From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 16 16:54:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123E81065670 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0617B8FC13 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAGGsN6p003506 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:23 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAGGsNXD003505 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:23 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:23 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200811161654.mAGGsNXD003505@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:54:24 -0000 U relnotes6/man4/man4.i386/wl.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/Makefile U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/auxio.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/central.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/clkbrd.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/creator.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/ebus.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/eeprom.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/fhc.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/machfb.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/ofw_console.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/openfirm.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/openprom.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/rtc.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/sbus.4 U relnotes6/man4/man4.sparc64/snd_audiocs.4 /bin/mkdir -p /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= XML_CATALOG_FILES="file:///w/www/build/www/en/catalog-cwd.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/local/bin/xsltproc --xinclude --stringparam LOCALBASE /usr/local --stringparam WEB_PREFIX /w/www/build/www --nonet --catalogs --param 'transtable.xml' "'/w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/transtable.xml'" --param 'transtable-target-element' "'country'" --param 'transtable-word-group' "'country'" --param 'transtable-mode' "'sortkey'" /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/transtable-local.xsl /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/mirrors.xml | env -i LANG="en_US.ISO8859-1" /usr/bin/sort -f > / w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort.tmp env -i /usr/bin/grep "^ /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort echo "" >> /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort env -i /usr/bin/awk '/@sortkey@/ {sub(/@sortkey@/, ++line); print;}' < /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort.tmp >> /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort echo '' >> /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= XML_CATALOG_FILES="file:///w/www/build/www/en/catalog-cwd.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/local/bin/xsltproc --xinclude --stringparam LOCALBASE /usr/local --stringparam WEB_PREFIX /w/www/build/www --nonet --catalogs -o /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml --param 'transtable.xml' "'/w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/transtable.xml'" --param 'transtable-target-element' "'country'" --param 'transtable-word-group' "'country'" --param 'transtable-sortkey.xml' "'/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort'" /w/www/build/doc/share/ sgml/transtable-local.xsl /w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/mirrors.xml /bin/rm -f /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort /w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml.sort.tmp install /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog-cwd.xml /w/www/build/www/en/catalog-cwd.xml echo '' > /w/www/build/www/en/autogen.ent env SGML_CATALOG_FILES= XML_CATALOG_FILES="file:///w/www/build/www/en/catalog-cwd.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///w/www/build/www/en/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog.xml file:///w/www/build/www/share/sgml/catalog-common.xml file:///usr/local/share/xml/catalog" /usr/local/bin/xsltproc --xinclude --stringparam LOCALBASE /usr/local --stringparam WEB_PREFIX /w/www/build/www --nonet --catalogs -o index.html --param transtable.xml "'/w/www/build/doc/share/sgml/transtable.xml'" --param mirrors.xml "'/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/share/sgml/mirrors.xml'" --param news.project.xml-master "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml'" --param news.project.xml "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml'" --param news.press.xml-master "'/w/www/build /www/share/sgml/press.xml'" --param news.press.xml "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/press.xml'" --param events.xml-master "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/events.xml'" --param events.xml "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/events.xml'" --param advisories.xml "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/advisories.xml'" --param notices.xml "'/w/www/build/www/share/sgml/notices.xml'" index.xsl /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml:52: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: p line 50 and event ^ /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml:53: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: event line 41 and day ^ /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml:102: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: day line 38 and month ^ /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml:805: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: month line 35 and year ^ /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml:1616: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: year line 32 and news ^ /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml:1617: parser error : Premature end of data in tag news line 25 ^ unable to parse /w/www/build/www/share/sgml/news.xml *** Error code 6 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 0.69 real 0.18 user 0.10 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 09:45:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C6B1065672 for ; 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(oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d13sm4047093fka.19.2008.11.17.01.45.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:45:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49213D0B.4020404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:44:43 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Fbsd1 References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Adding splash screen section to handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:45:04 -0000 Dear Joe, >>> "This makes for a visually cleaner experience getting to the X11 >>> Desktop Display Manager login screen and/or virtual console >>> login prompt." >> >> Sorry, I do not understand this sentence. >> > [..] In X11 environments the users would get a visually clearer > system start up experience resembling something closer to what an > ms/xp user would see. Okay, thank you for the clarification. > First of all, the handbook does not have any reference to the splash > screen function. The only documentation on the splash screen is in > the FAQ. You should know that all ready. Yes, you are right. > I agree with you that the splash screen documentation should be > removed from the FAQ and placed in the handbook. Complete and full > documentation is what is needed and the handbook is the place it > belongs. On that point I do not think the splash screen belongs under > the section dealing with X11 because it really has nothing to do > with X11. I think it should be in a new sub-section, in section "3.0 > UNIX Basics" after 3.2 Virtual Consoles and Terminals, titled 3.3 > Boot time Splash screen. Oh, thank you for your contribution! > I don't have the time nor the patiences to work through the handbook > SGML coding and approval process. So I am going to hand off this new > handbook section to you to do as you want with it. Just give me my > credit do as "Contributed by Joseph J. Barbish". I will do the SGML coding and review your work. Thank you again. Cheers, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 17 11:06:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6103B1065678 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1F58FC25 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAHB66TL081597 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAHB65qi081593 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:06:05 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:06:05 GMT Message-Id: <200811171106.mAHB65qi081593@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:06:06 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/128816 doc [PATCH] Enhance the explanation of using of mount opti o docs/128804 doc Gmirror handbook instructions convert boot-drive to gm o docs/128768 doc Missing documentation about tmpfs mount options o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages o docs/128325 doc README.snapshots still refers to snaphots as "alpha-te o docs/128222 doc [patch] man page truss(1) claims that init(8) can be t o docs/128129 doc Sysinstall color problem in xterm o docs/128128 doc Sysinstall not mentioned in 4.4 "Using the Packages Sy o docs/128032 doc pthread(3) mentions libkse which has been removed in 8 o docs/127952 doc man for locate(1) is missing o docs/127923 doc Please mention qemu in the FreeBSD Handbook o docs/127908 doc [PATCH] readdir(3) error documentation o docs/127890 doc socket(2) man page should explain that protocol can be p docs/127866 doc Typos found in ifconfig(8) man page o docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/127842 doc list of hardware devices missing from the relnotes o docs/127840 doc [patch] fix entity references in release/doc/en_US.ISO o docs/127602 doc [patch] Incomplete information in nsswitch.conf(5) o docs/127575 doc [patch] Update to ports (7) as it is missing a few mak o docs/127406 doc [patch] update umodem man page: Sony Ericsson W810i o docs/126934 doc missing 'crit' in usr.sbin/syslogd/syslog.conf.5 o docs/126921 doc [patch] History section of cpuset(1) incorrect o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126487 doc fix language on atol(3) manpage o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented o docs/126445 doc discussion on WEP settings in wpa_supplicant.conf(5) m o docs/126227 doc [patch] kthread(9) refers to non-existent manpage, des o docs/125921 doc lpd(8) talks about blocks in minfree while it is KB in o docs/125896 doc [PATCH] arp manual and syntax synchronisation o docs/125751 doc man 3 pthread_getschedparam section ERRORS incomplete o docs/125639 doc [patch] kldunloadf(2) does not mention about possible p docs/124166 doc fortune: instant-workstation tip should go o docs/123400 doc gvinum startup in handbook o docs/123035 doc [patch] bugs in refuse.README o docs/122470 doc [patch] exit status on fetch(1) manual page o docs/122053 doc [patch] update on vinum(4) reference to newfs(8) o docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121871 doc ftpd does not interpret configuration files as documen o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification o docs/121565 doc dhcp-options(5) manpage incorrectly formatted omitting s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121197 doc [patch] edits to books/porters-handbook o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120628 doc PAE documentation errror in handbook o docs/120539 doc Inconsistent ipfw's man page o docs/120456 doc ath(4) needs to specify requirement on wlan_scan_sta o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120040 doc handbook: diskless operation: populate root doesn't po o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119907 doc Ports compatibility o docs/119746 doc l10n chapter of handbook (Russian Language) o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting a docs/119536 doc a few typos in French handbook (basics) s docs/119404 doc [request] events page should list only last 2 years wo o docs/119338 doc gprof(1) refers to unmentioned option "-c" o docs/119329 doc [patch] Fix misleading man 1 split o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/118545 doc loader tunables kern.dfldsiz and friends nearly undocu o docs/118332 doc man page for top does not describe STATE column wait e o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/118020 doc ipfilter(4): man pages query for man 4 ipfilter return o docs/117798 doc formatting oddity in sysmouse(4) o docs/117747 doc 'break' system call needs a man page o docs/117013 doc mount_smbfs(8) doesn't document -U (username) argument o docs/116480 doc sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies s o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note o docs/116080 doc PREFIX is documented, but not the more important LOCAL o docs/115921 doc Booting from pst(4) is not supported o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/112481 doc bug in ppp.linkup example o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111263 doc [request] Information on $EDITOR variable in section 3 o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110061 doc [PATCH] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109983 doc No manual entry for protoize o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109975 doc No manual entry for elf2aout o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd o docs/109115 doc add Ultra 450 to hardware list for sparc64 a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105997 doc sys/kern/sys_pipe.c refer to tuning(7), but there is n o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/104403 doc man security should mention that the usage of the X Wi o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/102148 doc The description of which Intel chips have EM64T is out o docs/101464 doc sync ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/100242 doc sysctl(3) description of KERN_PROC is not correct anym o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98759 doc [patch] sbp_targ(4) man page missing reference to devi o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/95139 doc FAQ to move filesystem to new disk fails: incorrect pe o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91174 doc [REQUEST] Handbook: Addition of Oracle 9i installation o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/85187 doc [patch] find(1) manpage missing block info for -ls o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/85118 doc [PATCH] opiekey(1) references non-existing opiegen(1) o docs/85100 doc NOTES: ICH audio device support statement is ambiguous o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84806 doc mdoc(7) manpage has section ordering problems o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84538 doc [patch] sk(4) driver supports Marvell 88E800x chip too o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84268 doc chmod(1) manpage's BUGS entry is either wrong or too c o docs/84265 doc [patch] chmod(1) manpage omits implication of setting f docs/82595 doc 25.5.3 Configuring a bridge section of the handbook ne o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/78240 doc [patch] handbook: replace with aroun o docs/78138 doc [patch] Error in pre-installation section of installat o docs/76333 doc [patch] ferror(3): EOF indicator can be cleared by not o docs/75865 doc comments on "backup-basics" in handbook o docs/70652 doc [patch] New man page: portindex(5) o docs/70583 doc [patch] Update freebsd-glossary o docs/69861 doc [patch] usr.bin/csplit/csplit.1 does not document POSI o docs/63570 doc [patch] Language cleanup for the Handbook's DNS sectio o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour o docs/57388 doc [patch] INSTALL.TXT enhancement: mention ok prompt s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/50211 doc [PATCH] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/47818 doc [patch] ln(1) manpage is confusing o docs/43823 doc [PATCH] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples o docs/36449 doc symlink(7) manual doesn't mention trailing slash, etc. s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 173 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 05:47:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF95106564A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balusoft@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B136C8FC0A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balusoft@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a1so1606327tib.3 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:47:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=m9yms3KtOjvjPsBZ9FfJ9WxZviulSO3l7jX3M8a8l1w=; b=SY2Bjqj1+IXSA3Tx08fOypi7+16TSpIH9/Mnov1m+aspuYsi4Ke9XSW0kyCEMo0Uqk ruAi6GrmAj1XPtR6FmkCncbY1291ui2j/iSG4EjF3+ObAOam+hP+FGj1H+QcxWAENRTI mYfY1OZ6fSTqdbYEglzZUTVapYFzaKG0aevlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ntDAmyfCALzATBw/PM0bsHI7RbiWf74Yn6VIn5w8TMorXk+zNmI+bqzCmqC07ZkdTm r2xmfEiqnNmXnn15NlCUfkvcWP5Q/y5uM6CxDpyTTB9yTYFko5vUnyfT4L6uxCuPDw01 5rsbq/BW9BAdIZ4+WC9cnhpPPH7u+0lvwa/ZI= Received: by 10.110.47.17 with SMTP id u17mr6039480tiu.43.1226985617996; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:20:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.110.15.8 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:20:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2e17cda30811172120w59e43980l77895345b7fce3c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:50:17 +0530 From: "balaji cherukuri" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:32:29 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Reg kernal internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:47:38 -0000 Hi FreeBSD-Doc Team, I need freeBSD kernel internals, can you please provide any doc.? Thanks, Balaji C. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 12:44:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD8D106568E for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:44:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7578FC18 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1199257yxb.13 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:44:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4Uz9lZQSV5+8Q00uq3W73MndeGscNvJkQysgRZIJ6QE=; b=c/74ESXRVZp7lOLHahL6hBrFUAv/+UYU5AlsXY+QDSISNS94U8ClB09Ida3Y9RoBS9 RaoUeioHhkXkE0W4gypUxXQD5mWHKfg3B3+JSTDAhEnCNTmLozwvxQjZYIqQ1dnEcTga 4TP89UrkdFyKCXvOcRfAIHP82oGj7729Vz7u0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mODW/OTJBP2iNuzLGMSROAWqHuO+lRsivFeWwrQI0iR4dgULy9I+IeBLpbPQFNJknF Q5sSSagEdfXgYL4xMLrnp5Bjkl9iLa8PJhcRrPV4mN1i9lTaQWZ3T3Oa5iOLmCgxlK3b OJ8JXlBFu4iatIhtG0GZXIAkc6QcX/B6OWCfs= Received: by 10.150.201.13 with SMTP id y13mr10014888ybf.35.1227012244977; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.98.4 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:44:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:44:04 +0100 From: "Rene Ladan" To: "balaji cherukuri" In-Reply-To: <2e17cda30811172120w59e43980l77895345b7fce3c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2e17cda30811172120w59e43980l77895345b7fce3c1@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reg kernal internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:44:06 -0000 2008/11/18 balaji cherukuri : > Hi FreeBSD-Doc Team, > I need freeBSD kernel internals, can you please provide any doc.? > Yes, some pointers: - manual pages in category 9 describing kernel functions, see intro(9). - the kernel section in the developers handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kernel.html - the architecture handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/ - the FreeBSD kernel cross reference (processed source code): http://fxr.watson.org/ HTH, Rene -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 12:53:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A911065672 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:53:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balusoft@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF928FC0A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:53:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balusoft@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a1so1744560tib.3 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:53:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ynsm5hbPJ/2WI4Tw5vbp+bQLas7UiIB555+bGAcLNzg=; b=buE2Ce3f1WGacn5xt/0MPVxccijfcjAG+p/S/NNkX0VZCKjXwxY0EZqUM7TscM6ts2 IorI8L2LdP9up6gCBwdYrVltrpqUwFXuEkDrsoCzD8r4/Tz6n5p/E367uI9uAWP4pHP3 Je79MlW5/iIBp9P451QjG0lSsTR1j9Yv0OHvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=M06vMc7jaFdmM6ALu+1mLMNATyociPr75sjrikchC7hvxhad8rm5iMI6b3tObqR/5e 5OnffmLuBirhO8Aix9i+p3KEKliJ05kOGyoHZ9b5l3ftj2UQFkWUGQwUIYc8EFoVD+0r O7f0Z8WsdiFtXOp4l1Vhe/pJXPakcwvETWjpo= Received: by 10.110.15.19 with SMTP id 19mr6543082tio.57.1227012829778; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.110.15.8 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:53:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2e17cda30811180453x7f53daa6ua020eee70725235d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:23:49 +0530 From: "balaji cherukuri" To: "Rene Ladan" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2e17cda30811172120w59e43980l77895345b7fce3c1@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:55:11 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reg kernal internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:53:51 -0000 ThanQ verymuch, Do you have any docs which will talk more about NULLFS, VFS and process structure. This would be a great help for me. Thanks, Balaji C. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Rene Ladan wrote: > 2008/11/18 balaji cherukuri : > > Hi FreeBSD-Doc Team, > > I need freeBSD kernel internals, can you please provide any doc.? > > > Yes, some pointers: > - manual pages in category 9 describing kernel functions, see intro(9). > - the kernel section in the developers handbook: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kernel.html > - the architecture handbook: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/ > - the FreeBSD kernel cross reference (processed source code): > http://fxr.watson.org/ > > HTH, > Rene > -- > http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ > > GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 > (subkeys.pgp.net) > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 14:23:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2870B106567F for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D557E8FC24 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:23:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from r.c.ladan@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1215843ywe.13 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:23:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FtxerPdMP9BRaOrtcSuLKpQnAnJD2SrVdOXxb2jpdnw=; b=CYTLwOcLdVKhLq1GEb+5BKBtAnMLUhirMLNtwivjokQiV+VVnbSftmHAu6vkt6oMM2 1he9LpIKf6uv099szPhBBDajg1Qyu1nSlVe/pj0H6TiKCN6Lh/BumSljxCf/HECbQyrP IiS3CcEut4CC3wFGChB2GRHpzbyV/Fx88vfiE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=L5ymibd9H5DlM+F7+ZXmFSx+mvumk1Zufnu8wjeoXDIWUeK+TiYDCxOfVBx6cobRkC H9PfI2lGszV9iA7C8z8fLzL7mky0E9r6jJMl4yQgI9Sc7kNw1Kw+zbpItLgfH92PlK8m Vc2bulCFIrsmXtEGI5v+mpuBhzoTFoIPkriAI= Received: by 10.151.103.11 with SMTP id f11mr82701ybm.10.1227018182989; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.98.4 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:23:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:23:02 +0100 From: "Rene Ladan" To: "balaji cherukuri" In-Reply-To: <2e17cda30811180453x7f53daa6ua020eee70725235d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2e17cda30811172120w59e43980l77895345b7fce3c1@mail.gmail.com> <2e17cda30811180453x7f53daa6ua020eee70725235d@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reg kernal internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:23:05 -0000 2008/11/18 balaji cherukuri : > ThanQ verymuch, > Do you have any docs which will talk more about NULLFS, VFS and process > structure. > - 'apropos VFS' returns a bunch of VFS manual pages. - NULLFS has no manual pages, but you can look at the source in /usr/src/sys/fs/nullfs and /usr/src/sbin/mount_nullfs What exactly do you mean with 'process structure' ? schedulers? Rene > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Rene Ladan wrote: >> >> 2008/11/18 balaji cherukuri : >> > Hi FreeBSD-Doc Team, >> > I need freeBSD kernel internals, can you please provide any doc.? >> > >> Yes, some pointers: >> - manual pages in category 9 describing kernel functions, see intro(9). >> - the kernel section in the developers handbook: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kernel.html >> - the architecture handbook: >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/ >> - the FreeBSD kernel cross reference (processed source code): >> http://fxr.watson.org/ >> >> HTH, >> Rene >> -- >> http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ >> >> GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 >> (subkeys.pgp.net) > > -- http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 (subkeys.pgp.net) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 16:31:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5761065673 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balusoft@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB2948FC20 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balusoft@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id a1so1786300tib.3 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:31:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JfNwKpKn0y5aF2GGGdt9ZrcmgrI9rZ0oDBHAidA9c8I=; b=jJcLppdsX3XSYrM7qjAJoVX0EPNrVPUOGXI/nV5lqLBAnOA8mMX23pX7Y69PiqGhCS 5iCER/i1s0FhmeCwQpAxZmwjLAPKgSptzrLVoY6Ql6luA9h+LwgfXW98g6zw3h7fdSuP f9FJJCtfM74/WgVYCw7dJzlHRlrvqdEmMfw1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=TIhOjQL6yKnFu4yrjI+Gn1zsdeBZfRp/rdNQRL6p7S14CmecAAMGFhspdRGBtftH7M D3XA2MxGFMrzxZSNpzuPdhcDKA3xlsXp6CxVONjpyC+S+AWlyFDhMBUWgiu4PlgI4e/z JW1TIs1yYNugIC63ROLVLk85ECPSEyQy2sHgU= Received: by 10.110.40.8 with SMTP id n8mr22538tin.49.1227025878604; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:31:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.110.15.8 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:31:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2e17cda30811180831v2c7fca2fle88f8919eb1b1229@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:01:18 +0530 From: "balaji cherukuri" To: "Rene Ladan" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2e17cda30811172120w59e43980l77895345b7fce3c1@mail.gmail.com> <2e17cda30811180453x7f53daa6ua020eee70725235d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reg kernal internals X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:20 -0000 actually I need details regarding "struct proc", "struct ucred" and any/all other structures which will represent the process information and/or user credential information. And also how to use that structures. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Rene Ladan wrote: > 2008/11/18 balaji cherukuri : > > ThanQ verymuch, > > Do you have any docs which will talk more about NULLFS, VFS and process > > structure. > > > - 'apropos VFS' returns a bunch of VFS manual pages. > - NULLFS has no manual pages, but you can look at the source in > /usr/src/sys/fs/nullfs > and /usr/src/sbin/mount_nullfs > > What exactly do you mean with 'process structure' ? schedulers? > > Rene > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Rene Ladan wrote: > >> > >> 2008/11/18 balaji cherukuri : > >> > Hi FreeBSD-Doc Team, > >> > I need freeBSD kernel internals, can you please provide any doc.? > >> > > >> Yes, some pointers: > >> - manual pages in category 9 describing kernel functions, see intro(9). > >> - the kernel section in the developers handbook: > >> > >> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kernel.html > >> - the architecture handbook: > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/arch-handbook/ > >> - the FreeBSD kernel cross reference (processed source code): > >> http://fxr.watson.org/ > >> > >> HTH, > >> Rene > >> -- > >> http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ > >> > >> GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 > >> (subkeys.pgp.net) > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.rene-ladan.nl/ > > GPG fingerprint = E738 5471 D185 7013 0EE0 4FC8 3C1D 6F83 12E1 84F6 > (subkeys.pgp.net) > From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 17:23:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C471065670 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B525A8FC0A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAIHNril032069 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:23:53 GMT (envelope-from www@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAIHNreT032068 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:23:53 GMT (envelope-from www) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:23:53 GMT From: World Wide Web Owner Message-Id: <200811181723.mAIHNreT032068@www.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: FreeBSD web build failed on www.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:23:53 -0000 /bin/mkdir -p /w/www/build/www/en/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum install -C -o www -g wwwadm -m 444 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/usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/pgpkeys/pgpkeys-developers.sgml:459:7:E: general entity "pgpkey.pho" not defined and no default entity /usr/local/bin/jade:/w/www/build/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/../../../share/pgpkeys/pgpkeys-developers.sgml:460:11:E: end tag for "SECT2" which is not finished *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en/doc. *** Error code 1 (ignored) *** Error code 1 Stop in /w/www/build/www/en. 100.25 real 56.60 user 30.05 sys From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 19:26:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AA31065672; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FAB8FC16; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAIJQg10076277; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:26:42 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAIJQgmw076273; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:26:42 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:26:42 GMT Message-Id: <200811181926.mAIJQgmw076273@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/128968: [patch] rwlock(9) man page typo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:26:43 -0000 Old Synopsis: rwlock man page typo New Synopsis: [patch] rwlock(9) man page typo Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 18 19:26:14 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: docs PR. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128968 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 20:15:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309191065677; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0922D8FC1C; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from maxim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (maxim@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAIKFkYq014446; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:46 GMT (envelope-from maxim@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from maxim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAIKFkd1014442; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:46 GMT (envelope-from maxim) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:46 GMT Message-Id: <200811182015.mAIKFkd1014442@freefall.freebsd.org> To: huntting@glarp.com, maxim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: maxim@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/128968: [patch] rwlock(9) man page typo X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:15:47 -0000 Synopsis: [patch] rwlock(9) man page typo State-Changed-From-To: open->patched State-Changed-By: maxim State-Changed-When: Tue Nov 18 20:12:03 UTC 2008 State-Changed-Why: The issue is already fixed in HEAD. I'll MFC the delta to RELENG_7 after 7.0-RELEASE if pjd@ doesn't do before me. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128968 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 20:30:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335981065672; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:30:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788968FC13; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:30:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mAIKU2V4093733; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:30:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mAIKU115001254; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:30:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAIKU194001253; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:30:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:30:01 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20081118203001.GB1030@gothic.blackend.org> References: <200811090424.mA94OlN6087438@repoman.freebsd.org> <20081109084551.GB1058@gothic.blackend.org> <87hc6gbz3t.fsf@kobe.laptop> <20081109192507.GB1030@gothic.blackend.org> <87k5bc4ovw.fsf@kobe.laptop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87k5bc4ovw.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org, Chin-San Huang , cvs-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/share/misc docbook.css X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:30:04 -0000 On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:37:23PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 20:25:07 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: > >> Maybe something like this? > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css.diff > >> > >> I don't really like ``width: 800px;'' in our current stylesheet. In > >> wide monitors, or with lagre font sizes, explicitly using pixels for the > >> width of document elements means that the reader may end up with stuff > >> like this screenshot: > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-bug.png > >> > >> The current elements stand out too much for my taste too, so I > >> removed ``background-color: #DEE3E7;'' from , but added a border > >> (similar to the one of elements) to . > >> > >> You can see the effect of the stylesheet changes of `css.diff' in the > >> two sets of pages: > >> > >> [before] > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-old/install-pre.html > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-old/x-config.html > >> > >> [after] > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-new/install-pre.html > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-new/x-config.html > > > > The new x-config.html is fine for me. > > For the new install-pre.html, the way is > > rendered looks oldish, maybe using the same scheme as for > > might do the trick. > > The bold red text is kind of `old school' for me too. I'll wait to see > if there are flames^W^H err, objections about the rest and update the > style too :) > Maybe it's time to close the thread and commit something, at least the width: 85% fix and perhaps even the rest... -- Marc From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 21:19:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68F31065670 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from abigail.blackend.org (ns0.blackend.org [82.227.222.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616F08FC12 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:19:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (gothic.blackend.org [192.168.1.203]) by abigail.blackend.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id mAILJ6t3094254 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@abigail.blackend.org) Received: from gothic.blackend.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id mAILJ6X9001501 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc@gothic.blackend.org) Received: (from marc@localhost) by gothic.blackend.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAILJ6sQ001500 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:19:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from marc) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:19:06 +0100 From: Marc Fonvieille To: doc@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20081118211905.GD1030@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xesSdrSSBC0PokLI" Content-Disposition: inline X-Useless-Header: blackend.org X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: Tag slip X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:19:08 -0000 --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Just a quick note to say that doc/ tree has been retagged for both 6.4-R and 7.1-R. That means all changes since previous tagging operation will be part of these releases. --=20 Marc --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFJIzFJzQ9RwE+OdOgRAlJMAKDYous3VnHG9fDnF5CRfxqNivdv0gCeLXMU 42i/CvWy6VoS3ZwEVqRrvzs= =44UW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xesSdrSSBC0PokLI-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 21:25:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E377F1065673 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB418FC12 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so334060ugs.39 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:25:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b0WsiOgyblBFW/IRAW7ztpsFMlij0euHPHMZaZ47w5k=; b=r86dxH4DFkajnNQcw7bLRt7CRTYmR5MODJ/SXMIJy0i36Wcr3IlibW4zpKCkZMxv/y wquzG1a414CWcFwbmaETcofMaSPsw2ctEmavpbaZ84CFy+L9nn7zlaPFTKJZRvDewglD 3hpZpTeMhp9lkf2KwgbYboYfQJLAszesMmIi0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IMi4SwZceVCODEfkfV4XF3T4hBtUEi01IE8Ls00N9iWMBwtYLOTnIr9CkkKxt6uSEo sue7jfxk0z5MCl9beRKmChEiRN8+KDro3S4ZhhQvwUaqW1hnfuePBrPwDLEz2yRNF5Ur hRlchmEe5MPUdcvnnluX+mbfy4jGk2YLx01SM= Received: by 10.67.116.18 with SMTP id t18mr2456575ugm.52.1227043509463; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:25:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4438580.home.otenet.gr [79.129.170.36]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 40sm7433166uge.24.2008.11.18.13.25.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:25:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <492332B1.6090004@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:25:05 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Fonvieille References: <20081118211905.GD1030@gothic.blackend.org> In-Reply-To: <20081118211905.GD1030@gothic.blackend.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Tag slip X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:25:12 -0000 Marc Fonvieille wrote: > Hello, > > Just a quick note to say that doc/ tree has been retagged for both 6.4-R > and 7.1-R. That means all changes since previous tagging operation will > be part of these releases. > > That's actually good news for the Greek Documentation Project ;) Lots of fixes (and entire chapters) have been committed since the previous tagging. Thanks for the update! manolis@ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 21:40:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A301106567A for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA34C8FC20 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAILe2aE075029 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAILe2HW075028; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:02 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:02 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200811182140.mAILe2HW075028@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, Thomas Abthorpe Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E741065670 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CAA8FC1B for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:33:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAILXCH5075643 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:33:12 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAILXCTn075642; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:33:12 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200811182133.mAILXCTn075642@www.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:33:12 GMT From: Thomas Abthorpe To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/128973: Spelling mistake in ntp-keygen.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:03 -0000 >Number: 128973 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Spelling mistake in ntp-keygen.8 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 18 21:40:02 UTC 2008 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thomas Abthorpe >Release: 7-STABLE >Organization: FreeBSD.GoodKing.Ca >Environment: FreeBSD goodking.goodking.ca 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Mon Nov 10 00:08:20 EST 2008 root@goodking.goodking.ca:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GOODKING i386 >Description: Lists recommended path to generated keys as /ust/local/etc >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch attached with submission follows: --- /usr/local/tinderbox/jails/7-STABLE/src/usr.sbin/ntp/doc/ntp-keygen.8 2006-09-30 15:07:03.000000000 -0400 +++ /usr/src/usr.sbin/ntp/doc/ntp-keygen.8 2008-11-18 16:27:30.000000000 -0500 @@ -126,7 +126,7 @@ program is logged in directly as root. The recommended procedure is change to the keys directory, usually -.Pa /ust/local/etc , +.Pa /usr/local/etc , then run the program. When run for the first time, or if all >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 18 23:35:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29030106564A; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09A28FC0C; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (danger@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAINZDiO066386; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:35:13 GMT (envelope-from danger@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from danger@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAINZDHu066382; Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:35:13 GMT (envelope-from danger) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:35:13 GMT Message-Id: <200811182335.mAINZDHu066382@freefall.freebsd.org> To: danger@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, danger@FreeBSD.org From: danger@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/128973: Spelling mistake in ntp-keygen.8 X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:35:14 -0000 Synopsis: Spelling mistake in ntp-keygen.8 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->danger Responsible-Changed-By: danger Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Nov 18 23:35:03 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: Take http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128973 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 19 18:32:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513471065670 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F034C8FC17 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:32:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so51321yxb.13 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:32:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Q3LS99hbdPPc5Sty9n5+nYhHVbFtjYI8tOlCpOy2aSM=; b=hj5XxEpnomJRz+SdDiFHo4DPLr6QNriB18S5zLS0s+08GbLNLh0nefwZmQy1QOtpWg sBoGooVHaCL+t6bXdYV+9D+XVLt8+8Kxy7ZPtaCKQeZDXazPt7q2fMqRwvPIlYsSjC0G SmYFeJuQgsYq3HL8Eryq2Opl/BMgVvkXJLAOE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=DQPQlxw6/Ke4rKWv7VW0u2mt6ZU6guW+ZWU7i8Bq5yBz/36B1Lv8isBrfIaqOVRbbG QJB0y9UjS226cS20qDeNKpthd+yqxSii9ag+xFQfEuqzznQrIkO06MV5ZBNHEy9T3nam LTdc2s2Cs6l9A6X9jM4KSo5tJvis7QFCAgDh8= Received: by 10.90.26.9 with SMTP id 9mr968360agz.59.1227119525928; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.90.114.13 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:32:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54db43990811191032qb4462d6y10104e63c8671298@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:32:05 -0500 From: "Bob Johnson" To: "Tom Rhodes" In-Reply-To: <20081112220431.3e451c3e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200811120800.mAC80Cm2038380@freefall.freebsd.org> <54db43990811120654l213596f1j844c3f185c3eb577@mail.gmail.com> <20081112200454.3ddb9b89.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> <20081112220431.3e451c3e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/128804: Gmirror handbook instructions convert boot-drive to gmirror, truncating last sector X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 18:32:07 -0000 On 11/12/08, Tom Rhodes wrote: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:04:54 -0500 > Tom Rhodes wrote: > >> On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:54:49 -0500 >> "Bob Johnson" wrote: >> >> > The user has no control over whether the last sector of the drive is >> > used for data. Data is scattered all over the drive, in something that >> > resembles a random fashion, and I know of no reason the last sector is >> > not just as likely to have data stored to it as any other sector on >> > the drive (but I am certainly not an authority on the filesystem >> > algorithms). >> > >> > I think a warning is very much in order (that there is a small chance >> > that data will be lost by this procedure). >> > >> > - Bob >> Well, I got distracted and never replied to this, but since the PR is still open, here's more: >> >> Don't Unix file systems attempt to lump data closer together >> in order to reduce this fragmentation which scatters data >> across the entire drive, making it unlikely to have data in >> that last sector unless one went beyond the 8% boundry? In general, no, it is pretty much the opposite. It would be more accurate to view it as intentionally fragmenting the drive in a controlled way so that the problems caused by fragmentation are minimized. The heuristic used probably tends to favor leaving the last sector of the filesystem empty longer than most other sectors, but it can still be used long before the entire filesystem is full (assuming there isn't some other consideration I don't know about -- I'm no expert on the details of the algorithms used). This is because, in general, the goal of the filesystem layout scheme is to avoid completely filling any physical region (cylinder group) if it can be avoided, so it spreads data out among the cylinder groups. This strategy helps keep large chunks of empty space available, so that new data has a good chance of being stored on contiguous sectors. The blocks that belong to one file will tend to be physically close to each other so that the file can be read quickly, but the files themselves end up scattered all over the disk. There are a few ways in which a file can end up being stored on a specific cylinder group, but the result is that the group at the physical end of the filesystem is likely to be used long before the entire filesystem is full. If it happens that the files stored on the last cylinder group are large, or there are many of them, it is possible to write the last sector long before the entire filesystem is full. There is some degree of random chance in the process. -- Bob Johnson fbsdlists@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 11:08:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 421BC1065673 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:08:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0CD8FC1A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:08:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so294168fgb.35 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:08:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=Io8m21ssImOIXfKBl0v/KmM9iadKYz89A4T1x7+3UQU=; b=a32Zv6THVzp/zd78Apa7497+2iLgxiK12cAgcd3M8NurSlEZs/KNdqI2NmpjEyOhXX 4gUiIvxi0RaBloy1T1BfqvpwbDGvRZJ3KW89ZeoLyXdiiJubo1VZuRjbl4k9bRe5z3EZ 45gzJbaFVy9kTT3YtMzdip39nP/EcpE1ZmCsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=wiScY2CSQspQ5yl3xAnlGxqHeMxUpe6wVvvnLbv3tL2p+7llfZ2VN7hrToL5Os/VRB GwsjGl8CZ7n/16UjqxoTfaF0SS9UYjEzXWVy2ROkXFzEHp5tZ+WTaS6ycIT74eQ+XzvC p01z1L/ThclCuJdYTqRRya5R/7zk8Fuz/a2y4= Received: by 10.86.76.16 with SMTP id y16mr1474744fga.65.1227179282586; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.30? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm2467825fgg.0.2008.11.20.03.08.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:08:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:07:40 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: Subject: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:08:04 -0000 Dear members, A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire section for referencing from the FAQ. He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the content. Thank you for your comments in advance. Cheers, :g [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/014989.html From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 14:01:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18AD10656D2; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BA88FC1B; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:01:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl63-61.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.190.61]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mAKE1cYu017764 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:01:43 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAKE1cPm002434; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:01:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAKE1cmB002433; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:01:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Marc Fonvieille Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:08:51 +0200 Message-ID: <87bpwa4slo.