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On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 08:24:52PM -0200, Leonardo Santagostini wrote:
> Thanks all for the response.
> 
> First of all, i installed qemu, qemu-launcher and kqemu from the pakages
> 
> IE: pkg_add -r qemu
> 
> 
> After all was installed i've tried with qemu-launcher, but without been able
> to open a file for disk selection.
> 
> Ok, i think.
> 
> i did a pkg_delete for this tree packages and make a build from the ports
> 
> All the output was fine. but the results were the same, here i will post the
> error
> 
> 
> pcleo# qemu-launcher
> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0: Undefined symbol
> "pthread_getschedparam"
> pcleo#
> 
> 
> Please tell me what more you need.

This has been discussed in the past[1][2] and I'm not aware of what the
final verdict in this matter was.  As the maintainer of qemu-launcher I
want to make sure it works correctly, so I'll have to dig into this a
bit further.

-- WXS

These are just a couple of results searching using "qemu-launcher
libgthread site:lists.freebsd.org" on google:
[1]
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2006-April/014116.html
[2]
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-September/043742.html

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Hi Thierry,

  Just checking, since the ports tree is unfrozen have all the
patches to OO been applied to fix these problems?

Ted

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:33 PM
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> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 2.3.1 on FreeBSD
>
>
> Le Mar  1 jan 08 à 21:21:43 +0100, Stephen Montgomery-Smith
> <stephen@math.missouri.edu>
>  écrivait :
>
> > My personal wish list is that opencascade builds on FreeBSD-7 with the
> > new stlport, and that octave-forge not be in its current
> "IGNORE" state.
> >  But I fully appreciate that I must either wait, or help make it happen.
>
> A patch is ready for that, and is available at
>
> <http://people.freebsd.org/~thierry/ports/opencascade.diff>
>
> but I cannot commit it right now: it will fail without the patch
> included in PR ports/118958. That means that we have to wait untill the
> ports tree is totally unfrozen.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Th. Thomas.
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 18:49:13 -0600, Ted Mittelstaedt  
<tedm@toybox.placo.com> wrote:

> Hi Thierry,
>
>   Just checking, since the ports tree is unfrozen have all the

The ports tree still isn't complete unfreeze until 7.0 release. I don't  
know about OO stuff, so I will let someone to answer to it.

Cheers,
Mezz

> patches to OO been applied to fix these problems?
>
> Ted
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Thierry Thomas
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 12:33 PM
>> To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith
>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: Problems with OpenOffice 2.3.1 on FreeBSD
>>
>>
>> Le Mar  1 jan 08 à 21:21:43 +0100, Stephen Montgomery-Smith
>> <stephen@math.missouri.edu>
>>  écrivait :
>>
>> > My personal wish list is that opencascade builds on FreeBSD-7 with the
>> > new stlport, and that octave-forge not be in its current
>> "IGNORE" state.
>> >  But I fully appreciate that I must either wait, or help make it  
>> happen.
>>
>> A patch is ready for that, and is available at
>>
>> <http://people.freebsd.org/~thierry/ports/opencascade.diff>
>>
>> but I cannot commit it right now: it will fail without the patch
>> included in PR ports/118958. That means that we have to wait untill the
>> ports tree is totally unfrozen.
>>
>> Best regards,


-- 
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Ok I will try it !

Thanks for the answer

Yours,

2008/2/2, Wesley Shields <wxs@freebsd.org>:
>
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 08:24:52PM -0200, Leonardo Santagostini wrote:
> > Thanks all for the response.
> >
> > First of all, i installed qemu, qemu-launcher and kqemu from the pakages
> >
> > IE: pkg_add -r qemu
> >
> >
> > After all was installed i've tried with qemu-launcher, but without been
> able
> > to open a file for disk selection.
> >
> > Ok, i think.
> >
> > i did a pkg_delete for this tree packages and make a build from the
> ports
> >
> > All the output was fine. but the results were the same, here i will post
> the
> > error
> >
> >
> > pcleo# qemu-launcher
> > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0: Undefined
> symbol
> > "pthread_getschedparam"
> > pcleo#
> >
> >
> > Please tell me what more you need.
>
> This has been discussed in the past[1][2] and I'm not aware of what the
> final verdict in this matter was.  As the maintainer of qemu-launcher I
> want to make sure it works correctly, so I'll have to dig into this a
> bit further.
>
> -- WXS
>
> These are just a couple of results searching using "qemu-launcher
> libgthread site:lists.freebsd.org" on google:
> [1]
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2006-April/014116.html
> [2]
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2007-September/043742.html
>



-- 
Saludos.-
Leonardo Santagostini

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Hello, freebsd-ports.

  I've revamped `devel/subversion*' ports (and add
`devel/subversion-java') to support building all four bindings (Perl,
python, ruby, javahl) with installed libraries. So, all binding ports
really build bindings and depends on `devel/subversion'.

 There are changes for users:

 (1) WITH_(PERL|PYTHON|RUBY|JAVA) options are gone from
`devel/subversion'.

 (2) `devel/subversion-(perl|python|ruby|java) depends (and doesn't
CONFLICTs) on `devel/subversion' via `svn_client-1' shared library.

 Technical details:

  All binding ports uses `devel/subversion/Makefile.common' for global
settings, like port version (but not revision), common
CONFIGURE_ARGS, etc. Also, Makefile.common contains common
`post-extract' and `post-patch' targets.
 All binding ports uses patches from `devel/subversion', via MASTERDIR
mechanism.
 Additional patches (EXTRA_PATCHES) are used in case of bindings
building to remove dependency of binidngs from in-tree libraries.
 Customized `build-outputs.mk' is used for bindings building (for same
reason, as extra patches).
 Customized `build-outputs.mk' is generated with patched `gen-make.py'
when subversion version is bumped up (by hands, it is my duty).

 All needed patches are provided by Eric Gillespie, who is one of
Subversion developers and subversion maintainer for `pkgsrc' system.
 All these patches are committed to main subversion tree and nominated
for 1.5.x release by Eric.

 Also, I suggest to rename:
  subversion-perl   => p5-subversion
  subversion-python => py-subversion
  subversion-ruby   => rb-subversion

 Please, test this one (see attach)!

-- 
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:43:53 +0100
"Jack Raats" <jack@jarasoft.net> wrote:


> Is someone allready making a port of postfix 2.5?

I was under the impression that, that was being held up due to the port
freeze. I have personally been waiting for an updated claws-mail for
eons now. Perhaps someone else has a more plausible explanation.


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On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 06:55:37AM -0500, Gerard wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:43:53 +0100
> "Jack Raats" <jack@jarasoft.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
> > Is someone allready making a port of postfix 2.5?
>=20
> I was under the impression that, that was being held up due to the port
> freeze. I have personally been waiting for an updated claws-mail for
> eons now. Perhaps someone else has a more plausible explanation.
I've sent a mail to the claws-mail maintainer, he said he had sent the
update request, but due the ports freeze the process is very slow.
This was a few weeks ago by now.


Sincerely,

Gergely Czuczy
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I'm already work on that. But i'll commit this only after complete ports 
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Hi Lev,

On Feb 3, 2008 5:10 PM, Lev Serebryakov <lev@freebsd.org> wrote:
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> python, ruby, javahl) with installed libraries. So, all binding ports
> really build bindings and depends on `devel/subversion'.

Thanks for all the work! This is much better than my version before.
I just tested with subversion-perl, it works well. In addition, I have
a suggestion for subversion-perl/pkg-plist:

@dirrm %%SITE_PERL%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/auto/SVN
@dirrm %%SITE_PERL%%/%%PERL_ARCH%%/SVN

These directories are also used by other p5-SVN-* ports, so it
would be better to use @dirrmtry.

Regards,
Rong-En Fan

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Hi Bob, can you try this?
   
  http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/xupgrade.html
   
  those instructions were taken from http://wiki.freebsd.org/XorgUpgradeCorrected and /usr/ports/UPDATING, with a few of my own notes added. If in doubt you should place your trust in /usr/ports/UPDATING. Without further ado, let's upgrade to xorg-7.2:
   
  Just try and let me know.
   
  Coko Tracy

Bob Willcox <bob@immure.com> a écrit :
  The info in /usr/ports/UPGRADING describing the steps to upgrade xorg
says to run xorg-upgrade. Unfortunately, I can't find *anything* with
this name anywhere on my system. Here's my uname output:

root@sarlacc:pf /usr/ports> uname -a
FreeBSD sarlacc.austin.ibm.com 6.3-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE #20: Wed Jan 2 11:29:25 CST 2008 bob@sarlacc.austin.ibm.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SARLACC amd64

I have (just today) updated my ports tree (via cvsup).

Anyone have any idea where I might find the xorg-upgrade file? Perhaps
it isn't required any longer. If that's the case, that would be good to
know as well.

Thanks,
Bob

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Hi!

I'm trying to port a linux app, and it says:

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Seems like linux_base-fc4 is too old for this application, as it
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>
> I'm trying to port a linux app, and it says:
>
> % ./app
> ./app: /lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4'
> not found (required by ./app)
>
> Seems like linux_base-fc4 is too old for this application, as it
> requires glibc 2.4. Is there a way to indicate in a port that newer
> linux_base is needed?

=46rom bsd.port.mk:

# USE_LINUX		- Set to yes to say the port needs the default linux base
                                  port.
#				  Set to value <X>, if the port needs emulators/linux_base-<X>.
#				  If set to "7", a dependency is registered to
		                  emulators/linux_base.
#				  Implies appropriate settings for STRIP and STRIP_CMD.

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I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the 
ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older 
ports.tar.gz files.

Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain 
wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?

Thanks,
-Jin



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Erwin Lansing <erwin@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
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> On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 01:28:14PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote:
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> > The above mentioned port is marked BROKEN because it "does not build with
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> 
> Are you sure you are looking at the right port?

Yes.

> print/lyx15 is marked
> BROKEN on all platforms and releases, not just for gcc 4.2.

My mistake.  However, it does not change anything else about my experience.

> > I commented out the BROKEN line, figuring I'd see if I could help fix it,
> > but much to my surprise it built without problems and runs just fine.
> 
> See one of the error logs:
> http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/i386-errorlogs/e.6.2008012319/lyx-1.5.3.log

Mystery of all mysteries ...

$ uname -a
FreeBSD monster 7.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #2: Sun Dec 30 11:59:30 EST 2007     wmoran@monster:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
$ pkg_info | grep lyx
lyx-1.5.3           Document processor interfaced with LaTeX (nearly WYSIWYG)

So, what information is useful to solving this?

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Erik Trulsson wrote:

>On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:46:20AM -0800, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote:
>  
>
>>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the 
>>ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
>>to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older 
>>ports.tar.gz files.
>>
>>Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain 
>>wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>-Jin
>>
>>    
>>
>
>You can always pull any version of source files (including the ports tree)
>directly from the CVS repository.
>See http://www.freebsd.org/developers/cvs.html for information on how to do
>that.
>
>You will however not find any version of the ports tree that include Wine
>0.9.37 or 0.9.38 because support for those versions were never added to the
>ports tree as far as I can tell.
>  
>
Yup, only 0.9.36 and 0.9.39 are there.

Thanks,
-Jin

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On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:46:20AM -0800, Jin Guojun [VFFS] wrote:
> I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the 
> ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
> to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older 
> ports.tar.gz files.
> 
> Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain 
> wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Jin
> 

You can always pull any version of source files (including the ports tree)
directly from the CVS repository.
See http://www.freebsd.org/developers/cvs.html for information on how to do
that.

You will however not find any version of the ports tree that include Wine
0.9.37 or 0.9.38 because support for those versions were never added to the
ports tree as far as I can tell.



-- 
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"Jin Guojun [VFFS]" <j_guojun@lbl.gov> wrote:
> I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the=20
> ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
> to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find
> older ports.tar.gz files.
>=20
> Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that
> contain wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?

Have you tried to use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade?
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Maciej Suszko wrote:

>"Jin Guojun [VFFS]" <j_guojun@lbl.gov> wrote:
>  
>
>>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the 
>>ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
>>to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find
>>older ports.tar.gz files.
>>
>>Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that
>>contain wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?
>>    
>>
>
>Have you tried to use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade?
>  
>
Maybe I did not use it correct so I could not find anything prior to 
0.9.4x -- see attached picture.

-Jin

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Jin Guojun <jguojun@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Maciej Suszko wrote:
>=20
> >"Jin Guojun [VFFS]" <j_guojun@lbl.gov> wrote:
> > =20
> >
> >>I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly
> >>the ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
> >>to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find
> >>older ports.tar.gz files.
> >>
> >>Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that
> >>contain wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?
> >>   =20
> >>
> >
> >Have you tried to use ports-mgmt/portdowngrade?
> > =20
> >
> Maybe I did not use it correct so I could not find anything prior to=20
> 0.9.4x -- see attached picture.

Install ports-mgmt/portdowngrade, then fetch older version of
emulators/wine - as you can see below - older versions are fetchable (i
mean older versions of emulators/wine port directory structure):
#v+
number         date         portversion  comment
    1  2008/01/25 22:20:04  0.9.54       Update to Wine 0.9.53.  Among othe=
rs, this includes the following changes:
    2  2008/01/20 21:45:25  0.9.53       Fix cleaning up the installation t=
ree in post-install (man pages).
...
   21  2007/06/23 16:49:00  0.9.39       Update to Wine 0.9.39.  Among othe=
rs, and including the Wine 0.9.37 and
   22  2007/05/19 20:04:49  0.9.36_1     - Welcome X.org 7.2 \o/.
   23  2007/04/27 20:42:14  0.9.36       Update to Wine 0.9.36.  Among othe=
rs, this brings the following changes:
   24  2007/04/15 11:22:55  0.9.35       Update to Wine 0.9.35.  Among othe=
rs, this brings the following changes:
...
#v-
After fetching directory structure, you can build it on your own

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* Jin Guojun [VFFS] (j_guojun@lbl.gov) wrote:
> I need to get wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 ports build structure, mainly the 
> ports/emulatoes/wine/Makefile
> to build these wine releases on FreeBSD 6.3-R, but I cannot find older 
> ports.tar.gz files.
>
> Does anyone know where I can find older ports.tar.gz files that contain 
> wine 0.9.37 to 0.9.39 releases?
ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade will help you.

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Marcus Alves Grando wrote:

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>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
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>> Is someone allready making a port of postfix 2.5?
> 
> 
> I'm already work on that. But i'll commit this only after complete ports 
> unfreeze (after 7.0 RELEASE).
> 
> Regards

I am using postfix-current-2.5.20080116,4 but I have problems with this 
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Current FreeBSD problem reports
The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. 
Bugs can be in one of several states:

o - open
A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed.

a - analyzed
The problem is understood and a solution is being sought.

f - feedback
Further work requires additional information from the
     originator or the community - possibly confirmation of
     the effectiveness of a proposed solution.

p - patched
A patch has been committed, but some issues (MFC and / or
     confirmation from originator) are still open.

r - repocopy
The resolution of the problem report is dependent on
     a repocopy operation within the CVS repository which
     is awaiting completion.

s - suspended
The problem is not being worked on, due to lack of information
     or resources.  This is a prime candidate
     for somebody who is looking for a project to do.
     If the problem cannot be solved at all,
     it will be closed, rather than suspended.

c - closed
A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated,
     documented, and tested -- or when fixing the problem is abandoned.
Critical problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
f ports/117270            [UPDATE] net/asterisk-addons to 1.4.4
o ports/120230            Fix remote vulnerabilities of multimedia/mplayer and m

2 problems total.

Serious problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
o ports/106369            vpnd caused kernel panic with ppp mode
o ports/106372            vpnd can't run with slip mode
f ports/108077            www/linux-flashplugin9 crashes linux-firefox
f ports/108413            net/vnc does not works.
f ports/112921            x11-wm/Beryl not loading focus and keybinding settings
f ports/113144            print/ghostscript-gnu dumps core with several output d
f ports/115818            Executable clash between databases/grass and ruby gems
f ports/116378            xorg 7.3 on -stable breaks math/scilab
f ports/116385            net/vnc using vnc.so crashes Xorg 7.3 when remote comp
f ports/116586            net/isc-dhcp3-server does not work when compiled with 
f ports/116777            The math/scilab port fails in demos->signal->bode.
f ports/116778            security/nmap ping-scan misses some hosts
f ports/116949            security/vpnc: Some Cisco Concentrators refuse Connect
o ports/117025            multimedia/pwcbsd: Pwcbsd-1.4.0 + New USBStack not wor
f ports/117128            security/ipsec-tools racoon.sh fails with /var on mfs
f ports/117196            Port net/asterisk-addons 1.4.2 fails to compile
f ports/118173            net/gatekeeper port doesn't honor LOCALBASE setting
o ports/118877            audio/streamripper does not detect song title from str
f ports/118966            Configure cannot find path_dps.m4 during mail/mutt-dev
f ports/119546            net/nss_ldap makes /usr/bin/ssh dump core in getpwuid(
o ports/119789            New port: accessibility/yasr A console screen reader.
o ports/119790            New port: accessibility/eflite A speech server for Fes
f ports/119937            fix for multimedia/handbrake in amd64

23 problems total.

Non-critical problems

S Tracker      Resp.      Description
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
s ports/93726             [NEW PORT] deskutils/kxdocker and plugins: a Mac OSX-l
o ports/102544            ltmdm driver (comms/ltmdm) crashes system whene line r
o ports/107354            net/icmpinfo: icmpinfo -vvv does not recocnize any ICM
f ports/107937            jailed net/isc-dhcp3-server wouldn't run with an immut
o ports/110144            New port: math/Matlab7
f ports/111456            [UPDATE] finance/pfpro updated distinfo
f ports/112887            net/nxserver 1.4.0_1 fails to compile after upgrading 
f ports/113423            Update for ports net/freenx to version 0.6.0
f ports/114127            net/vnc - vnc.so installed to bad location
f ports/114825            pam module security/pam_abl not working
s ports/115216            ADA devel/florist exit_process program doesn't compile
s ports/115217            Ada devel/florist socket program doesn't compile due t
f ports/115304            multimedia/gpac-mp4box cannot import files larger than
o ports/115308            multimedia/jahshaka fails to open GUI - ends with "pre
f ports/115336            port multimedia/avifile on FreeBSD 7.0 not BROKEN with
f ports/115627            www/Lynx (-ssl) does not correctly test for OpenSSL
f ports/115722            New port:x11/tastymenu A K-Menu replacement for KDE 3.
f ports/116037            multimedia/dvd-slideshow has been updated from 0.7.5 t
f ports/116058            Update: x11-themes/gtk-qt-engine to version 0.8
f ports/116120            [patch] x11-toolkits/gtkdatabox2: update to 0.7.0.1
f ports/116142            devel/cvsweb3 coloured side-by-side stopped working wh
f ports/116226            x11-wm/compiz - emerald and compiz-fusion and scim are
f ports/116323            net-im/jabber-users-agent bugs
f ports/116333            math/isabelle fails to build with SML/NJ; requires bas
o ports/116485            games/vultures-eye gets a permission denied after typi
f ports/116567            [PATCH] net/vnc: patch x0vncserver to not give the sel
o ports/116683            [NEW PORT] audio/kirocker: KDE Kicker applet for Amaro
f ports/116783            databases/db46 can not be built
o ports/116817            New port: devel/libreadline-java a JNI-wrapper around 
o ports/116829            New port: net/isc-dhcp31-(client|devel|relay|server)
f ports/116974            net-p2p/azureus fails to operate correctly if IPV6 sup
f ports/117053            [patch] www/youtube_dl  Add FLV2MPEG4 option
o ports/117078            [PATCH]: www/* COMMENT, BROKEN, RESTRICTED, NO_PACKAGE
f ports/117140            [PATCH] mail/nmh: add an option for Cyrus SASL2
f ports/117173            graphics/opencv does not compile if ffmpeg option is c
o ports/117236            New port: x11/xcb-util A module with libxcb/libX11 ext
o ports/117276            New port: security/sqlninja a Sql Server penetration t
f ports/117288            [PATCH] x11-wm/compiz: Add in KDE support, clean up pk
o ports/117290            New port: archivers/unrar-iconv Extract, view & test R
f ports/117298            port (/usr/ports/russian/xneur) update needed
o ports/117299            [NEW PORTS] www/webobjects(+) Apple WebObjects ports b
o ports/117312            New port: x11-fonts/ttf-bengali-fonts - Free TrueType 
o ports/117324 ports      devel/sourcenav can't build
o ports/117327            devel/devhelp doesn't build with seamonkey
f ports/117431            Update port: graphics/ipe Version 6.0pre28 of Ipe that
o ports/117475            [maintainer update] updated net/asterisk-app-notify th
o ports/117480            New Port: devel/dev86 -- 8086 Development Tools
f ports/117518            [PATCH] misc/ipbt - fix BROKEN size mismatch in distin
o ports/117521            [new port] net/asterisk-res-bonjour Bonjour (Zeroconf)
o ports/117544            [NEW PORT] audio/gnormalize, a Gtk2 frontend to normal
o ports/117703            New port: devel/asdlgen generate serializers for C,C++
f ports/117900            x11-wm/pekwm ports needs to be updated
o ports/117945            New port: sysutils/metamorphose-1.1 Metamorphose flexi
o ports/117957            security/swatch can't stop (doesn't match pid with pro
o ports/118033            [new port] devel/cvs-devel 1.12.13_8
o ports/118074            net-im/jarl  Runtime error: unknown (tk) option "state
f ports/118092            Installing mail/dbmail breaks installation of mail/mai
o ports/118103            New port: databases/couchdb A document database server
f ports/118105            mail/spamd - spamd-setup with multiple files in spamd-
o ports/118112            [PATCH] sysutils/fusefs-kmod: use SRC_BASE
f ports/118213            games/HeroesOfMightAndMagic - heroesOfMightAndMagic's 
o ports/118229            New port: security/fwknop fwknop,"FireWall KNock OPera
f ports/118232            A note on multimedia/nuppelvideo + multimedia/exportvi
f ports/118293            net/vnc Xvnc won't run without fonts.alias installed
f ports/118311            misc/hello: [PATCH]: 2.1.1_2 -> 2.3, install-info clea
f ports/118314            x11-wm/compiz-fusion-plugins-extra doesn't build
o ports/118331            [NEW PORT] x11-fonts/indic-ttf
o ports/118339            port net/quagga needs --enable-tcp-zebra option
f ports/118358            math/R update from 2.6.0 to 2.6.1 version
o ports/118368            New port: net/asterisk-agx AGX Extra Addons (including
o ports/118386            New port: graphics/hugin-devel A GUI for Panorama Tool
o ports/118438            New port: biology/njplot Phylogenetic tree drawing pro
f ports/118444            [patch] port update devel/libical
f ports/118456            [Patch] x11/roxterm doesn't match URLs properly
o ports/118460            New port: biology/muscle multiple alignment software
f ports/118482            sysutils/desktopbsd-tools dbsd-pkgmgr doesn't recogniz
o ports/118529            New port: devel/luajava
o ports/118548            New port: biology/consed viewing and editing workbench
o ports/118556            New port: math/rapid Robust and Accurate Polygon Inter
f ports/118570            www/linux-flashplugin9 - v9.0r48 doesn't play youtube 
s ports/118663            [update] net-mgmt/nrpe2 - update to 2.10
o ports/118688            New port: x11-wm/fvwm-crystal, powerful desktop enviro
o ports/118702            [patch] audio/musicpd: missing option for shoutcast/ic
f ports/118707            [patch]audio/musicpd shout support
o ports/118906            [NEW PORT] graphics/2d-rewriter: Fractals generator ba
o ports/118923            Wrong pidfile in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dcc-start port ma
f ports/118926            mail/spamd: issues with deletion and syncing from spam
f ports/118960            cannot apply patches for port russian/xmms
f ports/118992            multimedia/xmms - WITH_ENCODING_PATCH was deleted from
o ports/119008            [NEW PORT] security/easypg: EasyPG is yet another GnuP
f ports/119015            games/alephone - TotalTextureEnhancementv61.zip unfetc
o ports/119044            New port: audio/festlex-czech,audio/festvox-czech Czec
f ports/119057            sysutils/fusefs-wdfs update to upstream wdfs-1.4.2
f ports/119113            [Patch] japanese/rogue_s: Don't use sgtty.
f ports/119114            [Patch] japanese/edict: use termios instead of sgtty
o ports/119183            [NEW PORT] net/freeradius-client: FreeRADIUS Client li
o ports/119224            New port: net/openamq OpenAMQ is a complete AMQP messa
o ports/119236            New port: www/squidclamav, interface to perform antivi
f ports/119319            www/tomcat55 rc.d script fails to stop tomcat
f ports/119367            [PATCH] deskutils/xcalendar: add Japanese holidays in 
f ports/119373            Update port: databases/grass to 6.2.3
o ports/119388            ports that require gcc 34 instead of gcc42
f ports/119392            [patch] update graphics/gdal to 1.5.0
o ports/119425            New port: korean/ko.TeX Korean TeX macro and utilities
o ports/119427            New port: korean/ko.TeX-fonts-extra Korean TeX extra f
o ports/119428            New port: korean/ko.TeX-fonts-base Korean TeX base fon
f ports/119454            mail/dcc-dccd port deletes dcc_conf on update
f ports/119457            update textproc/qstardict
f ports/119514            [PATCH] emulators/libspectrum: update to 0.4.0
o ports/119517            [PATCH] emulators/fuse: update to 0.9.0, take maintain
f ports/119556            [PATCH] textproc/xerces-c2: Update to 2.8.0
o ports/119593            [patch] multimedia/mplayer: allow building with distcc
f ports/119603            upgrade net/whois from 4.7.22 to 4.7.24
o ports/119640            [NEW PORT] devel/sml_tk: Typed and abstract Standard M
f ports/119644            FreeBSD Port: archivers/xarchive failing to open files
o ports/119646            New Port: mail/prepflog Sanitises maillog output for p
f ports/119647            multimedia/libdvdcss has errors decoding keys
o ports/119672            New port: multimedia/kissdx
o ports/119731            [UPDATE] Update sysutils/ataidle to version 2.2
f ports/119745            www/linux-flashplugin7 - flashplayer does not work wit
o ports/119756            New port: databases/sqldeveloper Graphical tool for da
f ports/119829            games/pokerth: update to version 0.6
f ports/119843            security/xca 0.6.3 has gross compilation errors after 
f ports/119860            archivers/par2cmdline gives "Main packet not found" - 
o ports/119886            [NEW PORT] www/famp: Metaport of FreeBSD, Apache2, MyS
o ports/119904            rearrange x11-toolkits/qwt* ports
o ports/119908            [maintainer] multimedia/handbrake
o ports/119921            [Maintainer-update] net-mgmt/torrus upgrade to version
o ports/119926            [UPDATE] www/oscommerce updated to version 2.2rc2
o ports/119928            [MAINTAINER] x11-wm/xmonad: [SUMMARIZE CHANGES]
o ports/119939            New Port: mail/vchkuser vchkuser is a helper program s
o ports/119951            x11-toolkits/xscoop - Ports update: update master site
o ports/119980            [MAINTAINER] news/leafnode: update to new version
o ports/119991            New Port: mail/archiveopteryx - Archiveopteryx 2.05
f ports/120022            [UPDATE] graphics/phplot - Updated to 5.0.5
f ports/120023            [UPDATE] devel/p5-Bundle-Perl6
f ports/120028            [UPDATE] sysutils/symon
o ports/120065            [NEW PORT] multimedia/smilutils: A collection of utili
o ports/120070            [NEW PORT] www/p5-HTML-Macro: Process HTML templates w
o ports/120087            [UPDATE] net/asterisk-addons to 1.4.5
f ports/120107            [UPDATE] www/hiawatha
o ports/120108            [UPDATE] dns/p5-Net-LibIDN
o ports/120120            net-p2p/verlihub port verision update
f ports/120126            [Update] audio/musicpd to 0.13.1
o ports/120129            New port: science/dtiquery  DTI Visualization Software
f ports/120134            net-mgmt/ourmon port needs to go away - out of date
f ports/120136            [UPDATE] dns/dnrd
f ports/120137            [UPDATE/repocopy] devel/hc12mem to devel/hcs12mem
o ports/120141            upgrade of devel/sfslite to 1.2.3
o ports/120142            sysutils/wmcube-gdk does not work on CURRENT
o ports/120175            New port: www/bestbrowser Script to find and run a WEB
o ports/120176            Maintainer update: math/lensnns  Minor revision
o ports/120179            New port: emulators/libdsk: Lib/tools to access disks 
o ports/120181            weird tty permissions with x11/rxvt
o ports/120184            New port: emulators/cpmtools27: Tools to access CP/M d
o ports/120189            New port: emulators/xcpc: A portable Amstrad CPC 464/6
o ports/120201            Update port: japanese/p5-Mail-SpamAssassin to 3.2.4
o ports/120234            [MAINTAINER] x11-wm/xmonad: update to 0.6
o ports/120235            [NEW PORT] x11-wm/xmonad-contrib: Third party tiling a
o ports/120238            New port: net-mgmt/bsnmp-ucd
o ports/120245            [MAINTAINER] korean/libhangul : update to 0.0.7

161 problems total.


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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:19:45 +0100
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> I am using postfix-current-2.5.20080116,4 but I have problems with
> this version. The postfix freezes under high load (about 25 000
> messages in a queue) and must be restarter to work again. I see
> freezes almost every day, so I add restart in to the crontab.

That is not the final release of Postfix as I understand it. The final
2.5 production release has been issues; however, it is not in the ports
tree yet.

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Hello, do you plan to port amsn 0.97 to FreeBSD sooner or later?


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* Beech Rintoul (beech@freebsd.org) wrote:
> > I'm trying to port a linux app, and it says:
> >
> > % ./app
> > ./app: /lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4'
> > not found (required by ./app)
> >
> > Seems like linux_base-fc4 is too old for this application, as it
> > requires glibc 2.4. Is there a way to indicate in a port that newer
> > linux_base is needed?
> 
> From bsd.port.mk:
> 
> # USE_LINUX		- Set to yes to say the port needs the default linux base
>                                   port.
> #				  Set to value <X>, if the port needs emulators/linux_base-<X>.
> #				  If set to "7", a dependency is registered to
> 		                  emulators/linux_base.
> #				  Implies appropriate settings for STRIP and STRIP_CMD.
Yes, but this info seems a bit outdated for me.
First, there's no linux_base-7. Besides fc4 there's fc6 and f7, what
should I use? Also, what'll happen if user has linux_base-fc4
installed already? Seems to me that it would be better to check for
linux glibc >=2.4 and ask user to reinstall newer linux_base if it's not
found.
The problem is there are no examples for this, everyone just use
LINUX_BASE=yes.

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Quoting Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru> (from Mon, 4 Feb 2008 =20
17:52:13 +0300):

> * Beech Rintoul (beech@freebsd.org) wrote:
>> > I'm trying to port a linux app, and it says:
>> >
>> > % ./app
>> > ./app: /lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4'
>> > not found (required by ./app)
>> >
>> > Seems like linux_base-fc4 is too old for this application, as it
>> > requires glibc 2.4. Is there a way to indicate in a port that newer
>> > linux_base is needed?
>>
>> From bsd.port.mk:
>>
>> # USE_LINUX=09=09- Set to yes to say the port needs the default linux bas=
e
>>                                   port.
>> #=09=09=09=09  Set to value <X>, if the port needs emulators/linux_base-<=
X>.
>> #=09=09=09=09  If set to "7", a dependency is registered to
>> =09=09                  emulators/linux_base.
>> #=09=09=09=09  Implies appropriate settings for STRIP and STRIP_CMD.
> Yes, but this info seems a bit outdated for me.
> First, there's no linux_base-7. Besides fc4 there's fc6 and f7, what

It takes a full exp-build cycle to get a change in bsd.port.mk into =20
the tree. Nobody invested the hassle so far to change this comment. As =20
it is just an example, and not a "there has to be a linux_base-7 =20
port"-comment, there's no real pressure to change it to something else.

> should I use? Also, what'll happen if user has linux_base-fc4
> installed already? Seems to me that it would be better to check for

If any other linux_base is installed, the install will fail.

> linux glibc >=3D2.4 and ask user to reinstall newer linux_base if it's not
> found.
> The problem is there are no examples for this, everyone just use
> LINUX_BASE=3Dyes.

To use any newer linux base port, you need to switch to linux 2.6 =20
emulation, as the depend on features of 2.6. This 2.6 emulation is =20
currently
  - only available in 7.0 and 8-current (default =3D 2.4)
  - not stable yet (known bugs)
  - lacks some syscalls which are necesary for full 2.6.16 emulation

As long as we don't have 2.6 emulation in a good shape, we can not =20
switch to it, and as such, we can not switch to a more recent linux =20
base port. So any port port which _really_ depends upon a newer linux =20
base port has to use USE_LINUX=3Dfc6 or USE_LINUX=3Df7.

Which one you take is up to you, but the most recent one is probably =20
the best thing to do in this case. If you additionally want to check =20
for glibc>=3D2.4, it's up to you too, but any message which suggest to =20
update to a non-default linux base (default =3D fc4) should ("should" as =20
in "if you don't do it, you will screw users") contain the information =20
that this needs to switch the kernel to 2.6.16 emulation, and that =20
this will only work on 7.0 or later, and that at least in 7.0 there =20
are known problems with the non-default linux emulation. We are also =20
low on people with enough time to debug and fix problems in the 2.6 =20
emulation, so anybody with problems should expect that he has to debug =20
and fix the real cause of the problem himself. On emulation@ we are =20
helpful as far as our time allows, but the time is low ATM.

Bye,
Alexander.

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On Monday 04 February 2008, Dmitry Marakasov said:
> * Beech Rintoul (beech@freebsd.org) wrote:
> > > I'm trying to port a linux app, and it says:
> > >
> > > % ./app
> > > ./app: /lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version
> > > `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./app)
> > >
> > > Seems like linux_base-fc4 is too old for this application, as
> > > it requires glibc 2.4. Is there a way to indicate in a port
> > > that newer linux_base is needed?
> >
> > From bsd.port.mk:
> >
> > # USE_LINUX		- Set to yes to say the port needs the default linux
> > base port.
> > #				  Set to value <X>, if the port needs
> > emulators/linux_base-<X>. #				  If set to "7", a dependency is
> > registered to
> > 		                  emulators/linux_base.
> > #				  Implies appropriate settings for STRIP and STRIP_CMD.
>
> Yes, but this info seems a bit outdated for me.
> First, there's no linux_base-7. Besides fc4 there's fc6 and f7,
> what should I use? 
fc6, f7

> Also, what'll happen if user has linux_base-fc4 
> installed already? Seems to me that it would be better to check for 
> linux glibc >=2.4 and ask user to reinstall newer linux_base if
> it's not found.
> The problem is there are no examples for this, everyone just use
> LINUX_BASE=yes.

You can do that as well, however I suggest reading through the linux 
options in bsd.port.mk.

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I have sa-spamd running and I just installed obspamd or pfspamd what  
ever it should be called and the spamd log file seems taken over by  
spamasassin.  Are there any other conflicts or changes that should be  
made to use both.

Thanks,

ed


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On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 02:13:16PM -0600, eculp wrote:
> I have sa-spamd running and I just installed obspamd or pfspamd what ever 
> it should be called and the spamd log file seems taken over by spamasassin. 
>  Are there any other conflicts or changes that should be made to use both.

Funny, since I indirectly touched on this problem many moons ago when
writing a document on issues we encountered when attempting to migrate
from postgrey to OpenBSD spamd.  See section "Issues with OpenBSD spamd
on FreeBSD":

http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/openbsd-spamd.txt

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On Feb 03, 2008, at 01:10 , Lev Serebryakov wrote:

> Hello, freebsd-ports.
>
>  I've revamped `devel/subversion*' ports (and add
> `devel/subversion-java') to support building all four bindings (Perl,
> python, ruby, javahl) with installed libraries. So, all binding ports
> really build bindings and depends on `devel/subversion'.

Good work!

However (there's always a however :) - would it be possible to further  
extend this to subversion-client and subversion-server (the latter  
having all the web stuff, and the former just having the basic clients).

As things stand right now, when rolling out localized package sets for  
large numbers of machines, you have to go through all kinds of hoops  
in order to not have apache (or whatever) on every machine that needs  
subversion.

Compare this, for example, with postgresql*-{client,server}, mysql*- 
{client,server}, openldap*-{client,server}, where it's only necessary  
to have the server portions on those boxes that, well, run the  
servers, with *-client being installed everywhere.

-aDe


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Quoting Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>:

> On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 02:13:16PM -0600, eculp wrote:
>> I have sa-spamd running and I just installed obspamd or pfspamd what ever
>> it should be called and the spamd log file seems taken over by spamasassi=
n.
>>  Are there any other conflicts or changes that should be made to use both=
.
>
> Funny, since I indirectly touched on this problem many moons ago when
> writing a document on issues we encountered when attempting to migrate
> from postgrey to OpenBSD spamd.  See section "Issues with OpenBSD spamd
> on FreeBSD":

http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/openbsd-spamd.txt

Jeremy,

Your link should be included everywhere.  This is a logical,[all too =20
uncommon in today's world] common sense approach that answered all the =20
additional questions that I had not even asked yet because I was first =20
doing tests with the recommended (published) information yet without =20
success.  Within 10 minutes after opening your link, I have it =20
running, hopefully as I expect, at least based on the "multiple input" =20
spamd log file ;) Now only time will tell but at least debugging my =20
configuration will now be easy.
>
> http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/openbsd-spamd.txt
>
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Quoting Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>:

> On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 02:13:16PM -0600, eculp wrote:
>> I have sa-spamd running and I just installed obspamd or pfspamd what ever
>> it should be called and the spamd log file seems taken over by spamasassin.
>>  Are there any other conflicts or changes that should be made to use both.
>
> Funny, since I indirectly touched on this problem many moons ago when
> writing a document on issues we encountered when attempting to migrate
> from postgrey to OpenBSD spamd.  See section "Issues with OpenBSD spamd
> on FreeBSD":
>
> http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/openbsd-spamd.txt

Jeremy,

Sorry, but I have one other question.  Are you still using obspamd on  
the machines you set up when you wrote the above link?  Your reasons  
on why or why not would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again for the information,

ed


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Synopsis: Update port sysutils/psgconf

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Give my approval for this update to be commited.


http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=120268

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Hello, Ade.
You wrote 5 =F4=E5=E2=F0=E0=EB=FF 2008 =E3., 1:59:48:


> However (there's always a however :) - would it be possible to further
> extend this to subversion-client and subversion-server (the latter =20
> having all the web stuff, and the former just having the basic clients).
  There is one problem: they (client and mod_dav_svn) use SAME
subversion libraies  both. Split into lib/cli/srv? Ok. Other problem
raises here: libapr. Server binaries -- mod_dav_svn -- should use
COMMON libraries with apache's libapr, so subversion libraries MUST be
linked with libapr from apache2/apache22 port/package (not with libapr
from `devel/apr'). So, CLIENT will depends on APACHE in such case (via
libraries). No profit at all :(((

> As things stand right now, when rolling out localized package sets for
> large numbers of machines, you have to go through all kinds of hoops =20
> in order to not have apache (or whatever) on every machine that needs
> subversion.
  You can not have simple three packages "subversion-core",
"subversion-client" and "subversion-dav-server" where ONLY
"subversion-dav-server" depends on apache. "subversion-core" must
depends on "apache" too, if you want to have "subversion-dav-server"...

("subversion-svn-server" is one small binary, about 65Kb, without any
additional dependenies, and can be packaged with
client without problems, IMHO).

--=20
// Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org>


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On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 09:54:40AM -0600, eculp wrote:
> Quoting Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>:
>> http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/openbsd-spamd.txt
>
> Sorry, but I have one other question.  Are you still using obspamd on the 
> machines you set up when you wrote the above link?  Your reasons on why or 
> why not would be greatly appreciated.

No, we're not.  The main reason we reverted back to postgrey was because
OpenBSD spamd cannot add an SMTP header to mails detailing how long the
mail was delayed for.  postgrey, since it's a postfix policy service,
adds an X-Greylist header to mails allowing users to see just how long
the greylisting delay was.  This feature has come in handy for tracking
down greylisting problems.  An example header:

  X-Greylist: delayed 360 seconds by postgrey-1.30 at mx01.sc1.parodius.com; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:02:35 PST

Here's an example of one which I should probably track down in our SMTP
logs to see if the delay was caused by something other than redelivery
time on the remote SMTP server:

  X-Greylist: delayed 16000 seconds by postgrey-1.30 at mx01.sc1.parodius.com; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:33:09 PST

I would love to try OpenBSD spamd again, but it's not a policy service
service like postgrey is -- OpenBSD spamd has absolutely no way of
inserting any data into delivered mail, because it's implemented with
pf(4) and is not a policy service.

It's quite possible to make a piece of software that would act as a
policy service for postfix which could get details of greylisted mails
and when they were actually delivered by OpenBSD spamd.  Just thinking
about it makes me consider writing it.  :-)  Would be quite useful...

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Synopsis: Update port sysutils/psgconf

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http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=120268

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On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 09:51:46AM -0600, eculp wrote:
> Your link should be included everywhere.  This is a logical,[all too 
> uncommon in today's world] common sense approach that answered all the 
> additional questions that I had not even asked yet because I was first 
> doing tests with the recommended (published) information yet without 
> success.  Within 10 minutes after opening your link, I have it running, 
> hopefully as I expect, at least based on the "multiple input" spamd log 
> file ;) Now only time will tell but at least debugging my configuration 
> will now be easy.

Glad something I wrote up long ago came in handy!  All the questions in
the document were ones I had, and the answers I had to figure out for
myself.  It makes me feel good knowing I'm not the only one who was
confused by the existing documentation!  :-)

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Quoting Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>:

> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 09:54:40AM -0600, eculp wrote:
>> Quoting Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org>:
>>> http://jdc.parodius.com/freebsd/openbsd-spamd.txt
>>
>> Sorry, but I have one other question.  Are you still using obspamd on the
>> machines you set up when you wrote the above link?  Your reasons on why o=
r
>> why not would be greatly appreciated.
>
> No, we're not.  The main reason we reverted back to postgrey was because
> OpenBSD spamd cannot add an SMTP header to mails detailing how long the
> mail was delayed for.  postgrey, since it's a postfix policy service,
> adds an X-Greylist header to mails allowing users to see just how long
> the greylisting delay was.  This feature has come in handy for tracking
> down greylisting problems.  An example header:
>
>   X-Greylist: delayed 360 seconds by postgrey-1.30 at =20
> mx01.sc1.parodius.com; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:02:35 PST
>
> Here's an example of one which I should probably track down in our SMTP
> logs to see if the delay was caused by something other than redelivery
> time on the remote SMTP server:
>
>   X-Greylist: delayed 16000 seconds by postgrey-1.30 at =20
> mx01.sc1.parodius.com; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:33:09 PST
>
> I would love to try OpenBSD spamd again, but it's not a policy service
> service like postgrey is -- OpenBSD spamd has absolutely no way of
> inserting any data into delivered mail, because it's implemented with
> pf(4) and is not a policy service.
>
> It's quite possible to make a piece of software that would act as a
> policy service for postfix which could get details of greylisted mails
> and when they were actually delivered by OpenBSD spamd.  Just thinking
> about it makes me consider writing it.  :-)  Would be quite useful...

It would be very nice to have and useful information.  Especially now =20
that I am impatiently watching my tables grow and waiting for emails =20
that I have seeded from many other sources, I am far from comfortable =20
with pfspamd but seeing that I have received almost no spam since I =20
started the test, is currently compensating.  I would give postgray a =20
try but don't have a server running postfix right now and don't have a =20
lot of time and for now am going to set up pfspamd on all unless I =20
find some major issue.

Thanks again for all the useful information.

ed
>
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Hi,

I'm unable to install this port because it requires 
tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip,
which seems to be no longer available and I can't seem to work around it.

Thanks,

Joseph

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Hello,

I'm unable to install this port because it seems to require 
tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip,
which doesn't seem to be available any longer.

Thanks,

Joseph

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On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:08:36PM -0600, Joseph Lancaster wrote:
> I'm unable to install this port because it seems to require 
> tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip,
> which doesn't seem to be available any longer.

Update your ports collection, tzupdater-1.3.3-2007k.zip is current.

But then, you will run in other problems about unavailability of
the JDK sources. Google for '"Index of: " tzupdater-1.3.3-2007k.zip'

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Hi,
      I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2.
*The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ?

Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ?   I would prefer a way by
which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling.

Thanks,
Navneet

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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:41:13AM +0530, navneet Upadhyay wrote:
>       I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2.
> *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ?
> 
> Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ?   I would prefer a way by
> which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling.

First of all, do not cross-post to multiple mailing lists.  This is
considered rude/bad practise.

Second -- yes, you should definitely uninstall 1.1 before installing
1.2.  The ports/package management system should not let you install
both at the same time.  If uninstalling said package will impact service
in some way, you need to take steps to mitigate impact before doing the
uninstall.  That's outside of the scope of a package management system.

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Hello, Joseph.
You wrote 6 ??????? 2008 ?., 7:24:10:

> I'm unable to install this port because it requires
> tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip,
> which seems to be no longer available and I can't seem to work around it.
  It is problem of Java port, which it want use (diablo-jdk?), not subversion
port...


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On Feb 6, 2008 11:41 AM, navneet Upadhyay <navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>       I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2.
> *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ?
>
> Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ?   I would prefer a way by
> which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling.
>

You may try portupgrade which can handle upgrades for you.

more info on: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html


regards,
shantanoo

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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 02:10:19PM +0530, ??????????????? (Shantanoo) wrote:
> On Feb 6, 2008 11:41 AM, navneet Upadhyay <navneet.upadhyay@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >       I have two binary packages of an application of version 1.1 and 1.2.
> > *The 1.1 is already installed, how can i upgrade it to 1.2* ?
> >
> > Do i have to uninstall 1.1 and then install 1.2 ?   I would prefer a way by
> > which i can upgrade an wxisting package without uninstalling.
> >
> 
> You may try portupgrade which can handle upgrades for you.
> more info on: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/28/FreeBSD_Basics.html

Sigh... why do people always recommend portupgrade to users without
telling them of the caveats?  I grow tired of this.  So let's tell
Navneet exactly what he's getting into, shall we?

portupgrade:
  - Written in Ruby, which not many UNIX admins are familiar with
    (compared to, say, perl).  If portupgrade has a bug, you will need
    to speak Ruby.
  - Ruby is not included in the base system; you have to install it
    from ports (read: just another thing to have to maintain...)

ports base system:
  - C-based, and includes all of the pkg_* utilities.  Nearly every
    FreeBSD user/administrator is familiar with these tools.
  - gcc comes with the base system.

portupgrade:
  - Maintains its own database of ports installed, dependencies, and
    so on -- COMPLETELY separate from that of the ports base system.
  - Said database must be kept in sync with ports base system
    dependencies and other whatnots; and if they go out of sync (which
    happens regularly as can be confirmed by the never-ending supply of
    posts to freebsd-ports@ about portupgrade problems), you get to
    read incredibly cryptic error messages from Ruby.
  - Said database is Berkeley DB-based, which means you have to install
    Oracle/Sleepycat BDB from ports.  (I believe you can pick DB1.x
    which comes with libc, but it's not recommended due to bugs).

ports base system:
  - Uses flat text files in /var/db/pkg and /var/db/ports.

The reason portupgrade uses its own database is supposedly due to the
shortcomings/oversights of the existing ports system, and that's a
legitimate point..  But my opinion is that these shortcomings/oversights
should be addressed in the ports system and not via some third-party
tool which adds unnecessary complexities and more headaches.

Thus, I would suggest people go with the KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)
method, and consider using tools which are written in languages which
come with the base system (e.g. C or sh) -- but even more importantly,
use and rely solely on the ports base system.

One such tool is portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster), maintained by Doug
Barton.  It's actively maintained and written in sh.  Its author is
quite active with freebsd-ports, and is quick to respond to both bug
reports and feature requests.

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while i usually did this think manually i would try portmaster next time i 
will need an upgrade. and - thanks to your explanation - i will avoid 
portupgrade.

thank you.

>
> One such tool is portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster), maintained by Doug
> Barton.  It's actively maintained and written in sh.  Its author is
> quite active with freebsd-ports, and is quick to respond to both bug
> reports and feature requests.
>
> -- 
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Since i am not using the ports , i have complied my product and have created
package using pkg_create on Machine B(build)and added it using pkg_add on
machine A .
so after these steps i have my 1.0 installed on Machine A.

Now i have made some changes in my product and created a package on Machine
B using pkg_create, and it is my 1.1 version.

I want to install this(1.1) version on machine A(which is having 1.0 already
installed) .

 one way is to remove 1.0 and install 1.1 on machine A, but i cannot afford
to do so. IS there any way to upgrade it to 1.1 without uninstalling?
pkg_update command is not present.

 I hope i am clear with what i want.

Help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Navneet


On 2/6/08, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>
> while i usually did this think manually i would try portmaster next time i
> will need an upgrade. and - thanks to your explanation - i will avoid
> portupgrade.
>
> thank you.
>
> >
> > One such tool is portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster), maintained by Doug
> > Barton.  It's actively maintained and written in sh.  Its author is
> > quite active with freebsd-ports, and is quick to respond to both bug
> > reports and feature requests.
> >
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:09:47PM +0530, navneet Upadhyay wrote:
> Since i am not using the ports , i have complied my product and have created
> package using pkg_create on Machine B(build)and added it using pkg_add on
> machine A .
> so after these steps i have my 1.0 installed on Machine A.
> 
> Now i have made some changes in my product and created a package on Machine
> B using pkg_create, and it is my 1.1 version.
> 
> I want to install this(1.1) version on machine A(which is having 1.0 already
> installed) .
> 
>  one way is to remove 1.0 and install 1.1 on machine A, but i cannot afford
> to do so. IS there any way to upgrade it to 1.1 without uninstalling?
> pkg_update command is not present.
> 
>  I hope i am clear with what i want.

Yes, what you want is clear; I understand you.  And the straightforward
answer to your question is no, it's not possible.

The way you upgrade a port/package on a FreeBSD machine is that you
pkg_delete (deinstall) the old one before pkg_add'ing (installing) the
new one.  All package management systems on every platform I've used
(Solaris, Linux, and FreeBSD) behave this way.

It would help if you could explain why you cannot afford to pkg_delete
your 1.0 package before installing 1.1.

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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

>Here's an example of one which I should probably track down in our SMTP
>logs to see if the delay was caused by something other than redelivery
>time on the remote SMTP server:
>
>  X-Greylist: delayed 16000 seconds by postgrey-1.30 at mx01.sc1.parodius.com; Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:33:09 PST
>  
>
Obviously, I can't tell you if this particular entry has legitimate 
reasons or not.  However, I think you mentioned in an earlier message 
that you didn't believe that a delay of the magnitude of 19 hours ought 
to be possible.   From a competent mail service, one would hope not, but 
some months ago I found myself completely unable to send messages to 
most FreeBSD mailing lists and debugged this with sterling help from 
postmaster@.

My email provider could wait *days* before retrying an email which was 
greylisted.  It took four days for a message to arrive in test@ and the 
mail logs clearly showed them failing to retry at any kind of acceptable 
interval.

For the record, this was my broadband provider blueyonder.co.uk - now 
owned by Virgin - who were *no help whatsoever*.  Luckily, I have kept 
up a dial-in provider as well and always used my email address from 
them; they provide an authenticated SMTP gateway, so I'm not 
disenfranchised any longer :-)  (They've recently been taken over by 
Tiscali, so I hope that their previous standard of service keeps up).

Just a data point for the archives.  Great obspamd write-up too!

