From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 19 21:37:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F702106567D for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D498FC0A for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from trouble.errno.com (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m9JLaxPY066820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <48FBA87B.3030404@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:36:59 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Edwin L. Culp W." References: <7affaed60810091639n2714fae1mbd34048bc8be89c3@mail.gmail.com> <7affaed60810100658k354550abs2754a2c1ea1b0958@mail.gmail.com> <7affaed60810120614l79670870t7e4914615094056f@mail.gmail.com> <200810122351.13564.jhugo@meraka.csir.co.za> <48F2915B.6090507@freebsd.org> <7affaed60810122012n526929e1j9d38b977a029251e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7affaed60810122012n526929e1j9d38b977a029251e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-sonic.net-Metrics: ebb.errno.com; whitelist Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I lost ath0 support on current sometime between Sept 20 and Sept 26. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:37:01 -0000 Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Sam Leffler wrote: > >> Johann Hugo wrote: >> >>> On Sunday 12 October 2008, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Edwin L. Culp W. >>>> >>>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Sam Leffler wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I started this thread on current but I lost it to Ashish Shukla so I'm >>>>>>> going to try here and see if I can explain it better and solve this >>>>>>> strange issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was happily using Sam's ath_hal-20080528 patch and IIRC the >>>>>>> committed ath_hal fixes until Sept 20. I didn't build another new >>>>>>> kernel until Sept 26. From that date on I have been unable to get it >>>>>>> working. The sept 20 kernel still works great. I'm using it to send >>>>>>> this email. I don't have to change anything I just start kernel.old >>>>>>> and run it rather than today's kernel that has no problems other than >>>>>>> bringing up ath0/wlan0. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some general info for both kernels that I can find no important >>>>>>> differences and now really doubt that the problem is hal_ath but >>>>>>> something else that has changed and is causing the problem. I have >>>>>>> thought of dhcp, ifconfig, ??? The general information for both >>>>>>> follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #50: Thu Oct 9 05:27:41 CDT 2008 >>>>>>> root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rc.conf that doesn't change and works for sept 20 kernel but not >>>>>>> todays: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wlans_ath0=wlan0 >>>>>>> ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP ssid virus wepmode on wepkey 1:0x2373FE9515 >>>>>>> weptxkey 1" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ifconfig with todays kernel for ath0 and wlan0: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>>>> 2290 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g >>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>> wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>>>> 1500 >>>>>>> ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/48Mbps mode 11g >>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>> ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d >>>>>>> regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 >>>>>>> wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 450 bgscan >>>>>>> bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode >>>>>>> CTS wme burst roaming MANUAL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The part of the dmesg that show ath0 and wlan0 with hal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, >>>>>>> RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at device >>>>>>> 0.0 on pci5 >>>>>>> ath0: [ITHREAD] >>>>>>> ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface >>>>>>> ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The same information for the Sept 20 kernel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FreeBSD ed.local.net.mx 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #34: Sat Sep >>>>>>> 20 05:37:05 CDT 2008 >>>>>>> root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO i386 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> rc.conf is the same. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If config for Sept 20 kernel: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>>>> 2290 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g >>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>> wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu >>>>>>> 1500 >>>>>>> ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>> inet 172.16.0.7 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 >>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/5.5Mbps mode 11g >>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>> ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d >>>>>>> regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 >>>>>>> wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 bgscan >>>>>>> bgscanintvl 300 >>>>>>> bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same parts of the dmesg form Sept 20 kernel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, >>>>>>> RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at device >>>>>>> 0.0 on pci5 >>>>>>> ath0: [ITHREAD] >>>>>>> ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface >>>>>>> ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Does it work w/o WEP? Do you any crypto errors show up in wlanstats >>>>>> and/or athstats output? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I haven't tried it and I should have since I'm pretty sure that it is >>>>> something external. I've got travel in a few minutes but I'll do it >>>>> tomorrow on my AP at home to not interrupt anyone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Good morning, Sam. I just disabled encryption on my router and >>>> changed my rc.conf to >>>> ifconfig_wlan0="DHCP ssid virus2" >>>> and as you probably knew, it works flawlessly. >>>> >>>> Now I have to ask, what I can do about wep that works on my Sept 20 >>>> and earlier kernels and doesn't work on my recent kernels? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> ed >>>> >>>> >>> I don't know it this is related, but something changed with the WEP-key >>> index. On my EeePC I had to change my wpa_supplicant.conf file to use >>> wep_tx_keyidx=0 and wep_key0=mywepkey before I could get it to work. I the >>> past it always worked with wep_tx_keyidx=1 and wep_key1=xxxxx. >>> >>> The funny thing is that ifconfig reports it as deftxkey 1 and wepkey 1 if >>> I use index 0 in wpa_supplicant and ifconfig will report deftxkey 2 and >>> wepkey 2 if I use index 1 in wpa_supplicant.conf >>> >>> >> I believe it has always been true that key indices reported by ifconfig are >> in the rage [1..4] while wpa_supplicant key indices specified in the config >> file are [0..3]. I don't recall anything changing in that area for a long >> time but I did make changes to the net80211 crypto code around that time. >> >> Sam >> > > Thanks, Sam. What worries me is that I seem to be alone with this problem. > This should be fixed by r184063. Please let me know if it does not and sorry for taking so long to look at the problem. Sam From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 21:11:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8460106566B for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@cloudmaster.info) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A378FC20 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:11:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@cloudmaster.info) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:01:13 -0500 id 000D5348.48FCF19A.00007EEF Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:00:46 -0500 id 00130DF2.48FCF17E.00002957 Received: from dsl-189-129-13-54.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-129-13-54.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.129.13.54]) by cloudmail.cloudmaster.info (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: <20081020160046.17qwm4xcsbdws40k4@cloudmail.cloudmaster.info> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:00:46 -0500 From: eculp@cloudmaster.info To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <7affaed60810091639n2714fae1mbd34048bc8be89c3@mail.gmail.com> <7affaed60810100658k354550abs2754a2c1ea1b0958@mail.gmail.com> <7affaed60810120614l79670870t7e4914615094056f@mail.gmail.com> <200810122351.13564.jhugo@meraka.csir.co.za> <48F2915B.6090507@freebsd.org> <7affaed60810122012n526929e1j9d38b977a029251e@mail.gmail.com> <48FBA87B.3030404@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <48FBA87B.3030404@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080925 Firefox/2.0.0.17 X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.129.13.54 X-Originating-User: eculp@cloudmaster.info Subject: Re: I lost ath0 support on current sometime between Sept 20 and Sept 26. X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:11:19 -0000 Quoting Sam Leffler : > Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Sam Leffler wrote: >> >>> Johann Hugo wrote: >>> >>>> On Sunday 12 October 2008, Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Edwin L. Culp W. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM, Sam Leffler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Edwin L. Culp W. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I started this thread on current but I lost it to Ashish Shukla so = I'm >>>>>>>> going to try here and see if I can explain it better and solve this >>>>>>>> strange issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was happily using Sam's ath_hal-20080528 patch and IIRC the >>>>>>>> committed ath_hal fixes until Sept 20. I didn't build another new >>>>>>>> kernel until Sept 26. From that date on I have been unable to get = it >>>>>>>> working. The sept 20 kernel still works great. I'm using it to sen= d >>>>>>>> this email. I don't have to change anything I just start kernel.ol= d >>>>>>>> and run it rather than today's kernel that has no problems other th= an >>>>>>>> bringing up ath0/wlan0. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Some general info for both kernels that I can find no important >>>>>>>> differences and now really doubt that the problem is hal_ath but >>>>>>>> something else that has changed and is causing the problem. I have >>>>>>>> thought of dhcp, ifconfig, ??? The general information for both >>>>>>>> follows: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #50: Thu Oct 9 05:27:41 CDT 2008 >>>>>>>> root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> rc.conf that doesn't change and works for sept 20 kernel but not >>>>>>>> todays: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wlans_ath0=3Dwlan0 >>>>>>>> ifconfig_wlan0=3D"DHCP ssid virus wepmode on wepkey 1:0x2373FE951= 5 >>>>>>>> weptxkey 1" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ifconfig with todays kernel for ath0 and wlan0: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ath0: flags=3D8843 metric 0= mtu >>>>>>>> 2290 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g >>>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>>> wlan0: flags=3D8843 metric = 0 mtu >>>>>>>> 1500 >>>>>>>> ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/48Mbps mode 11g >>>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>>> ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d >>>>>>>> regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 >>>>>>>> wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 450 bgscan >>>>>>>> bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmod= e >>>>>>>> CTS wme burst roaming MANUAL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The part of the dmesg that show ath0 and wlan0 with hal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, >>>>>>>> RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at devic= e >>>>>>>> 0.0 on pci5 >>>>>>>> ath0: [ITHREAD] >>>>>>>> ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface >>>>>>>> ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- >>>>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The same information for the Sept 20 kernel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FreeBSD ed.local.net.mx 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #34: Sat Se= p >>>>>>>> 20 05:37:05 CDT 2008 >>>>>>>> root@ed.local.net.mx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO i386 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> rc.conf is the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If config for Sept 20 kernel: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ath0: flags=3D8843 metric 0= mtu >>>>>>>> 2290 ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g >>>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>>> wlan0: flags=3D8843 metric = 0 mtu >>>>>>>> 1500 >>>>>>>> ether 00:1d:d9:27:5c:e5 >>>>>>>> inet 172.16.0.7 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 172.16.0.255 >>>>>>>> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet DS/5.5Mbps mode 11g >>>>>>>> status: associated >>>>>>>> ssid virus channel 6 (2437 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:1d:7e:51:e1:4d >>>>>>>> regdomain 101 indoor ecm authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey 1 >>>>>>>> wepkey 1:40-bit txpower 16 bmiss 7 scanvalid 60 bgscan >>>>>>>> bgscanintvl 300 >>>>>>>> bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Same parts of the dmesg form Sept 20 kernel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ath_hal: 0.10.5.10 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, AR5416, RF5111, RF5112, >>>>>>>> RF2413, RF5413, RF2133, RF2425, RF2417) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ath0: mem 0xd0400000-0xd040ffff irq 19 at devic= e >>>>>>>> 0.0 on pci5 >>>>>>>> ath0: [ITHREAD] >>>>>>>> ath0: WARNING: using obsoleted if_watchdog interface >>>>>>>> ath0: mac 14.2 phy 7.0 radio 10.2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does it work w/o WEP? Do you any crypto errors show up in wlanstats >>>>>>> and/or athstats output? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't tried it and I should have since I'm pretty sure that it is >>>>>> something external. I've got travel in a few minutes but I'll do it >>>>>> tomorrow on my AP at home to not interrupt anyone. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Good morning, Sam. I just disabled encryption on my router and >>>>> changed my rc.conf to >>>>> ifconfig_wlan0=3D"DHCP ssid virus2" >>>>> and as you probably knew, it works flawlessly. >>>>> >>>>> Now I have to ask, what I can do about wep that works on my Sept 20 >>>>> and earlier kernels and doesn't work on my recent kernels? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I don't know it this is related, but something changed with the WEP-key >>>> index. On my EeePC I had to change my wpa_supplicant.conf file to use >>>> wep_tx_keyidx=3D0 and wep_key0=3Dmywepkey before I could get it to work= . I the >>>> past it always worked with wep_tx_keyidx=3D1 and wep_key1=3Dxxxxx. >>>> >>>> The funny thing is that ifconfig reports it as deftxkey 1 and wepkey 1 = if >>>> I use index 0 in wpa_supplicant and ifconfig will report deftxkey 2 and >>>> wepkey 2 if I use index 1 in wpa_supplicant.conf >>>> >>>> >>> I believe it has always been true that key indices reported by ifconfig = are >>> in the rage [1..4] while wpa_supplicant key indices specified in the con= fig >>> file are [0..3]. I don't recall anything changing in that area for a lo= ng >>> time but I did make changes to the net80211 crypto code around that time= . >>> >>> Sam >>> >> >> Thanks, Sam. What worries me is that I seem to be alone with this proble= m. >> > > This should be fixed by r184063. Please let me know if it does not =20 > and sorry for taking so long to look at the problem. > > Sam Sam, thanks so much. It works perfectly. I just cvsuped and rebuilt =20 all and rebooted and no problem what so ever with WEP plus it gave me =20 the opportunity to learn more about the new wlan0, WEP and WPA. Thanks, again. ed From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 21:44:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A773A1065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m4gicite@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F82B8FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m4gicite@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so1033688uge.39 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:44:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=KZq60KYCRk/qDjjjAL6Fpi6AG9DQENlV6v7bGwNqKGI=; b=P/E7b2N3bnc8AEPRmkIkN5t6RX08Ra5voa3RI0EwoapjAWcs6OswghfGY6KIeznpLV dCcXezZx0z2cRkfZsi+UcAnOer1LRZWk6+epFYGjCQJ2HZIHQzxES6aiJPG34kTYcfpt rcckfgmq2fOR2Kt/7YcTdzaUGjxk9ZaQhsqlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=T0TUMHXVoNHrkketaTy3MVKV/xRCWF+sD4C2vGdty94RZO24EQZVpRhQQLKu9cpcj1 6V7/0xuN3yLCIjTcbS5vet50HG2XjiQYKzZm4MN25ZWLRnhkHBFTCP0sW+dIbMfVToRd SACD5YX6qJvx62aQ1cdx+spSQxSEjsCgTCBVw= Received: by 10.86.63.19 with SMTP id l19mr157258fga.60.1224623643515; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.93.10 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:14:03 +0000 From: Magicite To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Clevo M860TU Install Issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:44:35 -0000 Hello, I purchased a new Clevo M860TU on the account that it ran linux very well and was hoping it would fair the same on FreeBSD. Not so much, little help? I'm giving you as much information as I know how to get. as I cannot get sysinstall to load I am having to type all these dmesg. The boot process is hanging. This is all with 7.x, I can give 6.x if needed. Hardware: Intel P9500 4gb DDR3-1066 Nvidia 9800M GT Atheros AR242x I can give linux equivilant commands when I am done installing that. Any input? Much appreciated. FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 These snippets of dmesg happen around the end where it hangs. 