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mAKE1cYu017764 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.276, required 5, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL -0.93, BAYES_00 -2.60, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06 0.04, FAKE_REPLY_C 2.01) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org, Chin-San Huang , cvs-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/share/misc docbook.css X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:01:53 -0000 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:30:01 +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote: >On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:37:23PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>>> [before] >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-old/install-pre.html >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-old/x-config.html >>>> >>>> [after] >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-new/install-pre.html >>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~keramida/bsd-css/2008.11.09/css-new/x-config.html >>> >>> The new x-config.html is fine for me. >>> For the new install-pre.html, the way is >>> rendered looks oldish, maybe using the same scheme as for >>> might do the trick. >> >> The bold red text is kind of `old school' for me too. I'll wait to see >> if there are flames^W^H err, objections about the rest and update the >> style too :) > > Maybe it's time to close the thread and commit something, at least the > width: 85% fix and perhaps even the rest... Yep. I didn't see any major objections to the [after] style, so I will commit the new style-sheet later today. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 14:20:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CE61065679 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AF458FC14 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.105] ([93.216.140.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mAKDnQUT014767 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:49:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:49:24 +0100 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:20:12 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > Dear members, > > > A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. > Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started > as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the > descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire > section for referencing from the FAQ. > > He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I > would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate > it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good > place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the > Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only > the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the > content. > > > Thank you for your comments in advance. Dear Gabor, thank you and Joseph for your work! Please go for it, a lot of desktop users want it. Chapter 3 seems appropriate for me. Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash screens in the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention it in your section? Maybe it would be good idea to ask on advocacy for proposals? Best regards, Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 14:26:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AACA01065673 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:26:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BE618FC17 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:26:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so285383ugs.39 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:26:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+SwBMAK3WnfyPZ2n1YnQaAqa4sjOuC/p1u2iwBaCA+g=; b=AJgGqI7MbrVANuZeyDb8fBuqOlSGOL/4AGC3fjavhfzEJkWiVuSpXP6iekYQYENlRE 7bdqsv8JscO9KGlUvqnQyW8HOlUPH+95YuqjCm3vnMvJx/bh0HDSQ5SDm/oUNoCx/dIe sVwT0r/6MXnL8venFh0Ok7o7LKvaNAM3qm334= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kzwgiuEd4GIr+FgcCHIU1Me4fAYo8zIvcsaUlz7NsEIRANFX8IXUdrDrQGDPUbt4rQ Ez4CZ2IFwwnG0LlPfio+Ih00dzyFR1/Bk6mCgRbNx5gxuOsmVdXg26w/JiirnZL1mZOS NvtTM7NgN3tnMr5B0knSac950I01yotaa3wJE= Received: by 10.66.255.1 with SMTP id c1mr312106ugi.44.1227191203608; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:26:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4362332.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k30sm1457970ugc.25.2008.11.20.06.26.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 06:26:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:26:38 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor PALI References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:26:45 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > Dear members, > > > A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. > Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started > as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the > descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire > section for referencing from the FAQ. > > He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I > would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate > it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good > place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the > Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only > the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the > content. > > > Thank you for your comments in advance. > > > Cheers, > :g > > [1] http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/014989.html > I followed the discussion and I think this is useful info that should be part of the documentation. The submitted text looks ok more or less (and I am quite sure you will it touch it up anyway ;) ). I am more concerned about the placement of this info though. Supposedly the first part of the Handbook is more or less introductory and designed to teach fundamental UNIX concepts. Granted, this rule is violated a few times, some parts are way more advanced and refer to later sections. However I believe we should keep chapter 3 focused on exactly the title: UNIX basics. Imagine yourself being a beginner and trying to find some useful info on basic UNIX commands. Would you rather find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I doubt it. What's more, you would not be able to fully understand what is going on. There is another possible section for this info: Chapter 12 (boot). If you come to think about it, the splash screen is more related to booting than actual system operation (the "basics"). In fact there is a section on loader.conf in chapter 12 and I think this info could be adjusted to fit the chapter nicely. There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes to mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a "Misc settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to categorize stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the FAQ. By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus is to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) manolis@ From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 16:16:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2831065670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5200C8FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so316965ugs.39 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:16:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=5zkH9FIGDE5KNF+sAhPPJQR68QVbyZwsriQwGb4QE+Y=; b=sXpSbbGXziMEuH58Zfoz7H+NHj1Elu+2RkvyihpPIW2XxVyeFqoMjiTnF9om1OQgfg Hrg+l9NbnIrDTsTgv4PeFlqV98TRtw2o9OO/wIaHxxLZo47QnLQXPOof9Y2W5qrByX35 Y9pVHe9aYvGqhqyX9KtJ++7j758cWjHduY+Bw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=vw/AnnJZ9aEsIsW6yOl5g/e5W0syhN2cHGYRf56XyWdzH86VHL0XnAAGZyw2ZRfCAO wW3oLGFZrqbxDVXiFhq8PG7gMGkGTz7MBMBuYW5Q3pdsYaDr3xXp5aDKyo21XTVQC9PW QDjpcH78FpskTYyXte0LTrzj5PLlCfelU1/+s= Received: by 10.210.119.16 with SMTP id r16mr617658ebc.27.1227197815076; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.30? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20sm672761eyc.48.2008.11.20.08.16.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:16:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49258D61.9060206@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:16:33 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:16:56 -0000 Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Please go for it, a lot of desktop users want it. Thanks for the support :) > Chapter 3 seems appropriate for me. Well, I would accept Manolis' suggestion, but I will write about it in a direct reply. > Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash screens in > the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention it in your section? Artwork section? Do you mean creating an artwork section? > Maybe it would be good idea to ask on advocacy for proposals? Do you mean the freebsd-advocacy mailing list? What kind of proposals? Cheers, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 16:46:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903921065670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1615A8FC0C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:46:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pali.gabor@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so223753eyi.7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:46:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=EmOTRCcauJdQqtOPe7VNls7C1zrPvunXu7NuoIsIhB4=; b=tsMO31qzbdow+B6yPkMBsEuA6gG4g3Zz5HcluY4DuLmX5rtuBDgkwSB0Es9rpBFzKg bARYR+IWN0+EqyiD/0g9qeYDlNQnXfQ2DIMVTxq5sJE4wcwe0Cd6AomKISnKaBYYyQUx bheLhA+WUBkcosKa9AlADZNNSQk1Ak5Ylaq+Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=qc47dGTj4mP+/fDu2SRIMdcsZd/4IJtQHj9de7EHcIKIFtmBmwPfSf9/QseNwshBVm TIY5vILuUPv39b/+47fHL0WWsNBd1aZevgy3RXRVYMfPiwpEOkQVJAiPmf0gw54kD6qp qBsea+V+qGt9ASrlPjCxuebJ77iy/q1OGVL+Y= Received: by 10.210.51.10 with SMTP id y10mr2115759eby.87.1227199599580; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.30? (oktnb24.inf.elte.hu [157.181.167.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1574163eyg.32.2008.11.20.08.46.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:46:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49259459.1000700@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:46:17 +0100 From: Gabor PALI Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081023) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Manolis Kiagias References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: =?UTF-8?B?UMOBTEkgR8OhYm9yIErDoW5vcw==?= Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:46:41 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > I followed the discussion and I think this is useful info that should > be part of the documentation. Thanks for the support. > The submitted text looks ok more or less (and I am quite sure you > will it touch it up anyway ;) ). Yep, it is very probable :) > I am more concerned about the placement of this info though. Initially, I had the very same concern about this contribution, but when I looked through Chapter 3, I found a lot of FreeBSD-specific information in it. > Supposedly the first part of the Handbook is more or less > introductory and designed to teach fundamental UNIX concepts. [..] But I have to agree with you. > Would you rather find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I > doubt it. What's more, you would not be able to fully understand what > is going on. There is another possible section for this info: Chapter > 12 (boot). Hm, I think it is a great idea! What do you think of appending it to section ``12.3 The Boot Manager and Boot Stages'' (as a sub-section)? > There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes > to mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a > "Misc settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to > categorize stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the > FAQ. I recommended to not to include the entire text in the FAQ itself for Joe because I think the FAQ should be "compact and quick". Joe wrote a complete and precise description on the topic, so it should be placed in the Handbook and referenced (only) from the FAQ. I am trying to defer the introduction of a potential "Misc Settings" chapter until we really encounter things that do not fit in the actual contents or outgrew their limits. > By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus > is to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) At the moment, I would prefer to inject it into Section 12.3. If there is no explicit objection in the next few days, I will try start to work on its SGML version and send a patch to the list for review. Comments are still welcome. Cheers, :g From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 16:58:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F93F1065674 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906CE8FC1F for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so327808ugs.39 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:58:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RjnSCfTkjCcAaf+lCpFkkyFtMdBpQsTvDoar7uYmyUg=; b=tnMx5P9Aei+i4yFKJGP7pBUSkEML7gNujU770XmMUxa+BPb6WgPNlbBW1VCrq5SYGw XviP7+pNkdiI9Tsd/4SmMNbCeGyjJCnPWlUOWuhCg+BZ+FCAyWoN52NhFE2EgLiuzHpn aRza19QbQHPuHqCyh0v2bV5L+zvs0Vh+42PAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SMiazX5Yd3PsKQYwPfYe5RX8F/xrfQ7xZQQYib5sjpy1t9MMTtDfxsDMjodp8dIe2b EcpR+hxCbF4r8ujzAz2MlTpX8M1ZMMrOeeCxKsEd4vs1WAyaq4z61aITermJfkNem8zh OPm9ua4SNpUgZAUAWKz36vvDBUw8ntbTto3Fg= Received: by 10.67.116.18 with SMTP id t18mr3692908ugm.52.1227200282338; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4362332.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u1sm1755390uge.8.2008.11.20.08.58.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49259716.6040207@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:57:58 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor PALI References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> <49259459.1000700@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49259459.1000700@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:58:04 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > > >> Would you rather find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I >> doubt it. What's more, you would not be able to fully understand what >> is going on. There is another possible section for this info: Chapter >> 12 (boot). >> > > Hm, I think it is a great idea! What do you think of appending it to > section ``12.3 The Boot Manager and Boot Stages'' (as a sub-section)? > > > Yes, exactly what I had in mind. I was reading section 12.3.3 where /boot/loader is discussed while writing the previous reply. >> There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes >> to mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a >> "Misc settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to >> categorize stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the >> FAQ. >> > > I recommended to not to include the entire text in the FAQ itself for > Joe because I think the FAQ should be "compact and quick". Joe wrote a > complete and precise description on the topic, so it should be placed in > the Handbook and referenced (only) from the FAQ. > > I am trying to defer the introduction of a potential "Misc Settings" > chapter until we really encounter things that do not fit in the actual > contents or outgrew their limits. > > > I agree. Most of the misc topics still seem to fit in the standard chapters if studied carefully. >> By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus >> is to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) >> > > At the moment, I would prefer to inject it into Section 12.3. If there > is no explicit objection in the next few days, I will try start to work > on its SGML version and send a patch to the list for review. > Well, let's call all the "usual suspects" ;) to comment... From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 17:04:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCBC106564A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:04:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DBB8FC21 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.105] ([93.216.140.