From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 00:08:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1EB16A421 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0113F13C455 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB908IbW092170; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lB908IZ4092166; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:08:18 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:08:17 -0800 Message-ID: <1197158897.475b31f15e30d@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:08:17 -0800 From: Yuri To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.219.144.224 Subject: setxkbmap dosn't work (with KDE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:08:25 -0000 I am trying to enable some key combination to switch between keyboard layouts. Command 'setxkbmap -option grp:alts_toggle' is supposed to enable layout switching by both alts. But alts don't do anything after it. Same with 'setxkbmap -option grp:caps_toggle'. setxkbmap is from setxkbmap-1.0.4. This must be a bug somewhere. Anyone also experiences this problem? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 00:15:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A1E16A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:15:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C668013C455 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2007 19:15:48 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id ODE30281; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:15:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2007 19:14:43 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18267.13233.997932.751170@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:15:45 -0500 To: Anish Mistry In-Reply-To: <200712071630.27086.amistry@am-productions.biz> References: <18265.33716.292978.508655@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200712071533.47603.amistry@am-productions.biz> <18265.47245.180114.491313@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200712071630.27086.amistry@am-productions.biz> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:15:50 -0000 Anish Mistry writes: > > So if the PSC attaches as umass, I'm hosed, but if it attaches > > as ugen I win. > You can probably hack the umass driver to prevent it from > attaching to the printer. On attaching, I get: ugen1: on uhub4 So it looks like I'm good. Now we'll see if HPLIP can do its job. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 00:59:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8E216A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:59:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2235E13C43E for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2007 19:59:54 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id ODE37265; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:59:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 08 Dec 2007 19:58:51 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18267.15881.458048.761723@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:59:53 -0500 To: Robert Huff In-Reply-To: <18267.13233.997932.751170@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <18265.33716.292978.508655@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200712071533.47603.amistry@am-productions.biz> <18265.47245.180114.491313@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <200712071630.27086.amistry@am-productions.biz> <18267.13233.997932.751170@jerusalem.litteratus.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Anish Mistry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help wanted configuring HPLIP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:59:56 -0000 Robert Huff writes: > So it looks like I'm good. Now we'll see if HPLIP can do its > job. So close, and yet so far. Ran hp-setup. Everything worked OK except for: 1) didn't automatically find the correct driver (is it supposed to?) 2) found the device when I checked "discover all", but not when I checked only "scan to PC". However, the real obstacle is: Dec 8 19:50:17 jerusalem PSC_750xi?serial=MY22KD1108WB: io/hpmud/musb.c 1003: unable to open hp:/usb/PSC_750xi?serial=MY22KD1108WB I'm assuming this is because I haven't rebooted and the devfs rules haven't changed. Is there an approved way to get the appropriate party to re-read and implement? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 02:12:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384BD16A41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA02C13C45D for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from toni.schrodinger.com (toni.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.56]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lB91i6M9031485 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:44:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [10.10.18.38] (sub22-20.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.22.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by toni.schrodinger.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lB91i54n079449 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 17:44:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:44:00 -0800 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]); Sat, 08 Dec 2007 17:44:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: How to find out when a package is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:12:52 -0000 Hi, Is there a command that can help find out when a package is installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find out installation date? Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 02:17:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9553A16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E5B13C448 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1Bjo-0004Xh-9U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:17:54 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1BjR-0004XO-H1; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:17:25 -0700 Message-ID: <475B5031.9050000@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:17:21 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712082203.28758.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200712082203.28758.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:17:57 -0000 Pollywog wrote: > On Saturday 08 December 2007 20:39:06 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> I was just looking at the documentation on SANE web-site about network >> scanning >> and I noticed that /etc/services on my i386 does not include line like >> >> sane-port 6566/tcp # SANE network scanner daemon >> >> which is used by saned (Sane Network Daemon to enable scanning over the >> network). >> The /etc/inetd.conf file is also missing line (of course should be >> commented by default) >> >> sane-port stream tcp nowait saned.saned /usr/local/sbin/saned saned >> >> The handbook is also mute about the scanning over the network. >> >> Is anybody using scanners on the network on FreeBSD? Handbook article >> should also be appended. >> I might try to play with it and see how it goes. I could contribute the >> documentation if the community has interest in it. >> >> > > I wanted to do this but I could not find a package for it. In Linux, I use > sane-utils to do this. > Saned (Sane Daemon) is included in the standard distribution of sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it is just idiotic GUI. I have to go very carefully through sane documentation and all files that come with the sane-backhands. My hunch would be that one needs to do at least following steps for network scanning. For the purposes of this example I will assume that scanner already works properly on a machine which we will refer as server. Our goal is to make this scanner usable to other machines which we call clients on our local network. The following scenario looks likely. We have a small computer lab of 10 machines running FreeBSD, 2 printers and a scanner. We want people who use these work stations to be able to use any of these two printers and the scanner regardless of the fact if the printer or a scanner is physically attached to a particular workstation. Step 1 Edit /etc/services with (probably both on server and on the client machine) sane-port 6566/tcp # SANE network scanner daemon Step 2 Edit /etc/inetd.conf as (on the server and on the client machine) sane-port stream tcp nowait saned.saned /usr/local/sbin/saned saned Step 3 Edit /etc/rc.conf with (on the server and on the client machine) inetd_enable="YES" saned_enable="YES" Step 4 One probably also needs to edit /etc/hosts to add the host server to which sane is attached. (this is probably only on the client machine) Step 5 Edit file /usr/local/etc/sane.d/net.conf which as default looks like # This is the net config file. Each line names a host to attach to. # If you list "localhost" then your backends can be accessed either # directly or through the net backend. Going through the net backend # may be necessary to access devices that need special privileges. # localhost on the client side. Maybe on the server side too. Step 6 Edit file /usr/local/etc/sane.d/saned.conf which as default looks like # # saned.conf # # The contents of the saned.conf file is a list of host names, IP # addresses or IP subnets (CIDR notation) that are permitted to use local # SANE devices. IPv6 addresses must be enclosed in brackets, and should # always be specified in their compressed form. # # The hostname matching is not case-sensitive. # #scan-client.somedomain.firm #192.168.0.1 #192.168.0.1/29 #[2001:7a8:185e::42:12] #[2001:7a8:185e::42:12]/64 # # NOTE: /etc/inetd.conf (or /etc/xinetd.conf) and # /etc/services must also be properly configured to start # the saned daemon as documented in saned(8), services(4) # and inetd.conf(4) (or xinetd.conf(5)). probably both on local and server side. I probably skipped some steps both on the client and on the server side. Step 7 Reboot server and clients for daemons to start. I do not know of the web configuration utility to do this like the one for Samba (which also uses inetd) and it will probably make system administration just less transparent. I do not fully understand the security implication of the running daemon. It looks to me that the daemon is running around as a supper user and that might be very serious thing. Probably above should be tried only behind the PF but how to configure the PF so that the daemon is invisible to anybody who is outside of our local network? I have more questions at this point than the answers and I just thought of this for half an hour. I will play with my local network after the Christmas holidays and report on the results. Cheers, Predrag > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 02:47:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8228D16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6085813C447 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:47:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1CDn-0007PL-OA for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:48:53 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1CCz-0007Ov-BR; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:47:57 -0700 Message-ID: <475B5710.1040403@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:46:40 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline , questions@freebsd.org References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <20071208215715.GA1543@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071208215715.GA1543@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:47:40 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> Folks, >>> >>> IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto >>> on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. >>> The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things >>> CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. >>> >>> That said, first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please >>> post it; or send it privately. I just bought some "Memorex >>> DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD. >>> On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes >>> in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on. >>> Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing >>> this professioally recorded disc? Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat >>> I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD? >>> >>> gary >>> >>> PS: I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff >>> since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> I wrote K3b how to >> http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b >> but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it. >> > > > Actually, my best friend for > 30 years comes from [ what was ] > Yugoslavia; so he could surely help me with the translation. > > I think I have the k3b stuff actually workinng. As of late FFriday > night, k3b ran thru all of its tests. That wasn't my question. > I want to know > more about what DVD blanks are good,better,best, and whether it is > worth "wasting" a blank DVD in trying to copy a DVD that I borrowed > from the library. > > I've googled arouund, tryiiing to get some kind of specs that an > EE can understand ... even if he kknows nothing about figital > video. > > I think that duplicating DVDs works like a charm on FreeBSD but I think there is a better software in ports for that of K3b which is kind a all in one generic GUI application. This is also a useful link http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html if you are trying to understand DVD business. There are definitely people on this mailing list or on OpenBSD mailing list (I do not remember any more as I am on both mailing lists) who have fantastic knowledge of DVD writable medias, proprietary Video Formats and various issues that come with that including the issues of regional coding and by that I do not mean just USA vs Europe or Asia. Even inside of U. S. where I have being g living for the past 12 years there are many different regional formats. I am clueless about it. As a mathematician I am probably much less capable of understanding DVD technical issues than you. To be perfectly honest as a professional mathematician I am very concern with the status of TeX port and the fact that two years after teTeX was abolished by TeX community in favor of TeXLive there are no even indication that the TeXLive will be ported to FreeBSD. Even in the most crude form (4 packages) as it is done in OpenBSD would be better than noting. Of course the Debian way (30 or so packages) would be my preferable way as TeXLive is developing really rapidly in some areas. My knowledge of porting is unfortunately inadequate to be able to help with such a major project. Cheers, Predrag > thanks for your email; it was one of the postings that helped me > get atapicam stuff *working* > > :-) > > gary > > > >> Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak >> Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important >> steps you need to do. >> >> Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with >> >> atapicam_load="YES" >> hw.ata.ata_dma="1" >> hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" >> >> since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD >> >> >> Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those >> are needed for a work station anyway >> >> perm /dev/acd0 0666 >> perm /dev/cd0 0666 >> >> # Commonly used by many ports >> >> link cd0 cdrom >> link cd0 dvd >> link cd0 rdvd >> >> link acd0 cdrom >> link acd0 dvd >> link acd0 rdvd >> >> # Misc other devices >> >> perm cdrom 0666 >> perm dvd 0666 >> perm rdvd 0666 >> perm xpt0 0666 >> perm pass0 0666 >> >> >> Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user >> since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you >> >> >> [pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab >> #These are my options >> /dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 >> /dev/acd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 >> >> >> >> You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart. >> >> >> Also read >> >> make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b >> >> Best, >> Predrag >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 02:51:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9A116A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:51:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189A413C458 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:51:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE477482D1 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC71DB846 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:51:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:51:33 +0000 References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712082203.28758.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B5031.9050000@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475B5031.9050000@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712090251.35010.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:51:53 -0000 On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Saned (Sane Daemon) is included in the standard distribution of > sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it > is just idiotic GUI. > I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD. The sane-utils package contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan from any machine on my LAN that runs Linux. The files are /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and also saned.conf and net.conf in the same directory. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 03:26:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0637916A41A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7B513C455 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1Coa-0004ag-Sh for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:26:54 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1CoB-0004aN-Pt; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:26:23 -0700 Message-ID: <475B605B.8060601@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:26:19 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog , questions@freebsd.org References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712082203.28758.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B5031.9050000@math.arizona.edu> <200712090251.35010.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200712090251.35010.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:26:55 -0000 Pollywog wrote: > On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > >> Saned (Sane Daemon) is included in the standard distribution of >> sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it >> is just idiotic GUI. >> >> > > I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD. The sane-utils package > contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan from any > machine on my LAN that runs Linux. The files are /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and > also saned.conf and net.conf in the same directory. > Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need to have. Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part. That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have that man power and the user base to do the same. Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article for Handbook. Best, Predrag > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 03:40:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C7316A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0497F13C457 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-75-36-249-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [75.36.249.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB93eR95067910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:40:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <475B63D7.9010907@monkeybrains.net> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:41:11 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:40:28 -0000 I want to use the "audacity" port to record sound and play it back. I don't have a mini-jack microphone, but I have a USB microphone. The system tries to record from the motherboard sound card (which does not have a microphone attached). If I run this command: sysctl hw.snd.default_unit=1 audacity will not start because my dsp1 does not have any out. here is the output of /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v channels duplex default) pcm1: at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz I am using: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 For other with a similar situation: this command: kldload snd_uaudio get FreeBSD to recognize your Logitech USB microphone (from the Playstation). - RUdy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 03:42:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B1116A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) Received: from ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.214.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260CF13C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from malcolm.kay@internode.on.net) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAAvsWkd5LZsT/2dsb2JhbACBWg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.23,273,1194183000"; d="scan'208";a="2713157" Received: from ppp121-45-155-19.lns11.adl6.internode.on.net (HELO alpha.home) ([121.45.155.19]) by ipmail01.adl6.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2007 13:57:06 +1030 From: Malcolm Kay Organization: at home To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:56:55 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712091356.55929.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Cc: Gary Kline Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:42:16 -0000 On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:33 am, Gary Kline wrote: > > Folks, > > IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. > The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things > CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. > I don't use k3b so what capability it has is not known to me. > That said, first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please > post it; or send it privately. I just bought some "Memorex > DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD. > On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes > in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on. The nominal capacity of the single sided DVD is 120 minutes but some 32 different definitions are recognised including: EP -- extended play - 360 minutes LP -- long play - 240 minutes SP -- standard play - 120 minutes FINE - 60 minutes But how are you getting your source? What definition is it in? > Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing > this professioally recorded disc? As I've already said I know little of k3b but you'll probably need some sort of authoring/editing software and possibly another package for compression/definition conversion. > Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat > I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD? Yes, it means that the total disk can be rewritten -- but the ability to edit without rewriting all can be quite limited. And RW disks can have a rather limited rewrite life -- some 10s of times. > > gary > > PS: I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff > since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-) EP or LP modes with 6 or 4 hour capacity would probably both cater for a better quality than your analogue cassettes. > > > > Malcolm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 03:45:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7416A473 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDFA13C46A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BB248486 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 22:45:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E935B846 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:45:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:45:36 +0000 References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712090251.35010.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B605B.8060601@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475B605B.8060601@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712090345.38289.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:45:56 -0000 On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need > to have. > > > Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be > surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part. > That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have > that man power and the user base to do the same. > > Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would > be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have > no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article > for Handbook. I have not done this in FreeBSD, only Linux. I have a printer that requires HPOJ, which I don't believe is available for FreeBSD. My printer is a Hewlett-Packard PSC 2110 "All-in-one" and it is a USB printer. Someone told me that HPLIP is what I should use but I was unable to get it to work with my printer. I believe I used instructions I found at Marcel Gagne's website to get network scanning working in Linux. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 03:48:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B0116A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C5213C44B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:48:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-75-36-249-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [75.36.249.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB93mVPo069134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 19:48:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <475B65BC.3090709@monkeybrains.net> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:49:16 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Gao References: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> In-Reply-To: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find out when a package is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:48:33 -0000 I have used this: ls -l /var/db/pkg/PORT_NAME/+DESC replace PORT_NAME with the correct directory name... RUdy Simon Gao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a command that can help find out when a package is > installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find > out installation date? > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 03:55:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045F116A46B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ED013C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id A85AE614E; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:55:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA69860F1 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:55:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lB93sxik017668 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:54:59 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 03:54:59 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071209035458.GA1123@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: How to find out when a package is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 03:55:03 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 05:44:00PM -0800, Simon Gao wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Is there a command that can help find out when a package is > installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find > out installation date? I don't think there is such a command - I've never come across it, in=20 any event. However, you might be able to something useful by inspecting the mtimes of +COMMENTS and +DESC files in /var/db/pkg/*/ Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHW2cSixf5fBYiFmoRAnzTAJwNriWblwPUZ4IEdScLdqN6mkNpdwCdEgJK XEFmnAHyfdYsOVT1yd3trdw= =1VKr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 04:02:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CAD16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A68213C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A188848486 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE959B846 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:02:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:01:56 +0000 References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712090251.35010.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B605B.8060601@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475B605B.8060601@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712090401.58411.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:02:23 -0000 On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Pollywog wrote: > > On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> Saned (Sane Daemon) is included in the standard distribution of > >> sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it > >> is just idiotic GUI. > > > > I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD. The sane-utils > > package contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan > > from any machine on my LAN that runs Linux. The files are > > /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and also saned.conf and net.conf in the same > > directory. > > Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need > to have. > > > Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be > surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part. > That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have > that man power and the user base to do the same. > > Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would > be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have > no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article > for Handbook. Since it has been some time since I tried to get HPLIP to work with my computer, I am going to attempt it again. If I am successful, I will post something about it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 04:07:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4D816A41A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD76E13C45B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:07:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1DSj-0007R4-9R for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:08:23 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1DSH-0007Ql-A3; Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:07:49 -0700 Message-ID: <475B69C5.8070100@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:06:29 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pollywog , questions@freebsd.org References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712090251.35010.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B605B.8060601@math.arizona.edu> <200712090401.58411.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200712090401.58411.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:07:13 -0000 Pollywog wrote: > On Sunday 09 December 2007 03:26:19 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> Pollywog wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 09 December 2007 02:17:21 Predrag Punosevac wrote: >>> >>>> Saned (Sane Daemon) is included in the standard distribution of >>>> sane-backhands. I checked sane-utils on the Debian web-site and seems it >>>> is just idiotic GUI. >>>> >>> I was using Debian and I now use Ubuntu and FreeBSD. The sane-utils >>> package contains files that I edit in order to have the ability to scan >>> from any machine on my LAN that runs Linux. The files are >>> /etc/sane.d/dll.conf and also saned.conf and net.conf in the same >>> directory. >>> >> Then look the /usr/local/etc/sane.d You already have all files you need >> to have. >> >> >> Debian is known for fine grinding of packages so I would not be >> surprised that they divided generic sane-backhand package in several part. >> That is a very good practice but unfortunately FreeBSD does not have >> that man power and the user base to do the same. >> >> Would you be so kind than to write how to for network scanning. It would >> be very good if you could append Handbook article about scanning. I have >> no clue whom you should contact with the offer to contribute the article >> for Handbook. >> > > Since it has been some time since I tried to get HPLIP to work with my > computer, I am going to attempt it again. If I am successful, I will post > something about it. > HPLIP works like a charm on FreeBSD http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd I thought we were discussing sane-backhands and network scanning. Best, Predrag > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 04:30:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268AE16A420 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F32C513C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A851C482FD for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C2CB846 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:30:05 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:29:47 +0000 References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712090401.58411.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B69C5.8070100@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475B69C5.8070100@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712090429.49397.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:30:08 -0000 On Sunday 09 December 2007 04:06:29 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > I thought we were discussing sane-backhands and network scanning. Don't I need HPLIP in order to get my printer (scanning) to work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 04:32:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A97116A41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:32:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E716813C44B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:32:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0619C485AA for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2007 23:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66959B846 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:32:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 04:32:21 +0000 References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <200712090401.58411.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <475B69C5.8070100@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475B69C5.8070100@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712090432.22523.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 04:32:40 -0000 On Sunday 09 December 2007 04:06:29 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > HPLIP works like a charm on FreeBSD > http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd Thanks for that, unfortunately it indicates that this is going to be more difficult for me than I thought, because I will need to recompile my kernel and I have not done this in FreeBSD yet. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 05:28:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3080716A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 05:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B55F13C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 05:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-75-36-249-166.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [75.36.249.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lB95Rw4E083672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:27:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <475B7D0B.9030201@monkeybrains.net> Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:28:43 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rudy References: <475B63D7.9010907@monkeybrains.net> In-Reply-To: <475B63D7.9010907@monkeybrains.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 05:28:00 -0000 After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better phrase my question: how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? Rudy > here is the output of /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at memory > 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v > channels duplex default) > pcm1: at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) > mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 06:39:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F1B16A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:39:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp6.server.rpi.edu (smtp6.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2E613C461 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 06:39:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gad@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp6.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB95QpVE027418; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:26:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <475B0775.9010008@math.arizona.edu> References: <475B0775.9010008@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 00:26:50 -0500 To: Predrag Punosevac , questions@FreeBSD.org From: Garance A Drosehn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.226 Cc: Subject: Re: LPRng question and printing in general X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:39:29 -0000 At 2:07 PM -0700 12/8/07, Predrag Punosevac wrote: >I would like to ask people who use LPRng spooling system on FreeBSD >to clarify something for me. I have never used LPRng in production, although I know the guys in our (RPI) CS department used to use it for their printing world. >I also noticed that PDQ project is completely abandoned by its >creator. Also LPRng was abandoned by its creator in 2005 and then >picked by somebody else. Hmm. I haven't used LPRng in awhile, but I used to pay attention to the mailing list. The web site: http://www.lprng.com/ seems relevant, and talks about Patrick Powell as the author, and according to that web page the most recent update is 12 Sep 2007 (for LPRng-3.8.32). I'm pretty sure that Patrick has always been the driving force behind LPRng. Perhaps it is the FreeBSD port for building LPRng which has seen someone new pick it up? Patrick wouldn't be responsible for our OS-specific port. >Is FreeBSD printing essentially reduced to LPD+apsfilter for small >to medium print networks and CUPS for very complex printing networks >or LPRng is alive and well. Heh. Well, I run a pretty complicated printing environment here at RPI, based on FreeBSD's lpr and a bunch of custom changes to CAP. Works well for us, but it probably wouldn't work well for most people. Hopefully I'll get back to merging some of RPI changes back into FreeBSD's lpr. >I tried to get into LPRng mailing lists but they seems are not >active any more. I'm not sure what happened to those. I used to be on them, but every once-in-awhile the mailing list software would complain that our (RPI) mail hub was rejecting mail, and would drop me from the mailing list. After the fourth or fifth time this happened, I stopped adding myself back onto the list. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = drosehn@rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@FreeBSD.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 07:40:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08CDD16A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640EA13C468 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id SAA00905; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:36:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:36:09 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Predrag Punosevac In-Reply-To: <20071209021807.60EFF16A480@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:40:03 -0000 On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:18:25 -0700 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > Folks, > > > > IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > > on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. > > The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things > > CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. [..] > I wrote K3b how to > http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b > but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it. > > Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak > Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important > steps you need to do. > > Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with > > atapicam_load="YES" > hw.ata.ata_dma="1" > hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" > > since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD > > > Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those > are needed for a work station anyway > > perm /dev/acd0 0666 > perm /dev/cd0 0666 I'm more comfortable with putting users in a group (operator, burner, whatever) and setting perms to 660 .. but anyway .. > # Commonly used by many ports > > link cd0 cdrom > link cd0 dvd > link cd0 rdvd > > link acd0 cdrom > link acd0 dvd > link acd0 rdvd All good stuff, but just one point that Roland Smith picked up on in another incarnation of this topic recently .. 'link' in devfs makes a symlink in /dev, and you can't make two symlinks with the same name. On my 5.5-S system I'd long had in devfs.conf: link acd0 cdrom link cd0 cdrom but ls -l /dev/cdrom shows lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4 Nov 28 01:27 /dev/cdrom -> acd0 so it seems the first link is made and any subsequent silently ignored (or at least, I haven't spotted any console messages complaining of it) > # Misc other devices > > perm cdrom 0666 > perm dvd 0666 > perm rdvd 0666 > perm xpt0 0666 > perm pass0 0666 > > > Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user > since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you > > > [pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab > #These are my options > /dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 > /dev/acd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 > > > > You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart. > > > Also read > > make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b If I ever get a DVD writer and want to try k3b, I'll start here thanks. Cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 08:54:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C032716A41A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02B9D13C467 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:54:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 32575 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2007 08:54:20 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 9 Dec 2007 08:54:17 -0000 Message-ID: <475BAD2B.3060801@pacific.net.sg> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:54:03 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Gao References: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> In-Reply-To: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find out when a package is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:54:24 -0000 Hi, pkg_info | grep name or whereis name /var/db/pkd contains for every installed port an enry. Isn't the date the date of the first installation of this package? Erich Simon Gao wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a command that can help find out when a package is > installed/compiled? Or what options should I give to pkg_info to find > out installation date? > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 08:54:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F151516A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BB913C447 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:54:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51433F6156; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:54:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from Llea.celt.neu (ron34-3-82-236-236-194.fbx.proxad.net [82.236.236.194]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58AB53F6198; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:54:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from Llea.celt.neu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Llea.celt.neu (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB990d1X001083; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:00:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) Received: (from michael@localhost) by Llea.celt.neu (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lB990bG7001082; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:00:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michael.grunewald@laposte.net) X-Authentication-Warning: Llea.celt.neu: michael set sender to michael.grunewald@laposte.net using -f To: Predrag Punosevac References: <4757979F.5020109@highperformance.net> <4757B9CC.4030600@math.arizona.edu> <86wsrpaao5.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> <475A6CEA.8040500@math.arizona.edu> <86hcitysv2.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> <475AFAF6.7070406@math.arizona.edu> From: michael.grunewald@laposte.net (=?iso-8859-15?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?=) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:00:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <475AFAF6.7070406@math.arizona.edu> (Predrag Punosevac's message of "Sat\, 08 Dec 2007 13\:13\:42 -0700") Message-ID: <86d4tg44zu.fsf@Llea.celt.neu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: =?iso-8859-15?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?= , "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: Scanner Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:54:38 -0000 Predrag Punosevac writes: >> If I do understand, this seems a close analogue of PPL files in the >> printing world, right? > You meant PPD files? Yes that's what I meant! >> In fact, I have no serious reason to run amd64 since I use my amd64 >> computer as a ``user workstation'' and the main benefit from running >> amd64 is to manage huge amounts of RAM --- as far as I can tell from >> the various docs I have read. My reasons to run amd64 are mainly geeky >> or childish :) >>=20=20=20 > I hope you do not have 32 Gb of RAM as my neighbor who is a gamer and > passionately in love with > Windows Vista:-) On another hand those gamers are the reason that I > can go to junk yard and get a > PIII with 512 Mb of RAM and 10Gb Hard-drive for $5. I am a happy > camper! The only reason I disregarded my K2-400 with 128 Mo (from'97) in favor to a somewhat new material was that PostScript/PDF rendering was way too slow on the former machine. I am mainly working with Emacs, producing TeX documents and OCaml programs. For these activities $5 computers are excellent! --=20 All the best, Micha=EBl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 09:46:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090116A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBBE13C458 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB99YIDH004624; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:34:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lB99YHRm004623; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:34:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:34:17 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Predrag Punosevac Message-ID: <20071209093417.GA4442@thought.org> References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <20071208215715.GA1543@thought.org> <475B5710.1040403@math.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475B5710.1040403@math.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:46:42 -0000 On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 07:46:40PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > > >>Gary Kline wrote: > >> > >>> Folks, > >>> > >>> IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > >>> on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. > >>> The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things > >>> CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. > >>> > >>> That said, first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please > >>> post it; or send it privately. I just bought some "Memorex > >>> DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD. > >>> On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes > >>> in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on. > >>> Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing > >>> this professioally recorded disc? Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat > >>> I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD? > >>> > >>> gary > >>> > >>> PS: I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff > >>> since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>I wrote K3b how to > >>http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b > >>but you will need little bit of Serbian language to read it. > >> > > > > > > Actually, my best friend for > 30 years comes from [ what was ] > > Yugoslavia; so he could surely help me with the translation. > > > > I think I have the k3b stuff actually workinng. As of late FFriday > > night, k3b ran thru all of its tests. That wasn't my question. > > I want to know > > more about what DVD blanks are good,better,best, and whether it is > > worth "wasting" a blank DVD in trying to copy a DVD that I borrowed > > from the library. > > > > I've googled arouund, tryiiing to get some kind of specs that an > > EE can understand ... even if he kknows nothing about figital > > video. > > > > > I think that duplicating DVDs works like a charm on FreeBSD but I think > there is a better software in ports for that of K3b which is > kind a all in one generic GUI application. This is also a useful link > http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html if you are trying to > understand DVD business. There are definitely people on this mailing > list or on OpenBSD mailing list (I do not remember any more as I am on > both mailing lists) who have fantastic knowledge of DVD writable medias, > proprietary Video Formats and various issues that come with that including > the issues of regional coding and by that I do not mean just USA vs > Europe or Asia. Even inside of U. S. where I have being g living for the > past 12 years there are many different regional formats. I am clueless > about it. > Hm. There is a new protocol, DVD-ROM (or perhaps it was DVD-CDROM); so if there are even *more*, I'd be spinning my wheel s, trying to figure this stuff out in any depth. > As a mathematician I am probably much less capable of understanding DVD > technical issues than you. > Isn't it more a matter of personal interest and time? I love math --and several other fields as well--but given the limitations we all have, learning sufficiently well (not to mention keeping-current:-), should give everyone pause. --Then there is the matter of living Life, and blah-blah-blah. Re the DVD stuff, I'd be happy to know some of the boundary conditions. And more practice and testing than theory. > To be perfectly honest as a professional mathematician I am very > concern with the status of TeX port and the fact that two years after > teTeX was abolished by TeX community in favor of TeXLive there are no > even indication that the TeXLive will be ported to FreeBSD. Even in the > most crude form (4 packages) as it is done in OpenBSD would be better > than noting. Of course the Debian way (30 or so packages) would be my > preferable way as TeXLive is developing really rapidly in some areas. > My knowledge of porting is unfortunately inadequate to be able to help > with such a major project. > teTeX is dead? After I met Don Knuth I really got into his stuff. But then, as mentioned above, LIFE hit me over the head, &c. FWIW, Someone friom the OOo list posted a math site a couple days ago. The site deals with some of the things that may interest you. I'll find it--this one I moused and clicked nd snagged. Or then again, if DEbian has the new TeX packages, our FBSD Linux support would do. ... . ciao, gary > > Cheers, > Predrag > > > > > > > > thanks for your email; it was one of the postings that helped me > > get atapicam stuff *working* > > > > :-) > > > > gary > > > > > > > >>Actually probably you could follow article even if you do not speak > >>Serbian as the language is generic and there are only three important > >>steps you need to do. > >> > >>Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with > >> > >>atapicam_load="YES" > >>hw.ata.ata_dma="1" > >>hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" > >> > >>since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD > >> > >> > >>Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. Most of those > >>are needed for a work station anyway > >> > >>perm /dev/acd0 0666 > >>perm /dev/cd0 0666 > >> > >># Commonly used by many ports > >> > >>link cd0 cdrom > >>link cd0 dvd > >>link cd0 rdvd > >> > >>link acd0 cdrom > >>link acd0 dvd > >>link acd0 rdvd > >> > >># Misc other devices > >> > >>perm cdrom 0666 > >>perm dvd 0666 > >>perm rdvd 0666 > >>perm xpt0 0666 > >>perm pass0 0666 > >> > >> > >>Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b as a normal user > >>since the disk has to be mounted on the mount point which belong to you > >> > >> > >>[pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab > >>#These are my options > >>/dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 > >>/dev/acd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 > >> > >> > >> > >>You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going to heart. > >> > >> > >>Also read > >> > >>make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b > >> > >>Best, > >>Predrag > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 09:51:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B6616A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-92.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-92.bluehost.com [69.89.24.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8590F13C448 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 11990 invoked by uid 0); 9 Dec 2007 09:51:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2007 09:51:49 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1IpA-00014c-TC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:51:49 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB99qP0b001408 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:52:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lB99qOZE001407 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:52:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:52:24 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071209095224.GA98159@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [737 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:51:49 -0000 On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:59:08PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > > I don't know if any of you guys or gals are Gamers.... But just in > case I also installed Halo in Wine and it runs about the same > on FreeBSD as it does on Linux. With D3D, DDraw and OpenGL working > most every game that is running in Wine should run > on FreeBSD.. I don't know this as fact as I've only tried one Game and > four Benchmarks, but it does look promising. I play WoW a bit. Around here, we (my SigO and I) have only gotten so far as getting it running on Linux. I had a machine lying around I was going to try to get running FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE not long ago, and see if getting WoW working was as good on FreeBSD as on Debian GNU/Linux. Unfortunately, the machine appears to have developed some hardware issues in the couple months it lay dormant, so that project is off until: A. I get a new machine working, B. I nail down the specific issues with this one and get it working, or C. it becomes eas[y|ier] to get 3D acceleration working with a Radeon. Assuming one of those things happens, I hope I remember to report back in this thread. Thanks for the links. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Phillip J. Haack: "Productivity is not about speed. It's about velocity. You can be fast, but if you're going in the wrong direction, you're not helping anyone." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 09:55:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392E916A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53BF13C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB99tWJB004986; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:55:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lB99tVVK004985; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:55:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 01:55:31 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20071209095531.GC4442@thought.org> References: <20071208225922.GA87562@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071208225922.GA87562@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:55:34 -0000 On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:59:22PM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > > on my bsd virtual site. > > K3b certainly works to burn CDs and DVDs under FreeBSD. I have used > it many times on several burners. Of course you need to kldload > atapicam for that. What does not work on any of my burners is burncd. I've only burned CDs on my Ubuntu platform. Are your necessay binaries chmod'd suid? that I missed until Saturday afternoon. > By the way if you want to copy 8 Gigs DVD on 4 Gigs DVD, i can recommend > you k9copy, which is fantastic. Does as well as dvdshrink, and very > fast. > If these are ports, I'll build them, thanks much, gary PS: To the list: is there any "extended play" alogrithm that has the least loss? > -- > > Michel TALON > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 10:10:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7852E16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F1613C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lB9AApEd005052; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lB9AAoab005051; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 02:10:50 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Malcolm Kay Message-ID: <20071209101050.GD4442@thought.org> References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <200712091356.55929.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712091356.55929.malcolm.kay@internode.on.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:10:53 -0000 On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 01:56:55PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:33 am, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > > on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. > > The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things > > CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. > > > I don't use k3b so what capability it has is not known to me. So far I've only used it to burn CD's; beyond that ... . > > > That said, first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please > > post it; or send it privately. I just bought some "Memorex > > DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD. > > On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes > > in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on. > > The nominal capacity of the single sided DVD is 120 minutes but some 32 > different definitions are recognised including: > EP -- extended play - 360 minutes > LP -- long play - 240 minutes > SP -- standard play - 120 minutes > FINE - 60 minutes > But how are you getting your source? What definition is it in? The back of the disc says: "Aprox 117 minutes"; so evidently it was mastered in SP. If there are *32* defs, man, I miht as well throw in the towel and go back to my Shostakovich. (Unless these definitions are largely air (== "PR stuff, aka hype). > > > Nutshell: how good will k3b and my Pioneer burner do on dubbing > > this professioally recorded disc? > > As I've already said I know little of k3b but you'll probably need some sort > of authoring/editing software and possibly another package for compression/definition > conversion. > > > Also, Does thw "RW" mean tthat > > I can re-tape over this with another edu DVD? > > Yes, it means that the total disk can be rewritten -- but the ability to > edit without rewriting all can be quite limited. And RW disks can have a > rather limited rewrite life -- some 10s of times. Thanks for your datapoints. The URL that Predrag posted ought to give more pointers. gary > > > > gary > > > > PS: I much prefer analogue cassettes; I've been taping stuff > > since I taped "American Bandstand" off the TV :-) > > EP or LP modes with 6 or 4 hour capacity would probably both cater for a > better quality than your analogue cassettes. > > > > > > > > > > > Malcolm -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 11:58:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED3316A41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:58:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104EB13C457 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.67) with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1J1Ko9-0004FI-J5>; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:58:53 +0100 Received: from e178034045.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.34.45] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.67) with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1J1Ko9-0006Dx-Gk>; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:58:53 +0100 Message-ID: <475BD8AF.4060904@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:59:43 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071118) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-openoffice@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.34.45 Cc: Subject: OO 2.3.1 connecting a PostgreSQL 8.2 server via SSL and postgresql-odbc? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:58:55 -0000 I need to connect to a remote PostgreSQL-Server accepting SSL connections via OO 2.3.1. I installed ports/database/postgresql-odbc utilizing unixODBC for that purpose but I do not have any success connecting the Postgresql server due to the lack of SSL-capability in the postgresql-odbc-driver. Tried a MySQL test setup using mysql-connector-odbc and this worked over SSL for me (ldd shows libssl being compiled in in myodbc, but not compiled in using postgresql-odbc). Does anyone out here solved this problem? Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 12:27:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645DF16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:27:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liettneff@bk.ru) Received: from cny.innet.yaroslavl.su (cny.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.134.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C2B313C459 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from liettneff@bk.ru) Received: from tac.innet.yaroslavl.su (tac.innet.yaroslavl.su [217.15.135.68]) by cny.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id lB9C07013934 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:00:07 +0300 (MSK) Received: from reaper.yaroslavl.ru (reaper.yaroslavl.ru [85.113.202.195]) by tac.innet.yaroslavl.su (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id lB9BxYLV058652 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:59:45 +0300 (MSK) Received: from comp-reaper (comp-reaper [10.19.1.3]) by reaper.yaroslavl.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9F122864 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:58:42 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:59:49 +0300 From: Michael Lednev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.29) Professional Organization: none X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <729137585.20071209145949@bk.ru> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: ndis + broadcom wifi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Michael Lednev List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:27:43 -0000 Hello, freebsd-questions. I have Acer Extensa 5220 laptop with broadcom wifi inside: card=0x04221468 chip=0x431114e4 I tried to compile NDIS driver for it, unsuccessfuly :( Drivers' versions was 4.100.15.5 from Acer and 4.150.22.0 from Broadcom. ndisgen fails to compile kernel module saying: In file included from /usr/share/misc/windrv_stub.c:57: ./windrv.h:1831: error: excess elements in char array initializer ./windrv.h:1831: error: (near initialization for 'ndis_regvals[590].nc_val') ./windrv.h:1832: warning: braces around scalar initializer ./windrv.h:1832: warning: (near initialization for 'ndis_regvals[590].nc_val[0]') ./windrv.h:1832: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast ./windrv.h:1832: error: initializer element is not computable at load time ./windrv.h:1832: error: (near initialization for 'ndis_regvals[590].nc_val[0]') ./windrv.h:1832: error: excess elements in struct initializer ./windrv.h:1832: error: (near initialization for 'ndis_regvals[590].nc_val') ./windrv.h:1832: error: excess elements in struct initializer ./windrv.h:1832: error: (near initialization for 'ndis_regvals[590].nc_val') and so on (about 2000 lines). Complete error message can be found on http://pastebin.com/f55202bbb Have anyone managed to get this wireless card working and what drivers should be used for it? -- Best regards, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 13:33:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70A416A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from mail.sagedata.net (mail.sagedata.net [63.214.156.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0B313C4DB for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 13:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) Received: from sagesuper (sageweb.net [65.68.247.73]) by mail.sagedata.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with SMTP id lB9DC4vc035950; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:12:04 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jacks@sage-american.com) X-Authentication-Warning: mail.sagedata.net: Host sageweb.net [65.68.247.73] claimed to be sagesuper Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20071209065615.0121a7d8@sagedata.net> X-Sender: jacks@sagedata.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:56:15 -0600 To: jekillen , "Christian Walther" From: "Jack L. Stone" In-Reply-To: References: <14989d6e0712081221s7997cbb6jfafcc7a0ccb6d2b2@mail.gmail.com> <31322205af1848d55900544163c31dd3@prodigy.net> <14989d6e0712081221s7997cbb6jfafcc7a0ccb6d2b2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Scanned-By: milter-spamc/1.13.385 (mail.sagedata.net [63.214.156.21]); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:12:05 -0600 X-Scanned-By: milter-sender/1.16.915 (mail.sagedata.net [63.214.156.21]); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 07:12:04 -0600 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5056/Sun Dec 9 04:55:13 2007 on mail.sagedata.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: NO, hits=-15.00 required=4.90 X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-15.0 points, 4.9 required) | | pts rule name description | ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- | -15 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP | Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: relay host in sendmail? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:33:15 -0000 At 01:45 PM 12.8.2007 -0800, jekillen wrote: > >On Dec 8, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Christian Walther wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On 08/12/2007, jekillen wrote: >>> Hello: >>> I am using Absolute BSD, Second Ed. >>> and am looking in the section on Sendmail. >>> I cannot find where to specify a relay host. >>> I have a hosts that originate mail to remote >>> recipients but use a mail hub (Postfix) on >>> another machine on local network to >>> relay this mail to the outside. It is not spam. >>> These messages will be used to verify web >>> client supplied e-mail addresses. >>> Thank you in advance; >>> Jeff K >>> >> >> you can specify a smart host in sendmail.mc (or the mc-file created >> for your host). The macro you need is already in there, you just need >> to uncomment it. It's something like: >> >> dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately >> define(`SMART_HOST', `your.relay.host') >> >This looks like it is for dial up modem connection to an isp's mail >servers. >But I do not see why it would not work for a relay host on the local >network. >I have static ip addresses on DSL service. I will have to refresh my >memory >on what is a smart host. This relay host would also relay the response >to an >email verification message back to the originating host. And I am >guessing >that would be a virtual domain alias in the relay host. I am learning >as I go >along. >Thank you for your help. Much appreciated >Jeff K > Consider using the mailertable for this. There is a sample file in /etc/mail. (^_^) Happy trails, Jack L. 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I wonder which linux app works on freebsd, thank you!! TFC From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 14:15:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E93A16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from web31.pochta.ru (web31.pochta.ru [82.204.219.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C81613C45A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:15:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by web31.pochta.ru ( sendmail 8.13.3/8.13.1) with esmtp id 1J1Mwb-0009nA-FA; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:15:45 +0300 Message-ID: <20071209171545.40k6zb91k4gwso8s@www.pochta.ru> X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:15:45 +0300 From: Playnet To: Wojciech Puchar References: <20071206023947.67okz87czocwcs0g@www.pochta.ru> <20071206123739.N19203@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071206123739.N19203@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Free mail service Pochta.ru; WebMail Client; Account: playnet@mail333.com X-Proxy-IP: [77.241.36.3] X-Originating-IP: [77.241.36.3] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:34:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Plaintext Version of Message X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with network card in P35+ICH9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:15:48 -0000 I think yes. Probably i have Gigabyte GA-P35-S3R (Realtek RTL8111B PCI-E (GbE) in S3R, my model i check tomorrow) > is your phy (mii) detected OK? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 15:01:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB5716A41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from web27.pochta.ru (web27.pochta.ru [82.204.219.127]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9CD13C4D1 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from playnet@mail333.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=localhost) by web27.pochta.ru ( sendmail 8.13.3/8.13.1) with esmtp id 1J1NdR-0001ab-QK; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:00:01 +0300 Message-ID: <20071209180001.8xn9tze8owskckss@www.pochta.ru> X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:00:01 +0300 From: Playnet To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <20071206023947.67okz87czocwcs0g@www.pochta.ru> <4757535C.5020500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4757535C.5020500@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Free mail service Pochta.ru; WebMail Client; Account: playnet@mail333.com X-Proxy-IP: [77.241.36.3] X-Originating-IP: [77.241.36.3] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:09:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: Plaintext Version of Message X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem with network card in P35+ICH9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:01:07 -0000 > > I have a server based gigabyte MB with core2 quadro, > P35+ICH9 > > From the below let me guess it is in the MSI Neo familiy of > Mobo's.... > you will want the following patches for re: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/re/re.HEAD.patch > > If I am right about the Mobo you should also be getting > mismatching > reports on your SATA drives as well the inablity to have > SATA and > PATA > together you will want the following patches to fix that: > http://www.flosoft-systems.com/patchs/ahci.diff > http://www.flosoft-systems.com/patchs/i82801-marvell.diff > Patch for RE not compiling.. When these pathes will be included in the kernel? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 15:12:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC3F16A41A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) Received: from n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (smtpout0142.sc1.he.tucows.com [64.97.136.142]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86C013C448 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) Received: from sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (64.97.139.2) by n064.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 47586C8900057590 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:45:38 +0000 X-SpamScore: 50 X-Spamcatcher-Summary: 50, 0, 0, dd6aeca80f928fe1, ddd76dbcbc57a7e7, kneel.pardoe@virgin.net, -, RULES_HIT:355:379:599:601:945:946:966:967:973:980:988:989:1260:1261:1277:1311:1312:1313:1314:1345:1358:1359:1437:1513:1515:1516:1518:1519:1521:1534:1542:1593:1594:1595:1596:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:1981:2194:2196:2199:2200:2393:2525:2551:2553:2560:2563:2682:2685:2693:2828:2857:2859:2902:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3027:3355:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:3873:3934:3936: 3938:3941:3944:4250:4362:4385:5007:6117:6119:6120:7652:7679, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none X-Spamcatcher-Explanation: Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [64.97.206.40]) (Authenticated sender: kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) by sc1-out03.emaildefenseservice.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:45:38 +0000 (UTC) From: neal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:45:22 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:12:52 -0000 On Saturday 08 December 2007, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > I wrote K3b how to > http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_ >cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b but you will need little > bit of Serbian language to read it. > > Actually probably you could follow article even if you do > not speak Serbian as the language is generic and there > are only three important steps you need to do. > > Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with > > atapicam_load=3D"YES" > hw.ata.ata_dma=3D"1" > hw.ata.atapi_dma=3D"1" > > since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD > > > Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. > Most of those are needed for a work station anyway > > perm =A0 =A0 =A0/dev/acd0 =A0 0666 > perm =A0 =A0 =A0/dev/cd0 =A0 =A00666 > > # Commonly used by many ports > =A0 =A0 > link =A0cd0 cdrom > link =A0cd0 =A0dvd > link =A0cd0 =A0rdvd > > link =A0acd0 cdrom > link =A0acd0 dvd > link =A0acd0 rdvd > > # Misc other devices > > perm =A0 =A0cdrom =A0 0666 > perm =A0 =A0dvd =A0 =A0 0666 > perm =A0 =A0rdvd =A0 =A00666 > perm =A0 =A0xpt0 =A0 =A00666 > perm =A0 =A0pass0 =A0 0666 > > > Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b > as a normal user since the disk has to be mounted on the > mount point which belong to you > > > [pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab > #These are my options > /dev/cd0 =A0 =A0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 =A0 rw, > noauto =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 =A0 0 /dev/acd0 =A0 > =A0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 =A0 rw, noauto =A0 =A0 =A00 =A0 =A0 > =A0 0 > > > > You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going > to heart. > > > Also read > > make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b > > Best, > Predrag Thanks for posting this Predrag. I have had unsolvable (so far) problems with playing both=20 dvd movies and cd audio. MPlayer will play VOBs but no=20 menus, no navigation which can make watching pretty much=20 impossible sometimes.=20 I had actually given up on trying to get these two features=20 to work and have installed a new linux (to me), Kubuntu. On=20 this platform, there are no problems with DVD movies, audio=20 cd, streamed audio, even flash. I can watch youtube too.=20 This has not been the case on FreeBSD. I have tried=20 installing FreeBSD 6.2 via three different versions,=20 =46reeBSD, DesktopBSD and PCBSD, and asked questions on their=20 mailing lists.=20 But I do like many things about BSD and would like to be=20 able to move to it completely when I can have these=20 features working correctly, so I will try your suggestions=20 above and see what happens. neal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 15:36:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BD616A469 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C71813C459 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu ([151.77.240.163]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB9Faf5a070717 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:36:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lB9Fa6T3039781 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:36:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <475C0B52.1000108@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:35:46 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: SAS Controller again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:36:02 -0000 Hello. In my search for a SAS controller, I've been offered an Adaptec ASR3405 or ASR3805. These are not supported in 6.2R, but it looks like they will be in upcoming 6.3R by the aac driver. I'd like to know about ground experiences with these cards. Do they work well? Does aaccli allow for production-time online check and array rebuild? Any trouble? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 16:26:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A2716A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBC413C45B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:26:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EC5BAACE1A; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:26:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.188.235] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J1Oyt-0002FI-00; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:26:15 +0100 Message-ID: <475C175B.6080001@web.de> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:27:07 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neal References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Y2oEKnLjxCSA39fMbJasXhDrr8x4dS/BRtUHH YzUJhKKCXZe6cUCvB+LpxAbE3Ie5xaKjR+elVb//bqzYHF8hdZ NnzpnwCnI= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:26:17 -0000 neal schrieb: > I have had unsolvable (so far) problems with playing both > dvd movies and cd audio. MPlayer will play VOBs but no > menus, no navigation which can make watching pretty much > impossible sometimes. > > I had actually given up on trying to get these two features > to work and have installed a new linux (to me), Kubuntu. On > this platform, there are no problems with DVD movies, audio > cd, streamed audio, even flash. I can watch youtube too. > This has not been the case on FreeBSD. I have tried > installing FreeBSD 6.2 via three different versions, > FreeBSD, DesktopBSD and PCBSD, and asked questions on their > mailing lists. > > Try to install www/linux-opera, audio/vlc for DVDs and www/linux-flashplugin7 for flash. That should give you ability to watch DVD and flash... (works for me...) Greez, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 16:31:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6AA16A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:31:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.245]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B6F13C46B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:31:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so354702anc for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.91.17 with SMTP id o17mr13014787anb.1197217889127; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm2686716agc.2007.12.09.08.31.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:31:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:31:40 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071209113136.A8E1.B2AE1FB7@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.43 [en] Subject: Error message with "denyhosts" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:31:31 -0000 I just installed 'denyhosts' on a FBSD-6.2 machine. I thought I had followed the directions correctly, however, I continually see an error message popping up on the screen. This is a line fro the /var/log/auth.log file. Dec 9 10:56:01 scorpio sshd[1477]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 1: missing ":" separator This is the top of my /stc/hosts file: /sshd # # hosts.allow access control file for "tcp wrapped" applications. # $FreeBSD: src/etc/hosts.allow,v 1.19.8.1 2006/02/19 14:57:01 ume Exp $ # # NOTE: The hosts.deny file is deprecated. # Place both 'allow' and 'deny' rules in the hosts.allow file. # See hosts_options(5) for the format of this file. # hosts_access(5) no longer fully applies. # _____ _ _ # | ____| __ __ __ _ _ __ ___ _ __ | | ___ | | # | _| \ \/ / / _` | | '_ ` _ \ | '_ \ | | / _ \ | | # | |___ > < | (_| | | | | | | | | |_) | | | | __/ |_| # |_____| /_/\_\ \__,_| |_| |_| |_| | .__/ |_| \___| (_) # |_| # !!! This is an example! You will need to modify it for your specific # !!! requirements! # Start by allowing everything (this prevents the rest of the file # from working, so remove it when you need protection). # The rules here work on a "First match wins" basis. sshd : /etc/hosts.deniedssh : deny sshd : ALL : allow ALL : ALL : allow All I added were the two lines preceding "ALL : ALL : allow". What could be causing this problem? I don't seem to be missing any ":" separators. Thanks! -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 16:47:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF9016A46B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73AD813C4D5 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 16:47:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1PJN-0005sw-FJ for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:47:32 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1PJD-0005sJ-LK; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:47:15 -0700 Message-ID: <475C1C0D.5020706@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:47:09 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tsu-Fan Cheng , questions@freebsd.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: Subject: Re: internet/p2p TV X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:47:35 -0000 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi, > I like to watch some TV over the internet, on windows, there are > ppstream, pplive, etc. and there are a couple running on linux. I > wonder which linux app works on freebsd, thank you!! > > TFC > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > tunapie and miro (still not in ports but look the mail archive ) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 17:04:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE3E116A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85F013C4CC for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:04:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050E348359 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F47B83F for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:04:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:04:23 +0000 References: <475B00EA.2000208@math.arizona.edu> <475B69C5.8070100@math.arizona.edu> <200712090432.22523.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> In-Reply-To: <200712090432.22523.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712091704.25053.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: SANE Network Daemon question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:04:30 -0000 On Sunday 09 December 2007 04:32:21 Pollywog wrote: > On Sunday 09 December 2007 04:06:29 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > > HPLIP works like a charm on FreeBSD > > http://dsteinbrook.googlepages.com/hpliponfreebsd > > Thanks for that, unfortunately it indicates that this is going to be more > difficult for me than I thought, because I will need to recompile my kernel > and I have not done this in FreeBSD yet. I recompiled the kernel and it was much easier than in Linux. When the moment of truth came, the machine did boot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 17:04:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C95416A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB9B13C4E5 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:04:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1Pb9-00080Z-Pq for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:05:53 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1Pb0-00080G-ON; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:05:38 -0700 Message-ID: <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:04:20 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: neal References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> In-Reply-To: <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:04:43 -0000 neal wrote: > On Saturday 08 December 2007, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> I wrote K3b how to >> http://www.bsd-srbija.org/dokumentacija/doku.php/rezanje_ >> cd_i_dvd_diskova_pomo%C4%87u_k3b but you will need little >> bit of Serbian language to read it. >> >> Actually probably you could follow article even if you do >> not speak Serbian as the language is generic and there >> are only three important steps you need to do. >> >> Step 1 Editing your /boot/loader.conf file with >> >> atapicam_load="YES" >> hw.ata.ata_dma="1" >> hw.ata.atapi_dma="1" >> >> since FreeBSD is using atapicam device to write DVD >> >> >> Step 2 Edit your /etc/devfs.conf with various permission. >> Most of those are needed for a work station anyway >> >> perm /dev/acd0 0666 >> perm /dev/cd0 0666 >> >> # Commonly used by many ports >> >> link cd0 cdrom >> link cd0 dvd >> link cd0 rdvd >> >> link acd0 cdrom >> link acd0 dvd >> link acd0 rdvd >> >> # Misc other devices >> >> perm cdrom 0666 >> perm dvd 0666 >> perm rdvd 0666 >> perm xpt0 0666 >> perm pass0 0666 >> >> >> Step 3 Edit your /etc/fstab file if you want to use K3b >> as a normal user since the disk has to be mounted on the >> mount point which belong to you >> >> >> [pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /etc/fstab >> #These are my options >> /dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, >> noauto 0 0 /dev/acd0 >> /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 >> 0 >> >> >> >> You do not need HAL for things to work but is not going >> to heart. >> >> >> Also read >> >> make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b >> >> Best, >> Predrag >> > > Thanks for posting this Predrag. > > I have had unsolvable (so far) problems with playing both > dvd movies and cd audio. MPlayer will play VOBs but no > menus, no navigation which can make watching pretty much > impossible sometimes. > > I had actually given up on trying to get these two features > to work and have installed a new linux (to me), Kubuntu. On > this platform, there are no problems with DVD movies, audio > cd, streamed audio, even flash. I can watch youtube too. > This has not been the case on FreeBSD. I have tried > installing FreeBSD 6.2 via three different versions, > FreeBSD, DesktopBSD and PCBSD, and asked questions on their > mailing lists. > > My Dear Friend, You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the above except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for FreeBSD) works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just use youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video games full of Flash! The only reason they didn't work for you is that you didn't know how to set up those features. Never the less if you fell more comfortably with Kubuntu stick with it. FreeBSD is not platform for everything and everyone. Personally, I find myself using more and more OpenBSD. So you have to use OS you are comfortable with and has a features you most desire (in my case enhanced security). Best, Predrag > But I do like many things about BSD and would like to be > able to move to it completely when I can have these > features working correctly, so I will try your suggestions > above and see what happens. > > neal. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 17:32:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3E216A468 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792D013C45A for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:32:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE3548637 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99049B83F for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:32:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:31:59 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: question about ordering of lines in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:32:05 -0000 It appears that the order of the *_enable="YES" lines in /etc/rc.conf is important. I am looking at a HOWTO for HPLIP in which the author suggests adding two lines in a certain order. Since I recently had a problem with jabberd starting before myslq was ready to accept connections and I just found that jabberd_enable="YES" precedes mysql_enable="YES" in my rc.conf, I am wondering whether order is important. Can anyone provide an answer? I solved the problem I was having with jabberd but in a different way. thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 17:35:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1696D16A41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from mg7.xecu.net (mg7.xecu.net [216.127.136.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E351113C44B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:35:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mg7.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2546A68C3 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:14:30 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xecu.net Received: from mg7.xecu.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mg7.xecu.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cp+Fw5zHctVu for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:14:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.xecu.net (shell.xecu.net [216.127.136.216]) by mg7.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478B66A69C4 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:14:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:14:10 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071209113136.A8E1.B2AE1FB7@seibercom.net> Message-ID: <20071209121222.C85556@shell.xecu.net> References: <20071209113136.A8E1.B2AE1FB7@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Error message with "denyhosts" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:35:41 -0000 On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Gerard wrote: > I just installed 'denyhosts' on a FBSD-6.2 machine. I thought I had followed > the directions correctly, however, I continually see an error message popping > up on the screen. This is a line fro the /var/log/auth.log file. > > > Dec 9 10:56:01 scorpio sshd[1477]: warning: /etc/hosts.allow, line 1: missing ":" separator > > This is the top of my /stc/hosts file: > > > /sshd ^^^^^ > All I added were the two lines preceding "ALL : ALL : allow". What could be > causing this problem? I don't seem to be missing any ":" separators. Not sure where that random /sshd came from, but the "line 1" bit is a pretty big hint as to where the problem is ;) Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 17:56:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E469816A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7A613C457 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:56:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:62980 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1QOa-0006lF-7j for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:56:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 83538 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2007 18:56:49 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 9 Dec 2007 18:56:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 85568 invoked by uid 1001); 9 Dec 2007 18:56:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:56:49 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Pollywog Message-ID: <20071209175649.GA85447@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Pollywog , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J1QOa-0006lF-7j. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1J1QOa-0006lF-7j 117872e881c8c29886d63524a60d18c7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: question about ordering of lines in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:56:54 -0000 On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 05:31:59PM +0000, Pollywog wrote: > It appears that the order of the *_enable="YES" lines in /etc/rc.conf is > important. I am looking at a HOWTO for HPLIP in which the author suggests > adding two lines in a certain order. > > Since I recently had a problem with jabberd starting before myslq was ready to > accept connections and I just found that jabberd_enable="YES" precedes > mysql_enable="YES" in my rc.conf, I am wondering whether order is important. > Can anyone provide an answer? > > I solved the problem I was having with jabberd but in a different way. > The ordering of the lines in /etc/rc.conf is not important. The only time order matters in /etc/rc.conf is if you were to set the same variable at two different lines. In that case only the last value would be used. In particular the ordering of lines within /etc/rc.conf does not influence in which order various services should be started. There are other mechanisms which control that. Read the rc(8) and rcorder(8) manpages for all the gory details. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 17:58:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A9B16A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C59E13C442 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (unknown [24.175.90.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C95D654FD for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 11:58:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:58:47 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7070AAA9B18DEF4507E20502@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> In-Reply-To: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> References: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: question about ordering of lines in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:58:43 -0000 --On December 9, 2007 5:31:59 PM +0000 Pollywog wrote: > It appears that the order of the *_enable="YES" lines in /etc/rc.conf is > important. I am looking at a HOWTO for HPLIP in which the author > suggests adding two lines in a certain order. > > Since I recently had a problem with jabberd starting before myslq was > ready to accept connections and I just found that jabberd_enable="YES" > precedes mysql_enable="YES" in my rc.conf, I am wondering whether order > is important. Can anyone provide an answer? > > I solved the problem I was having with jabberd but in a different way. > /etc/rc.conf is parsed by the daemon's startup script. So, the order of things in /etc/rc.conf does not determine which daemon is started first. That is done in /etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Daemons are started in alphabetical order unless the startup script is preceded by a number but they also honor the PROVIDE and REQUIRE keywords which determines what has to start before a daemon can be started. So, if you need a daemon to start before another daemon, rename the startup script to begin with a number. See man 8 rc, man 8 rcorder, especially this: The scripts within each directory are executed in lexicographical order. If a specific order is required, numbers may be used as a prefix to the existing filenames, so for example 100.foo would be executed before 200.bar; without the numeric prefixes the opposite would be true. Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 18:02:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27A816A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skanduru@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AC413C45B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skanduru@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2945193waf for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:02:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NBMvBGHh/VDyn3dAd4pHPEUI9q0CSUm1jE5lFoCMg0o=; b=iPegG9xMLs5sz9I9rjZNxCSqRYFhMcIq4t33uvixgjLoGjPj219c07FrZ0f67VOGSQgAJfkaMbp84PAMFf5lhVvnRA/l8vUVpACkiWeCKuNE7gj1K/kMq6voBH52j/ldX5rMvVnOHQKSjxoM1N6Zr42wX3/x5p2rMJMEGWjJOk0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=KudUsr2uecDn45j1HbnX1ce4Uchygx+B2Hu/h5SsSMikkgj1VQlSLzj+peJ22Sr2gn2Vo65nwfr4EqyqOZg1ea8jDMnZIt/GXWD0U298hxKl34nKRPTMdw3dAdmM5WQCJfIkjbe3pGRexSDn33TqsqZx/bEAqTjErytOVYUjdxw= Received: by 10.114.169.2 with SMTP id r2mr5938277wae.1197221807372; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 09:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.17 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:36:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:36:47 -0800 From: "Srinivasa R Kanduru" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Release 7.0 Beta2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:02:45 -0000 Hi, I was trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta2 on a dell x86 machine which doesn't have any PS2 ports. The installer expects a PS2 keyboard I think. The USB port is disabled for some reason and it is not possible to proceed further in the installation process. Is this a known issue ? Does the installer doesn't recognize a USB keyboard ? -- Regards, Srinivasa Kanduru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 18:12:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC32E16A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEA513C4DD for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 5567A617B; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:12:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A236117 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:12:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lB9IChUJ020980 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:12:43 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:12:42 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071209181242.GB1123@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="98e8jtXdkpgskNou" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: question about ordering of lines in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:12:46 -0000 --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 05:31:59PM +0000, Pollywog wrote: > It appears that the order of the *_enable=3D"YES" lines in /etc/rc.conf i= s=20 > important. I am looking at a HOWTO for HPLIP in which the author suggest= s=20 > adding two lines in a certain order. Which two lines? It shouldn't matter - any script that relies on variables in /etc/rc.conf should read the entire file for anything it's interested in *before* doing anything with those values. The first line of any such script should be something like =2E /etc/rc.subr /etc/rc.subr defines a function called load_rc_config() which is responsible for reading /etc/rc.conf (among other things), and making all the variables in /etc/rc.conf available to the calling script. It (the calling script) is then responsible for checking the values of any it is interested in. Some older style rc scripts don't source /etc/rc.subr or call the=20 load_rc_config function, but handle finding their settings in a different way, but one which still finds all the necessary settings before doing any processing. >=20 > Since I recently had a problem with jabberd starting before myslq was rea= dy to=20 > accept connections and I just found that jabberd_enable=3D"YES" precedes= =20 > mysql_enable=3D"YES" in my rc.conf, I am wondering whether order is impor= tant. > Can anyone provide an answer? No - it is the values of the rcorder(8) block in each script that determines the order in which things are run. For older style scripts that don't=20 conform to the rcorder standard, the name of the file determines when it is run, not the order that variables are defined in /etc/rc.conf. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --98e8jtXdkpgskNou Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD4DBQFHXDAaixf5fBYiFmoRAmgtAJilICfD4X4VnMxXCizZuAfjPTKnAJ9mGi+J NyJ3uAlQ2HDjlJQDJpmPEw== =CGdZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --98e8jtXdkpgskNou-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 18:29:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4DA16A41B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE79D13C45D for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:29:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so1001226wra for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.229.10 with SMTP id b10mr13290958anh.1197224976346; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1770790hsx.2007.12.09.10.29.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:29:35 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:29:48 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20071209121222.C85556@shell.xecu.net> References: <20071209113136.A8E1.B2AE1FB7@seibercom.net> <20071209121222.C85556@shell.xecu.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071209132803.C701.3E1ECFE8@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.43 [en] Subject: Re: Error message with "denyhosts" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:29:38 -0000 > On December 09, 2007 at 12:14PM Andy Dills wrote: > Not sure where that random /sshd came from, but the "line 1" bit is a > pretty big hint as to where the problem is ;) > > Andy I wondered about that to; however, until today, I have never even opened that file. I have no idea where if came from. I am assuming that you do not have a similar line in your file. I am going to comment it out and see if anything new transpires. Thanks! -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 18:51:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B37C16A420 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in04.adhost.com (mail-in04.adhost.com [216.211.128.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6223413C4CC for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in04.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F11192843 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([10.142.3.36]) by ad-exh01.adhost.lan with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:51:42 -0800 Message-Id: From: Michael Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:51:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2007 18:51:42.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[89D752E0:01C83A94] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.5.0.1243-5.0.1023-15594.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--5.617800-5.000000-2 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Cc: Subject: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:51:43 -0000 Hello All: I am trying to configure a round-robin group of Name Servers that respond on to and from a single address. I want the following to occur: 1) DNS query from 10.211.128.1 to 10.212.1.1 is redirected to a pool of name servers 2) One of the name servers responds to the query 3) The response shows a source address of 10.212.1.1, not the actual name server -- Here are the relevant configuration snippets. vlan821_if="vlan821" # This is the physical interface of the Name Servers vlan6_if="vlan_6" # This is the physical interface of the querying servers nr_net="10.212.1.0/24" # Name Resolver network mail_net="10.211.0.0/16" # Querying server network nr_01_int="10.212.1.11" #Define table for Name Resolvers table persist { \ $nr_01_int \ } nat on $vlan821_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 rdr on $vlan6_if proto { udp tcp } from any to 10.212.1.1 port 53 -> round-robin pass in on $vlan821_if inet proto tcp from $nr_net to any pass in on $vlan821_if inet proto udp from $nr_net to any pass in on $vlan6_if inet proto udp from $mail_net to $nr_net pass in on $vlan6_if inet proto tcp from $mail_net to $nr_net -- With this configuration, when I do a host lookup with 10.212.1.1 as the server address, I get this: ;; reply from unexpected source: 10.212.1.11#53, expected 10.212.1.1#53 So, it's my assumption that the "rdr" statement is working, but the "nat" statement is not. If anyone can help with this I would appreciate it greatly. Regards and Thanks, Mike mksmith@adhost.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 19:30:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B315216A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RA=7c7aa79b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856A213C448 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RA=7c7aa79b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A425163F70 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:07:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E44D0500 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:07:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:07:46 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071209190746.6cb22b6e@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <7070AAA9B18DEF4507E20502@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> References: <200712091732.02238.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> <7070AAA9B18DEF4507E20502@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: question about ordering of lines in rc.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 19:30:20 -0000 On Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:58:47 -0600 Paul Schmehl wrote: > So, if you need a daemon to start before another daemon, rename the > startup script to begin with a number. A cleaner way to do it is to create a dummy script that sorts in between them - that avoids altering any installed files. Of course if the two files were forced into that order by their REQUIRES and BEFORE lines they will need to be edited instead. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 20:11:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED5316A417 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com (mx00.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4285713C459 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:11:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lavalamp@spiritual-machines.org) Received: from [172.16.156.151] (pool-71-245-176-21.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.245.176.21]) (AUTH: LOGIN seklecki, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by wingspan with esmtp; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:11:42 -0500 id 00056407.475C4BFE.0000D0C9 From: "Brian A. Seklecki" To: Srinivasa R Kanduru In-Reply-To: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> References: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 15:11:40 -0500 Message-Id: <1197231100.3573.43.camel@new-host.l33tsdal3.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 (2.12.1-3.fc8) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Release 7.0 Beta2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:11:44 -0000 On Sun, 2007-12-09 at 09:36 -0800, Srinivasa R Kanduru wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta2 on a dell x86 machine which use the bios menu to set the keyboard mode to compat/ps/2 emulation mode. Also try unplugging & reconnecting the usb keyboard post-boot. Is this a a Optiplex 755 or 745? ~BAS > doesn't have any PS2 ports. The installer expects a PS2 keyboard I think. > The USB port is disabled for some reason and it is not possible to proceed > further in the installation process. > > Is this a known issue ? Does the installer doesn't recognize a USB keyboard > ? > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 20:14:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E90716A479 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:14:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (mail.freeode.co.uk [87.127.24.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332CB13C4E5 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from asus.freeode.co.uk ([10.10.10.10]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lB9KDwPM097629; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:13:58 GMT (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:13:58 +0000 From: John Murphy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071209201358.4f3b1e5a@asus.freeode.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> References: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: skanduru@gmail.com Subject: Re: Release 7.0 Beta2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:14:00 -0000 On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:36:47 -0800 "Srinivasa R Kanduru" wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta2 on a dell x86 machine which > doesn't have any PS2 ports. The installer expects a PS2 keyboard I think. > The USB port is disabled for some reason and it is not possible to proceed > further in the installation process. > > Is this a known issue ? Does the installer doesn't recognize a USB keyboard > ? I was reasonably sure I used my USB keyboard when I installed 7.0-beta2, but just to make sure I tried it and I can confirm that the installer recognises it. I tested it at the black and white (Beasty?) menu by pressing space and then 1, and I could select a keyboard layout in the sysinstall menu too. I carried on little further without problems. Can you find another keyboard to try? -- Thanks, John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 20:22:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE42D16A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD0D213C46E for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:22:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from toni.schrodinger.com (toni.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.56]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lB9KMZAV082505; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [10.10.18.38] (sub22-20.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.22.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by toni.schrodinger.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lB9KMZsM081725 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:22:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <475C4E85.9080308@schrodinger.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:22:29 -0800 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rudy References: <475B4860.3090402@schrodinger.com> <475B65BC.3090709@monkeybrains.net> In-Reply-To: <475B65BC.3090709@monkeybrains.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:22:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to find out when a package is installed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:22:36 -0000 Rudy wrote: > > I have used this: > ls -l /var/db/pkg/PORT_NAME/+DESC > > replace PORT_NAME with the correct directory name... > > RUdy > Thanks. This helped. Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 21:42:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B5616A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@juniper.net) Received: from exprod7og108.obsmtp.com (exprod7og108.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD4D13C448 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 21:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jgrosch@juniper.net) Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) by exprod7ob108.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 13:42:27 PST Received: from jgrosch-mbp.local ([172.23.5.250]) by emailsmtp55.jnpr.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:47:09 -0800 Message-ID: <475C543D.5080008@juniper.net> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 12:46:53 -0800 From: Josef Grosch Organization: Juniper Networks User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrea Venturoli References: <475C0B52.1000108@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: <475C0B52.1000108@netfence.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2007 20:47:09.0720 (UTC) FILETIME=[AAF3A180:01C83AA4] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SAS Controller again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:42:28 -0000 Andrea Venturoli wrote: > Hello. > > In my search for a SAS controller, I've been offered an Adaptec ASR3405 > or ASR3805. These are not supported in 6.2R, but it looks like they will > be in upcoming 6.3R by the aac driver. > I'd like to know about ground experiences with these cards. Do they work > well? Does aaccli allow for production-time online check and array rebuild? > Any trouble? > > bye & Thanks > av. We use the Adaptec 3805 here at Juniper with great success. The 3805 and 15K SAS drives are damn fast. We are very happy with them, however there are a few caveat. * The Adaptec driver in FreeBSD 6.2 does not understand what a 3805 is. Adaptec has released an update to the driver in source code. It is on their web site. There are several people who work at Juniper who have the commit bit so we are going to try and get the updated driver into the tree before 6.3. In the mean time, in order to install 6.2 with a 3805 one needs to install the driver at install time off of a floppy or a USB driver. Then either copy the kernel driver into /boot/kernel or recompile the kernel with the new driver. It's a little bit of a pain but once it's you can forget about it. * The early versions of this card had a nasty bug in the firmware. When the card was put under a heavy load the card would stall and timeout. Adaptec has released an update to the firmware on their web site. The update is a bootable ISO image. Updating the firmware requires one to reboot the system with the bootable CD then updating the firmware using the supplied program. * Aaccli, which is in the ports tree, does not understand what a 3805 is. Adaptec has a replacement program on their web site but I have only played around with it and not spent a lot of time with this tool. I would guess that it has all the same functionality that aaccli had. Josef -- FreeBSD 6.2 | Josef Grosch | Last night I was laying in bed, looking up at the jgrosch@juniper.net | stars, and wondering, "Where the hell is my roof" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 23:34:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63FB16A419 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:34:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6FA13C45B for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:34:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5019E39824; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:34:35 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475C7B8A.5000908@locolomo.org> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:34:34 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Smith References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:34:38 -0000 Michael Smith wrote: > Hello All: > > I am trying to configure a round-robin group of Name Servers that > respond on to and from a single address. > > I want the following to occur: > > 1) DNS query from 10.211.128.1 to 10.212.1.1 is redirected to a pool > of name servers > 2) One of the name servers responds to the query > 3) The response shows a source address of 10.212.1.1, not the actual > name server I know this does not answer your question, but, what's the point? DNS isn't exactly the kind of task that knocks over a server. If you want redundancy, then the correct way to do it is to add NS entries to your zone files. I simply let my register transfer the zone file daily, works fine. If you need to update the zone file regularly just reduce the max age of the zone. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 23:57:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23DF16A418 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD01113C448 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 26513981E9 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:57:29 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:57:18 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:57:32 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > My Dear Friend, > > You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the above > except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for FreeBSD) > works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just use > youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even > alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video games > full of Flash! I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave youtube-dl: No match. eg %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA youtube-dl: No match. I even installed the latest version. Do only certain videos work? Do you have an example that works? Thanks and apologies for hijacking your thread. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 00:09:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496D216A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F4A13C455 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:09:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBA09ecn086802; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:09:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 456CFB829; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:09:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:09:40 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Chris Whitehouse Message-ID: <20071210000940.GA3696@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Whitehouse , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T4sUOijqQbZv57TR" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:09:43 -0000 --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 11:57:18PM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave > youtube-dl: No match. >=20 > eg >=20 > %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DgpIM3nBR2ZA > youtube-dl: No match. You have to quote the argument to youtube-dl, otherwise the shell will mess it up, because '?' is a special character for the shell. So use: youtube-dl 'http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DgpIM3nBR2ZA' Tested and works fine here. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHXIPEEnfvsMMhpyURAmB+AKCfm2eRnfi5yE2bsHPmvTfz7PvYZACeJFYK jatQWOg2uY3TPNNcAT3c5tc= =QwMM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T4sUOijqQbZv57TR-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 00:10:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B343A16A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C90113C467 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 792CC98298 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:10:34 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475C83EE.3050601@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:10:22 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:10:35 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> My Dear Friend, >> >> You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the above >> except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for FreeBSD) >> works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just use >> youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even >> alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video >> games full of Flash! > > I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave > youtube-dl: No match. > > eg > > %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA > youtube-dl: No match. > > I even installed the latest version. > > Do only certain videos work? Do you have an example that works? > > Thanks and apologies for hijacking your thread. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > %youtube-dl "http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA" Retrieving video webpage... done. needs quotes... Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 00:11:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9446F16A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218E913C47E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:50189 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1WEy-0004Yd-63 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:11:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 85562 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2007 01:11:17 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2007 01:11:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 17502 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Dec 2007 01:11:17 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:11:17 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Chris Whitehouse Message-ID: <20071210001117.GA17435@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Whitehouse , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J1WEy-0004Yd-63. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1J1WEy-0004Yd-63 ba7d0483ffcc9c86b4490c6d87dd5e65 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:11:22 -0000 On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 11:57:18PM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> My Dear Friend, >> You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the above >> except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for FreeBSD) >> works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just use >> youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even >> alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video games >> full of Flash! > > I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave > youtube-dl: No match. > > eg > > %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA > youtube-dl: No match. To get that example to work try: youtube-dl 'http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA' instead. The quote marks are important, because otherwise the shell will try to interpret the "?" in the URL as a wildcard and try to do wildcard expansion as if it was a filename. It is the shell (not youtube-dl) which gives the error message, when it cannot find any file that matches. This is nothing specific to youtube-dl. It is just the way most shells under Unix work. If you do not want the shell to try to interpret any 'funny' characters in an argument to the command you need to enclose the argument in quote marks. > > I even installed the latest version. > > Do only certain videos work? Do you have an example that works? > > Thanks and apologies for hijacking your thread. > -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 00:46:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5861A16A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2165E13C448 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 90CC79825D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:52 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475C8C70.7070406@onetel.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:40 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> <20071210001117.GA17435@owl.midgard.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <20071210001117.GA17435@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:46:54 -0000 Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 11:57:18PM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: >> Predrag Punosevac wrote: >> >>> My Dear Friend, >>> You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the above >>> except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for FreeBSD) >>> works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just use >>> youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even >>> alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video games >>> full of Flash! >> I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave >> youtube-dl: No match. >> >> eg >> >> %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA >> youtube-dl: No match. > > To get that example to work try: > > youtube-dl 'http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA' > > instead. The quote marks are important, because otherwise the shell > will try to interpret the "?" in the URL as a wildcard and try to do wildcard > expansion as if it was a filename. It is the shell (not youtube-dl) > which gives the error message, when it cannot find any file that matches. > > This is nothing specific to youtube-dl. It is just the way most shells > under Unix work. If you do not want the shell to try to interpret any > 'funny' characters in an argument to the command you need to enclose the > argument in quote marks. > Yes that works, thanks everyone Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 01:11:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A0616A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in08.adhost.com (mail-in08.adhost.com [216.211.128.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B80713C459 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:11:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in08.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5DE8FC37; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:11:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([10.142.3.36]) by ad-exh01.adhost.lan with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:11:35 -0800 Message-Id: <2C799BA1-729E-4990-A80F-1C840AD53D9B@adhost.com> From: Michael Smith To: Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <475C7B8A.5000908@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 17:11:34 -0800 References: <475C7B8A.5000908@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2007 01:11:35.0043 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B6BCD30:01C83AC9] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.5.0.1243-5.0.1023-15594.003 X-TM-AS-Result: No--9.787600-5.000000-2 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:11:36 -0000 On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Michael Smith wrote: >> Hello All: >> I am trying to configure a round-robin group of Name Servers that >> respond on to and from a single address. >> I want the following to occur: >> 1) DNS query from 10.211.128.1 to 10.212.1.1 is redirected to a >> pool of name servers >> 2) One of the name servers responds to the query >> 3) The response shows a source address of 10.212.1.1, not the >> actual name server > > I know this does not answer your question, but, what's the point? > DNS isn't exactly the kind of task that knocks over a server. If you > want redundancy, then the correct way to do it is to add NS entries > to your zone files. > > I simply let my register transfer the zone file daily, works fine. > If you need to update the zone file regularly just reduce the max > age of the zone. Hello Erik: Well, aside from doing a *lot* of queries, it's nice to have a single IP address fronting a set of servers so I can pull one out for maintenance at any time and it doesn't affect name resolution for the clients. Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 01:27:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3E516A419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp102.math.arizona.edu (smtp102.math.arizona.edu [128.196.102.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2AC13C4D1 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:27:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1XQ8-00075e-HL for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:27:02 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp102.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J1XPn-00075L-69; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:26:35 -0700 Message-ID: <475C95C6.4070702@math.arizona.edu> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:26:30 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:27:05 -0000 Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >> My Dear Friend, >> >> You will have to wait for a very long time then since all of the >> above except Flash (which Adobe does release for Linux but not for >> FreeBSD) works flawlessly on FreeBSD including watching YouTube (just >> use youtube-dl to snap the video and play with VLC). There are even >> alternative solutions for the Flash unless you want to play video >> games full of Flash! > > I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave > youtube-dl: No match. > > eg > > %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA > youtube-dl: No match. > > I even installed the latest version. > > Do only certain videos work? Do you have an example that works? > Any video posted on Youtube will work for youtube-dl . It will snap the file in .flv format which can be player only with VLC and MPlayer. Nothing else. Clive is capable of snapping videos from Google video as well and has an additional capabilities to converting .flv files to more friendly video formats like .MPG So what do you think? That I can not watch YouTube because I use FreeBSD? Funny... There are at least 4 other way to watch videos on YouTube on FreeBSD running machine. The one I proposed is the simplest. > Thanks and apologies for hijacking your thread. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 01:37:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E48416A419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RB=9c3ffd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67F213C43E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:36:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RB=9c3ffd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7023163F64 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:05:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3940BD05A1 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:04:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:04:41 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071210010441.337e2990@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:37:00 -0000 On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:45:22 +0000 neal wrote: > I have had unsolvable (so far) problems with playing both > dvd movies and cd audio. MPlayer will play VOBs but no > menus, no navigation which can make watching pretty much > impossible sometimes. > > I had actually given up on trying to get these two features > to work and have installed a new linux (to me), Kubuntu. Probably Kubuntu was using Kmplayer with the Xine backend. Xine has DVD menu support and AFAIK MPlayer doesn't on any platform. I would normally use Xine for DVDs and most video files as its picture quality is better. That said, if you want to play DVDs through mplayer you can navigate via the gmplayer context menu - you don't need to play the vob files directly. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 01:41:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDEC416A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RB=9c3ffd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A312B13C447 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RB=9c3ffd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8062D0502 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:41:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:41:04 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071210014104.37683488@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071210000940.GA3696@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> <20071210000940.GA3696@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:41:09 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:09:40 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 11:57:18PM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > > I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave > > youtube-dl: No match. > > > > eg > > > > %youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA > > youtube-dl: No match. > > You have to quote the argument to youtube-dl, otherwise the shell will > mess it up, because '?' is a special character for the shell. > > So use: youtube-dl 'http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA' An alternative is the "All-In-One Video Bookmarklet" which you can get here: http://1024k.de/bookmarklets/video-bookmarklets.html It's just a little bit of javascript that's small enough to live in a bookmark. It turns the current page into a list of download links. I find it a lot easier than youtube-dl. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 02:50:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7DE16A419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:50:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) Received: from n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (smtpout0183.sc1.he.tucows.com [64.97.136.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0913C447 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (82.20.27.99) by n068.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) (authenticated as kneel.pardoe@virgin.net) id 47586AEC0009AAF4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:50:41 +0000 From: neal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:50:22 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <20071210010441.337e2990@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071210010441.337e2990@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712100250.22418.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:50:43 -0000 On Monday 10 December 2007, RW wrote: > Probably Kubuntu was using Kmplayer with the Xine > backend. Xine has DVD menu support and AFAIK MPlayer > doesn't on any platform. I would normally use Xine for > DVDs and most video files as its picture quality is > better. That said, if you want to play DVDs through > mplayer you can navigate via the gmplayer context menu - > you don't need to play the vob files directly. No, I was using Kaffeine which also uses the xine backend (and its better picture quality). I see my original post ended up looking like just a moan when that wasn't my intention. (best laid plans...) I chose Kubuntu because it has an easy set up for VMware and a couple of similar products which I hope to get installed and set up to run BSD. Like I said I really like many things about FreeBSD, like it is just so much better organised than the Linux I've previously used. I just wanted to get 'my' basic requirements established first which has usually been trivial to achieve, but unfortunately got no further. neal. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 04:30:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D018516A421 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B86213C469 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jimmiejaz@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so386189anc for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:30:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bS+lvixMwPr9QFwSGDHlVfetnt5Xqwf9RAdWy2J2Z5k=; b=XIW8j3VFFNt1kf7CwSm/DDi4d6AYMQ0y5z+CrLA2MuO6s3YWL9ctVWdnmJKE7gXOSNj0ExecxdDcMIf34PTUp3t8N8xioyKk3t2DSmZ/kwh7oKgn5K0NqeV/S8fojeybQQJBBYZaCrAO221Yu2SGG7j/dzN7RDrbAC8P9WKr9oc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GYKducmXb9Tt4ptexwWPNiKkSG/unDi7KisLnRmqJ9gwSWGiwagDXJ1RLnI3R+w1LZovBF0HTBO4giKOt3LMK+PTFS0IQ9StrA2qTVBRNivCKnoYdIz9HNvlbSw0+FU3C3ll6UWbXDr9744mUdBZ6cB0efPpfyMyUWDoYiUtVtI= Received: by 10.100.57.6 with SMTP id f6mr3182428ana.1197261013366; Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fortytwo.zapto.org ( [70.48.45.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h5sm3087895roe.2007.12.09.20.30.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:30:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475CC0D6.6010409@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:30:14 -0500 From: Jimmie James User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4pre (X11/20071018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Whitehouse Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. youtube-dl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jimmiejaz@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:30:14 -0000 Chris said: >I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave >youtube-dl: No match. >eg >%youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA >youtube-dl: No match. I'm sure someone else is going to jump in saying to qoute the URL, but and even easier way is to grab the string after watch?v= in your example : [23:29:22] jimmie@fortytwo <104> [0] ~>youtube-dl gpIM3nBR2ZA Retrieving video webpage... done. Extracting URL "t" parameter... done. Requesting video file... done.Video data found at http://chi-v274.chi.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=gpIM3nBR2ZA Retrieving video data: 7.8% ( 1.59M of 20.41M) at 159.43k/s ETA 02:00 It's a little be easier, IMHO. -- If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kickboxing. --- --- --- Solving Today's Problems Tomorrow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 04:37:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CEA16A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:37:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C3413C43E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:37:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2007 23:37:26 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.3-GA) with ESMTP id ODH04661; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:37:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 09 Dec 2007 23:36:22 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18268.49797.156298.134440@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:37:25 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <475CC0D6.6010409@gmail.com> References: <475CC0D6.6010409@gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. youtube-dl X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:37:27 -0000 Chris said: > > >I tried youtube-dl but every url I tried gave > >youtube-dl: No match. > >eg > >%youtube-dl http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA > >youtube-dl: No match. You have to quote the URL: huff@> youtube-dl "http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA" The shell parses "http://youtube.com/watch?v=gpIM3nBR2ZA", sees the '?', thinks it's a shell glob character, and does the usual thing. Which turns out to not be the Right Thing. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 06:56:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270816A41A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.91]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F108F13C45D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:56:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 66936 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2007 06:56:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=JFDgVEPy0FtmbEMBeXW81U2W38NCRx0B3TOEv1D5Us/WNiPUIrcA4rR5t65cu0fY0St0/fttGLOo2kTdKy1hlKjRMzETobxQGSMMQuVuV5ixV8mcXgyor8k+32uSXnLB67CPwKAkILL+XOIFdGTWcYD1R9s2zShC+litcnqE80c= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp118.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2007 06:56:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Bk0NyQUVM1niW4RoI9EQoTKNmpGWyyauiFbZ7_pgn9YYYXJQ2CNhBpnh0.zBBkbn.xhuCTKfeRWOK9D4xOUExxZqg9onzokqHguMkKhlosGyBYwqzA-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1049f53fe18e8533721516ed7dc217ed@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: User Questions From: jekillen Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:57:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:56:13 -0000 Hello: I have two name servers for four domains. The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 and the secondary is running v 6.2. I have an MX record for each of the four registered domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record database is for one of the sites. When I try to send an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages bounce for dns lookup failure. The name that is being looked up is .... Some how the two names are being mashed together and then looked up, causing the resolution failure. dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this. There was a period missing after the MX host name record. I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name server just to insure that named got the change and checked the secondary record and it has the change I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that it is actually running at the time, it was and is. but the bak file on the secondary server has IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. $ORIGIN targetDomain.tld. when the record on primary server is @ IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. @ in this context should reference the domain this file is for. If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you make any suggestions or recommendations? thank you in advance Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 07:19:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE7716A41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DFB13C457 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBA7JtRx013605 for ; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBA7JtNu013604 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:19:55 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071210071955.GB13458@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: Cannot write disk.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:19:57 -0000 People, I sent this update hours ago. I had a typo and it bounced. ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem ----- Maybe somebody can share some insights. k3b says that everything looks good, I can punch up the right places to read my DVD, but it refuses to burn. The first diagnostic says that /tmp/kde-k3d (?) didn't have enough room. This after the DVD was already read, which seems a bit strange.. So I moved the tmp space to /usr/tmp/kde-k3b. Again, it read the entire disc but again refused to write my blank disc. The diagnostics indicated that dd was faulting. So to be certain it wasn't a space issue I moved over to /storage/tmp/<> where I've got 93GB free. BZZZZT. SAme thing. I've chowned cdrecord and cdrdao suid . I understand octcal better than characters. But I did a chmod u+s on both binaries. If not right, what is thee character and the octal (please) to chmod a binary suid?? I just build k9copy and will try it. (i Have a few other questions related to this stuff, but first, I'd just like to get k3b working.) thanks, gary PS: the only new thing of note is that now k3b thinks my blank in "medium-sized" and asks me to insert a double. I can't figure out if there is anyplace to do any more configs. And my Memorex DVD-RW discs hold up to 360 minutes. Nutshell, I'm wedged. Or really, lost... . -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 08:38:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B877316A419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:38:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay001.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C57313C457 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes Received: from 167.209-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.244.209.167]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2007 09:38:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:35:14 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071210083514.GA8145@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Userdir mod in apache2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:38:49 -0000 Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) PHP Version 5.2.5 FreeBSD 6.2 Trying to get the userdir module to work but it seems to fail all the time due to 'You don't have permissions....' Main webserver works fine. Only when trying to go to the 'http://localhost/~user/index.html' I get the permissions error. when looking at phpinfo -> loaded modules identifies mod_userdir I've uncommented the following in httpd.conf Include etc/apache22/extra/httpd-userdir.conf I've changed my extra/httpd-userdir.conf to where homedirs are in /data/username UserDir public_html (Also tried to put UserDir enable username) AllowOverride FileInfo AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options MultiViews Indexes SymLinksIfOwnerMatch IncludesNoExec Order allow,deny Allow from all Order deny,allow Deny from all I've made sure that the whole /data/username/public_html is readable by everybody by a simple chmod -R 755 /data But I just cannot get my userdir to functions correctly. What am I missing? Thanks, Alain From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 09:54:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F9516A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skanduru@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C632413C455 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:54:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skanduru@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3424507waf for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:54:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=iomyxziE56opWAgW/9GOEyOUFjDo8gqZpiLMvl7FTGk=; b=faAe0YYTYqjfVkXRqxjU222n3fZ5krrZQkEvudDgHsgmi8cd0MQ+oR0E0NP4lMObm4Pxosg23poqdni9snC3kq9FwUNY1/FGLOpN6uAfTZB7jrJ1DE8UOScc6MIKpVxRByuzWL+7AIw64tq+KOEm3bTgsJR9JZ4kDBz2cObVYkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=f2U1H7YKWp88gtm1fPr2nIXXWUkKT7AkRffl0AB6wES7nOXUDxUAvpkrUXMB9eKzakg7TwW/aNUIN65HidRUb31VDdWIsQrZzyAuuN9AOTq14SwnT0m6FK9Bb+F4XxiFXFC+OxCAmf7YF1uJC9+HvpmPjcO3mtA8XhXmzraKDcQ= Received: by 10.115.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr1983288wai.1197280451114; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.17 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:54:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8871d74a0712100154g436aa23sc4dc965549d86060@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:54:11 -0800 From: "Srinivasa R Kanduru" To: "John Murphy" In-Reply-To: <20071209201358.4f3b1e5a@asus.freeode.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> <20071209201358.4f3b1e5a@asus.freeode.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Release 7.0 Beta2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:54:12 -0000 Thanks for the inputs. The keyboard responds in the "Welcome" screen. So I can stop and select different booting options. But later when the kernel boots, the usb controller driver gives an error. Here is what I saw in the bootup messages: ... usb1: host controller halted uhub1: usb device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 1 ... The system is Dell Dimension 3100 with Intel Pentium4 processor. When I googled, I found a related PR. ... kern/100746: system does not boot due to USB keyboard problem on Dell 3100 ... That bug was related to usb panic, and it seems to have been fixed. What I observe now is that the usb keyboard works in the boot loader, but fails to be configured by the kernel. Regards, Srinivas. On 12/9/07, John Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:36:47 -0800 > "Srinivasa R Kanduru" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I was trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta2 on a dell x86 machine which > > doesn't have any PS2 ports. The installer expects a PS2 keyboard I > think. > > The USB port is disabled for some reason and it is not possible to > proceed > > further in the installation process. > > > > Is this a known issue ? Does the installer doesn't recognize a USB > keyboard > > ? > > I was reasonably sure I used my USB keyboard when I installed 7.0-beta2, > but just to make sure I tried it and I can confirm that the installer > recognises it. I tested it at the black and white (Beasty?) menu by > pressing space and then 1, and I could select a keyboard layout in the > sysinstall menu too. I carried on little further without problems. > > Can you find another keyboard to try? > > -- > Thanks, John. > > -- Regards, Srinivasa Kanduru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 10:19:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8F916A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skanduru@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E3213C4E3 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from skanduru@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so3437162waf for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:19:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cu4pR3l4PA7vttbR6Aui+TB04ohU1oBKvgIUiMxx7CE=; b=QR2f8afuc3u0STgu/0zf2vqoR37lXeo9BOJt60NN8O/zCqB1xcc1fI6v46uqfxRmRbMJmqIPFoGux1mqpNNXnTQVYPNo9ajxDcFivePWQuoziuD4K3csIF7AjOrL06oNpqm5WVmhGLZtUYF1tHDyYiCx/HFK7+3TSPBPgJ2EGIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Kbm7ug4ddtI8mvD5TE0mA7rMaeSdXpF2Q12o34iIDbgKDy5+/D+uKnCKrLMB0D3skJIybyWADEnxKjeyRFhINe7p4TF3qSvzTmz6amlLYYjW75wOFMGWqdIWib57+B6s9uoqX9HePCdGV/+61ABLYmLmizMKW+sd1iHN6Er6KCY= Received: by 10.115.22.1 with SMTP id z1mr2008285wai.1197281981850; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.159.17 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:19:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8871d74a0712100219v16e1ecdahe20bfdd59ee29505@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:19:41 -0800 From: "Srinivasa R Kanduru" To: "John Murphy" In-Reply-To: <8871d74a0712100154g436aa23sc4dc965549d86060@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8871d74a0712090936n6c01c2fal613f5f9ea1354d64@mail.gmail.com> <20071209201358.4f3b1e5a@asus.freeode.co.uk> <8871d74a0712100154g436aa23sc4dc965549d86060@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Release 7.0 Beta2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:19:42 -0000 I forgot to mention that this was seen with 7.0Beta4 released on Dec 3. On 12/10/07, Srinivasa R Kanduru wrote: > > > > Thanks for the inputs. The keyboard responds in the "Welcome" screen. So I > can stop and select different booting options. But later when the kernel > boots, the usb controller driver gives an error. Here is what I saw in the > bootup messages: > > ... > usb1: host controller halted > uhub1: usb device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 1 > ... > > The system is Dell Dimension 3100 with Intel Pentium4 processor. > > When I googled, I found a related PR. > ... > kern/100746: system does not boot due to USB keyboard problem on Dell 3100 > ... > That bug was related to usb panic, and it seems to have been fixed. What I > observe now is that the usb keyboard works in the boot loader, but fails to > be configured by the kernel. > > Regards, > Srinivas. > > > On 12/9/07, John Murphy wrote: > > > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 09:36:47 -0800 > > "Srinivasa R Kanduru" < skanduru@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I was trying to install FreeBSD 7.0 Beta2 on a dell x86 machine which > > > doesn't have any PS2 ports. The installer expects a PS2 keyboard I > > think. > > > The USB port is disabled for some reason and it is not possible to > > proceed > > > further in the installation process. > > > > > > Is this a known issue ? Does the installer doesn't recognize a USB > > keyboard > > > ? > > > > I was reasonably sure I used my USB keyboard when I installed 7.0-beta2, > > but just to make sure I tried it and I can confirm that the installer > > recognises it. I tested it at the black and white (Beasty?) menu by > > pressing space and then 1, and I could select a keyboard layout in the > > sysinstall menu too. I carried on little further without problems. > > > > Can you find another keyboard to try? > > > > -- > > Thanks, John. > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Srinivasa Kanduru -- Regards, Srinivasa Kanduru From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 10:44:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC2016A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:44:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from n9a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com (n9a.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDF0413C447 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from [217.12.4.215] by n9.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2007 10:31:36 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by t2.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2007 10:31:36 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.152] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2007 10:31:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp400.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Dec 2007 10:31:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 230794.32894.bm@omp400.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83791 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Dec 2007 10:24:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=eAj6oD0YEtJWr7Ezokd0dF0Jo01OFyfuRZGkUSo29JSoT2mvc2zc2p7a+CrC64FTN17sBHc4EzrWV+EEShP08R/Rz4U32krInUZ/JsyJrm+UuMlwKcPonOcZRrmuaaK9ZcaEEh1bZ1rZgtbdymeWHPnE/nBHZzpdqatIjBofpS0=; X-YMail-OSG: OZ91XYIVM1lBGkFn8kT7_zilxRTeEWzBeN9zpRjctmUBIba4wtTyWiJuJByCm0lvk8KMFouUI9kV1f_eRFURGYOMijDIACxCPGvR Received: from [41.219.192.91] by web44810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:24:55 PST Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:24:55 -0800 (PST) From: shinny knight To: Michael Smith , Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <2C799BA1-729E-4990-A80F-1C840AD53D9B@adhost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <979954.82929.qm@web44810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:44:32 -0000 Michael Smith wrote: On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > Michael Smith wrote: >> Hello All: >> I am trying to configure a round-robin group of Name Servers that >> respond on to and from a single address. >> I want the following to occur: >> 1) DNS query from 10.211.128.1 to 10.212.1.1 is redirected to a >> pool of name servers >> 2) One of the name servers responds to the query >> 3) The response shows a source address of 10.212.1.1, not the >> actual name server > > I know this does not answer your question, but, what's the point? > DNS isn't exactly the kind of task that knocks over a server. If you > want redundancy, then the correct way to do it is to add NS entries > to your zone files. > > I simply let my register transfer the zone file daily, works fine. > If you need to update the zone file regularly just reduce the max > age of the zone. Hello Erik: Well, aside from doing a *lot* of queries, it's nice to have a single IP address fronting a set of servers so I can pull one out for maintenance at any time and it doesn't affect name resolution for the clients. Mike _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org Hello Mike, If I understand correctly your environment I think you should change the NAT rule from: nat on $vlan821_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 to: nat on $vlan6_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 Let us know if this is solving the issue. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 12:18:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF1216A41A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (mail.geekisp.com [216.168.135.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A0E13C461 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: (qmail 7124 invoked by uid 1003); 10 Dec 2007 12:19:14 -0000 Received: from 67.100.188.210 (proxying for 67.100.188.210) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mbaki@whywire.net) by www.geekisp.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:14:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19125.67.100.188.210.1197288888.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:14:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Monah Baki" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10 [CVS] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Kernel module error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:18:46 -0000 Hi all, Trying to build kernel and I get the following error: /usr/src/sys/modules/acpi/acpi/../../../contrib/dev/acpica/exmutex.c:373:10: invalid preprocessing directive #return_AGPI_STATUS mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/acpi/acpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/acpi. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Never had this error before and I just cvsup latest stable-supfile FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE Thank you BSD Networking, Microsoft Notworking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 16:13:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECCF16A420 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C5413C478 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4EF654FD for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:13:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:13:58 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <7CCCF7D68C9EEF7338B04419@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071210083514.GA8145@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20071210083514.GA8145@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: Userdir mod in apache2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:13:59 -0000 --On Monday, December 10, 2007 09:35:14 +0100 "Alain G. Fabry" wrote: > Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) > PHP Version 5.2.5 > FreeBSD 6.2 > > Trying to get the userdir module to work but it seems to fail all the > time due to 'You don't have permissions....' > ............ > > But I just cannot get my userdir to functions correctly. > > What am I missing? Post the results of this: grep ServerName /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 17:11:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBE416A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in02.adhost.com (mailstandby.adhost.com [216.211.128.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118C413C447 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:11:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201C41EE855; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:11:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-pgp-encoding-format: MIME Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="PGP_Universal_058A492C_6DE448A3_44BFDD03_80A31AF0"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" x-pgp-encoding-version: 2.0.2 x-pgp-mapi-encoding-version: 2.5.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:11:08 -0800 Message-ID: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031603067F88@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> In-Reply-To: <979954.82929.qm@web44810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF Thread-Index: Acg7Fus8RKlRGs+KQNC6dmXZW35FSwAOEolg References: <2C799BA1-729E-4990-A80F-1C840AD53D9B@adhost.com> <979954.82929.qm@web44810.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> From: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" To: "shinny knight" , "Erik Norgaard" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:11:10 -0000 --PGP_Universal_058A492C_6DE448A3_44BFDD03_80A31AF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello Catalin: >=20 > Michael Smith wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: >=20 > > Michael Smith wrote: > >> Hello All: > >> I am trying to configure a round-robin group of Name Servers > that > >> respond on to and from a single address. > >> I want the following to occur: > >> 1) DNS query from 10.211.128.1 to 10.212.1.1 is redirected to > a > >> pool of name servers > >> 2) One of the name servers responds to the query > >> 3) The response shows a source address of 10.212.1.1, not the > >> actual name server > > >=20 >=20 > Hello Mike, >=20 >=20 > If I understand correctly your environment I think you should change > the NAT rule from: >=20 > nat on $vlan821_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 >=20 > to: >=20 > nat on $vlan6_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 >=20 > Let us know if this is solving the issue. >=20 I'm still seeing the same issue. Here's the output from pfctl -sa | grep 1= 0.212.1.1 nat on vlan6 inet from 10.212.1.0/24 to 10.211.0.0/16 -> 10.212.1.1 rdr on vlan6 inet proto udp from any to 10.212.1.1 port =3D domain -> round-robin rdr on vlan6 inet proto tcp from any to 10.212.1.1 port =3D domain -> round-robin vlan6 udp 10.212.1.11:53 <- 10.212.1.1:53 <- 10.211.128.146:54108 NO_= TRAFFIC:SINGLE It looks like the redirect is happening correctly, but the NAT isn't workin= g in reverse. The 10.212.1.1 address is in the subnet on $vlan821. Will t= his break NAT? That is, does NAT have to have an address on $vlan6? Regards, Mike --PGP_Universal_058A492C_6DE448A3_44BFDD03_80A31AF0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="PGP.sig" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="PGP.sig" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 9.7.0 (Build 867) iQEVAwUBR11zK/TXQhZ+XcVAAQgT+ggArxVYtfu6E2euMnFKZHUtvWbeu3ZHKh42 g6XvkrYNqCa0hrfIrM4S2UeDms4yo+C2zmuM5gOtZgCKuSB+R67upAdMTLBgr5Mz lVtUFSlevUZtNkQhP2krLKDtf9asfKfqDKmfVMlK3CZM9vijbJRGlq+FzuYxQ5Y5 F5C2I/O5GpGEladnh1DKN9jpYKt7WhCS1ZuCxNGPLUADFc4CltkjnHvdcfbDVi7h 8V/YNTwQsI4cTktu1IODH6k/jev4IH/mPaMS8VrzNmRLo8lr7O3FSofn/e0UFgus lpNN9FDNsTLpG0OMm/C2n3Qsak06NPqqu6Rtqe6Fvpqy/9zTieylQw== =rEd8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PGP_Universal_058A492C_6DE448A3_44BFDD03_80A31AF0-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 17:33:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C62F16A468 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:33:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaikat@email.unc.edu) Received: from smtp.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F30F13C447 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:33:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaikat@email.unc.edu) Received: from [152.23.76.25] (dhcp29997.wireless.unc.edu [152.23.76.25]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unc.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBAHWHeG018623 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:32:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:32:13 -0500 From: Jay Aikat Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: math:random X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:33:03 -0000 Hi, When I run a perl script that uses math:random, I get the following: Can't locate Math/Random.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at xyz.pl line 46. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at xyz.pl line 46. This machine is a 4.10-RELEASE, with perl, version 5.005_03. But I am getting this on several machines running different versions of FreeBSD with different perl versions as well. How do I fix this? Searched online a lot, but no resolution. Thanks much for any help on fixing this, --Jay. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 18:03:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1338116A473 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD90713C44B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4FF654FD for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:03:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:03:46 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <336C7F9E6C35AA130A674BCB@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> References: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: math:random X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:03:47 -0000 --On Monday, December 10, 2007 12:32:13 -0500 Jay Aikat wrote: > Hi, > When I run a perl script that uses math:random, I get the following: > > Can't locate Math/Random.pm in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at xyz.pl > line 46. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at xyz.pl line 46. > > This machine is a 4.10-RELEASE, with perl, version 5.005_03. But I am > getting this on several machines running different versions of FreeBSD > with different perl versions as well. > > How do I fix this? Searched online a lot, but no resolution. Thanks > much for any help on fixing this, You need to install the appropriate perl module - in this case Math::Random. FreeBSD ports contain many of the perl modules. Most are in the format p5-Foo-Bar. To find them, go to /usr/ports and type "make search key=Math-Random" (for example.) pauls@utd59514# ls /usr/ports/math/p5-Math-Random p5-Math-Random/ p5-Math-Random-MT/ p5-Math-Random-MT-Auto/ p5-Math-Random-OO/ p5-Math-RandomOrg/ So, cd to /usr/ports/math/p5-Math-Random, make install clean and your problem will be solved. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 18:10:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5E216A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from mg5.xecu.net (mg5.xecu.net [216.127.136.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CEA13C43E for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mg5.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5A7645B; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:10:23 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at xecu.net Received: from mg5.xecu.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mg5.xecu.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id G-Vq8nMEw4Tg; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:10:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from shell.xecu.net (shell.xecu.net [216.127.136.216]) by mg5.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE3863CA; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:10:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:10:28 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: Jay Aikat In-Reply-To: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> Message-ID: <20071210130522.P48709@shell.xecu.net> References: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math:random X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:10:31 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Jay Aikat wrote: > Hi, When I run a perl script that uses math:random, I get the > following: > > Can't locate Math/Random.pm in @INC (@INC contains: > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/mach > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl > /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8 .) at xyz.pl line > 46. > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at xyz.pl line 46. > > This machine is a 4.10-RELEASE, with perl, version 5.005_03. But I am getting > this on several machines running different versions of FreeBSD with different > perl versions as well. > > How do I fix this? Searched online a lot, but no resolution. Thanks much for > any help on fixing this, You perhaps installed the module into the base perl distribution before installing the ports perl and doing a "use.perl ports", or perhaps you didn't install the module at all (Math::Random isn't part of the base perl distribution). cd /usr/ports/math/p5-Math-Random && make install Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 18:33:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D9416A46C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4664613C467 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so290011pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UAKIkDl2cMO8rrVH2m+CtTIG8Q9fD10S68VP5Trh4lI=; b=DO5L3SLfmLz0bYipNWu67IgYrNDx75bWlfp6SvKlwhkjAxsxHVCK0SS5PCibRb2SmP4NN0hlrM0zLzKDwz7Zn9CBHydHxWbLPxQiDMU/hOuIQcqAhyrWaumYeaD7cHZRFQInsvLWKWk/9uE79Nwp4hc3uRB78JA/OPsgxm/tyVA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OZZAJhiu7cgl7TVBQ/CbIXcUhUSvbXxQ912k5u2R2rlsy22FVNRGsJ97qrol2ETBbQG1FYK21oGJSMLBeBaTcnbkn44iHKfr2DF/RQzFjTpNsyJuR9qZGXZSHM+76R42nXTxEwrhMaNaB5SO9qgOghoTMivVlmyaj0Y4RYE4DIs= Received: by 10.65.233.16 with SMTP id k16mr14696715qbr.1197311617820; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a29sm3282442qbd.2007.12.10.10.33.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:33:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:33:33 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:33:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 sysutils/fusefs-kmod installs to /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko and a fuse_load="YES" will not work because of this. But, mv/cp/ln'ing it to /boot/kernel gets nuked if you rebuild/install the kernel. How to get around this? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXUAtzIOMjAek4JIRApF1AJ4wbXjTQVt4wngiRObv7A2iTJFPQwCgnFiT V63lqeMKC4vWDHdykrcxXGo= =JB+k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 19:27:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A32716A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E1513C45A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so341236pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:27:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ryv3SeUulsZxRwznKs4y5t9f3Pv9ksQKBlJd66W4NEc=; b=OzyZwbuUTTZvoR9YVrwjA9KNvUUSCJVxPHh5JI3gVKmiHDwy6G3Xrlt6cSMhhe0DxUo27SLjFPJoKv+40DeMEGW2Uwe7ooq8KtxeAlmu4+uq3ePeu7QdpJu6ozED2i7m3EohNwLAjt9jWEg9foK2yhtANPYnQrgLbCoO/wIXEKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E3QYbo6IfMqzrBqOQyeBTM64aRIdAnh2cICvoTAQudnqAf0TF+vTv11tzFw4tUqeqmIFbZe6SmM7jwdbHz6tQqDPZajs4JCR/KN0pi18hW4VklOcQ/snFBq/52wStW1KB+I581upVReMbn6N+IzZGXoWhluWWNRo4flTCUhQhzI= Received: by 10.65.53.3 with SMTP id f3mr14643857qbk.1197314864350; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5sm5326252qbd.2007.12.10.11.27.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:27:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:27:39 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Messick References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:27:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > The fusefs rc script will run kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko. > You don't need to add anything to loader.conf . Secondly, you > should add kernel modules to the /boot/modules dir not > /boot/kernel. Thanks but I use a handwritten /etc/rc that does not call any thing in /etc/rc.d so the question stands -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXUzbzIOMjAek4JIRAm6VAJ4ysRZCw+3+cN6q6cPKa4ARdEleAwCglfGF 85cENq4/EyFrORvY2VVwNnk= =yo/4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 19:40:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912E816A41A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D77913C4D3 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so353523pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:40:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=TpIIiJVUCwVGJ62xXXpu69nQqJ0CwxNRkK8kPb+bKWs=; b=mJ2U0Pr/wraozQXtl3PDpshvplPQHHaGydRgAyawgJW+IBVrTCGfk7Z6jByXuxihJjuwtujwYl9kURjggLisquBxJqxITKZ4VkG7MZ86duNEZPTHkjL9zx628lr5IoTHvMQJGVLuRCY7BaCO2YVQDQH1YmDmmKS2Ybvlx/UYiTk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=OVn7kxiklGT7ylYjvowHP3K+/GZIqj4KlJLhM/PGDsY+I+yzkrqcU4TxMef8kBVwA7xybBFbahVpQOWyJd5UmD+jCo9Quf3KmU/CurpB8jAeL2ShQBn74gDPGrSgwsdWetGOxF/+y9Q8ZSwDToGPZCAuTU5l9OXC3AUBu8/Bnyg= Received: by 10.65.81.10 with SMTP id i10mr14790867qbl.1197315611734; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.107.3 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:40:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:40:11 +0000 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:40:17 -0000 What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all mail via mx1.optonline.net): OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `mx2.optonline.net')dnl btw shouldn't there be a frebsd7 or freebsd8 OSTYPE? (I run -current) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 19:49:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84ED916A46C for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52A8E13C467 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163981ABC789; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id E25822808A; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:49:51 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-a5e46bb000004fb9-9c-475d985f0ff0 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id CEDCA28086; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:49:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Aryeh Friedman In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:49:51 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:49:52 -0000 On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all mail > via mx1.optonline.net): > > OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl > define(`SMART_HOST', `mx2.optonline.net')dnl Look at /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and edit the SMART_HOST line as above. (Note that you can copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc and use the latter filename in order to avoid modifying the generic template file.) > btw shouldn't there be a frebsd7 or freebsd8 OSTYPE? (I run -current) There eventually will be, but there isn't likely to be a difference between the freebsd6.m4 file and a freebsd7.m4...nothing has changed which would affect sendmail. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 19:53:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1FD16A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:53:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9CE13C44B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:53:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) id lBAJr3Ff016807; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:53:03 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:53:03 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071210195303.GQ85081@dan.emsphone.com> References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:53:06 -0000 In the last episode (Dec 10), Aryeh M. Friedman said: > sysutils/fusefs-kmod installs to /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko and a > fuse_load="YES" will not work because of this. But, mv/cp/ln'ing it > to /boot/kernel gets nuked if you rebuild/install the kernel. How to > get around this? The loader also checks /boot/modules/ , so copy your stuff there. That's where the kqemu-kmod port puts kqemu.ko, for example. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 19:53:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280BE16A496 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robmessick@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9E113C457 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:53:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robmessick@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1894103rvb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:53:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IJsYN23q2JiViFB6QQeObzpEUAwKMn0paPdUpnoSvkA=; b=I/AOLWpUN+DcxsF/m8w4djICJTyp7q7/aKHT4J5AEFOzExGI+dVy/wDtSWBJiSz5FLs7TQd1CjA0Rg3mIZNHwvgvtlxAOXzmpka4zfRrHdnwaEYgyCKpg2TmfdbtB5DN9aRkeG5fynVv5hVBxtyoQ9nPtpViurRzpnHbX+K2gl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bH4FlvUfVd6kkjFGPY44CSmQ9tMdH/rtD7sEUp3pBnumFdx56HaXqJa67QUG9qgaWIDYRw3EWOPXgv9USwHI8lq7ZDFjwNbsVT8dbL8j4VwTNMovuh56iERLRIwQ3ugh+eW+wUc2AM/+mhfmOmgzNp2R7I/ETDwia1sC+Qxx+j0= Received: by 10.141.185.3 with SMTP id m3mr1292222rvp.1197314761339; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from altman.local ( [76.246.148.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y11sm5008256pod.2007.12.10.11.25.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:25:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 11:26:00 -0800 From: Rob Messick User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:53:14 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > sysutils/fusefs-kmod installs to /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko and a > fuse_load="YES" will not work because of this. But, mv/cp/ln'ing it > to /boot/kernel gets nuked if you rebuild/install the kernel. How to > get around this? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHXUAtzIOMjAek4JIRApF1AJ4wbXjTQVt4wngiRObv7A2iTJFPQwCgnFiT > V63lqeMKC4vWDHdykrcxXGo= > =JB+k > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > The fusefs rc script will run kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko. You don't need to add anything to loader.conf . Secondly, you should add kernel modules to the /boot/modules dir not /boot/kernel. -Rob From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 19:54:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C3616A41A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:54:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (llca513-a.servidoresdns.net [217.76.128.120]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B751E13C474 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from juancr@dsa.es) Received: from mail.dsa.es (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by llca513-a.servidoresdns.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C4591104150 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:31:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from 84.18.9.75 (SquirrelMail authenticated user faf352c) by mail.dsa.es with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:31:01 -0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4352.84.18.9.75.1197315061.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:31:01 -0000 (GMT) From: "DSA - JCR" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: FreeBSD 6.2 and ESATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:54:16 -0000 Hi all I wonder to know if FreebSD 6.2 (I386) has drivers for ESATA (External SATA): I haven't found anything about the item and I would like to use ESATA in spite of USB Disks for backups because of its speed. Thanks in advance Sincerely Juan Coruña Desarrollo de Software Atlantico From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:08:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAF616A474 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:08:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A44E13C4D3 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so381602pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:08:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YWMmb5nmusvh1jcma//SlVbBcUYpuKpd5j5M3gz03uE=; b=LJ7wAeLqda8C3PG5UhHbSGEyzDQAEf5WY36HIk4XBNv73cx+UpZTJ2/elo1ej04HZvrDvmiDRpyMKC19uBSpufT9MLKo35aQV9+9AMv51NXbjjd5mM7f6D9eh6CGya8xQ6Q7dgHvE4lbrK1UY0l6JRWhorhve+hz+0ilLLsQZ/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wq8DlB6lYmzE4yj9VrxMlKLolxne4LFBZ1AVZRgHd3WwQhIAC9D5aFrN2p7PrPXjPXWAAVCCs9f00gT3CK2IYpqvW0w0M9NuL4xjMAsDwaXJIwugMn1RopWSZImTK1FmkYRsGFMWwMzzn4OIIRaSCs++KtkvNCxkX2M/RwI+QU0= Received: by 10.65.83.18 with SMTP id k18mr14856736qbl.1197317316975; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e19sm3189557qbe.2007.12.10.12.08.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:08:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:08:32 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:08:38 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Chuck Swiger wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >> What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all >> mail via mx1.optonline.net): >> >> OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', >> `mx2.optonline.net')dnl > > Look at /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and edit the SMART_HOST line as above. > (Note that you can copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc and use the > latter filename in order to avoid modifying the generic template > file.) Just tried that the ISP just eats a test message (to the addr I am sending this from) but a direct telnet to port 25 on the smart host works fine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXVZwzIOMjAek4JIRAsRYAJ9z7QBEs0FZdtdAA8UbJKxrJczx4wCfWJmh R0HBLRqQhgP4bKk/uLCOAO4= =Ga9G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:26:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EAB16A419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C87B13C474 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:26:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 30242 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2007 20:26:16 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 10 Dec 2007 20:26:16 -0000 Message-ID: <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:23:52 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071207213712.GA27586@thought.org> <4759D1B3.8020101@math.arizona.edu> <20071208040446.GA68355@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071208040446.GA68355@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Predrag Punosevac , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DVD's and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:26:17 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 04:05:23PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: >> Gary Kline wrote: >>> Update: >>> >>> Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, >> Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the >> FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read >> here why is so difficult to use DVDs >> http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html > > I will see why totem just-works {TM} with Ubuntu. While here it > is missing plugin, etc...... >> Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play >> stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and >> audio formats. I know that comment about ogle certainly used to be correct. but I think that may possibly be dated information. My FreeBSD machine is pretty new, squeaky-clean, and all of the following dvd players (ones which I have tried so far, doesn't mean they're the only ones either) work just great: vlc, xine, ogle. Even though kmplayer works, I found it's interface (which uses mplayer and xine as backends) ssmed a little clunky. Anyhow, it might be time for taking another looksee. All 3 of those )vlc, ogle, xine) were really sharp and easy to use, good 5.1 audio using my optically connected sound system. > > > I've never used vlc for DVD; nor ogle; am building. >>> but kmplayer works >>> --altho with fewer control flow options. And after compiling >>> in "device atapicam" into my KERNCONF, k3b still chokes. >> K3b works fine or I should say as good as on any of major Linux >> distribution. Something is wrong with your configuration. >> Read very carefully >> >> $ make showinfo /usr/ports/sysutils/k3b >> > > Well, y'gotta cd to the k3b directory, but no prob; that I > remembered from before. I lpr'd it. It's clearly written > by one of us ( a fellow geek). > > I may have some followups. I've been reading and re-reading > and re-re-reading the info page. > >> >>> So. >>> For "toys", Linux; for superior [unbeatable] stability, FreeBSD >>> is still first rate. >>> >>> gary >>> >> Depends what you mean by playing. Some people use Flash or Java for work >> and FreeBSD is definitely not for them. >> For me personally works boot as a professional tool and as life-stile >> OS. But then it doesn't work for my mother in law and probably >> it doesn't work for 99% of other casual computer users. > > > You're right; I shouldn't have been so dismissive about burning > a CD or DVD. (i'Ve created some data CD's for friends.) > > vlc-devel is still building. Hopefully more will be working > after my reboot. > > gary > >> Cheers, >> Predrag >> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:37:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C351616A41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C90513C469 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:54958 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1pNj-000694-6W for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:37:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 92567 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2007 21:37:35 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 10 Dec 2007 21:37:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 26106 invoked by uid 1001); 10 Dec 2007 21:37:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:37:35 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: DSA - JCR Message-ID: <20071210203735.GA26067@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: DSA - JCR , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4352.84.18.9.75.1197315061.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4352.84.18.9.75.1197315061.squirrel@mail.dsa.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J1pNj-000694-6W. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1J1pNj-000694-6W fcf7d7f44938cf19abfe14be5c52f603 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.2 and ESATA X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:37:40 -0000 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 07:31:01PM -0000, DSA - JCR wrote: > Hi all > > I wonder to know if FreebSD 6.2 (I386) has drivers for ESATA (External > SATA): I haven't found anything about the item and I would like to use > ESATA in spite of USB Disks for backups because of its speed. > The only real difference between E-SATA and normal SATA is the physical connector. Any SATA controller-chip can be used for either normal SATA or ESATA. FreeBSD has drivers for many, but not all, SATA controllers and thus FreeBSD supports many ESATA implemntations, but not all of them. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:40:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD2916A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C079D13C448 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBAKef2Q012087; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:40:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBAKefJe012084; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:40:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:40:41 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Jay Aikat , Paul Schmehl In-Reply-To: <336C7F9E6C35AA130A674BCB@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Message-ID: <20071210133211.T11949@wonkity.com> References: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> <336C7F9E6C35AA130A674BCB@utd59514.utdallas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:40:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: math:random X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:40:48 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Paul Schmehl wrote: > You need to install the appropriate perl module - in this case Math::Random. > > FreeBSD ports contain many of the perl modules. Most are in the format > p5-Foo-Bar. To find them, go to /usr/ports and type "make search > key=Math-Random" (for example.) If you know the name, whereis is less work: % whereis p5-Math-Random p5-Math-Random: /usr/ports/math/p5-Math-Random -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:51:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7830416A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AE213C474 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584ABB78BA20; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:49:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.148.194] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J1pYt-0001Kb-00; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: <475DA681.7070302@web.de> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:50:09 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+Gwh2+YcdmNU1ou9DNU6myuoH+YVtifFdiMhW/ k03H5IitWK8tozTn667q9BjV5y2kj8ZcRQLfQGQdoR/vd97t/R TfF6t5B94= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rob Messick Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:51:25 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > >> The fusefs rc script will run kldload /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko. >> You don't need to add anything to loader.conf . Secondly, you >> should add kernel modules to the /boot/modules dir not >> /boot/kernel. >> > > Thanks but I use a handwritten /etc/rc that does not call any thing in > /etc/rc.d so the question stands > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHXUzbzIOMjAek4JIRAm6VAJ4ysRZCw+3+cN6q6cPKa4ARdEleAwCglfGF > 85cENq4/EyFrORvY2VVwNnk= > =yo/4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You could make a softlink... Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:54:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E967D16A41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8552A13C4E8 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so425286pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:54:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gggzqVpuY0aduT6LklMIcF+i2KxtcQW5xCz8dzPIylg=; b=O1VFspsLBPe83YHUAkVHvkbmsEoCVG9LBuEbedUa6/c5oMn/wqtGraS01vc0f7hLmwXmpykgNPrH5+AbnVRT0zuRntDc5+u3899fCH2jS3v9Js3sfDArnPixQU5vhgaFiaaRyX0bGIaJBlZIPeqrTe6e9Yi//Rfrq8XZ2ALwI/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ayxn1YW7xz16ZgY2iwZ0OWAzkrMagKJuxcwABYCjQxqebhoBYoLvWa1uli0LmFvyGlmT723Y/LBK3bpnQcaC1zTJH5Xo5Erz4H364EZXN1E1TJSsC5gbBlScxt18GPkGWh1BUm67bfrETwVi+FtroGhwNDMuuMMlcXQJBWOCDDI= Received: by 10.65.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr14988485qbj.1197320076562; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f12sm2096522qba.2007.12.10.12.54.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:54:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:54:15 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> In-Reply-To: <475DA681.7070302@web.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rob Messick Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:54:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > You could make a softlink... Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXWEnzIOMjAek4JIRAudyAKCMHwjBLmVkoBQ+1phqSjgxZs7oDACffqck Sqz6d33doxp89KzUcH6TsSY= =LcV4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 20:59:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB0E16A417 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:59:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A5613C442 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:59:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D56B8FB027; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:59:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.148.194] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J1piS-0003ru-00; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:59:04 +0100 Message-ID: <475DA8D2.60402@web.de> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:02 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18IsLTxgXW5xP1KGjeeypZ+SZzgE5IvQ1Byfg7w ootpfODAGwAAfL2JXfJwdxY/eOcA+w35EeT5ublqFfrGohhSlU e1jCbOoGU= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rob Messick Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:59:14 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > >> You could make a softlink... >> > > Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s > /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko > > And it did not work? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:01:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C345416A41A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2B513C458 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so431718pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:01:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NKIsxrLNYrNXEkqTI7Zv1CKG+vLOcBLHISWM1IclbqA=; b=LIXYqh4/hb+BC5mzbDos78wviCBc6o7+gdX7p1rCIUSd+X8KapWW6ZMXPABwP0+NCC2IlSfhIKeXXXugNvKH6grGC+VK/qyz8cBEFWfNOJczgjFlRaMDVBqKYzZ6XpWfBxWwR0Y6ijF7+aCcNTLiZ2cpYKevTce8G4MKqDZNj4U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Mtfqv1ip9LA/m4XLT6o6A72WnffXKCKS3k2LjapUl4SkKtIlzsriKiID7iDIAkKwk1rENxnOFGTcO1NvmawPjywNr5/dZr6NMeZSLDeTNThggJmI1OSZEuwyQ6QVJKTm5tT+2oGq3sedbXCCWQBxs2OQ8jgkYV4ztQDdjZCGWnQ= Received: by 10.65.40.16 with SMTP id s16mr14998163qbj.1197320481735; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:01:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e13sm3123196qbe.2007.12.10.13.01.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:01:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475D62CC.7050706@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:01:16 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> <475DA8D2.60402@web.de> In-Reply-To: <475DA8D2.60402@web.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rob Messick Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:01:37 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tino Engel wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >>> You could make a softlink... >>> >> >> Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s >> /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko >> >> > And it did not work? > If it worked I had not of asked the question (installkernel nukes it) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXWLMzIOMjAek4JIRAqblAJ4jnHJJtl78j6ocNbDpgEEUo6BvGACdGgso COMPBBIMaDET8ce2rSyPvEU= =qiMh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:08:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7EA16A476 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:08:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RB=9c3ffd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E11613C461 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:08:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RB=9c3ffd06@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9418ED0A31 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:08:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:07:57 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071210210757.2a243bc5@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> References: <20071207213712.GA27586@thought.org> <4759D1B3.8020101@math.arizona.edu> <20071208040446.GA68355@thought.org> <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DVD's and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:08:02 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:23:52 -0500 Chuck Robey wrote: > . Even though kmplayer works, I > found it's interface (which uses mplayer and xine as backends) ssmed > a little clunky. I wouldn't want to use kmplayer like that either, but it works very well in Konquerer. I've found it to be consistently superior to the gxine and mplayer plugins for firefox. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:13:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D00516A41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robmessick@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D14713C458 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:13:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robmessick@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1919412rvb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:13:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=I7up0yrgx+aRDVHN2FiOlLKtNY7Qz2hzlmSfU7liGhk=; b=EEaSXLH2slwC/YKRehPHu+uzA4/tIjE9URbsdXveLQZ0J8pGElwRd+3ykAxJBwLRCC7BkiTS/PzfoH37bJTWkx9eCdN9tvcVVhD3e/nc6N6T48rt36qegiSg7ONaOSUWyqjTFMBY1170UdLBVnE6PjHPzw+A0o6nXRVCzdgI2rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ruFEn15mpoX2UtHzi+TLVwfQeJLdIr6+23CPZq7sXTC0kiKAP86esWqEbnx77RvE+cS21vtmSBPYWWuS88jrFA+82myE1C8Kr4V9omYVqFgyFyJlmd+k5kx2LHTKWdpEfG57LLjQFKW0MiON8qaB/RaX5HikFPWIjYqdo/N6+4E= Received: by 10.141.197.8 with SMTP id z8mr4558304rvp.1197321213587; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from altman.local ( [76.246.148.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm7574930rvb.2007.12.10.13.13.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:13:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475DABFD.8020800@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:13:33 -0800 From: Rob Messick User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071120) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tino Engel References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> <475DA8D2.60402@web.de> In-Reply-To: <475DA8D2.60402@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:13:34 -0000 Tino Engel wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >>> You could make a softlink... >>> >> >> Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s >> /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko >> >> > And it did not work? > Yeah, if you put a kernel module in /boot/kernel, installkernel will wipe it out when you install a new kernel. That's why there is /boot/modules for kernel modules. installkernel shouldn't touch that. Change to: ln -s /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/modules/fuse.ko or add this to /boot/loader.conf: module_path="/boot/modules:/usr/local/modules" fusefs_load="YES" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:22:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730C516A421 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8FF13C467 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DF7BB3160E; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:22:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.148.194] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J1q5I-00061J-00; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:22:40 +0100 Message-ID: <475DAE5B.1070507@web.de> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:23:39 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> <475DA8D2.60402@web.de> <475D62CC.7050706@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475D62CC.7050706@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/jqLFMmT7TBOBpcSxERAB4MGx/jFGYExsVFZm1 7eRzxEf2qt2cXycxmLDwj7au1zm86CNJutf5fRP9DaRMTPgak3 zyth6pmPg= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Rob Messick Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:22:42 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tino Engel wrote: > >> Aryeh M. Friedman schrieb: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> You could make a softlink... >>>> >>>> >>> Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s >>> /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko >>> >>> >>> >> And it did not work? >> >> > If it worked I had not of asked the question (installkernel nukes it) > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHXWLMzIOMjAek4JIRAqblAJ4jnHJJtl78j6ocNbDpgEEUo6BvGACdGgso > COMPBBIMaDET8ce2rSyPvEU= > =qiMh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > So doing ln -s /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/modules/fuse.ko as proposed, should persist throughout kernel updates I assume. Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:27:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD36F16A420 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6AA13C4E9 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBALRIQG024286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:27:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=E2shBxb231g8KHXtMfcN+yEEvsZQFfnOh/Q7gJhpKA/ByGyJG618dhB+iJkkVqF5v eLSqXgOJvWIS9WG/YPqmA== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lBALRIrH024285; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:27:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:27:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071210161905.O20625@prime.gushi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:27:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: FreeBSD mail forwarder and SPF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:27:26 -0000 Hello all, I secure my outbound e-mail with SPF. One of the ports maintainers (garga@freebsd.org) also secures his INBOUND e-mail with SPF. I tried to e-mail garga about a minor doc-bug, and got a bounce, since his mailserver didn't recognize mx2.freebsd.org as a valid MX for danm@prime.gushi.org http://www.openspf.org/Why?id=danm%40prime.gushi.org&ip=69.147.83.53&receiver=parati.mdbrasil.com.br My solution to the problem was a workaround (screw being nice, open a send-pr). However, the fact that this person is protecting his inbox in the same way as I am presents a problem: he's listed as a contact for these ports, and isn't reachable via it (but ironically WOULD be if I had no spf record). In the mean, I recognize that FreeBSD is a volunteer organization, but can there be some kind of either: a) policy requirement that people configure allow rules for the freeBSD mx? or b) modification to the forwarder so it re-sends instead of forwarding? I'd offer to help but my postfix foo isn't what it needs to be. x As technical types, coders, porters, etc, I feel we're beyond the level of "end user" for whom this would be "too complicated". -Dan Mahoney -- "Check it out, it's just like Christmas. Except it sucks." -Jason Seguerra, 3/2/05 --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:41:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F4916A419 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:41:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce@alaska.net) Received: from iris.acsalaska.net (iris.acsalaska.net [209.112.173.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E1E13C45A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:41:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from royce@alaska.net) Received: from [192.168.254.100] (209-112-210-212-rb1.nwc.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net [209.112.210.212]) by iris.acsalaska.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBAL7clB051910; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:07:38 -0900 (AKST) (envelope-from royce@alaska.net) Message-ID: <475DAAB0.80702@alaska.net> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:08:00 -0900 From: Royce Williams User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071031 Thunderbird/2.0.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACS-Spam-Status: no X-ACS-Scanned-By: MD 2.63; SA 3.2.3; spamdefang 1.122 Subject: does sysinstall's "Upgrade" ever use the local system's shell? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:41:25 -0000 Question: Does the sysinstall "Upgrade" option have a dependency on the local system's sh at any time during the install? Details: I have a system that I'm trying to rescue. It has a mix of 6.2-SECURITY and 6.3-BETA components due to a failure during the freebsd-update minor-upgrade procedure. After some analysis and help from cperciva, we think that this was due to possible filesystem errors that have since been corrected. On Colin's recommendation, to repair the system, I am not relying on anything local to the system and instead, using sysinstall's "upgrade" option from CD to upgrade 6.3-RC1. Somewhere during or after the backup of /etc, I get this dialog: "Hmmm! I couldn't move the old kernel over! Do you want to treat this as a big problem and abort the upgrade? Due to the way that this upgrade process works, you will have to reboot and start over from the beginning. Select Yes to reboot now" The verbose upgrade output ends here, with this error: /mnt/stand/usbdevs /mnt/stand/dhclient-script 4330 blocks /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: sh: Undefined symbol "__sbmaskrune" This is the exactly the same error that I get when trying to run the local system's sh. I'm pretty sure that the sh that comes on the 6.3-RC1 CD is OK. Is the installUpgrade.c system(mv) call here: if (system("mv /boot/kernel /boot/kernel.prev")) { if (!msgYesNo("Hmmm! I couldn't move the old kernel over! Do you want to\n" "treat this as a big problem and abort the upgrade? Due to the\n" "way that this upgrade process works, you will have to reboot\n" "and start over from the beginning. Select Yes to reboot now")) systemShutdown(1); ... managing to invoke the local shell instead of the one on the CD? Not knowing any better, if local binaries are being called for some part of the upgrade, that would be a Bad Thing and I should open a PR. Royce -- Royce D. Williams - IP Engineering, ACS http://www.tycho.org/royce/ - PGP: 3FC087DB/1776A531 We are called to be architects of the future, not its victims. -Fuller From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 21:43:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D718116A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E4913C457 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBALh0RW026254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:43:26 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBALgtR8008688; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:42:55 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBALgsbj008687; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:42:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:42:54 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.999, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:43:44 -0000 On 2007-12-10 15:08, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: >Chuck Swiger wrote: >>On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>> What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all >>> mail via mx1.optonline.net): >>> >>> OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', >>> `mx2.optonline.net')dnl >> >> Look at /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and edit the SMART_HOST line as above. >> (Note that you can copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc and use the latter >> filename in order to avoid modifying the generic template file.) > > Just tried that the ISP just eats a test message (to the addr I am > sending this from) but a direct telnet to port 25 on the smart host > works fine If a direct telnet to port 25 works, then SMART_HOST should work too. Can you grab log messages from `/var/log/maillog', and post them? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 22:05:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937D716A418 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from rrzmta2.rz.uni-regensburg.de (rrzmta2.rz.uni-regensburg.de [194.94.155.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD4013C461 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from markus.hoenicka@mhoenicka.de) Received: from rrzmta2.rz.uni-regensburg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B3D1D552D8 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:47:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from yeti.mininet (rrzras1-25.rz.uni-regensburg.de [132.199.208.35]) by rrzmta2.rz.uni-regensburg.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B348754D47 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:46:55 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: emacs 21.3.1 (via feedmail 8 I); VM 7.19 under Emacs 21.3.1 From: "Markus Hoenicka" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18269.45952.738032.77678@yeti.mininet> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:45:36 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: firebird2 API woes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:05:17 -0000 [apologies for cross-posting, but freebsd-database was not able to help] Hi, I'm having a hard time connecting to a firebird 2.0.3 server installed on FreeBSD 6.1 through the C API calls. The connection code is pretty much copy+pasted from the API documentation. However, all calls to isc_attach_database() cause the client library to segfault: #1 0x2852ceb4 in return_success () from /usr/local/lib/libfbclient.so.2 #2 0x28525179 in REM_attach_database () from /usr/local/lib/libfbclient.so.2 #3 0x2851386a in isc_attach_database () from /usr/local/lib/libfbclient.so.2 #4 0x284ece8e in _dbd_real_connect () from /usr/local/lib/dbd/libdbdfirebird.so #5 0x284eba19 in dbd_connect () from /usr/local/lib/dbd/libdbdfirebird.so #6 0x2808011d in dbi_conn_connect () from /usr/local/lib/libdbi.so.0 #7 0x0804982a in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfbfea2c) at test_dbi.c:91 The database I'm trying to attach to does exist, and I can attach to it using the isql command line utility. Is this a known issue? I have to admit that I'm not too familiar with firebird. All I'm trying to do is to upgrade the firebird driver of the libdbi-drivers project (http://libdbi-drivers.sourceforge.net, also available as a FreeBSD port). I'd greatly appreciate if someone more experienced in programming for firebird could give me a hint. I'll be happy to provide all sorts of debug information if needed. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka markus.hoenicka@cats.de (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 23:17:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDFEE16A41A for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.148]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4EC13C45D for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd-questions@mawer.org) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAALJQXUfLzq3r/2dsb2JhbAAI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.24,148,1196607600"; d="scan'208";a="192656141" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.24.1.1]) ([203.206.173.235]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out3.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2007 07:48:41 +0900 Message-ID: <475DC259.6070006@mawer.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:48:57 +1100 From: Antony Mawer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Rob Messick , Tino Engel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:17:48 -0000 On 11/12/2007 2:54 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> You could make a softlink... > > Thats what raised the question I was doing ln -s > /usr/local/modules/fuse.ko /boot/kernel/fuse.ko Remember that this is the loader which will be loading the module, so if /usr is a separate partition then this will not work as /usr doesn't get mounted until much, much later in the boot process... Alternatively, if you're using your own home-brew rc script, why not just add a kldload fuse into it? --Antony From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 23:39:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411A16A41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE66B13C448 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id P7hR1Y00K0b6N640A0Pf00; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:28:32 +0000 Received: from fosgate.dyndns.org ([71.231.158.147]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PBUW1Y00a3B62Q70800000; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:28:32 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=GmzDR76lY0UA:10 a=OP5bxEb08/jyN+AGU4sEjQ==:17 a=U9_VJf3HAAAA:8 a=81ABGVOTAAAA:8 a=h-EK02-9o8v6CzYNP5gA:9 a=wAZ930wjPEiLgc8vfcYA:7 a=CskRt9UpE5WBZ43QnPUac0PjJYgA:4 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fosgate.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A40839828; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:24:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foster.cc Received: from fosgate.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sonar.foster.dmz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oXaMtPVnWcmN; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.253.48] (unknown [198.134.96.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: mdf) by fosgate.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F2839825; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:23:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475DCB8F.40600@foster.cc> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:28:15 -0800 From: "Mark D. Foster" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" References: <20071210161905.O20625@prime.gushi.org> In-Reply-To: <20071210161905.O20625@prime.gushi.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD mail forwarder and SPF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:27 -0000 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > Hello all, > > I secure my outbound e-mail with SPF. One of the ports maintainers > (garga@freebsd.org) also secures his INBOUND e-mail with SPF. > > I tried to e-mail garga about a minor doc-bug, and got a bounce, since > his mailserver didn't recognize mx2.freebsd.org as a valid MX for > danm@prime.gushi.org > The solution is @ http://www.openspf.org/FAQ/Forwarding If garga@ isn't following the recommended practice of whitelisting freebsd.org's MX servers then breakage results. That said, mx2.freebsd.org is NOT LISTED as an MX of freebsd.org, so maybe that is contributing to the problem. -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP http://mark.foster.cc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 10 23:40:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F6716A41B for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D1413C448 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBANdwFX020702; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBANdpUo020701; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:51 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20071210233951.GB20586@thought.org> References: <20071207213712.GA27586@thought.org> <4759D1B3.8020101@math.arizona.edu> <20071208040446.GA68355@thought.org> <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , Predrag Punosevac , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DVD's and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:03 -0000 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:23:52PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > >On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 04:05:23PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > >>Gary Kline wrote: > >>> Update: > >>> > >>> Well, totem chokes when trying to play a DVD, > >>Totem is not good DVD player and that has to do nothing with the > >>FreeBSD, OpenBSD or whatever Linux you want to use. You may read > >>here why is so difficult to use DVDs > >>http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html > > > > I will see why totem just-works {TM} with Ubuntu. While here it > > is missing plugin, etc...... > >>Ogle is by far the best DVD player but VLC and MPlayer are able to play > >>stunning number of different proprietary and non-proprietary video and > >>audio formats. > > I know that comment about ogle certainly used to be correct. but I think > that may possibly be dated information. My FreeBSD machine is pretty > new, squeaky-clean, and all of the following dvd players (ones which I > have tried so far, doesn't mean they're the only ones either) work just > great: vlc, xine, ogle. Even though kmplayer works, I found it's > interface (which uses mplayer and xine as backends) ssmed a little clunky. ogle fails due to some permissions problem: ERROR[ogle_nav]: faild to open/read the DVD DVDSetDVDRoot:: Root not set p3 15:23 [1683] With kmplayer, altho it works with virtually everything, it is a bi t"clunky". Also, it will not show the menu part of my DVD. So far, vlc wins (in my lineup). But it's not intuitive at all. A cheet-sheet of the 50 top places to click would be a plus. > > Anyhow, it might be time for taking another looksee. All 3 of those > )vlc, ogle, xine) were really sharp and easy to use, good 5.1 audio > using my optically connected sound system. > > > It may be my last contribution befoore I cash out, but I *will* do a thorough, reable piece on gtting k3b to work. ...Hopefuully! gary > > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 00:42:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F019E16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=YI/icCQ6=RC=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from mail.asarian-host.net (mail.asarian-host.net [194.109.160.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7903813C458 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=YI/icCQ6=RC=asarian-host.net=admin@asarian-host.net) Received: from queuerun.asarian-host.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.asarian-host.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBB0gIEx005484 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:42:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from admin@asarian-host.net) DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; h=from:received-spf:message-id:date:x-authenticated-sender:subject:x-trace:organization:to:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; c=nofws; s=anon; d=asarian-host.net; b=F0YIdhWFV+CZXxdbnMukpNMEq0QjJ+jBg1eQ68ahaKDskuJJAsD0ocJvg5ABG7OQnCuJQ5u/VC+F/49mUV23BkQf8Y152nKE5ib6ORbYRmT96b41jlLeW7vr65JW8tW6OiZvuRSB8FfXubqsz6fhdi+Es0cME7I5aztdzEjo8+8= From: Mark Received-SPF: pass (asarian-host.net: 127.0.0.1 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) receiver=anonymizer.asarian-host.net; client-ip=127.0.0.1; envelope-from=; helo=clientrunner.asarian-host.net; Message-Id: <200712110027.lBB0Ratn004398@asarian-host.net> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:27:37 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: admin@asarian-host.net X-Trace: tdx440xxh8Jg1PxGIOgCNe7IHFuMuVC4WGWlDtlAl9Rz9nGCuW25eD9Ay08CckwH X-Complaints-To: abuse@asarian-host.net X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, otherwise we are unable to process your complaint X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on asarian-host.net Organization: Asarian-host To: References: <20071210161905.O20625@prime.gushi.org> <475DCB8F.40600@foster.cc> In-Reply-To: <475DCB8F.40600@foster.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: nl Cc: Subject: RE: FreeBSD mail forwarder and SPF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:42:20 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Mark D. Foster Sent: dinsdag 11 december 2007 0:40 To: Dan Mahoney, System Admin Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD mail forwarder and SPF > The solution is @ http://www.openspf.org/FAQ/Forwarding > If garga@ isn't following the recommended practice of whitelisting > freebsd.org's MX servers then breakage results. That said, > mx2.freebsd.org is NOT LISTED as an MX of freebsd.org, so maybe that > is contributing to the problem. Like you said, if he wants to send mail through the FreeBSD server, using his prime.gushi.org domain, he should add "ip4:69.147.83.53" to his SPF records for that domain (or do some SRS forward rewriting). But what's mx2.freebsd.org not being listed as an MX of freebsd.org got to do with SPF?? There's no requirement, whatsoever, for mx2.freebsd.org to be an official FreeBSD MX record. Who cares? FreeBSD includes "ip4:69.147.83.53" in its SPF records (which is mx2.freebsd.org). That's all SPF needs to know. - Mark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 00:56:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBB916A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RC=4d751832@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9051113C46A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RC=4d751832@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CF1D05A4 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:50 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211005650.4b88b06f@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071210233951.GB20586@thought.org> References: <20071207213712.GA27586@thought.org> <4759D1B3.8020101@math.arizona.edu> <20071208040446.GA68355@thought.org> <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> <20071210233951.GB20586@thought.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DVD's and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:56:55 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:51 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > With kmplayer, altho it works with virtually everything, > it is a bi t"clunky". Also, it will not show the menu part > of my DVD. So far, vlc wins (in my lineup). But it's not > intuitive at all. A cheet-sheet of the 50 top places to > click would be a plus. Have you tried using Xine directly? Personally I don't much like VLC on UNIX, I think its reputation comes from good experiences on Windows. I've never seem VLC do anything that at least one of mplayer or xine wouldn't do better, and it seems to be the least successful of the three in playing obscure formats. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 00:57:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8467016A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RC=4d751832@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A2913C43E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RC=4d751832@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5431641F1 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:26:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9980BD05A2 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:26:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:26:36 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211002636.430ca2b5@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <475DCB8F.40600@foster.cc> References: <20071210161905.O20625@prime.gushi.org> <475DCB8F.40600@foster.cc> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD mail forwarder and SPF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:57:00 -0000 On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:28:15 -0800 "Mark D. Foster" wrote: > The solution is @ http://www.openspf.org/FAQ/Forwarding > If garga@ isn't following the recommended practice of whitelisting > freebsd.org's MX servers then breakage results. That said, > mx2.freebsd.org is NOT LISTED as an MX of freebsd.org, so maybe that > is contributing to the problem. > SPF doesn't care whether email is sent from an MX server. mx2.freebsd.org is listed in the SPF record, but that doesn't really matter much unless they implement the "Sender Rewriting Scheme" in their forwarder. SRS should eliminate the rejection problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 01:41:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309D416A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9441013C467 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so688205pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:41:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2Q4ejZ5L3LVJ06N5SBCn01l5FMQ3Qt7xyX3pbTwGZKw=; b=NFyz57u0V8Ad40jKVKsCLEoTlWkBFBjM8Fl2OCJSBfS8/cDUciNlJH/aEs9G7EkG5zGQkez2AO7O9s0JMwU4CpW7wRocBJpzXa0/FRGK6aIOXzuWMxqDDQ7pf+ltvk575f14JosvkixbJnkZvhFZaDUEkDdzmrv3Uf+0Gi8tBH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aAR2cyTZvl9KViv+CFWQvZQ5MDAChImyc3WVIiZ/FBkzaz9LhvKOMLpbSEnU4eewclbD0MXW1olh8TFqZ5f9NIn9z4pU9/v4mCV8Z+dTewfllqJRbGGHVlP0UBo8dEWSwLEJn7f1IuM6P/y2NanGAHVXNltNgFNy6j3huAvsiDk= Received: by 10.65.107.10 with SMTP id j10mr15502790qbm.1197337313181; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:41:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.107.3 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:41:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:41:53 -0500 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <475D402D.1080000@gmail.com> <475D92C8.7020404@gmail.com> <475D4CDB.1070608@gmail.com> <475DA681.7070302@web.de> <475D6127.60801@gmail.com> <475DC259.6070006@mawer.org> Subject: loading modules not in /boot/kernel from loader.conf X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:41:55 -0000 I have had bad experiences with loading modules anywhere except /boot/loader.conf and even so there is some hacking in the rc to make it work fine for example: (sleep 5;ntfs-3g ....)& is the last line in the rc > > Remember that this is the loader which will be loading the > module, so if /usr is a separate partition then this will not work as > /usr doesn't get mounted until much, much later in the boot process... > > Alternatively, if you're using your own home-brew rc script, why not > just add a kldload fuse into it? > > --Antony > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 02:49:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2F916A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719E313C455 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so749029pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:49:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zm99WX9+ON5ytDPJcxrHlgoSyNtcfZq33KyNZ/2yYpQ=; b=LJ9JN99j2eWlRyPmc06CqxiUrycT78WY+SmJT+5fMSv0XxP7lrVmNNqnAh8Whkl+wV9FI6vPTqDFoTTsyTeOEnftWPdErtePGpJjAZDxdJkgOS067fgvxzWlWX9Zx0/6/PqQ/OQHx17QR12jqoRJULH9e27Uk6bjjnFIsHGem6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jXrcpW5/xXQX6+Me0FQy4u3R/WdEBWoHQrqTcfWCk+eu6UqYb3/lOeDr/mgB4PhYOaq7K/p8DouhDQmp47M8I+pEo8oV1RrKcdPAC2gnNEApFIuWqVgh09XBrTMcsFIpu8wLLvj5A6XrNKTK8FLWVD0TCqyyl3fjN9cR0N6QuDk= Received: by 10.64.209.6 with SMTP id h6mr15629323qbg.1197341371019; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e19sm3379329qba.2007.12.10.18.49.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:49:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475DB466.8030706@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:49:26 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: triple boot loader X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:49:32 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have vista+freebsd (both boot well off btx) and fedora (which doesn't boot at all of the current btx install I have)... I want to keep btx instead of having to reconfigure for grub or some piece of linux (*&(*&(*&... help? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXbRmzIOMjAek4JIRAqP/AKCbpuTHKMkwZPlzc2/coVpGWZqb7ACfURUb hGZPB1biL2604sC2Us0T3ik= =7/L+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 03:00:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB6016A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:00:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CC7013C45B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so759544pyb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=w1kqZZN/6lZyqQQQNX92SX2LQAeeGw5X2D1ps+cU518=; b=bHazglQaGdPh/Chx32OibSFoGtFwEDFmjLf4c3aCeI1+o4mQB1P7zjepG/hInM9DSsoN5FNK2Wu7Ynft79dcmhcTkEAQQGNj5oGx22YglLGHQMBFDaZa21mA0oGc38Nds8Xp/+98WcctcBRTWZRizkAOdsF9kuCr3Sv1i4Y1aMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XcZz2d7ZZMIYGxD3LYXp0cYbL2wuptwR5o8XktKHCwn5pcpnNJeP70TMEuPIVV5WHvp743LnRupwQEcVFXl31gC+8Mdz3MYd3dHchnN2KA/9v/cLChODcbshoPHvLg2k1d26qgpX+UYw2GDTBGYE2fJdg5n8n1e8/Ff1qBsQj3s= Received: by 10.65.100.14 with SMTP id c14mr15625940qbm.1197342057687; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e11sm3407232qbc.2007.12.10.19.00.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:00:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:00:51 +0000 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:00:59 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-10 15:08, "Aryeh M. Friedman" > wrote: >> Chuck Swiger wrote: >>> On Dec 10, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: >>>> What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send >>>> all mail via mx1.optonline.net): >>>> >>>> OSTYPE(`freebsd6')dnl define(`SMART_HOST', >>>> `mx2.optonline.net')dnl >>> Look at /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and edit the SMART_HOST line as >>> above. (Note that you can copy freebsd.mc to hostname.mc and >>> use the latter filename in order to avoid modifying the generic >>> template file.) >> Just tried that the ISP just eats a test message (to the addr I >> am sending this from) but a direct telnet to port 25 on the smart >> host works fine > > If a direct telnet to port 25 works, then SMART_HOST should work > too. > > Can you grab log messages from `/var/log/maillog', and post them? > > Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 completely unchanged before and after I attempted to sendmail to my self (after a reboot but not a restart of sendmail [I have a handcrafted /etc/rc so I know it doesn't run sendmail on boot]) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXbcTzIOMjAek4JIRAun7AJ45Ob3ud9v+9iSzpX4LbJfT664VHwCglfKr /6kkyEAuM2iPbU/9EIbb6LU= =XkM6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 03:18:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5942C16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC05513C43E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 4883 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2007 03:18:48 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2007 03:18:47 -0000 Message-ID: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:18:40 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:18:51 -0000 Hi, I wonder what the performance impact of the entries in /etc/hosts really is. What is your experience? Google tells me a lot of hosts running FreeBSD but I could not find anything regarding the hosts file itself. I use hosts for filtering all unwanted content on my personal machine. I run currently 6.2. Thanks! Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 03:19:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30BA16A41B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lveax.m@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BCC513C45D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lveax.m@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so479795anc for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:19:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=r5dEoDoVO+xRD1GoFqZPj9H3wr8ZccTewTV6NxVM/Gg=; b=w4m3eDDO3NCDYxZn1uvGuhUTi6vBEmA5/1CO6LKnJnNVL4z39c0yLndKcbjcQiOo/b4nBSqto8i6ninze53pZfhnNBBufKmE2q+FGC7qC4y58m/SLRPTaalX8jvGcgKT6ArwgAfM8tokFzigJn72PPSuN1h4auXZF+fB4CRuhA4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XTZpEfLlo7Yw4si7EKFFl31+MJKU3cajIrPMXir292sTsT0Cghnp1tokAY30S2/J/oq2/LGEEkbYbDEBui+M3zgvmpq38ykv0DjdAdoXrdbXuQNepyRsfcKuiKAp18m/FJQrWuVcxB0XQCcoSZ6Yd2qqJ3zkbAl/DY5wq7yqwEA= Received: by 10.100.239.11 with SMTP id m11mr15906176anh.1197343196809; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:19:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.32.1 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:19:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <576dcbc20712101919v58784955ka3d98a7c1aa017a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 03:19:56 +0000 From: lveax To: freebsd-questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: does freebsd support Vostro 1400 notebook? 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Business....................... $ 69.95 Academic (For schools, governments, municipalities, reference centers).......................$ 149.95 Pdf cd-rom..........................$ 69.95 Printed.............................$149.95 (430 pages) Order directly at Canadian Publications: Toll free line: *866-322-3376* or local *819-322-5756 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 04:13:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6228816A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3210313C448 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from toni.schrodinger.com (toni.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.56]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBB4DZtI063093; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:13:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [10.10.18.38] (sub22-20.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.22.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by toni.schrodinger.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lBB4DYom085727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:13:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <475E0E69.7090806@schrodinger.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:13:29 -0800 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071117) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DAve References: <003e01c81cf2$27ff3840$77fda8c0$@com> <472A9D99.7000102@pixelhammer.com> In-Reply-To: <472A9D99.7000102@pixelhammer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]); Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:13:35 -0800 (PST) Cc: 'User Questions' Subject: Re: Duplicate existing FreeBSD Server in VM X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:13:36 -0000 DAve wrote: > Terry Sposato wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have just installed a machine and have it setup running a web based CRM >> solution. I want to have an exact duplicate of this machine running as a VM >> for redundancy reasons. >> >> >> >> What is the best way to go about getting this exact machine transferred to >> the VM? Both machines exist on the same network and will be able to talk to >> each other, I have been thinking of a couple of different ways to get all my >> data across which is the easy part, but I want to match everything that is >> installed, base system, ports etc. >> >> >> >> Anyone have any ideas or point me into the right direction? >> >> > > You can use dump over ssh easily enough, here are my notes from using it > to create multiple production machines from a single test server. There > are better ways I am sure, but this is quick and easy if you are > familiar with FreeBSD installs. > > Note #1 In the first comment line I say to boot the live file system CD, > that is what you would do in the VM, just as you would normally boot an > installer CD, but use a Live filesystem CD instead. > > Note #2 I used several slices with sizes some may not agree with. It was > a choice we made for various reasons, the servers have been running for > three years. You may have more or less slices of varying sizes, adjust > the steps below to your preferences. > > Note #3 You will need to check and WRITE DOWN which slice is which mount > point, /, /var, /usr and so on. Your disks may be different if you > choose not to create a seperate /tmp, or /var. > > I'll be out of the office for a week, but you can try and adjust as > needed, it won't hurt anything and you can always overwrite and try > again. WRITE IT DOWN. > > Works for us, I've used it several times, adjusting as needed for the > system I am cloning. > > DAve > > ==================================================== > > # boot live filesystem cd > # use disklabel to check/create slices > /stand/sysinstall > /dev/ad0s1b 256mb swap > /dev/ad0s1a 256mb /mnt/ufs.1 softupdates > /dev/ad0s1e 256mb /mnt/ufs.2 softupdates > /dev/ad0s1d 256mb /mnt/ufs.3 softupdates > /dev/ad0s1f all /mnt/ufs.4 softupdates > /dev/ad1s1d 20000mb /mnt/ufs.5 > > # unmount the new slices > umount /mnt/ufs.1 > umount /mnt/ufs.2 > umount /mnt/ufs.3 > umount /mnt/ufs.4 > umount /mnt/ufs.5 > > # make newfs on each slice > newnfs /dev/ad0s1a > newnfs /dev/ad0s1e > newnfs /dev/ad0s1f > newnfs /dev/ad0s1d > newnfs /dev/ad1s1d > > # remount the slices > mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/ad0s1a /mnt/ufs.1 > mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/ad0s1e /mnt/ufs.2 > mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/ad0s1d /mnt/ufs.3 > mount -t ufs -o rw /dev/ad0s1f /mnt/ufs.4 > > # fetch the filesystems from the test server > # you will need to enable root ssh access on the test server for this. > cd /mnt/ufs.1 > ssh root@10.0.240.130 dump -0L -f - /dev/ad0s1a | restore -rf - /dev/ad0s1a > cd /mnt/ufs.2 > ssh root@10.0.240.130 dump -0L -f - /dev/ad0s1e | restore -rf - /dev/ad0s1e > cd /mnt/ufs.3 > ssh root@10.0.240.130 dump -0L -f - /dev/ad0s1f | restore -rf - /dev/ad0s1f > cd /mnt/ufs.4 > ssh root@10.0.240.130 dump -0L -f - /dev/ad0s1d | restore -rf - /dev/ad0s1d > > # change the following entries in rc.conf, remember everything is > mounted under /mnt! > # X = the ecluster number 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, etc. > hostname="new_server_X" > ifconfig_em0="inet 10.0.240.13X netmask 255.255.255.0" > > Reboot the new server, it should come up just fine. > > > Your instructions is very helpful. When using on 4.11, "-L" seems not working with dump. Also I have one question, I clone file system from one machine to another different type of machine. The source machine's file system is on /dev/da0s1, but destination's is on /dev/ad0s1. Then I run following to update boot loader: fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/ad0 bsdlabel -B /dev/ad0s1 However, the cloned system can't find kernel on reboot. What am I missing? Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 04:44:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE15916A421 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFD613C455 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:44:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from twickline@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so2054336rvb for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:44:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tArXcjpi/oWdmpyoa53rl16eO6d+U5Ai7tNuwsAFQxk=; b=eH1OltO7ME+x4oepAgZbuQ7NAgeuR3Pkdk5/oxq1hApfALNmw42AGeQ+6NNq+ilQ/jOAaQkaoYcM8/RK9SFvkImostPCcBSRvzRaYFAaKuLyNvabTQqYaqlHdtNPfxqUzKZK4jrFLhGy4hBsLU8cl4LS9ijw765HyDrnN+V+wg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ulIMgxV2v/npxCWE3dc9PIkS/eLvSwjTC7fEUl0tcJlKQD8C7JnToCyK/2A/2XDKKggpQXJxBCiBD4jioMx+ugHeZbSUXwUMmInjM3FsGZxFggYcPrCcJnuRq9bKBBVTOwIfvCjXuJhe5IBAUfc5Suw03ka386wNyYv3tE497gM= Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr3426870wfh.1197348295755; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.98.3 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:44:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <53e3a9930712102044v768e794fq118e2fe3d6d2fa0d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:44:55 -0500 From: "Tom Wickline" To: "Brett Glass" In-Reply-To: <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:15:17 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:44:56 -0000 On Dec 10, 2007 11:41 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned > the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep > the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it > as a result. > > --Brett Glass > Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you have no idea why the licence was changed! Tom From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 05:00:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416B116A41B; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from lariat.net (lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248D913C458; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brett@lariat.net) Received: from anne-o1dpaayth1.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.net@lariat.net [66.119.58.2]) by lariat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA05322; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:41:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:41:24 -0700 To: "Tom Wickline" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:23:28 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:00:32 -0000 It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it as a result. --Brett Glass At 10:59 AM 12/6/2007, Tom Wickline wrote: >Oh yea, were seeking contributors... if your interested in Wine on >FreeBSD and believe you can >help us out see : >http://wine-review.blogspot.com/2007/12/wine-review-is-currently-seeking.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 05:49:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E3C16A421 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: from mail.networktest.com (mail.networktest.com [207.181.8.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9A113C47E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:49:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dnewman@networktest.com) Received: by mail.networktest.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id EDFC178C57; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:49:42 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail.networktest.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_PBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from lion.local (cpe-75-82-195-55.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.195.55]) by mail.networktest.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BC578C54 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:49:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475E24EF.7040601@networktest.com> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:49:35 -0800 From: David Newman Organization: Network Test Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: preserving device symlinks across reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:49:43 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To use ntpd with an HP GPS receiver on RELENG-6.2, I have a symlink from the first serial port to the HP GPS device: somehost# ls -l /dev/hpgps0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 Dec 1 21:06 /dev/hpgps0 -> /dev/cuad0 This works fine since the GPS receiver is attached to cuad0. Problem is, this symlink disappears whenever a reboot is needed, for example after patching the kernel. How best to preserve the symlink across reboots? I created an rc.local file making a new symlink, but maybe there's a better way. thanks dn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHXiTvyPxGVjntI4IRAtEZAKDyOsiRL1ilB3yUwGGH79IeZ65l6QCgrc2V OfqdzIvR9ua1kVtD+bdCzRc= =pfFP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 06:10:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5696616A49C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:10:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118F313C504 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:10:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.189] (port=51716 helo=smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1yK3-0003Fz-SI; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:10:27 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4853 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1yK3-00032q-9Y; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:10:27 +0100 Received: from www.boosten.org (localhost.egypt.nl [127.0.0.1]) by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB2139885; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:10:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from 212.159.200.167 (proxying for 172.21.129.43) (SquirrelMail authenticated user peter) by www.boosten.org with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:10:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50099.212.159.200.167.1197353426.squirrel@www.boosten.org> In-Reply-To: <475E24EF.7040601@networktest.com> References: <475E24EF.7040601@networktest.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:10:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Peter Boosten" To: "David Newman" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: preserving device symlinks across reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:10:30 -0000 On Tue, December 11, 2007 06:49, David Newman wrote: > > How best to preserve the symlink across reboots? I created an rc.local > file making a new symlink, but maybe there's a better way. > Have a look at /etc/devfs.conf man 5 devfs.conf Peter --=20 http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 06:12:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DC716A46C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FD513C45A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E3DB91D1A3; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:12:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.177.205] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J1yLn-0000ql-00; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:12:16 +0100 Message-ID: <475E2A78.8000800@web.de> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:13:12 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Newman References: <475E24EF.7040601@networktest.com> In-Reply-To: <475E24EF.7040601@networktest.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/BCaDF/GkLG9YY0rzxBdQL8YD1WDR2u+3DVPlJ 31ohuyS7D0an93znHMEaaUQGnldEw5m/6qu2em9EqNCVSzVPz4 CwVpWcdWs= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: preserving device symlinks across reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:12:17 -0000 David Newman schrieb: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > To use ntpd with an HP GPS receiver on RELENG-6.2, I have a symlink from > the first serial port to the HP GPS device: > > somehost# ls -l /dev/hpgps0 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 Dec 1 21:06 /dev/hpgps0 -> /dev/cuad0 > > This works fine since the GPS receiver is attached to cuad0. > > Problem is, this symlink disappears whenever a reboot is needed, for > example after patching the kernel. > > How best to preserve the symlink across reboots? I created an rc.local > file making a new symlink, but maybe there's a better way. > > thanks > > dn > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) > > iD8DBQFHXiTvyPxGVjntI4IRAtEZAKDyOsiRL1ilB3yUwGGH79IeZ65l6QCgrc2V > OfqdzIvR9ua1kVtD+bdCzRc= > =pfFP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Check out 'man devfs.conf' Greez, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 06:39:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7407316A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com [69.89.18.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 42C9813C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 29792 invoked by uid 0); 11 Dec 2007 06:39:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 06:39:54 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1ymY-00085J-Nr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:54 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBB6drXL003346 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBB6dqSi003345 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:39:52 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211063952.GA3326@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:39:55 -0000 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:41:24PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned > the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep > the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it > as a result. Somehow I missed that. Was there any discussion of a fork? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Dr. Ron Paul: "Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 06:40:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6F216A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-11.bluehost.com [69.89.18.111]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0BD3613C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 30898 invoked by uid 0); 11 Dec 2007 06:40:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 06:40:23 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J1yn1-00089z-Hs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:23 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBB6eM2s003363 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBB6eLgo003362 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:40:21 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211064021.GB3326@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> <53e3a9930712102044v768e794fq118e2fe3d6d2fa0d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712102044v768e794fq118e2fe3d6d2fa0d@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:40:24 -0000 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:44:55PM -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > > Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you > have no idea why > the licence was changed! So . . . why was it changed? -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Leon Festinger: "A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts and figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 06:53:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727A416A468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D4213C46A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:53:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBB6r2Dh096851; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Paul Schmehl" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:54:04 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <29AC3FE3BEC7674A5BDA299F@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: CD/DVD writer no longer works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:53:04 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Paul Schmehl > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:34 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: CD/DVD writer no longer works > > > --On Thursday, December 06, 2007 19:14:51 +0100 Wojciech Puchar > wrote: > > >> /home/pauls/Downloads/FreeBSD/6.2-RELEASE-amd64-disc1.iso fixate > >> burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCWRITESPEED): Input/output error > >> root@utd59514# mount /dev/acd > >> acd0 acd1 > >> root@utd59514# mount /dev/acd1 /mnt/cdrom/ > >> mount: /dev/acd1: Input/output error > > > > mount_cd9660 - unless you use FFS on CD/DVD. > > Yeah, I knew that. Just mistyped it. The results are the same in either > case - input/output error. > > >> CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > >> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > >> Sense Bytes: 70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 3A 00 00 00 > 00 00 00 00 > >> 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > >> Sense Key: 0x2 Not Ready, Segment 0 > >> Sense Code: 0x3A Qual 0x00 (medium not present) Fru 0x0 > >> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) > >> cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s > >> cdrecord: No disk / Wrong disk! > >> > > > > looks like your device is broken - reports no disk > > Does this provide any additional information? > root@utd59514# atacontrol cap acd1 > > Protocol ATA/ATAPI revision 5 > device model TSSTcorpCD-RW TS-H292B > serial number > firmware revision DE03 > cylinders 0 > heads 0 > sectors/track 0 > lba supported > lba48 not supported > dma supported > overlap not supported > > Feature Support Enable Value Vendor > write cache no no > read ahead no no > Tagged Command Queuing (TCQ) no no 0/0x00 > SMART no no > microcode download no no > security no no > power management yes yes > advanced power management no no 0/0x00 > automatic acoustic management no no 0/0x00 0/0x00 > > The result of this command doesn't change if there's a known good > CD in the > drive. And are you saying that the *device* appears to be bad? Or the > *driver* appears to be bad? Is there a way to confirm this > (utility? test > process?) > Blow CD drive out real well with a can of compressed air. You might have dust obscuring the optical pickup that tells the drive that there's a disk in it. If that doesen't work, then scrap the drive. New ones are very cheap. Or better yet get yourself a nice DVD burner. You can confirm the drive is bad by testing it under Windows. This is assuming of course that you don't trust FreeBSD. Presumably you have access to another system you can swap the drive out with. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 07:15:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1307A16A46C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE59213C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:15:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F8139824; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:15:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475E391B.2000505@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:15:39 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Smith References: <475C7B8A.5000908@locolomo.org> <2C799BA1-729E-4990-A80F-1C840AD53D9B@adhost.com> In-Reply-To: <2C799BA1-729E-4990-A80F-1C840AD53D9B@adhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:15:41 -0000 Michael Smith wrote: >> I simply let my register transfer the zone file daily, works fine. >> If you need to update the zone file regularly just reduce the max >> age of the zone. > > Hello Erik: > > Well, aside from doing a *lot* of queries, it's nice to have a single > IP address fronting a set of servers so I can pull one out for > maintenance at any time and it doesn't affect name resolution for the > clients. Well, if you search google for "pf round robin load balance" you will find this first: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/pools.html There is an example of how to do just what you want, although they use a web server in the example. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 07:21:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED44C16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay011.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F10113C474 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes Received: from 167.209-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.244.209.167]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2007 08:21:22 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:18:05 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211071805.GA12508@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <20071210083514.GA8145@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> <7CCCF7D68C9EEF7338B04419@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7CCCF7D68C9EEF7338B04419@utd59514.utdallas.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Userdir mod in apache2.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:21:25 -0000 On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:13:58AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Monday, December 10, 2007 09:35:14 +0100 "Alain G. Fabry" > wrote: > > >Apache/2.2.6 (FreeBSD) > >PHP Version 5.2.5 > >FreeBSD 6.2 > > > >Trying to get the userdir module to work but it seems to fail all the > >time due to 'You don't have permissions....' > > > ............ > > > > >But I just cannot get my userdir to functions correctly. > > > >What am I missing? > > Post the results of this: > grep ServerName /usr/local/etc/apache22/httpd.conf > > -- Not sure why this would matter but here we go anyway, # ServerName gives the name and port that the server uses to identify itself. ServerName localhost:80 FYI, I'm trying http://localhost/~username/ on the local machine (webserver), so I assume that the ServerName doesn't matter. > Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) > Senior Information Security Analyst > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 07:57:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F6916A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9DF13C43E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBB7uxZQ023298; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:57:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBB7uso5023297; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:56:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:56:53 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20071211075653.GA23269@thought.org> References: <20071207213712.GA27586@thought.org> <4759D1B3.8020101@math.arizona.edu> <20071208040446.GA68355@thought.org> <475DA058.4030002@chuckr.org> <20071210233951.GB20586@thought.org> <20071211005650.4b88b06f@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071211005650.4b88b06f@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DVD's and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:57:01 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 12:56:50AM +0000, RW wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:39:51 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > With kmplayer, altho it works with virtually everything, > > it is a bi t"clunky". Also, it will not show the menu part > > of my DVD. So far, vlc wins (in my lineup). But it's not > > intuitive at all. A cheet-sheet of the 50 top places to > > click would be a plus. > > Have you tried using Xine directly? > > Personally I don't much like VLC on UNIX, I think its reputation comes > from good experiences on Windows. I've never seem VLC do anything that > at least one of mplayer or xine wouldn't do better, and it seems to be > the least successful of the three in playing obscure formats. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list Xiiine? not yet, but intend to....... Right now I'm wedged trying to copy a 6 gig DVD into a 4.7GB blank. Things keep failing, and I do not know WHAT I'm doing wrong. they have vlc for windows??? hmm, goood, iiiiiii s'pose. > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 08:21:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDEB16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:21:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E02C13C458 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBB8LndG023677 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBB8LnQD023676 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:21:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:21:49 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071211082149.GA23613@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:21:50 -0000 Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, using both my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning a DVD that is larger than thee default. This time I'm using a documentary that I own, so there is nothing wrong in making a backup. Results: Same thing as happened with the other commercially created DVD. K3B reads the disk flawlessly, but growisofs fails (perhaps) to do its thing. In any case, the program complains that there is not enough space on the blank and spits out the disk. I've tried replacing "auto" with "generic-mmc-raw" on the Lit-On burner. Nope. Anybody other suggestions? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 10:28:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248C216A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:28:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9AE13C455 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:28:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michel@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.8/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id lBBASCh8081840 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:28:12 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 165 Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA68D23724C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:28:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (Postfix, from userid 2005) id C7C3880; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:28:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:28:10 +0100 From: Michel Talon To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20071211102810.GA99652@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:28:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/5090/Tue Dec 11 11:08:19 2007 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 475E663C.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Cc: Subject: Re: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:28:14 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, using both > my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning a DVD that is > larger than thee default. How do want this to work? You have to recompress the initial DVD stream, and for that there is an excellent program to run under your KDE account (k9copy). -- Michel TALON From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 10:40:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D093C16A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6A413C4D5 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBBAe4dc099112; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:40:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" , "Malcolm Kay" Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:41:08 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20071209101050.GD4442@thought.org> Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:40:07 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 2:11 AM > To: Malcolm Kay > Cc: Gary Kline; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. > > > On Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 01:56:55PM +1030, Malcolm Kay wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 07:33 am, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > IFF k3b works, and I think it might, I'll put up a howto > > > on my bsd virtual site. Make this domain more useful. > > > The help from this group has been outstanding, but getting things > > > CD and DVD actually working has been a study in persseverancce. > > > > > I don't use k3b so what capability it has is not known to me. > > So far I've only used it to burn CD's; beyond that ... . > > > > > That said, first,if there is a website for total dweebs, please > > > post it; or send it privately. I just bought some "Memorex > > > DVD+RW" ; I want to record a 117 minute commercial DVD. > > > On the back on the DVDs is says these are only good for 60 minutes > > > in great qualty; it is good up to 120 minutes, and so on. > > > > The nominal capacity of the single sided DVD is 120 minutes but some 32 > > different definitions are recognised including: > > EP -- extended play - 360 minutes > > LP -- long play - 240 minutes > > SP -- standard play - 120 minutes > > FINE - 60 minutes > > But how are you getting your source? What definition is it in? > > The back of the disc says: "Aprox 117 minutes"; so evidently it was > mastered in SP. If there are *32* defs, man, I miht as well throw in > the towel and go back to my Shostakovich. (Unless these definitions are > largely air (== "PR stuff, aka hype). > Hi Gary, You mentioned you wanted to record a 117 minute COMMERCIAL dvd. Now, before I continue let me explain that doing so is illegal in the US. All commercial DVD's are encrypted and the DMCA makes decrypting of them illegal, it even makes it illegal to give someone a copy of a program that will decrypt them, it makes it illegal to even write and post online the source code to such a program. It is NOT illegal to print up such source code in a paper book and sell it - the authors of DMCA wanted to duck the 1st amendment - Google DeCSS for an understanding of the controversy. With this in mind understand that CSS was broken years ago. Because of this, the DVD producers figured out that copying wasn't much of an obstacle to the unwashed masses, particulary when free programs for Windows began to show up. Many people with children have found that they accumulate a large number of Disney videos. They have also found the kids tend to scratch the shit out of them. So there is a large interest in being able to copy these things and store the masters safely away, then give the kids the copy to destroy. So all copying of commercial DVD's is not for piracy and I think people who assert this are moronic idiots. Further, with Disney DVD's, Disney lately has taken to inserting commercials for Disney cruise lines and other garbage into the DVD's that are NOT skippable with a normal DVD player. Responsible parents do not wish their kids to view this crap and so naturally there is another reason to copy these - to remaster them to prune out these commercials so the kids don't view them. Also illegal under the law as the copyright holder hasn't given you permission to do this. Anyway, Disney is greedy and wishes people to continue to buy replacement DVD's for ones they already own, and they want to push their crappy and junky cruise lines. So they take a dim view of copying. They know the CSS has been broken so these days they use all manner of different copy protection. One system is to intentionally press the DVD with some sectors using invalid CRC's thus a regular block ISO copy program will hit these sectors and assume the DVD is bad and abort. The menu on the DVD avoids these sectors, naturally. The latest trick is to damage the filesystem on the DVD in such a way as to make the DVD readable by a DVD player but not by a computer DVD drive. Pirates of Carribean 3 has that one, for example. There are many other copy protection tricks, it is a cat-and-mouse game that entire websites are devoted to following. Interestingly, since so many of these schemes utterly violate the DVD standards, companies like Disney are not allowed to use the official DVD logos on the boxes that they package their DVD's on. That is why Disney for example has their own logo - Disney DVD - which is meaningless under the standard. So far, of the HD formats, HD-DVD encryption has also been cracked and Blue Ray has not. That is why this Christmas Disney is pushing Blue Ray and isn't making their movie titles available in HD-DVD. Anyway, the fact is that none of the open source DVD copying programs can really deal with these advanced systems. They can deal with CSS but that's it. If your plan is to copy commercial DVD's for your own use, you should be aware of all this. Right now, the most advanced DVD cracking programs that will deal with ALL of the perverted copy protection schemes in use are only available as commercial programs for Windows. (Some trialware, some not) And none are available over-the-counter in the US, you have to download them from foreign websites. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 10:50:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6237616A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3650413C46E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBBAo7NN099189; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:50:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:51:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20071211082149.GA23613@thought.org> Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:50:09 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:22 AM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... > > > > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, > using both my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning > a DVD that is larger than thee default. This time I'm using a > documentary that I own, so there is nothing wrong in making a > backup. Results: Same thing as happened with the other > commercially created DVD. > > K3B reads the disk flawlessly, but growisofs fails (perhaps) to do > its thing. In any case, the program complains that there is not > enough space on the blank and spits out the disk. > > I've tried replacing "auto" with "generic-mmc-raw" on the Lit-On > burner. Nope. Anybody other suggestions? > Well you can start by purchasing a DVD writer that can burn double layer DVDs and purchase double layer media to burn it with. Most DVD drives will read double layer media but not many burners will write it. The media also costs a fortune. You must reauthor your DVD. You have 2 choices. First, you can read in the video file and split it in half. Then burn the first have to one DVD and the second half to the other DVD Second you can read it in then use a higher compression rate. Of course this will really degrade the video quality. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 10:55:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90FC416A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640DE13C45B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBBAt8Ae099227; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:55:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" , "Gary Kline" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:56:12 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Cc: Subject: RE: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:55:10 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:51 AM > To: Gary Kline; FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: RE: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gary Kline > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:22 AM > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Subject: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... > > > > > > > > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, > > using both my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning > > a DVD that is larger than thee default. This time I'm using a > > documentary that I own, so there is nothing wrong in making a > > backup. Results: Same thing as happened with the other > > commercially created DVD. > > > > K3B reads the disk flawlessly, but growisofs fails (perhaps) to do > > its thing. In any case, the program complains that there is not > > enough space on the blank and spits out the disk. > > > > I've tried replacing "auto" with "generic-mmc-raw" on the Lit-On > > burner. Nope. Anybody other suggestions? > > > > Well you can start by purchasing a DVD writer that can burn double > layer DVDs and purchase double layer media to burn it with. Most > DVD drives will read double layer media but not many burners will > write it. The media also costs a fortune. > > You must reauthor your DVD. > OR you must reauthor. Sorry about that! Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 2:51 PM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 10:56:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E895116A468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from n1.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com (n1.bullet.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.56.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B2BF113C465 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:56:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.88] by n1.bullet.re4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 10:43:10 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.216] by t4.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 10:43:10 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.152] by t1.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 10:43:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp400.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 10:43:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 318337.97875.bm@omp400.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 87956 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2007 10:43:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=mf1LHGi01jlk3KJIB37DehWr6cx3iuSaSqGtsx1VD/kfaRqWgOw0aLnHmOyCn6fcN3M2wZm7M5xcH4p7oBvOb1li0T26uuHkAm/fBE6kGroGGgF5rPUV9t4IoyztgfhdeyveuGQqwpyP3HeJZvaPob3Gf1woqBTAsIfw+Yxa6EI=; X-YMail-OSG: .NVbur4VM1lMcFFqVyAShiSzI2.dLcG7tUD6ZjPx Received: from [41.205.191.10] by web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:43:09 PST Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:43:09 -0800 (PST) From: shinny knight To: "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" , Erik Norgaard In-Reply-To: <17838240D9A5544AAA5FF95F8D52031603067F88@ad-exh01.adhost.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <130709.85512.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problem with NAT/RDR in PF X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:56:03 -0000 "Michael K. Smith - Adhost" wrote: Hello Catalin: > > Michael Smith wrote: > > > On Dec 9, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > > > Michael Smith wrote: > >> Hello All: > >> I am trying to configure a round-robin group of Name Servers > that > >> respond on to and from a single address. > >> I want the following to occur: > >> 1) DNS query from 10.211.128.1 to 10.212.1.1 is redirected to > a > >> pool of name servers > >> 2) One of the name servers responds to the query > >> 3) The response shows a source address of 10.212.1.1, not the > >> actual name server > > > > > Hello Mike, > > > If I understand correctly your environment I think you should change > the NAT rule from: > > nat on $vlan821_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 > > to: > > nat on $vlan6_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.212.1.1 > > Let us know if this is solving the issue. > I'm still seeing the same issue. Here's the output from pfctl -sa | grep 10.212.1.1 nat on vlan6 inet from 10.212.1.0/24 to 10.211.0.0/16 -> 10.212.1.1 rdr on vlan6 inet proto udp from any to 10.212.1.1 port = domain -> round-robin rdr on vlan6 inet proto tcp from any to 10.212.1.1 port = domain -> round-robin vlan6 udp 10.212.1.11:53 <- 10.212.1.1:53 <- 10.211.128.146:54108 NO_TRAFFIC:SINGLE It looks like the redirect is happening correctly, but the NAT isn't working in reverse. The 10.212.1.1 address is in the subnet on $vlan821. Will this break NAT? That is, does NAT have to have an address on $vlan6? Regards, Mike Hello Mike, Ok, I understand better now. I saw that DNS queries are going to an IP address located in $vlan821 range. Is it possible to make queries to an IP within $vlan6 range? May I suggest adding another IP from 12.211.1.x on $vlan6 interface or use the interface IP and send queries to it? If it is possible then your rules should look like this: nat on $vlan6_if from $nr_net to $mail_net -> 10.211.1.x rdr on $vlan6_if proto { udp tcp } from any to 10.211.1.x port 53 -> round-robin I'm also using PF load-balancing rules and were working fine for me for more than 1 year. However, the drawback is that PF is not polling your remote systems to check if the service is available. It will keep sending packets to that one untill you will manually remove the IP from round-robin table. One workaround is to create a script and run it from cron that it will check for service availability and remove/add IP to round-robin table as required. Let me know if above solution is solving your issue. BR, Catalin --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 11:05:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595A716A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DC613C45A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBB27d7001546 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:02:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lBBB276n001543 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:02:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:02:07 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211120127.F1536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: why nfs is so slow? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:05:21 -0000 i'm getting about 6MB/s with NFS (100Mbit cross-connect ethernet), while over 9.5 by FTP. nfs is set to work over TCP. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 12:07:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD1016A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:07:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3927113C448 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:07:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBC7cud053905; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:07:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071211055812.024efda0@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:09:11 -0600 To: jekillen , User Questions From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <1049f53fe18e8533721516ed7dc217ed@prodigy.net> References: <1049f53fe18e8533721516ed7dc217ed@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:07:47 -0000 At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote: >Hello: >I have two name servers for four domains. >The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 >and the secondary is running v 6.2. >I have an MX record for each of the four registered >domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host >mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record >database is for one of the sites. When I try to send >an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages >bounce for dns lookup failure. >The name that is being looked up is > .... > >Some how the two names are being mashed together and then >looked up, causing the resolution failure. > >dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to >my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they >have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this. > >There was a period missing after the MX host name record. >I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name >server just to insure that named got the change and checked the >secondary record and it has the change > >I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary >name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that >it is actually running at the time, it was and is. >but the bak file on the secondary server has > > IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. >$ORIGIN targetDomain.tld. > > >when the record on primary server is > >@ IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. > >@ in this context should reference the domain this >file is for. >If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you >make any suggestions or recommendations? >thank you in advance >Jeff K Jeff, I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers. The primary zone files will have the: @ while the secondary zone files will not have these. In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: ; MX Record @ IN MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show it is a fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in this zone file. On the secondary server the zone files has: MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record. If you have multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use this number to designate the order they should get mail, smaller numbers are primary to get email. When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be sure to change the serial number in that zone file. Also I usually stop and start named on the primary. I also remove the backup files on the secondary servers and stop and start named on those too to see that the new files are transferred and thus being used. Hope this helps. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. 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( [217.206.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm1765199gvb.2007.12.11.01.46.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Evans To: Tom Wickline In-Reply-To: <53e3a9930712102044v768e794fq118e2fe3d6d2fa0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> <53e3a9930712102044v768e794fq118e2fe3d6d2fa0d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-elrZs9YLg0WhjE4onyxl" Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:46:13 +0000 Message-Id: <1197366373.1472.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:26:11 +0000 Cc: freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, Brett Glass , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:46:18 -0000 --=-elrZs9YLg0WhjE4onyxl Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 23:44 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007 11:41 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > > It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned > > the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep > > the code open and free for use by developers. We've stopped using it > > as a result. > > > > --Brett Glass > > >=20 > Wins is under a free licence, its LGPL and I'm almost 100% sure you > have no idea why > the licence was changed! >=20 > Tom Depends upon your definition of free. --=-elrZs9YLg0WhjE4onyxl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHXlxglcRvFfyds/cRAkIuAKCu/1U/DxsXZ2exMsE03AFrotC1NgCgppLk MgVuBun6geoGUs6VA520tLQ= =oIo8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-elrZs9YLg0WhjE4onyxl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 12:29:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5898716A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CE513C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=heUoNWGWnoEA:10 a=VSKGXltQp0uiYzSkBnMA:9 a=N921yk71L1qK66x1gzwA:7 a=49TMSrG61sWsH1arnkkWIa64Dm0A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=bsd-unix@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=rpratt1950@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 76.6.194.183 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [76.6.194.183] ([76.6.194.183:59153] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.1.21 r(19176)) with ESMTPA id E0/7C-20897-CB28E574; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:29:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:29:47 -0500 From: Randy Pratt To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20071211072947.2949077f.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20071211082149.GA23613@thought.org> References: <20071211082149.GA23613@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:50 -0000 On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:21:49 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, > using both my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning > a DVD that is larger than thee default. This time I'm using a > documentary that I own, so there is nothing wrong in making a > backup. Results: Same thing as happened with the other > commercially created DVD. > > K3B reads the disk flawlessly, but growisofs fails (perhaps) to do > its thing. In any case, the program complains that there is not > enough space on the blank and spits out the disk. > > I've tried replacing "auto" with "generic-mmc-raw" on the Lit-On > burner. Nope. Anybody other suggestions? It may be that the source DVD is using some compression method to fit the content on a 4.7G DVD. The size of the original DVD can be checked with "dvd+rw-mediainfo" (sysutils/dvd+rw-tools), ex: # dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/cd0 If the source DVD is a 4.7G DVD then the simplest way might be to first make a duplicate image with "dd", for example: # dd bs=2048 if=/dev/cd0 of=duplicate.iso This should produce an image of suitable size in the current directory to fit on another DVD which can be burned with "growisofs" (sysutils/dvd +rw-tools): # growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=duplicate.iso The preceeding commands are only examples and may need to be adjusted for your hardware/situation. HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 12:29:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40EF516A47A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (gwdu60.gwdg.de [134.76.8.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD6E13C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from gwdu60.gwdg.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBBBwtxP084740; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:58:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) Received: from localhost (kheuer2@localhost) by gwdu60.gwdg.de (8.13.8/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id lBBBwjnS084736; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:58:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from kheuer2@gwdg.de) X-Authentication-Warning: gwdu60.gwdg.de: kheuer2 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:58:45 +0100 (CET) From: Konrad Heuer To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20071211120127.F1536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: <20071211125137.T46172@gwdu60.gwdg.de> References: <20071211120127.F1536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why nfs is so slow? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:57 -0000 On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > i'm getting about 6MB/s with NFS (100Mbit cross-connect ethernet), while over > 9.5 by FTP. > > nfs is set to work over TCP. To my mind, this is because NFS is stateless because of being designed to share filesystem on a whole local network. Thus, every remote procedure call (the basic NFS operation) is self contained. Thus, every single read request causes the server to open the file, to read the number of bytes requested, and to close the file. If you compare this to a typical peer-to-peer ftp session, the overhead is obvious. On the other hand, ftp is a very special application. Best regards Konrad Heuer GWDG, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany, kheuer2@gwdg.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 13:29:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9FE16A46C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5686713C527 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so4226120waf for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:29:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=F6vxhllxO5T8pmh3R1gXCBvJtXibg2ebuEt4EYJc36k=; b=miHIy+BsHhIH0zKW7JxTm13IOBMLsENO5V429EKeew8xzZvm3hovT4rtrs0WvZoUmzhmhv36Y6NOBYp65QDjky+sIzuf90PGrzsPnpn73zaUDfr9BLiDXBU/9HKKtyHr9eci0DgchEkcPh5IRaGq6ginNehOLn3qo8RAnmUfNHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=N1cowiPxzVKJL6l/5OngDNBIIdj7+HSn8voGEIgf10KYUzPV8g4nrqdraDHkBGL1hIVPN/9JLeZGH6YsFhdFVJWiQ1CSvN8Jj1XcwqbbnrCcJ1Y8IepAwe1STqRa590hZZk/p/po6SXkxJrknscZFQo8IoNpeAByeeAwb10d+lk= Received: by 10.114.134.1 with SMTP id h1mr8124379wad.1197379769815; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.73.10 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 05:29:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712110529t102170c2u833fef022d4d37ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:29:29 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:29:30 -0000 Hi guyz, it's me again. I think I don't know what I'm doing, so I ask for help. I have three private networks(192.168.1, 10.10.0, 192.168.2) and a link to the external world 200.212.X, what I want to do is that my FreeBSD connect all the networks to the external world and the 192.168.1 to the 10.10.0, so a machine in 192.168.1 would ping to a machine in 10.10.0. I have a brand new copy of freebsd in my machine, I just configured the four interfaces in rc.conf, that's all I did. gateway_enable is set to true. The interfaces are connected to each network. What's the next step? Atenciosamente, Alaor Neto CEFET Campos/UNED Maca=E9 Coordena=E7=E3o de Tecnologia da Informa=E7=E3o (22) 9217-3198 / (22) 2773-6530 ramal 2035 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 13:33:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A53F16A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B76E13C467 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from royal64.emp.zapto.org (195.198.193.104) by pne-smtpout2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.3.129) id 475543E4002400F3; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:24:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:23:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A1865@royal64.emp.zapto.org> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: smart_host on sendmail min config Thread-Index: Acg7ZOQU4dUCcg7DQQ2L5uTMVxsifAAismkg References: From: "Daniel Eriksson" To: Cc: Aryeh Friedman Subject: RE: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:33:25 -0000 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > What else do I need to add to this to make it work (i.e. send all mail > via mx1.optonline.net): If your hostname is myhostname.mydomain.tld, then do the following: * cd /etc/mail * make all * edit myhostname.mydomain.tld.mc (it was created by the previous step) and change the smart host line like you already have done: define(`SMART_HOST', `mx2.optonline.net')dnl * make all install restart * try to send mail again /Daniel Eriksson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 14:01:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3359B16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:01:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmrueda@diatel.upm.es) Received: from smtp.upm.es (euler.ccupm.upm.es [138.100.4.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B171A13C4D1 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:01:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmrueda@diatel.upm.es) Received: from smtp.euitt.upm.es (mail.euitt.upm.es [138.100.52.110]) by smtp.upm.es (8.13.8/8.13.8/euler-005) with ESMTP id lBBE1Mwc016050 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:01:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: postfix) by smtp.euitt.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D908564EC for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:01:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.euitt.upm.es ([138.100.52.110]) by localhost (smtp.euitt.upm.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTPA id rCB6jC+WF+Zb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:01:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [138.100.49.70] (unknown [138.100.49.70]) (Authenticated sender: jmrueda) by smtp.euitt.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD44564F5 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:01:19 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475E97E9.5060504@diatel.upm.es> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:00:09 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_Mart=EDn_Rueda?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070129) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions References: <27dbfc8c0712060134u3580b5b0v24a7bc3301c05692@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27dbfc8c0712060134u3580b5b0v24a7bc3301c05692@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: fsck of big disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:01:25 -0000 Valerio Daelli wrote: > Hi list > > we have a freshly installed FreeBSD 6.2 machine with a gstriped external disk, > of 5.3Tb. The disk is composed of two slices of 2.6 Tb. > We are trying to have a (background) fsck of it but few hours later > since the start of the check > the host get unresponsive: it responds to ping but it doesn't let > login anyone, nor by ssh > nor by console. > What do you get if you press Control-T on the console when it is unresponsive? When you do a background fsck there is a point at which a snapshot of the filesystem is taken, although I'd say that happens at the beginning of the check. The problem is that with 5.3 Tb, it may take quite a while to take the snapshot, and during that time the system blocks any process that tries to write to the filesystem. Maybe that's what you are experiencing. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 14:46:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A0D16A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from n9a.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com (n9a.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.236.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9287313C43E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:46:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sh1nny_kn1ght@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.237.90] by n9.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 14:33:40 -0000 Received: from [216.252.122.218] by t6.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 14:33:40 -0000 Received: from [69.147.84.107] by t3.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 14:33:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp202.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Dec 2007 14:33:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 463203.2485.bm@omp202.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 72935 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Dec 2007 14:33:40 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=QuiTrx5+1lghqzlApFxcWi0DaxW1LxDV5gdZWvsYxlsJd1ORHCVy+4PqL9V/Zdzl/blEe1OO0uUr4zAubP5AqMa5bi8eyPOhXUSqYxP15kRTDL8KpbG9L8lTVjDWfr/eAeupRHs1n049SV49U4FkuFn9xlNrKGxhBTLe0GXa2gU=; X-YMail-OSG: SJ0QtrcVM1ku_XtKpbLbDn6qKfwfGJ_Lh0hi6dCI Received: from [41.205.191.10] by web44813.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:33:40 PST Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: shinny knight To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712110529t102170c2u833fef022d4d37ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <368893.72791.qm@web44813.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:46:01 -0000 Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: Hi guyz, it's me again. I think I don't know what I'm doing, so I ask for help. I have three private networks(192.168.1, 10.10.0, 192.168.2) and a link to the external world 200.212.X, what I want to do is that my FreeBSD connect all the networks to the external world and the 192.168.1 to the 10.10.0, so a machine in 192.168.1 would ping to a machine in 10.10.0. I have a brand new copy of freebsd in my machine, I just configured the four interfaces in rc.conf, that's all I did. gateway_enable is set to true. The interfaces are connected to each network. What's the next step? Atenciosamente, Alaor Neto CEFET Campos/UNED Macaé Coordenação de Tecnologia da Informação (22) 9217-3198 / (22) 2773-6530 ramal 2035 _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Hello Barroso, If you dont know what you are doing perhaps you should read documentation for ipf, ipfw and pf firewalls to understand which is best suited in your environment: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/firewalls.html After that you should try to configure your own rules like in configuration examples. If still not working then let us know. BR, Catalin --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 14:52:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6179916A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859B13C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id D8175142155; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:52:46 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69257142277; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:52:43 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:55:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <2949641c0712110529t102170c2u833fef022d4d37ae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712110529t102170c2u833fef022d4d37ae@mail.gmail.com> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712111655.24339.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:52:48 -0000 On Tuesday 11 December 2007 15:29:29 Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > Hi guyz, it's me again. I think I don't know what I'm doing, so I ask > for help. I have three private networks(192.168.1, 10.10.0, 192.168.2) > and a link to the external world 200.212.X, what I want to do is that my > FreeBSD connect all the networks to the external world and the 192.168.1 > to the 10.10.0, so a machine in 192.168.1 would ping to a machine in > 10.10.0. I have a brand new copy of freebsd in my machine, I just > configured the four interfaces in rc.conf, that's all I did. > gateway_enable is set to true. The interfaces are connected to each > network. What's the next step? It should be OK. Did you do "/etc/rc.d/netif restart" & "/etc/rc.d/routing restart"? Keep in mind that the private networks are for private use. And that the next hop router(the one thats connects to the internet) will probably drop the packets on the floor, if configured correctly? Your wording was not very clear on the private network subject, so I am clarifying a bit. You do not mention NAT or some other mechanism that will allow you IP communication with other hosts external to your network. Please post more info... Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:13:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF9916A46C for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345313C461 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:13:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBBFCsja004846; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:12:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBBFCsk9004845; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:12:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:12:54 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: lveax Message-ID: <20071211151254.GB4699@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <576dcbc20712101919v58784955ka3d98a7c1aa017a2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <576dcbc20712101919v58784955ka3d98a7c1aa017a2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: does freebsd support Vostro 1400 notebook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:13:20 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 03:19:56AM +0000, lveax wrote: > hey all, > > i want to buy a dell vostro 1400 > http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/vostronb_1400?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&~tab=bundlestab > > does freebsd support it? That is pretty new. I wonder if anyone has had a chance to get one and try it. You can get one and test it out. ////jerry > > which driver should i use? > > sound card/network card/etc > > i will update the > Video Cards > 128MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce? 8400M GS > > i found the nvidia-driver support it > http://us.download.nvidia.com/freebsd/100.14.19/README/appendix-e.html > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:15:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2DF16A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:15:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148E413C458 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id E62C1142329; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:15:29 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3ED142354; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:15:25 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:18:05 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:15:31 -0000 On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:18:40 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder what the performance impact of the entries in /etc/hosts really > is. > > What is your experience? > > Google tells me a lot of hosts running FreeBSD but I could not find > anything regarding the hosts file itself. > > I use hosts for filtering all unwanted content on my personal machine. That's not apparent. What are your filtering? and how do your filter using /etc/hosts? =46rom "man hosts": DESCRIPTION The hosts file contains information regarding the known hosts on the n= et- work. It can be used in conjunction with DNS, and the NIS maps `hosts.byaddr' and `hosts.byname', as controlled by nsswitch.conf(5). =46or example, my computer's name is iris.teledomenet.gr. This is not a fully qualified hostname. It's not in the Domain Name System. So, I have to enter this information manually to my /etc/hosts, so my OS will know that iris.teledomenet.gr is the local host. Example /etc/hosts: 192.168.1.71 iris iris.teledomenet.gr I recall that before DNS(that's a long time ago) the mapping between IP addresses and hostnames was achieved using /etc/hosts. And one could get a hosts file from a well known place(IANA?) The only "filtering" I can imagine of, is using something like 127.0.0.1 badhosts.com But all you get is misinforming *your* resolver that badhosts.com is on 127.0.0.1, that is, *you* cannot connect to badhosts.com. badhosts.com can connect to your machine just fine. And I doubt that's what you want. Please, clarify a bit. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:19:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E7D16A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C6913C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so810701nzf for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:19:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qs/PFCExELCLP/vgJVRaimkZFOYls6w+pXiJr0SozfI=; b=PBjC4DaleuR2BlkMoupE9g5E5WyQbvV/EftS7Be4izJNzaloLeb9RlndkUJwu61Kr7jMi2FxTFFk3pXsrVly11eCuM4NVAWOUeXPg9DjZw22cqp8L0RHAzgWLnAZDswGMZGkyj3vvMdCK3yvKv136MkOD6SvRvf8tUCdh6Zx9y4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GXO8oUiUu4eaUKTe02EcxVJLuJwn6ZdU1rgJUd1AEhtQEl8lJ6okBVlQpYZRBAxU00KcZ76Jmyqr3C1q69P9ATyjvbAI6iIfPJJEveFiwQ9D0XSHyKJUKv73ftGmERssnbeW2SFqVChebUbLA14td8bZ3eNev4pE2neWLdC2eLg= Received: by 10.142.242.8 with SMTP id p8mr3633255wfh.1197386386309; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.158.2 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:19:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <27dbfc8c0712110719u74e783a1t9156145badb739c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:19:46 +0100 From: "Valerio Daelli" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_Mart=EDn_Rueda?=" In-Reply-To: <475E97E9.5060504@diatel.upm.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <27dbfc8c0712060134u3580b5b0v24a7bc3301c05692@mail.gmail.com> <475E97E9.5060504@diatel.upm.es> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: fsck of big disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:19:49 -0000 Hi, thanks a lot for your answer. > > we have a freshly installed FreeBSD 6.2 machine with a gstriped external disk, > > of 5.3Tb. The disk is composed of two slices of 2.6 Tb. > > We are trying to have a (background) fsck of it but few hours later > > since the start of the check > > the host get unresponsive: it responds to ping but it doesn't let > > login anyone, nor by ssh > > nor by console. > > > What do you get if you press Control-T on the console when it is > unresponsive? We are not able to login via console nor via ssh. Pheraps you suggest me to press Control-T on the console even if I am not logged on. I did not try, sorry. > > When you do a background fsck there is a point at which a snapshot of > the filesystem is taken, although I'd say that happens at the beginning > of the check. The problem is that with 5.3 Tb, it may take quite a while > to take the snapshot, and during that time the system blocks any process > that tries to write to the filesystem. Maybe that's what you are > experiencing. > What you explained us sounds very interesting. But anyway we simply solved by disabling background fsck on such a big partition. We had panics and reboot and we did not want to risk on a production host. Bye Valerio Daelli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:28:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D8C16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C1613C458 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so113915pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:28:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=NVd4KaJADx0OhprKYUFotpBCJkqafGxu80I3X6IFzwY=; b=dGsI9MnhIn4KcZon6BTTZYhzTyfst6IWkDIsvbN0YcnAHjj2LSApQsZeVqz+d7TUDbxoDG8tBtAGV+ynRL5BvxmNh4s2ZaGUWGpqwK//DbzNRiytYYaq3+ExkuVIQNBzcr3UOGqU4sIWM/V4VwQYn9T5OupWHOdGFB/KewJs+aQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Sx4i0/f6ZJ2lgNvoO/DT/OVcw8u6ILl9B87x4YtJNbWUoK3Hq5sVlz6lhikAzpoObfRBTQnWqrLaVH1gXDkn+oFD1fzilmd1M/o5DDsu2xmRFVO4OlXrisS671Y3VYxCSPQtvP470Ya3pE6Rs/+FxfBgZqBqgMsdYBWNyo9poV0= Received: by 10.35.111.14 with SMTP id o14mr9087837pym.1197386897727; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.106.19 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:28:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:28:17 -0300 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Sd=C3=A4vtaker?