From owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 9 10:25:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730DC16A403 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC2813C4AE for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 10:25:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chrcoluk@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 71so252826ugh for ; Wed, 09 May 2007 03:25:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mkJYYjHpab83JR7ubys36zVOTKZRn2CI07ER7OW44d7FPP2qeiwsp5N4ewb5wZ/R791vb4S5tfP20dNTr3q6X3NJULnGCbrMCw37AcVQ54u8XeC/XQs2km7LqxmS5Ohr7c9bZG7C2s7cBXo3hQoI5f+k6WFQ2SoKRCQ1I1mPiEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BxuOJ3iwo31vyN/6NRjSmb5Z2pAIVQAVPCyQnUjuk/GOdgwRFY3nfNkq49gSetlUoDmaMwImVH/uTRz+Qu5d8fTeI0ofOezo6g4Zp6Kz6DxiRlbIALoZ2EovZ9XnubbnG4uekkeyrfEs784plASsnuVJ0xNy1FpEdzcdQdnbEVM= Received: by 10.67.88.17 with SMTP id q17mr1163580ugl.1178706301613; Wed, 09 May 2007 03:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.242.1 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2007 03:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3aaaa3a0705090325g3590e878kc7e67c6562e21ad8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:25:01 +0100 From: Chris To: "Kris Kennaway" In-Reply-To: <20070505160221.GC57955@xor.obsecurity.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070423153334.GA530@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070423154745.GA872@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070423155500.413CB3A5@fep9.cogeco.net> <20070423155922.GA1156@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070424010422.9E9376A4@fep3.cogeco.net> <20070424021553.GA4224@xor.obsecurity.org> <20070424025031.F0841AE5@fep1.cogeco.net> <20070424035249.GA5598@xor.obsecurity.org> <3aaaa3a0705050423x72b78952wfd530a492c9cea14@mail.gmail.com> <20070505160221.GC57955@xor.obsecurity.org> Cc: Paul , freebsd-smp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: System Cpu Between 50-70% and need to find out why X-BeenThere: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD SMP implementation group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 10:25:03 -0000 On 05/05/07, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sat, May 05, 2007 at 12:23:12PM +0100, Chris wrote: > > On 24/04/07, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > >On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 10:50:47PM -0400, Paul wrote: > > >> > > >> >It was almost certainly what I said above. Too bad you weren't able > > >> >to follow through with it. > > >> > > > >> >Kris > > >> > > >> Hi Kris, > > >> > > >> I was running the make depend for over 1 hour and it showed no end in > > >> sight. I figured to run that to the finish and the full make it might > > >> have taken all day so I really had no choice :) > > > > > >Odd, I suspect you were doing more than just building a kernel, which > > >only takes a few minutes to build completely (even on a quota-enabled > > >machine ;) > > > > > >> I will test this and see if it fixes the problem and confirm if this > > >> is the culprit (or not). > > >> > > >> I am surprised to hear this is all a function of the Quota problem > > >> you mention. I suppose nobody is using this anymore or is there a > > >> better system being used? > > > > > >It's just a left-over from the post-4.x SMP rewrite that didn't get > > >addressed until recently. In the grand scheme of things quotas are > > >relatively infrequently used, so it was a higher priority for the > > >developers to work on other things first. As I mentioned, fixing this > > >performance problem with quotas has now been completed in 7.0 and it > > >will probably make it back into 6.x before 6.3. > > > > > >Kris > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kris please address this ASAP in 6.x, QUOTA is used quite often in > > server environments probably more so then you believe. Considering > > 6.x is pushed as a stable version of FreeBSD and 4.x was killed off > > its dissapointing QUOTA was knowingly broken and left unpatched. > > Have you tested the 6.x patch? It's easy to criticize the developers > but harder to actually step up and help with the process yourself. > > Kris > > Where is the 6.x patch? thanks Chris