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mAKH41UT022445 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:04:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <4925987F.2020300@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:03:59 +0100 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <49258D61.9060206@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49258D61.9060206@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:04:03 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > Daniel Seuffert wrote: >> Please go for it, a lot of desktop users want it. > > Thanks for the support :) > > >> Chapter 3 seems appropriate for me. > > Well, I would accept Manolis' suggestion, but I will write about it in a > direct reply. I wouldn't object any other place because users will find it any way if searching by Google or any other means. >> Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash screens in >> the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention it in your section? > > Artwork section? Do you mean creating an artwork section? No, not necessarily. We have http://www.freebsd.org/art.html Imho we should have "official" FreeBSD splashs there too in any form. It's some sort of marketing and imho there should be at least three of them available. Imagine both FreeBSD distributions (PC-BSD and DesktopBSD) have their specific boot splashs enabled by default because most desktop users want it. Disclaimer: I'm NOT propagating shipping FreeBSD with a default splash! >> Maybe it would be good idea to ask on advocacy for proposals? > > Do you mean the freebsd-advocacy mailing list? What kind of proposals? Yes, I mean't freebsd-advocacy. If we want to ease using splashs why don't we ask our users providing some examples? Or even write a news announcing an "splash contest"? - Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 17:15:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A7401065679 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qy0-f18.google.com (mail-qy0-f18.google.com [209.85.221.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332B78FC16 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by qyk11 with SMTP id 11so512364qyk.19 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:15:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=TLJ0a4GQHBTcdApo/nhkp2SZLWF9a7dabvDHaa8Y2ws=; b=V499XhF7ecEk0KzzJj15z1o8pwTKo2Yl8QZAD8GMrZAQNYW+urHUZFrsgxEQvn7zlo GDDVHNZqbUi3ylLew4mei2x//gQhcXAI/PMv5OJvpsie0YJIwO0NJQSl/iqAy+nPrihz DrxiHriX1S8bYaIV16sQD7DZwQQY7vUQVrwTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=LGokbIIWXfRu4pJ42ksAq+CaEiXnSMbs4oURT6HcebQJn6WDRvgRWc7Wpk48l5sgIt 6X16Yzyp/hJP4POu41xnqkBkojXnj8gn1sinQui7ls4wsmlbm+ll7/uAFl9ZleH35yVv VqFrcXPBJFeqPTlEeaJ+hbmiYoFYZW+IPseuM= Received: by 10.214.11.14 with SMTP id 14mr2589345qak.210.1227201333081; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([190.177.216.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1107579ywl.4.2008.11.20.09.15.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:15:32 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:15:31 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:15:34 -0000 On Thursday 20 November 2008 11:49:24 am Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: > > Dear members, > > > > > > A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. > > Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started > > as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the > > descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire > > section for referencing from the FAQ. > > > > He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I > > would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate > > it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good > > place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the > > Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only > > the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the > > content. > > > > > > Thank you for your comments in advance. > > Dear Gabor, > > thank you and Joseph for your work! > > Please go for it, a lot of desktop users want it. > > Chapter 3 seems appropriate for me. > > Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash > screens in the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention > it in your section? Maybe it would be good idea to ask > on advocacy for proposals? Indeed .. I've been thinking about this for a long time ... there's a severe lack of FreeBSD related artwork .. so much so that I was thinking on paying some artists I know to come up with a series of FreeBSD boot/splash/backgrounds/sleeves and CD-DVD cover images ... Peer Schaefer's work (CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD) is impecable, but he seems to be the only one working on FreeBSD art: http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork/ I translated the text on his CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD into spanish in order to get some "globalized" advocacy: http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork-es/ On august this year, Daniel Seuffert was asking for posters to use at events: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2008-August/003701.html I believe OpenBSD sets the standar on this one .. with new OpenBSD related art on every release, posters, t-shirts, lots of stickers and so on ... http://images.kd85.com/notforsale/blowfishsticker.pdf http://eurobsd.org/2005-WhatTheHack/reports/wvdputte-20050730/tn/DSC03983.JPG.html http://images.kd85.com/notforsale/openbsd-en-flyer-1.9.3.v8.pdf http://kd85.com/notforsale.html I've been hesitant on wether or not to bring this issue up on freebsd-advocacy but if I'm not alone on this one, I'm willing to do so. I thought that Anton Gural's work would have put an end to this ... but it did not :( > Best regards, Daniel > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Just in case you are wondering; yes .. i know this mail should have been sent to advocacy@ .. but the thread started in here ... so .. if I'm not alone and there's consensus, I'll resend it to advocacy@ when the time comes. Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 17:19:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28129106567B for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13728FC08 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:19:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so333613ugs.39 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:19:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xh1X2szq4fuZ+dQOqUj8pZ4Hwex6yqwtIZh+i93im8g=; b=hmPbKML0MIBpgAyPrNtdtBPlgJeV1etqSmMW6u1ptz6ZdpqRKxsM/89IcurQye2YmI HikCuUQC12KZ/FdfQYl93LTPN7Flangp4IYRFN+0cJ53gE7lFf2mGdCJsV23CwyH8WJY jeDhHSEk0UPhWWfqExTneEtVYDgxZV18tQa8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OmrGDuSlhjH/g6rZ1gBod5RXgd4AIgbrqy+keaZGHi2nTI8IvQO6uHVyJCxQQWbj2N Z/LKjaD0qHtad2+z+iEHvrmk3kqb2CcXV+Hk7l74knpBcvd4NnZVzBpi06r6ZJJQgJwQ Ry/5f0sRyqXwnTL6+yaO0CZkzm6hPaKGrKtXo= Received: by 10.66.250.17 with SMTP id x17mr3703116ugh.67.1227201548006; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4362332.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m1sm1797547uge.20.2008.11.20.09.19.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:19:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49259C07.4030700@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:19:03 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <49258D61.9060206@FreeBSD.org> <4925987F.2020300@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: <4925987F.2020300@praxisvermittlung24.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:19:10 -0000 Daniel Seuffert wrote: > >>> Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash screens in >>> the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention it in your section? >> >> Artwork section? Do you mean creating an artwork section? > > No, not necessarily. We have > > http://www.freebsd.org/art.html > > Imho we should have "official" FreeBSD splashs there too in any form. > It's some sort of marketing and imho there should > be at least three of them available. This is a nice idea actually, and I don't think anyone would object. That's the purpose of the artwork section. We would need some original work though. There are some FreeBSD splash screens floating around the Net, but we really need new stuff. > > Imagine both FreeBSD distributions (PC-BSD and DesktopBSD) have their > specific boot splashs enabled by default because > most desktop users want it. > > Disclaimer: I'm NOT propagating shipping FreeBSD with a default splash! > >>> Maybe it would be good idea to ask on advocacy for proposals? >> >> Do you mean the freebsd-advocacy mailing list? What kind of proposals? > > Yes, I mean't freebsd-advocacy. If we want to ease using splashs why > don't we ask our users providing some examples? > Or even write a news announcing an "splash contest"? > freebsd-advocacy would be a good place to ask people for artwork. Though the list is rather low volume, and it may go unnoticed. Another idea would be a post in the new forums.freebsd.org, where it will be seen by lots of (real world) users. I am quite certain you will find more people with artistic talents there, than these lists. (Technology oriented people can rarely draw a straight line ;) ) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 17:32:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE981065670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f12.google.com (mail-gx0-f12.google.com [209.85.217.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7ED48FC1A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:32:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by gxk5 with SMTP id 5so549377gxk.19 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:32:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=3dSkzqJg6iCBH9J/OfrZvbREjGOqpN8cKkYhPHINCn0=; b=ge57DbXdEGBOSW14/HHurWrlsp+WNL2jxEuFSR6VCxi2dH55t74lk/+YK8VhXICvTE SrtrS+tZBRKzrWiVRDYEszvRCYC/dkPKgQ/a6YAd9MRm9OOJLYYKcm2CTmhabH7Na9f/ fI0UMAuIcXX9X/9hYo+DxsBUG4EqFojPeZVdQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=hsrVkBStBjhiVJvTN+YN+tYu+C8gYghMgk6hGS7z2M0AiLvS5Bjc97FaU9gTsEECHx XJwDAXXbpbVPMZjc+1xdWfgLI1G2Iz4Zw+5VvblvZx8F+55Ly4hAwo6zvEWFF0dJdZaM ErG/X+fHheS0sKEEMWA3zNB/UB2FoDxPr4zO4= Received: by 10.90.70.6 with SMTP id s6mr1725317aga.48.1227199937917; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:52:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([190.177.216.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 38sm1094647agd.18.2008.11.20.08.52.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:52:16 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811201452.16175.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:32:57 -0000 On Thursday 20 November 2008 12:26:38 pm Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: > > Dear members, > > > > > > A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. > > Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started > > as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the > > descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire > > section for referencing from the FAQ. > > > > He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I > > would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate > > it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good > > place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the > > Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only > > the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the > > content. > > > > > > Thank you for your comments in advance. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > :g > > > > [1] > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/014989.html > > I followed the discussion and I think this is useful info that should be > part of the documentation. The submitted text looks ok more or less (and > I am quite sure you will it touch it up anyway ;) ). I am more concerned > about the placement of this info though. > Supposedly the first part of the Handbook is more or less introductory > and designed to teach fundamental UNIX concepts. Granted, this rule is > violated a few times, some parts are way more advanced and refer to > later sections. However I believe we should keep chapter 3 focused on > exactly the title: UNIX basics. Imagine yourself being a beginner and > trying to find some useful info on basic UNIX commands. Would you rather > find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I doubt it. What's more, > you would not be able to fully understand what is going on. > There is another possible section for this info: Chapter 12 (boot). If > you come to think about it, the splash screen is more related to booting > than actual system operation (the "basics"). In fact there is a section > on loader.conf in chapter 12 and I think this info could be adjusted to > fit the chapter nicely. First: Thanks Joseph and Gabor for your work. Now, and for what is worth, I've been following the thread too and 1) Yes .. I think it's Joseph's work should be available on the Handbook. 2) I agree with Manolis for the same reasons he exposed. Even if Chapter 3 is a good enough place to insert this info, Chapter 12 seems to be an even better one. > There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes to > mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a "Misc > settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to categorize > stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the FAQ. > > By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus is > to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) > > manolis@ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Once again, thank you Joseph and Gabor for your work .. and just in case, a friend and I have fooled around with splash screen and boot splash a not so long time ago .. in case you are interested (discussion is in spanish but C code is not =P ): http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2494 http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2493 Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 18:53:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7433A1065674 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F267A8FC19 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.105] ([93.216.140.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mAKIrHUT026458 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:53:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <4925B21B.2030703@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:53:15 +0100 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <49258D61.9060206@FreeBSD.org> <4925987F.2020300@praxisvermittlung24.de> <49259C07.4030700@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49259C07.4030700@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:53:19 -0000 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Daniel Seuffert wrote: >> don't we ask our users providing some examples? >> Or even write a news announcing an "splash contest"? >> > > freebsd-advocacy would be a good place to ask people for artwork. Though > the list is rather low volume, and it may go unnoticed. Another idea > would be a post in the new forums.freebsd.org, where it will be seen by > lots of (real world) users. I am quite certain you will find more > people with artistic talents there, than these lists. (Technology > oriented people can rarely draw a straight line ;) ) Posting it in forums.freebsd.org is REALLY a good idea! - Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 18:59:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D401065672 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A266E8FC0C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so248030eyi.7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:59:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QNaDIxeMa7ozambVE7H07IyTPBMKK2r1hoH8RiwoTok=; b=hFJZHJZNaGIk/BLcYYl5BhDnnpuGDpAy2U0pKwenpSGAhm70ueseTXSUvNjc9FcQpo CuWWUz/42hB44hHfwOGRven1+0JDmwdlSauj4E3IpLWCkzkN42shLFKN3mUd6uw1quy1 4fmssAkZjk57t3XdcssoOQ9SmuwIjCCp+FxL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iJyrhUlQtNcGYHOVGkvwqN2ydVMgPGIUuU4ARVu28xRJQ28pP6XPm0WZ10ecrt4sKd 6P86fdT73b9GaYKpDN05V58/0DQlUcVqvJE6iOS9DpezI+WcBCoSUKeH+ynP2na7Afy4 o39k7cLELL6QxyjFTqwwxJTKPYISTOh6CY3pE= Received: by 10.210.52.9 with SMTP id z9mr2245746ebz.35.1227207575416; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4362332.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm391517ikz.20.2008.11.20.10.59.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:59:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4925B393.1060009@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:59:31 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <49258D61.9060206@FreeBSD.org> <4925987F.2020300@praxisvermittlung24.de> <49259C07.4030700@gmail.com> <4925B21B.2030703@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: <4925B21B.2030703@praxisvermittlung24.