From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 25 07:40:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5AE16A46B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F8F13C458 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAP7e1sh043307 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAP7e1YK043306; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:40:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200711250740.lAP7e1YK043306@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Jeff Palmer Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA1616A418 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6D3113C45A for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:32:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAP7VxVA072788 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:31:59 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAP7VxmD072787; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:31:59 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200711250731.lAP7VxmD072787@www.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:31:59 GMT From: Jeff Palmer To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: www/118241: Doc update X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:40:02 -0000 >Number: 118241 >Category: www >Synopsis: Doc update >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 25 07:40:01 UTC 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jeff Palmer >Release: N/A >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/support.html#IRC lists several IRC channels on various servers. I'd like to add info for the ##FreeBSD channel on freenode's IRC network. Channel ##FreeBSD on Freenode is a general help channel with about 300 users at any time. The conversations have been known to run off-topic for a while, but priority is given to users with FreeBSD questions. We're good about helping you understand the basics, referring to the handbook whenever possible, and directing you where to learn more about the topic you need help with. We're a primarily english speaking channel, though we have users from all over the world. If you'd like to speak in your native language, try to ask the question in english and then relocate to another channel ##freebsd- as appropriate. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 03:10:04 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8739B16A420 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artur@eboundhost.com) Received: from em.eboundhost.com (em.eboundhost.com [65.91.249.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4711D13C44B for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from artur@eboundhost.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by em.eboundhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3AB4C888B; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:41:41 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.91 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.91 tagged_above=-10 required=6.6 tests=[AWL=0.527, BAYES_50=0.001, DYN_RDNS_SHORT_HELO_HTML=0.499, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from em.eboundhost.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (em.eboundhost.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EvC-L5T4OJFe; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:41:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mobility (c-71-57-18-206.hsd1.il.comcast.net [71.57.18.206]) by em.eboundhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B014C8895; Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:41:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004a01c82fd5$e56fad60$6701a8c0@mobility> From: "eBoundHost: Artur" To: Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:41:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: erik@cepheid.org Subject: Requested changes to web page X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:10:04 -0000 Hello List, I would like to submit a change to the following page: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html My request is that we replace the words=20 "Hitler quotes." with the phrase "The speaker of the quote is not to be the basis for categorizing the = quote as offensive." (quoted from Erik Osterholm freebsd-lists-erik@erikosterholm.org with = his permission) We have just had a conversation at freebsd-questions about this topic = and it was pointed out that we need to have the hitler reference for the = sake of keeping the quotes unfiltered, and I agree with the fact that we = should not filter out quotes in the databased unless they are directly = vulgar or offensive. But my opinion is that having the "hitler quotes" = on the front page, polarizes the topic and takes away from the entire = project. The suggested replacement is a much more effective and intelligent way = of conveying this message. Best Regards, Artur eBoundHost.com http://www.eboundhost.com From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 11:07:09 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEBE16A419 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF8413C465 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAQB79KQ025617 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:07:09 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAQB79r5025613 for freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:07:09 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:07:09 GMT Message-Id: <200711261107.lAQB79r5025613@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:07:10 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o www/51135 www Problems with the mailing-lists search interface o www/91539 www FreeBSD web site renders very badly o www/116660 www docs.freebsd.org returns bad chunked encoding 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o www/44181 www www "Release Information" organization s www/73551 www List archive 'quoted-printable' corruption. o www/98798 www Our statistics page is out of date o www/103522 www Search interface oddity o www/105333 www [PATCH] Base selection in events in libcommon.xsl does o www/111228 www Usability improvements for bug search query page o www/111791 www FreeBSD website messes up links o www/116479 www cvsweb+enscript formatting bugfix o www/117368 www japasene page for send-pr web interface doesn't work o www/118194 www information for the site "commercial vendor support" o www/118241 www Doc update: add another IRC channel to FAQ 11 problems total. From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 26 23:37:39 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572C616A418 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bma@gilmour.subvert.org.uk) Received: from jagger.subvert.org.uk (jagger.subvert.org.uk [80.68.88.