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: VMware with Graphic hardware support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:24 -0000 Hello, I had seen that VMwares latest version uses hardware acceleration for graphics, and it is a pretty nice way to avoid reboot pc just to use some win32/linux software for a couple of minutes/hours... I got a Nvidia card, do u think the port of VMware will be able to use these feature and run some graphical applications with 3d acceleration? Thanks for any info. PS: just in case u didnt noticed it... English is not my language :-( From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:28:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94F916A469 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 386B613C448 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 10645 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2007 15:28:37 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate2.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2007 15:28:36 -0000 Message-ID: <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:28:29 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:28:40 -0000 Hi, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > On Tuesday 11 December 2007 05:18:40 Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >> I use hosts for filtering all unwanted content on my personal machine. > > That's not apparent. What are your filtering? all the sites I personally do not want to see. > and how do your filter using /etc/hosts? 127.0.0.1 BadHost.com > > I recall that before DNS(that's a long time ago) the mapping Yes, this was normal, a long time ago. > The only "filtering" I can imagine of, is using something like > 127.0.0.1 badhosts.com Yes. > But all you get is misinforming *your* resolver that Yes, this is what I want. Just the machine I am working on. No other machine should get any impact from this. > badhosts.com is on 127.0.0.1, that is, *you* cannot > connect to badhosts.com. Yes, this is what I want. > badhosts.com can connect to your machine just fine. Yes, if they would come through to it. > And I doubt that's what you want. This is really what I want. Just avoiding the traffic, the time and the optical disturbance caused by all those sites. I would even prefer a method as simple as hosts but linked even to my user account. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:29:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CD416A421 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCAD913C45D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 9887F142374; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:29:20 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D8E142368; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:29:14 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:31:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712111731.54852.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Erich Dollansky Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:29:22 -0000 And it just occured to me that you really mean /etc/hosts.allow and not /etc/hosts... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:32:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6397416A46B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E3B13C474 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBBFWJv6004945; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:32:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBBFWIYP004944; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:32:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:32:18 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20071211153218.GC4699@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20071209101050.GD4442@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:44 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:41:08AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ... > > > > But how are you getting your source? What definition is it in? > > > > The back of the disc says: "Aprox 117 minutes"; so evidently it was > > mastered in SP. If there are *32* defs, man, I miht as well throw in > > the towel and go back to my Shostakovich. (Unless these definitions are > > largely air (== "PR stuff, aka hype). > > > > Hi Gary, > > You mentioned you wanted to record a 117 minute COMMERCIAL dvd. Now, > before I continue let me explain that doing so is illegal in the US. > All commercial DVD's are encrypted and the DMCA makes decrypting of > them illegal, it even makes it illegal to give someone a copy of > a program that will decrypt them, it makes it illegal to even write > and post online the source code to such a program. It is NOT illegal > to print up such source code in a paper book and sell it - the authors > of DMCA wanted to duck the 1st amendment - Google DeCSS for > an understanding of the controversy. > > With this in mind understand that CSS was broken years ago. Because > of this, the DVD producers figured out that copying wasn't much of > an obstacle to the unwashed masses, particulary when free programs > for Windows began to show up. > > Many people with children have found that they accumulate a large > number of Disney videos. They have also found the kids tend to scratch > the shit out of them. So there is a large interest in being able to > copy these things and store the masters safely away, then give the > kids the copy to destroy. So all copying of commercial DVD's is not > for piracy and I think people who assert this are moronic idiots. You are so right. Any backyard/foreign, etc software pirates have no problem defeating the copy protections and merrily go their way making thousands of pirate copies while ordinary folk out there who are copying for personal, home use, such as backup (legal by the way) are the only ones hampered by these junky, anti consumer, schemes. ////jerry > Further, with Disney DVD's, Disney lately has taken to inserting > commercials for Disney cruise lines and other garbage into the DVD's > that are NOT skippable with a normal DVD player. Responsible parents > do not wish their kids to view this crap and so naturally there is > another reason to copy these - to remaster them to prune out these > commercials so the kids don't view them. Also illegal under the > law as the copyright holder hasn't given you permission to do this. > > ... > > Anyway, the fact is that none of the open source DVD copying > programs can really deal with these advanced systems. They can > deal with CSS but that's it. If your plan is to copy commercial > DVD's for your own use, you should be aware of all this. Right > now, the most advanced DVD cracking programs that will deal with > ALL of the perverted copy protection schemes in use are only available > as commercial programs for Windows. (Some trialware, some not) > And none are available over-the-counter in the US, you have to > download them from foreign websites. > > Ted > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 > 2:51 PM > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:45:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3316A468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5378B13C455 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:45:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBBFj6kx016273; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:45:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBBFj5Zf016270; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:45:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:45:05 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: <20071211084309.A16234@wonkity.com> References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:45:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:45:07 -0000 On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote: > This is really what I want. Just avoiding the traffic, the time and the > optical disturbance caused by all those sites. > > I would even prefer a method as simple as hosts but linked even to my user > account. http://adblockplus.org/en/ works fine on Firefox. Easier to use and more effective than 127.0.0.1 entries in /etc/hosts. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 15:54:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B3D16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (conn.mc.mpls.visi.com [208.42.156.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CC513C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from josh@tcbug.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [208.42.70.163]) by conn-smtp.mc.mpls.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A9807E1D; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:54:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from build64.tcbug.org (unknown [208.42.70.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9011210AA88D; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:54:41 -0600 (CST) From: Josh Paetzel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:54:37 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <27dbfc8c0712060134u3580b5b0v24a7bc3301c05692@mail.gmail.com> <475E97E9.5060504@diatel.upm.es> <27dbfc8c0712110719u74e783a1t9156145badb739c6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27dbfc8c0712110719u74e783a1t9156145badb739c6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2415618.IUyeoQ24c3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200712110954.40662.josh@tcbug.org> Cc: Javier =?iso-8859-1?q?Mart=EDn?= Rueda , Valerio Daelli Subject: Re: fsck of big disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:54:43 -0000 --nextPart2415618.IUyeoQ24c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 11 December 2007 09:19:46 am Valerio Daelli wrote: > Hi, > thanks a lot for your answer. > > > > we have a freshly installed FreeBSD 6.2 machine with a gstriped > > > external disk, of 5.3Tb. The disk is composed of two slices of 2.6 Tb. > > > We are trying to have a (background) fsck of it but few hours later > > > since the start of the check > > > the host get unresponsive: it responds to ping but it doesn't let > > > login anyone, nor by ssh > > > nor by console. > > > > What do you get if you press Control-T on the console when it is > > unresponsive? > > We are not able to login via console nor via ssh. > Pheraps you suggest me to press Control-T on the console even if I am not > logged on. I did not try, sorry. > > > When you do a background fsck there is a point at which a snapshot of > > the filesystem is taken, although I'd say that happens at the beginning > > of the check. The problem is that with 5.3 Tb, it may take quite a while > > to take the snapshot, and during that time the system blocks any process > > that tries to write to the filesystem. Maybe that's what you are > > experiencing. > > What you explained us sounds very interesting. But anyway we simply > solved by disabling background fsck on such a big partition. We had > panics and reboot > and we did not want to risk on a production host. > Bye > > Valerio Daelli What you are probably running in to is memory starvation. In my experience= =20 fsck on a moderately filled disk uses something on the order of 1 gig of RA= M=20 per TB of filesystem. If you have this in an array with less than 4 gigs o= f=20 RAM it's possible that it was just buried in swap and spending all it's tim= e=20 moving pages in and out as opposed to doing anything useful. =2D-=20 Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB --nextPart2415618.IUyeoQ24c3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBHXrLAJvkB8SevrssRAlhKAJsFjihnF1T1WWqS21WC9t8Qfb1v4gCfQ9G4 ct+izY7Etwzmhuva717LEPg= =CiZX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2415618.IUyeoQ24c3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:19:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C76316A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:19:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D05BA13C465 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 23291 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2007 16:19:30 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 11 Dec 2007 16:19:27 -0000 Message-ID: <475EB887.6070902@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:19:19 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> <20071211084309.A16234@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20071211084309.A16234@wonkity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:19:33 -0000 Hi, Warren Block wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> This is really what I want. Just avoiding the traffic, the time and >> the optical disturbance caused by all those sites. >> >> I would even prefer a method as simple as hosts but linked even to my >> user account. > > http://adblockplus.org/en/ works fine on Firefox. Easier to use and > more effective than 127.0.0.1 entries in /etc/hosts. > I do not even use Firefox. hosts has the clear limit that stuff coming from the same site as the text I want to read is still shown. In general, it works fine. But new sites have new stuff I would like to be filtered out. To make these experiences as rare as possible, I collect from friends and the Internet hosts files to filter as much as possible. This resulted in a pretty large file meanwhile. But the Internet looks much more usable for me now. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:27:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9B016A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE9413C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBBGQhCK001097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:27:00 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBBGQcjX018906; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBBGQcFn018902; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:38 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.001, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:27:37 -0000 On 2007-12-10 22:00, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: > Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created > Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 > Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 > Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 > Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 > > completely unchanged before and after I attempted to sendmail to my > self (after a reboot but not a restart of sendmail [I have a > handcrafted /etc/rc so I know it doesn't run sendmail on boot]) I don't see message sending attempts above. Since you have modified `/etc/rc' can you show me the processes launched for Sendmail, the way they started, and then how you are trying to send an email message? Ideally, something like `mail -v' should show at least an attempt to post the message to the local queue: % $ mail -v keramida % Subject: foo % testing % . % EOT % keramida... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... % 220 kobe.laptop ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:12 +0200 (EET) % >>> EHLO kobe.laptop % 250-kobe.laptop Hello kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you % 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES % 250-PIPELINING % 250-8BITMIME % 250-SIZE % 250-DSN % 250-ETRN % 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 % 250-DELIVERBY % 250 HELP % >>> MAIL From: SIZE=35 AUTH=keramida@kobe.laptop % 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok % >>> RCPT To: % >>> DATA % 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok % 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself % >>> . % 250 2.0.0 lBBGQCj8018567 Message accepted for delivery % keramida... Sent (lBBGQCj8018567 Message accepted for delivery) % Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] % >>> QUIT % 221 2.0.0 kobe.laptop closing connection % $ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:40:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E0B16A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:40:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B128613C4D3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:40:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so181945pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:40:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=L2MF/NgIuuin39jf5d93JXxAgzrrwA8iYC+pfBYCLcM=; b=KPlnA3wWV+e6nmkcvXWdQ3xbE803S5aaNIF96e9HwVVtB8SurZHH4dIauqfT6vJzZ8BXw2h+vDDqyXaLMyz8FJtfTui7by28xuBEty1wj/Lvx3mfQUIQEq+qgeTjhh20PST2TwSSOcJFm8jBARVEMo9chFxlS90b/iBzJFc7rDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CctEUSJhguKb8GqEJzZQqeaLxrqnWpqJuqmrSBBx25cdf58028LJ8TV1MutKqA3yY6clYzRUsj7D492ExyJO9atiNjjfnlQRWu5Nq6G72rO6NVeqHI+Ba5Z5mb6eFT7ShO0IDwTwDNy2PmgkEq/MoPeZAJiYHLShSjlYsWmxKi4= Received: by 10.140.148.3 with SMTP id v3mr104674rvd.1197391236721; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.37.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:40:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:40:36 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2949641c0712110644m2e2965f3p40778d928283ab50@mail.gmail.com> <837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:40:49 -0000 Guyz, that's my doubt, if I have two separated networks, and a freebsd connected in the two of them, I'm supposed to be able to ping to a machine in 10.10.0 network from a machine in 192.168.1 network, for example, byonly setting gateway_enable="YES"? I know private networks are for private use, but I have to connect one of my private networks to the private network of other school because they share their database with us. (they are 10.10.0, we're 192.168.1). All I want is that when I ping from a machine in 192.168.1 to a machine in 10.10.0 it work. That's all I need. Sorry my bad english. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:44:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5B16A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B1813C448 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.3.2 anthesphoria.net lBBGiULa037995 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=anthesphoria.net; s=phero; t=1197391477; bh=BCqSbu7K+DLeFU7Wnfs7HfombKNGJPNXXl3ktItiM 24=; l=937; h=X-Bogosity:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:X-Face:X-Operating-System: Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=H6ReJtj+5AZ vqk9IRiojX4diY54DpH0pQo0T4Qqyt9+OMXz+hcepRkCJWl3RT18mPssfu5Vo5dynkP 4HEKBlOgMZZt7+mwZAzUNbLCUQ7nXM7wximM1KeW9u5x6KzKlgh78SUEtXIQw9gF8Y7 4UbFxbEDT8uSy+7N0c6ubV1zd8= Received: from anthesphoria.net (adsl-202-214.eunet.yu [213.198.202.214]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBBGiULa037995 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:44:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:45:09 +0100 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Yuri Message-ID: <20071211174509.790075ae@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <1197158897.475b31f15e30d@webmail.rawbw.com> References: <1197158897.475b31f15e30d@webmail.rawbw.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: setxkbmap dosn't work (with KDE) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:44:39 -0000 =D0=A3 =D1=81=D1=83=D0=B1=D0=BE=D1=82=D1=83, 8. =D0=B4=D0=B5=D1=86=D0=B5=D0= =BC=D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0 2007. =D1=83 16:08:17 -0800 Yuri =D1=98=D0=B5 =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0= =BE(=D0=BB=D0=B0): =20 > I am trying to enable some key combination to switch > between keyboard layouts. >=20 > Command 'setxkbmap -option grp:alts_toggle' is supposed to > enable layout switching by both alts. But alts don't do > anything after it. Same with 'setxkbmap -option grp:caps_toggle'. >=20 > setxkbmap is from setxkbmap-1.0.4. >=20 > This must be a bug somewhere. > Anyone also experiences this problem? Hello Yuri, have you checked it without KDE? And what is the output of % setxkbmap -v 10 and then of % setxkbmap -option '' -v 10 % setxkbmap -option grp:alts_toggle -v 10 ? --=20 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 :: =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=9B=D0=B5= =D1=87=D0=B8=D1=9B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:47:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32C516A41B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 29CAF13C4D5 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:47:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 72684 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2007 16:21:03 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 16:21:02 -0000 Message-ID: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:20:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:47:46 -0000 I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same time with = sed command. How do I that ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:47:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E104816A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) Received: from ms05.mailstreet2003.net (ms05.mailstreet2003.net [69.25.50.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54A313C461 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@sigd.net) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:50:38 -0500 Message-ID: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220FA27C53@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Connecting networks Thread-Index: Acg8FKenSkujIA9sTbem3hZL39ROEgAAQ7tA References: <2949641c0712110644m2e2965f3p40778d928283ab50@mail.gmail.com><837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> From: "Chris Haulmark" To: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" , Cc: Subject: RE: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:47:59 -0000 Hello Alaor: >=20 > Guyz, that's my doubt, if I have two separated networks, and a freebsd > connected in the two of them, I'm supposed to be able to ping to a > machine > in 10.10.0 network from a machine in 192.168.1 network, for example, > byonly > setting gateway_enable=3D"YES"? > I know private networks are for private use, but I have to connect one > of my > private networks to the private network of other school because they > share > their database with us. (they are 10.10.0, we're 192.168.1). All I want > is > that when I ping from a machine in 192.168.1 to a machine in 10.10.0 it > work. That's all I need. Sorry my bad english. It sounds like you are wanting a router to function between two different subnets. Take a reading under 29.2.5 at this link: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routin g.html Chris > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:53:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6A216A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:53:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461013C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so194239pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:53:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OxVVKdssUcqwJOGG6kiZb3MMEgd8+F+TsINxejnoYno=; b=sqTe4S0ZRNXqhEbcN5mUN14D2TgKn7S5r6vB/1tbS4GFNR6KLjGur6/mrDgkrurpWWYMhziEizEmJxwr3rBSVkCQAH2QdyCZ2W93mB+mNGJ9zNp714n+LJBlgBB8e3juzMWx7KKuKkYq39Qy5nsI30PQRpv/Kwyo5RYUta8t71k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Dwse9PMEq4Av2vdhZxabxXwo7U2Y9Te0OEUQDTXeIEa2vbxo36df5cRlB1oVi8nNTN6dTWZSo2FcRIZUbAFbUXOea21YPSG7CDTZYNqmJIFg8CRP7YTKjrBOucdkYKN+ZG3Z3Dyh6/FNhzpuOJwTZ7beRH2H+jOMV1g6MwI9684= Received: by 10.141.50.17 with SMTP id c17mr825034rvk.1197392029695; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.37.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:53:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:53:49 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: "Chris Haulmark" In-Reply-To: <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220FA27C53@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2949641c0712110644m2e2965f3p40778d928283ab50@mail.gmail.com> <837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220FA27C53@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:53:57 -0000 2007/12/11, Chris Haulmark : > > It sounds like you are wanting a router to function between two > different > subnets. > > Take a reading under 29.2.5 at this link: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-routin > g.html > > Chris Yes Chris, but I already have the routes, when I do netstat -r they are there but I still unable to ping from one network to another. I did read this section in the handbook but it's not working. I'll paste my netstat -r output in a while. Alaor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 16:54:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE50816A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9DE813C4EB for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:54:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so849423nzf for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:54:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=/Q5JeHxl+36isT4X7JThG7+NnZ8d67i+NwO3hLQaMYU=; b=RC2d+uDa07vhmAS+npyouzsz01XxU6a8BCPe3cqmKSokgvwkO8tDYWEATgJ4+lPS3fanq9fZH8s2jPZizub58a1UpBPC4vlIpE1sJ0jmT9C+hK0gx8DGIi/mT2x5TMfBK4TcFOhvo3AS7w9Va4scjsj394mFuRwO8McogCekmy4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=Hfu4NvCZtkJqDsnGHm3QdEE1XxTQHGHPCOhbazf3kLRsDBoiZYzdGTvTvG/hp1XNPkB/qkcGQ4WnojjLMqLOZ75wpDwtXypvwj4VzySktLJC8WUt1pw9Qpt5X6IGjF+dS5pDxu33fl9ZCe+lH0zU36J/amHYImc2tX7O3EAxPJk= Received: by 10.142.80.7 with SMTP id d7mr1140997wfb.1197392084765; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.172.9 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <539c60b90712110854p332c3907x4498d65789d9b5c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:54:44 -0700 From: "Steve Franks" Sender: bahamasfranks@gmail.com To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 76fe9844bd0d17d7 Subject: is there a port to 'copy' audio from one soundcard to another in realtime? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: stevefranks@ieee.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:54:47 -0000 Say I have multiple usb audio devices, and I want to make a simple 'mixer' - anyone know how to do that? Thanks, Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 17:00:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D295E16A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B887513C447 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE908E0006A6; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:05 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> <20071211084309.A16234@wonkity.com> <475EB887.6070902@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <475EB887.6070902@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:11 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > But new sites have new stuff I would like to be filtered out. To make > these experiences as rare as possible, I collect from friends and the > Internet hosts files to filter as much as possible. > > This resulted in a pretty large file meanwhile. > > But the Internet looks much more usable for me now. Assuming I've understood your initial post correctly, then I do the same, redirecting some dozen ad sites to a local web server. With a dozen or so aliases I've never noticed any difference in performance, but I suspect you have rather more than that :-) I could never quite be bothered to maintain the list once I'd filtered ads from the sites I use most often. I think the answer to your original question is going to be "look at the source code". If your hosts file is really that large then I suspect it will be having a performance effect and only you can judge if it's significant or not. Large hosts files are not the future, so performance improvements in the future are unlikely, I would say. I'm pretty sure you could also do the same with a local DNS server, if you wanted to "abuse" it in this way, and that would *probably* be faster since the code would expect to deal with large lists of hosts. Been a while since I did anything like that, though, and never on the scale you seem to be describing. There's no clean solutions to getting different lookups per-user that I am aware of, but unless your host is also performing some service that involves a lot of name resolution then why care? (And if it is, you shouldn't be using it as a general web browser :-)) Unclean solutions might include something like making the hosts file point to some automounted directory which changed per user, but you'd have to be sure that you saw a valid hosts file at boot time. Fiddling with symlinks in rc scripts could do that, I'm sure. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 17:00:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD0A16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from hermes.wbtsystems.com (hermes.wbtsystems.com [193.120.231.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E1213C457 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barry.byrne@wbtsystems.com) Received: from SUNYA (sunya.wbt.wbtsystems.com [10.12.1.197]) by hermes.wbtsystems.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70318F740F; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "Barry Byrne" To: "'Halid Faith'" , References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:08 -0000 Message-ID: <01f401c83c17$48fffef0$c5010c0a@SUNYA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acg8Fa8dSHF7vSyRT5mLqRB4SZFs5gAAXksw Cc: Subject: RE: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sedcommand ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:00:13 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Halid Faith > Sent: 11 December 2007 16:21 > I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same > time with sed command. > How do I that ? Halid: You haven't said exactly what you want to do, but something like this should get you started. sed 's/oldstring1/newstring1/g; s/oldstring2/newstring2/g' < infile > outfile From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 17:01:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E8B16A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (mailgw2.fraunhofer.de [153.96.1.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4AA13C474 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (8.13.5+/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBBGJQd4025927; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:19:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) by mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (8.13.5+/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBBGJPOv025823 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:19:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id lBBGJLoW014258; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:19:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:19:21 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:19:21 +0100 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, pauls@utdallas.edu Message-ID: <475eb889.00ds7yuaS6xWPJll%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2007 16:19:21.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[963140E0:01C83C11] X-Fraunhofer-Email-Policy: accepted Cc: Subject: Re: CD/DVD writer no longer works X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:01:17 -0000 >Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i386-unknown-freebsd6.0) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling >TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM >scsidev: '1,1,0' >scsibus: 1 target: 1 lun: 0 >Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. >SCSI buffer size: 64512 >atapi: 0 >Device type : Removable CD-ROM >Version : 0 >Response Format: 2 >Capabilities : >Vendor_info : 'TSSTcorp' >Identifikation : 'CD-RW TS-H292B' >Revision : 'DE03' >Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. >Current: 0x0000 >Profile: 0x000A >Profile: 0x0009 >Profile: 0x0008 1) you are using an extremely outdated cdrecord version. A recent version is here: ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/ Use 2.01.01a36 2) your drive seems to have problems with the medium or is defective as it reports medium not present and no current profile is selected. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 17:02:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A856F16A476 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) Received: from itsuki.fkraiem.org (itsuki.fkraiem.org [213.251.134.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5762813C474 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (firas@ABordeaux-256-1-89-206.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.11.208.206]) (authenticated bits=0) by itsuki.fkraiem.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBH24Ci043073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:02:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org) From: Firas Kraiem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:01:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2230479.qtKPtAAyxA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200712111802.03702.firas@itsuki.fkraiem.org> Cc: Halid Faith Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:02:08 -0000 --nextPart2230479.qtKPtAAyxA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday 11 December 2007 17:20:50 Halid Faith wrote: > I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same time with > sed command. How do I that ? firas@itsuki ~ % echo "foobar" | sed 's/foo/goo/;s/bar/baz/' goobaz =2D-=20 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments GnuPG public key: http://itsuki.fkraiem.org/gpgkey --nextPart2230479.qtKPtAAyxA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHXsKL/+Gk845KJlARAt9lAJ4uUEi18uSR/VO8NQEEyqVCpXfJOgCffQzk u52filtQEftCfnKtfAxPN80= =F3Kp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2230479.qtKPtAAyxA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 17:10:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E091B16A41B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA12513C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A2FE00136E; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:04:24 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475EC318.90104@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:04:24 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Halid Faith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:10:32 -0000 Halid Faith wrote: >I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same time with sed command. >How do I that ? > > Do you mean something like: sed -e 's/string1/replacement1/g' -e 's/string2/replacement2/g' or sed -f instructions.sed instructions.sed: s/string1/replacement1/g s/string2/replacement2/g --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:02:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F9D716A498 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5383D13C514 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:02:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so2294069rvb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TJG6LoaBXAlUiBuwTZIR7zvqa1kDeQi/N2jRLE2SMew=; b=XxaFDG9hKWl5bhXPhOflvOD+oI++WSWBgaos524mjusMPyOfKSFquJD0QgGUluqdwhL0gDRXlzyBVWQWpDSD5peTDgjIS3savwtArsvQGDpNZc/Zyz2dLGvRTwOqs/t0fhpLk/5Vwg8OTkPOfIifZJTzg2PDNb7wmTd9/fskYJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UKQU6mQQyY8JmhcJFPDYe8aBzS4JDmeZVHeBo6Ljd3sQQp5aBq/KjxkVLoDH8EGZaqIBLEWzU9fRgE3J+IJ6b/YJQcDQ9zu5YqbxppmBpwmhruacpAGVhtVrKVe/PSR0m3kLGwczKlJ6VJo2/LRqVPnwam5BSVWdqkehdHNdg9Q= Received: by 10.140.207.3 with SMTP id e3mr349713rvg.1197396132427; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d2sm5119897qbc.2007.12.11.10.02.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:02:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:02:10 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:02:15 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-10 22:00, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: >> Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created >> Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 >> Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 >> Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 >> Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 >> >> completely unchanged before and after I attempted to sendmail to my >> self (after a reboot but not a restart of sendmail [I have a >> handcrafted /etc/rc so I know it doesn't run sendmail on boot]) > > I don't see message sending attempts above. Since you have modified > `/etc/rc' can you show me the processes launched for Sendmail, the way > they started, and then how you are trying to send an email message? > > Ideally, something like `mail -v' should show at least an attempt to > post the message to the local queue: > > % $ mail -v keramida > % Subject: foo > % testing > % . > % EOT > % keramida... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... > % 220 kobe.laptop ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:12 +0200 (EET) > % >>> EHLO kobe.laptop > % 250-kobe.laptop Hello kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you > % 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > % 250-PIPELINING > % 250-8BITMIME > % 250-SIZE > % 250-DSN > % 250-ETRN > % 250-AUTH GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > % 250-DELIVERBY > % 250 HELP > % >>> MAIL From: SIZE=35 AUTH=keramida@kobe.laptop > % 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok > % >>> RCPT To: > % >>> DATA > % 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok > % 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself > % >>> . > % 250 2.0.0 lBBGQCj8018567 Message accepted for delivery > % keramida... Sent (lBBGQCj8018567 Message accepted for delivery) > % Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] > % >>> QUIT > % 221 2.0.0 kobe.laptop closing connection > % $ > monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m -v 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? monster-freebsd# mail -v aryeh.friedman@gmail.com Subject: test fopo dsadad . EOT WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) >>> EHLO monster-freebsd 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP >>> MAIL From: SIZE=56 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: >>> DATA 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 2.0.0 lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Sent (lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >>> QUIT 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXtCizIOMjAek4JIRAoc6AKCpJfHrBjp6ggnJ8ofcHr8aeGHLWQCcDAIV HhNmOsaup3n4HTwDHsezl/Q= =RKbz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:12:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A988D16A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:12:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3748C13C455 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:12:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBBIAdPi008645 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:10:53 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBBIAXxk001757; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:10:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBBIAWQ1001756; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:10:32 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:10:32 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:12:11 -0000 On 2007-12-11 13:02, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: >> Ideally, something like `mail -v' should show at least an attempt to >> post the message to the local queue: [...] > > monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m -v > 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see > cf/README: WHO AM I? > monster-freebsd# mail -v aryeh.friedman@gmail.com > Subject: test fopo > dsadad > . > EOT > WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? > aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... > 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 > 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) > >>> EHLO monster-freebsd > 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you [...] > 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself > >>> . > 250 2.0.0 lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery > aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Sent (lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery) > Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] > >>> QUIT > 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: mailq -Ac Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, and the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be working fine, but only queueing messages in `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A queue runner should also be started to periodically scan and handle the clientmqueue messages. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:23:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3145716A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-33.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-33.bluehost.com [69.89.18.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11EAF13C465 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 6526 invoked by uid 0); 11 Dec 2007 18:23:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 18:23:50 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J29lm-0000EC-EA for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:23:50 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBBINn6O006485 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:23:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBBINmtm006484 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:23:48 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:23:48 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211182348.GB6417@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <53e3a9930712060959t6f446534xee6ba49d043dd70a@mail.gmail.com> <200712110441.VAA05322@lariat.net> <53e3a9930712102044v768e794fq118e2fe3d6d2fa0d@mail.gmail.com> <1197366373.1472.0.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1197366373.1472.0.camel@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:23:51 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 09:46:13AM +0000, Tom Evans wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 23:44 -0500, Tom Wickline wrote: > > On Dec 10, 2007 11:41 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > > > It's worth noting that the WINE project, not long ago, abandoned > > > the BSD license for the GPL despite urging from many sources to keep > > > the code open and free for use by developers. 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( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm4332560qbe.2007.12.11.10.25.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:25:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:25:50 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:25:55 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-11 13:02, "Aryeh M. Friedman" > wrote: >>> Ideally, something like `mail -v' should show at least an >>> attempt to post the message to the local queue: [...] >> monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m -v 050 WARNING: local host >> name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? >> monster-freebsd# mail -v aryeh.friedman@gmail.com Subject: test >> fopo dsadad . EOT WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is >> not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? >> aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via >> relay... 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, >> 11 Dec 2007 13:00:27 -0500 (EST) >>>>> EHLO monster-freebsd >> 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet >> you > [...] >> 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>>>> . >> 250 2.0.0 lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted for delivery >> aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Sent (lBBI0RgU000340 Message accepted >> for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >>>>> QUIT >> 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection > > Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You > should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: > > mailq -Ac > > Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, and > the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be working > fine, but only queueing messages in `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A > queue runner should also be started to periodically scan and handle > the clientmqueue messages. > > monster-freebsd# !sen sendmail -bd -q1m -v # very long pause 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac # very long pause /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- - ------------Sender/Recipient----------- lBAEQDUM077228 9 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh@gmail.com lBAEtoDS076148 0 Mon Dec 10 09:55 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBALxPJ3000280 9 Mon Dec 10 16:59 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAEZsSH058954 8 Mon Dec 10 09:35 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBBHuZ2I000325 7 Tue Dec 11 12:56 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAF5WYM090152 5 Mon Dec 10 10:05 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAEQhZL082703 10 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAF6r3W005781 9 Mon Dec 10 10:06 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com Total requests: 8 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXtYuzIOMjAek4JIRAhkkAJ9ww89bT/y8y6IdEids2VRBnKg6tQCgmuqe T65HD60dLsGjs1GxucciyUs= =/Th9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:26:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B1216A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A72613C46E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so2301986rvb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:26:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zyFOxLL0NdeNTSXpzERP2ax9SzL7jY0hZ9N60yoyH58=; b=we0D+/UtxZACKai11yDbAKInEB6RsxJTrO6bO44Hu/cAwUxIfHzmfbYtdFNyKpfPHSgn//yObPeLFEM8JQI3LpxwfQO3fN+quiHJO8F0IyWGVzi6N1eQGDyieBxtmn0Xn+l4t8H1yDhAoOdSwTV0b0OP+k34+fRwdkCcpFmzuJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EsTiyqy0CZ1XFIxlLAJtTFrtLkfIMPQTjc6OjXDck4OGaEXZKpWbF0VErmZuXP2qLqyPGuEMnohTOE8ttzDIGoWnbWyRm3We7l1UEOy2L4cWF7aXZ8RaDDK6VA4h+uWp35mA4aUxEaRbYa4eKZGSfjLSnYg8gqaeRFfv6z0wW3o= Received: by 10.140.180.42 with SMTP id c42mr195368rvf.1197397605221; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:26:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.37.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:26:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712111026t27844426wba78cf6991856d4a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:26:45 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2949641c0712110644m2e2965f3p40778d928283ab50@mail.gmail.com> <837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220FA27C53@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:26:57 -0000 Guyz, here's my netstat-r output: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 192.168.1.80 UGS 0 4 xl0 10.10/16 link#4 UC 0 0 xl2 localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.1 link#2 UC 0 0 xl0 zion.administrativ 00:00:54:19:e7:9a UHLW 1 16 xl0 1151 192.168.1.80 00:0e:a6:60:cb:24 UHLW 2 0 xl0 904 192.168.2 link#3 UC 0 0 xl1 192.168.2.2 00:e0:7d:07:8c:cd UHLW 1 6 xl1 1143 200.252.164 link#1 UC 0 0 em0 Internet6: ... I have 4 network cards, em0 is connected to the external world (not yet), the xl0 is connected to my private network 192.168.1 with the ip 192.168.1.244, the xl1 is connectedto another private network 192.168.2 with the ip 192.168.2.90 and the xl3 is connected to other school network 10.10.0with the ip 10.10.0.50, what I want know is that a machine A in network 192.168.2, with a ip, for example 192.168.2.2, could ping to a machine B in the network 192.168.1, with the ip, for example, 192.168.1.10. And it's not working. My pf firewall just pass all. In rc.conf I just set gateway_enable="YES" and configured the networks interfaces. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:27:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACED16A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (casselton.net [63.165.140.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B053C13C45A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) Received: from casselton.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by casselton.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBIRAxp009898; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:27:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely@casselton.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=casselton.net; s=ccnMail; t=1197397631; bh=sNyMmL8mxlu1aEVSVOzb0zVCs/hD/6r7U9cZE/C pgzM=; h=Date:From:Message-Id:To:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To; b=SkMd7SJw ElXV4vanMY+Zr91SBRRXurP79UZB6YG8FLCPczzwp/33/WFZRTzA05Ck/Wx9Vj1aZJG 6z9zAR78n/voUec0WgH0W3KV6Z2gmSReGM1qODQUg9uRvmTUD0RdWNj/X6mKf870/lH aGytJSlqsQa35FVN8q4RQvDCcXe44= Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by casselton.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBBIRArf009896; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:27:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tinguely) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:27:10 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <200712111827.lBBIRArf009896@casselton.net> To: aryeh.friedman@gmail.com, keramida@ceid.upatras.gr In-Reply-To: <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:27:16 -0000 It has been a long time since I tested rule sets, but try this: (system prompt)$ sendmail -bt ADDRESS TEST MODE (ruleset 3 NOT automatically invoked) Enter
> 3,0 user@gmail.com Sendmail will print the rules it uses to parse the address. It should end with something like: parse returns: $# relay $@ YOUR . SMARTMAILER . DOMAIN $: user < @ gmail . com . > Where YOUR.SMARTMAILER.DOMAIN is defined in your /etc/mail/sendmail.cf as your relay mailer. It should return your smart mailer even if the mail address does not resolve, the smart mailer. --Mark Tinguely. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:37:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3518216A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yves.vogl@deetune.com) Received: from ds1.dock42.com (ds1.dock42.com [213.239.220.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0741913C45A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yves.vogl@deetune.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ds1.dock42.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6221918004 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:11:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from ds1.dock42.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ds1.dock42.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ndfKbl9blRa7 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:11:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (dtmd-d9bfef0b.pool.mediaWays.net [217.191.239.11]) (Authenticated sender: yves.vogl@deetune.com) by ds1.dock42.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B054918002 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:11:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <82A87AA2-AE4D-44BB-ACD5-6A84924B67BD@deetune.com> From: Yves Vogl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:11:01 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Subject: How to install FreeBSD remotely from Debian Linux Environment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:37:58 -0000 Hi, I tried to install FreeBSD from an existing Debian 4.0 Linux =20 installation with "Depenguinator 1.1". Depenguinator failed due to a wide range of incompatibilities caused =20 by gcc-4.0 and the beta code used in Depenguinator. Next I built an image under my local Mac OS X 10.5 with QEMU - but the =20= next step would have been to copy the image via dd to harddisk of the =20= remote server. The problem is that Linux doesn't support ufs and the additional ufs-=20 tools either won't compile because of gcc-4.0, current Linux kernel =20 etc. . I don't have the possibility to use KVM-over-Ethernet - but I can ask =20= a technician to boot from a CD-ROM. The problem here is that the =20 neither the bootonly.iso or one of the others automatically start SSH =20= and connect via DHCP=85 don't they? So... is there another way to start a remote installation? Best Regards, Yves= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:41:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA2316A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from pollux.dfwlp.com (rrcs-64-183-212-244.sw.biz.rr.com [64.183.212.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6270F13C465 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Received: from citation.local ([192.168.125.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by pollux.dfwlp.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBIf5l5098192; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:41:05 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from freebsd@dfwlp.com) Message-ID: <475ED9C1.2050902@dfwlp.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:41:05 -0600 From: Jonathan Horne User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto References: <2949641c0712110644m2e2965f3p40778d928283ab50@mail.gmail.com> <837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220FA27C53@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> <2949641c0712111026t27844426wba78cf6991856d4a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712111026t27844426wba78cf6991856d4a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on pollux.dfwlp.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:08 -0000 Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > Guyz, > here's my netstat-r output: > > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire > default 192.168.1.80 UGS 0 4 xl0 > 10.10/16 link#4 UC 0 0 xl2 > localhost localhost UH 0 0 lo0 > 192.168.1 link#2 UC 0 0 xl0 > zion.administrativ 00:00:54:19:e7:9a UHLW 1 16 xl0 1151 > 192.168.1.80 00:0e:a6:60:cb:24 UHLW 2 0 xl0 904 > 192.168.2 link#3 UC 0 0 xl1 > 192.168.2.2 00:e0:7d:07:8c:cd UHLW 1 6 xl1 1143 > 200.252.164 link#1 UC 0 0 em0 > > Internet6: > ... > > I have 4 network cards, em0 is connected to the external world (not yet), > the xl0 is connected to my private network 192.168.1 with the ip > 192.168.1.244, the xl1 is connectedto another private network 192.168.2 with > the ip 192.168.2.90 and the xl3 is connected to other school network > 10.10.0with the ip > 10.10.0.50, what I want know is that a machine A in network 192.168.2, with > a ip, for example 192.168.2.2, could ping to a machine B in the network > 192.168.1, with the ip, for example, 192.168.1.10. And it's not working. My > pf firewall just pass all. In rc.conf I just set gateway_enable="YES" and > configured the networks interfaces. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > out of curiosity, are you pinging from the 4-interfaced-connected BSD box, or some other workstation that is trying to use the BSD box as its gateway? -- Jonathan Horne http://dfwlpiki.dfwlp.org freebsd@dfwlp.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:41:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA17B16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D7113C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBBIepVk009964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:41:17 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBBIekqw012875; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:40:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBBIekoe012873; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:40:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:40:46 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071211184046.GA8175@kobe.laptop> References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> <475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.001, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:41:32 -0000 On 2007-12-11 13:25, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You >> should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: >> >> mailq -Ac >> >> Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, and >> the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be working >> fine, but only queueing messages in `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A >> queue runner should also be started to periodically scan and handle >> the clientmqueue messages. I'm sorry, but this is the *third* time I am asking the same thing, and it's getting a bit boring. Do you _really_ want help, or just to have a bit of email fun for a while? You still haven't shown us: * How your local rc system starts Sendmail * The active Sendmail processes you have now > monster-freebsd# !sen > sendmail -bd -q1m -v > # very long pause > 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see > cf/README: WHO AM I? Your DNS is broken, and Sendmail cannot resolve `monster-freebsd'. That's not a Sendmail issue, so I'm ignoring that for now. > monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac > # very long pause > /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) > - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- > - ------------Sender/Recipient----------- > lBAEQDUM077228 9 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh > (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) > aryeh@gmail.com No submission service running. You have to start at least some process which listens on 127.0.0.1:25 for incoming email requests and a queue runner for clientmqueue. I haven't seen any "ps xauwww" output for the Sendmail processes you are currently running, so no idea why you don't have a listener on 127.0.0.1:25. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 18:53:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6225116A47F for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1837D13C46B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so305478pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:53:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=wIla5ij0x91CV4LMxR6Mv2xZhMdF3p56D1BHzzN8Hhw=; b=k34NUrtyUGpM0myh4hdYev74JOvwW2oOUyyHWzMTR4eM+ldxMck2Fj03YDYrGzkSElMQusVo6k12m9rEcnX+igTqm0JPkHGkhvpCg71gdz3b2Yf8+gMEAyC9/MnRjI+O5jM0OheTTOIV2E79r+trDfCmUzdgBSBP5UkA22a9Ycg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H03a0thwCopJgnfPqbHzPEmNbVyezofeoCKEVT6JYUXstINyWbfrD7CkLs5UVvN6CbGYIZ/enI5SM9BAR4UvIKNPVXko5PNxWEfREvTZdS/ik4Nn067Jg2Ks1g3a7EvNYok2hDrFIirE5hslHN1KDW/IFRRhHHRk1sWLrq/HJ0A= Received: by 10.65.100.14 with SMTP id c14mr17491337qbm.1197399217019; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:53:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e14sm4421898qba.2007.12.11.10.53.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:53:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475EDCAE.90907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:53:34 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> <475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com> <20071211184046.GA8175@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20071211184046.GA8175@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:53:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-11 13:25, "Aryeh M. Friedman" > wrote: >> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You >>> should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: >>> >>> mailq -Ac >>> >>> Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, >>> and the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be >>> working fine, but only queueing messages in >>> `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A queue runner should also be >>> started to periodically scan and handle the clientmqueue >>> messages. > > I'm sorry, but this is the *third* time I am asking the same thing, > and it's getting a bit boring. Do you _really_ want help, or just > to have a bit of email fun for a while? > > You still haven't shown us: > > * How your local rc system starts Sendmail Until I can get it right from the command line I am not going to include it in my /etc/rc thus currently there is none > > * The active Sendmail processes you have now Except for the one I start (with the below command line) before sending there is none running... here is the complete transcript of my last attempt to actually send something: > su Password: su: Sorry > clear > su Password: monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m monster-freebsd# mail -v aryeh.friedman@gmail.com Subject: test foo asdasdads . EOT WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... 220 monster-freebsd ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:48:37 -0500 (EST) >>> EHLO monster-freebsd 250-monster-freebsd Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES 250-PIPELINING 250-8BITMIME 250-SIZE 250-DSN 250-ETRN 250-DELIVERBY 250 HELP >>> MAIL From: SIZE=58 250 2.1.0 ... Sender ok >>> RCPT To: DATA 250 2.1.5 ... Recipient ok 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >>> . 250 2.0.0 lBBImbEm000465 Message accepted for delivery aryeh.friedman@gmail.com... Sent (lBBImbEm000465 Message accepted for delivery) Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >>> QUIT 221 2.0.0 monster-freebsd closing connection monster-freebsd# mailq -av mailq: illegal option -- a monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- - ------------Sender/Recipient----------- lBAEQDUM077228 9 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh@gmail.com lBAEtoDS076148 0 Mon Dec 10 09:55 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBALxPJ3000280 9 Mon Dec 10 16:59 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAEZsSH058954 8 Mon Dec 10 09:35 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBBHuZ2I000325 7 Tue Dec 11 12:56 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAF5WYM090152 5 Mon Dec 10 10:05 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAEQhZL082703 10 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com lBAF6r3W005781 9 Mon Dec 10 10:06 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh.friedman@gmail.com Total requests: 8 > >> monster-freebsd# !sen sendmail -bd -q1m -v # very long pause 050 >> WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see >> cf/README: WHO AM I? > > Your DNS is broken, and Sendmail cannot resolve `monster-freebsd'. > That's not a Sendmail issue, so I'm ignoring that for now. > >> monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac # very long pause >> /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- >> -----Q-Time----- - ------------Sender/Recipient----------- >> lBAEQDUM077228 9 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: >> Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) aryeh@gmail.com > > No submission service running. You have to start at least some > process which listens on 127.0.0.1:25 for incoming email requests > and a queue runner for clientmqueue. I haven't seen any "ps > xauwww" output for the Sendmail processes you are currently > running, so no idea why you don't have a listener on 127.0.0.1:25. See above > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXtyuzIOMjAek4JIRAjIdAJ9oJuphO++u0yNYmoKk/XqNAMNCzACeKQ6X +NbyusNUDP8K3WBuOV6h+mw= =fHGK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 19:23:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146A516A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C406B13C467 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FFB39824; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:23:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475EE3C5.7000902@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:23:49 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto References: <2949641c0712110644m2e2965f3p40778d928283ab50@mail.gmail.com> <837487.43875.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <2949641c0712110840p24946faarad962367585a9a78@mail.gmail.com> <6FC9F9894A9F8C49A722CF9F2132FC220FA27C53@ms05.mailstreet2003.net> <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Chris Haulmark , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:23:53 -0000 Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > Yes Chris, but I already have the routes, when I do netstat -r they are > there but I still unable to ping from one network to another. I did read > this section in the handbook but it's not working. I'll paste my netstat -r > output in a while. Could you post your configuration, rc.conf, just the entries related to network interfaces and routing? The BSD box should automatically route any packets between imidiately connected networks without adding any static routes. Do you have any firewalling enabled? Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 19:24:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73D0F16A468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CA413C45D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBBJOS93001664 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:24:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id lBBJONog001663 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:24:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:24:23 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211192423.GB1301@wjv.com> References: <20071211182359.DAED116A50B@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071211182359.DAED116A50B@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:24:30 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 18:23 , while impersonating an expert on the internet, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org sent this to stdout: > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:09:11 -0600 > From: Derek Ragona > Subject: Re: named mystery > To: jekillen , User Questions > > At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote: > >Hello: > >I have two name servers for four domains. > >The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 > >and the secondary is running v 6.2. > >I have an MX record for each of the four registered > >domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host > >mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record > >database is for one of the sites. When I try to send > >an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages > >bounce for dns lookup failure. > >The name that is being looked up is > > .... > >Some how the two names are being mashed together and then > >looked up, causing the resolution failure. As the other respondent noted, that was because of the missing period. I've found that 'nslint' in the /usr/ports/dns hierarchy is a nice little program that will tell you all your errors. I actually run it's output through a 'filter' to get rid of extranous things such as 'in use by xxxx.xxx' as i have several sites that respond to the same IP. > >dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to > >my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they > >have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this. > >There was a period missing after the MX host name record. > >I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name > >server just to insure that named got the change and checked the > >secondary record and it has the change You don't have to reboot Unix systems for almost all things which don't require a kernel change. named.restart will do the job. > >I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary > >name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that > >it is actually running at the time, it was and is. > >but the bak file on the secondary server has > > > > IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. > >$ORIGIN targetDomain.tld. > > > > > >when the record on primary server is > > > >@ IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. > > > >@ in this context should reference the domain this > >file is for. > >If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you > >make any suggestions or recommendations? > >thank you in advance > >Jeff K > Jeff, > I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers. The primary zone > files will have the: > @ > while the secondary zone files will not have these. > In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: ; > MX Record @ IN MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. > > Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show > it is a fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in > this zone file. > > On the secondary server the zone files has: MX 10 > mail.mydomain.com. > > In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record. If you > have multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use > this number to designate the order they should get mail, smaller > numbers are primary to get email. > When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be > sure to change the serial number in that zone file. Also I > usually stop and start named on the primary. I also remove the > backup files on the secondary servers and stop and start named > on those too to see that the new files are transferred and thus > being used. I have about 250 zones in my DNS and I've done something which makes sure that I always have the correct date, but all the domains will show the same date. I've extracted much of what you put in a zone file and put it in a file called named.soa . And in each file is used the $INCLUDE directive [quite handy] that is $INCLUDE named.soa Then I just update the serial number in the one file. It saves a lot of time, particualary yesterday when one client of a support house that uses our servers decided he needed all the standard variants .com, .net, .biz, .mobi, .info, .org, and .tv - plus 5 variants on his domain. I'd just dupe the zone file and make global changes in 'vi' and only have to update the serial number in the named.soa just one time. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 19:34:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E5F16A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C92713C45D for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBJYR0Q060816; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:34:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20071211133417.024f0e18@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:36:14 -0600 To: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <20071211192423.GB1301@wjv.com> References: <20071211182359.DAED116A50B@hub.freebsd.org> <20071211192423.GB1301@wjv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:34:47 -0000 At 01:24 PM 12/11/2007, Bill Vermillion wrote: >On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 18:23 , while impersonating an expert on >the internet, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org sent this to stdout: > > > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:09:11 -0600 > > From: Derek Ragona > > Subject: Re: named mystery > > To: jekillen , User Questions > > > > > At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote: > > >Hello: > > > >I have two name servers for four domains. > > >The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 > > >and the secondary is running v 6.2. > > >I have an MX record for each of the four registered > > >domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host > > >mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record > > >database is for one of the sites. When I try to send > > >an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages > > >bounce for dns lookup failure. > > >The name that is being looked up is > > > .... > > > >Some how the two names are being mashed together and then > > >looked up, causing the resolution failure. > >As the other respondent noted, that was because of the missing >period. > >I've found that 'nslint' in the /usr/ports/dns hierarchy >is a nice little program that will tell you all your errors. >I actually run it's output through a 'filter' to get rid of >extranous things such as 'in use by xxxx.xxx' as i have >several sites that respond to the same IP. > > > >dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to > > >my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they > > >have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this. > > > >There was a period missing after the MX host name record. > > >I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name > > >server just to insure that named got the change and checked the > > >secondary record and it has the change > >You don't have to reboot Unix systems for almost all things which >don't require a kernel change. named.restart will do the job. > > > >I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary > > >name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that > > >it is actually running at the time, it was and is. > > >but the bak file on the secondary server has > > > > > > IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. > > >$ORIGIN targetDomain.tld. > > > > > > > > >when the record on primary server is > > > > > >@ IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. > > > > > >@ in this context should reference the domain this > > >file is for. > > >If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you > > >make any suggestions or recommendations? > > >thank you in advance > > >Jeff K > > > Jeff, > > > I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers. The primary zone > > files will have the: > > @ > > while the secondary zone files will not have these. > > > In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: ; > > MX Record @ IN MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. > > > > Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show > > it is a fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in > > this zone file. > > > > On the secondary server the zone files has: MX 10 > > mail.mydomain.com. > > > > In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record. If you > > have multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use > > this number to designate the order they should get mail, smaller > > numbers are primary to get email. > > > When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be > > sure to change the serial number in that zone file. Also I > > usually stop and start named on the primary. I also remove the > > backup files on the secondary servers and stop and start named > > on those too to see that the new files are transferred and thus > > being used. > >I have about 250 zones in my DNS and I've done something which >makes sure that I always have the correct date, but all the >domains will show the same date. > >I've extracted much of what you put in a zone file and put >it in a file called named.soa . And in each file >is used the $INCLUDE directive [quite handy] that >is $INCLUDE named.soa > >Then I just update the serial number in the one file. It saves >a lot of time, particualary yesterday when one client of >a support house that uses our servers decided he needed >all the standard variants .com, .net, .biz, .mobi, .info, .org, >and .tv - plus 5 variants on his domain. > >I'd just dupe the zone file and make global changes in 'vi' >and only have to update the serial number in the named.soa >just one time. > >Bill Bill, I didn't know about the include statement, I will do that with my zone files too. Good to know about the nslint utility too. I am one who makes typos, so it will be a good way to make sure the files are at least syntax correct. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:06:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B792316A468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9162B13C478 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AF45980A3; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:22 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475EEDAB.5040709@onetel.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:03 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Predrag Punosevac References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> <475C95C6.4070702@math.arizona.edu> In-Reply-To: <475C95C6.4070702@math.arizona.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:35 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Any video posted on Youtube will work for youtube-dl . It will snap the > file in .flv format which can be player only with VLC and MPlayer. > Nothing else. Clive is capable of snapping videos from Google video as > well and has an additional capabilities to converting > .flv files to more friendly video formats like .MPG > > So what do you think? That I can not watch YouTube because I use > FreeBSD? Funny... /me laughs But seriously yes I have to confess that in certain respects I do have that expectation of FreeBSD. It's not about what it can do it's about what people want to make it do. If I don't have ability/time/impetus to make it do something I accept it and I am very grateful for the solutions posted here. Sorry, really OT. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:06:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E489416A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995DD13C45A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBBK6bNZ002117; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:06:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id lBBK6WU7002116; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:06:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:06:32 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: Derek Ragona Message-ID: <20071211200632.GA1911@wjv.com> References: <20071211182359.DAED116A50B@hub.freebsd.org> <20071211192423.GB1301@wjv.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20071211133417.024f0e18@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20071211133417.024f0e18@mail.computinginnovations.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:06:45 -0000 Derek Ragona, the prominent pundit, on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 13:36 while half mumbling, half-witicized: > At 01:24 PM 12/11/2007, Bill Vermillion wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 18:23 , while impersonating an expert on > >the internet, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org sent this to stdout: > >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:09:11 -0600 > >> From: Derek Ragona > >> Subject: Re: named mystery > >> To: jekillen , User Questions > > > > >> At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote: > >> >Hello: [lots of stuff snipped - wjv] > >> >I have two name servers for four domains. > >> >The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 > >> >and the secondary is running v 6.2. > >> >I have an MX record for each of the four registered > >> >domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host > >> >mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record > >> >database is for one of the sites. When I try to send > >> >an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages > >> >bounce for dns lookup failure. > >> >The name that is being looked up is > >> > .... > >> >Some how the two names are being mashed together and then > >> >looked up, causing the resolution failure. > >As the other respondent noted, that was because of the missing > >period. > >I've found that 'nslint' in the /usr/ports/dns hierarchy > >is a nice little program that will tell you all your errors. > >I actually run it's output through a 'filter' to get rid of > >extranous things such as 'in use by xxxx.xxx' as i have > >several sites that respond to the same IP. .... > >> >There was a period missing after the MX host name record. > >> >I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name > >> >server just to insure that named got the change and checked the > >> >secondary record and it has the change > >You don't have to reboot Unix systems for almost all things which > >don't require a kernel change. named.restart will do the job. > >> Jeff, > >> I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers. The > >> primary zone files will have the: > >> @ > >> while the secondary zone files will not have these. > >> In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: ; > >> MX Record @ IN MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. > >> Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show > >> it is a fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in > >> this zone file. .... > >> When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be > >> sure to change the serial number in that zone file. Also I > >> usually stop and start named on the primary. I also remove the > >> backup files on the secondary servers and stop and start named > >> on those too to see that the new files are transferred and thus > >> being used. > >I have about 250 zones in my DNS and I've done something which > >makes sure that I always have the correct date, but all the > >domains will show the same date. > >I've extracted much of what you put in a zone file and put > >it in a file called named.soa . And in each file > >is used the $INCLUDE directive [quite handy] that > >is $INCLUDE named.soa > >Then I just update the serial number in the one file. It saves > >a lot of time, particualary yesterday when one client of > >a support house that uses our servers decided he needed > >all the standard variants .com, .net, .biz, .mobi, .info, .org, > >and .tv - plus 5 variants on his domain. > > > >I'd just dupe the zone file and make global changes in 'vi' > >and only have to update the serial number in the named.soa > >just one time. > > > >Bill > Bill, > I didn't know about the include statement, I will do that with > my zone files too. There are many shortcuts availabe and I don't use many of them. I first had to learn and put up DNS on an SCO server back in about 1994 when a local community-college for whom I was doing data base work, needed to get an internet connection. So it was sendmail on SCO - in the 4.x variety and then I took the best parts of the O'Reily book and the SCO docs and came up with my own variant. The SCO system did use the $INCLUDE. And I've used that ever since. I also have machines in our own domain - plus others - so I have the named.conf pointing to a sub-directory called 'sites' that are domains that don't belong to us. And I always found the xx.xx.xx.xx.in-addr.arpa a bit confusing to look at in a directory so I map that to files called named.rev.63.209.114 [and others] so when I search the directory the last relative quad in the listing is last. So when I need to change the reverse file it is just vi *.114. I'm lazy!! The named.hosts has all the IP addresses in it, and the only ones that are 'active' are the domains we control, BUT I have the domain listing for others with a leading ; but the name and IP in the list. This way I can scan that and find out just what IPs are in use. Little things like that make admininstering things much easier, at least for me. > Good to know about the nslint utility too. I am one who makes > typos, so it will be a good way to make sure the files are at least syntax > correct. > -Derek I never restart DNS after modifications without first running nslint. I also have 2 name servers, but I run both as primaries. Probably not the best thing - but they are on two separate machines - and I have only one network connection with a /23 block of IPs. Located in a Level 3 colo and have had less than 45 minutes of downtime from them. One was an admin mistake by our manage, the other was a flacky card in a Cisco 12000 - where small packets would get through but others would start dropping packets. That happened at about 630AM and was fixed by 700AM so no business users were affected. I think we are about the smallest ISP in existance, and we ARE the smallest in the Level 3 colo - going in the first week they opened - before they had the high $$ monthly requirements - which we could not meet now. Glad to be of help. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:17:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3CF16A47B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289F213C468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:17:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBBKHbeO028995; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBBKHb6B028994; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:17:36 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Randy Pratt Message-ID: <20071211201736.GB28415@thought.org> References: <20071211082149.GA23613@thought.org> <20071211072947.2949077f.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071211072947.2949077f.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:17:41 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:29:47AM -0500, Randy Pratt wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:21:49 -0800 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, > > using both my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning > > a DVD that is larger than thee default. This time I'm using a > > documentary that I own, so there is nothing wrong in making a > > backup. Results: Same thing as happened with the other > > commercially created DVD. > > > > K3B reads the disk flawlessly, but growisofs fails (perhaps) to do > > its thing. In any case, the program complains that there is not > > enough space on the blank and spits out the disk. > > > > I've tried replacing "auto" with "generic-mmc-raw" on the Lit-On > > burner. Nope. Anybody other suggestions? > > It may be that the source DVD is using some compression method to > fit the content on a 4.7G DVD. The size of the original DVD can > be checked with "dvd+rw-mediainfo" (sysutils/dvd+rw-tools), ex: The source is just over 6GB. bOth of my devices play them. k3b gave the exact number, but it is over 6.1 G. > > # dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/cd0 > > If the source DVD is a 4.7G DVD then the simplest way might be to > first make a duplicate image with "dd", for example: > > # dd bs=2048 if=/dev/cd0 of=duplicate.iso Ah, ok, this is what k3b put in /ust/tmp/kde-kline/foo.iso. I decided to just-leave it for now. Only my source DVDs are around 6G rather than 4.7G. > > This should produce an image of suitable size in the current > directory to fit on another DVD which can be burned with > "growisofs" (sysutils/dvd +rw-tools): > > # growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=4 -Z /dev/cd0=duplicate.iso > > The preceeding commands are only examples and may need to be > adjusted for your hardware/situation. > I'm going to have to man -t the man page and read offline. Looks like I'll need to compress the source. On Sunday, Michel Talon mentioned "dvdshrink"; locate doesn't find it. thanks much, Randy, gary > HTH, > > Randy > -- -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:21:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC5D16A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7897513C43E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:21:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 11151 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2007 20:21:35 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 20:21:34 -0000 Message-ID: <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <475EC318.90104@dial.pipex.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:21:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:21:37 -0000 Ok But I have another problem, I couldn't use any command interior of sed command. That's to say I have a script; yy="file5" for i in `cat file1`; do sed -e 's/old1/new1\ \'$i'/g' -e 's/old2/'cut -d, -f 1 ${yy}'/g' file2 > file3 done When I run the script, I get an error, due to using cut command > Do you mean something like: > > sed -e 's/string1/replacement1/g' -e 's/string2/replacement2/g' > > or > > sed -f instructions.sed > > instructions.sed: > > s/string1/replacement1/g > s/string2/replacement2/g > > --Alex > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:29:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC04F16A473 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D5413C43E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:29:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so488034ele for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=CZiOENLn3jqkfG+i50sKA0uQGTondPIxT0O+e9+k9WE=; b=Vjpcbwu14iK9pYQVvLhVLQM+wisJ9D3wOB1eXgYEOFRP5Z6x+4rH2oVkmhtQyOfbEiQVzc1stq+zz+yd2yQQECAavsWei650EszAy7RDZghj93DmCUq20ehD4Ff+VOBWAT1vWMc3Q0jrMXELDCxGZ5C3icxttA46NFj1IwD2Ncg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=rhKXP1j7vEq5u5/cjhM1z7iONj+afEoobIqnivcxU4EcVUQrWzs6yO7VuTDjNnMFcfrHYKe041qF4+0TfixEoX/vYqDqioCvrR6OMh5qd9A7QepVRwXWe8hWuDs5XqiwHKRc/h/G9CZT0dBLK15cmxV/T4KHI3wUwLlaDXLzsYI= Received: by 10.150.185.14 with SMTP id i14mr2879936ybf.1197404961644; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from swordfish.local.claimlynx.com ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a70sm13750730pye.2007.12.11.12.29.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:29:20 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <1067EDE1-2E10-4F28-BC71-BC6BB08F2E9B@gmail.com> From: Eric Crist To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712110529t102170c2u833fef022d4d37ae@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:29:16 -0600 References: <2949641c0712110529t102170c2u833fef022d4d37ae@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:29:23 -0000 Add gateway_enable=3D"YES" to /etc/rc.conf. Make sure your other systems use the freebsd box in question as their =20= default route. make sure your firewall, if you have one, is passing the traffic =20 between the two networks. Use pf or some other means to nat outbound traffic. HTH On Dec 11, 2007, at 7:29 AM, Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > Hi guyz, it's me again. I think I don't know what I'm doing, so I =20 > ask for > help. I have three private networks(192.168.1, 10.10.0, 192.168.2) =20 > and a > link to the external world 200.212.X, what I want to do is that my =20 > FreeBSD > connect all the networks to the external world and the 192.168.1 to =20= > the > 10.10.0, so a machine in 192.168.1 would ping to a machine in =20 > 10.10.0. I > have a brand new copy of freebsd in my machine, I just configured =20 > the four > interfaces in rc.conf, that's all I did. gateway_enable is set to =20 > true. > The interfaces are connected to each network. What's the next step? > > Atenciosamente, > Alaor Neto > CEFET Campos/UNED Maca=E9 > Coordena=E7=E3o de Tecnologia da Informa=E7=E3o > (22) 9217-3198 / (22) 2773-6530 ramal 2035 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:33:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB9816A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:33:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jason.B.Ham.ctr@nga.mil) Received: from relay2.nga.mil (relay2.nga.mil [164.214.4.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0B513C478 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:33:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jason.B.Ham.ctr@nga.mil) Received: from CONWSH01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil (conwsh01.nga.mil [164.214.104.187]) by relay2.nga.mil with ESMTP id lBBKPblw014610 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from XCGSTL01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil ([164.214.182.161]) by CONWSH01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:21:51 -0500 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:21:50 -0600 Message-ID: <98C277567E731946AF64A9008432DD0A053D0EA1@XCGSTL01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Version 5.4 Thread-Index: Acg8M3Y8r6gdzIp0Rk6F8Cfyblpzog== From: "Ham, Jason B. [C]" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2007 20:21:51.0199 (UTC) FILETIME=[76AB36F0:01C83C33] Cc: Subject: Version 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:33:58 -0000 I have a question as to whether there is support for the free bsd version 5.4. Please advise. v/r Jason B. Ham CSIC - NGA STL Certification Engineer (314)676-5111 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 20:43:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B0516A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B121F13C447 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so395886pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:43:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=hvmjDn+00mz90PEwSJjWIKeZ+6rtHhNSuv5lJGr1LIE=; b=rLJ6rhyHOqlQr1+1fkz8qS6qQdywMFJ7QFnCcNsYuyrybN8vREb1yJyr3iCerSgVflOkgZCEWe3RzfePmDtzuRuJ4iP0fBM1ryCmE2URPhQxylA5oQxNy0u6Z8l29M4zJNUQKCC+p5UJuhwtKP3D3sajlMu0QwmpO3uoTiaJ1jI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=VORV2w5lNTMDJWZ0+x55f3SN+66rf7kYh4bl7uvSnlJBCcU+UYuQ0ZvH7Qw1vCLFKb5xZSOuMbBXtofPZb4HVx26Y1bxCJ7g5V8HfF0enuKqn2Ktht//pR17UrDzR7sWQhtP3rlLBpV679IgnMEgw2PCtmUfOtAXoPrBf87Kycc= Received: by 10.64.148.8 with SMTP id v8mr9444971qbd.1197405794760; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.107.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:43:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:43:14 -0500 From: "Aryeh Friedman" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:43:20 -0000 I have both vista and freebsd 8-current installed on the same drive and also have allocated the rest of the disk to be a fat32 partition. I know I should put any data I want to be passed between the two on the fat32 partition. Now the question is how to lay it out so that: 1. The home dir for my account of FreeBSD = Vista account's root dir 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is automatic) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:01:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E47C16A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4480213C4FF for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBL1mIY087926; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 24812B829; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:48 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "Ham, Jason B. [C]" Message-ID: <20071211210148.GA76488@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: "Ham, Jason B. [C]" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <98C277567E731946AF64A9008432DD0A053D0EA1@XCGSTL01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <98C277567E731946AF64A9008432DD0A053D0EA1@XCGSTL01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:01:51 -0000 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:21:50PM -0600, Ham, Jason B. [C] wrote: > I have a question as to whether there is support for the free bsd > version 5.4. Please advise. Officially, 5.4 isn't supported by the FreeBSD project anymore. See http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html#freeze=20 Having said that, if you ask a question on this mailing list you will probably get an answer.=20 But if your problem is solved in a later (and supported) version, the advice will probably be to upgrade. There will probably be little interest from the maintainers in applying fixes to the RELENG_5_4 branch. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHXvq8EnfvsMMhpyURAr9dAKCK98Few4Of2dgfz8p+ayOhsU49JwCbBWCq XNcZvMvH9HP+gGYkKLWPFs4= =4fw2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:13:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A1816A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:13:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CADB13C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBLDMml023575; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:13:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 86717B829; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:13:22 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:13:22 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Aryeh Friedman Message-ID: <20071211211322.GB76488@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Aryeh Friedman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+g7M9IMkV8truYOl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:13:25 -0000 --+g7M9IMkV8truYOl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 03:43:14PM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have both vista and freebsd 8-current installed on the same drive > and also have allocated the rest of the disk to be a fat32 partition. > I know I should put any data I want to be passed between the two on > the fat32 partition. Now the question is how to lay it out so that: >=20 > 1. The home dir for my account of FreeBSD =3D Vista account's root dir In FreeBSD you can mount the fat32 partition on /home/$USER. How to handle this in vista you'd have to ask somewhere else, I think. The FAT "filesystem" doesn't handle a lot of things (like file and directory permissions) that UFS2 does. So this doesn't strike me as a really good idea. > 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is automat= ic) Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do something usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and stuff would point to windows programs/drives anyway. 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( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e17sm4452695qbe.2007.12.11.13.19.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:19:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475EFED2.3090502@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:19:14 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aryeh Friedman , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20071211211322.GB76488@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071211211322.GB76488@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:19:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is >> automatic) > > Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for > FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do something > usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and stuff would > point to windows programs/drives anyway. Every x desktop manager calls it ~/Desktop -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXv7SzIOMjAek4JIRAuevAKChfCrPaxxihu6CLhB7McYavS/7MQCfV2W8 oncy1spTaxdiCMHk3+eZWWE= =ZClh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:19:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711C816A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CFBCE13C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:19:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 18448 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2007 21:19:32 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 21:19:30 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c83c3b$7e5b0350$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:19:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How can I assign these valuables concerning places as correctly ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:19:31 -0000 I have a file called A which contains variable values as below; file1, abc12 foot1, cba11 boby, def123 ... Also I have another file called B which contains partly valuable values = as following; begin Server valuable1 Client valuable2 end I have to assign the first column valuables in A to valuable1 in B and = assign second column valuable1 in A to valuable2 in B. Finally I should see as following in a file called C Server file1 Client abc12 Server foot1 Client cba11 Server boby=20 Client def123 How can I do that ? Could you give me a script ? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:21:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F43116A476 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4D413C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:21:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB54B7F5AF1; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.163.151] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J2CXW-000892-00; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:21:18 +0100 Message-ID: <475EFF89.9040406@web.de> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:22:17 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Halid Faith References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <475EC318.90104@dial.pipex.com> <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+cABh3yXQ/IikMfXczV+o/ebPqhiJbaN1uO59e AQ8WqnNPjPUd1xCsNgvED8Ncp+YjE4nkwEtYCqenQL1Qc+fNsb 2XKyThoMQ= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:21:21 -0000 Halid Faith schrieb: > Ok > But I have another problem, > I couldn't use any command interior of sed command. That's to say I have a > script; > > yy="file5" > for i in `cat file1`; > do > sed -e 's/old1/new1\ \'$i'/g' -e 's/old2/'cut -d, -f 1 ${yy}'/g' file2 > > file3 > done > > When I run the script, I get an error, due to using cut command > > > > For using environment variables in sed, you have to use # instead of / VAR="TEXT" sed s#OLD#${VAR}#g file1 Will replace OLD by TEXT. Do not use quotations here... Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:33:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD4F16A46E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF3413C4E9 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:33:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr13.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBLXKcc069611; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:33:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC134B829; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:33:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:33:20 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: "Aryeh M. 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:33:22 -0000 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:19:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 >=20 > >> 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is > >> automatic) > > > > Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for > > FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do something > > usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and stuff would > > point to windows programs/drives anyway. >=20 > Every x desktop manager calls it ~/Desktop What doe you mean by "desktop manager"? If you mean window manager, it is definitely not true. For instance, fvwm2 uses ~/.fvwm/config. If you mean desktop environments, it is also not true. According to their respective documentations, KDE uses ~/.kde be default, and Gnome uses ~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2 and ~/.local/share. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHXwIgEnfvsMMhpyURAm/7AJ9+/MbeIESyL2/NtnD+aXFuNhalIQCgq30j XA8UERDdfB0CMiCSU54rGkI= =Um+x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:36:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8603D16A47E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4633713C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so436261pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:36:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TvPesx2o10xFsk1+3pBBMijUpPr30wSQcn7Qx9Hqmdo=; b=U+cH/9KIPpRAQ4MAIxJtq9CVFEaPvxeURroDMGL3OSXB3gSZcgtU2Q6Wap4R76e3W9vVbFABPe34r1dAw7QVhT8IUn7xtWV3KpRYyWs5jgTBeBYdOyydYECoBQexC4vftNqsBQGbLlTKzMaflc7EnNgpQtYFfzYtgpusmDX9+W0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aMOlmbiCggGqQtBsT1HFXEQ2cZ60eOj2NoMxYh2DK8dALm9OBXV8Nmivgc+fKqjJmegFxpPCIWi5yiKLnR7wWQKlA3QsfO1RL7XsZ9+0sax33HBZAtNNesmFsbEKiCQ/bJCZUlrgXJxDgcuanKA+uryjHA2mmFmrsOkugwvS68g= Received: by 10.65.107.10 with SMTP id j10mr17838548qbm.1197409012376; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:36:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e16sm4208177qba.2007.12.11.13.36.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:36:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475F02F2.4090809@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:36:50 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <20071211211322.GB76488@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <475EFED2.3090502@gmail.com> <20071211213320.GA77610@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20071211213320.GA77610@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:53 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:19:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> >>>> 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved >>>> this is automatic) >>> Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for >>> FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do >>> something usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and >>> stuff would point to windows programs/drives anyway. >> Every x desktop manager calls it ~/Desktop > > What doe you mean by "desktop manager"? If you mean window manager, > it is definitely not true. For instance, fvwm2 uses ~/.fvwm/config. > Where did I say wm? > > If you mean desktop environments, it is also not true. According to > their respective documentations, KDE uses ~/.kde be default, and > Gnome uses ~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2 and ~/.local/share. I guess you don't use X... even though the above is correct both gnome and kde create ~/Desktop and the desktop manager display (usually a standalone executable seperate then the wm components) by default shows it's contents on the desktop... btw I use xfce and same thing there > > Roland -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXwLyzIOMjAek4JIRAuzWAKCEniiU3kDiNWjtiZJ4zUcnN7J4bQCfT5F0 6Tcj1Cg9NvdqnJYneJAIkTs= =MQ7d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:39:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E2416A46E for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B48E13C4D3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:39:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 193AD39824; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475F03A0.2030807@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:44 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ham, Jason B. [C]" References: <98C277567E731946AF64A9008432DD0A053D0EA1@XCGSTL01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil> In-Reply-To: <98C277567E731946AF64A9008432DD0A053D0EA1@XCGSTL01.gold.rtgold.nima.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Version 5.4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:39:46 -0000 Ham, Jason B. [C] wrote: > I have a question as to whether there is support for the free bsd > version 5.4. Please advise. The latest and last release on the RELENG_5 branch is 5.5, 5.4 is not supported as I understand. In any case it is a good idea to plan migration to 6.x or 7.0. 6.x will become legacy release branch once 7.0 is released. Regarding 5.5: "This is the last planned release on the 5-STABLE branch. The FreeBSD development community is currently focusing its efforts on the 6-STABLE and CURRENT codelines. No new major features are planned for the 5-STABLE branch, although minor updates and bugfixes may be merged at the discretion of individual developers. The FreeBSD security team will support the FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-based security branch with advisories and security patches until the end-of-life date documented at http://security.freebsd.org/ (as of this writing, May 31, 2008)." Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 21:43:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D0716A587 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:43:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A813C4E3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBBLhNL9029394; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:43:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBBLhNDW029393; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:43:23 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20071211214323.GD28415@thought.org> References: <20071211102810.GA99652@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071211102810.GA99652@lpthe.jussieu.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:43:25 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:28:10AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: > Gary Kline wrote: > > > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, using both > > my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning a DVD that is > > larger than thee default. > > How do want this to work? You have to recompress the initial DVD stream, > and for that there is an excellent program to run under your KDE account > (k9copy). > i don't seem too get very far with k9copy. I have two burners, and can open either device. I had it set to read from cd0 and wwrite to cd1. The app reports that there is no documentation available for k9copy. Is there a front commmand string I can use here? Or online docs? gary > > -- > > Michel TALON > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:01:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC4E16A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B2913C4DB for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so2363244rvb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5MfkQ5pVX9pV5ntPnT7fnx4IdhtIM7w3LfVkggjJhPA=; b=WwvUggcGvf1V8+eJudIHqd1wUqnJ4cp7quGQEwxM7f1quEPLSi7a96ZnvAcr0FClP/5/w3G3x/VyxfzMcU4rrE2EGrqOLr2O7BknV/VkVUDFmXRulhIyI/sSjPeoQGKWZKav82/Pjc49Y62UJVrzdp4DLazRpAkg4DiWWV0pyuA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jwLiZ+/wz41d7we35I9apZwe+GBWElVUZm8P5i27B2BtFU5jYFayqwL6nIFI+t9YfAUbJVCtZ8m2Agfl39KABby+V7KsumpQe5o8xbJb9Avndu06Dtk6y67W0WBTzpkm6O0K88Ky9fy3YlLltevbOvMYe+XmEzihGhdD9Mc+9HA= Received: by 10.141.205.10 with SMTP id h10mr529352rvq.1197410456590; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.37.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:00:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712111400y70361e32nb46fdbda02c4e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:00:56 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071211212447.GA1562@basement.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> <20071211212447.GA1562@basement.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:01:06 -0000 2007/12/11, Jonathan Horne freebsd@dfwlp.com: > out of curiosity, are you pinging from the 4-interfaced-connected BSD > box, or some other workstation that is trying to use the BSD box as its > gateway? >From a workstation that is trying to use BSD box as its gateway and have the ip of the BSD box as it's default gateway in network settings. My BSD box can ping to everywhere. 2007/12/11, Erik Norgaard > Could you post your configuration, rc.conf, just the entries related to > network interfaces and routing? > > The BSD box should automatically route any packets between imidiately > connected networks without adding any static routes. Do you have any > firewalling enabled? > > Cheers, Erik I'm not in my work anymore but I'll try to remember it as it is: defaultroute="192.168.1.80" hostname="tiger.administrativo.unedmacae.cefetcampos.br" gateway_enable="YES" ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.227" ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.244 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_xl1="inet 192.168.2.90 netmask 255.255.255.0" ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.10.0.50 netmask 255.255.0.0" pf_enable="YES" pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" pf_flags="" pflog_enable="YES" pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" pflog_flags="" The rest is just is all the default from the installation. 2007/12/11, Eric Crist > Add > > gateway_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. > > Make sure your other systems use the freebsd box in question as their > default route. > > make sure your firewall, if you have one, is passing the traffic > between the two networks. > > Use pf or some other means to nat outbound traffic. > > HTH I already have this line in my rc.conf. 2007/12/11, Trix Farrar : > It sounds like your BSD server is configured correctly. You may, > however, need to tell the other devices on your different networks how > to find their way. > > Given that you have networks A, B and C that are each connected to > each other by your BSD server, F, the hosts on network A have to know > how to find network B and network C. If the three networks already > have routers the hosts use as a default gateway, then those routers > will need to have routes added to find your other networks; the > network A router needs to have routes to networks B and C that point > to your BSD server and so on. How I do that? Thankz guyz for your attention with me! I'm going to have nightmares with this trouble. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:19:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A7B16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A87513C458 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:19:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1137539824; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:19:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475F0CE6.9070008@locolomo.org> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:19:18 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto References: <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> <20071211212447.GA1562@basement.net> <2949641c0712111400y70361e32nb46fdbda02c4e8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712111400y70361e32nb46fdbda02c4e8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:19:19 -0000 Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > defaultroute="192.168.1.80" > hostname="tiger.administrativo.unedmacae.cefetcampos.br" > gateway_enable="YES" > ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.227" > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.244 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl1="inet 192.168.2.90 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.10.0.50 netmask 255.255.0.0" > pf_enable="YES" > pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" > pf_flags="" > pflog_enable="YES" > pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" > pflog_flags="" > Thankz guyz for your attention with me! I'm going to have nightmares with > this trouble. Summing up, your local networks should be able to communicate accross the BSD box once you have gateway_enable="YES", you do not need NAT for that to work. If it doesn't work, then your firewall may be blocking. For access to the Internet from any of the local networks you need to configure NAT. If you need help with that you need to post your pf ruleset. Everything else seems correct. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:24:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351A516A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:24:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolaj.thygesen@diamondbox.dk) Received: from csmtp1.b-one.net (csmtp1.b-one.net [195.47.247.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64F213C468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:24:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolaj.thygesen@diamondbox.dk) Received: from diamond.tele.dk (83.73.227.160.ip.tele2adsl.dk [83.73.227.160]) by csmtp1.b-one.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6856810B2E22 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:00:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475F086B.80608@diamondbox.dk> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:00:11 +0100 From: Nikolaj Thygesen Organization: diamondbox.dk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> <20071210130522.P48709@shell.xecu.net> In-Reply-To: <20071210130522.P48709@shell.xecu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD Wacom driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:24:56 -0000 Hi, Having just aquired a usb wacom tablet and discovering the linuxwacom project, I was wondering why only serial tablets are supported on FBSD?? br - Nikolaj From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:25:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F9E16A4A7 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A20313C4DB for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so960447nzf for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:25:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eMrYM6hcGim2J03tRvv0NOst/WHRdtnbjQ6cr+CO2Yw=; b=moVixf89CbGLQY8OtXA5xQDmZBQAW3ej1+Sj8Rd6+ZfAowJsmfSmDjDdlEIO9zTKY9opzHJjCagMt8NMLPluzeAvNPVxP+OwTFqaYK76UQU2vFuRLwWI9k00Kj0fQU7lZp5uouh1fN5nA9dP65NMz3tLNHfYO9Wyf9a4Cr2xl0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=EvGpMJsH5GpHXvn1Qz5AwHHOxzh66narAdbOMfwlMZ0C9fWxtjbrOh4OMzp2hn7bCPbpDsLw3gCPTswPbR0FkjSbSqpzT4ILucAKR5urvW2a6nbtHugmGFfQ7ZlCjfhjJbxFuTkIGybVRn5xFl6Revralhw8vw41HV48ifQFJ1U= Received: by 10.140.180.13 with SMTP id c13mr3952rvf.1197411918992; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.37.3 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:25:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712111425y5e232104s9cc1172c8041ffea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:25:18 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: "Erik Norgaard" In-Reply-To: <475F0CE6.9070008@locolomo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2949641c0712110853i6db025d5s71ae18c7e2f14a45@mail.gmail.com> <20071211212447.GA1562@basement.net> <2949641c0712111400y70361e32nb46fdbda02c4e8@mail.gmail.com> <475F0CE6.9070008@locolomo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:20 -0000 2007/12/11, Erik Norgaard norgaard@locolomo.org: > > Summing up, your local networks should be able to communicate accross > the BSD box once you have gateway_enable="YES", you do not need NAT for > that to work. If it doesn't work, then your firewall may be blocking. > > For access to the Internet from any of the local networks you need to > configure NAT. > > If you need help with that you need to post your pf ruleset. Everything > else seems correct. > > Cheers, Erik My pf just pass everything, my pfctl -sr: pass in all pass out all It's the second time I install this machine, configure everything just like the handbook and it doesn't work. You can call me crazy but I'm starting to think it can be related with the CD I used to install it, it's a freebsd 6.2but it's burned in a CD-RW. I don't trust that much in CD-RW integrity. Is it crazyness? I don't know what else to think. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:25:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094F216A421 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA3C13C474 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBBMPcmi029603; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:25:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBBMPbgs029602; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:25:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:25:37 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Ted Mittelstaedt Message-ID: <20071211222537.GE28415@thought.org> References: <20071209101050.GD4442@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Gary Kline , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:25:40 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 02:41:08AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > Hi Gary, > > You mentioned you wanted to record a 117 minute COMMERCIAL dvd. Now, > before I continue let me explain that doing so is illegal in the US. > All commercial DVD's are encrypted and the DMCA makes decrypting of > them illegal, it even makes it illegal to give someone a copy of > a program that will decrypt them, it makes it illegal to even write > and post online the source code to such a program. It is NOT illegal > to print up such source code in a paper book and sell it - the authors > of DMCA wanted to duck the 1st amendment - Google DeCSS for > an understanding of the controversy. I'll check it out when I have nothig better to do! I've given up on copying the one commercial DVD but still want to back up my Jos Campbell DVD. Before it gets scratched up. Or lost. > > With this in mind understand that CSS was broken years ago. Because > of this, the DVD producers figured out that copying wasn't much of > an obstacle to the unwashed masses, particulary when free programs > for Windows began to show up. > > Many people with children have found that they accumulate a large > number of Disney videos. They have also found the kids tend to scratch > the shit out of them. So there is a large interest in being able to > copy these things and store the masters safely away, then give the > kids the copy to destroy. So all copying of commercial DVD's is not > for piracy and I think people who assert this are moronic idiots. > Further, with Disney DVD's, Disney lately has taken to inserting > commercials for Disney cruise lines and other garbage into the DVD's > that are NOT skippable with a normal DVD player. Responsible parents > do not wish their kids to view this crap and so naturally there is > another reason to copy these - to remaster them to prune out these > commercials so the kids don't view them. Also illegal under the > law as the copyright holder hasn't given you permission to do this. It wasn't bad enough that Ol' Walt loved Uncle Adolf; but the corporate culture hasn't changed that much now, has it? > > Anyway, Disney is greedy and wishes people to continue to > buy replacement DVD's for ones they already own, and they want to push > their crappy and junky cruise lines. So they take a dim view of copying. > They know the CSS has been broken so these days they use all manner > of different copy protection. One system is to intentionally press > the DVD with some sectors using invalid CRC's thus a regular block ISO > copy program will hit these sectors and assume the DVD is bad and > abort. The menu on the DVD avoids these sectors, naturally. The > latest trick is to damage the filesystem on the DVD in > such a way as to make the DVD readable by a DVD player but not by > a computer DVD drive. Pirates of Carribean 3 has that one, for example. > There are many other copy protection tricks, it is a cat-and-mouse > game that entire websites are devoted to following. Interestingly, > since so many of these schemes utterly violate the DVD standards, > companies like Disney are not allowed to use the official DVD logos > on the boxes that they package their DVD's on. That is why Disney > for example has their own logo - Disney DVD - which is meaningless > under the standard. this i hadn't heaard, but it doesn't surprise me. > > So far, of the HD formats, HD-DVD encryption has also been cracked > and Blue Ray has not. That is why this Christmas Disney is pushing > Blue Ray and isn't making their movie titles available in HD-DVD. > > Anyway, the fact is that none of the open source DVD copying > programs can really deal with these advanced systems. They can > deal with CSS but that's it. If your plan is to copy commercial > DVD's for your own use, you should be aware of all this. Right > now, the most advanced DVD cracking programs that will deal with > ALL of the perverted copy protection schemes in use are only available > as commercial programs for Windows. (Some trialware, some not) > And none are available over-the-counter in the US, you have to > download them from foreign websites. > Well, if it takes messing with Dos: no thanks. for as little as I watch any video, if I can't tape it off PBS, then I'll buy whatever DVDs there are. Just a shame that I can't make a backup. Oh-well. Compared to all the rest of the BS and global problems, *this* issue isn't even a hill of beans. gary > Ted > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 > 2:51 PM > -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:26:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF1016A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD2F13C474 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.188] (port=53019 helo=smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J28Te-0006mh-SY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:01:03 +0100 Received: from cp1228410-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.157.163]:55266 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J28Te-0003Bv-5M for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:01:02 +0100 Received: by desktop.homenet (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:00:19 +0100 From: "Danny Pansters" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:00:19 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> X-Face: (Zs+'ncTcchkOX|~t6{?Iii=O!G#WEK!+OD0|-F=i%1pvP5V_Sz4PaJC8o)=?utf-8?q?MiSnH/JMJFy=0A=09oBN-My?=, v":S7, (=?utf-8?q?mmkPm=27U=7BMgT+eM=2EBd=5Cp/P!dr=5DhOTXqpse21O!=25Ct=60SE=2EOodq?= =?utf-8?q?=5Dry=5E=23kU=5E=0A=09-?=GT.[8D}i$6P>=" =?utf-8?q?=23=0A=09*J+4d=7E?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712111800.19674.danny@ricin.com> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:26:20 -0000 On Tuesday 11 December 2007 17:20:50 Halid Faith wrote: > I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same time with sed > command. How do I that ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" just use -e s/foo/bar/ as many times as needed. e.g. %cat afile foo1 foo3 foo2 foo7 %sed -e s/foo1/bar1/ -e s/foo2/bar2/ -e s/foo3/bar3/ -i .bak afile %cat afile.bak foo1 foo3 foo2 foo7 %cat afile bar1 bar3 bar2 foo7 Dan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:29:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C48216A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4629313C44B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:29:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [192.156.98.12] (ithi.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.12]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBBMTwZ2087289 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <475F0F65.7080803@schrodinger.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:29:57 -0800 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:29:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: CVSup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:29:59 -0000 Hi, I wonder if just having port-all is enough in cvsupfile as follow. If I just want to keep ports tree up to date, do I really need to have '"src-all"? *default host=cvsup9.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 *default delete use-rel-suffix compress # src-all ports-all tag=. thanks, Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:34:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996A516A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F66713C467 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so481726pyb for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:34:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ExG6FQZMrcfmXKNMGQ7ib3jlnbi5JQNvlZyJrCPezL4=; b=BRr27dQnYf4qm4HBuePrYkMYhS37GZVBl0nqEKDzmIOzoftCIwpzOsWe/frpNcCVMUmwWms/hSVVYuVZ5xwVbWuNjVKMz0RI8DSESwDkyyz7Yd83cqTKweEtyojV2sdoW26z0x9QboSL0TfTeIsLKzebtcOW5j+cnDrsVSsDEPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Z3+sjnwEDrQ7vLYkyg6XWtSsKYUa3LayTczxvi3/1oERD095Wy9ph+lpIZ1UuSVfm3oBoMnDzD/JmEZX3ljmjlr27H0ccfTQ5ulzfH2dvurranvkox8JP8Dyrw5cERUpYQTFFAtObvh471MLcswrj0RjGrhXTm4FGgD8xuD6uJc= Received: by 10.65.158.9 with SMTP id k9mr17931010qbo.1197412461118; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e18sm4200459qbe.2007.12.11.14.34.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:34:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475F106B.5060907@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:34:19 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Gao References: <475F0F65.7080803@schrodinger.com> In-Reply-To: <475F0F65.7080803@schrodinger.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:34:22 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Simon Gao wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder if just having port-all is enough in cvsupfile as follow. > If I just want to keep ports tree up to date, do I really need to > have '"src-all"? > > > *default host=cvsup9.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default > prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_4_11 *default delete > use-rel-suffix compress # src-all ports-all tag=. > Yes and oyu don't need tag=. also since that is the default value -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHXxBrzIOMjAek4JIRAhLPAJ4wmwl7Vzqv7F29Q9QOY+F3+wPiPACfbyDf fJ7e1hG8+cHRNpdy8Esg5Wc= =D014 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:37:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80D916A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DB213C455 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBBMbSAG007062; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:37:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBBMbSi2007061; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:37:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:37:28 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Aryeh Friedman Message-ID: <20071211223728.GA6983@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:54 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 03:43:14PM -0500, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > I have both vista and freebsd 8-current installed on the same drive > and also have allocated the rest of the disk to be a fat32 partition. > I know I should put any data I want to be passed between the two on > the fat32 partition. Now the question is how to lay it out so that: > > 1. The home dir for my account of FreeBSD = Vista account's root dir > 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is automatic) In FreeBSD you can just change the login(home) directory field in the /etc/passwd file for the account. Use vipw(8) to do the editing. But, you may not want to do that because there are some differences in a MS fat32 filesystem and the UNIX type filesystem that FreeBSD uses. Some ownership and permission and link information will be lost. Instead, just mount that fat32 file system as 'msdosfs' type on to some nice mnemonic mount point and work on it there. I use "/mydos" for mounting my fat32 partition in FreeBSD. Then, you can address files in it as /mydos/somedir/somefile. If you have a group of files you want to address as if they are in your home dir, than make a symlink to their directory. cd ln -s /mydos/goodstuff goodstuff Then any time you cd to ~/goodstuff you will really get /mydos/goodstuff Pick your own names. As for how to deal with it in MS-Vista, it will show up as another drive, say e: or maybe f: It will not be root as far as I can tell. But it might be possible to make it your desktop. I avoid MS mostly. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:39:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872C16A417 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484BE13C447 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBBMdA0e007091; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:39:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBBMd9xI007090; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:39:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:39:09 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <20071211223909.GB6983@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20071211211322.GB76488@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <475EFED2.3090502@gmail.com> <20071211213320.GA77610@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071211213320.GA77610@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: Re: looking for ideas: creating a data partition for a dual boot system X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:35 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:33:20PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 04:19:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > >> 2. Share the same Desktop folder (I think if #1 is solved this is > > >> automatic) > > > > > > Maybe, but the Desktop folder would be pretty much useless for > > > FreeBSD. Maybe there is an X window manager that could do something > > > usefull with it, but I doubt it. And the icons and stuff would > > > point to windows programs/drives anyway. > > > > Every x desktop manager calls it ~/Desktop > > What doe you mean by "desktop manager"? If you mean window manager, it > is definitely not true. For instance, fvwm2 uses ~/.fvwm/config. > > If you mean desktop environments, it is also not true. According to > their respective documentations, KDE uses ~/.kde be default, and Gnome > uses ~/.gconf, ~/.gnome2 and ~/.local/share. I think he means his MS-Win desktop - not one in FreeBSD, but some other posters seem to be drifting from that. ////jerry > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:42:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2714F16A496 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from fran.basement.net (fran.basement.net [66.139.76.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E636E13C53B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from faith.basement.net (adsl-065-013-140-007.sip.bna.bellsouth.net [65.13.140.7]) by fran.basement.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id lBBLWhLh009060 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:44 -0600 Received: from faith.basement.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by faith.basement.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBLWhhu003143 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: (from trix@localhost) by faith.basement.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBBLWgqi003142 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:42 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) X-Authentication-Warning: faith.basement.net: trix set sender to trix@basement.net using -f Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:32:42 -0600 From: Trix Farrar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211213239.GC1562@basement.net> Mail-Followup-To: Trix Farrar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on fran.basement.net Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:13 -0000 --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:20:50PM +0200, Halid Faith wrote: > I want to replace two or more strings in a file in the same time with sed= command. > How do I that ? You can specify the "-e command" parameter multiple times on a line: $ sed -e 's/foo/fee/g' -e 's/bar/baz/e' filename.txt --=20 John D. "Trix" Farrar __\\|//__ Basement.NET trix@basement.net (` o-o ') http://www.basement.net/ -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHXwH3Un6S0hqD4tsRAhAAAJ44smdTSu6t0emxlMF5NlGLijOL/ACfaCq9 2CneBuVulkCn3bqI6RSv5/A= =gz5P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:42:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 635BA16A41A for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14AA513C468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBBMgqxt003482 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:42:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id lBBMglRQ003481 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:42:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:42:42 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211224242.GA3321@wjv.com> References: <20071211221928.B1FEE16A4AC@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071211221928.B1FEE16A4AC@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:42:54 -0000 Putting quill to paper and scribbling furiously on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 22:19 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org missed achieving immortality when he said: > Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:40:46 +0200 > From: Giorgos Keramidas > Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config > On 2007-12-11 13:25, "Aryeh M. Friedman" > wrote: > > >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> Neat! Your local Sendmail submission service works then. You > >> should be able to see the message in the `clientmqueue' with: > >> mailq -Ac > >> Now, can you show us how your local rc system starts Sendmail, and > >> the active Sendmail processes you are using? It may be working > >> fine, but only queueing messages in `/var/spool/clientmqueue'. A > >> queue runner should also be started to periodically scan and handle > >> the clientmqueue messages. > I'm sorry, but this is the *third* time I am asking the same > thing, and it's getting a bit boring. Do you _really_ want help, > or just to have a bit of email fun for a while? > You still haven't shown us: > * How your local rc system starts Sendmail > * The active Sendmail processes you have now > > monster-freebsd# !sen > > sendmail -bd -q1m -v > > # very long pause > > 050 WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see > > cf/README: WHO AM I? > Your DNS is broken, and Sendmail cannot resolve `monster-freebsd'. > That's not a Sendmail issue, so I'm ignoring that for now. Doesn't need dns. /etc/hosts will be fine. BUT he also needs to put the proper name in /etc/rc.conf. Perhaps monster-freebsd.local would take care of that. The refusal to accept mail by the local IP 127.0.0.1 is because there is no FQDN - but you don't need to have it in DNS. > > monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac > > # very long pause > > /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) > > - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- > > - ------------Sender/Recipient----------- > > lBAEQDUM077228 9 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh > > (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) > > aryeh@gmail.com > No submission service running. You have to start at least > some process which listens on 127.0.0.1:25 for incoming email > requests and a queue runner for clientmqueue. I haven't seen > any "ps xauwww" output for the Sendmail processes you are > currently running, so no idea why you don't have a listener on > 127.0.0.1:25. Since the local server is refusing it, that's because of the no proper domain name 'monster-freebsd'. The submission service could be running, but since the system doesn't know it's own name it wont receive mail. He should also have 'localhost' in /etc/mail/local-host-names [or whatever it is refereneced by in the sendmail.cf, and then also add the monster-freebsd.local to that file too. If there is nothing in the local-host-names the system won't know the mail is destined to the local machine. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:50:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21AD416A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5583213C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 34566 invoked by uid 89); 11 Dec 2007 22:50:12 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 11 Dec 2007 22:50:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001201c83c48$28b1c530$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: References: <002801c83c11$cd434e70$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <475EC318.90104@dial.pipex.com><001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <475EFF89.9040406@web.de> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:49:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:50:12 -0000 I get an error; sed: illegal option -- d usage: sed script [-Ealn] [-i extension] [file ...] sed [-Ealn] [-i extension] [-e script] ... [-f script_file] ... [file ...] here's my script for i in $(cat /usr/path/test1); do sed -e s#old1#new1\ cut -d, -f 1 ${i}# -e s#old2#cut -d, -f 3 ${i}# file1 > file2 done cat test1 boby, e, 656a, allen, e, 987c, ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tino Engel" To: "Halid Faith" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:22 PM Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? > Halid Faith schrieb: > > Ok > > But I have another problem, > > I couldn't use any command interior of sed command. That's to say I have a > > script; > > > > yy="file5" > > for i in `cat file1`; > > do > > sed -e 's/old1/new1\ \'$i'/g' -e 's/old2/'cut -d, -f 1 ${yy}'/g' file2 > > > file3 > > done > > > > When I run the script, I get an error, due to using cut command > > > > > > > > > For using environment variables in sed, you have to use # instead of / > > VAR="TEXT" > > sed s#OLD#${VAR}#g file1 > > Will replace OLD by TEXT. Do not use quotations here... > Rg, Tino > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 22:52:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4619016A420 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (firewall.studsvik-analytic.com [155.212.59.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CC613C468 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pc142.studsvik-analytic.com [192.168.169.142]) by bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id lBBMi0Xl022518 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:44:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:03:03 -0500 From: Patrick Baldwin Organization: Studsvik Scandpower User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:52:27 -0000 Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, but: webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block OK, it seemed a good chance the USB drive was formatted with NTFS, so I tried: webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument Further reading on mount_ntfs suggested that even if I got it to work, it's not quite what I want: I want read & write access with compressed files supported. dmesg: umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) usbdevs -v Controller /dev/usb0: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb1: addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 powered port 2 powered Controller /dev/usb2: addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 port 1 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, External HDD(0x0702), Western Digital(0x1058), rev 1.04 port 2 powered port 3 powered port 4 powered Any help appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 23:46:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD1316A46B for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from fran.basement.net (fran.basement.net [66.139.76.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21D613C459 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:46:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from faith.basement.net (adsl-065-013-140-007.sip.bna.bellsouth.net [65.13.140.7]) by fran.basement.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id lBBNkcLh011723; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:46:39 -0600 Received: from faith.basement.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by faith.basement.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBBNkcTR003661; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:46:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: (from trix@localhost) by faith.basement.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBBNkcFp003660; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:46:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) X-Authentication-Warning: faith.basement.net: trix set sender to trix@basement.net using -f Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:46:38 -0600 From: Trix Farrar To: Halid Faith Message-ID: <20071211234633.GA3568@basement.net> Mail-Followup-To: Trix Farrar , Halid Faith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on fran.basement.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time with sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:46:48 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:21:22PM +0200, Halid Faith wrote: > Ok > But I have another problem, > I couldn't use any command interior of sed command. That's to say I have= a > script; >=20 > yy=3D"file5" > for i in `cat file1`; > do > sed -e 's/old1/new1\ \'$i'/g' -e 's/old2/'cut -d, -f 1 ${yy}'/g' file2= > > file3 > done >=20 > When I run the script, I get an error, due to using cut command >=20 yy=3Dfile5 for i in `cat file1` ; do=20 sed -e "s/old1/new1 $i/g" -e "s/old2/`cut -d, -f 1 ${yy}`/g" file2 > fi= le3 done I changed the single-quotes to double-quotes so that they can have their variables interpreted. The problem with this loop is that, at each iteration, file3 will be overwritten. --=20 John D. "Trix" Farrar __\\|//__ Basement.NET trix@basement.net (` o-o ') http://www.basement.net/ -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHXyFZUn6S0hqD4tsRAnaeAJ9jK5VhMkL2B5YMhXczsTL/PJwx9ACeJZJS mNb+nIKnki2lqSmqbBS0Q+c= =XWdW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 23:50:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5815F16A418 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:50:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD91113C442 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:50:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup79.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.79]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBBNlWvN029890 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:47:58 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBBNlSO7001750; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:47:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBBKpQmJ001520; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:51:26 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:51:26 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20071211205125.GA1455@kobe.laptop> References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> <475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com> <20071211184046.GA8175@kobe.laptop> <475EDCAE.90907@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475EDCAE.90907@gmail.com> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:50:29 -0000 On 2007-12-11 13:53, "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> You still haven't shown us: >> >> * How your local rc system starts Sendmail > > Until I can get it right from the command line I am not going to > include it in my /etc/rc thus currently there is none > >> * The active Sendmail processes you have now > > Except for the one I start (with the below command line) before > sending there is none running. Then you need to replicate what `/etc/rc.d/sendmail' does. You have the code to that script, you also have `/etc/defaults/rc.conf' as a guide of the defaults supported by FreeBSD. Happy hacking :) I'm not interested in rewriting `/etc/rc.d/sendmail' from scratch, so other than a few pointers like the following, I'm out of the thread: > here is the complete transcript of my last attempt to actually send > something: [...] > monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m Here you started a sendmail process which listens for connections to *all* interfaces. That's probably ok if you plan to accept incoming SMTP connections on _any_ interface, i.e. because you are running a Sendmail server accessible from outside. On my laptop this would be replaced by: /usr/sbin/sendmail -L smtpd -bd -q30m \ -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost Note the use of the -O flag to make sure Sendmail is only listening on the localhost:25 port for mail submission requests. Then you have to start a *second* Sendmail instance, to flush the local `clientmqueue' and forward the messages you see as `Deferred' when you run the `mailq -Ac' command: > monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac > /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) > - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- > - ------------Sender/Recipient----------- > lBAEQDUM077228 9 Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh > (Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1]) > aryeh@gmail.com Now you have to run a second Sendmail instance, i.e. with: /usr/sbin/sendmail -L mailq -Ac -q10m NOTE: The `smtpd' and `mailq' arguments to the -L options are not the standard names FreeBSD assigns to these processes. They are just the ones I use on my laptop. Since you are using a custom, local sendmail startup script, that's about the best I can write to get you kickstarted. For more help with the way Sendmail operates, you can always refer to the ``Sendmail(TM) Installation and Operation Guide''. A copy of the guide is conveniently installed by the FreeBSD installation process at: /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/* Good luck with the startup scripts. I don't really understand why you insist on rewriting something which works(TM), is featureful and easy to extend, like the rc.d scripts, but that's besides the point :-) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 11 23:55:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A967E16A419 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RC=4d751832@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8592013C465 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:55:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RC=4d751832@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10CA6D05B0 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:55:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:55:11 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071211235511.64670dc3@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <475F106B.5060907@gmail.com> References: <475F0F65.7080803@schrodinger.com> <475F106B.5060907@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: CVSup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:55:16 -0000 On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:34:19 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Simon Gao wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I wonder if just having port-all is enough in cvsupfile as follow. > > If I just want to keep ports tree up to date, do I really need to > > have '"src-all"? > > ... > Yes and oyu don't need tag=. also since that is the default value And that's yes to: "port-all is enough", not yes to "do I really need to have src-all?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 00:14:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB47016A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C18C113C455 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:14:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 71001 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 00:14:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=Mv8LWzo8gs8xCLHnbR/e3oXskonrFPb8xaCKqr9ApdOmyPblGHrh/o13FaiAvu9EzwOH8Eqqj7VbRSubMqdsZ+iBaCtWUsfCbTGrYsk7IoQBaIpwnHKdPwDKpUR+EEeGwFE0iEpqYkWMtb4/zs6+X+hE40AdGkCjRWSPUCm+hkI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 00:14:44 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: D5_ecbUVM1ncXqTDDsi7RoxRle2L4w12cPTkFnE0nC3CuKv7UXS_UPexkDclx0HlbvA22vR2gjwpkABVWnIYwUkKhKdsPnnba6rElUtRHUdkeJX2EA-- In-Reply-To: <20071211192423.GB1301@wjv.com> References: <20071211182359.DAED116A50B@hub.freebsd.org> <20071211192423.GB1301@wjv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3a4229fadfe5c1490d30ea350c7d4401@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:16:06 -0800 To: bv@wjv.