1. Default ... cpu0: on acpi0 ACPI Error (dsopcode-0350): No pointer back to NS node in buffer obj 0xc6a02d40 [20070320] ACPI Exception (dswexec-0556): AE_AML_INTERNAL, While resolving operands for [OpcodeName unavailable] [20070320] ACPI Error (psparse-0626): Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU0._OSC] (Node 0xc68556e0), AE_AML_INTERNAL est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 ACPI Error (dsopcode-0350): No pointer back to NS node in buffer obj 0xc6a0e300 [20070320] ACPI Exception (dswexec-0556): AE_AML_INTERNAL, While resolving operands for [OpcodeName unavailable] [20070320] ACPI Error (psparse-0626): Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU1._OSC] (Node 0xc685560), AE_AML_INTERNAL est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 ... cpu0: Cx states changed cpu1: Cx states changed unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ acd0: DVDR at ata3-master UDMA33 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_Install run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config Then just stalls 2. No ACPI ... unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ acd0: DVDR at ata3-master UDMA33 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_Install run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config Then just stalls 3. Safe Mode I can only tell you a little because console is spammed. It is the same as no ACPI, but with an interrupt storm. ... unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ acd0: DVDR at ata3-master UDMA33 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_Install run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 240 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 300 seconds for xpt_config When it gets to the unknowns, this is spammed. interrupt storm detected on "irq10:"; throttling interrupt source Other than the interupt storm spam, it is halted like the others. 4. Single User Mode Same as 1, Default 5. Verbose All I can tell you is what is spammed at the end. acpi: bad write to port 0x080 (32), val hex Where hex is ever increasing and loops when it hits 0xff01. I can also see run_interrupt_driven_hooks message in all the spam. Using some googling if you add the sysctl before boot debug.acpi.block_bad_io=1 it might be of some help. This just leads to a never ending loop of acpi errors - the scroll very fast and difficult to record might I add! ... acpi: bad write to port 0x080 (32), val hex ACPI Exception (evregion-0529): AE_BAD_PARAMETER, Returned by handler for [SystemIO] [20070320] ACPI Error (psparse-0626): Method parse/execution failed [\P8XH] (Node 0xc6850a60), AE_BAD_PARAMETER ACPI Error (psparse-0626): Method parse/execution failed [\_GPE._L01] [20070320] ACPI Exception (evgpe-0687): AE_BAD_PARAMETER, while evauating GPE method [_L01] [20070320] --repeat-- ... FreeBSD 7.0-REL 7.0 is a little different than 7.1. Messages are somewhat the same but they happen near the beginning of dmesg instead of around the end. The run_interrupt_driven_hooks issue is nonexistant as well, but it still hangs. I'm guessing that's a debug tool more than an error. 1. Default ... cpu0: on acpi0 ACPI Error (dsopcode-0350): No pointer back to NS node in buffer obj 0xc6862580 [20070320] ACPI Exception (dswexec-0556): AE_AML_INTERNAL, While resolving operands for [OpcodeName unavailable] [20070320] ACPI Error (psparse-0626): Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU0._OSC] (Node 0xc682d580), AE_AML_INTERNAL est0: on cpu0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 ACPI Error (dsopcode-0350): No pointer back to NS node in buffer obj 0xc6861100 [20070320] ACPI Exception (dswexec-0556): AE_AML_INTERNAL, While resolving operands for [OpcodeName unavailable] [20070320] ACPI Error (psparse-0626): Method parse/execution failed [\_PR_.CPU1._OSC] (Node 0xc682d4a0), AE_AML_INTERNAL est1: on cpu1 p4tcc1: on cpu1 ... cpu0: Cx states changed cpu1: Cx states changed unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ acd0: DVDR at ata3-master UDMA33 GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_Install Hangs. 2. No ACPI .. unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ .. Hangs. 3. Safe Mode Same interrupt storm as 7.1-BETA2. ... interrupt storm detected on "irq10:"; throttling interrupt source --repeat-- 4. Single User Mode Same as 1. Default. 5. Verbose Hang like normal, cannot see the ACPI errors since they fly off the scroll lock buffer. ... cpu0: Cx states changed cpu1: Cx states changed ... unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ unknown: timeout waiting for read DRQ ... Thanks again. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 22:05:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F151065670 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4378FC0C for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsP6O-0000uj-Am for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:49:20 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:49:20 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:49:20 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:49:09 +0200 Lines: 59 Message-ID: References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081009 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: Sender: news Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:05:04 -0000 Matt Olander wrote: > On Jul 25, 2008, at 3:23 PM, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:34:32 -0500, Frank Mayhar wrote: >> >>> My old Dell Inspiron 5160 has developed problems that I can't fix, sigh, >>> so it's time to replace it. I'm hoping for some good suggestions from >>> this list (cc'd to hackers for the exposure, I know everyone doesn't >>> read -mobile). >>> >>> My criteria: >>> * 3D acceleration. >>> * MiniPCI wireless (don't care which card, I'll replace it >>> anyway). >>> * At least 15" screen. >>> * Decent power consumption. >>> * Plays well with FreeBSD 7-stable. >>> >>> Nice to have: >>> * Dual core. >>> * >4GB memory. >>> * Working suspend/hibernate mode (and no, I'm not holding my >>> breath). >>> >>> So, suggestions? BTW, if I get a decent response I'll summarize it for >>> the list, along with the one I chose and my experience after >>> ordering/installing it. >> >> Maybe you can wait for this: >> >> http://www.ixsystems.com/products/bsd-laptop.html > > Hi everyone! I actually had our prototype of this laptop up at the OSCON > show in Portland and it was pretty well received. > Everything works for the most part although we're still tweaking some > things for ACPI. > > I'll have one at the FreeBSD booth at LinuxWorld in San Francisco next > week, August 5-7. We'll announce as soon as this thing is 100% and we're > comfortable bringing the product line up as an item that we're > comfortable supporting long term. Most likely, available to the general > public in September. > > best, > -matt > Hi, I have always thought that Fn key in left most bottom corner of the keyboard is, especially for programmers, a very bad idea. :-( Otherwise it looks very promising although DVI or HDMI video output would be very welcome these days as would be built-in Bluetooth. (Btw thanks for RS232!:)) Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 22:12:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A369A1065671 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61ADB8FC21 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KsPSj-00024c-NX for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:25 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:25 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:25 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:12:16 +0200 Lines: 14 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081009 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 Sender: news Subject: WPA/TKIP preferred to WPA2/AES ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:12:26 -0000 Hallo, My wireless router has a configuration option to support both WPA / WPA2 at the same time, so when a wireless client cannot talk modern WPA2 it can use old WPA instead. Now it works naturally in Windows and apparently in Symbian too but unfortunately FreeBSD (6.4) picks up WPA and less secure TKIP instead of AES. Would it be possible to amend this behaviour and use better and newer protocols/algorithms/ciphers when available please ? (that is AES preferred to TKIP and WPA2 instead of WPA etc.) Thanks, Martin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 21 23:47:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B881065672 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from ebb.errno.com (ebb.errno.com [69.12.149.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CEC8FC1A for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:47:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Received: from trouble.errno.com (trouble.errno.com [10.0.0.248]) (authenticated bits=0) by ebb.errno.com (8.13.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id m9LNlJ1E083334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:47:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sam@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <48FE6A07.7000507@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:47:19 -0700 From: Sam Leffler Organization: FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: martinko References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-Misty-Metrics: ebb.errno.com; whitelist Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WPA/TKIP preferred to WPA2/AES ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:47:21 -0000 martinko wrote: > Hallo, > > My wireless router has a configuration option to support both WPA / > WPA2 at the same time, so when a wireless client cannot talk modern > WPA2 it can use old WPA instead. > Now it works naturally in Windows and apparently in Symbian too but > unfortunately FreeBSD (6.4) picks up WPA and less secure TKIP instead > of AES. Would it be possible to amend this behaviour and use better > and newer protocols/algorithms/ciphers when available please ? (that > is AES preferred to TKIP and WPA2 instead of WPA etc.) > man wpa_supplicant.conf From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 11:24:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499021065673 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4E18FC20 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9018C6D434; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 751CB844A6; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:29 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: martinko References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:29 +0200 In-Reply-To: (martinko's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:49:09 +0200") Message-ID: <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:24:30 -0000 martinko writes: > I have always thought that Fn key in left most bottom corner of the > keyboard is, especially for programmers, a very bad idea. :-( Seconded. Worse still, on my Lenovo T60, if the Fn key is held down longer than a fraction of a second, it generates an input event which just happens to correspond to Gnome's default key binding for the "next track" function in media players... DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 17:36:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3C401065680 