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E0513C469 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bma@gilmour.subvert.org.uk) Received: from localhost (jagger.subvert.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) by jagger.subvert.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEB3380EC for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from jagger.subvert.org.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jagger.subvert.org.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-54DeXNBI47 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from gilmour.subvert.org.uk (user-544749b3.wfd86a.dsl.pol.co.uk [84.71.73.179]) (Authenticated sender: bma) by jagger.subvert.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C221D380E9 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: by gilmour.subvert.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 40466B834; Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:05:20 +0000 From: "Benjamin M. A'Lee" To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20071126230520.GA1298@gilmour.subvert.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html rewording X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:37:39 -0000 --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In light of the "discussion" on other lists, I'd like to suggest the follow= ing clarification to the text of http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html Replace: Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': =09 * Hitler quotes. With: Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': =09 * Hitler quotes, or quotes from any other controversial figure, should not be declared offensive simply because they are controversial, but only if the quote itself is offensive. Somebody else may be able to suggest a better wording; as I understand it, = the point is that offensiveness of quotes should be judged on their own merit, = not on the ethics/morality/politics/anything else of the quoted person; the page should reflect this (as it seems to be misunderstood to mean that all Hitler quotes are acceptable). --=20 Benjamin A'Lee :: benjamin.alee@subvert.org.uk Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/ --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHS1EuEUZDNrttL6ARAhB6AJ919rwpW0JKFoYLRC5djF8fHob7TQCeJMh1 uQI+RLI7k9k4jVanU084UvI= =2mhH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 07:50:00 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B2116A421 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from galain.elvandar.org (galain.elvandar.org [217.148.169.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77C113C44B for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:50:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost.we-dare.net ([127.0.0.1] helo=galain.elvandar.org) by galain.elvandar.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IwvCh-0001wx-IT; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 Received: from 194.74.82.3 (SquirrelMail authenticated user remko) by galain.elvandar.org with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <34310.194.74.82.3.1196149799.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 (CET) From: "Remko Lodder" To: "Benjamin M. A'Lee" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html rewording X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@elvandar.org List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:50:01 -0000 On Tue, November 27, 2007 12:05 am, Benjamin M. A'Lee wrote: > In light of the "discussion" on other lists, I'd like to suggest the > following > clarification to the text of http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html > > Replace: > > Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': > > * Hitler quotes. > > With: > > Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': > > * Hitler quotes, or quotes from any other controversial figure, > should not be declared offensive simply because they are > controversial, but only if the quote itself is offensive. > > Somebody else may be able to suggest a better wording; as I understand it, > the > point is that offensiveness of quotes should be judged on their own merit, > not > on the ethics/morality/politics/anything else of the quoted person; the > page > should reflect this (as it seems to be misunderstood to mean that all > Hitler > quotes are acceptable). > > -- > Benjamin A'Lee :: benjamin.alee@subvert.org.uk > Subvert Technologies :: http://subvert.org.uk/ > Hello, Personally I do not see a real reason to update this text, I think it is fine as it is now, and indeed everyone should decide for him or herself whether these quotes are offensive or not, I think the world is already full of the additions that you are proposing :-) lets keep it simple.. But that's just my opinion... Thanks for discussing this and using the mailinglists to get this going. Cheers remko -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 07:51:23 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8214C16A418; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581DE13C447; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (remko@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAR7pNtA093495; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:23 