--Alex


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> Now i have made some changes in my product and created a package on Machine
> B using pkg_create, and it is my 1.1 version.
>
> I want to install this(1.1) version on machine A(which is having 1.0 already
> installed) .
>
> one way is to remove 1.0 and install 1.1 on machine A, but i cannot afford
> to do so. IS there any way to upgrade it to 1.1 without uninstalling?
> pkg_update command is not present.

there is no way with pkg_tools to do that


>
> I hope i am clear with what i want.
>
> Help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Navneet
>
>
> On 2/6/08, Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>>
>> while i usually did this think manually i would try portmaster next time i
>> will need an upgrade. and - thanks to your explanation - i will avoid
>> portupgrade.
>>
>> thank you.
>>
>>>
>>> One such tool is portmaster (ports-mgmt/portmaster), maintained by Doug
>>> Barton.  It's actively maintained and written in sh.  Its author is
>>> quite active with freebsd-ports, and is quick to respond to both bug
>>> reports and feature requests.
>>>
>>> --
>>> | Jeremy Chadwick                                    jdc at parodius.com|
>>> | Parodius Networking                           http://www.parodius.com/|
>>> | UNIX Systems Administrator                      Mountain View, CA, USA
>> |
>>> | Making life hard for others since 1977.                  PGP: 4BD6C0CB
>> |
>>>
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>>
>

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On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 01:51:33 -0800
Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Sigh... why do people always recommend portupgrade to users without
> telling them of the caveats?  I grow tired of this.  So let's tell
> Navneet exactly what he's getting into, shall we?

thanks for the info Jeremy, very informative.

For what is worth, i've been using portupgrade for a long time. It works quite well in the vast majority of the situations, though it does seem to get confused with large upgrades with many inter-dependencies -not sure if that is a portupgrade's fault or the ports system.  I don't recall having issues with DBD, ruby messages or others. I also use pkg_* when necessary.

I am not denying what you said, just trying to balance out the description too.

At the end of the day, Navneet, you should try several tools and see what works for you :). 

B
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:14:31PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:08:36PM -0600, Joseph Lancaster wrote:
> > I'm unable to install this port because it seems to require 
> > tzupdater-1_3_0-2007h.zip,
> > which doesn't seem to be available any longer.
> 
> Update your ports collection, tzupdater-1.3.3-2007k.zip is current.
> 
> But then, you will run in other problems about unavailability of
> the JDK sources. Google for '"Index of: " tzupdater-1.3.3-2007k.zip'

I'm not sure what you mean here.  tzupdater 1.3.3 is currently available

http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

as are the JDK sources

http://download.java.net/tiger/archive/tiger_u13/index.html

so what is unavailable?

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On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:39 AM, navneet Upadhyay wrote:

> Since i am not using the ports , i have complied my product and have  
> created
> package using pkg_create on Machine B(build)and added it using  
> pkg_add on
> machine A .
> so after these steps i have my 1.0 installed on Machine A.
>
> Now i have made some changes in my product and created a package on  
> Machine
> B using pkg_create, and it is my 1.1 version.
>
> I want to install this(1.1) version on machine A(which is having 1.0  
> already
> installed) .
>
> one way is to remove 1.0 and install 1.1 on machine A, but i cannot  
> afford
> to do so. IS there any way to upgrade it to 1.1 without uninstalling?
> pkg_update command is not present.
>
> I hope i am clear with what i want.
>
> Help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Navneet


pkg_delete(1) and pkg_add(1) will do the trick if you want to do a  
straight upgrade of the packages. Otherwise, I suggest installing the  
package to another directory for evaluation purposes (see the  
PKG_PREFIX variable).

Everything should work (crosses fingers), pending that the packages  
don't CONFLICT with one another and/or the metadata (/var/db/pkg) is  
stored in 2 different locations (I forget whether or not that is the  
case).

See each respective manpage for more info.

Cheers,
-Garrett

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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 01:51:33AM -0800 I heard the voice of
Jeremy Chadwick, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> So let's tell Navneet exactly what he's getting into, shall we?

OK, but let's do that by telling him what he's getting into, not vague
gestures at overblown half-truths.


>   - Ruby is not included in the base system; you have to install it
>     from ports (read: just another thing to have to maintain...)

My workstation has about 800 ports installed.  A relatively lean
server has 300.  1 more is so deep in the noise, you can't hardly
measure it, much less see it.


> ports base system:
>   - C-based, and includes all of the pkg_* utilities.  Nearly every
>     FreeBSD user/administrator is familiar with these tools.

Can't upgrade things.  Show me how I use pkg_* to upgrade a package
(let's say, gtk), and have all the metadata set right afterward.

Requires either stupid amounts of manual work, or a lot of scripting
(I upgrade perl.  How do I rebuild p5-*?).


> portupgrade:
>   - Maintains its own database of ports installed, dependencies, and
>     so on -- COMPLETELY separate from that of the ports base system.

Which is just a cache of the existing files, and can be blown away at
any time with no consequences other than a minute or two remaking
them.


>   - Said database must be kept in sync with ports base system
>     dependencies and other whatnots; and if they go out of sync

Which it rebuilds when it notices is out of date.  The only time I've
had problems out of it in years of using portupgrade is when I do
something like update BDB (or less often, portupgrade or ruby-bdb).
Whoopie.  Consider the recent case involving sudo and portmaster; when
you use a tool to update a low-level piece of itself, you have to take
some care how you go about it.


>   - Said database is Berkeley DB-based, which means you have to install
>     Oracle/Sleepycat BDB from ports.  (I believe you can pick DB1.x
>     which comes with libc, but it's not recommended due to bugs).

So now we're up to 4 ports to install?  If you can make that my
biggest worry, I'll sent you a ginormous certified check first thing
in the morning.



There are a lot of things to hate in portupgrade, but let's don't pile
handwaving anthills into mountains on top of that.


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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
...
> The way you upgrade a port/package on a FreeBSD machine is that you
> pkg_delete (deinstall) the old one before pkg_add'ing (installing) the
> new one.  All package management systems on every platform I've used
> (Solaris, Linux, and FreeBSD) behave this way.

The dreadful RPM system does not work this way. It leaves the files that
get no update untouched, adds new stuff next to them and then removes
the obsoleted files. rpm -Uvv shows the upgrade behaviour :

    * Run %pre of new package (2)
    * Install new files
    * Run %post of new package (2)
    * Run %preun of old package (1)
    * Delete any old files not overwritten by newer ones
    * Run %postun of old package (1)

> It would help if you could explain why you cannot afford to pkg_delete
> your 1.0 package before installing 1.1.

This is the interesting question ;-)

regards,
   Hans Lambermont

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Do we have a standard for where .ko modules should be installed?

I've found the sysutils/pmap port to be pretty cool - I almost think we
should bring it into the base system.
Anyway, it installs into /boot/kernel (unless MODULES_WITH_WORLD is
defined), which to me is just wrong.  What if I've named mine /boot/foo?
Its perfectly reasonable.  /boot/<KERNEL> is for a kernel build.

Looking around it seems most (all other?) ports install into
/boot/modules.  I really don't like the inconsistency - if I have to
reinstall all my Ports .ko's after installing a new kernel than so be it.
But it should be the case for all - not making it so I have to remember
to do it for only one or two.

Not being sure what the vast majority of Ports maintainers/developers use,
I wanted to check if /boot/modules was our de-facto standard or something
else.

thanks,
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:41:07 -0800
"David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Do we have a standard for where .ko modules should be installed?
> 
> I've found the sysutils/pmap port to be pretty cool - I almost think we
> should bring it into the base system.
> Anyway, it installs into /boot/kernel (unless MODULES_WITH_WORLD is
> defined), which to me is just wrong.  What if I've named mine /boot/foo?
> Its perfectly reasonable.  /boot/<KERNEL> is for a kernel build.
> 
> Looking around it seems most (all other?) ports install into
> /boot/modules.  I really don't like the inconsistency - if I have to
> reinstall all my Ports .ko's after installing a new kernel than so be it.
> But it should be the case for all - not making it so I have to remember
> to do it for only one or two.
> 
> Not being sure what the vast majority of Ports maintainers/developers use,
> I wanted to check if /boot/modules was our de-facto standard or something
> else.
> 

It seems that three ports use %D/modules and ten explicitly use /boot/modules
in pkg-plist. I didn't look at Makefiles or shell scripts.

I personally think that only ports (like nvidia-driver) which need to
be loaded from loader.conf should be in /boot/modules.

---
Gary Jennejohn

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Janos,

Thank you again for adding the development version.
I've noticed 1 thing, when this port and the rancid-2.3.1_3 are
installed, there appears to be an extra / when installing.
Looking at the Makefile for rancid in the work directory, it appears
that there is a "/" after the some of the directory statements.

bindir =3D /usr/local/libexec/rancid/
infodir =3D /usr/local/info/
localstatedir =3D /usr/local/var/rancid/
sysconfdir =3D /usr/local/etc/rancid/

I would think that the standard is not to include the ending "/"
Would that be correct?

Thanks
Aaron

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Folks,

What's happened with the new portupgrade-devel?

I ask to to upgrade php4 and it starts an installation of apache13? I 
have apache13+ipv6 installed so I'm not sure why it wants to install 
apache13?


$ portupgrade -v php4\*
--->  Session started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:11 -0500
[Gathering depends for devel/php4-gettext ......................... done]
[Gathering depends for databases/php4-mysql .... done]
[Gathering depends for textproc/php4-xml ... done]
--->  Fresh installation of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 
19:03:38 -0500
--->  Installing 'apache-1.3.41' from a port (www/apache13)
--->  Build of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:42 -0500

Am I missing something?

thanks,

-lee

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On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 09:41:07AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> Do we have a standard for where .ko modules should be installed?