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:14:45 -0000 On Dec 11, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Bill Vermillion wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 18:23 , while impersonating an expert on > the internet, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org sent this to > stdout: > >> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:09:11 -0600 >> From: Derek Ragona >> Subject: Re: named mystery >> To: jekillen , User Questions > >> > >> At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote: >>> Hello: > >>> I have two name servers for four domains. >>> The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 >>> and the secondary is running v 6.2. >>> I have an MX record for each of the four registered >>> domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host >>> mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record >>> database is for one of the sites. When I try to send >>> an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages >>> bounce for dns lookup failure. >>> The name that is being looked up is >>> .... > >>> Some how the two names are being mashed together and then >>> looked up, causing the resolution failure. > > As the other respondent noted, that was because of the missing > period. > > I've found that 'nslint' in the /usr/ports/dns hierarchy > is a nice little program that will tell you all your errors. > I actually run it's output through a 'filter' to get rid of > extranous things such as 'in use by xxxx.xxx' as i have > several sites that respond to the same IP. > >>> dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to >>> my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they >>> have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this. > >>> There was a period missing after the MX host name record. >>> I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name >>> server just to insure that named got the change and checked the >>> secondary record and it has the change > > You don't have to reboot Unix systems for almost all things which > don't require a kernel change. named.restart will do the job. Happy day.... This is the first time I've seen this command. All the stuff I have uses rndc reload etc. Right now rndc isn't working (access denied, if it does that for me, I don't think I have anything to worry about) and I do not want to fool with it at the moment. Maybe sometime when I've won the lottery and am bored to death with chasing women. So my quick (impatient) approach was just to reboot. Any how dig turns up the right stuff now, accept that I was still getting a reject message from my ISP's server for lookup failure; with no explanation. So I did postmaster@ISP.net and related my sad tail. I think they may be caching responses and rejecting based on a cached response. I will have to see. Jeff K > >>> I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary >>> name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that >>> it is actually running at the time, it was and is. >>> but the bak file on the secondary server has >>> >>> IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. >>> $ORIGIN targetDomain.tld. >>> >>> >>> when the record on primary server is >>> >>> @ IN MX 10 host.domain.tld. >>> >>> @ in this context should reference the domain this >>> file is for. >>> If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you >>> make any suggestions or recommendations? >>> thank you in advance >>> Jeff K > >> Jeff, > >> I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers. The primary >> zone >> files will have the: >> @ >> while the secondary zone files will not have these. > >> In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: ; >> MX Record @ IN MX 10 mail.mydomain.com. >> >> Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show >> it is a fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in >> this zone file. >> >> On the secondary server the zone files has: MX 10 >> mail.mydomain.com. >> >> In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record. If you >> have multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use >> this number to designate the order they should get mail, smaller >> numbers are primary to get email. > >> When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be >> sure to change the serial number in that zone file. Also I >> usually stop and start named on the primary. I also remove the >> backup files on the secondary servers and stop and start named >> on those too to see that the new files are transferred and thus >> being used. > > I have about 250 zones in my DNS and I've done something which > makes sure that I always have the correct date, but all the > domains will show the same date. > > I've extracted much of what you put in a zone file and put > it in a file called named.soa . And in each file > is used the $INCLUDE directive [quite handy] that > is $INCLUDE named.soa > > Then I just update the serial number in the one file. It saves > a lot of time, particualary yesterday when one client of > a support house that uses our servers decided he needed > all the standard variants .com, .net, .biz, .mobi, .info, .org, > and .tv - plus 5 variants on his domain. > > I'd just dupe the zone file and make global changes in 'vi' > and only have to update the serial number in the named.soa > just one time. > > Bill > -- > Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 01:29:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC99B16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.229.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6EE513C46E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 37636 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 01:02:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=l2f8AVjU4CL5kbXEkGLB6mTzn8Wf2Y9UX1sVRKxPVZ2OerUZKwTBMH//lf3JM5/D5sOsOhhPaiIB3CKsTGQWgnj3fYdpC6J2tSkL01ZuokRjp+0PBnfuSZsyNvz9UHh8+nyXHdnDoKILgifILjBEXHzSV9+hSZPqOgDxdMGe6c8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp109.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 01:02:52 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: x0axjC0VM1mhn20tbpBmIWmJp_8Cgi_JIM.OXxugYAh7iNh3VH0DjDat6oMS7TlcRn7LHxhhI0552ueLoPF2WnjXqQZnzfK9KfLZLubl2VXHL1dNQA-- In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20071211055812.024efda0@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <1049f53fe18e8533721516ed7dc217ed@prodigy.net> <6.0.0.22.2.20071211055812.024efda0@mail.computinginnovations.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <270b3a70a0dd0477353e5bf978ba6a34@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: jekillen Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:04:14 -0800 To: Derek Ragona X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: named mystery X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:29:34 -0000 On Dec 11, 2007, at 4:09 AM, Derek Ragona wrote: > At 12:57 AM 12/10/2007, jekillen wrote: >> Hello: >> I have two name servers for four domains. >> The primary name server is running FreeBSD v 6.0 >> and the secondary is running v 6.2. >> I have an MX record for each of the four registered >> domains. I have set up Postfix to act as a smart host >> mail hub (the MX host). One of the named record >> database is for one of the sites. When I try to send >> an E-mail from this message to list e-mail address. The messages >> bounce for dns lookup failure. >> The name that is being looked up is >> =A0.... >> >> Some how the two names are being mashed together and then >> looked up, causing the resolution failure. >> >> dig targetDomainName.com -t MX produces the record according to >> my ISP's name servers, which is the mashed version. Possibly they >> have it wrong? Someone is screwing up the lookup for this. >> >> There was a period missing after the MX host name record. >> I added that and rebooted the machine with the primary name >> server just to insure that named got the change and checked the >> secondary record and it has the change >> >> I did dig @targerDomainName.com -t MX and got my secondary >> name server responding. I checked the primary server to see that >> it is actually running at the time, it was and is. >> but the bak file on the secondary server has >> >> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0IN=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0MX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A010=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0host.domain.t= ld. >> $ORIGIN targetDomain.tld. >> >> >> when the record on primary server is >> >> @=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0IN=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0MX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A010=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0host.domain.tld.= >> >> @ in this context should reference the domain this >> file is for. >> If anyone is a wiz at dns record and problems can you >> make any suggestions or recommendations? >> thank you in advance >> Jeff K > > Jeff, > > I just checked how my DNS files look on two 6.2 servers.=A0 The = primary=20 > zone files will have the: > @ > while the secondary zone files will not have these. > > In my zone files the MX appears on the primary as a the lines: > ; MX Record > @=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 IN MX=A0=A0 10=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0= mail.mydomain.com. > > Note the last period after the domain suffix is there to show it is a=20= > fully qualified name, with that name defined earlier in this zone=20 > file. > > On the secondary server the zone files has: > =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 = MX=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 10 mail.mydomain.com. > > In both files the 10 is the weight for the MX record.=A0 If you have=20= > multiple servers you want to accept email, you would use this number=20= > to designate the order they should get mail, smaller numbers are=20 > primary to get email. > > When you make a change on the primary DNS server zone file be sure to=20= > change the serial number in that zone file.=A0 Also I usually stop and=20= > start named on the primary.=A0 I also remove the backup files on the=20= > secondary servers and stop and start named on those too to see that=20 > the new files are transferred and thus being used. > Yes, I did increment the serial number and put in the final dot. I am=20 still getting test messages rejected for name service lookup=20 failure--with no explanation. I contacted the isp about it. It seems as though the rejection was base=20= on a cached response. Thanks for the info; Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 02:06:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6932516A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B03EB13C4E3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 29716 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 02:06:10 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 12 Dec 2007 02:06:09 -0000 Message-ID: <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:06:01 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Zbyslaw , FreeBSD Questions References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> <20071211084309.A16234@wonkity.com> <475EB887.6070902@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:06:13 -0000 Hi, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > Assuming I've understood your initial post correctly, then I do the > same, redirecting some dozen ad sites to a local web server. With a this is how I started. Then friends did the same. We exchanged the files. We added hosts files from the Internet. > dozen or so aliases I've never noticed any difference in performance, > but I suspect you have rather more than that :-) I could never quite be I also do not notice a difference. Especially news sites with all the ads are even faster as there is no waiting for the ads. > I'm pretty sure you could also do the same with a local DNS server, if This is what I am thinking of since some time but I never did. It would have the additional advantage of faster name resolution. Having a DNS on every machine seems like a real overkill to me. > There's no clean solutions to getting different lookups per-user that I The clen solution is hosts. > Unclean solutions might include something like making the hosts file This is something I would like to avoid. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 03:18:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C0116A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from smarthost2.sentex.ca (smarthost2.sentex.ca [205.211.164.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9471F13C4F2 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:18:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from BLUELAPIS.sentex.ca (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by smarthost2.sentex.ca (8.14.1/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBC2jlpa087969; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:45:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) From: Mike Tancsa To: Wojciech Puchar Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20071211120127.F1536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20071211120127.F1536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why nfs is so slow? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 03:18:40 -0000 On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:02:07 +0100 (CET), in sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: >i'm getting about 6MB/s with NFS (100Mbit cross-connect ethernet), while= =20 >over 9.5 by FTP. > >nfs is set to work over TCP. What mount options are you using ? =20 I use something like the following 172.18.23.34:/backup/backup2 /offsite-backup nfs rw,-r=3D32768,-w=3D32768,tcp,noauto=20 in fstab ---Mike > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, Sentex communications http://www.sentex.net Providing Internet Access since 1994 mike@sentex.net, (http://www.tancsa.com) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 05:36:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D157716A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D8313C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:36:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so279198pyb.3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PtE84uAPqTkk26trN4rVkrTLn6mOd0To9PX3DaNkol8=; b=a7/STpu1w8KHMHbtaYj7pZr9K2nmnFGDShp/YPtevZ5sdlu55f0aaXo4ByGBdYAegCSCbsTqVMlPQu4udgravu18WXLyyrPfZ32hB9kUAHjln7LbZY2eiN5h2nzRjxy9v9am0p+dPdEpmwKhpweqGrFvCuktJ42H1x1J0eD/mjY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R8pmbhi3i0bCyAEYx7Jxx//A2lginbSNPmX3lsOKt4RPcKwHof3KhdgRtMr2RdB++mtJhxAyIjyFnL4T9IP5aL6XM4x07sj+5xXVjefMD6acEIe1ifEPiS41hyb9jPfdjJ/jtQa4Z8NA3YBvBhHoUI12i+4STdU6uXZEYr5Uzbg= Received: by 10.65.212.3 with SMTP id o3mr611285qbq.57.1197437762008; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e16sm2188841qbe.2007.12.11.21.35.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:36:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475F7332.2020501@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:35:46 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: results of ports re-engineering survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:36:04 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *PLEASE ONLY REPLY TO ME OR -PORTS@* A few disclaimers: Neither I or anyone else is asking for FreeBSD to incorparate any modifications to the current base system and/or ports collection. If and when any code is developed from this process it will be committed using normal commit and review processes. The following summary of results is based on my eyeballing of answers and should not be interpreted as being any sort of mathematically and/or scientifically valid in any manner. Number of responses: roughly 30 Summary of results: 1. Most respondents stated that both the underlaying OS and the ports collection are equally important. When a preference was shown it was for the underlaying OS in most cases. 2. On average people tend to interact with the port system once or twice a week 3. The single best aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when installing new ports 4. The single worst aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when updating or deleting existing ports 5. Most respondents would not change there answers tothe survey if they where new to FreeBSD 6. Almost all respondents would use a new system if it fixed their personal worst aspect of the current system 7. About 50% of respondents would use a new system if it broke the best aspect of the ports system but fixed the worst aspect 8. Length of FreeBSD usage: rough avr. of 8 years with roughly 3 year std. dev. 9. Prefered install method: ports 10. Usage roughly evenly spread among desktop, development and servers 11. Subsystem ratings (rough avr's): UI: 6 Constancy: 9 Dependancy tracking: 7 Record keeping: 9 Granularity: 9 12. Most users are either sysadmins and/or developers Orginial Survey: As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions c. Accuracy in dependant port installations d. Internal record keeping e. Granularity's of the port management system 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHX3MyzIOMjAek4JIRAqqjAJ9YlNJW9Uqa21yK+sm1IST+KmO7QACfeum+ 9rhuEkdKX6BKkFZr6WGmbDU= =jhg0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 05:37:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6CB16A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4209513C442 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so280072pyb.3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:37:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PtE84uAPqTkk26trN4rVkrTLn6mOd0To9PX3DaNkol8=; b=g9HgrLRc5PQIlZR/DNfmM460/gFBOcQ+Fyj6UmCTEyvapk+10UMeyKrXrtbycxSh2GaxGpp9jKvL/P4TuQKtOiWISNdjwxpHIMPrw2RyLP9QUWFpP05rvLf4H+jJOKZQFH6G1lMImaG9U+52vnmo1/kQ8gmV/WNLcCbVtjHePvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aog43f6vR2u6pvpoA/nrRqDKSDnU5p9mCEO7g0FRdh014MbCkboXxYJMYhK8LW55F7tyns4X+KwihxQTYYnN44Vv+qCxl/hdQzzL+PzVIi0In/KOkSxrgLssQT8PYu+4nSRPkAFWQyUiRmpqoHR3z+nZ5qfu8+C0rlBNpghE1UE= Received: by 10.64.193.2 with SMTP id q2mr628722qbf.51.1197437842019; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e15sm6096863qba.2007.12.11.21.37.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:37:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <475F7390.9090509@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:37:20 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: results of ports re-engineering survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:37:23 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *PLEASE ONLY REPLY TO ME OR -PORTS@* A few disclaimers: Neither I or anyone else is asking for FreeBSD to incorparate any modifications to the current base system and/or ports collection. If and when any code is developed from this process it will be committed using normal commit and review processes. The following summary of results is based on my eyeballing of answers and should not be interpreted as being any sort of mathematically and/or scientifically valid in any manner. Number of responses: roughly 30 Summary of results: 1. Most respondents stated that both the underlaying OS and the ports collection are equally important. When a preference was shown it was for the underlaying OS in most cases. 2. On average people tend to interact with the port system once or twice a week 3. The single best aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when installing new ports 4. The single worst aspect of the ports system according to respondents is dependency tracking when updating or deleting existing ports 5. Most respondents would not change there answers tothe survey if they where new to FreeBSD 6. Almost all respondents would use a new system if it fixed their personal worst aspect of the current system 7. About 50% of respondents would use a new system if it broke the best aspect of the ports system but fixed the worst aspect 8. Length of FreeBSD usage: rough avr. of 8 years with roughly 3 year std. dev. 9. Prefered install method: ports 10. Usage roughly evenly spread among desktop, development and servers 11. Subsystem ratings (rough avr's): UI: 6 Constancy: 9 Dependancy tracking: 7 Record keeping: 9 Granularity: 9 12. Most users are either sysadmins and/or developers Orginial Survey: As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the following broad questions for people: 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is the most common interaction you have with it? 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred installation method for 3rd party software? 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the importance of the following aspects of the ports system? a. User Interface b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions c. Accuracy in dependant port installations d. Internal record keeping e. Granularity's of the port management system 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHX3MyzIOMjAek4JIRAqqjAJ9YlNJW9Uqa21yK+sm1IST+KmO7QACfeum+ 9rhuEkdKX6BKkFZr6WGmbDU= =jhg0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 05:27:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B6316A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EBF513C458 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id QAA25181; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:26:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:26:16 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto In-Reply-To: <20071211221929.059AD16A4CA@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:50:35 +0000 Cc: Jonathan Horne , Eric Crist , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Trix Farrar Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:27:36 -0000 Re-copying the various contributors .. On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:00:56 -0200 "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" wrote: > 2007/12/11, Jonathan Horne freebsd@dfwlp.com: > > > out of curiosity, are you pinging from the 4-interfaced-connected BSD > > box, or some other workstation that is trying to use the BSD box as its > > gateway? > > > >From a workstation that is trying to use BSD box as its gateway and have the > ip of the BSD box as it's default gateway in network settings. My BSD box > can ping to everywhere. > > 2007/12/11, Erik Norgaard > > > Could you post your configuration, rc.conf, just the entries related to > > network interfaces and routing? > > > > The BSD box should automatically route any packets between imidiately > > connected networks without adding any static routes. Do you have any > > firewalling enabled? > > > > Cheers, Erik > > > I'm not in my work anymore but I'll try to remember it as it is: > > defaultroute="192.168.1.80" Should be 'defaultrouter', but then it's a route to an apparent local router, whereas your em0 appears to be your public internet connection? > hostname="tiger.administrativo.unedmacae.cefetcampos.br" > gateway_enable="YES" > ifconfig_em0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.227" Hopefully you've just mis-remembered that netmask: it's non-contiguous. .224 perhaps? > ifconfig_xl0="inet 192.168.1.244 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl1="inet 192.168.2.90 netmask 255.255.255.0" > ifconfig_xl2="inet 10.10.0.50 netmask 255.255.0.0" > pf_enable="YES" > pf_rules="/etc/pf.conf" > pf_flags="" > pflog_enable="YES" > pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog" > pflog_flags="" Let's assume you've disabled your firewall to take that out of the equation till you get the routing happening as desired .. > The rest is just is all the default from the installation. > > 2007/12/11, Eric Crist > > > Add > > > > gateway_enable="YES" to /etc/rc.conf. > > > > Make sure your other systems use the freebsd box in question as their > > default route. I suspect this may be (one of?) your problem(s); more below. > > make sure your firewall, if you have one, is passing the traffic > > between the two networks. > > > > Use pf or some other means to nat outbound traffic. > > > > HTH Let's also assume you're not (on this box) trying to NAT one or more of these multiple private networks to public IP address(es) .. > I already have this line in my rc.conf. > > 2007/12/11, Trix Farrar : > > > It sounds like your BSD server is configured correctly. You may, > > however, need to tell the other devices on your different networks how > > to find their way. > > > > Given that you have networks A, B and C that are each connected to > > each other by your BSD server, F, the hosts on network A have to know > > how to find network B and network C. If the three networks already > > have routers the hosts use as a default gateway, then those routers > > will need to have routes added to find your other networks; the > > network A router needs to have routes to networks B and C that point > > to your BSD server and so on. > > > How I do that? I think this is at the core or your issue. Let's assume that a box on xl1, say 192.168.2.100, wants to talk with a box on xl2, say 10.10.0.100 192.168.2.100 needs either your box (192.168.2.90) as its default route, or it needs to have added a specific route for 10.10 via your box. Similarly, 10.10.0.100 needs either your box (10.10.0.50) as its default route, or it needs to have added a specific route for 192.168.2 via you. Unless both of these conditions are true, packets will not get (or get back) to where they're supposed to go, even if your box setup is all ok. > Thankz guyz for your attention with me! I'm going to have nightmares with > this trouble. Sounds like you need a very good diagram of your boxes and networks and interfaces so you can easily trace all the paths (and thus the necessary routes) between the various subnets you're wanting to interconnect. You also need to look carefully at which boxes/nets have routes to the internet, via wherever (and at what point their addresses are NAT'd to and from which public addresses), so you can hope to resolve the vast potential for routing loops and/or blackholed connections that such a setup offers :) Later on, your firewall may be able to help with this by at least preventing disallowed connections, but the above needs to work first. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 06:16:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD5D16A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B505913C461 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:16:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBC6G8HF074831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <475F7CDA.60409@monkeybrains.net> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475B63D7.9010907@monkeybrains.net> <475B7D0B.9030201@monkeybrains.net> In-Reply-To: <475B7D0B.9030201@monkeybrains.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:16:09 -0000 Rudy wrote: > > After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better > phrase my question: > how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? > > Rudy > >> here is the output of /dev/sndstat >> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) >> Installed devices: >> pcm0: at memory >> 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v >> channels duplex default) >> pcm1: at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) >> mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz > Anyone know how do do this, or should I try freebsd-multimedia or something like that? ... on other OS'es I've seen ways to define a default microphone when a machine has two microphones. Can't seem to figure that out in BSD (I can assign a default pcm device, but my pcm1 doesn't have output... Help still requested, Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 07:18:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE3A16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49B113C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id E7BE314226F; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:18:13 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15EB142246; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:18:08 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Erich Dollansky , Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:18:15 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007 04:06:01 Erich Dollansky wrote: > > There's no clean solutions to getting different lookups per-user that > > I > > The clen solution is hosts. But hosts is operating system-wide. Both ipfw and pf support tables, which is what you want, large sets or unrelated (addresses|networks). Both of them support UID matching as a target (caution: this feature is not mpsafe on FreeBSD-6). Out of curiosity, how big your hosts file is? Can you share it with the rest of us? Perhaps upload it somewhere, so we can try your approach? Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 07:41:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7156216A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zoup@zoup.org) Received: from elimiz.elimizonline.net (52.19.354a.static.theplanet.com [74.53.25.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3865A13C4D3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zoup@zoup.org) Received: from [91.184.76.207] (helo=Desktop.DES) by elimiz.elimizonline.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2L42-0001eD-JG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:27:27 +0400 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:47:31 +0330 From: Armin ranjbar To: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20071212084731.90ac80ad.zoup@zoup.org> Organization: Zoup.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.3.0beta5 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elimiz.elimizonline.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zoup.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 X-Spam-Score: -65 X-Spam-Bar: ------ X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:57:11 +0330 Resent-From: Armin ranjbar Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Message-Id: <20071212095711.b1c86d06.zoup@zoup.org> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - elimiz.elimizonline.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zoup.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Subject: Broadcom BCM5906M X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:41:22 -0000 Dear all , anyone get broadcom 5906M ethernet device working under freebsd ? its appear its not supported under if_bge.c . any idea how we can get it working ? -- He was part of my dream, of course -- but then I was part of his dream too. -- Lewis Carroll _______________________________________________ freebsd-drivers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-drivers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-drivers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 07:50:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955DD16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from mail-in07.adhost.com (mail-in07.adhost.com [216.211.128.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DAD13C45D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from ad-exh01.adhost.lan (unknown [216.211.143.69]) by mail-in07.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4D61B5053; Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:50:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mksmith@adhost.com) Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([10.142.3.42]) by ad-exh01.adhost.lan with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:50:29 -0800 Message-Id: <6A07327E-83AE-4CCA-B85A-C2F7C3AD5E3F@adhost.com> From: Michael Smith To: Mike Tancsa In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:50:29 -0800 References: <20071211120127.F1536@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2007 07:50:29.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA8EBF40:01C83C93] X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: SMEX-7.5.0.1243-5.0.1023-15598.002 X-TM-AS-Result: No--7.708400-5.000000-31 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No X-TM-AS-User-Blocked-Sender: No Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why nfs is so slow? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:50:31 -0000 On Dec 11, 2007, at 6:45 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:02:07 +0100 (CET), in > sentex.lists.freebsd.questions you wrote: > >> i'm getting about 6MB/s with NFS (100Mbit cross-connect ethernet), >> while >> over 9.5 by FTP. >> >> nfs is set to work over TCP. > > What mount options are you using ? > > I use something like the following > > 172.18.23.34:/backup/backup2 /offsite-backup nfs > rw,-r=32768,-w=32768,tcp,noauto > > in fstab > > ---Mike > We've had good luck with the following options: rw,tcp,intr,noatime,nfsv3,-w=65536,-r=65536 along with the following in /etc/sysctl.conf net.inet.ip.fastforwarding=1 net.inet.ip.intr_queue_maxlen=5000 kern.ipc.maxsockbuf=8388608 net.inet.tcp.sendspace=3217968 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=3217968 And, finally, turning on polling on the interface on our disk array. We are getting a solid 300 Mb/sec on a GigE link. Regards, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 08:05:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1FB016A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7E4513C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 14126 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 08:05:36 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 12 Dec 2007 08:05:33 -0000 Message-ID: <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:05:28 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:05:39 -0000 Hi, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: > On Wednesday 12 December 2007 04:06:01 Erich Dollansky wrote: >>> There's no clean solutions to getting different lookups per-user that > > Both ipfw and pf support tables, which is what you I would like to avoid having a fire wall running on each machine. > Out of curiosity, how big your hosts file is? It is above 600KB since I included also the information I found on sites like this: http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm Since I joined my private file with this one http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.txt it grew to the mentioned 600KB from below 10KB. If you still see unwanted content, just add a line and it will be gone during your next visit. The beauty is, Internet feels still faster then before. It has one advantage over all those ad removal tools. It filters what I do not like. It has nothing to do with censorship, it just gets rid of all the crap hanging around on every corner of a web page trying to sell you anti virus software or larger dicks. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 08:51:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BA016A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:51:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E89313C442 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:51:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 96711 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2007 08:51:12 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 08:51:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000d01c83c9c$1cb444c0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: References: <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <20071211234633.GA3568@basement.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:50:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time withsed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:51:06 -0000 I tried it, but I get an error; cut: boby, e, 656a, No such file or directory cut: allen, e, 987c, No such file or directory ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 09:15:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4CAB16A421 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F30FC13C465 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 4141 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2007 09:15:26 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 09:15:25 -0000 Message-ID: <003601c83c9f$7f229aa0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: References: <001001c83c33$669b46b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <20071211234633.GA3568@basement.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:15:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Subject: Re: How to replace two strings in a file in the same time withsed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:15:19 -0000 I tried it, but I get an error; cut: boby, e, 656a, No such file or directory cut: boby, e, 656a, No such file or directory cut: allen, e, 987c, No such file or directory cut: allen, e, 987c, No such file or directory ... here's my script for i in `cat file1` ; do sed -e "s/old1/new1 `cut -d, -f 1 ${file1}/g" -e "s/old2/`cut -d, -f 3 ${file1}`/g" file2 > file3 done when I run myscript I get an error as above. -d option of cut command could not run. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 09:16:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00C016A41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B02B13C4EA for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 8769E1422C3; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:16:21 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL, BAYES_00, BODY_ENHANCEMENT autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15FD7142242; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:16:15 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Erich Dollansky Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:18:52 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121118.53090.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:16:22 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007 10:05:28 Erich Dollansky wrote: > The beauty is, Internet feels still faster then before. > > It has one advantage over all those ad removal tools. It filters what I > do not like. It has nothing to do with censorship, it just gets rid of > all the crap hanging around on every corner of a web page trying to sell > you anti virus software or larger dicks. I'll give it a try. It may be helpful for my lossy-56Kbps-modem internet-experience at home! Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 10:06:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14B16A420 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:06:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: from mail09.ifxnetworks.com (mail09.ifxnetworks.com [190.61.128.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C3413C4D5 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:06:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmw@unete.cl) Received: (qmail 1616 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 10:06:32 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on mail09.ifxnetworks.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=7.0 tests=RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.3 Received: from unknown (HELO quake) (dmw@unete.cl@[200.73.29.35]) (envelope-sender ) by mail09.ifxnetworks.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 12 Dec 2007 10:06:31 -0000 From: Daniel Molina Wegener Organization: DMW To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:06:13 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> Subject: RELENG_7 and diablo-jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dmw@unete.cl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:06:33 -0000 Hello, =C2=BFIs there any problem if I run diablo-jdk-1.5_07 under RELENG_7? I mean, =C2=BFis the diablo-jdk binary compatible with RELENG_7? Thanks in advance... =2D-=20 .O. | Daniel Molina Wegener | C/C++ Developer ..O | dmw [at] unete [dot] cl | FOSS Coding Adict OOO | FreeBSD & Linux User | Standards Rocks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 10:18:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73A9E16A421 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369DF13C43E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so163542rvb.43 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:18:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SJmHegUTdG7GbPp8wk30+dwv8rzzjZbWKUMq/OZFbdk=; b=CfbXh/qCn9xBt4yRqLS3V0TbCA4fLIPgoH/pBj7YWQH+bp51Zq2hLLG+ASgtiXjOkLt0TQboi9zBrZWBQVhNt3oXxwcqdjckh+qyQpjkG5ATlfwU/qFrwX6M7OslZ7grRxejnUNFvIVs28tqGcBBNZIMY41Q7AGto5Soyl8xO1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WZJ6tWoOHWwemyPfzifqDbecSj7EKIdJ38adEUw3qRpJqjM7FiIZvY/Y5Sm4/jO32SLGsPkAeRpUGY25GHW4xNf5V+Te/FSJsph0ojWvTaICXkBhEBGoOTe7uOOiudld1tjdibdBH5L6/G9hHV2qwfGFBSY1o+IDYNIozSxz8GE= Received: by 10.140.148.3 with SMTP id v3mr214197rvd.223.1197454730825; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:18:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.37.3 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 02:18:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712120218h142369e0l1fd9b05f351a12e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:18:50 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: "Ian Smith" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071211221929.059AD16A4CA@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:18:51 -0000 2007/12/12, Ian Smith : > > Should be 'defaultrouter', but then it's a route to an apparent local > router, whereas your em0 appears to be your public internet connection? Yes, it's default router, like I said I was not in my work then I wrote by myself this lines, like I didn't touch the defaultrouter line since the install I guess it's correct, my fault. Yes, em0 is my public connection, but it's not connected to the external network yet, that's why my default router is 192.168.1.80 (that is my current gateway, connected with the external world, and who I want to be replaced by this BSD box) Hopefully you've just mis-remembered that netmask: it's non-contiguous. > .224 perhaps? My fault again. I messed up /27 with .224. I think this is at the core or your issue. Let's assume that a box on > xl1, say 192.168.2.100, wants to talk with a box on xl2, say 10.10.0.100 > > 192.168.2.100 needs either your box (192.168.2.90) as its default route, > or it needs to have added a specific route for 10.10 via your box. > > Similarly, 10.10.0.100 needs either your box (10.10.0.50) as its default > route, or it needs to have added a specific route for 192.168.2 via you. > > Unless both of these conditions are true, packets will not get (or get > back) to where they're supposed to go, even if your box setup is all ok. The The machines is 192.168.1 aren't using my BSD box like it's default gateway it, so it may be the problem? But, like I've said, this is the second time I try to put the things to work, the first time I've set the 192.168.1 machines to use my bsd as default gatway and didn't work also. But I gonna change it to test again. My machines in 192.168.2 are all using 192.168.2.90 as it gateway already. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 11:40:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D5A16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net (galaxy.systems.pipex.net [62.241.162.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B86013C47E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891D3E000262; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:40:07 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475FC897.8000502@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:40:07 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:40:09 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a > FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, > but: > > webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block > > OK, it seemed a good chance the USB drive was formatted with NTFS, so > I tried: > > webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > > Further reading on mount_ntfs suggested that even if I got it to > work, it's not quite what I want: I want read & write access > with compressed files supported. If it doesn't mount as NTFS then FAT32 seems like a distinct possibility. Try file -s /dev/da0s1 and see what it says e.g. $ file -s /dev/ad10s6 /dev/ad10s6: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x58, OEM-ID "MSWIN4.1", sectors/cluster 32, reserved sectors 34, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 63, sectors 42299082 (volumes > 32 MB) , FAT (32 bit), sectors/FAT 10323, reserved3 0x800000, serial number 0x43937937, label: " SAMSUNG" If it is NTFS (or you reformat it to be) then maybe ntfs-3g is what you want (should be in ports) but I've never used it. If all else fails, can you connect to a a Windows machine and see what it thinks it is? I fail to remember how you figure out file system type in Windows but right-click-properties on the disk might do it. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 11:45:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB21616A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CC313C459 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:45:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1882074401F for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:13:49 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 87glivWI0LoZ for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:13:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39DB74401E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:13:48 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:13:48 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:45:28 -0000 I recently noticed that FreeBSD doesn't prevent tray opening (via a button on CD/DVD drive) even if I mount a CD with ISO 9660 filesystem on it. This at least happens with ATAPI CD drive (acd driver/device). Maybe my memory is failing me but I seem to remember times when mounting a CD locked a tray. Shouldn't this be a more reasonable behavior ? Also, I think that it would be good if tray got locked on opening a cd/acd device (e.g. dd if=/dev/acd0). BTW, my system is 6.2. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 11:48:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66E7216A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from gaia.nimnet.asn.au (nimbin.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.45.143]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C229513C455 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (smithi@localhost) by gaia.nimnet.asn.au (8.8.8/8.8.8R1.5) with SMTP id WAA05249; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:48:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:48:32 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712120218h142369e0l1fd9b05f351a12e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:48:42 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > 2007/12/12, Ian Smith : > > Should be 'defaultrouter', but then it's a route to an apparent local > > router, whereas your em0 appears to be your public internet connection? > Yes, it's default router, like I said I was not in my work then I wrote by > myself this lines, like I didn't touch the defaultrouter line since the > install I guess it's correct, my fault. Yes, em0 is my public connection, > but it's not connected to the external network yet, that's why my default > router is 192.168.1.80 (that is my current gateway, connected with the > external world, and who I want to be replaced by this BSD box) Ok. Will this box be connecting some/all of these subnets to the world? > > I think this is at the core or your issue. Let's assume that a box on > > xl1, say 192.168.2.100, wants to talk with a box on xl2, say 10.10.0.100 > > > > 192.168.2.100 needs either your box (192.168.2.90) as its default route, > > or it needs to have added a specific route for 10.10 via your box. > > > > Similarly, 10.10.0.100 needs either your box (10.10.0.50) as its default > > route, or it needs to have added a specific route for 192.168.2 via you. > > > > Unless both of these conditions are true, packets will not get (or get > > back) to where they're supposed to go, even if your box setup is all ok. > The The machines is 192.168.1 aren't using my BSD box like it's default > gateway it, so it may be the problem? But, like I've said, this is the > second time I try to put the things to work, the first time I've set the > 192.168.1 machines to use my bsd as default gatway and didn't work also. But > I gonna change it to test again. My machines in 192.168.2 are all using > 192.168.2.90 as it gateway already. Well, as above. In your scenario all of the boxes in each of your 3 local subnets will have to route packets for the other 2 subnets via your box's address in that subnet, either as their default route or by adding specific routes for each of the 'foreign' subnets via your box. Tricky unless you have admin control of all boxes' routing, especially in an 'anything that can happen will happen' environment like a campus, unless this box is going to be the default route for all subnets anyway? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:01:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024EE16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A857A13C45A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41748E0006C3; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:14 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:14 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:17 -0000 Nikos Vassiliadis wrote: >On Wednesday 12 December 2007 04:06:01 Erich Dollansky wrote: > > >>>There's no clean solutions to getting different lookups per-user that >>>I >>> >>> >>The clen solution is hosts. >> >> > >But hosts is operating system-wide. > >Both ipfw and pf support tables, which is what you >want, large sets or unrelated (addresses|networks). >Both of them support UID matching as a target >(caution: this feature is not mpsafe on FreeBSD-6). > > I don't understand how you think any firewall would do this. Firewalls will block based on IP addresses, whereas what I do (pointing numerous ad sites at a local apache vhost) works based on names. I have no clue if the ad sites share IP addresses with anything else, nor do I care; nor do I care if some ad site has 50 different IP addresses because I never resolve the real IP. To take a random, made up example: ads.useful.site = 10.1.1.1 www.useful.site = 10.1.1.1 Using hosts (or DNS) I can make ads.useful.site instead = 192.168.1.1 or ads.useful.site = 101.1.1 -> 10.1.1.255 but I'm going to spend *forever* before I get all those IP addresses from a round-robin DNS entry to put into some ipfw table, and if any of those addresses also hosts the main site, I end up blocking that too. I don't see how a firewall is appropriate for this (hosts.allow, likewise). The point of the exercise is to never even contact the ad host. If I've misunderstood something about your approach, please enlighten me. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:05:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3E916A41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from astro.systems.pipex.net (astro.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF76A13C45A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by astro.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35905E000445; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:35 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475FCE90.4060506@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:36 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Dollansky References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712111718.05876.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475EAC9D.1020902@pacific.net.sg> <20071211084309.A16234@wonkity.com> <475EB887.6070902@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:51 -0000 Erich Dollansky wrote: > Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >> Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >> Assuming I've understood your initial post correctly, then I do the >> same, redirecting some dozen ad sites to a local web server. With a > > > this is how I started. Then friends did the same. We exchanged the > files. We added hosts files from the Internet. > >> dozen or so aliases I've never noticed any difference in performance, >> but I suspect you have rather more than that :-) I could never quite be > > > I also do not notice a difference. Especially news sites with all the > ads are even faster as there is no waiting for the ads. > >> I'm pretty sure you could also do the same with a local DNS server, if > > > This is what I am thinking of since some time but I never did. > > It would have the additional advantage of faster name resolution. > > Having a DNS on every machine seems like a real overkill to me. Why would you have DNS on every machine? I don't know what your setup is like, but any separate network (like your home, your office) would only need one(*) DNS server for the entire network. Of course, everyone then gets their ads blocked, not just you :-) No way to make it per-user that I can think of. But, you could run 1 DNS and only point hosts which wished to participate in the ad blocking at that DNS server and let others do their resolution however they normally do it (ISP DNS, company DNS). > >> There's no clean solutions to getting different lookups per-user that I > > > The clen solution is hosts. It's not per-user, which was what you originally asked. > >> Unclean solutions might include something like making the hosts file > > > This is something I would like to avoid. If you want different name resolution per user, then I see little alternative to something like this. I'm not even sure it's possible, to be honest, but then name resolution was never expected to be per user :-( --Alex Yes, you should probably have a second, slave DNS if your network is more than a couple of hosts. Setting up a DNS is not actually that hard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:08:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2648716A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2B913C465 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-16-204.net-htp.de [89.182.16.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C0E7A44529; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:01:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:10:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: Nikos Vassiliadis , Alex Zbyslaw Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:08:20 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 13:01:14 schrieb Alex Zbyslaw: > > I don't see how a firewall is appropriate for this (hosts.allow, > likewise). The point of the exercise is to never even contact the ad host. Transparent proxy with squid on the firewall? There's even plugins to manage exactly this kind of ad-blocking with squid; although I don't currently know the extension's name. This is pretty much going to be your only option to do this in a centralized fashion. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:31:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A142216A468 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net (blaster.systems.pipex.net [62.241.163.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDD413C504 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807C8E00085F; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:09 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475FD48C.7090508@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:08 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:11 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: >Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 13:01:14 schrieb Alex Zbyslaw: > > >> >>I don't see how a firewall is appropriate for this (hosts.allow, >>likewise). The point of the exercise is to never even contact the ad host. >> >> > >Transparent proxy with squid on the firewall? There's even plugins to manage >exactly this kind of ad-blocking with squid; although I don't currently know >the extension's name. > >This is pretty much going to be your only option to do this in a centralized >fashion. > > > Squid may well be an alternative solution, but it's not, imho, a firewall solution as Nikos was proposing. I have zero experience of squid beyond reading about it, but it has always sounded like a major resource hog. Perhaps just running one plugin to do just this would be OK? The advantage of /etc/hosts is simplicity. For a small home network of BSD machines it's pretty trivial to propagate updates. Not even *that* hard to copy the file to a couple windows machines. Beyond that, the updates could get pretty tedious. For a network-wide, multi-OS solution I would still look at DNS just because it's more lightweight than squid. Which is not to say that someone else shouldn't reach an alternate conclusion :-) Always good to know what the alternatives are! Best, --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:35:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB8F16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4227A13C4D3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:35:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 65B0914220F; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:35:27 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AE31420E6; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:35:24 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Alex Zbyslaw Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:38:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> In-Reply-To: <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121438.01515.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:35:28 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007 14:01:14 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > but I'm going to spend *forever* before I get all those IP addresses > from a round-robin DNS entry to put into some ipfw table, No, it's going to take something like 5 minutes. At least for a 1420 lines hosts file. > and if any of > those addresses also hosts the main site, I end up blocking that too. Yes, but I doubt there is any other service on these web servers. > > I don't see how a firewall is appropriate for this (hosts.allow, > likewise). The point of the exercise is to never even contact the ad > host. The point of the exercise is not that apparent to everybody. > If I've misunderstood something about your approach, please enlighten > me. You misunderstood something, just because you and some people do it, does is it make it the legitimate usage of /etc/hosts? That's not the apparent usage of /etc/hosts to everyone. I said I need more info, and I tried to guess what he does. Please read the whole thread before trying to be that didactic! Cheers, Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:52:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C205316A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741C513C4E1 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id B33CE21A6A; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from secure.esiee.fr (secure.esiee.fr [147.215.1.19]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4F321A6A; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:33:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [147.215.1.21] (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by secure.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45736E6030; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:33:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <475FD52E.2060901@esiee.fr> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:33:50 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061027) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Software to manage BIND 9 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:52:35 -0000 Hi I'm searching for some "good" software that runs with FreeBSD to manage a primary DNS server with several domains. I've looked around, google for it, but was not able to have a precise idea so if some DNS admins that use one could tell me which are the most populars and usefuls it would be great :-) Thanks a lot in advance. -- Cordialement Frank Bonnet From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 12:54:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5C016A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80E213C478 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-16-204.net-htp.de [89.182.16.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B503A44529; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:47:12 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: Erich Dollansky Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:56:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> <475FD663.4070008@pacific.net.sg> In-Reply-To: <475FD663.4070008@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121356.01623.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:54:19 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 13:38:59 schrieben Sie: > I want to do precisely the opposite. It should affect only a single > machine. It would even be better if it would affect only a single > account on that machine. Affecting only a single machine/a single account has nothing to do with the fact that you manage and implement it centrally; the two concepts are orthogonal. Basically, this should come around to giving squid (from what I'd do in your case) different rule sets based on authentication to the proxy and/or originating IP in your internal network, which leads to different behaviour depending on the accessing person/program. Basically, why I personally rather like the squid (i.e., proxy-based) approach to ad-blocking is the fact that if you try to do this at a lower level than the HTTP-level, there's bound to be pages that display wrong/broken, simply because not being able to fetch images (because they supposedly come from "localhost") means that most browsers are not going to display the space reserved to it and will mess up the page layout, even when specifying width= _and_ height= in an img-tag (when only specifying one of the attributes or none, the page layout will be broken anyway). Opera is my favourite candidate for messing up page layouts in this case. On another note, Opera has an (IMHO) huge timeout for failed (i.e., refused, not timed out) connections to the target host, and if many images refer to localhost through some DNS or hosts magic, this is going to majorly slow down page display/buildup on non-css based layouts, which sadly there still are enough out there (and for some of which the ad-slots are an integral part of the page layout, such as some german news sites). If you do the blocking at the topmost level (i.e., through squid or some other HTTP proxy), the proxy can generate an empty/transparent image with the appropriate proportions to fill the now void space, which the extension I referenced earlier will do automatically for you. This doesn't stop the connection to the ad host from happening (i.e., isn't a traffic saver, but who cares about that nowadays I'd say), but it does stop the end-user from seeing the ad (and/or its content). It even allows you more fine-grained control over which URLs to block, so that you don't have to filter by host specifically, but might also filter by directory (which is required at some sites, as the ads/unwanted content comes from the same host as the actual content you're interested in). It's a matter of choice how much duress you want the end-user to endure, basically, seeing that user-based discrimination on a proxy also requires authentication (unless you implement packet redirects on the end-user machines to different ports of the firewall depending on the user originating the outgoing packet, but this is just as bad to keep synchronized in the end). But, anyway, it would be my way to go to achieve what you're trying to do efficiently. Just my 5 (Euro)-cents. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 13:42:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD28A16A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pereyra.roberto@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B85A13C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:42:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pereyra.roberto@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so673554pyb.3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:42:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xKWizlFlUMGHWF3GpG0f3kLJmgPK0YSnAemmXPQIZco=; b=QFrfGj4lR0WOZR8imkV1heQLr+phDagOm+f+Ok0Bcuv7uaFJiPIp4WoQXaDndtT7rOL9doiIjTQihwsTXkP3R8gZbPIeLQGtrHQm+oWZX+xo7MRjku1vm95B6gdQtIykhg/rm7R2pRMC8RP+tzly3Ua3Ax750zAbu7sVNTPF9Cs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ejgMgYm03w2e9nSHFzdCCtLFNq5ZnvQcgAQVO5EJWpY8F+d7iyOP/GvfneSyxoE8IfzT3qiLQ5EdJDkGCRIVajIwme39DvsOVx6dVSn6rSgfyPT7csefNHR+VE9Vnqs0+q30OVcAq4cM5ZmJbn0x/r+0EQDYY2oZILF3WQjnwdU= Received: by 10.140.126.14 with SMTP id y14mr317446rvc.96.1197465261484; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:14:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.70.15 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:14:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:14:21 -0300 From: "Roberto Pereyra" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <475FD52E.2060901@esiee.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <475FD52E.2060901@esiee.fr> Subject: Re: Software to manage BIND 9 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:42:39 -0000 webmin is a good bind manager. roberto -- Ing. Roberto Pereyra ContenidosOnline http://www.contenidosonline.com.ar Get secure managed email for your own domain with Hushmail Business - http://www.hushmail.com/business?l=503&a=3211 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 13:51:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAFD16A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EA013C467 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 932CA14252E; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:46 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F837142192; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:30 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:55:24 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:51:55 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007 13:13:48 Andriy Gapon wrote: > I recently noticed that FreeBSD doesn't prevent tray opening (via a > button on CD/DVD drive) even if I mount a CD with ISO 9660 filesystem on > it. This at least happens with ATAPI CD drive (acd driver/device). > > Maybe my memory is failing me but I seem to remember times when mounting > a CD locked a tray. Shouldn't this be a more reasonable behavior ? Yes, could file a PR? I see the mentioned behavior for my recent 6-STABLE. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 13:53:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3481016A41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:53:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RD=eea80e9f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D9313C458 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:53:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RD=eea80e9f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61E116429B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:28:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C5CD0562 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:28:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:28:05 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071212132805.608dcfd5@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <475FD48C.7090508@dial.pipex.com> References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> <475FD48C.7090508@dial.pipex.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:53:40 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:08 +0000 Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > I have zero experience of squid beyond reading about it, but it has > always sounded like a major resource hog. It depends how you use it. I think you can probably get it down to about 15 MB, if you eliminate memory caching and use a modest disk cache. Squid needs to store per object metadata in memory, about 10-20MB per GB of disk cache, and that's what leads to very large memory use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 14:34:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC71116A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DAB13C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id C9B466125; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF2960E8 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by torus.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lBCEYM0J039900 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:22 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:21 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071212143421.GA38254@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: RELENG_7 and diablo-jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:26 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:06:13AM -0300, Daniel Molina Wegener wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > ??Is there any problem if I run diablo-jdk-1.5_07 under RELENG_7? > I mean, ??is the diablo-jdk binary compatible with RELENG_7? It's working here fine: --->$ uname -a FreeBSD torus.slightlystrange.org 7.0-BETA4 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 #10: Fri Dec = 7 16:06:58 GMT 2007 root@torus.slightlystrange.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sy= s/TORUS i386 --->$ java -version java version "1.5.0" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build diablo-1.5.0-b01) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build diablo-1.5.0_07-b01, mixed mode) Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHX/Ftixf5fBYiFmoRAo8dAJ4xoSz+eS5bYNXOHPIKYMowMQn30gCgykPu Bn2CyHPCIxUZr0OMFPKmFg8= =xDS+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 14:51:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C530D16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.net [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E8213C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:51:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu ([151.77.240.163]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBCEqBtp089096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:52:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.1/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBCEpdFW036744 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <475FF552.2030703@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:50:58 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Worldwind (Java) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:51:13 -0000 Hello. Anyone tried running the demo from their SDK? I had no luck with native JDK: %./run-demo.bash gov.nasa.worldwind.examples.ApplicationTemplate Running gov.nasa.worldwind.examples.ApplicationTemplate Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/jdk1.5.0/jre/lib/i386/libjawt.so: Shared object "libmawt.so" not found, required by "libjawt.so" Does this mean I have to install anything else? Is there any hope, since it's using jni? Next try was linux-sun-jdk: here I was able to go a litte further and the app almost work, but obviously very slow and with lots of renger glitches and exceptions in the console. %./run-demo.bash gov.nasa.worldwind.examples.ApplicationTemplate Running gov.nasa.worldwind.examples.ApplicationTemplate libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4c libGL error: drmGetMagic failed libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering javax.media.opengl.GLException: Error: no OpenGL buffer object appears to be bound to target 0x8892 Any hint is appreciated. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 14:51:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419F416A4DD for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0A313C46B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:51:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-16-204.net-htp.de [89.182.16.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C6FA44529; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:44:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: dmw@unete.cl Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:53:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> In-Reply-To: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121553.01492.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RELENG_7 and diablo-jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:51:20 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 11:06:13 schrieb Daniel Molina Wegener: > =C2=BFIs there any problem if I run diablo-jdk-1.5_07 under RELENG_7? > I mean, =C2=BFis the diablo-jdk binary compatible with RELENG_7? Yes, there are/were quite some problems (which may not become immediately=20 apparent with "standard" use but will as soon as you use Java software such= =20 as the sun-wtk). Generally, you'll want to build the sun-jdks on RELENG_7,= =20 using the diablo-jdk as a bootstapper and removing it after at least one=20 other jdk has been installed. Instructions for downloading the sources and BSD-patches for the sun-jdks a= re=20 in ports (i.e., "cd /usr/ports/java/jdk1; make" will tell you what to do= ). =2D-=20 Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 14:52:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C49016A468 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E2613C468 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 258035/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.31 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.31 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAJyEX0c+8aIf/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from galaxy.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.31]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2007 14:52:32 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by galaxy.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0943FE0000DB; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:52:31 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475FF5AF.1060902@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:52:31 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> <475FD663.4070008@pacific.net.sg> <200712121356.01623.wundram@beenic.net> In-Reply-To: <200712121356.01623.wundram@beenic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:52:34 -0000 Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote: >Basically, why I personally rather like the squid (i.e., proxy-based) approach >to ad-blocking is the fact that if you try to do this at a lower level than >the HTTP-level, there's bound to be pages that display wrong/broken, simply >because not being able to fetch images (because they supposedly come >from "localhost") means that most browsers are not going to display the space >reserved to it and will mess up the page layout, even when specifying width= >_and_ height= in an img-tag (when only specifying one of the attributes or >none, the page layout will be broken anyway). Opera is my favourite candidate >for messing up page layouts in this case. > >On another note, Opera has an (IMHO) huge timeout for failed (i.e., refused, >not timed out) connections to the target host, and if many images refer to >localhost through some DNS or hosts magic, this is going to majorly slow down >page display/buildup on non-css based layouts, which sadly there still are >enough out there (and for some of which the ad-slots are an integral part of >the page layout, such as some german news sites). > > I'm certainly convinced that this is a viable solution to the ad problem, but it still seems *to me* far more work than dumping a bunch of hostnames in /etc/hosts. I have, myself, had little or no trouble with page layouts messing up, but I maybe haven't used the solution on a large enough scale to notice. But if you really want to configure the heck out of ads then squid would seem to have much more flexibility, at the cost of greater maintenance. As for the timeouts issue, you are assuming that the host names are redirected to an IP address where nothing is listening. I redirect to a local IP alias and do have an apache server listening which serves up a default page with a blue background. I want to *see* the ad being blocked as it gives me a sense of smug satisfaction :-) I'm sure you could do something more sophisticated, but this has worked well enough for me with virtually no maintenance. I certainly get no noticeable delays with opera when I use it. Best, --Alex PS The /etc/hosts solution must be described plenty of places that are google-able since I found it through none of the resources mentioned in this discussion. I wish I could say I'd thought of it for myself, but like so many good ideas I just borrowed it shamelessly from somewhere else. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 14:59:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF3516A420 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:59:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB1913C4D9 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 245789/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.162.32 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.162.32 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAPt+X0c+8aIg/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from ranger.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.162.32]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2007 14:29:59 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by ranger.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B91AE000094; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:29:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <475FF065.40803@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:29:57 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475FCD8A.5090903@dial.pipex.com> <200712121310.01617.wundram@beenic.net> <475FD48C.7090508@dial.pipex.com> <20071212132805.608dcfd5@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071212132805.608dcfd5@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:59:06 -0000 RW wrote: >On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:08 +0000 >Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > >>I have zero experience of squid beyond reading about it, but it has >>always sounded like a major resource hog. >> >> > >It depends how you use it. I think you can probably get it down to >about 15 MB, if you eliminate memory caching and use a modest disk >cache. Squid needs to store per object metadata in memory, about >10-20MB per GB of disk cache, and that's what leads to very large >memory use. > Thanks for the info. That doesn't seem too bad in relation to a small network, but I can see why a large network might want to dedicate a separate host. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 15:38:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2B116A41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from mail.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A9113C461 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from asahi-net.jp (b150056.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [202.213.150.56]) by mail.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9FD4E30F; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:38:30 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:38:30 +0900 From: Watanabe Kazuhiro To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <475F7CDA.60409@monkeybrains.net> References: <475F7CDA.60409@monkeybrains.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.1 (AOI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20071212153830.DE9FD4E30F@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Cc: Rudy Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:38:32 -0000 Hi. At Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0800, Rudy wrote: > > After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better > > phrase my question: > > how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? > > > > Rudy > > > >> here is the output of /dev/sndstat > >> FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > >> Installed devices: > >> pcm0: at memory > >> 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:1v/1r:1v > >> channels duplex default) > >> pcm1: at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) > >> mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz > > Anyone know how do do this, or should I try freebsd-multimedia or something like that? > > ... on other OS'es I've seen ways to define a default microphone when a machine has two > microphones. Can't seem to figure that out in BSD (I can assign a default pcm device, but my pcm1 > doesn't have output... Audacity will be able to specify a different dsp device for the recording and playback device via the "Audacity Preferences" panel ("Edit" -> "Preferences" -> "Audio I/O"); e.g. /dev/dsp0 for playback, and /dev/dsp1 for recording. Have you tried such configulation? --- Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 15:40:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0150716A46C for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (firewall.studsvik-analytic.com [155.212.59.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C0E13C4CE for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pc142.studsvik-analytic.com [192.168.169.142]) by bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id lBCFVPXl002259; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:31:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:50:27 -0500 From: Patrick Baldwin Organization: Studsvik Scandpower User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trix Farrar , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> In-Reply-To: <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:40:20 -0000 Trix Farrar wrote: > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:03:03PM -0500, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >> Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a >> FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, >> but: >> >> webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >> mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block >> > > It's probably formatted msdosfs. Have you tried: > > webmail# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > No, I hadn't, but that doesn't seem to work either: mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument webmail# dmesg umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 15:59:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5155716A41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB8313C457 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@foster.cc) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PrA91Y00217dt5G0507600; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:48:18 +0000 Received: from fosgate.dyndns.org ([71.231.158.147]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ProG1Y00A3B62Q73Z00000; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:48:18 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=uahjgWApxeYA:15 a=OP5bxEb08/jyN+AGU4sEjQ==:17 a=VcHaMJnRAAAA:8 a=81ABGVOTAAAA:8 a=j32-r1vJDOiOCGU7W7IA:9 a=OUQyeMOckjl5mFcfUWwqsBTnsCsA:4 a=iYlkOlhu7C0A:10 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fosgate.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4A139828 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:43:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foster.cc Received: from fosgate.dyndns.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sonar.foster.dmz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QCNWpvs5rRSn for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:43:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.253.48] (unknown [198.134.96.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: mdf) by fosgate.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CA739825 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:43:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <476002B8.3090509@foster.cc> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 07:48:08 -0800 From: "Mark D. Foster" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre (X11/20071023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475FD52E.2060901@esiee.fr> In-Reply-To: <475FD52E.2060901@esiee.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Software to manage BIND 9 ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:59:21 -0000 Frank Bonnet wrote: > I'm searching for some "good" software that runs with FreeBSD to manage > a primary DNS server with several domains. We use Men & Mice at work for the last 2 years to manage our Linux (BIND9) and MS DNS servers. The product also works with FreeBSD. See http://www.menandmice.com/solutions/suite/unixbind -- Said one park ranger, 'There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.' Mark D. Foster, CISSP http://mark.foster.cc/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:02:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DDD16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from qsmtp3.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED85013C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 17107 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 08:02:46 -0800 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 16883, pid: 16884, t: 45.1049s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on qsmtp3.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.1.7-deb Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (66.205.146.210) by qsmtp3 with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 08:02:01 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A85164AAE; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:01:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4760060A.2000205@mykitchentable.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:02:18 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Trix Farrar Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:02:47 -0000 On 12/12/2007 7:50 AM Patrick Baldwin said the following: > Trix Farrar wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:03:03PM -0500, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >>> Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a >>> FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, >>> but: >>> >>> webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >>> mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block >>> >> >> It's probably formatted msdosfs. Have you tried: >> >> webmail# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >> > > No, I hadn't, but that doesn't seem to work either: > > mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > > webmail# dmesg > umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry Just a guess here but it's likely the drive was formatted as NTFS instead of FAT-32 if it's a recent drive. Try mount_ntfs. HTH, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:09:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D8516A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8BA13C442 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:09:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBCG9uuJ021617; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:09:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBCG9uKG021614; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:09:56 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:09:56 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Erich Dollansky In-Reply-To: <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> Message-ID: <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:09:56 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:09:58 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > If you still see unwanted content, just add a line and it will be gone during > your next visit. Like AdBlockPlus, only more work. > The beauty is, Internet feels still faster then before. Like AdblockPlus. > It has one advantage over all those ad removal tools. It filters what I do > not like. It has nothing to do with censorship, it just gets rid of all the > crap hanging around on every corner of a web page trying to sell you anti > virus software or larger dicks. Like AdblockPlus. What is the one advantage? There are some differences: AdblockPlus removes the ads and lets the browser use the space, rather than showing broken pages. And you can customize blocked sites differently for different users. And you can easily disable it. And it doesn't impact the whole system, just the browser. And you can block on regexes, so you don't need hundreds of entries to block the big ad farms. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:10:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FF616A474 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:10:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (firewall.studsvik-analytic.com [155.212.59.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A04613C458 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:10:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pc142.studsvik-analytic.com [192.168.169.142]) by bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id lBCG1cXl002938; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:01:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47600A58.3080802@studsvik.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:20:40 -0500 From: Patrick Baldwin Organization: Studsvik Scandpower User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> <4760060A.2000205@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <4760060A.2000205@mykitchentable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:10:21 -0000 Drew Tomlinson wrote: > On 12/12/2007 7:50 AM Patrick Baldwin said the following: >> Trix Farrar wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:03:03PM -0500, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >>>> Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a >>>> FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, >>>> but: >>>> >>>> webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >>>> mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block >>>> >>> >>> It's probably formatted msdosfs. Have you tried: >>> >>> webmail# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >>> >> >> No, I hadn't, but that doesn't seem to work either: >> >> mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >> mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument >> >> webmail# dmesg >> umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device >> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >> da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) >> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry >> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry > > Just a guess here but it's likely the drive was formatted as NTFS > instead of FAT-32 if it's a recent drive. Try mount_ntfs. > > HTH, Tried that, got: webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument Which doesn't make any sense to me, as it seems to be telling me the /dev/da0s1 is an invalid argument. Just for the hell of it, I tried: webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt/usbdrive mount_ntfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument Argh. Hate it when what I expected to be a simple task eats this much time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:20:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8C916A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1323313C467 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (jn@ns1 [69.55.238.237]) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id lBCGKEgh085857; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:20:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: (from www@localhost) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id lBCGKEVf085856; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:20:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) X-Authentication-Warning: ns1.jnielsen.net: www set sender to lists@jnielsen.net using -f Received: from nc-2wac-zop08.wachovia.com (nc-2wac-zop08.wachovia.com [162.111.235.19]) by newwebmail.jnielsen.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:20:14 -0500 Message-ID: <20071212112014.ju3k4ojq68ck40cc@newwebmail.jnielsen.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:20:14 -0500 From: John Nielsen To: Gary Kline References: <20071211102810.GA99652@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20071211214323.GD28415@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071211214323.GD28415@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.4) / FreeBSD-4.9 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: still no luck in coping a 6 G dvd to a 4.7 dvd. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:20:15 -0000 Quoting Gary Kline : > On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:28:10AM +0100, Michel Talon wrote: >> Gary Kline wrote: >> >> > Guys, I've set up a test account which is pure KDE. Still, using both >> > my Pioneer and the Lite-on burners, no luck in burning a DVD that is >> > larger than thee default. >> >> How do want this to work? You have to recompress the initial DVD stream, >> and for that there is an excellent program to run under your KDE account >> (k9copy). >> > > i don't seem too get very far with k9copy. I have two burners, > and can open either device. I had it set to read from cd0 and > wwrite to cd1. The app reports that there is no documentation > available for k9copy. Is there a front commmand string I can use > here? Or online docs? FWIW the most useful howto on DVD backup techniques I've ever seen is here: http://kavlon.org/index.php/dvdbackup It says it's for Linux but all of the programs needed are available in FreeBSD's ports tree. It's command-line based, but parts of it could be scripted, etc. One additional note on the original ripping phase: I find tccat to be more reliable than vobcopy, although with some DVD's it makes sense to try both. And vobcopy is better at guessing which title is the feature if there is more than one. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:23:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78AD16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from qsmtp1.mc.surewest.net (qsmtp.mc.surewest.net [66.60.130.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1EC513C45D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:23:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: (qmail 29030 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 08:23:46 -0800 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 28993, pid: 28995, t: 8.7665s scanners: regex: 1.1.0 attach: 1.1.0 spam: 3.1.7-deb X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on qsmtp1.surewest.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.1.7-deb Received: from unknown (HELO blacklamb.mykitchentable.net) (66.205.146.210) by qsmtp1 with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 08:23:38 -0800 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1DA164875; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47600B1B.3040502@mykitchentable.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:23:55 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> <4760060A.2000205@mykitchentable.net> <47600A58.3080802@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <47600A58.3080802@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:23:48 -0000 On 12/12/2007 8:20 AM Patrick Baldwin said the following: > Drew Tomlinson wrote: >> On 12/12/2007 7:50 AM Patrick Baldwin said the following: >>> Trix Farrar wrote: >>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:03:03PM -0500, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >>>>> Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a >>>>> FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, >>>>> but: >>>>> >>>>> webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >>>>> mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block >>>>> >>>> >>>> It's probably formatted msdosfs. Have you tried: >>>> >>>> webmail# mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >>>> >>> >>> No, I hadn't, but that doesn't seem to work either: >>> >>> mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >>> mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument >>> >>> webmail# dmesg >>> umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 >>> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >>> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device >>> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >>> da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) >>> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry >>> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry >> >> Just a guess here but it's likely the drive was formatted as NTFS >> instead of FAT-32 if it's a recent drive. Try mount_ntfs. >> >> HTH, > > > Tried that, got: > > webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > > Which doesn't make any sense to me, as it seems to > be telling me the /dev/da0s1 is an invalid argument. > > Just for the hell of it, I tried: > webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_ntfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument > > Argh. Hate it when what I expected to be a simple task > eats this much time. Another guess. I wonder if you have to spell out the full slice such as /dev/da0s1. I know slice "c" is used to represent the entire drive but there's something special about it. Thus verify that mounding /dev/da0/s1c will not destroy data before mounting. Maybe bsdlabel would be of help here? It should show you the slices on the drive and then you can try mounting. Good luck, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:30:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E661316A420 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7BE13C448 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2UTC-0000LS-4U for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:02 +0000 Received: from feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu ([139.78.110.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:02 +0000 Received: from joines by feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason Joines Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:23:11 -0600 Lines: 15 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) Sender: news Subject: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:30:11 -0000 I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? Jason Joines ================================= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:32:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159E916A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) Received: from mk-outboundfilter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-outboundfilter-1-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D25A13C46A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xfb52@dial.pipex.com) X-Trace: 301986/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/PIPEX/$MX-ACCEPTED/pipex-infrastructure/62.241.163.7 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.241.163.7 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: xfb52@dial.pipex.com X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAEecX0c+8aMH/2dsb2JhbAA Received: from blaster.systems.pipex.net ([62.241.163.7]) by smtp.pipex.tiscali.co.uk with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2007 16:32:44 +0000 Received: from [192.168.23.2] (62-31-10-181.cable.ubr05.edin.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.10.181]) by blaster.systems.pipex.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC00E000089; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:32:43 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47600D2B.70306@dial.pipex.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:32:43 +0000 From: Alex Zbyslaw User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-GB; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20061205 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:32:46 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote: > >> If you still see unwanted content, just add a line and it will be >> gone during your next visit. > > Like AdBlockPlus, only more work. > >> The beauty is, Internet feels still faster then before. > > Like AdblockPlus. > >> It has one advantage over all those ad removal tools. It filters what >> I do not like. It has nothing to do with censorship, it just gets rid >> of all the crap hanging around on every corner of a web page trying >> to sell you anti virus software or larger dicks. > > Like AdblockPlus. What is the one advantage? > > There are some differences: AdblockPlus removes the ads and lets the > browser use the space, rather than showing broken pages. And you can > customize blocked sites differently for different users. And you can > easily disable it. And it doesn't impact the whole system, just the > browser. And you can block on regexes, so you don't need hundreds of > entries to block the big ad farms. According to it's web pages "*Note*: It is recommended to use at least Firefox 2.0, Thunderbird 2.0, SeaMonkey 1.1 or Songbird 0.2. Older versions receive less testing and support for them is likely to be dropped in a few months." The other schemes mentioned in this thread (hosts, DNS, squid) work with any and every web browser. The OP already said he doesn't use Firefox. I myself still use Mozilla, Opera, and (heaven help me) IE, none of which are on the list. As I've already mentioned, I see no broken pages because I don't break the layout (usually), and the post about squid talked about clear gifs as replacements which again would not break anything. AdblockPlus is a valid alternative *if you are just a Firefox user*, but for everyone else, some other solution is required. --Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 16:58:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A0616A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFD913C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3867174400B; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:58:45 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HMxbrZVFwI52; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:58:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14340744001; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:58:45 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:58:44 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:58:47 -0000 on 12/12/2007 15:55 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: > On Wednesday 12 December 2007 13:13:48 Andriy Gapon wrote: >> I recently noticed that FreeBSD doesn't prevent tray opening (via a >> button on CD/DVD drive) even if I mount a CD with ISO 9660 filesystem on >> it. This at least happens with ATAPI CD drive (acd driver/device). >> >> Maybe my memory is failing me but I seem to remember times when mounting >> a CD locked a tray. Shouldn't this be a more reasonable behavior ? > > Yes, could file a PR? > > I see the mentioned behavior for my recent 6-STABLE. Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having atapicam and hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD change is to blame. My theory: after I mount some media on acd0, hald wants to "taste" it through cd0, on opening cd0 device 'prevent' command is sent, on closing cd0 'allow' is sent, so in the end drive's tray is in unlocked state. I don't see any easy resolution for this, but it definitely would be good to come up with one. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:02:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80CD16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: from smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg (smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg [203.120.90.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F9E013C46A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oceanare@pacific.net.sg) Received: (qmail 14729 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 17:02:24 -0000 Received: from adsl2.dyn234.pacific.net.sg (HELO P2120.somewherefaraway.com) (oceanare@210.24.234.2) by smtpgate1.pacific.net.sg with ESMTPA; 12 Dec 2007 17:02:23 -0000 Message-ID: <47601417.7070607@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:02:15 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070826) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:02:26 -0000 Hi, Warren Block wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Erich Dollansky wrote: >> >> If you still see unwanted content, just add a line and it will be gone >> during your next visit. > > Like AdBlockPlus, only more work. > >> The beauty is, Internet feels still faster then before. > > Like AdblockPlus. > >> It has one advantage over all those ad removal tools. It filters what >> I do not like. It has nothing to do with censorship, it just gets rid >> of all the crap hanging around on every corner of a web page trying to >> sell you anti virus software or larger dicks. > > Like AdblockPlus. What is the one advantage? > > There are some differences: AdblockPlus removes the ads and lets the but it is limited to these browsers: Minimal requirements: Firefox 1.5, Thunderbird 1.5, SeaMonkey 1.0, Flock 0.5, Songbird 0.2. Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:08:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E9216A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamieavery1@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3768313C461 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:08:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamieavery1@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so292403nfb.33 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:08:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ld2VD7UeJRTryAflRkAM4lh94viMimttUMSaPrBUfpU=; b=a9pp6j+l/9QdSpDDQFF+qyJp/jobyfuoXIrBdCR9N3skoQhPNT8FBF+jFyaGBFDOm9ca9xT3yF9+rOaRCfddVd5pQSmNVBvqRbrQRYsuPSzmLeJTS8updG0HR8PpULFoCGq5FlZyVLp1mom/KZsMQFuTGLfArgQL/WlP7PlP2PM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=TTS0lyg/yUEDsfRjfHZtuFiyStu4ZIxMe7hXWHSSWKC2YYCQD4zVV0Cj06IfC/dM4LFeYZzO/bJEuquZ3eQN2LR4zovAQAbU7CJFm0yCtWD0fbiBfaZC6uKY39w+dn9LK7S6Pmwn8bTaDNOKcHhgd6LhhKo4v82gHuZ9HN52ARI= Received: by 10.82.171.16 with SMTP id t16mr2247549bue.11.1197477829245; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:43:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?152.114.254.200? ( [195.188.86.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t12sm2658657gvd.2007.12.12.08.43.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:43:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47601051.9090400@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:46:09 +0000 From: Jamie Avery User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: make buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:08:37 -0000 Hi I have a custom Kernel Config file in /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/. I have put KERNCONF=/kernelname/ into /etc/make.conf. However, when I make buildkernel, I get the following error ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (/kernelname/). *** Error code 1 Make.conf appears to be looking for the Kernel config file in the /i386/conf/ folder, as when I put a copy of /kernelname /in the /i386/conf directory it starts to run, before failing on various unknown parameters that I assume are specific to the amd64 architecture. Am I missing something? Do I need to state my processor architecture elsewhere? Or explicitly tell make.conf to look in the amd64 directory rather than the i386? Any help greatly appreciated. Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:10:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB1216A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:10:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49F813C455 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id D73CB98639; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:09:59 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <476015D9.6070604@onetel.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:09:45 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:10:05 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Trix Farrar wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 06:03:03PM -0500, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >>> Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a >>> FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, >>> but: > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry I don't know how it is now but there used to be an upper limit on FAT32 filesystem size in FreeBSD, 128gb I believe. You could get round it by recompiling your kernel with MSDOSFS_LARGE but there were some limitations on it's use. I'm sure google would find further info. Chris > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:12:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560A116A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF53B13C478 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBCHCEhL051938; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 748BBB829; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:14 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Nikolaj Thygesen Message-ID: <20071212171214.GA7590@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Nikolaj Thygesen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475D781D.8020707@email.unc.edu> <20071210130522.P48709@shell.xecu.net> <475F086B.80608@diamondbox.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <475F086B.80608@diamondbox.dk> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Wacom driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:17 -0000 --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 11:00:11PM +0100, Nikolaj Thygesen wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Having just aquired a usb wacom tablet and discovering the linuxwacom= =20 > project, I was wondering why only serial tablets are supported on FBSD?? Doesn't it work with uhid(4)? Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYBZuEnfvsMMhpyURAkbKAJ0dt+Z9ymcbZ9K+M6L0/OKAR6n3XQCcDC6W imwnhuBjaT5VylryZiqDqY0= =oZxB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:19:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B60E16A475 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (p65-147.acedsl.com [66.114.65.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4986813C461 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@stringsutils.com) Received: from zoraida.natserv.net (zoraida.natserv.net [66.114.65.147]) by zoraida.natserv.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1F217021 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:00:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: http://www.courier-mta.org/cone/ From: Francisco Reyes To: Free BSD Questions list Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:00:06 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where is the next uid from adduser pulled from? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:03 -0000 I have scripts to add new users. However, after that any port that installs a user creates it with a UID after the ones I made. For example I want all employees to have uids starting at 5000, but I would like too port installed uids to be 2000 and up. After I add some users (ie say last user is 5008), the next port that installs a user and doesn't specify uid.. then will get 5009. Tried looking for the adduser program, but could not find adduser.c Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:56:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACB516A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80F513C46E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:56:05 -0800 Message-ID: <476020B4.4020100@riderway.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:56:04 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jamie Avery References: <47601051.9090400@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <47601051.9090400@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: make buildworld fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:56:06 -0000 Jamie Avery wrote: > put KERNCONF=/kernelname/ into /etc/make.conf. However, when I make > buildkernel, I get the following error 7.x+ src.conf, below make.conf grep KERNCONF /etc/make.conf /etc/src.conf /etc/src.conf:KERNCONF?= RIDERWAY NO /s neccessary. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 17:58:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FE416A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net (exhub015-2.exch015.msoutlookonline.net [207.5.72.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937AB13C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@ridecharge.com) Received: from philip.hq.rws (74.93.213.161) by smtpx15.msoutlookonline.net (207.5.72.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.0.744.0; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:58:44 -0800 Message-ID: <47602153.70201@riderway.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:58:43 -0500 From: "Philip M. Gollucci" Organization: Riderway Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070919) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francisco Reyes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Where is the next uid from adduser pulled from? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:58:45 -0000 Francisco Reyes wrote: > I have scripts to add new users. However, after that any port that installs > a user creates it with a UID after the ones I made. > > For example I want all employees to have uids starting at 5000, but I would > like too port installed uids to be 2000 and up. After I add some users (ie > say last user is 5008), the next port that installs a user and doesn't > specify uid.. then will get 5009. > > Tried looking for the adduser program, but could not find adduser.c /usr/src/usr.sbin/pw Ports call 'pw add user x', and pw add group y' -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Philip M. Gollucci (philip@ridecharge.com) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 18:04:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ECC16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from heka.cenkes.org (heka.cenkes.org [208.79.80.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC0B13C461 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sat@cenkes.org) Received: from amilo.cenkes.org (ppp85-141-135-176.pppoe.mtu-net.ru [85.141.135.176]) (Authenticated sender: sat) by heka.cenkes.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A872242F82C; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:04:56 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:04:54 +0300 From: Andrew Pantyukhin To: Francisco Reyes Message-ID: <20071212180452.GP51627@amilo.cenkes.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT amd64 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Free BSD Questions list Subject: Re: Where is the next uid from adduser pulled from? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:04:58 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 12:00:06PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: > I have scripts to add new users. However, after that any port that installs > a user creates it with a UID after the ones I made. > > For example I want all employees to have uids starting at 5000, but I would > like too port installed uids to be 2000 and up. After I add some users (ie > say last user is 5008), the next port that installs a user and doesn't > specify uid.. then will get 5009. > > Tried looking for the adduser program, but could not find adduser.c It's pw(8) that selects default uids and it just takes the last one (numerically) and uses the next one. Create a placeholder user with uid 5000 and let ports use uids 5000+, but when creating new users, specify uids manually (both pw and adduser allow that). Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 18:18:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6D8916A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDC013C46B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EDB744021; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:18:12 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rE1zZHa-OVnF; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:18:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39353744001; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:18:12 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <476025E1.7020200@icyb.net.ua> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:18:09 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:18:15 -0000 on 12/12/2007 18:58 Andriy Gapon said the following: > on 12/12/2007 15:55 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: >> On Wednesday 12 December 2007 13:13:48 Andriy Gapon wrote: >>> I recently noticed that FreeBSD doesn't prevent tray opening (via a >>> button on CD/DVD drive) even if I mount a CD with ISO 9660 filesystem on >>> it. This at least happens with ATAPI CD drive (acd driver/device). >>> >>> Maybe my memory is failing me but I seem to remember times when mounting >>> a CD locked a tray. Shouldn't this be a more reasonable behavior ? >> Yes, could file a PR? >> >> I see the mentioned behavior for my recent 6-STABLE. > > Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with > various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having atapicam and > hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD change is to blame. > My theory: after I mount some media on acd0, hald wants to "taste" it > through cd0, on opening cd0 device 'prevent' command is sent, on closing > cd0 'allow' is sent, so in the end drive's tray is in unlocked state. > > I don't see any easy resolution for this, but it definitely would be > good to come up with one. > Investigated more and it seems that hald is a main culprit here. Without it everything works reasonably well as long as I don't mix acd and cd accesses. That is, if I mount through acd, then trough cd, then unmount the cd mount, then tray gets unlocked. In a perfect world I would like to fix even this, but in real world this is OK. But if mount only through one device then tray is locked. So, hald is doing something "wrong" here. I am not sure if it is by design (to make the behavior mswindows-like) or if it is a bug or a side-effect of something. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 18:18:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB41816A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:18:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF6A13C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:18:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 29847 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 18:06:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 18:06:23 -0000 Message-ID: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:55:23 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071211-0, 11/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:18:45 -0000 Hello list. I have a question related to sendmail mail.local and /tmp filesystem. The issue came out when I started to receive a lot of messages in /var/log/messages about /tmp filesystem is full. This is the log from system messages: # tail /var/log/messages Dec 12 05:48:41 napstats kernel: pid 7240 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 05:51:31 napstats kernel: pid 7240 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 06:18:32 napstats kernel: pid 7303 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 06:21:23 napstats kernel: pid 7303 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 06:48:45 napstats kernel: pid 7363 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 06:51:35 napstats kernel: pid 7363 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 07:19:00 napstats kernel: pid 7426 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full Dec 12 07:21:50 napstats kernel: pid 7426 (mail.local), uid 0 inumber 11 on /tmp: filesystem full But when I run a df -hi it says 0% of capacity is used on /tmp filesystem. napstats# df -hi Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused Mounted on /dev/ad4s1a 989M 76M 834M 8% 1709 139601 1% / devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% 0 0 100% /dev /dev/ad4s1e 48G 229M 44G 1% 10600 6560406 0% /home /dev/ad4s1d 989M 24K 910M 0% 15 141295 0% /tmp /dev/ad8s1d 226G 85G 122G 41% 213086 30357408 1% /usr /dev/ad4s1f 171G 8.4G 149G 5% 16560 23205710 0% /var from messagess I guess it has something to do with Sendmail. Sometimes I run /top /and sendmail is consuming the most of the processor time. napstats# uname -a FreeBSD napstats.americatelsal.com 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #2: Thu Mar 30 18:13:14 CST 2006 root@napstats.americatelsal.com:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/NAPSTATS amd64 I really want to find out what the problem is. Please can anyone give me some light here? Thank you in advance. Regards!!! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 18:55:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B14516A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:55:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0049613C46E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52247654F2 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:55:43 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:55:42 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:55:44 -0000 --On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:55:23 -0600 Cesar Amaya wrote: > > But when I run a df -hi it says 0% of capacity is used on /tmp filesystem. > > napstats# df -hi > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused > Mounted on > /dev/ad4s1a 989M 76M 834M 8% 1709 139601 1% / > devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% 0 0 100% /dev > /dev/ad4s1e 48G 229M 44G 1% 10600 6560406 0% /home > /dev/ad4s1d 989M 24K 910M 0% 15 141295 0% /tmp > /dev/ad8s1d 226G 85G 122G 41% 213086 30357408 1% /usr > /dev/ad4s1f 171G 8.4G 149G 5% 16560 23205710 0% /var > > from messagess I guess it has something to do with Sendmail. Sometimes I > run /top /and sendmail is consuming the most of the processor time. > napstats# uname -a > FreeBSD napstats.americatelsal.com 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #2: > Thu Mar 30 18:13:14 CST 2006 > root@napstats.americatelsal.com:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/NAPSTATS amd64 > > I really want to find out what the problem is. > Please can anyone give me some light here? > What does # du -h /tmp and # fstat | grep "/tmp" tell you? -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 19:07:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B94B16A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA7A13C43E for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBCJ5rXG022275; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBCJ5rQB022272; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:53 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:53 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Alex Zbyslaw In-Reply-To: <47600D2B.70306@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <20071212120214.C22244@wonkity.com> References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> <47600D2B.70306@dial.pipex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:07:51 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> Like AdblockPlus. > > According to it's web pages "*Note*: It is recommended to use at least > Firefox 2.0, Thunderbird 2.0, SeaMonkey 1.1 or Songbird 0.2. Older versions > receive less testing and support for them is likely to be dropped in a few > months." > > The other schemes mentioned in this thread (hosts, DNS, squid) work with any > and every web browser. The OP already said he doesn't use Firefox. Guess I missed that. Having tried 127.0.0.1 entries in /etc/hosts and squid in an company setting, Adblock is so much easier that I don't want to think about going back. It may be possible to use an Adblock "subscription" to update a squid setup. That would provide the best of both. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 19:32:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD73616A41B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbe2@bayou.com) Received: from smtp.bayou.com (smtp.bayou.com [209.209.192.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC4E13C468 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbe2@bayou.com) Received: from bayoucshaffer (firewall.bayou.com [209.209.192.219]) by smtp.bayou.com (8.12.8/8.12.6) with SMTP id lBCJWWkZ031595 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:32:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from mbe2@bayou.com) Message-ID: <002201c83cf5$2948a560$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer> From: "Mark Evans" To: References: <005901c8313f$f7048b70$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer><474CA49D.50306@FreeBSD.org><002001c831d5$80ad8670$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer><003101c831da$a405bc50$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer><20071129122043.A9040@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><20071129084244.eaba6f7a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20071129154230.5ba29b43@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:28:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.49 on 209.209.192.40 Cc: Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:32:34 -0000 this program seems to have the same issues with it. Thanks Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "cpghost" To: "Bill Moran" Cc: "Wojciech Puchar" ; ; "Mark Evans" Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:42 AM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:42:44 -0500 > Bill Moran wrote: > >> In response to Wojciech Puchar : >> >> > > ls | wc >> > >> > strange. i did >> > >> > [wojtek@wojtek ~/b]$ a=0;while [ $a -lt 10000 ];do mkdir >> > $a;a=$[a+1];done >> > >> > completed <25 seconds on 1Ghz CPU >> > >> > ls takes 0.1 seconds user time, ls -l takes 0.3 second user time. >> > >> > unless you have 486/33 or slower system there is something wrong. >> >> Another possible scenario is that the directory is badly fragmented. >> Unless something has changed since I last researched this (which is >> possible) FreeBSD doesn't manage directory fragmentation during use. >> If you're constantly adding and removing files, it's possible that >> the directory entry is such a mess that it takes ls a long time to >> process it. > > Yes, that's also possible. But sorting is really the culprit here: > it *is* possible to create a directory with filenames in such a way > that it triggers Quicksort's O(N^2) worst case instead of O(N log N). > > The following Python (2.5) program calls "ls -lf" and sorts its output > with Python's own stable sort() routine (which is NOT qsort(3)). On a > directory with 44,000 entries, it runs orders of magnitude faster than > "ls -l", even though it has to use the decorate-sort-undecorate idiom > to sort the output according according the filename, and it is > interpreted rather than compiled! > > I guess that replacing qsort(3) in > /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/fts.c:fts_sort() > with another sort algorithm which doesn't > expose this anomaly would solve that problem. > > --------------------- cut here ------------------ cut here ------------ > > #!/usr/bin/env python > # sortls.py -- sort output of ls -lf with python's stable sort routine. > > import os > > def sort_ls_lf(path): > "Sort the output of ls -lf path" > os.chdir(path) > lines = os.popen("ls -lf", "r").readlines() > dsu = [ (line.split()[-1], line) for line in lines ] > dsu.sort() > return ''.join(tupl[1] for tupl in dsu) > > if __name__ == '__main__': > import sys > if len(sys.argv) < 2: > print >>sys.stderr, "Usage:", sys.argv[0], "path" > sys.exit(1) > path = sys.argv[1] > > try: > print sort_ls_lf(path) > except IOError: > pass # silently absorb broken pipe and other errors > > --------------------- cut here ------------------ cut here ------------ > > Regards, > -cpghost. > > -- > Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 > 5:32 AM > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 20:08:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0620016A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:08:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965F913C467 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:08:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 45909 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 20:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 20:22:51 -0000 Message-ID: <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:11:33 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071211-0, 11/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:08:33 -0000 Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:55:23 -0600 Cesar Amaya > wrote: >> >> But when I run a df -hi it says 0% of capacity is used on /tmp >> filesystem. >> >> napstats# df -hi >> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity iused ifree %iused >> Mounted on >> /dev/ad4s1a 989M 76M 834M 8% 1709 139601 1% / >> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% 0 0 100% /dev >> /dev/ad4s1e 48G 229M 44G 1% 10600 6560406 0% >> /home >> /dev/ad4s1d 989M 24K 910M 0% 15 141295 0% /tmp >> /dev/ad8s1d 226G 85G 122G 41% 213086 30357408 1% /usr >> /dev/ad4s1f 171G 8.4G 149G 5% 16560 23205710 0% /var >> >> from messagess I guess it has something to do with Sendmail. Sometimes I >> run /top /and sendmail is consuming the most of the processor time. >> napstats# uname -a >> FreeBSD napstats.americatelsal.com 6.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE #2: >> Thu Mar 30 18:13:14 CST 2006 >> root@napstats.americatelsal.com:/usr/src/sys/amd64/compile/NAPSTATS >> amd64 >> >> I really want to find out what the problem is. >> Please can anyone give me some light here? >> > What does # du -h /tmp and # fstat | grep "/tmp" tell you? > napstats# du -h /tmp 2.0K /tmp/.snap 2.0K /tmp/.X11-unix 2.0K /tmp/.ICE-unix 2.0K /tmp/.font-unix 2.0K /tmp/.XIM-unix 2.0K /tmp/dynamic 24K /tmp napstats# fstat | grep "/tmp" www httpd 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1739 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1739 20 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1739 21 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1738 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1738 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1738 20 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1738 21 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1737 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1737 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1737 20 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1737 21 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1736 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1736 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1736 20 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1736 21 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1735 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1735 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1735 20 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1735 21 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 w www httpd 1733 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw www httpd 1733 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw root httpd 1640 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw root httpd 1640 16 /tmp 6 -rw------- 0 rw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 20:25:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B574D16A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7768413C459 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:25:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2007 15:25:16 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JLG05601; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2007 15:24:05 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:25:07 -0500 To: Cesar Amaya In-Reply-To: <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:25:17 -0000 Cesar Amaya writes: > napstats# fstat | grep "/tmp" > www httpd 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw Can you afford to shut down the web server (Apache ?)? Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 20:31:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E20816A468 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DBB13C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so221529nzf.13 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=IEBCQukWtREQ4zl5LOBGmWxeGuR3LTies9zrJm7NmA0=; b=uP9Dl6zWC0HW2tYLBKFjjAJYrnAXcR0HlxpnM/5IbD+SJTQqd0mRR0WtsjmDHtzy5fOfqQuFduR00qWnWIddHnPjJuqltAQU7mJen3U7upv9Jwc45sNiJGdWI+NwGAxmTNa0DXDP6Yax2bhnTQ1IMxgPQwKRTwv0+kF91zQoweE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iT4+wxSi4Kb21uc+Jqvy5BgsyBjf7JwxtqDTvxrjnnfTG4u27pJ87s/oa/66Z1E79xc96QFfcPoM3QgWP9XBE5P2EaAgYidexOQEn75DgtKNG45Q+MnbwtkgZKyrXtkJc2+NboFe0YXhQ/gye9G/Ri+Ie4BTUgnEHiPLnQdx+SA= Received: by 10.114.124.1 with SMTP id w1mr1237137wac.131.1197491471920; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.167.7 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:31:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:31:11 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "User Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:31:13 -0000 Hi, I'm working on setting up a server for both WWW and e-mail. We're using apache 2.2 w/PHP support (for phpWebSite) and for e-mail I'd like to stay with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that will allow for POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those here who've used them? thanks, Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 20:51:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE05316A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73B813C4EC for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 7CD3A6108; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brick.slightlystrange.org (brick.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D225F60E8 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by brick.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lBCKpcqD011588 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:38 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:38 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: User Questions Message-ID: <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: User Questions References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:51:42 -0000 --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 01:31:11PM -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I'm working on setting up a server for both WWW and e-mail. We're using > apache 2.2 w/PHP support (for phpWebSite) and for e-mail I'd like to stay > with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that will allow = for > POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those here > who've used them? dovecot is excellent - easy setup, stable and reliable, provides IMAP and POP support and works well with e.g. squirrelmail. It's not as full featured as the Cyrus or courier IMAP servers, but if you don't need shared mailboxes etc, it's definitely worth a look. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYEnZixf5fBYiFmoRAv7WAKDVfmh5NM2JLcnn9kemT1is4J0wugCfdOL7 E7jDQX2dBbwLBmeqQtGoFUk= =F047 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:02:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E872816A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E5013C45A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1031143pyb.3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:01:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YG3KCidf1pf8VLLqUFfC3Mj1/o819Ylhqz5mheIcvbk=; b=qiDgwU9qqfCX8cxYa3yuTAAJUJCbAIDhWmidft+pABisdu3zSrJk8YAAENOlGyM+8TUxCHqZk/rxYyr5ncb8J9nIX2F2cKHWFqTVRfdLOfpWtUlClaDAuSbC8cX8awd/wSexTJOlqO7nJ3inIMm5h+p0DnEI6JOtxmS0rngK7qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dPLnLYqZNEA6l8Z6e4amv9evq5cH1Ieha0J8CZk18PdSbWou4h0myhiF7mVRqsMXBRFk8oLNetPGbhQJ8ZR/Fl2tnofo9Nj3qrSC7zEX8LoC0NBrDeBWqZVZN+ZCcj4rpy7lcLtkFRH345x2CNSma1wNaMMlyraOTvcMQDc9zpo= Received: by 10.35.131.13 with SMTP id i13mr1235914pyn.50.1197491709500; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.11.9 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:35:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:35:09 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:02:06 -0000 Hi, I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under FreeBSD 6.2. When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.1, but could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up and running, i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the generic kernel, So the most should be in there? Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. /Regards Goran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:05:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E567D16A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7DD13C4E3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:05:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 53698 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 21:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 21:19:44 -0000 Message-ID: <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:08:50 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Huff References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071211-0, 11/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Paul Schmehl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:05:28 -0000 Robert Huff wrote: > Cesar Amaya writes: > > >> napstats# fstat | grep "/tmp" >> www httpd 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw >> > > Can you afford to shut down the web server (Apache ?)? > > > Robert Huff > > Nothing is shown if I shut down the web server. But I saw something weird when I run # fstat | grep "/tmp", was something like this: mail.local 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 73917491734 rw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:08:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D187016A41A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9079813C465 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1036292pyb.3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:08:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jB05p4uWe6YxDuOCawSLwbhWYuvFFFhkLaoG7Xj7R08=; b=YITOAGw4nc0wQbwAYO0Gx+qKLTgoqTlfbx8XXBwu60dA2hRveWgCWrOyZqDglLgVG59tVHPH8PwEuQdKRmWAuIESvLKe7anBQi1TsYCK6n8Nnr8U6unV1UTJ3yfoBeUCgC7DKM9m6ic095yzpoEaXVNtPMVEE7l52ltaov9K/lQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MJtZbLBTRBeZY2dlHI+iCTlAjTIX/dy3mGTnGuyoA/SeN3GRtyGYJyDFYKd2C826yWqVUKchrxku2PROEOE0Xg+qsK/qWGwQ3bEzKzB2+E4e5zMG9p3bG+xlWlk5RXc3Ev0Xsd8BDhxuGnmnss/vdwEeAtKexzfok0Z3Xi5rllI= Received: by 10.65.205.16 with SMTP id h16mr2499028qbq.31.1197493693874; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e16sm2927495qbe.2007.12.12.13.08.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:08:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47604DBB.9040305@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:11 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com> <475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop> <475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop> <475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop> <475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com> <20071211184046.GA8175@kobe.laptop> <475EDCAE.90907@gmail.com> <20071211205125.GA1455@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20071211205125.GA1455@kobe.laptop> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:08:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-11 13:53, "Aryeh M. Friedman" > wrote: >> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> You still haven't shown us: >>> >>> * How your local rc system starts Sendmail >> Until I can get it right from the command line I am not going to >> include it in my /etc/rc thus currently there is none >> >>> * The active Sendmail processes you have now >> Except for the one I start (with the below command line) before >> sending there is none running. > > Then you need to replicate what `/etc/rc.d/sendmail' does. You > have the code to that script, you also have `/etc/defaults/rc.conf' > as a guide of the defaults supported by FreeBSD. Happy hacking :) > > I'm not interested in rewriting `/etc/rc.d/sendmail' from scratch, > so other than a few pointers like the following, I'm out of the > thread: > >> here is the complete transcript of my last attempt to actually >> send something: [...] > >> monster-freebsd# sendmail -bd -q1m > > Here you started a sendmail process which listens for connections > to *all* interfaces. That's probably ok if you plan to accept > incoming SMTP connections on _any_ interface, i.e. because you are > running a Sendmail server accessible from outside. > > On my laptop this would be replaced by: > > /usr/sbin/sendmail -L smtpd -bd -q30m \ > -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost > > Note the use of the -O flag to make sure Sendmail is only listening > on the localhost:25 port for mail submission requests. > > Then you have to start a *second* Sendmail instance, to flush the > local `clientmqueue' and forward the messages you see as `Deferred' > when you run the `mailq -Ac' command: > >> monster-freebsd# mailq -Ac /var/spool/clientmqueue (8 requests) - >> -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- - >> ------------Sender/Recipient----------- lBAEQDUM077228 9 >> Mon Dec 10 09:26 aryeh (Deferred: Connection refused by >> [127.0.0.1]) aryeh@gmail.com > > Now you have to run a second Sendmail instance, i.e. with: > > /usr/sbin/sendmail -L mailq -Ac -q10m > > NOTE: The `smtpd' and `mailq' arguments to the -L options are not > the standard names FreeBSD assigns to these processes. They are > just the ones I use on my laptop. > > Since you are using a custom, local sendmail startup script, that's > about the best I can write to get you kickstarted. For more help > with the way Sendmail operates, you can always refer to the > ``Sendmail(TM) Installation and Operation Guide''. A copy of the > guide is conveniently installed by the FreeBSD installation process > at: > > /usr/share/doc/smm/08.sendmailop/* > > Good luck with the startup scripts. I don't really understand why > you insist on rewriting something which works(TM), is featureful > and easy to extend, like the rc.d scripts, but that's besides the > point :-) > > - Giorgos > > > > Above still does nothing: monster-freebsd# /usr/sbin/sendmail -L smtpd -bd -q30m - -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost monster-freebsd# /usr/sbin/sendmail -L mailq -Ac -q10m monster-freebsd# mailq -v WARNING: local host name (monster-freebsd) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I? /var/spool/mqueue (2 requests) - -----Q-ID----- --Size-- -Priority- ---Q-Time--- - --------Sender/Recipient-------- lBCKovjf051782 10 30377 Dec 12 15:50 (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) lBCKovjh051782 9 30380 Dec 12 15:50 (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) (Deferred: 421 Connection not accepted at this time) Total requests: 2 monster-freebsd# tail -f /var/log/maillog Dec 9 09:15:38 newsyslog[587]: logfile first created Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-mta[720]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Dec 9 09:15:38 sm-msp-queue[724]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-mta[729]: starting daemon (8.14.2): SMTP+queueing@00:30:00 Dec 9 12:22:28 sm-msp-queue[733]: starting daemon (8.14.2): queueing@00:30:00 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHYE27zIOMjAek4JIRAvzyAKCkTFuxsbH37S+JZCeG0dSwTFO98ACfWjcd VVP9Rwa6pJ1oA6rLpBfUIdU= =uFO1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:10:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1339116A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:10:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RD=eea80e9f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BA213C469 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RD=eea80e9f@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3D5D0501 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:10:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:10:15 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071212211015.439a673a@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071212120214.C22244@wonkity.com> References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> <47600D2B.70306@dial.pipex.com> <20071212120214.C22244@wonkity.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:10:24 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:53 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wrote: > It may be possible to use an Adblock "subscription" to update a squid > setup. That would provide the best of both. There's no need to do that, you can use a script like adzapper with squid. It's in ports (www/adzap), so you can pickup a new default rule file with port updates. And you can define additional rules and exceptions. The only thing I had to set was some exceptions for sites, I don't mind seeing adds for. There's at least one other add blocking squid redirector in ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:13:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E3716A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B7B13C458 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:13:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B856BB9C94A7; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:13:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.92] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J2Ytx-00039l-00; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:13:57 +0100 Message-ID: <47604F54.6020204@web.de> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:15:00 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dmw@unete.cl References: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> In-Reply-To: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19Lr9yu7xzGW8nNxgr+v85WPRc0bsmEBLmG9s/R DgrLyQY2Mc+3LLP8mz25AUe/woK0rzQ7GUXU/UOux+Il0bAuX9 TZsnykUm0= Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: RELENG_7 and diablo-jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:13:59 -0000 Daniel Molina Wegener schrieb: > Hello, > > ¿Is there any problem if I run diablo-jdk-1.5_07 under RELENG_7? > I mean, ¿is the diablo-jdk binary compatible with RELENG_7? > > Thanks in advance... > for me, java apps always segfault under releng_7. They never did under releng_6. Have not found out yet why.. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:14:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2448D16A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFBBB13C458 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:14:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBCLDgsB011949; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBCLDgaF011948; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:42 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Cesar Amaya Message-ID: <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Paul Schmehl , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:14:15 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 03:08:50PM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > Robert Huff wrote: > >Cesar Amaya writes: > > > > > >> napstats# fstat | grep "/tmp" > >> www httpd 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw > >> > > > > Can you afford to shut down the web server (Apache ?)? > > > > > > Robert Huff > > > > > Nothing is shown if I shut down the web server. But I saw something > weird when I run # fstat | grep "/tmp", was something like this: > > mail.local 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- > 73917491734 rw Looks like something, maybe your mail program has a large file open - maybe trying to receive a huge file. Killing the process could get that file closed and either it would be gone or would finally show how much space it is holding. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:19:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62716A419 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:19:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2797813C4EB for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:19:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 67577 invoked by uid 89); 12 Dec 2007 21:19:13 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 21:19:12 -0000 Message-ID: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:19:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:19:14 -0000 I have a file named file1 which contains some values. I want to replace some strings into it, so I use sed command but I get = an error. sed "s#oldstring#`cut -d, -f3 file2`#" file1 sed: 1: "s/yenidomain2/f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in = regular expression also I get an error with awk command into sed; sed "s#oldstring#`awk -F, '{print$3}' file2`#" file1 sed: 1: "s#yenidomain2#f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in = regular expression From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:29:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EDC616A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate03.web.de (fmmailgate03.web.de [217.72.192.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F11F13C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:29:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate03.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F281DB84E2CD; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:28:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.175.92] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J2Z8F-0000QK-00; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:28:43 +0100 Message-ID: <476052CA.2050802@web.de> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:29:46 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Halid Faith References: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> In-Reply-To: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19S0boFJlLghuwJ09udpwErrPqAoSvmgGKLlO3D Gu7wvui3ob7oA/2R23IY1DO1x9U4Wq/ltrT0kHmhf6opjaZ1it n9ob9AGHo= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:29:30 -0000 Halid Faith schrieb: > I have a file named file1 which contains some values. > I want to replace some strings into it, so I use sed command but I get an error. > > sed "s#oldstring#`cut -d, -f3 file2`#" file1 > > sed: 1: "s/yenidomain2/f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in regular expression > > also I get an error with awk command into sed; > sed "s#oldstring#`awk -F, '{print$3}' file2`#" file1 > sed: 1: "s#yenidomain2#f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in regular expression > Sure you know what you are doing? You are giving probably various linefeeds to your substitution (assuming file2 has more than one line). E.G. 'awk <...> file2' produces as many lines as there are in file2. But the substitution in sed has to be a string-like expression with no line feeds. There for the "unterminated substitution" error. Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:35:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED2616A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4E213C447 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94286860065A; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:36:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PMFq8okatPsN; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 8ACB968600612; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:36:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:36:42 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071212213642.GA9443@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:35:30 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007, Halid Faith wrote: >I have a file named file1 which contains some values. >I want to replace some strings into it, so I use sed command but I get an error. > >sed "s#oldstring#`cut -d, -f3 file2`#" file1 > >sed: 1: "s/yenidomain2/f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in regular expression > >also I get an error with awk command into sed; >sed "s#oldstring#`awk -F, '{print$3}' file2`#" file1 >sed: 1: "s#yenidomain2#f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in regular expression The ``cut -d...` may well be biting you with multiple lines or extra line feeds. You might see the problem by prefixing your command with ``echo'' to see what it's actually doing. echo sed "s#oldstring#`cut -d, -f3 file2`#" file1 I usually do more complex substitutions with short python or perl scripts as (a) they use a common regular expression syntax, and (b) I find the code cleaner (at least the python :-) Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Scientists are explorers. Philosophers are tourists. -- Richard Feynman From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 21:51:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F8316A420 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4C113C448 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:51:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B01654FD for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:03 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:51:03 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <8CAEB1F9ED3E20FDF781FC2C@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:51:04 -0000 --On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 16:13:42 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 03:08:50PM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > >> Robert Huff wrote: >> > Cesar Amaya writes: >> > >> > >> >> napstats# fstat | grep "/tmp" >> >> www httpd 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- 0 rw >> >> >> > >> > Can you afford to shut down the web server (Apache ?)? >> > >> > >> > Robert Huff >> > >> > >> Nothing is shown if I shut down the web server. But I saw something >> weird when I run # fstat | grep "/tmp", was something like this: >> >> mail.local 1739 15 /tmp 4 -rw------- >> 73917491734 rw > > Looks like something, maybe your mail program has a large file open - > maybe trying to receive a huge file. Killing the process could get > that file closed and either it would be gone or would finally show > how much space it is holding. > Yep. Trying to stuff a 73GB file into a 1GB filesystem isn't going to work very well. At this point I think your only option is to restart the mailserver. Hopefully that will release the file from memory. Then you can delete whatever pieces of it are left in /tmp. I'd also look at your maillog to see what the filename and type of that message was (huge zip attachment?) and suggest to your user that he get the file some other way. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 22:02:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D376016A46B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee_shackelford@dot.ca.gov) Received: from trmx001.dot.ca.gov (svhqsacsmtp01.dot.ca.gov [149.136.17.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC34C13C4F7 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:02:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee_shackelford@dot.ca.gov) To: questions@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Lee Shackelford Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:43:20 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on SACSMTP01/SVR/Caltrans/CAGov(Release 6.5.6FP2|October 17, 2007) at 12/12/2007 14:01:34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: Realtek ALC262 and Via ENVY24 sound cards for rel. 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:02:52 -0000 Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. For FreeBSD release 6.2, does anyone know if there is any simpler way of using sound cards containing either a Realtek ALC262 chip or a Via ENVY24 chip than installing the Linux emulator, and then using the alsa a.p.i.? Many thanks. Yours truly, L e e _ S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 22:08:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC58016A417 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E7413C45A for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 63514 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2007 22:22:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 12 Dec 2007 22:22:28 -0000 Message-ID: <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:11:24 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071211-0, 11/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Paul Schmehl , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:08:10 -0000 > Looks like something, maybe your mail program has a large file open - > maybe trying to receive a huge file. Killing the process could get > that file closed and either it would be gone or would finally show > how much space it is holding. > > ////jerry > > I even restarted the server but the problem is still there. this is what I got every amount of time (not always). root mail.local 8987 3 /tmp 4 -rw------- 616886272 rw I don´t understand why mail.local is gathering a file that big From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 22:19:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A908816A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:19:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D1213C4E7 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBCMJ3e1012184; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBCMJ3rU012183; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:19:03 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Cesar Amaya Message-ID: <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Paul Schmehl , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:19:36 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 04:11:24PM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > > >Looks like something, maybe your mail program has a large file open - > >maybe trying to receive a huge file. Killing the process could get > >that file closed and either it would be gone or would finally show > >how much space it is holding. > > > >////jerry > > > > > > I even restarted the server but the problem is still there. > this is what I got every amount of time (not always). > > root mail.local 8987 3 /tmp 4 -rw------- 616886272 rw > > I don´t understand why mail.local is gathering a file that big Apparently someone out there keeps trying to resend that awful huge mail file, so whenever you restart, it gets stuck in that same condition. If you can track down the source of the file, either nuke it or block it. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 22:21:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01B116A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA9E13C442 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E457654FD for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:21:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:21:39 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <9D7B89C7AF41DF2147450CC5@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:21:41 -0000 --On Wednesday, December 12, 2007 16:11:24 -0600 Cesar Amaya=20 wrote: > >> Looks like something, maybe your mail program has a large file open - >> maybe trying to receive a huge file. Killing the process could get >> that file closed and either it would be gone or would finally show >> how much space it is holding. >> >> ////jerry >> >> > > I even restarted the server but the problem is still there. > this is what I got every amount of time (not always). > > root mail.local 8987 3 /tmp 4 -rw------- 616886272 rw > > I don=C2=B4t understand why mail.local is gathering a file that big > > Yikes! Looks like whatever that message is is being retried by the sending = MTA. Perhaps you could try deleting the message from the queue. (I assume = it will sit in there until delivery is successful.) I think, if you shut the mail server down and then restart it later, you're = going to continue to have this problem. You may have to figure out where=20 the message is coming from and try to stop it at the other end. Possibly=20 you could configure your server to reject messages larger than a certain=20 size, then restart it and let it reject it rather than trying to receive=20 it. I know you can do that with Postfix. Don't know about other MTAs. One thing I would do is stop the mail server, wait a minute or two, and=20 then check /tmp. This would positively confirm that the problem is coming=20 from the mail server *if* the problem goes away when the server is stopped. --=20 Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 12 23:53:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA7316A418 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:53:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB9013C442 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 76968 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 00:07:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 00:07:46 -0000 Message-ID: <47607527.80104@123.com.sv> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:56:23 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071212-0, 12/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Paul Schmehl , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:53:28 -0000 > > Apparently someone out there keeps trying to resend that awful > huge mail file, so whenever you restart, it gets stuck in that > same condition. If you can track down the source of the file, > either nuke it or block it. > > ////jerry > > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I´m gonna do so. Thank you very much you all guys!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 00:10:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783EB16A41B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413C013C457 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57422 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2beP-0002v5-78 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:10:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 21966 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 01:10:02 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2007 01:10:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 60445 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Dec 2007 01:10:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:10:02 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran?= Nilsson Message-ID: <20071213001002.GA60304@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran?= Nilsson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J2beP-0002v5-78. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1J2beP-0002v5-78 ca009038f00fc155ea1d32b418450361 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:10:06 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > Hi, > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under FreeBSD = 6.2. > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.1, but > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up and runnin= g, > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the generic kernel, > So the most should be in there? >=20 > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. >=20 What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card included with any FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been included in GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have been in 6.2 also. It is quite possible however that Promise provides their own FreeBSD driver for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which version(s) of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or read their documentation where such information can likely be found. --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 00:41:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213B316A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:41:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=bicheng=860469be1@ironport.com) Received: from smtp2-outbound.ironport.com (smtp2-outbound.ironport.com [63.251.108.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1349D13C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=bicheng=860469be1@ironport.com) DomainKey-Signature: s=key512; d=ironport.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=Received:Received:X-MimeOLE:Content-class:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-ID:X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:Thread-Index:From:To:Return-Path: X-OriginalArrivalTime; b=XCTnO/YLiEnozztErJ1eVHW+u+YV8JY41xVWf2VLqUiZX41RttxjWeYI iEC5WkpSvRrbA4xLnfJqjEdayPcqtg==; Received: from vader.ironportsystems.com ([10.1.1.112]) by smtp2-outbound.ironport.com with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2007 16:13:20 -0800 Received: from anakin.ironportsystems.com ([10.1.1.166]) by vader.ironportsystems.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:12 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:12 -0800 Message-ID: <05AEAB71F81AD8408A534E2038630CC203A849FC@anakin.ironportsystems.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Index: Acg9FTDJFkgxAJsOSjO42YPzPFhnMw== From: "Bin Cheng" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2007 00:13:12.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2D76480:01C83D1C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:41:40 -0000 Hello, System can't boot from 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly cd-rom. I downloaded 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly, 7.0- BETA4-i386-disc1 and 7.0-BETA4-i386-disc2 first then burn it on the cd-rom. Any idea? Please let me know. =20 Thank you, Bin Cheng Test Development Engineer IronPort, A Cisco Business Unit 950 Elm Avenue San Bruno, CA 94066 Direct: 650.243.5852 Cell: 650.676.0249 bicheng@ironport.com =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 00:45:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C327A16A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941B713C461 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:45:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBD0iw3V012827; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:44:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBD0ivda012826; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:44:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:44:57 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Cesar Amaya Message-ID: <20071213004457.GA12793@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47607527.80104@123.com.sv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <47607527.80104@123.com.sv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , Paul Schmehl , Robert Huff , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:45:33 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 05:56:23PM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > > > > >Apparently someone out there keeps trying to resend that awful > >huge mail file, so whenever you restart, it gets stuck in that > >same condition. If you can track down the source of the file, > >either nuke it or block it. > > > >////jerry > > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > I´m gonna do so. > > Thank you very much you all guys!!! One thing you can do is to look in /var/spool/mqueue and see if there are any really large files in there. If there are, that is the one that is messing you up. Delete both the date file and the queue header file. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 00:45:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FBD216A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:45:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48AA13C465 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 68071 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Dec 2007 00:45:34 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 10.821135 secs); 13 Dec 2007 00:45:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 00:45:22 -0000 Message-ID: <4760812D.8070506@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 19:47:41 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cesar Amaya References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47607527.80104@123.com.sv> In-Reply-To: <47607527.80104@123.com.sv> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:45:35 -0000 >> Apparently someone out there keeps trying to resend that awful >> huge mail file, so whenever you restart, it gets stuck in that >> same condition. If you can track down the source of the file, >> either nuke it or block it. In addition to finding the actual cause of the problem, you may want to consider symlinking /tmp under a larger partition until the problem is resolved. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 00:52:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF0C16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8096013C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BA01AFD179; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 030BA28085; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:52:55 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-a4e44bb000004fb9-6e-47608266aa39 Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id DA69728084; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:52:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Cesar Amaya In-Reply-To: <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:52:53 -0800 References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:52:55 -0000 On Dec 12, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote: > csar@123.com.sv wrote: >> I even restarted the server but the problem is still there. >> this is what I got every amount of time (not always). >> >> root mail.local 8987 3 /tmp 4 -rw------- =20 >> 616886272 rw >> >> I don=B4t understand why mail.local is gathering a file that big > > Apparently someone out there keeps trying to resend that awful > huge mail file, so whenever you restart, it gets stuck in that > same condition. If you can track down the source of the file, > either nuke it or block it. You should add something like this to your sendmail.mc config: define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE', `21000000')dnl ...which will set a maximum message size that your SMTP server is =20 willing to accept. The recommended max size in the RFCs was something =20= like 10 MB, but season to taste. --=20 -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:10:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79E4E16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA8513C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J2cap-0001Xe-9v for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:10:33 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J2cad-0001XM-Ig; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:10:15 -0700 Message-ID: <47608673.60708@math.arizona.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:10:11 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lee Shackelford References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Realtek ALC262 and Via ENVY24 sound cards for rel. 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:10:36 -0000 Lee Shackelford wrote: > Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. For FreeBSD release 6.2, does anyone > know if there is any simpler way of using sound cards containing either a > Realtek ALC262 chip or a Via ENVY24 chip than installing the Linux > emulator, and then using the alsa a.p.i.? Many thanks. Yours truly, L e e > _ S h a c k e l f o r d @ d o t . c a . g o v > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Did you try to compile Open Sound System from ports? I have some Realtek crap and it worked only with OSS. I think that many more devices are supported in 7.0 so you might want to upgrade the system. Check the hardware notes. For the list of supported devices by OSS you can check Open Sound System web-site. They also have a binary package that you can install with pkg_add utility. Package is sometimes updated before the port! Best, Predrag From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:13:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3E816A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EA913C461 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup104.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.104]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBD1CwKi030212 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:13:10 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBD1CqNm002669; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:12:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBD1CnoC002668; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:12:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:12:48 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Halid Faith Message-ID: <20071213011248.GA2602@kobe.laptop> References: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:13:38 -0000 On 2007-12-12 23:19, Halid Faith wrote: > I have a file named file1 which contains some values. > I want to replace some strings into it, so I use sed command but I get an error. > > sed "s#oldstring#`cut -d, -f3 file2`#" file1 > sed: 1: "s/yenidomain2/f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in regular expression That's not enough information to help you in a meaningful manner. * What does `file2' have to do with the replacement strings, and why do you use it? * What are the contents of both files? * What do you want to replace, and what should it be replaced with? > also I get an error with awk command into sed; > sed "s#oldstring#`awk -F, '{print$3}' file2`#" file1 > sed: 1: "s#yenidomain2#f0b2875d- ...": unterminated substitute in regular expression That's not very different from the cut-based command. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:18:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7416A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394D913C442 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 42A6528457; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:18:34 -0500 (EST) To: stevefranks@ieee.org References: <539c60b90712110854p332c3907x4498d65789d9b5c1@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:18:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <539c60b90712110854p332c3907x4498d65789d9b5c1@mail.gmail.com> (Steve Franks's message of "Tue\, 11 Dec 2007 09\:54\:44 -0700") Message-ID: <44abofl7dh.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: is there a port to 'copy' audio from one soundcard to another in realtime? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:18:35 -0000 "Steve Franks" writes: > Say I have multiple usb audio devices, and I want to make a simple > 'mixer' - anyone know how to do that? You could try just using cat(1) to copy between the devices... 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( [97.101.40.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h27sm1244819elf.2007.12.12.17.12.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:12:02 -0500 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:40:55 -0000 We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but what should i pursue? The things that are important to me is: * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much importance to me at this point. Any hints? -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:45:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E647516A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wangyi6854@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6868713C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wangyi6854@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so1234531pyb.3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:45:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0Z50IF1zU3/RxV8GCS7PfBqzsB8ANDu8rMHgoQ9BZUs=; b=wvpMyTch/Sv/3kky3cniuPcgqQgoaIuVzqoNSItuZHqAD9EHQ1MpG4XJQM9IZXxDJJ0ZRM8QJzMzZr/DRwVgbRm23wC3IZu00wYwGYnny6171obLF7CSOIhi4y8cd65dbo9k55SordbUcUxwk6uS9nI0Zyh3PBVMiDmRV/mLlLg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=APSC5bLvAJ9h2rTH/T/986aR9TveVo/Sw4rwTwYkpM+aMi2iXpnuInO1U4KDCbR0YsIgPwYUtLoqKTZDreLNKp0X9PMcRaBn2l7IC29I9m2HXZveEbIDFtVZ8PIUWYPtyRlfb6bnYYcY0khRZqDxHg7IDCqU9WsbeVJliVwHBIE= Received: by 10.142.240.9 with SMTP id n9mr632517wfh.79.1197508731570; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.51.2 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:18:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5ea5cca50712121718j5a5c1964hc7da09a72924bc5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:18:51 +0800 From: "Yi Wang" To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com In-Reply-To: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:45:49 -0000 Try mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt some usb disk doesn't have s1 postfix. On 12/12/07, Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a > FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, > but: > > webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block > > OK, it seemed a good chance the USB drive was formatted with NTFS, so I > tried: > > webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > > Further reading on mount_ntfs suggested that even if I got it to > work, it's not quite what I want: I want read & write access > with compressed files supported. > > dmesg: > umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) > > usbdevs -v > Controller /dev/usb0: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), > Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > Controller /dev/usb1: > addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), > Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 powered > port 2 powered > Controller /dev/usb2: > addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), > Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, External > HDD(0x0702), Western Digital(0x1058), rev 1.04 > port 2 powered > port 3 powered > port 4 powered > > Any help appreciated. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Regards, Wang Yi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:47:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E034F16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76EC13C468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85542383599; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:47:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:47:26 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712121647.29121.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Sten Daniel Soersdal Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:47:34 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007, Sten Daniel Soersdal said: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that > would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). > The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually > means. Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but > what should i pursue? > The things that are important to me is: > > * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. > * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can > be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. > > Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much > importance to me at this point. > > Any hints? SpamAssassin (in the ports tree). It's relatively easy to set up and can be used server wide or on an individual basis. Individuals can also override site-wide settings. Links to setting up with postfix can be found on the postfix site. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:48:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D81D16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3286913C467 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 70479 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Dec 2007 01:48:15 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.763049 secs); 13 Dec 2007 01:48:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 01:48:08 -0000 Message-ID: <47608FE2.20707@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:50:26 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sten Daniel Soersdal References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:48:16 -0000 Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would > reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The > problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. > Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but what should > i pursue? > The things that are important to me is: > > * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. > * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be > filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. > > Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much importance > to me at this point. > > Any hints? No additional maintenance (less user add/delete)?: http://www.postini.com Unfortunately, it's been years since I've used their services so I can't remember if they have the ability to mark and pass. It's a hands-off solution that works. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:53:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B023216A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5446B13C43E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 70702 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Dec 2007 01:53:34 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 7.322211 secs); 13 Dec 2007 01:53:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 01:53:26 -0000 Message-ID: <47609121.4070206@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:55:45 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Beech Rintoul References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <200712121647.29121.beech@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200712121647.29121.beech@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Sten Daniel Soersdal Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:53:38 -0000 >> * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. >> * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can >> be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. >> >> Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much >> importance to me at this point. >> >> Any hints? > > SpamAssassin (in the ports tree). It's relatively easy to set up and > can be used server wide or on an individual basis. Individuals can > also override site-wide settings. Links to setting up with postfix > can be found on the postfix site. I was going to recommend that, but from my experience, there is no real *easy* way to allow users directly to modify their own settings. I am probably wrong though. Another solution (which is also not a do-it-yourself), is http://barracuda.com. We switched from Postini to an internal Barracuda cluster and have never looked back. I might add that I personally run an ancient version of SpamAssassin on my personal box which still works, and I have an upgraded box coming down the pipe. I have no experience with having inexperienced users manage their own account with it though. Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 01:59:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3BB16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468D413C457 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3BD23835A5; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:59:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:59:04 -0900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200712121659.08699.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Sten Daniel Soersdal Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:59:12 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007, Sten Daniel Soersdal said: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that > would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). > The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually > means. Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but > what should i pursue? > The things that are important to me is: > > * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. > * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can > be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. I should also mention that SpamAssassin has exactly such an option and doesn't require any hands on except for an occasional update once set up. > > Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much > importance to me at this point. > > Any hints? Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 02:12:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E58216A469 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C1713C4F2 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E9A1BBFFA8; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id CD35328085; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:54 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 11807130-a6647bb000004fb9-a0-47609525015b Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (cswiger1.apple.com [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id E063D28082; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Chuck Swiger To: Sten Daniel Soersdal In-Reply-To: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:12:53 -0800 References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:12:55 -0000 On Dec 12, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that > would reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). > The problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually > means. Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but > what should i pursue? > The things that are important to me is: > > * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. > * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can > be filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. Install the following: /usr/ports/mail/postfix-policyd-weight /usr/ports/mail/postgrey /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin /usr/ports/security/amavisd-new /usr/ports/security/clamav policyd + postgrey provide rather good, very lightweight initial filtering of email without taking up a lot of memory or resources, and remove a lot of workload, so that the Amavisd+ClamAV+SA combination only has to do virus-scanning and SpamAssassin's expensive Bayesian word-mangling on emails which seem to be legit. Regards, -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 02:36:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A55116A421 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:36:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E995B13C46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 19694 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 02:36:50 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 13 Dec 2007 02:36:50 -0000 Message-ID: <47609A1E.90107@chuckr.org> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:34:06 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <475F7332.2020501@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <475F7332.2020501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: results of ports re-engineering survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:36:51 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > *PLEASE ONLY REPLY TO ME OR -PORTS@* Omigod!! For Gods sake, could you PLEASE not have folks reply to the list! We have been sufficiently bombarded with this already. If you must have the replies public, then send them to freebsd-chat, but plesae stop polluting the list (as you are clearly asking people to do above). > > A few disclaimers: > > Neither I or anyone else is asking for FreeBSD to incorparate any > modifications to the current base system and/or ports collection. If > and when any code is developed from this process it will be committed > using normal commit and review processes. > > The following summary of results is based on my eyeballing of > answers and should not be interpreted as being any sort of > mathematically and/or scientifically valid in any manner. > > Number of responses: roughly 30 > > Summary of results: > > 1. Most respondents stated that both the underlaying OS and the ports > collection are equally important. When a preference was shown it was > for the underlaying OS in most cases. > > 2. On average people tend to interact with the port system once or > twice a week > > 3. The single best aspect of the ports system according to respondents > is dependency tracking when installing new ports > > 4. The single worst aspect of the ports system according to > respondents is dependency tracking when updating or deleting existing > ports > > 5. Most respondents would not change there answers tothe survey if > they where new to FreeBSD > > 6. Almost all respondents would use a new system if it fixed their > personal worst aspect of the current system > > 7. About 50% of respondents would use a new system if it broke the > best aspect of the ports system but fixed the worst aspect > > 8. Length of FreeBSD usage: rough avr. of 8 years with roughly 3 year > std. dev. > > 9. Prefered install method: ports > > 10. Usage roughly evenly spread among desktop, development and servers > > 11. Subsystem ratings (rough avr's): > > UI: 6 > Constancy: 9 > Dependancy tracking: 7 > Record keeping: 9 > Granularity: 9 > > 12. Most users are either sysadmins and/or developers > > Orginial Survey: > > As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at > least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should > remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates > if and when needed vary from ASAP to 10-15 years). I have > volunteered to undertake a feasibility/pilot project to examine what > changes (if any) are needed in the system (for the purposes of this > thread I will not venture any of my own suggestions). I have the > following broad questions for people: > > 1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports > system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)? > > 2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is > the most common interaction you have with it? > > 3. What is the single best aspect of the current system? > > 4. What is the single worst aspect of the current system? > > 5. If you where a new FreeBSD user how would your answers above > change? If you where brand new to UNIX how whould they change? > > 6. Assuming that there was no additional work on your behalf would you > use a new system if it corrected your answer to number 4? > > 7. Same as question 6 but for your answer on question 3? > > 8. How long have you used FreeBSD and/or UNIX in general? > > 9. That is your primary use(s) for your FreeBSD machine(s) (name upto 3)? > > 10. Assuming there is no functional difference what is your preferred > installation method for 3rd party software? > > 11. On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best) please rate the > importance of the following aspects of the ports system? > > a. User Interface > b. Consistency of behaviors and interactions > c. Accuracy in dependant port installations > d. Internal record keeping > e. Granularity's of the port management system > > 12. Please rate your personal technical skill level? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHX3MyzIOMjAek4JIRAqqjAJ9YlNJW9Uqa21yK+sm1IST+KmO7QACfeum+ > 9rhuEkdKX6BKkFZr6WGmbDU= > =jhg0 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 02:47:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306BD16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160E713C44B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeremy.gransden@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so809254waf.3 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:47:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; bh=oe8hxICyL0FDpUevE+q727DzrT0NTn0MZqhP9kzcoZ0=; b=nkpP0kkJ8OfZINbTJJQyFL+xqfsXlZOvGtWssaVXN7lmvzXhxn+qTLDTd8rntx97XQxciv5kI7fKkhBO4rB/wujEOmmDvRfuJzGAaeb0zM+QBdw4EFU+YpGjWvFFk9VRcx2DGWHloK3CE/sahkGNGkFQmb3I2Pjz/+BmenITCGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type; b=BNvWRoQirbTT0ALiFROZG3rWXm8Vp4St5FYeE0AYyUvSRFLCOxn9LKkSomHAcGfTbATjCOcgS4th5TT9n23O8bPHlg9MxuszAVp1bkDOR+Q8MDFLvwfqrBhceoaeM8vNJ4x/iphYwW0elP/MBlC6riT1hG81KBJK76kIfPTyXBo= Received: by 10.114.26.1 with SMTP id 1mr1627699waz.80.1197514041659; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.91.9 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:47:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <87f7f4170712121847g3dfecee9i318ca5811fd319e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:47:21 -0500 From: "Jeremy Gransden" To: "Bin Cheng" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System wont boot from cdrom (was: (no subject)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:47:24 -0000 On Dec 12, 2007 7:13 PM, Bin Cheng wrote: > Hello, > > System can't boot from 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly cd-rom. I downloaded > 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly, 7.0- BETA4-i386-disc1 and 7.0-BETA4-i386-disc2 > first then burn it on the cd-rom. Any idea? Please let me know. > > > Hi, We are going to need much more information then that. How did you burn the cd's? (the files you downloaded are cd images that need to be burned as such). What type of hardware? Is the bios set to boot from cd? Do you have problems booting from other bootable cd's? Please be a little more descriptive when asking questions, and you may get more answers. Also, Please use a more descriptive subject line. Many who read this list will discard any email without a subject. thanks, Jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 03:54:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832B016A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (duane.dbq.yournetplus.com [65.124.230.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B82A13C43E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.hill@yournetplus.com) Received: by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix, from userid 58) id D4D136D446; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:35:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: Reqd:5.0 Hits:0.2 Learn:ham Tests:AWL=0.250 Received: from duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (unknown [192.168.1.1]) by duane.dbq.yournetplus.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11E66D444 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:35:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:35:00 +0000 From: Duane Hill To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213033500.4caeeea8@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> In-Reply-To: <47609121.4070206@ibctech.ca> References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <200712121647.29121.beech@freebsd.org> <47609121.4070206@ibctech.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:54:38 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:55:45 -0500 Steve Bertrand wrote: > I was going to recommend that, but from my experience, there is no > real *easy* way to allow users directly to modify their own settings. > I am probably wrong though. Postfix is running here on a FreeBSD server as a boarder filter server. All bayes and per-user SpamAssassin settings are stored within a MySQL database on our SQL server. The web mail interface is SquirrelMail installed on a different FreeBSD server and has the sasql plugin interfaced to the MySQL server so the customers have control over what they want to set their spam score, whitelist, blacklist, whether they want bayes filtering, whether they want bayes autolearn and so forth. It has been pretty low maintenance. I am in the process of evaluating the possibility of using amavis-new. ------ _|_ (_| | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 04:31:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE8716A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5A413C43E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 76653 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Dec 2007 04:31:26 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.597597 secs); 13 Dec 2007 04:31:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 04:31:19 -0000 Message-ID: <4760B622.5070103@ibctech.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:33:38 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Duane Hill References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <200712121647.29121.beech@freebsd.org> <47609121.4070206@ibctech.ca> <20071213033500.4caeeea8@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> In-Reply-To: <20071213033500.4caeeea8@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:31:28 -0000 Duane Hill wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:55:45 -0500 > Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> I was going to recommend that, but from my experience, there is no >> real *easy* way to allow users directly to modify their own settings. >> I am probably wrong though. > > Postfix is running here on a FreeBSD server as a boarder filter server. > All bayes and per-user SpamAssassin settings are stored within a MySQL > database on our SQL server. > > The web mail interface is SquirrelMail installed on a different FreeBSD > server and has the sasql plugin interfaced to the MySQL server so the > customers have control over what they want to set their spam score, > whitelist, blacklist, whether they want bayes filtering, whether they > want bayes autolearn and so forth. > > It has been pretty low maintenance. I am in the process of evaluating > the possibility of using amavis-new. For myself, I've run a very similar environment with a lot of custom hacked software to integrate it all. The reason I haven't upgraded yet is because I've hacked so much of squirrelmail and other aspects of the setup since 2004 that there will be no way for me to carry things over (easily;) Depending on what way one looks at it, It may be good or bad that I don't really have time to follow what is happening with SPAM prevention in regards to Open Source anymore. I agree that SA/ClamAV/maildrop is an excellent setup, particularly running atop of Qmail with VPOPMail etc. I also have used Sendmail with milters and procmail to do the same thing...extensively. Realistically, it comes down to what the OP wants. I am but one operator in a 'small' ISP. I also manage it's support department. The truth is that once the OP stated that budget wasn't an issue, and he wanted essentially a turnkey solution, the easiest and most cost-effective method that I have learned is outsource it. If you can afford the bandwidth to filter in house, then you can also afford to have a 24*7*1hr support contract with a vendor so your support staff can do some of your work for you (or play games). If you can't afford bandwidth inbound, but still want your help-desk staff and yourself available, outsource to someone or some entity who specializes on only email security so they can filter before the mail touches your network. Otherwise, install/maintain yourself. Understand I am not trying to negate the use/feasibility of any software. I am running with the fact that cost for the OP is no issue. If that is truly the case, then why do it yourself when you can pay someone else who knows better to do it for you? The cost savings on headaches and lost time on downed equipment alone are more than worth it. ...I'm being too business-minded, and too obtuse. Back to figuring out why DBD::mysql won't compile on my legacy FreeBSD box I go... Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 04:41:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE76A16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.64.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3BCE13C4CC for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:41:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 11071 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 04:41:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=wAP9ukolFvavV+RSvy19YN9kN9CETGvWJB2YZvqXs4z6Hnk+6FZezi3+T0UCcYNN8B8Y8flRLhz6U8ziSlZKuXGQLcvyPhrjPe14/5xuESdOD7ok4/H9tktPNdICeewF1DsiR+g90a+KX40OFIvPn3xMSfFShU1Feqtpd0q0AHA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp117.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 04:41:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: iWpxQkcVM1mzfdlryr2KP2d_w7elhb1TWfm7_Km84Dag.6Eudtn4aVB.qeio7Rb_aKYv.feBRw-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <83a69c3afc2408681310e88ad2f9dd80@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: User Questions From: jekillen Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 20:42:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: ntpd configuration file changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:41:24 -0000 Hello: Q: When making changes to ntp.conf it is necessary to restart the server? (I suspect yes) Q: How is that done? (I suspect ntpd reload or restart per rc script.. along the lines of apachectl restart or postfix reload??? Kill -HUP pid ??? ) I am looking at FreeBSD handbook and ntp documentation and have not found the answers. thank you in advance for info Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 05:02:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5FA616A421 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from mx-outbound01.easydns.com (mailout1.easydns.com [205.210.42.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916EF13C4E3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists-fbsd@shadypond.com) Received: from lilypad.shadypond.com (69-12-173-117.static.humboldt1.com [69.12.173.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx-outbound01.easydns.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A2A4823C for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:01:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from slider.shadypond.com (slider.shadypond.com [192.168.1.11]) by lilypad.shadypond.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E203EB856 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:02:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Pollywog To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:01:53 +0000 References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <47609121.4070206@ibctech.ca> <20071213033500.4caeeea8@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> In-Reply-To: <20071213033500.4caeeea8@duane.dbq.yournetplus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712130501.54688.lists-fbsd@shadypond.com> Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:02:07 -0000 On Thursday 13 December 2007 03:35:00 Duane Hill wrote: > > It has been pretty low maintenance. I am in the process of evaluating > the possibility of using amavis-new. I used amavis-new on a Linux system and lost the ability to have per-user settings. I had to go with a systemwide setting and I don't know if amavis allows per-user configuration. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 05:52:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD7316A41B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628F513C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:52:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBD5qg6w041456; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBD5qfv1041455; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:52:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 21:52:41 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: RW Message-ID: <20071213055241.GA41414@thought.org> References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <475EC215.8060004@dial.pipex.com> <475F4209.8080507@pacific.net.sg> <200712120920.46626.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <475F9648.804@pacific.net.sg> <20071212085939.F21510@wonkity.com> <47600D2B.70306@dial.pipex.com> <20071212120214.C22244@wonkity.com> <20071212211015.439a673a@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071212211015.439a673a@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:52:43 -0000 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:10:15PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:05:53 -0700 (MST) > Warren Block wrote: > > > > It may be possible to use an Adblock "subscription" to update a squid > > setup. That would provide the best of both. > > There's no need to do that, you can use a script like adzapper with > squid. It's in ports (www/adzap), so you can pickup a new default > rule file with port updates. And you can define additional rules and > exceptions. The only thing I had to set was some exceptions for sites, > I don't mind seeing adds for. > > There's at least one other add blocking squid redirector in ports. well, thi sounded great until I read "squid". Isn't that something to do with FBSD and Windows? If not, how hard is squid to install; what does it do? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 06:00:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F0316A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9137B13C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:00:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so479524rvb.43 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:00:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TwsdI4/38EREcD6RdoyzanaQI6+N4qZr7STLIKuwjNk=; b=fKnZ9Lv7FajeQmiLw7jlogrORV7aGW3csj36RHNdS1uIcNSPLgoCgIJqtBhoCR6UH3BjQ2gXyCQM/yMPzIoakWVfcKjhwUWetnqxN3t6f1eV8+lFM70Lere3qhNq/xaMewYdcImtYWikFrgSHcoKg5ujom2eNpyZ1qmRGdPLezE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=kWN4BLzDsro7SOz3EmsL1ImS2vjX2WJBdwuOX6V/ElBNQHL/SOZVaR8do95ZcRs0DwxX6P+djz+l6bE7m5Gg4qkaLlSJ3CZirUV51FR6h5jyrr9PqoKjS3g/6A3VlJpfijijUZ1Ox9FDro2I7zs3r8vIXFrHSjLmfSjksJBL9hI= Received: by 10.143.160.1 with SMTP id m1mr656555wfo.10.1197525603992; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.87.9 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:00:03 -0800 From: "Kurt Buff" To: "Sten Daniel Soersdal" In-Reply-To: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:00:04 -0000 On 12/12/07, Sten Daniel Soersdal wrote: > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution that would > reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The > problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means. > Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but what should > i pursue? > The things that are important to me is: > > * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. > * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be > filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. > > Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much importance > to me at this point. > > Any hints? Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first goal. It'll never happen, because fighting spam is an arms race, with new tactics needing to be adopted. As for the second goal, spamassassin along with one of several packages will do well for you - I use Maia Mailguard, but I've heard good things about MailZu with Amavisd-new as well. Others will talk about other packages. It's worth taking a look at each of them to figure out what works for you. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 06:20:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D8C16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: from pearl.ibctech.ca (pearl.ibctech.ca [208.70.104.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE3613C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from iaccounts@ibctech.ca) Received: (qmail 81463 invoked by uid 1002); 13 Dec 2007 06:20:47 -0000 Received: from iaccounts@ibctech.ca by pearl.ibctech.ca by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (spamassassin: 2.64. Clear:RC:1(208.70.104.100):. Processed in 6.758794 secs); 13 Dec 2007 06:20:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.30.110?) (steve@ibctech.ca@208.70.104.100) by pearl.ibctech.ca with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 06:20:40 -0000 Message-ID: <4760CFC3.7060904@ibctech.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:22:59 -0500 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions , Sten Daniel Soersdal Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:20:48 -0000 >> * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. >> * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be >> filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. > Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first goal. It'll > never happen, because fighting spam is an arms race, with new tactics > needing to be adopted. Amen (or Ahem, or what BSDie would say). There will *ALWAYS* be maintenance. If you are not developing new regexs and/or solutions to fight the daily produced techniques that make up SPAM, then you are implementing them. If there is anyone who disagrees, then you likely have not dealt with SPAM in an organization larger than a few thousand dispersed and non-educated users. If you have such, and you have no maintenance, then I beg your pardon. > Others will talk about other packages. It's worth taking a look at > each of them to figure out what works for you. ...agreed. It's also worth taking a look at ALL options, not just 'packages' to "figure out what works for you". Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 06:24:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BDB16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:24:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (mail.geekisp.com [216.168.135.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352BC13C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:24:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from njt@ayvali.org) Received: (qmail 24537 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2007 05:57:58 -0000 Received: from clam.int.geekisp.com (HELO clam.geekisp.com) (192.168.4.38) by mail.geekisp.com with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 05:57:58 -0000 Received: from clam.geekisp.com (njt@localhost.geekisp.com [127.0.0.1]) by clam.geekisp.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lBD5vOBk016638; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from njt@localhost) by clam.geekisp.com (8.14.0/8.14.0/Submit) id lBD5vLWE028260; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:57:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: clam.geekisp.com: njt set sender to njt@ayvali.org using -f Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:57:21 -0500 From: "N.J. Thomas" To: jekillen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213055721.GW7374@ayvali.org> References: <83a69c3afc2408681310e88ad2f9dd80@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83a69c3afc2408681310e88ad2f9dd80@prodigy.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Cc: Subject: Re: ntpd configuration file changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:24:06 -0000 * jekillen [2007-12-12 20:42:47-0800]: > Q: When making changes to ntp.conf it is necessary to restart the > server? According to the ntpd docs, yes. The ntpd configuration docs say this: Ordinarily, ntpd reads the ntp.conf configuration file at startup time in order to determine the synchronization sources and operating modes. > Q: How is that done? On FreeBSD, it is typically done via "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart". > (I suspect ntpd reload or restart per rc script.. along the lines of > apachectl restart or postfix reload??? Kill -HUP pid ??? ) I am > looking at FreeBSD handbook and ntp documentation and have not found > the answers. See the "Using rc under FreeBSD" section of the Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/configtuning-rcd.html It is based on Luke Mewburn's excellent NetBSD rc.d system. See the document, "The Design and Implementation of the NetBSD rc.d system" (PDF) here, it is an excellent read: http://www.mewburn.net/luke/bibliography.html Thomas -- N.J. Thomas njt@ayvali.org Etiamsi occiderit me, in ipso sperabo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 06:47:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9DD16A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A7513C43E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBD6lmWX076588 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:47:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <4760D5C8.2010804@monkeybrains.net> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 22:48:40 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Bertrand References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <4760CFC3.7060904@ibctech.ca> In-Reply-To: <4760CFC3.7060904@ibctech.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Kurt Buff , freebsd-questions , Sten Daniel Soersdal Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:47:49 -0000 Steve Bertrand wrote: >>> * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. >>> * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be >>> filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. > >> Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first goal. It'll >> never happen, because fighting spam is an arms race, with new tactics >> needing to be adopted. > > Amen (or Ahem, or what BSDie would say). There will *ALWAYS* be > maintenance. If you are not developing new regexs and/or solutions to > fight the daily produced techniques that make up SPAM, then you are > implementing them. I have found spam assassin with nightly updates of the helpful (there are other people developing new regexs daily). 48 5 * * * /usr/local/bin/sa-update --channel updates.spamassassin.org && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd restart There are other channels you can subscribe to. Another super helpful bocker is to block all inbound connections from IPs without reverse DNS. Don't forget to virus check your email while you are at it -- there are several packages (clamav is one). And finally, a couple of RBLs added into the mix are helpful. Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 07:23:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1790916A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E164613C461 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-16-204.net-htp.de [89.182.16.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A344A44529 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:16:42 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:25:35 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475E0190.7030909@pacific.net.sg> <20071212211015.439a673a@gumby.homeunix.com.> <20071213055241.GA41414@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071213055241.GA41414@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712130825.35692.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: performance impact of large /etc/hosts files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:23:51 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2007 06:52:41 schrieb Gary Kline: > well, thi sounded great until I read "squid". Isn't that > something to do with FBSD and Windows? If not, how hard is squid > to install; what does it do? You're probably thinking of samba, which is an implementation of the SMB protocol (server-side) for *nix-systems. The operating system using SMB as client is most probably Windows in case you set up a samba server. squid is an HTTP-proxy. Something completely different. And setting it up (at least with a default configuration, which you'll have to adapt) is simply installing the port and starting it. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 07:26:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8AA16A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB82313C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id BB10D1428E9; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:26:19 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8336A1428F4; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:26:17 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Andriy Gapon Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:30:08 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200712130930.08558.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:26:21 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:58:44 Andriy Gapon wrote: > Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with > various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having atapicam and > hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD change is to blame. I have no atapicam in my kernel. Nor hald running. I reproduced it like this: mount /cdrom cdcontrol eject "press the eject key" and the tray will open. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 07:35:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E987F16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:35:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: from pop3.ihlas.net.tr (smtp.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E14013C4E7 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maslak@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 21710 invoked by uid 89); 13 Dec 2007 07:35:42 -0000 X-Mail-Scanner: Scanned by qSheff-II-2.1 (http://www.enderunix.org/qsheff/) Received: from unknown (HELO ihlasnetym) (213.238.150.220) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 07:35:40 -0000 Message-ID: <01bc01c83d5a$bcd907b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> From: "Halid Faith" To: "Giorgos Keramidas" References: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <20071213011248.GA2602@kobe.laptop> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:35:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:35:40 -0000 Let me try to explain I have a file called A which contains variable values as below; file1, abc12 foot1, cba11 boby, def123 ... Also I have another file called B which contains partly valuable values as following; ### file of A begin Server valuable1 Client valuable2 #### the file end I have to assign the first column valuables in A to valuable1 in B and assign second column valuable1 in A to valuable2 in B. Finally I should see as following in a file called C Server file1 Client abc12 Server foot1 Client cba11 Server boby Client def123 How can I do that ? Could you give me a script ? Also does it possible to define two or more variable in for loop as below for i in `cat file1` a in `cat file2` ; do sed -e "s/oldstring1/$i/" -e "s/oldstring2/$a/" done Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 07:41:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4748316A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7E313C468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-76-163.net-htp.de [89.182.76.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE0EA44529 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:34:51 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:43:44 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200712120706.13428.dmw@unete.cl> <47604F54.6020204@web.de> In-Reply-To: <47604F54.6020204@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712130843.44831.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: RELENG_7 and diablo-jdk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:41:59 -0000 Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 22:15:00 schrieb Tino Engel: > for me, java apps always segfault under releng_7. > They never did under releng_6. > Have not found out yet why.. The JDK's hotspot compiler digs pretty deep into the system to compile Java code to machine code and run that dynamically. Because of the new operating system version (and changes it introduced), this simply doesn't work properly anymore without a recompile of the JDK for the current system (I haven't dug deeper into the actual cause of the "brokenness" yet, but the probable cause I could think of is some changes in the kernel system call interface between RELENG_6 and _7, which the JDK uses without going through libc as a wrapper shin which would hide the changes). The workaround is simply to install one of the Sun JDKs from sources directly, using the Diablo JDK only to get a working XSLT-processor (which comes bundled with any JDK and doesn't cause the Diablo JDK to segfault when run), which is required in the bootstrapping process of the compilation of a JDK. After building and installing one of the Sun JDKs, you're free to remove the Diablo JDK; the functionality of the two is equal (AFAICT). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 07:57:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C22816A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:57:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01EF613C46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:57:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from [192.168.1.32] (a89-182-76-163.net-htp.de [89.182.76.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4A1A44529 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:50:15 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:59:09 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712130859.09396.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:57:24 -0000 Am Donnerstag, 13. Dezember 2007 03:12:53 schrieb Chuck Swiger: > Install the following: > > /usr/ports/mail/postfix-policyd-weight > /usr/ports/mail/postgrey Just as an added suggestion: these two (very!) lightweight packages suffice to keep SPAM out of our company pretty much completely. Both are best used to reject mails before they even have to be delivered (in Postfix, this is a sender or recipient restriction, see the websites of the two projects for more details on how to set them up), so as a added bonus, people don't have to scroll through endless lists of mails marked as "***SPAM***". I've had a setup with amavisd-new, spamassassin and clamav on another mail server (basically the same thing Chuck described), but for our current usage, these two are efficient enough not to warrant the upgrade to more powerful hardware (which would be required to run SpamAssassin properly). -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 09:42:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBD316A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:42:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F913C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5BD874401C; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:00 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pRm2moOPvsFv; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:00 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC9E744003; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:00 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4760FE68.60001@icyb.net.ua> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:00 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> <200712130930.08558.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712130930.08558.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:42:03 -0000 on 13/12/2007 09:30 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: > On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:58:44 Andriy Gapon wrote: >> Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with >> various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having atapicam and >> hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD change is to blame. > > I have no atapicam in my kernel. Nor hald running. > I reproduced it like this: > mount /cdrom > cdcontrol eject I don't think you reproduced it. Why would you execute the above command unless it is your intention to eject the disk ? I am talking about something else, disk is ejected even if my cat accidentally touches eject button and he is not smart enough to type any commands on console :-) Well, I don't have a cat, it's just a figure of speech. > "press the eject key" and the tray will open. > > Nikos > -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:10:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3410D16A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:10:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA8B13C45A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:10:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 1002) id B87251C8447; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:09:59 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on wmail.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7-deb Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDF51C843B; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:09:46 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Andriy Gapon Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:13:36 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712130930.08558.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <4760FE68.60001@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <4760FE68.60001@icyb.net.ua> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712131213.37478.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:10:02 -0000 On Thursday 13 December 2007 11:42:00 Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 13/12/2007 09:30 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: > > On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:58:44 Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with > >> various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having atapicam > >> and hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD change is to > >> blame. > > > > I have no atapicam in my kernel. Nor hald running. > > I reproduced it like this: > > mount /cdrom > > cdcontrol eject > > I don't think you reproduced it. Why would you execute the above command > unless it is your intention to eject the disk ? You got it wrong. cdcontrol *does not* eject the disk, it works correctly, as it should. cdcontrol never ejects mounted media. It triggers the situation where I can then press the eject key on the cdrom and really eject the cdrom. > I am talking about something else, disk is ejected even if my cat > accidentally touches eject button and he is not smart enough to type any > commands on console :-) Well, I don't have a cat, it's just a figure of > speech. Nevertheless ejecting a mounted medium is wrong. And that's not a feature. This is obviously a problem, regardless of how you trigger it. Would you like to file a PR? Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:18:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19FC16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:18:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3757813C4E5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:18:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4159374401C; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:18:46 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fjSKkYo-Z62d; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:18:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A579744003; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:18:46 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47610705.90100@icyb.net.ua> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:18:45 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712121555.24953.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <47601344.8020106@icyb.net.ua> <476025E1.7020200@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <476025E1.7020200@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome@FreeBSD.org, kde@freebsd.org, Nikos Vassiliadis Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:18:48 -0000 on 12/12/2007 20:18 Andriy Gapon said the following: [trimmed] > Investigated more and it seems that hald is a main culprit here. Without > it everything works reasonably well as long as I don't mix acd and cd > accesses. > That is, if I mount through acd, then trough cd, then unmount the cd > mount, then tray gets unlocked. In a perfect world I would like to fix > even this, but in real world this is OK. > But if mount only through one device then tray is locked. > > So, hald is doing something "wrong" here. I am not sure if it is by > design (to make the behavior mswindows-like) or if it is a bug or a > side-effect of something. Okey, I think I got it finally. There is a capability for ATAPI devices that I didn't know about before: there is a possibility to poll a device and check if physical eject button was pressed while tray was locked with "prevent" command. Hald does just this and then posts "EjectPressed" event. When KDE mediamanager gets this notification it tries to do various stuff which should ultimately lead to unmounting media in the device and ejecting the tray. This seems to work reasonably well if KDE knows something the mount, but this works miserably otherwise. Examples: 1. atapicam is enabled and media is manually mounted via acd device 2. media is mounted via user-land fuse-based filesystem driver In these cases "KDE" simply issues eject command and the drive is only happy to oblige. I wish that there was a way in KDE to configure handling of such events where I could select one of the following: 1. ignore eject button press 2. give me a notification about it but do not do anything 3. give me a dialog asking how to proceed 4. try to unmount media and eject tray but don't eject if proper unmount could not be done (unknown fs, etc) And, of course, if device was not locked (via prevent) for reasons of mounting media or otherwise opening device file or explicit command, then a drive itself should handle the button. It should not be "artificially" prevented from doing so. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:28:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6461A16A46E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D65113C46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798E3744003; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:28:40 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MGbYkqM2xojx; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:28:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347CC43C025; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:28:40 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47610957.8020800@icyb.net.ua> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:28:39 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712130930.08558.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <4760FE68.60001@icyb.net.ua> <200712131213.37478.nvass@teledomenet.gr> In-Reply-To: <200712131213.37478.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:28:43 -0000 on 13/12/2007 12:13 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: > On Thursday 13 December 2007 11:42:00 Andriy Gapon wrote: >> on 13/12/2007 09:30 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: >>> On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:58:44 Andriy Gapon wrote: >>>> Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with >>>> various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having atapicam >>>> and hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD change is to >>>> blame. >>> I have no atapicam in my kernel. Nor hald running. >>> I reproduced it like this: >>> mount /cdrom >>> cdcontrol eject >> I don't think you reproduced it. Why would you execute the above command >> unless it is your intention to eject the disk ? > > You got it wrong. cdcontrol *does not* eject the disk, it works > correctly, as it should. cdcontrol never ejects mounted media. Well, I got it right, it's just that in my opinion you knew what you were doing. > It triggers the situation where I can then press the eject key > on the cdrom and really eject the cdrom. It would be interesting to see what exact ioctls/commands cdcontrol issues. ktrace+kdump can help with this. Assuming your drive is ATAPI (not SCSI) then if only CDIOCEJECT is issued then the drive should not become unlocked. >> I am talking about something else, disk is ejected even if my cat >> accidentally touches eject button and he is not smart enough to type any >> commands on console :-) Well, I don't have a cat, it's just a figure of >> speech. > > Nevertheless ejecting a mounted medium is wrong. And that's not > a feature. This is obviously a problem, regardless of how you > trigger it. Would you like to file a PR? Well, I see your point and probably I would agree 80% with you :-) But this issue seems to be a little bit different from the issue that concerns me most (which I explained in another email). Someone could reply to your problem with that old joke: - Doctor, it hurts when I do this. - Then don't do it. There is not so simple an answer to my issue. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:39:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3FA16A421 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [217.20.163.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A6C13C46A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8180744003; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:39:52 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at falcon.cybervisiontech.com Received: from falcon.cybervisiontech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (falcon.cybervisiontech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Df-CsM0bube; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:39:52 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.2.1.87] (gateway.cybervisiontech.com.ua [88.81.251.18]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by falcon.cybervisiontech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4C143C03D; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:39:52 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47610BF7.8070002@icyb.net.ua> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:39:51 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikos Vassiliadis References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712130930.08558.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <4760FE68.60001@icyb.net.ua> <200712131213.37478.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <47610957.8020800@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <47610957.8020800@icyb.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?B?U8O4cmVuIFNjaG1pZHQ=?= Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:54 -0000 on 13/12/2007 12:28 Andriy Gapon said the following: > on 13/12/2007 12:13 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: >> On Thursday 13 December 2007 11:42:00 Andriy Gapon wrote: >>> on 13/12/2007 09:30 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: >>>> I have no atapicam in my kernel. Nor hald running. >>>> I reproduced it like this: >>>> mount /cdrom >>>> cdcontrol eject >>> I don't think you reproduced it. Why would you execute the above command >>> unless it is your intention to eject the disk ? >> You got it wrong. cdcontrol *does not* eject the disk, it works >> correctly, as it should. cdcontrol never ejects mounted media. > > Well, I got it right, it's just that in my opinion you knew what you > were doing. > >> It triggers the situation where I can then press the eject key >> on the cdrom and really eject the cdrom. > > It would be interesting to see what exact ioctls/commands cdcontrol > issues. ktrace+kdump can help with this. Assuming your drive is ATAPI > (not SCSI) then if only CDIOCEJECT is issued then the drive should not > become unlocked. Tried this myself: 11991 cdcontrol CALL open(0x7fffffffe130,0,0x9) 11991 cdcontrol NAMI "/dev/acd0" 11991 cdcontrol RET open 3 11991 cdcontrol CALL ioctl(0x3,CDIOCALLOW,0) 11991 cdcontrol RET ioctl 0 11991 cdcontrol CALL ioctl(0x3,CDIOCEJECT,0) 11991 cdcontrol RET ioctl -1 errno 16 Device busy 11991 cdcontrol CALL exit(0xffffffff) It is a question for me how atapi-cd should behave on CDIOCALLOW command issued on an opened disk (by something other than the entity doing ioctl, i.e. geom acr > 1). Maybe it should work the same way as for CDIOCEJECT, maybe geom ace should be taken into account somehow. Part of me says: do not allow unlocking tray if something is mounted, the other part says: let user do what he wants. Maybe the easiest solution here is to change cdcontrol to do only CDIOCEJECT without CDIOCALLOW ? -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:41:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FB616A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AEE813C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J2lVN-00080T-A3 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:25 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id lBDAfOS5027860 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:24 GMT Received: (qmail 71115 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Dec 2007 10:41:19 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:19 +0000 To: Halid Faith Message-ID: <20071213104119.GA71105@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <20071213011248.GA2602@kobe.laptop> <01bc01c83d5a$bcd907b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01bc01c83d5a$bcd907b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RC1 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:25 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:30 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:35:29AM +0200, Halid Faith wrote: > > Let me try to explain > I have a file called A which contains variable values as below; > file1, abc12 > foot1, cba11 > boby, def123 > ... > > Also I have another file called B which contains partly valuable values as > following; > ### file of A begin > Server valuable1 > Client valuable2 > #### the file end > > I have to assign the first column valuables in A to valuable1 in B and > assign second column valuable1 in A to valuable2 in B. > Finally I should see as following in a file called C > Server file1 > Client abc12 > > Server foot1 > Client cba11 > > Server boby > Client def123 > > How can I do that ? Could you give me a script ? > > Also does it possible to define two or more variable in for loop as below > for i in `cat file1` a in `cat file2` ; > do > sed -e "s/oldstring1/$i/" -e "s/oldstring2/$a/" > done > > Thanks Have a look at join(1). You should be able to knock something together with join and sed. Personally, I'd use perl for something like this. (Not much help if you don't know perl). -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:53:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AED16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CA313C4CC for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:53:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1052017waf.3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:53:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wX9R7xNJF336XeDbZHBbLscawn8nnSihmURcTuW2bNs=; b=ETkn2enVJboUqCmJGBZAfPdaVicEcNV/DOyGePeI9i0ChBJ3/r3jf8bUK2FyXqkjVFqhV6sW3ZkQ3b09acricQuF7lcn8NvBMwJyTa9pYMDgjl7R8aF/1l4tOljBFDU1Q0LudD9SJgPCb25WaFusN33eHcYnNsWkLZ2FS6oGyrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ksp/6icjCTWy5na5qEI3L062W7hg/J2D/79nk/+uwzc4LODRrSRErK84k1Q4gy/VD/NPNnfGO8+U/3MBInAoxbTZZ0JVWA3uT7nWojjBRC2qU8/Wu7HYchQ5xoHJM1i+HjMh4ru1+WK2D0PCWnGtUDeUVUKgsXd9og7OwLVO9lQ= Received: by 10.114.154.1 with SMTP id b1mr2115285wae.34.1197543184140; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.73.10 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 02:53:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712130253i2a059682i47d2467c2b2d0763@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:53:04 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2949641c0712120218h142369e0l1fd9b05f351a12e6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Connecting networks X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:53:05 -0000 Hi guyz, I'd like to thank all of you. I somehow find the error, there're three errors actually, first, the machine in 192.168.1 network was not using my bsd box as gateway (duh! Thankz Ian), second, I had a error in rc.conf, it had a letter where it was not supposed to have, and third, the pf was blocking everything even with it's config saying it to pass all, and then I'm gonna create another topic about this issue, once the other two are resolved.Thankz again. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 10:58:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E74816A417; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [204.3.153.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CD513C465; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBDAhPdT029119; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:43:25 GMT Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id lBDAhOiv029116; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:43:25 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:43:24 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213103438.O27841@neu.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Skype install problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:58:00 -0000 I'm trying to install Skype on 6.3prerelease, and it is failing thusly: /usr/ports/net/skype]# make install clean ===> Installing for skype-1.2.0.18,1 ===> skype-1.2.0.18,1 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 - found ===> skype-1.2.0.18,1 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 - found ===> skype-1.2.0.18,1 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 in /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri ===> Installing for linux_dri-7.0 ===> linux_dri-7.0 depends on file: /compat/linux/etc/fedora-release - found ===> linux_dri-7.0 depends on file: /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 - found ===> Generating temporary packing list ===> Checking if graphics/linux_dri already installed ===> Warning: your umask is "0077". If this is not desired, set it to an appropriate value and install this port again by ``make reinstall''. /bin/mkdir -p /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/libGL.so.1.2 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/libGLU.so.1.3.070100 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/libdrm.so.2.3.0 /compat/linux/usr/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/libexpat.so.1 /compat/linux/usr/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/i810_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/i915_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/i965_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/mach64_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/mga_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/r128_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/r200_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/r300_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/radeon_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/savage_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/sis_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/tdfx_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux_dri/unichrome_dri.so /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux-libglide/libglide3-v3.so.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux-libglide/libglide3-v5.so.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib /bin/ln -sf libglide3-v3.so.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libglide3-v3.so /bin/ln -sf libglide3-v5.so.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib/libglide3-v5.so install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux-dri-tools/libglut.so.3.7.0 /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/lib install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux-dri-tools/gears /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin/gears install -o root -g wheel -m 555 /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri/work/linux-dri-tools/glxinfo /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo ELF binary type "3" not known. /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/skype. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/net/skype. I have the following installed: linux_base-fc-4_10 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for i386/amd64) Any help would be really appreciated. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 11:08:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E0B16A418; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from noop.in-addr.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:5c0:8fff:fffe::214d]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182FD13C46B; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:08:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpalmer@freebsd.org) Received: from gjp by noop.in-addr.com with local (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1J2lvY-000NPZ-9z; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:08:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:08:28 -0500 From: Gary Palmer To: AN Message-ID: <20071213110828.GC986@in-addr.com> References: <20071213103438.O27841@neu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071213103438.O27841@neu.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype install problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:08:29 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:43:24AM +0000, AN wrote: > I'm trying to install Skype on 6.3prerelease, and it is failing thusly: > [ snip ] > /usr/bin/brandelf -t Linux /compat/linux/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo > ELF binary type "3" not known. > /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/linux_dri. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/skype. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/ports/net/skype. > > I have the following installed: > linux_base-fc-4_10 Base set of packages needed in Linux mode (for > i386/amd64) > > Any help would be really appreciated. Do you have the linux emulation kernel module loaded? If not, and assuming you want to load linux emulation on every boot, put linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf (or /etc.rc.conf.local or something) and run /etc/rc.d/abi start Regards, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 11:08:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E078A16A421 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from wmail.teledomenet.gr (wmail.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630C613C45B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 6A00A1C8629; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:08:46 +0200 (EET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on wmail.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.7-deb Received: from iris (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by wmail.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C1D1C861E; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:08:37 +0200 (EET) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: Andriy Gapon Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:12:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <475FC26C.3030508@icyb.net.ua> <200712131213.37478.nvass@teledomenet.gr> <47610957.8020800@icyb.net.ua> In-Reply-To: <47610957.8020800@icyb.net.ua> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712131312.28148.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mounted cd and tray locking X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:08:48 -0000 On Thursday 13 December 2007 12:28:39 Andriy Gapon wrote: > on 13/12/2007 12:13 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: > > On Thursday 13 December 2007 11:42:00 Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> on 13/12/2007 09:30 Nikos Vassiliadis said the following: > >>> On Wednesday 12 December 2007 18:58:44 Andriy Gapon wrote: > >>>> Hmm. Looked at the code and it should be as expected. Played with > >>>> various stuff and here's what I think: it seems that having > >>>> atapicam and hald and maybe something in KDE that polls for CD > >>>> change is to blame. > >>> > >>> I have no atapicam in my kernel. Nor hald running. > >>> I reproduced it like this: > >>> mount /cdrom > >>> cdcontrol eject > >> > >> I don't think you reproduced it. Why would you execute the above > >> command unless it is your intention to eject the disk ? > > > > You got it wrong. cdcontrol *does not* eject the disk, it works > > correctly, as it should. cdcontrol never ejects mounted media. > > Well, I got it right, it's just that in my opinion you knew what you > were doing. Thanks for the wording... > > > It triggers the situation where I can then press the eject key > > on the cdrom and really eject the cdrom. > > It would be interesting to see what exact ioctls/commands cdcontrol > issues. ktrace+kdump can help with this. Assuming your drive is ATAPI > (not SCSI) then if only CDIOCEJECT is issued then the drive should not > become unlocked. How can this be interesting? cdcontrol does not open the tray. cdcontrol gets an EBUSY and exits. The button does. So, it seems to the - naive - me that the error is somewhere in the kernel. > > Nevertheless ejecting a mounted medium is wrong. And that's not > > a feature. This is obviously a problem, regardless of how you > > trigger it. Would you like to file a PR? > > Well, I see your point and probably I would agree 80% with you :-) > But this issue seems to be a little bit different from the issue that > concerns me most (which I explained in another email). > Someone could reply to your problem with that old joke: > - Doctor, it hurts when I do this. > - Then don't do it. I believe that the "old joke" doesn't apply here. I will file a PR when I'll have available time. Nikos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 11:19:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C37316A421 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5673D13C4CC for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alaorneto@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1065032waf.3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:19:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=9wGorV2SHYtoHs/OP2VkRi7xYLxiqSgqn7ZOFioFp2U=; b=AfV7bV8B0Xr747/qqhkXssqvpbfrMsYanFET9lP73bHQoGlgo0RrHBh09Ul6k+nigaL54tOd3Uplny4j4clEM9fU7lfy/TsfcP7KfbwzdxlRpOm9SGaXV+S0UVE13w38aY2aW+elQtPhFoELaGFpjlP5vqn3sigUk2lN55sI2S0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=vQY6+9M4A8VbBdcd0YD7hQXm9LXqCWkUU+j+U1AT8RGDAGljEHt8JaTJutr3Nb0e1+4xvoijuMgVsHFwp6TXm95U0agPV++mEuOPcqwgWR/4Blcl3WbDR/TgkebD8k8qFMzmTvf+k+vGlGCjSLIY0AU3Xwgc9+5NK6SqZj+r58Y= Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr2098716wam.141.1197544743805; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:19:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.73.10 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:19:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:19:03 -0200 From: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: PF blocking even if set to pass all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:19:04 -0000 Hi guyz, like I've said in other topic, I'm building a BSD box that'll act as a gateway between three private networks and the internet. I want that each private network can ping to each other, and I can do that till I activate my pf firewall. When I do pfctl -e it stop working. The output of pfctl -sr is: pass in all pass out all So I guess it would pass anything, why it isn't happening? Hugs, Alaor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 11:26:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383D116A537 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from iota.fastbighost.com (iota.fastbighost.com [65.98.8.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E983413C44B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ghirai@ghirai.com) Received: from [89.123.61.200] (port=53439 helo=deimos.bsd.nix) by iota.fastbighost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2mCz-00005z-7s; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:25:35 +0200 From: Ghirai To: "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" Message-Id: <20071213132535.194adf58.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> References: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: ghirai@ghirai.com X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iota.fastbighost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ghirai.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PF blocking even if set to pass all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:26:34 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:19:03 -0200 "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" wrote: > Hi guyz, like I've said in other topic, I'm building a BSD box that'll act > as a gateway between three private networks and the internet. I want that > each private network can ping to each other, and I can do that till I > activate my pf firewall. When I do pfctl -e it stop working. > > The output of pfctl -sr is: > pass in all > pass out all > > So I guess it would pass anything, why it isn't happening? > > Hugs, > Alaor > _______________________________________________ You need to specify from/to what interface it should pass (if you have more than one NIC, which i assume you do, since the box is acting as a router). I suggest you read this tutorial/book: http://www.bsdly.net/~peter/pf.html It explains what you want to do in detail. -- Regards, Ghirai. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 12:05:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2873316A418; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:05:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [204.3.153.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EBA13C4D3; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:05:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBDC56gA043042; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:05:06 GMT Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id lBDC56Gx043035; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:05:06 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:05:06 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213115331.F27841@neu.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Skype problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:05:35 -0000 I just installed Skype on 6.3prerelease, and tried to login as an existing user as I had already created an account on a Windoze machine. When I try to login from my BSD box the Skype login window says that its connecting but nothing happens. If I use tcpdump on the interface I can see packets I think are going to Skype but I'm not sure. There does not seem to be much to configure, am I missing something? I also tried to create a new account, but same thing, it says connecting but it never does. I am able to use Skype from a windoze box on the same network. I am behind a firewall, but I let all connections out, so that should not be the problem. Any ideas? TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 12:17:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BB216A49A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C2213C4E7 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:17:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from daniel_k_eriksson@telia.com) Received: from royal64.emp.zapto.org (195.198.193.104) by pne-smtpout1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) id 47556760002E67E2; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:07:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:07:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4F9C9299A10AE74E89EA580D14AA10A61A1866@royal64.emp.zapto.org> In-Reply-To: <47604DBB.9040305@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: smart_host on sendmail min config Thread-Index: Acg9A0btfHqoI2g3TGK0QiyJ0BAx1QAdBmMg References: <24B63B5B-74E3-4F5C-B0C4-D44EBF797966@mac.com><475D5670.1030207@gmail.com> <20071210214254.GA8185@kobe.laptop><475DB713.4060504@gmail.com> <20071211162638.GA16776@kobe.laptop><475ED0A2.7030205@gmail.com> <20071211181032.GA1712@kobe.laptop><475ED62E.1040904@gmail.com><20071211184046.GA8175@kobe.laptop> <475EDCAE.90907@gmail.com><20071211205125.GA1455@kobe.laptop> <47604DBB.9040305@gmail.com> From: "Daniel Eriksson" To: Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Subject: RE: smart_host on sendmail min config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:17:10 -0000 Why are you not using the supplied scripts and configuration knobs to start Sendmail? It works just fine for 99% of FreeBSD users (my guess), so what makes your environment so special that your needs cannot be met without custom scripts? /Daniel Eriksson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 12:53:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7357C16A418; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [204.3.153.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3004013C44B; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:53:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBDCqtrn052409; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:52:55 GMT Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6/Submit) with ESMTP id lBDCqt9n052406; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:52:55 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:52:55 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213124759.Q27841@neu.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Skype problem - followup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:53:24 -0000 I just installed Skype on 6.3prerelease, and tried to login as an existing user as I had already created an account on a Windoze machine. When I try to login from my BSD box the Skype login window says that its connecting but nothing happens. If I use tcpdump on the interface I can see packets I think are going to Skype but I'm not sure. There does not seem to be much to configure, am I missing something? I also tried to create a new account, but same thing, it says connecting but it never does. I am able to use Skype from a windoze box on the same network. I am behind a firewall, but I let all connections out, so that should not be the problem. Any ideas? TIA PS: I see the following coming from tcpdump: 14:46:08.651647 IP amd64X2.foo.bar.59321 > sss1.skype.net.33033: UDP, length 18 14:46:08.833159 IP sss1.skype.net > amd64X2.foo.bar: ICMP sss1.skype.net udp port 33033 unreachable, length 36 14:46:12.702939 IP amd64X2.foo.bar.59321 > 66.235.181.9.33033: UDP, length 18 14:46:12.882231 IP 66.235.181.9 > amd64X2.foo.bar: ICMP 66.235.181.9 udp port 33033 unreachable, length 36 Could this be the problem? If so, is there a fix? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 12:59:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F1216A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:59:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from mail.bdug.org.au (mail.bdug.org.au [202.72.170.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDC213C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulh@bdug.org.au) Received: from w2k2 (w2k2.bdug.org.au [192.168.0.102]) by mail.bdug.org.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3AB8B83E; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:42:06 +0900 (WST) From: "Paul Hamilton" To: "'Sten Daniel Soersdal'" , "'freebsd-questions'" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:42:23 +0900 Message-ID: <17d401c83d85$9c5044b0$6600a8c0@w2k2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Thread-Index: Acg9KVKrIQaFhcdmTMio7pYNl7ybkgAWxwqQ Importance: Normal X-bdug-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-bdug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-bdug-MailScanner-From: paulh@bdug.org.au X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Subject: RE: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:59:12 -0000 Hi Sten, I ran /usr/ports/security/amavisd-new for a year or so. I must admit, I didn't update it so more and more spam made it's way through. A mate tipped me off on trying: /usr/ports/mail/mailscanner Much easier to install than amavisd-new. I found it easier to understand the config file too. If you really get keen, there is a book you can purchase and it has great online help. There is also a nice optional webpage stats port/package:=20=20 /usr/ports/mail/mailscanner-mrtg Now I only have 1 spam getting through every 3 days or so out of 350+ daily spam emails. I now have it running on 4 different sites. Cheers, Paul Hamilton > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of=20 > Sten Daniel Soersdal > Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2007 10:12 AM > To: freebsd-questions > Subject: (postfix) SPAM filter? >=20 >=20 > We have a need for a relatively painless anti-spam solution=20 > that would=20 > reduce the amount of incoming spam (via postfix mail router). The=20 > problem is that i have little knowledge on what this actually means.=20 > Googling reveals a whole "universe" of interesting ways but=20 > what should=20 > i pursue? > The things that are important to me is: >=20 > * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. > * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header=20 > that can be=20 > filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. >=20 > Neither performance, scalability, license nor cost is of much=20 > importance=20 > to me at this point. >=20 > Any hints? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Sten Daniel Soersdal _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=20 > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > --=20 > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 13:43:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACFA16A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F09C13C47E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:43:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2oIv-0002Wa-4X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:40:45 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:40:45 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:40:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:34:51 +0100 Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <20071213124759.Q27841@neu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig40AB460D45FA76E2C6D4246F" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070801) In-Reply-To: <20071213124759.Q27841@neu.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 Sender: news Cc: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Skype problem - followup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:43:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig40AB460D45FA76E2C6D4246F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AN wrote: > PS: I see the following coming from tcpdump: >=20 > 14:46:08.651647 IP amd64X2.foo.bar.59321 > sss1.skype.net.33033: UDP, > length 18 > 14:46:08.833159 IP sss1.skype.net > amd64X2.foo.bar: ICMP sss1.skype.ne= t > udp port 33033 unreachable, length 36 > 14:46:12.702939 IP amd64X2.foo.bar.59321 > 66.235.181.9.33033: UDP, > length 18 > 14:46:12.882231 IP 66.235.181.9 > amd64X2.foo.bar: ICMP 66.235.181.9 ud= p > port 33033 unreachable, length 36 >=20 > Could this be the problem? If so, is there a fix? "unreachable" means you can't connect to the remote endpoint over the network. Try pinging sss1.skype.net. --------------enig40AB460D45FA76E2C6D4246F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHYTUKldnAQVacBcgRAshSAJ0c6qVMpaVYKZqJCo4RhZ75fXH8ggCg+40U 5JlNEbdGPt9KtBtSKkHMlCw= =zGr4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig40AB460D45FA76E2C6D4246F-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 14:34:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE51F16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:34:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1991C13C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (vader.bytemobile-rio.ondsl.gr [83.235.57.37]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBDEXYb4010623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:33:51 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBDEXS9x002154; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:33:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBDEXRoh002153; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:33:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:33:27 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Halid Faith Message-ID: <20071213143327.GB1937@kobe.laptop> References: <015f01c83d04$a1df2b20$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> <20071213011248.GA2602@kobe.laptop> <01bc01c83d5a$bcd907b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01bc01c83d5a$bcd907b0$dc96eed5@ihlasnetym> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.003, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.40, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use cut or awk commands into sed command ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:34:07 -0000 On 2007-12-13 09:35, Halid Faith wrote: > Let me try to explain > I have a file called A which contains variable values as below; > file1, abc12 > foot1, cba11 > boby, def123 > ... > > Also I have another file called B which contains partly valuable values as > following; > ### file of A begin > Server valuable1 > Client valuable2 > #### the file end > > I have to assign the first column valuables in A to valuable1 in B and > assign second column valuable1 in A to valuable2 in B. > > Finally I should see as following in a file called C > Server file1 > Client abc12 > > Server foot1 > Client cba11 > > Server boby > Client def123 > > How can I do that ? Could you give me a script ? Look carefully at the second input file: Server valuable1 Client valuable2 Now look *very* carefully at the output you want: Server file1 Client abc12 Server foot1 Client cba11 Server boby Client def123 Can you imagine a *loop* which reads the input file and creates the second? In `pseudo-code' this would be something like: for each pair of (server, client) from `file1': for each line in `file2': substitute `server' and `client' in `line' print resulting line print an empty line That shouldn't be *too* hard to write in a shell script. Now that you have the outline, see if you have better luck. - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 15:05:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C79D16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ntsetsbold@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DF213C4F4 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ntsetsbold@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so625741rvb.43 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:05:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gvtuewi54UG79zvr3b9U+5WPwTI6v67fHY+nTMAZ+5Y=; b=GX+vEPs7Fuk46LJrET3UOzYH4pO0PSlzVjrPfsGngGcQchvLcA+IhlzcoLHjBnlwmpnnINnFpyMJT310TsIx/NgAPnmHtwcU6j5PXw1McAZB+td6XSne0qUHfyF05G65v8orJKNumLO8EdP0YkaGEbNziYUPshYQVLLjqoZbR4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DwvF1nHt22xR4s4Iy6SWEk9LHELPnHlkSaXJp+mhfQGQFAQF9Snvoqy37SQn807IP4Tw4fxKg2vkU2qZd7l2WT7wthsDpXL3ieFfUWQkvfrLZ/G/GOfLcoLcMGGO545xXW8zaYFaZjsz/9Vte543T9G8Xm2fThag05/wXJW+D1Y= Received: by 10.141.204.16 with SMTP id g16mr1155961rvq.113.1197558314282; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.buptsse.cn ( [219.143.159.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l21sm12692359rvb.2007.12.13.07.05.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:05:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47614A15.2060003@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:04:53 +0800 From: Tsetsbold Narantungalag User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> <476015D9.6070604@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <476015D9.6070604@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:05:15 -0000 Hi, have you tried this before: #mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb Tsetsbold From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 15:25:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD00A16A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C741D13C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDEfxMv034856 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:41:59 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:52:54 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.2 References: <20071212180452.GP51627@amilo.cenkes.org> In-Reply-To: <20071212180452.GP51627@amilo.cenkes.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712131652.54824.jonathan@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -4.379 () ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: Where is the next uid from adduser pulled from? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:25:10 -0000 On Wednesday 12 December 2007 20:04, Andrew Pantyukhin wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 12:00:06PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > I have scripts to add new users. However, after that any port that > > installs a user creates it with a UID after the ones I made. > > > > For example I want all employees to have uids starting at 5000, but I > > would like too port installed uids to be 2000 and up. After I add some > > users (ie say last user is 5008), the next port that installs a user and > > doesn't specify uid.. then will get 5009. > > > > Tried looking for the adduser program, but could not find adduser.c > > It's pw(8) that selects default uids and it just takes the last > one (numerically) and uses the next one. > > Create a placeholder user with uid 5000 and let ports use uids > 5000+, but when creating new users, specify uids manually (both > pw and adduser allow that). Alternatively, create/edit /etc/pw.conf including minuid 2000 maxuid 4999 reuseuids yes This will cause automatic uses of pw(8) (such as port installations) to use uids between 2000 and 4999, and to ``fill in the gaps''. When adding a user by hand, use pw -C /dev/null to tell pw to ignore pw.conf(5) and get the default behaviour (which is to use the uid one higher than the highest ever used). adduser(8) should just DTRT, but you can make sure by adding to the flags -u uid_start which will use the next available uid after uid_start (which it identifies by testing each uid in turn for existence, not by just using pw usernext). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 15:27:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC74516A46E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:27:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (ei.bzerk.org [82.95.223.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A7113C465 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: from ei.bzerk.org (BOFH@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDFAu2v075191; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:10:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Received: (from bulk@localhost) by ei.bzerk.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBDFAu6p075190; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:10:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mail25@bzerk.org) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:10:56 +0100 From: Ruben de Groot To: Yves Vogl Message-ID: <20071213151056.GA74878@ei.bzerk.org> Mail-Followup-To: Ruben de Groot , Yves Vogl , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <82A87AA2-AE4D-44BB-ACD5-6A84924B67BD@deetune.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <82A87AA2-AE4D-44BB-ACD5-6A84924B67BD@deetune.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, J_CHICKENPOX_83 autolearn=no version=3.2.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.1 (2007-05-02) on ei.bzerk.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (ei.bzerk.org [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:10:58 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install FreeBSD remotely from Debian Linux Environment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:27:01 -0000 On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 07:11:01PM +0100, Yves Vogl typed: > Hi, > > I tried to install FreeBSD from an existing Debian 4.0 Linux > installation with "Depenguinator 1.1". > Depenguinator failed due to a wide range of incompatibilities caused > by gcc-4.0 and the beta code used in Depenguinator. > Next I built an image under my local Mac OS X 10.5 with QEMU - but the > next step would have been to copy the image via dd to harddisk of the > remote server. > The problem is that Linux doesn't support ufs and the additional ufs- > tools either won't compile because of gcc-4.0, current Linux kernel > etc. . > I don't have the possibility to use KVM-over-Ethernet - but I can ask > a technician to boot from a CD-ROM. The problem here is that the > neither the bootonly.iso or one of the others automatically start SSH > and connect via DHCP? don't they? > > So... is there another way to start a remote installation? Hi Yves, Best way would be to create your own custom bootable cd. This is quite easy. Maybe you can get some ideas from this (now outdated) script I used for this purpose years ago: http://www.bzerk.org/files/mk-livecd good luck, Ruben From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 15:43:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146CA16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (firewall.studsvik-analytic.com [155.212.59.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9293413C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pc142.studsvik-analytic.com [192.168.169.142]) by bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id lBDFYcXl015645; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:34:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47615582.9060202@studsvik.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:53:38 -0500 From: Patrick Baldwin Organization: Studsvik Scandpower User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yi Wang References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <5ea5cca50712121718j5a5c1964hc7da09a72924bc5b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5ea5cca50712121718j5a5c1964hc7da09a72924bc5b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:43:20 -0000 Yi Wang wrote: > Try mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > some usb disk doesn't have s1 postfix. I get: webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt/usbdrive mount_ntfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument I'm wondering if I need to format the USB drive for use with FreeBSD? > On 12/12/07, Patrick Baldwin wrote: >> Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a >> FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, >> but: >> >> webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >> mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block >> >> OK, it seemed a good chance the USB drive was formatted with NTFS, so I >> tried: >> >> webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >> mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument >> >> Further reading on mount_ntfs suggested that even if I got it to >> work, it's not quite what I want: I want read & write access >> with compressed files supported. >> >> dmesg: >> umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device >> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >> da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) >> >> usbdevs -v >> Controller /dev/usb0: >> addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), >> Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 >> port 1 powered >> port 2 powered >> Controller /dev/usb1: >> addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), >> Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 >> port 1 powered >> port 2 powered >> Controller /dev/usb2: >> addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), >> Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 >> port 1 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, External >> HDD(0x0702), Western Digital(0x1058), rev 1.04 >> port 2 powered >> port 3 powered >> port 4 powered >> >> Any help appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 15:46:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D43216A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (firewall.studsvik-analytic.com [155.212.59.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B697C13C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pc142.studsvik-analytic.com [192.168.169.142]) by bostonserver.studsvik-analytic.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id lBDFbxXl015750; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:37:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4761564C.8010305@studsvik.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:57:00 -0500 From: Patrick Baldwin Organization: Studsvik Scandpower User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tsetsbold Narantungalag References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> <476015D9.6070604@onetel.com> <47614A15.2060003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47614A15.2060003@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:46:44 -0000 Tsetsbold Narantungalag wrote: > Hi, > > have you tried this before: > > #mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb > I hadn't initially, but I have now: # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument And dmesg: umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry ...which seems to suggest the drive is to big for mount_msdosfs to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 15:55:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C29816A46C for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:55:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF1D13C4D1 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 672CB98268; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:55:01 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <476155C4.7050905@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:54:44 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> <476015D9.6070604@onetel.com> <47614A15.2060003@gmail.com> <4761564C.8010305@studsvik.com> In-Reply-To: <4761564C.8010305@studsvik.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:55:03 -0000 Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Tsetsbold Narantungalag wrote: >> Hi, >> >> have you tried this before: >> >> #mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb >> > > I hadn't initially, but I have now: > > # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > > And dmesg: > > > umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 > da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry > mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry > > > > ...which seems to suggest the drive is to big for mount_msdosfs > to work. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Did you see my reply the other day? I don't know how it is now but there used to be an upper limit on FAT32 filesystem size in FreeBSD, 128gb I believe. You could get round it by recompiling your kernel with MSDOSFS_LARGE but there were some limitations on it's use. I'm sure google would find further info. Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:01:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF8416A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:01:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FF013C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:01:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [172.23.23.190] (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDG1IwX085647 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:01:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:01:22 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:01:20 -0000 Daniel Bye wrote: >> with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that will allow for >> POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those here >> who've used them? > > dovecot is excellent - easy setup, stable and reliable, provides IMAP I'll 2nd Dovecot. Been running it for IMAP for 3 years or more. See ports/mail/dovecot and www.dovecot.org -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:03:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151CF16A475 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB34213C467 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBDG2Tnw016109; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:02:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBDG2TI9016108; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:02:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:02:29 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Patrick Baldwin Message-ID: <20071213160229.GB15976@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <5ea5cca50712121718j5a5c1964hc7da09a72924bc5b@mail.gmail.com> <47615582.9060202@studsvik.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47615582.9060202@studsvik.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Yi Wang , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:03:01 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:53:38AM -0500, Patrick Baldwin wrote: > Yi Wang wrote: > >Try mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > > >some usb disk doesn't have s1 postfix. > > I get: > > webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0 /mnt/usbdrive > mount_ntfs: /dev/da0: Invalid argument > > I'm wondering if I need to format the USB drive for use with FreeBSD? I think you will have to use something to divide the disk in to more than one slice, each of which can be what you want - fat32, FreeBSD, etc. or maybe upgrade to a more recent FreeBSD. I tried it with Partition Magic, but it failed because it wouldn't recognize USB disks - not even the 8.0 version which claims it will. I haven't had time to try gparted or any others. Will do so soon. ////jerry > > > >On 12/12/07, Patrick Baldwin wrote: > >>Hi, I'm trying to mount a 160 GB Western Digital USB 2.0 drive on a > >>FreeBSD 6.2 system. This seemed like it should be relatively simple, > >>but: > >> > >>webmail# mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > >>mount: /dev/da0s1 on /mnt/usbdrive: incorrect super block > >> > >>OK, it seemed a good chance the USB drive was formatted with NTFS, so I > >>tried: > >> > >>webmail# mount_ntfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive > >>mount_ntfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument > >> > >>Further reading on mount_ntfs suggested that even if I got it to > >>work, it's not quite what I want: I want read & write access > >>with compressed files supported. > >> > >>dmesg: > >>umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 > >>da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > >>da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device > >>da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > >>da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) > >> > >> usbdevs -v > >>Controller /dev/usb0: > >>addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), > >>Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > >> port 1 powered > >> port 2 powered > >>Controller /dev/usb1: > >>addr 1: full speed, self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), > >>Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > >> port 1 powered > >> port 2 powered > >>Controller /dev/usb2: > >>addr 1: high speed, self powered, config 1, EHCI root hub(0x0000), > >>Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > >> port 1 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, External > >>HDD(0x0702), Western Digital(0x1058), rev 1.04 > >> port 2 powered > >> port 3 powered > >> port 4 powered > >> > >>Any help appreciated. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:04:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A924A16A469 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24CA13C469 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 59287 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 16:19:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 16:19:13 -0000 Message-ID: <476158E8.2030708@123.com.sv> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:08:08 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071212-0, 12/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:04:57 -0000 > You should add something like this to your sendmail.mc config: > > define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE', `21000000')dnl > > ...which will set a maximum message size that your SMTP server is > willing to accept. The recommended max size in the RFCs was something > like 10 MB, but season to taste. Do I have to follow the /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/README file in order to configure sendmail as you said? or can I just put the above line in some other config file? P.D. the server had 2 files of 4.1 G each in /var/spool/mqueue, I deleted this files and no more error messages appeared. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:21:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2F416A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8450713C4D1 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBDGKqtH016180; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:20:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBDGKq0V016179; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:20:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:20:52 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Cesar Amaya Message-ID: <20071213162052.GA16160@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> <476158E8.2030708@123.com.sv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <476158E8.2030708@123.com.sv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:29 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:08:08AM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > > >You should add something like this to your sendmail.mc config: > > > > define(`confMAX_MESSAGE_SIZE', `21000000')dnl > > > >...which will set a maximum message size that your SMTP server is > >willing to accept. The recommended max size in the RFCs was something > >like 10 MB, but season to taste. > Do I have to follow the /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/README file in order > to configure sendmail as you said? or can I just put the above line in > some other config file? Huh??? Where else would you put it? > > P.D. the server had 2 files of 4.1 G each in /var/spool/mqueue, I > deleted this files and no more error messages appeared. Good. That, for now, solved your problem. Probably some attempted virus or denial of service attack. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:21:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E84D16A46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from watstaatervoor@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D27313C467 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from watstaatervoor@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so428928wra.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:21:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=O3m93+njRl/2JDxLjqKRcMNE8Mg/UHpesOzBJi7L4tQ=; b=Nk2enLaAEah+wPpkb8fNozCbY1n0ZM6vL45I9ENmMkff7zxIF1h+ZE1CWKxCXaOzpiezkcFvryEecmpjK8rQZt6y/IlXuYz1So6V3aLPUJ6f9ueB2QUNh4Q7ExnYoufOQvDY4FcwKr8WTvLlPSMQq1Yz9AiCSwVyHCTQfwf0cM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LYrAnvX3dJXVEiLhXTuD53gQH20JJCa+5SeRcS3Y0J3axD97GiHhZ1SeOuj3A2gG3JVaPW06bVIDPfqMrv8eBBaUKElTF9ps9Hzg1LHHtf3m2QVAXr+U0KyURoAy/g0I2CmtcfokgnEz2aLfx/cS9FtaZZGo6pYdI7FQRB+9sWg= Received: by 10.142.155.4 with SMTP id c4mr879481wfe.208.1197561292516; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.154.4 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 07:54:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:54:52 +0100 From: "Coen Watstaatervoor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: NIC "crashes" on heavy compile or HD action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:21:38 -0000 I'm running a Supermicro webserver with a fresh install op FreeBSD 6.2-P9. With these hardware specs: Supermicro Superserver 5014CT P4 SATA 1x Intel Pentium 631 3.0Ghz SKT775 FSB800 2MB 2x Kingston 512MB DDR2 667 PC5300 2x Seagate 80GB SATA 1x 3ware 8006-2LP SATA RAID When I try to install some add-ons, like PostgresSQL, the NIC seems to be "bugging". I get complete time-outs or pings around 3000ms. The network connection is up and running as is should but the server won't reply. There is no logging of any errors or problems and after the compile (or eve= n a rm =96rf /usr/ports) is finished the server is available again. Is there anyone who has seen this kind of behavior before? Are there any tools, monitoring options, available so I can maybe get closer to the cause of this problem? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:27:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3FD16A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:27:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: from starfish.geekisp.com (mail.geekisp.com [216.168.135.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2616E13C467 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:27:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mbaki@whywire.net) Received: (qmail 7557 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Dec 2007 16:27:36 -0000 Received: from 67.100.188.210 (proxying for 67.100.188.210) (SquirrelMail authenticated user mbaki@whywire.net) by www.geekisp.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:27:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> In-Reply-To: <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:27:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Monah Baki" To: "FreeBSD Questions" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:27:04 -0000 I'll 3rd it too, been using it for 2 years, amazing. > Daniel Bye wrote: >>> with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that will >>> allow for >>> POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those >>> here >>> who've used them? >> >> dovecot is excellent - easy setup, stable and reliable, provides IMAP > > I'll 2nd Dovecot. Been running it for IMAP for 3 years or more. See > ports/mail/dovecot and www.dovecot.org > > -R > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > BSD Networking, Microsoft Notworking From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:39:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADB716A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA67813C461 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so260042pyb.3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gl4o/GuPfj8K6ssTTR1XSLfDW09Jy5/hcBVIEuyu1tU=; b=OjBtnZfQrJmJMt+3vmsvgTjOkoz2DlIB8x0lmv/dDTtkHFFCMMsynHIql7obCo8wU3P+hIhjcTFd2d4ZS39DsTp0vl/9kOJmKwSkeqUXC8BXgHdsOBDxb9fxJd7/7MGJRa/QouFN3Oo/Y5zxN66dWAoKcn+xujOkmqY9is2h0G4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Z/962Gnfo/lwnhbxW8hZdcsEZvox+c+n/hLTMlgi9+BrIz3Yj9LI68PQDFOOayAnO6EIToEkQAFAhfst84cK2khlrxninMMbNfiDrham74x30+s6cMyOYpZcc+lSGU0GEFIO1HS0B/ONBDUYOWC9Yb7Y/TnJjqa9IkthPa8GZ50= Received: by 10.35.60.15 with SMTP id n15mr2418739pyk.33.1197563956249; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.11.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:39:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:39:16 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?=" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?=" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20071213001002.GA60304@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071213001002.GA60304@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:39:22 -0000 On the controller there it says that it supports freebsd 6.1. And yes there is documentation on how to install freebsd 6.1 on the raid. But for now i have installed freebsd on a RAID1 system, and i have problem getting the card detcted, i run a 5TB RAID 6 on this card. Didn't thought that it could be that much differens between version 6.1 and 6.2. Gonna try to reinstall. After the reinstall i got the card up and running. I see it get detected and it all looks ok. I go in and do a fdisk on the drive and label/mount it. I do all this in sysinstall. I can see that the drive is 4648GB so it all looks ok with the RAID 6 Drive= . When i later quit sysinstall and check the mounts i see that the drive spac= e is 532GB and available space is 500GB. This looks totally wrong. Is there any limitations that im not aware of? /Goran On Dec 13, 2007 1:10 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under FreeBS= D > 6.2. > > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > > For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.1, but > > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up and > running, > > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the generic kernel, > > So the most should be in there? > > > > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. > > > > > What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? > > As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card included with any > FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been included > in > GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have been in 6.2also= . > > > It is quite possible however that Promise provides their own FreeBSD > driver > for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which > version(s) > of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or read their > documentation where such information can likely be found. > > > > > -- > > Erik Trulsson > ertr1013@student.uu.se > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:40:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C59E16A469 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD35513C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:40:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l8so390455nzf.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:40:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WRjkn2Ifup8XGYF4scZQLCYgrBmf4prBZFCH5uGS5s0=; b=Cdwysom5be0RNWHE/q7QRxLevtrr9ej4MpSAU80Wn9dqC34+dux1HGRXTQDwPgRoZnvUByXOK+uIjK2iP3vKryqL5zbBpy1mEL+LTLazOOUO1I4SRIik2hIRLaHo+M3piMWduFOH7dJ6NSp0A1OIEnMwcYUkm59hjD23Vh9Yd1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qRGojV68M6oxyHCwMgII+9bbrXgV+7ZhSyR94BtylhBeNoE/9R5meeWzoJ6WS0W2W1EvcfxWsX21ZFMTCI29vqjDh+vtY72LNlE22I9jHSWqrsjAvBrwI36ZnuMkOZs4wqi+dV8KorAwPNo3ZN7NPDCUFvISGEqV6FQZ7Vh7UD0= Received: by 10.114.159.1 with SMTP id h1mr2431824wae.122.1197564050832; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.167.7 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:40:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:40:50 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Monah Baki" In-Reply-To: <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:40:52 -0000 On Dec 13, 2007 9:27 AM, Monah Baki wrote: > I'll 3rd it too, been using it for 2 years, amazing. > > > > Daniel Bye wrote: > >>> with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that will > >>> allow for > >>> POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those > >>> here > >>> who've used them? > >> > >> dovecot is excellent - easy setup, stable and reliable, provides IMAP > > > > I'll 2nd Dovecot. Been running it for IMAP for 3 years or more. See > > ports/mail/dovecot and www.dovecot.org > sounds like everyone is sold on dovecot. Great!. I've a few questions. I went and looked it up on freshports.org and found the main web site. Can anyone explain to me what problems they have with mail clients attaching? See http://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients . This shows some interesting problems and I'd like to know if everyone using dovecot sees these problems. Second, how do programs like dovecot manage users? Does each user of the e-mail system need to be a user of the FreeBSD system (installed locally)? Thanks, Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 17:07:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D15616A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5407813C45A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 69558 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 17:21:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 17:21:45 -0000 Message-ID: <47616789.4040801@123.com.sv> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:10:33 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <4760208B.5060707@123.com.sv> <192E5FCC5BDD87CAD2C1341E@utd59514.utdallas.edu> <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> <476158E8.2030708@123.com.sv> <20071213162052.GA16160@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071213162052.GA16160@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071212-0, 12/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:07:30 -0000 > > Huh??? Where else would you put it? > > > In /etc/mail/sendmail.cf From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 17:11:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E891E16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yves.vogl@deetune.com) Received: from ds1.dock42.com (ds1.dock42.com [213.239.220.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909D613C442 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yves.vogl@deetune.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ds1.dock42.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E6A918006; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:11:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from ds1.dock42.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ds1.dock42.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0CFi1+kgCEvQ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:11:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (dtmd-d9bfe3be.pool.mediaWays.net [217.191.227.190]) (Authenticated sender: yves.vogl@deetune.com) by ds1.dock42.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CF7918004; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:11:27 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: Yves Vogl To: Ruben de Groot In-Reply-To: <20071213151056.GA74878@ei.bzerk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:11:26 +0100 References: <82A87AA2-AE4D-44BB-ACD5-6A84924B67BD@deetune.com> <20071213151056.GA74878@ei.bzerk.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to install FreeBSD remotely from Debian Linux Environment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:29 -0000 Hi, On 13.12.2007, at 16:10, Ruben de Groot wrote: > Best way would be to create your own custom bootable cd. This is > quite easy. > Maybe you can get some ideas from this (now outdated) script I used > for this > purpose years ago: > > http://www.bzerk.org/files/mk-livecd thank you - this is what I've been looking for. Not a complete solution - but a base to avoid figuring out those nasty hacks by myself :) Best Regards, Yves From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 17:11:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFBD16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C1F13C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBDHAufr016390; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBDHAuBx016389; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:10:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:10:56 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Cesar Amaya Message-ID: <20071213171056.GA16370@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> <476158E8.2030708@123.com.sv> <20071213162052.GA16160@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47616789.4040801@123.com.sv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47616789.4040801@123.com.sv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:11:33 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:10:33AM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > > > > >Huh??? Where else would you put it? > > > > > > > In /etc/mail/sendmail.cf I think you want to put it in sendmail.mc and then run the make in /ec/sendmail rather than modify sendmail.cf directly. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 17:32:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341F316A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:32:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1D413C4D5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:32:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 73625 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 17:47:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 17:47:11 -0000 Message-ID: <47616D7D.9070402@123.com.sv> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:35:57 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <47604075.8060705@123.com.sv> <18272.17315.714141.372324@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <47604DE2.4010307@123.com.sv> <20071212211342.GA11906@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47605C8C.4010601@123.com.sv> <20071212221903.GB12113@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <9F0DCF4C-432E-4FEA-B3C4-1F01D4D5CB56@mac.com> <476158E8.2030708@123.com.sv> <20071213162052.GA16160@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <47616789.4040801@123.com.sv> <20071213171056.GA16370@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071213171056.GA16370@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071212-0, 12/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:32:55 -0000 > I think you want to put it in sendmail.mc and then run the make > in /ec/sendmail rather than modify sendmail.cf directly. > > Do I create the sendmail.mc file from scratch because I don´t have any? I just have a freebsd.mc file. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 17:46:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1487216A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1E8213C44B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so237484anc.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.57.6 with SMTP id f6mr4125236ana.113.1197567972921; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p33sm2615510elf.2007.12.13.09.46.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:46:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:46:14 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> References: <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071213124552.BF44.A38C9147@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.44 [en] Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:46:14 -0000 > On December 13, 2007 at 11:40AM Andrew Falanga wrote: [ snip ] > Second, how do programs like dovecot manage users? Does each user of the > e-mail system need to be a user of the FreeBSD system (installed locally)? No, Dovecot can handle virtual users just fine. I use it in conjunction with Postfix. You might want to read up on how to use virtual users with Dovecot and Postfix. Both sites offer extensive help and the both of their respective forums will be glad to assist you. -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:19:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D31116A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anrays@gmail.com) Received: from mail.matrix.farlep.net (mail.matrix.farlep.net [217.146.241.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38EB313C468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from anrays@gmail.com) Received: from santinel.home.ua (senser.ppp.matrix.private [10.64.37.183]) by mail.matrix.farlep.net with ESMTP id 1J2rnH-0002SM-HO; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:24:19 +0200 Received: from anray by santinel.home.ua with local (Exim 4.68; FreeBSD) id 1J2rpZ-000Auu-IP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:26:41 +0200 To: Predrag Punosevac References: <47608673.60708@math.arizona.edu> From: Andrey Slusar Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:26:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <47608673.60708@math.arizona.edu> (Predrag Punosevac's message of "Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:10:11 -0700") Message-ID: <86bq8upktq.fsf@santinel.home.ua> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required, autolearn: no) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Cc: Lee Shackelford , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Realtek ALC262 and Via ENVY24 sound cards for rel. 