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87CB8FC1C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:36:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9MHat5P054203; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:36:34 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= Message-ID: <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, martinko , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:36:51 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:06:29PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > martinko writes: > > I have always thought that Fn key in left most bottom corner of the > > keyboard is, especially for programmers, a very bad idea. :-( > > Seconded. Worse still, on my Lenovo T60, if the Fn key is held down > longer than a fraction of a second, it generates an input event which > just happens to correspond to Gnome's default key binding for the "next > track" function in media players... > I've seen that Fn key, but don't know what it is for. What? you press it, then follow with the integers [ 1, 2, 3 ... ]? At any rate, maybe you can remap the key with ~/.xmodmaprc. -g > DES > -- > Dag-Erling Smørgrav - des@des.no > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 20:04:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A9C1065674 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87908FC0C for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ksjwp-0005Ya-E3 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:51 +0000 Received: from 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz ([90.178.41.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:51 +0000 Received: from gamato by 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: martinko Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:04:03 +0200 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <48FE6A07.7000507@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 200.41.broadband11.iol.cz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081009 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <48FE6A07.7000507@freebsd.org> Sender: news Subject: Re: WPA/TKIP preferred to WPA2/AES ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:04:57 -0000 Sam Leffler wrote: > martinko wrote: >> Hallo, >> >> My wireless router has a configuration option to support both WPA / >> WPA2 at the same time, so when a wireless client cannot talk modern >> WPA2 it can use old WPA instead. >> Now it works naturally in Windows and apparently in Symbian too but >> unfortunately FreeBSD (6.4) picks up WPA and less secure TKIP instead >> of AES. Would it be possible to amend this behaviour and use better >> and newer protocols/algorithms/ciphers when available please ? (that >> is AES preferred to TKIP and WPA2 instead of WPA etc.) >> > > man wpa_supplicant.conf Yeah, I could use proto="RSN WPA" but I was wondering whether it wouldn't be better if the system autoselected the best available protocol/cipher (if not specified otherwise) which in this case would be WPA2/CCMP instead of WPA/TKIP. Or is it not desirable for some reasons? Cheers, Martin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 20:18:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD8E106567B for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neldredge@math.ucsd.edu) Received: from euclid.ucsd.edu (euclid.ucsd.edu [132.239.145.52]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC598FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from neldredge@math.ucsd.edu) Received: from zeno.ucsd.edu (zeno.ucsd.edu [132.239.145.22]) by euclid.ucsd.edu (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m9MK6Z624743; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (neldredg@localhost) by zeno.ucsd.edu (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id m9MK6KO04273; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zeno.ucsd.edu: neldredg owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:06:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Nate Eldredge X-X-Sender: neldredg@zeno.ucsd.edu To: Gary Kline In-Reply-To: <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> Message-ID: References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:35 -0000 On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:06:29PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: >> martinko writes: >>> I have always thought that Fn key in left most bottom corner of the >>> keyboard is, especially for programmers, a very bad idea. :-( >> >> Seconded. Worse still, on my Lenovo T60, if the Fn key is held down >> longer than a fraction of a second, it generates an input event which >> just happens to correspond to Gnome's default key binding for the "next >> track" function in media players... >> > > > I've seen that Fn key, but don't know what it is for. What? you press > it, then follow with the integers [ 1, 2, 3 ... ]? At any rate, maybe > you can remap the key with ~/.xmodmaprc. Fn is usually used on laptop keyboards to allow two logical keys to share a single physical key. For example, see the keyboard pictured at http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/3415.jpg . On the extreme lower right is a key with "->" in white and "End" in blue. Pressing it by itself sends the keycode corresponding to an ordinary keyboard's "->" key. Holding Fn and pressing that key sends the keycode corresponding to an ordinary keyboard's "End" key. On many keyboards, pressing Fn by itself sends no keycode at all, so it cannot be remapped. It is also sometimes used to control hardware features which on a desktop machine might have a different interface. For instance, on the laptop pictured, holding Fn and pressing F6 would increase the screen brightness, probably without sending a keycode. A desktop machine would probably have a button on the monitor itself to do this. -- Nate Eldredge neldredge@math.ucsd.edu From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 20:47:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182641065676 