From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 08:57:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1088A106568E; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980C88FC14; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:57:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KowlE-0003vI-Q9; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:57:12 +0200 Received: from maf2d.m.pppool.de ([89.49.175.45]:62894 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KowlE-0005b4-Ig; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:57:12 +0200 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:57:11 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Fabian Wenk Message-ID: <20081012105711.33009734@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <48F11FD6.7050007@wenks.ch> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> <20081011164529.198f32c6@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> <48F11FD6.7050007@wenks.ch> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:57:15 -0000 On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:51:18 +0200 Fabian Wenk wrote: > Hello Jeremy > > On 11.10.08 18:52, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > Could the problem be specific to certain firmware revisions on the > > cards? > > Some other idea, which versions of FreeBSD/amd64 are affected? > Only 8-CURRENT, or also 6.x- and/or 7.x-RELEASE? > > As far as I have seen from the reports, it does only happen with > more then 3.5 GB RAM and with SCSI disks. > > I do have a system with FreeBSD/amd64 6.3-RELEASE with 4 GB RAM > and an Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (ahc) with only a tape > drive connected. The disks are on an Areca RAID controller. Access > to the disks and the tape drive does work just fine without any > crashes. > This is interesting because the 29160 is exactly the controller with which I had all my problems, but I was running it with disks only. Maybe Scott, or someone, has fixed it in the meantime? I haven't tried to use the full 4 GB in my box since January since I can't afford data corruption. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 09:01:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78421065687; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout4.freenet.de (mout4.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599B28FC13; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KowpD-0003S6-0b; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:01:19 +0200 Received: from maf2d.m.pppool.de ([89.49.175.45]:17140 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KowpC-0001Q1-Pu; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:01:18 +0200 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:01:15 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081012110115.5dccbc32@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> <20081011164529.198f32c6@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Scott Long , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:01:22 -0000 On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:52:50 -0700 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: [big snip] > Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? > > Let's break down what we know for sure at this point: > > aac(4) - not affected > aha(4) - unknown > ahb(4) - unknown > ahc(4) - affected > ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread I asked Scott whether he thought ahd would be affected, but he never responded. I was thinking about getting a PCIe controller but then I dropped the idea due to lack of funds for experimentation. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 09:00:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929721065697 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516598FC15 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:00:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9C907Vi063797 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:00:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m9C907b2063796; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:00:07 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:00:07 GMT Message-Id: <200810120900.m9C907b2063796@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: "Paul van Berlo" X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:20:35 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/127484: [timecounters] Drift problem with FreeBSD 7.0 and 7.1 PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul van Berlo List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 09:00:07 -0000 The following reply was made to PR amd64/127484; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Paul van Berlo" To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org, tg@swox.com Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/127484: [timecounters] Drift problem with FreeBSD 7.0 and 7.1 PRERELEASE Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:50:55 +0200 Hi, the issue I was seeing is solved. It appears this is due to a specific BIOS setting (FSB Spread Spectrum), which was set to 'Auto' in my case. I disabled this, and now my clock runs absolutely fine. There should not be any side effects with disabling this option AFAIK. Thanks. Best regards, Paul van Berlo From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 17:32:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A411065687; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from constantine.ticketswitch.com (constantine.ticketswitch.com [IPv6:2002:57e0:1d4e:1::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7950A8FC0C; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from dilbert.rattatosk ([10.64.50.6] helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by constantine.ticketswitch.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kp4nd-0000Mt-7S; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:32:13 +0100 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kp4nd-000CX9-5S; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:32:13 +0100 To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de, scottl@samsco.org In-Reply-To: <48F22245.1030201@samsco.org> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:32:13 +0100 Cc: koitsu@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:32:15 -0000 > Sorry for not responding back in Jan. I have a hard time recommending > the 29320/39320 cards because of the long history they have with > incompatibilities with certain U320 drives. I don't think that the Out of interest, what cards would you recommend ? I have just started running 4 drives off a 29320, and it does the "dump" thing on boot, so I was thinking of replacing it with another PCI-X card. > driver will be affected by memory size, but I haven't run it in several > years, and it could have rotted like ahc apparently did (though I still > have a hard time imagining how the rot could have taken place, hardly > anything has changed in the driver over the years). I have a hard time beliving these don't work either - mainly because I am running a 4GB system with ahc (and now ahd) in it and have had no problems at all. Certainly Adaptec cards are so common that if there was something majorly broken in that driver we would be seeing a lot more reports of corruption surely ? -pete. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 19:04:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF99E106568B; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout3.freenet.de (mout3.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E5E8FC16; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1Kp6Eu-000812-W0; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:04:29 +0200 Received: from maf2d.m.pppool.de ([89.49.175.45]:40930 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1Kp6Eu-0005Qk-KP; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:04:28 +0200 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:04:25 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Pete French Message-ID: <20081012210425.2e831414@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: References: <48F22245.1030201@samsco.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: scottl@samsco.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, koitsu@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:04:36 -0000 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:32:13 +0100 Pete French wrote: > > Sorry for not responding back in Jan. I have a hard time recommending > > the 29320/39320 cards because of the long history they have with > > incompatibilities with certain U320 drives. I don't think that the > > Out of interest, what cards would you recommend ? I have just > started running 4 drives off a 29320, and it does the "dump" thing > on boot, so I was thinking of replacing it with another PCI-X card. > > > driver will be affected by memory size, but I haven't run it in several > > years, and it could have rotted like ahc apparently did (though I still > > have a hard time imagining how the rot could have taken place, hardly > > anything has changed in the driver over the years). > > I have a hard time beliving these don't work either - mainly because I > am running a 4GB system with ahc (and now ahd) in it and have had no > problems at all. Certainly Adaptec cards are so common that if there > was something majorly broken in that driver we would be seeing a lot > more reports of corruption surely ? > Maybe it's BIOS related? I have a new mobo from a different vendor where I could give it a try and see if the corruption goes away. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 16:50:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204C61065688; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7481D8FC12; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9CGAaPG008026; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:10:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <48F2217C.9010000@samsco.org> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:10:36 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> <20081011164529.198f32c6@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:27:57 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:50:35 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:26:29PM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote: >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:45:29PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >>>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:13:16 -0700 >>>> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:37 -0300 >>>>>> JoaoBR wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried MBs as Asus, Abit and Gigabyte all same result >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same hardware with SATA works perfect >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same hardware with scsi up to 3.5Gigs installed works perfect >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what calls my attention that all this MBs do not have the >>>>>>> memroy hole remapping feature so the complete 4gigs are >>>>>>> available what normally was not the case with amd64 Mbs for the >>>>>>> Athlon 64 CPUs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> some has an opinion if this is a freebsd issue or MB falure or >>>>>>> scsi drv problem? >>>>>>> >>>>>> It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to limit >>>>>> memory to 3.5 GB. >>>>> What you're saying is that Adaptec and LSI Logic SCSI controllers behave >>>>> badly (and can cause data loss) on amd64 systems which contain more than >>>>> 3.5GB of RAM. This is a very big claim. >>>>> >>>>> Have you talked to Scott Long about this? >>>>> >>>>> Please expand on this, and provide evidence or references. I need to >>>>> document this in my Wiki if it is indeed true. >>>>> >>>> See the freebsd-scsi thread with Subject "data corruption with ahc driver >>>> and 4GB of memory using a FBSD-8 64-bit installation?" from Wed, 30 Jan >>>> 2008. >>>> >>>> This was for ahc, but the bit-rot which Scott mentions in his reply might >>>> also apply to the LSI Logic controllers. >>>> >>>> Basically the driver doesn't correctly handle DMA above 4GB. Since the PCI >>>> hole gets mapped above 4GB it causes problems. the (S)ATA drivers don't seem >>>> to have this problem. >>> Thank you -- this is the exact information I was looking for. >>> >>> I will update my Wiki page to reflect this quite major problem. >>> >> I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS >> controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac >> driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no >> such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to >> document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > > Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? > I can personal vouch for MPT and MFI drivers working just fine with >4GB. > Let's break down what we know for sure at this point: > > aac(4) - not affected Works fine > aha(4) - unknown > ahb(4) - unknown These two will likely be using bounce buffers and should work, albeit slowly. > ahc(4) - affected > ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread Both ahc and ahd were designed _AND_TESTED_ to work with >4GB. If they don't work anymore, it's due to unintended bitrot. > asr(4) - unknown Danger! Achtung! Beware of Dog! > ips(4) - unknown I'm pretty sure this works just fine. > mpt(4) - not affected > mfi(4) - unknown Both work just fine > sym(4) - unknown This has had problems in the past, but I think that it might have been fixed recently You forgot to mention isp(4), which also works just fine. > > Could the problem be specific to certain firmware revisions on the > cards? ahc/ahd use custom "firmware" that is part of the driver. Their BIOS can be flashed, but that does little to affect OS operation of the card. So, "firmware revisions" has nothing to do with whatever this problem is. Please do keep in mind that 32bit vs 64bit support, and by correlary, >4GB support, is something that is completely isolated on a per-driver basis. Trying to draw patterns between drivers to say, "FreeBSD SCSI support is broken," is not valid. In fact, traditionally, SCSI drivers in general have had the best support because they are so much more common in the high-end systems that need the support. Out of your whole list, the only card to explicitly stay away from is the asr(4) family, but that's been known for years. If ahc and/or ahd has problems, we need someone willing to dig into code and trace through the DMA path. Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 16:50:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE25C1065690; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA2B8FC1A; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:50:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9CGDv9O008048; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:13:58 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <48F22245.1030201@samsco.org> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:13:57 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> <20081011164529.198f32c6@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> <20081012110115.5dccbc32@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20081012110115.5dccbc32@ernst.jennejohn.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:28:27 +0000 Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:50:36 -0000 Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:52:50 -0700 > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > [big snip] >> Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? >> >> Let's break down what we know for sure at this point: >> >> aac(4) - not affected >> aha(4) - unknown >> ahb(4) - unknown >> ahc(4) - affected >> ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread > > I asked Scott whether he thought ahd would be affected, but he never > responded. I was thinking about getting a PCIe controller but then > I dropped the idea due to lack of funds for experimentation. > Sorry for not responding back in Jan. I have a hard time recommending the 29320/39320 cards because of the long history they have with incompatibilities with certain U320 drives. I don't think that the driver will be affected by memory size, but I haven't run it in several years, and it could have rotted like ahc apparently did (though I still have a hard time imagining how the rot could have taken place, hardly anything has changed in the driver over the years). Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 12 18:00:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E6C1065694 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8A68FC13 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9CI0Bx6089914 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:00:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9CI0Bvr089913; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:00:11 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:00:11 GMT Message-Id: <200810121800.m9CI0Bvr089913@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: Torbjorn Granlund X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:28:36 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/127484: [timecounters] Drift problem with FreeBSD 7.0 and 7.1 PRERELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Torbjorn Granlund List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:00:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR amd64/127484; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Torbjorn Granlund To: "Paul van Berlo" Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: amd64/127484: [timecounters] Drift problem with FreeBSD 7.0 and 7.1 PRERELEASE Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:40:24 +0200 "Paul van Berlo" writes: the issue I was seeing is solved. It appears this is due to a specific BIOS setting (FSB Spread Spectrum), which was set to 'Auto' in my case. I disabled this, and now my clock runs absolutely fine. There should not be any side effects with disabling this option AFAIK. =20=20 Thanks! My ASUS board didn't have any such option, but it had some "Overclocking" option which was set to "Auto". I changed this to "Standard". The clock now runs about 20 times closer to reality, which is enough for ntpd to work. I wonder if there is anything FreeBSD can do to work around these silly overclock options. One would really wish the BIOS defaults would be more conservative, and leave it to the tinkerers to play around with overclock options. --=20 Torbj=F6rn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 05:42:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E084E106568B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ADD08FC1F for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id S5Nn1a0020SCNGk595iu8R; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:42:54 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id S5it1a0012P6wsM3V5itkl; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:42:54 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n07WsRzhiL8A:10 a=ORw6YhE72dwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=FIC0NYV89rIrq2IsaXoA:9 a=-j2gOyeLh2ubnQ0AzQpB7ojYKaIA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 189CAC9419; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:42:53 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: David Peall Message-ID: <20081013054253.GA10367@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:42:56 -0000 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:38:58AM +0200, David Peall wrote: > > aac(4) - not affected > > aha(4) - unknown > > ahb(4) - unknown > > ahc(4) - affected > > ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread > > asr(4) - unknown > > ips(4) - unknown > > mpt(4) - not affected > > mfi(4) - unknown > > sym(4) - unknown > > I'm using amd64 with 8Gb RAM with the following: > mfi0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem > 0xfc480000-0xfc4bffff,0xfc440000-0xfc47ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 > mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 2.00 > mfi0: 4914 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started > (PCI ID 0060/1000/1f0c/1028) > mfi0: 4915 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 1.11.52-0349 > mfi0: 4917 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Package version 6.0.1-0080 > > No problems. Okay, I'm pulling this stuff off the Wiki, because so far there hasn't been any confirmation of the problem being wide-spread except in the case of asr(4) (which is supposedly evil. I fully trust Scott on this one!) Thanks everyone! -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 06:19:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDF91065691 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:19:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@esn.org.za) Received: from serendipity.wcape.school.za (seren.esn.org.za [196.211.28.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B41A8FC17 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@esn.org.za) Received: from intsika.ct.esn.org.za ([196.211.28.250] helo=ct.esn.org.za) by serendipity.wcape.school.za with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1KpG8y-0000T5-BA; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:39:00 +0200 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:38:58 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition Thread-Index: AckrwgnbiqHM5djhS+GfS010TkOgmQBM4PHQ References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br><20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org><20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan><20081011164529.198f32c6@ernst.jennejohn.org><20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan><48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> From: "David Peall" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" , "Adam McDougall" X-Antivirus-Scanned: Clean by seren.wcsn.org.za X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:23:37 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: RE: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:19:02 -0000 > aac(4) - not affected > aha(4) - unknown > ahb(4) - unknown > ahc(4) - affected > ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread > asr(4) - unknown > ips(4) - unknown > mpt(4) - not affected > mfi(4) - unknown > sym(4) - unknown I'm using amd64 with 8Gb RAM with the following: mfi0: port 0xec00-0xecff mem 0xfc480000-0xfc4bffff,0xfc440000-0xfc47ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1 mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 2.00 mfi0: 4914 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware initialization started (PCI ID 0060/1000/1f0c/1028) mfi0: 4915 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Firmware version 1.11.52-0349 mfi0: 4917 (boot + 3s/0x0020/info) - Package version 6.0.1-0080 No problems. -- David Peall :: IT Manager e-Schools' Network :: http://www.esn.org.za/ Phone +27 (021) 674-9140 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > stable@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Chadwick > Sent: 11 October 2008 06:53 PM > To: Adam McDougall > Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition >=20 > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:26:29PM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote: > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:45:29PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:13:16 -0700 > >>> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:37 -0300 > >>>>> JoaoBR wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I tried MBs as Asus, Abit and Gigabyte all same result > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Same hardware with SATA works perfect > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Same hardware with scsi up to 3.5Gigs installed works perfect > >>>>>> > >>>>>> what calls my attention that all this MBs do not have the > >>>>>> memroy hole remapping feature so the complete 4gigs are > >>>>>> available what normally was not the case with amd64 Mbs for the > >>>>>> Athlon 64 CPUs > >>>>>> > >>>>>> some has an opinion if this is a freebsd issue or MB falure or > >>>>>> scsi drv problem? > >>>>>> > >>>>> It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to > limit > >>>>> memory to 3.5 GB. > >>>> What you're saying is that Adaptec and LSI Logic SCSI controllers behave > >>>> badly (and can cause data loss) on amd64 systems which contain more than > >>>> 3.5GB of RAM. This is a very big claim. > >>>> > >>>> Have you talked to Scott Long about this? > >>>> > >>>> Please expand on this, and provide evidence or references. I need to > >>>> document this in my Wiki if it is indeed true. > >>>> > >>> See the freebsd-scsi thread with Subject "data corruption with ahc driver > >>> and 4GB of memory using a FBSD-8 64-bit installation?" from Wed, 30 Jan > >>> 2008. > >>> > >>> This was for ahc, but the bit-rot which Scott mentions in his reply might > >>> also apply to the LSI Logic controllers. > >>> > >>> Basically the driver doesn't correctly handle DMA above 4GB. Since the > PCI > >>> hole gets mapped above 4GB it causes problems. the (S)ATA drivers don't > seem > >>> to have this problem. > >> > >> Thank you -- this is the exact information I was looking for. > >> > >> I will update my Wiki page to reflect this quite major problem. > >> > > > > I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > > controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > > driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > > such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to > > document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. >=20 > Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? >=20 > Let's break down what we know for sure at this point: >=20 > aac(4) - not affected > aha(4) - unknown > ahb(4) - unknown > ahc(4) - affected > ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread > asr(4) - unknown > ips(4) - unknown > mpt(4) - not affected > mfi(4) - unknown > sym(4) - unknown >=20 > Could the problem be specific to certain firmware revisions on the > cards? >=20 > Also adding Scott Long to the CC list. >=20 > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 11:06:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B48BE1065687 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEF18FC21 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:06:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9DB6kfB029363 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:06:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9DB6k4k029359 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:06:46 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:06:46 GMT Message-Id: <200810131106.m9DB6k4k029359@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:23:52 +0000 Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:06:46 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o amd64/127787 amd64 [lor] 3 lock LOR in recent CURRENT o amd64/127640 amd64 GCC will not build shared libraries with -fprofile-gen o amd64/127492 amd64 [zfs] System hang on ZFS input-output o amd64/127484 amd64 [timecounters] Drift problem with FreeBSD 7.0 and 7.1 o amd64/127451 amd64 [scheduler] incorrect load on quad core o amd64/127397 amd64 [amd64] 32bit application on FreeBSD-6.3 amd64 gets SI s amd64/127276 amd64 ldd(1) invokes linux yes o amd64/127129 amd64 mdconfig(8) is core dumping with Segmentation Fault 11 f amd64/125943 amd64 Serial Consoles do not work on amd64 freebsd o amd64/125873 amd64 [smbd] [panic] Repeated kernel panics, trap 12 page fa o amd64/125820 amd64 [k8temp] [patch] sysctl dev.k8temp.*.sensor1.* are inv o amd64/125002 amd64 [install] amd64, SATA hard disks not detected o amd64/124432 amd64 [panic] 7.0-STABLE panic: invalbuf: dirty bufs o amd64/124134 amd64 [kernel] The kernel doesn't follow the calling convent o amd64/123562 amd64 [install] FreeBSD amd64 not installs o amd64/123520 amd64 [ahd] unable to boot from net while using ahd o amd64/123456 amd64 fstat(1): /usr/bin/fstat shows error messages and hang f amd64/123275 amd64 [cbb] [pcmcia] cbb/pcmcia drivers on amd64 failure [re o kern/122782 amd64 [modules] accf_http.ko kernel module is not loadable o amd64/122695 amd64 [cpufreq] Lack of cpufreq control using amd64 eith cor o amd64/122624 amd64 unusable minimal installation of FreeBSD-7.0 o amd64/122549 amd64 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-bootonly.iso doesn't work w/ serial o amd64/122468 amd64 Compile problems after upgrading to 7.0 o amd64/122174 amd64 [panic] 7.0 no longer includes "device atpic" so fails o amd64/121590 amd64 [est] [p4tcc] [acpi_perf] setting dev.cpu.0.freq somet o amd64/121439 amd64 [boot] Installation of FreeBSD 7.0 fails: ACPI problem o amd64/120202 amd64 [amd64] [patch] [panic] kernel panic at start_all_aps, o amd64/119936 amd64 [install] FreeBSD 7.0-RC1 amd64 and i386 installer dis o amd64/119591 amd64 [amd64] [patch] time_t on 64-bit architecture o amd64/117418 amd64 [hang] FreeBSD 6.2 crash on amd64 4400+ with ssh o amd64/117316 amd64 [acpi] ACPI lockups on SuperMicro motherboard o amd64/117296 amd64 [ata] I don`t see second SATA IDE on VIA VT8237A a amd64/117186 amd64 [modules] kldload Unsupported file type on STABLE amd6 s amd64/116689 amd64 [request] support for MSI K9MM-V f amd64/116670 amd64 [ata] onboard SATA RAID1 controllers not supported for o amd64/116620 amd64 [hang] ifconfig spins when creating carp(4) device on f amd64/116457 amd64 [install] can't install freebsd on dv9420us o amd64/116322 amd64 [panic] At start fsck on current, the system panics o amd64/116159 amd64 [panic] Panic while debugging on CURRENT s amd64/115815 amd64 [ata] [request] Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3 Motherboard unsupp o amd64/115581 amd64 [Makefile] [patch] -mfancy-math-387 has no effect o amd64/115194 amd64 LCD screen remains blank after Dell XPS M1210 lid is c o amd64/114270 amd64 [cpufreq] cpufreq doesnt work when compiled in to kern o amd64/114111 amd64 [nfs] System crashes while writing on NFS-mounted shar f amd64/113021 amd64 [re] ASUS M2A-VM onboard NIC does not work o amd64/112222 amd64 [libc] 32-bit libc incorrectly converts some FP number f amd64/111992 amd64 [boot] BTX failed - HP Laptop dv2315nr o amd64/110655 amd64 [threads] 32 bit threaded applications crash on amd64 o amd64/110599 amd64 [geli] geli attach to gmirror device hangs and cannot s amd64/108861 amd64 [nve] nve(4) driver on FreeBSD 6.2 AMD64 does not work o amd64/106186 amd64 [panic] panic in swap_pager_swap_init (amd64/smp/6.2-p f amd64/105629 amd64 [re] TrendNet TEG-BUSR 10/100/1000 disables itself on f amd64/105531 amd64 [ata] gigabyte GA-M51GM-S2G / nVidia nForce 430 - does f amd64/105514 amd64 [boot] FreeBSD/amd64 - Fails to boot on HP Pavilion dv f amd64/103259 amd64 [ar] Cannot use ataraid on nvidia nForce4+amd64 o amd64/102716 amd64 ex with no argument in an xterm gets SIGSEGV o amd64/97337 amd64 [dri] xorg reboots system if dri module is enabled o amd64/95888 amd64 [ata] kernel: ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying on HP f amd64/94989 amd64 [boot] BTX Halts on Sun Fire X2100 w/6.1-BETA4 (amd64) o amd64/94677 amd64 [panic] panic in amd64 install at non-root user creati o amd64/93961 amd64 [busdma] Problem in bounce buffer handling in sys/amd6 o amd64/92337 amd64 [em] FreeBSD 6.0 Release Intel Pro 1000 MT em1 no buff f amd64/91492 amd64 [boot] BTX halted o amd64/91405 amd64 [asr] [panic] Kernel panic caused by asr on 6.0-amd64 o amd64/89501 amd64 [install] System crashes on install using ftp on local o amd64/88790 amd64 [panic] kernel panic on first boot (after the FreeBSD o amd64/88568 amd64 [panic] 6.0-RELEASE install cd does not boot with usb o amd64/87977 amd64 [busdma] [panic] amd64 busdma dflt_lock called (by ata o amd64/87689 amd64 [powerd] [hang] powerd hangs SMP Opteron 244 5-STABLE o amd64/87316 amd64 [vge] "vge0 attach returned 6" on FreeBSD 6.0-RC1 amd6 o amd64/87305 amd64 [smp] Dual Opteron / FreeBSD 5 & 6 / powerd results in f amd64/87258 amd64 [smp] [boot] cannot boot with SMP and Areca ARC-1160 r f amd64/86080 amd64 [radeon] [hang] radeon DRI causes system hang on amd64 s amd64/85273 amd64 [install] FreeBSD (NetBSD or OpenBSD) not install on l o amd64/78406 amd64 [panic]AMD64 w/ SCSI: issue 'rm -r /usr/ports' and sys o amd64/76136 amd64 [hang] system halts before reboot o amd64/74747 amd64 [panic] System panic on shutdown when process will not o amd64/73322 amd64 [msdosfs] [hang] unarchiving /etc to msdosfs locks up 78 problems total. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:16:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FF51065686 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout3.freenet.de (mout3.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58848FC15 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:15:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.24] (helo=14.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpML7-0003yq-WF for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:15:57 +0200 Received: from mad62.m.pppool.de ([89.49.173.98]:29168 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 14.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpML7-0002Hd-O5 for freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:15:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:15:56 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20081013141556.7b7a0806@ernst.jennejohn.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: how does the kernel go about mapping memory for amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:16:00 -0000 I have a new mother board, a Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H, which shows really weird behavior under FreeBSD when I have 4GB of memory and a PCI card plugged into it. With an Adaptec 29160 plugged in FreeBSD sees only 3GB and there is _no_ memory mapped above 4GB. This seems like a bug in the BIOS. With no PCI card plugged in FreeBSD sees memory mapped above 4GB and almost 4GB are available. Note that this board has graphics in the chipset (AMD 780G) which uses UMA (128 MB) for the video buffer. This behavior leads me to believe that FreeBSD is only using the memory mapping hints provided by the BIOS and is not sizing and mapping memory itself. Is that correct? --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:36:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE470106569D; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154948FC17; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:36:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DCaB0Q037488; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:36:11 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: Jeremy Chadwick Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:35:10 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810130935.10570.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER, RDNS_DYNAMIC, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION, TW_DR autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:36:21 -0000 On Saturday 11 October 2008 07:13:16 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:37 -0300 > > > > JoaoBR wrote: > > > I tried MBs as Asus, Abit and Gigabyte all same result > > > > > > Same hardware with SATA works perfect > > > > > > Same hardware with scsi up to 3.5Gigs installed works perfect > > > > > > what calls my attention that all this MBs do not have the memroy hole > > > remapping feature so the complete 4gigs are available what normally w= as > > > not the case with amd64 Mbs for the Athlon 64 CPUs > > > > > > some has an opinion if this is a freebsd issue or MB falure or scsi d= rv > > > problem? > > > > It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to lim= it > > memory to 3.5 GB. > > What you're saying is that Adaptec and LSI Logic SCSI controllers behave > badly (and can cause data loss) on amd64 systems which contain more than > 3.5GB of RAM. This is a very big claim. > > Have you talked to Scott Long about this? > > Please expand on this, and provide evidence or references. I need to > document this in my Wiki if it is indeed true. I have an Asus AM2 Mb which support ECC mem and at least with the Adaptec r= aid=20 card (aacd) the problem does not happen (when ECC support enabled) I did 10= x=20 buildworld, ahc and mpt still same issue, first build cracks the data on=20 da0s1a >On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: >=20 > It's a driver problem. =A0If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to lim= it > memory to 3.5 GB. well indeed with less then 4G installed it works flawless, so the differenc= e I=20 see is that former athln64 MBs had memory hole remap options or when 4Gig=20 installed they only gave 3.something to the OS even under amd64 - this is N= OT=20 the case with the AM2 MBs which should support up to 8/16Mb onboard but wth= =20 this amount freebsd amd64 does not even boot when a scsi adaptor is install= ed =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:39:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F81106568A; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B0328FC14; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DCcn5c037527; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:38:49 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:37:48 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810130937.48093.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER, RDNS_DYNAMIC, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION, TW_DR autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:39:01 -0000 On Saturday 11 October 2008 13:26:29 Adam McDougall wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:45:29PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:13:16 -0700 > >> > >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:37 -0300 > >>>> > >>>> JoaoBR wrote: > >>>>> I tried MBs as Asus, Abit and Gigabyte all same result > >>>>> > >>>>> Same hardware with SATA works perfect > >>>>> > >>>>> Same hardware with scsi up to 3.5Gigs installed works perfect > >>>>> > >>>>> what calls my attention that all this MBs do not have the memroy ho= le > >>>>> remapping feature so the complete 4gigs are available what normally > >>>>> was not the case with amd64 Mbs for the Athlon 64 CPUs > >>>>> > >>>>> some has an opinion if this is a freebsd issue or MB falure or scsi > >>>>> drv problem? > >>>> > >>>> It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to > >>>> limit memory to 3.5 GB. > >>> > >>> What you're saying is that Adaptec and LSI Logic SCSI controllers > >>> behave badly (and can cause data loss) on amd64 systems which contain > >>> more than 3.5GB of RAM. This is a very big claim. > >>> > >>> Have you talked to Scott Long about this? > >>> > >>> Please expand on this, and provide evidence or references. I need to > >>> document this in my Wiki if it is indeed true. > >> > >> See the freebsd-scsi thread with Subject "data corruption with ahc > >> driver and 4GB of memory using a FBSD-8 64-bit installation?" from Wed, > >> 30 Jan 2008. > >> > >> This was for ahc, but the bit-rot which Scott mentions in his reply > >> might also apply to the LSI Logic controllers. > >> > >> Basically the driver doesn't correctly handle DMA above 4GB. Since the > >> PCI hole gets mapped above 4GB it causes problems. the (S)ATA drivers > >> don't seem to have this problem. > > > > Thank you -- this is the exact information I was looking for. > > > > I will update my Wiki page to reflect this quite major problem. > > I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to > document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > _______________________________________________ well this for sure is NOT a AM2 MB but any server MB which indeed run fine = as=20 Tyans, SMs and others I guess =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:40:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262C21065690 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BC58FC0C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SApu1a00R16LCl05ACgN4H; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:40:22 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SCgL1a00J2P6wsM3SCgLsx; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:40:21 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=cEdMfGylfGIA:10 a=-oiKNakfrREA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=y6pghArEQygj5ec9oL0A:9 a=AwHrvj8r8yNKgiV--6xhesnaBLIA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 33174C941C; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:40:20 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Gary Jennejohn Message-ID: <20081013124020.GA18797@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081013141556.7b7a0806@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081013141556.7b7a0806@ernst.jennejohn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: how does the kernel go about mapping memory for amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:40:23 -0000 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 02:15:56PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > I have a new mother board, a Gigabyte GA-MA78GPM-DS2H, which shows > really weird behavior under FreeBSD when I have 4GB of memory and a > PCI card plugged into it. > > With an Adaptec 29160 plugged in FreeBSD sees only 3GB and there is _no_ > memory mapped above 4GB. This seems like a bug in the BIOS. > > With no PCI card plugged in FreeBSD sees memory mapped above 4GB and > almost 4GB are available. > > Note that this board has graphics in the chipset (AMD 780G) which uses UMA > (128 MB) for the video buffer. > > This behavior leads me to believe that FreeBSD is only using the memory > mapping hints provided by the BIOS and is not sizing and mapping memory > itself. > > Is that correct? You might also try freebsd-hackers for this kind of thing, as it's pretty low-level. Does Linux and/or Windows exhibit the same problem? If so, I would open up a case with Gigabyte. This should be very easily reproducible, although I would not be surprised if they ask for you to send them your Adaptec controller. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:42:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A41106569B; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:42:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FE98FC21; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DCgCkl037933; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:42:12 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:41:11 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810130941.11706.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER, RDNS_DYNAMIC, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION, TW_DR autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:42:19 -0000 On Saturday 11 October 2008 13:52:50 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:26:29PM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote: > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:45:29PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:13:16 -0700 > >>> > >>> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:37 -0300 > >>>>> > >>>>> JoaoBR wrote: > >>>>>> I tried MBs as Asus, Abit and Gigabyte all same result > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Same hardware with SATA works perfect > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Same hardware with scsi up to 3.5Gigs installed works perfect > >>>>>> > >>>>>> what calls my attention that all this MBs do not have the > >>>>>> memroy hole remapping feature so the complete 4gigs are > >>>>>> available what normally was not the case with amd64 Mbs for the > >>>>>> Athlon 64 CPUs > >>>>>> > >>>>>> some has an opinion if this is a freebsd issue or MB falure or > >>>>>> scsi drv problem? > >>>>> > >>>>> It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to > >>>>> limit memory to 3.5 GB. > >>>> > >>>> What you're saying is that Adaptec and LSI Logic SCSI controllers > >>>> behave badly (and can cause data loss) on amd64 systems which contain > >>>> more than 3.5GB of RAM. This is a very big claim. > >>>> > >>>> Have you talked to Scott Long about this? > >>>> > >>>> Please expand on this, and provide evidence or references. I need to > >>>> document this in my Wiki if it is indeed true. > >>> > >>> See the freebsd-scsi thread with Subject "data corruption with ahc > >>> driver and 4GB of memory using a FBSD-8 64-bit installation?" from We= d, > >>> 30 Jan 2008. > >>> > >>> This was for ahc, but the bit-rot which Scott mentions in his reply > >>> might also apply to the LSI Logic controllers. > >>> > >>> Basically the driver doesn't correctly handle DMA above 4GB. Since t= he > >>> PCI hole gets mapped above 4GB it causes problems. the (S)ATA drivers > >>> don't seem to have this problem. > >> > >> Thank you -- this is the exact information I was looking for. > >> > >> I will update my Wiki page to reflect this quite major problem. > > > > I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > > controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > > driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > > such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to > > document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > > Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? > > Let's break down what we know for sure at this point: > > aac(4) - not affected > aha(4) - unknown > ahb(4) - unknown > ahc(4) - affected > ahd(4) - unknown; no one answered the OP's question in the thread > asr(4) - unknown > ips(4) - unknown > mpt(4) - not affected > mfi(4) - unknown > sym(4) - unknown > > Could the problem be specific to certain firmware revisions on the > cards? no, I tried different card versions AHD has the same problem AHC also AAC also MPT as well this is true for AM2 MBs but not true S939 and S940 MBs =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:44:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EBB106568C; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:44:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3128FC2A; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:44:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DCiMVq037979; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:44:23 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, gary.jennejohn@freenet.de Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:43:22 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <48F11FD6.7050007@wenks.ch> <20081012105711.33009734@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20081012105711.33009734@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810130943.22079.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER, RDNS_DYNAMIC,SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02,SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Fabian Wenk , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:44:28 -0000 On Sunday 12 October 2008 06:57:11 Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:51:18 +0200 > > Fabian Wenk wrote: > > Hello Jeremy > > > > On 11.10.08 18:52, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > Could the problem be specific to certain firmware revisions on the > > > cards? > > > > Some other idea, which versions of FreeBSD/amd64 are affected? > > Only 8-CURRENT, or also 6.x- and/or 7.x-RELEASE? > > > > As far as I have seen from the reports, it does only happen with > > more then 3.5 GB RAM and with SCSI disks. > > > > I do have a system with FreeBSD/amd64 6.3-RELEASE with 4 GB RAM > > and an Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (ahc) with only a tape > > drive connected. The disks are on an Areca RAID controller. Access > > to the disks and the tape drive does work just fine without any > > crashes. > > This is interesting because the 29160 is exactly the controller with > which I had all my problems, but I was running it with disks only. > > Maybe Scott, or someone, has fixed it in the meantime? I haven't > tried to use the full 4 GB in my box since January since I can't > afford data corruption. > I guess his MB is not an AM2 socket=20 =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:48:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8255D1065689; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:48:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AA28FC0C; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:48:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DCmUTK038470; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:48:30 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:47:28 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> <48F2217C.9010000@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <48F2217C.9010000@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810130947.28905.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER, RDNS_DYNAMIC, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02, SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION, TW_DR autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, Scott Long Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:48:38 -0000 On Sunday 12 October 2008 14:10:36 Scott Long wrote: > >> I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > >> controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > >> driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > >> such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to > >> document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > > > > Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? > > I can personal vouch for MPT and MFI drivers working just fine with >4GB. > let narrow this a little bit, are you talking about AM2 sockets?=20 because on AM2 the MPT drv is faulty as AHC, AHD and AACD with =3D> 4Gigs =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:50:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88BC1065693; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout3.freenet.de (mout3.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4D68FC29; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:50:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.17] (helo=7.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpMsz-0006J8-Az; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:50:57 +0200 Received: from mad62.m.pppool.de ([89.49.173.98]:23079 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 7.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpMsz-0007At-2o; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:50:57 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:50:54 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: JoaoBR Message-ID: <20081013145054.3b458aea@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <200810130935.10570.joao@matik.com.br> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011113057.7402300c@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081011101316.GA58119@icarus.home.lan> <200810130935.10570.joao@matik.com.br> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:51:00 -0000 On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:35:10 -0200 JoaoBR wrote: > On Saturday 11 October 2008 07:13:16 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to limit > > memory to 3.5 GB. > I probably should have written - it seems to be a problem with ahc. In general SCSI seems to work, as Scott has recently documented. But see below. > > well indeed with less then 4G installed it works flawless, so the difference I > see is that former athln64 MBs had memory hole remap options or when 4Gig > installed they only gave 3.something to the OS even under amd64 - this is NOT > the case with the AM2 MBs which should support up to 8/16Mb onboard but wth > this amount freebsd amd64 does not even boot when a scsi adaptor is installed > I'm beginning to believe that it's motherboard/BIOS related and not a general problem with ahc or any other SCSI driver. I can say that at least with my Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3 I observed data corruption with 4GB of memory installed and with the BIOS mapping a part of memory above 4GB. Forcing the kernel to use only 3.5GB solved the problem. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:52:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9222210656A2 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F6C8FC17 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SB1x1a00A0EPchoA3CsVYP; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:52:29 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SCsU1a00B2P6wsM8MCsUNF; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:52:29 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n07WsRzhiL8A:10 a=ORw6YhE72dwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=LvJYbIhkV0bVk4e3m-YA:9 a=JA0IpIjo1KnLzdfljRs6N0-zkwsA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8CCB5C9419; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:52:28 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081013125228.GA19035@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> <48F2217C.9010000@samsco.org> <200810130947.28905.joao@matik.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200810130947.28905.joao@matik.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:52:31 -0000 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:47:28AM -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Sunday 12 October 2008 14:10:36 Scott Long wrote: > > > >> I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > > >> controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > > >> driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > > >> such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to > > >> document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > > > > > > Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? > > > > I can personal vouch for MPT and MFI drivers working just fine with >4GB. > > > > let narrow this a little bit, are you talking about AM2 sockets? > > because on AM2 the MPT drv is faulty as AHC, AHD and AACD with => 4Gigs David, Fabian, and Adam -- are any of you using your cards in an AM2-based system? Also, I'm removing freebsd-stable from the list, since this appears to be mainly related to amd64 (not saying it's a FreeBSD problem, just saying it manifests itself so far on amd64). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 12:55:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36561065699; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from constantine.ticketswitch.com (constantine.ticketswitch.com [IPv6:2002:57e0:1d4e:1::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA3E8FC19; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from dilbert.rattatosk ([10.64.50.6] helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by constantine.ticketswitch.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KpMxG-0008rC-KL; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:22 +0100 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KpMxG-00033p-Iv; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:22 +0100 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, koitsu@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20081013125228.GA19035@icarus.home.lan> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:22 +0100 Cc: Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:55:24 -0000 > David, Fabian, and Adam -- are any of you using your cards in an > AM2-based system? This suddenly has ccaught my attention - I have one AM2 system, and it will not boot amd64, and will only boot i386 in safe mode. In both cases the problems appear to be when it probes my SCSI RAID card. Having said that, I had a different motherboard with the same parts on it which ran BSD fine. but this one appears not to, and is AM2. -pete. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 13:19:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3511065688; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:19:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87D18FC15; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DDJoVG041753; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:19:50 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, gary.jennejohn@freenet.de Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:18:49 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <200810130935.10570.joao@matik.com.br> <20081013145054.3b458aea@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20081013145054.3b458aea@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810131018.49543.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER, RDNS_DYNAMIC,SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02,SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:19:58 -0000 On Monday 13 October 2008 10:50:54 Gary Jennejohn wrote: > On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:35:10 -0200 > > JoaoBR wrote: > > On Saturday 11 October 2008 07:13:16 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have to > > > limit memory to 3.5 GB. > > I probably should have written - it seems to be a problem with ahc. In > general SCSI seems to work, as Scott has recently documented. But see > below. > > > well indeed with less then 4G installed it works flawless, so the > > difference I see is that former athln64 MBs had memory hole remap optio= ns > > or when 4Gig installed they only gave 3.something to the OS even under > > amd64 - this is NOT the case with the AM2 MBs which should support up to > > 8/16Mb onboard but wth this amount freebsd amd64 does not even boot when > > a scsi adaptor is installed > > I'm beginning to believe that it's motherboard/BIOS related and not a > general problem with ahc or any other SCSI driver. I can say that > at least with my Gigabyte GA-M61P-S3 I observed data corruption with > 4GB of memory installed and with the BIOS mapping a part of memory > above 4GB. > > Forcing the kernel to use only 3.5GB solved the problem. > exactly, I have the same MB and Gigabytes support changed Ideas with me, ev= en=20 released a newer bios version but at the end they insisted that it is an OS= =20 issue since this problem does not appear with windows and fedora =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 13:21:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70850106568B; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout4.freenet.de (mout4.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AAA8FC1E; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:21:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpNMW-0006EX-Bu; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:21:28 +0200 Received: from mad62.m.pppool.de ([89.49.173.98]:52290 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpNMW-0004Yb-3x; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:21:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:21:25 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Pete French Message-ID: <20081013152125.5558af36@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20081013125228.GA19035@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: koitsu@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:21:31 -0000 On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:22 +0100 Pete French wrote: > > David, Fabian, and Adam -- are any of you using your cards in an > > AM2-based system? > > This suddenly has ccaught my attention - I have one AM2 system, and > it will not boot amd64, and will only boot i386 in safe mode. In both > cases the problems appear to be when it probes my SCSI RAID card. > > Having said that, I had a different motherboard with the same parts on it > which ran BSD fine. but this one appears not to, and is AM2. > I have seen weird problems with two AM2 motherboards and 4GB of memory. In one case, using an Adaptec 29160 (ahc) and amd64 (64 bit) I saw data corruption. Note that the same setup worked just fine with i386 because FreeBSD ignored the memory mapped above 4GB. The other board failed to map any memory above 4GB when a PCI card was plugged in and FreeBSD saw only about 3GB. Might be a bug in the BIOS or an option which I failed to set - I didn't spend much time on it. --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 13:34:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1B41065689 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:34:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72F58FC14 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:34:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so453446uge.39 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:34:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=Js9NaVXawoMBz5B1cmWJBP45UoC5oOX8cZwEugvJu4k=; b=RBnmT25TJBtJyNZLdotp8J7TwqUGKVnLO6XvQ2EANtKtKs763jgKRf45zSq+C/VxvK 0HtmoznuLjGCHcBVP9rXTC3FzII2Kq9DH2q6QjfOOlpCZfFpxkyF4qdFShL6zwdtTE5T waeKmTcjKlHsNEpVKFgjL2u5k72ucfPozq2BM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=kAsWwGTlESanbFUFsFobeZ4AkirXKcb2dLnkyCPD4gywLde+wNZXA4erEXoOLTZU/G b+ulrpPoo4u4v+UTin10VkW2eH6ROAxxlC3IcQjmWnBmZWGVZreRV4/+ZjzyE9EoiaiO 5eckgHVPyT8C/D9odcMNzwCfmU2uy+oj/Qt70= Received: by 10.67.106.13 with SMTP id i13mr3173189ugm.37.1223903134721; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? (83-244-213-91.cust-83.exponential-e.net [83.244.213.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e1sm6899147ugf.29.2008.10.13.06.05.33 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: JoaoBR In-Reply-To: <200810130937.48093.joao@matik.com.br> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011144817.GB64861@icarus.home.lan> <48F0D3B5.6070602@egr.msu.edu> <200810130937.48093.joao@matik.com.br> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-x730y7oFoCNvm0j+hSsR" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:05:31 +0100 Message-Id: <1223903131.3262.45.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:43 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:34:13 -0000 --=-x730y7oFoCNvm0j+hSsR Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 09:37 -0200, JoaoBR wrote: > On Saturday 11 October 2008 13:26:29 Adam McDougall wrote: > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:45:29PM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:13:16 -0700 > > >> > > >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:30:57AM +0200, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > >>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:37 -0300 > > >>>> > > >>>> JoaoBR wrote: > > >>>>> I tried MBs as Asus, Abit and Gigabyte all same result > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Same hardware with SATA works perfect > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Same hardware with scsi up to 3.5Gigs installed works perfect > > >>>>> > > >>>>> what calls my attention that all this MBs do not have the memroy = hole > > >>>>> remapping feature so the complete 4gigs are available what normal= ly > > >>>>> was not the case with amd64 Mbs for the Athlon 64 CPUs > > >>>>> > > >>>>> some has an opinion if this is a freebsd issue or MB falure or sc= si > > >>>>> drv problem? > > >>>> > > >>>> It's a driver problem. If you want to use SCSI then you'll have t= o > > >>>> limit memory to 3.5 GB. > > >>> > > >>> What you're saying is that Adaptec and LSI Logic SCSI controllers > > >>> behave badly (and can cause data loss) on amd64 systems which conta= in > > >>> more than 3.5GB of RAM. This is a very big claim. > > >>> > > >>> Have you talked to Scott Long about this? > > >>> > > >>> Please expand on this, and provide evidence or references. I need = to > > >>> document this in my Wiki if it is indeed true. > > >> > > >> See the freebsd-scsi thread with Subject "data corruption with ahc > > >> driver and 4GB of memory using a FBSD-8 64-bit installation?" from W= ed, > > >> 30 Jan 2008. > > >> > > >> This was for ahc, but the bit-rot which Scott mentions in his reply > > >> might also apply to the LSI Logic controllers. > > >> > > >> Basically the driver doesn't correctly handle DMA above 4GB. Since = the > > >> PCI hole gets mapped above 4GB it causes problems. the (S)ATA drive= rs > > >> don't seem to have this problem. > > > > > > Thank you -- this is the exact information I was looking for. > > > > > > I will update my Wiki page to reflect this quite major problem. > > > > I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > > controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > > driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > > such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to > > document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > > _______________________________________________ >=20 >=20 > well this for sure is NOT a AM2 MB but any server MB which indeed run fin= e as=20 > Tyans, SMs and others I guess >=20 It sounds like your issue is specific to certain motherboards and BIOS, which would be non driver specific. Unless this is something that can be worked around, I think the 'solution' is that with this hardware, you are limited to 3.5 GB RAM.=20 Perhaps different SoHo boards would provide different behaviour... Cheers Tom --=-x730y7oFoCNvm0j+hSsR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkjzR5gACgkQlcRvFfyds/d+vgCdEV/umXhAfEs3Z5maaZ1F5vkN 7LYAoKevNwsq9aqQmWkFGKWJXNfd1711 =SSWV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-x730y7oFoCNvm0j+hSsR-- From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 13:39:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2441065690; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681B68FC0A; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:39:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from phobos.local ([192.168.254.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DDdiA4021530; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:39:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Message-ID: <48F34FA0.10503@samsco.org> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:39:44 -0600 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JoaoBR References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> <48F2217C.9010000@samsco.org> <200810130947.28905.joao@matik.com.br> In-Reply-To: <200810130947.28905.joao@matik.com.br> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on pooker.samsco.