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:59:37 -0000 Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> Daniel Seuffert wrote: >>> don't we ask our users providing some examples? >>> Or even write a news announcing an "splash contest"? >>> >> >> freebsd-advocacy would be a good place to ask people for artwork. Though >> the list is rather low volume, and it may go unnoticed. Another idea >> would be a post in the new forums.freebsd.org, where it will be seen by >> lots of (real world) users. I am quite certain you will find more >> people with artistic talents there, than these lists. (Technology >> oriented people can rarely draw a straight line ;) ) > > > Posting it in forums.freebsd.org is REALLY a good idea! > > - Daniel > Well, I just did actually: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=403 So let's continue the discussion there ;) From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:01:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F411065672 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:01:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurin@delete.org) Received: from lithium.delete.org (lithium.delete.org [198.177.254.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E907D8FC12 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:01:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurin@delete.org) Received: by lithium.delete.org (Postfix, from userid 1028) id 3B7E67E845; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:56:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:56:07 -0500 From: Toby Burress To: Dieter Kluenter Message-ID: <20081120185607.GB60958@lithium.delete.org> References: <87iqqifj18.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87iqqifj18.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some more errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:01:54 -0000 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:40:03PM +0100, Dieter Kluenter wrote: > Hi, > now reading > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/secure.html > > there are better ways to model this sort of access control (example 8 > and example 9) man slapd.access(5) describes a 'privilege model' that > is more applicable. Your examples are not wrong but only state of the > art in 1998, and OpenLDAP has been developed actively since then. heh, you think that's bad, you should see the tree I inherited in my current job. I'll see if I can rework that section. > > The examaple 10 creating a management group, is absolutely bogus. > The attribute type memberuid has syntax IA5string, but your example > shows attribute values of distinguishedName syntax. I believe that is a result of my understanding of the way pam_ldap handled memberUid on FreeBSD. Basically, if you have a group, and you only want members of that group to be able to auth via PAM, you need the entire DN in that group's memberUid attributes. I show this in 3.1.1 of the article. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:06:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1972C1065677 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurin@delete.org) Received: from lithium.delete.org (lithium.delete.org [198.177.254.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C588FC1C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:06:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurin@delete.org) Received: by lithium.delete.org (Postfix, from userid 1028) id C44657E83F; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:48:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:48:03 -0500 From: Toby Burress To: Dieter Kluenter Message-ID: <20081120184803.GA60958@lithium.delete.org> References: <87myfufl8u.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87myfufl8u.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:06:54 -0000 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:52:17PM +0100, Dieter Kluenter wrote: > Hi, > I just stumpled upon > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/client.html > > In examples 7 you are presenting a ruby script to modify a > userpassword. In this script you use some sort of ldapmodify to change > the password value. This is a NO NO. Never modify a password this > way and please do not propagate this. > The proper way is to call the extended operation passwordModify > (RFC-3062). The shell script of example 6 calls ldappasswd(1), which > calls this extended operation. Unfortunately it doesn't look like ruby-ldap supports RFC-3062. This specific example, iirc, was adapted from a script I wrote to modify passwords in an Active Directory server, which requires a specific (crazy) kind of ldapmodify. However, from the RFC it looks like this extension is specifically to allow the directory to manage the password backend even when such backend isn't the directory itself (which my article doesn't cover). While I'll add a section about this and the passwordModify operation, I think it is not terrible to use ldapModify to change passwords, as long as (a) the users are in fact kept in the directory, and (b) the admin is aware that he'll have to change his scripts if that changes in the future. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:20:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175951065672 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D9A8FC0A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:20:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.105] ([93.216.140.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mAKJ4gUT026980 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:04:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:04:40 +0100 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:20:23 -0000 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: >> Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash >> screens in the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention >> it in your section? Maybe it would be good idea to ask >> on advocacy for proposals? > > Indeed .. I've been thinking about this for a long time ... there's a severe > lack of FreeBSD related artwork .. so much so that I was thinking on paying > some artists I know to come up with a series of FreeBSD > boot/splash/backgrounds/sleeves and CD-DVD cover images ... > > Peer Schaefer's work (CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD) is > impecable, but he seems to be the only one working on FreeBSD art: > > http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork/ > > I translated the text on his CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD into > spanish in order to get some "globalized" advocacy: > > http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork-es/ I suggest you have a look at: http://misc.allbsd.de/CD-Stuff/ You can find any CD-/DVD-label I have ever produced for an event and afaik there's every BSD you might need (if I have forgotten something please let me know). > On august this year, Daniel Seuffert was asking for posters to use at events: > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2008-August/003701.html Yes, that was me. We have 2 posters available now: http://misc.allbsd.de/Poster/FreeBSD-Blue-PosterA2.tif (designed by Aron Schlesinger) http://misc.allbsd.de/Poster/beastie_end.pdf (designed by Lars Engels aka lme@FreeBSD.org) I want to have more posters (5 or more) if possible > I believe OpenBSD sets the standar on this one .. with new OpenBSD related art > on every release, posters, t-shirts, lots of stickers and so on ... no doubt > I've been hesitant on wether or not to bring this issue up on freebsd-advocacy > but if I'm not alone on this one, I'm willing to do so. we should pick up the idea from Manolis with the new forum imho as well as advocacy > I thought that Anton Gural's work would have put an end to this ... but it did > not :( artwork is a never ending story, you cannot have to much of it... On a side note: Just in case you haven't seen it yet: We have a lot of flyers available in English, French, German http://misc.allbsd.de/Flyer/FreeBSD/ Maybe somebody is willing to translate to Spanish? ;-) - Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:34:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7692C106564A for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:34:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE7898FC0C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so369448ugs.39 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:34:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d5s9Z5UlrbSzk3gkfksvELaWG5u4Ch2UF7vuyXlMx6c=; b=g6gjae0b4NMguVVr5imrTCDF18C48ZRLaabBbBZC1pGFEgGzr0hzQYjWyVYNDQ+eNG 4Qrbqy32d2EmWqaR0Th8McfaHfn/MkePG/KoBIlxW87VL4SpTRWYI2n1ILbX+GmLTZyr yZPlzNG8beOJzlBausdSnckEYsoV6PtSQbPg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JW0eJoOHszV7LA5jF1Za+PF7ZJacWge93DDQF0bRFcEYQ6zjmZiGDi3JpCBQhT+tfq 9gJFc3nM6AyeKyZd2Sx9RqQlUeS0YP/7IfnYsnxeXAlD+SmYyHjgUhVmPHEfy65TG8xN j4Z1aUanHaPh/t+TBtu7OAW2khTgwd6cznIH8= Received: by 10.67.106.6 with SMTP id i6mr3778450ugm.49.1227209666887; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4362332.home.otenet.gr [79.130.0.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 19sm2018565ugl.12.2008.11.20.11.34.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:34:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4925BBBB.1090307@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:34:19 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de References: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:34:29 -0000 Daniel Seuffert wrote: > > artwork is a never ending story, you cannot have to much of it... > > On a side note: > Just in case you haven't seen it yet: We have a lot of flyers > available in English, French, German > > http://misc.allbsd.de/Flyer/FreeBSD/ > > Maybe somebody is willing to translate to Spanish? ;-) > > - Daniel Thanks for posting the links! This is really nice work. I will consider translating some of this to Greek too. I've started a thread on the forum for collecting this stuff, and will keep notes so we can decide how to deal with it. Either link to it from the website, create a new page or whatever. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 19:52:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A071065670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C6E8FC17 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.105] ([93.216.140.90]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mAKJqLUT028666 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:52:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <4925BFF3.9010207@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:52:19 +0100 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <49256AE4.3030604@praxisvermittlung24.de> <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> <4925BBBB.1090307@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4925BBBB.1090307@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: DS@praxisvermittlung24.de List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:52:23 -0000 Manolis Kiagias schrieb: > Daniel Seuffert wrote: >> >> artwork is a never ending story, you cannot have to much of it... >> >> On a side note: >> Just in case you haven't seen it yet: We have a lot of flyers >> available in English, French, German >> >> http://misc.allbsd.de/Flyer/FreeBSD/ >> >> Maybe somebody is willing to translate to Spanish? ;-) >> >> - Daniel > > Thanks for posting the links! This is really nice work. I will consider > translating some of this to Greek too. > I've started a thread on the forum for collecting this stuff, and will > keep notes so we can decide how to deal with it. Either link to it from > the website, create a new page or whatever. Hi Manolis, created directories for gr ;-) If you need any help or an account to directly upload any files please let me know. Please note the font used in all flyers (headlines are in VGA Rounded by Volkswagen AG, free for non-commercial use) is Gentium for a good reason: There are greek fonts as well as kyrillic etc. ;-) Thank you for opening the thread! Best regards, Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 20:40:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2811065670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieter@dkluenter.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACD248FC17 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieter@dkluenter.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Nov 2008 20:40:56 -0000 Received: from p579A237B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO rubin.l4b.de) [87.154.35.123] by mail.gmx.net (mp046) with SMTP; 20 Nov 2008 21:40:56 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1968985 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18JfslxF40JarS9vs28N9PPmqcThifpo/0I7LVCrM p9LuDQ+5wZ5gPz Received: by rubin.l4b.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A624A2CC15E; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:40:53 +0100 (CET) From: "Dieter Kluenter" To: Toby Burress In-Reply-To: <20081120185607.GB60958@lithium.delete.org> (Toby Burress's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:56:07 -0500") References: <87iqqifj18.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> <20081120185607.GB60958@lithium.delete.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:40:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87bpwa167e.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5600000000000001 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: some more errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:40:59 -0000 Toby Burress writes: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 05:40:03PM +0100, Dieter Kluenter wrote: >> Hi, >> now reading >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/secure.html >>=20 >> there are better ways to model this sort of access control (example 8 >> and example 9) man slapd.access(5) describes a 'privilege model' that >> is more applicable. Your examples are not wrong but only state of the >> art in 1998, and OpenLDAP has been developed actively since then. > > heh, you think that's bad, you should see the tree I inherited in > my current job. I can imagine :-) > > I'll see if I can rework that section. This would be great. >> The examaple 10 creating a management group, is absolutely bogus. >> The attribute type memberuid has syntax IA5string, but your example >> shows attribute values of distinguishedName syntax. > > I believe that is a result of my understanding of the way pam_ldap > handled memberUid on FreeBSD. Basically, if you have a group, and > you only want members of that group to be able to auth via PAM, you > need the entire DN in that group's memberUid attributes. I show > this in 3.1.1 of the article. PAM can be configured to look either for groupOfNames member groupOfUniqueNames uniqueMember posixGroup memberUid All three attribute types have different syntaxes and values. Just as a request from my side, doen't use groupOfUniqueNames unless you have read and understood RFC-4517, section 3.3.21, and you really want to implement it. -Dieter --=20 Dieter Kl=C3=BCnter | Systemberatung http://www.dpunkt.de/buecher/2104.html sip: +49.180.1555.7770535 GPG Key ID:8EF7B6C6 53=C2=B008'09,95"N 10=C2=B008'02,42"E From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 20:43:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC91065672 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:43:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieter@dkluenter.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDE598FC0C for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:43:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dieter@dkluenter.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Nov 2008 20:17:13 -0000 Received: from p579A237B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO rubin.l4b.de) [87.154.35.123] by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 20 Nov 2008 21:17:13 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1968985 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18dH+Ic/JodL4j+ooj6q4qYcIAR7/8PWbggF11a/e RgBNOJORvKycqt Received: by rubin.l4b.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6F732CC15E; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:17:12 +0100 (CET) From: "Dieter Kluenter" To: Toby Burress In-Reply-To: <20081120184803.GA60958@lithium.delete.org> (Toby Burress's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:48:03 -0500") References: <87myfufl8u.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> <20081120184803.GA60958@lithium.delete.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:17:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87bpwatanr.fsf@rubin.l4b.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.55 Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LDAP Authentication X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:43:56 -0000 Toby Burress writes: > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:52:17PM +0100, Dieter Kluenter wrote: >> Hi, >> I just stumpled upon >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/ldap-auth/client.html >>=20 >> In examples 7 you are presenting a ruby script to modify a >> userpassword. In this script you use some sort of ldapmodify to change >> the password value. This is a NO NO. Never modify a password this >> way and please do not propagate this. >> The proper way is to call the extended operation passwordModify >> (RFC-3062). The shell script of example 6 calls ldappasswd(1), which >> calls this extended operation. > > Unfortunately it doesn't look like ruby-ldap supports RFC-3062. > This specific example, iirc, was adapted from a script I wrote to > modify passwords in an Active Directory server, which requires a > specific (crazy) kind of ldapmodify. I gave up unsing ruby, as the 2 available modules, net-ldap and ruby-ldap are not actively maintained. As far as I remember both modules were able to call controls. AD doesn't store passwords, authentication is handeled by kerberos. At least the few AD's I had to integrate. > > However, from the RFC it looks like this extension is specifically > to allow the directory to manage the password backend even when > such backend isn't the directory itself (which my article doesn't > cover). While I'll add a section about this and the passwordModify > operation, I think it is not terrible to use ldapModify to change > passwords, as long as (a) the users are in fact kept in the directory, > and (b) the admin is aware that he'll have to change his scripts > if that changes in the future. Well you may do what ever you want in your own network, but as a official FreeBSD publication, it should refer to the standards and best practice rules. This documentation is aimed at people who are new to FreeBSD and to OpenLDAP and it should be our mutual aim to present samples best practice and compliance. We at OpenLDAP suffer from bad written docs that are spread all over the net. -Dieter --=20 Dieter Kl=C3=BCnter | Systemberatung http://www.dpunkt.de/buecher/2104.html sip: +49.180.1555.7770535 GPG Key ID:8EF7B6C6 53=C2=B008'09,95"N 10=C2=B008'02,42"E From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 21:21:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D621065670 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DACB8FC08 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:21:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so147148qwb.7 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:21:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=gbtYSuQ6Ebg08QCc4lQQSHw1Bh5NAev5j9/03sMYWkw=; b=qamYT79Z6jxHHtCCdGfeXLcoLhXpQZ08xpTVfGAzcqaKUdW30YgJWtspz807kGZYSY 9ecVlGKDzql4nfhyiPFHMoydQtGCPNLV68lbud/9ATaMItrnIpR4L7ImtXppU/EzFr1H gkcK6SSmFQvssDl9zxl9qjj7rZLVCN2W0R5Es= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=CJOpMPHbu0Ye0izHr+88DxS3CzHmYBiHsuth328SUmNDbJKdAz4OZXZVEBMdmt9D6z gP/OwG0jf6VGkKOMuCT176dLbw+auMn9TWHosJqKu5KlgFZlq2A9Ztqw+o/fHqn6BckJ VD5TIoJpW1smlH+uLGCoUv2VsL5d1cLjdG6Hc= Received: by 10.214.114.21 with SMTP id m21mr2992767qac.109.1227216107870; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:21:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([190.177.216.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm1154770yxq.9.2008.11.20.13.21.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, DS@praxisvermittlung24.de Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:21:43 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> In-Reply-To: <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811201921.43412.gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:21:49 -0000 On Thursday 20 November 2008 5:04:40 pm Daniel Seuffert wrote: > Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > >> Wouldn't it be nice to have some FreeBSD specific splash > >> screens in the artwork section or elsewhere and you mention > >> it in your section? Maybe it would be good idea to ask > >> on advocacy for proposals? > > > > Indeed .. I've been thinking about this for a long time ... there's a > > severe lack of FreeBSD related artwork .. so much so that I was thinking > > on paying some artists I know to come up with a series of FreeBSD > > boot/splash/backgrounds/sleeves and CD-DVD cover images ... > > > > Peer Schaefer's work (CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD) is > > impecable, but he seems to be the only one working on FreeBSD art: > > > > http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork/ > > > > I translated the text on his CD-ROM labels, sleeves and cases for FreeBSD > > into spanish in order to get some "globalized" advocacy: > > > > http://www.wolldingwacht.de/foss/freebsd/cdrom-artwork-es/ > > I suggest you have a look at: > http://misc.allbsd.de/CD-Stuff/ > > You can find any CD-/DVD-label I have ever produced for an > event and afaik there's every BSD you might need (if I have > forgotten something please let me know). You don't have an idea how much time I spent looking for those CD-/DVD-labels ... Finally .. there they are !! _Thank_You_! If you ever come up with some CD/DVD sleeves and cases, just let me know and I'll do the spanish translation :) ... and .. ahm .. DragonFlyBSD seems to be missing ;) > > On august this year, Daniel Seuffert was asking for posters to use at > > events: > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2008-August/003701.ht > >ml > > Yes, that was me. We have 2 posters available now: > http://misc.allbsd.de/Poster/FreeBSD-Blue-PosterA2.tif > (designed by Aron Schlesinger) > > http://misc.allbsd.de/Poster/beastie_end.pdf > (designed by Lars Engels aka lme@FreeBSD.org) > > I want to have more posters (5 or more) if possible > > > I believe OpenBSD sets the standar on this one .. with new OpenBSD > > related art on every release, posters, t-shirts, lots of stickers and so > > on ... > > no doubt > > > I've been hesitant on wether or not to bring this issue up on > > freebsd-advocacy but if I'm not alone on this one, I'm willing to do so. > > we should pick up the idea from Manolis with the new forum > imho as well as advocacy You guys lead, I'll follow :) > > I thought that Anton Gural's work would have put an end to this ... but > > it did not :( > > artwork is a never ending story, you cannot have to much of > it... > > On a side note: > Just in case you haven't seen it yet: We have a lot of > flyers available in English, French, German > > http://misc.allbsd.de/Flyer/FreeBSD/ > > Maybe somebody is willing to translate to Spanish? ;-) Will do ;) > - Daniel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 21:22:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 623D31065675 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63688FC18 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L3Gyu-00032t-CO for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:32 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:32 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:32 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:22:24 +0100 Lines: 219 Message-ID: References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081009 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> Sender: news Subject: Re: Adding splash screen section to handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:38 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > Had to use my other email address so i could bottom post. > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: PÁLI Gábor János [mailto:pali.gabor@googlemail.com]On Behalf Of >> Gabor >> PALI >> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:06 AM >> To: joeb@a1poweruser.com >> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org >> Subject: Re: updateing splash screen faq >> >> Hi joeb, >> >> I started to review your proposed changes, and I have some comments: >> >> >>> "This makes for a visually cleaner experience getting to the X11 >>> Desktop Display Manager login screen and/or virtual console login >>> prompt." >> >> Sorry, I do not understand this sentence. >> >> > > There are 2 basic environments available in Freebsd, The first is the > default command line environment which has 8 virtual consoles controlled > by the F1 - F8 keys. When you boot the system you arrive at the F1 > virtual console login prompt. The is the environment a user would see > after a new install from cd. The second environment is the X11 Desktop > environment. After a user installs Xorg and one of the desktop managers, > gnome, kde, or Xfce like explained in the handbook they can launch the > desktop from the command line by using the startx command. Some X11 > users may select NOT to stop at the virtual console login prompt at boot > time but go directlly to the X11 desktop. They would use the display > manager of Xorg called xdm, or the the display manager of gnome called > gdm or the the display manager of kde called kdm. These display managers > basically provides a graphical login screen in place of the virtual > console login prompt. > > In virtual console command line environment the splash screen would hide > all the boot probe messages and startup messages before displaying the > login prompt. > > In X11 environments the users would get a visually clearer system start > up experience resembling something closer to what an ms/xp user would see. > >> >> I do not think you should mention every detail. In my opinion, it would >> be better to put all the text into the Handbook, then reference it from >> the FAQ (if you want to write all these things down step by step). Or >> why do not simply reference the corresponding manual pages for example? >> >> I think your changes make the answer too long, a FAQ entry should be >> more compact, a quick way to answer a problem, as it is the original >> version. To be honest, I am reluctant a bit to include all of >> your text in the FAQ in the first round. >> >> I would prefer a simple fix to remove the /boot/loader.rc part and >> include some manual page references. Well, here is my recommendation: >> > > First of all, the handbook does not have any reference to the splash > screen function. The only documentation on the splash screen is in the > FAQ. You should know that all ready. I agree with you that the splash > screen documentation should be removed from the FAQ and placed in the > handbook. Complete and full documentation is what is needed and the > handbook is the place it belongs. On that point I do not think the > splash screen belongs under the section dealing with X11 because it > really has nothing to do with X11. I think it should be in a new > sub-section, in section "3.0 UNIX Basics" after 3.2 Virtual Consoles and > Terminals, titled 3.3 Boot time Splash screen. > > So I have rewritten what I posted before and made some technical > corrections and added some more explanation background text. If you > check out the handbook Chapter 31 Firewalls you will see that I wrote > the whole chapter. I don't have the time nor the patiences to work > through the handbook SGML coding and approval process. So I am going to > hand off this new handbook section to you to do as you want with it. > Just give me my credit do as "Contributed by Joseph J. Barbish". > > > > > Handbook Section 3.0 UNIX Basics - 3.3 Boot time Splash screen > > > FreeBSD has a feature to allow the display of a "splash screen" in place > of seeing the boot messages rolling by. This makes for a clearer > visually experience getting to the legacy UNIX virtual console text > login prompt and/or the X-Display Manager graphical login screen. > > There are 2 basic environments available in FreeBSD. The first is the > default legacy UNIX virtual console text command line environment that > has 8 virtual consoles controlled by the F1 - F8 keyboard keys. When you > boot the system you arrive at the F1 virtual console text login prompt. > The second environment is the X11 Desktop graphical environment. After a > user installs X11. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-install.html > > And one of the graphical desktop managers, gnome, kde, or Xfce. > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html > > They can launch the X11 desktop from the command line by using the > startx command. Some X11 users may select NOT to stop at the virtual > console login prompt at boot time, but go directly to the X11 desktop > display manager's graphical login screen. They could use the display > manager of Xorg called xdm, or the display manager of gnome called gdm > or the display manager of kde called kdm or one of the other display > managers provided in the ports system. These display managers basically > provides a graphical login screen in place of the default legacy UNIX > virtual console text login prompt and after a successful login, puts the > user in their graphical windowed desktop. > > In the virtual console text command line environment the splash screen > would hide all the boot probe messages and task startup messages before > displaying the login prompt. > > In X11 environment the users would get a visually clearer system start > up experience resembling something closer to what a (Microsoft Windows > or non-unix type system) user would experience. > > > 3.3.1 Splash Screen Function; > > The "splash screen" function only supports 256 color bitmap (*.bmp) or > ZSoft PCX (*.pcx) files. In addition, the splash image files must have a > resolution of 320x200 or less to work because that is the default video > support FreeBSD provides. Your 320x200 "splash screen" image will be > displayed as a small block in the center of a solid white background > screen. > > If you want support for larger video resolutions up to the max of your > video card you have to add VESA support by loading the VESA module > during system boot. VESA support gives you the ability to display a > "splash screen" image that fills the whole display screen. > > While the "splash screen" is being displayed during the booting process > you can hit any keyboard key to return to the boot message display. > > The "splash screen" defaults to becoming your screen saver. After a time > period of non-use your screen will change to the "splash screen" and > cycles through steps of changing intensity of the image, from bright > intensity to a very dark intensity and over again. You can override this > default "splash screen" (screen saver) behavior by adding the saver= > option (screen saver) statement in /etc/rc.conf. The saver= option has > several built-in screen savers to choose from. Such as saver="warp". > This default "splash screen" screen saver and /etc/rc.conf, saver= > option screen saver only applies to virtual consoles. It has no effect > on X11 desktop display managers. > > At boot time with the "splash screen" enabled you still see a few boot > loader messages leading up to and including the boot options menu and > the timed wait count down prompt before the "splash screen" is displayed. > > Sample splash screen files can be downloaded from the gallery at > http://www.baldwin.cx/splash/. > > > 3.3.2 Enabling the Splash Screen Function; > > Your "splash screen" (*.bmp) or (*.pcx) file has to be placed in the > /boot directory. > > For default boot display resolution (256 color, 320x200 or less); > Edit /boot/loader.conf so it contains the following: > splash_bmp_load="YES" > bitmap_load="YES" > bitmap_name="/boot/splash.bmp" > > > For larger video resolutions up to the max of your video card; > Edit /boot/loader.conf so it contains the following: > vesa_load="YES" > splash_bmp_load="YES" > bitmap_load="YES" > bitmap_name="/boot/splash.bmp" > > > The above assumes you are using /boot/splash.bmp for your splash screen. > If you would rather use a PCX file, use these statements plus the > vesa_load="YES" statement depending on the resolution. > splash_pcx_load="YES" > bitmap_load="YES" > bitmap_name="/boot/splash.pcx" > > You are not restricted to using "splash" as the file name. You can name > it anything you want as long as it's a .bmp or .pcx file type. Such as > splash_640x400.bmp or blue_wave.bmp. > > > There are 2 another loader.conf options you may be interested in. > > beastie_disable="YES" > Will stop the boot options menu from being displayed. > You will still get the timed wait count down prompt. > Even with the display of the boot options menu disabled, entering an 1-6 > option selection at the timed wait count down prompt will enact that > boot option. > > Loader_logo="beastie" > This will replace the default words "FREE BDS" which are displayed to > the right of the boot options menu with the colored beastie logo like > releases in the past had. > Hi, As I've just replied to original thread: IIRC even with VESA there's a limit of 1024x768 for boot splash images. You may want to mention sysutils/bsd-splash-changer port with which you can have splash image chosen from your collection randomly at each boot. M. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 21:22:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20341065677 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D8A8FC1E for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-doc@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L3GfE-0002GC-Si for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:02:12 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:02:12 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:02:12 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:02:03 +0100 Lines: 79 Message-ID: References: <491DDA22.7070801@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081009 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <491DDA22.7070801@FreeBSD.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: updateing splash screen faq X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:22:39 -0000 Gabor PALI wrote: > Hi joeb, > > I started to review your proposed changes, and I have some comments: > > >> "This makes for a visually cleaner experience getting to the Xorg >> Desktop Display Manager logon screen and/or virtual console logon >> prompt." > > Sorry, I do not understand this sentence. > > >> The "splash screen" function only supports (*.bmp) or (*.pcx) files >> of any resolution supported by VESA. An 320x200 "splash screen" image >> will be displayed as a small block in the center of a solid white >> background screen. An 640x400 or larger "splash screen" image fills >> the whole display screen. The "splash screen" function will >> interrogate the "splash screen" file pointed to by the (bitmap_name=) >> option and auto load VESA to support the required resolution for you. >> >> [..] > > I do not think you should mention every detail. In my opinion, it would > be better to put all the text into the Handbook, then reference it from > the FAQ (if you want to write all these things down step by step). Or > why do not simply reference the corresponding manual pages for example? > > I think your changes make the answer too long, a FAQ entry should be > more compact, a quick way to answer a problem, as it is the original > version. To be honest, I am reluctant a bit to include all of > your text in the FAQ in the first round. > > I would prefer a simple fix to remove the /boot/loader.rc part and > include some manual page references. Well, here is my recommendation: > > > 11.18. How do I install a splash screen and where do I find them? > > FreeBSD have a feature to allow the display of "splash" screens during > the boot messages. The splash screens currently must be a 256 color > bitmap (*.BMP) or ZSoft PCX (*.PCX) file. In addition, they must have a > resolution of 320x200 or less to work on standard VGA adapters. If you > compile VESA support into your kernel (see vga(4)), then you can use > larger bitmaps up to 1024x768. The actual VESA support can either be > compiled directly into the kernel with the VESA kernel config option or > by loading the VESA kernel module during bootup. > > To use a splash screen, you need to modify /boot/loader.conf to contain > the following: > > splash_bmp_load="YES" > bitmap_load="YES" > > This assumes you are using /boot/splash.bmp for your splash screen. If > you would rather use a PCX file, copy it to /boot/splash.pcx, modify > /boot/loader.conf to contain: > > splash_pcx_load="YES" > bitmap_load="YES" > bitmap_name="/boot/splash.pcx" > > Now all you need is a splash screen. For that you can surf on over to > the gallery at http://www.baldwin.cx/splash/. For further options, > please see the splash(4), loader.conf(5) manual pages. > > > Cheers, > :g > Hi, IIRC even with VESA there's a limit of 1024x768 for boot splash images. You may want to mention sysutils/bsd-splash-changer port with which you can have splash image chosen randomly from your collection. M. 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([190.177.216.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm2558003yxj.7.2008.11.20.13.23.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:23:01 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Content-Disposition: inline From: Gonzalo Nemmi Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:22:58 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200811201922.58163.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:23:03 -0000 On Thursday 20 November 2008 12:26:38 pm Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: > > Dear members, > > > > > > A few days ago we received a generous contribution from Joseph J. > > Barbish on using splash screens in FreeBSD [1]. Initially, it started > > as a fix for the FAQ, but after I suggested Joe to insert the > > descriptive part of his work into the Handbook, he offered an entire > > section for referencing from the FAQ. > > > > He recommended to put this section into Chapter 3 ("UNIX Basics"), but I > > would like to receive some comments on this before I start to integrate > > it into that chapter. (Do you think it is needed, if yes, it is a good > > place for that and so on.) Of course, after it has been moved to the > > Handbook, it would shorten the corresponding FAQ entry to contain only > > the necessary references and to avoid unnecessary duplication of the > > content. > > > > > > Thank you for your comments in advance. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > :g > > > > [1] > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2008-November/014989.html > > I followed the discussion and I think this is useful info that should be > part of the documentation. The submitted text looks ok more or less (and > I am quite sure you will it touch it up anyway ;) ). I am more concerned > about the placement of this info though. > Supposedly the first part of the Handbook is more or less introductory > and designed to teach fundamental UNIX concepts. Granted, this rule is > violated a few times, some parts are way more advanced and refer to > later sections. However I believe we should keep chapter 3 focused on > exactly the title: UNIX basics. Imagine yourself being a beginner and > trying to find some useful info on basic UNIX commands. Would you rather > find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I doubt it. What's more, > you would not be able to fully understand what is going on. > There is another possible section for this info: Chapter 12 (boot). If > you come to think about it, the splash screen is more related to booting > than actual system operation (the "basics"). In fact there is a section > on loader.conf in chapter 12 and I think this info could be adjusted to > fit the chapter nicely. First: Thanks Joseph and Gabor for your work. Now, and for what is worth, I've been following the thread too and 1) Yes .. I think it's Joseph's work should be available on the Handbook. 2) I agree with Manolis for the same reasons he exposed. Even if Chapter 3 is a good enough place to insert this info, Chapter 12 seems to be an even better one. > There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes to > mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a "Misc > settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to categorize > stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the FAQ. > > By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus is > to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) > > manolis@ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-doc@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-doc > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-doc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Once again, thank you Joseph and Gabor for your work .. and just in case, a friend and I have fooled around with splash screen and boot splash a not so long time ago .. in case you are interested (discussion is in spanish but C code is not =P ): http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2494 http://www.penguinpower.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=2493 Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 22:41:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F413106567A; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AE48FC1E; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAKMfLgn064588; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:41:21 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAKMfLGP064584; Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:41:21 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:41:21 GMT Message-Id: <200811202241.mAKMfLGP064584@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/129024: [patch] ipfw(8) improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:41:22 -0000 Old Synopsis: IPFW improvements New Synopsis: [patch] ipfw(8) improvements Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Nov 20 22:40:32 UTC 2008 Responsible-Changed-Why: Reclassify. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=129024 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 00:28:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB3341065743 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from pittgoth.com (pittgoth.com [205.134.163.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3028FC0A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost.fbsdsecure.org (net-ix.gw.ai.net [205.134.160.6]) (authenticated bits=0) by pittgoth.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mAL0D8In068883 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:13:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from trhodes@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:13:01 -0500 From: Tom Rhodes To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20081120191301.1e3ed12e.trhodes@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <49259716.6040207@gmail.com> References: <491E9A3E.2070201@a1poweruser.com> <492544FC.9090504@FreeBSD.org> <4925739E.4060208@gmail.com> <49259459.1000700@FreeBSD.org> <49259716.6040207@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pgj@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:28:11 -0000 On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:57:58 +0200 Manolis Kiagias wrote: > Gabor PALI wrote: > > > > > >> Would you rather find the discussion of a splash screen useful? I > >> doubt it. What's more, you would not be able to fully understand what > >> is going on. There is another possible section for this info: Chapter > >> 12 (boot). > >> > > > > Hm, I think it is a great idea! What do you think of appending it to > > section ``12.3 The Boot Manager and Boot Stages'' (as a sub-section)? > > > > > > > > Yes, exactly what I had in mind. I was reading section 12.3.3 where > /boot/loader is discussed while writing the previous reply. > > >> There are could also be other places, but this is the only that comes > >> to mind at the moment. One could also argue we need something of a > >> "Misc settings" chapter, where all this useful but maybe hard to > >> categorize stuff would go. But then again, this maybe the role of the > >> FAQ. > >> > > > > I recommended to not to include the entire text in the FAQ itself for > > Joe because I think the FAQ should be "compact and quick". Joe wrote a > > complete and precise description on the topic, so it should be placed in > > the Handbook and referenced (only) from the FAQ. > > > > I am trying to defer the introduction of a potential "Misc Settings" > > chapter until we really encounter things that do not fit in the actual > > contents or outgrew their limits. > > > > > > > > I agree. Most of the misc topics still seem to fit in the standard > chapters if studied carefully. > > >> By the way, the above is just a suggestion, if the general consensus > >> is to merge it into the Basics chapter, I won't object :) > >> > > > > At the moment, I would prefer to inject it into Section 12.3. If there > > is no explicit objection in the next few days, I will try start to work > > on its SGML version and send a patch to the list for review. > > > > Well, let's call all the "usual suspects" ;) to comment... > _______________________________________________ No objection. :) -- Tom Rhodes From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 01:56:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: DOC@FREEBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075E2106564A for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cursos@inforedwbcc.net) Received: from quebec.vianetworks.es (smtp.vianetworks.es [213.236.6.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACDD08FC08 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cursos@inforedwbcc.net) Received: from srvmail.com (static-157-109-235-87.ipcom.comunitel.net [87.235.109.157] (may be forged)) (authenticated) by quebec.vianetworks.es (8.11.6p2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id mAL1eQh25496 for ; 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Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:16:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from mail.sw-sec.de (mail.sw-sec.de [212.204.60.86]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2244D8FC08 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Received: from [192.168.2.105] ([93.216.141.219]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.sw-sec.de (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id mAL7GbUT056971 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from DS@praxisvermittlung24.de) Message-ID: <49266054.5070703@praxisvermittlung24.de> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:16:36 +0100 From: Daniel Seuffert Organization: Seuffert & Waidmann User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200811201515.31281.gnemmi@gmail.com> <4925B4C8.8080306@praxisvermittlung24.de> <200811201921.43412.gnemmi@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200811201921.43412.gnemmi@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Add a Splash Screen Section to the Handbook? X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Seuffert List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:16:39 -0000 Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > On Thursday 20 November 2008 5:04:40 pm Daniel Seuffert wrote: >> Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: > You don't have an idea how much time I spent looking for those > CD-/DVD-labels ... Finally .. there they are !! > > _Thank_You_! You're welcome :) > If you ever come up with some CD/DVD sleeves and cases, just let me know and > I'll do the spanish translation :) > > ... and .. ahm .. DragonFlyBSD seems to be missing ;) Uh, ah, oh, shame on me! http://misc.allbsd.de/CD-Stuff/DragonFly%20BSD/ If you need any help or an account to upload the spanish files as well as plain text files please let me know asap via private mail. Best regards and thank you for your work! Daniel From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 21 07:33:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AC31065673; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:33:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4E88FC0A; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl63-61.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.190.61]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mAL7WxTP024321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:33:05 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mAL7Wxkv006139; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:32:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mAL7WxTA006138; Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:32:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <87bpwa4slo.fsf@kobe.laptop> (Giorgos Keramidas's message of "Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:08:51 +0200") Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:31:50 +0200 Message-ID: <87prkp5yc9.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <87bpwa4slo.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mAL7WxTP024321 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.299, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.10, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-doc@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/share/misc docbook.css X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:33:09 -0000 On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:08:51 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Yep. I didn't see any major objections to the [after] style, so I > will commit the new style-sheet later today. Committed in rev 1.14 of `docbook.css'. Thanks to everyone who looked at the new pages and wrote back with comments :)