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[Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the
Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal
opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements
for Adobe.]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM
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> Subject: Re: Flashplugin
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> Flash is a big pain IMO.
> The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list.
> The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use
> linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal.
> My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your=20
> "online experience"
> much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course.
I'm afraid that's the age-old question of demand. If there was enough
demand out there, I'm sure that any software manufacturer would consider
FreeBSD a platform that needs to be supported.=20
Providing support for the Flash Player on FreeBSD is not a one-shot
thing. You don't have some summer intern create a port of the current
version of the player, release it and then be done with it. If a
platform is officially supported it means dedication of a lot of
resources: engineering and especially testing. Once a platform is
adopted it needs to be rev'ed whenever the other platforms are updated,
otherwise you end up again in a situation where a certain application
that requires new Flash Player features does not work for you. This all
means time and money. Adobe as any other public company has to justify
its actions to its shareholders. If anybody scrutinizes the books and
sees a substantial amount of engineering and QA resources being
dedicated to a platform that has very little desktop market penetration
and because of that some other important high-reach features were
dropped, I'm sure that public company would have to answer some
questions about it.=20
Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and
asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on
FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many
*desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on
a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those
answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back
to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area.
Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as
I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20
> I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind=20
> vendors to eventually
> consider that you exist.
> I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on=20
> the web. The WWW is
> an information exchange platform, why would you want to=20
> diffuse information
> around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not=20
> be able to decipher
> it? It's a bit arrogant I think.
That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If
you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The
specifications for the format are freely available at:
http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/
And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before
the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this.=20
And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the
Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch
with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player
on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a
screen-reader will certainly have the same issues.=20
My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to
forward them to the right people and work things from my end.=20
Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as
a desktop OS.=20
Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias
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> After I had installed FreeBSD-7.0-R and enabled "gdm" in
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> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500
> "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9
> > plugin
>
> People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish
> solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these
> modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not.
> That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web.
OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in FreeBSD.
See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe.
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on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Alastair Hogge Alastair Hogge
<agh@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:47:56 Derek Graham wrote:
> > on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. "Sam
> > Fourman
> >
> > Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Derek Graham <derek.graham@att.net>
wrote:
> > > > on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Sam Fourman Jr. "Sam
> > > > Fourman
> > > >
> > > > Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Derek Graham <derek.graham@att.net>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hey all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem
> > > > > > to
> > > >
> > > > work
> > > >
> > > > > > too
> > > > > > well at least with firefox.
> > > > > > One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads
> > > > > > automaticly and Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video
> > > > > > but all it does is freeze
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the
> > > > > > restricted status.
> > > > > > Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have
> > > > > > heard
> > > >
> > > > gnash
> > > >
> > > > > > doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works
> > > > > > halfway?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Derek
> > > > >
> > > > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows
> > > > > Flash 9 plugin
> > > > >
> > > > > Sam Fourman Jr.
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > > yeah i got that installed but its a pain to run wine ver of firefox
> > > > for flash
> > > > stuff and native firefox for normal usage. Do you recommend using
> > > > wine firefox for normal use?
> > > >
> > > > I don't know, not really I have never been able to get the fonts to
> > > > look
> > >
> > > right in wine firefox
> > >
> > > Sam Fourman Jr.
> >
> > I was just going to ask you about that, it all looks like crud with the
> > fonts not right, anyone know how to setup the fonts for wine?
>
> Search for winetricks, it's a shell script that can download and install
> MS-Windows fonts(amoung other things) for you.
>
> Also PC-BSD has a PBI for installing MS-Windows fonts for wine, maybe check
> that out?
>
> > Sincerely,
> > Derek A. Graham
>
> -Alastair
>
> > President
> > D and M Computers, Inc.
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can you install PBI's on FreeBSD? thought they were only for PC-BSD
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on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Jona Joachim Jona Joachim
<jaj@hcl-club.lu> wrote:
> On 2008-06-07, Dick Hoogendijk <dick@nagual.nl> wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500
> >
> > "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9
> >> plugin
> >
> > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish
> > solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these
> > modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not.
> > That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web.
>
> Flash is a big pain IMO.
> The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list.
> The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use
> linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal.
> My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your "online
> experience" much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course.
> I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind vendors to
> eventually consider that you exist.
> I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on the web. The
> WWW is an information exchange platform, why would you want to diffuse
> information around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not be
> able to decipher it? It's a bit arrogant I think.
>
> Jona
Yeah I understand where you are going with that, but at the same time every
interface is flash, java, or silverlight. Fortunately my current banking
choice greendot doesnt use flash, but there are alot of web apps that require
it to work and require using the latest version. There is where we need
flash. We need these companies to realise that if majority of the websites on
the planet use it, then they need to support every operating system with the
means of accessing the web via a current maintained gui browser. Java,
Flash, Silverlight and all applications that are used heavily in todays
websites need to be made standardly ready and available to Windows,
Macintosh, Unix(including linux and freebsd and all 'nix os)
I do not want to have to use wine to get to a important secure login for a
bank or similar site when I am running something better then windows
My $0.02
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on Saturday 07 June 2008Saturday 07 June 2008 Tobias Hoellrich "Tobias
Hoellrich" <thoellri@adobe.com> wrote:
> [Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the
> Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal
> opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements
> for Adobe.]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim
> > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: Flashplugin
> >
> > Flash is a big pain IMO.
> > The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list.
> > The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use
> > linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal.
> > My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your
> > "online experience"
> > much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course.
>
> I'm afraid that's the age-old question of demand. If there was enough
> demand out there, I'm sure that any software manufacturer would consider
> FreeBSD a platform that needs to be supported.
> Providing support for the Flash Player on FreeBSD is not a one-shot
> thing. You don't have some summer intern create a port of the current
> version of the player, release it and then be done with it. If a
> platform is officially supported it means dedication of a lot of
> resources: engineering and especially testing. Once a platform is
> adopted it needs to be rev'ed whenever the other platforms are updated,
> otherwise you end up again in a situation where a certain application
> that requires new Flash Player features does not work for you. This all
> means time and money. Adobe as any other public company has to justify
> its actions to its shareholders. If anybody scrutinizes the books and
> sees a substantial amount of engineering and QA resources being
> dedicated to a platform that has very little desktop market penetration
> and because of that some other important high-reach features were
> dropped, I'm sure that public company would have to answer some
> questions about it.
>
> Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team and
> asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on
> FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many
> *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used on
> a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those
> answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers back
> to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area.
> Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as
> I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).
>
> > I think it is rather reducing when you have to beg unkind
> > vendors to eventually
> > consider that you exist.
> > I don't think proprietary binary formats have their place on
> > the web. The WWW is
> > an information exchange platform, why would you want to
> > diffuse information
> > around the globe when you know that a lot of people will not
> > be able to decipher
> > it? It's a bit arrogant I think.
>
> That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If
> you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The
> specifications for the format are freely available at:
> http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/
>
> And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before
> the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this.
>
> And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the
> Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch
> with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player
> on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a
> screen-reader will certainly have the same issues.
>
> My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to
> forward them to the right people and work things from my end.
>
> Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as
> a desktop OS.
>
> Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias
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FreeBSD is my one and only desktop, I run a small business and do not tend to
like to switch back and forth from os's mainly cause i use sql-ledger and it
is my main server to keep up with my bookkeeping. My wifes pc was using
pc-bsd but lack of flash made her goto kubuntu
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Tobias Hoellrich wrote:
> Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an=
d
> asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on
> FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many
> *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o=
n
> a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those
> answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac=
k
> to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area.
> Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as=
> I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20
Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for
programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared
to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's
nature implies desktop usage.
Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install
time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then
gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower
proportion of the user base.
Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report
from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant
amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the
system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't
analysed its data to extract any information about how often people
reboot their systems.
http://www.bsdstats.org/
Cheers,
Matthew
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Tobias Hoellrich wrote:
> Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an=
d
> asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on
> FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many
> *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o=
n
> a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those
> answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac=
k
> to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area.
> Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as=
> I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20
Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for
programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared
to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's
nature implies desktop usage.
Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install
time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then
gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower
proportion of the user base.
Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report
from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant
amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the
system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't
analysed its data to extract any information about how often people
reboot their systems.
http://www.bsdstats.org/
Cheers,
Matthew
--=20
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Tobias Hoellrich wrote:
> Since the last discussion I actually contacted the Flash Player team an=
d
> asked what it would take to get an official port for Flash Player on
> FreeBSD. I was asked to provide numbers that would indicate how many
> *desktop* FreeBSD systems are out there and how many of them are used o=
n
> a *regular* basis. So, if anybody on this list can provide those
> answers, I'd be more than happy to do my part and relay the answers bac=
k
> to those people who can actually influence decisions in this area.
> Again, I'm not speaking for Adobe, I'm just offering to help as much as=
> I can as a happy FreeBSD user (well, if it wasn't for
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D123735 on 8.0-CURRENT).=20
Well, if you consider PC-BSD as FreeBSD -- which it is for
programmatic purposes, then at least 15,000 users are prepared
to voluntarily self-report themselves as such. PC-BSD by it's
nature implies desktop usage.
Note that PC-BSD invites users to register with BSD Stats at install
time. Other BSD variants require the user to have heard about and then
gone and installed the reporting software, so the uptake is a lower
proportion of the user base.
Regular usage is a hard one. BSD stats requires a monthly report
from each server, so the figures they have don't include any significant
amount of historical cruft. Reports are also generated when the
system reboots, but as far as I know, the BSD Stats project hasn't
analysed its data to extract any information about how often people
reboot their systems.
http://www.bsdstats.org/
Cheers,
Matthew
--=20
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Well...
Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools
machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64...
All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks
in the first year...
With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting...
may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years...
Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks,
the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats
the computer and install other non open source OS,
the user must pay the taxes difference to the project...
a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access
the university data.
Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure...
they work with flashplugin 7....
The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros
chip...
Tell the flashplugin team about... please
Sergio
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on Sunday 08 June 2008Sunday 08 June 2008 sergio lenzi sergio lenzi
<lenzi@k1.com.br> wrote:
> Well...
>
> Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools
> machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64...
> All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks
> in the first year...
>
> With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting...
> may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years...
>
> Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks,
> the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats
> the computer and install other non open source OS,
> the user must pay the taxes difference to the project...
> a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access
> the university data.
>
> Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure...
> they work with flashplugin 7....
>
> The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros
> chip...
>
> Tell the flashplugin team about... please
>
> Sergio
>
>
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Adobe,
There are some numbers,
7,000 now and 30,000 in 3 yrs from one school
14,692 pcbsd
6,320 reported freebsd
about almost 30,000 bsd desktops reported, im sure there are alot of people
who do not report their stats, but id imagine we got alot more then 30,000
bsd desktop users. Theyd probably use an intern to do most of the work, and
we all know interns are unpaid, they earn knowledge and experience. Throw
their butts on coding a BSD Flashplayer version. I am sure if you throw in a
few pizzas everyday, some trashy sluts, and a lot of caffiene they could work
them around the clock and have something working in a couple months. Motivate
them with food, girls and hope :)
Sincerely,
Derek A. Graham
President
D and M Computers, Inc.
Exceeding your expectations everyday!
http://www.dandmcomputers.co.cc/
(847) 305-1954 ext 101
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On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Duane Hill <d.hill@yournetplus.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:30:27 -0400
> Peter Thoenen <eol1@yahoo.com> confabulated:
>
>> > I run FreeBSD 7.0 inside VMware Workstation-6.0.4 (ACE Edition) and
>> > I don't have to setup anything. The time is the always same as the
>> > host
>>
>> How long do you keep it up though Odhiambo and how intensive are you
>> using your native OS? I have a similar setup and while it sync's on
>> boot, I routinely lose 15 minutes a day (I keep it up 24x7). I think
>> it is not so much a bug in VMware as opposed to the host OS running
>> slower than it thinks (e.g. maybe a second of OS time is really
>> 1.000001 seconds of real time adding up over long periods) if the
>> native OS is under moderate to heavy use.
>
> I'm running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE within Vmware v6.0.4 build 93057 with
> the host OS being XP-Home-SP2. I also have two jails running within the
> FreeBSD VM.
>
> I have within /boot/loader.conf:
> kern.hz="50"
Oh, this explains why I never has issues with time.
I always have kern.hz="100" in loader.conf and I run ntpdate on startup.
Sorry if I mislead others.
--
EB White - "Genius is more often found in a cracked pot than in a whole one."
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On Saturday 07 June 2008 23:16:34 Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500
> >
> > "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9
> > > plugin
> >
> > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish
> > solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these
> > modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not.
> > That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web.
>
> OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in FreeBSD.
> See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe.
>
> ////jerry
I don't know to what extent this might come in handy .. but in case anyone
wants to pick up that gauntlet, you can find quite a lot to start with in
here :
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v9.pdf
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flv/
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flv/pdf/video_file_format_spec_v9.pdf
http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/
Blessings
--
Gonzalo Nemmi
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Hi all
How to do regression on libc to verify the correctness?
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Hi all
What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ?
I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller.
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for what it is worth, between 3 companies that I do consulting for, there
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2000.Flash and Microsoft Outlook remain the only 2 reasons we can not use
PC-BSD. Wine is making some GREAT Progress, and very shortly if not already,
Outlook will run in wine, and the lack of a current flash player will remain
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On Sun, June 8, 2008 00:49, Michael Toth wrote:
> Hi,
> You should be doing
> # ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX <--- note the 'X'
>
>
Thanks, tried this but same error.
hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX
ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured
hulk$ man nfe
The nfe driver supports the following media types:
autoselect Enable autoselection of the media type and options.
10baseT/UTP Set 10Mbps operation.
100baseTX Set 100Mbps (Fast Ethernet) operation.
1000baseT Set 1000Mbps (Gigabit Ethernet) operation (recent models
only).
The nfe driver supports the following media options:
half-duplex Force half duplex operation.
full-duplex Force full duplex operation.
Also for some strange reason I lost a couple of ip aliases and my default
route whilst trying to change the media and mediaopt.
I start to wonder if the combination 1000baseT and half duplex is
possible. However setting the NIC manually to 1000baseT doesnt work
either. IF set to autoselect it does negotiate to 1000baseT as I can see
on the switch.
Thanks
Patrick
>
>
> Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote:
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I am using the nfe driver on Freebsd 7.0R and I am unable to change the
>> NIC driver manually to 1000baseT with half-duplex. I believe I am not
>> getting the max out of my network connection and want to see if changing
>> the duplex will help.
>>
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 100baseTX
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0
>> nfe0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu
>> 1500
>> options=8<VLAN_MTU>
>> ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4
>> inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
>> inet 10.202.77.113 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255
>> inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255
>> inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255
>> inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
>> inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>> inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
>> media: Ethernet 100baseTX (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
>> status: active
>>
>> Why between () the 1000baseTX? Is that the actual speed? The maximum
>> speed?
>>
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseT
>> ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured
>>
>> man nfe says this is possible.
>>
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media autoselect
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0
>> nfe0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu
>> 1500
>> options=8<VLAN_MTU>
>> ether 00:18:f3:9f:f1:b4
>> inet6 fe80::218:f3ff:fe9f:f1b4%nfe0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
>> inet 10.202.77.114 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255
>> inet 10.202.77.76 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.202.77.255
>> inet 192.168.0.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
>> inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>> inet 10.202.77.110 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
>> media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
>> status: active
>>
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 mediaopt half-duplex
>> No errors but cant see if it works.
>>
>> Question is, why cant I just do the following;
>> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 media 1000baseT mediaopt half-duplex
>>
>> pciconf -lv
>> nfe0@pci0:0:7:0: class=0x068000 card=0x82341043 chip=0x03ef10de
>> rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00
>> vendor = 'Nvidia Corp'
>> device = 'MCP61 Ethernet'
>> class = bridge
>>
>> hulk# uname -a
>> FreeBSD hulk.superhero.nl 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Sun Feb 24
>> 14:37:26 CET 2008
>> admin@hulk.superhero.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>> amd64
>> hulk#
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>>
>> Patrick
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Can I force manual load balancing on my dual core processor? Or is this
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Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> Can I force manual load balancing on my dual core processor? Or is this
> entirely handled by FreeBSD itself?
> Jos
That's the job of the scheduler. If you are running -current there is
the cpuset utility that allows you to bind processes to subsets of CPUs.
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 11:39:28AM +0200, Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote:
> On Sun, June 8, 2008 00:49, Michael Toth wrote:
> > Hi,
> > You should be doing
> > # ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX <--- note the 'X'
> >
> >
>
> Thanks, tried this but same error.
>
> hulk# ifconfig nfe0 10.202.77.110 media 1000baseTX
> ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA (media): Device not configured
>
> hulk$ man nfe
> The nfe driver supports the following media types:
>
> autoselect Enable autoselection of the media type and options.
>
> 10baseT/UTP Set 10Mbps operation.
>
> 100baseTX Set 100Mbps (Fast Ethernet) operation.
>
> 1000baseT Set 1000Mbps (Gigabit Ethernet) operation (recent models
> only).
>
> The nfe driver supports the following media options:
>
> half-duplex Force half duplex operation.
>
> full-duplex Force full duplex operation.
>
> Also for some strange reason I lost a couple of ip aliases and my default
> route whilst trying to change the media and mediaopt.
>
> I start to wonder if the combination 1000baseT and half duplex is
> possible. However setting the NIC manually to 1000baseT doesnt work
> either. IF set to autoselect it does negotiate to 1000baseT as I can see
> on the switch.
If you try to force the NIC to use full-/half-duplex, then you will need to
force the other end of the connection (i.e. the switch) to the same setting
(most cheap switches do not provide any way of forcing this.)
Having one end set to auto-negotiation, while the other is forced to a
specific setting will usually not work very well.
(IIRC a switch or NIC that is set to auto-negotiate, but where the
negotiation fails (possibly because the other end is not set to
auto-negotiate) will usually revert to 10Mbps/half-duplex, i.e. the
original, slowest, Ethernet speed.)
--
<Insert your favourite quote here.>
Erik Trulsson
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Subject: Re: NFE setting manually to 1000baseT and half duplex
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Erik Trulsson wrote:
> (IIRC a switch or NIC that is set to auto-negotiate, but where the
> negotiation fails (possibly because the other end is not set to
> auto-negotiate) will usually revert to 10Mbps/half-duplex, i.e. the
> original, slowest, Ethernet speed.)
100Mb half-duplex is the default setting in this sort of mismatch. It
will 'sort of' work, but you'll find performance is terrible and there
will be significant amounts of packet loss.
Note too that 1Gb speeds require both sides to be set to autonegotiate
-- it's part of the standard for supporting those speeds, so that in
the event of transmission difficulties the connection can be gracefully
degraded rather than just ceasing to work at all.
There's a lot of received wisdom around that wiring down connection
speeds is a good idea. That may have been the case 5 or more years ago,
when there were certainly some combinations of NIC / network switch
manufacturer that just wouldn't negotiate correctly, but now that=20
1Gb/s capability is pretty much standard such incompatibilities are
rare. Nowadays, for best results, auto-negotiate.
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Matthew
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Unga wrote:
> Hi all
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> What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ?
Yes.
> I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller.
Than what? It will change depending on your CFLAGS.
Kris
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> That's the job of the scheduler. If you are running -current there is
> the cpuset utility that allows you to bind processes to subsets of CPUs.
I see; thanks for sharing
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Gelsema, P (Patrick) - FreeBSD wrote:
> Hi List,
>
> I am using the nfe driver on Freebsd 7.0R and I am unable to change
> the NIC driver manually to 1000baseT with half-duplex. I believe I am
> not getting the max out of my network connection and want to see if
> changing the duplex will help.
Even if you do have hardware that supports half-duplex gigabit ethernet
on both ends, the need to do carrier extension for any frame shorter
than 512 bytes so that CSMA/CD actually works on a reasonable sized
cable, does horrible things to your throughput if you've got lots of
small frames. (In other words, at gigabit speeds, frames smaller than
512 bytes zip down the wire so quickly that you can no longer reliably
detect collisions, so the frames all get padded.) I'm having trouble
wrapping my head around any circumstances other than horribly, horribly
broken hardware or software where half-duplex would increase your
performance over full-duplex.
That said, most (an imprecise way saying "every time I've looked this
has been the case, but I generally no longer bother looking") gigabit
ethernet hardware I've ever touched has been incapable of doing
half-duplex when it's being used at gigabit speeds. The specs for doing
it exist more for theoretical completeness than out of practical
utility. See, for example
http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/resources/doc_library/white_papers/solutions/copper_guide/gig_over_copper.htm
for a discussion on this and related topics.
My suggestion would be to let both sides auto-detect if they're both
capable of gigabit ethernet.
--Jon Radel
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with the same compiler options and same compiler as used with binary
distribution?
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Unga wrote:
> Hi all
>
> What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ?
>
> I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller.
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> That's not uncommon. For example when you go from one major FreeBSD version to
> another you have to rebuild everything most of the time because of ABI changes.
or install misc/compat6x :)
> Of course you could also wait for the building cluster to catch up and do a
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
> use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash 9
> plugin
That worked like a charm, but Adobe Reader 8.12 not only crashes the
browser, but also wine and X. So now I have wine firefox which can handle
Flash 9, but crashes on pdfs and linux-firefox which handles pdfs, but
crashes on Flash.
This seems somehow suboptimal.
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> Even if you do have hardware that supports half-duplex gigabit ethernet
> on both ends, the need to do carrier extension for any frame shorter
> than 512 bytes so that CSMA/CD actually works on a reasonable sized
> cable, does horrible things to your throughput if you've got lots of
> small frames. (In other words, at gigabit speeds, frames smaller than
> 512 bytes zip down the wire so quickly that you can no longer reliably
> detect collisions, so the frames all get padded.) I'm having trouble wrapping
> my head around any circumstances other than horribly, horribly broken
> hardware or software where half-duplex would increase your performance over
> full-duplex.
actually there are no gigabit devices incapable of full-duplex.
> ethernet hardware I've ever touched has been incapable of doing
> half-duplex when it's being used at gigabit speeds. The specs for doing
> it exist more for theoretical completeness than out of practical
> utility. See, for example
>
> http://www.intel.com/network/connectivity/resources/doc_library/white_papers/solutions/copper_guide/gig_over_copper.htm
at 10Gbit/s specs dropped half-duplex and collision detection at all.
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Hi,
does anyone know what is going on here?
this is an external usb 250gb hard disk mounted on /mnt using ntfs-3g.
The hard disk is less than a year old and not heavily used. I've only
just started using it as an external drive, it was installed in a
computer until then.
%mount
/dev/ad4s1a on / (ufs, local)
devfs on /dev (devfs, local)
/dev/ad4s1e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad4s1f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ad4s1d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/fuse1 on /mnt (fusefs, local, synchronous)
%pwd
/mnt/Documents and Settings/Administrator
%ls
Application data Local Settings My Documents
%ls ..
Administrator
%ls .
Application data Local Settings My Documents
%pwd
/mnt/Documents and Settings/Administrator
%du -sh .
5.2G .
%pwd
/mnt/Documents and Settings/Administrator
%find . > ~/anyold.textfile
find: .: No such file or directory
%pwd
pwd: .: No such file or directory
%ls
ls: .: No such file or directory
The actions leading up to this are quite random, usually using find and
du do the trick immediately but not always, and one time just doing pwd
and ls a couple of times did it. If I cd to /mnt then everything appears
again.
%uname -a
FreeBSD eco 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #4: Tue May 27 14:44:58 BST
2008 root@eco:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
%kldstat
Id Refs Address Size Name
1 16 0xc0400000 94181c kernel
2 1 0xc0d42000 14324 snd_hda.ko
3 2 0xc0d57000 4a5cc sound.ko
4 1 0xc0da2000 80dc6c nvidia.ko
5 2 0xc15b0000 28678 linux.ko
6 1 0xc15d9000 4d20 atapicam.ko
7 1 0xc15de000 6a2c4 acpi.ko
8 1 0xc4bb0000 e000 fuse.ko
%pkg_info -Ix ntfs
fusefs-ntfs-1.2506 Mount NTFS partitions (read/write) and disk images
ntfsprogs-1.13.1_5 Utilities and library to manipulate NTFS partitions
%
I did a recent chkdsk in windows on the disk and it did some repairs -
cross-linked files I think. I have a log of what it found.
Thanks
Chris
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:16:34 -0400
Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 12:03:50AM +0200, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:33:26 -0500
> > "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > use Firefox for Windows and use wine, then install the windows Flash
9 plugin
> >
> > People choosing FreeBSD shouldn't be "forced" to run windowish
solution. The OS is not supported. That's a major problem in these
modern times, although lots of fbsd people tend to say it is not.
That's not everyday's live however. FreeBSD does not make the web.
>
> OK. So get busy anc contribute a flash9 plugin that works in
> FreeBSD. See if you can get the necessary information out of Adobe.
As Tobias Hoelrich stated:
That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If
you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The
specifications for the format are freely available at:
http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/
So, the infromation -is- there.
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++ http://nagual.nl/ | SunOS 10u5 05/08 ++
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:01:36AM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote:
> Well...
>
> Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools
> machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64...
> All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks
> in the first year...
>
> With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting...
> may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years...
Sounds like you should also install the BSD Stats utility on those
machines so they will report their existence to the stats. It would
significantly update the numbers.
////jerry
>
> Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks,
> the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats
> the computer and install other non open source OS,
> the user must pay the taxes difference to the project...
> a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access
> the university data.
>
> Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure...
> they work with flashplugin 7....
>
> The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros
> chip...
>
> Tell the flashplugin team about... please
>
> Sergio
>
>
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Hello list!
I plan to install a web server for production use and ZFS looks very
interesting, especially since it has built-in support for RAID and
checksum.
The hardware is already purchased, a 1U-casis with a PhemonX4 9550
CPU, 4GB ECC RAM @ 800MHz and 2x500GB SATA disks and I am about to
select the operating system to use.
The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and
"OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons.
I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for
native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer
checksums on the fly.
My main question is: How is the support for ZFS on FreeBSD? Is it
sufficiently stable and fast enough to be used in production yet?
If not, is there any alternative filesystem that offers checksums on
the fly or other similar technology to reduce the risk of a corrupt
filesystem that at the same time plays well with software RAID (RAID-1
in particular)?
Thanks in advance!
Anders
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Hi *,
which SATA controller is supported for SATA-DVDRAM (or just any other=20
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Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:01:36AM -0300, sergio lenzi wrote:
>
>> Well...
>>
>> Here I am in a project of notebooks for schools
>> machines with 13" 120gb of disk turion 64...
>> All of them running FreeBSD 7.0 it is about 7000 notebooks
>> in the first year...
>>
>> With a total of 35000 notebooks in 3 years... and counting...
>> may be a total of 100,000 notebooks in 5 years...
>
> Sounds like you should also install the BSD Stats utility on those
> machines so they will report their existence to the stats. It would
> significantly update the numbers.
>
> ////jerry
>
What is the project? An article about it would be great for FreeBSD news...
Chris
>
>
>> Because of special taxes applied in the notebooks,
>> the user must use FreeBSD or Linux. If the user formats
>> the computer and install other non open source OS,
>> the user must pay the taxes difference to the project...
>> a value of about US$200. and will not be able to access
>> the university data.
>>
>> Well.. about the flashplugin... it is a problem... for sure...
>> they work with flashplugin 7....
>>
>> The wireless is a problem too, for that we choose intel or atheros
>> chip...
>>
>> Tell the flashplugin team about... please
>>
>> Sergio
>>
>>
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Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and
'make -j4 buildworld' ?
Thanks,
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Hi Edward,
same here (RELEASE 6.3):
atapci0: <Promise PDC40718 SATA300 controller> port 0xd800-0xd87f,0xd400-0x=
d4ff mem 0xdfeff000-0xdfefffff,0xdfec00 00-0xdfedffff irq 19 at device 3.0 =
on pci2
[...]
atapci1: <Promise PDC20376 SATA150 controller> port 0xc400-0xc43f,0xc000-0x=
c00f,0xbc00-0xbc7f mem 0xdfefd000-0xdfefdfff,0xdfe40000-0xdfe5ffff irq 22 a=
t device 14.0 on pci2
[...]
ad0: 78533MB <Hitachi HDS728080PLAT20 PF2OA21B> at ata0-master UDMA100
ad2: 286168MB <SAMSUNG HD300LD WK100-12> at ata1-master UDMA100
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad0s1f is label/HOMEcrypt.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad2s1 is ufs/DATA.
acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
acd0: CDROM <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH20NS10/EL00> at ata5-master SATA150
acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
[... lot more ...]
acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
ad12: 286188MB <Maxtor 7L300S0 BANC1G10> at ata6-master SATA150
ad14: 476940MB <SAMSUNG HD501LJ CR100-10> at ata7-master SATA150
[...]
The DVDRAM doesn't work on both Promise-Controllers (onboard and the
300TX4 PCI), also tested with 7-STBLE snapshot and 8-CURRENT snapshot
live CDs. It's running perfect with a recent Knoppix DVD so it's not a
hardware bug.
See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3Dkern/122291 for more
details on this.
Regards
Raphael Becker
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 12:03:00AM -0700, Edward Sutton wrote:
>=20
> This is a collection of information to my troubles. I am hoping to find=
out what mailing list is most appropriate before I started posting kernel =
dump backtraces and asking what other details to post. What other details m=
ay be relevant to gather would also be helpful. Are there safe ways to cras=
h a system to gather details without further filesystem corruption?
> My motherboard is about six years old so it has no SATA ports for the d=
rive; My old Promise SATA150 TX4 was loaded with four hard drives; it appea=
rs to not support optical drives so I recently purchased the Promise SATA30=
0 TX2plus to have a card giving what I need on this old computer and hopefu=
lly an IDE port on my next computer (if the board I buy in a year comes wit=
h a PCI slot for it). I thought Promise cards receive good FreeBSD support =
and was readily available at a local retailer.=20
> Upon booting, I get the following 2 errors after a long pause:
>=20
> acd0: timeout waiting to issue command
> acd0: error issuing ATA PACKET command
--=20
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--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> From: Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
> Subject: Re: What consists FreeBSD Libc?
> To: unga888@yahoo.com
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 6:37 PM
> Unga wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > What consists FreeBSD Libc (/lib/libc.so.7)? Is it
> only /usr/src/lib/libc/* ?
>
> Yes.
>
> > I have compiled /usr/src/lib/libc/*, the resulting
> libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller.
>
> Than what? It will change depending on your CFLAGS.
>
Thanks Kris & Wojciech for replies.
Its great to get it confirmed that FreeBSD Libc is only /usr/src/lib/libc/* as I presumed.
I have compiled and installed the FreeBSD Libc into a temp directory. The size of /tmp/libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller than /lib/libc.so.7.
The /lib/libc.so.7 is dated May 25, 2008. I did not touch CFLAGS or anything other than DESTDIR. But I really forgot, the gcc version is different. The /lib/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.2.1, but the /tmp/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.3.0. May be the code generation of the latest gcc may be better.
I think the size difference may not be an issue as the libc is get it compiled and installed without any error.
The GNU glibc has a "make check", but there is no make check target for FreeBSD libc. How do you guys test it? Is the /usr/src/tools/regression/ any help for that?
Regards
Unga
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Hi!
I usually use the wired network at home, in which everything gets
configured automatically as soon as I attach the cable to my network
card.
However, when using the wireless network, I need to run
# route add default -iface ipw0
This will give me a route to the gateway (10.0.0.1), and I can ping
the gateway, as well as other machines on our local network. But if
I try to connect to anything outside of 10/24, I get a "no route to
host" error. If I manually add a route, with
# route add x.y.z.t 10.0.0.1
I can connect to that host. If I change my default route to anything
but "-iface ipw0" I cannot connect to the gateway (10.0.0.1). I
cannot keep adding routes to all hosts I need to connect to.
I've solved the problem for web usage, by running a proxy on another
machine on the local network (that's reachable)
What am I doing wrong?
I don't think I have a thorough understanding of network routes.
Svein Halvor
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"Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" <hagge.lists@intercorner.net> wrote:
> I plan to install a web server for production use and ZFS looks very
> interesting, especially since it has built-in support for RAID and
> checksum.
>=20
> The hardware is already purchased, a 1U-casis with a PhemonX4 9550
> CPU, 4GB ECC RAM @ 800MHz and 2x500GB SATA disks and I am about to
> select the operating system to use.
>=20
> The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and
> "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons.
Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05
would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my
experience.
On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
much useless.
On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's
significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's
ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses
the disk directly.
Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications
for ZFS, though. Things may look differently on more powerful
systems.
> I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for
> native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer
> checksums on the fly.
>=20
> My main question is: How is the support for ZFS on FreeBSD? Is it
> sufficiently stable and fast enough to be used in production yet?
It probably depends on your workload, you'll find several complaints
in the archives. It works fine for me, but I haven't tried it on web
servers yet. If I were to install a web server today, though,
I'd definitely go with ZFS (on FreeBSD).
> If not, is there any alternative filesystem that offers checksums on
> the fly or other similar technology to reduce the risk of a corrupt
> filesystem that at the same time plays well with software RAID (RAID-1
> in particular)?
You can use geli(8) for checksumming, it can be combined with gmirror
but unless with ZFS, you don't get automatic "self-healing".
Fabian
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Dear All,
I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
the configure in the menu.
Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
I can see it by fc-list:
[3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
I add entry in .Xresources:
Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
But run the aterm give me:
aterm: can't load font "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman"
Could anyone give me a clue on how to change the font of aterm?
--
Best wishes,
Kemian
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Em Dom, 2008-06-08 Ã s 14:37 +0100, Chris Whitehouse escreveu:
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
====================================
The idea behind the FreebSD nobebook project is rather simple:
Here in my country a person must (or should) pay a lot of taxes to
the govern... for every notebook sold, there is about 70% of taxes plus
about 6% month of fincancial costs... so a "small notebook" sells for
about U$1400.
in this $1400 there are almost $800 of taxes... without count the
financial costs of about 6%/month (at best) .
But not everything is lost... the govern invest much money in
education,
and health... (I know that a lot of money is lost... but it does not
count, lost is lost)...
For educacional pourposes, the taxes are very low (about 10%)... so a
good notebook
sells for US800. (final cost).. the notbook is turion 64 (preferable
not dual core)... 120gb hd
wireless 13"... without operating system.. and bought in chunks of 1000.
Because they will use open source, and the operating system must be
built from ground zero within the university...
serialized, with a software key code that is able to trace the
machine...
(there is no debian, mandriva, gentoo....,microsoft) no comercial brand
should apply...
finance with the State bank in 36 months it will cost about US$20/month
with insurance...
The student sign a contract that will take care of the machine and if
tampered (other no open source
OS installed)... all the taxes should be payed by him...
The notbooks runs Gnome 2.22 and with wireless in the campus, everybody
can access the multimedia
files stored in the FreBSD servers (about 20T)... Using a modified divx
codec, the media is protected from
being seen or used by non authorized persons (ok I know that the
protection is not hard) but is enough
for dayly used (all media is marked with a water mark (thanks mencoder
team...)).
The Evolution (email client...) is linked with the open exchange server
and ldap... so a person can email and
receive information form the university staff and others using the ldap
servers...
Telephony is done using Ekiga (low rates apply to PSTN)... and if you
have fast internet connection, the builtin camera can be used
for video on Ekiga...
Gatekeepers (using gnugk) links directly to the PSTN, ekiga talks h323..
so no problem with it too.
For office is used openoffice 3.0 (now beta)..
Media is produced or convertd using ffmpeg mplayer... can be seen on
the standard gnome media
player, using libxine backend...
it just works....
Hope will start installing the servers till end of this month...
Ok... and the users that already have the vista boxes??? (about 2%)
No problem... for a small $$$$ they can install a program
that identifyes the notebook to the servers. About the media...
well they can always convert the media... (some more cost is
involved...)
no virus protection is installed in the network. so windows users
are advised to not link their computers at any point of the network
(use at own risk signs are all around...)
Included in the project, there is $$$$ for training the users to use
gnome...
(well in fact... make the users forget words and methods. (excell,
outlook, word,
anti-virus, codec, media player...))
Why not KDE???? too powerfull.. excelent, consumes more resources,
must get an written permission for QT (the lawers said...). Too
complicated for the users....
the users just want to ckick and go...
That is the project... it was 2 years of negotiation... of course "THEY"
tried to do the same...
but after 2 years... the project specification remains the same...
Another good candidate is Arch Linux... but have some problems with
the media play...
(totem xine zoom does not work, and the openoffice in native language
have some problems,
kernel version and internals change too soon... the kernel schedule does
not compare to FreeBSD7_ULE...
so sometimes the media play "chokes" at heavy load... but is a good
candidade)...
With the $$$$ earn in the project... some of them will be inject in
FreeBSD to make some things work (flash player,
buggy bios...). Must have $$$ to teach people to program in
gnome/gtk...
this will generate JOBS.. if one in 100 produce something in some time
we will have a "new softwre company"...
The first buyer??? the govern...
The ideia is to theach the children for no need to punish the men...
Thanks for reading....
Sergio
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> receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
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> Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications
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The -bare- minimum for OpenSolaris is 512MB. That's not only for ZFS.
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thoroughly) tested ;-)
The best stable (production) server with ZFS is solaris-10u5
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The servers internal NIC is a Intel 1000 Gigabit card, using the em0 driver. I never
had an issue with it w/ the 5.x or 6x series or freebsd, so I suspect a buggy
driver in 7.0
/var/log/messages contains spams of these messages:
kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq19:"; throttling interrupt source
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 07:38:38AM -0700, erpa1119 wrote:
>=20
> I am completely new to linux and need help with wireless connectivity.=20
> I have installed freebsd 6.3-RELEASE=20
Technically, FreeBSD is not Linux. The Unix family tree looks something
like the following (greatly simplified):
Bell Labs Unix
|
----------------
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BSD Unix SysV Unix
| |
| |
FreeBSD Solaris Linux
Linux is way over to the right by itself because it doesn't really have
any "genetic" relation to the others. FreeBSD doesn't share any original
"genetic" material with the SysV line, either, but that's basically
because it "evolved" to that point -- whereas Linux was created from
scratch to emulate (mostly SysV) Unix functionality. There's a lot in
common between most Linux distributions and most FreeBSD installs, but
that's in large part because of the plethora of open source applications
that can be installed on both, and because the two are both tied to a
sort of Unix "tradition" of OS design. It's not so much because of any
actual family relation, per se.
Sorry if this seems somewhat off the topic of what you're asking. I'm
just trying to be informative. A better way to phrase your original
sentence would have been something like "I am completely new to Unix-like
systems and need help with wireless connectivity."
>=20
> I have a toshiba satellite 1005-s157 with a dlink gs630 pcmcia card=20
> and a linksys wr54g wireless router.=20
> ifconfig shows status: associated but I cannot ping anything other=20
> than the static IP address that I gave to the wireless card.=20
>=20
> The card is known working, the AP is known working.=20
> I do not have DHCP running on the AP and simply assign IP's to all of=20
> my boxes when I first bring them online.=20
>=20
> topology:=20
> wall-->bellsouth router-->linksys AP=20
> linksys has a static IP of 192.168.1.3=20
> bellsouth router has a static IP of 192.168.1.254=20
>=20
> I have added a default route by running the following.=20
> route add default 192.168.1.254=20
Is the Linksys access point a router? Is it running NAT? Your FreeBSD
system might effectively be tucked away in a subnet, which could possibly
account for (some of?) your problems.
>=20
> I also ran this=20
> ifconfig ath0 ssid "MYAPNAMEHERE" wepmode on weptxkey "MYPASSPHRASE"=20
>=20
> ifconfig ath0 list scan shows the AP that I am trying to connect=20
> through and shows CAPS of EP only.=20
>=20
> The Question is:=20
> How am I associated with the AP but cannot ping anything other than=20
> localhost, 127.0.0.1 and the static IP address that I gave the card?=20
Does this mean you can't ping the Linksys access point? Is the access
point configured to ignore pings?
>=20
> All pings except to localhost or 127 or my static ip result in a host=20
> down message=20
>=20
> contents of /etc/resolv.conf=20
>=20
>=20
> search .=20
> nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx=20
> nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx=20
> nameserver 205.xxx.xxx.xxx
You probably don't need three copies of the same line -- or are those
three different IP addresses that you've Xed out? Is the period after
"search" what's actually in the file, or did you elide some of the
contents of that line?
Sorry if I'm not as useful as I should be -- I still haven't fully woken
up, and may miss something obvious.
--=20
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
> the configure in the menu.
> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
>
> I can see it by fc-list:
>
> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
>
> I add entry in .Xresources:
>
> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
Use:
Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
Then:
$ xrdb -load
The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
$ xlsfonts | less
gives you the names of the fonts you can use.
>
> But run the aterm give me:
>
> aterm: can't load font "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman"
>
> Could anyone give me a clue on how to change the font of aterm?
>
> --
> Best wishes,
> Kemian
Regards,
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>
>> Even if you do have hardware that supports half-duplex gigabit ethernet
>> on both ends, the need to do carrier extension for any frame shorter
>> than 512 bytes so that CSMA/CD actually works on a reasonable sized
>> cable, does horrible things to your throughput if you've got lots of
>> small frames. (In other words, at gigabit speeds, frames smaller than
>> 512 bytes zip down the wire so quickly that you can no longer reliably
>> detect collisions, so the frames all get padded.) I'm having trouble
>> wrapping my head around any circumstances other than horribly,
>> horribly broken hardware or software where half-duplex would increase
>> your performance over full-duplex.
>
> actually there are no gigabit devices incapable of full-duplex.
I would certainly hope so; I can't see much of a market for gigabit
ethernet devices that can't do full-duplex. (I'm a touch confused,
however, by your phrasing that as if you're rebutting something I wrote.)
--Jon Radel
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$ man make
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-j max_jobs
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Schiz0 wrote:
> The host is installing 6.3-RELEASE. I'd like to upgrade to
> 7.0-RELEASE, as well as compile in some kernel options for various
> things. What's the best way to do this on a remote system, minimizing
> compiling a bad kernel and causing it not to boot? I wouldn't have
> access to single user mode or anything.
>
Just have a look to this URL; I allready read that this works flawless:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-freebsd-server-upgrades/
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Subject: Re: Flashplugin
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> That worked like a charm, but Adobe Reader 8.12 not only crashes the
> browser, but also wine and X. So now I have wine firefox which can handle
> Flash 9, but crashes on pdfs and linux-firefox which handles pdfs, but
> crashes on Flash.
>
What version of wine are you using? I believe they fixed that in wine
recently
Sam Fourman Jr.
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Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm
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2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
>> the configure in the menu.
>> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
>>
>> I can see it by fc-list:
>>
>> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
>> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
>>
>> I add entry in .Xresources:
>>
>> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
>
> Use:
>
> Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
>
> in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
>
aterm still complain can not find this font.
> Then:
>
> $ xrdb -load
This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened.
I have to Ctrl+C to stop it.
>
> The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
>
> $ xlsfonts | less
This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono".
>
> gives you the names of the fonts you can use.
>
>>
>> But run the aterm give me:
>>
>> aterm: can't load font "xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman"
>>
>> Could anyone give me a clue on how to change the font of aterm?
>>
>> --
>> Best wishes,
>> Kemian
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>
> Frank
>
>
> Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
>
>
So, any ideas.
--
Best wishes,
Kemian
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>
> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
> >> the configure in the menu.
> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
> >>
> >> I can see it by fc-list:
> >>
> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
> >>
> >> I add entry in .Xresources:
> >>
> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
> >
> > Use:
> >
> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
> >
> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
> >
>
> aterm still complain can not find this font.
>
> > Then:
> >
> > $ xrdb -load
Sorry. should have been:
$ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
>
> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened.
> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it.
>
> >
> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
> >
> > $ xlsfonts | less
>
> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono".
Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist?
If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the
instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X.
If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so:
FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"
under the "Files" section. Restart X.
X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for
aterm.
xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts.
Regards,
--
Frank
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Thanks for the quick answers!
2008/6/8 Fabian Keil <freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de>:
> Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05
> would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my
> experience.
Yes, I assumed that because Sun can implement and optimize ZFS to fit
OpenSolaris, while we run the risk with FreeBSD to implement bugs
while we implement ZFS.
2008/6/8 Dick Hoogendijk <dick@nagual.nl>:
> The best stable (production) server with ZFS is solaris-10u5
> If you want to boot off ZFS, S10u6 will support that.
>
> But these versions too need lots of ram. I think fbsd has a lighter
> footprint.
As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this
server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as
little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for the
server processes to work with (mostly web-server and mysql-server).
According to a page I have found it says that some basic
(FreeBSD-specific) functions are not ready, how does that affect ZFS
in general?
http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFS
Regards
Anders
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Well, I can't be sure without seeing your entire routing table, but I
would bet you need to do something more like this:
route add -net 10.0.0.0/24 -iface ipw0
route add default 10.0.0.1
(or maybe route add default gw 10.0.0.1)
If that doesn't work try giving us the output from your routing table
(netstat -rn).
-Matt
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen
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> Hi!
>
> I usually use the wired network at home, in which everything gets
> configured automatically as soon as I attach the cable to my network
> card.
>
> However, when using the wireless network, I need to run
>
> # route add default -iface ipw0
>
> This will give me a route to the gateway (10.0.0.1), and I can ping
> the gateway, as well as other machines on our local network. But if
> I try to connect to anything outside of 10/24, I get a "no route to
> host" error. If I manually add a route, with
>
> # route add x.y.z.t 10.0.0.1
>
> I can connect to that host. If I change my default route to anything
> but "-iface ipw0" I cannot connect to the gateway (10.0.0.1). I
> cannot keep adding routes to all hosts I need to connect to.
>
> I've solved the problem for web usage, by running a proxy on another
> machine on the local network (that's reachable)
>
>
> What am I doing wrong?
> I don't think I have a thorough understanding of network routes.
>
>
> Svein Halvor
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Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk> writes:
> If you're lucky, the jpg's will contain exif info which if the
> phone's time & date is set will tell you when the picture was taken
> amongst other things.
>
> This is more reliable than depending on file date.
>
> Here's a quick & dirty perl script (called picinfo) that I used to get
> this data (modify at your will):
I would recommend graphics/jhead.
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2008/6/8 Fabian Keil <freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de>:
> "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" <hagge.lists@intercorner.net> wrote:
>
[...]
> Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05
> would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my
> experience.
>
> On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
> receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
> much useless.
>
> On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's
> significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's
> ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses
> the disk directly.
>
This hasn't anything to do with ZFS but on the different configuration
of the clockrate. FreeBSD uses 1000 ticks, while it's 500 on Solaris.
This means that FreeBSD can switch to different tasks twice as fast
than Solaris. For a server a high tick rate isn't necessary, so it
doesn't matter really. And Solaris still is a server OS.
If you're running a desktop it makes quite a difference, of course.
Interesstingly enough PC BSD configures kern.clockrate to 2000.
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> The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and
> "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons.
>
could you tell any pros for opensolaris?
> I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for
> native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer
> checksums on the fly.
agree
>
> My main question is: How is the support for ZFS on FreeBSD? Is it
while i don't use it, it works rather as in manual. no crashes if
configured right.
> sufficiently stable and fast enough to be used in production yet?
that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all. it's
just memory and CPU eater.
> If not, is there any alternative filesystem that offers checksums on
> the fly or other similar technology to reduce the risk of a corrupt
> filesystem that at the same time plays well with software RAID (RAID-1
> in particular)?
while i use RAID-1 for a long time be it linux or netbsd or freebsd, there
is no need for checksumming. there are sector's checksums on disks,
checked on every read. in SATA protocol there is error checking during
transmission too.
there is already well done things in hardware to do disk transfers without
CPU overhead, but ZFS introduces overhead and advertises it as feature.
quick advice - gmirror this 2 drives and then use UFS.
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Hi,
We install a new server Dell 2950 with FreeBSD 7.0 and we've got some
issues with same.
Hardware: Dell 2950 Intel(R) Xeon(R) Dual CPU Quad-Core E5335 @ 2.00GHz
(1995.01-MHz K8-class CPU) with 4079 MB RAM and 2 x 250GB SATA HDD.
Normal server install using developer, all sources without games.
Upgrade to 7.0-p1#, then recompile kernel with
GENERIC +
device pf
device pfsync
device pflog
device carp
options HZ=3D1000
options DEVICE_POLLING
Server is running as secondary PF firewall with CARP/PFSYNC/IFSTATED.
Additional services running on the server are bind, net-snmp and ssh.
We have additional 7 servers running similar services with 6.2 and 7.0
FreeBSD all running fine.
Later same day the server crashed.
The traffic was on MASTER CARP server when crash happen, server was not
under load, CPU was 0% and memory 10% from NMS reports.=20
We were able to got a crash dump:
[root@fw2 FW]# kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.0
[GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads:
/usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"]
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details.
This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd".
Unread portion of the kernel message buffer:
<7>arp_rtrequest: bad gateway 196.3.61.14 (!AF_LINK)
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid =3D 0; apic id =3D 00
fault virtual address =3D 0xda040020
fault code =3D supervisor read data, page not present
instruction pointer =3D 0x8:0xffffffff80666070
stack pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffffffac3e0650
frame pointer =3D 0x10:0xffffff00cfb42820
code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
=3D DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1
processor eflags =3D interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
current process =3D 19 (swi1: net)
trap number =3D 12
panic: page fault
cpuid =3D 0
Uptime: 2h10m11s
Physical memory: 4079 MB
Dumping 425 MB: 410 394 378 362 346 330 314 298 282 266 250 234 218 202
186 170 154 138 122 106 90 74 58 42 26 10
#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194
194 __asm __volatile("movq %%gs:0,%0" : "=3Dr" (td));
(kgdb) list *0xffffffff80666070
0xffffffff80666070 is in uma_zfree_internal (uma_int.h:368).
363 int hval;
364
365 hval =3D UMA_HASH(hash, data);
366
367 SLIST_FOREACH(slab, &hash->uh_slab_hash[hval], us_hlink)
{
368 if ((u_int8_t *)slab->us_data =3D=3D data)
369 return (slab);
370 }
371 return (NULL);
372 }
(kgdb) backtrace
#0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194
#1 0x0000000000000004 in ?? ()
#2 0xffffffff80497ea9 in boot (howto=3D260) at
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409
#3 0xffffffff804982ad in panic (fmt=3D0x104 <Address 0x104 out of
bounds>) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:563
#4 0xffffffff8071ad64 in trap_fatal (frame=3D0xffffff00010e0340,
eva=3D18446742974215697512) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:724
#5 0xffffffff8071b135 in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xffffffffac3e05a0,
usermode=3D0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:641
#6 0xffffffff8071ba78 in trap (frame=3D0xffffffffac3e05a0) at
/usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:410
#7 0xffffffff807016de in calltrap () at
/usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:169
#8 0xffffffff80666070 in uma_zfree_internal (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb42820,
item=3D0xffffff0003b2e000, udata=3D0x0, skip=3DVariable "skip" is not
available.) at uma_int.h:367
#9 0xffffffff8066909b in uma_zfree_arg (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb42820,
item=3D0xffffff0003b2e000, udata=3D0x0) at =
/usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2405
#10 0xffffffff80665fe4 in uma_zfree_internal (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0,
item=3D0xffffff0003a86600, udata=3D0x0, skip=3DVariable "skip" is not
available.) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:2434
#11 0xffffffff80666bba in bucket_drain (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0,
bucket=3D0xffffff0003a94830) at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:595
#12 0xffffffff80666cab in bucket_cache_drain (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0)
at /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:662
#13 0xffffffff8066996b in zone_drain (zone=3D0xffffff00cfb429c0) at
/usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:710
#14 0xffffffff801b7f95 in pfsync_get_mbuf (sc=3D0xffffff0003573400,
action=3D2 '\002', sp=3D0xffffff0003573570) at mbuf.h:529
#15 0xffffffff801b8208 in pfsync_pack_state (action=3DVariable "action" =
is
not available.) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/if_pfsync.c:1512
#16 0xffffffff801ce863 in pf_test (dir=3D1, ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800,
m0=3D0xffffffffac3e0a00, eh=3DVariable "eh" is not available.) at
/usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/pf.c:6955
#17 0xffffffff801d360a in pf_check_in (arg=3DVariable "arg" is not
available.) at /usr/src/sys/contrib/pf/net/pf_ioctl.c:3533
#18 0xffffffff80539561 in pfil_run_hooks (ph=3DVariable "ph" is not
available.) at /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:78
#19 0xffffffff80574e2b in ip_input (m=3D0xffffff0036190500) at
/usr/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c:417
#20 0xffffffff8052dee1 in ether_demux (ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800,
m=3D0xffffff0036190500) at /usr/src/sys/net/if_ethersubr.c:834
#21 0xffffffff8052e181 in ether_input (ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800,
m=3D0xffffff0036190500) at /usr/src/sys/net/if_ethersubr.c:692
#22 0xffffffff802d77ac in em_rxeof (adapter=3D0xffffff000122f000,
count=3D119) at /usr/src/sys/dev/em/if_em.c:4542
#23 0xffffffff802d84d7 in em_poll (ifp=3D0xffffff000128d800, =
cmd=3DVariable
"cmd" is not available.) at /usr/src/sys/dev/em/if_em.c:1433
#24 0xffffffff8048dd8d in netisr_poll () at
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_poll.c:432
#25 0xffffffff80537e8a in swi_net (dummy=3DVariable "dummy" is not
available.) at /usr/src/sys/net/netisr.c:254
#26 0xffffffff8047b5a0 in ithread_loop (arg=3D0xffffff00010d9b80) at
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_intr.c:1036
#27 0xffffffff80478673 in fork_exit (callout=3D0xffffffff8047b430
<ithread_loop>, arg=3D0xffffff00010d9b80, frame=3D0xffffffffac3e0c80) at
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:781
#28 0xffffffff80701aae in fork_trampoline () at
/usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:415
#29 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#30 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#31 0x0000000000000001 in ?? ()
#32 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#33 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#34 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#35 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#36 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#37 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#38 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#39 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#40 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#41 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#42 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#43 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#44 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#45 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#46 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#47 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#48 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#49 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#50 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#51 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#52 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#53 0x0000000000c9c000 in ?? ()
#54 0xffffff00010e0340 in ?? ()
#55 0x0000000000000001 in ?? ()
#56 0xffffff00010f3468 in ?? ()
#57 0xffffff00010e0680 in ?? ()
#58 0xffffff00010e0340 in ?? ()
#59 0xffffffffac3e0b58 in ?? ()
#60 0xffffff00010e0340 in ?? ()
#61 0xffffffff804b5b69 in sched_switch (td=3D0xffffff00010d9b80,
newtd=3D0xffffffff8047b430, flags=3D0) at =
/usr/src/sys/kern/sched_4bsd.c:905
#62 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#63 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#64 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#65 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#66 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#67 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#68 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#69 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#70 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#71 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#72 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#73 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#74 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#75 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#76 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#77 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#78 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#79 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#80 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#81 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#82 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#83 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#84 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#85 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#86 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#87 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#88 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#89 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#90 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#91 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#92 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#93 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#94 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#95 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#96 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#97 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#98 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#99 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#100 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#101 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#102 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#103 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#104 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#105 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#106 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#107 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#108 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#109 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#110 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#111 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#112 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#113 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#114 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#115 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#116 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#117 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#118 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#119 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#120 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#121 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#122 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#123 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#124 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#125 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#126 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#127 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#128 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#129 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#130 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#131 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#132 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
#133 0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
Cannot access memory at address 0xffffffffac3e1000
(kgdb)
Appreciate your help in identifying if this is a hardware failure or we
just step on a bug.
Best Regards
Catalin Miclaus
Network/Security ISP-Data
Starcomms Ltd.
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> On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
> receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
> much useless.
looks like very bad CPU and I/O scheduling on Solaris.
maybe that's their 32-64 hardware threads capable chip is advertised so
much? :)
>
> On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's
> significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's
> ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses
> the disk directly.
there is quite big difference with geli. it is CPU eater and produces
delays noticable on machines that like P3 or less. but at least - it does
something useful unlike these ZFS checksumming and other things.
> Note that the system is below Sun's recommended specifications
> for ZFS, though. Things may look differently on more powerful
> systems.
but comparision probably the same, or difference less noticable on
stronger systems.
>
> You can use geli(8) for checksumming, it can be combined with gmirror
> but unless with ZFS, you don't get automatic "self-healing".
whatever it means ;)
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> On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
> receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
> much useless.
>
> On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's
> significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's
> ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses
> the disk directly.
anyway something get changed between FreeBSD 6 and 7.
as i changed this on quite loaded server from 6.3 to 7 - general
throughput increased well. tasks are done much faster.
on on my laptop it's the same, but interactive delays was much lower on
6.3
is it possible to turn "old mode" on FreeBSD 7. on my laptop interactive
performance is more important.
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> As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this
> server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as
> little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for the
> server processes to work with (mostly web-server and mysql-server).
ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for actual
work ;)
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> If you're running a desktop it makes quite a difference, of course.
> Interesstingly enough PC BSD configures kern.clockrate to 2000.
human can't notice delays below 10ms.
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>I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./
>and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them.
>Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
I expect you need something like:
find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
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after upgrade 6.3 to 7.0 mergemaster didn't do the job properly
After a normal reboot I get a lot of Warnings like
/etc/rc: WARNING: $variable_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5)
HOw to solve this problem???
Thanks
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> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./ and
> down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them.
> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
anyway it's nothing about being Grep Guru, or Find Guru
but it's really worth to be Man Guru :)
man find
man xargs
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>> That worked like a charm, but Adobe Reader 8.12 not only crashes the
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>> Flash 9, but crashes on pdfs and linux-firefox which handles pdfs, but
>> crashes on Flash.
>>
>
> What version of wine are you using? I believe they fixed that in wine
> recently
The current port which is 1.0-rc3 according to the (port) Makefile.
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> Its great to get it confirmed that FreeBSD Libc is only /usr/src/lib/libc/* as I presumed.
>
> I have compiled and installed the FreeBSD Libc into a temp directory. The size of /tmp/libc.so.7 is about 65,000 bytes smaller than /lib/libc.so.7.
>
> The /lib/libc.so.7 is dated May 25, 2008. I did not touch CFLAGS or anything other than DESTDIR. But I really forgot, the gcc version is different. The /lib/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.2.1, but the /tmp/libc.so.7 is by gcc 4.3.0. May be the code generation of the latest gcc may be better.
indeed it is better. while difference between gcc 3.* and 4.* is HUGE in
respect of code size. after i upgraded to FreeBSD 7 from 6.3 (so gcc got
upgraded to 4.*) i recompiled bash. same version, >20% smaller!
finally gcc turned to rule "small code=fast code", always true on
processors with at least 1 level of cache, not mentioning 2 or 3 cache
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Just upgraded stunnel and getting the following error message in the
/var/log/messages file. any clues?
---- snip ---
Jun 8 13:17:04 stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file
descriptor
Jun 8 13:17:34 last message repeated 530400 times
Jun 8 13:18:00 last message repeated 488687 times
---- snip ---
--- configuration -------
# cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf
# Sample stunnel configuration file
# Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002
# Comment it out on Win32
cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
chroot = /var/run/stunnel
#chroot = /var/run
# PID is created inside chroot jail
pid = /stunnel.pid
setuid = stunnel
setgid = stunnel
# grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf
stunnel_enable="YES"
# cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel
#!/bin/sh
#
# $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26
14:18:12 roam Exp $
#
# PROVIDE: stunnel
# REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS
# BEFORE: DAEMON
# KEYWORD: shutdown
#
# Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure stunnel:
# stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default.
# Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel.
# stunnel_config (str): Default
"/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf"
# Set it to the full path to the config file
# that stunnel will use during the automated
# start-up.
# stunnel_pidfile (str): Default "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid"
# Set it to the value of 'pid' in
# the stunnel.conf file.
#
. /etc/rc.subr
name="stunnel"
rcvar=`set_rcvar`
load_rc_config $name
: ${stunnel_enable="NO"}
: ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"}
: ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"}
command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel"
command_args=${stunnel_config}
pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile}
required_files="${stunnel_config}"
run_rc_command "$1"
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On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./=
=20
>> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them=
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>> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
>=20
> I expect you need something like:
>=20
> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
Or install the GNU grep (from the man)
-R, -r, --recursive
Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is
equivalent to the -d recurse option.
> Bill
cheers
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Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:
> On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>>> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path .=
/=20
>>> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting the=
m.
>>> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
>> I expect you need something like:
>>
>> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
>=20
> Or install the GNU grep (from the man)
>=20
> -R, -r, --recursive
> Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is
> equivalent to the -d recurse option.
The system supplied grep(1) /is/ gnu grep:
happy-idiot-talk:~:% grep --version=20
grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1-FreeBSD
Copyright 1988, 1992-1999, 2000, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO=
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOS=
E.
grep -r works just fine.
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"Christian Walther" <cptsalek@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/6/8 Fabian Keil <freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de>:
> > "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" <hagge.lists@intercorner.net> wrote:
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> [...]
> > Just in case you assume that ZFS on OpenSolaris 2008.05
> > would be superior to ZFS on FreeBSD, this hasn't been my
> > experience.
> >
> > On a system with an Athlon 1700+ and only 512 MB of RAM,
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> > much useless.
> >
> > On FreeBSD ZFS operations can cause delays as well, but it's
> > significantly better than on OpenSolaris, even though FreeBSD's
> > ZFS pool lies on a geli-encrypted gmirror while OpenSolaris uses
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> >
> This hasn't anything to do with ZFS but on the different configuration
> of the clockrate. FreeBSD uses 1000 ticks, while it's 500 on Solaris.
With OpenSolaris 2008.05 the GUI becomes unresponsive for
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Just upgraded stunnel and getting the following error message in the
/var/log/messages file. It appears that when I restart stunnel it
complains "Error binding pop3s to 0.0.0.0:995 and bind: Address already
in use (48)". therefore the 995 port never becomes available during the
restart. Why is that happening? She the stunel logs below.
any clues?
---- snip ---
Jun 8 13:17:04 stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file
descriptor
Jun 8 13:17:34 last message repeated 530400 times
Jun 8 13:18:00 last message repeated 488687 times
---- snip ---
---- here is the stunnel.log -----
n# tail -n 50 -f /var/log/stunnel.log
Jun 8 00:00:00 typhoon newsyslog[72831]: logfile turned over
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Snagged 64 random bytes from
/root/.rnd
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes
to /root/.rnd
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: RAND_status claims sufficient
entropy for the PRNG
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: PRNG seeded successfully
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate:
/usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate loaded
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Key file:
/usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Private key loaded
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SSL context initialized for
service pop3s
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: stunnel 4.25 on
i386-unknown-freebsd6.2 with OpenSSL 0.9.8h 28 May 2008
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: Threading:PTHREAD SSL:ENGINE
Sockets:POLL,IPv6 Auth:LIBWRAP
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: file ulimit = 11095 (can be
changed with 'ulimit -n')
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: poll() used - no FD_SETSIZE
limit for file descriptors
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: 5417 clients allowed
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 5 in non-blocking mode
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 6 in non-blocking mode
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 7 in non-blocking mode
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on
accept socket
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: Error binding pop3s to
0.0.0.0:995
2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: bind: Address already in use (48)
--- configuration -------
# cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf
# Sample stunnel configuration file
# Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002
# Comment it out on Win32
cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
chroot = /var/run/stunnel
#chroot = /var/run
# PID is created inside chroot jail
pid = /stunnel.pid
setuid = stunnel
setgid = stunnel
# grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf
stunnel_enable="YES"
# cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel
#!/bin/sh
#
# $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26
14:18:12 roam Exp $
#
# PROVIDE: stunnel
# REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS
# BEFORE: DAEMON
# KEYWORD: shutdown
#
# Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure stunnel:
# stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default.
# Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel.
# stunnel_config (str): Default
"/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf"
# Set it to the full path to the config file
# that stunnel will use during the automated
# start-up.
# stunnel_pidfile (str): Default "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid"
# Set it to the value of 'pid' in
# the stunnel.conf file.
#
. /etc/rc.subr
name="stunnel"
rcvar=`set_rcvar`
load_rc_config $name
: ${stunnel_enable="NO"}
: ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"}
: ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"}
command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel"
command_args=${stunnel_config}
pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile}
required_files="${stunnel_config}"
run_rc_command "$1"
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Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./
> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them.
> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
>
> -- Jos
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You want it to report the files in which the string was found?
grep -rl <pattern> <path>
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:23:19PM +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:
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> On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> >> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./
> >> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them.
> >> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
> >
> > I expect you need something like:
> >
> > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
>
> Or install the GNU grep (from the man)
>
> -R, -r, --recursive
> Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is
> equivalent to the -d recurse option.
>
What's gained from GNU grep? FreeBSD grep, automatically recurses in
to each subdir unless given the -maxdepth option.
Looks like FreeBSD grep wins (one less argument needed) ;)
> > Bill
>
> cheers
> Simon
>
>
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--On June 8, 2008 1:12:56 PM -0700 Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com>=20
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> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./
>> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them.
>> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
>
> I expect you need something like:
>
> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
>
Or just grep -r string path
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> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:23:19PM +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle wrote:
> >
> > On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> > >> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path ./
> > >> and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting them.
> > >> Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
> > >
> > > I expect you need something like:
> > >
> > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
> >
> > Or install the GNU grep (from the man)
> >
> > -R, -r, --recursive
> > Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is
> > equivalent to the -d recurse option.
> >
>
> What's gained from GNU grep? FreeBSD grep, automatically recurses in
> to each subdir unless given the -maxdepth option.
>
> Looks like FreeBSD grep wins (one less argument needed) ;)
Sorry, got confused between grep and xargs!
>
> Regards,
>
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Jack Raats wrote:
> after upgrade 6.3 to 7.0 mergemaster didn't do the job properly
> After a normal reboot I get a lot of Warnings like
> /etc/rc: WARNING: $variable_enable is not set properly - see rc.conf(5)
>
> HOw to solve this problem???
>
> Thanks
>
> Jack
Rerun mergemaster.
When it asks you to [i]nstall the new /etc/defaults/rc.conf, [m]erge it
or leave it for later. Choose i.
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> > As you might have read, I have quite a lot of RAM available on this
> > server (4GB), but ofcource I want the operating system to take as
> > little as possible so that I have as much RAM as possible over for
> > the server processes to work with (mostly web-server and
> > mysql-server).
>
> ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for
> actual work ;)
Bollocks.
It consumes memory. The more seperate filesystems, the more memory. But
don't execurate. For a webserver on zfs 4GB is more than enough.
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> > receiving snapshots on OpenSolaris renders the GUI pretty
> > much useless.
>
> looks like very bad CPU and I/O scheduling on Solaris.
> maybe that's their 32-64 hardware threads capable chip is advertised
> so much? :)
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You don't have to like solaris but don't troll about it, please.
Both systems have their pro's and cons.
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> while i don't use it, it works rather as in manual. no crashes if
> configured right.
> that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all.
> it's just memory and CPU eater.
Your entitled to your opinion, but please try to base it on some facts.
ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try
to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at
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I just discovered that firefox can save motion video
in addition to displaying it. But I don't know how
to play back the saved video.cgi file. Mplayer
complains about missing configuration data.
Does anyone know how to play back the file saved
by firefox?
Is there some other mailing list to which I should
post this question?
Thanks,
Dave Feustel
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>> This hasn't anything to do with ZFS but on the different configuration
>> of the clockrate. FreeBSD uses 1000 ticks, while it's 500 on Solaris.
>
> With OpenSolaris 2008.05 the GUI becomes unresponsive for
> multiple-seconds on my system, and it's not clear to me
> how the clock rate difference would explain that.
no. it's just because of scheduling and I/O algorithms used in solaris.
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>> ZFS is memory and CPU eater. prepare that very few will be left for
>> actual work ;)
>
> Bollocks.
> It consumes memory. The more seperate filesystems, the more memory. But
> don't execurate. For a webserver on zfs 4GB is more than enough.
still enough for UFS with softupdates - which is REALLY fast.
you may set kern.maxvnodes much higher to speed it up even more.
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>> configured right.
>
>> that's just my opinion about ZFS that it isn't very useful at all.
>> it's just memory and CPU eater.
>
> Your entitled to your opinion, but please try to base it on some facts.
> ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try
AFAIK there are no plans to FORCE using ZFS instead of UFS in FreeBSD.
or there are? if so - fine time to check something else.
> to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at
yes i am.
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> ZFS is herre to stay. You better get used to it. at least you could try
> to work with it before you make up an opinion. Have you -any- idea at
> all what this FS is capable off?
if you like - quick summary
1) ZFS "turns random writes into sequential writes" as they say. yes
that's true. they just forgot to say that it then turns sequential reads
into random reads. simple for anyone that still can use his/her brain.
2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both on read
and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you random read
speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow random write speeds (but
still at least half of single drive). but this is advertised as a feature
3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all
blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can
turn this off
4) write anywhere style of writing, just with large buffers it could get
large blocks to be written at once if only large continous space are
found.
quite good (but not that much better than UFS) as long as your drive is
mostly empty.
5) incredibly high memory consumption. very high CPU consumption compared
to UFS.
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> Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and
> 'make -j4 buildworld' ?
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fyi, the below is from /usr/src/UPDATING:
COMMON ITEMS:
General Notes
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Avoid using make -j when upgrading. From time to time in the
past there have been problems using -j with buildworld and/or
installworld. This is especially true when upgrading between
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or several minor releases, or when several months have passed
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
There's no more need for find | xargs
Try:=20
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>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
>
>There's no more need for find | xargs
>
>Try:
>
>find . -type -f -exec grep <grepoptions> <text to search> {} \+
>
>-exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo
>-exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file
The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while
xargs batches the files.
This is of particular importance if one wants to see the file
names in the output. In relation to this, if one wants to be
sure that grep always generates the file name, insure that it
always gets at least two files as arguments:
find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern /dev/null
FWIW, I have learned about gnu-grep's -r option reading this
thread, which I had not noticed previously. I guess that just
goes to show that old habits die hard :-).
Bill
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Way cool! I hadn't known that about find(1).
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In the last episode (Jun 09), Ivan Voras said:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > 2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both
> > on read and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you
> > random read speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow
> > random write speeds (but still at least half of single drive). but
> > this is advertised as a feature
>
> Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all
> components) or something else? Any documentation/references?
RAID-Z stores a single checksum over the whole stripe, instead of
checksumming each disks's section separately, so it has to read from
all disks to validate the stripe. Only random reads are penalized,
though.
http://blogs.sun.com/roch/entry/when_to_and_not_to
--
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Hi,
I have installed mplayer-0.99.10_14 and mplayerplug-in-3.45 using packages
on my 7.0-RELEASE machine which runs Firefox 2.0.0.12. I am not able to see
*some* online content, though, and I couldn't find any pattern.
For example, going to http://www.davidgilmour.com/dvd.htm , I can see the
Windows Media streams (both low and high resolution versions), but QuickTime
and Real Player streams are not played at all --- a new tab opens in
Firefox, and I see "Getting playlist..." and "Connecting to server..."
messages, but then it says "Stopped" and that's it!
But, if I go to http://www.satriani.com/podcast/Satchafunkilus/ and click on
any of the podcasts (they are in .m4v which, if I'm not mistaken, is just a
container for QuickTime .mov videos), mplayerplug-in plays them flawlessly.
Another example for QuickTime is
http://www.vai.com/SightsSounds/video_vault/index.html where all the videos
can be played perfectly.
As for Real Player, I see watch BBC Persian website's videos in Windows
Media (e.g. this one about Euro2008 games
http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/meta/dps/2008/06/bb/080606_op-euro2008_16x9_bb.asx),
but if I choose Real Player as my format, I can only hear the sound
and
no video is played!
I would appreciate any help :)
Thanks a lot
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Brian wrote:
> Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>> Can someone tell me the difference between 'make -j2 buildworld' and
>> 'make -j4 buildworld' ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jos
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> fyi, the below is from /usr/src/UPDATING:
>
> COMMON ITEMS:
>
> General Notes
> -------------
> Avoid using make -j when upgrading. From time to time in the
> past there have been problems using -j with buildworld and/or
> installworld. This is especially true when upgrading between
> "distant" versions (eg one that cross a major release boundary
> or several minor releases, or when several months have passed
> on the -current branch).
I really don't think that's a fault of make(1), it's a fault of the Makefiles,
which have to be written very carefully so that having multiple parallel
processes going might screw up building. Yes, it has done that in the past, but
it's an occaisonal thing, not a regular thing, because there's a good number of
folks who build there kernels with something like -j4. I often do. One just
has to be really awake when you hit a problem, or when reporting a build
error... rebuild without the -jN.
I did some testing, at least for me, I get the most improvements when the number
of cores or processors equals the -j number. You can make it higher, even
double it, withoout hurting things, but 95% of the improvements come from
matching the number of processes to the number of available CPUs (and that' by
my own testing, not theory).
Still, if you aren't willing to do your won troubleshooting, best to avoid using
- -j anything. It's very easy to screw up.
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--- On Tue, 6/3/08, Schiz0 <schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual
> Private Network
> on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system ....
Hi
I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD
For our team, it's been rock solid
I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking a little for BSD
I can send you my personal BSD related notes if you like
Take care
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Hello,
I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD machine in
the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, I tried so that I
could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No problem I thought, his
modem has a different IP than the one I have in my /etc/hosts file, but this
turned to not be the case.
Well, after some digging, I did a traceroute to his IP address. The packets
went all over the place, from San Jose, to Colorado, back to San Jose, to
Colorado then to Ohio, then to Denver, then to San Jose, then to Ohio, etc.
(you get the idea). Eventually, traceroute was just lost and confused and I
hit ctrl-c. Thinking the problem would work itself out, I decided to wait
and try again tonight however, I'm having the same problem tonight.
Obviously, though, I can use my Internet connection (after all, the
e-mail . . .), but why can't I get to his IP address. For kicks and grins
tonight, I logged onto my DSL modem and looked at it's routing table. I
found some interesting information.
First, my DSL modems IP is 71.221.172.38, however, the default route appears
to be 67.41.38.201. Obviously, I've got to cross at least one network to get
to this default route in the first place. I'm assuming this is the default
route because it appears in the routing table as such:
dest netmask gateway
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 67.41.38.201
Now, here's the output of traceroute (with name resolution turned off):
[/usr/home/andy]
-> traceroute -n 67.41.38.201
traceroute to 67.41.38.201 (67.41.38.201), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 * * *
2 67.41.38.201 40.303 ms * 39.421 ms
Why on earth would there be delays on the first hop when not using name
resolution?
Ok, now my machines setup: my DSL modem is the router (as you all knew). It
also acts as a DHCP server but my FreeBSD machine is setup as static IP. The
local, private, IP network is 192.168.0.0/24 with the DSL modem as
192.168.0.1 and my box is statically assigned 192.168.0.10.
Any thoughts as what might be wrong on my end before I start bugging my ISP?
Thanks,
Andy
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On Sunday 08 June 2008 23:07:28 Steve Quinn wrote:
> --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Schiz0 <schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual
> > Private Network
> > on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system ....
>
> Hi
>
> I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD
> For our team, it's been rock solid
>
> I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking
> a little for BSD
>
> I can send you my personal BSD related notes if you like
>
> Take care
>
> Steve
Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at where they are at !
I'm sure more people than you can think of will find them usefull.
I, for once, could really use them :)
Thanks in advanced
--
Blessings
Gonzalo Nemmi
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Hi,
Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
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Thanks :)
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:04:14AM -0300, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote:
> On Sunday 08 June 2008 23:07:28 Steve Quinn wrote:
> > --- On Tue, 6/3/08, Schiz0 <schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual
> > > Private Network
> > > on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system ....
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD
> > For our team, it's been rock solid
> >
> > I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking
> > a little for BSD
> >
> > I can send you my personal BSD related notes if you like
> >
> > Take care
> >
> > Steve
>
> Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at where they are at !
> I'm sure more people than you can think of will find them usefull.
> I, for once, could really use them :)
>
> Thanks in advanced
> --
> Blessings
> Gonzalo Nemmi
I second this request. I am getting ready to implement a VPN for a
small company and any extra documentation I can get would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards,
~Jason
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On Sat, Jun 07, 2008, Yuri wrote:
> Hi Jyun-Yi,
>
> With these environment variables prompt window pops up from QT apps but
> editboxes don't get selected word.
> Also all GTK applications begin to speak Chinese.
How about,
unset LC_ALL
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export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8
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What im trying to figure out is the best way to install the OS on a
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I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software related???
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Subject: Re: Whine when EHCI controller enabled in BIOS
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:40:17PM -0600, James wrote:
> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once
> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
>
> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
>
> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software related???
I can't imagine this is a software issue. Sounds strange. Have you
tried to see if it isn't a fan issue? We have some Dell GX280s with a
bad batch of motherboards at my university---under specific conditions
(e.g., using certain video cards) the system fan will spin up 'til the
system sounds like it's about to take off.
Good luck,
~Jason
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Subject: Re: PXE booting 7.0-R
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Hi =0Atry using this lines in your /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf instead of you=
rs :=0Asubnet=A0[your subnet IP] netmask=A0[your netmask] {=0A=A0 range [st=
art range] [finish range];=0A=A0 next-server [your PXE server IP];=0A=A0 fi=
lename "pxeboot";=0A=A0 option root-path "[your Root server IP (if you moun=
t your server root its obvious that your server IP)]:/";=0A}=0A=0Aand you s=
hould make change in your /etc/inetd.conf and comment out this line :=0Atft=
p=A0=A0 dgram=A0=A0 udp wait=A0=A0=A0 root=A0=A0=A0 /usr/libexec/tftpd=A0 t=
ftpd -l -s /tftpboot/=0Aplace your pxeboot and loader in /tftpboot/ and reb=
oot your system =0Ait should solve your problem =0Abut if you want to use t=
ftp instead of nfs you should make your pxeboot and loader using tftp enabl=
e to do this you can read this article :=0Ahttp://www.ultradesic.com/index.=
php?section=3D72=0Abut there is a mistake in this article : =0Aafter you ma=
ke new files are place here :=0Apxeboot : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/px=
eldr/=0Aloader : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/=0Aand you should ex=
port / and all its directory for successful loading . for more information =
you can read this article too.=0Ahttp://www.ultradesic.com/?section=3D144=
=0AI hope you make it =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: CZUCZY Gergely=
<phoemix@harmless.hu>=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Friday, =
June 6, 2008 1:17:08 PM=0ASubject: PXE booting 7.0-R=0A=0AHello,=0A=0AI'm t=
rying to PXE boot 7.0-RELEASE, but it stops at a time.=0A=0AAt boot I see t=
he following on the screen:=0ABIOS drive C: is disk0=0ABIOS drive D: is dis=
k1=0A=0APXE version 2.1, real mode entry point @9188:0106=0ABIOS 517kB/3406=
144kB available memory=0A=0AFreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A(=
toor@myplace, date)=0Apxe_open: server addr: 10.0.0.1=0Apxe_open: serve pat=
h: /wwwbladebsd/=0Apxe_open: gateway ip: 10.0.0.1=0AConsoles: internal vide=
o/keybaord=0ABIOS drive C: is disk0=0ABIOS drive D: is diskl=0ABIOS 517kB/3=
406144kB available memory=0A=0AFreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=
=0A(toor@myplace, date)=0ACan't work out which disk we are booting from.=0A=
Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to disk0=0A=
=0Acan't loader 'kernel'=0A=0AType '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for m=
ore detailed help.=0AOK lsdev=0Acd devices:=0Adisk devices:=0Adisk0: BIOS d=
rive C:=0Adisk1: BIOS drive D:=0Apxe devices:=0A=0Aon the server I see t se=
rving pxeboot via tftp, and mounting the root via NFS:=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:22 =
nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:22=
nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6=
11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:=
00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30=
:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2221]: Serving /bsd/px=
eboot to 10.0.0.32:2070=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2222]: Serving /bsd/=
pxeboot to 10.0.0.32:2071=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from =
00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on 10.0=
.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPREQU=
EST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=A0 6 11:=
38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0AJun=
=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs mountd[2120]: authenticated mount request from 10.0.0.32=
:1023 for /wwwbladebsd (/wwwbladebsd) (around 30-40 from these NFS mount me=
ssages in the log).=0A=0AThe NFS server is a linux box right now.=0A=0AThe =
dhcpd.conf:=0Ahost blade1 {=0A=A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;=0A=
=A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32;=0A=A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";=0A=A0 filename "=
/bsd/pxeboot";=0A=A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;=0A=A0 option root-path "/wwwblad=
ebsd/";=0A}=0A=0Ai'm using "atftpd" with /tftpboot as root directory. /tftp=
boot/bsd/ is a=0Asymlink to the root system's /boot .=0A=0AI've NFS-exporte=
d /wwwbladebsd/, and that seems to work.=0A=0AThe question is, why loader i=
s unable to load the kernel?=0AHow could I force the loader to use tftp ins=
tead of NFS?=0A=0AOr using any other solutions, how can I make this box boo=
t?=0AIf I've left out outsomething from here, please tell me, I will post i=
t.=0A=0AThanks in advance.=0A=0A=0A-- =0ASincerely,=0A=0AGergely CZUCZY=0AH=
armless Digital Bt=0Amailto: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu=0ATel: +36-30-97029=
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Subject: Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to
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Edward G.J. Lee wrote:
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> unset LC_ALL
> unset LANG
> export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8
>
Thank you Edward,
Now gcin menu is shown from QT app and all apps still speak English.
But the problem is that selected Chinese character doesn't appear in the
editbox in QT applications.
Yuri
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Subject: Re: Input method doesn't work with QT applications. Anyone able to
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Yuri wrote:
> Edward G.J. Lee wrote:
> >
> > unset LC_ALL
> > unset LANG
> > export LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.UTF-8
> >
>
> Thank you Edward,
>
> Now gcin menu is shown from QT app and all apps still speak English.
> But the problem is that selected Chinese character doesn't appear in the
> editbox in QT applications.
Your qt app and gcin must start via zh_TW.UTF-8 environment.
We don't have qt immodule in gcin ports yet.
Edward
ps. You need XIM when you use qt app. In ~/.bash_profile,
export QT_IM_MODULE=xim
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> I did some testing, at least for me, I get the most improvements when the number
> of cores or processors equals the -j number. You can make it higher, even
> double it, withoout hurting things, but 95% of the improvements come from
> matching the number of processes to the number of available CPUs (and that' by
> my own testing, not theory).
I've found that on my Q6600 (quad core) system, the optimal is 8
though the improvements after 5 were minimal. It depends if the jobs
are I/O bound or not and the scheduler. Although even with ffmpeg, the
optimal number of threads with this quad core system is 8. On my
previous system with a dual-core chip with the same hardware, the
"magic number" was 4 (again, 2x the number of cores). This was with
the ULE scheduler, I'm not sure if the same holds true for the 4BSD
scheduler or not.
And as you said, it's important to use make without -j if the build
fails before reporting bugs, since there are no guarantees that world
will build properly with multiple jobs.
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I just switched machines and want to force thunderbird to download
everything in my "All Mail" folder on gmail.... I tried unreading and/or
moving it to my inbox and tb still only dl'ed stuff that was newer then
the last time I downloaded last... any ideas?
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hi again=0Ayou said you use freebsd 7.0 so I told you to do these in freebs=
d ( that you install dhcp on it!!! to the end I call it pxeserver) not on y=
our Linux Server(and to the end I call your server that you want to boot fr=
om and mount its / FileServer)!!!=0Ayour dhcpd.conf is :=0A> host blade1 {=
=0A> =A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;=0A> =A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.=
32;=0A> =A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";=0AI dont use it and nothing happend=0A>=
=A0 filename "/bsd/pxeboot";=0Ayou should=A0place pxeboot where you specif=
y as root-path and write here "pxeboot"=0A> =A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;=0A> =
=A0 option root-path "/wwwbladebsd/";=0Ayou should specify your root-path a=
s follow : [FileServer IP]:/=0AI use "/" because I couldn`t use any path an=
d admonish you not to try anywhere else because it doesn`t work!!!=0A> }=0A=
after these you should edit inetd in your pxeserver (freebsd) =0Aand you sh=
ould make your pxeboot again if you want to use tftp that briefly explain i=
n that article =0Aplease do=A0above steps exactly and=A0I hope you make it =
!!!=0Athese are my 3 months of working on freebsd for pxeboot=0A=0A=0A-----=
Original Message ----=0AFrom: CZUCZY Gergely <gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu>=
=0ATo: mohammad khatibi <mo_kh118@yahoo.com>=0ACc: CZUCZY Gergely <phoemix@=
harmless.hu>=0ASent: Monday, June 9, 2008 8:56:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: PXE boo=
ting 7.0-R=0A=0AOn Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:57 -0700 (PDT)=0Amohammad khatibi =
<mo_kh118@yahoo.com> wrote:=0A=0A> Hi =0A> try using this lines in your /us=
r/local/etc/dhcpd.conf instead of=0A> yours : subnet=A0[your subnet IP] net=
mask=A0[your netmask] {=0A> =A0 range [start range] [finish range];=0A> =A0=
next-server [your PXE server IP];=0A> =A0 filename "pxeboot";=0A> =A0 opti=
on root-path "[your Root server IP (if you mount your server=0A> root its o=
bvious that your server IP)]:/"; }=0AYes, I was exactly using these options=
.=0A=0A> =0A> and you should make change in your /etc/inetd.conf and commen=
t out=0A> this line : tftp=A0=A0 dgram=A0=A0 udp wait=A0=A0=A0 root=A0=A0=
=A0 /usr/libexec/tftpd=0A> tftpd -l -s /tftpboot/ place your pxeboot and lo=
ader in /tftpboot/=0A> and reboot your system it should solve your problem =
=0ASorry, but you've failed here.=0A1) I stated the NFS(also tftp) server i=
s Linux, and I'm not using it=0Afrom inetd.=0A2) I wasn't asking how are _y=
ou_ doing it, the question was, what's=0Awrong with my setup. (After I know=
what's wrong I can fix it myself,=0Athanks)=0A3) I've read articles, manua=
ls, etc. I have a problem with it, it's not=0Aworking as it's supposed to.=
=0A=0AAnyways, thanks for your efforts.=0A=0A> but if you want to use tftp =
instead of nfs you should make your=0A> pxeboot and loader using tftp enabl=
e to do this you can read this=0A> article : http://www.ultradesic.com/inde=
x.php?section=3D72 but there is=0A> a mistake in this article : after you m=
ake new files are place here :=0A> pxeboot : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386=
/pxeldr/=0A> loader : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/=0A> and you sh=
ould export / and all its directory for successful=0A> loading . for more i=
nformation you can read this article too.=0A> http://www.ultradesic.com/?se=
ction=3D144 I hope you make it =0A> ----- Original Message ----=0A> From: C=
ZUCZY Gergely <phoemix@harmless.hu>=0A> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=
=0A> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 1:17:08 PM=0A> Subject: PXE booting 7.0-R=
=0A> =0A> Hello,=0A> =0A> I'm trying to PXE boot 7.0-RELEASE, but it stops =
at a time.=0A> =0A> At boot I see the following on the screen:=0A> BIOS dri=
ve C: is disk0=0A> BIOS drive D: is disk1=0A> =0A> PXE version 2.1, real mo=
de entry point @9188:0106=0A> BIOS 517kB/3406144kB available memory=0A> =0A=
> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A> (toor@myplace, date)=0A> =
pxe_open: server addr: 10.0.0.1=0A> pxe_open: serve path: /wwwbladebsd/=0A>=
pxe_open: gateway ip: 10.0.0.1=0A> Consoles: internal video/keybaord=0A> B=
IOS drive C: is disk0=0A> BIOS drive D: is diskl=0A> BIOS 517kB/3406144kB a=
vailable memory=0A> =0A> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1=0A> (t=
oor@myplace, date)=0A> Can't work out which disk we are booting from.=0A> G=
uessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to=0A> disk0=
=0A> =0A> can't loader 'kernel'=0A> =0A> Type '?' for a list of commands, '=
help' for more detailed help.=0A> OK lsdev=0A> cd devices:=0A> disk devices=
:=0A> disk0: BIOS drive C:=0A> disk1: BIOS drive D:=0A> pxe devices:=0A> =
=0A> on the server I see t serving pxeboot via tftp, and mounting the root=
=0A> via NFS: Jun=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from=0A> 00:30:48:8=
d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on=0A> 10.0.0.32 to=
00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd:=0A> DHCPREQUEST fo=
r 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0A> Jun=A0 6 11:38:2=
4 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36=0A> via eth1 Jun=A0 =
6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2221]: Serving /bsd/pxeboot to=0A> 10.0.0.32:2070 Jun=
=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2222]: Serving /bsd/pxeboot=0A> to 10.0.0.32:2071=
Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from=0A> 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via e=
th1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on=0A> 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:=
00:36 via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd:=0A> DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (=
10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1=0A> Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: =
DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36=0A> via eth1 Jun=A0 6 11:38:25 nf=
s mountd[2120]: authenticated mount=0A> request from 10.0.0.32:1023 for /ww=
wbladebsd (/wwwbladebsd) (around=0A> 30-40 from these NFS mount messages in=
the log).=0A> =0A> The NFS server is a linux box right now.=0A> =0A> The d=
hcpd.conf:=0A> host blade1 {=0A> =A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;=
=0A> =A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32;=0A> =A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";=0A> =A0 f=
ilename "/bsd/pxeboot";=0A> =A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;=0A> =A0 option root-p=
ath "/wwwbladebsd/";=0A> }=0A> =0A> i'm using "atftpd" with /tftpboot as ro=
ot directory. /tftpboot/bsd/=0A> is a symlink to the root system's /boot .=
=0A> =0A> I've NFS-exported /wwwbladebsd/, and that seems to work.=0A> =0A>=
The question is, why loader is unable to load the kernel?=0A> How could I =
force the loader to use tftp instead of NFS?=0A> =0A> Or using any other so=
lutions, how can I make this box boot?=0A> If I've left out outsomething fr=
om here, please tell me, I will post=0A> it.=0A> =0A> Thanks in advance.=0A=
> =0A> =0A=0A=0A-- =0A=0ASincerely,=0A=0AGergely CZUCZY,=0AHarmless Digital=
=0Amailto: gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu=0A=0ALegacy software is software that=
works.=0A=0A=0A=0A
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--- On Sun, 6/8/08, Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please _do_ send them to this list or throw a pointer at
> where they are at !
> I'm sure more people than you can think of will find
> them usefull.
> I, for once, could really use them :)
>
Hi Gonzalo, all
I knew I should have done that in the first place, sorry :-)
They were embarrassingly messy so I resisted
I just fixed them up a bit
I hope they can be of help
See OpenVPN from http://www.isgsp.net/freebsd/index.html
Take care
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I've tried also specifing the IP for root-path, but as it seems, the hosts
defaults to server-name or next-server (these are the same for me), so it's=
not
neccessery to specify the IP in root-path.
Also the fileserver and the dhcp server are the same. You should have seen =
this
in the included config I gave.
Furthermore, meanwhile we've noticed that loader fails to get the pxe varia=
bles
when the onboard raid is enabled, and it notices the PXE environment when t=
he
disks are not included in any RAID setups. Quite strange.
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
mohammad khatibi <mo_kh118@yahoo.com> wrote:
> hi again
> you said you use freebsd 7.0 so I told you to do these in freebsd ( that =
you
> install dhcp on it!!! to the end I call it pxeserver) not on your Linux
> Server(and to the end I call your server that you want to boot from and m=
ount
> its / FileServer)!!! your dhcpd.conf is :
> > host blade1 {
> > =C2=A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;
> > =C2=A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32;
> > =C2=A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";
> I dont use it and nothing happend
> > =C2=A0 filename "/bsd/pxeboot";
> you should=C2=A0place pxeboot where you specify as root-path and write he=
re
> "pxeboot"
> > =C2=A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;
> > =C2=A0 option root-path "/wwwbladebsd/";
> you should specify your root-path as follow : [FileServer IP]:/
> I use "/" because I couldn`t use any path and admonish you not to try
> anywhere else because it doesn`t work!!!
> > }
> after these you should edit inetd in your pxeserver (freebsd)=20
> and you should make your pxeboot again if you want to use tftp that brief=
ly
> explain in that article please do=C2=A0above steps exactly and=C2=A0I hop=
e you make
> it !!! these are my 3 months of working on freebsd for pxeboot
>=20
>=20
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: CZUCZY Gergely <gergely.czuczy@harmless.hu>
> To: mohammad khatibi <mo_kh118@yahoo.com>
> Cc: CZUCZY Gergely <phoemix@harmless.hu>
> Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 8:56:47 AM
> Subject: Re: PXE booting 7.0-R
>=20
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:34:57 -0700 (PDT)
> mohammad khatibi <mo_kh118@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> > Hi=20
> > try using this lines in your /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf instead of
> > yours : subnet=C2=A0[your subnet IP] netmask=C2=A0[your netmask] {
> > =C2=A0 range [start range] [finish range];
> > =C2=A0 next-server [your PXE server IP];
> > =C2=A0 filename "pxeboot";
> > =C2=A0 option root-path "[your Root server IP (if you mount your server
> > root its obvious that your server IP)]:/"; }
> Yes, I was exactly using these options.
>=20
> >=20
> > and you should make change in your /etc/inetd.conf and comment out
> > this line : tftp=C2=A0=C2=A0 dgram=C2=A0=C2=A0 udp wait=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 root=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 /usr/libexec/tftpd
> > tftpd -l -s /tftpboot/ place your pxeboot and loader in /tftpboot/
> > and reboot your system it should solve your problem=20
> Sorry, but you've failed here.
> 1) I stated the NFS(also tftp) server is Linux, and I'm not using it
> from inetd.
> 2) I wasn't asking how are _you_ doing it, the question was, what's
> wrong with my setup. (After I know what's wrong I can fix it myself,
> thanks)
> 3) I've read articles, manuals, etc. I have a problem with it, it's not
> working as it's supposed to.
>=20
> Anyways, thanks for your efforts.
>=20
> > but if you want to use tftp instead of nfs you should make your
> > pxeboot and loader using tftp enable to do this you can read this
> > article : http://www.ultradesic.com/index.php?section=3D72 but there is
> > a mistake in this article : after you make new files are place here :
> > pxeboot : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/
> > loader : /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/
> > and you should export / and all its directory for successful
> > loading . for more information you can read this article too.
> > http://www.ultradesic.com/?section=3D144 I hope you make it=20
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: CZUCZY Gergely <phoemix@harmless.hu>
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 1:17:08 PM
> > Subject: PXE booting 7.0-R
> >=20
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > I'm trying to PXE boot 7.0-RELEASE, but it stops at a time.
> >=20
> > At boot I see the following on the screen:
> > BIOS drive C: is disk0
> > BIOS drive D: is disk1
> >=20
> > PXE version 2.1, real mode entry point @9188:0106
> > BIOS 517kB/3406144kB available memory
> >=20
> > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
> > (toor@myplace, date)
> > pxe_open: server addr: 10.0.0.1
> > pxe_open: serve path: /wwwbladebsd/
> > pxe_open: gateway ip: 10.0.0.1
> > Consoles: internal video/keybaord
> > BIOS drive C: is disk0
> > BIOS drive D: is diskl
> > BIOS 517kB/3406144kB available memory
> >=20
> > FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
> > (toor@myplace, date)
> > Can't work out which disk we are booting from.
> > Guessed BIOS device 0xffffffff not found by probes, defaulting to
> > disk0
> >=20
> > can't loader 'kernel'
> >=20
> > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help.
> > OK lsdev
> > cd devices:
> > disk devices:
> > disk0: BIOS drive C:
> > disk1: BIOS drive D:
> > pxe devices:
> >=20
> > on the server I see t serving pxeboot via tftp, and mounting the root
> > via NFS: Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from
> > 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:22 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on
> > 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd:
> > DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1
> > Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:=
36
> > via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2221]: Serving /bsd/pxeboot to
> > 10.0.0.32:2070 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:24 nfs atftpd[2222]: Serving /bsd/pxeb=
oot
> > to 10.0.0.32:2071 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from
> > 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPOFFER on
> > 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd:
> > DHCPREQUEST for 10.0.0.32 (10.0.0.1) from 00:30:48:8d:00:36 via eth1
> > Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs dhcpd: DHCPACK on 10.0.0.32 to 00:30:48:8d:00:=
36
> > via eth1 Jun=C2=A0 6 11:38:25 nfs mountd[2120]: authenticated mount
> > request from 10.0.0.32:1023 for /wwwbladebsd (/wwwbladebsd) (around
> > 30-40 from these NFS mount messages in the log).
> >=20
> > The NFS server is a linux box right now.
> >=20
> > The dhcpd.conf:
> > host blade1 {
> > =C2=A0 hardware ethernet 00:30:48:8d:00:36;
> > =C2=A0 fixed-address 10.0.0.32;
> > =C2=A0 server-name "10.0.0.1";
> > =C2=A0 filename "/bsd/pxeboot";
> > =C2=A0 next-server 10.0.0.1;
> > =C2=A0 option root-path "/wwwbladebsd/";
> > }
> >=20
> > i'm using "atftpd" with /tftpboot as root directory. /tftpboot/bsd/
> > is a symlink to the root system's /boot .
> >=20
> > I've NFS-exported /wwwbladebsd/, and that seems to work.
> >=20
> > The question is, why loader is unable to load the kernel?
> > How could I force the loader to use tftp instead of NFS?
> >=20
> > Or using any other solutions, how can I make this box boot?
> > If I've left out outsomething from here, please tell me, I will post
> > it.
> >=20
> > Thanks in advance.
> >=20
> >=20
>=20
>=20
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> I've recently implemented OpenVPN under FreeBSD
> For our team, it's been rock solid
>
> I found the OpenVPN docs were excellent for Windohs/Linux but were lacking a little for BSD
>
while i don't know openvpn i use mpd (for windows interoperability) and
vtun (for unix only) both works excellent.
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> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>
>> 2) ZFS RAID-z turns your X drives to single drive performance both on read
>> and write. every normal RAID-5 implementation will give you random read
>> speed of X-1 times single drive speed, while slow random write speeds (but
>> still at least half of single drive). but this is advertised as a feature
>
> Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all components) or
nothing to checksum. sit down for a while and think.
you have say 100 MB file linearly placed on position A on disk.
and your program requests 100kB writes to possitions like 200kB*(between 0 and 499) randomly.
ZFS will cache all it then blow all this as 50MB linear write" at
position B on disk.
then after some time (data not in cache) you like to read file linearly.
what you get:
read 100kB from position B, seek to position A to read 100kB, then to
position B reading 100kB, then to position A etc. etc.
LOTS of seeking.
while reads are more common than writes on most cases ZFS make things
worse.
of course i told about good case where ZFS could find large continous
space. if your drive is well filled it's unlikely.
with UFS disk is divided for cylinder groups. so too - it's unlikely you
will find large continuous space BUT there are very likely you will find
large chunk of fragments withing same cylinder group which requires
much shorter head movement. while really big blocks are forcibly splitted
to different cylinder group, as having long seek every few megabytes isn't
a problem.
that's what UFS does for 20 years. the major improvement then was soft
updates, now it is really fast even with small files.
i just skipped talking about memory and CPU usage, because there is
nothing to talk much. it's just make ZFS crap and nothing else.
Today most people's problem are TOO FAST CPU and TOO MUCH MEMORY.Sun found
the solution, just like windows.
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> What im trying to figure out is the best way to install the OS on a compact
> flash, put it as read only, then install a 2nd HDD to store the mysql
> data,etc. What is the best way to do this?
you have to use tmpfs for /tmp, /var/tmp, /var/run and probably /var/log.
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>>> random write speeds (but still at least half of single drive). but
>>> this is advertised as a feature
>>
>> Is this because of checksum verification (the need to read all
>> components) or something else? Any documentation/references?
>
> RAID-Z stores a single checksum over the whole stripe, instead of
> checksumming each disks's section separately, so it has to read from
> all disks to validate the stripe. Only random reads are penalized,
> though.
random reads are most common read on unix, unless you process linearly
huge files, but that's fast on UFS too.
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noahwallach wrote:
>
> Okay I am not understanding something with stunnel. it appears that
> stunnel cant start because it cant create a pid file. It happens every
> time I upgrade it.
>
> # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart
> stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid).
> Starting stunnel.
> # /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel restart
> stunnel not running? (check /var/run/stunnel/stunnel.pid).
> Starting stunnel.
> #
>
> Anybody help me understand things here. so here is the relevent output
> which I can provide some clues.
>
>
> # ls -ld /var/run/stunnel/
> drwxrwxr-x 2 stunnel stunnel 512 Jun 5 14:28 /var/run/stunnel/
> # cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf
> # Sample stunnel configuration file
> # Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002
>
> # Comment it out on Win32
> cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
> chroot = /var/run/stunnel
> #chroot = /var/run
> # PID is created inside chroot jail
> pid = /stunnel.pid
> setuid = stunnel
> setgid = stunnel
> # grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf
> stunnel_enable="YES"
> # cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26
> 14:18:12 roam Exp $
> #
>
> # PROVIDE: stunnel
> # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS
> # BEFORE: DAEMON
> # KEYWORD: shutdown
>
> #
> # Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure
> stunnel:
> # stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default.
> # Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel.
> # stunnel_config (str): Default
> "/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf"
> # Set it to the full path to the config file
> # that stunnel will use during the automated
> # start-up.
> # stunnel_pidfile (str): Default
> "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid"
> # Set it to the value of 'pid' in
> # the stunnel.conf file.
> #
>
> . /etc/rc.subr
>
> name="stunnel"
> rcvar=`set_rcvar`
>
> load_rc_config $name
>
> : ${stunnel_enable="NO"}
> : ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"}
> : ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"}
>
> command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel"
> command_args=${stunnel_config}
> pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile}
>
> required_files="${stunnel_config}"
>
> run_rc_command "$1"
>
>
>
> ------
>
> any ideas?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Noah
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ps auxw |grep stunnel
sockstat -4 |grep stunnel
clear anything stunnel before restart.
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try sslexplorer, http://n3ncy.com/UNIX/FreeBSD/SSLExplorer.htm
Schiz0 wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm looking for information on how to setup a Virtual Private Network
> on a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE system. The only VPNs that I've worked with
> previously is Hamachi on windows and linux, so I have no experience in
> OpenVPN or IPSec.
>
> The purpose of this VPN is to restrict certain things to only
> administrators. For example, phpmyadmin and vsFTPd. I'd prefer not to
> have these things listen on the public interface.
>
> I read the Handbook entry on IPSec/VPNs:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ipsec.html
>
> However, that entry only has examples for how to connect one network
> to another network via FreeBSD gateways. I don't want a setup like
> this; I just want the freebsd system, my windows XP system, and a few
> other windows XP systems to be on a VPN together.
>
> Can anyone link me to how-tos or any references on how to do this?
> Also, any suggestions on which software to use (OpenVPN, IPSec, etc)
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
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hi, stunnel 4.25 does not kill all stunnel instances after issuing "stop";
you have to kill all old stunnel jobs before restarting it.
noahwallach wrote:
>
> Just upgraded stunnel and getting the following error message in the
> /var/log/messages file. It appears that when I restart stunnel it
> complains "Error binding pop3s to 0.0.0.0:995 and bind: Address already
> in use (48)". therefore the 995 port never becomes available during the
> restart. Why is that happening? She the stunel logs below.
>
> any clues?
>
> ---- snip ---
>
> Jun 8 13:17:04 stunnel: warning: can't get client address: Bad file
> descriptor
> Jun 8 13:17:34 last message repeated 530400 times
> Jun 8 13:18:00 last message repeated 488687 times
>
> ---- snip ---
>
>
> ---- here is the stunnel.log -----
>
> n# tail -n 50 -f /var/log/stunnel.log
> Jun 8 00:00:00 typhoon newsyslog[72831]: logfile turned over
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Snagged 64 random bytes from
> /root/.rnd
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Wrote 1024 new random bytes
> to /root/.rnd
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: RAND_status claims sufficient
> entropy for the PRNG
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: PRNG seeded successfully
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate:
> /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Certificate loaded
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Key file:
> /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: Private key loaded
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SSL context initialized for
> service pop3s
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: stunnel 4.25 on
> i386-unknown-freebsd6.2 with OpenSSL 0.9.8h 28 May 2008
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: Threading:PTHREAD SSL:ENGINE
> Sockets:POLL,IPv6 Auth:LIBWRAP
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: file ulimit = 11095 (can be
> changed with 'ulimit -n')
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG6[21238:134664192]: poll() used - no FD_SETSIZE
> limit for file descriptors
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG5[21238:134664192]: 5417 clients allowed
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 5 in non-blocking mode
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 6 in non-blocking mode
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: FD 7 in non-blocking mode
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG7[21238:134664192]: SO_REUSEADDR option set on
> accept socket
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: Error binding pop3s to
> 0.0.0.0:995
> 2008.06.08 04:05:41 LOG3[21238:134664192]: bind: Address already in use
> (48)
>
>
> --- configuration -------
>
> # cat /usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf
> # Sample stunnel configuration file
> # Copyright by Michal Trojnara 2002
>
> # Comment it out on Win32
> cert = /usr/local/etc/stunnel/mail.pem
> chroot = /var/run/stunnel
> #chroot = /var/run
> # PID is created inside chroot jail
> pid = /stunnel.pid
> setuid = stunnel
> setgid = stunnel
> # grep stunnel /etc/rc.conf
> stunnel_enable="YES"
> # cat /usr/local/etc/rc.d/stunnel
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> # $FreeBSD: ports/security/stunnel/files/stunnel.in,v 1.9 2008/01/26
> 14:18:12 roam Exp $
> #
>
> # PROVIDE: stunnel
> # REQUIRE: NETWORKING SERVERS
> # BEFORE: DAEMON
> # KEYWORD: shutdown
>
> #
> # Add some of the following variables to /etc/rc.conf to configure
> stunnel:
> # stunnel_enable (bool): Set to "NO" by default.
> # Set it to "YES" to enable stunnel.
> # stunnel_config (str): Default
> "/usr/local/etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf"
> # Set it to the full path to the config file
> # that stunnel will use during the automated
> # start-up.
> # stunnel_pidfile (str): Default
> "/usr/local/var/stunnel/stunnel.pid"
> # Set it to the value of 'pid' in
> # the stunnel.conf file.
> #
>
> . /etc/rc.subr
>
> name="stunnel"
> rcvar=`set_rcvar`
>
> load_rc_config $name
>
> : ${stunnel_enable="NO"}
> : ${stunnel_config="/usr/local/etc/stunnel/${name}.conf"}
> : ${stunnel_pidfile="/var/run/stunnel/${name}.pid"}
>
> command="/usr/local/bin/stunnel"
> command_args=${stunnel_config}
> pidfile=${stunnel_pidfile}
>
> required_files="${stunnel_config}"
>
> run_rc_command "$1"
>
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James <james@icionline.ca> wrote:
> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts once
> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
>
> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
>
> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software
> related???
Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz,
and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the
high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I
slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz),
so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards
oscillating like mad at this very frequency.
I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from
what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of
generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain
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are there any experiences with FreeBSD being an NFSv4 client out there?
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> Windows VISTA BUSINESS 64-bit guest (core duo 3 GHz, 4 GB RAM)
^^^^^
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> After restarting the 6.2 host
^^^^
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Hello all,
I have the following configuration -
FreeBSD 6.2 (minimal install)
Running in VMware 6.x
Windows VISTA BUSINESS 64-bit guest (core duo 3 GHz, 4 GB RAM)
supfile-stable is edited just with the domain (cvs.at) and the version
(6_3 or 7_0).
csup with this supfile runs for some time, then the virtual machine
freezes and the host shows 100% CPU use. After restarting the 6.2 host
2-3 times and csup again, eventually csup completes.
Could somebody advice me what might be going wrong?
Thank you,
Iv
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Just did some tests and found out the same -
csup freezes when the Free memory ends (the virtual machine has 512 MB RAM).
Is this a known issue, and is there a workaround?
Thank you,
Iv
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If you are reading the mailing lists via the FreeBSD website
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you can use the "Raw E-Mail" link of a posting to fetch a
copy and incorporate it into your mail client.
Two common mail formats are pine mail (one file per folder),
and MH mail (one file per message). I use Sylpheed which uses
MH mail format so its quite easy. I created a folder called
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is to use the next numerical message number, in this example
"114":
cd ~/Mail/web-list
fetch -R -o 114 'http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=422834+0+current/freebsd-questions+raw'
It is then possible to just use Sylpheed normally and click
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I've not used the "one file per folder" type of mail client
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You will need to investigate how your particular mail client
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Randy
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Novembre wrote:
> Hi,
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> person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
> other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?
Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to
newsgroups. I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I
am subscribed to the list. (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as
e-mail.) When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my
answer is then threaded properly.
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Hello,
I am also (very) interested in running FreeBSD under HyperV since HyperV will
liberate itself from Windows Server soon after the final release (it will not depend
on an preliminary Windows Server installation but will be "standalone" and
practically free of charge, which makes it (for me) a very interesting solution).
>> Im trying to set up a FreeBSD VM under Hyper-V but i the instalation
>> do not start. i try x86 and x64 boot disk only (for a net install).
>> The error i got is "cant load kernel".
>>
>> Im a novice on FreeBSD but i have set up a few small server with it. Any idea?
>
> You didn't say which version of FreeBSD you are trying.
>
> Please try a snapshot of 8-CURRENT (from
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) to see if anything
> changes. There have been improvements to the boot loader recently.
I've heard that it works (at least boots) with 8-CURRENT. Are there plans to
include support for FreeBSD 7.x branch too? That would be really cool. Yes, I
know, patches are welcome.
Thanks,
Nejc
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Andrew Falanga <af300wsm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD
> machine in the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night,
> I tried so that I could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No
> problem I thought, his modem has a different IP than the one I have
> in my /etc/hosts file, but this turned to not be the case.
>
> Well, after some digging, I did a traceroute to his IP address. The
> packets went all over the place, from San Jose, to Colorado, back to
> San Jose, to Colorado then to Ohio, then to Denver, then to San Jose,
> then to Ohio, etc. (you get the idea).
This is not necessarily wrong, I used to have a dialup account where
connections within the UK would go often go to London, then go round a
tour of Western Europe, and then come back through London. Although
there probably is a fault in your case since you can't connect.
> First, my DSL modems IP is 71.221.172.38, however, the default route
> appears to be 67.41.38.201.
I think Point-to-Point links just work like that, with arbitrary
addresses on either end of the link. My address and gateway have only
the first byte in common.
> [/usr/home/andy]
> -> traceroute -n 67.41.38.201
> traceroute to 67.41.38.201 (67.41.38.201), 64 hops max, 52 byte
> packets 1 * * *
> 2 67.41.38.201 40.303 ms * 39.421 ms
>
> Why on earth would there be delays on the first hop when not using
> name resolution?
I don't see what name resolution has to do with the delay, the 39ms is
the round-trip time to the gateway at the ISP.
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Ok heres the best solution, Im not even a big linux fan but install Ubuntu
Server KVM,
then install windows and FreeBSD 6, 7 or 8 Linux KVM just works, ive had 0
issues
with FreeBSD under KVM with bridged networking.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Nejc =8Akoberne <nejc@skoberne.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am also (very) interested in running FreeBSD under HyperV since HyperV
> will
> liberate itself from Windows Server soon after the final release (it will
> not depend
> on an preliminary Windows Server installation but will be "standalone" an=
d
> practically free of charge, which makes it (for me) a very interesting
> solution).
>
>
> Im trying to set up a FreeBSD VM under Hyper-V but i the instalation
>>> do not start. i try x86 and x64 boot disk only (for a net install).
>>> The error i got is "cant load kernel".
>>>
>>> Im a novice on FreeBSD but i have set up a few small server with it. An=
y
>>> idea?
>>>
>>
>> You didn't say which version of FreeBSD you are trying.
>>
>> Please try a snapshot of 8-CURRENT (from
>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) to see if anything
>> changes. There have been improvements to the boot loader recently.
>>
>
> I've heard that it works (at least boots) with 8-CURRENT. Are there plans
> to
> include support for FreeBSD 7.x branch too? That would be really cool. Ye=
s,
> I
> know, patches are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Nejc
>
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> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 09:40:17PM -0600, James wrote:
>> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
>> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts
once
>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
>>=20
>> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
>> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
>>=20
>> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software
related???
>=20
> I can't imagine this is a software issue. Sounds strange. Have you
> tried to see if it isn't a fan issue? We have some Dell GX280s with a
> bad batch of motherboards at my university---under specific conditions
> (e.g., using certain video cards) the system fan will spin up 'til the
> system sounds like it's about to take off.
One of the device probes during startup could be sending what appears to
be a full speed command to the fan controller.
Bob McConnell
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> ifconfig
This looks ok. Mind you, I'm not all that up on wireless, so I don't
know if that could be part of your issue.
> arp
> ? (192.168.1.3) at (incomplete) on ath0 [ethernet]
> ? (192.168.1.254) at (incomplete) on ath0 [ethernet]
This is generally telling you that you have recently attempted to
communicate to the IP's, and address resolution is in progress (and in
your case, most likely will timeout).
The rest of your message is irrelevant at this point, since you can't
even resolve the layer 2 addresses on the local link.
I'd have to say at this point that either there is a problem with the
wireless config on the FreeBSD machine, or there is a firewall on the
machine blocking your traffic.
Does the linksys show you as connected? If you enable DHCP on the
linksys, does it register a client lease for the box?
If you cable yourself directly to the Linksys (as opposed to wireless)
with the same IP configuration, does it work then?
Steve
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On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 04:07:23PM +0200, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> >g95.out:
> > libm.so.5 => /lib/libm.so.5 (0x280c5000)
> > libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x280db000)
>
> ^-- this one doesn't link to a dynamic fortran library, so it is
> presumably statically linked, explaining the size. Look into how the
> file was constructed (e.g. the command used to link the binary).
>
Kris, many thanks.
I have confirmed this with Andy Vaught (g95 main developer).
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In the Gmail web interface:
Settings -=> Forwarding and POP/IMAP -=> Enable POP for all mail
This isn't a Thunderbird issue.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
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> I just switched machines and want to force thunderbird to download
> everything in my "All Mail" folder on gmail.... I tried unreading and/or
> moving it to my inbox and tb still only dl'ed stuff that was newer then the
> last time I downloaded last... any ideas?
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Hello everybody,
I am trying to build a VMware twin of an existing production server
running FreeBSD 6.2. I have a 6.2 boot only ISO. The installation from
FTP works well, but I have some strange issues - (i. e. csup when
pulling the 6.3 sources freezes the OS and completes after two restarts,
make buildworld crashes, etc.). I normally I move with the RELEASE
versions and I have never had such problems the last 2-4 years. Could it
be that I am doing something wrong, or simply versions outside of
RELEASE are to be treated differently?
Thank you,
Iv
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Same here.
--
Robi
Outback Dingo wrote:
> Ok heres the best solution, Im not even a big linux fan but install Ubuntu
> Server KVM,
> then install windows and FreeBSD 6, 7 or 8 Linux KVM just works, ive had 0
> issues
> with FreeBSD under KVM with bridged networking.
>
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Nejc Škoberne <nejc@skoberne.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am also (very) interested in running FreeBSD under HyperV since HyperV
>> will
>> liberate itself from Windows Server soon after the final release (it will
>> not depend
>> on an preliminary Windows Server installation but will be "standalone" and
>> practically free of charge, which makes it (for me) a very interesting
>> solution).
>>
>>
>> Im trying to set up a FreeBSD VM under Hyper-V but i the instalation
>>>> do not start. i try x86 and x64 boot disk only (for a net install).
>>>> The error i got is "cant load kernel".
>>>>
>>>> Im a novice on FreeBSD but i have set up a few small server with it. Any
>>>> idea?
>>>>
>>> You didn't say which version of FreeBSD you are trying.
>>>
>>> Please try a snapshot of 8-CURRENT (from
>>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/) to see if anything
>>> changes. There have been improvements to the boot loader recently.
>>>
>> I've heard that it works (at least boots) with 8-CURRENT. Are there plans
>> to
>> include support for FreeBSD 7.x branch too? That would be really cool. Yes,
>> I
>> know, patches are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nejc
>>
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video.cgi is not the video you were watching it is a partial code segment
from the web server you were browsing.
there is no such video encapsulation type as a .cgi file, they are common
gateway interface scripts/executables.
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:57 PM, <dfeustel@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I just discovered that firefox can save motion video
> in addition to displaying it. But I don't know how
> to play back the saved video.cgi file. Mplayer
> complains about missing configuration data.
>
> Does anyone know how to play back the file saved
> by firefox?
>
> Is there some other mailing list to which I should
> post this question?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Feustel
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On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 11:39:06PM -0700, Steve Quinn wrote:
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> > them usefull.
> > I, for once, could really use them :)
> >
>
> Hi Gonzalo, all
>
> I knew I should have done that in the first place, sorry :-)
> They were embarrassingly messy so I resisted
>
> I just fixed them up a bit
> I hope they can be of help
>
> See OpenVPN from http://www.isgsp.net/freebsd/index.html
>
> Take care
>
> Steve
Excellent, Steve. Thanks a lot.
Cheers,
~Jason
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Hi FreeBSD users
Currently in /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng there is version syslog-ng
1.6.12. I need version syslog-ng 1.6.5 (the same as in production
environment) to test configuration changes.
Is there an archive of the ports tree? Whats the FreeBSD way to
install this old version integrated in the rest of the system?
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Simon Jolle wrote:
> What is the FreeBSD way to
> install this old version integrated in the rest of the system?
If 1.6.12 was already installed, I would use portdowngrade.
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In response to "Simon Jolle" <urandomdev@gmail.com>:
> Hi FreeBSD users
>
> Currently in /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng there is version syslog-ng
> 1.6.12. I need version syslog-ng 1.6.5 (the same as in production
> environment) to test configuration changes.
>
> Is there an archive of the ports tree? Whats the FreeBSD way to
> install this old version integrated in the rest of the system?
Looks through the CVS logs (you can use the web interface or Dan's
freshports: http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/syslog-ng/)
Find the date of the version you want, then configure your supfile
to grab the ports tree from that date. Something like:
date=2004.08.28.10.00.00
should get what you want. When cvsup is done running, you'll be
able to run make install from the syslog-ng directory to install
that version ... assuming that distfile is still readily available.
If it's not, you'll have to do some web searches until you find it
manually. Some projects are really good about keeping old distfiles
around, other are not.
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700, Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote:
>>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
>>
>>There's no more need for find | xargs
>>
>>Try:
>>
>>find . -type -f -exec grep <grepoptions> <text to search> {} \+
>>
>>-exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo
>>-exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file
>
> The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while
> xargs batches the files.
The \+ trick behaves like xargs, so this shouldn't be an issue :)
> This is of particular importance if one wants to see the file
> names in the output.
You can ensure the same even if xargs picks up a single file to grep
with
xargs -0 grep pattern /dev/null
This will cost an open() / read() pair for each batch of files, but it
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Hello,
when I want to install www/apache22 then following
error appears:
beastie# make install clean
===> Installing for apache-2.2.8
===> apache-2.2.8 conflicts with installed
package(s):
apr-db42-1.2.8_2
They install files into the same place.
Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/www/apache22.
beastie# pkg_delete apr-db42-1.2.8_2
pkg_delete: package 'apr-db42-1.2.8_2' is required by
these other packages
and may not be deinstalled:
kde-3.5.8
kdesdk-3.5.8
kdevelop-3.5.0
kdewebdev-3.5.8,2
subversion-1.4.4_1
beastie#
The question: Is it possible to keep them both
running, or have I to delete really KDE?
With regards
Stevan Tiefert
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On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:23:19 +0200, Simon Jolle sjolle <urandomdev@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/08/2008 10:12 PM, Bill Campbell wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
>>> I tried to make a grep script on find a string in all files on path
>>> ./ and down. It does anything exept searching in files and reporting
>>> them. Is there a Grep Guru who can hint me out? Thanks,
>>
>> I expect you need something like:
>>
>> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern
>
> Or install the GNU grep (from the man)
>
> -R, -r, --recursive
> Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is
> equivalent to the -d recurse option.
/usr/bin/grep *is* GNU grep in FreeBSD:
% keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$ grep --version
% grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1-FreeBSD
%
% Copyright 1988, 1992-1999, 2000, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
% This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
% warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
%
% keramida@kobe:/home/keramida$
AFAIK, Gabor Kovesdan is working on replacing grep(1) with a
BSD-licensed implementation, but he also tries to keep UI
compatibility as much as possible. So I guess the -r/-R option
should work in that version too once it hits the tree.
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I use ports/lang/gcc42.
I set WITHOUT_JAVA=yes in the Makefile.
However, with each tree update this option is
overwritten, so I have to edit the Makefile
each time I update the port.
What is the best way to preserve my custom setting,
add an environment variable?
many thanks
anton
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Hello,
I'm new to FreeBSD and really attracted to it because of the
performance and stability it provides. So I am looking to develop a
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couldn't find much documentation on the memory limits in FreeBSD,
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I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is
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Unga <unga888@yahoo.com> writes:
> How to do regression on libc to verify the correctness?
There are conformance test suites out there.
The decent ones all seem to cost money, but
you might want to look at the "Open POSIX"
project.
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On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 05:09:08PM -0700, Tobias Hoellrich wrote:
> [Disclaimer: I work for Adobe Systems. I have nothing to do with the
> Flash Player. I'm a grunt who works on other stuff. This is my personal
> opinion as a long-time FreeBSD user and I'm not making any statements
> for Adobe.]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Jona Joachim
> > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:58 PM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: Flashplugin
> >
> > Flash is a big pain IMO.
> > The Flash question has been asked *a lot* of times on this list.
> > The answer usually boils down to "use www/nspluginwrapper" or "use
> > linux-firefox". Both "solutions" are far from optimal.
> > My solution is to simply ignore Flash content. It makes your
> > "online experience"
> > much more enjoyable. This is my personal choice of course.
>
> ...
>
> That's simply wrong. The Flash format byte-code is *not* proprietary. If
> you want to, you can go ahead and create your own Flash Player. The
> specifications for the format are freely available at:
> http://www.adobe.com/openscreenproject/developers/
This is encouraging. Is that info really enough to create a player
such as Flash 9?
I hope some folks will take a good shot at it. It is really beyond me.
>
> And Gnash (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/), which was started before
> the spec was available, will certainly benefit from this.
>
> And to address a previous message: if your bank requires you to use the
> Flash Player to make a transaction, then you will need to get in touch
> with your bank and not blame it on the non-existence of the Flash Player
> on your platform. A disabled person with a text-only browser or a
> screen-reader will certainly have the same issues.
Companies who insist on their front pages and their functional things
such as sales using flash or some other gimmick are inflicted with
persons who are more interested in supplanting their egos than
making the online product work for the company.
But, if the web page has all its business in normal html and only
uses flash and other such stuff as extra attraction and advertising
then, no problem. A little eye candy on the side is not the issue.
It is when the essentials are all blocked and made non-functional
by the eye candy that the company and/or web designer is way off base.
>
> My offer stands: if anybody can provide the numbers above, I'm going to
> forward them to the right people and work things from my end.
The numbers come out each month (BSD Stats), but unfortunately they really
represent only a fraction of the actual number of BSD systems in use. They
also do not distinguish between server and desktop use -- which is sometimes
impossible anyway since many systems, such as the one I am typing on right
now, are used for both.
////jerry
>
> Don't beat me up, I'm for the support - even if I'm not using FreeBSD as
> a desktop OS.
>
> Thanks and happy weekend - Tobias
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> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600
> James <james@icionline.ca> wrote:
>=20
>> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
>> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts
once
>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
>>=20
>> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
>> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
>>=20
>> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software
>> related???
>
> Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz,
> and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the
> high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I
> slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz),
> so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards
> oscillating like mad at this very frequency.
>=20
> I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from
> what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of
> generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain
> frequencies.
>=20
> -cpghost.
No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the
US is 17,500 Hz. Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback
transformers. Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they
resonated with EM fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more
frequently they can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I
don't notice it as much.
Bob McConnell
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Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
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>> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:48:46 -0500
>> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> From: jbiquez@icsmx.com
>> Subject: Re: vmware timekeeping
>>
>> At 03:23 p.m. 06/06/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-release as a guest on VMware ESX 3.0.2. My
>>> problem is that the clock keeps *gaining* time. I have the
>>> "timesync" option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have
>>> "hint.apic.0.disabled=1" in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf.
>>>
>>> I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the
>>> guest to gain time even faster.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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>> Hello all.
>>
>> Here is something similar. Running 6.2 stable... but the clock lose
>> around 6 hours each day
>>
>> JB
>>
>>
>
>
> The only good way of keeping time pretty set is to set up an NTP sync on the image to go off at decently constant rate (once every 3 hours or so). the vmware-tools will not synchronize the system clock.
>
The tools do attempt to improve timekeeping if you put
tools.syncTime = "TRUE"
in the guest's .vmx file. However, the tools will only move the time
forward. It is attempting to compensate for "lost ticks". Without
using syncTime the guest's clock can run slow, depending on the host's
overall load. With syncTime on, my Linux guest machines stay
synchronized perfectly. Well, they're within one second anyway, which
is fine for my application. The recipe for this success was to turn on
syncTime, and use the following linux boot options:
clock=pit nosmp noapic nolapic
However, I have not been able to achieve the same success with
FreeBSD. The clock doesn't lose time, but it gains time, very slowly.
It's probably load dependent, but it's around 10 seconds a day. What's
the FreeBSD equivalent of "clock=pit" ? Meaning to use the PIT and not
the APIC.
In general, but also in this application in particular, one does not one
time to move backwards. The Dovcot IMAP server immediately exits if it
detects that time went backwards.
In order to use NTP, you'd probably have to turn off syncTime, which
probably does a better job anyway except for the gaining time problem.
I haven't tried actually running ntpd instead of a periodic sync, as
this is not recommended by VMware's timekeeping white paper:
http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vmware_timekeeping.pdf. My last-ditch
strategy will be to start monkeying with the knobs for syncTime, like these:
timeTracker.catchupPercentage
timeTracker.catchupIfBehindByUsec
timeTracker.giveupIfBehindByUsec
But I'd rather fix it the same way I have with Linux.
> I heard of someone trying to change the clock in BSD to only use the hardware clock as VMWare can reset that but never heard anything beyond that.
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Uwe Laverenz wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 04:23:41PM -0400, Jeff Dickens wrote:
>
>
>> option turned on in ESX's .vmx file, and I have "hint.apic.0.disabled=1"
>> in my FreeBSD guest's /boot/loader.conf.
>>
>
> This shouldn't be necessary in FreeBSD >= 6.2.
>
>
hmm.
>> I used to have "kern.hz=100" in loader.conf, but that caused the guest
>> to gain time even faster.
>>
>
> "100" is ok, I'm using this value on all virtual machines.
>
>
>> Does anyone have a good recipe for decent timekeeping in this config?
>>
>
> Is it possible to upgrade your ESX from 3.0.2 to 3.5x? If not, there is
> another setting on the ESX side that helps with timing problems (FreeBSD
> or Linux guests): change "Advanced Settings/Misc/Misc.Timer/MinHardPeriod"
> from 400 to 100 (this is default on ESX 3.5x).
>
>
Unfortunately IBM has not certified my hardware (xSeries 226) with ESX
3.5, and the installation just hangs, so I'm stuck on 3.0.2 for now.
Thanks, I will try that suggestion.
> Uwe
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Hello,
Greetings,
Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386.
and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to install from the DOS?.How then.
Thank you for your help
huu
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Hello all,
I have a FreeBSD 7 machine that I am running gmirror on (ad4 and ad6).
there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized.
(right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been 100G
and exports 10G)
what do I need to do to fix this.
I am assuming break the mirror, fdisk the /exports and /home then
remake them, and then rebuild the mirror..
right?
What do I need to do with as little impact on the running server as
possible.. as many services are already configured on this box and
it's running :P
(of course.. )
Thanks in advance,
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On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote:
> >On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
> >
> >There's no more need for find | xargs
> >
> >Try:
> >
> >find . -type -f -exec grep <grepoptions> <text to search> {} \+
> >
> >-exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo
> >-exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file
Thanks for this kick; I'd missed or misunderstood using {} \+
> The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while
> xargs batches the files.
If find(1) is to be believed, so does -exec utility [argument ...] {} +
> This is of particular importance if one wants to see the file
> names in the output. In relation to this, if one wants to be
> sure that grep always generates the file name, insure that it
> always gets at least two files as arguments:
>
> find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep pattern /dev/null
Another good clue. Many ways to do anything; I've often used such as:
% find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec egrep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \;
which has grep print the filenames, rather than using -print with find,
but I've just now run the above find, then using \+ instead, twice each,
and am pleased to learn that the latter method runs ~4 times faster in
real time and is even lighter on the system:
% time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \;
/sys/kern/kern_cpu.c:static int cpufreq_settings_sysctl(SYSCTL_HANDLER_ARGS);
[.. etc ..]
20.524u 46.205s 4:03.91 27.3% 79+201k 5698+0io 0pf+0w
% time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \+
1.756u 3.058s 1:07.51 7.1% 81+290k 7148+0io 13pf+0w
% time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \;
21.742u 44.382s 3:57.99 27.7% 79+200k 7144+0io 0pf+0w
% time find /sys/ -name "*.[chm]" -exec grep -Hi 'CPUFREQ_[GS]ET' {} \+
1.651u 3.134s 0:58.39 8.1% 75+267k 7149+0io 10pf+0w
(Ignore sloth; poor 300MHz Celeron already busy dumping /usr over nfs :)
> FWIW, I have learned about gnu-grep's -r option reading this
> thread, which I had not noticed previously. I guess that just
> goes to show that old habits die hard :-).
When you're on a good thing :) but always plenty new tricks to learn.
cheers, Ian
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> Hello,
> Greetings,
> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386.
> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to install from the DOS?.How then.
> Thank you for your help
> huu
Did you burn the ISO on the CD/DVD as a file, or did you instruct the
burning program to use it as a disk image?
Iv
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> I use ports/lang/gcc42.
> I set WITHOUT_JAVA=3Dyes in the Makefile.
> However, with each tree update this option is
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>=20
> What is the best way to preserve my custom setting,
> add an environment variable?
Add the following to your /etc/make.conf:
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What this means is: if the current build directory (.CURDIR) matches=20
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> Greetings,
> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and
> configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for
> i386. and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or
> DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is
> shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it
> possible to install from the DOS?.How then.=20
Also check the boot sequence in the BIOS setup. It should try to boot
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i mean port multipliers
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> Hello all,
>
> I have a FreeBSD 7 machine that I am running gmirror on (ad4 and ad6).
>
> there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized.
>
> (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been 100G
> and exports 10G)
>
> what do I need to do to fix this.
>
> I am assuming break the mirror, fdisk the /exports and /home then remake
> them, and then rebuild the mirror..
>
> right?
>
> What do I need to do with as little impact on the running server as
> possible.. as many services are already configured on this box and it's
> running :P
>
> (of course.. )
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What I would do is break the mirror, then resize the partitions and
newfs them on one disk. Then dump|restore the data from the other disk
to your new partitions, and recreate the mirror with the newly resized
disk and insert the other disk into that mirror. That disk should then
rebuild with the new partitioning.
Of course, you can only do this while the mirror is unused. So you're
going to have to have some degree of downtime on those filesystems. You
can minimize the downtime by killing the mirror and remounting the
filesystems direct from one disk while you work on repartitioning the
other. You may want to mount read-only, however, as the dump|restore may
take a significant amount of time and you wouldn't want to lose any data
that may be written to the other disk while you're busy copying from it.
When you've built the new mirror with the repartitioned disk and
dump|restored to it (don't forget the -L option on dump), remount the
partitions from the new mirror and then insert the second disk.
That's what I'd do, anyhow.
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> there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized.
>
> (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been 100G and
> exports 10G)
more exact info please.
gmirror status
mount or cat /etc/fstab
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote:
> Hello,
> Greetings,
> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and
> configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386.
> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,
> it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the
> web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to
> install from the DOS?.How then.
I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound
like something I have seen when booting from a CD.
First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out.
Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk
If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then
put it there.
When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue.
It might put up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait
and take the default.
Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that
besides install selection stuff.
////jerry
> Thank you for your help
> huu
>
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> http://www.sataport.com/
>
> i mean port multipliers
>
http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/freebsd-current/2008/4/11/1402054
So the answer is there is support in -CURRENT but is still in its early
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On Jun 9, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>
>> there is an /exports and /home that need to be resized.
>>
>> (right now they each are about 55G and /home needed to have been
>> 100G and exports 10G)
>
> more exact info please.
>
> gmirror status
> mount or cat /etc/fstab
Name Status Components
mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad4
ad6
# Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
/dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 0
/dev/mirror/gm0s1a / ufs rw 1 1
/dev/mirror/gm0s1h /exports ufs rw 2 2
/dev/mirror/gm0s1g /home ufs rw 2 2
/dev/mirror/gm0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2
/dev/mirror/gm0s1e /usr/local ufs rw 2 2
/dev/mirror/gm0s1f /var ufs rw 2 2
/dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0
#/dev/da0s1 /mnt/root ufs ro 0 0
#/dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0
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Jerry McAllister ha scritto:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote:
>
>
>> Hello,
>> Greetings,
>> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and
>> configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386.
>> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,
>> it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the
>> web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to
>> install from the DOS?.How then.
>>
I got the same problem,very likely you have burned the iso file on a
window machine.I gave up.
If you have a floppy drive make the boot floppy as explained on the
handbook ,and then install
via ftp.
sincerely
Filippo
>
> I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound
> like something I have seen when booting from a CD.
>
> First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out.
>
> Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk
> If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then
> put it there.
>
> When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue.
> It might put up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait
> and take the default.
>
> Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that
> besides install selection stuff.
>
> ////jerry
>
>
>
>> Thank you for your help
>> huu
>>
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 at 18:33 +0200, gunnut@2ainfo.it confabulated:
> Jerry McAllister ha scritto:
>> On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> Greetings,
>>> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and
>>> configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for
>>> i386.
>>> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,
>>> it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the
>>> web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to
>>> install from the DOS?.How then.
>>>
>
> I got the same problem,very likely you have burned the iso file on a window
> machine.
Likely you have burned the iso file on a windows machine? I use both Roxio
and Nero and have NEVER had any issues. Both will automatically set up
correctly to burn the contents of the ISO just by double-clicking on the
ISO image.
>I gave up.
> If you have a floppy drive make the boot floppy as explained on the handbook
> ,and then install
> via ftp.
> sincerely
> Filippo
>>
>> I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound like
>> something I have seen when booting from a CD.
>>
>> First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out.
>>
>> Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk
>> If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then
>> put it there.
>>
>> When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue. It might put
>> up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait
>> and take the default.
>>
>> Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that
>> besides install selection stuff.
>>
>> ////jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>> Thank you for your help
>>> huu
>>>
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> Likely you have burned the iso file on a windows machine? I use both Roxi=
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> and Nero and have NEVER had any issues. Both will automatically set up=20
> correctly to burn the contents of the ISO just by double-clicking on the=20
> ISO image.
As will free Windows utilities like ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Falanga <af300wsm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have, for some time, been able to ssh into my father's FreeBSD machine in
> the Road Runner network in Central New York. Last night, I tried so that I
> could fix a problem for him and ssh timed out. No problem I thought, his
> modem has a different IP than the one I have in my /etc/hosts file, but this
> turned to not be the case.
This may be off-topic, but...
I am using cable internet Time Warner/Road Runner/Earthlink in New
York. However, I have a wireless router behind the cable modem and the
router is registered with dyndns.org. When I registered with them, I
chose a dns name from them for the router and every time my IP changes
the router sends a request and their database is updated with the new
IP - this is roughly how they work. So I can access machines in my
home network usind a DNS name instead of an IP address. You and your
dad may find this setup useful.
Regards
Rambius
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 06:33:56PM +0200, Filippo Moretti wrote:
> Jerry McAllister ha scritto:
> >On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 08:24:13AM -0700, Huu Daud wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hello,
> >>Greetings,
> >>Iam new to this forum and to the Unix. My interest is to install and
> >>configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for
> >>i386.
> >>and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,
> >>it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on
> >>the web. Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible
> >>to install from the DOS?.How then.
> >>
> I got the same problem,very likely you have burned the iso file on a
> window machine.I gave up.
> If you have a floppy drive make the boot floppy as explained on the
> handbook ,and then install
> via ftp.
> sincerely
> Filippo
If the problem is burning on an MS machine, then you have to make sure
that the system is not trying to make an ISO out of the file before
it burns it. The file is already an ISO and needs to be burned
just as it is without any type of conversion.
You'll have to check the options for the utility that you are
using to burn the CD.
////jerry
> >
> >I am having a little trouble picturing what you got. It doesn't sound
> >like something I have seen when booting from a CD.
> >
> >First, is there something in your floppy drive? If so, take it out.
> >
> >Second, your BIOS boot sequence should be: Floppy, CD, hard disk
> >If it doesn't happen to have the CD in the BIOS sequence, then
> >put it there.
> >
> >When you start to boot from the CD, then just let it continue.
> >It might put up a boot menu, but you should be able to just wait
> >and take the default.
> >
> >Past that, there should be no other prompt or menu after that
> >besides install selection stuff.
> >
> >////jerry
> >
> >
> >
> >>Thank you for your help
> >>huu
> >>
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Hi,
Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i
think i do.
When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the
end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall"
etc. message.
But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall,
and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing
in UPDATING about this.
Thanks!
Jen
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> On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 17:00 +0000, D Hill wrote:
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> > Likely you have burned the iso file on a windows machine? I use both
> > Roxio and Nero and have NEVER had any issues. Both will automatically
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>
> As will free Windows utilities like ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com/
Another free alternative which I've used in the past is BurnAtOnce.
http://www.burnatonce.net/
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Thank you all for discussing this with me. I really like to here your opinions.
I wont answer to all of your posts, because half of them is off-topic,
but still interesting to read.
I haven't heard/read about any huge CPU consumptions from ZFS, not yet
at least. If you have links to benchmarks and comparisons with other
fses (UFS2 in particular) it would be grate!
For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram
for caching, which is quite much, but not too much compared to my 4GB
that is available. However there doesn't seem to be an upper limit for
ZFS, which I think is very bad.
2008/6/8 Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>:
>> The choice is probably between "Debian 4.0r3", "FreeBSD 7.0" and
>> "OpenSolaris 2008.05". All of them have their pros and cons.
>>
>
> could you tell any pros for opensolaris?
OpenSolaris 2008.05 didn't boot on my hardware, so it's out of this
project anyway. The live-cd hangs on "device detect".
One of the pros for OpenSolaris I've noticed is the support for a
virtual host and at the same time able to use ZFS, but that doesn't
matter anymore because I can not boot it and ZFS will probably eat my
memory if I can set an upper limit.
>> I think Debian / Linux, almost falls off because it lacks support for
>> native ZFS and I have not found any alternative filesystem that offer
>> checksums on the fly.
>
> agree
I have now found a filesystem for linux that do checksum on the fly,
btrfs. But it is still very experimental, so I wont try it for this
project.
http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/
// Anders
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:36 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com> wrote:
>>On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote:
>>>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
>>>
>>> There's no more need for find | xargs
>>>
>>> Try:
>>>
>>> find . -type -f -exec grep <grepoptions> <text to search> {} \+
>>>
>>> -exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo
>>> -exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file
>
> Thanks for this kick; I'd missed or misunderstood using {} \+
>
>> The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while
>> xargs batches the files.
>
> If find(1) is to be believed, so does -exec utility [argument ...] {} +
Yes, sure. I think Bill was just being extra-conservative[1] and he
explicitly chose to quote `+' with a backslash to avoid spurious
interpreration by the shell. I also type `\+' out of habbit most
of the time.
[1] BSD users tend to be this way, but that's a good thing, right? :)
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> For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram
> for caching, which is quite much, but not too much compared to my 4GB
> that is available. However there doesn't seem to be an upper limit for
> ZFS, which I think is very bad.
This limit can be tuned. At least on solaris.
Also, ZFS definitely prefers a 64 bit kernel.
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Huu Daud wrote:
> Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for i386.
> and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD ,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to install from the DOS?.How then
>
Just start up Nero Express; then you will get a window in which you can
choose 'Disc Image or Saved Project'.
When you click on that option, you can choose the location of the .iso file.
Did you ftp the .iso file? Then first try thru _http_ and process the above.
That you burn your iso on a Windows machine has nothing to do with the
problem.
-- Jos
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Bob McConnell <rvm@cbord.com> wrote:
> On Behalf Of cpghost
>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600
>> James <james@icionline.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
>>> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts
> once
>>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
>>>
>>> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
>>> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
>>>
>>> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software
>>> related???
>>
>> Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz,
>> and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the
>> high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I
>> slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz),
>> so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards
>> oscillating like mad at this very frequency.
>>
>> I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from
>> what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of
>> generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain
>> frequencies.
>>
>> -cpghost.
>
> No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the
> US is 17,500 Hz. Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback
> transformers. Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they
> resonated with EM fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more
> frequently they can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I
> don't notice it as much.
>
> Bob McConnell
>
I think I'm going to just have to try another motherboard
unfortunately. The one I'm having problems with is an Asus M2A-VM,
which I thought would be good quality.
I wonder Gigabyte's all-solid capacitors would make a difference?
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/NewTech/2006_motherboard_newtech/article_08_ultra_durable2.htm
The thing that really bugs me is that it's only there if I don't have
certain USB devices plugged in. If I plug in an Apple keyboard and
mouse for example (which has usb ports on the keyboard), the noise
goes away.
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Hey,
> I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is
> working fine except for the OpenVPN server. I had it set up with a
> bridge configuration, but now even with a basic tunnel I can't get
> successful ping across the VPN. I can make a connection from both Linux
> and OS X but neither can actually use the tunnel. Are there any changes
> in 7 which might affect this? Anyone else using OpenVPN on 7.0?
I do. I don't use bridging, though. Do you have a good reason to use it?
Have you tried to tcpdump the interfaces? How did you configure the bridge?
We would certainly need more information to try to help you out.
Bye,
Nejc
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> In response to "Simon Jolle" <urandomdev@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Currently in /usr/ports/sysutils/syslog-ng there is version syslog-ng
>> 1.6.12. I need version syslog-ng 1.6.5 (the same as in production
>> environment) to test configuration changes.
>>
>> Is there an archive of the ports tree? Whats the FreeBSD way to
>> install this old version integrated in the rest of the system?
>
> Looks through the CVS logs (you can use the web interface or Dan's
> freshports: http://www.freshports.org/sysutils/syslog-ng/)
>
> Find the date of the version you want, then configure your supfile
> to grab the ports tree from that date. Something like:
> date=2004.08.28.10.00.00
> should get what you want. When cvsup is done running, you'll be
> able to run make install from the syslog-ng directory to install
> that version
That's pretty much what /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portdowngrade does, with a
little bit of user interface on it.
> ... assuming that distfile is still readily available. If it's not,
> you'll have to do some web searches until you find it manually. Some
> projects are really good about keeping old distfiles around, other are
> not.
And there could be dependency and version issues.
-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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2008/6/9 Dick Hoogendijk <dick@nagual.nl>:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:58:10 +0200
> "Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m" <hagge.lists@intercorner.net> wrote:
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>> For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram
>> for caching, which is quite much, but not too much compared to my 4GB
>> that is available. However there doesn't seem to be an upper limit for
>> ZFS, which I think is very bad.
>
> This limit can be tuned. At least on solaris.
> Also, ZFS definitely prefers a 64 bit kernel.
That's good to know, thanks! Do you have any reference/link that
describes how to manage that? It's good to know for the future.
I always run my server on amd64-software, as far as I can, because I
see better performance and I do not have the trouble with 4GB memory
limit. Thanks for the info!
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Hi,
just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to
gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster
-uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is
interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow
skipping ports already up to date. so it becomes portmaster -uBdRr
gettext\* -x avifile, but i noticed that portmaster still
recompile/reinstall gettext and everything that needs it. how can I
get this done right?? thank you!!
TFC
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 09:45:43PM +0200, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> Huu Daud wrote:
> >Iam new to this forum and to the Unix.My interest is to install and
> >configure freeBSD on my desktop computer.I have downloaded the iso for
> >i386.
> >and burn on the CD and DVD.My problem is when I boot from the CD or DVD
> >,it didnt send me to the screen for selection options as it is shown on
> >the web.Instead, it sends me to the A drive prompt(DOS).Is it possible to
> >install from the DOS?.How then
> >
> Just start up Nero Express; then you will get a window in which you can
> choose 'Disc Image or Saved Project'.
> When you click on that option, you can choose the location of the .iso file.
>
> Did you ftp the .iso file? Then first try thru _http_ and process the above.
>
> That you burn your iso on a Windows machine has nothing to do with the
> problem.
Other than that some of the Win burners default to, or seem to encourage
selecting, the wrong options.
But, you're right, the CD easily be burned on a Win machine with many
different pieces of software.
////jerry
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People,
This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear
with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my
site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me
with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some
people are taking a break for the summer, &c.
I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for
different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these
``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others.
Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to
use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned
(javascript or other) app?
Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on,
edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation.
[for now, the URL would not be published.]
tia,
gary
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> I haven't heard/read about any huge CPU consumptions from ZFS, not yet
as i already said. most people today have problems as they have too fast
CPU and too much RAM ;)
they don't see high CPU load on quad core machine with 16GB RAM having not
big load :)
> For the memory I've read that ZFS use up to approximately 700MB of ram
UFS use what's unused. works on 16MB and 16GB.
> project anyway. The live-cd hangs on "device detect".
> One of the pros for OpenSolaris I've noticed is the support for a
> virtual host
man jail
while maybe not with resource control like on solaris, but i use it with
success. it's really excellent.
but use nullfs with it to be able to share binaries.
> I have now found a filesystem for linux that do checksum on the fly,
> btrfs.
but why you need it?! all PATA/SATA drives do checksumming on every read.
in hardware, no CPU load.
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>> This limit can be tuned. At least on solaris.
>> Also, ZFS definitely prefers a 64 bit kernel.
>
> That's good to know, thanks! Do you have any reference/link that
> describes how to manage that? It's good to know for the future.
when i tested it i was able to run it on 256MB machine stable after
reading about tuning. but sorry i don't remember what options it were
exactly.
>
> I always run my server on amd64-software, as far as I can, because I
me too, while not having 4GB anywhere. it just runs faster
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I've recently noticed slow performance on a machine that runs amanda and stores
backups for our network on a RAID-5. It was running 6.2. I upgraded to 6.3 just
today, so it is completely up to date on the 6 branch. Here's hopefully most of the
relevant info:
6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #0: Mon Jun 9 12:57:40 MDT 2008
me@machine:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
da0 at twa0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <AMCC 9550SX-12 DISK 3.04> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device
da0: 100.000MB/s transfers
da0: 2145735MB (4394465280 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 273542C)
hw.twa0.driver_version: 3.60.04.003
Unit UnitType Status %Cmpl Stripe Size(GB) Cache AVerify IgnECC
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
u0 RAID-5 OK - 64K 2095.44 OFF OFF OFF
Port Status Unit Size Blocks Serial
---------------------------------------------------------------
p0 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0TAVV
p1 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p2 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p3 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p4 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0SYE3
p5 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p6 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p7 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p8 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0SE36
p9 OK u0 698.63 GB 1465149168 3QD0THRB
p10 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
p11 NOT-PRESENT - - - -
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/da0s1a 4058062 96518 3636900 3% /
devfs 1 1 0 100% /dev
/dev/da0s2d 1914817666 1647878588 113753666 94% /backup
/dev/da0s1d 4058062 3344 3730074 0% /tmp
/dev/da0s1f 171626538 7978766 149917650 5% /usr
/dev/da0s1e 25385516 124322 23230354 1% /var
I'm getting performance like this (no other processes were running at this time):
dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile
165760+0 records in
165759+0 records out
84868608 bytes transferred in 25.028232 secs (3390915 bytes/sec)
I think I ought to be able to get more than 3.2MB/sec out of this card, right? The
machine is about a year old and I am pretty sure it wasn't anywhere near this slow at
the beginning, though I don't have any numbers from that time to back up that
opinion. What else can I try to get more info or resolve the issue? I've looked
online for others complaining of slowness and most of the chatter about twa on
freebsd seems to be about the driver having been missing from certain install discs
back in the day. No one else seems to be having speed issues.
Thanks!!
-adam
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On Jun 9, 2008, at 2:09 PM, Adam Bayless wrote:
[ ... ]
> Unit UnitType Status %Cmpl Stripe Size(GB) Cache
> AVerify IgnECC
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> u0 RAID-5 OK - 64K 2095.44 OFF
> OFF OFF
Caching is off; that will kill performance especially for small
transactions. If you've got battery backup for this system, consider
enabling the onboard cache...?
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> UFS use what's unused. works on 16MB and 16GB.
It's difficult to tell about consumed memory in ZFS vs UFS since UFS
can be quite agressive at caching as well. -(although this caching is
often hidden by system tools and reported as "unused" memory)-
> > project anyway. The live-cd hangs on "device detect".
> > One of the pros for OpenSolaris I've noticed is the support for a
> > virtual host
>
> man jail
Jails are just slightly comparable to solaris zones. It's much more
then resource control! They're really like independent machines with
almost no memory footprint. It's quite common to run different zones
for a mailserver, webserver and i.e. users. Sparse zones use little
space, because lots of code is shared. It's all very tunable.
Running 40 sparse zones is hardly noticable.
Try that with 40 jails;-)
> > I have now found a filesystem for linux that do checksum on the fly,
> > btrfs.
>
> but why you need it?! all PATA/SATA drives do checksumming on every
> read. in hardware, no CPU load.
Because the ZFS checksumming makes the FS selfhealing. Chance for
errors are almost nill. No fsck.
Yes, it consumes memory, but memory is cheap, very cheap!
CPU load is hardly noticable.
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>
> Caching is off; that will kill performance especially for small
> transactions. If you've got battery backup for this system, consider
> enabling the onboard cache...?
>
Chuck, that made an immediate and huge difference:
# tw_cli set cache c0 u0 on
# dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile
5649235+0 records in
5649234+0 records out
2892407808 bytes transferred in 40.800142 secs (70892102 bytes/sec)
I had no idea having the cache on would be such a night and day difference.
I'm off to order the battery backup card.
Thanks!!!
-adam
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On Jun 9, 2008, at 3:09 PM, Adam Bayless wrote:
>> Caching is off; that will kill performance especially for small
>> transactions. If you've got battery backup for this system,
>> consider enabling the onboard cache...?
>
> Chuck, that made an immediate and huge difference:
>
> # tw_cli set cache c0 u0 on
> # dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile
> 5649235+0 records in
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> 2892407808 bytes transferred in 40.800142 secs (70892102 bytes/sec)
>
> I had no idea having the cache on would be such a night and day
> difference.
>
> I'm off to order the battery backup card.
>
> Thanks!!!
Excellent! I'm glad that resolved your performance issue, and you're
most welcome....
--
-Chuck
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> dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile
> 165760+0 records in
> 165759+0 records out
> 84868608 bytes transferred in 25.028232 secs (3390915 bytes/sec)
> I think I ought to be able to get more than 3.2MB/sec out of this card,
with default 512 bytes blocks - not much more
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> Hi,
> just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to
> gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster
> -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is
> interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow
> skipping ports already up to date. so it becomes portmaster -uBdRr
> gettext\* -x avifile, but i noticed that portmaster still
> recompile/reinstall gettext and everything that needs it. how can I
> get this done right?? thank you!!
>
> TFC
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Yes I would like to know this as well to make sure I m doing it correctly.
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> Running 40 sparse zones is hardly noticable.
> Try that with 40 jails;-)
you probably don't have your jails configured right. my 1GB pentium 4
machine runs 20 jails, and it is hardly noticable.
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On Monday 09 June 2008 16:33:01 Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
> I use ports/lang/gcc42.
> I set WITHOUT_JAVA=yes in the Makefile.
> However, with each tree update this option is
> overwritten, so I have to edit the Makefile
> each time I update the port.
>
> What is the best way to preserve my custom setting,
> add an environment variable?
I use port-mgmt/portconf for that. It allows to set port options
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lang/gcc42: WITHOUT_JAVA
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Bob McConnell wrote:
> On Behalf Of cpghost
>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600
>> James <james@icionline.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a high pitched whine coming from my motherboard when the EHCI
>>> USB 2.0 controller is enabled in the BIOS. The whine only starts
> once
>>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE is halfway through booting.
>>>
>>> The whine also goes away when I plugin a USB drive in with EHCI
>>> controller enabled (usb keyboard and mouse being already plugged in).
>>>
>>> Is this a hardware problem, or could it possibly be software
>>> related???
>>
>> Hard to tell. I've had whining EPIA-boards when run at 1000 Hz,
>> and after switching kern.hz to 100 Hz in /boot/loader.conf, the
>> high-pitched whine stopped entirely. It also stopped when I
>> slightly deviated from the 1000 Hz (to, say, 900 Hz or 1100 Hz),
>> so there was obviously some hardware component on the boards
>> oscillating like mad at this very frequency.
>>
>> I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from
>> what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of
>> generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain
>> frequencies.
>>
>> -cpghost.
>
> No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the
> US is 17,500 Hz.
It was 15,750 for original NTSC (black and white RS170), and changed to
15,734 when color (RS170A) came in in the 1950s. The vertical scan
(field) rate also changed from 60 Hz to 59.94. These numbers were chosen
because they are relatively easily derived from the newfangled color
subcarrier of 3.579545 MHz, yet close enough to the old values that old
pre-color TV sets could still lock to the new color signals.
> Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback transformers.
> Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they resonated with EM
> fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more frequently they
> can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I don't notice it
> as much.
The joke used to go, "Why did they pick that frequency?" "Well, the
crusty old engineers just cranked it up until they couldn't hear the
flyback anymore". I can still hear it, but then I'm still [just] on the
candy-coated side of 50.
I guess this is getting a little OT here... but by way of a half-assed
response to the OP's question, I think Bob is on the right track - seems
like an electromechanical resonance of some sort.
--
Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org
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I have a quick question that I can't seem to find an answer to via Google
so far.
I've had a few people complain that when they telnet/ssh/ftp/web to our
server, it's slow... I've traced the problem to them having no reverse on
their IPs.
So basically their connection kinda hangs while the system waits to
timeout on looking up their IP's reverse.
>From what I can tell, I should be able to just set "options timeout:n" and
"options attempts:n" in resolv.conf.. BUT it seems FBSD's install doesn't
allow you to do this.
Does anyone know a workaround to this? I thought maybe of changing it
directly in resolv.h but then I'd have to rebuild world I think..? Is
there perhaps a sysctl solution?
Thank you so much for your time.
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At 08:57 PM 6/9/2008, Jake Evans wrote:
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>I have a quick question that I can't seem to find an answer to via Google
>so far.
>
>I've had a few people complain that when they telnet/ssh/ftp/web to our
>server, it's slow... I've traced the problem to them having no reverse on
>their IPs.
>
>So basically their connection kinda hangs while the system waits to
>timeout on looking up their IP's reverse.
>
> From what I can tell, I should be able to just set "options timeout:n"
> and "options attempts:n" in resolv.conf.. BUT it seems FBSD's install
> doesn't allow you to do this.
>
>Does anyone know a workaround to this? I thought maybe of changing it
>directly in resolv.h but then I'd have to rebuild world I think..? Is
>there perhaps a sysctl solution?
>
>Thank you so much for your time.
set UseDNS to no in /etc/sshd_config
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On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 11:27 -0400, Bob McConnell wrote:
> On Behalf Of cpghost
> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:40:17 -0600
> > James <james@icionline.ca> wrote:
> > I'm no specialist and it may be an urban legend, but from
> > what I gathered, some coils could exhibit the behavior of
> > generating those high-pitched whines when exposed to certain
> > frequencies.
> >
> > -cpghost.
>
> No legends here. The horizontal sweep frequency for televisions in the
> US is 17,500 Hz. Many people could hear that whistle from cheap flyback
> transformers. Other devices would buzz, hum or rattle when they
> resonated with EM fields. Occasionally they can be heard by humans, more
> frequently they can be heard by their pets. As I have gotten older, I
> don't notice it as much.
>
Indeed. About 20 years ago our company produced a data logger for a
local gas utility. At one point our bright, young design engineer
replaced a linear voltage regulator with a switch-mode design - quite
novel at the time. Only thing was, the hand-wound inductor coils
inevitably emitted a hissing noise, not entirely unlike the sound of
escaping gas!
Wayne
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On 9-Jun-08, at 3:49 PM, Nejc =8Akoberne wrote:
> I do. I don't use bridging, though. Do you have a good reason to use =20=
> it?
I was using it because I could then assign my laptop the same IP =20
easily through my router (a separate device with DHCP) and also have =20
hostnames pushed through DHCP. But I imagine in my case I could do the =20=
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> Have you tried to tcpdump the interfaces?
Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows up on the server, but on =20=
the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent.
> How did you configure the bridge?
Here is my current config: It's no longer doing bridging though.
openvpn.conf:
port 1194
proto tcp
dev tun
ca ca.crt
cert server.crt
dh dh1024.pem
server 10.8.0.0 255.255.255.0
ifconfig-pool-persist ipp.txt
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persist-key
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verb 3
And on my client:
tls-client
dev tun
ca ca.crt
cert client1.crt
key client1.key
remote my-remote-host
proto tcp-client
port 1194
comp-lzo
ping 15
ping-restart 45
ping-timer-rem
persist-tun
persist-key
verb 3
I then ifconfig'ed the tun0 interface to be 10.8.0.2 =3D> 10.8.0.1.
Thanks!
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> This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear
> with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my
> site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me
> with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some
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It sounds like you might want a Wiki of some kind. Mediawiki and
MoinMoin are both good, and if you're dealing with source code take a
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phpBB is pretty decent, but I haven't used it in a while. Most CMS's
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Hi all
Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in /usr/src/?
grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result.
Kind regards
Unga
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On Jun 9, 2008, at 8:57 PM, Jake Evans wrote:
> I've had a few people complain that when they telnet/ssh/ftp/web to
> our server, it's slow... I've traced the problem to them having no
> reverse on their IPs.
You should configure your servers to not do the reverse lookup. Not
resolving is certainly the default for Apache. For sshd, set UseDNS
to "no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. As for telnet and ftp, I don't know
where that might be configured.
Of course I don't know your needs and situation, but some people might
consider it a reasonable policy to disallow ssh and telnet (and
certainly mail) from hosts that don't have proper PTR records.
-j
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Randy Pratt <bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:22:24 -0500
> Novembre <novembre@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
> > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
> time
> > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
> > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
> > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
> > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?
>
> If you are reading the mailing lists via the FreeBSD website
> (http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/current/freebsd-questions.html)
> you can use the "Raw E-Mail" link of a posting to fetch a
> copy and incorporate it into your mail client.
>
> Two common mail formats are pine mail (one file per folder),
> and MH mail (one file per message). I use Sylpheed which uses
> MH mail format so its quite easy. I created a folder called
> "Mail/web-list" and fetch the mail directly to it. The trick
> is to use the next numerical message number, in this example
> "114":
>
> cd ~/Mail/web-list
> fetch -R -o 114 '
> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=422834+0+current/freebsd-questions+raw
> '
>
> It is then possible to just use Sylpheed normally and click
> on "Reply to All". The mail will be properly threaded for
> the mailing lists.
>
> I've not used the "one file per folder" type of mail client
> in a very long time but I would think that just appending
> the new mail to the end would suffice.
>
> You will need to investigate how your particular mail client
> operates and what format it uses, but what you want to do
> is possible. I would recommend backing up your mail before
> experimenting and using the test mailing list
> (freebsd-test@freebsd.org).
>
> HTH,
>
> Randy
> --
>
The problem is that I don't use any mail client, but the old fashion way of
using a web browser to log into my account and read my emails. That's why I
asked this question in the first place. Call me paranoid, but I just feel
more comfortable that way!
So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list from
within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes? Is there any way to use the Raw
E-Mail output to send an email from within GMail to the OP and the list so
that it's threaded properly as well?
I will remember your instructions whenever I started using a mail client.
Maybe I should do it anyway --- how is Claw Mail?
Thanks a lot :)
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> Hi all
> Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in /usr/src/?
>
> grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result.
Try using a few spaces or TABs around '=' :)
The directory you want is `/usr/src/lib/msun'.
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> well it applied almost clean to FreeBSD 6.3!
>
> almost means i have to skip 2 patches to sctp_* files, as sctp doesn't
> exist in FreeBSD 6.*, everything else patched
>
> we will see after compiling.
Did it work? Did it work? Did it work?
(Or is the absence of a giant WOOOHOOO! the indicator that it didn't
work at all?)
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On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 11:50:45PM -0400, Andrew Berry wrote:
> On 9-Jun-08, at 5:31 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
>
> > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear
> > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my
> > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me
> > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some
> > people are taking a break for the summer, &c.
>
> It sounds like you might want a Wiki of some kind. Mediawiki and
> MoinMoin are both good, and if you're dealing with source code take a
> look at Trac.
>
> phpBB is pretty decent, but I haven't used it in a while. Most CMS's
> also include forums of some kind. I'm partial to Drupal, but there's a
> good selection of choices at http://www.opensourcecms.com/ , and many
> of the popular ones will be in the ports tree.
>
> --Andrew
hey, a kwik thankyew, andrew.... more tomorrow, ii dont know WHY
i've been this tired in recent weeks, but i am.
gary
ps: What a wealth of software; it boggles my mind.....
have just checked with my group. ....
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--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
> From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
> Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so?
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:19 PM
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT), Unga
> <unga888@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi all
> > Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in
> /usr/src/?
> >
> > grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result.
>
> Try using a few spaces or TABs around '=' :)
>
> The directory you want is `/usr/src/lib/msun'.
>
OK :) thanks for the reply.
Btw, is it a mistake a tab before the m in the Makefile or is it intentional?
/usr/src/lib/msun/Makefile
LIB= m
Regards
Unga
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>> exist in FreeBSD 6.*, everything else patched
>>
>> we will see after compiling.
>
> Did it work? Did it work? Did it work?
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> work at all?)
unfortunately not with 6.*, i was unable to complete patching by hand.
but it works in 7.*
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Hey,
> I was using it because I could then assign my laptop the same IP easily
> through my router (a separate device with DHCP) and also have hostnames
> pushed through DHCP. But I imagine in my case I could do the same thing
> with a tunnel.
Actually I don't think you can do the same thing with a tunnel. You have
to use a different IP addresses for the tunnel itself. Have you read the
OpenVPN manual?
> Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows up on the server, but on
> the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent.
This means that there is a problem with the OpenVPN connection. Can you show
the tail of your logs on both sides?
> proto tcp
Why are you using TCP anyway?
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people : I am facing a issue , in my FreeBSD server box the /var=
(85 % now) directory is going to full , no space left in this disk any=
more .
But I have another disk in my box which is of 140 GB fresh disk , this I h=
ave to add so I gone through=20
the FreeBSD hand book of adding a new disk .
According to docs I sliced and partitioned the second disk ,
one doubt : here I created 10GB bsd partition in the second disk ,
I have to assign o assign this for /var (in my first disk /var is going =
to full)=20
Q1 ) so in /etc/fstab , the mount point what I have to specify ? =20
/var itself or I need to create a directory (mkdir /myspace )=20
and add it as the mount point in /etc/fstab ? like this=20
/dev/da1s1e /myspace ufs rw 2 2
OR=20
/dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 =20
which one is correct ?
and after this editing of /etc/fstab and restarting of the machine .
Q 2 ) my serverbox how it will continue to use the newly added space ?=
for this I have to do any thing=20
some one told me that I have to copy all the contents of the /var of first=
disk to this newly added space=20
is it right ?
how to do that=20
Q3 ) dd /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1/e right ? (to copy the content=
from /var (/dev/da0s1d) of the first disk to the newly added space=
for var on the second disk (/dev/da1s1e )=20
Q4 ) Is it needed to install all the applications which already installed =
in the /var of the first disk to the newly=20
added space on the second disk?=20
please give your tips and advice to achieve what I am trying to do. Man=
y of you may have done this=20
before please help with your comments=20
Thanks in advance for all of you=20
Dhanesh
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Unga wrote:
| --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> wrote:
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|> From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
|> Subject: Re: Source directory of libm.so?
|> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
|> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:19 PM
|> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 (PDT), Unga
|> <unga888@yahoo.com> wrote:
|>> Hi all
|>> Where is the source directory of /lib/libm.so.x in
|> /usr/src/?
|>> grep -lr LIB=m /usr/src/ does not show any result.
|> Try using a few spaces or TABs around '=' :)
|>
|> The directory you want is `/usr/src/lib/msun'.
|>
|
| OK :) thanks for the reply.
|
| Btw, is it a mistake a tab before the m in the Makefile or is it
intentional?
It's quite usual in Makefiles to put tabs after the variable name in
assignment.
|
| /usr/src/lib/msun/Makefile
| LIB= m
|
| Regards
| Unga
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dhaneshk k wrote:
>
> people : I am facing a issue , in my FreeBSD server box the /var (85 % now) directory is going to full , no space left in this disk anymore .
>
> But I have another disk in my box which is of 140 GB fresh disk , this I have to add so I gone through
> the FreeBSD hand book of adding a new disk .
>
>
> According to docs I sliced and partitioned the second disk ,
>
> one doubt : here I created 10GB bsd partition in the second disk ,
>
> I have to assign o assign this for /var (in my first disk /var is going to full)
>
>
> Q1 ) so in /etc/fstab , the mount point what I have to specify ?
>
> /var itself or I need to create a directory (mkdir /myspace )
>
> and add it as the mount point in /etc/fstab ? like this
>
>
> /dev/da1s1e /myspace ufs rw 2 2
>
>
> OR
>
> /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
>
>
>
> which one is correct ?
>
>
>
> and after this editing of /etc/fstab and restarting of the machine .
>
>
> Q 2 ) my serverbox how it will continue to use the newly added space ? for this I have to do any thing
>
>
> some one told me that I have to copy all the contents of the /var of first disk to this newly added space
>
> is it right ?
>
> how to do that
>
>
> Q3 ) dd /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1/e right ? (to copy the content from /var (/dev/da0s1d) of the first disk to the newly added space for var on the second disk (/dev/da1s1e )
>
>
>
> Q4 ) Is it needed to install all the applications which already installed in the /var of the first disk to the newly
>
> added space on the second disk?
>
>
>
>
> please give your tips and advice to achieve what I am trying to do. Many of you may have done this
>
> before please help with your comments
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for all of you
> Dhanesh
>
>
>
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>
You will have to do something like the following:
- Mount the new partition to a temporary mount point (like /mnt) i.e.:
mount /dev/da1s1e /mnt
- Copy all the contents from /var to /mnt. Since /var is in use in a
running system, the results maybe less than optimal. I suggest you
switch to single user mode for doing this:
shutdown now
Use something like the following to transfer the files and permissions:
tar cfC - /var . | tar xpfC - /mnt
(thank you M.W. Lucas!)
Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var:
umount /var /mnt
mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var
Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk:
/dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
either exit to multi user mode or reboot. Of course, check that the
files were actually copied to their right places first!
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>>
>> more exact info please.
>>
>> gmirror status
>> mount or cat /etc/fstab
>
now much better - i know that you mirrored whole drives and then
partitioned.
are whole mirror labeled? if yes - what partition you have to trim down?
if now - where are place (give me bsdlabel gm0s1 output)
as you have 2 drives it's quite easy:
it would be like that:
gmirror remove gm0 ad6
gmirror forget ad6
gmirror clear /dev/ad6
gmirror label -b round-robin -s 1048576 m0 /dev/ad6
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
that's options i use, use what you think it's good for you.
now - you have 2 degraded mirrors. old - gm0, new - m0
now partition m0 as you like.
then - get the system down to single user, unmount everything except /,
make / read-only
then:
with partition that are same sized use dd if=/dev/oldpartition
of=/dev/newpartition bs=1m
others - use newfs and tar|tar to copy files
after all done, mount new root partition somewhere read write, and fix
etc/fstab
at the end - don't forget to bsdlabel -B
then reboot from ad6.
after successful boot:
gmirror stop gm0
gmirror clear ad4
gmirror insert m0 ad4
to get all new things mirrored.
PS. my advice. make one big partition+swap instead of so many. you won't
have such problems again
>
>
>
> Name Status Components
> mirror/gm0 COMPLETE ad4
> ad6
>
>
> # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1b none swap sw 0 0
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1a / ufs rw 1 1
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1h /exports ufs rw 2 2
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1g /home ufs rw 2 2
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /usr/local ufs rw 2 2
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /var ufs rw 2 2
> /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0
>
> #/dev/da0s1 /mnt/root ufs ro 0 0
> #/dev/da0s1b none swap sw 0 0
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| I'm new to FreeBSD and really attracted to it because of the
| performance and stability it provides. So I am looking to develop a
| high performance system that may need to process over 100K UDP
| messages per second and be able to store information quickly. I
| couldn't find much documentation on the memory limits in FreeBSD,
| especially per-process limits in both 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
| Could you please point me to where I can find such information along
| with other performance tuning tips and characteristics of the OS to
| keep in mind?
The first ones coming to my mind are getrlimit(2) + relatives and
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Hi, list,
Recently, I encounter a very annoying issue, when I try to
mount an ext2fs filesystem in laptop disk, after mounted it without any
errors, I can't access it, ls /mnt/da0s3 says "bad file
descriptor". In that disk, also has msdos and ufs fs, but they
work well.
I tried reformat whole disk, and fsck.ext2 -f that ext2fs
slice, nothing works at all.
But my a local disk has ext2fs too, it can be mounted and used
well, don't know why?
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On Tuesday 10 June 2008 07:37:56 anhnmncb wrote:
> Hi, list,
> Recently, I encounter a very annoying issue, when I try to
> mount an ext2fs filesystem in laptop disk, after mounted it without
> any errors, I can't access it, ls /mnt/da0s3 says "bad file
> descriptor". In that disk, also has msdos and ufs fs, but they
> work well.
> I tried reformat whole disk, and fsck.ext2 -f that ext2fs
> slice, nothing works at all.
> But my a local disk has ext2fs too, it can be mounted and used
> well, don't know why?
The same thing happens in here too ..
The same question It has also been posted in this list on Friday 09 May 2008
14:40:06 by Isaac Mushinsky and me, but nobody answered ...
On FreeBSD 7.0 i386 and Linux i386 in here, I get either get a 'Bad file
descriptor' for directory /linux' or
$ mount -t etx2fs /dev/ad0s7 /linux
$ ls /linux
No such file or directory
I've got all of my music, pdfs, pictures and on a ext3 and I only need to
mount it in order to get FreeBSD's Amarok access to my music collection.
If somebody has solution or a pointer to a solution or whatever may help on
this matter, I would greatly appreciate his/hers reply :)
Blessings
--
Gonzalo Nemmi
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> with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my
> site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me
> with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some=20
> people are taking a break for the summer, &c.
>=20
> I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for
> different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these
> ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others. =20
>=20
> Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to
> use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned
> (javascript or other) app?
>=20
> Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on,
> edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation.
> [for now, the URL would not be published.]
Have you looked at any wiki software? I have Dokuwiki running on an
Apache server here at the office as an idea and collaboration incubator.
There were over 1100 pages created on it the first year. It's all
written in PHP and was quite simple to set up. You can get it at
<http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwiki>.
Bob McConnell
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> exist in FreeBSD 6.*, everything else patched
>>>
>>> we will see after compiling.
>>
>> Did it work? Did it work? Did it work?
>>
>> (Or is the absence of a giant WOOOHOOO! the indicator that it didn't
>> work at all?)
>
> unfortunately not with 6.*, i was unable to complete patching by hand.
>
> but it works in 7.*
WOHOOOO!!!
;)
(....running off to try it) This is a HUGE step in aiding with
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Thanks, it works!
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I followed as per the directions up to this=20
=20
> Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var:
>=20
> umount /var /mnt
> mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var
>=20
> Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk:
>=20
> /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
I am able to umount /mnt but not /var=20
[root@storm ~]# umount /var/
umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
[root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/
[root@storm ~]# umount /var/
umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
[root@storm ~]# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% /
devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
/dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp
/dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr
/dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var
devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev
[root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1
ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f =20
[root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d=20
umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
[root@storm ~]# umouny /var/=20
bash: umouny: command not found
[root@storm ~]# umouny /var=20
bash: umouny: command not found
[root@storm ~]# umount /var
umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
[root@storm ~]# pwd
/root
[root@storm ~]# umount /var
umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
[root@storm ~]#=20
getting an error Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolic=
y.
Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How to fix this an=
d umount /var
=20
Any hints most welcome :=20
Thanks in advance=20
Dhanesh
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:52:41 +0300
> From: sonicy@otenet.gr
> To: dhaneshkk@hotmail.com
> CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first=
dislk : 4 questions
>=20
>=20
>=20
> dhaneshk k wrote:
> >
> > people : I am facing a issue , in my FreeBSD server box the =
/var (85 % now) directory is going to full , no space left in this disk=
anymore .
> >
> > But I have another disk in my box which is of 140 GB fresh disk , this=
I have to add so I gone through=20
> > the FreeBSD hand book of adding a new disk .
> >
> >
> > According to docs I sliced and partitioned the second disk ,
> >
> > one doubt : here I created 10GB bsd partition in the second disk =
,
> >
> > I have to assign o assign this for /var (in my first disk /var is go=
ing to full)=20
> >
> >
> > Q1 ) so in /etc/fstab , the mount point what I have to specify =
? =20
> >
> > /var itself or I need to create a directory (mkdir /myspace )=20
> >
> > and add it as the mount point in /etc/fstab ? like this=20
> >
> >
> > /dev/da1s1e /myspace ufs rw 2 2
> >
> >
> > OR=20
> >
> > /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 =20
> >
> >
> >
> > which one is correct ?
> >
> >
> >
> > and after this editing of /etc/fstab and restarting of the machine .
> >
> >
> > Q 2 ) my serverbox how it will continue to use the newly added spa=
ce ? for this I have to do any thing=20
> >
> >
> > some one told me that I have to copy all the contents of the /var of f=
irst disk to this newly added space=20
> >
> > is it right ?
> >
> > how to do that=20
> >
> >
> > Q3 ) dd /dev/da0s1d /dev/da1s1/e right ? (to copy the con=
tent from /var (/dev/da0s1d) of the first disk to the newly added s=
pace for var on the second disk (/dev/da1s1e )=20
> >
> >
> >
> > Q4 ) Is it needed to install all the applications which already instal=
led in the /var of the first disk to the newly=20
> >
> > added space on the second disk?=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > please give your tips and advice to achieve what I am trying to do. =
Many of you may have done this=20
> >
> > before please help with your comments=20
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for all of you=20
> > Dhanesh
> >
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> > =20
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> You will have to do something like the following:
>=20
> - Mount the new partition to a temporary mount point (like /mnt) i.e.:
>=20
> mount /dev/da1s1e /mnt
>=20
> - Copy all the contents from /var to /mnt. Since /var is in use in a=20
> running system, the results maybe less than optimal. I suggest you=20
> switch to single user mode for doing this:
>=20
> shutdown now
>=20
> Use something like the following to transfer the files and permissions:
>=20
> tar cfC - /var . | tar xpfC - /mnt
>=20
> (thank you M.W. Lucas!)
>=20
> Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var:
>=20
> umount /var /mnt
> mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var
>=20
> Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk:
>=20
> /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
>=20
> either exit to multi user mode or reboot. Of course, check that the=20
> files were actually copied to their right places first!
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"Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum" <bg271828@yahoo.com> writes:
> Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i
> think i do.
>
> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the
> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall"
> etc. message.
>
> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall,
> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing
> in UPDATING about this.
Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with
that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the
affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build
them over.
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> think i do.
>
> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the
> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall"
> etc. message.
>
> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall,
> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing
> in UPDATING about this.
Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with
that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the
affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build
them over.
I havent been able to figure out how to fix things with pkgdb. And i have tried, over and over, to remove the affected ports and build them from scratch but it hasnt been working.
So i went to libcdio and did a make deinstall, deleted the work files, and did a make install clean, and it installed fine. Then i tried to build gvfs, also by doing a make install clean, and it died in the same way--telling me to make deinstall and make reinstall of libcdio.
Ive tried this several times with no luck. If theres an even more brute force way id like to know what it is so i can do that. This is preventing a lot of other upgrades to GNOME, which i need.
Thanks!
Jen
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Hi all,
now I am taking a step back, instead of letting portmaster decides
which to upgrade, I use the option "-i" to interactively update the
ports. and I found out that "-uBdir" is different from "-u -B -d -i
-r", the latter one is the right way. I dont know how to use "-R"
option, since I have tried "-R -r" but portmaster still upgrade every
single port, With "-i" option, portmaster still re-upgrade gettext,
but at least it's moving to new ports that have not been upgraded.
this is just my two cents... thanks!
TFC
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Kitche <kitche@kitchetech.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to
>> gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster
>> -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is
>> interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow
>> skipping ports already up to date. so it becomes portmaster -uBdRr
>> gettext\* -x avifile, but i noticed that portmaster still
>> recompile/reinstall gettext and everything that needs it. how can I
>> get this done right?? thank you!!
>>
>> TFC
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> Yes I would like to know this as well to make sure I m doing it correctly.
>
>
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| Lowell Gilbert <freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org> wrote: "Dr.
Jennifer Nussbaum" writes:
|
|> Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At
least i
|> think i do.
|>
|> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it
dies in the
|> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to
make deinstall"
|> etc. message.
|>
|> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and
make reinstall,
|> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no
luck. Nothing
|> in UPDATING about this.
|
| Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with
| that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the
| affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build
| them over.
| I havent been able to figure out how to fix things with pkgdb. And i
have tried, over and over, to remove the affected ports and build them
from scratch but it hasnt been working.
|
| So i went to libcdio and did a make deinstall, deleted the work files,
and did a make install clean, and it installed fine. Then i tried to
build gvfs, also by doing a make install clean, and it died in the same
way--telling me to make deinstall and make reinstall of libcdio.
|
| Ive tried this several times with no luck. If theres an even more
brute force way id like to know what it is so i can do that. This is
preventing a lot of other upgrades to GNOME, which i need.
Not to point out the obvious, but you're sure your port tree is up-to-date?
|
| Thanks!
|
| Jen
|
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| Lowell Gilbert wrote: "Dr.
Jennifer Nussbaum" writes:
|
|> Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At
least i
|> think i do.
|>
|> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it
dies in the
|> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to
make deinstall"
|> etc. message.
|>
|> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and
make reinstall,
|> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no
luck. Nothing
|> in UPDATING about this.
|
| Sounds like the dependencies are confused. pkgdb(1) may help with
| that. If not, the brute force approach would be to remove the
| affected ports all the way back to (and including) libcdio, and build
| them over.
| I havent been able to figure out how to fix things with pkgdb. And i
have tried, over and over, to remove the affected ports and build them
from scratch but it hasnt been working.
|
| So i went to libcdio and did a make deinstall, deleted the work files,
and did a make install clean, and it installed fine. Then i tried to
build gvfs, also by doing a make install clean, and it died in the same
way--telling me to make deinstall and make reinstall of libcdio.
|
| Ive tried this several times with no luck. If theres an even more
brute force way id like to know what it is so i can do that. This is
preventing a lot of other upgrades to GNOME, which i need.
Not to point out the obvious, but you're sure your port tree is up-to-date?
Yes as i said in my first post i resynced ports before this, and just did it again to make sure. No changes to this port or any of the others involved.
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Hiya
I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info
but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got
the answer.
My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I
took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server
and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test
server has no raid hardware.
During boot I see this
ad0: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata0-master UDMA66
ad1: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata0-slave UDMA66
ad2: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata1-master UDMA66
ad3: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata1-slave UDMA66
ar0: 76319MB <Adaptec HostRAID RAID1> status: BROKEN
ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer
a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and
pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this,
both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just
removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of
ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other
purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid
pair)
I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable
'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
thanks for your help
--
DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor
Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research
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Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio. At least i
> think i do.
>
> When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it dies in the
> end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to make deinstall"
> etc. message.
>
> But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and make reinstall,
> and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but no luck. Nothing
> in UPDATING about this.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jen
>
>
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I've run into similar experiences with other ports, and what I have done
to get it to work is to deinstall the complaining port (in this instance
libcdio), and let the original port install it as a dependency instead
of doing a "make reinstall".
Best regards,
Greg Groth
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Subject: Re: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first
dislk : but umount /var failed
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dhaneshk k wrote:
>
> I followed as per the directions up to this
>
>
>> Now, unmount /var and /mnt and mount your new var:
>>
>> umount /var /mnt
>> mount -o rw /dev/da1s1e /var
>>
>> Edit /etc/fstab and update it for the new disk:
>>
>> /dev/da1s1e /var ufs rw 2 2
>>
>
>
> I am able to umount /mnt but not /var
>
>
>
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var/
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var/
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
> /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% /
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
> /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp
> /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr
> /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev
> [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1
> ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f
> [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/
> bash: umouny: command not found
> [root@storm ~]# umouny /var
> bash: umouny: command not found
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# pwd
> /root
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]#
>
>
>
> getting an error Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy.
>
> Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How to fix this and umount /var
>
>
>
>
>
Notice I have asked you to switch to single user mode before copying or
unmounting var.
But from your prompt, I understand you are still running full multiuser,
and of course, /var will not unmount then.
Remount /usr and issue the command:
shutdown now
to switch to single user mode. You need console access for this, do not
attempt it remotely (unless you have a serial console) !
Then continue from the point you copy the data using the tar command. If
you have already copied data from /var to the new partition, this may
well be stale since /var was in use. You may wish to newfs the new
partition again in this case.
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> The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer
> a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and
> pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype.
actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is
almostnothing to process.
> purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid
> pair)
>
> I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable
> 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
erase the whole drive.
and next time don't use "hardware" RAID anymore. use gmirror and gstripe
to have PORTABLE RAID.
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote:
> Hiya
>
> I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info
> but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got
> the answer.
>
> My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I
> took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server
> and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test
> server has no raid hardware.
>
> During boot I see this
> ad0: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata0-master UDMA66
> ad1: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata0-slave UDMA66
> ad2: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata1-master UDMA66
> ad3: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata1-slave UDMA66
> ar0: 76319MB <Adaptec HostRAID RAID1> status: BROKEN
> ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
> ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
>
> The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer
> a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and
> pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
>
> Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this,
> both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just
> removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of
> ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other
> purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid
> pair)
>
> I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable
> 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it is
least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or boot
loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you will
probably be fine.
(If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the
information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the extra
advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work
correctly.)
For the first you could do something like:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m skip=76318
which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros.
To erase all of the disk:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m
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> >
> > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer
> > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and
> > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
>
> there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype.
Most (cheap) RAID controllers do almost everything in software. Some do have
hardware support.
> actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is
> almostnothing to process.
For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support.
If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice
(once to each disk), while with hardware support for RAID you only need
to transfer the data once. If the controller resides on a PCI-bus together
with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced
bandwidth usage can be very useful.
(And for RAID you will need at least some support on the controller
if you want to be able to boot from a striped volume.)
>
> > purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid
> > pair)
> >
> > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable
> > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
> erase the whole drive.
>
> and next time don't use "hardware" RAID anymore. use gmirror and gstripe
> to have PORTABLE RAID.
--
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> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote:
>
>> Hiya
>>
>> I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info
>> but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got
>> the answer.
>>
>> My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I
>> took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server
>> and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test
>> server has no raid hardware.
>>
>> During boot I see this
>> ad0: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata0-master UDMA66
>> ad1: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata0-slave UDMA66
>> ad2: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata1-master UDMA66
>> ad3: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata1-slave UDMA66
>> ar0: 76319MB <Adaptec HostRAID RAID1> status: BROKEN
>> ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
>> ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
>>
>> The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer
>> a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and
>> pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
>>
>> Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this,
>> both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just
>> removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of
>> ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other
>> purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid
>> pair)
>>
>> I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable
>> 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
>>
>
> That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it is
> least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or boot
> loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you will
> probably be fine.
> (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the
> information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the extra
> advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work
> correctly.)
>
> For the first you could do something like:
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m skip=76318
> which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros.
>
> To erase all of the disk:
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m
>
>
>
I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" RAID
controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD system, it
was immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages started coming
in, like in your case. Although I ended up removing the ar device from
the kernel (I was going to use gmirror), I found out that there is
possibly another way to make the disks forget about their previous
RAID-life:
atacontrol delete ar0
Have a look at man atacontrol. I have not tried it, but it is probably
worth a try.
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x> hardware support.
>
>> actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is
>> almostnothing to process.
>
> For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support.
> If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice
> (once to each disk),
in parallel
> while with hardware support for RAID you only need
> to transfer the data once.
which saves at most 100MB/s bandwidth - compare this to 5-10GB/s in modern
machines.
If the controller resides on a PCI-bus together
> with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced
> bandwidth usage can be very useful.
true. but not if it's builtin in chipset or on PCI express.
there are really not worth price. unless you need RAID-5.
but with todays disk prices it's better to just use RAID-1+0 and bigger
drives.
with software RAID you are not forced to operate on whole disks. usually
not everything has to be mirrored.
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> I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)" RAID
> controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD system, it was
> immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages started coming in, like
is there actually any difference in ar and gmirror/gstripe except that ar
is simpler, takes only whole drives and use "hardware RAID ;)" compatible
headers ?
> make the disks forget about their previous RAID-life:
>
> atacontrol delete ar0
>
> Have a look at man atacontrol. I have not tried it, but it is probably worth
> a try.
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my computer is NOT set up as DNS server for any domain.
why they are asking?
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I've gone from using CAT5 to 802.11g for my laptop's network connectivity
while I'm at home. Unfortunately, since I've done so, my connection
drops from time to time, and I usually don't notice for a while. The
period between drops does not seem to be constant, however, as I lost my
connection at some point yesterday without noticing, but when I did
notice I reestablished contact, then lost my connection again a few
minutes later. The connection has not dropped again since then, however.
I'm using an Intel 2200BG adapter (Centrino chipset) with WPA encryption
and the wpa_supplicant connection manager. My wpa_supplicant.conf:
ctrl_interface=3D/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=3Dwheel
# netwerk
network=3D{
ssid=3D"netwerk"
psk=3D"ssdpbwqaougj6hr9"
}
(PSK changed to protect the guilty)
When the connection drops, I get the following in /var/log/messages:
Jun 9 23:14:21 hostname kernel: iwi0: link state changed to DOWN
Jun 9 23:14:28 hostname kernel: iwi0: scan stuck
Jun 9 23:14:34 hostname kernel: iwi0: could not allocate firmware DMA
memory
(watch the line wrap)
In case it isn't obvious, "iwi0" is my wireless interface.
All /va/log/dmesg seems to show is this:
iwi0: link state changed to DOWN
iwi0: scan stuck
Any ideas on where to go from here would be appreciated. Is this a
driver bug, or am I doing something wrong? Another (effectively
identical) laptop running Debian does not have this problem.
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>
>> I recently removed one pair of disks from a windows "hardware :)"
>> RAID controller, and upon inserting it into a newly built FreeBSD
>> system, it was immediately detected by the ar driver, and messages
>> started coming in, like
>
> is there actually any difference in ar and gmirror/gstripe except that
> ar is simpler, takes only whole drives and use "hardware RAID ;)"
> compatible headers ?
>
>> make the disks forget about their previous RAID-life:
>>
>> atacontrol delete ar0
>>
>> Have a look at man atacontrol. I have not tried it, but it is
>> probably worth a try.
>
>
I've used gmirror on several occasions, and it works well for me. I have
never used ar, but as I understand this is limited to ata disks (hence
ar=atapi raid). The geom framework probably provides a lot more features
and is not limited the way ar is. I would not mind using ar in this
particular system, but I moved disks one by one, erasing the first one
(ar was still complaining about the other one missing after I erased it)
and when I later added the second one, I got a kernel panic. Mind you,
the ar "signature" or whatever was written in a windows system and may
not have been exactly compatible. I removed ar from the kernel and
continued with my usual gmirror stuff (which works flawlessly)
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My preferred firewall these days, for general use, is pf. I seem to
recall someone who has used it in high-load scenarios that it can kinda
choke at high loads, though I don't recall whether that was due to pf
itself or the fact he was running it on OpenBSD. Until now, this has not
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I may be getting involved in a commercial project in the near future that
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for this project, but I don't want to discover after we're well underway
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> i'm getting lots of things like this in logs:
>
> Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache)
> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied
Post:
# ifconfig -a
# netstat -na | grep 53
Looks like named may be listening publicly on IPv6, but then refusing
the requests.
Is dns.tensor.gdynia.pl the same box as wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl? Did you
make any addressing changes around the time you started noticing this?
Steve
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> Subject: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var=20
> on first dislk : but umount /var failed
>=20
> I am able to umount /mnt but not /var=20
>=20
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var/
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var/
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
> /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% /
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
> /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp
> /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr
> /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev
> [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1
> ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f =20
> [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d=20
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/=20
> bash: umouny: command not found
> [root@storm ~]# umouny /var=20
> bash: umouny: command not found
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# pwd
> /root
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]#=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> getting an error Error=20
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy.
>=20
> Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How=20
> to fix this and umount /var
> =20
>=20
> Any hints most welcome :=20
Did you switch to single user-mode (shutdown now) before trying to
umount /var? If you did, there may be some other process still using
files/dirs in "/var". If you have lsof installed
(/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof), you can identify (as root) which process
still using stuff in /var:
santafe# lsof +D /var/
COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
dhclient 321 _dhcp cwd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty
dhclient 321 _dhcp rtd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty
dhclient 321 _dhcp jld VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty
dhclient 321 _dhcp 6w VREG 0,100 1007 14582324
/var/db/dhclient.leases.msk0
devd 537 root 4u unix 0xc6a78188 0t0
/var/run/devd.pipe
devd 537 root 5w VREG 0,100 3 14580313
/var/run/devd.pid
syslogd 603 root 3w VREG 0,100 3 14580315
/var/run/syslog.pid
syslogd 603 root 4u unix 0xc6a84310 0t0
/var/run/log
syslogd 603 root 5u unix 0xc6a84188 0t0
/var/run/logpriv
...
Stop the processes (dhclient, devd, syslogd, etc.) that still use /var
and then try to umount it again.
Hope this helps - Tobias
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Hello.
I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an old compac server.
The server has a SCSI controller (if I'm not wrong is
the Compaq SMART 3200 Controller) that at times I'd like
to check if the status is still ok or somehow degraded.
The OS is accessing it using the ida driver.
Do anybody know how to achive it?
Thank you in advance.
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On 10-Jun-08, at 11:37 AM, Bob McConnell wrote:
> I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which
> Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your
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> Can
> anyone tell me what is causing this?
I typically sign my messages with S/Mime:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME
It means that not only can my message be verified by nearly every
client, but messages can be easily encrypted to me as well (since the
public key is included in the signature). Usually this works fine with
Mailman and other mailing lists; the worst I've seen is that
Sourceforge will mangle the text adding their advertisement,
invalidating the signature. Other software tends to add footers as a
separate MIME part.
Looking in the source of one of my previous messages, I see that the
following header is set, but that the corresponding signature
attachment has been stripped:
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micalg=sha1;
protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"
Perhaps your mail client is picking up on this header and
misinterpreting it? What mail client are you using?
--Andrew
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: query (cache)
> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882: query (cache)
> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN' denied
>
>
>
> my computer is NOT set up as DNS server for any domain.
>
> why they are asking?
Because your computer is reachable on either
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
or
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2
and that pesky set of parent zone DNS servers insists on handing those
addresses out in NS records?
Aha, found the matching log entries on my side:
Jun 10 15:14:33 billow named[581]: client 192.168.43.18#45589: query:
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl IN AAAA +
Jun 10 15:14:33 billow named[581]: client 192.168.43.19#1873: query:
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl IN ANY +
Jun 10 15:14:34 billow named[581]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving
'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN': 2001:4070:101:2::1#53
Jun 10 15:14:34 billow named[581]: unexpected RCODE (REFUSED) resolving
'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN': 2001:4070:101:2::1#53
Hmmm...different IP address. Hmmm..... Hey, what about you look at
what bilbo.nask.org.pl. is returning when asked for your nameservers:
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl.
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl.
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns.tensor.gdynia.pl.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 213.192.74.1
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.18.148.142
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.12.228.78
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
Inconsistent from some of your other parents. Might want to clean up a
bit. ;-)
--Jon Radel
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I am running a FreeBSD 7.0 system and I'm having the hardest time trying
to get java to work (I'm sure this has been brought up before - but a
google search did not reveal anything). My problem is that I can't find
the JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0 that it mentions on the
build (/usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15). I've looked on the Java Sun website,
and they don't have the correct version, it seems they have a newer one.
Would this still work??
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Camilo
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"Tsu-Fan Cheng" <tfcheng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> just noticed that I need to update a whole bunch of ports due to
> gettext issue, I am used to portmaster and henceforth exec portmaster
> -uBdr gettext\* -x avifile to server this need. however, the update is
> interrupted and needed to restart, I noticed an option (-R) to allow
> skipping ports already up to date.
AFAIK all the ports that depend on gettext were version-bumped, so it's
not essential to force the upgrade. In other words you can just update
those ports that are still out-of-date -just like any other update.
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Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:33:47PM +0200, DA Forsyth wrote:
>> Hiya
>>
>> I've had this for a while now and have done many searches for info=20
>> but have not yet come up with the right question, hence have not got=20
>> the answer.
>>
>> My main server has an Adaptec IDE raid card. A couple of years ago I =
>> took disks that had been a mirror pair on that card out of the server =
>> and put them into my test server, not as a raid pair since the test=20
>> server has no raid hardware.
>>
>> During boot I see this
>> ad0: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata0-master UDMA66
>> ad1: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata0-slave UDMA66
>> ad2: 76319MB <WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 77.07W77> at ata1-master UDMA66
>> ad3: 19092MB <WDC WD200EB-00CPF0 06.04G06> at ata1-slave UDMA66
>> ar0: 76319MB <Adaptec HostRAID RAID1> status: BROKEN
>> ar0: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
>> ar0: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
>>
>> The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer =
>> a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and=20
>> pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
>>
>> Now I am reconfiguring that machine a bit and would like to fix this, =
>> both on these existing drives and on the 320MB drive I have just=20
>> removed from a RAID1 pair and will be putting into the box instead of =
>> ad3 (the other 320GB from the pair is in a USB enclosure for other=20
>> purposes and has not shown any signs of knowing it was in a raid=20
>> pair)
>>
>> I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable =
>> 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
>=20
> That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it i=
s
> least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or bo=
ot
> loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you=
will
> probably be fine.
> (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the
> information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the e=
xtra
> advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work
> correctly.)
>=20
> For the first you could do something like:
> dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad1 bs=3D1m skip=3D76318
> which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros.
>=20
> To erase all of the disk:
> dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/ad1 bs=3D1m
It's rather easier and quite a lot less risky to simply do:
# atacontrol delete ar0
Cheers,
Matthew
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Camilo Reyes wrote:
> I am running a FreeBSD 7.0 system and I'm having the hardest time trying
> to get java to work (I'm sure this has been brought up before - but a
> google search did not reveal anything). My problem is that I can't find
> the JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0 that it mentions on the
> build (/usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15). I've looked on the Java Sun website,
> and they don't have the correct version, it seems they have a newer one.
> Would this still work??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Camilo
> "Bono Vince Malum"
>
>
>
I've installed the diablo-jre15 port two days ago (on the 8th). I
downloaded this:
tzupdater-1_3_5-2008b.zip
And the version of the port is:
diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10
Have you used csup/portsnap to update your ports tree? You might be
trying to compile an older version.
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Chad Perrin wrote:
> My preferred firewall these days, for general use, is pf. I seem to
> recall someone who has used it in high-load scenarios that it can kinda=
> choke at high loads, though I don't recall whether that was due to pf
> itself or the fact he was running it on OpenBSD. Until now, this has n=
ot
> been a concern for me.
>=20
> I may be getting involved in a commercial project in the near future th=
at
> could very well involve handling very large numbers of connections
> dealing with potentially high bandwidth demands, however. The
> circumstances would require some QOS, and I'm thinking of using pf/ALTQ=
> for this project, but I don't want to discover after we're well underwa=
y
> that large numbers of connections would cause problems. Should I
> consider ipfw or ipfilter instead, or are my concerns with relation to
> pf's ability to handle extremely high loads of legitimate traffic
> unfounded?
>=20
pf will perform very well. I don't know if anyone has benchmarked it
against ipfw, but I suspect that any difference in performance is pretty
minimal. If you're just doing packet filtering and using a fairly run of=
the mill modern machine, you should be able to keep up with Gb wire speed=
without problems.
If performance is a limiting factor, then review your rule sets carefully=
:
arranging things so that the most popular traffic types are handled as=20
early as possible, knowing when to use tables vs. use address-list macros=
=20
and judicious use of quick rules can make quite a difference.
Also, /stateful/ rules are generally faster than stateless once you've go=
t
beyond the initial packet that establishes the state. Looking stuff up
in the state table is quicker and takes place earlier in the processing=20
sequence than traversing the rulesets.
High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns.=
I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in
situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume
network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall=20
machine is dedicated to running pf and it has hundreds of MB if not GB o=
f=20
RAM, then upping the size of some of those parameters by an order of=20
magnitude is feasible, and works well.
On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more
manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock
yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset.
Cheers,
Matthew
--=20
Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard
Flat 3
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Kent, CT11 9PW
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> Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your
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>
Apparently Outlook thinks the message is encrypted, and it can't find your
private key to decrypt it. Considering the tons of problems we have with
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Sorry.. I meant *RAID* SCSI controller.. and the raid
I'd like to check is RAID 1.
--
Robi
Roberto Nunnari wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an old compac server.
>
> The server has a SCSI controller (if I'm not wrong is
> the Compaq SMART 3200 Controller) that at times I'd like
> to check if the status is still ok or somehow degraded.
>
> The OS is accessing it using the ida driver.
>
> Do anybody know how to achive it?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
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Andrew,
I have Outlook/Office 2003 SP3 with an Exchange server. Unfortunately,
that means I do not have access to the raw messages, nor can I look at
the full set of footers. Someone suggested your signature may be getting
mangled by the listserve. Another reply said they have never seen any of
your messages, so their SPAM filter appears to be blocking you.
Bob McConnell
-----Original Message-----
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On 10-Jun-08, at 11:37 AM, Bob McConnell wrote:
> I have gotten several messages on this list from an Andrew Barry which
> Lookout cannot open. The error message is "Can't open this item. Your
> Digital ID name can not be found by the underlying security system." =20
> Can
> anyone tell me what is causing this?
I typically sign my messages with S/Mime:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME
It means that not only can my message be verified by nearly every =20
client, but messages can be easily encrypted to me as well (since the =20
public key is included in the signature). Usually this works fine with =20
Mailman and other mailing lists; the worst I've seen is that =20
Sourceforge will mangle the text adding their advertisement, =20
invalidating the signature. Other software tends to add footers as a =20
separate MIME part.
Looking in the source of one of my previous messages, I see that the =20
following header is set, but that the corresponding signature =20
attachment has been stripped:
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micalg=3Dsha1;
protocol=3D"application/pkcs7-signature"
Perhaps your mail client is picking up on this header and =20
misinterpreting it? What mail client are you using?
--Andrew
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--On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 13:00:13 -0400 Bob McConnell <rvm@CBORD.com> wrote:
> Andrew,
>
> I have Outlook/Office 2003 SP3 with an Exchange server. Unfortunately,
> that means I do not have access to the raw messages, nor can I look at
> the full set of footers. Someone suggested your signature may be getting
> mangled by the listserve. Another reply said they have never seen any of
> your messages, so their SPAM filter appears to be blocking you.
>
The message that Andrew sent in response to you did not have a digital
signature on it. I don't know if that means it was stripped by the list
software or he didn't sign the message.
Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body that it was
signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you what's going on.
--
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dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
> I just discovered that firefox can save motion video
> in addition to displaying it. But I don't know how
> to play back the saved video.cgi file. Mplayer
> complains about missing configuration data.
>
> Does anyone know how to play back the file saved
> by firefox?
In this instance, firefox is simply saving the stream of data from the
server, and giving it a name that matches the last path component in the
URL (in this case, video.cgi). The format of the file is not likely to
be understood by anything other than firefox (at least, as I've found),
as it is most likely a multipart/mime-encoded file containing a sequence
of images, like from an internet-enabled webcam.
Your best bet, if this is the case, is to use a mime parser to extract
each of the individual pictures from the file, then use a proper video
encoder to glue them together with the appropriate metadata to allow
video players to understand them. Mplayer's mencoder can do so, and can
even encode to MJPEG, for little to no loss in quality; although you may
have issues choosing a proper framerate, as mime-based image streaming
isn't always stable.
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> > Because the ZFS checksumming makes the FS selfhealing. Chance for
>
> selfhealing WHAT?!
>
> could you please instead of repeating sun marketing text like all
> others tell something clearer?
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I have linux-firefox-2.0.0.14 installed.
I also downloaded install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz from Adobe site,
unpacked and placed libflashplayer.so into:
/usr/local/lib/linux-firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
But firefox (/usr/local/bin/linux-firefox) doesn't pick it up and flash
sites don't work.
How to make Flash plugin work?
I recall on Linux it's enough to just drop libflashplayer.so into
plugins directory somewhere under lib and it works.
Yuri
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--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Nejc =C5=A0koberne <nejc@skoberne.net> wrote:
=20
> Actually I don't think you can do the same thing with a
> tunnel. You have
> to use a different IP addresses for the tunnel itself. Have
> you read the
> OpenVPN manual?
>=20
> > Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows
> up on the server, but on=20
> > the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent.
>=20
> This means that there is a problem with the OpenVPN
> connection. Can you show
> the tail of your logs on both sides?
>=20
> > proto tcp
>=20
> Why are you using TCP anyway?
>=20
> Bye,
> Nejc
Hi Andrew, Nejc, All
I just built my first FreeBSD 7.0 machine to test OpenVPN on it
It was a nice way to review/fix my OpenVPN page
I forgot to stress how important the sysctl setting is for net.inet.ip.forw=
arding
The default is disabled (0) and I to could not connect beyond the OpenVPN s=
erver=20
I'm editing the page now to include something like this
Make sure IP Forwarding is enabled
Check it with
sysctl -a |grep net.inet.ip.f
Set it with
sysctl inet.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1
or
Alternatively set it by adding this to /etc/sysctl.conf
net.inet.ip.forwarding=3D1
I hope this helps
Take care
Steve=0A=0A=0A
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:13:31PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> x> hardware support.
> >
> >> actually there is not much need to have it for RAID-0/1/10 where there is
> >> almostnothing to process.
> >
> > For mirrors it can actually be a big win with hardware support.
> > If you use software RAID then you will have to perform each write twice
> > (once to each disk),
> in parallel
> > while with hardware support for RAID you only need
> > to transfer the data once.
>
> which saves at most 100MB/s bandwidth - compare this to 5-10GB/s in modern
> machines.
You do not normally have that much bandwidth even in a modern machine.
Typical bandwidth for the northbridge/southbridge connection is 1-2 GB/s
for most machines sold today. (For example just about all machines with
a recent Intel desktop chipset. The connection between north- and south-bridge
on those is equivalent to a PCI-E x4 connection (which provides 1GB/s in each
direction.))
And that is for modern machines. Older ones have even less bandwidth
available.
>
> If the controller resides on a PCI-bus together
> > with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced
> > bandwidth usage can be very useful.
>
> true. but not if it's builtin in chipset or on PCI express.
PCI-E controller cards are still fairly uncommon, and many of them
require a x4 or x8 slot, while most motherboards only have x1 slots
(apart from the x16 slot intended for a graphics card.)
(And PCI-express is still fairly new, so there are lots of computers
in use that do not have any PCI-E slots at all.)
If you go back just a few years you will find that chipset itself
provides only two IDE-channels and nothing more.
Any other devices reside on a single PCI-bus (which provides a total
bandwidth of 133MB/s.)
>
>
> there are really not worth price. unless you need RAID-5.
>
> but with todays disk prices it's better to just use RAID-1+0 and bigger
> drives.
That depends on what your goals are, and what constraints you operate under.
RAID 10 is nice, but it requires more disks then RAID5. Extra disks create
extra noise and require more power and generate more heat and (most
importantly) require extra space. There are a limited amount of space
available in most computer cases, which might not be able to accomodate
the extra disks needed for RAID10.
>
> with software RAID you are not forced to operate on whole disks. usually
> not everything has to be mirrored.
If you have reason to use mirroring at all, then I would say that just about
everything should be mirrored.
(RAID is in no way a substitute for backups. The main reason for using RAID
is either performance (which is often better served by several independent
disks anyway) or to minimise downtime. If some parts of your disks are not
mirrored then you be able to avoid that downtime anyway.)
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 09:16:43AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> I've gone from using CAT5 to 802.11g for my laptop's network connectivity
> while I'm at home. Unfortunately, since I've done so, my connection
> drops from time to time, and I usually don't notice for a while. The
> period between drops does not seem to be constant, however, as I lost my
> connection at some point yesterday without noticing, but when I did
> notice I reestablished contact, then lost my connection again a few
> minutes later. The connection has not dropped again since then, however.
Well, it dropped a few more times today -- but I seem to have found a
problem (with the help of ##FreeBSD on irc) that is related:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D102760
It seems the mystery has been solved. Now I just have to get the fixed
driver.
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Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Matthias Apitz wrote:
>> El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz
>> escribió:
>>
>>
>>> El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
>>>> At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a
>>>> few on ebay).
>>>> Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a
>>>> resolution of 1024x600.
>>>> 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> Maybe you know this page, Manolis:
>>
>> http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/
>>
>> it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB
>> model is made of;
>>
>
> Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read.
>> a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version:
>> http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w
>>
>
> There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear in
> Greek eshops soon.
>> take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh
>> (because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have
>> had a 5800 mAh battery;
>>
>> matthias
>>
>
> I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The one
> I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it has the
> same 4400mAh battery. The larger screen and SSD will probably make this
> even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I really like to work the
> eee on battery only. In fact having to carry only this small laptop
> instead of all the usual accessories is a big plus to me.
>
> On a side note, I am thinking of writing a complete article about
> installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and
> optimizations, different installations methods, with links to download
> ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it will have any
> real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux distro on it or even
> (gasp) Windows...
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Aloha,
I would be interested in a how to for FreeBSD on the Asus eee
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Al Plant wrote:
> Manolis Kiagias wrote:
>> Matthias Apitz wrote:
>>> El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz
>>> escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>> El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias
>>>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
>>>>> At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted
>>>>> a few on ebay).
>>>>> Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a
>>>>> resolution of 1024x600.
>>>>> 800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe you know this page, Manolis:
>>>
>>> http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/
>>>
>>> it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900
>>> 20GB
>>> model is made of;
>>>
>>
>> Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read.
>>> a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version:
>>> http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w
>>>
>>
>> There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear
>> in Greek eshops soon.
>>> take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh
>>> (because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model
>>> have
>>> had a 5800 mAh battery;
>>>
>>> matthias
>>>
>>
>> I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The
>> one I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it
>> has the same 4400mAh battery. The larger screen and SSD will
>> probably make this even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I
>> really like to work the eee on battery only. In fact having to carry
>> only this small laptop instead of all the usual accessories is a big
>> plus to me.
>>
>> On a side note, I am thinking of writing a complete article about
>> installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and
>> optimizations, different installations methods, with links to
>> download ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it
>> will have any real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux
>> distro on it or even (gasp) Windows...
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> Aloha,
>
>
> I would be interested in a how to for FreeBSD on the Asus eee
>
OK, I am already set to write this. My time is kind of limited until the
end of June, but I'll try to start on this ASAP.
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I disabled signing when sending that message, just so my response
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Typo on my last name :)
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Subject: Re: viewing vCalendar files
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On 10-Jun-08, at 1:47 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> I've been sent a vCalendar file via email. I use mutt as my mail user
> agent, and am not terribly interested in switching to mail/claws-mail
> just so I can read this vCalendar file (generated in MS Outlook).
>
> Is there some command line tool that will create a readable text file
> from this, a Mutt extension that can handle it, or anything along
> those
> lines, in Ports? What are my options, besides just deleting all the
> vCalendar markup cruft by hand (or writing a script to do it for me)?
If you just need to read it, then open it up in a text editor.
vCalendar / iCalendar markup is pretty simple. Virtually any
calendaring app should be able to read the file, including Mozilla
Sunbird, Evolution, Kontact, and so on. There are also web calendars
such as Webcalendar in ports, or you could just use Google Calendar.
If the sender is expecting a vCal file back to confirm / deny the
appointment, then you'll need to make sure that you send back a valid
file.
--Andrew
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I have seen many posts and articles floating around that deals with
this issue, so id like to know how to get around it, without the need
to disable legacy support?
amt my only work around is disabling legacy support, unplugging ALL
USB devices then FreeBSD not only installs without causing a panic as
well as runs, but it detects all the USB devices AFTER boot has been
done, how ever X dosent seem to want to recognise it.
There other issues, however with having to swap from 1 comp to
another running from FreeBSD, i have no ability to paste dmesg or
anything like that.
ports & world are upto date as of 2 days ago .. however i am unable
to configure the kernel, so its using factory defaults that came with
6.3-RELEASE a few mnths ago .. issues with that are related to
various options not beign able to determine size.
I understand a lot of this is vague, but more information can be
provided if needs be.
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--On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry
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> On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
>> Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body
>> that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you
>> what's going on.
>
> Here is a message which has been signed.
>
There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere.
This line in the headers looks to be the culprit:
X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5
That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME.
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The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 on your kernel.
There is a good guide here:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html.
Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line from your config file. Also,
you could give more information on what application is generating those
logs. For example, what services are you running? Is this setup as a
server? And things of that sort.
Camilo
"Bono Vince Malum"
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:18:25 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Wojciech Puchar
> <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
> Subject: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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>
> i'm getting lots of things like this in logs:
>
> Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache)
> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache)
> 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache)
> 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache)
> 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:13:52 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache)
> 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:13:53 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:265#60123: query (cache)
> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:08 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2a01:170:102f::2#53539: query
> (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:12 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:648:2000:de::220#49152:
> query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN'
> denied
> Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query
> (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query
> (cache) 'dns.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query
> (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/A/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:13 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:6b0:b:2::10#63014: query
> (cache) 'dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:22 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:470:1f08:251::2#46902:
> query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN'
> denied
> Jun 10 17:14:22 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:418:c01::5#53208: query
> (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN' denied
> Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882:
> query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/AAAA/IN'
> denied
> Jun 10 17:14:32 wojtek named[909]: client
> 2001:4830:167d:5237::3:1#59882:
> query (cache) 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/ANY/IN'
> denied
>
>
>
> my computer is NOT set up as DNS server for any domain.
>
> why they are asking?
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quick question I can't seem to figure out
I have a FreeBSD 7 computer and I am having trouble with dhclient
here is my setup
Ethernet cable directly from fxp0 to a DSL Modem(that serves 192.168.0.x via
DHCP)
A wireless card(ral0) in hostap mode it has a static ip of 192.168.1.1. I
have dhcpd running and configured to listen on ral0 interface. it is
supposed to had out DHCP(192.168.1.x) to wifi clients.
fxp0 needs to use dhclient to obtain a IP from the DSL modem
the problem is, if I run dhclient fxp0, I get a reply from the ral0 dhcpd
server.
how do I tell fxp0 to forget about ral0 and listen for the DSL modem's dhcp
server ?
isn't there some quick dhclient.conf setting?
Sam Fourman Jr.
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> quick question I can't seem to figure out
> I have a FreeBSD 7 computer and I am having trouble with dhclient
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> here is my setup
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> fxp0 needs to use dhclient to obtain a IP from the DSL modem
> the problem is, if I run dhclient fxp0, I get a reply from=20
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> isn't there some quick dhclient.conf setting?
man dhclient.conf suggests you should use:
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> >Is there some command line tool that will create a readable text file
> >from this, a Mutt extension that can handle it, or anything along =20
> >those
> >lines, in Ports? What are my options, besides just deleting all the
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I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single
filesystem install checks it in foreground.
If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked?
Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked?
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Martin Cracauer wrote:
| I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
| which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single
| filesystem install checks it in foreground.
|
| If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked?
|
| Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked?
AFAIK, UFS supports background checks as long as the fstab entries don't
include the async option.
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| Thanks
| Martin
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Pietro Cerutti wrote on Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:52:27PM +0200:
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> Martin Cracauer wrote:
> | I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
> | which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single
> | filesystem install checks it in foreground.
> |
> | If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked?
> |
> | Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked?
>
> AFAIK, UFS supports background checks as long as the fstab entries don't
> include the async option.
I certainly don't get background fsck as-is, never.
Maybe there's something wrong with this fstab line?
/dev/ad0s1a / ufs rw 1 1
That's the only filesystem in that machine.
Thanks
Martin
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Written by Pietro Cerutti on 06/10/08 16:52>>
> Martin Cracauer wrote:
> | I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
> | which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single
> | filesystem install checks it in foreground.
> |
> | If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked?
> |
> | Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked?
>
> AFAIK, UFS supports background checks as long as the fstab entries don't
> include the async option.
>
fsck_ffs(8):
To be eligible for background cleaning it must have been running
with soft updates, not have been marked as needing a foreground
check, and be mounted and writable when the background check is
to be done. If these conditions are met, then fsck_ffs exits
with a zero exit status. Otherwise it exits with a non-zero exit
status. If the file system is clean, it will exit with a non-
zero exit status so that the clean status of the file system can
be verified and reported during the foreground checks.
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Matthew Seaman wrote:
> pf will perform very well. I don't know if anyone has benchmarked it
> against ipfw, but I suspect that any difference in performance is pretty
> minimal. If you're just doing packet filtering and using a fairly run of
> the mill modern machine, you should be able to keep up with Gb wire speed
> without problems.
Actually, I tracked down the guy who had originally given a poor review
of pf performance, and it turns out that the missing part of his review
was related to use of dummynet for bandwidth management. Since I'm not
planning to use dummynet for bandwidth management, that's not really a
factor we need to consider. It looks like, at this point, pf is a good
choice.
>=20
> If performance is a limiting factor, then review your rule sets
> carefully:
> arranging things so that the most popular traffic types are handled as=20
> early as possible, knowing when to use tables vs. use address-list macros=
=20
> and judicious use of quick rules can make quite a difference.
>=20
> Also, /stateful/ rules are generally faster than stateless once you've
> got
> beyond the initial packet that establishes the state. Looking stuff up
> in the state table is quicker and takes place earlier in the processing=
=20
> sequence than traversing the rulesets.
>=20
> High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns.
> I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in
> situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume
> network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall=20
> machine is dedicated to running pf and it has hundreds of MB if not GB
> of=20
> RAM, then upping the size of some of those parameters by an order of=20
> magnitude is feasible, and works well.
Thanks for the further elaboration. I'll keep all this in mind as I
investigate the suitability of pf for this project.
>=20
> On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more
> manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock
> yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset.
Just one more reason pf is my favorite firewall.
Thanks for the informative reply.
By the way, apologies if this doesn't thread properly. I never got any
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:15:51PM -0400, Martin Cracauer wrote:
> I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
> which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single
> filesystem install checks it in foreground.
Pretty much anything but / (rot).
////jerry
>
> If I have a separate /boot, would / be background fscked?
>
> Or is the root filesystem always foreground checked?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
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>> 2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache)
>> 'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied
>
> Post:
>
> # ifconfig -a
> # netstat -na | grep 53
>
> Looks like named may be listening publicly on IPv6, but then refusing the
> requests.
>
yes it does. but allows requests only for limited set of addresses.
> Is dns.tensor.gdynia.pl the same box as wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl? Did you make
no it is NOT. that's why i'm asking!
[wojtek@wojtek ~]$ host dns.tensor.gdynia.pl
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl has address 213.192.74.1
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl has IPv6 address 2001:4070:101::1
[wojtek@wojtek ~]$ host dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl has address 83.12.228.78
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl has IPv6 address 2001:4070:101:1::2
[wojtek@wojtek ~]$ host wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl has IPv6 address 2001:4070:101:2::1
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl mail is handled by 20 tensor.gdynia.pl.
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl mail is handled by 0 wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl.
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>> why they are asking?
>
> Because your computer is reachable on either
>
> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
>
> or
>
> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2
no it is not! that's why i'm asking.
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>>> Because the ZFS checksumming makes the FS selfhealing. Chance for
>>
>> selfhealing WHAT?!
>>
>> could you please instead of repeating sun marketing text like all
>> others tell something clearer?
>
> Do your own homework, please.
>
i actually did. instead of repeating marketing blah blah.
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
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>>> why they are asking?
>>
>> Because your computer is reachable on either
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>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2
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> no it is not! that's why i'm asking.
Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth.
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> You do not normally have that much bandwidth even in a modern machine.
> Typical bandwidth for the northbridge/southbridge connection is 1-2 GB/s
> for most machines sold today. (For example just about all machines with
> a recent Intel desktop chipset. The connection between north- and south-bridge
> on those is equivalent to a PCI-E x4 connection (which provides 1GB/s in each
> direction.))
as long as it's not saturated it's not a problem.
>>> with several other devices (which is not uncommon) then the reduced
>>> bandwidth usage can be very useful.
>>
>> true. but not if it's builtin in chipset or on PCI express.
>
> PCI-E controller cards are still fairly uncommon, and many of them
but integrated in chipset - common.
> require a x4 or x8 slot, while most motherboards only have x1 slots
> (apart from the x16 slot intended for a graphics card.)
this slot is usable for anything.
i always take some old PCI card for free for servers. as they don't need
graphics anyway.
on my 8-disk server i could get 95MB/s from EACH of 8 drives in parallel,
still having minimal system load.
it isn't anything expensive, quite cheap gigabyte motherboard with core2
duo and 2GB RAM
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> I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
anything except / can be.
actually - i turn background_fsck off. it's better to check filesystems at
start and be sure system runs clean. unless you have crashes everyday ;(
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> My preferred firewall these days, for general use, is pf. I seem to
> recall someone who has used it in high-load scenarios that it can kinda
> choke at high loads, though I don't recall whether that was due to pf
> itself or the fact he was running it on OpenBSD. Until now, this has not
> been a concern for me.
it would be good to check out ipfw. at least it's IMHO much cleaner and
easier to make rules i need, but it is fast.
but please check, i don't have any side-to-side comparision.
of course it depends how you rules are complicated and how good/bad you
will define them.
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>>>
>>> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
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>>> or
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>>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2
>>
>>
>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking.
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so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write.
my computer isn't 2001:4070:101::1 nor 2001:4070:101:1::2
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> Actually, I tracked down the guy who had originally given a poor review
> of pf performance, and it turns out that the missing part of his review
> was related to use of dummynet for bandwidth management. Since I'm not
> planning to use dummynet for bandwidth management, that's not really a
> factor we need to consider. It looks like, at this point, pf is a good
> choice.
is there a way to check on running system how much CPU time is used to
perform firewalling/traffic manager - be it pf or ipfw?
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>> --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry
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>> > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
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>> >> Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body
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>> >> what's going on.
>> >
>> > Here is a message which has been signed.
>> >
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>> There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere.
>> This line in the headers looks to be the culprit:
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>> That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME.
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> My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however.
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> High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns.
> I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in
> situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume
> network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall machine
is this state-table a hash table or something similar. if so - making it
much bigger than CPU cache may actually slow down things because DRAM
access latency is huge on modern machines.
> On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more
> manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock
> yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset.
i already learned well locking myself after making mistake in ipfw rules
now i run screen and do something like that
cd /etc
cp firewall firewall.old
cp firewall firewall.new
<edit> firewall.new
cp firewall.new firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart;sleep 100;cp firewall.old firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart
then i have 100 seconds to quickly test new rules, at least to make sure
i'm not locked.
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Subject: RE: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var on first
dislk : but umount /var failed
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> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of dhaneshk k
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> Subject: Adding a second disk to increase the space for /var=20
> on first dislk : but umount /var failed
>=20
> I am able to umount /mnt but not /var=20
>=20
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var/
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# umount /mnt/
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var/
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
> /dev/ad7s1a 496M 329M 127M 72% /
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /dev
> /dev/ad7s1e 496M 5.4M 451M 1% /tmp
> /dev/ad7s1f 44G 38G 2.9G 93% /usr
> /dev/ad7s1d 1.4G 221M 1.1G 16% /var
> devfs 1.0K 1.0K 0B 100% /var/named/dev
> [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1
> ad7s1 ad7s1a ad7s1b ad7s1c ad7s1d ad7s1e ad7s1f =20
> [root@storm ~]# umount /dev/ad7s1d=20
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# umouny /var/=20
> bash: umouny: command not found
> [root@storm ~]# umouny /var=20
> bash: umouny: command not found
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]# pwd
> /root
> [root@storm ~]# umount /var
> umount: unmount of /var failed: Device busy
> [root@storm ~]#=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> getting an error Error=20
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy.
>=20
> Details hal-storage-fixed -mount refused uid 0 How=20
> to fix this and umount /var
> =20
>=20
> Any hints most welcome :=20
Did you switch to single user-mode (shutdown now) before trying to
umount /var? If you did, there may be some other process still using
files/dirs in "/var". If you have lsof installed
(/usr/ports/sysutils/lsof), you can identify (as root) which process
still using stuff in /var:
santafe# lsof +D /var/
COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
dhclient 321 _dhcp cwd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty
dhclient 321 _dhcp rtd VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty
dhclient 321 _dhcp jld VDIR 0,100 512 14578696 /var/empty
dhclient 321 _dhcp 6w VREG 0,100 1007 14582324
/var/db/dhclient.leases.msk0
devd 537 root 4u unix 0xc6a78188 0t0
/var/run/devd.pipe
devd 537 root 5w VREG 0,100 3 14580313
/var/run/devd.pid
syslogd 603 root 3w VREG 0,100 3 14580315
/var/run/syslog.pid
syslogd 603 root 4u unix 0xc6a84310 0t0
/var/run/log
syslogd 603 root 5u unix 0xc6a84188 0t0
/var/run/logpriv
...
Stop the processes (dhclient, devd, syslogd, etc.) that still use /var
and then try to umount it again.
Hope this helps - Tobias
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Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>>
>>>> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2
>>>
>>>
>>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking.
>>
>> Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth.
>> Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU
>> ANSWER AGAIN. Jeez.
>>
> so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write.
>
> my computer isn't 2001:4070:101::1 nor 2001:4070:101:1::2
Do a netstat -na | grep 53. This will help. Something is wrong with your
setup if you are seeing undesirable results.
A couple of questions... are you using ONLY /64 prefixes? Whether they
do or not, do:
2001:4070:101:1:: and 2001:4070:101:2::
...share a common physical local link? What flags of Neighbor Discovery
are enabled on the devices on this link, and what on-link prefixes do
you see (ndp -i interface, ndp -p)?
This:
Jun 10 17:13:50 wojtek named[909]: client
2610:130:101:100:214:22ff:fe12:241#60282: query (cache)
'wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl/MX/IN' denied
...is someone within the 'Iowa Communications Network' trying to find an
MX for what appears to be your workstation/mail server, by targeting
your workstation directly for the DNS lookup.
I don't have time to go research it myself right now, but do you use a
registrar that provides IPv6 glue? What does your zone file state for NS
servers? Do you have a rogue NS server on your network that was for
development that got left on, and could be supplying incorrect results?
It is very difficult to identify where this is broken if you don't
respond with suggested output.
Steve
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Jon Radel wrote:
> dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
^^^^^^^^
Sorry Jon, I completely missed that the first time through ;)
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:1::2
>>>
>>>
>>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking.
>>
>> Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth.
>> Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU
>> ANSWER AGAIN. Jeez.
>>
> so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write.
>
> my computer isn't 2001:4070:101::1 nor 2001:4070:101:1::2
Understood; I already answered that question in the negative in my
original e-mail in the part you trimmed out.
Your computer is at 2001:4070:101:2::1, just like I said.
As a bonus I told you which parent to your DNS zone is handing out a
glue record for which nameserver with that address in it.
Get in touch with the people who run that nameserver and ask them,
pretty please, to make the delegation records for your zone look just
like the records at the other parent nameservers.
Really, go read my entire original message. All the way to the end.
Actually look at all the IP addresses. Particularly the one from my log
messages which I remark on with a "Hmmm...different IP address."
Also realize, please, given your track record of telling people that
what they're saying on this list is "nonsense" and "just marketing hype"
and on and on, it really is rather strange for you to expect somebody to
answer your beginner-level questions in nice, easy, beginner-level
steps. Mind, I have no problem with your asking the question. Lord
knows that I come up with some dumb questions of my own sometimes. But
you do set yourself up as the all knowing expert on just about
everything, so don't be surprised if people expect you to have some clue
about what you're doing and capable of figuring out what dig output with
the bad records in it means.
Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is
probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has
looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver
which is handing out that address in a glue record. All you do is get
petulant about how the answer to what turns out to be a rhetorical
question is, "no." D'oh; which I certainly hope translates properly.
--Jon Radel
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 08:08:11AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote:
> On Behalf Of Gary Kline:
> >
> > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear
> > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my
> > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me
> > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some
> > people are taking a break for the summer, &c.
> >
> > I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for
> > different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these
> > ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others.
> >
> > Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to
> > use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned
> > (javascript or other) app?
> >
> > Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on,
> > edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation.
> > [for now, the URL would not be published.]
>
> Have you looked at any wiki software? I have Dokuwiki running on an
> Apache server here at the office as an idea and collaboration incubator.
> There were over 1100 pages created on it the first year. It's all
> written in PHP and was quite simple to set up. You can get it at
> <http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwiki>.
>
> Bob McConnell
thanks for the url, bob. i'll pull it up next time i use a
gui mailer. wiki would let us edit things. IIRC. but it may
be over-kill too.
i checked out what was, i believe, "plone" last week. i don't
remember seeing plone on the opencma list.
(still chewing it over with my fellow writers. unfortunately,
none is a techno-geek.) i believe you that dokuwiki was easy
to set up. how easy is/was it to *use*, tho? ---I'm following
the gimp tutorial, but still cannot get anything to work.
so if there are docs for this wiki software, they've got to be
fairly well tested.
gary
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> no it is not! that's why i'm asking.
>>
>> Oh, for heaven's sake. We all know you like to shoot off your mouth.
>> Now go back to my mail and read it ALL THE WAY THROUGH BEFORE YOU
>> ANSWER AGAIN. Jeez.
>>
> so maybe you should explain clearer because i do read what you write.
In summary, what he means is this:
You have a (perhaps legacy) DNS server running as dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl
(RRs snipped for brevity):
pearl# dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 21682 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
...which appears to be the same IP address as your workstation.
pearl# dig AAAA wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl. 4732 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
...however, any attempt to gather information from dns3. simply fails,
due to your administrative policy (named not allowing outside networks).
I'm willing to bet that you will see attempts from 2607:f118::b6 (or
::b7) in your workstation logs as rejected for AAAA lookups.
I don't see any reference to dns3. in the WHOIS, so perhaps it has been
removed recently.
Any provider who still has this dns3 server listed as a possible
authoritative name server may round-robin to it and produce the logs on
your workstation you are witnessing. It is very possible that this
server is still listed as a NS for the domain and I just didn't look
hard enough for it.
FYI (IMHO), this type of question would be better suited for
freebsd-net@. You would likely have far more eyes on your question over
there by people who focus primarily on this sort of thing.
Steve
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One of my freebsd 6.3 boxes is crashing and when it reboots, it comes
up in single user mode. Unfortunately, it's a remote box and I don't
have access to a history of the console and there's nothing in
/var/log/messages. I think it's a hardware problem, or at least it
seems to be. It's as if it's a bad power supply.
Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at
reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will
argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The
goal is to make it reboot without intervention.
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"Michael Grant" <mg-fbsd3@grant.org> wrote:
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> Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at
> reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will
> argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The
> goal is to make it reboot without intervention.
>
Set fsck_y_enable=yes in rc.conf
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Jerry McAllister <jerrymc@msu.edu> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:15:51PM -0400, Martin Cracauer wrote:
>
> > I'll have to repartition my 6.3 notebook anyway. Can you remind me
> > which filesystems I can have background fsck on? My current single
> > filesystem install checks it in foreground.
>
> Pretty much anything but / (rot).
I think it's just a matter of turning-on soft-updates for the root
partition, which is sensible anyway if it's large.
AFAIK soft-updates are off by default for / because there's no
benefit in the standard install, and because snapshots can cause
problems with installworld on very small partitions.
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Novembre <novembre@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I have installed mplayer-0.99.10_14 and mplayerplug-in-3.45 using packages
> on my 7.0-RELEASE machine which runs Firefox 2.0.0.12. I am not able to
> see *some* online content, though, and I couldn't find any pattern.
> For example, going to http://www.davidgilmour.com/dvd.htm , I can see the
> Windows Media streams (both low and high resolution versions), but QuickTime
> and Real Player streams are not played at all --- a new tab opens in
> Firefox, and I see "Getting playlist..." and "Connecting to server..."
> messages, but then it says "Stopped" and that's it!
> But, if I go to http://www.satriani.com/podcast/Satchafunkilus/ and click
> on any of the podcasts (they are in .m4v which, if I'm not mistaken, is just
> a container for QuickTime .mov videos), mplayerplug-in plays them
> flawlessly. Another example for QuickTime is
> http://www.vai.com/SightsSounds/video_vault/index.html where all the
> videos can be played perfectly.
> As for Real Player, I see watch BBC Persian website's videos in Windows
> Media (e.g. this one about Euro2008 games
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/meta/dps/2008/06/bb/080606_op-euro2008_16x9_bb.asx), but if I choose Real Player as my format, I can only hear the sound and
> no video is played!
>
> I would appreciate any help :)
>
> Thanks a lot
>
>
anybody?
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Hi all,
Two questions:
1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed?
2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date?
Thanks a lot :)
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There are some instructions how you can get the Flashplayer running. Not perfect, but it will do in many cases.
http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl/af/index.html
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> Two questions:
> 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed?
ls -ld /var/db/pkg/<port>, use the mtime of the directory.
> 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date?
Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete.
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Camilo Reyes wrote:
> The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 on your kernel.
> There is a good guide here:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-=
building.html.
>=20
> Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line from your config file. Also=
,
> you could give more information on what application is generating those=
> logs. For example, what services are you running? Is this setup as a
> server? And things of that sort.
Uh, in this case, no it won't. A DNS server can contain and serve
IPv6 RR types even if it has absolutely no IPv6 connectivity itself.
What the log file shows are attempts to look up A and AAAA records.
It happens that the machine being queried and the machine doing the
querying could connect via IPv6, but that wasn't what the OP was
complaining about.
Honestly, this unthinking reflex advice to "turn off IPv6" is getting
really tired, and it is not helpful. IPv6 is a fact of life. IPv4
address space is rapidly running out -- there's about 3 years worth to
go. See this report, for instance:
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/huston-ipv4.pdf
If you aren't IPv6 ready and capable real soon now, then you're going
to find it increasingly hard to cope on the Internet. On the other hand:=
remember the Y2K feeding frenzy at the end of the 90's? There's going
to be a similar scramble to switch to IPv6 and people with the requisite
skills are going to be in demand...
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I have one main server and several slave machines. All machines are running
FreeBSD 7.0. I have done a csup to my server and have done a
'portsupgrade -ap' to build and install my current selection of ports on the
server. This proceedure also creates the packages in /usr/ports/packages/All.
I would now like to sync my other machines using the packages found on this
server. Each slave machine has a skeleton of the ports tree.
Reading the portinstall doco I thought I could do something like:
# setenv PKG_SITES "http://myhost/packages/"
# portupgrade -avPP
---> Session started at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:31 +0000
** None has been installed or upgraded.
---> Session ended at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:41 +0000 (consumed 00:00:10)
I can see that there are packages out of date but I am not sure how to tell
the ports/packages environment what to do. Do I need to do a csup on all
my slave machines. If so they may be out of sync with the master that I
may have processed a week before (for testing).
What is the correct proceedure for keeping packages in sync with a master
repository without the need to rebuild each port on each machine.
Note:
I am able to do a 'portinstall -PPR packagename' on a slave machine to
retrieve a new package so I know that the PKG_SITES is correct and working.
--
Daryl Sayers
To reply please remove the XYZ from the email address.
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In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 219, Issue 7 At Message: 20
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry <andrewberry@sentex.net> wrote:
[..]
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>
> > Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body
> > that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you
> > what's going on.
>
> Here is a message which has been signed.
>
> --Andrew
>
> ------------------------------
Note that I'm replying to a digest message so a) threading is screwed
and b) I don't see full headers of individual messages, but this shows
that your message hit the digest without attachment, and others report
no attachment seen in list mail either, as this reply by Paul shows:
> > Here is a message which has been signed.
> >
>
> There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere.
> This line in the headers looks to be the culprit:
> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5
>
> That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME.
However, what normally happens to attachments to questions@, at least to
digests, is that they get stripped with a note pointing to the original
attachment, as this subsequent message from Chad illustrates:
> Message: 27
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:32:45 -0600
> From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com>
> Subject: Re: Problems opening mail on this list
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
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Note Content-type: possibly modified from original? ..
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:34:59PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry
> > <andrewberry@sentex.net> wrote:
> >
> > >On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > >
> > >>Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body
> > >>that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell you
> > >>what's going on.
> > >
> > >Here is a message which has been signed.
> > >
> >
> > There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere.
> > This line in the headers looks to be the culprit:
> > X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5
> >
> > That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME.
>
> My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however.
>
> --
> Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ]
> Anonymous: "Eat your crow early, while it's young and tender. Don't wait
> until it's old and tough."
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So Andrew, there's something different about your particular S/MIME
attachments I guess. Another illustration from an earlier digest:
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Dunno if that helps, but your Mac gadget seems to work differently ..
cheers, Ian
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Novembre <novembre@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Two questions:
> 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed?
> 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date?
>
> Thanks a lot :)
1. Please don't cross-post.
2. ls -lt /var/db/pkg/*/+DESC piped to whatever language you want to
analyze the dates will provide you the result you want, _unless_
either you modified the file(s)
Cheers,
-Garrett
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CH> Hello,
CH> I have discovered that bsnmp-ucd provides the ability to monitor FreeBSD
CH> by gathering memory, load average, cpu usage and other system
CH> statistics.
CH> I wonder if anyone else have any examples of how they graph those
CH> statistics?
CH> I am currently using cacti and it seems difficult for me to create a
CH> template to gather those gathered data. I am looking for help.
If you have bsnmpd configured to load bsnmp-ucd module, you can use 'ucd/net
SNMP Host' template in cacti to monitor la, memory and cpu statistics. Graph
templates are:
ucd/net - CPU Usage
ucd/net - Load Average
ucd/net - Memory Usage
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Hello,
Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow
me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts
or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to
generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the
keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. :)
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> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel
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> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is
> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has
> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver
> which is handing out that address in a glue record.
A simple problem EASILY solved.
Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver?
Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever
that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you
can find to any DNS query.
After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers
or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache.
Problem solved.
Ted
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On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote:
> > Two questions:
> > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed?
>=20
> ls -ld /var/db/pkg/<port>, use the mtime of the directory.
>=20
> > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain da=
te?
>=20
> Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete.
Not really. This is a bit dangerous.
The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much
better to use the mtime of the +CONTENTS file, since it never changes
*after* the package has been installed.
It is possible, though not certain, that the mtime of the directory may
change if another package is installed later which depends on this one -
pkg_add(1) then updates some files, most notably +REQUIRED_BY, to
reflect the new dependency, so that pkg_delete(1) may warn you later if
you try to delete something that other packages depend on. Of course,
the part with "the mtime of the directory may change" depends a bit on
the filesystem used, but I find it easier to just rely on the +CONTENTS
file that I'm sure should never change - unless I edit it by hand, but
then all bets are off :)
Novembre, you might want to try something like:
# Change the working directory for easier path handling
cd /var/db/pkg
# Create a temporary file with the modification time set to the date
# that you want to examine (in this case, May 15, 2008, 11:00am)
touch -t 200805151100 /tmp/stamp
# Find all +CONTENTS files that have a modification time later than that
# of the "stamp" file
find . -type f -name '+CONTENTS' -mnewer /tmp/stamp
# Extend the previous command - get only the second component of the
# file path, which is the name of the package directory, which coincides
# with the name of the package :)
find . -type f -name '+CONTENTS' -mnewer /tmp/stamp | cut -d/ -f2
That should give you a list; you may redirect it to a file or, if you
are feeling really adventurous, just pipe it to | xargs pkg_delete :)
G'luck,
Peter
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Le 11/06/08 =E0 09:22, Zbigniew Szalbot t=E9l=E9scripta :
> Hello,
Hello,
> Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow =
=20
> me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts =
=20
> or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to =20
> generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the =20
> keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice.=
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> :)
apg[1] could do the trick, it could generate different kind of
passwords, eiher pronounceable or unpronounceable.
% apg -a1 -m64
jVMH8f]~[nZ\Bs2"a-b*,gYPI<YW0P?+I~A'd/,M(8B~w'i`siSn!5_B|NA<1'hx
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R4Qq@Wu0.Pr93Ev"67dgAf;"dq)j,"8[mL/ZjGUR>L=3Du9_&zt~+:OXg$jDE{JnRx
% apg -a0 -m8
DykavWabjo
eyHeefVoc
Agdeikkeo
ivEncig1
ipfevDyod
MywranEn1
Ref:
[1] - http://www.freshports.org/security/apg/
>
> Best regards,
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 10:20:30 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow
> me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts
> or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to
> generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the
> keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice.
> :)
That's a common problem I have, and most of the times I was on relying
on BASH's $RANDOM. Just thought of this:
sed -n 's/[^a-zA-Z0-9~`!@#$%^&*()_+=-|\]//g; /^\(.\{10\}\).*/{ s//\1/p; q; }; b' /dev/urandom
HTH, Nikos
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Hey,
> Set it with
> sysctl inet.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> or
> Alternatively set it by adding this to /etc/sysctl.conf
> net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
I guess "more proper" way of doing this is adding:
gateway_enable="YES"
into /etc/rc.conf? I don't have any sysctl custom configuration in my sysctl.conf
and OpenVPN still works (I have gateway_enable in my rc.conf, of course).
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Woj, another of the few joys of -digests: two birds with one stone:
> is there a way to check on running system how much CPU time is used to
> perform firewalling/traffic manager - be it pf or ipfw?
Sure, compare ping times / traffic throughput with firewall turned off
and on? I recall that a FreeBSD 2.2.6 P166 with about 1000 ipfw rules
added up to ~2ms to ping times through - on a local 10Mbps network :)
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:35:14 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
(quoting Matthew Seaman)
> > High load may or may not be a problem depending on your traffic patterns.
> > I've seen pf firewalls suffer by running out of state-table space in
> > situations where there are a lot of fairly short-lived but low volume
> > network connections. The default is 10,000 states. If your firewall machine
>
> is this state-table a hash table or something similar. if so - making it
> much bigger than CPU cache may actually slow down things because DRAM
> access latency is huge on modern machines.
There was some discussion of the efficiency of ipfw stateful rules in
recent weeks, over on -net IIRC. As someone else mentioned, that's the
place to be if you're interested in net stuff, and are prepared to sit
back and read some real expertise before saying too much for a while :)
ipfw hashes src.ip ^ dst.ip ^ src.port ^ dst.port for connections in a
default of 256 buckets, which is very fast when there are no collisions;
duplicates however are added to a linked list, which gets slow if large,
such as for raw IP or ICMP where 'port' numbers = 0. I'm not sure what
stateful rules really mean in those contexts anyway, but there was talk
of increasing both the (default) no. of buckets and maximum stetes kept,
the memory penalty being pretty insignificant on today's hardware.
I tend to doubt that processor caching is an issue one way or the other.
> > On the whole I'd go with pf every time simply based on how much more
> > manageable it is compared to ipfw -- you have to try, hard, to lock
> > yourself out when reloading a new pf ruleset.
>
> i already learned well locking myself after making mistake in ipfw rules
>
> now i run screen and do something like that
>
> cd /etc
> cp firewall firewall.old
> cp firewall firewall.new
> <edit> firewall.new
> cp firewall.new firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart;sleep 100;cp firewall.old firewall;/etc/rc.d/ipfw restart
>
> then i have 100 seconds to quickly test new rules, at least to make sure
> i'm not locked.
Yeah that'll work, as suggested in the manual's example.
I also wouldn't mind seeing some proper empirical comparisons between
ipfw and pf. Many of the reasons sometimes offered to prefer pf have
been addressed in ipfw more recently (like in-kernel NAT for 7.x) and
development of both is always ongoing, so it's still largely personal
preference. I've been using ipfw for just over 10 years and am fairly
familiar with it, and there are plenty of options I've not yet tried.
Anyone reading the handbook these days would think ipfw was deprecated,
and one day I hope to do a number on the ipfw section there; it contains
out and out factual errors, some misconceptions and poor examples, still
the author does declare his familiarity is otherwise, ipf as I recall.
BTW I'm not dissing pf in any way, I've just never tried it. ipfw plus
dummynet has done everything well that I've needed to do so far, mostly
on networks smaller even than yours :)
cheers, Ian
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>
> pearl# dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl
> dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 21682 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
that's funny because i have in my domain:
dns3 A 213.192.74.1
dns3 AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
not :2::1
tried my secondary dns - the same.
tried dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl from other server in poland - the
same!
any idea where this :2::1 can be kept. nowhere on my machines for sure.
i did grep 2001:4070:101:2::1 /etc/namedb/*/* on both my primary and
secondary dns - found only one position that defines
wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
nothing more.
asked polish telecom DNS to look how it look from outside, got this
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
which is OK.
as you get :2::1 - any idea why?
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> can find to any DNS query.
>
> After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers
> or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache.
>
> Problem solved.
>
> Ted
>
>
when i will be sure it is not my fault i would do this ;) but now i
actually don't know where is a problem
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> > is there a way to check on running system how much CPU time is used to
> > perform firewalling/traffic manager - be it pf or ipfw?
>
> Sure, compare ping times / traffic throughput with firewall turned off
> and on?
this will not measure CPU load but delays. delays are unnoticable and
doesn't look like a problem.
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>> Pretty much anything but / (rot).
>
>
> I think it's just a matter of turning-on soft-updates for the root
> partition, which is sensible anyway if it's large.
root partition is always checked foreground. i would be possible to check
it background after modifying /etc/rc.d/* scripts
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> Do a netstat -na | grep 53. This will help. Something is wrong with your
> setup if you are seeing undesirable results.
all OK, on port 53 my named is listening. it is used as cache-only DNS for
my computer and few others.
yes i can just block out accesses from outside 2001:4070:101:2::/64 but i
would like to know why they are asking at all!
>
> A couple of questions... are you using ONLY /64 prefixes? Whether they do or
yes i do.
2001:4070:101::/64 and 2001:4070:101:2::/64 are different subnets
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fsck_y_enable="YES"
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008, Michael Grant wrote:
> One of my freebsd 6.3 boxes is crashing and when it reboots, it comes
> up in single user mode. Unfortunately, it's a remote box and I don't
> have access to a history of the console and there's nothing in
> /var/log/messages. I think it's a hardware problem, or at least it
> seems to be. It's as if it's a bad power supply.
>
> Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at
> reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will
> argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The
> goal is to make it reboot without intervention.
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Hi,
You must cvsup your ports tree before you execute the portupgrade. This
way you make your system aware of the need of update.
In your case I asume it would be better to make your main server a cvs
replica of the ports tree and use it for internal synchronization.
Regards,
Ivailo Tanusheff
Daryl Sayers <darylXYZ@ci.com.au>
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Synchronizing packages on several machines from a repository
I have one main server and several slave machines. All machines are
running
FreeBSD 7.0. I have done a csup to my server and have done a
'portsupgrade -ap' to build and install my current selection of ports on
the
server. This proceedure also creates the packages in
/usr/ports/packages/All.
I would now like to sync my other machines using the packages found on
this
server. Each slave machine has a skeleton of the ports tree.
Reading the portinstall doco I thought I could do something like:
# setenv PKG_SITES "http://myhost/packages/"
# portupgrade -avPP
---> Session started at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:31 +0000
** None has been installed or upgraded.
---> Session ended at: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:35:41 +0000 (consumed
00:00:10)
I can see that there are packages out of date but I am not sure how to
tell
the ports/packages environment what to do. Do I need to do a csup on all
my slave machines. If so they may be out of sync with the master that I
may have processed a week before (for testing).
What is the correct proceedure for keeping packages in sync with a master
repository without the need to rebuild each port on each machine.
Note:
I am able to do a 'portinstall -PPR packagename' on a slave machine to
retrieve a new package so I know that the PKG_SITES is correct and
working.
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Hi,
You may put fsck_y_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf file.
The other option is to modify /etc/rc.d/fsck which is not so good
approach.
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Ivailo Tanusheff
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system needing fsck at reboot, manual intervention necessary
One of my freebsd 6.3 boxes is crashing and when it reboots, it comes
up in single user mode. Unfortunately, it's a remote box and I don't
have access to a history of the console and there's nothing in
/var/log/messages. I think it's a hardware problem, or at least it
seems to be. It's as if it's a bad power supply.
Anyway, what I'd like to know, where is the fsck that is done at
reboot such that I can modify it to do an fsck -y? Some people will
argue this is dangerous, but I'm not sure what else one would do. The
goal is to make it reboot without intervention.
Michael Grant
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Hi all.
I'm trying to setup a hesiod/kerberos based domain. Kerberos works just
fine but as for hesiod I can't understand what I need to do to make it work.
Originally I have created a sample zone 'ns.local':
$TTL 86400 ; 1 day
@ IN SOA server.local. hostmaster.server.local. (
2008061101 3600 900 2419200 3600 )
; Serial Refresh Retry Expire Minimum
IN NS server.local.
IN MX 0 server.local.
test.passwd TXT "test:*:2001:2001::0:0:Test user:/home/test:/bin/tcsh"
2001.uid CNAME test.passwd
test.group TXT "test:*:2001:"
2001.gid CNAME test.group
And used this configuration file:
rhs = local
lhs = hs
classes = IN
The hesinfo works with no problems:
# hesinfo test passwd
test:*:2001:2001::0:0:Test user:/home/test:/bin/tcsh
However finger stands that user test is uknown:
I'm using the following nsswitch.conf:
#
# nsswitch.conf(5) - name service switch configuration file
# $FreeBSD: src/etc/nsswitch.conf,v 1.1 2006/05/03 15:14:47 ume Exp $
#
group: compat
group_compat: dns
hosts: files dns
networks: files
passwd: compat
passwd_compat: dns
shells: files
services: compat
services_compat: dns
protocols: files
rpc: files
And I do have the +::::... lines in /etc/passwd and /etc/group.
I've tried to debug the cause of the error and it reveals that hesinfo
and finger makes different lookups:
hesinfo:
client 127.0.0.1#62846: view internal: query:
test.passwd.hs.tandem.local IN TXT +
finger:
client 127.0.0.1#51278: view internal: query:
passwd-0.passwd.hs.tandem.local IN TXT +
I've searched the net for 'passwd-0' cause and tried to make something
for this to work, but all my efforts were futile.
Can anyone help me with hesiod configuration? Just a little sample of
your working zone would be enough.
--
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The update of nvidia-driver-169.12 fails on my system.
( 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD)
----------------------------------------
estanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes
-Wmissin
g-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef
-Wno-pointer-sign -ff
ormat-extensions -c nvidia_subr.c
nvidia_subr.c:654: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_init'
nv-freebsd.h:406: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_init' was here
nvidia_subr.c:739: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_teardown'
nv-freebsd.h:407: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_teardown'
was here
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05/src.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver.
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver.
===>>> make failed for x11/nvidia-driver
===>>> Aborting update
===>>> Update for nvidia-driver-169.12 failed
===>>> Aborting update
-----------------------------------------------
Any ideas?
Thanks
Leslie
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> Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow me to
> generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts or modifying
example:
[wojtek@wojtek ~]$ cat bin/genpwd
#!/bin/sh
dd if=/dev/urandom bs=8 count=1 2>/dev/null |hexdump|cut -b 9-12,14-17,19-22,24-27
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I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain
math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago.
NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.
So, the question:
What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of
installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like)
system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ?
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Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain
> math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago.
> NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.
>
> So, the question:
>
> What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of
> installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like)
> system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ?
>
> Heikki Suonsivu
>
I don't think you will have much luck installing any modern linux distro
on ancient hardware. In your case, I would consider running an older
version of FreeBSD, like e.g. 4.11. This will work without a math
co-processor. You can see the hardware notes here:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/hardware-i386.html
Download from ftp-archive, here:
ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.11
See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for
each FreeBSD version:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html
I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM.
You could also go with a Linux version specifically for old PCs, but
better have a look at distrowatch.com for these.
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> > I think it's just a matter of turning-on soft-updates for the root
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> root partition is always checked foreground. i would be possible to
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:05:47 pm Mike Bird wrote:
> All we need is stable unadulterated versions of most packages,
> a real binary package manager (sorry Gentoo and Slackware), and
> a recent kernel and graphics support. =A0Compared to Ubuntu that
> would be a lot more value for a lot less effort. =A0If anyone
> knows of a distro like this I really want to hear about it.
Mike Bird for President! Yeh!=20
I guess that imaginary distro is exactly what I want.
(thinks .... ) Would v7 of FreeBSD qualify?
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Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm
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2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
> On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>>
>> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
>> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear All,
>> >>
>> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
>> >> the configure in the menu.
>> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
>> >>
>> >> I can see it by fc-list:
>> >>
>> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
>> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
>> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
>> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
>> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
>> >>
>> >> I add entry in .Xresources:
>> >>
>> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
>> >
>> > Use:
>> >
>> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
>> >
>> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
>> >
>>
>> aterm still complain can not find this font.
>>
>> > Then:
>> >
>> > $ xrdb -load
>
> Sorry. should have been:
>
> $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
>
>>
>> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened.
>> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it.
>>
>> >
>> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
>> >
>> > $ xlsfonts | less
>>
>> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono".
>
> Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist?
>
> If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the
> instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X.
>
> If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so:
>
> FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"
>
> under the "Files" section. Restart X.
>
> X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for
> aterm.
>
> xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
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> Frank
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> Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
>
>
Thanks a lot, it works.
There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it comes out.
Another thing is, it did not recognize the "\ " to space, the " " will work.
The font line I am using is:
Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans
mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works.
Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days.
--
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Kemian
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> Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow me to generate random
> passwords without actually creating any accounts or modifying
> existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to generate a
> random string of characters.
One way is to use the rand(1) command which comes with the base system
as a part of OpenSSL:
[riemann:/usr/home/raghu]% openssl rand -base64 6
1olqAkXG
[riemann:/usr/home/raghu]% openssl rand -base64 9
gO/9nTp5/SYa
[riemann:/usr/home/raghu]% openssl rand -base64 6
ib9SrIe2
Base64 encoding transforms every group of 3 octets to 4 encoded
characters, so `openssl rand -base64 3N' produces a string with 4N
encoded characters. In case it is relevant, the generated strings are
made up of the 62 US-ASCII alphanumerical characters, `+', and `/'.
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:31:08 +0300
Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote:
> > > Two questions:
> > > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is
> > > installed?
> >
> > ls -ld /var/db/pkg/<port>, use the mtime of the directory.
> >
> > > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a
> > > certain date?
> >
> > Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete.
>
> Not really. This is a bit dangerous.
>
> The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much
> better to use the mtime of the file, since it never changes
> *after* the package has been installed.
+CONTENTS can change if you use a tool like portmaster or portupgrade
If you have portupgrade installed, pkg_glob can list packages installed
before a specific date, so presumably pkg_deinstall can delete them
directly since it support package globs.
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greetings all,
firstly, i am not subscribed, please cc: responces, appreciated.
i have been using freebsd v2.2.5-release (as my domains mx host
on a 486dx33 .. that was upgraded after 20 years running with 6
years on v2.2.5 to a p5-133 mhz into which i moved teh whole scsi
harddisk ssubsystem (card and drives) ther it ran v 2.2.5-r
faultlessly untill last january when i cleaned of teh hard
drives reformated averything and installed freebsd v6.2-release
!!
than after a few weeks of settling down and setting up every
thing worked well, as expected, then the sendmail nightmares
started ... basically the system could not send mail anywhere
!!!
cutting long story short, it was basically my having to relearn
teh whole universe .. there were more differences than i had
planned for and it was an uphill battle relearning essentially
everything i had learned about freebsd over th previous ten
years.
about 3 weeks ago things started to make sence, herebouts,
slowly it is clearing up, as i started to understand sendmail
and getting teh configurations right .. most of teh poorly
configured hosts i've now cleaned up and are working properly,
but, one ...
i have now got one left and like teh linux chappie who i found
on google who had a similar "out of teh blue experience" like
mine, (about 2003) one day sendmail worked then teh veyr next it was
defereing everytingh .. just like here. this chappie had
replaced his nic, i've not done angthiny like that hppen here,
the machine is the machine and no hardware has been changed ??
i donot understand what is going on here .. i've included all
teh differnt bits in teh maillog file
here is teh /var/log/maillog exerpt
Jun 9 00:00:00 reality newsyslog[15991]: logfile turned over
Jun 9 03:01:05 reality sendmail[16485]: grew WorkList for /var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
Jun 9 03:06:36 reality sendmail[17417]: m58H6aGk017417: from=root, size=12938, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200806081706.m58H6aGk017417@reality.caamora.com.au>, relay=root@localhost
Jun 9 03:06:36 reality sendmail[17417]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=42938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:40 reality sendmail[17475]: m58H6dJG017475: from=root, size=137243, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200806081706.m58H6dJG017475@reality.caamora.com.au>, relay=root@localhost
Jun 9 03:06:40 reality sendmail[17475]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=167243, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: grew WorkList for /var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=132938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=257243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root, delay=19:56:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3644350, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root, delay=19:56:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3768123, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:59:57, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4542984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:59:53, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4666757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root, delay=1+18:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=7861512, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root, delay=1+19:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8054226, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root, delay=1+19:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8177393, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+22:45:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8670146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+00:00:08, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8952860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+00:00:04, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9076027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm, delay=2+12:14:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11111854, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m560pgSA005674: to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+16:15:07, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11920494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55LAINO005198: to=root, delay=2+19:56:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12571102, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55LAINP005198: to=root, delay=2+19:56:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12676645, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13469736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+23:59:56, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13575279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+16:48:27, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16413061, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5tA000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+16:48:34, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414081, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5Bx000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+16:47:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414249, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I54R000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+16:48:08, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414653, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5uH000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+16:48:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414849, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I52r000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+16:48:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16416465, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
lots trimmmmmmed
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: grew WorkList for /var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=03:04:07, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=762938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=03:04:04, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=887243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root, delay=23:00:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4274350, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root, delay=23:00:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4398123, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+03:03:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=5172984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+03:03:47, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=5296757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root, delay=1+21:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8491512, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root, delay=1+22:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8684226, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root, delay=1+22:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8807393, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+01:49:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9300146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+03:04:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9582860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+03:03:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9706027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm, delay=2+15:18:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11741854, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m560pgSA005674: to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+19:19:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12550494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55LAINO005198: to=root, delay=2+23:00:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13201102, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55LAINP005198: to=root, delay=2+23:00:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13306645, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+03:03:55, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14099736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+03:03:50, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14205279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+19:52:21, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17043061, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
some 5 mb repetative log entries removed ..
Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I50f000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+23:24:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17806561, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I5vJ000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+23:24:14, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17807047, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I5tL000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+23:24:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17807590, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: grew WorkList for /var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58LAi8l017980: to=root, delay=03:01:40, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=584304, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
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Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=07:05:45, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=1607243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root, delay=1+03:01:59, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4994350, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
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Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+05:51:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=10020146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
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Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+07:05:39, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=10426027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm, delay=2+19:20:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12461854, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m560pgSA005674: to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+23:20:42, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13270494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55LAINO005198: to=root, delay=3+03:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13921102, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55LAINP005198: to=root, delay=3+03:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14026645, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+07:05:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14819736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root, ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+07:05:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14925279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+23:54:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17763061, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5tA000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+23:54:09, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17764081, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5Bx000621: to=postmaster, delay=3+23:53:26, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17764249, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I53u000621: to=postmaster, delay=4+01:52:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346025, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5tK000621: to=postmaster, delay=4+01:52:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346379, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I50f000621: to=postmaster, delay=4+01:52:22, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346561, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5vJ000621: to=postmaster, delay=4+01:52:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18347047, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5tL000621: to=postmaster, delay=4+01:52:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18347590, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
Jun 9 12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280: from=jlm, size=483, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<20080609021707.GA1262@caamora.com.au>, relay=jlm@localhost
Jun 9 12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280: to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30483, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
this last entry was the resutl of teh post test after adding
'SMART_HOST' 'mail.caamora.com.au'
in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all
bases.
i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr
and then an entry into the mailertable
. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post,
again this defered post business .. can't asign ..
there is something going on here that i donot understand ..
some enlightenment would be appreciated, please.
the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me
access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message
and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i
have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for
smart_host mail_hub macros.
is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to
postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet
(me and hardware issues)
it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough
about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this
one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was
doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of
sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except
teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh
maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron
events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder
it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come
to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back
to freebsd v2.2.5 ..
regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess
jonathan
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> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in
> hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the
> same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.>
> So, the question:
>
> What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of installation
> and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) system, and quick and
> easy install like FreeBSD ?
run FreeBSD 4.*
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> See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for each
> FreeBSD version:
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html
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> I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM.
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NetBSD 1.5 runs for sure and runs fast on 486SX and 8MB RAM
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Paul,
The message you sent right after this one produced the same error in
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--On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 15:32:45 -0600 Chad Perrin
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> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:34:59PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
>> --On Tuesday, June 10, 2008 16:23:32 -0400 Andrew Berry
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>> > On 10-Jun-08, at 1:07 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
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>> >> Andrew, maybe you could send a signed message, state in the body
>> >> that it was signed, and then I can look at the headers and tell
you
>> >> what's going on.
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>> > Here is a message which has been signed.
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>>
>> There's no sig attached, so it's getting stripped off somewhere.
>> This line in the headers looks to be the culprit:
>> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5
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>> That will strip all attachments, including S/MIME.
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> My PGP signatures seem to come through just fine, however.
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>> check it background after modifying /etc/rc.d/* scripts
>>
>
> There is no explicit fsck for the root partition. If you have
> background-checking enabled there is a single call to "fsck -p -F" that
> does foreground checking on filesystems in fstab that aren't eligible
> for background-checking. AFAIK the sole reason that root is foreground
> checked is that sysinstall doesn't set soft-updates on it.
you are right. sorry but i was sure my / partition on my laptop have soft
updates set, while it doesn't. and this is the only place i have
background_fsck set to yes
sorry for messing up
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Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39:21PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>
> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
> >>
> >> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
> >> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >>
> >> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
> >> >> the configure in the menu.
> >> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
> >> >>
> >> >> I can see it by fc-list:
> >> >>
> >> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
> >> >>
> >> >> I add entry in .Xresources:
> >> >>
> >> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
> >> >
> >> > Use:
> >> >
> >> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
> >> >
> >> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
> >> >
> >>
> >> aterm still complain can not find this font.
> >>
> >> > Then:
> >> >
> >> > $ xrdb -load
> >
> > Sorry. should have been:
> >
> > $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
> >
> >>
> >> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened.
> >> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
> >> >
> >> > $ xlsfonts | less
> >>
> >> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono".
> >
> > Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist?
> >
> > If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the
> > instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X.
> >
> > If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so:
> >
> > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"
> >
> > under the "Files" section. Restart X.
> >
> > X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for
> > aterm.
> >
> > xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts.
> >
> > Regards,
>
> Thanks a lot, it works.
> There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it comes out.
> Another thing is, it did not recognize the "\ " to space, the " " will work.
> The font line I am using is:
> Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans
> mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
>
> Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works.
Hi Kemian,
I'm glad you got it working.
To change the size of the font, you want to change the the first 0 in
the line to the font size you require in pixels. E.g: I use:
-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
for a 16px font. I like it big!
You can test it beforehand by using xfd (in ports if not already
installed) i.e:
$ xfd -fn "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono\
-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15"
Use iso8859-15 if you want € (the euro) in your character set.
>
> Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days.
>
No worries. I assumed you'd got it to work.
> --
> Best wishes,
> Kemian
Regards,
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Frank
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed mplayer-0.99.10_14 and mplayerplug-in-3.45 using
> > packages on my 7.0-RELEASE machine which runs Firefox 2.0.0.12. I
> > am not able to see *some* online content, though, and I couldn't
> > find any pattern. For example, going to
I find the mplayer plugin to be pretty unreliable - it sounds like it's
improved at lot by your description.
I've had a lot more success with konquerer and kmplayer with the xine
backend. There's also a firefox plugin provided by gxine which may be
worth a try, although it's never been as good as kmplayer in my
experience.
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> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote:
>> > Two questions:
>> > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed?
>>
>> ls -ld /var/db/pkg/<port>, use the mtime of the directory.
>>
>> > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain date?
>>
>> Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete.
>
> Not really. This is a bit dangerous.
>
> The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much
> better to use the mtime of the +CONTENTS file, since it never changes
> *after* the package has been installed.
It actually does if you're using portupgrade (and probably
portmaster), see the @pkgdep entries.
Use +DESC, +COMMENT or +MTREE_DIRS instead.
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Anybody on this, please?
--
Robi
Roberto Nunnari wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm running FreeBSD 6.1 on an old compac server.
>
> The server has a RAID SCSI controller (if I'm not wrong is
> the Compaq SMART 3200 Controller) that at times I'd like
> to check if the status is still ok or somehow degraded.
>
> The OS is accessing it using the ida driver.
>
> Do anybody know how to achive it?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM
>> To: Wojciech Puchar
>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
>>
>
>> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is
>> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has
>> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver
>> which is handing out that address in a glue record.
>
> A simple problem EASILY solved.
>
> Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver?
>
> Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever
> that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you
> can find to any DNS query.
>
> After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers
> or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache.
>
> Problem solved.
>
> Ted
Silly me, I've always believed that people setup nameservers because
they want their resources to be found. Having one the parents of your
zone point to a random machine of yours, which you then use to serve
crap records, strikes me as somewhat counterproductive. And I really
fail to see why whomever runs the parent zone would even notice. So I
rather suspect that the log messages which so traumatize Wojciech would
continue.
Problem not solved.
--Jon Radel
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Subject: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
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Hi all,
I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA
Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem,
1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion,
My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm from a
linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and
comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am tired
of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another linux
distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
My questions are:
1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary
Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
compatibility stable enough for work ?
Thanks a lot.
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Subject: Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?
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> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html
now i made my tests with FreeBSD 7. no installer, my semi-custom kernel i
use everywhere on x86 (everything moduled, all needed things in
loader.conf).
i used qemu
results:
16MB RAM - boots without problems, no swapping at all
12MB - boots without problems, little bit swapping
10MB - boots without problems, more swapping, hanged after booting
multiuser, before displaying login. probably out of kernel memory for
consoles
10MB again - after turning of all consoles but the first, boots fine,
somehow usable, but for routers should be OK.
then i made REALLY custom kernel. minimal but enough for a router.
was able to get down to 9MB.
so - on 12MB 486DX, FreeBSD 7 is useful system for routing, firewalling,
small nameserver, general control etc.
with 16MB - swap is barely touched.
486DX machines with 8-16MB RAM and small (like 100-500MB) disks are for
free here, ISA network cards too.
good to know they can run newest FreeBSD release!
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>Im trying to upgrade some ports, and have a problem with libcdio.
At
least i
>think i do.
>
>When i try to upgrade, say, Nautilus (or a buncha other things), it
dies in
>the
>end with a "libcdio-0.78.2_2 is already installed. You may wish to
make
>deinstall"
>etc. message.
>
>But i did go to /usr/ports/sysytils/libcdio and make deinstall and
make
>reinstall,
>and this was successful. I sync'd the ports collection again, but
no
luck.
>Nothing
>in UPDATING about this.
>
>Thanks!
I've run into similar experiences with other ports, and what I have
done
to get it to work is to deinstall the complaining port (in this
instance
libcdio), and let the original port install it as a dependency instead
of doing a "make reinstall".
--------------
Im afraid this didnt work either--whether libcdio is installed or not
(and installing it seems to work fine), any other port that
requires it tells me that it is installed and need to be
make deinstalled and make reinstalled. Yet this doesnt work.
Is there any other brute-force way to get around this? This
is getting difficult.
Thanks again, everyone.
Jen
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html
>
> now i made my tests with FreeBSD 7. no installer, my semi-custom
> kernel i use everywhere on x86 (everything moduled, all needed things
> in loader.conf).
>
> i used qemu
>
> results:
>
> 16MB RAM - boots without problems, no swapping at all
> 12MB - boots without problems, little bit swapping
> 10MB - boots without problems, more swapping, hanged after booting
> multiuser, before displaying login. probably out of kernel memory for
> consoles
> 10MB again - after turning of all consoles but the first, boots fine,
> somehow usable, but for routers should be OK.
>
>
> then i made REALLY custom kernel. minimal but enough for a router.
>
> was able to get down to 9MB.
>
>
> so - on 12MB 486DX, FreeBSD 7 is useful system for routing,
> firewalling, small nameserver, general control etc.
>
> with 16MB - swap is barely touched.
>
> 486DX machines with 8-16MB RAM and small (like 100-500MB) disks are
> for free here, ISA network cards too.
>
> good to know they can run newest FreeBSD release!
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To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw,
consider the effort of maintaining the system.
Brian
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>
>>
>> pearl# dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl
>> dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 21682 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
>
> that's funny because i have in my domain:
>
> dns3 A 213.192.74.1
> dns3 AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
>
> not :2::1
>
>
> tried my secondary dns - the same.
>
>
> tried dig aaaa dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl from other server in poland - the
> same!
>
> any idea where this :2::1 can be kept. nowhere on my machines for sure.
>
> i did grep 2001:4070:101:2::1 /etc/namedb/*/* on both my primary and
> secondary dns - found only one position that defines
> wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl
>
> nothing more.
>
>
> asked polish telecom DNS to look how it look from outside, got this
> dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 10800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
>
> which is OK.
>
>
> as you get :2::1 - any idea why?
Sure thing. I know exactly why. I keep telling you why. You keep
ignoring me.
Frankly, I'm beginning to suspect that you're only pretending that you
know how DNS works. You might want to research it a bit.
Run this:
$ dig @bilbo.nask.org.pl tensor.gdynia.pl ns
; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @bilbo.nask.org.pl tensor.gdynia.pl ns
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45423
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 6
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tensor.gdynia.pl. IN NS
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl.
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns.tensor.gdynia.pl.
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 213.192.74.1
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.18.148.142
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.12.228.78
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
;; Query time: 233 msec
;; SERVER: 195.187.245.51#53(195.187.245.51)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 11 13:21:48 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 222
over and over until you catch on to what it means. Once you understand
that, then run this:
$ dig @f-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns
; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @f-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns
; (2 servers found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 13848
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tensor.gdynia.pl. IN NS
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS dns2.task.gda.pl.
gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS bilbo.nask.org.pl.
gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS ns-pl.tpnet.pl.
gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS kirdan.warman.nask.pl.
gdynia.pl. 86400 IN NS dns.task.gda.pl.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.task.gda.pl. 86400 IN A 153.19.250.100
dns2.task.gda.pl. 86400 IN A 212.77.97.222
;; Query time: 131 msec
;; SERVER: 2001:1a68:0:10::189#53(2001:1a68:0:10::189)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 11 13:30:16 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 200
over and over until you realize why this means that the results of the
first command actually matter.
Or you could skip a step and run:
$ dig @b-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns
; <<>> DiG 9.4.2 <<>> @b-dns.pl. tensor.gdynia.pl ns
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 10267
;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 6
;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;tensor.gdynia.pl. IN NS
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl.
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl.
tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN NS dns.tensor.gdynia.pl.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 213.192.74.1
dns.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.18.148.142
dns2.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101::1
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN A 83.12.228.78
dns3.tensor.gdynia.pl. 28800 IN AAAA 2001:4070:101:2::1
;; Query time: 138 msec
;; SERVER: 80.50.50.10#53(80.50.50.10)
;; WHEN: Wed Jun 11 13:32:09 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 222
Basically, according to the root servers, pl has 8 nameservers, a-dns.pl
through h-dns.pl. They give different answers when asked about
gdynia.pl and tensor.gdynia.pl
a: returns set of 5, including bilbo.nask.org.pl, which then returns
the dreaded address
b: returns set of 5 for gdynia.pl, BUT WHEN ASKED ABOUT
TENSOR.GDYNIA.PL returns your 3 nameservers, with the dreaded address in
glue (unlike all the other pl TLD servers)
c: like a
d: like a
e: like a
f: like a
g: like a
h: like a but less additional information
So, obviously, not all paths lead to the bad address, but there are
plenty that do. Is this your fault? I haven't the foggiest. I would
suggest you go and talk to your parents about why they're making you so
unhappy. :-)
--Jon Radel
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Also Slackware has a rather Unix-like concept. The versions until 11 (if
I remember right) still run on the 2.4 kernel and have an option to
install without X11 and KDE and such. I still use it on a slow server,
it is easy to understand when you come from BSD-land.
Cheers
herbs
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:54:07PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain
> math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago.
> NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.
>
> So, the question:
>
> What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of
> installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like)
> system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ?
>
> Heikki Suonsivu
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Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough:
FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go:
The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but
it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See
www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about
3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound,
etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD
displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and
uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us.
We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works,
has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add
support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround).
The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did
not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really
what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be
internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest
chipsets on 802.11 cards etc.
There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do
not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without
math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers.
Heikki
Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
>> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain
>> math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago.
>> NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.
>>
>> So, the question:
>>
>> What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of
>> installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like)
>> system, and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ?
>>
>> Heikki Suonsivu
>>
>
> I don't think you will have much luck installing any modern linux distro
> on ancient hardware. In your case, I would consider running an older
> version of FreeBSD, like e.g. 4.11. This will work without a math
> co-processor. You can see the hardware notes here:
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/hardware-i386.html
>
> Download from ftp-archive, here:
>
> ftp://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/4.11
>
>
> See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for
> each FreeBSD version:
>
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html
>
> I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM.
>
> You could also go with a Linux version specifically for old PCs, but
> better have a look at distrowatch.com for these.
>
>
>
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On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:36 +1000 (EST), Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au> wrote:
> >On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:07:12 -0700 Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com> wrote:
> >>On Mon, Jun 09, 2008, Raphael Becker wrote:
> >>>On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:15:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>>> find . -type f -print0|xargs -0 grep <grepoptions> <text to search>
> >>>
> >>> There's no more need for find | xargs
> >>>
> >>> Try:
> >>>
> >>> find . -type -f -exec grep <grepoptions> <text to search> {} \+
> >>>
> >>> -exec foo {} \+ behaves like xargs foo
> >>> -exec foo {} \; exec foo for every file
> >
> > Thanks for this kick; I'd missed or misunderstood using {} \+
> >
> >> The issue here is that grep execs grep for each file found while
> >> xargs batches the files.
> >
> > If find(1) is to be believed, so does -exec utility [argument ...] {} +
>
> Yes, sure. I think Bill was just being extra-conservative[1] and he
> explicitly chose to quote `+' with a backslash to avoid spurious
> interpreration by the shell. I also type `\+' out of habbit most
> of the time.
It doesn't hurt. My tests used \+ too, though after seeing yours I
tried with just '+' which works in tcsh anyway, unlike unescaped ';'
(It was Raphael actually, though I was replying to Bill's)
> [1] BSD users tend to be this way, but that's a good thing, right? :)
Right! Of course for balance we have a 'left!' of out-there developers,
forever pushing envelopes, generating need for updates .. but we'd best
leave the stability vs progress politics to its playground on stable@ :)
cheers, Ian
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Camilo Reyes wrote:
> The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6 on your kernel.
> There is a good guide here:
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html.
>
> Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line from your config file. Also,
> you could give more information on what application is generating those
> logs. For example, what services are you running? Is this setup as a
> server? And things of that sort.
Disabling things so the log messages stop and you can pretend all the
brokenness has magically gone away is indeed the easiest solution
sometimes. It's rarely a good one, particularly for the long term.
Anyway, the OP actually uses IPv6 on his network, so this is pretty much
akin to suggesting that he turn off his computer to keep people from
bothering it.
The log messages are from his DNS server; he uses it for resolving and
some local stuff; the log entries are the result of queries from random
machines being rejected; random machines are doing that since at least
one of his parent nameservers is handing out the IPv6 address of his
server against his wishes; eventually he'll realize this is actually the
case; and maybe he'll be able to convince whomever runs the parent
nameserver(s) to update the records for his zone. (Just to cover the
rest of your questions. :-)
--Jon Radel
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From: Gary Kline
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 08:08:11AM -0400, Bob McConnell wrote:
> > On Behalf Of Gary Kline:
> > >=20
> > > This is a bit hard to figure out how to phrase, so please bear
> > > with me. I want to put-back a BBS/forum type app somewhere on my
> > > site so that members of my writing group can continue to help me
> > > with their suggestions and edits of my Jottings project. Some=20
> > > people are taking a break for the summer, &c.
> > >=20
> > > I've had PHPBB up a few times, and lost it as many times for
> > > different reasons. It takes about an hour to set up one of these
> > > ``forum'' applications; I don't know about the others. =20
> > >=20
> > > Does anyone have a best-win/solution as to which port/package to
> > > use? Or would it be just as good to go with a canned
> > > (javascript or other) app?
> > >=20
> > > Again: the nutshell is to allow my fellow writers to comment-on,
> > > edit, suggest, critique, flame, whatever, my jotting meditation.
> > > [for now, the URL would not be published.]
> >=20
> > Have you looked at any wiki software? I have Dokuwiki running on an
> > Apache server here at the office as an idea and collaboration
incubator.
> > There were over 1100 pages created on it the first year. It's all
> > written in PHP and was quite simple to set up. You can get it at
> > <http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwiki>.
> >=20
> > Bob McConnell
>=20
> thanks for the url, bob. i'll pull it up next time i use a=20
> gui mailer. wiki would let us edit things. IIRC. but it may
> be over-kill too.
>=20
> i checked out what was, i believe, "plone" last week. i don't
> remember seeing plone on the opencma list. =20
>=20
> (still chewing it over with my fellow writers. unfortunately,
> none is a techno-geek.) i believe you that dokuwiki was easy
> to set up. how easy is/was it to *use*, tho? ---I'm following
> the gimp tutorial, but still cannot get anything to work. =20
> so if there are docs for this wiki software, they've got to be=20
> fairly well tested.
There is an active group of folks using and maintaining Dokuwiki. That
link goes to their wiki where they are using it for documentation.
Access control is flexible, but optional. There was a new release in the
past month or so which included support for a WYSIWYG editor plug-in.
Without that, you do need to learn a few specific markup conventions,
but they were never very difficult. You can edit everything from your
browser. Footnotes, line-through deletion and other editing conventions
are supported. But the best part is the change tracking that is built
in. You can trace each and every change if you need to.
Good luck,
Bob McConnell
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
>
> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA
> Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem,
> 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion,
>
> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm
> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling
> and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I
> am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
>
> My questions are:
> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
>
> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary
> Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
> compatibility stable enough for work ?
>
> Thanks a lot.
If FreeBSD runs on your new T61, you can install the Maxima port as a free
alternative to MATLAB and Mathematica. Maxima does symbolic math
and handles tensors. You can run Maxima code that proves that Einstein's
theory of relativity has a far-reaching logical inconsistancy in it
because the theory assumes torsion = 0 and curvature is nonzero.
Non-zero curvature implies torsion also is non-zero.
See the code in paper 93 at
http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=Unified_Field_Theory_papers
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> $ dig @bilbo.nask.org.pl tensor.gdynia.pl ns
so something is broken with my registrar. as other dns'es reports only 2
nameservers.
host -t ns tensor.gdynia.pl dns.task.gda.pl
reports 2 of them, and dns.task.gda.pl is main dns for gdynia.pl
thank you for finally explaining things
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> To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw, consider
> the effort of maintaining the system.
maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any
maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so
logs won't fill the disk.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:42:27PM +0930, Brian Astill wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:05:47 pm Mike Bird wrote:
> >
> > All we need is stable unadulterated versions of most packages,
> > a real binary package manager (sorry Gentoo and Slackware), and
> > a recent kernel and graphics support. Compared to Ubuntu that
> > would be a lot more value for a lot less effort. If anyone
> > knows of a distro like this I really want to hear about it.
>
> Mike Bird for President! Yeh!
> I guess that imaginary distro is exactly what I want.
> (thinks .... ) Would v7 of FreeBSD qualify?
Well it's got a recent kernel, it's got Xorg 7.3 and it's got binary
package management but it hasn't got Adobe Flash ATM.
An Ubuntu user would be better pointed at PC-BSD or DesktopBSD. They
aim at ease of use:
http://www.pcbsd.org/
http://www.desktopbsd.net/
IIRC they use the 6.3 kernel (which is currently supported & pretty
much as recent as 7.0) and they use KDE rather than Gnome. They also
have support forums aimed at new users, the FreeBSD mailing lists tend
to be more technical.
I can't comment as to how good either is as I've used neither but
they've had positive write-ups.
I use FreeBSD 7.0 on my workstation & 6.3 on my server so I know the
underlying system is sound.
> --
> Regards,
> Brian
HTH.
Regards,
--
Frank
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> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another
> linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
>
> My questions are:
> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's
IBM/Lenovo :)
> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary
> Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
> compatibility stable enough for work ?
works at least for acrobat reader completely.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
>
> Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough:
>
> FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go:
>
> The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but
> it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See
> www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about
> 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound,
> etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD
> displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and
> uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us.
>
> We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works,
> has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add
> support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround).
I don't know if this machine is going to be sited on an insecure
network or not. If it is, then you'll probably be using ssh. Without
a math co-proc to do the crypto, it will be horrendous. I don't even
know if ssh would work with an architecture without a maths unit.
If it can't work with ssh, then you might be restricting your market.
I think you are punishing yourself unneccesarily by going with a
processor without maths. You restrict the software (both OS &
application) you can run.
>
> The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did
> not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really
> what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be
> internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest
> chipsets on 802.11 cards etc.
>
> There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do
> not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without
> math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers.
Can't you find a manufacturer that makes something similar with a DX
instead? Or can you email this company and ask them how much it would
cost to run off X units with a 486DX rather than SX?
>
> Heikki
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> I use ports/lang/gcc42.
> I set WITHOUT_JAVA=yes in the Makefile.
> However, with each tree update this option is
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> What is the best way to preserve my custom setting,
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw,
>> consider the effort of maintaining the system.
>
> maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any
> maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config
> so logs won't fill the disk.
security patches, port updates? Any OS will probably require at least
some of this.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Radel [mailto:jon@radel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:15 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Wojciech Puchar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM
> >> To: Wojciech Puchar
> >> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
> >>
> >
> >> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is
> >> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has
> >> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver
> >> which is handing out that address in a glue record.
> >
> > A simple problem EASILY solved.
> >
> > Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver?
> >
> > Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever
> > that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you
> > can find to any DNS query.
> >
> > After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers
> > or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache.
> >
> > Problem solved.
> >
> > Ted
>
> Silly me, I've always believed that people setup nameservers because
> they want their resources to be found. Having one the parents of your
> zone point to a random machine of yours,
It seemed that the OP's claim was that he had NOT asked the
parents of his domain to point any nameserving to his machine.
It used to be that people would at times use random nameservers
on the Internet that they discovered, rather than using their
own ISP's nameserver. The advent of IP-based filtering for
BIND which allows you to specify only non-recursive queries to
be answered from IP blocks that are not your own, pretty much put
a stop to that. But for whatever reason, sometimes you can't
employ IP-based filtering, and you have to setup a nameserver
to answer recursive queries from anyone, even though you may
still only want the world to be making non-recursive queries
to it.
The suggestion to use wildcards to issue bogus responses is
the general suggestion to "convince" goofballs on the Internet
that happen to come across your recursive-query-responding
nameserver that you do not want them to use to make recursive
queries, to go elsewhere.
Obviously if you intentionally are listing your nameserver in
a parent zone, and you employ this trick, you will need to
setup a new nameserver on a different IP and change the parent
zone.
I figured though, that anyone who knew what they were doing
would have grasped that concept, however.
> which you then use to serve
> crap records, strikes me as somewhat counterproductive. And I really
> fail to see why whomever runs the parent zone would even notice.
The OP claimed that he was getting an excessive number of
DNS requests, implying that his parent was redirecting a lot
of queries to him that he wasn't supposed to get. If his
parent is doing that because they misconfigured their own nameserver,
then anyone depending on their nameserver will get crap records
back, and likely complain.
I think the issue is that you are assuming his parent zone
admins are doing the Correct Thing when they have configured
their own nameservers. The OP was insistent that his parent
zone admins were doing the Wrong Thing when they configured
their own nameservers. Thus, my suggestion is essentially telling
the OP that if he is so insistent that his parents are screwed
up, then he can put his money where his mouth is and wildcard
a porno site.
As we saw by his response to my suggestion, when the OP was
challenged to do this, he rapidly backwatered. Since backwatering
he no longer can claim (at least on this list) that his parent
admins are idiots, and thus I assume is now open to examining
his own config a bit more closely. (which is what you were
telling him to do all along)
Sometimes if you want the horse to drink, you have to let them
run in the opposite direction of the pond.
Ted
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>> maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any
>> maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so
>> logs won't fill the disk.
> security patches, port updates? Any OS will probably require at least some
> of this.
for router - not much :) there are for sure some security flawed programs
on them, but what's a problem. every IP except some listed numbers are
just blocked, dns server is cache-only with queries disabled from outside
(and by netbsd's ipf to make sure), no outside-reachable services are
running.
that's about security :)
about patches - why to patch fully WORKING thing.
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On a server I was running FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE together with =
apache 1.3.41 without any problem.
After upgrading FreeBSD to FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE using a source =
upgrade, compiling, and a full recompile of all the ports =
apache refuses to start, or starts and exits with a .core dump.
In httpd-error.log
[Wed Jun 11 17:01:04 2008] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr =
10.10.10.10
[Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [info] (2)No such file or directory:=
make_sock: for port 80, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER)
[Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [warn] pid file /var/run/httpd.pid =
overwritten -- Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run?
After hashing out
#LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so
#AddModule mod_unique_id.c
Apache starts normally
Can anyone explain this?
Jack
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Nothing impersonal; just trying to help. I'm a big advocate of
getting rid of things you don't need to keep things simple. Sorry
that wasn't the answer you were looking for...
Camilo
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> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:13:47 -0400
> From: Jon Radel <jon@radel.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests Was: Re:
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> Camilo Reyes wrote:
> > The easiest way to deal with this is to disable IPv6
> on your kernel.
> > There is a good guide here:
> >
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html.
> >
> > Simply comment out the 'options INET6' line
> from your config file. Also,
> > you could give more information on what application is
> generating those
> > logs. For example, what services are you running? Is
> this setup as a
> > server? And things of that sort.
>
> Disabling things so the log messages stop and you can
> pretend all the
> brokenness has magically gone away is indeed the easiest
> solution
> sometimes. It's rarely a good one, particularly for
> the long term.
> Anyway, the OP actually uses IPv6 on his network, so this
> is pretty much
> akin to suggesting that he turn off his computer to keep
> people from
> bothering it.
>
> The log messages are from his DNS server; he uses it for
> resolving and
> some local stuff; the log entries are the result of queries
> from random
> machines being rejected; random machines are doing that
> since at least
> one of his parent nameservers is handing out the IPv6
> address of his
> server against his wishes; eventually he'll realize
> this is actually the
> case; and maybe he'll be able to convince whomever runs
> the parent
> nameserver(s) to update the records for his zone. (Just to
> cover the
> rest of your questions. :-)
>
> --Jon Radel
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Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jon Radel [mailto:jon@radel.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 6:15 AM
>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>> Cc: Wojciech Puchar; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
>>
>>
>> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jon Radel
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:02 PM
>>>> To: Wojciech Puchar
>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>> Subject: Re: OT: lots of IPv6 DNS requests
>>>>
>>>> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is
>>>> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has
>>>> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver
>>>> which is handing out that address in a glue record.
>>> A simple problem EASILY solved.
>>>
>>> Why bother the owner of the misconfigured nameserver?
>>>
>>> Instead, simply insert a wildcard record to your namesever
>>> that hands out the IP number of the nastiest porno site you
>>> can find to any DNS query.
>>>
>>> After a few days the owners of the misconfigured nameservers
>>> or clients will go hunting for whatever is poisoning their cache.
>>>
>>> Problem solved.
>>>
>>> Ted
>> Silly me, I've always believed that people setup nameservers because
>> they want their resources to be found. Having one the parents of your
>> zone point to a random machine of yours,
>
> It seemed that the OP's claim was that he had NOT asked the
> parents of his domain to point any nameserving to his machine.
Yes. And I pointed out that he was WRONG, including in the message you
responded to. I went so far as to send dig output showing the glue
record that was causing his grief.
>
> It used to be that people would at times use random nameservers
> on the Internet that they discovered, rather than using their
> own ISP's nameserver. The advent of IP-based filtering for
> BIND which allows you to specify only non-recursive queries to
> be answered from IP blocks that are not your own, pretty much put
> a stop to that. But for whatever reason, sometimes you can't
> employ IP-based filtering, and you have to setup a nameserver
> to answer recursive queries from anyone, even though you may
> still only want the world to be making non-recursive queries
> to it.
True, but quite beside the point. Anyway, those pesky people would
quickly leave a server that denied all their requests alone, and if
you'd actually read what the OP posted, you'd have noticed the "denied"
at the end of every line from his logs that he found so disturbing.
>
> The suggestion to use wildcards to issue bogus responses is
> the general suggestion to "convince" goofballs on the Internet
> that happen to come across your recursive-query-responding
> nameserver that you do not want them to use to make recursive
> queries, to go elsewhere.
>
Understood, true, but quite beside the point.
> Obviously if you intentionally are listing your nameserver in
> a parent zone, and you employ this trick, you will need to
> setup a new nameserver on a different IP and change the parent
> zone.
>
> I figured though, that anyone who knew what they were doing
> would have grasped that concept, however.
>
You'd think, wouldn't you?
>> which you then use to serve
>> crap records, strikes me as somewhat counterproductive. And I really
>> fail to see why whomever runs the parent zone would even notice.
>
> The OP claimed that he was getting an excessive number of
> DNS requests, implying that his parent was redirecting a lot
> of queries to him that he wasn't supposed to get. If his
> parent is doing that because they misconfigured their own nameserver,
> then anyone depending on their nameserver will get crap records
> back, and likely complain.
>
He made no such claim at any time (at least in any e-mail that reached
me privately or via the list). He was confused as to why random
machines where hitting his closed nameserver at all.
Do you honestly think lots of people are going to gang up on whomever
runs his parent zone when they stop getting mail from the OP? Those
that noticed would probably sigh a little sigh of relief that they'd no
longer have to see the OP and me fussing at each other.
> I think the issue is that you are assuming his parent zone
> admins are doing the Correct Thing when they have configured
> their own nameservers. The OP was insistent that his parent
> zone admins were doing the Wrong Thing when they configured
> their own nameservers. Thus, my suggestion is essentially telling
> the OP that if he is so insistent that his parents are screwed
> up, then he can put his money where his mouth is and wildcard
> a porno site.
Wow. You really have problems with reading comprehension, don't you?
You have that more or less backwards.
>
> As we saw by his response to my suggestion, when the OP was
> challenged to do this, he rapidly backwatered. Since backwatering
> he no longer can claim (at least on this list) that his parent
> admins are idiots, and thus I assume is now open to examining
> his own config a bit more closely. (which is what you were
> telling him to do all along)
No, I was pointing him to the parent which was handing out the glue
record with the address he kept claiming couldn't possibly be being made
public by anybody. I have no reason to suspect a problem with his
configs and never said or hinted at such a thing in any way.
>
> Sometimes if you want the horse to drink, you have to let them
> run in the opposite direction of the pond.
Giggle.
OK, folks, I promise, given that this has sunk well into chat territory,
I'm done responding on the list on this topic. I was sucked in
originally by the OP posting my DNS server's IP address in a query, and
it appears that the OP has finally taken the time to grasp the answer I
kept giving him, so I'm going to move on. Feel free to send me love
notes privately.
--Jon Radel
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> me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts=20
> or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to=20
> generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the=20
> keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. :)
Using FreeBSD's random device:
tcsh syntax:
( dd if=3D/dev/random bs=3D6 count=3D1 | openssl base64 > /dev/tty ) > & /d=
ev/null
sh syntax:
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|> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
|> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
|>
|> My questions are:
|> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card,
|> CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most
|> important.
|
| not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's
| IBM/Lenovo :)
nVIDIA drivers should support it:
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|
|> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux
|> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many
|> commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux
|> binary compatibility stable enough for work ?
Linux emulation is stable enough, I would say. I've used it to run
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008, Roland Smith wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:20:30AM +0200, Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow
>> me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts
>> or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to
>> generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the
>> keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your advice. :)
>
>Using FreeBSD's random device:
>tcsh syntax:
>( dd if=/dev/random bs=6 count=1 | openssl base64 > /dev/tty ) > & /dev/null
>
>sh syntax:
>dd if=/dev/random bs=6 count=1 2>/dev/null| openssl base64
I much prefer apg which can generate more-or-less pronounceable
passwords which it is possible to remember (at least after typing
them a few times :-).
One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they
end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the
keyboard.
Bill
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Hello,
I don't know why nobody else has given the correct answer
to this (it's should actually be a FAQ). So I'll try to
give an answer.
The Ghost <the-ghost@inbox.ru> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Maybe I just don't understand something, but anyway, it looks really odd.
>
> I have a machine with 2 Gb RAM with a clean newly-installed
> FREEBSD-7.0-RELEASE. I make two 300-MB mdconfig disks and populate
> them, and when the first one was already full and the second one is
> only half-full, I get a kernel panic "not enough memory".
Use "-t swap" with mdconfig(8), not "-t malloc".
> [...]
> I was very surprised to see that one gigabyte of my
> memory suddenly became used up.
FreeBSD uses all memory for caching, as far as possible.
Free memory is wasted memory.
> A friend of mine told me that such a panic is really a thing to write
> a bugreport on it,
No. It is clearly documented in the mdconfig(8) manpage:
"If the -o reserve option is not set, creating and filling
a large malloc-backed memory disk is a very easy way to
panic a system."
As I said above, you probably don't want a malloc-backed
memory disk (which means it consumes non-pagable kernel
memory), but a swap-backed disk (which is cached in regular
RAM and backed by swap).
If you're absolutely sure you want kernel-malloc for your
memory disk, you need to increase the kmem limit (see
"sysctl vm | grep kmem").
Best regards
Oliver
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Pietro Cerutti wrote:
| Wojciech Puchar wrote:
| |> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
| |> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
| |>
| |> My questions are:
| |> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card,
| |> CDRW/DVDRW, wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most
| |> important.
| |
| | not sure about display card. but everything else should be OK. it's
| | IBM/Lenovo :)
|
| nVIDIA drivers should support it:
|
| http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_100.14.09.html
err, this is the most up to date :)
http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_173.14.05.html
|
| |
| |> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux
| |> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many
| |> commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux
| |> binary compatibility stable enough for work ?
|
| Linux emulation is stable enough, I would say. I've used it to run
| Mathematica 5 in the past (see handbook).
|
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:29:30 +0000 (UTC)
dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > My current working involves scientific calculation and programming.
> > I'm from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some
> > googling and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to
> > try FreeBSD. I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just
> > install FreeBSD or another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my
> > notebook.
> >
>
> If FreeBSD runs on your new T61, you can install the Maxima port as a
> free alternative to MATLAB and Mathematica. Maxima does symbolic math
> and handles tensors. You can run Maxima code that proves that
> Einstein's theory of relativity has a far-reaching logical
> inconsistancy in it because the theory assumes torsion = 0 and
> curvature is nonzero. Non-zero curvature implies torsion also is
> non-zero. See the code in paper 93 at
> http://www.aias.us/index.php?goto=showPageByTitle&pageTitle=Unified_Field_Theory_papers
Maxima is great!
The following may also be quite useful:
http://www.scipy.org/
http://code.google.com/p/sympy/
http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/
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> One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they
> end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the
> keyboard.
there is no cure for that in FreeBSD. you need some non-computer hardware
to stop that behaviour ;)
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Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> "Steve Franks" <stevefranks@ieee.org> writes:
> > I'm really no security expert. I don't leave the system up 24/7, and
> > I'm on a US DSL connection with a bunch of windows boxes.
> >
> > Seems to be a recent phenomena, I've started experiencing disk
> > thrashing I can hear across the room. ps and top report cvslockd has
> > been responsible for the thrashing (which usually occurs at a specific
> > time of day (~1 am MST)), but now, find is doing the thrashing at boot
> > every time (within the last week at least). Needless to say, I
> > haven't changed the system in any way during that week. On windows,
> > I'd just assume this to be normal behavior, but on FreeBSD, it's got
> > me worried...
> >
> > I presume the security section of the manual has a good into to
> > detecting intruders, but first I'm interested if there is a legitimate
> > reason for find to be torturing my disk. I don't run much on my
> > system - apache, cvs, portsnap, ssh, that's about it.
>
> That's not really so little. I would tend to doubt it's a security
> issue, but tracking it down is still a good idea. You should be able
> to see what user is running the find, using ps(1), and that might give
> a clue to what the purpose is (but probably not; it'll probably turn
> out to be root).
This script might be useful for that purpose:
http://www.secnetix.de/olli/scripts/pidtrace
Given the process ID of the "find" process on the command
line, it will print its parent processes all the way up to
init(8). That way you can easily find out if the "find"
was started by a cron job, by an rc.d script, or something
else.
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Oliver
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The linux progs run very well, what I can tell with my modest amount of
programs using this mode. BSD uses a seperate directory what contains all
linux-bins and it integrates well. Also the speed is like a normal Linux
distro. Maybe it is a good idea to get an old 20GB harddisk, change it
and give it a try while leaving your old HD with your current
installation intact?
Cheers
herbs
> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary
> Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
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> Thanks a lot.
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> In httpd-error.log
> [Wed Jun 11 17:01:04 2008] [info] mod_unique_id: using ip addr 10.10.10.10
> [Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [info] (2)No such file or directory: make_sock: for port 80, setsockopt: (SO_ACCEPTFILTER)
> [Wed Jun 11 17:01:05 2008] [warn] pid file /var/run/httpd.pid overwritten -- Unclean shutdown of previous Apache run?
>
> After hashing out
> #LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so
> #AddModule mod_unique_id.c
>
> Apache starts normally
>
> Can anyone explain this?
are you sure you use the same apache version as with 6.*?
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Subject: Re: Effects of CPUTYPE
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Jonathan Chen wrote:
> Mark Ovens wrote:
> > Trying to identify why I should be having all these problems I've been
> > looking for anything that may be specific to my machine. One thing I've
> > come up with is the fact that I have CPUTYPE?=athlon-mp in
> > /etc/make.conf on both 6.3 and 7.0.
>
> In my personal opinion, the small gain you get is more than
> overwhelmed by the big pain you get from setting CPUTYPE.
I'm setting CPUTYPE on all of my machines for many years,
without the slightest problems. No pain at all. They're
all kinds of different processors, c3-2 (VIA), athlon64,
and so on. In some cases the difference is very noticable.
Having said that, it's certainly worth trying whether your
problems are gone when you compile without that setting.
Do you have any other unusual settings, such as non-standard
CFLAGS or anything?
BTW, I once was bitten by a similar problem, when building
software failed in strange ways, it turned out I had a bad
variable in my environment that was picked up by some build
scripts. Maybe it's worth a try to run your ports builds
with a clean environment ("env -"), or try to install
binary packages instead of building ports yourself, in
order to narrow down where the problem is.
Best regards
Oliver
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"Python tricks" is a tough one, cuz the language is so clean. E.g.,
C makes an art of confusing pointers with arrays and strings, which
leads to lotsa neat pointer tricks; APL mistakes everything for an
array, leading to neat one-liners; and Perl confuses everything
period, making each line a joyous adventure <wink>.
-- Tim Peters
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Ian Smith wrote:
> However, what normally happens to attachments to questions@, at least to
> digests, is that they get stripped with a note pointing to the original
> attachment, as this subsequent message from Chad illustrates:
>
Which makes sense - attachments don't clog up the list, and people can
download them if they want. What I think is happening is that the
attachment is being stripped, and Outlook is looking for it since it can
be inferred that it exists from the MIME type. Of course, the error
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does, and it's just a line, not a modal dialog), and have nothing to do
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as a PGP signature (which is no different from any other attachment)
also caused Bob the error. I wonder if *any* scrubbed attachment will
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I just had to set up another system as my macbook's network card has
died, so I'll send a signed message with Thunderbird in a minute to see
if it also causes the error. Bob, if it still causes an error, you
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these problems, since you can't control what users on mailing lists send
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--Andrew
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I have continued to experiment and am still running into the same issues.
Anyone?
-Matt
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Matt Brennan <brennanma@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am running FreeBSD 6.2-release. I have been running PAT via natd
> and ipfw for some time now and it runs great. However, I continue to
> try and employ static NAT on this router, and as soon as I do so all
> other clients lose routing. My natd.conf is as below:
>
> unregistered_only
> use_sockets
> log_ipfw_denied
> redirect_address 10.100.1.2 66.92.79.20
> alias_address 66.92.79.89
>
> Whenever I run with this configuration all clients except the
> static'ed one lose routing out of the building. I have tried switching
> the order of the alias_address and redirect_address.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> -Matt
>
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On 10-Jun-08, at 3:02 AM, Nejc Škoberne wrote:
> Actually I don't think you can do the same thing with a tunnel. You have
> to use a different IP addresses for the tunnel itself. Have you read the
> OpenVPN manual?
Yes, I should have been clearer: With a tunnel, I can still push routes
and DNS, as long as I'm willing to sacrifice the same IP address.
>> Yes, I did: 'tcpdump -i tun0'. Nothing shows up on the server, but on
>> the client (OS X) I can see the pings being sent.
> This means that there is a problem with the OpenVPN connection. Can
> you show
> the tail of your logs on both sides?
Here's what I found:
Wed Jun 11 12:49:46 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: Learn:
10.8.0.6 -> client1/192.168.0.1:53237
Wed Jun 11 12:49:46 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: primary
virtual IP for client1/192.168.0.1:53237: 10.8.0.6
This was interesting since that IP wasn't being set by the client. I'd
been manually setting it to 10.8.0.2, which caused this:
Wed Jun 11 12:50:04 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source
address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped
Wed Jun 11 12:50:05 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source
address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped
Wed Jun 11 12:50:06 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source
address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped
Wed Jun 11 12:50:07 2008 client1/192.168.0.1:53237 MULTI: bad source
address from client [10.8.0.2], packet dropped
Changing it to 10.8.0.6 allowed the VPN to work over the tunnel. I could
access the VPN server on .1.
Bridging still doesn't work - and I don't see any traffic over the
interface either. Unfortunately, my laptop's network card just kicked
the dust so it's going in for servicing. I might test it out using the
Windows client on my desktop, but since it's inside the network all
ready I imagine it would be much harder to test.
>> proto tcp
>
> Why are you using TCP anyway?
I'd been having problems with UDP and QoS a long time ago. I just hadn't
bothered to change it since it was working.
Thanks,
--Andrew
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Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
> The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new,
> but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See
> www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about
> 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound,
> etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD
> displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and
> uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for
> us.
That's a neat system. Are there any retailers in North America which
sell them individually?
--Andrew
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 01:40:19PM +0100, Florent Thoumie wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:41:25PM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:09:33AM -0500, Novembre wrote:
> >> > Two questions:
> >> > 1) Is it possible to determine the date a port/package is installed?
> >>
> >> ls -ld /var/db/pkg/<port>, use the mtime of the directory.
> >>
> >> > 2) How can I delete all the ports/packages installed after a certain=
date?
> >>
> >> Use a combination of find with the -mtime flag, and pkg_delete.
> >
> > Not really. This is a bit dangerous.
> >
> > The dangerous part is "the mtime of the directory". It would be much
> > better to use the mtime of the +CONTENTS file, since it never changes
> > *after* the package has been installed.
>=20
> It actually does if you're using portupgrade (and probably
> portmaster), see the @pkgdep entries.
>=20
> Use +DESC, +COMMENT or +MTREE_DIRS instead.
Yep. Sorry. Any of those would be a better candidate.
I'd simply forgotten about port management tools modifying
the dependencies in-place.
G'luck,
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At 06:36 AM 6/11/2008, jonathan michaels wrote:
>greetings all,
>
>firstly, i am not subscribed, please cc: responces, appreciated.
>
>i have been using freebsd v2.2.5-release (as my domains mx host
>on a 486dx33 .. that was upgraded after 20 years running with 6
>years on v2.2.5 to a p5-133 mhz into which i moved teh whole scsi
>harddisk ssubsystem (card and drives) ther it ran v 2.2.5-r
>faultlessly untill last january when i cleaned of teh hard
>drives reformated averything and installed freebsd v6.2-release
>!!
>
>than after a few weeks of settling down and setting up every
>thing worked well, as expected, then the sendmail nightmares
>started ... basically the system could not send mail anywhere
>!!!
>
>cutting long story short, it was basically my having to relearn
>teh whole universe .. there were more differences than i had
>planned for and it was an uphill battle relearning essentially
>everything i had learned about freebsd over th previous ten
>years.
>
>about 3 weeks ago things started to make sence, herebouts,
>slowly it is clearing up, as i started to understand sendmail
>and getting teh configurations right .. most of teh poorly
>configured hosts i've now cleaned up and are working properly,
>but, one ...
>
>i have now got one left and like teh linux chappie who i found
>on google who had a similar "out of teh blue experience" like
>mine, (about 2003) one day sendmail worked then teh veyr next it was
>defereing everytingh .. just like here. this chappie had
>replaced his nic, i've not done angthiny like that hppen here,
>the machine is the machine and no hardware has been changed ??
>
>i donot understand what is going on here .. i've included all
>teh differnt bits in teh maillog file
>
>here is teh /var/log/maillog exerpt
>
>Jun 9 00:00:00 reality newsyslog[15991]: logfile turned over
>
>Jun 9 03:01:05 reality sendmail[16485]: grew WorkList for
>/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
>Jun 9 03:06:36 reality sendmail[17417]: m58H6aGk017417: from=root,
>size=12938, class=0, nrcpts=1,
>msgid=<200806081706.m58H6aGk017417@reality.caamora.com.au>,
>relay=root@localhost
>Jun 9 03:06:36 reality sendmail[17417]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=42938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't
>assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:40 reality sendmail[17475]: m58H6dJG017475: from=root,
>size=137243, class=0, nrcpts=1,
>msgid=<200806081706.m58H6dJG017475@reality.caamora.com.au>,
>relay=root@localhost
>Jun 9 03:06:40 reality sendmail[17475]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=167243, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't
>assign requested address
>
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: grew WorkList for
>/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=132938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't
>assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:10, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=257243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root,
>delay=19:56:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3644350,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root,
>delay=19:56:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=3768123,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:59:57, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=4542984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=23:59:53, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=4666757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root,
>delay=1+18:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=7861512,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root,
>delay=1+19:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8054226,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root,
>delay=1+19:44:17, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8177393,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+22:45:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=8670146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+00:00:08, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=8952860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+00:00:04, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=9076027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm,
>delay=2+12:14:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11111854,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m560pgSA005674:
>to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+16:15:07,
>xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11920494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
>stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55LAINO005198: to=root,
>delay=2+19:56:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12571102,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55LAINP005198: to=root,
>delay=2+19:56:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12676645,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=13469736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+23:59:56, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=13575279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+16:48:27, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16413061,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5tA000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+16:48:34, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414081,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5Bx000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+16:47:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414249,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I54R000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+16:48:08, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414653,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I5uH000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+16:48:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16414849,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 03:06:49 reality sendmail[17463]: m550I52r000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+16:48:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=16416465,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>
>lots trimmmmmmed
>
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: grew WorkList for
>/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=03:04:07, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=762938, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't
>assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=03:04:04, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=887243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root,
>delay=23:00:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4274350,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root,
>delay=23:00:18, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4398123,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+03:03:51, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=5172984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+03:03:47, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=5296757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root,
>delay=1+21:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8491512,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root,
>delay=1+22:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8684226,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root,
>delay=1+22:48:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=8807393,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+01:49:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=9300146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+03:04:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=9582860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+03:03:58, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=9706027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm,
>delay=2+15:18:24, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=11741854,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m560pgSA005674:
>to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+19:19:01,
>xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12550494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
>stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55LAINO005198: to=root,
>delay=2+23:00:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13201102,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55LAINP005198: to=root,
>delay=2+23:00:25, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13306645,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+03:03:55, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=14099736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+03:03:50, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=14205279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 06:10:43 reality sm-msp-queue[17859]: m550I5vr000621:
>to=postmaster, delay=3+19:52:21, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=17043061, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>
>some 5 mb repetative log entries removed ..
>
>Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I50f000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+23:24:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17806561,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I5vJ000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+23:24:14, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17807047,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 09:42:35 reality sm-msp-queue[622]: m550I5tL000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+23:24:19, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17807590,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: grew WorkList for
>/var/spool/clientmqueue to 2000
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58LAi8l017980: to=root,
>delay=03:01:40, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=584304,
>relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58LAi8m017980: to=root,
>delay=03:01:40, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=708609,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58H6aGk017417: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=07:05:48, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=1482938, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m58H6dJG017475: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=07:05:45, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=1607243, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57LAP8l013868: to=root,
>delay=1+03:01:59, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=4994350,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57LAP8m013868: to=root,
>delay=1+03:01:59, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=5118123,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57H6qfr013304: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+07:05:32, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=5892984, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m57H6u1Q013363: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=1+07:05:28, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=6016757, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56MMWd3009824: to=root,
>delay=2+01:49:52, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9211512,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56LMVd3009703: to=root,
>delay=2+02:49:52, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9404226,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56LMVd4009703: to=root,
>delay=2+02:49:52, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=9527393,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56ILDAU009315: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+05:51:11, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=10020146, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56H6f3Y009045: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+07:05:43, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=10302860, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m56H6jhg009104: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=2+07:05:39, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=10426027, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m564qJd3006478: to=jlm,
>delay=2+19:20:05, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=12461854,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m560pgSA005674:
>to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=2+23:20:42,
>xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13270494, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0,
>stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55LAINO005198: to=root,
>delay=3+03:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=13921102,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55LAINP005198: to=root,
>delay=3+03:02:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=14026645,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55H6mA6004634: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+07:05:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=14819736, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m55H6rEw004692: to=root,
>ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=3+07:05:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
>pri=14925279, relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign
>requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5vr000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+23:54:02, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17763061,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5tA000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+23:54:09, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17764081,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 10:12:24 reality sm-msp-queue[1077]: m550I5Bx000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=3+23:53:26, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=17764249,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I53u000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=4+01:52:13, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346025,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5tK000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=4+01:52:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346379,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I50f000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=4+01:52:22, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18346561,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5vJ000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=4+01:52:31, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18347047,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>Jun 9 12:10:52 reality sm-msp-queue[1245]: m550I5tL000621: to=postmaster,
>delay=4+01:52:36, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=18347590,
>relay=[127.0.0.1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>
>Jun 9 12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280: from=jlm,
>size=483, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<20080609021707.GA1262@caamora.com.au>,
>relay=jlm@localhost
>Jun 9 12:17:07 reality sendmail[1280]: m592H7UK001280:
>to=jlm@caamora.com.au, ctladdr=jlm (1001/1001), delay=00:00:00,
>xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30483, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1],
>dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Can't assign requested address
>
>this last entry was the resutl of teh post test after adding
>
>'SMART_HOST' 'mail.caamora.com.au'
>in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all
>bases.
>
>i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr
>
> and then an entry into the mailertable
>
>. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
>
>again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post,
>again this defered post business .. can't asign ..
>
>there is something going on here that i donot understand ..
>some enlightenment would be appreciated, please.
>
>the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me
>access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message
>and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i
>have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for
>smart_host mail_hub macros.
>
>is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to
>postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet
>(me and hardware issues)
>
>it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough
>about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this
>one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was
>doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of
>sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except
>teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh
>maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron
>events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder
>
>it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come
>to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back
>to freebsd v2.2.5 ..
>
>regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess
>
>jonathan
You need to have in /etc/mail/mailertable:
.caamora.com.au esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
and rebuild mailertable.db
In /etc/mail/domaintable:
mail.caamora.com.au
and rebuild domaintable.db
in /etc/mail/local-host-names:
caamora.com.au
and double check your MX record and /etc/hosts
Once that is all done, execute:
/etc/rc.sendmail stop
wait until all instances die then:
/etc/rc.sendmail start
-Derek
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all
> blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can
> turn this off
Obviously you have been lucky to never be a victim of
silent disk corruption (or you just haven't noticed).
There are other people who didn't have that much luck,
including me.
ZFS' checksumming and self-healing is a blessing. If
you don't know how it works and call it marketing blah,
then I suggest you read up on it a bit.
And by the way, it doesn't take any significant amount
of CPU power on hardware that is not ancient. I agree
that ZFS is not suitable to run on ancient hardware.
It isn't designed for that.
You're free to use UFS, of course, and keep suffering
from its shortcomings.
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Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before
via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download
isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the
console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my
server to finish the work without having to leave my main workstation
running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now,
and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know how.
Steven Lake
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Quoting "Derek Graham" <derek.graham@att.net>:
> Hey all,
>
> I have tried using swfdec-plugin to do flash, but it doesnt seem to work too
> well at least with firefox.
> One ... I prefer being able to select what flash loads automaticly and
> Two ... I like to be able to see the flash video but all it does is freeze
>
> I can't seem to get linux-flashplugin7 anymore due to the restricted status.
> Flashplugin9 locks up also, which we all know already. I have heard gnash
> doesnt do much better... Anyone have a solution that works halfway?
I've got a question. A friend has been loaning me his old laptop at
work that runs Ubuntu and flash runs fine. I have not been able to
make it fail, yet at least. Could there be a clue in Ubuntu somewhare?
I'm actually thinking of running it under kqemu, if there isn't too
much overhead, on my amd64 laptop until this gets sorted out.
If anyone has flash9 working dependably under freebsd, please let us know how.
Thanks,
ed
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rtorrent should work for you....
bye
Norman
2008/6/11 Steve Lake <steve.lake@raiden.net>:
> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before
> via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download
> isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the
> console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my
> server to finish the work without having to leave my main workstation
> running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now,
> and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know how.
>
>
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Lake <steve.lake@raiden.net> wrote:
> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before via
> the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download isos
> and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console so
> I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to
> finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do
> the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if there's
> a way to do this, I'd love to know how.
>
Look into rTorrent. It's excellent. It's CLI, and runs perfect inside
a screen session. It supports encryption, prioritization, and all
other major features of any good client.
http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
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Hello,
Novembre <novembre@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is that I don't use any mail client, but the old fashion way of
> using a web browser to log into my account and read my emails. That's why I
> asked this question in the first place. Call me paranoid, but I just feel
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> So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list from
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> E-Mail output to send an email from within GMail to the OP and the list so
> that it's threaded properly as well?
You need to take the "Message-ID" header of the message
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header of your response. That's what a standard mail
client does when you reply to a message.
The "In-Reply-To" header is used by clients and webmailers
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I've never used Gmail or Yahoo, so I don't know if they
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By the way, I'm in a similar situation: I'm not subscribed
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Quoting "herbert langhans" <herbert.raimund@gmx.net>:
> There are some instructions how you can get the Flashplayer running. =20
> Not perfect, but it will do in many cases.
> http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl/af/index.html
Excellent howto Herb. My problem is that it seems that firefox-devel =20
doesn't work with amd64 but being stubborn, I'm forcing a compile just =20
to be sure. If it doesn't work on my laptop amd64 I will find a i386 =20
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F1 (vote yes) to rtorrent. I have rtorrents running permanently on my
servers, seeding torrent files. I use screen, just like you suggest.
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Schiz0 <schiz0phrenic21@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Lake <steve.lake@raiden.net> wrote:
> > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before
> via
> > the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download
> isos
> > and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console
> so
> > I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to
> > finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do
> > the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if
> there's
> > a way to do this, I'd love to know how.
> >
>
> Look into rTorrent. It's excellent. It's CLI, and runs perfect inside
> a screen session. It supports encryption, prioritization, and all
> other major features of any good client.
>
> http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
>> Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough:
>>
>> FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go:
>>
>> The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but
>> it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See
>> www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about
>> 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound,
>> etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD
>> displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and
>> uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us.
>>
>> We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works,
>> has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add
>> support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround).
>
> I don't know if this machine is going to be sited on an insecure
> network or not. If it is, then you'll probably be using ssh. Without
> a math co-proc to do the crypto, it will be horrendous. I don't even
> know if ssh would work with an architecture without a maths unit.
You apparently do not use the source :), go and grep double and float
from some of the most common programs you use (games, scientific stuff
and crappy UI code excused).
> If it can't work with ssh, then you might be restricting your market.
ssh does not use any floating point for any crypto algorithm. Oh,
openssh does use doubles, it prints some ratios in some places, such as
how many percent of something has been transferred. It seems to be
stirring random numbers as floating point non-exactness does is not a
bother there, but that is not used past session init. There is no
human-noticeable effect on normal ssh use.
I was one of the first guinea pigs for original ssh. We did have plenty
of non-math cpus back then, and I did run ssh on non-fpu hardware until
two years ago. We did run backups and configuration tasks over ssh on
number of non-fpu computers acting as routers and other servers those
days. Today's games might be different, but that is not what we do on
these embedded computers...
> I think you are punishing yourself unneccesarily by going with a
> processor without maths. You restrict the software (both OS &
> application) you can run.
Applications cannot tell the difference between math emulation and
hardware from anything else than performance, so there is no code
difference in application layer, and kernel does not do fp at all, other
than trapping fpu instructions and emulating them on non-fpu hardware.
Kernel itself does not do fp math.
I do not quite understand where this fear of non-fpu came from, as it
made no practical difference just few years ago for anything but
scientists in labs and intensive cad/graphics work. In particular I do
not understand why people have an idea that everything uses floating
point. Very few programs do heavy math processing, most common use is
to double divide two longs to print out some statistics when program ends.
>> The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did
>> not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really
>> what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be
>> internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest
>> chipsets on 802.11 cards etc.
>>
>> There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do
>> not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without
>> math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers.
>
> Can't you find a manufacturer that makes something similar with a DX
> instead? Or can you email this company and ask them how much it would
> cost to run off X units with a 486DX rather than SX?
This is not 486, it is System-on-Chip thing. There are couple of very
cheap SoCs, which do not have math, but performance is otherwise
adequate for most applications. They are much faster than 486SX, by
5-10 times factor, so they are becoming popular on embedded devices.
>> Heikki
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> > In my personal opinion, the small gain you get is more than
> > overwhelmed by the big pain you get from setting CPUTYPE.
>
> I'm setting CPUTYPE on all of my machines for many years,
> without the slightest problems. No pain at all. They're
> all kinds of different processors, c3-2 (VIA), athlon64,
> and so on. In some cases the difference is very noticable.
exactly like me. i set it everywhere, no problems.
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Konrad Heuer wrote:
> are there any experiences with FreeBSD being an NFSv4 client out there?
>
> And furthermore, is there any further development of NFSv4 functionality
> within FreeBSD to come closer to RFC 3530?
As far as I know (not 100% sure, though), the NFSv4 client
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> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents=20
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> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all
> > blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can
> > turn this off
>
> Obviously you have been lucky to never be a victim of
> silent disk corruption (or you just haven't noticed).
what you mean. that disk wrote the data wrong and doesn't detect it on
read? i would mean broken disk processor, it's memory etc.
possible - as much as broken main processor, main memory, some of chips on
motherboard etc. - which will make ZFS calculate checksum wrong on write,
or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly
operating programs.
given the complexity of motherboard+CPU etc. to complexity of disk
hardware, i don't think "silent disk failure" happens often.
i think all your cases wasn't disk, but general hardware problems.
ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you.
even without ZFS it WOULD cause problems with programs like random
crashes.
personally i often got disk failing the way that it was unable to read or
write giving an error, but never things like that.
> You're free to use UFS, of course, and keep suffering
> from its shortcomings.
i have to start suffering at first....
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Steve Lake wrote:
> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents
> before via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way
> to download isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to
> do it via the console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk
> away, allowing my server to finish the work without having to leave my
> main workstation running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using
> bittornado right now, and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to
> know how.
At least on Debian, the bittornado port includes the curses interface.
It was called 'btdownload.curses' I think. It's possible it is all ready
installed or is available via ports.
Another possibility is to run a GUI client in a VNC session. I do this
with Azureus and am quite pleased with it.
--Andrew
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This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up to =20
date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be =20
provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD =20
I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a =20
simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and installs a =20
new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and haven't =20
seen any issues previously. It has been running 24/7 since new, about =20
8 months.
3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows:
Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b
Architecture: i386
Architecture Version: 2
Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB)
Blocksize: 512
Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008
Hostname: casasponti.net
Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008
root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO
Panic String: page fault
Dump Parity: 2395754794
Bounds: 2
Dump Status: good
the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it on =20
line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably a =20
crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where to =20
start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed it. =20
Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
ed
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Quoting eculp <eculp@casasponti.net>:
> This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up =20
> to date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be =20
> provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD =20
> I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a =20
> simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and installs a =20
> new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and =20
> haven't seen any issues previously. It has been running 24/7 since =20
> new, about 8 months.
>
> 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows:
>
> Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b
> Architecture: i386
> Architecture Version: 2
> Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB)
> Blocksize: 512
> Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008
> Hostname: casasponti.net
> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
> Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008
> root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO
> Panic String: page fault
> Dump Parity: 2395754794
> Bounds: 2
> Dump Status: good
>
> the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it on =20
> line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably a =20
> crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where to =20
> start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed it. =20
> Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
Forgot I did try to debug but got nowhere:
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO # kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions=
.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...
Cannot access memory at address 0x0
(kgdb)
Ignorance, I'm sure.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ed
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Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
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>
> Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow
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> or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to
> generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the
> keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your
> advice. :)
>
> Best regards,
I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other suggestions.
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eculp wrote:
> This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up to
> date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be provoking
> these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD I've not seen
> something just happen like this. It is a simi-production machine that
> cvsups daily and builds and installs a new world and kernel. Ports are
> updated about once a week and haven't seen any issues previously. It
> has been running 24/7 since new, about 8 months.
>
> 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows:
>
> Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b
> Architecture: i386
> Architecture Version: 2
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> root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO
> Panic String: page fault
> Dump Parity: 2395754794
> Bounds: 2
> Dump Status: good
>
> the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it on
> line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably a crash
> course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where to start since
> after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed it. Any help,
> suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
See the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging.
However, panics that "suddenly" start happening frequently on a system
that has been stable for a while with no OS or workload changes made,
are usually due to the hardware starting to fail.
Kris
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Oliver Fromme wrote:
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
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> > By default, it appears that Mailman does not do content filtering. It also has
> > pass rules (if filtering is enabled) for multipart/mixed, multipart/alternative
> > and text/plain. So, it's possible that MIMEDefang is the culprit instead.
>
> It's documented in the FreeBSD Handbook:
>
> http://freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAILFILTERING
>
> Best regards
> Oliver
Good find - it looks like Mail is using application/pkcs7-signature,
while Thunderbird is using , application/x-pkcs7-signature, which is
allowed. According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/MIME#Caveats,
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signatures anyways on the list.
--Andrew
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 15:16:29 Steve Lake wrote:
> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before
> via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download
> isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the
> console so I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my
> server to finish the work without having to leave my main workstation
> running to do the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now,
> and if there's a way to do this, I'd love to know how.
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rtorrent will cover all your needs and more ..
excellent c++ CLI torrent client.
once you use it, there's no going back .. guaranteed
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Quoting "Kris Kennaway" <kris@FreeBSD.org>:
> eculp wrote:
>> This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram running up =20
>> to date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be =20
>> provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running FreeBSD =20
>> I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a =20
>> simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and installs a =20
>> new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and =20
>> haven't seen any issues previously. It has been running 24/7 since =20
>> new, about 8 months.
>>
>> 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info file follows:
>>
>> Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b
>> Architecture: i386
>> Architecture Version: 2
>> Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB)
>> Blocksize: 512
>> Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008
>> Hostname: casasponti.net
>> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
>> Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10 05:54:42 CDT 2008
>> root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO
>> Panic String: page fault
>> Dump Parity: 2395754794
>> Bounds: 2
>> Dump Status: good
>>
>> the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it =20
>> on line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is probably =20
>> a crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where =20
>> to start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed =20
>> it. Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
>
> See the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging.
Thanks Kris. I did that and I'm assuming that since debugging was not =20
enabled in my kernel I got:
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO # kgdb kernel.debug /var/crash/vmcore.2
GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions=
.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...
Cannot access memory at address 0x0
(kgdb)
I assume it will only work with the new kernel because the =20
kernel.debug only got to Cannot access memory at address 0x4b55. =20
Which means I have to wait for another crash.
I have already compiled a new kernelwith debuging and will reboot =20
tonight to install the kernel and hopefully will never need to test it.
Thanks for your help,
ed
>
> However, panics that "suddenly" start happening frequently on a =20
> system that has been stable for a while with no OS or workload =20
> changes made, are usually due to the hardware starting to fail.
>
> Kris
>
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Subject: mounting WD external USB disk
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I'm trying to mount a WD "My Book" external usb hard drive, and am having
a problem.
My system:
uname -a
FreeBSD opteron.foo.bar 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Wed Jun 11
21:20:59 IDT 2008 root@opteron.foo.bar:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL
i386
camcontrol devlist
<PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A 1.08> at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,cd0)
<WD 5000AAC External 1.65> at scbus4 target 0 lun 0 (da0,pass1)
Gnome 2.22.1
from /var/log/messages:
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: umass0: <Western Digital My Book, class
0/0, rev 2.00/1.65, addr 2> on uhub4
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x1058 product
0x1100 bus uhub4
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0: <WD 5000AAC External 1.65> Fixed
Direct Access SCSI-4 device
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors:
255H 63S/T 60801C)
Jun 11 21:59:34 opteron kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0s1 is
msdosfs/My Book.
Jun 11 21:59:35 opteron kernel: pid 807 (hald), uid 560: exited on signal
11
Jun 11 22:02:01 opteron kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label msdosfs/My Book removed.
I tried a few different commands:
mount -t msdos /dev/da0 /mnt/
mount: Using "-t msdosfs", since "-t msdos" is deprecated.
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: : Invalid argument
[root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: : Invalid argument
[root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Disk too big, try '-o large' mount option:
Invalid argument
[root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1a /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1a: : No such file or directory
[root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1c /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1c: : No such file or directory
[root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0s1c /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1c: : No such file or directory
[root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs -o large /dev/da0 /mnt/
mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0: : Invalid argument
Any help is appreciated, the exact command would be really helpful.
TIA
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eculp writes:
> I've got a question. A friend has been loaning me his old laptop
> at work that runs Ubuntu and flash runs fine. I have not been
> able to make it fail, yet at least. Could there be a clue in
> Ubuntu somewhare? I'm actually thinking of running it under
> kqemu, if there isn't too much overhead, on my amd64 laptop until
> this gets sorted out.
=09The "Flashplugin"s in the ports collection are the Linux
versions, which require both a) an interface between the plugin and
the browser and b) the Linux emulation layer.
=09My last information about Flash9, gleaned from various FreeBSD
mailing lists: the problem is thought to be _somewhere_ between the
plugin and the emulation layer. This is roughly equivalent to
saying there is a mouse somewhere in <inesrt your continent here>.
=09The current set of permanent pest control experts (the Linux
emulation crew) has considered the matter and decided this is not
worth the time. As of the time I heard about it, this was in part
because a) Flash9 had tangible problems under Linux and b) even if
they knew what was broken in the plugin the track record of Adobe
being willing to fix it was poor. (Volunteers for a special mission
should apply on the emulation@ list.)
=09Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have a working Flash<current>
even under emulation. But after _years_ of having hopes raised and
dashed I'm pretty much waiting for Flash10 which is supposed to have
an open spec API (ABI??).
=09=09=09=09Robert Huff
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Bill Campbell wrote:
> I much prefer apg which can generate more-or-less pronounceable
> passwords which it is possible to remember (at least after typing
> them a few times :-).
>
This is not supposed to be an offense to any author of a password
generator, but:
Never, but never trust any random password generator. You do not know
the author, you do not know the algoritm it uses and in worst case
scenarion you do not know if there is a millisecond traffic to somewhere
that is recording the generated password.
> One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they
> end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the
> keyboard.
>
You don't need a generated password for that; it is common behaviour for
people that aren't involved in any responsibility whatsoever.
Jos
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[attribution fixed]
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> Oliver Fromme wrote:
> > Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > > 3) a CPU,cache and memory bandwidth hogging "feature" of checksumming all
> > > blocks. thing that are already done in disk hardware. fortunately you can
> > > turn this off
> >
> > Obviously you have been lucky to never be a victim of
> > silent disk corruption (or you just haven't noticed).
>
> what you mean. that disk wrote the data wrong and doesn't detect it on
> read? i would mean broken disk processor, it's memory etc.
Correct. It does happen.
> possible - as much as broken main processor, main memory, some of chips on
> motherboard etc. -
A broken processor usually results in random crashes, not
silent data corruption. Broken memory will be noticed if
it supports ECC, otherwise it will also result in crashes,
most probably.
> which will make ZFS calculate checksum wrong on write,
Even if that happens (without crashes or other things that
you'll notice immediately), the error will be detected by
ZFS and fixed ("healed") if possible, i.e. when running
with redundancy and at least one copy has a good checksum.
(GELI can only detect, but not fix. ZFS can fix it, too.
I assume in theory it would be possible to make geli co-
operate with gmirror so it could fix bad blocks, too, but
that's just theory. ZFS is reality.)
> or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly
> operating programs.
What do you mean, wrong data generated by programs? If
a program generates wrong output, there's nothing any
file system could do about that. That's not the file
system's job at all. The file systems job is to ensure
the integrity of data written to the disk, and ZFS does
exactly that.
> given the complexity of motherboard+CPU etc. to complexity of disk
> hardware, i don't think "silent disk failure" happens often.
Fortunately it doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
And when it happens, you are in really serious trouble.
You usually notice it when it's too late and the last
good backup media was already recycled.
> i think all your cases wasn't disk, but general hardware problems.
In my case it was a disk with media surface errors, and
the disk failed to report the error properly to the OS.
Instead it just returned bad data.
> ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you.
Please stop spreading FUD. There is no "may or may not".
If a disk returns bad data, ZFS _will_ detect it.
Silent corruption _cannot_ happen with ZFS, except if
you disable the checksumming feature intentionally.
> even without ZFS it WOULD cause problems with programs like random
> crashes.
Please elaborate what the problem is, if you think there
is one.
> personally i often got disk failing the way that it was unable to read or
> write giving an error, but never things like that.
As I said: You were lucky.
> > You're free to use UFS, of course, and keep suffering
> > from its shortcomings.
>
> i have to start suffering at first....
Many people suffer without knowing. :-)
I do suffer from UFS' shortcomings on many machines
on which I can't use ZFS (or other file systems) for
various reasons.
Best regards
Oliver
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> [root@opteron ~]# mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/
> mount_msdosfs: /dev/da0s1: Disk too big, try '-o large' mount option: Invalid
> argument
try it
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Andrew Berry wrote:
> Nejc ?koberne wrote:
> >
> > Why are you using TCP anyway?
>
> I'd been having problems with UDP and QoS a long time ago. I just hadn't
> bothered to change it since it was working.
Note that using TCP on top of TCP can cause certain
problems, especially when packets are lost. There's
a good explanation on this page:
http://sites.inka.de/sites/bigred/devel/tcp-tcp.html
The short story is: If any packets are lost, the
resend-algorithms of the two TCP layers will start
to interfere with each other, because both have their
own timeouts and will start retransmitting packets
at their respective levels. This is bad, because it
leads to a snowball effect.
If you can guarantee that there will be zero packet
loss, then TCP is fine. Otherwise I recommend to
run the VPN on UDP.
Best regards
Oliver
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> A broken processor usually results in random crashes, not
> silent data corruption.
result in both in my practice. with broken companion chips (chipset) it's
silent data corruption is common, while crashes can be under specific
cases. that's from what i've got.
> > or even calculate checksum right of wrong data generated by badly
> > operating programs.
>
> What do you mean, wrong data generated by programs? If
wrong data generated by program because of hardware problem.
> You usually notice it when it's too late and the last
> good backup media was already recycled.
not that bad, but of course - i make backups.
> > i think all your cases wasn't disk, but general hardware problems.
>
> In my case it was a disk with media surface errors, and
> the disk failed to report the error properly to the OS.
> Instead it just returned bad data.
so i am just happy to never having it, while normal disk failures are
quite common..
>
> > ZFS may help detect it, or it may not. if it helped for you.
>
> Please stop spreading FUD. There is no "may or may not".
> If a disk returns bad data, ZFS _will_ detect it.
please read more carefully. i didn't say it.
i just say that "disk returning bad data" is very rare case, lots of
other - more frequent - hardware problems will not be detected.
if you like to give lots of CPU power and disk bandwidth for calculation
of checksums on each read/write - then OK.
if you think you are secured this way - then OK.
i just say it doesn't make lot of protection against bad hardware, not
worth the expense.
i probably shouldn't type that point as it can be turned off in ZFS.
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On Thursday 05 June 2008, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> I was testing the same software on my desktop PC when I noticed that it
> ran *much* faster, and found that it was spending only about 1% as much
> time in the kernel on Linux as it was on FreeBSD.
I'm almost ready to give up on this. I've gone as far as completely rewriting the
original C++ program into straightforward C, and still the performance is terrible on
FreeBSD versus Linux.
On Linux:
$ time ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null
./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 42.65s user 20.09s system 71% cpu 1:28.15 total
On FreeBSD:
Also note that on the FreeBSD machine, I have enough RAM that to buffer the entire
file, and in practice gstat shows that the drives are idle for subsequent runs after
the first one.
Right now my code looks a lot like:
for(recordnum = 0; recordnum < recordcount; recordnum++) {
buf = malloc(recordlength);
fread(buf, recordlength, 1, dbffile);
/* Do stuff with buf */
memoblock = getmemoblock(buf);
/* Skip to the requested block if we're not already there */
if(memoblock != currentmemofileblock) {
currentmemofileblock = memoblock;
fseek(memofile, currentmemofileblock * memoblocksize, SEEK_SET);
}
memohead = malloc(memoblocksize);
fread(memohead, memoblocksize, 1, memofile);
currentmemofileblock++;
/* Do stuff with memohead */
free(memohead);
free(buf);
}
...where recordlength == 13 in this one case. Given that the whole file is buffered in
RAM, the small reads shouldn't make a difference, should they? I've played with
setvbuf() and it shaves off a few percent of runtime, but nothing to write home about.
Now, memofile gets quite a lot of seeks. Again, that shouldn't make too much of a
difference if it's already buffered in RAM, should it? setvbuf() on that file that
gets lots of random access actually made performance worse.
What else can I do to make my code run as well on FreeBSD as it does on a much wimpier
Linux machine? I'm almost to the point of throwing in the towel and making a Linux
server to do nothing more than run this one program if I can't FreeBSD's performance
more on parity, and I honestly never thought I'd be considering that.
I'll gladly give shell access with my code and sample data files if anyone is
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:35 AM, Bill Campbell wrote:
> One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they
> end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the
> keyboard.
I'm going to take this opportunity to preach. Everyone should be using
a good password management system. Otherwise people will use either
weak passwords or will use passwords which are predictable from other
passwords. (That is using the same password or variants of the same
password for many separate realms.)
I don't run FreeBSD on desktops so I haven't looked at the various
tools available. On OS X, I use 1password which makes excellent use
of the OS X Keychain system, and has terrific webbrowser integration.
I'm fairly sure that the Apple Keychain libraries have been or can be
ported to FreeBSD, but it might require GnuStep.
On Window's I recommend Password Safe. In ports, sysutils/pwsafe
provides a CLI utility that can manage Password Safe data. And
security/gorilla provides a tcl/tk GUI for pwsafe. I've used both on
OS X, and the work fine, but I much prefer 1password in that
environment.
I've never looked at things like kwallet or other Unixish password
management systems. But once again, I recommend that everyone use a
proper password management system.
-j
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> On Linux:
>
> $ time ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null
> ./cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 42.65s user 20.09s system 71% cpu
> 1:28.15 total
>
> On FreeBSD:
Oops! I left that out:
$ time /tmp/cdbf /var/tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null
/tmp/cdbf /var/tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 59.15s user 11.93s system 36% cpu 3:14.53
total
Again, Linux is on a boring Dell workstation, FreeBSD is on a far faster Dell server 15K
RPM SCSI drives (even if they don't come into play once the data files are buffered).
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Quoting "Robert Huff" <roberthuff@rcn.com>:
>
> eculp writes:
>
>> I've got a question. A friend has been loaning me his old laptop
>> at work that runs Ubuntu and flash runs fine. I have not been
>> able to make it fail, yet at least. Could there be a clue in
>> Ubuntu somewhare? I'm actually thinking of running it under
>> kqemu, if there isn't too much overhead, on my amd64 laptop until
>> this gets sorted out.
>
> =09The "Flashplugin"s in the ports collection are the Linux
> versions, which require both a) an interface between the plugin and
> the browser and b) the Linux emulation layer.
> =09My last information about Flash9, gleaned from various FreeBSD
> mailing lists: the problem is thought to be _somewhere_ between the
> plugin and the emulation layer. This is roughly equivalent to
> saying there is a mouse somewhere in <inesrt your continent here>.
> =09The current set of permanent pest control experts (the Linux
> emulation crew) has considered the matter and decided this is not
> worth the time. As of the time I heard about it, this was in part
> because a) Flash9 had tangible problems under Linux and b) even if
> they knew what was broken in the plugin the track record of Adobe
> being willing to fix it was poor. (Volunteers for a special mission
> should apply on the emulation@ list.)
> =09Don't get me wrong - I'd love to have a working Flash<current>
> even under emulation. But after _years_ of having hopes raised and
> dashed I'm pretty much waiting for Flash10 which is supposed to have
> an open spec API (ABI??).
Great information, Robert. Thanks.
ed
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/etc/hosts :
::1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost
127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost
/etc/defaults/rc.conf :
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration.
... but ifconfig always shows no inet:
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
so we added to /etc/rc.conf :
ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0"
... still not inet4 loopback if (so commented it out).
no errors in /var/log/messages,
dmesg -a shows no error,
... other than services failing to grab ports on 127.0.0.1
thanks
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:30:17PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
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> Frank Shute wrote:
> >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
> >>Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough:
> >>
> >>FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go:
> >>
> >>The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but
> >>it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See
> >>www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about
> >>3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials, sound,
> >>etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many LCD
> >>displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest and
> >>uses least power, latter of which is the more critical requirement for us.
> >>
> >>We would like to use it for certain control applications. Linux works,
> >>has been tested, but requires patches (turn math emulation on, add
> >>support for built-in ethernet, bug workaround).
> >
> >I don't know if this machine is going to be sited on an insecure
> >network or not. If it is, then you'll probably be using ssh. Without
> >a math co-proc to do the crypto, it will be horrendous. I don't even
> >know if ssh would work with an architecture without a maths unit.
>
> You apparently do not use the source :), go and grep double and float
> from some of the most common programs you use (games, scientific stuff
> and crappy UI code excused).
No, I don't use the source :)
I kind of assumed "It must do a lot with numbers, so it will run like
a dog without a co-processor".
>
> > If it can't work with ssh, then you might be restricting your market.
>
> ssh does not use any floating point for any crypto algorithm. Oh,
> openssh does use doubles, it prints some ratios in some places, such as
> how many percent of something has been transferred. It seems to be
> stirring random numbers as floating point non-exactness does is not a
> bother there, but that is not used past session init. There is no
> human-noticeable effect on normal ssh use.
It was explained to me (off-list) that co-processors work on floats
not ints.
>
> I was one of the first guinea pigs for original ssh. We did have plenty
> of non-math cpus back then, and I did run ssh on non-fpu hardware until
> two years ago. We did run backups and configuration tasks over ssh on
> number of non-fpu computers acting as routers and other servers those
> days. Today's games might be different, but that is not what we do on
> these embedded computers...
I didn't think you'd be having the odd game of Quake on one of your
boxes. But think of it as an added feature! :)
>
> >I think you are punishing yourself unneccesarily by going with a
> >processor without maths. You restrict the software (both OS &
> >application) you can run.
>
> Applications cannot tell the difference between math emulation and
> hardware from anything else than performance, so there is no code
> difference in application layer, and kernel does not do fp at all, other
> than trapping fpu instructions and emulating them on non-fpu hardware.
> Kernel itself does not do fp math.
>
> I do not quite understand where this fear of non-fpu came from, as it
> made no practical difference just few years ago for anything but
> scientists in labs and intensive cad/graphics work. In particular I do
> not understand why people have an idea that everything uses floating
> point. Very few programs do heavy math processing, most common use is
> to double divide two longs to print out some statistics when program ends.
I used to do a lot of CAD and buying a machine without a co-processor
was considered madness. That's where my prejudice comes from.
>
> >>The problem with is that while FreeBSD 4 seemed to boot on it, it did
> >>not recognize any peripherals as they are new. Old OS's are not really
> >>what we want, this is not one-off but volume product, it will be
> >>internet-connected so we need bugfixes and we need support for latest
> >>chipsets on 802.11 cards etc.
> >>
> >>There is another similar CPU, even slower and less power consuming, I do
> >>not remember the part number, I think it was about 100 MHz 486 without
> >>math as well. This was some manufacturer of microcontrollers.
> >
> >Can't you find a manufacturer that makes something similar with a DX
> >instead? Or can you email this company and ask them how much it would
> >cost to run off X units with a 486DX rather than SX?
>
> This is not 486, it is System-on-Chip thing. There are couple of very
> cheap SoCs, which do not have math, but performance is otherwise
> adequate for most applications. They are much faster than 486SX, by
> 5-10 times factor, so they are becoming popular on embedded devices.
I was referring to the 100MHz 486 you looked at.
I'd still get an fpu so you can install a largely unpatched OS of your
choice even if the fpu is redundant beyond installing the OS.
I guess you looked at the Soekris stuff and discounted it. Shame,
because a lot of folks find them useful with *BSD.
>
> >>Heikki
>
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--
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and we can do this, too:
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0 up
then ifconfig shows:
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
thanks
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Len Conrad wrote:
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> /etc/hosts :
>
> ::1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost
> 127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost
>
>
> /etc/defaults/rc.conf :
>
> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration.
>
> ... but ifconfig always shows no inet:
>
> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>
>
> so we added to /etc/rc.conf :
>
> ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0"
>
> ... still not inet4 loopback if (so commented it out).
>
> no errors in /var/log/messages,
> dmesg -a shows no error,
> ... other than services failing to grab ports on 127.0.0.1
>
>
> thanks
> Len
Do you have network_interfaces set to something different than "auto" in
/etc/rc.conf?
Yuri
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On Wed, June 11, 2008 04:54, Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain
> math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD
> did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility.
>
> So, the question:
>
>
> What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of
> installation and use. A linux with basic userland and ports(-like) system,
> and quick and easy install like FreeBSD ?
Heikki,
Gentoo (http://www.gentoo.org) is a pretty easy install and is the most
closely aligned Linux distribution I've seen to the "build it from source"
mentality. It's gotten fancier over the years but still has at its core
the notion of building blocks and doesn't push binary package distribution
the way most seem to these days. Whether it'll install on an FPU-less
system I don't know. Might be worth a look.
Please do report back with what you ultimately find works; this is a
source of interest for me and I'm sure others.
--
Jon Hamilton
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>>/etc/hosts :
>>::1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost
>>127.0.0.1 localhost.mydomain.tld localhost
>>
>>/etc/defaults/rc.conf :
>>ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1" # default loopback device configuration.
>>... but ifconfig always shows no inet:
>>lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
>> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
>> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>>
>>so we added to /etc/rc.conf :
>>ifconfig_lo0="inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0"
>>... still not inet4 loopback if (so commented it out).
>>no errors in /var/log/messages,
>>dmesg -a shows no error,
>>... other than services failing to grab ports on 127.0.0.1
>>
>>thanks
>>Len
>
>Do you have network_interfaces set to something different than
>"auto" in /etc/rc.conf?
I read this thread but missed that some pkg_add added
network_interfaces in rc.conf, and left out "lo"
thanks, Yuri
Len
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CPU: Intel (R) Xeon (TM) cpu 2.40 gz (2399.93 mhz, 686-class cpu)
Features =
Logical CPU's per core:2
real memory 2047mb
avail memory 1992mb
MPTable : <COMPAQ PROLIANT>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System
detected: 2 cpu's
cpu0 (BSP):APIC ID:0
cpu1(AP):APICID:6
acd0:CDROM<COMPAQ SC-140c/cq04> at ata0-master UDMA33
da1:<COMPAQ BD03664553 3B08 fixed direct access SCSI-2 device
da1s1 34726 mb
fsck on exsiting file system
2 files 2 used
copying boot floppy to /stand on root filesystem
/mnt/stand
/etc
...
cpio /mnt/stand/boot-crunch linked to /mnt/stand/hostname
4862 blocks
DEBUG generating /etc/fstab file
g-vfs-done():acd0[READ (offset=32768,length=2048)] error=5
error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist
input-output error (5)
unable to initialize selected media
I have tried various i386 releases :5.3,6.1,6.2.7.0. 8.0 current iso
disk1 install disks
Installation proceeds normally, newfs done and then just stops when
files are to be created
I have tried google but unable to find problem.
thank you for your time.
Damon
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> from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this loss
> largely due to the use of spyware.
>
> My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to
do not include that programs to FreeBSD. they are not it's part. it's just
few of thousand programs that can run under FreeBSD.
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 11:54:07 Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
> I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not
> contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long
> time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only
> possibility.
This is the commit that removed it:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2003-July/007431.html
It's probably not that difficult to reintroduce.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
>
> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA
> Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem,
> 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion,
>
> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm
> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling
> and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I
> am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
>
> My questions are:
> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
>
> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary
> Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
> compatibility stable enough for work ?
It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility
lists to check for specific peripherals.
The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem.
////jerry
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
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> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents before via
> the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download isos
> and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the console so
> I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server to
> finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to do the
> work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if there's a
> way to do this, I'd love to know how.
I run bittornado's btlaunchmany.py script through screen (sysutils/screen)
for the very reason you describe. It's been working great for years.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote:
> Hi All,
>=20
> Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 =
000=20
> from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this l=
oss=20
> largely due to the use of spyware. =20
>=20
> My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to=
=20
> attacks, including cracking and spyware.=20
That is a very broad question without a simple answer. It depends among
other things on the purpose of the machine and the knowledge of the
administrator.=20
E.g, if you are creating a workstation that doesn't run externally
accessible servers you could configure the firewall to block all
incoming new connection requests. That will go a long way toward
safeguarding the machine against network attacks.
There is no way to safeguard a machine that an attacker has physical
access to; he could e.g. steal the harddisk and read your data at his
leisure (unless it is encrypted on-disk, e.g. with geli(8)). Also, no OS
can defend against social engineering attacks.=20
I would not worry overly much about spyware. Most if not all of those
are windows binaries. Also, unix mail clients as a rule do not execute
scripts embedded in mail messages.
> In addition, is there anyway to=20
> prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. a=
ny=20
> program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installe=
d=20
> (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run. =20
You could mount /home and other partitions where users have write access
like /tmp with the noexec option. Note that that wouldn't block the executi=
on
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Roland
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in case somebody gets stuck as i was - here are detailed instruction and
the CORRECT ORDER in which the needed kernel modules HAVE to be loaded
in order for the megacli to work properly...
big thanks to Christoph Schug....
Christoph Schug wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008, kalin m wrote:
>
>
>> thanks Vince... i didnt wanted to install the linux base because a lot of
>> kids will be running some 'cool' boards or blogs that probably have cool
>> linux holes too. but just for the hell of it and for he purpose to get to
>> the controller i did. it took a while to find the
>> Linux_MegaCli_1.01.09.zip. it's not on the freebsd site and not on the LSI
>> site (anymore) either.. anyway after a lot of rpm downloads and patching
>> and variable changing and fs mountings i get this:
>>
>> # /usr/local/sbin/megacli -adpCount
>> ERROR:Could not detect controller.
>>
>> Controller Count: 0.
>>
>
> From my experience there are some pitfalls when using the
> sysutils/linux-megacli port. First of all you need the mfi_linux.ko
> kernel module loaded. Moreover, this module has to be loaded _before_
> the Linux ABI stuff (linux.ko, linprocfs.ko, linsysfs.ko). So starting
> with a pretty sane list of loaded kernel modules ...
>
> | # kldstat
> | Id Refs Address Size Name
> | 1 3 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel
> | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko
> | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko
> | # kldload mfi_linux.ko
> | # kldload linprocfs.ko linsysfs.ko
> | # kldstat
> | Id Refs Address Size Name
> | 1 15 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel
> | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko
> | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko
> | 7 1 0xffffffffb44a1000 3af mfi_linux.ko
> | 8 3 0xffffffffb44a2000 18a6a linux.ko
> | 9 1 0xffffffffb44bb000 350c linprocfs.ko
> | 10 1 0xffffffffb469a000 9d3 linsysfs.ko
> | # mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc
> | # mount -t linsysfs linsys /compat/linux/sys
> | # cat /compat/linux/sys/class/scsi_host/host*/proc_name
> | megaraid_sas
> | megaraid_sas
>
> In case you haven't loaded mfi_linux.ko before the other Linux ABI
> stuff, you will see '(null)' entries here instead of 'megaraid_sas'.
> Furthermore, the compat.linux.osrelease sysctl should be set to 2.6.12.
>
> | # sysctl -w compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.12
> | compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 -> 2.6.12
>
> If everything is fine, you should be able to query your RAID controller:
>
> | # megacli -LDInfo -LALL -aALL | grep ^State:
> | State: Optimal
> | State: Optimal
>
> This has been tested on a Dell PowerEdge 2970 with both an PERC5/i and
> PERC5/e controller running FreeBSD 7.0/amd64.
>
> | # pciconf -lv | grep ^mfi
> | mfi0@pci0:8:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f031028 chip=0x00151028 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
> | mfi1@pci0:15:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f011028 chip=0x00151028 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
>
> -cs
>
>
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Steve Lake <steve.lake@raiden.net> wrote:
> Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents
> before via the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way
> to download isos and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to
> do it via the console so I can start a torrent in screen and then
> walk away, allowing my server to finish the work without having to
> leave my main workstation running to do the work like I normally do.
You might also consider mldonkey, which does the the file sharing via
a daemon (mlnet) which you can connect to via various methods,
including telnet, a web interface, and several GUI applications. It's
primarily an ed2k client and its BT support isn't very sophisticated,
but it does have the advantage that the daemon will start from rc.d and
run in the background without any manual intervention.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 000
> from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this loss
> largely due to the use of spyware.
>
> My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to
> attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is there anyway to
> prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. any
> program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installed
> (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run.
>
> If anyone, in addition, has answers for Linux and *BSD it would be great to
> know as well.
>
> Best Regards
>
> David
It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a
hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the government to
the computer. This capability can be implemented using System
Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. It
would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the government
has access to your computer.
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:03 PM, YANSWBVCG wrote:
> It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a
> hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the
> government to
> the computer. This capability can be implemented using System
> Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now.
> It
> would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the
> government
> has access to your computer.
This is not the place to get into this debate, but I think that
someone should state for the record that the vast majority of security
experts would disagree with you.
However, I fully acknowledge that if the National Security Agency or
GCHQ or the like wanted to break into any one of my systems, I'm sure
that they could.
But the question wasn't about making a system that could withstand
something like the NSA but instead about defending against run of the
mill spyware. Switching from Windows to FreeBSD would obviously
improve matters for that kind of attack, but the real answers to the
original question require an understanding of the nature of the
threats and the nature of the counter measures far beyond what was
evident in the question. After all, most spyware is installed with
the users' consent (though the user may not know that it is sypware.)
For just about everyone, I recommend pretty much anything written by
Bruce Schneier. As as start there is his very brief "How to think
about security" essay:
http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0204.html#1
-j
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Great info, Kalin.
I have several boxes with LSI controllers, the PERC 5i works
wonderfully with FreeBSD (though the Dell 6850 sucks), and I have a
couple boxes with Supermicro boards with built-in LSI MegaRaid,
however it's done in software. This means that the mfi controller
works fine as individual disks, but will not support any RAID levels
in FreeBSD. You're probably almost as well off using gmirror anyway.
I've started using 3ware cards again after a bit of a hiatus and they
work great, and the FreeBSD support is good.
My next experiment is going to be some HighPoint cards. I'm not sure
at this point I wold trust them with my important data, but what's
cool is they are very inexpensive cards, show up in computer stores
like Fry's, and seem to have pretty decent FreeBSD support for their
size. I'm going to try an 8-port in my desktop (I use it for some
pretty serious MySQL work at times) soon... IMHO if the cards are
decent it'd be nice to reward them for their efforts by putting some
money their way.
-Patrick
2008/6/11 kalin m <kalin@el.net>:
>
> in case somebody gets stuck as i was - here are detailed instruction and the
> CORRECT ORDER in which the needed kernel modules HAVE to be loaded in order
> for the megacli to work properly...
>
> big thanks to Christoph Schug....
>
>
>
> Christoph Schug wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 02, 2008, kalin m wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> thanks Vince... i didnt wanted to install the linux base because a lot
>>> of kids will be running some 'cool' boards or blogs that probably have cool
>>> linux holes too. but just for the hell of it and for he purpose to get to
>>> the controller i did. it took a while to find the Linux_MegaCli_1.01.09.zip.
>>> it's not on the freebsd site and not on the LSI site (anymore) either..
>>> anyway after a lot of rpm downloads and patching and variable changing and
>>> fs mountings i get this:
>>>
>>> # /usr/local/sbin/megacli -adpCount
>>> ERROR:Could not detect controller.
>>>
>>> Controller Count: 0.
>>>
>>
>> From my experience there are some pitfalls when using the
>> sysutils/linux-megacli port. First of all you need the mfi_linux.ko
>> kernel module loaded. Moreover, this module has to be loaded _before_
>> the Linux ABI stuff (linux.ko, linprocfs.ko, linsysfs.ko). So starting
>> with a pretty sane list of loaded kernel modules ...
>>
>> | # kldstat | Id Refs Address Size Name
>> | 1 3 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel
>> | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko
>> | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko
>> | # kldload mfi_linux.ko
>> | # kldload linprocfs.ko linsysfs.ko
>> | # kldstat | Id Refs Address Size Name
>> | 1 15 0xffffffff80100000 6eeea8 kernel
>> | 2 1 0xffffffff807ef000 14d0 accf_http.ko
>> | 3 1 0xffffffffb449f000 1fce nullfs.ko
>> | 7 1 0xffffffffb44a1000 3af mfi_linux.ko
>> | 8 3 0xffffffffb44a2000 18a6a linux.ko
>> | 9 1 0xffffffffb44bb000 350c linprocfs.ko
>> | 10 1 0xffffffffb469a000 9d3 linsysfs.ko
>> | # mount -t linprocfs linproc /compat/linux/proc
>> | # mount -t linsysfs linsys /compat/linux/sys
>> | # cat /compat/linux/sys/class/scsi_host/host*/proc_name
>> | megaraid_sas
>> | megaraid_sas
>>
>> In case you haven't loaded mfi_linux.ko before the other Linux ABI
>> stuff, you will see '(null)' entries here instead of 'megaraid_sas'.
>> Furthermore, the compat.linux.osrelease sysctl should be set to 2.6.12.
>>
>> | # sysctl -w compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.12
>> | compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 -> 2.6.12
>>
>> If everything is fine, you should be able to query your RAID controller:
>>
>> | # megacli -LDInfo -LALL -aALL | grep ^State:
>> | State: Optimal
>> | State: Optimal
>>
>> This has been tested on a Dell PowerEdge 2970 with both an PERC5/i and
>> PERC5/e controller running FreeBSD 7.0/amd64.
>>
>> | # pciconf -lv | grep ^mfi
>> | mfi0@pci0:8:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f031028 chip=0x00151028
>> rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
>> | mfi1@pci0:15:14:0: class=0x010400 card=0x1f011028 chip=0x00151028
>> rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
>>
>> -cs
>>
>>
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> On Jun 11, 2008, at 4:03 PM, YANSWBVCG wrote:
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>> It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a
>> hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the government to
>> the computer. This capability can be implemented using System
>> Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. It
>> would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the government
>> has access to your computer.
>
> This is not the place to get into this debate, but I think that someone
> should state for the record that the vast majority of security experts
> would disagree with you.
A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based upon
hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently take over
Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn about these virtual
rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html.
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> A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based upon
> hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently take over
> Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn about these
> virtual
> rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html.
That is simple (in concept) yet absolutely brilliant! I'm sure that
people much smarter that I am have thought about these things more
carefully than I have, but I'm not convinced that a blue pill would be
completely undetectable.
First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory
through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system
reported memory is accurate.
Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard
reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system)
should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the
blue pill.
But even if detection is possible these ways, a Blue Pill would be
extremely difficult to detect once inserted, and so the focus would
have to be entirely on prevention.
Again, these are just my first thoughts after looking at this very
briefly. The people who come up with this stuff and do proper
analysis are both smarter and more knowledgeable than I am.
Cheers,
-j
--
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Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> I don't run FreeBSD on desktops so I haven't looked at the various tools
> available. On OS X, I use 1password which makes excellent use of the OS
> X Keychain system, and has terrific webbrowser integration. I'm fairly
> sure that the Apple Keychain libraries have been or can be ported to
> FreeBSD, but it might require GnuStep.
Any idea what the name of the project for the Security framework is? I
can't seem to find anything on Google. I'd love to be able to access
keychains from OS X on other platforms, without resorting to dumping
everything to plaintext.
--Andrew
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the question is: how do I set the root password on mysql? this is a
first step in getting phpbb3 up. i have other CMS tools installed
on aristotle, m jail where my webserver runs.
this failed:
mysqladmin -u root password
mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
according to my logs it has been about 5 years since i did this last.
advice please!
gary
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 07:45:51PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:17 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based upon
>> hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently take over
>> Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn about these virtual
>> rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html.
>
> That is simple (in concept) yet absolutely brilliant! I'm sure that people
> much smarter that I am have thought about these things more carefully than
> I have, but I'm not convinced that a blue pill would be completely
> undetectable.
Check out also http://bluepillproject.org/
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> On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:17 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
>
> > A relatively new security threat known as 'The Blue Pill', based
> > upon hardware, is a class of virtual rootkits that can silently
> > take over Intel and AMD systems. A good site to visit to learn
> > about these virtual
> > rootkits is http://invisiblethings.org/index.html.
>
> That is simple (in concept) yet absolutely brilliant! I'm sure that
> people much smarter that I am have thought about these things more
> carefully than I have, but I'm not convinced that a blue pill would
> be completely undetectable.
>
> First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory
> through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system
> reported memory is accurate.
What if memtest already runs within the virtualization box? How can it
determine what the "right" amount of memory is supposed to be? And if
the virtualizer hot-patched memtest instructions, either on loading it
or dynamically while it runs, it could make it report whatever it
liked.
> Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard
> reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system)
> should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the
> blue pill.
Yes, but you've got to have a very close look at it, as it won't
necessarily appear on the screen -- being caught as well by the
virtualizer. And Joanna also has a paper about fooling hardware
capture cards into reporting bogus data on her site, so you won't
even be able to detect that RAM contains something else upon boot
than those hardware capture cards are supposedly reporting.
If all this is as she's described, it is truly brilliant from a
technical POV... and a very worrying thought as well.
> But even if detection is possible these ways, a Blue Pill would be
> extremely difficult to detect once inserted, and so the focus would
> have to be entirely on prevention.
>
> Again, these are just my first thoughts after looking at this very
> briefly. The people who come up with this stuff and do proper
> analysis are both smarter and more knowledgeable than I am.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -j
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Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> the question is: how do I set the root password on mysql? this is a
> first step in getting phpbb3 up. i have other CMS tools installed
> on aristotle, m jail where my webserver runs.
>
> this failed:
>
>
> mysqladmin -u root password
> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
Start here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html
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> > Hello,
> >
> > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would
> > allow me to generate random passwords without actually creating any
> > accounts or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to
> > allow me to generate a random string of characters. I know I can
> > randomly hit the keyboard but if anything like that exists, many
> > thanks for your advice. :)
> >
> > Best regards,
> I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other
> suggestions.
There are actually two versions of this in ports: sysutils/pwgen and
sysutils/pwgen2. The latter is an independent rewrite rather than a
version 2, and seems to be much more secure.
The problem with pwgen is that its PRNG is very weakly seeded, making
it vulnerable to simple brute-force attacks. As most of the entropy
comes from the time (in *integer* seconds), it's particularly weak if an
attacker knows roughly when the password was generated. An attacker with
local access may even be able to compute the passwords directly.
pwgen2 gets random numbers directly from /dev/random, which is how
it should be.
IMO pwgen should be removed from the ports tree, or failing that should
be patched to use arc4random(), which is self-seeding. I don't really
see the point in keeping it though.
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Gary Kline wrote:
> this failed:
>
>
> mysqladmin -u root password
> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
>
>
> according to my logs it has been about 5 years since i did this last.
>
> advice please!
>
> gary
>
>
>
Your mysql server already has a password for user root.
2 options
1 - mysqladmin -u root -p password
Of course I think you dont know current password or you wouldnt be
asking....so second option
Read
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html#resetting-permissions-unix
with that steps you will reset root password
Best regards
Rodrigo Gonzalez
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:08 PM, cpghost wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:45:51 -0500
> Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey@goldmark.org> wrote:
>> First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory
>> through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system
>> reported memory is accurate.
> What if memtest already runs within the virtualization box? How can it
> determine what the "right" amount of memory is supposed to be?
I was assuming that that would be known by the operator.
> And if
> the virtualizer hot-patched memtest instructions, either on loading it
> or dynamically while it runs, it could make it report whatever it
> liked.
Of course.
>> Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard
>> reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system)
>> should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the
>> blue pill.
> Yes, but you've got to have a very close look at it, as it won't
> necessarily appear on the screen -- being caught as well by the
> virtualizer. And Joanna also has a paper about fooling hardware
> capture cards into reporting bogus data on her site, so you won't
> even be able to detect that RAM contains something else upon boot
> than those hardware capture cards are supposedly reporting.
Yes. I've now read through some of Rutowska's slides (following the
link provided by dfeustel in another post in this thread).
> If all this is as she's described, it is truly brilliant from a
> technical POV... and a very worrying thought as well.
Yes it is worrying. The next time I reboot the one server I've got
with an SVM capable processor I'm going to disconnect the power (to
make sure that I'm getting a real reboot instead of a spoofed one) and
then on reboot I will disable SVM in the BIOS.
But mostly I'm just in admiration of people who can think of things
this clever (even if they are very scary and dangerous things).
Thank y'all for a very enlightening discussion.
-j
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:53:56PM -0400, Andrew Berry wrote:
>
> Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
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> >Hello,
> >
> >Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would allow
> >me to generate random passwords without actually creating any accounts
> >or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to allow me to
> >generate a random string of characters. I know I can randomly hit the
> >keyboard but if anything like that exists, many thanks for your
> >advice. :)
> >
> >Best regards,
>
> I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other suggestions.
>
I like sysutils/pwgen too.
In it's default state it will give a screenful of semi-pronounceable
passwords from which you pick one.
It can also be used in a shell script to generate single passwords.
Having the password semi-pronounceable avoids the sticky-note problem
to a large extent as they're easy to learn.
Can also generate gibberish, if that's your choice. Widely tunable.
For password containment i.e all my online passwords, I use a shell
script with gpg and a strong password.
So in theory, I only have to remember my user login and the password
for gpg. In practice, I remember a few more that I use regularly.
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 7:46 PM, Andrew Berry wrote:
> Any idea what the name of the project for the Security framework is?
> I can't seem to find anything on Google. I'd love to be able to
> access keychains from OS X on other platforms, without resorting to
> dumping everything to plaintext.
This looks like a good place to start.
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/security/index.html
I, too, would like my OS X Keychains to be portable.
Cheers,
-j
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>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:45:51 -0500
>> Jeffrey Goldberg <jeffrey@goldmark.org> wrote:
>
>>> First it should consume memory. A very complete test of memory
>>> through a modified memtest should be able to detect whether system
>>> reported memory is accurate.
>
>> What if memtest already runs within the virtualization box? How can it
>> determine what the "right" amount of memory is supposed to be?
>
> I was assuming that that would be known by the operator.
>
>> And if
>> the virtualizer hot-patched memtest instructions, either on loading it
>> or dynamically while it runs, it could make it report whatever it
>> liked.
>
> Of course.
>
>>> Secondly, a blue pill would need to be reinserted after a hard
>>> reboot. Therefore a look at the boot process (of a non-live system)
>>> should be able to see whether there is something that reinserts the
>>> blue pill.
>
>> Yes, but you've got to have a very close look at it, as it won't
>> necessarily appear on the screen -- being caught as well by the
>> virtualizer. And Joanna also has a paper about fooling hardware
>> capture cards into reporting bogus data on her site, so you won't
>> even be able to detect that RAM contains something else upon boot
>> than those hardware capture cards are supposedly reporting.
>
> Yes. I've now read through some of Rutowska's slides (following the link
> provided by dfeustel in another post in this thread).
>
>> If all this is as she's described, it is truly brilliant from a
>> technical POV... and a very worrying thought as well.
>
> Yes it is worrying. The next time I reboot the one server I've got with an
> SVM capable processor I'm going to disconnect the power (to make sure that
> I'm getting a real reboot instead of a spoofed one) and then on reboot I
> will disable SVM in the BIOS.
How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus, trojan,
or rootkit?
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In the last 4 months I bought a new monitor to replace the one that
clunked out in me. I am currently using it with an old PS2 type
keyboard and mouse attached to a creaky old desktop that will eventually
be replaced. Likely I will want to replace it with a laptop with wifi
and a lot more memory and hard drive so that I can take it with me. Can
I still use the old monitor as a second display?
Can this be done? Is it done? What are the issues?
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:17:59AM +0100, RW wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:53:56 -0400
> Andrew Berry <andrewberry@sentex.net> wrote:
>
> > Zbigniew Szalbot wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Excuse me my ignorance. Is there a utility in FreeBSD that would
> > > allow me to generate random passwords without actually creating any
> > > accounts or modifying existing ones? I am looking for something to
> > > allow me to generate a random string of characters. I know I can
> > > randomly hit the keyboard but if anything like that exists, many
> > > thanks for your advice. :)
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > I've used pwgen from ports. It sounds similar to the other
> > suggestions.
>
> There are actually two versions of this in ports: sysutils/pwgen and
> sysutils/pwgen2. The latter is an independent rewrite rather than a
> version 2, and seems to be much more secure.
>
> The problem with pwgen is that its PRNG is very weakly seeded, making
> it vulnerable to simple brute-force attacks. As most of the entropy
> comes from the time (in *integer* seconds), it's particularly weak if an
> attacker knows roughly when the password was generated. An attacker with
> local access may even be able to compute the passwords directly.
Thanks for the heads-up.
>
> pwgen2 gets random numbers directly from /dev/random, which is how
> it should be.
>
> IMO pwgen should be removed from the ports tree, or failing that should
> be patched to use arc4random(), which is self-seeding. I don't really
> see the point in keeping it though.
It would be nice if it could be patched and a portaudit warning issued
for it so users could update.
The patching would be beyond me unfortunately...or fortunately, as I
would likely make it *really* insecure ;)
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John Wynstra <jwynstra@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> In the last 4 months I bought a new monitor to replace the one that clunked
> out in me. I am currently using it with an old PS2 type keyboard and mouse
> attached to a creaky old desktop that will eventually be replaced. Likely
> I will want to replace it with a laptop with wifi and a lot more memory and
> hard drive so that I can take it with me. Can I still use the old monitor
> as a second display?
Yes.
> Can this be done? Is it done? What are the issues?
You can search for FreeBSD + dual monitors on google and find some examples +
usual pitfalls.
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 9:05 PM, dfeustel@mindspring.com wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:51:16PM -0500, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
>> The next time I reboot the one server I've got with an
>> SVM capable processor I'm going to disconnect the power (to make
>> sure that
>> I'm getting a real reboot instead of a spoofed one) and then on
>> reboot I
>> will disable SVM in the BIOS.
>
> How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus,
> trojan,
> or rootkit?
Arrrrghh!!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jos Chrispijn
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:29 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: generating random passwords
>
>
> Bill Campbell wrote:
> > I much prefer apg which can generate more-or-less pronounceable
> > passwords which it is possible to remember (at least after typing
> > them a few times :-).
> >
> This is not supposed to be an offense to any author of a password
> generator, but:
> Never, but never trust any random password generator. You do not know
> the author, you do not know the algoritm it uses and in worst case
> scenarion you do not know if there is a millisecond traffic to somewhere
> that is recording the generated password.
This issue is very easily solved with open source code, as you
can simply read the code before running it. That is one of the
reasons that most crypto implementations that people trust
to actually keep things private are open source.
> > One of the biggest problems with random passwords is that they
> > end up written on yellow-stickies on the monitor or under the
> > keyboard.
> >
> You don't need a generated password for that; it is common behaviour for
> people that aren't involved in any responsibility whatsoever.
>
Such as people who don't read the source for any password generator
before running it?
Ted
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Unfortunately after updating my portsnap; it did not work. Here is the
error I get:
$ firefox
INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0
System error?:: Unknown error: 0
$ firefox
INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0
System error?:: Unknown error: 0
It's interesting to note that you don't have to download the tzupdater
tool from Java (which requires you to create an account with their site).
In order to avoid getting that file just edit the Makefile prior to
running make. This may be necesarry for java to work, but it gave me the
same error with and without that TZ package. Anyway, which firefox
version are your running? I'm using firefox 2.0.0.12.
--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Manolis Kiagias <sonicy@otenet.gr> wrote:
> From: Manolis Kiagias <sonicy@otenet.gr>
> Subject: Re: Java Dilemma
> To: camiloreyes82@yahoo.com
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:03 AM
> Camilo Reyes wrote:
> > I am running a FreeBSD 7.0 system and I'm having
> the hardest time trying
> > to get java to work (I'm sure this has been
> brought up before - but a
> > google search did not reveal anything). My problem is
> that I can't find
> > the JDK US DST Timezone Update Tool - 1.3.0 that it
> mentions on the
> > build (/usr/ports/java/diablo-jre15). I've looked
> on the Java Sun website,
> > and they don't have the correct version, it seems
> they have a newer one.
> > Would this still work??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Camilo
> > "Bono Vince Malum"
> >
> >
> >
>
> I've installed the diablo-jre15 port two days ago (on
> the 8th). I
> downloaded this:
>
> tzupdater-1_3_5-2008b.zip
>
> And the version of the port is:
>
> diablo-jre-1.5.0.07.01_10
>
> Have you used csup/portsnap to update your ports tree? You
> might be
> trying to compile an older version.
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> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Damon Blom <surferdamon@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>> DEBUG generating /etc/fstab file
>> g-vfs-done():acd0[READ (offset=32768,length=2048)] error=5
>> error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist
>> input-output error (5)
>> unable to initialize selected media
>>
>
> looks like you may be running into a problem with your cd-rom. have
> you tried to install via NFS, HTTP or FTP? You should be able to
> select this via sysinstall.
>
> -pete
>
>
Hi
Thank's. I thought so too but had same results when I used usb cdrom.
I had no problem installing kubuntu,
I'll try another installation media.
Thank's
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On Jun 11, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> I'm almost ready to give up on this. I've gone as far as completely
> rewriting the
> original C++ program into straightforward C, and still the
> performance is terrible on
> FreeBSD versus Linux.
On Linux, GNU libc buffers file data much more extensively than
FreeBSD's libc does. It means that doing things like reading a dozen
bytes or so at a time is not intolerably slow on the former system,
but that doesn't mean that it's a great idea either.
If your data files are small enough to fit into 2GB of address space,
try using mmap() and then treat the file(s) as an array of records or
memoblocks or whatever, and let the VM system deal with paging in the
parts of the file you need. Otherwise, don't fread() 1 record at a
time, read in at least a (VM page / sizeof(record)) number of records
at a time into a bigger buffer, and then process that in RAM rather
than trying to fseek in little increments.
(This is the opposite of calling setvbuf() to set the I/O buffer to,
say, 13 bytes...)
Also, if you're malloc'ing and freeing buf & memohead with every
iteration of the loop, you're just thrashing the malloc system;
instead, allocate your buffers once before the loop, and reuse them
(zeroize or copy new data over the previous results) instead.
Regards,
--
-Chuck
> Also note that on the FreeBSD machine, I have enough RAM that to
> buffer the entire
> file, and in practice gstat shows that the drives are idle for
> subsequent runs after
> the first one.
>
> Right now my code looks a lot like:
>
> for(recordnum = 0; recordnum < recordcount; recordnum++) {
> buf = malloc(recordlength);
> fread(buf, recordlength, 1, dbffile);
>
> /* Do stuff with buf */
>
> memoblock = getmemoblock(buf);
> /* Skip to the requested block if we're not already there */
> if(memoblock != currentmemofileblock) {
> currentmemofileblock = memoblock;
> fseek(memofile, currentmemofileblock * memoblocksize, SEEK_SET);
> }
> memohead = malloc(memoblocksize);
> fread(memohead, memoblocksize, 1, memofile);
> currentmemofileblock++;
>
> /* Do stuff with memohead */
>
> free(memohead);
> free(buf);
> }
>
> ...where recordlength == 13 in this one case. Given that the whole
> file is buffered in
> RAM, the small reads shouldn't make a difference, should they? I've
> played with
> setvbuf() and it shaves off a few percent of runtime, but nothing to
> write home about.
>
> Now, memofile gets quite a lot of seeks. Again, that shouldn't make
> too much of a
> difference if it's already buffered in RAM, should it? setvbuf() on
> that file that
> gets lots of random access actually made performance worse.
>
> What else can I do to make my code run as well on FreeBSD as it does
> on a much wimpier
> Linux machine? I'm almost to the point of throwing in the towel and
> making a Linux
> server to do nothing more than run this one program if I can't
> FreeBSD's performance
> more on parity, and I honestly never thought I'd be considering that.
>
> I'll gladly give shell access with my code and sample data files if
> anyone is
> interested in testing it.
> --
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:08:29AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> The update of nvidia-driver-169.12 fails on my system.
> ( 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD)
> ----------------------------------------
> estanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes=20
> -Wmissin
> g-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef=20
> -Wno-pointer-sign -ff
> ormat-extensions -c nvidia_subr.c
> nvidia_subr.c:654: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_init'
> nv-freebsd.h:406: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_init' was here
> nvidia_subr.c:739: error: conflicting types for 'nv_os_agp_teardown'
> nv-freebsd.h:407: error: previous declaration of 'nv_os_agp_teardown'=20
> was here
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05/sr=
c.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-173.14.05.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver.
> *** Error code 1
>=20
> Stop in /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver.
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D>>> make failed for x11/nvidia-driver
> =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D>>> Update for nvidia-driver-169.12 failed
> =3D=3D=3D>>> Aborting update
> -----------------------------------------------
>=20
> Any ideas?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Leslie
FWIW I had major issues with 173.14.05 (X.org crash to syscons at random
and usually immediately when using GLX stuff) and reverted to 169.12 which
is running once again without issue.
Anyhow, I remember experiencing issues like what you're mentioning though
it's a while ago so my memory is hazy. IIRC, it comes from conflicts
between the Mesa and Nvidia libraries, and there was some voodoo that
seemed to help (though I'm not sure if it's still used), which was to
set `USE_NVIDIA_GL=3Dyes' in /etc/make.conf.
There may also be some library rebuilding needed once that make variable
has been set (libGL and friends).
Disclaimer: the above advice is based on a hazy memory of dealing with
similar issues and may be totally inaccurate and/or snake oil.
frase
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 02:08:13PM -0400, Schiz0 wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steve Lake <steve.lake@raiden.net> wrote:
> > Hi all. Ok, I'm curious of something. I've done torrents befor=
e via
> > the graphical interface before, but I want to setup a way to download i=
sos
> > and various FOSS apps via bittorrent, but I want to do it via the conso=
le so
> > I can start a torrent in screen and then walk away, allowing my server =
to
> > finish the work without having to leave my main workstation running to =
do
> > the work like I normally do. I'm using bittornado right now, and if th=
ere's
> > a way to do this, I'd love to know how.
> >
>=20
> Look into rTorrent. It's excellent. It's CLI, and runs perfect inside
> a screen session. It supports encryption, prioritization, and all
> other major features of any good client.
I just started using rTorrent recently, and discovered that it's pretty
much exactly what I want from a CLI/console BitTorrent client so far.
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:19:26PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
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> > the question is: how do I set the root password on mysql? this is a
> > first step in getting phpbb3 up. i have other CMS tools installed
> > on aristotle, m jail where my webserver runs.
> >
> > this failed:
> >
> >
> > mysqladmin -u root password
> > mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
> > error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
>
> Start here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/access-denied.html
>
Well, gentlemen, I may finally have a clue! The guy who set up
my networking stuff and whatever database ports there are
did not install mysql50-server. Just the -client side. This
fellow is the salt-of-the-earth type, ETC, but evidently didn't
get into phpbb or whatever I've been trying to do.
The -server side is building on my serious antique Kayak now.
My thanks to both you guys; the dev.mysql.com site is chock full
of info and should give me a boost when I try again.
gary
> --
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Andrew Berry wrote:
> Heikki Suonsivu wrote:
>> The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new,
>> but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See
>> www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on
>> about 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials,
>> sound, etc, it has VESA form factor so you can attach it behind many
>> LCD displays, etc. They have beefier models, but this one is cheapest
>> and uses least power, latter of which is the more critical
>> requirement for us.
> That's a neat system. Are there any retailers in North America which
> sell them individually?
>
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A lot of peeps use Soekris type boards, that may be an option as well.
http://www.soekris.com/products.htm. Even the lowest model has these
specs, including floating pint capability.
http://www.amd.com/epd/processors/4.32bitcont/14.lan5xxfam/24.lansc520/index.html
Brian
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I have two server installs of FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE. One is running AMD64
and the other is running i386.
The one running AMD64 is getting an error at SMTP time of:
535 5.7.8 Error: authentication failed: generic failure
Once this happens, the saslauthd thread that took the connection causes
this line to be written in ../messages:
Jun 12 05:51:01 smtpgate kernel: pid 37374 (saslauthd), uid 0: exited on
signal 11 (core dumped)
I've looked for the core dump but can't find it anywhere.
Both servers are running identical versions of:
smtpgate# pkg_info |grep cyrus
cyrus-sasl-2.1.22_1 RFC 2222 SASL (Simple Authentication and Security Layer)
cyrus-sasl-saslauthd-2.1.22 SASL authentication server for cyrus-sasl2
Does anyone know if there is an issue with cyrus sasl and/or cyrus
saslauthd on AMD64? Or is there anything special needed to be done?
-d
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Beech Rintoul wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 23 May 2006 20:44, Afrose Fathima wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am trying to install FreeBSD 6.1 on a DELL box.I have dowloaded the
>> 6.1-Release ISO images from
>> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/r...ISO-IMAGES/6.1/<ftp://ftp.freebsd.org
>>/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/> .
>> Its gives us the ISO's for three CD's bootonly,disc1,disc2.But when we
>> try
>> to install starting with the bootonly disc it misses out on a few screens
>> and also gives messages regarding unavailability of a few packages etc.
>> Also it does not ask for the insertion of the other CDs at any point of
>> the
>> installation.
>>
>> Request for some help as soon as possible.
>
> The "boot only" is just that with a few tools. If you're installing, you
> want
> to start with disc1. The FreeBSD Handbook is your friend.
>
> Beech
>
I had the same problem installing 6.2 release.
This is mentioned only once in the section 2.13.1 of the handbook. I think
that many beginers tend to go step-by-step on the installation and when
learning something new and this notion should be pointed out somewhat
earlier in chapter 2.
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Frank Shute wrote:
> I didn't think you'd be having the odd game of Quake on one of your
> boxes. But think of it as an added feature! :)
Oh, doom does not require fp, its integer only and on 100MHz Pentium it
was very smooth! I did couple of hour-long doom sessions on one of our
FreeBSD routers while waiting for a bug to regenerate itself in one of
our pops some time around 1996 :)
> I was referring to the 100MHz 486 you looked at.
>
> I'd still get an fpu so you can install a largely unpatched OS of your
> choice even if the fpu is redundant beyond installing the OS.
>
> I guess you looked at the Soekris stuff and discounted it. Shame,
> because a lot of folks find them useful with *BSD.
The last I checked Soekris boards were using more power. We use similar
boards from pcengines.ch for wireless routers. This application I am
working on needs a computer with VGA and sound interfaces.
>>>> Heikki
>
> Regards,
>
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On 10 Jun 2008 , Erik Trulsson entreated about
"Re: xRAID disks....":
> > I suspect the raidinfo is stored on the disk somewhere and a suitable
> > 'dd' command can erase it. but where and how?
>
> That kind of information is usually stored last on the disk (where it is
> least likely to be overwritten by filesystems, partitioning info, or boot
> loaders), so if you overwrite the last couple of KBs on those disks you will
> probably be fine.
> (If you want to be certain you can always use 'dd' to nuke all the
> information on the disk. That will take longer time, but you get the extra
> advantage of testing all the blocks on the disk so that they work
> correctly.)
>
> For the first you could do something like:
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad1 bs=1m skip=76318
> which should overwrite the last MB of ad1 with zeros.
I tried to overwrite just the last sector, but though dd reported
success (and took ages, seems it has to do a read for every skipped
sector) the data was still there when I used dd to display it.
I have just done a search for sector editing software but I cannot
find anything in ports. Starting to think of writing some C... how
hard can it be just to seek to a given sector and scribble zeros on
it?
so then I did this (overwrite last megabyte)and that did in fact zero
the last megabyte, taking away the raid info AND all the partition
info. not exactly what I wanted but I was going to repartition
anyway.
but I now have another disk with data and raid info on it and will
need a way to nondestructively remove the raid info there.
I did try the suggestion of 'atacontrol' but it did nothing, I also
tried 'gmirror clear' but that gives an error message, maybe I should
first create a gmirror then clear it. or maybe try the 'forget'
command....
hmmm, thinking now the gmirror create/remove route will probably
work. let me try it on a blankish disk and see....
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On 10 Jun 2008 , Erik Trulsson entreated about
"Re: xRAID disks....":
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 04:56:07PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > >
> > > The pair of ex-RAID disks are ad1 and ad2 and obviously are no longer
> > > a raid pair, yet 'something' is telling the ar() driver to try and
> > > pair them and failing because there is no raid hardware in that box.
> >
> > there are no "raid hardware" on most devices. it's just marketing hype.
>
> Most (cheap) RAID controllers do almost everything in software. Some do have
> hardware support.
this was not a cheap card, it is an Adaptec 2400A. 4 disks. It can
do RAID5 too but I never tried that, having needed 2 mirror pairs
instead.
the new motherboard is an Intel D965 with 6 SATA sockets, 4 of which
are now supporting the new RAID5 array (4x400Gb disks). whether is
is the RAID hardware or just because it is SATA2, it is damn fast
compared to IDE. pleased so far. oh, not booting off this, it is
just data (and the old IDE mirror disks must now work in the non RAID
backup server)
--
DA Fo rsyth Network Supervisor
Principal Technical Officer -- Institute for Water Research
http://www.ru.ac.za/institutes/iwr/
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>> Nameservers are hitting an address of yours. Therefore something is
>> probably handing out your address. Somebody (that would be me) has
>> looked up the address in question and even looked up the nameserver
>> which is handing out that address in a glue record.
>
> A simple problem EASILY solved.
thank all for help. i asked the registrar (gdynia.pl) to fix a problem
with one of their DNS keeping very old data with dns3 still in place.
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> In the last 4 months I bought a new monitor to replace the one that clunked
> out in me. I am currently using it with an old PS2 type keyboard and mouse
> attached to a creaky old desktop that will eventually be replaced. Likely I
> will want to replace it with a laptop with wifi and a lot more memory and
> hard drive so that I can take it with me. Can I still use the old monitor as
> a second display?
>
> Can this be done? Is it done? What are the issues?
>
Xorg support 2 monitors.
be default you will simply get two X displays (:0.0 and :0.1), first
default, and use second by
DISPLAY=:0.1 program
or you may use Xinerama in X11 that creates one virtual display from two.
if you have 2 monitors, two keyboards and two mice, you may use it as
2-use system with patched X11, i made a patch but a long time ago, it will
not work ouf of the box with new Xorg
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>> David
>
> It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have a
> hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the government to
> the computer. This capability can be implemented using System
> Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all x86 computers now. It
> would appear that, if you are connected to the internet, the government
> has access to your computer.
if it were true, this "system maintenance mode" would have to access your
network card in parallel with main OS without making conflicts
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> [image removed]=20
>=20
> Re: Effects of CPUTYPE
>=20
> Wojciech Puchar=20
>=20
> to:
>=20
> freebsd-questions, parish
>=20
> 2008-06-11 20:31
>=20
> Sent by:
>=20
> owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>=20
> > > In my personal opinion, the small gain you get is more than
> > > overwhelmed by the big pain you get from setting CPUTYPE.
> >
> > I'm setting CPUTYPE on all of my machines for many years,
> > without the slightest problems. No pain at all. They're
> > all kinds of different processors, c3-2 (VIA), athlon64,
> > and so on. In some cases the difference is very noticable.
>=20
> exactly like me. i set it everywhere, no problems.
>=20
> =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=
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I had the opposite problem: I could not build the world/kernel until I set =
CPUTYPE to "c3-2" (or "c3"). It was a brand new VIA EDEN-EX 1.5GHz with no =
other things installed but a copy of the 7.0-RELEASE-p1 source. (I did not =
have compile problems when I installed the 6.2 on a similar machine)
I set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf. I think it is only used by the gcc=20
compiler so it will probably only make a difference if you compile ports=20
or from source.
Compiling the kernel/world with CPUTYPE=3Dc3-2 I think I see an improved=20
boot time. I do not know of other gains as the server idles most of the=20
time so I do not really care as long as it is stable. I never did try to=20
time the kernel and world builds.
:-)
Torben
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> How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus,
> trojan, or rootkit?
For that matter, how do you know that the *original* bios was free
of "interesting non-essentials"? It's been a few years since bios
were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone
device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were
typically published :)
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On 12 Jun 2008 , DA Forsyth entreated about
"Re: xRAID disks....":
> hmmm, thinking now the gmirror create/remove route will probably
> work. let me try it on a blankish disk and see....
this appears to be the answer to the question:
how to stop ar recognizing a disk that used to be on a raid
controller
doing a 'gmirror label gm0 /dev/ad1' filled the last sector with
data, and 'gmirror clear /dev/ad1' reset it all to zero
now to try it on the big disk with data on it...
YES: it works, and the data slice is still there, and the commands
happen a lot faster than a dd with a skip parameter
sidenote: to see the last sector use sysinstall's fdisk to see the
data for the disk. you'll see something like
Disk name: ad3 FDISK
Geometry: 38913 cyls/255 heads/63 sectors = 625137345 sectors
Offset Size(ST) End Name PType Desc Subtype
0 63 62 - 12 unused 0
63 625137282 625137344 ad3s1 8 freebsd 165
625137345 5103 625142447 - 12 unused 0
^^^^^^^^^
you want that number in a dd commmand like this
dd if=/dev/ad3 skip=625142447 | hd -v
Thanks to all for the pointers
--
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Jerry McAllister wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
>>
>> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB nVIDIA
>> Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth, Modem,
>> 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion,
>>
>> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm
>> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling
>> and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I
>> am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
>> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
>>
>> My questions are:
>> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
>> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
>>
>> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux Binary
>> Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
>> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
>> compatibility stable enough for work ?
>
> It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility
> lists to check for specific peripherals.
>
> The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem.
>
> ////jerry
>
>> Thanks a lot.
Thank you guys.
I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test.
Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD
focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few
years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my
notebook :P
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> > It is my understanding that since 1995 all computers must have
> > a hardware back door that permits undetectable access by the
> > government to the computer. This capability can be implemented
> > using System Monitor(Maintenance) Mode which is built into all
> > x86 computers now. It would appear that, if you are connected
> > to the internet, the government has access to your computer.
>
> if it were true, this "system maintenance mode" would have to
> access your network card in parallel with main OS without making
> conflicts
A near-trivial exercise in virtualization, provided it knows what
kind of card is in use and what addresses it occupies, which is
rather easy if the "card" is in fact built onto the mainboard. Of
course, it is also trivial to defeat it by using an add-in card
instead of the one on the mainboard, esp. a card whose design did
not exist when the bios was written.
Cycles consumed by SMM might also explain why some PCs' clocks seem
to run slower than real time ...
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:40 AM, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com
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> Jerry McAllister wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
>>>
>>> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB
>>> nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), Bluetooth,
>>> Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c Li-Ion,
>>>
>>> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm
>>> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling and
>>> comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I am
>>> tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or another
>>> linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
>>>
>>> My questions are:
>>> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
>>> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
>>>
>>> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux
>>> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many commercial
>>> softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux binary
>>> compatibility stable enough for work ?
>>
>> It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility
>> lists to check for specific peripherals.
>>
>> The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem.
>>
>> ////jerry
>>
>>> Thanks a lot.
>
> Thank you guys.
>
> I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test.
>
> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD
> focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few
> years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my
> notebook :P
>
I am able to compile world and kernel and the temperature of the cores
is never higher than 67.
I find it stable.
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I had a similar problem when I tried to use kgdb to diagnose a page fault.
I found that it worked fine on another vmcore from the next crash - without
any knowledge of the subject, I assume that sometimes when FreeBSD crashed
it was unable to write a correct vmcore? Anyway, try it again with other
vmcores; I did not specifically enable debugging in the kernel but still got
a sensible trace.
Yours,
Mark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of eculp
> Sent: 11 June 2008 20:23
> To: Kris Kennaway
> Cc: questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: reboot after panic : page fault for two
> consecutive days nowwith FreeBSD stable 7.0
>
> Quoting "Kris Kennaway" <kris@FreeBSD.org>:
>
> > eculp wrote:
> >> This is on a relatively new Dell dualcore with 4G of ram
> running up
> >> to date stable. I'm not on site so I have no idea what might be
> >> provoking these crashes. In fact in many years of running
> FreeBSD
> >> I've not seen something just happen like this. It is a
> >> simi-production machine that cvsups daily and builds and
> installs a
> >> new world and kernel. Ports are updated about once a week and
> >> haven't seen any issues previously. It has been running
> 24/7 since
> >> new, about 8 months.
> >>
> >> 3 files were generated info, bounds and vmcore. The info
> file follows:
> >>
> >> Dump header from device /dev/mfid0s1b
> >> Architecture: i386
> >> Architecture Version: 2
> >> Dump Length: 341225472B (325 MB)
> >> Blocksize: 512
> >> Dumptime: Wed Jun 11 12:34:24 2008
> >> Hostname: casasponti.net
> >> Magic: FreeBSD Kernel Dump
> >> Version String: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #258: Tue Jun 10
> 05:54:42 CDT 2008
> >> root@casasponti.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO
> >> Panic String: page fault
> >> Dump Parity: 2395754794
> >> Bounds: 2
> >> Dump Status: good
> >>
> >> the vmcore is about 300M so I'm not attaching it;) I could put it
> >> on line at a moments notice. I think that what I need is
> probably
> >> a crash course on debugging a crash and I really don't know where
> >> to start since after over 10 years with freebsd I've never needed
> >> it. Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > See the developers' handbook chapter on kernel debugging.
>
> Thanks Kris. I did that and I'm assuming that since
> debugging was not
> enabled in my kernel I got:
>
> /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENCONTACTO # kgdb kernel.debug
> /var/crash/vmcore.2
> GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
> Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public
> License, and you are
> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions.
> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show
> warranty" for details.
> This GDB was configured as "i386-marcel-freebsd"...
> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
> (kgdb)
>
> I assume it will only work with the new kernel because the
> kernel.debug only got to Cannot access memory at address 0x4b55.
> Which means I have to wait for another crash.
>
> I have already compiled a new kernelwith debuging and will reboot
> tonight to install the kernel and hopefully will never need
> to test it.
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> ed
>
> >
> > However, panics that "suddenly" start happening frequently on a
> > system that has been stable for a while with no OS or workload
> > changes made, are usually due to the hardware starting to fail.
> >
> > Kris
> >
>
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Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
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> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD
i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be in
"server program" or "desktop program" whatever "desktop" means for you.
there is nothing to be enhanced.
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Anders H=E4ggstr=F6m wrote:
> I plan to install a web server for production use and ZFS looks very
> interesting, especially since it has built-in support for RAID and
> checksum.
ZFS is very nice, but slightly over-hyped imho. However, some of the =
hype is warranted and for some use cases ZFS is a much better fit than =
UFS.
Despite what Wojciech Puchar says, ZFS checksumming can be very useful. =
I recently had two drives in a hardware RAID-5 array (8 x 1 TB on a =
Highpoint RocketRAID 2340) develop unreadable sectors seemingly at the =
same time. I'm not sure what caused it but the end result was a =
broken/unavailable array. To make a long story short I managed to get =
the drives to remap the bad sectors and bring the array back online. =
Since I had ZFS on the array I didn't have to wait for fsck to run =
(takes a very long time on a 7 TB array and requires a LOT of memory to =
even work), and after the pool had been scrubbed I had a list of files =
with bad checksums that I could restore from backup. With UFS I would =
have had silent data corruption.
Beware, there have been reports of mmap not working properly together =
with ZFS. I'm not sure if this is still a problem and if it would affect =
a typical web server. It does not seem to affect any of my fileservers =
(exporting NFS).
/Daniel Eriksson
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 01:03:00AM -0700, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote:
> > How do you know that the bios has not been reflashed by a virus,
> > trojan, or rootkit?
>
> For that matter, how do you know that the *original* bios was free
> of "interesting non-essentials"? It's been a few years since bios
> were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone
> device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were
> typically published :)
Check out http://www.gensw.com and the book
_BIOS Disassembly Ninjutsu Uncovered_.
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hi all,
i have this weird log in my /var/log/messages, it keeps showing
Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op
Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: 128
Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128
and it seems to have something to do with my flash plugin, as I kill
npviewer, this message goes away, does anyone know why?? thanks !!
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I didn't find nothing about this card on web!!!
Is there any generic driver? What's the chipset? Maybe Intel?
THanks!
Philippe Schottey wrote:
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> Hello,
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> I just bought a dell inspiron 1525.
> Included is a Dell=E2=84=A2 Wireless 1395 802.11b/g Mini-Card - Europe
> Can this card be used on FreeBSD?
> Is there a specific procedure to follow?
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=A0tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on=A0my friend's=A0ma=
chine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by Samsung. The hard dr=
ive (master) appears to have SATA interface, nonetheless SYSINSTALL regogni=
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=A0. The text console works very slowly, though the machine=A0(ASUS motherb=
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=A0tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on=A0my friend's=A0ma=
chine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by Samsung. The hard dr=
ive (master) appears to have SATA interface, nonetheless SYSINSTALL regogni=
zes it as ad04!=0ABesides, SYSINSTALL complains about the disk's geometry=
=A0. The text console works very slowly, though the machine=A0(ASUS motherb=
oard) has 2 Gigs of RAM and=A0a=A0good GeForce video board. For comparison,=
my old IBM machine ( PentiumII , 128Mb RAM , 16Mb video memory ) runs Free=
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>
> ZFS is very nice, but slightly over-hyped imho.
not slightly and not only over-hyped. it's definitely far from being for
storage as "VM is for memory".
for example you can't select per file (or at least - per
pseudo-filesystem) if you want no protection, mirrored or raidz.
you must have disks dedicated for raidz, disks dedicated for mirrored
storage and disks dedicated for unprotected storage. it's inflexible and
not much usable.
actually - much less usable than "legacy"
gmirror/gstripe/gconcat+bsdlabel.
one of my systems have 8 disks. 80% of data doesn't need any protection,
it's just a need for a lot of space, other 20 needs to be mirrored.
this 80% of data is used in high bandwidth/low seeks style (only big
files).
i simply partitioned every disk on 2 partitions, every first is used to
make gmirror+gstripe device, every second is used to make gconcat device,
and i have what i need WITH BALANCED LOAD.
with ZFS i would have to make first 2 drives as mirror, another 6 for
unprotected storage, having LOTS of seeks on first 2 drives and very
little seeks on other 6 drives. the system would be unable to support the
load.
to say more: zfs set copies could be usable to selectively mirror given
data while not mirroring other (using unprotected storage for ZFS).
but it's broken. it writes N copies under write, but don't remake copies
in case of failure!
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> tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on my friend's machine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by Samsung. The hard drive (master) appears to have SATA interface,
> nonetheless SYSINSTALL regognizes it as ad04!
what do you expect to be recognized as? it's OK
> The text console works very slowly,
for this i have no idea.
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Em Thursday 12 June 2008 07:55:55 Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu:
> hi all,
> i have this weird log in my /var/log/messages, it keeps showing
>
> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op
> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: 128
> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128
>
> and it seems to have something to do with my flash plugin, as I kill
> npviewer, this message goes away, does anyone know why?? thanks !!
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You may be running linux_base-f8 with 7.0-RELEASE, isn't it?
linux_base-f8 uses some futex functions present only in STABLE. To get rid of
it you could update to 7-STABLE, or, as I do, just copy linux_futex.c and
linux_futex.h from CURRENT or STABLE into sys/compat/linux and rebuild your
kernel, while keep using 7.0-RELEASE.
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>> of "interesting non-essentials"? It's been a few years since bios
>> were delivered in socketed ROMs/EPROMs (readable by a standalone
>> device, independently of their own operation) or since sources were
>> typically published :)
now they are standard devices too, just not socketed, you may unsolder and
check ;)
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I had a question concerning how to, suggest a feature in freebsd. But I did
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i c, will do that, thank you!!
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Aline de Freitas <aline@riseup.net> wrote:
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> Em Thursday 12 June 2008 07:55:55 Tsu-Fan Cheng escreveu:
>> hi all,
>> i have this weird log in my /var/log/messages, it keeps showing
>>
>> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op
>> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: 128
>> Jun 12 06:53:36 kernel: linux_sys_futex: unknown op 128
>>
>> and it seems to have something to do with my flash plugin, as I kill
>> npviewer, this message goes away, does anyone know why?? thanks !!
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> You may be running linux_base-f8 with 7.0-RELEASE, isn't it?
>
> linux_base-f8 uses some futex functions present only in STABLE. To get ri=
d of
> it you could update to 7-STABLE, or, as I do, just copy linux_futex.c and
> linux_futex.h from CURRENT or STABLE into sys/compat/linux and rebuild yo=
ur
> kernel, while keep using 7.0-RELEASE.
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008 23:47:43 you wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 10:25:32PM +0200, David Naylor wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000
> > 000 from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited
> > this loss largely due to the use of spyware.
> >
> > My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to
> > attacks, including cracking and spyware.
>
> That is a very broad question without a simple answer. It depends among
> other things on the purpose of the machine and the knowledge of the
> administrator.
>
> E.g, if you are creating a workstation that doesn't run externally
> accessible servers you could configure the firewall to block all
> incoming new connection requests. That will go a long way toward
> safeguarding the machine against network attacks.
>
> There is no way to safeguard a machine that an attacker has physical
> access to; he could e.g. steal the harddisk and read your data at his
> leisure (unless it is encrypted on-disk, e.g. with geli(8)). Also, no OS
> can defend against social engineering attacks.
>
> I would not worry overly much about spyware. Most if not all of those
> are windows binaries. Also, unix mail clients as a rule do not execute
> scripts embedded in mail messages.
I think this argument is rather mute, just because there are no programs=20
exploiting security vulnerabilities does not been there are not=20
vulnerabilities, and a determined cracker would create his own program. Th=
at=20
said I hope there are, actually, no vulnerabilities. =20
[Security through obscurity is just an illusion]
> > In addition, is there anyway to
> > prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e.
> > any program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being
> > installed (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently
> > run.
>
> You could mount /home and other partitions where users have write access
> like /tmp with the noexec option. Note that that wouldn't block the
> execution of scripts, just binaries.
Excellent idea, that would work just fine :-). I think /var/tmp should be=
=20
added to the list. =20
If a script is run using #!/bin/sh would that then be executable with noexe=
c=20
(i.e. running "./example.sh" instead of "sh ./example.sh)
Thank you to everyone who has replied, it was been informative. =20
Regards
David
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On 12 Jun 2008 , Telpiz Sorin entreated about
"Installing FreeBSD":
> =A0tried several times to install 7.0-RELEASE x amd64 on=A0my
> friend's=A0machine that is eqiupped with hard drive manufactured by
> Samsung. The hard drive (master) appears to have SATA interface,
> nonetheless SYSINSTALL regognizes it as ad04! Besides, SYSINSTALL
> complains about the disk's geometry=A0. The text console works very
> slowly, though the machine=A0(ASUS motherboard) has 2 Gigs of RAM
> and=A0a=A0good GeForce video board. For comparison, my old IBM machine (
> PentiumII , 128Mb RAM , 16Mb video memory ) runs Free BSD much more
> faster. Could you help us fix the=A0trouble? Best regards and much
> thanks. sorin at margelatto@yahoo.com=A0=A0=A0=A0
I had this with my Linux box at home. The solution is to change the
CMOS setting for the drive mode to 'enhanced' (on my motherboard at
any rate). If you use the compatibility mode then the chipset maps
the SATA drives to the 'IDE' space and speed will be limited to
somewhere around PIO4 (-:
in my experience, sysinstall ALWAYS complains about geometry and I
always just leave it and it always just works. YMMV
--
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Austin Evans writes:
> I had a question concerning how to, suggest a feature in
> freebsd. But I did not know who to email, I am very new to this
> open-source feel, and was just wondering who, or where I post a
> suggestion.
One possibility:
1) Propose it here. Perhaps it's already been done and hiding
under another name; perhaps someone is currently working on it;
perhaps there are good reasons why it's never going to happen.
2) Once it's passed through the crucible, write it up as a PR -
"http://www.freebsd.org/support/bugreports.html", probably as a
Miscellaneous Non-Critical Change-Request.
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On Thursday 12 June 2008 08:07:12 tholoko wrote:
> I didn't find nothing about this card on web!!!
>
> Is there any generic driver? What's the chipset? Maybe Intel?
>
> THanks!
>
> Philippe Schottey wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just bought a dell inspiron 1525.
> > Included is a Dell=E2=84=A2 Wireless 1395 802.11b/g Mini-Card - Europe
> > Can this card be used on FreeBSD?
> > Is there a specific procedure to follow?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Philippe Schottey
Nope .. not an intel .. those cards pack a sad, sad, sad, Broadcom BCM4328=
=20
chipset ...
More info in here.
http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper
Just in case .. the best way to google up this kind of stuff is via=20
www.google.com/linux or www.google.com/bsd .. using a search criteria like=
:=20
inspiron 1525 lspci or so ..=20
Blessings
=2D-=20
Gonzalo Nemmi
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Subject: Re: Static NAT and PAT on FreeBSD 6.2
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On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:17:11 -0400 Matt Brennan <brennanma@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have continued to experiment and am still running into the same issues.
> Anyone?
>
> -Matt
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Matt Brennan <brennanma@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am running FreeBSD 6.2-release. I have been running PAT via natd
> > and ipfw for some time now and it runs great. However, I continue to
> > try and employ static NAT on this router, and as soon as I do so all
> > other clients lose routing. My natd.conf is as below:
> >
> > unregistered_only
> > use_sockets
> > log_ipfw_denied
> > redirect_address 10.100.1.2 66.92.79.20
> > alias_address 66.92.79.89
> >
> > Whenever I run with this configuration all clients except the
> > static'ed one lose routing out of the building. I have tried switching
> > the order of the alias_address and redirect_address.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > -Matt
On rereading natd(8) and my natd.conf I wondered if you mightn't need:
target_address 255.255.255.255 # unmapped go to alias_address
but expect you'd get a more useful response to this over on freebsd-net@
cheers, Ian
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Hi all,
I'm new to FreeBSD and don't have a lot of time to go digging through
archives/info to find answers, so excuse this if it's a "noob" question.
It's an emergency server build, and needs to be solid and fast.
Will FreeBSD have any problems running on the following hardware? Which
would be better FreeBSD 6.3 or 7?
Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775
Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN)
4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400)
Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM
GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a cheap
vid card)
Samsung SATA CD-ROM
Thanks in advance.
(I've been building/running x86 boxes since DOS 3.3, just haven't had need
of *nix environment yet, so I'm not total noob)
Brad Mettee
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Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller:
Model 8006-2LP
Serial # L018501C7271467
Firmware FE8S 1.05.00.068
Driver 1.50.01.002
BIOS BE7X 1.08.00.048
Monitor ME7X 1.01.00.040
Memory Installed 512 kB
# of Ports 2
# of Drives 2
# of Units 1
Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: <3ware Storage Controller. Driver
version 1.50.01.002> port 0xe800-0xe80f mem
0xfebffc00-0xfebffc0f,0xfe000000-0xfe7fffff irq 20 at device 2.0
on pci3
Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 21:38:00 gans kernel: twe0: 2 ports, Firmware FE8S 1.05.00.068,
BIOS BE7X 1.08.00.048
/var/log/messages
Jun 10 14:51:36 gans kernel: interrupt storm detected on "irq21:";
throttling interrupt source
Jun 10 14:52:07 gans last message repeated 31 times
Jun 10 14:54:08 gans last message repeated 121 times
Jun 10 15:04:09 gans last message repeated 598 times
Jun 10 15:14:10 gans last message repeated 599 times
Jun 10 15:24:11 gans last message repeated 600 times
Jun 10 15:34:12 gans last message repeated 598 times
Jun 10 15:44:13 gans last message repeated 598 times
Jun 10 15:54:14 gans last message repeated 600 times
Jun 10 16:04:15 gans last message repeated 600 times
Jun 10 16:14:16 gans last message repeated 599 times
Jun 10 16:24:17 gans last message repeated 598 times
[root@gans /home/sg]# vmstat -w 5
procs memory page disk faults cpu
r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr tw0 in sy cs us sy id
8 3 0 5389M 220M 1410 23 5 3 809 1762 0 11200 1377 3451 26 15 59
7 5 0 5505M 139M 16909 188 1 0 11025 0 81 565387 182791
30440 68 18 14
1 6 0 5468M 158M 19244 35 1 0 19469 0 42 563246 217685
7941 75 22 3
6 3 0 5276M 235M 23078 7 1 0 27426 0 135 555198 118844
73807 33 20 47
0 0 0 5177M 283M 9636 3 1 0 20972 0 108 564052 144113
6643 29 14 57
5 0 0 5176M 284M 8968 7 0 0 8607 0 22 567849 143837
6767 27 12 60
9 1 0 5199M 268M 14417 0 0 0 25905 0 31 567551 249480
6951 48 22 29
1 3 0 5341M 201M 8095 16 25 0 5087 0 112 565233 63826 6777 28 8 63
1 4 0 5356M 184M 30195 11 2 0 38720 0 95 560968 137901
52156 71 22 7
1 3 0 5266M 225M 13461 2 1 0 15518 0 46 564340 101664
9105 33 13 54
[root@gans /home/sg]# vmstat -i
interrupt total rate
irq1: atkbd0 4 0
irq16: ohci0 1 0
irq17: ohci1 ohci3 1 0
irq18: ohci2 ohci4 1 0
irq21: twe0 38629583391 101980
cpu0: timer 757587412 1999
cpu1: timer 757587403 1999
Total 40144758213 105980
I have recompiled kernel to 6.2-STABLE, 7.0-RELEASE, 7.0-RELEASE-p1,
7.0-STABLE but error persists.
System work good for some time (few days) and than vmstat -i irq20;
rate increases from 60-90 to 100000+ and than system hangs.
After reboot system work good for some time.
I have replaced sever, moved disks to another server with same
hardware (and controller), and error persists.
Kind Regards
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Brad Mettee wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to FreeBSD and don't have a lot of time to go digging through
> archives/info to find answers, so excuse this if it's a "noob"
> question. It's an emergency server build, and needs to be solid and fast.
>
> Will FreeBSD have any problems running on the following hardware?
> Which would be better FreeBSD 6.3 or 7?
>
> Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775
> Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN)
> 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400)
> Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM
> GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a
> cheap vid card)
> Samsung SATA CD-ROM
>
All these components will work. I have not tested the Geforce 7200, but
I doubt that it will give you any problems.
Pascal Clermont
> Thanks in advance.
>
> (I've been building/running x86 boxes since DOS 3.3, just haven't had
> need of *nix environment yet, so I'm not total noob)
>
> Brad Mettee
> PC HotShots, Inc.
> Baltimore, MD
> (410) 426-7617
>
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> I had a question concerning how to, suggest a feature in freebsd. But I did
> not know who to email, I am very new to this open-source feel, and was just
> wondering who, or where I post a suggestion.
You have the right mailing list, so go ahead with your question/comment.
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On Jun 4, 3:31 pm, Bill Moran <wmo...@potentialtech.com> wrote:
> In response to Nicolas Letellier <nico...@nicoelro.net>:
>
> > Hello.
>
> > I would like to know if it is possible to have anotherphp.ini forphp
> > command line? I have aphp.ini with many restrictions (open_basedir,
> > disabled functions, etc...) used byapache(and mod_php).
>
> > I would like to user anotherphp.ini file forphpcommand line (I don't
> > want to have disabled functions or safe_mode for command linephp).
>
> > I use php5 in the port tree.
> >From 'manphp':
>
> --php-ini path|file
> -c path|file Look forphp.ini file in the directory path or use the
> specified file
You can use this instruction:
http://www.witsuite.com/support/knowledge-base/manual-installation/install-php.php#configure-php-to-use-in-command-prompt
It clearly shows how to use different php.ini for Apache PHP and PHP
CLI.
You can even create a few bat files with different environment.
Regards,
Alex
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that
>> FreeBSD
>
> i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be
> in "server program" or "desktop program" whatever "desktop" means for you.
>
> there is nothing to be enhanced.
>
For example, I think the installation and local language support(I need to
read and input Chinese frequently) of ubuntu may be better than FreeBSD.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 08:50:36PM +0800, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
> >>
> >>T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB
> >>nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled),
> >>Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c
> >>Li-Ion,
> >>
> >>My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm
> >>from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling
> >>and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD. I
> >>am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
> >>another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
> >>
> >>My questions are:
> >>1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
> >>wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
> >>
> >>2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux
> >>Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many
> >>commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux
> >>binary compatibility stable enough for work ?
> >
> >It should run FreeBSD just fine. Check the hardware compatibility
> >lists to check for specific peripherals.
> >
> >The Linux compatibility layer worked well. Should be no problem.
> >
> >////jerry
> >
> >>Thanks a lot.
>
> Thank you guys.
>
> I will try to install FreeBSD on a second hard disk to have a test.
>
> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that FreeBSD
> focuses mainly on server, while Linux has improved a lot in the past a few
> years both on server and desktop. But I'm still eager to try FreeBSD on my
> notebook :P
What FreeBSD focuses on is being an Operating System - a foundation platform
for what you want to run. There are plenty of desktop utilities that
you can easily install to get the environment you wish. But, FreeBSD does
not decide for you which to use.
For example, I prefer a fairly simple desktop without a lot of extra
garbage in my way. So, I just use Afterstep. Some people seem to need
the security blanket feeling of all that extra junk.
KDE and Gnome are a couple of desktops lots of people use.
Whichever you want, they are in the ports system for easy install.
Learn to use the ports system. It makes FreeBSD very powerful as
a desktop as well as a server.
////jerry
>
>
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> Hi All,
>
> Today I read an article describing how my government had lost ZAR200 000 000
> from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The article credited this loss
> largely due to the use of spyware.
>
> My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and XFCE) to
> attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is there anyway to
> prevent a user from executing a program that is not owned by root (i.e. any
> program installed by the user), this would prevent spyware being installed
> (assuming root has been properly locked down) and subsequently run.
>
> If anyone, in addition, has answers for Linux and *BSD it would be great to
> know as well.
You might want to have a look at using a restricted shell for users.
I know bash & pdksh have a restricted mode. A quick look at the
manpages for sh & csh suggests they don't. Bash and pdksh are in
ports.
Can't tell you which is best as I haven't used either in restricted
mode.
>
> Best Regards
>
> David
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On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 13:37 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> for example you can't select per file (or at least - per
> pseudo-filesystem) if you want no protection, mirrored or raidz.
Isn't it a pity that the fbsd implementation of ZFS lacks such a
feature. Your anti stories of ZFS often show these aspects.
Almost none of your comments on zfs are valid in Solaris.
But hey, what the heck, use what you want. I don't write for SUN, I use
ZFS on all systems and it never disappointed me. It's blazingly fast,
very flexible, configurable. Stripes, mirrors, it's all so easy.
It will be even better in time.
Conclusion: Wojciech Puchar is against zfs. so what. I belong to the
pro's fwiw.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>
> J. Porter Clark wrote:
> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it?
> | If so, how?
>
> Yes, Section 2.2 of
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html
Well, no, because I can't do this:
# dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k
If I do this:
% cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full
then try to boot the machine from the CD-R, I get a "-" cursor
for a second or two, then it switches over to the hard disks to
boot from.
Okay, it's possible I messed up the compilation options or
something. Is the cdrecord command above the correct procedure
to use to build a bootable nanobsd CD-R?
--
J. Porter Clark <jpc@porterclark.com>
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Subject: Re: new hardware - compatible?
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Brad Mettee wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to FreeBSD and don't have a lot of time to go digging through
> archives/info to find answers, so excuse this if it's a "noob"
> question. It's an emergency server build, and needs to be solid and fast.
>
> Will FreeBSD have any problems running on the following hardware?
> Which would be better FreeBSD 6.3 or 7?
>
> Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775
> Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN)
> 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400)
> Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM
> GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a
> cheap vid card)
> Samsung SATA CD-ROM
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> (I've been building/running x86 boxes since DOS 3.3, just haven't had
> need of *nix environment yet, so I'm not total noob)
>
>
If you are a total "noob" as you put it, you will have to put
considerable amounts of time into this, understanding basic UNIX /
FreeBSD concepts and such. May I suggest you start reading the handbook
right away:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook
Concerning the compatibility of your hardware, read the release notes:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/hardware.html
(I suggest you go with FreeBSD 7 unless there is any specific reason not to)
The specs seem ok to me. The graphics card is unimportant for a server
(nvidia cards work OK in general) and according to the specs you have a
Marvel LAN supported by the msk(4) driver. It should work fine. To use
your 4Gb RAM efficiently, go with the 64bit version of FreeBSD (known as
"amd64")
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Hi,
I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are
three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware
notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an
Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel
card. Any suggestions?
%cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm
pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem
0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on
pci0
pcm0: [ITHREAD]
pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec>
Thanks,
Joey
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Do a lookup on what pciconf -lv says...then do a search on Google to find the chipset driver.
"Bono Vince Malum"
------------
-Camilo
> I didn't find nothing about this card on web!!!
>
> Is there any generic driver? What's the chipset? Maybe
> Intel?
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Hi,
I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are
three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware
notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an
Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel
card. Any suggestions?
%cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm
pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem
0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on
pci0
pcm0: [ITHREAD]
pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec>
Thanks,
Joey
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>> pseudo-filesystem) if you want no protection, mirrored or raidz.
>
> Isn't it a pity that the fbsd implementation of ZFS lacks such a
> feature. Your anti stories of ZFS often show these aspects.
> Almost none of your comments on zfs are valid in Solaris.
AFAIK on solaris set copies= and what i told before is the same. am i
wrong?
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On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:35:39 -0400
Brad Mettee <bmettee@pchotshots.com> wrote:
> Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775
> Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN)
> 4G Kingston DDR 2 RAM (PC2 6400)
> Seagate 500G, SATA 2, 7200RPM
> GeForce 7200GS 128MB 32-bit GDDR2 PCI-E x16 Video Card (basically a
> cheap vid card)
> Samsung SATA CD-ROM
One important note may be that you will probably want to use the 64-bit
version of FreeBSD (called AMD64) to use all that RAM. However, as far
as I know, the proprietary nvidia drivers will not work in 64-bit mode.
Since you don't seem to be aiming at massive graphics performance,
perhaps the open source drivers will suffice?
/ Robert
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On Thu 2008-06-12 12:28:06 UTC-0300, Joey Mingrone (joey@mingrone.org) wrote:
> I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are
> three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware
> notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an
> Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel
> card. Any suggestions?
I think the idea is to look at /dev/sndstat:
DING! ozzmosis@blizzard [~]cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Intel ICH2 (82801BA)> at io 0xd800, 0xdc40 irq 10 bufsz 16384 kld snd_ich (1p/1r/1v channels duplex default)
2:00 ozzmosis@blizzard [~]grep snd_ich /boot/loader.conf
snd_ich_load="YES"
> %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm
> pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem
> 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on
> pci0
> pcm0: [ITHREAD]
> pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec>
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On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:19 AM, David Naylor wrote:
> I think this argument is rather mute, just because there are no
> programs
> exploiting security vulnerabilities does not been there are not
> vulnerabilities,
But it is far from moot if you are interested in the actual threat
against your system. In a sense, using a less popular OS is a form of
"security by obscurity" which is not to be heavily relied on, but
still it does make a real, practical, difference in the case that you
described.
> and a determined cracker would create his own program.
You have not articulated what you are trying to defend against. Do
you anticipate determined crackers going after your particular system
and what resources will such attackers have? We can't talk about a
system being "secure" in general, but the question needs to be framed
in terms of "secure against what".
> That said I hope there are, actually, no vulnerabilities.
That is demanding too much. What you need to hope for is a
combination of "no known unpatched vulnerabilities at the moment" and
more importantly "procedures and practices to keep things that way".
As Bruce Schneier likes to say, "Security is not a product but a
process". The vast majority of actual system compromises involve
failure of system administrators to keep systems patched and follow
good security practices.
One reason that I switched from Linux to FreeBSD is that I find it
much easier to maintain FreeBSD, particularly in terms of security
updates. I have been responsible for Linux machines that did get
rooted because I was having problems keeping them up-to-date for a
variety of reasons.
> [Security through obscurity is just an illusion]
In your post you mentioned concern about spyware. It is not an
illusion that FreeBSD has not been targeted by spyware writers while
Windows has. Even if some of that is the consequence of security by
obscurity, it is no illusion. Of course we need to understand that
those security benefits from obscurity are fragile, but we shouldn't
dismiss it entirely.
Again, what sorts of benefits such things may add (or subtract)
depends on the nature of the attacker.
Cheers,
-j
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| On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
|> J. Porter Clark wrote:
|> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it?
|> | If so, how?
|>
|> Yes, Section 2.2 of
|>
|> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html
|
| Well, no, because I can't do this:
|
| # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k
|
| If I do this:
|
| % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full
Try with burncd
| burncd -f /dev/acd0 data _.disk.full fixate
|
| then try to boot the machine from the CD-R, I get a "-" cursor
| for a second or two, then it switches over to the hard disks to
| boot from.
|
| Okay, it's possible I messed up the compilation options or
| something. Is the cdrecord command above the correct procedure
| to use to build a bootable nanobsd CD-R?
|
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Joey Mingrone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are
> three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware
> notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an
> Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel
> card. Any suggestions?
>
>
> %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm
> pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem
> 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on
> pci0
> pcm0: [ITHREAD]
> pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec>
>
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
Especially:
If you are not sure which driver to use, you may try to load the
snd_driver module:
# kldload snd_driver
This is a metadriver loading the most common device drivers at once.
This speeds up the search for the correct driver.
Peter
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> Intel Quad Core Extreme 3Ghz, LGA775
> Asus P5K-E Motherboard (P35 chipset, Onboard LAN)
I have the same motherboard, and it runs great on 7.0-RELEASE (amd64).
I do not, however, use the onboard ethernet controller. I use a pair
of em cards, so I can't speak to the Marvell Gigabit chipset and
whether it works or not. The onboard ethernet on the Asus P5B is an
re, and works fine in 7-STABLE.
I also recently put a SATA DVD-RW into this box, which works well with
atapicam (for cdrecord/growisofs), but it doesn't work with burncd.
Not a huge deal, but just an FYI.
Here is my dmesg and pciconf -l -v output. Note that the ICH9
controller shows up as "Intel AHCI controller", but it works great
(full performance).
Thanks,
Josh
dmesg:
Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Tue Mar 25 22:23:29 EDT 2008
root@pflog.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PFLOG
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (3204.04-MHz K8-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6fb Stepping = 11
Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
Features2=0xe3bd<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM>
AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
Cores per package: 4
usable memory = 4286599168 (4088 MB)
avail memory = 4125327360 (3934 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <A_M_I_ OEMAPIC >
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0
cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1
cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 2
cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 3
ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
netsmb_dev: loaded
acpi0: <A_M_I_ OEMXSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 100000, cff00000 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_hpet0: <High Precision Event Timer> iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0
Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
ACPI Warning (tbutils-0243): Incorrect checksum in table [OEMB] - 8C,
should be 84 [20070320]
coretemp0: <CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors> on cpu0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
coretemp1: <CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors> on cpu1
cpu2: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
coretemp2: <CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors> on cpu2
cpu3: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
coretemp3: <CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors> on cpu3
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> mem
0xfd000000-0xfdffffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xfc000000-0xfcffffff irq
16 at device 0.0 on pci1
uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 16 at
device 26.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci0: [ITHREAD]
usb0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xc880-0xc89f irq 21 at
device 26.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci1: [ITHREAD]
usb1: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 18 at
device 26.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci2: [ITHREAD]
usb2: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb2
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xfbfffc00-0xfbffffff
irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci0: [ITHREAD]
usb3: EHCI version 1.0
usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2
usb3: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci0
usb3: USB revision 2.0
uhub3: <Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb3
uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
atapci0: <JMicron JMB363 SATA300 controller> port
0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f
mem 0xfeafe000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2
atapci0: [ITHREAD]
atapci0: AHCI called from vendor specific driver
atapci0: AHCI Version 01.00 controller with 2 ports detected
ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci0
ata4: [ITHREAD]
uhci3: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xc080-0xc09f irq 23 at
device 29.0 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci3: [ITHREAD]
usb4: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci3
usb4: USB revision 1.0
uhub4: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb4
uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci4: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 19 at
device 29.1 on pci0
uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci4: [ITHREAD]
usb5: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci4
usb5: USB revision 1.0
uhub5: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb5
uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci5: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xc480-0xc49f irq 18 at
device 29.2 on pci0
uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED]
uhci5: [ITHREAD]
usb6: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci5
usb6: USB revision 1.0
uhub6: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb6
uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci1: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> mem 0xfbfff800-0xfbfffbff
irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
ehci1: [ITHREAD]
usb7: EHCI version 1.0
usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6
usb7: <EHCI (generic) USB 2.0 controller> on ehci1
usb7: USB revision 2.0
uhub7: <Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb7
uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.3> port
0xec00-0xec3f mem 0xfebe0000-0xfebfffff,0xfebc0000-0xfebdffff irq 17
at device 1.0 on pci4
em0: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:6c:b9:16
em0: [FILTER]
em1: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.3> port
0xe880-0xe8bf mem 0xfeb80000-0xfeb9ffff,0xfeb60000-0xfeb7ffff irq 18
at device 2.0 on pci4
em1: Ethernet address: 00:0e:0c:6c:b9:0a
em1: [FILTER]
fwohci0: <Lucent FW322/323> mem 0xfeb3f000-0xfeb3ffff irq 19 at device
3.0 on pci4
fwohci0: [FILTER]
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 8.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:11:d8:00:01:87:6f:c6
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
sbp0: <SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire> on firewire0
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci1: <Intel AHCI controller> port
0xbc00-0xbc07,0xb880-0xb883,0xb800-0xb807,0xb480-0xb483,0xb400-0xb41f
mem 0xfbffe800-0xfbffefff irq 22 at device 31.2 on pci0
atapci1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1: AHCI Version 01.20 controller with 6 ports detected
ata5: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
ata5: [ITHREAD]
ata6: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
ata6: [ITHREAD]
ata7: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
ata7: [ITHREAD]
ata8: <ATA channel 3> on atapci1
ata8: [ITHREAD]
ata9: <ATA channel 4> on atapci1
ata9: [ITHREAD]
ata10: <ATA channel 5> on atapci1
ata10: [ITHREAD]
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq
2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FILTER]
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem
0xcf000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xd1000-0xd3fff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
ugen0: <APC Back-UPS ES 550 FW:840.B2.D USB FW:B2, class 0/0, rev
1.10/1.06, addr 2> on uhub5
ums0: <Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM), class
0/0, rev 1.10/3.00, addr 2> on uhub6
ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
ad10: 476940MB <WDC WD5000AAKS-07TMA0 12.01C01> at ata5-master SATA300
ad12: 476940MB <WDC WD5000AAKS-00YGA0 12.01C02> at ata6-master SATA300
ad14: 381553MB <Seagate ST3400633AS 3.AAH> at ata7-master SATA150
acd0: DVDR <TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B/SB02> at ata9-master SATA150
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad12s1 is label/video.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad14s1 is label/backup.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1a is label/slash.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1b is label/swap.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1d is label/tmp.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad10s1e is label/var.
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - INQUIRY ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
cd0 at ata7 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B SB02> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers
cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not
present - tray closed
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/label/slash
pciconf:
hostb0@pci0:0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x82951043 chip=0x29c08086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '(Bearlake) Processor to I/O Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
pcib1@pci0:0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x82951043 chip=0x29c18086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '(Bearlake) PCIe Root Port'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
uhci0@pci0:0:26:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29378086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci1@pci0:0:26:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29388086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci2@pci0:0:26:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29398086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
ehci0@pci0:0:26:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x82771043 chip=0x293c8086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
pcib2@pci0:0:28:0: class=0x060400 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29408086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 1'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
pcib3@pci0:0:28:4: class=0x060400 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29488086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) PCIe Root Port 5'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
uhci3@pci0:0:29:0: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29348086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci4@pci0:0:29:1: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29358086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
uhci5@pci0:0:29:2: class=0x0c0300 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29368086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB Universal Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
ehci1@pci0:0:29:7: class=0x0c0320 card=0x82771043 chip=0x293a8086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) USB2 Enhanced Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
pcib4@pci0:0:30:0: class=0x060401 card=0x82771043 chip=0x244e8086
rev=0x92 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801 Family (ICH2/3/4/4/5/5/6/7/8/9,63xxESB) Hub
Interface to PCI Bridge'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
isab0@pci0:0:31:0: class=0x060100 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29168086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IR (ICH9R) LPC Interface Controller'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-ISA
atapci1@pci0:0:31:2: class=0x010601 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29228086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) 6 port SATA AHCI Controller'
class = mass storage
none0@pci0:0:31:3: class=0x0c0500 card=0x82771043 chip=0x29308086
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82801IB/IR/IH (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = SMBus
vgapci0@pci0:1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x016310de
rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Nvidia Corp'
device = 'GeForce 6200 LE'
class = display
subclass = VGA
atapci0@pci0:2:0:0: class=0x010185 card=0x824f1043 chip=0x2363197b
rev=0x03 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'JMicron Technology Corp'
device = 'JMB36X PCIe-to-SATA-300/IDE RAID Controller'
class = mass storage
subclass = ATA
em0@pci0:4:1:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11768086 chip=0x10768086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
class = network
subclass = ethernet
em1@pci0:4:2:0: class=0x020000 card=0x11768086 chip=0x10768086 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82541EI Gigabit Ethernet Controller'
class = network
subclass = ethernet
fwohci0@pci0:4:3:0: class=0x0c0010 card=0x82941043 chip=0x581111c1
rev=0x70 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Lucent/Agere Systems (Was: AT&T MicroElectronics)'
device = 'FW322 1394A PCI PHY/Link Open Host Ctrlr I/F'
class = serial bus
subclass = FireWire
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Joey,
More than likely snd_ich but best bet is to:
kldunload snd_driver
kldload snd_ich
dmesg
if pcm0 doesn't load then:
kldload snd_hda
Jeff
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are
> three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware
> notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an
> Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel
> card. Any suggestions?
>
>
> %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm
> pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem
> 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on
> pci0
> pcm0: [ITHREAD]
> pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joey
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On Jun 12, 5:24 pm, AlexW474 <alex.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 3:31 pm, Bill Moran <wmo...@potentialtech.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > In response to Nicolas Letellier <nico...@nicoelro.net>:
>
> > > Hello.
>
> > > I would like to know if it is possible to have anotherphp.ini forphp
> > > command line? I have aphp.ini with many restrictions (open_basedir,
> > > disabled functions, etc...) used byapache(and mod_php).
>
> > > I would like to user anotherphp.ini file forphpcommand line (I don't
> > > want to have disabled functions or safe_mode for command linephp).
>
> > > I use php5 in the port tree.
> > >From 'manphp':
>
> > --php-ini path|file
> > -c path|file Look forphp.ini file in the directory path or use the
> > specified file
>
> You can use this instruction:http://www.witsuite.com/support/knowledge-base/manual-installation/in...
>
> It clearly shows how to use differentphp.ini forApachePHPandPHP
> CLI.
> You can even create a few bat files with different environment.
BTW, this instruction is for Windows, but the approach is suitable for
FreeBSD as well.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
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I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with
FreeBSD 7-STABLE. On startup neither of the Nics attach to the kernel.
They give up with an error message of:
"Setup of shared code failed"
I hunted around on Google for this last night and found something
about the cards working okay so long as I turned off BSM but I
couldn't find any reference to what BSM was or how to turn it off.
I'd like to get this card working in my FreeBSD box. Any help would be
appreciated.
-- Chris
Below is the uname -a and startup log from the server.
$ uname -a
FreeBSD hoth.vindaloo.com 7.0-STABLE FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Wed May 28
16:20:00 EDT 2008 root@hoth:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
Here's the logs from the server.
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD
Project.
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986,
1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: The Regents of the University of
California. All rights reserved.
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The
FreeBSD Foundation.
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #2: Wed May 28
16:20:00 EDT 2008
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: root@hoth:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz
quality 0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: CPU: AMD Duron(tm) Processor (908.09-MHz
686-class CPU)
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x631
Stepping = 1
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel:
Features
=
0x183f9ff
<
FPU
,VME
,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: AMD Features=0xc0440800<SYSCALL,<b18>,MMX
+,3DNow!+,3DNow!>
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: real memory = 1073659904 (1023 MB)
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: avail memory = 1037058048 (989 MB)
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: kbd1 at kbdmux0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211,
AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413)
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: <ASUS A7V-E> on motherboard
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3ff00000
(3) failed
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545
Hz quality 1000
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at
3.579545MHz> port 0xe408-0xe40b on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on
cpu0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port
0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: agp0: <VIA 82C8363 (Apollo KT133x/KM133)
host to PCI bridge> on hostb0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: agp0: aperture size is 256M
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device
1.0 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port
0xd800-0xd8ff mem 0xfa000000-0xfaffffff,0xf9800000-0xf9800fff irq 11
at device 0.0 on pci1
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on
pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atapci0: <VIA 82C686B UDMA100 controller>
port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xb800-0xb80f at device 7.1
on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ata1: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port
0xb400-0xb41f irq 5 at device 7.2 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb0: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb0: USB revision 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub0: <VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
powered
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> port
0xb000-0xb01f irq 5 at device 7.3 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhci1: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb1: <VIA 83C572 USB controller> on uhci1
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb1: USB revision 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub1: <VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb1
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
powered
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci0: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> mem
0xf9000000-0xf9000fff irq 5 at device 12.0 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb2: OHCI version 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb2: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> on
ohci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb2: USB revision 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub2: <NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb2
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub2: 3 ports with 3 removable, self
powered
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci1: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> mem
0xf8800000-0xf8800fff irq 11 at device 12.1 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ohci1: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb3: OHCI version 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb3: <NEC uPD 9210 USB controller> on
ohci1
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb3: USB revision 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub3: <NEC OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb3
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self
powered
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ehci0: <NEC uPD 720100 USB 2.0
controller> mem 0xf8000000-0xf80000ff irq 10 at device 12.2 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ehci0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: EHCI version 1.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: companion controllers, 3 ports
each: usb2 usb3
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: <NEC uPD 720100 USB 2.0 controller>
on ehci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: usb4: USB revision 2.0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub4: <NEC EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev
2.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb4
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: uhub4: 5 ports with 5 removable, self
powered
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: <Mylex version 2 RAID interface>
port 0x9400-0x947f mem 0xf7800000-0xf780007f irq 11 at device 13.0 on
pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlx0: DAC960PL, 2 channels, firmware
2.73-0-00, 4MB RAM
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlxd0: <Mylex System Drive> on mlx0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: mlxd0: 26049MB (53348352 sectors) RAID 5
(online)
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ahc0: <Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter> port
0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xf7000000-0xf7000fff irq 10 at device 14.0 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ahc0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: aic7870: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7,
16/253 SCBs
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network
Connection 6.9.5> port 0x8800-0x883f irq 7 at device 15.0 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em0: Setup of Shared code failed
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: device_attach: em0 attach returned 6
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em1: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network
Connection 6.9.5> port 0x8400-0x843f irq 5 at device 15.1 on pci0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: em1: Setup of Shared code failed
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: device_attach: em1 attach returned 6
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port
0x3f2-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: fdc0: [FILTER]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port
0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio0: type 16550A
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio0: [FILTER]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port
0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio1: type 16550A
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sio1: [FILTER]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)>
port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: kbd0 at atkbd0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: [ITHREAD]
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: pmtimer0 on isa0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem
0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc87ff,0xcc000-0xcc7ff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ppc0: parallel port not found.
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on
isa0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port
0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 908091823 Hz
quality 800
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to
settle
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: ad0: 38166MB <WDC WD400BB-00GFA0
09.01B09> at ata0-master UDMA100
Jun 11 22:41:22 hoth kernel: Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a
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I'm running a Fileserver on a now ancient Asus A7V-E box. Until last
week this box ran FreeBSD 6.2 and it worked okay. Now it runs 7.0-
STABLE. Before last night I had a pair of PCI Dec Tulip Nics in it.
I've since replaced that with a Dual Intel Pro/100 (yes, 100, not 1000
if you saw my other post). My problem is with ACPI.
When I boot the box with ACPI enabled it cannot allocate all the
resources needed for both tulip nics.
When I boot the box without ACPI, it can allocate the resources to
make everything work but I cannot reboot or shutdown the box.
I'd like some suggestions about how I can either tune the box so that
the shutdown commands work right with ACPI enabled.
I'd accept some suggestions about how to get the box to properly
allocate resources with ACPI disabled.
Currently the box works because I've reduced the resources by using a
Dual Nic but if the time comes that I have to add some other resources
I'd like to have some options.
-- Chris
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What precautions could I take to prevent users from writing to a portion
of a ZFS mount point that might fill up the underlying filesystem that
wouldn't impede writes to that ZFS mount point. For example:
/foo/bar/volume
If some program accidentally started writing to /foo/bar, as far as I
understand, it would end up filling / and not the zpool.
I could re-do this so that /zpool1 was /foo to mitigate this - though
I've already established production mounts pointing to /foo/bar/volume
(which is actually zpool1/volume). Would changing zpool1 to /dce create
havoc, since I'm NFS exporting /foo/bar/volume.
Thanks.
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> But it is far from moot if you are interested in the actual threat against
> your system. In a sense, using a less popular OS is a form of "security by
> obscurity" which is not to be heavily relied on, but still it does make a
> real, practical, difference in the case that you described.
FreeBSD is "unfortunately" quite popular OS, but yes - much less popular
than linux, not to mention windoze.
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund <tl32@next.online.no> wrote:
> Novembre wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
> > subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
> time
> > to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
> > since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
> > person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
> > other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?
>
> Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to
> newsgroups. I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I
> am subscribed to the list. (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as
> e-mail.) When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my
> answer is then threaded properly.
> --
> Tore
>
>
I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I subscribe to the
newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer the question in the
newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in the freebsd mailing lists as
well? I mean, is the mirroring one way or both-ways?
Thanks :)
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>
> So to be more specific, how can I answer to a post from a mailing list
>> from
>> within my, e.g., GMail or Yahoo! mailboxes?
>>
>
> You might be able to use telnet to open a connection to Google's SMTP
> servers, and paste the entire message, headers included, into the
> transmission. You'd have to know how to manually use SMTP and hope that
> Google accepts email from your machine. You could also look into writing a
> script in (Perl or Python would be good) to allow you to do it yourself, so
> you would have control over most of the headers.
>
> --Andrew
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> On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund <tl32@next.online.no> wrote:
>
>> Novembre wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is there any way to answer the posts in the mailing lists if one is not
>>> subscribed to the list and does not receive them in his mailbox? From
>> time
>>> to time, I see posts which I can actually answer and contribute to, but
>>> since I'm not subscribed to the lists, even if I post an answer to the
>>> person asking the question and CC it to the list, it doesn't regroup with
>>> other posts on the same topic. Is there any way around this?
>> Besides what Randy wrote, several mailing lists are mirrored to
>> newsgroups. I subscribe to muc.lists.freebsd.questions, even though I
>> am subscribed to the list. (I prefer not to receive all that stuff as
>> e-mail.) When answering a post, I have to edit the addresses, but my
>> answer is then threaded properly.
>> --
>> Tore
>
> I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I subscribe to the
> newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer the question in the
> newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in the freebsd mailing lists as
> well? I mean, is the mirroring one way or both-ways?
The mirroring is one-way only. What I do in Thunderbird is to hit
"Reply to All", delete the address lines beginning with "muc*" and add
the address line "To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org".
I believe you said you were using a browser, so I don't know if what I
describe can be done through some web site. But it works fine for me in
Thunderbird, and it will probably work fine in any other newsreader.
--
Tore
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On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> If your data files are small enough to fit into 2GB of address space,
> try using mmap() and then treat the file(s) as an array of records or
> memoblocks or whatever, and let the VM system deal with paging in the
> parts of the file you need. Otherwise, don't fread() 1 record at a
> time, read in at least a (VM page / sizeof(record)) number of records
> at a time into a bigger buffer, and then process that in RAM rather
> than trying to fseek in little increments.
During a marathon session last night, I did just that. I changed the seque=
ntial reads=20
in the "outer" file to fread many records at a time. Then I switched to mm=
ap() for the=20
random-access file. The results were much better, with good CPU usage and =
only 3 times=20
the wall clock runtime:
kirk@linux$ date; time /tmp/cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf >/dev/null; date
Thu Jun 12 13:56:49 CDT 2008
/tmp/cdbf /tmp/invoice.dbf > /dev/null 29.00s user 11.16s system 56% cpu 1=
:11.03 total
Thu Jun 12 13:58:00 CDT 2008
kirk@freebsd$ date; time /tmp/cdbf ~pgsql/data/frodumps/xbase/invoice.dbf i=
nvid ln=20
>/dev/null; date
Thu Jun 12 14:10:57 CDT 2008
/tmp/cdbf ~pgsql/data/frodumps/xbase/invoice.dbf invid ln > /dev/null 38.1=
4s user=20
6.21s system 23% cpu 3:05.13 total
Thu Jun 12 14:14:02 CDT 2008
> Also, if you're malloc'ing and freeing buf & memohead with every
> iteration of the loop, you're just thrashing the malloc system;
> instead, allocate your buffers once before the loop, and reuse them
> (zeroize or copy new data over the previous results) instead.
Also done. I'd gotten some technical advice from Slashdot (which speaks vo=
lumes for my=20
clueless, granted) that made it sound like a good idea. I changed almost a=
ll the=20
mallocs into static buffers.
I'm still offering that shell account to anyone who wants to take a peek. =
:-)
=2D-=20
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I have an smbfs share that mounts at boot time on a 6.3-STABLE system.
I want to rsync from a FreeBSD directory to the Windows share. For
reasons I seem to not be able to discover, rsync insists on copying
every file, every time. The exact command is:
rsync -va /FreeBSD-dir-tree /windows-mount
I have tried -O -no-p without success.
I'm guessing this is a problem mapping the filesystem semantics from
FreeBSD to SMB so that rsync always thinks the files on the
destination SMB share are out of date, but I cannot seem to find the
right magic to overcome this.
Ideas? (And TIA),
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Tim Daneliuk wrote:
> I have an smbfs share that mounts at boot time on a 6.3-STABLE system.
> I want to rsync from a FreeBSD directory to the Windows share. For
> reasons I seem to not be able to discover, rsync insists on copying
> every file, every time. The exact command is:
>
> rsync -va /FreeBSD-dir-tree /windows-mount
>
> I have tried -O -no-p without success.
>
> I'm guessing this is a problem mapping the filesystem semantics from
> FreeBSD to SMB so that rsync always thinks the files on the
> destination SMB share are out of date, but I cannot seem to find the
> right magic to overcome this.
>
>
> Ideas? (And TIA),
Inevitably, as soon as I posted this, I finally discovered the problem,
which is worth describing here to save other people the same suffering:
1) The problem occurs when the SMB mount is a FAT formatted drive.
In this case, it was a USB drive plugged into the WinXP machine
being used as removable backup medium.
2) The problem occurs because the FAT file entry has insufficient
resolution to maintain exactly the same timestamp as FreeBSD.
i.e., FreeBSD (and I presume Linux or other Unix variants) have
a finer timestamp resolution than does FAT.
3) The fix is to tell rsync to not be so fussy about exact timestamp
matches:
rsync -va --modify-window=1 src dest
4) This assumes that the FreeBSD server and the Windows machine
hosting the share are more-or-less synchronized to the correct
absolute time. If they are not, the --modify-window= parameter
may have to be larger to accommodate the difference in what each
machine thinks the "correct time" is.
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> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with
> FreeBSD 7-STABLE.
I'm using this on
FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386
with no problems.
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On Thursday 12 June 2008 18:43:40 you wrote:
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:19 AM, David Naylor wrote:
> > I think this argument is rather mute, just because there are no
> > programs
> > exploiting security vulnerabilities does not been there are not
> > vulnerabilities,
>
> But it is far from moot if you are interested in the actual threat
> against your system. In a sense, using a less popular OS is a form of
> "security by obscurity" which is not to be heavily relied on, but
> still it does make a real, practical, difference in the case that you
> described.
Very true, however having a large scale usage of FreeBSD (for example, if a=
=20
government were to adopt it) would bring pressure to bare. For anything bu=
t=20
such a large scale adoption in the medium to long term then it is a=20
valuable 'asset'. =20
> > and a determined cracker would create his own program.
>
> You have not articulated what you are trying to defend against. Do
> you anticipate determined crackers going after your particular system
> and what resources will such attackers have? We can't talk about a
> system being "secure" in general, but the question needs to be framed
> in terms of "secure against what".
This is a general enquiry. What had sparked my interest in this subject is=
=20
the above mentioned article. In this case it is a workstation used to acce=
ss=20
and manage account and cash flows. The threat would be anyone gaining acce=
ss=20
to 'divert' funds to incorrect accounts, for obvious personal gains. =20
Specifically, the two threats would be remote attach (such as spyware being=
=20
deployed, or gaining remote access) or physical access (in which case keepi=
ng=20
the username and password safe will be the only option? Assuming their is =
no=20
compromise on the human side)
> > That said I hope there are, actually, no vulnerabilities.
>
> That is demanding too much. What you need to hope for is a
> combination of "no known unpatched vulnerabilities at the moment" and
> more importantly "procedures and practices to keep things that way".
> As Bruce Schneier likes to say, "Security is not a product but a
> process". The vast majority of actual system compromises involve
> failure of system administrators to keep systems patched and follow
> good security practices.
Good point! Thank goodness for automatic signed incremental updates (that=
=20
actually work)
Leason: always keep your system up-to-date! (With security patches)
> One reason that I switched from Linux to FreeBSD is that I find it
> much easier to maintain FreeBSD, particularly in terms of security
> updates. I have been responsible for Linux machines that did get
> rooted because I was having problems keeping them up-to-date for a
> variety of reasons.
>
> > [Security through obscurity is just an illusion]
>
> In your post you mentioned concern about spyware. It is not an
> illusion that FreeBSD has not been targeted by spyware writers while
> Windows has. Even if some of that is the consequence of security by
> obscurity, it is no illusion. Of course we need to understand that
> those security benefits from obscurity are fragile, but we shouldn't
> dismiss it entirely.
Point taken. =20
> Again, what sorts of benefits such things may add (or subtract)
> depends on the nature of the attacker.
Thank you for your feedback
David
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Can I upgrade a system from 6.2 to 6.3 by changing the
*default tag=RELENG_6_2
line in my cvs-supfile to
*default tag=RELENG_6_3
Then, I just do the usual remaking of the world and
kernel.
I don't know if I missed it, but I did not even find the
word 'upgrade' in the handbook table of contents.
I have a string of 6.2 systems that need to be 6.3 and
can't be down for much more than the reboot time.
#*default tag=.
*default tag=RELENG_6_2
*default host=cvsup15.us.freebsd.org
*default prefix=/usr
*default base=/var/db
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix
src-all
Thsnks.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
>
> Christopher Sean Hilton writes:
>> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with
>> FreeBSD 7-STABLE.
>
> I'm using this on
>
> FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386
>
>
> with no problems.
>
Sounds cool. I had one going in an older laptop as early as 5.x-STABLE
I'm pretty sure it's strongly supported by FreeBSD. Did you have to do
anything special to get it going?
-- Chris
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Subject: Re: Intel Dual PRO/1000 Nic - Setup of shared code failed
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Christopher Sean Hilton writes:
> >> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with
> >> FreeBSD 7-STABLE.
> >
> > I'm using this on
> >
> > FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386
> >
> >
> > with no problems.
>
> Sounds cool. I had one going in an older laptop as early as 5.x-STABLE
> I'm pretty sure it's strongly supported by FreeBSD.
Actually, the code is cotributed/maintained by Intel.
> Did you have to do anything special to get it going?
huff@>> more /boot/loader.conf | grep _em
if_em_load="YES"
Your mileage may vary.
Robert Huff
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hope to be in the right place, I'm seeking help join a FreeBSD 6.2 machine
to a ADS Windows 2008.
when I execute "net ads join -U Administrator" I get a
"/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.8: Undefined symbol
"init_error_table" error message.
[global]
dos charset = cp866
unix charset = koi8-r
display charset = koi8-r
workgroup = LAB
realm = LAB.NET
server string = SambaServer
security = ADS
password server = SAFAD.LAB.NET
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 50
socket options = SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
logon script = %U.bat
logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U
os level = 33
preferred master = No
local master = No
domain master = No
dns proxy = No
wins server = safad.lab.net
idmap uid = 600-20000
winbind separator = /
winbind enum users = Yes
winbind enum groups = Yes
winbind use default domain = Yes
inherit acls = Yes
map acl inherit = Yes
map archive = No
store dos attributes = Yes
this is my global configuration,
Thanks,
Augustin,
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On Thursday 12 June 2008, Martin McCormick wrote:
> Can I upgrade a system from 6.2 to 6.3 by changing the
>
> *default tag=3DRELENG_6_2
> line in my cvs-supfile to
> *default tag=3DRELENG_6_3
>
> Then, I just do the usual remaking of the world and
> kernel.
Yep! Be sure to check in /usr/src/UPDATING to see if there are any special=
=20
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=2D-=20
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At 03:36 PM 6/12/2008, white list wrote:
>hope to be in the right place, I'm seeking help join a FreeBSD 6.2 machine
>to a ADS Windows 2008.
>when I execute "net ads join -U Administrator" I get a
>"/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libkrb5.so.8: Undefined symbol
>"init_error_table" error message.
>
>[global]
> dos charset = cp866
> unix charset = koi8-r
> display charset = koi8-r
> workgroup = LAB
> realm = LAB.NET
> server string = SambaServer
> security = ADS
> password server = SAFAD.LAB.NET
> log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
> max log size = 50
> socket options = SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
> logon script = %U.bat
> logon path = \\%L\Profiles\%U
> os level = 33
> preferred master = No
> local master = No
> domain master = No
> dns proxy = No
> wins server = safad.lab.net
> idmap uid = 600-20000
> winbind separator = /
> winbind enum users = Yes
> winbind enum groups = Yes
> winbind use default domain = Yes
> inherit acls = Yes
> map acl inherit = Yes
> map archive = No
> store dos attributes = Yes
>
>this is my global configuration,
>Thanks,
>Augustin,
>_________
I believe this is an upgraded FreeBSD system, You need to rebuild samba so
it is linked to the correct libraries.
-Derek
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In addition, here are the contents of my /etc/ntp.conf file:
server 0.us.pool.ntp.org
server 1.us.pool.ntp.org
server 2.us.pool.ntp.org
server 3.us.pool.ntp.org
restrict default kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery
I'm running FreeBSD 7.0, and I have 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in my /etc/rc.conf.
> Every time I reboot my server, I get two ntpd processes:
>
> nlandys@daffy# ps -U root | grep ntpd
> PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND
> 571 ?? Ss 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
> /var/run/ntpd.pid
> 686 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
> /var/run/ntpd.pid
>
> When I run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd stop' it kills the first process in the output
> above but leaves the second one. I must manually kill this second process
> and then run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd start' to get ntpd to function normally,
> otherwise [while there are 2 processes running] ntpd does not seem to keep
> the clock in sync. Please help.
>
>
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I'm running FreeBSD 7.0, and I have 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in my /etc/rc.conf.
Every time I reboot my server, I get two ntpd processes:
nlandys@daffy# ps -U root | grep ntpd
PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND
571 ?? Ss 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
/var/run/ntpd.pid
686 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
/var/run/ntpd.pid
When I run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd stop' it kills the first process in the output
above but leaves the second one. I must manually kill this second process
and then run '/etc/rc.d/ntpd start' to get ntpd to function normally,
otherwise [while there are 2 processes running] ntpd does not seem to keep
the clock in sync. Please help.
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Thank you all for your replies. It was snd_ich.
And sorry for the double post to the list. Despite having the list
option "Receive your own posts to the list" set, it seems when I send
messages to list@freebsd.org I don't get my own copy. I reread the
mailing list info on the freebsd.org page and it said to send messages
to freebsd-list@freebsd.org so I thought the option to send to
list@freesbd.org must have been removed and only to
freebsd-list@freebsd.org must be working now. Strangely, when I send
to freebsd-list@freebsd.org, I get my own copy.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:45 PM, <jeff@degrind.org> wrote:
> Joey,
> More than likely snd_ich but best bet is to:
> kldunload snd_driver
> kldload snd_ich
> dmesg
> if pcm0 doesn't load then:
> kldload snd_hda
>
> Jeff
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to determine what sound card a notebook has. There are
>> three relevant dmesg lines below, but looking at freebsd's hardware
>> notes, I can't tell whether I should use the snd_ich(4) driver for an
>> Intel ICH4 card, the snd_hda(4) driver for an 82801 card or a sigmatel
>> card. Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> %cat /var/run/dmesg.boot| grep pcm
>> pcm0: <Intel ICH4 (82801DB)> port 0xee00-0xeeff,0xe000-0xe03f mem
>> 0xffaff800-0xffaff9ff,0xffaff400-0xffaff4ff irq 4 at device 31.5 on
>> pci0
>> pcm0: [ITHREAD]
>> pcm0: <SigmaTel STAC9750/51 AC97 Codec>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Joey
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On Jun 12, 2008, at 4:43 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
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> Christopher Sean Hilton writes:
>
>>>> I just got an Intel Dual gigabit nic that I planned to use with
>>>> FreeBSD 7-STABLE.
>>>
>>> I'm using this on
>>>
>>> FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Apr 19 23:17:00 EDT 2008 i386
>>>
>>>
>>> with no problems.
>>
>> Sounds cool. I had one going in an older laptop as early as 5.x-
>> STABLE
>> I'm pretty sure it's strongly supported by FreeBSD.
>
> Actually, the code is cotributed/maintained by Intel.
>
>> Did you have to do anything special to get it going?
>
> huff@>> more /boot/loader.conf | grep _em
> if_em_load="YES"
>
> Your mileage may vary.
Yeah, my first instinct was to assume that the em driver isn't in the
GENERIC kernel to so I did this:
# kldload -v if_em
Which promptly fired back a bunch of errors about duplicate symbols.
At that time I figured that the em module is already loaded into the
GENERIC kernel. This was confirmed by doing:
# grep '^device.*em' /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC
device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit
Ethernet Card
device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet
...
I can try that later but given that the em driver is already in the
kernel I don't expect it to bear fruit. However, can you do a kldstat
on your machine with the em card? It will tell me if there is some
firmware module or something that I'm missing.
-- Chris
P.S. In digging around on Google I found kern/117926 in the Bug
tracking system.
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Christopher Sean Hilton writes:
> I can try that later but given that the em driver is already in the
> kernel I don't expect it to bear fruit. However, can you do a kldstat
> on your machine with the em card? It will tell me if there is some
> firmware module or something that I'm missing.
huff@>> kldstat
Id Refs Address Size Name
1 47 0xc0400000 4b9868 kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel)
2 2 0xc08ba000 29820 linux.ko (/boot/kernel/linux.ko)
3 1 0xc08e4000 2839c if_em.ko (/boot/kernel/if_em.ko)
4 1 0xc090d000 24b4 accf_http.ko (/boot/kernel/accf_http.ko)
5 1 0xc0910000 6a808 acpi.ko (/boot/kernel/acpi.ko)
6 1 0xc4e76000 7000 linprocfs.ko (/boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko)
7 1 0xc5207000 1f000 nfsserver.ko (/boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko)
8 1 0xc5239000 a000 nfslockd.ko (/boot/kernel/nfslockd.ko)
9 1 0xc5244000 f000 krpc.ko (/boot/kernel/krpc.ko)
> P.S. In digging around on Google I found kern/117926 in the Bug
> tracking system.
That machine has a ASUS P4B motherboard.
Robert Huff
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On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:38 PM, Robert Huff wrote:
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> Christopher Sean Hilton writes:
>
>> I can try that later but given that the em driver is already in the
>> kernel I don't expect it to bear fruit. However, can you do a kldstat
>> on your machine with the em card? It will tell me if there is some
>> firmware module or something that I'm missing.
>
> huff@>> kldstat
> Id Refs Address Size Name
> 1 47 0xc0400000 4b9868 kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel)
> 2 2 0xc08ba000 29820 linux.ko (/boot/kernel/linux.ko)
> 3 1 0xc08e4000 2839c if_em.ko (/boot/kernel/if_em.ko)
> 4 1 0xc090d000 24b4 accf_http.ko (/boot/kernel/accf_http.ko)
> 5 1 0xc0910000 6a808 acpi.ko (/boot/kernel/acpi.ko)
> 6 1 0xc4e76000 7000 linprocfs.ko (/boot/kernel/linprocfs.ko)
> 7 1 0xc5207000 1f000 nfsserver.ko (/boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko)
> 8 1 0xc5239000 a000 nfslockd.ko (/boot/kernel/nfslockd.ko)
> 9 1 0xc5244000 f000 krpc.ko (/boot/kernel/krpc.ko)
>
>
>> P.S. In digging around on Google I found kern/117926 in the Bug
>> tracking system.
>
> That machine has a ASUS P4B motherboard.
>
Doesn't look like there's a firmware module though.
Thanks
-- Chris
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 02:17:46PM -0700, Nerius Landys wrote:
> I'm running FreeBSD 7.0, and I have 'ntpd_enable="YES"' in my /etc/rc.conf.
> Every time I reboot my server, I get two ntpd processes:
>
> nlandys@daffy# ps -U root | grep ntpd
> PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND
> 571 ?? Ss 0:00.12 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
> /var/run/ntpd.pid
> 686 ?? S 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /etc/ntp.conf -p
> /var/run/ntpd.pid
This is normal. ntpd spawns a secondary process to check timesyncs on
startup. Have a look at the parent-child links with "ps l". It goes
away after it has decided which time-source to use.
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Is FreeBSD going to enhance himself on the desktop ? It seems that
>> FreeBSD
>
> i don't understand your question. FreeBSD can run any unix program, be
> in "server program" or "desktop program" whatever "desktop" means for you.
>
> there is nothing to be enhanced.
I beg to differ. There is far more desktop particularly multimedia
development in Linux - lots more people and much wider range of
interests. Programs that are not available for FreeBSD include
Cinelerra, projectM and (I think, but please prove me wrong) the
climateprediction.net BOINC project. If you only want applications that
are in the ports tree (and the vast majority are) chances are they are
pretty current and work well, in which case FreeBSD makes an easy to
maintain, fast, stable desktop.
It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and
you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want
out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind
diy FreeBSD is your toolbox.
There was a discussion about this in questions a while back. Look for
subject FreeBSD & Linux distro.
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I think I did just about the worst thing I could do to my
organization's FreeBSD-4.11 email server today:
I was trying to free up space on the root disk and attempted to copy
the /etc directory to another disk, /new/etc, then delete and symlink
the old location to the new:
$ sudo cp -Rp /etc /new/etc
$ sudo rm -rd /etc/; sudo ln -s /new/etc /etc
Of course, with the sudoers file in the original /etc directory, the
first "sudo" command to remove the /etc directory disabled the second
"sudo" command's ability to run.
Now, I cannot log in as a privileged user to copy or move /new/etc
back to /etc. (Because the password files were also in /etc.) I've
tried booting into Single User mode with "boot -s" at the boot prompt,
only to receive a "mountroot>" prompt wanting to know where to find
the root filesystem. I've also tried booting from my installation
distribution, but can't get out of the installation without the
machine rebooting.
To make a long story shorter, is there any hope for getting a
privileged user account on this machine to move /etc back to where it
should be?
--
Glenn Gillis
ELAW U.S. Information Technology Manager
Environmental Law Alliance Worldwide
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Glenn Gillis wrote:
> Now, I cannot log in as a privileged user to copy or move /new/etc
> back to /etc. (Because the password files were also in /etc.) I've
> tried booting into Single User mode with "boot -s" at the boot prompt,
> only to receive a "mountroot>" prompt wanting to know where to find
> the root filesystem.
What type of disk(s) do you have in the box?
I can't remember the exact syntax of the mountroot prompt, but I'll
break one of my machines here to 'remind' myself if you know what driver
you use for your root partition.
ad (IDE)
ar (RAID)
da (SCSI)
...etc.
Steve
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Daniel Gerzo wrote:
> Tuesday, June 3, 2008, 8:27:56 PM, you wrote:
>
>> does patch exist for it?
>
> http://sources.zabbadoz.net/freebsd/jail.html
Trying to apply the aforementioned patches, I ran into this during
buildkernel. I'll remove src, re csup and rebuild and try again. If
there is a more appropriate list for this, please let me know...
build# uname -a
FreeBSD build.ibctech.ca 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Feb 29
11:53:16 EST 2008 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c: In function 'jail':
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:174: error: 'ip4' undeclared (first use in
this function)
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:174: error: (Each undeclared identifier is
reported only once
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:174: error: for each function it appears in.)
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:179: error: 'ip6' undeclared (first use in
this function)
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_jail.c:227: warning: label 'e_free_ip' defined
but not used
*** Error code 1
Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC.
*** Error code 1
Steve
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On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that
> instead of
> just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any
> advantage
> to large stripes?
Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which
defaults to a miserable 4k.
Doesn't appear the driver collects multiple pending reads and merges
them into one transaction. Don't know if ATA/SATA allows that or not,
believe it was called "scatter/gather" in SCSI.
Built a gstripe volume a while back and played with various stripe
sizes trying to maximize KB/t as shown in "systat -v" during massive
file read/writes. A stripe size of 131072 (128k bytes) was the best I
could get at about 43 KB/t. About 25 MB/sec each on two drives that
are capable of 4x that on a Mac Pro (about 55 MB/sec single drive on
inner tracks to 100 MB/sec on outer, reading with md5).
Anyway, throughput was terrible with the default 4k stripe.
If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being
told what.
IIRC vinum's default stripe was about 87.5kB and "systat -v" reported
transactions of that size.
--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
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In the last episode (Jun 12), Glenn Gillis said:
> I think I did just about the worst thing I could do to my
> organization's FreeBSD-4.11 email server today:
>
> I was trying to free up space on the root disk and attempted to copy
> the /etc directory to another disk, /new/etc, then delete and symlink
> the old location to the new:
>
> $ sudo cp -Rp /etc /new/etc
> $ sudo rm -rd /etc/; sudo ln -s /new/etc /etc
>
> Of course, with the sudoers file in the original /etc directory, the
> first "sudo" command to remove the /etc directory disabled the second
> "sudo" command's ability to run.
>
> Now, I cannot log in as a privileged user to copy or move /new/etc
> back to /etc. (Because the password files were also in /etc.) I've
> tried booting into Single User mode with "boot -s" at the boot
> prompt, only to receive a "mountroot>" prompt wanting to know where
> to find the root filesystem. I've also tried booting from my
> installation distribution, but can't get out of the installation
> without the machine rebooting.
>
> To make a long story shorter, is there any hope for getting a
> privileged user account on this machine to move /etc back to where it
> should be?
It may be easiest to boot a live CD (FreeSBIE, or a FreeBSD-7 install
disc 1 should work), mount both of your hard drives from it, and put
/etc back where it belongs that way.
--
Dan Nelson
dnelson@allantgroup.com
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Dan Nelson wrote:
>> To make a long story shorter, is there any hope for getting a
>> privileged user account on this machine to move /etc back to where it
>> should be?
>
> It may be easiest to boot a live CD (FreeSBIE, or a FreeBSD-7 install
> disc 1 should work), mount both of your hard drives from it, and put
> /etc back where it belongs that way.
This is a very good point, but in this case, if its only /etc that has
been relocated, the system is at mountroot> because fstab can't be found.
If the disk type is known, it is as simple as typing the appropriate
location of the root fs at that prompt and the system will come up.
Under single user, the OP would have full access to everything to revert
the changes (perhaps other disk areas with binaries may have to be
mounted manually as well)...
I'm off to try it. I've got a system here with a da device. I'll fsck up
/etc/fstab, reboot, and report back with the appropriate mountroot>
prompt entry...
Steve
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Steve Bertrand wrote:
> Dan Nelson wrote:
> I'm off to try it. I've got a system here with a da device. I'll fsck up
> /etc/fstab, reboot, and report back with the appropriate mountroot>
> prompt entry...
# cat /etc/fstab
# Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/da0a / ufs rw,noatime 1 1
md /tmp mfs rw,-s32M,nosuid,noatime
0 0
(..snip..)
..change /etc/fstab to mount root to /dev/ad15a, reboot:
mountroot>
# mountroot>ufs:/dev/da0a {ENTER}
...machine boots up.
To the OP...if you know what your disk type is, you CAN get it to
continue to mount root at the mountroot prompt.
Furthering that, you can also fsck and mount your other disk mountpoints
in order to gain access to your editing binaries.
There is no need to use an external resource to boot the machine from if
you are already aware that the only thing that got fsck'd up is the
mountpoints in the fstab (or, like in this case, the file was
unavailable entirely). The disk structure is still the same, and the
system can see this with manual intervention.
OP: at the mountroot> prompt, try this: ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
and see if you get anywhere.
Steve
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> To the OP...if you know what your disk type is, you CAN get it to
> continue to mount root at the mountroot prompt.
>
> Furthering that, you can also fsck and mount your other disk mountpoints
> in order to gain access to your editing binaries.
I'm sorry to reply to my own posts, but I'd like to point out that this
exact scenario is a very good reason as to why I make either a digital
or printout copy of my /etc/fstab file of every machine I run.
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greetings, derek,
much appreciated the prompt reply
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:43:42PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:
> At 06:36 AM 6/11/2008, jonathan michaels wrote:
bit of history trimed for brevity
> >in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all
> >bases.
> >
> >i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr
> >
> > and then an entry into the mailertable
> >
> >. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
> >
> >again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post,
> >again this defered post business .. can't asign ..
> >
> >there is something going on here that i donot understand ..
> >some enlightenment would be appreciated, please.
> >
> >the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me
> >access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message
> >and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i
> >have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for
> >smart_host mail_hub macros.
> >
> >is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to
> >postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet
> >(me and hardware issues)
> >
> >it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough
> >about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this
> >one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was
> >doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of
> >sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except
> >teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh
> >maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron
> >events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder
> >
> >it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come
> >to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back
> >to freebsd v2.2.5 ..
> >
> >regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess
> >
> >jonathan
>
> You need to have in /etc/mail/mailertable:
> .caamora.com.au esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
> and rebuild mailertable.db
should not the "esmpt:" rather be "esmtp:" most of teh literature that
i have read recently says it the esmtp way .. i live with dsylexia
amongst other neurological disabilities and need to double/triple/add a
few more time to check things before i am confident of success (not
failing) based on 'spelling' alone.
> In /etc/mail/domaintable:
> mail.caamora.com.au
> and rebuild domaintable.db
i used to run a uucp mail service for several clients back in teh
fidonet days (internet to fidonet gateway) and this made sence then,
now i fali to understand the need .. i just do not know and would
appreciate a bit of an explanation please ..
mail.caamora.com.au is an alias (in the dns file and /etc/hosts) for
the machine seaholm.caamora.com.au which is the primary mailserver for
the domain .caamora.com.au ... is not tthe domaintable used to remap an
old domain to a new domain name after some soprt of a change or to use
names in 'rule 3' mappings .. if i have missunderstood my readings i
apoloise, i am new to sendmail fiddlings, i set it up ten years ago and
it worked i now have to relearn who and why .. my disabilities have
gotten a bit worse because of teh medicines i need to take and this
makes learning a bit on teh harder side .. but not impossible <gentle
smile>
> in /etc/mail/local-host-names:
> caamora.com.au
check, it was done long time ago
> and double check your MX record and /etc/hosts
i looked at my dns files and found a small disaprity from a name
change about 2 years ago, i made teh change in teh main file but forgot
to carry it into teh reverse lookup file, grrrr.
as for the MX records they have been much teh same for about 15 years,
i like long term stability makes for peace of mind <grin>, the down
side is that when things go wrong like this, it is a nightmare to
recall what, how did/done way back when the system was built/changed
last .. makes for lots of work sometimes.
> Once that is all done, execute:
> /etc/rc.sendmail stop
> wait until all instances die then:
> /etc/rc.sendmail start
ok .. did teh checks, made teh changes, even the domaintable, though i
don;t understand how it works, the only thing i don't do as you wrote
was teh esmpt .. i used teh more popular esmtp ??
apart from fixing teh esmtp mistype i did it all and checked teh mx
host my dns setup and still its dead in teh water, still defering all
mail out from this box.
might it have some thing to do with this line in teh sendmail config
line it is commented out ??
the one reference that i found on teh world wide internet made some
sort of reference to this being the cause in the linux machine that had
a similar issue back in 2003 ???
# SMTP client options
#O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0
what would happen if i uncommented this line in teh sendmail.cf file ?
also, what use are teh sendmail config files that are named /etc/mail/host,name.cf
when i forst installed freebsd in this machine it built these files and
since then nothing has touched the two files .. what are they for what
do they do in teh sendmail hiearchay ??? please ?
this is a really confusing situation, i've got nowhere else to go for
informations
much appreciations for teh help.
kind regards
jonathan
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Steve Bertrand wrote:
> If the disk type is known, it is as simple as typing the appropriate
> location of the root fs at that prompt and the system will come up.
I don't remember about FreeBSD 4, but last time I dealt with a broken
fstab on FreeBSD 6 I could just press tab to get a list of valid block
devices. Then, I could just try each one until it worked - very useful
for when you move IDE cabling around and the drive numbers change.
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Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?
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fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com wrote:
> For example, I think the installation and local language support(I need
> to read and input Chinese frequently) of ubuntu may be better than FreeBSD.
I believe most of those sorts of enhancements would be provided by the
applications or desktop environment. Gnome or KDE should have similar
language support regardless of OS. However, you may have to enable
language-specific features when building each port - run 'make config'
before building to be sure there aren't any optional but disabled
options related to language support.
There are also language specific ports of some applications - check the
ports tree in /usr/ports/chinese/ for information (after installing).
--Andrew
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On Jun 12, 2008, at 3:24 PM, David Naylor wrote:
> This is a general enquiry. What had sparked my interest in this
> subject is
> the above mentioned article. In this case it is a workstation used
> to access
> and manage account and cash flows. The threat would be anyone
> gaining access
> to 'divert' funds to incorrect accounts, for obvious personal gains.
How much money are we talking about? If it is billions of NZD that is
one thing, if it is thousands of NZD that is another. The question is
would someone with resources make a concerted effort to specifically
target your system? If so, you should hire a local professional.
If your concern is more about the kinds of wide spread automated
attacks, then really it's just a matter of doing the basic sorts of
things. Disabling root SSH logins, have your perimeter firewall check
for unusual out-bound traffic, and of course, keeping the system
properly updated.
> Specifically, the two threats would be remote attach (such as
> spyware being
> deployed, or gaining remote access)
I haven't played around with it, but you might want to look at
Mandatory Access Control (described in the Handbook). It's something
that has been on my "to learn" list for a while, but I am getting
through that list very slowly. From what you've said, it sounds like
you are talking about a multi-user system. Something like MAC really
may be the best approach to preventing individual users from being
tricked into doing stupid things.
> or physical access (in which case keeping
> the username and password safe will be the only option? Assuming
> their is no
> compromise on the human side)
For a typical machine, physical access means all access. If I have
physical access to a machine, I may be able to boot it from my own
boot media (a CD for example) and then read everything on the hard
disks. I could remove the disks and copy them. I could install a
physical keystroke logger between the keyboard and the box. There
really is a lot that can be done with physical access.
So if you have reason to believe that attackers would have physical
access to the machine, you should use encrypted file systems.
Note that with both MAC and encrypted file systems you run an
increased risk of locking yourself out of the system by accident.
So what measures you wish to take, with their additional costs and
risks, depends on a careful and realistic view of what the threats are.
I've enjoyed this discussion.
Cheers,
-j
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After a fresh installation of freeBSD 7.0, I am unable to communicate
with any hosts beyond the local subnet. All important values
(gateway, netmask,etc) were copied from other unix hosts on the same
subnet. Presumably I've either failed to include something important
or there is a conflict. Details follow...
thanks for any assistance,
ed
%uname -a
FreeBSD newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0:
Sun Feb 24
19:59:52 UTC 2008
root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICi386
here's the current net config:
newdewey# ifconfig
xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
options=9<RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU>
ether 00:01:02:c1:b6:fb
inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 128.32.157.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
status: active
plip0: flags=108810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT> metric 0 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
Here's the contents of /etc/rc.conf:
newdewey# more rc.conf
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008
# Created: Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
defaultrouter="128.32.157.1"
hostname="newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu"
ifconfig_xl0="inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 255.255.255.0"
inetd_enable="YES"
linux_enable="YES"
# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue May 27 19:42:16 2008
router_flags="-q"
router="/sbin/routed"
router_enable="YES"
%netstat -r
Routing tables
Internet:
Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif
Expire
default fast2-2.inr-240-mu UGS 0 1088 xl0
localhost localhost UH 0 905 lo0
128.32.157.0 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0
fast2-2.inr-240-mu 00:0c:86:7a:75:c0 UHLW 2 0 xl0
1197
dewey 08:00:2b:86:6e:ca UHLW 1 77 xl0
1144
tolman-18.LIPS.Ber 00:0a:95:b1:e7:fe UHLW 1 0 xl0
Finally, the current situation is that I can ping hosts on the 128.32.157.*
subnet, but not anything beyond.
newdewey# ping google.com
PING google.com (64.233.187.99): 56 data bytes
^C
--- google.com ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
newdewey# ping dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
PING dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (128.32.157.3): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.360 ms
64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.320 ms
^C
--- dewey.soe.berkeley.edu ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.320/0.340/0.360/0.020 ms
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>> Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead
>> of
>> just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage
>> to large stripes?
>
> Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which defaults
> to a miserable 4k.
depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer,
i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB.
then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have
good chances to touch different drives
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>> Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead
>> of
>> just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage
>> to large stripes?
>
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> to a miserable 4k.
depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer,
i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB.
then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have
good chances to touch different drives
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Hello
Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
Thank you.
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> Hello
>
> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
grep in /usr/ports/INDEX
or
ls -ld /usr/ports/*/packagename
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Gilles skrev:
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>
> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
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> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
>
> Thank you.
Or
http://www.se.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
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Gilles skrev:
> Hello
>=20
> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
>=20
> Thank you.
Try 'whereis portname'.
Best Regards
Catalin Miclaus
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:17:02 +0100, "Catalin Miclaus"
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>Try 'whereis portname'.
Thanks. That seems to be the fastest way:
# whereis lftp
lftp: /usr/local/bin/lftp /usr/local/man/man1/lftp.1.gz
/usr/ports/ftp/lftp
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:39:10 +0200, Gilles <gilles.ganault@free.fr>
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>Thanks. That seems to be the fastest way:
Actually... no:
# whereis samba
samba: /usr/ports/japanese/samba
# whereis samba3
samba3: /usr/ports/japanese/samba3
# find /usr/ports/ -name "samba*"
[...]
/usr/ports/net/samba3
Why didn't "whereis" find samba3? Do I need to run a command to keep
it up-to-date with "csup ports-supfile?
Thank you.
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I use
cd /usr/ports && make search name=portname
It will return extraneous results from time to time.
eg.
[/usr/ports](11:39:22)
{root@prawn}#cd /usr/ports && make search name=lftp
Port: lftp-3.7.3_1
Path: /usr/ports/ftp/lftp
Info: Shell-like command line ftp client
Maint: ganael.laplanche@martymac.com
B-deps: expat-2.0.1 gettext-0.17_1 libiconv-1.11_1
R-deps: expat-2.0.1 gettext-0.17_1 libiconv-1.11_1
WWW: http://lftp.yar.ru/
Port: fusefs-curlftpfs-0.9.1_1
Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/fusefs-curlftpfs
Info: Mount remote ftp directories
Maint: infofarmer@FreeBSD.org
B-deps: curl-7.18.0 fusefs-libs-2.7.2_1 gettext-0.17_1 glib-2.16.3_1
libiconv-1.11_1 pcre-7.7 perl-5.8.8_1 pkg-config-0.23_1 python25-2.5.2_2
R-deps: curl-7.18.0 fusefs-kmod-0.3.9.p1.20080208_1 fusefs-libs-2.7.2_1
gamin-0.1.9_2 gettext-0.17_1 gio-fam-backend-2.16.3_1 glib-2.16.3_1
libiconv-1.11_1 pcre-7.7 perl-5.8.8_1 pkg-config-0.23_1 python25-2.5.2_2
WWW: http://curlftpfs.sourceforge.net/
Vince
Catalin Miclaus wrote:
> Gilles skrev:
>> Hello
>>
>> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
>> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
>> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
>>
>> Thank you.
>
> Try 'whereis portname'.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards
> Catalin Miclaus
> Network/Security ISP-Data
> Starcomms Ltd.
>
>
>
> Or
>
> http://www.se.freebsd.org/ports/index.html
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Gilles <gilles.ganault@free.fr> wrote:
> Hello
>=20
> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
>=20
> Thank you.
You can use 'make search name=3D' or 'make search key=3D'
For example in /usr/ports type:
make search name=3D"samba" | grep Path
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>You can use 'make search name=' or 'make search key='
Thanks, much faster.
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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:54:45PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
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>
> J. Porter Clark wrote:
> | On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
> |> J. Porter Clark wrote:
> |> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it?
> |> | If so, how?
> |>
> |> Yes, Section 2.2 of
> |>
> |> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html
> |
> | Well, no, because I can't do this:
> |
> | # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k
> |
> | If I do this:
> |
> | % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full
>
> Try with burncd
>
> | burncd -f /dev/acd0 data _.disk.full fixate
No joy. Produces the same disk that cdrecord does, and boots
from hard disk instead.
I think that this is the problem: The BIOS knows how to boot
from a CD if and only if that CD is an "El Torito" bootable
image. That is, the first sector of the CD is NOT a Master Boot
Record. That's just a hypothesis based on the observation that
all of the successfully bootable CDs I have appear to be in "El
Torito" format.
I don't have a way to make such an image without using mkisofs.
Figuring out how to pack the nanobsd image in such a way that
mkisofs can make an "El Torito" bootable CD from it sounds
difficult, offhand. Anybody know how to do this sort of thing?
Is it even possible?
--
J. Porter Clark <jpc@porterclark.com>
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Subject: Re: error mounting USB disk: Invalid argument [SOLVED]
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Colin_Brace wrote:
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> I am having difficulties mounting a USB drive under 7.0-STABLE. Running
> sysinstall, I can create a partition and format it. But sysinstall is
> unable to mount it:
>
> Error mounting /dev/da0s1d on /media/disk6 : Invalid argument
>
> The same error ocurrs when I try to mount it manually on the command line.
> I have tried various mount points, to no avail.
>
> Anyone have any ideas what is going wrong?
>
I am not sure what was going wrong then, but I now have this working, both
with a Myson-based chipset device (ATA->USB) as well as a JMicron-based
device (SATA->USB).
I am not sure whether this is a factor, but I also added a USB v2 PCI card
to the box (it is an older Pentium IV with a motherboard that only supports
USB v1.1). The chipset of this card is Via.
For several of the ext3 partitions, I had to run "fsck_ext2fs" first before
I could mount them.
Thanks for the various suggestions; they pointed me in the right direction.
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Subject: Re: Nanobsd on a CD-ROM
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to make a freebsd CDROM bootable you need to use the /boot/cdboot as the
loader and make an ISO image. the nanobsd procedure creates a ufs disk
image from what I understand.
Try mounting the disk image
mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 11 -f /path/to/image/_.disk.full
mkdir /mnt/image
mount /dev/md11 /mnt/image
(might be /dev/md11s1a or similar, see whats created and find what works.)
Then make an ISO of the mounted nanobsd image
mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b /boot/cdboot \
-iso-level 3 -o nanobsd.iso /mnt/image
Then either burn it to CD or install qemu to see if it boots before
making another coaster.
I havent tried this exactly but this should work, may need polishing though.
Vince
J. Porter Clark wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 06:54:45PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>>
>> J. Porter Clark wrote:
>> | On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 04:40:25PM +0200, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
>> |> J. Porter Clark wrote:
>> |> | Is it possible to build a CD-ROM with a bootable NanoBSD on it?
>> |> | If so, how?
>> |>
>> |> Yes, Section 2.2 of
>> |>
>> |> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/index.html
>> |
>> | Well, no, because I can't do this:
>> |
>> | # dd if=_.disk.full of=/dev/acd0 bs=64k
>> |
>> | If I do this:
>> |
>> | % cdrecord -v -immed driveropts=burnfree dev=1,0,0 -data _.disk.full
>>
>> Try with burncd
>>
>> | burncd -f /dev/acd0 data _.disk.full fixate
>
> No joy. Produces the same disk that cdrecord does, and boots
> from hard disk instead.
>
> I think that this is the problem: The BIOS knows how to boot
> from a CD if and only if that CD is an "El Torito" bootable
> image. That is, the first sector of the CD is NOT a Master Boot
> Record. That's just a hypothesis based on the observation that
> all of the successfully bootable CDs I have appear to be in "El
> Torito" format.
>
> I don't have a way to make such an image without using mkisofs.
> Figuring out how to pack the nanobsd image in such a way that
> mkisofs can make an "El Torito" bootable CD from it sounds
> difficult, offhand. Anybody know how to do this sort of thing?
> Is it even possible?
>
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> Then make an ISO of the mounted nanobsd image
>
> mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b /boot/cdboot \
> -iso-level 3 -o nanobsd.iso /mnt/image
i don't know if -J is needed (rather not), and -iso-level 3 too, but it is
OK.
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On Thursday 12 June 2008, David Kelly wrote:
> Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which
> defaults to a miserable 4k.
Ugh. It seems like there are a few possibilities here, and I'm not sure=20
which is actually true.
Say you have two drives, striped.
1) Ideally, you could have a 512 byte stripe size. A program tries to read=
=20
4KB. Then, gstripe would issue a single request to each drive to read 4=20
blocks and interleaves the results.
2) Less ideally, you'd have a 128KB stripe size. A program requests a=20
single block, but gstripe reads the entire stripe to fulfill the request. =
=20
Not so hot for random access.
3) Worst, maybe? You have a 512 byte stripe. A program reads 4KB. gstrip=
e=20
reads 512B from da0, then 512B from da1, then 512B from da0, etc.
Actually, I guess you could also have a combination of #2 and #3, where=20
small reads fetch an entire stripe while large reads are broken into lots=20
of tiny ones.
So, back to gstripe. Which of those is it most like?
> If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being
> told what.
Pass it along, would ya? :-)
Oh, and don't forget to make your partition offsets
=2D-=20
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08:48AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead
> >>of
> >>just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage
> >>to large stripes?
> >
> >Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which
> >defaults to a miserable 4k.
>
>
> depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer,
> i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB.
>
> then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have
> good chances to touch different drives
Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the
ATA max transaction size of 128k.
Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a
gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that
"systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each?
On a non-striped filesystem the same operation runs 126k to 127k
transfers.
Transfer bandwidth seems to be limited by the number of transactions per
second more than the size of the transaction.
--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
========================================================================
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>> Then make an ISO of the mounted nanobsd image
>>
>> mkisofs -J -R -no-emul-boot -b /boot/cdboot \
>> -iso-level 3 -o nanobsd.iso /mnt/image
>
> i don't know if -J is needed (rather not), and -iso-level 3 too, but it
> is OK.
True, I just grabbed a command line I've used in the past., like I said,
needs polishing.
I'm building a nanobsd image at the moment to have a play (slow
afternoon at work ;)
Vince
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On Friday 13 June 2008, David Kelly wrote:
> Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a
> gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that
> "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each?
Even more unlikely, why are *my* numbers almost identical to yours? Here's=
=20
a snapshot of mine at this very second:
Disks da0 da1 da2 da3 da4
KB/t 26.77 42.05 41.70 41.98 41.70
where da[1-4] are my gstripe providers with a 128KB stripe size. I find it=
=20
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almost the exact same values.
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Subject: amule eats up my swap!!
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Hi all,
I guess this is a rare issue, but "I think" my amule, when no
upload limit, eats up my swap, and cause amule to crash. After I set
limit to 10K, the mule runs fine. I have 1G ram and 2G swap, and
without upload limit, amule crash very often. does anyone know what is
going on?? thank you!
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On Thursday 12 June 2008, you wrote:
> If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being
> told what.
Dang it; hit "send" on accident.
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>> then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have
>> good chances to touch different drives
>
> Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the
> ATA max transaction size of 128k.
yes it is.
max transaction doesn't begin on boundary. may (usually will) start
somewhere inbetween. making stripe size >>max transaction makes it
inprobable.
BTW you mean ATA max transaction or FreeBSD default MAXBSIZE, which
i change to 1MB
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>> then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have
>> good chances to touch different drives
>
> Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the
> ATA max transaction size of 128k.
yes it is.
max transaction doesn't begin on boundary. may (usually will) start
somewhere inbetween. making stripe size >>max transaction makes it
inprobable.
BTW you mean ATA max transaction or FreeBSD default MAXBSIZE, which
i change to 1MB
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On Friday 13 June 2008, David Kelly wrote:
> Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a
> gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that
> "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each?
Even more unlikely, why are *my* numbers almost identical to yours? Here's=
=20
a snapshot of mine at this very second:
Disks da0 da1 da2 da3 da4
KB/t 26.77 42.05 41.70 41.98 41.70
where da[1-4] are my gstripe providers with a 128KB stripe size. I find it=
=20
unlikely that our workloads are so similar that we'd coincidentally have=20
almost the exact same values.
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On Thursday 12 June 2008, David Kelly wrote:
> Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which
> defaults to a miserable 4k.
Ugh. It seems like there are a few possibilities here, and I'm not sure=20
which is actually true.
Say you have two drives, striped.
1) Ideally, you could have a 512 byte stripe size. A program tries to read=
=20
4KB. Then, gstripe would issue a single request to each drive to read 4=20
blocks and interleaves the results.
2) Less ideally, you'd have a 128KB stripe size. A program requests a=20
single block, but gstripe reads the entire stripe to fulfill the request. =
=20
Not so hot for random access.
3) Worst, maybe? You have a 512 byte stripe. A program reads 4KB. gstrip=
e=20
reads 512B from da0, then 512B from da1, then 512B from da0, etc.
Actually, I guess you could also have a combination of #2 and #3, where=20
small reads fetch an entire stripe while large reads are broken into lots=20
of tiny ones.
So, back to gstripe. Which of those is it most like?
> If there is a tuning knob that I have missed, would appreciate being
> told what.
Pass it along, would ya? :-)
Oh, and don't forget to make your partition offsets
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> Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a
> gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that
> "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each?
because every single 128kB reads is CROSSING 128kB boundary?
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> Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a
> gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that
> "systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each?
because every single 128kB reads is CROSSING 128kB boundary?
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> I don't have a way to make such an image without using mkisofs.
> Figuring out how to pack the nanobsd image in such a way that
> mkisofs can make an "El Torito" bootable CD from it sounds
> difficult, offhand. Anybody know how to do this sort of thing?
> Is it even possible?
Yes, of course this is possible. Think of the the FreeBSD installation
images that boot from CD too. I did this already with a custom
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08:48AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>Does gstripe read an entire stripe at a time? If so, why do that instead
> >>of
> >>just reading a few requested blocks? If not, then is there any advantage
> >>to large stripes?
> >
> >Apparently it won't read anything larger than your stripe size which
> >defaults to a miserable 4k.
>
>
> depending from what's needed, but unless i need just huge linear transfer,
> i set stripe size to something huge, like 256MB.
>
> then single read is rarely split on 2 disks, while multiple reads have
> good chances to touch different drives
Come to think of it I didn't try setting the stripe size larger than the
ATA max transaction size of 128k.
Still, I don't understand what is going on when I use md5(1) on a
gigabyte file hosted on a gstripe partition with 128k stripes that
"systat -v" reports transactions are usually between 42k and 43k each?
On a non-striped filesystem the same operation runs 126k to 127k
transfers.
Transfer bandwidth seems to be limited by the number of transactions per
second more than the size of the transaction.
--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 11:02:51AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >It depends how much of a hacker you are. If you want out-of-the-box and=
=20
> >you don't mind kde then choose between pcbsd or desktopbsd. If you want=
=20
> >out-of-the-box and gnome I think you are out of luck. If you don't mind=
=20
> >diy FreeBSD is your toolbox.
>=20
> if you want out of the box "cool desktop" use Windows, because it's a=20
> system made for this.
Is this meant to be trolling?
For glitzy, bells-and-whistles desktop featuritis, I find that open
source Unix-like OSes actually do better in general than MS Windows Vista
and even MacOS X (though at least with MacOS X you can install the X
Window System and get much the same functionality that you can with a
Linux distribution or BSD Unix system):
http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=3D335
For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly competent
computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems discussed at
that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay the heck out of
your way. Good candidates include things like wmii, AHWM, Fluxbox, and
Sawfish. Most people seem to prefer something between the two, however.
If someone wanted a "cool" desktop "experience", though, MS Windows is
about the last place I'd send 'em.
Well, okay, maybe I'd send someone there before OpenVMS, but that's kind
of getting far afield.
--=20
Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ]
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How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
===================================================
Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $
This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If
you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender
thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your
message:
- You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate.
- You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read.
- You asked more than one unrelated question in one message.
- You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone.
- You sent out the same message more than once.
- You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions.
If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you
will get more than one copy of this message from different people.
Read on, and your next message will be more successful.
This document is also available on the web at
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html.
=====================================================================
Contents:
I: Introduction
II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions
V: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions
I: Introduction
===============
This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from
FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the
questions (the "hackers").
Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking
into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter
activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out
yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking
security, and have nothing to do with it.
In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the
hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers
accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English,
and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of
course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the
most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration.
In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the
following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that,
we'll look at how to answer one.
II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions
==============================================
When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message
from freebsd-questions-request@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst
other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical
message:
Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list!
If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to
or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your
subscription page at:
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/me@me.org
(obviously, substitute your mail address for "me@me.org"). You can
also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to:
freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org
with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the
quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions.
You must know your password to change your options (including
changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe.
Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list
passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you
prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to
unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on
your options page that will email your current password to you.
Here's the general information for the list you've
subscribed to, in case you don't already have it:
FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions
This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not
send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the
question to be pretty technical.
Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you
don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one
which you specified when you subscribed.
If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on
the list, this may mean one of two things:
1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where
keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For
example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as
grog@lemis.de. Since then, I have changed it to
grog@lemis.com. If I were to try to remove grog@lemis.com from
the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with
which I joined.
2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
FreeBSD-questions. If that's the case, you'll have to figure out
which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're
not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the
messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a
clue there.
If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going
on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.org, and he will sort things
out for you. Don't send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't
help you.
III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers?
=========================================
Two mailing lists handle general questions about FreeBSD,
FreeBSD-questions and FreeBSD-hackers. In some cases, it's not really
clear which group you should ask. The following criteria should help
for 99% of all questions, however:
If the question is of a general nature, first check whether this
isn't a Frequently Asked Question (FAQ). There's a list of these
questions at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html,
and also on your own system (once you've installed it) at
/usr/share/doc/en/books/faq/index.html. Check there, and if you
don't find an answer, ask FreeBSD-questions. Examples might be
questions about installing FreeBSD or the use of a particular
UNIX utility.
If you think the question relates to a bug, but you're not sure,
or you don't know how to look for it, send the message to
FreeBSD-questions.
If the question relates to a bug, and you're almost sure that
it's a bug (for example, you can pinpoint the place in the code
where it happens, and you maybe have a fix), then send the
message to FreeBSD-hackers. You should also enter a problem
report with the send-pr utility.
If the question relates to enhancements to FreeBSD, and you can
make suggestions about how to implement them, then send the
message to FreeBSD-hackers.
If the question is of particularly technical nature, such as
implementation details or suggestions for improvements, then send
the message to FreeBSD-hackers.
There are also a number of other specialized mailing lists, for
example FreeBSD-isp, which caters to the interests of ISPs (Internet
Service Providers) who run FreeBSD. If you happen to be an ISP, this
doesn't mean you should automatically send your questions to
FreeBSD-isp. The criteria above still apply, and it's in your
interest to stick to them, since you're more likely to get good
results that way.
IV: How to submit a question
=============================
When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the
following points:
1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question.
They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free
will positively by submitting a well-formulated question
supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can
influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete,
illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a
message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer even if you
follow these rules. It's much more possible to not get an
answer if you don't. In the rest of this document, we'll look
at how to get the most out of your question to
FreeBSD-questions.
2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message:
they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests
them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject.
``FreeBSD problem'' or ``Help'' aren't enough. If you provide
no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your
subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may
not read it.
3. When sending a new message, well, send a new message. Don't
reply to some other message, erase the old content and change
the subject line. That leaves an In-reply-to: header which many
mail readers use to thread messages, so your message shows up as
a reply to some other message. People often delete messages a
whole thread at a time, so apart from irritating people, you
also run a chance of having the message deleted unread.
4. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T
SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak
English as their first language, and we try to make allowances
for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message
written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of
badly formatted messages come from bad mailers or badly
configured mailers. The following mailers are known to send out
badly formatted messages without you finding out about them:
Eudora
exmh
Microsoft Exchange
Microsoft Internet Mail
Microsoft Outlook
Netscape
As you can see, the mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent
offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must
use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set
up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers
which don't get on very well with MIME.
For further information on this subject, check out
http://www.lemis.com/email.html.
5. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may
seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but
many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred
messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by
subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the
first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to
look.
6. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly,
a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's
more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the
questions to read the message.
7. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult
area, and we need to expand on what information you need to
submit, but here's a start:
If you get error messages, don't say ``I get error
messages'', say (for example) ``I get the error message 'No
route to host'''.
If your system panics, don't say ``My system panicked'', say
(for example) ``my system panicked with the message 'free
vnode isn't'''.
If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us
what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to
know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in
your machine.
If you have difficulty getting PPP to run, describe the
configuration. Which version of PPP do you use? What kind of
authentication do you have? Do you have a static or dynamic
IP address? What kind of messages do you get in the log file?
8. If you don't get an answer immediately, or if you don't even see
your own message appear on the list immediately, don't resend
the message. Wait at least 24 hours. The FreeBSD mailer
offloads messages to a number of subordinate mailers around the
world, and sometimes it can take several hours for the mail to
get through. And once it gets through, the one person who might
know the answer will probably just have gone to bed in his part
of the world.
9. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there
could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so
complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does
know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after,
say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't
get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably
not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same
message again and again will only make you unpopular.
To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following
question (yes, it's the same one in each case :-). You choose which of
these two questions you would be more prepared to answer:
Message 1:
Subject: (none)
I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong.
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Message 2:
Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD
I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm
having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16
MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball
disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just
fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing
Operating System".
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V: How to follow up to a question
=================================
Often you will want to send in additional information to a question
you have already sent. The best way to do this is to reply to your
original message. This has three advantages:
1. You include the original message text, so people will know what
you're talking about. Don't forget to trim unnecessary text out,
though.
2. The text in the subject line stays the same (you did remember to
put one in, didn't you?). Many mailers will sort messages by
subject. This helps group messages together.
3. The message reference numbers in the header will refer to the
previous message. Some mailers, such as mutt, can thread messages,
showing the exact relationships between the messages.
VI: How to answer a question
============================
Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider:
1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to
answering questions. Read them.
2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to
check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then
(hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all
together.
If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean
that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to
read all the other answers first.
3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been
said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much,
although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a
problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or
whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If
you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further
relevant information.
4. Are you sure you understand the question? Very frequently, the
person who asks the question is confused or doesn't express
himself very well. Even with the best understanding of the system,
it's easy to send a reply which doesn't answer the question. This
doesn't help: you'll leave the person who submitted the question
more frustrated or confused than ever. If nobody else answers, and
you're not too sure either, you can always ask for more
information.
5. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so.
If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply
and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since
nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI
CD-ROM with a frog?".
6. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, reply to the sender
and to FreeBSD-questions. Many people on the FreeBSD-questions
are "lurkers": they learn by reading messages sent and replied to
by others. If you take a message which is of general interest off
the list, you're depriving these people of their information. Be
careful with group replies; lots of people send messages with
hundreds of CCs. If this is the case, be sure to trim the Cc:
lines appropriately.
7. Include relevant text from the original message. Trim it to the
minimum, but don't overdo it. It should still be possible for
somebody who didn't read the original message to understand what
you're talking about.
8. Use some technique to identify which text came from the original
message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending
``> '' to the original message works best. Leaving white space
after the ``> '' and leave empty lines between your text and the
original text both make the result more readable.
9. Put your response in the correct place (after the text to which it
replies). It's very difficult to read a thread of responses where
each reply comes before the text to which it replies.
10. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a
text such as ``Re: ''. If your mailer doesn't do it
automatically, you should do it manually.
11. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too
long, inappropriate subject line), please fix it. In the case of
an incorrect subject line (such as ``HELP!!??''), change the
subject line to (say) ``Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was:
HELP!!??)''. That way other people trying to follow the thread
will have less difficulty following it.
In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you
did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer
without being rude, don't answer.
If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format,
just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send
him this message in reply, if you like.
$Id: Howto-ask-questions,v 1.6 2005/08/10 02:21:44 grog Exp $
_______________________________________________
Thanks to Josh Paetzel for updating this document to describe mailman.
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The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page
or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge
computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a
number of bugs and changes have surfaced.
"The Complete FreeBSD" has been through a total of five editions, including its
predecessor "Installing and Running FreeBSD". Two of these have been reprinted
with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at
http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata
information.
Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF
form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to
download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/
for more information.
Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing?
Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be
able to help
Greg
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Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> For actual productivity-enhancement, assuming you're a highly
> competent computer user, I'd recommend against any of the GUI systems
> discussed at that URL, and stick to window managers that just stay
> the heck out of your way. Good candidates include things like wmii,
> AHWM, Fluxbox, and Sawfish.
>
the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until
recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops.
with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many,
many opportunities. i've been using ion for about a year having tried
and liked kde, gnome, fluxbox, even plwm and many others.
rather than merely playing with some personal options here and there to
customize it, you can actually make your desktop choice to the way you
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Hello,
I'm trying to capture trafic beetween vgetty and an Olitec modem on a
FreeBSD 6.3 box.
I've loaded snp(4) via kldload and watch -co /dev/ttyd2 only captures
traffic sent from vgetty to the modem, not its responses.
Am I missing something trivial or is it a known behaviour ?
TIA.
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Subject: Is Skype voice calling working for anyone? I get "Call failed:
problem with audio playback"
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Googling didn't help. Maybe anyone here would know.
Any time I am trying to make a call I get: "Call failed: problem with
audio playback"
I use Skype port which is 2.0.0.68 with OSS on 70-STABLE.
I use the following device:
$ cat /dev/sndstat
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386)
Installed devices:
pcm0: <Creative EMU10K1> at io 0xdc00 irq 17 kld snd_emu10k1 [MPSAFE]
(4p:1v/2r:1v channels duplex default)
It works, sound plays fine. I tried a different sound card and got the
same problem with Skype.
Anybody is able to use voice calling through Skype?
Yuri
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As devfs is running by default, it seems to me that
it would be relatively easy to run with a readonly
root partition, assuming that the directories under
which writing is necessary (ie; /tmp, /var, /home)
are located in separate, writable partitions.
The main advantages are that none of the configuration
files or binaries in /etc and /usr (which may still
be on a separate readonly partition) are vulnerable
to attack (even from a local privilege escalation)
without remounting the partition as writable.
This used to be a very common setup in the *NIX
world, so I am surprised to find little to no mention
of it in the archives.
I set up my machine this way a couple of months back,
and have noticed some minor things (some few things
assume a writable /etc, notably including dump(8),
and the boot process update to /etc/motd). Once these
have been rectified by relocating the files and setting
up symlinks, there have been no problems.
My questions are:
- does anyone else do this?
- if not, why not?
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hi...
do you have some kind of installation/setup manual?
that would be really interesting to see your steps, and try that myself.
I have some questions too:
- how do you handle updates/ installation of new software?
- how do you prevent someone who hacked the machine to remount '/' as
writable
- how do users update theirs passwords when '/etc' is read-only?
greetz
olli
Am Freitag, den 13.06.2008, 14:47 -0300 schrieb A. Hamilton-Wright:
> As devfs is running by default, it seems to me that
> it would be relatively easy to run with a readonly
> root partition, assuming that the directories under
> which writing is necessary (ie; /tmp, /var, /home)
> are located in separate, writable partitions.
>
> The main advantages are that none of the configuration
> files or binaries in /etc and /usr (which may still
> be on a separate readonly partition) are vulnerable
> to attack (even from a local privilege escalation)
> without remounting the partition as writable.
>
> This used to be a very common setup in the *NIX
> world, so I am surprised to find little to no mention
> of it in the archives.
>
> I set up my machine this way a couple of months back,
> and have noticed some minor things (some few things
> assume a writable /etc, notably including dump(8),
> and the boot process update to /etc/motd). Once these
> have been rectified by relocating the files and setting
> up symlinks, there have been no problems.
>
> My questions are:
> - does anyone else do this?
> - if not, why not?
>
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> As devfs is running by default, it seems to me that
> it would be relatively easy to run with a readonly
> root partition, assuming that the directories under
> which writing is necessary (ie; /tmp, /var, /home)
> are located in separate, writable partitions.
yes.
> The main advantages are that none of the configuration
> files or binaries in /etc and /usr (which may still
/etc is rather writable - for example when user changes password.
> be on a separate readonly partition) are vulnerable
> and the boot process update to /etc/motd). Once these
> have been rectified by relocating the files and setting
> up symlinks, there have been no problems.
>
> My questions are:
> - does anyone else do this?
no that - but i do this on my liveDVD
> - if not, why not?
if you will set securelevel to prevent umounts - it may add much to the
security.
but - the same time - you'll have to reboot system to change anything!
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> the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until
> recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops.
it's OK. users that REQUIRE lots of graphics etc.. don't usually make use
of it. so what's wrong with windoze. right software for the right people.
> with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many,
> many opportunities.
in unix - as you say - you have a choice in every place. so that's good
that "desktop usage" isn't "improved" in FreeBSD as this improvement ==
lack of choice.
for those who don't like to "hack the system", just have everything just
put up and ready to use, there is already windows!
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Mister Olli wrote:
> do you have some kind of installation/setup manual?
> that would be really interesting to see your steps, and try that myself.
There aren't very many steps:
- install as per normal, but with the following on separate
partitions: /, /tmp, /var
Most people usually put /usr on a separate partition too,
as it makes software updates easier
DO NOT put /etc on a separate partition, or you will have
an unbootable system
- make a directory /var/etc (or other similar location in the
writable portion of your filesystem)
- copy the necessary files to /var/etc and create symlinks
in /etc of the form ../var/etc/<filename>
The files I have done this for are dumpdates and motd
Other files may be required if you run other daemons;
I experimented with denyhosts, and therefore had
hosts.allow there for a while
- update /etc/fstab to have 'ro' instead of 'rw' for / and /usr
- reboot or run
mount -u -r / ; mount -u -r /usr
if you want to test whether things are working, just run
mount and see whether things are ok for a while before
updating /etc/fstab -- then any major panics can be solved
with a reboot.
> I have some questions too:
> - how do you handle updates/ installation of new software?
By remounting before doing updates. I don't do updates
that often, so this is not a problem for me.
> - how do you prevent someone who hacked the machine to remount '/' as
> writable
You don't; at least not this simply. The main advantages of
this strategy are protection against (a) accidental changes
by root users and (b) trojans, scripts and other naive rootkits.
Like most security ideas, it is simply a single step along the
way, and the usual rule applies -- anyone who actually has root
has the privileges to damage the system to any extent they like.
> - how do users update theirs passwords when '/etc' is read-only?
This is a larger problem, and one I had forgotten about as the
machine in question is a firewall/datashare that doesn't have
many users. Things should work fine if you are running yp
or similar from another machine; alternatively a password
update script can be written to either (a) do the remount to
allow updating on the fly, or (b) queue the update until a
regular remount+update cycle (as many large shops do).
Certainly not a one-size fits all solution for everyone, but
I remain curious as to why this technique has fallen out of
favour. Perhaps it is this weakness with local passwords that
has caused most people to give up the (relatively small)
security advantages in favour of simplicity?
Andrew.
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Helllo....
I understand your problem (I was once a SCO user/programmer....)
well
the easy way is: a disk of 20GB miminum...
1) Install FreeBSD 7.0 RELEASE (choose your favorite lay out...) that
is /root, /var,swap, /usr
in diferent slices.... swap is about 2Gb... (later will hold
the /tmp) /root is 512M... /var is 8Gb (or more ..)
/usr the rest of the disk....
2) during the installation process do not forget to set up the ethernet,
dns... and install docs,
kernel sources, and PORTS
3) once the machine boots, and is in internet, setup the timezone using
tzsetup, fix the time using
ntpdate -t 10 pool.ntp.org... (this is important....)
4) update the ports with portsnap fetch update .....
5) install some shell with pkg_add -r bash
6) create a super user named admin or whaterver you want....
echo PASSSSWORD | pw adduser admin -o -u 0 -g wheel
-s /usr/local/bin/bash -h 0
7) logout and login as admin....
8) go to the /usr/ports/www/apache22 and type make package, The system
will build your apache
for you....
9) put "apache22_enable=YES" in /etc/rc.conf, start it with the
command /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache22 start.
Your are done....
There are 18600 ports you may want to try.....
I use the 64 bits FreeBSD... is very stable and incredible fast.....
Sergio
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> it and extracted the tar volume. Where do I go from here?. I have read
> many articles until I'm blue in the face.
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Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
kernel mode
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor
read, page not present
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e0
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: code segment = base 0x0,
limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp)
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD 6.3
machine, what more information do I need to provide?
Wednesday it was crashed by *pagedaemon* and about 15 hours earlier by
*g_down*. This is the only record - thus far - to hit the syslog. Also
it crashed twice today and has not recorded
I have an 8x1TB RAID5 on a HighPoint Tech RocketRaid, the primary drive
is a 1TB drive partitioned three times. / 30G, 4G swap and the rest is /usr.
Please advise
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It just happened again:
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel:
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel:
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
kernel mode
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor
read, page not present
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xec0738e0
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xec0738e4
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: code segment = base 0x0,
limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 1385 (cp)
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 4h54m13s
Jun 13 14:32:21 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
Ryan Coleman wrote:
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
> kernel mode
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor
> read, page not present
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: code segment = base 0x0,
> limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp)
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
>
>
> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD 6.3
> machine, what more information do I need to provide?
>
> Wednesday it was crashed by *pagedaemon* and about 15 hours earlier by
> *g_down*. This is the only record - thus far - to hit the syslog. Also
> it crashed twice today and has not recorded
>
> I have an 8x1TB RAID5 on a HighPoint Tech RocketRaid, the primary
> drive is a 1TB drive partitioned three times. / 30G, 4G swap and the
> rest is /usr.
>
> Please advise
> --
> Ryan
>
>
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Hello ALL,
I want to install Samba on FreeBSD 7.0 from ports collection.
when i cd to /usr/ports/net/samba3
make config
LDAP
ADS
and many more options to enable with samba with ADS server 2008
What would like to know which options will best work with ADS Windows
Server 2008? suggestions are welcome and appreciate.
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Yuri wrote:
> Any time I am trying to make a call I get: "Call failed: problem with
> audio playback"
Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING (20080318)? You should upgrade to
compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 with linux_base-fc6. Maybe you might want
to read the thread "linux 2.6 on 7.0-RELEASE" on freebsd-emulation
first. First one this month:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-emulation/2008-June/thread.html
I get the same error message with compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 (fc-4).
Changing to the totally unsupported compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.20, skype
seems to work. As far as I understood, this is just luck, because 2.4.2
is the only supported 2.4 version and 2.6.16 the only (experimentally)
supported 2.6 version. (Other Linux syscalls are not implemented.)
Unsurprisingly, I can reproducibly crash googleearth with 2.4.20, while
it runs fine with 2.4.2 -- 2.4.20 really only helps skype.
For me, running evil skype in an unsupported setting is acceptable.
Cheers,
Jan Henrik
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At 01:14 AM 6/13/2008, Edward Lay wrote:
>After a fresh installation of freeBSD 7.0, I am unable to communicate
>with any hosts beyond the local subnet. All important values
>(gateway, netmask,etc) were copied from other unix hosts on the same
>subnet. Presumably I've either failed to include something important
>or there is a conflict. Details follow...
>
>thanks for any assistance,
>
>ed
Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and dns
for hosts.
Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers are
listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.
-Derek
>%uname -a
>FreeBSD newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0:
>Sun Feb 24
> 19:59:52 UTC 2008
>root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERICi386
>
>
>
>here's the current net config:
>
>newdewey# ifconfig
>xl0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
> options=9<RXCSUM,VLAN_MTU>
> ether 00:01:02:c1:b6:fb
> inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 128.32.157.255
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
> status: active
>plip0: flags=108810<POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT> metric 0 mtu
>1500
>lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
>
>
>Here's the contents of /etc/rc.conf:
>
>newdewey# more rc.conf
>
># -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008
># Created: Thu May 22 21:45:55 2008
># Enable network daemons for user convenience.
># Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
># This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
>defaultrouter="128.32.157.1"
>hostname="newdewey.soe.berkeley.edu"
>ifconfig_xl0="inet 128.32.157.5 netmask 255.255.255.0"
>inetd_enable="YES"
>linux_enable="YES"
># -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Tue May 27 19:42:16 2008
>router_flags="-q"
>router="/sbin/routed"
>router_enable="YES"
>
>
>
>%netstat -r
>Routing tables
>
>Internet:
>Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif
>Expire
>default fast2-2.inr-240-mu UGS 0 1088 xl0
>localhost localhost UH 0 905 lo0
>128.32.157.0 link#1 UC 0 0 xl0
>fast2-2.inr-240-mu 00:0c:86:7a:75:c0 UHLW 2 0 xl0
>1197
>dewey 08:00:2b:86:6e:ca UHLW 1 77 xl0
>1144
>tolman-18.LIPS.Ber 00:0a:95:b1:e7:fe UHLW 1 0 xl0
>
>
> Finally, the current situation is that I can ping hosts on the 128.32.157.*
>subnet, but not anything beyond.
>
>newdewey# ping google.com
>PING google.com (64.233.187.99): 56 data bytes
>^C
>--- google.com ping statistics ---
>5 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
>newdewey# ping dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
>PING dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (128.32.157.3): 56 data bytes
>64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.360 ms
>64 bytes from 128.32.157.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.320 ms
>^C
>--- dewey.soe.berkeley.edu ping statistics ---
>2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
>round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.320/0.340/0.360/0.020 ms
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I will attempt to do this and report back when it happens again.
Bruce Cran wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>
>
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
>> kernel mode
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor
>> read, page not present
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer =
>> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
>> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel:
>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
>> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp)
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
>>
>>
>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD
>> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
>>
>
> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when
> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
>
>
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Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in=20
> kernel mode
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code =3D supervisor=20
> read, page not present
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer =3D 0x20:0x0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer =3D
> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
> pointer =3D 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel:
> code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags =3D interrupt=20
> enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process =3D 925 (cp)
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number =3D 12
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
>=20
>=20
> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD
> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
To be of any use we need a backtrace. See=20
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when
the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
--=20
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At 10:16 PM 6/12/2008, jonathan michaels wrote:
>greetings, derek,
>
>much appreciated the prompt reply
>
>On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:43:42PM -0500, Derek Ragona wrote:
> > At 06:36 AM 6/11/2008, jonathan michaels wrote:
>
>bit of history trimed for brevity
>
> > >in teh freebsd.mc/sendmail.mc and a 'make install' to cover all
> > >bases.
> > >
> > >i treied to restart teh mailqueue ... no luck .. grrr
> > >
> > > and then an entry into the mailertable
> > >
> > >. esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
> > >
> > >again did the make whatever thingie and ... tried to post,
> > >again this defered post business .. can't asign ..
> > >
> > >there is something going on here that i donot understand ..
> > >some enlightenment would be appreciated, please.
> > >
> > >the few bits i found in yahoosearch engine, google resfuses me
> > >access still but yahoo i can use. i looked uo the error message
> > >and turned up this one endrt refereing to teh linux incedent, i
> > >have a copy of bat book ed 1 it just says it exists, same for
> > >smart_host mail_hub macros.
> > >
> > >is there some way to fix this short of upgrading and mvoing to
> > >postfix ?? i don't have teh needed stuff to do that just yet
> > >(me and hardware issues)
> > >
> > >it looks like i've missed somethings but i don't know enough
> > >about freebsd v6.x to know even where to start to look for this
> > >one .. aside from this i have another v6.2 host that also was
> > >doing the same thing but after i copied a working set of
> > >sendmail configs and restarted sendmail it work properly except
> > >teh it dosent forward the "charlie root" mail from teh
> > >maintenece events (at 2 am. 3 am and 4 am from teh /etc/cron
> > >events) the mail itesm just sit in teh /var/mail/root folder
> > >
> > >it has taken me just under 6 mnths to get this far, i've come
> > >to teh end of my rope and am seriously thinking of going back
> > >to freebsd v2.2.5 ..
> > >
> > >regards/appreciations/much graciousnessess
> > >
> > >jonathan
> >
> > You need to have in /etc/mail/mailertable:
> > .caamora.com.au esmpt:mail.caamora.com.au
> > and rebuild mailertable.db
>
>should not the "esmpt:" rather be "esmtp:" most of teh literature that
>i have read recently says it the esmtp way .. i live with dsylexia
>amongst other neurological disabilities and need to double/triple/add a
>few more time to check things before i am confident of success (not
>failing) based on 'spelling' alone.
Yes, I must have a typo in my reply, sorry.
> > In /etc/mail/domaintable:
> > mail.caamora.com.au
> > and rebuild domaintable.db
>
>i used to run a uucp mail service for several clients back in teh
>fidonet days (internet to fidonet gateway) and this made sence then,
>now i fali to understand the need .. i just do not know and would
>appreciate a bit of an explanation please ..
>
>mail.caamora.com.au is an alias (in the dns file and /etc/hosts) for
>the machine seaholm.caamora.com.au which is the primary mailserver for
>the domain .caamora.com.au ... is not tthe domaintable used to remap an
>old domain to a new domain name after some soprt of a change or to use
>names in 'rule 3' mappings .. if i have missunderstood my readings i
>apoloise, i am new to sendmail fiddlings, i set it up ten years ago and
>it worked i now have to relearn who and why .. my disabilities have
>gotten a bit worse because of teh medicines i need to take and this
>makes learning a bit on teh harder side .. but not impossible <gentle
>smile>
I "assume" that mail.caamora.com.au is the name the MX record points to,
sendmail and most mail transfer applications strictly use the DNS MX record
to resolve the names, and you need this entry to assure your server "knows"
it is the recipient and sender for that domain. Otherwise it tries to send
the mail elseware and it becomes undeliverable as you had seen in the logs.
>
> > in /etc/mail/local-host-names:
> > caamora.com.au
>
>check, it was done long time ago
>
> > and double check your MX record and /etc/hosts
>
> i looked at my dns files and found a small disaprity from a name
>change about 2 years ago, i made teh change in teh main file but forgot
>to carry it into teh reverse lookup file, grrrr.
>
>as for the MX records they have been much teh same for about 15 years,
>i like long term stability makes for peace of mind <grin>, the down
>side is that when things go wrong like this, it is a nightmare to
>recall what, how did/done way back when the system was built/changed
>last .. makes for lots of work sometimes.
If you update DNS files, be sure to change the serial number in the file so
the new file is propagated.
> > Once that is all done, execute:
> > /etc/rc.sendmail stop
> > wait until all instances die then:
> > /etc/rc.sendmail start
>
>ok .. did teh checks, made teh changes, even the domaintable, though i
>don;t understand how it works, the only thing i don't do as you wrote
>was teh esmpt .. i used teh more popular esmtp ??
That should be fine now.
>apart from fixing teh esmtp mistype i did it all and checked teh mx
>host my dns setup and still its dead in teh water, still defering all
>mail out from this box.
>
>might it have some thing to do with this line in teh sendmail config
>line it is commented out ??
>
>the one reference that i found on teh world wide internet made some
>sort of reference to this being the cause in the linux machine that had
>a similar issue back in 2003 ???
>
># SMTP client options
>#O ClientPortOptions=Family=inet, Address=0.0.0.0
>
>
>what would happen if i uncommented this line in teh sendmail.cf file ?
>
>also, what use are teh sendmail config files that are named
>/etc/mail/host,name.cf
There are multiple instances of sendmail required to be run now. Once uses
submit.cf, and the other uses sendmail.cf Typically you only need to
change the .mc file that is used to build the sendmail.cf file. Typically
you can sue one of the sample freebsd.mc files in /etc/mail as a start to
make the sendmail.cf file.
>when i forst installed freebsd in this machine it built these files and
>since then nothing has touched the two files .. what are they for what
>do they do in teh sendmail hiearchay ??? please ?
There are files installed in /etc/mail as samples and as running
files. However the sendmail.cf installed may need customization for your
settings and any customization you may require. I find it best to always
build a sendmail.cf file, and then test it out.
>this is a really confusing situation, i've got nowhere else to go for
>informations
>
>much appreciations for teh help.
>
>kind regards
If you make DNS or sendmail configurations changes be sure to restart these
services so the new configurations are used.
-Derek
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Steve Bertrand wrote, On 6/12/2008 7:09 PM:
> Steve Bertrand wrote:
>> Dan Nelson wrote:
>
>> I'm off to try it. I've got a system here with a da device. I'll fsck
>> up /etc/fstab, reboot, and report back with the appropriate mountroot>
>> prompt entry...
>
> # cat /etc/fstab
>
> # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass#
> /dev/da0a / ufs rw,noatime 1 1
> md /tmp mfs rw,-s32M,nosuid,noatime
> 0 0
>
> (..snip..)
>
> ..change /etc/fstab to mount root to /dev/ad15a, reboot:
>
> mountroot>
>
> # mountroot>ufs:/dev/da0a {ENTER}
>
> ...machine boots up.
>
> To the OP...if you know what your disk type is, you CAN get it to
> continue to mount root at the mountroot prompt.
>
> Furthering that, you can also fsck and mount your other disk mountpoints
> in order to gain access to your editing binaries.
>
> There is no need to use an external resource to boot the machine from if
> you are already aware that the only thing that got fsck'd up is the
> mountpoints in the fstab (or, like in this case, the file was
> unavailable entirely). The disk structure is still the same, and the
> system can see this with manual intervention.
>
> OP: at the mountroot> prompt, try this: ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
>
> and see if you get anywhere.
>
> Steve
Thanks to Steve, Dan and Andrew for offering suggestions for regaining
access to my box!
I was finally able to mount / from the mountroot> prompt using
"ufs:/dev/aacd0s1a" (this is a Dell PowerEdge server with a SCSI RAID5
array.) Fortunately, there was an "/etc.old directory left over from the
last patch level upgrade I did; that was enough to get the system
booting normally so that I could copy back the former /etc directory
that I had moved at the start of this whole fiasco.
I think I will start retaining electronic and hard-copy fstab files from
my FreeBSD boxes for future reference, as Steve suggested in a later
message.
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I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of
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I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to
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So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 08:31:41PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>
> >the thing with windoze is that you don't have a choice - in fact, until
> >recently you couldn't even have multiple desktops.
>=20
> it's OK. users that REQUIRE lots of graphics etc.. don't usually make use=
=20
> of it. so what's wrong with windoze. right software for the right people.
>=20
> >with *nix and the creativity inspired by open source there are many,
> >many opportunities.
>=20
> in unix - as you say - you have a choice in every place. so that's good=
=20
> that "desktop usage" isn't "improved" in FreeBSD as this improvement =3D=
=3D=20
> lack of choice.
>=20
> for those who don't like to "hack the system", just have everything just=
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> put up and ready to use, there is already windows!
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> I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of
> course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like
> to restore the freeBSD bootloader.
>
> I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to
> mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the
> freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the
> changes to the disk.
>
> So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could
> install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from
> windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just
> places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine.
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At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote:
> I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of
>course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like
>to restore the freeBSD bootloader.
>
> I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to
>mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the
>freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the
>changes to the disk.
>
> So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could
>install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from
>windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just
>places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine.
>
> Any help would be most welcome...
>
>--
>Lionel
Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy. Booteasy
will run from Windows and install the boot loader. It will also save the
old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety.
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Bruce Cran wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
>> kernel mode
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor
>> read, page not present
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer =
>> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
>> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel:
>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
>> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp)
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
>>
>>
>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD
>> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
>
> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when
> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
>
It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
Kris
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I'm sure. I could get different RAM this weekend, but that just makes me
angry. I bought all the items from recommended lists on NewEgg two weeks
ago. This is probably the 11th crash in 12 days.
>
> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
>
> Kris
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[Don't top-post, please.]
>> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> writes:
> I'm sure. I could get different RAM this weekend, but that just makes
> me angry. I bought all the items from recommended lists on NewEgg two
> weeks ago. This is probably the 11th crash in 12 days.
Buying good hardware improves your odds a lot, but failures can still happen.
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 06:46:13PM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Lionel <lionel.flandrin@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> > I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of
> > course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like
> > to restore the freeBSD bootloader.
> >=20
> > I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to
> > mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the
> > freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the
> > changes to the disk.
> >=20
> > So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could
> > install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from
> > windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just
> > places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine.
>=20
> 3.8 in http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/install.html
>=20
> --=20
> Sahil Tandon <sahil@tandon.net>
Indeed, fdisk(8) can be used to do this.
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Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> > for those who don't like to "hack the system", just have everything
> > just put up and ready to use, there is already windows!
>
> . . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something
> else
>
i agree. i was rather amused when a friend told me recently she had gone
over to mac from xp and started raving about having discovered multiple
desktops. i told her i was happy for her and added that i did know what
these things were since we've had them for years in *nix.
in answer to Wojciech's "... there is already windows!", i don't think
there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95
and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and
required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X).
however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot
more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety,
more limited software then they can certainly find what they are
looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up.
--
In friendship,
prad
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Gilles wrote:
> Hello
>
> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
I wrote a lame-ass script to do this:
$ more /home/chris/bin/findport
#!/bin/sh
#
# Find a port whose name contains the string supplied as argument
#
prev_dir=`pwd`
cd /usr/ports
#
make search key=$1 | grep Path | grep -v deps | grep -i $1
#
cd $prev_dir
HTH.
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On 6/13/08, Chris Hill <chris@monochrome.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Gilles wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
>> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
>> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
>
Have you looked into the whereis(1) command?
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Modulok wrote:
> On 6/13/08, Chris Hill <chris@monochrome.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Gilles wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Currently, to find where a software is located under /usr/ports/, I
>>> rune the "find" command. Is there a database that I could query
>>> instead so that it gives out the whole path to that the application?
>>>
>
> Have you looked into the whereis(1) command?
> -Modulok-
>
>
there is alot of differents ways to search for a port that you are
looking for. My first suggestion would be to read this article from the
freebsd handbook;
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-finding-applications.html
.
Some people enjoy using some websites to do their searches since they
value that more information can be used to search.
Here are some of the sites :
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/
http://www.freshports.org/
http://www.freebsdsoftware.org/
These are ones that come to me as I am writing this, they're are most
likely several other websites that will give you some similar
information such as these.
I would suggest that you refer to the handbook when you ask yourself
questions concerning the operating system. The handbook is a great
reference that I even use quite often myself when I am in doubt on a
certain subject.
Pascal S. Clermont
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Tore Lund <tl32@next.online.no> wrote:
> Novembre wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Tore Lund <tl32@next.online.no>
> > I'm sorry, but I didn't quite get it. Do you mean that if I
> > subscribe to the newsgroup which mirrors the list, and if I answer
> > the question in the newsgroup, then it will be shown properly in
> > the freebsd mailing lists as well? I mean, is the mirroring one way
> > or both-ways?
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> The mirroring is one-way only. What I do in Thunderbird is to hit
> "Reply to All", delete the address lines beginning with "muc*" and add
> the address line "To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org".
gmane.org offers many mailing lists via its news.gmane.org server and
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Camilo Reyes <camiloreyes82@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately after updating my portsnap; it did not work. Here is the
> error I get:
>
> $ firefox
> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0
>
> System error?:: Unknown error: 0
> $ firefox
> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: SendRequest: Read of ack failed: 0
>
> System error?:: Unknown error: 0
>
> It's interesting to note that you don't have to download the tzupdater
> tool from Java (which requires you to create an account with their
> site). In order to avoid getting that file just edit the Makefile
> prior to running make.
You don't have to do that, it's an option, just do a make config and
deselect it.
If you are trying to to get the browser plugin to work, it probably
wont. The diablo java ports are precompiled binaries, currently built
against FreeBSD 6, and this is one of the few cases where compat6x
doesn't help. You need to build java from source e.g. with java/jdk15.
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Subject: Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic
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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Bruce Cran wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
>> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>>
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
>>> kernel mode
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = supervisor
>>> read, page not present
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer =
>>> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
>>> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel:
>>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
>>> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp)
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD
>>> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
>>
>> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See
>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
>> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when
>> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
>> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
>>
>
> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
>
> Kris
>
It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts?
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> PEople,
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> After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql.
> I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from
> 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured.
>
> Cann anybody clue me in?
>
> thanks much,
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Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql.
> I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from
> 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured.
What notes? What fails and how? Show error output and logs.
> Cann anybody clue me in?
Only if you provide background, a better description of the problem and the
steps you've taken to troubleshoot it. When seeking help on this list, you
should follow this advice:
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http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:56:56AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> > After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql.
> > I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from
> > 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured.
>
> What notes? What fails and how? Show error output and logs.
>
> > Cann anybody clue me in?
>
> Only if you provide background, a better description of the problem and the
> steps you've taken to troubleshoot it. When seeking help on this list, you
> should follow this advice:
I've read Greg's advice page; I did google for instructions OR
tutorial on installling phpbb2 , freebsd
and foundnothing helpful. Since I did create the mysql lines,
my'03 notes suggested tha it was timeto point my browser at the
BBS. aristotle is a jail without X so I used lynx.
The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was
installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/
Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www
Below is what happened with lynx.
p4 22:05 <Jail:: aristotle> [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/
404 Not Found
Not Found
The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server.
gary
PS: Last time I was using apache13. I don't understand very much
about apache22. But looks like I'd better get busy... .
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Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....]
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 12:56:56AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
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> > After a long time, I've got phpbb configured into mysql.
> > I've downloaded phpBB2 and installed it. My notes from
> > 2003 fail here; it may be because my apache-2 isn't configured.
>
> What notes? [ ... ]
Appended are my original notes.
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STAGE 1
/*
* mysql instruuctions
*/
STAGE 2 -- APACHE
# cd /usr/ports/www/apache13/ && make install clean
***downloads and installs apache***
STAGE 3 -- MOD_PHP4
# cd /usr/ports/lang/php4/ && make install clean
list of things i enable for php:
GD2 bzip2 cracklib mcrypt mhash pdflib IMAP GDBM OpenSSL SNMP XML FTP
CURL gettext iconv recode pspell BCMath mcve sockets
zlib and MySQL should already be selected, but DEFINITELY select them if
they are not. One probably doesn't need any of the above options to run
phpBB... I just like this set in case I use php for other things in the
future.
because we enabled snmp it stops to asks some questions while compiling
those libraries. i just took the defaults without deviation...
***downloads and installs mod_php4***
STAGE 4 -- PHPBB
# cd /usr/ports/www/phpbb/ && make install
# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh start
apache#
open browser now and point to "http://localhost/phpBB2/"
fill in the following values according to the db we set up earlier:
Database Server Hostname / DSN: localhost
Your Database Name: phpbb
Database Username: phpbb_user
Database Password: XXXXXXXXX (starred out, of course) // was "bbuser"
Admin Email Address: my@real.addreSS
Domain Name: hostname.real.address (if you do not have a valid dns name,
it is very important that you use your IP address here
instead of a fake DNS entry. phpBB creates it's page links
dynamically with the value you enter here.
Server Port: 80
Script path: /phpBB2/
Administrator Username: Administrator
Administrator Password: adminpass (starred out again...)
Administrator Password [ Confirm ]: adminpass
click "Submit" and on the next page click "Finish"
then back to the console...
# cd /usr/local/www/data/phpBB2/
# rm -rf install/
the web install says to make sure to remove /install and /contrib, but i
didn't find any /contrib directory in the version of phpbb that installed?
guess we'll ignore that...
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Subject: Two xorg-server packages?
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I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of mine, and
I'm not sure why. With one of them, there's no problem:
xorg-server-1.4_10,1 =3D up-to-date with port=20
One of them won't upgrade:
xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.99.903_2,1)=
=20
** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap:
is outdated
** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
- x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE)
=2E . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable:
Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1
Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities.
Reference:
<http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/fe2b6597-c9a4-11dc-8da8-0008a18a9=
961.html>
Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package? It appears to be
nothing but an older version. Should I remove it, or figure out how to
upgrade it? Is it actually just an older version of the same package, or
is it a different/separate package entirely?
Any help figuring this out would be appreciated.
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Ryan Coleman wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> Bruce Cran wrote:
>>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
>>> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in
>>>> kernel mode
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address = 0x0
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code =
>>>> supervisor read, page not present
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0x0
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer =
>>>> 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
>>>> pointer = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel:
>>>> code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags = interrupt
>>>> enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process = 925 (cp)
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number = 12
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
>>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD
>>>> 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
>>>
>>> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See
>>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html
>>>
>>> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when
>>> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
>>> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
>>>
>>
>> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
>>
>> Kris
>>
>
> It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts?
Anyone? I'm going to have to disable the dump as I need the machine to
come back up if possible.
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:24:07 -0500
Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
> Ryan Coleman wrote:
> > Kris Kennaway wrote:
> >> Bruce Cran wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
> >>> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while
> >>>> in kernel mode
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1; apic id =3D 01
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address =3D 0x0
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code =3D=20
> >>>> supervisor read, page not present
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer =3D
> >>>> 0x20:0x0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer
> >>>> =3D 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
> >>>> pointer =3D 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2
> >>>> kernel: code segment =3D base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type
> >>>> 0x1b Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: =3D DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1,
> >>>> gran 1 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags =3D
> >>>> interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL =3D 0
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process =3D 925
> >>>> (cp) Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number =3D 12
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid =3D 1
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
> >>>> Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device
> >>>> defined.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new
> >>>> fBSD 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
> >>>
> >>> To be of any use we need a backtrace. See=20
> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.h=
tml=20
> >>>
> >>> for details. First you need to configure a dump device then when
> >>> the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
> >>> default. You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
> >>>
> >>
> >> It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
> >>
> >> Kris
> >>
> >
> > It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts?
>=20
> Anyone? I'm going to have to disable the dump as I need the machine
> to come back up if possible.
Since it sounds like it's bad hardware, the dump isn't going to
provide any useful information so you may as well disable it until
you can swap out the RAM etc.
--=20
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When did you lastly update your ports tree using any of the different
methods available?
On 6/14/08, Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of mine, and
> I'm not sure why. With one of them, there's no problem:
>
> xorg-server-1.4_10,1 = up-to-date with port
>
> One of them won't upgrade:
>
> xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 < needs updating (port has 1.2.99.903_2,1)
>
> ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap:
> is outdated
> ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
> - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE)
>
> . . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable:
>
> Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1
> Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities.
> Reference:
>
> <http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/fe2b6597-c9a4-11dc-8da8-0008a18a9961.html>
>
> Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package? It appears to be
> nothing but an older version. Should I remove it, or figure out how to
> upgrade it? Is it actually just an older version of the same package, or
> is it a different/separate package entirely?
>
> Any help figuring this out would be appreciated.
>
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Gary Kline wrote:
> Cann anybody clue me in?
>
I personally haven't had this problem, but perhaps you can have a peek
at: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-449946.html
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>From: Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com>
>Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and
>dns for hosts.
>Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers
>are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.
Thanks for the suggestion. Those files already exist with valid
entries though. In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem
as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP
numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet.
It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as
every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
or at least some way of approaching the problem.
thanks
ed
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> in answer to Wojciech's "... there is already windows!", i don't think
> there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95
> and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and
> required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X).
there is nothing wrong in any product as long as it's sold with normal
free marked rules, and nobody is forced using it.
And that's the true problem with windows - that it is forced. for example
- using our taxpayers money - it's in every school's computer and children
have no choice but have their brain washed.
but it's OT.
>
> however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot
> more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety,
> more limited software then they can certainly find what they are
> looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up.
it's not "more limited software", it's more limited from our point of
view.
from their point of view unix is limited, because you can't just click
"install" and get cool colourfull icons and windows.
And LET IT BE THAT WAY. so please do not "improve" FreeBSD in that aspect.
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> . . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something
> else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of "coolness"
> in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to
> actually express any personal preferences during setup.
so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is.
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ends with this at linking:
__sync_sub_and_fetch_4'
manager.o(.text+0x1c09): In function `accept_thread':
/usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1118:
undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'
manager.o(.text+0x4b5c): In function `action_waitevent':
/usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1164:
undefined reference to `__sync_sub_and_fetch_4'
manager.o(.text+0x6e8c): In function `generic_http_callback':
/usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1118:
undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'
anyone know where these __sync_* functions are?
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Edward Lay wrote:
>> From: Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com>
>
> It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
> problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
> address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as
> every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
> in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
> where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
> or at least some way of approaching the problem.
>
netmask?
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Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com> writes:
> At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote:
>
> I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of
> course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like
> to restore the freeBSD bootloader.
>
> I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to
> mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the
> freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the
> changes to the disk.
>
> So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could
> install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from
> windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just
> places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine.
>
> Any help would be most welcome...
>
> --
> Lionel
>
> Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy.
> Booteasy will run from Windows and install the boot loader. It will
> also save the old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety.
>
> -Derek
Ah, thank you and all those who answered me, really helpful. I'm going
to try this right away.
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Subject: Re: [OT]Change font for aterm
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Thank you, I am trying 14 and 16 pix to find one suits me :)
2008/6/11 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39:21PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>>
>> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
>> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 2008/6/8 Frank Shute <frank@shute.org.uk>:
>> >> > On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear All,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by chang=
e
>> >> >> the configure in the menu.
>> >> >> Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can see it by fc-list:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [3:39pm:kemian] ~> fc-list | grep "Sans Mono"
>> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DBold
>> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DOblique
>> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DBold Oblique
>> >> >> Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DRoman
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I add entry in .Xresources:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Aterm*font: xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=3DRoman
>> >> >
>> >> > Use:
>> >> >
>> >> > Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ mono-medium-r-normal-=
-16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
>> >> >
>> >> > in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> aterm still complain can not find this font.
>> >>
>> >> > Then:
>> >> >
>> >> > $ xrdb -load
>> >
>> > Sorry. should have been:
>> >
>> > $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
>> >
>> >>
>> >> This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happe=
ned.
>> >> I have to Ctrl+C to stop it.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
>> >> >
>> >> > $ xlsfonts | less
>> >>
>> >> This did not give the output of "bitstream vera sans mono".
>> >
>> > Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist?
>> >
>> > If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the
>> > instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X.
>> >
>> > If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so:
>> >
>> > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"
>> >
>> > under the "Files" section. Restart X.
>> >
>> > X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up & your font will be used for
>> > aterm.
>> >
>> > xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>>
>> Thanks a lot, it works.
>> There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it come=
s out.
>> Another thing is, it did not recognize the "\ " to space, the " " will w=
ork.
>> The font line I am using is:
>> Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans
>> mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1
>>
>> Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works.
>
> Hi Kemian,
>
> I'm glad you got it working.
>
> To change the size of the font, you want to change the the first 0 in
> the line to the font size you require in pixels. E.g: I use:
>
> -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859=
-15
>
> for a 16px font. I like it big!
>
> You can test it beforehand by using xfd (in ports if not already
> installed) i.e:
>
> $ xfd -fn "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono\
> -medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15"
>
> Use iso8859-15 if you want =80 (the euro) in your character set.
>
>>
>> Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days.
>>
>
> No worries. I assumed you'd got it to work.
>
>> --
>> Best wishes,
>> Kemian
>
> Regards,
>
> --
>
> Frank
>
>
> Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html
>
>
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Best wishes,
Kemian
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fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com ha scritto:
> Hi all,
>
> I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:
>
> T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB
> nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled),
> Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c
> Li-Ion,
I have a T61, T7100, 1GB RAM, integrated graphics, 3945ABG...
>
> My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm
> from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling
> and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD.
> I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or
> another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.
>
> My questions are:
> 1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW,
> wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.
>
There are some problems with the 3945 wifi driver (wpi) but it works
under 7-STABLE. If you have 4965AGN you need iwn driver which is only (i
think) in -CURRENT (8.0)
> 2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux
> Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many
> commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux
> binary compatibility stable enough for work ?
>
> Thanks a lot.
I run Matlab (maybe R14SP3 or something similar) under FreeBSD 7-STABLE
on this laptop with linux_base-fc4.
I use i386 and not x64
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Hello Stanislav,
Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote:
> Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller:
Is it MSI mobo by any cnance?
I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or
fxp(4) attached to these) with an
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> Edward Lay wrote:
>>> From: Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com>
>> It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
>> problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
>> address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as
>> every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet
>> and
>> in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
>> where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause
>> this
>> or at least some way of approaching the problem.
>
> netmask?
>
> Peter
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I sometimes have to add a route. To t
Rc.conf or manually to /route/
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Edward Lay wrote:
>> From: Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com>
>>
>
>
>> Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and
>> dns for hosts.
>>
>
>
>> Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers
>> are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.
>>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Those files already exist with valid
> entries though. In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem
> as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP
> numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet.
>
> It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
> problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
> address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as
> every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
> in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
> where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
> or at least some way of approaching the problem.
>
> thanks
>
> ed
>
>
There are 3 things that need to be configured in order to have a network
connection on an initial start, the IP, Gateway and Route.
I am ruling out the fact that it might be the firewall, cause you state
that this on an an initial install and I would try another ether cable
if after this setup it still doesn't work.
make sure both these entry are in your rc.conf :
ifconfig_vr0="inet 192.168.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="192.168.0.1"
You will need to replace "vr0" by your network card, and replace all IPs
for your own. if you modify the settings in the rc.conf you can execute
/etc/netstart in order for the settings to take effect.
Pascal S. Clermont
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Dear Daniel,
Yes, you're right:
Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: MS-7368
Version: 1.0
Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
UUID: Not Present
Wake-up Type: Power Switch
SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Thank you very much!
Kind Regards
2008/6/14 Daniel Gerzo <danger@freebsd.org>:
> Hello Stanislav,
>
> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote:
>
>> Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller:
>
> Is it MSI mobo by any cnance?
> I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or
> fxp(4) attached to these) with an
>
> Base Board Information
> Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
> Product Name: MS-7368
> Version: 1.0
>
> I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware
> issue....
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Edward Lay wrote:
>> From: Derek Ragona <derek@computinginnovations.com>
>
>> Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and
>> dns for hosts.
>
>> Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers
>> are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. Those files already exist with valid
> entries though. In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem
> as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP
> numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet.
>
> It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
> problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
> address, I get no answer. Now I know the gateway is functioning as
> every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
> in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
> where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
> or at least some way of approaching the problem.
Do you have access to the gateway? If so, can you ping the new machine
from there? If not, check the arp table on the gateway to see if your
new machine has shown up. Check that 128.32.157.5/32 routes the same
place as the rest of the /24.
Only things I can think of that haven't already been covered are
firewalling on the gateway, a rogue route for the /32 on the gateway,
and the arp table on the gateway being locked down or having a static
entry (or really, really long expire times) for the IP address you've
given newdewey. Ordinarily I'd worry that you had a longer netmask on
the gateway than on your new machine, but with dewey at .3 (which works,
yes?), newdewey at .5, and the gateway at .1, this would be hard to
arrange.
--Jon Radel
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Be careful with hetzner.de hosting, here is their answer:
The controller is compatible with the mainboard. With linux there are no
problems. FreeBSD is also not officially supported by us (only
Debian/Ubuntu/Suse).
Sorry, but it is not possible to buy a new model only for a few customers.
2008/6/14 Stanislav <stanislav@corp.n9.ru>:
> Dear Daniel,
>
> Yes, you're right:
> Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
> System Information
> Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
> Product Name: MS-7368
> Version: 1.0
> Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
> UUID: Not Present
> Wake-up Type: Power Switch
> SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
> Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
>
> Thank you very much!
>
> Kind Regards
>
> 2008/6/14 Daniel Gerzo <danger@freebsd.org>:
>> Hello Stanislav,
>>
>> Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller:
>>
>> Is it MSI mobo by any cnance?
>> I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or
>> fxp(4) attached to these) with an
>>
>> Base Board Information
>> Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
>> Product Name: MS-7368
>> Version: 1.0
>>
>> I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware
>> issue....
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org
>>
>>
>
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As you've probably read in my previous posts I'm having issues, most
likely with the RAM.
How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring I'd
drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp -rvn
commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB RAID5.
Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with gpt (1
large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there another way? A
better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure the speed of reading
from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies.
TIA,
Ryan
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Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was
> installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/
> Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www
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> Below is what happened with lynx.
>
> p4 22:05 <Jail:: aristotle> [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/
> 404 Not Found
> Not Found
>
> The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server.
What do your apache logs say about this? Look for an error associated with
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configured to make that location available?
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Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
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>
> anyone know where these __sync_* functions are?
Do you set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf? There has been some discussion about
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:45:20AM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> As you've probably read in my previous posts I'm having issues, most=20
> likely with the RAM.
>=20
> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring I'd=20
> drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp -rvn=20
> commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB RAID5.
Use sysutils/memtest86
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I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately
but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're
willing to share (as am I).
This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit
cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have
anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of
fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from
scratch?
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> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing?
I use Memtest86 to test memory:
http://www.memtest86.com/
HTH,
David
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> but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're
> willing to share (as am I).
>
> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit
> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have
> anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD I
> should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch?
6.3 supports 64-bit. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html
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Ryan Coleman wrote:
> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately
> but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're
> willing to share (as am I).
>
> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit
> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have
> anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of
> fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from
> scratch?
6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with
the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards
compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your
problems.
Kris
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Kris Kennaway wrote:
> Ryan Coleman wrote:
>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well
>> lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and
>> you're willing to share (as am I).
>>
>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a
>> 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might
>> this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit
>> version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or
>> should I go from scratch?
>
> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par
> with the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards
> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your
> problems.
>
> Kris
But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again?
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately but
> there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're willing to
> share (as am I).
>
> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit cpu,
> but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have anything to
> do with the crashes?
you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance, but
32-bit version should work fine too.
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Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately
>>> but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're
>>> willing to share (as am I).
>>>
>>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit
>>> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have
>>> anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD
>>> I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch?
>>
>> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with
>> the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards
>> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your
>> problems.
>>
>> Kris
>
> But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again?
An upgrade may be possible, but a new installation is "recommended". Search
the archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/ for context.
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Thanks everyone!
I'm going to do a fresh install to a new drive that I am picking up in
an hour or so from a local retailer.
--
Ryan
Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>
>
>> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately
>>>> but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're
>>>> willing to share (as am I).
>>>>
>>>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit
>>>> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have
>>>> anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD
>>>> I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch?
>>>>
>>> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with
>>> the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards
>>> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your
>>> problems.
>>>
>>> Kris
>>>
>> But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again?
>>
>
> An upgrade may be possible, but a new installation is "recommended". Search
> the archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/ for context.
>
>
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works. thank you very much!
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>
>> undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'
>>
>> anyone know where these __sync_* functions are?
>
> Do you set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf? There has been some discussion about
> this before; check the archives for some commonly suggested solutions.
>
> --
> Sahil Tandon <sahil@tandon.net>
>
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> Thanks everyone!
>
> I'm going to do a fresh install to a new drive that I am picking up
> in an hour or so from a local retailer.
If this is a server than you almost certainly should go with the 64 bit
version. If it's for a desktop then I would suggest you search the
list for the pros and cons - I'm not going to go into them, it's been
done to death.
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Ryan Coleman wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
>> Ryan Coleman wrote:
>>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well
>>> lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and
>>> you're willing to share (as am I).
>>>
>>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a
>>> 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might
>>> this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit
>>> version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or
>>> should I go from scratch?
>>
>> 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par
>> with the 32-bit version. Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards
>> compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your
>> problems.
>>
>> Kris
> But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go
> again?
Easiest thing is to reinstall. I wouldn't bother until you have fixed
your hardware though -- you'll just be wasting your time.
Kris
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:48:10AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >. . . but you'd still get a "cooler" desktop by going with something
> >else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of "coolness"
> >in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to
> >actually express any personal preferences during setup.
>=20
> so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is.
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> When did you lastly update your ports tree using any of the different
> methods available?
I run `portsnap fetch update` (among other things) almost daily, and did
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Ryan Coleman wrote:
>
>> I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well
>> lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and
>> you're willing to share (as am I).
>>
>> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a
>> 64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this
>> have anything to do with the crashes?
>
> you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance
This is workload-dependent. Some workloads run more slowly on a 64-bit
CPU, others faster.
Kris
>, but
> 32-bit version should work fine too.
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We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is
used for automation. Several systems can talk to each other via
ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold
passwords.
Last night, an account that has been working for years
suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a
password.
I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I
can't figure out what.
The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although
today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't
work on this one system but work on all others.
There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing
I thought of) since the account is several years old.
All other accounts on this same system with public keys
from their remote partners still work fine.
The ownership and permissions look right on the account
directory.
Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?
I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the
usual password which you can't do on an expired account.
I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset
the password to itself and that didn't change anything.
Many thanks for other suggestions.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Martin McCormick <martin@dc.cis.okstate.edu> wrote:
> All other accounts on this same system with public keys
> from their remote partners still work fine.
>
> The ownership and permissions look right on the account
> directory.
>
how about on the client computer? for instance, id_rsa is supposed to
be 600. the ownership should be set for the account on .ssh and
authorized_keys.
> Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?
>
we had only one problem getting a mac to log in which was strange. the
client generated the id_rsa.pub and id_rsa keys. it wouldn't work - and
apparently all the permissions were set correctly at both ends.
so we did the whole thing from scratch again - and this time it worked.
conclusion: the system is picky about the rsa key. :D :D
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At 01:02 PM 6/14/2008, Martin McCormick wrote:
> We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is
>used for automation. Several systems can talk to each other via
>ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold
>passwords.
>
> Last night, an account that has been working for years
>suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a
>password.
>
> I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I
>can't figure out what.
>
> The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although
>today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't
>work on this one system but work on all others.
>
> There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing
>I thought of) since the account is several years old.
>
> All other accounts on this same system with public keys
>from their remote partners still work fine.
>
> The ownership and permissions look right on the account
>directory.
>
> Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?
>
> I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the
>usual password which you can't do on an expired account.
>
> I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset
>the password to itself and that didn't change anything.
>
> Many thanks for other suggestions.
>
>Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
>Systems Engineer
>OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
If you upgraded one system to a new major version (sometimes point releases
will cause a problem too) the system will regenerate its keys, so you need
to then propagate the new keys. Other than that, if you have a drive error
causing the key files to not be readable is the only other time I've seen
this problem.
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>> you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance
>
> This is workload-dependent. Some workloads run more slowly on a 64-bit CPU,
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could you please give an example of slower running FreeBSD/amd64 thing
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there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid
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Martin McCormick wrote:
> We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is
> used for automation. Several systems can talk to each other via
> ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold
> passwords.
>
> Last night, an account that has been working for years
> suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a
> password.
>
> I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I
> can't figure out what.
>
> The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although
> today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't
> work on this one system but work on all others.
>
> There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing
> I thought of) since the account is several years old.
>
> All other accounts on this same system with public keys
> from their remote partners still work fine.
>
> The ownership and permissions look right on the account
> directory.
>
> Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?
>
> I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the
> usual password which you can't do on an expired account.
>
> I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset
> the password to itself and that didn't change anything.
>
> Many thanks for other suggestions.
cat /var/log/auth.log ?
--per
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Hi guys,
Today i was on my Freebsd6.1 logged from my notebook through SSH...somehow i
lost my Internet connection on my laptop; i realized that, cause i couldnt
type anything on ssh so i checked and i had lost internet connection....I
reset my router..connect through Internet, now working, to my BSD again and
i can see the old connections as ESTABLISHED.....They are hanged there cause
of the loss of my connection i guess....So my doubt and question was;
Is this normal behaviour, who is "in charge" of managing this? the TCP
stack, or can i config SSH...If someone who's got the time and willing to
explain, share thoughts about this, i ll be grateful...
Cheers,
Agustin
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>>
>>> you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance
>>
>> This is workload-dependent. Some workloads run more slowly on a
>> 64-bit CPU, others faster.
> could you please give an example of slower running FreeBSD/amd64 thing
> than FreeBSD/i386?
>
> there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid
> binary on 64-bit systems
Precisely that. If your application relies on memory I/O, it may run
slower because data is typically bigger so takes longer to copy. Some
java applications can fall into this category, for example.
Kris
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Subject: Re: 64-bit?
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>> there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid binary
>> on 64-bit systems
>
> Precisely that. If your application relies on memory I/O, it may run slower
> because data is typically bigger so takes longer to copy. Some java
> applications can fall into this category, for example.
>
> Kris
>
>
thanks. i don't know if squid runs slower (it consumes little CPU anyway)
but 64-bit version takes 30% more RAM
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Per olof Ljungmark writes:
> cat /var/log/auth.log ?
Thank you! This makes me feel down-right stupid. It
just slipped my mind. I've kind of gotten out of the habit of
looking at auth.log since we put the system in question behind a
firewall and it is not accessible from the general Internet any
more.
sshd[1746]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory
/usr/home/automation
I said that the ownership looked okay for that
directory. It needed to be 755 so everybody on the system in
question can at least look at files in it. Somehow, yesterday or
the day before, I accidentally had it set to 775 which is not
good. I think I remember realizing I was in the wrong directory,
once, and that may have been when I did it.
sshd and sendmail will both refuse to operate on files
that are writable by other than the owner. I had looked at those
permissions several times and the fact that it was
drwxrwxr-x instead of drwxr-xr-x
hadn't sunk in yet.
Many thanks.
Martin
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Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....]
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:48:16AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
> Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
>
> > The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was
> > installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/
> > Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www
> >
> > Below is what happened with lynx.
> >
> > p4 22:05 <Jail:: aristotle> [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/
> > 404 Not Found
> > Not Found
> >
> > The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server.
>
> What do your apache logs say about this? Look for an error associated with
> trying to find this phpBB2 location. Does it exist? Is your httpd.conf
> configured to make that location available?
>
ah, good point! hadn't thought of checing the error log.
Below is the entry from 11june08. (10.47.0.250 == my jail,
aristotle.) what to i add to httpd.conf? sorry, but
i'veforgotten if i needed to had to set up my three phpbb
forms as "virtual pages" {or whatever} ; also there are
diffs between apacche13 and apache22. my lan volunteer set
up apache22 when my network collapsed lastt winter and i
did not watch.
Hm. The virtual sites have been moved to the apache22 subdir
./Includes/httpd-local.conf.
<Directory /usr/local/www/jottings>
AllowOverride None
Order Allow,deny
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</Directory>
<Directory /usr/local/www/bsd>
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</Directory>
<Directory /usr/local/www/philosophy>
AllowOverride None
Order Allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
.....
so, doi set up myphpbb[23] here??
==== you know, i shoull have but didn't have a copy of my
original httpd.conf. well, live && learn.
~
p4 13:17 <Jail:: aristotle> [2683] gr phpbb error.log
/var/log/httpd
32327:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:18 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does
not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb
32328:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:42 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does
not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb3
> --
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> is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending mail
> from list of four in random or round-robin way?
What problem are you trying to solve? And this really is a question for the
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Subject: Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....]
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Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> wrote:
> <Directory /usr/local/www/jottings>
> AllowOverride None
> Order Allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
>
> <Directory /usr/local/www/bsd>
> AllowOverride None
> Order Allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
>
> <Directory /usr/local/www/philosophy>
> AllowOverride None
> Order Allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
>
>
> .....
>
>
> so, doi set up myphpbb[23] here??
Perhaps.
> 32327:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:18 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does
> not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb
That seems pretty clear to me. Apache is looking for phpbb in
/usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb, where it does not exist. Fix that or
configure apache to look in the appropriate location.
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Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending=20
> mail from list of four in random or round-robin way?
Not easily. sendmail(8) defaults to binding to all IPs on the machine
(INADDR_ANY) and the IP it will use to send with will just be whatever
would be the default from the routing table to reach the destination.
You can control what interfaces sendmail will listen on by using the
DAEMON_OPTIONS() macro in /etc/mail/$(hostname).mc and you can
set what IP number the machine will use as the origin address using
the CLIENT_OPTIONS() macro. However, CLIENT_OPTIONS() doesn't give
you any method of cycling through multiple IP numbers.
What could you do? Run four instances of sendmail in different jails
as outgoing mail relays, each bound to a different IP. Supposing your
server is called 'smtp.your.dom.ain' then you can make that an A record
which returns those 4 different IP numbers. Clients looking the server
up in the DNS will get a randomised list of IPs (or round-robin,
depending on the configuration of the DNS servers you're using).
Alternatively you can use one instance of sendmail and do NAT tricks
to rewrite the packets on the way out of the firewall. See http://www.op=
enbsd.org/faq/pf/nat.html and the 'NAT LOAD BALANCE' example
in pf.conf(5). Note however that you should take care to ensure that
the hostname your MTA helos as matches whatever IP or IPs are ultimately
used in the connection to the other MTA, or your message may well be
refused as likely to be spam.
There are also recipes I've seen on the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup
for running sendmail with multiple virtual identities depending on the
sender address of the e-mail, which isn't exactly what you asked for
but might be good enough.
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> This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit
> cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have
All AMD & Intel "x86" processors made in the last several years have the
traditional x86 32 bit instruction set, as well as AMD's 64 bit set.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
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>> from list of four in random or round-robin way?
>
> What problem are you trying to solve? And this really is a question for the
i have 3 different links to ISP all are ADSL's so outgoing bandwidth is
low, i would like to spread the load generated by outgoing mails.
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> What could you do? Run four instances of sendmail in different jails
> as outgoing mail relays, each bound to a different IP. Supposing your
that's what i was thinking about, but believed there is smarted method.
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mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with the
async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and vnode
devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system require a write
to a physical disk.
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Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> wrote:
> I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of
> mine, and I'm not sure why. With one of them, there's no problem:
>
> xorg-server-1.4_10,1 = up-to-date with port
>
> One of them won't upgrade:
>
> xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 < needs updating (port has
> 1.2.99.903_2,1)
>
> ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap:
> is outdated
> ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
> - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE)
>
> . . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable:
>
> Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1
> Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities.
> Reference:
> <http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/fe2b6597-c9a4-11dc-8da8-0008a18a9961.html>
>
> Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package? It appears
> to be nothing but an older version. Should I remove it, or figure
> out how to upgrade it? Is it actually just an older version of the
> same package, or is it a different/separate package entirely?
>
> Any help figuring this out would be appreciated.
I would just compile x11-server/xorg-server and once it is done do a
pkg_delete on xorg-server-snap. Then install
xorg-server/xorg-server. What it is complaining about is
x11-servers/xorg-server-snap being marked as to be ignored, which it
should be now as it is a out of date snap shot of xorg-server from
some time back.
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> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
> RAID5.
>
> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure
> the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies.
For something that large, ZFS would be my choice.
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Zane C.B. wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>
>
>> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
>> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
>> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
>> RAID5.
>>
>> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
>> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
>> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure
>> the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies.
>>
>
> For something that large, ZFS would be my choice
I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am not
looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time
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On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:57:49PM -0500, Zane C.B. wrote:
>=20
> I would just compile x11-server/xorg-server and once it is done do a
> pkg_delete on xorg-server-snap. Then install
> xorg-server/xorg-server. What it is complaining about is
> x11-servers/xorg-server-snap being marked as to be ignored, which it
> should be now as it is a out of date snap shot of xorg-server from
> some time back.
Should that be "x11-servers/xorg-server", instead of
"xorg-server/xorg-server"?
=2E . . or are you referring to something else?
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I use a port that no longer is supported thru the regular ports.
p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 Parse text into an array of tokens or array of arrays
** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
- textproc/p5-Text-ParseWords (port directory error)
Have tried to remove it, but then I get the message that there are still
other installed programs are using it.
Would the only possibility be that I excluded it from being update by
adding it to pkgtools.conf or is there another way to correct this?
-- Jos
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David Naylor <naylor.b.david@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Today I read an article describing how my government had lost
> ZAR200 000 000 from fraud. This is just under $25 000 000. The
> article credited this loss largely due to the use of spyware.
>
> My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and
> XFCE) to attacks, including cracking and spyware. In addition, is
> there anyway to prevent a user from executing a program that is not
> owned by root (i.e. any program installed by the user), this would
> prevent spyware being installed (assuming root has been properly
> locked down) and subsequently run.
Ugidfw(8) can be used to help with the executable stuff. The same is
true for using a restricted shell. The important thing is making sure
to make sure the user can't execute any thing other than the few
commands they are suppose to. If allowed access to execute any thing
in a system bin/sbin path, you begin to run into issues with
interpreters, which are as good as being able to execute something
owned by them. You can remove permissions to access them, but that
strikes me as beginning to get a bit hairy in the long run.
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Andrew Berry <andrewberry <at> sentex.net> writes:
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> Hi,
>
> I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is
> working fine except for the OpenVPN server. I had it set up with a
> bridge configuration, but now even with a basic tunnel I can't get
> successful ping across the VPN. I can make a connection from both
> Linux and OS X but neither can actually use the tunnel. Are there any
> changes in 7 which might affect this? Anyone else using OpenVPN on 7.0?
>
> Thanks,
> --Andrew
I have the same exact problem. I upgraded from 6.2-RELEASE to 7.0-RELEASE a
while back, recompiled my installed ports, and since then I have problems with
OpenVPN.
I have a laptop (Windows XP SP2) at home and a desktop (FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE) at
my office in the university. I have installed Samba 3.0.28,1 on my desktop and
created a share. I can access the share from anywhere within the university
network. But our university network is behind a firewall which blocks all
incoming connections except SSH, so I cannot access my Samba share from home.
What I did was to use Putty to SSH to my desktop at office, setup and OpenVPN
client/server on my laptop/desktop computers, and forward all OpenVPN
connections to my desktop through the SSH connection using Putty. Then I could
connect to my Samba server. It used to work before upgrading to 7.0-RELEASE, but
after that I can't access my shares from home. I have confirmed that my Samba
share is working fine by accessing it from another computer in the university
network, so the only culprit is OpenVPN. It connects, but apparently something
is wrong and I can't access my data...
Any ideas?
Thanks...
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> Zane C.B. wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
> > Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
> >> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
> >> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
> >> RAID5.
> >>
> >> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
> >> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
> >> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am
> >> sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's
> >> redundancies.
> >
> > For something that large, ZFS would be my choice
> I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am
> not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time
Not that I am aware of.
My big reason I would go with ZFS is it would make future updates
easier as you can do it on the fly if the disks are just being added
to a system.
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On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:
> I use a port that no longer is supported thru the regular ports.
>
> p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 Parse text into an array of tokens or array of arrays
>
> ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
> - textproc/p5-Text-ParseWords (port directory error)
>
> Have tried to remove it, but then I get the message that there are still
> other installed programs are using it.
>
> Would the only possibility be that I excluded it from being update by adding
> it to pkgtools.conf or is there another way to correct this?
The first step is find out what happened to it. In this case MOVED tells us
this module has moved to core perl. I believe upgrading perl and forcing
package delete will do it. You may have to run pkgdb -F to delete the
dependencies.
You may want to make a note of the packages that depended on it. I believe
they will still work after you upgrade perl, but you can rebuild them after
perl is upgraded if necessary.
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RW wrote:
> mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with the
> async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and vnode
> devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system require a write
> to a physical disk.
Well, for vnode devices it does write to the disk, but that isn't the
point; in both cases you are writing to the filesystem that is mounted
on top of the md, so that will be faster if it is mounted async.
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Zane C.B. wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:11:32 -0500
> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>
>
>> Zane C.B. wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
>>> Ryan Coleman <ryan.coleman@cwis.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
>>>> I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
>>>> -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
>>>> RAID5.
>>>>
>>>> Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
>>>> gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
>>>> another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am
>>>> sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's
>>>> redundancies.
>>>>
>>> For something that large, ZFS would be my choice
>>>
>> I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am
>> not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time
>>
>
> Not that I am aware of.
>
> My big reason I would go with ZFS is it would make future updates
> easier as you can do it on the fly if the disks are just being added
> to a system.
>
Ok, and since I have all 8 ports used on this SATA RAID controller I
won't worry about it.
I reinstalled 6.3-RELEASE for amd64 and I cannot get the DNS client to
work... I can do one lookup and then it stops working. I am sooooo
frustrated.
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Hello FreeBSD,
Saturday, June 14, 2008, 4:38:10 PM, you wrote:
> Be careful with hetzner.de hosting, here is their answer:
> The controller is compatible with the mainboard. With linux there are no
> problems. FreeBSD is also not officially supported by us (only
> Debian/Ubuntu/Suse).
Yea, I know they do not officialy support FreeBSD, unluckily :-(
These interrupt storms are the only problem I have with hetzner.de...
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Hello,
sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various environment
variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find out what they
are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using standard csh and
FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g works except it
seems very slow.
thanks
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Chris Whitehouse writes:
> sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various
> environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I
> find out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find
> them. I'm using standard csh
In that case, try "setenv" with no arguements.
Robert Huff
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From: Jos Chrispijn <jos@webrz.net>
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Lars Eighner wrote:
> The first step is find out what happened to it. In this case MOVED
> tells us
> this module has moved to core perl. I believe upgrading perl and forcing
[-]
Lars, thanks for sharing; I will follow your suggestion. Didn't know
this MOVED thing...
-- Jos