From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 5 04:14:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2AD106567A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:14:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2318FC13 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2008 04:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so3168475fgb.35 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:14:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=blrEaH/K3SzmocQqbtkzjsXcUXy5XfPF+JNVv1jTe6E=; b=Mk6XjVuRKHLu7BsgGT6PuxNiYAYxxq/K9ztC1J7uacVOPglb8YJzaZHuZNDBLDsao8 MTK1tn9cVXXJV3QfgfThI+0w3G0u1F2ovbnoFJqbVOXCKX/l7EEUjDnAUeve+gVRs5Yg MOHEpYl3EKdDKT3QeCiCWKA7vkMYyj+94l0kY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=dq3FALmOxOATCuH1d+5Q8RW3iIOKNYU4brwdAXmhhNrOJbyk8SClFsUHvyoIggvfuG yZZXUV8aLdTGE/mjH63qWyksQzKeyNXS9+RQU2Gw/f+w63FLADbESV48P2fK+UmikR++ MPLKT5fm08XlrAOzxKvXsrXhQTviLjxLWrg2s= Received: by 10.86.49.13 with SMTP id w13mr2617035fgw.76.1217909646414; Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.100.10 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <59adc1a0808042114g64706c21q4f08cb7687da5c6c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 07:14:06 +0300 From: "Dimitar Vasilev" To: hubs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: bg.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:14:09 -0000 Hi all, bg.freebsd.org is fully operational again: ftp/rsync/cvsup/www/dns et al. I'm just waiting for snapshots, tools and updates to be synced. Thanks to all who helped with time and tips. Best regards, Dimitar Vassilev From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 10:56:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CAD1065670 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6114F8FC2E for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KR2kw-0003Zt-0R for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:30:06 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m77AVT8k011003 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:31:29 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m77AVLro010935 for hubs@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:31:22 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:31:21 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: hubs@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080807103121.GA8415@regency.nsu.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Subject: ports/distfiles on FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:56:04 -0000 Hi there, I've recent got interested in the fact that our ports/distfiles directory on FTP contains zillion of out-dated (WRT current ports versions they serve) tarballs and occupies more than 100GB of disk space. Is there are any special reason we keep all those distfiles? If not, what is the algorithm of putting a distfile there? Does it take care of deleting previous versions? Can it be improved? I'm eager to provide help/patches/etc. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 11:01:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A2F106567C for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF49A8FC28; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:01:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <489AD614.3010904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:01:40 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev References: <20080807103121.GA8415@regency.nsu.ru> In-Reply-To: <20080807103121.GA8415@regency.nsu.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/distfiles on FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:01:45 -0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > Hi there, > > I've recent got interested in the fact that our ports/distfiles > directory on FTP contains zillion of out-dated (WRT current ports > versions they serve) tarballs and occupies more than 100GB of disk space. > > Is there are any special reason we keep all those distfiles? If not, > what is the algorithm of putting a distfile there? Does it take care of > deleting previous versions? Can it be improved? I'm eager to provide > help/patches/etc. > > ./danfe We do not delete old distfiles because the space savings are marginal. There is value in retaining old distfiles, because they are often still needed even years later. Kris From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 13:40:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C23A106564A; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [66.92.79.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BBB8FC17; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 13:40:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: from hergotha.csail.mit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m77DBYVB089102; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:11:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by hergotha.csail.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m77DBY6N089099; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:11:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18586.62597.988090.707524@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:11:33 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman To: Kris Kennaway In-Reply-To: <489AD614.3010904@FreeBSD.org> References: <20080807103121.GA8415@regency.nsu.ru> <489AD614.3010904@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 21) "Educational Television" XEmacs Lucid X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (hergotha.csail.mit.edu [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:11:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on hergotha.csail.mit.edu Cc: Alexey Dokuchaev , hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/distfiles on FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:40:42 -0000 < said: > We do not delete old distfiles because the space savings are marginal. > There is value in retaining old distfiles, because they are often still > needed even years later. There is also the issue of GPL compliance for the packages (particularly the static package sets included with releases). -GAWollman From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 16:20:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32F21065670; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FEB8FC18; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:20:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KR8Db-0007xS-G2; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:20:03 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m77GLEIX071929; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:21:14 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m77GL7qd071865; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:21:07 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from danfe) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:21:07 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Garrett Wollman Message-ID: <20080807162106.GA58873@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20080807103121.GA8415@regency.nsu.ru> <489AD614.3010904@FreeBSD.org> <18586.62597.988090.707524@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <18586.62597.988090.707524@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: hubs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/distfiles on FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:20:04 -0000 On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:11:33AM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > We do not delete old distfiles because the space savings are marginal. > > There is value in retaining old distfiles, because they are often still > > needed even years later. > > There is also the issue of GPL compliance for the packages > (particularly the static package sets included with releases). Fair enough. However, find . -exec basename {} \; | sort | uniq -d finds plenty of duplicates, including some monsters like OOo_1.1.4_source.tar.gz, for instance. ./danfe From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 16:30:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2677D106566B for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CEF8FC08; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <489B2317.7050904@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:30:15 +0200 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexey Dokuchaev References: <20080807103121.GA8415@regency.nsu.ru> <489AD614.3010904@FreeBSD.org> <18586.62597.988090.707524@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20080807162106.GA58873@regency.nsu.ru> In-Reply-To: <20080807162106.GA58873@regency.nsu.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: hubs@freebsd.org, Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: ports/distfiles on FTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:30:20 -0000 Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:11:33AM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: >> < said: >> >>> We do not delete old distfiles because the space savings are marginal. >>> There is value in retaining old distfiles, because they are often still >>> needed even years later. >> There is also the issue of GPL compliance for the packages >> (particularly the static package sets included with releases). > > Fair enough. However, find . -exec basename {} \; | sort | uniq -d > finds plenty of duplicates, including some monsters like > OOo_1.1.4_source.tar.gz, for instance. They were all the "right" location for a version of the port at some point in history, and still are correct for any remaining users of that version. Kris