From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 00:02:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E1316A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82E213C4A8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ir0I1-0001HI-H7 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:03:08 -0700 Received: from 71-220-154-82.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.154.82] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1Ir0I1-0001HA-CH for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:03:01 -0700 Message-ID: <47364678.7090205@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:02:00 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <47364131.5030405@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <47364131.5030405@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: PPD files vs printer drivers also LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:02:19 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > I am trying to understand little bit better Unix printing. I am > terribly confused about > the real meaning of PPD files and printer drivers. > > According to this > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description > > PPD files are post script description files that act as a drivers for > post script printers. This seems clear to me but I have never had a post > script printer in my life. > > > According to same page CUPS-PPD are used by CUPS to do post-script > printing on non-postscript printers by directing files through > CUPS-filter. Could somebody explain this things better to me. Every > time I used CUPS the PPD files where enough to enable me printing. > Did I really use some other drivers beside these PPD files or did CUPS > communicate with my printers with some generic driver and just > uses PPD files to do filtering. > > > In LPD it seems to me that this is more clear as when I run ./SETUP > apsfilter I am really question to select the driver from the > Ghostscript collection. I have never used LPD without the apsfilter. > > What is the simplest way to send ps file to the printer that doesn't > speak ps? If I could do that everything else is peace of cake. I read > very carefully printing form the handbook but I want to learn more. > > Could anybody explain me if there are some strong reasons for choosing > LPD over CUPS or LPRng system (seems just GUI added on the top of LPD) > It would logical to me that LPD is safer (CUPS port has some security > warnings) and maybe more reliable. In any case it is included in the > base system and I prefer to use something included in the base system > > > Thanks to ALL > Predrag > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" This seems http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/III.PostScript-and-PPDs/III.PostScript-and-PPDs.html like a good starting point for my questions. Any Adobe or CUPS developers around that can give me more information. What should I read? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 00:15:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8BD16A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:15:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273E113C4B6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:15:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAB0FCv8065667; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:15:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C876B8FC; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:15:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:15:12 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Predrag Punosevac Message-ID: <20071111001512.GA32312@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <47364131.5030405@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47364131.5030405@math.arizona.edu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPD files vs printer drivers also LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:15:23 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 04:39:29PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > I am trying to understand little bit better Unix printing. I am terribly= =20 > confused about > the real meaning of PPD files and printer drivers. >=20 > According to this=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description >=20 > PPD files are post script description files that act as a drivers for pos= t=20 > script printers. This seems clear to me but I have never had a post > script printer in my life. They are not really drivers but more files that describe the capabilities of the printer. =20 > According to same page CUPS-PPD are used by CUPS to do post-script printi= ng=20 > on non-postscript printers by directing files through > CUPS-filter. Could somebody explain this things better to me. Every time = I=20 > used CUPS the PPD files where enough to enable me printing. > Did I really use some other drivers beside these PPD files or did CUPS=20 > communicate with my printers with some generic driver and just > uses PPD files to do filtering. The latter. Cups uses the ghostscript program to translate postscript into something that the non-postscript printer can understand. =20 > What is the simplest way to send ps file to the printer that doesn't spea= k=20 > ps? If I could do that everything else is peace of cake. I read very=20 > carefully printing form the handbook but I want to learn more. Use ghostscript. This is what both apsfilter and cups do. They've just made it a lot easier than doing it yourself. And as you can see from the size of both cups and apsfilter 'everything else' is a substantial piece of cake. > Could anybody explain me if there are some strong reasons for choosing LP= D=20 > over CUPS or LPRng system (seems just GUI added on the top of LPD) > It would logical to me that LPD is safer (CUPS port has some security=20 > warnings) and maybe more reliable. In any case it is included in the base= =20 > system and I prefer to use something included in the base system In the past, lpd had a lot of security issues as well. I'm not sure if they're all solved. Both apsfilter and cups do more than standard lpd, which is only a printer spooler. Both cups and apsfilter look at what you're trying to print and try to convert it to a form suitable for printing. Standard lpr only understands a couple of ancient formats (ditroff, dvi, cif, plot) next to plain text. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHNkmQEnfvsMMhpyURAtLMAJ96G/DgzkiVcj3xaeBqrm+J8gEpMwCghYQ2 fChDNAW6L6porKyNRu0WbDE= =TIJJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 00:18:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76A216A41A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7740913C48A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:18:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAB0HtlM081595; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:17:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lAB0HtH4081592; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:17:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:17:55 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Predrag Punosevac In-Reply-To: <47364131.5030405@math.arizona.edu> Message-ID: <20071110165201.A81416@wonkity.com> References: <47364131.5030405@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:17:55 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPD files vs printer drivers also LPD vs LPRng vs CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:18:04 -0000 On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > I am trying to understand little bit better Unix printing. I am > terribly confused about the real meaning of PPD files and printer > drivers. > > According to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostScript_Printer_Description > > PPD files are post script description files that act as a drivers for post > script printers. PPDs are files that describe what a PostScript printer can do. They may have PostScript routines in them that can be used by a driver to take advantage of the printer's abilities. > According to same page CUPS-PPD are used by CUPS to do post-script > printing on non-postscript printers by directing files through > CUPS-filter. Could somebody explain this things better to me. Every > time I used CUPS the PPD files where enough to enable me printing. Did > I really use some other drivers beside these PPD files or did CUPS > communicate with my printers with some generic driver and just uses > PPD files to do filtering. Can't comment much on CUPS; I've never had the patience to work on it much. I prefer to have the responsibility to send correctly-formatted files to the printer myself, rather than have a filter system try to format things automatically. > What is the simplest way to send ps file to the printer that doesn't speak > ps? If I could do that everything else is peace of cake. Ghostscript is used to render a PostScript file into something the printer can handle. Ghostscript has a lot of built-in printer drivers. For example: /usr/local/bin/gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -q -sDEVICE=ljet4 -sOutputFile=- - That takes PostScript on stdin and converts to PCL on stdout. If you save that to /usr/local/libexec/ps2pcl and make it executable, you can use it as an input filter in a printcap entry. gs -h will show you a list of built-in printer drivers in Ghostscript. > Could anybody explain me if there are some strong reasons for choosing LPD > over CUPS or LPRng system (seems just GUI added on the top of LPD) > It would logical to me that LPD is safer (CUPS port has some security > warnings) and maybe more reliable. In any case it is included in the base > system and I prefer to use something included in the base system Printer filter systems have varying degrees of complexity and dependencies. lpd with simple filters is probably the simplest, with the lowest overhead because it's part of the base system. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 00:38:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D07E16A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC5813C4BD for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C487AD91E04 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:37:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.172.161] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Ir0pk-0007A0-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:37:52 +0100 Message-ID: <47365D0E.7000504@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:38:22 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002601c823d8$f80822d0$dedca8c0@dragon> <473640F5.6010506@web.de> In-Reply-To: <473640F5.6010506@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18VBBcHqRkP93/A46yR0BSH/+iM3fVqdIcIdvHN RkItdNRMDxajlS9uuYDb57MnBCdfX2LffOmmbGSHkQIyR5uBiG 0B6c1/HKw= Subject: linux firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:38:05 -0000 Dear FreeBSD folks, I have a weird problem: linux-firefox and linux-firefox-devel behave the same way. When I quit them, and try to restart them, they complain about beeing already running. I have to manually delete /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.prpfile/lock /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.profile/.parentlock to be able to start them again. Normal firefox and firefox-devel do not behave this way, but I want to be able to use the linux-flashplugin. Any hints? (Apart from writing a wrapper removing the lockfiles... How ugly) Regards, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 00:53:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF3316A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3829713C4B9 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080A3AC5F7E8; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:53:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.172.161] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Ir14X-0003Zr-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:53:09 +0100 Message-ID: <473660A4.9080501@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:53:40 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: icantthinkofone References: <4734D8B0.1060200@riderway.com> <4734DA4C.90702@riderway.com> <47351141.4090209@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <47351141.4090209@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18n3/6YMOp9925zX5wOw8VAhnyBsuL2+A9K3G/b dZAQ7ipRKitqMZ89C3mYvukvJEIEUlWlPQUKyyGfYQ05QoQinR RsKKAWypc= Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:53:22 -0000 icantthinkofone wrote: > Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >> Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >> >>> John wrote: >>> >>>> I've been struggling to get a handle on the FreeBSD system. Making >>>> good >>>> progress, but then I ran into the fact that Firefox on FreeBSD >>>> can't do >>>> flash. Definite showstopper, for me. Ok, then I tried to use the >>>> linuxpluginwrapper approach, and it didn't work. >>>> >>>> It made me recall, in reading up on FreeBSD, I did see where somebody >>>> installed both Firefox and Linx-firefox. >>>> >>>> So before I do battle with this Linux wrapper approach, I wondered >>>> if I >>>> would be better off simply installing the Linux-firefox? >>>> >>>> Is that easier? More likely to work? >>>> >>> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-07/msg01919.html >>> >>> >> ----> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc6 ; make install clean >> >> There is now: >> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7 ; make install clean >> which you should use instead -- its newer :) >> >> >> > btw, you don't need both native and Linux Firefox. Native Firefox an > do flash just fine. > _______________________________________________ Well, how can it? I cannot build linuxpluginwrapper, it alway fails saying: ===> linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_8 doesn't support ELF symbol versioning, yet.. *** Error code 1 I I am using RELENG_7 on i386. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 00:54:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A47C16A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237D013C4BB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8ADAC5F83C; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:53:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.172.161] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Ir15K-0000mn-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:53:59 +0100 Message-ID: <473660D5.9020700@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:54:29 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Philip M. Gollucci" References: <4734D8B0.1060200@riderway.com> In-Reply-To: <4734D8B0.1060200@riderway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/r4o8Cu6n3SKGqIoihjTA1hShPzK13uvA/nX8M H+X7Zl2M6OnlpPhYych1nPukwgaOiQkFULfJw1Fao5mga7nfU5 /jEACfQAI= Cc: John , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 00:54:17 -0000 Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > John wrote: > >> I've been struggling to get a handle on the FreeBSD system. Making good >> progress, but then I ran into the fact that Firefox on FreeBSD can't do >> flash. Definite showstopper, for me. Ok, then I tried to use the >> linuxpluginwrapper approach, and it didn't work. >> >> It made me recall, in reading up on FreeBSD, I did see where somebody >> installed both Firefox and Linx-firefox. >> >> So before I do battle with this Linux wrapper approach, I wondered if I >> would be better off simply installing the Linux-firefox? >> >> Is that easier? More likely to work? >> > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-07/msg01919.html > > That will work just fine using flash7. When you need flash9, thats a > different story. > > works on 6.2, 6.3, 7.0-current, 7.0-betaX, and 8.0-current. > > > Flash 9 alway causes segfault when displaying flash movie in my linux-firefox. So what am I doing wrong. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 01:00:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C9016A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:00:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B0313C4BB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAB10Ndr014672; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:00:23 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAB10MuQ014671; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:00:22 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:00:22 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071111010022.GA99978@darklight.org.ru> References: <4734D8B0.1060200@riderway.com> <4734DA4C.90702@riderway.com> <47351141.4090209@charter.net> <473660A4.9080501@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473660A4.9080501@web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , icantthinkofone Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:00:29 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:53:40AM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > icantthinkofone wrote: >> Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >>> Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >>> >>>> John wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been struggling to get a handle on the FreeBSD system. Making >>>>> good >>>>> progress, but then I ran into the fact that Firefox on FreeBSD can't do >>>>> flash. Definite showstopper, for me. Ok, then I tried to use the >>>>> linuxpluginwrapper approach, and it didn't work. >>>>> >>>>> It made me recall, in reading up on FreeBSD, I did see where somebody >>>>> installed both Firefox and Linx-firefox. >>>>> >>>>> So before I do battle with this Linux wrapper approach, I wondered if I >>>>> would be better off simply installing the Linux-firefox? >>>>> >>>>> Is that easier? More likely to work? >>>>> >>>> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-07/msg01919.html >>>> >>> ----> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc6 ; make install clean >>> >>> There is now: >>> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7 ; make install clean >>> which you should use instead -- its newer :) >>> >>> >>> >> btw, you don't need both native and Linux Firefox. Native Firefox an do >> flash just fine. >> _______________________________________________ > Well, how can it? I cannot build linuxpluginwrapper, it alway fails saying: > ===> linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_8 doesn't support ELF symbol versioning, > yet.. > *** Error code 1 > I > I am using RELENG_7 on i386. Use www/nspluginwrapper. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 01:38:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F10516A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC1213C48E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAB1cW9d081932; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:38:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lAB1cW5s081929; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:38:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:38:32 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jerahmy Pocott In-Reply-To: <207315CA-A46D-4715-8EFD-A0E425FC7465@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20071110181853.L81849@wonkity.com> References: <207315CA-A46D-4715-8EFD-A0E425FC7465@optusnet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:38:32 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: USB Console? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:38:56 -0000 On Sat, 10 Nov 2007, Jerahmy Pocott wrote: > I was wondering if there is any way to put the console on a USB port? > Since serial and parallel ports are becoming things of the past and > many systems don't come with them any more.. > > Serial console on USB? The boot console? Probably not. Logging in to a booted system should work. I actually just got a PL2303 USB-to-serial adapter: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16812149115 It shows up when the uplcom module is loaded. ucom creates /dev/cuaU0, which could be entered in /etc/ttys. (Rule #1 of serial: no matter how many cables and adapters you have, none will be correct and you will eventually have to buy or build one. That's why I haven't tested this yet.) -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 02:20:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB4616A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA5813C4A5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 24971 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 02:20:05 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Nov 2007 02:20:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4736669F.5010408@chuckr.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:19:11 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ps options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:20:14 -0000 I have spent all the time I can stand, going over the ps man page, but I can't see any option to get a hierarchical listing. I mean, where the listings are sorted to where parents come before children, and the children get indentation, so you can see at a glance what's running more easily. It's a standard thing on many OSes, and I was sorta hoping it'd be available on FreeBSD. Maybe under a different name? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 02:23:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D0B16A58F for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girish1729@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C3F13C4B3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:23:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girish1729@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so766877rvb for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:23:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; bh=l28cdBuhZfWMpJc6JW7GETpB8XPC9foirDXOvYOq03s=; b=gjS/g/VO2gQSUdeKOti8n8kxGCJVMv2zRRIzeLzYuXQ2KZBDXyjEnCyZh+b6WNb8mktu2EH0A89Quo5ypf5cHIaEewoVw564DvFcDhhR95nfiq7osisl+csNGToLaw2qexHQdZ3sQmCx37mjvYhm4eSs9obS/ZSXk/gRROXx0kE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; b=km44yRnkhzYL5DgEbYS3zO/4mzHPPdY9ZeS3Ldt11pa+2gOo9iB/3Jck5/DzOaIbiVFSNLK3oKE5fRtEqxajvwkNCiHAPDcX9Ws6MKz9CnHdHmfaf8T+vXOpbgMq0P3G9Dkhy+URu88h/ewkj/hnhPcZZ0V8Xpy5EYPnJQ1eYw8= Received: by 10.141.136.19 with SMTP id o19mr1727230rvn.1194746312604; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.32.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l21sm6599356rvb.2007.11.10.17.58.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 5F073143E7; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:28:23 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:28:23 +0530 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111015823.GE6698@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <846921.73269.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <846921.73269.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 From: Girish Venkatachalam Subject: Re: ' Openssl.cnf ' and ' .rand ' file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:23:41 -0000 On 11:22:10 Nov 10, White Hat wrote: > openssl 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 > > I have not been able to find an answer to this question on Google, so I figured I had better ask it here. > > In the '/etc/ssl/openssl.cnf' file, there is an entry for: > > RANDFILE = $dir/private/.rand # private random number file > > Well, that file does not exist. I cannot find it anywhere on my system and I have not been able to figure out how to create it. > > Also, where could I locate some information on the 'openssl.cnf' file. There does not appear to be a 'man' page for it. I would like some more information on what all of the settings mean and possibly how to set them for my particular needs. Why do you want it? You can use the openssl rand command for doing what you may be wanting to do. $ openssl rand 10000 if you want binary output of length 10000 bytes or you can use the -base64 switch for ASCII output. (You don't need the RANDFILE which is probably a seed or something) Most parts of OpenSSL are not documented properly and the source code is immensely hard to follow. I have worked with the guts of OpenSSL long ago and in spite of working with it for a long time, I have always found it hard to follow what happens where. :) The code is one of the most intricate uses of the wonderful C language. :) Enjoy the fun! :) Thanks. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 02:30:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0553216A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2CE13C4A3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 497 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 02:30:30 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Nov 2007 02:30:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4736690F.9090207@chuckr.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:29:35 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <4734D8B0.1060200@riderway.com> <4734DA4C.90702@riderway.com> <89073692@srv.sem.ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <89073692@srv.sem.ipt.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John , "Philip M. Gollucci" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:30:43 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:08:12 -0500 Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >> Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >>> John wrote: >>>> I've been struggling to get a handle on the FreeBSD system. Making good >>>> progress, but then I ran into the fact that Firefox on FreeBSD can't do >>>> flash. Definite showstopper, for me. Ok, then I tried to use the >>>> linuxpluginwrapper approach, and it didn't work. >>>> >>>> It made me recall, in reading up on FreeBSD, I did see where somebody >>>> installed both Firefox and Linx-firefox. >>>> >>>> So before I do battle with this Linux wrapper approach, I wondered if I >>>> would be better off simply installing the Linux-firefox? >>>> >>>> Is that easier? More likely to work? >>> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-07/msg01919.html >> ----> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc6 ; make install clean > >> There is now: >> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7 ; make install clean >> which you should use instead -- its newer :) Wow, what great timing, I was just starting to look about for a browser to give me flash. Let me ask this again, both for my own use, and for those folks (like me) who have googled this without success so far: if I wanted, as far as possible, to stay with FreeBSD-native apps (but willing to do whatever it takes, IF its the only way to success) how does someone get to having a browser run on FreeBSD, with the main requirement, that it run Flash. Oh. One more qualification (I can get a bit picky, I guess). I notice that there's a port for flashplugin9, not just 7. Is there ANY setup that allows flash9, not just flash7? The only limitation I keep active is, I don't run MS software. No Windows. I suppose, if it's the best way, I could even choose Wine (does this make me a Wino?) 'Preciate this, I'm anxious to get started. If I'm forced to it, I have a great amount of disk, I would give as much disk as it needs, to get this, I just need to overcome old prejudices over using too much disk. I guess I can't get used to having gigabytes, not megabytes, to play with. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 02:42:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C6516A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:42:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05D213C4A6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:42:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 4767 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 02:42:38 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Nov 2007 02:42:38 -0000 Message-ID: <47366BE7.1000202@chuckr.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:41:43 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Reko Turja References: <473570FC.7070002@szalbot.homedns.org> <014b01c8237f$3951a590$0a0aa8c0@rivendell> In-Reply-To: <014b01c8237f$3951a590$0a0aa8c0@rivendell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zbigniew szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups-base problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:42:52 -0000 Reko Turja wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Today I saw a security notice: > > ..snip... > >> cat distinfo >> MD5 (cups-1.3.3-source.tar.bz2) = d4911e68b6979d16bc7a55f68d16cc53 >> SHA256 (cups-1.3.3-source.tar.bz2) = >> 5e9e5670777055293e309cb0cbb2758df9c1275bf648df70478b7389c2d804de >> SIZE (cups-1.3.3-source.tar.bz2) = 4077262 > > Update your ports and INDEX file as it seems that you are installing a > vulnerable version of cups-base. The VuXML report says: > > Affects: > cups-base <1.3.4 > > so the cups-1.3.3 still has the vulnerability mentioned in the report. Actually, I think the worst security problem I've seen is one I don't personally care to fix right now, but I guess I will soon. It's the fact that postscript is actually a language, one that's more general purpose in limitations than many people realize. Isn't that true? I think this means that my postscript interpreter (which is, for me, and I think for most, is ghostscript) should have some security controls on it, to limit postscript's direct access to local machine capabilities. I think that the options in gs for security are too little. It'd be pretty easy to write a really nasty worm. I remember laughing at my Windows friends, back when that Philappines worm hit, but we could get pretty easily hit on gs, or am I all wet? I don't much like pdf, but at least its not succeptible to such a thing, because pdf's not a general purpose language (not a language at all). Nobody's take advantage of it, but it'd be possible to write a general purpose docbook interpreter entirely in postscript. Wonder if modern gs limitations would allow such a big program? Sure would be convenient. > -Rek > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 02:59:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8A116A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D3413C4A7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 14282 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 02:59:17 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Nov 2007 02:59:17 -0000 Message-ID: <47366FCF.7060903@chuckr.org> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:58:23 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <846921.73269.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20071111015823.GE6698@saraswathy.susmita.org> In-Reply-To: <20071111015823.GE6698@saraswathy.susmita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ' Openssl.cnf ' and ' .rand ' file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:59:31 -0000 Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 11:22:10 Nov 10, White Hat wrote: >> openssl 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 >> >> I have not been able to find an answer to this question on Google, so I figured I had better ask it here. >> >> In the '/etc/ssl/openssl.cnf' file, there is an entry for: >> >> RANDFILE = $dir/private/.rand # private random number file >> >> Well, that file does not exist. I cannot find it anywhere on my system and I have not been able to figure out how to create it. >> >> Also, where could I locate some information on the 'openssl.cnf' file. There does not appear to be a 'man' page for it. I would like some more information on what all of the settings mean and possibly how to set them for my particular needs. > > Why do you want it? > > You can use the openssl rand command for doing what you may be wanting > to do. > > $ openssl rand 10000 > > if you want binary output of length 10000 bytes or you can use the > -base64 switch for ASCII output. > > (You don't need the RANDFILE which is probably a seed or something) > > Most parts of OpenSSL are not documented properly and the source code is > immensely hard to follow. > > I have worked with the guts of OpenSSL long ago and in spite of working > with it for a long time, I have always found it hard to follow what > happens where. :) Well, that's a bit of a personal opinion, but have you even used the sclient and sserver functions of the openssl command? Damn, but that's a fantastic debugging tool! Nicely documented in the openssl man page, too. > > The code is one of the most intricate uses of the wonderful C language. > :) > > Enjoy the fun! :) > > Thanks. > > regards, > Girish > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 03:46:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7704C16A46B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E64113C4B8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) id lAB3jxLc072964; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:45:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:45:59 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20071111034559.GE72824@dan.emsphone.com> References: <4736669F.5010408@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4736669F.5010408@chuckr.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: ps options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:46:38 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 10), Chuck Robey said: > I have spent all the time I can stand, going over the ps man page, but I > can't see any option to get a hierarchical listing. I mean, where the > listings are sorted to where parents come before children, and the children > get indentation, so you can see at a glance what's running more easily. > It's a standard thing on many OSes, and I was sorta hoping it'd be > available on FreeBSD. Maybe under a different name? It's usually a separate command (ptree on Solaris for example). Try the sysutils/pstree port. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 03:52:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9658916A46C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail.networktest.com (mail.networktest.com [207.181.8.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C7413C4A6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:52:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: by mail.networktest.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6014E78C4B; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:10 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.networktest.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from lion.local (cpe-75-82-195-55.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.195.55]) by mail.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB4878C4E for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:22:06 -0800 From: David Newman Organization: Network Test Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:52:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'd welcome suggestions on how (or whether) to try to revive a SCSI drive that's failing. This is on FreeBSD 6.2-RELENG on a Compaq Proliant DL320, onboard RAID and two SCSI drives in a RAID1 array. Today this system rebooted and hung on Compaq's "what do you want the RAID controller to do?" message. I told it to fix any errors. When I brought the system back up (after running fsck in single-user mode), the log had lots of errors like this: Nov 10 09:00:40 mail kernel: ida0: hard write error Nov 10 09:00:40 mail kernel: ida0: invalid request Nov 10 09:01:48 mail last message repeated 35 times Nov 10 09:03:49 mail last message repeated 571 times Nov 10 09:12:27 mail last message repeated 796 times I vaguely remember trying about a year ago to load a SMART utility from the ports collection but it wouldn't work on drives in a RAID array. Is there some other way to: a) diagnose/fix the errant disk here? b) monitor the health of disks on a Compaq controller so it doesn't get to this point to begin with? thanks in advance dn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHNlk+yPxGVjntI4IRAntlAJ9FWA2ez+BdnViq7mrIpkLBTLm/CgCfRyEA czDvMn6+8KjlI3V0iBG4U3I= =36+k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 04:57:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B14A16A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from futuristick@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E2713C494 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from futuristick@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so559284pyb for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 20:57:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.61.5 with SMTP id o5mr10674143qbk.1194747608137; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.101? ( [24.18.73.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f15sm2766640qba.2007.11.10.18.20.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:20:06 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4D07F1BA-F6C2-473F-89C6-E760FD770313@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: futuristick Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:20:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: apache13-modperl problem: mod_dir, mod_mime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:57:42 -0000 Hello, I have installed apache13-modperl from ports because I want to run a simple photoblog. However, there was no 'make config' option for modules, and here is the output of httpd -l: Compiled-in modules: http_core.c mod_so.c mod_perl.c suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/sbin/suexec I don't understand why mod_dir and mod_mime aren't installed by default. How can I serve pages without these? How can I get these modules installed? (I don't know where, if any, the .so files might be). Thanks, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 05:09:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B42F16A421 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7013C4BB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so431925wra for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:09:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=i8kOVULtKa93XexVkYD6ZVGUHJ0NqroHLoIG5L0hED0=; b=oKsmITBHEQNEOteDRH0iZ/+xAjy3lLqj+Bu3D59o1FkDBmUlqghR5bWyEVRxTMdedyFA7cTy1euwWCMOd2R6YWtNW9e1otRdLlCwME5mEzxrPnYV8V1uJKU4hZiwEPDMGZQkij/UxQeyvs0g6M+HR7KLSotkJbgNMs6F9rcGS6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mQjIJlMtBpPzaLDuIICEbnQKYJegGEFAUttU9GV3bsGUiE6PvTsiTXt/9VNVxYOGzltOn7ZdmV4yAMdPTbu7KZd7bmd9uS75B/1r9NXS00SqdsskY9HUrxtZC4oRXP7TAv14UpQX0Y5KPfi8jMoxUKSfRKnJNJq7yXq1WI98Gck= Received: by 10.70.48.2 with SMTP id v2mr4236234wxv.1194757788733; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:09:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:09:48 -0700 From: Modulok To: "David Newman" In-Reply-To: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:09:57 -0000 >> I'd welcome suggestions on how (or whether) to try to revive a SCSI drive that's failing. It depends on how valuable the data on the array is, and more importantly, how much funding you have at your disposal to fix the problem. If it were me, I would set aside the bad disk, connect a new disk to the card and re-synchronize the array. (Assuming one of the members still retains a good copy of the data.) Afterwards I would destroy, or toss the existing disk in the trash can (depending on the sensitivity of the data stored on it.) >> Is there some other way to: >> b)monitor the health of disks on a Compaq controller so it doesn't get to this point to begin with? There are various tools out there that attempt to 'monitor' the condition of disk drives to try and predict when failure is eminent. For valuable data, it is safer to setup a mirror and simply toss out bad disks as they fail. For extremely valuable data use a 3 disk array. With a 3 disk setup you will still be covered in the event that an additional disk craps out during the re-sync. To quote google's article on disk failure, regarding SMART: "...we find that failure prediction models based on SMART parameters alone are likely to be severely limited in the prediction accuracy, given that a large fraction of our failed drives have shown on SMART error signals whatsoever. This result suggests that SMART models are more useful in predicting trends for large aggregate populations that for individual components." http://labs.google.com/papers/disk_failures.pdf My 2 cents. -Modulok- On 11/10/07, David Newman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd welcome suggestions on how (or whether) to try to revive a SCSI > drive that's failing. > > This is on FreeBSD 6.2-RELENG on a Compaq Proliant DL320, onboard RAID > and two SCSI drives in a RAID1 array. > > Today this system rebooted and hung on Compaq's "what do you want the > RAID controller to do?" message. I told it to fix any errors. > > When I brought the system back up (after running fsck in single-user > mode), the log had lots of errors like this: > > Nov 10 09:00:40 mail kernel: ida0: hard write error > Nov 10 09:00:40 mail kernel: ida0: invalid request > Nov 10 09:01:48 mail last message repeated 35 times > Nov 10 09:03:49 mail last message repeated 571 times > Nov 10 09:12:27 mail last message repeated 796 times > > I vaguely remember trying about a year ago to load a SMART utility from > the ports collection but it wouldn't work on drives in a RAID array. > > Is there some other way to: > > a) diagnose/fix the errant disk here? > b) monitor the health of disks on a Compaq controller so it doesn't get > to this point to begin with? > > thanks in advance > > dn > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFHNlk+yPxGVjntI4IRAntlAJ9FWA2ez+BdnViq7mrIpkLBTLm/CgCfRyEA > czDvMn6+8KjlI3V0iBG4U3I= > =36+k > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 05:10:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D781316A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84C713C4B8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BED8508B2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:04 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HuFshAhtl+K2 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 527A1508AB; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20071111051002.527A1508AB@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2007-10-21 - 2007-11-10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:10:20 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 06:06:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA18B16A420 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF1E13C4AA for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:06:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id RAA08807; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:05:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:05:23 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Christopher Key In-Reply-To: <20071109204413.562EB16A547@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Looking for some inpiration with UPS setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:06:22 -0000 On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:33:34 +0000 Christopher Key wrote: > I've a FreeBSD fileserver, a solid state router (Linksys box running > OpenWRT) and a couple of gigabit switches that I'd like to move onto a > UPS (I'm primarily looking at the APC Smart-UPS line). > > The requirements for the FreeBSD system are pretty simple, it's not > likely to be of any use if the power's out, so after a few minutes to > allow any files open over the network to be saved, it should perform an > orderly shutdown and remain off until the power returns. However, the > router is a little different. It maintains some state information in > RAM (dhcp leases etc) that I'd prefer not to lose during a short power > outage, and it would also be useful to retain internet access, so > ideally I'd like the router and switches to stay up for as long as the > battery lasts in the UPS. > > Space and budget are limited, so ideally I'd like to achieve all this > with a single UPS, which is where the problems arise. As I understant > it, when the UPS wants to wake the attached machines up, it power cycles > its output. This however will reset the router, which was what I was > hoping to avoid. Looking at the relative power requirements, I suspect your Linksys WRT box would likely draw 12W max and perhaps a good deal less (check its specs or measure it) whereas your server + switches might draw 10 times that, even without a monitor staying on. (P-166 or 3GHz quad-core? :) Given you're using a main UPS that needs to cycle power to restart your server (presumably powered off by 'shutdown -p +1 message for syslog' ONO after several minutes running on UPS battery) then using a tiny UPS to run your router separately makes good sense. Have a look at, for example, http://phk.freebsd.dk/soekris/ups/ which supplies 12V for a Soekris 4501/4801 but could easily be adapted if the Linksys isn't happy with 12VDC input. A 12Ah SLA battery could run the Soekris at 6W (.5A) for maybe 20 hrs. The 250/12VAC transformer needed is likely in a nearby junkbox as a plugpak for some external modem, or you could use many 12-15VDC @1A unregulated supplies, which include the transformer and the first rectifier .. even more old modems used these. Meanwhile your larger (3-500VA?) UPS can look after your server etc. > I've thought around the problem for some time, but not come up with any > convincing solutions: > > 1) Use some sort of WOL command from the router to the FreeBSD system > rather than having the UPS power cycle its output. How does the router > know the power's returned? Can the UPS be set not to power cycle its > power output when the power returns? No idea about the former, and I don't know if OpenWRT could be made to listen to the UPS and act on it - anything's possible I guess - but if the UPS is still running when power returns, it has to cycle power to wakeup the server somehow, or you need some sort of external swiching. > 2) Use a second cheap UPS to 'protect' the router whilst the primary UPS > cycles its power output. This seems rather crude, and would presumably > reduce the battery life of the primary UPS due the losses in the second UPS. As above .. if the second UPS is small, it will be relatively efficient for its load, and can be run from the mains rather than the primary UPS. Anything bigger than 12Ah (or even 7Ah) for the router UPS is overkill, and it's more efficient to run the router on DC than its plugpak anyway. > 3) Have the UPS wake the PC via some other means. USB would seem to > ideal choice, but the motherboard won't do a wake on USB from S5, and > I'm can't find a UPS with an ethernet interface. Some older laptops, at least, were reputed to do wake-on-serial input, but I'm not sure if that would work with (serial) UPS wiring or not. > 4) KISS. Buy two smaller, cheapers UPS units. Or buy one, get one (nearly) free from the junkbox and a few bits from the local electronics store. Coopt a friendly engineering student if you're wary about the bit of soldering or choosing components. Generally: don't shutdown your server too soon .. I don't know about your situation, but here at least most blackouts, brownouts and surges last just a few seconds, sometimes short enough to reset server A while server B sails through, but outages more than a few minutes are much rarer (and are then likely to last perhaps hours). Sometimes power will come back for a few seconds then quit again, and you don't want too much stop/start, so if you can persuade your UPS to wait for a minute or so of good power before cycling its output back on, so much the safer. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 07:04:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4F216A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from mail.barafranca.com (mail.barafranca.com [67.19.101.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC84413C49D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:04:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hugo@barafranca.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3889C382E; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.barafranca.com ([67.19.101.164]) by localhost (mail.barafranca.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18285-03; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:39:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nexus.bsdlan.org (a213-22-17-158.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.17.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.barafranca.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F354C3824; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <473678D1.30906@barafranca.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:36:49 +0000 From: Hugo Silva User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070816) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4736669F.5010408@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4736669F.5010408@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at barafranca.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=0 tagged_above=-1 required=4 tests=[none] X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Spam-Level: Cc: Subject: Re: ps options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:04:34 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > I have spent all the time I can stand, going over the ps man page, but > I can't see any option to get a hierarchical listing. I mean, where > the listings are sorted to where parents come before children, and the > children get indentation, so you can see at a glance what's running > more easily. It's a standard thing on many OSes, and I was sorta > hoping it'd be available on FreeBSD. Maybe under a different name? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" See pstree (ports). Regards, Hugo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 07:44:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E19316A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69C613C4A8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAB7hbQk075116; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:43:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7249BB8FC; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:43:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:43:37 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20071111074337.GA44178@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Chuck Robey , Reko Turja , zbigniew szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <473570FC.7070002@szalbot.homedns.org> <014b01c8237f$3951a590$0a0aa8c0@rivendell> <47366BE7.1000202@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47366BE7.1000202@chuckr.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Reko Turja , zbigniew szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups-base problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:44:14 -0000 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:41:43PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > Reko Turja wrote: >>> Dear all, >>>=20 >>> Today I saw a security notice: >> ..snip... >>> cat distinfo >>> MD5 (cups-1.3.3-source.tar.bz2) =3D d4911e68b6979d16bc7a55f68d16cc53 >>> SHA256 (cups-1.3.3-source.tar.bz2) =3D=20 >>> 5e9e5670777055293e309cb0cbb2758df9c1275bf648df70478b7389c2d804de >>> SIZE (cups-1.3.3-source.tar.bz2) =3D 4077262 >> Update your ports and INDEX file as it seems that you are installing a= =20 >> vulnerable version of cups-base. The VuXML report says: >> Affects: >> cups-base <1.3.4 >> so the cups-1.3.3 still has the vulnerability mentioned in the report. >=20 > Actually, I think the worst security problem I've seen is one I don't=20 > personally care to fix right now, but I guess I will soon. It's the fact= =20 > that postscript is actually a language, one that's more general purpose i= n=20 > limitations than many people realize. Isn't that true? I think this mea= ns=20 > that my postscript interpreter (which is, for me, and I think for most, i= s=20 > ghostscript) should have some security controls on it, to limit=20 > postscript's direct access to local machine capabilities. When using ghostscript you should always call it with the -dSAFER option, so it can only open files read-only. Or you could buy a postscript capable printer. > I think that the options in gs for security are too little. It'd be pret= ty=20 > easy to write a really nasty worm. I remember laughing at my Windows=20 > friends, back when that Philappines worm hit, but we could get pretty=20 > easily hit on gs, or am I all wet? It's not as easy as it seems. It would be possible to write a postscript program that mails itself to other addresses. But no UNIX mail client that I know of automatically opens and renders postscript code, let alone with root privileges, which you need to do _real_ damage instead of just annoy people. So you'd need user intervention to spread the virus. And gathering addresses isn't straightforward either. Every mail program has it's own file for storing those. And there are usually multiple places where mail can be stored, and that can be in at least two formats (mbox and maildir). Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHNrKpEnfvsMMhpyURAugFAJ4ugtiimblm5vO8TbDWjYUs3Buh2wCdH1GX ZQ8AIlLJGfn64exoCW0LbTQ= =KbrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 08:13:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0DF16A51D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5637913C4A6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAB8D6q4039910 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:13:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lAB8D6Wj039907 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:13:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:13:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111090825.N39877@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: what's wrong with rtadvd?! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:13:29 -0000 on 3 machines - works fine. on one - doesn't tcpdump -i em0 -n ip6 shows nothing transmitted ifconfig em0 shows em0: flags=88843 mtu 1500 options=4b inet6 fe80::21b:21ff:fe00:9e16%em0 prefixlen 64 duplicated scopeid 0x1 inet 10.254.1.248 netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 10.254.3.255 inet 10.254.1.232 netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 10.254.3.255 inet6 xxxxxxx::2 prefixlen 64 inet6 xxxxxxx::3 prefixlen 64 inet6 xxxxxxx::4 prefixlen 64 ether 00:1b:21:00:9e:16 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active in rc.conf rtadvd_enable="YES" rtadvd_interfaces="em0" when rtadvd is started, stopped or sometimes in between there are such things in log: rtadvd[68450]: sendmsg on em0: Network is down where's a problem? thanks. PS. no - firewall doesn't block it, i checked and tried with ipfw turned off too. 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Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: from izb.knu.ac.kr (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f05:d6:3::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF2213C4A3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:47:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bh@izb.knu.ac.kr) Received: by pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr (Postfix, from userid 10001) id C589D3EC7; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:47:38 +0900 (KST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:47:38 +0900 From: Byung-Hee HWANG To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111084738.GA4680@pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr> References: <1194710542.8388.1.camel@jihad.izb.knu.ac.kr> <20071110172703.GB89498@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <1194717052.873.9.camel@jihad.izb.knu.ac.kr> <20071110221853.GA34092@pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071110221853.GA34092@pinus.izb.knu.ac.kr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: InZealBomb Cc: Subject: my applogy X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:47:42 -0000 dear all, some time before, i did big mistake against for good contributer of freebsd project. i am very sorry to that man. you know, that man is not a spammer, and that man is rather good contributer. so now i applogy to that man, with my all indeed.. and from now on, i will take care of myself so that i never do that such big mistake.. and i want that man to help freebsd project.. i want that man to cheer up again for freebsd project.. i totally trust that man from .tr now respect, bh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 09:10:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A556B16A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272CD13C48E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAB9A9DU063279; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:10 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4736C6F1.4030308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:09 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: futuristick References: <4D07F1BA-F6C2-473F-89C6-E760FD770313@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D07F1BA-F6C2-473F-89C6-E760FD770313@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4746/Sat Nov 10 23:11:53 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache13-modperl problem: mod_dir, mod_mime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:10:16 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 futuristick wrote: > I have installed apache13-modperl from ports because I want to run a > simple photoblog. However, there was no 'make config' option for > modules, and here is the output of httpd -l: > > Compiled-in modules: > http_core.c > mod_so.c > mod_perl.c > suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/sbin/suexec > > I don't understand why mod_dir and mod_mime aren't installed by default. > How can I serve pages without these? How can I get these modules > installed? (I don't know where, if any, the .so files might be). Not having an OPTIONS dialog is just a symptom of the age of the port and that the possibility of implementing such a thing has not yet risen to the top of the maintainer's TODO list. OPTIONS are not mandatory in the ports system -- you can still use the original and in some circumstances superior method of defining compilation flags on the command line or (more usefully) in /etc/make.conf However, the only way to find out what flags are available is by looking at what the Makefile provides. In the case of apache13-modssl the Makefile is really rather complex, but the maintainer has provided some handy documentation of what can be tweaked: % cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl % make pre-fetch As it transpires, the apache13-modssl port doesn't give you a huge amount of flexibility as to how the module load is configured. There are about 4 -- 5 optional modules you can enable or disable completely, most of which I doubt you'll have any need for, although suexec is possibly an exception that you may want. Otherwise you get the default setup from the Apache configuration system as invoked with the following flags: --enable-module=most \ --enable-module=auth_db \ --enable-module=mmap_static \ --disable-module=auth_dbm \ --enable-shared=max \ --enable-module=ssl \ --enable-module=define \ That is, everything standard except experimental modules and auth_dbm is enabled, plus auth_db, mmap_static and ssl. Modules are configured as loadable modules rather than compiled in. That gives you maximum flexibility and maximum control over how large your apache processes will grow but adds a layer of indirection to various pointer lookups which will add a few percent to the time it takes to serve a page. Unless you're trying to run your server at the absolute max, that is almost definitely the correct choice. mod_dir and mod_mime are certainly installed and available as part of the default package. Look in /usr/local/etc/libexec/apache to find the loadable modules themselves. Look at the 'LoadModule' lines in /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf to see what is being loaded at runtime - -- the default is to load everything available. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHNsbx8Mjk52CukIwRCEzAAKCU8GVX/gj1eoqi4VAnJtZlj+Pp4wCfccLi sch16WtyVVoq0bmrcQRBoJA= =eX9t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 11:02:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0859D16A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46CA13C4C5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so822041rvb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:02:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yVRIJZCxNaeSPD4JvRHWlcoOadyQUdWrczs3riLPIDM=; b=FK7iO2Ku5BCZp3ku9iHiMqR7Fij9dHpwhIuwY2yrYQQBR3Hwmx9t9ScI3E+1M966t3GGwrZEWIo5Rte8oCNsyAPIZF6jZ3tTxPuBZdbmYCdT2KBxOlPKQXvYlOAEIRCOQ3dV6+tstS/94Z3+Py71V+Uc8jAl36uIbGhBhZxL7gU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GhlIvrnOIGHqqxQOVRu+a4QHmpF/z0sQNKfPyv0UmaeZWAjm91gK/gL2NVDYegm00swOL+Jb5PzSnbfGgyklU+W2F+i8R6QNVpmWIaR6HGWlS9ElKxFG9Tqbpf/0eFL8JxHfMhwHhVc/+/j6g/IPU9My6rcVhESTHzhTAGVHHjw= Received: by 10.142.191.2 with SMTP id o2mr28478wff.1194777449313; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.104.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:37:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <31fbaca90711110237s539eb14at85d7e5a8c172f0f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:37:29 +0100 From: "Riccardo Giuntoli" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:02:19 -0000 Hi there, i use proftpd as my ftp solution in other three production servers with no problem. Last week we buy out fourth server, and i started to install and configure FreeBSD as usual. After upgrade the sources and the ports i've got: [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(106): uname -a FreeBSD tsunami.chroot.eu 6.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Nov 9 12:15:54 EST 2007 taglio@tsunami.chroot.eu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TSUNAMI i386 [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(107): And i've installed proftpd: [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(107): proftpd -v - ProFTPD Version 1.3.1 [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(108): For an initial simple configuration with no vhosts i've edited /usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf like this: [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(110): cat proftpd.conf ServerName "Chroot tsunami hosting" ServerType standalone DefaultServer on ScoreboardFile /var/run/proftpd.scoreboard Port 21 Umask 022 MaxInstances 30 User nobody Group nogroup DefaultRoot ~/www AllowOverwrite on DenyAll TimeoutIdle 0 TimeoutLinger 0 TimeoutLogin 0 TimeoutNoTransfer 0 TimeoutSession 0 TimeoutStalled 0 [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(111): and in /etc/pam.d/ftpd i've got this: [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(111): cat /etc/pam.d/ftpd ftpd auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass ftpd account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass ftpd session required pam_permit.so [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(112): After checking syntax and have started the proftpd daemon i've got this problem : [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(112): ftp localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.chroot.eu. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection. ftp> That i've got also on external interfaces. Can someone help me with some ideas? Thank you in advance, best regards, Riccardo Giuntoli -- Name: Riccardo Giuntoli Email: taglio@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.luxoro.org/ Location: Genova, Italy PGP Key: 0x67123739 PGP Fingerprint: CE75 16B5 D855 842FAB54 FB5C DDC6 4640 6712 3739 Key server: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 11:17:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C9C16A421 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:17:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Michel.Lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr (mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.163.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121F413C4F0 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:17:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Michel.Lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from [192.168.66.33] (bdv75-2-81-57-250-158.fbx.proxad.net [81.57.250.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) by mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr (sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id 888EF22E57 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:59:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:59:12 +0100 From: Le Cocq Michel User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071008) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:17:44 -0000 Hello all, I know the question has been ask many times, but I don't understand why some times if I build a port with make install and then remove it with pkg_delete and make clean && make clean-depends I can't obtain again the configuration screen even if i use make configure ... !!!??? Thanks Michel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 11:28:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0615116A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:28:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694D413C49D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lABBSOvj064129; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:28:26 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:28:24 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Le Cocq Michel References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> In-Reply-To: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:28:26 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4747/Sun Nov 11 08:51:21 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:28:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Le Cocq Michel wrote: > Hello all, I know the question has been ask many times, but I don't > understand why some times if I build a port with make install and then > remove it with pkg_delete and make clean && make clean-depends I can't > obtain again the configuration screen even if i use make configure ... > !!!??? That's because you need to do: make config which has a very different effect to 'make configure.' Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHNudY8Mjk52CukIwRCPDhAJ9wQVrDxA3w7HLrc9MPUwos+8iOSwCfYfki t6V06lJWMwirWccBo0wjy0k= =tndh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 11:33:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C209E16A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Michel.Lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr (mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.163.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8985B13C48D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:33:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Michel.Lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from [192.168.66.34] (bdv75-2-81-57-250-158.fbx.proxad.net [81.57.250.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) by mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr (sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id 162D722E57; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:32:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736E8B7.400@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:34:15 +0100 From: Le Cocq Michel User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071009) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:33:05 -0000 Matthew Seaman a écrit : > > That's because you need to do: > > make config > > which has a very different effect to 'make configure.' > > Matthew > can you explain the != ? thanks Michel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 11:40:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D09F16A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:40:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C9DA13C49D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 11 Nov 2007 11:39:38 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp033) with SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 12:39:38 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+9W3lwoS29k1qVIhp6WoiPgR9GNrDZ+aFsXfAguc QILUKcxh8aQbpR Message-ID: <4736E9F8.7090107@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:39:36 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Le Cocq Michel References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4736E8B7.400@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> In-Reply-To: <4736E8B7.400@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:40:05 -0000 Le Cocq Michel wrote: > Matthew Seaman a écrit : >> That's because you need to do: >> >> make config >> >> which has a very different effect to 'make configure.' >> >> Matthew >> > > can you explain the != ? > > thanks > > Michel make configure runs the configure build stage if the port has one. make config calls the config dialogue From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 12:02:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2C016A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Michel.Lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr (mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr [194.254.163.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E5D13C4AA for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Michel.Lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) Received: from [192.168.66.34] (bdv75-2-81-57-250-158.fbx.proxad.net [81.57.250.158]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lecocq@lipn.univ-paris13.fr) by mail.lipn.univ-paris13.fr (sendmail 8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DE7DD22E59; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:02:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4736EF8F.60708@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:03:27 +0100 From: Le Cocq Michel User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071009) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4736E8B7.400@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E9F8.7090107@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4736E9F8.7090107@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "\[LoN\]Kamikaze" Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:02:14 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze a écrit : > make configure > runs the configure build stage if the port has one. > > make config > calls the config dialogue is there a way to entirely clean a ports or remove config file to obtain the config dialog at the next make or make install M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 12:05:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BDA16A417 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:05:59 -0000 Le Cocq Michel a écrit : > is there a way to entirely clean a ports or remove config file to obtain > the config dialog at the next make or make install it's written in man 7 ports thanks M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 12:24:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790BB16A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E5413C4CA for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:24:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so834068rvb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:24:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=rzn93fQENHVjfiv/QsLPoO8EC6lbi+PHMD5sTQzM7FI=; b=GDr/NvZ19C6aDVGgZxOqRavHil5ACiOctynivTdx40tfkjH2j2YmYrAig2ema/OX0EoOhzUAaFDEeyDoJLGngHpV2BpkS2WQ/f2SR6PCndQBm41ksjpQ3Gzq8lJUfHS/nTU1IlWC5SRdyQtGwgdJjyKa3i88YENRChG+z2vS2dc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=BCo/ep9VQ+vqDIoWFeNcej7J3+HG7nNt6VNmnklclYt5J0N7XbGLUgGKhxbZzYAOakCD9exuE51hq++U9ZcE7zEkryt1OK+ER/CK8Rva/kZD66htNEdZSd6Cu3WLeMSmTUzNqhZ9XcLWK9XukA5N3+o5IBmY+Y+utb9IknwFdAE= Received: by 10.142.246.8 with SMTP id t8mr135602wfh.1194783882332; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.104.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:24:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:24:42 +0100 From: "Riccardo Giuntoli" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:24:53 -0000 Hi there, i use proftpd as my ftp solution in other three production servers with no problem. Last week we buy out fourth server, and i started to install and configure FreeBSD as usual. After upgrade the sources and the ports i've got: [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(106): uname -a FreeBSD tsunami.chroot.eu 6.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Nov 9 12:15:54 EST 2007 taglio@tsunami.chroot.eu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TSUNAMI i386 [taglio@tsunami ]/home/taglio(107): And i've installed proftpd: [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(107): proftpd -v - ProFTPD Version 1.3.1 [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(108): For an initial simple configuration with no vhosts i've edited /usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf like this: [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(110): cat proftpd.conf ServerName "Chroot tsunami hosting" ServerType standalone DefaultServer on ScoreboardFile /var/run/proftpd.scoreboard Port 21 Umask 022 MaxInstances 30 User nobody Group nogroup DefaultRoot ~/www AllowOverwrite on DenyAll TimeoutIdle 0 TimeoutLinger 0 TimeoutLogin 0 TimeoutNoTransfer 0 TimeoutSession 0 TimeoutStalled 0 [taglio@tsunami ]/usr/local/etc(111): and in /etc/pam.d/ftpd i've got this: [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(111): cat /etc/pam.d/ftpd ftpd auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass ftpd account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass ftpd session required pam_permit.so [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(112): After checking syntax and have started the proftpd daemon i've got this problem : [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(112): ftp localhost Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.chroot.eu. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection. ftp> That i've got also on external interfaces. Can someone help me with some ideas? Thank you in advance, best regards, Riccardo Giuntoli -- Name: Riccardo Giuntoli Email: taglio@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.luxoro.org/ Location: Genova, Italy PGP Key: 0x67123739 PGP Fingerprint: CE75 16B5 D855 842FAB54 FB5C DDC6 4640 6712 3739 Key server: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 13:04:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1596F16A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD28713C48D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:04:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=52503 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IrCTL-0002QK-0S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:31 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([213.51.103.48]:5031 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrCTK-0000ah-8V for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:30 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CEE398B6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.13.8 (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:03:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: "FreeBSD Questions" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Subject: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:04:26 -0000 Hi all, One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of traffic with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP addresses, like onlin= e radio? Thanks in advance. Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 14:23:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7814F16A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345D413C4A5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so711659pyb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:23:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KdTw/yg7Emr65hScRZ4XZCJe+MRVqJSk2ghf8SUWIrc=; b=XPh05iVfiVEzb9zOGBAf04NH9QYKVRnI9uMju/Z9Mbv9kJWKOsipeGIl+hwudBB7w+fIj1yT71WBB3eNvG5oZpXAHYY2Cptjde823lasdJ4MSwfe4sRoNXyye2nN4V4K3WsH/DrPeOUAoGrgOJFTlRgjbJwQX7q8mejCmBLz6mA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nLdLIftlFv6k+wPe10krM23GG+/7WOs/xQ3dOF8RTI4kr4PWzjMiZZr6f1vqi9SODtnZd76hPUDOgaFUL1XqV3TuiiQ4YAIEGbLSoqjsDRZcpnkzcfGnZtai2q4xc7h1V1f82VkD2mgjtuEO3+s3ssO5c7/FmDDBMkaycBxOILQ= Received: by 10.65.211.16 with SMTP id n16mr11478631qbq.1194791006117; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:23:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.107.3 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:23:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:23:26 -0500 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4736D38F.4070106@gmail.com> <20071111141203.GA77016@harmless.hu> Subject: Re: need an explanation of "make serarch" output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:23:35 -0000 Sorry beinf rude but I wonder if either of the responders took there own advice and RTFM'ed (where M=mail) What I mean is I was *NOT* asking how to get the deps list... I was asking that for example "make search key=jdk16 display=bdeps" will display multiple "bdeps" lines which one contains the correct deps list (if any) or do I need to combine them to get a complete list? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 14:27:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E41616A420 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:27:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakenet1@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EB113C4B7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakenet1@optusnet.com.au) Received: from [10.0.0.3] (c220-239-13-242.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.13.242]) by mail15.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lABERYot009765; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:27:34 +1100 In-Reply-To: <000e01c823a9$bd48f720$6501a8c0@DIMENSION> References: <000e01c823a9$bd48f720$6501a8c0@DIMENSION> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <44C34FFF-B93F-4545-B9DB-60E68B1781E8@optusnet.com.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jerahmy Pocott Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:27:33 +1100 To: Olivier GARNIER X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' Subject: Re: Install problems on Dell Vostro X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:27:49 -0000 On 11/11/2007, at 1:55 AM, Olivier GARNIER wrote: > Hi, > > I tried with FreeBSD and FreeSBIE when I received my vostro 1700 (on > septembre), and the network wasn't working well. Network, Some Xorg > problems > and so on ... > So I installed Ubuntu 7.04 witch was the less worth (network/video > worked > with some adaptations). Now I've got an Ubuntu 7.10 witch is > working well. > > If you make FreeBSD work on Vostro I'm interested. I'm going to try putting a network card in and disabling the on-board one.. The probe shows a lot of 'unknown' in relation to the ACPI, which I think is the root of all this evil. Unfortunately if I disable it the drives are no longer found.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 14:52:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C489416A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C9513C48D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:52:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lABEqVN1068424 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:52:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:52:40 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711110852.40855.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: what changed recently with browser plugins? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:52:57 -0000 i want to say it was early to mid-october, that standard opera and firefox stopped working (upon upgrade) with the plugins (flash). previously, most flash that i would encounter worked fine in opera, which was my preference since java (such as weathermaps on www.noaa.gov) worked without a hitch as well. now that time has passed, flashplugin has stopped working with standard opera, and now that im woefully using linux-opera, the java stuff doesnt work like i would expect. is there anyway to get my updated system to behave like it used to? (mostly pertaining to flash, as java still works right under 'standard' opera). thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 15:03:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651EA16A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4DBB13C4A7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:03:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07738 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:56:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from ppp-82-135-2-147.dynamic.mnet-online.de(82.135.2.147) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xmab07705; Sun, 11 Nov 07 15:56:41 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lABF2peW015664 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:02:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:02:51 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111150251.GA15448@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) Subject: problems with building a patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:03:28 -0000 Hello, I've build a patch for 'nn-6.7.3' to add support for RFC1522 to my beloved news-reader. Before giving it away I was trying it on a fresh workspace of the /usr/ports/news/nn and run into the problem that new files which brings the patch to the tree are always created in the current working dir, even if I create them before with touch(1), existing files, like 'answer.c' in the example below, get patched correctly: $ /usr/ports/news/nn/work $ touch nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 $ patch < ../myRFC1522.patch Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |diff -N -r -u -X exclude nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 |--- nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 |+++ nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 -------------------------- (Creating file PATCH.RFC1522...) Patching file PATCH.RFC1522 using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 1. Hmm... The next patch looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |diff -N -r -u -X exclude nn-6.7.3/answer.c nn-6.7.3.patched/answer.c |--- nn-6.7.3/answer.c Wed Mar 30 21:28:22 2005 |+++ nn-6.7.3.patched/answer.c Fri Nov 9 12:58:26 2007 -------------------------- Patching file nn-6.7.3/answer.c using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 30. Hunk #2 succeeded at 155. Hunk #3 succeeded at 166. Hunk #4 succeeded at 278. Hunk #5 succeeded at 291. Hunk #6 succeeded at 458. Hunk #7 succeeded at 487. Hunk #8 succeeded at 690. Hunk #9 succeeded at 1017. done $ ls -l total 10 -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 5342 11 nov 15:39 PATCH.RFC1522 -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 0 11 nov 15:39 PATCH.RFC1522.orig drwxr-xr-x 6 guru wheel 4096 11 nov 15:39 nn-6.7.3 $ ls -l nn-6.7.3/answer.c* -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 23903 11 nov 15:39 nn-6.7.3/answer.c -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 22625 30 mar 2005 nn-6.7.3/answer.c.orig What is the reason for this? I'm a bit lost :-( Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 15:57:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2EC16A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (ms05.mailstreet2003.net [69.25.50.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2491C13C4A8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:57:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:59:37 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB1F@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem Thread-Index: AcgkXflno62UCgNtTS69X/aY12kYTQAHcQ6Q References: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> From: "Chris Haulmark" To: "Riccardo Giuntoli" , Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:57:07 -0000 PiBbdGFnbGlvQHRzdW5hbWldL3Vzci9sb2NhbC9ldGMoMTEyKTogZnRwIGxvY2FsaG9zdA0KPiBU cnlpbmcgMTI3LjAuMC4xLi4uDQo+IENvbm5lY3RlZCB0byBsb2NhbGhvc3QuY2hyb290LmV1Lg0K PiA0MjEgU2VydmljZSBub3QgYXZhaWxhYmxlLCByZW1vdGUgc2VydmVyIGhhcyBjbG9zZWQgY29u bmVjdGlvbi4NCj4gZnRwPg0KPiANCj4gVGhhdCBpJ3ZlIGdvdCBhbHNvIG9uIGV4dGVybmFsIGlu dGVyZmFjZXMuDQo+IA0KPiBDYW4gc29tZW9uZSBoZWxwIG1lIHdpdGggc29tZSBpZGVhcz8NCj4g DQo+IFRoYW5rIHlvdSBpbiBhZHZhbmNlLCBiZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsIFJpY2NhcmRvIEdpdW50b2xp DQo+IA0KDQpXaHkgbm90IGVuYWJsZSBsb2dnaW5nIGZvciBQcm9GVFBEIGFuZCByZWFkIHRoZSBs b2dzIA0KYWZ0ZXIgdGhlIGF0dGVtcHRzIGFnYWluPw0KDQpEbyB0aGUgc2FtZSBmb3IgZGVidWdn aW5nIHRvby4NCg0KQ2hyaXMNCg0KPiANCj4gDQo+IC0tDQo+IE5hbWU6IFJpY2NhcmRvIEdpdW50 b2xpDQo+IEVtYWlsOiB0YWdsaW9AZ21haWwuY29tDQo+IEhvbWVwYWdlOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lmx1 eG9yby5vcmcvDQo+IExvY2F0aW9uOiBHZW5vdmEsIEl0YWx5DQo+IFBHUCBLZXk6IDB4NjcxMjM3 MzkNCj4gUEdQIEZpbmdlcnByaW50OiBDRTc1IDE2QjUgRDg1NSA4NDJGQUI1NCBGQjVDIEREQzYg NDY0MCA2NzEyIDM3MzkNCj4gS2V5IHNlcnZlcjogaGtwOi8vd3d3a2V5cy5ldS5wZ3AubmV0DQo+ IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fDQo+IGZyZWVi c2QtcXVlc3Rpb25zQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdA0KPiBodHRwOi8vbGlzdHMuZnJl ZWJzZC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9mcmVlYnNkLXF1ZXN0aW9ucw0KPiBUbyB1bnN1YnNj cmliZSwgc2VuZCBhbnkgbWFpbCB0byAiZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnMtDQo+IHVuc3Vic2NyaWJl QGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIg0K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 15:57:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA44416A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail.networktest.com (mail.networktest.com [207.181.8.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D260D13C4B5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: by mail.networktest.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 260D178C4D; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:56:56 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.networktest.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from lion.local (cpe-75-82-195-55.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.195.55]) by mail.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BEE78C55 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:56:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47372644.4060201@networktest.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:56:52 -0800 From: David Newman Organization: Network Test Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> <64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:57:11 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/10/07 9:09 PM, Modulok wrote: >>> I'd welcome suggestions on how (or whether) to try to revive a SCSI > drive that's failing. > > It depends on how valuable the data on the array is, and more > importantly, how much funding you have at your disposal to fix the > problem. If it were me, I would set aside the bad disk, connect a new > disk to the card and re-synchronize the array. (Assuming one of the > members still retains a good copy of the data.) Afterwards I would > destroy, or toss the existing disk in the trash can (depending on the > sensitivity of the data stored on it.) Thanks for your reply. An update: After doing what you suggest (leaving in the "good" disk, adding a new disk, RAID rebuilding) I still got soft write errors -- with *either one* of the disks I tried. Then I tried putting both disks in an identical server and they came up fine, no read or write errors. Ergo, the bad RAID controller is bad and the disks may be OK. >>> Is there some other way to: >>> b)monitor the health of disks on a Compaq controller so it doesn't > get to this point to begin with? > > There are various tools out there that attempt to 'monitor' the > condition of disk drives to try and predict when failure is eminent. > For valuable data, it is safer to setup a mirror and simply toss out > bad disks as they fail. For extremely valuable data use a 3 disk > array. With a 3 disk setup you will still be covered in the event that > an additional disk craps out during the re-sync. > > To quote google's article on disk failure, regarding SMART: Right, I've heard it said that "SMART isn't." Nonetheless, I'd appreciate any suggestions to monitor the health of disks -- and RAID controllers too -- on HP Proliant servers running FreeBSD. thanks again. dn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHNyZDyPxGVjntI4IRAqk1AKCUwByNOAJZwvtD9V21TZfyaMWaxgCdFSCZ dZjf3ynK+4OffBzsDOawF9A= =DUqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 16:15:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A6A16A41A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4845113C4A3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=60336 helo=attila) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IrFSj-0000qd-EA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:15:06 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:43:42 +0330 From: "Bahman M." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Claws+spamd: No spam is detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:15:28 -0000 Hi all, I have Claws-Mail and spamd installed (from ports) and although I have been using this combination -I've been been manually marking all spams as 'spam'- for more than 2 months, still _no_ spam message is detected. I've followed the instructions on Claws/spamd wiki. I've got the followings in /etc/rc.conf: spamd_enable="YES" spamd_flags="-C /usr/local/etc/spamd -i 127.0.0.1 -p 783 -u spamd -d -l" Also Claws configuration parameters exactly match the spamd_flags above. System information: % uname -a FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #2: Fri Sep 7 14:23:40 IRST 2007 root@attila:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HELIUM i386 % spamd -V SpamAssassin Server version 3.2.3 running on Perl 5.8.8 with SSL support (IO::Socket::SSL 1.08) with zlib support (Compress::Zlib 2.006) % claws-mail --version Claws Mail version 3.0.0 What am I doing wrong? What should I do to enable Claws/spamd detect spam? I'd appreciate any hint/help. TIA, -- Bahman Movaqar Whenever there are great virtues, it's a sure sign something's wrong. -Bertolt Brecht From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 16:26:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1DF16A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693BA13C4A5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so470158wra for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:26:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8EhHye5c+6aXC09tSFrrZr/y54qdhvrgaYAPxie1GsY=; b=lXx9WO2EbyNpvY0wZXuiMyus9cl7XEgEln/iAnXvVfbgYampGUWg12W9cRNpF2BTFUK2FHbnbHlTZUF/Ful4VakYL9BzzJpv7t+WPBDj7K0a6XtOPAzj5H7+1e5YsWzj6lCyaknB3SO+81l+yIwK4+B0XE6Pv/HstHZobEd3xUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=r/Y95r4cKZqWjbmDwIgmx/Fmbo8aMm5lF9MtjDe70endGCdPPb+giW3PkHn87z9yHoiS8ID7/PuFh6YpwVMoDVlMndKoCSZYErSIx8bU/273FWpsZ54h9QBFcV/nE3fAdf2/U/EfQRtOmtXtZeNBBZZvm+kdTSqLm0bWTDwgED8= Received: by 10.150.139.15 with SMTP id m15mr600816ybd.1194798387330; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:26:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.181.21 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:26:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e0711110826h219cef9ah1a24f856f947d35b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:26:27 +0000 From: "Martin Hepworth" To: "Bahman M." In-Reply-To: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Claws+spamd: No spam is detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:26:47 -0000 HI you need to tell the MTA to pass email through spamassassin/clamav somehow. Depending on what you're MTA is (sendmail/exim/postfix etc) its different. try "sendmail spamassassin" for example in google.. -- martin On Nov 11, 2007 4:13 PM, Bahman M. wrote: > Hi all, > > I have Claws-Mail and spamd installed (from ports) and although I have > been using this combination -I've been been manually marking all spams > as 'spam'- for more than 2 months, still _no_ spam message is detected. > > I've followed the instructions on Claws/spamd wiki. I've got the > followings in /etc/rc.conf: > spamd_enable="YES" > spamd_flags="-C /usr/local/etc/spamd -i 127.0.0.1 -p 783 -u spamd -d > -l" > Also Claws configuration parameters exactly match the spamd_flags above. > > > System information: > % uname -a > FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #2: Fri Sep 7 > 14:23:40 IRST 2007 root@attila:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HELIUM i386 > > % spamd -V > SpamAssassin Server version 3.2.3 > running on Perl 5.8.8 > with SSL support (IO::Socket::SSL 1.08) > with zlib support (Compress::Zlib 2.006) > > % claws-mail --version > Claws Mail version 3.0.0 > > What am I doing wrong? What should I do to enable Claws/spamd detect > spam? I'd appreciate any hint/help. > > TIA, > > -- > Bahman Movaqar > > Whenever there are great virtues, it's a sure sign something's wrong. > -Bertolt Brecht > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:03:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502C316A469 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from ro-out-1112.google.com (ro-out-1112.google.com [72.14.202.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9913C480 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by ro-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m6so1123097roe for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:03:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=7kQKR0P2jDAXDxyRalP5f7FrXItXxjbMZILpT2R59iU=; b=D9DCw4HoQdBGuqYjRupfZ2IoCq+MGcWoj7excNQtk7jUOrSFBkCjd1AerxWaNFUKfVM1rSaclItn7zCU9NcPUCRka7uEOfghzT/di40miD5N4wUvrmqG3Lx8scTGkXJfdERt1VRli3y7Ki7+70BX0R3CsAJV2QgDTfztWOwIJf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=NzU9kaZcp1sT/jZ3Z4/XbeFiVBsOhtet4rbmjPD396bYQvCvpafbNfqiV+iL9rxG4hCAQLy8n6qFKXPXH4puKZOjvvwM+2cDROUCrUp2EbqQ62oIw9s8FPgg2e9xa0xHwuQhK28GpXhVJkiB7w+qICYRs0F3NnP3mwZ0m1STyFM= Received: by 10.141.78.14 with SMTP id f14mr1954639rvl.1194792211761; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.32.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm8014683rvf.2007.11.11.06.43.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 46695143E7; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:13:25 +0530 (IST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:13:25 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:03:38 -0000 On 14:03:29 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: > Hi all, > > One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of traffic > with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP addresses, like online > radio? > Yes. Not altq(It is for QoS). But pf can of course. :) localip = "www.shoutcast.com" radioport = 554 block quick out on fxp0 proto tcp from any to $remoteip port $radioport Here is an example for you lift and plonk into your /etc/pf.conf. :) Best of luck! Obviously the IP and port are fictitious. This will block all the incoming traffic from any internal IP to the online radio service. Hope this helps. regards, Girish What is the port for online radio? Many use http. If you want to block RTSP, then I guess it should be 554 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:06:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A40E16A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B09713C4B5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so628376nzf for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:06:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Zo0wdKKW/NRmPh3yxVvgCbkEw15v4vpl4/CRJHSdhcM=; b=o6wpV7ECFnWeJtMqeTrGH2sN916dUry6aFH5xIqUPLOt66GU3WOEAj+JtkFZdQijJZjR1N33i2bSqqGclnKPQZ4bChIEFROXIh42J5UQ5GCSPMB5Q50BlgQdSJQ00+aYvCodk6cF+C8s+3TsNTxENG7BYAc522y2lUIdhNCRLm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eHWDYqL3A3oXcmOh2r9UhHyZyIdoXS21vVu6Yd4GNQ7lglS1g2k9esXMB5RVyWgmx3/Lo4qZR9HJkKh+Ci5A/1wmUBtH6Suh5zybUoYGeizzQI/jothRFUlVNoFtgw0hzUGtDF9nHUWvgpVTpqVok7/rZmUkyCDImup8SI5xwH8= Received: by 10.142.216.9 with SMTP id o9mr158516wfg.1194800781807; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:06:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.104.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:06:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <31fbaca90711110906ta8766wfeb275e55dc3c009@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:06:21 +0100 From: "Riccardo Giuntoli" To: "Chris Haulmark" In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB1F@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB1F@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:06:36 -0000 On Nov 11, 2007 4:59 PM, Chris Haulmark wrote: > [snip] > > Why not enable logging for ProFTPD and read the logs > after the attempts again? > > Do the same for debugging too. > >[snip] > Got this: toor@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(107)# proftpd -4 -n -d10 - mod_tls/2.1.2: using OpenSSL 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 - retrieved UID 65534 for user 'nobody' - retrieved GID 65533 for group 'nogroup' tsunami.chroot.eu - tsunami.chroot.eu - Config for Chroot tsunami hosting: tsunami.chroot.eu - Limit tsunami.chroot.eu - DenyAll tsunami.chroot.eu - DefaultServer tsunami.chroot.eu - Umask tsunami.chroot.eu - UserID tsunami.chroot.eu - UserName tsunami.chroot.eu - GroupID tsunami.chroot.eu - GroupName tsunami.chroot.eu - DefaultRoot tsunami.chroot.eu - AllowOverwrite tsunami.chroot.eu - TimeoutIdle tsunami.chroot.eu - TimeoutLinger tsunami.chroot.eu - TimeoutLogin tsunami.chroot.eu - TimeoutNoTransfer tsunami.chroot.eu - TimeoutStalled tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at mod_delay.c:307 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at mod_delay.c:309 tsunami.chroot.eu - retrieved group ID: 65534 tsunami.chroot.eu - setting group ID: 65534 tsunami.chroot.eu - SETUP PRIVS at main.c:2849 tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at main.c:1926 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at main.c:1933 tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at main.c:2257 tsunami.chroot.eu - opening scoreboard '/var/run/proftpd.scoreboard' tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at main.c:2283 tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at inet.c:250 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at inet.c:267 tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at inet.c:343 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at inet.c:406 tsunami.chroot.eu - getnameinfo error: ai_family not supported tsunami.chroot.eu - ProFTPD 1.3.1 (stable) (built Sun Nov 11 06:25:49 EST 2007) standalone mode STARTUP tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at pidfile.c:42 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at pidfile.c:44 tsunami.chroot.eu - getnameinfo error: ai_family not supported tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at main.c:1054 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at main.c:1058 tsunami.chroot.eu - getnameinfo error: ai_family not supported tsunami.chroot.eu - no matching vhost found for (null)#21, using DefaultServer 'Chroot tsunami hosting' tsunami.chroot.eu - getnameinfo error: ai_family not supported tsunami.chroot.eu - getnameinfo error: ai_family not supported ^Ctsunami.chroot.eu - ProFTPD terminating (signal 2) tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at main.c:1789 tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at mod_delay.c:1095 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at mod_delay.c:1097 tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at main.c:1811 tsunami.chroot.eu - ProFTPD 1.3.1 standalone mode SHUTDOWN tsunami.chroot.eu - ROOT PRIVS at main.c:1818 tsunami.chroot.eu - deleting existing scoreboard '/var/run/proftpd.scoreboard' tsunami.chroot.eu - RELINQUISH PRIVS at main.c:1820 [toor@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(108)# Any suggestions? Best Regards, Riccardo Giuntoli. -- Name: Riccardo Giuntoli Email: taglio@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.luxoro.org/ Location: Genova, Italy PGP Key: 0x67123739 PGP Fingerprint: CE75 16B5 D855 842FAB54 FB5C DDC6 4640 6712 3739 Key server: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:08:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAD116A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0506813C4C1 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lABH7aJ6025472 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:44 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lABH7VEf003170; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lABH7UFH003169; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Aryeh Friedman Message-ID: <20071111170730.GB3038@kobe.laptop> References: <4736D38F.4070106@gmail.com> <20071111141203.GA77016@harmless.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.993, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.41, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need an explanation of "make serarch" output X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:08:01 -0000 On 2007-11-11 09:23, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > Sorry beinf rude but I wonder if either of the responders took there > own advice and RTFM'ed (where M=mail) > > What I mean is I was *NOT* asking how to get the deps list... I was > asking that for example "make search key=jdk16 display=bdeps" will > display multiple "bdeps" lines which one contains the correct deps > list (if any) or do I need to combine them to get a complete list? Yes, you need to combine them. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:13:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D6616A46C for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5F313C4AA for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE57BADC103F for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.154.143] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrFvp-00025p-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:09 +0100 Message-ID: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:42 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Izj+AS6ZO/EcAKlvteowXrMBR10+pODv7AcQK 6HxRRwrenLB1HLvi7J2a19FkIIGxrajaMncwyWNJYMatyaMiwe +ZPgqlcAc= Subject: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:13:34 -0000 Dear all, Any help concerning the topic as follws would be very appreciated. freebsdangel# uname -a FreeBSD freebsdangel.de 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sat Nov 10 20:15:45 UTC 2007 root@freebsdangel.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 freebsdangel# It seems that this browser-plugin stuff is neverending. All native freebsd browsers refuse to use plugins at all. The linux versions of opera and and firefox correctly recognize the linux-flashplugin7. But the java-plugin is not recognized although having been linked correctly from diablo portsinstall. freebsdangel# pwd /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins freebsdangel# ls -l total 6898 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 10 14:58 .thunderbird.keep -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 856 Nov 10 23:45 flashplayer.xpt -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7040036 Nov 10 23:45 libflashplayer.so lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 63 Nov 11 17:33 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so freebsdangel# ls -l /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 143280 Jun 14 2006 /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so freebsdangel# Konqueror though can use java, when being given the correct java executable path. But, Konqueror is totally messed up somehow, it always takes about 30 seconds to open a webpage. firefox and opera are pretty fast though. Another related issue: linux-flashplugin9 always segfaults the browser when used. I dunno what to do, I would relly like to be able to watch latest flash movies. Best regards, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:18:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA4516A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:18:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9422A13C48E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:18:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lABHI1P1025948 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:18:17 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lABHHtON003249; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lABHHtge003248; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:55 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20071111171755.GC3038@kobe.laptop> References: <20071111150251.GA15448@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071111150251.GA15448@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.993, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.41, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with building a patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:18:41 -0000 On 2007-11-11 16:02, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I've build a patch for 'nn-6.7.3' to add support for RFC1522 to my > beloved news-reader. Before giving it away I was trying it on a fresh > workspace of the /usr/ports/news/nn and run into the problem that > new files which brings the patch to the tree are always created > in the current working dir, even if I create them before with touch(1), > existing files, like 'answer.c' in the example below, get patched > correctly: > > $ /usr/ports/news/nn/work > $ touch nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 > $ patch < ../myRFC1522.patch > Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... > The text leading up to this was: > -------------------------- > |diff -N -r -u -X exclude nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 > |--- nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 > |+++ nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 > -------------------------- Here's the problem. The patch files for ports should *not* include the `nn-6.7.3' part, like this one. They should be relative to the toplevel directory of the unzipped/untarred port, i.e.: diff -N -u PATCH.RFC1522.orig PATCH.RFC1522 --- PATCH.RFC1522.orig Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 +++ PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:20:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F30616A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:20:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEF613C481 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E4CAC91179 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:20:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.154.143] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrGTm-0002Rc-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:20:14 +0100 Message-ID: <473747FF.4040500@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:20:47 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> In-Reply-To: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+u4FeYirhe0rWmlHfcIPALoubzVn30QOsgAexL rzF9BEUGKjejsbe2JN/Vv7oqSgdQPsVyJy+wbpsk2fKrGdqhSU mamO3JyD0= Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:20:59 -0000 Maybe for the Konqueror problem, changing the http proxy version would do. Anyone know where the configuration for this resides? Tino Engel schrieb: > Dear all, > Any help concerning the topic as follws would be very appreciated. > > freebsdangel# uname -a > FreeBSD freebsdangel.de 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sat Nov 10 > 20:15:45 UTC 2007 > root@freebsdangel.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > freebsdangel# > > It seems that this browser-plugin stuff is neverending. > All native freebsd browsers refuse to use plugins at all. > The linux versions of opera and and firefox correctly recognize the > linux-flashplugin7. > But the java-plugin is not recognized although having been linked > correctly from diablo portsinstall. > > freebsdangel# pwd > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins > freebsdangel# ls -l > total 6898 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 0 Nov 10 14:58 .thunderbird.keep > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 856 Nov 10 23:45 flashplayer.xpt > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7040036 Nov 10 23:45 libflashplayer.so > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 63 Nov 11 17:33 libjavaplugin_oji.so > -> /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so > freebsdangel# ls -l > /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 143280 Jun 14 2006 > /usr/local/diablo-jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so > freebsdangel# > > Konqueror though can use java, when being given the correct java > executable path. But, Konqueror is totally messed up somehow, it > always takes about 30 seconds to open a webpage. firefox and opera are > pretty fast though. > > Another related issue: linux-flashplugin9 always segfaults the browser > when used. I dunno what to do, I would relly like to be able to watch > latest flash movies. > > Best regards, Tino > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:49:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7857316A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (ms05.mailstreet2003.net [69.25.50.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4296613C4A6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:51:28 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB33@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <31fbaca90711110906ta8766wfeb275e55dc3c009@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem Thread-Index: AcgkhTYEO84I5+9kSyikVRH33B2H2wABLeZg References: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB1F@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> <31fbaca90711110906ta8766wfeb275e55dc3c009@mail.gmail.com> From: "Chris Haulmark" To: "Riccardo Giuntoli" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:49:01 -0000 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Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=50957 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IrGwF-0004uX-NN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:49:39 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([213.51.103.48]:5035 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrGwE-0002Ab-9O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:49:39 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9D0398B6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:49:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.13.35 (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:49:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3815.192.168.13.35.1194803377.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:49:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:50:36 -0000 On Sun, November 11, 2007 15:43, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 14:03:29 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of traffic >> with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP addresses, like >> online radio? >> > > Yes. > > > Not altq(It is for QoS). > > > But pf can of course. :) > > > localip =3D "www.shoutcast.com" radioport =3D 554 block quick out on f= xp0 > proto tcp from any to $remoteip port $radioport > > Here is an example for you lift and plonk into your /etc/pf.conf. :) > > > Best of luck! > > > Obviously the IP and port are fictitious. > > > This will block all the incoming traffic from any internal IP to the > online radio service. > > Hope this helps. > > > regards, Girish > What is the port for online radio? Many use http. If you want to block > RTSP, then I guess it should be 554 Thanks for your answer, although that's not quite what I'm looking for: I know it's possible to 'shape' the traffic with altq, so it's possible i= n theory to shape certain kind of traffic to almost nihil. Smart devices like packetshapers (and even some proxy appliances like Blue Coat) have separate categories for streaming media, so I was wondering if PF and alt= q could do the same. Your solution works, however you'll have to know what sites are being visited in order to block them entirely. Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:51:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1A916A41A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C685713C4CC for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lABHp3Pm044901; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:51:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lABHoxrH044897; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:51:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:50:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Le Cocq Michel In-Reply-To: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Message-ID: <20071111185052.M44867@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:51:26 -0000 because you have to type make config On Sun, 11 Nov 2007, Le Cocq Michel wrote: > Hello all, I know the question has been ask many times, but I don't > understand why some times if I build a port with make install and then remove > it with pkg_delete and make clean && make clean-depends I can't obtain again > the configuration screen even if i use make configure ... !!!??? > > Thanks > > Michel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:52:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7058716A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E1E813C4C4 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lABHq5Gf044929; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:52:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lABHq5wE044926; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:52:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:52:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Le Cocq Michel In-Reply-To: <4736EF8F.60708@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> Message-ID: <20071111185116.P44867@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4736E8B7.400@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E9F8.7090107@gmx.de> <4736EF8F.60708@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "\[LoN\]Kamikaze" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:52:26 -0000 > > is there a way to entirely clean a ports or remove config file to obtain > the config dialog at the next make or make install > rm -rf /var/db/ports for removing configs of everything or rm -rf /var/db/ports/someport it doesn't affect already installed ports, just building process From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:53:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087A416A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE76013C4B6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=39405 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IrGzx-0005dt-He for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:53:29 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([213.51.103.48]:4855 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrGzw-0003g5-O8 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:53:29 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604A6398B6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:53:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.13.35 (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:53:28 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4243.192.168.13.35.1194803608.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:53:28 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:53:41 -0000 On Sun, November 11, 2007 15:43, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 14:03:29 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of traffic >> with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP addresses, like >> online radio? >> > > Yes. > > > Not altq(It is for QoS). > the OpenBSD site mentiones 'Class Based Queueing' on this page: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/queueing.html There's some 'example' that userB might get 250K for 'audio', however the entire page fails to explain how this could be done. Maybe someone on thi= s list got it running... Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 17:53:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D7516A421 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C81B13C4C1 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 14671 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 17:53:33 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Nov 2007 17:53:33 -0000 Message-ID: <4737416A.2060606@chuckr.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:52:42 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <4736669F.5010408@chuckr.org> <20071111034559.GE72824@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20071111034559.GE72824@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List Subject: Re: ps options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:53:41 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Nov 10), Chuck Robey said: >> I have spent all the time I can stand, going over the ps man page, but I >> can't see any option to get a hierarchical listing. I mean, where the >> listings are sorted to where parents come before children, and the children >> get indentation, so you can see at a glance what's running more easily. >> It's a standard thing on many OSes, and I was sorta hoping it'd be >> available on FreeBSD. Maybe under a different name? > > It's usually a separate command (ptree on Solaris for example). Try > the sysutils/pstree port. > I've gotten a lot of replies, so I thought to give a blanket "Thank you" because pstree is just what I wanted. You might actually be as suprised as I was when I found that both Solaris and Linux both of them (and some others, but I forget which ones) do happen to have an option to ps itself, tha gives the same as a pstree listing, which is why I asked about options. Doesn't matter, I'm quite pleased now, so again: Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 18:04:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887B216A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dj.vankuijk@chello.nl) Received: from viefep17-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C863813C48D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:04:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dj.vankuijk@chello.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (really [213.93.247.90]) by viefep33-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071111174833.GGML11514.viefep33-int.chello.at@[192.168.1.101]>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:48:33 +0100 Message-ID: <4737405E.9010305@chello.nl> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:48:14 +0100 From: David van Kuijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: josh.carroll@gmail.com References: <4718A0EE.6030804@chello.nl> <8cb6106e0710281855g151fd811nc4f06a6566850e03@mail.gmail.com> <105fa37b0710281937j4004538cid69963ea83277ac@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0710281950s37b50753kf5a08c1760f8d2f9@mail.gmail.com> <8cb6106e0710281957j51feec28ue23360c496a7adbc@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0710281957j51feec28ue23360c496a7adbc@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Hakan K , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with VNC on AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:04:37 -0000 Hi Josh and others Has anybody been able to solve this problem yet? I pulled in a friend who has a zillion years of experience with BSD and was not able to solve the problem. It looks like it is not even possible to start the X when the machine has a monitor attched to it. I installed FreeBSD 7.0 Beta with xorg 7.3.1, but there the problem seems to be the same... Greetings, D From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 18:10:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BEE16A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9657113C48E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so634606nzf for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8cSAbKm8A39HtVYo54CruJ/1nt/8ONK+RV6QYoOT3ek=; b=oU/WUE+zhdJ+6oNB6cYVd/tk6P3tpzJZBvoO49i5UtYHlsfiLAvO+cFOkljwA1GgyCEd9Oa9pgANLcz8xvwCLUgb5m+vXBe3FdtN3sT+zgLmnK6gFqQQQBc3B3nJmFc8etEHMZVXxthGF4G29ajvYErJSIprFUMdunButol9bn0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KmeSE+dSYnH+faHCdaOXS3Lv+OerIvvWQMbzXXs7sYvfOeFlkGVVVE30XNsgMj110ScakO6l8oXS5PXTZt4s6Jq2DFflH7XdjYeiQ6FxtPxmfpLDnSjI0qWMITP5DmO78cj3iqWjAwW8jn+rXFPN8nGH4+OoiZ83hC7P/sFw+u4= Received: by 10.142.154.20 with SMTP id b20mr150430wfe.1194804617749; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.104.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:10:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <31fbaca90711111010r17c784d7v709676538b80b0de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:10:17 +0100 From: "Riccardo Giuntoli" To: "Chris Haulmark" In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB33@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB1F@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> <31fbaca90711110906ta8766wfeb275e55dc3c009@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB33@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:10:29 -0000 On Nov 11, 2007 6:51 PM, Chris Haulmark wrote: > [snip] > > You did not enable PAM in proftpd.conf. There is no vhosts > configured in the proftpd.conf either. Did you intend to use > vhosts? > PAM is enable by default, isn't it? I use the simplest configuration that i can to debug the problem (no vhost, no ssl) > Also are you using inetd to serve the FTP connections? If so, > why configure ProFTPD as your standalone server. I use standalone configuration, no inetd cause i use inetd in another ipaddres to server mail related services (pop pops imap imaps) > > Did you read any documentations on how to enable pam for ProFTPD? > If so, which documentations? I've read almost all to use this simple configuration. I use proftpd in other 2 productions server with more complex configuration. > > I found that there's a bug that might have been fixed back in Jan > but it gave out similar errors. It is located at: > > http://bugs.proftpd.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2877 Yes i've read this. But it is not related to the mine. I've opened another thread in ProFTPD forum: http://forums.proftpd.org/smf/index.php?topic=3111.0 > [snip] Thank you for the interest, best regards, Riccardo Giuntoli -- Name: Riccardo Giuntoli Email: taglio@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.luxoro.org/ Location: Genova, Italy PGP Key: 0x67123739 PGP Fingerprint: CE75 16B5 D855 842FAB54 FB5C DDC6 4640 6712 3739 Key server: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 18:23:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE92516A469 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CFA13C4A5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 25653 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 18:23:35 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 11 Nov 2007 18:23:35 -0000 Message-ID: <47374874.7030006@chuckr.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:22:44 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <4736E080.6060401@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E758.3060402@infracaninophile.co.uk> <4736E8B7.400@lipn.univ-paris13.fr> <4736E9F8.7090107@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4736E9F8.7090107@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Le Cocq Michel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make configure vs first make X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:23:48 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > Le Cocq Michel wrote: >> Matthew Seaman a écrit : >>> That's because you need to do: >>> >>> make config >>> >>> which has a very different effect to 'make configure.' >>> >>> Matthew >>> >> can you explain the != ? >> >> thanks >> >> Michel > > make configure > runs the configure build stage if the port has one. > > make config > calls the config dialogue Use 'make rmconfig' it wipes out the stored options. Look into the Makefile for lines specifying options "OPTIONS=" Oh, yeah, the != (which is documented in the make(7) man page, which is a very good document) means, send the text in that defition to the shell, and set the variable to whatever the shell returns, like MYNAME != echo $$USER (you need the two dollar signs, because you want the dollar sign to get to the shell, but Make itself will eat the first one, so send two of them to get one out to the shell.) You know one great way to learn make? in ports, directory Mk, is a bunch of make template files, and the one named bsd.port.mk is a fantastic doument that clearly illustrates just about every good method that's available in BSD's make. BSD's make is a very, very good one, too. Greatly different than the GNU make. _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 19:17:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3C316A41A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A0B13C4A7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lABJGFuK070257; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:16:16 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <473754FF.6010304@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:16:15 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Boosten References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> <4243.192.168.13.35.1194803608.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <4243.192.168.13.35.1194803608.squirrel@www.boosten.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:16:16 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4749/Sun Nov 11 14:32:53 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Peter Boosten wrote: > On Sun, November 11, 2007 15:43, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: >> On 14:03:29 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of traffic >>> with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP addresses, like >>> online radio? >>> >> Yes. >> >> >> Not altq(It is for QoS). >> > > the OpenBSD site mentiones 'Class Based Queueing' on this page: > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/queueing.html > > There's some 'example' that userB might get 250K for 'audio', however the > entire page fails to explain how this could be done. Maybe someone on this > list got it running... If you can identify the traffic by the means available to you provided by pf(4) then, yes certainly you can use ALTQ or other means to control the bandwidth permitted for that traffic. It's a big /if/ however. pf(4) works at layers 2 and 3 -- that is, it looks only at packet headers -- MAC addresses, IP addresses TCP flags etc. It knows nothing of the protocol specific stuff that requires inspection of packet contents. In general, in order to control traffic by inspection of packet contents you will need to implement some sort of protocol specific proxy. I'm afraid I know virtually nothing of the sort of protocols used to transmit on-line radio, but I'm assuming that they are of more general use than just on-line radio -- so you need to inspect the contents in order to distinguish exactly what it is. (By analogy: you couldn't just block all web traffic because most it is legitimate, but you can block images containing substantial areas of skin tones...) So your question now becomes two: * What software is available to proxy this on-line radio traffic? and * Can I distinguish the on-line radio traffic from other uses of the same protocol? Without a bit more information about exactly what you're dealing with, it is impossible for those questions to be answered. However, given that you can identify the appropriate proxy software, you can possibly use pf(4) to implement transparent proxying. There are any number of articles on the web about transparent proxying of HTTP traffic with squid and pf that Google can find for you. By adapting that approach you may be able to apply the same concept to your traffic. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHN1T/8Mjk52CukIwRCHDPAJ4pUM9QwuDjGXF+w4Lo/4ftDGvQrACfVj/Y //yMhiUZM/m+ycRnVR3Ky7E= =tcZO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 19:17:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B8616A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QE=764654db@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A5C13C4AC for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QE=764654db@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11DD3163F86 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05283D0501 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:47:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:47:22 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111184722.5d260114@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <846921.73269.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <846921.73269.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ' Openssl.cnf ' and ' .rand ' file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:17:08 -0000 On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:22:10 -0800 (PST) White Hat wrote: > openssl 0.9.7e-p1 25 Oct 2004 > > I have not been able to find an answer to this question on Google, so > I figured I had better ask it here. > In the '/etc/ssl/openssl.cnf' file, there is an entry for: > > RANDFILE = $dir/private/.rand # private random number file > > Well, that file does not exist. I cannot find it anywhere on my > system and I have not been able to figure out how to create it. It's in the CA section so it's only used if you are signing keys. Normally openssl reads and write entropy to ~/.rnd, which creates it itself. I guess the above setting is just there to allow a different file for signing - perhaps in a more secure location. I would think these files are normally redundant since FreeBSD manages entropy itself. 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( [24.18.73.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm3191472qbe.2007.11.11.11.40.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:40:44 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4736C6F1.4030308@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <4D07F1BA-F6C2-473F-89C6-E760FD770313@gmail.com> <4736C6F1.4030308@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6345B48D-949A-4044-BA85-7628EE3F83DD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: futuristick Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:40:43 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: apache13-modperl problem: mod_dir, mod_mime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:41:03 -0000 Thank you! I have located modules in /usr/local/libexec/apache and have added them in the correct order to my httpd.conf. However, apache does not want to start. sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache start yields Starting apache with no errors, yet sockstat -4 reveals that httpd is not running. My httpd.pid file is in a directory which is owned by the user and group apache should run under (www/www). ServerType standalone ServerRoot "/usr/local" PidFile /var/run/apache/httpd.pid ScoreBoardFile /var/run/apache/httpd.scoreboard ResourceConfig /dev/null AccessConfig /dev/null Port 3000 User www Group www ServerAdmin me@email.com UseCanonicalName Off ServerSignature Off HostnameLookups Off ServerTokens Prod My firewall script allows binding to port 3000, so I'm at a loss here. On Nov 11, 2007, at 1:10 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > futuristick wrote: > >> I have installed apache13-modperl from ports because I want to run a >> simple photoblog. However, there was no 'make config' option for >> modules, and here is the output of httpd -l: >> >> Compiled-in modules: >> http_core.c >> mod_so.c >> mod_perl.c >> suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/sbin/suexec >> >> I don't understand why mod_dir and mod_mime aren't installed by >> default. >> How can I serve pages without these? How can I get these modules >> installed? (I don't know where, if any, the .so files might be). > > Not having an OPTIONS dialog is just a symptom of the age of the > port and that the possibility of implementing such a thing has not > yet risen to the top of the maintainer's TODO list. OPTIONS are not > mandatory in the ports system -- you can still use the original and > in some circumstances superior method of defining compilation flags > on the command line or (more usefully) in /etc/make.conf > > However, the only way to find out what flags are available is by > looking at what the Makefile provides. In the case of apache13-modssl > the Makefile is really rather complex, but the maintainer has > provided some handy documentation of what can be tweaked: > > % cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl > % make pre-fetch > > As it transpires, the apache13-modssl port doesn't give you a > huge amount of flexibility as to how the module load is configured. > There are about 4 -- 5 optional modules you can enable or disable > completely, most of which I doubt you'll have any need for, although > suexec is possibly an exception that you may want. > > Otherwise you get the default setup from the Apache configuration > system as invoked with the following flags: > > --enable-module=most \ > --enable-module=auth_db \ > --enable-module=mmap_static \ > --disable-module=auth_dbm \ > --enable-shared=max \ > --enable-module=ssl \ > --enable-module=define \ > > That is, everything standard except experimental modules and > auth_dbm is > enabled, plus auth_db, mmap_static and ssl. Modules are configured > as loadable modules rather than compiled in. That gives you maximum > flexibility and maximum control over how large your apache processes > will grow but adds a layer of indirection to various pointer lookups > which will add a few percent to the time it takes to serve a page. > Unless you're trying to run your server at the absolute max, that is > almost definitely the correct choice. > > mod_dir and mod_mime are certainly installed and available as part of > the default package. Look in /usr/local/etc/libexec/apache to find > the > loadable modules themselves. Look at the 'LoadModule' lines in > /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf to see what is being loaded at > runtime > - -- the default is to load everything available. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > - -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHNsbx8Mjk52CukIwRCEzAAKCU8GVX/gj1eoqi4VAnJtZlj+Pp4wCfccLi > sch16WtyVVoq0bmrcQRBoJA= > =eX9t > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 19:54:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF6116A420 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67DE813C4BB for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:54:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57197AFE54F1; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:54:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.154.143] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrItJ-0000ll-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:54:45 +0100 Message-ID: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:55:18 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19oedKFxTedWeXNdAejDhdpDyRiKADIxpWncbOv XS+k8qFRliydHuV53leUp2xhuLnGkfcWnsKhATyyR9qaY+53yo VJg60aEr4= Cc: Subject: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:54:55 -0000 Look what happened to Beastie: http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 19:59:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B28216A4E0 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDC113C4B9 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so847793pyb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:59:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0+6V+zs8l1s4vTmHz/hw296S50BiteW7yeBj8Ke2YgM=; b=n6WTFjEhdCcJPz8rDSoYq4z58AO1dbYjC6oG8ipzZqgnIb+EOYh2x1PeSa5diPvwY3Y5aOgYUz9lMc3Pffb1DHUxGFQQPCkyn0jLWAEfMCa6aED9BqnpmFeyY911h5viKEJ0cwi2DKmoi1n6Plo+qcjNOOr7PJcTksn8hmws8ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UaXAVmYss72yH8qAJYFuOtEk8qreFlSRpksjxTH4h92axeo+vrvCLJiMR8Ixvxcm21J4SguCRu4FCe5gW4bEuM3Rh+rvUwBSJI9/LetAiB0W4U0s1UFnb/PpMwtTkSmmUzcXRjsNjnXXB20bgIynR3JoDhdKTSE6Hth7gLcYpfQ= Received: by 10.64.203.4 with SMTP id a4mr10634077qbg.1194811162495; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.107.3 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:59:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:59:22 -0500 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "Tino Engel" In-Reply-To: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:59:32 -0000 On Nov 11, 2007 3:55 PM, Tino Engel wrote: > Look what happened to Beastie: > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg Nice!!!! Can you produce an icon size one (or a powered by size one)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 20:13:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34F416A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (ms05.mailstreet2003.net [69.25.50.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEDE213C49D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:13:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:14:38 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB5B@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Beastie 3D-rendered Thread-Index: AcgknM2je3eQLhOpSU2cc91a8zB4mwAApv8A References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> From: "Chris Haulmark" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:13:28 -0000 >=20 > Look what happened to Beastie: >=20 > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg >=20 Very nice! It's my wallpaper now! Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 20:16:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B485A16A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from smtp.lamaiziere.net (net.lamaiziere.net [213.186.42.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B6F13C4B7 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patfbsd@davenulle.org) Received: from roxette.lamaiziere.net (unknown [77.192.6.103]) by smtp.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6832E11805C1 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:01:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from roxette.lamaiziere.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roxette.lamaiziere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 041974149 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:00:55 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:00:54 +0100 From: Patrick Lamaiziere To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20071111210054.090e0643@roxette.lamaiziere.net> Organization: /dave/nulle X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Support of Macbook Pro under FreeBSD 7 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:16:50 -0000 Hello, Could you tell me what is the state of the support of Macbook Pro under 7.0 ? (experimental, bad, good, very good ?) I've found http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook (so it seems good) but the new Macbook Pro is shipped with a NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT. Thanks in advance, regards. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 20:40:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED8B16A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mymailfloods@googlemail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B71713C4A6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mymailfloods@googlemail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1387148waf for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:39:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=WSyvQt4+hiEPtW44/WlV1xTbQVq13qL8nmz3w+JE4Sc=; b=DBkMKW/QMi/BSIeFUArx4fTTyQc7msRyQrO2Ju3dq9jNlv7+KkYWzbCcAivKPTQ9SUKJQlj1Pg7PPOW183hkRzfJraNruydhhucYW6j0fBhh8M5VlxhSGBcMlwbNRA5oMxWIdLk9XtmKIWqrLkYyP66TIGL0l/W6lznXIBVPe5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=E48XaBQ7vxgUwK5DlnJkomxeCyI1JitNWwQH/LXQR7tWh4n58vFXQOz3jli1F7JAzUIzNoKdwUnWszQu4uO4de+HChZZU5t6xavNQD4uExLSi/uKuEXDQH30Fakdmc8G5kwHMilDRcD2YQw31Qiy0Dl/4AD1TmYZiZ/3UtO2QX4= Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr103080wae.1194813596075; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:39:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.53.5 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:39:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:39:55 +0100 From: "Thomas Hobbes" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Synaptics Touchpad doesn't work on 64-bit FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:40:12 -0000 Hi, my Synaptics touchpad doesn't work on FreeBSD 200710 amd64. I've add hw.psm.synaptics_support=1 to my /boot/loader.conf and I've compiled x11-drivers/synaptics and x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse. My dmesg says: psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model Synaptics Touchpad, device ID 0 kldload: Unsupported file type kldload: Unsupported file type Xorg says: Synaptics Touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 10 nodes) Synaptics Touchpad The /dev/input/event* device nodes seem to be missing (EE) xf86OpenSerial: No Device specified. Synaptics driver unable to open device (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Synaptics Touchpad" The touchpad worked fine on FreeBSD 200710 i386. Does anybody know what to do? Best greetings Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 20:44:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C8616A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B6413C49D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065162383637; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:26:40 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711111126.44437.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Riccardo Giuntoli Subject: Re: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:44:29 -0000 On Sunday 11 November 2007, Riccardo Giuntoli said: > Hi there, > > i use proftpd as my ftp solution in other three production servers > with no problem. Last week we buy out fourth server, and i started > to install and configure FreeBSD as usual. After upgrade the > sources and the ports i've got: > > [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(106): uname -a > FreeBSD tsunami.chroot.eu 6.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #0: > Fri Nov 9 12:15:54 EST 2007 > taglio@tsunami.chroot.eu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TSUNAMI i386 > [taglio@tsunami ]/home/taglio(107): > > And i've installed proftpd: > > [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(107): proftpd -v > - ProFTPD Version 1.3.1 > [taglio@tsunami]/home/taglio(108): > > For an initial simple configuration with no vhosts i've edited > /usr/local/etc/proftpd.conf like this: > > [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(110): cat proftpd.conf > ServerName "Chroot tsunami hosting" > ServerType standalone > DefaultServer on > ScoreboardFile /var/run/proftpd.scoreboard > Port 21 > Umask 022 > MaxInstances 30 > User nobody > Group nogroup > DefaultRoot ~/www > AllowOverwrite on > > DenyAll > > TimeoutIdle 0 > TimeoutLinger 0 > TimeoutLogin 0 > TimeoutNoTransfer 0 > TimeoutSession 0 > TimeoutStalled 0 > [taglio@tsunami ]/usr/local/etc(111): > > and in /etc/pam.d/ftpd i've got this: > > [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(111): cat /etc/pam.d/ftpd > ftpd auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass > ftpd account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass > ftpd session required pam_permit.so > [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(112): > > After checking syntax and have started the proftpd daemon i've got > this problem : > > [taglio@tsunami]/usr/local/etc(112): ftp localhost > Trying 127.0.0.1... > Connected to localhost.chroot.eu. > 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection. > ftp> > > That i've got also on external interfaces. > > Can someone help me with some ideas? > > Thank you in advance, best regards, Riccardo Giuntoli Have you checked the following? FreeBSD ------- To use PAM with ProFTPD, you must edit /etc/pam.conf and add the following lines (if they are not already present): ftpd auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass ftpd account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass ftpd session required pam_permit.so In your proftpd.conf, you'll need to set AuthPAMConfig to 'ftpd'. PAM authentication should now work properly. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 20:48:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8F416A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461C513C48A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taglio@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so914675rvb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:48:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HC5OG/ROckLgF3HwYDODwwj0sodQDu4kKvSle2QOuzs=; b=eeJ5S+7o0PxCLsXayPmDY1O52kjYN3t6fKhcY4KWy15qivAclDKgB/1Y1Vw1eMeoazw4ZP3YynruclfaEkLBwDgFgYS1r6C3Q+UfsFy8UIO/uYwVZne0DdyDr/a4WFkXhrcnqB2ex1YL3RQxKnS+zOhXOaoyrloPu2hXmNseL80= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bXkI8F25ZxQJe63YGUW3upE1oBDaG6EVw2m1elu/vKN3++EmkQgq4/kRaiy5FZi29kA3MaUY6jL/bVOSeLD4NRQOpHy+AumB3g63yS/GWw3KXX9Yzb11omidI/+vlzbIXOn7QbXuJ+8uCQkD0fpw23OxK5vGrIPoU4rxTkPsp/g= Received: by 10.142.78.10 with SMTP id a10mr900144wfb.1194814101150; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.104.1 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:48:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <31fbaca90711111248i768821admf6d9a5f630235171@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:48:21 +0100 From: "Riccardo Giuntoli" To: "Beech Rintoul" In-Reply-To: <200711111126.44437.beech@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <31fbaca90711110424o51986759o9445fd367e7dca5b@mail.gmail.com> <200711111126.44437.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD pam.d proftpd problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:48:31 -0000 On Nov 11, 2007 9:26 PM, Beech Rintoul wrote: > >[snip] > > Have you checked the following? > > FreeBSD > ------- > > To use PAM with ProFTPD, you must edit /etc/pam.conf and add the > following lines (if they are not already present): > > ftpd auth required pam_unix.so try_first_pass > ftpd account required pam_unix.so try_first_pass > ftpd session required pam_permit.so > > In your proftpd.conf, you'll need to set AuthPAMConfig to 'ftpd'. PAM > authentication should now work properly. Hi Beech, thank you for answer. I've just try it but it doesn't work. always same error "421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection". It's very strange cause i use other two ProFTPD with freebsd, 1.3.1rc1 on 5.5-STABLE and a 1.3.1rc2 on 6.2-STABLE. > > Beech > Best Regards, Riccardo Giuntoli -- Name: Riccardo Giuntoli Email: taglio@gmail.com Homepage: http://www.luxoro.org/ Location: Genova, Italy PGP Key: 0x67123739 PGP Fingerprint: CE75 16B5 D855 842FAB54 FB5C DDC6 4640 6712 3739 Key server: hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 21:15:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0C016A419; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mail.itu.dk (pluto.itu.dk [130.226.142.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CB413C494; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.3]) by mail.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F0132CDA0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:15:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at itu.dk Received: from superman.itu.dk ([130.226.142.5]) by localhost (daredevil.itu.dk [130.226.142.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RgB4Djy2359A; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:15:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by superman.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048059E657; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:15:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473770F6.6060305@cederstrand.dk> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:15:34 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <4735F154.5080105@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4735F154.5080105@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: port build order X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:15:57 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > How do I get a list of ports that need to be made before a port is > made given the following: > > Note: Sorry for the *CAPS* stuff but I am using my standard specs > formating > > 1. The list *MUST* be in build order with the first port either being > the first or last line (make missing or pkg_info search=XXX > display=bdeps,rdeps) > 2. If the package is already installed it *MUST NOT* appear on the list > > The goal here is for any given port I want to be able to build each > dependency one at a time (to do some testing) and I have found hand > tracing through the dependency list on the web site to be extremely > tedious I don't think there's anything which does exactly what you want, but you could start with 'make pretty-print-build/run-depends-list' and script your way through from there. Since what you're trying to do is what the ports infrastructure already does, you could always take a look at the code. bsd.ports.mk is what you want, I think. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 21:21:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B116A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1824713C48D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so881008pyb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:21:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=JmmUNmfj0OJsUMMuXI1VndoN1KfsJR5Vs1AoulomRoo=; b=gZM+lcPZn9RoAluG1XFRp1wiIdV6tKsHBu75C9m3lK/h7ykbEvhCpy+rKOAyYM5EMD8RSdchtxiQVF+ym1A2iM3XwoiCf3uHKg3Jl2Z+NfBlTa3BK8NLNCGs2XEzDb74k1wRwWOPheL5OTfsfOCbpplYEwTgVN8TB9ODfmvAHAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=LbKTyKQS2AG0vHVCc+ho88Lk3xTicFdaQi+KTYdymExzJmoKqpKcs5DnPadEp2zef5/Nr5mq1rT24uKeqJUfiJA3YvpHuZo6LzqQUP3gQEG8K/YZ9vfBmqsefO3dQYaCicvwQGF1eZPtbTSPaYMldhWNisfzgLL447IjY2NmOQQ= Received: by 10.35.12.10 with SMTP id p10mr5198338pyi.1194816098510; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f45sm8663001pyh.2007.11.11.13.21.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:21:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <53B52415C756A84E8A169F0E3673A3298B3A4E@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> References: <9a7b572639178c625b2a6d282db16eec@gmail.com> <53B52415C756A84E8A169F0E3673A3298B3A4E@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2f0c1f27f3e05fef09f3569d1146d025@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:21:36 -0600 To: "Andresen, Jason R." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: SATA DVD speed's too slow (Modified by Joshua Isom) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:21:57 -0000 On Nov 11, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Andresen, Jason R. wrote: > From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Isom >> >> Redirected from freebsd-questions after no reply. >> >> I currently have an SATA DVD-RW drive for my computer. I have to boot > >> using a CURRENT kernel to get the drive recognized, and dmesg lists it > >> as running at 3.3MB/s. Running mplayer -dumpstream gets around 3 megs > >> a second. Copying off a data dvd gets about the same. But I recall >> reading about playing a dvd before trying to get the data off of it >> when using dd, and it seems to work. But the odd part is, it can get >> up to 20 megabytes a second. Does anyone know how to get the higher >> speeds all the time? > > What you're probably seeing is a feature of how modern optical drives > work. Unlike the "4x" drives of old, the drive does not speed up or > slow down the disc based on the position of the head, instead they > maintain a fixed rotation speed. Because of this, the pits on the edge > of the disc move much faster than the ones near the center of the disc. > As you write to the disc you will see your speed increase as the laser > gets closer to the edge. Of course the drive manufacturers advertise > the speed of reading/writing the outermost track when selling the > drive. > I think you don't really notice some of the details. The kernel says the drive is only capable of 3.3M/s. Mplayer can dump a dvd at around 3.0M/s. If I "play" the dvd a little bit(just a few seconds), and then use dd to dump it, I can achieve three times the speed that the kernel says is possible. If I mount as UDF, I get around 3.0M/s. If I mount as cd9660, I get the higher speeds. I believe it is largely due to block size(too much time spent on read calls and protocols than reading data, as the speed can quickly triple when the reads are cut down to 10% of what they were). It seems to me as though the fastest ways for FreeBSD to copy DVD are to use dd or mount_cd9660, or else wait an excruciatingly long time. But, the drive is getting speeds far faster than the kernel lists it as capable of, and in gstat not even listing it as 100% busy. Here's a quick snapshot of gstat, using cp -R with the dvd mounted as cd9660. dT: 1.002s w: 1.000s filter: ^[a-z]+[0-9]+$ L(q) ops/s r/s kBps ms/r w/s kBps ms/w %busy Name 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| ad0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| cd0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| acd0 0 126 0 0 0.0 126 16096 1.6 19.9| ad4 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0.0 0.0| cd1 1 250 250 15968 3.5 0 0 0.0 87.3| acd1 The drive is reading five times faster than I can achieve with mplayer or a udf filesystem, and five times faster than the kernel says is possible. Is the drive initially lieing about it's speed and somehow sending an updated speed that's not being reported? Here's the product page for the drive. http://www.liteonit.com/global/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=67 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 21:31:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECC7216A418 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4B013C4B6 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lABLVOdW063433 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:24 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:31:33 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB5B@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220F4AEB5B@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711111531.33579.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:31:56 -0000 On Sunday 11 November 2007 02:14:38 pm Chris Haulmark wrote: > > Look what happened to Beastie: > > > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg > > Very nice! > > It's my wallpaper now! > > Chris heh, looks straight out of an animated show my son watches... jimmy neutron! :) a very interesting rendering of beastie, to say the least! -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 21:54:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7CA16A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB3E13C481 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lABLawFA001546; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (cicely12.cicely.de [10.1.1.14]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lABLapQO051114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: from cicely12.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lABLapp1029080; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso@cicely12.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely12.cicely.de (8.13.4/8.13.3/Submit) id lABLapnl029079; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:36:51 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071111213650.GV13508@cicely12.cicely.de> Mail-Followup-To: ticso@cicely.de, Tino Engel , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , de-bsd-questions@de.FreeBSD.org References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely12.cicely.de 5.4-STABLE alpha User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.215, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on cicely12.cicely.de Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.FreeBSD.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:54:15 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:55:18PM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > Look what happened to Beastie: > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg Wieso »teufel«.jpg ? -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de http://www.fizon.de bernd@bwct.de info@bwct.de support@fizon.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 22:11:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14DC416A41B for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830E013C494 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:11:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE5AAFED83E; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:11:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.154.143] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrL1U-0005Y0-00; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:11:20 +0100 Message-ID: <47378C39.5010600@web.de> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:11:53 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030006020504000800040701" Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX197tHf4D2mUDh5VEj03SzaU2/CkHQq+5Hzv5M8M SaUKKktfGRT0x9Fo7lwC7/etUwqPMnm6gasJPvp/2nc1ZjIY1b ws4Yiy1Qw= X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:11:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030006020504000800040701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aryeh Friedman schrieb: > On Nov 11, 2007 3:55 PM, Tino Engel wrote: > >> Look what happened to Beastie: >> >> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg >> > > Nice!!!! Can you produce an icon size one (or a powered by size one)? > > > Here you go with the icon...(Attachment) I think I didn't make it to get the white background transparent as it would be nice for an icon. Maybe someone who knows how to do it, can do it, otherwise I'll play around sometimes in this week. Greez, Tino --------------030006020504000800040701-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 22:20:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6090C16A46E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:20:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (smtpproxy1.mitre.org [192.160.51.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F5113C4A8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jandrese@mitre.org) Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with SMTP id lABJK5RS017343 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:20:05 -0500 Received: from smtp-bedford.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99D5BF01 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:20:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from imcfe2.MITRE.ORG (imcfe2.mitre.org [129.83.29.4]) by smtp-bedford.mitre.org (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lABJK58w017334; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:20:05 -0500 Received: from IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.20.237]) by imcfe2.MITRE.ORG with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:20:05 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: <53B52415C756A84E8A169F0E3673A3298B3A4E@IMCSRV6.MITRE.ORG> In-Reply-To: <9a7b572639178c625b2a6d282db16eec@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SATA DVD speed's too slow (Modified by Joshua Isom) Thread-Index: Acgj/YUkQ7NfeNGCRBSsgG4nx3AAqgAmbUkg References: <9a7b572639178c625b2a6d282db16eec@gmail.com> From: "Andresen, Jason R." To: "Joshua Isom" , "freebsd-questions Questions" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2007 19:20:05.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD549A30:01C82497] Cc: Subject: RE: SATA DVD speed's too slow (Modified by Joshua Isom) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:20:13 -0000 From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Isom > >Redirected from freebsd-questions after no reply. > >I currently have an SATA DVD-RW drive for my computer. I have to boot >using a CURRENT kernel to get the drive recognized, and dmesg lists it >as running at 3.3MB/s. Running mplayer -dumpstream gets around 3 megs >a second. Copying off a data dvd gets about the same. But I recall=20 >reading about playing a dvd before trying to get the data off of it=20 >when using dd, and it seems to work. But the odd part is, it can get=20 >up to 20 megabytes a second. Does anyone know how to get the higher=20 >speeds all the time? What you're probably seeing is a feature of how modern optical drives work. Unlike the "4x" drives of old, the drive does not speed up or slow down the disc based on the position of the head, instead they maintain a fixed rotation speed. Because of this, the pits on the edge of the disc move much faster than the ones near the center of the disc. As you write to the disc you will see your speed increase as the laser gets closer to the edge. Of course the drive manufacturers advertise the speed of reading/writing the outermost track when selling the drive. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 22:26:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F83616A41B; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.t-hosting.hu (server.t-hosting.hu [81.2.252.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EEF13C48D; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4053CA4A9EB; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:25:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.t-hosting.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.t-hosting.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5FDIxJnZb+xv; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:25:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.186] (catv-5063f539.catv.broadband.hu [80.99.245.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.t-hosting.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB32A4A9C0; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:25:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47378163.7010400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:25:39 +0100 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <47378C39.5010600@web.de> In-Reply-To: <47378C39.5010600@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, aryeh.friedman@gmail.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:26:08 -0000 Tino Engel escribió: > Aryeh Friedman schrieb: >> On Nov 11, 2007 3:55 PM, Tino Engel wrote: >> >>> Look what happened to Beastie: >>> >>> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg >>> >> >> Nice!!!! Can you produce an icon size one (or a powered by size one)? >> >> >> > Here you go with the icon...(Attachment) > I think I didn't make it to get the white background transparent as it > would be nice for an icon. > Maybe someone who knows how to do it, can do it, otherwise I'll play > around sometimes in this week. We haven't received it, because the list filters attachments. Coud you perhaps upload it to your site, too? Anyway, do you offer these for free use? Maybe we could put it to some part of our website? Some time ago, a FreeBSD user posted some great CD artworks to the lists and I remember there was some legal questions to arrange due to the FreeBSD text on the graphics before we could have addes them to our site, but the topic slowly disappeared and nothing happened. It's a pity that good stuff disappear and only leave some track in the archives, so I'm trying to get the chance to save this one for the wide community now. Please tell your opinions. Also, doc@ added to CC list. Cheers, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 22:56:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8D016A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF1C13C4A8 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lABMtol6043401 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:55:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lABMtoXT043400 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:55:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:55:50 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071111225550.GA42346@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: CD's and fonts.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:56:05 -0000 After many tries , my secoond burner finally opopened a CD full of hundreds of TTF fonts. I don't know how to use the graphics widget to move the contents of /media/cdrom/1 to <> so that all these fonts are usable by both AbiWord and OOo-2.3. (On my Ubuntu platform I used the command line to copy from /cdrom/*.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/. ) I am using the OOo font wizard to install the few M$ free fonts, but sem to be missing BASIC. [[???]]. At any rate, any tips or insights would be very much appreciated here. tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 23:28:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E17716A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E119013C48E for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:28:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lABNRkiZ071395 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:27:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:27:55 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:28:17 -0000 is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within the OS? im trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling the thing from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata drives, not on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable of pulling the drive info). thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 23:38:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CC016A468 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA3313C4B3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so934239pyb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:38:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CY3+ScjEysh/PwKX54wXkid3dUku08i8K9+yPPmdN9w=; b=B3grJOgHK4NHYVHWhRieHJctk4P/HS725hxUEP35WnkLV7idvHcyRqsp1gcima+hMOXJE57LM1NwhmUh36Td9dh9fx56+iM/Q95g7YLadnry8/9dWiCgwT8fmmIECwC2imqqU6yZPKOGjL5DVyFPPhwnMTp0pktKMfmIgKk6TcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sRQQqo3xV1PRor7vJ2ZSFvZfn3co/qytLWDzLv04Ya69Tf+658NWjRxJlTqGp6rci2CtI0v9TjxkEngZ19bNVZ0zcszqFrVwdO7t8biFDPYtW6bDTvN5pNcmpWkQ1LHSCVfxjhDXo1tQ++ExP27JAEvW5W/QAnyKyX2wezEgehE= Received: by 10.35.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr5301282pyl.1194824288620; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:38:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.57.12 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:38:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:38:08 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:38:27 -0000 > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within the OS? im > trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling the thing > from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata drives, not > on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable of pulling > the drive info). Check dmesg (or /var/run/dmesg.boot). The serial number should show, e.g.: ad8: 381553MB at ata4-master SATA150 Thanks, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 23:48:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42B6116A419 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C4C13C49D for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2007 18:48:47 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JHZ04462; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:48:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2007 18:47:44 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18231.38110.579658.383456@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:48:46 -0500 To: josh.carroll@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:48:57 -0000 Josh Carroll writes: > > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from > > within the OS? > > Check dmesg (or /var/run/dmesg.boot). The serial number should > show, e.g.: > > ad8: 381553MB at ata4-master SATA150 That's the _model_ number, not the _serial_ number, yes? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 11 23:53:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD5716A417 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408AF13C48A for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:56276 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IrMby-0003dm-6S for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:53:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 16470 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 00:52:54 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2007 00:52:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 9750 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Nov 2007 00:52:54 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:52:54 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Josh Carroll Message-ID: <20071111235254.GA9679@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Josh Carroll , Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1IrMby-0003dm-6S. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1IrMby-0003dm-6S a39b3c9f196c85db889602dd9d45ed83 Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:53:30 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:38:08PM -0500, Josh Carroll wrote: > > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within the OS? im > > trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling the thing > > from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata drives, not > > on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable of pulling > > the drive info). > > Check dmesg (or /var/run/dmesg.boot). The serial number should show, e.g.: > > ad8: 381553MB at ata4-master SATA150 That is not the serial number, that is just the disk model and the firmware revision. The serial number can (for ATA/SATA) disks be shown with atacontrol(8) (e.g. "atacontrol cap ad4") or with smartctl(8) from the sysutils/smartmontools port (supports both ATA/SATA and SCSI disks) (e.g. smartctl -a /dev/ad4) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 00:11:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713F516A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2663113C4B3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:11:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAC0BHmt072265; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:11:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: Josh Carroll , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:11:26 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> <20071111235254.GA9679@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20071111235254.GA9679@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711111811.27053.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Cc: Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:11:39 -0000 On Sunday 11 November 2007 05:52:54 pm Erik Trulsson wrote: > The serial number can (for ATA/SATA) disks be shown with atacontrol(8) > (e.g. "atacontrol cap ad4") or with smartctl(8) from the > sysutils/smartmontools port (supports both ATA/SATA and SCSI disks) > (e.g. smartctl -a /dev/ad4) thank you sir, that was exactly what i needed. cheers, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 00:26:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D95E16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.rudolph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFB213C4AA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.rudolph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so841262nfb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:26:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=dqPQTW64zM3Qw9331trDZR2OpEVlav1nLSC1I4Ay4NI=; b=TPZTWhTyumsB65cqocTcBQLAlP9xhFt93T+PyJYwu7z7F0X7FJTzFjVK3tZl0X2nPuvNSYnXDCCNXTIsr6USJGl8ue50cm3jfC6so7DyK8DvdaMHa9jUlcjKp/3iK9r3BPN0pSd9Tw9TDWzxYlFl7SC4TrQH0fxS/bovfRFp0lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=msFrJkfL7YFXySY0Uepz64NKtelHteSgwp9nj0AO247Ikwooygvll4F8skI9555b/0tY9Upm/ytXcVCQkDOrxmVaTFfMfhSP+GRKqdkKyw0F219PhvVzK+fmRg1ugexgnb3HFzpEAqfeNTZIt+CfoiUUQ6eXmQot1ddxi1P+eRg= Received: by 10.86.73.17 with SMTP id v17mr4018980fga.1194825500316; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from noname ( [87.176.6.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2188433fgg.2007.11.11.15.58.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Rudolph To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:58:13 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20071111225550.GA42346@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071111225550.GA42346@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711120058.15259.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: CD's and fonts.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:26:55 -0000 On Sunday 11 November 2007 23:55:50 Gary Kline wrote: > After many tries , my secoond burner finally opopened a CD full > of hundreds of TTF fonts. I don't know how to use the graphics > widget to move the contents of /media/cdrom/1 to <> > so that all these fonts are usable by both AbiWord and OOo-2.3. > (On my Ubuntu platform I used the command line to copy from > /cdrom/*.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/. ) > > I am using the OOo font wizard to install the few M$ free fonts, > but sem to be missing BASIC. [[???]]. At any rate, any tips or > insights would be very much appreciated here. > > tia, > > gary Hi Gary, as far as I know, you are using KDE, which makes things pretty easy. You can just use Konqueror to browse to your fonts and use the appropriate option in the context menu to install the selected fonts. If you want to do the font installation by hand, as you described, you have to make sure that X is aware of the directory where your font files reside and that the directory is properly prepared. This is best described in the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html I hope that helps. michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 00:56:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9559016A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045A413C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:55:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.nethamilton.net (CPE-72-135-240-24.wi.res.rr.com [72.135.240.24]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAC0kmZG007859; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:47:19 -0600 (CST) Received: by woodstock.nethamilton.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id E597A25C549F; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:54:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:54:07 -0600 From: Jon Hamilton To: Josh Carroll Message-ID: <20071112005407.GA1736@woodstock.nethamilton.net> References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:56:02 -0000 Josh Carroll , said on Sun Nov 11, 2007 [06:38:08 PM]: } > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within the OS? im } > trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling the thing } > from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata drives, not } > on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable of pulling } > the drive info). } } Check dmesg (or /var/run/dmesg.boot). The serial number should show, e.g.: } } ad8: 381553MB at ata4-master SATA150 That's a model number, not a serial number. I'm not sure if there's a simpler way, but smartctl (from the smartmontools port/package) will display a disk's serial number. [602] root@woodstock tmp$ smartctl -a /dev/ad0 | grep -i serial Serial Number: 9QG386BV There's probably a better way, but this should at least work. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 00:57:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB0316A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidn04@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA7413C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidn04@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so524739wra for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:56:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OnMbEjFG3M/egr6vrb2UJxQVS+ut3a8LkyAKkzVm2OU=; b=QQ2CGTEV58VEn02jczn8MO9eGIFW6XZoNjcPj87n/o2DWMFHILr252/j4iPs9skk8++kUCTuxisczM6w0xNwprhqC54FKWTooMEhVmHs2DZpfD3+QVErHT0qKvcgR/85WAcGgwbTpqxnuZlFbn+vBBJqaCEwS9XzYom+aaVpOwU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Wu4izxbe70vOVRtkml+Ea9M06FDQ0Yyx3rmMWJghDlOqPDpUxZpef/a2RV5eqRxcDzpj87ZmoCmfN0NAYU2imbM6oICJdP2yW+sq+0rcy5fgL5piQ0LyFoJFk81iY9cp20bSCkwpPtQ0wMp6GnQPmnXccLhjuSn9rxJLCWtGJkM= Received: by 10.70.40.12 with SMTP id n12mr351210wxn.1194825123016; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.32.16 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4d7dd86f0711111552k3e26df03k3a6e7406d56b3603@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:52:02 +1100 From: "David N" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:57:10 -0000 On 12/11/2007, Jonathan Horne wrote: > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within the OS? im > trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling the thing > from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata drives, not > on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable of pulling > the drive info). > > thanks, > -- > Jonathan Horne > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org > freebsd@dfwlp.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Check out smartmonstools in /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools then smartctl -a /dev/ads4 (or what ever your drive is) === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 and 7200.7 Plus family Device Model: ST3160827AS Serial Number: Firmware Version: 3.42 User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show] ATA Version is: 6 ATA Standard is: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2 Local Time is: Mon Nov 12 10:48:30 2007 EST SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === David N From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 01:02:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4660D16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DCA13C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so966838pyb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:01:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ET0A9zlZGDbUFq4EQH0skbSA/g6iRaGB2V0KAaD0jAY=; b=ndXgjxytaB9xG2iNpPj4KyFxtmuAGINiVN38sGjSsWbpbCG/y7Vvnxc3XqElowHMoVG9DDoJjZRwbnlJp5fZmvCj0x4gzQHzKXigH7jFcbC2YMsJPVTSD4/TBtGfRN87P7ZSA847KYjksaU2P6qLCzXFBi5myjo4odHOcoo1gmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fNzqskOq+ptE4YeEM6PDlAOOPeSfYmqenUHkPvGIE/LnVnXSchSvytLRrzTqfjwgtYzJgt5qn09gFbsJUpD9wDeMjOphvpHIh/tbBMF2EpF2vN73vrsLwpsmizvYzBUcqpDAed9zBIhjzG6nVhQxDd7yydtx5jtBSyYj7y1SdSA= Received: by 10.35.96.6 with SMTP id y6mr5380655pyl.1194828873118; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.57.12 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:54:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0711111654k1012ad9am97f453fd0b30800@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:54:33 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Robert Huff" In-Reply-To: <18231.38110.579658.383456@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> <18231.38110.579658.383456@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:02:00 -0000 > That's the _model_ number, not the _serial_ number, yes? Oops. Indeed. I misread the question. :/ Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 01:07:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EADEA16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from mtai02.charter.net (mtai02.charter.net [209.225.8.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F74B13C480 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mtai02.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20071112010727.HTDO28.mtai02.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:07:27 -0500 Received: from robs-laptop.com ([71.85.241.27]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071112010727.QDUR17353.aarprv04.charter.net@robs-laptop.com>; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:07:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4737A74E.30709@charter.net> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:07:26 -0600 From: icantthinkofone User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <4734D8B0.1060200@riderway.com> <4734DA4C.90702@riderway.com> <47351141.4090209@charter.net> <473660A4.9080501@web.de> In-Reply-To: <473660A4.9080501@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:07:52 -0000 Tino Engel wrote: > icantthinkofone wrote: >> Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >>> Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >>> >>>> John wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've been struggling to get a handle on the FreeBSD system. >>>>> Making good >>>>> progress, but then I ran into the fact that Firefox on FreeBSD >>>>> can't do >>>>> flash. Definite showstopper, for me. Ok, then I tried to use the >>>>> linuxpluginwrapper approach, and it didn't work. >>>>> >>>>> It made me recall, in reading up on FreeBSD, I did see where somebody >>>>> installed both Firefox and Linx-firefox. >>>>> >>>>> So before I do battle with this Linux wrapper approach, I wondered >>>>> if I >>>>> would be better off simply installing the Linux-firefox? >>>>> >>>>> Is that easier? More likely to work? >>>>> >>>> http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/questions/2007-07/msg01919.html >>>> >>>> >>> ----> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc6 ; make install clean >>> >>> There is now: >>> cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-f7 ; make install clean >>> which you should use instead -- its newer :) >>> >>> >>> >> btw, you don't need both native and Linux Firefox. Native Firefox an >> do flash just fine. >> _______________________________________________ > Well, how can it? I cannot build linuxpluginwrapper, it alway fails > saying: > ===> linuxpluginwrapper-20051113_8 doesn't support ELF symbol > versioning, yet.. > *** Error code 1 > I > I am using RELENG_7 on i386. > > How to install flash with native Firefox: portinstall nspluginwrapper portinstall linux-flashplugin7 portinstall linux-gtk2 There should be no need to set anything in firefox, you should simply run nspluginwrapper -a -v -i as the user who will be using FF, open it, and the plugins should be there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 01:11:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBE916A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8C413C491 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2007 20:09:09 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JHZ18519; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2007 20:08:06 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18231.42932.352721.726895@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:09:08 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: can't think of program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:11:28 -0000 There is a program out there that will allow you to run a child program, read what it sends to stdout, and feed things to stdin using a script-like language. I am blanking on the name of this program, My mind says it should be "expect", but that's not right. Help. Please. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 01:41:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C23916A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:41:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CB313C4AC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:41:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) id lAC1fNuF030524; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:41:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:41:23 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20071112014123.GF72824@dan.emsphone.com> References: <18231.42932.352721.726895@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18231.42932.352721.726895@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't think of program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:41:34 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 11), Robert Huff said: > There is a program out there that will allow you to run a child > program, read what it sends to stdout, and feed things to stdin using > a script-like language. > I am blanking on the name of this program, My mind says it > should be "expect", but that's not right. Trust your mind :) It's expect. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 02:29:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A1A16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:29:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA7713C4B5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:29:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.187]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAD8168750B; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:09:19 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.187]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 97833-09; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:09:12 -0400 (AST) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-137-93-67.eastlink.ca [24.137.93.67]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762C3168751A; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:09:18 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960D633C73; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:09:22 -0400 (AST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:08:51 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Tino Engel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org Message-ID: <092E48E55C67FD0EE86716CF@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:29:17 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Sunday, November 11, 2007 20:55:18 +0000 Tino Engel wrote: > Look what happened to Beastie: > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg Reminds me of a character from one of my kids tv shows ... cute :) - ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHN7Wz4QvfyHIvDvMRAuihAJ9qxZEQWwhIIQ9XUK8PImh/mLGYaACgplTG xg3prmyWjmN1vUq27wLWh7Y= =+H8d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 02:38:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FA916A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EB113C4A7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAC2bkHJ044598; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:37:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lAC2bktL044597; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:37:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:37:46 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Michael Rudolph Message-ID: <20071112023746.GA44553@thought.org> References: <20071111225550.GA42346@thought.org> <200711120058.15259.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200711120058.15259.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD's and fonts.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:38:00 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:58:13AM +0100, Michael Rudolph wrote: > On Sunday 11 November 2007 23:55:50 Gary Kline wrote: > > After many tries , my secoond burner finally opopened a CD full > > of hundreds of TTF fonts. I don't know how to use the graphics > > widget to move the contents of /media/cdrom/1 to <> > > so that all these fonts are usable by both AbiWord and OOo-2.3. > > (On my Ubuntu platform I used the command line to copy from > > /cdrom/*.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/. ) > > > > I am using the OOo font wizard to install the few M$ free fonts, > > but sem to be missing BASIC. [[???]]. At any rate, any tips or > > insights would be very much appreciated here. > > > > tia, > > > > gary > > Hi Gary, > > as far as I know, you are using KDE, which makes things pretty easy. You > can just use Konqueror to browse to your fonts and use the appropriate > option in the context menu to install the selected fonts. > > If you want to do the font installation by hand, as you described, you > have to make sure that X is aware of the directory where your font > files reside and that the directory is properly prepared. This is best > described in the handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.html > > I hope that helps. > > michael Well, your handbook URL helped, :-) ... I have in bookmarked in konq. I pointed the browser at the CDROM but there were too many files--hundred--and the browser choked. I'm not sure if I can do a CLI cp -rp from the disk, so I'm **trying** to figure out how to use these GUI tools. If you , or anyone else, would be so kind as too explain how to copy one file or multiple files or a directory and its subdirectories from (say) /media/cdrom/1 to /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, I would be much obliged. Typing a single string in an xterm seems lots easier than doing it by file-manager. ... thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 03:14:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5EB16A421 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E74A13C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 22468 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2007 21:14:03 -0600 Received: from 124-170-0-162.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.0.162) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 11 Nov 2007 21:14:03 -0600 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:13:50 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Dan Nelson Message-ID: <20071112141350.31799437@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <20071112014123.GF72824@dan.emsphone.com> References: <18231.42932.352721.726895@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20071112014123.GF72824@dan.emsphone.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't think of program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:14:39 -0000 On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:41:23 -0600 Dan Nelson wrote: > > I am blanking on the name of this program, My mind says it > > should be "expect", but that's not right. > > Trust your mind :) It's expect. which is part of the ports tree: /usr/ports/lang/expect $ cat /usr/ports/lang/expect/pkg-descr Expect is a program that performs programmed dialogue with other interactive programs. It is briefly described by its man page, expect(1). It uses pseudo-tty's to control the child processes, so it is not affected by programs that refuse to read from stdin or pipes. (eg: passwd(1) etc). WWW: http://expect.nist.gov/ FAQ: http://expect.nist.gov/FAQ.html _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome Unix is user friendly. However, it isn't idiot friendly. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 04:05:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1839E16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:05:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A40C113C491 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 94227 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Nov 2007 04:04:33 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.291115 secs); 12 Nov 2007 04:04:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 04:04:26 -0000 Message-ID: <4737D0D3.9040502@ibctech.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:04:35 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> In-Reply-To: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:05:00 -0000 Tino Engel wrote: > Look what happened to Beastie: > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg COOL!!! Can I use it?!? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 04:07:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7B116A421 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EC313C4FF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 94439 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.480688 secs); 12 Nov 2007 04:06:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 04:06:41 -0000 Message-ID: <4737D159.4080304@ibctech.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:06:49 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <092E48E55C67FD0EE86716CF@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <092E48E55C67FD0EE86716CF@ganymede.hub.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, Tino Engel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:07:01 -0000 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > --On Sunday, November 11, 2007 20:55:18 +0000 Tino Engel wrote: > >> Look what happened to Beastie: > >> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg > > Reminds me of a character from one of my kids tv shows ... cute :) It's much better than what we have! What license does it fall under? What do the elders think? Yay BSDie! Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 05:44:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8526216A421 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:44:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnjgsmith@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5BF13C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:44:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnjgsmith@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so2739463hub for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:44:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=r3ob+7HiKnQXR5XC4M9onRNNclRd6NLxRlGjwu7abFw=; b=hyab6zEJb/1lHUQ6w9g1Y0GTtTnMUipTmMUlMyH5xjcDLjQpWf2Yrp8MEeJBs+U6173LpcIzNQSx+59A817D1JWE27kdKK2fA57KlXxOvoXp0KleNY719HoEYzeniB8LVFAVaFmwm+v2VQn6LJ7KEpIlTJFrQrkau/ANHv5d1rg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W3AxCGzHMAjyqfsiQ+PT0wpbWf0mktDvQLBUg3ss1UK3pUBnf470snQagOm5YuUTB4j0dk6IYQQBGVNMZizkoa6+Vs+cgABD/e+9WiBLv6fUeAadE0WVonqkscaUw25xD2T2k9RoVBmzMwuU13i9HBxu4wCOwaXkHhgbxGQcs6c= Received: by 10.82.114.3 with SMTP id m3mr10648297buc.1194846275224; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.182.17 with HTTP; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:44:35 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:44:35 -0600 From: "John Smith" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071110231057.GB90426@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071110154011.GB2060@kobe.laptop> <20071110230535.GA90426@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20071110231057.GB90426@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Cc: Subject: Re: nanobsd, picobsd, tinybsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:44:53 -0000 Thanks, guys, for the information. This is really helpful. Giorgos, just apologizing that I used the word "level-headed". In hindsight "more informative" would have been more appropriate. I'm currently using PC-BSD - and the journey so far has been tremendous. Happy to be part of the BSD world ;-) On Nov 10, 2007 5:10 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 06:05:35PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 03:45:30PM -0600, John Smith wrote: > > > > > I'd expected a more level headed reply from this FreeBSD list. How is > > > a newbie supposed to know the differenced and how can I test this if I > > > don't have a spare machine? > > > > > > My question was more out of interest. This mailing list is called > > > FreeBSD-Questions, so why can't I asked a reasonable question and > > > expect a reasonable reply...? > > > > Because, like the software creation, the responses on the questions > > list are done by volunteers. You happened to get one who seemed > > to need to respond, but didn't have any information to respond with. > > Didn't notice who had made that response. It was by someone who would > really know, but was still unfortunately short on information. > > ////jerry > > > > > > > You will probably also get some more useful responses. (Sorry, I > > don't know much about nano, tiny or pico BSD except that those words > > tend to be used to imply very small) > > > > Of course, you could try to experiment. You could try dual-booting > > the machine you have and put those on the other part. > > > > ////jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 10, 2007 9:40 AM, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > > On 2007-11-09 17:01, John Smith wrote: > > > > > Can anybody please explain to my what the differences are between > > > > > nanobsd, picobsd and tinybsd. > > > > > > > > > > They all seem to be doing the same (creating a minimal FreeBSD image > > > > > that can be used in embedded systems), or is this not right? > > > > > > > > What don't you experiment with them, and see? :) > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 05:47:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5493916A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1278713C4A7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:47:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F321CADEB910; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.12] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrS8T-0005Mz-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:01 +0100 Message-ID: <4737F707.2070907@web.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:35 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <092E48E55C67FD0EE86716CF@ganymede.hub.org> <4737D159.4080304@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4737D159.4080304@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/TtAVqRJTAHu6kL8Fvto9I4g292hhsaOfWya3m JBbDgO1WgbEqe5ucvy9fMIVSAD/IO0xTqTApQDsGXc9E5D9JWL CIgODHsq0= Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:47:14 -0000 Steve Bertrand schrieb: > Marc G. Fournier wrote: > >> --On Sunday, November 11, 2007 20:55:18 +0000 Tino Engel wrote: >> >> >>> Look what happened to Beastie: >>> >>> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg >>> >> Reminds me of a character from one of my kids tv shows ... cute :) >> > > It's much better than what we have! > > What license does it fall under? > > What do the elders think? > > Yay BSDie! > > Steve > > Well, a couple of people think, I made this rendering. That is wrong... I just found it... (I NEVER mentioned having made it...) Though I do not know what license it falls under... I just wanted you to see it, cause I regarded it as beautiful... Nevertheless I can try to check out the license issues... Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 05:50:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FF316A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A0713C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C42AB003064; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:50:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.12] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrSBT-0005nB-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4737F7C0.2020407@web.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:50:40 +0000 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <47378C39.5010600@web.de> <47378163.7010400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <47378163.7010400@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/PuOZRxNArDpOSQF++6hB7VhtMjiZ0xmaJsq6L KRdoAU0x4yvXgv3uLqoMGyCro8TdH7OOpW68bCOcJ2wKR1J/RP 2lsVvJ0Xk= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, aryeh.friedman@gmail.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:50:23 -0000 Gabor Kovesdan schrieb: > Tino Engel escribió: >> Aryeh Friedman schrieb: >>> On Nov 11, 2007 3:55 PM, Tino Engel wrote: >>> >>>> Look what happened to Beastie: >>>> >>>> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg >>>> >>> >>> Nice!!!! Can you produce an icon size one (or a powered by size one)? >>> >>> >>> >> Here you go with the icon...(Attachment) >> I think I didn't make it to get the white background transparent as >> it would be nice for an icon. >> Maybe someone who knows how to do it, can do it, otherwise I'll play >> around sometimes in this week. > We haven't received it, because the list filters attachments. Coud you > perhaps upload it to your site, too? Anyway, do you offer these for > free use? Maybe we could put it to some part of our website? > > Some time ago, a FreeBSD user posted some great CD artworks to the > lists and I remember there was some legal questions to arrange due to > the FreeBSD text on the graphics before we could have addes them to > our site, but the topic slowly disappeared and nothing happened. It's > a pity that good stuff disappear and only leave some track in the > archives, so I'm trying to get the chance to save this one for the > wide community now. Please tell your opinions. Also, doc@ added to CC > list. > > Cheers, > Argh... This is neither my website nor my picture... I just found it and wanted to show it to you... Therefore the icon I created from it it only for private use... I did not mention having created it... Next time I'll point out when I just found sth. Nevertheless I can check out the author (he is german, too) and ask him about the license issues... Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 05:54:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E392116A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7880E13C491 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:54:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 98770 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Nov 2007 05:54:08 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.659231 secs); 12 Nov 2007 05:54:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 05:54:01 -0000 Message-ID: <4737EA82.9030705@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:54:10 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <092E48E55C67FD0EE86716CF@ganymede.hub.org> <4737D159.4080304@ibctech.ca> <4737F707.2070907@web.de> In-Reply-To: <4737F707.2070907@web.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:54:18 -0000 > Well, a couple of people think, I made this rendering. > That is wrong... I just found it... (I NEVER mentioned having made it...) > Though I do not know what license it falls under... > I just wanted you to see it, cause I regarded it as beautiful... > Nevertheless I can try to check out the license issues... LOL You post, and they will come... At least you are honest about it :) Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 06:04:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6807E16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DA713C48D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:04:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.189] (port=35388 helo=smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IrSPd-0007RD-Uf; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:45 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([213.51.103.48]:4881 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrSPd-00089A-JD; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:45 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEAB398B6; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.159.200.163 (proxying for 172.21.129.43) (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47602.212.159.200.163.1194847484.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <473754FF.6010304@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> <4243.192.168.13.35.1194803608.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <473754FF.6010304@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: "Matthew Seaman" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Peter Boosten Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:04:58 -0000 On Sun, November 11, 2007 20:16, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> >>> On 14:03:29 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of >>>> traffic with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP >>>> addresses, like online radio? >>>> > > If you can identify the traffic by the means available to you... [snip] > ..approach you may be able to apply the same concept to your traffic. > Thanks for your (good) answer, Matthew, I'll start a search for appropriate software then. Regards, Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 06:54:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643E416A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1D213C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1528134waf for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:54:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s5H4n92nIKwuwYIkN2iAQD3ZaiQxvkLqjQwa6CWgL6A=; b=b2lVgRvAXulX6/QN33cXkFgMm8H4xGIG1TQjJRQAuroOVJrT1hiyisQkFvVkB6wnwRxqpib5wS1MWB1rn2LZH+NT2IJV63stZMn9oUF1G5I1cdU+VGyORD4eJmSgB3NfZi+BaC3TnkoSfkgzwq6nWYyCG9WAJPUXsmnMxf75y54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IcoN9r2cGveQ2DS7kWcD6iRYDysm9O53QsM8yr9U6n1VgCJ3lWKqnBHdfwbJKEPCrBDa0uUdJBaBP1MVMPDxIhSHkYsDhlfPc0LBkCRj0Pl1U9pnt5J5gX3gw/0jFPbwUPd0L30fRVIEiV5I+36RuC/1oJd5Jiw72O8/mBhvVBo= Received: by 10.115.23.12 with SMTP id a12mr928192waj.1194846905994; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from p4 ( [66.75.108.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j39sm7108022waf.2007.11.11.21.55.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:55:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:55:01 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:54:26 -0000 Aloha FreeBSD Users I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well invested. YMMV http://xogiving.org/ Have a very good day Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 07:04:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8862316A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DF413C48D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAC745se026856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:04:05 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id lAC744lR082341; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:04:04 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:04:04 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: rmarella@gmail.com In-reply-to: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> (message from Robert Marella on Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:55:01 -1000) References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:28 -0000 > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > invested. YMMV > > http://xogiving.org/ That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 07:04:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE12816A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girish1729@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8A113C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girish1729@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1004626rvb for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:04:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; bh=9510apUrvMHPhjLI/xqnw1ZXZ5DT91okwulsXW6Wu2Y=; b=l70BjnCGovavu94sgM0kRakEhhEOrj3iN7pA2NV2YMAUQ4k4yHpdmx+X7NehioUuyfPSauITNcJ6P48ouOlc00QU8XoIN40JWiqt6YXO/xYrJkjcO556bSWOaj/HIN1M6JvRxeXd7elQ5ciLmohW5of4Ik/ThXvIafPZIty3Sac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:from; b=ZCLg/Q57kUdKAA/ihQ3jeZ1Od8pF95EuJaifT52GJhUUzZfo71GdFuklxa/EkKV02SIMxpgi3n6peGoj17lpetijiTkwfU5inogsl+QVzvqIXvUHdRNKqB3U4X3LBRfLgljgiSdOD+qnChzGOoUmSmyFbUdtX8VuMu9v+poQdiQ= Received: by 10.141.19.16 with SMTP id w16mr2216970rvi.1194851072302; Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:04:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.40.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g21sm9446143rvb.2007.11.11.23.04.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9988B143E7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:34:22 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:34:22 +0530 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112070422.GA31412@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> <3815.192.168.13.35.1194803377.squirrel@www.boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3815.192.168.13.35.1194803377.squirrel@www.boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 From: Girish Venkatachalam Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:04:44 -0000 On 18:49:37 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: > Thanks for your answer, although that's not quite what I'm looking for: > Okay. Find my answer below. > I know it's possible to 'shape' the traffic with altq, so it's possible in > theory to shape certain kind of traffic to almost nihil. Smart devices > like packetshapers (and even some proxy appliances like Blue Coat) have > separate categories for streaming media, so I was wondering if PF and altq > could do the same. Well I have no idea about appliances or commercial software. I can however tell you what I know. I have never tried these things but I can tell you what I have understood. First and foremost you can only shape outgoing traffic. You cannot do QoS with incoming traffic. You might be able to manipulate things a little but you have far more power when it comes to deciding how you want others to receive packets from you. This is the basic idea. You can only do traffic shaping with egress traffic. Not with ingress traffic. Now, pf + altq can do very sophisticated traffic shaping. There are three categories of queuing disciples supported by pf. a ) class based queuing (cbq) b ) priority based queuing (priq) c ) hierarchical fair service curve (hfsc) Each of these mechanisms have pros and cons and you have to pick one of them based on your requirements. The configuration for basic QoS management consists of three steps. 1) The altq statement ( which interface to work on , how much bandwidth you want to play around with and also the queuing discipline (one of the above) 2) You have to define the "queue" rules to determine how the total bandwidth in the above line has to be split amongst the various categories. Typically they are split into multiple queues based on port numbers but other possibilities also exist. For instance you will want to allocate bulk of the bandwidth for important mail traffic and browsing but you want to restrict p2p and other protocols. It is the "queue" lines that also determine what to do when there is congestion. (IOW most of the tweaking happens here :) 3) Next step is to use the pf filter rules to allocate which queues to use for handling which traffic I shall illustrate with an example. This is not my own. I am taking it from the pf man page. 1) altq on dc0 cbq bandwidth 5Mb queue { std, http, mail, ssh } 2) queue std bandwidth 10% cbq(default) queue http bandwidth 60% priority 2 cbq(borrow red) \ { employees, developers } queue developers bandwidth 75% cbq(borrow) queue employees bandwidth 15% queue mail bandwidth 10% priority 0 cbq(borrow ecn) queue ssh bandwidth 20% cbq(borrow) { ssh_interactive, ssh_bulk } queue ssh_interactive bandwidth 50% priority 7 cbq(borrow) queue ssh_bulk bandwidth 50% priority 0 cbq(borrow) 3) block return out on dc0 inet all queue std pass out on dc0 inet proto tcp from $developerhosts to any port 80 \ keep state queue developers pass out on dc0 inet proto tcp from $employeehosts to any port 80 \ keep state queue employees pass out on dc0 inet proto tcp from any to any port 22 \ keep state queue(ssh_bulk, ssh_interactive) pass out on dc0 inet proto tcp from any to any port 25 \ keep state queue mail As you can see the first line is the altq directive. You have defined a list of queues (std, http, mail, ssh) and also mentioned that you want to use class based queuing. Then the queue rules determine how individual queues should share the bandwidth amongst themselves. But we are not quite done yet. The most critical step is the filter rules that determine when to queue traffic and which queue to assign to. That happens in 3). It should be self explanatory. Please note that we have used "pass out" which corresponds to my main idea of determining how traffic leaves our network. Once data arrives on the interface, it is already too late to do QoS manipulation. This is not completely true (you can do bandwidth throttling) but at least relatively speaking this idea appears to be correct. > > Your solution works, however you'll have to know what sites are being > visited in order to block them entirely. > Hope the above explanation suffices. Can you clarify your needs a bit more? Thanks. Best, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 07:22:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A027516A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3820713C49D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (dpm.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAC7LoOx045472 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:21:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-puzzleid: {4C7A1223-B890-4023-BDF3-614131E5F283} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message x-cr-hashedpuzzle: ACdB AO2D AfKw AxCA A3hI B+vL CL9k DBeR DFf1 Eqca Eu70 EyDn E4IH HepP H0Xz I/5U; 1; ZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAtAHEAdQBlAHMAdABpAG8AbgBzAEAAZgByAGUAZQBiAHMAZAAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {4C7A1223-B890-4023-BDF3-614131E5F283}; agBvAGgAYQBuAEAAZABvAHUAYgBsAGUALQBsAC4AbgBsAA==; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:21:36 GMT; bgBhAG0AZQBkACAAbQBhAGsAZQAtAGwAbwBjAGEAbABoAG8AcwB0AA== Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:21:35 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB19BE98@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: named make-localhost Thread-Index: Acgk/KYgLZyrO4PaQGaXfBiQAg0Itw== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: named make-localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:22:02 -0000 In the handbook section 27.6.6.1 it tells me to use make-localhost. 27.6.6.1 Using make-localhost To configure a master zone for the localhost visit the /etc/namedb directory and run the following command: # sh make-localhost If all went well, a new file should exist in the master subdirectory. The filenames should be localhost.rev for the local domain name and localhost-v6.rev for IPv6 configurations. As the default configuration file, required information will be present in the named.conf file. But on my system 7.0 BETA2 there is no such file. Is the handbook out of date or is the file missing. Regards, Johan Hendriks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 07:29:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AD616A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C6313C4B2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:29:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAC7SijB033244; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:28:44 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAC7ShKS033243; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:28:43 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f From: Yuri Pankov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:28:42 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB19BE98@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB19BE98@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711121028.43288.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> Cc: Johan Hendriks Subject: Re: named make-localhost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:29:06 -0000 On Monday 12 November 2007 10:21:35 Johan Hendriks wrote: > In the handbook section 27.6.6.1 it tells me to use make-localhost. > > 27.6.6.1 Using make-localhost > To configure a master zone for the localhost visit the /etc/namedb > directory and run the following command: > # sh make-localhost > If all went well, a new file should exist in the master subdirectory. > The filenames should be localhost.rev for the local domain name and > localhost-v6.rev for IPv6 configurations. As the default configuration > file, required information will be present in the named.conf file. > > But on my system 7.0 BETA2 there is no such file. > Is the handbook out of date or is the file missing. > > Regards, > Johan Hendriks Handbook is out of date, you should already have localhost-forward.db and localhost-reverse.db in /etc/namedb/master/. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 07:57:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE86816A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donovan@dmpnet.org) Received: from mazar.dmpnet.org (mazar.dmpnet.org [87.127.11.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA9513C48A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donovan@dmpnet.org) Received: from DonovansLaptop (ibm-laptop.dmpnet.org [192.168.67.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mazar.dmpnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06264106C0 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:56:45 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000f01c82501$93486790$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> From: "Donovan R. Palmer" To: References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:56:41 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:57:03 -0000 I know this is off topic... > That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this > is the most needed thing to provide education. You are correct sometimes it isn't the most important thing. However, in many, many cases it is. As with any aid project, it needs to form part of a range of things on offer. Until now, no one has really sought to fill this huge gap and so this is a big step forward in dealing with the digital divide that exists in many parts of the world. Anyhow, back to freeBSD. :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 08:04:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EF116A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrades@cisco.com) Received: from sj-iport-6.cisco.com (sj-iport-6.cisco.com [171.71.176.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6DD13C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrades@cisco.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,404,1188802800"; d="scan'208";a="250262737" Received: from sj-dkim-4.cisco.com ([171.71.179.196]) by sj-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2007 00:03:20 -0800 Received: from sj-core-2.cisco.com (sj-core-2.cisco.com [171.71.177.254]) by sj-dkim-4.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAC83KmC008859 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:03:20 -0800 Received: from xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-221.cisco.com [128.107.191.63]) by sj-core-2.cisco.com (8.12.10/8.12.6) with ESMTP id lAC83Kfb021551 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:03:20 GMT Received: from xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.174]) by xbh-sjc-221.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:03:20 -0800 Received: from [10.21.82.89] ([10.21.82.89]) by xfe-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:03:19 -0800 Message-ID: <473808C7.4070502@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:03:19 -0800 From: Richard Andrades Organization: GSBU sw User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2007 08:03:20.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D28FE60:01C82502] DKIM-Signature: v=0.5; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=338; t=1194854600; x=1195718600; c=relaxed/simple; s=sjdkim4002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=andrades@cisco.com; z=From:=20Richard=20Andrades=20 |Subject:=20Re=3A=20Using=202M/4M=20pages |Sender:=20; bh=JunfoL3Gevo1XvDNTYGp0m160Sa6x6G5hq07IrsPwYg=; b=WR0Dp0PLVB3c30IpF7KOgJw3yFcLIl6WljBZIWdu3ecDg1/sXAfSBScj5WfcjNMVpqJ00axa Sfc3fYh/hk1c05e6NlKsSI8tgK6yMDO3Zxws0F55mI3k1f3aUXEFqWj7; Authentication-Results: sj-dkim-4; header.From=andrades@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/sjdkim4002 verified; ); Subject: Re: Using 2M/4M pages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: andrades@cisco.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:04:27 -0000 Looking at the kernel sources, I see some definitions for large page sizes in the sun/sparc64 files, but not for any other architectures. Richard On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Richard Andrades wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know if there is support for using the large page sizes with the > x86 CPUs? > > Thanks, > Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 08:14:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C27916A46E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A1A13C4B0 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14A8DF4BC; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:46 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:13:44 +0100 From: cpghost To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071112091344.2dc9ad38@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <4737F7C0.2020407@web.de> References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <47378C39.5010600@web.de> <47378163.7010400@FreeBSD.org> <4737F7C0.2020407@web.de> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:00 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:50:40 +0000 Tino Engel wrote: > >>>> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg [snip] > Nevertheless I can check out the author (he is german, too) and ask > him about the license issues... It would be *really* great if the author not only agreed to put the rendering under a permissive license, but also considered releasing and licensing the (graphics/povray?) source code too. I'd love to experiment a little bit with that! ;) Anyway, whatever comes out of it, kudos for the great find! :-))) -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 08:20:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7116A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA6B13C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 10994 invoked by uid 1002); 12 Nov 2007 08:20:13 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. 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(steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 08:19:57 -0000 Message-ID: <47380CB6.4090207@ibctech.ca> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:20:06 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <47378C39.5010600@web.de> <47378163.7010400@FreeBSD.org> <4737F7C0.2020407@web.de> <20071112091344.2dc9ad38@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20071112091344.2dc9ad38@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tino Engel , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:20:24 -0000 cpghost wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:50:40 +0000 > Tino Engel wrote: > >>>>>> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg > > [snip] > >> Nevertheless I can check out the author (he is german, too) and ask >> him about the license issues... > > It would be *really* great if the author not only agreed to put the > rendering under a permissive license, but also considered releasing > and licensing the (graphics/povray?) source code too. I'd love to > experiment a little bit with that! ;) > > Anyway, whatever comes out of it, kudos for the great find! :-))) Amen to that! I just would like to put it on my desktop/use it legally! Seriously, if someone here can gain the free rights to it and pass it along, then we all can say 'yay beastie!'. /* will keep hidden on desktop * until told not to. * Would be nice if someone says * that we can use it!!! */ Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 08:40:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D7516A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E085413C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F1623833B4; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:40:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:40:10 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711112340.13107.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Olivier Nicole , rmarella@gmail.com Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:40:27 -0000 On Sunday 11 November 2007, Olivier Nicole said: > > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be > > well invested. YMMV > > > > http://xogiving.org/ > > That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt > this is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking > giving laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some > cases... > > Olivier =46rom what I've been reading they are addressing this issue. One way=20 was providing solar power recharging stations. The other was hooking=20 up carousel type playground equipment to a small generator to=20 recharge the laptops. The third was good old WWII vintage hand crank=20 power. I also read that these laptops are optimized for low power=20 usage. I live in Alaska and they have been using the internet for=20 education in rural villiages for many years with much success. I=20 personally think this is a great idea. Too bad they won't all be=20 running FreeBSD :-) =2D-=20 =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html =2D------------------------------------------------------------------------= =2D------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 08:43:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E82E16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:43:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD93F13C491 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:43:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:44:04 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAC8geAG003063; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:42:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:42:40 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20071112084240.GA3039@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20071111150251.GA15448@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20071111171755.GC3038@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20071111171755.GC3038@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2007 08:44:04.0916 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E70A740:01C82508] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with building a patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:43:05 -0000 El día Sunday, November 11, 2007 a las 07:17:55PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas escribió: > > Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... > > The text leading up to this was: > > -------------------------- > > |diff -N -r -u -X exclude nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 > > |--- nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 > > |+++ nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 > > -------------------------- > > Here's the problem. > > The patch files for ports should *not* include the `nn-6.7.3' part, like > this one. They should be relative to the toplevel directory of the > unzipped/untarred port, i.e.: > > diff -N -u PATCH.RFC1522.orig PATCH.RFC1522 > --- PATCH.RFC1522.orig Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 > +++ PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 In this case what would be the best way to produce a recursive patch file for this set of patched sources: $ find . -name '*.orig' -print ./conf/s-linux.h.orig ./man/nn.1.nov.orig ./chset.c.orig ./aux.sh.orig ./answer.c.orig ./chset.h.orig ./news.c.orig ./xmakefile.orig ./db.c.orig ./global.c.orig ./global.h.orig ./more.c.orig ./news.h.orig ./pack_name.c.orig ./save.c.orig ./tables/applemacxiso.tab.orig ./tables/atarixiso.tab.orig ./tables/cp437xiso.tab.orig ./tables/cp850xiso.tab.orig ./tables/decxiso.tab.orig ./tables/isoxapplemac.tab.orig ./tables/isoxatari.tab.orig ./tables/isoxcp437.tab.orig ./tables/isoxcp850.tab.orig ./tables/isoxdec.tab.orig ./tables/isoxnext.tab.orig ./tables/nextxiso.tab.orig ./variable.c.orig ./nn.c.orig ./term.c.orig ./folder.c.orig where the directory 'tables' and the files below this dir are new files, i.e. their original files are just empty. Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 09:05:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C05C16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9B613C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=63414 helo=attila) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IrUTA-0000nn-1Y; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:16:33 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:45:08 +0330 From: "Bahman M." To: "Martin Hepworth" Message-ID: <20071112114508.04daf64b@attila> In-Reply-To: <72cf361e0711110826h219cef9ah1a24f856f947d35b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> <72cf361e0711110826h219cef9ah1a24f856f947d35b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Claws+spamd: No spam is detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:05 -0000 On 2007-11-11 Martin Hepworth wrote: > HI > > you need to tell the MTA to pass email through spamassassin/clamav > somehow. Depending on what you're MTA is (sendmail/exim/postfix etc) > its different. > > try "sendmail spamassassin" for example in google.. > > -- > martin > > On Nov 11, 2007 4:13 PM, Bahman M. wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have Claws-Mail and spamd installed (from ports) and although I > > have been using this combination -I've been been manually marking > > all spams as 'spam'- for more than 2 months, still _no_ spam > > message is detected. > > > > I've followed the instructions on Claws/spamd wiki. I've got the > > followings in /etc/rc.conf: > > spamd_enable="YES" > > spamd_flags="-C /usr/local/etc/spamd -i 127.0.0.1 -p 783 -u > > spamd -d -l" > > Also Claws configuration parameters exactly match the spamd_flags > > above. > > > > > > System information: > > % uname -a > > FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #2: Fri Sep 7 > > 14:23:40 IRST 2007 root@attila:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HELIUM i386 > > > > % spamd -V > > SpamAssassin Server version 3.2.3 > > running on Perl 5.8.8 > > with SSL support (IO::Socket::SSL 1.08) > > with zlib support (Compress::Zlib 2.006) > > > > % claws-mail --version > > Claws Mail version 3.0.0 > > > > What am I doing wrong? What should I do to enable Claws/spamd > > detect spam? I'd appreciate any hint/help. You mean spam doesn't get detected unless I run a MTA -configured to pass emails to spamd? I thought Claws could communicate with spamd on its own without any need to a MTA (corrections?). -- Bahman Movaqar Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 09:05:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DCB16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2D613C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAC953JU008517; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:05:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lAC951EE008514; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:05:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:05:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan Horne In-Reply-To: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Message-ID: <20071112100443.B8505@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:05:35 -0000 [root@wojtek ~]# atacontrol cap ad0 Protocol ATA/ATAPI revision 6 device model ST9120822A serial number 5LZ2F879 firmware revision 3.ALD cylinders 16383 heads 16 sectors/track 63 lba supported 234441648 sectors lba48 supported 234441648 sectors dma supported overlap not supported Feature Support Enable Value Vendor write cache yes yes read ahead yes yes Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 0/0x00 SMART yes yes microcode download yes yes security yes no power management yes yes advanced power management yes yes 32896/0x8080 automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 254/0xFE From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 09:28:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C0A16A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:28:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01EF13C4AA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAC9SPhG047420; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lAC9SPQB047419; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:28:25 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Robert Marella Message-ID: <20071112092825.GA47373@thought.org> References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:28:36 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:55:01PM -1000, Robert Marella wrote: > Aloha FreeBSD Users > > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > invested. YMMV > > http://xogiving.org/ > > Have a very good day > > Robert This project is among the best and most selfless, not to mention innovative and techy, since we-geeks began hacking code. I'm going to buy at least two of these computers. Two for my household, and two for poor children *everywhere*. (had i not lucked into education, i dread to think of where i'd have wound up.) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 09:50:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A411516A4BF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F19413C4CA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.189] (port=38297 helo=smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IrVQY-00037z-3k for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:54 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([213.51.103.48]:4989 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrVQX-0008Gv-Cy for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:54 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C498F398B6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.159.200.167 (proxying for 172.21.129.43) (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <55683.212.159.200.167.1194859072.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <20071112070422.GA31412@saraswathy.susmita.org> References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> <3815.192.168.13.35.1194803377.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071112070422.GA31412@saraswathy.susmita.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:17:52 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:50:20 -0000 On Mon, November 12, 2007 08:04, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > > Hope the above explanation suffices. Yu, it does. Very nice explanation, thanx. > > > Can you clarify your needs a bit more? Well, it's actually quite simple: our internet access line, which is used by several people (directly, without a proxy server, but with a FreeBSD firewall). Our management wants to block unwanted traffic (so not: wants to block unwanted sited - which would be very easy), like p2p and online radio, since this traffic is: - non business related - bandwidth consuming Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 09:58:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05AF16A468 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46FF313C491 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:58:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Nov 2007 09:58:01 -0000 Received: from vpn-cl-166-48.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [141.3.166.48] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 10:58:01 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19qIak3XHpqJc2XQ6jXxFnOxaYnHUJTGDFXCXmF5c zCqClCTIt2Dvwb Message-ID: <473823A8.9050905@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:58:00 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> <3815.192.168.13.35.1194803377.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071112070422.GA31412@saraswathy.susmita.org> <55683.212.159.200.167.1194859072.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <55683.212.159.200.167.1194859072.squirrel@www.boosten.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:58:14 -0000 Peter Boosten wrote: > On Mon, November 12, 2007 08:04, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > >> Hope the above explanation suffices. > > Yu, it does. Very nice explanation, thanx. > >> >> Can you clarify your needs a bit more? > > Well, it's actually quite simple: our internet access line, which is used > by several people (directly, without a proxy server, but with a FreeBSD > firewall). Our management wants to block unwanted traffic (so not: wants > to block unwanted sited - which would be very easy), like p2p and online > radio, since this traffic is: > - non business related > - bandwidth consuming > > Peter You just drop all traffic except for that over wanted ports, such as for http, https, ftp, smtp, pop3, maybe some instant messengers... That won't help against tunneling, though. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 10:08:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4CD16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.rudolph@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51F113C4CA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.rudolph@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so913016nfb for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:08:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=QEgoC4Cxjhc5kGhoeTDZ0/4onyDk8/p0t1CQqvXfzzQ=; b=RqK4MF6NrQdt3NKX51lsPCqN2x/669kQ2W9uGrpDIGMcZkNPvri/SkUOja4CUCsfYqHuz//yK7w6SvTVuLk0iN7xWa3+Yb7s7T7LhBpxb6RbdA1SHnoqq9JMu4Px7/t/Ao4l17tLEbN2Qm2bTU7OVATCk9hSvamw5e4wYn4HPU4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=k5A7r6h2AZCH2BiLKA56grnN8vRc3Bo38AHtRcxUf458ifqt8ncmnvGB9pCTYPkBBFw6YdtlAwA69xreNO3+njawtoII6aKBomlx9rZulkspgUuQESPZUv7yz3Jrpney+3GwOqhoEWq7K7zbLDJvATt1nDNjtMJsrPLBzYJ+BYI= Received: by 10.86.96.18 with SMTP id t18mr4483982fgb.1194862118035; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from noname ( [87.176.51.161]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm2378230fga.2007.11.12.02.08.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:08:36 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Rudolph To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:08:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <20071111225550.GA42346@thought.org> <200711120058.15259.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> <20071112023746.GA44553@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071112023746.GA44553@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711121108.25391.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: CD's and fonts.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:08:56 -0000 On Monday 12 November 2007 03:37:46 Gary Kline wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 12:58:13AM +0100, Michael Rudolph wrote: > > On Sunday 11 November 2007 23:55:50 Gary Kline wrote: > > > After many tries , my secoond burner finally opopened a CD full > > > of hundreds of TTF fonts. I don't know how to use the graphics > > > widget to move the contents of /media/cdrom/1 to <> > > > so that all these fonts are usable by both AbiWord and OOo-2.3. > > > (On my Ubuntu platform I used the command line to copy from > > > /cdrom/*.ttf to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/. ) > > > > > > I am using the OOo font wizard to install the few M$ free fonts, > > > but sem to be missing BASIC. [[???]]. At any rate, any tips or > > > insights would be very much appreciated here. > > > > > > tia, > > > > > > gary > > > > Hi Gary, > > > > as far as I know, you are using KDE, which makes things pretty > > easy. You can just use Konqueror to browse to your fonts and use > > the appropriate option in the context menu to install the selected > > fonts. > > > > If you want to do the font installation by hand, as you described, > > you have to make sure that X is aware of the directory where your > > font files reside and that the directory is properly prepared. This > > is best described in the handbook: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-fonts.h > >tml > > > > I hope that helps. > > > > michael > > Well, your handbook URL helped, :-) ... I have in bookmarked in > konq. I pointed the browser at the CDROM but there were too many > files--hundred--and the browser choked. I'm not sure if I can > do a CLI cp -rp from the disk, so I'm **trying** to figure out > how to use these GUI tools. If you , or anyone else, would be so > kind as too explain how to copy one file or multiple files or a > directory and its subdirectories from (say) /media/cdrom/1 to > /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, I would be much obliged. > > Typing a single string in an xterm seems lots easier than > doing it by file-manager. ... > > thanks, > > gary Hi Gary, I assume konqueror is chocking because you have font previews enabled. If you deselect "Font Files" in konquerors View > Preview submenu, prior to entering your font directory, you should be able to use konqueror. As I said before, it's a piece of cake to do it this way. If you want to do it as per the handbook, you'd have to copy your font files to an appropriate directory, which could look something like this: # cp /media/cdrom/1/*.ttf /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType I'm not sure if I understood you question correctly, but either the man page for cp(1) might help or you ask again here. Have a nice time. michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 10:55:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D0616A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B4913C4B7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:55:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1044608rvb for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:55:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=+VE1n7Q2xL4IUA6WIgXOiTFdZKMutFCuxTNPqShBtLE=; b=Le0S9nUfvelhfgnrgoFs0hAIcN35PU+SxB7/+pOpQYnWCiQuz/JYhqCBk9285FzJ1CHDvCxo8T50E8v25K8OAP/ZJ6tiNroNYAZKLSGw3PpJNvhMow8sEBVyvyjFKeEslC/3339zb6wkh/6/LoGv2nD6j04rpgTNzXVJyg4dLgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=aBJ+WGwxDT7SWQ1bBWJ6QKCBu/AD4fBSe76nAqEkE4BRrxMY1eu/JSMoCGa1lRiDiOWkpvynZ42BAWaViNlqOqImbJuM2/l9Yp2iWUHuiSCkNn+F2Wd5n5cYOrHmzyWXTAuQ4OgztiEfqqpVCUVEO1L9n35v+F6OrUTXfilmlRI= Received: by 10.141.196.13 with SMTP id y13mr2300686rvp.1194864923201; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:55:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.40.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k34sm9680457rvb.2007.11.12.02.55.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:55:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 844FB143E7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:25:17 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:25:17 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112105517.GA14109@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> <3815.192.168.13.35.1194803377.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071112070422.GA31412@saraswathy.susmita.org> <55683.212.159.200.167.1194859072.squirrel@www.boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55683.212.159.200.167.1194859072.squirrel@www.boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:55:33 -0000 On 10:17:52 Nov 12, Peter Boosten wrote: > Yu, it does. Very nice explanation, thanx. > NP. Thanks. > > Well, it's actually quite simple: our internet access line, which is used > by several people (directly, without a proxy server, but with a FreeBSD > firewall). Our management wants to block unwanted traffic (so not: wants > to block unwanted sited - which would be very easy), like p2p and online > radio, since this traffic is: > - non business related > - bandwidth consuming In that case you don't need QoS at all. Just use pf for it. Refer to the first mail I sent in this thread. All the info you need is right there. Don't worry about altq. Best, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 11:03:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689A616A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3841E13C48D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1045876rvb for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:02:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=G+6DaeSqsuwr12GF56jsw+fTgC3CRdnDMocI4uuHJJo=; b=Pm34O9woL67/s0IQGcCJxZypk7R3Mzfv4rw5tGSIVkJ5CHn5hDdKcKBaSQ/jxitkfzF0zHqd4wYsIHJFVOedajpgZtpPuJadxWpob1WTrKFXu4O5Ox+lsvbWh8x3ReXTxGiCruzaCVM3TSj9derkAwLOVsERruAPRP0E7/sHo1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=LVE0BAL629W1c0eR6Ku3nkoGVjLSKgeIttGCpwUIho9c/8Hlrsvf4NThWyIsbnqPFqEQImdjjFBOFf/E25kAAw3AgAok8+sowoaVU5M6UaztI3mY4TAymYcA0PTo5qcI4BOPWZZBg99LD3ZEeUN5es9AzwaaUnw3WN4bNiP36jk= Received: by 10.141.78.14 with SMTP id f14mr2303074rvl.1194865373250; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.40.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm11399016rvb.2007.11.12.03.02.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A5E5D143E7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:32:47 +0530 (IST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:32:47 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112110247.GB14109@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53330.192.168.13.8.1194786209.squirrel@www.boosten.org> <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071111144325.GA3433@saraswathy.susmita.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: Quick question about PF and ALTQ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:06 -0000 On 14:03:29 Nov 11, Peter Boosten wrote: > Hi all, > > One quick question: is it possible to filter specific kinds of traffic > with altq, traffic that is not bound to specific IP addresses, like online > radio? > Looks like I finally understood what you want. You want to block the protocol from/to *any* IP address. This is easily done. block all pass out all to { http smtp ftp } This is a very "cruel" ruleset. :) Instead you actually want this one. nonbusiess= "{" 522 bittorrent ... "}" block quick drop out all to port $nonbusiness As you can see using pf, you can leave out anything. That is the power of this marvelous creation. It gives tremendous power to firewalls. In fact I would venture to say it is the best software available for firewalling functionality. Best, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 12:02:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D7616A47C for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from host.omnisec.de (host.omnisec.de [62.245.232.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D6E13C4BA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from tek.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (tek.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [172.21.2.3]) by host.omnisec.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACC1cZs073225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de [IPv6:fec0::1:0:0:1:1]) by tek.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACC1c55057420; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lACC1xov004439; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de) X-Authentication-Warning: titan.flintsbach.schmalzbauer.de: harry set sender to h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de using -f From: Harald Schmalzbauer Organization: OmniSEC To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, josh.carroll@gmail.com Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <18231.38110.579658.383456@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <8cb6106e0711111654k1012ad9am97f453fd0b30800@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0711111654k1012ad9am97f453fd0b30800@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart32297965.PhArFNMqRq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200711121301.59014.h.schmalzbauer@omnisec.de> Cc: Jonathan Horne , Robert Huff Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:02:11 -0000 --nextPart32297965.PhArFNMqRq Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Am Montag, 12. November 2007 01:54:33 schrieb Josh Carroll: > > That's the _model_ number, not the _serial_ number, yes? > > Oops. Indeed. I misread the question. :/ I'm still missing the hint for 'diskinfo -v ad0' ! Isn't it well known? Best regards, -Harry --nextPart32297965.PhArFNMqRq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHOEC3LDqVQ9VXb8gRAqCoAJ99cPEW+LVvibNJgF0m9yiek99/LgCfVkhZ 8rRfUs9DMW5C8ladC8ZVTeE= =ZbEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart32297965.PhArFNMqRq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 12:45:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053F216A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:45:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from mtai05.charter.net (mtai05.charter.net [209.225.8.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B282B13C480 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:45:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from greenwood.andy@gmail.com) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mtai05.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071112124548.SVMK7894.mtai05.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net>; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:45:48 -0500 Received: from agreenftp.no-ip.com ([97.89.174.47]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071112124548.STPK14098.aarprv06.charter.net@agreenftp.no-ip.com>; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:45:48 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agreenftp.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FBB39862; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:45:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from agreenftp.no-ip.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zeus.agreenftp.no-ip.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6LfyvSu3TPNb; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:45:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from hercules.nuvox.net (216.215.202.5.nw.nuvox.net [216.215.202.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: andy) by agreenftp.no-ip.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C772C3980B; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:45:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at agreenftp.no-ip.com Message-ID: <47384AF7.4090106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:45:43 -0500 From: Andy Greenwood User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Si Thu References: <000f01c82212$c1b9e3c0$452dab40$@com> <47332EBE.3000900@gmail.com> <000a01c822b6$2f8ed060$8eac7120$@com> In-Reply-To: <000a01c822b6$2f8ed060$8eac7120$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:45:59 -0000 Si Thu wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Thanks for your answer. > > No problem, but please remember to include the list in any replies unless the person you're talking with spefically asks to take the conversation off-list. This will ensure that you get the widest possible audience for your questions, and generally, the best possible answers as well. Also, please remember to bottom-post your replies, since it makes the conversation easier to read for people joining in the middle. > Again let me have one more question, I cannot encode the .wmv to .flv. It > seems ffmpeg of port is outdated, but I downladed the port from the > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg/?only_with_tag > =RELEASE_6_2_0 > If you want the newer versions of software from the ports tree, don't limit your results by the tag. Basically, you're saying (IIRC) "I want the version of the port that was included with this release" instead of "I want the most recent version of this port." the release versions of the ports will only be updated for bug fixes, etc. Not new features. I'd suggest that you just use portsnap to update your local ports tree and go from there. If you've never used portsnap before, do the following portsnap fetch extract If you have already done the extract step above, then use this portsnap fetch update from now on. Every time you run this command, your ports tree is updated with the latest software. As long as you aren't on a really ancient release, software from the ports tree will ALMOST always compile and install fine. After your ports tree is updated, just cd /usr/ports/multimedia/ffmpeg make deinstall <- to remove the older version make install clean <-to install the new version Now you should have the latest version and all it's capabilities. I don't know specifically if this will solve your wmv -> flv problem, but if not, you will be at a better place to ask questions. You would probably want to ask your questions about specific software at the developer's forums or mailing lists though, since this list is supposed to be mainly for questions about freebsd itself. Good Luck! > Does it not update? > > Sithu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Greenwood [mailto:greenwood.andy@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 10:44 PM > To: Si Thu > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: FreeBSD questions > > Si Thu wrote: > >> Dear freeBSD, >> >> >> >> I am running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE on my staging server and having one >> > problem > >> about FFmpeg. >> >> I have read a lot of documentation and google on the web to get the >> > solution > >> for how to customize installation for ffmpeg utility. Normally, freeBSD >> provides s lot of packages and ports that can be covered the average >> requirements. >> >> >> >> On my server, I have installed ffmpeg from the provided port with the >> command "make install clean". After installation, I am able to encode the >> input files from some location of server such "usr/local/bin" and cannot >> implement with PHP(I used exec() command). FFmpeg-php is a object oriented >> API for PHP and ffmpeg implementation. I was not able to install that API >> > on > >> freeBSD. >> >> >> >> And there are some other configuration such "--enable-shared --enable-gpl" >> and other libraries they can use in ffmpeg by configuration with >> > ./configure > >> command. But I was not able to find how to configure before install >> > ffmpeg. > >> If you would be able to give me a solution that would be great. I will >> really appreciate. >> >> > > Don't know about ffmpeg-php or anything, as I've never used them. > However, you could do a few different things to change the configure > arguments. You could just edit the Makefile in the port's directory, or > you could define some make variables either through /etc/make.conf or by > defining them on the command line like > > make -DWITH_SWSCALER > > which will do the same thing as configure --enable-swscaler. Look > through the Makefile for the defaults (both switches you mentioned are > on by default in my ports tree) and all availible switches. Make syntax > is simple enough, so you should be able to figure it out without much > trouble. Also, you might want to run make configure instead of make > install or even just make, since that will run the configure script and > then stop, so you can look over the output and adjust as necessary > before continuing the build. > >> >> >> >> >> Looking forward to get an answer >> >> >> >> kind regards, >> >> >> >> Sithu >> >> sithu@rareplay.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 13:28:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC4616A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6A9F13C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: (qmail 51386 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Nov 2007 13:01:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.hk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZEHD5ITv+Go9NBl/eZuOS6uzS2pulmPmIP6RqUQnWy4GawNke+7D6LDr2xpV95HNqBLnMM/ijCMU0AaMGrFL4IxjpKaublPch4MXgS/ScW8ipQVza4KBTM/e4Gt3XuwFAS7p2tlU48gnRvY5qi+6ksGGSI5HU+WLeq3a2kWvqWQ=; X-YMail-OSG: n2EukDAVM1n8hjPmmZuu9TLL2hFACLYkmrFZqySq0x9yK4OV1e1VzRJa5I4.dzxUeWLrgljESdl8iY7IhDt6mbfEJs6eh5j4sslu2YzhQYesDT38EBnDZxZJSvpDRA-- Received: from [61.18.170.41] by web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:01:31 PST Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:01:31 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Dung To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <766805.50147.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: question about floating point calcuation with shell script / bc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:28:31 -0000 Hi I have a file with numbers in each line. Each number is a decimal number. My task is to add them up and get the final answer. I have searched with the search engine. I found bash cannot handle floating point calculation. I tried to use 'bc' and found if the final answer is < 1 (eg. 0.2) It display .2 instead of 0.2 (no leading zero). Any suggestion or other methods? I know ksh could do floating point calculation but I am now familiar with ksh. Regards Patrick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 13:44:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBDF16A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E23913C49D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=48039 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1IrZaF-00081x-9C; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:11 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([213.51.103.48]:4917 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrZaD-0007zT-FS; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:11 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2917398B6; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.159.200.167 (proxying for 172.21.129.43) (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <63041.212.159.200.167.1194875048.squirrel@www.boosten.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:44:08 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: "Patrick Dung" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about floating point calcuation with shell script / bc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:44:21 -0000 On Mon, November 12, 2007 14:01, Patrick Dung wrote: > Hi > > > I have a file with numbers in each line. > Each number is a decimal number. > My task is to add them up and get the final answer. > > > I have searched with the search engine. > I found bash cannot handle floating point calculation. > > > I tried to use 'bc' and found if the final answer is < 1 (eg. 0.2) > It display .2 instead of 0.2 (no leading zero). > > > Any suggestion or other methods? > I know ksh could do floating point calculation > but I am now familiar with ksh. > Try awk awk '{sum +=3D $1} END {printf "%.2f\n", sum}' file assuming the file consists only of numbers in the first column. Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 14:10:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204D716A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:10:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwb@hera.homer.att.com) Received: from mail120.messagelabs.com (mail120.messagelabs.com [216.82.250.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF1F13C4A6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jwb@hera.homer.att.com) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: jwb@hera.homer.att.com X-Msg-Ref: server-9.tower-120.messagelabs.com!1194874991!26221578!1 X-StarScan-Version: 5.5.12.14.2; banners=-,-,- X-Originating-IP: [144.160.20.53] Received: (qmail 2900 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 13:43:12 -0000 Received: from sbcsmtp6.sbc.com (HELO mlph073.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) (144.160.20.53) by server-9.tower-120.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 13:43:12 -0000 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlph073.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lACDh9WE020701; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:43:09 -0500 Received: from mlph070.sfdc.sbc.com (mlph070.sfdc.sbc.com [144.155.224.139]) by mlph073.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lACDh3nu020634; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:43:04 -0500 Received: from sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlph070.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lACDh3Nl027103; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:43:03 -0500 Received: from ulysses.homer.att.com (ulysses.homer.att.com [135.205.193.8]) by mlph070.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lACDgwNt026991; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:42:59 -0500 Received: from hera.homer.att.com (hera.homer.att.com [135.205.193.102]) by ulysses.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11484; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from hera.homer.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04032; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:42:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200711121342.IAA04032@hera.homer.att.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.0.4 To: matti k In-Reply-To: Message from matti k of "Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:24:14 +1100." <20071110102414.25b66271@platypus.freebsd.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:42:27 -0500 From: "J. W. Ballantine" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkgdb failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:10:00 -0000 Yes, seems you need to rebuild ruby, for safety I also rebuilt ruby-bdb and portupgrade. I then moved /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db and ran pkgdb -fu. Then it was safe to run portupgrade. This is probably overkill, but it worked for me. Jim ---------- In Response to your message ------------- > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:24:14 +1100 > To: "J. W. Ballantine" > From: matti k > Subject: Re: pkgdb failure > > On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 08:06:54 -0500 > "J. W. Ballantine" wrote: > > > After upgrading from 6-STABLE to 7-RELEASE, I tried to rebuild > > all the packages from portupgrade -af I started getting the following > > error messages. The first once, the second multiple times, even > > after I moved the pkgdb.db and did a pkgdb -fu. > > > > [/usr/ports/INDEX-7.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid > > argument] [Updating the portsdb in /usr/ports . > > .. - 17746 port entries found /usr/ports/INDEX-7.db: unexpected file > > type or format -- Invalid argument: Cannot update the portsdb! > > (/usr/ports/INDEX-7.db)] > > > > > > /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db: unexpected file type or format -- Invalid > > argument > > > > Any ideas on what is causing this? > > I got this as well, after portupgrade tried to register installation of > new ruby version. A pkgdb -F seemed to correct it and i continued on > with portupgrade with no more errors. > > Regards, > Matti > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 14:20:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DBD16A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from thenetnow.com (thenetnow.com [69.90.69.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4807F13C4A6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpeel@thenetnow.com) Received: from hpeel.ody.ca ([216.240.12.2] helo=GRANT) by constellation.thenetnow.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ira9W-000Psl-Cn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: <013a01c82537$457df210$6501a8c0@GRANT> From: "Grant Peel" To: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:21:09 -0500 Organization: The Net Now MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: IPFW or ProFTPD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Grant Peel List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:20:56 -0000 Hi all, I am getting lots of brute force attacks on my proftpd server and was wondering if anyone knows of a way for IPFW to check incomming connections and automagicaly block an IP for a period of time when too many connections are made on a port, or if any Proftpd gurus out there know if there is a mod that does the same thing. I have mod_Delay installed, but it does not seem to help much. TIA, -Grant From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 14:37:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E26816A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net (ranger.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238A413C4EA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF64EE0002E1; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47386512.6080606@dial.pipex.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:37:06 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Greenwood References: <000f01c82212$c1b9e3c0$452dab40$@com> <47332EBE.3000900@gmail.com> <000a01c822b6$2f8ed060$8eac7120$@com> <47384AF7.4090106@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47384AF7.4090106@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Si Thu , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:37:25 -0000 Andy Greenwood wrote: > If you want the newer versions of software from the ports tree, don't > limit your results by the tag. Basically, you're saying (IIRC) "I want > the version of the port that was included with this release" instead > of "I want the most recent version of this port." the release versions > of the ports will only be updated for bug fixes, etc. Unless something has changed recently, this is not correct. The release versions of the ports are *never* updated for anything; not security fixes, not features, nothing. The ports tree is not like, say, Fedora Linux rpms. What you say is true of the *base* system, but not true for ports. Technically, the ports tree is not branched, because it's a) too much of a maintenance burden and b) apparently CVS is likely to struggle, which I can believe. The ports tree is *tagged* (not branched) when the release ISOs are made, and those tags are never moved. For cv(s)uping ports there are only two reasonable tags, as far as I know: "." which means the latest ports tree or a date: when you desperately need to get back to the ports tree you had say a week ago because it worked and your current one doesn't and you are desperate. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 14:39:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2B216A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB6F13C4B3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) X-Sent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [192.168.2.5] (c-71-238-82-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net [71.238.82.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id lACEcpwh045650 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:38:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) From: Mark Moellering Organization: Psyberation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:38:43 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=71.238.82.210; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=71.238.82.210; helo=[192.168.2.5] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 71.238.82.210; Sender-helo: [192.168.2.5]; ) Cc: John Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mark@msen.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:39:01 -0000 On Friday 09 November 2007 4:20 pm, John wrote: > I've been struggling to get a handle on the FreeBSD system. Making good > progress, but then I ran into the fact that Firefox on FreeBSD can't do > flash. Definite showstopper, for me. Ok, then I tried to use the > linuxpluginwrapper approach, and it didn't work. > > It made me recall, in reading up on FreeBSD, I did see where somebody > installed both Firefox and Linx-firefox. > > So before I do battle with this Linux wrapper approach, I wondered if I > would be better off simply installing the Linux-firefox? > > Is that easier? More likely to work? > > Does it perform almost as well as the native FreeBSD version? > > Any input would be appreciated. > > John John, I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I have been told that this solution works fine "out of the box" on FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. Mark Moellering mark@msen.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 14:47:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C7A716A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAE813C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:47:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so240217ana for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d7ynC6UQaV+ExCkhGMNsoj74YxqoHtLdiOSjkiWd05U=; b=Q9I5xvIuBLDdyBra1rRVLYqKiJm2+/8AxYrxKb6Y/f4SbfLhO4+Dnok7Ram2TN+loVx+ndA5/klCEcrVBGnVk4NJ1r9Z9Vwq6QTFZdetv6xnCmTkU2qbApH5ZRPSHSZxmY6yEh5s6yKEcYgwZzX0Q8zAXii6lesEoTr9nsXWhZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=P1yd11u4YKJI7uYX4XiXf6jeOeXA7JW4AUZtbztlHRvJBRKD71aRr/CoN3eJ1BYrxbvBSbTaecmVEcLmIaiyucMkH2ND/HigRUjX65GEJbRBeCcQg8wbITsNWQ6CyyEYdOeEDK6IXxZGsfmrCnbW5pobcxapGIaoy4AYr53lmYQ= Received: by 10.100.254.18 with SMTP id b18mr7535460ani.1194878824275; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i27sm4382279elf.2007.11.12.06.47.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:47:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47386761.1090801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:46:57 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mark@msen.com References: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> In-Reply-To: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:47:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > > I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right > now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, > which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use > wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I > have been told that this solution works fine "out of the box" on > FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. Works right out of the box for all versions of FreeBSD > 6.... I just did it on a 8-Current machine doing the following port installs in this order: firefox linux-flashplugin7 acroread7 after you install acroread run "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHOGdhJ9+1V27SttsRAlYhAJwLmRfkU5eT9ugh3P1gfH0ImZO4RwCeI1xF IrALlh7qkHerjj5BwNa3Qq4= =P1uM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 14:48:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E5D16A421 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from futuristick@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860ED13C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from futuristick@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1346542pyb for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:48:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=o1PGO+okGpyIIMbuuFRug4UieZkvDmj+Nq0KsV44pIA=; b=t9TDSGWtV6i9oRwdBklNv1ewzNg++gyEWMXZyuojHBmyn0kFQJFvw8krKUQsG0AdjPG48SLV1XK1SMg/5mfFU9WhW2QMBcuScE9LeI2tpjZtI1zk2SFCbBp6gR+9jiO5L9GjVA5ixhboK7tbYWpJTvK3tRvvmm/7lGlD85jtY9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fjPs4jtg9q6A7uw6Jx2JCmLZlQ0MnJZ3+E+Im1O4xPc3ZB1ESCtv1xEMfJeFvbf+AfKPk9+LDt6h6ryT0IffpIW0tPUQvpna/PMQc4ndMf72V2oVBp9m/EugOeYylYFrsIENInysJT66vQMOXP2hkFSV1igmTBZVUGIuIlk6WP0= Received: by 10.65.115.4 with SMTP id s4mr14023319qbm.1194878916849; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.101? ( [24.18.73.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p4sm3640493qba.2007.11.12.06.48.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:48:35 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <6345B48D-949A-4044-BA85-7628EE3F83DD@gmail.com> References: <4D07F1BA-F6C2-473F-89C6-E760FD770313@gmail.com> <4736C6F1.4030308@infracaninophile.co.uk> <6345B48D-949A-4044-BA85-7628EE3F83DD@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3D1CE38B-BD89-44BF-AEA1-093BC102D983@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: futuristick Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:48:31 -0800 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: apache13-modperl problem: mod_dir, mod_mime X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:48:48 -0000 I've solved it for now; forget to add the Listen directive! (And I reinstalled Apache for good measure after backing up conf). ~Doug On Nov 11, 2007, at 11:40 AM, futuristick wrote: > Thank you! I have located modules in /usr/local/libexec/apache and > have added them in the correct order to my httpd.conf. > > However, apache does not want to start. > > sudo /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache start > yields > Starting apache > with no errors, yet sockstat -4 reveals that httpd is not running. > My httpd.pid file is in a directory > which is owned by the user and group apache should run under (www/ > www). > > ServerType standalone > ServerRoot "/usr/local" > PidFile /var/run/apache/httpd.pid > ScoreBoardFile /var/run/apache/httpd.scoreboard > ResourceConfig /dev/null > AccessConfig /dev/null > > > > Port 3000 > User www > Group www > ServerAdmin me@email.com > UseCanonicalName Off > ServerSignature Off > HostnameLookups Off > ServerTokens Prod > > My firewall script allows binding to port 3000, so I'm at a loss here. > > On Nov 11, 2007, at 1:10 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> futuristick wrote: >> >>> I have installed apache13-modperl from ports because I want to run a >>> simple photoblog. However, there was no 'make config' option for >>> modules, and here is the output of httpd -l: >>> >>> Compiled-in modules: >>> http_core.c >>> mod_so.c >>> mod_perl.c >>> suexec: disabled; invalid wrapper /usr/local/sbin/suexec >>> >>> I don't understand why mod_dir and mod_mime aren't installed by >>> default. >>> How can I serve pages without these? How can I get these modules >>> installed? (I don't know where, if any, the .so files might be). >> >> Not having an OPTIONS dialog is just a symptom of the age of the >> port and that the possibility of implementing such a thing has not >> yet risen to the top of the maintainer's TODO list. OPTIONS are not >> mandatory in the ports system -- you can still use the original and >> in some circumstances superior method of defining compilation flags >> on the command line or (more usefully) in /etc/make.conf >> >> However, the only way to find out what flags are available is by >> looking at what the Makefile provides. In the case of apache13- >> modssl >> the Makefile is really rather complex, but the maintainer has >> provided some handy documentation of what can be tweaked: >> >> % cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl >> % make pre-fetch >> >> As it transpires, the apache13-modssl port doesn't give you a >> huge amount of flexibility as to how the module load is configured. >> There are about 4 -- 5 optional modules you can enable or disable >> completely, most of which I doubt you'll have any need for, although >> suexec is possibly an exception that you may want. >> >> Otherwise you get the default setup from the Apache configuration >> system as invoked with the following flags: >> >> --enable-module=most \ >> --enable-module=auth_db \ >> --enable-module=mmap_static \ >> --disable-module=auth_dbm \ >> --enable-shared=max \ >> --enable-module=ssl \ >> --enable-module=define \ >> >> That is, everything standard except experimental modules and >> auth_dbm is >> enabled, plus auth_db, mmap_static and ssl. Modules are >> configured as loadable modules rather than compiled in. That >> gives you maximum >> flexibility and maximum control over how large your apache processes >> will grow but adds a layer of indirection to various pointer lookups >> which will add a few percent to the time it takes to serve a page. >> Unless you're trying to run your server at the absolute max, that is >> almost definitely the correct choice. >> >> mod_dir and mod_mime are certainly installed and available as part of >> the default package. Look in /usr/local/etc/libexec/apache to >> find the >> loadable modules themselves. Look at the 'LoadModule' lines in >> /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.conf to see what is being loaded at >> runtime >> - -- the default is to load everything available. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Matthew >> >> - -- >> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard >> Flat 3 >> PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate >> Kent, CT11 9PW >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >> >> iD8DBQFHNsbx8Mjk52CukIwRCEzAAKCU8GVX/gj1eoqi4VAnJtZlj+Pp4wCfccLi >> sch16WtyVVoq0bmrcQRBoJA= >> =eX9t >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 15:26:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B50716A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from mercureh.reacthosting.com (reacthosting.com [195.177.245.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D4913C4BA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from work@ashleymoran.me.uk) Received: from hosta.jigsawfinance.com ([213.106.224.113] helo=[192.168.0.45]) by mercureh.reacthosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IrbAo-000C7W-77 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:26:02 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ashley Moran Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:26:00 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mercureh.reacthosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [26 6] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ashleymoran.me.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:26:23 -0000 Hi I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm missing something. The apache22 port is the latest one to join this crowd, although there is an option to skip the GUI. I'm much happier using WITH_PROXY_MODULES or whatever, and managing everything in pkgtools.conf. What is the best way to pre-configure GUI-configured ports? For example, if I want to script an installation of several ports. I've seen this: , is it what I'm after? Thanks for any advice Ashley -- blog @ http://aviewfromafar.net/ linked-in @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleymoran currently @ work From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 15:27:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E437C16A473 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B57313C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from M.Apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([193.31.10.34]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:27:28 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lACFQ62d013462; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:26:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:26:06 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20071112152606.GA13290@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20071111150251.GA15448@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20071111171755.GC3038@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20071111171755.GC3038@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2007 15:27:28.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[88B2E820:01C82540] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems with building a patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:27:49 -0000 El día Sunday, November 11, 2007 a las 07:17:55PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas escribió: > On 2007-11-11 16:02, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I've build a patch for 'nn-6.7.3' to add support for RFC1522 to my > > beloved news-reader. Before giving it away I was trying it on a fresh > > workspace of the /usr/ports/news/nn and run into the problem that > > new files which brings the patch to the tree are always created > > in the current working dir, even if I create them before with touch(1), > > existing files, like 'answer.c' in the example below, get patched > > correctly: > > > > $ /usr/ports/news/nn/work > > $ touch nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 > > $ patch < ../myRFC1522.patch > > Hmm... Looks like a unified diff to me... > > The text leading up to this was: > > -------------------------- > > |diff -N -r -u -X exclude nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 > > |--- nn-6.7.3/PATCH.RFC1522 Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 > > |+++ nn-6.7.3.patched/PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 > > -------------------------- > > Here's the problem. > > The patch files for ports should *not* include the `nn-6.7.3' part, like > this one. They should be relative to the toplevel directory of the > unzipped/untarred port, i.e.: > > diff -N -u PATCH.RFC1522.orig PATCH.RFC1522 > --- PATCH.RFC1522.orig Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 > +++ PATCH.RFC1522 Sat Nov 10 11:04:58 2007 After a lot of tests I've found the solution: I'm creating the patch with: $ diff -Naur -X exclude nn-6.7.3 nn-6.7.3.patched > diff while having in 'nn-6.7.3' a 'make clean' version of the original tree and in 'nn-6.7.3.patched' a 'make clean' version of my modified source tree; the exclude file just says: $ cat exclude *.orig i.e. excludes the files *.orig which I also have in 'nn-6.7.3'; the trick is applying the patch as: $ cd /usr/ports/news/nn/work $ patch -p0 < ../.mywork/diff i.e. using the -p0; without -p0 the new files end up in the current directory, while with -p0 they get created in the right place. I've read the man page of patch again and again; it explains the function of -pN but not this effect :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 15:48:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC4D16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6FA13C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:61789 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IrbWN-0007DP-76 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 21812 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 16:48:17 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2007 16:48:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 16036 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Nov 2007 16:48:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:48:17 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Ashley Moran Message-ID: <20071112154817.GA15979@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ashley Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1IrbWN-0007DP-76. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1IrbWN-0007DP-76 1b78a0ea3cee7aa38e173bb83f721be4 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:48:35 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 03:26:00PM +0000, Ashley Moran wrote: > Hi > > I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI configuration > for some ports? Many people prefer to not have to read every single Makefile in the ports tree just to find out which options are available. It can also be nice having the chosen options automatically saved. > Simply put, they drive me up the wall. I've lost count of > the number of times I've come back to a big install to find it hanging on a > config screen. Possibly I'm missing something. > > The apache22 port is the latest one to join this crowd, although there is > an option to skip the GUI. I'm much happier using WITH_PROXY_MODULES or > whatever, and managing everything in pkgtools.conf. > > What is the best way to pre-configure GUI-configured ports? For example, > if I want to script an installation of several ports. 'make config-recursive' to pop up all the config-dialogs before you start building, or 'make BATCH=yes' to skip all the config-dialogs and just use the standard options. Reading the ports(7) manpage can be helpful to find out this kind of things. > > I've seen this: , is it what I'm > after? Doesn't look like it. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 15:52:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A138F16A469 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaikat@email.unc.edu) Received: from smtp.unc.edu (smtpsrv1.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F51E13C4B0 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:52:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaikat@email.unc.edu) Received: from [152.23.73.157] (dhcp29367.wireless.unc.edu [152.23.73.157]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unc.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lACFps83016192 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:51:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47387697.4020900@email.unc.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:51:51 -0500 From: Jay Aikat Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: DAG 4.5G4 card on FreeBSD 6.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:52:44 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install a DAG card (it's a traffic capture card from Endace Inc.) on a FreeBSD 6.1 system. I know this is a long shot, b/c there may not be too many folks using this hardware. I am also working with the Endace support folks who are not as responsive as I would like, hence my request for help here. Has anyone succesfully installed and used this card or any other DAG card on a FreeBSD 6.1 machine? If so, I would appreciate a note from you so I can send you more details of what my problem is, and can hopefully get it resolved. Thanks! --Jay. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:00:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E7116A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:1f1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3464C13C4B7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lACG0C2l098329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:00:19 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:00:17 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ashley Moran References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> In-Reply-To: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:00:40 -0000 Ashley Moran wrote: > Hi > > I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI > configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the wall. > I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a big install > to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm missing something. > > The apache22 port is the latest one to join this crowd, although there > is an option to skip the GUI. I'm much happier using WITH_PROXY_MODULES > or whatever, and managing everything in pkgtools.conf. > > What is the best way to pre-configure GUI-configured ports? For > example, if I want to script an installation of several ports. > > I've seen this: , is it what > I'm after? > I think what you want is the make config-recursive target which should go through the dependencies and do the gui config for them all, (after the first run the gui config saves the configs in /var/db/ports/$portname/options and shouldn't prompt a second time.) For apache22 it looks like setting WITHOUT_APACHE_OPTIONS=YES should disable the menu and let you go back to using pkgtools.conf although I haven't tested it. Its possible that setting BATCH=YES and using pkgtools.conf will work too but my understanding of the BATCH and INTERACTIVE makefile options are a little unclear. I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its sitting on the first dependency. Vince > Thanks for any advice > Ashley > > > -- > > blog @ http://aviewfromafar.net/ > linked-in @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleymoran > currently @ work > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:06:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A81616A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13E13C4C5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bjmccann@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1684893waf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:06:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=dHAThoMdGbJMBJ/Rx+14pC3bLBZdAfLwrngXcFi6fgI=; b=WmYN45htSEL3tnH9eETOnDAZRXcLFggM0tk8NQxtKO6VqJda2x6q/7G29uYB/oQzYXQA2hkrYkeGxRAjQjPRcFz3jTQdBMHmFmIGB749Bg2rYynt44vY2QYQlSI2XDLIE1GfBunEp+X5W/Z2aMmbuSnnSyf9o2YvzhTk3LWSPnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kh0w6rZeA4uQNL7v+qZm+9As294qxeEaxyu+VKgnfCmNBvFOSLhGVtZHXtR3L1m5i3kzJCbFr4hX8r21N7/VhwzabgTNDhy0VckZtxK4+rMvRmkXXqKd/Z2pMWJmyrHx4ZrySOMx+n3D5813MwXFOPpzOj8M8fQA+m2vAXDWktc= Received: by 10.114.94.1 with SMTP id r1mr1065280wab.1194881900414; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.56.16 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2b5f066d0711120738p6de5d875ib9c734640b4ba7d7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:38:20 -0500 From: "Brian McCann" To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:16 -0000 Hi all. I'm sure some of you have seen this, and I'm looking for some advice. I've got 2 servers now that will completely lockup (one is 6.1-p4, the other 6.2-p7), and just display this on the console: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 33, size: 4096 It repeats and continues to be frozen until I reboot the machine. The machine responds to ping, but that's about it. On one of my boxes, it appears to happen under heavy use (though this is not always the case...it's done it on me before when it's been completely idle). There should be no reason for either of these machines to swap...one of them has 4GB of RAM, the other has 2GB, and they never come close to using it all (based on our statistics). I've seen the various comments that it's probably bad hardware, but I haven't been able to find anything. I also saw there was a reference in the todo for 6.1 (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/todo.html) about this. Anyone know if there has been any updates to this? Anyone have any info that could help me out? Thanks, --Brian -- _-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_-=-_ Brian McCann "I don't have to take this abuse from you -- I've got hundreds of people waiting to abuse me." -- Bill Murray, "Ghostbusters" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:06:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B516A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B690913C480 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1684915waf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:06:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=on5cLmCOeWrLGCmBYATwv7lLM3CNBti4lzRhL2EUBvM=; b=iIZ4yW4gkQqzCuGixksrUj9C4LqrHEJTLnt8svUr8yRo88tTpvMX427IaoAkQoJhKOXXvxY6UnXRPSrJebT34RsbJ9f4NbBFhETGicbK7NXMMFigKG3VxzyjBztCt9gGCjkccCWU7lKuwzhowL2owk/79OsigidGy7t5tjrxNq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TOTy23lLARNUDpQnYPgSZCbCspjnK7H61MDBkdvQuJxNgJ8Rd8Co7w+LrmCIKFzgr7I29W2BC+ERnzlVqfj3wEzcicmI0ykWKeHXOxsgeDYJ50ZLXGeBb1DRrmnmDnCdWWZbHp0G+9kdWAq/jg+sSdFPHXsiQBjp96p3PW/Txeo= Received: by 10.114.75.1 with SMTP id x1mr1805601waa.1194883182837; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from p4 ( [66.75.108.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j26sm7783946waf.2007.11.12.07.59.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:59:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:59:38 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20071112055938.6e8570da@p4> In-Reply-To: <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:06:24 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:04:04 +0700 (ICT) Olivier Nicole wrote: > > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > > invested. YMMV > > > > http://xogiving.org/ > > That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this > is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving > laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... > > Olivier http://www.newsweek.com/id/41724 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:07:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E46416A469 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E053F13C4BD for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACG3m1p098817; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lACG3lLx098816; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:47 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: David Newman Message-ID: <20071112160347.GA98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:07:42 -0000 On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 05:22:06PM -0800, David Newman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'd welcome suggestions on how (or whether) to try to revive a SCSI > drive that's failing. to answer 'whether': don't. Get your stuff off from it as soon as possible and nuke it if it has anything sensitive at all. If it is a mirror or raid5 then you should be able to just replace it, but otherwise, back it up immediately and quit using it. Generally, if you start seeing a regular hard error, the drive is on its last legs. The errors only increase. You may be able to do things to get past this one error, but more will be coming. So, is answer to 'how': also don't. ////jerry > > This is on FreeBSD 6.2-RELENG on a Compaq Proliant DL320, onboard RAID > and two SCSI drives in a RAID1 array. > > Today this system rebooted and hung on Compaq's "what do you want the > RAID controller to do?" message. I told it to fix any errors. > > When I brought the system back up (after running fsck in single-user > mode), the log had lots of errors like this: > > Nov 10 09:00:40 mail kernel: ida0: hard write error > Nov 10 09:00:40 mail kernel: ida0: invalid request > Nov 10 09:01:48 mail last message repeated 35 times > Nov 10 09:03:49 mail last message repeated 571 times > Nov 10 09:12:27 mail last message repeated 796 times > > I vaguely remember trying about a year ago to load a SMART utility from > the ports collection but it wouldn't work on drives in a RAID array. > > Is there some other way to: > > a) diagnose/fix the errant disk here? > b) monitor the health of disks on a Compaq controller so it doesn't get > to this point to begin with? > > thanks in advance > > dn > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFHNlk+yPxGVjntI4IRAntlAJ9FWA2ez+BdnViq7mrIpkLBTLm/CgCfRyEA > czDvMn6+8KjlI3V0iBG4U3I= > =36+k > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:17:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6515016A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3937D13C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACGEGjF098863; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:14:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lACGEGiW098862; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:14:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:14:16 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: David Newman Message-ID: <20071112161416.GB98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> <64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com> <47372644.4060201@networktest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47372644.4060201@networktest.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:17:58 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 07:56:52AM -0800, David Newman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/10/07 9:09 PM, Modulok wrote: > >>> I'd welcome suggestions on how (or whether) to try to revive a SCSI > > drive that's failing. > > > > It depends on how valuable the data on the array is, and more > > importantly, how much funding you have at your disposal to fix the > > problem. If it were me, I would set aside the bad disk, connect a new > > disk to the card and re-synchronize the array. (Assuming one of the > > members still retains a good copy of the data.) Afterwards I would > > destroy, or toss the existing disk in the trash can (depending on the > > sensitivity of the data stored on it.) > > Thanks for your reply. > > An update: After doing what you suggest (leaving in the "good" disk, > adding a new disk, RAID rebuilding) I still got soft write errors -- > with *either one* of the disks I tried. > > Then I tried putting both disks in an identical server and they came up > fine, no read or write errors. > > Ergo, the bad RAID controller is bad and the disks may be OK. Probably not. Generally, if the RAID controller is bad, you will see errors all over and not it just one place, tho I suppose it is possible. Check and see what it reports as error locations and see if they move around any. A soft error is usually one that can be corrected within the limits of rereads and any error correction that the system is using. It may be that the error was introduced when the problems with the old disk was occuring so that there was an error written on to the other supposedly good disk and then mirrored to the new disk - errors can be preserved by mirroring too. Having said that, I don't know where this error is from. Try reading up and rewriting the data that is in the spot getting the error and then reading it from the new location. It is pretty hard to figure out and specifically rewrite one certain block on modern systems because the physical locations are virtual. Although you would expect the same sector number to be in the same place from one write to the next, if it happens that that sector gets remapped due to an error, then it will actually be a different physical location the next time and you don't really prove anything. But, it is worth experimenting with if you want. You can dd from and to any sector on the partition by carefully using skip counts and block counts. But, you have to figure out the location (sector number) first. Good luck, ////jerry > > >>> Is there some other way to: > >>> b)monitor the health of disks on a Compaq controller so it doesn't > > get to this point to begin with? > > > > There are various tools out there that attempt to 'monitor' the > > condition of disk drives to try and predict when failure is eminent. > > For valuable data, it is safer to setup a mirror and simply toss out > > bad disks as they fail. For extremely valuable data use a 3 disk > > array. With a 3 disk setup you will still be covered in the event that > > an additional disk craps out during the re-sync. > > > > To quote google's article on disk failure, regarding SMART: > > Right, I've heard it said that "SMART isn't." > > Nonetheless, I'd appreciate any suggestions to monitor the health of > disks -- and RAID controllers too -- on HP Proliant servers running FreeBSD. > > thanks again. > > dn > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFHNyZDyPxGVjntI4IRAqk1AKCUwByNOAJZwvtD9V21TZfyaMWaxgCdFSCZ > dZjf3ynK+4OffBzsDOawF9A= > =DUqc > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:45:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D2316A46C for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:45:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03EC13C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with smtp id BsJu1Y0091GXsuc0101w00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 Received: from fosgate.dyndns.org ([24.17.77.253]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BsZB1Y0065TuUQw0000000; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:33:12 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=81ABGVOTAAAA:8 a=GI2btvVDM69YpMaREQcA:9 a=FauehPSmlp0JqMvBhvtVGdl8cCMA:4 a=EI1Y7BXnmVQA:10 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fosgate.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D81D39851 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:10:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foster.cc Received: from fosgate.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sonar.foster.dmz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id byvirL5-TFdE for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:10:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (monk.foster.dmz [192.168.1.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by fosgate.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0558C3982B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 From: "Mark D. Foster" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:45:12 -0000 Vince wrote: > Ashley Moran wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI >> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the wall. >> I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a big install >> to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm missing something. >> > I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after a few > hours to a build that should have finished to find its sitting on the > first dependency. > Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP http://mark.foster.cc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:55:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776E416A46E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D1D13C4C5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACGor8V099010; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:50:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lACGoqaQ099009; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:50:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:50:52 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071112165052.GD98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: de-bsd-questions@de.freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:55:41 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:55:18PM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > Look what happened to Beastie: > > http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg Cute, but the eyes seem a little out of sync with the rest of the attention/address of the figure. Also legs are missing. Or, am I not viewing it with the right thing? Anyway, Check with the BSDie copyright holders to see if this is OK. I believe it is Kirk Mckusick. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 16:58:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A373516A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6997F13C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:58:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACGssUN099032; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:54:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lACGssLk099031; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:54:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:54:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Josh Carroll Message-ID: <20071112165453.GE98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:58:52 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:38:08PM -0500, Josh Carroll wrote: > > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within the OS? im > > trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling the thing > > from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata drives, not > > on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable of pulling > > the drive info). > > Check dmesg (or /var/run/dmesg.boot). The serial number should show, e.g.: > > ad8: 381553MB at ata4-master SATA150 Which is the serial? I see the extended model id. ////jerry > > Thanks, > Josh > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 17:19:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F65A16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07F5E13C4A7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: (qmail 33554 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Nov 2007 17:19:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.hk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MKH3iHwX80IGR8GLson9I3JzzbgRR18fUgnkzqNgh/JrwHxvgQGebq2Z/SxEb73hapqRuORAWde6FgRe7DytADdpD5fpFgLsaHbvgvdHNN0G912caEegSP2aTWtErq3NIu4zT1sNE7vbJNzFgEnUAbIAqMcIQCRE2Lz0nFfdRvs=; X-YMail-OSG: aMqYHHAVM1mSY5W6Fm.gvCCdkm7nOHly4fQIX0rpqaMH.FV_lwH_LC_ygtll1XSliCgdv5qHhbtfqz9SCNgE7qTpzyRqYW8eIHOoK7x31o5lLklAoxvAzwKypU7sfzWiwjtZl4riTEjHuckKkb_8swG2Bw-- Received: from [61.18.170.54] by web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:19:26 PST Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Dung To: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <63041.212.159.200.167.1194875048.squirrel@www.boosten.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <930599.33100.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: question about floating point calcuation with shell script / bc X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:19:35 -0000 Hello Peter Thanks, it work. Regards Patrick --- Peter Boosten wrote: > On Mon, November 12, 2007 14:01, Patrick Dung wrote: > > Hi > > > > > > I have a file with numbers in each line. > > Each number is a decimal number. > > My task is to add them up and get the final answer. > > > > > > I have searched with the search engine. > > I found bash cannot handle floating point calculation. > > > > > > I tried to use 'bc' and found if the final answer is < 1 (eg. 0.2) > > It display .2 instead of 0.2 (no leading zero). > > > > > > Any suggestion or other methods? > > I know ksh could do floating point calculation > > but I am now familiar with ksh. > > > > Try awk > > awk '{sum += $1} END {printf "%.2f\n", sum}' file > > assuming the file consists only of numbers in the first column. > > Peter > > > -- > http://www.boosten.org > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 17:23:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1603316A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:23:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC4513C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACHJo2K099147; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:19:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lACHJnke099146; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:19:49 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Alex Zbyslaw Message-ID: <20071112171949.GG98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <000f01c82212$c1b9e3c0$452dab40$@com> <47332EBE.3000900@gmail.com> <000a01c822b6$2f8ed060$8eac7120$@com> <47384AF7.4090106@gmail.com> <47386512.6080606@dial.pipex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47386512.6080606@dial.pipex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Si Thu , Andy Greenwood , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:23:35 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:37:06PM +0000, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Andy Greenwood wrote: > > >If you want the newer versions of software from the ports tree, don't > >limit your results by the tag. Basically, you're saying (IIRC) "I want > >the version of the port that was included with this release" instead > >of "I want the most recent version of this port." the release versions > >of the ports will only be updated for bug fixes, etc. > > Unless something has changed recently, this is not correct. > > The release versions of the ports are *never* updated for anything; not > security fixes, not features, nothing. The ports tree is not like, say, > Fedora Linux rpms. I think what you want to say may be correct, but this is confusing. Ports are updated all along as port maintainers get to it. In general the ports system does not have release identifiers. It is also not specifically tied to any release. It just happens that a particilar 'snapshot' of the condition of the ports tree is put on an ISO and for good measure, gets frozen a while to give time to check it out. But, as soon as that freeze is over (which pretty much corresponds to the timing of a base system RELEASE), updates begin again as the port maintainers get around to making improvements. So, a certain condition of the ports tree and the individual ports conceptually gets tied to a certain RELEASE, but in reality is not, since changes continue to be made and you will get the most recent condidition of the ports if you do an install over the net. You will get the 'RELEASE' condition only if you install only from the ISO-s. Now, when changes are made to ports, they should be tested against something and I don't know just what they get tested against between freezes. So, whether you csup your ports tree and install over the net or install from the ISO you have burned to a CD may depend on whether an updated version of a port will work with the stuff you are trying to install it over. You may have to test. Generally the latest version is the best, but sometimes the updates may have moved the port beyond where your base system is at the moment. Of course, you could also upgrade your base system - if you need that latest instantiation of the port. The point being that ports are almost continuously being updated except for that freeze period. But, there is no general-systemwide versioning system for the ports. So, in in the base system RELEASE sense, ports is not updated - there are no numbers to update. But it is updated, in the sense that improvement are continuously made - depending on the maintainer. ////jerry > > What you say is true of the *base* system, but not true for ports. > > Technically, the ports tree is not branched, because it's a) too much of > a maintenance burden and b) apparently CVS is likely to struggle, which > I can believe. > > The ports tree is *tagged* (not branched) when the release ISOs are > made, and those tags are never moved. > > For cv(s)uping ports there are only two reasonable tags, as far as I know: > > "." which means the latest ports tree or > > a date: when you desperately need to get back to the ports tree you had > say a week ago because it worked and your current one doesn't and you > are desperate. > > --Alex > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 17:24:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C1A16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:24:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: from mx1a.swcp.com (mx1a.swcp.com [216.184.2.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCE213C491 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: from ame2.swcp.com (ame2.swcp.com [216.184.2.119]) by mx1a.swcp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3sarge3) with ESMTP id lACFsSZJ019804 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:54:28 -0700 Received: from bogodyn.org (mail.bogodyn.org [69.49.164.40]) by ame2.swcp.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACFsP4T008447 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:54:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: from bogodyn.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bogodyn.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lACFsLBb029216; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:54:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from russo@bogodyn.org) Received: (from russo@localhost) by bogodyn.org (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id lACFsLjh029215; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:54:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from russo) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:54:21 -0700 From: Tom Russo To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112155421.GA66742@bogodyn.org> References: <20071109032615.E926016A480@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071109032615.E926016A480@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: International Institute for Advanced Quantum Bogodynamical Studies User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on ame2.swcp.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ame2.swcp.com [216.184.2.127]); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:54:27 -0700 (MST) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4731/Fri Nov 9 13:43:15 2007 on ame2.swcp.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Level: Subject: Re: Botched X.org upgrade, need help X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: russo@bogodyn.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:24:09 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 03:26:15AM +0000, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the flavor, containing: > On Thursday 08 November 2007, Andrew Falanga said: > > On Nov 8, 2007 12:37 PM, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > > Well, at last I think it's botched. I really was following the > > > directions [...] > > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module pcidata > > (II) UnloadModule: "pcidata" > > (EE) Failed to load module "pcidata" (module does not exist, 0) > > > > Fatal server error: > > Unable to load required base modules, Exiting... > I had a very similar experience, with the X server reporting missing modules immediately after I thought I'd followed the upgrade instructions to the letter (including the portupgrade -a, migrating all the /usr/X11R6 stuff with mergebase, and various nvidia-driver caveats). Turns out that in my case the xorg-drivers and xorg-fonts ports had not been added by the upgrade process, probably because I had a missing metaport in my previous install. That was the one block of caveats I apparently missed. In the end, I was able to just do a make install of the xorg metaport and it picked up the missing two, then I was back in business. Perhaps that's what's going on with you? Or perhaps not --- I see you also mentioned you hadn't updated ModulePath, and perhaps that was the only reason you are having problems? I didn't see a follow-up saying that was it. -- Tom Russo KM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/ Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236 AHTB#1 http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM "And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit!" --- The Tick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 17:26:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C9D16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail.networktest.com (mail.networktest.com [207.181.8.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF90913C4BE for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: by mail.networktest.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 9FE4578C53; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.networktest.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from dhcp254.eng.networktest.com (ns.networktest.com [207.181.8.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A9C78C4D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:26:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47388CCE.6080201@networktest.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:26:38 -0800 From: David Newman Organization: Network Test Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> <64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com> <47372644.4060201@networktest.com> <20071112161416.GB98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071112161416.GB98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:26:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/12/07 8:14 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > An update: After doing what you suggest (leaving in the "good" disk, > adding a new disk, RAID rebuilding) I still got soft write errors -- > with *either one* of the disks I tried. > > Then I tried putting both disks in an identical server and they came up > fine, no read or write errors. > > Ergo, the bad RAID controller is bad and the disks may be OK. > >> Probably not. >> Generally, if the RAID controller is bad, you will see errors >> all over and not it just one place, tho I suppose it is possible. >> Check and see what it reports as error locations and see if they >> move around any. Jerry, thanks for your response. After 36 hours of running the same disks in a different, identical machine there hasn't been a single read or write error. I'm hardly a storage expert but from the evidence I have I'm inclined to believe the root cause was a bad RAID controller and not failed disks. I'm aware of CLI tools to monitor 3Ware SATA RAID controllers. Anyone know if there are similar tools for HP/Compaq SCSI RAID controllers? thanks dn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHOIzOyPxGVjntI4IRAmMWAJ4grMR6mcL/j9qbcGY/fJfDEqv3KgCg8BVW wcHVDkZPykFcQzVYnp8mx+g= =8rws -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 17:57:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7E816A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EC913C4BE for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lACHrpsp099289; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:53:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lACHrpMl099288; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:53:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:53:51 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: David Newman Message-ID: <20071112175351.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com> <64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com> <47372644.4060201@networktest.com> <20071112161416.GB98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47388CCE.6080201@networktest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47388CCE.6080201@networktest.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:57:46 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 09:26:38AM -0800, David Newman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/12/07 8:14 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > > > An update: After doing what you suggest (leaving in the "good" disk, > > adding a new disk, RAID rebuilding) I still got soft write errors -- > > with *either one* of the disks I tried. > > > > Then I tried putting both disks in an identical server and they came up > > fine, no read or write errors. > > > > Ergo, the bad RAID controller is bad and the disks may be OK. > > > >> Probably not. > >> Generally, if the RAID controller is bad, you will see errors > >> all over and not it just one place, tho I suppose it is possible. > >> Check and see what it reports as error locations and see if they > >> move around any. > > Jerry, thanks for your response. > > After 36 hours of running the same disks in a different, identical > machine there hasn't been a single read or write error. I'm hardly a > storage expert but from the evidence I have I'm inclined to believe the > root cause was a bad RAID controller and not failed disks. That is not much proof. The different machine would probably be accessing the disks in a different way, either slightly different positioning or using different space. Also, 36 hours is not really much time. It could be you are right, but disks have a way of starting small in errors and then avalanching on you with accelerating volume of errors just when you begin to feel safe. You could be right, but is the price of a disk worth it - the price of a new RAID controller, for that matter? Replace them both. ////jerry > > I'm aware of CLI tools to monitor 3Ware SATA RAID controllers. Anyone > know if there are similar tools for HP/Compaq SCSI RAID controllers? > > thanks > > dn > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFHOIzOyPxGVjntI4IRAmMWAJ4grMR6mcL/j9qbcGY/fJfDEqv3KgCg8BVW > wcHVDkZPykFcQzVYnp8mx+g= > =8rws > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 18:08:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8495E16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad.albert@healthcarefirst.com) Received: from mail03.healthcarefirst.com (mail03.healthcarefirst.com [12.160.98.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5763E13C4B2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad.albert@healthcarefirst.com) Received: from hfmail02.sgf.helthcarefirst.med (hfmail02.sgf.healthcarefirst.med [10.16.0.4]) by mail03.healthcarefirst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85965F3A824 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:04:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from schmaptop.sgf.healthcarefirst.med (10.16.0.99) by hfmail02.sgf.healthcarefirst.med (10.16.0.4) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.751.0; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:04:54 -0600 Message-ID: <473887B4.8010206@healthcarefirst.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:04:52 -0600 From: Chad Albert User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.4pre) Gecko/20070925 Thunderbird/2.0.0.4pre Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HEALTHCAREfirst-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-HEALTHCAREfirst-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HEALTHCAREfirst-MailScanner-From: chad.albert@healthcarefirst.com Subject: 7.0 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:08:05 -0000 I have downloaded the 7.0 beta 2 ISO file for i386. I am trying to install it on an ASUS G1S laptop. 6.2 works very nicely all except support for the WIFI card (Intel 4965AGN). When I insert the Install CD and start going through the steps, it seems as if every key I press sends a ctrl key with it. When I choose to create a partition it just pops up and aks if I would like to abort or restart the install. Has anybody else seen this? I don't see a report of it anywhere, but I thought I would ask here before submitting a pr. TIA -- Chad Albert, MCSE, MCP+I From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 18:48:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FC916A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCE213C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACIm89W030428; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:48:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6A421B8FC; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:48:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:48:08 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Chad Albert Message-ID: <20071112184808.GA3003@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Chad Albert , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <473887B4.8010206@healthcarefirst.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473887B4.8010206@healthcarefirst.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 7.0 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:21 -0000 --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 11:04:52AM -0600, Chad Albert wrote: > I have downloaded the 7.0 beta 2 ISO file for i386. I am trying to insta= ll=20 > it on an ASUS G1S laptop. 6.2 works very nicely all except support for t= he=20 > WIFI card (Intel 4965AGN). When I insert the Install CD and start going= =20 > through the steps, it seems as if every key I press sends a ctrl key with= =20 > it.=20 If you have trouble with the installer, and you already have 6.2 on it, why don't you do a source upgrade as covered in the handbook? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHOJ/oEnfvsMMhpyURAhf/AJ4u9U84OcY6lflL5Q1k7sRnMWL51gCgrA1u G3mlT+RhU/mqPfUttrO1KYY= =MAtv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 18:53:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36AF16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B1613C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACIoofh057029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:50:51 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <20071112154817.GA15979@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20071112154817.GA15979@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Organization: Health Systems Trust X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.302 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:13 -0000 On Monday 12 November 2007 17:48, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 03:26:00PM +0000, Ashley Moran wrote: >> I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a big >> install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm missing >> something. [snip] >> What is the best way to pre-configure GUI-configured ports? For example, >> if I want to script an installation of several ports. > > 'make config-recursive' to pop up all the config-dialogs before you > start building[...] I discovered this recently. My big irritation, having decent bandwidth at work and a dialup at home, was fetching ``all'' the required sources for an overnight build on my laptop, finding in the morning that a dialog had popped up during the night and stopped the build, selecting a non-standard option and restarting only to find that it brought in a bunch more dependencies - over my phone line. I now run make config-recursive repeatedly until dialogs stop appearing, then fetch, then build. This recently cut down a build of X.org and KDE from a week (wall time) to less than 24 hours - from memory I ran make config-recursive three or four times on x11/kde3 alone. (Oh, I also got ADSL which helped with the downloads). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 18:53:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9840E16A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B39813C4B5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE121646E7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C7ED0502 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:35:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:35:02 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:53:46 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 "Mark D. Foster" wrote: > Vince wrote: > > Ashley Moran wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI > >> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the > >> wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a > >> big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm > >> missing something. > > I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after > > a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its > > sitting on the first dependency. > > > Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a > timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a > keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. > That would involve standing-over the build for hours or days in case you miss a 10-second window - it's just not practical IMO. Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set BATCH to take the default options From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:04:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5867C16A421 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:04:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9A013C4DA for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:04:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-155921.home.otenet.gr [85.75.152.175]) by kane.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lACJ4DYO013589 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:13 +0200 Message-ID: <4738A3AC.8090804@otenet.gr> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:12 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:04:27 -0000 RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 > "Mark D. Foster" wrote: > > >> Vince wrote: >> >>> Ashley Moran wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI >>>> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the >>>> wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a >>>> big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm >>>> missing something. >>>> >>> I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after >>> a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its >>> sitting on the first dependency. >>> >>> >> Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a >> timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a >> keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. >> >> > > That would involve standing-over the build for hours or days in case > you miss a 10-second window - it's just not practical IMO. > > > Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set BATCH > to take the default options > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > And in fact you can make all these screens appear before actually compiling: make config-recursive (select all wanted options) make install clean (no more questions asked) it is all in the manual: man ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:08:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6D416A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5853D13C4AC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 8319 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 19:07:52 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 19:07:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:06:28 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rmarella@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:08:01 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: >> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very >> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is >> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well >> invested. YMMV >> >> http://xogiving.org/ > > That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this > is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving > laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... You ought to actually _visit_ one or more of the schools that have practical computers for the kids. At least in my own experience, well, it's very disillusioning. The teachers have only a vague notion about what a compuiter is, so basically the students are given some games to waste their time with, and graded on how quiet they are while playing. The teachers themselves are usually actually frightened of the machines, so they react negatively to anyone who volunteers to teach computers. I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I won't contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only benefits big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:20:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CE216A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:20:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5649713C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 22264 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 19:20:13 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 19:20:13 -0000 Message-ID: <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:18:50 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:20:19 -0000 RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 > "Mark D. Foster" wrote: > >> Vince wrote: >>> Ashley Moran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI >>>> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the >>>> wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a >>>> big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm >>>> missing something. >>> I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after >>> a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its >>> sitting on the first dependency. >>> >> Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a >> timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a >> keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. >> > > That would involve standing-over the build for hours or days in case > you miss a 10-second window - it's just not practical IMO. > > > Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set BATCH > to take the default options A suggestion I recently made on the ports list would, as a side effect, make a better solution. You see, allowing a default timer does get things built, but then it allows no user input to let users avoid installing software that they either have no ise for, or do not want for other reasons. I have enough input now, so I'm going ahead and coding up the Makefile mods to allow my system, but it looks somewhat like the Gentoo Portage "USE" flags system. Not identical, and I am only proposing to use their USE flags, not the rest (I very much like using Makefiles as FreeBSD ports does, and wouldn't change that.) If you want to see what it is, go look at recent postings on ports list. It'll probably get changed, as I get something for folks to look at and discuss. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:26:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D75116A46D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1630013C4BD for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74A94858D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47EBFB841 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:26:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:26:28 +0000 References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: [OFFTOPIC] Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:26:44 -0000 On Monday 12 November 2007 19:06:28 Chuck Robey wrote: > > I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? > If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I won't > contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only benefits > big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. It is true that the companies that sell computers and software benefit, but the same could be said of companies that sell state-approved textbooks to schools (if you have seen those textbooks you know what I mean), the companies that sell shoes for sports, etc. There is one large software company that gives some software to schools and then gets a tax cut even though it benefits down the line when those kids grow up to buy that company's software because that is the software they know. I still think it is better for kids to know how to use computers, even if a few business people also benefit. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:31:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D860216A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8992C13C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:31:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACJV65x047385; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:31:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Wovtgm1ZNKLE; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:31:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lACJUqhg047381; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4738A9E6.30001@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:46 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:31:17 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: >>> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very >>> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is >>> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well >>> invested. YMMV >>> >>> http://xogiving.org/ >> >> That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this >> is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving >> laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... > > You ought to actually _visit_ one or more of the schools that have > practical computers for the kids. At least in my own experience, well, > it's very disillusioning. The teachers have only a vague notion about > what a compuiter is, so basically the students are given some games to > waste their time with, and graded on how quiet they are while playing. > The teachers themselves are usually actually frightened of the machines, > so they react negatively to anyone who volunteers to teach computers. > > I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? If > so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I won't > contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only benefits > big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. I'd say that it is possible your observations have clued you in on a large problem. Of course, it's likely not that way everywhere, but one result of a lack of teacher education re: computers is that people tend to think that they are computer literate if they can handle an office suite and use a pointy-clicky interface to build web "pages" --- which explains a few things about the culture at large. Another problem is that use of the Internet for research in writing papers, etc. often misses the crucial "old school" step of actually writing notes based on the books your read before you begin the paper. Recently I read a report by a 9th grader that was composed mostly of direct quotes from Wikipedia, et al, with no attribution whatsoever. "Copy n Paste" may work in elementary art classes, but it's no good in academic research unless great pains are taken to ensure understanding and proper attribution. And, this may be near the real heart of the issue. I don't think that many school administrators feel that games, educational or not, are the reason that schools should have computers. I think that, in large extent, computers were added when some of them discovered that the Internet could give you more volumes of information than the school library, without leaving your seat or requiring a hall pass. And that is why teachers should be a little more geeky, perhaps. Plugging a child's computer into the network without knowledgeable and *personal* guidance will pretty much guarantee that most kids end up on the baser end of the 'Net, rather than the best. And, for the most part, teachers are no less busy than they were 10, 20, or 30 years ago. My $.02, Kevin Kinsey -- There has been a little distress selling on the stock exchange. -- Thomas W. Lamont, October 29, 1929 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:40:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587ED16A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F22013C4A5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=51215 helo=attila) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Irf9D-0006Ax-T7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:40:41 +0800 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:09:20 +0330 From: "Bahman M." To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20071112230920.17bac37c@attila> In-Reply-To: <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:40:53 -0000 On 2007-11-12 Olivier Nicole wrote: > > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > > invested. YMMV > > > > http://xogiving.org/ > > That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this > is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving > laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... I second the idea. No doubt that OLPC is a great effort but I wonder how such ideas will be useful in 3rd world countries where the IT infrastructures are so poor that even dial-up Internet is not available in some towns, let alone villages and rural regions. I try to be not cynic but there are so many problems in education system that learning how to use a computer has a low priority. Anyway, let's hope OLPC will do what it's supposed to do. -- Bahman Movaqar Whenever there are great virtues, it's a sure sign something's wrong. -Bertolt Brecht From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:44:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5AB16A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6DE13C4AC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJi2aD008511 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:44:03 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (node233.245.100.208.1dial.com [208.100.245.233] (may be forged)) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJhwI6014599 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:44:00 -0800 Message-ID: <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:43:25 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.12.112112 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:44:22 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > RW wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 >> "Mark D. Foster" wrote: >> >>> Vince wrote: >>>> Ashley Moran wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI >>>>> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the >>>>> wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a >>>>> big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm >>>>> missing something. >>>> I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after >>>> a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its >>>> sitting on the first dependency. >>>> >>> Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a >>> timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a >>> keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. >>> >> >> That would involve standing-over the build for hours or days in case >> you miss a 10-second window - it's just not practical IMO. >> >> >> Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set BATCH >> to take the default options > > A suggestion I recently made on the ports list would, as a side > effect, make a better solution. You see, allowing a default timer > does get things built, but then it allows no user input to let users > avoid installing software that they either have no ise for, or do not > want for other reasons. I have enough input now, so I'm going ahead > and coding up the Makefile mods to allow my system, but it looks > somewhat like the Gentoo Portage "USE" flags system. Not identical, > and I am only proposing to use their USE flags, not the rest (I very > much like using Makefiles as FreeBSD ports does, and wouldn't change > that.) > > If you want to see what it is, go look at recent postings on ports > list. It'll probably get changed, as I get something for folks to > look at and discuss. USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers change variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however be a much better idea I think.. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:47:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387ED16A468 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3FFD513C4B2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:47:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Nov 2007 19:47:22 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 12 Nov 2007 20:47:22 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Z6RFFsV9ZfY+BGEge1zyRnsIX6hYw/LGtahW83E 4vSZEFjNpCHGy5 Message-ID: <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:47:20 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Chuck Robey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:47:56 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> RW wrote: >>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 >>> "Mark D. Foster" wrote: >>> >>>> Vince wrote: >>>>> Ashley Moran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI >>>>>> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the >>>>>> wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a >>>>>> big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm >>>>>> missing something. >>>>> I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after >>>>> a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its >>>>> sitting on the first dependency. >>>>> >>>> Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a >>>> timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a >>>> keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. >>>> >>> >>> That would involve standing-over the build for hours or days in case >>> you miss a 10-second window - it's just not practical IMO. >>> >>> >>> Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set BATCH >>> to take the default options >> >> A suggestion I recently made on the ports list would, as a side >> effect, make a better solution. You see, allowing a default timer >> does get things built, but then it allows no user input to let users >> avoid installing software that they either have no ise for, or do not >> want for other reasons. I have enough input now, so I'm going ahead >> and coding up the Makefile mods to allow my system, but it looks >> somewhat like the Gentoo Portage "USE" flags system. Not identical, >> and I am only proposing to use their USE flags, not the rest (I very >> much like using Makefiles as FreeBSD ports does, and wouldn't change >> that.) >> >> If you want to see what it is, go look at recent postings on ports >> list. It'll probably get changed, as I get something for folks to >> look at and discuss. > > USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). > Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary > and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers change > variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. > make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their > desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however > be a much better idea I think.. > -Garrett Are you talking about make config-recursive? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 19:51:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1E216A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6706013C48D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJpNUH010024 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:51:23 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (node233.245.100.208.1dial.com [208.100.245.233] (may be forged)) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJpJrg023263 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:51:22 -0800 Message-ID: <4738AE97.2030105@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:50:47 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chad Albert References: <473887B4.8010206@healthcarefirst.com> In-Reply-To: <473887B4.8010206@healthcarefirst.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.12.113131 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_800_899 0, ECARD_WORD 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 7.0 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:51:37 -0000 Chad Albert wrote: > I have downloaded the 7.0 beta 2 ISO file for i386. I am trying to > install it on an ASUS G1S laptop. 6.2 works very nicely all except > support for the WIFI card (Intel 4965AGN). When I insert the Install > CD and start going through the steps, it seems as if every key I press > sends a ctrl key with it. When I choose to create a partition it just > pops up and aks if I would like to abort or restart the install. Has > anybody else seen this? I don't see a report of it anywhere, but I > thought I would ask here before submitting a pr. > > TIA > > -- > > Chad Albert, MCSE, MCP+I I'd follow the suggestion made by RW and be sure to report this issue after looking at the following directions: . Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:02:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4E016A468 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DB313C4B6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:02:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay13.apple.com (relay13.apple.com [17.128.113.29]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A641905C0E; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:56:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay13.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay13.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4A1F328057; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:56:12 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1180711d-9f2bbbb0000008bf-7d-4738afdc0dfb Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay13.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 2CAD82804F; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:56:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3EC78ACF-EC2C-4E4A-8875-E684BF26B1E1@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Brian McCann In-Reply-To: <2b5f066d0711120738p6de5d875ib9c734640b4ba7d7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v912) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:56:12 -0800 References: <2b5f066d0711120738p6de5d875ib9c734640b4ba7d7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.912) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:02:41 -0000 On Nov 12, 2007, at 7:38 AM, Brian McCann wrote: > Hi all. I'm sure some of you have seen this, and I'm looking for some > advice. I've got 2 servers now that will completely lockup (one is > 6.1-p4, the other 6.2-p7), and just display this on the console: > > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 33, size: 4096 > > It repeats and continues to be frozen until I reboot the machine. It means that the swap system was unable to retrieve info from the disk in a reasonable period of time, and generally is a strong sign that the disk drive is in the final stages of failing. Running smartmonutils or a manufacturer's test utility is recommended.... -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:10:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DDE16A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B05AE13C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:10:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so886337nzf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:10:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=TmP2yNSSH9tYwl0fUubx5ZCP/nY485L6cWwHU7bjVi4=; b=e6qtODupDhHY4CcdIJ3UJp8hgwWjjgmSD7HQ+zRd9elj+D41qSfUXnvkbgEG8Lj9lArPh72sLaVNS1xzkBS4MPusci+dvwBp4iDJwOIP0IbksWF6FgBf+5d7Rgch+XMdZl0549z8MR5Yc/hdWkViBgSi9uC1qdpk055OKtPSUWQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=p5az1dX/cxrCreIE+kKhuYmjdjn37pjOJ9jmnaQb+4au4yKQ3KvG2X8bMljYMVZdKEMRQ/gvex3aurhmSle8SGm4/qc78kGbSfJaOrT7yAazR4tFjYI9orvMyG3uxR5LHU+dY0yBk1HaK6VEgbu6uhmlMsVLigEMGJiJN3GdtsE= Received: by 10.142.251.9 with SMTP id y9mr1274340wfh.1194896540255; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:42:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:42:20 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:10:40 -0000 According to my portaudit, cups-base has security problems, and I can't get samba going because of it. http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/8dd9722c-8e97-11dc-b8f6-001c2514716c.html According to the above URL, this problem affects v1.3.4, and 1.3.3_1 is the latest port, from the CVSUP I did today, and it errors out when doing a 'portupgrad -aRr' Seems I can't get there from here. Any suggestions on how to move forward with this? Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:14:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFDF16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7499E13C49D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B794D0A31 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:14:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:14:09 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112201409.600b152a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4738A3AC.8090804@otenet.gr> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A3AC.8090804@otenet.gr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:14:20 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:12 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > > > RW wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 > > > > Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set > > BATCH to take the default options > And in fact you can make all these screens appear before actually > compiling: > > make config-recursive > > (select all wanted options) > > make install clean (no more questions asked) Yes, but that doesn't work if you are doing a portupgrade -a, you then need to wrap the makes in a simple script, which is what I was referring to. Portmaster has something like this built-in. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:21:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B994116A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD6B13C4CB for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:21:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxsec@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1258ika for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pfX5TO93218wToSPJP68KhBD+Q+iGjbvEjMZvJKGgyY=; b=pnGxQ6FGzbSdWRVrDjaVZDVSG2dDlJHL66uqTVr6wGRB8TYyrhtgqXMSg//YunICU9AUhBEKQIvcSHCShraqiPFaeGtGylyAtQ717YInx6HSvwcT0XficdoImXfOGI7pREChhQ/Dkuzx5BqveG2ayM9iUmYwy0TJfux3GOxyGJo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oWlZKG3ir0d4Xmmzwpt1hj1AqsSfPpIK93PTn4uLNpDli1ChsKVv7Wk2NHt3j3YvFUdsSVOdoZdHY45CFBxhVbHtx8QjTsy5LzB74D/FFbg1vUGKgwndyqpc06/PjXQD7BbaenPMqE7HW7XqiP9Lk7NcSFM1J5YxfkXaqTTCJRg= Received: by 10.150.98.18 with SMTP id v18mr866680ybb.1194898873185; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.181.21 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:21:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <72cf361e0711121221w76334390l27f4816b2b23420@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:21:13 +0000 From: "Martin Hepworth" To: "Bahman M." In-Reply-To: <20071112114508.04daf64b@attila> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> <72cf361e0711110826h219cef9ah1a24f856f947d35b@mail.gmail.com> <20071112114508.04daf64b@attila> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Claws+spamd: No spam is detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:21:26 -0000 ah - must read better, thought you said clam ;-) try the claws users email list.. claws-mail-users-subscribe@dotsrc.org -- Martin On Nov 12, 2007 8:15 AM, Bahman M. wrote: > > On 2007-11-11 Martin Hepworth wrote: > > HI > > > > you need to tell the MTA to pass email through spamassassin/clamav > > somehow. Depending on what you're MTA is (sendmail/exim/postfix etc) > > its different. > > > > try "sendmail spamassassin" for example in google.. > > > > -- > > martin > > > > On Nov 11, 2007 4:13 PM, Bahman M. wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have Claws-Mail and spamd installed (from ports) and although I > > > have been using this combination -I've been been manually marking > > > all spams as 'spam'- for more than 2 months, still _no_ spam > > > message is detected. > > > > > > I've followed the instructions on Claws/spamd wiki. I've got the > > > followings in /etc/rc.conf: > > > spamd_enable="YES" > > > spamd_flags="-C /usr/local/etc/spamd -i 127.0.0.1 -p 783 -u > > > spamd -d -l" > > > Also Claws configuration parameters exactly match the spamd_flags > > > above. > > > > > > > > > System information: > > > % uname -a > > > FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #2: Fri Sep 7 > > > 14:23:40 IRST 2007 root@attila:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HELIUM i386 > > > > > > % spamd -V > > > SpamAssassin Server version 3.2.3 > > > running on Perl 5.8.8 > > > with SSL support (IO::Socket::SSL 1.08) > > > with zlib support (Compress::Zlib 2.006) > > > > > > % claws-mail --version > > > Claws Mail version 3.0.0 > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? What should I do to enable Claws/spamd > > > detect spam? I'd appreciate any hint/help. > > You mean spam doesn't get detected unless I run a MTA -configured to > pass emails to spamd? > > I thought Claws could communicate with spamd on its own without any need > to a MTA (corrections?). > > -- > Bahman Movaqar > > Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little > Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. > -Benjamin Franklin > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:29:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5167416A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F97713C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236B0680036C2; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:32:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id I0loymIn0vOb; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 04AE268002901; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:32:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:32:12 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112203212.GA12705@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:54 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007, Pollywog wrote: >On Monday 12 November 2007 19:06:28 Chuck Robey wrote: >> >> I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? >> If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I won't >> contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only benefits >> big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. > >It is true that the companies that sell computers and software benefit, but >the same could be said of companies that sell state-approved textbooks to >schools (if you have seen those textbooks you know what I mean), the >companies that sell shoes for sports, etc. There is one large software >company that gives some software to schools and then gets a tax cut even >though it benefits down the line when those kids grow up to buy that >company's software because that is the software they know. The biggest problem I see with computers in classrooms is that they distract the student's attention from the teacher. I know that I have to back away from my computer completely when talking on the phone, unless I'm doing direct support at the time, because I find myself distracted from the conversation. I'll leave it at that as I don't want to take this in the direction of government schools as indoctrination centers. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 We shouldn't elect a President; we should elect a magician. Will Rogers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:32:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE4916A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from costin.alupului@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE6B13C494 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:32:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from costin.alupului@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i10so1813313mue for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:32:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=1m0SR/bAjpFJBqxDixwPDvBU09ModzTQUGasob0mcQU=; b=Moms0KtLIPTdUW8i8ZEekLUBx9Dj/tIbnwVQiSHBb0EQlmH9rIxp2tRnZvN/n8h9gIltVo4/AU/mjFedtOTws68shw3Ctm0NjzRbzPSPH34cy1PjC8udzItvr08hw0om8N56BJu+i9KUDv7GbMck/xrVUAb7QbjE9pjT95DcJmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Qs0b2AOAG1nlkzw7pF4CNeWui88nG9VMR2VWFex7n6g4X8ILHipfUYwGL4GN1Kh9VGEb824KetjdI0OOYAHyUD2QvhBBwb2YVzQbCgYke2xjEZPjcqfWTwWT8tH6RuqQm7KzDK57S0ev+lIcIz5QUdgnX1dlZOswgyHFqWkmq3c= Received: by 10.82.183.19 with SMTP id g19mr12685820buf.1194898083577; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.167.12 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:08:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:08:03 +0200 From: "Alupului Costin" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:32:43 -0000 Hello all, I seem to have quite a problem with PF. I have set up a bridge to shape my upstream traffic. I use ALTQ with hfsc discipline; but that's not really important. My problem comes with the filter rules. I have to use keep state because of the speed benefits (really I don't have a choice), but PF has a problem when the clients passing traffic through the bridge use TCP window scaling. Here is an example of four filter rules that I thought should work to pass the traffic from one client through the bridge and create a state: pass in quick on vlan0 from any to anIP/32 pass out quick on vlan0 from anIP/32 to any keep state queue ul_client pass in quick on vlan1 from anIP/32 to any pass out quick on vlan1 from any to anIP/32 keep state queue dl_client The above rules generate state-mismatches. I thought that would be because pf doesn't see the SYN packet, although it does (one of the out rules) and should create the state then... I tried writing all the rules with keep state (even the inbound ones) but then nothing would work at all. My intention was to create if-bound states, but I switched back to floating states in the hope that pf would associate the state created by an outbound rule with the traffic returning on another interface of the bridge; still didn't work. I have read the man page for if_bridge and set the following sysctl variables: net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 1 net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 0 net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 I have also read some posts on the web that said that pf simply doesn't have all the hooks necesary to do the filtering inbound and outbound, but reading the pfil man page I seem to disaggree with that. Has anyone encountered the same problem? And, more important: if i give up the bridge setup and switch to routing, would that have any effect? I.E: will I then be able to use keep state with the inbound rules? Any help at all would be hugely appreciated as I am trying for about a week to sort out this problem and can't seem to get any closer. The only solution was to kindly ask my clients using TCP window scaling (Vista mostly) to turn off this feature... Now I am seriously considering bumping my bridge to a router but I am not sure that the problem will be solved then. Oh, here is the setup of the bridge from rc.conf, although there shouldn't be any problems there (the bridge works fine without pf, or with pf stateless): # # Core: em2 -> vlan1 # Border: em1 -> vlan0 # Bridge0 vlan0 -><- vlan1 # cloned_interfaces="bridge0 vlan0 vlan1" ifconfig_em0="up" ifconfig_em1="up" ifconfig_em2="up" ifconfig_vlan0="vlan 132 vlandev em1 up" ifconfig_vlan1="vlan 132 vlandev em2 up" ifconfig_bridge0="addm vlan0 addm vlan1 up" # Admin iface ifconfig_em0="inet adminIP netmask 255.255.255.0" Regards, Costin Alupului From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:37:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8990C16A46D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6170913C4BF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACDCD0501 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:37:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:37:09 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112203709.42decddd@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:37:21 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:18:50 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: > > Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set > > BATCH to take the default options > > A suggestion I recently made on the ports list would, as a side > effect, make a better solution. I don't see why it would. It wouldn't eliminate the config screens - many, if not most, of the existing options couldn't be handled like that. I find the config screens to be a useful way of keeping on top of new functionality, and it's pretty trivial to get them out of the way at the start of an upgrade. All that's really needed is to add this feature (that portmaster already has) to portupgrade. What I've found to be a more awkward problem is ports with interactive deinstall scripts. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:41:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB3716A46C for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B4113C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so721422wra for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:40:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=EvsCm3toK+u7ijph0M5tDF8UNm5Qh7BQp6n1Y9sfkDA=; b=GiQEtgg2Z14bmh6TAsqJ1g1M4+zs9g6f3EqHQKL9C69tUdiyZC94H41sapdDZq3jPZVy+nET1nibjCaRpBQ2quTZqB+UsJUZqgbDCmzTe1XEZS8WOOUjtVMUo3ESv21eEobsBc6pDfKlT2vIVkoo1hlRrnvRzM7a1if9vUvjDX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=LzyoH282NEx6NGf/Rm24v39y2NSuUuCBBTw2tB+oeuJkDIIoZgJrVBm3STJ/1K7JKTjzlIqpe0c6no0ls+pyLqCaTszqNeeLmulAcnSFPiC5rqebB2Skmvo+iCsySijSqygE1wOEzIvjoKZIWoqeIGQP6WaTVYiKHVamHQcOSC0= Received: by 10.100.231.16 with SMTP id d16mr8205183anh.1194900020867; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-59-111.engr.tivo.com ( [204.176.49.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c27sm7653278ana.2007.11.12.12.40.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:40:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <553BA14A-1F82-4DF7-9FB9-6DDFE89B581D@gmail.com> From: Joe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v912) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:40:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.912) Subject: freebsd-update fetching files failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:41:02 -0000 How can I troubleshoot these errors below? * The tool does report anything useful other than "failed". * There does not appear to be a logfile for failures. * There does not appear to be any debug options. Also, /var/db/freebsd-update # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 18 patches. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 17 files... failed. # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 1 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature from update1.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. Fetching 16 patches. done. Applying patches... done. Fetching 15 files... failed. Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan 12 11:05:30 UTC 2007 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2790.72-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features = 0xbfebfbff < FPU ,VME ,DE ,PSE ,TSC ,MSR ,PAE ,MCE ,CX8 ,APIC ,SEP ,MTRR ,PGE ,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE> Yes, I patched freebsd-update according to: http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-EN-07:05.freebsd-update.asc From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:44:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE7A16A421 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8174A13C480 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=55777 helo=attila) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Irg8z-0000wX-Nm; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:44:31 +0800 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:13:10 +0330 From: "Bahman M." To: "Martin Hepworth" Message-ID: <20071113001310.588d8190@attila> In-Reply-To: <72cf361e0711121221w76334390l27f4816b2b23420@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> <72cf361e0711110826h219cef9ah1a24f856f947d35b@mail.gmail.com> <20071112114508.04daf64b@attila> <72cf361e0711121221w76334390l27f4816b2b23420@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Claws+spamd: No spam is detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:44:51 -0000 On 2007-11-12 Martin Hepworth wrote: > ah - must read better, thought you said clam ;-) > > try the claws users email list.. > > claws-mail-users-subscribe@dotsrc.org > > -- > Martin > > On Nov 12, 2007 8:15 AM, Bahman M. wrote: > > > > On 2007-11-11 Martin Hepworth wrote: > > > HI > > > > > > you need to tell the MTA to pass email through spamassassin/clamav > > > somehow. Depending on what you're MTA is (sendmail/exim/postfix > > > etc) its different. > > > > > > try "sendmail spamassassin" for example in google.. > > > > > > -- > > > martin > > > > > > On Nov 11, 2007 4:13 PM, Bahman M. > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have Claws-Mail and spamd installed (from ports) and although > > > > I have been using this combination -I've been been manually > > > > marking all spams as 'spam'- for more than 2 months, still _no_ > > > > spam message is detected. > > > > > > > > I've followed the instructions on Claws/spamd wiki. I've got > > > > the followings in /etc/rc.conf: > > > > spamd_enable="YES" > > > > spamd_flags="-C /usr/local/etc/spamd -i 127.0.0.1 -p 783 -u > > > > spamd -d -l" > > > > Also Claws configuration parameters exactly match the > > > > spamd_flags above. > > > > > > > > > > > > System information: > > > > % uname -a > > > > FreeBSD attila 6.2-RELEASE-p7 FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 #2: Fri > > > > Sep 7 14:23:40 IRST 2007 > > > > root@attila:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/HELIUM i386 > > > > > > > > % spamd -V > > > > SpamAssassin Server version 3.2.3 > > > > running on Perl 5.8.8 > > > > with SSL support (IO::Socket::SSL 1.08) > > > > with zlib support (Compress::Zlib 2.006) > > > > > > > > % claws-mail --version > > > > Claws Mail version 3.0.0 > > > > > > > > What am I doing wrong? What should I do to enable Claws/spamd > > > > detect spam? I'd appreciate any hint/help. > > > > You mean spam doesn't get detected unless I run a MTA -configured to > > pass emails to spamd? > > > > I thought Claws could communicate with spamd on its own without any > > need to a MTA (corrections?). Will do. Thanks, -- Bahman Movaqar One who is allowed to sin, sins less. -Ovid From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:46:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BE216A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0240D13C4BC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 5347 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 20:46:15 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 20:46:14 -0000 Message-ID: <4738BB3D.5040905@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:44:45 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200711121926.29063.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:46:23 -0000 Pollywog wrote: > On Monday 12 November 2007 19:06:28 Chuck Robey wrote: >> I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? >> If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I won't >> contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only benefits >> big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. > > It is true that the companies that sell computers and software benefit, but > the same could be said of companies that sell state-approved textbooks to > schools (if you have seen those textbooks you know what I mean), the > companies that sell shoes for sports, etc. There is one large software > company that gives some software to schools and then gets a tax cut even > though it benefits down the line when those kids grow up to buy that > company's software because that is the software they know. Yeah, but in this case, I know more: a lady friend of mine was an editor for a large educational publishing house. Those places (and more specifically the folks that work in them) are rather embarrassed at having to put all that garbage into state textbooks, but the state boards of education require it. They don't want to do it, but they have to, to be able to sell their product. The local state officials are at fault here, not the companies nor those who work for them. I used to listen by the hour to complaints about the stupidity and cupidity of those state officials, from that lady. > I still think it is better for kids to know how to use computers, even if a > few business people also benefit. Hmm. Several of the classes I walked into were disappointing to me, where the kids were made to feel good at being able to play computer games well. If you think that's good for kids, it's your money, I suppose. The teachers were given no training whatever in computers, so they had no ability to do better. I would not contribute to such an item. A program that produces better educational software, that I could see, but not giving computers to schools, that is very counter-productive. Let them eat Doom! I think we should move this to FreeBSD-chat. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:49:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9B116A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C399313C4AC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJq43g010255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:52:05 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (node233.245.100.208.1dial.com [208.100.245.233] (may be forged)) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJpxCt023338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:52:02 -0800 Message-ID: <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:51:27 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.12.113131 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Chuck Robey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:49:23 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > Garrett Cooper wrote: > >> Chuck Robey wrote: >> >>> RW wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:14:02 -0800 >>>> "Mark D. Foster" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Vince wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ashley Moran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI >>>>>>> configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the >>>>>>> wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a >>>>>>> big install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm >>>>>>> missing something. >>>>>>> >>>>>> I agree though, I often suffer the same problem, coming back after >>>>>> a few hours to a build that should have finished to find its >>>>>> sitting on the first dependency. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Maybe it's been suggested before (in which case I add my vote) but a >>>>> timeout mechanism would solve this... give the user 10s to provide a >>>>> keypress else bailout and use the "default" options. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That would involve standing-over the build for hours or days in case >>>> you miss a 10-second window - it's just not practical IMO. >>>> >>>> >>>> Setting the menus is pretty easy to script, and you can also set BATCH >>>> to take the default options >>>> >>> A suggestion I recently made on the ports list would, as a side >>> effect, make a better solution. You see, allowing a default timer >>> does get things built, but then it allows no user input to let users >>> avoid installing software that they either have no ise for, or do not >>> want for other reasons. I have enough input now, so I'm going ahead >>> and coding up the Makefile mods to allow my system, but it looks >>> somewhat like the Gentoo Portage "USE" flags system. Not identical, >>> and I am only proposing to use their USE flags, not the rest (I very >>> much like using Makefiles as FreeBSD ports does, and wouldn't change >>> that.) >>> >>> If you want to see what it is, go look at recent postings on ports >>> list. It'll probably get changed, as I get something for folks to >>> look at and discuss. >>> >> USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). >> Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary >> and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers change >> variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. >> make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their >> desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however >> be a much better idea I think.. >> -Garrett >> > > Are you talking about make config-recursive? > Yes =\. Lemme guess.. that's already an option :)? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:55:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EA616A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E54213C49D for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from js.lists@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so266892ana for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:55:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XcGjDUD3mIaZeBmK0ZSc9hMFJMCH89FCXwJBxzQP6NY=; b=N5T0KiyfGzMab23K5foEAAPQRTOSxOW+hK6g5wLYvkIzEU3ySMSlvzgGaOnU8tcGPGq+NbBMdP0ZD3aj/TgSqV7vsqkqqCVeYUrxGZPgiPTqqDMt8Qz36KqVkWyslFN4Q9B3MHMwuffxJ0FlI14+btin74ECL1j6rMgI0TQ6OC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dNAt0P/v6UOYtgPyHpdJp21c88h90IH9716YxlqQAMbmrIfJL+JPyfoyDhJq9eoP9Wi+gzXWvJ/nnqJPbU6PxPR/RSGGcEO2nsgjfbrN2qQHlSyTF/q93H5i5iZTaUKbzAEwfLbz1FgjK+o3JyOqCRGXIMjAN5AqLR0+60SCrho= Received: by 10.100.211.8 with SMTP id j8mr8221849ang.1194900929510; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.27.20 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:55:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:55:29 -0800 From: "Joe S" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <553BA14A-1F82-4DF7-9FB9-6DDFE89B581D@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <553BA14A-1F82-4DF7-9FB9-6DDFE89B581D@gmail.com> Subject: Re: freebsd-update fetching files failed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:44 -0000 My apologies to the list. Mail.app and Gmail IMAP don't play well together. Apparently every time Mail.app auto saves a draft copy, gmail sends the email. That's bad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 20:56:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A04816A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741C213C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2007 15:56:38 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JIB40845; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:56:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2007 15:55:32 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18232.48642.463639.901784@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:56:34 -0500 To: "Bahman M." In-Reply-To: <20071112230920.17bac37c@attila> References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20071112230920.17bac37c@attila> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:56:47 -0000 Bahman M. writes: > On 2007-11-12 Olivier Nicole wrote: > > That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this > > is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving > > laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... > > I second the idea. > > No doubt that OLPC is a great effort but I wonder how such ideas > will be useful in 3rd world countries where the IT > infrastructures are so poor that even dial-up Internet is not > available in some towns, let alone villages and rural regions. I > try to be not cynic but there are so many problems in education > system that learning how to use a computer has a low priority. The problem I have always had with this is computer use does not exist in a vacuum; it changes, and is changed by, the society in which it happens. If I look at the countries of the "first world", I see places that have walked the path from the written word to the telegraph to the telephone to the computer. At each step they've tested the new technology, learning what it can and cannot do, discovering stuff the inventors never even imagined, discarding ideas that are techically problematic or culturally unpalatable, and adapting to it as it adapted to them. Now consider dropping 100,000 OLPC on a country where the (median and mode) hardware layer is paper and ink, the government - often autocratic and kleptocratic - cannot manage to install and run a 1950's era phone system, and religious leaders fulminate against imunization as a "foreign plot". Even under the best of circumstaces exactly what do people reasoaly expect to happen? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:01:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7397F16A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE9313C4B5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 5DE6D6190; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB77260E3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.1/8.13.4/Submit) id lACKt00e001832 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:55:00 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:54:59 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112205459.GA1076@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Cc: Subject: watchdog timeout (missed Tx interrupts) on 7-BETA2(i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:01:33 -0000 --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, $ uname -a FreeBSD torus.slightlystrange.org 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sun Nov 1= 1 00:34:39 GMT 2007 root@torus.slightlystrange.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys= /TORUS i386 nfe0: port 0xe400-0xe407 mem= 0xf0105000-0xf0105fff irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0 I'm seeing a lot of these: nfe0: watchdog timeout (missed Tx interrupts) -- recovering when the system is under heavy network load (my ports distfiles are NFS mounted from another box, so trying to extract, e.g., the OpenOffice source, is enough to cripple the box). When the demand for network resources has calmed down again, it usually comes back up without any further intervention. My kernel is simply a pared-down version of GENERIC (that is, I have only removed drivers that I don't need, and have added nothing to it).=20 The same device worked adequately under 6.2-RELEASE with the nve driver. It is only since moving to 7-BETA2 and its default nfe driver that the problem has manifested. Google shows that other people have had similar problems with the nfe driver, but under 6.2-RELEASE on i386 and amd64, and no real solutions are offered up in the archives (none that I found, anyway). I saw a couple of suggestions that it might be down to the device sharing and interrupt channel, but that's not the case here: vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq0: clk 2709144 1000 irq1: atkbd0 10079 3 irq5: nvidia0+ 192988 71 irq6: fdc0 11 0 irq8: rtc 346692 128 irq10: nfe0+ 3300 1 irq11: pcm0 ohci0+ 93174 34 irq15: ata1 22 0 Total 3355410 1239 If they're of any use or interest: dmesg - http://catflap.slightlystrange.org/dmesg.txt pciconf -vl - http://catflap.slightlystrange.org/pciconf-l-v.txt kernel config - http://catflap.slightlystrange.org/kernel.txt sysctl -a - http://catflap.slightlystrange.org/sysctl-a.txt I would appreciate any insights or hints as to what I might do to=20 fix this. Many thanks for your time, Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHOL2jixf5fBYiFmoRAh6LAJ4gnBFRi5gMj48kOJYsFBtZQN5r5wCgrQCZ jENu4TEHjwy/QIeZa+r2K2w= =BwLT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:04:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A16A16A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C8113C4BE for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 29855 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 21:04:08 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 21:04:07 -0000 Message-ID: <4738BF6E.6050902@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:02:38 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:04:16 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: >> If you want to see what it is, go look at recent postings on ports >> list. It'll probably get changed, as I get something for folks to >> look at and discuss. > > USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). > Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary > and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers change > variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. > make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their > desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however > be a much better idea I think.. > -Garrett Good point. My main drive is to stop asking users to OK dependencies to specific pieces of software (which most users haven't the least idea about), and also to move the gathering of data out of ports-compile-time and into system-install-time (perhaps with an update feature as hardware changes). The way that Gentoo did it, if followed slavishly, yes, I agree it would just leaad to more confusion. I got the feeling that you are asking for a ncurses sort of app, that would gather data, and tjhen be used to control the setting of dependencies? Is that right? I would think that the linkage between the program amd the ports could be a list like the Gentoo USE lists, but without any direct interface to it, so building and maintaining the list becomes the responsibility of the program and not clueless users. That more what you see? I could live with that quiurte easily. But, such a system is more than could be written directly either in Make or using sh ... I mean, you _could_ use sh, but the software would be too complicated to maintain. Could I use some tool? I would not exactly love doing it in C, but I guess I could do that (I'd rather use something like Python, but it's not available in the base, and I think I would want this available at system install time. Please, comment more, I think I like the way you're driving this, so let me see if I have really gotten your idea. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:12:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC3516A46E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAECA13C4A6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 6807 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2007 21:11:59 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Nov 2007 21:11:59 -0000 Message-ID: <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "\[LoN\]Kamikaze" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, RW Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:12:32 -0000 Garrett Cooper wrote: > [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >> Garrett Cooper wrote: >> USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). >>> Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary >>> and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers change >>> variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. >>> make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their >>> desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however >>> be a much better idea I think.. >>> -Garrett >>> >> >> Are you talking about make config-recursive? >> > Yes =\. Lemme guess.. that's already an option :)? I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with no inpput whatever. These are both bad options. Also, asking users to pick if a particular piece of software, one that they most liely have never heard of, can be used, is not a particularly good way to get the info either. Gentoo's idea of a USE list has some good points, and some bad points. The worst part is that keeping that USE list corect is too damn difficult. BUT if we made that list private, so be manipulated solely by a more intelligent program, one that could ask better quetions, and let that maintain the list, that would stop the ports-build-time interruptions, and also make things much much easier for users, even technical users, to administer. Just don't let folks need to maintain that list themselves. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:22:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E9D16A41A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:22:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (mail.geekisp.com [216.168.135.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A603D13C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:22:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: (qmail 2048 invoked by uid 1003); 12 Nov 2007 14:15:58 -0000 Received: from 192.60.228.173 (proxying for 192.60.228.173) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mbaki@whywire.net) by www.geekisp.com with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:14:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <17039.192.60.228.173.1194876898.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:14:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Monah Baki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Error installing plone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:22:50 -0000 Hi all, I'm trying to install on Freebsd 6.3 plone from ports. I keep geting the error message libtool: link: `gscanner.lo' is not a valid libtool object gmake[4]: *** [libglib.la] Error 1 gmake[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22/glib-1.2.8' gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22/glib-1.2.8' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22/glib-1.2.8' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xproto. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXau. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libX11. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/tk84. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-tkinter. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/plone. Thanks BSD Networking, Microsoft Notworking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:31:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6C716A46B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:31:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB3F13C4B8 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:31:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so269138ana for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.232.13 with SMTP id e13mr2386263anh.1194902687529; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 32sm4028928aga.2007.11.12.13.24.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:24:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:25:47 -0500 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20071112201409.600b152a@gumby.homeunix.com.> References: <4738A3AC.8090804@otenet.gr> <20071112201409.600b152a@gumby.homeunix.com.> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0IyMg7+5fri vGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1t k89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDYIpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFHoo+5Sd lf/tWp6DJObHzDff7Mrhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kILrLv5ikK1 5DyF3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sCri6PHpq9dR QsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2gnBkgWnQ/hWIPQ2m6ilKKz TJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVrGIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhLkBUsZyQXDxxIWG H0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1Bd77AqTqzlX6MlVv4 2gecAUFc9NfhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLAEugLVywa9PyzUATjut hxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltVsoBKXh+ATB9KqEodufgO UDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENXyOfpFXvQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGm m142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffRwC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Message-Id: <20071112162148.0F5E.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.42 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:31:06 -0000 On November 12, 2007 at 03:14PM RW wrote: [ ... ] > Yes, but that doesn't work if you are doing a portupgrade -a, you then > need to wrap the makes in a simple script, which is what I was referring > to. Portmaster has something like this built-in. =46rom man PORTUPGRADE(1): -- batch Run an upgrading process in a batch mode (with BATCH=3Dyes) --=20 Gerard It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out t= hat the emperor has no clothes. But the half-wit remains a half-wit, and the emperor remains an emperor.=20 Neil Gaiman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:35:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FAA16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636E713C4BF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:35:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so4397ika for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:35:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.39.9 with SMTP id m9mr56654wxm.1194903311607; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i11sm7174291wxd.2007.11.12.13.35.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:35:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:36:11 -0500 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0IyMg7+5fri vGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1t k89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDYIpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFHoo+5Sd lf/tWp6DJObHzDff7Mrhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kILrLv5ikK1 5DyF3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sCri6PHpq9dR QsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2gnBkgWnQ/hWIPQ2m6ilKKz TJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVrGIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhLkBUsZyQXDxxIWG H0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1Bd77AqTqzlX6MlVv4 2gecAUFc9NfhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLAEugLVywa9PyzUATjut hxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltVsoBKXh+ATB9KqEodufgO UDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENXyOfpFXvQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGm m142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffRwC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Message-Id: <20071112162746.0F61.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.42 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:35:52 -0000 On November 12, 2007 at 02:42PM Kurt Buff wrote: > According to my portaudit, cups-base has security problems, and I > can't get samba going because of it. > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/8dd9722c-8e97-11dc-b8f6-001c2514716c.html > > According to the above URL, this problem affects v1.3.4, and 1.3.3_1 > is the latest port, from the CVSUP I did today, and it errors out when > doing a 'portupgrad -aRr' > > Seems I can't get there from here. > > Any suggestions on how to move forward with this? Have you tried adding the following to your /etc/make.conf file? DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes -- Gerard No matter how rich you become, how famous or powerful, when you die the size of your funeral will still pretty much depend on the weather. Michael Pritchard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:37:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C4A16A476 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72D813C480 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmarella@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so4722ika for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:37:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x7+6z3Qgd6N9o5YiR6JaAjyjQdM5IPKQaKC9fqeaATQ=; b=IbrpfN2zThWMoZhJIqatDWpd9iFsjtGeBPXmKOn44Vnl2Reig3MI6sMFYdWLCR5byfscgjyLA+p/NwTsbl6bTPcL/FZnjgWEFLAHL37qTopIOHaZBK4+ANg/nvgSjE+4RUWujL1UlEBkynhvgLSxn3cQAQ07P5x6+IZc6Is2qeg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Lu43zlM+XUNfu8AxU6X6C12XDdkioxVQBW18R/tv7WoVTl+7OlvpkZDRRWvOTl8iUlIciH1frY3A+h0FbHH8pGJgi4ijlMa/QwOfaPW30mi/azKCEy20qpHpFp64A/UzkWZQmssbYHZjK8UD3ECnST6TChRSXQdX+mS9GMcR0f4= Received: by 10.150.92.11 with SMTP id p11mr893545ybb.1194903408217; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from p4 ( [66.75.108.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p4sm4744520nzc.2007.11.12.13.36.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:36:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:36:39 -1000 From: Robert Marella To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20071112113639.14d0f5a2@p4> In-Reply-To: <18232.48642.463639.901784@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <20071112230920.17bac37c@attila> <18232.48642.463639.901784@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:37:11 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:56:34 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > > The problem I have always had with this is computer use does > not exist in a vacuum; it changes, and is changed by, the society in > which it happens. > If I look at the countries of the "first world", I see places > that have walked the path from the written word to the telegraph to > the telephone to the computer. At each step they've tested the new > technology, learning what it can and cannot do, discovering stuff > the inventors never even imagined, discarding ideas that are > techically problematic or culturally unpalatable, and adapting to it > as it adapted to them. > Now consider dropping 100,000 OLPC on a country where the > (median and mode) hardware layer is paper and ink, the government - > often autocratic and kleptocratic - cannot manage to install and run > a 1950's era phone system, and religious leaders fulminate against > imunization as a "foreign plot". Even under the best of > circumstaces exactly what do people reasoaly expect to happen? > > In my opinion you underestimate the abilities of people. There is no need for the people of the third world countries to "evolve" as we did. One only needs to look at the progress made in China over the last few decades. People who never had a telephone, facsimile, radio or in some cases even books are now using cell phones, computers and televisions. China is becoming more capitalistic, if not democratic, not because the government wants it to but because it has to. The people are more knowledgeable about the rest of the world because of the new ways of communication. If only one percent of the 100,000 laptops in your above example were to fall into hands of some child who is awakened to a new world then that is 1,000 children who will grow up and help change that country. As someone else stated, "It's my money". I have completed the "give one, get one" order form. I hope my laptop is sent to a worthy child but if not so be it. I have not decided what to do with the one that I receive. My grand daughter is only 3 and I think that is a little to young. I will probably give the laptop to one of my great nieces. Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:42:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94DE16A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9A713C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E65D05A6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:42:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:42:40 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:42:56 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: > I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports > buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either requires > someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept all those > screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with no inpput > whatever. That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make config-recursive anytime you like. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:53:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836CA16A498 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4032513C48A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so911081nzf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:53:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rV5hzEL9mekIfyCWQqmdZO1wXBVFr+ivakdsaxO9L08=; b=DfhkDKMuTby3ETZ/fVWX7JBuSU2fj/QiXdEPwa/9XRj3n7f8DVXy+gM+gcD+UJpAsC6ESQgpIPgGvl55kaui7Zhe433YCbwWnh/o193D1CiL3pJyh5qpP8XqhGM6tJt+/Qkh5Lukbl16kive76kh2IDHfwdUtkGy60O5mfd7zK8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dxdaUx+5YnHxMYS0l8h4Ss4cCRoBZdCctJlGpg0i6Tk7OVqnAofPyYumeYLlkmGm1NCRJG6AHQ59yExCZgt6rl3O7ZsVwyVw+tvCB9lxFEN9dyIZc0MUPq9vvDnToqKK+h5cEqdc5eE1+aR0eTZBkfIgJM2rcsDBycyUSBv8tQU= Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr756823wfb.1194904402794; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:53:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:53:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:53:22 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "User Questions" In-Reply-To: <20071112162746.0F61.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071112162746.0F61.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:53:35 -0000 On Nov 12, 2007 1:36 PM, Gerard wrote: > > On November 12, 2007 at 02:42PM Kurt Buff wrote: > > > > According to my portaudit, cups-base has security problems, and I > > can't get samba going because of it. > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/8dd9722c-8e97-11dc-b8f6-001c2514716c.html > > > > According to the above URL, this problem affects v1.3.4, and 1.3.3_1 > > is the latest port, from the CVSUP I did today, and it errors out when > > doing a 'portupgrad -aRr' > > > > Seems I can't get there from here. > > > > Any suggestions on how to move forward with this? > > Have you tried adding the following to your /etc/make.conf file? > > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes > > > -- > Gerard Well, that certainly seems to work, but... I'm out of luck on security until someone updates the port, correct? Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:54:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D4816A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mail.itu.dk (pluto.itu.dk [130.226.142.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A666C13C4A7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.3]) by mail.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A9232CF90; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:47:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at itu.dk Received: from superman.itu.dk ([130.226.142.5]) by localhost (daredevil.itu.dk [130.226.142.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jwq+NoaJXJ0b; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:47:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by superman.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FBE9E6F1; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:47:39 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4738C9F7.9020600@cederstrand.dk> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:47:35 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monah Baki References: <17039.192.60.228.173.1194876898.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> In-Reply-To: <17039.192.60.228.173.1194876898.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error installing plone X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:54:27 -0000 Monah Baki wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to install on Freebsd 6.3 plone from ports. I keep geting the > error message > > libtool: link: `gscanner.lo' is not a valid libtool object > gmake[4]: *** [libglib.la] Error 1 > gmake[4]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22/glib-1.2.8' > gmake[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[3]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22/glib-1.2.8' > gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > gmake[2]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22/glib-1.2.8' > gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/devel/pkg-config/work/pkg-config-0.22' > gmake: *** [all] Error 2 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/devel/pkg-config. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/xproto. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXau. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libX11. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/tk84. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/py-tkinter. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/www/plone. This is more a workaround than a solution, but you don't need the X11 libraries to run plone. Try putting "WITHOUT_X11=yes" in your make.conf. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:55:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F27F16A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhorn2000@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8A113C481 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhorn2000@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s42so613458rnb for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:54:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=f9BZvQdSX3y3nda4+FnMdfnmXLcQnXJ0n0ctM0xwQkw=; b=GoR+9gcIGY6+0R/7BVjpQn1OCBixkaMmo0tNxmDbpQMgn8Naq6ZS1nrx99wu2I3RTmhNIie/tg2buHNTlT3pDL0eqUmo5jGVwv5JK+yeUsNfcY7dW9L7Jf4cjNj6Eo08DEWibNuiXMTa5iIkHI03lC8L8BC1UHwwN2yTIXw+yFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sBgx6DwhC6Rk3qDgVyEuAv35AAKNVa9npMRuOdVsJ3BhUZwCZgJHGciWRxhKILWPeQ+TGmxA7bSdEd8MEuZ8W87XqyWOJtF3s4YeLje42pms/Ga9xstEKFWgHlErvUjbp9uhwHy/I4A7o1k2Lwrf+20Qeniy8xRCaS28F6piaxM= Received: by 10.142.155.4 with SMTP id c4mr1519556wfe.1194903006939; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.187.3 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <25ff90d60711121330v65b92911u4eeca6673984cab0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:30:06 -0500 From: "David Horn" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:07 -0000 I just upgraded my cups-base install to 1.3.3_1, and ran into similar issues at first. Try: "portaudit -F" to upgrade your audit database. I believe portaudit originally thought 1.3.3_1 fell into the "affected" versions, but looks to be the fixed version in the latest database. http://www.freshports.org/print/cups-base/ Good Luck. --_Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:55:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970FB16A475 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5574113C4D1 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD24AE2F0E7; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:55:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.12] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrhFL-0002TJ-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:55:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/E04PZ94MYNW7AwYpx0a54nV6f7m58LMaTeR60 kDwXFipI1TQkdyJ4jFGUbTuF+acSg+5S4aoz2zyhJj9VfWWIZm dtzAiS2tM= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:55:18 -0000 RW schrieb: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 > Chuck Robey wrote: > > >> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports >> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either requires >> someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept all those >> screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with no inpput >> whatever. >> > > That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make > config-recursive anytime you like. > > But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on the whole ports tree though.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 21:57:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DC816A469 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CC713C4BF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF89D04FF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:57:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:57:26 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112215726.5759aef6@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071112162148.0F5E.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> References: <4738A3AC.8090804@otenet.gr> <20071112201409.600b152a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20071112162148.0F5E.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:57:53 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:25:47 -0500 Gerard wrote: > On November 12, 2007 at 03:14PM RW wrote: > > [ ... ] > > > Yes, but that doesn't work if you are doing a portupgrade -a, you > > then need to wrap the makes in a simple script, which is what I was > > referring to. Portmaster has something like this built-in. > > From man PORTUPGRADE(1): > > -- batch Run an upgrading process in a batch mode > (with BATCH=yes) Yes, I already wrote: > > .. and you can also set > > BATCH to take the default options but BATCH is a kludge if you actually want the options screens, but don't want builds interrupted. Much better to do the "make config"s separately in one go. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:02:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A55116A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:02:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F418513C48E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:02:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lACM2Ju2021500; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:02:19 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lACM2Io0021499; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:02:18 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f From: Yuri Pankov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:02:17 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071112162746.0F61.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711130102.18050.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> Cc: Kurt Buff Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:02:33 -0000 On Tuesday 13 November 2007 00:53:22 Kurt Buff wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 1:36 PM, Gerard wrote: > > On November 12, 2007 at 02:42PM Kurt Buff wrote: > > > According to my portaudit, cups-base has security problems, and I > > > can't get samba going because of it. > > > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/8dd9722c-8e97-11dc-b8f6-001c2514 > > >716c.html > > > > > > According to the above URL, this problem affects v1.3.4, and 1.3.3_1 > > > is the latest port, from the CVSUP I did today, and it errors out when > > > doing a 'portupgrad -aRr' > > > > > > Seems I can't get there from here. > > > > > > Any suggestions on how to move forward with this? > > > > Have you tried adding the following to your /etc/make.conf file? > > > > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes > > > > > > -- > > Gerard > > Well, that certainly seems to work, but... > > I'm out of luck on security until someone updates the port, correct? > > Kurt It is already patched, please see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2007-November/137633.html http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2007-November/137639.html Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:06:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F48516A46B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BE913C4B0 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.7] (may be forged)) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJeTrh003588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:40:30 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (node233.245.100.208.1dial.com [208.100.245.233] (may be forged)) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lACJeOJJ027284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:40:27 -0800 Message-ID: <4738AC07.7030307@u.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:39:51 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Kinsey References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <200711120704.lAC744lR082341@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <4738A434.8020204@chuckr.org> <4738A9E6.30001@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <4738A9E6.30001@daleco.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.12.112112 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CP_NAME_SUBJ 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __STOCK_PHRASE_7 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Chuck Robey , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:06:12 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: > >>>> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very >>>> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is >>>> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well >>>> invested. YMMV >>>> >>>> http://xogiving.org/ >>> >>> That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I doubt this >>> is the most needed thing to provide education. We are talking giving >>> laptop to people who do not even have electricity in some cases... >> >> You ought to actually _visit_ one or more of the schools that have >> practical computers for the kids. At least in my own experience, >> well, it's very disillusioning. The teachers have only a vague >> notion about what a compuiter is, so basically the students are given >> some games to waste their time with, and graded on how quiet they >> are while playing. The teachers themselves are usually actually >> frightened of the machines, so they react negatively to anyone who >> volunteers to teach computers. >> >> I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I visited? >> If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear of some, I >> won't contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, because it only >> benefits big computer companies, who sell the machines, not the kids. > > I'd say that it is possible your observations have clued you in on > a large problem. Of course, it's likely not that way everywhere, but > one result of a lack of teacher education re: computers is that people > tend to think that they are computer literate if they can handle an > office suite and use a pointy-clicky interface to build web "pages" > --- which explains a few things about the culture at large. > > Another problem is that use of the Internet for research in > writing papers, etc. often misses the crucial "old school" step > of actually writing notes based on the books your read before > you begin the paper. Recently I read a report by a 9th grader that > was composed mostly of direct quotes from Wikipedia, et al, with > no attribution whatsoever. "Copy n Paste" may work in elementary > art classes, but it's no good in academic research unless great > pains are taken to ensure understanding and proper attribution. > > And, this may be near the real heart of the issue. I don't think > that many school administrators feel that games, educational or not, > are the reason that schools should have computers. I think that, in > large extent, computers were added when some of them discovered that > the Internet could give you more volumes of information than the > school library, without leaving your seat or requiring a hall pass. > > And that is why teachers should be a little more geeky, perhaps. > Plugging a child's computer into the network without knowledgeable > and *personal* guidance will pretty much guarantee that most kids > end up on the baser end of the 'Net, rather than the best. And, > for the most part, teachers are no less busy than they were 10, > 20, or 30 years ago. > > My $.02, > > Kevin Kinsey Could you guys please redirect this discussion to chat@? Thanks... -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:14:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A232916A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356C613C4B5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:14:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BD5AE30077; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:14:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.12] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrhXx-0001rT-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:14:21 +0100 Message-ID: <4738D01B.1050009@web.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:13:47 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <47376C36.3060306@web.de> <47378C39.5010600@web.de> <47378163.7010400@FreeBSD.org> <4737F7C0.2020407@web.de> <20071112091344.2dc9ad38@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <47380CB6.4090207@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <47380CB6.4090207@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+5HmvwwSI3DYiM5a6ecGFIsmOhifPgZ+0D1ojg BIO5cFCju963FFpVxCiK/P/m7Rf/p0LHtg75m/PB/2knq2hrTO 6h2QJiX88= Cc: cpghost , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:14:32 -0000 Steve Bertrand schrieb: > cpghost wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:50:40 +0000 >> Tino Engel wrote: >> >> >>>>>>> http://www.tilolit.de/images/tb/wallpapers/teufel.jpg >>>>>>> >> [snip] >> >> >>> Nevertheless I can check out the author (he is german, too) and ask >>> him about the license issues... >>> >> It would be *really* great if the author not only agreed to put the >> rendering under a permissive license, but also considered releasing >> and licensing the (graphics/povray?) source code too. I'd love to >> experiment a little bit with that! ;) >> >> Anyway, whatever comes out of it, kudos for the great find! :-))) >> > > Amen to that! I just would like to put it on my desktop/use it legally! > > Seriously, if someone here can gain the free rights to it and pass it > along, then we all can say 'yay beastie!'. > > /* will keep hidden on desktop > * until told not to. > * Would be nice if someone says > * that we can use it!!! > */ > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Well, I wrote the owner of the webpage, he told from where he copied the file. I wrote the owner of the other webpage, but he does not know, where it is from. It has just been send in by mail, that's how he gets his wallpapers... So the "more original" source of the picture is http://www.bilderpilot.de/pages/desktopbild.php?id=1555 but there the trace has to stop. What a pity, but I do not think that any more could be done. Greez, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:23:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8081716A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422AD13C4B6 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F32AE2B77A; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:21:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.12] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IrhfA-00006a-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:21:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4738D1DA.2020705@web.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:21:14 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> <47386761.1090801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47386761.1090801@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/pGC0HbsP0CvHxD46Ahtu8Py/TL/PYIq7e3IQZ Gu9tQBdJxX45h8cKGSj6PdbkOcZAKOr1hLPU8E23XPFiEL2WLJ bfXL8x1Qc= Cc: mark@msen.com, John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:23:45 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > >> I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right >> now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, >> which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use >> wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I >> have been told that this solution works fine "out of the box" on >> FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. >> > > Works right out of the box for all versions of FreeBSD > 6.... I just > did it on a 8-Current machine doing the following port installs in > this order: > > firefox > linux-flashplugin7 > acroread7 > > after you install acroread run "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". > > > So did I. When I run firefox then, I get an error message as follows: freebsdangel# firefox LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so [Shared object "libdl.so.2" not found, required by "libflashplayer.so"] But the library is existing: freebsdangel# find / -name libdl.so.2 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 freebsdangel# And even adjusting the path does not help: freebsdangel# setenv PATH "${PATH}:/usr/compat/linux/lib" The result is the same: So basically the question is: How can I tell FreeBSD where to find the requested lib?? Regards, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:25:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3403716A418 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:25:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D851813C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so273125ana for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:24:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t6ZWzmGw+LKIIr12GiP/cQewQ/gMJyWoMc8JPD9ccxw=; b=ecsXLMb4Kcwl7w3XR1GfhIe9jlPwKRh+Yfz+4cGBYxBj/YYw+aFhz6kkkSk/04Va/Wg+WzxC8vlWXrNe+h02defNBms5JG88uy+qMJDabSagV87ezTANCfIwSORZxh14Yncku+L3OJhwWmhit5VUHfhGGiUguqFxMzk3fhXV8vo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FmUGC9o3f6pDcg6/FEKePRbseVjunAC0c4+o8U/ZQjj2vq5EzJjy831psB6XcfD+rdIALoTiyDt2NBOEpULWZxZmEpLLh0rgSphfc/8F5L8Im2Smavhhw9dgkBvje5lx8YTjAK1ppGDuWpqKqSiO6FYswgUGHPDKxFuQBHF5HM4= Received: by 10.100.57.6 with SMTP id f6mr8380952ana.1194906296792; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i27sm5227132elf.2007.11.12.14.24.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:24:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4738D2B1.9040206@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:24:49 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> <47386761.1090801@gmail.com> <4738D1DA.2020705@web.de> In-Reply-To: <4738D1DA.2020705@web.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mark@msen.com, John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:25:08 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tino Engel wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >>> I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right >>> now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, >>> which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use >>> wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I >>> have been told that this solution works fine "out of the box" on >>> FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. >>> >> >> Works right out of the box for all versions of FreeBSD > 6.... I just >> did it on a 8-Current machine doing the following port installs in >> this order: >> >> firefox >> linux-flashplugin7 >> acroread7 >> >> after you install acroread run "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". >> >> >> > So did I. When I run firefox then, I get an error message as follows: > > freebsdangel# firefox > LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library > /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so [Shared object > "libdl.so.2" not found, required by "libflashplayer.so"] > > But the library is existing: > > freebsdangel# find / -name libdl.so.2 > /usr/compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 > freebsdangel# > > And even adjusting the path does not help: > > freebsdangel# setenv PATH "${PATH}:/usr/compat/linux/lib" > > The result is the same: > > So basically the question is: > How can I tell FreeBSD where to find the requested lib?? > Did you do it from packages or ports? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHONKwJ9+1V27SttsRArfZAJ9mwg0zZD7ZlRDT5r4KY6bGZ2eSUQCeKn81 BNfbsfMQl1PXP25TNX8v3I8= =gFhb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:52:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1CAF16A41B for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA8113C4A3 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:52:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:50:33 -0800 Message-ID: <4738D8B8.7070807@riderway.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:50:32 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> <47386761.1090801@gmail.com> <4738D1DA.2020705@web.de> In-Reply-To: <4738D1DA.2020705@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mark@msen.com" , John , "Aryeh M. Friedman" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:52:05 -0000 Tino Engel wrote: > freebsdangel# setenv PATH "${PATH}:/usr/compat/linux/lib" you are looking for LD_LIBRARY_PATH You should do this with ldconfig so its there all the time; but use the linux compat one, not the freebsd base system one. The port should have done this for you. cat /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf include ld.so.conf.d/*.conf /lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 22:56:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 121A716A419 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73C813C4B2 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:56:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB451AE30F19; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:36:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.12] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Irhtg-0003O9-00; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:36:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4738D55E.6040903@web.de> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:36:14 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <200711120938.43924.mark@msen.com> <47386761.1090801@gmail.com> <4738D1DA.2020705@web.de> <4738D2B1.9040206@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4738D2B1.9040206@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18/zjSHdkY4e4rvGhGZ5zjvUiCs85/xSlfiCScZ bD9cU70Ahy+SOegLExSszRExTg/q/UV+d8n/NRdl8+cmb1ADBW 3ZaVuPgT8= Cc: mark@msen.com, John , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash: linux firefox vs linuxpluginwrapper X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:56:19 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tino Engel wrote: > >> Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I posed a similar question on this list a short time ago. Right >>>> now, the only 'Flash' working on either Linux or native is Flash 7, >>>> which does not work on many sites. To get Flash 9, you need to use >>>> wine under freebsd and install the windows version of Firefox. I >>>> have been told that this solution works fine "out of the box" on >>>> FreeBSD 6.2 but I have not yet confirmed. >>>> >>>> >>> Works right out of the box for all versions of FreeBSD > 6.... I just >>> did it on a 8-Current machine doing the following port installs in >>> this order: >>> >>> firefox >>> linux-flashplugin7 >>> acroread7 >>> >>> after you install acroread run "nspluginwrapper -v -a -i". >>> >>> >>> >>> >> So did I. When I run firefox then, I get an error message as follows: >> >> freebsdangel# firefox >> LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library >> /usr/local/lib/browser_plugins/libflashplayer.so [Shared object >> "libdl.so.2" not found, required by "libflashplayer.so"] >> >> But the library is existing: >> >> freebsdangel# find / -name libdl.so.2 >> /usr/compat/linux/lib/libdl.so.2 >> freebsdangel# >> >> And even adjusting the path does not help: >> >> freebsdangel# setenv PATH "${PATH}:/usr/compat/linux/lib" >> >> The result is the same: >> >> So basically the question is: >> How can I tell FreeBSD where to find the requested lib?? >> >> > > Did you do it from packages or ports? > > From ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 23:08:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC8316A417 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:08:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4638213C4CB for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:08:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s42so634698rnb for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:08:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=I8pNW+Gn1uc8HowYTrMo1E0+UtRNRocYUnbR7BLbuuo=; b=ny0Mr2I6sEkI+rOQyz0F7Jm1NngrEpuDhPiBgDFzcGshyyQlcRVkScoRH7MlDT9/KSRBIKYg+jVFc135OH/YGKyPF0iR1Rqd0RfGMvq+M9SiXBh3arivUcGvrjjI6DHu3tZ05rAXnow027tT2Nj8XUJTDTswwEttHltq0MJKq7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oO+uKrVrFJNaRhKVjDH4fPT/r/VOu3qCpA+mg2irXocYDtatJVufmd+2USWxg4Ygdz800BeMsQIU2LnzzlJkWnXFHd2o6adr8fiIW1fQDXthNd/fu81l8vsVF/KmjZcDJHKcHKImcOlIYkdtvPPWDIcl1J06agn8cD18u+r0Vgw= Received: by 10.142.132.2 with SMTP id f2mr270343wfd.1194908910799; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:08:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:08:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:08:30 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <25ff90d60711121330v65b92911u4eeca6673984cab0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:08:41 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kurt Buff Date: Nov 12, 2007 3:07 PM Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba To: David Horn On Nov 12, 2007 1:30 PM, David Horn wrote: > I just upgraded my cups-base install to 1.3.3_1, and ran into similar issues > at first. > > Try: > > "portaudit -F" to upgrade your audit database. I believe portaudit > originally thought 1.3.3_1 fell into the "affected" versions, but looks to > be the fixed version in the latest database. > > http://www.freshports.org/print/cups-base/ > > Good Luck. > > --_Dave This worked, thanks. zrouter# portaudit -aF auditfile.tbz 100% of 45 kB 130 kBps New database installed. 0 problem(s) in your installed packages found. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 23:09:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6459616A474 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8E113C4AC for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:09:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so758870wra for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:09:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vsbNOntbkJFCk97Dq91m3zWD9U61FzlTC5Po6ad0yhY=; b=i+UIz8ajbzBsQKOu+P1+gzJZ+rx/RjwxivwuZvjmrfzM7bCfYypf1LndffLoeagGk4L58xx9jnXV+URqT0e7+bYTEM8EOw1VlQzUv33ky3sCl4EYwbB3BLsP4fSDr2XtMuTkq4I0LCnyDMofOMus9Z072wnWlR4D5slRkV6dR7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=D7FyPht+/Rpoz6HJAMTtDFB6aediE/x/sb1+QC9kRK6K0VDzaAKFFtN7aHDuINeVwrx1o9xpkqU/6LcJYqID2V8fDsm3paSEDHNAO1tfA01LoIWG//Qbuvgo3+2K7WwKQTmFpeSTQ5GvKGViPIoOT17RFyTPzwBKvUabJbP8iPo= Received: by 10.142.237.20 with SMTP id k20mr1128249wfh.1194908958251; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:09:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:09:18 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Yuri Pankov" In-Reply-To: <200711130102.18050.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071112162746.0F61.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> <200711130102.18050.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups-base upgrade and samba X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:09:37 -0000 On Nov 12, 2007 2:02 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 November 2007 00:53:22 Kurt Buff wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2007 1:36 PM, Gerard wrote: > > > On November 12, 2007 at 02:42PM Kurt Buff wrote: > > > > According to my portaudit, cups-base has security problems, and I > > > > can't get samba going because of it. > > > > > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/8dd9722c-8e97-11dc-b8f6-001c2514 > > > >716c.html > > > > > > > > According to the above URL, this problem affects v1.3.4, and 1.3.3_1 > > > > is the latest port, from the CVSUP I did today, and it errors out when > > > > doing a 'portupgrad -aRr' > > > > > > > > Seems I can't get there from here. > > > > > > > > Any suggestions on how to move forward with this? > > > > > > Have you tried adding the following to your /etc/make.conf file? > > > > > > DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Gerard > > > > Well, that certainly seems to work, but... > > > > I'm out of luck on security until someone updates the port, correct? > > > > Kurt > > It is already patched, please see > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2007-November/137633.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2007-November/137639.html > > > Yuri Excellent - Thanks so much. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 23:48:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703D916A46E for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42A413C4B5 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lACNmWlO094849 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id lACNmQFR094848 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:48:26 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112234826.GC94324@wjv.com> References: <20071112213722.49F7416A49A@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071112213722.49F7416A49A@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:48:54 -0000 The door open and in walked trouble - disguised as our our old nemesis freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org, who uttered, at Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 21:37 : > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:46 -0600 > From: Kevin Kinsey > Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child > To: Chuck Robey [edited to only portions I comment upon - wjv] > Chuck Robey wrote: > >>> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > >>> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > >>> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > >>> invested. YMMV > >>> http://xogiving.org/ > >> That is a difficult issue, while this is an opportunity, I > >> doubt this is the most needed thing to provide education. > >> We are talking giving laptop to people who do not even have > >> electricity in some cases... > > You ought to actually _visit_ one or more of the schools that > > have practical computers for the kids. At least in my own > > experience, well, it's very disillusioning. The teachers have > > only a vague notion about what a compuiter is, so basically > > the students are given some games to waste their time with, > > and graded on how quiet they are while playing. The teachers > > themselves are usually actually frightened of the machines, > > so they react negatively to anyone who volunteers to teach > > computers. > > I wish it wasn't this way. Maybe it's just in the schools I > > visited? If so, anyone have a better experience? Until I hear > > of some, I won't contribute to any "computers for kids" deal, > > because it only benefits big computer companies, who sell the > > machines, not the kids. > I'd say that it is possible your observations have clued you in on > a large problem. Of course, it's likely not that way everywhere, but > one result of a lack of teacher education re: computers is that people > tend to think that they are computer literate if they can handle an > office suite and use a pointy-clicky interface to build web "pages" > --- which explains a few things about the culture at large. Education - over the time when technology started rearing it's head shortly after the turn of the second past century [eg 1900 and forward] often has looked to this technolog as the saviour of the educational environment. When radio came about it was looked upon as the way to educate million of children as radio could bring in information and perhaps experts in the field to cover what was needed. Then movies >with sound< came along - and the same arguments were made. Then television. Ah - now we can experts teaching children everywhere. The ulitmate talking heads experience IMO. And then color-television. That was to solve all the problems that b/w had - so you could see the colors in chemistry experiments for example. Then came the computer - with text screend. It was though that they needed graphics enviormennts. So those came about. Then it was color computers, then color computers with 3D graphics and of course sound. So for 70+ years people have seen the 'new technology' as ways to solve the problems seen or perhaps mis-seen in education. And what has it got us? Has we gotten children with better education. It seems today's studens have one of the prime goals is how to pass the FCATs and SATs. IOW they have been taught how to pass tests. They have not been educated but taught. And if when they go into the world the come across problems for which they have not been taught - they are lost because they have not been educated [a distinction I make but others may not] to understand that with which they are working and being able to figure out on their own how to solve the problem. Learning to pass tests doesn't prepare them for that. > Another problem is that use of the Internet for research in > writing papers, etc. often misses the crucial "old school" step > of actually writing notes based on the books your read before > you begin the paper. Recently I read a report by a 9th grader that > was composed mostly of direct quotes from Wikipedia, et al, with > no attribution whatsoever. "Copy n Paste" may work in elementary > art classes, but it's no good in academic research unless great > pains are taken to ensure understanding and proper attribution. And the problem with using the 'net for research is that so much of what has been printed in the past - pre-mid-90s - has not [yet] been made available for searching. Sometimes you have to go into the stacks at a decent library and pull down a book that hasn't been opening in 30 to 50 [or more] years to find the real answers to your problem. > And, this may be near the real heart of the issue. I don't think > that many school administrators feel that games, educational or not, > are the reason that schools should have computers. I think that, in > large extent, computers were added when some of them discovered that > the Internet could give you more volumes of information than the > school library, without leaving your seat or requiring a hall pass. And I see problems with the modern public library systems that seem to concentrate on what is popular - and having book-sales to get rid of items that aren't checked out recently - and many of these are reference books that have information not contained elsewhere. A good friend of mind picked up several technical references that way - that covered subject that aren't covered elsewhere. In some respects this is the dumbing down of America. Hopefully the rest of the world won't go in that direction. > And that is why teachers should be a little more geeky, perhaps. > Plugging a child's computer into the network without knowledgeable > and *personal* guidance will pretty much guarantee that most kids > end up on the baser end of the 'Net, rather than the best. And, > for the most part, teachers are no less busy than they were 10, > 20, or 30 years ago. > My $.02, Some of the hardest tests were those in the university - here are 6 questions - pick any four - and you have three hours to finish them. Or the three USGovt tests I've taken. Two with 100 question and one with 50 questions. You had 8 hours to take the test and many never finished in the alloted time. At least one of those I took and passed the first time in a 4 hour session - had about an 80% failure rate for first time takers. And that was because our group was educated in depth on the subject matters - so no matter what the question or how it was worded, we could usually get the correct answer. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 12 23:59:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B307716A420 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DB813C4B7 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QF=9eda887d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F167D04FF for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:59:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:21 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:52 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 Tino Engel wrote: > RW schrieb: > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > >> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports > >> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either > >> requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept > >> all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with > >> no inpput whatever. > >> > > > > That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make > > config-recursive anytime you like. > > > > > But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on > the whole ports tree though.... It's not hard to script it though, something like the following would do #!/bin/sh for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do cd /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 00:27:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1616916A468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F8D13C48E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 11978 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 00:27:24 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2007 00:27:24 -0000 Message-ID: <4738EF14.2070403@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:25:56 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <4738A3AC.8090804@otenet.gr> <20071112201409.600b152a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20071112162148.0F5E.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20071112162148.0F5E.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:34 -0000 Gerard wrote: > On November 12, 2007 at 03:14PM RW wrote: > > [ ... ] > >> Yes, but that doesn't work if you are doing a portupgrade -a, you then >> need to wrap the makes in a simple script, which is what I was referring >> to. Portmaster has something like this built-in. > > From man PORTUPGRADE(1): and my (twofold) point is that (1) this removes all real choices from the user, and (2) there is a perfectly good method that allows one to keep their own options, and still get all the good points of batch processing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 00:59:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F119216A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B375A13C4A5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAD0GIQg026951 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:16:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1194917878; bh=yQBsfIAGpDSSYXEZgYid2hagFNE=; h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=kK2qkXch3X13wS2s/cJLDIQANyuvOFE4j5VL3X6OybXhZ7ikfF Tc3nYIXN1796ffkxAaw7zjIHrtKBuLsrYdlA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=NPGcNFRsf6oJt0adAQTsaXPhF34N4qiSun6ABgeWFtBUmyllUiulhwCEExAZ8GzYs S5IEpuarpx8aFZx8txs5Q== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAD0GINg026937; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:16:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:16:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: 6.3-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:59:54 -0000 Hey All, I recently CVSUPPED to what I thought would be 6.2-STABLE but instead got 6.3-PRERELEASE. However, I look at www.freebsd.org/releng and I see no reference to the release cycle of 6.3. Was this a mistake of some sort? -Dan -- "Man, this is such a trip" -Dan Mahoney, October 25, 1997 --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 01:24:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D22916A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1851B13C48E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 14707 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 01:24:51 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2007 01:24:51 -0000 Message-ID: <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:23:23 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:24:59 -0000 RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 > Chuck Robey wrote: > >> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports >> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either requires >> someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept all those >> screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with no inpput >> whatever. This discussion has unfortunately jumped out or ports (wjhere I believe it should have been) to questions, so I have to re-state stuff I've already said. Darn. Well. I want to explain one of the most important features. First thing, I have to stress I m talking about my writing a character-based tool that carefully guides the user into making the best choice of a limited set of words, to describe their chosen machine environment. I'm NOT going to ask (as Gentoo does) the user to select their own set of words. Gentoo expends damn little help on installation in general, and more specifically, on the maintenance of their USE lists. Their concept of the USE lists is what's important, not their implementation. Let me give a real-life example. In doing a database of users, you would normally include a file (or lookup table) of state names & abbreviations. This isn't because you're confused about the spelling of Ohio, it's so that, in sorting, you don't jhave to deal with 14 different ways to abbreviate Missouri. You want to be able to sort on one spelling, and not lose half of your Missourian users because they can't agree on a spelling, you want to limit what they use to define their state. OK, you (as programmers) must understand that concept, and the machine environment keyword descriptions (I need a good name for them, and I don't want to use USE because Gentoo uses it, and I don't want to be misunderstood as being the same thing as Gentoo). If I make a nice database-like program that helps out a user in choosing the best way to describe their system goals, using a limited set of standard words, and set it up so this is done as part of installation. This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed to set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a dependency. OK, the good things that accrue from this: 1) list items are always presented right alongside the verbal definitions of what each word semantically means in context. People could still get it screwed up, but that would certainly happen less often. 2) because the number of choices is limited to those on the list, and new items must be filtered thru the ports-management, getting the names wrong or confused is under far better control. There will no longer be 6 ways to define "Music program with mp3's only".Adding a particular option to that music program, say, adding ability to play back AAC songs, would just mean adding the correct keyword. This would allow, some time in the future (not something I'm immediately considering) to do a global scan, with adding some new keyword, to bring one's entire system back up to date. This is not possible today. 2) Since choices are made one per each machine particular, the number of choices is less that a tenth the size of a list of the peer-port dependency choices, setting this up in advance becomes a task that is quite reasonable todo in advance of building all ports. Currently, the sheer idea of setting all options in advance is ridiculous. 3) Choices are made of items that can easily be performed by users without extensive documentation. Trying to inform users of the actual meaning of each and every one of the currently used dependency options would be too complicated a task to expect all users to be able to do this. Informing them of the setup for their particular machine is a far smaller task, one that is small enough to contemplate performing. Describing this in another way, the options will be defined by function, and no longer by the name of the software. 4) Since dependencies are listed by machine environment, and not by port, adding a new port with a correct optioned set of dependencies becomes far more reasonable: merely grep out all ports with a particular set of keywords, and then a ports-writer knows perfectly well what ports they would need to consider as dependency choices. Doing it now, is largely a matter of luck. I left out one last point> there will be a reject list: a list of port names or regular expression patters, of ports that can't be installed under any circumstances. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 01:38:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A45F16A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7516D13C4B7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 25315 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2007 01:38:40 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Nov 2007 01:38:39 -0000 Message-ID: <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:37:11 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:38:50 -0000 RW wrote: > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 > Tino Engel wrote: > >> RW schrieb: >>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 >>> Chuck Robey wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports >>>> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either >>>> requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept >>>> all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with >>>> no inpput whatever. >>>> >>> That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make >>> config-recursive anytime you like. >>> >>> >> But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on >> the whole ports tree though.... > > It's not hard to script it though, something like the following would do > > #!/bin/sh > for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do > cd /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive > done I can't believe you actually suggested this. First thing, it would take you HOURS to complete, and you better not make even one mistake, 'cause you couldn't even go back far enough to figure out what the name was of the port you muffed. Beyond that, since most ports ask questions formed with the name of the target dependency, aznd not asking things like "do you want such-and-such capability", so you have to be conversant with the names and capabilities of nearly 10,000 ports, to be able to do that job. Were you really seriously suggesting this. It's so unworkable, its laughable. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 02:12:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC39116A421 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936ED13C4A5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:12:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1883830waf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:12:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=BaSEqGB81NLKRBlxhPBze8tHMFzF2AJcOdNNldssFdg=; b=Qj2HEVPgQLP12bBZ+vZqn3jYpLKoTdaGXn4JYs3QKLXPbta5zot2eQQ65sH0es7SrWr5qj3Fv7hxmDvzR0DIf9YUyLUnvqKEAII8nTAaE2lkn/Rr9M9z21ceuvdaiA6NBsB4O+0EXbn4+ly0ptjhQODUcYpxKlK0flt1MMkIsJ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=XrP4bLvm/AoUaZ8RvBWUYNjIQFROeRO7mHt/WyI6mfO/HnPcMvKh36RnbkmmZRj73K2dcpu+RiV3DrUi/iWUrnRtc0VLYKOYdBZzhoTpjeHnQP7geeGQzvVyArHz0PquZ5Du64ihbclzVAvkwfJ48TzAvEu5Bz7Huzd7fN3Onk0= Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr364901wam.1194919942347; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.209.8 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:12:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90711121812u4568a211hc78e20d58ac1fef2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:12:22 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3e6f962210224007 Subject: apache: you don't have acess to / X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:12:30 -0000 I just rsync'd a bunch of directories from an old backup on top of my web root, which was functional a minute ago. Ok, so I admit that was stupid. Suddenly, 'no acess to / on this server'. No problem, I just chmod -R 775, right? Only that didn't work, now I'm pretty much stuck.... Best, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 02:21:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5030216A41B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A8A13C494 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:21:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so967633nzf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=O6VUxQNqJBq04UNFQdvUq6J5XXFtIDxjcuNQ24UNwkA=; b=PR93tC/tjMLd9Sp3JDzK5p3zduKUUUK7gmrv7dDv64BGJuKyO2KQjiCVm8APfRr7hLfFk9mzVaaVlMKtaKl/RTqREmHJX59Jp/TCD1bcon960SNaarCd5C0T/BNr2o8/LksIv7qEOhtP4Rwhl/Oluy3Wupe7NsM0bg+N/gJtcMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ERvZbt0h5x8TbI4JoxyBRIiyw5D51nWYSg+hb2YGT+qinxHKv91799kSS87LNfLvWBFhVKU1197amNSBiWN1KtH1caCg/GOYr6oTBz5FDEu2HTRGq+iT2HegnCJsBS4f/d1eu0J+yEtscvJmV50WtuRZXJ/JA2C9nHvBas3H9zg= Received: by 10.114.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr33417wag.1194920463339; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.39.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm8449132waf.2007.11.12.18.21.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B470B143E7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:50:53 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:50:53 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:21:16 -0000 On 22:08:03 Nov 12, Alupului Costin wrote: > I seem to have quite a problem with PF. I have set up a bridge to > shape my upstream traffic. I use ALTQ with hfsc discipline; but that's > not really important. My problem comes with the filter rules. I have > to use keep state because of the speed benefits (really I don't have a > choice), One should always keep state. > but PF has a problem when the clients passing traffic through > the bridge use TCP window scaling. Here is an example of four filter > rules that I thought should work to pass the traffic from one client > through the bridge and create a state: > > pass in quick on vlan0 from any to anIP/32 > pass out quick on vlan0 from anIP/32 to any keep state queue ul_client > pass in quick on vlan1 from anIP/32 to any > pass out quick on vlan1 from any to anIP/32 keep state queue dl_client > > The above rules generate state-mismatches. Didn't get you. What sort of mismatch? > I thought that would be > because pf doesn't see the SYN packet, although it does (one of the > out rules) and should create the state then... I tried writing all the > rules with keep state (even the inbound ones) but then nothing would > work at all. My intention was to create if-bound states, but I > switched back to floating states in the hope that pf would associate > the state created by an outbound rule with the traffic returning on > another interface of the bridge; still didn't work. > Have you tried adding "flags S/SAFR" to the filter rules? Try it and let me know. > I have read the man page for if_bridge and set the following sysctl variables: > > net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 0 > net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 > > I have also read some posts on the web that said that pf simply > doesn't have all the hooks necesary to do the filtering inbound and > outbound, but reading the pfil man page I seem to disaggree with that. > What do you mean? ? > Has anyone encountered the same problem? And, more important: if i > give up the bridge setup and switch to routing, would that have any > effect? I.E: will I then be able to use keep state with the inbound > rules? Try it. Routing changes the topology a good deal. But I doubt if that is the issue here. No harm in testing though. > > Any help at all would be hugely appreciated as I am trying for about a > week to sort out this problem and can't seem to get any closer. The > only solution was to kindly ask my clients using TCP window scaling > (Vista mostly) to turn off this feature... Now I am seriously > considering bumping my bridge to a router but I am not sure that the > problem will be solved then. Try adding the flags switch as mentioned above. That way the states get established only from a TCP Syn packet. You should also try flushing the old states using pfctl(8). > > Oh, here is the setup of the bridge from rc.conf, although there > shouldn't be any problems there (the bridge works fine without pf, or > with pf stateless): Stateful filtering is always recommended. Performance is not the only reason why you should use it. It also adds to security. Have you tried disabling normalization/scrub? Best, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 02:29:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58C116A420 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC3913C4C1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1888435waf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:29:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=G5lZru+l3A5hsQv7wQV6JhOvw9X9/Ln4U8ShXOR2QTY=; b=FMoSPYeAskCla2sV1FPwUPdqw+05MjzAz3UG9uhoVIgD1AgY62JgsWLj0pNYFBJVHbtppWC1Ma6H1HbFe6XA/Ljjae2xVdzIwCjxKGhxFil9w/HcnVmKPD9nRpjC6/nmzpy9BUrRqvvbpYw4oh0zdQaige+FVBLP2P9ujZa3NSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Kmj+BYHC1NfsNehvCb1t7+FCEswozd543ln9EKHi7qpIQ9cgcpEmn4FAA1o+keRZdB4zIxHqwIzqg18Ed5/pZ/LAVo49gp3hS7qh0X+NJaRDTed/d2lJkaU5nXlvP4lYMP0LA+SuR86zUc2pz3dwPOHk/L6Qysq0UiF5iNOPQys= Received: by 10.114.120.1 with SMTP id s1mr161094wac.1194920953589; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:29:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.209.8 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:29:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90711121829r3d1ff92fy151c096a1f22f225@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:29:13 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "Ashley Moran" In-Reply-To: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: dfe125766d4f8c85 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:29:22 -0000 Not to mention, as a novice, I've discovered that for 20-60% of all ports, messing with the defaults makes the port fail to build.... Steve On Nov 12, 2007 8:26 AM, Ashley Moran wrote: > Hi > > I was just wondering, what is the motivation behind the GUI > configuration for some ports? Simply put, they drive me up the > wall. I've lost count of the number of times I've come back to a big > install to find it hanging on a config screen. Possibly I'm missing > something. > > The apache22 port is the latest one to join this crowd, although > there is an option to skip the GUI. I'm much happier using > WITH_PROXY_MODULES or whatever, and managing everything in > pkgtools.conf. > > What is the best way to pre-configure GUI-configured ports? For > example, if I want to script an installation of several ports. > > I've seen this: , is it what > I'm after? > > Thanks for any advice > Ashley > > > -- > > blog @ http://aviewfromafar.net/ > linked-in @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleymoran > currently @ work > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Steve Franks, KE7BTE Staff Engineer La Palma Devices, LLC http://www.lapalmadevices.com (520) 312-0089 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 01:19:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691D816A468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p0036343@brookes.ac.uk) Received: from mail.idnet.net.uk (mail.idnet.net.uk [212.69.36.63]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784113C4B7 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p0036343@brookes.ac.uk) Received: from [91.135.7.29] by mail.idnet.net.uk (GMS 11.01.3365/NU3963.00.7ca42f0c) with ESMTP id zkkwxbba for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:00:55 +0000 Message-ID: <4738F761.4010003@brookes.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:01:21 +0000 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070326 Thunderbird/2.0.0.0 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:30:31 +0000 Subject: Samba 3.0.26a (from Ports) won't compile if 'WITH_EXP_MODULES=true' is set X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:19:53 -0000 Hello, Using FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, I'm trying to configure FreeBSD/Samba/Winbind to talk to Active Directory, following these instructions: http://joseph.randomnetworks.com/archives/2005/11/08/freebsd-users-and-groups-with-samba-winbind-and-active-directory/ As per subject, using Samba 3.0.26a (from the ports collection), it will not compile if 'WITH_EXP_MODULES=true' is set (apparently 'WITH_EXP_MODULES' is needed for 'imap_rid'). The nature of the error is: "The following command failed: cc -I <..>". I've pasted the few error lines here (also including `uname -a` and `cat /var/db/ports/samba3/options`) http://pastebin.com/m4892a0d0 Can anyone help explain my problem (and solution?) please? Kind regards, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 02:49:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C6C16A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:49:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0113C4A5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAD2nBxA082292 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:49:11 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id lAD2nAT5098356; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:49:10 +0700 (ICT) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:49:10 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200711130249.lAD2nAT5098356@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: b.movaqar@adempiere.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <72cf361e0711121221w76334390l27f4816b2b23420@mail.gmail.com> (maxsec@gmail.com) References: <20071111194342.0e2ca8fb@attila> <72cf361e0711110826h219cef9ah1a24f856f947d35b@mail.gmail.com> <20071112114508.04daf64b@attila> <72cf361e0711121221w76334390l27f4816b2b23420@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: Subject: Re: Claws+spamd: No spam is detected X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:49:45 -0000 Hi, > > > I have Claws-Mail and spamd installed (from ports) and although I > > > have been using this combination -I've been been manually marking > > > all spams as 'spam'- for more than 2 months, still _no_ spam > > > message is detected. > > > > > > I've followed the instructions on Claws/spamd wiki. I've got the > > > followings in /etc/rc.conf: > > > spamd_enable="YES" > > > spamd_flags="-C /usr/local/etc/spamd -i 127.0.0.1 -p 783 -u > > > spamd -d -l" > > > Also Claws configuration parameters exactly match the spamd_flags > > > above. 1) are you sure spamd is working fine? Did you try to send a message to spamd to check the marking? (clue use spamc to send a message to spamd) 2) I know nothing about claws, but running a spam detector at the mail client is very in efficient: every messages need to be downloaded anyway to be tested, it woul dbe much better to run spam detector at the MTA/MDA level, so your mailbox contains only ham and your mail client (claws) only sees ham. 3) in claws did you try to look at the full message headers (some time called the source of the message): some "clever" (so they thought) mail client hide most of the headers, so you woul dnot see SpamAssassin markup. Bests, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 03:32:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BDA16A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from ms-smtp-03.ohiordc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.ohiordc.rr.com [65.24.5.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF55F13C481 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite (cpe-65-31-42-110.woh.res.rr.com [65.31.42.110]) by ms-smtp-03.ohiordc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id lAD2mUsG011771 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:48:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000301c8259f$aceead50$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:48:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: making packages from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:32:37 -0000 Hello, I've got a box i'd like to build packages from ports on, and deploy those packages to other machines. I'll use postfix as an example. I did make package from postfix's directory and selected pcre and mysql support. I got the postfix tarball package, but when i tried to install it on another box it needed pcre and mysql-client packages. I had to run make package in each of their directories. I was wondering if there was a recursive way of package making? Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 03:52:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1963B16A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:52:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1A413C48E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jahilliya@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so813385wra for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:51:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=gL3TcHyZ4NbJqDKEeASUlceGqk+kejk59BXKpF3KJ9Q=; b=UgpVDzDfXkiueLSxXf/jhVdDc7Ik5/8q/enn0MlazVcSpFXPJ9ulAobAr/ocA6zWAZarxSN2ncZbIzq7GnNEN75cOG8qrzdyKngALfNqF2FI+PCmCKKemVxF/Z5LjxAL9B0c/Mafc06Ld+Nq3kkgFH9ZeQ1GtrwDEmbmJRrUhcQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DBmckGDhpFdixr0IRvZJApr72LX3vPL/w9JU6PgFoEIjukSklNL86bTGi4Sq1D5jPm9xxG9lmslN150EnXRHqE23fQmUXmmOroezY3mc7W00Ny9YTY5GK/6ZQfmQ+NERaKdZGgAShGZpwgTB9kSZlczo1bFwaDl7NYzIdSU9ja8= Received: by 10.142.232.20 with SMTP id e20mr1027668wfh.1194925916554; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.163.21 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:51:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:51:56 +0900 From: "Daniel Marsh" To: Dave In-Reply-To: <000301c8259f$aceead50$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000301c8259f$aceead50$0200a8c0@satellite> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: making packages from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:52:40 -0000 On Nov 13, 2007 11:48 AM, Dave wrote: > Hello, > I've got a box i'd like to build packages from ports on, and deploy > those packages to other machines. I'll use postfix as an example. I did make > package from postfix's directory and selected pcre and mysql support. I got > the postfix tarball package, but when i tried to install it on another box > it needed pcre and mysql-client packages. I had to run make package in each > of their directories. I was wondering if there was a recursive way of > package making? > Thanks. > Dave. Have a look at pkg_create(1) I will generally use the following command to create a bunch of packages of installed ports. pkg_info | awk '{ print "pkg_create -yb", $1 }' | sh or pkg_info | cut -d' ' -f1 | xargs -n pkg_create -yb (I'm certain someone will point out a better way of doing this) I will place these packages in a NFS/SMB shared directory or NULL mount it for jails to install packages on other systems/jails. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 05:27:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB2E16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QG=a6299a4d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F77713C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QG=a6299a4d@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CED16468A for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508ECD0500 for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:59:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:59:09 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113045909.7f31c5e6@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:12 -0000 On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:37:11 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: > RW wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 > > Tino Engel wrote: > > It's not hard to script it though, something like the following > > would do > > > > #!/bin/sh > > for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do > > cd /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive > > done > > I can't believe you actually suggested this. > First thing, it would take you HOURS to complete, Typically you can do "make config-recursive"'s about 10-30 times per minute on average - most installed ports have few dependencies. It's also only running over out-of-date ports, so it only takes minutes, even for major upgrades. I now use config-conditional which is faster, and works well enough in practice not to warrant the extra time. > and you better not make even one mistake, > 'cause you couldn't even go back far enough to figure out what the > name was of the port you muffed. Both config-recursive and config-conditional use cached options where availible. Options are pretty stable, so even in a major upgrade I only see a few screens, and 90% of the time they are all trivial. > Beyond that, since most ports ask > questions formed with the name of the target dependency, aznd not > asking things like "do you want such-and-such capability", so you > have to be conversant with the names and capabilities of nearly > 10,000 ports, to be able to do that job. I find the one-line descriptions to be pretty good, and my experience has been that if I don't understand an option, I don't need to change it from the default. For the most part, I find that the more inscrutable options are internal to the port, and have nothing to do with dependencies or any global setting, for example the patch options in dns/djbdns. > Were you really seriously suggesting this. It's so unworkable, its > laughable. I've been doing it this way for a long time, it works fine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 05:42:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0450F16A41A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:42:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39E213C4B3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:42:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 7B4319B4057; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:42:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:42:20 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113054220.GA74564@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:42:29 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:50:53AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 22:08:03 Nov 12, Alupului Costin wrote: > > I seem to have quite a problem with PF. I have set up a bridge to > > shape my upstream traffic. I use ALTQ with hfsc discipline; but that's > > not really important. My problem comes with the filter rules. I have > > to use keep state because of the speed benefits (really I don't have a > > choice), > > One should always keep state. <...> > > Oh, here is the setup of the bridge from rc.conf, although there > > shouldn't be any problems there (the bridge works fine without pf, or > > with pf stateless): > > Stateful filtering is always recommended. Performance is not the only > reason why you should use it. > > It also adds to security. Have you tried disabling normalization/scrub? > > Best, > Girish My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that keeping state requires fragmented packet reassembly, which can break some applications. Also, I've always followed the conventional wisdom that bridges shouldn't keep state. A posting from the maintainer supports this: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2005-September/001481.html Maybe this has changed--I'm not sure, but so far I haven't seen performance issues with pf and if_bridge without keeping state, so I haven't been worried about it. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 05:49:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B5C16A469 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1CC13C4B8 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4AFB05C5D0; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:49:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.173.23] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IroeA-0004pP-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:49:14 +0100 Message-ID: <47393AB9.7040709@web.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:48:41 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> In-Reply-To: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18UjN40SGixawUmXKYdJfV4z9z3S9PkaciB1EOF NI6jdX7EWP5X6RqhQpkSdG5cdpRePzRIGCqf7paExBHTT59PPS AGfcomMTM= Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:49:24 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin schrieb: > Hey All, > > I recently CVSUPPED to what I thought would be 6.2-STABLE but instead > got 6.3-PRERELEASE. > > However, I look at www.freebsd.org/releng and I see no reference to > the release cycle of 6.3. > > Was this a mistake of some sort? > > -Dan > > -- > > "Man, this is such a trip" > > -Dan Mahoney, October 25, 1997 > > --------Dan Mahoney-------- > Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek > Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC > ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM > Site: http://www.gushi.org > --------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The tag you want is RELENG_6_2 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 05:53:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CFF16A41A for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:53:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CEA13C4AC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:53:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAD5qhgL012303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:52:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=prime.gushi.org; s=primegushiorg; t=1194938069; bh=rVVE1Opy98nSXt4wCxnDuzvnzFU=; h=DomainKey-Signature:Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GTSgmn7ThIcSG5x FiQ0wTi5hEft664CT8vXo5qsZMnOhlSHrPdhOmeLucDw561wgx/a1ESZCzNc+UZ0Rl+ FrOA== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version:content-type; b=fv192Vj7//K/O/niBdmd4kqr5zTXoKhb62PEAE5rKYbTXlk+2yiVyrnLeqnHtDE7o QHh/ui34Nb1/68DwAqw9Q== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAD5qhHK012301; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:52:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:52:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: Tino Engel In-Reply-To: <47393AB9.7040709@web.de> Message-ID: References: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> <47393AB9.7040709@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:53:01 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Tino Engel wrote: No, I wanted to track the 6-release chain, but was just a little surprised...I thought this kind of CVS naming scheme didn't take place till much later in the release engineering process. -Dan > Dan Mahoney, System Admin schrieb: >> Hey All, >> >> I recently CVSUPPED to what I thought would be 6.2-STABLE but instead got >> 6.3-PRERELEASE. >> >> However, I look at www.freebsd.org/releng and I see no reference to the >> release cycle of 6.3. >> >> Was this a mistake of some sort? >> >> -Dan >> >> -- >> >> "Man, this is such a trip" >> >> -Dan Mahoney, October 25, 1997 >> >> --------Dan Mahoney-------- >> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek >> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC >> ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM >> Site: http://www.gushi.org >> --------------------------- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > The tag you want is RELENG_6_2 > -- "There is no right and wrong, there is only fun and boring." -Fisher Stevens, "Hackers" --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 06:18:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FA9116A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:18:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F0C813C480 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Nov 2007 06:18:43 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp048) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 07:18:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18BN81TvtoBq7nNK4MY2dd6vvRa0F2iw+ivn5jvGZ wuRCAecw8BgSyz Message-ID: <473941BD.9020807@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:18:37 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: RW , Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:18:56 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > Garrett Cooper wrote: >> [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >>> Garrett Cooper wrote: >>> USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). >>>> Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary >>>> and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers >>>> change >>>> variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. >>>> make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their >>>> desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however >>>> be a much better idea I think.. >>>> -Garrett >>>> >>> >>> Are you talking about make config-recursive? >>> >> Yes =\. Lemme guess.. that's already an option :)? > > I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports buildtime > thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either requires someone to be > chained to the computer, so as to intercept all those screens, or to > simply agree to install everything, with no inpput whatever. These are > both bad options. No, you got it wrong. You run 'make config-recursive' and get all the configure screens at once. Afterwards you can just run 'make install clean' and go away. Read the ports(7) manpage. If you're using sysutils/bsdadminscripts you can run 'portconfig-recursive -a' before a 'portupgrade -a' in order to avoid having someone sit in front of the machine during the portupgrade. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 06:24:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27BFC16A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:24:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F9513C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from [192.168.0.109] (68.33.62.187) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:24:27 -0800 Message-ID: <47394284.70306@ridecharge.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:21:56 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Marsh References: <000301c8259f$aceead50$0200a8c0@satellite> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dave , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: making packages from ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:24:37 -0000 Daniel Marsh wrote: > On Nov 13, 2007 11:48 AM, Dave wrote: >> Hello, >> I've got a box i'd like to build packages from ports on, and deploy >> those packages to other machines. I'll use postfix as an example. I did make >> package from postfix's directory and selected pcre and mysql support. I got >> the postfix tarball package, but when i tried to install it on another box >> it needed pcre and mysql-client packages. I had to run make package in each >> of their directories. I was wondering if there was a recursive way of >> package making? >> Thanks. >> Dave. > > Have a look at pkg_create(1) make package-recursive From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 06:26:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C825916A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2216313C494 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Nov 2007 06:26:23 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp042) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 07:26:23 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/w6B1Z+u/wjB7eT5lv1ni9o5/w48enOfRXG5iqLP ygZPR6WOuVoOs7 Message-ID: <4739438A.4010502@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:26:18 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <539c60b90711121829r3d1ff92fy151c096a1f22f225@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90711121829r3d1ff92fy151c096a1f22f225@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Ashley Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:26:45 -0000 Steve Franks wrote: > Not to mention, as a novice, I've discovered that for 20-60% of all > ports, messing with the defaults makes the port fail to build.... > > Steve This sounds rather unlikely if you use the provided WITH_* flags. In case you do something else with ports - well it's not meant to be done and thus your problem if it doesn't work. Messing with ports in an unintended way just screws up the plists, which results in an inconsistent package database. PS: Please don't top-post. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 06:46:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEC216A494 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E1E13C4BA for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:46:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp91-76-105-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [91.76.105.175]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243D5242F833; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:45:57 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:45:55 +0300 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071113064554.GB46672@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <002601c823d8$f80822d0$dedca8c0@dragon> <473640F5.6010506@web.de> <47365D0E.7000504@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47365D0E.7000504@web.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:46:08 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:38:22AM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > Dear FreeBSD folks, > > I have a weird problem: > > linux-firefox and linux-firefox-devel behave the same way. > When I quit them, and try to restart them, they complain about beeing > already running. > > I have to manually delete > > /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.prpfile/lock > /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.profile/.parentlock > > to be able to start them again. > > Normal firefox and firefox-devel do not behave this way, but I want to be > able to use the linux-flashplugin. > > Any hints? (Apart from writing a wrapper removing the lockfiles... How > ugly) - Never run Firefox under root. Please tell if it doesn't help you. - CC maintainer of the port when its not working (run "make maintainer" to get his address). - Don't start new threads on mailing-lists by hitting the "reply" button. Users of sane user agents will see your new question as part of some old discussion and have a good chance to miss it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 06:50:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB08F16A469 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 553E613C48E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:50:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 13 Nov 2007 06:22:03 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp055) with SMTP; 13 Nov 2007 07:22:03 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX189VZkCJkg9DQbTSO83sFwURFPMpWDCUn3CYwhsIO cea7psXA8hbayM Message-ID: <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:21:59 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:50:26 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > RW wrote: >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 >> Tino Engel wrote: >> >>> RW schrieb: >>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 >>>> Chuck Robey wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports >>>>> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either >>>>> requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept >>>>> all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with >>>>> no inpput whatever. >>>> That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make >>>> config-recursive anytime you like. >>>> >>>> >>> But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on >>> the whole ports tree though.... >> >> It's not hard to script it though, something like the following would do >> >> #!/bin/sh >> for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do >> cd /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive done > > I can't believe you actually suggested this. First thing, it would take > you HOURS to complete, and you better not make even one mistake, 'cause > you couldn't even go back far enough to figure out what the name was of > the port you muffed. Beyond that, since most ports ask questions formed > with the name of the target dependency, aznd not asking things like "do > you want such-and-such capability", so you have to be conversant with > the names and capabilities of nearly 10,000 ports, to be able to do that > job. It will only operate on 10000 ports if you have 10000 ports installed and a majority of them is outdated. I'm of the impression that you don't really know what the commands do you're shown here and come to ridiculous conclusions because of this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 07:02:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AE116A480 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACE813C48D for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp91-76-105-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [91.76.105.175]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB355242F917; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:01 +0300 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:12 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 05:45:42PM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > Dear all, > > Any help concerning the topic as follws would be very appreciated. > > freebsdangel# uname -a > FreeBSD freebsdangel.de 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sat Nov 10 20:15:45 > UTC 2007 root@freebsdangel.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > freebsdangel# > > It seems that this browser-plugin stuff is neverending. > All native freebsd browsers refuse to use plugins at all. > The linux versions of opera and and firefox correctly recognize the > linux-flashplugin7. > But the java-plugin is not recognized although having been linked correctly > from diablo portsinstall. You can't use native diablo jdk/jre with linux browsers. Try java/linux-sun-* > Another related issue: linux-flashplugin9 always segfaults the browser when > used. I dunno what to do, I would relly like to be able to watch latest > flash movies. This dead body is beaten every other day. Personally, I download flash movies and watch them with mplayer. Other solutions include dedicating your life to petitioning Adobe to stop making money and start porting their software to FreeBSD; and switching to Windows. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 07:02:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DA916A4A0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from fhw-relay07.plus.net (fhw-relay07.plus.net [212.159.14.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED6713C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=MAIN) by fhw-relay07.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1IrpmZ-0003tG-KM for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c825c3$1454a080$1c07a8c0@MAIN> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20071113054932.C9E6116A49A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:01:56 -0000 Organization: Custom PC North West MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Subject: Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Graham Bentley List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:02:28 -0000 http://www.presentaid.org/invt/oxandplough From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 07:10:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D9216A41B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B9EB13C4C8 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAD7AHb1046482; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:10:18 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAD7AHJj046481; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:10:17 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f From: Yuri Pankov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:10:16 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> In-Reply-To: <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711131010.17182.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:10:29 -0000 On Tuesday 13 November 2007 10:02:01 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 05:45:42PM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Any help concerning the topic as follws would be very appreciated. > > > > freebsdangel# uname -a > > FreeBSD freebsdangel.de 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sat Nov 10 > > 20:15:45 UTC 2007 root@freebsdangel.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC > > i386 freebsdangel# > > > > It seems that this browser-plugin stuff is neverending. > > All native freebsd browsers refuse to use plugins at all. > > The linux versions of opera and and firefox correctly recognize the > > linux-flashplugin7. > > But the java-plugin is not recognized although having been linked > > correctly from diablo portsinstall. > > You can't use native diablo jdk/jre with linux browsers. Try > java/linux-sun-* > > > Another related issue: linux-flashplugin9 always segfaults the browser > > when used. I dunno what to do, I would relly like to be able to watch > > latest flash movies. > > This dead body is beaten every other day. Personally, I download > flash movies and watch them with mplayer. Other solutions include > dedicating your life to petitioning Adobe to stop making money > and start porting their software to FreeBSD; and switching to > Windows. Latter looks like overkill :-) If you *really* need watch flash9 movies in browser, using WINE with Firefox and FlashPlayer9 can be reasonable choice. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 07:44:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E9316A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293F813C4AA for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:44:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from amd64.laiers.local (dslb-088-066-021-137.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.66.21.137]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1Irq3H0Zhs-0003Se; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:19:15 +0100 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:18:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <35f053b10711122236t7ce754eew69dd55144d5a144f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <35f053b10711122236t7ce754eew69dd55144d5a144f@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3916165.6uFiMNN0AU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200711130819.09271.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX193TY6SyJb39DhfrFBD+dcUAeEQoDpiswWMbl2 gghwFN+eQIqYAKTjZyDjiwx4BvF6zMovg+AiqnWkTy9Gubvaqv D2TcdIcoj74u4nDEtHa68S53jCvPaS/F+4mYcavhzM= Cc: Albert Meyburgh Subject: Re: monolithic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:44:50 -0000 --nextPart3916165.6uFiMNN0AU Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline =46irst off - freebsd-arch@ is not the right mailing list to ask these kind= =20 of basic questions. Plus, I'm hoping this is not a course work for you=20 CS class! On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Albert Meyburgh wrote: > I read that freebsd is monolithic. Is that still true? Yes in that it is not based on a "micro kernel" and that the kernel and=20 all it's services and drivers are running in one address space. > If I wanted to add functionality like device drivers, or maybe my own > tcp/ip stack, (or maybe add the facility to allow modules) do I have > to download the entire source and add it in there? That depends on the type of thing you want to do. FreeBSD offers a lot of= =20 entry points to hook in your code as needed. Device drivers can=20 absolutely be standalone modules (there are a few in the ports tree (e.g.=20 the nvidia one)). Your own TCP/IP stack is more tricky, but you could=20 use the netgraph(3) framework to hook that at runtime, too. > nothing available like a kernel module in linux? (which afaik you can > attach at runtime) Yes, kernel modules are available and can be attached at runtime=20 (depending on what they are doing). This doesn't make the kernel=20 non-monolithic, though. > also when I add packages using the ports system, then remove them, are > they completely gone or are there still random conf files / misc.. > laying around slowly bloating the hdd We try to make sure this does not happen. During the package build the=20 buildcluster checks for files that are not accounted for and issues a=20 warning to the maintainer. The strict rule of putting all 3rd party=20 programs under either /usr/local or /compat also helps to keep the mess=20 to a minimum. > also is there a way to scan for unused packages somehow and list them There is a tool called pkg_cutleaves in the ports tree that will show you=20 all ports that are not used by any other ports and lets you decide if you=20 want to keep them or not. There might be other solutions, too. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart3916165.6uFiMNN0AU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHOU/tXyyEoT62BG0RAlHBAJwMjP9g/53+nV0w+srFTWd4zAqOygCfUiC6 SQwgGDcqVOlI6WMaT+gkJng= =qpLX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3916165.6uFiMNN0AU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 07:49:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C46416A421 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF9813C4A8; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473956F5.4030207@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:49:09 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> In-Reply-To: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:49:10 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Hey All, > > I recently CVSUPPED to what I thought would be 6.2-STABLE but instead > got 6.3-PRERELEASE. > > However, I look at www.freebsd.org/releng and I see no reference to the > release cycle of 6.3. > > Was this a mistake of some sort? Only in your expectations :) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 07:50:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DD216A41B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5D113C48A; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <4739572A.30101@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:50:02 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> <47393AB9.7040709@web.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Tino Engel Subject: Re: 6.3-PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:50:04 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Tino Engel wrote: > > No, I wanted to track the 6-release chain, but was just a little > surprised...I thought this kind of CVS naming scheme didn't take place > till much later in the release engineering process. Relax...it's just a name :) Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 09:14:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0674F16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: from webmail1.b-one.net (webmail1.b-one.net [195.47.247.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91ED13C4BA for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) Received: by webmail1.b-one.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id 6520916A3C; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:44:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from 80.80.2.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user mailinglist@diamondbox.dk) by webmail01.one.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:44:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1156.80.80.2.75.1194943451.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> In-Reply-To: <4739572A.30101@FreeBSD.org> References: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> <47393AB9.7040709@web.de> <4739572A.30101@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:44:11 +0100 (CET) From: mailinglist@diamondbox.dk To: questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Msdos/FAT stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:14:27 -0000 Hi list, Recently I've been experimenting with fetching files via bittorrent clients, and storing torrents as well as their resulting files on a fat formatted slice (automatically recognized and setup during fbsd installation a couple of years ago). Now after adding around ~three or more concurrent torrents something happens with the fat slice and/or its driver. All programs trying to access the slice will freeze and this even includes the Gnome desktop. During shutdown, flushing of a little more than 1600 buffers fails. I run 6.2-release. Does the FAT driver contain known concurrency issues, and can I work around them by using certain mount parameters??? I have tried two different clients - ctorrent and transmission - and they both behave the same. All is well when using a std ufs slice. br Nikolaj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 10:28:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7475E16A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D4813C4B5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lADARU1R023420; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:27:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lADART9Z023417; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:27:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:27:29 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: mailinglist@diamondbox.dk In-Reply-To: <1156.80.80.2.75.1194943451.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> Message-ID: <20071113112638.X23392@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20071112185833.M12643@prime.gushi.org> <47393AB9.7040709@web.de> <4739572A.30101@FreeBSD.org> <1156.80.80.2.75.1194943451.squirrel@webmail01.one.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Msdos/FAT stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:28:06 -0000 > more concurrent torrents something happens with the fat slice and/or > its driver. All programs trying to access the slice will freeze and > this even includes the Gnome desktop. During shutdown, flushing of a > little more than 1600 buffers fails. > I run 6.2-release. Does the FAT driver contain known concurrency > issues, and can I work around them by using certain mount don't thing of msdosfs as high performance filesystem. it was writted to just works to be able to copy file to/from this. use UFS on FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 11:02:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A1D16A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982DF13C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <4739841E.4060501@intersonic.se> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:01:50 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070827) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: minicom macro to break into debugger on remote X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:02:03 -0000 Hi, Would some kind soul here advise me how to set up a F-key macro in minicom so I can break inte the debugger on a machine connected over the serial port? I assume that means the vt100 escape sequence for ctrl-alt-esc? Thanks, --per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 11:43:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426F816A468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jurjenm@stack.nl) Received: from mx1.stack.nl (meestal-mk5.stack.nl [IPv6:2001:610:1108:5010::149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF3A713C4A3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jurjenm@stack.nl) Received: by mx1.stack.nl (Postfix, from userid 65534) id EB36740A5D; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:43:32 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-DCC: SIHOPE-DCC-3: toad.stack.nl 1085; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on toad.stack.nl X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC, SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Relay-Country: NL Received: from jurjen (a62-251-106-27.adsl.xs4all.nl [62.251.106.27]) by mailhost.stack.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A0740B1E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:43:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by jurjen (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:41:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:41:31 +0000 From: Jurjen Middendorp To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: <20071113124131.GA1494@s062107.lan> Mail-Followup-To: Jurjen Middendorp , freebsd-questions References: <20071110175309.GA52076@s062107.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071110175309.GA52076@s062107.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: FOTLP (Federation Of Terribly Lazy People) Subject: Re: problems using gdb on threaded programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:43:34 -0000 Ok let me try again (more explanation/question below). Also sorry that i screwed up the script output by having a copy of the text in it... not sure how that happened! On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 05:53:09PM +0000, Jurjen Middendorp wrote: >Hello, when i try to debug a program with threads (with gdb) gdb complains >about not being able to find thread start point and kind of hangs (see >below). It is quite likely i misconfigured something, but i have no idea >what that something would be (maybe forgot to put stuff in kernel?). >I tried installing a newer version of gdb (6.6) but that fails in a >different way, it can't get the thread info (breakpoints seem to work >better though :) I also tried to recompile libpthread in /usr/src/lib with >debug flag, but no potato. >What else can i try now? i'm kind of stumped. > >- jurjen > >PS. Below is an output of the errors of gdb and a small program that fails. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Script started on Sat Nov 10 16:51:32 2007 > >/home/jurjen/C > $cat threadthingy.c >#include >#include > >void * >start(void* blah) >{ > printf("hello from a thread!\n"); > return NULL; >} > >int >main(void) >{ > pthread_t tid; > pthread_create(&tid, NULL, start, NULL); > pthread_join(tid, NULL); > printf("done!\n"); > return 0; >} > >/home/jurjen/C > $gdb66 threadthingy >GNU gdb 6.6 [GDB v6.6 for FreeBSD] >Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. >GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are >welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. >Type "show copying" to see the conditions. >There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. >This GDB was configured as "i386-portbld-freebsd6.2"... >(gdb) b main >Breakpoint 1 at 0x804860c: file threadthingy.c, line 11. >(gdb) b start >Breakpoint 2 at 0x80485d6: file threadthingy.c, line 5. >(gdb) r >Starting program: /stuff/backup/C/threadthingy > >Breakpoint 1, main () at threadthingy.c:11 >11 pthread_create(&tid, NULL, start, NULL); >(gdb) c >Continuing. > >Breakpoint 2, start (blah=0x0) at threadthingy.c:5 >5 printf("hello from a thread!\n"); >(gdb) info threads >(gdb) info thread >(gdb) help info threads >IDs of currently known threads. >(gdb) thread 1 >Thread ID 1 not known. >(gdb) thread 0 >Thread ID 0 not known. >(gdb) thread >[Current thread is 0 (process 53031)] >(gdb) thread next >No symbol "next" in current context. >(gdb) thread 0 >Thread ID 0 not known. >(gdb) info thread >(gdb) c >Continuing. The problem is here i think, why can't gdb display the thread-info? (Or find thread creation points (?) using an older version of gdb). Do i need to use another library/compiler flags if i want to debug threaded programs? - jurjen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 12:21:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842CB16A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5E513C4B5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 07:21:38 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id OAH04052; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 07:20:28 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18233.38603.702670.169259@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:21:31 -0500 To: Norberto Meijome In-Reply-To: <20071112141350.31799437@meijome.net> References: <18231.42932.352721.726895@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20071112014123.GF72824@dan.emsphone.com> <20071112141350.31799437@meijome.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Dan Nelson Subject: Re: can't think of program X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:21:47 -0000 My thanks to those who answered. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 12:58:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D142816A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0AF13C4BC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so1080080nzf for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:58:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4MOM/tPV+JD4RaGHbjM9SvDCEHXXkcfx4Bf7sYm87C0=; b=qkvFAlhjxrH7PObkPGMVD0580bWW0ox3r8YnkBEo0fOaR81xENGbYe2tiW+nUvEAZ6DlrzSZ4Y9S5byIQdQHKvz1YPPS7IGQQRBEbR3RZYj5s7HITLmNxCK3fMHBjZNUsJ/T31VQsuWLUfKS0XNzlJE8d08iFl4/DIoQOsL7OKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FfouKS48x/3WqHatSZSoKZHAscn6WJeaalBc61ZxWvovnJAZdOxv8bpQSGNbABGn+YjGtlfnbrmpezk/5YyzYrwEherhWK32jTfeiTE9jWvzeMaD+Y9WYS2EbE3FPsMrc3DlVIBPHPs4F996Y3snULDrfS3sVdpts8hnLeMXNXs= Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr894128wfb.1194957009252; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:30:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.12.12 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:30:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19861fba0711130430p6cc08013ibfd14b6fb9d2df60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:30:09 +0100 From: J65nko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:58:46 -0000 On Nov 12, 2007 9:08 PM, Alupului Costin wrote: > Hello all, > > I seem to have quite a problem with PF. I have set up a bridge to > shape my upstream traffic. I use ALTQ with hfsc discipline; but that's > not really important. My problem comes with the filter rules. I have > to use keep state because of the speed benefits (really I don't have a > choice), but PF has a problem when the clients passing traffic through > the bridge use TCP window scaling. Here is an example of four filter > rules that I thought should work to pass the traffic from one client > through the bridge and create a state: > > pass in quick on vlan0 from any to anIP/32 > pass out quick on vlan0 from anIP/32 to any keep state queue ul_client > pass in quick on vlan1 from anIP/32 to any > pass out quick on vlan1 from any to anIP/32 keep state queue dl_client > > The above rules generate state-mismatches. I thought that would be > because pf doesn't see the SYN packet, although it does (one of the > out rules) and should create the state then... I tried writing all the > rules with keep state (even the inbound ones) but then nothing would > work at all. My intention was to create if-bound states, but I > switched back to floating states in the hope that pf would associate > the state created by an outbound rule with the traffic returning on > another interface of the bridge; still didn't work. > > I have read the man page for if_bridge and set the following sysctl variables: > > net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 1 > net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 0 > net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 > > I have also read some posts on the web that said that pf simply > doesn't have all the hooks necesary to do the filtering inbound and > outbound, but reading the pfil man page I seem to disaggree with that. > > Has anyone encountered the same problem? And, more important: if i > give up the bridge setup and switch to routing, would that have any > effect? I.E: will I then be able to use keep state with the inbound > rules? > > Any help at all would be hugely appreciated as I am trying for about a > week to sort out this problem and can't seem to get any closer. The > only solution was to kindly ask my clients using TCP window scaling > (Vista mostly) to turn off this feature... Now I am seriously > considering bumping my bridge to a router but I am not sure that the > problem will be solved then. > > Oh, here is the setup of the bridge from rc.conf, although there > shouldn't be any problems there (the bridge works fine without pf, or > with pf stateless): > > # > # Core: em2 -> vlan1 > # Border: em1 -> vlan0 > # Bridge0 vlan0 -><- vlan1 > # > cloned_interfaces="bridge0 vlan0 vlan1" > ifconfig_em0="up" > ifconfig_em1="up" > ifconfig_em2="up" > ifconfig_vlan0="vlan 132 vlandev em1 up" > ifconfig_vlan1="vlan 132 vlandev em2 up" > ifconfig_bridge0="addm vlan0 addm vlan1 up" > # Admin iface > ifconfig_em0="inet adminIP netmask 255.255.255.0" > See "Create TCP states on the initial SYN packet" from http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060928081238 That paragraph explains nicely the necessity of pf to create state on the first packet of the 3-way TCP handshake to prevent TCP window scaling issues. =Adriaan= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 13:35:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D081716A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:35:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F3113C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:35:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1274908rvb for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:35:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=U7cicIE+dRIbVfoBejUPILY/o/tpq4UhPqgjnHZIzM4=; b=RjYiJsWjgxLbeU71j7mjGEAmH2PU6RTEm4hinrVMez7fwbK9+JENpO7gkzFY+yg4o7ESVqjvuCUSJHfiAwlGaNYZkFraUk6owZVuyPbMGZ2dbNwIMZdfmFYiPHEPqPPqu7RA/uECmWVUN62YjZkqyC6eu3WiDdM5kAMPaXtZyq8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=CLbGa1uFSHEc7aQxgTWyAiK8XvHV8B4K36DJaWUg9g+lSIgDknajWWQWA5eMe0WXTPSZijksCrn7LbFPIl+megukfPYyjyfKhF0oV+Mq4PBhWCmfIvp1H/oRsWU5ciBM0UkM8txmMEi02Fqtk8tskMIMUGTwHM1xfsqm6FFD+gA= Received: by 10.140.255.19 with SMTP id c19mr2825219rvi.1194960472857; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.29.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b34sm13257229rvf.2007.11.13.05.27.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B3E32143E7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:57:34 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:57:34 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113132734.GA16728@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Erik Osterholm References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> <20071113054220.GA74564@aleph.cepheid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071113054220.GA74564@aleph.cepheid.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: Erik Osterholm Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:35:08 -0000 On 23:42:20 Nov 12, Erik Osterholm wrote: > My understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong) is that > keeping state requires fragmented packet reassembly, which can break > some applications. You mean that you cannot support "broken applications" if you do reassembly? Packet reassembly happens if you use a scrub rule as well. The main problem with fragmentation leaving aside all performance and security considerations is that you cannot figure out anything useful from the IP fragments. The headers simply lack enough information for you to deduce anything. Reassembly does have an overhead..you can perhaps mention a delay involved in waiting for all fragments to arrive. But AFAIK it only helps if you reassemble. Never hurts. I am not aware of any breakage due to reassembly. ( But I could be ignorant). Now I specifically asked about scrub because scrub does a lot of other things which might "correctly" break "broken applications." I just wanted to give him enough rope. Very likely scrub causes no harm. Neither would keeping state... > Also, I've always followed the conventional wisdom > that bridges shouldn't keep state. A posting from the maintainer > supports this: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-pf/2005-September/001481.html > > Maybe this has changed--I'm not sure, but so far I haven't seen > performance issues with pf and if_bridge without keeping state, so I > haven't been worried about it. I just read the post you linked. Thanks. :) I would imagine that bridges would make things difficult for pf. I have never worked with bridges , so I cannot comment. Sorry. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 13:53:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F0B16A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from costin.alupului@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D4913C4B6 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from costin.alupului@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2054499waf for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:53:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Rf4lZ8BwtowQmQ+9L9P8RyH2hXrlqwZEurHRAFFlQuc=; b=CSFJtXnE+kV70PjDBjtX0EQNmr97Enz2AJ9ln8bYz5dziDkirM2VXBBuUGlgTxxGN67LEau5EVb/WRCD+zSSTGrDeQx5moEsPqG9iRB0xSQXyKKqF/QYkiqAWZ/iwNdYg18hz9iZD8/e2nPc1k8MUFhe+kufX5a2yGQp4jOOElE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UJ7tCe+i8vQ5HAkmktDadxdf7ofmI//vNLsG1sWnKDCgWEPqpRD/iDB4gzaimvNcoJ1Df6pXwcf1Vz889p6GP28ZZnYX7VfTyT4Af+PKwYLb+WEEJZrO4rENV5+Uxl9s+PiPni6iYdCQtp+n7o72uSqEPYe1uOriY3fG1nleNXc= Received: by 10.115.89.1 with SMTP id r1mr610405wal.1194962018545; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.24.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:53:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <669132de0711130553q3fde2394yfdb9a63b5ed67f8d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:53:38 +0200 From: "Alupului Costin" To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> Cc: Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:53:51 -0000 On Nov 13, 2007 4:20 AM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 22:08:03 Nov 12, Alupului Costin wrote: > > I seem to have quite a problem with PF. I have set up a bridge to > > shape my upstream traffic. I use ALTQ with hfsc discipline; but that's > > not really important. My problem comes with the filter rules. I have > > to use keep state because of the speed benefits (really I don't have a > > choice), > > One should always keep state. > > > but PF has a problem when the clients passing traffic through > > the bridge use TCP window scaling. Here is an example of four filter > > rules that I thought should work to pass the traffic from one client > > through the bridge and create a state: > > > > pass in quick on vlan0 from any to anIP/32 > > pass out quick on vlan0 from anIP/32 to any keep state queue ul_client > > pass in quick on vlan1 from anIP/32 to any > > pass out quick on vlan1 from any to anIP/32 keep state queue dl_client > > > > The above rules generate state-mismatches. > > Didn't get you. What sort of mismatch? When that client tries logging in to Yahoo Messenger I can see an increase in the number of state-mismatch reported by pfctl -si. There are states established, but after a while the packets simply do not match the states created. Also they will not create new states and nor will they match a catch-all rule which follows. > > > I thought that would be > > because pf doesn't see the SYN packet, although it does (one of the > > out rules) and should create the state then... I tried writing all the > > rules with keep state (even the inbound ones) but then nothing would > > work at all. My intention was to create if-bound states, but I > > switched back to floating states in the hope that pf would associate > > the state created by an outbound rule with the traffic returning on > > another interface of the bridge; still didn't work. > > > > Have you tried adding "flags S/SAFR" to the filter rules? > > Try it and let me know. I have tried using "flags S/SA" with the filter rules. The result was that states were created, but not matched by the rest of the packets in the stream. Packets would just match a catch-all rule that follows the above mentioned rules. Still it was better because the connection wouldn't just stall, but after all that was not statefull inspection anymore... > > > I have read the man page for if_bridge and set the following sysctl variables: > > > > net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 1 > > net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 0 > > net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 > > > > I have also read some posts on the web that said that pf simply > > doesn't have all the hooks necesary to do the filtering inbound and > > outbound, but reading the pfil man page I seem to disaggree with that. > > > > What do you mean? ? I mean that according to the pfil and if_bridge man pages pf should have all the hooks necesary to filter the packet inbound and outbound on both (/all) members of the bridge, provided that I have set up the sysctl variables as mentioned above. > > > Has anyone encountered the same problem? And, more important: if i > > give up the bridge setup and switch to routing, would that have any > > effect? I.E: will I then be able to use keep state with the inbound > > rules? > > Try it. Routing changes the topology a good deal. But I doubt if that is > the issue here. No harm in testing though. I have tried the same setup (without the queues) on a router and I used keep state on all the rules (even the inbound ones). Works perfectly. So I guess the problem really is the bridge. In that case I would kindly suggest that the pf.conf manual page should mention that statefull firewall has an unpredictable behaviour on bridges. I.E. you can not create states on inbound rules at all although filtering works. Another problem is that states created by outbound traffic don't seem to take into account the window scaling when the client uses that. I was a big fan of the bridge setup simply because it is transparent and I would choose the bridge over the router setup anytime, provided that it would work properly (i mean statefull firewall). > > > > > Any help at all would be hugely appreciated as I am trying for about a > > week to sort out this problem and can't seem to get any closer. The > > only solution was to kindly ask my clients using TCP window scaling > > (Vista mostly) to turn off this feature... Now I am seriously > > considering bumping my bridge to a router but I am not sure that the > > problem will be solved then. > > Try adding the flags switch as mentioned above. That way the states get > established only from a TCP Syn packet. > > You should also try flushing the old states using pfctl(8). I always flushed the old states over and over again. The flags did not help me. As I mentioned earlier they did establish the connection on the SYN packet, but the rest of the packets in the flow did not match that connection. > > > > > Oh, here is the setup of the bridge from rc.conf, although there > > shouldn't be any problems there (the bridge works fine without pf, or > > with pf stateless): > > Stateful filtering is always recommended. Performance is not the only > reason why you should use it. > > It also adds to security. Have you tried disabling normalization/scrub? Have tried without normalization, without fragment reassembly, with no-df... Pretty much all the combinations... I will answer here to Erik Osterholm also: Performance really is an issue here when I give up statefull inspection. The firewall contains roughly 2000 filter rules and the traffic passing through is 20kpps at peak hours. So it is a huge difference between statefull and stateless filtering. If I drop the stafefull filtering the machine simply cannot handle all the traffic, or in the best case scenario it develops quite some latency. > > Best, > Girish > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 13:55:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EDD16A420 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDD113C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.23] (adsl-068-209-177-221.sip.ard.bellsouth.net [68.209.177.221]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lADDqsS0014539 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:52:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:52:52 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> In-Reply-To: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:13 -0000 > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > invested. YMMV > http://xogiving.org/ I have to agree with many posters, this project is the most seriously misdirected, biggest crock of shit I've heard of in years. We're talkin' people in 3rd world conditions, without basic essentials of life, and some idiot wants to give them COMPUTERS?!?!? WFT? Where are they gonna get electricity to charge them, instruction in use, repair, software updates, etc. And they don't have toilet paper, so all the keys on the left half are gonna go bad! -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 13:55:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FA416A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807DD13C481 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.8/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id lADDPCPY063415 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:25:13 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 168 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED2B237768 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:25:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id AEFCA80; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:25:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:25:11 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113132511.GA45926@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:25:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/4762/Tue Nov 13 11:42:30 2007 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 4739A5B8.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Subject: Re: Msdos/FAT stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:55:50 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > don't thing of msdosfs as high performance filesystem. it was writted to > just works to be able to copy file to/from this. See Bruce Evans contribution: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200707201706.l6KH6vaQ000567 "msdosfs is now only slightly slower than ffs with soft updates for writing and slightly faster for reading when both use their best block sizes. Writing is slower for msdosfs because of more sync writes. Reading is faster for msdosfs because indirect blocks interfere with clustering in ffs." -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 14:15:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9448016A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:15:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B81013C4AA for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:15:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 142743054-1860479 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:15:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4739B18E.70005@chrononomicon.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:15:42 -0500 From: Bart Silverstrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:15:56 -0000 Rob wrote: >> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very >> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is >> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well >> invested. YMMV >> http://xogiving.org/ > > I have to agree with many posters, this project is the most seriously > misdirected, biggest crock of shit I've heard of in years. > > We're talkin' people in 3rd world conditions, without basic essentials > of life, and some idiot wants to give them COMPUTERS?!?!? WFT? Where > are they gonna get electricity to charge them, instruction in use, > repair, software updates, etc. And they don't have toilet paper, so all > the keys on the left half are gonna go bad! Have you read the articles on OLPC? They're made to run on very low power. They have batteries that can be crank-charged quickly, or run off small solar panels. Somehow I don't think they're short on sunlight there. The laptopgiving.org site states that it operates up to 2,000 recharge cycles and can be charged by crank, pedal, pullcord, or solar panel. It's not like they're shipping off-the-shelf laptops to them. While there are plenty of problems for these kids, the OLPC project is a way to try to help with education and interaction. The units work with a type of automatic mesh network. As I understand it, if one gets access to the Internet, they all can route to it, but even if not they connect to each other for social and collaborative applications. Just because there are many third-world countries out there doesn't mean that someone can't try something to improve things. Maybe it'll fail miserably. Maybe it'll help give a boost to the conditions of the education system. It's worse that you're in a place where you have plenty of access to education and information and you didn't bother to look up how the XO works before bashing it on the forums. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 14:23:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF8316A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E23E13C4B2 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so1100143nzf for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:23:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=qeKix4GJgwkRFZyKDfyk+/sCy2wUlktDlwoC7IGjVpw=; b=T+6kiQPcd1XCSwPEU7YWUbBQ7QFsRsNPG2s8cmjvE7LAu+OVOpi+d/bFI886oq7SKZPjU9RloKw4rMCsrIYaVy2r/u8Vyq2BQaTXY9km4LPCuYJJrXRMozPUWD9d0tvLvLxOeQUSLav5KceCf0NCXBimm+xgHvTGVsZ+s5afKFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=UeA/xQkV3Z7CK07IbEXjhW48Z+byUcHa2FRMsQUMTxb6EeLK5NhVaB1tk1Dtvm9GH8NC6NZTzLRxcp7j2HKrGC0mE5m30armV+y2fqv/wTO0o9nTlF8il8VRsapoUBO5jj2wb2AvcCmxyuJa7g6ci+xH9H+LrpkqAkAU+XO0mbI= Received: by 10.140.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr2832920rvg.1194963812609; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:23:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.29.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k2sm13288499rvb.2007.11.13.06.23.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 42D52143E7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:25:23 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:25:23 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113135523.GA13178@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Erik Osterholm References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> <20071113054220.GA74564@aleph.cepheid.org> <20071113132734.GA16728@saraswathy.susmita.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071113132734.GA16728@saraswathy.susmita.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Cc: Erik Osterholm Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:23:48 -0000 On 18:57:34 Nov 13, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > I just read the post you linked. Thanks. :) I read the post once again and it looks as though I understood what is mentioned there. The 'no-df' in scrub rule clears the Don't fragment bit in the IP header. When a host wrongly sends fragmented packets with the DF bit set, this scrub rule "correctly" resets the DF bit. Now since the host made the mistake of sending a fragmented packet with DF bit set ( this is like saying " Please don't fragment my packet, but I myself have fragmented". Odd...) no-df scrub rule causes trouble. Scrub never causes trouble with properly formed packets. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 14:35:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1315F16A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from costin.alupului@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEAAA13C49D for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from costin.alupului@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2069269waf for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:35:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+D0jEbOMAMuNa0uVUJrzNi3k3GXzFLtBluKs2G74uYA=; b=UzBjcUW4IR7dAkL+aWTDzgg5ww2/N9Fqr9zNh6AHAofLxUYjL86kHRoXTt+SNiQz+Tk3AU00KlmiWADX/2BXkeiAfid9i9ZuhyovwrI9jMduQ62/LODiLsMQCPp4p581IUyTtMCEWAtQtZ2huTCb4U07zkhxXkbDHNq1latZEbw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WN/+tM5qPz2rSGxH1ofeYOoUIheSL/DKPElqBuoPV0CJ1aOj1z8kUlAXAeR6iKkpuoEmJhbCg2DcERSMuyAIKphwhBkrw4s0KdKkhZEckRBbo58B4Zuawe8uimHPR5xYgRIZbf8O1A+IXNODH8PVws9u3/XfY6bEHEM+deRN/xk= Received: by 10.114.59.1 with SMTP id h1mr168491waa.1194964508276; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.24.18 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:35:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <669132de0711130635t4cc86e71x2eac32668d1b52b0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:35:08 +0200 From: "Alupului Costin" To: J65nko In-Reply-To: <19861fba0711130430p6cc08013ibfd14b6fb9d2df60@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <19861fba0711130430p6cc08013ibfd14b6fb9d2df60@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:35:16 -0000 On Nov 13, 2007 2:30 PM, J65nko wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2007 9:08 PM, Alupului Costin wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > I seem to have quite a problem with PF. I have set up a bridge to > > shape my upstream traffic. I use ALTQ with hfsc discipline; but that's > > not really important. My problem comes with the filter rules. I have > > to use keep state because of the speed benefits (really I don't have a > > choice), but PF has a problem when the clients passing traffic through > > the bridge use TCP window scaling. Here is an example of four filter > > rules that I thought should work to pass the traffic from one client > > through the bridge and create a state: > > > > pass in quick on vlan0 from any to anIP/32 > > pass out quick on vlan0 from anIP/32 to any keep state queue ul_client > > pass in quick on vlan1 from anIP/32 to any > > pass out quick on vlan1 from any to anIP/32 keep state queue dl_client > > > > The above rules generate state-mismatches. I thought that would be > > because pf doesn't see the SYN packet, although it does (one of the > > out rules) and should create the state then... I tried writing all the > > rules with keep state (even the inbound ones) but then nothing would > > work at all. My intention was to create if-bound states, but I > > switched back to floating states in the hope that pf would associate > > the state created by an outbound rule with the traffic returning on > > another interface of the bridge; still didn't work. > > > > I have read the man page for if_bridge and set the following sysctl variables: > > > > net.link.bridge.pfil_onlyip: 1 > > net.link.bridge.pfil_bridge: 0 > > net.link.bridge.pfil_member: 1 > > > > I have also read some posts on the web that said that pf simply > > doesn't have all the hooks necesary to do the filtering inbound and > > outbound, but reading the pfil man page I seem to disaggree with that. > > > > Has anyone encountered the same problem? And, more important: if i > > give up the bridge setup and switch to routing, would that have any > > effect? I.E: will I then be able to use keep state with the inbound > > rules? > > > > Any help at all would be hugely appreciated as I am trying for about a > > week to sort out this problem and can't seem to get any closer. The > > only solution was to kindly ask my clients using TCP window scaling > > (Vista mostly) to turn off this feature... Now I am seriously > > considering bumping my bridge to a router but I am not sure that the > > problem will be solved then. > > > > Oh, here is the setup of the bridge from rc.conf, although there > > shouldn't be any problems there (the bridge works fine without pf, or > > with pf stateless): > > > > # > > # Core: em2 -> vlan1 > > # Border: em1 -> vlan0 > > # Bridge0 vlan0 -><- vlan1 > > # > > cloned_interfaces="bridge0 vlan0 vlan1" > > ifconfig_em0="up" > > ifconfig_em1="up" > > ifconfig_em2="up" > > ifconfig_vlan0="vlan 132 vlandev em1 up" > > ifconfig_vlan1="vlan 132 vlandev em2 up" > > ifconfig_bridge0="addm vlan0 addm vlan1 up" > > # Admin iface > > ifconfig_em0="inet adminIP netmask 255.255.255.0" > > > > See "Create TCP states on the initial SYN packet" from > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20060928081238 > > That paragraph explains nicely the necessity of pf to create state on > the first packet of the 3-way TCP handshake to prevent TCP window > scaling issues. I aggree with you. My problem is why doesn't pf establish the connection correctly with the first outbound rule (the SYN packet passes that rule). Furthermore: why everything stalls if I use keep state on the inbound rules also? Because that would make the most sense: using keep state with every rule... In a routing environment it all works fine, but not with the bridge. So I guess that the problem could be the bridge, although everything else works fine besides "keep state" on inbound rules... Costin > > =Adriaan= > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 15:22:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4159616A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E9513C4AA for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from usleepless@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so1117282nzf for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:22:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4ok0DOwtN/qvcROHmQJAMlexLwTsOLL3gkCEPT2bcoc=; b=GsgyT7T6CQwq2rxA03Pj0rV7FKE5hB1LmWI1yUZJakqp4ZO7Crw2jpNZvpiejH1Zk9lJqDWMWcVEIntYrimzPViy1jh2Kv3ejopxEpLnAjobE8cqhpLvaiuGgvqIUbQXmS/NiLokOr4firqlsY35Vj/Rho7FLVdCmwwukkLvMec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WierC37v71qjBNT+aRo6yxcWQHzzsAZzFeWiQfQaAzyL3rjN4wzLgUsK3Qgy4zFOa8rLWIUHbR8EVEZDrUh0SDC7hW3lLKu7OOgJkFm07NmosE47JVj0NP9p/5+u/GilMSqyao7jDFd/SyU5L1J9KTe2BVjcxrpJTwG2csuE2Ts= Received: by 10.142.229.4 with SMTP id b4mr1744835wfh.1194965739714; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.178.14 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:55:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:55:39 +0100 From: usleepless@gmail.com To: Rob In-Reply-To: <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:22:53 -0000 On Nov 13, 2007 2:52 PM, Rob wrote: > > I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very > > strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is > > offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well > > invested. YMMV > > http://xogiving.org/ > > I have to agree with many posters, this project is the most seriously > misdirected, biggest crock of shit I've heard of in years. > > We're talkin' people in 3rd world conditions, without basic essentials > of life, and some idiot wants to give them COMPUTERS?!?!? WFT? Where > are they gonna get electricity to charge them, instruction in use, > repair, software updates, etc. And they don't have toilet paper, so all > the keys on the left half are gonna go bad! when the F! is this going to end? all that is happening here is an exchange of stereotype opinions about the matter. nothing new, nothing original, nothing is going to come out of this, all this has been discussed already on numerous sites ( slashdot, digg, wherever ). your opinion is useless to freebsd-questions. please go annoy your relatives and friends. furthermore, you are extremely short sighted. are you aware rice was dumped in some African countries which ruined their local rice farmers? ever heard of "learned helplessness"? ever considered that not all children in 3rd world countries starve to death? if anyone wants to ramble on, please do so on the chat list. or bugger of to digg. pardon my french, usleep PS: you should be ashamed of yourself regarding your statement about the toilet paper. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 15:31:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C425716A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from trans-warp.net (hyperion.trans-warp.net [216.37.208.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB6713C481 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsilver@chrononomicon.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [65.193.73.208]) by trans-warp.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 142752732-1860479 for multiple; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:31:12 -0500 Message-ID: <4739C342.5080406@chrononomicon.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500 From: Bart Silverstrim User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: usleepless@gmail.com References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: bsilver@chrononomicon.com Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:31:20 -0000 usleepless@gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 13, 2007 2:52 PM, Rob wrote: >>> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very >>> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is >>> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well >>> invested. YMMV >>> http://xogiving.org/ >> I have to agree with many posters, this project is the most seriously >> misdirected, biggest crock of shit I've heard of in years. >> >> We're talkin' people in 3rd world conditions, without basic essentials >> of life, and some idiot wants to give them COMPUTERS?!?!? WFT? Where >> are they gonna get electricity to charge them, instruction in use, >> repair, software updates, etc. And they don't have toilet paper, so all >> the keys on the left half are gonna go bad! > > when the F! is this going to end? > > all that is happening here is an exchange of stereotype opinions about > the matter. nothing new, nothing original, nothing is going to come > out of this, all this has been discussed already on numerous sites ( > slashdot, digg, wherever ). > > your opinion is useless to freebsd-questions. please go annoy your > relatives and friends. > > furthermore, you are extremely short sighted. are you aware rice was > dumped in some African countries which ruined their local rice > farmers? ever heard of "learned helplessness"? ever considered that > not all children in 3rd world countries starve to death? > > if anyone wants to ramble on, please do so on the chat list. or bugger > of to digg. You're aware that by offering your opinion while chastising people for doing likewise, you're contributing to the topic you're chastising, right? ;-) -Bart From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 16:26:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2276316A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marceloc@espoltel.net) Received: from jupiter.espoltel.net (jupiter.espoltel.net [200.49.242.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D540113C4AC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marceloc@espoltel.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.espoltel.net [127.0.0.1]) by jupiter.espoltel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590542DB0DF; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:58:20 -0500 (ECT) Received: from jupiter.espoltel.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jupiter.espoltel.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id 31655-14; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:58:18 -0500 (ECT) Received: from [172.26.5.40] (unknown [69.65.149.194]) by jupiter.espoltel.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247EB2DA7C3; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:58:18 -0500 (ECT) From: Marcelo Celleri To: Jerry McAllister In-Reply-To: <20071112165453.GE98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200711111727.55766.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <8cb6106e0711111538x7864254fibbb7d96ae055a890@mail.gmail.com> <20071112165453.GE98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Organization: ESPOLTEL Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:54:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1194969260.5044.10.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavis-new and ClamaV at ESPOLTEL Cc: Josh Carroll , Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk drive serial number X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: marceloc@espoltel.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:26:47 -0000 Install dmidecode from ports, its a great tool to audit your hardware and is also available for Linux. El lun, 12-11-2007 a las 11:54 -0500, Jerry McAllister escribi=C3=B3: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:38:08PM -0500, Josh Carroll wrote: >=20 > > > is there a way to get the serial number from a drive from within th= e OS? im > > > trying to audit the drives in my file server, but without pulling t= he thing > > > from the rack and cracking it open. they are just standard sata dr= ives, not > > > on any sort of raid controller (ie, i know 3ware cards are capable = of pulling > > > the drive info). > >=20 > > Check dmesg (or /var/run/dmesg.boot). The serial number should show, = e.g.: > >=20 > > ad8: 381553MB at ata4-master SATA150 >=20 > Which is the serial? > I see the extended model id. >=20 > ////jerry >=20 > >=20 > > Thanks, > > Josh > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freeb= sd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" --=20 ---------------------------------- Marcelo C=C3=A9lleri M. Jefe IP ESPOLTEL S.A. PBX 593 04 2514477 Ext. 114 ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 16:43:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1A916A420 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965B713C480 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1331280rvb for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:43:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=+5+gkz6yd97o2ipvJ2nuefpgFX0eOeutTm1YKBlLFi4=; b=PstUnfSJlKxOcjlI5Qh9iksyF05xqmMqDk7Ko3eF1ipjXHCQUf5oHLlOGuzKAxCo/J8Dk8IJLuvDXT5Tpqqr8ZgYpnJXnw1c+Y3/rN8bkec9AA/ai6wyYfcnRG+5wLMLx3y1h1xpLcwEWfAwtby6uFG9kCCPrOGjDsLLtdUAQIA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=OduMgW9CZSR9VWATNXCW7JpJ6++4J/BH7gr7DPH/zYwER4YzW0fhXapD6sFV+sc2IxUJ6yGKZPKmmjPgWNQK517ak9L4Mf+4IrjAtqUghZuHfn3TgbTqp3fQ3wcC33js/cLi45IKV9me8CDdTM2V/97EUGfji0+Gsukxq8W6bC8= Received: by 10.141.122.20 with SMTP id z20mr2932131rvm.1194972178716; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:42:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.29.156]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm567155rvi.2007.11.13.08.42.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:42:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 2AD14143E7; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:12:51 +0530 (IST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:12:51 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113164251.GA5640@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> <669132de0711130553q3fde2394yfdb9a63b5ed67f8d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <669132de0711130553q3fde2394yfdb9a63b5ed67f8d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:43:08 -0000 On 15:53:38 Nov 13, Alupului Costin wrote: > When that client tries logging in to Yahoo Messenger I can see an > increase in the number of state-mismatch reported by pfctl -si. There > are states established, but after a while the packets simply do not > match the states created. Also they will not create new states and nor > will they match a catch-all rule which follows. > Have you tried bumping up the state expiry timeout values? > I have tried using "flags S/SA" with the filter rules. The result was > that states were created, but not matched by the rest of the packets > in the stream. Packets would just match a catch-all rule that follows > the above mentioned rules. Still it was better because the connection > wouldn't just stall, but after all that was not statefull inspection > anymore... States are established and looked up based on unique 5 tuples or whatever. I don't expect a bug here. I think the packets that do not match the existing state entries have different keys into the state lookup table. IOW they don't form part of the same stream. > I have tried the same setup (without the queues) on a router and I > used keep state on all the rules (even the inbound ones). Works > perfectly. So I guess the problem really is the bridge. In that case I > would kindly suggest that the pf.conf manual page should mention that > statefull firewall has an unpredictable behaviour on bridges. I.E. you > can not create states on inbound rules at all although filtering > works. Another problem is that states created by outbound traffic > don't seem to take into account the window scaling when the client > uses that. > I was a big fan of the bridge setup simply because it is transparent > and I would choose the bridge over the router setup anytime, provided > that it would work properly (i mean statefull firewall). > But bridging is more complicated to manage and this problem seems to point to that. Also did you read the other post? There is some info about bridging caused state mismatches. > I always flushed the old states over and over again. The flags did not > help me. As I mentioned earlier they did establish the connection on > the SYN packet, but the rest of the packets in the flow did not match > that connection. In that case I am pretty much exhausted. I can't think of any other possibility. > Have tried without normalization, without fragment reassembly, with > no-df... Pretty much all the combinations... > > I will answer here to Erik Osterholm also: > > Performance really is an issue here when I give up statefull > inspection. The firewall contains roughly 2000 filter rules and the > traffic passing through is 20kpps at peak hours. So it is a huge > difference between statefull and stateless filtering. If I drop the > stafefull filtering the machine simply cannot handle all the traffic, > or in the best case scenario it develops quite some latency. > Indeed. Stateful firewalling improves performance by a huge magnitude due to the shortcuts that packets take instead of having to descend down the pf ruleset. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 16:45:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F1416A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:45:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AFE13C4AC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:45:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id E9EC49B4057; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:45:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:45:14 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071113164514.GA86464@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> <20071113054220.GA74564@aleph.cepheid.org> <20071113132734.GA16728@saraswathy.susmita.org> <20071113135523.GA13178@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071113135523.GA13178@saraswathy.susmita.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:45:22 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:25:23PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 18:57:34 Nov 13, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > > I just read the post you linked. Thanks. :) > > I read the post once again and it looks as though I understood what is > mentioned there. > > The 'no-df' in scrub rule clears the Don't fragment bit in the IP > header. When a host wrongly sends fragmented packets with the DF bit > set, this scrub rule "correctly" resets the DF bit. > > Now since the host made the mistake of sending a fragmented packet with > DF bit set ( this is like saying " Please don't fragment my packet, but > I myself have fragmented". Odd...) no-df scrub rule causes trouble. > > Scrub never causes trouble with properly formed packets. > > regards, > Girish Ah, that makes sense! In fact, if I'd done a little more reading, I'd see that OpenBSD suggests the same: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/scrub.html They mention that there are some problems (NFS specifically, and "some online games"). I believe that we've also seen some weird behavior with Active Directory, but I'd have to check to make sure. Thanks for the information! 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( [85.207.232.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm4203451hue.2007.11.13.09.21.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:40 -0800 (PST) From: Milan Bartos To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:20:51 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711131820.51778.merlyn500@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: releng_7, can't compile gcc (make buildworld) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:49:10 -0000 Hi, I am running 7.0-BETA2 and i have following problem: I fetched the latest releng_7 sources via cvsup from *default=20 host=3Dcvsup3.FreeBSD.org. But: =2D - - - - Vallhala#make buildworld cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I. -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=3D\= "/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/g= nu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../..= /../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/g= cc/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/in= clude -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/libcpp= /include -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcclibs/lib= decnumber -g -DGENERATOR_FILE -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legac= y/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/g= engtype.c In file included from ./tm.h:4, =20 from /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/gengtype.c:24: =2E/options.h:375: error: redeclaration of enumerator 'OPT_d' =2E/options.h:373: error: previous definition of 'OPT_d' was here =2E/options.h:898: error: redeclaration of enumerator 'OPT_w' =2E/options.h:896: error: previous definition of 'OPT_w' was here *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Vallhala# =20 =2D - - - - My gcc version is: =2D - - - - [Vallhala]~>gcc -v Using built-in specs. Target: i386-undermydesk-freebsd Configured with: FreeBSD/i386 system compiler Thread model: posix gcc version 4.2.1 20070719 [FreeBSD] [Vallhala]~> =2D - - - - and uname -a =2D - - - - Vallhala# uname -a =46reeBSD Vallhala 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sun Nov 11 22:06:08 CET = 2007 =20 root@Vallhala:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Vallhala#=20 =2D - - - - Is it bug, bad feature or problem in my system? Thank you, Milan Barto=B9 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 17:51:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E9316A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:51:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E096813C4E5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:51:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id ED9CB9B4057; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:51:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:51:20 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Alupului Costin Message-ID: <20071113175120.GB86464@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Alupului Costin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <669132de0711121208n32bfb827p4984c6d3383da713@mail.gmail.com> <20071113022053.GA17768@saraswathy.susmita.org> <669132de0711130553q3fde2394yfdb9a63b5ed67f8d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <669132de0711130553q3fde2394yfdb9a63b5ed67f8d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PF, bridge, states and window scaling problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:51:38 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 03:53:38PM +0200, Alupului Costin wrote: > On Nov 13, 2007 4:20 AM, Girish Venkatachalam > wrote: > > On 22:08:03 Nov 12, Alupului Costin wrote: > > > > > > pass in quick on vlan0 from any to anIP/32 > > > pass out quick on vlan0 from anIP/32 to any keep state queue ul_client > > > pass in quick on vlan1 from anIP/32 to any > > > pass out quick on vlan1 from any to anIP/32 keep state queue dl_client > > > > > > The above rules generate state-mismatches. > > > > Didn't get you. What sort of mismatch? > > When that client tries logging in to Yahoo Messenger I can see an > increase in the number of state-mismatch reported by pfctl -si. There > are states established, but after a while the packets simply do not > match the states created. Also they will not create new states and nor > will they match a catch-all rule which follows. I wonder why it's not creating new states. Could you be running out of kernel memory? Are they actual syn packets? > I will answer here to Erik Osterholm also: > > Performance really is an issue here when I give up statefull > inspection. The firewall contains roughly 2000 filter rules and the > traffic passing through is 20kpps at peak hours. So it is a huge > difference between statefull and stateless filtering. If I drop the > stafefull filtering the machine simply cannot handle all the traffic, > or in the best case scenario it develops quite some latency. I didn't mean to imply that performance wasn't an issue on your part, just mentioning it on ours. I know that keeping state is probably ideal in general, but depending upon your ruleset, it may be possible to optimize it so that keeping state isn't required for performance. For example, if you have many rules which are identical except for the host, you can use a table to keep track of the hosts and then only a few rules. This can speed things up dramatically. (Sorry if I'm telling you things that you already know--I'm not familiar with your level of expertise.) Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 18:06:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8985F16A468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E42A13C4A8 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 13:06:33 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id OAI15923; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:06:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 13:05:26 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18233.59301.105746.169541@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:06:29 -0500 To: infofarmer@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Tino Engel , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:06:44 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin writes: > This dead body is beaten every other day. Personally, I download > flash movies and watch them with mplayer. I know about youtube-dl; is there a generic method for doing this with other Flash content? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 18:18:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 348A716A419 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E290013C4C1 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so3040225qbd for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:18:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=SCI0WAAFta12gWWZCU9rDF7hHhdHXXKACN7G2W9e7aQ=; b=d3KJUXBX+jcGsDuIKaW1fzuCN3KGgfdxTemGWaHCX9uMQiIBCq370kgqd6I9dRh28Kcp9x8BN15C1U4XE3f8tQVBtFMcMnCNzSVWk/v7q90qchKVAc4KQwi5f7AkQZXk9SIOmELZIcHADUU1UJA2Bqo5QV9KepFJVhEFawFnYrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=edyyPZe6qr0MBOG4WszW9sxUq/ERkNXH95Syw7ujJCiWlSqLQQvkSi3CA8bhBz3P9fj4P/1J5/ceRUpIn0gMMyKnVkpY7nKQXERWEVSKlYDL54TH7TwyxozQHyzQfS9KEoz3CxbZLVeJMV6A7F5BgcQ85LYUn+6JYcnoFy/X2QE= Received: by 10.64.201.7 with SMTP id y7mr9609999qbf.1194977897706; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.180.6 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:18:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:18:17 +0200 From: "David Naylor" Sender: naylor.b.david@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, iaccounts@ibctech.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: eca7d6a361b36024 Cc: Subject: Re: OT: Beastie 3D-rendered X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:18:26 -0000 Hi, This wallpaper has actually been around for a long time, as seen at: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=34233 At this site it does say it has been released under a BSD license (go figure :-) I hope this helps. I would like to second the request for the sources to this image, it is such a wonderful image! Good hunting David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 18:46:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB8FA16A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B590613C491 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:46:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp91-76-105-175.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [91.76.105.175]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A79A242F82B; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:46:05 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:46:03 +0300 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20071113184602.GF46672@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> <18233.59301.105746.169541@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18233.59301.105746.169541@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Tino Engel , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:46:16 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 01:06:29PM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > Andrew Pantyukhin writes: > > > This dead body is beaten every other day. Personally, I download > > flash movies and watch them with mplayer. > > I know about youtube-dl; is there a generic method for doing > this with other Flash content? www/xpi-unplug www/xpi-videodownloader From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 20:21:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F51416A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:21:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from x2oxen@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD43713C4AC for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:21:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from x2oxen@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so281644ika for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:21:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=MSgl3IAQwp5ijpStq31vY2K1eI/F+t21NZlZjDblgUY=; b=LgTFcWQQUucI64lXzDNeaW69+5W5G43UF2JSZTpQEvwnUwO9IkGcoOn0scQRPbKwuX2QcpDmecKZ6CA8zR+8OxFyoU7D0Oo2BFvXKsTUBxDp8tAiylxAT7zL+QMjCKASq0GoHdcaUUhPq0NnQWgBk2hFdsjwrXym3wpjGgulcDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=sGDEjUGv3oU/iBNow8sXV2As655Q/0UNl70VWPmlOJztamZT+hDkCoSulYipkCEuY4+4nfZWOOM19kqG8XdiJhnoRAOCo5+P1gcvR3xPcBbjc7oWDqUgIYg2YHUwhe35LL0EKLBQwL2aD/V7gNJkPoLwDenlFFYcuBWmxJDDlUI= Received: by 10.150.178.6 with SMTP id a6mr1241936ybf.1194983686189; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.115.17 with HTTP; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:54:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:54:46 +0500 From: "Muhammad Usman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Broken port link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:21:14 -0000 Hello There! While i was trying to install p5-Apache-ASP i got error. /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci is corrupted. There are some files missing in this port. Will anybody let me know that where to report this bug. /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci -- B.RGDS Muhammad Usman (x2oxen) +92-321-6640501 Blue Net BroadBand T-Solutions Pvt. 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Futhermore : I would like the offer one working list, for our *BSD activities (mainly FreeBSD) mainly monthly meeting where we build FreeBSD systems site: http://bsd.wifisoft.org/trac/ mail bsd@wifisoft.org => mailman http://wifisoft.org/mailman/listinfo/bsd kind regards, Marten Vijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 21:42:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F1C316A419; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0000813C442; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:42:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lADLgbr1028752 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:42:38 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from dzihan.cs.washington.edu (dzihan.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.96]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lADLgaga015587 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:42:37 -0800 Message-ID: <473A1A4C.1080407@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:42:36 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: usleepless@gmail.com References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.13.132249 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CP_NAME_SUBJ 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __PHISH_PHRASE11 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:42:39 -0000 usleepless@gmail.com wrote: > On Nov 13, 2007 2:52 PM, Rob wrote: > >>> I am usually not the one to bring up these things but I feel very >>> strongly about this. Starting Monday, November 12 this website is >>> offering a give one get one deal. I believe the money will be well >>> invested. YMMV >>> http://xogiving.org/ >>> >> I have to agree with many posters, this project is the most seriously >> misdirected, biggest crock of shit I've heard of in years. >> >> We're talkin' people in 3rd world conditions, without basic essentials >> of life, and some idiot wants to give them COMPUTERS?!?!? WFT? Where >> are they gonna get electricity to charge them, instruction in use, >> repair, software updates, etc. And they don't have toilet paper, so all >> the keys on the left half are gonna go bad! >> > > when the F! is this going to end? > > all that is happening here is an exchange of stereotype opinions about > the matter. nothing new, nothing original, nothing is going to come > out of this, all this has been discussed already on numerous sites ( > slashdot, digg, wherever ). > > your opinion is useless to freebsd-questions. please go annoy your > relatives and friends. > > furthermore, you are extremely short sighted. are you aware rice was > dumped in some African countries which ruined their local rice > farmers? ever heard of "learned helplessness"? ever considered that > not all children in 3rd world countries starve to death? > > if anyone wants to ramble on, please do so on the chat list. or bugger > of to digg. > > pardon my french, > > usleep > > PS: you should be ashamed of yourself regarding your statement about > the toilet paper. > Again, please act like adults and stop this bikeshed on this list, as there are many people subscribed to it. End of discussion. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 22:17:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D861216A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C46613C467 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E66AE7D00A; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.173.23] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Is44h-0004Pj-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:39 +0100 Message-ID: <473A2267.6020208@web.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:11 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org References: <002601c823d8$f80822d0$dedca8c0@dragon> <473640F5.6010506@web.de> <47365D0E.7000504@web.de> <20071113064554.GB46672@amilo.cenkes.org> In-Reply-To: <20071113064554.GB46672@amilo.cenkes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/NZvrxghmi1MN2bVXePP220zOB7+yyFWYk6x9c ebsD7altBvY5c8ArHLZJ7dQjfCscjn8c3RgyjR7McdsuJPdJL+ BHA8MMe3I= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:17:54 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin schrieb: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:38:22AM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > >> Dear FreeBSD folks, >> >> I have a weird problem: >> >> linux-firefox and linux-firefox-devel behave the same way. >> When I quit them, and try to restart them, they complain about beeing >> already running. >> >> I have to manually delete >> >> /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.prpfile/lock >> /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.profile/.parentlock >> >> to be able to start them again. >> >> Normal firefox and firefox-devel do not behave this way, but I want to be >> able to use the linux-flashplugin. >> >> Any hints? (Apart from writing a wrapper removing the lockfiles... How >> ugly) >> > > - Never run Firefox under root. Please tell if it doesn't help > I do not have another account > you. > - CC maintainer of the port when its not working (run "make > maintainer" to get his address). > Will be done > - Don't start new threads on mailing-lists by hitting the "reply" > button. Users of sane user agents will see your new question as > part of some old discussion and have a good chance to miss it. > Okay, recognized, I'll NEVER do so again.... Cheers, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 22:23:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00BA16A417 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA8213C468 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:23:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D658AAD53832; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:23:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.173.23] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Is49u-0007mn-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: <473A23AA.50407@web.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:22:34 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Muhammad Usman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX188+shw+uIQmKyjZ2SJJhOFgg7IGb/83bSGoL3c SKutiBxr9XeRDD9YOZdNSCHlme5WV1a/FwDhF7akKOecO6VBRh IIj/EOat4= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken port link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:23:55 -0000 Muhammad Usman schrieb: > Hello There! > While i was trying to install p5-Apache-ASP i got error. > /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci is corrupted. There > are some files missing in this port. Will anybody let me know that > where to report this bug. > > /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci > > Probably check out the owner on freebsd.org/ports... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 22:29:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3055F16A481 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from EXHUB015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251E913C504 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:29:40 -0800 Message-ID: <473A2553.3020401@riderway.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:29:39 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Muhammad Usman References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Broken port link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:29:51 -0000 Muhammad Usman wrote: > Hello There! > While i was trying to install p5-Apache-ASP i got error. > /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci is corrupted. There > are some files missing in this port. Will anybody let me know that > where to report this bug. > > /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci That would be to the maintainer -- at the moment, thats me. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 22:30:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6598016A41B for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8FA13C4E3 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lADMUEPx062354; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:30:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lADMUDhL062353; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:30:13 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Michael Rudolph Message-ID: <20071113223013.GA62132@thought.org> References: <20071111225550.GA42346@thought.org> <200711120058.15259.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> <20071112023746.GA44553@thought.org> <200711121108.25391.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200711121108.25391.michael.rudolph@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD's and fonts.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:30:28 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 11:08:24AM +0100, Michael Rudolph wrote: [[ ... ]] > I assume konqueror is chocking because you have font previews enabled. > If you deselect "Font Files" in konquerors View > Preview submenu, > prior to entering your font directory, you should be able to use > konqueror. As I said before, it's a piece of cake to do it this way. We evidently have our browsers configured differently because I didn't find anything-fonts under View. And all I find under Settings -> "Configure Konqueror" -> "TT\nFonts" didn't seem to apply... . > > If you want to do it as per the handbook, you'd have to copy your font > files to an appropriate directory, which could look something like > this: > > # cp /media/cdrom/1/*.ttf /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType Yes, this CLI command did work. It's the same as I used on my Ubuntu server. For FBSD I had to use another command to correctly build the truetype font files for X. But works. Thanks for your help! > > I'm not sure if I understood you question correctly, but either the man > page for cp(1) might help or you ask again here. I have a slew of Postscript files that I ported for use with the free version of the Enscript port, but these should work almost the same way. cheers! gary > > Have a nice time. > > michael -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 22:52:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3114116A469; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:52:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6DB13C50B; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85557B09FD94; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:19:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.173.23] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Is46N-0006uS-00; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:19:23 +0100 Message-ID: <473A22CF.1030708@web.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:18:55 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> In-Reply-To: <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//RrGdSBDoWnuHWogKoGvA38LzfZ9zWFu5Y09T WGBdIm/gNnYXv3HrEibCGZZrCmnkw0WHbT5lBQrASNmRHD2FpL Iq67kJi7o= Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:52:49 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin schrieb: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 05:45:42PM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Any help concerning the topic as follws would be very appreciated. >> >> freebsdangel# uname -a >> FreeBSD freebsdangel.de 7.0-BETA2 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA2 #0: Sat Nov 10 20:15:45 >> UTC 2007 root@freebsdangel.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 >> freebsdangel# >> >> It seems that this browser-plugin stuff is neverending. >> All native freebsd browsers refuse to use plugins at all. >> The linux versions of opera and and firefox correctly recognize the >> linux-flashplugin7. >> But the java-plugin is not recognized although having been linked correctly >> from diablo portsinstall. >> > > You can't use native diablo jdk/jre with linux browsers. Try > java/linux-sun-* > > I did so... Doesn't work either... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 23:00:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DFF16A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s33.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s33.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBAA13C47E for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from que_deseja@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY108-W8 ([65.54.162.108]) by bay0-omc1-s33.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:59:56 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.203.60.169] From: Desmond Chapman To: Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:59:56 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2007 22:59:56.0530 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8CCDD20:01C82648] Subject: Port upgrade good..almost X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:00:04 -0000 I used portmanager to upgrade, but came across a few problems that I need h= elp with. Ports-mgmt tools is still under sysutils. Xorg has upgraded everything except the libraries- they are still at the 6.= x stage for me. And I am horrible at making symlinks and removing old ports. Any suggestions for tutorials to help me? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0= Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL10062= 6971033= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 23:20:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B6C16A418 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F2A13C4C5 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp85-141-133-248.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.141.133.248]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA3F242F8A6; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:20:10 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:20:06 +0300 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071113232005.GJ46672@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <002601c823d8$f80822d0$dedca8c0@dragon> <473640F5.6010506@web.de> <47365D0E.7000504@web.de> <20071113064554.GB46672@amilo.cenkes.org> <473A2267.6020208@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473A2267.6020208@web.de> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: linux firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:20:18 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:17:11PM +0100, Tino Engel wrote: > Andrew Pantyukhin schrieb: >> On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:38:22AM +0000, Tino Engel wrote: >> >>> Dear FreeBSD folks, >>> >>> I have a weird problem: >>> >>> linux-firefox and linux-firefox-devel behave the same way. >>> When I quit them, and try to restart them, they complain about beeing >>> already running. >>> >>> I have to manually delete >>> >>> /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.prpfile/lock >>> /usr/compat/linux/root/.mozilla/firefox/*.profile/.parentlock >>> >>> to be able to start them again. >>> >>> Normal firefox and firefox-devel do not behave this way, but I want to be >>> able to use the linux-flashplugin. >>> >>> Any hints? (Apart from writing a wrapper removing the lockfiles... How >>> ugly) >>> >> >> - Never run Firefox under root. Please tell if it doesn't help >> > I do not have another account Using your computer under root account is the Windows way of doing things. But even in that world it is now strongly recommended to create a non-privileged account and use it for most tasks. In the Unix world, root is most commonly reserved for system administration tasks. Run adduser (without any arguments) to enter a simple interactive process of adding a new user - and don't use root when you don't need it. See the FreeBSD Handbook for more info on this and other topics. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 00:05:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE0516A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-40.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-40.bluehost.com [69.89.20.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 73CB813C442 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 1369 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2007 00:04:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 00:04:20 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Is5jw-00015J-Au for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:04:20 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAE04sQ2065694 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:04:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAE04sK9065693 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:04:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:04:53 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071114000453.GD65454@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200711110852.40855.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200711110852.40855.freebsd@dfwlp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: what changed recently with browser plugins? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:05:47 -0000 On Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 08:52:40AM -0600, Jonathan Horne wrote: > i want to say it was early to mid-october, that standard opera and firefox > stopped working (upon upgrade) with the plugins (flash). previously, most > flash that i would encounter worked fine in opera, which was my preference > since java (such as weathermaps on www.noaa.gov) worked without a hitch as > well. > > now that time has passed, flashplugin has stopped working with standard opera, > and now that im woefully using linux-opera, the java stuff doesnt work like i > would expect. > > is there anyway to get my updated system to behave like it used to? (mostly > pertaining to flash, as java still works right under 'standard' opera). I think it was about the same time linux-flashplugin7 + nspluginwrapper stopped working with Firefox here. Now, instead of Flash objects, I just get a broad, empty area where the Flash object is supposed to appear. Oh, and I get absurdly slow page load times where I didn't before, too. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] They always say that when life gives you lemons you should make lemonade. I always wonder -- isn't the lemonade going to suck if life doesn't give you any sugar? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 00:36:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADF216A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npu3pak@icnet.ru) Received: from icnet.ru (portal.inetcom.ru [194.187.205.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D421913C45A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:36:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npu3pak@icnet.ru) Received: from [194.187.207.211] by icnet.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Is5r4-0003kB-KD; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:11:42 +0300 Message-ID: <473A3D39.4080108@icnet.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:11:37 +0300 From: "Grigoriy S. Gusew" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Grant Peel References: <013a01c82537$457df210$6501a8c0@GRANT> In-Reply-To: <013a01c82537$457df210$6501a8c0@GRANT> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on icnet.ru); Exit with error (see exim mainlog) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFW or ProFTPD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:36:06 -0000 Check for bruteblock or sshit in /usr/ports/security i got bruteblock installed and it works for 3 months already, blocking bruteforcers from all over the world :) Grant Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > I am getting lots of brute force attacks on my proftpd server and was > wondering if anyone knows of a way for IPFW to check incomming > connections and automagicaly block an IP for a period of time when too > many connections are made on a port, or if any Proftpd gurus out there > know if there is a mod that does the same thing. I have mod_Delay > installed, but it does not seem to help much. > > TIA, > > -Grant > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 02:04:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B5116A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF73913C459 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:04:16 -0800 Message-ID: <473A579F.5090207@riderway.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:04:15 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <473A23AA.50407@web.de> In-Reply-To: <473A23AA.50407@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Muhammad Usman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Broken port link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:04:20 -0000 Tino Engel wrote: > Muhammad Usman schrieb: >> Hello There! >> While i was trying to install p5-Apache-ASP i got error. >> /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci is corrupted. There >> are some files missing in this port. Will anybody let me know that >> where to report this bug. >> >> /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci >> >> > Probably check out the owner on freebsd.org/ports... http://tb1.p6m7g8.net/logs/7-STABLE/p5-Apache-ASP-2.59.log works for me, did you build mod_perl as a dso or statically ? I.E. /usr/ports/www/apache13-modperl vs /usr/ports/www/apache13 /usr/ports/www/mod_perl > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 02:04:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FCB16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB7813C447 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAE24pZ6046498 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:04:51 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id lAE24oTv016136; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:04:50 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:04:50 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: What server for a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:04:56 -0000 Hi, I have a project where I should set-up a mail server for approximately 12000 users, 4000 virtual domains, 15000 messages per day, 700 MB traffic per day. The machine should run Postfix, courrier-imap and a web mail (probably squirel), Apache 2, spamassassin, clamav, greylist What type of machine should I target, in terms of CPU and RAM? TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 02:30:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C4C16A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:30:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7C813C44B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup60.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.60]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAE2U6wh001420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:30:15 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAE2TxZ6002189; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:30:00 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAE2TuGI002188; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:29:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:29:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Olivier Nicole Message-ID: <20071114022956.GA2140@kobe.laptop> References: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.938, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What server for a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:30:54 -0000 On 2007-11-14 09:04, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > I have a project where I should set-up a mail server for approximately > 12000 users, 4000 virtual domains, 15000 messages per day, 700 MB > traffic per day. > > The machine should run Postfix, courrier-imap and a web mail (probably > squirel), Apache 2, spamassassin, clamav, greylist > > What type of machine should I target, in terms of CPU and RAM? If you saturate an 100 Mbit/s network interface, it can push/pull more than 800 GB per day, so it's not the network that is going to be the problem :) Depending on the number of *concurrent* connections you want to support, and bearing in mind the post-processing you want to do (filtering with clamav, spamassassin, and serving web pages through the web interface), it may be worth aiming for a machine which has SMP support, and a fair amount of physical memory. I'd go for at least a 3 GHz processor, and 4 GB of physical memory. If amd64 is an option, you can even shoot for 8 GB of RAM or more. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 02:35:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7217A16A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EA213C442 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:35:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAE2YkLs048327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:34:46 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id lAE2Ykp9016352; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:34:46 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:34:46 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: How to reset a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:35:05 -0000 Hi, On a mail server, I do some update of some lists on a daily basis, using wget. I am testing the script that will do the update, including some timestamping with wget (hopefully). I want to be able to test various combinations of parameters of wget for robust transmission, so I want to simulate some network failure. How can I manually reset an established TCp connection? TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 02:42:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D3D16A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE4413C46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:42:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 21:42:05 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JIF49117; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 21:40:52 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18234.24690.239824.947693@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:41:54 -0500 To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to reset a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:42:08 -0000 Olivier Nicole writes: > How can I manually reset an established TCp connection? Ask Comcast. :-) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 03:10:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9255E16A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1EF13C447 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 22:10:04 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JIF56662; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:10:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2007 22:08:57 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18234.26375.844671.397739@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:09:59 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <18234.25217.475159.615201@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <18234.24690.239824.947693@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.25217.475159.615201@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: How to reset a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:10:04 -0000 Robert Huff writes: > > Olivier Nicole writes: > > > > > How can I manually reset an established TCp connection? > > > > Ask Comcast. :-) My apologies for being cryptic. In the United Stated, cable television and Internet provider Comcast has recently come under criticism for "managing" bittorrent traffic by sending TCP RST packets to those who are over some unannounced traffic limit (i.e. hogging the bandwidth). Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 03:35:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B366816A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302F713C448 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAE3FKA8050477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:15:20 +0700 (ICT) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.6/8.12.11) id lAE3FKJV016781; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:15:20 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:15:20 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200711140315.lAE3FKJV016781@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: roberthuff@rcn.com In-reply-to: <18234.26375.844671.397739@jerusalem.litteratus.org> (message from Robert Huff on Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:09:59 -0500) References: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <18234.24690.239824.947693@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.25217.475159.615201@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.26375.844671.397739@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to reset a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:35:30 -0000 > In the United Stated, cable television and Internet provider > Comcast has recently come under criticism for "managing" bittorrent > traffic by sending TCP RST packets to those who are over some > unannounced traffic limit (i.e. hogging the bandwidth). Well I only plan to reset connections that I establish, and for testing purpose only :) I am looking for a softer way than pulling the network plug... Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 04:00:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE18D16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npu3pak@icnet.ru) Received: from icnet.ru (portal.inetcom.ru [194.187.205.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9839A13C43E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npu3pak@icnet.ru) Received: from [194.187.207.211] by icnet.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Is99u-0005jR-6J; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:43:22 +0300 Message-ID: <473A6ED0.3040600@icnet.ru> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:43:12 +0300 From: "Grigoriy S. Gusew" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <18234.24690.239824.947693@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.25217.475159.615201@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.26375.844671.397739@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200711140315.lAE3FKJV016781@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200711140315.lAE3FKJV016781@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on icnet.ru); Exit with error (see exim mainlog) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to reset a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:00:09 -0000 see "man 8 tcpdrop", may be that is what you need. Olivier Nicole ïèøåò: >> In the United Stated, cable television and Internet provider >> Comcast has recently come under criticism for "managing" bittorrent >> traffic by sending TCP RST packets to those who are over some >> unannounced traffic limit (i.e. hogging the bandwidth). >> > > > Well I only plan to reset connections that I establish, and for > testing purpose only :) > > I am looking for a softer way than pulling the network plug... > > Olivier > _______________________________________________ > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 04:15:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2D716A46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B805D13C48A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id PAA01342; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:15:34 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:15:33 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Bart Silverstrim In-Reply-To: <20071113232029.CDCBA16A4D1@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: One (FreeBSD?) Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:15:52 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:15:42 -0500 Bart Silverstrim wrote: [..] > Have you read the articles on OLPC? > > They're made to run on very low power. They have batteries that can be > crank-charged quickly, or run off small solar panels. Somehow I don't > think they're short on sunlight there. The laptopgiving.org site states > that it operates up to 2,000 recharge cycles and can be charged by > crank, pedal, pullcord, or solar panel. > > It's not like they're shipping off-the-shelf laptops to them. While > there are plenty of problems for these kids, the OLPC project is a way > to try to help with education and interaction. The units work with a > type of automatic mesh network. As I understand it, if one gets access > to the Internet, they all can route to it, but even if not they connect > to each other for social and collaborative applications. Indeed. Putting aside any ignorance or bigotry regarding whether or not other than rich countries' kids should have access to computers and IT, surely the on-topic issue is "Can we run FreeBSD on the OLPC laptop?" >From what I've been able to quickly discover about the machine's specs: http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php/Hardware_specification http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Software_components http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware it should be emininently suitable as a FreeBSD small/embedded project? Standard issue runs Linux 2.6.22 FC7 on 'Open Firmware', though now of course M$ want to put winders on it, saying, in effect, "If it's open, it should also be open to closed-source software" (ahem :) Just how Linux-dependent the other software components are I don't know, but it mostly looks like stuff that should run fine on FreeBSD to me. I guess the rather unique video display arrangements may pose a real challenge, though it's not like it should need any real reverse-engineering. The mesh networking is of particular interest, to me anyway. Seems they've been playing with OLSR and BATMAN and haven't really firmed this aspect up yet, from my hour or so of googling; it's still early days .. So, does anyone know if anyone's looked into porting FreeBSD to OLPC? Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 05:01:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389B716A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE21413C467 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 79826 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 05:01:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=LVjODnv4ScIoMCcbOJsHRU3RYH9Y5kPFL4UgxQ7G6R5PLE9vi/S6bHzvYgpVw5GwWGiuNpPvEVTD0f8owGGw+KzlRnhLRTzXX2eTfjtLU372WTAmNIPJP+YzTp8qbd3Miwz1YwM8K8+GmHFneYhupM8qOyM+XvIyuMp19XLUAqk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 05:01:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qcMerzsVM1kJrnaqbX_JJOLFO.3L8TpMHZHX2w2qVllNL.7mGGVA6IuFbI60pATlrUYnvaQwoo5hoTtilAObl7FSFMtCS5XwHVa9N_WvN2hCx3U1OYXiRN0HTR.UBA-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9726ff48cfd0898fc1183cb14ec3bae6@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: User Questions From: jekillen Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:01:58 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: Postfix, dns, and hosts.allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:01:24 -0000 Hello: I have a question about Postfix and hosts.allow: Sendmail and exim are mentioned in the file and I assume that Sendmail would refer to Postfix sendmail as well as Sendmail. But Since Postfix runs smtp.d, how would I do Postfix in hosts.allow? I also have a question about how postfix would resolve names outside of the local domain, Does it use resolve.conf, hosts.equiv, nsswitch or does it need a local name server. I set it up and tried sending a test message from that host the the prodigy.net address (of this message) and it just seems to have disappeared. I was successful sending a message on internal network link from another machine. I was not successful sending a message to user@thisdomain.tld from another machine (This address would have had to have been resolved by my name servers, whether it went all the way out to the isp's system and beyond, and then back, or just from one static ip address to the other, courtesy of my adsl router ). I did turn smtp 'on' in inetd.conf. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 05:04:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8875516A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp122.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp122.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60A3313C468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:04:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 27669 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 05:04:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=nbsnGDLnGumjQjphme7dLK3lJ54ASNfiZZHCxGDKkqUwApQ50gl9Xsqe9Qr8wjRigy9ekYMJWTz2+OPm4edGuxON6x2sg1uP8D2DX42cR+1e1oMw0LWHjmRG8wrIQ03ZGN2m8CGU0u/Bc3eqEbndjJcxq44qxuZ2ykerNvfdEmk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp122.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 05:04:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uhfTIeUVM1lGWgZAIdF6yxgBLrhrXpS285Kicvo1WryAYJQi8iPDa0B_yiwHKuVcq2mTM7Ia4A-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: User Questions From: jekillen Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:05:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: re: Postfix, dns, and hosts.allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:04:40 -0000 Sorry: I sent this message by mistake before completing it. I had also sent the same message to the postfix user list. Thank you in adance for into Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 05:47:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B93E16A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from mtao01.charter.net (mtao01.charter.net [209.225.8.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F4F413C45B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:46:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mtao01.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071114054645.BXIW18969.mtao01.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:46:45 -0500 Received: from robs-laptop.com ([71.85.241.27]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071114054645.XENK14098.aarprv06.charter.net@robs-laptop.com> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:46:45 -0500 Message-ID: <473A8BC4.6000005@charter.net> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:46:44 -0600 From: icantthinkofone User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Subject: FreeBSD cache memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:47:02 -0000 Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't know anything about it and would love to respond. [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify memory cache. For that reason MS has the beautiful MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 06:12:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F16116A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from EXHUB015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924BC13C4D1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:12:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:12:58 -0800 Message-ID: <473A91E9.8040809@riderway.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:12:57 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freebsd questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: inspiron 1721 xorg/ati radeon 1270 Xpress freebsd amd64 8-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:12:59 -0000 Hi all, I just bought an Inspiron 1721 b/c I had a ridiculous deal. Its CPU: AMD Turion 64 x2 TL-64 (2.2GHz/1MB) RAM: 4GB pc25300 sodimm (2x2GB) (upgraded manually) Screen: 17.0 wide screen (1920x1200) VGA: ATI RADEON Xpress1270 256MB HyperMemory HD: 320G (2x 160) 5400RPM SATA UDMA33 RAID: ATI [fast track(tm)] Sound: Integrated High Definition Audio 2.0 (additional Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Audio Express yet to try) 1) Doesn't look like this video card is supported. Is there one I can buy and replace it with thats known to work preferably at 1920x1200 or as close as I can get to it. 2) The RAID card doesn't work, I called dell directly (via my rep) they can't tell me anything more specific about that card *sigh* disabling the RAID card via 'Cntrl-F' in the Fasttrack utility and in the BIOS 'F2' to Auto Detect works around this I suppose I'll take it apart soon and look at the raid card itself. I'm trying this with FreeBSD 8-CURRENT as of today, both GENERIC and a custom KERNEL. Detailed System Information is here: http://people.apache.org/~pgollucci/1720/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 07:08:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6977516A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [209.31.154.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B3513C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lAE6e810026675 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:40:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:40:08 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20071114013236.U99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (pemaquid.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:40:09 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: PHP can not find core function X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:08:29 -0000 I am trying to evaluate two php billing programs, One gives no errors, syntax or otherwise, the other fails to find the mysql_real_escape_string function. I the later case I assume I have a path problem. It seems that something in the code of the first program is turning off errors. Both programs work on FreeBSD 4.11 and php4. The failing system is FreeBSD 6.2 and php5. My setup: php.conf PHP_VER=5 PHP_VERSION=5.2.4 PHP_SAPI=cli cgi mod php.ini is php.ini-recommended with the following changes: display_errors = On display_startup_errors = On ignore_repeated_source = On track_errors = On include_path = ".:/php/includes" The following ports are installed: php5-5.2.4_1 PHP Scripting Language php5-session-5.2.4_1 The session shared extension for php php5-xml-5.2.4_1 The xml shared extension for php phpinfo() shows the configure command as: './configure' '--with-layout=GNU' '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php' '--disable-all' '--enable-libxml' '--with-libxml-dir=/usr/local' '--enable-reflection' '--program-prefix=' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs' '--with-regex=php' '--with-zend-vm=CALL' '--disable-ipv6' '--prefix=/usr/local' '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' I am not sure what else is relevant. I am quite lost, any help is greatly appreciated. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 07:17:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20E416A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B930213C4D3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAE7H4Fu042635; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAE7H47A042629; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:04 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:03 -0800 Message-ID: <1195024623.473aa0efca55f@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:03 -0800 From: Yuri To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.219.144.224 Cc: yuri@tsoft.com Subject: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:17:11 -0000 What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese character? I use KDE. All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 07:58:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8998816A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:58:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19EB213C504 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:58:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68EBE04C5; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:21 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:48:18 +0100 From: cpghost To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20071114084818.377cb6c8@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <18234.26375.844671.397739@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <200711140234.lAE2Ykp9016352@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <18234.24690.239824.947693@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.25217.475159.615201@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <18234.26375.844671.397739@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to reset a TCP connection X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:58:34 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:09:59 -0500 Robert Huff wrote: > Robert Huff writes: > > > > Olivier Nicole writes: > > > > > > > How can I manually reset an established TCp connection? > > > > > > Ask Comcast. :-) > > My apologies for being cryptic. > In the United Stated, cable television and Internet provider > Comcast has recently come under criticism for "managing" bittorrent > traffic by sending TCP RST packets to those who are over some > unannounced traffic limit (i.e. hogging the bandwidth). This reminds me of an old bug ("sniper bug"): http://net.tamu.edu/tamunet/announce/1995/19950825-151018.html I've had a setup with those NICs on a university network in the '95, and those machines' TCP/IP stack kept wildly and seemingly randomly shooting down TCP connections between unrelated Unix hosts (sic!) with TCP RST packets (we've still had unswitched Ethernet, even a 10-base-5 yellow snake in the data center with a few PCs tapped on it). It nearly drove me nuts until I've intercepted and detected those spurious TCP RST packets with a sniffer (and at first, the sniffer machine had also one of those buggy NICs, go figure!) So Comcast is doing it all over again? Shooting down connections from the middle? Crazy nasty folks over there! A short-term fix is to filter out TCP RST packets at the firewall, and let TCP connections time out, even though it could waste a lot of kernel memory on busy nodes. cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 08:02:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAE116A421 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7379C13C45B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAE82GoT011905; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:02:17 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:02:14 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1195024623.473aa0efca55f@webmail.rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <1195024623.473aa0efca55f@webmail.rawbw.com> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711140202.14868.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: Yuri , yuri@tsoft.com Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:02:23 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 01:17:03 am Yuri wrote: > What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese character? > I use KDE. > > All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) Have you tried kcharselect ? David -- This message is presented in DoubleVision (where intoxicated) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 08:19:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D04816A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893BA13C442 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAE8Ja4X075341; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAE8JaHU075340; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:19:36 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:19:35 -0800 Message-ID: <1195028375.473aaf97ea27f@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:19:35 -0800 From: Yuri To: David J Brooks References: <1195024623.473aa0efca55f@webmail.rawbw.com> <200711140202.14868.freysman@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200711140202.14868.freysman@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.219.144.224 Cc: yuri@tsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:19:42 -0000 > > All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) > > Have you tried kcharselect ? Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and press Enter nothing happens. I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like &9991;) But it goes the opposite way: from UNICODE number to the character. The problem though that there are ~20K Chinese characters in UNICODE table. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 08:20:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A54E416A474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:20:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gonnabefun@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AC113C46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gonnabefun@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so116290fka for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:20:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:reply-to:x-priority:message-id:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KLH+agW2pdBMkDh+EisxKu/bN0qTDOpCwcxz7cqeS+M=; b=BRwKUGRd8/7G04Kc2rYJrFkzvO+cFlSqX76x4M6/0QoLLDXvCXDnd+maiHf3yso8H32FMp4vl3Kc6FMJxApr9mOQm0LyZE8DF+h1TRlIlm4+YzK6DjqsgIeFVFGD9r9kOfXiP3dJH7UPhbK3K3qQalNPv8XK4cbr3pS1L1hCNIc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:reply-to:x-priority:message-id:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f+nCM87xkAveaagld16gQIElxUtuUAuWip2iR8Yx8ZMj5rk/kdhfTX1uujujnwAZBterpMsHCJ+ooB8cnR7Zj0BlTPatiWG5VFr2Tw3Vvh9f0e8JeH61U4+I6Sn4ApBr11UmdaKoZd1eLuAsqyQpH4zkprBpQqlr3raPLdku5KQ= Received: by 10.82.177.3 with SMTP id z3mr17002962bue.1195026657734; Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from maes.venta.dp.ua ( [62.64.85.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5sm1827991nfi.2007.11.13.23.50.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:50:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:50:51 +0200 From: Eugene X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1788688982.20071114095051@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: master->backup CARP issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugene List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:20:16 -0000 Hello freebsd, We have two FreeBSD boxes, each one has 4 CARP interfaces in preempt mode, without arp balancing. Backup without any reason preempts Master and after a while (an hour or two) it becomes Backup again. When Backup becomes Master on Master box net.inet.carp.suppress_preempt: 1, but all interfaces are up and seemed to work properly. Is there any ways to debug this issue? Additional info: #uname -v FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p7 Master: # grep carp /var/log/messages Nov 14 01:50:59 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 01:52:30 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 02:43:55 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 02:59:12 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 03:26:13 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 03:26:32 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 04:58:39 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 05:53:27 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 06:01:12 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) Nov 14 06:03:36 atlas kernel: carp2: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) Nov 14 06:03:36 atlas kernel: carp0: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) Nov 14 06:03:36 atlas kernel: carp1: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) Nov 14 06:03:38 atlas kernel: carp3: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) Master & Backup (in normal state) #sysctl -a | grep "net.inet.carp." net.inet.carp.allow: 1 net.inet.carp.preempt: 1 net.inet.carp.log: 2 net.inet.carp.arpbalance: 0 net.inet.carp.suppress_preempt: 0 all NICs - 3Com 3c905C-TX Master: #ifconfig | grep -A2 carp carp0: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 10 carp1: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 10 carp2: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.3.3 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: MASTER vhid 3 advbase 1 advskew 10 carp3: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.4.3 netmask 0xfffffff8 carp: MASTER vhid 4 advbase 1 advskew 10 Backup #ifconfig |grep -A2 carp carp0: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: BACKUP vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 20 carp1: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 1.1.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: BACKUP vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 20 carp2: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.3.3 netmask 0xffffff00 carp: BACKUP vhid 3 advbase 1 advskew 20 carp3: flags=49 mtu 1500 inet 10.1.4.3 netmask 0xfffffff8 carp: BACKUP vhid 4 advbase 1 advskew 20 Master: #netstat -ni |grep carp Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll carp0 1500 311894 1 5926852 0 0 carp0 1500 10.1.1 10.1.1.3 42293866 - 263238 - - carp1 1500 48653 1 5663615 0 0 carp1 1500 10.1.2 10.1.2.3 153785957 - 0 - - carp2 1500 48661 1 5663615 107 0 carp2 1500 10.1.3/24 10.1.3.3 476782 - 0 - - carp3 1500 48974 1 5663634 1155 0 carp3 1500 10.1.4.3/ 10.1.4.3 6885622 - 0 - - Backup: #netstat -ni |grep carp Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll carp0 1500 35221 0 6437 0 0 carp0 1500 10.1.1 10.1.1.3 8699 - 0 - - carp1 1500 35220 0 6438 0 0 carp1 1500 10.1.2 10.1.2.3 86000 - 0 - - carp2 1500 35221 0 6437 0 0 carp2 1500 10.1.3/24 10.1.3.3 0 - 0 - - carp3 1500 35190 0 6443 23 0 carp3 1500 10.1.4.3/ 10.1.4.3 958 - 0 - - Thanks in advance! -- Best regards, Eugene mailto:gonnabefun@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 08:27:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522BA16A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A38113C447 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <473AB15E.7080203@intersonic.se> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:27:10 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070827) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Olivier Nicole References: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What server for a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:27:13 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have a project where I should set-up a mail server for approximately > 12000 users, 4000 virtual domains, 15000 messages per day, 700 MB > traffic per day. > > The machine should run Postfix, courrier-imap and a web mail (probably > squirel), Apache 2, spamassassin, clamav, greylist > > What type of machine should I target, in terms of CPU and RAM? My advise would be to run Postfix and mail scanning on a separate box. --per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 09:11:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9B216A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6B3F13C469 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAE9BUih016058; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:11:31 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: Yuri Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:11:28 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1195024623.473aa0efca55f@webmail.rawbw.com> <200711140202.14868.freysman@comcast.net> <1195028375.473aaf97ea27f@webmail.rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <1195028375.473aaf97ea27f@webmail.rawbw.com> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711140311.29245.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: yuri@tsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:11:36 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:19:35 am Yuri wrote: > > > All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) > > > > Have you tried kcharselect ? > > Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and pre= ss > Enter nothing happens. > I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like &9991;) > > But it goes the opposite way: from UNICODE number to the character. > The problem though that there are ~20K Chinese characters in UNICODE tabl= e. You can look up the character on the table and get the code point. =E4=BE= =86 =3D =20 U+4f86, but with 20k characters that would be a hassle. Sorry I couldn't be= =20 more helpful. David =2D-=20 Soon to be a major religion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 09:40:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320A616A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C913013C478 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:40:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2718441pyb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:40:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jSOINT8e2b0hEmHev4bIcUZNEah9+uYDYSxdirSWQl0=; b=Hyu8AYq1g21Zg0S/NBbTeUiypO0fkFyjGKw6L5Xwxje8L7uUV8ljsWidj/SFugh3ZhWtOBLdvmCP0ekUGbMIyuuyMBD0cmCwhJFmigQ1uPPx89JPmtgj5SDXn2WqrlGqfX7YW4yl9umFjC8FxkngSJ4n/BzSP+K2mw96AxN0yuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=d57ZhSGAD8myAvr2SmMeiaa2AC6XiyWDkrYBciOxKP+5irPuJGnNeZajG4vjGj6xtbzfTnr+oObGt3X4eaYVHOD0bM+BRemcHwD5+wCzPYm6u9uKj+jYkvqy36RCAwrJu0zdds5ALtSE3RWiDTm5ZMHWjUgy6jCt/cP0g5ye6aY= Received: by 10.35.40.10 with SMTP id s10mr8578330pyj.1195031699864; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.1.1.100? ( [203.125.55.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f57sm748188pyh.2007.11.14.01.14.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 01:14:58 -0800 (PST) From: OutbackDingo To: David J Brooks In-Reply-To: <200711140311.29245.freysman@comcast.net> References: <1195024623.473aa0efca55f@webmail.rawbw.com> <200711140202.14868.freysman@comcast.net> <1195028375.473aaf97ea27f@webmail.rawbw.com> <200711140311.29245.freysman@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:13:56 +0800 Message-Id: <1195031658.30690.13.camel@z60m.optimlabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Yuri , yuri@tsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:40:13 -0000 would utf2ascii be any help here or recode ?? both are in ports On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 03:11 -0600, David J Brooks wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:19:35 am Yuri wrote: > > > > All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) > > > > > > Have you tried kcharselect ? > > > > Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and press > > Enter nothing happens. > > I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like &9991;) > > > > But it goes the opposite way: from UNICODE number to the character. > > The problem though that there are ~20K Chinese characters in UNICODE table. > > You can look up the character on the table and get the code point. 來 = > U+4f86, but with 20k characters that would be a hassle. Sorry I couldn't be > more helpful. > > David From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 09:58:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2759616A49A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC4813C507 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAE9wGDd067443; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:58:16 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAE9wEgj067442; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:58:14 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:58:14 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: doug@safeport.com Message-ID: <20071114095814.GA67269@darklight.org.ru> References: <20071114013236.U99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071114013236.U99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PHP can not find core function X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:58:47 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:40:08AM -0500, doug@safeport.com wrote: > I am trying to evaluate two php billing programs, One gives no errors, > syntax or otherwise, the other fails to find the mysql_real_escape_string > function. > > I the later case I assume I have a path problem. It seems that something in > the code of the first program is turning off errors. Both programs work on > FreeBSD 4.11 and php4. The failing system is FreeBSD 6.2 and php5. > > My setup: > > php.conf > PHP_VER=5 > PHP_VERSION=5.2.4 > PHP_SAPI=cli cgi mod > > php.ini is php.ini-recommended with the following changes: > > display_errors = On > display_startup_errors = On > ignore_repeated_source = On > track_errors = On > include_path = ".:/php/includes" > > The following ports are installed: > > php5-5.2.4_1 PHP Scripting Language > php5-session-5.2.4_1 The session shared extension for php > php5-xml-5.2.4_1 The xml shared extension for php > > phpinfo() shows the configure command as: > > './configure' '--with-layout=GNU' > '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php' '--disable-all' > '--enable-libxml' '--with-libxml-dir=/usr/local' '--enable-reflection' > '--program-prefix=' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs' '--with-regex=php' > '--with-zend-vm=CALL' '--disable-ipv6' '--prefix=/usr/local' > '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' > > I am not sure what else is relevant. I am quite lost, any help is greatly > appreciated. > > > _____ > Douglas Denault > http://www.safeport.com > doug@safeport.com > Voice: 301-469-8766 > Fax: 301-469-0601 I guess it's not "core" function and is provided by databases/php5-mysql extension. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 11:32:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D8916A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896DF13C469 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so131313rvb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:32:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=C5rPbgTPGLWxZLdl6Tl+iochx6nqqy18OauuJ2H97nc=; b=gIt9J0xmmAXUFGUhrt7jVKCjPba8VcPLxA6iK51yBTQ32Q7Rtbepc49oI50poWBvIKNLvB4NGbnIX6bTQKrb7n/MIf0rGjuMO+U67L5SBGPKwB7ZLzyNiPje4BCM+eSKcOuK0cV5I0UDUlO/h748bVzP5YH8vTwlChBoN10OuWM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=RS7bJM6iQpGvRbVEBQKP9RQadwzqwUWMYXLTozfp3AvsYbSBMCbdTC8qwzrgEyFZ/8A1etPZf7y7xur2LHOs36vZ8hSZltfwledp2IaoTnhsl9r3ndkvn+xJI2lTXvSFT9rrOBhhsxAjDwfXKEUjJ/mCXNCEMHoOSsmklxbNdIQ= Received: by 10.140.162.21 with SMTP id k21mr3396046rve.1195039548061; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.36.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c19sm1447801rvf.2007.11.14.03.25.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:25:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4E6F4143E7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:55:41 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:55:41 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071114112541.GD570@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1788688982.20071114095051@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1788688982.20071114095051@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: master->backup CARP issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:32:51 -0000 On 09:50:51 Nov 14, Eugene wrote: > Hello freebsd, > > > We have two FreeBSD boxes, each one has 4 CARP interfaces in preempt > mode, without arp balancing. > > Backup without any reason preempts Master and after a while (an hour > or two) it becomes Backup again. > When Backup becomes Master on Master box > net.inet.carp.suppress_preempt: 1, but all interfaces are up and > seemed to work properly. > > > Is there any ways to debug this issue? > > > Additional info: > > #uname -v > FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p7 > > Master: > # grep carp /var/log/messages > Nov 14 01:50:59 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 01:52:30 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 02:43:55 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 02:59:12 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 03:26:13 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 03:26:32 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 04:58:39 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 05:53:27 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 06:01:12 atlas kernel: carp3: MASTER -> BACKUP (more frequent advertisement received) > Nov 14 06:03:36 atlas kernel: carp2: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) > Nov 14 06:03:36 atlas kernel: carp0: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) > Nov 14 06:03:36 atlas kernel: carp1: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) > Nov 14 06:03:38 atlas kernel: carp3: BACKUP -> MASTER (preempting a slower master) > > Master & Backup (in normal state) > #sysctl -a | grep "net.inet.carp." > net.inet.carp.allow: 1 > net.inet.carp.preempt: 1 > net.inet.carp.log: 2 > net.inet.carp.arpbalance: 0 > net.inet.carp.suppress_preempt: 0 > > all NICs - 3Com 3c905C-TX > > Master: > #ifconfig | grep -A2 carp > carp0: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 10 > carp1: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 10 > carp2: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.3.3 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: MASTER vhid 3 advbase 1 advskew 10 > carp3: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.4.3 netmask 0xfffffff8 > carp: MASTER vhid 4 advbase 1 advskew 10 > > Backup > #ifconfig |grep -A2 carp > carp0: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.1.3 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: BACKUP vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 20 > carp1: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 1.1.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: BACKUP vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 20 > carp2: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.3.3 netmask 0xffffff00 > carp: BACKUP vhid 3 advbase 1 advskew 20 > carp3: flags=49 mtu 1500 > inet 10.1.4.3 netmask 0xfffffff8 > carp: BACKUP vhid 4 advbase 1 advskew 20 > > Master: > > #netstat -ni |grep carp > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > carp0 1500 311894 1 5926852 0 0 > carp0 1500 10.1.1 10.1.1.3 42293866 - 263238 - - > carp1 1500 48653 1 5663615 0 0 > carp1 1500 10.1.2 10.1.2.3 153785957 - 0 - - > carp2 1500 48661 1 5663615 107 0 > carp2 1500 10.1.3/24 10.1.3.3 476782 - 0 - - > carp3 1500 48974 1 5663634 1155 0 > carp3 1500 10.1.4.3/ 10.1.4.3 6885622 - 0 - - > > > Backup: > > #netstat -ni |grep carp > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > carp0 1500 35221 0 6437 0 0 > carp0 1500 10.1.1 10.1.1.3 8699 - 0 - - > carp1 1500 35220 0 6438 0 0 > carp1 1500 10.1.2 10.1.2.3 86000 - 0 - - > carp2 1500 35221 0 6437 0 0 > carp2 1500 10.1.3/24 10.1.3.3 0 - 0 - - > carp3 1500 35190 0 6443 23 0 > carp3 1500 10.1.4.3/ 10.1.4.3 958 - 0 - - > > > Thanks in advance! I could be talking nonsense but still... Have you tried adjusting the "advskew" and "advbase" parameters? Another thing. Are the NICs reliable? Have you tried with a different NIC? Looks like you don't have a faulty NIC here. So it could be the other possibility. Thanks. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 11:50:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688AD16A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB3713C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:50:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (d187105.adsl.hansenet.de [80.171.187.105]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwh2-1IsGYv3jPb-00055y; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:37:42 +0100 Message-ID: <473ADE0A.2090201@janh.de> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:37:46 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: 1195028375.473aaf97ea27f@webmail.rawbw.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Jvua6y5yZMSAHCkEUXW4yX06Ym1pPpTpwAmb 2GSVyCKhQasdMEXPhrViHaccdKwvSBUvWO7Vizz2XHhCD/+fS4 2+7bPc8YxZBjOp+IqtqmA== Cc: yuri@rawbw.com Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:50:58 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 02:19:35 am Yuri wrote: > > > All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) > > > > Have you tried kcharselect ? > > Tried it now. When I paste the character to the box in the bottom and press > Enter nothing happens. > I would like to see it's UNICODE number (like &9991;) Have a look at the uft8 editor Yudit (in ports). The interface is kind of weird for a Unix program, but it shows 'Glyph Info' for each character (at least for 2-byte characters) and you can paste them. Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 11:56:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9324216A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@it.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30A9513C48E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@it.dk) Received: (qmail 14325 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 11:31:15 -0000 Received: from 85233228239.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO workp4) (85.233.228.239) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 11:31:15 -0000 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:27:43 +0100 From: Rico Secada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20071114122743.8155882b.coolzone@it.dk> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Extended FreeBSD licens X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:56:00 -0000 Hi. Would it be possible for someone to add some conditions to the FreeBSD licens and then call it his extended FreeBSD licens? I mean would that be legally binding if he provided that licens with software he developed? Best regards. Rico. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 12:32:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCCC16A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E4F13C44B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IsHPv-00026Z-UQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:27 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:27 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:27 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:35:47 +0100 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <20071114122743.8155882b.coolzone@it.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <20071114122743.8155882b.coolzone@it.dk> Sender: news Subject: Re: Extended FreeBSD licens X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:32:48 -0000 Rico Secada wrote: > Hi. > > Would it be possible for someone to add some conditions to the FreeBSD > licens and then call it his extended FreeBSD licens? > > I mean would that be legally binding if he provided that licens with > software he developed? You can modify the license any way you want but you can't use FreeBSD's name on it (but you can use a generic "BSD-like" phrase for it). It will be as legally binding as any other similar open source license. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 13:24:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CC2616A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:24:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gonnabefun@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC51613C46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:23:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gonnabefun@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so147593nfb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:23:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:reply-to:x-priority:message-id:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EMo3AX+4A8YB1Uv9pyvQAv2gZ3I8XdUNYBghOlmvI28=; b=Jhd8pZD1mZb8WDCEOFnNzeSsWmYUdmsCqaRYLETn8FMrycBAvO+I8qDMLsRHmhLuTYV+o12LRwH6iVGmvMscd2tiIqK6rezv0akMdpRU9KxjRAdkvMeLMizUeR4PKRza0oMy1NO1MSE9atI1WtUxmPpKgB5ceJ5ivGXvypXko1g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:reply-to:x-priority:message-id:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pjbVM0pIcGvxhLe8/Gp+uQExgCyY+NTh93JfWWmfV1l55wXe4JfO5VqyneuxkoP8zEIMEVpQTaNJd1B0AG1YVe/Q1+kDlKorP6/t0d7oFMjR7L7wkg71lByF1bw73XpGPVAEbmdPKubvaNiqQIg8CsRAxrJP0xaKgcbx56OZICE= Received: by 10.78.200.20 with SMTP id x20mr7986932huf.1195046637994; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from maes.venta.dp.ua ( [62.64.85.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm153404nfv.2007.11.14.05.23.54 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:23:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:23:49 +0200 From: Eugene X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <366800589.20071114152349@gmail.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071114112541.GD570@saraswathy.susmita.org> References: <1788688982.20071114095051@gmail.com> <20071114112541.GD570@saraswathy.susmita.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: master->backup CARP issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eugene List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:24:00 -0000 Hello Girish, Wednesday, November 14, 2007, 1:25:41 PM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: GV> On 09:50:51 Nov 14, Eugene wrote: >> Hello freebsd, >> >> >> We have two FreeBSD boxes, each one has 4 CARP interfaces in >> preempt >> mode, without arp balancing. >> >> Backup without any reason preempts Master and after a while >> (an hour >> or two) it becomes Backup again. >> When Backup becomes Master on Master box >> net.inet.carp.suppress_preempt: 1, but all interfaces are up and >> seemed to work properly. >> >> >> Is there any ways to debug this issue? >> >> >> Thanks in advance! GV> I could be talking nonsense but still... GV> Have you tried adjusting the "advskew" and "advbase" parameters? GV> Another thing. Are the NICs reliable? GV> Have you tried with a different NIC? GV> Looks like you don't have a faulty NIC here. So it could be the GV> other GV> possibility. No, actually i haven't tried to play with "advskew" and "advbase" parameters, and I'll give it a try, thanks. I'll report results if it helps. Yes, NIC's seemed to be reliable. If I should try a different NIC then which one should I switch, all 4? -- Best regards, Eugene mailto:gonnabefun@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:02:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B93E16A46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93F313C509 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IsJl0-0005Hd-Ka for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:22 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:22 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:05:37 +0100 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <473A8BC4.6000005@charter.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <473A8BC4.6000005@charter.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:37 -0000 icantthinkofone wrote: > Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't > know anything about it and would love to respond. > [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to > set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify > memory cache. > > For that reason MS has the beautiful > MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a better answer if you ask this question on freebsd-hackers@. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:04:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8F616A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com (imo-d22.mx.aol.com [205.188.144.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1B6D13C46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from tonylabarbara@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id n.cc2.1c0953f6 (34923) for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:54:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-me12 (webmail-me12.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.204]) by cia-da03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA038-886b473b0c192b1; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:54:17 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:54:17 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tonylabarbara@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Received: from 190.166.0.252 by webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.204) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:54:17 -0500 Message-Id: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.88.204 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Tkinter Libraries Needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:04:32 -0000 Hi; After a second googling, I discovered the reason I can't install=C2=A0the Py= thon Imaging Library (PIL)=C2=A0appears to be because I need some developmen= t libraries...that I can't find in the ports. I'm running FBSD 5.5. I=C2=B4v= e installed Zope 2.10.5 on top of Python 2.4.2 (not optimal, but it will wor= k, according to the build instructions). I installed Plone 3.0.2 and I get e= rrors when I crank up Zope, all related to a non-existent PIL. So I d/l/d th= e latest PIL, plopped it in my Extensions dir, ran this: python setup.py build_ext -i and got this: running build_ext=20 building '_imagingtk' extension=20 creating build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/Tk=20 cc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O -pipe -D__wchar_t=3Dwchar_t -DTHREAD_STA= CK_SIZE=3D0x100000 -fPIC -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -IlibImaging -I/usr/= local/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -c _imagingtk.c=20= -o build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/_imagingtk.o=20 _imagingtk.c:20:16: tk.h: No such file or directory=20 _imagingtk.c:23: error: syntax error before '*' token=20 _imagingtk.c:31: error: syntax error before "Tcl_Interp"=20 _imagingtk.c: In function `_tkinit':=20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: `Tcl_Interp' undeclared (first use in this function)= =20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once=20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: for each function it appears in.)=20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: `interp' undeclared (first use in this function)=20 _imagingtk.c:45: error: syntax error before ')' token=20 _imagingtk.c:50: error: `app' undeclared (first use in this function)=20 _imagingtk.c: At top level:=20 _imagingtk.c:55: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declar= ation=20 _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init'=20 _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here=20 _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init'=20 _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here=20 _imagingtk.c:55: warning: data definition has no type or storage class=20 _imagingtk.c:57: error: syntax error before '&' token=20 error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1 According to my googling... the setup procedure has determined that your Python has been built with Tkinter, and that Tcl/Tk libraries and include files seem to be available, b= ut the compiler cannot find them, for some unknown reason. have you tried installing the Tcl and Tk development libraries ? (usually tcl-devel and tk-devel) . I cannot find any such animals. Ideas on what to do? TIA, Tony ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http= ://mail.aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:08:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFEA16A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from m.it.okstate.edu (m.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5676213C469 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.it.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by m.it.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEF8veZ083725 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:08:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:08:57 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: /bin/sh Can one Easily Strip Path Name from $0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:08:58 -0000 I am ashamed to admit that I have been writing shell scripts for about 15 years but this problem has me stumped. $0 is the shell variable which contains the script name or at least what name is linked to the script. The string in $0 may or may not contain a path, depending upon how the script was called. It is easy to strip off the path if it is always there #! /bin/sh PROGNAME=`echo $0 |awk 'BEGIN{FS="/"}{print $NF}'` echo $PROGNAME That beautifully isolates the script name but if you happen to call the script without prepending a path name such as when the script is in the execution path, you get an error because there are no slashes in the string so awk gets confused. Is there a better way to always end up with only the script name and nothing else no matter whether the path was prepended or not? Thank you. Martin McCormick From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:10:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0393E16A421 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B041513C481 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IsJsk-0006rr-C7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:10:22 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:10:22 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:10:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:13:35 +0100 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <200711140204.lAE24oTv016136@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Sender: news Subject: Re: What server for a mail server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:10:35 -0000 Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have a project where I should set-up a mail server for approximately > 12000 users, 4000 virtual domains, 15000 messages per day, 700 MB > traffic per day. Depending on how you interpret this information, its load is not that high - this amounts to something like 10 messages per minute. Any modern hardware (e.g. Xeon 51x0+, dual-core and better Opterons) should handle this just fine. > The machine should run Postfix, courrier-imap and a web mail (probably > squirel), Apache 2, spamassassin, clamav, greylist Scanning for spam and viruses will be the biggest bottlenecks. If you want to go the safe route, move these tasks on an additional machine, and use the main machine for everything else. Hardware is relatively cheap nowadays, for example 2 Dells 2950 with a Xeon 5120 and with 4 GB RAM each should do fine, or even one with double everything. Go for the 64-bit kernel since it will enable you to add more RAM. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:13:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7656316A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:13:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DCE13C461 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so188708rvb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:13:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=M2GB/bMZGUFyoUJJgf6Ztv7QQpdESBjssUS9MPhvRDk=; b=YbhLjDtgjNcfhWDObvYuFryKRCRNuMnKaZx9Nm6tyaLjrH4l6r2I6Odqg1HaZMMGR01TlTlgjlwQhl34aO9EK73k5Lg1mi+JGinomaRFmcMhkGfbKiIVrWECHmwFFPI3BGfS/ZQ7R+kFFNilD9AOh8RcYlALytyGXwHKpxkhZv4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Z+q1BlNxXCSgiqOcG+UAS3w2ZYJuGzTXMg/APreEV57Y7BbQ1+H6niXsFi8XCkp30TW3tYuBZXOrarrwPyQoc6f6OouIUWk+R5FGBcIwdKWvNsnhL19ZLhV5u7YFxB7sjS+vfDYktYKbYNtX9ijFbEFRxogO2NqsQwRQIQccJK8= Received: by 10.141.63.20 with SMTP id q20mr3497296rvk.1195053220426; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.36.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm1914947rvb.2007.11.14.07.13.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 4FE6D143E7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:43:30 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:43:30 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071114151330.GE30224@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1788688982.20071114095051@gmail.com> <20071114112541.GD570@saraswathy.susmita.org> <366800589.20071114152349@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <366800589.20071114152349@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: master->backup CARP issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:13:42 -0000 On 15:23:49 Nov 14, Eugene wrote: > No, actually i haven't tried to play with "advskew" and "advbase" > parameters, and I'll give it a try, thanks. I'll report results if it > helps. > > Yes, NIC's seemed to be reliable. > > If I should try a different NIC then which one should I switch, all > 4? I dunno buddy. I would rather you first try to play with the "advskew" and "advbase" parameters. In case that doesn't work then you can go for plan B. There is a very remote chance of a faulty NIC causing trouble here. So let us get to it only when warranted. Best, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:18:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D0416A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:1f1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C4413C45A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAEFHgxN037102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:17:43 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <473B119C.2090105@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:17:48 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tonylabarbara@aol.com References: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:18:02 -0000 tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: > Hi; > After a second googling, I discovered the reason I can't install the Python Imaging Library (PIL) appears to be because I need some development libraries...that I can't find in the ports. I'm running FBSD 5.5. I´ve installed Zope 2.10.5 on top of Python 2.4.2 (not optimal, but it will work, according to the build instructions). I installed Plone 3.0.2 and I get errors when I crank up Zope, all related to a non-existent PIL. So I d/l/d the latest PIL, plopped it in my Extensions dir, ran this: > I'm not knowlegeable on python but /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging looks like what you wanted. (version 1.1.6 which seems to be the latest) If you install it from ports it should pull in what it needs. Vince > python setup.py build_ext -i > > and got this: > > > running build_ext > > building '_imagingtk' extension > > creating build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/Tk > > cc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O -pipe -D__wchar_t=wchar_t -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -fPIC -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -IlibImaging -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -c _imagingtk.c -o build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/_imagingtk.o > > _imagingtk.c:20:16: tk.h: No such file or directory > > _imagingtk.c:23: error: syntax error before '*' token > > _imagingtk.c:31: error: syntax error before "Tcl_Interp" > > _imagingtk.c: In function `_tkinit': > > _imagingtk.c:37: error: `Tcl_Interp' undeclared (first use in this function) > > _imagingtk.c:37: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > _imagingtk.c:37: error: for each function it appears in.) > > _imagingtk.c:37: error: `interp' undeclared (first use in this function) > > _imagingtk.c:45: error: syntax error before ')' token > > _imagingtk.c:50: error: `app' undeclared (first use in this function) > > _imagingtk.c: At top level: > > _imagingtk.c:55: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration > > _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init' > > _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here > > _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init' > > _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here > > _imagingtk.c:55: warning: data definition has no type or storage class > > _imagingtk.c:57: error: syntax error before '&' token > > error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1 > > According to my googling... > > > > the setup procedure has determined that your Python has been built with > > Tkinter, and that Tcl/Tk libraries and include files seem to be available, but > > the compiler cannot find them, for some unknown reason. > > have you tried installing the Tcl and Tk development libraries ? (usually > > tcl-devel and tk-devel) > > . > > > I cannot find any such animals. Ideas on what to do? > TIA, > Tony > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:19:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECDE16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BB713C45A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:64662 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsK0b-0007Ac-7z for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:18:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 38102 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 16:18:26 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2007 16:18:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 51971 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Nov 2007 16:18:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:18:26 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Martin McCormick Message-ID: <20071114151826.GA51943@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Martin McCormick , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1IsK0b-0007Ac-7z. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1IsK0b-0007Ac-7z 63a10f18f9db9a26cdb3a946ad00b9fa Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh Can one Easily Strip Path Name from $0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:19:14 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 09:08:57AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: > I am ashamed to admit that I have been writing shell > scripts for about 15 years but this problem has me stumped. $0 > is the shell variable which contains the script name or at least > what name is linked to the script. The string in $0 may or may > not contain a path, depending upon how the script was called. It > is easy to strip off the path if it is always there > > #! /bin/sh > PROGNAME=`echo $0 |awk 'BEGIN{FS="/"}{print $NF}'` > echo $PROGNAME > > That beautifully isolates the script name but if you happen to > call the script without prepending a path name such as when the > script is in the execution path, you get an error because there > are no slashes in the string so awk gets confused. > > Is there a better way to always end up with only the script name and > nothing else no matter whether the path was prepended or not? > The basename(1) command seems to do what you want. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:19:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093116A49A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB0013C468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:19:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCADEBC84; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:19:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:19:16 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Martin McCormick Message-Id: <20071114101916.c661f4ac.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> References: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh Can one Easily Strip Path Name from $0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:19:18 -0000 In response to Martin McCormick : > I am ashamed to admit that I have been writing shell > scripts for about 15 years but this problem has me stumped. $0 > is the shell variable which contains the script name or at least > what name is linked to the script. The string in $0 may or may > not contain a path, depending upon how the script was called. It > is easy to strip off the path if it is always there > > #! /bin/sh > PROGNAME=`echo $0 |awk 'BEGIN{FS="/"}{print $NF}'` > echo $PROGNAME > > That beautifully isolates the script name but if you happen to > call the script without prepending a path name such as when the > script is in the execution path, you get an error because there > are no slashes in the string so awk gets confused. > > Is there a better way to always end up with only the script name and > nothing else no matter whether the path was prepended or not? basename $0 -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:20:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D437A16A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:1f1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5842B13C4BB for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:20:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAEFKZOD037153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:20:36 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <473B1248.3000502@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:20:40 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McCormick References: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> In-Reply-To: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh Can one Easily Strip Path Name from $0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:20:52 -0000 Martin McCormick wrote: > I am ashamed to admit that I have been writing shell > scripts for about 15 years but this problem has me stumped. $0 > is the shell variable which contains the script name or at least > what name is linked to the script. The string in $0 may or may > not contain a path, depending upon how the script was called. It > is easy to strip off the path if it is always there > > #! /bin/sh > PROGNAME=`echo $0 |awk 'BEGIN{FS="/"}{print $NF}'` > echo $PROGNAME > > That beautifully isolates the script name but if you happen to > call the script without prepending a path name such as when the > script is in the execution path, you get an error because there > are no slashes in the string so awk gets confused. > > Is there a better way to always end up with only the script name and > nothing else no matter whether the path was prepended or not? > basename should do it. > Thank you. > > Martin McCormick > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:41:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A92816A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from lon-mail-3.gradwell.net (lon-mail-3.gradwell.net [193.111.201.127]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D112F13C458 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:41:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 81-6-241-84.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk ([81.6.241.84] helo=[192.168.1.6] country=GB ident=bds&pop3#waywood^co^uk) by lon-mail-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.262) id 473b0d82.34ac.42 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:00:18 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <473B0D70.7020307@waywood.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:00:00 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Dell PE4600 RAID5 server failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:41:50 -0000 I suspect I already know the answer to this, which is that the trouble I am having is nothing to do with the OS at all, but I have to ask, because I am otherwise up against a total brick wall! I bought a second-hand Dell Poweredge 4600 and installed FreeBSD 6.2 earlier this year. I had it set up with RAID5 using its PERC3/DC controller, with 7 x 73GB disks (+ 1 hot spare). So far so good, and it worked faultlessly as a Samba server for several months. At the beginning of October, it went down, reporting a mismatch between the configuration on the NVRAM and the disks. With help from Dell support, I managed to recreate the RAID array and it worked again for a month. In early November it happened again, and has kept happening since. At one point it appeared that the backplane was faulty, so I replaced that, but I cannot keep the server up for more than a day or so without this 'mismatch' poblem. What about diagnostics on the hardware you may ask? I have run all the diagnostic tools that Dell can supply - several times - and the server declares itself to be totally fault-free. My specific questions therefore: Is there any way at all that FreeBSD could be invloved with this problem? (I did notice for example that the Dell PERC3/DC controller was not in the list of supported hardware - but then again, why did it work for several months?) Can I use FreeBSD to tell me anything about the fault that Dell's diagnostic tools haven't found? (I do hope someone might be able to help - Dell are trying to get me to switch to a 'supported' OS!) Thanks Barnaby Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:52:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4900716A421 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D832013C465 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:52:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEFpvv7088275; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:51:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071114094712.024bfe38@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:51:41 -0600 To: Barnaby Scott , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <473B0D70.7020307@waywood.co.uk> References: <473B0D70.7020307@waywood.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Dell PE4600 RAID5 server failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:52:08 -0000 At 09:00 AM 11/14/2007, Barnaby Scott wrote: >I suspect I already know the answer to this, which is that the trouble I >am having is nothing to do with the OS at all, but I have to ask, because >I am otherwise up against a total brick wall! > >I bought a second-hand Dell Poweredge 4600 and installed FreeBSD 6.2 >earlier this year. I had it set up with RAID5 using its PERC3/DC >controller, with 7 x 73GB disks (+ 1 hot spare). So far so good, and it >worked faultlessly as a Samba server for several months. > >At the beginning of October, it went down, reporting a mismatch between >the configuration on the NVRAM and the disks. With help from Dell support, >I managed to recreate the RAID array and it worked again for a month. > >In early November it happened again, and has kept happening since. At one >point it appeared that the backplane was faulty, so I replaced that, but I >cannot keep the server up for more than a day or so without this >'mismatch' poblem. > >What about diagnostics on the hardware you may ask? I have run all the >diagnostic tools that Dell can supply - several times - and the server >declares itself to be totally fault-free. > >My specific questions therefore: > >Is there any way at all that FreeBSD could be invloved with this problem? >(I did notice for example that the Dell PERC3/DC controller was not in the >list of supported hardware - but then again, why did it work for several >months?) > >Can I use FreeBSD to tell me anything about the fault that Dell's >diagnostic tools haven't found? > >(I do hope someone might be able to help - Dell are trying to get me to >switch to a 'supported' OS!) > > >Thanks > >Barnaby Scott It doesn't sound like any OS issue as you set up the RAID outside the OS. It may be a bad drive or drive(s). Most RAID drives have RAID information written to the drives, and if this becomes unreadable you will have RAID faults. Another likely culprit is heat. Overheating drives often fail. Are you sure the temperatures in the drive enclosure is OK? If you can, run diagnostics on the drives, this usually requires running these with the drives taken out of the RAID array though. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:53:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD3816A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from imo-m21.mx.aol.com (imo-m21.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBD713C4E5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from tonylabarbara@aol.com by imo-m21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id w.d4b.17abd94b (48336); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-me12 (webmail-me12.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.204]) by ciaaol-d01.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD016-bcd0473b19ff2c7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:53:36 -0400 References: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> <473B119C.2090105@unsane.co.uk> To: jhary@unsane.co.uk Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:53:36 -0500 In-Reply-To: <473B119C.2090105@unsane.co.uk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 190.166.0.252 by webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.204) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:53:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tonylabarbara@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Message-Id: <8C9F4EDA68542DE-918-2F40@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.88.204 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:53:58 -0000 Right. I tried that a while back and forgot I had. This is what I get: server726# cd /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging server726# make install clean =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0 Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5 =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/py= thon2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/py= thon - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9=20= - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetyp= e.9 - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Generating temporary packing list =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0 Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already in= stalled (py23-imaging-1.1.5) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and instal= l this port again =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If you really wish to overwrite the old port=20= of graphics/py-imaging =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 without deleting it first, set the variable "= FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 in your environment or the "make install" com= mand line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. server726# make deinstall =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0 Deinstalling for graphics/py-imaging server726# make reinstall =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0 Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5 =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/py= thon2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/py= thon2.4 - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9=20= - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetyp= e.9 - found =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Generating temporary packing list =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0 Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed =3D=3D=3D>=C2=A0=C2=A0 An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already in= stalled (py23-imaging-1.1.5) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and instal= l this port again =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If you really wish to overwrite the old port=20= of graphics/py-imaging =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 without deleting it first, set the variable "= FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 in your environment or the "make install" com= mand line. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. Ideas? TIA, Tony /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging -----Original Message----- From: Vince To: tonylabarbara@aol.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:17 am Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: Hi; After a second googling, I discovered the reason I can't install the Python= =20 maging Library (PIL) appears to be because I need some development=20 ibraries...that I can't find in the ports. I'm running FBSD 5.5. I=C2=B4ve i= nstalled=20 ope 2.10.5 on top of Python 2.4.2 (not optimal, but it will work, according=20= to=20 he build instructions). I installed Plone 3.0.2 and I get errors when I cran= k=20 p Zope, all related to a non-existent PIL. So I d/l/d the latest PIL, ploppe= d=20 t in my Extensions dir, ran this: =20 'm not knowlegeable on python but usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging looks like what you wanted. (version .1.6 which seems to be the latest) If you install it from ports it hould pull in what it needs. Vince > python setup.py build_ext -i =20 and got this: =20 =20 running build_ext=20 =20 building '_imagingtk' extension=20 =20 creating build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/Tk=20 =20 cc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O -pipe -D__wchar_t=3Dwchar_t=20 DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=3D0x100000 -fPIC -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -IlibImag= ing=20 I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -c=20 imagingtk.c -o build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/_imagingtk.o=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:20:16: tk.h: No such file or directory=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:23: error: syntax error before '*' token=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:31: error: syntax error before "Tcl_Interp"=20 =20 _imagingtk.c: In function `_tkinit':=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: `Tcl_Interp' undeclared (first use in this function= )=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: for each function it appears in.)=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:37: error: `interp' undeclared (first use in this function)=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:45: error: syntax error before ')' token=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:50: error: `app' undeclared (first use in this function)=20 =20 _imagingtk.c: At top level:=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:55: warning: parameter names (without types) in function=20 eclaration=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init'=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init'=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:55: warning: data definition has no type or storage class=20 =20 _imagingtk.c:57: error: syntax error before '&' token=20 =20 error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1 =20 According to my googling... =20 =20 =20 the setup procedure has determined that your Python has been built with =20 Tkinter, and that Tcl/Tk libraries and include files seem to be available,=20= but =20 the compiler cannot find them, for some unknown reason. =20 have you tried installing the Tcl and Tk development libraries ? (usually =20 tcl-devel and tk-devel) =20 . =20 =20 I cannot find any such animals. Ideas on what to do? TIA, Tony =20 =20 =20 =20 ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -=20 ttp://mail.aol.com _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http= ://mail.aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:55:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229C016A473 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from m.it.okstate.edu (m.it.okstate.edu [139.78.2.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09DA13C508 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Received: from dc.cis.okstate.edu (localhost.it.okstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) by m.it.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEFtbV3084328 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu) Message-Id: <200711141555.lAEFtbV3084328@m.it.okstate.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <84326.1195055737.1@dc.cis.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:55:37 -0600 From: Martin McCormick Subject: Re: /bin/sh Can one Easily Strip Path Name from $0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:55:39 -0000 The basename utility does the trick. Thanks to all of you who answered. Martin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:56:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A10B16A475 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:56:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [209.31.154.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EE513C458 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lAEFuAgG054273; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:10 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: Yuri Pankov In-Reply-To: <20071114095814.GA67269@darklight.org.ru> Message-ID: <20071114104628.L99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> References: <20071114013236.U99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> <20071114095814.GA67269@darklight.org.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (pemaquid.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:56:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PHP can not find core function X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:56:17 -0000 On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Yuri Pankov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:40:08AM -0500, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> I am trying to evaluate two php billing programs, One gives no errors, >> syntax or otherwise, the other fails to find the mysql_real_escape_string >> function. >> >> I the later case I assume I have a path problem. It seems that something in >> the code of the first program is turning off errors. Both programs work on >> FreeBSD 4.11 and php4. The failing system is FreeBSD 6.2 and php5. >> >> My setup: >> >> php.conf >> PHP_VER=5 >> PHP_VERSION=5.2.4 >> PHP_SAPI=cli cgi mod >> >> php.ini is php.ini-recommended with the following changes: >> >> display_errors = On >> display_startup_errors = On >> ignore_repeated_source = On >> track_errors = On >> include_path = ".:/php/includes" >> >> The following ports are installed: >> >> php5-5.2.4_1 PHP Scripting Language >> php5-session-5.2.4_1 The session shared extension for php >> php5-xml-5.2.4_1 The xml shared extension for php >> >> phpinfo() shows the configure command as: >> >> './configure' '--with-layout=GNU' >> '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php' '--disable-all' >> '--enable-libxml' '--with-libxml-dir=/usr/local' '--enable-reflection' >> '--program-prefix=' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs' '--with-regex=php' >> '--with-zend-vm=CALL' '--disable-ipv6' '--prefix=/usr/local' >> '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' >> >> I am not sure what else is relevant. I am quite lost, any help is greatly >> appreciated. >> >> >> _____ >> Douglas Denault >> http://www.safeport.com >> doug@safeport.com >> Voice: 301-469-8766 >> Fax: 301-469-0601 > > I guess it's not "core" function and is provided by databases/php5-mysql > extension. > > > Yuri I will try that Yuri - thanks. I based my assumption of the "coreness" of the function based on (my understanding of) php,net description when I looked up the function. Is there documentation noting which functions are in the various extensions? I had previously installed the mysql extension which did not work. _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 15:59:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D725C16A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE0413C46A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:59:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.37] (a89-182-174-138.net-htp.de [89.182.174.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9503FA44529 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:53:54 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:00:47 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200711141700.47742.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: RT256x PCMCIA card under 7.0-BETA2 (repost from freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, to get a broader audience) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:59:58 -0000 Hi all! I just recently bought a RT2561C based (at least I think so) wireless card, which is also happily recognized by the ral-driver: ral0: mem 0x88000000-0x88007fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on cardbus0 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT2527 ral0: Ethernet address: 00:80:5a:51:23:53 ral0: [ITHREAD] As soon as I plug in the card and the netif script starts wpa_supplicant and dhclient, the laptop this is plugged into receives an interrupt storm on cbb0 (having 80% interrupt time), which leads to a noticeable slowdown of the whole system: phoenix# vmstat -i interrupt total rate irq1: atkbd0 9773 3 irq10: acpi0 729 0 irq14: ata0 17173 6 irq15: ata1 64 0 irq17: cbb0 cbb1+ 10408993 4217 irq18: pcm0 5753 2 irq19: sis0+ 33302 13 irq20: ohci0 207 0 irq21: ohci1 44261 17 irq23: ehci0 1 0 cpu0: timer 4926468 1996 Total 15446724 6258 phoenix# This snapshot was taken some time after I killed wpa_supplicant (when it had been up for about 10 seconds). When I manually start wpa_supplicant (with no stations in reach), there is no interrupt storm, but just normal activity with around 7-10 interrupts on cbb0 per second. I can also manually scan using the card (but ifconfig scan never finishes, but will show the stations in reach when doing an ifconfig list scan after ^C-ing the ifconfig scan), but cannot attach to any WPA access point in scanning-reach with wpa_supplicant (the only type of stations I have access to; I cannot test with WEP at the moment); enabling net.wlan.debug and net.wlan.0.debug also shows the scan taking place and the keys being set to the card, but nothing else from there. The card itself is a "Conceptronic C54RC Version 2.0", which I guess explains the difference (in hardware) between the note in the manpage of ral(4) for this adapter and the actual hardware type it finds: Conceptronic C54RC RT2560 CardBus Anyway, doing a pciconv -lv leads to a different result than the actual driver reports, which is compatible with the hardware specification in the manpage: ral0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x3c231948 chip=0x03021814 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ralink Technology, Corp' device = 'RT2525 2.4GHz transceiver + RT2560 MAC/BBP wireless a/b' class = network The kernel all of this runs under is a (slightly) modified GENERIC 7.0-BETA2 (from yesterday evening CET; an older 7.0-BETA2 didn't exhibit the interrupt storm behaviour, but was similar for the rest), with SMP disabled and SCHED_ULE instead of SCHED_4BSD. As debug.ral isn't available under the 7.0 ral-driver (which is referenced in the FreeBSD setup page http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/ral/ral-freebsd.html), I have no immediately obvious means of debugging what's actually happening when the interrupt storm takes place, and why the card won't attach to the AP even though the same wpa_supplicant config works using an ndis-wrapped driver for a different PCMCIA-card (Broadcom-based). Thanks for any hint you can give me! -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:01:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146E316A421 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [209.31.154.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F9813C4D1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:01:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lAEG1KMa054557; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:01:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:01:20 -0500 (EST) From: doug@safeport.com To: Yuri Pankov In-Reply-To: <20071114095814.GA67269@darklight.org.ru> Message-ID: <20071114110007.L99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> References: <20071114013236.U99596@pemaquid.safeport.com> <20071114095814.GA67269@darklight.org.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (pemaquid.safeport.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:01:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PHP can not find core function X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:01:24 -0000 On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Yuri Pankov wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:40:08AM -0500, doug@safeport.com wrote: >> I am trying to evaluate two php billing programs, One gives no errors, >> syntax or otherwise, the other fails to find the mysql_real_escape_string >> function. >> >> I the later case I assume I have a path problem. It seems that something in >> the code of the first program is turning off errors. Both programs work on >> FreeBSD 4.11 and php4. The failing system is FreeBSD 6.2 and php5. >> >> My setup: >> >> php.conf >> PHP_VER=5 >> PHP_VERSION=5.2.4 >> PHP_SAPI=cli cgi mod >> >> php.ini is php.ini-recommended with the following changes: >> >> display_errors = On >> display_startup_errors = On >> ignore_repeated_source = On >> track_errors = On >> include_path = ".:/php/includes" >> >> The following ports are installed: >> >> php5-5.2.4_1 PHP Scripting Language >> php5-session-5.2.4_1 The session shared extension for php >> php5-xml-5.2.4_1 The xml shared extension for php >> >> phpinfo() shows the configure command as: >> >> './configure' '--with-layout=GNU' >> '--with-config-file-scan-dir=/usr/local/etc/php' '--disable-all' >> '--enable-libxml' '--with-libxml-dir=/usr/local' '--enable-reflection' >> '--program-prefix=' '--with-apxs=/usr/local/sbin/apxs' '--with-regex=php' >> '--with-zend-vm=CALL' '--disable-ipv6' '--prefix=/usr/local' >> '--mandir=/usr/local/man' '--infodir=/usr/local/info/' >> >> I am not sure what else is relevant. I am quite lost, any help is greatly >> appreciated. >> >> >> _____ >> Douglas Denault >> http://www.safeport.com >> doug@safeport.com >> Voice: 301-469-8766 >> Fax: 301-469-0601 > > I guess it's not "core" function and is provided by databases/php5-mysql > extension. > > > Yuri ah - I mispoke; I had installed mysql on php4 getting the same error so I did not install in on php5 doing that now _____ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com doug@safeport.com Voice: 301-469-8766 Fax: 301-469-0601 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:04:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDF016A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:04:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from mtai02.charter.net (mtai02.charter.net [209.225.8.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F8213C481 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from aarprv06.charter.net ([10.20.200.76]) by mtai02.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.03.00 201-2186-126-20070710) with ESMTP id <20071114160438.SOXL28.mtai02.charter.net@aarprv06.charter.net> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:38 -0500 Received: from robs-laptop.com ([71.85.241.27]) by aarprv06.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071114160438.JVFM14098.aarprv06.charter.net@robs-laptop.com> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:04:38 -0500 Message-ID: <473B1C95.70203@charter.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:04:37 -0600 From: icantthinkofone User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070914) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <473A8BC4.6000005@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Subject: Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:04:39 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > icantthinkofone wrote: > >> Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't >> know anything about it and would love to respond. >> [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to >> set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify >> memory cache. >> >> For that reason MS has the beautiful >> MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] >> > > Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a > better answer if you ask this question on freebsd-hackers@. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > That's what I thought but not sure if they were equivalent. I'm not signed up over there but I will now. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:06:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C3116A476 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C1213C4CC for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:06:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s42so152346rnb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:06:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=rLd+YUpwmu6I2AjSbieFzg1RKUbTXTflS3c87ACjg0s=; b=UdN20S83O+KYFAPVm/X5CsVEc0YYNMFQ6u5BcvEPRk6020DTu/XHraJI552xRgvraw8DL3EPQ6KUzbhXcOSkiLDZn5MQni7CYol4khQ8svoLXxODmafq7G4GbzypOe6mofsJTONEx+1FQo2B4Hc1IdhAeDHe/wVsftLMTIKJpTE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rKF4Px5q7imXG22kJO9S3siVNhAnRTAzEq+KaOh/2sXdyQgDgVPxQ6vh4as+0Czd7xYhiOmd0HZCiKGedvHgxiONxiKATNPlF8rM5KJN61uPTZpTahjHvM0S2EWh8wAkS1QqxoVjJtOhOU8KUU24kHl2i6Dnhd2fPi0+Q5hpLC4= Received: by 10.142.78.10 with SMTP id a10mr481205wfb.1195054856626; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.164.20 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:40:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3eca10930711140740gb8c2b88v6a13795c41e3eafb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:40:56 -0500 From: "Matt Fioravante" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Jails and multicore boxes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:06:04 -0000 I've heard that things like freebsd jails or solaris zones can still be insecure on multicore boxes because a race condition can occur. I don't know more details about it other than that. Is this true now on freebsd? Also, I have a home server which I'm considering running apache, bind, dhcp, and possiblty opening ports for some other services. Is it overkill to run all of these each in their own jail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:19:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7224416A598 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C4013C517 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from freebsdgr.dyndns.org (athedsl-314702.home.otenet.gr [85.72.84.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lAEGJ1O5021822 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:19:02 +0200 Message-ID: <473B1FF4.4010906@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:19:00 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> <473B119C.2090105@unsane.co.uk> <8C9F4EDA68542DE-918-2F40@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C9F4EDA68542DE-918-2F40@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:19:05 -0000 tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: > Right. I tried that a while back and forgot I had. This is what I get: > > > > server726# cd /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging > server726# make install clean > ===> Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5 > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed > ===> An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already installed (py23-imaging-1.1.5) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/py-imaging > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > server726# make deinstall > ===> Deinstalling for graphics/py-imaging > server726# make reinstall > ===> Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5 > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.4 - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed > ===> An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already installed (py23-imaging-1.1.5) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/py-imaging > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > > Ideas? > TIA, > Tony > > > > /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging > > > > Maybe a long shot, but I would try something in the line of: pkg_delete -f "py23-imaging-1.1.5*" or try pkg_info | grep py23-imaging to get the exact name and use it in pkg_delete the try installing the new port. Also make sure you have not missed any steps mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING I've never had python23, but there are specific steps to follow upgrading e.g 2.4 to 2.5 Make sure you have not omitted any of the relevant steps for your version. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:21:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27CC616A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB60613C508 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.37] (a89-182-174-138.net-htp.de [89.182.174.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12ACA44529 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:15:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:22:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <473A8BC4.6000005@charter.net> <473B1C95.70203@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <473B1C95.70203@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141722.07732.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:21:19 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 17:04:37 schrieb icantthinkofone: > Ivan Voras wrote: > > icantthinkofone wrote: > >> Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't > >> know anything about it and would love to respond. > >> [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to > >> set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify > >> memory cache. > >> > >> For that reason MS has the beautiful > >> MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] > > > > Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a > > better answer if you ask this question on freebsd-hackers@. > > That's what I thought but not sure if they were equivalent. > I'm not signed up over there but I will now. Thanks. That's not entirely true. MmAllocateContiguousMemorySpecifyCache does something that's currently not (easily) possible with FreeBSD, namely set up an MTRR entry (i.e. a specific caching state) specifically for the portion of contiguous memory being allocated (normally, the driver wants to set the memory to uncached if using this call). This is something that the NVIDIA driver development guys have wanted to have for a long time (for performance reasons) in the FreeBSD kernel, and there's someone developing a patch to implement this (AFAICT from reading some websites), but it doesn't seem like it's finished so far. Read up on the NVIDIA requirements to develop an accelerated graphics driver on AMD64 to get more details on this (there's a "workaround" on i386, but that depends on the specific system's pre-setup MTRR records from the BIOS; this one of the reasons there's an accelerated graphics driver for i386 and not for AMD64). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:24:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B2F16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:1f1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C5913C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Received: from prawn.unsane.co.uk (150.117-84-212.staticip.namesco.net [212.84.117.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lAEGNiWr037999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:23:45 GMT (envelope-from jhary@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <473B2115.60909@unsane.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:23:49 +0000 From: Vince User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tonylabarbara@aol.com References: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> <473B119C.2090105@unsane.co.uk> <8C9F4EDA68542DE-918-2F40@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C9F4EDA68542DE-918-2F40@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:24:02 -0000 Hmm you could try pkg_delete py24-imaging-1.1.5 and see if that works better (may need -f) I tend to use portupgrade though. Vince tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: > Right. I tried that a while back and forgot I had. This is what I get: > > server726# cd /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging > server726# make install clean > ===> Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5 > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed > ===> An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already installed > (py23-imaging-1.1.5) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/py-imaging > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > server726# make deinstall > ===> Deinstalling for graphics/py-imaging > server726# make reinstall > ===> Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5 > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: > /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.4 - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found > ===> Generating temporary packing list > ===> Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed > ===> An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already installed > (py23-imaging-1.1.5) > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly. > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/py-imaging > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER" > in your environment or the "make install" command line. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > *** Error code 1 > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging. > > Ideas? > TIA, > Tony > > /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince > To: tonylabarbara@aol.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:17 am > Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed > > tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote: >> Hi; >> After a second googling, I discovered the reason I can't install the Python > Imaging Library (PIL) appears to be because I need some development > libraries...that I can't find in the ports. I'm running FBSD 5.5. I´ve installed > Zope 2.10.5 on top of Python 2.4.2 (not optimal, but it will work, according to > the build instructions). I installed Plone 3.0.2 and I get errors when I crank > up Zope, all related to a non-existent PIL. So I d/l/d the latest PIL, plopped > it in my Extensions dir, ran this: >> > I'm not knowlegeable on python but > /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging looks like what you wanted. (version > 1.1.6 which seems to be the latest) If you install it from ports it > should pull in what it needs. > > Vince > >> python setup.py build_ext -i >> >> and got this: >> >> >> running build_ext >> >> building '_imagingtk' extension >> >> creating build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/Tk >> >> cc -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -O -pipe -D__wchar_t=wchar_t > -DTHREAD_STACK_SIZE=0x100000 -fPIC -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -IlibImaging > -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/local/include/python2.4 -c > _imagingtk.c -o build/temp.freebsd-5.5-RELEASE-i386-2.4/_imagingtk.o >> >> _imagingtk.c:20:16: tk.h: No such file or directory >> >> _imagingtk.c:23: error: syntax error before '*' token >> >> _imagingtk.c:31: error: syntax error before "Tcl_Interp" >> >> _imagingtk.c: In function `_tkinit': >> >> _imagingtk.c:37: error: `Tcl_Interp' undeclared (first use in this function) >> >> _imagingtk.c:37: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once >> >> _imagingtk.c:37: error: for each function it appears in.) >> >> _imagingtk.c:37: error: `interp' undeclared (first use in this function) >> >> _imagingtk.c:45: error: syntax error before ')' token >> >> _imagingtk.c:50: error: `app' undeclared (first use in this function) >> >> _imagingtk.c: At top level: >> >> _imagingtk.c:55: warning: parameter names (without types) in function > declaration >> >> _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init' >> >> _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here >> >> _imagingtk.c:55: error: conflicting types for 'TkImaging_Init' >> >> _imagingtk.c:23: error: previous declaration of 'TkImaging_Init' was here >> >> _imagingtk.c:55: warning: data definition has no type or storage class >> >> _imagingtk.c:57: error: syntax error before '&' token >> >> error: command 'cc' failed with exit status 1 >> >> According to my googling... >> >> >> >> the setup procedure has determined that your Python has been built with >> >> Tkinter, and that Tcl/Tk libraries and include files seem to be available, but >> >> the compiler cannot find them, for some unknown reason. >> >> have you tried installing the Tcl and Tk development libraries ? (usually >> >> tcl-devel and tk-devel) >> >> . >> >> >> I cannot find any such animals. Ideas on what to do? >> TIA, >> Tony >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org " > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail > ! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:27:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E8916A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:27:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E20013C448 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A65D48628 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:34:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A4CB83C for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:27:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:27:15 +0000 References: <9726ff48cfd0898fc1183cb14ec3bae6@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <9726ff48cfd0898fc1183cb14ec3bae6@prodigy.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141627.15788.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: Postfix, dns, and hosts.allow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:27:21 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 05:01:58 jekillen wrote: > Hello: > I have a question about Postfix and > hosts.allow: > Sendmail and exim are mentioned in the > file and I assume that Sendmail would > refer to Postfix sendmail as well as Sendmail. > But Since Postfix runs smtp.d, how would I > do Postfix in hosts.allow? I believe you would refer to it as "smtp" if that is what you have in /etc/services > > I also have a question about how postfix > would resolve names outside of the local > domain, Does it use resolve.conf, hosts.equiv, > nsswitch or does it need a local name server. The nameserver does not need to be local. It can use the ones in resolv.conf Make sure you use numeric hosts in resolv.conf I know that is obvious but I have seen people put textual hostnames in the file and then wonder why it does not work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 16:32:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006AB16A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E9613C48E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:32:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (avior.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEGWPT5006227 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:32:25 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from 141.sub-70-216-167.myvzw.com (141.sub-70-216-167.myvzw.com [70.216.167.141]) by webmailm.dfwlp.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:32:25 -0600 Message-ID: <20071114103225.q7bueyig2s4g400o@webmailm.dfwlp.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:32:25 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mobile Internet Messaging Program (MIMP) H3 (1.0.2) / FreeBSD-6.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: jails in 6.3 and 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:32:39 -0000 I was reading a while back that the jails tcp system was getting an overhaul, possibly in the 7.0 release. I don't remember all the particulars, but things along the lines to make jails function even more like a real (independant) system. I believe one of the improvments might have been a separate virtual interface, thus allowing he jail to have its own pf configuration. I've not seen anything else on this topic, so I was wondering if anyone might know if that's going to make in to 7 (and possibly backported to 6.3)? -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This message was sent using MIMP, the Mobile Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:04:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D1D16A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@inf.ed.ac.uk) Received: from nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.216.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBA713C48E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from richard@inf.ed.ac.uk) Received: from macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk (macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk [129.215.164.231]) by nutty.inf.ed.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEH4iYQ025590; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:44 GMT Received: by macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk (Postfix, from userid 26013) id 0B8D9288BDF; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Tobin To: Yuri , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Yuri's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:17:03 -0800 Organization: just say no X-Mailer: Ream 5.1.51-richard-mac Message-Id: <20071114170444.0B8D9288BDF@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:44 +0000 (GMT) Cc: yuri@tsoft.com Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:04:48 -0000 > What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese character? > I use KDE. > > All programs just show the character itself when I paste it :-) Try http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/utf-8.html Paste it into the box and select "Interpret as Character". -- Richard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:19:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC40916A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D67313C447 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from c83-249-53-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.249.53.135]:60390) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsLtY-0000xN-7H for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:19:20 +0100 From: Peo Nilsson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1194368058.68992.3.camel@zeus.se> References: <1194271235.19142.4.camel@zeus.se> <44sl3jjsw2.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <1194368058.68992.3.camel@zeus.se> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-B4ZABE3ECCnZ0m9pjF2u" Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:18:13 +0100 Message-Id: <1195060693.1610.3.camel@zeus.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Originating-IP: 83.249.53.135 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1IsLtY-0000xN-7H. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1IsLtY-0000xN-7H 616cede930cd902e1cd3e66add4b9d68 Subject: Re: /usr/bin/whatis replaced by a script (correct?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:19:33 -0000 --=-B4ZABE3ECCnZ0m9pjF2u Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:54 +0100, Peo Nilsson wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 22:31 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > Peo Nilsson writes: > >=20 > > > When running rkhunter 1.3.0 I get those warnings: > > > > > > ... > > > /usr/bin/whatis' has been replaced by a script: /usr/bin/whatis: > > > Bourne shell script text executable >=20 > > They aren't replaced. They are all *supposed* to be scripts. >=20 > Thanks for the info. >=20 > After knowing this, I edited rkhunter.conf like this: > RTKT_FILE_WHITELIST=3D"/usr/bin/whatis /usr/sbin/adduser /usr/local/bin/G= ET /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb" >=20 > When running 'rkhunter -c' I still get the same warnings as before... > What am I missing? Solved, but many thanks anyway. I should have set SCRIPTWHITELIST insteed of RTKT_FILE_WHITELIST, wich I did first. --=20 /Peo ---------------------------------------------- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered -=20 ---------------------------------------------- --=-B4ZABE3ECCnZ0m9pjF2u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHOy3QgWSfflYlIbwRAiyQAJ0UEZyj3/pDbc/IVpD2goy8pEI4RwCfSvg/ oLSNSGENUpmQqQIuvfjSkRA= =3a7M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-B4ZABE3ECCnZ0m9pjF2u-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:24:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EB416A46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from office@ourweb.net) Received: from ourweb.net (joey.ourweb.net [216.236.255.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB3F13C45A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:24:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from office@ourweb.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [216.236.255.29]) by ourweb.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 24424-1760316 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:14:03 -0500 Message-ID: <473B2F54.7030208@ourweb.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:36 -0500 From: Bill Banks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <47349D10.20709@ourweb.net> <20071109193001.Y20961@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071109193001.Y20961@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: wpa@ourweb.net Subject: Re: shell programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:24:38 -0000 What am I doing wrough here: #!/bin/sh $DAYN='/bin/date +%a' + "_master.sql" mysqldump master > $DAYN Wojciech Puchar wrote: > dayoftheweek=`date +%w` > > > > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Bill Banks wrote: > >> I'm writing a backup script. I need to get the day of the week into >> a variable. How can I do it? >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------- >> Bill Banks 508-829-2005 >> Wachusett Programming Ourweb >> http://www.ourweb.net >> http://www.ourwebtemplates.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > > -- ----------------------------------------------- Bill Banks 508-829-2005 Wachusett Programming Ourweb http://www.ourweb.net http://www.ourwebtemplates.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:30:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0170716A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C264213C48A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D91EBC84; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:30:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:30:10 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Bill Banks Message-Id: <20071114123010.f6ab79cf.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <473B2F54.7030208@ourweb.net> References: <47349D10.20709@ourweb.net> <20071109193001.Y20961@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473B2F54.7030208@ourweb.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.4 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: shell programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:30:13 -0000 In response to Bill Banks : > What am I doing wrough here: > > #!/bin/sh > $DAYN='/bin/date +%a' + "_master.sql" > mysqldump master > $DAYN Those look to be single quotes and not backquotes. (backquote is the upper left key on most keyboards) > > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > dayoftheweek=`date +%w` > > > > > > > > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Bill Banks wrote: > > > >> I'm writing a backup script. I need to get the day of the week into > >> a variable. How can I do it? > >> > >> -- > >> ----------------------------------------------- > >> Bill Banks 508-829-2005 > >> Wachusett Programming Ourweb > >> http://www.ourweb.net > >> http://www.ourwebtemplates.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------- > Bill Banks 508-829-2005 > Wachusett Programming Ourweb > http://www.ourweb.net > http://www.ourwebtemplates.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:33:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF83C16A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from office@ourweb.net) Received: from ourweb.net (joey.ourweb.net [216.236.255.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E8A113C43E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:33:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from office@ourweb.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unverified [216.236.255.29]) by ourweb.net (SurgeMail 3.8f2) with ESMTP id 24598-1760316 for multiple; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <473B3181.8050109@ourweb.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:33:53 -0500 From: Bill Banks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Moran References: <47349D10.20709@ourweb.net> <20071109193001.Y20961@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473B2F54.7030208@ourweb.net> <20071114123010.f6ab79cf.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20071114123010.f6ab79cf.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: wpa@ourweb.net Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: shell programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:33:56 -0000 thanks Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Bill Banks : > > >> What am I doing wrough here: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> $DAYN='/bin/date +%a' + "_master.sql" >> mysqldump master > $DAYN >> > > Those look to be single quotes and not backquotes. (backquote is > the upper left key on most keyboards) > > >> Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >>> dayoftheweek=`date +%w` >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Bill Banks wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'm writing a backup script. I need to get the day of the week into >>>> a variable. How can I do it? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ----------------------------------------------- >>>> Bill Banks 508-829-2005 >>>> Wachusett Programming Ourweb >>>> http://www.ourweb.net >>>> http://www.ourwebtemplates.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------- >> Bill Banks 508-829-2005 >> Wachusett Programming Ourweb >> http://www.ourweb.net >> http://www.ourwebtemplates.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > -- ----------------------------------------------- Bill Banks 508-829-2005 Wachusett Programming Ourweb http://www.ourweb.net http://www.ourwebtemplates.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:48:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B32316A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from lon-mail-1.gradwell.net (lon-mail-1.gradwell.net [193.111.201.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF8E13C46A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 81-6-241-84.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk ([81.6.241.84] helo=[192.168.1.6] country=GB ident=bds#pop3^waywood$co^uk) by lon-mail-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.262) id 473b34d8.b815.45c; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:08 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <473B34C5.4030300@waywood.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:47:49 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <473B0D70.7020307@waywood.co.uk> <6.0.0.22.2.20071114094712.024bfe38@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20071114094712.024bfe38@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell PE4600 RAID5 server failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:12 -0000 Derek Ragona wrote: > At 09:00 AM 11/14/2007, Barnaby Scott wrote: >> I suspect I already know the answer to this, which is that the trouble >> I am having is nothing to do with the OS at all, but I have to ask, >> because I am otherwise up against a total brick wall! >> >> I bought a second-hand Dell Poweredge 4600 and installed FreeBSD 6.2 >> earlier this year. I had it set up with RAID5 using its PERC3/DC >> controller, with 7 x 73GB disks (+ 1 hot spare). So far so good, and >> it worked faultlessly as a Samba server for several months. >> >> At the beginning of October, it went down, reporting a mismatch >> between the configuration on the NVRAM and the disks. With help from >> Dell support, I managed to recreate the RAID array and it worked again >> for a month. >> >> In early November it happened again, and has kept happening since. At >> one point it appeared that the backplane was faulty, so I replaced >> that, but I cannot keep the server up for more than a day or so >> without this 'mismatch' poblem. >> >> What about diagnostics on the hardware you may ask? I have run all the >> diagnostic tools that Dell can supply - several times - and the server >> declares itself to be totally fault-free. >> >> My specific questions therefore: >> >> Is there any way at all that FreeBSD could be invloved with this >> problem? (I did notice for example that the Dell PERC3/DC controller >> was not in the list of supported hardware - but then again, why did it >> work for several months?) >> >> Can I use FreeBSD to tell me anything about the fault that Dell's >> diagnostic tools haven't found? >> >> (I do hope someone might be able to help - Dell are trying to get me >> to switch to a 'supported' OS!) >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Barnaby Scott > > It doesn't sound like any OS issue as you set up the RAID outside the > OS. It may be a bad drive or drive(s). Most RAID drives have RAID > information written to the drives, and if this becomes unreadable you > will have RAID faults. > > Another likely culprit is heat. Overheating drives often fail. Are you > sure the temperatures in the drive enclosure is OK? > > If you can, run diagnostics on the drives, this usually requires running > these with the drives taken out of the RAID array though. > > -Derek > Thanks for replying - as I said, this is a long shot trying to see if there is any OS involvement. The drives are fine - I have used two different tools to analyse them while the computer is booted from a live CD and the RAID configuration cleared on the controller. Besides, you would expect one drive to fail at a time, and if this happened, the hot spare would surely be pressed into service. Nothing like this has happened though - the controller is reporting several drives (not always the same ones) failed simultaneously, but when the array is re-created from the disks, everything works fine. Problem is, it goes down again a day or so later. As for heat, there is nothing being reported there and the fans that cool that area are working. Any other ideas gratefully received! Barnaby Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:51:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3ADF16A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [193.120.231.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858B913C458 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:51:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from SUNYA (sunya.wbt.wbtsystems.com [10.12.1.197]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36D2F740E; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:34:47 +0000 (GMT) From: "Barry Byrne" To: "'Bill Banks'" , "'FreeBSD Questions'" References: <47349D10.20709@ourweb.net><20071109193001.Y20961@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473B2F54.7030208@ourweb.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:34:45 -0000 Message-ID: <00b101c826e4$a5c06eb0$c5010c0a@SUNYA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <473B2F54.7030208@ourweb.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acgm41QShdbrBmhMT3uB+O9I17cWCAAAUZ8A Cc: Subject: RE: shell programming X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:51:27 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Bill Banks > Sent: 14 November 2007 17:25 > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: shell programming > > What am I doing wrough here: > > #!/bin/sh > $DAYN='/bin/date +%a' + "_master.sql" > mysqldump master > $DAYN Your quotes should be backticks not single quotes. Also drop the $ from before the variable name when assigning. #!/bin/sh DAYN=`/bin/date +%a` DAYN="${DAYN}_master.sql" - barry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:46:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CB216A46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87B913C46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tonylabarbara@aol.com) Received: from tonylabarbara@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id c.cf2.1efb82a4 (37130); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail-dd10 (webmail-dd10.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.10]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA024-910a473b346924; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:18 -0400 References: <8C9F4E55D5AFC1C-918-2AB6@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> <473B119C.2090105@unsane.co.uk> <8C9F4EDA68542DE-918-2F40@webmail-me12.sysops.aol.com> <473B1FF4.4010906@otenet.gr> To: sonicy@otenet.gr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: <473B1FF4.4010906@otenet.gr> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: tonylabarbara@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Received: from 190.166.0.252 by webmail-dd10.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.10) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:46:18 -0500 Message-Id: <8C9F4FD651310F2-D0C-15B4@webmail-dd10.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.10 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:56:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:46:29 -0000 That worked! Thank you :) Tony /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging -----Original Message----- From: Manolis Kiagias To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:19 pm Subject: Re: Tkinter Libraries Needed tonylabarbara@aol.com wrote:? > Right. I tried that a while back and forgot I had. This is what I get:? >? >? >? > server726# cd /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging? > server726# make install clean? > ===> Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python - found? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found? > ===> Generating temporary packing list? > ===> Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed? > ===> An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already installed (py23-imaging-1.1.5)? > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again? > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly.? > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/py-imaging? > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER"? > in your environment or the "make install" command line.? > *** Error code 1? >? > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging.? > server726# make deinstall? > ===> Deinstalling for graphics/py-imaging? > server726# make reinstall? > ===> Installing for py24-imaging-1.1.5? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages/_tkinter.so - found? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/python2.4 - found? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: jpeg.9 - found? > ===> py24-imaging-1.1.5 depends on shared library: freetype.9 - found? > ===> Generating temporary packing list? > ===> Checking if graphics/py-imaging already installed? > ===> An older version of graphics/py-imaging is already installed (py23-imaging-1.1.5)? > You may wish to ``make deinstall'' and install this port again? > by ``make reinstall'' to upgrade it properly.? > If you really wish to overwrite the old port of graphics/py-imaging? > without deleting it first, set the variable "FORCE_PKG_REGISTER"? > in your environment or the "make install" command line.? > *** Error code 1? >? > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging.? > *** Error code 1? >? > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging.? >? > Ideas?? > TIA,? > Tony? >? >? >? > /usr/ports/graphics/py-imaging? >? >? >? > Maybe a long shot, but I would try something in the line of:? ? pkg_delete -f "py23-imaging-1.1.5*"? ? or try? ? pkg_info | grep py23-imaging? ? to get the exact name and use it in pkg_delete? ? the try installing the new port.? ? Also make sure you have not missed any steps mentioned in /usr/ports/UPDATING? I've never had python23, but there are specific steps to follow upgrading e.g 2.4 to 2.5? Make sure you have not omitted any of the relevant steps for your version.? ? _______________________________________________? freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list? http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions? To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:05:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7974616A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3416F13C458 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:05:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s42so193234rnb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:05:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=DcnbiEsR6Av1zD3He4QFBgwGG4nXiwCe4wpGqNYtLa4=; b=Y5xfkks9V71YG6IFTM5WigztgCFjDr6/YpnJWaVgZhEdanQ+5tA+A9vJ3CC94ukWvtWNDRymVIRUOmI7OgA1p0I1omPlaVJiJxfIFCjWKN4etq1ZZ6RRhmbawGcrVgpNJuEDHpaaOHYe/rKEb7zF5fQtLl1y4csMG85s3cxzr2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qvzEVOoGxItqPi222ptJA65Xrm5x95mzthmFh4NpKI+mwmWXxNd5uAPC2B4NtWXJQ25BwFVF6z98TqodYvcnySELUjAXpW9Yk1egDEFBsq7FDd5/Udm8I0yCtZr5yl3m7POAyaxLxTBfBEA9EAJ+jf1ufpLwWqd4xEksVyaeCFM= Received: by 10.142.224.5 with SMTP id w5mr1679872wfg.1195063539785; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.164.20 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:05:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:05:39 -0500 From: "Matt Fioravante" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:05:41 -0000 Would there be any negative ramifications to installing ports in /usr instead of /usr/local? Like could they potentially clobber system binaries and other files or is this pretty safe to do? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:11:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F3A16A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE4913C46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:11:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAEI36RW011412 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:03:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from omnihp-rj45.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEIA0wk054278 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:10:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <473B39EB.3000702@polands.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:09:47 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/4785/Wed Nov 14 10:26:20 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Can anyone recommend an external firewire-based drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:11:50 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for an external, firewire-based, hard-drive from which to run FreeBSD 7.0 (i386). Ideally, I'd boot from this device as well, but I'm not sure if FreeBSD (or my BIOS) supports booting from firewire. Can anyone recommend a manufacturer and/or model? -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:12:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4AAC16A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAB313C505 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so59178ana for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:12:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=4sfObsxIaql44YoSdxAqJ10/AOprPBc6IHwulZtS24s=; b=CPzwHrEXjO6sQ+hj0k9Acww75WmXGkDSfA/XK5D5AFzgb+hPOaszJk45TNEEwMrwzjyurWm07ekz8HVQZA+jSyn25Gsx2GaZhFB92K0nI1qRxt/wPDtHxOJAcssOlKU69wju4cQysdqQ0MmCAiobnuWxgFk+pwS8r5OrzWlK12k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=WTr/2Wfq3+rxNdvtYLbDeSD/cdrMMpX8OMsiWz2Qb02IZpg+DC9We5d+egKtz3hAgyNtZ28ZAb7d8SPLtaEYMCH3DTMt+gXxWnMvKoyQGqmSQr8/3srYe8lN1iwVAIwimePHHnj9hFxx3qZHe5Hau7xLhV3I8PF9uip2kXHS5jc= Received: by 10.142.229.4 with SMTP id b4mr2233307wfh.1195062255579; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:44:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.162.6 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:44:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0711140944l6283e076g36339d8ef8b5690@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:44:15 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Gateway problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:31 -0000 Hi, I have some troubles building my internet gateway to my network. I already have a gateway machine running under linux, with two interfaces eth0 (192.168.1.1) and eth1 (external world), but I installed a new server running FreeBSD6.2 with ipfilter and squid, in the test time with had the ip 192.168.1.240 in the rl0 and a external ip on rl1, I've configured some machines in the network (3) to use it as gateway to test it and the transparent proxy, everything worked fine. So I turned off my linux machine and configured the BSD ip on rl0 to 192.168.1.1 and then it stop resolving names. I have a DNS server in my network with the ip 192.168.1.2, I still can ping to it and to the external world, but the names aren't resolved anymore, it work for some seconds and then stop. When I turn on the linuxmachine and plug it on the network with the ip 192.168.1.1 and change the bsd ip to anything else it work again, resolve names and everything stay just as suposed to be. If I turn off linux and set the rl0 to 192.168.1.1 it stop resolving names but can ping to anywhere. Help!!! in the rc.conf gateway_enable="YES" defaultrouter="X.X.X.X" etc... Everything seems to be OK. Thankz for the attention Hugs! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:13:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ACB16A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from drone1.qsi.net.nz (drone1-svc-skyt.qsi.net.nz [202.89.128.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240A113C4E7 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: (qmail 14496 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2007 18:13:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chen.org.nz) ([202.89.146.5]) (envelope-sender ) by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 14 Nov 2007 18:13:10 -0000 Received: by chen.org.nz (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5028E7E863; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:13:09 +1300 (NZDT) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:13:09 +1300 From: Jonathan Chen To: Matt Fioravante Message-ID: <20071114181309.GA53731@osiris.chen.org.nz> References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:16 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:05:39PM -0500, Matt Fioravante wrote: > Would there be any negative ramifications to installing ports in /usr > instead of /usr/local? Like could they potentially clobber system > binaries and other files or is this pretty safe to do? It's not safe, for the reasons that you have specified. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Opportunities are seldom labeled From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:13:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFD716A481 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from postfix2-g20.free.fr (postfix2-g20.free.fr [212.27.60.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353AC13C521 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by postfix2-g20.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0871F1E9FFC2 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:46:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492D73F61B3; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:47:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from Llea.celt.neu (ron34-3-82-236-236-194.fbx.proxad.net [82.236.236.194]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8CFA3F61AB; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:47:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from Llea.celt.neu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Llea.celt.neu (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEHqfhe001155; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: (from michael@localhost) by Llea.celt.neu (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lAEHqeS4001154; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) X-Authentication-Warning: Llea.celt.neu: michael set sender to michael.grunewald@laposte.net using -f To: Martin McCormick References: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> From: michael.grunewald@laposte.net (=?iso-8859-15?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?=) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:52:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <200711141508.lAEF8veZ083725@m.it.okstate.edu> (Martin McCormick's message of "Wed\, 14 Nov 2007 09\:08\:57 -0600") Message-ID: <864pfosoif.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh Can one Easily Strip Path Name from $0? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:31 -0000 Martin McCormick writes: > I am ashamed to admit that I have been writing shell > scripts for about 15 years but this problem has me stumped. $0 > is the shell variable which contains the script name or at least > what name is linked to the script. The string in $0 may or may > not contain a path, depending upon how the script was called. It > is easy to strip off the path if it is always there > > #! /bin/sh > PROGNAME=3D`echo $0 |awk 'BEGIN{FS=3D"/"}{print $NF}'` > echo $PROGNAME As said by others, you can use `basename`. Apart from this, you can fix your old habit by prepending a '/' before '$0', like this: #! /bin/sh PROGNAME=3D`echo /$0 |awk 'BEGIN{FS=3D"/"}{print $NF}'` echo $PROGNAME Last, you can also use variable expansions mechanisms by saying: PROGNAME=3D"${0##*/}" The main difference with `basename` way is that the latter do not call a subprogram. (If you are sure there is no space in your name, you can remove the quotes, but are you sure?) See `Parameter Expansion' in sh(1). --=20 Best wishes, Micha=EBl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:21:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F60C16A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from mtao01.charter.net (mtao01.charter.net [209.225.8.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2690E13C4BE for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from icantthinkofone@charter.net) Received: from aarprv04.charter.net ([10.20.200.74]) by mtao01.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071114182130.IGXV18969.mtao01.charter.net@aarprv04.charter.net> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 -0500 Received: from robs-laptop.com ([71.85.241.27]) by aarprv04.charter.net with ESMTP id <20071114182130.XZEW17353.aarprv04.charter.net@robs-laptop.com> for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: <473B3CA8.1050102@charter.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:21:28 -0600 From: icantthinkofone User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070914) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <473A8BC4.6000005@charter.net> <473B1C95.70203@charter.net> <200711141722.07732.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200711141722.07732.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Chzlrs: 0 Subject: Re: FreeBSD cache memory allocation X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:21:41 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 17:04:37 schrieb icantthinkofone: > >> Ivan Voras wrote: >> >>> icantthinkofone wrote: >>> >>>> Someone I can't stand said this about FreeBSD. Though I know C, I don't >>>> know anything about it and would love to respond. >>>> [QUOTE]The kernel is really lacking some features. They need a method to >>>> set precise type of memory cache but BSD doesn't provide way to specify >>>> memory cache. >>>> >>>> For that reason MS has the beautiful >>>> MmAllocateContigousMemorySpecifyCache()[/QUOTE] >>>> >>> Well, I know there's contigmalloc(9) in FreeBSD but you will get a >>> better answer if you ask this question on freebsd-hackers@. >>> >> That's what I thought but not sure if they were equivalent. >> I'm not signed up over there but I will now. Thanks. >> > > That's not entirely true. MmAllocateContiguousMemorySpecifyCache does > something that's currently not (easily) possible with FreeBSD, namely set up > an MTRR entry (i.e. a specific caching state) specifically for the portion of > contiguous memory being allocated (normally, the driver wants to set the > memory to uncached if using this call). > > This is something that the NVIDIA driver development guys have wanted to have > for a long time (for performance reasons) in the FreeBSD kernel, and there's > someone developing a patch to implement this (AFAICT from reading some > websites), but it doesn't seem like it's finished so far. > > Read up on the NVIDIA requirements to develop an accelerated graphics driver > on AMD64 to get more details on this (there's a "workaround" on i386, but > that depends on the specific system's pre-setup MTRR records from the BIOS; > this one of the reasons there's an accelerated graphics driver for i386 and > not for AMD64). > > I thought that might be the case. (I did ask about this on 'hackers'). Is it possible Nvidia is trying to make FreeBSD work like Windows, in a sense? iow, they used this function in their driver and now everyone has to use it? Or is this really a fault of FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:26:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50AE16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mail.itu.dk (pluto.itu.dk [130.226.142.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E8E13C45A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:26:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.3]) by mail.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6361F36F384; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:20:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at itu.dk Received: from superman.itu.dk ([130.226.142.5]) by localhost (daredevil.itu.dk [130.226.142.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wtqHJret+0YH; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:20:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by superman.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05FEE9E6CE; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:20:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473B3C56.5020103@cederstrand.dk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:20:06 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Fioravante References: <3eca10930711140740gb8c2b88v6a13795c41e3eafb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711140740gb8c2b88v6a13795c41e3eafb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails and multicore boxes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:26:03 -0000 Matt Fioravante wrote: > I've heard that things like freebsd jails or solaris zones can still > be insecure on multicore boxes because a race condition can occur. I > don't know more details about it other than that. Is this true now on > freebsd? There's always the possibility that a bug exists which lets you break out of a jail and give you access to the host system. > Also, I have a home server which I'm considering running apache, bind, > dhcp, and possiblty opening ports for some other services. Is it > overkill to run all of these each in their own jail? You'll have to answer that yourself. How valuable is your data? What are you trying to protect? If you're worrying about getting cracked and used as a spam bot, jails are no more secure than a non-jail system. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:27:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549FD16A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from mail.itu.dk (pluto.itu.dk [130.226.142.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10EDF13C4D3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cederstrand.dk) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.3]) by mail.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C9036C974; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:24:29 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at itu.dk Received: from superman.itu.dk ([130.226.142.5]) by localhost (daredevil.itu.dk [130.226.142.26]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iR39OtVcF8Ba; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:24:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from wimac.littlebit.dk (unknown [85.233.238.191]) by superman.itu.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E309E6CA; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:24:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473B3D4E.7040103@cederstrand.dk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:24:14 +0100 From: Erik Cederstrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <20071114103225.q7bueyig2s4g400o@webmailm.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <20071114103225.q7bueyig2s4g400o@webmailm.dfwlp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jails in 6.3 and 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:27:18 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > I was reading a while back that the jails tcp system was getting an > overhaul, possibly in the 7.0 release. I don't remember all the > particulars, but things along the lines to make jails function even > more like a real (independant) system. I believe one of the > improvments might have been a separate virtual interface, thus > allowing he jail to have its own pf configuration. > > I've not seen anything else on this topic, so I was wondering if > anyone might know if that's going to make in to 7 (and possibly > backported to 6.3)? You're thinking about the Network Stack Virtualization project: http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2007-07-2007-10.html#Network-Stack-Virtualization In short: not ready yet. Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:33:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004D516A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfahey@enter.net) Received: from fahey.enter.net (fahey.enter.net [216.193.128.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BF013C442 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mfahey@enter.net) Received: from [216.193.128.221] (fahey.enter.net [216.193.128.221]) by fahey.enter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAEILxN2044536 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:22:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mfahey@enter.net) Message-ID: <473B3CC6.6090609@enter.net> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:58 -0500 From: Mike Fahey Organization: Enter.Net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050401) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Gcc Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mfahey@enter.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:33:12 -0000 Freebsd4.10 When I try to compile any problem I get the following error. Any suggestions? Thanks. helpers/dummy.c:1: syntax error before `/' Here is a sample trying to build any port. make ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 - found ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on shared library: intl - found ===> Configuring for wget-1.10.2_1 configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target configure: configuring for GNU Wget 1.10.2 checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd4.10 checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd4.10 checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... eval: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. Please report the problem to vd@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the "/usr/ports/ftp/wget/work/wget-1.10.2/config.log" including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`). *** Error code 1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:37:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43B8A16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.225.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E410913C459 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:37:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 34425 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 18:10:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=KwnuwuR8+yICvk5yNp5RGkHHND3iHeKIQU1mEayEqOc1wThBxBhZeNAoWIJFW3THbn+J7v1dOIM97L7qWeHCgSu14NzrC43dcyNML3xLWTICbGxe8hw/JAv76Bjo60aDra7Jgh4C0eEibYiXe8RVyYd4yrrMjlQeUDCqskf29O0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@rogers.com@99.224.65.182 with login) by smtp108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 18:10:58 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: OTJwohMVM1lfYTxd7MOF7jFiauaPaEQSlRI5r_D0.eZsxvFAa3CE9RN4s5nm4HYtQg-- From: "Tamouh H." To: "'Barnaby Scott'" , "'Derek Ragona'" References: <473B0D70.7020307@waywood.co.uk><6.0.0.22.2.20071114094712.024bfe38@mail.computinginnovations.com> <473B34C5.4030300@waywood.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:12:39 -0500 Message-ID: <039801c826e9$f1804550$6700a8c0@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acgm5pe6EK8MDFldQrmS+SGSPuJ9egAAq/MQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <473B34C5.4030300@waywood.co.uk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Dell PE4600 RAID5 server failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:37:39 -0000 >=20 > Derek Ragona wrote: > > At 09:00 AM 11/14/2007, Barnaby Scott wrote: > >> I suspect I already know the answer to this, which is that the=20 > >> trouble I am having is nothing to do with the OS at all,=20 > but I have=20 > >> to ask, because I am otherwise up against a total brick wall! > >> > >> I bought a second-hand Dell Poweredge 4600 and installed=20 > FreeBSD 6.2=20 > >> earlier this year. I had it set up with RAID5 using its PERC3/DC=20 > >> controller, with 7 x 73GB disks (+ 1 hot spare). So far so=20 > good, and=20 > >> it worked faultlessly as a Samba server for several months. > >> > >> At the beginning of October, it went down, reporting a mismatch=20 > >> between the configuration on the NVRAM and the disks. With=20 > help from=20 > >> Dell support, I managed to recreate the RAID array and it worked=20 > >> again for a month. > >> > >> In early November it happened again, and has kept=20 > happening since. At=20 > >> one point it appeared that the backplane was faulty, so I replaced=20 > >> that, but I cannot keep the server up for more than a day or so=20 > >> without this 'mismatch' poblem. > >> > >> What about diagnostics on the hardware you may ask? I have run all=20 > >> the diagnostic tools that Dell can supply - several times=20 > - and the=20 > >> server declares itself to be totally fault-free. > >> > >> My specific questions therefore: > >> > >> Is there any way at all that FreeBSD could be invloved with this=20 > >> problem? (I did notice for example that the Dell PERC3/DC=20 > controller=20 > >> was not in the list of supported hardware - but then=20 > again, why did=20 > >> it work for several months?) > >> > >> Can I use FreeBSD to tell me anything about the fault that Dell's=20 > >> diagnostic tools haven't found? > >> > >> (I do hope someone might be able to help - Dell are trying=20 > to get me=20 > >> to switch to a 'supported' OS!) > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Barnaby Scott > >=20 > > It doesn't sound like any OS issue as you set up the RAID=20 > outside the=20 > > OS. It may be a bad drive or drive(s). Most RAID drives have RAID=20 > > information written to the drives, and if this becomes=20 > unreadable you=20 > > will have RAID faults. > >=20 > > Another likely culprit is heat. Overheating drives often=20 > fail. Are=20 > > you sure the temperatures in the drive enclosure is OK? > >=20 > > If you can, run diagnostics on the drives, this usually requires=20 > > running these with the drives taken out of the RAID array though. > >=20 > > -Derek > >=20 >=20 > Thanks for replying - as I said, this is a long shot trying=20 > to see if there is any OS involvement. >=20 > The drives are fine - I have used two different tools to=20 > analyse them while the computer is booted from a live CD and=20 > the RAID configuration cleared on the controller. Besides,=20 > you would expect one drive to fail at a time, and if this=20 > happened, the hot spare would surely be pressed into service.=20 > Nothing like this has happened though - the controller is=20 > reporting several drives (not always the same ones) failed=20 > simultaneously, but when the array is re-created from the=20 > disks, everything works fine. Problem is, it goes down again=20 > a day or so later. >=20 > As for heat, there is nothing being reported there and the=20 > fans that cool that area are working. >=20 > Any other ideas gratefully received! >=20 > Barnaby Scott This is very unlikely to be OS related. But here are few pointers: 1) Check the make/model of the drives. Certain types of make/model SCSI = drives had a glitch in them a while ago with a certain firmware that = they'd disconnect from a RAID. I had a personal experience with these = ones (Seagate U320). 2) What did happen in October? Anything hardware, software, power wise = has occurred ? 3) NVRAM and Disk mismatch, I'd say check the controller, backup battery = present but weak ? 4) Unlikely to be the source, but run a test on your physical RAM using = MEMTEST86+ and check the power supply is sufficient and working = properly. =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 18:42:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4D716A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFCB13C46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:42:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAEIcN2Y009690; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:38:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAEIcNsh009689; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:38:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:38:23 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Matt Fioravante Message-ID: <20071114183823.GA9583@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:42:06 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:05:39PM -0500, Matt Fioravante wrote: > Would there be any negative ramifications to installing ports in /usr > instead of /usr/local? Like could they potentially clobber system > binaries and other files or is this pretty safe to do? You break the 'standard' file/directory hierarchy. Even though it is not supposed to be so, there may be some things out there that make the assumption that stuff will be found in its standard place. See man hier ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 19:10:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 443C216A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E807113C474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:10:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so3067403pyb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:10:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pQbWUAFzYQ/YrRJHvugzXdl5awouHA25RoV7iDNUc/U=; b=cXFdOOpSldqmrQCCH//qya7Fdcsqofl9X1UgDk8Ig3/tgeWx0mNNlZr9Zwht65lFmdGqcLkKwUNzOSNaS1xzHXvQpv2D+cKQZAxfMHGh4q5tU1gz5A0sqSTn99KUvTEe77L2Z/eN5BrazdVUcwvNb9nCSN9l9cNRA8vnFeBxZU0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TwgQIVSuctyu+Cu1vHYWyQiFFoKlW6Mty/ZsdiYgcbM52iox1A96p0yz5ODilt1hnW6IdwGeLLGv2NZF3VhoaGchSABnsK7rxGSyE0E0uwCGG2m7Gp3IouAZu5fXze/Qw4f7BCemJd95dtuSGnXIeMu5W56HJKI2/8j+SkDX6q8= Received: by 10.35.98.3 with SMTP id a3mr9161292pym.1195067454815; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:10:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.57.12 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:10:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0711141110j61dcd607m9c2b059d80239c80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:10:54 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Matt Fioravante" In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:10:56 -0000 > Would there be any negative ramifications to installing ports in /usr > instead of /usr/local? Like could they potentially clobber system > binaries and other files or is this pretty safe to do? More importantly, why do you want/need to do this? I personally like the separation of world and ports. It keeps things nice and tidy, and that's I'm sure a major reason why it was done that way (obviously, clobbering things in /usr is the main reason). Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 19:34:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9652816A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: from web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3295F13C442 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:34:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from annkok2001@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 78186 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2007 19:07:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=lFUbfhXOpTxMgMiggF4CyYWnTGnzT4vbKffx7teKw+cOvDiAktroMqn/u18i9ReSEWe1hSZ71agS0xDwXw8WuIYMif/wBfTdJrCrb9pgofHClQVcJs/CtAJm0DGBovSNgjymUqhd/DP87vK2Ebo6dRCRHGjYmh8+ocVMt0UVwAI=; X-YMail-OSG: lbT6WIAVM1ngS3hN7e3XTrJOBKP4dfpt_uKzSu5.XkyZeq8xkgmSpLAyIVkHc_s4XufAHuOJ5ZV5vyuBIshDD.YYc9KXuvDnvfkrUfVGX.HZUF7qg2Ew7Lr.N9y7zkvbnr7bfY.BazXXgb8LZBFHqH09Zw-- Received: from [66.49.254.13] by web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:07:29 PST Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:07:29 -0800 (PST) From: ann kok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <295004.76329.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:39:33 +0000 Subject: Can you help about script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:34:11 -0000 Hi all I don't have idea how to write this script, please help I have thousand records in this format indexed by FileNo. FileNo: 001 Name: NameA Address1: AddressA1 Address2: AddressA2 Phone: PhoneA Created by I need to write a script to replace those Fields eg: (NameA AddressA1.... if it matchs the FileNo.001...002...) to get Data in this file FileNo:001 Name A AddressA1 AddressA2 PhoneA FileNo:002 Name B AddressB1 AddressB2 PhoneB FileNo:003 Name C AddressC1 AddressC2 PhoneC Thank you for your help ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 19:40:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AF016A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251E013C46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 7DA0316B90D; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:40:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.77]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C72A016B780; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:40:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:38:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:38:26 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Matt Fioravante In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071114133802.M51192@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.1 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE,SPAM_PHRASE_02_03 version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:40:04 -0000 On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Matt Fioravante wrote: > Would there be any negative ramifications to installing ports in /usr > instead of /usr/local? Like could they potentially clobber system > binaries and other files or is this pretty safe to do? I know of a few name conflicts that can occur in certain circumstances (such as the system lpr and hplip lpr). You may be lucky and avoid these. It is also possible that some ports will not find one another or that wrong locations may be hard coded --- this should not happen, but there should not be any broken ports, unfetchable sources and so forth. Such an arrangement would require extreme vigilance, beyond what the ports management software can do (if they can be persuaded to work at all in such an environment). I cannot think of a good reason to do what you want to do, but you ought to be very clear that somehow there is no other way and be prepared for the consequences. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 19:49:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144BA16A46D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A07113C478 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 27330 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2007 19:22:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 19:22:26 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 929A82840A; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:22:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:22:26 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Doug Poland Message-ID: <20071114192226.GA10573@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <473B39EB.3000702@polands.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473B39EB.3000702@polands.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an external firewire-based drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:49:14 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:09:47PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for an external, firewire-based, hard-drive from which to > run FreeBSD 7.0 (i386). Ideally, I'd boot from this device as well, but > I'm not sure if FreeBSD (or my BIOS) supports booting from firewire. > > Can anyone recommend a manufacturer and/or model? I haven't used it with FreeBSD but my Seagate 300G works very with Macintosh. LaCie is another highly respected brand among Mac users. There were some Western Digital Firewire externals on the market but many Mac users had problems. With Apple as one of Firewire's parents its pretty sad if a Firewire product doesn't work with a Mac. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 19:51:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EA916A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1E313C448 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEJp8d0080442; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAEJp6KY080399; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from sj-webwasher.Cadence.COM (sj-webwasher.Cadence.COM [158.140.1.25]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800 Message-ID: <1195069866.473b51aa13e39@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800 From: Yuri To: Richard Tobin References: <20071114170444.0B8D9288BDF@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20071114170444.0B8D9288BDF@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 158.140.1.25 Cc: yuri@tsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:51:14 -0000 Thank you Richard, This URL does the trick. But it's still strange that there's no GUI utility in KDE or just X that would do it. Yuri Quoting Richard Tobin : > > What is the easiest way to get the UNICODE number for a Chinese > character? > > Try http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/utf-8.html > > Paste it into the box and select "Interpret as Character". > > -- Richard > -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 19:53:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF81416A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B8D513C45B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 99270 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2007 19:53:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=tT/OAYLBYLSKbYHDOMTH0+c183iiQ5ObmVPJknUQpQQFLF+AdCavC3tojFJZmlGlmnDnszYkApNPZXcsI/7r8V81ycEW9uFolPCnrgmim+c0nB25sCr1Pv70ioaODTxlTqaD0s2YDOVsyOlN3O4nqLCHA0jUnZDY8D2ygL0WsDY=; X-YMail-OSG: Sc4hvgwVM1nKT10wDAOHJIarbgZTl_6wprpQVRg0H.00BQmWzJ_uHQvesup5O4TGYjKxpg7mSECKFKMPU1hF.XWNVsOTVZdIFtPrjCNt7wUbteD0H8HbTFBzPtDLX50fNdsQB4qzvrqSdSI- Received: from [195.241.94.180] by web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:53:36 PST Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:53:36 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: Toni Schmidbauer In-Reply-To: <86d4vw2tli.wl%pinhead@skunk.user.lan.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <13520.99166.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg impossible problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:53:39 -0000 Toni Schmidbauer wrote: At Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:43:11 -0700 (PDT), Dino Vliet wrote: > from time to time, Xorg crashes and won't restart (especially when I'm using firefox) and I have found firefox.core, gnash.core and metacity.core files in my home directory afterwards i actually have the same problems, but i'm using the nv driver (quadro fx 560). i think this is somehow related to xorg and gnash/firefox. can you try to disable the gnash plugin in firefox? i'm not completely sure but xorg seems to be more stable since then. toni -- Wer es einmal so weit gebracht hat, dass er nicht | toni at it-austria dot net mehr irrt, der hat auch zu arbeiten aufgehoert | Toni Schmidbauer -- Max Planck | Thanks Toni, I was running gnash indeed and found it out the hard way. I was experiencing this bad behavior because I was running securelevel 3 ass well so Xorg kept crashing like crazy and I couldn't do anything else. I finally gave up on gnash and hopefully everything will work better now. Thanks for your help. This message of yours made me uninstall gnash and I think for the better. Brgds Dino --------------------------------- Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:19:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C7C16A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donovan@dmpnet.org) Received: from mazar.dmpnet.org (mazar.dmpnet.org [87.127.11.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52DE13C474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from donovan@dmpnet.org) Received: from DonovansLaptop (ibm-laptop.dmpnet.org [192.168.67.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mazar.dmpnet.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FC2BD52 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:19:23 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> From: "Donovan R. Palmer" To: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:19:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Port GUI Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:19:31 -0000 I went to compile a programme in the port tree tonight. When I did so, a = GUI popped up with different options. No probs. However, later I = decided I wanted to compile it with different options. When I go to = compile it, the GUI doesn't pop up any more, so I assume it is using the = options I picked out in the first place. Is there a way to bring back = this GUI so I can select different options? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:26:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D838416A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [193.120.231.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9007D13C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:26:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from SUNYA (unknown [89.100.12.253]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86F5F7412; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:26:21 +0000 (GMT) From: "Barry Byrne" To: "'Donovan R. Palmer'" , References: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:25:56 -0000 Message-ID: <004001c826fc$9e3ed0b0$0201a8c0@SUNYA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acgm+7lyWIwUI1czT3eJ+3lXZZ0/PQAAMUxw Cc: Subject: RE: Port GUI Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:26:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of > Donovan R. Palmer > Sent: 14 November 2007 20:19 > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Port GUI Config > > I went to compile a programme in the port tree tonight. When > I did so, a GUI popped up with different options. No probs. > However, later I decided I wanted to compile it with > different options. When I go to compile it, the GUI doesn't > pop up any more, so I assume it is using the options I picked > out in the first place. Is there a way to bring back this > GUI so I can select different options? TIA You probably want to do: make config - barry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:29:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566FE16A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from aiolos.otenet.gr (aiolos.otenet.gr [195.170.0.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B891513C4D5 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-311140.home.otenet.gr [85.72.71.2]) by aiolos.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lAEKT34f002102; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:29:04 +0200 Message-ID: <473B5A8F.2060106@otenet.gr> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:29:03 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Donovan R. Palmer" References: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> In-Reply-To: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port GUI Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:08 -0000 Donovan R. Palmer wrote: > I went to compile a programme in the port tree tonight. When I did so, a GUI popped up with different options. No probs. However, later I decided I wanted to compile it with different options. When I go to compile it, the GUI doesn't pop up any more, so I assume it is using the options I picked out in the first place. Is there a way to bring back this GUI so I can select different options? TIA > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > make rmconfig see also man ports From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:29:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A5516A4A0 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from EXHUB015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-4.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F2013C4D3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:29:22 -0800 Message-ID: <473B5AA1.6010002@riderway.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:29:21 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Donovan R. Palmer" References: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> In-Reply-To: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Port GUI Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:29:23 -0000 Donovan R. Palmer wrote: > I went to compile a programme in the port tree tonight. When I did so, a GUI popped up with different options. No probs. However, later I decided I wanted to compile it with different options. When I go to compile it, the GUI doesn't pop up any more, so I assume it is using the options I picked out in the first place. Is there a way to bring back this GUI so I can select different options? TIA make config et al: make showconfig make rmconfig make rmconfig-recursive make config-recursive see /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk its very well documented. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:30:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2816A474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C810B13C45B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAEKUH0x028807; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:30:17 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAEKUGBn030988; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:30:16 -0700 Received: from p25dual1.lanl.gov (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48231F8005; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:30:12 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:30:12 -0700 To: ann kok , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: James In-Reply-To: <295004.76329.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <295004.76329.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20071114203012.D48231F8005@oppie-mail.lanl.gov> X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: Re: Can you help about script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:30:22 -0000 At 12:07 PM 11/14/2007, ann kok wrote: >Hi all > >I don't have idea how to write this script, please >help > >I have thousand records in this format indexed by >FileNo. > >FileNo: 001 >Name: NameA >Address1: AddressA1 >Address2: AddressA2 >Phone: PhoneA >Created by > > >I need to write a script to replace those Fields >eg: (NameA AddressA1.... if it matchs the >FileNo.001...002...) >to get Data in this file > > >FileNo:001 Name A AddressA1 AddressA2 >PhoneA >FileNo:002 Name B AddressB1 AddressB2 >PhoneB >FileNo:003 Name C AddressC1 AddressC2 >PhoneC > >Thank you for your help > Do you have any restrictions with regards to language? There are a few things that come to mind; if this is absolutely indexed how you stated, with no problems of extra blank lines etc existing, you could use line to read in the lines one at a time, use a simple grep/case statement to check whether the initial field conforms to a specific string, and assign each string to a variable. After six read ins, you have all the information you need and you ouput them however you want. James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:30:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC54C16A477 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BCB13C505; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473B5AF6.4010005@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:30:46 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <20071114103225.q7bueyig2s4g400o@webmailm.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <20071114103225.q7bueyig2s4g400o@webmailm.dfwlp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jails in 6.3 and 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:30:46 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > I was reading a while back that the jails tcp system was getting an overhaul, possibly in the 7.0 release. I don't remember all the particulars, but things along the lines to make jails function even more like a real (independant) system. I believe one of the improvments might have been a separate virtual interface, thus allowing he jail to have its own pf configuration. > > I've not seen anything else on this topic, so I was wondering if anyone might know if that's going to make in to 7 (and possibly backported to 6.3)? > It is still in development, although I think you can download a test iso. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:33:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA1C16A421 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:33:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DB913C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:33:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=58865 helo=attila) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsOvU-0006Mp-De; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:33:33 +0800 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:01:58 +0330 From: "Bahman M." To: "Donovan R. Palmer" Message-ID: <20071115000158.4dca4408@attila> In-Reply-To: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> References: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port GUI Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:33:37 -0000 On 2007-11-14 Donovan R. Palmer wrote: > I went to compile a programme in the port tree tonight. When I did > so, a GUI popped up with different options. No probs. However, later > I decided I wanted to compile it with different options. When I go to > compile it, the GUI doesn't pop up any more, so I assume it is using > the options I picked out in the first place. Is there a way to bring > back this GUI so I can select different options? TIA Check out /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk which explains all generic make switches of the ports system. But as a quick help, # make rmconfig will do what you asked about. -- Bahman Movaqar Give me six lines written by the most honourable of men, and I will find an excuse in them to hang him. -Cardinal Richelieu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:34:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4D016A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from kedah.mschosting.com (kedah.mschosting.com [202.75.42.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A080E13C4E1 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from b.movaqar@adempiere.org) Received: from [87.107.63.161] (port=51845 helo=attila) by kedah.mschosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsOwB-0006QI-SC; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:34:17 +0800 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:02:43 +0330 From: "Bahman M." To: "Donovan R. Palmer" Message-ID: <20071115000243.4bb5378c@attila> In-Reply-To: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> References: <000d01c826fb$a5a5c350$6543a8c0@DonovansLaptop> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - kedah.mschosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - adempiere.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port GUI Config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:34:20 -0000 On 2007-11-14 Donovan R. Palmer wrote: > I went to compile a programme in the port tree tonight. When I did > so, a GUI popped up with different options. No probs. However, later > I decided I wanted to compile it with different options. When I go to > compile it, the GUI doesn't pop up any more, so I assume it is using > the options I picked out in the first place. Is there a way to bring > back this GUI so I can select different options? TIA Check out /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk which explains all generic make switches of the ports system. Anyway, as a quick help, # make rmconfig will do what you want. -- Bahman Movaqar Give me six lines written by the most honourable of men, and I will find an excuse in them to hang him. -Cardinal Richelieu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:41:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35FC16A473 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (merlin.alerce.com [64.62.142.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE3413C459 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:41:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E96E33C73; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "satchel.alerce.com", Issuer "alerce.com" (verified OK)) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C142833C71; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id D6974195FE2; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:23:53 -0800 (PST) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18235.22873.795181.737806@almost.alerce.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:23:53 -0800 To: David Kelly In-Reply-To: <20071114192226.GA10573@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <473B39EB.3000702@polands.org> <20071114192226.GA10573@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Doug Poland , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an external firewire-based drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:41:02 -0000 David Kelly writes: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:09:47PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm looking for an external, firewire-based, hard-drive from which to > > run FreeBSD 7.0 (i386). Ideally, I'd boot from this device as well, but > > I'm not sure if FreeBSD (or my BIOS) supports booting from firewire. > > > > Can anyone recommend a manufacturer and/or model? > > I haven't used it with FreeBSD but my Seagate 300G works very with > Macintosh. LaCie is another highly respected brand among Mac users. > > There were some Western Digital Firewire externals on the market but > many Mac users had problems. With Apple as one of Firewire's parents its > pretty sad if a Firewire product doesn't work with a Mac. Are you running Mac OS X on your mac, or FreeBSD? I've had (until last week) an 8-core mac pro that was dual booting FreeBSD RELENG_6 and Mac OS X. FreeBSD would lock up the machine whenever I plugged a firewire disk drive into it (I tried 4 different disk drives). I'd see a couple of messages via syslog and boom. I didn't have time to debug it and now no longer have the machine, so this is useless as a bug report, but I'm curious what your experience has been. I'm planning to buy myself a mac pro in the near future (as soon as they announce the penryn based models) and am planning to dual boot RELENG_7 on it. If it's still having firewire problems, I'll follow up with a proper bug report. g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:47:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EAD16A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5383013C467 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:47:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD53AED0B3D; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:47:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.120] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IsP8l-00004w-00; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:47:15 +0100 Message-ID: <473B5EB6.3020609@web.de> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:46:46 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ann kok References: <295004.76329.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <295004.76329.qm@web53304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18qPHxE2Sseim32MjWtixUECW3b9YdKbcsAeGpX wKeOVTjmaQEiPYEEhKuRJqoOV/kMfzUdY7KIiCAC6KI1o6azG8 tpr7eCCv0= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can you help about script X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:47:48 -0000 ann kok schrieb: > Hi all > > I don't have idea how to write this script, please > help > > I have thousand records in this format indexed by > FileNo. > > FileNo: 001 > Name: NameA > Address1: AddressA1 > Address2: AddressA2 > Phone: PhoneA > Created by > > > I need to write a script to replace those Fields > eg: (NameA AddressA1.... if it matchs the > FileNo.001...002...) > to get Data in this file > > > FileNo:001 Name A AddressA1 AddressA2 > PhoneA > FileNo:002 Name B AddressB1 AddressB2 > PhoneB > FileNo:003 Name C AddressC1 AddressC2 > PhoneC > > Thank you for your help > > > It is definetely an issue for the 'awk' utility. Here is a working solution, although it could be done somehow shorter using patterns (I do not recall how they worked. But I have tested this one, it does the job. #awk -f prog.awk prog.awk should contain: { if( $1 == "FileNo:") { printf( "%s%s ", $1 , $2) } if( $1 == "Name:") { printf( "%s ", $2) } if( $1 == "Address1:") { printf( "%s ", $2) } if( $1 == "Address2:") { printf( "%s", $2) } if( $1 == "Phone:") { printf( "\n%s\n", $2) } } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:57:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339B816A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cokane@freebsd.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1328513C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cokane@freebsd.org) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CjZA1Y0070b6N640A06y00; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:46:00 +0000 Received: from discordia ([24.60.136.97]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ckm41Y00226FYqY0800000; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:46:05 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=eZv6nMkM5-pdnw4l3RoA:9 a=YG95LFvQ5DiKEPCtY48A:7 a=bRgedE5MOIfNe5amIOqGU3X_qZAA:4 a=d-AKD8BwCLQA:10 Received: by discordia (Postfix, from userid 103) id 0304F1634F7; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:46:00 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8-gr1 (2007-02-13) on discordia X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8-gr1 Received: from [172.20.1.3] (erwin.int.cokane.org [172.20.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by discordia (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD92E1634F6; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <473B5E77.1020309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:43 -0500 From: Coleman Kane Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dino Vliet References: <13520.99166.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <13520.99166.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Toni Schmidbauer , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg impossible problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cokane@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:57:03 -0000 Dino Vliet wrote: > Toni Schmidbauer wrote: At Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:43:11 -0700 (PDT), > Dino Vliet wrote: > >> from time to time, Xorg crashes and won't restart (especially when I'm using firefox) and I have found firefox.core, gnash.core and metacity.core files in my home directory afterwards >> > > i actually have the same problems, but i'm using the nv driver (quadro > fx 560). i think this is somehow related to xorg and > gnash/firefox. can you try to disable the gnash plugin in firefox? i'm > not completely sure but xorg seems to be more stable since then. > > toni > What version of pixman do you have installed? I experienced the same problems under pixman 0.9.5, and found that they are fixed in 0.9.6. FreeBSD has since updated the related port to match the new version. In my case, evince and swfdec were causing the crashing pretty reliably. I originally attributed the problem to swfdec, but after some GDBing, I found that it was happening in pixman. PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117854 -- Coleman Kane From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 20:58:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC35A16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB0513C43E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:58:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 23857 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2007 20:58:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (216.186.148.249) by smtp5.knology.net with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 20:58:20 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id CF2DF2840A; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:58:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:58:16 -0600 From: David Kelly To: George Hartzell Message-ID: <20071114205816.GA11672@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <473B39EB.3000702@polands.org> <20071114192226.GA10573@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> <18235.22873.795181.737806@almost.alerce.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18235.22873.795181.737806@almost.alerce.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Doug Poland , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can anyone recommend an external firewire-based drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:58:21 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 12:23:53PM -0800, George Hartzell wrote: > David Kelly writes: > > > > I haven't used it with FreeBSD but my Seagate 300G works very with > > Macintosh. LaCie is another highly respected brand among Mac users. > > Are you running Mac OS X on your mac, or FreeBSD? I see little point in running FreeBSD on my Mac. I have other boxes which run FreeBSD perfectly fine so it would be a waste of a perfectly good MacOS X. A Dell with FreeBSD is an excellent coprocessor for a Mac. Many FreeBSD things run perfectly fine on MacOS. I'd like avr-gcc to run as well on Mac as on FreeBSD, but its only svn and Terminal.app away from my Mac. And not currently worth my effort to properly build a current version on the Mac. I rather like editing in BBedit on the Mac. I think the free TextWrangler would be just as good for my use but don't remember if integrated CVS and SVN are included. Downloaded, installed, checked, nope. No CVS/SVN from within TextWrangler. > I'm planning to buy myself a mac pro in the near future (as soon as > they announce the penryn based models) and am planning to dual boot > RELENG_7 on it. I bought one of the first quad 2.6 GHz Mac Pros. Its sweet! Strangely not as solid as my dual G4-867 GHz. The Mac Pro almost always wakes immediately from sleep when manually invoked but stays down the 2nd time. Since Leopard it has failed to properly wake from sleep twice. But no such problem with the G4. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:03:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DBE16A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.friedrich@yum.com) Received: from mx2smtp.yum.com (mx2smtp.yum.com [168.182.19.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C713C45D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steven.friedrich@yum.com) Received: from Techxch24.us.tgr.net ([172.21.8.132]) by mx2smtp.yum.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:46:15 -0500 Importance: normal Priority: normal Received: from techxch09.us.tgr.net ([172.21.2.66]) by Techxch24.us.tgr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:46:15 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2992 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:46:14 -0500 Message-ID: <13CD1ABF6E52274AAD3BE1C3063747A907E0F0A0@techxch09.us.tgr.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: FreeBSD 7.0 Beta-2 can't find INDEX thread-index: Acgm/2X4Mh9jXVpNSUuGiPeBuKab7Q== From: "Friedrich, Steven" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2007 20:46:15.0039 (UTC) FILETIME=[660838F0:01C826FF] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 7.0 Beta-2 can't find INDEX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:03:17 -0000 I tried to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta-2 from the bootonly iso and from CD1 iso. The bootonly iso installs over the net and failed to fetch the INDEX when trying to install ports, i.e., xorg, etc. CD1 did the same thing. Is this a known problem? I tried to search the mailing list archives and the bug database to no avail. Surprisingly, the bug database doesn't allow us to search for bugs against 7.0 Beta-2 only... Steven Friedrich Louisville, KY 40229 There are 10 types of people in this world. Ones that understand binary and then, the others. The world's greatest CEO's have yet to figure out that the solution to hunger is living-wage employment! This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If = you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose = to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please = delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this = process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:09:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A39616A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB6F13C4E3; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473B641A.9020207@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:09:46 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Friedrich, Steven" References: <13CD1ABF6E52274AAD3BE1C3063747A907E0F0A0@techxch09.us.tgr.net> In-Reply-To: <13CD1ABF6E52274AAD3BE1C3063747A907E0F0A0@techxch09.us.tgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.0 Beta-2 can't find INDEX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:09:46 -0000 Friedrich, Steven wrote: > I tried to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta-2 from the bootonly iso and from CD1 > iso. The bootonly iso installs over the net and failed to fetch the > INDEX when trying to install ports, i.e., xorg, etc. > > CD1 did the same thing. > > Is this a known problem? Yes, packages are only installed in the "release" directory where sysinstall is looking later on in the release process. You should be able to use pkg_add -r, portinstall -P etc post-install. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:38:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712116A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:38:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357AB13C459 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAELbw7l094454; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:37:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071114153312.024eda70@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:37:41 -0600 To: "Tamouh H." , "'Barnaby Scott'" From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <039801c826e9$f1804550$6700a8c0@tamouh> References: <473B0D70.7020307@waywood.co.uk> <6.0.0.22.2.20071114094712.024bfe38@mail.computinginnovations.com> <473B34C5.4030300@waywood.co.uk> <039801c826e9$f1804550$6700a8c0@tamouh> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Dell PE4600 RAID5 server failing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:38:06 -0000 At 12:12 PM 11/14/2007, Tamouh H. wrote: > > > > Derek Ragona wrote: > > > At 09:00 AM 11/14/2007, Barnaby Scott wrote: > > >> I suspect I already know the answer to this, which is that the > > >> trouble I am having is nothing to do with the OS at all, > > but I have > > >> to ask, because I am otherwise up against a total brick wall! > > >> > > >> I bought a second-hand Dell Poweredge 4600 and installed > > FreeBSD 6.2 > > >> earlier this year. I had it set up with RAID5 using its PERC3/DC > > >> controller, with 7 x 73GB disks (+ 1 hot spare). So far so > > good, and > > >> it worked faultlessly as a Samba server for several months. > > >> > > >> At the beginning of October, it went down, reporting a mismatch > > >> between the configuration on the NVRAM and the disks. With > > help from > > >> Dell support, I managed to recreate the RAID array and it worked > > >> again for a month. > > >> > > >> In early November it happened again, and has kept > > happening since. At > > >> one point it appeared that the backplane was faulty, so I replaced > > >> that, but I cannot keep the server up for more than a day or so > > >> without this 'mismatch' poblem. > > >> > > >> What about diagnostics on the hardware you may ask? I have run all > > >> the diagnostic tools that Dell can supply - several times > > - and the > > >> server declares itself to be totally fault-free. > > >> > > >> My specific questions therefore: > > >> > > >> Is there any way at all that FreeBSD could be invloved with this > > >> problem? (I did notice for example that the Dell PERC3/DC > > controller > > >> was not in the list of supported hardware - but then > > again, why did > > >> it work for several months?) > > >> > > >> Can I use FreeBSD to tell me anything about the fault that Dell's > > >> diagnostic tools haven't found? > > >> > > >> (I do hope someone might be able to help - Dell are trying > > to get me > > >> to switch to a 'supported' OS!) > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Barnaby Scott > > > > > > It doesn't sound like any OS issue as you set up the RAID > > outside the > > > OS. It may be a bad drive or drive(s). Most RAID drives have RAID > > > information written to the drives, and if this becomes > > unreadable you > > > will have RAID faults. > > > > > > Another likely culprit is heat. Overheating drives often > > fail. Are > > > you sure the temperatures in the drive enclosure is OK? > > > > > > If you can, run diagnostics on the drives, this usually requires > > > running these with the drives taken out of the RAID array though. > > > > > > -Derek > > > > > > > Thanks for replying - as I said, this is a long shot trying > > to see if there is any OS involvement. > > > > The drives are fine - I have used two different tools to > > analyse them while the computer is booted from a live CD and > > the RAID configuration cleared on the controller. Besides, > > you would expect one drive to fail at a time, and if this > > happened, the hot spare would surely be pressed into service. > > Nothing like this has happened though - the controller is > > reporting several drives (not always the same ones) failed > > simultaneously, but when the array is re-created from the > > disks, everything works fine. Problem is, it goes down again > > a day or so later. > > > > As for heat, there is nothing being reported there and the > > fans that cool that area are working. > > > > Any other ideas gratefully received! > > > > Barnaby Scott > >This is very unlikely to be OS related. But here are few pointers: > >1) Check the make/model of the drives. Certain types of make/model SCSI >drives had a glitch in them a while ago with a certain firmware that >they'd disconnect from a RAID. I had a personal experience with these ones >(Seagate U320). > >2) What did happen in October? Anything hardware, software, power wise has >occurred ? > >3) NVRAM and Disk mismatch, I'd say check the controller, backup battery >present but weak ? > >4) Unlikely to be the source, but run a test on your physical RAM using >MEMTEST86+ and check the power supply is sufficient and working properly. > > I've had some raid drives disconnect and go missing, which all cleared and was rebuilt on a full power-off reboot. I belive this is due to some power issues in my area. Specifically my line power from the utility was running high, over 127 volts, making over-voltage spikes prevalent. On a couple spikes I saw the drives disconnect. So it could be power related. On temperature, I would put in a temperature probe and check it from the external probe. Some remote KVM solutions now include temperature probes. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:39:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C219016A46C for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD6613C481 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAELdb1T007142 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:39:37 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:39:47 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:39:50 -0000 my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one of its items it updated: [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. Reference: => Please update your ports tree and try again. *** Error code 1 what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would build it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any port security settings on either one, so this is some curious behavior to me. thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:43:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD216A46B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3195B13C45D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:43:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAELhHSv007189 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:43:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:43:27 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141543.27342.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:43:29 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: > my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one of its > items it updated: > > [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- > cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System > > but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: > > ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: > => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > Reference: > c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try again. > *** Error code 1 > > what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would build > it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any port security > settings on either one, so this is some curious behavior to me. > > thanks, another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for this, it says: Affects: cups-base <1.3.3_1 but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:46:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F72116A418 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peceka@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDF413C4AC for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peceka@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so296931nfb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:46:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Cur5fueGhOcZgs53fdWvUl4zXU8IFZApeWxHr/uJV54=; b=RbckScA8qjeA2+cSvQsbk4nvvV0u5/4sf3oCfQCw9J41B/1vx8yOZO2oDVSUcvPY2zgUJ5r05Lff4efrVUp1Iz+B1qmlnxkT8S1ccGuf8XGd9i2T0iDOIcEKc0DnyCUz+fwr0OYuLIxzDu9Wo8Rl4vH6hV1+pNex1dA6P8PEwmM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JxS7aGHQ6LZCUW7oinsf2fMK7R+oZbFUOeComH96y8/QFsJ2Wxixv2DGbx/0FYp/H7KRPenqsoWxTkCv1CYwpfZ64ksJD2KiiDn2d6mvpK0eEmoT4p6P9ASH4swxXTqDcPOnTQ6GCJ4wjFdiDm4TgEHyKXCeaRmsHHFISGl2Pdk= Received: by 10.86.70.8 with SMTP id s8mr7300640fga.1195075272129; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.104? ( [87.207.107.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm975020fge.2007.11.14.13.21.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:21:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:21:01 +0100 From: peceka User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 7.0, make buildworld without contrib. old top binary in contrib. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:46:24 -0000 Hi, can someone tell me if there is any possibility to do make buildworld without compiling all contrib/ directory? I don't need for example bind9 in base, ipfilter, lukemftp(d). And why in /usr/src/contrib is very old top binary, 3.5beta12? On http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop there is top-3.7beta2 where ie. -c option, very helpful, works. Regards, p. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:54:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E0816A46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A2913C46E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2007 16:54:01 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JII10694; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2007 16:52:53 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18235.28272.497787.827952@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:53:52 -0500 To: peceka In-Reply-To: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> References: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 7.0, make buildworld without contrib. old top binary in contrib. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:54:02 -0000 peceka writes: > can someone tell me if there is any possibility to do make > buildworld without compiling all contrib/ directory? I don't need > for example bind9 in base, ipfilter, lukemftp(d). huff@> grep NO /etc/make.conf #NO_BOOT= true # do not build boot blocks and loader #NO_CVS= true # do not build CVS #NO_CXX= true # do not build C++ and friends #NO_BIND= true # do not build BIND NO_BIND_ETC= true # Do not install files to /etc/namedb NO_BLUETOOTH= true # do not build Bluetooth related stuff #NO_FORTRAN= true # do not build g77 and related libraries #NO_GDB= true # do not build GDB #NO_I4B= true # do not build isdn4bsd package #NO_IPFILTER= true # do not build IP Filter package #NO_PF= true # do not build PF firewall package #NO_AUTHPF= true # do not build and install authpf (setuid/gid) #NO_KERBEROS= true # do not build and install Kerberos 5 (KTH Heimdal) #NO_LPR= true # do not build lpr and related programs #NO_MAILWRAPPER=true # do not build the mailwrapper(8) MTA selector #NO_MODULES= true # do not build modules with the kernel #NO_OBJC= true # do not build Objective C support #NO_OPENSSH= true # do not build OpenSSH #NO_OPENSSL= true # do not build OpenSSL (implies NO_KERBEROS/NO_OPENSSH) #NO_SENDMAIL= true # do not build sendmail and related programs #NO_SHAREDOCS= true # do not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs #NO_TCSH= true # do not build and install /bin/csh (which is tcsh) #NO_VINUM= true # do not build Vinum utilities #NOCRYPT= true # do not build any crypto code #NOGAMES= true # do not build games (games/ subdir) #NOINFO= true # do not make or install info files #NOLIBC_R= true # do not build libc_r (re-entrant version of libc) #NOMAN= true # do not build manual pages NO_PROFILE= true # Avoid compiling profiled libraries #NOSHARE= true # do not go into the share subdir NO_LPR= true Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:57:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7B116A468 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:57:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB99213C457; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473B6F46.2070509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:57:26 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200711141543.27342.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200711141543.27342.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:57:25 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: >> my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one of its >> items it updated: >> >> [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- >> cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System >> >> but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: >> >> ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: >> => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. >> Reference: >> > c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try again. >> *** Error code 1 >> >> what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would build >> it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any port security >> settings on either one, so this is some curious behavior to me. >> >> thanks, > > another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for this, it says: > > Affects: > cups-base <1.3.3_1 > > but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. One or the other has either a stale portaudit database or ports tree. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:58:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6891B16A41B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E8D13C458 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:58:17 -0800 Message-ID: <473B6F78.2000101@riderway.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:58:16 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peceka References: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: 7.0, make buildworld without contrib. old top binary in contrib. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:58:18 -0000 peceka wrote: > Hi, > And why in /usr/src/contrib is very old top binary, 3.5beta12? On > http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop there is top-3.7beta2 where > ie. -c option, very helpful, works. B/C there have been substantial changes in both top and in the top in FreeBSD base system. I was actually messing around with updating this. Its at least a day or 3 of solid effort -- at least for lowly me. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 21:59:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417BC16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDAB13C45D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAELxnbV074643; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:59:49 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAELxmSH074642; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:59:48 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:59:48 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: peceka Message-ID: <20071114215948.GA92510@darklight.org.ru> References: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0, make buildworld without contrib. old top binary in contrib. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:59:53 -0000 On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 10:21:01PM +0100, peceka wrote: > Hi, > > can someone tell me if there is any possibility to do make buildworld > without compiling all contrib/ directory? I don't need for example bind9 > in base, ipfilter, lukemftp(d). Check src.conf(5) manpage. > And why in /usr/src/contrib is very old top binary, 3.5beta12? On > http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop there is top-3.7beta2 where > ie. -c option, very helpful, works. > > Regards, > p. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:06:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D5916A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AEA13C46A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:06:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) id lAEM6JJI010536; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:06:19 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:06:19 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: peceka Message-ID: <20071114220619.GE33712@dan.emsphone.com> References: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0, make buildworld without contrib. old top binary in contrib. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:06:22 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 14), peceka said: > Hi, > > can someone tell me if there is any possibility to do make buildworld > without compiling all contrib/ directory? I don't need for example bind9 > in base, ipfilter, lukemftp(d). > And why in /usr/src/contrib is very old top binary, 3.5beta12? On > http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop there is top-3.7beta2 where > ie. -c option, very helpful, works. FreeBSD's top recently got an "-a" option that seems to do the same thing. It might be nice if this were renamed to -c before 7.0 gets released, to make subsequent merges from unixtop easier. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:19:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D7DD16A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6412F13C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEMJWgR062173 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:19:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:19:42 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200711141543.27342.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <473B6F46.2070509@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <473B6F46.2070509@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:19:45 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:57:26 pm Kris Kennaway wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: > >> my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one of > >> its items it updated: > >> > >> [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- > >> cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System > >> > >> but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: > >> > >> ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: > >> => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > >> Reference: > >> >>716 c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try again. > >> *** Error code 1 > >> > >> what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would build > >> it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any port > >> security settings on either one, so this is some curious behavior to me. > >> > >> thanks, > > > > another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for this, it > > says: > > > > Affects: > > cups-base <1.3.3_1 > > > > but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. > > One or the other has either a stale portaudit database or ports tree. > > Kris what is the method for updating the portaudit database? both have had their ports trees updated today, the 7.0 box multiple times. thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:21:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0717416A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:21:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21B113C478 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:21:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so420226waf for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:21:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=D3qEsyxOJXpebBrG7MmHFk8AKWFXgtvMQvUjnyxcIrk=; b=oVXjfgRlik8TiEf9OlW/0IUeIpF+QQVTFjgTHY7+EsAidqMbMywkBCBdfDdncSMxLtO+m+LUCvKdkgObXo5it1pO/UZtqvPgWOLewJC7ZPWH+23N3LBtAWAET/aoYsYGV1WlodPzEz+Llx8yQpzzl63ubpSsaTB093BdMdRRc/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hK446F4GzPyQXQSRdUQ1ZT7Odch1Ov+MLSY9AedOmwrOYwEF/ccfMwvEQw0o0Ijvd61Tdjt6Qq7gDOE07HR9cOAgbvssimFRwjun05hplyh2E2iAxx/9X9O6tFs2Mr9JMxEv0BAlbWYch1b3UYvlXDiMpODZZSpj1d6ZoVedklo= Received: by 10.115.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr463492wai.1195078903972; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:21:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.254.9 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:21:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:21:43 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Socket programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:21:46 -0000 Hi, My question has to do with how someone would find out if a call to socket(2) actually produced a socket. I know that the API works, I've programmed with it many times, but is there a way to find out if 's' returned by socket(2) is actually valid in whatever kernel structure it is stored? I understand that I may have the process entirely mixed up. But it seems to me that the socket is somehow known to the kernel and I should be able to query the kernel somehow and discover if it is valid. Let me know if my question doesn't make sense as worded and I'll try to explain myself better. Another question related to this one, would someone in this list know where the source code is, in the system source tree, for the select call? Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:26:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCB416A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:26:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0CFE13C48E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Cjx51Y0071HzFnQ050GD00; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:15:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([98.199.18.87]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CmFk1Y00E1sjBEi0300000; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:15:45 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=-xr99TduLOEtMMSN4ocA:9 a=iVmSNBiYplRuaGtPjw2gQnC8GLoA:4 a=JcB9aHnUDh0A:10 From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:15:36 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> Subject: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:26:47 -0000 Since upgrading to 7.0-BETA2 most of my python based programs fail with Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped). It seems to be limited to gui based programs using Gtk or Qt. Any idea what's going on there? Hints on how to analyze the python.core files would be helpful too. David -- This message coming soon to an illegal DVD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:32:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD7516A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD71913C459 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so304371nzf for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:32:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Dj3dFNm/ncyyXScQkDeXx3vvNrMuRrLC5BLg9DMCApo=; b=XpeHlEPpZcq04V8y47LfamvvRNF0ETNDw5KK5waiaG1IbSgJglypo6znPFbS8peuhKR1xeWS4pMJMQnWrEDL2sEMfel3a3xeMWWO1FOvAxPJhqyszVFLQ/xQC7Pvz9cjmEebd2F0FsIYMbUl8igQLwjjFtp8ZoocJcURbxGXwD4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PpXatyEuyhzDc2MFOZAXAPnSI/7o9eLi5a1EJI4yggbDyAUNZSFCJQ6Wo66SeDxYk/NbwMMAz1Y3upk3Ys6A8mmlbEU2mG98kXj816lh0du/s9At6CSMnOoJuXSByIu+yBc3WuiT78Z6osbvwRK9jGzZl0LHMNC4F7k8B2Abdzk= Received: by 10.143.162.8 with SMTP id p8mr1549144wfo.1195079532420; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:32:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:32:12 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200711141543.27342.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <473B6F46.2070509@FreeBSD.org> <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:32:15 -0000 On 11/14/07, Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:57:26 pm Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: > > >> my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one of > > >> its items it updated: > > >> > > >> [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- > > >> cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System > > >> > > >> but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: > > >> > > >> ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: > > >> => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > > >> Reference: > > >> > >>716 c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try again. > > >> *** Error code 1 > > >> > > >> what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would build > > >> it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any port > > >> security settings on either one, so this is some curious behavior to me. > > >> > > >> thanks, > > > > > > another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for this, it > > > says: > > > > > > Affects: > > > cups-base <1.3.3_1 > > > > > > but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. > > > > One or the other has either a stale portaudit database or ports tree. > > > > Kris > > what is the method for updating the portaudit database? both have had their > ports trees updated today, the 7.0 box multiple times. > > thanks, > -- > Jonathan Horne > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org > freebsd@dfwlp.com I ran into a similar issue with cups - what does 'portaudit -aF' give on each machine? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:44:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29F316A46C for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-15.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-15.bluehost.com [69.89.18.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BDB3F13C43E for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:44:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 29619 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2007 22:44:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 22:44:44 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsQyS-0005MS-1N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:44:44 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAEMjIcb071039 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAEMjHJ7071038 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:17 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071114224517.GC70122@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20071111195501.46d58539@p4> <4739AC34.4060806@gmail.com> <4739C342.5080406@chrononomicon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4739C342.5080406@chrononomicon.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: One Laptop Per Child X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:44:45 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 10:31:14AM -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > > You're aware that by offering your opinion while chastising people for > doing likewise, you're contributing to the topic you're chastising, right? Actually . . . I thought the points were made well. I think perhaps you have a misconception about what was intended. My understanding is that the previous post was intended to chastise someone for an unthinking, reactionary response, and point out a more reasonable alternative, while I suspect yours was that the previous post was nothing more than a knee-jerk "Can't we all just get along?" with random opinions thrown in -- and you objected to the opinions part, but not the "Can't we all just get along?" I personally find vapid, insipid "Can't we all just get along?" statements odious and unproductive. I found the post to which you replied well reasoned and valuable, if a little abrasive. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] John Kenneth Galbraith: "If all else fails, immortality can always be assured through spectacular error." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:45:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CDB16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:45:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC2013C4D3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay1.lanl.gov (mailrelay1.lanl.gov [128.165.4.101]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAEMja1a023149 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:36 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay1.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAEMjZkY032242 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:35 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.10] (secretariat.lanl.gov [128.165.86.10]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208761F8002 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:29 -0700 (MST) From: James To: freebsd-questions Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratories Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:28 -0700 Message-Id: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:45:38 -0000 Hi folks, first, I know the subject line is a goldmine for jokes, but I couldn't think of a better way to phrase it. Ever since I moved to FreeBSD 7.0, the evolution mail client has become ridiculously slow for me. It takes two or three minutes to start up, right clicking on a folder takes several minutes to display a context menu etc My install process was as follows: 1. backup my home directory from a FreeBSD 6.2 install 2. Format the hard drive 3. Install 7.0 beta 1.5 4. csup sources and install beta 2.0 5. pkg_add xorg, gnome etc -- evolution was slow as a dog from this 6. portsnap fetch extract 7. follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating gnome I tried cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution && make deinstall && make reinstall, to see if something had simply gone wrong during the build, but nothing changed. Any ideas? James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 22:53:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66AA416A46D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2573413C465 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEMr5q2057119 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:53:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:53:14 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141653.15028.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:53:19 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 04:32:12 pm Kurt Buff wrote: > On 11/14/07, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:57:26 pm Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > >> my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one > > > >> of its items it updated: > > > >> > > > >> [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- > > > >> cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System > > > >> > > > >> but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: > > > >> > > > >> ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: > > > >> => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > > > >> Reference: > > > >> > > >>2514 716 c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try again. > > > >> *** Error code 1 > > > >> > > > >> what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would > > > >> build it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any > > > >> port security settings on either one, so this is some curious > > > >> behavior to me. > > > >> > > > >> thanks, > > > > > > > > another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for this, > > > > it says: > > > > > > > > Affects: > > > > cups-base <1.3.3_1 > > > > > > > > but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. > > > > > > One or the other has either a stale portaudit database or ports tree. > > > > > > Kris > > > > what is the method for updating the portaudit database? both have had > > their ports trees updated today, the 7.0 box multiple times. > > > > thanks, > > -- > > Jonathan Horne > > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org > > freebsd@dfwlp.com > > I ran into a similar issue with cups - what does 'portaudit -aF' give > on each machine? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" interesting, portaudit seems to be part of the 7.0 base system now. on my BETA2 box: [root@athena /usr/ports]# portaudit -aF auditfile.tbz 100% of 45 kB 100 kBps New database installed. Affected package: cups-base-1.3.3 Type of problem: xpdf -- multiple remote Stream.CC vulnerabilities. Reference: Affected package: cups-base-1.3.3 Type of problem: cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. Reference: 2 problem(s) in your installed packages found. You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately. portaudit is not installed on my 6.2 server, so i have no data to print for that one. thanks, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:02:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BE116A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A024D13C461 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:02:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so196160ele for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=y+9iQkIaWkBG1YuvUVVBYb9spFv3ahksMarF88ZmBj4=; b=LYVnIUiE2AOTBOVlPChH8KYgVzw1kve3PheoWam08Y+HEmJtrNzv0kV4lxpfMb7SGqjY0Og2NW216mbQME3wEVNa+Ust5Go5+ExkHvg9wBRcIFrJdwJ4DWzgI7RmIpV34mYRTEpmX0cMi0fSHEuph1hy6hEAbeYBl+YeVFPcJSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Zpm979cziQnDGApKxl0wMdJ1Poyx2G1WGy4XWHsO3d4xewXFBiC70Tu8ucz2BYm9NNUss3r6IkN4UNqlmNhKpTjJacNaSppcLHiG4Mk0cqVKVZJQzET+j45u8yOzzXSJj+eYvNEX633cS8Xn9/eNu2B35j/GT3Y4iKAQ+LN+9Zo= Received: by 10.142.106.18 with SMTP id e18mr2146018wfc.1195081372024; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.72.20 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:02:51 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Jonathan Horne" In-Reply-To: <200711141653.15028.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <200711141653.15028.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:02:54 -0000 On 11/14/07, Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 04:32:12 pm Kurt Buff wrote: > > On 11/14/07, Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:57:26 pm Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > > Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > > >> my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was one > > > > >> of its items it updated: > > > > >> > > > > >> [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- > > > > >> cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System > > > > >> > > > > >> but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: > > > > >> > > > > >> ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: > > > > >> => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > > > > >> Reference: > > > > >> > > > >>2514 716 c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try again. > > > > >> *** Error code 1 > > > > >> > > > > >> what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one would > > > > >> build it, and the other reject the same port? ive not tweaked any > > > > >> port security settings on either one, so this is some curious > > > > >> behavior to me. > > > > >> > > > > >> thanks, > > > > > > > > > > another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for this, > > > > > it says: > > > > > > > > > > Affects: > > > > > cups-base <1.3.3_1 > > > > > > > > > > but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. > > > > > > > > One or the other has either a stale portaudit database or ports tree. > > > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > what is the method for updating the portaudit database? both have had > > > their ports trees updated today, the 7.0 box multiple times. > > > > > > thanks, > > > -- > > > Jonathan Horne > > > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org > > > freebsd@dfwlp.com > > > > I ran into a similar issue with cups - what does 'portaudit -aF' give > > on each machine? > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > interesting, portaudit seems to be part of the 7.0 base system now. on my > BETA2 box: > > [root@athena /usr/ports]# portaudit -aF > auditfile.tbz 100% of 45 kB 100 kBps > New database installed. > Affected package: cups-base-1.3.3 > Type of problem: xpdf -- multiple remote Stream.CC vulnerabilities. > Reference: > > > Affected package: cups-base-1.3.3 > Type of problem: cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > Reference: > > > 2 problem(s) in your installed packages found. > > You are advised to update or deinstall the affected package(s) immediately. > > portaudit is not installed on my 6.2 server, so i have no data to print for > that one. > > thanks, > -- > Jonathan Horne > http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org > freebsd@dfwlp.com That lack of portaudit on your 6.2 system is probably why it doesn't care. I'll bet that if you had installed portaudit on your 6.2 system before trying to update, it wouldn't build either, until the port was updated, which happened a day or so ago. Further, I'll guess that the ports tree on your 7.0 system doesn't contain the updated port for cups - I don't have a 7.0 system on which to test, and don't have a sophisticated understanding of how all that works, but it's possible that the ports tree for 7.0 doesn't have the updates. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:06:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA6916A420 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mstaudinger@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C1313C474 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mstaudinger@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so3216938pyb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:05:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=VIf97DXs3ZjjhMlcUGF/8izg3sEBNiuqAVidrsedF9M=; b=ZSBbPCi/SAz7VQTdXSjpMM2WxR5vcHais3UqYjnQEOuKKMVu63t9+4sUzaYh5KJoS3QVpgsC6iJxcT/7Ju6Kf/x6czeEN3PL5orX7b9uqI6p2QOY0ibQ9YzUTjSzon9fniJeFGqSqyXL3S68Db3djGSMOWKFM8O/sfwenmjKY+U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=JkA3tqfJFdsjiQAxWuXEtNaYGfh80/3pGqlSGTEj2pQZjXC+3KDCBb1H6VD6/1+aACmPCS2nglQ/aDCI5Wp8Y/2oJx2pgRs43EXHhe6M3zyogFkY4FBxnFQ/UWyMkS3TwpegJX6XuWFoSeeVaE0Hg5DCd4DofvtWt2PlzUnpI7g= Received: by 10.35.82.16 with SMTP id j16mr9333007pyl.1195080047704; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:40:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.96.14 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:40:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:40:47 -0500 From: "Mark Staudinger" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:00 -0000 I wasn't sure if -questions or -current was the right group, but I searched both before posting. I'm trying to begin testing FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2, and I have a mixture of Intel and AMD-based machines that I work with. I'm using the i386 release. I've previously used FreeBSD-4.9R and 6.2R for i386 on these machines, but cannot get 7.0-Beta2 to work on the AMD machines. These are 100- and 1000-series dual-core Opteron CPUs. I've tried: Updating using source from 6.2-Release Installing from 7.0-Beta2 CD Installing from 7.0-CURRENT-200710-i386 snapshot CD I see a variety of errors, including: 1) BTX Halted 2) errors when running /bin/sh from /etc/rc /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Undefined symbol "opterr" referenced from COPY relocation in sh /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Invalid file format (on multiple binaries) various other "undefined symbol" messages signal 10, signal 11 on multiple binaries I've tried both uni-processor and SMP kernels, as well as the GENERIC kernel supplied with the base installation. I've also tried disabling ACPI. There's no "one error condition" that I can identify, it seems to change each time I boot, it's quite erratic, and most errors don't result in a panic. I have of course tested multiple pieces of hardware, and I've also performed the install on an Intel-based machine and then moved the disk to the AMD. In all cases, I encountered failures immediately upon running a few small commands (assuming the login prompt even appears). Has anyone successfully used 7.0-Beta2 for i386 on AMD Opteron-based platform? Any suggestions for tracking down the problem? Thanks! -ms From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:06:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC9916A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-76.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-76.bluehost.com [69.89.22.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 673DE13C459 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 25604 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2007 23:06:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 23:06:51 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsRJq-0002H4-2q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:06:51 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAEN7Ors071150 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:07:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAEN7Nuu071149 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:07:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:07:23 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:06:52 -0000 On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:23:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > > This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a > regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed to > set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the > decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a > dependency. Ugh. As far as I'm concerned, everything that pertains to system configuration should always be human-readable and editable without special tools. Trying to insulate things from human ability to directly manipulate them tends to lead to rapidly increasing difficulty of debugging configurations. > > I left out one last point> there will be a reject list: a list of port > names or regular expression patters, of ports that can't be installed > under any circumstances. I *love* this idea! /me starts cobbling together a list of things that start with 'k' or 'g', preparing for that future date when this is possible. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] John Kenneth Galbraith: "If all else fails, immortality can always be assured through spectacular error." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:10:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED0B16A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:10:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BE413C442; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:10:26 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Staudinger References: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:10:26 -0000 Mark Staudinger wrote: > I wasn't sure if -questions or -current was the right group, but I searched > both before posting. > > I'm trying to begin testing FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2, and I have a mixture of Intel > and AMD-based machines that I work with. > I'm using the i386 release. I've previously used FreeBSD-4.9R and 6.2R for > i386 on these machines, but cannot get > 7.0-Beta2 to work on the AMD machines. These are 100- and 1000-series > dual-core Opteron CPUs. > > I've tried: > Updating using source from 6.2-Release > Installing from 7.0-Beta2 CD > Installing from 7.0-CURRENT-200710-i386 snapshot CD > > I see a variety of errors, including: > > 1) BTX Halted > > 2) errors when running /bin/sh from /etc/rc > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Undefined symbol "opterr" referenced from COPY > relocation in sh > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Invalid file format (on multiple binaries) > various other "undefined symbol" messages > signal 10, signal 11 on multiple binaries Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you verify the MD5 checksum on the ISO images? > Has anyone successfully used 7.0-Beta2 for i386 on AMD Opteron-based > platform? Any suggestions for tracking > down the problem? Yes, it works on mine. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:11:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC7F16A46D for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [204.118.6.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16E0113C44B for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:11:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by smtp.owt.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.8) with ESMTP id lAEN0MjM004707; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:00:23 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:00:35 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141539.47515.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <473B6F46.2070509@FreeBSD.org> <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200711141619.42714.freebsd@dfwlp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711141500.36063.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Jonathan Horne Subject: Re: cups builds on one, but rejected by another? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:11:15 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:57:26 pm Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Jonathan Horne wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:39:47 pm Jonathan Horne wrote: > > >> my jails server (6.2-p8) just ran portupgrade fine, and cups was > > >> one of its items it updated: > > >> > > >> [root@canopus ~]# pkg_info | grep cups- > > >> cups-base-1.3.3_2 Common UNIX Printing System > > >> > > >> but my 7.0-b2 desktop, refuses to build the same package: > > >> > > >> ===> cups-base-1.3.3_2 has known vulnerabilities: > > >> => cups -- off-by-one buffer overflow. > > >> Reference: > > >> > >>001c2514 716 c.html> => Please update your ports tree and try > > >> again. *** Error code 1 > > >> > > >> what would be the differences between the 2 systems that one > > >> would build it, and the other reject the same port? ive not > > >> tweaked any port security settings on either one, so this is > > >> some curious behavior to me. > > >> > > >> thanks, > > > > > > another interesting thing, when you read the portaudit page for > > > this, it says: > > > > > > Affects: > > > cups-base <1.3.3_1 > > > > > > but yet 1.3.3_2 still is rejected. > > > > One or the other has either a stale portaudit database or ports > > tree. > > > > Kris > > what is the method for updating the portaudit database? both have > had their ports trees updated today, the 7.0 box multiple times. > > thanks, Portaudit was updated w/r to cups-base at 2019 UDT 14 Nov man portaudit portaudit -Fa will update and check. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://www.soyandina.com/ "I am Andean project". http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:15:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979D916A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DED913C478 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAENFCOo096044; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:15:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071114165954.024c5d90@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:14:56 -0600 To: "Andrew Falanga" , "User Questions" From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com > References: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Socket programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:15:31 -0000 At 04:21 PM 11/14/2007, Andrew Falanga wrote: >Hi, > >My question has to do with how someone would find out if a call to socket(2) >actually produced a socket. I know that the API works, I've programmed with >it many times, but is there a way to find out if 's' returned by socket(2) >is actually valid in whatever kernel structure it is stored? I understand >that I may have the process entirely mixed up. But it seems to me that the >socket is somehow known to the kernel and I should be able to query the >kernel somehow and discover if it is valid. > >Let me know if my question doesn't make sense as worded and I'll try to >explain myself better. Another question related to this one, would someone >in this list know where the source code is, in the system source tree, for >the select call? > >Thanks, >Andy Andy, It's been a while since I did socket programing, but the easiest test is to use a client application to contact the server side socket. Just be sure if you want to connect from another host you set the domain correctly in your socket call for a local socket on the same host or an internet socket to contact from another host. With internet sockets, these get added to the TCP stack, and their are kernel structures created too I'm sure, but I have no idea how to find those. Netstat will show sockets in use though. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:15:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AE816A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474FF13C4E3 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so478214uge for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:15:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vXMLIv5BTIyxa22hbKGsUJt+DOJ7BNopVjWTVoVvZRM=; b=A1ByjR3cBKxjYIBz3jVgW64DfmauVp2gqH2nutUHLU/hBdFfAZKxndgHg+c9ZMLOVJZAvoTOzBIgRHhYYIRBagQwO8Ai1D2BVSDaO5BP9Z0WfPYoFu+O4VNLkbljr0VbkyFX9+MAQuZoxyy79RX4MsFY6oQ/QyjB/Hvl9NltSpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HIF6VrTX2aElrKqNHTug+DWp6NOruFmJ+oW3RDggGSrGUe+SCQjDWvkgygZXibKAmklyTbWyH121UZ+KjIuzQRgsCBviG0Pgf8muQjANyLDFSblhtunzu72dcb6+3E8ftMmRGDGdKE8KezOislvBCr7HARfPyhDlWBkJibBih6w= Received: by 10.70.18.11 with SMTP id 11mr20066wxr.1195082146395; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o29sm1867935elf.2007.11.14.15.15.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:15:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473B819A.1000802@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:15:38 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Staudinger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:15:49 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you > verify the MD5 checksum on the ISO images? This is completely off topic but MD5 is not secure: http://www.infosec.sdu.edu.cn/paper/md5-attack.pdf Similar weaknesses have been found in the entire MD/SHA families. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHO4GaJ9+1V27SttsRAvb2AJ9puUWSDVvxGGOLfTaR9X7cpLW6IwCcDk2w 02p+A6JE7A/f7midhn+wPSc= =G9j/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:21:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAC216A41A for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:21:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (pointyhat.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::2b]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090CE13C44B; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:21:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473B830D.9060203@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:21:49 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> <473B819A.1000802@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <473B819A.1000802@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mark Staudinger , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:21:49 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > >> Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you >> verify the MD5 checksum on the ISO images? > This is completely off topic but MD5 is not secure: > http://www.infosec.sdu.edu.cn/paper/md5-attack.pdf > > Similar weaknesses have been found in the entire MD/SHA families. Uh, thanks, I guess. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:54:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2686B16A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BC413C455 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4db2e1a4.pool.einsundeins.de [77.178.225.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CFDA44529 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:48:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:55:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711150055.27132.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Socket programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:54:37 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 23:21:43 schrieb Andrew Falanga: > My question has to do with how someone would find out if a call to > socket(2) actually produced a socket. I know that the API works, I've > programmed with it many times, but is there a way to find out if 's' > returned by socket(2) is actually valid in whatever kernel structure it is > stored? I understand that I may have the process entirely mixed up. But > it seems to me that the socket is somehow known to the kernel and I should > be able to query the kernel somehow and discover if it is valid. > > Let me know if my question doesn't make sense as worded and I'll try to > explain myself better. Another question related to this one, would someone > in this list know where the source code is, in the system source tree, for > the select call? Sorry to say that, but it doesn't make sense as it's worded. The descriptor returned by socket(2) is valid if it's >= 0 (that's the API contract for the socket(2) C function), and remains valid until the program ends (unless you close the descriptor with close(2) before your program terminates, in which case the descriptor first becomes invalid [i.e. EBADF], but might be reused later by another call to socket(2) or open(2), in which case the descriptor again becomes valid but is associated with another object and possibly also with another type of object [file/pipe vs. socket]). That's the API-contract that's specified in POSIX, and to which FreeBSD sticks. As an application programmer, you can (and have to) rely on this behaviour; any derivation from this is a kernel bug, and should be posted as a PR. Generally, the easy way to query whether a descriptor is valid is by simply calling the respective function you want to execute on it, and if that returns errno = EBADF, then you know that the descriptor is invalid. In case it returns something else, it just tells you that the descriptor is valid, but doesn't tell you whether the descriptor is really associated with what you think it is. But if you follow the flow of control in the program, you should be able to make out where the descriptor is created and how it's modified, and thus be able to deduce (under the condition that the kernel sticks to POSIX specifications) what the state of the descriptor is at the time of usage. Hope this helps! -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 23:57:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112CC16A419 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93FF13C457 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4db2e1a4.pool.einsundeins.de [77.178.225.164]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BDDA44529 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:50:56 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:57:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711150057.52571.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:57:02 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 23:15:36 schrieb David J Brooks: > Since upgrading to 7.0-BETA2 most of my python based programs fail with > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped). It seems to be limited to gui based > programs using Gtk or Qt. Any idea what's going on there? Hints on how to > analyze the python.core files would be helpful too. Easy way to get info from the backtrace: gdb /usr/local/bin/python /python.core Then, enter the "back" command in the post-mortem debugging session and post the output here. Someone (maybe even me) should be able to give you a hint where to look further from there. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 00:00:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595DF16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFDB213C459 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:00:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (cran1.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E6F30114; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:00:54 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <473B8C23.3000305@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:00:35 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Ragona References: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20071114165954.024c5d90@mail.computinginnovations.com> In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20071114165954.024c5d90@mail.computinginnovations.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: User Questions , Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Socket programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:00:57 -0000 Derek Ragona wrote: > With internet sockets, these get added to the TCP stack, and their are > kernel structures created too I'm sure, but I have no idea how to find > those. Netstat will show sockets in use though. > sockstat(1) might also be useful as it shows information about what program opened the connection and the file descriptor number of the socket. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 01:09:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC4E16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14AA13C48E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup245.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.245]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAF1966m022451 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:09:32 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAF195f4002457; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:09:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAF192OR002456; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:09:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:09:02 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Mike Fahey Message-ID: <20071115010902.GE1995@kobe.laptop> References: <473B3CC6.6090609@enter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473B3CC6.6090609@enter.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.938, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gcc Problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:09:51 -0000 On 2007-11-14 13:21, Mike Fahey wrote: > > Freebsd4.10 > > When I try to compile any problem I get the following error. Any > suggestions? Thanks. > > helpers/dummy.c:1: syntax error before `/' > > Here is a sample trying to build any port. > > make > ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.4 - > found > ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.8.8 - found > ===> wget-1.10.2_1 depends on shared library: intl - found > ===> Configuring for wget-1.10.2_1 > configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target > configure: configuring for GNU Wget 1.10.2 > checking build system type... i386-portbld-freebsd4.10 > checking host system type... i386-portbld-freebsd4.10 > checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... eval: 1: Syntax error: "(" > unexpected > ===> Script "configure" failed unexpectedly. > Please report the problem to vd@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach the > "/usr/ports/ftp/wget/work/wget-1.10.2/config.log" including the output > of the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to > provide an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an > `ls /var/db/pkg`). > *** Error code 1 The error message points to files which you can skim through, to see more error messages. Did you look at these? If yes, can you attach a copy and send it to this list and the maintainer email address listed above? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 01:13:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0F216A46E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:13:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB2913C46B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup245.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.245]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAF1D28I022576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:13:13 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAF1D1TL002525; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:13:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAF1Cx35002524; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:12:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:12:58 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Andrew Falanga Message-ID: <20071115011258.GF1995@kobe.laptop> References: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.938, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Socket programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:13:32 -0000 On 2007-11-14 15:21, Andrew Falanga wrote: > Hi, > My question has to do with how someone would find out if a call to > socket(2) actually produced a socket. I know that the API works, I've > programmed with it many times, but is there a way to find out if 's' > returned by socket(2) is actually valid in whatever kernel structure > it is stored? I understand that I may have the process entirely mixed > up. But it seems to me that the socket is somehow known to the kernel > and I should be able to query the kernel somehow and discover if it is > valid. The socket() system call returns -1 when it fails. Isn't that sufficient? If not, why? What ``extra'' information would you expect from the kernel when socket() fails? > Let me know if my question doesn't make sense as worded and I'll try > to explain myself better. Another question related to this one, would > someone in this list know where the source code is, in the system > source tree, for the select call? Look for kern_select() in `/usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 01:17:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3155916A468 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellymartin@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C606113C50B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:17:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kellymartin@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so346183rvb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:17:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VPjNQhwOeyi3Ij+3Nhsh3OlrPIUPA3hzLRjv6TuMxlE=; b=sadbjUmr0SXKObk9+b7cj0kK8HQ9GqNFUf5cdZrtBePeDOKyoGN4tEiIHDwr1iPUVGHNr+oborGtDbPqZ8DTNWBSGfbqQV6PwHjFydCXbpXcIqCeyH17iNB6/JFPn8XijH63oHjeGRObLjAjIM4diSdG+ac5qILE0So7e6XS+Os= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=N4isSd05xk8ExZUAiWTskBH6Yu96Hp9HlP50G30TLaP+9FNUwp9i0D1OQdSKhvMI7vSu4nUf9qs6Y8SRqYLVrh2osalW80eK7u5/1uF6Un4vbCSRoMI4On7vZNvOpZ7TdEUZ/VLLQt/+iZRl7y1of7tFRJ6VxeKN87HQCxiyBwE= Received: by 10.141.14.14 with SMTP id r14mr42529rvi.1195089465255; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.142.10 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:17:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1338880b0711141717m672395a6o6cb97a2dc39e6ef3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:17:45 -0700 From: "Kelly Martin" To: Rob In-Reply-To: <4734B913.1030805@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1338880b0711090854n1294d607u8bb0c37006f02bb9@mail.gmail.com> <4734B913.1030805@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: recurring kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:17:46 -0000 On Nov 9, 2007 12:46 PM, Rob wrote: > Kelly Martin wrote: > > I'm getting daily kernel panics. The server was running fine for about > > a month, the only changes I've made recently have been to update all > > my ports. It's running on older i386 hardware, no special devices > > Like the others said -- I'd seriously suspect hardware problems. Memory is a good place to start. Try MemTest: http://www.memtest86.com/ Thanks to everyone for the help. It was indeed a hardware failure, a power supply issue. With so many people using, looking at or working on the FreeBSD kernel, I knew it had to be something other than just my applications causing a kernel panic. thanks, kelly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 01:25:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A8416A420 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052BE13C4C5 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=OhH3D2O8w1FsvQsf6bfR7fAYl2pezfCE46kPKE16x7twY7nPf2myW4BHD4Wz3A5G; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.189.216.204] (helo=Thing) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IsTHu-00045X-7Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:12:58 -0500 Message-ID: <018801c82724$a9b77e60$29a5a8c0@Thing> From: "jdow" To: References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com><64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com><47372644.4060201@networktest.com><20071112161416.GB98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47388CCE.6080201@networktest.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:12:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120f41d42199d67ba1ec3c9a37cacc786b78284c0d70cdf2f37350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.189.216.204 Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:25:50 -0000 From: "David Newman" > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > On 11/12/07 8:14 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > >> An update: After doing what you suggest (leaving in the "good" disk, >> adding a new disk, RAID rebuilding) I still got soft write errors -- >> with *either one* of the disks I tried. >> >> Then I tried putting both disks in an identical server and they came up >> fine, no read or write errors. >> >> Ergo, the bad RAID controller is bad and the disks may be OK. >> >>> Probably not. >>> Generally, if the RAID controller is bad, you will see errors >>> all over and not it just one place, tho I suppose it is possible. >>> Check and see what it reports as error locations and see if they >>> move around any. > > Jerry, thanks for your response. > > After 36 hours of running the same disks in a different, identical > machine there hasn't been a single read or write error. I'm hardly a > storage expert but from the evidence I have I'm inclined to believe the > root cause was a bad RAID controller and not failed disks. > > I'm aware of CLI tools to monitor 3Ware SATA RAID controllers. Anyone > know if there are similar tools for HP/Compaq SCSI RAID controllers? Bad cable? Iffy power supply? Examine each step the data and power take for possible hitches. You might even have an overheated and weakened power connector on a drive. If it's not making solid contact it can give you headaches. {^_^} From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 01:26:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF9016A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A0D13C4C6 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WCxW4SQkseNNGYMQl6fNgJME4+zVL5R2yF3vPQohS9+crdC+hh7JcZX2mKAW9bPg; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [216.189.216.204] (helo=Thing) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1IsTL3-0004tQ-85 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: <018c01c82725$1dfcd040$29a5a8c0@Thing> From: "jdow" To: References: <4736593E.1090905@networktest.com><64c038660711102109x2ea186afjdd219292d8eed700@mail.gmail.com><47372644.4060201@networktest.com><20071112161416.GB98697@gizmo.acns.msu.edu><47388CCE.6080201@networktest.com> <20071112175351.GA99195@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:16:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: bb89ecdb26a8f9f24d2b10475b571120f41d42199d67ba1e42681cea56904af972fee374a2a11089350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 216.189.216.204 Subject: Re: dealing with a failing drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:26:21 -0000 From: "Jerry McAllister" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 12:53 > On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 09:26:38AM -0800, David Newman wrote: > >> On 11/12/07 8:14 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: >> >> > An update: After doing what you suggest (leaving in the "good" disk, >> > adding a new disk, RAID rebuilding) I still got soft write errors -- >> > with *either one* of the disks I tried. >> > >> > Then I tried putting both disks in an identical server and they came up >> > fine, no read or write errors. >> > >> > Ergo, the bad RAID controller is bad and the disks may be OK. >> > >> >> Probably not. >> >> Generally, if the RAID controller is bad, you will see errors >> >> all over and not it just one place, tho I suppose it is possible. >> >> Check and see what it reports as error locations and see if they >> >> move around any. >> >> Jerry, thanks for your response. >> >> After 36 hours of running the same disks in a different, identical >> machine there hasn't been a single read or write error. I'm hardly a >> storage expert but from the evidence I have I'm inclined to believe the >> root cause was a bad RAID controller and not failed disks. > > That is not much proof. > The different machine would probably be accessing the disks in > a different way, either slightly different positioning or using > different space. Also, 36 hours is not really much time. Dn, I have had a Promise controller that was bad. I kept getting errors at one specific location on two disks out of three on a RAID 5. The system continued to operate. When I finally spent the time to nail it down to the controller I found the Promise people more than anxious to get the beast for a postmortem. It had been bad for me from day one. It would take about a week to a month for the problem to appear. After the 6th disk showing the problem at the same block number the coin dropped in my sometimes overly slow mind. {^_-} Joanne From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 01:50:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3056016A41B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:50:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC8A13C45A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s42so321326rnb for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:50:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=6PQNF4L5WU/bEXApg3Yrd53HXNAVc23ea1Yav9sotw0=; b=gstJ4qB7zo7FaEXPMPC9c8U2j6BuiEBlm1kcyOlY7S7zZ+CTf631SYUT/iWtuSCbBlSKqDT1lbOS8hdfojjjeaPBIC/lk67KGZpLafaXUsXgwQlsWXP2wIFK/L9SGMqHlm0eq88L0W2hqZAHksaC8Q3KTOyDFXbzlTsHW0IK0Oc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=e4xkHsCDX+YmV33GInxQGX8UmhGt+b2KZQQ1dpoOrLsnfGRb5bGMSDL+ehiv4honemTAqPRVax0OsvJbLuXZB9hTSwHWPKS+vVQ8rGq2kdNNrfsVjPq58FUzB5j7Si7MOoMYMz8rB/3AuMlUy3JBzBwkoV7tbFYZqtJVa7oxU9c= Received: by 10.70.42.9 with SMTP id p9mr196821wxp.1195091448794; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:50:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c29sm2061172elf.2007.11.14.17.50.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:50:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473BA5F0.2000501@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:50:40 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: acroread prints from standalone app but not from browser plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:50:50 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 acroread7 prints from standalong app but not from firefox plugin; firefox prints web pages fine. Any ideas? FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Nov 12 13:08:23 EST 2007 aryeh@monster:/usr/obj/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHO6XwJ9+1V27SttsRAhnCAJ4+fmlwT0CI5DEDLZJkwZwxb9JI8ACfb3yZ dBdi+aWftWQCBM9ztd+GTmw= =WaIN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 02:26:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A0816A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477FC13C43E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so492461waf for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:26:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=vCHxk++jC/p8OR4uDVZjEdaOQ0KFQtt3G/3zc7HPK9k=; b=CVOCBVlPeQVFC8JC8y0CWLTrNkdg6WsmMhIzAnmqrCl7XlyTl76rZ0Z6QeqeLh/qi1wocwkwXySpgkL+Yx82i9SNMAOQQB11D0bWlvj2hi4OVZFLVpO8oGsuEyolHPMItp4+sT769ddHHnzgxgya2EKFJyeg+TdZ1tXgYyaoiJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kyE4iUgEDs1BmvaYOhjNsr61N1pVOpPALIhzMIqq4fe3uhKN83cmeVOwBW4zF7C1wnaUbLUOEwNakchZN20j1aE8Px9rPY16musO9BrtKSWl7Kr3RBSdOdlwY3gMWdoXm5D3L6b55PmideTTVJePX0EFNZ0R6aN5UdzXm+CUJC0= Received: by 10.114.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr153157waa.1195093566379; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.254.9 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:26:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540711141826u6c4e1c36h3baaea0e079a46da@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:26:06 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" In-Reply-To: <200711150055.27132.wundram@beenic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <340a29540711141421tda33970q79f85533fb5ba725@mail.gmail.com> <200711150055.27132.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Socket programming question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:26:07 -0000 On Nov 14, 2007 4:55 PM, Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > > Sorry to say that, but it doesn't make sense as it's worded. The > descriptor > returned by socket(2) is valid if it's >= 0 (that's the API contract for > the > socket(2) C function), and remains valid until the program ends (unless > you > close the descriptor with close(2) before your program terminates, in > which > case the descriptor first becomes invalid [i.e. EBADF], but might be > reused > later by another call to socket(2) or open(2), in which case the > descriptor > again becomes valid but is associated with another object and possibly > also > with another type of object [file/pipe vs. socket]). > > That's the API-contract that's specified in POSIX, and to which FreeBSD > sticks. As an application programmer, you can (and have to) rely on this > behaviour; any derivation from this is a kernel bug, and should be posted > as > a PR. > > Generally, the easy way to query whether a descriptor is valid is by > simply > calling the respective function you want to execute on it, and if that > returns errno = EBADF, then you know that the descriptor is invalid. In > case > it returns something else, it just tells you that the descriptor is valid, > but doesn't tell you whether the descriptor is really associated with what > you think it is. But if you follow the flow of control in the program, you > should be able to make out where the descriptor is created and how it's > modified, and thus be able to deduce (under the condition that the kernel > sticks to POSIX specifications) what the state of the descriptor is at the > time of usage. > Thanks. Actually, this suggestion of yours I think does answer my question. I was thinking that in my testing program, I would be using something like that after thinking things through. Thanks again. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 03:01:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF6516A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:01:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E3CF13C457 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 30626 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2007 21:01:37 -0600 Received: from 124-170-87-111.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.87.111) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Nov 2007 21:01:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:01:29 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Message-ID: <20071115140129.3fc51393@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <200711150057.52571.wundram@beenic.net> References: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> <200711150057.52571.wundram@beenic.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:01:38 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:57:52 +0100 "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 23:15:36 schrieb David J Brooks: > > Since upgrading to 7.0-BETA2 most of my python based programs fail with > > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped). It seems to be limited to gui based > > programs using Gtk or Qt. Any idea what's going on there? Hints on how to > > analyze the python.core files would be helpful too. > > Easy way to get info from the backtrace: > > gdb /usr/local/bin/python /python.core > > Then, enter the "back" command in the post-mortem debugging session and post > the output here. Someone (maybe even me) should be able to give you a hint > where to look further from there. same happens here with castpodder (which is a gtk/python tool), but i havent been able to find a .core . I need to look into a ktrace and step into the code with pydev in eclipse. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome You shouldn't verb words. I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 03:07:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E26D16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6829D13C447 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAF37TCk004611; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:07:31 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:07:26 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> <200711150057.52571.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200711150057.52571.wundram@beenic.net> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711142107.27718.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" Subject: Re: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:07:36 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 05:57:52 pm Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 14. November 2007 23:15:36 schrieb David J Brooks: > > Since upgrading to 7.0-BETA2 most of my python based programs fail with > > Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped). It seems to be limited to gui based > > programs using Gtk or Qt. Any idea what's going on there? Hints on how to > > analyze the python.core files would be helpful too. > > Easy way to get info from the backtrace: > > gdb /usr/local/bin/python /python.core > > Then, enter the "back" command in the post-mortem debugging session and > post the output here. Someone (maybe even me) should be able to give you a > hint where to look further from there. Ok. Here's what gdb shows for a crash from Gramps (built with py-Gtk2): (gdb) back #0 0x29ea37fd in delete_aspell_speller () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #1 0x29e03b3d in gtkspell_set_language_internal () from /usr/local/lib/libgtkspell.so.0 #2 0x29e04084 in gtkspell_set_language () from /usr/local/lib/libgtkspell.so.0 #3 0x29af90ae in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtkspell.so #4 0x29cdf180 in ?? () #5 0x29d28ff4 in ?? () #6 0x00000000 in ?? () #7 0xbfbf5218 in ?? () #8 0xbfbf5220 in ?? () #9 0x29d284cc in ?? () #10 0x29af9681 in ?? () from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtkspell.so #11 0x00000000 in ?? () #12 0x29d28ff4 in ?? () #13 0x28308080 in ?? () #14 0xbfbf53c8 in ?? () #15 0x080b131a in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) (gdb) For comparison, this is what a crash from eric4 (built with PyQt4) looks like: (gdb) back #0 0x29224448 in typeinfo name for sipQApplication () from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so #1 0x29595531 in sm_performSaveYourself () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #2 0x295956a1 in sm_saveYourselfCallback () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #3 0x29aed10b in _SmcProcessMessage () from /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 #4 0x29afffa3 in IceProcessMessages () from /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 #5 0x2958f5c8 in QSmSocketReceiver::socketActivated () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #6 0x2958f62f in QSmSocketReceiver::qt_metacall () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #7 0x287bc15f in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #8 0x287bc6d2 in QMetaObject::activate () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #9 0x287d8b33 in QSocketNotifier::activated () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #10 0x287c1e1f in QSocketNotifier::event () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #11 0x295467bd in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #12 0x2954c8fe in QApplication::notify () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #13 0x291b4a13 in sipQApplication::notify () from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so #14 0x287ab07b in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #15 0x287ccaf3 in socketNotifierSourceDispatch () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #16 0x28852886 in g_main_context_dispatch () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #17 0x28855c02 in g_main_context_check () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #18 0x28856185 in g_main_context_iteration () from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #19 0x287ccf78 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #20 0x295bd965 in QGuiEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #21 0x287aac31 in QCoreApplication::processEvents () from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #22 0x28623966 in meth_QCoreApplication_processEvents () from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtCore.so #23 0x080b131a in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () #24 0x080b1fab in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () #25 0x080b1fab in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () #26 0x080b2919 in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () #27 0x080b2a67 in PyEval_EvalCode () #28 0x080c9fc6 in Py_CompileString () #29 0x080ca070 in PyRun_FileExFlags () #30 0x080cb569 in PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags () #31 0x08056ef1 in Py_Main () #32 0x080563b5 in main () (gdb) I tried tovidgui (build with Tkinter) and it did not crash. David -- Federal law prohibits deleting this message. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 06:26:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2F816A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0472F13C458 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:26:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819B8ADC4A9C; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:26:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.169.121] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IsYBH-0005km-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:26:27 +0100 Message-ID: <473BE677.6090101@web.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:25:59 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: peceka References: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <473B66BD.1000009@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Vdi5ITkoDc+TlcEnCFawxsznpAyv7S2x5T1p+ wJ6TBarsjBPLy6M9WegkPMbAv9zeBz5rKPRn163nPnIx3f28jT Wzg213pyM= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.0, make buildworld without contrib. old top binary in contrib. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:26:59 -0000 peceka schrieb: > Hi, > > can someone tell me if there is any possibility to do make buildworld > without compiling all contrib/ directory? I don't need for example bind9 > in base, ipfilter, lukemftp(d). > Look into the Make and check out the remianing targets.... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 08:30:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0FD616A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F81913C46E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fmatthew5876@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so414525nzf for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:30:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aftlHcbEgj6o3KbaeiqZMljA6Kn1rjZ8HDoQPsFmUds=; b=nv3NuQsodTP+PTqbd0puPa7Lmyub+urGfaPX5qB58D3MVBXufK65+uCkRKdMbzPASmU52iATCCpGq3INdf/BKlkmrZn9C2JrTiWOXsU0Pv43PWgIQCXc2ZvE9gMnfGMwZh2XUcWGFwqUuoo8UhbLnaPE3cnp2cDvH2eNPv/1qfE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Sab6DTVm4ts0sdgNi9zgG6kjBlsu6ufvqGl9G2/SetARGV3FPBGF1JxvERq3ynRKwK+2ouz9lOTsU3R/Hl6CIaFWcCfKR3Xqe8KDJOyiBj4E0LLgRauHhCScS1p+gJkjLlBm3kS+dCwrMhdisxESM3mRiJiL/AL9sy225GveI+Q= Received: by 10.142.128.6 with SMTP id a6mr41864wfd.1195115399414; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.164.20 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:29:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3eca10930711150029m5c6b0abbm4f7ff448d70c4664@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 03:29:59 -0500 From: "Matt Fioravante" To: "Lars Eighner" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071114133802.M51192@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> <20071114133802.M51192@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> Cc: Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:04 -0000 Well I was just comtemplating the idea of setting up a freebsd load at my workplace. They already run linux and solaris and because of bad decisions in the past, they mount their afs shares on /usr/local. So I would have to install ports in /usr or some other prefix. On Nov 14, 2007 2:38 PM, Lars Eighner wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Matt Fioravante wrote: > > > Would there be any negative ramifications to installing ports in /usr > > instead of /usr/local? Like could they potentially clobber system > > binaries and other files or is this pretty safe to do? > > I know of a few name conflicts that can occur in certain circumstances (such > as the system lpr and hplip lpr). You may be lucky and avoid these. It is > also possible that some ports will not find one another or that wrong > locations may be hard coded --- this should not happen, but there should not > be any broken ports, unfetchable sources and so forth. > > Such an arrangement would require extreme vigilance, beyond what the ports > management software can do (if they can be persuaded to work at all in such > an environment). I cannot think of a good reason to do what you want to do, > but you ought to be very clear that somehow there is no other way and be > prepared for the consequences. > > -- > Lars Eighner > http://www.larseighner.com/index.html > 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 08:53:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C211416A421; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toni@it-austria.net) Received: from zep2.it-austria.net (zep2.it-austria.net [213.150.1.118]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E90313C46A; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from toni@it-austria.net) Received: from skunk.user.lan.at (unknown [10.24.28.114]) by zep2.it-austria.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5792433DBA; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:34:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from skunk.user.lan.at (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by skunk.user.lan.at (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAF8YH1u034584; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:34:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from toni@it-austria.net) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:34:17 +0100 Message-ID: <861warzz3q.wl%pinhead@skunk.user.lan.at> From: Toni Schmidbauer To: cokane@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <473B5E77.1020309@FreeBSD.org> References: <13520.99166.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <473B5E77.1020309@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust Emacs Organization: stderror.at X-WWW-Home-Page: http://stderror.at X-PGP-Fingerprint: 53F2 28AE 8070 83E0 AFEC 0ABC BBF9 A34A 3ED1 3287 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Dino Vliet , freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Xorg impossible problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:53:46 -0000 At Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:45:43 -0500, Coleman Kane wrote: > What version of pixman do you have installed? I experienced the same > problems under pixman 0.9.5, and found that they are fixed in 0.9.6. > FreeBSD has since updated the related port to match the new version. pixman-0.9.5_2 Low-level pixel manipulation library will try updating to 0.9.6, i will report if things get better here. thanks toni -- If you understand what you're doing, you're | toni at stderror dot at not learning anything. | Toni Schmidbauer -- Anonymous | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 09:06:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A6E16A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C6613C478 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.37] (a89-182-174-138.net-htp.de [89.182.174.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937EAA44529; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:00:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: David J Brooks Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:07:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> <200711150057.52571.wundram@beenic.net> <200711142107.27718.freysman@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200711142107.27718.freysman@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711151007.03334.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:06:11 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 04:07:26 schrieb David J Brooks: > Ok. Here's what gdb shows for a crash from Gramps (built with py-Gtk2): > > (gdb) back > #0 0x29ea37fd in delete_aspell_speller () from > /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #1 0x29e03b3d in > gtkspell_set_language_internal () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtkspell.so.0 > #2 0x29e04084 in gtkspell_set_language () > from /usr/local/lib/libgtkspell.so.0 > #3 0x29af90ae in ?? () > from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtkspell.so > #4 0x29cdf180 in ?? () > #5 0x29d28ff4 in ?? () > #6 0x00000000 in ?? () > #7 0xbfbf5218 in ?? () > #8 0xbfbf5220 in ?? () > #9 0x29d284cc in ?? () > #10 0x29af9681 in ?? () > from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtkspell.so > #11 0x00000000 in ?? () > #12 0x29d28ff4 in ?? () > #13 0x28308080 in ?? () > #14 0xbfbf53c8 in ?? () > #15 0x080b131a in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () > Previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?) > (gdb) This seems like a problem in libaspell; maybe you should simply try to reinstall the aspell port. See below for more info. > For comparison, this is what a crash from eric4 (built with PyQt4) looks > like: > > (gdb) back > #0 0x29224448 in typeinfo name for sipQApplication () > from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so > #1 0x29595531 in sm_performSaveYourself () from > /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #2 0x295956a1 in sm_saveYourselfCallback () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 #3 0x29aed10b in _SmcProcessMessage () > from /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 #4 0x29afffa3 in IceProcessMessages () from > /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 #5 0x2958f5c8 in > QSmSocketReceiver::socketActivated () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 > #6 0x2958f62f in QSmSocketReceiver::qt_metacall () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 > #7 0x287bc15f in QMetaObject::activate () from > /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #8 0x287bc6d2 in QMetaObject::activate () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #9 0x287d8b33 in > QSocketNotifier::activated () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #10 0x287c1e1f in QSocketNotifier::event () from > /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 #11 0x295467bd in > QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 > #12 0x2954c8fe in QApplication::notify () from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 > #13 0x291b4a13 in sipQApplication::notify () > from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so > #14 0x287ab07b in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #15 0x287ccaf3 in socketNotifierSourceDispatch () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #16 0x28852886 in g_main_context_dispatch () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #17 0x28855c02 in g_main_context_check () from > /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #18 0x28856185 in g_main_context_iteration > () > from /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 > #19 0x287ccf78 in QEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #20 0x295bd965 in QGuiEventDispatcherGlib::processEvents () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 > #21 0x287aac31 in QCoreApplication::processEvents () > from /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 > #22 0x28623966 in meth_QCoreApplication_processEvents () > from /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtCore.so > #23 0x080b131a in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () > #24 0x080b1fab in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () > #25 0x080b1fab in PyEval_EvalFrameEx () > #26 0x080b2919 in PyEval_EvalCodeEx () > #27 0x080b2a67 in PyEval_EvalCode () > #28 0x080c9fc6 in Py_CompileString () > #29 0x080ca070 in PyRun_FileExFlags () > #30 0x080cb569 in PyRun_SimpleFileExFlags () > #31 0x08056ef1 in Py_Main () > #32 0x080563b5 in main () > (gdb) This seems like a problem in qt4 (I don't think the problem is in PyQt), simply try reinstalling that, too (completely; qt4 is split into several ports and "pkg_info | grep qt4" is your friend here). Generally, from what I interpret into the second backtrace, you upgraded from some 6 release to 7.0-BETA2, which (amongst other things) means that the C++ libraries have changed (because of a newer compiler, gcc 3.3 vs. 4.2). The compiler has also had changes introduced to the C++ type info descriptor layout (which I should think causes the segmentation fault in typeinfo name in the second backtrace), so that if you have a program that's linked against different versions of libstdc++ (PyQt is linked against that, just as qt4 is), you'll see behaviour like this. To check whether my hypothesis is correct, simply do an ldd on both a PyQt library, and a qt4 shared library (locations of both of which you can extract from the backtrace). If the version of libstdc++ is different, you didn't follow the upgrading procedure which explicitly states to recompile _all_ ports for the new system. Output should look something like this, anyway: [modelnine@phoenix ~]$ ldd /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 /usr/local/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: ... libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x28c4c000) ... [modelnine@phoenix ~]$ where libstdc++.so.6 is the 7.0 variant, whereas a 6 system will show libstdc++.so.5. There are also some other changes, especially in the threading libraries, which can cause errors like these on non-C++ applications, although I wouldn't know whether aspell is affected by this, but possibly gtk2 is. Anyway, posting some more info on the upgrade process to 7.0 you did would help, I guess. Hope this helps for the moment. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 09:18:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9758116A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from x2oxen@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046F613C468 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from x2oxen@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so3488889pyb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:18:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=HS2Cy3vr6L6QJISjkv8ns0bTF1m+H/pFSiY5/RsdWx8=; b=gg75KIy5a9H8UXdF772pRo6GvkQzrR4Rsq3+DKIVtglaVK+u8ZVOvWdtS96hg95YKp1dN1ZPMp2KA8Rn7iUAwU4XhNiUvDDu+7CqaVNGU0j0Z9Br45G/mpbkwvpRECY5DvYFqzRfOmgsTozJMjHhwYsqrOn/+zBS2DOlMXDHoJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JTA9gJlYZoOxrucD9k+JumfHg4CfTL8oyxMk7gNnDLWxWomjanSW18mayxMGx8Bvodd83rWrHxD+r1XdjsaS2XvAKM7YYhH+fta4HKB6J9zGwASen3WqjeS+jS5S3zvIbl5WCWFM+f1A3oQ0/HHsPM6thMja4REmZe2JP2qwkiA= Received: by 10.35.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr546205pyl.1195118305536; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.115.17 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:18:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:18:25 +0500 From: "Muhammad Usman" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Broken port link X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:18:27 -0000 Here is the complete error that its showing. ===> p5-Apache-Filter-1.024 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/mod_perl.pm - not found ===> Verifying install for /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach/mod_perl.pm in /usr/ports/www/mod_perl ===> Building for mod_perl-1.30 (cd ./apaci && PERL5LIB=/usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/lib: make) cc -DPIC -fPIC -O -pipe -I/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wdeclaration-after-statement -I/usr/local/include -DMOD_PERL_VERSION=\" 1.30\" -DMOD_PERL_STRING_VERSION=\"mod_perl/1.30\" -DMOD_PERL_PREFIX=\"/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/i386-freebsd-64int\" -I/usr/local/include/apache2 -DMOD_PERL -O -pipe -O -pipe -c mod_perl.c && mv mod_perl.o mod_perl.lo In file included from mod_perl.h:162, from mod_perl.c:58: apache_inc.h:128:31: http_conf_globals.h: No such file or directory In file included from mod_perl.c:58: mod_perl.h:248: error: syntax error before "table" mod_perl.h:260: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:260: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.h:262: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:262: warning: data definition has no type or storage class In file included from mod_perl.c:58: mod_perl.h:1022: error: syntax error before "array_header" mod_perl.h:1035: error: syntax error before "table" mod_perl.h:1050: error: syntax error before "table" mod_perl.h:1066: error: syntax error before "table" mod_perl.h:1110: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1120: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1121: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1123: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1124: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1155: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1156: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1156: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1156: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.h:1157: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1157: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.h:1161: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1170: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1174: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.h:1175: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1175: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.h:1200: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1201: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1202: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1203: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1204: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1266: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1267: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1270: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1281: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1281: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.h:1282: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.h:1282: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.h:1291: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c:186: error: syntax error before "perl_handlers" mod_perl.c:187: warning: braces around scalar initializer mod_perl.c:187: warning: (near initialization for `perl_handlers[0]') mod_perl.c:187: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_perl.c:187: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer mod_perl.c:187: warning: (near initialization for `perl_handlers[0]') mod_perl.c:188: warning: braces around scalar initializer mod_perl.c:188: warning: (near initialization for `perl_handlers[1]') mod_perl.c:188: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_perl.c:188: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer mod_perl.c:188: warning: (near initialization for `perl_handlers[1]') mod_perl.c:189: warning: braces around scalar initializer mod_perl.c:189: warning: (near initialization for `perl_handlers[2]') mod_perl.c:189: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_perl.c:190: warning: data definition has no type or storage class mod_perl.c:193: error: `this_module_needs_to_be_ported_to_apache_2_0' undeclared here (not in a function) mod_perl.c:193: error: initializer element is not constant mod_perl.c:193: error: (near initialization for `perl_module.version') mod_perl.c:194: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_perl.c:195: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_perl.c:196: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:198: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:199: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast mod_perl.c:200: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:201: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:202: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:203: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:204: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:205: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:206: warning: initialization from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:207: warning: excess elements in struct initializer mod_perl.c:207: warning: (near initialization for `perl_module') mod_perl.c:209: warning: excess elements in struct initializer mod_perl.c:209: warning: (near initialization for `perl_module') mod_perl.c:212: warning: excess elements in struct initializer mod_perl.c:212: warning: (near initialization for `perl_module') mod_perl.c:215: warning: excess elements in struct initializer mod_perl.c:215: warning: (near initialization for `perl_module') mod_perl.c:218: warning: excess elements in struct initializer mod_perl.c:218: warning: (near initialization for `perl_module') mod_perl.c: In function `seqno_check_max': mod_perl.c:235: error: `array_header' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:235: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once mod_perl.c:235: error: for each function it appears in.) mod_perl.c:235: error: `vars' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:235: error: syntax error before ')' token mod_perl.c:242: error: structure has no member named `vars' mod_perl.c:243: error: structure has no member named `vars' mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:256: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c:305: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `mp_fake_request_rec': mod_perl.c:307: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:309: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:311: error: `hook' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:317: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_restart_handler': mod_perl.c:321: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:322: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:327: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_restart': mod_perl.c:357: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:357: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:420: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.c:420: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.c: In function `xs_dl_librefs': mod_perl.c:425: error: `array_header' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:425: error: `arr' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:434: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:447: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:462: error: syntax error before '*' token mod_perl.c: In function `unload_xs_so': mod_perl.c:466: error: `librefs' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: In function `mp_dso_unload': mod_perl.c:485: error: `array_header' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:485: error: `librefs' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:487: error: `pool' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:487: error: syntax error before ')' token mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:561: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_module_init': mod_perl.c:564: warning: passing arg 1 of `ap_add_version_component' from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:564: error: too few arguments to function `ap_add_version_component' mod_perl.c:572: warning: passing arg 1 of `ap_add_version_component' from incompatible pointer type mod_perl.c:572: error: too few arguments to function `ap_add_version_component' mod_perl.c:576: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:576: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:601: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_startup': mod_perl.c:606: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:611: error: `server_argv0' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:649: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:788: warning: passing arg 1 of `Perl_newSVpv' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_perl.c:789: warning: passing arg 1 of `Perl_newSVpv' makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_perl.c:802: error: structure has no member named `PerlRequire' mod_perl.c:803: error: structure has no member named `PerlRequire' mod_perl.c:811: error: structure has no member named `PerlModule' mod_perl.c:812: error: structure has no member named `PerlModule' mod_perl.c:833: error: `null_cleanup' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:934: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_child_exit_cleanup': mod_perl.c:940: error: structure has no member named `pool' mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:943: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_child_init': mod_perl.c:947: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:948: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:953: error: structure has no member named `pool' mod_perl.c:954: error: `null_cleanup' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: At top level: mod_perl.c:963: error: syntax error before "pool" mod_perl.c: In function `perl_child_exit': mod_perl.c:967: error: `s' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:968: error: `p' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: In function `per_request_cleanup': mod_perl.c:1132: error: structure has no member named `sigsave' mod_perl.c:1133: error: structure has no member named `sigsave' mod_perl.c: In function `perl_per_request_init': mod_perl.c:1430: error: structure has no member named `dir_env' mod_perl.c:1430: error: structure has no member named `env' mod_perl.c:1436: error: structure has no member named `dir_env' mod_perl.c:1436: error: structure has no member named `env' mod_perl.c: In function `perl_call_handler': mod_perl.c:1520: warning: initialization makes pointer from integer without a cast mod_perl.c:1681: error: `SERVER_ERROR' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c: In function `perl_request_rec': mod_perl.c:1728: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size mod_perl.c:1732: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size mod_perl.c: In function `perl_setup_env': mod_perl.c:1747: error: `array_header' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:1747: error: `arr' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:1748: error: `table_entry' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:1748: error: `elts' undeclared (first use in this function) mod_perl.c:1748: error: syntax error before ')' token *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30/apaci. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_perl/work/mod_perl-1.30. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/mod_perl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-Filter. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/www/p5-Apache-ASP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 09:19:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D45316A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BE413C48A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.37] (a89-182-174-138.net-htp.de [89.182.174.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A26BA44529 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:12:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:19:52 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711151019.52932.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: ffmpeg demuxer library currently broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:19:01 -0000 Hey all! Does anyone else have problems with the latest ffmpeg port (from Oct 20)? It crashes "reliably" for me transcoding any input to any output (I tested with avi and mp3 files). The backtrace in the core-dump is corrupt, but it seems that the problem lies somewhere in libavformat's demuxer library (but is format independent), which causes a segmentation fault. If anybody else is experiencing this, please write me a short mail, because I'll start investigating deeper under that circumstance (I need ffmpeg desperately for work, and simply downgraded to the previous port, which works fine, but still would like to have a fix for the current ffmpeg if it's not only my system that is causing this). Thanks for any info! -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 10:10:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9170916A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C11C13C468 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFAAKkT056591 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lAFAAJMW056588 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:10:19 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115110823.B56581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: /etc/issue for telnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:10:31 -0000 how to turn it on there is something written in telnetd manual about setting it in gettytab, but i can't find an example of gettytab for telnetd session. how to set it up? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 10:26:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE28516A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sec05@webstyle.ch) Received: from zimbra.webstyle.ch (zimbra.webstyle.ch [212.103.68.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8B313C4DD for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sec05@webstyle.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.webstyle.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7589491358; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:06:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.66 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.66 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.939, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from zimbra.webstyle.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.webstyle.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KVzdm9of8L46; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:06:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.254.205] (brain.webstyle.ch [212.60.61.188]) by zimbra.webstyle.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4110591351; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:06:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:06:42 +0100 From: Simon Burkhalter To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200711151019.52932.wundram@beenic.net> References: <200711151019.52932.wundram@beenic.net> Message-Id: <20071115110611.FAE5.SEC05@webstyle.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.42 [en] Cc: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" Subject: Re: ffmpeg demuxer library currently broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sec05@webstyle.ch List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:26:43 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:19:52 +0100 "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" wrote: > Hey all! > > Does anyone else have problems with the latest ffmpeg port (from Oct 20)? It > crashes "reliably" for me transcoding any input to any output (I tested with > avi and mp3 files). > > The backtrace in the core-dump is corrupt, but it seems that the problem lies > somewhere in libavformat's demuxer library (but is format independent), which > causes a segmentation fault. > > If anybody else is experiencing this, please write me a short mail, because > I'll start investigating deeper under that circumstance (I need ffmpeg > desperately for work, and simply downgraded to the previous port, which works > fine, but still would like to have a fix for the current ffmpeg if it's not > only my system that is causing this). > > Thanks for any info! Hi Heiko I had the same problem some days before. Not a fix, maybe only a workaround or debug hint: Compile ports/multimedia/ffmpeg without -pthread or using ffmpeg-2007.05.30_1 still works. Full information here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-bugs/2007-August/126554.html cheers Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 10:42:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6675916A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128FC13C4D9 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 5B20D1422BB; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:42:09 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2711422B9; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:42:06 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:44:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071114103225.q7bueyig2s4g400o@webmailm.dfwlp.org> <473B3D4E.7040103@cederstrand.dk> In-Reply-To: <473B3D4E.7040103@cederstrand.dk> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711151244.03081.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Jonathan Horne , Erik Cederstrand Subject: Re: jails in 6.3 and 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:42:11 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 20:24:14 Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: > > I was reading a while back that the jails tcp system was getting an > > overhaul, possibly in the 7.0 release. I don't remember all the > > particulars, but things along the lines to make jails function even > > more like a real (independant) system. I believe one of the > > improvments might have been a separate virtual interface, thus > > allowing he jail to have its own pf configuration. > > > > I've not seen anything else on this topic, so I was wondering if > > anyone might know if that's going to make in to 7 (and possibly > > backported to 6.3)? > > You're thinking about the Network Stack Virtualization project: > > http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2007-07-2007-10.html#Network-S >tack-Virtualization > > In short: not ready yet. But, already usable to a great extent. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 10:45:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61E916A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632D913C457 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:45:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IscDS-0004g9-Gx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:44:58 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:44:58 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:44:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:48:19 +0100 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> <473B819A.1000802@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <473B819A.1000802@gmail.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:45:10 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >> Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you >> verify the MD5 checksum on the ISO images? > This is completely off topic but MD5 is not secure: > http://www.infosec.sdu.edu.cn/paper/md5-attack.pdf > > Similar weaknesses have been found in the entire MD/SHA families. It may not be secure for deliberate attacks (probably on short messages) but it's still safe as a "checksum" for random corruption, and I believe also for passwords (i.e. /etc/passwd) since a) the attacker usually doesn't know the hash in advance, b) the wildly used passwd hash algorithm is not pure MD5 but involves many passes of a MD5-like loop (designed I think by phk), and c) it uses "salting" on top of all that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 11:55:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CBE16A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay008.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F3C13C46B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes Received: from 7.55-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([87.66.55.7]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 12:45:23 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:42:13 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115114213.GA4641@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20071115110823.B56581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071115110823.B56581@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: /etc/issue for telnet X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:55:38 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:10:19AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > how to turn it on > there is something written in telnetd manual about setting it in gettytab, > but i can't find an example of gettytab for telnetd session. how to set it > up? > Not sure if this is what you mean but edit your /etc/inetd to uncomment your telnet. Then add to your /etc/rc.conf inetd_enable="YES" inetd_flags="-wW -C 60" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 12:47:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2168A16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbigniew@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from lists.lc-words.com (lists.lc-words.com [83.19.156.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42E913C447 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbigniew@szalbot.homedns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.szalbot.homedns.org [127.0.0.1]) by lists.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F483F405 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:46:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from lists.lc-words.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (szalbot.homedns.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-maia, port 10026) with ESMTP id 24938-10 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:46:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.11.4] (unknown [192.168.11.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.lc-words.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF55B3F404 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:46:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473C3FCB.6040302@szalbot.homedns.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:47:07 +0100 From: zbigniew szalbot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cron/send mail question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:47:16 -0000 Dear all, What command (when using cron) should I invoke to automatically sent /var/log/exim/rejectlog file to a specified email address? I just need to analyze it and would best prefer to have it in my inbox in the morning. Thanks a lot in advance! Zbigniew Szalbot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 13:05:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A447816A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:05:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D413213C51A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:04:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter Received: from anthesphoria.net (adsl-255-190.eunet.yu [213.198.255.190]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAFCUNFg051044 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:30:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:27:21 +0100 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Yuri Message-ID: <20071115132721.05b0dbdd@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <1195069866.473b51aa13e39@webmail.rawbw.com> References: <20071114170444.0B8D9288BDF@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> <1195069866.473b51aa13e39@webmail.rawbw.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du; ; 0~6nO=[Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B; m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: yuri@tsoft.com, Richard Tobin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:05:02 -0000 On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800 Yuri wrote: > But it's still strange that there's no GUI utility in KDE or just X > that would do it. There are at least two very convenient GUI ways do to this: (1) (g)ViM: assuming that you use UTF-8 to interptet Unicode and that your locale is properly set (xx_XX-UTF-8), you can paste the character (i.e.) =E2=80=9E=E4=BE=86=E2=80=9C, point the cursor over it,= and then: * key sequence 'ga' will return '<=E4=BE=86> 20358, Hex 4f86, Octal 476= 06'; * key sequence 'g8' will return 'e4 be 86' (actual bytes used to produce that letter; * key sequence '[Ctrl+v]u4f86' will print =E2=80=9E=E4=BE=86=E2=80=9C (= in Insert mode). (2) deskutils/gucharmap: GTK2 application, doesn't pull many Gnome dependencies, has highly professionally made database. 'View -> Find -> =E4=BE=86 -> Character details' will provide you with = the following: U+4F86 CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-4F86 General Character Properties Unicode category: Letter, Other =09 Various Useful Representations UTF-8: 0xE4 0xBE 0x86 UTF-16: 0x4F86 C octal escaped UTF-8: \344\276\206 XML decimal entity: 來 CJK Ideograph Information Definition in English: come, coming; return, returning Mandarin Pronunciation: LAI2 LAI4 Cantonese Pronunciation: lai4 loi4 loi6 Japanese On Pronunciation: RAI Japanese Kun Pronunciation: KURU Tang Pronunciation: *l=C9=99i l=C9=99i Korean Pronunciation: LAY Greetings. --=20 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 :: =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=9B=D0=B5= =D1=87=D0=B8=D1=9B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 13:22:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308D616A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:22:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD96E13C45A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:22:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 14391 invoked by uid 1002); 15 Nov 2007 13:22:14 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.359559 secs); 15 Nov 2007 13:22:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Nov 2007 13:22:07 -0000 Message-ID: <473C47FF.8040505@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:22:07 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zbigniew szalbot References: <473C3FCB.6040302@szalbot.homedns.org> In-Reply-To: <473C3FCB.6040302@szalbot.homedns.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron/send mail question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:22:16 -0000 zbigniew szalbot wrote: > Dear all, > > What command (when using cron) should I invoke to automatically sent > /var/log/exim/rejectlog file to a specified email address? I just need > to analyze it and would best prefer to have it in my inbox in the morning. The following should be on one line in crontab : 1 * * * * mail -s "File contents" my@email.addr < /home/steveb/file.name It will send your file to you inline in an email ad one minute after midnight every day. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 13:34:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8201E16A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDC513C4D1 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:34:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 08:34:16 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JIJ67483; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:34:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 08:33:12 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18236.19159.239020.905528@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:34:15 -0500 To: "Matt Fioravante" In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711150029m5c6b0abbm4f7ff448d70c4664@mail.gmail.com> References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> <20071114133802.M51192@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <3eca10930711150029m5c6b0abbm4f7ff448d70c4664@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Lars Eighner , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:34:25 -0000 Matt Fioravante writes: > Well I was just comtemplating the idea of setting up a freebsd > load at my workplace. They already run linux and solaris and > because of bad decisions in the past, they mount their afs shares > on /usr/local. So I would have to install ports in /usr or some > other prefix. Nobody's saying you can't put them somewhere else, only that the specific location "/usr" (and by extension anywhere that already has a function under hier) is a Really Bad Idea. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 14:20:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3864016A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:20:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05EF13C44B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:20:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (pollux.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.61]) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFEKckF095657 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:20:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAFEKcNJ095656 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:20:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.dfwlp.com: www set sender to freebsd@dfwlp.com using -f Received: from 167.246.36.14 ([167.246.36.14]) by webmail.dfwlp.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:20:38 -0600 Message-ID: <20071115082038.70ed3grmyok0480g@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:20:38 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) / FreeBSD-6.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: selfbuild packages repository X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:20:51 -0000 lately, ive been exclusively doing 'make package-recursive' and 'portupgrade -apP', and have thus collected quite a lot of packages over the past 6 months (which use to keep multiple systems updated). on my NFS server, my /usr/ports/packages/All directory has built up many incrementing versions of the same packages. is there a way to keep the ./All directory culled back match whatever is in ./Latest? im not a programmer and am about as novice as you can get when it comes to shell scripting, but im seeing somethign that could compare ./Latest with ./All, and anything that is linked from Latest to All would be kept, and anything that no longer has a symlink, would be purged. can anyone help me out with a nice way of doing this? -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 14:24:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C06E16A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BACB13C45D for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:24:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Received: from corinth.polands.org (CPE-75-87-219-217.new.res.rr.com [75.87.219.217]) by ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAFEO1vG003835; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from omnihp-rj45.polands.org (ammon.polands.org [172.16.1.7]) by corinth.polands.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFEO02o059255; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:24:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from doug@polands.org) Message-ID: <473C5671.8060207@polands.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:23:45 -0600 From: Doug Poland User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <20071115082038.70ed3grmyok0480g@webmail.dfwlp.org> In-Reply-To: <20071115082038.70ed3grmyok0480g@webmail.dfwlp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.4/4799/Thu Nov 15 06:36:46 2007 on corinth.polands.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: selfbuild packages repository X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:24:11 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > lately, ive been exclusively doing 'make package-recursive' and > 'portupgrade -apP', and have thus collected quite a lot of packages over > the past 6 months (which use to keep multiple systems updated). > > on my NFS server, my /usr/ports/packages/All directory has built up many > incrementing versions of the same packages. is there a way to keep the > ./All directory culled back match whatever is in ./Latest? > > im not a programmer and am about as novice as you can get when it comes > to shell scripting, but im seeing somethign that could compare ./Latest > with ./All, and anything that is linked from Latest to All would be > kept, and anything that no longer has a symlink, would be purged. > > can anyone help me out with a nice way of doing this? > I think that's what portsclean -P is all about. -- Regards, Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 14:31:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C2716A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C3D13C4BB for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (pollux.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.61]) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFEUqur095956 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAFEUqc2095955 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.dfwlp.com: www set sender to freebsd@dfwlp.com using -f Received: from 167.246.36.14 ([167.246.36.14]) by webmail.dfwlp.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:51 -0600 Message-ID: <20071115083051.3btz5di0gs8sw8ck@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:30:51 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071115082038.70ed3grmyok0480g@webmail.dfwlp.org> <473C5671.8060207@polands.org> In-Reply-To: <473C5671.8060207@polands.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) / FreeBSD-6.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: selfbuild packages repository X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:31:07 -0000 Quoting Doug Poland : > Jonathan Horne wrote: >> lately, ive been exclusively doing 'make package-recursive' and =20 >> 'portupgrade -apP', and have thus collected quite a lot of packages =20 >> over the past 6 months (which use to keep multiple systems updated). >> >> on my NFS server, my /usr/ports/packages/All directory has built up =20 >> many incrementing versions of the same packages. is there a way =20 >> to keep the ./All directory culled back match whatever is in =20 >> ./Latest? >> >> im not a programmer and am about as novice as you can get when it =20 >> comes to shell scripting, but im seeing somethign that could =20 >> compare ./Latest with ./All, and anything that is linked from =20 >> Latest to All would be kept, and anything that no longer has a =20 >> symlink, would be purged. >> >> can anyone help me out with a nice way of doing this? >> > I think that's what portsclean -P is all about. > > --=20 > Regards, > Doug perfect!! i knew there had to be an easy way, and im not surprised to =20 find out that portsclean takes care of the job. funny, that ive been =20 using -C and -D forever. :) cheers, --=20 Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 14:31:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EEF16A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:31:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cknipe@savage.za.org) Received: from www39.cpt2.host-h.net (www39.cpt2.host-h.net [41.204.202.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED91C13C474 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:31:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cknipe@savage.za.org) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by www39.cpt2.host-h.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1IsfBv-0006Nw-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:55:58 +0200 Received: from 196.212.105.173 ([196.212.105.173]) by default.cpt2.host-h.net (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <1195134930.473c4fd203795@41.204.202.39> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:55:30 +0200 From: cknipe@savage.za.org To: Steve Bertrand References: <473C3FCB.6040302@szalbot.homedns.org> <473C47FF.8040505@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <473C47FF.8040505@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.5 X-Originating-IP: 196.212.105.173 Cc: zbigniew szalbot , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron/send mail question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:31:40 -0000 existats comes to mind as well. Does the whole analyze thing for you... Quoting Steve Bertrand : > zbigniew szalbot wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > What command (when using cron) should I invoke to automatically sent > > /var/log/exim/rejectlog file to a specified email address? I just need > > to analyze it and would best prefer to have it in my inbox in the morning. > > The following should be on one line in crontab : > > 1 * * * * mail -s "File contents" my@email.addr < /home/steveb/file.name > > It will send your file to you inline in an email ad one minute after > midnight every day. > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 14:48:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC2416A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:48:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2056413C45A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAFEmHMO004387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:48:33 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAFEm6BM002886; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:48:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAFEm59s002885; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:48:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:48:05 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: zbigniew szalbot Message-ID: <20071115144805.GA2814@kobe.laptop> References: <473C3FCB.6040302@szalbot.homedns.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473C3FCB.6040302@szalbot.homedns.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.996, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron/send mail question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:48:44 -0000 On 2007-11-15 13:47, zbigniew szalbot wrote: > Dear all, > What command (when using cron) should I invoke to automatically sent > /var/log/exim/rejectlog file to a specified email address? I just need > to analyze it and would best prefer to have it in my inbox in the > morning. There are several ways. (1) Add a new shell script to `/usr/local/etc/periodic/daily'. (2) Add the commands you want to run in `/etc/daily.local'. (3) Add a cronjob in `/etc/crontab' to run a custom script. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 15:24:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236AA16A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF83113C46E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:24:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAFFOZ4e001532; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:24:36 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:24:32 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> <200711142107.27718.freysman@comcast.net> <200711151007.03334.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200711151007.03334.wundram@beenic.net> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711150924.34152.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" Subject: Re: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:24:40 -0000 On Thursday 15 November 2007 03:07:03 am Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > This seems like a problem in libaspell; maybe you should simply try to > reinstall the aspell port. See below for more info. I rebuilt aspell, but gramps still core dumps. The backtrace shows the same as previously. :/ > > For comparison, this is what a crash from eric4 (built with PyQt4) looks > > like: > This seems like a problem in qt4 (I don't think the problem is in PyQt), > simply try reinstalling that, too (completely; qt4 is split into several > ports and "pkg_info | grep qt4" is your friend here). > > Generally, from what I interpret into the second backtrace, you upgraded > from some 6 release to 7.0-BETA2, which (amongst other things) means that > the C++ libraries have changed (because of a newer compiler, gcc 3.3 vs. > 4.2). The compiler has also had changes introduced to the C++ type info > descriptor layout (which I should think causes the segmentation fault in > typeinfo name in the second backtrace), so that if you have a program > that's linked against different versions of libstdc++ (PyQt is linked > against that, just as qt4 is), you'll see behaviour like this. > > To check whether my hypothesis is correct, simply do an ldd on both a PyQt > library, and a qt4 shared library (locations of both of which you can > extract from the backtrace). If the version of libstdc++ is different, you > didn't follow the upgrading procedure which explicitly states to recompile > _all_ ports for the new system. These appear to be the same, but its possible my blurry eyes may be overlooking something obvious. /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4: libpng.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5 (0x28185000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x281aa000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x281b2000) libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x28a1a000) libz.so.4 => /lib/libz.so.4 (0x281c9000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x281db000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x28b89000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28c27000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x281e0000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x281e8000) libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x281f0000) libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x281f7000) libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x28d1c000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x281fc000) libfreetype.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 (0x28d25000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x28d93000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28dbd000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28dcb000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x28eb8000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x28fa2000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x28fb7000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x28fc2000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28089000) libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x28fd4000) libpcre.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x28fdd000) libexpat.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 (0x29003000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x29023000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x29026000) librpcsvc.so.4 => /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.4 (0x2902b000) /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyQt4/QtGui.so: libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x28b09000) libpng.so.5 => /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5 (0x28185000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x281aa000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x281b2000) libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/local/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x29223000) libz.so.4 => /lib/libz.so.4 (0x281c9000) libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x281db000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x29392000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x29430000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x281e0000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x281e8000) libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/local/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0x281f0000) libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0x281f7000) libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0x29525000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x281fc000) libfreetype.so.9 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 (0x2952e000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x2959c000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x295c6000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x295d4000) libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x296c1000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x296d6000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x297c0000) libthr.so.3 => /lib/libthr.so.3 (0x297cb000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x28089000) libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x297dd000) libpcre.so.0 => /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 (0x297e6000) libexpat.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so.6 (0x2980c000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x2982c000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x2982f000) librpcsvc.so.4 => /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.4 (0x29834000) > There are also some other changes, especially in the threading libraries, > which can cause errors like these on non-C++ applications, although I > wouldn't know whether aspell is affected by this, but possibly gtk2 is. > > Anyway, posting some more info on the upgrade process to 7.0 you did would > help, I guess. I initially tried to upgrade all ports using 'portupgrade -fa', which ran for days and left me with 11 ports failed and about 300 skipped as a result. I managed to upgrade the failed ones with 'make install' then 'portupgrade -fa' again, rather than trying to upgrade the skipped 300 one at a time. When this ran into the same series of failures as before I realized the error and simply removed all ports 'pkg_delete -f \*' and reinstalled them using 'pkg_add -r'. I am currently in the process of 'portupgrade -aR' following a recent portsnap which shows a small handful of packages needing upgrades. David -- This message is LOADING... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 15:40:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5365316A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1555913C447 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (pollux.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.61]) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFFeiDV099362 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:40:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAFFeiXf099361 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:40:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.dfwlp.com: www set sender to freebsd@dfwlp.com using -f Received: from 167.246.36.14 ([167.246.36.14]) by webmail.dfwlp.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:40:44 -0600 Message-ID: <20071115094044.7xivxgyhc80gc4cs@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:40:44 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) / FreeBSD-6.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: a curious jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:40:59 -0000 ive been building jails for a while, and have always used the =20 canonical method as listed out in the handbook. today, i tried =20 something new. i have read that instead of doing: make world ... make distribution ... that you can instead: make installworld ... make distribution ... ... (assuming your jailhost has already build the latest version) and =20 save yourself a ton of time. well, i tried it, and everything seemed =20 to be fine, until i tried starting it with the /etc/rc script. =20 ld-elf.so.1 complains that libssl.so.5 cant be found 2 times, but all =20 my -p8 systems seem to have /usr/lib/libssl.so.4. i also went back =20 and reverified my newver.sh from the sources that were built and =20 installed world from, and it does say 6.2 RELEASE-p8. so how on earth can it even know libssl.so.5 exists, if libssl.so.4 =20 must be the correct version? thanks, --=20 Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 15:41:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DB016A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0102.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED9B13C465 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:41:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id s42so438542rnb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:41:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=WBbNbXeZG227JuxQbcZiiWEzZkDvIjqpQsP7xqehsY4=; b=M5TZdTUAVNVHbN7x2AEFLubSzfoQwdVY7HD9ol4EkEo1D2UarYMW8NI/CxV5AhYx0cCKhOKYzOpNNvcHaiZNjRXBmXDW62uS1cpZ2vYAyPpFMSdHbJDDYqkZMnMjGkNQx6Y10Zz0kK/hAlELrhJcnoieoN05/HEOPKJjaSsbPO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Ur9nvgyaHO0KiJVvPZIwNLbCjsaTv9hX9MtTSPxB8RbdzMt2oYRwHLJP9DhshWDe7NI5bClT1fOQar47VlVq6jVpuP9dz55/Sh0m01vRyvMWisLHNtjWG0W14mAzziqDx03E3SvnN7l6afI0gCkMPRCM6MVQx/uEQBr2xrsyj7Q= Received: by 10.142.191.2 with SMTP id o2mr118116wff.1195139838926; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.136.20 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 07:17:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:18 +0200 From: "tethys ocean" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: PHP 5.2.4 FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE squirrelmail-1.4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:41:27 -0000 I am running with my newserver on FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE PHP 5.2.4 squirrelmail-1.4.11 now I cant configure squirrelmail. Whenever I write http://my IP/webmail I am take some *php page that is download..... such like content **************************************************************************************

ERROR: Config file ' . '"config/config.php" not found. You need to ' . 'configure SquirrelMail before you can use it.

'; exit; } // If we are, go ahead to the login page. header('Location: src/login.php'); ?> ****************************************************************************** and also I cant browse configtest page and also test.php I wonder this trouble is in my php config? or squirrelmail config?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 15:52:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EB216A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:52:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E343B13C43E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:52:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (pollux.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.61]) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFFq4Gk099703 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:52:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAFFq4NS099702 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:52:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) X-Authentication-Warning: pollux.dfwlp.com: www set sender to freebsd@dfwlp.com using -f Received: from 167.246.36.14 ([167.246.36.14]) by webmail.dfwlp.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:52:04 -0600 Message-ID: <20071115095204.6vx3b5inkog4c08s@webmail.dfwlp.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:52:04 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) / FreeBSD-6.2 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.4 FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE squirrelmail-1.4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:52:17 -0000 Quoting tethys ocean : > I am running with my newserver on FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE PHP 5.2.4 > squirrelmail-1.4.11 now I cant configure squirrelmail. Whenever I > write http://my IP/webmail I am take some *php page that is > download..... such like content > > > **************************************************************************= ************ > > /** > * index.php > * > * Redirects to the login page. > * > * @copyright © 1999-2007 The SquirrelMail Project Team > * @license http://opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.php GNU Public Lice= nse > * @version $Id: index.php 12127 2007-01-13 20:07:24Z kink $ > * @package squirrelmail > */ > > // Are we configured yet? > if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) { > echo '

ERROR: Config file ' . > '"config/config.php" not found. You need to ' . > 'configure SquirrelMail before you can use it.

'; > exit; > } > > // If we are, go ahead to the login page. > header('Location: src/login.php'); > > ?> > > **************************************************************************= **** > > > and also I cant browse configtest page and also test.php > > I wonder this trouble is in my php config? or squirrelmail config?? most likely, its a problem that you didnt update your httpd.conf. =20 take a look at /usr/ports/lang/php5/pkg-message.mod cheers, --=20 Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:04:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D6D16A418; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) Received: from tbaytel.net (front1-nwconx.tbaytel.net [216.211.26.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C1B13C47E; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) X-Scanned-by-Cloudmark: Yes X-Spam-Score: 0.000000 Received: from goodking.goodking.ca (account thomasa@tbaytel.net [216.26.212.192] verified) by front1.tbaytel.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 92014288; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:49:30 -0500 From: Thomas Abthorpe Organization: FreeBSD Ports Committer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:49:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: /|[9,PbEOB6g>?2^*Sc|"~6:Ro"O>Nv\Rfkv\42g)=?utf-8?q?TuAYG=26+bD=5CpCJTX31s=5Fp=7Bc7=5D5a=2ED=2E=0A=09Y?=@QddKu_I[XB8; euK=^[=L1I#]rgi[0jgz^4qCTwlj]3kJ)]vc}O"HrA14hN)=?utf-8?q?aXewJPTi=7C=0A=09Pt=7BS3=23Vw4x-?="/:& Cc: FreeBSD Questions , tethys ocean Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.4 FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE squirrelmail-1.4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tabthorpe@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 15 November 2007 10:17:18 tethys ocean wrote: > I am running with my newserver on   FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE  PHP 5.2.4 > squirrelmail-1.4.11 now I cant configure  squirrelmail. Whenever I > write   http://my IP/webmail    I am take some *php  page that is > download..... such like content > ***snip*** I suspect, if you are running a webserver such as apache, you need to add the following configurations lines to httpd.conf AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps Thomas - -- Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Ports Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHPGqE5Gm/jNBp8qARAjzaAJ0cIZ4RzGrOiC6ztkITp+wJDXWB9wCfVHpu HayCMiePNdKLqtomVqIgRjU= =RmEL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:04:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D6D16A418; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) Received: from tbaytel.net (front1-nwconx.tbaytel.net [216.211.26.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C1B13C47E; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) X-Scanned-by-Cloudmark: Yes X-Spam-Score: 0.000000 Received: from goodking.goodking.ca (account thomasa@tbaytel.net [216.26.212.192] verified) by front1.tbaytel.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 92014288; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:49:30 -0500 From: Thomas Abthorpe Organization: FreeBSD Ports Committer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:49:17 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: /|[9,PbEOB6g>?2^*Sc|"~6:Ro"O>Nv\Rfkv\42g)=?utf-8?q?TuAYG=26+bD=5CpCJTX31s=5Fp=7Bc7=5D5a=2ED=2E=0A=09Y?=@QddKu_I[XB8; euK=^[=L1I#]rgi[0jgz^4qCTwlj]3kJ)]vc}O"HrA14hN)=?utf-8?q?aXewJPTi=7C=0A=09Pt=7BS3=23Vw4x-?="/:& Cc: FreeBSD Questions , tethys ocean Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.4 FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE squirrelmail-1.4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tabthorpe@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:04:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 15 November 2007 10:17:18 tethys ocean wrote: > I am running with my newserver on   FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE  PHP 5.2.4 > squirrelmail-1.4.11 now I cant configure  squirrelmail. Whenever I > write   http://my IP/webmail    I am take some *php  page that is > download..... such like content > ***snip*** I suspect, if you are running a webserver such as apache, you need to add the following configurations lines to httpd.conf AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps Thomas - -- Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Ports Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHPGqE5Gm/jNBp8qARAjzaAJ0cIZ4RzGrOiC6ztkITp+wJDXWB9wCfVHpu HayCMiePNdKLqtomVqIgRjU= =RmEL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:16:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A6516A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mstaudinger@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578F013C468 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mstaudinger@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so377286ika for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:16:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cu0ox2UHeyU/KIa5a4z2iQ50KaM4IJwPTpHgvjLgGDk=; b=HZjcL42e9AvGXosXS32vVbJTmGp98kT4J9Iiy9Pk7Ka7M3A2780WgzxAPeGROuPIVvSwHsW28TVAOp0ywcm9Yjn1UEvFDj5vjyxDeU4a/7vQ6dIanMwkoJMV3R4lgCzq6ghNYyWuSQUmenEWr/F4wd5gNAMZZZzt8otbop6RAEU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J0uXXuapPOBIog7Z8HlzTe529gFktLMyLDkjBphiFES0TXM19GXskhO40ZJDo64UbOgJgiIn7t404diqruBdVWSbrR2hdUwgY3aUwa08T3kDA/+J2Ymxf3OONN5eedFRbjFEvHc4wwLVdsOr0HUyCdDrFOoJxMsb7MDeSOXEWxw= Received: by 10.150.146.14 with SMTP id t14mr74248ybd.1195143364882; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:16:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.96.14 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:16:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1134a9e0711150816s51b88f37uf73b3f9ac0f10267@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:16:04 -0500 From: "Mark Staudinger" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:16:07 -0000 On 11/14/07, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Mark Staudinger wrote: > > I wasn't sure if -questions or -current was the right group, but I > searched > > both before posting. > > > > I'm trying to begin testing FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2, and I have a mixture of > Intel > > and AMD-based machines that I work with. > > I'm using the i386 release. I've previously used FreeBSD-4.9R and 6.2Rfor > > i386 on these machines, but cannot get > > 7.0-Beta2 to work on the AMD machines. These are 100- and 1000-series > > dual-core Opteron CPUs. > > > > I've tried: > > Updating using source from 6.2-Release > > Installing from 7.0-Beta2 CD > > Installing from 7.0-CURRENT-200710-i386 snapshot CD > > > > I see a variety of errors, including: > > > > 1) BTX Halted > > > > 2) errors when running /bin/sh from /etc/rc > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Undefined symbol "opterr" referenced from > COPY > > relocation in sh > > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Invalid file format (on multiple binaries) > > various other "undefined symbol" messages > > signal 10, signal 11 on multiple binaries > > Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you verify the > MD5 checksum on the ISO images? > > > Has anyone successfully used 7.0-Beta2 for i386 on AMD Opteron-based > > platform? Any suggestions for tracking > > down the problem? > > Yes, it works on mine. > > Kris > > I just compared the md5 sum and they match. Considering that I used 2 different CD sources, as well as a source update, all with similar results, it would seem unlikely that a corrupted file/image could be at fault. And of course, the same hard CD can be used to install to an Intel-based machine with no failures. I've tried 3 different MB/ CPU combinations. All are Supermicro-branded, and all have the HT1000 ServerWorks chipset. I've just found Jeff Robertson's post: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20071109114636.Y639 Perhaps he can confirm the behavior. In the meantime I will try the patch posted by John Baldwin yesterday on -current, and test that with both IDE and MMIO modes. Thanks, -ms From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:17:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6CF16A478 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:17:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE05A13C46E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFGF1SY059707; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:15:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lAFGF1tQ059704; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:15:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:15:01 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jonathan Horne In-Reply-To: <20071115094044.7xivxgyhc80gc4cs@webmail.dfwlp.org> Message-ID: <20071115171414.V59698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20071115094044.7xivxgyhc80gc4cs@webmail.dfwlp.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a curious jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:17:00 -0000 > ive been building jails for a while, and have always used the canonical > method as listed out in the handbook. today, i tried something new. i have > read that instead of doing: > > make world ... > make distribution ... > > that you can instead: > > make installworld ... > make distribution ... i know even better - make one jail and copy in to another. first - get base distribution (possibly more) and unpack it. even better - make common /usr and use mount_nullfs on each jail From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:18:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E0516A58E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49C813C457 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFGHQjM059760 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lAFGHQTa059757 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:26 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115171510.D59698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: OT: gcc/binutils question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:18:08 -0000 how to convert arbitrary data (in file) to object file, so i will be able to do extern char something[] and use it - in C. i did wrote converter that converts data from file to const char something[]={firstbyte,secondbyte,.....}; and then cc to compile it. and it's VERY SLOW when data are few megs - while it's no work in fact. can it be done more directly? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:30:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBDB16A469 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:30:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F6F13C469 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFGRnn0009206 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:27:51 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:32:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Organization: Health Systems Trust X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(HkaQ*`!?YOK?Y!'M`C aP\9nVPF8Q}CilHH8l; ~!42HK6'3lg4J}az@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@k#0 54XDRg=Yn_F-etwot4U$bdTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.309 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: apache port knobs - WITH_APACHE2 deprecated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:30:01 -0000 This is (I hope) a quick and easy question. I want to ensure that any ports which depend on Apache will depend on 2.0 rather than try to bring in 1.3. I used to do this by putting WITH_APACHE2 in /etc/make.conf. bsd.apache.mk says WITH_APACHE2 is deprecated. What is it deprecated in favour of, or is that a secret? (Sorry for the snarky tone but I've spent most of today trying to find a clear answer). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:38:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6758E16A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2410113C43E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from c83-249-53-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.249.53.135]:56489) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ishji-0006K9-3J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:38:40 +0100 From: Peo Nilsson To: FreeBSD quest-list Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DqzmkcvWk4omX+QGXDlv" Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:37:29 +0100 Message-Id: <1195144649.48014.4.camel@zeus.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Originating-IP: 83.249.53.135 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Ishji-0006K9-3J. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Ishji-0006K9-3J c0edd233301d9339ffc64f28c7cda9d1 Subject: gnupg keysize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:38:41 -0000 --=-DqzmkcvWk4omX+QGXDlv Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear listmembers. When browsing: http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#INTRO It says: "The size of a DSA key must be between 512 and 1024 bits". It also says: "The ElGamal key may be of any size". Who and why has defined this? In my opinion, the size of a key is a question for the user. --=20 /Peo ---------------------------------------------- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered -=20 ---------------------------------------------- --=-DqzmkcvWk4omX+QGXDlv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHPHXFgWSfflYlIbwRAqRhAJ9eWqdY3S7JmlC2FteRQAQaNLuwsQCg3XlG vlo42jlBOmB9jNujE7LWymY= =O+nH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DqzmkcvWk4omX+QGXDlv-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:45:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9A316A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB35213C47E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so523825wra for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:45:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9hbQI2NwOa60gViEPTs+QS/G9Beso7r7LYr2FTXbrEo=; b=ih2jees4buVAxBCq5oosqAZZVcH8oJmBBJAwdkEKc/QAJ2jVQaIbJtKRRAOWA6Gm9P5QhbzLC9ADHqW2ie/KioQSa/Ei5WxxKMrFPWD9Nwj1snITSvSyaXzZsRrO1alHJVrf1UiDS0FUvcBQTcwOXIn7Cp4bVr4LZbGZ5eIsoUk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fI7sHqHUoQmBjyPyLHc0xIUbJpawFk//q1MySkZfdRfv8Xx/PgJK0A9RoB/52RUoZ8oIIXeZ2YjQYCgXOyfPFtcmt6zzgxExYyisIDekgOChukael58nYFzxwDdWcv1W4xO7Rm2lJIin8jxOv9Pm1R8HNPf6Q6Ub61MZLEaP0/k= Received: by 10.90.91.14 with SMTP id o14mr1379292agb.1195145125247; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n26sm3202638ele.2007.11.15.08.45.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:45:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473C7799.9060609@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:45:13 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peo Nilsson References: <1195144649.48014.4.camel@zeus.se> In-Reply-To: <1195144649.48014.4.camel@zeus.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD quest-list Subject: Re: gnupg keysize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:45:34 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Peo Nilsson wrote: > Dear listmembers. > > When browsing: http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#INTRO > > It says: "The size of a DSA key must be between 512 and 1024 bits". > It also says: "The ElGamal key may be of any size". > > Who and why has defined this? In my opinion, the size of a key is a > question for the user. - -- #toc, .toc, .mw-warning { border: 1px solid #aaa; background-color: #f9f9f9; padding: 5px; font-size: 95%; } #toc h2, .toc h2 { display: inline; border: none; padding: 0; font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold; } #toc #toctitle, .toc #toctitle, #toc .toctitle, .toc .toctitle { text-align: center; } #toc ul, .toc ul { list-style-type: none; list-style-image: none; margin-left: 0; padding-left: 0; text-align: left; } #toc ul ul, .toc ul ul { margin: 0 0 0 2em; } #toc .toctoggle, .toc .toctoggle { font-size: 94%; }@media print, projection, embossed { body { padding-top:1in; padding-bottom:1in; padding-left:1in; padding-right:1in; } } body { font-family:'Times New Roman'; color:#000000; widows:2; font-style:normal; text-indent:0in; font-variant:normal; font-size:12pt; text-decoration:none; font-weight:normal; text-align:left; } table { } td { border-collapse:collapse; text-align:left; vertical-align:top; } p, h1, h2, h3, li { color:#000000; font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12pt; text-align:left; vertical-align:normal; } -->Different encryption schemes are "known" to be secure for certain key sizes and have not been tested and/or known to be breakable for other ones. This combined with the fact that PGP and other encryption front ends such as SSH and SSL need to meet certain standards for the US government (and by extension most of the major corps around the world) all of which require predefined key lengths means that the user does not and should not in most cases have complete freedom to select key sizes. If your concerned about security the best thing to do is get involved with various efforts to develop 2nd/3rd generation public-key algorithms. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPHeYJ9+1V27SttsRAouVAKCUlutI1KShPWOszBX2EhHLzBvsUQCcCD/y verURUjM/6E8gq8/Jl66Ghk= =SdsH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 16:52:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5187616A41B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:52:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from vs0.ezo.net (vps1338.farverbweb.com [69.36.15.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3001713C468 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from ezo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs0.ezo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C7B32841E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:38:31 -0500 (EST) From: "jflowers" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:38:30 -0400 Message-Id: <20071115163127.M41406@ezo.net> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.52 20060502 X-OriginatingIP: 65.25.65.37 (jflowers@ezo.net) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: Spamd-setup with IPFW X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:52:00 -0000 I am trying to setup spamd in blacklisting only mode along with ipfw on FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #1. When I run `spamd-setup -m ipfw -t 2 -d -b`only the last set of ip addresses listed in the stock spamd.conf can be seen in table 2 using `ipfw table 2 list | wc -l`. Is this a bug in spamd-setup? Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Jim Flowers From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 17:04:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E85C16A46C for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from viefep19-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABA313C46A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (really [80.99.119.201]) by viefep19-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071115170410.FVGA2991.viefep19-int.chello.at@[192.168.1.104]> for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:04:10 +0100 Message-ID: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:04:10 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:04:13 -0000 Hi All, Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many memory can it use for caching file data from disk? It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the cache size whenever a program wants to allocate more memory. It is my hope, but I could not find the documentation. RTFM is fine with me but please give a keyword where I can start. :-) Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 17:22:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474C616A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6021213C43E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFHMRd9060456; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:22:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lAFHMRBI060453; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:22:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:22:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Laszlo Nagy In-Reply-To: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> Message-ID: <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:22:47 -0000 > Hi All, > > Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many memory can it > use for caching file data from disk? > > It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the cache it already does From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 17:36:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C63316A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC44713C455 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAFHaSSj015749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:36:38 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAFHaN6Z001956; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:36:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAFHaNP5001955; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:36:23 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:36:23 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20071115173623.GA1749@kobe.laptop> References: <20071115171510.D59698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071115171510.D59698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.996, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: gcc/binutils question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:36:52 -0000 On 2007-11-15 17:17, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > how to convert arbitrary data (in file) to object file, so i will be able > to do > > extern char something[] > > and use it - in C. Try to file2c(1) utility. Quoting from its manpage: % EXAMPLES % The command: % % date | file2c 'const char date[] = {' ',0};' % % will produce: % % const char date[] = { % 83,97,116,32,74,97,110,32,50,56,32,49,54,58,50,56,58,48,53, % 32,80,83,84,32,49,57,57,53,10 % ,0}; > i did wrote converter that converts data from file to > > const char something[]={firstbyte,secondbyte,.....}; > > and then cc to compile it. > > and it's VERY SLOW when data are few megs - while it's no work in fact. I think there's something wrong with the converter, then. The file2c(1) utility converts my kernel (6 MB of data) in less than 3 seconds: $ /usr/bin/time file2c 'const char kernel[] = {' '};' \ < /boot/kernel/kernel > /dev/null 2.98 real 2.92 user 0.11 sys $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 17:37:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080E16A41B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD34C13C4D5 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:37:09 -0800 Message-ID: <473C83C4.1010804@riderway.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:37:08 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Fioravante References: <3eca10930711141005m5ceb5d8bve7a1b6f235057342@mail.gmail.com> <20071114133802.M51192@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <3eca10930711150029m5c6b0abbm4f7ff448d70c4664@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3eca10930711150029m5c6b0abbm4f7ff448d70c4664@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Lars Eighner , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Installing ports to /usr X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:37:11 -0000 Matt Fioravante wrote: > Well I was just comtemplating the idea of setting up a freebsd load at > my workplace. They already run linux and solaris and because of bad > decisions in the past, they mount their afs shares on /usr/local. So I > would have to install ports in /usr or some other prefix. Why repeat past mistakes :) ? just make /usr and /usr/local on the freebsd box different partitions. (otional) Then mount it as mount -t nfs feebsd-host:/usr/local /usr/local/freebsd and add /usr/local/freebsd/{sbin,bin} to the $PATH -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 17:39:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471D016A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from EXHUB015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-3.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C90013C467 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:39:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:39:48 -0800 Message-ID: <473C8463.8020308@riderway.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:39:47 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McKeown References: <200711151832.18684.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: <200711151832.18684.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: apache port knobs - WITH_APACHE2 deprecated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:39:49 -0000 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > This is (I hope) a quick and easy question. > > I want to ensure that any ports which depend on Apache will depend on 2.0 > rather than try to bring in 1.3. > > I used to do this by putting WITH_APACHE2 in /etc/make.conf. > > bsd.apache.mk says WITH_APACHE2 is deprecated. $ grep apache /etc/make.conf APACHE_PORT= www/apache22 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 17:54:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F7316A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5D913C4BB for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7682C28440; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:54:45 -0500 (EST) To: Peo Nilsson References: <1195144649.48014.4.camel@zeus.se> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:54:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1195144649.48014.4.camel@zeus.se> (Peo Nilsson's message of "Thu\, 15 Nov 2007 17\:37\:29 +0100") Message-ID: <44oddvtmvu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD quest-list Subject: Re: gnupg keysize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:54:47 -0000 Peo Nilsson writes: > When browsing: > http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#INTRO > > It says: > "The size of a DSA key must be between 512 and 1024 bits". > It also says: > "The ElGamal key may be of any size". > > Who and why has defined this? The OpenPGP standard. [Actually, the history is a little more complicated than that, but OpenPGP is the limiting factor at the moment.] > In my opinion, the size of a key is a question for the user. No one is forcing you to follow standards. However, standards are useful when communicating with other people. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 18:18:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD9D16A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8171213C50A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp85-141-132-231.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.141.132.231]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E03E242F82B; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:00 +0300 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Nikola =?utf-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= Message-ID: <20071115181759.GA97540@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <20071114170444.0B8D9288BDF@macpro.inf.ed.ac.uk> <1195069866.473b51aa13e39@webmail.rawbw.com> <20071115132721.05b0dbdd@anthesphoria.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20071115132721.05b0dbdd@anthesphoria.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Yuri , yuri@tsoft.com, Richard Tobin , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to see UNICODE character number? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:18:03 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:27:21PM +0100, Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:51:06 -0800 > Yuri wrote: >=20 > > But it's still strange that there's no GUI utility in KDE or just X > > that would do it. >=20 > There are at least two very convenient GUI ways do to this: >=20 > (1) (g)ViM: assuming that you use UTF-8 to interptet Unicode and that > (2) deskutils/gucharmap: GTK2 application, doesn't pull many Gnome (3) x11/rxvt-unicode - you just press and hold Ctrl+Shift+LClick and move cursor around. Urxvt will show info on any char you point at. (4) In a UTF-8 console: iconv -l|grep UTF echo |iconv -t UTF-32|hexdump From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 18:24:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E7916A475 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EEAE13C512 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:24:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 13:24:28 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.5-GA) with ESMTP id JIK66509; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 13:23:23 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18236.36570.116953.110494@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:24:26 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: semi-OT: awk - field separator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:24:29 -0000 What is the canonical way to get (FreeBSD default) awk to use a single double-quote as the field separator? I have tried variations on -F\\\" and -F"\"" and the best I can get is: + awk -F" {print $2} ./script.sh: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected Respectfully, Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 18:35:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5AFC16A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184E513C4CC for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:35:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAFIYhHL019459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:34:49 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAFIYboE002513; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:34:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAFIYb7f002512; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:34:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:34:37 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Robert Huff Message-ID: <20071115183437.GB2455@kobe.laptop> References: <18236.36570.116953.110494@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18236.36570.116953.110494@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.996, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: awk - field separator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:35:12 -0000 On 2007-11-15 13:24, Robert Huff wrote: > What is the canonical way to get (FreeBSD default) awk to use a > single double-quote as the field separator? I have tried variations > on -F\\\" and -F"\"" and the best I can get is: > > + awk -F" {print $2} > ./script.sh: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected Any of the following should work: awk -F\" ... awk -F"\"" ... awk -F'"' ... I see that this is part of a script (the '+' character at the start of the line). Can you show us the *exact* contents of the script at the point where awk(1) is called? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 18:35:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6A216A46B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EE313C4BE for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh.carroll@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so3804840pyb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:35:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kr5EyiHv2gOQqcIzdB/t7fptBxifN9xDIaH2aVSvmAk=; b=aIDRQFTgjLmbtqONb/r9YP5I94sf4hX5SYOMJlPOHAXVIL4X2ih9XCExpKd/ayC4WW8aKNyIzDoG5KfyT1zbemwTP6TLQILPduUejok/Gwtl+TEYlkZHS9p49LX3fa19c6cOAg8/bSziufGIydgWGEbZyQxcceoe2UyttpNes2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Xpz71bozqAqI7RmwZ7ABKNpI/jQE+qMR3P/6csU3KTb8uG4nFtJBSiUFbmY7l2G4rq1PKlLOnMcFjnoE7ipVxOFiMa/mlheeMXpoWtcKd3aTZ9BPrjdm4yoGy+ElarZtbLe2gkvKkNIcCkW0V8C7o4KiPHsFfqZ3euRJVP+Ezqs= Received: by 10.35.84.9 with SMTP id m9mr1119529pyl.1195151727381; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.57.12 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:35:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8cb6106e0711151035n2d33e58fja03637a1a6a89a9e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:35:27 -0500 From: "Josh Carroll" To: "Robert Huff" In-Reply-To: <18236.36570.116953.110494@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <18236.36570.116953.110494@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: awk - field separator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: josh.carroll@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:35:28 -0000 > What is the canonical way to get (FreeBSD default) awk to use a > single double-quote as the field separator? I have tried variations > on -F\\\" and -F"\"" and the best I can get is: > > + awk -F" {print $2} > ./script.sh: 1: Syntax error: word unexpected awk -F'"' That's a single quote, then a double quote, then another single quote. Or: awk -F\" should also work. Regards, Josh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 18:52:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7698816A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:52:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C9E13C47E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFInm6K014953 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:49:49 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:54:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <200711151832.18684.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <473C8463.8020308@riderway.com> In-Reply-To: <473C8463.8020308@riderway.com> Organization: Health Systems Trust X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?iso-8859-1?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=3B=7E!42HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?iso-8859-1?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.315 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" Subject: Re: apache port knobs - WITH_APACHE2 deprecated? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:52:05 -0000 On Thursday 15 November 2007 19:39, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > Jonathan McKeown wrote: > > This is (I hope) a quick and easy question. > > > > I want to ensure that any ports which depend on Apache will depend on 2.0 > > rather than try to bring in 1.3. > > > > I used to do this by putting WITH_APACHE2 in /etc/make.conf. > > > > bsd.apache.mk says WITH_APACHE2 is deprecated. > > $ grep apache /etc/make.conf > APACHE_PORT= www/apache22 Thanks. I wondered about that while looking through bsd.apache.mk but wasn't confident enough (nor did I have enough spare time) to experiment. I must offer a patch to the makefile/documentation. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:03:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE9E16A469 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A8F13C45B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:03:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5270EB150AE1; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:02:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.169.121] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Isjye-0002sv-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:02:12 +0100 Message-ID: <473C979A.9020601@web.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:01:46 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuri Pankov References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> <200711131010.17182.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200711131010.17182.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+WLypymaulbLmv26aODA2iPMn6ZVkGbylX5iVd C+OVRJfUY046YVeQxFMy28I08TffmO4FGOpt5f/rMz4fkjgsnH vvQZ0qgrc= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:03:52 -0000 > Latter looks like overkill :-) If you *really* need watch flash9 movies in > browser, using WINE with Firefox and FlashPlayer9 can be reasonable choice. > > > Yuri > Thanks, that works... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:20:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DE616A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3393213C467 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:20:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFJKVVY017921; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAFJKVt2017920; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:20:31 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from sj-webwasher.Cadence.COM (sj-webwasher.Cadence.COM [158.140.1.25]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:20:30 -0800 Message-ID: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:20:30 -0800 From: Yuri To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 158.140.1.25 Cc: yuri@tsoft.com Subject: How to know PID responsible for network connection/listen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:20:34 -0000 'netstat -a' gives me the listing of network connection/listening records. But there's no link to the process id that opened it. With lots of processes this can be a significant problem to figure out who opened which connection. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:22:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEB416A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7874313C4BB for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:22:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) id lAFJMYeQ017236; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:22:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:22:34 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Yuri Message-ID: <20071115192234.GF33712@dan.emsphone.com> References: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: yuri@tsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know PID responsible for network connection/listen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:22:36 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 15), Yuri said: > 'netstat -a' gives me the listing of network connection/listening > records. But there's no link to the process id that opened it. With > lots of processes this can be a significant problem to figure out who > opened which connection. Try /usr/bin/sockstat or the sysutils/lsof port. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:23:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2620116A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:23:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB10613C459 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bseklecki@collaborativefusion.com) Received: from [192.168.2.62] (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:23:38 -0500 id 00056453.473C9CBA.000058FA From: "Brian A Seklecki (Mobile)" To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> References: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> Organization: Collaborative Fusion, Inc. Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:23:35 -0500 Message-Id: <1195154615.4042.121.camel@new-host> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 (2.12.1-3.fc8) Cc: yuri@tsoft.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know PID responsible for network connection/listen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:23:40 -0000 On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 11:20 -0800, Yuri wrote: > 'netstat -a' gives me the listing of network connection/listening records. > But there's no link to the process id that opened it. Install ports/sysutils/lsof/ Each socket is a file descriptor. ~BAS > With lots of processes this can be a significant problem to figure out who > opened which connection. > > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:49:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30C216A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists.seay@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EDA13C505 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists.seay@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so3854264pyb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:49:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=P3nBBW1R42lauh7dykJ/Zz6VXx32ZhRjdnR3qiCbRE8=; b=Qs30THkl5hNKOB6taRkONWlHKE45XOA+6e9hEa0BfGGrEkGQSdlk5y8TX75bfU4C+OX00AW7QEYcUiO4yr2na0WX4olqipYPP0PXD5xH0Sb3UmMfL6yjn6nTUgqbAmsVfJ5kmIVNTAiWjKYtrZeJMIDIxF18y3e5DguBHKjYgO8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KAPINURcYepeAxB3zqvMIgvEYrypB57Qve5uQpajM8lc8s31BF7/PDOLIuIkMlbY0HAvO/o+CK9LPl+qX1SAvr4NBcpkFTCx2Pq8rqXDjIL2Bw+xdeRZbIDqLYRklu6kCKkDDMmz2ZCxvwKSsf7OEeAk0EaAt3xJ7zVDCn4uL5U= Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr1076078wac.1195156184689; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.185.2 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:49:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:49:44 -0500 From: "Richard (Rick) Seay" To: "Reid Linnemann" In-Reply-To: <47308E9C.6000707@cs.okstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <472F2512.8080907@cs.okstate.edu> <47308E9C.6000707@cs.okstate.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nspluginwrapper + linux-flashplugin7 broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:49:48 -0000 It seems that flash and the X composite extension don't get along. I added the following to my xorg.conf: Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection Now everything works as before. Thanks to "Domenick" at bsdforums.org. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:50:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD2216A41B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:50:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D746213C506 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 3146 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 19:50:01 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 19:50:01 -0000 Message-ID: <473CA295.6070203@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:48:37 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <473941BD.9020807@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <473941BD.9020807@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , Garrett Cooper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:50:03 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> Garrett Cooper wrote: >>> [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >>>> Garrett Cooper wrote: >>>> USE flags are a pain in the ass (former Gentoo user of 3 years). >>>>> Introducing that type of complexity into a ports system isn't necessary >>>>> and does unexpected things at times for end-users when developers >>>>> change >>>>> variable names or behavior, which happened quite often with Gentoo. >>>>> make config-all or something similar to have people fill in their >>>>> desired config info in all of the ncurses config sections would however >>>>> be a much better idea I think.. >>>>> -Garrett >>>>> >>>> Are you talking about make config-recursive? >>>> >>> Yes =\. Lemme guess.. that's already an option :)? >> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports buildtime >> thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either requires someone to be >> chained to the computer, so as to intercept all those screens, or to >> simply agree to install everything, with no inpput whatever. These are >> both bad options. > > No, you got it wrong. You run 'make config-recursive' and get all the > configure screens at once. Afterwards you can just run 'make install clean' > and go away. Read the ports(7) manpage. Oh, (I just erased a bunch, I should never use sarcasm, even when it's deserved). Do you have the 3 weeks it would take, to sit down and run thru all the configs for 10,000 ports? I don't know how many, exactly, but you'll have to agree it's huge. On top of this obviously ridiculous task, you would need to do a huge amount of investigation, because most of these option questions don't give nearly enough info to have anyone excepting 1% of the techies to be able to make reasonable decisions. OTOH, a well organized database describing a user's machine environment and their personal proclivities IS easily possible, and would cause all that decision making to be done automatically. For the great majority of users, it's a far, far better option. The sticky point, the one that needs to be done with psychological care, is to make it possible for non-technical users to correctly define their wants. Get that part correct, and then you have a nicely workable system that ports writers can use to guide their port's dependency decisions. > > If you're using sysutils/bsdadminscripts you can run 'portconfig-recursive -a' > before a 'portupgrade -a' in order to avoid having someone sit in front of the > machine during the portupgrade. Only if you are choosing some default value, we have no other system in place to be able to define what decisions to make. If you are proposing such a system, well, that's precisely what I'm doing. Otherwise, you face users with a gigantic task, answering questions that they are not equipped to answer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 19:56:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6182E16A41B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C6413C448 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 2340 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 19:56:26 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 19:56:25 -0000 Message-ID: <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:55:02 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:56:28 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> RW wrote: >>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 >>> Tino Engel wrote: >>> >>>> RW schrieb: >>>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 >>>>> Chuck Robey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports >>>>>> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either >>>>>> requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept >>>>>> all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with >>>>>> no inpput whatever. >>>>> That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make >>>>> config-recursive anytime you like. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on >>>> the whole ports tree though.... >>> It's not hard to script it though, something like the following would do >>> >>> #!/bin/sh >>> for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do >>> cd /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive done >> I can't believe you actually suggested this. First thing, it would take >> you HOURS to complete, and you better not make even one mistake, 'cause >> you couldn't even go back far enough to figure out what the name was of >> the port you muffed. Beyond that, since most ports ask questions formed >> with the name of the target dependency, aznd not asking things like "do >> you want such-and-such capability", so you have to be conversant with >> the names and capabilities of nearly 10,000 ports, to be able to do that >> job. > > It will only operate on 10000 ports if you have 10000 ports installed and a > majority of them is outdated. Are you seriously saying that a decision regarding what ports are to be installed should be made after they are installed? If you have 10,000 ports installed, you obviously have no need whatever to make any decision at all. Whether or not they are outdated is utterly irrelevant, because if they're installed, it may be inferred that you wanted them. It's the decision whether to install them or not that we're talking about. Upgrading has no bearing whatever on this. Why do you bring that up? > > I'm of the impression that you don't really know what the commands do you're > shown here and come to ridiculous conclusions because of this. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:00:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0207116A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:00:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6203213C447 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Nov 2007 20:00:47 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp044) with SMTP; 15 Nov 2007 21:00:47 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+V+UUhWqOV1fN6NB1mzpFp5CEGVmC8CeP1vTZbv1 EPWbw0/kC8Dv73 Message-ID: <473CA56C.4050405@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:00:44 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:00:51 -0000 Chuck Robey wrote: > [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >> Chuck Robey wrote: >>> RW wrote: >>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:54:33 +0100 >>>> Tino Engel wrote: >>>> >>>>> RW schrieb: >>>>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:10:29 -0500 >>>>>> Chuck Robey wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope not. We really need to move this out of being a ports >>>>>>> buildtime thing. Currently, to build ports in batch either >>>>>>> requires someone to be chained to the computer, so as to intercept >>>>>>> all those screens, or to simply agree to install everything, with >>>>>>> no inpput whatever. >>>>>> That's not correct, you can run make config-conditional or make >>>>>> config-recursive anytime you like. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> But not on a portupgrade... I don't want to run config-recursive on >>>>> the whole ports tree though.... >>>> It's not hard to script it though, something like the following >>>> would do >>>> >>>> #!/bin/sh >>>> for p in `pkg_version -ol'<' |awk '{ print $1 }'`; do >>>> cd /usr/ports/${p} && make config-recursive done >>> I can't believe you actually suggested this. First thing, it would take >>> you HOURS to complete, and you better not make even one mistake, 'cause >>> you couldn't even go back far enough to figure out what the name was of >>> the port you muffed. Beyond that, since most ports ask questions formed >>> with the name of the target dependency, aznd not asking things like "do >>> you want such-and-such capability", so you have to be conversant with >>> the names and capabilities of nearly 10,000 ports, to be able to do that >>> job. >> >> It will only operate on 10000 ports if you have 10000 ports installed >> and a >> majority of them is outdated. > > Are you seriously saying that a decision regarding what ports are to be > installed should be made after they are installed? If you have 10,000 > ports installed, you obviously have no need whatever to make any > decision at all. Whether or not they are outdated is utterly > irrelevant, because if they're installed, it may be inferred that you > wanted them. It's the decision whether to install them or not that > we're talking about. > > Upgrading has no bearing whatever on this. Why do you bring that up? > We're talking about a suggested shell script that calls config-recursive for outdated ports. I did not bring that up. I'm out of this. It's a bikeshed after all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:02:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9755016A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A3613C447 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 364803C04B8; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:02:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:02:15 -0800 From: Christopher Cowart To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115200215.GF43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="U5yJ31ax00IavOwq" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Subject: Kernel pty limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:02:15 -0000 --U5yJ31ax00IavOwq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I went to open up a new shell to our login server (recently rebuilt from Debian to FreeBSD) and found problems allocating a new pty. With a 256-pty limit, I'm surprised more people haven't had this problem. With team of 8 SysAdmins, each leaving about 30 windows open in screen sessions, 256 starts feeling a bit claustrophobic.=20 I found a questions thread from January 2006 and these PRs: standards/90896: not enough PTYs in the FreeBSD kern/25866: [patch] more than 256 ptys, up to 1302 ptys. The latter appears to have been kicking around since FreeBSD 4.3 (still open).=20 What can I do to help get that limit raised? Does anyone have a patch against 6.2? If not, would anyone be interested in writing one? Thanks for any help, --=20 Chris Cowart Lead Systems Administrator Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --U5yJ31ax00IavOwq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBRzylxiPHEDszU3zYAQLamhAAuTDINSvRwbbHmez4onsFbkvluLYLM3C7 sWlM1N7G5uNayQtM3Yov4WOhRGsfcG92k9e/f/fTo2biueff/3A5ndO+t2n3Xf5Y IBhe+VxFNpCVo+DMThNvaNcxFILv0lUi/qRfzoFYGhPaPJ1Msem8dOn/VV1QIGvn Gw5ENDXEs9BHV6ucIVObxfHZafU34JkZznLtqZFLJ/Cxk6b4tZat0oqHO+s5/EL4 CuqlKkXGqmvMHP8+F+yrx0Djvj4mUx6SuOcLmgvL8WIIbpAKkRrz2n7cTIOn7Dyy fEbLMY68CGpzAGOqg5H51V5Sf9IP5Ttq9XlT/FNF+E4t+xaEhkuxT5xSFIG/20ou gn6mfsIuGBxvHWTsMo9oAWVsg5w1yWRDlu8M8gFHsBrhZFWrgmh4j8KvqVLu7N6E jpdZJRlqv0cZFdZjYxH3pjk6YI4j6554vNVbIlGSpNfH1qeS6TRDCdU33jULzHRl EkNg2vb1y5PVPVmIdZaDvV5qpi73kVNhSsAuqd1g8q8NWBRl9gQpRr3Bbm55veH6 F6/pwDq81UsxiiQqi4siKpcnNfCvUR9isv0x6wIOzJ6vqfqGkmQaUw2CrJ9ev9qF 6K53TVdCkjrBVDPRhZTKvqiyAbKw/QpfQSXWE8NjlXyjZvimesRxASoOKJuJqgPk +e1maBR29Ik= =q8Dl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --U5yJ31ax00IavOwq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:03:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3516A418; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E610B13C46E; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:03:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 15:03:55 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id OAP72928; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:03:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 15:02:38 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18236.42524.414607.28482@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:03:40 -0500 To: infofarmer@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071113184602.GF46672@amilo.cenkes.org> References: <47373FC6.8080500@web.de> <20071113070200.GC46672@amilo.cenkes.org> <18233.59301.105746.169541@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <20071113184602.GF46672@amilo.cenkes.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , Tino Engel , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Neither linux-firefox nor linux-opera uses java plugin X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:03:58 -0000 Andrew Pantyukhin writes: > > > This dead body is beaten every other day. Personally, I download > > > flash movies and watch them with mplayer. > > > > I know about youtube-dl; is there a generic method for doing > > this with other Flash content? > > www/xpi-unplug > www/xpi-videodownloader Ahhh! Thank you. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:05:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F07D16A420 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:05:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5EC13C458 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:05:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 15:05:11 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id OAP73585; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:05:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 15:04:02 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18236.42608.917223.337252@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:05:04 -0500 To: josh.carroll@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0711151035n2d33e58fja03637a1a6a89a9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <18236.36570.116953.110494@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <8cb6106e0711151035n2d33e58fja03637a1a6a89a9e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Robert Huff , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: semi-OT: awk - field separator X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:05:12 -0000 Josh Carroll writes: > > What is the canonical way to get (FreeBSD default) awk to use a > > single double-quote as the field separator? I have tried variations > > on -F\\\" and -F"\"" and the best I can get is: > > awk -F'"' > > That's a single quote, then a double quote, then another single > quote. Or: That's the ticket. Thanks, everyone. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:20:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBB816A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 205B213C47E for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2594AE0395F for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.169.121] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IslCU-0003n7-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:34 +0100 Message-ID: <473CA9F9.3070107@web.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:09 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vVdevNbX+2Imb4mZWpvMr3tEoaVvpxA7xSFmU Lad8e6G252YN5MceKZ5KhuWI1WLoTYfouxA/3H4Q+OMPsoIbzl 1K3kAonGc= Cc: Subject: Diablo jre broken... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:20:36 -0000 Dear all, Diablo jre does wired things... The browserplugin alway crashes the browser... This is what I see from opera... Any idea? # # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x08626434, pid=73704, tid=0x8e80000 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (diablo-1.5.0_07-b01 mixed mode) # Problematic frame: # C [opera+0x5de434] XAllocColor+0x81fd8 # # An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid73704.log # # If you would like to submit a bug report, please write # a letter to freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org mailing list # Greez, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:35:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D4216A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB0913C447 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 22366 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 20:35:50 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 20:35:50 -0000 Message-ID: <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:34:26 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:35:51 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:23:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >> This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a >> regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed to >> set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the >> decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a >> dependency. > > Ugh. As far as I'm concerned, everything that pertains to system > configuration should always be human-readable and editable without > special tools. Trying to insulate things from human ability to directly > manipulate them tends to lead to rapidly increasing difficulty of > debugging configurations. I might have agreed with this, except, I have lived for a good while with the Gentoo "USE" lists, and I can tell you that having insufficent control over what goes ontp those lists causes havoc both with the users trying to select the proper wording of the lists, and the programmers trying to decide how to have a particular USE keyword represent a particular ports usage. You have to make certain that both users and programmers have a definite, firm meaning in mind when they use the keywords, because (in another's well chosen words) if you don't, USE lists are a PITA. It takes firmer control of meaning to make certain that the list doesn't devolve into that. This is actual experience talking, in this case. >> I left out one last point> there will be a reject list: a list of port >> names or regular expression patters, of ports that can't be installed >> under any circumstances. > > I *love* this idea! > > /me starts cobbling together a list of things that start with 'k' or 'g', > preparing for that future date when this is possible. > Yes, that was my own feeling. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:36:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1745516A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC9313C478 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61603AF32667 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:36:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.169.121] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IslRi-0002mn-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:36:18 +0100 Message-ID: <473CADA9.3060408@web.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:35:53 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <473CA9F9.3070107@web.de> In-Reply-To: <473CA9F9.3070107@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX183nYI3y0dZgJKZlt5zlDZxsQ7DFA7qTaxX+yPT iGqEREGax4VxvGfe6+1eFQTU1JCAp27tH1Y/4cOFLwHh+uaMAj +Hvk6cKao= Cc: Subject: Re: Diablo jre broken... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:36:21 -0000 Tino Engel schrieb: > Dear all, > > Diablo jre does wired things... > The browserplugin alway crashes the browser... > This is what I see from opera... > Any idea? > # > # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine: > # > # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x08626434, pid=73704, tid=0x8e80000 > # > # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (diablo-1.5.0_07-b01 mixed mode) > # Problematic frame: > # C [opera+0x5de434] XAllocColor+0x81fd8 > # > # An error report file with more information is saved as > hs_err_pid73704.log > # > # If you would like to submit a bug report, please write > # a letter to freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org mailing list > # > Greez, Tino > In addition, from firefox, my shell tells me as follows: Could not read ack from child process Plugin: Java VM process has died. plugin: java process exited with status 1 Could not start JavaVM! VM did not start up properly Could not read ack from child process Plugin: Java VM process has died. plugin: java process exited with status 1 Could not start JavaVM! VM did not start up properly So what is wrong here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:38:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00FA16A419 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7543E13C459 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 2171 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 20:38:56 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 20:38:56 -0000 Message-ID: <473CAE0C.4010607@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:37:32 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "[LoN]Kamikaze" References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <473CA56C.4050405@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <473CA56C.4050405@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:38:56 -0000 [LoN]Kamikaze wrote: >> Upgrading has no bearing whatever on this. Why do you bring that up? >> > > We're talking about a suggested shell script that calls config-recursive for > outdated ports. I did not bring that up. > > I'm out of this. It's a bikeshed after all. OK, I can agree with that. I let my mail pile up a little, and finally caught the last few of these, but I'm finished. We'll get back to arguing on it when I get something coded up. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:39:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E910B16A4A5 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D303213C459 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:39:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 06EA13C04BA; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:39:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:39:12 -0800 From: Christopher Cowart Message-ID: <20071115203912.GJ43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> References: <20071115200215.GF43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> <473CABC3.6090604@daleco.biz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ukZ3tWq1IjZw6zEx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473CABC3.6090604@daleco.biz> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel pty limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:39:14 -0000 --ukZ3tWq1IjZw6zEx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 02:27:47PM -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Christopher Cowart wrote: >> Hello, >> I went to open up a new shell to our login server (recently rebuilt from >> Debian to FreeBSD) and found problems allocating a new pty. With a >> 256-pty limit, I'm surprised more people haven't had this problem. With >> team of 8 SysAdmins, each leaving about 30 windows open in screen >> sessions, 256 starts feeling a bit claustrophobic.=20 >=20 > Hmm, 8 guys root on one boxen? Sounds like a "cushy" job! > Got an IP and a couple of partners I could play xtank with? >=20 > J/k, of course. :-D >> I found a questions thread from January 2006 and these PRs: >> standards/90896: not enough PTYs in the FreeBSD >> kern/25866: [patch] more than 256 ptys, up to 1302 ptys. >=20 > There was also discussion on hackers@ at the time[1], and a > mention from rwatson@ that a new tty_pts.c and support in libc > for this was added to HEAD then[2]; I haven't checked, but I'm > assuming it's still in the new 7 branch and will be a part > of 7.0 Real Soon Now(tm), if that's any comfort. There may > be patches available, there was some discussion. Also, if it > *IS* in 7.0, I guess you could holler for a MFC. I suppose that counts as Good News. Does this mean the change will be part of the increasingly anticipated 7.0 release? In the meantime,=20 I'll have to use /dev/bat to remind the team to close their windows. --=20 Chris Cowart Lead Systems Administrator Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --ukZ3tWq1IjZw6zEx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBRzyucCPHEDszU3zYAQLSrhAAhPMLf58LqAlIA6dp27gwTeCZUKlbj+wY xL52kfo1DHlwN2IPKk0vi4cILi+0LfFOruHqXWv52b8kFaRbLSyAQPLCgIbrePGp KbVuv1QwrPGdpDJgnUw/G6Bp+wzgHIrw6Y5s2sTwA6DywEwZvjwJBhvZk7NMUJB3 NracRAO4SHGRsPGyAIZ4rrBJAN6gNaMeKaAG4xvWghUEifglck3bZsK6yCwjv51G pPYpdjCNt9vYmMI5b9mbxSIBaFdKbJkl2IwC2J5fnlsNWp0bYvzaa51lUeRJWAud rfuVJbIQ2+aeEuW2Qn+z0NeCXcQfz7SbgXcInz0JzVRKbZzgJWrO/5s4EVKck4Dd QFjPuTixbvWkEpM4G2u4OBRrrTLuZk2BKA7+lKMKOUI3+Dwfr0ZLZeGUKciS4FbU gBnwCxpo1DgLJ8fqcN2BTGk3lQBiKGmKbBeg7m1fodmN7PkQjM/iH0X8vRCie9qg 10FKppc3sPpydcCj7EqzUdOEQvOn4aFyeArqyD7LpW9P50e7L54tyiXN1NEGRsEE QcX7jT6wJM/7zyqmWl+nQl+llTk80MzLE0UAFSTgFe6acOFiS3d+DhoyLti0BQ2W JbPt0Xw+QiTYbNprw980hpNQva8fUj9yHpu6bgnKyJ5298evlWT/mGA2/Ju3HyCj Suf0KgOIEhY= =xeww -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ukZ3tWq1IjZw6zEx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:41:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E2816A469 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F58B13C506 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:41:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FFFAF33300 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:39:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.169.121] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1IslUt-0000PX-00 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:39:35 +0100 Message-ID: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:39:10 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19on7DEEPY1//wl/r9YRuO4pZQ47/TQSq+djkIy 7gBOYeww/PI6DWUPhINXrARVLzI1Y1tTZ+qJAb/PnCBI47No6V XaisrzyLQ= Cc: Subject: Where is pkgdb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:41:06 -0000 Which port do I have to install to get pkgdb? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:43:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB1B16A468 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A00613C448 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFKS4EL005386; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:28:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iaD4mln4nGzM; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:27:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAFKRrei005382; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:27:53 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <473CABC3.6090604@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:27:47 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org References: <20071115200215.GF43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071115200215.GF43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: Kernel pty limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:15 -0000 Christopher Cowart wrote: > Hello, > > I went to open up a new shell to our login server (recently rebuilt from > Debian to FreeBSD) and found problems allocating a new pty. With a > 256-pty limit, I'm surprised more people haven't had this problem. With > team of 8 SysAdmins, each leaving about 30 windows open in screen > sessions, 256 starts feeling a bit claustrophobic. Hmm, 8 guys root on one boxen? Sounds like a "cushy" job! Got an IP and a couple of partners I could play xtank with? J/k, of course. :-D > I found a questions thread from January 2006 and these PRs: > standards/90896: not enough PTYs in the FreeBSD > kern/25866: [patch] more than 256 ptys, up to 1302 ptys. > There was also discussion on hackers@ at the time[1], and a mention from rwatson@ that a new tty_pts.c and support in libc for this was added to HEAD then[2]; I haven't checked, but I'm assuming it's still in the new 7 branch and will be a part of 7.0 Real Soon Now(tm), if that's any comfort. There may be patches available, there was some discussion. Also, if it *IS* in 7.0, I guess you could holler for a MFC. > The latter appears to have been kicking around since FreeBSD 4.3 (still > open). > > What can I do to help get that limit raised? Does anyone have a patch > against 6.2? If not, would anyone be interested in writing one? > > Thanks for any help, > HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- Break into jail and claim police brutality. [1] http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/hackers/2006-01/msg00177.html [2] http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/hackers/2006-01/msg00306.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:43:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C2816A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F3013C46B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:1::5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF1730114; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:28 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Laszlo Nagy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:54 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Laszlo wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many memory >> can it use for caching file data from disk? >> >> It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the cache > it already does It may seem strange since it's generally accepted that you can never have enough disk cache, but FreeBSD apparently doesn't actually use all the free memory for caching. By default it uses up to 256MB for buffering/caching and there's no way it can use all available memory on i386 in machines with more than 1GB installed since the buffer/cache is allocated from KVM and the default maximum is 1GB. You can increase the amount of memory used, but it might not help - there's a thread on performance@ from 2004 which describes how it all works; see http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-performance/2004-April/000785.html The information there is quite old now though so I don't know if things are done differently in 6.x. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:48:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9C16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E430413C4BE for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 5B1C63C049A; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:48:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:48:15 -0800 From: Christopher Cowart To: Tino Engel Message-ID: <20071115204815.GL43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Tino Engel , questions@freebsd.org References: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FTsVDVnBYKo0tCDH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is pkgdb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:48:16 -0000 --FTsVDVnBYKo0tCDH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:39:10PM +0100, Tino Engel wrote: > Which port do I have to install to get pkgdb? $ pkg_info -W `which pkgdb` /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb was installed by package portupgrade-2.2.2_4,2 I recommend installing ports-mgmt/port-maintenance-tools when building a system.=20 --=20 Chris Cowart Lead Systems Administrator Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --FTsVDVnBYKo0tCDH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iQIVAwUBRzywjyPHEDszU3zYAQLQug//eXH3HQf/549CrC0Qzqry0Iafhq4BxMLx 1Yy98NqmnT6hifVn+kW5meUVNux/CvWEfFXpJquXqedN4k/DfEr2j/jST0MNCANp KURjqzjEFfz2DnLfe4ksGQHjtBPR64LsZcJJksdb/U145SYr4ljjfk/FXzGxrCK0 XOMGY2W0oW2MtY/PhnozWNPmDSGIUxOwOHKiFMgsuDQA1aY0fV18gfTBAfKLXZg5 MOxZHT5o36lNyLhV82cR89gsVYMZKBle5KnjoMxI81PQmNUsbjtGwD4Ju6May35E V0eCLhZQSPXRoUeXkXYXUBVM/kVEkRoPti9XDodSva8TPBTz2TJexst5FXiPNLvd yXbCe1tjLe6u9oeTxb1CHLCUDK8xbVoECUg4GKXRoPFCN8Fb51jkgKY/fT50EXIz R8mCZPGdMEgLRud0RQOcw+6l8x1iUK8yg89xzLKACOkEnzK9gB/B1Ls7hHC4j3xd 16pGve/k4kg+NOxqG9gGHACf6SK5EahzBKqvTjp98xZNtgdKBs8oIK1hdzG+Bzhc zhKDhi0ELcjH8F81UQ0HWaIkeiuq0UBiLxnO6jh4j6fWA7j9XcbCJiWgIdIp+5qa nQBQgNTHhWSD3Ojhw6/JukKxYLGdc+OxSTMrRGg9RVicVby/MffvGnRKFa9I1sNe 6CZJFJ/y9hw= =fFmK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FTsVDVnBYKo0tCDH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:50:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF4C16A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDBA13C48A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:50:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D582AE05EA4; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:50:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.169.121] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1Isley-0008Tk-00; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:50:00 +0100 Message-ID: <473CB0DF.4030008@web.de> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:49:35 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Robey References: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> <473CAF77.7000601@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: <473CAF77.7000601@chuckr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+7og0UhB75QDHkS4kU5AQf8W3WGa3hq9ZQe1Fv XoQXRgKd84b6Eh3d/RV5iaBSFSwFm2UhIpAfFFWindcj2o09H5 Er/sbnfm0= Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is pkgdb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:50:01 -0000 Chuck Robey schrieb: > Tino Engel wrote: >> Which port do I have to install to get pkgdb? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > it's already there in /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db > Well I found it in portupgrade... Thx. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 20:56:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C4B16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6629513C448 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 26084 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 20:49:54 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 20:49:54 -0000 Message-ID: <473CB09F.6010808@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:48:31 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel , questions@freebsd.org References: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> <20071115204815.GL43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071115204815.GL43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Where is pkgdb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:56:34 -0000 Christopher Cowart wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:39:10PM +0100, Tino Engel wrote: >> Which port do I have to install to get pkgdb? > > $ pkg_info -W `which pkgdb` > /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb was installed by package portupgrade-2.2.2_4,2 > > I recommend installing ports-mgmt/port-maintenance-tools when building a > system. > Oh, yeah? I thought that the pkgdb.db that I found in /var/db/pkg was installed by ports, but I guess not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 21:02:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC0416A47A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907FB13C4C4 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 52 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 21:02:18 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 21:02:18 -0000 Message-ID: <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:00:55 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:02:19 -0000 RW wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:55:02 -0500 > Chuck Robey wrote: > > >> Are you seriously saying that a decision regarding what ports are to >> be installed should be made after they are installed? If you have >> 10,000 ports installed, you obviously have no need whatever to make >> any decision at all. Whether or not they are outdated is utterly >> irrelevant, because if they're installed, it may be inferred that you >> wanted them. It's the decision whether to install them or not that >> we're talking about. > > > > What you don't appear to understand is that the Option Framework allows > a user to recursively set options for ports *before* they are installed. > So to configure the whole of Gnome, you can simply do this: > > # cd /usr/port/x11/gnome2 && make config-recursive > > The reason I mentioned the script is that upgrades are the only part of > the process that isn't directly supported by the ports system, you need > something to catch the ports that have changed options, or you may > waste time. This requires a script, but new installs are completely > trivial. I've already deleted the message that kicked me off, but it looked to me that you were talking about the 10,000 ports I was talking about, and that meant you were referring to new installs, not upgrades. If it were me, I would think that upgrades should probably follow the same path as the original install, no? In some small number of cases, there would be brand new options that would not be possible to predict from the decisions already taken for the orignal system, but that would be the exception, not the rule. Regardless, as an unintended side effect of the system I'm talking about, such items would be automatically taken care of. The only recurring task would be, as new options find themselves required, users would be asked to register the setting for a new keyword. This would probably mean something on the order of maybe one or two new words a month to decide on, something that would hardly be a worry. I do agree, the system I'm talking about, if I was trying to justify it only on the basis of upgrades alone, would not be justified. Sort of like the tail wagging the dog, too much work for too little gain, but as a nice side effect, it's acceptable. BUT if you were talking only about upgrades, then I kinda think, personally, that you probably should instantiated a new thread, not used this one. Hmm? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 21:11:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE6C16A552 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:11:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0DE13C465 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:11:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 30820 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2007 20:44:58 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 15 Nov 2007 20:44:58 -0000 Message-ID: <473CAF77.7000601@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:35 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> In-Reply-To: <473CAE6E.3050202@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is pkgdb? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:11:41 -0000 Tino Engel wrote: > Which port do I have to install to get pkgdb? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" it's already there in /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 21:20:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFAD16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QI=fcf86e1f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA64013C46A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QI=fcf86e1f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E914D1643F3 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:51:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39675D04FF; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:51:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:51:31 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:20:19 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:55:02 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: > Are you seriously saying that a decision regarding what ports are to > be installed should be made after they are installed? If you have > 10,000 ports installed, you obviously have no need whatever to make > any decision at all. Whether or not they are outdated is utterly > irrelevant, because if they're installed, it may be inferred that you > wanted them. It's the decision whether to install them or not that > we're talking about. What you don't appear to understand is that the Option Framework allows a user to recursively set options for ports *before* they are installed. So to configure the whole of Gnome, you can simply do this: # cd /usr/port/x11/gnome2 && make config-recursive The reason I mentioned the script is that upgrades are the only part of the process that isn't directly supported by the ports system, you need something to catch the ports that have changed options, or you may waste time. This requires a script, but new installs are completely trivial. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 21:28:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D329016A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB8D13C459 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from per-olof.nilsson@comhem.se) Received: from c83-249-53-135.bredband.comhem.se ([83.249.53.135]:52869) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IsmG8-0005Ic-3F; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:28:24 +0100 From: Peo Nilsson To: Lowell Gilbert In-Reply-To: <44oddvtmvu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> References: <1195144649.48014.4.camel@zeus.se> <44oddvtmvu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-AuENCZz/9ypkAsexCyk7" Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:27:17 +0100 Message-Id: <1195162037.1436.25.camel@zeus.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Originating-IP: 83.249.53.135 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1IsmG8-0005Ic-3F. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1IsmG8-0005Ic-3F e196264bad3dae91b6334432bd9aab92 Cc: FreeBSD quest-list Subject: Re: gnupg keysize X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:28:25 -0000 --=-AuENCZz/9ypkAsexCyk7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 12:54 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > Peo Nilsson writes: > No one is forcing you to follow standards. > However, standards are useful when communicating with other people. I agree. When it comes to algoritms used and the functionality that is offered. The size of the keys have nothing to do with that.=20 People are already using different sizes of their keys. --=20 /Peo ---------------------------------------------- - PGP signed/encrypted emails is prefered -=20 ---------------------------------------------- --=-AuENCZz/9ypkAsexCyk7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHPLmxgWSfflYlIbwRAjQcAKDPRtWGgxuBHo/TvijQJBje7jTQ1QCg6x+y uMWoVVDRGuors4oQTaXzuHE= =Fw/M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-AuENCZz/9ypkAsexCyk7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 21:43:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A708016A420 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QI=fcf86e1f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EA013C457 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QI=fcf86e1f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A49CD05A3 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:43:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:16 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:43:20 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:00:55 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: > I've already deleted the message that kicked me off, but it looked to > me that you were talking about the 10,000 ports I was talking about, > and that meant you were referring to new installs, not upgrades. Why would anyone want to configure ports they don't want to install? > BUT if you were talking only about upgrades, then I kinda think, > personally, that you probably should instantiated a new thread, not > used this one. Hmm? Is that supposed to irony, because before you hijacked this thread it was about preventing options screens being brought up at build-time, and pausing the build. Your ideas do absolutely nothing to address this issue because, they would only reduce the number of options, not eliminate them - unless you are intending to radically dumb-down the system. As a case in point take a look at the options for www/squid, I don't believe for a moment that your scheme could handle more than a small fraction of them. If people want an easier desktop system, they already have the pc-bsd and DesktopBSD versions of FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 22:03:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1791E16A418 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-90.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-90.bluehost.com [74.220.211.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8B9013C4C6 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 17793 invoked by uid 0); 15 Nov 2007 22:03:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2007 22:03:33 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ismo9-0002nJ-6N for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:03:33 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAFM47vW076571 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:04:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAFM47bf076570 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:04:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:04:07 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115220407.GB76155@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:03:34 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:43:16PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:00:55 -0500 > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > I've already deleted the message that kicked me off, but it looked to > > me that you were talking about the 10,000 ports I was talking about, > > and that meant you were referring to new installs, not upgrades. > > Why would anyone want to configure ports they don't want to install? I've been following this discussion without participating, but I have a question: How does that question follow from the preceding, quoted statement? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] John Kenneth Galbraith: "If all else fails, immortality can always be assured through spectacular error." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 22:16:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B56816A47C for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-46.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-46.bluehost.com [69.89.18.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37F7513C45A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 2393 invoked by uid 0); 15 Nov 2007 22:16:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Nov 2007 22:16:04 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Isn0G-0005VW-La for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:04 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAFMGd4s076643 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAFMGcKb076642 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:16:38 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071115221638.GC76155@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:16:05 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 03:34:26PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:23:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > >>This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a > >>regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed to > >>set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the > >>decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a > >>dependency. > > > >Ugh. As far as I'm concerned, everything that pertains to system > >configuration should always be human-readable and editable without > >special tools. Trying to insulate things from human ability to directly > >manipulate them tends to lead to rapidly increasing difficulty of > >debugging configurations. > > I might have agreed with this, except, I have lived for a good while > with the Gentoo "USE" lists, and I can tell you that having insufficent > control over what goes ontp those lists causes havoc both with the users > trying to select the proper wording of the lists, and the programmers > trying to decide how to have a particular USE keyword represent a > particular ports usage. You have to make certain that both users and > programmers have a definite, firm meaning in mind when they use the > keywords, because (in another's well chosen words) if you don't, USE > lists are a PITA. It takes firmer control of meaning to make certain > that the list doesn't devolve into that. > > This is actual experience talking, in this case. I don't see how that translates into "the user should not be allowed to view what's going on behind the scenes in a text editor if (s)he wants to." -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] W. Somerset Maugham: "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 22:20:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F8916A46C for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B3713C468; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <473CC62A.70300@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:20:26 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Staudinger References: <1134a9e0711141440w49740a0dvf9d73e06ba122eca@mail.gmail.com> <473B8062.8030508@FreeBSD.org> <1134a9e0711150816s51b88f37uf73b3f9ac0f10267@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1134a9e0711150816s51b88f37uf73b3f9ac0f10267@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2 (i386) on Opteron? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:20:25 -0000 Mark Staudinger wrote: > On 11/14/07, Kris Kennaway wrote: >> Mark Staudinger wrote: >>> I wasn't sure if -questions or -current was the right group, but I >> searched >>> both before posting. >>> >>> I'm trying to begin testing FreeBSD-7.0-Beta2, and I have a mixture of >> Intel >>> and AMD-based machines that I work with. >>> I'm using the i386 release. I've previously used FreeBSD-4.9R and 6.2Rfor >>> i386 on these machines, but cannot get >>> 7.0-Beta2 to work on the AMD machines. These are 100- and 1000-series >>> dual-core Opteron CPUs. >>> >>> I've tried: >>> Updating using source from 6.2-Release >>> Installing from 7.0-Beta2 CD >>> Installing from 7.0-CURRENT-200710-i386 snapshot CD >>> >>> I see a variety of errors, including: >>> >>> 1) BTX Halted >>> >>> 2) errors when running /bin/sh from /etc/rc >>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Undefined symbol "opterr" referenced from >> COPY >>> relocation in sh >>> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Invalid file format (on multiple binaries) >>> various other "undefined symbol" messages >>> signal 10, signal 11 on multiple binaries >> Sounds like you might have a corrupted installation. Did you verify the >> MD5 checksum on the ISO images? >> >>> Has anyone successfully used 7.0-Beta2 for i386 on AMD Opteron-based >>> platform? Any suggestions for tracking >>> down the problem? >> Yes, it works on mine. >> >> Kris >> >> > I just compared the md5 sum and they match. Considering that I used 2 > different CD sources, > as well as a source update, all with similar results, it would seem unlikely > that a corrupted file/image > could be at fault. And of course, the same hard CD can be used to install > to an Intel-based machine > with no failures. > > I've tried 3 different MB/ CPU combinations. All are Supermicro-branded, > and all have the HT1000 > ServerWorks chipset. I've just found Jeff Robertson's post: > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20071109114636.Y639 > > Perhaps he can confirm the behavior. In the meantime I will try the patch > posted by John Baldwin > yesterday on -current, and test that with both IDE and MMIO modes. Yes, that sounds likely. Thanks for trying the patch. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 22:53:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869FF16A41A for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A47F13C45B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tethys.ocean@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id s27so323742ele for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:53:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=QbBIvef4qlkQWpCXknDBOadh2to/Q+ugFnXl47bGPbs=; b=PBvld5kU49Cus07w0kpBdnlrPtifkXw0lj0DzhLko/ofKuv8nrnukcAA2hQc8IPXPuNLE5GOrQSCyaiWa2QtKoLT+I2vpWuyFfpCqvSfUyygqMpLXb21YX0tF6NRYK8tmu+FDgSbK8BanZ1LCDO3D4jvQZvbUAjV9VL69aFv4MI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PQRL6isAnvj5df9r7udn9PTRdYMnrt1n42zhL3YOKNs5M8XyvsecsbszKhsqpfFmS7YwHs1mRR5F0HUCV1fd7xPmSklwRdFOa8eZEZFCHhVbZ1+dF1rRLlrLYEhlZTtYKjbX3KoCN7paoG6w3iEFsqUL42J3m9gsJ+XPAkz/Iz4= Received: by 10.142.128.6 with SMTP id a6mr464672wfd.1195167219643; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.136.20 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:53:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <235b80000711151453r4536c83evadeea20615d048b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:53:39 +0200 From: "tethys ocean" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <235b80000711150717x5dc8d3b4w3b0093c74f2bc834@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: PHP 5.2.4 FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE squirrelmail-1.4.11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:53:41 -0000 Hi, I am so sorry for make you to busy such kind of silly question. Since I solved myself... I must make ownership of webmail directory www. Now it is working ... in FreeBSD 6.2 Stable no need to change file ownership it remains root:wheel but 6.3 PRERELEASE We must chage to www:www /usr/local/www/apache22/data/webmail 2 drwxr-xr-x 14 www www 512 Nov 14 01:36 webmail Although in httpd.conf I have got such comment line in below it doesnt work out but now. AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps For this meaning what change is in 6.3 I didnt understant. I solve by by chance, trial and error. Sincerely On Nov 15, 2007 5:17 PM, tethys ocean wrote: > I am running with my newserver on FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE PHP 5.2.4 > squirrelmail-1.4.11 now I cant configure squirrelmail. Whenever I > write http://my IP/webmail I am take some *php page that is > download..... such like content > > > ************************************************************************************** > > /** > * index.php > * > * Redirects to the login page. > * > * @copyright © 1999-2007 The SquirrelMail Project Team > * @license http://opensource.org/licenses/gpl-license.php GNU Public License > * @version $Id: index.php 12127 2007-01-13 20:07:24Z kink $ > * @package squirrelmail > */ > > // Are we configured yet? > if( ! file_exists ( 'config/config.php' ) ) { > echo '

ERROR: Config file ' . > '"config/config.php" not found. You need to ' . > 'configure SquirrelMail before you can use it.

'; > exit; > } > > // If we are, go ahead to the login page. > header('Location: src/login.php'); > > ?> > > ****************************************************************************** > > > and also I cant browse configtest page and also test.php > > I wonder this trouble is in my php config? or squirrelmail config?? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 23:16:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51DCD16A421 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QI=fcf86e1f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C7B13C467 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QI=fcf86e1f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FFCD0501 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:16:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:15:56 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071115231556.0b3a37a4@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071115220407.GB76155@demeter.hydra> References: <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20071115220407.GB76155@demeter.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:16:02 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:04:07 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:43:16PM +0000, RW wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:00:55 -0500 > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > > > I've already deleted the message that kicked me off, but it > > > looked to me that you were talking about the 10,000 ports I was > > > talking about, and that meant you were referring to new installs, > > > not upgrades. > > > > Why would anyone want to configure ports they don't want to > > install? > > I've been following this discussion without participating, but I have > a question: > > How does that question follow from the preceding, quoted statement? > I assumed that he meant all ports, 10,000 is of the same order of magnitude as the total number of ports (27000), but an absurdly high figure for a real system. Actually the total number of ports in the entire tree that support options is only 1447. And out of 821 ports installed on my KDE desktop machine only 140 do. The idea that anyone ever has to configure 10,000 ports is nonsense. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 15 23:55:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCD616A417 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A0513C474 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from Macintosh-3.local (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAFNt4tK023196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:55:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <473CDC50.2050706@enabled.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:54:56 -0600 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: portmanager and apache2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:55:17 -0000 Hi there, I keep running portmanager and throughout the portmanager run apache2.0 is getting built. I am tryign to get that to stop because apache2.2 is installed, configured, and runing. I have it explicitly ignored in the /usr/local/etc/portmanager/pm-020.conf access1# grep apache pm-020.conf IGNORE|www/apache13*| IGNORE|www/apache13| IGNORE|www/apache13-*| IGNORE|www/apache13*-*| IGNORE|www/apache-1.3*| IGNORE|www/apache20| IGNORE|www/apache20*| IGNORE|www/apache21| IGNORE|www/apache21*| access1# pkg_info | grep portmana portmanager-0.4.1_9 FreeBSD installed ports status and safe update utility access1# How can I figure out why it is getting built? Cheers, Noah From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 00:16:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4C116A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-47.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-47.bluehost.com [69.89.18.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE00913C4D9 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:16:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 17179 invoked by uid 0); 16 Nov 2007 00:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 00:16:40 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Isosx-0003sg-Vz for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:16:40 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAG0HEjM077176 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAG0HEJe077175 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:17:13 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071116001713.GF76155@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20071115220407.GB76155@demeter.hydra> <20071115231556.0b3a37a4@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071115231556.0b3a37a4@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:16:50 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:15:56PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:04:07 -0700 > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 09:43:16PM +0000, RW wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:00:55 -0500 > > > Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've already deleted the message that kicked me off, but it > > > > looked to me that you were talking about the 10,000 ports I was > > > > talking about, and that meant you were referring to new installs, > > > > not upgrades. > > > > > > Why would anyone want to configure ports they don't want to > > > install? > > > > I've been following this discussion without participating, but I have > > a question: > > > > How does that question follow from the preceding, quoted statement? > > > > I assumed that he meant all ports, 10,000 is of the same order of > magnitude as the total number of ports (27000), but an absurdly high > figure for a real system. > > Actually the total number of ports in the entire tree that support > options is only 1447. And out of 821 ports installed on my KDE desktop > machine only 140 do. > > The idea that anyone ever has to configure 10,000 ports is nonsense. Ah, thank you. Somehow, I missed that implication (even though I personally have far, far fewer ports installed on this machine than 10k, too). -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Amazon.com interview candidate: "When C++ is your hammer, everything starts to look like your thumb." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 00:48:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8AA16A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tknox@visar.dev.prognet.com) Received: from jor-el.real.com (jor-el.real.com [207.188.23.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C68513C461 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tknox@visar.dev.prognet.com) Received: from visar.dev.prognet.com ([::ffff:172.23.2.53]) by jor-el.real.com with esmtp; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:38:00 -0800 id 00094017.473CE668.00001818 Received: (qmail 14444 invoked by uid 500); 16 Nov 2007 00:37:59 -0000 Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:37:59 -0800 From: Timothy Knox To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20071116003759.GA14371@real.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BOfH: Yes User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: Subject: Configuring boot0 to boot from the second drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:48:11 -0000 I have a very old FreeBSD box (3.3). It has three disks installed. When boot0 comes up, I get the usual "F1 for this disk, F5 for the next drive". Every time it reboots, I always have to do F5 then F1 to boot the correct drive. Unfortunately, this makes automatic restarts in the event of a power hiccough (an all too common occurrence around here) not restart correctly. Is there some way I can *persuade* boot0 to always go to the second drive, first bootable section? If so, please enlighten me, I pray. Thank you, very much. :-) -- Timothy Knox "The road to Perl6 is paved with good intentions." -- Peter da Silva (inspired by Yossi Kreinin) on http://we.hates-software.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 01:35:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5973116A46E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CB713C458 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAG1Z0we037465 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:35:10 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <473B6AF1.4010604@smo.de> <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time (was: impressive buildworld time) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:35:55 -0000 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) takes ~2 > > hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to do that). My > > other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 hours to build kernel > > and world (Celeron 500...). > > > > Just to supply some numbers that "go the other direction" :-) > > With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the foreground > (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig (amd64) p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 -------------------------------------------------------------- real 63m8.635s user 102m44.096s sys 10m44.889s [root@athena /usr/src]# heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 cheers, -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 01:53:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DF416A469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:53:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D581D13C469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:53:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so178740ana for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:53:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=3mdnh8cTm0q1JKUK+9NPemZXsjqh28HyVfxlTpsbu20=; b=Bjgk1T7+xtrJN1A4gpEDsE7GSpiAiOnwIupGVsTYUW7zvMIop7SqLuEanqxkagCB/9L0cpEtcbE+VYMSpBhLGozoQBzAVEQAQjwDGGq524eiHK1n02Fu5wd1vIajxmdlFZFuHkgDRNeAUyKGIWqVGZTD9tY8mLbt0q64xEjnBzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ibCxtHkVKhrg1vtJO/7ZwMJFamWHi/hubjEfRK8FDOVM4yKJ1vLuOa/8PGUodja8QSS2BzAxAM0FXZHzn+ZunoVRuGteB1gp7Q4WhudRkx/7UQ9Gq0W1bWqDVyxzyfEhU9muZ1AmSSUSYFRFpNeTJoaeX/VGLSntMEsz6WtFBFU= Received: by 10.100.211.8 with SMTP id j8mr1977066ang.1195176401001; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.68.3 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:26:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:26:40 -0200 From: luizbcampos@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: cups web browser access... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:53:12 -0000 Dear Sirs I use FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 and I installed cups. When I type in "http://localhost:631" I got the message "server not found". Suggestions... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 02:25:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7B916A420 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168113C4D9 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:25:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 70so687243wra for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:25:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.96.7 with SMTP id t7mr2219483agb.1195178165320; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q34sm3800272wrq.2007.11.15.17.56.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:56:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:56:08 -0500 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <473CDC50.2050706@enabled.com> References: <473CDC50.2050706@enabled.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0IyMg7+5fri vGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1t k89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDYIpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFHoo+5Sd lf/tWp6DJObHzDff7Mrhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kILrLv5ikK1 5DyF3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sCri6PHpq9dR QsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2gnBkgWnQ/hWIPQ2m6ilKKz TJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVrGIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhLkBUsZyQXDxxIWG H0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1Bd77AqTqzlX6MlVv4 2gecAUFc9NfhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLAEugLVywa9PyzUATjut hxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltVsoBKXh+ATB9KqEodufgO UDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENXyOfpFXvQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGm m142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffRwC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Message-Id: <20071115204825.7D52.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.42 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: portmanager and apache2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 02:25:27 -0000 On November 15, 2007 at 06:54PM Noah wrote: > access1# grep apache pm-020.conf > IGNORE|www/apache13*| > IGNORE|www/apache13| > IGNORE|www/apache13-*| > IGNORE|www/apache13*-*| > IGNORE|www/apache-1.3*| > IGNORE|www/apache20| > IGNORE|www/apache20*| > IGNORE|www/apache21| > IGNORE|www/apache21*| > access1# pkg_info | grep portmana > portmanager-0.4.1_9 FreeBSD installed ports status and safe update utility > access1# > > How can I figure out why it is getting built? Make sure you only have apache-2.2.x installed, check the portmanager.log file and see if another program is trying to build apache as a dependency. -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 03:00:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8CC616A46B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:00:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4F313C47E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:00:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 9416 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 02:59:57 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2007 02:59:57 -0000 Message-ID: <473D075B.1060900@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:58:35 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:00:06 -0000 RW wrote: > On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:00:55 -0500 > Chuck Robey wrote: > > >> I've already deleted the message that kicked me off, but it looked to >> me that you were talking about the 10,000 ports I was talking about, >> and that meant you were referring to new installs, not upgrades. > > Why would anyone want to configure ports they don't want to install? > >> BUT if you were talking only about upgrades, then I kinda think, >> personally, that you probably should instantiated a new thread, not >> used this one. Hmm? > > Is that supposed to irony, because before you hijacked this thread it > was about preventing options screens being brought up at build-time, > and pausing the build. > > Your ideas do absolutely nothing to address this issue because, they > would only reduce the number of options, not eliminate them - unless > you are intending to radically dumb-down the system. As a case in point > take a look at the options for www/squid, I don't believe for a moment > that your scheme could handle more than a small fraction of them. > > If people want an easier desktop system, they already have the pc-bsd > and DesktopBSD versions of FreeBSD. I need to take exception to that. My claim (and I have the messages in which I made it) is that the setting of options needed these changes: (1) To move the time that they need to be set, from ports compile time to system install time, and (2) To always phrase the questions in a form that non-technical users can field, without extensive research that they are not equipped for, and (3) To find a way to urge both ports-writers and ports users to share the same notion of what the options refer to. I think (I may be wrong, correct me if I am) that you were taking exception, above, to my first point, right? You may correct me on that, but on whether or not it will actually succeed in this is what all this discussion is about. I did not bring this up without bringing the idea past local friends, and defending it there, so I think I can do that. Do i need to requote all of my arguments about that here (and really, by now, boring folks to sleep) or can you look up the older posts? If you've lost them, I've always had problems myself getting really recent posts out of the archives, so write me privately, I will be glad to send them to you. I do believe that it will perfectly accomplish exactly what you claim "do absolutely nothing to address this issue", they will 100% move the work from ports build-time to system install-time. This is pretty simple to prove, so I can't follow your assertion, and one of us must have a disconnect here. My points #2 and #3 are more arguable; I believe in them, but I guess an argument could be made against this. There was a second part of my argument, also (a list of regular-exceptions that ports, if they match, would be rejected from), but that part would have somewhat less effect (some, but less obvious). Both parts of my suggestion are things I'm pushing, but at this point, I'm only at the point that I am completely convinced that enough folks do agree with it to justify my writing the Makefile mods. This isn't to say that the work I do will be approved and brought in, you should know the FreeBSD development pattern well enough to realize this, so lets not lose our cool. Save that for the next time it's brought up, ON THE PORTS LIST, not questions. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 03:08:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BCF16A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E819A13C459 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:08:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryallsd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so554372rvb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:08:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=5+svAORUlFTovCprvqd6dcYzN9BRqFtytmkSPTtGlAg=; b=JR6j8E/aJPPBsNepIbPxztUsrZyOWqqhZWamNymWd9HopfcIsjMiAHgpqnB6mY+MMAsMUEEyuQsPFdx+KgKlC+OnJrqyg+DVB+rpOeO7jRR9HkBFUlygHCZ+MEyB1NAqSieTUNsU7JdiPsD+38k67ifIj3DeQ6kve1VUNF0jDKA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=sBEq2lHsBMncwAuQoLx60K0yct3BEdBUJ7RkEUAznSzaRSz7gy5WZ7OAnS4OYi/4zIU3XS2/DrUUhhwFu1kA4VXThk9OQqiVhFoCA+GOZSDmH10Hgo2KXE42BZZZIAsb07TAjrNjWps/68JLmlo5hXAt4PspYZSgA2plii/1Sc8= Received: by 10.114.148.1 with SMTP id v1mr664681wad.1195180921893; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.78.4 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:42:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:42:01 -0800 From: "Derrick Ryalls" To: "luizbcampos@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups web browser access... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:08:32 -0000 On 11/15/07, luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Sirs > > > I use FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 and I installed cups. When I type in > "http://localhost:631" I got the message "server not found". > Suggestions... > _______________________________________________ Going from memory... Check to see if cupsd is running: #ps auxww| grep cupsd if something other than 'grep cupsd' is listed, I don't know why you can't access the site. If nothing comes back: Start the cupsd daemon: #/usr/local/etc/rc.d/cupsd.sh start (Might be a bit off, can't recall) You might need to modify /etc/rc.conf first: #echo "cupsd_enable="YES" >> /etc/rc.conf The above script to start cups should tell you want variable you need in rc.conf to get cupsd working. Hope this helps. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 03:34:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB5516A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:34:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7284B13C4D1 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:34:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 22:34:04 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id OAR02564; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:34:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2007 22:32:59 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18237.4010.415242.580366@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:34:02 -0500 To: luizbcampos@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: cups web browser access... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:34:19 -0000 luizbcampos@gmail.com writes: > I use FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 and I installed cups. When I type in > "http://localhost:631" I got the message "server not found". > Suggestions... Is cupsd running? Does it own port 631? Is port 631 blocked by a firewall? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 03:52:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4D716A421 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB0513C461 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:52:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAG3Gprx031501 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:16:51 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.249] (lodovico.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.249]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAG3Gods002163 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:16:51 -0800 Message-ID: <473D0BEA.6030905@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:18:02 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: luizbcampos@gmail.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.15.185625 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_300_399 0, WEIRD_PORT 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_419_INTRO 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cups web browser access... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:52:14 -0000 luizbcampos@gmail.com wrote: > Dear Sirs > > > I use FreeBSD-6.1-R amd64 and I installed cups. When I type in > "http://localhost:631" I got the message "server not found". > Suggestions... > What does "cat /etc/rc.conf | grep cupsd && ps ux | grep cupsd" output? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 03:55:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD72016A468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from typhoon.enabled.com (typhoon.enabled.com [216.218.220.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FDA13C467 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:55:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Received: from Macintosh-3.local (natint3.juniper.net [66.129.224.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by typhoon.enabled.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAG3slMS038784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:54:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin2@enabled.com) Message-ID: <473D147F.4030708@enabled.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:54:39 -0600 From: Noah User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: User Questions References: <473CDC50.2050706@enabled.com> <20071115204825.7D52.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <20071115204825.7D52.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: portmanager and apache2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:55:06 -0000 Hi there, I could not find anything in the portmanager.log how can I make sure it is ignored in the portmanager configuratino file to make sure it is not built at all? is there any other way to figure out what has a dependency to install it? Cheers, Noah Gerard wrote: > On November 15, 2007 at 06:54PM Noah wrote: > > >> access1# grep apache pm-020.conf >> IGNORE|www/apache13*| >> IGNORE|www/apache13| >> IGNORE|www/apache13-*| >> IGNORE|www/apache13*-*| >> IGNORE|www/apache-1.3*| >> IGNORE|www/apache20| >> IGNORE|www/apache20*| >> IGNORE|www/apache21| >> IGNORE|www/apache21*| >> access1# pkg_info | grep portmana >> portmanager-0.4.1_9 FreeBSD installed ports status and safe update utility >> access1# >> >> How can I figure out why it is getting built? > > Make sure you only have apache-2.2.x installed, check the portmanager.log > file and see if another program is trying to build apache as a dependency. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 03:57:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAFBD16A421 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF4B13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:57:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 16416 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 03:57:33 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2007 03:57:33 -0000 Message-ID: <473D14DC.4070104@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:56:12 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> <20071115221638.GC76155@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20071115221638.GC76155@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:57:52 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 03:34:26PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >> Chad Perrin wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:23:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >>>> This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a >>>> regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed to >>>> set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the >>>> decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a >>>> dependency. >>> Ugh. As far as I'm concerned, everything that pertains to system >>> configuration should always be human-readable and editable without >>> special tools. Trying to insulate things from human ability to directly >>> manipulate them tends to lead to rapidly increasing difficulty of >>> debugging configurations. >> I might have agreed with this, except, I have lived for a good while >> with the Gentoo "USE" lists, and I can tell you that having insufficent >> control over what goes ontp those lists causes havoc both with the users >> trying to select the proper wording of the lists, and the programmers >> trying to decide how to have a particular USE keyword represent a >> particular ports usage. You have to make certain that both users and >> programmers have a definite, firm meaning in mind when they use the >> keywords, because (in another's well chosen words) if you don't, USE >> lists are a PITA. It takes firmer control of meaning to make certain >> that the list doesn't devolve into that. >> >> This is actual experience talking, in this case. > > I don't see how that translates into "the user should not be allowed to > view what's going on behind the scenes in a text editor if (s)he wants > to." > I think you're becoming confused about who said what, because that particular line (the last paragraph above) isn't anything that I wrote. Tell you what, let's just let this branch of the argument die, until I raise it again after I have the software ready to look at, on the ports list. We should not be bothering the "-questions" llist with this. At that point, I will prepare, in advance, use cases, all the documentation, and the actual code, and everyone will get their chance to rant and rave, alrighty? You can stop me cold, if enough folks don't like the idea, that's how the development of FreeBSD goes, and I wouldn't change a thing with that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 04:07:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC1516A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from ozzie.tundraware.com (ozzie.tundraware.com [66.92.130.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4E813C45D for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:07:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (viper.tundraware.com [192.168.0.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by ozzie.tundraware.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAG47UcL010954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:07:31 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tundra@tundraware.com) Message-ID: <473D1784.1040901@tundraware.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:07:32 -0600 From: Tim Daneliuk Organization: TundraWare Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <473B6AF1.4010604@smo.de> <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-tundraware.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-tundraware.com-MailScanner-From: tundra@tundraware.com X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: tundra@tundraware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:07:44 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>> Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) takes ~2 >>> hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to do that). My >>> other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 hours to build kernel >>> and world (Celeron 500...). >>> >>> Just to supply some numbers that "go the other direction" :-) >> With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the foreground >> (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig (amd64) > > p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > real 63m8.635s > user 102m44.096s > sys 10m44.889s > [root@athena /usr/src]# > > heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 > > cheers, My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla SATA drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes wall time building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Daneliuk tundra@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 04:08:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0505E16A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:08:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA7E13C4BB for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:08:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 24316 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 04:08:50 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail3.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2007 04:08:50 -0000 Message-ID: <473D1780.104@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:07:28 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Horne References: <473B6AF1.4010604@smo.de> <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> In-Reply-To: <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:08:57 -0000 Jonathan Horne wrote: > On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>> Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) takes ~2 >>> hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to do that). My >>> other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 hours to build kernel >>> and world (Celeron 500...). >>> >>> Just to supply some numbers that "go the other direction" :-) >> With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the foreground >> (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig (amd64) > > p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: > > -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > real 63m8.635s > user 102m44.096s > sys 10m44.889s > [root@athena /usr/src]# I have a quad core machine, and I found that (after a bit of checking) that about 95% of my improvements could be cotten with a -j4 setting. It did keep on improving, but only very little, up to -j8. AT -j8 it was about 18 minutes. I do have more accurate numbers, if folks are curious. I did buildworlds, so no kernel built, and the environment was with all the files from a previous build in place. > heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 > > cheers, From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 04:10:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9C916A469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@vandaliamo.net) Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C029C13C467 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@vandaliamo.net) Received: (qmail 2298 invoked by uid 1006); 16 Nov 2007 03:43:26 -0000 Received: from jhall@vandaliamo.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:SA:0(-1.4/100.0):. Processed in 0.922401 secs); 16 Nov 2007 03:43:26 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.11) by -v with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 03:43:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 29247 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 03:43:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO admintool.trueband.net) (127.0.0.1) by -v with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 03:43:24 -0000 Received: from 12.170.206.13 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhall@vandaliamo.net) by admintool.trueband.net with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:43:24 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:43:24 -0000 (GMT) From: jhall@vandaliamo.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:10:16 -0000 Everyone, I'm sure this is easy, and I am making it harder than it is. I am being supplied a list of files, and need to create the files and directories to hold them, but I cannot figure out how to take the string apart. For example, I am given /usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh I need to create the /usr/local/scripts directory and then create firewall.sh. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 04:22:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D155E16A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9068213C43E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so4119607pyb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:22:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DAcMNMe7fTT2AIHthkAw3GL/KWmhTy3BKvDLRrUkhSQ=; b=kq7FDk4RE9+oVqwCIx2MwYTmqotua3DCjnFYtBjTK50pDgGu1dRIa3UDACnoI5r272dNIc6h9bWMLT+47XgsN+uIC731DcUqClsbVd56yP0ZsWgupgLWxKNvgDyl8Vfj7J/V2JwwcD0JoBQMwVGV8zIp73fpepExHeUIOM0XIQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rn4obWPxB+gk/kldMo4js8iOrV39KEh+FZad8MBHNAO+BxF5MUYZ2aqhaw4mcMp0ITNntJsVlZqDqnqiQ+QqWfzuSK7FlJ1GaWCPQ0Xh0tFrJVVemPDoXf4KNpJ6oNg0NV4YiKXLzLMNY2mim+hHmtt+1v+Hf5wEQJsopAOucxI= Received: by 10.65.95.12 with SMTP id x12mr3215708qbl.1195186964580; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:22:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q17sm1758360qbq.2007.11.15.20.22.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:22:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473D1B08.9000908@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:22:32 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tundra@tundraware.com References: <473B6AF1.4010604@smo.de> <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <473D1784.1040901@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <473D1784.1040901@tundraware.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:22:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla > SATA drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes > wall time > building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. Why on earth do -j 20? - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPRraJ9+1V27SttsRAgI0AKCaLW28j+XFMz2J7Ex/geAuqM+icwCfW891 awe9BXRh5x0QNW78qKHmGsA= =2kto -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 04:43:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F233116A468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C888413C44B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:43:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so571718rvb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=5gAZqUXVSXWYuYI5j3413ARNWCr20V8OAOGk0wWVcqQ=; b=F0Phz1ihopW8OKzCbYjABZudIEz1TullvzlQ3p2J3QuFHhAOpu61XCO+e05ZsHb44IKXRpRpeSHvwsBJ7fwVmxz1YZb55QHMwCNBwhLDGuK4SzXp8sFNS9xAI03nHPoRKxhqkThGN3L9tPIPfvBCzBhMm/koNlll1KVz/NhJyw8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=Ozs6mn0DAYC4qugggyyjuedNqAJZO9KGK2NKeHpOAIr96ZMC4qNaQsi5B9ZyqPcpxTKfzHET4EwG1oghBegkJCUuzqsR8RBi/NosqTs+pdqxS+b22A5Z+qPevHu3fDEjmPkq2RbP+zpOJiWHUTnCRu6IDo2y5kblVBhRlPEZmIA= Received: by 10.141.153.16 with SMTP id f16mr420086rvo.1195188217514; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.57.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c36sm4278978rvf.2007.11.15.20.43.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 99DAB143E7; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:13:31 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:13:31 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071116044331.GA21372@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 04:43:46 -0000 On 03:43:24 Nov 16, jhall@vandaliamo.net wrote: > Everyone, > > I'm sure this is easy, and I am making it harder than it is. > > I am being supplied a list of files, and need to create the files and > directories to hold them, but I cannot figure out how to take the string > apart. > > For example, I am given > > /usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh > > I need to create the /usr/local/scripts directory and then create > firewall.sh. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. There is always more than one way to skin a cat. :) Perhaps you will like mine. DIR=`dirname $path` FILE=`basename $path` /bin/mkdir -p $DIR cd touch $FILE You can put this in a loop with path as loop variable. Best of luck! regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 05:17:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF2616A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400F613C468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:17:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAG5HZ8T019564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:17:36 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.249] (lodovico.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.249]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAG5HZG4022303 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:17:35 -0800 Message-ID: <473D2837.6000301@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:47 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> <20071116044331.GA21372@saraswathy.susmita.org> In-Reply-To: <20071116044331.GA21372@saraswathy.susmita.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.15.205925 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:17:42 -0000 Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 03:43:24 Nov 16, jhall@vandaliamo.net wrote: > >> Everyone, >> >> I'm sure this is easy, and I am making it harder than it is. >> >> I am being supplied a list of files, and need to create the files and >> directories to hold them, but I cannot figure out how to take the string >> apart. >> >> For example, I am given >> >> /usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh >> >> I need to create the /usr/local/scripts directory and then create >> firewall.sh. >> >> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >> > > There is always more than one way to skin a cat. :) > > Perhaps you will like mine. > > DIR=`dirname $path` > FILE=`basename $path` > /bin/mkdir -p $DIR > cd > touch $FILE > > You can put this in a loop with path as loop variable. > > Best of luck! > > regards, > Girish A better way would be to quote the string variables, i.e.: DIR=`/usr/bin/dirname "$path"` FILE=`/usr/bin/basename "$path"` /bin/mkdir -p "$DIR" touch "$FILE" Otherwise dirname and basename will choke on non-escaped characters (i.e. spaces), mkdir/touch will make funky directories / files, respectively. Just watch out for '$' chars in $path... Welcome to the wonderful world of [in]secure shell scripting :). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 05:35:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5808C16A51C for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D3913C457 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAG5ZNfZ024630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:35:23 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.249] (lodovico.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.249]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAG5ZNJ6023297 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:35:23 -0800 Message-ID: <473D2C62.3040707@u.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:36:34 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tundra@tundraware.com References: <473B6AF1.4010604@smo.de> <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <473D1784.1040901@tundraware.com> In-Reply-To: <473D1784.1040901@tundraware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.15.211456 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:35:30 -0000 Tim Daneliuk wrote: > Jonathan Horne wrote: >> On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >>>> Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) takes ~2 >>>> hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to do that). My >>>> other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 hours to build kernel >>>> and world (Celeron 500...). >>>> >>>> Just to supply some numbers that "go the other direction" :-) >>> With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the foreground >>> (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig (amd64) >> >> p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> real 63m8.635s >> user 102m44.096s >> sys 10m44.889s >> [root@athena /usr/src]# >> >> heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 >> >> cheers, > > My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla > SATA drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes wall > time > building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. SMP kernels on STABLE (6.x) are going to perform worse than SMP kernels on CURRENT (7-RELENG / 8-CURRENT), depending on the scheduler used (4BSD vs ULE scheduler), as well as a variety of other factors. Remember... performance not only depends upon clock speed or the number of cores you have, but also what caching/prefetching scheme FreeBSD uses (not sure if it's fetches large amounts infrequently or small amounts frequently), how much memory is available to make and its spawned processes (gcc, awk, etc), as well as the number of processes active on the machine, and host usage (high disk usage, high memory usage, etc). After reading through the thread, I noticed that people are making comparing apples to oranges, as... 1. 6.x contains gcc 3.4.x whereas 7.x/8.x contains 4.2.1 2. The machines have a variety of different resources available. - RAM types and amounts. - Processor types (AMD processors typically have lower cache sizes than Intel processors). - Different disk types and speeds. - etc, etc. 3. Load amounts vary. If you would like to run realistic benchmarks and money isn't an issue, I suggest buying similar (if not same) hardware and experimenting with only one variable item (i.e. harddrive, processor, RAM, etc), or using one machine as a testbed, varying hardware components and software variables to yield repeatable results, instead of just saying, "Hey, my make buildworld is slow even though I have an uber off-the-market processor / setup -- what the heck man???", or another similar claim. My 2 cents.. -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 05:42:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DDA16A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105C513C43E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:42:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so4152326pyb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:42:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=azeB/tA7w/Ydu51Dq/LmMgVk8jXItbW+/FFnvqfF+Y4=; b=sCQhD5Ah7qTDZKAZrY8itQW1se72SNJnS32Gq1/X4MewBsEnSZjnn66TSj0DV368E/tm4AWfzKglkw+2XCtMcSACXkyhpB4kVPdFxHZyUzL2zeGqsrHFuTS+PKta+xPeWOPN5agrcMPeOnIHO8TwjDtiu6EB1JSiZjRbyEaiPug= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=L9rgNxPjz7IPlFrswB0Y/ZDVCvDdI8MxUUrnk7DDTFJUKydpqDRecDUXuZjMiABr459o0lquCd/SUhv0KpkUDBYQ4QvRg8uhaoe9wLd4TkacMl/tw7H8bG44JdpMv59D2c09gKQF6petPQ/dah9URzEllu6WFVz0+iroUT8XReE= Received: by 10.65.159.19 with SMTP id l19mr3247795qbo.1195191751498; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f15sm1842565qba.2007.11.15.21.42.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:42:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473D2DBD.2030100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:42:21 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Cooper References: <473B6AF1.4010604@smo.de> <473B6C63.9060407@gmail.com> <200711151935.10550.freebsd@dfwlp.com> <473D1784.1040901@tundraware.com> <473D2C62.3040707@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <473D2C62.3040707@u.washington.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tundra@tundraware.com, FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:42:44 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Garrett Cooper wrote: > Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> Jonathan Horne wrote: >>> On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman >>> wrote: >>>>> Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) >>>>> takes ~2 hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to >>>>> do that). My other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 >>>>> hours to build kernel and world (Celeron 500...). >>>>> >>>>> Just to supply some numbers that "go the other direction" >>>>> :-) >>>> With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the >>>> foreground (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig >>>> (amd64) >>> >>> p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> real 63m8.635s user 102m44.096s sys 10m44.889s >>> [root@athena /usr/src]# >>> >>> heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 >>> >>> cheers, >> >> My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla SATA >> drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes wall >> time building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. > > SMP kernels on STABLE (6.x) are going to perform worse than SMP > kernels on CURRENT (7-RELENG / 8-CURRENT), depending on the > scheduler used (4BSD vs ULE scheduler), as well as a variety of > other factors. > > Remember... performance not only depends upon clock speed or the > number of cores you have, but also what caching/prefetching scheme > FreeBSD uses (not sure if it's fetches large amounts infrequently > or small amounts frequently), how much memory is available to make > and its spawned processes (gcc, awk, etc), as well as the number of > processes active on the machine, and host usage (high disk usage, > high memory usage, etc). > > After reading through the thread, I noticed that people are making > comparing apples to oranges, as... Some people are taking this thread *WAY TOO SERIOUS* as far I can tell it is meant as a light hearted lets post funny numbers thread. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPS2RJ9+1V27SttsRAteLAKCPAcEL9UIyBonCU4/5ZYUzejUhsACeOqL6 YFh9oTl8TkOmbfJXLvbueyE= =hDCA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 05:47:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE7216A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C61E13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so971730waf for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:46:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=3bi4gJ7spKvBtMF4NVKA1LfGVCKq6v9TE94/Y+mTtKQ=; b=bBtzvwWfqK1HsidXpZO2QCIHwybp6jFSdxnjQO/6Bz9GGT6GBflJk4KJ+L+xDhomgvYpyi6huDcOuN2f93XwZAlwbfWT/MFqnQ4ZHMjo417KQiDRrkzAU25+/d9ULTQu1JyrCjR6wic/t/L5lVeVNOJr+PZvkECbnPGPwjLMYB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fatREu7NARopckayXMjzYt8mhh7AR5s7pP4smM5LM7WQfv0IbLwwTwOrzO2b4UTBlxd4X3QXUhbx3pLSDRZ4Wq9HXDyubNJDsdHPTVBJ8OkKkbigiDXbgkoCk823OvCahGSD07D+3p7qL8ssNMEdAdman6a9q1AJc59f/YJnn3A= Received: by 10.114.154.1 with SMTP id b1mr940912wae.1195190322937; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.14 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:18:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:18:42 -0500 From: alexus To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:47:05 -0000 Hello, I have two NICs on my box, one (primary) connected to switch and have private IP. that IP also have a static route on Cisco PIX for accessing this box from outside. the other interface has public IP that is connected to another switch, i configure both IPs through /etc/rc.conf, but I can not for some reason access my box through that public IP, no firewall rules would prevent me from doing so. here is my output for netstat -rn alexus# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 250 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2 lo0 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 192.168.1.1 00:0d:29:09:90:61 UHLW 2 2 fxp0 1171 192.168.1.250 00:16:cb:94:10:e9 UHLW 1 12 fxp0 1169 216.112.241.24/29 link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 Internet6: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ::1 ::1 UHL lo0 fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 U lo0 fe80::1%lo0 link#4 UHL lo0 ff01:4::/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 UC lo0 alexus# what am I missing? -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 05:58:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75E016A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harij2007@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D0413C45A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harij2007@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so974501waf for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:58:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=aO/UYC5hGim5QyEK9YL/4nz3PHBKU+KpNLLF5pSRJlM=; b=bbG03QvwYX/1F1pMdYY/yqMJrP3MQcE9DPgCsywXTVIlCh7ieICCedBzGN5tYF+uUrrQtOCmF5IJ3TX6ZABEsDZ1TKj3H4l1EgP87E1IAz55F/tN9oKSExcBv+ijs1MSE2vehLk4Wy9dq+4SERI6mrA5ZwHhp0w5zB+bi+v7boY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PAjbSZbXW9T5u1tj2N/dmOZ6+AqGY1fmcBX4buweCqtAFg3+hi8sUgNJTa9BeYWpEUG3QyZeiaNaI4Mz0oIgoM+/ELhm12Rg9UC4bqvXRAIUShQjo2QM20V8XjcPVTuWz5PpxU99gmi4MrpkbFEAepBPqz9BDJSFiEdo0mDFclA= Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr132323wae.1195191041013; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.184.13 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:30:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:00:40 +0530 From: "hari krishna" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: from harikrishna X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:58:45 -0000 list me few possible faq's for freebsd From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 06:26:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB68A16A469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevcormier@yahoo.com) Received: from n2.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com (n2.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.56.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8737713C468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:26:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevcormier@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n2.bullet.re4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 06:12:59 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.156] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 06:12:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp209.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 06:12:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 873851.8596.bm@omp209.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77359 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2007 06:12:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aQ1YgksZz8glLO0n260oCL5IhcVAdb2+Uv1I/4F9A8op/6W3xcYrklpoplt1lAJQ7wDP/1Pu7lLMBUsGgJUyKVU9AWhoYjOstZGAjRYPQlB12nnvEupawK24aH0LDgzUS1JsQrCRAfdK08VOB3D7ezSnBzfRst1/oyH9W9gUN3Q=; X-YMail-OSG: tQm2S_sVM1mJdrqUkbrbYJqe92Po_HEjfKFu6OTVNGBNLqmjh7X92aGZX_6d.lmmfHlg2e_O38TnJQPdLDdiEecYjuypCcPjRktk9JvrdB8JY.yps6ELag-- Received: from [24.69.77.165] by web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:12:59 PST Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:12:59 -0800 (PST) From: kev sadasda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <696643.68048.qm@web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:26:57 -0000 I am trying to install freebsd over ftp but it always says, cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org I told it to use dchp but it didnt do anything even though my router's dhcp server was on. it kept on saying dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval .. So I tried to fill in the infos but it always said cannot resolve.. as soon as I pressed ok. These are my infos. Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sasdasda-164680 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gv.shawcable.net Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gv.shawcable.net Description . . . . . . . . . . . : CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adap ter Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-80-AD-88-97-D8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.102 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:05:10 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:05:10 PM ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 06:34:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349F916A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A17413C459 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:34:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so592939rvb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:34:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=U5nk2DfdvR66yPKTePqZXEapkIWI3UXuP6pjJIWrX0c=; b=WCSS2/pWBGL5tCZo5NOFnD1XU1EYWjVfoaDTEWAsakFoquDXYd6H4X5453hHciXdEZrbAZ4wP5uxD3syCLMhMxUcROxsrOqItACp0R20ezONd6COBqqePxj7GKjV1ONGYp/2WJoXOoTwMI+vZ+q4K3LIUFaQjH3WUM9EOjwITro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=X/2QyfjKC5aGQ8tmokiBH0RCDTTC07p3luK64tQh5sccSXh4XCprUnlAsE8+u4Eg9eNEuFW6U9mqTM4yXqBlOa/wIsHNExTSz0a1T3raG/fqm6ih+JQej2SPVfXDQT5fc6mLu9ItCGAk2svEc5ONiJtHHo9S5ctD8nAQbV/xhcY= Received: by 10.141.115.6 with SMTP id s6mr455317rvm.1195194867711; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:34:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from saraswathy.susmita.org ( [59.92.57.146]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm4667080rvb.2007.11.15.22.34.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by saraswathy.susmita.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 96E19143E7; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:04:21 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:04:21 +0530 From: Girish Venkatachalam To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071116063421.GA4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> <20071116044331.GA21372@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473D2837.6000301@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473D2837.6000301@u.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:34:35 -0000 On 21:18:47 Nov 15, Garrett Cooper wrote: > A better way would be to quote the string variables, i.e.: > > DIR=`/usr/bin/dirname "$path"` > FILE=`/usr/bin/basename "$path"` > /bin/mkdir -p "$DIR" > touch "$FILE" > > Otherwise dirname and basename will choke on non-escaped characters > (i.e. spaces), mkdir/touch will make funky directories / files, > respectively. > > Just watch out for '$' chars in $path... > > Welcome to the wonderful world of [in]secure shell scripting :). > Thanks buddy. :) I missed out something obvious. Ever willing to learn. regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 06:38:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00DE16A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A891A13C468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:38:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so593988rvb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:38:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=rF9dbTlNEge3qEmPsjQi2Z/G8hEcj3Dl9T9GLToCQpo=; 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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:38:48 -0000 On 00:18:42 Nov 16, alexus wrote: > Hello, > > I have two NICs on my box, one (primary) connected to switch and have > private IP. that IP also have a static route on Cisco PIX for > accessing this box from outside. the other interface has public IP > that is connected to another switch, i configure both IPs through > /etc/rc.conf, but I can not for some reason access my box through that > public IP, no firewall rules would prevent me from doing so. here is > my output for netstat -rn > > alexus# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 250 fxp0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2 lo0 > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 > 192.168.1.1 00:0d:29:09:90:61 UHLW 2 2 fxp0 1171 > 192.168.1.250 00:16:cb:94:10:e9 UHLW 1 12 fxp0 1169 > 216.112.241.24/29 link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 Your default route is 192.168.1.1 and not 216.112.241.24 regards, Girish From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 06:49:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F396516A4D5 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB2C13C48E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:49:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAG6nSqJ021852; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:49:29 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:49:25 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711160049.26162.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: hari krishna Subject: Re: from harikrishna X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:49:45 -0000 On Thursday 15 November 2007 11:30:40 pm hari krishna wrote: > list me few possible faq's for freebsd I'm not sure if you're looking for new/potential user info about FreeBSD or for questions that may come up on how to solve common problems. Either way, the info you're want is probably linked on this page: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html David -- This message was proudly made on Earth. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 06:52:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D031416A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17D913C457 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAG6pxId013985 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:52:01 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:51:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <473D2C62.3040707@u.washington.edu> <473D2DBD.2030100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <473D2DBD.2030100@gmail.com> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711160052.00058.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:52:20 -0000 On Thursday 15 November 2007 11:42:21 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Garrett Cooper wrote: > > Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> Jonathan Horne wrote: > >>> On Wednesday 14 November 2007 03:45:07 pm Aryeh M. Friedman > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>>>> Impressive ;-) My main machine (with an Athlon XP @ 2GHz) > >>>>> takes ~2 hours to build kernel and world (I use a script to > >>>>> do that). My other box is running -CURRENT and takes ~11 > >>>>> hours to build kernel and world (Celeron 500...). > >>>>> > >>>>> Just to supply some numbers that "go the other direction" > >>>>> > >>>>> :-) > >>>> > >>>> With no -j and running gnome and doing other things in the > >>>> foreground (watching a avi) 1 hr 3 mins on a e6850 w/ 4 gig > >>>> (amd64) > >>> > >>> p4 540 3.2GHz, 1GB ram: > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>>>>> World build completed on Thu Nov 15 19:15:05 CST 2007 > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> real 63m8.635s user 102m44.096s sys 10m44.889s > >>> [root@athena /usr/src]# > >>> > >>> heh, i have appropriately renamed the thread. :) with -j 8 > >>> > >>> cheers, > >> > >> My Pentium-D 3G DualCore w/2G memory and a pretty vanilla SATA > >> drive does buildworld and 3 different kernels in 68 minutes wall > >> time building 6.3-PRE (aka -STABLE) using -j20. > > > > SMP kernels on STABLE (6.x) are going to perform worse than SMP > > kernels on CURRENT (7-RELENG / 8-CURRENT), depending on the > > scheduler used (4BSD vs ULE scheduler), as well as a variety of > > other factors. > > > > Remember... performance not only depends upon clock speed or the > > number of cores you have, but also what caching/prefetching scheme > > FreeBSD uses (not sure if it's fetches large amounts infrequently > > or small amounts frequently), how much memory is available to make > > and its spawned processes (gcc, awk, etc), as well as the number of > > processes active on the machine, and host usage (high disk usage, > > high memory usage, etc). > > > > After reading through the thread, I noticed that people are making > > comparing apples to oranges, as... > > Some people are taking this thread *WAY TOO SERIOUS* as far I can tell > it is meant as a light hearted lets post funny numbers thread. And here I was thinking it was a 'my machine can beat up your machine' thread. ;) David -- Controlling you through microchips since 1999. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 06:57:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7C116A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:57:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23AF613C4C5 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 18243 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 00:57:26 -0600 Received: from 124-170-94-7.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO localhost) (124.170.94.7) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 00:57:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:57:19 +1100 From: Norberto Meijome To: Erik Cederstrand Message-ID: <20071116175719.67457ce4@meijome.net> In-Reply-To: <473B3C56.5020103@cederstrand.dk> References: <3eca10930711140740gb8c2b88v6a13795c41e3eafb@mail.gmail.com> <473B3C56.5020103@cederstrand.dk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Matt Fioravante , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails and multicore boxes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:57:34 -0000 On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:20:06 +0100 Erik Cederstrand wrote: > You'll have to answer that yourself. How valuable is your data? What are > you trying to protect? If you're worrying about getting cracked and used > as a spam bot, jails are no more secure than a non-jail system. Maybe some qualification is needed here. If your mail jail gets broken into, then it will still be used as a spambot. But your host (the machine in which your jails run in) wouldn't have been compromised, necessarily, by the fact that the jail got compromised. Having root on a jail (if that's what we are talking about by 'compromised' ) shouldn't affect your host machine. Unless there is some other vulnerability that can be used, of course. B _________________________ {Beto|Norberto|Numard} Meijome "The more I see the less I know for sure." John Lennon I speak for myself, not my employer. Contents may be hot. Slippery when wet. Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been Warned. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 07:27:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779C416A46C for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from florenzi@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35AC513C478 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from florenzi@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so4198246pyb for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+jSPw5i68I1fR6Ao3ctboXcBShA66//571Dnn6nvb5k=; b=F5LV4PzTd0GpJJlKVrm6M3jP/NMdEuC4bkcjQyyNjSU/FmAZRArhyuUAtgot5xSLLDHn44AWuXxWjNFrDeAyvM2jhDO+bpR3rfaJ7O/LkJVCU9VAYaB1rAEUagmBX5ZYsRcR+/s3mXEVbd8PMYXSe6tdH1UXC7KHnSzZW5Pxibo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=O3CJQV6E7v3IdX6+8R2sh5zPb+YJrfxHeW4SoUfzfxbZftpMhCJNkJ+JVWbidHbUJhEgn10eeLbQXZjbnSeiP5zO7aFaA9zF1BbahhAYx720B8gGQllRpjkatJNvnpKaHVnHOB0SkXHsD6KsSwKJYR0GqYKrUyGA0l+GmllAhbg= Received: by 10.65.234.2 with SMTP id l2mr3544574qbr.1195198035045; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.91.18 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:27:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3a386af20711152327h7bb6dac9p656f949bf0709527@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:27:15 +0000 From: "Federico Lorenzi" To: "Norberto Meijome" In-Reply-To: <20071116175719.67457ce4@meijome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <3eca10930711140740gb8c2b88v6a13795c41e3eafb@mail.gmail.com> <473B3C56.5020103@cederstrand.dk> <20071116175719.67457ce4@meijome.net> Cc: Matt Fioravante , Erik Cederstrand , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jails and multicore boxes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:27:16 -0000 On Nov 16, 2007 6:57 AM, Norberto Meijome wrote: > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:20:06 +0100 > Erik Cederstrand wrote: > > > You'll have to answer that yourself. How valuable is your data? What are > > you trying to protect? If you're worrying about getting cracked and used > > as a spam bot, jails are no more secure than a non-jail system. > > Maybe some qualification is needed here. > > If your mail jail gets broken into, then it will still be used as a spambot. > > But your host (the machine in which your jails run in) wouldn't have been compromised, necessarily, by the fact that the jail got compromised. Having root on a jail > (if that's what we are talking about by 'compromised' ) shouldn't affect your host machine. Unless there is some other vulnerability that can be used, of course. Thats true indeed, however many people are saying that jails do not necessarily, make an environment more secure. I'm not really knowledable in that area, but they do add another layer to the proverbial onion. I use jails, but more for convenience then security, if i get a new (home) server box, I can just move some jails across with a simple tar and then scp, and have them work pretty much instantly. Cheers Federico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 08:04:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046FE16A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:04:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D3813C458 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:04:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 8567A142200; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:04:29 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2951423C2; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:04:25 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:06:18 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071115200215.GF43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> <473CABC3.6090604@daleco.biz> <20071115203912.GJ43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071115203912.GJ43532@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711161006.18848.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Christopher Cowart Subject: Re: Kernel pty limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:04:38 -0000 On Thursday 15 November 2007 22:39:12 Christopher Cowart wrote: > I suppose that counts as Good News. Does this mean the change will be > part of the increasingly anticipated 7.0 release? It seems that the change is already merged to RELENG_7 and RELENG_6. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 09:16:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D3C16A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A336613C4C5 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Nov 2007 08:50:12 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (EHLO Rena.FStaals.net) [62.59.173.176] by mail.gmx.net (mp040) with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 09:50:12 +0100 X-Authenticated: #25365336 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18ENBgBc48E6DnjCqRNHITh5mGRR27OVS0DTDdHpo 6WeHRaguLnEMRV Message-ID: <473D598C.3030907@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:49:16 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Weird musicpd + tracks problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:16:59 -0000 For about a week nog my computer is running Tracks ( http://www.rousette.org.uk/projects/ ); a GTD web-application using ruby on rails. To play my music I am running musicpd. The weird thing is that reloading my tracks page also orders musicpd to play a new song half of the times. I don't have a clue what is causing this but it is getting more anoying every minute. Does anyone have an idea what could cause this behaviour, or knows what I could do to track down what is causing it ? Some system information: output from my mpd log when setting log_level to verbose: ( As shown there are no incoming connections from a client ) Nov 15 19:59 : playlist: play 108:"nfs_pro_speed_ost/part1/Year Long Disaster Leda Atomica.mp3" Nov 15 19:59 : copyMpdTagToOB: !acceptMetadata || !tag Nov 15 19:59 : copyMpdTagToOB: !acceptMetadata || !tag Nov 15 19:59 : oss device "/dev/dsp" will be playing 16 bit 2 channel audio at 44100 Hz Nov 15 19:59 : playlist: queue song 109:"nfs_pro_speed_ost/part1/Yelle A Cause Des Garcons (Riot In Belgium Remix).mp3" frank@FStaals$ uname -rs FreeBSD 6.2-PRERELEASE frank@FStaals$ pkg_info -Ex musicpd musicpd-0.13.0_1 frank@FStaals$ pkg_info -Ex apache apache-2.2.6_2 frank@FStaals$ pkg_info -Ex ruby eruby-1.0.5 mod_ruby-1.2.6 ruby-1.8.6.111,1 ruby18-aspectr-0.3.5 ruby18-bdb-0.6.2 ruby18-dbd_mysql-0.1.1 ruby18-dbi-0.1.1 ruby18-gems-0.9.4 ruby18-mysql-2.7.3 rubygem-actionmailer-1.3.3 rubygem-actionpack-1.13.3 rubygem-actionwebservice-1.2.3 rubygem-activerecord-1.15.3 rubygem-activesupport-1.4.2 rubygem-rails-1.2.3 rubygem-rake-0.7.3 frank@FStaals$ pkg_info -Ex mysql mrtg-mysql-load-1.02_2 mysql-client-5.0.45_1 mysql-server-5.0.45_1 php5-mysql-5.2.4_1 ruby18-dbd_mysql-0.1.1 ruby18-mysql-2.7.3 running Tracks 1.043 ( manual install ) Thanks in advance, -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 10:44:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869BC16A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoschi@etain.frida.mouhaha.de) Received: from etain.frida.mouhaha.de (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4021813C478 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoschi@etain.frida.mouhaha.de) Received: from localhost (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) by etain.frida.mouhaha.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8934B9EFB; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:44:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mouhaha.de Received: from etain.frida.mouhaha.de ([85.236.48.54]) by localhost (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LtwGmVvBPWyK; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:44:01 +0100 (CET) Received: by etain.frida.mouhaha.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E0D3E4B983D; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:44:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:44:00 +0100 From: Oliver Peter To: James Message-ID: <20071116104400.GG16621@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> References: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5G50dybFf3pRZKd7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:44:06 -0000 --5G50dybFf3pRZKd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:45:28PM -0700, James wrote: > Hi folks, >=20 > first, I know the subject line is a goldmine for jokes, but I couldn't > think of a better way to phrase it. >=20 > Ever since I moved to FreeBSD 7.0, the evolution mail client has become > ridiculously slow for me. It takes two or three minutes to start up, > right clicking on a folder takes several minutes to display a context > menu etc >=20 > My install process was as follows: >=20 > 1. backup my home directory from a FreeBSD 6.2 install > 2. Format the hard drive > 3. Install 7.0 beta 1.5 > 4. csup sources and install beta 2.0 > 5. pkg_add xorg, gnome etc -- evolution was slow as a dog from this > 6. portsnap fetch extract > 7. follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating gnome >=20 > I tried cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution && make deinstall && make > reinstall, to see if something had simply gone wrong during the build, > but nothing changed. >=20 > Any ideas? An random idea: What scheduler are you using in your kernel configuration? Do you already use SCHED_ULE ? --=20 Oliver PETER, eMail: hoschi@mouhaha.de, ICQ# 113969174 "Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave." --5G50dybFf3pRZKd7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkc9dHAACgkQ6LH/IUVtaI89gQCfcRRaPgY5v3AKs/Q8nXumX/7+ QoEAn0zNHOz+s/EqYHLSYtLKjgZpVHCl =18cZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5G50dybFf3pRZKd7-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 10:47:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B613D16A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoschi@etain.frida.mouhaha.de) Received: from etain.frida.mouhaha.de (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E81513C478 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:47:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoschi@etain.frida.mouhaha.de) Received: from localhost (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) by etain.frida.mouhaha.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CAE4B9B3E; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:47:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mouhaha.de Received: from etain.frida.mouhaha.de ([85.236.48.54]) by localhost (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vU2x3VCDh1ov; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:47:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by etain.frida.mouhaha.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69CB44B983D; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:47:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:47:41 +0100 From: Oliver Peter To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20071116104741.GH16621@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> References: <20071115094044.7xivxgyhc80gc4cs@webmail.dfwlp.org> <20071115171414.V59698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4SRTEifjNkXp0Rce" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071115171414.V59698@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Jonathan Horne , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a curious jails question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:47:59 -0000 --4SRTEifjNkXp0Rce Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 05:15:01PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> ive been building jails for a while, and have always used the canonical= =20 >> method as listed out in the handbook. today, i tried something new. i= =20 >> have read that instead of doing: >>=20 >> make world ... >> make distribution ... >>=20 >> that you can instead: >>=20 >> make installworld ... >> make distribution ... >=20 > i know even better - make one jail and copy in to another. >=20 > first - get base distribution (possibly more) and unpack it. >=20 > even better - make common /usr and use mount_nullfs on each jail Or even better: Let ezjail (sysutils/ezjail) handle this job. --=20 Oliver PETER, eMail: hoschi@mouhaha.de, ICQ# 113969174 "Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave." --4SRTEifjNkXp0Rce Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkc9dU0ACgkQ6LH/IUVtaI/IogCdHI5q/Eh27KP6ZOox5lMZ9qf/ eUgAn0lvmHzYiVIDjSo2pgJ6PZmItrJI =Fn9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4SRTEifjNkXp0Rce-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 11:02:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E55D16A468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C0B13C46B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c24so205803ana for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.248.9 with SMTP id v9mr2486765anh.1195210931133; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:02:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b37sm3754731ana.2007.11.16.03.02.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:02:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:02:14 -0500 To: User Questions Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <473D147F.4030708@enabled.com> References: <20071115204825.7D52.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> <473D147F.4030708@enabled.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0IyMg7+5fri vGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQwfFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFUOI1t k89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDYIpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFHoo+5Sd lf/tWp6DJObHzDff7Mrhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kILrLv5ikK1 5DyF3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sCri6PHpq9dR QsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2gnBkgWnQ/hWIPQ2m6ilKKz TJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVrGIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhLkBUsZyQXDxxIWG H0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1Bd77AqTqzlX6MlVv4 2gecAUFc9NfhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLAEugLVywa9PyzUATjut hxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltVsoBKXh+ATB9KqEodufgO UDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENXyOfpFXvQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGm m142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffRwC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071116060122.ACA6.GERARD-SEIBERT@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.42 [en] From: Gerard Subject: Re: portmanager and apache2.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: User Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:02:20 -0000 > On November 15, 2007 at 10:54PM Noah wrote: > > Gerard wrote: > >> On November 15, 2007 at 06:54PM Noah wrote: > > > >> access1# grep apache pm-020.conf > >> IGNORE|www/apache13*| > >> IGNORE|www/apache13| > >> IGNORE|www/apache13-*| > >> IGNORE|www/apache13*-*| > >> IGNORE|www/apache-1.3*| > >> IGNORE|www/apache20| > >> IGNORE|www/apache20*| > >> IGNORE|www/apache21| > >> IGNORE|www/apache21*| > >> access1# pkg_info | grep portmana > >> portmanager-0.4.1_9 FreeBSD installed ports status and safe update utility > >> access1# > >> > >> How can I figure out why it is getting built? > > > > Make sure you only have apache-2.2.x installed, check the portmanager.log > > file and see if another program is trying to build apache as a dependency. > I could not find anything in the portmanager.log > > how can I make sure it is ignored in the portmanager configuratino file > to make sure it is not built at all? > > is there any other way to figure out what has a dependency to install it? Please don't top post. If you don't know what that means, Google for it. Now, could you please post the portmanager log. You need only post the sections that directly relate to Apache. -- Gerard This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, please delete it immediately. Obviously, I am the idiot who sent it to you by mistake. Furthermore, there is no way I can force you to delete it. Worse, by the time you have reached this disclaimer you have all ready read the document. Telling you to forget it would seem absurd. In any event, I have no legal right to force you to take any action upon this email anyway. This entire disclaimer is just a waste of everyone's time and bandwidth. Therefore, let us just forget the whole thing and enjoy a cold been instead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 11:08:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750E516A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:08:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p0036343@brookes.ac.uk) Received: from brookes.ac.uk (csmail1.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.1.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1852A13C46A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p0036343@brookes.ac.uk) Received: from [161.73.146.9] (izb6d318.brookes.ac.uk [161.73.146.9]) by brookes.ac.uk (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAGB8Wpq009976 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:08:32 GMT Message-ID: <473D7995.8010503@brookes.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:05:57 +0000 From: Stephen Allen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Oxford Brookes University MailScanner X-MailScanner: Clean X-MailScanner-From: p0036343@brookes.ac.uk X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Problems mounting a DOMAIN share, rather than a COMPUTER share X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:08:39 -0000 FreeBSD 6.2 + Samba 3.0.26a Can Samba mount a DFS share, using \\DOMAIN\dfs, rather than \\COMPUTER\dfs? The following command successfully lists all the shares on a domain controller, the same as \\DOMAIN does on Windows. One of the shares returned is "dfs" which is the root of my dfs tree: smbclient -U administrator -L domain.example.com | grep Disk So, I tried to mount "dfs" using the various commands below (errors are in ""), none of which work. Is this impossible, or am I missing something? Kind regards, Steve -- mount_smbfs -I domaincontroller.example.com //administrator@example.com/dfs /mnt "server name 'example.com' too long" mount_smbfs -I domaincontroller.example.com //administrator@domain/dfs /mnt "mount_smbfs: unable to open connection: syserr = Connection reset by peer" mount //administrator@domain/dfs /mnt "mount: //administrator@domain/dfs: No such file or directory" mount_smbfs //administrator@domain/dfs /mnt "mount_smbfs: can't get server address: syserr = Operation timed out" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 12:13:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5297A16A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from viefep31-int.chello.at (viefep31-int.chello.at [62.179.121.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C47513C4BE for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from [192.168.2.175] (really [80.99.169.3]) by viefep31-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.02 201-2186-121-104-20070414) with ESMTP id <20071116121247.HGGQ16570.viefep31-int.chello.at@[192.168.2.175]>; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:12:47 +0100 Message-ID: <473D8940.3030501@shopzeus.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:12:48 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Cran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:30 -0000 Bruce Cran írta: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Laszlo wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many >>> memory can it use for caching file data from disk? >>> >>> It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the >>> cache >> it already does > > It may seem strange since it's generally accepted that you can never > have enough disk cache, but FreeBSD apparently doesn't actually use > all the free memory for caching. By default it uses up to 256MB for > buffering/caching and there's no way it can use all available memory > on i386 in machines with more than 1GB installed since the > buffer/cache is allocated from KVM and the default maximum is 1GB. > You can increase the amount of memory used, but it might not help - > there's a thread on performance@ from 2004 which describes how it all > works; see > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-performance/2004-April/000785.html > > The information there is quite old now though so I don't know if > things are done differently in 6.x. OK, and how about amd64 arch? The reason I ask this is that we have a big postresql database (over 3GB) and PostgreSQL rely on the OS for caching files in memory. This database is mostly read-only, so it would be nice to use all free memory for caching. Especially that this machine is the database server, it does nothing else. Now, it is an i386 but we are about to migrate to AMD X2, then we can put in 8GB of memory. But only if the OS can use if for caching. Otherwise it would be useless. Thank you for the link. That thread is quite old - things might have changed. Thanks, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 13:14:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF9A16A505 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.bluestop.org) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9B8413C442 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.bluestop.org) Received: by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5FC8F30114; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:14:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:14:31 +0000 From: bruce@cran.org.uk To: Laszlo Nagy Message-ID: <20071116131430.GA27885@muon.bluestop.org> References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> <473D8940.3030501@shopzeus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473D8940.3030501@shopzeus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:14:34 -0000 On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 01:12:48PM +0100, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > Bruce Cran ?rta: > >Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> Laszlo wrote: > >>>Hi All, > >>> > >>>Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many > >>>memory can it use for caching file data from disk? > >>> > >>>It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the > >>>cache > >>it already does > > > >It may seem strange since it's generally accepted that you can never > >have enough disk cache, but FreeBSD apparently doesn't actually use > >all the free memory for caching. By default it uses up to 256MB for > >buffering/caching and there's no way it can use all available memory > >on i386 in machines with more than 1GB installed since the > >buffer/cache is allocated from KVM and the default maximum is 1GB. > >You can increase the amount of memory used, but it might not help - > >there's a thread on performance@ from 2004 which describes how it all > >works; see > >http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-performance/2004-April/000785.html > > > >The information there is quite old now though so I don't know if > >things are done differently in 6.x. > OK, and how about amd64 arch? The reason I ask this is that we have a > big postresql database (over 3GB) and PostgreSQL rely on the OS for > caching files in memory. This database is mostly read-only, so it would > be nice to use all free memory for caching. Especially that this machine > is the database server, it does nothing else. Now, it is an i386 but we > are about to migrate to AMD X2, then we can put in 8GB of memory. But > only if the OS can use if for caching. Otherwise it would be useless. > > Thank you for the link. That thread is quite old - things might have > changed. > > Thanks, > > Laszlo > I'm just going by what I've read on current@ but it seems things are still the same, both on i386 and amd64. I don't know if it's happened yet, but I think there was a plan to dramatically increase the kernel address space for 7.0 on amd64, mainly triggered I think by ZFS which likes to allocate loads of kernel memory. See http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-September/077250.html for a more recent discussion. -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 13:34:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5BA16A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:34:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F05C13C47E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:34:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAGDXkhm023700 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:34:07 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAGDXem9002392; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAGDXeQt002391; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:33:39 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: jhall@vandaliamo.net Message-ID: <20071116133339.GA2312@kobe.laptop> References: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.996, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:34:35 -0000 On 2007-11-16 03:43, jhall@vandaliamo.net wrote: > Everyone, > > I'm sure this is easy, and I am making it harder than it is. > > I am being supplied a list of files, and need to create the files and > directories to hold them, but I cannot figure out how to take the string > apart. > > For example, I am given > > /usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh > > I need to create the /usr/local/scripts directory and then create > firewall.sh. See the `dirname' and `basename' commands: $ dirname "/usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh" /usr/local/scripts $ $ basename "/usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh" firewall.sh $ Be careful about properly quoting the filenames though (note how the first invocation of `dirname' fails below, and try to understand why it fails): $ testname='foo bar baz' $ dirname $testname usage: dirname string $ dirname "${testname}" . $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 13:42:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5326416A468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDAB13C45A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1It1ST-0005Un-Mh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:42:09 -0800 Message-ID: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 05:42:09 -0800 (PST) From: cuongvt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cuongvt@fpt.vn Subject: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:42:15 -0000 After got below news from OSnews.com yesterday (I was late), I inserted RELENG_7 to my /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile as below: *default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org *default base=/var/db *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all Then I exec: cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.jp.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile Then I -j10 buildworld, build kernel, install kernel, then as single mode I installworld. After that, when I uname -a, it output is: FreeBSD hanhnhu.local 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri Nov 16 19:48:47 ICT 2007 Where I was wrong? Tnx in advanced. ================================ "The 7.0-BETA2 builds have completed and are on many of the FreeBSD mirror sites. If you want to update an existing machine using cvsup use RELENG_7 as the branch tag. Instructions on using FreeBSD Update to perform a binary upgrade from FreeBSD 6.x to 7.0-BETA2 will be provided via the freebsd-stable list when available." -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/I-went-to-8.0-current-accidently-%3A%28-tf4821358.html#a13793437 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 13:43:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FC516A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E463613C478 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:43:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1It1To-0002sR-Qm for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:43:32 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:43:32 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:43:32 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:47:03 +0100 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> Sender: news Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:43:52 -0000 Bruce Cran wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Laszlo wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many >>> memory can it use for caching file data from disk? >>> >>> It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the >>> cache >> it already does > > It may seem strange since it's generally accepted that you can never > have enough disk cache, but FreeBSD apparently doesn't actually use all > the free memory for caching. By default it uses up to 256MB for This is wrong. See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/vm-fileio.html """FreeBSD reserves a limited amount of KVM to hold mappings from struct bufs, but it should be made clear that this KVM is used solely to hold mappings and does not limit the ability to cache data. """ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 13:45:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40E416A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: from smtp1.tls.net (smtp1.tls.net [65.196.224.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A07E13C465 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:45:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave.list@pixelhammer.com) Received: (qmail 99502 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 13:56:19 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.2.3 ppid: 99484, pid: 99497, t: 0.8507s scanners: attach: 1.2.3 clamav: 0.91.1/m:44/d:4808 spam: 3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on smtp1.tls.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=20.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,TVD_RCVD_IP autolearn=disabled version=3.2.1 Received: from 64-184-9-196.bb.hrtc.net (HELO ?192.168.0.109?) (ldg@tls.net@64.184.9.196) by auth-smtp1.tls.net with ESMTPA; 16 Nov 2007 13:56:18 -0000 Message-ID: <473D9EDD.9030207@pixelhammer.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:45:01 -0500 From: DAve User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> In-Reply-To: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:45:43 -0000 jhall@vandaliamo.net wrote: > Everyone, > > I'm sure this is easy, and I am making it harder than it is. > > I am being supplied a list of files, and need to create the files and > directories to hold them, but I cannot figure out how to take the string > apart. > > For example, I am given > > /usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh > > I need to create the /usr/local/scripts directory and then create > firewall.sh. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bash+scripting+tutorial Can't recommend it enough, the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. A very handy bookmark to keep around. DAve -- I've been asking Google for a Veteran's Day logo since 2000, maybe 1999. I was told they finally did a Veteran's Day logo, but none of the links I was given return anything but a normal Google logo. Sad, very sad. Maybe the Chinese Government didn't like it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 13:54:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6390316A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A05A13C46A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 81067 invoked by uid 1002); 16 Nov 2007 13:54:21 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.512264 secs); 16 Nov 2007 13:54:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 13:54:14 -0000 Message-ID: <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:54:17 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> In-Reply-To: <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:54:33 -0000 Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 00:18:42 Nov 16, alexus wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have two NICs on my box, one (primary) connected to switch and have >> private IP. that IP also have a static route on Cisco PIX for >> accessing this box from outside. the other interface has public IP >> that is connected to another switch, i configure both IPs through >> /etc/rc.conf, but I can not for some reason access my box through that >> public IP, no firewall rules would prevent me from doing so. here is >> my output for netstat -rn >> -- snip > Your default route is 192.168.1.1 and not 216.112.241.24 Yes, but if he changes that, then he won't be able to access the box via the PIX (private) connection. I will make these assumptions, then elaborate: The box in question is at your office. You are at home trying to access it. The connection works by connecting to the public IP of the PIX (that gets port-forwarded back), but does not work when accessing the direct Internet facing port. I'm willing to bet that if you run a tcpdump on your machine at home you are attempting the connection to the 216.112.241.x IP, you will actually find that the machine is getting back to you just fine. However, many OS's will drop a 'spoofed' packet. Essentially what is likely happening is this: - you send from home a packet to 216.112.241.x. - the office router/box accepts it - the office router looks up in it's routing table a path back to your home IP - it has no particular route, so it sends it out the default gateway (192.168.1.1) - your pc at home notices that the packet was sent to a destination IP, but it came back from a different one (the outside IP of the PIX) - the packet is dropped as the source address is spoofed There are a couple ways to fix this. The first and easiest is if you are only trying to connect to this box's public IP from one location, add a static route on the office box to that network that routes to it's public upstream The other way is to utilize policy-based routing. IPFW can do this, and (from what I understand) so can PF. (In Cisco-land, you would use a route-map). Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 14:50:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99C216A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QJ=ce8c981a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBE213C43E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QJ=ce8c981a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6D9164698 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B21D04FF for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:22:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:22:49 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071116142249.1a242eed@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <473D075B.1060900@chuckr.org> References: <2852884D-270A-4879-B960-C10A602E080E@ashleymoran.me.uk> <47387891.2060007@unsane.co.uk> <47387BCA.6080604@foster.cc> <20071112183502.438b44b8@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738A71A.6060100@chuckr.org> <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738CB99.5000807@web.de> <20071112235921.11ae8c0a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FFC7.7000309@chuckr.org> <47394287.6050303@gmx.de> <473CA416.2040300@chuckr.org> <20071115205131.6f31ba66@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473CB387.2090100@chuckr.org> <20071115214316.656e279c@gumby.homeunix.com.> <473D075B.1060900@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:50:24 -0000 On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:58:35 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: ed to take exception to that. My claim (and I have the messages > in which I made it) is that the setting of options needed these > changes: > > (1) To move the time that they need to be set, from ports compile > time to system install time, and > > ... > I think (I may be wrong, correct me if I am) that you were taking > exception, above, to my first point, right? You may correct me on > that, but on whether or not it will actually succeed in this is what > all this discussion is about. I did not bring this up without > bringing the idea past local friends, and defending it there, so I > think I can do that. Do i need to requote all of my arguments about > that here Of course I've read them. They are about dependencies, but port options are also about the internals of ports. Even if all dependency management were take out of port options, it wouldn't have a significant impact on the number of ports that use port options. > ... they will 100% move the work from > ports build-time to system install-time. This is pretty simple to > prove, so I can't follow your assertion, If it is pretty simple to prove, you wont mind telling me how your system could determine at system install time, whether I will want squid built with AUFS support - even if I don't know much about squid it the time. It's a simple question. 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Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David J Brooks References: <473D2C62.3040707@u.washington.edu> <473D2DBD.2030100@gmail.com> <200711160052.00058.freysman@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200711160052.00058.freysman@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:10:27 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > And here I was thinking it was a 'my machine can beat up your > machine' thread. ;) > The orginial thread perhaps this one is along the lines of I did everything I could to slow buildworld down and this is how I did it. Speaking of that the worst I have seen was my current machine under 6.2-RELEASE, didn't time buildworld but installworld was 4 hours. - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPbLHJ9+1V27SttsRAuMvAJ0TaFDUCLKzzBupl55q89BjGKQiYgCZAVgs NSaR4zK4Jt+n4DMYyXbpC54= =vXEt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 15:17:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48F616A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-99.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-99.bluehost.com [74.220.208.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A664913C442 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 30385 invoked by uid 0); 16 Nov 2007 15:17:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:17:01 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1It2wH-00016N-5y for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:17:01 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAGFHZ0s080785 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:17:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAGFHZiK080784 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:17:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:17:34 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071116151734.GB80515@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> <20071115221638.GC76155@demeter.hydra> <473D14DC.4070104@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473D14DC.4070104@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:17:02 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:56:12PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > Chad Perrin wrote: > >On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 03:34:26PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > >>Chad Perrin wrote: > >>>On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:23:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > >>>>This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a > >>>>regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed > >>>>to set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the > >>>>decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a > >>>>dependency. > >>>Ugh. As far as I'm concerned, everything that pertains to system > >>>configuration should always be human-readable and editable without > >>>special tools. Trying to insulate things from human ability to directly > >>>manipulate them tends to lead to rapidly increasing difficulty of > >>>debugging configurations. > >>I might have agreed with this, except, I have lived for a good while > >>with the Gentoo "USE" lists, and I can tell you that having insufficent > >>control over what goes ontp those lists causes havoc both with the users > >>trying to select the proper wording of the lists, and the programmers > >>trying to decide how to have a particular USE keyword represent a > >>particular ports usage. You have to make certain that both users and > >>programmers have a definite, firm meaning in mind when they use the > >>keywords, because (in another's well chosen words) if you don't, USE > >>lists are a PITA. It takes firmer control of meaning to make certain > >>that the list doesn't devolve into that. > >> > >>This is actual experience talking, in this case. > > > >I don't see how that translates into "the user should not be allowed to > >view what's going on behind the scenes in a text editor if (s)he wants > >to." > > > > I think you're becoming confused about who said what, because that > particular line (the last paragraph above) isn't anything that I wrote. Quote: This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a regular editor can manipulate it That's the point I'm addressing. No more, and no less. The response I received to addressing that did not seem to provide much support for that quoted statement, so I let you know that I don't see how that translates to "the user should not . . ." et cetera. > > At that point, I will prepare, in advance, use cases, all the > documentation, and the actual code, and everyone will get their chance > to rant and rave, alrighty? You can stop me cold, if enough folks don't > like the idea, that's how the development of FreeBSD goes, and I > wouldn't change a thing with that. I'd rather that you produce software I want than software I don't, though. That's why I tend to feel that it's better to sort out what is and isn't wanted, why it is and isn't wanted, and both whether and how that applies to what you propose to produce, before it's produced. Obviously, I'm not saying that what I personally want should be the driving force behind FreeBSD, but from where I'm sitting that's the important part. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 15:55:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C070516A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@vandaliamo.net) Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4938913C4E5 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhall@vandaliamo.net) Received: (qmail 19577 invoked by uid 1006); 16 Nov 2007 15:54:48 -0000 Received: from jhall@vandaliamo.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:SA:0(-1.4/100.0):. Processed in 1.587145 secs); 16 Nov 2007 15:54:48 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.4 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.22) by -v with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:54:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 9366 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 15:54:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO admintool.trueband.net) (127.0.0.1) by -v with SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 15:54:46 -0000 Received: from 65.117.48.155 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jhall@vandaliamo.net) by admintool.trueband.net with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:54:46 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <49329.65.117.48.155.1195228486.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> In-Reply-To: <20071116133339.GA2312@kobe.laptop> References: <52275.12.170.206.13.1195184604.squirrel@admintool.trueband.net> <20071116133339.GA2312@kobe.laptop> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:54:46 -0000 (GMT) From: jhall@vandaliamo.net To: "Giorgos Keramidas" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: jhall@vandaliamo.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash and strings X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:55:10 -0000 > > See the `dirname' and `basename' commands: > > $ dirname "/usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh" > /usr/local/scripts > $ > > $ basename "/usr/local/scripts/firewall.sh" > firewall.sh > $ > > Be careful about properly quoting the filenames though (note how the > first invocation of `dirname' fails below, and try to understand why > it fails): > > $ testname='foo bar baz' > $ dirname $testname > usage: dirname string > $ dirname "${testname}" > . > $ > > Thank you very much this is exactly what I was looking for. Jay From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 16:12:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF26D16A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from viefep28-int.chello.at (viefep28-int.chello.at [62.179.121.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40B313C457 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from [192.168.1.104] (really [80.99.119.201]) by viefep34-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20071116161158.AKS14138.viefep34-int.chello.at@[192.168.1.104]>; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:11:58 +0100 Message-ID: <473DC14D.1060601@shopzeus.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:11:57 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:12:21 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > Bruce Cran wrote: > >> Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >>> Laszlo wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Is there a way (sysctl?) to tell FreeBSD (6.2 RELEASE) how many >>>> memory can it use for caching file data from disk? >>>> >>>> It might be that FreeBSD will use all available RAM, and reduce the >>>> cache >>>> >>> it already does >>> >> It may seem strange since it's generally accepted that you can never >> have enough disk cache, but FreeBSD apparently doesn't actually use all >> the free memory for caching. By default it uses up to 256MB for >> > > This is wrong. See > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/vm-fileio.html > I read this too but I don't understand. Too difficult for me. So what is the answer? Do I need to set a sysctl or will FreeBSD use all available free memory for caching file data from disk? Thanks, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 16:16:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85AE516A4A5 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36AAF13C458 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so720631rvb for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:15:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8Ji6wqv6e9KLgJBcb1T+MGXX+KJwpVDB7YFZageYYKg=; b=Go109URiqsbb7/24mkjvTQeyzwmh3rzRS+LEWycITbCYnR3GG8bOvubsZbXwvF5A0PRiJtnMbLTKD/79t8zbStiPz6tppD4RxodUZX0/QmHiTau8NVfMvtGw+70jfb+5kruF6ZyhpuewweoZsM8Feg9CppqeuKhIkP9N5BO+RgU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cZ2y/tj1rGzJESvf8/pRxsHsDYG8uOv+WfaXDA7VuAlX8o3BHHEr7xXfqJDElM7XcPa23w47W/A5l0axppl0w/fbEJF6w+11laTbeJESnbOqGhf2W1kSP1w6Yxqx4kfG9SpnznSewbdEaIfBGSFdAWDIMC10TbOdqZhZwzVPZQs= Received: by 10.115.47.1 with SMTP id z1mr116910waj.1195229755091; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:15:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0711160815n2647432bs931f8302133bda23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:15:55 -0500 From: alexus To: girishvenkatachalam@gmail.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> Cc: Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:16:05 -0000 yes, i know that, and i want my defaultroute to stay 192.168.1.1, what i also want is to be able to access it through 216.112.241.30 (fxp1) On Nov 16, 2007 1:38 AM, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > On 00:18:42 Nov 16, alexus wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have two NICs on my box, one (primary) connected to switch and have > > private IP. that IP also have a static route on Cisco PIX for > > accessing this box from outside. the other interface has public IP > > that is connected to another switch, i configure both IPs through > > /etc/rc.conf, but I can not for some reason access my box through that > > public IP, no firewall rules would prevent me from doing so. here is > > my output for netstat -rn > > > > alexus# netstat -rn > > Routing tables > > > > Internet: > > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > > default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 250 fxp0 > > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2 lo0 > > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 > > 192.168.1.1 00:0d:29:09:90:61 UHLW 2 2 fxp0 1171 > > 192.168.1.250 00:16:cb:94:10:e9 UHLW 1 12 fxp0 1169 > > 216.112.241.24/29 link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 > > Your default route is 192.168.1.1 and not 216.112.241.24 > > regards, > Girish > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 16:20:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5627116A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6513C4E7 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAGGK3EI014143; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:20:03 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lAGGK2Lu001543; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:20:02 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99C71F8003; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:19:56 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: Oliver Peter In-Reply-To: <20071116104400.GG16621@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> References: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> <20071116104400.GG16621@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:19:56 -0700 Message-Id: <1195229996.4124.6.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:20:10 -0000 On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 11:44 +0100, Oliver Peter wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 03:45:28PM -0700, James wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > first, I know the subject line is a goldmine for jokes, but I couldn't > > think of a better way to phrase it. > > > > Ever since I moved to FreeBSD 7.0, the evolution mail client has become > > ridiculously slow for me. It takes two or three minutes to start up, > > right clicking on a folder takes several minutes to display a context > > menu etc > > > > My install process was as follows: > > > > 1. backup my home directory from a FreeBSD 6.2 install > > 2. Format the hard drive > > 3. Install 7.0 beta 1.5 > > 4. csup sources and install beta 2.0 > > 5. pkg_add xorg, gnome etc -- evolution was slow as a dog from this > > 6. portsnap fetch extract > > 7. follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating gnome > > > > I tried cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution && make deinstall && make > > reinstall, to see if something had simply gone wrong during the build, > > but nothing changed. > > > > Any ideas? > > An random idea: What scheduler are you using in your kernel > configuration? Do you already use SCHED_ULE ? > I built it according to defaults, so I've got the GENERIC kernel running right now. As such, I don't know the answer to your question, but if you tell me how to check I'll get back to you :) James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 16:29:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3296016A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:29:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E521813C455 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so725229rvb for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=xgHumkN56CeU2jaTcA+5Eu2HdC/66i0imw2odYplIPU=; b=ZzYKRhsyOGgdXqGUnQBz/kJniwPeIyZhbsRDDziup8UkPnYi4bVWC+vyHR1jSkiNcJ40Gq/Jg7gnDFv3S/mf3v2al683gQJl345NoFCnqLi/Mt1FofzYz05iZtnh93krOKTL/1Yj5geQs4k17Kw/6KHll2iW9VqKRPxbKZU2AXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=aIHbgOxhI9rbXXaoXML4HNuM8p4XzaOU/S3c0J3ENOPrDg2h/U0zc3sXf+whU0zqsKhcSLXctggdtB+jz7YXiUB4WQZFsPapcGxBsvlbj5sm0D9UHza0Na2oA5BAKyW41c1jd5hM4kIz5BbfdUNFv8VQrN5nj2zPM2YCihIZ+cc= Received: by 10.140.172.6 with SMTP id u6mr358188rve.1195230564704; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.211.5 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9bbcef730711160829s186d0784g8546c2656f913c0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:29:24 +0100 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "Laszlo Nagy" In-Reply-To: <473DC14D.1060601@shopzeus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> <473DC14D.1060601@shopzeus.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5dcafc46b065c4ac Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:29:29 -0000 On 16/11/2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > Ivan Voras wrote: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/vm-fileio.html > > > I read this too but I don't understand. Too difficult for me. > > So what is the answer? Do I need to set a sysctl or will FreeBSD use all > available free memory for caching file data from disk? You don't need to change anything, it's the default state. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 16:50:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C152616A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E24A13C457 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:50:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1115540waf for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:50:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hwhafUFcOYSFgnuEicrSW+w27ZZHfvbGub1YBmKPUHc=; b=iEHW+q2vIeQXNRMlQEgt2ytNhSw5lsNQk05WoZhbDsXmIeZzs0PFzCI3C1pM/z+tPdlcQ+NFYwDWoxMGZ6A5aS8SZO9dzy/9A7GreCv6ShCDpwqeO0QyX5Qmlvqr51zYVUIHSjvMnRDLxzwkFSV32EpITVmj5P/hkX0NCotKso0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ZOIq3d7eM/+oO8EoWWl1AClLRluaTNwlkO/bpOIZO4aLN2/hOX9Xt4xIJhrfya421/90rRRJ7WlOSpC7j3yL/X6w0PukhSHzeS+JglhKIwUcrQI3RHpDf82snlOxK/84q0cbCputLBC4UgrUjlGkj0qS0t3WJUh/8mIHzUYIqEU= Received: by 10.114.124.1 with SMTP id w1mr627249wac.1195231847428; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:50:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:50:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:50:47 -0500 From: alexus To: "Steve Bertrand" In-Reply-To: <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:50:48 -0000 my private IP that eventually resolves to public IP through PIX is different then coming from my other public IP that assigned on my fxp1 that comes from another ISP, the fxp1 IP already configured this way so it pass everything to my box what i've tried is adding route on my box route add 216.112.241.24 216.112.241.25 255.255.255.248 still not go:( On Nov 16, 2007 8:54 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Girish Venkatachalam wrote: > > On 00:18:42 Nov 16, alexus wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have two NICs on my box, one (primary) connected to switch and have > >> private IP. that IP also have a static route on Cisco PIX for > >> accessing this box from outside. the other interface has public IP > >> that is connected to another switch, i configure both IPs through > >> /etc/rc.conf, but I can not for some reason access my box through that > >> public IP, no firewall rules would prevent me from doing so. here is > >> my output for netstat -rn > >> > > -- snip > > > Your default route is 192.168.1.1 and not 216.112.241.24 > > Yes, but if he changes that, then he won't be able to access the box via > the PIX (private) connection. > > I will make these assumptions, then elaborate: > > The box in question is at your office. You are at home trying to access > it. The connection works by connecting to the public IP of the PIX (that > gets port-forwarded back), but does not work when accessing the direct > Internet facing port. > > I'm willing to bet that if you run a tcpdump on your machine at home you > are attempting the connection to the 216.112.241.x IP, you will actually > find that the machine is getting back to you just fine. However, many > OS's will drop a 'spoofed' packet. Essentially what is likely happening > is this: > > - you send from home a packet to 216.112.241.x. > - the office router/box accepts it > - the office router looks up in it's routing table a path back to your > home IP > - it has no particular route, so it sends it out the default gateway > (192.168.1.1) > - your pc at home notices that the packet was sent to a destination IP, > but it came back from a different one (the outside IP of the PIX) > - the packet is dropped as the source address is spoofed > > There are a couple ways to fix this. The first and easiest is if you are > only trying to connect to this box's public IP from one location, add a > static route on the office box to that network that routes to it's > public upstream > > The other way is to utilize policy-based routing. IPFW can do this, and > (from what I understand) so can PF. (In Cisco-land, you would use a > route-map). > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 17:02:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 5947F16A468; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20071116170200.5947F16A468@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:02:00 -0000 How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org (obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good results that way. IV: How to submit a question ============================= When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. ``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't reply to some other message, erase the old content and change the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you also run a chance of having the message deleted unread. 4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out badly formatted messages without you finding out about them: Eudora exmh Microsoft Exchange Microsoft Internet Mail Microsoft Outlook Netscape As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 17:02:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id 65B2816A46B; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20071116170200.65B2816A46B@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:02:00 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 17:03:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D59816A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QJ=ce8c981a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6910E13C46B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:03:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QJ=ce8c981a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8554163F6A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:31:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D42DD05B0 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:31:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:31:07 +0000 From: RW To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071116163107.08f98921@gumby.homeunix.com.> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Odd memory stick formatting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:03:46 -0000 I have a couple of USB devices that I mount as /dev/da0s1, which what I would expect. I've just got a memory stick that's showing as /dev/da0 & /dev/da0s4. and only /dev/da0 mounts. The output of fdisk is garbage, showing four unfeasibly large partitions with unknown sysid values. On the other hand it seems to work fine as da0. Is this normal, or should I repartition. If the latter is there anything particular I need to do to maintain Windows compatibility - I've a vague recollection that Windows leave a gap before the first partition, or something. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 17:08:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0BD16A46C for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E8D13C45A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 90561 invoked by uid 1002); 16 Nov 2007 17:08:03 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 11.981083 secs); 16 Nov 2007 17:08:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 17:07:50 -0000 Message-ID: <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:07:52 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alexus References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:08:05 -0000 alexus wrote: > my private IP that eventually resolves to public IP through PIX is > different then coming from my other public IP that assigned on my fxp1 > that comes from another ISP, the fxp1 IP already configured this way > so it pass everything to my box > > what i've tried is adding route on my box > > route add 216.112.241.24 216.112.241.25 255.255.255.248 Wait a minute...this doesn't look right... Try this: # route add $homeIP/$netmask $gateway Where: - if you have a static IP at 'home', $netmask should be /32, otherwise, you'll need to shorten the prefix (such like /24) This will depend on your 'home' Internet provider setup - $gateway is the next hop upstream on the interface that has 216.112.241.x address on it. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 17:15:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C3D616A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:15:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C4F213C459 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAGHCAXk020841; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:12:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAGHCAPB020840; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:12:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:12:10 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: kev sadasda Message-ID: <20071116171210.GF20139@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <696643.68048.qm@web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <696643.68048.qm@web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:15:58 -0000 On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:12:59PM -0800, kev sadasda wrote: > I am trying to install freebsd over ftp but it always > says, cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org > > I told it to use dchp but it didnt do anything even > though my router's dhcp server was on. it kept on > saying > > dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > interval .. > > So I tried to fill in the infos but it always said > cannot resolve.. as soon as I pressed ok. It looks like no DHCP server is responding to it. Is there supposed to be a DHCP server listening to you? Do you usually use DHCP from that machine? or do you have to use a fixed address? or is this the first time you have tried to put this machine on the net? Anyway, if you have to enter your own info, you cannot both do that and have DHCP turned on. You have to DHCP setting off then enter your fixed IP address, your Default Name server, your default gateway and your netmask as given by your Internet provider. >From a quick glance, it looks like you are trying to use both DHCP and fixed IP addresses. In addition, it looks like the IPs you are trying to assign are private network IPs rather than public network addresses. You need to talk with whoever is providing you network service. Also, take a look at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/privip.htm http://www.pku.edu.cn/academic/research/computer-center/tc/html/TC0305.html And probably some parts of the FreeBSD Handbook ////jerry > > ////jerry > > These are my infos. > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : > sasdasda-164680 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : > gv.shawcable.net > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > gv.shawcable.net > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : CNet > PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet Adap > ter > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : > 00-80-AD-88-97-D8 > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : > 192.168.0.102 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : > 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > 192.168.0.1 > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : > 192.168.0.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : > 192.168.0.1 > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, > November 15, 2007 10:05:10 > PM > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, > November 22, 2007 10:05:10 > PM > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make Yahoo! your homepage. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 17:48:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B0916A46B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E6513C468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 92662 invoked by uid 1002); 16 Nov 2007 17:48:56 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.702002 secs); 16 Nov 2007 17:48:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 17:48:49 -0000 Message-ID: <473DD804.1020502@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:48:52 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD router and WCCP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:48:57 -0000 Does anyone know of a way to configure WCCP redirect support into a FreeBSD based router without having to install squid? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 18:11:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDC316A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:11:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdathome@shaw.ca) Received: from pd6mo3no.prod.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19A013C469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:11:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdathome@shaw.ca) Received: from pd5mr5no.prod.shaw.ca (pd5mr5no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.144.216]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0JRM006WW2JG6B20@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:11:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from pd6ms1no.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.145.192]) by pd5mr5no.prod.shaw.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JRM007BT2JG1150@pd5mr5no.prod.shaw.ca> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:11:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from shaw.ca (pd6ms1no-con [10.0.145.192]) by l-daemon (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006)) with ESMTP id <0JRM00LW32JGSM50@l-daemon> for FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:11:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.0.144.232] (Forwarded-For: [10.0.146.232]) by pd6ims1.prod.shaw.ca (mshttpd); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:11:40 -0800 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:11:40 -0800 From: Andriy Babiy In-reply-to: <696643.68048.qm@web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> To: kev sadasda Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-7.05 (built Sep 5 2006) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <696643.68048.qm@web57403.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:11:46 -0000 > I am trying to install freebsd over ftp but it always > says, cannot resolve ftp.freebsd.org > > I told it to use dchp but it didnt do anything even > though my router's dhcp server was on. it kept on > saying > > dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > interval .. Have you tried to unplug your modem from the power for 1 minute? Usually, this is an advise you'll get from Shaw support. And usually, it really helps. Andriy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 18:19:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4E016A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dk@tetsuo.karasik.eu.org) Received: from tetsuo.karasik.eu.org (tetsuo.karasik.eu.org [129.142.67.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF43A13C459 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:19:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dk@tetsuo.karasik.eu.org) Received: by tetsuo.karasik.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 6B57C616638; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:02:01 +0100 (CET) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Keywords: 2001334874 Sender: dk@tetsuo.karasik.eu.org To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Dmitry Karasik Date: 16 Nov 2007 19:02:01 +0100 Message-ID: <84y7cyqdba.fsf@tetsuo.karasik.eu.org> Lines: 35 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Subject: No kernel messages displayed during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:19:55 -0000 Hello, My 6.2-STABLE crashed today, and when I rebooted it, a very strange effect appeared: from the second the kernel took over, immediately after loading all .ko files, no text was printed in the console. The system booted though, and the next text was printed to the console was the login prompt. The screen didn't went blank, just all kernel messages and output of /etc/rc* wasn't there -- all was printed on the screen was FreeBSD boot menu, and login prompt. I've re-run 'make installworld' and 'make installkernel' (as I had leftovers from recent buildworld), - didn't help. I've tried to power down the machine (suspecied video card trouble), I've resetted BIOS, I've even disabled com port in BIOS (because the behavior looks like booting on serial console) -- nothing, absolutely nothing changes it. When I tried to boot in single-user mode, the prompt was never displayed at all, which fact indeed makes me think alogn the path of the wrong boot console. I've removed /boot/loader.conf, and double-checked that /boot.config isn't present - didn't help. My question is therefore, what cause of this effect might be? Or, if noone would be able to answer this, how I would print messages from kernel (I'd recompile it for that purpose) to identify which device it picked up for console IO -- and especially, how I print that either to a file, or directly to /dev/console? -- Thank you, Dmitry Karasik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 18:47:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA4316A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from mesiob.obspm.fr (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C49913C43E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:47:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Albert.Shih@obspm.fr) Received: from localhost (pcjas.obspm.fr [145.238.184.233]) by mesiob.obspm.fr (8.13.4/8.13.4/SIO Observatoire de Paris) with ESMTP id lAGIlVIw030394; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:47:31 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:47:31 +0100 From: Albert Shih To: Dmitry Karasik Message-ID: <20071116184731.GI60936@pcjas.obspm.fr> References: <84y7cyqdba.fsf@tetsuo.karasik.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <84y7cyqdba.fsf@tetsuo.karasik.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mesiob.obspm.fr [145.238.2.2]); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:47:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on mesiob.obspm.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: No kernel messages displayed during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert.Shih@obspm.fr List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:47:44 -0000 Le 16/11/2007 à 19:02:01+0100, Dmitry Karasik a écrit > > Hello, > > My 6.2-STABLE crashed today, and when I rebooted it, a very > strange effect appeared: from the second the kernel took > over, immediately after loading all .ko files, no text > was printed in the console. The system booted though, > and the next text was printed to the console was the > login prompt. The screen didn't went blank, just all > kernel messages and output of /etc/rc* wasn't there -- all > was printed on the screen was FreeBSD boot menu, and login > prompt. I don't known if my experience is the same as your. But when I have two KVM with a HP Proliant DL 380 G5 I've got exact same problem. but when I connect the screen directly to the server the problem disapear. Don't known if this message can help you. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH Observatoire de Paris Meudon SIO batiment 15 Téléphone : 01 45 07 76 26 Heure local/Local time: Ven 16 nov 2007 19:45:31 CET From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 19:13:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F58F16A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D1D13C45A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 20090 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2007 19:13:16 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 16 Nov 2007 19:13:16 -0000 Message-ID: <473DEB7D.3030508@chuckr.org> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:11:57 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4738ACDD.50108@u.washington.edu> <4738ADC8.2060005@gmx.de> <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> <20071115221638.GC76155@demeter.hydra> <473D14DC.4070104@chuckr.org> <20071116151734.GB80515@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20071116151734.GB80515@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:13:26 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: I personally felt we'd sufficiently discussed this to death, but now there's 2 different folks who want to tear it apart some more. If you're bored of this, tell me, and I will drag these folks either into private discussions, or maybe onto the ports list. Tell me if you've heard enough of this ..... Read below for my comments. > On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 10:56:12PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >> Chad Perrin wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 03:34:26PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >>>> Chad Perrin wrote: >>>>> On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:23:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: >>>>>> This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a >>>>>> regular editor can manipulate it; the special ports program is needed >>>>>> to set or reset this list. All ports query this list in making the >>>>>> decision as to whether or whether not to include a particular port as a >>>>>> dependency. >>>>> Ugh. As far as I'm concerned, everything that pertains to system >>>>> configuration should always be human-readable and editable without >>>>> special tools. Trying to insulate things from human ability to directly >>>>> manipulate them tends to lead to rapidly increasing difficulty of >>>>> debugging configurations. >>>> I might have agreed with this, except, I have lived for a good while >>>> with the Gentoo "USE" lists, and I can tell you that having insufficent >>>> control over what goes ontp those lists causes havoc both with the users >>>> trying to select the proper wording of the lists, and the programmers >>>> trying to decide how to have a particular USE keyword represent a >>>> particular ports usage. You have to make certain that both users and >>>> programmers have a definite, firm meaning in mind when they use the >>>> keywords, because (in another's well chosen words) if you don't, USE >>>> lists are a PITA. It takes firmer control of meaning to make certain >>>> that the list doesn't devolve into that. >>>> >>>> This is actual experience talking, in this case. >>> I don't see how that translates into "the user should not be allowed to >>> view what's going on behind the scenes in a text editor if (s)he wants >>> to." >>> >> I think you're becoming confused about who said what, because that >> particular line (the last paragraph above) isn't anything that I wrote. > > Quote: > > This makes a little file of descriptor words, but it's not set so a > regular editor can manipulate it > > That's the point I'm addressing. No more, and no less. The response I > received to addressing that did not seem to provide much support for that > quoted statement, so I let you know that I don't see how that translates > to "the user should not . . ." et cetera. It's because, in actual experience with a system based upon usage of keywords (a bit more compllicated than what I'm suggesting, but it IS a real-life system, specifically Gentoo Linux. As someone else (I forget who) said (and I fully agreed with him), "USE lists are a PITA. That's true. I can't point with the same agsolute certainty to the reasons it's a PITA, I think I know them, but the facts are as I stated. Personally, I believe it's because the meanings of the keywords are insufficiently standardized. That's my own opinion, but the fact that maintaining USE lists is a PITA is fairly clear. I want to move all the work of specifying the dependencies used by ports from being done at build time to being done at system install time. Further, I want to decouple the choosing of actual ports from dependencies also ... I want users to say something like "I have no audio", and this statement to be coded as NO_AUDIO, and all ports to be guided by the settings of the list keeping this info. I have no name for the lists, but I don't want to call them USE lists, because I'm not suggesting we slavishly follow Gentoo on this, and using the same name would give that impression. Maybe MACHINE_DEFS, something like that? I'm not particularly good at making names. A second part of this suggestion was a reject list of regular expressions, and any ports matched would be ineligible to be built or installed. Lastly, my point about making sure that both the users and the ports authors use the exact same meanings is, in my opinion, the detail missing from the Gentoo implementation, so I'm proposing that the maintenanace of the list be done thru a particular tool, which will prominently display the actual meaning of the word being set. The only reason to make the list binary is to force everyone to use the (basically database technology) tool to manipulate the keywords, thus stopping folks from misconstruing the meanings. That's my only reason for that, and there are certainly other ways to go about it, so as long as whatever is suggested requires folks to see the commonly accepted definition when they set the list, I don't care how it's done. The list could as easily be encrypted, I guess, that would also cause the same work flow, in somewhat the same reasoning as we use for forcing folks to use "vipw" to change the pasword list. Please consider that we'll get another chance to argue this out when I have the software ready, so we don't need to settle it now. I don't want this to continue to pollute the -questions list. > >> At that point, I will prepare, in advance, use cases, all the >> documentation, and the actual code, and everyone will get their chance >> to rant and rave, alrighty? You can stop me cold, if enough folks don't >> like the idea, that's how the development of FreeBSD goes, and I >> wouldn't change a thing with that. > > I'd rather that you produce software I want than software I don't, > though. That's why I tend to feel that it's better to sort out what is > and isn't wanted, why it is and isn't wanted, and both whether and how > that applies to what you propose to produce, before it's produced. > > Obviously, I'm not saying that what I personally want should be the > driving force behind FreeBSD, but from where I'm sitting that's the > important part. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:04:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E7916A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevcormier@yahoo.com) Received: from n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C9DB913C4E1 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevcormier@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n7.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 19:50:36 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.146] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 19:50:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp204.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 19:50:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 828059.80411.bm@omp204.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77816 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2007 19:50:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=iHUdWQU5bSTIJ7baGji+KBTzkfx3m2NbVmkz/1paF3/UokJWPysIA21r8dO0BXjGMMcJM8xHi+9KarYbtFOF99U9/Hwo0UANo3OUEsu6Fu5Qa6mNRMgvt9P1F4UdF3sLH0ZAReZ1VGnxDwzIgiAHgJVz2UxePBVqo4+mXYvpo28=; X-YMail-OSG: 1WEcty4VM1mzxxrQxRoJnXNfiJrPBSYn_r1CpJrGZKB_tirbnfG1hkn6FRuMK0JSc2GIodY5cploDfe8GzNZUBFBEw-- Received: from [24.69.77.165] by web57411.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:50:36 PST Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:50:36 -0800 (PST) From: kev sadasda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <219355.77524.qm@web57411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:04:19 -0000 I forgot to explain that my computer is behind a home router connected to the cable modem. The dhcp server is working on the router it gives me an ip address in windows. So I think the problem is that freebsd isnt finding the server. It is failing with dhcpdiscover on dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval.. But I dont know what to do about that. This is the status info from the router. LAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BC IP Address 192.168.0.1 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0 DHCP Server Enabled WAN MAC Address 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BD Connection DHCP Client Connected IP Address 24.69.77.165 Subnet Mask 255.255.252.0 Default Gateway 24.69.76.1 DNS 64.59.160.13 64.59.160.15 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:10:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0981A16A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:10:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDFF013C48A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAGKA5nf006164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:10:05 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from dzihan.cs.washington.edu (dzihan.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.96]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAGK9xG5032658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:10:04 -0800 Message-ID: <473DF917.4060703@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:09:59 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <473D2C62.3040707@u.washington.edu> <473D2DBD.2030100@gmail.com> <200711160052.00058.freysman@comcast.net> <473DB2C8.7010101@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <473DB2C8.7010101@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.16.115326 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: David J Brooks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unimpressive buildworld time X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:10:07 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > >> And here I was thinking it was a 'my machine can beat up your >> machine' thread. ;) >> >> > > The orginial thread perhaps this one is along the lines of I did > everything I could to slow buildworld down and this is how I did it. > Speaking of that the worst I have seen was my current machine under > 6.2-RELEASE, didn't time buildworld but installworld was 4 hours. > > > - -- > Aryeh M. Friedman > Developer, not business, friendly > http://www.flosoft-systems.com > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHPbLHJ9+1V27SttsRAuMvAJ0TaFDUCLKzzBupl55q89BjGKQiYgCZAVgs > NSaR4zK4Jt+n4DMYyXbpC54= > =vXEt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Try make buildkernel / buildworld on a P1 133 MHz machine with 16MB of RAM. Now that was painful, even with stripped down options (and long... 36 hours long...). -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:13:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804D416A420 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9F713C447 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAGKDiRO015076 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:44 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from dzihan.cs.washington.edu (dzihan.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.96]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAGKDeOt019503 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:43 -0800 Message-ID: <473DF9F4.8030502@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:13:40 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cuongvt References: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.16.115326 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:13:48 -0000 cuongvt wrote: > After got below news from OSnews.com yesterday (I was late), > I inserted RELENG_7 to my /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > as below: > > *default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > Then I exec: > cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.jp.freebsd.org > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > > Then I -j10 buildworld, build kernel, install kernel, then as single > mode I installworld. > After that, when I uname -a, it output is: > FreeBSD hanhnhu.local 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri > Nov 16 19:48:47 ICT 2007 > Where I was wrong? > Tnx in advanced. > ================================ > > > "The 7.0-BETA2 builds have completed and are on many of the FreeBSD mirror > sites. If you want to update an existing machine using cvsup use RELENG_7 as > the branch tag. Instructions on using FreeBSD Update to perform a binary > upgrade from FreeBSD 6.x to 7.0-BETA2 will be provided via the > freebsd-stable list when available." > Wasn't tag "releng_7", not "RELENG_7"?? CVS is CaSe SeNsItIvE, ya know? -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:23:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010F016A46D for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA3E13C469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:23:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1183532waf for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:23:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=748SrNQOI5xSskv3uFg4IPX9TQtnDhKzjW9Op0+6/co=; b=IqDOn7n0Vt3Q26cDvUWyZXQLTrg+Yfd62XOQ82UXfKOWnK+xMnmSPqXC47mB0/Dviei0339Ky/A88tOPfrt1zgU3aNsbzg8bzw/yNvxWnoJx4PD7shhnJEPA3XuA5IvbmrQtICpc+y+Ku7Nv3yiQaTwrU92gzm4g2zX6+6fj30g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bN6uhYyVCARZiK6IHjhqseF6BMF6QppU2exeJekiv/ZA8x+u404MY4P2XQ/mBxibQEcAF/PnYUmJ0tfns+UmLLCW1GWNemdl6GMHK41pdHxuUrx/tQ2Qwcozg6VeabeRpXyUaA1CEt03O0+LD10Bs6qdrG5BaQV8wKmp4VA0VFU= Received: by 10.114.179.1 with SMTP id b1mr642736waf.1195244601207; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:23:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:23:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:23:21 -0500 From: alexus To: "Steve Bertrand" In-Reply-To: <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:23:23 -0000 i dont see any difference as at the end i still get this 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 in my netstat -rn, and no its still doesn't work... On Nov 16, 2007 12:07 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > alexus wrote: > > my private IP that eventually resolves to public IP through PIX is > > different then coming from my other public IP that assigned on my fxp1 > > that comes from another ISP, the fxp1 IP already configured this way > > so it pass everything to my box > > > > what i've tried is adding route on my box > > > > route add 216.112.241.24 216.112.241.25 255.255.255.248 > > Wait a minute...this doesn't look right... > > Try this: > > # route add $homeIP/$netmask $gateway > > Where: > > - if you have a static IP at 'home', $netmask should be /32, otherwise, > you'll need to shorten the prefix (such like /24) This will depend on > your 'home' Internet provider setup > > - $gateway is the next hop upstream on the interface that has > 216.112.241.x address on it. > > Steve > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:24:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE1A16A474 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E61413C46B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EE6AF961B8; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:24:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.177.200] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1It7jR-0000Bl-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:24:06 +0100 Message-ID: <473DFC50.3090700@web.de> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:23:44 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kev sadasda References: <219355.77524.qm@web57411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <219355.77524.qm@web57411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Ica1cyQwqYC3YTXrs8t6DUIBr3YWU8qq8ri0O V8xB6ZiPTRbTATFibQGdEW22v6OKxdERD/cJKGd6ooZIFmP/6M gaG7kyFgE= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:24:07 -0000 kev sadasda schrieb: > I forgot to explain that my computer is behind a home > router connected to the cable modem. The dhcp server > is working on the router it gives me an ip address in > windows. So I think the problem is that freebsd isnt > finding the server. It is failing with dhcpdiscover on > dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > interval.. But I dont know what to do about that. > > This is the status info from the router. > > LAN > MAC Address > 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BC > IP Address > 192.168.0.1 > Subnet Mask > 255.255.255.0 > DHCP Server > Enabled > > WAN > MAC Address > 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BD > Connection > DHCP Client Connected > IP Address > 24.69.77.165 > Subnet Mask > 255.255.252.0 > Default Gateway > 24.69.76.1 > DNS > 64.59.160.13 64.59.160.15 > > Does the network options screen fill in the values automatically? Do you try IPv6 configuration? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:28:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893CE16A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4333A13C45A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:28:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so945099nzf for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:28:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=rK9f6q31Poaank6oMpjMqS6SVKpZzgsCXTk0ZKw4GB8=; b=pLsaYf4IYZDPZ2r/bTayZ+ljYCme45fwP0UM/D8zRRBDd0H+OXAN0cxEOb+UheY6FAbH0O+0UiqEvZq+9+piYOtwobpCVh94vmbBQdkDX3OGlZ/z3FjTgaSK0uwxu7ZBfyDEtYiEME7E4LqbKpZmYPld3pe2d6IlG/EBm+ymEyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=JfbRVBhiohjaLfUg5itrmV1t+lR6/45ps+CL7/ZPUrVvc9NDOpQ+oKu97IH+wo4Q109boS4H4lz8/IGAo/T5Xc3pQWpwTlWcZ0zZnSdLbLr2e/uM75NTeZY4YFZ7bJ/2DVm6qfJQfFJY4rnUk6t2EvAEPjWSjXs+9jiTkqmNHmg= Received: by 10.114.134.1 with SMTP id h1mr539706wad.1195243235824; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f55sm7857585pyh.2007.11.16.12.00.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:00:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20071116163107.08f98921@gumby.homeunix.com.> References: <20071116163107.08f98921@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <872d7612f1aab5af37242400a6622f9c@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:00:35 -0600 To: RW X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd memory stick formatting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:28:21 -0000 On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:31 AM, RW wrote: > > I have a couple of USB devices that I mount as /dev/da0s1, which what I > would expect. > > I've just got a memory stick that's showing as /dev/da0 & /dev/da0s4. > and only /dev/da0 mounts. The output of fdisk is garbage, showing four > unfeasibly large partitions with unknown sysid values. > > On the other hand it seems to work fine as da0. > > Is this normal, or should I repartition. If the latter is there > anything > particular I need to do to maintain Windows compatibility - I've a > vague recollection that Windows leave a gap before the first > partition, or something. > I've seen some usb flash drives that under windows, mounts as two separate and independent filesystems, one of which is a cd-rom. Try mounting the other partition as cd9660 and see if that works and you get to see all the software they preload onto the drives. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:48:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F9B16A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4703213C459 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAGKiecF022619; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:44:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAGKieqj022618; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:44:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:44:40 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: kev sadasda Message-ID: <20071116204440.GB22552@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <219355.77524.qm@web57411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <219355.77524.qm@web57411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:48:29 -0000 On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 11:50:36AM -0800, kev sadasda wrote: > I forgot to explain that my computer is behind a home > router connected to the cable modem. The dhcp server > is working on the router it gives me an ip address in > windows. So I think the problem is that freebsd isnt > finding the server. It is failing with dhcpdiscover on > dc0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 > interval.. But I dont know what to do about that. That helps make things more clear. I am not very knowledgeable about using DHCP and setting up routers (I am spoiled by being in a very highspeed net with fixed addresses for every system I need) so hopefully someone else will weigh in. Is your router functioning as a firewall too? Maybe you have to look in to passive ftp. ////jerry > > This is the status info from the router. > > LAN > MAC Address > 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BC > IP Address > 192.168.0.1 > Subnet Mask > 255.255.255.0 > DHCP Server > Enabled > > WAN > MAC Address > 00-0F-3D-5B-E3-BD > Connection > DHCP Client Connected > IP Address > 24.69.77.165 > Subnet Mask > 255.255.252.0 > Default Gateway > 24.69.76.1 > DNS > 64.59.160.13 64.59.160.15 > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:53:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A01F16A476 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from cenn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (cenn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAD613C458 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [208.42.70.163]) by cenn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA12816E; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:53:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from build64.tcbug.org (unknown [208.42.70.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B7A10AA89F; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:53:44 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:53:41 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> <473DF9F4.8030502@u.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <473DF9F4.8030502@u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2293423.fTMP63PsVW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200711161453.45484.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Garrett Cooper , cuongvt Subject: Re: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:53:49 -0000 --nextPart2293423.fTMP63PsVW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 16 November 2007 02:13:40 pm Garrett Cooper wrote: > cuongvt wrote: > > After got below news from OSnews.com yesterday (I was late), > > I inserted RELENG_7 to my /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > > as below: > > > > *default host=3DCHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=3D/var/db > > *default prefix=3D/usr > > *default release=3Dcvs tag=3DRELENG_7 > > *default delete use-rel-suffix > > *default compress > > src-all > > Then I exec: > > cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.jp.freebsd.org > > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > > > > Then I -j10 buildworld, build kernel, install kernel, then as single > > mode I installworld. > > After that, when I uname -a, it output is: > > FreeBSD hanhnhu.local 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri > > Nov 16 19:48:47 ICT 2007 > > Where I was wrong? > > Tnx in advanced. > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > > > "The 7.0-BETA2 builds have completed and are on many of the FreeBSD > > mirror sites. If you want to update an existing machine using cvsup use > > RELENG_7 as the branch tag. Instructions on using FreeBSD Update to > > perform a binary upgrade from FreeBSD 6.x to 7.0-BETA2 will be provided > > via the > > freebsd-stable list when available." > > Wasn't tag "releng_7", not "RELENG_7"?? CVS is CaSe SeNsItIvE, ya know? > -Garrett No, it's definitely RELENG_7...and even if you used the wrong case all you'= d=20 do is delete everything in /usr/src Really the only way to end up with 8.0-CURRENT is to build from HEAD, which= =20 means somehow /usr/src got populated, whether with a supfile with . in it o= r=20 what is impossible to say. Regardless, there's no real supported downgrade procedure. It's probably=20 possible, but you are in wizard territory. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB --nextPart2293423.fTMP63PsVW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHPgNZJvkB8SevrssRAtgxAJ9tLXfNbVl3pKtMM3Q7YuV+bgG6DQCfZra+ RIrMnAhqgZL4itbrOSkU6ng= =2v1p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2293423.fTMP63PsVW-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 20:55:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FAD16A469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:55:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF7813C465 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so951781nzf for ; 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Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:55:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0711161255t67ffa5a9y870ce91af572cf1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:55:47 -0500 From: alexus To: "Bram Van Steenlandt" In-Reply-To: <473E10CB.6030001@diomedia.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> <473E10CB.6030001@diomedia.be> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:55:51 -0000 i'm pretty sure you can do it on freebsd, especially if its possible on Linux, routing works same way as on Linux On Nov 16, 2007 4:51 PM, Bram Van Steenlandt wrote: > > alexus wrote: > > i dont see any difference as at the end i still get this > > > > 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 > > > > in my netstat -rn, and no its still doesn't work... > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 2007 12:07 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > > > >> alexus wrote: > >> > >>> my private IP that eventually resolves to public IP through PIX is > >>> different then coming from my other public IP that assigned on my fxp1 > >>> that comes from another ISP, the fxp1 IP already configured this way > >>> so it pass everything to my box > >>> > >>> what i've tried is adding route on my box > >>> > >>> route add 216.112.241.24 216.112.241.25 255.255.255.248 > >>> > >> Wait a minute...this doesn't look right... > >> > >> Try this: > >> > >> # route add $homeIP/$netmask $gateway > >> > >> Where: > >> > >> - if you have a static IP at 'home', $netmask should be /32, otherwise, > >> you'll need to shorten the prefix (such like /24) This will depend on > >> your 'home' Internet provider setup > >> > >> - $gateway is the next hop upstream on the interface that has > >> 216.112.241.x address on it. > >> > >> Steve > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > I'm kind of new to freebsd so forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought this > was not possible with freebsd in a simple way. > On linux you can create a default route for each interface thus packet > get routed properly, on freebsd you can only have one default route (I > think) so this is not really possible. > > > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 21:04:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4995116A417 for ; 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(steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Nov 2007 21:04:42 -0000 Message-ID: <473E05ED.7080004@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:04:45 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alexus References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:04:51 -0000 alexus wrote: > i dont see any difference as at the end i still get this > > 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 > > in my netstat -rn, and no its still doesn't work... This is not the point. You need a route via the gateway that 216 is connected to for the REMOTE IP/network. Say for instance your 'home' connection is: 64.39.177.22, then you need a route like this: route add 64.39.177.22/32 $isp_gateway What you have: 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 ...says '206.112.241.24/29 should be routed to 216.112.241.25. That is ALL it will route via that path. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 21:26:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD1A16A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevcormier@yahoo.com) Received: from n3.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com (n3.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.56.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F8E513C459 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kevcormier@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n3.bullet.re4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 21:26:54 -0000 Received: from [66.196.97.133] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 21:26:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Nov 2007 21:26:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 397027.72424.bm@omp106.mail.re3.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49902 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Nov 2007 21:26:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PoX/jPmny95GwmS9Hl27B9LJMjJwwsona8orhRCt65AkmAhQSUJaYB5q6uaT6FQnngM0WejXOmsMER13eFcnM4kDQW/NguMgRfBA6oPDwPCC4UJVTzI1Qyr1pyzNYgq8gt+4ewLFTM2e8wa39UdbDPHuKovqhLjBuKhNxVC7Wuk=; X-YMail-OSG: YnIK9csVM1kZKN6V_R4StzbuY8E6sIN.tnttrpEERdNBaujnF7qeVN4GxWEQa0gJG7BNCc0UUjYpw2us8pjpFQ9C.rXgE0rqT0DeUUyoG_gWaFbIJ.QXnpkRA8ilfYem Received: from [24.69.77.165] by web57406.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:26:54 PST Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:26:54 -0800 (PST) From: kev sadasda To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071116204440.GB22552@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <172739.48312.qm@web57406.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Help how to set up networking for ftp install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:26:56 -0000 > Is your router functioning as a firewall too? > Maybe you have to look in to passive ftp. But it isnt getting to the ftp part it is not even getting the infos from the dhcp server. > Does the network options screen fill in the values > automatically? No it is all blank. So I tried filling it in but it didnt work. > Do you try IPv6 configuration? I tried it but it didnt do anything I am sure I am not useing ipv6. > Have you tried to unplug your modem from the power > for 1 minute? Usually, this is an advise you'll get > from Shaw support. And usually, it really helps. I tried that but it didnt help. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 21:36:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6EA716A41A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 794A113C468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexus@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1203250waf for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:36:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0kId3S9JS8B6kCl/sjq0zg9ZSJ+aQ+Lutlgdwf5s0oI=; b=HW6y4Z6auQVqJuUw4Wsb0d+XW40k47sujoaZUJJN3B8LOppAms4Q6utb3HsDOBGsbXKdWJpMWpk68r5HGPalQz4B+fL0OWrdozUDwDrGCSw3qpq4h4Uj6A+1R/sUPOjKK74ta8aghnHKz1g22MkoR86CqTMioJwAaCbJgdNgTM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=b/pgQaVMAGcGkMB9ZTogcs9y7kAkhGwR5+VkWcotgC60IPf6u/sI8JU91UmFr5pQ1tB63Irc3K/6lC1s0uYO5M3ClFEWHz/8I12dcT8jJ2axNIsRM3134JA4cnPzjghuA7pcneD/FdoutOGFtkdTaWDX5Ri70gmXCldkFf6Fk60= Received: by 10.114.94.1 with SMTP id r1mr1538431wab.1195249011567; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:36:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.176.14 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:36:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6ae50c2d0711161336y34666fb1n90185c100178957e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:36:51 -0500 From: alexus To: "Steve Bertrand" In-Reply-To: <473E05ED.7080004@ibctech.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> <473E05ED.7080004@ibctech.ca> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:36:52 -0000 but then i'm going say route _ALL_ traffic for that, and i need to be able to get in through both interfaces, as if one ISP is down, i can access in through another... thats the whole point of this thing On Nov 16, 2007 4:04 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > alexus wrote: > > i dont see any difference as at the end i still get this > > > > 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 > > > > in my netstat -rn, and no its still doesn't work... > > This is not the point. > > You need a route via the gateway that 216 is connected to for the REMOTE > IP/network. Say for instance your 'home' connection is: > > 64.39.177.22, then you need a route like this: > > route add 64.39.177.22/32 $isp_gateway > > What you have: > > 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 > > ...says '206.112.241.24/29 should be routed to 216.112.241.25. That is > ALL it will route via that path. > > Steve > -- http://alexus.org/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 21:46:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EB116A418 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoschi@etain.frida.mouhaha.de) Received: from etain.frida.mouhaha.de (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E93C13C455 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hoschi@etain.frida.mouhaha.de) Received: from localhost (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) by etain.frida.mouhaha.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBAA14B9E76; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:46:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mouhaha.de Received: from etain.frida.mouhaha.de ([85.236.48.54]) by localhost (etain.frida.mouhaha.de [85.236.48.54]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fQ4R6q10z9IE; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:46:09 +0100 (CET) Received: by etain.frida.mouhaha.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D47B4B9E1A; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:46:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:46:09 +0100 From: Oliver Peter To: James Harrison Message-ID: <20071116214608.GA77232@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> References: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> <20071116104400.GG16621@nemesis.frida.mouhaha.de> <1195229996.4124.6.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1195229996.4124.6.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:46:15 -0000 --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:19:56AM -0700, James Harrison wrote: > > > ... > > > Any ideas? > >=20 > > An random idea: What scheduler are you using in your kernel > > configuration? Do you already use SCHED_ULE ? > >=20 >=20 > I built it according to defaults, so I've got the GENERIC kernel running > right now. As such, I don't know the answer to your question, but if you > tell me how to check I'll get back to you :) Since RELENG_7s GENERIC still comes with SCHED_4BSD I assume that you still have the old one. To be sure you can verify this by: % sysctl kern.sched.name In your case it should be: kern.sched.name: 4BSD To switch to the new you have to build a new kernel. Pretty good described here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Just be sure to replace options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler With options SCHED_ULE # ULE scheduler In my case it resolved some mouse and audio problems under X.Org. Don't know if evolution is affected, too, but you can give it a chance anyway. --=20 Oliver PETER, eMail: hoschi@mouhaha.de, ICQ# 113969174 "Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave." --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.3 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkc+D6AACgkQ6LH/IUVtaI+EEwCgr7oU6dfsI376EyZ+pODZhQbE VOMAoM2yYWtbvSV0syA0AdRQIN+HnnWc =xVK8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YZ5djTAD1cGYuMQK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 22:09:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A0816A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from todor.dragnev@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651C313C448 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from todor.dragnev@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so954978nfb for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:09:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=R90RXHEbGGIciZpKPjQyWTUNRCfS/3rvHlDAoHnjbmo=; b=kcB3y6Xgdk17ZZ4Jl1/rQWecqWjL0nnnMR4ckxMpssgVWtot//ugtHjO2GkZojGoJ/SwPBUMoQboCaDpiQa0+1h90C3cPQF9Ryto0rpfRkhf/UXoJS2Kg613jLZLTx5+Pn8lRUJNDAjaqe+AleGqjlf7KqUadmTlqEpOaWIQGzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=RHH1eqKZUS6MJ+vpwiQJD3HvWkDEnn6tFwEMRGXRhnBGfpKNvadg15iP79irbLsv4RCuGS+5fbqvQRNwVbghwlDXNns2g4eZ7NW7W8XjckZQtfLqpnvhuF2AH78f5suAPEKaxy1/qkniMTEADuV4OXgrp/5B8NhONhf7xE7T+UM= Received: by 10.86.25.17 with SMTP id 17mr2166253fgy.1195249514461; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.168.136? ( [84.43.140.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e20sm3499878fga.2007.11.16.13.45.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:45:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Todor Dragnev Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:45:09 +0200 To: alexus X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:09:55 -0000 Hi, you must use advanced routing, this is very easy on linux with iproute2 but freebsd is far away for now(maybe forever) and you must use pf or ipf for this situation. So, enable pf in rc.conf pf_enable="YES" Add this line to the end of pf.conf: pass out quick route-to (fxp1 $fxp1_gw) inet from $fxp1_ip to ! $fxp1_ip keep state Where $fxp1_gw must be your gateway on fxp1 interface and $fxp1_ip is your IP address on fxp1. Keep your default gateway via 192.168.1.1. With these settings you can access both 192.168.1.1 and $fxp1_ip from outside. Regards, Todor Dragnev On 16.11.2007, at 07:18, alexus wrote: > Hello, > > I have two NICs on my box, one (primary) connected to switch and have > private IP. that IP also have a static route on Cisco PIX for > accessing this box from outside. the other interface has public IP > that is connected to another switch, i configure both IPs through > /etc/rc.conf, but I can not for some reason access my box through that > public IP, no firewall rules would prevent me from doing so. here is > my output for netstat -rn > > alexus# netstat -rn > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > default 192.168.1.1 UGS 0 250 fxp0 > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 2 lo0 > 192.168.1 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 > 192.168.1.1 00:0d:29:09:90:61 UHLW 2 2 > fxp0 1171 > 192.168.1.250 00:16:cb:94:10:e9 UHLW 1 12 > fxp0 1169 > 216.112.241.24/29 link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 > > Internet6: > Destination Gateway Flags > Netif Expire > ::1 ::1 > UHL lo0 > fe80::%lo0/64 fe80::1%lo0 > U lo0 > fe80::1%lo0 link#4 > UHL lo0 > ff01:4::/32 fe80::1%lo0 > UC lo0 > ff02::%lo0/32 fe80::1%lo0 > UC lo0 > alexus# > > what am I missing? > > -- > http://alexus.org/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 22:27:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B914516A468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-1.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C7E13C45A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:27:47 -0800 Message-ID: <473E1962.4040908@riderway.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:27:46 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josh Paetzel References: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> <473DF9F4.8030502@u.washington.edu> <200711161453.45484.josh@tcbug.org> In-Reply-To: <200711161453.45484.josh@tcbug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Garrett Cooper , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , cuongvt Subject: Re: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:27:48 -0000 Josh Paetzel wrote: > Regardless, there's no real supported downgrade procedure. It's probably > possible, but you are in wizard territory. Its possible, not easy, even with mismatched kernels. make -k repeatedly seems to install enough stuff the first time that the second time its really close. Don't try it in production. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 22:38:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA43316A468 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datahead4@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3549F13C45D for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datahead4@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so393199hub for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:38:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=sCN/y50NMphMusbGhHQpQIzvR8t1857xogzP9W8bHis=; b=KyFelR7SGgY3XcDGqQzNPqT7VhXypFeDzYHyeF7VL0RkJjpzxdrl3NucxZdRFwQWSF9Hys2SAo5XC1K8q643ViNdV+Z26cw0rg2cizmMXNX/VykOoD+hzcX9EoYVIX7gukotQU1/F1V07TMWaTL03Wp0QJkDtxg9NYyNoDKvpo0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c09QNQdO0BFLVg0druB21npPcnZ7wiBW4iVCDpk1oY5mcOfqKlEHmlfqLRVT7tRlpMMrXeMgC6eKbJQLOdzXLC+JjGVBJHaWakn/EREDcbxNVEqfEylx8/lOtvjRthX5p46MWfEB6th1kAM2HRrHx3r1PRxK3GjcTnAlz9R/Rxs= Received: by 10.67.30.13 with SMTP id h13mr378935ugj.1195252693805; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.221.11 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:38:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:38:13 -0600 From: Matt To: freebsd-questions , freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> Cc: Subject: Re: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:38:16 -0000 On Nov 14, 2007 4:45 PM, James wrote: > Hi folks, > > first, I know the subject line is a goldmine for jokes, but I couldn't > think of a better way to phrase it. > > Ever since I moved to FreeBSD 7.0, the evolution mail client has become > ridiculously slow for me. It takes two or three minutes to start up, > right clicking on a folder takes several minutes to display a context > menu etc > > My install process was as follows: > > 1. backup my home directory from a FreeBSD 6.2 install > 2. Format the hard drive > 3. Install 7.0 beta 1.5 > 4. csup sources and install beta 2.0 > 5. pkg_add xorg, gnome etc -- evolution was slow as a dog from this > 6. portsnap fetch extract > 7. follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating gnome > > I tried cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution && make deinstall && make > reinstall, to see if something had simply gone wrong during the build, > but nothing changed. > > Any ideas? > > James I've also experienced this since moving to 7-CURRENT (and tracking through to the current 7.0-BETA2) and have been unable to figure out why. Startup takes between 30 and 40 seconds, during with the "evolution" process consumes 100% of one of the cores of the dual-core processor. After startup, various actions (including right-clicking on attachments) take approximately 10 seconds to complete the first time the action is done, this time with the "evolution-data-server" process consuming 100% of one core. Running ktrace against the evolution process during startup shows large amounts of apparently random information, but I don't have a pre-7 system to compare it to. I use SCHED_ULE and have had no other noticeable system slowdowns. All ports have been built from source with no extra settings in /etc/make.conf. $ cat /var/db/ports/evolution/options # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. # No user-servicable parts inside! # Options for evolution-2.12.1_3 _OPTIONS_READ=evolution-2.12.1_3 WITHOUT_PILOT=true WITHOUT_LDAP=true WITHOUT_SPAMASSASSIN=true From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:02:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A55016A49A for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcr@physics.utah.edu) Received: from nova.physics.utah.edu (nova.physics.utah.edu [128.110.200.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE5F13C45B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dcr@physics.utah.edu) Received: from fusion.physics.utah.edu (fusion.physics.utah.edu [128.110.200.144]) by nova.physics.utah.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lAGM5QwP024813 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:05:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (dcr@localhost) by fusion.physics.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA18035 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:05:26 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: fusion.physics.utah.edu: dcr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:05:26 -0700 (MST) From: Douglas Rodriguez To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (nova.physics.utah.edu [128.110.200.143]); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:05:27 -0700 (MST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.43 Subject: Failing Drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:02:15 -0000 I've been getting the following message repeating continuously: ad1:FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=1 LBA=216026367 g_vfs_done():ad1s1[READ(offset = 110605467648, length = 16384)]error=5 ad1:FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=40 LBA=216026367 g_vfs_done():ad1s1[READ(offset = 110605467648, length = 16384)]error=5 ad1:FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51 error=1 LBA=216026367 g_vfs_done():ad1s1[READ(offset = 110605467648, length = 16384)]error=5 .... The same thing repeats every so often. What does this mean? I've read other threads (Drives Dieing) about possibly shutting down dma or reinstalling the system, but is that the best solution to this kind of problem? Thanks. ~Doug From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:12:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EB916A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hexidigital@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90A913C455 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hexidigital@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id s27so481025ele for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:12:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=nbG0l7EtXnIg9XVYxHbefv+lKJwxOumwzrxV1F+BjcE=; b=h9luXT/DdE6Bqhlp+Kuv3iG8KGBu6OPcXSWHrDFOSZjg3uu2WMyKc9MIxGnnltGISeiMJ1poMZ/tG+Z5Ur6mKPWFPRpCRqJ3UXBPUONO46aE0byRMFA9BrUZtuEt5R7GjD5puGvEEdB379yL5+oP3CDdKYfjkxTLnwUMGKSBbAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=iHAEkBFMdnDP9VUvAM1UuvFV6Mk1veg5pLbeXYhM83nD4tQ0tzOROXBMRuZkas/JzBqjZTEO4jelb6oZZVeq3lcpUN9pNxKtK0gU4KfTlHmX6aRVBEn7aPit0ZjDDUi9EAcr04Wmzzg9cVZmKQXSi5HU7iXBKPUhHD1iTqgvXh0= Received: by 10.70.21.4 with SMTP id 4mr3910464wxu.1195253172757; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from hexidigital.org ( [24.229.62.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i35sm3911491wxd.2007.11.16.14.46.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:46:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gbarber by hexidigital.org with local (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1It5HC-0000go-BN for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:46:46 +0000 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:46:46 +0000 From: Glen Barber To: FreeBSD-Questions Message-ID: <20071116174646.GA2597@orion> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-Questions References: <689580000710211058u50f7e52fh13870bca1025c453@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <689580000710211058u50f7e52fh13870bca1025c453@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: broadcom network card problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:12:16 -0000 svetimas alien said: > Hello, > I have lenovo v200 laptop with boardcom network card but my FreeBSD 6.2 does > not detect it. I tryed loading win drivers, with kldload, converted with > ndisgen but always get kernel panic. pciconf -lv shows this: > > none4@pci5:0:0 class=0x020000 card=0x3c2c17aa chip=0x1713144e4 rev=0x02 > hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Broadcom corporation' > class = network > subclass ethernet > > How to load this? What is the full name of the driver? bcmwl5_sys ? If so, copy it into the /boot/kernel/ directory, and load it with `kldload bcmwl5_sys` (or add bcmwl5_sys_load="YES" to your /etc/rc.conf). > > I also have bce and bge kompiled in my kernel. > When this module is loaded, you will get a ndis0 device, not bce or bge. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:23:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0BD16A417 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schulra@earlham.edu) Received: from sipala.earlham.edu (sipala.earlham.edu [159.28.1.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB80513C45D for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schulra@earlham.edu) Received: from tdream.lly.earlham.edu (tdream.lly.earlham.edu [159.28.7.241]) by sipala.earlham.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAGN9IGe015883 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:09:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tdream.lly.earlham.edu (tdream.lly.earlham.edu [159.28.7.241]) by tdream.lly.earlham.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7908E308 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:10:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:10:02 -0500 (EST) From: Randy Schultz X-X-Sender: schulra@tdream.lly.earlham.edu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3a386af20711152327h7bb6dac9p656f949bf0709527@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <3eca10930711140740gb8c2b88v6a13795c41e3eafb@mail.gmail.com> <473B3C56.5020103@cederstrand.dk> <20071116175719.67457ce4@meijome.net> <3a386af20711152327h7bb6dac9p656f949bf0709527@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: jails and security [was: Jails and multicore boxes] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:23:25 -0000 On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Federico Lorenzi spaketh thusly: -}> > you trying to protect? If you're worrying about getting cracked and used -}> > as a spam bot, jails are no more secure than a non-jail system. -}> -}> Maybe some qualification is needed here. -}> -}> If your mail jail gets broken into, then it will still be used as a spambot. -}> -}> But your host (the machine in which your jails run in) wouldn't have been compromised, necessarily, by the fact that the jail got compromised. Having root on a jail > (if that's what we are talking about by 'compromised' ) shouldn't affect your host machine. Unless there is some other vulnerability that can be used, of course. -} -}Thats true indeed, however many people are saying that jails do not necessarily, -}make an environment more secure. I'm not really knowledable in that area, -}but they do add another layer to the proverbial onion. I use jails, but more -}for convenience then security, if i get a new (home) server box, I can just -}move some jails across with a simple tar and then scp, and have them -}work pretty much instantly. MHO. This depends on your definition of "secure". If you have a receiving MTA then you must allow inbound on port 25. If that MTA has a security hole that allows remote access/exploitation then it really doesn't matter a whole lot what you're running on/under/in/with. You're MTA will be hijacked. MHO - the beauty of jails is threefold. First, important parts of the jail can be mounted read-only. If you use the ezjail package then this is done for you. Set up a jail with ezjail and try to create a file in, say, /usr/include. Not even root(inside the jail) can do this. Second, it allows 1 piece of hardware to do multiple things, all separated. Using a slightly contrived example, let's say a company has a piece of hardware that has plenty of power to run authentication and mail. If you put these on the system, and the MTA has a security hole, everything is suspect. Now run each in a jail. Cracking in via the MTA only allows access to mail, not authentication. Third, the parent can monitor the jails. The parent is completely blocked off from all incoming traffic except ssh from an internal net. Somebody cracks into a jail via port 22 or 23(or really, any port). They gain root access and modify the logs such that no login shows up. You look at the ipf logs on the parent and see tons of traffic to/from a.b.c.d on port 22, with TCP bits set so you know there's a conversation going on there, yet no sign of login in the jail's logs. Just some random musings. -- Randy (schulra@earlham.edu) 765.983.1283 <*> Love with your heart, think with your head; not the other way around. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:35:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C369616A41B for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D5113C469 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAGNZmhx007845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:35:48 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from dzihan.cs.washington.edu (dzihan.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.96]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAGNZmFk025932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:35:48 -0800 Message-ID: <473E2954.6010608@u.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:35:48 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Philip M. Gollucci" References: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> <473DF9F4.8030502@u.washington.edu> <200711161453.45484.josh@tcbug.org> <473E1962.4040908@riderway.com> In-Reply-To: <473E1962.4040908@riderway.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.16.151709 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='BODY_SIZE_800_899 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Josh Paetzel , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , cuongvt Subject: Re: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:35:52 -0000 Philip M. Gollucci wrote: > Josh Paetzel wrote: > >> Regardless, there's no real supported downgrade procedure. It's probably >> possible, but you are in wizard territory. >> > Its possible, not easy, even with mismatched kernels. > make -k > > repeatedly seems to install enough stuff the first time that the second > time its really close. > > Don't try it in production. Actually, there isn't too much of a difference between 7.x and 8.x right now (in comparison to what there will be later on), so I don't see why make buildworld and buildkernel with their respective install targets wouldn't be feasible. You just might have some extra junk libraries or features sitting around your harddrive from 8.x that aren't present in 7.x, but not too many.. Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 16 23:45:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AB216A419 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3947413C47E for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:45:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItAsA-0008Lg-JA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:45:18 -0800 Message-ID: <13803821.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:45:18 -0800 (PST) From: cuongvt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <473E1962.4040908@riderway.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cuongvt@fpt.vn References: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> <473DF9F4.8030502@u.washington.edu> <200711161453.45484.josh@tcbug.org> <473E1962.4040908@riderway.com> Subject: Re: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:45:19 -0000 Philip M. Gollucci-9 wrote: > > Josh Paetzel wrote: >> Regardless, there's no real supported downgrade procedure. It's probably >> possible, but you are in wizard territory. > Its possible, not easy, even with mismatched kernels. > make -k > > repeatedly seems to install enough stuff the first time that the second > time its really close. > > Don't try it in production. > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) > o:703.549.2050x206 > Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. > http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com > 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF > > Work like you don't need the money, > love like you'll never get hurt, > and dance like nobody's watching. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I think no, here is mine: BATCH=yes X11BASE=/usr/local CPUTYPE=pentium4 CFLAGS= -O2 -pipe NO_PROFILE= true # Avoid compiling profiled libraries CFLAGS+=-DNO_MALLOC_EXTRAS # added by use.perl 2007-09-17 06:37:02 PERL_VER=5.8.8 PERL_VERSION=5.8.8 Anyway, I just want to know the reason why so that I can avoid from next time, I think it's difficult to down to 7.0 once you went to 8.0. Could anyone help me? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/I-went-to-8.0-current-accidently-%3A%28-tf4821358.html#a13803821 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 00:03:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F373D16A418; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (muon.bluestop.org [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920C513C43E; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:03:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.draftnet (cran1.demon.co.uk [80.177.26.208]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562B930114; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:03:16 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <473E2FAA.2050607@cran.org.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:02:50 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ivan Voras References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> <473DC14D.1060601@shopzeus.com> <9bbcef730711160829s186d0784g8546c2656f913c0f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730711160829s186d0784g8546c2656f913c0f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Laszlo Nagy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:03:18 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > On 16/11/2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote: >> Ivan Voras wrote: > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/vm-fileio.html >>> >> I read this too but I don't understand. Too difficult for me. >> >> So what is the answer? Do I need to set a sysctl or will FreeBSD use all >> available free memory for caching file data from disk? > > You don't need to change anything, it's the default state. So as long as the memory isn't shown as "Free" in top, any memory that isn't being used by the kernel or by applications is being used for cache/buffer? One reason why I had thought that FreeBSD didn't use all the memory for caching disk accesses was because I saw a different behaviour when decompressing large archives between Linux and FreeBSD: in Linux there's a massive burst of activity as the archive gets put straight into memory; then, once memory starts getting full it pauses for what seems a very long time as it flushes all the data to disk. FreeBSD doesn't seem to do that; it seems a lot smoother in that it writes to the disk a lot more regularly - is this likely to be because Linux has a higher limit on the number of dirty pages it can have in memory before it writes them out to disk? -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 00:05:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326D616A421 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-59.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-59.bluehost.com [69.89.20.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED14713C448 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:05:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 22456 invoked by uid 0); 17 Nov 2007 00:05:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 00:05:43 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1ItBBv-00073Y-28 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:05:43 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAH06Ht2082617 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:06:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lAH06HAh082616 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:06:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:06:16 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071117000616.GA82543@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <4738AEBF.4010109@u.washington.edu> <4738C145.2050601@chuckr.org> <20071112214240.5d3b048a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <4738FC8B.5000309@chuckr.org> <20071114230723.GD70122@demeter.hydra> <473CAD52.6060309@chuckr.org> <20071115221638.GC76155@demeter.hydra> <473D14DC.4070104@chuckr.org> <20071116151734.GB80515@demeter.hydra> <473DEB7D.3030508@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <473DEB7D.3030508@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Ports with GUI configs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:05:45 -0000 On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 02:11:57PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > > prominently display the actual meaning of the word being set. The only > reason to make the list binary is to force everyone to use the > (basically database technology) tool to manipulate the keywords, thus > stopping folks from misconstruing the meanings. That's my only reason > for that, and there are certainly other ways to go about it, so as long > as whatever is suggested requires folks to see the commonly accepted > definition when they set the list, I don't care how it's done. The list > could as easily be encrypted, I guess, that would also cause the same > work flow, in somewhat the same reasoning as we use for forcing folks to > use "vipw" to change the pasword list. I think "forcing" anyone to anything is a *bad idea*. Period. You're talking about placing arbitrary limits on what the user can see if he or she wants to understand what's going on "under the hood". With that kind of treatment, I would never have learned as much about FreeBSD as I know as quickly as I did. I, for one, would probably refuse to use such a system once I learned enough about the basics to want to know what it's doing. The moment I figured out it was designed specifically to obscure some aspect of its operation from the user, I'd look for something else to use instead. There are very good reasons for this -- reasons like security, curiosity, and just plain good manners. > > Please consider that we'll get another chance to argue this out when I > have the software ready, so we don't need to settle it now. I don't > want this to continue to pollute the -questions list. I'm rapidly running out of enthusiasm for bothering to look at it once it's done. Systems I can't study are systems I don't like, generally. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Ben Franklin: "As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of others we should be glad of an Opportunity to serve others by any Invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously." 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What does this mean? I've read > other threads (Drives Dieing) about possibly shutting down dma or > reinstalling the system, but is that the best solution to this kind of > problem? Backup, backup, backup ;-) You'll need a Real Expert(tm) to help on the ILLEGAL_LENGTH error, but I've seen UNCORRECTABLE plenty. Keep in mind that it may cost some time and energy to find out; apart from a bad disk, could be a bad disk *controller*. I bought two new HDD's recently because of similar problems, but all of them are now working fine on a new motherboard :-/ Sorry no help here :-/ Kevin Kinsey -- Recursion: n. See Recursion. -- Random Shack Data Processing Dictionary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 01:08:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19AC16A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bram@diomedia.be) Received: from dike.telenet-ops.be (dike.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7958013C442 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bram@diomedia.be) Received: from adicia.telenet-ops.be (adicia.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.56]) by dike.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2619E378174 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:50:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with SMTP id 342C4230099; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.3.111] (d5152C2D6.access.telenet.be [81.82.194.214]) by adicia.telenet-ops.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14AD2300C0; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:50:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <473E10CB.6030001@diomedia.be> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:51:07 +0000 From: Bram Van Steenlandt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071029) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alexus , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6ae50c2d0711152118h2f2a9989q2b39eba077154041@mail.gmail.com> <20071116063832.GB4164@saraswathy.susmita.org> <473DA109.6020707@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711160850x14df83c8nf278d995936349a7@mail.gmail.com> <473DCE68.6010509@ibctech.ca> <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6ae50c2d0711161223n4d219ce1l48636bbfe5d2f08c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: multihome network X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:08:20 -0000 alexus wrote: > i dont see any difference as at the end i still get this > > 216.112.241.24/29 216.112.241.25 UGS 0 0 fxp1 > > in my netstat -rn, and no its still doesn't work... > > > > On Nov 16, 2007 12:07 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> alexus wrote: >> >>> my private IP that eventually resolves to public IP through PIX is >>> different then coming from my other public IP that assigned on my fxp1 >>> that comes from another ISP, the fxp1 IP already configured this way >>> so it pass everything to my box >>> >>> what i've tried is adding route on my box >>> >>> route add 216.112.241.24 216.112.241.25 255.255.255.248 >>> >> Wait a minute...this doesn't look right... >> >> Try this: >> >> # route add $homeIP/$netmask $gateway >> >> Where: >> >> - if you have a static IP at 'home', $netmask should be /32, otherwise, >> you'll need to shorten the prefix (such like /24) This will depend on >> your 'home' Internet provider setup >> >> - $gateway is the next hop upstream on the interface that has >> 216.112.241.x address on it. >> >> Steve >> >> > > > > I'm kind of new to freebsd so forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought this was not possible with freebsd in a simple way. On linux you can create a default route for each interface thus packet get routed properly, on freebsd you can only have one default route (I think) so this is not really possible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 01:22:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD82B16A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E1713C44B for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from athena.dfwlp.com (athena.dfwlp.com [192.168.125.82]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAH1Lnbe063107 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:21:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) From: Jonathan Horne To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:21:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711161921.59936.freebsd@dfwlp.com> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Subject: very poor NFS performance from a beta3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:22:08 -0000 i updated my workstatino to beta3, and then got on a 6.2-p8 machine and mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj from the beta3. tried to installkernel, but it moved as painful pace. would get to the point where it moves kernel to kernel.old, and would just pause for a long time. file transfer showed about 104k. i took this same 6.2-p8 box, and mounted src and obj from my main 6.2 build server, and reinstalled the 6.2-p8 kernel, and speed was as expected. is there anywhere i can being looking to troubleshoot this problem (as to why the 7.0b3 would serve NFS so slowly)? -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 01:26:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBD216A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:26:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEA913C4AC for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:26:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-01.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAH1Q5wx014969 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:26:08 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:26:02 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200711141615.37380.freysman@comcast.net> <200711142107.27718.freysman@comcast.net> <200711151007.03334.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200711151007.03334.wundram@beenic.net> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711161926.04085.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: python25 core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:26:12 -0000 On Thursday 15 November 2007 03:07:03 am Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: > This seems like a problem in qt4 (I don't think the problem is in PyQt), > simply try reinstalling that, too (completely; qt4 is split into several > ports and "pkg_info | grep qt4" is your friend here). A complete rebuild of qt4-* did not solve the problem, however, a complete rebuild of py25-qt4* solved everything. (Except the Gtk problems, naturally) Apparently there was something in the pre-built packages that didn't agree with my machine. I'm hoping that a rebuild of all dependencies for gramps will solve the problems there as well. David -- If this message was not entertaining, write your congressman. 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Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:02:52 -0000 On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:51:33PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > > > I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the > > FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu > > installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for > > FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for > > "udf" and "cd9660"? > > > > This is the old and current fstable: > > > ># DVD drive (top) > >/dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 > ># CD-burner (bottom) > >/dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > This works for me (6.3-PRERELEASE): > > /dev/acd1 /dvd cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > ^^^^ > Obviously that would be acd0 in your case. > > HTH. > Hopefully! I bought TWO burners, tho. My acd0 is a Pioneer, the acd1 is a cheaper "Lite On" (IIRC). So, using your schema: would I put /dev/acd0 /dvd cd9660 /media/cdroms0 ro,noauto 0 0 and /dev/acd1 /dvd cd9660 /media/cdroms1 ro,noauto 0 0 or is this at least *close*! gary > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 03:19:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A176B16A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6EB13C455 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAH2q1JM071811; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:52:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:51:33 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> Message-ID: <20071116214807.Y84300@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:19:43 -0000 On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the > FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu > installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for > FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for > "udf" and "cd9660"? > > This is the old and current fstable: > > # DVD drive (top) > /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 > # CD-burner (bottom) > /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 This works for me (6.3-PRERELEASE): /dev/acd1 /dvd cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 ^^^^ Obviously that would be acd0 in your case. HTH. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 03:21:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B581B16A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4259C13C447 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DfF01Y00517dt5G0500N00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:21:28 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([98.199.18.87]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DfMS1Y0011sjBEi0300000; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:21:28 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tleq5RB186wA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=GD-cEPMo0mkHU0apCskA:9 a=1E0u7f57FtdkdKqam3QA:7 a=J2ZmgRe_AO3OeoOqzYBvgu9wfZkA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:21:24 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:21:29 -0000 On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: > I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the > FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu > installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for > FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for > "udf" and "cd9660"? > > This is the old and current fstable: > > > # DVD drive (top) > /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 > # CD-burner (bottom) > /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want to make it rw rather than ro. This chapter of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html and the one that follows are worth a careful reading. David -- Please turn off all cellphones and tricorders. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 03:22:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628E316A41A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129F713C447 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:21:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAH3LvO7071886; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:21:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:21:29 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20071117030242.GB92063@thought.org> Message-ID: <20071116221509.N84300@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <20071116214807.Y84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117030242.GB92063@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:22:00 -0000 On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:51:33PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: >> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the >>> FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu >>> installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for >>> FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for >>> "udf" and "cd9660"? >>> >>> This is the old and current fstable: >>> >>> # DVD drive (top) >>> /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 >>> # CD-burner (bottom) >>> /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >> >> This works for me (6.3-PRERELEASE): >> >> /dev/acd1 /dvd cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >> ^^^^ >> Obviously that would be acd0 in your case. >> >> HTH. > > Hopefully! I bought TWO burners, tho. My acd0 is a Pioneer, > the acd1 is a cheaper "Lite On" (IIRC). > > So, using your schema: would I put > > /dev/acd0 /dvd cd9660 /media/cdroms0 ro,noauto 0 0 > > and > /dev/acd1 /dvd cd9660 /media/cdroms1 ro,noauto 0 0 > > > or is this at least *close*! Close, but you were actually closer the first time. I'm assuming you want these discs to appear at /media/cdroms[0|1], whereas I'm mounting my DVD drive at /dvd and my CD drive at /cdrom. This is what I would do, given your mountpoints and devices: /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms0 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ device mountpoint filesystem type See man fstab. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 03:25:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAEB16A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A3213C46A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:25:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (tripel [192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAH3OwcV071905; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:24:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:24:30 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: David J Brooks In-Reply-To: <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:25:10 -0000 On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David J Brooks wrote: > On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: >> I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the >> FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu >> installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for >> FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for >> "udf" and "cd9660"? >> >> This is the old and current fstable: >> >> >> # DVD drive (top) >> /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 >> # CD-burner (bottom) >> /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want > to make it rw rather than ro. Good point! Although my CD burner burns CDs just fine with either cdrecord or burncd, even with ro in its fstab line. > This chapter of the handbook: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > and the one that follows are worth a careful reading. True dat. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 04:50:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261CB16A41A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:50:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9472013C447 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAH4oYAB093227; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:50:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lAH4oXXX093226; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:50:33 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , David J Brooks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 04:50:44 -0000 On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:30PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David J Brooks wrote: > > >On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: > >> I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the > >> FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu > >> installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for > >> FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for > >> "udf" and "cd9660"? > >> > >> This is the old and current fstable: > >> > >> > >># DVD drive (top) > >>/dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 > >># CD-burner (bottom) > >>/dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > > >cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want > >to make it rw rather than ro. > > Good point! Although my CD burner burns CDs just fine with either > cdrecord or burncd, even with ro in its fstab line. > > >This chapter of the handbook: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > > >and the one that follows are worth a careful reading. > I think I have this page bookmarked; can't find it. I'll try "rw" and "ro". Can either you or David explain why I get a popup error: Can't mount volume. [?] When I clicked on the Details, it says: mount_cd9660: /dev/acd1: Operation not permitted I click on "System" (upper left) -> Preferences -> "Removable Drives and Media Prederences" and select every peermissions box. Nothing. (I'm using a data disk, not audio.) Ideas? > True dat. > > -- > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 05:00:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B022D16A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from mail.cluebytwelve.org (clueby12.org [198.186.190.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3093913C455 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from clarkjp@charter.net) Received: from localdomain.local (24-158-189-217.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com [24.158.189.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.cluebytwelve.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314D127126 for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:34:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by localdomain.local (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C50CDB8A0; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:34:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:34:26 -0600 From: "J. Porter Clark" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071117043426.GA71265@auricle.charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/porterclark/ User-Agent: mutt-ng/devel-r804 (FreeBSD) Subject: Making mergemaster skip certain files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:00:10 -0000 Is there any way to keep certain files out of the reach of mergemaster? I understand the need for carefully merging the old and the new, but I really shouldn't ever have to for files like these: /etc/aliases /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.allow /etc/manpath.config ... and many others. Mergemaster has so many options that I'm fairly certain that there must be some way to do this. -- J. Porter Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 05:10:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB4716A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yeef.cn@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55FDF13C43E for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:10:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yeef.cn@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so416352hub for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:10:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=PNlf5MnOf3n3L+QKRyq3cpV40UKCMRLbJQepPq6N2fo=; b=J3wZz/+mqfO/KVpM3IFP0PNpy7+suBAYcgk1HpWNFmW8r/R7HT9ALrnR/Xrl4+p7et6a6xaq+J6jYUj9R/UowBDFLRwy6+Ko0PYC4c//4UZJJe8Wvmn5vnb119k6yKjfMm8TNLESjfKmolgPyQesTbdkUchBSoB6BEe7M1s34g8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Prt0RiGNPq0AEeTHrovzoyDVOTao7DMDvMMzr1L79LW1X3YmnPf4jOPzvlquq/xLFvYkbZChd4BDKJeQeGG1/CQeEvhTrusbO8YTVEVa3vRGu5nPM+GoOap3vzbo4p4GQCf1GmTGurdIhRzYaiqNOeM0VY/Ykhe793pYnb8XuGw= Received: by 10.82.107.15 with SMTP id f15mr7043784buc.1195275365484; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:56:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.154.17 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:56:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:56:05 +0800 From: Yeef To: "Gary Kline" In-Reply-To: <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> Cc: David J Brooks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:10:19 -0000 this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 you should use root mount it. On Nov 17, 2007 12:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:30PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David J Brooks wrote: > > > > >On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: > > >> I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the > > >> FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu > > >> installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for > > >> FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for > > >> "udf" and "cd9660"? > > >> > > >> This is the old and current fstable: > > >> > > >> > > >># DVD drive (top) > > >>/dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 > > >># CD-burner (bottom) > > >>/dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > > > > >cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want > > >to make it rw rather than ro. > > > > Good point! Although my CD burner burns CDs just fine with either > > cdrecord or burncd, even with ro in its fstab line. > > > > >This chapter of the handbook: > > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html > > > > > >and the one that follows are worth a careful reading. > > > > > I think I have this page bookmarked; can't find it. I'll try > "rw" and "ro". Can either you or David explain why I get a > popup error: Can't mount volume. [?] When I clicked on the > Details, it says: > > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd1: Operation not permitted > > I click on "System" (upper left) -> Preferences -> > "Removable Drives and Media Prederences" and select every > peermissions box. Nothing. (I'm using a data disk, not > audio.) > > Ideas? > > > > > True dat. > > > > -- > > Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org > > ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- new city new thoughts new men please choose the freesoftware to:yeef.cn@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 05:28:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B03716A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6084713C457 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-03.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lAH5Rr1N004916; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:27:58 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: Gary Kline Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:27:51 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> X-Face: =?utf-8?q?iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAIVBMVEX+7+6BM0I?= =?utf-8?q?yMg7+5f=0A=09rivGf+mZn////d5ucyM0Jjm2vOMzPtzkgwAAAAB3RJTUUHsQw?= =?utf-8?q?fFzs7RBhzUQAAAhJJREFU=0A=09OI1tk89q20AQxmWIY8htFwfLumkukR6gDxDY?= =?utf-8?q?IpJTVAg0PunQ7F4dkLTYR0GodCvCjazeFH=0A=09oo+5Sdlf/tWp6DJObHzDff7M?= =?utf-8?q?rhh5DcCufwsWovg1fS9G/x+wzE83wH6g8L/FAzPulV3kIL=0A=09rLv5ikK15DyF?= =?utf-8?q?3ASKgE8CCHL+Rn8ZIFGEKI+SIsw8C3ClmFKdT32l4M4E3fTmLyM+8dQ/sC=0A?= =?utf-8?q?=09ri6PHpq9dRQsAGmyVbjr2O+EVgj3u7YRH701EAsA3O23bDPA3erZUI8MtKa2?= =?utf-8?q?gnBkgWnQ/h=0A=09WIPQ2m6ilKKzTJ0BISceupveK4rrMivSaNGpEiGh8PMEEpmyNVr?= =?utf-8?q?GIMVh2L6CRakE3QwIhL=0A=09kBUsZyQXDxxIWGH0HK8pQ50Rc8D+KeCriT4C7Y4?= =?utf-8?q?+fTChdYHKV1qwmLsvvPRuBR0fDaAL1B=0A=09d77AqTqzlX6MlVv42gecAUFc9N?= =?utf-8?q?fhKTU24CPaGx8CvipRAY0PAI+xwL0ERuivLIJ8AG6gLA=0A=09EugLVywa9PyzU?= =?utf-8?q?ATjuthxqvOJVb1OEACNKhuCFy/AdrvGtQmEe7j7YOyjI8OdkDkbXbaltV=0A=09so?= =?utf-8?q?BKXh+ATB9KqEodufgOUDXLHsjIGW3Yi84X2Ei0KNdokD2nreNcbdsd0I1f4ENX?= =?utf-8?q?yOfpFX=0A=09vQFVU/rZDJt1BrTJbSkTGmm142iWeyvttPNZFZI3fmkhhvapgffR?= =?utf-8?q?wC8yRocj4AK/y5MM//=0A=09A2fdrlbSnOlbAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711162327.52421.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:28:24 -0000 On Friday 16 November 2007 10:50:33 pm you wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:30PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David J Brooks wrote: > > >On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: > > >> I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the > > >> FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu > > >> installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for > > >> FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for > > >> "udf" and "cd9660"? > > >> > > >> This is the old and current fstable: > > >> > > >> > > >># DVD drive (top) > > >>/dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 > > >> 0 # CD-burner (bottom) > > >>/dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 > > >> 0 > > > > > >cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want > > >to make it rw rather than ro. > > > > Good point! Although my CD burner burns CDs just fine with either > > cdrecord or burncd, even with ro in its fstab line. > > > > >This chapter of the handbook: > > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.h > > >tml > > > > > >and the one that follows are worth a careful reading. > > I think I have this page bookmarked; can't find it. I'll try > "rw" and "ro". Can either you or David explain why I get a > popup error: Can't mount volume. [?] When I clicked on the > Details, it says: > > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd1: Operation not permitted > > I click on "System" (upper left) -> Preferences -> > "Removable Drives and Media Prederences" and select every > peermissions box. Nothing. (I'm using a data disk, not > audio.) > > Ideas? This page of info from K3B may shed some light on the problem for you: Notes for FreeBSD 5.x and onwards users: 1. The FreeBSD k3b port supports SCSI drives only. If you have IDE CD or DVD drives, use them through the cam system. See Chapter 12.5.9 of the handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/creating-cds.html#ATAPICAM) 2. Your CD and DVD drives must have a mount point in /etc/fstab. They have to be accessed through their atapicam device if possible. I.e. the drives have to be adressed by e.g. /dev/cd0 instead of /dev/acd0. 3. k3b has to be started from a root console, which is not recommended. Alternatively do ALL of the following: 3a. set the suid flag on cdrecord and cdrdao. The 'Notes' chapter of 'man cdrecord' discusses this. 3b. - For every user who should be able to use k3b and for every CD or DVD device add a directory in the users home directory. These directories must be owned by the corresponding user. For each such directory add a line in /etc/fstab (see remark 2), like: /dev/cd0c /usr/home/XXX/cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto,nodev,nosuid 0 0 Furthermore allow user mounts as described in topic 9.22 of the FAQ: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT To make the chmod's to /dev/cdX permanent, do the following: * add 'devd_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf * add a 'perm cdX 666' to /etc/devfs.conf for each cd/dvd device. X is the device number. If you prefer allow access for a group only, add a 'perm cdX 660' instead, followed by an 'own cdX root:XXX' where XXX is the group name. Alternatively (especially if you are using hot plug capable CD or DVD drives) you could add an 'add path 'cd*' mode 666' or an 'add path 'cd*' mode 660 group XXX' to your /etc/devfs.rules under '[system=10]'. To enable it, add a 'devfs_system_ruleset="system"' to your /etc/rc.conf. - or just give mount and umount the suid flag, which is a security leak. 3c. Every user who should be able to use k3b must have read and write access to all pass through devices connected with CD and DVD drives and to the /dev/xpt0 device. Run 'camcontrol devlist' to identify those devices (seek string 'passX' at the end of each line and modify the rights of /dev/passX). Note, that this is a security leak as well but that there is no alternative! To make this changes permanent, add 'devd_enable="YES"' to /etc/rc.conf as described above. Furthermore add a 'perm passX 666' for each pass device and a 'perm xpt0 666'. If you prefer to bind the access rights to a group, use the own command as described above. If you prefer to set this rights dynamically, add a line 'add path 'pass*' ...' to your /etc/devfs.rules as described above. 4. Check, that DMA is activated for atapi devices: 'sysctl hw.ata.atapi_dma' If not, set it to 1 and put a 'hw.ata.atapi_dma=1' into /boot/loader.conf. 5. Create a directory on a partition, which has enough disk space to hold a CDs or DVDs content (usually below /usr). Enter this directory in Settings-> Configure K3b...->Misc. 6. If you experience problems while burning CDs, try to set the cdrdao driver manually. To do so choose Settings->Configure K3b...->Devices. Below the CD recorder click on the string "auto" behind "Cdrdao driver:" For most of the recent drives "generic-mmc" or "generic-mmc-raw" should work. See http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/drives.html. To read this instructions again, type 'make showinfo' in the k3b port directory -- This message coming soon to an illegal DVD. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 08:47:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6CD16A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:47:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4049313C448 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:47:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from LoN_Kamikaze@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Nov 2007 08:46:52 -0000 Received: from nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (EHLO mobileKamikaze.norad) [129.13.72.169] by mail.gmx.net (mp045) with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 09:46:52 +0100 X-Authenticated: #5465401 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18RWoZYi8ERSq8i0Eo+Pvxk3SAtcVC9M2Plv/Kg3c cC9a2E0jqYI2Km Message-ID: <473EAA7B.8000500@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:46:51 +0100 From: "[LoN]Kamikaze" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071101) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David J Brooks References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:47:53 -0000 David J Brooks wrote: > On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: >> I've googled aroound, and can't be sure what to add in the >> FStype column to get my DCD/CDROM burners to work. Ubuntu >> installed ny 2005 burner automagically. Nothing like that for >> FreeBSD, so can anybody clue me in what I substitute for >> "udf" and "cd9660"? >> >> This is the old and current fstable: >> >> >> # DVD drive (top) >> /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 >> # CD-burner (bottom) >> /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > > cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want to make > it rw rather than ro. As far as I know it's not possible to write a CD/DVD by copying stuff to the mount. cd9660 are always read-only. CD/DVD burning always goes right through the device /dev/acd0 or the CAM interface /dev/cd0. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 08:55:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AFB716A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C453B13C447 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so4859383pyb for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:55:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=0AjDk0Ek3fCSaAdedR2WjXAavb6BjWOBgTYtps/qbzE=; b=l2kr+vurc1vgbsAHPtxHOsGDefRxDVK/mI4QJqSNsJ0mUcrDdtSmCVH7mwukfX4yIOtcQFmtEoyIAZzb6Mv8HTyfuSqt3Vsl6er96VAQ/dslad+uC8ck+80uhZl+YROZZmP3u2gvBOZN2bXKV0ZdYKLXfLU/k4wc4PAKiY1wAJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KvDjUaU/lfU/ZHKLmcs09p5LKdQXGwKoJmQOKQOYK6J7OOj0ODx5mf9lopS/z84DiopB65CLMu9NEjlLOx7pc4M/E+5M0dAXQUh9IHUAuvKYjhVxJSF+S5ywlCx3yG297kktyalB+VptKa1JUNGu46AzVJn9rLnHliiltkiJ/dY= Received: by 10.35.32.3 with SMTP id k3mr3279157pyj.1195289735192; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f78sm9066582pyh.2007.11.17.00.55.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:55:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:55:38 -0600 To: Yeef X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:55:37 -0000 On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Yeef wrote: > this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE > > /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 > 0 > > you should use root mount it. Or set vfs.usermount to 1, if I remember right. I can't recall what's the proper method for setting it at boot, rc.conf or loader.conf. The default is 0, which is what I have it set to, more to annoy me than security(personal server behind a buggy router/firewall). I have a dvd-rw and cd-rw in the same box, and I haven't recalled any problems with access(except from dvd speed which I'm hoping for an answer or fix for) or writing. > On Nov 17, 2007 12:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:30PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: >> >> I think I have this page bookmarked; can't find it. I'll try >> "rw" and "ro". Can either you or David explain why I get a >> popup error: Can't mount volume. [?] When I clicked on the >> Details, it says: >> >> mount_cd9660: /dev/acd1: Operation not permitted >> >> I click on "System" (upper left) -> Preferences -> >> "Removable Drives and Media Prederences" and select every >> peermissions box. Nothing. (I'm using a data disk, not >> audio.) >> >> Ideas? >> >> >> >>> True dat. >>> >>> -- >>> Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org >>> ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] >> >> -- >> Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix >> http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > new city new thoughts new men > please choose the freesoftware > to:yeef.cn@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 09:29:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F118516A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24DF13C455 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so956799rvb for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:29:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=19bX9RgPCRlMKBwSlEEINJbnAxqOFCyq9jnu5ln9ON4=; b=nwtFlb/lua1CF7sH4zxWm5AvJM/OSvBGuVFH9XeIHHYtc3O6NufqOr9vaAL51mi7DuLZZ0QM+J/47pKdLX4bvVTQEPaxx7t4wOzXX/6N+jMus/WUqSdE+CL5kcGeqmLfCUWAPjpm2MdVbNFpjWyUOmpymLdLB9TMQpQe5B4CuLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VOyWeQPCO8YQ+x5oQbnlcNBnwD9TbeJwpc5MvKMHCYX+9FIGMp/rqIH0yq4hwdN4mrI6NhHaztpgk4dE4ddS2eTSsgkyRr4+ga3i223AGaAeIu3fF8zbfygE6AXZEN6lT1hprCbRmzKYquIVVbonXu7H9l/GMBHijZy4vCDsju4= Received: by 10.141.132.8 with SMTP id j8mr1094689rvn.1195291758698; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.211.5 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:29:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9bbcef730711170129t5af29c81u6442e1d6ba8c8b47@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:29:18 +0100 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "Bruce Cran" In-Reply-To: <473E2FAA.2050607@cran.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <473C7C0A.4060708@shopzeus.com> <20071115182220.E60452@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <473CAF70.1090006@cran.org.uk> <473DC14D.1060601@shopzeus.com> <9bbcef730711160829s186d0784g8546c2656f913c0f@mail.gmail.com> <473E2FAA.2050607@cran.org.uk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 102918cd1d533f4b Cc: Laszlo Nagy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set maximum disk cache size? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:29:29 -0000 On 17/11/2007, Bruce Cran wrote: > Ivan Voras wrote: > > On 16/11/2007, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > >> Ivan Voras wrote: > > > >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/vm-fileio.html > >>> > >> I read this too but I don't understand. Too difficult for me. > >> > >> So what is the answer? Do I need to set a sysctl or will FreeBSD use all > >> available free memory for caching file data from disk? > > > > You don't need to change anything, it's the default state. > > So as long as the memory isn't shown as "Free" in top, any memory that > isn't being used by the kernel or by applications is being used for > cache/buffer? Yes. > One reason why I had thought that FreeBSD didn't use all > the memory for caching disk accesses was because I saw a different > behaviour when decompressing large archives between Linux and FreeBSD: > in Linux there's a massive burst of activity as the archive gets put > straight into memory; then, once memory starts getting full it pauses > for what seems a very long time as it flushes all the data to disk. > FreeBSD doesn't seem to do that; it seems a lot smoother in that it > writes to the disk a lot more regularly - is this likely to be because > Linux has a higher limit on the number of dirty pages it can have in > memory before it writes them out to disk? Yes. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 09:52:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB8916A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603FA13C469 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAH9qWcP009312; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:52:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D709B8F7; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:52:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:52:32 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "J. Porter Clark" Message-ID: <20071117095232.GA27531@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: "J. Porter Clark" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071117043426.GA71265@auricle.charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071117043426.GA71265@auricle.charter.net> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making mergemaster skip certain files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:52:53 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:34:26PM -0600, J. Porter Clark wrote: > Is there any way to keep certain files out of the reach of > mergemaster? I understand the need for carefully merging the > old and the new, but I really shouldn't ever have to for files > like these: >=20 > /etc/aliases > /etc/hosts > /etc/hosts.allow > /etc/manpath.config > ... and many others. Set the system immutable and undeletable flags (as root); chflags schg,sunlnk /etc/aliases /etc/hosts /etc/hosts.allow \ /etc/manpath.config=20 > Mergemaster has so many options that I'm fairly certain that > there must be some way to do this. There is an option you can set in /etc/mergemaster.rc to ignore /etc/motd, and the -P option to preserve replaced files. Of course you can always hack it to ignore some files. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHPrngEnfvsMMhpyURAhSKAJ49xrsfueAwfdYgqjDjtwmJBZojLwCgpBB3 Nhb9tL3lPDiaENHz45ewyTw= =ThhD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 10:01:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE40316A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C91113C45B for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 35746 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Nov 2007 10:01:06 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MwSYc8t+aT0H+m18isEhC5QDMUQ2Q+++gl48vDS3iOrxcz4f7hjZmz7kPJY3JM3lyeoMko5AlPoKSvvXl4NKZC+ydiGAaUx2RtkT5k1IbZ2FYmsA0Bh5KVVK3BoRPjOAevMk1P8u2AAKM+m7XHLD0MSLxGV0QMCUH8i+AkWtOWM=; X-YMail-OSG: SKnah28VM1maVFZTsCFl0v._k09X1MZMP5Ok8S.xicU8eRYDS35xqsFgufN1RC5QDvD8.amt4Td.EkKmAT6HROcFmRqw.AmTPhTufWFm5R.U292jWPco81pJ_xkCrw0p5ZlgZEB.NXj1WMKxYZ3gJ10fiQ-- Received: from [195.241.94.180] by web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:06 PST Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:01:06 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: cokane@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <473B5E77.1020309@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <625884.33925.qm@web51106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Toni Schmidbauer , freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg impossible problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:01:16 -0000 Coleman Kane wrote: Dino Vliet wrote: > Toni Schmidbauer wrote: At Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:43:11 -0700 (PDT), > Dino Vliet wrote: > >> from time to time, Xorg crashes and won't restart (especially when I'm using firefox) and I have found firefox.core, gnash.core and metacity.core files in my home directory afterwards >> > > i actually have the same problems, but i'm using the nv driver (quadro > fx 560). i think this is somehow related to xorg and > gnash/firefox. can you try to disable the gnash plugin in firefox? i'm > not completely sure but xorg seems to be more stable since then. > > toni > What version of pixman do you have installed? I experienced the same problems under pixman 0.9.5, and found that they are fixed in 0.9.6. FreeBSD has since updated the related port to match the new version. In my case, evince and swfdec were causing the crashing pretty reliably. I originally attributed the problem to swfdec, but after some GDBing, I found that it was happening in pixman. PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117854 -- Coleman Kane Hi there, I've checked what I'm using and it is: pkg_info | grep pixman pixman-0.9.6 Low-level pixel manipulation library So I'm already using this version while experiencing those problems. I'm so glad I removed everything because now my workstation is stable again and that's a huge relief for me. Brgds Dino --------------------------------- Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 10:30:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAAC16A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:30:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.schuller@infidyne.com) Received: from smtp.infidyne.com (ds9.infidyne.com [88.80.6.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD06813C448 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:30:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter.schuller@infidyne.com) Received: from c-5416e555.03-51-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (c-5416e555.03-51-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se [85.229.22.84]) by smtp.infidyne.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F16728CC for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:14:20 +0100 (CET) From: Peter Schuller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:15:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1322385.lVyvA3lGPi"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200711171116.06705.peter.schuller@infidyne.com> Subject: sysutils/etcmerge vs mergemaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:30:49 -0000 --nextPart1322385.lVyvA3lGPi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello, etcmerge, with three-way merging, has been available for a while, but the m= an=20 page still warns of it not being extensively tested, and of course=20 mergermaster still seems to be the officially supported tool. In spite of this, etcmerge is attractive since, to be honest, manually=20 saying "yes update" to a bunch of files that mostly have only CVS revision= =20 changes is a waste of time. (In addition even files with local changes woul= d=20 be easier to handle with etcmerge) Given the obvious benefit to etcmerge's fundamental algorithm I have to won= der=20 why it does not seem to be more wide spread in use. Are there problems with= =20 it that I don't know about? How many people use it in production? Are there= =20 advantages to mergemaster that causes mergemaster to even be preferred over= =20 etcmerge as the default tool in base? =2D-=20 / Peter Schuller PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrieval: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org --nextPart1322385.lVyvA3lGPi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHPr9mDNor2+l1i30RAk98AJ43N6xHhg74aJLQfYV1W/Q+lbRmGQCgh7eD qcznl3f2VlLMXIfNO8RW26g= =cCRd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1322385.lVyvA3lGPi-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 10:58:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEFB16A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7FA13C50A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:58:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes Received: from 129.219-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.245.219.129]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2007 11:58:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:55:02 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071117105502.GA13903@mail.pcextreme.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: OpenEXR portupgrade failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:58:28 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to portupgrade my system and the only ones left are kde and OpenEXR. Apparently OpenEXR needs to be done as dependency for kde. But my portupgrade -R OpenEXR fail. Following is the error message, how can I solve this? /usr/bin/ld: warning: libIlmThread.so.4, needed by /usr/local/lib/libIlmImf.so, may conflict with libIlmThread.so.6 generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x5da): In function `writeGZ2(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int, Imath::Box > const&)': : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x604): In function `writeGZ2(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int, Imath::Box > const&)': : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x797): In function `writeGZ1(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int)': : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x7c1): In function `writeGZ1(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int)': : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' generalInterfaceTiledExamples.o(.text+0x28c): In function `writeTiled1(char const*, Imf::Array2D&, int, int, int, int)': : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' generalInterfaceTiledExamples.o(.text+0x2b6): more undefined references to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' follow gmake[1]: *** [imfexamples] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR/work/openexr-1.6.0/IlmImfExamples' gmake: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR. ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa /tmp/portupgrade.1076.1 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade UPGRADE_PORT=OpenEXR-1.4.0 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.4.0 make ** Fix the problem and try again. ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) ! graphics/OpenEXR (OpenEXR-1.4.0) (linker error) ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed Many thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 11:05:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CBD16A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (ipv6.darklight.org.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:84::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2EC13C4E3 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from darklight.org.ru (yuri@darklight.org.ru [IPv6:::1]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAHB4rIh093093; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:04:53 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by darklight.org.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAHB3r0f093090; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:03:53 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.org.ru: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f From: Yuri Pankov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:03:53 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20071117105502.GA13903@mail.pcextreme.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071117105502.GA13903@mail.pcextreme.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200711171403.53715.yuri.pankov@gmail.com> Cc: "Alain G. Fabry" Subject: Re: OpenEXR portupgrade failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:05:17 -0000 On Saturday 17 November 2007 13:55:02 Alain G. Fabry wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to portupgrade my system and the only ones left are kde and > OpenEXR. Apparently OpenEXR needs to be done as dependency for kde. But my > portupgrade -R OpenEXR fail. > > Following is the error message, how can I solve this? > > /usr/bin/ld: warning: libIlmThread.so.4, needed by > /usr/local/lib/libIlmImf.so, may conflict with libIlmThread.so.6 > > generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x5da): In function `writeGZ2(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int, Imath::Box > const&)': > : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, > : bool)' > > generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x604): In function `writeGZ2(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int, Imath::Box > const&)': > : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, > : bool)' > > generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x797): In function `writeGZ1(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int)': > : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, > : bool)' > > generalInterfaceExamples.o(.text+0x7c1): In function `writeGZ1(char const*, half const*, float const*, int, int)': > : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, > : bool)' > > generalInterfaceTiledExamples.o(.text+0x28c): In function `writeTiled1(char const*, Imf::Array2D&, int, int, int, int)': > : undefined reference to `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, > : bool)' > > generalInterfaceTiledExamples.o(.text+0x2b6): more undefined references to > `Imf::Channel::Channel(Imf::PixelType, int, int, bool)' follow gmake[1]: > *** [imfexamples] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory > `/usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR/work/openexr-1.6.0/IlmImfExamples' gmake: *** > [all-recursive] Error 1 > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/OpenEXR. > ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa > /tmp/portupgrade.1076.1 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade > UPGRADE_PORT=OpenEXR-1.4.0 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=1.4.0 make ** Fix the problem > and try again. > ** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) > ! graphics/OpenEXR (OpenEXR-1.4.0) (linker error) > ---> Packages processed: 0 done, 1 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed > > > Many thanks, > > Alain Read 20071008 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 11:46:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D645416A468 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B75EE13C45B for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:46:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ItM8B-0006vS-AX for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:46:35 -0800 Message-ID: <13808264.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 03:46:35 -0800 (PST) From: cuongvt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: cuongvt@fpt.vn References: <13793437.post@talk.nabble.com> Subject: Re: I went to 8.0 current accidently :( X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:46:48 -0000 cuongvt wrote: > > After got below news from OSnews.com yesterday (I was late), > I inserted RELENG_7 to my /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > as below: > > *default host=CHANGE_THIS.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/var/db > *default prefix=/usr > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7 > *default delete use-rel-suffix > *default compress > src-all > Then I exec: > cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.jp.freebsd.org > /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > > Then I -j10 buildworld, build kernel, install kernel, then as single > mode I installworld. > After that, when I uname -a, it output is: > FreeBSD hanhnhu.local 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri > Nov 16 19:48:47 ICT 2007 > Where I was wrong? > Tnx in advanced. > ================================ > > > "The 7.0-BETA2 builds have completed and are on many of the FreeBSD mirror > sites. If you want to update an existing machine using cvsup use RELENG_7 > as the branch tag. Instructions on using FreeBSD Update to perform a > binary upgrade from FreeBSD 6.x to 7.0-BETA2 will be provided via the > freebsd-stable list when available." > Never mind. It's my careless. I created other supfile with . in it and cvsup with it, not with stable sup file, so it went to 8.0 current. Sorry Btw currently it is not beta2, it's beta3 FreeBSD hanhnhu.local 7.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA3 #0: Sat Nov 17 18:19:47 ICT 2007 cuongvt@hanhnhu.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRUONGMINHHANH i386 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/I-went-to-8.0-current-accidently-%3A%28-tf4821358.html#a13808264 Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 13:45:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DD216A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:45:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from relay.sw.ru (mailhub.sw.ru [195.214.233.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A48313C457 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vova@sw.ru) Received: from vbook.fbsd.ru (swsoft-msk-nat.sw.ru [195.214.232.10]) by relay.sw.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lAHD2UrD015387 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:02:41 +0300 (MSK) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1ItNJ8-0000aD-VE; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:01:58 +0300 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: Matt In-Reply-To: References: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SWsoft Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:01:57 +0300 Message-Id: <1195304517.1387.7.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Cc: freebsd-questions , freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vova@fbsd.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:45:11 -0000 On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 16:38 -0600, Matt wrote: > On Nov 14, 2007 4:45 PM, James wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > first, I know the subject line is a goldmine for jokes, but I couldn't > > think of a better way to phrase it. > > > > Ever since I moved to FreeBSD 7.0, the evolution mail client has become > > ridiculously slow for me. It takes two or three minutes to start up, > > right clicking on a folder takes several minutes to display a context > > menu etc Same here on sched_4bsd. Also I can say, that problem appears earlier than last release of gnome. And it becomes worse with last update. (same bits: startup, right-click on attachment, move message to folder, change sort order /that only on last evolution/). > > My install process was as follows: > > > > 1. backup my home directory from a FreeBSD 6.2 install > > 2. Format the hard drive > > 3. Install 7.0 beta 1.5 > > 4. csup sources and install beta 2.0 > > 5. pkg_add xorg, gnome etc -- evolution was slow as a dog from this > > 6. portsnap fetch extract > > 7. follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating gnome > > > > I tried cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution && make deinstall && make > > reinstall, to see if something had simply gone wrong during the build, > > but nothing changed. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > James > > I've also experienced this since moving to 7-CURRENT (and tracking > through to the current 7.0-BETA2) and have been unable to figure out > why. Startup takes between 30 and 40 seconds, during with the > "evolution" process consumes 100% of one of the cores of the dual-core > processor. After startup, various actions (including right-clicking > on attachments) take approximately 10 seconds to complete the first > time the action is done, this time with the "evolution-data-server" > process consuming 100% of one core. Running ktrace against the > evolution process during startup shows large amounts of apparently > random information, but I don't have a pre-7 system to compare it to. > > I use SCHED_ULE and have had no other noticeable system slowdowns. > All ports have been built from source with no extra settings in > /etc/make.conf. > > $ cat /var/db/ports/evolution/options > > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > # No user-servicable parts inside! > # Options for evolution-2.12.1_3 > _OPTIONS_READ=evolution-2.12.1_3 > WITHOUT_PILOT=true > WITHOUT_LDAP=true > WITHOUT_SPAMASSASSIN=true > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Vladimir B. Grebenschikov vova@fbsd.ru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 14:05:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAFC16A468 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:05:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8832C13C46A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04291; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:59:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) Received: from ppp-82-135-76-181.dynamic.mnet-online.de(82.135.76.181) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma004274; Sat, 17 Nov 07 14:58:37 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lAHE4nWR007316; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:04:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from m.apitz@oclcpica.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to m.apitz@oclcpica.org using -f Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:04:49 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Yuri Message-ID: <20071117140449.GA7094@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE (i386) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know PID responsible for network connection/listen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:05:58 -0000 El día Thursday, November 15, 2007 a las 11:20:30AM -0800, Yuri escribió: > 'netstat -a' gives me the listing of network connection/listening records. > But there's no link to the process id that opened it. > With lots of processes this can be a significant problem to figure out who > opened which connection. For example, for the port 25 you see it with: # lsof -P | fgrep :25 sendmail 6462 root 3u IPv4 0xc5c3ecb0 0t0 TCP localhost:25 (LISTEN) i.e. the PID is 6462 HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 14:27:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E4016A468 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QK=b8e8f737@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7803513C442 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:27:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+QK=b8e8f737@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B94163F6C for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:04:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A852DD05AC for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:03:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:03:37 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071117140337.513fb3e3@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <200711171116.06705.peter.schuller@infidyne.com> References: <200711171116.06705.peter.schuller@infidyne.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: sysutils/etcmerge vs mergemaster X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:27:28 -0000 On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:15:58 +0100 Peter Schuller wrote: > Hello, > > etcmerge, with three-way merging, has been available for a while, but > the man page still warns of it not being extensively tested, and of > course mergermaster still seems to be the officially supported tool. > > In spite of this, etcmerge is attractive since, to be honest, > manually saying "yes update" to a bunch of files that mostly have > only CVS revision changes is a waste of time. Isn't that what the -U option in mergemaster does? -U Attempt to auto upgrade files that have not been user modified. BTW does etcmerge handle the merging of passwd and groups well, because that's what I hate more than anything else about upgrading. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 15:59:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B07716A417; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (marcuscom-pt.tunnel.tserv1.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:ffff::1279]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E619713C465; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4] (shumai.marcuscom.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f00:2464::4]) by creme-brulee.marcuscom.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAHFxa5A075751; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:59:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from marcus@marcuscom.com) From: Joe Marcus Clarke To: vova@fbsd.ru In-Reply-To: <1195304517.1387.7.camel@localhost> References: <1195080328.2091.4.camel@secretariat.lanl.gov> <1195304517.1387.7.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-UybRvNFcINSJvqv9cV34" Organization: MarcusCom, Inc. Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:59:22 -0500 Message-Id: <1195315162.75798.1.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on creme-brulee.marcuscom.com Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions , Matt Subject: Re: evolution slow on 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:59:23 -0000 --=-UybRvNFcINSJvqv9cV34 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 16:01 +0300, Vladimir Grebenschikov wrote: > On Fri, 2007-11-16 at 16:38 -0600, Matt wrote: > > On Nov 14, 2007 4:45 PM, James wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > first, I know the subject line is a goldmine for jokes, but I couldn'= t > > > think of a better way to phrase it. > > > > > > Ever since I moved to FreeBSD 7.0, the evolution mail client has beco= me > > > ridiculously slow for me. It takes two or three minutes to start up, > > > right clicking on a folder takes several minutes to display a context > > > menu etc >=20 > Same here on sched_4bsd. > Also I can say, that problem appears earlier than last release of gnome. > And it becomes worse with last update. >=20 > (same bits: startup, right-click on attachment, move message to folder, > change sort order /that only on last evolution/). I have seen slowdowns as well. You can speed up start time by disabling unused plug-ins as Evo spends a lot of time in the linker when starting. As for the rest of the slowdowns, please report them using GNOME Bugzilla. My research indicates that there is nothing FreeBSD-specific to this problem. Joe >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > > My install process was as follows: > > > > > > 1. backup my home directory from a FreeBSD 6.2 install > > > 2. Format the hard drive > > > 3. Install 7.0 beta 1.5 > > > 4. csup sources and install beta 2.0 > > > 5. pkg_add xorg, gnome etc -- evolution was slow as a dog from this > > > 6. portsnap fetch extract > > > 7. follow the instructions in UPDATING for updating gnome > > > > > > I tried cd /usr/ports/mail/evolution && make deinstall && make > > > reinstall, to see if something had simply gone wrong during the build= , > > > but nothing changed. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > James > >=20 > > I've also experienced this since moving to 7-CURRENT (and tracking > > through to the current 7.0-BETA2) and have been unable to figure out > > why. Startup takes between 30 and 40 seconds, during with the > > "evolution" process consumes 100% of one of the cores of the dual-core > > processor. After startup, various actions (including right-clicking > > on attachments) take approximately 10 seconds to complete the first > > time the action is done, this time with the "evolution-data-server" > > process consuming 100% of one core. Running ktrace against the > > evolution process during startup shows large amounts of apparently > > random information, but I don't have a pre-7 system to compare it to. > >=20 > > I use SCHED_ULE and have had no other noticeable system slowdowns. > > All ports have been built from source with no extra settings in > > /etc/make.conf. > >=20 > > $ cat /var/db/ports/evolution/options > >=20 > > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > > # No user-servicable parts inside! > > # Options for evolution-2.12.1_3 > > _OPTIONS_READ=3Devolution-2.12.1_3 > > WITHOUT_PILOT=3Dtrue > > WITHOUT_LDAP=3Dtrue > > WITHOUT_SPAMASSASSIN=3Dtrue > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-gnome > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-gnome-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-UybRvNFcINSJvqv9cV34 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHPw/Zb2iPiv4Uz4cRAvyBAJ0Xjz29hrfuHWUEoIDHTnQj0L6ylgCfbQRN hO+gLEy/Nnv2yYh3rjDr8Xw= =NKDH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-UybRvNFcINSJvqv9cV34-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 18:00:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF5A16A418 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:00:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B6513C4D1 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDB2AEAE145; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:00:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.191.123] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1ItRyB-0007mS-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:00:39 +0100 Message-ID: <473F2C34.40603@web.de> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:00:20 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <20071116214807.Y84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117030242.GB92063@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071117030242.GB92063@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX196MkJHKFAbDzMQtE9p9Btj79YlTS3W81egNDCp 5aXnNdt5gEpxdmH6RKasPirFnpJJRWk8gfU2cwjYgHnC7eAlXA 5NO5JhOjI= Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:00:49 -0000 Gary Kline schrieb: > > Hopefully! I bought TWO burners, tho. My acd0 is a Pioneer, > the acd1 is a cheaper "Lite On" (IIRC). > > > Sh... I also have a Lite-On Drive (Combo-Drive) and I never managed to burn under FreeBSD... Reading though is fine. Greez, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 18:05:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1770416A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D27513C4C5 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:05:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup92.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.92]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAHI3n9n031862 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:04:56 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAHI3diV002969; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:03:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAHI3PUs002964; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:03:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:03:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Joshua Isom Message-ID: <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.94, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Gary Kline , Yeef , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:05:26 -0000 On 2007-11-17 02:55, Joshua Isom wrote: > On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Yeef wrote: >> this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE >> >> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >> >> you should use root mount it. > > Or set vfs.usermount to 1, if I remember right. I can't recall what's > the proper method for setting it at boot, rc.conf or loader.conf. The > default is 0, which is what I have it set to, more to annoy me than > security (personal server behind a buggy router/firewall). man sysctl.conf That's the proper place to put `vfs.usermount=1'. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 18:06:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EBA16A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B4413C457 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup92.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.92]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAHI3p9H031863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:04:50 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAHI3gfa002970; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:03:42 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAHI1GsB002930; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:01:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:01:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chris Hill Message-ID: <20071117180115.GA2834@kobe.laptop> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.939, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Gary Kline , David J Brooks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:06:40 -0000 On 2007-11-16 22:24, Chris Hill wrote: >On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David J Brooks wrote: >>On Friday 16 November 2007 08:23:21 pm Gary Kline wrote: >>> This is the old and current fstable: >>> >>> # DVD drive (top) >>> /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 udf ro,noauto 0 0 >>> # CD-burner (bottom) >>> /dev/acd1 /media/cdroms/1 cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >> >> cd9660 is what you need. for the burner at least though, you'll want >> to make it rw rather than ro. Not really. When *mounted* even DVD-RW disks are read-only. > Good point! Although my CD burner burns CDs just fine with either > cdrecord or burncd, even with ro in its fstab line. That's because they are not written ``through the cd9660 filesystem driver'', but through cdrecord/burncd. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 18:12:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F2A16A420 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9897913C4D5 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:12:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup92.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.92]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAHIBxoi032307 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:12:19 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAHIBwfp003041; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:11:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAHIBugs003040; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:11:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:11:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "J. Porter Clark" Message-ID: <20071117181156.GC2834@kobe.laptop> References: <20071117043426.GA71265@auricle.charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071117043426.GA71265@auricle.charter.net> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.939, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Making mergemaster skip certain files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:12:46 -0000 On 2007-11-16 22:34, "J. Porter Clark" wrote: > Is there any way to keep certain files out of the reach of > mergemaster? I understand the need for carefully merging the > old and the new, but I really shouldn't ever have to for files > like these: > > /etc/aliases > /etc/hosts > /etc/hosts.allow > /etc/manpath.config > ... and many others. You can hook into mergemaster, using shell scripts. See the manpage of mergemaster for more details, but here's a short description of what I use on my laptop for some time now: 1. A `.mergemasterrc' file in the HOME directory of the `root' user, which contains: STRICT=no MM_PRE_COMPARE_SCRIPT=/root/mm-pre-compare.sh 2. 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Thank you for any info; Jeff k From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 19:47:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69F616A420 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798F313C461 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBF3B209E3B; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:47:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.191.123] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1ItTdY-0002En-00; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:47:28 +0100 Message-ID: <473F453D.5020806@web.de> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:47:09 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <1195154430.473c9bfef18f0@webmail.rawbw.com> <20071117140449.GA7094@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20071117140449.GA7094@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18hTJVVCIWBgALgNcuZsGqyVXoj4Z9kStom+S7M TC4cJJ3nGGpwKC4duZFBWywCoJuBeuAFizaq2u/tLPyygD+1SW YDSjOVf/4= Cc: Yuri , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to know PID responsible for network connection/listen? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:47:37 -0000 Matthias Apitz schrieb: > El día Thursday, November 15, 2007 a las 11:20:30AM -0800, Yuri escribió: > > >> 'netstat -a' gives me the listing of network connection/listening records. >> But there's no link to the process id that opened it. >> With lots of processes this can be a significant problem to figure out who >> opened which connection. >> > > For example, for the port 25 you see it with: > > # lsof -P | fgrep :25 > sendmail 6462 root 3u IPv4 0xc5c3ecb0 0t0 TCP localhost:25 (LISTEN) > > i.e. the PID is 6462 > > HIH > > matthias > ps -Al show the parent PID of each process. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 20:13:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FCB16A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDBD13C448 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAHKD1DI038685; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:13:01 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <473F4B4C.1000409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:13:00 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jekillen References: <07e37b95a06a64b80bbdec6424b8955b@prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <07e37b95a06a64b80bbdec6424b8955b@prodigy.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:13:01 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4828/Sat Nov 17 18:02:04 2007 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Sealed Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 20:13:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 jekillen wrote: > Hello; > I am planning on setting up Cyrus on a machine > and the documentation says that it is intended' > for use on 'sealed' servers (servers for which there > are no accounts that can log into the system) This is really just trying to say that you don't need a Unix login account in order to have an e-mail account via Cyrus IMAPd. Of course any server will require user accounts for its administrators to be able to log in. > However: > If I use ssh to administer the system, I have to > set it up so I can ssh directly to root, right. Wrong. The best practice is to require users to log in as themselves (thus establishing some sort of audit trail) and then use some program like su or sudo to gain rootly powers. At work we use a second instance of sshd bound to a high-numbered port on the loopback so you can ssh to root only after you've logged in and only if you've using ssh-agent and your ssh public key is in root's ..ssh/authorized_keys file. > and > Since there are references to use of MySQL > and the MySQL user is set up as a normal > user with a login/pwrd, No -- mysql runs as a non-privileged user which doesn't need to have any password set or any ability for anyone to get a login session as the mysql user. All that ID is for is to own some files and the various mysqld processes. This is a standard practice with most long-running daemons exposed to the network: it limits the damage that can be done by remote compromise of the software. > How do I get around that? (have MySQL > running on a different machine, or something?) Unless you're running a particularly heavyweight Cyrus installation (ie. lots of users + lots of e-mail) or you've got really weedy hardware, then you're better off running MySQL on the same machine as the rest of the mail system. Remember that there is a completely separate set of logins and passwords *within* MySQL -- nothing to do with the system logins from /etc/passwd. The best way to configure MySQL in that situation is to * use 'skip-networking' in the configuration file. This forces all connections to mysql to be via the unix domain socket in /tmp/mysql.sock * Run 'mysql_secure_installation' to remove remote root access, set the root password, get rid of wildcarded logins etc. * Review all user IDs and GRANTS carefully -- if you aren't using networking, then all your MySQL users should be 'userid'@'localhost' Adopt a polict of *minimum privilege* -- allow only the necessary access required for things to keep working. * In order to prevent the MySQL root password being used routinely (which makes it far more likely to be disclosed), create a file /root/.my.cnf with contents like: [client] user = root password = yourpassword Make sure the file is mode 600: read-write only for the owner With this in place, then once you've become the Unix root user you can then just type 'mysql' and get a root MySQL session without having to type any passwords. ie. you rely on the security of your Unix root account to protect your MySQL root account. > Please forgive my lack of sophistication on this > issue, I am learning. > (I have also been looking at Dovecot) > I have assembled some documentation on this > but have not found a direct answer, thus the > query here. > system uses Postfix on FreeBSD 6.2 Dovecot is good, and its configuration -- particularly where stuff like SASL is concerned -- is a lot easier for inexperienced users. It will run a mail server for tens of hundreds of users perfectly satisfactorily. On the other hand, if you're looking at thousands of users then Cyrus IMAPd is what you need. > One FYI that may be of interest: > I had my own dns servers listed in > resolv.conf before the isp's dns servers > and messages sent from this machine > (FreeBSD w/Postfix) were failing to deliver > to jekillen@prodigy.net due to dns lookup failures. > So I changed the order in resolv.conf (listing isp dns > servers first) and the messages were then delivered. > I thought that if one server could not respond with > enough info, the next server would be tried until one > was successful (making order insignificant). Sounds like your own recursive DNSes weren't actually working. Flaky DNS is the cause of most of the delays or failures that spoil your user experience: until you've thoroughly mastered managing DNS servers, I'd recommend using your ISPs servers. Having reliable DNS will help you a great deal while you are debugging your mail server setup. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP0tM8Mjk52CukIwRCH8IAJ4xT0dMI20EjkULC+JzPsG2xaRKPgCghJUu vHxUu3uadCDQBhwpN+CqOWA= =tsMj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 22:05:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCD616A417 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp120.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp120.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 073B613C46A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:05:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 36381 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 22:05:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=wbnO2si9FE+D47R82i3FLVL/Lq9SQ0ceXylxJ2UlqiQC3H7YxaXBriBXH2MrVasW5zp/hULjQM/yUcZOGnhUxt1DLYg1IJjdAnWwUt2rvdIbGbem0CgtgqS8wZAv+dbMhmtsaaUSTFOIyalQSsr7ibJ6V6owtE2ZrMI0Ht054kU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp120.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2007 22:05:41 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: CJxUghYVM1l8w7Aax6uekB5LtDLuIf12zNInBOVn.ecujL27RDRIeBSD5XcavPlAsk.jA5P2rQ-- In-Reply-To: <473F4B4C.1000409@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <07e37b95a06a64b80bbdec6424b8955b@prodigy.net> <473F4B4C.1000409@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <92eda78495ac527ebdec436d6bfee6bc@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:06:20 -0800 To: Matthew Seaman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Sealed Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:05:50 -0000 On Nov 17, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > jekillen wrote: >> Hello; >> I am planning on setting up Cyrus on a machine >> and the documentation says that it is intended' >> for use on 'sealed' servers (servers for which there >> are no accounts that can log into the system) > > This is really just trying to say that you don't need > a Unix login account in order to have an e-mail account > via Cyrus IMAPd. > > Of course any server will require user accounts for its > administrators to be able to log in. > > >> However: >> If I use ssh to administer the system, I have to >> set it up so I can ssh directly to root, right. > > Wrong. The best practice is to require users to log in > as themselves (thus establishing some sort of audit trail) > and then use some program like su or sudo to gain rootly > powers. At work we use a second instance of sshd bound to > a high-numbered port on the loopback so you can ssh to root > only after you've logged in and only if you've using > ssh-agent and your ssh public key is in root's > ..ssh/authorized_keys file. Thank you this answers these questions > >> and >> Since there are references to use of MySQL >> and the MySQL user is set up as a normal >> user with a login/pwrd, > > No -- mysql runs as a non-privileged user which doesn't need > to have any password set or any ability for anyone to get a > login session as the mysql user. All that ID is for is to own > some files and the various mysqld processes. This is a standard > practice with most long-running daemons exposed to the network: > it limits the damage that can be done by remote compromise of > the software. and this accept, I know that MySQL has a separate set of user/passwords and various levels of access privilege, When I built and installed MySQL I had to create a mysql user as a normal user with password, unless I misunderstood. Someone who knew this password would be able to log into the system as user mysql (or the name that was given to mysqld to run as) > The best way to configure MySQL in that situation is to > > * use 'skip-networking' in the configuration file. This > forces all connections to mysql to be via the unix domain > socket in /tmp/mysql.sock > > * Run 'mysql_secure_installation' to remove remote root access, > set the root password, get rid of wildcarded logins etc. > > * Review all user IDs and GRANTS carefully -- if you aren't using > networking, then all your MySQL users should be > 'userid'@'localhost' Adopt a polict of *minimum privilege* -- > allow only the necessary access required for things to keep > working. > > * In order to prevent the MySQL root password being used routinely > (which makes it far more likely to be disclosed), create a > file /root/.my.cnf with contents like: > > [client] > user = root > password = yourpassword > > Make sure the file is mode 600: read-write only for the owner > With this in place, then once you've become the Unix root user > you can then just type 'mysql' and get a root MySQL session > without having to type any passwords. ie. you rely on the > security of your Unix root account to protect your MySQL > root account. > >> Please forgive my lack of sophistication on this >> issue, I am learning. >> (I have also been looking at Dovecot) >> I have assembled some documentation on this >> but have not found a direct answer, thus the >> query here. >> system uses Postfix on FreeBSD 6.2 > > Dovecot is good, and its configuration -- particularly where stuff > like SASL > is concerned -- is a lot easier for inexperienced users. It will run > a mail > server for tens of hundreds of users perfectly satisfactorily. On the > other > hand, if you're looking at thousands of users then Cyrus IMAPd is what > you > need. > >> One FYI that may be of interest: >> I had my own dns servers listed in >> resolv.conf before the isp's dns servers >> and messages sent from this machine >> (FreeBSD w/Postfix) were failing to deliver >> to jekillen@prodigy.net due to dns lookup failures. >> So I changed the order in resolv.conf (listing isp dns >> servers first) and the messages were then delivered. >> I thought that if one server could not respond with >> enough info, the next server would be tried until one >> was successful (making order insignificant). > > Sounds like your own recursive DNSes weren't actually working. > Flaky DNS is the cause of most of the delays or failures that > spoil your user experience: That is probably the cause, but editing resolv.conf was the quick fix. > until you've thoroughly mastered managing > DNS servers, I'd recommend using your ISPs servers. Having > reliable DNS will help you a great deal while you are debugging > your mail server setup. Actually they work fine for what I set them up for. It was the recursive aspect that I had forgotten about, but as I remember, there was a security issue with regard to recursive queries so I have them disabled. I have the isp's servers set up to relay queries to in my primary named.conf and that is probably what I have wrong, somehow. Because of this e-mail setup issue, I had contacted the isp and they have delegated all my static ip addresses to me and added my name servers to their database. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > Thank you very much for your assistance. Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 22:13:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF30516A46C for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408F713C459 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAHMDKHG054281; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:13:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lAHMDJqS053985; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:13:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:13:19 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , Yeef , Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:13:38 -0000 On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 08:03:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-11-17 02:55, Joshua Isom wrote: > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Yeef wrote: > >> this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE > >> > >> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 > >> > >> you should use root mount it. > > > > Or set vfs.usermount to 1, if I remember right. I can't recall what's > > the proper method for setting it at boot, rc.conf or loader.conf. The > > default is 0, which is what I have it set to, more to annoy me than > > security (personal server behind a buggy router/firewall). > > man sysctl.conf > > That's the proper place to put `vfs.usermount=1'. > Okay, I've set vfs.usermount=1, but both totem and kmplayer refuse to play my audio-CD. Using #mount alone (as root) doesn't say anything about /dev/acd0. I have tried to mount the CD :: root@tao2:/dev# mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument and root@tao2:/dev# mount_cd9660 /media/cdroms/0 /dev/acd0 mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: not a directory In /, media and its subdirectories are mode 777, and in /dev, acd[01] are all 0666 char devices. Any more places to mouse-click on or files/directories to chown/chmod?? Oh: FWIW: root@tao2:/dev# mount /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ad1s1d on /var (ufs, local) /dev/ad1s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) /dev/ad1s1e on /home (ufs, local) /dev/ad1s1g on /store (ufs, local, soft-updates) gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 22:30:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7684616A469 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B9513C46A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so5192574pyb for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:29:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pluEzgy0hNGf3SGHKsZmjwm7fTkNtO6/uVrwWStL4Qo=; b=Ny4CkP3/TfOzHE8tWffei6v89lYlmOT9EWczqxptf32HwCWt7w/ZZA7hfCTDPfIQMggsv4RxrSGq7cbTxOk3vrkB/ot/muXLpoGNztI8W/IsUmXGCywwfdqnvo6BNBbQK9Ife34ja2WY/kqD3A49WaqW6V6nJMqZ0Ox5L+H1GMM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ihcRQ2waVtC993oeH3kFwXRW6lYfFdVNmbi7RhlpYey6HZRjFcHbdKEHFAO+HVhd229HN0AXmHyH5N4gd2PTeZOql8WmNWuMuXMaOn1b7fr5BU5/R+QsiiT18T4T+isgPdz0sqF5Frd8PI/AOzYgslA1E3xQiUEqO3svZW1xUsM= Received: by 10.65.196.2 with SMTP id y2mr7637250qbp.1195338596362; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:29:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e13sm2946835qbe.2007.11.17.14.29.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:29:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473F250F.2030903@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:29:51 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: congrlations to the freebsd developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:30:06 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 After having the help of several developers to resolve hw issues on my machine I have set up a 2 dual boot enviroment between 8-current (for desktop use) and vista. I am just writting to say 8-current kicks vista's ass in response time, stability [note 1], and almost every other aspect except for end-user oriented office apps [note 2] and games. Notes: 1. As was posted in an other thread my nic still has a slow death issue 2. I meant features not formats and since I am using amd64 no wine - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHPyUKJ9+1V27SttsRAq6FAJ91vQ/oxWGBN+IVqIsPXA8oWODgnACcCZ8a T9/R/6Zz1tovsNtrvP0RU2s= =g5sJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 22:40:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681B416A46D for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469F413C44B for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:40:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.141] (may be forged)) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAHMeKNC028653 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:21 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from dzihan.cs.washington.edu (dzihan.cs.washington.edu [128.208.4.96]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW07.09) with ESMTP id lAHMeIOF011521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:20 -0800 Message-ID: <473F6DD2.6050701@u.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:40:18 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.3.3.310218, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.2.313940, Antispam-Data: 2007.11.17.141954 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Yeef , Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:40:38 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 08:03:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> On 2007-11-17 02:55, Joshua Isom wrote: >> >>> On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Yeef wrote: >>> >>>> this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE >>>> >>>> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >>>> >>>> you should use root mount it. >>>> >>> Or set vfs.usermount to 1, if I remember right. I can't recall what's >>> the proper method for setting it at boot, rc.conf or loader.conf. The >>> default is 0, which is what I have it set to, more to annoy me than >>> security (personal server behind a buggy router/firewall). >>> >> man sysctl.conf >> >> That's the proper place to put `vfs.usermount=1'. >> >> > > Okay, I've set vfs.usermount=1, but both totem and kmplayer > refuse to play my audio-CD. Using #mount alone (as root) > doesn't say anything about /dev/acd0. I have tried to mount > the CD :: > > root@tao2:/dev# mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument > > and > > root@tao2:/dev# mount_cd9660 /media/cdroms/0 /dev/acd0 > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: not a directory > > In /, media and its subdirectories are mode 777, and in > /dev, acd[01] are all 0666 char devices. > > Any more places to mouse-click on or files/directories to > chown/chmod?? > > Oh: FWIW: > > > root@tao2:/dev# mount > /dev/ad0s1a on / (ufs, local) > devfs on /dev (devfs, local) > /dev/ad1s1d on /var (ufs, local) > /dev/ad1s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates) > /dev/ad1s1e on /home (ufs, local) > /dev/ad1s1g on /store (ufs, local, soft-updates) > > > gary Even though audio CDs use the ISO-9660 standard, they aren't really mountable (depends on how you look at the problem, i.e. what OS you use, and what audio playing app you use). Specifying the /dev node or mount point (via the application / plugin preferences), without trying to mount the actual disk, will most likely yield the results you want. Cheers, -Garrett From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 22:57:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B61116A41A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:57:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A4E13C45D for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:57:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 15981 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2007 22:57:27 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 17 Nov 2007 22:57:27 -0000 Message-ID: <473F718E.3040106@chuckr.org> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:56:14 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Isom References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Gary Kline , Yeef , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:57:44 -0000 Joshua Isom wrote: > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Yeef wrote: > >> this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE >> >> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >> >> you should use root mount it. > > Or set vfs.usermount to 1, if I remember right. I can't recall what's > the proper method for setting it at boot, rc.conf or loader.conf. The > default is 0, which is what I have it set to, more to annoy me than > security(personal server behind a buggy router/firewall). > > I have a dvd-rw and cd-rw in the same box, and I haven't recalled any > problems with access(except from dvd speed which I'm hoping for an > answer or fix for) or writing. > >> On Nov 17, 2007 12:50 PM, Gary Kline wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:30PM -0500, Chris Hill wrote: >>> >>> I think I have this page bookmarked; can't find it. I'll try >>> "rw" and "ro". Can either you or David explain why I get a >>> popup error: Can't mount volume. [?] When I clicked on the >>> Details, it says: >>> >>> mount_cd9660: /dev/acd1: Operation not permitted >>> >>> I click on "System" (upper left) -> Preferences -> >>> "Removable Drives and Media Prederences" and select every >>> peermissions box. Nothing. (I'm using a data disk, not >>> audio.) Gary, I've watched for this to go awhile before i went and jumped in, to ask my question ... it's about my cdrom drive, whic is a sony, one that's been 100% reliable for me, I used it regularly under linux with k3b to burn stuff. Now, under FreeBSD, k3b won't even recognize it as a ro or rw cd drive at all. I can coax burncd to burn bootable disks successfully with it, but after the command completes, all further accesses to the drive return "device busy", and I have to reboot FreeBSD in order to even eject the cd. The only way I even knew the disk was ok was because afterwards, it tried to boot the machine from the disk image of a FreeBSD boot disk (which is what I was burning, for a different machine, an AMD64 next to it). Lucky that this machine is even binarily compatible (the Intel box is a 64 bit processor, so it boots AMD64 fine, but I didn't install it that way). Anyhow, how could I either coax k3b to recognize it, or get burncd to let the disk go after it's finished with it? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 23:15:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA4E16A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6042813C43E for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAHNEpCs092553; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:14:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5320FB8F7; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:14:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:14:51 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20071117231451.GA47807@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Gary Kline , Giorgos Keramidas , Yeef , Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions Questions References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Yeef , Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:15:06 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 02:13:19PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Okay, I've set vfs.usermount=3D1, but both totem and kmplayer > refuse to play my audio-CD.=20 You don't mount audio CDs. They don't carry a cd9660 filesystem. Try something like this with a CD in the drive; mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/acd0 cdda://1 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHP3XrEnfvsMMhpyURAsBtAJ98mTINlw7WG8ARKoeeHjWL4D90OgCfStHI icCGPUJLInlG3XyJGBGDcyY= =zXWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 23:38:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0867816A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FF813C511 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup80.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.80]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lAHNZXRq018853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:35:45 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAHNZVjN005614; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:35:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lAHNZVON005613; Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:35:31 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:35:31 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20071117233531.GA5519@kobe.laptop> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.94, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.46, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Yeef , Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions Questions Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:38:39 -0000 On 2007-11-17 14:13, Gary Kline wrote: >On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 08:03:25PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2007-11-17 02:55, Joshua Isom wrote: >>> On Nov 16, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Yeef wrote: >>>> this is work for me freebsd 6.2-RELEASE >>>> >>>> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 >>>> >>>> you should use root mount it. >>> >>> Or set vfs.usermount to 1, if I remember right. I can't recall what's >>> the proper method for setting it at boot, rc.conf or loader.conf. The >>> default is 0, which is what I have it set to, more to annoy me than >>> security (personal server behind a buggy router/firewall). >> >> man sysctl.conf >> >> That's the proper place to put `vfs.usermount=1'. > > Okay, I've set vfs.usermount=1, but both totem and kmplayer > refuse to play my audio-CD. Using #mount alone (as root) > doesn't say anything about /dev/acd0. I have tried to mount > the CD :: > > root@tao2:/dev# mount_cd9660 /dev/acd0 /media/cdroms/0 > mount_cd9660: /dev/acd0: Invalid argument You are not trying to _mount_ an audio CD-ROM, right? If you are, then please read carefully the Handbook chapter about multimedia and CD-ROM/DVD-ROM disks. It will help a lot :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 23:50:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71B216A468; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDBB13C4D3; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lAHNmuUW045231; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:48:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:48:53 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20071117.164853.1221560804.imp@bsdimp.com> To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <473F250F.2030903@gmail.com> References: <473F250F.2030903@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: congrlations to the freebsd developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:50:29 -0000 In message: <473F250F.2030903@gmail.com> "Aryeh M. Friedman" writes: : After having the help of several developers to resolve hw issues on my : machine I have set up a 2 dual boot enviroment between 8-current (for : desktop use) and vista. I am just writting to say 8-current kicks : vista's ass in response time, stability [note 1], and almost every : other aspect except for end-user oriented office apps [note 2] and games. : : Notes: : : 1. As was posted in an other thread my nic still has a slow death issue : 2. I meant features not formats and since I am using amd64 no wine You can run FreeBSD/i386 on amd64 boxes. Warner From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 23:53:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F42E16A41A for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0780D13C467 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so5224414pyb for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:53:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TF2cRptRd+MsmU5yddNixaAOEsR4lkXOH/pZF2R7M0E=; b=cYqETJkmISAIhgJCwBeu+CW6FRMUPQItFvFGNGhuoeTrSeCnsTG+xX3qgSzr6numE2fK0fILBo8FG3/tmgLEi5ht4eW7p5jF0lGqagLWiP7ni0Ozsd+V/2Wamb/OqXFg2dWUw4naB0TPOATBfn8rjfZRWjRuk4pX7F0uvHntLbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CkhpjOETxmJ89th32+KPTnbDKJW6f83d6stMJZLsHNYiOtXshnYYIZ1UYBMmWVlMzWFi52hHw7piyhPEJT7MB254EWn6U0w9afkqBd/fQSWo0/gyzSOIy1YziwNSbxV4kCVhtODp/lRgjHcQSeS1WNaINAyh9iI0Xuqhvmi0cYs= Received: by 10.64.181.12 with SMTP id d12mr7771693qbf.1195343594481; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e19sm3026631qbe.2007.11.17.15.53.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:53:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <473F7EE7.4080405@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:53:11 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071111) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <473F250F.2030903@gmail.com> <20071117.164853.1221560804.imp@bsdimp.com> In-Reply-To: <20071117.164853.1221560804.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: congrlations to the freebsd developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:53:25 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <473F250F.2030903@gmail.com> "Aryeh M. Friedman" > writes: : After having the help of > several developers to resolve hw issues on my : machine I have set > up a 2 dual boot enviroment between 8-current (for : desktop use) > and vista. I am just writting to say 8-current kicks : vista's > ass in response time, stability [note 1], and almost every : other > aspect except for end-user oriented office apps [note 2] and games. > : : Notes: : : 1. As was posted in an other thread my nic still > has a slow death issue : 2. I meant features not formats and since > I am using amd64 no wine > > You can run FreeBSD/i386 on amd64 boxes. All the different methods people have suggested to me for doing this has blown up.... also since I use a nvidia card it is almost pointless unless I can run the nvidia kernel module. - --Aryeh - -- Aryeh M. Friedman Developer, not business, friendly http://www.flosoft-systems.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHP37nJ9+1V27SttsRAuEsAJ9FN80TH243ApUahdvBkxES2KbBZgCcCEpZ AD9ACLTTvbnhrBHrxhk7JnA= =68JJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 17 23:56:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2228216A419 for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:56:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3815A13C45D for ; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lAHNuMQi086369; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:56:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lAHNuKXv086368; Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 15:56:19 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Gary Kline , Giorgos Keramidas , Yeef , Joshua Isom , freebsd-questions Questions Message-ID: <20071117235619.GA85178@thought.org> References: <20071117022321.GA92031@thought.org> <200711162121.25252.freysman@comcast.net> <20071116222207.X84300@tripel.monochrome.org> <20071117045033.GB93143@thought.org> <197f543d0711162056g6ddaf54y16a3c2e9c789a500@mail.gmail.com> <20071117180325.GB2834@kobe.laptop> <20071117221318.GA32536@thought.org> <20071117231451.GA47807@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071117231451.GA47807@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: Re: What do I put in fstab to get my DVD/CDROM burner to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:56:45 -0000 On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 12:14:51AM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 02:13:19PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Okay, I've set vfs.usermount=1, but both totem and kmplayer > > refuse to play my audio-CD. > > You don't mount audio CDs. They don't carry a cd9660 filesystem. > > Try something like this with a CD in the drive; > > mplayer -cdrom-device /dev/acd0 cdda://1 > > Roland Closer, perhaps, but the stderr is Plaaying cdda://1. File not found: '1' So whatever it's looking fo r with "cdda://" is missing. (There are 25, 35 tracks on this CD.) gary > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org