From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 00:57:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052721065675; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C358FC19; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from dereel.lemis.com (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4B1DE083; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:35 +1000 (EST) Received: by dereel.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D764522917; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: FreeBSD Questions , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5346-1370 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:57:46 -0000 --a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so please don't reply only to the list. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIWajjIubykFB6QiMRApBTAKCIkxTPWnRj7/sdXZl5fjRZIW/g2wCgl0/3 /EtLLVzUpEgRVKd5aByuPaA= =La3n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a1QUDc0q7S3U7/Jg-- From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 01:17:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21744106567A for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakenet1@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AB58FC27 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quakenet1@optusnet.com.au) Received: from [10.0.2.3] (c122-106-190-227.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.190.227]) by mail04.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5J1HqVY001736; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:17:53 +1000 Message-Id: From: Jerahmy Pocott To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" In-Reply-To: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:17:50 +1000 References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:17:57 -0000 On 19/06/2008, at 10:31 AM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you > want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so > please don't reply only to the list. I'm not sure why now, because I can't see it on their site, but I was sure smartyhost.com.au had freebsd based hosting.. Anyway they seem to offer fairly cheap virtual hosting with your choice of OS and are Australian based (on optus backbone). From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 01:21:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764EF106567C; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from foxx.skiltech.com (foxx.skiltech.com [209.41.180.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549238FC14; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:21:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ryan.coleman@cwis.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost.69599 [127.0.0.1]) by foxx.skiltech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB8B8FD0C; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:05:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at foxx.skiltech.com Received: from foxx.skiltech.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (foxx.skiltech.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9XaywoonRE17; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by foxx.skiltech.com (Postfix, from userid 80) id F1A8A8FD0B; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 71.63.150.244 (SquirrelMail authenticated user cwis0001) by www.pictureprints.net with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:05:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <1496.71.63.150.244.1213837517.squirrel@www.pictureprints.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:05:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Ryan Coleman" To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ryan.coleman@cwis.biz List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:21:23 -0000 Skiltech.com is my host, they do jailed for a good price -- depends on traffic and space requirements -- and do colocation. We're paying $400/mo for a machine we have full system access to, plus 24/7 tech for free and nightly backups for up to 7 days for access, DB for 30. They run fBSD 6.3 right now, I believe. Good company, small - owned by one person - and very, very reliable. -- Ryan > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you > want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so > please don't reply only to the list. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > -- Ryan Coleman Photo Editor, D3sports.com Owner, Pictureprints.net From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 01:34:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A7C1065677 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841268FC1B for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:34:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so450072wah.3 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:34:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=la/zdX6HRSiQ6lsv4viEcmP7orr+F1ZiZkvdPmoeGa0=; b=kdXnV+fbvBXRrVyg1LY1g/FgPso0H8ZExrQ+g5HxwO7JXrj9o95OI24BVdHtktcGf3 ZTxsvOIhxxunBPX4tlIWbclzp+w0ZtxHMnj8Ub2HRZsTE25lnXMb1AAFw3sCqjkQcMFb mOxFhC4cHPRTiXOtQyo96JkMNgKEY+N0+K0OU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mgXWFPyQbDGiBV7kJLUQjR1FgoEtdIjNFAgen91F3RS8d6fWoJRAHp8wUNrT5si58R wM8vf2XHXxTXAaBwGd6QbtgBJjq3PZi//ED7Zv4ylMUwStI6Jh9ah04ZJB4tgtIo2yCe VFrpn32B9ozD/j8Pk2wXJ0FuibuugEzDoglTI= Received: by 10.114.201.1 with SMTP id y1mr1747138waf.93.1213837582889; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.254.11 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8d23ec860806181806t340b7d25ve11e303f5dc0adf2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:06:22 -0400 From: Schiz0 To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" In-Reply-To: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:34:53 -0000 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you > want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so > please don't reply only to the list. > Try http://clearancerack.ca They have cheap dedicated servers. They support FreeBSD, and they are in Canada :D From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 01:43:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55C81065673; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2048FC0C; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E861A35744; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:27:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:27:26 +0200 From: cpghost To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Message-ID: <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> In-Reply-To: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Organization: Cordula's Web X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.4.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:43:16 -0000 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html I've recently switched to KIONIC.COM: http://www.kionic.com/ but only for simple web hosting (no jails). They may offer jails too... Service is excellent so far. ;) Regards, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 03:02:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E9F1065679 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8E48FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so304221ywe.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:02:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4cvaXNycniRLlOrMLyr3wMXdXgy2tgFRmAuhJAJiDbs=; b=yE3EA1wEEoZrgbT0YPy4Inb4fxF/zzvXcOBLdi/YME5klnwfVMc/MLtwb8Mjpm0lXq 5zoGh6aizOIBeMY9DIPX+utTVcBddZ8Jwv9xWnTB+MuxwAb0cIwPwalOayI00UvqX8ox H1lX9Av+Sr+iusBusf/ifN00KDJ6rGPlZCNQ0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CrZxKZHbP/spmlXral7Mt2dvOnXHPDa5sPL3wEuk1+pVNVCFNXjYT5xlAG3DBi8DIj TYDIAP2vUVgz7+kbPF+HSXFXpouoVQCDF4IeQNDFxBEcWsC1cyvvlUqzYKWr95siuuMv lhK/aTxZ75yViEmm8vwKTlwjXl7yHFVQrah1Y= Received: by 10.151.112.21 with SMTP id p21mr2242074ybm.97.1213843033609; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.149.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:37:13 -0400 From: "Maxim Khitrov" To: cpghost In-Reply-To: <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:02:32 -0000 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM, cpghost wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000 > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd >> like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty >> of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is >> in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody >> point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters: > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html > Is anyone here using RootBSD? I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on their site about where the data center is or the exact system specifications. - Max From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 04:02:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379BA1065BE1 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from bulwark.hamla.org (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5928FC22 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:02:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (bulwark [69.55.228.210]) by bulwark.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDCD1CD4B; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:45:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV at bulwark.hamla.org Received: from bulwark.hamla.org ([69.55.228.210]) by localhost (bulwark.hamla.org [69.55.228.210]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DXUu2aTQLS2X; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:45:25 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: Maxim Khitrov Message-ID: <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , cpghost Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "sahil@tandon.net" List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:02:54 -0000 Maxim Khitrov wrote: > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied customer for over three years. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 04:22:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5751065800 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228208FC14 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:22:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pcloches@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7136329rvf.43 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:22:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=J6drXBoDznD2/RNgHpuLfBVyrYvda4dWzbW+ph4Sx90=; b=QfukwEdZOyRxlMFx9UXaCtuhrjCG9reOJ+w9/7QqT9h6T6wtvTu1j+CQKzQb9Bq4fA zNTlhkc+uLDU3F+IHx1LOuyTPt7vQmJFBeWsFIqiyFvVTriwBVwtzr68Sal4RHifQ2Aq tiNrtdpXyaw/KZsAyPjNlkhqtIv6xsRnbxduM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=OL6+nOZrlcQWOw1mNeP5psyzPBfN94d5l27GVnwSkLmez+Kny2dRmd8/ZytZwi6YDG Ab6/h9mLW/Jcsthq2qlKADVkFPv3XZDPTzCPB0/Zjmevyz90fLyKm+TQASHY6oPyvsbf gm+T2h+cBP/y5GSp5WHGuX9Brpc73UF8NOpTk= Received: by 10.114.144.1 with SMTP id r1mr1838613wad.140.1213847867347; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.8 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34394a3a0806182057w9d28e35i485bbc495526fc1a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 22:57:47 -0500 From: "Patrick C" To: "sahil@tandon.net" In-Reply-To: <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Maxim Khitrov , FreeBSD Questions , cpghost , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:22:18 -0000 I can, as usual, highly recommend M5 Hosting. Mike (the owner) is VERY helpful and he is very knowledgeable in *BSD - a lot of hosts will install it, but few know how to use it. His hardware is good and he uses AMCC (3Ware) cards for RAID. The network rocks. I can also say I have had decent luck with ThePlanet, but I get better bandwidth with M5 and I know if I have to call someone, he knows his stuff. -Patrick 2008/6/18 Sahil Tandon : > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > >> I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive >> experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it >> was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied > customer for over three years. > > -- > Sahil Tandon > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 04:23:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96F3A1065AA7 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491558FC28 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7136554rvf.43 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:23:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zCQSRsUE9X7eaNXXERBUFUoiSUft6B/jVXX0nVPJMS8=; b=Kyy7N6bI2cmfoBPTYtoNIbONwLysnj3pohnfX6lpUdur120kuBDfbpPGFWQ/sjXcJo TmBsownE/BBL6PNsu+H6jB7J/7tmZ/cnqVttH/atM1AAlHvhzOYxKmbor3X4B2nlPtkE 5aU4dPK8melpMcjcOrtr1BDEctPmEQIEbhjBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=xMldqv8E7DZPLHan4hrZ8kLbvMDJ4s4AmO8Ot9yuYCBYQITdyWP6nm15FvXAVGsPcn 0T+P0n6fLTqsF/AS2V17XKXrKaBBHD3n0a9otEOK/9EwfIjC7QCGnlgEshIbDjv3y9pT e4P0hjTjzSLlJVFFmT58mB4jdLXu1GnjicB6k= Received: by 10.140.147.5 with SMTP id u5mr6076860rvd.166.1213847711152; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.9? ( [124.157.244.227]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f21sm292946rvb.0.2008.06.18.20.55.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: OutBackDingo To: Maxim Khitrov In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:55:00 +0700 Message-Id: <1213847700.16273.7.camel@dingo-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , cpghost Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:23:30 -0000 I was going to go with them for their XEN based hosting, but i sent them an email, asking a couple questions, they never replied, so went with Verio instead > Is anyone here using RootBSD? > > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the > same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The > question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on > their site about where the data center is or the exact system > specifications. > > - Max From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 06:30:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F741065672 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 923078FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so643488fkk.11 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.191.9 with SMTP id o9mr817847huf.17.1213855479450; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.145.2 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:04:39 -0500 From: "Bob Martin" To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" In-Reply-To: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:30:46 -0000 M5 hosting, http://www.m5hosting.com. Those folks are great. You can find more at http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/ On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you > want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so > please don't reply only to the list. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 06:54:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC141065674; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@enta.net) Received: from smtp2.enta.net (smtp2.enta.net [62.249.192.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0A18FC19; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:54:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@enta.net) Received: from steve-macpro.1024.co.uk (unknown [195.74.102.10]) by smtp2.enta.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2803C14DDC3; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:37:22 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: From: Steve Lalonde To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey In-Reply-To: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:36:19 +0100 References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.924) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:54:01 -0000 On 19 Jun 2008, at 01:31, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you > want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so > please don't reply only to the list. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. Hi We Entanet host on FreeBSD as the default and its been that way since we started back in 1996 We are in the UK -- Steve Lalonde RTFM Chief Technical Officer Entanet International Ltd http://www.enta.net/ From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 07:47:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB6B1065672; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ct.lists@qgsltd.co.uk) Received: from mailrelay1.qgsltd.co.uk (mailrelay1.qgsltd.co.uk [195.97.223.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63868FC1F; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ct.lists@qgsltd.co.uk) Received: from qgsltd.co.uk ([192.168.30.12]) by mailrelay1.qgsltd.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5J7Sf20014524; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:28:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ct.lists@qgsltd.co.uk) X-CGP-ClamAV-Result: CLEAN X-VirusScanner: Niversoft's CGPClamav Helper v1.7 (ClamAV engine v0.91) Received: from [192.168.0.139] (account charlest HELO [192.168.0.139]) by qgsltd.co.uk (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.14) with ESMTPSA id 3279931; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:30:31 +0100 Message-ID: <485A0AAF.3060209@qgsltd.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:28:47 +0100 From: Charles Trevor User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> In-Reply-To: <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.1/7505/Thu Jun 19 07:25:19 2008 on mailrelay1.qgsltd.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 07:47:46 -0000 > > +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied > customer for over three years. > +2 for JohnCompanies. Excellent support and good prices for VPS. I intend to have several more VPS with them over the next few months. HTH Charlie From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 16:56:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426821065677; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (merlin.alerce.com [64.62.142.94]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196B68FC1B; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hartzell@alerce.com) Received: from merlin.alerce.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8787A33C62; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from postfix.alerce.com (w092.z064001164.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.164.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by merlin.alerce.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1333C5B; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by postfix.alerce.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id B896045451E; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:35 -0700 (PDT) From: George Hartzell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:29:35 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions In-Reply-To: <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under Emacs 22.1.50.1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: Subject: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: hartzell@alerce.com List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:56:30 -0000 Sahil Tandon writes: > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > > > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied > customer for over three years. Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've never been able to scratch. I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology underlies the VPS offerings. I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7 w/ a kernel config file named VKERN. There's some concept of a virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of "it's all my machine" and "it's a shared server". Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x days? Is it still alive and kicking somewhere? Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built? Thanks, g. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 17:20:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3EC1065676 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5896C8FC17 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:20:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so388795tid.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HHsWYQ1+EAdwJkDuxe+ByepwQ3Lc9IFd1Qu+eBhkRhg=; b=bOEjbhh/eqYfl1DOiqIWZlxqZ3EQEtz4qaCQhM40ATaE2/MIA0zciQ8Ad3RyCxM68W KrhWcURCuaYNL1aBcr1NrPH9+oI48fUbUD/GErqtNXPS7urFWyF5p5bJkDL4gXXJS/HR bIKq0A+woHwRqHOx76DKuAA/m2BCzHHF93omA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=sDf5t0WaehLInCLBw+Ohnxhr7+9vUtboufYBYfvC1KzB6IumFBX6H0xAt0D3SSj78s nO+1tw/HLzr4Gd0cDqNNNxjycvGEKf9e5ZkhtJ69JKKXe0QetEi6BSUbQz3pwAgHBQFg IGpmhDyVmO1nrIbXMl/t42mZqbDerVeMd/9WM= Received: by 10.110.40.8 with SMTP id n8mr1777188tin.7.1213896009061; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.9? ( [124.157.244.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a14sm1202392tia.0.2008.06.19.10.20.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:20:08 -0700 (PDT) From: OutBackDingo To: hartzell@alerce.com In-Reply-To: <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:20:03 +0700 Message-Id: <1213896003.20035.19.camel@dingo-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:20:11 -0000 the libvirt stuff might be a clue, a while back I designed a virtual system using libvirt and some ported linux code, which basiclaly acted as an enhanced chroot for apache, ftp, mail, pop3, imap. also NTT has a derivitive version of FreeBSD with hints at virtualization, im waiting for our Verio to be setup now, so once it is ill peruse it a bit On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 09:29 -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > Sahil Tandon writes: > > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > > > > > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > > > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > > > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > > > +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied > > customer for over three years. > > Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've > never been able to scratch. > > I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the > complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology > underlies the VPS offerings. > > I help out a friend on a Verio VPS that reports itself as FreeBSD 4.7 > w/ a kernel config file named VKERN. There's some concept of a > virtual root, a command named 'virtual' works a bit like sudo does for > credentials, and there's otherwise an odd mix of "it's all my machine" > and "it's a shared server". > > Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x > days? Is it still alive and kicking somewhere? > > Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built? > > Thanks, > > g. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 17:53:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB892106566B; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@zaph.org) Received: from zaph.org (zaph.org [208.86.224.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A248FC21; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:53:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from thomas@zaph.org) Received: by zaph.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 96B4746803; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:35:50 -0400 From: thomas@zaph.org To: Maxim Khitrov , cpghost , Greg 'groggy' Lehey , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20080619173550.GA2694@zaph.org> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:53:29 -0000 * Maxim Khitrov [2008-06-18 22:37:13+0000]: > Is anyone here using RootBSD? I am using both RootBSD and JohnCompanies. > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. Agreed. JC has been fine so far, and I asked them to include me in their FreeBSD 7 beta testing when it opens up. I don't think they have a schedule posted for when that will start. I started out at RootBSD on 6.2, and when FreeBSD 7 was first offered by them (about a month ago), they were nice enough to setup a 7.0 VPS for me, and give me a liberal amount of time for me to move my data over from my 6.2 VPS. > My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan. Contrast that with RootBSD, where I pay $19 a month and I get 10GB of space. On the JC server, one can easily fill up that 2GB by building various ports (I did it by running "cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick; make install"). The RootBSD box comes with 10GB of space which is more than enough to build almost any port. I am sticking with both for now, only because JC reliability/uptime is purported to be excellent. Granted, I've not had any hardware or connectivity issues with either provider yet, so I've not yet experienced any serious problems firsthand. I should also add that they both have excellent customer service and response times, I've been pleasantly surprised with how good the support from both places are. hth, Thomas From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 18:12:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFFC1065673 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEF58FC16 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:12:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so161647yxl.13 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=G74NlJzFgsn2uzORiP8E6pr73G0KurcztOG8GA+YHOs=; b=o+ugAVY53e17O3ILq20QtVdDhCj70aFT/Jekz+SE0h2Miw6UvBbbJ4v8bX4ZqtRfLJ m1Y1nnVx8zpEpC40eBMK3A9aeelSomTTTzxJ9XKKsa94L3idFLZ49pJZ5OHTYx3CW7Rr jCKz/CBJZY8kNo4J/AC3ZXMHgz2INdvQx33Lw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IyJcAJyzHlOfPkueNVOpPb+EhrgEoie3+++LOVKq1Z7+1ds8YQ9Hww0ikQzeFps81V a56tf9CGAOtT/VhqRQPYn+EEMgz6WRU6tzATZBlcDFTgiPj64Dvr1p3BKVlN3Phos+Ju ZVdmO4KxVWReas+Aw12e1/pdDhq91dY6Xw4Io= Received: by 10.150.123.16 with SMTP id v16mr3550176ybc.40.1213899168436; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.149.9 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <26ddd1750806191112t78939fh1fe3d32a1d11a985@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:12:48 -0400 From: "Maxim Khitrov" To: hartzell@alerce.com In-Reply-To: <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:12:49 -0000 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:29 PM, George Hartzell wrote: > Sahil Tandon writes: > > Maxim Khitrov wrote: > > > > > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > > > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > > > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > > > +1 for JC. The tech support and availability is unparalleled. Satisfied > > customer for over three years. > > Seeing JC advertise a FreeBSD VPS product reminded me of an itch I've > never been able to scratch. > > I know about jails at the simple end, and I know about VMware at the > complicated end, but I've never been able to figure out what technology > underlies the VPS offerings. > I'm not sure about FreeBSD 4.x, but with the more recent versions, the solutions I've seen were using jails, Xen, or VMWare. I tried running FreeBSD using Parallels a while back and didn't get very far. JC is using Jails. An easy way to tell is if you run 'ifconfig' and don't see the loopback address (127.0.0.1). This is a restriction of the jails system. Another hint is if you run 'mount' and see that the device mounted as / doesn't exist in /dev. The main disadvantage of jails is that you cannot mess with the kernel, but otherwise I think it's actually a better solution, in my opinion. Less resources are wasted with jails than with a full VM. A Xen or VMWare server will behave exactly the same as a physical machine. - Max From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 18:13:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C50891065675 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD1B8FC19 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:13:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so397596tid.3 for ; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:13:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P0AdndqL/JnxBHdnRS/8JO3Gp3rJQh+rZDDhmsdZXl8=; b=nH9jomegCNYvP5gP4Jo6wYq9BDaVVAo/nmb5/MDClj/4e7w4sfvJ2DQm3gSPy9VDD9 Ug3uJn9Sv6CDsyRv0jYzW6tvR14wScXypFpT/iJYbLdGrj7MkCB2nz5JDwoOOzcT9qaO z+TBXiYB5zC4rU8DIRV7+nlzivAosLB0+lSfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=AIcUlqLsBfVEllEw/VqY0Lp6bGz8PGvBefBdSDyZeMmGM/12fSm14Tud7QTpfVrj5r vU5DegvTUsvVcsBhrVMtWyMPtlGYyrPkadg6icBVyeRRJt6OOQOwJd7JWgUfy1mvMEgV pmerU64wOx+vgzXJcCIhDUoDV4OgyWaw3OkLg= Received: by 10.110.84.2 with SMTP id h2mr1800036tib.45.1213899229162; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:13:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.9? ( [124.157.244.133]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u12sm1301938tia.5.2008.06.19.11.13.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:13:48 -0700 (PDT) From: OutBackDingo To: thomas@zaph.org In-Reply-To: <20080619173550.GA2694@zaph.org> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619173550.GA2694@zaph.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:13:42 +0700 Message-Id: <1213899222.20035.25.camel@dingo-laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Maxim Khitrov , FreeBSD Questions , cpghost , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:13:50 -0000 It might be nice if the RootBSD people answered their email inquiries, i know they have lost customers, me for one for not answering a simple email On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 13:35 -0400, thomas@zaph.org wrote: > * Maxim Khitrov [2008-06-18 22:37:13+0000]: > > Is anyone here using RootBSD? > > I am using both RootBSD and JohnCompanies. > > > I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive > > experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for it > > was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. > > Agreed. JC has been fine so far, and I asked them to include me in their > FreeBSD 7 beta testing when it opens up. I don't think they have a > schedule posted for when that will start. > > I started out at RootBSD on 6.2, and when FreeBSD 7 was first offered by > them (about a month ago), they were nice enough to setup a 7.0 VPS for > me, and give me a liberal amount of time for me to move my data over > from my 6.2 VPS. > > > My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. > > This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only > get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more > diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan. > > Contrast that with RootBSD, where I pay $19 a month and I get 10GB of > space. > > On the JC server, one can easily fill up that 2GB by building various > ports (I did it by running "cd /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick; make > install"). The RootBSD box comes with 10GB of space which is more than > enough to build almost any port. > > I am sticking with both for now, only because JC reliability/uptime is > purported to be excellent. Granted, I've not had any hardware or > connectivity issues with either provider yet, so I've not yet > experienced any serious problems firsthand. > > > > I should also add that they both have excellent customer service and > response times, I've been pleasantly surprised with how good the support > from both places are. > > hth, > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 21:32:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58180106564A; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp8.server.rpi.edu (smtp8.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7E38FC1C; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp8.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5JLW8tB010203; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:32:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1213847700.16273.7.camel@dingo-laptop> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <1213847700.16273.7.camel@dingo-laptop> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:32:08 -0400 To: OutBackDingo , Maxim Khitrov From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.228 Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:32:11 -0000 Seeing the question: > > Is anyone here using RootBSD? At 10:55 AM +0700 6/19/08, OutBackDingo wrote: >I was going to go with them for their XEN based hosting, but i sent >them an email, asking a couple questions, they never replied, so >went with Verio instead I notice the rootbsd guys did a major web-site upgrade at the end of May. They also have a recent news-item saying: Friday, June 13th, 2008 - Unfortunately we had a programming problem on part of our website. Messages sent through the 'contact' form have not been received. This is now fixed. - If you have sent us a message and not received a response, please contact us again. We apologize for the inconvenience and promise we weren't just trying to ignore you. Obviously this is too late to help OutBackDingo, but if someone else is waiting for email from them, you might want to try to contact them again. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 19 21:59:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536781065681; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:59:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from smtp5.server.rpi.edu (smtp5.server.rpi.edu [128.113.2.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBF78FC30; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by smtp5.server.rpi.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m5JKkD5r012785; Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:46:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:46:13 -0400 To: "Maxim Khitrov" From: Garance A Drosihn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-RPI-SA-Score: undef - spam scanning disabled X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 128.113.2.225 Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:59:32 -0000 At 10:37 PM -0400 6/18/08, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:27 PM, cpghost wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000 >> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> >>> I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd >>> like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty >>> of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is >>> in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody >>> point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? >> >> Here's a list of FreeBSD-based hosters: >> http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html >> > >Is anyone here using RootBSD? I recently signed up for a Xen VPS setup at RootBSD. It seems to be working fine, at least for what I want out of it. I'm using it as a "hot-spare, off-site backup" for a service that I run, so what I'm doing is probably much less demanding than what most people would want from it. But so far I've been able to set things up the way I want, and it's worked fine. My biggest problem so far is that I haven't had enough spare time to work on it! I have no idea if they would take customers from outside the US, but they have been pretty responsive to questions I have sent to them via email. I see they've updated their site since I signed up: http://www.rootbsd.net/ >I'm currently with JohnCompanies. Overall, it's been a positive >experience, though I wish they offered FreeBSD 7. Beta testing for >it was supposed to begin last month, but so far no news. My Xen VPS is setup with FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE. When I signed up, they were just starting to try Xen-based setups instead of jails. It looks like they've officially rolled that out as a service to everyone. >My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. For the >same price at RootBSD you could get almost eight times as much. The >question is how reliable are they? I can't find any information on >their site about where the data center is or the exact system >specifications. Machines are located in two different datacenters in Raleigh, NC (or at least, that's what they told me!). In my case, I just wanted a machine located far enough away from Troy, NY that any problem which took out my office machine would not take out my "off-site" machine. North Carolina sounded far enough away to me! At the moment, my machine has been up for 35 days, and at that time the reason it went down was because I rebooted it after making some changes. I've had the system for maybe two months, and haven't had any problems with it. Remember though, I haven't been pushing it all that much. Basically do automatic backups to it at night, and then may ssh into it to test a few things a week. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 08:04:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C26A106566B; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A9D8FC23; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:03:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m5K83jfO044425; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:03:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id m5K83gPJ044422; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:03:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:03:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: thomas@zaph.org In-Reply-To: <20080619173550.GA2694@zaph.org> Message-ID: <20080620095834.Y44351@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619032726.0603654b@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <26ddd1750806181937y232d5b1dg5f84a66e81697b68@mail.gmail.com> <20080619173550.GA2694@zaph.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Greg 'groggy' Lehey , Maxim Khitrov , FreeBSD Questions , cpghost , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JohnCompanies and RootBSD (was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:04:00 -0000 >> My main concern is disk space; I have 2GB for ~$26 per month. > > This too is my only gripe about JohnCompanies. For $29 a month, I only > get a VPS with 2GB of space -- and they don't allow you to add more > diskpace unless you upgrade to a higher ($49/month) plan. while i live in Poland, where (in theory) internet services are more expensive than US and many west countries (we are told so at least), it looks like very expensive. 29$/month=348$/year for what i understand - Xen based servers with a bit of RAM allocated and 2GB disk space. it's just funny in context of todays cheap 500-1000GB disks. While i don't do this widely (too little money, too much work to advertise etc.) i have 20 clients on my servers just having their FreeBSD jail for 100$/month. There is 20GB "soft" limit - where soft means that you generally can keep more, but if i will have space problems i will ask to free some space. The important question is traffic generated, not disk space, as this is what's expensive. I just can't understand the basis of their offers. From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 20 14:17:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EAB106567A; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: from smtp.teledomenet.gr (smtp.teledomenet.gr [213.142.128.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C5FB8FC1B; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nvass@teledomenet.gr) Received: by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix, from userid 58) id 58C901421B3; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:00:52 +0300 (EEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on smtp.teledomenet.gr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 Received: from iris.teledomenet.local (unknown [192.168.1.71]) by smtp.teledomenet.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B838C14217A; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:00:48 +0300 (EEST) From: Nikos Vassiliadis To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, hartzell@alerce.com Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:58:00 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> <20080619034525.GA8205@shepherd> <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> In-Reply-To: <18522.35183.684254.289777@almost.alerce.com> X-NCC-RegID: gr.telehouse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200806201658.01395.nvass@teledomenet.gr> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: How do they do their VPS product? [was Re: FreeBSD based web hosting?] X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:17:48 -0000 On Thursday 19 June 2008 19:29:35 George Hartzell wrote: > Is/was there some proprietary virtualization technology in the 4.x > days? Not a proprietary one: http://www.tel.fer.hr/zec/BSD/vimage-old/ & http://imunes.tel.fer.hr/virtnet/eurobsdcon07_tutorial.pdf The presentation pdf states: Anecdotal evidence: FreeBSD 4.11 based version in production use by some US ISPs > Is it still alive and kicking somewhere? Hopefully, it will be integrated to HEAD during summer. You can follow the discussions here: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization > Anyone have any insights into how these VPS products were built? Maybe it was that, maybe not... From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 21 10:45:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E423D1065763; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592368FC1D; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:45:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A5392.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.83.146]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5LAAPFM069031; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:10:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5LAAE0E059111; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:10:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5LAAMDA000642; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:10:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200806211010.m5LAAMDA000642@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:31 +1000." <20080619003131.GF51002@dereel.lemis.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:10:22 +0200 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , np@bsn.de, edz@bsn.de Subject: Re: FreeBSD based web hosting? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 10:45:54 -0000 > I'm looking for somebody to host some web sites for me. Ideally I'd > like a complete machine, but a jail would do too. I can find plenty > of Linux-based offerings, but the only one I can find with FreeBSD is > in Germany and requires me to be resident in Germany. Can anybody > point me to one that I, as an Australian resident, can use? > > Feel free to reply to me personally and blow your own trumpet if you > want. Please also note that I'm not subscribed to these lists, so > please don't reply only to the list. > > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. Hi Greg cc lists, Friends run a very flexible BSD based provider company in Munich. http://bsn.de & bsn.com I have servers there. It wouldn't matter to them you weren't in Germany. They speak English & German. Could offer FreeBSD on i686 or so, or sparc-something (maybe OpenBSD for sparc, not sure). They'd likely prefer to offer complete box rental, not a jail. Greg, call Norbert Poellmann cc'd +49 89 692 8120 to discuss possibilities. Norbert, Greg is author of a FreeBSD book, & visited Gary & I etc here once. Index of providers here (& BSN on list) http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML & Base64 text are spam.