GMT (envelope-from remko@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from remko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAR7pN2S093491; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:23 GMT (envelope-from remko) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:23 GMT Message-Id: <200711270751.lAR7pN2S093491@freefall.freebsd.org> To: remko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org, remko@FreeBSD.org From: remko@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: www/118194: information for the site "commercial vendor support" X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:51:23 -0000 Synopsis: information for the site "commercial vendor support" Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-www->remko Responsible-Changed-By: remko Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 27 07:51:22 UTC 2007 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=118194 From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 14:20:02 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1655F16A418 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E958B13C4F8 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAREK1IX010098 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAREK1fn010097; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200711271420.lAREK1fn010097@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Boris Samorodov Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915D116A478 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E7D13C442 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from stat.sem.ipt.ru ([192.168.12.1] helo=ipt.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix1Hr-000Bts-9G for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:19:43 +0300 Received: from bsam by ipt.ru with local (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix1LT-000Eml-GI for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:23:27 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:23:27 +0300 From: Boris Samorodov Sender: Boris Samorodov To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Cc: Subject: www/118284: [patch] update a page about Fortune File Commit Policy X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Boris Samorodov List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:20:02 -0000 >Number: 118284 >Category: www >Synopsis: [patch] update a page about Fortune File Commit Policy >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 27 14:20:01 UTC 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Boris Samorodov >Release: FreeBSD 7.0-BETA3 i386 >Organization: InPharmTech, Co. >Environment: System: FreeBSD localhost 7.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA3 #1: Sun Nov 18 00:36:13 MSK 2007 root@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MOOS i386 >Description: I've always had a feeling that the FreeBSD team stays away from politics. There are many people that influenced the man's history. Why we should point at one of them? If we are really out of politics then we shouldn't. And now I prefer to shut up and code. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: I propose the same meaning but at non-political manner for the Fortune File Commit Policy (official FreeBSD site). --- internal.diff begins here --- Index: fortunes.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/dcvs/www/en/internal/fortunes.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 fortunes.sgml --- fortunes.sgml 19 Aug 2006 21:20:35 -0000 1.5 +++ fortunes.sgml 27 Nov 2007 13:55:03 -0000 @@ -18,7 +18,8 @@

If an entry offends more than a couple of FreeBSD committers and does not contain any objective poignant historical reference, the - entry should be in the offensive file.

+ entry should be in the offensive file. The speaker of the quote + is not to be the basis for categorizing the quote as offensive.

Examples of offensive entries:

@@ -32,7 +33,6 @@ 'offensive':

    -
  • Hitler quotes.
  • Jokes about emacs/vi or your favorite technology, as long as they stay in good fun and don't cross the line of a being a vicious personal attack on the designer.
    • --- internal.diff ends here --- WBR -- bsam >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 14:36:05 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D0616A41B for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6C513C455 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from [85.172.12.119] (helo=localhost.my.domain) by services.ipt.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1Ix0qs-000PkO-2N; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:51:50 +0300 To: remko@elvandar.org References: <34310.194.74.82.3.1196149799.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:52:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: <34310.194.74.82.3.1196149799.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> (Remko Lodder's message of "Tue\, 27 Nov 2007 08\:49\:59 +0100 \(CET\)") Message-ID: <87076177@ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html rewording X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:36:05 -0000 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 (CET) Remko Lodder wrote: > On Tue, November 27, 2007 12:05 am, Benjamin M. A'Lee wrote: > > Replace: > > Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': > > * Hitler quotes. I have already asked the question at another list but didn't get an answer. As I'm not a native English speaker can someone say what that phrase mean? As for me it seams like "Examples of enties that mainly are not offensive: * Hitler qoutes". > Personally I do not see a real reason to update this text, I'd prefer to see someting like "Examples and entries that sometimes may be not offensive: * Hitler quotes". But why the official FreeBSD site should point an attention at him personally? > I think it is > fine as it is now, and indeed everyone should decide for him or herself > whether these quotes are offensive or not, OK, let _others_ decide it after reading those quotes. But let's stay away of the politics at the official site. Using his name _alone_ *is* politics. > I think the world is already > full of the additions that you are proposing :-) lets keep it simple.. OK, I'll try to advice a simple phrase that has a strict apolitical meaning and send it via PR. WBR -- bsam From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 15:45:40 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D2A16A418 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:45:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jax12@suomi24.fi) Received: from eni-mailout02.sth.basefarm.net (eni-mailout02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.148.