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:47:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1ED78FC12 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VuwV1a00m0xGWP854wXlPY; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:31:45 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VwXj1a00Y2P6wsM3YwXkR9; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:31:45 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PaapGWNKAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=E4h5yzWqICjFJYN03vEA:9 a=1wRA5eh2oMDTXiNzr8YA:7 a=nInNPE0s5XMM8y9498rLfY_-8VYA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A78D0C9432; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:31:43 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Nate Eldredge Message-ID: <20081022203143.GA67740@icarus.home.lan> References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , Gary Kline , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:47:47 -0000 On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:06:20PM -0700, Nate Eldredge wrote: > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:06:29PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: >>> martinko writes: >>>> I have always thought that Fn key in left most bottom corner of the >>>> keyboard is, especially for programmers, a very bad idea. :-( >>> >>> Seconded. Worse still, on my Lenovo T60, if the Fn key is held down >>> longer than a fraction of a second, it generates an input event which >>> just happens to correspond to Gnome's default key binding for the "next >>> track" function in media players... >> >> I've seen that Fn key, but don't know what it is for. What? you press >> it, then follow with the integers [ 1, 2, 3 ... ]? At any rate, maybe >> you can remap the key with ~/.xmodmaprc. > > Fn is usually used on laptop keyboards to allow two logical keys to share > a single physical key. For example, see the keyboard pictured at > http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/3415.jpg . On the extreme lower > right is a key with "->" in white and "End" in blue. Pressing it by > itself sends the keycode corresponding to an ordinary keyboard's "->" > key. Holding Fn and pressing that key sends the keycode corresponding to > an ordinary keyboard's "End" key. On many keyboards, pressing Fn by > itself sends no keycode at all, so it cannot be remapped. > > It is also sometimes used to control hardware features which on a desktop > machine might have a different interface. For instance, on the laptop > pictured, holding Fn and pressing F6 would increase the screen > brightness, probably without sending a keycode. A desktop machine would > probably have a button on the monitor itself to do this. I always figured "Fn" was a good name for the key, given that it resembles the expletive that comes forth from my mouth when intending to hit Control. http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/9328.jpg ;-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 22 22:59:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E46FB1065671; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2328FC20; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:59:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from [10.47.0.250] (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9MN01mO056548; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) From: Gary Kline To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081022203143.GA67740@icarus.home.lan> References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> <20081022203143.GA67740@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Thought Unlimited Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:59:40 -0700 Message-Id: <1224716380.58305.44.camel@tao.thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Nate Eldredge , Dag-Erling =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?= , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: kline@thought.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:59:51 -0000 On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 13:31 -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:06:20PM -0700, Nate Eldredge wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Oct 2008, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 01:06:29PM +0200, Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > >>> martinko writes: > >>>> I have always thought that Fn key in left most bottom corner of the > >>>> keyboard is, especially for programmers, a very bad idea. :-( > >>> > >>> Seconded. Worse still, on my Lenovo T60, if the Fn key is held down > >>> longer than a fraction of a second, it generates an input event which > >>> just happens to correspond to Gnome's default key binding for the "next > >>> track" function in media players... > >> > >> I've seen that Fn key, but don't know what it is for. What? you press > >> it, then follow with the integers [ 1, 2, 3 ... ]? At any rate, maybe > >> you can remap the key with ~/.xmodmaprc. > > > > Fn is usually used on laptop keyboards to allow two logical keys to share > > a single physical key. For example, see the keyboard pictured at > > http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/3415.jpg . On the extreme lower > > right is a key with "->" in white and "End" in blue. Pressing it by > > itself sends the keycode corresponding to an ordinary keyboard's "->" > > key. Holding Fn and pressing that key sends the keycode corresponding to > > an ordinary keyboard's "End" key. On many keyboards, pressing Fn by > > itself sends no keycode at all, so it cannot be remapped. > > > > It is also sometimes used to control hardware features which on a desktop > > machine might have a different interface. For instance, on the laptop > > pictured, holding Fn and pressing F6 would increase the screen > > brightness, probably without sending a keycode. A desktop machine would > > probably have a button on the monitor itself to do this. Thanks for clearing up a back-of-mind mystery since I bought my 600E in 2003; I kept hitting the "Fn" for the ^ key, and *nothing happened* so I had to re-type the control sequence. It is an ill-planned layout and I'm sure that 'BM has heard about it from us hacker types. --Why this is the best list in the (known) universe. Seriously. > > I always figured "Fn" was a good name for the key, given that it > resembles the expletive that comes forth from my mouth when intending to > hit Control. That ain't that much of a joke, Jeremy. unless I'm at my desk with wrist-rest I can barely reach the back keys. [shoulder problems]. So far I've invented around 7--maybe 8--new profanities. BTW, if that jpeg is a Lenovo, is that a scratch-and-sniff pad below the mouse buttons? (The TPad's *did* need a redesign, but for me, the trakmouse/trakstick/<> was perfect. My left paw went right there.) ...FWIW, I just bought a G41 (3.06GHz) pre-Lenovo. gary > > http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/9328.jpg > > ;-) > From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 11:41:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAD11065675; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:41:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EF68FC1D; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:41:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44AC6D444; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C940E844BA; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:41:34 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Gary Kline References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:41:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:36:34 -0700") Message-ID: <86fxmn35e9.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, martinko , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:41:36 -0000 Gary Kline writes: > I've seen that Fn key, but don't know what it is for. What? you press > it, then follow with the integers [ 1, 2, 3 ... ]? At any rate, maybe > you can remap the key with ~/.xmodmaprc. They're used to access keys which won't physically fit on a laptop keyboard, such as the numeric keypad, NumLock, ScrollLock etc., and (along with function keys) to control hardware-specific functions like switching between internal and external display, turning bluetooth and wlan on and off, adjusting the backlight brightness, etc. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:09:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D561065685 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:09:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18618FC28 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:09:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m9ND901G011215; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:09:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:08:59 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: <86fxmn35e9.fsf@ds4.des.no> Message-ID: <20081023235822.I4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> <86fxmn35e9.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1822720482-1224767339=:4254" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Gary Kline , martinko , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:09:09 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1822720482-1224767339=:4254 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Gary Kline writes: > > I've seen that Fn key, but don't know what it is for. What? you press > > it, then follow with the integers [ 1, 2, 3 ... ]? At any rate, maybe > > you can remap the key with ~/.xmodmaprc. > > They're used to access keys which won't physically fit on a laptop > keyboard, such as the numeric keypad, NumLock, ScrollLock etc., and > (along with function keys) to control hardware-specific functions like > switching between internal and external display, turning bluetooth and > wlan on and off, adjusting the backlight brightness, etc. Not to mention the wonderful thinklight .. Re your original issue, can you get any mileage out of using acpi_ibm, devd and this post and/or the other one it references: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-mobile/2006-August/008959.html Seems strange a 'naked' Fn key doing something while running, though pressing Fn alone (or lifting the lid) wakes my T23 from its slumber. cheers, Ian --0-1822720482-1224767339=:4254-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 23 13:23:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB791065680; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7438FC20; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [84.49.246.2]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734F36D449; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:23:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 46923844BA; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:23:35 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Ian Smith References: <1216910072.2251.8.camel@jill.exit.com> <86fxmox51m.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081022173634.GA57706@thought.org> <86fxmn35e9.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20081023235822.I4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:23:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081023235822.I4254@sola.nimnet.asn.au> (Ian Smith's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:08:59 +1100 (EST)") Message-ID: <86od1b1m3s.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Gary Kline , martinko , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Laptop suggestions? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:23:36 -0000 Ian Smith writes: > Re your original issue, can you get any mileage out of using acpi_ibm,=20 > devd and this post and/or the other one it references: The laptop in question does not run FreeBSD. I gave up running FreeBSD on any sort of desktop or laptop computer years ago. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no