From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 5 10:33:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1D6106568E for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 10:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from smtp.ht-systems.ru (mr0.ht-systems.ru [78.110.50.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AEA8FC21 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 10:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from [83.237.168.152] (helo=kibab-nb) by smtp.ht-systems.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KmQvA-0004gZ-8K; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:33:04 +0400 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:32:58 +0400 From: Ilya Bakulin To: Reg Me Please Message-Id: <20081005143258.fe83e6f7.webmaster@kibab.com> In-Reply-To: <200810021621.52597.regmeplease@gmail.com> References: <200810021621.52597.regmeplease@gmail.com> Organization: HT-Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_14_32_58_+0400_UyLMc2xsMAHt7aFm" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on laptops X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:33:08 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_14_32_58_+0400_UyLMc2xsMAHt7aFm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:21:52 +0200 Reg Me Please wrote: > Hi all. >=20 > I'm considering to move from Linux to FreeBSD on my main laptop. > I don't have enough time resources for the "test and try" process > I'd like to know from the community what is the status for: > 0. Core2 Duo CPUs > 1. Support for modern chipsets (ICH8) > 2. support for power management (mostly ACPI and CPU clock freq. ) on lap= tops > 3. support for accelerated graphic cards (nVidia GeForce 8600M GT) > 4. support for Intel wifi (4965 AGN) > 5. support for other hardware like audio, card readers, i-Link, USB >=20 > And, of course, any advise about FreeBSD on laptops will be highly > appreciated. >=20 > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I'm running FreeBSD 7-STABLE/i386 on Dell Vostro 1310 laptop. So: * Core2Duo CPU is well supported. powerd is able to adjust clock speed acc= ording to current system needs; hardware temperature monitoring (via corete= mp(4) ) works pretty good. * ACPI works OK, though sometimes EC starts to behave strangely. It stops = responding to battery _BST calls, so I have to descrease debug.acpi.ec.time= out in order to work comfortly... Vostro 1310 also has EXTREMELY buggy ACPI= AML (200+ errors when trying to simply recompile ASL). * My GeForce 8400M GS is well supported by proprietary NVIDIA driver. Feat= ures like Tvin-View work nice, also driver adjusts GPU speed according to s= ystem needs. Hardware accelleration works well. * Audio subsystem works nice with recent snd_hda update, including microph= one (Skype runs OK). * My O2Micro card reader is recognized by recent sdhci driver update, but = it handles not all cards I have, and this code is neither in -CURRENT nor i= n -STABLE yet. =20 --=20 Ilya Bakulin --Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_14_32_58_+0400_UyLMc2xsMAHt7aFm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkjol90ACgkQo9vlj1oadwgckwCfchOvA7IOJEfdzGxqWkP9ri8j ZG0AnAvCk8TfbsmDXsnXseSjdvK/1y2S =XN0e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_14_32_58_+0400_UyLMc2xsMAHt7aFm-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 5 14:35:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357EF1065686 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: from srv3.ultra-secure.de (mail.ultra-secure.de [62.146.9.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C4A78FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 12015 invoked by uid 89); 5 Oct 2008 16:08:03 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 12001, pid: 12012, t: 0.3595s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.93.3/m:47/d:8131 Received: from unknown (HELO lbe8010.example.net) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.80.95.155) by mail.ultra-secure.de with ESMTPA; 5 Oct 2008 16:08:03 -0000 Message-ID: <48E8CA53.7000407@ultra-secure.de> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:08:19 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <200810021621.52597.regmeplease@gmail.com> <20081005143258.fe83e6f7.webmaster@kibab.com> In-Reply-To: <20081005143258.fe83e6f7.webmaster@kibab.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD on laptops X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:35:06 -0000 Ilya Bakulin wrote: > I'm running FreeBSD 7-STABLE/i386 on Dell Vostro 1310 laptop. > So: > * Core2Duo CPU is well supported. powerd is able to adjust clock speed according to current system needs; hardware temperature monitoring (via coretemp(4) ) works pretty good. > * ACPI works OK, though sometimes EC starts to behave strangely. It stops responding to battery _BST calls, so I have to descrease debug.acpi.ec.timeout in order to work comfortly... Vostro 1310 also has EXTREMELY buggy ACPI AML (200+ errors when trying to simply recompile ASL). > * My GeForce 8400M GS is well supported by proprietary NVIDIA driver. Features like Tvin-View work nice, also driver adjusts GPU speed according to system needs. Hardware accelleration works well. > * Audio subsystem works nice with recent snd_hda update, including microphone (Skype runs OK). > * My O2Micro card reader is recognized by recent sdhci driver update, but it handles not all cards I have, and this code is neither in -CURRENT nor in -STABLE yet. > > Hey, that's good to know - thanks. I assume, sleep/suspend2ram/suspend2disk doesn't really work - or does it? cheers, Rainer From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 5 14:48:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5DE106568A for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from smtp.ht-systems.ru (mr0.ht-systems.ru [78.110.50.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7068FC15 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from [83.237.168.152] (helo=kibab-nb) by smtp.ht-systems.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KmUug-0007CU-GX; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:48:50 +0400 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:48:36 +0400 From: Ilya Bakulin To: Rainer Duffner Message-Id: <20081005184836.2a8f6cb0.webmaster@kibab.com> In-Reply-To: <48E8CA53.7000407@ultra-secure.de> References: <200810021621.52597.regmeplease@gmail.com> <20081005143258.fe83e6f7.webmaster@kibab.com> <48E8CA53.7000407@ultra-secure.de> Organization: HT-Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_18_48_36_+0400_Nh3I_j1zIhJVkO+A" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on laptops X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:48:53 -0000 --Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_18_48_36_+0400_Nh3I_j1zIhJVkO+A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:08:19 +0200 Rainer Duffner wrote: > Hey, that's good to know - thanks. > I assume, sleep/suspend2ram/suspend2disk doesn't really work - or does it? >=20 No, none of power saving modes work on Vostro 1310. hw.acpi.supported_sleep= _state contains "S3 S4 S5", no S1 support. With nvidia.ko it says "device s= uspend failed", without nvidia.ko it enters S3 but never returns back. It's not big problem, though, at least for me :-) With acpi_video.ko it's possible to control LCD brightness, it's good :-) Remember, that there is no S3 support at all on AMD64. My opinion is that F= reeBSD/i386 is an optimal choice for laptop, when there is no need for 4+ G= b of RAM. There is also Web camera present, but it's not supported by FreeBSD (it's U= VC capable, aand FreeBSD doesn't have UVC support yet). =20 --=20 Ilya Bakulin --Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_18_48_36_+0400_Nh3I_j1zIhJVkO+A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkjo09AACgkQo9vlj1oadwgVJQCcD+BFBDpjaK9Z2JGAVu6qoExn /a0An2tAPdMvRxZVSsXJd+14D+N85Z9e =nCsI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Sun__5_Oct_2008_18_48_36_+0400_Nh3I_j1zIhJVkO+A-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 00:15:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2C0F106568D for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C3D8FC14 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:15:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8835571FDFC; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:57:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at egr.msu.edu Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CE7Cus1LnE2y; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:57:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.0.234] (c-208-53-102-126.chrlmi.cablespeed.com [208.53.102.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mcdouga9) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AA80871FDFB; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <48E9545A.4080505@egr.msu.edu> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:57:14 -0400 From: Adam McDougall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081004) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Motin References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <48DEA4EC.3030300@bluezbox.com> In-Reply-To: <48DEA4EC.3030300@bluezbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:15:00 -0000 Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: > 7.1 requires s/kproc/kthread/ but otherwise works fine: > > sdhci0: mem 0xff9fb800-0xff9fb8ff irq 9 at device > 1.2 on pci2 > sdhci0: 1 slot(s) allocated > sdhci0: [ITHREAD] > > mmc0: on sdhci0 > mmc0: SD card: 507379712 bytes > mmcsd0: 483MB (read-only) at mmc0 > mmc0: setting transfer rate to 30.000MHz > mmc0: setting bus width to 4 bits It also works on my Dell Latitude E6500, I read and wrote some files in 7.1: sdhci0: mem 0xf65ff600-0xf65ff6ff irq 18 at device 1.2 on pci3 sdhci0: 1 slot(s) allocated sdhci0: [ITHREAD] mmc0: on sdhci0 mmc0: setting transfer rate to 30.000MHz mmcsd0: 968MB at mmc0 mmc0: setting bus width to 4 bits sdhci0@pci0:3:1:2: class=0x080501 card=0x024f1028 chip=0x08221180 rev=0x21 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Ricoh Company, Ltd.' device = 'R5C832, R5C843 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller' class = base peripheral Thanks! From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 03:24:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DD01065687; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A3878FC2B; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:24:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m963N0qB034432; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:23:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20081005.212259.74716023.imp@bsdimp.com> To: mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <48E9545A.4080505@egr.msu.edu> References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <48DEA4EC.3030300@bluezbox.com> <48E9545A.4080505@egr.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mav@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 03:24:50 -0000 It fails for me on my HP Pavilion. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 05:49:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242F41065691 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f21.google.com (mail-gx0-f21.google.com [209.85.217.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C01348FC17 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: by gxk14 with SMTP id 14so4441814gxk.19 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:49:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=w2DW89kUVJw+TuZHjwOeKoFHQmoiXgkt1zscxjtTqBw=; b=E5Q6ajLrvUwNQmBTZq9s0iKlP33E2whpTnadyJ0qCInEw2pSovcZNI2ZwEgEEXetKz MLEV4RTPyU0qD1n9ZF3gCzkElS8NSNIkX9ZD5RICKstpqus8iacia3af+ek0j9NTbdSN fzAfAmPxoeYiklVnnwrHZmlXEk8DsZNX0kfRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gTTg+nj5BjeA9AypaFYWLM1J/HXIuLl5mklNy0kZvX4JgDwmxwy9hwEMk3hyruGF9R 1h1v2g433rOJCPjLeAIeIjtIX6H4YC9+NqUYeVn44sJDexNHVBPljEUS55E0AWaNnQSp I5xLPz+gBebkwCAxKkQMmaT5wD64CTMPcF2J4= Received: by 10.150.58.5 with SMTP id g5mr6956440yba.134.1223270779773; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.137.11 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:26:19 -0400 From: "Zaphod Beeblebrox" To: "Alexander Motin" In-Reply-To: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:49:28 -0000 On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Alexander Motin wrote: > Hi. > > I would like to present initial revision of my generic PCI SD Host > Controller driver (sdhci). It support PCI devices with class 8 and subclass > 5 according to SD Host Controller Specification. With some limitations it > successfully works on my Acer TM6292 notebook with ENE CB714 card reader. > > Things that are not working yet: > - DMA modes (code is written, but as my controller looks like has broken > DMA I have no ability to debug it), > - card insert/remove detection (need more thinking), you should reload mmc > module to rescan cards, > - SDHC and MMC cards (have no such cards now to debug that code), only > standard capacity SD Memory cards up to 4GB size are supported now, > - high speed (double rate) bus mode (need more thinking and DMA support). Most 4G cards are SDHC that I've seen. The notes on this that I've read talk about the fact that you can have a 4G regular SD card but that many (most) devices don't support it because of the need for a larger FAT to support 4G. I have two laptops with these controllers, but I have only SDHC media (4 and 8 gig cards). From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 07:01:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD461065686; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688868FC14; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:01:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m966wSfp036318; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:58:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20081006.005828.104066981.imp@bsdimp.com> To: zbeeble@gmail.com From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 3.3 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mav@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 07:01:22 -0000 From: "Zaphod Beeblebrox" Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:26:19 -0400 > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Alexander Motin wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > I would like to present initial revision of my generic PCI SD Host > > Controller driver (sdhci). It support PCI devices with class 8 and subclass > > 5 according to SD Host Controller Specification. With some limitations it > > successfully works on my Acer TM6292 notebook with ENE CB714 card reader. > > > > > > Things that are not working yet: > > - DMA modes (code is written, but as my controller looks like has broken > > DMA I have no ability to debug it), > > - card insert/remove detection (need more thinking), you should reload mmc > > module to rescan cards, > > - SDHC and MMC cards (have no such cards now to debug that code), only > > standard capacity SD Memory cards up to 4GB size are supported now, > > - high speed (double rate) bus mode (need more thinking and DMA support). > > > Most 4G cards are SDHC that I've seen. The notes on this that I've read > talk about the fact that you can have a 4G regular SD card but that many > (most) devices don't support it because of the need for a larger FAT to > support 4G. s/many/a few/g. 4GB SD cards work fine in every device I've tried them in... > I have two laptops with these controllers, but I have only SDHC media (4 and > 8 gig cards). Yes. The SDHC isolation protocol and media decoding stuff isn't written yet. Warner From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 08:20:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3D51065689; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Received: from spork.qfe3.net (spork.qfe3.net [212.13.207.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9940F8FC15; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Received: from [81.104.123.28] (helo=voi.aagh.net) by spork.qfe3.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kmkxn-000IZs-Ot; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:57:07 +0100 Received: from freaky by voi.aagh.net with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Kmkxn-0002Cl-7e; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:57:07 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:57:07 +0100 From: Thomas Hurst To: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <20081006075707.GA76333@voi.aagh.net> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Motin , freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@FreeBSD.org References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Not much. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: Thomas Hurst Cc: freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 08:20:39 -0000 * Alexander Motin (mav@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > I would like to present initial revision of my generic PCI SD Host > Controller driver (sdhci). It support PCI devices with class 8 and > subclass 5 according to SD Host Controller Specification. With some > limitations it successfully works on my Acer TM6292 notebook with ENE > CB714 card reader. RELENG_7_0, Sony TX1XP: sdhci0: mem 0xb0107000-0xb01070ff,0xb0106c00-0xb0106cff,0xb0106800-0xb01068ff irq 21 at device 5.4 on pci6 sdhci0: 3 slot(s) allocated none2@pci0:6:5:3: class=0x018000 card=0x81e2104d chip=0x8033104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = 'PCIxx11/21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller' class = mass storage sdhci0@pci0:6:5:4: class=0x080500 card=0x00000000 chip=0x8034104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' device = '10981734 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller' class = base peripheral This is an integrated SD and MemoryStick reader; sadly it doesn't actually attach any usable devices. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst http://hur.st/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 09:13:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8493D1065688; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:13:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9FA8FC0C; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:13:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPSA id 223687663; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:13:17 +0300 Message-ID: <48E9D6AD.8010202@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:13:17 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Motin , freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@FreeBSD.org References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <20081006075707.GA76333@voi.aagh.net> In-Reply-To: <20081006075707.GA76333@voi.aagh.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:13:20 -0000 Thomas Hurst wrote: > * Alexander Motin (mav@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > >> I would like to present initial revision of my generic PCI SD Host >> Controller driver (sdhci). It support PCI devices with class 8 and >> subclass 5 according to SD Host Controller Specification. With some >> limitations it successfully works on my Acer TM6292 notebook with ENE >> CB714 card reader. > > RELENG_7_0, Sony TX1XP: > > sdhci0: mem > 0xb0107000-0xb01070ff,0xb0106c00-0xb0106cff,0xb0106800-0xb01068ff irq 21 > at device 5.4 on pci6 > sdhci0: 3 slot(s) allocated > > none2@pci0:6:5:3: class=0x018000 card=0x81e2104d chip=0x8033104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' > device = 'PCIxx11/21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller' > class = mass storage > sdhci0@pci0:6:5:4: class=0x080500 card=0x00000000 chip=0x8034104c rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Texas Instruments (TI)' > device = '10981734 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller' > class = base peripheral > > This is an integrated SD and MemoryStick reader; sadly it doesn't > actually attach any usable devices. At this moment driver creates mmc bus only on card insert and destroyes on remove. Have you tried to insert something there? Do you have any reaction on card insert? -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 10:42:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32CE51065686; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Received: from spork.qfe3.net (spork.qfe3.net [212.13.207.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3DB8FC15; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom.hurst@clara.net) Received: from [81.104.123.28] (helo=voi.aagh.net) by spork.qfe3.net with esmtp (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KmnY6-000Khr-0W; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:42:46 +0100 Received: from freaky by voi.aagh.net with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KmnY5-0008KP-Og; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:42:45 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:42:45 +0100 From: Thomas Hurst To: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <20081006104245.GA24462@voi.aagh.net> Mail-Followup-To: Alexander Motin , freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@FreeBSD.org References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <20081006075707.GA76333@voi.aagh.net> <48E9D6AD.8010202@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48E9D6AD.8010202@FreeBSD.org> Organization: Not much. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Sender: Thomas Hurst Cc: freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:42:48 -0000 * Alexander Motin (mav@FreeBSD.org) wrote: > > This is an integrated SD and MemoryStick reader; sadly it doesn't > > actually attach any usable devices. > > At this moment driver creates mmc bus only on card insert and > destroyes on remove. Have you tried to insert something there? Do you > have any reaction on card insert? Yup, I've tried a 1GB and 2GB SD card and a 1GB and 64MB MS with two different adaptors. No combination of inserting, reloading mmc, or sdhci seems to make any usable device nodes. I note it doesn't appear to be allocating any IRQ's according to vmstat -i. Is it supposed to? -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst http://hur.st/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 6 10:50:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533D61065699; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:50:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB3EA8FC08; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 10:50:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from orphanage.alkar.net (account mav@alkar.net [212.86.226.11] verified) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPA id 223701220; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:50:08 +0300 Message-ID: <48E9ED5F.1060102@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:50:07 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@FreeBSD.org References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <20081006075707.GA76333@voi.aagh.net> <48E9D6AD.8010202@FreeBSD.org> <20081006104245.GA24462@voi.aagh.net> In-Reply-To: <20081006104245.GA24462@voi.aagh.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:50:11 -0000 Thomas Hurst wrote: >>> This is an integrated SD and MemoryStick reader; sadly it doesn't >>> actually attach any usable devices. >> At this moment driver creates mmc bus only on card insert and >> destroyes on remove. Have you tried to insert something there? Do you >> have any reaction on card insert? > > Yup, I've tried a 1GB and 2GB SD card and a 1GB and 64MB MS with two > different adaptors. No combination of inserting, reloading mmc, or > sdhci seems to make any usable device nodes. > > I note it doesn't appear to be allocating any IRQ's according to vmstat > -i. Is it supposed to? SD host should provide one IRQ and 256 bytes memory range per each slot. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 7 13:08:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111C510656A4 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:08:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from raven.bwct.de (raven.bwct.de [85.159.14.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF648FC18 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:08:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de ([10.1.1.7]) by raven.bwct.de (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m97CrQW9089670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:53:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (cicely7.cicely.de [10.1.1.9]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m97CrLJJ035771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:53:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: from cicely7.cicely.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m97CrKrg026359; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:53:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso@cicely7.cicely.de) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely7.cicely.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m97CrKZr026358; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:53:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:53:20 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20081007125320.GD25586@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> <20081006.005828.104066981.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081006.005828.104066981.imp@bsdimp.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely7.cicely.de 7.0-STABLE i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on spamd.cicely.de Cc: mav@freebsd.org, zbeeble@gmail.com, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ticso@cicely.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:08:20 -0000 On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 12:58:28AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > From: "Zaphod Beeblebrox" > Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements > Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:26:19 -0400 > > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Alexander Motin wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > I would like to present initial revision of my generic PCI SD Host > > > Controller driver (sdhci). It support PCI devices with class 8 and subclass > > > 5 according to SD Host Controller Specification. With some limitations it > > > successfully works on my Acer TM6292 notebook with ENE CB714 card reader. > > > > > > > > > > Things that are not working yet: > > > - DMA modes (code is written, but as my controller looks like has broken > > > DMA I have no ability to debug it), > > > - card insert/remove detection (need more thinking), you should reload mmc > > > module to rescan cards, > > > - SDHC and MMC cards (have no such cards now to debug that code), only > > > standard capacity SD Memory cards up to 4GB size are supported now, > > > - high speed (double rate) bus mode (need more thinking and DMA support). > > > > > > Most 4G cards are SDHC that I've seen. The notes on this that I've read > > talk about the fact that you can have a 4G regular SD card but that many > > (most) devices don't support it because of the need for a larger FAT to > > support 4G. > > s/many/a few/g. 4GB SD cards work fine in every device I've tried > them in... You are quite lucky then. 4G-SD are non standard and I have a few devices where they don't work with. Sadly I even own a USB reader, which is still being sold, that doen't work with 2G cards - it just truncates them at 1G - sigh. -- B.Walter http://www.bwct.de Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 07:38:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC4021065691; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:38:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from smtp.ht-systems.ru (mr0.ht-systems.ru [78.110.50.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5B18FC21; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:38:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from [85.140.151.168] (helo=kibab-nb) by smtp.ht-systems.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KnTdC-0007fG-Hk; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:38:50 +0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:38:48 +0400 From: Ilya Bakulin To: "Zaphod Beeblebrox" Message-Id: <20081008113848.c9b44354.webmaster@kibab.com> In-Reply-To: <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> Organization: HT-Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_11_38_48_+0400_9.Z3D3MtL6iCT7wi" Cc: Alexander Motin , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, imp@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:38:53 -0000 --Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_11_38_48_+0400_9.Z3D3MtL6iCT7wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:26:19 -0400 "Zaphod Beeblebrox" wrote: > Most 4G cards are SDHC that I've seen. The notes on this that I've read > talk about the fact that you can have a 4G regular SD card but that many > (most) devices don't support it because of the need for a larger FAT to > support 4G. >=20 > I have two laptops with these controllers, but I have only SDHC media (4 = and > 8 gig cards). I have 4G SD card (not SDHC), this driver works perfectly with it.=20 Card is Transcend 4Gb 150x. Output from dmesg:=20 sdhci0-slot0: Card inserted mmc0: on sdhci0 mmcsd0: 3926MB at mmc0 mmc0: setting transfer rate to 30.000MHz mmc0: setting bus width to 4 bits GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mmcsd0 is msdosfs/WM_ILYA. I've been able to copy large file (diablo jdk 1.6) to and from this card, w= ith no file corruption. I have another SD card, 2 Gb size, in my camera. It's from Kingston. It doe= sn't work: sdhci0-slot0: Card inserted mmc0: on sdhci0 sdhci0-slot0: Command error 1 (opcode 2 arg 0 flags 103 dlen 0 dflags 0) mmc0: setting transfer rate to 50.000MHz ... and no new storage devices appear. --=20 Ilya Bakulin --Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_11_38_48_+0400_9.Z3D3MtL6iCT7wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkjsY40ACgkQo9vlj1oadwjNBACeNVxxNOVZ5u3FUHqtX3PxV1GW ZJwAoJQUgXFZaONfuMJBY5+NhqJ7ZXHi =QZxx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_11_38_48_+0400_9.Z3D3MtL6iCT7wi-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 07:54:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117CF1065697; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B488FC0A; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 07:54:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from orphanage.alkar.net (account mav@alkar.net [212.86.226.11] verified) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPA id 224036699; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:54:46 +0300 Message-ID: <48EC6745.8020404@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:54:45 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ilya Bakulin References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> <20081008113848.c9b44354.webmaster@kibab.com> In-Reply-To: <20081008113848.c9b44354.webmaster@kibab.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Zaphod Beeblebrox , imp@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:54:49 -0000 Ilya Bakulin wrote: > I have another SD card, 2 Gb size, in my camera. It's from Kingston. It doesn't work: > > sdhci0-slot0: Card inserted > mmc0: on sdhci0 > sdhci0-slot0: Command error 1 (opcode 2 arg 0 flags 103 dlen 0 dflags 0) > mmc0: setting transfer rate to 50.000MHz > > ... and no new storage devices appear. Theoretically it may be an SDHC card. They are not responding to incompatible host with alike symptoms. I have already implemented MMC and SDHC support and going to publish it soon. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 08:58:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5501065691; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 08:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from smtp.ht-systems.ru (mr0.ht-systems.ru [78.110.50.55]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 790FE8FC24; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 08:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@kibab.com) Received: from [85.140.151.168] (helo=kibab-nb) by smtp.ht-systems.ru with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1KnUs9-0002IW-HV; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:58:21 +0400 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 12:58:20 +0400 From: Ilya Bakulin To: Alexander Motin Message-Id: <20081008125820.64e72352.webmaster@kibab.com> In-Reply-To: <48EC6745.8020404@FreeBSD.org> References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> <5f67a8c40810052226k3070a11ah463a819c677f6307@mail.gmail.com> <20081008113848.c9b44354.webmaster@kibab.com> <48EC6745.8020404@FreeBSD.org> Organization: HT-Systems X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_12_58_20_+0400_O4mBWNkDFWrKS_OB" Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, Zaphod Beeblebrox , imp@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:58:24 -0000 --Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_12_58_20_+0400_O4mBWNkDFWrKS_OB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:54:45 +0300 Alexander Motin wrote: > Theoretically it may be an SDHC card. They are not responding to > incompatible host with alike symptoms. I have already implemented MMC > and SDHC support and going to publish it soon. >=20 > --=20 > Alexander Motin It's not SDHC, because none of my home card readers understand SDHC, and th= is card can be read in all of them. Under Windows (installed on the same la= ptop) this card can be read. If you need any further information about this card - just say what you nee= d :-) I also have micro SDHC card (not mine), it responds exactly as that 2 Gb SD= ... But it can't be read in all my home equipment either :) --=20 Ilya Bakulin --Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_12_58_20_+0400_O4mBWNkDFWrKS_OB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkjsdjAACgkQo9vlj1oadwiVvgCfS4hZ6oPt4hfEzL28Jj/vyM19 /OgAn1kmI74WDGEpCLE5eyA0YC2kID6T =LFFR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__8_Oct_2008_12_58_20_+0400_O4mBWNkDFWrKS_OB-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 21:25:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F441065688 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E588FC18 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 21:25:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from yoda.pixi.com (yoda.pixi.com [206.127.224.41]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m98LPvVB022568 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:25:57 -1000 (HST) Received: from webmail.pixi.com (yoda.pixi.com [206.127.224.120] (may be forged)) by yoda.pixi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m98LPutW009516 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:25:57 -1000 Message-Id: <200810082125.m98LPutW009516@yoda.pixi.com> To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: knowtree@aloha.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 11:25:57 HST X-Posting-IP: 141.190.32.72 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.2.19 Subject: Fujitsu LifeBook T1010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:25:59 -0000 New question: which WiFi chipset is better supported in FreeBSD, Atheros XSPAN or Intel® WiFi Link 5100 AGN? What kind of witch's brew is required to make them work? Thanks for the replies to my question about installing from a USB drive. Sounds like something to avoid for the time being. While considering alternatives I realized that a larger screen would be better suited for this system's primary mission, as a demo and teaching system. I had been looking at a Fujitsu P1620, no optical drive, 8.9 in. screen, 2.2 lbs. Now I am considering the T1010, built-in optical, 13.3 in. screen, 5.3 lbs. This one will not go with me on my bike, but I have a Newton MP2100 for that. More info at Gary Dunn Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.net/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 8 23:35:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BEF8106568B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209C78FC14 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from Macintosh-4.local ([10.0.0.194]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m98NZqk5088088 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <48ED43D8.1060906@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:35:52 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: knowtree@aloha.com References: <200810082125.m98LPutW009516@yoda.pixi.com> In-Reply-To: <200810082125.m98LPutW009516@yoda.pixi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-DCC--Metrics: ebb.errno.com; whitelist Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fujitsu LifeBook T1010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:35:56 -0000 knowtree@aloha.com wrote: > New question: which WiFi chipset is better supported in FreeBSD, Atheros > XSPAN or Intel® WiFi Link 5100 AGN? What kind of witch's brew is required > to make them work? HEAD has the iwn driver that supports 4965 parts but not the newer 5000 parts. I've not heard of anyone working to add 5000 support. Atheros XSPAN is a class of parts. HEAD supports 5416 parts in legacy mode. I have experimental code to support 9160 parts (legacy only again) but haven't sent it out yet. I also have code to support 9280 and 9285 parts but no hardware to test against and I am unwilling to put out the code untested. > > Thanks for the replies to my question about installing from a USB drive. > Sounds like something to avoid for the time being. While considering > alternatives I realized that a larger screen would be better suited for > this system's primary mission, as a demo and teaching system. I had been > looking at a Fujitsu P1620, no optical drive, 8.9 in. screen, 2.2 lbs. Now > I am considering the T1010, built-in optical, 13.3 in. screen, 5.3 lbs. > This one will not go with me on my bike, but I have a Newton MP2100 for that. > > More info at > > > Gary Dunn > Honolulu > Open Slate Project > http://openslate.net/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 06:23:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DD01065697 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 06:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53348FC19 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 06:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m996NlRQ045357; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:23:47 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:23:46 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: knowtree@aloha.com In-Reply-To: <200810082125.m98LPutW009516@yoda.pixi.com> Message-ID: <20081009161319.Q16723@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <200810082125.m98LPutW009516@yoda.pixi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2061268083-1223533426=:16723" Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fujitsu LifeBook T1010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:23:54 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-2061268083-1223533426=:16723 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Wed, 8 Oct 2008, knowtree@aloha.com wrote: > New question: which WiFi chipset is better supported in FreeBSD, Atheros > XSPAN or Intel® WiFi Link 5100 AGN? What kind of witch's brew is required > to make them work? Glad that Sam took that one .. however if you hunt around the various dealers you may find one (of either P1620 or T1010) fitted with one of what Fujitsu were still offering a few months ago; an earlier model Atheros (I can't recall which, but thought it should be supported, being one of those mentioned in ath(4) eg AR52xx), or the Intel 3945abg, which I then understood to be (perhaps) likely to work with Project Evil. > Thanks for the replies to my question about installing from a USB drive. > Sounds like something to avoid for the time being. While considering > alternatives I realized that a larger screen would be better suited for > this system's primary mission, as a demo and teaching system. I had been > looking at a Fujitsu P1620, no optical drive, 8.9 in. screen, 2.2 lbs. Now > I am considering the T1010, built-in optical, 13.3 in. screen, 5.3 lbs. > This one will not go with me on my bike, but I have a Newton MP2100 for that. I did a little research on these about 5 months ago for a friend who was agonising over the same sort of choices, after her older Pioneer tablet got completely fried by a hit through the modem during a thunderstorm. She wound up choosing the P1620, wanting something small and light for backpacking around with, and the 6+hrs from its 6-cell battery option. She already had an external USB DVD/CDRW from the Pioneer. At that stage Fujitsu were still offering 'downgrades' to XP Tablet which she installed after a brief play with Vasta (as she dubbed it :) which might be relevant if you're planning on dual booting. I notice they've removed mention of that from the website, but not P1620 specs. The P1620 is dead cute, and has a really sharp screen despite its size. Luckily my friend has slender hands, or the keyboard would feel cramped. Its 1.8" 4200rpm PATA HDD is kinda slow and comes in smaller sizes than the T1010 (which offers a 120GB 7200rpm option). Also, 2GB RAM max vs 4GB on the T1010, though the spec sheet infers that the extra 2GB is only usable with Vista (?) Anyway, 2GB should be plenty for FreeBSD. I can't comment on installing FreeBSD on it; so far she won't let me :) cheers, Ian > More info at > > > Gary Dunn > Honolulu > Open Slate Project > http://openslate.net/ --0-2061268083-1223533426=:16723-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 9 20:53:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02D61065699 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A7D8FC1E for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 20:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K8H00IQ5OOXA5C0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work2.kg4.no ([80.202.72.201]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0K8H007C0OOXPRY1@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:53:20 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20081009225320.33be3a93.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Acer Aspire AS5672 laptop - teste with FreeBSD 6.4-prerelease and 7.1-prerelease X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:53:23 -0000 Hello, FYI, I have tested my troublesome Acer Aspire AS5672[1] laptop with FreeBSD 6.4-prerelease and 7.1-prerelease tonight. Results in short: acpi still needs to be disabled to get network interfaces (bge and wpi) to work on this laptop - aka no improvement. More info on the FreeBSD page[2]. References: 1) http://tingox.googlepages.com/as5672 2) http://tingox.googlepages.com/aceraspireas5672andfreebsd -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen Norway From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 10 00:07:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039C91065690 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwinlculp@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B04DA8FC13 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwinlculp@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so97155qwb.7 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:07:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=fVjWntLmjMHKlnfsYDHFvXztAIeyJSWmsPs1RZzLbtA=; b=N6doNAfjUVunxv7vQ1fJ7HO2LwPgA6uTy2f9XYqGGP4kMYeT0ayinHKltmqunon2JO g6TjmkpdLxLw1xqw7EEhxc+LGNjhsx0chQaCcnDAYlJqNuicP1NU5uz/RzI1JjbgOLa6 H0mSTjgCM437JvncxN/0Dh4tj9vbF06IC5c0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=XtGGUBc3q016RniOruhakbocf+o+iTP5xxzB1NLeLKjHWDhnEdfFpFIji2+8unoOl1 YOOp/W4e0zMme7Qmyd17+D1+hYrMYQ130tMfxCLyDtBNqnHTGdjJcGm0luMQ8+UWKhA8 fImH0kg/bkGxezSHeUOG7P8v/UJu0sxhjLp6E= Received: by 10.214.44.13 with SMTP id r13mr1183436qar.65.1223595546489; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.214.11.12 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7affaed60810091639n2714fae1mbd34048bc8be89c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:39:06 -0500 From: "Edwin L. Culp W." To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: I lost ath0 support on current sometime between Sept 20 and Sept 26. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:07:43 -0000 I started this thread on current but I lost it to Ashish Shukla so I'm going to try here and see if I can explain it better and solve this strange issue. I was happily using Sam's ath_hal-20080528 patch and IIRC the committed ath_hal fixes until Sept 20. I didn't build another new kernel until Sept 26. From that date on I have been unable to get it working. The sept 20 kernel still works great. I'm using it to send this email. I don't have to change anything I just start kernel.old and run it rather than today's kernel that has no problems other than bringing up ath0/wlan0. Some general info for both kernels that I can find no important differences and now really doubt that the problem is hal_ath but something else that has changed and is causing the problem. I have thought of dhcp, ifconfig, ??? The general information for both follows: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #50: Thu Oct 9 05:27:41 CDT 2008 root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO rc.conf that doesn't change and works for sept 20 kernel but not todays: wlans_ath0=wlan0 ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP ssid virus wepmode on wepkey 1:0x2373FE9515 weptxkey 1" ifconfig with todays kernel for ath0 and wlan0: ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g status: associated wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/48Mbps mode 11g status: associated ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 450 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst roaming MANUAL The part of the dmesg that show ath0 and wlan0 with hal ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The same information for the Sept 20 kernel. FreeBSD ed.local.net.mx 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #34: Sat Sep 20 05:37:05 CDT 2008 root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO i386 rc.conf is the same. If config for Sept 20 kernel: ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g status: associated wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 inet 172.16.0.7 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/5.5Mbps mode 11g status: associated ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst Same parts of the dmesg form Sept 20 kernel. ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 Thanks, ed From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 10 02:21:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7C81065689 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD7E8FC17 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:21:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from trouble.errno.com (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m9A2LFaj097241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:21:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <48EEBC1B.1040003@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:21:15 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Edwin L. Culp W." References: <7affaed60810091639n2714fae1mbd34048bc8be89c3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7affaed60810091639n2714fae1mbd34048bc8be89c3@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-Rhyolite-Metrics: ebb.errno.com; whitelist Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I lost ath0 support on current sometime between Sept 20 and Sept 26. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:21:16 -0000 Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: > I started this thread on current but I lost it to Ashish Shukla so I'm > going to try here and see if I can explain it better and solve this > strange issue. > > I was happily using Sam's ath_hal-20080528 patch and IIRC the > committed ath_hal fixes until Sept 20. I didn't build another new > kernel until Sept 26. From that date on I have been unable to get it > working. The sept 20 kernel still works great. I'm using it to send > this email. I don't have to change anything I just start kernel.old > and run it rather than today's kernel that has no problems other than > bringing up ath0/wlan0. > > Some general info for both kernels that I can find no important > differences and now really doubt that the problem is hal_ath but > something else that has changed and is causing the problem. I have > thought of dhcp, ifconfig, ??? The general information for both > follows: > > > FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #50: Thu Oct 9 05:27:41 CDT 2008 > root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO > > rc.conf that doesn't change and works for sept 20 kernel but not todays: > > wlans_ath0=wlan0 > ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP ssid virus wepmode on wepkey 1:0x2373FE9515 > weptxkey 1" > > ifconfig with todays kernel for ath0 and wlan0: > > > ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 > ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: associated > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/48Mbps mode 11g > status: associated > ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d > regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 > wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 450 bgscan > bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS > wme burst roaming MANUAL > > The part of the dmesg that show ath0 and wlan0 with hal > > ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, > RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) > > ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 > ath0: [ITHREAD] > ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface > ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The same information for the Sept 20 kernel. > > FreeBSD ed.local.net.mx 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #34: Sat Sep > 20 05:37:05 CDT 2008 > root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO i386 > > rc.conf is the same. > > If config for Sept 20 kernel: > > ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 > ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g > status: associated > wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 > ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 > inet 172.16.0.7 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/5.5Mbps mode 11g > status: associated > ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d > regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 > wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 > bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst > > Same parts of the dmesg form Sept 20 kernel. > > ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, > RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) > > ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci5 > ath0: [ITHREAD] > ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface > ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 > Does it work w/o WEP? Do you any crypto errors show up in wlanstats and/or athstats output? Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 10 23:43:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03591065687 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736448FC19 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from knowtree@aloha.com) Received: from yoda.pixi.com (yoda.pixi.com [206.127.224.41]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m9ANhlWN013296; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:43:47 -1000 (HST) Received: from webmail.pixi.com (yoda.pixi.com [206.127.224.120] (may be forged)) by yoda.pixi.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id m9ANhlTK012818; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:43:47 -1000 Message-Id: <200810102343.m9ANhlTK012818@yoda.pixi.com> To: Sam Leffler , knowtree@aloha.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: knowtree@aloha.com Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:43:47 HST X-Posting-IP: 141.190.32.72 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.2.19 Cc: Subject: Re: Fujitsu LifeBook T1010 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:43:49 -0000 > knowtree@aloha.com wrote: > > New question: which WiFi chipset is better supported in FreeBSD, Atheros > > XSPAN or Intel® WiFi Link 5100 AGN? What kind of witch's brew is required > > to make them work? > > HEAD has the iwn driver that supports 4965 parts but not the newer 5000 > parts. I've not heard of anyone working to add 5000 support. > > Atheros XSPAN is a class of parts. HEAD supports 5416 parts in legacy > mode. I have experimental code to support 9160 parts (legacy only > again) but haven't sent it out yet. I also have code to support 9280 > and 9285 parts but no hardware to test against and I am unwilling to put > out the code untested. Thanks Sam, and Ian, for your help. This is just a progress report. 1. I made sure both computers had a PCMCIA slot, so that I can use a well-supported WiFi card until the internal drivers are supported. 2. I called Fujitsu and wound up talking with a very helpful tech support guy. He did not have part numbers but he understood my question and set out to get the answer. I told to mail me the result. Still waiting ... 3. To get get high quality video from the larger T1010 I still need to use the port replicator. The T1010 inself only puts out VGA. The port replicator puts out VGA, DVI, and HDMI. The P1620 alone has an "external monitor" port, let's assume that's VGA. Regrettibly, it's port replicator does nothing more. So for presentation tasks the T1010 with port replicator wins, unless I am willing to be limited to VGA connections, which of course all LCD projectors use. Crazy, isn't it? 4. I just saw on slashdot that Linux 2.6.27 is out, and it includes "... support for the Intel wifi 5000 series and RTL8187B network cards, a new ath9k driver for the Atheros AR5008 and AR9001 chipsets ..." That's good, no? If it is in Linux, it can't be too much longer before it gets to FreeBSD, right? OK, so maybe it isn't as easy as that, but I am clinging to hope here. 5. Here is your dumb-guy question of the day: What is HEAD? Is that the same as running CURRENT? Have a great weekend, everyone! Gary Dunn Honolulu Open Slate Project http://openslate.net/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 00:02:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DCF1065677 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111E58FC20 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9ANhZR5001753 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:43:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:43:17 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Message-ID: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:02:48 -0000 Well, for a change I'm not writing dub questions to the main list! This time, just some advice and maybe hand-holding ... with a pat/back and "That's all right; you didn't have any choice." I just bought the last pre-Lenovo [?] IBM ThinkPad. I would have much preferred the computer *without* an OS, but hell will freeze over before that happens. Nutshell, it's got XP on it and I'd like to know if I can scrape it off and either give or sell it. And if so:exactly how. It *is* old-fashioned as some reviewers wrote in '05, but it has Only the trackstick or stictrak to move the pointer. No scratch-and-sniff pad where I'll rest my palm. Built-in wireless and built-in cable jack. So: should I just drop in 7.1-R or Ubuntu-XYZ over the Windows or what? The ONLY use I'd ever have to use W is to play my French CD's. O/wise it's useless. thanks for any insights, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 02:09:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B93B1065686 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798728FC0A for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9B29jLe030972; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:09:45 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:09:45 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> Message-ID: <20081011121019.F16723@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:09:48 -0000 On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > Well, for a change I'm not writing dub questions to the main > list! This time, just some advice and maybe hand-holding ... > with a pat/back and "That's all right; you didn't have any > choice." > > I just bought the last pre-Lenovo [?] IBM ThinkPad. I would have Gary, what model & type is it? Exactly? Doesn't sound like a T43, they have a touchpad I think, and - we've been here before - I haven't heard of any single-core Thinkpads clocked faster than about 2.2GHz. > much preferred the computer *without* an OS, but hell will freeze > over before that happens. Nutshell, it's got XP on it and I'd > like to know if I can scrape it off and either give or sell it. Scraping it off is as easy as deleting its slice in sysinstall. I doubt you can (legally) sell or even give it away, and who'd want it anyway? > And if so:exactly how. It *is* old-fashioned as some reviewers > wrote in '05, but it has Only the trackstick or stictrak to move > the pointer. No scratch-and-sniff pad where I'll rest my palm. I'm waiting for some guinea pig to try an Adesso Easy Cat external touchpad on one (U$40 or so). I've asked several times, but noone so far admits to having tried one of these on any FreeBSD box. I gather that at a minimum they emulate standard PS/2 or USB mice, with tap, double-tap and drag and possibly right-click-tap, out of the box. > Built-in wireless and built-in cable jack. Before you wipe anything you could boot off disc 1, or -bootonly, and save a dmesg so we can see what all the hardware is, though given the model and type numbers, someone will likely already have [had] one. > So: should I just drop in 7.1-R or Ubuntu-XYZ over the Windows > or what? The ONLY use I'd ever have to use W is to play my > French CD's. O/wise it's useless. If the HD has plenty of room, you could shrink the doze slice down to enough to boot and use it if need be, maybe 4-6GB for XP, using one of the various tools such as Partition Magic. Depending on its model, you may need to boot windows to do the BIOS and Embedded Controller updates, though many more recent(?) models have bootable ISO images available. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 02:38:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5261065689 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7832F8FC1B for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:38:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K8J00BV8ZBDN7C0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:38:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from kg-work2.kg4.no ([80.202.72.201]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0K8J00GC2ZBD07J0@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:38:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 04:38:01 +0200 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-id: <20081011043801.b74a0b5c.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: ThinkPad T61 - tested with FreeBSD 6.4-prerelease and 7.1-prerelease X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:38:03 -0000 FYI, I just tested a ThinkPad T61[1] with FreeBSD 6.4-prerelease and 7.1-prerelease. Results on the FreeBSd page[2]. The iwn[3] driver works nicely in 7.1-prerelease, but does not compile in 6.4-prerelease. Two questions: - will the iwn driver be included in FreeBSD 7.1-release? - will the iwn driver be backported to 6.4? References: 1) http://tingox.googlepages.com/t61 2) http://tingox.googlepages.com/t61_freebsd 3) http://www.clearchain.com/wiki/Iwn -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 08:31:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317771065686 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:31:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D99508FC18 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:31:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9B8Vtvs004570; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:31:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:31:36 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20081011083136.GA79660@thought.org> References: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> <20081011012703.GE18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081011012703.GE18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:31:42 -0000 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:27:03PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-Oct-10 16:43:17 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > I just bought the last pre-Lenovo [?] IBM ThinkPad. I would have > > much preferred the computer *without* an OS, but hell will freeze > > over before that happens. Nutshell, it's got XP on it and I'd > > like to know if I can scrape it off and either give or sell it. > > It should have either been supplied with recovery disks or have > embedded software that will allow you to build recovery disks. This is an old (2005) l'top; used. The place I bought it is in Canada. I aked the dealer if he could remove it. He said: "Write 'No OS wanted' in the comment section." Which I did, naturally. I wrote this guy a polite letter expressing my dissatisfaction. Zip. No reply. --Of course with the global house-of-cards economy what it is, he wasn't going to say *anything*. > Unfortunately, the latter mechanism will require you to complete the > XP install process before you can create the recovery disks. Also, my > understanding (IANAL and TINLA) is that the XP license you have is not > transferrable so you would not be able to legally give/sell it to > someone else and I also believe the license key is linked to the > hardware configuration and may not work on (eg) a whitebox desktop. I > suggest you read the fine print in the EULA before attempting to sell > it. There was nothing but the computer and the cords. Transformer. Zero booklets, zero docs. I can probably find a DOS program to extract the key for this year XP, but if is illegal to sell, well, that how the world turns... . > > > So: should I just drop in 7.1-R or Ubuntu-XYZ over the Windows > > or what? The ONLY use I'd ever have to use W is to play my > > French CD's. O/wise it's useless. > > Your other approach is to shrink the XP partition (Knoppix includes > suitable tools or you can search the Internet) and put FreeBSD (or > Ubuntu - but this is a FreeBSD list) on the rest of the disk. I used > this approach on a HP laptop and managed to shoe-horn XP into 5GB > (though if you actually want to use it, you'd be better off with a > bit more space). thanks for your input.... > > -- > Peter Jeremy > Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement > an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 09:38:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B981065690 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279D28FC14 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9B9clu8004961; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:38:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:38:28 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20081011093828.GB79660@thought.org> References: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> <20081011121019.F16723@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081011121019.F16723@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:38:34 -0000 On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 01:09:45PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > > Well, for a change I'm not writing dub questions to the main > > list! This time, just some advice and maybe hand-holding ... > > with a pat/back and "That's all right; you didn't have any > > choice." > > > > I just bought the last pre-Lenovo [?] IBM ThinkPad. I would have > > Gary, what model & type is it? Exactly? Doesn't sound like a T43, they > have a touchpad I think, and - we've been here before - I haven't heard > of any single-core Thinkpads clocked faster than about 2.2GHz. It's a G41. --if i said t43, my mind was *thinking* "g41"; too often i'll be thinking one thing but my fingers type something else, maybe close, maybe not! (yes, i am way short on sleep again:) (*mumble*) I'll need help it turning the laptop over and getting the full model, type, &c. i Have run the Windows part and used the firefox to go places, but that's about all. haven't done more because I've got to get another CAT5 cable. > > > much preferred the computer *without* an OS, but hell will freeze > > over before that happens. Nutshell, it's got XP on it and I'd > > like to know if I can scrape it off and either give