From owner-freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 2 20:33:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884411065674 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4629C8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:33:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F139E46C1C; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:33:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:33:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Chris In-Reply-To: <3aaaa3a0802291820j58a24de7wb39ebf2a2653f579@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080302203059.J31090@fledge.watson.org> References: <47C59591.6040600@errno.com> <3aaaa3a0802290744x25a81d68vf0ff101f6b7a819e@mail.gmail.com> <1204302128.2126.150.camel@localhost> <3aaaa3a0802290854t639559b6if0adc4009997e9db@mail.gmail.com> <3aaaa3a0802291820j58a24de7wb39ebf2a2653f579@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD bind performance in FreeBSD 7 X-BeenThere: freebsd-performance@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Performance/tuning List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:33:39 -0000 On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Chris wrote: > Ironically the latest server I got last night has a intel pro 1000 a rarity > :) > > I am just giving feedback as when I speak to people in the datacentre and > hosting business the biggest gripe with freebsd is hardware compatability, > as I adore freebsd I ignore this and work round it but its defenitly > reducing take up. > > Of course I know current re issues are getting attention which I am thankful > for, I fully understand the time and effort required to write drivers > patches etc. and have got no critisicms for the people who do this my > complaint is more focused on people claiming there is no issues its just the > hardware. It's no coincidence that Intel cards work quite well with FreeBSD, given that Intel has hired developers to make FreeBSD work well on their cards. The same goes for companies like Broadcom, Chelsio, Neterion, etc, who provide not only the necessary documentation, but also put development resources into writing and QAing drivers. Put pressure on your hardware providers to do the same thing for their hardware -- one or two people asking may not do the trick, but a few large customers beating on their sales engineers can make a big difference, and so can larger numbers of smaller customers. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge