From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 17:38:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86B0106564A for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706928FC19 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sdavtaker@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so131826fgb.35 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:38:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=1PJt9YekATH9BOm7/cng3bgb4QvdYIHG2jqk0JwUteE=; b=wXEJO7fXzNirFZNk+sj/f7xc2ruHvVNEpQ0FuCItLt+UoyeqkmoigUMqb3zrsvGuK8 rk0NQ709oZdMtzvPkQZ8+dRKb5qOc6wEubtskHe69y5m/hOZQeXPEkR2LtOoGZIm9Q14 WZ250YuAuwk2WX/ZSR30X93kVST6BYwYOhWE8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ApWyq8SyHB3EI33eBv487121WT79S8m75SeSDQVGYwxPgljlyHIKxnFG99s2o6qBk+ U+9mXu8B13EBQC3Kop9kVTJ3UseZqJS8alMeq04qzz2xqcGT59D7Fv0UD96AJIm6VmAS txCIcbmtOd5afE0wqC5HFQvXiZsN6trvqPNvI= Received: by 10.86.31.18 with SMTP id e18mr498494fge.6.1212599412365; Wed, 04 Jun 2008 10:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.68.11 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 10:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:10:12 -0300 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Sd=C3=A4vtaker?=" To: "FreeBSD Advocacy" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: talk@metabug.org Subject: Call for speakers in Buenos Aires X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:38:24 -0000 Hey, I'm from the BUG in University of Buenos Aires and we trying to find someone who wants to give a talk about PF. It will be in the context of the ECI08. The date will be between the july 24 and july 31 . It will be a short talk, about 30-45 minutes. If you know someone around here who can help, we really appreaciate to get in contact. Thanks Damian Vicino From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 05:52:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0F41065670 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 05:52:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AAE8FC1A for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 05:52:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EFD168AC72; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 02:35:37 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11304-06; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 02:35:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D5B168AC6D; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 02:34:02 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A214EFC0; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 02:34:02 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:31:12 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, Thorsten Glaser , Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de, general@desktopbsd.net, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:16:02 +0000 Cc: Subject: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:52:28 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD 2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly 27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 121 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 5 639 Russian Federation 1 653 Germany 1 489 Australia 1 314 Brazil 1 242 Japan 1 004 France 823 United Kingdom 822 Ukraine 790 Canada 747 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... Thanks to the folks at PC-BSD, we have a new PHP programmer that will be working with Antony Mawer towards cleaning up / finishing some of the outstanding areas of the web site, so expect to see some improvements in statistics reporting over the next few weeks. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhHeiAACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvN9RACcCcuRMnTeEhOz4XlJMcVRBm7U X1cAoOGk6ZvG3ab5DVpjKeIEokSEwlYY =cC+C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 13:59:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814951065689 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367188FC1C for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:59:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so56281yxl.13 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:59:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rUDBTsn3kblm6ABVp9DgmW3rf1UXqyKzUdSQ2UCZSBs=; b=v22eDYPDi3ZdF/kDl49vuhVO3YsTCCb9MP8q6yE2xxUhAnZD5FCWNPC9sxQJNSUiyj vTuxyULPbSXz2x9YdiHOpUTNqBcEbTh0lUQdy7kVdF+/p+ssOk1vBRORKk4MvX3vv7ET 7Iujefe9YlpycC1Ch/R1EJVykUjzJbxd4Pd6k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m3Ou9puGPjuLUmFt3knIoSae212yBTh+zeN4dvz5WXzD73ahUgS6qVY7ZnoXZnk2zt r9W92Tod+2d/cpmogUKyvffHfMr5yRcFkc0nkFnSpHMq5TTXUnPqaJOA6UTkJY4RcfS1 PQvT9+OsWGWpHBadDdKszvtlKg1Uk1YRZR+yE= Received: by 10.150.218.10 with SMTP id q10mr1805887ybg.55.1212672690735; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.219.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 06:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:31:30 +0300 From: "Odhiambo Washington" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:14:49 +0000 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org, midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, general@desktopbsd.net, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , Thorsten Glaser , users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:59:36 -0000 On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a > break down as follows: > > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > DesktopBSD 2 662 hosts > NetBSD 108 hosts > MirBSD 68 hosts > OpenBSD 59 hosts > DragonFly 27 hosts > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the other participants (6 more now) are:-) Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" --from a /. post From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 20:33:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA19D1065673; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732B28FC1E; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 20:33:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E559C168AD23; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:33:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12009-05; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:33:27 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4169C168AD17; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:33:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C8E4F122; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:33:31 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:30:36 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Odhiambo Washington Message-ID: <27207735E0A6FB4DCBFBBE25@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:25:08 +0000 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org, midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, general@desktopbsd.net, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:33:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > be submitted. That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ... Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool ... - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhITOwACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvO/yACg7Ph15XYty0J1tP+jXNs4Fzp3 CFwAoI/AgvbWotWJAUZJZ23aAhiyK993 =9QMv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 22:52:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7176106567A for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EC98FC1A for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so437034ywe.13 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:52:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=nVFGGXUu/sIXSgy+50LSkQaQeU+nMJtdADou+GnC8t4=; b=xD/7qYiH8RMlCQbhqC/LyMAnMWdJIbpvcBUY8E/LAeee4AHZVlaXl0+RAR7j4vkjBv GJ4C3t6hC19ax2K1rUXvSq6HiltNQcWz2Ks4lliLeNTXMicbhLp3aKNRdMumN4R0+1lQ nqnHWNVtKN64mL3zoW0GII0pYxIdv73N8j3yc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=xcP9Lapf2A73Mmrr7G5ZPIpXUpZ+fJ8SWhcZlHTY9TZfpWdtwLyuYPMJQm9nMLsmGy bEjsb8tfSe35DLCKLNKDrj6u3NxMJ1ZAC72dFq2OH/VjGR74Mu1ncJL8AHHiZzOV/5hn naiGApRfM85WZmGxQ9mrf1H7L5LEh4I8knomY= Received: by 10.151.114.9 with SMTP id r9mr2571779ybm.147.1212706329841; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm3940701ywf.9.2008.06.05.15.52.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:52:04 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <27207735E0A6FB4DCBFBBE25@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <27207735E0A6FB4DCBFBBE25@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806051952.04929.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:52:10 -0000 On Thursday 05 June 2008 17:30:36 Marc G. Fournier wrote: > --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington > > wrote: > > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > > that there are FreeBSD? > > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > > be submitted. > > That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues > with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly > notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out > about it ... > > Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so > although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool > ... I'm one of those that just found out ! Will install bsdstats now =D Any tips on how to configure will be a welcome addition since there seems to be no manpage on bsdstats :( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bsdstats&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASE&format=html Thanks! -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 23:12:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389D21065671 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:12:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@belngo.info) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B11868FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:12:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@belngo.info) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c30so492589ika.3 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.117.20 with SMTP id u20mr83988mkm.166.1212707574106; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.110.4 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 02:12:54 +0300 From: "Alaksiej C" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:12:56 -0000 I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, > with a > > break down as follows: > > > > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > > DesktopBSD 2 662 hosts > > NetBSD 108 hosts > > MirBSD 68 hosts > > OpenBSD 59 hosts > > DragonFly 27 hosts > > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > > > > I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the > number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's > something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the > other participants (6 more now) are:-) > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? > For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > be submitted. > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > > "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > --from a /. post > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 23:14:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D411065670 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFBB8FC1E for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:14:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so664984uge.37 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.10.18 with SMTP id n18mr803734ugi.4.1212707656531; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.99.2 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a7894eb0806051614q366b4373sd8088829a0631592@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:14:16 -0700 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Odhiambo Washington" , scrappy@hub.org In-Reply-To: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:14:18 -0000 Hi Marc, can you please post these individually to different lists next time rather than one massive cross-post? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > that there are FreeBSD? Yes I should think that is pretty obvious. =) I would expect that Yahoo! alone has ~2 orders of magnitude more FreeBSD servers than what is represented there. These numbers have basically no correlation with the number of installed instances of these operating systems. Anyone interested in this effort should submit patches to optionally install/enable this functionality in the installer of the various operating systems - Murray From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 5 23:19:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E3F1065673 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAAB8FC1D for ; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:19:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so665630uge.37 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.232.9 with SMTP id e9mr792666ugh.49.1212707980627; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.99.2 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:19:40 -0700 From: "Murray Stokely" To: "Alaksiej C" In-Reply-To: <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> Cc: scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:19:42 -0000 Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that number really give you? The number of people using sysinstall that choose to participate in this program? Somewhat interesting I guess, but that number is very different from the number of computers running FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors to know how many machines they are running. The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to champion. - Murray On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C wrote: > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington > wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> > Hash: SHA1 >> > >> > >> > >> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, >> with a >> > break down as follows: >> > >> > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts >> > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts >> > DesktopBSD 2 662 hosts >> > NetBSD 108 hosts >> > MirBSD 68 hosts >> > OpenBSD 59 hosts >> > DragonFly 27 hosts >> > MidnightBSD 22 hosts >> > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts >> > >> >> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the >> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's >> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the >> other participants (6 more now) are:-) >> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. >> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable >> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD >> that there are FreeBSD? >> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to >> be submitted. >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >> Nairobi,KE >> +254733744121/+254722743223 >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >> >> "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" >> --from a /. post >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 00:02:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1441065670 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@belngo.info) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0508FC1B for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ac@belngo.info) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so657348fkk.11 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.147.13 with SMTP id z13mr90478mkn.155.1212710568624; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.125.110.4 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5709ce310806051702i7539e6a7wf103e37012ff9d23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:02:48 +0300 From: "Alaksiej C" To: "Murray Stokely" In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:02:51 -0000 IMHO, you are partly right. In regard of FreeBSD at all, right now, those numbers are misleading (it's not possible to use it for any research) and unimpressive (it's not possible to use it for PR). Yet, for the guys from PC-BSD team it is already useful. Their users quantity reflected by bsdstats should be almost correct. And it has some potential. If bsdstats will become more usual and numbers will grow, than *probably* it would be enough for some advertising, at least in the following form: Accordingly to bsdstats number of FreeBSD users has grown by 12%, blah-blah... And (let's dream :) ) some social thing could be incorporated in it, like voluntary registration in a global db, so you would be able to be connected by/connect to ppl, who runs FreeBSD in your location. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Murray Stokely wrote: > Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small > fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that > number really give you? The number of people using sysinstall that > choose to participate in this program? Somewhat interesting I guess, > but that number is very different from the number of computers running > FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. > > The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think > misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to > champion. > > - Murray > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C wrote: > > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in sysinstall. > > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of > > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier > wrote: > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> > Hash: SHA1 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, > >> with a > >> > break down as follows: > >> > > >> > PC-BSD 14 715 hosts > >> > FreeBSD 6 331 hosts > >> > DesktopBSD 2 662 hosts > >> > NetBSD 108 hosts > >> > MirBSD 68 hosts > >> > OpenBSD 59 hosts > >> > DragonFly 27 hosts > >> > MidnightBSD 22 hosts > >> > GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts > >> > > >> > >> I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the > >> number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's > >> something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the > >> other participants (6 more now) are:-) > >> Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > >> I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > >> the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > >> that there are FreeBSD? > >> For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to > >> be submitted. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > >> Nairobi,KE > >> +254733744121/+254722743223 > >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >> > >> "Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards!" > >> --from a /. post > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > >> " > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 01:23:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2298106564A for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735EF8FC13 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so458605ywe.13 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:23:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=EdDAg8q3zMGmc9rd6VnktwdydBAYn4kbAStmux09a9Q=; b=coUbpp+ol7uN52A3nuxq5SE7I7L0PezP8lwUWr2UO5shsnYpdi0aznXVxrQ3NRle3q GOkCOGQuW0a/FyRCLeNX0Q8B23GqNdDPnmilchbmKdLxW8oalIfzSs656/JvTa+4Upvl xhVfYW9pIQkUpW3hf1GqA1LSr4cwg6u+zOeQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=HhevlR3ivGrrRQRHQgc2JfkSaZZZfIQGFcA/AQ34kK0rcL5ztGD/QFsVhHbZYssFST eRWJ5ZNXjCYJxvbjBhOcsxFdvTS9yolp6ZZspLtYENmm4vPeVCkdGDxDAulT8LL9eb3A glSn0YOd9c+AVBcbAkJDMZW3WrRm0zN2fVna0= Received: by 10.151.154.12 with SMTP id g12mr2693098ybo.110.1212715429762; Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 103-120-245-190.fibertel.com.ar ( [190.245.120.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm4313722ywd.2.2008.06.05.18.23.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:23:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:23:45 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> <5709ce310806051702i7539e6a7wf103e37012ff9d23@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5709ce310806051702i7539e6a7wf103e37012ff9d23@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806052223.45483.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:23:52 -0000 On Thursday 05 June 2008 21:02:48 Alaksiej C wrote: > And (let's dream :) ) some social thing could be incorporated in it, like > voluntary registration in a global db, so you would be able to be connected > by/connect to ppl, who runs FreeBSD in your location. One of the coolest ideas I've heard in a long time ... -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 01:48:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C501065675 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:48:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3248E8FC16 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46796168ADB1; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:48:31 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27332-04; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:48:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from fserv.hub.org (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3FA168AB3F; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:48:30 -0300 (ADT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (unknown [192.168.1.2]) by fserv.hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC37C4EFE1; Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:48:34 -0300 (ADT) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:45:35 -0300 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Murray Stokely , Alaksiej C Message-ID: <369601C8A6F0F076F96FF9BB@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:48:31 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:19:40 -0700 Murray Stokely wrote: > Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. But, there is nothing on the site (or in the database, for that matter), that links a host (or set of) to any specific domain, IP or company ... netcraft does this, we don't ... so there is no way fo rsomeone to know *what*, or how many, a competitor was running ... this was as key design requirement put forth by oodles of security conscious admin on these lists when the project first started ... - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhIlr8ACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNysQCdGC/QlbytX7vipTSKZVWj9273 8BgAn0J9w9sbGiGtsLoiWP7WBjgIRH3S =gal1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 03:05:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF34B1065748 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5368FC17 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:05:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 552185098B; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:46:38 +0100 (BST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tlz222Sp0jtu; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:46:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (bast.unixathome.org [72.78.223.75]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9357508CA; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 03:46:24 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <5709ce310806051612k56f5f88ao2bd7c33a0ca1b2e2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9EE9300C-B3D1-4C7F-9C06-A79D5C4796EE@langille.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dan Langille Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:45:55 -0400 To: "Alaksiej C" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:05:27 -0000 On Jun 5, 2008, at 7:12 PM, Alaksiej C wrote: > I think it would be nice to have "Enable bsdstats" option in > sysinstall. > Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and > installation of > bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware > of it. I'm sure patches would be gratefully accepted. Go for it. You just volunteered. -- Dan Langille -- http://www.langille.org/ From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 07:15:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D5B1065672 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:15:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CBA8FC18 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:15:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A558B.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.85.139]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5670G1A074380 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:00:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m566u6te001648 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:56:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m566u1VL077970 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 08:56:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200806060656.m566u1VL077970@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:19:40 PDT." <2a7894eb0806051619s68d3b592m30207d5158546ec1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 08:56:01 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:15:33 -0000 > FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their > own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors > to know how many machines they are running. Some companies wont want their competitors, &/or suppliers/ clients to even know What OS's they run, let alone how many. Some government departments too (whose `competitors' could include foreign governments, terrorists, thieves, & civil liberties groups etc). I installed on 1 of 3 public servers, but not on firewalls or internals. Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 07:48:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27D931065682 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zafer@aydogan.de) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21F38FC1D for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zafer@aydogan.de) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so507092ywe.13 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.9.1 with SMTP id m1mr2895382ybi.247.1212736801530; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.15.2 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 00:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <274190120806060020t4b445a6fw7d70a6b4a3ae7249@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 09:20:01 +0200 From: "Zafer Aydogan" To: "Murray Stokely" In-Reply-To: <2a7894eb0806051614q366b4373sd8088829a0631592@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <991123400806050631s689fa9adp7ec073ea48025595@mail.gmail.com> <2a7894eb0806051614q366b4373sd8088829a0631592@mail.gmail.com> Cc: scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, Odhiambo Washington , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 07:48:38 -0000 2008/6/6, Murray Stokely : > Hi Marc, can you please post these individually to different lists > next time rather than one massive cross-post? > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > > Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. > > I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable > > the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD > > that there are FreeBSD? > > > Yes I should think that is pretty obvious. =) I would expect that > Yahoo! alone has ~2 orders of magnitude more FreeBSD servers than what > is represented there. > > These numbers have basically no correlation with the number of > installed instances of these operating systems. Anyone interested in > this effort should submit patches to optionally install/enable this > functionality in the installer of the various operating systems > > > - Murray > Why is this info crossposted on so much lists ? That's really annoying, beside the fact that the data is useless. Cheers, Zafer.