From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 11:06:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F0110656B6 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A2A8FC18 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mBMB6sRD060627 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:06:54 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mBMB6s0d060623 for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:06:54 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:06:54 GMT Message-Id: <200812221106.mBMB6s0d060623@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Current problem reports assigned to freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:06:54 -0000 Note: to view an individual PR, use: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=(number). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o java/128948 java java/jdk16 built from source can't bind a socket, but o java/128809 java JVM aborted when GNU RXTX write to serial port. o java/125583 java Java gui programs stop without error message o java/123555 java linux-sun-jdk15, linux-sun-jdk16 produce a coredump o java/122513 java native JDKs unbuildable with Linux ones o java/121692 java java/jdk16: Java 1.5 1.5.0.14p8 crashes in RMI TCP Con o ports/121420 java java/jdk16: Java applet fails to find class under fire o ports/121416 java java/jdk15 can't build if BIN environment variable is o ports/120372 java java/linux-sun-jdk16: linux-sun-jre1.6.0 plugin doesn' o java/120146 java java/jdk15: netbeans 6.0 causes java core dump on amd6 o ports/119732 java java/linux-sun-jre16: linux-sun-jre16 plugin doesn't w o java/119063 java An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime o java/118956 java eclipse and netbeans break on diablo-jdk15 o java/118496 java Eclipse packages do not work with 6.3-RC1/amd64 o ports/116841 java cannot build java/jdk16 by using java/linux-sun-jdk16 o java/116667 java linux-sun-javac1.4 hangs on SMP o ports/116082 java java/linux-sun-jdk16 jconsole is unable to connect to o java/115773 java [request] java.nio channel selectors should use kqueue o java/114644 java tomcat goes out of PermSpace, jvm crashes o ports/113751 java java/linux-sun-jdk15: linux-sun-jdk-1.5.0.12,2 - java o ports/113467 java Multiple "missing return value" errors building JDK on o java/112595 java Java appletviewer frequently hangs (kse_release loop) o java/110912 java Java krb5 client leaks UDP connections o java/105482 java diablo-jdk1.5.0/jdk-1.5.0 java.nio.Selector bug o java/97461 java Diablo JDK does not report Update level in a format su o ports/84742 java make ports/java/jdk14 use dynamic Motif librarires s java/62837 java linux-sun-jdk14 executables hang with COMPAT_LINUX in s ports/60083 java java/jdk14 - Unsafe use of getaddrinfo in jvm 1.4.2-p5 s ports/56928 java jce-aba port should install to $JAVA_HOME/jre/lib/ext 29 problems total. From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 22 21:25:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E051F106567A for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-java@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B068FC1B for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-java@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LEsGs-00037B-KY for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:02 +0000 Received: from 93-138-92-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.138.92.40]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:02 +0000 Received: from ivoras by 93-138-92-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:12:16 +0100 Lines: 29 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig326FE91B1238925218668E0E" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 93-138-92-40.adsl.net.t-com.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Sender: news Subject: Java licencing X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:25:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig326FE91B1238925218668E0E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, If I understand Sun's JRE license correctly, if I have an application in Java I can't distribute the JRE binaries as a part of a VMWare image or a LiveCD without a "trademark license agreement" with Sun. Would it be possible with OpenJDK? --------------enig326FE91B1238925218668E0E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklQArAACgkQldnAQVacBcgwtwCfSSwGG3Q2IqfxLXTggeIdEhp1 ILgAn1312PV5r3rZLdzcTMbhhmhgk2kN =llC2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig326FE91B1238925218668E0E-- From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 23 07:50:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5B21065676 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565368FC13 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:50:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mBN7oZdu010282; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:50:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mBN7oYYS010281; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:50:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:50:34 -0800 From: Greg Lewis To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20081223075034.GA10260@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Java licencing X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:50:33 -0000 On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:12:16PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: > If I understand Sun's JRE license correctly, if I have an application in > Java I can't distribute the JRE binaries as a part of a VMWare image or > a LiveCD without a "trademark license agreement" with Sun. Would it be > possible with OpenJDK? OpenJDK is under the GPL, so you can distribute it under those terms. -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 26 06:30:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C4E1065670 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:30:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A94C8FC1B for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:30:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mBQ6Umaa068810 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mBQ6UmCs068809 for freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:30:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:30:48 -0800 From: Greg Lewis To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20081226063048.GA68710@misty.eyesbeyond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Subject: Host for jdk16 distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:30:28 -0000 G'day all, As you may have noticed, Sun have removed the source files for Update 3. I will contact Sun about this, but I expect they may well suggest we should just switch to OpenJDK 6 and they have no plans for more JRL source releases. While thats going on, we have two alternatives as I see it: 1. Someone could volunteer to host the source files. To comply with the JRL you need to implement some kind of click through to have people retrieve them. I think this rules out me hosting them on the public FreeBSD pages. 2. I could release a quick patchset which is essentially unchanged except that I do a diff against an earlier source release (which I notice are still available). The patchset would include the changes to bring that source code up to Update 3, so it wouldn't matter what the source version was. Comments? Volunteers? -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 26 08:09:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C7C106567A for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mail.anduin.net (mail.anduin.net [213.225.74.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF71B8FC36 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:09:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from [212.62.248.146] (helo=[192.168.2.176]) by mail.anduin.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LG7Ei-0002KJ-N7; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:35:56 +0100 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= To: Greg Lewis In-Reply-To: <20081226063048.GA68710@misty.eyesbeyond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:35:56 +0100 References: <20081226063048.GA68710@misty.eyesbeyond.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Host for jdk16 distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 08:09:31 -0000 Hi, I have hosting facilities and resources to spare, but I could need help creating the click-through interface you're talking about. Can you be more specific about what will be required of (me/the pages)? /Eirik On Dec 26, 2008, at 07:30, Greg Lewis wrote: > G'day all, > > As you may have noticed, Sun have removed the source files for > Update 3. > > I will contact Sun about this, but I expect they may well suggest we > should > just switch to OpenJDK 6 and they have no plans for more JRL source > releases. While thats going on, we have two alternatives as I see it: > > 1. Someone could volunteer to host the source files. To comply with > the > JRL you need to implement some kind of click through to have people > retrieve them. I think this rules out me hosting them on the public > FreeBSD pages. > > 2. I could release a quick patchset which is essentially unchanged > except > that I do a diff against an earlier source release (which I notice > are > still available). The patchset would include the changes to bring > that > source code up to Update 3, so it wouldn't matter what the source > version was. > > Comments? Volunteers? > -- > Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com > Eyes Beyond Web : http:// > www.eyesbeyond.com > Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Dec 26 17:40:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F7F1065673 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (gerbercreations.com [71.39.140.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18AA8FC18 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: from misty.eyesbeyond.com (localhost.eyesbeyond.com [127.0.0.1]) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mBQHeXh8044477; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by misty.eyesbeyond.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mBQHeWPJ044470; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:40:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@eyesbeyond.com) X-Authentication-Warning: misty.eyesbeyond.com: glewis set sender to glewis@eyesbeyond.com using -f Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:40:32 -0800 From: Greg Lewis To: Eirik ?verby Message-ID: <20081226174032.GA44119@misty.eyesbeyond.com> References: <20081226063048.GA68710@misty.eyesbeyond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-java@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Host for jdk16 distfiles? X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:40:29 -0000 G'day Eirik, On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 08:35:56AM +0100, Eirik ?verby wrote: > I have hosting facilities and resources to spare, but I could need > help creating the click-through interface you're talking about. Can > you be more specific about what will be required of (me/the pages)? Ultimately its up to you and your reading of the JRL about what is required. The result of what I believe is required is the patchset download page -- basically I require that a user agree that they are a licensee (of the JRL) in good standing before they can download the patchset. This is pretty much what Sun requires too. Obviously option 2 below has the least legal risk for anyone since the main source will still be downloaded from Sun. However, I wonder how long that source will last. > On Dec 26, 2008, at 07:30, Greg Lewis wrote: > > > G'day all, > > > > As you may have noticed, Sun have removed the source files for > > Update 3. > > > > I will contact Sun about this, but I expect they may well suggest we > > should > > just switch to OpenJDK 6 and they have no plans for more JRL source > > releases. While thats going on, we have two alternatives as I see it: > > > > 1. Someone could volunteer to host the source files. To comply with > > the > > JRL you need to implement some kind of click through to have people > > retrieve them. I think this rules out me hosting them on the public > > FreeBSD pages. > > > > 2. I could release a quick patchset which is essentially unchanged > > except > > that I do a diff against an earlier source release (which I notice > > are > > still available). The patchset would include the changes to bring > > that > > source code up to Update 3, so it wouldn't matter what the source > > version was. > > > > Comments? Volunteers? > > -- > > Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com > > Eyes Beyond Web : http:// > > www.eyesbeyond.com > > Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-java@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-java > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-java- > > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Greg Lewis Email : glewis@eyesbeyond.com Eyes Beyond Web : http://www.eyesbeyond.com Information Technology FreeBSD : glewis@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 16:50:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37754106564A for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zz_11@mail.bg) Received: from secondary-mx.mail.bg (secondary-mx.mail.bg [193.201.172.126]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01F08FC21 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:50:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zz_11@mail.bg) Received: from localhost (unknown [10.0.0.194]) by secondary-mx.mail.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5764B912 for ; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:34:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from client-6-57.speedy-net.bg (client-6-57.speedy-net.bg [94.73.6.57]) by mail.bg (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:34:23 +0200 Message-ID: <20081227183423.shbg00ejtw4oc4k0@mail.bg> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:34:23 +0200 From: zz_11@mail.bg To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mail.BG Webmail H3 (4.1.4) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: =?windows-1251?b?0uXq8fLu4uAg?= =?windows-1251?b?4uXw8ej/IA==?= =?windows-1251?b?7eAg?= =?windows-1251?b?7+jx7O7y7g==?= X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: jdk 1.4 on 64 bit FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:50:24 -0000 Hi all, I am using FreeBSD i386 and jdk 1.4 for my servers. 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