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AD113C4D9 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:45:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jax12@suomi24.fi) Received: from [10.7.4.193] (port=47963 helo=eni-cpps11.sth.basefarm.net) by eni-mailout02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix2OM-0000qc-83 for freebsd-www@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:30 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47961 helo=eni-cpps11.sth.basefarm.net) by eni-cpps11.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix2OM-0001sn-6T for freebsd-www@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:30 +0100 Received: from [62.197.189.126] by eni-cpps11.sth.basefarm.net with HTTP/1.1 (authenticated-user ) (CP PS-7_2_68,MS-UI-7_2_77); Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <17941533.1196177430196.JavaMail.apache@eni-cpps11.sth.basefarm.net> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:30:30 +0100 (CET) From: "jax12@suomi24.fi" To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-sender: jax12@suomi24.fi X-Complaints-To: abuse@suomi24.fi X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Ix2OM-0000qc-83. X-Scan-Signature: eni-mailout02.sth.basefarm.net 1Ix2OM-0000qc-83 b0b405dc9194a3a589991209c2dccf4f Subject: Problems with ftp-archive.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "jax12@suomi24.fi" List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:45:40 -0000 Hi! ~> ftp ftp-archive.freebsd.org ftp: connect: Connection refused FTP service at ftp-archive.freebsd.org seems to be down. Please check'n fix. Thanks! - JJ From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 16:34:44 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B9A16A418 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from galain.elvandar.org (galain.elvandar.org [217.148.169.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBCC13C4D9 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from evilcoder.xs4all.nl ([195.64.94.120] helo=elvandar.local) by galain.elvandar.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix3OU-0007e6-SI; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:34:42 +0100 Message-ID: <474C473F.3080805@elvandar.org> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:11 +0100 From: Remko Lodder User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Macintosh/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <34310.194.74.82.3.1196149799.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <87076177@ipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <87076177@ipt.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html rewording X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:34:44 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 (CET) Remko Lodder wrote: >> On Tue, November 27, 2007 12:05 am, Benjamin M. A'Lee wrote: > >>> Replace: >>> Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': >>> * Hitler quotes. > > I have already asked the question at another list but didn't get an > answer. As I'm not a native English speaker can someone say what that > phrase mean? As for me it seams like "Examples of enties that mainly > are not offensive: * Hitler qoutes". This means that quotes by Hitler should not by default be seen as offensive quotes. Imo he was a cruel man (to say the least) but that should have no influence on some of his quotes. > >> Personally I do not see a real reason to update this text, > > I'd prefer to see someting like "Examples and entries that sometimes > may be not offensive: * Hitler quotes". But why the official FreeBSD > site should point an attention at him personally? > >> I think it is >> fine as it is now, and indeed everyone should decide for him or herself >> whether these quotes are offensive or not, > > OK, let _others_ decide it after reading those quotes. But let's stay > away of the politics at the official site. Using his name _alone_ *is* > politics. No, it's just one example that is being displayed, we could also cite some other cruel person from the past.. > >> I think the world is already >> full of the additions that you are proposing :-) lets keep it simple.. > > OK, I'll try to advice a simple phrase that has a strict apolitical > meaning and send it via PR. OKI I noticed the PR, lets see what other people think:) Cheers remko > > > WBR -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 27 17:12:55 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8962216A418 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from galain.elvandar.org (galain.elvandar.org [217.148.169.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CC1413C465 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost.we-dare.net ([127.0.0.1] helo=galain.elvandar.org) by galain.elvandar.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ix3zS-0008Qe-4c; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:12:54 +0100 Received: from 195.64.94.120 (SquirrelMail authenticated user remko) by galain.elvandar.org with HTTP; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:12:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <60074.195.64.94.120.1196183574.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:12:54 +0100 (CET) From: "Remko Lodder" To: "jax12@suomi24.fi" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with ftp-archive.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: remko@elvandar.org List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:12:55 -0000 On Tue, November 27, 2007 4:30 pm, jax12@suomi24.fi wrote: > Hi! > > ~> ftp ftp-archive.freebsd.org > ftp: connect: Connection refused > > FTP service at ftp-archive.freebsd.org seems to be down. Please > check'n fix. Thanks! > > - JJ > works for me...... -- /"\ Best regards, | remko@FreeBSD.org \ / Remko Lodder | remko@EFnet X http://www.evilcoder.org/ | / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 28 16:10:45 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952F516A417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from kfs.ru (kfs.kfs.ru [62.183.117.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2941F13C46E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@kfs.ru) Received: from bsam by kfs.ru with local (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1IxPAL-000IUP-PE; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:49:33 +0300 To: Remko Lodder References: <34310.194.74.82.3.1196149799.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org> <87076177@ipt.ru> <474C473F.3080805@elvandar.org> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:49:33 +0300 In-Reply-To: <474C473F.3080805@elvandar.org> (Remko Lodder's message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:11 +0100") Message-ID: <31705954@serv3.int.kfs.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: "Boris B. Samorodov" Cc: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/internal/fortunes.html rewording X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:10:45 -0000 On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:11 +0100 Remko Lodder wrote: > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:49:59 +0100 (CET) Remko Lodder wrote: > >> On Tue, November 27, 2007 12:05 am, Benjamin M. A'Lee wrote: > > > >>> Replace: > >>> Examples of entries that should not usually be declared 'offensive': > >>> * Hitler quotes. > > > > I have already asked the question at another list but didn't get an > > answer. As I'm not a native English speaker can someone say what that > > phrase mean? As for me it seams like "Examples of enties that mainly > > are not offensive: * Hitler qoutes". > This means that quotes by Hitler should not by default be seen as > offensive quotes. Imo he was a cruel man (to say the least) but > that should have no influence on some of his quotes. I asked some linguists and they said I was right. > >> Personally I do not see a real reason to update this text, > > > > I'd prefer to see someting like "Examples and entries that sometimes > > may be not offensive: * Hitler quotes". But why the official FreeBSD > > site should point an attention at him personally? Seems that this is just how you understand that web page... > >> I think it is > >> fine as it is now, and indeed everyone should decide for him or herself > >> whether these quotes are offensive or not, > > > > OK, let _others_ decide it after reading those quotes. But let's stay > > away of the politics at the official site. Using his name _alone_ *is* > > politics. > No, it's just one example that is being displayed, we could also > cite some other cruel person from the past.. And that example may confuse/astonish someone (may be many) else? Isn't it a best idea to remove strict examples? > >> I think the world is already > >> full of the additions that you are proposing :-) lets keep it simple.. > > > > OK, I'll try to advice a simple phrase that has a strict apolitical > > meaning and send it via PR. > OKI I noticed the PR, lets see what other people think:) OK. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 30 15:40:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303F316A475 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC8513C467 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:40:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAUFe1e9057011 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAUFe1m1057010; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:40:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:40:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200711301540.lAUFe1m1057010@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Cory von Wallenstein Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AFC16A417 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E19D13C461 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id lAUFX2RG032774 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:33:02 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id lAUFX2D2032773; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:33:02 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200711301533.lAUFX2D2032773@www.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:33:02 GMT From: Cory von Wallenstein To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: www/118354: Request to be added to http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:40:01 -0000 >Number: 118354 >Category: www >Synopsis: Request to be added to http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/hardware.html >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-www >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Nov 30 15:40:00 UTC 2007 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Cory von Wallenstein >Release: web site >Organization: Servprise International >Environment: >Description: Servprise International - www.servprise.com Servprise International specializes in remote monitoring and hardware-safe remote reboot of FreeBSD servers. We have a Nagios plugin for automated recovery of crashed servers, and we provide a preconfigured server monitoring appliance based on FreeBSD. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: