From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 15:05:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5170F1065675 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34DB8FC22 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:05:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (f054096041.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.96.41]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML21M-1K7tZb1Hr6-0000IQ; Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:51:15 +0200 Message-ID: <48552C66.3030804@janh.de> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:51:18 +0200 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emulation list freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+hZJ1KjCnvT//w1Ehu+0kNDU829ugc0YNySzO VVCbKy4xOsUaqlh9g0qV54GX31lfMTmNUUnuphJdBroPHtus5X Z6fWWKKWimd7ry8bYZjNw== Cc: Gerald Pfeifer Subject: wine-kthread X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:05:51 -0000 I have got two questions about wine-kthread, one about the future of that patch and one about a current issue I got. 1. The need for wine-kthread: wine-kthread was removed from the port with 0.9.45 as the pthread version was supposed to "be better by now". For me, the popular game Warcraft 3 would not work without wine-kthread and it still segfaults immediately with wine(-pthread) as of 1.0.r4. (The German bsdforen wiki still recommends wine-kthread for quite a few games. I do not know if that is outdated.) In a long email exchange, Tijl Coosemans was extremely helpful analyzing the problem and explaining to me the underlying issues. (Thanks again!) The result was the patch-kthread to be found on the wiki. The patch actually changes two things: (a) Reintroduce wine-kthread as it seems to be needed. (b) Move wine from 0x7bf00400 to 0x81000400 as dri needs more heap for Warcraft 3 on certain occasions than is available with the standard base address. (I could reproducibly crash it with certain larger maps.) Tijl told me that at least the second issue would be fixed with FreeBSD 7, but my later testing at the time of 7.0-BETA4 indicated that this was not the case. Maybe it was just my failure to separate the correct part of the patch. Tijl did post on wine-devel about the problem: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-devel/2007-September/059426.html The only reply does not sound promising to me with my limited understanding of the underlying issue. Since it would probably break other application, Tijl wold me the the patch could not go back to the port. (See below: I found the first one myself that is affected.) Since FreeBSD 7 might have been able to help, the issue was postponed. 2. My current issue: As I tried to fix a problem with an old application I wrote with ancient Borland C++Builder 4, I tried to make BCB4 run using wine. BCB4 fails linking a project as long as wine is compiled with patch-kthread -- no matter if I start it with wine-ktread or wine(-pthread). The problem might be the 0x8 address: "Cannot reserve virtual memory at addr 90000000 for 33554432 bytes" -- I could provide more details, but I guess they are not needed. For the same project (a component needed for my application), linking works without patch-kthread. 3. The future of wine-kthread: (a) Would it be possible to build a wine version with wine-kthread at 0x81 and wine(-pthread) at 0x7b? (b) Is there a future for wine-kthread in the FreeBSD port, maybe as an OPTION? (c) Should the heap issue be solvable on FreeBSD 7? With (a), my current problem would be solved for the moment. I tried to analyze which files are affected by patch-kthread to be able to switch around and make building both versions easier, but since there seem to be quite a few files in the wine package that change with every recompile, I am not sure if I found the correct ones. My guess is that nothing outside loader/ is affected during build and only bin/wine, bin/wine-pthread, and bin/wine-kthread are affected for the package. Currently, (b) would only help me a little, since I use two more wine patches solving issues with Warcraft 3 network (same for others on Linux) and opengl (probably specific to my graphic chipset), but I hope these regressions will eventually get fixed in wine. (I did test the kthread issues to exist without further patches, too.) Anyhow, since the wine port recently got OPTIONS... Of course, (c) is the major point. It would be so much nicer not to have patches anymore, especially since they could become incompatible at any time. I repeated most of my earlier tests on wine-1.0.r4 with same results. Looking at the changes, 1.0.r5 should not change anything, but I could try again. I depend neither on Warcraft 3 nor on BCB4, thus the issue is not extremely high priority for me. Anyhow, I am interested in fixing it, but unfortunately my understanding of the issue is too limited to really try to fix it myself. Of course, I can provide more details, but this email already got too long and maybe they are not needed. Thanks in advance for any help, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 16 11:06:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1059106566B for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FFB8FC1F for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5GB6q4o036678 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:52 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m5GB6qRw036674 for freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:52 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:52 GMT Message-Id: <200806161106.m5GB6qRw036674@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:06:53 -0000 Current FreeBSD problem reports Critical problems Serious problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/21463 emulation [linux] Linux compatability mode should not allow setu o kern/97326 emulation [linux] file descriptor leakage in linux emulation o kern/117010 emulation [linux] linux_getdents() get something like buffer ove 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o kern/11165 emulation [ibcs2] IBCS2 doesn't work correctly with PID_MAX 9999 o kern/29698 emulation [linux] [patch] linux ipcs doesn'work o kern/39201 emulation [linux] [patch] ptrace(2) and rfork(RFLINUXTHPN) confu o kern/41543 emulation [patch] [request] easier wine/w23 support a kern/72920 emulation [linux]: path "prefixing" is not done on unix domain s o kern/73777 emulation [linux] [patch] linux emulation: root dir special hand o kern/91293 emulation [svr4] [patch] *Experimental* Update to the SVR4 emula o ports/91318 emulation [fix] graphics/linux_dri: works on amd64 too o ports/121800 emulation x11-toolkits/linux-openmotif - OpenMotif upgrade to 2. o kern/122318 emulation [linux] [cmake]: Segmentation fault when running Linux o ports/123960 emulation Port fix: archivers/linux-par2cmdline - better handlin o ports/123964 emulation Mk fix: bsd.linux-rpm.mk - Handling of NOPORTDOCS 12 problems total. From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 05:37:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053C7106566B; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB078FC15; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:37:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5556D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.85.109]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895DB2E1FB; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:37:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9010C10870B; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:37:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1213681070; bh=TB589SCal1murQx1HTaJlskgsPDVjiimM 1nG3cHyCbE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fcYNub8tg4CEnky39n3XdLECNwJfGNfXJ2G6zXlqR3tDNpQkquAMtVmUVgvZt5dkF xpcd2pZknH/YVSczjkD5aB7oFdg3jgqmPHExmclO6CtOGftDfME/L6XO2GFsZfTVSHQ ucMAbX1Q9HBSepwco2HP/NoFdXCgdzfE9S7K/ziUfOseMOM/vGB7uR5Am2lR/IvP3fB oCPDnf+xo7JzpZ2WTDY3m7zG34e3bBMiBmS5lG+lRpjIqGTYjBBWR7CTSmnTx9E9kdO TWIcWxIGPbPzNiBZqr4ysV9S3GLtC9tdSeFMVdOfrf8t8lf/hRA1Xvweu1jD3aMD5kc ujNEFUxnA== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m5H5bn3B062979; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:37:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:37:49 +0200 Message-ID: <20080617073749.18252orhlv2c81ic@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:37:49 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Lars Eighner References: <20080616161543.A1129@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> In-Reply-To: <20080616161543.A1129@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.004, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 1.40, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10, SMILEY -0.50) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: linux f8: futex op 128 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:37:59 -0000 Quoting Lars Eighner (from Mon, 16 Jun =20 2008 16:26:28 -0500 (CDT)): > Evidently I hosed linux compatibility in the attemp to upgrade from fc4 to > f8. No, you didn't. :) > I believe I followed the instructions left over from the fc6 upgrade > exactly, and after installing f8, and editing sysctl.conf and make.conf > according to instructions I forced rebuilding all the linux-* ports > with portupgrade -f linux-*. > > However when I attempted to run linux firefox I get tons of futex, op 128 > missing messages on the system console, firefox eats nearly all the cpu et= c. > > Now I googled on this problem and discover that futex is not in 7.0 releas= e, > but is in stable. But I am running stable. What is more I can see > linux_futex .c and .h in the system source. Nonetheless, I made /usr/src > clean and rebuilt the kernel. And then I reinstalled linux f8 again. Sam= e > result. > > I'm not sure if this is a port problem or a system problem, but perhaps so= me > has some suggestions. In any case, emulation@ (CCed) is the better list to discuss this. I =20 don't remember if the fixes for this are in -stable yet, I'm sure =20 Roman will chime in and say something about it. From which date is your -stable, or better, can you please go into =20 the linux compat directory in /usr/src (where linux_futex.* is) and =20 provide the output of "ident linux*"? This way we know for sure at =20 which compatibility level your linuxulator is. Bye, Alexander. --=20 A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular. =09=09-- Adlai Stevenson http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 17 06:55:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326651065671 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:55:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12A728FC29 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 35D7116B544; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:26:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.95]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4DFD416B543; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:26:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:22:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:22:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20080617073749.18252orhlv2c81ic@webmail.leidinger.net> Message-ID: <20080617011805.A1116@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <20080616161543.A1129@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> <20080617073749.18252orhlv2c81ic@webmail.leidinger.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.9 required=10.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,OACYS_SINGLE,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE version=2.43 X-Spam-Level: Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports Subject: Re: linux f8: futex op 128 not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:55:55 -0000 On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting Lars Eighner (from Mon, 16 Jun 2008 > 16:26:28 -0500 (CDT)): > >> Evidently I hosed linux compatibility in the attemp to upgrade from fc4 >> to f8. > > No, you didn't. :) > > From which date is your -stable, or better, can you please go into the linux > compat directory in /usr/src (where linux_futex.* is) and provide the output > of "ident linux*"? This way we know for sure at which compatibility level > your linuxulator is. Err...never mind. That stable was from April. Today's fresh source tree and build eliminates the futex problem. Of course linux firefox with flash seg faults now, but I suppose this is progress of a sort. Wine firefox with flash seems to work, but won't acrobat. You can't have everything. Thanks for the reply. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 10:59:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B331065674 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rudi.kramer@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B688FC1A for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rudi.kramer@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q2so1025936uge.37 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:59:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=/v+tpkDVYBzKfx12xC0lozXw3uu0Y3lqDp5EJ3DC5Ck=; b=mtpfudJwLV2pG+0Nu5RZFMNHHhOe5Ff/HmB3D/XG61vrDsXVnYMrpyXEPV2hNJZfN8 GRyp+kM8MIyLDDMwfT0mtRmkZU9JnGe/5JWKaq9eoib5/vqeCKb9xk/e2RWSyyiclFup tXTiXQ3eFRlPnWOH9152oGWSnNzftxQf5K/cM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Zaw14MVN2d6EbBsa/hUE/+jg079GY+OsqcNvqwN3ION+Lt1dPgnCTi/vzo04M5TWkX pnH6zTLY8HtuiSPS9UziPkDr6zFu/5CZfmH15JNyRo5kCzVzXECu1sPD7b/R8TKbDuDD vKLRqibb+WYfESXXsdiF8/Bppxz7jUKKTxOFg= Received: by 10.67.40.15 with SMTP id s15mr10400683ugj.53.1213871427969; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.237.14 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6ca2dcd70806190330p331c529bm8bcb79e1c7aadf2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:30:27 +0200 From: "Rudi Kramer" To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:59:29 -0000 Hello, I needed to install linux_base-fc4 on a server, I wanted to install it via the packages so I checked on freshports and the package name is linux_base but linux_base.tgz did not exist on the freebsd ftp server. I checked and found linux_base-fc which I assume is the correct package name. Any idea why? Rudi From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 11:25:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0488D106566C for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:25:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C368FC1D for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:25:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K9IGK-0003n6-Lb; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:25:08 +0400 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1K9IH1-0000WT-2Q; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:25:51 +0400 To: "Rudi Kramer" References: <6ca2dcd70806190330p331c529bm8bcb79e1c7aadf2@mail.gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:25:51 +0400 In-Reply-To: <6ca2dcd70806190330p331c529bm8bcb79e1c7aadf2@mail.gmail.com> (Rudi Kramer's message of "Thu\, 19 Jun 2008 12\:30\:27 +0200") Message-ID: <84372144@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: linux_base-fc4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:25:11 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:30:27 +0200 Rudi Kramer wrote: > I needed to install linux_base-fc4 on a server, I wanted to install it Why do you need to install this package directly? Install any linux package you need and the right linux_base package will be used (i.e. installed). > via the packages so I checked on freshports and the package name is > linux_base but linux_base.tgz did not exist on the freebsd ftp server. % cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base-fc4 % make -V PKGNAME linux_base-fc-4_13 > I checked and found linux_base-fc which I assume is the correct > package name. > Any idea why? May be you were looking for the wrong package name. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 06:39:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1C7106566C; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDED8FC19; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:39:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57359.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.115.89]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2185F2E06D; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:39:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AD11324C9; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:39:07 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1213943947; bh=499STvLSp6FfTRDN760AFUrKvPhzs+euj VpVpCYHZhc=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=e6h99/znnBE8/jF8EJ3xrDxQ/OLwrFILmFf87CII4vP4gtGJesixYCfnJePeSbo64 9ma2DRz6dhquLXknR51+TFp7vJp7h7T+RyZpcBUmkckZ133EzV5EjGZ57AieVOkllP4 2/EVQ1gGEcz7LejL1V0wPy3ADXUmpnZA3CdVB+e1d01aIpJ2LlzSOWricy2cxQnPoU5 rXdGdF47cJBGFWVeOyaglqxBTX+9t4BKEjOiG39gKkyr2kIDLxP0/wYM5OKa10VyOLe Y4zVpisDWH7A+0lX+S6xT/JwN/F3ZXiGVDWHIZF0x5esoBpkAXbCLj8qE9X420Z7snv u/LOUQ9TA== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m5K6d6qr044778; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:39:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:39:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:39:06 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: John Kozubik References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> In-Reply-To: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: jamie@bishopston.net, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, narayan@neelum.com Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:39:15 -0000 Quoting John Kozubik (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 =20 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > First, a bounty has been posted here: > > http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html > From the site: ---snip--- I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for =20 running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9 =20 on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is =20 already a linux-flashplugin9 port. ---snip--- Comments from other people with some more money not included here... And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on =20 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate). Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is =20 nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native =20 firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the =20 linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6 =20 compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the =20 bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle =20 this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging =20 possibilities we have in the linuxulator. Note: AFAIK linux-flashplugin9 is not completely stable on linux either... Bye, Alexander. --=20 Leela: Well, goodnight. I'm gonna go make my dinners for the next month and freeze them. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 08:05:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898681065678; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (vlk.vlakno.cz [62.168.28.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A7BA8FC1E; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72903680075; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vlk.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SJZt1ZEKPV6K; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E5E67F704; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5K84GRM012747; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:16 +0200 From: Roman Divacky To: Alexander Leidinger Message-ID: <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org> References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: jamie@bishopston.net, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, narayan@neelum.com Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:05:14 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting John Kozubik (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 > 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > > >First, a bounty has been posted here: > > > >http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html > > > > From the site: > ---snip--- > I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for > running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9 > on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is > already a linux-flashplugin9 port. > ---snip--- > > Comments from other people with some more money not included here... > > And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on > 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate). > > Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is > nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native > firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the > linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6 > compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the > bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle > this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging > possibilities we have in the linuxulator. I tried to debug the flash9 and failed badly. It might be that I overlooked something trivial but... the flash9 is a big binary-only monster and basically the only trace of what its doing you can get is a syscall-trace. Which is not that much useful. I didnt find any missing syscalls or something like that and the fail is a complete mystery for me.... otoh I looked at this a LOONG time ago. I might want to look at it again (after some other things settle) anyway... I dont think that flash9 crashes are related to 2.6 emulation in any way. iirc it runs (and crashes) on 2.4 as well. I remember it crashes in $the_thing_that_ff_uses_to_report_bugs which was some proprietary app which got replaced in ff3.0, you might want to check what happened. anyway - if someone wants to debug this, feel free to contact me, I am willing to help roman _ From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 08:41:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272351065671; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64DB8FC1A; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A57359.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.115.89]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053992E200; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B75A133F24; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:08 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1213951268; bh=OD7/keunaS4EhdtnSBdZ375EaTdiM3Jb0 LW2v45U+cs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jA0aGf0eg5em97PsTk0ZOtLwjiFs4xPycLwcKdStM1Tk8/WGJvJql1d1aV11zIAwo /SpWvDn2owhT3v3zc7Vp7uChK/Saf2yHTrzRZidD90Z8JGT00tyUyUl7W3fNsG+oi4/ 6meN3lUEUu6R4abmoh1PGZhvlTK4wMBHwpNeCq2RHRxbpkmzgycooUvX4r7L/kTzXbq fXt03C9sWg7xoPqaHpyu4bLLaecqRrQ2t1O+FV1laaCPyGluPucIa+aQ/z/QYerXlzu m9gaCHfpbrx9dNz8fReVp63X39rkbJjQham8DSjdziyC10iA/f387iT94jm6vo6+5kx FdJpTtNkw== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id m5K8f6a7065195; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20080620104106.18826n68s55lwlc0@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:41:06 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Roman Divacky References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20080620080416.GB12112@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-RC2) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-13.504, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE 1.40, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: jamie@bishopston.net, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, narayan@neelum.com Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:41:17 -0000 Quoting Roman Divacky (from Fri, 20 Jun 2008 =20 10:04:16 +0200): > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:39:06AM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Quoting John Kozubik (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 >> 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): >> >> >First, a bounty has been posted here: >> > >> >http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html >> > >> >> From the site: >> ---snip--- >> I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for >> running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9 >> on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is >> already a linux-flashplugin9 port. >> ---snip--- >> >> Comments from other people with some more money not included here... >> >> And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on >> 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate). >> >> Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is >> nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native >> firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the >> linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6 >> compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the >> bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle >> this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging >> possibilities we have in the linuxulator. > > I tried to debug the flash9 and failed badly. It might be that I overlooke= d > something trivial but... > > the flash9 is a big binary-only monster and basically the only trace > of what its doing you can get is a syscall-trace. Which is not that much I think enabling the the linuxulator debug stuff and maybe adding some =20 more printfs at some places can reveal some more stuff... with some =20 in-deep reviewing of what happens. > useful. I didnt find any missing syscalls or something like that and the > fail is a complete mystery for me.... otoh I looked at this a LOONG time a= go. Which is in indication that there are some (subtle) differences =20 between the linuxulator and the real linux we have to track down. > I might want to look at it again (after some other things settle) > > > anyway... I dont think that flash9 crashes are related to 2.6 =20 > emulation in any > way. iirc it runs (and crashes) on 2.4 as well. I remember it crashes in Hmmm... now I'm not sure anymore, but I thought we had reports that it =20 runs better with 2.6... Bye, Alexander. --=20 I wish I was a sex-starved manicurist found dead in the Bronx!! http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137 From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 14:49:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC5106564A; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:49:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (scotth.emsphone.com [199.67.51.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F878FC23; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: from scotth.emsphone.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5KEUbOO007596; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:30:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) Received: (from shildret@localhost) by scotth.emsphone.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5KEUbbW007595; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:30:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from shildret@scotth.emsphone.com) From: "Scott T. Hildreth" To: Alexander Leidinger In-Reply-To: <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:30:36 -0500 Message-Id: <1213972236.1505.14.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: jamie@bishopston.net, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, narayan@neelum.com Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: shildreth@allantgroup.com List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:49:15 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Quoting John Kozubik (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 > 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): > > > First, a bounty has been posted here: > > > > http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html > > > Maybe the bounty would be better spent here, This was from an email on the gnome list from Joe Marcus Clarke "As to the point about Flash, Kris also mentioned that he has the ear of someone at Adobe who was hinting that a capable developer willing to sign an NDA could be given code to work on a native Flash plug-in port. This could bode well for PC-BSD and FreeBSD should someone step up to do this work." > From the site: > ---snip--- > I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for > running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9 > on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is > already a linux-flashplugin9 port. > ---snip--- > > Comments from other people with some more money not included here... > > And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on > 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate). > > Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is > nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native > firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the > linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6 > compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the > bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle > this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging > possibilities we have in the linuxulator. > > Note: AFAIK linux-flashplugin9 is not completely stable on linux either... > > Bye, > Alexander. > From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 15:45:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B11106567A for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1448FC1B for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@encontacto.net) Received: from HOME.encontacto.net ([189.190.8.164]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:45:10 -0500 id 000D5409.485BD087.0000965C Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by HOME.encontacto.net with local; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:44:59 -0500 id 0004AC1E.485BD07B.000044CE Received: from local65.local.net.mx (local65.local.net.mx [192.168.1.65]) by intranet.encontacto.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: <20080620104459.1393510x2w93m6ck@intranet.encontacto.net> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:44:59 -0500 From: eculp To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <1213972236.1505.14.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> In-Reply-To: <1213972236.1505.14.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.2-cvs) Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:45:20 -0000 Quoting "Scott T. Hildreth" : > > > On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 08:39 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: >> Quoting John Kozubik (from Thu, 19 Jun 2008 >> 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT)): >> >> > First, a bounty has been posted here: >> > >> > http://blog.kozubik.com/john_kozubik/2007/12/bounty-posted-f.html >> > >> > > Maybe the bounty would be better spent here, > > This was from an email on the gnome list from Joe Marcus Clarke =20 > > > "As to the point about Flash, Kris also mentioned that he has the ear of > someone at Adobe who was hinting that a capable developer willing to > sign an NDA could be given code to work on a native Flash plug-in port. > This could bode well for PC-BSD and FreeBSD should someone step up to > do this work." > It would seem ideal to have a freebsd person with access to adobe code =20 and should facilitate future flash ports. I would join in with $100 (dollars I suppose) from my paypal account. =20 The only place I have dollars available. That would bring it up to =20 $300 and should help future development. my .02 worth, ed PS IIRC, someone sent a link to a howto to get flash9 working on =20 current i386 at most a couple of weeks ago on one of the lists. I =20 can't find the link. If someone has it I would appreciate your =20 sending it to test it out. > >> From the site: >> ---snip--- >> I will pay $200 to whoever can compose a working and stable recipe for >> running Adobe Flash 9 inside of the FreeBSD native version of Opera 9 >> on FreeBSD 6.x. This shouldn't be that hard - in fact, there is >> already a linux-flashplugin9 port. >> ---snip--- >> >> Comments from other people with some more money not included here... >> >> And now the sad reality check: linux-flashplugin9 will _never_ work on >> 6.x (lack of linux 2.6 emulation, and this is not a MFC candidate). >> >> Getting it to work on 7.x is possible. "All what you need" is >> nspluginwrapper to get it running in the native >> firefox/opera/whatever, and someone who is willing to debug the >> linuxulator (on -current, as there is a more complete 2.6 >> compatibility there, and this can be MFCed to 7.x) and find the >> bug/problem which is causing the crashes. Whoever is willing to tackle >> this: head over to emulation@ (CCed) and ask what debugging >> possibilities we have in the linuxulator. >> >> Note: AFAIK linux-flashplugin9 is not completely stable on linux either..= . >> >> Bye, >> Alexander. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" > From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 20:29:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C6D81065684 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:29:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206998FC17 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:29:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m5KK9ogK067448; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:09:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m5KK9osQ067447; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:09:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:09:50 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: eculp Message-ID: <20080620200950.GA67295@cons.org> References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <1213972236.1505.14.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20080620104459.1393510x2w93m6ck@intranet.encontacto.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080620104459.1393510x2w93m6ck@intranet.encontacto.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 20:29:28 -0000 Is it crashing right at startup? What happens if you create a minimal (aka empty) Flash thingy on a website? Does it go through the startup, is there any Flash element that doesn't crash on FreeBSD? How long is the syscall trace in that minimal case? Small enough to diff out (after awk) against a Linux strace? Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/ From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 21:13:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C271065679; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B858FC2B; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (Postfix, from userid 10) id 8B61D2E2F1D; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (nox@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5KLCHtb076182; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:12:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.14.2/8.13.6/Submit) id m5KLCGEx076181; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:12:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nox) From: Juergen Lock Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:12:16 +0200 To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080620211216.GA75382@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Subject: please test experimental qemu-devel-20080620 snapshot and kqemu-1.4.0pre1 update! X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:13:27 -0000 Hi! I've been playing with a qemu-devel update again recently (which also includes a kqemu api change, therefore I have a new kqemu-kmod-devel port too), and these are the main news: - Many targets including x86 have been converted from dyngen to tcg completely, which should allow building them with newer gcc versions; I've added an ALL_TARGETS knob that can be turned off if you only need these targets, that avoids building the gcc34 port if you're on 7.0 or later. Here is the list out of the CONFIGURE_ARGS: i386-softmmu,sparc-softmmu,x86_64-softmmu,mips-softmmu,mipsel-softmmu,mips64-softmmu,mips64el-softmmu,arm-softmmu,m68k-softmmu (I only tested i386 and x86_64 a little bit. This knob also needs testing on 7.0 and later i386 hosts.) - kqemu now also works for i386-softmmu on amd64 hosts, i.e. you no longer need to use qemu-system-x86_64 there if you want kqemu. - And of course the usual round of bugfixes and optimizations, etc. The tcg conversions can cause regressions tho, and indeed I found that 7.0-RELEASE-amd64-livefs.iso causes qemu-system-x86_64 to crash on i386 hosts, it'd be interesting if you can find more. (I'll post a seperate message with details about that crash on the qemu list, and probably won't commit this version because of that.) I didn't inline the update and kqemu port this time since its two files, just fetch them from: http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/qemu/kqemu-kmod-devel.shar and http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/qemu/qemu-devel-20080620.patch Enjoy, Juergen From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 13:49:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579DB1065671 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from vlakno.cz (vlk.vlakno.cz [62.168.28.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108888FC1D for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rdivacky@vlk.vlakno.cz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE97A678438; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:49:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vlakno.cz Received: from vlakno.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vlk.vlakno.cz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rt7Nb5-s4qOR; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from vlk.vlakno.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vlakno.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD1166724F0; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from rdivacky@localhost) by vlk.vlakno.cz (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m5LDn1sK024074; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:49:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rdivacky) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:49:00 +0200 From: Roman Divacky To: Martin Cracauer Message-ID: <20080621134900.GA23957@freebsd.org> References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <1213972236.1505.14.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20080620104459.1393510x2w93m6ck@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080620200950.GA67295@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080620200950.GA67295@cons.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:49:59 -0000 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:09:50PM -0400, Martin Cracauer wrote: > Is it crashing right at startup? What happens if you create a minimal > (aka empty) Flash thingy on a website? Does it go through the startup, > is there any Flash element that doesn't crash on FreeBSD? > > How long is the syscall trace in that minimal case? Small enough to > diff out (after awk) against a Linux strace? iirc it crashes quite early when attempting to play a video on youtube. back then when I tried to debug this my ktrace output was ~2 milion lines if I am not mistaken. I am not sure if you can find what the problem is by comparing syscall traces... the problem is probably with implementation of some syscall or something like that so checking arguments to syscalls wont help. I hope you will prove me wrong :) From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 16:03:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C771065672 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7DA8FC0A for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id m5LG3Dut009407; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:03:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from cracauer@koef.zs64.net) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by koef.zs64.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id m5LG3D6H009406; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:03:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cracauer) Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:03:13 -0400 From: Martin Cracauer To: Roman Divacky Message-ID: <20080621160313.GA9351@cons.org> References: <20080619135114.Y1807@kozubik.com> <20080620083906.71332251xw1ckmu8@webmail.leidinger.net> <1213972236.1505.14.camel@scotth.emsphone.com> <20080620104459.1393510x2w93m6ck@intranet.encontacto.net> <20080620200950.GA67295@cons.org> <20080621134900.GA23957@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080621134900.GA23957@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Martin Cracauer , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Lack of Flash support is no longer acceptable. Bounty established... X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:03:31 -0000 Roman Divacky wrote on Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 03:49:00PM +0200: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 04:09:50PM -0400, Martin Cracauer wrote: > > Is it crashing right at startup? What happens if you create a minimal > > (aka empty) Flash thingy on a website? Does it go through the startup, > > is there any Flash element that doesn't crash on FreeBSD? > > > > How long is the syscall trace in that minimal case? Small enough to > > diff out (after awk) against a Linux strace? > > iirc it crashes quite early when attempting to play a video on youtube. > back then when I tried to debug this my ktrace output was ~2 milion lines > if I am not mistaken. So does Flash 9 work for anything at all, a minimal applet? > I am not sure if you can find what the problem is by comparing syscall > traces... the problem is probably with implementation of some syscall > or something like that so checking arguments to syscalls wont help. I hope > you will prove me wrong :) Almost all syscall side effects are in data returned. There are also subtle differences in what mmap behavior is allowed with what mmap arguments and Flash might choose to ignore an error code returned from an mmap call. A -1 on FreeBSD where Linux had an address might be the clue. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer/ FreeBSD - where you want to go, today. http://www.freebsd.org/