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:19:15 -0000 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:10:11 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Lee Shackelford wrote: > > Good afternoon, FreeBSD enthusiasts. For FreeBSD release 6.2, does anyone > > know if there is any simpler way of using sound cards containing either a > > Realtek ALC262 chip or a Via ENVY24 chip than installing the Linux > > emulator, and then using the alsa a.p.i.? Many thanks. Yours truly, L e e > Did you try to compile Open Sound System from ports? I have some > Realtek crap and it worked only with OSS. I think that many more > devices are supported in 7.0 so you might want to upgrade the > system. Check the hardware notes. > For the list of supported devices by OSS you can check Open Sound > System web-site. > They also have a binary package that you can install with pkg_add > utility. Package is sometimes updated before the port! oss in ports is not supported envy24 cards, driver in 7,0 base system is works with very low volume. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:22:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3A116A475 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:22:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6791813C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CE9E052E; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:22:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:22:06 +0100 From: cpghost To: "Mark Evans" Message-ID: <20071213192206.547cbffe@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <002201c83cf5$2948a560$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer> References: <005901c8313f$f7048b70$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer> <474CA49D.50306@FreeBSD.org> <002001c831d5$80ad8670$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer> <003101c831da$a405bc50$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer> <20071129122043.A9040@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20071129084244.eaba6f7a.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20071129154230.5ba29b43@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <002201c83cf5$2948a560$0d00a8c0@bayoucshaffer> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:22:11 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:28:23 -0600 "Mark Evans" wrote: > this program seems to have the same issues with it. [Please don't top post.] Of course, if "ls -lf" has those issues, "sortls.py" will have them too, because it just runs it and sorts its output externally with another sorting algorithm. sortls.py speeds up "ls -l" considerably for huge (10,000+ entries) directories by using another sorting algorithm, it doesn't do anything else. Just to ask again: while you're waiting for "ls -lf", what does "top" say? Is that process accumulating CPU time, or is it just sitting around waiting, waiting, waiting...? Are you using NFS or another file system where stat(2) is expensive? > Thanks > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cpghost" > To: "Bill Moran" > Cc: "Wojciech Puchar" ; > ; "Mark Evans" > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 8:42 AM > Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. > > > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:42:44 -0500 > > Bill Moran wrote: > > > >> In response to Wojciech Puchar : > >> > >> > > ls | wc > >> > > >> > strange. i did > >> > > >> > [wojtek@wojtek ~/b]$ a=0;while [ $a -lt 10000 ];do mkdir > >> > $a;a=$[a+1];done > >> > > >> > completed <25 seconds on 1Ghz CPU > >> > > >> > ls takes 0.1 seconds user time, ls -l takes 0.3 second user time. > >> > > >> > unless you have 486/33 or slower system there is something wrong. > >> > >> Another possible scenario is that the directory is badly > >> fragmented. Unless something has changed since I last researched > >> this (which is possible) FreeBSD doesn't manage directory > >> fragmentation during use. If you're constantly adding and removing > >> files, it's possible that the directory entry is such a mess that > >> it takes ls a long time to process it. > > > > Yes, that's also possible. But sorting is really the culprit here: > > it *is* possible to create a directory with filenames in such a way > > that it triggers Quicksort's O(N^2) worst case instead of O(N log > > N). > > > > The following Python (2.5) program calls "ls -lf" and sorts its > > output with Python's own stable sort() routine (which is NOT > > qsort(3)). On a directory with 44,000 entries, it runs orders of > > magnitude faster than "ls -l", even though it has to use the > > decorate-sort-undecorate idiom to sort the output according > > according the filename, and it is interpreted rather than compiled! > > > > I guess that replacing qsort(3) in > > /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/fts.c:fts_sort() > > with another sort algorithm which doesn't > > expose this anomaly would solve that problem. --------------------- cut here ------------------ cut here ------------ #!/usr/bin/env python # sortls.py -- sort output of ls -lf with python's stable sort routine. import os def sort_ls_lf(path): "Sort the output of ls -lf path" os.chdir(path) lines = os.popen("ls -lf", "r").readlines() dsu = [ (line.split()[-1], line) for line in lines ] dsu.sort() return ''.join(tupl[1] for tupl in dsu) if __name__ == '__main__': import sys if len(sys.argv) < 2: print >>sys.stderr, "Usage:", sys.argv[0], "path" sys.exit(1) path = sys.argv[1] try: print sort_ls_lf(path) except IOError: pass # silently absorb broken pipe and other errors --------------------- cut here ------------------ cut here ------------ -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:23:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6945916A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:23:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBF413C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay3.lanl.gov (mailrelay3.lanl.gov [128.165.4.104]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lBDIN5X3021141 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:23:05 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay3.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lBDIN4Ig019828 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:23:04 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE851F8012 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:22:58 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:22:57 -0700 Message-Id: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Subject: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:23:07 -0000 Hi folks, I've slowly been setting up some options for the default class in login.conf such that passwords will expire after 150 days. To test whether this functionality was working, I have a warning appear on the first day, so that if I set a password and log in , I ought to be warned that my password will expire in 150 days. It doesn't appear to be working. I am not receiving any kind of warning that my password will expire. To see whether I was correctly in the default class, I changed the message of the day file from /etc/motd to /etc/motw, and the message of the day changed appropriately. I then set up a session limit of an hour and a half with a warning appearing after 1 minute, but that isn't working either. The method I'm using is this: I use vi to edit the /etc/login.conf, then run cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf. I then reboot the machine, to make sure that everything that ought to be paying attention does. I suspected that /etc/master.passwd might need updating, so I used vipw, made a trivial change, saved the change, but nothing. My default class reads: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES:\ :path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin ~/bin:\ :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ :cputime=unlimited:\ :datasize=unlimited:\ :stacksize=unlimited:\ :memorylocked=unlimited:\ :memoryuse=unlimited:\ :filesize=unlimited:\ :coredumpsize=unlimited:\ :openfiles=unlimited:\ :maxproc=unlimited:\ :sbsize=unlimited:\ :vmemoryuse=unlimited:\ :priority=0:\ :ignoretime@:\ :umask=022:\ :passwordtime=150d:\ :warnpassword=150d: :sessiontime=1h30m:\ :warntime=1h29m: Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:30:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC8C16A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0511113C4F7 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.190] (port=40412 helo=smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2spD-0006o3-1l for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:30:23 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4901 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2spB-0003Tz-OH for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:30:22 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 3819A3989A; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:30:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from VAL00653.egypt.nl (VAL00653.egypt.nl [192.168.13.53]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:30:21 +0100 Message-ID: <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:30:21 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> In-Reply-To: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Subject: Re: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:30:25 -0000 Quoting James Harrison : > :passwordtime=150d:\ > :warnpassword=150d: Is it me, or did you forget the backslash here? Peter -- htp://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:33:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CD616A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:33:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24C313C4D5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDIXQZq037167; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:33:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ifKGUKA2nfLw; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:33:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDIWIZT037138; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:32:21 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <47617AAB.4010408@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:32:11 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Coen Watstaatervoor References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NIC "crashes" on heavy compile or HD action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:33:33 -0000 Coen Watstaatervoor wrote: > I'm running a Supermicro webserver with a fresh install op FreeBSD 6.2-P9. > With these hardware specs: > > Supermicro Superserver 5014CT P4 SATA > > 1x Intel Pentium 631 3.0Ghz SKT775 FSB800 2MB > > 2x Kingston 512MB DDR2 667 PC5300 > > 2x Seagate 80GB SATA > > 1x 3ware 8006-2LP SATA RAID > > When I try to install some add-ons, like PostgresSQL, the NIC seems to be > "bugging". I get complete time-outs or pings around 3000ms. The network > connection is up and running as is should but the server won't reply. Ok, I'll bite. YMMV. Is there a console, or are you doing everything remotely? From remote, it's very hard to determine exactly what the issue is, I'd think. Now, assuming it is the NIC, what NIC is it? Is a dmesg available? > There is no logging of any errors or problems and after the compile (or even > a rm –rf /usr/ports) is finished the server is available again. You mean that rm'ing a large directory structure hangs things up? > Is there anyone who has seen this kind of behavior before? Are there any > tools, monitoring options, available so I can maybe get closer to the cause > of this problem? Depending on what you already know, and what you suspect the problem is, what about systat(1), top(1), ktrace(1), ptrace(1), iostat(8)? Try and use the console if possible; if disk, CPU, etc. seem to be OK, then suspect an issue with the NIC. As I said, YMMV. Good luck. Kevin Kinsey -- I have a hard time being attracted to anyone who can beat me up. -- John McGrath, Atlanta sportswriter, on women weightlifters. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:36:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5248216A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF38413C4D5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id EBA1E6142; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brick.slightlystrange.org (brick.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2D86117 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by brick.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lBDIaNDQ087791 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:23 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:23 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071213183623.GA1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:36:27 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:40:50AM -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: > sounds like everyone is sold on dovecot. Great!. I've a few questions. = I > went and looked it up on freshports.org and found the main web site. Can > anyone explain to me what problems they have with mail clients attaching? > See http://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients . This shows some interesting proble= ms > and I'd like to know if everyone using dovecot sees these problems. I use mutt 1.4.2.3i, which works without problems. I have also used=20 Thunderbird with it, as does my business partner, and spotted no issues there either.=20 >=20 > Second, how do programs like dovecot manage users? Does each user of the > e-mail system need to be a user of the FreeBSD system (installed locally)? As Gerard said, dovecot can handle virtual users. There are several ways to do this - probably the most scalable will be SQL and LDAP, although you can use passwd-file as well. There's some good documentation on the web site, particularly http://wiki.dovecot.org/Authentication. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYXunixf5fBYiFmoRApMiAKCLpF/QHGz9HoxDmNH3EDKK9bwuFwCcDrQg nZZNuXlvsIgm3chXrYdlT3g= =sPeV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:37:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1224516A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from smtp1.bethere.co.uk (smtp1.betherenow.co.uk [87.194.0.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD33613C46E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.71] (87-194-3-32.bethere.co.uk [87.194.3.32]) by smtp1.bethere.co.uk (Postfix) with SMTP id 38DDA9818B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:37:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47617BD8.4020109@onetel.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:37:12 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: cdrtools versions and hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:37:30 -0000 Hi, I recently removed sysutils/cdrtools and installed cdrtools-devel instead because cdrecord in cdrtools doesn't have prodvd included and cdrtools-devel does (helped by a recent post from the author pointing out that cdrecord from cdrtools is quite old). Anyway, I just csupped my ports and ran portmanager -s which told me that cdrtools-2.01_6 is missing and hal-0.5.8.20070909 is built with OLD dependency: cdrtools-2.01_6. Can I make cdrtools-devel to be the dependency of hal so that it will get rebuilt with it and make the cdrtools missing message disappear? Will I break things if I do? I realise that I can tell portmanager to ignore cdrtools but that doesn't seem like the proper solution. Thanks Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:39:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87AA516A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:39:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D6513C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so353084pyb.3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=UunzK38h+rnZ7ialvMNhMuHad+5n/1WSZxKhpBMCvUc=; b=raCqWuSxijwXqNitAMUpGMDs58657WHb9C5ALZlEoE9PbntSh/VHZjuyqJroOYcl4JYlEMiuJmXVsgoCyJX1mhn6M8WO3NplNSMb6RiaSh3+81HwCQWK4zFNJDDgZpaS3L6b604URkCj7EUq3yo2oW83JN05jGtrouER+Ua8/pk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TSxLGtoTgSKh/XadMEXVZLRVT++waUoXTENkJ6RuDsLs9bedElm00F+qi/IgVAzpnrC7Yc60C3mEgF6HTeXDNzodoaK4Nu7Xf73wI544HRFOgFPKygiNspH7Q0y/o/yzce58aUXAENBiTwLa+pwuhBeGqz9YpLQ0iV16/WOKpho= Received: by 10.35.26.14 with SMTP id d14mr2587318pyj.8.1197571161139; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.11.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:39:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:39:21 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?=" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?=" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071213001002.GA60304@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:39:22 -0000 I have come a bit further. It seems that if I create a 2TB drive it all goe= s good. But it doesn't seems to work when doing a large 5TB drive. Is there some limitations on fdisk, and the size on partitions? Can't it exceed 2TB? The machine is a ordinary Core 2 duo 6750 with 4GB of ram. /Regards Goran On Dec 13, 2007 5:39 PM, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > On the controller there it says that it supports freebsd 6.1. And yes > there is documentation on how to install freebsd 6.1 on the raid. > But for now i have installed freebsd on a RAID1 system, and i have proble= m > getting the card detcted, i run a 5TB RAID 6 on this card. > Didn't thought that it could be that much differens between version 6.1an= d > 6.2. Gonna try to reinstall. After the reinstall i got the card up and > running. I see it get detected and it all looks ok. I go in and do a fdis= k > on the drive and label/mount it. I do all this in sysinstall. > I can see that the drive is 4648GB so it all looks ok with the RAID 6 > Drive. > When i later quit sysinstall and check the mounts i see that the drive > space is 532GB and available space is 500GB. This looks totally wrong. Is > there any limitations that im not aware of? > > /Goran > > On Dec 13, 2007 1:10 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > > > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > > > For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.1, > > but > > > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > > > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up and > > running, > > > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the generic kernel, > > > So the most should be in there? > > > > > > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. > > > > > > > > > What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? > > > > As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card included with any > > FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been > > included in > > GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have been in 6.2al= so. > > > > > > It is quite possible however that Promise provides their own FreeBSD > > driver > > for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which > > version(s) > > of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or read their > > documentation where such information can likely be found. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Erik Trulsson > > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:42:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7949416A469 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C4C13C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id EC2776142; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brick.slightlystrange.org (brick.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B5D6108 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by brick.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lBDIg6Cg010886 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:06 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:06 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213184206.GB1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:42:10 -0000 --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:30:21PM +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: > Quoting James Harrison : >=20 > > :passwordtime=3D150d:\ > > :warnpassword=3D150d: >=20 > Is it me, or did you forget the backslash here? No, that's correct. It's the last line of a class definition. The backslash is used as a line continuation character, and is not necessary on the last line. In fact, it must not be included, else it will cause the system to interpret the next line as part of the same class definition, rather than the start of the next. Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYXz+ixf5fBYiFmoRAn9JAJ4j2+0eRDFBc3quJDzmNorJ0wh6TgCeKFPv bM5GUqcIqjVn1SMz/wYnqLU= =BwPM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:46:18 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C091216A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76BFC13C45B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so686571rvb.43 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:46:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=EFqDliW1PhZROalFUqBAlm5srn8xoQPYciCz/MXavcA=; b=Wawh8oZ/Do/B79e92dz5E5wf4Rw1qyFwaTzwQFJWw40vQ9d7pLUOqzQ1/At7Jm87c1GAw3Uj/aIfTaljwrrUYEnXeL8f7cP1hs0i6WCuyFKUqjceyMV4T9rplEyRya7xAF5raNIkxKvuqBhh1FtzhuaYIM7XYeofs4T1tXRqjy8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer; b=d+sQitQE8PGrAb/kLkJ1FjAmCi+cmeaTPcLEaZYn9aO19HbziXYApDV0pWg5+kajcpDpERF7w+hzbrYFzvKF3BXZfzepQNJLgC0cuEwefBRKvS8hBe+ZdBpyRTc2nv+2oUGATQ7f/DJX4pxXcmbRpdpe72BkB6COhzQg9LfP0CY= Received: by 10.140.126.14 with SMTP id y14mr1329208rvc.59.1197571577377; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from swordfish.local.claimlynx.com ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f60sm20913384pyh.2007.12.13.10.46.14 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:46:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <921E40EF-5D67-4D41-9E3D-25F362D51344@gmail.com> From: Eric Crist To: Daniel Bye In-Reply-To: <20071213183623.GA1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:46:15 -0600 References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> <20071213183623.GA1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:46:18 -0000 On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Bye wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:40:50AM -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: >> sounds like everyone is sold on dovecot. Great!. I've a few >> questions. I >> went and looked it up on freshports.org and found the main web >> site. Can >> anyone explain to me what problems they have with mail clients >> attaching? >> See http://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients . This shows some interesting >> problems >> and I'd like to know if everyone using dovecot sees these problems. > > I use mutt 1.4.2.3i, which works without problems. I have also used > Thunderbird with it, as does my business partner, and spotted no > issues > there either. > >> >> Second, how do programs like dovecot manage users? Does each user >> of the >> e-mail system need to be a user of the FreeBSD system (installed >> locally)? > > As Gerard said, dovecot can handle virtual users. There are several > ways > to do this - probably the most scalable will be SQL and LDAP, although > you can use passwd-file as well. There's some good documentation on > the > web site, particularly http://wiki.dovecot.org/Authentication. > > Dan Sorry if this has been suggested, I'm coming in to the conversation late. There is a very detailed how-to on www.purplehat.org on setting up a Postfix server with dovecot and mysql. They even walk you through setting up spam filtering and anti-virus. HTH ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:49:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B977F16A46E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB3213C45A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBDInBpk054046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from support@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <47617EDD.5040509@monkeybrains.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:50:05 -0800 From: "Support (Rudy)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Falanga References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:49:12 -0000 Andrew Falanga wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on setting up a server for both WWW and e-mail. We're using > apache 2.2 w/PHP support (for phpWebSite) and for e-mail I'd like to stay > with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that will allow for > POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those here > who've used them? Everyone has mentioned dovecot -- maybe I should check it out -- but I have been using courier-imap for 5 or 6 years and like that POP/IMAP package. All clients connect fine, it does SSL (POPs/IMAPs) and never gives me any trouble. The multiple rc.d files are kinda silly. I've been using it on a mail machine to serve 200 domains and about 2,500 email addresses -- never seems to crash, never requires restarts. Oh, and I use sendmail as the MTA (with clamav/milter-regex/sid-milter/milter-greylist). - Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:51:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B6416A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:51:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF88113C465 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:51:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.146.190] (port=52678 helo=smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2t9x-0004ZH-IL; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:51:49 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4922 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2t9x-0005Yj-0B; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:51:49 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 76EDD39885; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:51:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from VAL00653.egypt.nl (VAL00653.egypt.nl [192.168.13.53]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:51:48 +0100 Message-ID: <20071213195148.7ky378lh80sg000k@www.boosten.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:51:48 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: Daniel Bye References: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> <20071213184206.GB1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> In-Reply-To: <20071213184206.GB1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:51:51 -0000 Quoting Daniel Bye : > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:30:21PM +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: >> Quoting James Harrison : >> >> > :passwordtime=150d:\ >> > :warnpassword=150d: >> >> Is it me, or did you forget the backslash here? > > No, that's correct. It's the last line of a class definition. The backslash > is used as a line continuation character, and is not necessary on the last > line. In fact, it must not be included, else it will cause the system to > interpret the next line as part of the same class definition, rather than > the start of the next. > Very good answer, *if* it were the last line of the class definition. I cut the last two lines from the original description from OP. So to OP: add a backslash to the warnpassword= line. Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 18:59:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D31D16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org (cpc5-cmbg1-0-0-cust497.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [86.6.1.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB2D13C467 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 8C8026142; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from brick.slightlystrange.org (brick.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EE6613F for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: (from danielby@localhost) by brick.slightlystrange.org (8.14.2/8.13.4/Submit) id lBDIxElH021577 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:14 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-questions@slightlystrange.org) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:14 +0000 From: Daniel Bye To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213185914.GC1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> <20071213184206.GB1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> <20071213195148.7ky378lh80sg000k@www.boosten.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071213195148.7ky378lh80sg000k@www.boosten.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A Subject: Re: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:59:17 -0000 --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:51:48PM +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: > Quoting Daniel Bye : >=20 > >On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:30:21PM +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: > >>Quoting James Harrison : > >> > >>> :passwordtime=3D150d:\ > >>> :warnpassword=3D150d: > >> > >>Is it me, or did you forget the backslash here? > > > >No, that's correct. It's the last line of a class definition. The backsl= ash > >is used as a line continuation character, and is not necessary on the la= st > >line. In fact, it must not be included, else it will cause the system to > >interpret the next line as part of the same class definition, rather than > >the start of the next. > > >=20 > Very good answer, *if* it were the last line of the class definition. =20 > I cut the last two lines from the original description from OP. Quite right. My apologies for being an unobservant, trigger-happy nit! Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYYECixf5fBYiFmoRAuqOAJ9Ep850TL+29TyYBbTcIj5fUnoHCgCffmik rsiViv5JFfbfdYBjnvJWj10= =NT0Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:00:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090B816A475 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FA813C478 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lBDIxbfM028124; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:59:37 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lBDIxbDV022563; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:59:37 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534FD1F800C; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:59:34 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> References: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:59:34 -0700 Message-Id: <1197572374.17297.62.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:00:43 -0000 On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 19:30 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: > Quoting James Harrison : > > > :passwordtime=150d:\ > > :warnpassword=150d: > > Is it me, or did you forget the backslash here? > > Peter It's you; the last option doesn't receive a backslash. Here's one of the prebuilt examples from login.conf: #xuser:\ # :manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\ # :cputime=4h:\ # :datasize=12M:\ # :vmemoryuse=infinity:\ # :stacksize=4M:\ # :filesize=8M:\ # :memoryuse=16M:\ # :openfiles=32:\ # :maxproc=48:\ # :tc=standard: It's commented out, but note that the last one doesn't receive a backslash. Well spotted, though! For ten minutes, I was convinced that the problem had to be backslashes, because I noticed I'd mistyped a couple. James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:03:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7A416A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov (mailwasher.lanl.gov [204.121.3.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B5113C465 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamesh@lanl.gov) Received: from mailrelay2.lanl.gov (mailrelay2.lanl.gov [128.165.4.103]) by mailwasher.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lBDJ2vS9028940; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:58 -0700 Received: from oppie-mail.lanl.gov (oppie-mail.lanl.gov [128.165.4.123]) by mailrelay2.lanl.gov (8.13.8/8.13.8/(ccn-5)) with ESMTP id lBDJ2vjr023838; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:57 -0700 Received: from [128.165.86.60] (p25dual1.lanl.gov [128.165.86.60]) by oppie-mail.lanl.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAFA1F800B; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:53 -0700 (MST) From: James Harrison To: Peter Boosten In-Reply-To: <20071213195148.7ky378lh80sg000k@www.boosten.org> References: <1197570177.17297.58.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> <20071213193021.wue4321qcuss00o8@www.boosten.org> <20071213184206.GB1085@brick.slightlystrange.org> <20071213195148.7ky378lh80sg000k@www.boosten.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Los Alamos National Labs Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:02:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1197572572.17297.65.camel@p25dual1.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.0 (2.8.0-33.0.1.el5) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CTN-5-MailScanner-Information: Please see http://network.lanl.gov/email/virus-scan.php X-CTN-5-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-CTN-5-MailScanner-From: jamesh@lanl.gov X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Daniel Bye , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: login.conf password options X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jamesh@lanl.gov List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:03:43 -0000 On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 19:51 +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: > Quoting Daniel Bye : > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:30:21PM +0100, Peter Boosten wrote: > >> Quoting James Harrison : > >> > >> > :passwordtime=150d:\ > >> > :warnpassword=150d: > >> > >> Is it me, or did you forget the backslash here? > > > > No, that's correct. It's the last line of a class definition. The backslash > > is used as a line continuation character, and is not necessary on the last > > line. In fact, it must not be included, else it will cause the system to > > interpret the next line as part of the same class definition, rather than > > the start of the next. > > > > Very good answer, *if* it were the last line of the class definition. > I cut the last two lines from the original description from OP. > > So to OP: add a backslash to the warnpassword= line. > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Ah! I see! No, I'd already caught that one about a minute after I sent off my original mail. My current default looks like: default:\ :passwd_format=md5:\ :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ :welcome=/etc/motd:\ :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES:\ :path=/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin /usr/local/bin ~/bin:\ :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\ :cputime=unlimited:\ :datasize=unlimited:\ :stacksize=unlimited:\ :memorylocked=unlimited:\ :memoryuse=unlimited:\ :filesize=unlimited:\ :coredumpsize=unlimited:\ :openfiles=unlimited:\ :maxproc=unlimited:\ :sbsize=unlimited:\ :vmemoryuse=unlimited:\ :priority=0:\ :ignoretime@:\ :umask=022:\ :passwordtime=150d:\ :warnpassword=150d:\ :sessiontime=1h30m:\ :warntime=1h29m: Good catch! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:41:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E9F16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:41:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E382713C468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [172.23.23.190] (lan23.xxiii.com [208.62.177.50]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDJfZw9003553; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:41:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <47618AF4.5000208@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:41:40 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Falanga References: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> <20071212205137.GA1043@brick.slightlystrange.org> <47615752.6060800@gmail.com> <27022.67.100.188.210.1197563222.squirrel@www.geekisp.com> <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <340a29540712130840s2e052f54ic027abbc9723e243@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:41:37 -0000 Andrew Falanga wrote: > sounds like everyone is sold on dovecot. Great!. I've a few questions. .... > anyone explain to me what problems they have with mail clients attaching? > See http://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients . This shows some interesting problems The developer is very adamant about writing dovecot strictly to the letter of the IMAP specification. He's also discovered many of the popular clients have bugs, and are unable to work (or at least have issues) with an IMAP server that goes purely by the rules. He refused to "break" his software to work around bugs on the client side, but ultimately compromised by writing in work-arounds that you can enable in the config file. You can enable them all if you like. -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:42:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B07C16A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E2F13C4D5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david.robillard@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so702682rvb.43 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=GNIlgRXWZa9+IEWBbvddB4PA38PEsy9OiQwTJKBOENg=; b=S6wlOHxG6yCuwKML6MLYjkMJGX5tPXQWcF/H5LF2EsBlWRZ8lzAMCF5CSr8ETz3HoZDGbzg5KU5vKLHSwcBe9+AqBjIcaAB07xZRUzj4O339Kxwi/1TAx++2O11were/gMlXvUuQ8Ypjcpm7WAQEp4seqod/rVEtghunXZ/No14= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=kz7dR59ssu2F6ZGYWUWiFCPeaKpDGiAoN9i315NIvuVioX0kjGFrdHFjyBhUPqzAhwSfETWjR6oqck56+WizLwDwKst8lB08LMojF3b5q8eFo24CglE9oujNCK8/fCBr5alszyAL9SpiH/h5l69cvrPAxAtswXMqeElYd+OFtHs= Received: by 10.141.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr1354119rvi.161.1197574963443; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.62.14 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:42:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <226ae0c60712131142y11e77d52v3e444221e838473d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:42:43 -0500 From: "David Robillard" To: "Yves Vogl" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How to install FreeBSD remotely from Debian Linux Environment? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:45 -0000 >> Maybe you can get some ideas from this (now outdated) script I used >> for this >> purpose years ago: >> >> http://www.bzerk.org/files/mk-livecd > > thank you - this is what I've been looking for. Not a complete > solution - but a base to avoid figuring out those nasty hacks by > myself :) Say Steve, If you make it out alive and everything works as planned, may I suggest you post your solution online so that the entire FreeBSD community can benefit from your efforts? Good luck & Have fun! David -- David Robillard UNIX systems administrator & Oracle DBA CISSP, RHCE & Sun Certified Security Administrator Montreal: +1 514 966 0122 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:44:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F8516A46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaikat@email.unc.edu) Received: from smtp.unc.edu (smtpsrv0.isis.unc.edu [152.2.1.139]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E004013C468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jaikat@email.unc.edu) Received: from [152.23.73.66] (dhcp29276.wireless.unc.edu [152.23.73.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.unc.edu (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBDJhGQP001063 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:43:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47618B52.5010203@email.unc.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:43:14 -0500 From: Jay Aikat Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: em driver for FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:03 -0000 Hi, I am trying to install the em-6.6 driver (downloaded from the Intel site) into my FreeBSD 6.0 kernel. I followed their instructions. After running 'make cleandepend', when I run 'make depend' I get the following (working directory is /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/mykernel): ../../../dev/em/if_e1000.c:3525:48: macro "TBI_ACCEPT" requires 7 arguments, but only 5 given mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Any ideas what's wrong here? Thanks, --Jay. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:47:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DAD416A46C for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:47:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (mailgw2.fraunhofer.de [153.96.1.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949AE13C45A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de) Received: from mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (8.13.5+/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBDJl13Z007054; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de [195.37.77.164]) by mailgw2.fraunhofer.de (8.13.5+/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBDJl0rf007013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:47:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de (bohr [10.147.9.231]) by pluto.fokus.fraunhofer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with SMTP id lBDJl0ld007020; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:47:00 +0100 (MET) Received: from rigel ([10.147.65.195]) by EXCHSRV.fokus.fraunhofer.de with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:47:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:46:57 +0100 From: Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, cwhiteh@onetel.com Message-ID: <47618c31.JEfv81+Kw8fWOkOX%Joerg.Schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de> User-Agent: nail 11.22 3/20/05 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2007 19:47:00.0759 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED7EE270:01C83DC0] X-Fraunhofer-Email-Policy: accepted Cc: Subject: Re: cdrtools versions and hal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:47:04 -0000 >I recently removed sysutils/cdrtools and installed cdrtools-devel >instead because cdrecord in cdrtools doesn't have prodvd included and >cdrtools-devel does (helped by a recent post from the author pointing >out that cdrecord from cdrtools is quite old). FreeBSD uses an extremely outdated cdrtools vertsion for unknown reasons. >Anyway, I just csupped my ports and ran portmanager -s which told me >that cdrtools-2.01_6 is missing and hal-0.5.8.20070909 is built with OLD >dependency: cdrtools-2.01_6. Can I make cdrtools-devel to be the >dependency of hal so that it will get rebuilt with it and make the >cdrtools missing message disappear? Will I break things if I do? Is hald on FreeBSD working or has it the same conceptional bugs as on Linux? Hald on Solaris is based on the old vold support code in the disk driver sd.c Hald on Linux does it's own test unit ready and seems to do incorrect conclusions from state transitions. Linux in addition offers more than one driver entry for the devices that are able to send conflicting simultaneous commands. Hal in general is missing a concept for dealing with multi session writes. On Solaris, it wait until the tray is opened again after an empty CD/DVD has been inserted. What is the state on FreeBSD? Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 19:58:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AFEF16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6594213C457 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from support@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBDJwVL5079448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:58:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from support@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <47618F1C.4090807@monkeybrains.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:59:24 -0800 From: "Support (Rudy)" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Aikat References: <47618B52.5010203@email.unc.edu> In-Reply-To: <47618B52.5010203@email.unc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: em driver for FreeBSD 6.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:58:39 -0000 Using 3rd party drivers is usually a DRAG. Just update your OS! Looks like the 6-STABLE (aka 6.3-RC1) has a newer driver. char em_driver_version[] = "Version - 6.7.3"; Rudy Jay Aikat wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to install the em-6.6 driver (downloaded from the Intel > site) into my FreeBSD 6.0 kernel. > > I followed their instructions. > After running 'make cleandepend', when I run 'make depend' I get the > following (working directory is /usr/src/sys/i386/compile/mykernel): > ../../../dev/em/if_e1000.c:3525:48: macro "TBI_ACCEPT" requires 7 > arguments, but only 5 given > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Any ideas what's wrong here? Thanks, > --Jay. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 20:15:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F6216A41B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60DEF13C442 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBDKFp7Z085884 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:15:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <4761932D.7030106@monkeybrains.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:16:45 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Watanabe Kazuhiro References: <475F7CDA.60409@monkeybrains.net> <20071212153830.DE9FD4E30F@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <20071212153830.DE9FD4E30F@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020503030206000206080106" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:15:54 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020503030206000206080106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Watanabe Kazuhiro wrote: > Hi. > > At Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0800, > Rudy wrote: >>> After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better >>> phrase my question: >>> how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? ... > Audacity will be able to specify a different dsp device for the > recording and playback device via the "Audacity Preferences" panel > ("Edit" -> "Preferences" -> "Audio I/O"); e.g. /dev/dsp0 for playback, > and /dev/dsp1 for recording. > > Have you tried such configulation? > --- > Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) No luck. I only see '/dev/dsp'. It seems that dsp likes to automatically do stuff, but is not smart enough to always do the right thing. Rudy --------------020503030206000206080106-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 20:17:11 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D060C16A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7558213C468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8378939824; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:17:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47619345.8000400@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:17:09 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ghirai References: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> <20071213132535.194adf58.ghirai@ghirai.com> In-Reply-To: <20071213132535.194adf58.ghirai@ghirai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto Subject: Re: PF blocking even if set to pass all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:17:11 -0000 Ghirai wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:19:03 -0200 > "Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto" wrote: > >> Hi guyz, like I've said in other topic, I'm building a BSD box that'll act >> as a gateway between three private networks and the internet. I want that >> each private network can ping to each other, and I can do that till I >> activate my pf firewall. When I do pfctl -e it stop working. >> >> The output of pfctl -sr is: >> pass in all >> pass out all >> >> So I guess it would pass anything, why it isn't happening? >> >> Hugs, >> Alaor >> _______________________________________________ > > You need to specify from/to what interface it should pass (if you have more > than one NIC, which i assume you do, since the box is acting as a router). You do not need to specify interface, if no interface is specified the rule is applied to all interfaces. In fact you could have just pass all but you may prefer pass quick all keep state I think it is possible to set a default rule, which for security should be block, which means that any packet that falls through your rule set will be blocked. Therefore, you should have "pass quick". The official guide is really good: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html Try using snort or tcpdump on each interface to see where the packet goes missing. Say you ping from a host on the network attached to em0 to a host on the network attached to em1, sniff on each interface and see if the packet comes through. Cheers, Erik -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 20:32:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F0116A41B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448A913C4CE for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57742 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2ujb-0006lt-4D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:32:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 30358 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:32:35 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:32:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 72307 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Dec 2007 21:32:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:32:35 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Chris Whitehouse Message-ID: <20071213203235.GA72291@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Whitehouse , Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <475F1727.8050501@studsvik.com> <20071212111050.GA4575@basement.net> <47600343.2000300@studsvik.com> <476015D9.6070604@onetel.com> <47614A15.2060003@gmail.com> <4761564C.8010305@studsvik.com> <476155C4.7050905@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <476155C4.7050905@onetel.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J2ujb-0006lt-4D. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1J2ujb-0006lt-4D d1dd313ca9b5b9390a04f9cf722b11de Cc: Patrick.Baldwin@studsvik.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mounting Western Digital USB drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:32:44 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 03:54:44PM +0000, Chris Whitehouse wrote: > Patrick Baldwin wrote: >> Tsetsbold Narantungalag wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> have you tried this before: >>> >>> #mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb >>> >> I hadn't initially, but I have now: >> # mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usbdrive >> mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Invalid argument >> And dmesg: >> umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/1.04, addr 2 >> da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 >> da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device >> da0: 40.000MB/s transfers >> da0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 19457C) >> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry >> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry >> mountmsdosfs(): disk too big, sorry >> ...which seems to suggest the drive is to big for mount_msdosfs >> to work. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Did you see my reply the other day? > > I don't know how it is now but there used to be an upper limit on FAT32 > filesystem size in FreeBSD, 128gb I believe. You could get round it by > recompiling your kernel with MSDOSFS_LARGE but there were some limitations > on it's use. I'm sure google would find further info. In the latest versions of FreeBSD this has been changed from a kernel option, to a mount time option. Try 'mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0s1 /mnt/usb' If that does not help you might wish to run 'fdisk /dev/da0' and 'file /dev/da0s1' to find out what the disk is already formatted as. If nothing else works I guess you can always use fdisk/bsdlabel/newfs to reformat the disk with a standard FreeBSD filesystem - assuming that there is not already some files on that disk that you wish to read. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 20:38:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40CFC16A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:38:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from fran.basement.net (fran.basement.net [66.139.76.84]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF58A13C46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:38:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: from faith.basement.net (adsl-065-013-140-007.sip.bna.bellsouth.net [65.13.140.7]) by fran.basement.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id lBDKbl9p014858; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:37:47 -0600 Received: from faith.basement.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by faith.basement.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDKbkjh098733; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:37:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) Received: (from trix@localhost) by faith.basement.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBDKbjco098732; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:37:45 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from trix@basement.net) X-Authentication-Warning: faith.basement.net: trix set sender to trix@basement.net using -f Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:37:44 -0600 From: Trix Farrar To: Cesar Amaya Message-ID: <20071213203739.GA98668@basement.net> Mail-Followup-To: Trix Farrar , Cesar Amaya , Jerry McAllister , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" References: <47616D7D.9070402@123.com.sv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47616D7D.9070402@123.com.sv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on fran.basement.net Cc: Jerry McAllister , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:38:12 -0000 --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:35:57AM -0600, Cesar Amaya wrote: > Do I create the sendmail.mc file from scratch because I don=B4t have any= ?=20 > I just have a freebsd.mc file. >=20 Be sure to make a backup of /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Then, should be able to add the line to /etc/mail/freebsd.mc, run make, and copy /ett/mail/freebsd.cf to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. --=20 John D. "Trix" Farrar __\\|//__ Basement.NET trix@basement.net (` o-o ') http://www.basement.net/ -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYZgTUn6S0hqD4tsRAklHAJ9RMiSQnXXbQHm78AZJRV/Th8jTLQCglMIP Aj+ra9vSGIvjc2PHBhuK7g4= =cLDI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 20:40:28 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10DCD16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE9F13C4E5 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBDKeMbo095329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <476198EB.5010802@monkeybrains.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:41:15 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Nelson References: <4754C19E.5060708@monkeybrains.net> <4754CD5B.90605@daleco.biz> <4754DD17.6050701@monkeybrains.net> <20071204074444.GB12505@dan.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <20071204074444.GB12505@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron pile up! Lot's of "cron: running job (cron)" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:40:28 -0000 Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Dec 03), Support (Rudy) said: >> Below is part of the cron... Seems like any random cronjob can get >> clogged up... load varies from 0.2 to 1.0 on this dual-core box. I >> rebooted the box -- cron's continue to slowly pile up. >> >> One of the cronjobs that is 'stuck' is this one: /root/bin/raid-status.sh >> which can be found here: >> http://www.monkeybrains.net/~rudy/example/raid_status.html >> >> Forgot to mention, I am running: >> 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #3: Thu May 31 01:18:15 PDT 2007 >> >> OH, ps shows this: >> 58383 ?? D 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) >> 58384 ?? IVs 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) > > In general, when troubleshhoting, "ps axlw" is a more useful command. > It adds among other columns, the MWCHAN one, which details exactly why > a process is stuck in the D state. > > Anyway, cron does a fork and then a vfork creating a child and a > grandchild process. I'm sort of surprised at the amount of code > between vfork and exec in the grandchild in > /src/usr.sbin/cron/cron/do_command.c . Since process 3 is actually > using process 2's address space one must be extremely careful not to > modify static variables or change other global state that would affect > the parent once it resumes execution, and all the logging, > environment-setting, and user-context calls are certain to mess with > the parent's state, especially with nss modules in the mix. I'd > personally recompile cron with all vforks replaced with fork and see > what happens. > > It couldn't hurt to update to a newer kernel version along the RELENG_6 > branch as a test, I guess. Note that your uname will change to > 6.3-PRERELEASE, but apart from causing lsof to complain, you should be > okay. > >> /var/log/cron has this entry: >> Dec 3 20:16:00 pita /usr/sbin/cron[58384]: (root) CMD (/root/bin/raid-status.sh CRON) >> >> BUT there is no 'raid-status.sh' stuck in the "ps axw". Seems like the >> vfork set off the cronjob, it ran, but then cron didn't 'stop' executing. >> Any debuggin tips? > > Can you tell if raid-status.sh ever ran? i.e. is process 2 > stuck at the start of vfork or at the end. I added this line to the top of my cronjob: logger -t DEBUG "$0: $$" and cron seems stuck BEFORE the script is ever run. Whether it sticks or not appears random, as plenty of log lines are showing up with the output of the logger command in my /var/log/messages. # tail /var/log/messages Dec 13 11:16:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 64414 Dec 13 12:00:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 80115 Dec 13 12:00:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 80119 Dec 13 12:11:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 84283 Here is the ps output: # ps axlw UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS MWCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 85939 82253 0 8 0 2148 1560 ppwait D ?? 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) 0 85940 85939 0 4 0 2148 1560 sbwait IVs ?? 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) # grep 85940 /var/log/cron Dec 13 12:16:00 pita /usr/sbin/cron[85940]: (root) CMD (/root/bin/raid-status.sh CRON) - Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 20:42:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D1916A419 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053E613C457 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:52878 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2usz-0004Qv-5X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:42:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 30399 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:42:25 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:42:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 72444 invoked by uid 1001); 13 Dec 2007 21:42:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:42:25 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran?= Nilsson Message-ID: <20071213204225.GB72291@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran?= Nilsson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071213001002.GA60304@owl.midgard.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J2usz-0004Qv-5X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1J2usz-0004Qv-5X aa9c761751ad155bb29b7bfd84e559f9 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:42:27 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:39:21PM +0100, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > I have come a bit further. It seems that if I create a 2TB drive it all g= oes > good. But it doesn't seems to work when doing a large 5TB drive. > Is there some limitations on fdisk, and the size on partitions? Can't it > exceed 2TB? The machine is a ordinary Core 2 duo 6750 with 4GB of ram. Yes, I believe fdisk and bsdlabel both have a limitation at 2TB. If you partition the disk using GPT instead it should work with large disks. Unfortunately I don't think sysinstall supports GPT, and most BIOS do support booting from a GPT partitioned disk, so the boot volume needs to be smaller than 2TB. >=20 > /Regards Goran >=20 > On Dec 13, 2007 5:39 PM, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: >=20 > > On the controller there it says that it supports freebsd 6.1. And yes > > there is documentation on how to install freebsd 6.1 on the raid. > > But for now i have installed freebsd on a RAID1 system, and i have prob= lem > > getting the card detcted, i run a 5TB RAID 6 on this card. > > Didn't thought that it could be that much differens between version 6.1= and > > 6.2. Gonna try to reinstall. After the reinstall i got the card up and > > running. I see it get detected and it all looks ok. I go in and do a fd= isk > > on the drive and label/mount it. I do all this in sysinstall. > > I can see that the drive is 4648GB so it all looks ok with the RAID 6 > > Drive. > > When i later quit sysinstall and check the mounts i see that the drive > > space is 532GB and available space is 500GB. This looks totally wrong. = Is > > there any limitations that im not aware of? > > > > /Goran > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 1:10 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under > > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > > > > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > > > > For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.1, > > > but > > > > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > > > > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up and > > > running, > > > > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the generic kerne= l, > > > > So the most should be in there? > > > > > > > > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? > > > > > > As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card included with a= ny > > > FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been > > > included in > > > GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have been in 6.2= also. > > > > > > > > > It is quite possible however that Promise provides their own FreeBSD > > > driver > > > for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which > > > version(s) > > > of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or read their > > > documentation where such information can likely be found. > > > > > > --=20 Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 21:15:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B709416A421 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743FE13C4D1 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite ([24.166.217.200]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071213205947.BAMF2633.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@satellite> for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:59:47 +0000 Message-ID: <001901c83dcb$10632e90$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:59:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: FreeBSD and WiFi with captive portal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:05 -0000 Hello, I'm looking to set up a WiFi gateway with two nics, and iptables. The catch is i have to use a captive portal as well to ensure all traffic goes to a single destination. I've read about several packages, but haven't seen any docs that say how to integrate everything. If anyone has this setup i'd appreciate knowing what software your using, and experiences with it, positive or negative. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 21:15:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1EA16A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10AB13C4E9 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmehler26@woh.rr.com) Received: from satellite ([24.166.217.200]) by hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com with SMTP id <20071213210347.VUSC22267.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@satellite> for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:03:47 +0000 Message-ID: <002001c83dcb$9fa909d0$0200a8c0@satellite> From: "Dave" To: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:03:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: FreeBSD and WiFi with Captive portal, correction X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:06 -0000 Hello, In my last msg i posted on captive portal, i mentioned iptables i meant pf, i was thinking about a reinstallation of a CentOS box that came up, while i was writing and transposed iptables with pf. As i said i've seen docs on this but nothing saying how to link it all together. Thanks. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 21:22:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0CD16A494 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED3B13C4DB for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:22:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=53495 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2vVf-0002cK-S7; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:23 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:5054 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J2vVR-0001jJ-2J; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:23 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 7B13139885; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from xp.egypt.nl (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:08 +0100 Message-ID: <20071213222208.yx3zsbfbw0s40k8s@www.boosten.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:08 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: Dave References: <001901c83dcb$10632e90$0200a8c0@satellite> In-Reply-To: <001901c83dcb$10632e90$0200a8c0@satellite> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and WiFi with captive portal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:22:30 -0000 ----- Message from dmehler26@woh.rr.com --------- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:59:33 -0500 From: Dave Reply-To: Dave Subject: FreeBSD and WiFi with captive portal To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Hello, > I'm looking to set up a WiFi gateway with two nics, and iptables. > The catch is i have to use a captive portal as well to ensure all > traffic goes to a single destination. I've read about several packages, > but haven't seen any docs that say how to integrate everything. If > anyone has this setup i'd appreciate knowing what software your using, > and experiences with it, positive or negative. > Thanks. > Dave. _______________________________________________ Two words come to mind: - m0n0wall (http://m0n0.ch) a great, FreeBSD based firewall with captive portal (I'm using this one for a long time) - Chillispot (http://www.chillispot.info) - no experience. Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 21:35:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264A316A526 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:35:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EF313C46E for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from netslists@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so276191anc.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:35:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=iwPlBiRUdXpJ7W7pEK53Cs5ZUN7d1iBG78J7AHny728=; b=qYLMBqqYF8H3IjuT10daaXF2d4mAw3e3+XlXn6J/j29XNgo5OZH3aiIVndNdI3K71ChDfeJAx5BtitMwnN04VqyZgTZ+hhow5UsKRzWRHiwMfJPVThVgZSjj+XRXD8DIHc2uobkalXS5LkempkEpRffJDR9BFk/U6+EbuDNLGQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IhEx3gzkS9bImncspzujlaJnyq2mhY2qPOI3uVEYzaEcZKvcBAXN9hSLOO899pBhFKBPzVY/7McGHL4sz7ChPgADRWJyZOqGe6fzTFB+c3Ca8d6eKny2Wx2IFZlbz+PovjrvI/gft5hSbWFta7MCljsxjynjv0uq/OgrEmQ4POg= Received: by 10.100.112.6 with SMTP id k6mr5106324anc.110.1197581728505; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.12.8? ( [97.101.40.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z26sm3020975ele.2007.12.13.13.35.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:35:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4761A597.8060901@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:35:19 -0500 From: Sten Daniel Soersdal User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rudy References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <4760CFC3.7060904@ibctech.ca> <4760D5C8.2010804@monkeybrains.net> In-Reply-To: <4760D5C8.2010804@monkeybrains.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Steve Bertrand , Kurt Buff , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:35:30 -0000 Rudy wrote: > Steve Bertrand wrote: >>>> * Once it is setup then it would require no additional maintenance. >>>> * Potential spam messages are marked with a special header that can be >>>> filtered on user discretion on their local mail client software. >> >>> Yes, one recommendation for sure. Give up on your first goal. It'll >>> never happen, because fighting spam is an arms race, with new tactics >>> needing to be adopted. >> >> Amen (or Ahem, or what BSDie would say). There will *ALWAYS* be >> maintenance. If you are not developing new regexs and/or solutions to >> fight the daily produced techniques that make up SPAM, then you are >> implementing them. > > I have found spam assassin with nightly updates of the helpful (there > are other people developing new regexs daily). > > 48 5 * * * /usr/local/bin/sa-update --channel updates.spamassassin.org > && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd restart > > There are other channels you can subscribe to. > > Another super helpful bocker is to block all inbound connections from > IPs without reverse DNS. Don't forget to virus check your email while > you are at it -- there are several packages (clamav is one). And > finally, a couple of RBLs added into the mix are helpful. Awesome, i didn't see the subscriptions on their website. This is exactly what i need. -- Sten Daniel Soersdal From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 21:45:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C03216A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:45:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: from asgard1.americatelsal.com (asgard.americatelsal.com [200.13.161.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E5813C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:45:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from csar@123.com.sv) Received: (qmail 13156 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:59:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (200.13.161.68) by asgard1.americatelsal.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:59:29 -0000 Message-ID: <4761A888.20407@123.com.sv> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:47:52 -0600 From: Cesar Amaya User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trix Farrar , Cesar Amaya , Jerry McAllister , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Questions" References: <47616D7D.9070402@123.com.sv> <20071213203739.GA98668@basement.net> In-Reply-To: <20071213203739.GA98668@basement.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 071212-0, 12/12/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: /tmp: filesystem full X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:45:14 -0000 > Be sure to make a backup of /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. Then, should be > able to add the line to /etc/mail/freebsd.mc, run make, and copy > /ett/mail/freebsd.cf to /etc/mail/sendmail.cf. > > o.k. it seems it worked, hope don´t get that messages anymore. thank you very much. regards!!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:03:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A8116A46B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: from mail.cepheid.org (aleph.cepheid.org [72.232.60.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B5613C4DB for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erik@cepheid.org) Received: by mail.cepheid.org (Postfix, from userid 1006) id AB5DC9B4059; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:03:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:03:08 -0600 From: Erik Osterholm To: Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto Message-ID: <20071213220308.GA78516@aleph.cepheid.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erik Osterholm , Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PF blocking even if set to pass all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:10 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:19:03AM -0200, Alaor Barroso de Carvalho Neto wrote: > Hi guyz, like I've said in other topic, I'm building a BSD box that'll act > as a gateway between three private networks and the internet. I want that > each private network can ping to each other, and I can do that till I > activate my pf firewall. When I do pfctl -e it stop working. > > The output of pfctl -sr is: > pass in all > pass out all > > So I guess it would pass anything, why it isn't happening? > > Hugs, > Alaor You aren't doing any encapsulation or anything else unusual, are you? Note that unless you specificy a protocol, pass rules will only match tcp, udp, or icmp (or the v6 equivalents, I believe.) Erik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:14:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA0A16A469 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D2C13C4DB for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBDMEr3l047998 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBDMErPI047997 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:14:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:14:53 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071213221453.GA47967@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: what is /dev/xpt0/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:14:55 -0000 this probably is irrelevant to 90% of the list, but it's got me wondering. can anybody 'splain what kind of SCSI device xpt0 is? Is there a /dev/xpt1 if you're running a second optical drive/ thanks, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:25:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C1516A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from lsmtp.okstate.edu (lsmtp.okstate.edu [139.78.101.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798DA13C4CC for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:25:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (stwexhub02.it.okstate.edu) by lsmtp.okstate.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00CB273A@lsmtp.okstate.edu>; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:05:39 -0600 Received: from EXS1.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.192) by stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.251) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.751.0; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:05:39 -0600 Received: from smtp.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.2]) by EXS1.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:05:38 -0600 Received: from [139.78.110.83] ([139.78.110.83]) by smtp.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:05:38 -0600 Resent-From: Jason Joines Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:05:39 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <4761ACB3.2070406@okstate.edu> Resent-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Received: from exfe03.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.102.186]) by EXE2.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:36 -0600 Received: from mailhost01.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.5]) by exfe03.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:36 -0600 Received: from merlin.alerce.com (merlin.alerce.com [64.62.142.94]) by mailhost03.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBCNCZPH009348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:12:35 -0600 Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5937A33C5D for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "satchel.alerce.com", Issuer "alerce.com" (verified OK)) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2490D33C5B for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:12:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id AA5D81B18EB; Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:12:34 -0800 (PST) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:12:34 -0800 To: Jason Joines In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2007-12-12_08:2007-12-12, 2007-12-12, 2007-12-12 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=quarantine_notspam policy=quarantine score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0708230000 definitions=main-0712120133 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Dec 2007 23:12:36.0318 (UTC) FILETIME=[7BA60FE0:01C83D14] Cc: Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:25:42 -0000 Jason Joines writes: > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. > The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since > July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and > amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite > a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. > > At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will > FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if > another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? I can't give you a direct answer, but I was running 6-STABLE on an 8-way mac pro up until a couple of weeks ago (I had to give it back to it's owners and I'm waiting until after the next wwdc to buy my own...). I used bootcamp to partition a spare disk, then just booted from a freebsd cd and installed onto that partition. I ended up using refit as a boot doohickey (initially from an refit cd, eventually taking a chance on installing it onto the disk itself). There wasn't anything too surprising. g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:30:12 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A5816A418 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.bluestop.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:41c8:1:548a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B8913C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [IPv6:2a01:348:10f:0:240:f4ff:fe57:9871]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.bluestop.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CFC3015A; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:30:11 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <4761B26F.6000809@cran.org.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:30:07 +0000 From: Bruce Cran User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071213221453.GA47967@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071213221453.GA47967@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what is /dev/xpt0/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:30:13 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > this probably is irrelevant to 90% of the list, but it's got me > wondering. can anybody 'splain what kind of SCSI device xpt0 is? > Is there a /dev/xpt1 if you're running a second optical drive/ > thanks, > > gary It's the CAM transport layer driver - see xpt(4). -- Bruce From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:34:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 590C716A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3826613C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J2wdc-0006VD-Ma for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:34:46 -0700 Received: from dyn-128-196-226-198.math.arizona.edu ([128.196.226.198] helo=oko.bagdala.net ident=predrag) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J2wcr-0006Uf-FQ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:33:53 -0700 Message-ID: <47615123.6010401@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:34:59 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070818) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20071213221453.GA47967@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20071213221453.GA47967@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting oko.bagdala.net is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.8 (-----) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: what is /dev/xpt0/ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:34:49 -0000 Gary Kline wrote: > this probably is irrelevant to 90% of the list, but it's got me > wondering. can anybody 'splain what kind of SCSI device xpt0 is? > Is there a /dev/xpt1 if you're running a second optical drive/ > thanks, > > gary > > > man xpt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:40:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2DD16A417 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RE=57b9b7b3@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC7913C44B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RE=57b9b7b3@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA36F163F59 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4A5D0503 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:07:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:07:00 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071213220700.2fb3a962@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <47619345.8000400@locolomo.org> References: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> <20071213132535.194adf58.ghirai@ghirai.com> <47619345.8000400@locolomo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: PF blocking even if set to pass all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:40:20 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:17:09 +0100 Erik Norgaard wrote: > I think it is possible to set a default rule, which for security > should be block, which means that any packet that falls through your > rule set will be blocked. I'm not aware that there is, the FAQ suggests having block in all block out all at the top. > Therefore, you should have "pass quick". With PF the last rule to be hit will be used, which means the default is normally applied at the beginning and then overridden. You don't need quick to avoid dropping off the bottom of the rules, unless you are trying to replicate an IPFW script in PF. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:41:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A963816A41A for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C0013C448 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDMetAc041687; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:40:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9xpstgy0MaNm; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:40:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBDMdsZO041662; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:39:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4761B4B4.8080100@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:39:48 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rudy References: <4754C19E.5060708@monkeybrains.net> <4754CD5B.90605@daleco.biz> <4754DD17.6050701@monkeybrains.net> <20071204074444.GB12505@dan.emsphone.com> <476198EB.5010802@monkeybrains.net> In-Reply-To: <476198EB.5010802@monkeybrains.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dan Nelson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cron pile up! Lot's of "cron: running job (cron)" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:41:10 -0000 Rudy wrote: > Dan Nelson wrote: >> In the last episode (Dec 03), Support (Rudy) said: >>> Below is part of the cron... Seems like any random cronjob can get >>> clogged up... load varies from 0.2 to 1.0 on this dual-core box. I >>> rebooted the box -- cron's continue to slowly pile up. >>> >>> One of the cronjobs that is 'stuck' is this one: >>> /root/bin/raid-status.sh >>> which can be found here: >>> http://www.monkeybrains.net/~rudy/example/raid_status.html >>> >>> Forgot to mention, I am running: >>> 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #3: Thu May 31 01:18:15 PDT 2007 >>> >>> OH, ps shows this: >>> 58383 ?? D 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) >>> 58384 ?? IVs 0:00.00 cron: running job (cron) >> >> In general, when troubleshhoting, "ps axlw" is a more useful command. >> It adds among other columns, the MWCHAN one, which details exactly why >> a process is stuck in the D state. >> Anyway, cron does a fork and then a vfork creating a child and a >> grandchild process. I'm sort of surprised at the amount of code >> between vfork and exec in the grandchild in >> /src/usr.sbin/cron/cron/do_command.c . Since process 3 is actually >> using process 2's address space one must be extremely careful not to >> modify static variables or change other global state that would affect >> the parent once it resumes execution, and all the logging, >> environment-setting, and user-context calls are certain to mess with >> the parent's state, especially with nss modules in the mix. I'd >> personally recompile cron with all vforks replaced with fork and see >> what happens. >> >> It couldn't hurt to update to a newer kernel version along the RELENG_6 >> branch as a test, I guess. Note that your uname will change to >> 6.3-PRERELEASE, but apart from causing lsof to complain, you should be >> okay. >> >>> /var/log/cron has this entry: >>> Dec 3 20:16:00 pita /usr/sbin/cron[58384]: (root) CMD >>> (/root/bin/raid-status.sh CRON) >>> >>> BUT there is no 'raid-status.sh' stuck in the "ps axw". Seems like >>> the vfork set off the cronjob, it ran, but then cron didn't 'stop' >>> executing. Any debuggin tips? >> >> Can you tell if raid-status.sh ever ran? i.e. is process 2 >> stuck at the start of vfork or at the end. > > I added this line to the top of my cronjob: > logger -t DEBUG "$0: $$" > and cron seems stuck BEFORE the script is ever run. Whether it sticks > or not appears random, as plenty of log lines are showing up with the > output of the logger command in my /var/log/messages. > > # tail /var/log/messages > Dec 13 11:16:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 64414 > Dec 13 12:00:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 80115 > Dec 13 12:00:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 80119 > Dec 13 12:11:00 pita DEBUG: /root/bin/raid-status.sh: 84283 > > Here is the ps output: > # ps axlw > UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS MWCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND > 0 85939 82253 0 8 0 2148 1560 ppwait D ?? 0:00.00 > cron: running job (cron) > 0 85940 85939 0 4 0 2148 1560 sbwait IVs ?? 0:00.00 > cron: running job (cron) > # grep 85940 /var/log/cron > Dec 13 12:16:00 pita /usr/sbin/cron[85940]: (root) CMD > (/root/bin/raid-status.sh CRON) > > - Rudy Just as a favor to an old coot, could you change your crontab entry to read like this: */16 * * * * "/root/bin/raid-status.sh" and see if it makes any difference? Kevin Kinsey -- There are never any bugs you haven't found yet. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 22:57:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1D916A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from bifrost.locolomo.org (97.pool85-48-194.static.orange.es [85.48.194.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BCC913C45B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:57:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from norgaard@locolomo.org) Received: from sleipner.local (unknown [192.168.0.37]) by bifrost.locolomo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E2439842; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:57:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4761B8C1.3040200@locolomo.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:57:05 +0100 From: Erik Norgaard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RW References: <2949641c0712130319p3da37aeci92987c64516dabef@mail.gmail.com> <20071213132535.194adf58.ghirai@ghirai.com> <47619345.8000400@locolomo.org> <20071213220700.2fb3a962@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071213220700.2fb3a962@gumby.homeunix.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PF blocking even if set to pass all X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:57:06 -0000 RW wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:17:09 +0100 > Erik Norgaard wrote: > > >> I think it is possible to set a default rule, which for security >> should be block, which means that any packet that falls through your >> rule set will be blocked. > > I'm not aware that there is, the FAQ suggests having > > block in all > block out all > > at the top. > >> Therefore, you should have "pass quick". > > With PF the last rule to be hit will be used, which means the default > is normally applied at the beginning and then overridden. You don't > need quick to avoid dropping off the bottom of the rules, unless you > are trying to replicate an IPFW script in PF. You're right, I'm thinking of the feature from IP-Filter. Cheers, -- Erik Nørgaard Ph: +34.666334818 http://www.locolomo.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 23:07:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D14516A41B for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:07:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88F713C447 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:07:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J2x77-0008IH-Ke for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:05:09 +0000 Received: from feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu ([139.78.110.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:05:09 +0000 Received: from joines by feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:05:09 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason Joines Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:02:39 -0600 Lines: 42 Message-ID: References: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) In-Reply-To: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:07:04 -0000 George Hartzell wrote: > Jason Joines writes: > > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. > > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel > > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. > > The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since > > July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and > > amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite > > a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. > > > > At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will > > FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if > > another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? > > I can't give you a direct answer, but I was running 6-STABLE on an > 8-way mac pro up until a couple of weeks ago (I had to give it back to > it's owners and I'm waiting until after the next wwdc to buy my > own...). > > I used bootcamp to partition a spare disk, then just booted from a > freebsd cd and installed onto that partition. I ended up using refit > as a boot doohickey (initially from an refit cd, eventually taking a > chance on installing it onto the disk itself). > > There wasn't anything too surprising. > > g. > I didn't even know there was such a thing as an 8-way mac pro. Unfortunately that probably doesn't mean much as far as the xserve boxes go, at least not the intel xserve boxes. I'm running Linux on an intel imac and an intel powerbook pro, and others are on the intel powerbook and it runs on all the PowerPC stuff. However, all the intel boxes just mentioned have BIOS emulation. The intel xserve boxes do not, boot camp won't run on them and isn't supported on them. Jason =========== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 23:50:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98EB16A468 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48E613C458 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:50:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.130] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1J2xpD-0007If-4E; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:50:43 +0300 To: "Bin Cheng" References: <05AEAB71F81AD8408A534E2038630CC203A849FC@anakin.ironportsystems.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:50:15 +0300 In-Reply-To: <05AEAB71F81AD8408A534E2038630CC203A849FC@anakin.ironportsystems.com> (Bin Cheng's message of "Wed\, 12 Dec 2007 16\:13\:12 -0800") Message-ID: <88621832@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:50:46 -0000 On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:13:12 -0800 Bin Cheng wrote: > System can't boot from 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly cd-rom. I downloaded Are you sure you want to bbot from -bootonly CD? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html#AEN3258 How did you burn the CD? The common error for Windows users is to write the downloaded image as an ordinary file while it's an iso image. Do you have/had other OSes installed at this hardware? Do you check if BIOS is trying to use a CD to install? > 7.0-BETA4-i386-bootonly, 7.0- BETA4-i386-disc1 and 7.0-BETA4-i386-disc2 > first then burn it on the cd-rom. Any idea? Please let me know. Please show any display/console output you see while booting (and maybe an error message) and we'll be glad to help you. A breaf description of your hardware (motherboard/chipset/memory/CD DRIVE/etc) may also give us some tips. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 00:10:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE19016A421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.203]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A123413C45B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 40994 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 00:10:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=UZ3ocTTAQxNKAJa1bFlBwulFAw7VRew6/DjIgcZ1cY+HFZ2wg5uBiG7tIKiNrPp5xkgO3DBoXeNOCk1Rj6fytoTa/HxDeeGLoVxRqkSlitt7rliE+QLhD96ePZMG7V7jNsnYDIjWMDPEoKo/H/8BA0q1Kv65lmuXwsr46HhdDiU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 00:10:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 0.n9ekoVM1mQpGYxZM_Uh4ZTYInFUZbDDDk079p8LKmaX7L3nxi.npfWxEu1lCknupFy4VdWwm2wupUYu5Ox_urarqobwpYYXrGgfsC5pmEwTlHisck- In-Reply-To: <20071213055721.GW7374@ayvali.org> References: <83a69c3afc2408681310e88ad2f9dd80@prodigy.net> <20071213055721.GW7374@ayvali.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <47f805e90dec56b7d5cff3a0f472f5f6@prodigy.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: jekillen Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:12:15 -0800 To: "N.J. Thomas" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: ntpd configuration file changes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:51 -0000 On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:57 PM, N.J. Thomas wrote: > * jekillen [2007-12-12 20:42:47-0800]: >> Q: When making changes to ntp.conf it is necessary to restart the >> server? > > According to the ntpd docs, yes. The ntpd configuration docs say this: > > Ordinarily, ntpd reads the ntp.conf configuration file at startup > time in order to determine the synchronization sources and > operating > modes. > >> Q: How is that done? > > On FreeBSD, it is typically done via "/etc/rc.d/ntpd restart". > >> (I suspect ntpd reload or restart per rc script.. along the lines of >> apachectl restart or postfix reload??? Kill -HUP pid ??? ) I am >> looking at FreeBSD handbook and ntp documentation and have not found >> the answers. > > See the "Using rc under FreeBSD" section of the Handbook: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ > configtuning-rcd.html > > It is based on Luke Mewburn's excellent NetBSD rc.d system. See the > document, "The Design and Implementation of the NetBSD rc.d system" > (PDF) here, it is an excellent read: > > http://www.mewburn.net/luke/bibliography.html > > Thomas Thank you for your reply: I missed it in the ntp docs I have. But maybe I was reading to fast and impatiently. I asked these questions because I switched the configuration file that has all the tier 2 server listed to another machine and let the remaining machines get time from it. So, now I can get on with it. Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 01:05:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9845B16A469 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-04.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-04.bluehost.com [69.89.21.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2234C13C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:05:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 28809 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 01:05:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 01:05:44 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J2yzo-00088L-Id for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:05:44 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBE15ges019582 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:05:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBE15g2i019581 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:05:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:05:42 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:05:45 -0000 I ran across this today: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ Title: Csh Programming Considered Harmful I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Isaac Asimov: "Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is completely programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 01:12:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DA6016A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:12:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C25F13C467 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 92291 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 01:12:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=4HZhOWuL6V9SwNZmpXDuGYW8rgMvDSQxZHIphSwsc4jAx1rWlFyU6qfEWovjMS4xbdGXHpa1cmUV/zvpTqKMAvkNotYUvu5wcb58Ytzn0RUnk0qGeJhFD9x3I78+jLhLD1a/Bu2PDrSPo7eD9LmTAxm22TiQm6inK3tWkL3OgV4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO napoleon.local) (mike.jeays@rogers.com@99.224.73.40 with login) by smtp104.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 01:12:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 9WMUzUcVM1kubaNbkMJa2TQLGywIlQ0F581znwxs5Kc5WWwtpI05aqq7.UDTEz8NMA-- From: Mike Jeays To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:12:32 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:12:35 -0000 On December 13, 2007 08:05:42 pm Chad Perrin wrote: > I ran across this today: > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > Title: > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to > tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). As you can see, it is 11 years old, but still good advice. For interactive use, tcsh is not too bad, but for writing scripts of any length, sh or bash are considered better tools. For code that will run anywhere, stick to the sh subset. Bash has all the features one is likely to need for interactive use as well, and one could make a good case for it being the 'standard' shell now. -- Mike Jeays http://www.jeays.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 01:16:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1206E16A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4B113C459 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBE1GE9M018579; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:16:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBE1GENb018578; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:16:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:16:14 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Mike Jeays Message-ID: <20071214011614.GA18559@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:47 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:12:32PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > On December 13, 2007 08:05:42 pm Chad Perrin wrote: > > I ran across this today: > > > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > > > Title: > > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > > > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to > > tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). > > As you can see, it is 11 years old, but still good advice. For interactive > use, tcsh is not too bad, but for writing scripts of any length, sh or bash > are considered better tools. For code that will run anywhere, stick to the > sh subset. > > Bash has all the features one is likely to need for interactive use > as well, and one could make a good case for it being the 'standard' shell > now. Here it is. I find bash to be ugly and hate it for interactive use. I would rather just use /bin/sh. ////jerry > > -- > Mike Jeays > http://www.jeays.ca > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 01:16:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A73316A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2506D13C461 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.23] (adsl-068-209-177-221.sip.ard.bellsouth.net [68.209.177.221]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBE1Gsfw004835 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:16:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <4761D98F.9010906@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:17:03 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:16:56 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > I ran across this today: > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > Title: Csh Programming Considered Harmful > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to > tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). If you really want to troll, there's a "unix haters handbook" available as a pdf out there (stw) -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 01:22:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5B716A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from cartman.xxiii.com (cartman.xxiii.com [208.62.177.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F5613C447 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:22:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.23] (adsl-068-209-177-221.sip.ard.bellsouth.net [68.209.177.221]) by cartman.xxiii.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBE1MUd8004865 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:22:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bitabyss@gmail.com) Message-ID: <4761DADE.3010204@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:22:38 -0500 From: Rob User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214011614.GA18559@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071214011614.GA18559@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:22:31 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >> Bash has all the features one is likely to need for interactive use >> as well, and one could make a good case for it being the 'standard' shell >> now. Yeah, right... when Penguins Fly (hahahaha) [that was intended as a joke and dumb linux reference] > I find bash to be ugly and hate it for interactive use. > I would rather just use /bin/sh. ////jerry Seriously, Jerry, what do you dislike about it? If you ignore its features, it's no different from sh that I've seen. -R From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 02:21:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A5CA16A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3915313C465 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (dsl093-034-235.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBE2LVws091135 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:21:33 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:21:32 -0000 The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each list I subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to continue, that the server shows one format for all the messages that go out? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 02:25:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7624116A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C7013C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup202.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.202]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBE2PYCx022106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:25:47 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBE2PVJK002660 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:25:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBE2PUpR002659 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:25:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:25:30 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:25:58 -0000 On 2007-12-13 18:05, Chad Perrin wrote: > I ran across this today: > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > Title: > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies > to tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). Most of the points made in the FAQ about scripting large `applications' with csh ring a bell for me. Now, having said that, /bin/sh is nice for small to medium-sized scripts, but there is a certain point where even sh(1) becomes annoying. Do you have any _particular_ parts of the csh-whynot article that you would like to discuss, or this is a free for all flame? :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 02:40:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF7E16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AB3213C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 51206 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2007 02:40:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=4pWO1NNgwJ8NJ8XtXxD36yY/UJh/CIYuozxgxARDsQAoCj4fRWJLoO/6SjumxThQAUNvy6E8n+BVHE7fiDTXDmieqCpzNIfICy/nKfGwpROnjt27wHsl3pvFoBrkAF+y/i2HNkbPsTtsCQcO0CiOr+zBFS6AD3UDnElJuO7WDlg=; X-YMail-OSG: Wf70AYAVM1lID5NCdmuyZXyzxeuc4Vn6hiNyLY3TMDlFiV6ouDoqVinnw6Lg04YPjUaYdyvqWUvOubYXockC1bGpYF0WoBbbKJLauR1SVulUVBc0D6A- Received: from [99.235.10.146] by web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:40:23 EST Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:40:23 -0500 (EST) From: Michael S To: FreeBSD Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Subject: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:40:24 -0000 Good evening all, I was wondering if anyone bought M. Lucas' new FreeBSD book. How would you rate it? I already have the first edition, is it worth the money buying the second one? Thanks in advance, Michael Michael Sherman http://msherman77.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 02:42:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE0B16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775DA13C4E3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:42:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBE2gZ3k008072; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBE2gZHS008069; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:35 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> Message-ID: <20071213192131.Y7985@wonkity.com> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:42:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:42:37 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: > I ran across this today: > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > Title: > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to > tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). I like csh/tcsh as a shell, but don't use it to run scripts. /bin/sh is the One True Shell Script Interpreter; heathen bashisms are just as bad as csh constructs. When you can't use a higher-level language (Perubython), use shell scripts. But stick to plain sh, because if it's useful you'll probably end up having to convert it to sh anyway. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 02:44:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE6016A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C53B13C507 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:44:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBE2iBsd008099; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBE2iBMC008096; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:11 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Brian In-Reply-To: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> Message-ID: <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> References: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:11 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:44:14 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: > The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and > freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each list I > subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to continue, that the > server shows one format for all the messages that go out? Filtering on the List-Id header works. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 03:01:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A397C16A503 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B87B13C4D1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 2637 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 03:01:49 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail2.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2007 03:01:49 -0000 Message-ID: <4761F17F.9030908@chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:59:11 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Giorgos Keramidas References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:01:50 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-13 18:05, Chad Perrin wrote: >> I ran across this today: >> >> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ >> >> Title: >> Csh Programming Considered Harmful That was written sometime last millenium, I mean, it's REALLY old. The question is sort of flamebait (you ought to go ask it on, say, the Linux IRC channel, for well-reasoned, adult discussion (NOT!) In general, it's right, you really wouldn't want to use tcsh as a scripting language. Read it, you'll come out ahead, but understand, that tcsh is a heck of a good general purpose command shell for users. >> >> I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies >> to tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). > > Most of the points made in the FAQ about scripting large `applications' > with csh ring a bell for me. Now, having said that, /bin/sh is nice for > small to medium-sized scripts, but there is a certain point where even > sh(1) becomes annoying. > > Do you have any _particular_ parts of the csh-whynot article that you > would like to discuss, or this is a free for all flame? :) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 03:25:59 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7A016A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from entwistle.sonicboom.org (entwistle.sonicboom.org [66.93.34.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F16E13C468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:25:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (dsl093-034-235.snd1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.34.235]) by entwistle.sonicboom.org (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBE3Pv9m091418; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:25:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bri@brianwhalen.net) Message-ID: <4761F7C5.1060605@brianwhalen.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:25:57 -0800 From: Brian User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:25:59 -0000 Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: > >> The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and >> freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each >> list I subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to >> continue, that the server shows one format for all the messages that >> go out? > > Filtering on the List-Id header works. > > -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA I know I can also do from contains list@freebsd.org, do we really expect all users to deal with this duplicity? Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 03:33:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632C016A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:33:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberdog3k@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F1613C50A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:33:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberdog3k@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so664745wra.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:33:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=wnmKGs9lRE62f7UwQQxtKiWbvi7rZIgqpUxO8vbTj60=; b=vZQ1ZHYa8PCsAtECCkZekLiCpfLsOzUIDFguG+8WAzietvTwjSujVYKi4vZpRhU9UXb4HByZ3JyQAhCoG1wUwGa70x1AtX0LuBrav329z3TRA0bCQYbzEeNGuF6T6guhgE+xECEW/pd5RKMITKuyPd3deboNUQMi6uybIfc8MaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cdHwHjPdP/zp7Mqyx/IX8DIyuolvZEQtWW9dLee87wEFB0PTX0raXGcf61TySSgnYjpOskAbra42E2I/zasWRnD7TkjDB7iyp7RbjpQsilsGEahLXBL/PDQjZBujusnjrfabZFcdKLMABUzPDwBLKrDDdfzML/3m7XbUFZZd/2w= Received: by 10.151.10.7 with SMTP id n7mr956673ybi.144.1197603233297; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.182.11 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:33:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:33:53 -0500 From: "Matt LaPlante" To: "Chuck Robey" In-Reply-To: <4761F17F.9030908@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> <4761F17F.9030908@chuckr.org> Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:33:54 -0000 On Dec 13, 2007 9:59 PM, Chuck Robey wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2007-12-13 18:05, Chad Perrin wrote: > >> I ran across this today: > >> > >> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > >> > >> Title: > >> Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > That was written sometime last millenium, I mean, it's REALLY old. The > question is sort of flamebait (you ought to go ask it on, say, the Linux > IRC channel, for well-reasoned, adult discussion (NOT!) One could argue that making irrelevant, potentially insulting statements about alternative operating systems is: - not adult - not well-reasoned - flamebait > In general, > it's right, you really wouldn't want to use tcsh as a scripting > language. Read it, you'll come out ahead, but understand, that tcsh is > a heck of a good general purpose command shell for users. > > >> > >> I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies > >> to tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). > > > > Most of the points made in the FAQ about scripting large `applications' > > with csh ring a bell for me. Now, having said that, /bin/sh is nice for > > small to medium-sized scripts, but there is a certain point where even > > sh(1) becomes annoying. > > > > Do you have any _particular_ parts of the csh-whynot article that you > > would like to discuss, or this is a free for all flame? :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 03:34:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98E9E16A468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E40713C4E8 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup202.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.202]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBE3XYDe028035 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:33:49 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBE3XYu1003496; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:33:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBE3XYQN003495; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:33:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:33:33 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Chuck Robey Message-ID: <20071214033333.GA3455@kobe.laptop> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> <4761F17F.9030908@chuckr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4761F17F.9030908@chuckr.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:34:14 -0000 On 2007-12-13 21:59, Chuck Robey wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> On 2007-12-13 18:05, Chad Perrin wrote: >>> I ran across this today: >>> >>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ >>> >>> Title: >>> Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > That was written sometime last millenium, I mean, it's REALLY old. The > question is sort of flamebait (you ought to go ask it on, say, the Linux > IRC channel, for well-reasoned, adult discussion (NOT!) In general, it's > right, you really wouldn't want to use tcsh as a scripting language. Read > it, you'll come out ahead, but understand, that tcsh is a heck of a good > general purpose command shell for users. Tcsh is a fine shell. I'm using it all the time (that's how I found out that a buglet reported by Kris Kennaway a few months ago was indeed a bug which I could reproduce too). I just don't like it for scripting :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 03:11:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E01616A421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:11:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bramz4ever@yahoo.com) Received: from web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 040A313C461 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:11:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bramz4ever@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 57647 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2007 02:44:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GK9xKB3X3hEyVSa1OmPzD5BV9A0bEjmd0ZK5f/FctJcW26pkDs/kkhgcZ+IWOLDe8v02CRIqUrecQogtiyQ5iFgm57W3sTsC7vKbsHpsbXQZYFWZcwRiJGNvlNzmOdkSiqrUGYJ6nEpCKnH/C39nmF3sjGU3rPadX0L/nezU+As=; X-YMail-OSG: m9gJaSgVM1n4tfzHxPMlgpohWGJKTw8i6bvljwYl9iSDuGP5IOVOt62Yr4OGWkLi97fKLdF1E0KRAoB0ot5Xp2KPQvC1SxUpguaHMqtMijoOhDb0q3LamBdflvKI9HletDkx.mLHdAJGFg-- Received: from [167.205.23.5] by web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:44:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.158.1 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: Satria Bramana To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:44:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:11:35 -0000 Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me understand the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:18:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604BF16A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl (smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl [213.51.130.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4AE13C47E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:18:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@boosten.org) Received: from [213.51.130.188] (port=51113 helo=smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl) by smtpq1.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J320e-0001MC-Jp; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:18:48 +0100 Received: from cp268254-a.landg1.lb.home.nl ([84.25.65.88]:4819 helo=ra.egypt.nl) by smtp3.groni1.gr.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J320e-0006DF-4Z; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:18:48 +0100 Received: by ra.egypt.nl (Postfix, from userid 80) id 227B139885; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:11:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from xp.egypt.nl (xp.egypt.nl [192.168.13.35]) by www.boosten.org (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:11:08 +0100 Message-ID: <20071214051108.9wq536gzgg8c8w08@www.boosten.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:11:08 +0100 From: Peter Boosten To: Satria Bramana References: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.5) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:18:50 -0000 ----- Message from bramz4ever@yahoo.com --------- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: Satria Bramana Reply-To: Satria Bramana Subject: Webmail To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give > suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study > purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me understand > the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. > I have running: courier-imap and squirrelmail (development version 1.5.1). Currently I'm testing imp (within the Horde framework). Peter -- http://www.boosten.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:38:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A3716A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:38:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jake.conk@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0927613C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:38:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jake.conk@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so308888anc.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:38:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=v0BiqtLBYepaWGYMKmuuyGNKI5waivxcLYt6fDHtAZE=; b=a5ZUnsDN1r+N8NIher4P6kL4W007h8icDbE2UudbQytCLjadYgzjm0x4FrL3obJ1/5Yq6hkWhZKgDLN+6xtArF0w1Ab/vQGa3zDQ3yq4SPbGkzA9fIi+MJb9fgxG/Ge/Zq6Ka/ZMRTIx3tirAMpmOZNYae+yRFZkPw1VxyygrAI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=n1KQ2QAwBt7n5Z4vqUX0oTJtF/WEODy1zHx8o+6Ygt69AJjlc8oAVaupaPUSJv0wPospNEQ43k4jtT2hJVonXU+3aqpRzrg5vvwv4NnzaWUpAa1tcgMCsVM/z1UrgTy6MshlQgb1w9IFTMlIlvNNUI1z1gk5RTqVknrJxWUsSa4= Received: by 10.101.68.19 with SMTP id v19mr5886203ank.13.1197605620618; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? ( [24.24.191.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm5460450nzn.2007.12.13.20.13.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:13:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: From: Jake Conk To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:13:30 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) Subject: How to configure FreeBSD machine as a bridged router? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:38:15 -0000 Hello, I have 2 nic cards in my machine and I want to place this machine between my internet connection and my router without it looking like another router between the 2 networks (internet and my network). I want to connect the internet line in the first nic card and the line to my network in the second nic card as if it were a 1 port router in bridge mode that has 1 line with the internet and the second line that goes to my network. Is a setup like this possible with FreeBSD? The reason why I'm asking is because I want to configure this machine with the net.inet.tcp.inflight options and see if it boosts up data transfer speeds without changing my network configuration, just adding this device in front of it. Thanks, - Jake From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:40:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1240316A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88DA13C448 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:40:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE4eI3e036211; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:40:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Coen Watstaatervoor" , Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:41:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: RE: NIC "crashes" on heavy compile or HD action! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:40:21 -0000 file a PR Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Coen > Watstaatervoor > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:55 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: NIC "crashes" on heavy compile or HD action! > > > I'm running a Supermicro webserver with a fresh install op FreeBSD 6.2-P9. > With these hardware specs: > > > > Supermicro Superserver 5014CT P4 SATA > > 1x Intel Pentium 631 3.0Ghz SKT775 FSB800 2MB > > 2x Kingston 512MB DDR2 667 PC5300 > > 2x Seagate 80GB SATA > > 1x 3ware 8006-2LP SATA RAID > > > > When I try to install some add-ons, like PostgresSQL, the NIC seems to be > "bugging". I get complete time-outs or pings around 3000ms. The network > connection is up and running as is should but the server won't reply. > > > > There is no logging of any errors or problems and after the > compile (or even > a rm –rf /usr/ports) is finished the server is available again. > > > > Is there anyone who has seen this kind of behavior before? Are there any > tools, monitoring options, available so I can maybe get closer to > the cause > of this problem? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:40:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BCF16A421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A9013C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE4eI3g036211; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:40:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Andrew Falanga" , "User Questions" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:41:22 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <340a29540712121231p3524aa19u76fb867560915a32@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:40:22 -0000 We run large mailservers with uw-imap quite well. uw-imap has no problems dealing with 500MB mailboxes with 15,000 or more messages in them. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Falanga > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:31 PM > To: User Questions > Subject: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > Hi, > > I'm working on setting up a server for both WWW and e-mail. We're using > apache 2.2 w/PHP support (for phpWebSite) and for e-mail I'd like to stay > with sendmail for the MTA, but I've not used any servers that > will allow for > POP and IMAP. What in the ports would be good suggestions from those here > who've used them? > > thanks, > Andy > > -- > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is it such a bad thing? > A: Top-posting. > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:44:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854E416A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C6113C44B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F003823834DA; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:44:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:44:47 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712131944.52594.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Satria Bramana Subject: Re: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:44:58 -0000 On Thursday 13 December 2007, Satria Bramana said: > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give > suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study > purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me > understand the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. > I'd suggest horde, our version of "webmail edition" is the default settings in horde-meta. It works nicely with any mailserver IMAP, or POP and is very easy to configure. It can authenticate from about 10 different sources including dealing with LDAP, so it will work with just about any server situation I can think of. You can look it all over at http://www.horde.org, and almost all of the modules are available in the ports for easy install. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:45:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE41C16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8313D13C461 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE4jMDl036268 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:45:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:46:24 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20071213124552.BF44.A38C9147@seibercom.net> Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Gerard Seibert > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:46 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > > On December 13, 2007 at 11:40AM Andrew Falanga wrote: > > [ snip ] > > > Second, how do programs like dovecot manage users? Does each > user of the > > e-mail system need to be a user of the FreeBSD system > (installed locally)? > > No, Dovecot can handle virtual users just fine. I use it in > conjunction with > Postfix. You might want to read up on how to use virtual users > with Dovecot > and Postfix. Both sites offer extensive help and the both of > their respective > forums will be glad to assist you. > > Keep in mind with the FreeBSD db files for the password files, the old problems with linear searches of large passwords do not exist any longer. There is no benefit to virtualize users on a FreeBSD mailserver unless your bound and determined to use modified tools for every bit of management you want to do on the server - or unless your working with hundreds of thousands of users and a mailserver cluster. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:45:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFAF516A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F3313C459 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE4jMDj036268; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:45:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?= , Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:46:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: RE: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:23 -0000 Is this FreeBSD 64 or FreeBSD 32 bit? Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Göran Nilsson > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:39 AM > To: Göran Nilsson; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD > 6.2 > > > I have come a bit further. It seems that if I create a 2TB drive > it all goes > good. But it doesn't seems to work when doing a large 5TB drive. > Is there some limitations on fdisk, and the size on partitions? Can't it > exceed 2TB? The machine is a ordinary Core 2 duo 6750 with 4GB of ram. > > /Regards Goran > > On Dec 13, 2007 5:39 PM, Göran Nilsson wrote: > > > On the controller there it says that it supports freebsd 6.1. And yes > > there is documentation on how to install freebsd 6.1 on the raid. > > But for now i have installed freebsd on a RAID1 system, and i > have problem > > getting the card detcted, i run a 5TB RAID 6 on this card. > > Didn't thought that it could be that much differens between > version 6.1and > > 6.2. Gonna try to reinstall. After the reinstall i got the card up and > > running. I see it get detected and it all looks ok. I go in and > do a fdisk > > on the drive and label/mount it. I do all this in sysinstall. > > I can see that the drive is 4648GB so it all looks ok with the RAID 6 > > Drive. > > When i later quit sysinstall and check the mounts i see that the drive > > space is 532GB and available space is 500GB. This looks totally > wrong. Is > > there any limitations that im not aware of? > > > > /Goran > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 1:10 AM, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, Göran Nilsson wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under > > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > > > > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > > > > For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.1, > > > but > > > > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > > > > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up and > > > running, > > > > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the > generic kernel, > > > > So the most should be in there? > > > > > > > > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? > > > > > > As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card > included with any > > > FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been > > > included in > > > GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have > been in 6.2also. > > > > > > > > > It is quite possible however that Promise provides their own FreeBSD > > > driver > > > for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which > > > version(s) > > > of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or read their > > > documentation where such information can likely be found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Erik Trulsson > > > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:55:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E1A16A47D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF9613C4CC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:55:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBE4tRCh008720; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBE4tRGU008717; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:27 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Brian In-Reply-To: <4761F7C5.1060605@brianwhalen.net> Message-ID: <20071213214449.P8646@wonkity.com> References: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> <4761F7C5.1060605@brianwhalen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:55:27 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:55:29 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: > Warren Block wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: >> >>> The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and >>> freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each list I >>> subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to continue, that the >>> server shows one format for all the messages that go out? >> >> Filtering on the List-Id header works. >> > I know I can also do from contains list@freebsd.org, do we really expect all > users to deal with this duplicity? Okay, I see what you're saying. But it's not a duplicate if you just check for "From contains questions@freebsd.org", because that matches both "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" and "questions@freebsd.org". What I'm saying is that all messages from the list will have a unique List-Id header. For example: List-Id: User questions You can probably do something like List-Id contains questions@freebsd.org But I don't use Thunderbird enough to know for sure. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 04:56:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E4A16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3A113C44B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id j58so1129888hsj.11 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:56:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=D6rf9CGAKsqKLxG6+XTu8zBJ7KM8rfPz5gxH4fWeesE=; b=G8+872IvmUz6c6Uh+MbEVzfIo+lyO1C02djAZ0uzTZ0+qVy+kXxIndJxRhumR2DEO+iUzjJxl6xVaFWpKGR44LjWTWZ7H/geptxdg6E4YeaEjaooa0+5TOKXpyybo5Wj+ic71V7Obfr3RumKR0y1MXbyPyI4DDSnTTj3ZPrplow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=wi+Kly4eMLrhl8n0u8TXuJ28pKgzioUtqMv+UCYyI84KJXxITj/g9OLTwtBqed6hLIeYyCHDlxReNKYqfV6Hy4nEVyOu4Qd99sFsvoFAWqp56qc0oExHzJBLT5jXEviRbX7cVFQHBSFFJGVUvxhq9IwgHaNadftLWGnOE2opq9A= Received: by 10.70.49.4 with SMTP id w4mr4539406wxw.71.1197608185813; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:56:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:56:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64c038660712132056g3dec3142j633c452bda679e9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:56:25 -0700 From: Modulok To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Memory leak with conky, anyone else? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:56:28 -0000 I get the feeling Conky 1.4.8 (the sysutil), or one of the libs it links against, has a memory leak. I do not have any hard evidence yet (like a patch to fix it), but the memory consumption slowly climbs to what appears to be excessive. I did read the manual page about: "Conky is generally very good on resources. However, certain objects in Conky are harder on resources then others....If you do use them, please do not complain about memory or CPU usage, unless you think something's seriously wrong..." I am using those features, but I still think something is seriously wrong. The following is after running for 6.5 days: top; PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 791 Modulok 1 96 0 280M 278M select 42:37 0.00% conky ps -u; USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND Modulok 791 0.0 13.7 286708 284912 v0 S Fri09AM 42:35.18 conky Anyone else have similar issues? -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:02:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8170C16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from smtp224.math.arizona.edu (smtp224.math.arizona.edu [128.196.224.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7398613C47E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from punosevac@math.arizona.edu) Received: from Debian-exim by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with local-bsmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J32gK-0007gk-SR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:01:58 -0700 Received: from 71-220-152-133.tcsn.qwest.net ([71.220.152.133] helo=.domain.actdsltmp) by smtp224.math.arizona.edu with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1J32gA-0007gR-JI; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:01:42 -0700 Message-ID: <47620E31.80704@math.arizona.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:01:37 -0700 From: Predrag Punosevac User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070916) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Conk References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ACL-Warn: The HELO/EHLO greeting .domain.actdsltmp is invalid X-Outgoing-Spam-Score: -5.9 (-----) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to configure FreeBSD machine as a bridged router? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:02:01 -0000 Jake Conk wrote: > Hello, > > I have 2 nic cards in my machine and I want to place this machine > between my internet connection and my router without it looking like > another router between the 2 networks (internet and my network). I > want to connect the internet line in the first nic card and the line > to my network in the second nic card as if it were a 1 port router in > bridge mode that has 1 line with the internet and the second line that > goes to my network. Is a setup like this possible with FreeBSD? > > The reason why I'm asking is because I want to configure this machine > with the net.inet.tcp.inflight options and see if it boosts up data > transfer speeds without changing my network configuration, just adding > this device in front of it. > > Thanks, > - Jake > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:03:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408A316A46C for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C06513C469 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:03:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBE53DVb008761; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) with ESMTP id lBE53D9H008758; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:13 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Brian In-Reply-To: <20071213214449.P8646@wonkity.com> Message-ID: <20071213220036.K8646@wonkity.com> References: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> <4761F7C5.1060605@brianwhalen.net> <20071213214449.P8646@wonkity.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:03:13 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:03:15 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: >> Warren Block wrote: >>> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: >>> >>>> The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and >>>> freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each list I >>>> subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to continue, that the >>>> server shows one format for all the messages that go out? >>> >>> Filtering on the List-Id header works. >>> >> I know I can also do from contains list@freebsd.org, do we really expect >> all users to deal with this duplicity? > > Okay, I see what you're saying. But it's not a duplicate if you just check > for "From contains questions@freebsd.org", because that matches both > "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" and "questions@freebsd.org". > > What I'm saying is that all messages from the list will have a unique List-Id > header. For example: > > List-Id: User questions > > You can probably do something like > > List-Id contains questions@freebsd.org Oops, a dot, not an @ in the actual list ID. That should be List-Id contains freebsd-questions.freebsd.org > But I don't use Thunderbird enough to know for sure. I leave that for emphasis. -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:05:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F9E416A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E1713C45A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:05:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE55N10036416; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:05:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Rob" , "Andrew Falanga" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:06:25 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47618AF4.5000208@gmail.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:05:25 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Rob > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:42 AM > To: Andrew Falanga > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > Andrew Falanga wrote: > > sounds like everyone is sold on dovecot. Great!. I've a few > questions. .... > > anyone explain to me what problems they have with mail clients > attaching? > > See http://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients . This shows some > interesting problems > > The developer is very adamant about writing dovecot strictly to > the letter of the IMAP specification. He's also discovered many > of the popular clients have bugs, and are unable to work (or at > least have issues) with an IMAP server that goes purely by the rules. > > He refused to "break" his software to work around bugs on the > client side, but ultimately compromised by writing in > work-arounds that you can enable in the config file. You can > enable them all if you like. > Which is a really dumb attitude since the dovecot developer was not the author of the IMAP standard and probably was in diapers when the standard was first written: http://www.imap.org/about/history.status.html And in addition, who can use a server that no client can connect to? So there are a lot of mail clients that have IMAP bugs. So what? What is important? Users being able to manipulate mail on the server with their client of choice, or a server that is almost impossible to connect to? Consider also that the majority of webinterfaces to mailservers are written using the uw-c-client imap libraries. So you go ahead and install dovecot - then watch when you install a webinterface the port manager sucking in the uw imap stuff anyway. Might as well run the uw imap server if your going to run the uw libraries. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:20:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAE516A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633C313C467 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE5KTIQ036492; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:20:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Jake Conk" , Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:21:31 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Cc: Subject: RE: How to configure FreeBSD machine as a bridged router? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:20:31 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jake Conk > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:14 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: How to configure FreeBSD machine as a bridged router? > > > Hello, > > I have 2 nic cards in my machine and I want to place this machine > between my internet connection and my router without it looking like > another router between the 2 networks (internet and my network). I > want to connect the internet line in the first nic card and the line > to my network in the second nic card as if it were a 1 port router in > bridge mode that has 1 line with the internet and the second line that > goes to my network. Is a setup like this possible with FreeBSD? > > The reason why I'm asking is because I want to configure this machine > with the net.inet.tcp.inflight options and see if it boosts up data > transfer speeds without changing my network configuration, just adding > this device in front of it. > It won't. The extra fancy go-fast options in the TCP protocol are negotiated between sender and receiver. In any case, even if the router could do anything, by definition a bridged device, which is what your talking about here - is a layer 2 only device and cannot modify the packets in any way. If you would be willing to tell us exactly what your Internet connection is, what hardware/software devices it consists of, and what speeds it is supposed to be and what speeds your seeing, we could give you some advice that might help you out. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:25:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABEA16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2EB13C43E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE5PUVK036528; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:25:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Beech Rintoul" , Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:26:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200712131944.52594.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Satria Bramana Subject: RE: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:25:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Beech Rintoul > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:45 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Satria Bramana > Subject: Re: Webmail > > > On Thursday 13 December 2007, Satria Bramana said: > > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give > > suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study > > purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me > > understand the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. > > > > I'd suggest horde, our version of "webmail edition" is the default > settings in horde-meta. It works nicely with any mailserver IMAP, or > POP and is very easy to configure. It can authenticate from about 10 > different sources including dealing with LDAP, so it will work with > just about any server situation I can think of. You can look it all > over at http://www.horde.org, and almost all of the modules are > available in the ports for easy install. > We use IMP (the webmail portion of Horde is IMP, not horde BTW) and I will sing it's praises any day - it's the best webmail client out there and has features the other webmail clients are nowhere near providing - but to claim it's easy to configure is quite a stretch, to say the least. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:25:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACF716A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29E613C455 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE5PUVM036528; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:25:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Satria Bramana" , Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:26:33 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:25:32 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Satria Bramana > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:45 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Webmail > > > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give > suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study > purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me > understand the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. > > The simplest one out there is "webmin" and "usermin" Easy to install and easy to use. Utterly lacking in any advanced features though, but they will definitely help you to "understand the big picture about the mailserver" if anything will... Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:30:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D0216A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9926313C447 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:30:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE5UWk7036558; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:30:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Mike Jeays" , "FreeBSD Questions" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:31:33 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:30:33 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Mike Jeays > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:13 PM > To: FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. > > > Bash has all the features one is likely to need for > interactive use > as well, and one could make a good case for it being the 'standard' shell > now. > > The "standard" shell MUST be able to be statically compiled. You don't have access to all your nice dynamically loaded libraries when the only filesystem on your server that will mount is /, due to some disk error. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:35:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0247716A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:35:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1E813C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE5ZXMV036591; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:35:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Michael S" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:36:35 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:35:35 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Michael S > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:40 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Absolute FreeBSD > > > Good evening all, > > I was wondering if anyone bought M. Lucas' new FreeBSD > book. How would you rate it? > I already have the first edition, is it worth the > money buying the second one? If you bought and grokked the first book and have been using FreeBSD ever since, do you really need a book of any kind at this point? Don't you have enough experience under your belt to get by without a book? The operating system books - be it FreeBSD, Linux or Windows, serve an important function of helping people go from zero to 60 in getting up and going with their operating system of choice. But eventually you are going to outgrow them. There are always lots more people at 0 so the authors of these books will never starve, but you need to eventually strike out on your own. Ted Mittelstaedt Author: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide published 2000, Addison-Wesley No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 05:41:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FCBC16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snow.mountains.4@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734BF13C46A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:41:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from snow.mountains.4@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so871942rvb.43 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:41:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=wYs8v3HTNZSl+QcDGMhrFziSGrx59hoA6sec+C8fhE8=; b=JrQOrNcBaxMVR+dA5bU9X9hE7OqUvIQNISGNDtQvFq6PiIUUpsze7TVrjawTvMEkNFuBDobDoZ+pfkfn1H+OhQ7iOM1FNx1pELyVGL9wstDVuu2szRMmJrTJhEfRh03oj5QL5//jDm4IzWWUgFJQqzMzV8ByHoF+kmf72KlZuTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=mitue893bhfNhrnET6cBHnVKbJ29TcUJsMbrPHHPYEBPMQt6O1V/QOSEPzt9s6GYqJoSfMyPxAXef3+uaRK5QecncuZldizS3TGDmhiLp3gW3LXt1Znhs3W/gDniQR0aebjTdzE4T29c4qPyz9QEU7xMs1ztBU544Hc5/lRg/bI= Received: by 10.142.240.9 with SMTP id n9mr1293729wfh.6.1197609316201; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.188.11 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:15:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3cf9f8920712132115q341401dbhec96ca1ae3156432@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:15:16 +0000 From: "Snow Mountains" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Lost FreeBSD slices (labels?) after NetBSD install -- please help!! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:41:10 -0000 Hi, People, I have FreeBSD install on 80G disk that looked like this: ad1s1 ~ 2.4G ad1s2 ~23.0G ad1s3 ~19.1G ad1s4 ~38.0G, FreeBSD partition, sliced like this: ------------------------ ad1s4a / (507630 1K-blocks) ad1s4b swap ad1s4d /var ad1s4e /tmp ad1s4f /usr First three partitions are former fat/ntfs that I emptied, transformed to FreeBSD's ufs2 and used as FreeBSD storage. I used boot0cfg and my boot menu looked like this: F1 DOS (although nothing were installed in F1-F3, just ufs2 data) F2 DOS F3 DOS F4 FreeBSD Today, however, I decided to try a small NetBSD install on small ad1s1, I thought I could do no harm if I tell it to install itself onto first partition. So I passed through install, carefully checked partition1 (on wd0 disk according to it) for mark 'new fs', and sliced it did like this: wd0a / (around 550M) ... wd0e /usr (total ~2,4M, as described above) and left all other options (BSD labels etc.) as defaults. NetBSD installed and booted, menu looked like this: F1 BSD F2 DOS F3 DOS F4 FreeBSD However, FreeBSD is now unbootable!!! Then I loaded FreeSBIE (FreeBSD 6.2 live CD), tried 'boot0cfg -B /dev/ad1' (also with '-d 0x80'), but no help! Then I realized that ad1s4 slices are lost. This means: A) from FreeSBIE, there is only /dev/ad1s4, no a,b,d,e,f. If I do this: FreeSBIE# mount /dev/ad1s4 /mnt/ufs.4 this is former / (ad1s4a) and is of its size (~507M). I can't reach other slices! However, it gives me hope that NetBSD's slices are also invisible, although working from within itself: FreeSBIE# mount /dev/ad1s1 /mnt/ufs.1 gives also small NetBSD's / (its wd0a), not /usr etc. B) From NetBSD: FreeBSD's ad1s2 -> NetBSD's wd0f (readable, data ok) FreeBSD's ad1s3 -> NetBSD's wd0g (readable, data ok) FreeBSD's ad1s4a -> NetBSD's wd0h (just /, 507M, readable) others (ad1s4 d-f), containing /usr/home are lost! Please help me to recover my FreeBSD system. If I lost my data (ok, I understand they are buried, not erased), please tell me that gently. :-( many thanks in advance Sergi M From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 06:04:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E319016A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from mx1.highperformance.net (dsl081-163-122.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.163.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCA013C468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Received: from w16.stradamotorsports.com (w16.stradamotorsports.com [192.168.1.16]) by mx1.highperformance.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBE64Fe2071042 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:04:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcw@highperformance.net) Message-ID: <47621CE8.2000807@highperformance.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:04:24 -0800 From: "Jason C. Wells" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> <4761F7C5.1060605@brianwhalen.net> <20071213214449.P8646@wonkity.com> <20071213220036.K8646@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <20071213220036.K8646@wonkity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=2.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=failed version=3.1.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.6 (2006-10-03) on s4.stradamotorsports.com Subject: Re: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:04:18 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: > The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and > freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each > list I subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to > continue, that the server shows one format for all the messages > that go out? Filter on the Sender header. That is controlled by the list manager and doesn't have duplicate names. For -questions, the Sender is owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. Later, Jason From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 07:06:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A573916A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-46.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-46.bluehost.com [69.89.18.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 79A8B13C45A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 9493 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 07:06:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 07:06:26 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J34cr-000516-QJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:06:25 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBE76Owx020778 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:06:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBE76N1K020777 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:06:23 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:06:23 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071214070623.GC20150@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:06:26 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 04:25:30AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On 2007-12-13 18:05, Chad Perrin wrote: > > I ran across this today: > > > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > > > Title: > > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > > > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies > > to tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). > > Most of the points made in the FAQ about scripting large `applications' > with csh ring a bell for me. Now, having said that, /bin/sh is nice for > small to medium-sized scripts, but there is a certain point where even > sh(1) becomes annoying. > > Do you have any _particular_ parts of the csh-whynot article that you > would like to discuss, or this is a free for all flame? :) It's a free-for-all -- but not really a flame. I was looking for some general opinions and insights on the matter. As I said, I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert (though, in general, I find I like it more than bash as my command shell). I don't generally like using any of the common shells for "real" programming, anyway. Anything beyond just automating a few commands so I don't get RSI, I tend to go with Perl or Ruby for scripting. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Kent Beck: "I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. I just didn't know it would be called Ruby." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 07:09:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A7016A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-08.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-08.bluehost.com [69.89.17.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED2D513C459 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:09:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 13761 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 07:09:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 07:09:43 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J34g3-0005ai-Bc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:09:43 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBE79g5i020797 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:09:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBE79fHv020796 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:09:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:09:41 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20071214070941.GD20150@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071213192131.Y7985@wonkity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071213192131.Y7985@wonkity.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:09:44 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:42:35PM -0700, Warren Block wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Chad Perrin wrote: > > >I ran across this today: > > > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > > >Title: > > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > > >I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to > >tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). > > I like csh/tcsh as a shell, but don't use it to run scripts. > > /bin/sh is the One True Shell Script Interpreter; heathen bashisms are > just as bad as csh constructs. > > When you can't use a higher-level language (Perubython), use shell > scripts. But stick to plain sh, because if it's useful you'll probably > end up having to convert it to sh anyway. Hmm -- fair answer. I was kind of thinking that on FreeBSD I should maybe do such work in csh as the standard shell, but it occurs to me that I'd probably be pretty hard-pressed to find a FreeBSD system without sh on it. . . . and I *do* use Perubython (or rather, Perubyl) for anything complex enough to use more than one or two conditionals in it. I haven't met a shell (other than one derived from a general purpose programming language) yet that doesn't annoy me beyond that level of complexity for scripting. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] John W. Russell: "People point. Sometimes that's just easier. They also use words. Sometimes that's just easier. For the same reasons that pointing has not made words obsolete, there will always be command lines." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 07:12:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8CB16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:12:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-08.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-08.bluehost.com [69.89.17.208]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 100A113C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:12:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 17491 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 07:12:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 07:12:56 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J34jA-00060L-41 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:12:56 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBE7CsBp020831 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:12:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBE7CsF7020830 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:12:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:12:54 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071214071254.GE20150@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:12:58 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:40:23PM -0500, Michael S wrote: > Good evening all, > > I was wondering if anyone bought M. Lucas' new FreeBSD > book. How would you rate it? > I already have the first edition, is it worth the > money buying the second one? Is the first edition Lucas' "Absolute BSD", or was it also titled "Absolute FreeBSD"? From what I've seen on Amazon, it looks like Absolute FreeBSD is a follow-up to Absolute BSD. For the record . . . title changes for new editions like that annoy me. It can make it pretty difficult at times trying to determine whether or not I'm about to buy a duplicate. The switch from Learning Perl Objects, References, and Modules to Intermediate Perl was another example of that sort of annoyance. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Sen. Dick Durbin, D-IL, to an RIAA executive: "Are you headed to junior high schools to round up the usual suspects?" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 07:22:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E13416A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:22:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADED713C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:22:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBE7MQBE057066; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:22:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8D64AB829; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:22:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:22:26 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Modulok Message-ID: <20071214072226.GA66388@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Modulok , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <64c038660712132056g3dec3142j633c452bda679e9f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <64c038660712132056g3dec3142j633c452bda679e9f@mail.gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory leak with conky, anyone else? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:22:29 -0000 --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:56:25PM -0700, Modulok wrote: > I get the feeling Conky 1.4.8 (the sysutil), or one of the libs it > links against, has a memory leak. I do not have any hard evidence yet > (like a patch to fix it), but the memory consumption slowly climbs to > what appears to be excessive. I did read the manual page about: >=20 > "Conky is generally very good on resources. However, certain objects = in > Conky are harder on resources then others....If you do use them, > please do not complain about memory or CPU usage, unless you think > something's seriously wrong..." >=20 > I am using those features, but I still think something is seriously How does your .conkyrc look? > wrong. The following is after running for 6.5 days: >=20 > top; > PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND > 791 Modulok 1 96 0 280M 278M select 42:37 0.00% conky 41631 rsmith 1 44 0 27532K 5460K select 33:32 0.00% conky =20 > ps -u; > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > Modulok 791 0.0 13.7 286708 284912 v0 S Fri09AM 42:35.18 conky rsmith 41631 0.0 0.5 27532 5460 v0 S 3Dec07 33:31.68 conky -d Fine here (FreeBSD 7.0-BETA3 amd64) Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHYi8yEnfvsMMhpyURAjuBAKCQW8bEqmcEgXDgPJHDz7XhZkDSNgCeOGaE ERVTKcAPk5GY50EvtYK+8ro= =BhWB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HcAYCG3uE/tztfnV-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 07:44:43 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF4116A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: from ro-out-1112.google.com (ro-out-1112.google.com [72.14.202.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8775313C447 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from goran.nilsson@gmail.com) Received: by ro-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k5so680675rog.13 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:44:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=LWvMH7UTCbiXwx78t94BLceamuaYee9kCSo3WOAdGQE=; b=mstfwZkpCBM+VcQyEDJYCMokJ8Cn5gYTHbGRiYaGQHFrFoT7GPBkeUTOQ4f0R0b1x8BT6Bne2Z0FJYnOCiB9OfRhfawWutWtCtE9bMHjSp/YJJFU9mTWszoASAE9Ox9l7f+tz4n8DhZDRTFoS07WPyr1COtXCg9MFcToeKgiQSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mKZ2WvfDFcVt3pOf1jvMjoBvr8LCegGxnT8Dlz4qTmInZD+1Nyc1jgjjllSCBh4fH7dmoFsVQOtC0lt7EyubJom2asPXnF7f1h6sIxbzm7E3xWRxFViWCWav4J2C+ss741MHWW+Ce/qUU4rdcGzOgcHnHSTrjE6ennHa4Y0Rpc0= Received: by 10.35.84.9 with SMTP id m9mr3350033pyl.6.1197618281329; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.35.11.9 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:44:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:44:41 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?=" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:44:43 -0000 This is a FreeBSD 32 bit system. On Dec 14, 2007 5:46 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Is this FreeBSD 64 or FreeBSD 32 bit? > > Ted > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of G=F6ran Nilsso= n > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:39 AM > > To: G=F6ran Nilsson; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD > > 6.2 > > > > > > I have come a bit further. It seems that if I create a 2TB drive > > it all goes > > good. But it doesn't seems to work when doing a large 5TB drive. > > Is there some limitations on fdisk, and the size on partitions? Can't i= t > > exceed 2TB? The machine is a ordinary Core 2 duo 6750 with 4GB of ram. > > > > /Regards Goran > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 5:39 PM, G=F6ran Nilsson wrot= e: > > > > > On the controller there it says that it supports freebsd 6.1. And yes > > > there is documentation on how to install freebsd 6.1 on the raid. > > > But for now i have installed freebsd on a RAID1 system, and i > > have problem > > > getting the card detcted, i run a 5TB RAID 6 on this card. > > > Didn't thought that it could be that much differens between > > version 6.1and > > > 6.2. Gonna try to reinstall. After the reinstall i got the card up an= d > > > running. I see it get detected and it all looks ok. I go in and > > do a fdisk > > > on the drive and label/mount it. I do all this in sysinstall. > > > I can see that the drive is 4648GB so it all looks ok with the RAID 6 > > > Drive. > > > When i later quit sysinstall and check the mounts i see that the driv= e > > > space is 532GB and available space is 500GB. This looks totally > > wrong. Is > > > there any limitations that im not aware of? > > > > > > /Goran > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 1:10 AM, Erik Trulsson > wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, G=F6ran Nilsson wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under > > > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > > > > > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > > > > > For what i can see this card should be supported under FreeBSD 6.= 1 > , > > > > but > > > > > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > > > > > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this card up an= d > > > > running, > > > > > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the > > generic kernel, > > > > > So the most should be in there? > > > > > > > > > > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card > > included with any > > > > FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been > > > > included in > > > > GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have > > been in 6.2also. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is quite possible however that Promise provides their own FreeBS= D > > > > driver > > > > for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which > > > > version(s) > > > > of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or read thei= r > > > > documentation where such information can likely be found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Erik Trulsson > > > > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: > 12/13/2007 > 9:15 AM > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 07:45:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A7A16A46B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08EF13C468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:45:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrisom@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so919704pyb.3 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:45:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ZkwiVfEveXhTQ7fZ+GxS30Cvzr/6fHoUlyn34102fgg=; b=E6JeV9T22M76blpDJdIeS3c61oZaJEPaLVbeTlnoYjSni14r6fQjn0UMJGBagKwOAN5oYvIqgHe4MAWFS+/LVaaSzmv8X9TYHIGf043YkT0NtXwtT3z+IlV84W8GM7vajNugnpCPJjZ2KlQ6tTvdDgpQay17Tqbf/NUINKBswGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=AhlWbj0lZbi4cRG5HXxGCmR6qcEjpkGJUXI64zvLpFmyqbVesWuzxQnYmZXudbvVBI4f/hA7hXGZQJdTcr3vyMKvZKDdwoP/dsrTP/I2+Xidc93B5iOY1dH4ITTwM2uXJROLcr/8DxbMtbDAoytxULpb8wbI40y7IB9f+/f4OG8= Received: by 10.35.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr3327428pyk.35.1197618347405; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:45:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? ( [74.134.230.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f60sm22861736pyh.2007.12.13.23.45.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:45:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20071214071254.GE20150@demeter.hydra> References: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <20071214071254.GE20150@demeter.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Joshua Isom Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:46:17 -0600 To: Chad Perrin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:45:49 -0000 On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:12 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > For the record . . . title changes for new editions like that annoy me. > It can make it pretty difficult at times trying to determine whether or > not I'm about to buy a duplicate. The switch from Learning Perl > Objects, > References, and Modules to Intermediate Perl was another example of > that > sort of annoyance. > Perhaps you should look in /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/pod, which from my experience, has been better than any book I've ever seen for perl. Try running `perldoc perlintro` and `perldoc perllol`. With exceptions such as "old standard" languages, most free documentation that comes with the interpreter/compiler tends to be better than any book. A print out of perl's documentation would be far more valuable than almost any perl book on the market. Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with freebsd-questions would outweigh it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 08:10:52 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423E416A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86F813C45B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:10:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so937216pyb.3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pic0bUiL+5nrveYj8n8hS0Z3sCQopP8RlOruI9xoXUo=; b=QM/Jo73BiO3mWVReT7b6HpSPjeZCaGTa2hN9kfBrq239GGZCQhM1oZ/B5hdfW3cqGT18qQH0+5QBlHMSUTrWeEqWTlGY3HbrjVA2l3JCIKysS0oqu/WLn50WS476MgbdRSpNtmDYKO+EKvyUImg1svffMjGoCq9IwhhvZUF4JYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NQp58ON/GzrF5Hxnos7vfe7Xe2k2R2jn4dCKInEikzq9Yj387LBxdhZ77E7QHSe0X+JxahiNFsCX1tnOQ02C1f8tlN05Ad/9h9KGuOUrpybcAb4FqzmKAagb9etcnEGsCRY0WgKxUgEjus2VZJup9OpwCoFG5xiQ/Lolyni5cdQ= Received: by 10.65.100.14 with SMTP id c14mr6453344qbm.88.1197619850323; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.2? ( [67.85.89.184]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e19sm1908856qbe.2007.12.14.00.10.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:10:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47623A85.7090600@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:10:45 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joshua Isom References: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <20071214071254.GE20150@demeter.hydra> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chad Perrin , FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:10:52 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > > Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be > surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with > freebsd-questions would outweigh it. > By definition they would since the amount of collective knowledge is always greater then the knowledge of a indivual -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHYjqEzIOMjAek4JIRApP3AKCQr5Uit40NBXo2naZz8gYhAJq/EwCgmtHq QtUotzkeEiOSiSIH2tt03/4= =9WKE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 08:12:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D911C16A468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EB013C4E7 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.67) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1J35ez-00048f-Cm>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:12:41 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.67) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1J35ez-0007vf-Bx>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:12:41 +0100 Message-ID: <47623ABD.4080902@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:11:41 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071212) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: ruby-postgresql driver seems broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:12:42 -0000 Hello, after installing a fresh copy of FreeBSD 7.0-BETA4 on a new box I also tried installing rubygem-postgres/ruby-dbd_pg (ports/database). But I get this error: ===> Vulnerability check disabled, database not found => postgres-0.7.1.2006.04.06.gem is not in /usr/ports/databases/rubygem-postgres/distinfo. => Either /usr/ports/databases/rubygem-postgres/distinfo is out of date, or => postgres-0.7.1.2006.04.06.gem is spelled incorrectly. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/databases/rubygem-postgres. Is there anything wrong? Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 08:46:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4900A16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:46:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EB513C4DD for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:46:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE8k76b037753; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:46:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran_Nilsson?= Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:47:11 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD 6.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:46:10 -0000 http://www.freebsd.org/projects/bigdisk/index.html "...The GPT partitioning scheme was introduced with the ia64 architecture as an MBR replacement. It provides 64 bit offsets and allows for an arbitrary number of partitions..." "...For secondary storage, GPT can be used by any architecture regardless of BIOS or boot support..." "...It is still possible to avoid disklabels and MBRs for testing by using newfs directly on the raw disk or md disk. Sysinstall can be tested from a running system by just selecting Expert mode and just performing the MBR and disklabel steps...." So, boot FreeBSD 64, go to expert mode, newfs the disk and see if it blows up Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Göran Nilsson > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:45 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected under FreeBSD > 6.2 > > > This is a FreeBSD 32 bit system. > > On Dec 14, 2007 5:46 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > Is this FreeBSD 64 or FreeBSD 32 bit? > > > > Ted > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Göran Nilsson > > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:39 AM > > > To: Göran Nilsson; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Promise SuperTrak EX12350 don't get detected > under FreeBSD > > > 6.2 > > > > > > > > > I have come a bit further. It seems that if I create a 2TB drive > > > it all goes > > > good. But it doesn't seems to work when doing a large 5TB drive. > > > Is there some limitations on fdisk, and the size on > partitions? Can't it > > > exceed 2TB? The machine is a ordinary Core 2 duo 6750 with 4GB of ram. > > > > > > /Regards Goran > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 5:39 PM, Göran Nilsson > wrote: > > > > > > > On the controller there it says that it supports freebsd > 6.1. And yes > > > > there is documentation on how to install freebsd 6.1 on the raid. > > > > But for now i have installed freebsd on a RAID1 system, and i > > > have problem > > > > getting the card detcted, i run a 5TB RAID 6 on this card. > > > > Didn't thought that it could be that much differens between > > > version 6.1and > > > > 6.2. Gonna try to reinstall. After the reinstall i got the > card up and > > > > running. I see it get detected and it all looks ok. I go in and > > > do a fdisk > > > > on the drive and label/mount it. I do all this in sysinstall. > > > > I can see that the drive is 4648GB so it all looks ok with > the RAID 6 > > > > Drive. > > > > When i later quit sysinstall and check the mounts i see > that the drive > > > > space is 532GB and available space is 500GB. This looks totally > > > wrong. Is > > > > there any limitations that im not aware of? > > > > > > > > /Goran > > > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 1:10 AM, Erik Trulsson > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:35:09PM +0100, Göran Nilsson wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have a problem getting my EX12350 Radicontroller to work under > > > > > FreeBSD 6.2. > > > > > > When i start the computer or rund a dmesg i can see that > > > > > > "mass storage raid ..no driver attached" > > > > > > For what i can see this card should be supported under > FreeBSD 6.1 > > , > > > > > but > > > > > > could it be soo that the support is missing in 6.2? Any tips? > > > > > > Should i try to go for the 6.3 RC1. I really need this > card up and > > > > > running, > > > > > > i run it as a RAID 6. I have tried this with just the > > > generic kernel, > > > > > > So the most should be in there? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ideas, is most appriciating, coz im kinda stuck. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What makes you think this card is supported by FreeBSD 6.1? > > > > > > > > > > As far as I can tell there is no driver for that card > > > included with any > > > > > FreeBSD release. If it was supported the driver would have been > > > > > included in > > > > > GENERIC kernel, and if was supported in 6.1 it would have > > > been in 6.2also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is quite possible however that Promise provides their > own FreeBSD > > > > > driver > > > > > for that card. If that is the case you should ask Promise which > > > > > version(s) > > > > > of FreeBSD the driver supports and how to install it - or > read their > > > > > documentation where such information can likely be found. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Erik Trulsson > > > > > ertr1013@student.uu.se > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: > > 12/13/2007 > > 9:15 AM > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 08:47:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1827316A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C8C13C4E7 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBE8lGDf037764; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Joshua Isom" , "Chad Perrin" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:19 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:47:26 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Isom > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:46 PM > To: Chad Perrin > Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD > > > > On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:12 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > > For the record . . . title changes for new editions like that annoy me. > > It can make it pretty difficult at times trying to determine whether or > > not I'm about to buy a duplicate. The switch from Learning Perl > > Objects, > > References, and Modules to Intermediate Perl was another example of > > that > > sort of annoyance. > > > > Perhaps you should look in /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/pod, which from > my experience, has been better than any book I've ever seen for perl. > Try running `perldoc perlintro` and `perldoc perllol`. With exceptions > such as "old standard" languages, most free documentation that comes > with the interpreter/compiler tends to be better than any book. A > print out of perl's documentation would be far more valuable than > almost any perl book on the market. > > Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be > surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with > freebsd-questions would outweigh it. > It's not the raw knowledge that is the power. It's the presentation. Newbies cannot digest the FreeBSD docs since the docs assume the user isn't a newbie. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 12/13/2007 9:15 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 09:14:31 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352B016A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:14:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthala@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F5A13C4DB for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:14:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cthala@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1724347waf.3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:14:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=adtfkhLKAyMiTqTi81GjdV16tXB03kwHN0D6f9V81XA=; b=OdJ1j+krv1NEAEFIKey6qkrgc7fFz8oP42h77zCHPmD9i35dUHtShd1dJDy9xaKiVc9PrkpbsAITZi20Fcup2NLvQVYWDdD4yyhtFF5hTTycrA9wQa5PSxVuEi2ttWEW/JJg68IU1NGpC2EQKVTz+TxGx0rJx/3F1K+H/U/47Vw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Dtxb8GOKxnW0NyvzDn7Yjk3l0h5rr+1O/yFSREFQidbQRmG4wpazM5MSJ9BmOUHIF859FCvMsjI8FGy81ZS5RudGoYj3ZU5+wtZWbCXjr0HdWR8nJtnxCDZWGu9Ix2TvRdmTEmwTuoRoEZKj/lCdXsd7h3ZIN3XNIL1MndafmVw= Received: by 10.115.79.1 with SMTP id g1mr258952wal.2.1197622105227; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.240.14 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <77647f500712140048o3d1bfd38p5877a24606d183e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:48:25 -0500 From: "C Thala" To: freebsd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Netgear WG111T Wireless USB support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:14:31 -0000 Does FreeBSD support the Netgear WG111T Wireless USB device? I purchased it based on the fact that it uses an Atheros chipset, which according to the 6.2R hardware notes: "The ath(4) driver supports all Atheros Cardbus or PCI cards", I guess that excludes USB? Thomas From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 10:57:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0E116A481 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621CE13C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:57:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6D1E0709; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:57:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:57:52 +0100 From: cpghost To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Message-ID: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:57:56 -0000 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:19 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Isom > > Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be > > surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with > > freebsd-questions would outweigh it. > > It's not the raw knowledge that is the power. It's the presentation. > Newbies cannot digest the FreeBSD docs since the docs assume the > user isn't a newbie. Right! One can't emphasize this enough. IMHO, computer books should be time savers, i.e. a guide highlighting the most important aspects of some topic in a unique way. Authors of such books shouldn't be afraid to tell readers to go RTFM after presenting an overview... unless it's a very narrowly focused book. A good tutorial beats a 350 pages book anytime; and a 350 pages book with the right mix of selected topics beats an 800+ pages "reference-style" all-rounder book as well, most of the time. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 11:57:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C955A16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452EA13C467 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:57:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEBv7ES001199; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:57:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id lBEBv7TK001196; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:57:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:57:06 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Michael S In-Reply-To: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071214125656.D1181@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:57:13 -0000 isn't /usr/share/doc good? On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Michael S wrote: > Good evening all, > > I was wondering if anyone bought M. Lucas' new FreeBSD > book. How would you rate it? > I already have the first edition, is it worth the > money buying the second one? > > Thanks in advance, > Michael > > Michael Sherman > http://msherman77.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 12:12:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D448C16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derrick@uniquestrength.net) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C12C13C468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derrick@uniquestrength.net) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qb6X1Y00H0SCNGk5903e00; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:01:41 +0000 Received: from mail.uniquestrength.net ([68.55.141.86]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qc1g1Y00c1s2foL3V00000; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:01:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=NpW2XXewAAAA:8 a=h4fFnz5QSF23KnijvBkA:9 a=1epmoBSrcrzPBTWyrzX5PXlKgkUA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=eexVPJaYTLkA:10 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.uniquestrength.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC195C3A; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:01:41 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uniquestrength.net Received: from mail.uniquestrength.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.uniquestrength.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uOpz4e-x4o4M; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:01:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from focus.uniquestrength.net (unknown [10.10.1.1]) by mail.uniquestrength.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6A2875C3F; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:01:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <47627090.5000304@uniquestrength.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:01:20 -0500 From: "Sam I Am" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070802) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:12:42 -0000 cpghost wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:19 -0800 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Isom >>> Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be >>> surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with >>> freebsd-questions would outweigh it. >>> >> It's not the raw knowledge that is the power. It's the presentation. >> Newbies cannot digest the FreeBSD docs since the docs assume the >> user isn't a newbie. >> > > Right! One can't emphasize this enough. > > IMHO, computer books should be time savers, i.e. a guide highlighting > the most important aspects of some topic in a unique way. Authors of > such books shouldn't be afraid to tell readers to go RTFM after > presenting an overview... unless it's a very narrowly focused book. > > A good tutorial beats a 350 pages book anytime; and a 350 pages > book with the right mix of selected topics beats an 800+ pages > "reference-style" all-rounder book as well, most of the time. > > -cpghost. > The book announcement says that the book is completely revised. (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271510/#top) I am interested if this book covers mostly FreeBSD 6 or 7. I also would like to see the table of contents online. Maybe, I will just have to go to Borders or some place like that. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 12:33:08 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429AA16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3EE413C468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 34632 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2007 12:33:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YpHR01hGHyTx04yC4pYP5scmdGKkxoRUklbdaO/TyRMIwnP6Xugc+Yahm4Jn8G0CoV+76B8bh+7AyxjU4TAX/FjSIma4Qe95x4OJ7q35tDO3vGP3v06WbJDDWS2e0jpQIlRI+JQzxOsXgUb24k1RqXaPDF1SRSZ2bbK+YN3agGM=; X-YMail-OSG: B2paD9oVM1nPGeAgFNeKUsvJDmzsS7XORmC0_l1COJz7flCr1nw5SI1ADgaEAeE9_2U2XyMQo6VW_4fDpUn2f_E61ga1vUwljdNZmJxTuro1hrFcDzR5J.s_TJnX_3_CnDtBTWHGbMkwY68- Received: from [99.235.10.146] by web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:33:05 EST Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:33:05 -0500 (EST) From: Michael S To: Sam I Am , cpghost In-Reply-To: <47627090.5000304@uniquestrength.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <532449.32091.qm@web88309.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:33:08 -0000 Here's the toc: http://www.tinker.tv/download/afreebsd2_toc.pdf --- Sam I Am wrote: > cpghost wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:19 -0800 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > > > >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Joshua Isom > >>> Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD > book, I wouldn't be > >>> surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation > combined with > >>> freebsd-questions would outweigh it. > >>> > >> It's not the raw knowledge that is the power. > It's the presentation. > >> Newbies cannot digest the FreeBSD docs since the > docs assume the > >> user isn't a newbie. > >> > > > > Right! One can't emphasize this enough. > > > > IMHO, computer books should be time savers, i.e. a > guide highlighting > > the most important aspects of some topic in a > unique way. Authors of > > such books shouldn't be afraid to tell readers to > go RTFM after > > presenting an overview... unless it's a very > narrowly focused book. > > > > A good tutorial beats a 350 pages book anytime; > and a 350 pages > > book with the right mix of selected topics beats > an 800+ pages > > "reference-style" all-rounder book as well, most > of the time. > > > > -cpghost. > > > > The book announcement says that the book is > completely revised. > > (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271510/#top) > > I am interested if this book covers mostly FreeBSD 6 > or 7. I also would > like to see the table of contents online. > Maybe, I will just have to go to Borders or some > place like that. > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Michael Sherman http://msherman77.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 13:16:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55A916A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from mail.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB31C13C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from asahi-net.jp (b150056.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [202.213.150.56]) by mail.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40AEA51309; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:16:01 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:16:01 +0900 From: Watanabe Kazuhiro To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <4761932D.7030106@monkeybrains.net> References: <4761932D.7030106@monkeybrains.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.1 (AOI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20071214131601.40AEA51309@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Cc: Rudy Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:16:03 -0000 At Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:16:45 -0800, Rudy wrote: > Watanabe Kazuhiro wrote: > > Hi. > > > > At Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0800, > > Rudy wrote: > >>> After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better > >>> phrase my question: > >>> how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? > > ... > > > Audacity will be able to specify a different dsp device for the > > recording and playback device via the "Audacity Preferences" panel > > ("Edit" -> "Preferences" -> "Audio I/O"); e.g. /dev/dsp0 for playback, > > and /dev/dsp1 for recording. > > > > Have you tried such configulation? > > --- > > Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) > > No luck. I only see '/dev/dsp'. It seems that dsp likes to automatically do stuff, but is not > smart enough to always do the right thing. OK. My understanding is: * There is /dev/dsp0 which corresponds to pcm0 (snd_hda). * /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp0 are the same. e.g.: $ ls -l /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 83 Dec 14 20:55 /dev/dsp crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 83 Dec 14 20:55 /dev/dsp0 $ * There is no /dev/dsp1. But there is /dev/dsp1.1 which corresponds to pcm1 (snd_uaudio). If these are correct, will you try to make a symlink /dev/dsp1 which points to /dev/dsp1.1 via devfs.conf(5)? i.e. Add the following line to /etc/devfs.conf and then reboot the system: link dsp1.1 dsp1 --- Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 13:43:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F80F16A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: from web88307.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web88307.mail.re4.yahoo.com [216.39.53.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5999813C46B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from msherman77@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52672 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Dec 2007 13:43:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=X/SjCSvvVT5kKKOXOJHmvn1ag8zQ2XjmCj3M6k2uppleIyTAjNYO7lG2RlNPWotZw5MIUkCQLCZTIpOB9ncrwrG6zlXsLLZIuVH964v5g1NHLOjZH31Y37zJNz8Nhs8YtbZO+221nZysHUlQLXUx56j9IfBHJBsOU3GB6t9Ku90=; X-YMail-OSG: NQqNIQEVM1mYQp3OK.OMSZyyMXh.iuJXSLlaXESkyrX21lfl3NL4JS6uTeF72xHIQy34pAeZu3ge2aCZcw94O3OZFJoZaJFKrWGLOUG2B.ql2RAx5Fs- Received: from [99.235.10.146] by web88307.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:43:32 EST Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:43:32 -0500 (EST) From: Michael S To: Ted Mittelstaedt , FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <492357.52298.qm@web88307.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:43:33 -0000 The authors never fail to mention that their book is useful to new and experienced users alike. :) It does have some new topics in there. http://www.tinker.tv/download/afreebsd2_toc.pdf But I think I will hold off the purchase, at least for some time. Thanks for your reply. Michael --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On > Behalf Of Michael S > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:40 PM > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Subject: Absolute FreeBSD > > > > > > Good evening all, > > > > I was wondering if anyone bought M. Lucas' new > FreeBSD > > book. How would you rate it? > > I already have the first edition, is it worth the > > money buying the second one? > > If you bought and grokked the first book and have > been using > FreeBSD ever since, do you really need a book of any > kind at > this point? Don't you have enough experience under > your > belt to get by without a book? > > The operating system books - be it FreeBSD, Linux or > Windows, > serve an important function of helping people go > from zero to > 60 in getting up and going with their operating > system of > choice. But eventually you are going to outgrow > them. There > are always lots more people at 0 so the authors of > these > books will never starve, but you need to eventually > strike > out on your own. > > Ted Mittelstaedt > Author: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > published 2000, Addison-Wesley > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - > Release Date: 12/13/2007 > 9:15 AM > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Michael Sherman http://msherman77.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:19:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EFF16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:19:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jefferson.pereira@tecsidel.com.br) Received: from mail.tecsidel.com.br (mail.tecsidel.com.br [200.186.151.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F118313C448 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jefferson.pereira@tecsidel.com.br) Received: (qmail 10450 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Dec 2007 11:53:13 -0200 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by mail (envelope-from , uid 1004) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88/5110. spamassassin: 3.0.3. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.015524 secs); 14 Dec 2007 13:53:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail.tecsidel.com.br) (127.0.0.1) by mail.tecsidel.com.br with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 11:53:13 -0200 Received: from 200.205.95.10 (proxying for unknown) (SquirrelMail authenticated user jefferson.pereira@tecsidel.com.br) by webmail.tecsidel.com.br with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:53:13 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:53:13 -0200 (BRST) From: "Jefferson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Importance: High Subject: Networking card not install on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:19:56 -0000 Hi all, I have a question and a problem, i installed freebsd v. 6.1 on my desktop and my networking card doesn't work with freebsd... I have a Onboard Intel Nineveh 82566DM (10/100/1000 Mbit). Somebody please could help me, how can i install this network card and make work well... Tks a lot, Jefferson. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:27:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6252D16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from lsmtp.okstate.edu (lsmtp.okstate.edu [139.78.101.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154A813C45D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (stwexhub02.it.okstate.edu) by lsmtp.okstate.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00CB5B48@lsmtp.okstate.edu>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 8:27:22 -0600 Received: from EXS1.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.192) by stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.251) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.751.0; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:21 -0600 Received: from smtp.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.2]) by EXS1.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:21 -0600 Received: from [139.78.110.83] ([139.78.110.83]) by smtp.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:21 -0600 Resent-From: Jason Joines Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:22 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <476292CA.3070505@okstate.edu> Resent-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Received: from exfe02.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.102.185]) by EXE2.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:39:12 -0600 Received: from mailhost01.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.4]) by exfe02.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:39:12 -0600 Received: from merlin.alerce.com (merlin.alerce.com [64.62.142.94]) by mailhost02.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBE1dBp2000832 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:39:12 -0600 Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B56733C64 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "satchel.alerce.com", Issuer "alerce.com" (verified OK)) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2183E33C5D for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 311261B28CB; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:39:10 -0800 (PST) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18273.57022.36466.753266@almost.alerce.com> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:39:10 -0800 To: Jason Joines In-Reply-To: References: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2007-12-13_10:2007-12-13, 2007-12-14, 2007-12-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=quarantine_notspam policy=quarantine score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0708230000 definitions=main-0712130194 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2007 01:39:12.0563 (UTC) FILETIME=[21084830:01C83DF2] Cc: Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:23 -0000 Jason Joines writes: > George Hartzell wrote: > > Jason Joines writes: > > > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. > > > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel > > > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. > > > The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since > > > July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and > > > amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite > > > a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. > > > > > > At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will > > > FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if > > > another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? > > > > I can't give you a direct answer, but I was running 6-STABLE on an > > 8-way mac pro up until a couple of weeks ago (I had to give it back to > > it's owners and I'm waiting until after the next wwdc to buy my > > own...). > > > > I used bootcamp to partition a spare disk, then just booted from a > > freebsd cd and installed onto that partition. I ended up using refit > > as a boot doohickey (initially from an refit cd, eventually taking a > > chance on installing it onto the disk itself). > > > > There wasn't anything too surprising. > > > > g. > > > > > > I didn't even know there was such a thing as an 8-way mac pro. > Unfortunately that probably doesn't mean much as far as the xserve boxes > go, at least not the intel xserve boxes. I'm running Linux on an intel > imac and an intel powerbook pro, and others are on the intel powerbook > and it runs on all the PowerPC stuff. However, all the intel boxes just > mentioned have BIOS emulation. The intel xserve boxes do not, boot camp > won't run on them and isn't supported on them. Well, I'm pretty fuzzy about what's hidden inside the various intel macs, but if will let you partition a disk from an os x install cd, will boot a freebsd boot disk from the cd (so you can do the install), and will boot from an refit cd (or via refit installed into the efi [sic?] boot area) then it'll go. FreeBSD doesn't need much from the bios, does it? If you send me an intel xserve, I'll take a shot at it.... :) g. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:27:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B749E16A421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from lsmtp.okstate.edu (lsmtp.okstate.edu [139.78.101.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E5113C4CC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (stwexhub02.it.okstate.edu) by lsmtp.okstate.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00CB5B60@lsmtp.okstate.edu>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 8:27:55 -0600 Received: from EXS1.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.192) by stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.251) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.751.0; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:55 -0600 Received: from smtp.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.2]) by EXS1.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:55 -0600 Received: from [139.78.110.83] ([139.78.110.83]) by smtp.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:55 -0600 Resent-From: Jason Joines Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:27:56 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <476292EC.9060900@okstate.edu> Resent-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Received: from exfe03.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.102.186]) by EXE2.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:30:10 -0600 Received: from mailhost01.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.5]) by exfe03.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:30:09 -0600 Received: from mail1.heig-vd.ch (mail1.heig-vd.ch [193.134.216.148]) by mailhost03.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEATYjo027858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:30:04 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.heig-vd.ch (8.13.7/8.13.1/MailGateway 2.01) with ESMTP id lBEAOEWQ003582; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:24:14 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new from YCOM SA at heig-vd.ch Received: from mail1.heig-vd.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail1.heig-vd.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id f4UOQcDAqgk5; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:24:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from EINT11.einet.ad.eivd.ch ([10.192.41.28]) by mail1.heig-vd.ch (8.13.7/8.13.1/MailGateway 2.01) with ESMTP id lBEAO3ub003568; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:24:05 +0100 Received: from [10.192.51.160] ([10.192.51.160]) by EINT11.einet.ad.eivd.ch with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:24:02 +0100 Message-ID: <476259C2.4020502@evotex.ch> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:24:02 +0100 From: Gabriel Rossetti User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070804) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hartzell@alerce.com References: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> In-Reply-To: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2007 10:24:02.0956 (UTC) FILETIME=[72C4ECC0:01C83E3B] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2007-12-14_03:2007-12-14, 2007-12-14, 2007-12-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=quarantine_notspam policy=quarantine score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0708230000 definitions=main-0712140017 Cc: Jason Joines Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:56 -0000 George Hartzell wrote: > Jason Joines writes: > > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. > > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel > > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. > AMD64....on an Intel X-Serve box? I think you got it wrong there....... Anyways, EFI support for Xeon CPUs should work without a problem, even for linux. I'm not sure about EFI support, I think it's fine in CURRENT, from what I've read on the net. Good luck, Gabriel > > The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since > > July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and > > amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite > > a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. > > > > At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will > > FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if > > another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? > > I can't give you a direct answer, but I was running 6-STABLE on an > 8-way mac pro up until a couple of weeks ago (I had to give it back to > it's owners and I'm waiting until after the next wwdc to buy my > own...). > > I used bootcamp to partition a spare disk, then just booted from a > freebsd cd and installed onto that partition. I ended up using refit > as a boot doohickey (initially from an refit cd, eventually taking a > chance on installing it onto the disk itself). > > There wasn't anything too surprising. > > g. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:29:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6297716A473 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:29:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lisa@jellico.com) Received: from mail.jellico.com (mail.jellico.com [207.191.185.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1462413C4CC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:29:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lisa@jellico.com) Received: from lisac (lisa.jellico.com [207.191.185.213]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.jellico.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBEETEvq040773 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:29:14 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lisa@jellico.com) Message-ID: <001701c83e5b$9c2ed4c0$d5b9bfcf@lisac> From: "Lisa Casey" To: References: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:14:15 -0500 Organization: Netlink 2000, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 207.191.185.6 Subject: Re: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:29:09 -0000 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Satria Bramana > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 9:44 PM > Subject: Webmail > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give suggestion > what package to use? I will only use it for study purpose, so I need one > that > easy to configure and help me understand the big picture about > mailserver.. > Thank you very much.. I've used Null Web Mail (http://nullwebmail.sourceforge.net/webmail/) for several years. It's a very basic webmail program written in C, and it's pretty simple to configure and install. It doesn't have all of the features that some more sophisticated web mail programs have, but what I like most about it is it just basically works well. We encourage our users to POP their mail anyway so we don't need the "bells & whistles" of some of the more full featured web mail programs. Lisa Casey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:38:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B456B16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:38:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) Received: from mailrelay005.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay005.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5638813C474 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alainfabry@belgacom.net) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes Received: from 103.208-244-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO belgacom.net) ([81.244.208.103]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2007 15:38:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:34:51 +0100 From: "Alain G. Fabry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214143451.GA27353@ducati-748.3rdrock.kicks-ass.net> References: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Subject: Re: Networking card not install on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:38:04 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:53:13AM -0200, Jefferson wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question and a problem, i installed freebsd v. 6.1 on my desktop > and my networking card doesn't work with freebsd... I have a Onboard Intel > Nineveh 82566DM (10/100/1000 Mbit). > > Somebody please could help me, how can i install this network card and > make work well... > > Tks a lot, Not sure the card is supported in v6.1, but maybe this will make you wiser http://downloadmirror.intel.com/13742/ENG/README.txt Alain > > Jefferson. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:39:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C5F16A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B213C46B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:64200 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J3Bh7-0002yU-85 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:39:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 37198 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 15:39:13 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2007 15:39:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 80871 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Dec 2007 15:39:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:39:13 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Jefferson Message-ID: <20071214143913.GA80809@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Jefferson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J3Bh7-0002yU-85. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1J3Bh7-0002yU-85 cecb84ba773edeb1cc4d085d3d82da32 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking card not install on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:39:21 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:53:13AM -0200, Jefferson wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question and a problem, i installed freebsd v. 6.1 on my desktop > and my networking card doesn't work with freebsd... I have a Onboard Intel > Nineveh 82566DM (10/100/1000 Mbit). > > Somebody please could help me, how can i install this network card and > make work well... The version of the em(4) driver which was included with FreeBSD 6.1 is too old to support that networking card. You can either upgrade to FreeBSD 6.2 (or newer) or try to download a newer version of just the driver from www.intel.com -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:47:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4C516A420 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RF=f0ba0234@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from turtle-out.mxes.net (turtle-out.mxes.net [216.86.168.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF26E13C467 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RF=f0ba0234@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by turtle-in.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B54F6163F8C for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:26:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E35D0501 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:26:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:26:28 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214142628.4ef75102@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071214070941.GD20150@demeter.hydra> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071213192131.Y7985@wonkity.com> <20071214070941.GD20150@demeter.hydra> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:47:03 -0000 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:09:41 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > Hmm -- fair answer. I was kind of thinking that on FreeBSD I should > maybe do such work in csh as the standard shell, but it occurs to me > that I'd probably be pretty hard-pressed to find a FreeBSD system > without sh on it. csh isn't the standard shell, it's just the default login shell for root. All of the installed shell scripts are for sh, and the sysinstall default for ordinary users is sh. I think it's just the case that sysinstall doesn't have normal user setup page for the root account, so it's sets a sensible default shell for interactive use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:51:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9CE16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RF=f0ba0234@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0376913C45B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:51:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RF=f0ba0234@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F8ED0A30 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:51:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:51:16 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214145116.17f39ff0@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <47621CE8.2000807@highperformance.net> References: <4761E8AD.4080000@brianwhalen.net> <20071213194324.E7985@wonkity.com> <4761F7C5.1060605@brianwhalen.net> <20071213214449.P8646@wonkity.com> <20071213220036.K8646@wonkity.com> <47621CE8.2000807@highperformance.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mailing lists X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:51:21 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:04:24 -0800 "Jason C. Wells" wrote: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: > > > The fact that each mailing list exists as list@freebsd.org and > > freebsd-list@freebsd.org makes me need to make 2 filters for each > > list I subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to > > continue, that the server shows one format for all the messages > > that go out? > > Filter on the Sender header. That is controlled by the list manager > and doesn't have duplicate names. For -questions, the Sender is > owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org. The list-id header exists to identify mailing lists unambiguously. There's no need to use workarounds. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:54:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62D116A469 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from lsmtp.okstate.edu (lsmtp.okstate.edu [139.78.101.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B5B13C448 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:54:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joines@okstate.edu) Received: from stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (stwexhub02.it.okstate.edu) by lsmtp.okstate.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00CB5FF1@lsmtp.okstate.edu>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 8:54:33 -0600 Received: from EXS1.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.192) by stwexhub02.ad.okstate.edu (139.78.102.251) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.0.751.0; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:54:32 -0600 Received: from smtp.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.2]) by EXS1.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:54:31 -0600 Received: from [139.78.110.83] ([139.78.110.83]) by smtp.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:54:32 -0600 Resent-From: Jason Joines Resent-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:54:33 -0600 Resent-Message-ID: <47629929.5030404@okstate.edu> Resent-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070728 Thunderbird/2.0.0.6 Received: from exfe02.ad.okstate.edu ([139.78.102.185]) by EXE2.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:43:10 -0600 Received: from mailhost01.okstate.edu ([139.78.133.4]) by exfe02.ad.okstate.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:43:10 -0600 Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mailhost02.okstate.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEEh3on008001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:43:04 -0600 Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:63026 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J3Bkg-0006kf-3X for joines@okstate.edu; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:42:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 37272 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 15:42:55 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 14 Dec 2007 15:42:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 80915 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Dec 2007 15:42:55 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:42:55 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Gabriel Rossetti Message-ID: <20071214144255.GA80899@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> <476259C2.4020502@evotex.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <476259C2.4020502@evotex.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1J3Bkg-0006kf-3X. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1J3Bkg-0006kf-3X b8d3dccd59c80bf5b71f0a2af83c5c7c X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5502:2.3.11, 1.2.37, 4.0.164 definitions=2007-12-14_04:2007-12-14, 2007-12-14, 2007-12-14 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=quarantine_notspam policy=quarantine score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0708230000 definitions=main-0712140049 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2007 14:43:10.0426 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5C893A0:01C83E5F] Cc: Jason Joines , hartzell@alerce.com Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:54:34 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:24:02AM +0100, Gabriel Rossetti wrote: > George Hartzell wrote: > > Jason Joines writes: > > > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. > > > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel > > > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. > > > AMD64....on an Intel X-Serve box? I think you got it wrong there....... I doubt he got it wrong. Almost all of Intel's recent CPUs implement the AMD64 (aka x86-64) architecture (although Intel of course does not call it AMD64. They used to call it EMT64, but I think they call it something else now.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 14:57:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C13616A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:57:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@sequestered.net) Received: from alcatraz.sequestered.net (alcatraz.sequestered.net [64.183.71.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE7D13C44B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:57:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@sequestered.net) Received: from singularity.sequestered.net (unknown [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: singularity@sequestered.net) by alcatraz.sequestered.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167A367A67; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:21:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <47629177.4040104@sequestered.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:21:43 -0800 From: Jay Chandler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jefferson References: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> In-Reply-To: <21951.200.205.95.10.1197640393.squirrel@webmail.tecsidel.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-Watermark: 1198246904.67014@dYnJatI6o6ufLnCC8qd8Kw X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Sequestered.net support for more information X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=0, required 6, autolearn=not spam) X-SEQUESTERED-NET-MailScanner-From: lists@sequestered.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Networking card not install on freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:57:37 -0000 Jefferson wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question and a problem, i installed freebsd v. 6.1 on my desktop > and my networking card doesn't work with freebsd... I have a Onboard Intel > Nineveh 82566DM (10/100/1000 Mbit). > > Somebody please could help me, how can i install this network card and > make work well... > > Tks a lot, > > Jefferson. > Are you certain it's enabled in the BIOS? Intel tends to work rather well with FreeBSD... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:07:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B8916A421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1207513C468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:07:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3C12-0000uJ-H6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:59:52 +0000 Received: from feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu ([139.78.110.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:59:52 +0000 Received: from joines by feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:59:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason Joines Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:49:10 -0600 Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> <476259C2.4020502@evotex.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) In-Reply-To: <476259C2.4020502@evotex.ch> Sender: news Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:07:14 -0000 Gabriel Rossetti wrote: > George Hartzell wrote: >> Jason Joines writes: >> > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. >> > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel >> > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. >> > AMD64....on an Intel X-Serve box? I think you got it wrong there....... > Anyways, EFI support for Xeon CPUs should work without a problem, even > for linux. > I'm not sure about EFI support, I think it's fine in CURRENT, from what > I've read on the net. > > Good luck, > Gabriel >> > The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since >> > July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and >> > amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite >> > a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. >> > >> > At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will >> > FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if >> > another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? >> >> I can't give you a direct answer, but I was running 6-STABLE on an >> 8-way mac pro up until a couple of weeks ago (I had to give it back to >> it's owners and I'm waiting until after the next wwdc to buy my >> own...). >> >> I used bootcamp to partition a spare disk, then just booted from a >> freebsd cd and installed onto that partition. I ended up using refit >> as a boot doohickey (initially from an refit cd, eventually taking a >> chance on installing it onto the disk itself). >> >> There wasn't anything too surprising. >> >> g. Nope, it is the AMD64 architecture on apple intel xserve. Intel cloned it and called it Intel 64 and EM64T among other names. More vendor neutral names are x86-64 and x64. At any rate, many Linux distributions, and FreeBSD, release a version they call amd64 that runs on CPUs with this instruction set regardless of whether AMD or Intel created it. EFI support may be fine for amd64 xeon's but the elilo boot loader wouldn't work with amd64 until the latest beta. Even though the boot loader became capable in that beta, the Linux kernel wouldn't work with elilo on amd64 until 2.6.24-rc4. It may be fine with x86 xeons and it has always worked with ia64, just not amd64. I just don't know enough about FreeBSD to know if it or the bootloader(s) it uses have any of the same issues Linux does or not. Hopefully I'll get to go onsite soon and give it a try. Jason =========== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:14:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA9116A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02EB13C455 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3C63-0002mt-4t for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:05:03 +0000 Received: from feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu ([139.78.110.83]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:05:03 +0000 Received: from joines by feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:05:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jason Joines Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:53:58 -0600 Lines: 68 Message-ID: References: <18272.27362.622233.540876@almost.alerce.com> <18273.57022.36466.753266@almost.alerce.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: feistyd.lsw.okstate.edu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) In-Reply-To: <18273.57022.36466.753266@almost.alerce.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: will freebsd run on apple intel xserve X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:14:22 -0000 George Hartzell wrote: > Jason Joines writes: > > George Hartzell wrote: > > > Jason Joines writes: > > > > I'm a Linux guy who has inherited some apple xserve boxes. > > > > Surprisingly I've discovered that I really hate os x. For the intel > > > > xserve boxes, Linux isn't an option. The CPUs are amd64 architecture. > > > > The EFI capable Linux bootloader, has had beta support for amd64 since > > > > July. However, the Linux kernel just got support to boot via EFI and > > > > amd64 in a release candidate patch this month. It'll probably be quite > > > > a while before a distribution has an installer with what I need. > > > > > > > > At any rate, I've always wanted to try one of the BSDs. Will > > > > FreeBSD install on an apple intel xserve? If not does anyone know if > > > > another BSD or some other open source NIX will work? > > > > > > I can't give you a direct answer, but I was running 6-STABLE on an > > > 8-way mac pro up until a couple of weeks ago (I had to give it back to > > > it's owners and I'm waiting until after the next wwdc to buy my > > > own...). > > > > > > I used bootcamp to partition a spare disk, then just booted from a > > > freebsd cd and installed onto that partition. I ended up using refit > > > as a boot doohickey (initially from an refit cd, eventually taking a > > > chance on installing it onto the disk itself). > > > > > > There wasn't anything too surprising. > > > > > > g. > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't even know there was such a thing as an 8-way mac pro. > > Unfortunately that probably doesn't mean much as far as the xserve boxes > > go, at least not the intel xserve boxes. I'm running Linux on an intel > > imac and an intel powerbook pro, and others are on the intel powerbook > > and it runs on all the PowerPC stuff. However, all the intel boxes just > > mentioned have BIOS emulation. The intel xserve boxes do not, boot camp > > won't run on them and isn't supported on them. > > Well, I'm pretty fuzzy about what's hidden inside the various intel > macs, but if will let you partition a disk from an os x install cd, > will boot a freebsd boot disk from the cd (so you can do the install), > and will boot from an refit cd (or via refit installed into the efi > [sic?] boot area) then it'll go. FreeBSD doesn't need much from the > bios, does it? > > If you send me an intel xserve, I'll take a shot at it.... :) > > g. It will partition a disk from an os x cd but I haven't got it to boot anything but os x from refit. I haven't got to try the FreeBSD boot disk yet, hopefully I'll get to go on site and do that soon. I don't know what FreeBSD nees from the bios. Linux doesn't normally need much. This issue is particular to EFI, elilo and the amd64 architecture. It works just fine with EFI, elilo, and ia64 and as far as I know works just fine with EFI and x86. Sure wish I could give 'em to ya. Jason =========== From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:22:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10AC616A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from lon-mail-1.gradwell.net (lon-mail-1.gradwell.net [193.111.201.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FF613C4E1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 85-211-77-202.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk ([85.211.77.202] helo=[192.168.1.6] country=GB ident=bds$pop3&waywood&co^uk) by lon-mail-1.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.271) id 47629fb4.105bc.9fa; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:22:28 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <47629FA9.9020609@waywood.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:22:17 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:22:45 -0000 cpghost wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:19 -0800 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > >>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Joshua Isom >>> Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be >>> surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with >>> freebsd-questions would outweigh it. >> It's not the raw knowledge that is the power. It's the presentation. >> Newbies cannot digest the FreeBSD docs since the docs assume the >> user isn't a newbie. > > Right! One can't emphasize this enough. > > IMHO, computer books should be time savers, i.e. a guide highlighting > the most important aspects of some topic in a unique way. Authors of > such books shouldn't be afraid to tell readers to go RTFM after > presenting an overview... unless it's a very narrowly focused book. > > A good tutorial beats a 350 pages book anytime; and a 350 pages > book with the right mix of selected topics beats an 800+ pages > "reference-style" all-rounder book as well, most of the time. > > -cpghost. > I wasn't going to reply to this thread because I cannot answer the specific question - i.e. is this book worth it for someone who has read the first one - because I haven't read the first one. However, since no-one who has read the new one seems to have given an opinion of the book, I can at least do that. I have just finished it and I would say it does exactly what what Ted and cpghost suggests it should - there are plenty of sections where the author introduces what can be done with a particular tool or part of the OS, and suggests to the reader to investigate further options in the approriate manuals. It also quite openly acknowledges that there is plenty that is not covered at all. As someone with very limited experience (I'm not sure if I still classify as a *complete* newbie) I found the book an excellent and even entertaining read, which serves it purpose extremely well: to give an overview and introduction, but with enough detail in relevant places to be able to get real, useful stuff done. The detail is important because it provides enough 'immersion' in actual configurations, commands, protocols etc to begin to see patterns emerging, and to start to develop an instinct for how something you haven't seen yet is likely to hang together. However the overview aspect is also vital - I have always found it much easier to unearth detailed how-tos than to know which direction to go in in the first place! I would say he had the balance just about right. It is aimed pretty squarely at budding sysadmins, not desktop users (X is hardly even mentioned), but managed to be far from stodgy. As for the version covered, there are a few bits that explicitly mention version 7, but everything else seemed totally relevant to me on 6.2. Barnaby Scott From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:27:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171BD16A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:27:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RF=f0ba0234@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-04.mxes.net (mxout-04.mxes.net [216.86.168.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF5113C455 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:27:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+RF=f0ba0234@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com. (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47635D05BC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:27:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:27:42 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214152742.745c7b44@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: References: <47618AF4.5000208@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:27:48 -0000 On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:06:25 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > Consider also that the majority of webinterfaces to mailservers > are written using the uw-c-client imap libraries. So you go ahead > and install dovecot - then watch when you install a webinterface > the port manager sucking in the uw imap stuff anyway. Might as > well run the uw imap server if your going to run the uw libraries. None of the major webmail clients appear to depend on cclient $ find /usr/ports/ -name Makefile | xargs grep "mail/cclient" /usr/ports/mail/cclient/Makefile:# $FreeBSD: ports/mail/cclient/Makefile,v 1.41 2007/10/01 04:03:01 marcus Exp $ /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw/Makefile:# This port must have the same SSL settings as mail/cclient, which it depends on /usr/ports/mail/imap-uw/Makefile:LIB_DEPENDS= c-client4.9:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient /usr/ports/mail/mailsync/Makefile:LIB_DEPENDS= c-client4.9:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient /usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-CClient/Makefile:LIB_DEPENDS= c-client4.9:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient /usr/ports/mail/postilion/Makefile:LIB_DEPENDS= c-client4:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient /usr/ports/mail/prayer/Makefile:BUILD_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/lib/libc-client4.a:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient /usr/ports/mail/tkrat2/Makefile: c-client4.9:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient /usr/ports/www/ismail/Makefile:LIB_DEPENDS+= c-client4.9:${PORTSDIR}/mail/cclient From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:38:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F31D16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:38:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [72.9.101.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC8F13C448 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBEFbs3M087420 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:37:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm@prime.gushi.org) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=primegushiorg; d=prime.gushi.org; c=nofws; q=dns; h=received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=D559ObP1nj3dnvk5mB14qQfXqwBIKLcXLu+FF/D7Fm5Om0MGrGCwhedRobYAWhIaJ 538iW4Bo/i/DGdu3WrkHQ== Received: (from danm@localhost) by prime.gushi.org (8.14.1/8.13.8/Submit) id lBEFbsCZ087417; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:37:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from danm) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:37:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214103639.B86676@prime.gushi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (prime.gushi.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:37:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: Subject: Passwd and pam? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:38:00 -0000 Hello all, In looking through some pam stuff I find that there's a pam_passwdqc module to do password quality control. However, in reading the passwd man page, NO mention is made of either pam, or /etc/pam.d/passwd Is "passwd" a legacy tool which doesn't support this pam feature? -Dan -- "Man, this is such a trip" -Dan Mahoney, October 25, 1997 --------Dan Mahoney-------- Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC ICQ: 13735144 AIM: LarpGM Site: http://www.gushi.org --------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:44:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C08116A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B4813C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4db3eda0.pool.einsundeins.de [77.179.237.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9E1A44529 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:37:09 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:46:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <47618AF4.5000208@gmail.com> <20071214152742.745c7b44@gumby.homeunix.com.> In-Reply-To: <20071214152742.745c7b44@gumby.homeunix.com.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712141646.07364.wundram@beenic.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:44:21 -0000 Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007 16:27:42 schrieb RW: > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:06:25 -0800 > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > Consider also that the majority of webinterfaces to mailservers > > are written using the uw-c-client imap libraries. So you go ahead > > and install dovecot - then watch when you install a webinterface > > the port manager sucking in the uw imap stuff anyway. Might as > > well run the uw imap server if your going to run the uw libraries. > > None of the major webmail clients appear to depend on cclient > _The_ major webmail clients (Horde-IMP and SquirrelMail come to mind as the most used ones immediately) are written in PHP and require the IMAP extension for PHP (to do IMAP), which in turn depends on cclient, so basically the major webmail clients do depend on cclient (even though indirectly). Why the cclient dependency (for the IMAP extension of PHP) doesn't show up in your grepping of ports I don't know, but it's an easy check for you to test that the IMAP extension for PHP either comes with cclient bundled, or with a dependency on it that's slightly hidden in the Makefile. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:45:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8223916A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:45:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190A913C448 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEFilSr058084; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:44:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id JCk9dHTZRu7e; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:44:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEFgY52058029; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:42:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4762A463.40304@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:42:27 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt LaPlante References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071214022529.GA2571@kobe.laptop> <4761F17F.9030908@chuckr.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Chuck Robey , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:45:05 -0000 Matt LaPlante wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 9:59 PM, Chuck Robey wrote: >> Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>> On 2007-12-13 18:05, Chad Perrin wrote: >>>> I ran across this today: >>>> >>>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ >>>> >>>> Title: >>>> Csh Programming Considered Harmful >> That was written sometime last millenium, I mean, it's REALLY old. The >> question is sort of flamebait (you ought to go ask it on, say, the Linux >> IRC channel, for well-reasoned, adult discussion (NOT!) > > One could argue that making irrelevant, potentially insulting > statements about alternative operating systems is: > - not adult > - not well-reasoned > - flamebait And you took it ;-) --- don't read too much into his words. IRC is the hottest flame war protocol on the planet, and you're more likely to have large numbers of $any_type_person on a channel with a large number of users anyway; since Linux has more users than BSD, it makes sense to me. Chuck said, "Go to a Linux IRC channel with this question and watch for something that rivals the Great Chicago Fire happen in 2 seconds." He could have easily said "##freebsd on Freenode", but it'd have been a smaller and cooler flame war. He didn't say "Tux Sucks". Kevin Kinsey -- There are really not many jobs that actually require a penis or a vagina, and all other occupations should be open to everyone. -- Gloria Steinem From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 15:54:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AC16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:54:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victorsubervi@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF29213C467 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from victorsubervi@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so1915288waf.3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:54:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NzN37Ma8JRbVHNHHYIFThSjl5ZNBmAdFJAWgXXdx/9I=; b=Od6aIOtAMPe7B3JbhQrRMOhkOtZqrOo2SxSdLvTCujka0mb2BUtx8rfysoMhLPIJrbXQxlapWuGcEo6eIUUXCMw1+vXjpnfVlNUaiMjh/IEN8+LuvJ/z/AQbP6ZOJWM1DUbYA2fpe95Iyb/UM2PkoVAdHEvf0YGOOlxdpVZEN/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qlmCYvK+tE8pEfRGyk23esk+wyG7HJk4DL1hV0QoWICmibbKSYYeuV9tnUzFGM/q9zHRZDI9tDVuMpvj9SaFA0hHBn8WNRF/64TsAWEgW+om/E7yhQo3NAUDujBV1HiIeemY7WjG8qwtpPVWMUz+nIMwsCWEYnI8J3qw9/QQpSo= Received: by 10.140.174.18 with SMTP id w18mr218086rve.227.1197646012958; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:26:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.169.19 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:26:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4dc0cfea0712140726h70fbf8e9v272d5e3d314d8335@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:26:52 -0400 From: "Victor Subervi" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problem With PoEdit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:54:39 -0000 Hi; I installed poedit from the port on 5.5. I didn't have X11 before, so it took a very_long_time. Once installed, I tried to fire it up: # poedit Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly? What do? TIA, Victor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 16:30:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8303D16A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586E013C46A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@philip.pjkh.com) Received: from bravo.pjkh.com (bravo.pjkh.com [72.36.232.219]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D5813C412; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9383113C411; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bravo.pjkh.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9254213C40F; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:49:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:49:09 -0800 (PST) From: Philip Hallstrom To: Satria Bramana In-Reply-To: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071214104803.P93432@bravo.pjkh.com> References: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:30:39 -0000 > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give suggestion > what package to use? I will only use it for study purpose, so I need one > that easy to configure and help me understand the big picture about > mailserver.. Thank you very much.. Roundcube is pretty slick... acts more like a real app than most of the others... http://roundcube.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 16:43:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA7C16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: from server1.grabweb.com (split.grabweb.net [67.15.22.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D01A13C461 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from WD@US-Webmasters.com) Received: (qmail 2546 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 10:37:17 -0600 Received: from batv-01-192.dsl.netins.net (HELO Sabrina.US-Webmasters.com) (207.199.193.192) by uswdns.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 10:37:17 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:37:10 -0600 To: samba@lists.samba.org From: "W. D." In-Reply-To: <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> References: <20071212065822.4F6A313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> <475F9560.40703@FreeBSD.org> <20071212090407.8B26613C478@mx1.freebsd.org> <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Remko Lodder , Timur@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2,1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:43:58 -0000 At 09:50 12/12/2007, Remko Lodder wrote: >W. D. wrote: >> At 02:01 12/12/2007, Remko Lodder wrote: >>> W. D. wrote: >>>> ...Vulnerability - CVE-2007-6015" >>>> >>>> http://www.freshports.org/net/samba3/ >>>> >>>>=20 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D >>>> *samba3 3.0.26a_2,1* net >>>> =3D220 >>>> >>>=20 >= >uery=3Dnet/samba3> >>>> FORBIDDEN: "Remote Code Execution Vulnerability - CVE-2007-6015" >>>> IGNORE: is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution Vulnerability -= CVE-2007-6015" >>>>=20 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D >>>> >>>>=20 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D >>>> 11 Dec 2007 22:39:55 >>>> *3.0.26a_2,1* remko >>>> >>>=20 > >>>> >>>> Make Samba forbidden till Timur had the time to upgrade this, >>>> because >>>> samba appears to be vulnerable to remote code execution which could= harm >>>> our users. >>>> >>>> This will be removed after we have a safe version to which we can >>>> upgrade. >>>> >>>> Hat: =20 >>>> secteam >>>> Discussed with and requested >>>> by: timur >>>> >>>>=20 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D >>>> >>>> Dang! When will this be fixed? >>>> >>>> >>> Soon, there are patches available, we just need to make sure that it >>> doesn't bite anything while we are in a ports-slush, hence the FORBIDDEN >>> part. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Remko >>=20 >> Hours? Days? Weeks? >>=20 > >The freebsd port will be up to date as soon as possible, there are fixes >available already on the Samba websites.. > >Best regards, >remko Well, it's been 2 days now. When will the code be updated in the FreeBSD ports? The version on the Samba website is 3.0.28. (http://www.Samba.org/) Why is the FreeBSD ports version stuck at 3.0.26a_2,1? If there are fixes available already on the Samba websites, why can't they be integrated into the ports? I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? It seems to me that leaving a port broken like this is very "unprofessional". I would expect more from the folks maintaing FreeBSD. When is it going to be fixed? Does "soon" mean this century? This year? When? 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If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! 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You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? ========================================= Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD, FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help for 99% of all questions, however: If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these questions at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html, and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at /usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular UNIX utility. If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure, or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to FreeBSD-questions. If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem report with the send-pr utility. If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the message to FreeBSD-hackers. 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If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. For further information on this subject, check out http://www.lemis.com/email.html. 5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No route to host'''. If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say (for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'''. If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file? 8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part of the world. 9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- V: How to follow up to a question ================================= Often you will want to send in additional information to a question you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your original message. This has three advantages: 1. You include the original message text, so people will know what you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out, though. 2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by subject. This helps group messages together. 3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages, showing the exact relationships between the messages. VI: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system, it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more information. 5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc: lines appropriately. 7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what you're talking about. 8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending ``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. 9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where each reply comes before the text to which it replies. 10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. 11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. $Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $ _______________________________________________ Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 17:02:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 645) id A3F6916A421; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:02:02 +0000 (UTC) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: <20071214170202.A3F6916A421@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:02:02 +0000 (UTC) From: grog@FreeBSD.ORG (Greg Lehey) Cc: Subject: "The Complete FreeBSD": errata and addenda X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:02:02 -0000 The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. "The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 17:08:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BB816A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4BF13C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:08:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from myhome.net (adsl-1-192-135.bna.bellsouth.net[65.1.192.135]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with SMTP id <20071214165810H0100n2n7ce>; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:58:12 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.1.192.135] Received: (qmail 35838 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Dec 2007 16:58:32 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:58:32 -0600 From: Paul Procacci To: "W. D." Message-ID: <20071214165832.GG64394@procacci.kicks-ass.org> References: <20071212065822.4F6A313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> <475F9560.40703@FreeBSD.org> <20071212090407.8B26613C478@mx1.freebsd.org> <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, Remko Lodder , Timur@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:08:15 -0000 > Well, it's been 2 days now. When will the code be updated > in the FreeBSD ports? The version on the Samba website is > 3.0.28. (http://www.Samba.org/) Why is the FreeBSD ports > version stuck at 3.0.26a_2,1? > > If there are fixes available already on the Samba websites, > why can't they be integrated into the ports? > > I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like > to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? > > It seems to me that leaving a port broken like this is > very "unprofessional". I would expect more from the folks > maintaing FreeBSD. > > When is it going to be fixed? Does "soon" mean this century? > This year? When? Would you like to give the maintainer some money to hurry your absolute and urgent need? This has been said more than enough times, but people have jobs that actually make them money, and henceforth their priority. Resorting to negative comments doesn't make the testing phase of an updated port go any faster. > I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like > to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? How about working with the maintainer, testing patches, and helping with the port? That certainly would be more beneficial to the community. ;P ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 17:09:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1852416A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:09:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5A213C467 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cblasius@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id y2so1428114uge.37 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:09:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=6yLoO6wFoE9BfAmbfJjZacOdRwcaMTEBaBswyeMlN/4=; b=sXPFuqqapEw6eTLSPkeGfB88z83dnMBKTDwaKeH77QXR57HUR17Me44JLHWzf/z+5I33LgQn6MlP+qrzBf1tbxuLOyN69NfbIF2qk/MHGxCIMKH9xT0BzYD9udTAOkN2IDUPGSZnt9pRVKAo/+d+YMPmyzPjTK/OFVduKBtJSH4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=SHc3tFnTYppuedsUXPdjY/WxJWuJTHUqkOm0beKkRH+Cr7a+fRHSISNjFJiESR9dcOGJ9vSe3iliGgN5xhOG+j18cy588PcxUBB/Y1D99zK6aQB++q6H/5ywOvRAqKz8m9NbfiEgRBqfc3zy+b8BJhwVbkz/RHOlEvGtyMAOSqU= Received: by 10.67.15.8 with SMTP id s8mr204309ugi.42.1197650555506; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from xdsl-5405.zgora.dialog.net.pl ( [84.40.169.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l40sm1163588ugc.2007.12.14.08.42.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:42:34 -0800 (PST) From: Zbigniew Komarnicki To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:42:29 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712141742.30001.cblasius@gmail.com> Subject: csh programing book X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:09:37 -0000 Hello! Is there a good programming book for csh as for example for bash (free available) ? For bash is here: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ Is such book for csh on the net (free available) ? Thank you for any hints. Best regards, Zbigniew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 17:39:24 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D0216A420 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6541B13C46E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:39:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBEHcoKS022064; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:38:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBEHcovm022063; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:38:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:38:50 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: "W. D." Message-ID: <20071214173850.GA22045@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20071212065822.4F6A313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> <475F9560.40703@FreeBSD.org> <20071212090407.8B26613C478@mx1.freebsd.org> <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, Remko Lodder , Timur@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:39:24 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:37:10AM -0600, W. D. wrote: > At 09:50 12/12/2007, Remko Lodder wrote: > >W. D. wrote: > >>>> Dang! When will this be fixed? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Soon, there are patches available, we just need to make sure that it > >>> doesn't bite anything while we are in a ports-slush, hence the FORBIDDEN > >>> part. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> Remko > >> > >> Hours? Days? Weeks? > >> > > > >The freebsd port will be up to date as soon as possible, there are fixes > >available already on the Samba websites.. > > > >Best regards, > >remko > > Well, it's been 2 days now. When will the code be updated > in the FreeBSD ports? The version on the Samba website is > 3.0.28. (http://www.Samba.org/) Why is the FreeBSD ports > version stuck at 3.0.26a_2,1? > > If there are fixes available already on the Samba websites, > why can't they be integrated into the ports? > > I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like > to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? > > It seems to me that leaving a port broken like this is > very "unprofessional". I would expect more from the folks > maintaing FreeBSD. > > When is it going to be fixed? Does "soon" mean this century? > This year? When? I guess, if you are in a hurry, you are welcome to do the work. It will get done as soon as the volunteers who maintain it get to doing it. If you need it sooner, then get busy and do it yourself. You won't assist them any by getting sarcastic and juvenile about it either. ////jerry > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 18:01:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C917C16A469 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from galain.elvandar.org (galain.elvandar.org [217.148.169.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8061013C469 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:01:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.we-dare.net ([127.0.0.1] helo=galain.elvandar.org) by galain.elvandar.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1J3DhD-000916-Sa; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:47:31 +0100 Received: from 194.74.82.3 (SquirrelMail authenticated user remko) by galain.elvandar.org with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:47:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <26512.194.74.82.3.1197650851.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <20071214163719.CF27C13C448@mx1.freebsd.org> References: <20071212065822.4F6A313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> <475F9560.40703@FreeBSD.org> <20071212090407.8B26613C478@mx1.freebsd.org> <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> <20071214163719.CF27C13C448@mx1.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:47:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Remko Lodder" To: "W. D." User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, timur@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:01:04 -0000 On Fri, December 14, 2007 5:37 pm, W. D. wrote: > At 09:50 12/12/2007, Remko Lodder wrote: >>W. D. wrote: > Well, it's been 2 days now. When will the code be updated > in the FreeBSD ports? The version on the Samba website is > 3.0.28. (http://www.Samba.org/) Why is the FreeBSD ports > version stuck at 3.0.26a_2,1? I figure you have some spare time to help maintain these issues? As you might be aware we are in the process of having a release cycle and we are investigating which ports need to be upgraded to do this properly without breaking an entire release. THAT takes a little including rebuilding ports. > > If there are fixes available already on the Samba websites, > why can't they be integrated into the ports? They can, we are working on it Just have a little patience > > I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like > to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? Ah yes make my day and make it happen, just dont come back whining in case it does not do what you would have expected or something. If you need the thing urgently install it manually and be done with it. > > It seems to me that leaving a port broken like this is > very "unprofessional". I would expect more from the folks > maintaing FreeBSD. Exactly; please go to the Windows team and install windows on your machine to get more professional support, including paying for everything You tend to forget that we are volunteers and cannot handle it all; if you know better, please step up and work on it else stfu. > > When is it going to be fixed? Does "soon" mean this century? > This year? When? > For you i'll make an exception for 2010... For every other person, we will have this incorporated ASAP. > > > > > Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> > http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ > $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ > > -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 18:06:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D123D16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeeshandoit@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 872CA13C45A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:06:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zeeshandoit@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so374903anc.13 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:06:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=LvJnraUhaf7lwb4uaA05pYi7rYPk47ITmASBruqEP1Q=; b=fmOeVpFD3ZsdKCX09yhfu23Nmxit+qz8iJ88hMEb+QrkksUztTE56EwkEm+Tzxa7ZJlAOPcX8HBQIs6ffhEM2QMtPEw3jDKvnA1pNw57TVIDuHDDwzK1o62dyNdSEzwgetpgqsorSProNXlXRswVwBJY4wV1CuWCo1Gr2sdN/2A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=swP6+HXrtkdGLCzWCPSKGtYW1m1jgJcoC+gSO+mWMv+MCM8ZRm1Am/2HEXo8wchKV95MkSYL6UqZMUDi5hfEyXLgVPl2M3VwQpWcje0HQaFiIvHzXkVXUwKiv2WJvJWHYhIfyTzPAwQP8mzlPqnN7yXPfUjg8VObyfEm2bGVV/A= Received: by 10.100.206.11 with SMTP id d11mr7359688ang.98.1197654110150; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.123.10 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:41:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:41:50 -0500 From: "Zeeshan Ahmad" To: questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Installation CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:06:58 -0000 Hi, I want to ask which iso image i have to download from this link: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2/ that will install FreeBSD from CD ROM direclty because there are bootonly iso, disc1 and disc2 iso's as well. So which iso i have to download and then i only need to burn that iso on CD and i can start installation and no other extra thing i have to do. Any suggestion? Regards, Zeeshan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 18:15:06 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E20016A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:15:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D6D13C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:15:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEC54654FD for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:14:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:14:52 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <00F284B95DA09D29B16C59D1@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Re: Installation CD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:15:06 -0000 --On Friday, December 14, 2007 12:41:50 -0500 Zeeshan Ahmad wrote: > Hi, > > I want to ask which iso image i have to download from this link: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/6.2/ > > that will install FreeBSD from CD ROM direclty because there are bootonly > iso, disc1 and disc2 iso's as well. So which iso i have to download and > then i only need to burn that iso on CD and i can start installation and > no other extra thing i have to do. Any suggestion? > That depends on what you want to do. If all you want to do is install the minimal install of FreeBSD, then disc1 will do the job. If you want to install "extra" stuff (like X, bash, sudo, etc.) you will probably need disc2 as well. Or you can use disc1 to install FreeBSD minimal, then run sysinstall afterwards and get everything else you need directly off the internet. -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 19:10:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C85D16A419; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CMarcus@Media-Brokers.com) Received: from smtp01.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net (smtp-out1.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net [70.43.63.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF66313C447; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CMarcus@Media-Brokers.com) Received: from moria.media-brokers.com (70.43.81.99.nw.nuvox.net [70.43.81.99]) by smtp01.atlngahp.sys.nuvox.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBEI2Nd2024074; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:02:23 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.110] (sjester.atl.media-brokers.com [192.168.1.110]) by moria.media-brokers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB8D2AF3EC; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4762C52F.60701@Media-Brokers.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:02:23 -0500 From: Charles Marcus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "W. D." References: <20071212065822.4F6A313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> <475F9560.40703@FreeBSD.org> <20071212090407.8B26613C478@mx1.freebsd.org> <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> <20071214163720.460CA162AF2@lists.samba.org> In-Reply-To: <20071214163720.460CA162AF2@lists.samba.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, Remko Lodder , Timur@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:10:54 -0000 On 12/14/2007, W. D. (WD@US-Webmasters.com) wrote: > When is it going to be fixed? Does "soon" mean this century? > This year? When? Wow... someone needs to think before they speak. This is free software. You are in no position to make demands or whine about things like this. Besides - you're complaining to the wrong people - you need to find the FreeBSD ports maintainer for samba, and bug HIM (or her)... -- Best regards, Charles From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 19:25:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5A016A4A1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDAE13C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 18958 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 19:25:36 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2007 19:25:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4762D814.6000704@chuckr.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:23:00 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214011614.GA18559@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20071214011614.GA18559@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Mike Jeays , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:25:36 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:12:32PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > >> On December 13, 2007 08:05:42 pm Chad Perrin wrote: >>> I ran across this today: >>> >>> http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ >>> >>> Title: >>> Csh Programming Considered Harmful >>> >>> I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to >>> tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). >> As you can see, it is 11 years old, but still good advice. For interactive >> use, tcsh is not too bad, but for writing scripts of any length, sh or bash >> are considered better tools. For code that will run anywhere, stick to the >> sh subset. >> >> Bash has all the features one is likely to need for interactive use >> as well, and one could make a good case for it being the 'standard' shell >> now. > > Here it is. > I find bash to be ugly and hate it for interactive use. > I would rather just use /bin/sh. As long as folks don't stop me from running whatever I want, I don't care if you use bash, but it really irks me, that most Linux systems are broken in that respect: Most of them break badly in random ways, if you don't run bash as your shell. That's poor programming practice, but the Linux programmers, since they all run bash themselves, they don't see the results of their errors, and they all claim its not a problem. Try running tcsh there, you'll see what I mean reasonably soon, when you begin to get random weirdnesses... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 19:32:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBAD16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2017C13C442 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: (qmail 8290 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2007 19:32:35 -0000 Received: from april.chuckr.org (chuckr@[66.92.151.30]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 14 Dec 2007 19:32:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4762D9B8.9080107@chuckr.org> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:30:00 -0500 From: Chuck Robey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.9) Gecko/20071107 SeaMonkey/1.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satria Bramana References: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:32:36 -0000 Satria Bramana wrote: > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me understand the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. > I use postfix and dovecot, and dovecot is in imap4 mode. This makes it possible for me to use seamonkey (or really, any browser that has a mail interface) to pick up my mail from any location. Does good enough filtering, although I am investigating adding some extra filtering via postfix. Setting up dovecot/postfix is easier than most mailers (it's a PITA, but the others are basically worse) and there are a lot of examples on the web for setting the combination of postfix/dovecot up. For security, I use ssl (openssl) and ssl has a really nice tool, "openssl", that has among its different modes, sclient and sserver, which allow pretty good testing of your ssl setup, and you can find on the web instructions for setting up your keys (lts of examples all over). > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 19:50:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED1216A4A1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.78.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F8013C46E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id C062B28431; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:37 -0500 (EST) To: "Victor Subervi" References: <4dc0cfea0712140726h70fbf8e9v272d5e3d314d8335@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:50:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4dc0cfea0712140726h70fbf8e9v272d5e3d314d8335@mail.gmail.com> (Victor Subervi's message of "Fri\, 14 Dec 2007 11\:26\:52 -0400") Message-ID: <448x3xoy2a.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.99 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem With PoEdit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:50:39 -0000 "Victor Subervi" writes: > Hi; > I installed poedit from the port on 5.5. I didn't have X11 before, so it > took a very_long_time. Once installed, I tried to fire it up: > # poedit > Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly? > What do? I don't know the program, but it looks like it only runs inside of X, so you need to have X actually running when you start it. Was this the case? If so, did you check what DISPLAY was set to? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 19:57:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FBE316A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from omr10.networksolutionsemail.com (omr10.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.60]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C335113C4D1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:57:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from idmc_vivr@intgdev.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr10.mgt.hosting.dc2.netsol.com [10.49.6.73]) by omr10.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id lBEJjFxS021872 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:45:15 -0500 Received: (qmail 9989 invoked by uid 78); 14 Dec 2007 19:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO webmail16) (205.178.146.50) by ns-omr10.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 19:44:43 -0000 Received: from 209.254.236.34 (idmc_vivr@intgdev.com [209.254.236.34]) by webmail16 (Netsol 11.2.30) with WEBMAIL id 5303; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:44:43 +0000 From: "V.I.Victor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Message-ID: X-Mailer: Network Solutions Webmail, Build 11.2.30 X-Originating-IP: [209.254.236.34] X-Forwarded-For: [(null)] Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:44:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Changing "/var/mail" to a symlink X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:57:14 -0000 Because of "/var" size considerations, I'd like to use a symlinked "/usr" directory for email instead of "/var/mail". Based on today's research, I think the following will work. With mail delivery off, I 'su' and: mkdir /usr/var.mail cd /var cp -p mail/* /usr/var.mail/ mv mail mail.bak ln -s /usr/var.mail mail Since 'ls -l /var' shows: drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 512 Dec 14 14:24 mail I should then: cd /usr chmod 1777 var.mail chown root:mail var.mail No changes are made to the "/var/mail" symlink. Then, if everything works, I just delete "/usr/mail.bak". Does this seem OK? Sorry to bother everyone with what's probably a trivial question, but I *really* want to avoid screwing-up. The machine is remote; accessed via ssh. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 20:07:30 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577FB16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:07:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from schrodinger.com (thermidore.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1630513C4E5 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:07:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Received: from [192.156.98.12] (ithi.schrodinger.com [192.156.98.12]) by schrodinger.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id lBEK7Tw7098540 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gao@schrodinger.com) Message-ID: <4762E280.2050407@schrodinger.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:07:28 -0800 From: Simon Gao User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071121) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (schrodinger.com [192.156.98.99]); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:07:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: cannot open br: no such file error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:07:30 -0000 Hi, I am seeing many errors in htpd-erro.log file like: cannot open br: no such file cannot open br: no such file cannot open br: no such file cannot open br: no such file cannot open br: no such file Does this mean there is something wrong with file system? or disk? Has anyone else seen similar error? Simon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 20:19:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A69C16A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-30.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-30.bluehost.com [69.89.17.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0FE313C459 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 13674 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 20:19:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 20:19:22 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J3H0E-0006Z5-CS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:22 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBEKJKNh024101 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:20 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBEKJJ3v024100 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:19 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214201919.GC23649@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <20071213192131.Y7985@wonkity.com> <20071214070941.GD20150@demeter.hydra> <20071214142628.4ef75102@gumby.homeunix.com.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214142628.4ef75102@gumby.homeunix.com.> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:19:23 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 02:26:28PM +0000, RW wrote: > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:09:41 -0700 > Chad Perrin wrote: > > > Hmm -- fair answer. I was kind of thinking that on FreeBSD I should > > maybe do such work in csh as the standard shell, but it occurs to me > > that I'd probably be pretty hard-pressed to find a FreeBSD system > > without sh on it. > > csh isn't the standard shell, it's just the default login shell for > root. All of the installed shell scripts are for sh, and the > sysinstall default for ordinary users is sh. > > I think it's just the case that sysinstall doesn't have normal user > setup page for the root account, so it's sets a sensible default shell > for interactive use. Thanks for clarifying that point. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Kent Beck: "I always knew that one day Smalltalk would replace Java. I just didn't know it would be called Ruby." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 20:24:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB9C16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-53.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-53.bluehost.com [69.89.20.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E44A13C46B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 10622 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 20:24:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 20:24:35 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J3H5H-0007ce-8R for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:24:35 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBEKOX6L024140 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:24:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBEKOXCC024139 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:24:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:24:33 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071214202433.GD23649@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <164187.49783.qm@web88302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <20071214071254.GE20150@demeter.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:36 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:46:17AM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote: > > On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:12 AM, Chad Perrin wrote: > >For the record . . . title changes for new editions like that annoy me. > >It can make it pretty difficult at times trying to determine whether or > >not I'm about to buy a duplicate. The switch from Learning Perl > >Objects, > >References, and Modules to Intermediate Perl was another example of > >that > >sort of annoyance. > > > > Perhaps you should look in /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/pod, which from > my experience, has been better than any book I've ever seen for perl. > Try running `perldoc perlintro` and `perldoc perllol`. With exceptions > such as "old standard" languages, most free documentation that comes > with the interpreter/compiler tends to be better than any book. A > print out of perl's documentation would be far more valuable than > almost any perl book on the market. I use the hell out of perldoc. There was a time when I wanted to read the latest edition of PORM, aka Intermediate Perl, though, in part because of the presentation of information (and not just the information itself). I also find it a lot easier to read huge chunks of technical text in dead tree format than on-screen, and easier to read bound books than printed pages (to say nothing of the cost of replacing toner and drum in my laser printer if I use it all up printing out perldoc pages). > > Although I haven't looked much into any FreeBSD book, I wouldn't be > surprised at all if FreeBSD's documentation combined with > freebsd-questions would outweigh it. Yes and no. For some purposes, it's easier to find what I need with something like The Complete FreeBSD than freebsd-questions. For others, freebsd-questions makes it easier. I'm not a "One True Answer" kind of guy when it comes to different means of researching -- I prefer to use the method best suited to what I need at a given moment. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Baltasar Gracian: "A wise man gets more from his enemies than a fool from his friends." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 20:25:27 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC70A16A479 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2313C474 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <4762E6B3.7000809@intersonic.se> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:25:23 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Satria Bramana References: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <640083.57258.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Webmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:28 -0000 Satria Bramana wrote: > Can anyone who had experience running a web-based e-mail give suggestion what package to use? I will only use it for study purpose, so I need one that easy to configure and help me understand the big picture about mailserver.. Thank you very much.. IMP from the Horde project is an excellent web client, arguably the best. http://www.horde.org/imp/ --per From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 20:26:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437D416A494 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-74.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-74.bluehost.com [69.89.20.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8432713C45B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:26:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 21109 invoked by uid 0); 14 Dec 2007 20:26:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by mailproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 20:26:21 -0000 Received: from c-24-9-123-251.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.9.123.251] helo=demeter.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1J3H6z-00083B-0T for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:26:21 -0700 Received: from demeter.hydra (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBEKQJW3024161 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:26:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (from ren@localhost) by demeter.hydra (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id lBEKQJM1024160 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:26:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) X-Authentication-Warning: demeter.hydra: ren set sender to perrin@apotheon.com using -f Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:26:19 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071214202619.GE23649@demeter.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Mailing List References: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <47627090.5000304@uniquestrength.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47627090.5000304@uniquestrength.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.net} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 24.9.123.251 authed with apotheon.com} X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box183.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - apotheon.com Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:26:22 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 07:01:20AM -0500, Sam I Am wrote: > > The book announcement says that the book is completely revised. > > (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271510/#top) > > I am interested if this book covers mostly FreeBSD 6 or 7. I also would > like to see the table of contents online. > Maybe, I will just have to go to Borders or some place like that. Assuming we're still talking about Absolute FreeBSD . . . A review I found on Amazon indicates that it covers version 6, as well as some information about the upcoming version 7 (since 7 isn't in stable release yet). -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] John Kenneth Galbraith: "If all else fails, immortality can always be assured through spectacular error." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 20:54:29 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4060316A469 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:54:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1694713C45B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:54:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D36C654FD for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:54:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:54:28 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: drm locking up the desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:54:29 -0000 I recently upgraded to 6.2 release (i386) on my desktop workstation, and I'm experiencing occasional lockups that require restarting X to resolve. I can ssh in to the box and kill the process and force a restart, but the desktop is completely unusable - both mouse and keyboard don't function - so I can't restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc. When I ssh in, performance is normal and top doesn't show any unusual memory or CPU usage. PID974 was the pid for X. I found these errors in /var/log/messages: Dec 12 09:36:51 utd59514 kernel: error: [drm:pid974:drm_lock_take] *ERROR* 1 holds heavyweight lock Dec 12 09:36:51 utd59514 kernel: error: [drm:pid974:drm_lock_take] *ERROR* 1 holds heavyweight lock Although these showed up on the 12th, the desktop just locked up a few minutes ago, so they *may* be unrelated. I tried unloading drm (kldunload drm.ko), but that failed. When I grep the Xorg log I see these errors: root@utd59514# grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to write to DVO Slave 112. (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to write to DVO Slave 112. (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to write to DVO Slave 112. I don't know if these are related to the problem either. I'm wondering 1) has anybody else experienced this problem and 2) does anyone have any suggestions as to where to start looking for the answer? -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 21:10:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4236816A4C9 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95A913C43E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J3HnS-0007L9-SG for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:14 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id lBELADmT000462 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:14 GMT Received: (qmail 13109 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Dec 2007 21:10:08 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:08 +0000 To: Mike Jeays Message-ID: <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RC1 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:16 -0000 On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:12:32PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > > On December 13, 2007 08:05:42 pm Chad Perrin wrote: > > I ran across this today: > > > > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ > > > > Title: > > Csh Programming Considered Harmful > > > > I wonder what responses I might get here, and how much of this applies to > > tcsh as well (I'm still not exactly a tcsh expert). > > As you can see, it is 11 years old, but still good advice. For interactive > use, tcsh is not too bad, but for writing scripts of any length, sh or bash > are considered better tools. For code that will run anywhere, stick to the > sh subset. > > Bash has all the features one is likely to need for > interactive use as well, and one could make a good case for it being > the 'standard' shell now. Standard shell for what? Linux maybe but not FreeBSD or any of the other BSDs for that matter. It being GPL guarantees that quite apart from it general suckiness. I used bash for an interactive shell for about 5 years until I discovered the goodness of pdksh. About half the size, statically linked, not full of bugs and better editing features. Plus it's not GPL. I tried replacing /bin/bash with /bin/ksh on a Linux system and it almost completely broke it. Suggests the Linux folks can't write boot scripts without bashisms. I'm tempted to try doing the same on FreeBSD (replace sh with pdksh) just for the hell of it and see what happens. I'm happy with sh as the system shell though; it's light weight: $ ls -l /bin/sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111028 Nov 30 00:10 /bin/sh $ ls -l /bin/ksh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 681584 Oct 6 12:33 /bin/ksh How about giving us all a laugh and posting the results for bash ;) -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 21:17:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2FE16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD5313C43E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:17:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D272E07E4; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:16:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:16:58 +0100 From: cpghost To: barner@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20071214211657.GA24213@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: devel/boost -- where is tools/build/v2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:17:01 -0000 Hello, I'm trying to walk through the tutorial of Boost.Python (the devel/boost-python port)... and unless I'm running out of coffe right now, it seems as if the boost port is not fully installed/specified! Isn't boost supposed to come with a tools/build/v2 directory? Where is it? Thanks for any insight, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 21:22:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572D216A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (omr6.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043AF13C4E3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from mail.networksolutionsemail.com (ns-omr6.mgt.netsol.com [10.49.6.69]) by omr6.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id lBELM0dm006421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:22:00 -0500 Received: (qmail 27375 invoked by uid 78); 14 Dec 2007 21:22:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO makeworld.com) (71.113.191.123) by ns-omr6.lb.hosting.dc2.netsol.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 2007 21:22:00 -0000 Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:21:59 -0600 From: Chris To: Chad Perrin Message-ID: <20071214152159.4fc95491@racerx.makeworld.com> In-Reply-To: <20071214202619.GE23649@demeter.hydra> References: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <47627090.5000304@uniquestrength.net> <20071214202619.GE23649@demeter.hydra> Organization: Makeworld.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:22:01 -0000 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:26:19 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 07:01:20AM -0500, Sam I Am wrote: > > > > The book announcement says that the book is completely revised. > > > > (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9781593271510/#top) > > > > I am interested if this book covers mostly FreeBSD 6 or 7. I also > > would like to see the table of contents online. > > Maybe, I will just have to go to Borders or some place like that. > > Assuming we're still talking about Absolute FreeBSD . . . > > A review I found on Amazon indicates that it covers version 6, as > well as some information about the upcoming version 7 (since 7 isn't > in stable release yet). > I'm nearly done with this book - to me, I like reading many sources. As we all have found out, there are many ways to do one thing. This is what I feel is a benefit to having/reading variations to a similar topic. Additionally, I always find new things out that I didn't know before I started reading something on the same subject-matter. Of course even when the subject-matter covers the things I knew already, it's still a nice feeling of confirmation. Just my inflation-version of two cents. -- Best regards, Chris Do not open shrink-wrap until you have read and agreed to the conditions contained within. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 21:40:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6074516A421 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pushu@excite.com) Received: from excite.com (nn2.excitenetwork.com [207.159.120.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168C513C4CC for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:40:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pushu@excite.com) Received: by xprdmxin.myway.com (Postfix, from userid 110) id 47FD291FCE; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:23:41 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from [83.243.115.94] by xprdmailfe30.nwk.excite.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:23:41 EST X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: ID = cf2a527c5add1a18e3bab38047d258fe From: "O-ren-ishi-i" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: pushu@excite.com X-Mailer: PHP Importance: High X-Priority: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20071214212341.47FD291FCE@xprdmxin.myway.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:23:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kernel compile problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pushu@excite.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:40:56 -0000 Hi all, I use this kernel config file (follows below): syntactical the configuration appears ok.I get no errors here. When compiling the kernel I get errors as soon as the modules are being build. I then tried /etc/make.conf (adding this line as zlib.ko is the first module that makes problems) WITHOUT_MODULES = zlib I don't find the error. Thanks in advance Ryan I am running FreeBSD 6.2-Release i386 SMP ( on Athlon 64 X2 4600+ machine i386 #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident GENERIC # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 #options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. #make the console support higher resolutions options VESA options SC_PIXEL_MODE #SMP options SMP #multiprocessor device apic # I/O APIC # Bus support. device eisa device pci # Floppy drives #device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives #device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') #device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters #device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters #device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters #device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters #device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. #device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals #device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) #device ch # SCSI media changers #device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD #device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) #device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* #device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options #device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x #device rr232x # Highpoint RocketRAID 232x #device iir # Intel Integrated RAID #device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID #device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID #device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 #device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc # Enable this for the pcvt (VT220 compatible) console driver #device vt #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor device agp # support several AGP chipsets # Power management support (see NOTES for more options) #device apm # Add suspend/resume support for the i8254. device pmtimer # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support #device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge #device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus #device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to the sio and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card #device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card #device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100(precedence over 'lnc') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device stge # Sundance/Tamarack TC9021 gigabit Ethernet device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ device ep # Etherlink III based cards device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards device ie # EtherExpress 8/16, 3C507, StarLAN 10 etc. device lnc # NE2100, NE32-VL Lance Ethernet cards device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet # Wireless NIC cards #device wlan # 802.11 support #device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support #device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support #device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's #device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) #device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath #device awi # BayStack 660 and others #device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. #device wl # Older non 802.11 Wavelan wireless NIC. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs #device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player #device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires miibus #device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet #device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet #device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet #device cue # CATC USB Ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet #device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support #device firewire # FireWire bus code #device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) #device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) _______________________________________________ Join Excite! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 21:44:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CF616A418 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prestonh@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1AB13C4E1 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prestonh@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so1163790nfb.33 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:44:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=grWq+UJ0VyKe8dMcQPP+tpAt/opYT+NDXlAmR/BBQN4=; b=kdRZx4xlMS4MjvjPVSEylfS5F7QmHQCshkMDs7L9upQK7LfXc31XBAL7ssO3o1dvv0yDfEK1kXxqP3MymlVUteIfCt32YExcYPYK2f8NrT0N8XGgkILDQcwizXC6Xddd8J54kl4ETSg8UF1h6zmxuOnlIBq3G/XQ/n4PzWn5oXo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SX6eb8qFhSBuShiskv+cbWcHCPnR5/0C/JelBhS61bEgZW7XHXo12FiHgDlx1gKH8rd+rWFOgiEdLRkgc254hMH8ksu3MWf8FUjHw8X9XVqHbcIY6h+5i8EW9YUuT9okuwPPZyuvc9UmnPi3/qIV/UmKbo3fywItvsp5iJ/pU18= Received: by 10.78.200.20 with SMTP id x20mr4919911huf.43.1197667148412; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.196.19 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:19:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <8f5897560712141319r780ddafo3b64e855ad44d6d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:19:08 -0600 From: "Preston Hagar" To: "Sten Daniel Soersdal" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4761A597.8060901@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <476086E2.5030402@gmail.com> <4760CFC3.7060904@ibctech.ca> <4760D5C8.2010804@monkeybrains.net> <4761A597.8060901@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: (postfix) SPAM filter? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:44:42 -0000 > > I have found spam assassin with nightly updates of the helpful (there > > are other people developing new regexs daily). > > > > 48 5 * * * /usr/local/bin/sa-update --channel updates.spamassassin.org > > && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/sa-spamd restart > > > > There are other channels you can subscribe to. > > > > Another super helpful bocker is to block all inbound connections from > > IPs without reverse DNS. Don't forget to virus check your email while > > you are at it -- there are several packages (clamav is one). And > > finally, a couple of RBLs added into the mix are helpful. > > Awesome, i didn't see the subscriptions on their website. > This is exactly what i need. > > -- > Sten Daniel Soersdal > Something else I would recommend if you end up going the spamassassin route is to look at rules emporium and rules du jour http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm Rules Du Jour is a nice bash script that can automatically download and update the latest rules emporium rules for several different categories of spam. You just choose which rule lists you want to use (there are a lot of categories and then different levels of spam caught vs false positives within rule sets) and then set rules du jour as a nightly cron job to update your rule sets automatically. As some one else said, this lets you have other people keep your regexs up to date. I also added these lines to the top of the Rules Du Jour script to download a couple of other nice clamAV spam signatures: #update extra clam spam defs if [[ -d /var/lib/clamav/ ]]; then cd /var/lib/clamav/ && wget --timestamping http://download.mirror.msrbl.com/MSRBL-SPAM.ndb cd /var/lib/clamav/ && wget --timestamping http://www.sanesecurity.co.uk/clamav/scamsigs/scam.ndb.gz gunzip -cdf scam.ndb.gz > scam.ndb fi #end update extra clam spam defs I also use these smtpd restrictions in main.cf: smtpd_helo_required = yes smtpd_helo_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, check_helo_access hash:/etc/postfix/helo_access, reject_non_fqdn_hostname, reject_invalid_hostname, permit smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/client_restrictions, permit_sasl_authenticated, permit_mynetworks, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, permit smtpd_recipient_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_unknown_recipient_domain, reject_unknown_sender_domain, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/client_restrictions, permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination, reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org, permit Most of that came from here: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/focus_spam_postfix/ Greylisting is great, and usually doesn't delay mail more than 5 minutes, but in some rare cases it can lead to mail delays of sometimes up to 4 or 5 hours (which is within RFC specs for resending after a 302 message). For my personal server, that is no problem, so I have implemented postgrey (with the stuff above) and get almost no spam ever. For a few businesses I run mail servers for, they expect email to be instant (I know it doesn't have to be technically, but that is what a lot of people expect now a days). For them 20 extra spam a day by not doing grey listing is an okay trade off so that one contact from the new client shows up in time, instead of 3 hours too late. Anyway, I hope this helps. I am always trying to find new great spam solutions (using postfix), so I will continue watching this tread with great interest. Most of the companies I setup mail servers for would rather have 30 spam delivered per user per day than have even 1 false positive or 1 significantly delayed mail, so it is always a tricky line to walk (at least for me) to block as much spam as I can, without ever delaying or blocking a ham message, so I am always looking for new ideas and solutions. Preston From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 21:53:26 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E198416A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A30413C45B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBELrOPm042872; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "C Thala" , "freebsd" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:54:27 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <77647f500712140048o3d1bfd38p5877a24606d183e7@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Subject: RE: Netgear WG111T Wireless USB support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:53:27 -0000 Sorry, If you have to use wireless USB you want to buy one of the ones listed here: http://ralink.rapla.net/ They use the ural driver. Take it back and exchange it before the 30 day period runs out. Ted > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of C Thala > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:48 AM > To: freebsd > Subject: Netgear WG111T Wireless USB support? > > > Does FreeBSD support the Netgear WG111T Wireless USB device? > > I purchased it based on the fact that it uses an Atheros chipset, > which according to the 6.2R hardware notes: > "The ath(4) driver supports all Atheros Cardbus or PCI cards", I guess > that excludes USB? > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:01:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7754316A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from ape.monkeybrains.net (ape.monkeybrains.net [208.69.40.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515E913C4D3 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:01:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Received: from monchichi.monkeybrains.net (adsl-76-221-207-113.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net [76.221.207.113]) (authenticated bits=0) by ape.monkeybrains.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id lBEM1lXA099369 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from crapsh@monkeybrains.net) Message-ID: <4762FD82.8070108@monkeybrains.net> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:42 -0800 From: Rudy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Watanabe Kazuhiro References: <4761932D.7030106@monkeybrains.net> <20071214131601.40AEA51309@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> In-Reply-To: <20071214131601.40AEA51309@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on pita.monkeybrains.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:01:48 -0000 Watanabe Kazuhiro wrote: > At Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:16:45 -0800, > Rudy wrote: >> Watanabe Kazuhiro wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> At Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0800, >>> Rudy wrote: >>>>> After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better >>>>> phrase my question: >>>>> how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? >> ... >> >>> Audacity will be able to specify a different dsp device for the >>> recording and playback device via the "Audacity Preferences" panel >>> ("Edit" -> "Preferences" -> "Audio I/O"); e.g. /dev/dsp0 for playback, >>> and /dev/dsp1 for recording. >>> >>> Have you tried such configulation? >>> --- >>> Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) >> No luck. I only see '/dev/dsp'. It seems that dsp likes to automatically do stuff, but is not >> smart enough to always do the right thing. > > OK. My understanding is: > > * There is /dev/dsp0 which corresponds to pcm0 (snd_hda). > > * /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp0 are the same. e.g.: > > $ ls -l /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 83 Dec 14 20:55 /dev/dsp > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 83 Dec 14 20:55 /dev/dsp0 > $ > > * There is no /dev/dsp1. But there is /dev/dsp1.1 which corresponds > to pcm1 (snd_uaudio). > > If these are correct, will you try to make a symlink /dev/dsp1 which > points to /dev/dsp1.1 via devfs.conf(5)? i.e. Add the following line > to /etc/devfs.conf and then reboot the system: > > link dsp1.1 dsp1 > I entered these lines: # attempt to override the dsp0 input with the dsp1 input... doesn't work link dsp1.1 dsp0.1 # this didn't do anything link dsp1.1 dsp1 # this works... wanted to make sure I could do something. :) link dsp1.1 microphone and ran /etc/rc.d/devfs restart # ll /dev/ | grep dsp crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 121 Dec 14 13:55 /dev/dsp0.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 122 Dec 14 09:33 /dev/dsp0.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 126 Dec 14 09:33 /dev/dsp0.2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 145 Dec 14 09:31 /dev/dsp1.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 144 Dec 14 09:31 /dev/dsp1.1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Dec 14 13:52 /dev/microphone -> dsp1.1 # cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at memory 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:2v/1r:1v channels duplex default) pcm1: at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz ######### pcm0 is the motherboard sound/mic/lineout/etc ######### pcm1 is the usb mircophone # cd /dev # ln -s dsp1.1 dsp0.111 # ln -s dsp1.1 dsp0.1 # ll dsp* crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 121 Dec 14 14:01 dsp0.0 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Dec 14 14:01 dsp0.111 -> dsp1.1 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 126 Dec 14 09:33 dsp0.2 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 149 Dec 14 09:31 dsp1.0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 144 Dec 14 09:31 dsp1.1 I can't seem to force the dsp1.1 to be the dsp0.1 :( Rudy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:03:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA31B16A468 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC0D13C465 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:03:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBEM3iTk088634; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBEM3ipQ088633; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:03:44 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:03:43 -0800 Message-ID: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:03:43 -0800 From: Yuri To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.219.144.224 Subject: /usr/local/rc.d/apache22 start doesn't start Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:03:51 -0000 I installed Apache port. But when I run "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start" nothing happens. 'ps ax | grep httpd' returns nothing. So server wasn't started. Why nothing is printed and server not started with the first command? What is the right way to start the server? Thanks, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:13:36 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5247716A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE4F13C43E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBEMDTNF043360; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:13:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" , Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200712141646.07364.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:36 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Heiko Wundram > (Beenic) > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:46 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007 16:27:42 schrieb RW: > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:06:25 -0800 > > > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > Consider also that the majority of webinterfaces to mailservers > > > are written using the uw-c-client imap libraries. So you go ahead > > > and install dovecot - then watch when you install a webinterface > > > the port manager sucking in the uw imap stuff anyway. Might as > > > well run the uw imap server if your going to run the uw libraries. > > > > None of the major webmail clients appear to depend on cclient > > > > _The_ major webmail clients (Horde-IMP and SquirrelMail come to > mind as the > most used ones immediately) are written in PHP and require the > IMAP extension > for PHP (to do IMAP), which in turn depends on cclient, so basically the > major webmail clients do depend on cclient (even though indirectly). > > Why the cclient dependency (for the IMAP extension of PHP) > doesn't show up in > your grepping of ports I don't know, but it's an easy check for > you to test > that the IMAP extension for PHP either comes with cclient > bundled, or with a > dependency on it that's slightly hidden in the Makefile. > As I said I did a survey of all known web clients earlier this year that did not require a specific server - I might have even posted it to the list. But I guess that's a challenge to some people to "prove" I don't know what I'm talking about. ;-) If you feel you must avoid "c-client" you can do it the following way: 1) The webmail that comes with SquirrelMail I would be surprised if it uses it - but, that webmail is inseparable from the SquirrelMail SMTP server and cannot be installed separately. I didn't test it because of that. 2) Openwebmail is one of the few webmails that can -directly- access the mailboxes through the filesystem - of course you have to configure it to do this - and I think the port of it has the PHP imap extension listed as a dependency anyway. Neomail is the predicessor to openwebmail and is the same - of course, it has several known security holes. 3) Nullsoft webmail is pop3 only and does not use the c-client libs. There are significat problems with running webmail using a pop3 backend. 4) ilohamail wrote his own imap library and does not use c-client. Its not a bad webmail but the developer lost interest in it a while ago. you need to load it from the CVS. signatures in the cvs distro are broken, everything else works. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:14:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A016A41B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (freebsd.alaskaparadise.com [208.79.80.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB8513C459 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from 137-42-178-69.gci.net (137-42-178-69.gci.net [69.178.42.137]) by freebsd.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB6923835E6; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:14:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:13:50 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712141313.59654.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Yuri Subject: Re: /usr/local/rc.d/apache22 start doesn't start Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:14:09 -0000 On Friday 14 December 2007, Yuri said: > I installed Apache port. > But when I run "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start" nothing > happens. 'ps ax | grep httpd' returns nothing. > So server wasn't started. > > Why nothing is printed and server not started with the first > command? What is the right way to start the server? > > Thanks, > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Take a look at /var/log/httpd-error.log that should tell you why it's not starting. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://www.freebsd.org X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Latest Release: / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/6.2R/announce.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:18:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41F16A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:18:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from rosebud.otenet.gr (rosebud.otenet.gr [195.170.0.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB3113C457 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:18:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonicy@otenet.gr) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-318191.home.otenet.gr [85.72.98.141]) by rosebud.otenet.gr (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id lBEMI1p2022736; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:18:01 +0200 Message-ID: <47630119.4080005@otenet.gr> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:18:01 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuri References: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/local/rc.d/apache22 start doesn't start Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:18:05 -0000 Yuri wrote: > I installed Apache port. > But when I run "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start" nothing happens. > 'ps ax | grep httpd' returns nothing. > So server wasn't started. > > Why nothing is printed and server not started with the first command? > What is the right way to start the server? > > Thanks, > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > Edit /etc/rc.conf and add: apache22_enable="YES" then retry your command above. It is nominal for every port that acts as a daemon to have a corresponding portsomething_enable="YES" variable. If you really need to start it without registering the variable (e.g. for testing purposes), try /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 onestart in this case however, it will not restart automatically after system reboot. See also: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-apache.html (section 27.7.3) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:28:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A61416A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:28:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu (smtp3.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23C013C4DB for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pauls@utdallas.edu) Received: from utd59514.utdallas.edu (utd59514.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79058654FD for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:28:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:28:04 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: ugidfw can prevent /tmp access? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:28:05 -0000 If you used ugidfw to prevent temp access to only the range of uid's you presently have, I'm thinking this should prevent an attacker from using /tmp to get around permissions restrictions. The question is, is there any kind of succint guide or list of what daemons need access to /tmp in order to function? Or do all daemons need this? -- Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:33:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B937D16A417 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB9F13C465 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBEMXYxi045269; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:33:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "W. D." , Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> Cc: Remko Lodder , Timur@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:33:40 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of W. D. > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 8:37 AM > To: samba@lists.samba.org > Cc: Remko Lodder; Timur@freebsd.org; FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2,1 is forbidden: "Remote Code > Execution... > > > I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like > to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? > Samba is a VERY EASY package to manually compile. It is NOT necessary to use the FreeBSD ports system to install it. It would probably be a good idea to look at the FreeBSD samba port and see what dependencies it calls for, then install those, before compiling Samba. But, you just follow the instructions in the Samba distribution and it will work fine. This happens from time to time with the FreeBSD ports system, and there isn't any way to avoid it. Most open source software today is written to depend on other open source software packages. People don't like spending programming time reinventing the wheel. As a result you have a large dependency list which has deep roots as the dependent programs themselves have even more dependencies. If just one single program in that mess gets updated it will affect entire trees and many other programs. This really isn't any different with commercial software. Most commercial software today uses many commercial libraries. When one of those libraries has a security hole, all the commercial programs that are built with that library now have that same security hole. That is why it is so easy to crack into Windows systems, because most of the time those commercial software developers don't "mark their stuff forbidden" like the Open Source community does. Money is at stake. Instead they just quietly release "updates" that close those holes months after the fact. In the meantime the spammers have been having a field day breaking into Windows systems and setting them up as zombies. > It seems to me that leaving a port broken like this is > very "unprofessional". I would expect more from the folks > maintaing FreeBSD. > It is much more "unprofessional" to do as the "professionals" do and simply pretend the problem doesen't exist, then release an update when they get around to it. I will close by saying that the crackers and criminals out there who find and exploit these security holes are the real ones causing the problem, they are the real people you should be "expecting more" from. They don't have your server schedule in mind when they release cracking scripts. If your a real IT manager, you should be very aware of this already, and be used to it. Railing against a bunch of wannabe criminals that break into things doesen't help, nor does bitching about the results of those criminal's actions to people who are trying to protect your ass from being exposed to them. All you can do is just sit back, wait for the dust to clear, and proceed forward when the fight between the black and white hats is over with for the moment. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:37:57 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE23816A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B9B13C478 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1151463rvb.43 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:37:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6+oTo1DfKOO4Vi+lEFvCnSq2BDi+VMUHRivfl5pNjUs=; b=o46WQENFoMXQfx9RLBlRvKLnAd+waUpmeRw9HFIyvuTxSQrGTMKcxbOc/x9N643Vzh9EBXrYodb3cX3pZv76tgh9gcSxiIyOZU+M5XLGvbr0mw3Lo6G5xHDBp4kTj32eN9YWw/h/EA5qhqtIE2TdLfUpJMtvuwDUWrfoNL5ZUMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GjW2LZBJasxkpLgJ6EBnzWyPDppfxkzi5mzuL6ivz449LoWLyC0vEv+KdgehXfiSH4pjZwbBekzfr3DgHX1WG1T1JDDhr6XmthVfrE2IQgatiwlsSThufLjlnRjT4DjmkFIfhMiRa6r1JnUHxmBaiujiXXVHxNhQm34PnzPqhIs= Received: by 10.141.74.17 with SMTP id b17mr2248954rvl.144.1197670291194; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.133.20 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:11:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <89ce7f740712141411m4ecd5f17odb1e9bd9939bf96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:11:31 -0500 From: "Ivan \"Rambius\" Ivanov" To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/local/rc.d/apache22 start doesn't start Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:37:57 -0000 Hello Yuri, On Dec 14, 2007 5:03 PM, Yuri wrote: > I installed Apache port. > But when I run "/usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start" nothing happens. > 'ps ax | grep httpd' returns nothing. > So server wasn't started. > > Why nothing is printed and server not started with the first command? > What is the right way to start the server? I think you should add the line apache2_enable="YES" in your /etc/rc.conf. The starting script /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 checks if the rcvar in rc.conf is set to YES and if so it starts the server. You can see the exact name of the rc variable by executing /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 rcvar. Regards Rambius -- Tangra Mega Rock: http://www.radiotangra.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:38:48 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91816A420 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E18C13C465 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:38:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBEMcdKu045333; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:38:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Barnaby Scott" , "cpghost" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:39:42 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <47629FA9.9020609@waywood.co.uk> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: RE: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:38:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Barnaby Scott [mailto:bds@waywood.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:22 AM > To: cpghost > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD > > > It is aimed pretty squarely at budding sysadmins, not desktop users (X > is hardly even mentioned), We have many FreeBSD servers at my job that do many different things for people. Only 1 of them requires X in any form at all - and all it uses are the X libraries to do some graphics processing. It does not run a window manager. You can get a huge amount of useful work done on FreeBD without having anything to do with X. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:44:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F3216A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:44:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E8C13C44B for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:44:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBEMiLC7057050 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBEMiLTC057049 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:44:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:44:21 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071214224421.GA57010@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: GOOD boook! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:44:22 -0000 Many thank to whomever recommended SED AND AWK a few weeks ago. WAs it you, Giorgos? I have hundreds of thoussand of words to grep thru, and sed (and awk) have saved my shoulder from just falling off and lying there on the floor. just remember while I'm busy researching stuff... chow, y'all, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:49:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024E816A41A for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from mail.freeode.co.uk (mail.freeode.co.uk [87.127.24.125]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7757913C45D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Received: from asus.freeode.co.uk ([10.10.10.10]) by mail.freeode.co.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBEMljbi019132; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:47:45 GMT (envelope-from freebsd001@freeode.co.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:47:45 +0000 From: John Murphy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071214224745.353924d5@asus.freeode.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20071214212341.47FD291FCE@xprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20071214212341.47FD291FCE@xprdmxin.myway.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pushu@excite.com Subject: Re: Kernel compile problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:49:17 -0000 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:23:41 -0500 (EST) "O-ren-ishi-i" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I use this kernel config file (follows below): syntactical the > configuration appears ok.I get no errors here. > When compiling the kernel I get errors as soon as the modules are > being build. > I then tried /etc/make.conf (adding this line as zlib.ko is the > first module that makes problems) > WITHOUT_MODULES = zlib > > I don't find the error. > > Thanks in advance > > Ryan > > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-Release i386 SMP ( on Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Hi Ryan You have a line in your kernel config: device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da But scbus and da are commented out. I'm not sure it will entirely cure the problem. Also it's advisable to call a modified kernel something other than GENERIC and change the ident line accordingly. Follow up with the errors you get if it still won't build. -- Thanks, John. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 22:55:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B2D16A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from mail.beenic.net (mail.beenic.net [83.246.72.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B46113C45D for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wundram@beenic.net) Received: from phoenix (hnvr-4db3eda0.pool.einsundeins.de [77.179.237.160]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.beenic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EFDA44529; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:48:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Heiko Wundram (Beenic)" Organization: Beenic Networks GmbH To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:57:06 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712142357.07080.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:55:25 -0000 Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007 23:14:32 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: > As I said I did a survey of all known web clients earlier this > year that did not require a specific server - I might have even posted it > to the list. But I guess that's a challenge to some people to "prove" I > don't know what > I'm talking about. ;-) > > If you feel you must avoid "c-client" you can do it > the following way: > > 1) The webmail that comes with SquirrelMail I would be surprised if it > uses it - but, that webmail is inseparable from the SquirrelMail SMTP > server and cannot be installed separately. I didn't test it because of > that. Sorry to say this, but you do not know what you're talking about. SquirrelMail is a stand-alone webmail application, which has nothing to do and is not affiliated with any form of SMTP server. Check out SquirrelMail: http://www.squirrelmail.org/ Quoting from there: """ What is SquirrelMail? SquirrelMail is a standards-based webmail package written in PHP. It includes built-in pure PHP support for the IMAP and SMTP protocols, and all pages render in pure HTML 4.0 (with no JavaScript required) for maximum compatibility across browsers. It has very few requirements and is very easy to configure and install. SquirrelMail has all the functionality you would want from an email client, including strong MIME support, address books, and folder manipulation. """ As I explained earlier, SquirrelMail uses the PHP IMAP extension, which in turn uses cclient to access IMAP mailboxes, if you don't use the pure PHP IMAP implementation bundled with it (which I didn't know it had until rechecking their site just now; all the setups of SquirrelMail I did so far used the IMAP extension directly and there was a dependency on it earlier AFAIR). Pretty much the same thing goes for IMP (i.e., the Horde WebMail plugin); I'll save you the link to the page now, I guess you can use Google. Anyway, what you're probably referring to is the Courier webmail module (called somewhat similarly) SqWebMail (http://www.courier-mta.org/sqwebmail/), which really does not use cclient, as it accesses the mailboxes (in Maildir format) directly, but this comes at the price that the WebMail-server (and application) must have some form of read/write _filesystem access_ to all user's mailboxes being able to access the WebMail application, which generally is not what I as a responsible admin want to have; either, all mail accounts have to share the same UID/GID as the web application, or the web application requires some form of mod_suid functionality, which is not okay in either case. As I said earlier, it's a felt fact (I have no hard evidence to support this) that SquirrelMail and IMP are the most commonly used and installed WebMail applications out in the wild, and you'll find almost no mail-server administrator who hasn't heard of these two. And both of them (can) use cclient indirectly through PHP, and at least until the last time I set up a mail-server with IMP (which is around a year ago) didn't have a pure PHP implementation of the IMAP protocol. -- Heiko Wundram Product & Application Development From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 23:00:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA7816A420 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE48A13C447 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:00:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 68so1012821wra.13 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:00:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.189.9 with SMTP id m9mr1370823ybf.142.1197673207849; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:00:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i33sm12188199rng.2007.12.14.15.00.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:00:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:00:14 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071214175906.D727.A38C9147@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.44 [en] Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:00:09 -0000 > On December 14, 2007 at 04:10PM Frank Shute wrote: [ snip ] > I'm happy with sh as the system shell though; it's light weight: > > $ ls -l /bin/sh > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111028 Nov 30 00:10 /bin/sh > > $ ls -l /bin/ksh > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 681584 Oct 6 12:33 /bin/ksh > > How about giving us all a laugh and posting the results for bash ;) ~ $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 643984 Sep 12 15:51 /usr/local/bin/bash* -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 14 23:04:54 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E72016A419 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:04:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from lon-mail-4.gradwell.net (lon-mail-4.gradwell.net [193.111.201.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACCC13C43E for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:04:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bds@waywood.co.uk) Received: from 85-211-77-202.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk ([85.211.77.202] helo=[192.168.1.6] country=GB ident=bds$pop3^waywood&co^uk) by lon-mail-4.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.264) id 47630c14.17696.5f; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:04:52 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Message-ID: <47630C09.3090709@waywood.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:04:41 +0000 From: Barnaby Scott User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Mittelstaedt References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:04:54 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Barnaby Scott [mailto:bds@waywood.co.uk] >> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:22 AM >> To: cpghost >> Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt; FreeBSD Mailing List >> Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD >> >> >> It is aimed pretty squarely at budding sysadmins, not desktop users (X >> is hardly even mentioned), > > We have many FreeBSD servers at my job that do many different things > for people. Only 1 of them requires X in any form at all - and all it > uses are the X libraries to do some graphics processing. It does not > run a window manager. You can get a huge amount of useful work done > on FreeBD without having anything to do with X. > > Ted It wasn't a criticism - I just wanted to point out the sort of audience the book speaks to: people who run servers - who, as you say, have little or no need for X. I wanted to learn exactly the sort of stuff the book focused on, and loved it. Barnaby From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 00:31:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E982416A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: from smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8351613C442 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jekillen@prodigy.net) Received: (qmail 41861 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2007 00:31:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=VHT+nxt46ZtkIdxWlQiy8xbHvUAqz04PXYuFUHgUZ3CgDXArFYOLgNCYDPsqF6NOzJnpk6wBWa1EQPaToZKXfeVbg6+iDRoMrXJrr0vXSEcrjbycXGIeIrfsG2B3wMrXkGBzpwK0yXuqYnprLg03oSa2Z0H8tAv6JeaeVzyvAoA= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.7.236.228?) (jekillen@prodigy.net@75.7.236.228 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Dec 2007 00:31:14 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: kyPjtXwVM1ngQlLs1G5M1ZpaENYOdG.73xv8QNynGOZLoqaJi4fvTfIgQw848bQnICqo.UMXpQ-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <56e63e3aeb709b47fd86777b3c70fbfb@prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: FreeBSD Mailing List From: jekillen Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:32:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) Subject: re Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:31:16 -0000 Hi: I have the book and am reading it. It suits me, in that docs and man pages can be intimidating and hard to translate into some thing useful (for me). The one thing about books like this is that there are a lot more in the way of theory and tutorial practice. I could not expect anyone to give me specific instruction on the situations I encounter and have to engineer my way through, but analogous tutorial, or at least vaguely comparable descriptions can prime the inductive and deductive logic process. I work alone, as a hobbyist and spend a god awful lot on fat paperbacks. The investment is worth it to me. And the Lucas books hit the spot. I am reading about NanoBSD. That is the first time I heard of it. I started with FreeBSD 6.0 and the books up to that point, including the first Absolute BSD only covered 5x, so I am anxious to get up to current status. True, as some of the responses to this subject have said, at some point you would or should grow beyond needing to have books at hand. But with webmastering, hostmastering, learning shells, postmastering, general system admin, programming, there is A LOT of ground to cover. To cover it all fast enough and be good enough not to need a book occasionally, I think is a little in the realm of delusion. My two cents Jeff K From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 01:04:10 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9BC16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:04:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC0613C442 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:04:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J3LRl-00047E-F6 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:04:05 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id lBF144JB010232 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:04:04 GMT Received: (qmail 13889 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Dec 2007 01:03:59 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:03:59 +0000 To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20071215010359.GA13564@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20071214175906.D727.A38C9147@seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214175906.D727.A38C9147@seibercom.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RC1 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:04:05 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:04:10 -0000 On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:00:14PM -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > On December 14, 2007 at 04:10PM Frank Shute wrote: > > [ snip ] > > > I'm happy with sh as the system shell though; it's light weight: > > > > $ ls -l /bin/sh > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111028 Nov 30 00:10 /bin/sh > > > > $ ls -l /bin/ksh > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 681584 Oct 6 12:33 /bin/ksh > > > > How about giving us all a laugh and posting the results for bash ;) > > ~ $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 643984 Sep 12 15:51 /usr/local/bin/bash* > pdksh has put on weight. Used to be ~300k in the 4.* days and bash about 500k IIRC. On my machine bash is bigger than yours (newer version?): $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 676752 Nov 9 11:57 /usr/local/bin/bash Don't know why bash is writable by root but sh & ksh aren't. Seems like I've ended up with bash installed whether I like it or not: $ pkg_info -R bash-3.2.25 Information for bash-3.2.25: Required by: gnome-doc-utils-0.12.0 libgnome-2.20.1.1_1 rarian-0.6.0_1 :( -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 01:57:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6901F16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) Received: from neonpark.inter-sonic.com (neonpark.inter-sonic.com [212.247.8.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204C913C448 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@intersonic.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at inter-sonic.com Message-ID: <4763348B.7010102@intersonic.se> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:57:31 +0100 From: Per olof Ljungmark Organization: Intersonic AB User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Where does this belong? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:57:41 -0000 Hi all, Since quite a while I have had problems with {CURRENT|RELENG_7} SMP machines that lock up when accessed from a remote location over a vpn (ipsec) link and sees a ICMP_REDIRECT. A message, "kernel: rtfree: has 1 refs, will be present in logs. Stefan Lambrev opened a PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117913 that I thought dealt with this but not sure if this maybe just touches the messages, not lockups. Later, I opened another PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118044 and so far there is absolute silence. See below for the (what I believe) interesting part. Question 1: Am I the only one on the planet that sees this problem? Question 2: Could someone with enought knowledge please tell if this is a real bug or just something I cooked up myself? Thanks a lot! --per Tracing command irq21: bge0 pid 33 tid 100025 td 0xc5119880 cpustop_handler(1,e3ccf958,c0a05b10,1,0,...) at cpustop_handler+0x32 ipi_nmi_handler(1,0,0,0,13,...) at ipi_nmi_handler+0x2f trap(e3ccf964) at trap+0x30 calltrap() at calltrap+0x6 --- trap 0x13, eip = 0xc074e586, esp = 0xe3ccf9a4, ebp = 0xe3ccf9c8 --- panic(c0a9b762,c5117660,c0aa0a06,c5117660,186ae,...) at panic+0x26 _mtx_lock_spin_failed(1,19,c0aa0a32,cb,19,...) at _mtx_lock_spin_failed+0x51 _thread_lock_flags(c57c6440,10,c0aa0a32,cb,1,...) at _thread_lock_flags+0xc7 propagate_priority(c0bbceec,0,c0aa0a32,2e2,c50f2a00,...) at propagate_priority+0xe0 turnstile_wait(c50f2a00,c57c6440,0,17a,c5874678,...) at turnstile_wait+0x48c _mtx_lock_sleep(c5874678,c5119880,0,c0aaa355,41c,...) at _mtx_lock_sleep+0x15a _mtx_lock_flags(c5874678,0,c0aaa355,41c,e3ccfaf4,...) at _mtx_lock_flags+0xef rt_setgate(c5874618,cb4ee2c0,e3ccfbac,c5119880,e3ccfb18,...) at rt_setgate+0x196 rtredirect(e3ccfbbc,e3ccfbac,0,26,e3ccfb9c,...) at rtredirect+0x18e icmp_input(c6fb6500,14,246,c0b9c7c0,e3ccfc0c,...) at icmp_input+0x50f ip_input(c6fb6500,14e,800,c526a400,800,...) at ip_input+0x650 netisr_dispatch(2,c6fb6500,10,3,0,...) at netisr_dispatch+0x73 ether_demux(c526a400,c6fb6500,3,0,3,...) at ether_demux+0x1f1 ether_input(c526a400,c6fb6500,c0a6af05,bc4,c526a400,...) at ether_input+0x37f bge_intr(c526d000,0,c0a99497,471,c515e564,...) at bge_intr+0x7da ithread_loop(c5271160,e3ccfd38,c0a9920b,2ea,c52512a8,...) at ithread_loop+0x1b5 fork_exit(c0732ea0,c5271160,e3ccfd38) at fork_exit+0xb8 fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8 --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xe3ccfd70, ebp = 0 --- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 02:06:41 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51916A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:06:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359CC13C45A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup135.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBF25pD7012678 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:06:03 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBF25iwD002361; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:05:46 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBF25aHl002360; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:05:36 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:05:35 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Barnaby Scott Message-ID: <20071215020535.GE2062@kobe.laptop> References: <20071214115752.20d34fae@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <47629FA9.9020609@waywood.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47629FA9.9020609@waywood.co.uk> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: cpghost , FreeBSD Mailing List , Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:06:41 -0000 On 2007-12-14 15:22, Barnaby Scott wrote: > I have just finished it and I would say it does exactly what what Ted > and cpghost suggests it should - there are plenty of sections where > the author introduces what can be done with a particular tool or part > of the OS, and suggests to the reader to investigate further options > in the approriate manuals. It also quite openly acknowledges that > there is plenty that is not covered at all. > > As someone with very limited experience (I'm not sure if I still > classify as a *complete* newbie) I found the book an excellent and > even entertaining read, which serves it purpose extremely well: to > give an overview and introduction, but with enough detail in relevant > places to be able to get real, useful stuff done. Michael has a writing style which I like a lot, but I haven't had a chance to read the second version yet. I've read the first version cover to back, however, and it was written in a very entertaining, elegant style. Judging from my experience with the first edition, I expect nothing less than what you just described :) - Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 02:14:42 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304EE16A41B for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9014713C469 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup135.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBF2DwMH012914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:14:14 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBF2Dr6n002449; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:13:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBF2DnS4002448; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:13:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:13:49 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Frank Shute Message-ID: <20071215021349.GF2062@kobe.laptop> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Mike Jeays , FreeBSD Questions Subject: pdksh vs. mksh info [was: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:14:42 -0000 On 2007-12-14 21:10, Frank Shute wrote: > I used bash for an interactive shell for about 5 years until I > discovered the goodness of pdksh. About half the size, statically > linked, not full of bugs and better editing features. Plus it's not > GPL. Hi Frank, Now that you mention pdksh, have you tried mksh (in Ports too)? I've installed it and successfully run moderately large ksh scripts (like the webrev(1) utility of OpenSolaris), and it is about an order of magnitude smaller than pdksh here: % keramida@kobe:/usr/local/bin$ ls -ld mksh bash ksh % -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 684699 Dec 9 19:51 bash % -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 2390645 Aug 31 17:07 ksh % -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 236202 Dec 9 18:34 mksh % keramida@kobe:/usr/local/bin$ ldd mksh bash ksh % mksh: % libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280ae000) % bash: % libncurses.so.7 => /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x28101000) % libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x28144000) % libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28156000) % libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2824b000) % ldd: ksh: not a dynamic executable % keramida@kobe:/usr/local/bin$ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 01:28:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C51F16A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBC513C457 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1206543rvb.43 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:28:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=j+3nOc9HA2fUtaqxnlzEbpkE8Eupn2ZKMbZPg9hqMbI=; b=hlwU5J1f/DVWvOSNWLKvbOfWL852AZugkBVECgFlQ/YTYlHCgpR9GhFZcc6jcyLW6osDwXPMF8uIC5FV+hXjrUu9V5jt/OD/OkXtN6ndUFTZXDBj5wVBYsmNduBu4EWdX51gOwmfwXx0FcBmKo/vgbPcl+I1J5AWQbqG+v4tdso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s9A00BzNtTxgzGOHhdHG0/u0GsbM2YBSCLVjI37CrwNhBh3CbxAtBHbp2ADtlHmlkwt9X2de47zRxW95QHPy5aTMmlAfxqzPt2tTYuSkot7+SecjXfm9AAsz8w3Q6RfXYjZSse+p29KoQbqLtvlJQIPABQzJ2CULlpKlI9QMM6A= Received: by 10.141.15.19 with SMTP id s19mr2382744rvi.75.1197682130363; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.70.2 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:28:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <64c038660712141728h7fe4d10bt2fbe148533f6707e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:28:50 -0700 From: Modulok To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071214164358.5D01A13C461@mx1.freebsd.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:16:55 +0000 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, WD@us-webmasters.com, Timur@freebsd.org, remko@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:28:51 -0000 On 12/14/07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > This happens from time to time with the FreeBSD ports system, and > there isn't any way to avoid it. Most open source software > today is written to depend on other open source software > packages. People don't like spending programming time > reinventing the wheel. As a result you have a large dependency > list which has deep roots as the dependent programs themselves > have even more dependencies. If just one single program in > that mess gets updated it will affect entire trees and many > other programs. > Which is ever so irritating... In 40 years of lessons learned from the school of hard knocks in relation to the design and evolution of both programming languages and the software designs they implement, one truth has emerged: data hiding increases the robustness of a program. Functions hide data, classes hide data, namespaces hide data, the very concept of scope, hides data. Yet, when we pull back and look at a slightly larger picture of the interactions of programs themselves, we fail short of carrying this idea through to a higher level. Package X depends on package Y, but package Y depends on package Z, but package Z cannot be installed because of a name conflict with package W. Update program X and you could break what appears to be an un-related program J. Tough luck. Code re-use is a good thing. Intricate, far-reaching dependencies are not. While package managers attempt to mitigate the underlying issue, using code re-use as an excuse for the fragility of a system design, is unfortunate. I do not pretend to have all of the answers, but I feel that current state of things could be much improved. That said, I think the volunteers, such as the package maintainers, are doing an excellent job within the confines of the system they are bound to. Sorry if this is off topic in relation to the samba issue, but one of the replies hit a sore spot of mine. I had to spill a few lines of my own. -Modulok- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 02:18:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CEA16A476 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2163D13C4D3 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (dialup135.ach.sch.gr [81.186.70.135]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id lBF2HWbj013043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:17:49 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lBF2HU2n002522; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:17:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id lBF2HPQH002521; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:17:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:17:25 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20071215021725.GG2062@kobe.laptop> References: <20071214224421.GA57010@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214224421.GA57010@thought.org> X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.949, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.45, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GOOD boook! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:18:02 -0000 On 2007-12-14 14:44, Gary Kline wrote: > Many thank to whomever recommended SED AND AWK a few weeks ago. > Was it you, Giorgos? Not really, no. At least, my `sent-mail' folder didn't come up with any matches. But it's a jewel of a book, you're right about that... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 02:59:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8557E16A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bartosz@fabianowski.eu) Received: from dd15624.kasserver.com (dd15624.kasserver.com [85.13.136.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E25E13C4D5 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bartosz@fabianowski.eu) Received: from takahe.local (84-203-33-225.mysmart.ie [84.203.33.225]) by dd15624.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108821817325A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:32:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47633CC9.802@fabianowski.eu> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:32:41 +0000 From: Bartosz Fabianowski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: 20071210130522.P48709@shell.xecu.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD Wacom driver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:59:02 -0000 Currently, only serial tablets are officially supported under FreeBSD. However, I have written a driver for the Cintiq 21UX a couple of months ago and am slowly extending it to cover other models. If you are interested in testing the driver with your tablet, let me know: * The exact tablet model you have (best send me the USB product ID that "usbdevs -v" spits out) * The FreeBSD version you are running * The platform you are running on If you are not interested in testing an under-development driver, that's fine, of course, but may mean you'll have to wait longer until your tablet is supported. I have to rely on volunteers for testing as I only have access to two tablets myself. - Bartosz From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 03:35:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC2516A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0910.google.com (rv-out-0910.google.com [209.85.198.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C6113C469 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id l15so1247238rvb.43 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=f2ys7gQQU9XOAV1qPhzfFSNGq5BCpKJxZAKUoCOq88A=; b=EdLrN4EYkLS5enVchusIDAqR0ITnbJrwiePjCzA5w+ojsX1zic6NmroqJ+r0C9oybLb0NjN1hRBuRl2zKQyf8CNC9eweGJtsvHylobI9bwBTSqbaTzrADOJdAMGECjXn90ZOkK1SZ9UqvjZUxj9XJMUs8p/fWelmCXz2F0iD2ew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V1yoSImjcnTznRvHuOpo4p5VVnlhFiJhO4a2HzUynj9QLAWVZzqCvI6zLMcmJpYIZ0+PP8R7wjE+GwB5HVlSes515Q2YBgXseE7JNzPVRGtpeZRFYelf9cwXCWHtBa4G+ZtYP0jMPTcJFoWOxHypgkMbgabjbK2huup+RgDAWRA= Received: by 10.141.86.14 with SMTP id o14mr755865rvl.148.1197689722918; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.169.13 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540712141935j387d3cffo56d5aca0ba1865a4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:35:22 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47618AF4.5000208@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:35:23 -0000 On Dec 13, 2007 10:06 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > The developer is very adamant about writing dovecot strictly to > > the letter of the IMAP specification. He's also discovered many > > of the popular clients have bugs, and are unable to work (or at > > least have issues) with an IMAP server that goes purely by the rules. > > > > He refused to "break" his software to work around bugs on the > > client side, but ultimately compromised by writing in > > work-arounds that you can enable in the config file. You can > > enable them all if you like. > > > > Which is a really dumb attitude since the dovecot developer was > not the author of the IMAP standard and probably was in diapers > when the standard was first written: I agree with your sentiment that, "who can use a server that no client can connect to?" However, that being said, why write a standard you don't intend to adhere too? It's a crying shame that folks write standards for things like IMAP and e-mail client providers don't follow them. I wished more people were like this fellow who writes Dovecot! If more people were strict about server interfaces, then perhaps more vendors would write their code to the standard instead of those who write the standards enabling poor compliance by "dumbing" down their servers. Ok, I'm off my soap box. Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 04:24:22 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E00616A421 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:24:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E660A13C448 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBF4OBVr047337; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:24:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Heiko Wundram \(Beenic\)" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:25:16 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <200712142357.07080.wundram@beenic.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:24:22 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Heiko Wundram (Beenic) [mailto:wundram@beenic.net] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 2:57 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > Am Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007 23:14:32 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: > > As I said I did a survey of all known web clients earlier this > > year that did not require a specific server - I might have even > posted it > > to the list. But I guess that's a challenge to some people to "prove" I > > don't know what > > I'm talking about. ;-) > > > > If you feel you must avoid "c-client" you can do it > > the following way: > > > > 1) The webmail that comes with SquirrelMail I would be surprised if it > > uses it - but, that webmail is inseparable from the SquirrelMail SMTP > > server and cannot be installed separately. I didn't test it because of > > that. > > Sorry to say this, but you do not know what you're talking about. > SquirrelMail > is a stand-alone webmail application, which has nothing to do and is not > affiliated with any form of SMTP server. > I'm glad to know that. I'll have to take a look at it then. > > Anyway, what you're probably referring to is the Courier webmail module > (called somewhat similarly) SqWebMail > (http://www.courier-mta.org/sqwebmail/), which really does not > use cclient, > as it accesses the mailboxes (in Maildir format) directly, but > this comes at > the price that the WebMail-server (and application) must have > some form of > read/write _filesystem access_ to all user's mailboxes being able > to access > the WebMail application, which generally is not what I as a > responsible admin > want to have; either, all mail accounts have to share the same > UID/GID as the > web application, or the web application requires some form of mod_suid > functionality, which is not okay in either case. > It is dangerous to put any webmail application on a mailserver for a couple reasons. First it is possible for users of the app (assuming the app has the ability to save mail) to overflow directories on the mailserver. However more seriously, any www application is always subject to security issues - a hole in the application, even if the apache version your using is secure - allows spammers to relay through your mailserver. Mailservers are of course, the most desired of spam relays. > As I said earlier, it's a felt fact (I have no hard evidence to > support this) > that SquirrelMail and IMP are the most commonly used and > installed WebMail > applications out in the wild, and you'll find almost no mail-server > administrator who hasn't heard of these two. And both of them (can) use > cclient indirectly through PHP, and at least until the last time > I set up a > mail-server with IMP (which is around a year ago) didn't have a pure PHP > implementation of the IMAP protocol. > I think OpenWebmail is probably equal or surpassing one of those. In terms of features, OpenWebmail has all the other webmail apps out there beaten - except for IMP, and possibly squirrelmail, but I don't know enough about squirrelmail to rate it. In the last analysis, the most users will gravitate towards the webmail app that has the most features. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 04:39:17 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6CF16A419; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:39:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20EE13C45D; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:39:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBF4dENM047428; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:39:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Modulok" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:40:20 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <64c038660712141728h7fe4d10bt2fbe148533f6707e@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:43:40 +0000 Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, WD@us-webmasters.com, Timur@freebsd.org, remko@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:39:17 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Modulok [mailto:modulok@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:29 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: WD@us-webmasters.com; samba@lists.samba.org; remko@freebsd.org; > Timur@freebsd.org; FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote > Code Execution... > > > > Which is ever so irritating... > > In 40 years of lessons learned from the school of hard knocks in > relation to the design and evolution of both programming languages and > the software designs they implement, one truth has emerged: data > hiding increases the robustness of a program. Functions hide data, > classes hide data, namespaces hide data, the very concept of scope, > hides data. Yet, when we pull back and look at a slightly larger > picture of the interactions of programs themselves, we fail short of > carrying this idea through to a higher level. Package X depends on > package Y, but package Y depends on package Z, but package Z cannot be > installed because of a name conflict with package W. Update program X > and you could break what appears to be an un-related program J. Tough > luck. > > Code re-use is a good thing. Intricate, far-reaching dependencies are > not. While package managers attempt to mitigate the underlying issue, > using code re-use as an excuse for the fragility of a system design, > is unfortunate. I do not pretend to have all of the answers, but I > feel that current state of things could be much improved. The rot started years ago when Sun and others introduced the concept of dynamically loaded libraries. Time was that everything was statically compiled. An update to a library file would break nothing. But at the time, they had a problem - limited ram - available. This solved it with the tradeoff that updating would require recompiling a lot of stuff. Fast forward to today, when 2-4GB of RAM in a computer is standard. There's no penalty to statically linking all your libraries into a binary that isn't going to see more than 2-3 simultaneous instances in memory. But the thinking is still ossified back in the 80's as by default every program you build will dynalink. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 04:44:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4F916A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F7D13C46E for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBF4iIsH047490; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:44:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Andrew Falanga" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:45:23 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <340a29540712141935j387d3cffo56d5aca0ba1865a4@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:44:20 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Falanga > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:35 PM > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > Cc: Rob; FreeBSD Questions > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > On Dec 13, 2007 10:06 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > The developer is very adamant about writing dovecot strictly to > > > the letter of the IMAP specification. He's also discovered many > > > of the popular clients have bugs, and are unable to work (or at > > > least have issues) with an IMAP server that goes purely by the rules. > > > > > > He refused to "break" his software to work around bugs on the > > > client side, but ultimately compromised by writing in > > > work-arounds that you can enable in the config file. You can > > > enable them all if you like. > > > > > > > Which is a really dumb attitude since the dovecot developer was > > not the author of the IMAP standard and probably was in diapers > > when the standard was first written: > > > I agree with your sentiment that, "who can use a server that no client can > connect to?" However, that being said, why write a standard you don't > intend to adhere too? It's a crying shame that folks write standards for > things like IMAP and e-mail client providers don't follow them. I wished > more people were like this fellow who writes Dovecot! If more people were > strict about server interfaces, then perhaps more vendors would > write their > code to the standard instead of those who write the standards > enabling poor > compliance by "dumbing" down their servers. > It's a chicken and egg problem. There's nothing wrong with writing an extremely strict standard. The issue is the implementation. If your server implementation is so strict that most clients have difficulty, then users will find something else and your standard will end up on the dustbin. It's better to start out with a strict standard and a forgiving server implementation, then as it falls into mainstream use, work with the client developers to correct their stuff. We don't want to end up like Microsoft - which writes very lax and contradictory standards, then makes up strict implementations. Then every new release of their stuff breaks things. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 04:49:21 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E7216A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E322013C43E for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id lBF4nJoW047532; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:49:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "jekillen" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:50:24 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <56e63e3aeb709b47fd86777b3c70fbfb@prodigy.net> Cc: Subject: RE: re Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:49:21 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of jekillen > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:33 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: re Absolute FreeBSD > > > Hi: > I have the book and am reading it. It suits me, in that docs and > man pages can be intimidating and hard to translate into some > thing useful (for me). The one thing about books like this is > that there are a lot more in the way of theory and tutorial > practice. I could not expect anyone to give me specific > instruction on the situations I encounter and have to engineer > my way through, but analogous tutorial, or at least vaguely > comparable descriptions can prime the inductive and deductive > logic process. I work alone, as a hobbyist and spend a god awful > lot on fat paperbacks. The investment is worth it to me. And > the Lucas books hit the spot. I am reading about NanoBSD. > That is the first time I heard of it. I started with FreeBSD 6.0 > and the books up to that point, including the first Absolute > BSD only covered 5x, so I am anxious to get up to current > status. True, as some of the responses to this subject have > said, at some point you would or should grow beyond needing > to have books at hand. But with webmastering, hostmastering, > learning shells, postmastering, general system admin, programming, > there is A LOT of ground to cover. To cover it all fast enough and > be good enough not to need a book occasionally, I think is a little in > the realm of delusion. Your always going to need a book - the difference is that as you get more and more experienced, the books you need end up being the man pages, info documents, other documentation the developer sees fit to write, postings on mailing lists and newsgroups, articles, and of course, the source itself. Ted No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 11:29 AM From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 06:33:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3710316A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:33:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com [65.32.5.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF57413C458 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:32:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freysman@comcast.net) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (c-98-199-18-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net [98.199.18.87]) by comcast-smtp-02.tampflrdc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id lBF6Wt4p006893 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:32:56 -0500 (EST) From: David J Brooks Organization: KC5WNK To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:32:57 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: +\{75whsIB]=i--WqkV^U>!y`<~%(FUd, DQs, &e1yLt==9%It?7#?n>%Splqb, =?utf-8?q?=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=09lDIEu=25W?= =?utf-8?q?sB7o+6k2n=606Q5Fl?=, vJei{$-.KlHPHu/.~VuE=C[}lQmL}>V1t\yTn2iTwCfM`% MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200712150032.58585.freysman@comcast.net> X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Subject: Re: Absolute FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:33:00 -0000 On Thursday 13 December 2007 11:36:35 pm Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > If you bought and grokked the first book and have been using > FreeBSD ever since, do you really need a book of any kind at > this point? Don't you have enough experience under your > belt to get by without a book? > > The operating system books - be it FreeBSD, Linux or Windows, > serve an important function of helping people go from zero to > 60 in getting up and going with their operating system of > choice. But eventually you are going to outgrow them. There > are always lots more people at 0 so the authors of these > books will never starve, but you need to eventually strike > out on your own. Well, to an extent, yes. My copy of The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide came with discs for FreeBSD 4.2. I read it cover to cover at the time and found it very helpful. But now, even when it is largely obsolete, I still find myself referencing it from time to time. Though I'll admit, it resides on a shelf in the smallest room in the house, where it primarily serves as impromptu light reading material. ;) David -- This message has been foretold by Nostradamus. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 06:37:25 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5494316A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:37:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: from web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.49.117]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF89D13C45A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrick_dkt@yahoo.com.hk) Received: (qmail 98888 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Dec 2007 06:37:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.hk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KAYlJDSW7/Ai/b2xnWccUfidqPNx+0Q8STLtQB3Tuyaq3es9GPX/S60im/UW7aEU4BwPoOXGv6WIocDQduJBm0lJNelkZWv1+20wuCG9sEN3aMYKzd4Qq5lM4JtgR7C4fIGzScPxvec8W0ZEaCR8igrKvTGwwkZiQOp4+zxXc3M=; X-YMail-OSG: I5gtn3wVM1kEv3Qa3uJGm79nOpmS5iUIh4ZQcoSzWEgYpQKH1iv78oCfLY_asfFSLUT5hld2RzdqK_EviMNNl3QGNM634nDgi7G0zaOgfW4ENSgj7rMy_WR_LXgsjhxV Received: from [61.15.61.52] by web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:37:23 PST Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:37:23 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Dung To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <885271.78579.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Bash script to find out the summary of user memory usage [not working] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:37:25 -0000 Hello, any idea about why below script is not working? The final sum is empty.. #!/usr/local/bin/bash for user in `ps -A -o user | sort | uniq | tail +2` do echo "user: $user" ps aux -U $user | tail +2 | while read line do mem=`echo $line | awk {'print $4'}` echo "mem: $mem" TMPSUMMEM=`awk -v x=$mem -v y=$TMPSUMMEM 'BEGIN{printf "%.2f\n",x+y}'` echo "summem: $TMPSUMMEM" done echo "finalsummem: $SUMMEM" donefreebsd-questions@freebsd.org.hk ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 06:59:51 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8B716A41A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (dsl231-043-140.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.43.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B332113C457 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: from tao.thought.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBF6xnOQ059630 for ; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.13.8/8.13.1/Submit) id lBF6xnmT059629 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:59:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:59:49 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20071215065949.GA59601@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 21 of service to the Unix community. Cc: Subject: Is it safe yet! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:59:51 -0000 People, I'd like to do a complete upgrade to see if I can fix whatever is broken with evolution. I'm considerned about the MGA driver NOT having been backed up to what worked. My xf86-video-mga is back-patched to v 1.4.7, IIRC Everything works correcctly. But looking at the newest version of xf86-video-mga (and mga-new) it looks like both ports are what they were. Advice, please... . gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 10:00:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E858216A46B; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mx.critical.ch (mx.critical.ch [62.2.45.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E29A13C46A; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tardis.home.critical.ch (77-57-39-107.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.39.107]) by mx.critical.ch (8.13.8/8.13.8/critical-1.0) with SMTP id lBF9RTtp099095; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:27:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ehaupt@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:27:30 +0100 From: Emanuel Haupt To: cpghost Message-Id: <20071215102730.fb2d6a5d.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20071214211657.GA24213@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20071214211657.GA24213@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mx.critical.ch [62.2.45.171]); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:27:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/5128/Sat Dec 15 09:27:34 2007 on milkyway.critical.ch X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, barner@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: devel/boost -- where is tools/build/v2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:00:08 -0000 > I'm trying to walk through the tutorial of Boost.Python > (the devel/boost-python port)... and unless I'm running > out of coffe right now, it seems as if the boost port > is not fully installed/specified! > > Isn't boost supposed to come with a tools/build/v2 > directory? Where is it? Unless you built devel/boost with NOPORTDOCS defined it should be installed under: /usr/local/share/doc/boost/tools/build/v2 Emanuel From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 11:44:15 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 881D116A41B for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468A513C4E7 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:44:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so453723anc.13 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.194.17 with SMTP id r17mr9394522anf.92.1197719054302; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h15sm18237184wxd.2007.12.15.03.44.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:44:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:44:22 -0500 From: Gerard To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: References: <200712142357.07080.wundram@beenic.net> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071215064304.2209.A38C9147@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.44 [en] Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:44:15 -0000 > On December 14, 2007 at 11:25PM Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [ snip ] > It is dangerous to put any webmail application on a mailserver > for a couple reasons. First it is possible for users of the > app (assuming the app has the ability to save mail) to overflow > directories on the mailserver. However more seriously, any > www application is always subject to security issues - a hole in > the application, even if the apache version your using is secure - > allows spammers to relay through your mailserver. Mailservers are > of course, the most desired of spam relays. If you are using Postfix, placing the following in the 'main.cf' file can significantly reduce the potential regarding relaying from Apache. Of course, insure that the group is correct. authorized_submit_users = !www, static:all -- Gerard From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 11:57:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5267A16A421 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F8813C458 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so454403anc.13 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.44.4 with SMTP id r4mr9380210anr.119.1197719820127; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.102? ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r28sm1158299ele.2007.12.15.03.56.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:56:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:57:09 -0500 From: Gerard Seibert To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: Seibercom.net In-Reply-To: <20071215010359.GA13564@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20071214175906.D727.A38C9147@seibercom.net> <20071215010359.GA13564@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Message-Id: <20071215065435.741B.A38C9147@seibercom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.44 [en] Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:57:01 -0000 > On December 14, 2007 at 08:03PM Frank Shute wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:00:14PM -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > > > On December 14, 2007 at 04:10PM Frank Shute wrote: > > > > [ snip ] > > > > > I'm happy with sh as the system shell though; it's light weight: > > > > > > $ ls -l /bin/sh > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111028 Nov 30 00:10 /bin/sh ~ $ ls -l /bin/sh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111788 Oct 5 13:55 /bin/sh* > > > $ ls -l /bin/ksh > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 681584 Oct 6 12:33 /bin/ksh > > > > > > How about giving us all a laugh and posting the results for bash ;) > > > > ~ $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 643984 Sep 12 15:51 /usr/local/bin/bash* > > > > pdksh has put on weight. Used to be ~300k in the 4.* days and bash > about 500k IIRC. On my machine bash is bigger than yours (newer version?): ~ $ bash --version bash --version GNU bash, version 3.2.25(0)-release (i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 676752 Nov 9 11:57 /usr/local/bin/bash > > Don't know why bash is writable by root but sh & ksh aren't. > > Seems like I've ended up with bash installed whether I like it or not: > > $ pkg_info -R bash-3.2.25 > Information for bash-3.2.25: > > Required by: > gnome-doc-utils-0.12.0 > libgnome-2.20.1.1_1 > rarian-0.6.0_1 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 12:35:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437F616A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:35:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F01F13C45D for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:35:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Dec 2007 12:35:13 -0000 Received: from ip176-173-59-62.adsl.versatel.nl (EHLO Rena.FStaals.net) [62.59.173.176] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 15 Dec 2007 13:35:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #25365336 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19nw/cslLZni4NqMQIvSDB6puDRN4s9inByBjyZay DcHQB4+tJNT65a Message-ID: <4763C9B4.4010902@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:33:56 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: Subject: Distributing directory over multiple discs ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:35:16 -0000 Since one of my discs is filling up rather quickly (Say disc A ) while an other one stays quite empty (say disc B ) I would like to distribute the content of a directory on disc A over both A and B. I know I can simply move some of the files over to a sperate directory on disc B but is is possible to somehow merge the 2 ? So for example if I would do an ls in discA/dir I would also see the files that are stored on discB/an/other/dir ? And off-course if this is possible how can I acchieve something like that Regards, -- -Frank Staals From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 13:25:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822C516A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from wjv.com (fl-65-40-24-38.sta.embarqhsd.net [65.40.24.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2992713C459 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:25:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: from bilver.wjv.com (localhost.wjv.com [127.0.0.1]) by wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id lBFDPB5L050266 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:25:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv@bilver.wjv.com) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.14.1/8.13.1/Submit) id lBFDP6S4050265 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:25:06 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 08:25:06 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071215132506.GA49938@wjv.com> References: <20071214223349.8FC0A16A4CA@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071214223349.8FC0A16A4CA@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park ReplyTo: bv@wjv.com Subject: ksh - was: Re: csh progermming considered harmful X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bv@wjv.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:25:13 -0000 Shakespeare wrote plays and sonnets which will last an eternity, but on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 22:33 , freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org wrote these truly forgetable lines: > Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:10:08 +0000 > From: "Frank Shute" > Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. > To: Mike Jeays > Cc: FreeBSD Questions > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:12:32PM -0500, Mike Jeays wrote: > > On December 13, 2007 08:05:42 pm Chad Perrin wrote: > > > I ran across this today: [much deleted - wjv] > > Bash has all the features one is likely to need for > > interactive use as well, and one could make a good case for it being > > the 'standard' shell now. > > Standard shell for what? Linux maybe but not FreeBSD or any of the > other BSDs for that matter. It being GPL guarantees that quite apart > from it general suckiness. > > I used bash for an interactive shell for about 5 years until I > discovered the goodness of pdksh. About half the size, statically > linked, not full of bugs and better editing features. Plus it's not > GPL. > > I tried replacing /bin/bash with /bin/ksh on a Linux system and it > almost completely broke it. Suggests the Linux folks can't write > boot scripts without bashisms. > > I'm tempted to try doing the same on FreeBSD (replace sh with pdksh) > just for the hell of it and see what happens. I tried the pdksh once and didn't like it. I went back to the genuine ksh [from AT&T] that I had been using for years, and I have it on all the *n*x systems I mainatain. Even though it's bigger then the pdksh [and I always compile my shells statically just in case] I'd be lost without it. Bill -- Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 13:54:14 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7FC16A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A0B13C442 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J3XSz-0005d9-IQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:09 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id lBFDs8iX016209 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:09 GMT Received: (qmail 17027 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Dec 2007 13:54:03 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:03 +0000 To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20071215135403.GA16763@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20071214010542.GA19553@demeter.hydra> <200712132012.32729.mike.jeays@rogers.com> <20071214211008.GA12935@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20071215021349.GF2062@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071215021349.GF2062@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RC1 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: pdksh vs. mksh info [was: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful.] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:14 -0000 On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 04:13:49AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2007-12-14 21:10, Frank Shute wrote: > > I used bash for an interactive shell for about 5 years until I > > discovered the goodness of pdksh. About half the size, statically > > linked, not full of bugs and better editing features. Plus it's not > > GPL. > > Hi Frank, > > Now that you mention pdksh, have you tried mksh (in Ports too)? No I haven't but I'll certainly give it a look. I've just upgraded my window manager: blackbox -> fluxbox, so I might aswell upgrade my shell ;) > > I've installed it and successfully run moderately large ksh scripts > (like the webrev(1) utility of OpenSolaris), and it is about an order of > magnitude smaller than pdksh here: Sounds good, thanks for the tip Giorgos. > > % keramida@kobe:/usr/local/bin$ ls -ld mksh bash ksh > % -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 684699 Dec 9 19:51 bash > % -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 2390645 Aug 31 17:07 ksh > % -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 236202 Dec 9 18:34 mksh Wow. My pdksh is much smaller: $ ls -ld /usr/local/bin/ksh -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 681584 Jan 23 2007 /usr/local/bin/ksh $ pkg_info -W /usr/local/bin/ksh /usr/local/bin/ksh was installed by package pdksh-5.2.14p2_2 It's also statically compiled. I wonder what is bloating yours so much. Was it built with debugging code or something? > % keramida@kobe:/usr/local/bin$ ldd mksh bash ksh > % mksh: > % libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280ae000) > % bash: > % libncurses.so.7 => /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x28101000) > % libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x28144000) > % libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28156000) > % libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2824b000) > % ldd: ksh: not a dynamic executable > % keramida@kobe:/usr/local/bin$ -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 13:54:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4079716A47B; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B2413C45B; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99726E07DA; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:54:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:54:16 +0100 From: cpghost To: Emanuel Haupt Message-ID: <20071215135415.GA56791@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20071214211657.GA24213@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <20071215102730.fb2d6a5d.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071215102730.fb2d6a5d.ehaupt@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, barner@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: devel/boost -- where is tools/build/v2? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:19 -0000 On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 10:27:30AM +0100, Emanuel Haupt wrote: > > I'm trying to walk through the tutorial of Boost.Python > > (the devel/boost-python port)... and unless I'm running > > out of coffe right now, it seems as if the boost port > > is not fully installed/specified! > > > > Isn't boost supposed to come with a tools/build/v2 > > directory? Where is it? > > Unless you built devel/boost with NOPORTDOCS defined it should be > installed under: > > /usr/local/share/doc/boost/tools/build/v2 > > Emanuel Hmm... no, sorry, it's not: 1. I didn't set NOPORTDOCS in /etc/make.conf, yet there's nothing there besides some html files. 2. /usr/ports/devel/boost-python/work/boost_1_34_1/tools/build/v2/tools for example contains plenty of .jam files that are needed by bjam to run. Those are *not* copied over. A few html files are put in doc/, but not the real stuff (which belongs elsewhere, see 3.). 3. Those files are NOT doc files: they are needed by bjam. Their "right" place should be something like, say, /usr/local/lib/boost/tools/... Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 13:54:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227616A473 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7979413C467 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J3XTW-0005fQ-P5 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:42 +0000 Received: from esperance.zetnet.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with SMTP id lBFDsgWf016960 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:42 GMT Received: (qmail 17034 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Dec 2007 13:54:37 -0000 From: "Frank Shute" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:37 +0000 To: Gerard Seibert Message-ID: <20071215135437.GB16763@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20071214175906.D727.A38C9147@seibercom.net> <20071215010359.GA13564@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20071215065435.741B.A38C9147@seibercom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071215065435.741B.A38C9147@seibercom.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RC1 i386 X-Organisation: 'Esperance Linux' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:42 +0000 (GMT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apparently, csh programming is considered harmful. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:54:44 -0000 On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 06:57:09AM -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > On December 14, 2007 at 08:03PM Frank Shute wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:00:14PM -0500, Gerard Seibert wrote: > > > > > > > On December 14, 2007 at 04:10PM Frank Shute wrote: > > > > > > [ snip ] > > > > > > > I'm happy with sh as the system shell though; it's light weight: > > > > > > > > $ ls -l /bin/sh > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111028 Nov 30 00:10 /bin/sh > > ~ $ ls -l /bin/sh > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 111788 Oct 5 13:55 /bin/sh* I can understand why the size of sh might be different. Different patch levels. (Built almost 2 months apart). > > > > > > $ ls -l /bin/ksh > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 681584 Oct 6 12:33 /bin/ksh > > > > > > > > How about giving us all a laugh and posting the results for bash ;) > > > > > > ~ $ ls -l /usr/local/bin/bash > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 643984 Sep 12 15:51 /usr/local/bin/bash* > > > > > > > pdksh has put on weight. Used to be ~300k in the 4.* days and bash > > about 500k IIRC. On my machine bash is bigger than yours (newer version?): > > ~ $ bash --version > bash --version > GNU bash, version 3.2.25(0)-release (i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) > Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Same as mine: $ bash --version GNU bash, version 3.2.25(0)-release (i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc. I'm not too sure why my bash is different in size. I guess it sucked in slightly different code when built due to our base systems being the 2 months apart. [snip] -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 14:11:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B5416A41A for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:11:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from mail.asahi-net.or.jp (mail2.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F304A13C4CC for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) Received: from asahi-net.jp (b150056.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [202.213.150.56]) by mail.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1A14DA56; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:11:14 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:11:14 +0900 From: Watanabe Kazuhiro To: freebsd-questions In-Reply-To: <4762FD82.8070108@monkeybrains.net> References: <4762FD82.8070108@monkeybrains.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.7 Emacs/20.7 (i386--freebsd) MULE/4.1 (AOI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <20071215141114.8D1A14DA56@mail.asahi-net.or.jp> Cc: Rudy Subject: Re: How do I use my USB microphone and motherboard audio out? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:11:16 -0000 At Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:02:42 -0800, Rudy wrote: > Watanabe Kazuhiro wrote: > > At Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:16:45 -0800, > > Rudy wrote: > >> Watanabe Kazuhiro wrote: > >>> Hi. > >>> > >>> At Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0800, > >>> Rudy wrote: > >>>>> After reading some more man pages, I am still stumped but can better > >>>>> phrase my question: > >>>>> how do I set dsp0.0 as the default OUPUT and dsp1.1 as the default INPUT? > >> ... > >> > >>> Audacity will be able to specify a different dsp device for the > >>> recording and playback device via the "Audacity Preferences" panel > >>> ("Edit" -> "Preferences" -> "Audio I/O"); e.g. /dev/dsp0 for playback, > >>> and /dev/dsp1 for recording. > >>> > >>> Have you tried such configulation? > >>> --- > >>> Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) > >> No luck. I only see '/dev/dsp'. It seems that dsp likes to automatically do stuff, but is not > >> smart enough to always do the right thing. > > > > OK. My understanding is: > > > > * There is /dev/dsp0 which corresponds to pcm0 (snd_hda). > > > > * /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp0 are the same. e.g.: > > > > $ ls -l /dev/dsp /dev/dsp0 > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 83 Dec 14 20:55 /dev/dsp > > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 83 Dec 14 20:55 /dev/dsp0 > > $ > > > > * There is no /dev/dsp1. But there is /dev/dsp1.1 which corresponds > > to pcm1 (snd_uaudio). > > > > If these are correct, will you try to make a symlink /dev/dsp1 which > > points to /dev/dsp1.1 via devfs.conf(5)? i.e. Add the following line > > to /etc/devfs.conf and then reboot the system: > > > > link dsp1.1 dsp1 > > > > I entered these lines: > > # attempt to override the dsp0 input with the dsp1 input... doesn't work > link dsp1.1 dsp0.1 > # this didn't do anything > link dsp1.1 dsp1 > # this works... wanted to make sure I could do something. :) > link dsp1.1 microphone > > and ran > /etc/rc.d/devfs restart > > # ll /dev/ | grep dsp > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 121 Dec 14 13:55 /dev/dsp0.0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 122 Dec 14 09:33 /dev/dsp0.1 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 126 Dec 14 09:33 /dev/dsp0.2 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 145 Dec 14 09:31 /dev/dsp1.0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 144 Dec 14 09:31 /dev/dsp1.1 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Dec 14 13:52 /dev/microphone -> dsp1.1 > > # cat /dev/sndstat > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) > Installed devices: > pcm0: at memory 0xfe024000 irq 21 kld snd_hda > [20071129_0050] [MPSAFE] (1p:2v/1r:1v channels duplex default) > pcm1: at ? kld snd_uaudio [GIANT] (0p:0v/1r:1v channels) > mode 1:(input) 1ch, 16/16bit, pcm, 8000,11025,22050,44100,48000Hz > > ######### pcm0 is the motherboard sound/mic/lineout/etc > ######### pcm1 is the usb mircophone > > # cd /dev > # ln -s dsp1.1 dsp0.111 > # ln -s dsp1.1 dsp0.1 > # ll dsp* > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 121 Dec 14 14:01 dsp0.0 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Dec 14 14:01 dsp0.111 -> dsp1.1 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 126 Dec 14 09:33 dsp0.2 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 149 Dec 14 09:31 dsp1.0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 0, 144 Dec 14 09:31 dsp1.1 > > I can't seem to force the dsp1.1 to be the dsp0.1 > > :( Hmm... I don't know what to do any more. Sorry. As a last proposal, how about audacity-devel (ports/audio/audacity-devel)? AFAIK, there is a limitation for the stable version of Audacity (ports/audio/audacity) to use USB microphones. See the URLs below. USB-microphone in Open Sound System http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=USB_mic_on_Linux#USB-microphone_in_Open_Sound_System [Portaudio] Prompting for all output and input devices separately http://techweb.rfa.org/pipermail/portaudio/2006-February/005237.html I don't know whether the limitation is applied to FreeBSD or not. --- Watanabe Kazuhiro (CQG00620@nifty.ne.jp) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 14:18:20 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0893B16A420 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:18:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from kraid.nerim.net (kraid.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:1::95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A2F13C478 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:18:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by kraid.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC49CF178; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D11E1709E; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXKIXv9DGcp8; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 92A58170DC; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:13 +0100 (CET) To: Frank Staals From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: <4763C9B4.4010902@gmx.net> (Frank Staals's message of "Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:33:56 +0100") References: <4763C9B4.4010902@gmx.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p7 i386 Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:13 +0100 Message-ID: <86tzmk11p6.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Distributing directory over multiple discs ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:18:20 -0000 Frank Staals writes: Hi, > And off-course if this is possible how can I acchieve something like > that Take a look at the handbook, sections regarding GEOM (stripe) or VINUM. If you plan to use 7.0 or later, zfs can help too. -- B> Le jour où un bidet comprendra un tabouret, B> l'ethnologie aura fait un grand pas. Et ils eurent beaucoup de petites chaises percées. -+-vt in: - Lachaise Père & fils -+- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 15:18:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C54E16A473 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.huckenholz@mac.com) Received: from smtpoutm.mac.com (smtpoutm.mac.com [17.148.16.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D6E13C4DB for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.huckenholz@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (asmtp009-s [10.150.69.72]) by smtpoutm.mac.com (Xserve/smtpout019/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id lBFF52Mk027637; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.104] (83.243.115.94.static.cablesurf.de [83.243.115.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/asmtp009/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id lBFF4wft007986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:05:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20071214212341.47FD291FCE@xprdmxin.myway.com> References: <20071214212341.47FD291FCE@xprdmxin.myway.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <36D61FE0-D0F1-458E-BF32-9ABF5745D49A@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "s.huckenholz" Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:05:00 +0100 To: pushu@excite.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel compile problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:18:16 -0000 Hi Ryan, I presume you do something like : make -jX KERNCONF=newkernel kernel where X is a number larger than 2 ?? Run it without the j flag and then other errors will show up. These errors are caused by a misconfigured kernel and reading your kernel conf I found at least 2: I suggest that you either enable device scbus and device da or disable device umass and the next : if you disable device wlan you need to disable device ural too From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 15:26:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0FC16A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:26:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0241613C4F5 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:26:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=06-UJ0GAlJYRJc2kSVsA:9 a=aZ8-EEL6ALutlUVbbXoA:7 a=KAv9hbxYEc73pIAUFdXq_7cUplcA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=bsd-unix@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=rpratt1950@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp09.embarq.synacor.com: 76.6.194.183 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [76.6.194.183] ([76.6.194.183:60939] helo=kt.weeeble.com) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.1.21 r(19176)) with ESMTPA id DE/90-18084-A02F3674; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:26:03 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:26:01 -0500 From: Randy Pratt To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20071215102601.fdd31e7b.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20071215065949.GA59601@thought.org> References: <20071215065949.GA59601@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Is it safe yet! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:26:04 -0000 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:59:49 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > People, > > I'd like to do a complete upgrade to see if I can fix whatever is > broken with evolution. Evolution was updated a few days ago but there's no guarantee that it will fix whatever. You might try asking on a more specific question on freebsd-gnome mailing list. The more information you supply will help those who can answer. > I'm considerned about the MGA driver NOT having been backed up to > what worked. My xf86-video-mga is back-patched to v 1.4.7, IIRC > Everything works correcctly. But looking at the newest version of > xf86-video-mga (and mga-new) it looks like both ports are what > they were. Florent Thoumie has requested feedback from those using the patch from ports/117726 for x11-drivers/xf86-video-mga: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?a01628140712120517k667af97clddb475aca3b644d8 It appears that the current version in the ports tree, xf86-video-mga-1.9.100, works for some using a dual-head configuration while some have trouble using it with a single monitor. A ports update may try to update your patched version to the latest. Its possible to 'hold' a port from updating. If you're using portupgrade, the easiest might be to add an entry to the "HOLD_PKGS" section of /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf : HOLD_PKGS = [ 'bsdpan-*', 'x11-drivers/xf86-video-mga', ] There are other port update tools and methods to prevent a port from being updated but the preceeding is my preference. It would also be up to you to determine when to remove the entry and update. I'd suggest following the freebsd-x11 mailing list online for mga driver discussions: http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-x11.html Is it safe yet? I'm presuming you mean is it safe to update ports at this time. The ports tree is in "thaw" state after the tree was tagged for the 6.3 and 7.0 releases so new commits are being made. I'm just not sure how to answer the 'safe' part though. HTH, Randy -- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 17:13:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6F116A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800C713C459 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBFHDVca094242; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBFHDV0j094234; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:13:31 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:13:30 -0800 Message-ID: <1197738810.47640b3aacde0@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:13:30 -0800 From: Yuri To: Erik Cederstrand References: <1197669823.4762fdbfcb44d@webmail.rawbw.com> <89ce7f740712141411m4ecd5f17odb1e9bd9939bf96@mail.gmail.com> <4763AD82.5010802@cederstrand.dk> In-Reply-To: <4763AD82.5010802@cederstrand.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.219.144.224 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/local/rc.d/apache22 start doesn't start Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:13:35 -0000 Quoting Erik Cederstrand : > I've been bitten by this a couple of times. Can anyone give me a hint to > where in the rc scripts I can add that one-liner to at least print > something like: > > $app not started. Please add $rcvar to /etc/rc.conf. > > instead of just silently failing? I would love to see this too. This is definitely a usability issue when somethis is not working silently. Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 17:51:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A3016A46B for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:51:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA5D13C448 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338FEBAE178F; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:51:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.165.70] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J3bAh-0006Dv-00; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:51:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4764146C.7090109@web.de> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:52:44 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Remko Lodder References: <20071212065822.4F6A313C457@mx1.freebsd.org> <475F9560.40703@FreeBSD.org> <20071212090407.8B26613C478@mx1.freebsd.org> <47600358.3010909@FreeBSD.org> <20071214163719.CF27C13C448@mx1.freebsd.org> <26512.194.74.82.3.1197650851.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> In-Reply-To: <26512.194.74.82.3.1197650851.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18RAH+UcEeXQ1BkZ4C2MAHoaS9Z7qcubXeTSGix XHW6hPQkn99bwE7W3TBnmFCkBDYtN0LLJkp0hvgc80vd4G5Uam 7IXdz+RZ8= Cc: samba@lists.samba.org, "W. D." , timur@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yikes! FreeBSD samba-3.0.26a_2, 1 is forbidden: "Remote Code Execution... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:51:34 -0000 Remko Lodder schrieb: > On Fri, December 14, 2007 5:37 pm, W. D. wrote: > >> At 09:50 12/12/2007, Remko Lodder wrote: >> >>> W. D. wrote: >>> > > >> Well, it's been 2 days now. When will the code be updated >> in the FreeBSD ports? The version on the Samba website is >> 3.0.28. (http://www.Samba.org/) Why is the FreeBSD ports >> version stuck at 3.0.26a_2,1? >> > > I figure you have some spare time to help maintain these issues? > As you might be aware we are in the process of having a release > cycle and we are investigating which ports need to be upgraded > to do this properly without breaking an entire release. > > THAT takes a little including rebuilding ports. > > >> If there are fixes available already on the Samba websites, >> why can't they be integrated into the ports? >> > > They can, we are working on it Just have a little patience > > >> I neet to get a fileserver going right away. I would like >> to use Samba. Perhaps I should just load Windows on it? >> > > Ah yes make my day and make it happen, just dont come back whining in case > it does not do what you would have expected or something. If you need the > thing urgently install it manually and be done with it. > > >> It seems to me that leaving a port broken like this is >> very "unprofessional". I would expect more from the folks >> maintaing FreeBSD. >> > > Exactly; please go to the Windows team and install windows on your machine > to get more professional support, including paying for everything > > You tend to forget that we are volunteers and cannot handle it all; if you > know better, please step up and work on it else stfu. > > >> When is it going to be fixed? Does "soon" mean this century? >> This year? When? >> >> > > For you i'll make an exception for 2010... > > For every other person, we will have this incorporated ASAP. > > >> >> >> Start Here to Find It Fast!™ -> >> http://www.US-Webmasters.com/best-start-page/ >> $8.77 Domain Names -> http://domains.us-webmasters.com/ >> >> >> *rofl* Perfect answer though... Regards, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 17:57:47 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F63F16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32AC13C459 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABA40BD102F9; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:57:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.165.70] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J3bGj-0007Dr-00; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:57:45 +0100 Message-ID: <476415E2.80604@web.de> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:58:58 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "V.I.Victor" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19lIfM/K5iFCi0PNEWFXN5C77FwEwnPBuqYYrXF 4qRQP3CO19ms6jvwQEbDwpyNwzXLffJMayV/YfF5jQX2LVG7l/ C2MJ9tMsI= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing "/var/mail" to a symlink X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:57:47 -0000 V.I.Victor schrieb: > Because of "/var" size considerations, I'd like to use a symlinked > "/usr" directory for email instead of "/var/mail". > > Based on today's research, I think the following will work. > > > With mail delivery off, I 'su' and: > > mkdir /usr/var.mail > cd /var > cp -p mail/* /usr/var.mail/ > mv mail mail.bak > ln -s /usr/var.mail mail > > Since 'ls -l /var' shows: > > drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 512 Dec 14 14:24 mail > > I should then: > > cd /usr > chmod 1777 var.mail > chown root:mail var.mail > > No changes are made to the "/var/mail" symlink. > > Then, if everything works, I just delete "/usr/mail.bak". > > > Does this seem OK? > > > Sorry to bother everyone with what's probably a trivial question, but > I *really* want to avoid screwing-up. The machine is remote; accessed > via ssh. > > Thanks! > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Sounds reasonable to me. I'd just check afterwards if the permissions are like you want them to be, i.e. as they have been before... And you might send one or another testmail to the an account on the system to see if everything works as before, before you delete the mail.mak directory... Rg, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 18:01:16 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6042A16A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F86B13C457 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp08.web.de (fmsmtp08.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.216]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C96BAE189A; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:01:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.165.70] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp08.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J3bK6-0007q7-00; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:01:14 +0100 Message-ID: <476416B3.7040701@web.de> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:02:27 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Schmehl References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18l1evj95vS2bg2BJUdYLUPNMYRS0rlN/bHcwch zdvfE6k8OVDFw4Ce4CFBrvOOyzTQUvFggyaL+0gYfJo+4NbSRV QKcIo7eus= Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: drm locking up the desktop? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:01:16 -0000 Paul Schmehl schrieb: > I recently upgraded to 6.2 release (i386) on my desktop workstation, > and I'm experiencing occasional lockups that require restarting X to > resolve. I can ssh in to the box and kill the process and force a > restart, but the desktop is completely unusable - both mouse and > keyboard don't function - so I can't restart X with Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc. > When I ssh in, performance is normal and top doesn't show any unusual > memory or CPU usage. PID974 was the pid for X. > > I found these errors in /var/log/messages: > Dec 12 09:36:51 utd59514 kernel: error: [drm:pid974:drm_lock_take] > *ERROR* 1 holds heavyweight lock > Dec 12 09:36:51 utd59514 kernel: error: [drm:pid974:drm_lock_take] > *ERROR* 1 holds heavyweight lock > > Although these showed up on the 12th, the desktop just locked up a few > minutes ago, so they *may* be unrelated. I tried unloading drm > (kldunload drm.ko), but that failed. > > When I grep the Xorg log I see these errors: > root@utd59514# grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to write to DVO Slave 112. > (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to write to DVO Slave 112. > (EE) RADEON(0): Unable to write to DVO Slave 112. > > I don't know if these are related to the problem either. I'm > wondering 1) has anybody else experienced this problem and 2) does > anyone have any suggestions as to where to start looking for the answer? > As far as I remember you can disable drm in your xorg.conf... I do not have it there, so I could not look it up... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 19:29:33 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8838B16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48F5913C4CC for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp06.web.de (fmsmtp06.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.172]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01716BAE8FE3; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:28:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.165.70] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp06.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J3cgr-0006Bg-00; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:28:49 +0100 Message-ID: <47642B3B.4090604@web.de> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:30:03 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Predrag Punosevac References: <20071208210331.GA1241@thought.org> <475B0A21.5000708@math.arizona.edu> <200712091445.23000.kneel.pardoe@virgin.net> <475C2014.6010805@math.arizona.edu> <475C80DE.40505@onetel.com> <475C95C6.4070702@math.arizona.edu> <475EEDAB.5040709@onetel.com> In-Reply-To: <475EEDAB.5040709@onetel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18vZUqHRjgbpQtJ0OuwXpsg3VthKTebSkELCAJH 0ECAQzKRxvNO5M0Z2L4a1ARGFZWLtRcPaYskq/pgXI7ZTpcZyr MTjIHuMQQ= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying DVD material :: somewhat OT. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:29:33 -0000 Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Any video posted on Youtube will work for youtube-dl . It will snap > the file in .flv format which can be player only with VLC and MPlayer. > Nothing else. Clive is capable of snapping videos from Google video as > well and has an additional capabilities to converting .flv files to > more friendly video formats like .MPG So what do you think? That I can > not watch YouTube because I use FreeBSD? Funny... > But there has been an issue, a friend of mine reported to me. I do not know anything about this topic, but I wanted to post it here for convenience. I have been told that there are various adult tubes on the net, that require flash > 7. Since flash9 is obviously not working on freebsd (at list it wasn't one month ago) this friend of mine is not able to watch those adult tubes. Due to his reporting, also tools like unplug-xpi did not do the job (btw, does this tool EVER download a flv file??) Well, this of course does not affect me at all, but I wanted to forward the issue/feedback to the list. Of course I will forward the replies back... At last I can say, I am happy not having any interest in adult tubes and therefore not being affected by this topic... (And I told my friend, he should not be wine-ing about this topic... ^^) Greez, Tino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 19:35:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FA416A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate01.web.de (fmmailgate01.web.de [217.72.192.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B44113C442 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:35:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elrap@web.de) Received: from smtp05.web.de (fmsmtp05.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.4.166]) by fmmailgate01.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA54BD172EC; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:35:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [84.152.165.70] (helo=freebsdangel.de) by smtp05.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.108 #208) id 1J3cmx-0006Ws-00; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:35:07 +0100 Message-ID: <47642CB5.5070906@web.de> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:36:21 +0100 From: Tino Engel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Staals References: <4763C9B4.4010902@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4763C9B4.4010902@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: elrap@web.de X-Sender: elrap@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19knPrEUDKNke8pmHaZsPhXlAEcZwlZmckQZAXR 5g384p8NUKjmOB25Il9PyDnellu0lyR3PbxlC95V1l9UDu6iPp VlOEZX3w4= Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Distributing directory over multiple discs ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:35:09 -0000 Frank Staals schrieb: > Since one of my discs is filling up rather quickly (Say disc A ) while > an other one stays quite empty (say disc B ) I would like to > distribute the content of a directory on disc A over both A and B. I > know I can simply move some of the files over to a sperate directory > on disc B but is is possible to somehow merge the 2 ? So for example > if I would do an ls in discA/dir I would also see the files that are > stored on discB/an/other/dir ? And off-course if this is possible how > can I acchieve something like that > > Regards, > I think on debian it used to be (or it is, dunno, I use freebsd now) possible to mount 2 filesystems on one mount point. the OS then took care of assigning the space. Well, I do not want to try it on my system though... 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:01:31 -0000 When I connect the USB cable 'usbdevs -v' shows the line: port 4 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, NIKON DSC D300(0x041a), NIKON(0x04b0), rev 1.00 But dmesg only shows: ugen0: on uhub4 Older camera (SONY 828) that I connected before showed up as umass0. Why FreeBSD doesn't recognize it as mass storage device? Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 21:07:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A26116A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (mail0.rawbw.com [198.144.192.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1921213C465 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from mail0.rawbw.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBFL6u27081310; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail0.rawbw.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id lBFL6uRo081307; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:06:56 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: mail0.rawbw.com: www set sender to yuri@rawbw.com using -f Received: from ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net (ip224.carlyle.sfo.ygnition.net [24.219.144.224]) by webmail.rawbw.com (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:06:56 -0800 Message-ID: <1197752816.476441f06b4b5@webmail.rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:06:56 -0800 From: Yuri To: Yuri References: <1197752487.476440a7d31a9@webmail.rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <1197752487.476440a7d31a9@webmail.rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.1 X-Originating-IP: 24.219.144.224 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anybody connected Nikon D300 to FreeBSD as umass? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:07:00 -0000 I think I figured out the reason by just looking at the kernel source. I need to add device vendor/product ids into umass.c. Yuri Quoting Yuri : > When I connect the USB cable 'usbdevs -v' shows the line: > port 4 addr 2: high speed, self powered, config 1, NIKON DSC D300(0x041a), > NIKON(0x04b0), rev 1.00 > > But dmesg only shows: > ugen0: on uhub4 > > Older camera (SONY 828) that I connected before showed up as umass0. > > Why FreeBSD doesn't recognize it as mass storage device? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 21:25:07 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD0A16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEACD13C465 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J3eVK-0005mM-64 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:02 +0000 Received: from 78-107-211-248.broadband.corbina.ru ([78.107.211.248]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:02 +0000 Received: from stgib by 78-107-211-248.broadband.corbina.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: stgib@list.ru Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:36:13 +0300 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <86wsrfr8zm.fsf@list.ru> References: <200712141742.30001.cblasius@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 78-107-211-248.broadband.corbina.ru User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ATzziozS0LeZXXp1k1nmwFXbS/k= Sender: news Subject: Re: csh programing book X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:25:08 -0000 Zbigniew Komarnicki writes: > Is there a good programming book for csh as for example for bash (free > available) ? > > For bash is here: > http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ > > Is such book for csh on the net (free available) ? http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Csh.html ? There are some other under index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 22:17:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFAD16A418 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:17:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberdog3k@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD7E13C44B for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:17:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cyberdog3k@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id j58so2016883hsj.11 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:17:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=P4/uSiVZMb0Aufe/plioGd9P6+4v7XJJFOp8JK049eQ=; b=qAM7ghRPRnbM1V6DANV9wd1jW5PrHeD6ziNcAFHqpj+0Njh31nt6pC85wjc2YLBY2m9YMLNIbx/ejjRxgqsfnBfTgAzp84nq6CqUr//LYgin60qozZPXSkyHa22xACEBYSjsmZ274EK2D3D97gb0TEvD3dVQ/COzez76cmHv5/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hkzBfPVp3mzVxI0+6BKbYKXcA2DVziCac7POWomKQGyOfE1WUBoICTOb33B0y1FzGuC3GwgZjTg4UNd9oJ97Bd1dABLe2lVwyadMxRBbCEqqVI4LWGJZEQOuDT5FZ9FKLnEuOEmiuXaaOjGLKxlQuCW1WQqscl99XXOCRLc+h7Q= Received: by 10.150.136.6 with SMTP id j6mr278130ybd.0.1197757053110; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.182.11 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:17:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:17:33 -0500 From: "Matt LaPlante" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <340a29540712141935j387d3cffo56d5aca0ba1865a4@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Rob , FreeBSD Questions , Andrew Falanga Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:17:34 -0000 On Dec 14, 2007 11:45 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Falanga > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:35 PM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: Rob; FreeBSD Questions > > Subject: Re: Suggestions please for what POP or IMAP servers to use > > > > > > On Dec 13, 2007 10:06 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > > The developer is very adamant about writing dovecot strictly to > > > > the letter of the IMAP specification. He's also discovered many > > > > of the popular clients have bugs, and are unable to work (or at > > > > least have issues) with an IMAP server that goes purely by the rules. > > > > > > > > He refused to "break" his software to work around bugs on the > > > > client side, but ultimately compromised by writing in > > > > work-arounds that you can enable in the config file. You can > > > > enable them all if you like. > > > > > > > > > > Which is a really dumb attitude since the dovecot developer was > > > not the author of the IMAP standard and probably was in diapers > > > when the standard was first written: > > > > > > I agree with your sentiment that, "who can use a server that no client can > > connect to?" However, that being said, why write a standard you don't > > intend to adhere too? It's a crying shame that folks write standards for > > things like IMAP and e-mail client providers don't follow them. I wished > > more people were like this fellow who writes Dovecot! If more people were > > strict about server interfaces, then perhaps more vendors would > > write their > > code to the standard instead of those who write the standards > > enabling poor > > compliance by "dumbing" down their servers. > > > > It's a chicken and egg problem. > > There's nothing wrong with writing an extremely strict standard. > The issue is the implementation. > > If your server implementation is so strict that most clients have > difficulty, then users will find something else and your standard > will end up on the dustbin. > > It's better to start out with a strict standard and a forgiving > server implementation, then as it falls into mainstream use, work > with the client developers to correct their stuff. You've effectively described dovecot here. Its codebase is perhaps designed to be very strict, however the same codebase also includes configurable 'workarounds' (enabled by default in many distros) for clients that are not up to spec. They're trivial to toggle and well documented. So, this meets both criteria that it will "just work" with clients now, and the clients themselves could theoretically (good luck with Outlook) fix their code in the future. As far as I'm concerned, it's a fairly ideal environment, and I'm glad the developer has gone to the trouble to 1) stick to standards in the core code and 2) made a point of documenting and providing workarounds for buggy clients. I personally use dovecot (+postfix) with great success. Dovecot is modern, featureful, well documented, and its SASL impementation is particularly useful with postfix. I've had no difficulty with clients not being able to connect. > > We don't want to end up like Microsoft - which writes very lax > and contradictory standards, then makes up strict implementations. > Then every new release of their stuff breaks things. > > > Ted > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 12/14/2007 > 11:29 AM > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 22:19:35 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 757E216A419 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:19:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3012C13C455 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:19:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBFMJUBN014486; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:19:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5SSPMVP20ehF; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:19:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (dsl.daleco.biz [209.125.108.70]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lBFMIbGs014464; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:18:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <476452B7.4050205@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:18:31 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070418 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rudy References: <4754C19E.5060708@monkeybrains.net> <4754CD5B.90605@daleco.biz> <4754DD17.6050701@monkeybrains.net> <20071204074444.GB12505@dan.emsphone.com> <476198EB.5010802@monkeybrains.net> <4761B4B4.8080100@daleco.biz> <4762FA39.50602@monkeybrains.net> <47630ED2.5090400@monkeybrains.net> In-Reply-To: <47630ED2.5090400@monkeybrains.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: cron pile up! Lot's of "cron: running job (cron)" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:19:35 -0000 Rudy wrote: >> The thing is, sometimes it runs fine, other times it backlogs (It may >> complete at a latter date... the PID 82253 is still waiting ... Gonna >> see it it completes instead of killing all the stuck crons...). >> > > All the crons are cleared out right now... 'ps' shows only crond. > Related to putting the other cron job in " marks??? > Well, I think I messed up in my suggestion, by omitting the CRON at the end. My point/thought was, put the entire command "/path/to/script.sh ARG" in quotes. Cron is pretty archaic, and I wondered if it was trying to run "/path/to/script.sh" and "ARG" as two jobs instead of one, and hanging on "ARG" since CRON is something of a reserved word. IANAE, YMMV, and all that. Kevin Kinsey -- I like myself, but I won't say I'm as handsome as the bull that kidnapped Europa. -- Marcus Tullius Cicero From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 22:34:13 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8216A418; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from postmaster.etv.net (postmaster.etv.net [66.111.113.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFA913C45B; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from efinley04.etv.net ([74.214.237.51] helo=science3.efinley.com) by postmaster.etv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1J3dE9-000Ltd-Vj; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:03:14 -0700 From: Elliot Finley To: User Questions , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:03:14 -0700 Organization: Emery Telcom Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.1/32.1088 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: OS bug in taskq X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: efinleywork@efinley.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:13 -0000 Hello, After turning tls/ssl on in Exim and installing dovecot (with pop3s and imaps) I've been getting a panic: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled =46atel trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid =3D 2; apic id =3D 06 fault virtual address =3D 0x104 fault code =3D supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer =3D 0x20:0xc06730cd stack pointer =3D 0x28:0xea1ddc90 frame pointer =3D 0x28:0xea1ddc9c code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags =3D resume, IOPL =3D 0 current process =3D 5 (thread taskq) It's always the same. Same cpuid, same pointers, etc... I have: dumpdev=3D"AUTO" in /etc/rc.conf and: options KDB options DDB # debugging kernel in the kernel and I'm still unable to obtain a crash dump. Hopefully there is enough info in this email for a hacker to point me in the right direction to debug this. dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. =46reeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. =46reeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p5 #1: Mon Nov 19 11:16:44 MST 2007 root@postmaster.etv.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DDB-SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2793.20-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0xf4a Stepping =3D 10 =46eatures=3D0xbfebfbff Features2=3D0x641d> AMD Features=3D0x20100000 AMD Features2=3D0x1 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory =3D 3220963328 (3071 MB) avail memory =3D 3150856192 (3004 MB) ACPI APIC Table: =46reeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 !=3D expected base 24 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 !=3D expected base 56 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 64-87 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 amr0: mem 0xd80f0000-0xd80fffff,0xdfdc0000-0xdfdfffff irq 46 at device 14.0 on pci2 amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amr0: Firmware 522A, BIOS H430, 256MB RAM pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.0 on pci5 pci6: on pcib6 em0: port 0xecc0-0xecff mem 0xdfae0000-0xdfafffff irq 64 at device 7.0 on pci6 em0: Ethernet address: 00:18:8b:34:70:50 pcib7: at device 0.2 on pci5 pci7: on pcib7 em1: port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xdf8e0000-0xdf8fffff irq 65 at device 8.0 on pci7 em1: Ethernet address: 00:18:8b:34:70:51 pcib8: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 uhci0: port 0xbce0-0xbcff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbcc0-0xbcdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdff00000-0xdff003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub4: vendor 0x413c product 0xa001, class 9/0, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 uhub4: multiple transaction translators uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib9: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pci9: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) pci9: at device 5.1 (no driver attached) pci9: at device 5.2 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xccf0-0xccf7,0xcce4-0xcce7,0xccd8-0xccdf,0xccd0-0xccd3,0xcc70-0xcc7f mem 0xdf5fec00-0xdf5fecff irq 23 at device 6.0 on pci9 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 pci9: at device 13.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xcb000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xccfff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ukbd0: Dell DRAC4, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: Dell DRAC4, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: X report 0x0002 not supported device_attach: ums0 attach returned 6 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 device_attach: afd0 attach returned 6 acd1: CDROM at ata2-slave PIO3 amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 559600MB (1146060800 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/amrd0s1a fire_saver: the console does not support M_VGA_CG320 module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (fire_saver, 0xc8d50c10, 0) error 19 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 23:13:37 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DB216A509 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:13:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dtynan@kalopa.com) Received: from mail.kalopa.net (mail.kalopa.net [82.195.155.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ABB13C459 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dtynan@kalopa.com) Received: from mail.kalopa.com (mail.kgbb.net [84.203.222.58]) by mail.kalopa.net (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lBFMgRYZ061680; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:42:28 GMT (envelope-from dtynan@kalopa.com) Received: (from dtynan@localhost) by mail.kalopa.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id lBFMZxG52757; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:35:59 GMT (envelope-from dtynan) Received: from mail.kalopa.net (mail.kalopa.net [82.195.155.65]) by mail.kalopa.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id lBFMZu552750 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:35:57 GMT (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by mail.kalopa.net (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lBFMfaKd061657 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:42:11 GMT (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926D8170CD8; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E35616A509; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8216A418; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from postmaster.etv.net (postmaster.etv.net [66.111.113.15]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFA913C45B; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 22:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from efinley04.etv.net ([74.214.237.51] helo=science3.efinley.com) by postmaster.etv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1J3dE9-000Ltd-Vj; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:03:14 -0700 From: Elliot Finley X-DoIKnowU: Addr=[/v/dtynan/Mail/Addresses] X-Known: NO To: User Questions , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:03:14 -0700 Organization: Emery Telcom Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 4.1/32.1088 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/5140/Sat Dec 15 21:09:37 2007 on mail.kalopa.net X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/5140/Sat Dec 15 21:09:37 2007 on mail.kalopa.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on mail.kalopa.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail.kalopa.com id lBFMZu552750 Cc: Subject: OS bug in taskq X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: efinleywork@efinley.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:13:37 -0000 Hello, After turning tls/ssl on in Exim and installing dovecot (with pop3s and imaps) I've been getting a panic: kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled Fatel trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 2; apic id = 06 fault virtual address = 0x104 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc06730cd stack pointer = 0x28:0xea1ddc90 frame pointer = 0x28:0xea1ddc9c code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 5 (thread taskq) It's always the same. Same cpuid, same pointers, etc... I have: dumpdev="AUTO" in /etc/rc.conf and: options KDB options DDB # debugging kernel in the kernel and I'm still unable to obtain a crash dump. Hopefully there is enough info in this email for a hacker to point me in the right direction to debug this. dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p5 #1: Mon Nov 19 11:16:44 MST 2007 root@postmaster.etv.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DDB-SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2793.20-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf4a Stepping = 10 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d> AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 3220963328 (3071 MB) avail memory = 3150856192 (3004 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 8 ioapic1: Changing APIC ID to 9 ioapic1: WARNING: intbase 32 != expected base 24 ioapic2: Changing APIC ID to 10 ioapic2: WARNING: intbase 64 != expected base 56 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 32-55 on motherboard ioapic2 irqs 64-87 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.17.2 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 cpu2: on acpi0 cpu3: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 2.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pcib2: at device 0.0 on pci1 pci2: on pcib2 amr0: mem 0xd80f0000-0xd80fffff,0xdfdc0000-0xdfdfffff irq 46 at device 14.0 on pci2 amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amr0: Firmware 522A, BIOS H430, 256MB RAM pcib3: at device 0.2 on pci1 pci3: on pcib3 pcib4: at device 4.0 on pci0 pci4: on pcib4 pcib5: at device 5.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib5 pcib6: at device 0.0 on pci5 pci6: on pcib6 em0: port 0xecc0-0xecff mem 0xdfae0000-0xdfafffff irq 64 at device 7.0 on pci6 em0: Ethernet address: 00:18:8b:34:70:50 pcib7: at device 0.2 on pci5 pci7: on pcib7 em1: port 0xdcc0-0xdcff mem 0xdf8e0000-0xdf8fffff irq 65 at device 8.0 on pci7 em1: Ethernet address: 00:18:8b:34:70:51 pcib8: at device 6.0 on pci0 pci8: on pcib8 uhci0: port 0xbce0-0xbcff irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xbcc0-0xbcdf irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xbca0-0xbcbf irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xdff00000-0xdff003ff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered uhub4: vendor 0x413c product 0xa001, class 9/0, rev 2.00/0.00, addr 2 uhub4: multiple transaction translators uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pcib9: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci9: on pcib9 pci9: at device 5.0 (no driver attached) pci9: at device 5.1 (no driver attached) pci9: at device 5.2 (no driver attached) atapci0: port 0xccf0-0xccf7,0xcce4-0xcce7,0xccd8-0xccdf,0xccd0-0xccd3,0xcc70-0xcc7f mem 0xdf5fec00-0xdf5fecff irq 23 at device 6.0 on pci9 ata2: on atapci0 ata3: on atapci0 pci9: at device 13.0 (no driver attached) isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xfc00-0xfc0f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci1 ata1: on atapci1 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xcafff,0xcb000-0xcbfff,0xcc000-0xccfff,0xec000-0xeffff on isa0 ppc0: parallel port not found. sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 ukbd0: Dell DRAC4, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd2 at ukbd0 ums0: Dell DRAC4, rev 1.10/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: X report 0x0002 not supported device_attach: ums0 attach returned 6 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec acd0: CDROM at ata0-master UDMA33 device_attach: afd0 attach returned 6 acd1: CDROM at ata2-slave PIO3 amr0: delete logical drives supported by controller amrd0: on amr0 amrd0: 559600MB (1146060800 sectors) RAID 5 (optimal) SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/amrd0s1a fire_saver: the console does not support M_VGA_CG320 module_register_init: MOD_LOAD (fire_saver, 0xc8d50c10, 0) error 19 _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 15 23:59:32 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C91F16A420; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dtynan@kalopa.com) Received: from mail.kalopa.net (mail.kalopa.net [82.195.155.65]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B7A13C4D3; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dtynan@kalopa.com) Received: from mail.kalopa.com (mail.kgbb.net [84.203.222.58]) by mail.kalopa.net (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lBG05gqu064272; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:05:42 GMT (envelope-from dtynan@kalopa.com) Received: (from dtynan@localhost) by mail.kalopa.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) id lBFNxDK54658; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:59:13 GMT (envelope-from dtynan) Received: from mail.kalopa.net (mail.kalopa.net [82.195.155.65]) by mail.kalopa.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id lBFNxC554651 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:59:13 GMT (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [69.147.83.53]) by mail.kalopa.net (8.13.6/8.13.3) with ESMTP id lBG04r8m064234 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:05:24 GMT (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::36]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6031F10; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B74916A52E; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8EC16A417 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F5513C458 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5FAC61CC07B; Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:58:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:58:10 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick X-DoIKnowU: Addr=[/v/dtynan/Mail/Addresses] X-Known: NO To: Elliot Finley Message-ID: <20071215235810.GA81924@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Errors-To: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/5140/Sat Dec 15 21:09:37 2007 on mail.kalopa.net X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.1/5140/Sat Dec 15 21:09:37 2007 on mail.kalopa.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on mail.kalopa.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, User Questions Subject: Re: OS bug in taskq X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:59:32 -0000 On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 01:03:14PM -0700, Elliot Finley wrote: > I have: > dumpdev="AUTO" > in /etc/rc.conf and: > ... > in the kernel and I'm still unable to obtain a crash dump. Hopefully > there is enough info in this email for a hacker to point me in the > right direction to debug this. I can't help with the panic itself, but the reason for the inability to obtain a crash dump is mentioned in a thread I started in November: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-November/038069.html The explanation of the problem was documented best by Doug Barton in this thread (over at freebsd-rc@): http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2007-November/001263.html Open PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118255 -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"