I would say /boot/modules, but the more important thing is to use
INSTALL_KLD instead of INSTALL_PROGRAM or INSTALL_DATA :-)

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Lee Dilkie wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> What's happened with the new portupgrade-devel?
> 
> I ask to to upgrade php4 and it starts an installation of apache13? I
> have apache13+ipv6 installed so I'm not sure why it wants to install
> apache13?
> 
> 
> $ portupgrade -v php4\*
> --->  Session started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:11 -0500
> [Gathering depends for devel/php4-gettext ......................... done]
> [Gathering depends for databases/php4-mysql .... done]
> [Gathering depends for textproc/php4-xml ... done]
> --->  Fresh installation of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008
> 19:03:38 -0500
> --->  Installing 'apache-1.3.41' from a port (www/apache13)
> --->  Build of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:42 -0500
> 
> Am I missing something?

Put:

APACHE_PORT?= www/apache13+ipv6

into /etc/make.conf to cure that behaviour.  Or you can use the 
ALT_PKGDEP hash in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf but that is
portupgrade specific.

	Cheers,

	Matthew

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Lee Dilkie wrote:
> Folks,
> 
> What's happened with the new portupgrade-devel?
> 
> I ask to to upgrade php4 and it starts an installation of apache13? I 
> have apache13+ipv6 installed so I'm not sure why it wants to install 
> apache13?
> 
> 
> $ portupgrade -v php4\*
> --->  Session started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:11 -0500
> [Gathering depends for devel/php4-gettext ......................... done]
> [Gathering depends for databases/php4-mysql .... done]
> [Gathering depends for textproc/php4-xml ... done]
> --->  Fresh installation of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 
> 19:03:38 -0500
> --->  Installing 'apache-1.3.41' from a port (www/apache13)
> --->  Build of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:42 -0500
> 
> Am I missing something?

Set APACHE_PORT=www/apache13+ipv6 in /etc/make.conf.

-- 
Dixi.
Sem.

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in message <20080207143247.GB53709@leia.lambermont.dyndns.org>,
wrote Hans Lambermont thusly...
>
> Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> ...
> > The way you upgrade a port/package on a FreeBSD machine is that
> > you pkg_delete (deinstall) the old one before pkg_add'ing
> > (installing) the new one.  All package management systems on
> > every platform I've used (Solaris, Linux, and FreeBSD) behave
> > this way.
> 
> The dreadful RPM system does not work this way. It leaves the
> files that get no update untouched, adds new stuff next to them
> and then removes the obsoleted files. rpm -Uvv shows the upgrade
> behaviour :
> 
>     * Run %pre of new package (2)
>     * Install new files
>     * Run %post of new package (2)
>     * Run %preun of old package (1)
>     * Delete any old files not overwritten by newer ones
>     * Run %postun of old package (1)

So, if anything makes the upgrade to halt after the 3d step, only
mess is left to clean up (if one is aware & willing)?


  - Parv

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Thanks Folks,

I'm happy it was something simple.

-lee


Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Lee Dilkie wrote:
> > Folks,
>
> > What's happened with the new portupgrade-devel?
>
> > I ask to to upgrade php4 and it starts an installation of apache13? I
> > have apache13+ipv6 installed so I'm not sure why it wants to install
> > apache13?
>
>
> > $ portupgrade -v php4\*
> > --->  Session started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:11 -0500
> > [Gathering depends for devel/php4-gettext ......................... 
> done]
> > [Gathering depends for databases/php4-mysql .... done]
> > [Gathering depends for textproc/php4-xml ... done]
> > --->  Fresh installation of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008
> > 19:03:38 -0500
> > --->  Installing 'apache-1.3.41' from a port (www/apache13)
> > --->  Build of www/apache13 started at: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:03:42 -0500
>
> > Am I missing something?
>
> Put:
>
> APACHE_PORT?= www/apache13+ipv6
>
> into /etc/make.conf to cure that behaviour.  Or you can use the
> ALT_PKGDEP hash in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf but that is
> portupgrade specific.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Matthew
>
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I just finished spending much more time than I would like to building
out various library and toolkit components to get Xorg working on my
FreeBSD 6.3 STABLE box. Apparently the dependency tree looks something
like this:

libICE
libSM
libXt
libXext
libXpm
libXmu

Where each library requires the ones list before it in the list.

It would be nice if the owners of these various ports would update their
Makefiles and Configuration scripts to check for the existence of the
other ports and (gasp) actually build the missing dependencies). While
some ports fail with suggestive messages, I long for the days when port
maintainers understood the dependencies (rather than assuming them
because they have always been on the developers' systems).

-- Greg

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I'm getting and error when I try and install ghostscript-gnu or gpl
that the gsfonts are inappropriate fir type. Then is stops the build.
Is there a work around for this problem?



phil

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I am running 7.0-RC2.  I have both kde and gnome installed, but I'm wondering 
how I did it, because I'm trying to force a reinstall of gnome2 and it's 
trying to install xscreensaver-gnome, which fails because xscreensaver is 
installed, which kde wants.

I checked the ports on freebsd.org and it claims gnome2 has a dependency on 
xscreensaver-gnome2-hacks.  I update my ports daily, so I don't know why my 
gnome2 (2.20.2) still wants xscreensaver-gnome.

I like having kde and gnome selectable from kdm.

Am I doing something wrong?  I bought "Absolute FREEBSD, 2nd edition", but 
Michael chose to not tackle portupgrade.  I've been using FreeBSD since the 
first book came out (like 1.5.1 or something).  I'm still struggling with 
ports and dependencies...

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On Feb 8, 2008, at 20:41 , Steven Friedrich wrote:

> I am running 7.0-RC2.  I have both kde and gnome installed, but I'm  
> wondering
> how I did it, because I'm trying to force a reinstall of gnome2 and  
> it's
> trying to install xscreensaver-gnome, which fails because  
> xscreensaver is
> installed, which kde wants.

Last time I did this, installing KDE before GNOME caused this but  
installing GNOME first worked because KDE was happy to use  
xscreensaver-gnome if that was already installed.

-- 
brandon s. allbery [solaris,freebsd,perl,pugs,haskell] allbery@kf8nh.com
system administrator [openafs,heimdal,too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu
electrical and computer engineering, carnegie mellon university    KF8NH



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On Friday 08 February 2008 09:22:07 pm Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2008, at 20:41 , Steven Friedrich wrote:
> > I am running 7.0-RC2.  I have both kde and gnome installed, but I'm
> > wondering
> > how I did it, because I'm trying to force a reinstall of gnome2 and
> > it's
> > trying to install xscreensaver-gnome, which fails because
> > xscreensaver is
> > installed, which kde wants.
>
> Last time I did this, installing KDE before GNOME caused this but
> installing GNOME first worked because KDE was happy to use
> xscreensaver-gnome if that was already installed.

Thanks Brandon.

In case anyone searches these messages, here's what I did.
pkg_deinstall -f xscreensaver
portupgrade -N xscreensaver-gnome
pkgdb -F (changed dependencies from xscreensaver to xscreensaver-gnome)
portupgrade -f kdeartwork-xscreensaver-kde kdeartwork kde

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Hi,

TrueCrypt 5.0 is without kernel dependencies. Furthermore there is  
support for FreeBSD, if you have a look at the Makefile.

Cheers, Oliver

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It seems that postgresql 8.1 port's icu patch need icu <=3D 3.6:

installed: icu-3.8 (fresh)


postgresql options:
WITH_NLS=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_PAM=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_MIT_KRB5=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_HEIMDAL_KRB5=3Dtrue
WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_LIBC_R=3Dtrue
WITH_THREADSAFE=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_TESTS=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_DEBUG=3Dtrue
WITH_ICU=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_HIER=3Dtrue
WITHOUT_INTDATE=3Dtrue


while typing 'make' in /usr/ports/databases/postgresql81-server:

checking for library containing getopt_long... none required
checking for main in -lunix... no
checking for library containing crypt... -lcrypt
checking for library containing fdatasync... no
checking for shmget in -lcygipc... no
checking for readline... yes (-lreadline)
checking for inflate in -lz... yes
checking for CRYPTO_new_ex_data in -lcrypto... yes
checking for SSL_library_init in -lssl... yes
checking for ucol_open_3_6 in -licui18n... no
checking for ucol_open_3_4 in -licui18n... no
configure: error: library 'icui18n' is required for ICU
=3D=3D=3D>  Script "configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to girgen@FreeBSD.org [maintainer] and attach t=
he
"/usr/ports/databases/postgresql81-server/work/postgresql-8.1.11/config.l=
og"
including the output of the failure of your make command. Also, it might =
be
a good idea to provide an overview of all packages installed on your syst=
em
(e.g. an `ls /var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

--
Geoffroy



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