or sell it. > > Scraping it off is as easy as deleting its slice in sysinstall. I doubt > you can (legally) sell or even give it away, and who'd want it anyway? > LOLOL. Nobody is his right mind!! The reason I brought it up was that my 600E that i bought on ebay was sold without any OS. (I was smiling for a month.) Anyway, in case you need some (clearing my throat) "fertilizer", I can send you what i've scraped off. > > And if so:exactly how. It *is* old-fashioned as some reviewers > > wrote in '05, but it has Only the trackstick or stictrak to move > > the pointer. No scratch-and-sniff pad where I'll rest my palm. > > I'm waiting for some guinea pig to try an Adesso Easy Cat external > touchpad on one (U$40 or so). I've asked several times, but noone so > far admits to having tried one of these on any FreeBSD box. I gather > that at a minimum they emulate standard PS/2 or USB mice, with tap, > double-tap and drag and possibly right-click-tap, out of the box. By touchpad I'm assuming you mean that thing you scrape with your fingernails, correct? Or maybe pressed your fingers? I've tried that on my daughter's Macbook and i just don't have the dexterity. A few weeks--nay, a few days-- of cursor-moving that way: man, the guys in white coats would have to haul me away. Exactly why somebody doesn't make a keyboard with a mouse-curse track-stick on it, I don't know. Mose buttons could be beside the space bar. Think of the kilometers of saved travel-time going to from mouse and keyboard. --starting to rant, sorry-- > > > Built-in wireless and built-in cable jack. > > Before you wipe anything you could boot off disc 1, or -bootonly, and > save a dmesg so we can see what all the hardware is, though given the > model and type numbers, someone will likely already have [had] one. I'll poke around on web and on computer. It's heavy for a "portable"; 11 lbs to ship, so 8or 9 probably. Did I mention that I had the guy upgrad to a 120G drive and 2GB of DDR? > > > So: should I just drop in 7.1-R or Ubuntu-XYZ over the Windows > > or what? The ONLY use I'd ever have to use W is to play my > > French CD's. O/wise it's useless. > > If the HD has plenty of room, you could shrink the doze slice down to > enough to boot and use it if need be, maybe 4-6GB for XP, using one of > the various tools such as Partition Magic. Depending on its model, you > may need to boot windows to do the BIOS and Embedded Controller updates, > though many more recent(?) models have bootable ISO images available. Mmm. The more I think about it, the less use I have for anything M$. I mean, there are few people alive as ch--thrifty as I am. But I ain't stoopid enough to waste hours -> days to run an OS to play my French CDs. > > cheers, Ian have a good one, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 09:44:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33D901065689 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF3A8FC1F for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9B9iVB2004988 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:44:32 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9B9iVbI020201; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:44:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m9B9iVr9020200; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:44:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:44:31 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20081011094431.GH18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> <20081011012703.GE18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20081011083136.GA79660@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NT59pYSnj1ZLVgEN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081011083136.GA79660@thought.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:44:35 -0000 --NT59pYSnj1ZLVgEN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Oct-11 01:31:36 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > This is an old (2005) l'top; used. In which case, it probably shouldn't have come with an OS. > Zero booklets, zero docs. I can probably find a DOS program to > extract the key for this year XP, but if is illegal to sell,=20 > well, that how the world turns... . Normally, there would be a Microsoft sticker on the computer that is both the "proof of license" and gives the license key. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --NT59pYSnj1ZLVgEN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkjwdX8ACgkQ/opHv/APuIeMCQCfXQl+ON2M32Y0HN42fBLtICbM kSQAnirfM0UbDwCQOrtdXJErgCc7MhdP =Q8Oo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --NT59pYSnj1ZLVgEN-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 14:03:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D3F1065688 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06F98FC19 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by fallbackmx06.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9B1R7QC031175 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:27:07 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m9B1R4tK021840 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:27:05 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9B1R45f018701; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:27:04 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m9B1R37B018700; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:27:03 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:27:03 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20081011012703.GE18237@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tDYGg60iReQ7u8wj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081010234314.GA54139@thought.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: FreeBSD Mobile Mailing List Subject: Re: ThinkPad 3GHz [[ alledgedly]] X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 14:03:28 -0000 --tDYGg60iReQ7u8wj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Oct-10 16:43:17 -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > I just bought the last pre-Lenovo [?] IBM ThinkPad. I would have > much preferred the computer *without* an OS, but hell will freeze > over before that happens. Nutshell, it's got XP on it and I'd > like to know if I can scrape it off and either give or sell it. It should have either been supplied with recovery disks or have embedded software that will allow you to build recovery disks. Unfortunately, the latter mechanism will require you to complete the XP install process before you can create the recovery disks. Also, my understanding (IANAL and TINLA) is that the XP license you have is not transferrable so you would not be able to legally give/sell it to someone else and I also believe the license key is linked to the hardware configuration and may not work on (eg) a whitebox desktop. I suggest you read the fine print in the EULA before attempting to sell it. > So: should I just drop in 7.1-R or Ubuntu-XYZ over the Windows > or what? The ONLY use I'd ever have to use W is to play my > French CD's. O/wise it's useless. Your other approach is to shrink the XP partition (Knoppix includes suitable tools or you can search the Internet) and put FreeBSD (or Ubuntu - but this is a FreeBSD list) on the rest of the disk. I used this approach on a HP laptop and managed to shoe-horn XP into 5GB (though if you actually want to use it, you'd be better off with a bit more space). --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --tDYGg60iReQ7u8wj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkjwAOcACgkQ/opHv/APuIco9QCglqj65eVXaWOY8X6EEFFPVvAb 3pkAn02u9ZbZlyFfEG2DdWuVr2LaqAwW =+qt/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tDYGg60iReQ7u8wj-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 20:46:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7308C1065693; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9458FC1D; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.14) with ESMTPSA id 224565171; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:46:01 +0300 Message-ID: <48F11087.20403@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:45:59 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <48DEA8E7.2080503@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: RFC: PCI SD host controller driver & mmc/mmcsd modules improvements X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:46:03 -0000 Alexander Motin wrote: > I would like to present initial revision of my generic PCI SD Host > Controller driver (sdhci). It support PCI devices with class 8 and > subclass 5 according to SD Host Controller Specification. > > Latest patches against 8-CURRENT (mostly fit 7-STABLE) may be found at: > http://people.freebsd.org/~mav/sdhci/ For those who are not tracking actively, I would like to report that most of original driver's child illnesses are now healed. Driver now supports both PIO and DMA modes. Because of some special tunings DMA works fine even on almost broken ENE chips. I am reaching 15MB/s transfer (maximum for my controller's bus) with only about 1% of CPU load. Implemented 4 bits bus width and high speed timing modes support for high data rates up to 52MHz. Cards hot insertion/removing is now working. Together with in-tree mmc/mmcsd drivers improvements most of card types (SD, SDHC, standard and high capacity MMC) are now supported. -- Alexander Motin