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:55:51 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:39:55 -0000 JoaoBR wrote: > On Sunday 12 October 2008 14:10:36 Scott Long wrote: > >>>> I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS >>>> controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac >>>> driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no >>>> such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to >>>> document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. >>> Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? >> I can personal vouch for MPT and MFI drivers working just fine with >4GB. >> > > > let narrow this a little bit, are you talking about AM2 sockets? > > because on AM2 the MPT drv is faulty as AHC, AHD and AACD with => 4Gigs > > > Sounds to me like this is a problem either with AM2 systems, or an infrastructure problem in the OS that is triggered by these AM2 systems. Either way, it's not a SCSI driver problem. Scott From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 13:57:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2F901065686 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A3618FC16 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:57:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SAPi1a0051HzFnQ5ADx7gu; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:57:07 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SDx41a00N2P6wsM3aDx49o; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:57:06 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n07WsRzhiL8A:10 a=ORw6YhE72dwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=u-qiumnbCzzxllDzHYkA:9 a=iGaFhjmWvG4C59ZViQAZIQSTGZcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59ED0C9419; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 06:57:04 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20081013135704.GA20521@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <20081011165250.GA67552@icarus.home.lan> <48F2217C.9010000@samsco.org> <200810130947.28905.joao@matik.com.br> <48F34FA0.10503@samsco.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48F34FA0.10503@samsco.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:57:09 -0000 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:39:44AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > JoaoBR wrote: >> On Sunday 12 October 2008 14:10:36 Scott Long wrote: >> >>>>> I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS >>>>> controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac >>>>> driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no >>>>> such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just to >>>>> document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. >>>> Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? >>> I can personal vouch for MPT and MFI drivers working just fine with >4GB. >>> >> >> >> let narrow this a little bit, are you talking about AM2 sockets? >> >> because on AM2 the MPT drv is faulty as AHC, AHD and AACD with => 4Gigs >> >> >> > > Sounds to me like this is a problem either with AM2 systems, or an > infrastructure problem in the OS that is triggered by these AM2 systems. > Either way, it's not a SCSI driver problem. Fully acknowledged. I'll add an entry to my Wiki describing this compatibility problem, but it *will not* fall under the SCSI subsection. It sounds as if there's an implementation/design problem either in FreeBSD's hardware compatibility support for AM2 (probably something very low-level) systems, or there is a bug with these Gigabyte boards; it could be either, or possibly both. It might work in Linux because, for all we know, Linux may have workarounds in place for whatever the problem may be. We simply do not know at this point. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 14:10:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4158E1065690; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Received: from batman.home4u.ch (6to4.home4u.ch [IPv6:2002:d908:d3e2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F808FC08; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:10:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Received: from flashback.wenks.ch (flashback.wenks.ch [IPv6:2002:3e02:55b4:2:20a:95ff:fe8f:6586]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.home4u.ch (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9DEAbfv002733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:10:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Message-ID: <48F356D7.2020603@wenks.ch> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:10:31 +0200 From: Fabian Wenk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <48F11FD6.7050007@wenks.ch> <20081012105711.33009734@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200810130943.22079.joao@matik.com.br> In-Reply-To: <200810130943.22079.joao@matik.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:10:41 -0000 Hello Joćo On 13.10.08 13:43, JoaoBR wrote: > On Sunday 12 October 2008 06:57:11 Gary Jennejohn wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:51:18 +0200 >> >> Fabian Wenk wrote: >> > I do have a system with FreeBSD/amd64 6.3-RELEASE with 4 GB RAM >> > and an Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (ahc) with only a tape >> > drive connected. The disks are on an Areca RAID controller. Access >> > to the disks and the tape drive does work just fine without any >> > crashes. >> >> This is interesting because the 29160 is exactly the controller with >> which I had all my problems, but I was running it with disks only. > I guess his MB is not an AM2 socket Right, my system board is a Tyan Thunder i7520 (S5360) server board (with only one Xeon single core CPU). The Adaptec SCSI is a PCI and the Areca RAID a PCIe controller. I guess some more facts are needed to track this down. Does it make troubles with more then one CPU core and also more then 3.5 GB RAM running on FreeBSD/amd64? If yes, then I'm not surprised that only a few people see this behavior. I think the following informations would be needed to narrow down the affected environment: - FreeBSD version 6.x, 7.x or 8-CURRENT and i368 or amd64 - make and model of system board - make and model of SCSI controller and which driver - on board SCSI controller or PCI / PCI-X / PCIe - device types connected to the SCSI, eg. disk, tape - number of cpu cores - amount of memory So for my system which works fine, this would be: - FreeBSD/amd64 6.3-RELEASE - Tyan Thunder i7520 (S5360) - Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (ahc) - PCI - tape drive (DLT-8000) - 1 cpu core - 4 GB RAM bye Fabian From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 14:24:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B407106569B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:24:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD2B8FC25 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SBHT1a00H0EZKEL5AEQoZK; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:24:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SEQn1a00Q2P6wsM3MEQoZK; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:24:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=n07WsRzhiL8A:10 a=ORw6YhE72dwA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=cI3-heC5bwnThYtdq7oA:9 a=Qihdmg6gh9R7q0NJcDAA:7 a=fESNiesRORCyELHGzmE8ZNSpRA8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5E65BC9419; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 07:24:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Fabian Wenk Message-ID: <20081013142447.GA21047@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <48F11FD6.7050007@wenks.ch> <20081012105711.33009734@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200810130943.22079.joao@matik.com.br> <48F356D7.2020603@wenks.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <48F356D7.2020603@wenks.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:24:51 -0000 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 04:10:31PM +0200, Fabian Wenk wrote: > Hello Joćo > > On 13.10.08 13:43, JoaoBR wrote: >> On Sunday 12 October 2008 06:57:11 Gary Jennejohn wrote: >>> On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:51:18 +0200 >>> >>> Fabian Wenk wrote: > >>> > I do have a system with FreeBSD/amd64 6.3-RELEASE with 4 GB RAM >>> > and an Adaptec 29160 Ultra160 SCSI adapter (ahc) with only a tape >>> > drive connected. The disks are on an Areca RAID controller. Access >>> > to the disks and the tape drive does work just fine without any >>> > crashes. >>> >>> This is interesting because the 29160 is exactly the controller with >>> which I had all my problems, but I was running it with disks only. > >> I guess his MB is not an AM2 socket > > Right, my system board is a Tyan Thunder i7520 (S5360) server board (with > only one Xeon single core CPU). The Adaptec SCSI is a PCI and the Areca > RAID a PCIe controller. > > I guess some more facts are needed to track this down. Does it make > troubles with more then one CPU core and also more then 3.5 GB RAM > running on FreeBSD/amd64? > > If yes, then I'm not surprised that only a few people see this behavior. > > I think the following informations would be needed to narrow down the > affected environment: > > - FreeBSD version 6.x, 7.x or 8-CURRENT and i368 or amd64 > - make and model of system board > - make and model of SCSI controller and which driver > - on board SCSI controller or PCI / PCI-X / PCIe > - device types connected to the SCSI, eg. disk, tape > - number of cpu cores > - amount of memory Two items which are missed (sort of implied though): motherboard BIOS version, and SCSI card BIOS version. Let's try to make an effort to get some hardware and software stats from other folks so we can determine what the commonality in all of this is. I can keep track of this stuff if need be. We know for sure at this point that some of the reported systems experiencing this problem work fine on Linux (all memory seen, and no data corruption), so that "sort of" clears the hardware of being bad or buggy. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 14:26:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2F1106569E; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.153.48.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174D08FC0A; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:26:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from [10.10.2.2] (189-19-2-198.dsl.telesp.net.br [189.19.2.198]) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DEQgls048716; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:26:42 -0200 (BRST) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: Jeremy Chadwick Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:25:41 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <48F34FA0.10503@samsco.org> <20081013135704.GA20521@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081013135704.GA20521@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810131125.41343.joao@matik.com.br> X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL, BR_RECEIVED_SPAMMER,SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN02,SUBJECT_FUZZY_TION,TW_DR autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8417/Mon Oct 13 05:34:29 2008 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Scott Long , freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:26:55 -0000 On Monday 13 October 2008 11:57:04 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 07:39:44AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > > JoaoBR wrote: > >> On Sunday 12 October 2008 14:10:36 Scott Long wrote: > >>>>> I am using some LSI (mpt driver) ultra4 (U320 scsi) and LSI SAS > >>>>> controllers in FreeBSD 7.x amd64 with 20G of ram, and Adaptec (aac > >>>>> driver) with a 5th generation RAID card with 8G of ram, both have no > >>>>> such corruption problems. Providing this as a counter-example just > >>>>> to document some evidence of which products seem to work fine. > >>>> > >>>> Is your LSI SAS controller driven by mpt(4) or mfi(4)? > >>> > >>> I can personal vouch for MPT and MFI drivers working just fine with > >>> >4GB. > >> > >> let narrow this a little bit, are you talking about AM2 sockets? > >> > >> because on AM2 the MPT drv is faulty as AHC, AHD and AACD with =3D> 4G= igs > > > > Sounds to me like this is a problem either with AM2 systems, or an > > infrastructure problem in the OS that is triggered by these AM2 systems. > > Either way, it's not a SCSI driver problem. > > Fully acknowledged. I'll add an entry to my Wiki describing this > compatibility problem, but it *will not* fall under the SCSI subsection. > > It sounds as if there's an implementation/design problem either in > FreeBSD's hardware compatibility support for AM2 (probably something > very low-level) systems, or there is a bug with these Gigabyte boards; good, but it is not only gigabyte, I experienced it on Asus, Abit, Epox and= =20 MSI =20 all this MBs have in common that when 4Gig is installed the full 4gig are=20 avaliable to the Os, on former S939 arquitecture, depending on mem hole=20 remapping setting in BIOS there was +/-3.5gig or 4.+Gig available for amd6= 4,=20 mostly the remapping feature was not existent and then there was always=20 +/-3.5 Gig available > it could be either, or possibly both. It might work in Linux because, > for all we know, Linux may have workarounds in place for whatever the > problem may be. We simply do not know at this point. =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 14:58:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E5F1065696; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@reifenberger.com) Received: from mail-out.m-online.net (mail-out.m-online.net [212.18.0.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0A98FC1C; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@reifenberger.com) Received: from mail01.m-online.net (mail.m-online.net [192.168.3.149]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 617AF1C08F61; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:34:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail.reifenberger.com (ppp-88-217-91-70.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.91.70]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513FD90177; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:34:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail.reifenberger.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0540D3A70F; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:34:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.reifenberger.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCA73A70E; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:34:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:34:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Gary Jennejohn In-Reply-To: <20081013152125.5558af36@ernst.jennejohn.org> Message-ID: References: <20081013125228.GA19035@icarus.home.lan> <20081013152125.5558af36@ernst.jennejohn.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: koitsu@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:58:00 -0000 Hi, I have one ASUS M2N32 WS Pro with X2-Dualcore and 4GB ECC memory connected to an perc/5i controller (mfi). Its a NVidia chipset so parts of the mem gets remapped above 4GB. All is working file. Bye/2 --- Michael Reifenberger Michael@Reifenberger.com http://www.Reifenberger.com From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 15:48:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1F44106564A; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Received: from batman.home4u.ch (6to4.home4u.ch [IPv6:2002:d908:d3e2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4A28FC1D; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Received: from flashback.wenks.ch (flashback.wenks.ch [IPv6:2002:3e02:55b4:2:20a:95ff:fe8f:6586]) (authenticated bits=0) by batman.home4u.ch (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9DFmVO0017175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fabian@wenks.ch) Message-ID: <48F36DCA.40006@wenks.ch> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:48:26 +0200 From: Fabian Wenk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org References: <200810101429.37244.joao@matik.com.br> <48F11FD6.7050007@wenks.ch> <20081012105711.33009734@ernst.jennejohn.org> <200810130943.22079.joao@matik.com.br> <48F356D7.2020603@wenks.ch> <20081013142447.GA21047@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081013142447.GA21047@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Cc: Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:48:35 -0000 Hello Jeremy On 13.10.08 16:24, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Two items which are missed (sort of implied though): motherboard BIOS > version, and SCSI card BIOS version. Ok, for my system this would be: BIOS Information Vendor: Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Version: V1.06 Release Date: 08/01/2006 Adaptec SCSI BIOS v3.10.0 bye Fabian From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 16:02:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3115A1065687 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (bigknife-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f10:75::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE218FC0A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:02:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9DG2cw8011912; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:02:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org, gary.jennejohn@freenet.de Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:25:15 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081013141556.7b7a0806@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <20081013141556.7b7a0806@ernst.jennejohn.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200810131025.15570.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:02:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/8417/Mon Oct 13 03:34:29 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=4.2 tests=BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Subject: Re: how does the kernel go about mapping memory for amd64? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:02:51 -0000 On Monday 13 October 2008 08:15:56 am Gary Jennejohn wrote: > This behavior leads me to believe that FreeBSD is only using the memory > mapping hints provided by the BIOS and is not sizing and mapping memory > itself. > > Is that correct? Yes, we depend on the BIOS SMAP (System Map) table. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 16:25:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8E411065687 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:25:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from parsely.rain.com (parsely.rain.com [199.26.172.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69EF78FC1C for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:25:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (uucp@localhost) by parsely.rain.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with UUCP id m9DGPpC16066 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:25:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id QAA13636; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:22:42 GMT Message-Id: <200810131622.QAA13636@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:25:41 -0200." <200810131125.41343.joao@matik.com.br> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:22:42 +0100 From: Dieter Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:25:56 -0000 > > It sounds as if there's an implementation/design problem either in > > FreeBSD's hardware compatibility support for AM2 (probably something > > very low-level) systems, or there is a bug with these Gigabyte boards; > > good, but it is not only gigabyte, I experienced it on Asus, Abit, Epox and= > =20 > MSI =20 Perhaps something common in the firmware/BIOS ? > all this MBs have in common that when 4Gig is installed the full 4gig are=20 > avaliable to the Os, on former S939 arquitecture, depending on mem hole=20 > remapping setting in BIOS there was +/-3.5gig or 4.+Gig available for amd6= > 4,=20 > mostly the remapping feature was not existent and then there was always=20 > +/-3.5 Gig available Is there some debugging flag to turn on that shows what the firmware/BIOS says about addresses, and the final address map (both RAM and I/O devices) as used by FreeBSD? > > it could be either, or possibly both. It might work in Linux because, > > for all we know, Linux may have workarounds in place for whatever the > > problem may be. We simply do not know at this point. IIUC, Linux uses the firmware/BIOS as little as possible and does everything itself. Which is why *BSD can't run on LinuxBIOS. From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 13 16:43:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30061065692 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A48A8FC1A for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:43:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) Received: from [195.4.92.10] (helo=0.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpQW2-0003nV-QN; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:43:30 +0200 Received: from mad62.m.pppool.de ([89.49.173.98]:50633 helo=ernst.jennejohn.org) by 0.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID gary.jennejohn@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #65) id 1KpQW2-0004EZ-FH; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:43:30 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:43:28 +0200 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Dieter Message-ID: <20081013184328.6815a67b@ernst.jennejohn.org> In-Reply-To: <200810131622.QAA13636@sopwith.solgatos.com> References: <200810131125.41343.joao@matik.com.br> <200810131622.QAA13636@sopwith.solgatos.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: am2 MBs - 4g + SCSI wipes out root partition X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: gary.jennejohn@freenet.de List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:43:33 -0000 On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:22:42 +0100 Dieter wrote: > Is there some debugging flag to turn on that shows what the firmware/BIOS > says about addresses, and the final address map (both RAM and I/O devices) > as used by FreeBSD? > boot -v --- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 14 20:50:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA411065690 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B38C8FC20 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9EKo26P057781 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9EKo2Pg057780; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200810142050.m9EKo2Pg057780@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Matthew Horsfall Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD22106568F for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993678FC1B for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9EKlGAD012289 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:16 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9EKlGkk012288; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:16 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200810142047.m9EKlGkk012288@www.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:16 GMT From: Matthew Horsfall To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:05:27 +0000 Cc: Subject: amd64/128101: IO::KQueue with pipes reliably causes kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 -0000 >Number: 128101 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: IO::KQueue with pipes reliably causes kernel panic >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 14 20:50:01 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew Horsfall >Release: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 >Organization: Dynamic Network Services Inc. >Environment: FreeBSD hostname 6.3-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2 #1: Thu Jun 26 15:21:30 UTC 2008 root@hostname:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/DELL1950-MPT amd64 >Description: With a simple perl script using IO::KQueue, I'm able to (mostly) instantly cause a kernel panic every time. I've tested this on a Dell 1950 Quad-Core running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p2, as well as a Dell Optiplex 745 Dual-Core running 7.0-RELEASE-p4 and a Silicon Mechanics Quad-Core Rackform iServ R266 running 6.3-RELEASE-p2. I was originally having the same problem as http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2008-April/085017.html and so I began investigating and discovered that I could cause a crash reliably. However, the dump I get with this script is apparently incomplete and different from the other crash: [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd". Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 2 Uptime: 35m14s Dumping 4090 MB (3 chunks) chunk 0: 1MB (156 pages) ... ok chunk 1: 3323MB (850512 pages) 3307 3291 3275 3259 3243 3227 3211 3195 3179 3163 3147 3131 3115 3099 3083 3067 3051 3035 3019 3003 2987 2971 2955 2939 2923 2907 2891 2875 2859 2843 2827 2811 2795 2779 2763 2747 2731 2715 2699 2683 2667 2651 2635 2619 2603 2587 2571 2555 2539 2523 2507 2491 2475 2459 2443 2427 2411 2395 2379 2363 2347 2331 2315 2299 2283 2267 2251 2235 2219 2203 2187 2171 2155 2139 2123 2107 2091 2075 2059 2043 2027 2011 1995 1979 1963 1947 1931 1915 1899 1883 1867 1851 1835 1819 1803 1787 1771 1755 1739 1723 1707 1691 1675 1659 1643 1627 1611 1595 1579 1563 1547 1531 1515 1499 1483 1467 1451 1435 1419 1403 1387 1371 1355 1339 1323 1307 1291 1275 1259 1243 1227 1211 1195 1179 1163 1147 1131 1115 1099 1083 1067 1051 1035 1019 1003 987 971 955 939 923 907 891 875 859 843 827 811 795 779 763 747 731 715 699 683 667 651 635 619 603 587 571 555 539 523 507 491 475 459 443 427 411 395 379 363 347 331 315 299 283 267 251 235 219 203 187 171 155 139 123 107 91 75 59 43 27 11 ... ok chunk 2: 768MB (196608 pages) 753 737 721 705 689 673 657 641 625 609 593 577 561 545 529 513 497 481 465 449 433 417 401 385 369 353 337 321 305 289 273 257 241 225 209 193 177 161 145 129 113 97 81 65 49 33 17 1 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:172 172 __asm __volatile("movq %%gs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); (kgdb) backtrace #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:172 #1 0x0000000000000004 in ?? () #2 0xffffffff802486d7 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #3 0xffffffff80248d71 in panic (fmt=0xffffff001f1a2980 "\b\nÕ\033\001’’’Pē\026+") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:565 #4 0xffffffff803e245f in trap_fatal (frame=0xffffff001f1a2980, eva=18446742978959837704) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:669 #5 0xffffffff803e27dc in trap_pfault (frame=0xffffffffba630840, usermode=0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:580 #6 0xffffffff803e2a93 in trap (frame= {tf_rdi = 0, tf_rsi = 4, tf_rdx = 1, tf_rcx = 1, tf_r8 = 0, tf_r9 = 0, tf_rax = -1098874572592, tf_rbx = 0, tf_rbp = -1098989819520, tf_r10 = -1098874572800, tf_r11 = -1098989819520, tf_r12 = -2141554528, tf_r13 = -1094763207168, tf_r14 = -1094638512976, tf_r15 = -1167914496, tf_trapno = 12, tf_addr = 0, tf_flags = 1108101562372, tf_err = 16, tf_rip = 0, tf_cs = 8, tf_rflags = 66178, tf_rsp = -1167914744, tf_ss = 16}) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:353 #7 0xffffffff803c9b0b in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:168 #8 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () #9 0xffffffff80224d71 in kqueue_register (kq=0xffffff011b072600, kev=0xffffffffba630a00, td=0xffffff001f1a2980, waitok=1) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c:903 #10 0xffffffff80225225 in kern_kevent (td=0xffffff001f1a2980, fd=4, nchanges=1, nevents=0, k_ops=0xffffffffba630b40, timeout=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c:637 #11 0xffffffff80225b60 in kevent (td=0xffffff001f1a2980, uap=0xffffffffba630bc0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_event.c:571 #12 0xffffffff803e3351 in syscall (frame= {tf_rdi = 3, tf_rsi = 140737488349776, tf_rdx = 1, tf_rcx = 0, tf_r8 = 0, tf_r9 = 0, tf_rax = 363, tf_rbx = 1, tf_rbp = 7, tf_r10 = 6, tf_r11 = 514, tf_r12 = 6883336, tf_r13 = 0, tf_r14 = 33, tf_r15 = 65535, tf_trapno = 12, tf_addr = 6585448, tf_flags = 0, tf_err = 2, tf_rip = 34372507708, tf_cs = 43, tf_rflags = 582, tf_rsp = 140737488349752, tf_ss = 35}) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:807 #13 0xffffffff803c9d08 in Xfast_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:287 #14 0x0000000800c2d83c in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) >How-To-Repeat: Download the scripts at http://hiddenrealms.org/fbsd/ and run ./fbsdkill.pl Crash is usually instant or it may take a few seconds. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 14 20:50:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BB21065697 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 940EB8FC26 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9EKo2Ps057794 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9EKo2kl057793; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200810142050.m9EKo2kl057793@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Cristobal Perez Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07F11065694 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCC58FC33 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9EKltb3012344 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:55 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9EKltlG012343; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:55 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200810142047.m9EKltlG012343@www.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:47:55 GMT From: Cristobal Perez To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:05:35 +0000 Cc: Subject: amd64/128102: AsusRock 939N68PV-GLAN Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:50:02 -0000 >Number: 128102 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: AsusRock 939N68PV-GLAN Compatibility >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: update >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Oct 14 20:50:02 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Cristobal Perez >Release: FreeNas 0.696.4 >Organization: >Environment: Network capability not available >Description: Dear provider, When I try to align interfaces by the auto detection feature, a "No link up detected" message is displayed. It seems not to recognice the Asusrock 939N68PV-GLAN integrated lan card. Any solution? Regards. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 15 00:50:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819EB1065677 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C00F8FC14 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:50:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9F0onxR004957 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9F0omvf004956 for freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:50:48 -0700 From: Steve Kargl To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081015005048.GA4405@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: linux32 sysctl questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:50:49 -0000 On amd64, the linux compatibility layer has the two sysctls compat.linux32.maxssiz: 67108864 compat.linux32.maxdsiz: 536870912 where maxssiz defaults to a value of 64MB and maxdsiz defaults to a value of 512MB. What are the maximum permissible values allowed for these sysctls? Is there a fixed ratio that maxdsiz must be larger than maxsdiz? I've installed Matlab on my system and any substantial increase in these values lead to a nonfunction matlab, ie segfaults. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 09:20:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B613B1065691 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9263A8FC1F for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9G9K1Rb015224 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9G9K1AD015223; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:20:01 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:20:01 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200810160920.m9G9K1AD015223@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Marcin Kucharczyk Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237DF1065686 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120458FC20 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:13:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9G9DU9u096541 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:13:30 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9G9DUGm096540; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:13:30 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200810160913.m9G9DUGm096540@www.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:13:30 GMT From: Marcin Kucharczyk To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:13:14 +0000 Cc: Subject: amd64/128143: NIC with Realtek 8139 (rl driver) doesn't work with RAM higher than 4GB X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:20:01 -0000 >Number: 128143 >Category: amd64 >Synopsis: NIC with Realtek 8139 (rl driver) doesn't work with RAM higher than 4GB >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-amd64 >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Oct 16 09:20:00 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Marcin Kucharczyk >Release: 6.3-RELEASE-p5 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD main.mini.net.pl 6.3-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p5 #11: Sat Oct 4 11:25:20 CEST 2008 marcinkk@main.mini.net.pl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MAIN amd64 >Description: The system: Gigabyte GA-M55plus-S3G (NVIDIA® Geforce 6100 + nForce 430 chipset) + Athlon 64 X2 + 6GB RAM. The system has two NICs: 1. Integrated NVIDIA card (nve driver) 2. Realtek 8139 card (by Edimax or by Asmax) at PCI port (rl driver) Few days ago I've upgraded system memory to 6GB and I've noticed that network communication on rl0 was lost. I've tried: - ifconfig: works ok, autoselect recognize 100baseTX connection; - arp: also works, MAC addresses of connected devices are proprly discovered; - ping: - ping to IP address of rl0 works - ping to any external IP fails, any external communication doesn't work :( Next I've changed system memory size to 4GB. The communication was partialy restored - ping works with about 25% lost packet. After removing another 1GB, so with 3GB, everything works just fine. At the same time nve0 card works properly. >How-To-Repeat: Check other Realtek 8139 in similar configuration? >Fix: The fix ... I've bought Intel 1000 GT, the em driver and everything works ok with 6GB of RAM. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 14:16:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3215C1065691; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 091A18FC13; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9GEGV7C041508; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:31 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9GEGV3Q041504; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:31 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:31 GMT Message-Id: <200810161416.m9GEGV3Q041504@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cristobal41@hotmail.com, gavin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org From: gavin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: kern/128102: AsusRock 939N68PV-GLAN not recognized X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:32 -0000 Synopsis: AsusRock 939N68PV-GLAN not recognized State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: gavin State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 16 14:12:31 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: To submitter: could you please provide the output of: pciconf -l |grep "class=0x02" so that we can at least establish which network card you are using? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128102 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 14:31:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3011065697; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735568FC08; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9GEVQi3043206; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:26 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9GEVQOO043183; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:26 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:26 GMT Message-Id: <200810161431.m9GEVQOO043183@freefall.freebsd.org> To: marcinkk@gmail.com, gavin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bin@FreeBSD.org From: gavin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: kern/128143: [rl] NIC Realtek 8139 doesn't work with RAM higher than 4GB X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:26 -0000 Synopsis: [rl] NIC Realtek 8139 doesn't work with RAM higher than 4GB State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback State-Changed-By: gavin State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 16 14:25:16 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: User has been asked for feeback Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-amd64->freebsd-bin Responsible-Changed-By: gavin Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 16 14:25:16 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: Probably not amd64 specific http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128143 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 16 19:54:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE293106568A; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kib@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36A88FC1B; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kib@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9GJsOKe076983; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:24 GMT (envelope-from kib@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from kib@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9GJsOx1076979; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:24 GMT (envelope-from kib) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:24 GMT Message-Id: <200810161954.m9GJsOx1076979@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mhorsfall@dyn-inc.com, kib@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org From: kib@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:58:30 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: kern/128101: [panic] IO::KQueue with pipes reliably causes kernel panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:54:25 -0000 Synopsis: [panic] IO::KQueue with pipes reliably causes kernel panic State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: kib State-Changed-When: Thu Oct 16 19:53:02 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: The problem is believed to be fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-amd64->freebsd-bugs Responsible-Changed-By: kib Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Oct 16 19:53:02 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: The problem is believed to be fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128101 From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 17 13:36:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEED2106569A; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2FFD8FC13; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from philip@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (philip@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m9HDaOkw005968; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:24 GMT (envelope-from philip@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from philip@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m9HDaObU005964; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:24 GMT (envelope-from philip) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:24 GMT Message-Id: <200810171336.m9HDaObU005964@freefall.freebsd.org> To: philip@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.org, philip@FreeBSD.org From: philip@FreeBSD.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:22:02 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: amd64/125820: [k8temp] [patch] sysctl dev.k8temp.*.sensor1.* are invalid. X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:25 -0000 Synopsis: [k8temp] [patch] sysctl dev.k8temp.*.sensor1.* are invalid. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-amd64->philip Responsible-Changed-By: philip Responsible-Changed-When: Fri Oct 17 13:36:24 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=125820