From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 00:10:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B33106567C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from nyi.unixathome.org (nyi.unixathome.org [64.147.113.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB188FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:10:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@nyi.unixathome.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06BAA509D6 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:10:05 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unixathome.org Received: from nyi.unixathome.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (nyi.unixathome.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pErQIVYRxiFk for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:10:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: by nyi.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6E6DA509CE; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081102001002.6E6DA509CE@nyi.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2008-10-12 - 2008-11-01 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:10:07 -0000 The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. 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Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . -- Dan Langille BSDCan - http://www.BSDCan.org/ - BSD Conference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 00:12:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708351065674 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394B68FC19 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KwQa7-0007m6-UJ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:12:41 +1100 Message-ID: <490CF0C9.8080207@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:14:01 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error trying to fetch kdebase-workspace-4.1.3.tar.bz2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:12:43 -0000 Does anyone have s ite where i can manually d/l kdebase-workspace-4.1.3.tar.bz2 as all the addies in the freebsd ports list for the file arent working for myself. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 00:39:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C80106567A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jille@quis.cx) Received: from istud.quis.cx (ip83-113-174-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [82.174.113.83]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B1D8FC19 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jille@quis.cx) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ille [192.168.1.4]) by istud.quis.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id A402C5C18 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:26:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <490B3FB7.9000903@quis.cx> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:26:15 +0100 From: Jille Timmermans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Mounting Sony Ericsson v630i X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:39:59 -0000 Hello list, First of all: Please keep me in To/Cc; I'm not on the list. I am trying to mount my Sony Ericsson v630i telephone; connected with an USB cable. In short: How can I tell FreeBSD to wait for checking the device till I chose for file-transfer-mode ? Or recheck after I had the chance to choose that mode ? Full text: If I plug the cable; dmesg says: ugen0: on uhub1 ugen0: at uhub1 port 2 (addr 2) disconnected ugen0: detached umass0: on uhub1 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device da0: 1.000MB/s transfers da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present At this moment, /dev/da0 exists and it shows up in devlist: [root@istud ~]# camcontrol devlist -v scbus0 on umass-sim0 bus 0: at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,da0) scbus-1 on xpt0 bus 0: < > at scbus-1 target -1 lun -1 (xpt0) [root@istud ~]# camcontrol tur da0 Unit is not ready [root@istud ~]# camcontrol tur da0 Unit is ready (tur always says 'not ready' the first run; and from the second run always 'ready') But; da0s1 doesn't show up I played around with camcontrol and suddenly da0s1 showed up; and I was able to mount it. The problem is that I don't know what to do if I want my da0s1; repeating the same steps (the camcontrol commands I hit in random order) doesn't do the trick. I think the problem lies within the way the telephone works: If I plug the cable, it sees the connection and asks whether I want to transfer files or use 'telephone mode' (be a mode for the computer I think). and it only reveals the filesystem when tansfer-mode is chosen. So how can I tell FreeBSD to wait checking for filesystems etc till I choose transfer-mode ? Or how can I let it do the check again ? I assume he marks the device as useless after not being able to determine the filesystem size. FreeBSD istud.quis.cx 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0 r184077M: Mon Oct 20 16:22:26 CEST 2008 quis@istud.quis.cx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ISTUD amd64 (svn + multi-IP jail patches) -- Jille From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 00:50:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80AEA1065686 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C8F8FC25 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:50:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KwRAe-0000pU-Mh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:50:24 +1100 Message-ID: <490CF9A2.9030204@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 10:51:46 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Error trying to fetch various KDE 4.1.3 files X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:50:26 -0000 Im trying to d/l various packages for KDE4.1.3, but so far none of the mirror sites etc listed seem to have the pakackages for me to build the port, is anyone else having this isue ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 01:50:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746AC1065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149D78FC19 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:50:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1811848rvf.43 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:50:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=sPAhGSgz49FK8Y6wyotiNtHtjP5ilB3mjoU3EkfOadA=; b=CJohxEKBWCmshtxS85hftALawuZLqxUPusaj7VA6nRUXWif6lT3l7ZlRwTl1b/d5h2 9dkP7InSscFZHwF1qEyaPoR/VVU0ZYZnLdWqFhoXh9QtBFlJ8rhC0MHf/pqfx/Hheqfp pA5p+P83vlwBstW2tWUoHY3lXT6t8k1zBPrCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=JHMagignwHyJ7utA9JPdK3VP6rRJKaWpXdW9fWO+KPk6SMcvdt4EioajbHac4q9XoF 4mqbHNqIKUHR2thl2uYoAwQ6dZC/OC5vYddU9Y7N+1PjDmpJRJhDc6N3eWNPh1U1Z4kK Gfb1m121PNTQHDDqPz0aFD59E9/ZB/783xUPI= Received: by 10.142.215.5 with SMTP id n5mr6342430wfg.61.1225588915785; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.18.2 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:21:55 -0700 From: "David Allen" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:50:12 -0000 My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need to use awk to generate a report. I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 ... Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. Thanks! -- David "promising never to do this again" Allen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 02:03:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109021065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCABA8FC0C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Znul1a00W0vp7WLA423mKD; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:03:46 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a23k1a00M2P6wsM8R23kq6; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:03:45 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=4h6gg2VM1-ui3QngywoA:9 a=1JElvEDNCGOe8DxNibGBXcMXRL8A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 564C4C9419; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:03:44 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: David Allen Message-ID: <20081102020344.GA80530@icarus.home.lan> References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:03:47 -0000 On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 06:21:55PM -0700, David Allen wrote: > My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need > to use awk to generate a report. > > I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to > keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, > each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in > columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: > > record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 > record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 > ... > > Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. $ cat input col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 $ cat output.awk { print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " $5 " " $6 " " $7 print $8 " " $9 " " $10 " " $11 " " $12 " " $13 " " $14 } $ cat intput | awk -f output.awk col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 02:43:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900121065670 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797C08FC18 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 02:43:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-67-188-126-36.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.188.126.36]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA22jQrw074621; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 19:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <490D13EA.6000604@rawbw.com> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:43:54 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081001) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> <20081101190520.Y11557@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081101190520.Y11557@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:43:58 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. > > exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these "advanced" users you say > don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few minutes. totally wrong. imagine setting up WiFi network. one mouse click opens WiFi manager window. another double-click selects network to connect. another click closes the window of WiFi manager. How in the world it can be easier to do this with config files ???? >> Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to >> GUI and >> desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested >> development-stage >> software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. > > they try to compete with windoze - so they behave the same way! who > first learned that giving unfinished/buggy/incomplete software to > users is a good (in marketing point of view) thing? > > Microsoft! they learn from it. they try to compete and fail. doesn't matter who did what first. today windoze gui is way more usable than kde4. that's the only thing that matters. if kde4 were a commercial company they would have been fired or go out of business long time ago. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:11:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ED51065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510758FC18 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:11:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0FF19266; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:11:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:11:42 -0700 From: Bruce Cran To: yuri@rawbw.com Message-ID: <20081101211142.5ebb0719@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <490D13EA.6000604@rawbw.com> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> <20081101190520.Y11557@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490D13EA.6000604@rawbw.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:11:52 -0000 On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:43:54 -0700 Yuri wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. > > > > exactly wrong. it make my life harder. these "advanced" users you > > say don't like to read manuals and do once simple config taking few > > minutes. > > totally wrong. imagine setting up WiFi network. one mouse click opens > WiFi manager window. another double-click selects network to connect. > another click closes the window of WiFi manager. How in the world it > can be easier to do this with config files ???? > > >> Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes > >> to GUI and > >> desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested > >> development-stage > >> software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some > >> reason. > > > > they try to compete with windoze - so they behave the same way! who > > first learned that giving unfinished/buggy/incomplete software to > > users is a good (in marketing point of view) thing? > > > > Microsoft! they learn from it. > > they try to compete and fail. doesn't matter who did what first. > today windoze gui is way more usable than kde4. that's the only thing > that matters. > if kde4 were a commercial company they would have been fired or go > out of business long time ago. I think it depends on what you want to do. For developers KDE4 provides all the features you'd want such as smart text editors, a nice terminal and lots of applications. For normal users I'm not so sure a stock KDE4 is so usable; however having recently used Ubuntu and seen what can be done with Gnome, I'm sure KDE can be configured to be just as good. Talking of Ubuntu, I believe it's now almost as easy to use as Windows, and that's for 'normal' users who don't know much about computers. There are some things that are missing: for example if for some reason it fails to automatically setup the monitor then you're kinda stuck, but all the rest works. As an example of its usability I plugged a new printer in and a few seconds later a notification popped up asking me to select settings, paper type etc. That's neat. I took some photos and plugged my SDHC card into a reader: a photo import application popped up and I could nagivate the photos and select which to copy over. It's smarts like these that really make the difference. I consider myself a power user but I do enjoy things like that being done for me, since I would much prefer to spend my time coding instead of hacking config files to import files, get stuff printed etc. Most people I know are moving from Debian to Ubuntu for the same reason - things just work. At the same time, it's nice to know that if anything does start getting in your way it's still easy to change a few settings to turn it off. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:17:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977131065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A29B8FC0A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1931570wfg.7 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:17:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=X+DriBB74vhn6MZuZAiiHD8WfsDDf+QaHtTCrwxlRlc=; b=Mg4IGAIJM0WZbPmmziGCZWsif4tRSGcd9spLesNdeJBLOoNAv1O8X8rcfF/etyDdjv OEkslVowEW+aMRos7rtGm1t5WE4cPLtKkUgiS1SfV/dyGJ6WoWLvnx6IPafunlIL2VQF pj8C1ieyrw421tQi8RKSo6jfhHUtksGeCh7pU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=I6kgDubTwmxMA5A+ioNwVHpDgnJ0+LTu5jVU5VuDwvjUeKuyEueyFfRIB8CYEy9NbT ifOYHOYVhc3g7bCvMfltYo+aCUgNVYJYWXbxZ/em+gN5NXY5ns0h3Q3n4gOtaHUfouLc FAwOXVmKn85knkOSpr/8L46jWBXPV784Soo38= Received: by 10.142.251.9 with SMTP id y9mr6411945wfh.46.1225599474073; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.18.2 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0811012117i5d3f30d3w9ea927679cb5e7b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:17:54 -0800 From: "David Allen" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" In-Reply-To: <20081102020344.GA80530@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102020344.GA80530@icarus.home.lan> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:17:54 -0000 On 11/1/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 06:21:55PM -0700, David Allen wrote: >> My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need >> to use awk to generate a report. >> >> I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to >> keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, >> each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in >> columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: >> >> record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 >> record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 >> ... >> >> Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. > > $ cat input > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 > > $ cat output.awk > { > print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " $5 " " $6 " " $7 > print $8 " " $9 " " $10 " " $11 " " $12 " " $13 " " $14 > } > > $ cat intput | awk -f output.awk > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 > col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 Thanks for the reply, Jeremy, but that approach would require an entirely manual approach, which isn't suitable for what I'm working with. Writing a script that's the same size as the data I'm working with isn't an option. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:31:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019A1106564A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03C68FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:31:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a3Ce1a0050cZkys584WwzP; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:30:56 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a4XK1a0062P6wsM3W4XKJJ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:31:19 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=u0kkRlp3z57mkRhdK70A:9 a=PrBWAYca28jGtBb1_VkIjJgB3-wA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ACAD0C9419; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:31:18 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: David Allen Message-ID: <20081102043118.GA83340@icarus.home.lan> References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102020344.GA80530@icarus.home.lan> <2daa8b4e0811012117i5d3f30d3w9ea927679cb5e7b1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811012117i5d3f30d3w9ea927679cb5e7b1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:31:21 -0000 On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 08:17:54PM -0800, David Allen wrote: > On 11/1/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 06:21:55PM -0700, David Allen wrote: > >> My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need > >> to use awk to generate a report. > >> > >> I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to > >> keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, > >> each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in > >> columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: > >> > >> record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 > >> record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 > >> ... > >> > >> Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. > > > > $ cat input > > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 > > > > $ cat output.awk > > { > > print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " $5 " " $6 " " $7 > > print $8 " " $9 " " $10 " " $11 " " $12 " " $13 " " $14 > > } > > > > $ cat intput | awk -f output.awk > > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 > > col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 > > Thanks for the reply, Jeremy, but that approach would require an > entirely manual approach, which isn't suitable for what I'm working > with. Writing a script that's the same size as the data I'm working > with isn't an option. ;-) I'm confused -- what's the problem? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:38:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF1381065674 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from mail.pattersonsoftware.com (mail.pattersonsoftware.com [121.52.192.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B52C8FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:38:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from localhost (mail [127.0.0.3]) by mail.pattersonsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7F554B7B32 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:37:59 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pattersonsoftware.com Received: from mail.pattersonsoftware.com ([127.0.0.3]) by localhost (mail.pattersonsoftware.com [127.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3tiz6J5zJv50 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:37:54 +1000 (EST) Received: from elegia (60-242-254-180.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.254.180]) by mail.pattersonsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 94C314B7B18 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:37:54 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:37:53 +1000 From: Gary Newcombe To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20081102143753.d1f66ad9.gary@pattersonsoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Patterson Software X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0rc2 (GTK+ 2.12.12; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:38:01 -0000 On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:21:55 -0700, "David Allen" wrote: > My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need > to use awk to generate a report. > > I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to > keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, > each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in > columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: > > record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 > record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 > ... > > Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. Is this what you're after? $ cat input col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 col15 col16 .... cat input | awk -F\ '{for (i=1;i > Thanks! > > -- > David "promising never to do this again" Allen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:48:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC841065672 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-33.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-33.bluehost.com [69.89.18.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCBAE8FC16 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 11328 invoked by uid 0); 2 Nov 2008 04:48:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy2.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2008 04:48:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=dF4pfLuefuskZ6qw5Zbuh/cXMnwfvVY43ilDztU73M3Mko0X7B3u9Aa4Nub7OdkpSY+9VdDKcnPj9m2SnD/9TU1NW++XI08XtW5MDfR1bV+yxzC5EFjZvi1SUHHhHQDG; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwUtJ-0006nS-MF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:48:45 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:40:03 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:40:03 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081102044003.GC2112@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <901166.83096.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vEao7xgI/oilGqZ+" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <901166.83096.qm@web56804.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:48:48 -0000 --vEao7xgI/oilGqZ+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 08:49:09AM -0700, mdh wrote: >=20 > I rather like KDE4. I don't find that it's like Windows at all, given th= at Windows is an operating system and KDE4 is a development framework, appl= ication suite, and window manager. There're hefty differences there, not t= he least of which being that KDE4 isn't an operating system kernel. In gen= eral, I've found it to be well-maintained (some of the window managers I've= used in the past went defunct when the 1-2 developers actively working on = them got bored or whatever), nicely designed, attractive appearance-wise, a= nd easy to configure. Let's face it, spending a whole bunch of hours over = the course of a few weeks writing a perfect afterstep config was really coo= l when I was a young'un and didn't have a life to worry about, but nowadays= I just want to get on with what needs doing. KDE allows me to accomplish = just that, efficiently, and without leaving me unable to toggle/modify/conf= igure certain things as GNOME does. =20 >=20 My preference is to simply find a window manager that acts as much like my ideal as possible in its default, unconfigured form -- and make a few minor tweaks as necessary. What I don't want is something that has a whole bunch of stuff heaped on it to cover every possible eventuality the developers envision, leaving me still wanting more, with an "easy" configuration interface to try to make up for the lacks. That, I'm afraid, is how KDE feels to me. Worse yet, KDE4 strikes me as significantly counter-intuitive. I'm aware that "intuitive" in interfaces is a matter of familiarity -- but I think it's relevant in this case, in that KDE and GNOME seem to a fair degree to have a need to cater to the familiarity of people who also use OSes like MS Windows and Apple MacOS X. While my primary sense of familiarity (and thus the "intuitive") isn't with MS and Apple OSes, they do kinda fill in the secondary and tertiary spots for me; KDE4 falls into line somewhere back around 20th for me. It seems to me like it has several configuration options lacking in something like MS Windows, and lacks several that something like MS Windows has -- but has made poor trade-offs, adding less important configuration options and removing more important options, based on what I've seen so far. This view of KDE4 is based my recent experience (a few days ago) of installing and configuring PC-BSD on a laptop for a friend. PC-BSD's default version of KDE4 is a newer iteration than what's in FreeBSD ports, so it certainly isn't a matter of the default install having a slightly older minor version number and needing to be upgraded. The somewhat broken functionality is a bit of a problem, too -- such as the Plasma Desktop Folder View's inability to just show the damned icons properly, the tendency of KDE to crash and restart when I try to make certain changes with widgets "unlocked", panels that might vanish from view when I try to move them but are apparently still running *somewhere*, and so on. I've never been much of a fan of KDE, ever since I discovered the joys of window managers that aren't derivative of the MS/Apple WIMP style, but KDE4 strikes me as a case of some visionary project manager stepping on his own virtual genitals. I don't know -- maybe I just don't "get" the new direction for KDE4. Maybe it's awesome for someone's purposes. It's terrible for mine. =2E . . not that I think GNOME 2.24 is any better. I'll stick with AHWM for now, long since abandoned by its developer, but so elegant in operation and configuration that it really doesn't even need any further development. It does what it needs to do, and doesn't screw around with a bunch of singing and dancing and backflips to distract me from the fact it doesn't do anything fundamentally new. Just one man's opinion. Yours is surely different. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Perl is, in intent, a cleaned up and summarized version of that wonderful semi-natural language known as 'Unix'." --vEao7xgI/oilGqZ+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkNLyMACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXCiwCgxJHbiLivhYJD20wjYltmxcHL Y2sAoMz+rk4HPdZz5XWUsf9hmV/2JhH5 =Yxr5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vEao7xgI/oilGqZ+-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:50:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660821065680 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from mail.pattersonsoftware.com (mail.pattersonsoftware.com [121.52.192.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216B08FC0A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gary@pattersonsoftware.com) Received: from localhost (mail [127.0.0.3]) by mail.pattersonsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5514B7B32; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:50:38 +1000 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pattersonsoftware.com Received: from mail.pattersonsoftware.com ([127.0.0.3]) by localhost (mail.pattersonsoftware.com [127.0.0.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCJMWpPt07vJ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:50:33 +1000 (EST) Received: from elegia (60-242-254-180.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.254.180]) by mail.pattersonsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E17344B7B18; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:50:32 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:50:31 +1000 From: Gary Newcombe To: "David Allen" Message-Id: <20081102145031.7d4e50aa.gary@pattersonsoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811012117i5d3f30d3w9ea927679cb5e7b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102020344.GA80530@icarus.home.lan> <2daa8b4e0811012117i5d3f30d3w9ea927679cb5e7b1@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Patterson Software X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0rc2 (GTK+ 2.12.12; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:50:39 -0000 On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 20:17:54 -0800, "David Allen" wrote: > On 11/1/08, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 06:21:55PM -0700, David Allen wrote: > >> My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need > >> to use awk to generate a report. > >> > >> I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to > >> keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, > >> each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in > >> columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: > >> > >> record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 > >> record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 > >> ... > >> > >> Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. > > > > $ cat input > > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 > > > > $ cat output.awk > > { > > print $1 " " $2 " " $3 " " $4 " " $5 " " $6 " " $7 > > print $8 " " $9 " " $10 " " $11 " " $12 " " $13 " " $14 > > } > > > > $ cat intput | awk -f output.awk > > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 > > col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 > Maybe you want them to line up too. Would using tabs be appropriate? Maybe something like this? awk -F\ '{for (i=1;i Thanks for the reply, Jeremy, but that approach would require an > entirely manual approach, which isn't suitable for what I'm working > with. Writing a script that's the same size as the data I'm working > with isn't an option. ;-) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:53:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3866E1065679 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-103.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-103.bluehost.com [69.89.22.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B25F08FC37 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:53:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 23726 invoked by uid 0); 2 Nov 2008 04:53:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2008 04:53:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=MrRs2NJpJ2oTUO9cuWUL5k6w1Te22UiG63h2P31Rc/BPeG/l0TUa7Lpli782X4ZKCqMDwJG43MJbyqOpvB2ljujgdu3DqQf2dgXachw34tsuZ4RvA8B6yVt5SqJAN8/f; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwUyG-0007z4-WB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:53:53 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:45:10 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:45:10 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081102044510.GD2112@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:53:55 -0000 --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 05:04:15PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 04:34:38PM +0100, Wojciech Puc= har escribi=F3: > >=20 > > the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?" > > the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze. > >=20 > > If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista. > >=20 > > For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice. >=20 > I disagree concerning "KDE && windoze"; I'm using KDE 3.5.8 and it is a v= ery > good and stable desktop, even for kernel folks and hackers; I run it > with FreeBSD 7.0R on my daily work laptop; My impression, over the last few years, is that the above description is backwards. MS Windows seems to be emulating KDE, rather than the other way around. Vista looked surprisingly like KDE3 when it made it into the public eye, and the rumor now is that the 7 pre-beta looks surprisingly like KDE4. As such, KDE appears to be an excellent choice for a gentle transition from MS Windows to the Unixy world -- and it may provide a better experience overall. Still . . . KDE isn't for me. Besides all that, this thread was spawned by reference to KDE4, which is significantly different in behavior than KDE3 in some insidious ways. As such, I'm not sure one's experience with KDE3 is the best litmus for whether KDE4 is or will be a good choice. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Bill McKibben: "The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to yield." --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkNMFYACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKVmOACeNddCIkIPmRoz9LraCn9ejnAF nz0AoJsfMxY5+rMxOBRu7ckFDXT67B6H =mFdM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PHCdUe6m4AxPMzOu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 04:54:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687C61065689 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480AF8FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 04:54:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF235C77 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:55:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1225601715; bh=mmzoC/w4c1Bwki0uuUslbx8UpFf9 4bvn0CkuN1nTPWI=; b=pVqmFN0bUrMw0z3xTQu2d/p5/voN+qxe3iQQ0oZ6nvRQ zdXfFjmbLTGWvSAsgLWXMVKXmyfS/N7+M8nRx6/Cx4d8nSE5NRGBjCriOV8yjG0N Ghc7ycRFX/G4e7Q3m4iPQBQHjKJ6LwLPgNWkMLVILkRBjQzS+IQoXZO0NLgpV7s= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id 6rJjDDVQEfUr for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:55:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 00:54:15 -0400 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081102045414.GA13745@shepherd> References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:54:18 -0000 David Allen wrote: > My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need > to use awk to generate a report. > > I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to > keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, > each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in > columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: > > record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 > record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 > ... A small sh script: #!/bin/sh awk ' { for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) { printf("%s ", $i) if (i % 7 == 0) { printf("\n") } } if (NF % 7 != 0) { printf("\n") } } ' input -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 05:03:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79EB4106567C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3228FC17 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1848270rvf.43 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:03:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XRn8mpnmcWUWn/gDO8AE7EzJvQ9BzOgjIcD2aU8HmQU=; b=bKzmhZi0dOgIe39DoDszOyJCvEAoxjoQ/ODKQ8b9PRjV6pi8B3N28YN4zBv/akZOpC RUGc8XOYUkrKL5O4j6xxG26LBuBHl6//6LaT8VAJ2hJO0nOHb5zEI7U5/axrdpKhmyjv oQtJMljgAgnBBPkSb78PHOCup7JDxhgp9oxuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MbzO3z+Zq3MpM2n1C/XmEbHijQ03fFQSBK38oXEP/moKx6jfVnibhmGKUT2d08LypA klcAjcz64/OZw2+59YhOqzyRk4xczAvCt4jGlYsGg6cDR5DbueNaPuanyhMUS5QANSlM /lJHrvV7kX39T3fTDfr9WSfvvokR4PBCrmP4s= Received: by 10.142.128.6 with SMTP id a6mr6419441wfd.10.1225602207794; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.18.2 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0811012203u1562cf47h3b92391cbcf77203@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:03:27 -0800 From: "David Allen" To: "Gary Newcombe" In-Reply-To: <20081102143753.d1f66ad9.gary@pattersonsoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102143753.d1f66ad9.gary@pattersonsoftware.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:03:28 -0000 On 11/1/08, Gary Newcombe wrote: > On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 18:21:55 -0700, "David Allen" > wrote: > >> My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need >> to use awk to generate a report. >> >> I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to >> keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, >> each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in >> columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: >> >> record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 >> record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 >> ... >> >> Should be simple, but I'm getting nowhere. > > Is this what you're after? > > $ cat input > col1 col2 col3 col4 col5 col6 col7 col8 col9 col10 col11 col12 col13 col14 > col15 col16 .... > > cat input | awk -F\ '{for (i=1;i $i,$(i+1),$(i+2),$(i+3),$(i+4),$(i+5),$(i+6) }' Bingo! That was what similar to what I was starting with before going off on a tangent. Seems I screwed up the syntax and gave up too early. Thanks, Gary. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 05:10:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52002106564A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253F38FC26 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:10:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1942359wfg.7 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=A9xFJwb6QH/Gard64ToHn7SqH4ca/6jEGrrhZeRmeH0=; b=Qv+kpWIjKCu895E2l0Zy56m/uQoxd2CaRV3giRthSWVgYFfsDOP5mdrHUXW8ZVAlfF c/Rh/T2u5tTh5ZQGBjY+dtKsFCyX3OOk5wExKuR3a9nN6ut0TR7moSn5T5+OXnUf6+Id iupqqQ+i2PYO2WZNAI3e2KlsX8xsj0ml/dQEc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=U4+XRfOWA+bGi6roRofg3gT6e7SjHNiwYlTm/uXUY/1pm5K/5JAk7s7mPZ8X6YyzaD 3B7Bl91wzgt7FeGWR+Nxqkm+WCPJmIbM2CDI9LPG9miR+ENJO4OrHFKsGQ9+kroCaKtH CkLWX2ekJvCtJre5w7u32tP8EgefC/n0LxKxA= Received: by 10.142.90.16 with SMTP id n16mr6436372wfb.130.1225602603851; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.18.2 with HTTP; Sat, 1 Nov 2008 22:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0811012210k40e92816ydbc96e36abe9ee5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 21:10:03 -0800 From: "David Allen" To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" In-Reply-To: <20081102045414.GA13745@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102045414.GA13745@shepherd> Cc: Sahil Tandon Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:10:04 -0000 On 11/1/08, Sahil Tandon wrote: > David Allen wrote: > >> My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need >> to use awk to generate a report. >> >> I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to >> keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, >> each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in >> columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: >> >> record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 >> record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 >> ... > > A small sh script: > > #!/bin/sh > awk ' { > for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) { > printf("%s ", $i) > if (i % 7 == 0) { printf("\n") } > } > if (NF % 7 != 0) { printf("\n") } > } ' input An elegant solution if ever I read one. The mod operator should have been the first thing that came to mind. I'm not sure whether I need a class in remedial math, or remedial awk, but either way, my thanks for the solution. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 05:30:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C4F1065674 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-04.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-04.bluehost.com [69.89.21.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 512F18FC0C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:30:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 24933 invoked by uid 0); 2 Nov 2008 05:30:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2008 05:30:44 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Ao9pC//AVq9yOoepPr/M1NtmsVFiSt/FNb4Ss08qsgy7TPaZu25JCPoS5iLuXUcknvGLh/4jiFxvfxfCt+HNdU4EE3I4dGeLha67Ez+ZPxBNbrvNd4clRSWDod2JThO5; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KwVXw-0006dM-Ez for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:30:44 -0600 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:22:01 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 23:22:01 -0600 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081102052201.GE2112@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+SfteS7bOf3dGlBC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:30:46 -0000 --+SfteS7bOf3dGlBC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:43:56AM -0700, Yuri wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > >it's SLOW and resource hungry - giving nothing else than a good look.=20 > >that's why i compare it to windoze. > > > >and why you need "desktop" (whatever it means) at all? >=20 > You need desktop for Unix (Linux) to be adopted by simple users. > Also GUI makes life much easier even for advanced users. > I don't want to deal command lines/config files for mundane > things like finding and setting up wireless networks, playing > CDs/DVDs, etc. GUI integrated with desktop would make this > much less time consuming. A couple of things: 1. It's true -- many users require a gentler transition than simply giving up the "richness" of MS Windows and moving to some spare, productivity-enhancing user environment like some of those available on Unix systems. Luckily, Unix can accomodate many different approaches to a GUI environment, so all can be happy with what they have. That's one of the benefits of a Unix architecture, as opposed to one where the underlying OS is wedded to its "desktop metaphor" implementation. 2. One doesn't need a "Desktop Environment" to have a GUI -- a point I think you glossed over or even missed entirely. One doesn't even need the DE for GUI-based configuration. 3. The command line is not more time consuming than the GUI for most purposes. It is, in fact, *less* time consuming, as well as being more powerful and flexible, for most purposes. There are some tasks for which a GUI approach is the most effective, and there are many more for which a TUI is better. What makes the GUI "easier" for many people is that it doesn't tend to have as high an initial learning curve. Once you get past the initial learning curve, though, the CLI is far more productive and efficient than a GUI in most cases, at least in my experience. It's all a bit like the relative learning curves of various editing environment: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/pictures/curves.jpg > > > >just window manager is enough, try fvwm2 maybe icewm maybe other etc. > > > not really enough. >=20 > Unfortunately open source is pretty much a failure when it comes to GUI a= nd > desktop. Any kind of GUI, look at ddd for example. Untested=20 > development-stage > software (like kde4) is being released to the public for some reason. No, it isn't a failure. It's a raging success in many ways. Its only failures are in marketing, for the most part. KDE4 is buggy as hell in my experience, but it's no worse than the GUI environment for Millenium Edition. In addition to that, we in the open source world still have significant advances over the bells-and-whistles aesthetic of MS Windows, in more ways than one: 1. We have better bells and whistles. Compiz Fusion comes to mind. 2. We have better interface design. Even though Compiz Fusion is a steaming pile of unnecessary crap in my personal opinion (where UI design is concerned), it's still leagues ahead of Aero Glass for purposes of productivity enhancement (or at least refraining from getting in the way of productivity), and both GNOME and KDE<4 are better than XP's UI in that regard. 3. A bunch of other GUI environments are far, far better than the typical DEs of the OSS world in terms of productivity enhancing UI design; they stay the hell out of the way while providing functionality that improves user task completion efficiency. The ddd example is kind of unfair, by the way. That's a common GNU problem, not a broader open source problem. It's my experience that the GNU project is full of people who have absolutely no idea how to design a decent interface. The GNU project is so influential, though, that once they come up with something that fits within a specific niche, the rest of the open source world seems reluctant to do anything to reach into the same niche and replace the GNU train-wreck of UI with a better UI. I mean, come on -- just look at Info Pages. What a disaster area. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Georg Hackl: "American beer is the first successful attempt at diluting water." --+SfteS7bOf3dGlBC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkNOPkACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWV3wCg5E84NB4gh4NJB4c/8y+DXgS1 DkwAoJBSaafoHHCpu4ixqH7MlfIFdzlG =hNk/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+SfteS7bOf3dGlBC-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 05:48:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84EA106567C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbolivar@cantv.net) Received: from 10ibp20ser03.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (10ibp20ser03.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.11.173.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612928FC13 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbolivar@cantv.net) X-DNSBL-MILTER: Passed Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dbec61b89.dslam-172-17-160-245-0126-313.dsl.cantv.net [190.198.27.137] (may be forged)) by 10ibp20ser03.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/3.0) with ESMTP id mA25X7p3031889 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 01:03:11 -0430 X-Matched-Lists: [] Message-ID: <490D3B91.2020800@cantv.net> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 01:03:05 -0430 From: Julian Bolivar User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102045414.GA13745@shepherd> In-Reply-To: <20081102045414.GA13745@shepherd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 081101-0, 11/01/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on 10.128.1.89 X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: /stand/sysinstall freezed on FreeBSD 7.1 install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:48:34 -0000 Dear Friends, I try to install FreeBSD 7.1 AMD64 beta 2 in an Intel Core 2 Duo and motherboard MSI 975X Platinum V.2m, but when /stand/sysinstall try to start from the installation CD, the system freezed and don't continue the install process. Anyone know how to solved this problem to install it Thanks and regards, Julian Bolivar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 07:44:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4100F1065678 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:44:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (hunter.sisis.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A898FC18 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 07:44:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21826; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:35:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-88-217-83-8.dynamic.mnet-online.de(88.217.83.8) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma021640; Sun, 2 Nov 08 08:34:15 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA27grtg001865; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: Sven Aluoor , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 07:44:30 -0000 El día Sunday, November 02, 2008 a las 02:48:13AM +0300, Boris Samorodov escribió: > Sven Aluoor writes: > > > I tried netinstall of stable and current. Both versions of the > > installer dont have driver for my NIC. > > > > How to get ethernet working? > > > > "lscpi" on Debian Lenny: > > 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit > > Ethernet Adapter (rev b0) > > Seems that you may be interested at: > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=343551+0+current/freebsd-current Known issues and FreeBSD work for the eeePC series are described here: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 09:25:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1231065679 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) Received: from mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F4CA8FC65 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao0BAIAADUnAqBRz/2dsb2JhbAAIh3uLBLUHg1I X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,529,1220191200"; d="scan'208";a="152823333" Received: from 115.20-168-192.network.zzz.iprimus.net.au (HELO cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au) ([192.168.20.115]) by s95.int.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2008 20:25:46 +1100 Received: from [192.168.20.141] by cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:25:46 +1100 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:25:46 +1100 Message-ID: <4908AAE400003225@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> In-Reply-To: <28283d910810301539v62dd20csd580ff9a7aa76446@mail.gmail.com> From: alasdair@iprimus.com.au To: "matt donovan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:25:49 -0000 >-- Original Message -- >Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:39:23 -0400 >From: "matt donovan" >To: alasdair@iprimus.com.au >Cc: andrew clarke , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems > > >does your DNS support SV lookups they are actually putting in some A records >for a work around for people with "broken" DNS. >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" What is SV lookup and how do I check this, any particular man page or resource? Where (or how) is my DNS likely to be "broken"? Thanks, Alasdair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 09:31:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFF81065689 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay06.plus.net (pih-relay06.plus.net [212.159.14.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C518B8FC1A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay06.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1KwZIz-00028d-GT for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:31:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20081102024409.B93DF1065763@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:31:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: f53ab8fc9fcfc32c4a19feb684dd54b8 Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 09:31:36 -0000 I left KDE after version 2 as it then seemed to go in the wrong direction (more features / bloat?) http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde2shots.php In fact, if 2.n would compile on 7.0 I'd have another look. Since then I've been quite a fan of XFCE but found myself slowly but surely converting to minimalism i.e. the least needed to get done what I need done! On my desktop FreeBSD this amount to about 6 jobs and for those twm fits the bill perfectly. http://81.174.174.115/twm/twmrc.htm (Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. by Antoine de Saint-Exuper.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 11:18:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E27106564A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656338FC13 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from naylor.b.david@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so649301eyi.7 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:18:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:organization:to:subject :date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=gtObEeLDFWQsU80Wx/rwQeSqylTb8TMP7WsuhQ4hXEo=; b=exiOku1pyEsiTaymP7xu9sXzEL7r9jpGcJI/F1OtjDC4yP7nUrOhVcBZoZYqdMZ9Yf CednHoMaICBImOU9b0pcBWxPNDj6D1bzrDM/tVQEZiwWG9E6IHNYUIDRnGo9rd8g3qnE hlZdKENWJmDIY/8Vw5yOBQpeGTb+ZcCJJ0A8w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:organization:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=ZUjvCIgx36Z1UANxzD3P+ocCZDK4NP9iBpKK4OJ5LRUfyaVt2Wi0gdjBiFU4mYJTGM YKIEwRa9oWdAgyj1AYyabXxq1NHT6pVmxb8qkvUJjrnptdynSTQRSvfRMC9AlLZ5roQS 7eHR1kQpLaNwb+0l689ljI1AEfYuDIGxf2PcA= Received: by 10.210.86.10 with SMTP id j10mr16095701ebb.118.1225623134765; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?0.0.0.0? ([196.34.241.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm11200567gve.9.2008.11.02.02.52.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:52:14 -0800 (PST) From: David Naylor Organization: Private To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:47:23 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1757075.DMJFJEQmgZ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200811020947.27959.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:18:38 -0000 --nextPart1757075.DMJFJEQmgZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi, According to the Release Schedule for FreeBSD 7.1 it is a few months behind= =2E =20 I know that FreeBSD 7.1 will not be released until it is working properly,= =20 and bug free however I am wondering what the hold ups are. =20 If someone could take the time to answer me I would appreciate it. Regards David --nextPart1757075.DMJFJEQmgZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkkNWw8ACgkQUaaFgP9pFrIGiQCdHgnL83F6W1V8mwfKSOzELhmh vh4AoIsbtSDW4LPy1dgvCEEHTqM3pJd/ =+rpu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1757075.DMJFJEQmgZ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 11:45:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68AE1065674 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from pecan2.exetel.com.au (pecan2.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2928FC1F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:45:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by pecan2.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KwbOV-0004z9-K1; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:45:23 +1100 Message-ID: <490D9322.8040400@maydias.com> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:46:42 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Naylor References: <200811020947.27959.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200811020947.27959.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:45:25 -0000 David Naylor wrote: > Hi, > > According to the Release Schedule for FreeBSD 7.1 it is a few months behind. > I know that FreeBSD 7.1 will not be released until it is working properly, > and bug free however I am wondering what the hold ups are. > > If someone could take the time to answer me I would appreciate it. > > Regards > > David > Only thing i know to look at myself is whats on the website http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.1R/schedule.html other then that id imagine one of the devalopers or such would know. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 11:50:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4292106567B for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.tcbug.org (mail.tcbug.org [216.243.150.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9089D8FC0C for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:50:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jpaetzel@FreeBSD.org) Received: from roadrash.tcbug.org (c-24-118-145-206.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [24.118.145.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tcbug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8FD74169E4D0; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:50:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <490D9411.9070002@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:50:41 -0600 From: Josh Paetzel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Allen References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> <20081102045414.GA13745@shepherd> <2daa8b4e0811012210k40e92816ydbc96e36abe9ee5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811012210k40e92816ydbc96e36abe9ee5@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , Sahil Tandon Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 11:50:42 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 David Allen wrote: > On 11/1/08, Sahil Tandon wrote: >> David Allen wrote: >> >>> My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need >>> to use awk to generate a report. >>> >>> I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to >>> keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, >>> each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in >>> columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: >>> >>> record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 >>> record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 >>> ... >> A small sh script: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> awk ' { >> for (i=1; i<=NF; i++) { >> printf("%s ", $i) >> if (i % 7 == 0) { printf("\n") } >> } >> if (NF % 7 != 0) { printf("\n") } >> } ' input > > An elegant solution if ever I read one. The mod operator should have > been the first thing that came to mind. > > I'm not sure whether I need a class in remedial math, or remedial awk, > but either way, my thanks for the solution. Just in case you've never discovered column, piping the output of this to column -t will get you nice formatting for free. - -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5ABC 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkkNlBEACgkQJvkB8Sevrsv6lwCdHk5llGh4ZG+0CnQLARJDqGD9 0AEAniRtmjDNfKXHdsGAudA3uiwYFB9f =IImT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 12:20:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E1B10656D5 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61A578FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 48097 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2008 11:53:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1FWXxQ9OFwEJro3PPboOtpsRwF10M6soETbQm3IDQ32A4ZFMDjWv19rorHL1k0a9XgkddxrFSEftEP4dbAGpRoyH1gwkzQGC5PBJ9J8Gd1hcfahXYCRdlNvZ1HEAdvfCqJ2DBhr5MAavfn4YVpxuld87DTWju3fvZEMT1iotUEI=; X-YMail-OSG: ExHEus4VM1nVKIrX2sEoYRw.dBB0SeDecu2csoXAKyzQ99fTu2idc5peOJ4722eLtczKUy0F1HW7KrKFORf6EZvaVU3StO7dPNd4CnhtaZf4o97RwS73TUoiSND.fKOL55g1q3koQHAD_J_tPOy3Ryx0rfziyxwm4ETV.bL5e7Ac.SlMsi8XDOjt_Q-- Received: from [67.189.239.8] by web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:53:29 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <200811020947.27959.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 03:53:29 -0800 (PST) From: GESBBB To: FreeBSD Users Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <89865.47403.qm@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:20:12 -0000 > From: David Naylor =0A> =0A> Hi,=0A> =0A> Accor= ding to the Release Schedule for FreeBSD 7.1 it is a few months behind.=A0 = =0A> I know that FreeBSD 7.1 will not be released until it is working prope= rly, =0A> and bug free however I am wondering what the hold ups are.=A0 =0A= > =0A> If someone could take the time to answer me I would appreciate it.= =0A> =0A> Regards=0A> =0A> David=0A=0AIMHO, if they are waiting until FBSD-= 7.1 can be certified as 'bug free', then it might never be released. Howeve= r, if they are simply waiting to insure that all known bugs are squashed, t= hen it probably won't be too much longer.=0A=0APersonally, I think the fact= that the latest version of Perl has been out for nearly a year now and yet= there is no sign of it in the ports system.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry=0Agesbbb@yaho= o.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 12:52:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E94C4106568E for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:52:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9658FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:52:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from giles (dsl-145-38-45.telkomadsl.co.za [165.145.38.45]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA2CgXjA062145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:42:40 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:53:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811011821q210ae3a5j8f612a0fc79e8844@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811021453.01646.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Spam-Score: -3.479 () AWL,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: OT: Shell Script using Awk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:52:53 -0000 On Sunday 02 November 2008 03:21:55 David Allen wrote: > My apologies for asking on this list, but I'm stuck without Perl and need > to use awk to generate a report. > > I'm working with a large data set spread across multiple files, but to > keep things simple, say I have A Very Long String that containing records, > each delimited by a single space. I need to print those records in > columnar format, but with only 7 columns per line: > > record1 record2 record3 record4 record5 record6 record7 > record08 record09 record10 record11 record12 record13 record14 Are you dead set on using awk(1)? Because my first thought would be rs(1). cat inputfile | rs 0 7 To turn your space-separated entries into 7 columns. You may need some fiddling about (to avoid running out of memory, space on the line, etc). This is one of my top three sadly-neglected BSD commands everyone should know more about, along with lam(1) and jot(1). Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 12:56:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611F31065675 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aluoor@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31E08FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 12:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aluoor@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1670058fgb.35 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:56:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BNhHsh+hXICMnJgEXOIG3zwgyJcRIP5a+OyuD/YJZes=; b=JGcyqeRXJqlt6dEt64rXuPbf3IM7MdF4PcIR5veHjoTiMdVOU+iQTAxj/m5VymjA63 vV33OQhoYs8UfBXvXk7UW942oWbXDCXEIqSIqcVkzUBRiIKImB0kfAcXKPJPueAdR7UK uvFmSAk3+s2jNYAirAa1JsEItfyLe02XxJhyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bqHWV/LfcqTBWe+2oiVvWl3dfCGH3tzj7PoZ/i2uCYgCciX8fhabY6QCpLZZDyLoDM EtkLo1PECRUK3b3g3uwKHHLNJRetHXe/rrs1CtCTg4wke4WURploZk7kebL/vfJoUt0h TV00zjHPwM7SqSm1m61yghcMYMDMPrmTpR+2E= Received: by 10.86.61.13 with SMTP id j13mr9977520fga.71.1225630589715; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lenny (84-73-201-16.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.73.201.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm7300365fgg.4.2008.11.02.04.56.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:56:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:56:27 +0100 From: Sven Aluoor To: Matthias Apitz Message-Id: <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:56:31 -0000 On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0100 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Sunday, November 02, 2008 a las 02:48:13AM +0300, Boris > Samorodov escribi=F3: > > Seems that you may be interested at: > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D343551+0+current/freebsd= -current Hi Boris This link reference to an empty document > Known issues and FreeBSD work for the eeePC series are described here: > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee >=20 > HIH Hi Matthias Thanks for the wikipage. I quote from there: Atheros L1 FastEthernet This one is second generation of L1 controller which is supposed to be heavily modified by Atheros after acquiring Attansic. This controller uses different bits/meaning in register layouts and seems to use different descriptor formats. This is not supported by the age(4) driver.=20 In clear text: at the moment there is no driver available? Is this correct? thanks kind regards Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 13:02:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA491065673 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.77]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 619DB8FC1D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 22107 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2008 13:02:21 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ua+hTvQOchSudt49XFk9ACvzYa2P6k0NCYa+Z5VcbMzDIKUDgADAAtauloPc6g4Vh3KE35VSA0e3QB6XWzbuIYjqYe+i8oPzzOOYbfKkeIxdyPcPKnDwH9ipYWXUaEnX+xMhhRJe9xYqaoHfNJqsld5DCwqBSv/D8I+Fh2Vlt78=; X-YMail-OSG: QQzCm6IVM1mkYstDIkbLEjdB0ilyTsX.J0SIg05demvGOonzmRIH_EPXFWZVbAMU.grAUyehtNV1jCt_wdvO6kBgT3HU2zTJ3NnTx4YB4W.bcJaR2sy4qx4vKzT9dRa8kHn.ErEnsFmAbSXrdR_o9Y3QJHu_VusGKyGjhz6S6ZrQciL7IWU.4fgmXrLi0A-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:02:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 05:02:19 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, David Naylor In-Reply-To: <200811020947.27959.naylor.b.david@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <725888.20529.qm@web56803.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:02:22 -0000 --- On Sun, 11/2/08, David Naylor wrote: > From: David Naylor > Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 - Status > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 2:47 AM > Hi, > > According to the Release Schedule for FreeBSD 7.1 it is a > few months behind. > I know that FreeBSD 7.1 will not be released until it is > working properly, > and bug free however I am wondering what the hold ups are. > > > If someone could take the time to answer me I would > appreciate it. > > Regards > > David Generally speaking, the easiest way to find out when a release is really likely to get out the door is probably to check the GNATS system for major bugs and follow the goings-on over on the stable, hackers, and other development-oriented mailing lists. There hasn't been an RC for 7 yet, so it still has a ways to go. 6.4-R will probably be out the door in a matter of weeks, as RC2 just got tagged a couple of days ago. Hint: look for kensmith commits to newvers.sh for a much quicker heads-up on activity than you'll get from the schedule on the website. ;) - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 13:30:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3064D106564A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex34live@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5D48FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex34live@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1124054tid.3 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 05:30:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :x-mimeole; bh=xWs3JdBSux85xX1R5kbH/vXBmtbXNczqbA77Ry+beVk=; b=L3jRQJMsjwFOt2LmcqDRKB10ih9GSnboq2JmIKxaq1zsYykRHiHQgS7DWQ94abe7Dh ZWDfnBtf+/LK664MfR5z9HEBWSsiYQ9aydnXWBV3+ln0kq/lgtwbJNs2zNiij+bxvHPv Ftkc3oxEzICdHwFX+F2hE2jyOSJOzcAh8Ic6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:x-mimeole; b=gNz2obRI6yHd7fihY6Y/sCCLDa0UuamLDzr4tbs95hTjdSqP0K1Jb3p8NdknwiqJ4c FPe7Mx3WScsni+gBLnayNztVuVfCMz1P8hbCvetFrdyDk7emYgyySPQOkDihrITSyQJr HLrgHISZ3Ntdy0mJdm3Od5ji71okFVUycXluY= Received: by 10.110.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr10334880tib.11.1225630724271; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:58:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from inb ([123.113.99.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm11066571tib.1.2008.11.02.04.58.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:58:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Zhang" To: Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 20:58:38 +0800 Message-ID: <2C549F01A2F24911800E5C8E238A2F81@inb> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ack86rkHRZZU6Vl2QySwLT0BxWXF4Q== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: just a test mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 13:30:25 -0000 Hi, Dear admin I want to submit a question to Mail list; I hope to get help in time. Thanks BR Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 14:34:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB37D106567F for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from hunter.Sisis.de (mail.oclc.de [193.31.11.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567EC8FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:34:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.Sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11640; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:24:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) Received: from ppp-88-217-83-8.dynamic.mnet-online.de(88.217.83.8) by hunter.Sisis.de via smap (V2.1) id xma011605; Sun, 2 Nov 08 15:24:37 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA2EXH7K011843; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:33:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:33:17 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Sven Aluoor Message-ID: <20081102143317.GA11623@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) Cc: Boris Samorodov , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:34:11 -0000 El día Sunday, November 02, 2008 a las 01:56:27PM +0100, Sven Aluoor escribió: > Hi Matthias > > Thanks for the wikipage. I quote from there: > > Atheros L1 FastEthernet > This one is second generation of L1 controller which is supposed to be > heavily modified by Atheros after acquiring Attansic. This controller > uses different bits/meaning in register layouts and seems to use > different descriptor formats. This is not supported by the age(4) > driver. > > In clear text: at the moment there is no driver available? Is this > correct? I don't know if this is the last information. I have an eeePC 900 and not the 1000. Write to the autors of the page, maybe they know if someone is already working on it. In any case you could install from an USB key as described here http://www.unixarea.de/installEeePC.txt and Wifi will work, I think. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 15:37:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BB51065670 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6D08FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 15:37:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64AA5C79 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:38:57 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1225640336; bh=0Rlrak1kC9fjcORoJSUkGSnjoEmR KM1rbu1IfJ91p2c=; b=rrR3eUMZkRbtX7GpyXlHoMI33oahz7GjrfImRD3jaX8E CgLLt7UY5OTelYgUZlD/En4u+OUQhSFHS3ajL7oOuhk+mBwpbqnqVKTs6IBBhSSv WSI4BWE6DkYc7GE2CPgV2BeVX9SPn1UfXY7xnCkN0d5kOKQ0N2kQob8tj3lKgJM= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id Iy9hSfoeLmi8 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:38:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:37:56 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081102153755.GB14649@shepherd> References: <2C549F01A2F24911800E5C8E238A2F81@inb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2C549F01A2F24911800E5C8E238A2F81@inb> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: just a test mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:37:59 -0000 Alex Zhang wrote: > I want to submit a question to Mail list; I hope to get help in time. > Thanks Never, ever send test emails to freebsd-questions. From the Handbook: If you wish to test your ability to send to FreeBSD lists, send a test message to freebsd-test. Please do not send test messages to any other list. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 14:49:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70F701065674 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:49:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F29AE8FC31 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 14:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 15737 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Nov 2008 14:49:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4SnIfGtRK9I6lwABleoxk2UIncRBIQGkhYyU2AReFNHi3AxYekXq31XgcU5ZHluabDyHL2kpI8STkzg7BVYoUj/yYbqqD7tH+0uTYphrWplTMew1AehyRN8oGALatFziriZ5TV5FcaZyoV0E/vRCiVBOWLdzZalIDlUTv8bVXx4=; X-YMail-OSG: mdSbcJQVM1nU0RTQChFV3u123Fkzym.D5UcGeopKBYwuqIUDWxlsZvmBLEn8J2MzpSJQ9sCP7NfsDal0X0noK0j2vgHfx9.2gZSj5KGww1xdnRmK58tHWW_CPDxeuIs8szwl2x6_NugrXyEoSdhaleREUneP6k3hrwiPRbs8pYfkeei9FOsRDOrk2rfRpU1ZRkudBhO0bRZuMWRsajgZswhz6HtOkNQoeLGISU8- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 06:49:16 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 06:49:16 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: mm@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <138973.15476.qm@web51102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 15:39:32 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: openacs-5.4.3 on freebsd 6.3 AMD configuration problem SOLVED X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 14:49:18 -0000 =20 =20 Friday, October 31, 2008 11:24 PM =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From:=20 =20 "Dino Vliet" =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 To: =20 =20 mm@FreeBSD.org =20 =20 Cc: =20 =20 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =20 =20 Hi I'm a new user of openacs-5.4.3 and want to try it out on my amd64 system running Freebsd 6.3 and having postgresql-server-8.2.9 installed. The port installs fine and I have set openacs_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf to have it start at boot time. The first time configuration does not give the expected results as my brows= er indicates this: OpenACS Installation =A0 =A0=20 =A0 =A0 Installing the OpenACS kernel data model... But nothing happens anymore.=20 The last part of the file=A0 /usr/local/openacs/log/error.log: [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: AOLserver/4.5.= 0 starting [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: security info:= uid=3D1005, euid=3D1005, gid=3D80, egid=3D80 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: max files: FD_= SETSIZE =3D 1024, rl_cur =3D 11095, rl_max =3D 11095 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Warning: nsmain: rl_max > FD_S= ETSIZE [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Error: pidfile: failed to open pid file '/usr/local/aolserver/log/nspid.openacs': 'Permission denied' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: encoding: loaded: utf-= 8 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: fastpath[openacs]: map= ped GET / [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: fastpath[openacs]: map= ped HEAD / [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: fastpath[openacs]: map= ped POST / [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: adp[openacs]: mapped G= ET /*.adp [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: adp[openacs]: mapped H= EAD /*.adp [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: adp[openacs]: mapped P= OST /*.adp [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nssock.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nslog.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nslog: opened '/usr/lo= cal/openacs/log/openacs.log' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nssha1.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nscache.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: nscache module version= 1.5 server: openacs [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nsdb.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: modload: loading '/usr= /local/aolserver/bin/nspostgres.so' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: PostgreSQL loaded. [31/Oct/2008:22:33:14][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: conf: [ns/server/opena= cs]enabletclpages =3D 0 [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: XOTcl version 1.6.1 lo= aded [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Loading OpenACS, roote= d at /usr/local/openacs [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Sourcing /usr/local/op= enacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/bootstrap.tcl [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Bootstrap: sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/tcl/00-proc-procs.tcl [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Bootstrap: sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/tcl/10-utilities-procs.= tcl [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Bootstrap: sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/tcl/20-db-bootstrap-pro= cs.tcl [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Bootstrap: sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/tcl/30-apm-load-procs.t= cl [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Bootstrap: sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/tcl/40-db-query-dispatc= her-procs.tcl [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Database API: Default = database (dbn) is: 'default' [31/Oct/2008:22:33:20][1073.5292032][-main-] Notice: Database API: Using AL= L database pools for OpenACS. 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[31/Oct/2008:22:54:14][1075.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: AOLserver/4.5.= 0 running [31/Oct/2008:22:54:14][1075.5292032][-main-] Notice: nsmain: security info:= uid=3D1005, euid=3D1005, gid=3D80, egid=3D80 [31/Oct/2008:22:54:14][1075.5437440][-sched-] Notice: sched: starting [31/Oct/2008:22:54:14][1075.5292032][-main-] Notice: driver: starting: nsso= ck [31/Oct/2008:22:54:14][1075.5434368][-nssock:driver-] Notice: starting [31/Oct/2008:22:54:14][1075.5434368][-nssock:driver-] Notice: nssock: liste= ning on 0.0.0.0:8000 [31/Oct/2008:22:56:51][1075.6005760][-conn:0-] Notice:=20 [31/Oct/2008:22:56:51][1075.6005760][-conn:0-] Error: Error sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/install.tcl: [31/Oct/2008:22:58:51][1075.6005760][-conn:0-] Notice: exiting: timeout wai= ting for connection [31/Oct/2008:23:11:30][1075.6006784][-conn:1-] Notice:=20 [31/Oct/2008:23:11:30][1075.6006784][-conn:1-] Error: Error sourcing /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/install.tcl: [31/Oct/2008:23:13:30][1075.6006784][-conn:1-] Notice: exiting: timeout wai= ting for connection What's wrong here? How can I solve it? The last file is present on my system: ls -l /usr/local/openacs/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/install= .tcl=20 -rwxrwx---=A0 1 openacs=A0 openacs=A0 4455 Jan 10=A0 2007 /usr/local/openac= s/packages/acs-bootstrap-installer/installer/install.tcl And it's contents are: ############## # # Get configuration parameters # ############# install_page_contract [install_mandatory_params] [install_optional_params] # Default all system emails to the administrators email foreach var_name {system_owner admin_owner host_administrator outgoing_send= er new_registrations} { =A0 =A0 if { [empty_string_p [set $var_name]] } { =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 set $var_name $email =A0 =A0 } } ############## # # System setting validation # ############# if {$password ne $password_confirmation=A0 } { =A0 =A0 install_return 200 "Passwords Don't Match" " The passwords you've entered don't match. Please try again. " =A0 =A0 return } ############## # # Install data model # ############# ns_write [install_header 200 ""] if { ![install_good_data_model_p] } { =A0 =A0 install_do_data_model_install } else { =A0 =A0 ns_write "Kernel data model already installed." =A0 =A0 # If kernel is installed it probably means this page has already be= en requested, =A0 =A0 # let's exit =A0 =A0 return } ############## # # Install packages # ############# install_do_packages_install if { $username eq "" } { =A0 =A0 set username $email } if { ![db_string user_exists { =A0 =A0 select count(*) from parties where email =3D lower(:email) }] } { =A0 db_transaction { =A0 =A0=20 =A0 =A0 set user_id [ad_user_new \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0$email \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0$first_names \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0$last_name \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0$password \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0"" \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0"" \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0"" \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0"t" \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0"approved" \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0"" \ =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0$username] =A0 =A0 if { !$user_id } { =A0=A0=A0 global errorInfo=A0 =A0=20 =A0=A0=A0 install_return 200 "Unable to Create Administrator" " =A0 =A0=20 Unable to create the site-wide administrator: =A0=A0=A0 
[ns_quotehtml $errorInfo]
=A0 =A0=20 Please try again. =A0 =A0=20 " =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 return =A0 =A0 } =A0 =A0 # stub util_memoize_flush... =A0 =A0 rename util_memoize_flush util_memoize_flush_saved =A0 =A0 proc util_memoize_flush {args} {} =A0 =A0 permission::grant -party_id $user_id -object_id [acs_lookup_magic_o= bject security_context_root] -privilege "admin" =A0 =A0 # nuke stub=20 =A0 =A0 rename util_memoize_flush {} =A0 =A0 rename util_memoize_flush_saved util_memoize_flush =A0 } =A0 ad_conn -set user_id $user_id } # Now process the application bundle if an install.xml file was found. if { [file exists "[acs_root_dir]/install.xml"] } { =A0 =A0 set output [apm::process_install_xml "/install.xml" {}] =A0 =A0 ns_write "

[join $output "

"]

" } ############## # # Load message catalogs # ############# # Doing this before restart so that keys are available in init files on sta= rtup ns_write "

Loading message catalogs..." lang::catalog::import -initialize ns_write "=A0

Done.

" ############## # # Secret tokens # ############# ns_write "

Generating secret tokens..." populate_secret_tokens_db ns_write "=A0

Done.

" ############## # # System settings # ############# set kernel_id [db_string acs_kernel_id_get { =A0 =A0 select package_id from apm_packages =A0 =A0 where package_key =3D 'acs-kernel' }] foreach { var param } { =A0 =A0 system_url SystemURL =A0 =A0 system_name SystemName =A0 =A0 publisher_name PublisherName =A0 =A0 system_owner SystemOwner =A0 =A0 admin_owner AdminOwner =A0 =A0 host_administrator HostAdministrator =A0 =A0 outgoing_sender OutgoingSender } { =A0 =A0 ad_parameter -set [set $var] -package_id $kernel_id $param } # set the Main Site RestrictToSSL parameter set main_site_id [subsite::main_site_id] ad_parameter -set "acs-admin/*" -package_id $main_site_id RestrictToSSL ad_parameter -set $new_registrations -package_id $main_site_id NewRegistrat= ionEmailAddress # We're done - kill the server (will restart if server is setup properly) ad_schedule_proc -thread t -once t 1 ns_shutdown set post_installation_message \ =A0 =A0 [parameter::get_from_package_key -package_key acs-bootstrap-install= er \ =A0 =A0=A0=A0-parameter post_installation_message \ =A0 =A0=A0=A0-default ""] ns_write "Installation finished

The server has been shut down. Normally, it should come back up by itse= lf after a minute or so.

If not, please check your server error log, or contact your system admi= nistrator.

" if { $post_installation_message ne "" } { =A0 =A0 ns_write $post_installation_message } else { =A0 =A0 ns_write "

When the server is back up you can visit the site-wide administration pages

" } Thanks in advanced Dino ns_write [install_footer] *************************************** end of original message ***********= ******** Hi, This was solved by adding the path to the psql binary into my openacs confi= guration file: =A0ns_param=A0=A0 pgbin=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/local/bin/ My openacs-config.tcl now has this: ns_section "ns/db/drivers" if { $database eq "oracle" } { =A0=A0=A0 ns_param=A0=A0 ora8=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ${bindir}/ora8.= so } else { =A0=A0=A0 ns_param=A0=A0 postgres=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ${bindir}/nspostgres.so= =A0 ;# Load PostgreSQL driver =A0=A0=A0 ns_param=A0=A0 pgbin=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 /usr/local/bin/ } Thanks. Dino =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 16:25:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A627E1065670 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCFF8FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA2GPRtn018349; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:25:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA2GPP55018346; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:25:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:25:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <490D13EA.6000604@rawbw.com> Message-ID: <20081102172502.G18344@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> <20081101190520.Y11557@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490D13EA.6000604@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:25:35 -0000 > they try to compete and fail. doesn't matter who did what first. today > windoze gui is way more usable than kde4. this is the only thing i agree. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 16:26:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16176106567B for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:26:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354958FC31 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:26:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA2GQYMm018368; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:26:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA2GQXLT018365; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:26:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:26:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Chad Perrin In-Reply-To: <20081102052201.GE2112@kokopelli.hydra> Message-ID: <20081102172600.A18344@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> <20081102052201.GE2112@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:26:46 -0000 > A couple of things: > > 1. It's true -- many users require a gentler transition than simply > giving up the "richness" of MS Windows and moving to some spare, no. they don't require transition at all. they will not learn, use kde/gnome/whatever windoze-like thing then will get back to windoze. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 16:28:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A081065679 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9A28FC12 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA2GRsLG018388; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:27:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA2GRrxW018385; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:27:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:27:53 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081102172700.N18344@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081102024409.B93DF1065763@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:28:03 -0000 > Since then I've been quite a fan of XFCE but found > myself slowly but surely converting to minimalism > i.e. the least needed to get done what I need done! > > On my desktop FreeBSD this amount to about 6 jobs and for those twm fits the > bill perfectly. > http://81.174.174.115/twm/twmrc.htm i prefer fvwm2 but GREATLY reconfigured - no windows frames, no start menus etc. just 100% of screen for use. > > (Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when > there is nothing left to take away. by Antoine de Saint-Exuper.) exactly From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 16:37:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC21D106567D for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 20E138FC0A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 9878 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2008 16:37:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.136.88) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 2 Nov 2008 16:37:03 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A3CE11708A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:37:02 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:37:02 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: alasdair@iprimus.com.au Message-ID: <20081102163702.GA3921@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081030143327.GA6181@ozzmosis.com> <4908AAE4000014AD@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908AAE4000014AD@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:37:07 -0000 On Fri 2008-10-31 08:11:49 UTC+1100, alasdair@iprimus.com.au (alasdair@iprimus.com.au) wrote: > localhost# /usr/sbin/freebsd-update --debug fetch > Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > Fetching public key from update1.FreeBSD.org... > fetch: http://update1.FreeBSD.org/6.3-STABLE/i386/pub.ssl: Not Found Ah, this is not a DNS problem. You are trying to run freebsd-update from 6.3-STABLE. This isn't supported. From the freebsd-update(8) manpage: "The FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RC1, but not FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE or FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT." From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 16:43:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42E7106567A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from www.real-net.sk (mail.real-net.sk [212.108.204.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305778FC14 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:43:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91EE17EF053 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:43:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.1 (20080629) at real-net.sk Received: from www.real-net.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.real-net.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o3Ey4MtPhAw4 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:43:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (unknown [10.200.9.170]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA06A17EF047; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:43:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA2GhCgj074064; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:43:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: (from johnny64@localhost) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA2GhAqS074043; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:43:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) X-Authentication-Warning: georg.localdomain: johnny64 set sender to johnny64@swissjabber.org using -f Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:43:09 +0100 From: "(-K JohnNy" To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081102164309.GE3366@georg.localdomain> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6e7ZaeXHKrTJCxdu" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:43:20 -0000 --6e7ZaeXHKrTJCxdu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > the question should be "Is KDE usable at all on any OS?" > the answer is no, it's crappy imitation of windoze. >=20 > If someone needs windoze like soft, just buy windows vista. >=20 > For someone who need unix, FreeBSD is a good choice. I have to quote some random shoutbox I=C2=A7vre read a long time ago: "Narrow-minded is the only opinion worth expressing." You have to realize that this is the question of every user's individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are more GUI-oriented and like somewhat more graphic approach to the same tasks. Saying that some software is crap just because it distantly resembles some other soft and everybody using the soft you're criticizing should use the other one instead, is just... Stupid. Even more if you compare a desktop environment to a whole OS. So, please, stop forcing your opinions to others and let them choose for themselves. (-; --=20 (-K JohnNy alias Partial Derivative =E2=88=82 [home] http://johnny64.fixinko.sk/ [icq] 338328204 [abandoned] [jabber] JohnNy64@swissjabber.org [skype] JohnNy64-konik [abandoned] --6e7ZaeXHKrTJCxdu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkN2J0ACgkQ11l9uIBrcFSgTwCeNvzfH5x0Ue/nKl6MzIA15tpV nQwAnj91ePelUB+al6QAjRmAe+mwUEdp =5Arr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6e7ZaeXHKrTJCxdu-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 17:32:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC50C106564A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:32:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103D58FC18 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA2HWe4r018788; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:32:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA2HWeSt018785; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:32:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:32:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "(-K JohnNy" In-Reply-To: <20081102164309.GE3366@georg.localdomain> Message-ID: <20081102183212.G18776@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081102164309.GE3366@georg.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:32:48 -0000 > > You have to realize that this is the question of every user's > individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going > deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are > more GUI-oriented and like somewhat more graphic approach to the same > tasks. true. that's why there unix and there windows. don't mix. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 17:33:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7451065677 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B0C8FC1A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:33:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aGCi1a00S0bG4ec59HZPPA; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:33:23 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aHZM1a00B2P6wsM3PHZNlu; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:33:23 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=JAJ40K76N5JGR8_BJCgA:9 a=s_zkP2dtd9ssYEO5qEoA:7 a=pHQf-mWpLKjxFv4i7rY2QR2s-mgA:4 a=fgf5PR_cwQYA:10 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=x0uADENsyE8A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 49917C9419; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:33:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 09:33:21 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Sven Aluoor Message-ID: <20081102173321.GA97900@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Boris Samorodov , pyunyh@gmail.com, Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:33:24 -0000 On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 01:56:27PM +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: > On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0100 > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El día Sunday, November 02, 2008 a las 02:48:13AM +0300, Boris > > Samorodov escribió: > > > Seems that you may be interested at: > > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=343551+0+current/freebsd-current > > Hi Boris > > This link reference to an empty document > > > Known issues and FreeBSD work for the eeePC series are described here: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee > > > > HIH > > Hi Matthias > > Thanks for the wikipage. I quote from there: > > Atheros L1 FastEthernet > This one is second generation of L1 controller which is supposed to be > heavily modified by Atheros after acquiring Attansic. This controller > uses different bits/meaning in register layouts and seems to use > different descriptor formats. This is not supported by the age(4) > driver. > > In clear text: at the moment there is no driver available? Is this > correct? This might be applicable: I recently send Yong-Hyeon PYUN an Asus P5Q SE motherboard, solely to develop a driver for the Attansic L1 chip that's on the motherboard. After a few weeks he returned to me a driver called ate(4), which supports the Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 NICs. The description I got, as well as the driver: "Ok, here is a working driver, ate(4), for Atheros AR8121/AR8113 and AR8114. It passed minimal functional requirement of network driver of FreeBSD but it still needs more test and cleanups. I'm not sure you have hardwares to test ate(4) but if you have it give it a try. Note it seems that the hardware, at least AR8121, has checksum offload bug so I disabled Tx side checksum offload. TSO seems to work though. The Tx performance is 920Mbps or higher but Rx performance is 850~870 Mbps which is lower than Tx. It also requires a lot of CPU cycles to push the hardware to limit but I think it comes from hardware limitation not from ate(4) itself." There is absolutely no guarantee that this is the same exact NIC used on the Asus Eee, but there's a chance. This driver isn't publicly available yet, and I do not feel comfortable sending it to people here without Yong-Hyeon's permission. I've CC'd him so he can put it up on freebsd.org somewhere and let folks test it, assuming it will/does work with the Asus Eee. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 18:21:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EFB106564A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CB68FC0A for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:21:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40D71905E; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:21:27 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 13:21:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:21:17 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081102102117.0818f271@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <20081102183212.G18776@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081102164309.GE3366@georg.localdomain> <20081102183212.G18776@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "\(-K JohnNy" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:21:29 -0000 On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 18:32:39 +0100 (CET) Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > > You have to realize that this is the question of every user's > > individual needs. Some users, like for example yourself, like going > > deep, using the shell for tasks from everyday life, some users are > > more GUI-oriented and like somewhat more graphic approach to the > > same tasks. > > true. that's why there unix and there windows. > > don't mix. And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of people have moved over to using it. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 2 21:25:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0A01065687 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061928FC08 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 21:25:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KwkSC-000Jzp-Vv; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:25:49 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KwkSC-0000MI-LW; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:25:48 +0300 To: Sven Aluoor References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:25:48 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> (Sven Aluoor's message of "Sun\, 2 Nov 2008 13\:56\:27 +0100") Message-ID: <61138835@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:25:51 -0000 Sven Aluoor writes: > On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0100 > Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El d=C3=ADa Sunday, November 02, 2008 a las 02:48:13AM +0300, Boris >> Samorodov escribi=C3=B3: >> > Seems that you may be interested at: >> > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D343551+0+current/freebs= d-current > > Hi Boris > > This link reference to an empty document Hm, it seems to be changed: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D343551+0+archive/2008/freebs= d-current/20081102.freebsd-current Anyway here it is: ----- On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:48:45PM +0900, To freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org wr= ote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 01:06:37PM +0900, To freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org= wrote: > > I had been working on writing a driver for Atheros AR8121(L1E), > > AR8113/AR8114(L2E) ethernet controllers since Jeremy Chadwick sent > > the hardware to me. I think it's feature complete state and time > > for more testing for stability or some edge cases. I guess AR81xx > > is commonly found on newer Asus EeePC or P5Q series of Asus > > motherboard. If you have AR81xx controller would you give it spin > > and let me know how it goes? You can get the latest driver at the > > following URL. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ate/if_ate.c > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ate/if_atereg.h > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ate/if_atevar.h > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ate/Makefile > > or > > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ate/ate.20081030.tar.gz > > The driver should build without problems on CURRENT, stable/7. > >=20 > > ATM the driver supports the following hardware features. > > - TSO > > - Rx TCP/UDP/IP checksum offload > > - VLAN tag insertion/stripping > > - Jumbo frame > > - WOL > > It seems that hardware supports Tx checksum offload but I couldn't > > make it work for TCP segments. Only short TCP segments seem to work > > so I disabled Tx checksum offload. > > Note, the hardware does not support descriptor based DMA on Rx side > > so driver have to copy recevied frames to pass them to upper stack > > so it will consume a lot of CPU cycles if you push the hardware to > > the limit. > >=20 >=20 > As bruffer pointed out the device name chosen conflicts with other > driver in tree so I renamed it to ale(4).The URL for the driver is > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ale/if_ale.c > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ale/if_alereg.h > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ale/if_alevar.h > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ale/Makefile > or > http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/ale/ale.20081030.tar.gz > Sorry for confusion. FYI: There was a typo that keep ale(4) from building on stable/7. It was fixed now and I reuploaded related files(URLs are the same as before). --=20 Regards, Pyun YongHyeon ----- WBR --=20 Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 00:17:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0B1106564A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891968FC1F; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1186846tid.3 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:17:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received:date:from :to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=dyxGAn0/K6G1Y+hHBAFD4aSDyoSsxkixFB5MjDTFaMg=; b=a8nNTJwFhknmwVJArSW/UHm4GM1McM8DHwKJK6NFDhWZ/hTFOfcQwcuTFkcZ/E8vJw o4hlSnYUcVzCxcXUfl12FL3n7FR07OzcDHvkOc+Yevt8a/UeVIaJEy0JyCZhi+9PRk+X F62khjuw8CY8SmTWwUfd82USyuoqNHVdEhbjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=gRU8PONOiuR1vTZab0vjw5/S76CoVQKKRSud6vEV8tbbDrWj+A5+p0VhXUy6hdz5ZN QoWYnuAdq06MEAp02KEdiOEHvMUOnneB+T/5vurW/X/Wu52r5CdUadw0s/QwMAuc7qbu 4JPszTX1zAJXtDKz2js6m+q+k3MQ7DxW36eCs= Received: by 10.110.46.3 with SMTP id t3mr10730825tit.19.1225671465676; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr ([211.53.35.84]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm14686941tic.2.2008.11.02.16.17.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (localhost.cdnetworks.co.kr [127.0.0.1]) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id mA30FhoS094437 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:15:43 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Received: (from yongari@localhost) by michelle.cdnetworks.co.kr (8.13.5/8.13.5/Submit) id mA30FePd094436; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:15:40 +0900 (KST) (envelope-from pyunyh@gmail.com) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:15:40 +0900 From: Pyun YongHyeon To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081103001540.GA94302@cdnetworks.co.kr> References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> <20081102173321.GA97900@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081102173321.GA97900@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: Boris Samorodov , Matthias Apitz , Sven Aluoor , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pyunyh@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:17:48 -0000 On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 09:33:21AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 01:56:27PM +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 08:42:53 +0100 > > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El d?a Sunday, November 02, 2008 a las 02:48:13AM +0300, Boris > > > Samorodov escribi?: > > > > Seems that you may be interested at: > > > > http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=343551+0+current/freebsd-current > > > > Hi Boris > > > > This link reference to an empty document > > > > > Known issues and FreeBSD work for the eeePC series are described here: > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee > > > > > > HIH > > > > Hi Matthias > > > > Thanks for the wikipage. I quote from there: > > > > Atheros L1 FastEthernet > > This one is second generation of L1 controller which is supposed to be > > heavily modified by Atheros after acquiring Attansic. This controller > > uses different bits/meaning in register layouts and seems to use > > different descriptor formats. This is not supported by the age(4) > > driver. > > > > In clear text: at the moment there is no driver available? Is this > > correct? That's not true anymore. There *IS* a driver, ale(4). See below. > > This might be applicable: > > I recently send Yong-Hyeon PYUN an Asus P5Q SE motherboard, solely to > develop a driver for the Attansic L1 chip that's on the motherboard. > After a few weeks he returned to me a driver called ate(4), which > supports the Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 NICs. The description I > got, as well as the driver: > > "Ok, here is a working driver, ate(4), for Atheros AR8121/AR8113 > and AR8114. It passed minimal functional requirement of network > driver of FreeBSD but it still needs more test and cleanups. > I'm not sure you have hardwares to test ate(4) but if you have > it give it a try. Note it seems that the hardware, at least AR8121, > has checksum offload bug so I disabled Tx side checksum offload. > TSO seems to work though. > > The Tx performance is 920Mbps or higher but Rx performance > is 850~870 Mbps which is lower than Tx. It also requires a lot of > CPU cycles to push the hardware to limit but I think it comes from > hardware limitation not from ate(4) itself." > > There is absolutely no guarantee that this is the same exact NIC used on > the Asus Eee, but there's a chance. > One of FreeBSD developer also confirmed that ale(4) works on his Eeepc 1000H. :-) > This driver isn't publicly available yet, and I do not feel comfortable > sending it to people here without Yong-Hyeon's permission. I've CC'd > him so he can put it up on freebsd.org somewhere and let folks test it, > assuming it will/does work with the Asus Eee. > I've sent CFT to CURRENT ML and waiting for feedbacks from users. http://marc.info/?t=122533988800003&r=1&w=2 (For unknown reason archiving service of CURRENT ML does'nt seem to work. :-( ) I'm not subscribed to questions@ so please CC to me. -- Regards, Pyun YongHyeon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 00:22:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B83106564A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4998FC1C; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.1 anthesphoria.net mA3083iv023345 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anthesphoria.net; s=phero; t=1225670888; bh=mCoWPO3xsOqYce8RpLUcH1zODywKfbHeYfZe631UF /s=; l=1465; h=X-Bogosity:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:X-Face:X-Operating-System: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint:X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nM+1x36U3ikhPr5dMFWknZZx JuW5r8OsW6BeCDuG18JZUE7gZ5T4P/JV32kV2u1kxFOM5ho2ZA2sk8WqPMMI/V2QrL1 pO/CwRsKqAzfZPremVw13qi883Xn4Z3X2beh1MYazHy2uiEYJQkY5AkCjWA9Svc/H6I 0u5fL93il3k6Y= Received: from anthesphoria.net (adsl-200-199.eunet.yu [213.198.200.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA3083iv023345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 01:08:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 01:04:52 +0100 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Ivan Voras , Jeremy Chadwick , Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081103010452.6a1f0521@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE/i386 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver: x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:22:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:16:38 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: =20 > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:48:16AM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >=20 > >> What would be the fastest way to do that sector by sector copy? > >> I'm using dd right now, > >> > >> dd if=3D/dev/ad0 of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D10000000 >=20 > > On the flip side, your blocksize (bs) there is quite high for no > > good reason. I'd pick something more like bs=3D64k or bs=3D128k. The > > default (512) is too small for what you want, but 10MBytes is silly. >=20 > Not only that, but "10000000" isn't even correct - it needs to be a > multiple of sector size. Generally, using suffixes will do the right > thing: >=20 > dd if=3D/dev/ad0 of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D1m Would there be anything wrong in cat /dev/ad0 > /dev/da0 ? - --=20 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 =3D =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=9B=D0= =B5=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=9B fingerprint : FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iJwEAQEDAAYFAkkOQCsACgkQ/MM/0rYIoZjjHQQAhXi6gu5JhJjzZmE97buiZ15u Q6AT+qvAja6cALfGAGVrzJEzljfcbe3PnBdOnn1CTYbS62EHaVWLnvOKRGrpvzFE q/WxQ9qCRfcsSx3o6eKxfTM6d4b92ZP+d1iPotmzutQl8TbxlJxNTP9i2b6cDw6a au6zdoApH5A6UxyaJA8=3D =3DoFoQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 00:37:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97946106568B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7C18FC17 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1925214fgb.35 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:37:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DZOrRMCmsHuy6tzW+Htzb8dcYJ9iyzzakiwNAizM0JM=; b=V5EK6DlMEfkzdkqD63bar1uWDR8w1FiXhGeMgA3a/HJjuXfsUBCUKSKOjuA8IxYYPU Fn/cF8faMzdNkM2osdTfGXB5AG2brXFZzdJd113ozzBDUD5CIv08qda8BFm0PwQX13JE 2q4RpyFKDK4UxMHmicRInebHVk9NBYhaqb6KE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tD96ZhryrBaHPH+P9FX/JLlnTGWwqEWNS6o6IG01tb3rsxJAZZsgLScoelobCtk4BI evlJGlLA6BkzgRiqPXH5/DkweeqpfD369pb3afwvxsvmi/LGllG9SEj14Y/a7d8vpIsb /mzvKJiHiv74rNF0jd5FvvmjDVVb4uFCU8ieU= Received: by 10.181.20.6 with SMTP id x6mr1671580bki.167.1225672649779; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.36.5 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 16:37:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910811021637m44b8f613k9550837ca449e9d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:37:29 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "andrew clarke" In-Reply-To: <20081102163702.GA3921@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081030143327.GA6181@ozzmosis.com> <4908AAE4000014AD@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> <20081102163702.GA3921@ozzmosis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: alasdair@iprimus.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 00:37:31 -0000 On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM, andrew clarke wrote: > On Fri 2008-10-31 08:11:49 UTC+1100, alasdair@iprimus.com.au ( > alasdair@iprimus.com.au) wrote: > > > localhost# /usr/sbin/freebsd-update --debug fetch > > Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. > > Fetching public key from update1.FreeBSD.org... > > fetch: http://update1.FreeBSD.org/6.3-STABLE/i386/pub.ssl: Not Found > > Ah, this is not a DNS problem. > > You are trying to run freebsd-update from 6.3-STABLE. This isn't > supported. From the freebsd-update(8) manpage: > > "The FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in > binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD > 6.1-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RC1, but not FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE or FreeBSD > 7.0-CURRENT." > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > yeah I should have noticed the 6.3-STABLE but I did not From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 01:01:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E94D1065678 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 01:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7DC8FC0A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 01:01:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.61]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 2 Nov 2008 17:00:44 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:01:38 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20081102044003.GC2112@kokopelli.hydra> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 01:00:45.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[99F300C0:01C93D4F] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: RE: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:01:06 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Perrin Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster. I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it not working. Could not change the displayed time to from 20.00.00 to 8:00PM When I changed the resolution from the default to 800x600 and the refresh rate to 60.0 many of the applications did not auto fit to the new setting and the change would not carry over between logons. Some times the desktop just froze up and had to do alt-ctrl-backspace to force return to command line. When I changed the font type and size to use, the change would not carry over between logons. Could not find a way to remove items from the menu. Some icons would not display at all. Koffice was missing. Not all the application use the new window format which has the option to return to menu that launched it. Only has x out to return to desktop screen. Bottom line is imho kde4 is not stable, is not ready for general use. Needs more development and testing. Should only be contained in the development ports category. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 03:30:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852CD1065674 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709B68FC21 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 03:30:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.61]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:29:53 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:30:47 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 03:29:53.0526 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F9B9160:01C93D64] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:07:30 +0000 Cc: Subject: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:30:14 -0000 What port names need to be installed to create a XFCE4 desktop environment? I was looking for a mega port like kde3 has but could not identify one. Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 04:14:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E621065674 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 04:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D9C8FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 04:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so47494wag.27 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:14:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :from; bh=mOx2aME4sS/DBi4JxCiZgFU0jMob60jhefo12+LPX68=; b=VL2sfX2101UQea32H/+CUtFFU5Gis5fhdC3JG4vrA3pXflwBxzmeZL+ruBQgg5Vb0k cog0DiKkN8wSxtTjmMKXh7dH9wKfPjyFlyyo42qPiv+zPJL+lsQrARnDuGse3SpjI+de sccuUfPYVaMNYVZ/luPFLoj3CtajhFy1AG1PA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; b=AW2d31pJ89g6XUGBOwnuuo/B/DOWtZdEFNLo1qvZxaOlhl6NqSQLcbAonJ75cc3hEl F/OHMf2yV7F3jgEU93dGgoPwx/Qz9D94BA8ijU3HDBAvjUPU7hWNhqxyf/PKAQvnqUKN YvuPBFdddITyRxtsogxKus/txslpcJBpS97k4= Received: by 10.114.182.15 with SMTP id e15mr12412916waf.186.1225685660806; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? (ool-182d26f3.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.38.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n22sm11709743pof.4.2008.11.02.20.14.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:14:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <490E7A98.1050403@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:14:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eitan Adler Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:14:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 FBSD1 wrote: > What port names need to be installed to create a XFCE4 desktop environment? > I was looking for a mega port like kde3 has but could not identify one. > Thanks in advance. I'm going to rake a random guess: x11-wm/xfce4 ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkOepgACgkQtl8kq+nCzNGLwwCaA61ZDoYo6Le86unGDBOVH1l+ TH0An2Ely+QDOvNOPC6LZ0cynmfYhR1J =cxHT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:07:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E965F1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from gigi.cs.uoguelph.ca (gigi.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26228FC17 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:07:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (robin.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.49]) by gigi.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mA35rc5E024789 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:53:38 -0500 Received: from blizzard.lan (p149l1llp-d4-dynamic.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca [67.43.136.150]) (authenticated bits=0) by robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mA35r9jN004227 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:53:20 -0500 Message-Id: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> From: Andrew Berry To: Freebsd questions Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-423754164; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:52:53 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on robin.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.6 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO,J_CHICKENPOX_21,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.210 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.86 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: MySQL not restarted after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:07:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9-423754164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, For some reason, after running portupgrade databases/mysql51-server, MySQL is brought down, but not restarted. It's not a huge issue, as I just have to remember to run the rc.d script after upgrading, but I was wondering if anyone else had seen this? portupgrade seems to work fine with other daemons such as Apache and Courier IMAP. Thanks, --Andrew --Apple-Mail-9-423754164-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:22:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D531065672 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:22:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1CA8FC14 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aW3M1a00V17UAYkA4WMy7t; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:21:58 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aWMu1a0062P6wsM8ZWMuol; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:21:55 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=li9-SRu-D6cxcvuCvq0A:9 a=gs-2K-mWVjGzeJs5upmFfkdnHc0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AC9DAC9419; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:53 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Andrew Berry Message-ID: <20081103062153.GA12804@icarus.home.lan> References: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: MySQL not restarted after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:22:19 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:52:53AM -0500, Andrew Berry wrote: > For some reason, after running portupgrade databases/mysql51-server, > MySQL is brought down, but not restarted. It's not a huge issue, as I > just have to remember to run the rc.d script after upgrading, but I was > wondering if anyone else had seen this? portupgrade seems to work fine > with other daemons such as Apache and Courier IMAP. This is a per-port thing, unless portupgrade provides some form of rc.subr script restarting itself. There is no "standard" for this. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:29:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EAB106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381018FC1A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA36TY3u029530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:29:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA36TWZj029524; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:29:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:29:32 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Andrew Berry Message-ID: <20081103062932.GD47647@dan.emsphone.com> References: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: MySQL not restarted after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:29:35 -0000 In the last episode (Nov 03), Andrew Berry said: > For some reason, after running portupgrade databases/mysql51-server, > MySQL is brought down, but not restarted. It's not a huge issue, as I > just have to remember to run the rc.d script after upgrading, but I > was wondering if anyone else had seen this? portupgrade seems to work > fine with other daemons such as Apache and Courier IMAP. It's in the pkg-list. The first line is "@stopdaemon mysql-server", so any time you upgrade the port, it kills mysql. Enough ports do this, and it's so annoying, that I recommend just disabling it completely: --- bsd.port.mk 5 Sep 2008 19:41:43 -0000 1.604 +++ bsd.port.mk 8 Oct 2008 06:21:55 -0000 @@ -1588,10 +1588,9 @@ DATADIR=${DATADIR} DOCSDIR=${DOCSDIR} EXAMPLESDIR=${EXAMPLESDIR} \ WWWDIR=${WWWDIR} ETCDIR=${ETCDIR} -PLIST_REINPLACE+= dirrmtry stopdaemon rmtry +PLIST_REINPLACE+= dirrmtry rmtry PLIST_REINPLACE_DIRRMTRY=s!^@dirrmtry \(.*\)!@unexec rmdir %D/\1 2>/dev/null || true! PLIST_REINPLACE_RMTRY=s!^@rmtry \(.*\)!@unexec rm -f %D/\1 2>/dev/null || true! -PLIST_REINPLACE_STOPDAEMON=s!^@stopdaemon \(.*\)!@unexec %D/etc/rc.d/\1${RC_SUBR_SUFFIX} forcestop 2>/dev/null || true! # kludge to strip trailing whitespace from CFLAGS; # sub-configure will not # survive double space Some ports run the rc.d script themselves on uninstall (sysutils/hal, for exmaple), so you have to edit the pkg-plist file and remove the unexec line from those manually. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:30:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8501065676 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ragendra.Mishra@netapp.com) Received: from mx2.netapp.com (mx2.netapp.com [216.240.18.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE8058FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Ragendra.Mishra@netapp.com) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,534,1220252400"; d="scan'208,217";a="83288124" Received: from smtp1.corp.netapp.com ([10.57.156.124]) by mx2-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2008 22:02:52 -0800 Received: from svlrsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.57.115.31]) by smtp1.corp.netapp.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/NTAP-1.6) with ESMTP id mA362qlo022876 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from SACMVEXC2-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([10.99.115.18]) by svlrsexc2-prd.hq.netapp.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:02:52 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:02:50 -0800 Message-ID: <2E1EB2CF9ED1CB4AA966F0EB76EAB443016EDA75@SACMVEXC2-PRD.hq.netapp.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Issues in adding symbols in gdb - FreeBSD. Thread-Index: Ack6kq+ah6ypute7RKWEEMcX3nfYbwABzBy3AAI4WEAAAontYAACk5HwAACdXZEAAK4e0AAlfJgwAA3IyUAAAbl2QgAANIcAAAepXcoACsDfQABlrTYgAAIMmRA= From: "Mishra, Ragendra" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 06:02:52.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE7DD520:01C93D79] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FW: Issues in adding symbols in gdb - FreeBSD. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:31:00 -0000 =20 Having issues loading .ko modules. Gets the message ...(no debugging symbols found). =20 However, attempt to load .kld succeeds and following that .ko also works good. But soon after that, gets the follwoing message. =20 Ignoring packet error, continuing... Reply contains invalid hex digit -49 Ignoring packet error, c =20 Please let me know, if you have seen this or could guess of something.. =20 Build command:=20 make -m /usr/share/mk -m /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/mk DESTDIR=3D/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/install/md NO_PROFILE=3D1 = NO_SHARED=3D1 NOTAG=3D1 NOUPDATE=3D1 NOGET=3D1 OWNER=3Dragendra BLDROOT=3D/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x INTERNAL=3D1 LOCALCVSROOT=3D/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/ SYSDIR=3D/usr/src/sys = NONAS=3D1 DCR_PRODUCT=3Dsan PRODUCT=3Dsan -DDEBUG -DDCR_DEBUG STRIP=3D = KMODSTRIP=3D world=20 Loading Symbols: (gdb) add-symbol-file /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.ko 0x660F63DC add symbol table from file "/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.ko" at text_addr =3D 0x660f63dc? (y or n) y Reading symbols from /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.ko...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) add-symbol-file /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/dfcispfw/obj/dfcispfw.ko 0x663596D0 add symbol table from file "/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/dfcispfw/obj/dfcispfw.ko" at text_addr =3D 0x663596d0? (y or n) y Reading symbols from /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/dfcispfw/obj/dfcispfw.ko...(no debugging symbols found)...done. loading dfc.kld is successful=20 (gdb) add-symbol-file /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.kld 0x660F63DC add symbol table from file "/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.kld" at text_addr =3D 0x660f63dc? (y or n) y Reading symbols from /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.kld...done. (gdb) add-symbol-file /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.ko 0x660F63DC add symbol table from file "/disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.ko" at text_addr =3D 0x660f63dc? (y or n) y Reading symbols from /disk3/ragendra/src/B_SAN2x/dfc/kmod/dfc.ko...done. =20 =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:37:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13FE1065675 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4F08FC31 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.61]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:37:14 -0800 From: "joeb" To: "Eitan Adler" , Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:38:07 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <490E7A98.1050403@gmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 06:37:14.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B9C3890:01C93D7E] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:37:35 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 FBSD1 wrote: > What port names need to be installed to create a XFCE4 desktop environment? > I was looking for a mega port like kde3 has but could not identify one. > Thanks in advance. I'm going to rake a random guess: x11-wm/xfce4 ? _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eitan Adler Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:14 PM To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: XFCE4 Thank you for your random guess, but research of the ports system seem to indicate a whole suite of ports are needed to build a complete working environment. Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:47:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072461065674 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:47:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA648FC23 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1588687ika.3 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:47:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received :x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=W4cGZHncqfZJenEkmu2rFGH3Tbr1jT+eCeBntp7++oA=; b=x8hzM384q80qMGCokwWNawwfO4uId02ju2GEBRcZHEanhiwL8tJ4TQnWSIOvJ5TnD0 W+fFm8uPE1cmXWIWMxFkRDsZf0Jck/1Toz4DKdl+3DTcoR3GB6TFvFUV66wDMXyHwDFE FOxEtWb4JuYxHHGxE2rvZVnWvT4BnseaY/YQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=oFuPaqng5bLj97eJ0EQ+CYRFVi50Ggrku0BeRB5g1jC4CrI+tEoh3uN0fYkfk/OLRS RAK2aIE4k3E8t0oiU89quiaWYgPimI66tgQcR7l2hbtTUnUObfeSTicS0Jjv5kFu6sR2 FfwoFf3IJnPKDAqEloVdndBteJ4PPXMUZp4vo= Received: by 10.210.104.20 with SMTP id b20mr17188774ebc.20.1225692982877; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org ([85.175.24.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm13432614gve.3.2008.11.02.22.16.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org (yuri@darklight.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA36GIHr013619; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:16:18 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA36GIpV013618; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:16:18 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.homeunix.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:16:18 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Andrew Berry Message-ID: <20081103061618.GA99308@darklight.homeunix.org> References: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Freebsd questions Subject: Re: MySQL not restarted after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:47:03 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:52:53AM -0500, Andrew Berry wrote: > Hi, > > For some reason, after running portupgrade databases/mysql51-server, > MySQL is brought down, but not restarted. It's not a huge issue, as I > just have to remember to run the rc.d script after upgrading, but I was > wondering if anyone else had seen this? portupgrade seems to work fine > with other daemons such as Apache and Courier IMAP. > > Thanks, > --Andrew Apache and Courier IMAP are just not stopped during deinstall stage (IIRC). You can use AFTERINSTALL in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf to start MySQL after upgrade. HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:50:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0081065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2768FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so927644nfh.33 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:50:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=S+dRmgGOg5m6PZkGF4bCbVKvAh9HWDrQjlFuZUidwfY=; b=KIIzuq9NBKZQk3Ya8N9ZXTamfqLHa9DhuwXF7RXMwThcPs/EwDFdOTMJmNGC8fL8D2 HeoNn1mSJ7bkaVek7ip/qt7v6tzD+fEnz5+Lnr0OfLl/XpMoWirAHBV0ttTNeK/HtJEi P8CEXq2EeR89iXoltL47xYb2kzMBOdqIFROOk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZmvR0XI4c7EEeoEt7Bmu+nIPtUz2rLOHH5xfO1YARAzhXeDwDrmaDp0ScyDZ9jI3QH 14wtQ/X4hE3OoZk+RK12anv0TqzwIY9D1SreDLjkyYItQ5OnRRPdzvYXY1i3t8i2b3IG AnkQZuujatDrtF++3ivVGvMLPSbddELPyEp/4= Received: by 10.210.11.13 with SMTP id 13mr6126998ebk.176.1225695030043; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-4530635.home.otenet.gr [94.70.237.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i4sm34957961nfh.1.2008.11.02.22.50.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:50:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <490E9F32.2000204@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:50:26 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: joeb@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd@edvax.de, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:50:32 -0000 joeb wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > FBSD1 wrote: > >> What port names need to be installed to create a XFCE4 desktop >> > environment? > >> I was looking for a mega port like kde3 has but could not identify one. >> Thanks in advance. >> > > I'm going to rake a random guess: x11-wm/xfce4 ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eitan Adler > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:14 PM > To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG > Subject: Re: XFCE4 > > Thank you for your random guess, but research of the ports system seem to > indicate a whole suite of ports are needed to build a complete working > environment. > Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports > they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. > > It is not really a random guess, x11-wm/xfce4 is the metaport you need to build for a working XFCE4 environment. There are a couple of additional tools you may also wish to use in this environment. I would recommend graphics/ristretto for a lightweight image viewer, sysutils/thunar-volman-plugin to handle mounting of external media, sysutils/xfce4-battery-plugin if running on a laptop. Also, make sure to read: Section 5.7.4: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html For usb mounting: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/usb-disks.html For policy kit / hal settings: http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/halfaq.html and when compiling Thunar (the file manager) make sure to select FAM support from the options dialog. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:57:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26894106567D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A808FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA36l6ur082100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:47:07 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:02:55 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.399 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:57:05 -0000 On Monday 03 November 2008 08:38:07 joeb wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > FBSD1 wrote: > > What port names need to be installed to create a XFCE4 desktop > > environment? > > > I was looking for a mega port like kde3 has but could not identify one. > > Thanks in advance. > > I'm going to rake a random guess: x11-wm/xfce4 ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eitan Adler > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:14 PM > To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG > Subject: Re: XFCE4 > > Thank you for your random guess, but research of the ports system seem to > indicate a whole suite of ports are needed to build a complete working > environment. > Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports > they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. I don't know whether it's you or your email client, but your quoting is hideously broken. Please fix it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 06:57:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EF41065688 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:57:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0D18FC21 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A3250AD3; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:57:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA36vT3H001598; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:57:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:57:28 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Manolis Kiagias Message-Id: <20081103075728.cd0c79da.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <490E9F32.2000204@gmail.com> References: <490E9F32.2000204@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: joeb@a1poweruser.com, Eitan Adler , freebsd@edvax.de, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:57:33 -0000 On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:50:26 +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > It is not really a random guess, x11-wm/xfce4 is the metaport you need > to build for a working XFCE4 environment. This provides you will the basic functionalities of XFCE 4. You pointed out correctly that there are tools someone might want to install afterwards. You gave some good suggestions. > There are a couple of additional tools you may also wish to use in this > environment. I would recommend graphics/ristretto for a lightweight > image viewer, sysutils/thunar-volman-plugin to handle mounting of > external media, sysutils/xfce4-battery-plugin if running on a laptop. The sysutils category of the ports offers even more little plugins for operations and diagnostics that might be useful at some point. If you're interested, I'd recommend these articles to have a look at, in case you want a "standard look". :-) http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/10/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44/ http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/02/15/design-your-own-desktop-with-xfce-44-part-2/ Don't mind it's from a Linux blog, it will work in FreeBSD, too. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 08:05:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E81A3106564A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:05:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0AB8FC0A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:05:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA384ni5007305; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:04:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA384lab007302; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:04:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:04:47 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= In-Reply-To: <20081103010452.6a1f0521@anthesphoria.net> Message-ID: <20081103090433.Q7301@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <20081103010452.6a1f0521@anthesphoria.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Jeremy Chadwick , Christoph Kukulies , Ivan Voras , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:05:08 -0000 > Would there be anything wrong in > > cat /dev/ad0 > /dev/da0 > > ? small block size, IMHO 4kB with cat From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 08:06:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4821065670 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 920488FC1C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:06:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aWs11a0070mlR8UA4Y6aZV; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:06:34 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aY6Y1a0032P6wsM8XY6YAK; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:06:33 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=ReZUjW3jXryl7TGSNHAA:9 a=pLCwhy8h5ZkfkjTGuL8AcoYz1xkA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4A2E2C9419; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:06:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 00:06:32 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081103080632.GA15011@icarus.home.lan> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <20081103010452.6a1f0521@anthesphoria.net> <20081103090433.Q7301@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081103090433.Q7301@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Christoph Kukulies , Nikola Le??i?? , Ivan Voras , FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:06:34 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:04:47AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Would there be anything wrong in >> >> cat /dev/ad0 > /dev/da0 >> >> ? > > small block size, IMHO 4kB with cat Not to mention, doesn't cat operate on a character level and not a block level? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 09:06:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D91910656A8 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1364B8FC2B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:06:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:06:13 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA396Arv002548; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:06:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:06:10 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Yavuz Maslak Message-ID: <20081103090610.GA2517@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <580480006E6C4B4699FE89EBF5E38145@desktop2002> <20081031173310.GA2259@rebelion.Sisis.de> <5D5DA329DBBC4D628B3639AEEE7E8E15@desktop2002> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5D5DA329DBBC4D628B3639AEEE7E8E15@desktop2002> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 09:06:13.0196 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BA0D8C0:01C93D93] Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: about vi editor and turkish char X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:06:15 -0000 El día Saturday, November 01, 2008 a las 09:37:01PM +0200, Yavuz Maslak escribió: > > Hello, > > Where do I have to specify "LANG ... " expression to support any language > in VI ? > > Ok. I have no problem in many editors about that but I wish to learn for vi > . in sh or bash: $ LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 export LANG $ vim yourFileHere HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 09:50:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C9631065672; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:50:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FB528FC18; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:50:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA39o417007775; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:50:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA39o3It007772; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:50:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:50:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081103080632.GA15011@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081103104950.B7771@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490AC650.3000904@kukulies.org> <20081031110159.GA30244@icarus.home.lan> <20081103010452.6a1f0521@anthesphoria.net> <20081103090433.Q7301@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081103080632.GA15011@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Christoph Kukulies , Nikola Le??i?? , Ivan Voras , FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: fastest raw device copy? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:50:21 -0000 >>> ? >> >> small block size, IMHO 4kB with cat > > Not to mention, doesn't cat operate on a character level and not a block > level? it just do 4kB read. that's all From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 10:23:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0FDC10656D9 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpbuono@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55F48FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:23:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpbuono@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so2432557wfg.7 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:23:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=fgTlEISn/2ynAzeLQXfqRTFT3qIQElZb30svKudPow8=; b=YbsHZnP6pmYwvyPfqwLlkWokcNnX7+3N9Gx9cjmPZdUMnWN6eqzuOzFW0z0lOpa+mW PiAaR6Gl8EahhJtnz4RAl5fRPTXULHfXNme5B5rF/ueAlj80qON3elyQiqzlUqmMOy/I 1KUF/AiXmnjCx11F6epVy5lDoUzmsDPjHz6Tw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mvOvCTwYOfbh9jyl38Q9q8VILbIhEbQODTJ2TPFxm0iXIUX5AWqAqdP2sQvDNcSnIs yRDZOb7F4+pR4DLZUPYwKuOFzNQ7O0M264TrKF1RZBFedSH+w6dQynfh3R/Mv+B+qi7i OFo2YGWUF4UmEYxD2YckIZwQNPDTM8b65JqaU= Received: by 10.142.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr7094714wfb.339.1225707836348; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.156.1 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:23:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:23:56 +0100 From: "Gian Paolo Buono" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:23:58 -0000 Hi, from web ports I have see ( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=nagios-3&stype=all&sektion=all) that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my system the version nagios-3.0.3. Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands: cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex When the upgrade is finished, i run: portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present. This is my /etc/make.conf file: #############make.conf################# CPUTYPE= i686 CFLAGS= -O -pipe INSTALL= install -C SUP_UPDATE= yes SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 SUPHOST= cvsup18.FreeBSD.org SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile WRKDIRPREFIX= /var/tmp WITHOUT_GNOME= true WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES= true MAKE_IDEA= YES WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS= yes PERL_ARCH= mach NOPERL= yo NO_PERL= yo NO_PERL_WRAPPER= yo #############make.conf################# cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ? Thanks GianPaolo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 10:52:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BEA1065677 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:52:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) Received: from mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB588FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:52:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0CABdnDknAqBRz/2dsb2JhbAAIh3uLBbYVg1I X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,536,1220191200"; d="scan'208";a="153046697" Received: from 115.20-168-192.network.zzz.iprimus.net.au (HELO cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au) ([192.168.20.115]) by s95.int.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2008 21:51:58 +1100 Received: from [192.168.20.141] by cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:51:57 +1100 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:51:57 +1100 Message-ID: <4908AAE400004528@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> In-Reply-To: <28283d910811021637m44b8f613k9550837ca449e9d6@mail.gmail.com> From: alasdair@iprimus.com.au To: "matt donovan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:52:30 -0000 >-- Original Message -- >Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 19:37:29 -0500 >From: "matt donovan" >To: "andrew clarke" >Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems >Cc: alasdair@iprimus.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > >On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:37 AM, andrew clarke wrote: > >> On Fri 2008-10-31 08:11:49 UTC+1100, alasdair@iprimus.com.au ( >> alasdair@iprimus.com.au) wrote: >> >> > localhost# /usr/sbin/freebsd-update --debug fetch >> > Looking up update1.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found. >> > Fetching public key from update1.FreeBSD.org... >> > fetch: http://update1.FreeBSD.org/6.3-STABLE/i386/pub.ssl: Not Found >> >> Ah, this is not a DNS problem. >> >> You are trying to run freebsd-update from 6.3-STABLE. This isn't >> supported. From the freebsd-update(8) manpage: >> >> "The FreeBSD Security Team only builds updates for releases shipped in >> binary form by the FreeBSD Release Engineering Team, e.g., FreeBSD >> 6.1-RELEASE and FreeBSD 6.2-RC1, but not FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE or FreeBSD >> 7.0-CURRENT." >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >yeah I should have noticed the 6.3-STABLE but I did not Ok I see. How do I update from 6.3 STABLE to 7.0 STABLE ? I imagine there is a tool for that? Short of down loading the iso files and doing it from discs. Thanks for your patience!! Regards, Alasdair From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 13:14:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0551E1065670 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:14:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from www.real-net.sk (www.real-net.sk [212.108.204.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E878FC18 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:14:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB88117FC7F3 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:14:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.1 (20080629) at real-net.sk Received: from www.real-net.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.real-net.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FUqzP9YmXgsS for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:14:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (unknown [10.200.9.170]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE87B17FC7E5; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:14:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA3DEXf8090978; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:14:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: (from johnny64@localhost) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA3DET0t090975; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:14:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) X-Authentication-Warning: georg.localdomain: johnny64 set sender to johnny64@swissjabber.org using -f Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:14:28 +0100 From: "(-K JohnNy" To: alasdair@iprimus.com.au Message-ID: <20081103131428.GK3366@georg.localdomain> References: <28283d910811021637m44b8f613k9550837ca449e9d6@mail.gmail.com> <4908AAE400004528@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0FM4RQAc0jwHekq5" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4908AAE400004528@cpms02.int.iprimus.net.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:14:42 -0000 --0FM4RQAc0jwHekq5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Ok I see. How do I update from 6.3 STABLE to 7.0 STABLE ? I imagine there > is a tool for that? Short of down loading the iso files and doing it from > discs. Don't know if there is a tool for this, but the usual way is to make a RELENG-7 supfile, csup the 7-STABLE sources and build them. More on this subject in the handbook. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html > Thanks for your patience!! >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Alasdair --=20 (-K JohnNy alias Partial Derivative =E2=88=82 [home] http://johnny64.fixinko.sk/ [icq] 338328204 [abandoned] [jabber] JohnNy64@swissjabber.org [skype] JohnNy64-konik [abandoned] --0FM4RQAc0jwHekq5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkO+TQACgkQ11l9uIBrcFQ11gCgmC+WNB95gNz7jLMvX7O4jEnv DcEAnjpA3Zacxvtnu5oVh54btn3+is7i =ujE0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0FM4RQAc0jwHekq5-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:01:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05E2106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9122D8FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:01:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000ff800000220-3e-490f04440375 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:01:39 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081102102117.0818f271@tau.draftnet> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? Thread-Index: Ack9F7gozNZaHIsATn223QkQqNCmcgAo848g References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com><20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl><20081102164309.GE3366@georg.localdomain><20081102183212.G18776@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081102102117.0818f271@tau.draftnet> From: "Bob McConnell" To: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: RE: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:01:13 -0000 On Behalf Of Bruce Cran > And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the > user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of > people have moved over to using it. Yes, it appears to be very nice. The programmer in the next cube bought his own laptop just so he can use it, with MS-Windows running in a VM. But it can only be run on overpriced hardware available from a single supplier. Until there are multiple sources, I don't consider it worth evaluating. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:18:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCFF1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:18:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8278FC1C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:18:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000fd800000220-07-490f084d7b4a Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:18:53 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:17:20 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200811030902.56054.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4) Thread-Index: Ack9gWOU5/Jl79iRSyiO1FAS6TRZFgAO8Ruw References: <200811030902.56054.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Jonathan McKeown" , X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:18:27 -0000 On Behalf Of Jonathan McKeown On Monday 03 November 2008 08:38:07 joeb wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eitan Adler >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:14 PM >> To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com >> Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG >> Subject: Re: XFCE4 >> >> Thank you for your random guess, but research of the ports system seem to >> indicate a whole suite of ports are needed to build a complete working >> environment. >> Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports >> they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. >=20 > I don't know whether it's you or your email client, but your quoting is=20 > hideously broken. Please fix it. It's his email client. Microsoft Lookout will no longer do standard quoting and forces top posting of replies. I am also required to use it by our IT department policies and have to manually reformat each message I reply to. There used to be an option that could be set to get angle bracket quoting, but that disappeared in the update from MS-Office 2000 to 2003. The top line, "-----Original Message-----", is the clue that he is using the Microsoft client. That is its standard separator for all replies. Yes, it is a major pain. I really do prefer Thunderbird. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:32:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0228D1065678 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex34live@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 905A78FC2D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex34live@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1414895tid.3 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:32:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole :thread-index; bh=86v+hU8y2iPaleYRBplpLWSUPrzi45Sdu20yiQMtWuM=; b=OAhuNNAFqGdu/tmpBR0+kFAAPH+AbvEDNJyswVlPBid+uNyDJFcOmc8iUgm4ExLdzt an0YvpkMBQL6N9edAulAH9g52JLrm7DMcspmkNy2kVHTf5WIRu4ATjfu8g/vUGqomFFT m7gl0IQ9+43golfvafWmN0/QEwrbTz/Yje+bg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :x-mimeole:thread-index; b=g+A3Uz063cwvaE1FiPFTIJwTzr1F4Qf8Gctmmd2MDLHfNKx6SwTZZc3aUdmiU41Hls VUrJAlfQk76dFg9sN/aSXKIH7oOxp9B7Qjltdg+YB9951wy0MS+YuLh3QTZ9jZZBNt3k uB6UZ8P8o+RmjUkkX9UBKQtGbB4NDC7TvFBbc= Received: by 10.110.16.9 with SMTP id 9mr95106tip.54.1225720889129; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from inb ([221.217.179.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y3sm1001094tia.6.2008.11.03.06.01.26 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:01:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Zhang" To: "Questions" Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:01:21 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Ack9vKaEhSLNrFF/Q9a3XBtW3vi0uQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:32:17 -0000 Dear Support: I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. Thanks in advance. BR Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:43:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135410656AA for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail.eccotours.biz (mail.eccotours.co.za [196.36.10.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4824F8FC1B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.111.31] by mail.eccotours.biz with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kx0HS-0002uL-5F for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:19:46 +0200 Message-ID: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:19:45 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:43:37 -0000 Hiya New to BSD, Using FreeBSD 7. I need to build a test fileserver, but I want it to use Raid 5. Googling says I must use vinum. Looking in the ports I see its not available. The links / sites google suggests were moderately old, so my question is, whats the tool for raid? TIA Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:53:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7596A106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0E38FC1D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:53:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from sysadmin.hst.org.za (sysadmin.int.dbn.hst.org.za [10.1.1.20]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA3Ehm3R097523 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:43:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Health Systems Trust To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200811030902.56054.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> In-Reply-To: X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.399 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:53:47 -0000 On Monday 03 November 2008 16:17:20 Bob McConnell wrote: [Jonathan to joeb via freebsd-questions] > > I don't know whether it's you or your email client, but your quoting > > is hideously broken. Please fix it. > > It's his email client. Microsoft Lookout will no longer do standard > quoting and forces top posting of replies. I am also required to use it > by our IT department policies and have to manually reformat each message > I reply to. There used to be an option that could be set to get angle > bracket quoting, but that disappeared in the update from MS-Office 2000 > to 2003. > > The top line, "-----Original Message-----", is the clue that he is using > the Microsoft client. That is its standard separator for all replies. > Yes, it is a major pain. I really do prefer Thunderbird. I'm used to seeing the original message starting with its headers in the Outlook style - that's not what's confusing me here. joeb, I don't mean to be rude but I find your posts hard to read (and I've seen others comment so as well), because instead you somehow end up with the original headers AFTER the original message, which is unexpected, and your response after that again - looking as though it belongs to the original header block. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:55:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6288C106567B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93EE8FC23 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA3EtVFf034426; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:55:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:55:33 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE1FB@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd Thread-Index: Ack9vKaEhSLNrFF/Q9a3XBtW3vi0uQABmHwg References: From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Alex Zhang" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:55:34 -0000 >Dear Support: > >I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let = me >know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now?=20 > >And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. > >Thanks in advance. > >=20 >BR >Alex =20 The latest stable version is a release like 7.0 or 6.3 Both are at the final stages of being replaced by 7.1 and 6.4 You subscribe to the mailing list by going to the following URL: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/eresources.html= #ERESOURCES-MAIL =20 Select the list and on that page you'll see Subscribing to = freebsd-(listname) Fill in your e-mailadres and follow the instructions Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date: = 2-11-2008 19:08 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 14:56:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B364B106568D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:56:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF5E88FC17 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:56:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from "cyb."@gmx.net) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 03 Nov 2008 14:56:17 -0000 Received: from pD952E4E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO core2duo.local) [217.82.228.231] by mail.gmx.net (mp035) with SMTP; 03 Nov 2008 15:56:17 +0100 X-Authenticated: #4870692 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+AQDhs5LSAND5ZAjqdfpgRkgsr6+cy9Rg5EFFPmV P57srSUM7dyf1c Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:56:14 +0100 From: Andreas Rudisch To: "Alex Zhang" Message-Id: <20081103155614.1ccaa2a3.cyb.@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="PGP-SHA1"; boundary="Signature=_Mon__3_Nov_2008_15_56_14_+0100_8p2cmmfee0HCWqOj" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Cc: Questions Subject: Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:56:20 -0000 --Signature=_Mon__3_Nov_2008_15_56_14_+0100_8p2cmmfee0HCWqOj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:01:21 +0800 "Alex Zhang" wrote: > I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me > know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now?=20 http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html > And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions Andreas -- GnuPG key : 0x2A573565 | http://www.gnupg.org/howtos/de/ Fingerprint: 925D 2089 0BF9 8DE5 9166 33BB F0FD CD37 2A57 3565 --Signature=_Mon__3_Nov_2008_15_56_14_+0100_8p2cmmfee0HCWqOj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPERAACgkQ8P3NNypXNWXTlgCdH63g/NhP9tqZy/+9S6G0Q/Fd 4OsAn2vAUddn0nhDqpsCuem44WEJ2ewx =l/Um -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Mon__3_Nov_2008_15_56_14_+0100_8p2cmmfee0HCWqOj-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:07:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55071065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:07:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D35E8FC21 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so1662530ugs.39 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:07:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.23.20 with SMTP id a20mr87548muj.128.1225724853545; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.10? (ip-77-25-67-204.web.vodafone.de [77.25.67.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm27462957mug.7.2008.11.03.07.07.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:07:33 -0800 (PST) References: <200811030902.56054.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <200811031659.39326.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Message-Id: <1DB1F935-10CD-461B-80EA-4452FB9CAFF0@nognu.de> From: Frank Steinborn To: Jonathan McKeown In-Reply-To: <200811031659.39326.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPod Mail (5F137) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPod Mail 5F137) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:07:19 +0100 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:07:43 -0000 That's wrong. Am 03.11.2008 um 15:59 schrieb Jonathan McKeown : > On Monday 03 November 2008 16:17:20 Bob McConnell wrote: > > [Jonathan to joeb via freebsd-questions] >>> I don't know whether it's you or your email client, but your quoting >>> is hideously broken. Please fix it. >> >> It's his email client. Microsoft Lookout will no longer do standard >> quoting and forces top posting of replies. I am also required to >> use it >> by our IT department policies and have to manually reformat each >> message >> I reply to. There used to be an option that could be set to get angle >> bracket quoting, but that disappeared in the update from MS-Office >> 2000 >> to 2003. >> >> The top line, "-----Original Message-----", is the clue that he is >> using >> the Microsoft client. That is its standard separator for all replies. >> Yes, it is a major pain. I really do prefer Thunderbird. > > I'm used to seeing the original message starting with its headers in > the > Outlook style - that's not what's confusing me here. > > joeb, I don't mean to be rude but I find your posts hard to read > (and I've > seen others comment so as well), because instead you somehow end up > with the > original headers AFTER the original message, which is unexpected, > and your > response after that again - looking as though it belongs to the > original > header block. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:09:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94A61065672 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE478FC14 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:09:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mA3F9GFv083710; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:09:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:09:15 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Brent Clark Subject: Re: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:09:18 -0000 On Monday 03 November 2008 09:19:45 am Brent Clark wrote: > New to BSD, Using FreeBSD 7. > I need to build a test fileserver, but I want it to use Raid 5. > Googling says I must use vinum. You have a few options, but strictly speaking the best-supported way to do RAID5 in FreeBSD is to use gvinum (vinum's GEOM-ified successor). It is part of the base system and not in ports. There is also an unofficial geom_raid5 module, but last I was aware it still had some issues (and you'd have to grab the source and built it manually). > Looking in the ports I see its not available. The links / sites google > suggests were moderately old, so my question is, whats the tool for > raid? If you replace "raid5" with "redundancy and n-1 capacity" then you could also look at geom_raid3, which is much simpler to configure than gvinum and also part of the base system. Additionally, FreeBSD 7.x has experimental support for ZFS (again in the base system and not in ports). That includes raidz, which is designed to have all of the good features of raid5 and none of the bad. I use it and it works well but you will need to do some reading and some manual tuning of your system. You'll also want a system with plenty of RAM and preferrably running FreeBSD-amd64 (vs FreeBSD-i386). If you want to look in to RAID1 or RAID1+0 see geom_mirror and geom_stripe, also in the base system. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:10:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ECC1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:10:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF2B8FC13 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steinex@nognu.de) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so1663674ugs.39 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.3 with SMTP id g3mr237456fga.26.1225725042171; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.58.8 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:10:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:10:42 +0100 From: "Frank Steinborn" To: "Jonathan McKeown" In-Reply-To: <1DB1F935-10CD-461B-80EA-4452FB9CAFF0@nognu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200811030902.56054.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <200811031659.39326.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <1DB1F935-10CD-461B-80EA-4452FB9CAFF0@nognu.de> Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Broken quoting (was Re: XFCE4) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:10:44 -0000 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Frank Steinborn wrote: > > That's wrong. > > > Am 03.11.2008 um 15:59 schrieb Jonathan McKeown > : > >> On Monday 03 November 2008 16:17:20 Bob McConnell wrote: >> >> [Jonathan to joeb via freebsd-questions] >>>> >>>> I don't know whether it's you or your email client, but your quoting >>>> is hideously broken. Please fix it. >>> >>> It's his email client. Microsoft Lookout will no longer do standard >>> quoting and forces top posting of replies. I am also required to use it >>> by our IT department policies and have to manually reformat each message >>> I reply to. There used to be an option that could be set to get angle >>> bracket quoting, but that disappeared in the update from MS-Office 2000 >>> to 2003. >>> >>> The top line, "-----Original Message-----", is the clue that he is using >>> the Microsoft client. That is its standard separator for all replies. >>> Yes, it is a major pain. I really do prefer Thunderbird. >> >> I'm used to seeing the original message starting with its headers in the >> Outlook style - that's not what's confusing me here. >> >> joeb, I don't mean to be rude but I find your posts hard to read (and I've >> seen others comment so as well), because instead you somehow end up with >> the >> original headers AFTER the original message, which is unexpected, and your >> response after that again - looking as though it belongs to the original >> header block. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I'm sorry, this was not intended to go to you Jonathan, nor to the list. I messed something up here. Sorry. Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:19:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55C71065688 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:19:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from mail.eccotours.biz (mail.eccotours.biz [196.36.10.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB90C8FC14 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:19:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brentgclarklist@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.111.31] by mail.eccotours.biz with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kx1DF-0003Yj-UR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:19:30 +0200 Message-ID: <490F1681.5020607@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:19:29 +0200 From: Brent Clark User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081018) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> In-Reply-To: <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:19:32 -0000 John Nielsen wrote: > If you replace "raid5" with "redundancy and n-1 capacity" then you could > also look at geom_raid3, which is much simpler to configure than gvinum > and also part of the base system. Additionally, FreeBSD 7.x has > experimental support for ZFS (again in the base system and not in ports). > That includes raidz, which is designed to have all of the good features > of raid5 and none of the bad. I use it and it works well but you will > need to do some reading and some manual tuning of your system. You'll > also want a system with plenty of RAM and preferrably running > FreeBSD-amd64 (vs FreeBSD-i386). > > If you want to look in to RAID1 or RAID1+0 see geom_mirror and > geom_stripe, also in the base system. > > JN Hiya Thanks for this. I was looking at ZFS and I am impress with what I read, unfortunately no AMD 64 and I only have 1Gig Ram. Thanks again. Regards Brent Clark From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:28:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB981065680 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A2988FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id adwv1a06l0ldTLk57fTxEP; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:28:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id afUP1a0052P6wsM3QfUPDC; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:28:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=BR70olvxHpEn-JQxuE4A:9 a=O9y3NvdfyzzylShzvb7FMX4DklwA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D227AC9419; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:28:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:28:22 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Brent Clark Message-ID: <20081103152822.GA23251@icarus.home.lan> References: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> <490F1681.5020607@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490F1681.5020607@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:28:29 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 05:19:29PM +0200, Brent Clark wrote: > John Nielsen wrote: >> If you replace "raid5" with "redundancy and n-1 capacity" then you >> could also look at geom_raid3, which is much simpler to configure than >> gvinum and also part of the base system. Additionally, FreeBSD 7.x has >> experimental support for ZFS (again in the base system and not in >> ports). That includes raidz, which is designed to have all of the good >> features of raid5 and none of the bad. I use it and it works well but >> you will need to do some reading and some manual tuning of your system. >> You'll also want a system with plenty of RAM and preferrably running >> FreeBSD-amd64 (vs FreeBSD-i386). >> >> If you want to look in to RAID1 or RAID1+0 see geom_mirror and >> geom_stripe, also in the base system. >> >> JN > > Hiya > > Thanks for this. I was looking at ZFS and I am impress with what I read, > unfortunately no AMD 64 and I only have 1Gig Ram. You can use ZFS on i386 and with 1GB RAM. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:28:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6AEB1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from www.real-net.sk (ftp.real-net.sk [212.108.204.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 522F88FC1D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:28:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1E117FDEEA for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.1 (20080629) at real-net.sk Received: from www.real-net.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (www.real-net.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AwnUUOvPD-r5 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:28:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (unknown [10.200.9.170]) by www.real-net.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA2FC17FDECA; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:28:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from georg.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA3FSmRK005322; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:28:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) Received: (from johnny64@localhost) by georg.localdomain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA3FSlTA005320; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:28:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from johnny64@swissjabber.org) X-Authentication-Warning: georg.localdomain: johnny64 set sender to johnny64@swissjabber.org using -f Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:28:46 +0100 From: "(-K JohnNy" To: Brent Clark Message-ID: <20081103152846.GM3366@georg.localdomain> References: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> <490F1681.5020607@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Pz/qqzCPDfGwIFOg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490F1681.5020607@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:28:58 -0000 --Pz/qqzCPDfGwIFOg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Thanks for this. I was looking at ZFS and I am impress with what I read,= =20 > unfortunately no AMD 64 and I only have 1Gig Ram. I can tell you I'm using ZFS on an i386 desktop with 1 GB RAM and it is working flawlessly after some tuning, more specifically: # For ZFS vm.kmem_size=3D"521M" vm.kmem_size_max=3D"512M" vfs.zfs.arc_min=3D"16M" vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D"64M" vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size=3D"5M" vfs.zfs.debug=3D1 vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D"1" in /boot/loader.conf.local Today it finished the compilation openoffice.org-alllangs-3.0.0 successfully (after 1 day and 14:42:21). Before tuning the options I have, there were some problems and the machine used to hang after some 3 or 4 hours of compilation but from the moment I added the options on I didn't have a single crash of the machine. So maybe you could still give it a try...? (-; Michal Petrucha > Thanks again. >=20 > Regards > Brent Clark --=20 (-K JohnNy alias Partial Derivative =E2=88=82 [home] http://johnny64.fixinko.sk/ [icq] 338328204 [abandoned] [jabber] JohnNy64@swissjabber.org [skype] JohnNy64-konik [abandoned] --Pz/qqzCPDfGwIFOg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPGK4ACgkQ11l9uIBrcFSJ1gCgnZL1ONISpWA8bzmSnjOu8+LV AS4An3hHzxTUFfcIAXjO/9pyHbhbARhV =A0Jj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Pz/qqzCPDfGwIFOg-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:36:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BA3106567F for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491968FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:36:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA3FX4R3030436; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:33:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA3FX3v8030435; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:33:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:33:03 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: joeb Message-ID: <20081103153303.GA30359@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <490E7A98.1050403@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd@edvax.de, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:36:43 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 02:38:07PM +0800, joeb wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > FBSD1 wrote: > > What port names need to be installed to create a XFCE4 desktop > environment? > > I was looking for a mega port like kde3 has but could not identify one. > > Thanks in advance. > > I'm going to rake a random guess: x11-wm/xfce4 ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Eitan Adler > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:14 PM > To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG > Subject: Re: XFCE4 > > Thank you for your random guess, but research of the ports system seem to > indicate a whole suite of ports are needed to build a complete working > environment. > Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports > they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. If there are dependancies, then, if you install/build from ports, it should pull in all the dependancies, build and install them automatically from the xfce4 port build. That is what is so nice with the port system - or one of the big things anyway. Other than that, I don't understand what you could be asking. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 15:56:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC8E106567D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:56:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12368FC18 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:56:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A97AFCF21; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 06:56:22 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, joeb@a1poweruser.com Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:56:02 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811031656.02634.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd@edvax.de Subject: Re: XFCE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:56:24 -0000 On Monday 03 November 2008 07:38:07 joeb wrote: > Waiting for a real user to fill in the details of what combination of ports > they used to build their XFCE4 desktop. Xfce is not much more then a window manager. It does not come with a suite of various desktop applications like gnome and KDE. So, x11-wm/xfce4 is the right meta port. Others have suggested some additional applications and gnome/kde applications will work with Xfce seamlessly. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:09:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E8E106567E for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:09:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aluoor@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57038FC2B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aluoor@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2463445rvf.43 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:09:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mMJ5V7uAbYzj1DS4Hf6vY/E8QugVLw7NlpaOz9NpBz8=; b=v4slP4By2sWPdf7HJEDmlnPiV1lvLZAJ/LIdjESm/7pVLoUi/QM9TAYn1skU+UDHGC MNtBCZwvbPrYmFAbUn/Kux9lgdTCSkLV5HHN1i4zKtDg1U/LUKrQUwFzExFRJsl6ViAC 5/1BqRoNMcjVlRi0tM0APNjnyIycaN5wcQvnI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rqDvPz8nMvMeWSmO23cFWDPXvUmbYz+FYqGdv1Sb+R+REzSWgyzvdr84DSwitrZCnm Q74TYLzHWXUbgi+18ycmjcAJtxBRO916SDvJNzSUC3GrwGuKsaR0kjYVX4DuL9u67Go0 4+Skyofi7oZOfxlekXq1uydnAVtFnqmkzodbo= Received: by 10.141.197.8 with SMTP id z8mr166735rvp.157.1225728573388; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:09:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.66.20 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:09:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6317d8990811030809x23366946mda8909a713cb0982@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:09:33 +0100 From: Sven To: pyunyh@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20081103001540.GA94302@cdnetworks.co.kr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081101234311.9bc42999.aluoor@gmail.com> <16517938@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081102074253.GA1822@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081102135627.2ff984ff.aluoor@gmail.com> <20081102173321.GA97900@icarus.home.lan> <20081103001540.GA94302@cdnetworks.co.kr> Cc: Boris Samorodov , Jeremy Chadwick , Matthias Apitz , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Eeepc 1000h X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:09:34 -0000 On 11/3/08, Pyun YongHyeon wrote: > > > In clear text: at the moment there is no driver available? Is this > > > correct? > That's not true anymore. There *IS* a driver, ale(4). See below. > I've sent CFT to CURRENT ML and waiting for feedbacks from users. > http://marc.info/?t=122533988800003&r=1&w=2 > (For unknown reason archiving service of CURRENT ML does'nt seem to > work. :-( ) > I'm not subscribed to questions@ so please CC to me. Hi Pyun Thanks for the information and your contribution. I will test the driver next weekend. kind regards Sven From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:25:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B12B1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from mailhub.cs.uoguelph.ca (mailhub.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.94.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCACF8FC1E for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewberry@sentex.net) Received: from robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (robin.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.93.49]) by mailhub.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id mA3GP2HU017332 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:25:02 -0500 Received: from [10.1.53.82] (69-196-186-240.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.186.240]) (authenticated bits=0) by robin.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id mA3GOToR030582 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:24:59 -0500 Resent-Message-Id: <200811031624.mA3GOToR030582@robin.cs.uoguelph.ca> Resent-To: Freebsd questions From: Andrew Berry To: Yuri Pankov In-Reply-To: <20081103061618.GA99308@darklight.homeunix.org> Resent-From: Andrew Berry References: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> <20081103061618.GA99308@darklight.homeunix.org> Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:24:58 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:24:28 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.000004 (http://www.spamassassin.org/) on robin.cs.uoguelph.ca X-Spam-Score: hits=0.8 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Tests: SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Status: Suspected X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 131.104.94.205 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 172.17.94.86 Cc: Subject: Re: MySQL not restarted after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:25:04 -0000 On 3-Nov-08, at 1:16 AM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > Apache and Courier IMAP are just not stopped during deinstall stage > (IIRC). You can use AFTERINSTALL in /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf to > start MySQL after upgrade. Thanks! There's even an example using mysql-server in the file. My AFTERINSTALL is now: AFTERINSTALL = { # Re-enable the X wrapper 'x11-servers/XFree86-4-Server' => sprintf( 'cd %s/bin && if [ -x Xwrapper-4 ]; then ln -sf Xwrapper-4 X; fi', x11base()), # Automatically start MySQL server 'databases/mysql51-server' => proc { |origin| cmd_enable_rc(origin) + ';' + cmd_start_rc(origin) }, } --Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:38:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3E21065687 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) Received: from rex.goodking.ca (cl-444.chi-02.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4978:f:1bb::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4908FC17 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) Received: from goodking6 (goodking6 [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:117::2]) by rex.goodking.ca (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA3Gcdnq015299 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:38:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from tabthorpe@freebsd.org) From: Thomas Abthorpe Organization: FreeBSD.GoodKing.Ca To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: /|[9,PbEOB6g>?2^*Sc|"~6:Ro"O>Nv\Rfkv\42g)=?utf-8?q?TuAYG=26+bD=5CpCJTX31s=5Fp=7Bc7=5D5a=2ED=2E=0A=09Y?=@QddKu_I[XB8; euK=^[=L1I#]rgi[0jgz^4qCTwlj]3kJ)]vc}O"HrA14hN)=?utf-8?q?aXewJPTi=7C=0A=09Pt=7BS3=23Vw4x-?="/:& X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (rex.goodking.ca [IPv6:2001:4978:f:1bb::2]); Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:38:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:38:41 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On November 2, 2008 08:01:38 pm FBSD1 wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? > > > Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop > verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster. > > > I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it > not working. > Could not change the displayed time to from 20.00.00 to 8:00PM > When I changed the resolution from the default to 800x600 and the refresh > rate to 60.0 many of the applications did not auto fit to the new setting > and the change would not carry over between logons. > Some times the desktop just froze up and had to do alt-ctrl-backspace to > force return to command line. > When I changed the font type and size to use, the change would not carry > over between logons. > Could not find a way to remove items from the menu. > Some icons would not display at all. > Koffice was missing. > Not all the application use the new window format which has the option to > return to menu that launched it. Only has x out to return to desktop > screen. > > Bottom line is imho kde4 is not stable, is not ready for general use. Needs > more development and testing. Should only be contained in the development > ports category. > > I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I would encourage you to check out the following resources http://freebsd.kde.org http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4 Certainly, if my word is not good enough, the nice folks over at PC-BSD, http://www.pcbsd.org, sure have bundled up a nice package based on FreeBSD 7 and KDE4. Thomas - -- Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer tabthorpe@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPKQ0ACgkQ5Gm/jNBp8qDLVQCdFw1phHPuvEn4bCaScIKzQfXs OY0AnAzXFKTql/rM/uPFIcmKVqutv8zE =X40c -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:42:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39A41065680 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:42:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EDC8FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:42:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA3GgFCk010409; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:42:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA3GgDQj010406; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:42:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:42:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Brent Clark In-Reply-To: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081103174146.J10405@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:42:24 -0000 > New to BSD, Using FreeBSD 7. > I need to build a test fileserver, but I want it to use Raid 5. Googling > says I must use vinum. there is geom_raid5 available but not integrated with FreeBSD google,download,compile,use > > Looking in the ports I see its not available. The links / sites google > suggests were moderately old, so my question is, whats the tool for raid? > > TIA > > Regards > Brent Clark > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:43:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D6D106567B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4A18FC33 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA3GhF4K010416; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:43:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA3GhDXZ010413; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:43:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:43:13 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: John Nielsen In-Reply-To: <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> Message-ID: <20081103174229.T10405@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <490F0881.2030809@gmail.com> <200811031009.15922.lists@jnielsen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Brent Clark , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: raid tool X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:43:22 -0000 > If you replace "raid5" with "redundancy and n-1 capacity" then you could > also look at geom_raid3, which is much simpler to configure than gvinum and slower with random reads. if he needs it for large files, then it's excellent. > and also part of the base system. Additionally, FreeBSD 7.x has > experimental support for ZFS (again in the base system and not in ports). > That includes raidz, which is designed to have all of the good features > of raid5 and none of the bad. it gives performance of raid3 rather than raid5. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:56:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879E11065674 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C028FC18 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA3Gqc3o030681; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:52:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA3Gqc0w030680; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:52:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:52:38 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Alex Zhang Message-ID: <20081103165237.GC30359@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Questions Subject: Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:56:01 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:01:21PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: > Dear Support: > > I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let me > know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? > > And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. > > Thanks in advance. > All of this is well documented on the FreeBSD website (www.freebsd.org) For informatino on the mailing lists, go to: http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html or http://lists.FreeBSD.org/mailman/listinfo and look around. The version setup in FreeBSD can be a little confusing for newcomers because the terms stable and current are used in very specific ways - formally defined rather than in the more loose general conversation way we often use them. Current is the bleeding edge of development work - nothing is guaranteed and stable is the development branch that is actually intended to eventually become the next new version -- rather than current being the official present version out or stable being the most reliable version as one might guess from just the words before studying the documentation.. Check this part of the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html If you are a FreeBSD beginning, what you want is a RELEASE version. The latest at the moment are 6.3 and 7.0 In the present form of the web page, the latest RELEASEs plus the next two are listed right there on the first page. Other information on upcoming releases can be found on the Release Engineering page: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html By the way, "releng" stands for Release Engineering here and when you track a version for security updates you track a RELENG version. So, if you installed FreeBSD 7.1, then in your csupfile you would put: *default tag=RELENG_7_1 That would get you the security updates for FreeBSD 7.1 If you wanted to jump up to stable you would put: *default tag=RELENG_7 and that would be the stable version of the FreeBSD 7 branch. But, the funny thing about it is that the STABLE line is not mean that it is actually stable. They try to assure that it compiles and builds. And, usually it is pretty good. But it hasn't gone through all the official builds and been run against all the known problem sets as has a RELEASE when it is 'released'. So, for now, just install a RELEASE - probably 7.1 if you can wait or 7.0 right now and track the security fixes by csup-ing to RELENG_7_1 or RELENG_7_0 Have fun, ////jerry ////jerry > > > BR > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 16:59:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F6C1065676 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7644C8FC14 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A12911A2D89 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:40:03 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61791-08 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:40:03 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0002211A2D88 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:40:02 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:40:01 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: copying 'holey' files ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:59:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have a disk img for qemu that is 4G, but disk usage is only 650M ... due to how the image is created, it will grow to 4G, but only uses as much as it needs ... but, if I run a simple 'cp' on the file, it goes from: image: debian.img file format: raw virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) disk size: 652M to: image: dtc.img file format: raw virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) disk size: 4.0G Is there a way of moving things around such that it *maintains* the holes, instead of fills them in? Thx - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPKWEACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNJIwCeOTgfxMEf/g/7bnFehXlDZAva dCwAoJL8sNsCD+h3PnJAAzebAQFsHhfa =fcAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:04:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA9F106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datahead4@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDDD8FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from datahead4@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1053363nfh.33 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:04:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7x/W3svI7NnhP1Jo3RnJKQqUEsrIRwrInql7PW+kdJE=; b=gq0UlD9LHnIeVPwrWxOzxQRd0kUdx52LwuBMItokL5Ze4pla8PjanByxHYvTrHJ3zr yzP6pkNtD4XKnPzQUsmQhR9I+j/GoLTf29rI8VI1Xfb8ipkyQH2/RvCA61TYrOqKY97E C+U2X1EJ4xG3AhO9Dp8rnmJ7TNIqUxQe7e9WE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=V5QsvVjki9uEl4zAGA7pN9uMlozrAEh/o/ea17K5+UzzaSgssYPiPRBV23CDFfsnbT F0W6eNZMblFRBf8Z45M2qHMOrZeeRafSCHTJwaE9KC8mFRAQW0cCPtltJoF6wGsoQT/Q JCNYii2fhy0gZ2xWiy7Iehnonlvzi7igMKlnQ= Received: by 10.210.37.11 with SMTP id k11mr356561ebk.153.1225731862183; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.134.8 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:04:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:04:22 -0600 From: Matt To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying 'holey' files ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:04:23 -0000 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > I have a disk img for qemu that is 4G, but disk usage is only 650M ... due to > how the image is created, it will grow to 4G, but only uses as much as it needs > ... but, if I run a simple 'cp' on the file, it goes from: > > image: debian.img > file format: raw > virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) > disk size: 652M > > to: > > image: dtc.img > file format: raw > virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) > disk size: 4.0G > > Is there a way of moving things around such that it *maintains* the holes, > instead of fills them in? > The "qemu-img" program using the "convert" command should do what you want it to. I've used it to make copies of qcow-format disks without having them grow to their max-size. Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:12:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD011065678 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay09.ispgateway.de (smtprelay09.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE238FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [88.153.0.16] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay09.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kx2yS-0008Qq-EY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:12:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:12:14 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081103181214.1adafa2b@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/6l_Hy92jvYkJ5m6jUOcSawA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Df-Sender: 775067 Subject: Re: copying 'holey' files ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:12:22 -0000 --Sig_/6l_Hy92jvYkJ5m6jUOcSawA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Marc G. Fournier" wrote: > I have a disk img for qemu that is 4G, but disk usage is only 650M ... du= e to=20 > how the image is created, it will grow to 4G, but only uses as much as it= needs=20 > ... but, if I run a simple 'cp' on the file, it goes from: >=20 > image: debian.img > file format: raw > virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) > disk size: 652M >=20 > to: >=20 > image: dtc.img > file format: raw > virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) > disk size: 4.0G >=20 > Is there a way of moving things around such that it *maintains* the holes= ,=20 > instead of fills them in? Quoting dd(1): | conv=3Dvalue[,value ...] | Where value is one of the symbols from the following list. [...] | sparse If one or more output blocks would consist solely of | NUL bytes, try to seek the output file by the required | space instead of filling them with NULs, resulting in a | sparse file. I haven't actually tested it with qemu images, though. Fabian --Sig_/6l_Hy92jvYkJ5m6jUOcSawA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPMO4ACgkQBYqIVf93VJ1AngCfYPUvWuqNSLF4IZdINybQvgy8 MfEAoKvWf0GAzXA3PrWcKHWwh/ni1udt =jCjf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/6l_Hy92jvYkJ5m6jUOcSawA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:12:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510A310656B4 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2042D8FC18 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:12:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C38D11A2D84; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:12:32 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 67385-07; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:12:32 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E176011A2D7B; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:12:31 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:12:30 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Matt Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying 'holey' files ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:12:33 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sweet, never even thought about doing that ... thank you ... - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 11:04:22 -0600 Matt wrote: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> I have a disk img for qemu that is 4G, but disk usage is only 650M ... due to >> how the image is created, it will grow to 4G, but only uses as much as it >> needs ... but, if I run a simple 'cp' on the file, it goes from: >> >> image: debian.img >> file format: raw >> virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) >> disk size: 652M >> >> to: >> >> image: dtc.img >> file format: raw >> virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) >> disk size: 4.0G >> >> Is there a way of moving things around such that it *maintains* the holes, >> instead of fills them in? >> > The "qemu-img" program using the "convert" command should do what you > want it to. I've used it to make copies of qcow-format disks without > having them grow to their max-size. > > Matt - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:22:57 -0000 --Sig_/R..YAgLArt.rStfuEaO7.hE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400 Thomas Abthorpe wrote: >I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on >FreeBSD. I would encourage you to check out the following resources Stable !=3D Usable --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com My own business always bores me to death; I prefer other people's. Oscar Wilde --Sig_/R..YAgLArt.rStfuEaO7.hE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPM20ACgkQBvaKIJWWCO3toQCeKb7KFCUJvMYTgwmOAQdYbM5+ AlUAnRcuRy1AR2W8cKmT+LJWG+PfFYqJ =Ed/X -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/R..YAgLArt.rStfuEaO7.hE-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:35:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EAD1065672 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Received: from shell.msen.com (msen.com [148.59.86.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0BA8FC28 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:35:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) X-Sent-To: Received: from [10.10.20.97] ([205.171.51.78]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.msen.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA3H8fLI061174 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:08:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@msen.com) Message-ID: <490F3016.1020103@msen.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:08:38 -0500 From: Mark Moellering User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=205.171.51.78; envelope-from= Received-SPF: Pass (sender authenticated); receiver=msen.com; client-ip=205.171.51.78; helo=[10.10.20.97] X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: shell.msen.com; Sender-ip: 205.171.51.78; Sender-helo: [10.10.20.97]; ) Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:35:56 -0000 Thomas Abthorpe wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On November 2, 2008 08:01:38 pm FBSD1 wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Perrin >> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:40 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? >> >> >> Ok now that you have all let off steam about the off topic of desktop >> verses ms/windows lets return the meaning of the original poster. >> >> >> I spent this weekend playing with kde4 as root and had problems with it >> not working. >> Could not change the displayed time to from 20.00.00 to 8:00PM >> When I changed the resolution from the default to 800x600 and the refresh >> rate to 60.0 many of the applications did not auto fit to the new setting >> and the change would not carry over between logons. >> Some times the desktop just froze up and had to do alt-ctrl-backspace to >> force return to command line. >> When I changed the font type and size to use, the change would not carry >> over between logons. >> Could not find a way to remove items from the menu. >> Some icons would not display at all. >> Koffice was missing. >> Not all the application use the new window format which has the option to >> return to menu that launched it. Only has x out to return to desktop >> screen. >> >> Bottom line is imho kde4 is not stable, is not ready for general use. Needs >> more development and testing. Should only be contained in the development >> ports category. >> >> >> > > I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I > would encourage you to check out the following resources > > http://freebsd.kde.org > http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4 > > Certainly, if my word is not good enough, the nice folks over at PC-BSD, > http://www.pcbsd.org, sure have bundled up a nice package based on FreeBSD 7 > and KDE4. > > > Thomas > > I have used KDE-4 While some of the graphics are much better looking, I thought it lacked some functionality. These are minor issues but several of the old (KDE 3.5.X) control panel options were not available (or I couldn't find them) and figuring out where to set certain options was not that intuitive for me. I never found a central location for settings, it seemed that each control (menu, taskbar, etc) had it's own 'right click' sort of settings page. The small thing that truly bugged me is that I normally only display programs for the current desktop in the taskbar, but there was a small control that you could select that would display all windows on all desktops (I forget its official name). I used it alot to make sure I didn't forget something running, etc. I couldn't find this taskbar control in KDE 4. The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. There is no (at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 and no FreeBSD port of Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the linux port but had lots of problems. Also, to start you need to give an explicit path, something like /usr/local/kde-4/bin/startkde in the .xinitrc file. (at least I could never get anything else to work) I ultimately changed back to the 3.5.9(?) version from packages. I am using an intel quad core running amd64 FreeBSD 7.0 Release Hope this helps. Mark Moellering From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:44:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6FA106567B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 659868FC3A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 31215 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2008 17:44:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=N6FGd+YDgYe7Ryh88AiWvo0SkEbhDHFhE0xl3QUD3iHK/+/ux0EQo9OrMWYHEXms0G+hgKYbynZpLlCwOUu/a23uP9ib55VrvrtnE21V1jSvhUTfNojFwA8L7V3D3oU/Sz0aOiuoXiSipnIkA4cLVbcTn47sUiBqBs96+hmxZDQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 9eYMLGcVM1maHbOUChskTEXkDf.1AmPJJg1YzQdTGv3oaiExmMu7wsjRMmiKW9L1zlzUZvTACddtDJoeVjrRztkh6l4bbFfRqrDO2CPhTPsM9vGrREe.QzI6wF46XgoimoYK69P2J_mSfIh6X25GElEYZQ-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 09:44:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 09:44:54 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Mark Moellering In-Reply-To: <490F3016.1020103@msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <826235.30834.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:44:56 -0000 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Mark Moellering wrote: > From: Mark Moellering > Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 12:08 PM > > The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. > There is no (at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 > and no FreeBSD port of Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the > linux port but had lots of problems. > Also, to start you need to give an explicit path, something > like /usr/local/kde-4/bin/startkde in the .xinitrc file. > (at least I could never get anything else to work) > I ultimately changed back to the 3.5.9(?) version from > packages. I am using an intel quad core running amd64 > FreeBSD 7.0 Release The standard ports for ktorrent and k3b work just fine. They use the KDE3 libraries, but there's nothing to stop them from running great under a KDE4 desktop. I use them both regularly with KDE4 as my desktop. In order for them to use the KDE4 libraries, the authors of those applications will have to come up with new versions for KDE4. That has nothing to do with FreeBSD. I also use a lot of GTK based applications as well, and these run on a KDE desktop as well. The X UI library used by an application does not matter to the desktop environment/wm application except that you may get a little more integration given certain combinations in terms of them pulling theming data from the same sources, etc. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 17:56:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4729C1065670 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCC08FC29 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:56:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45D69AFCF21; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:56:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:56:41 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> <490F3016.1020103@msen.com> In-Reply-To: <490F3016.1020103@msen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811031856.42156.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Mark Moellering Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:56:44 -0000 On Monday 03 November 2008 18:08:38 Mark Moellering wrote: > The other problems I had dealt with thrid-party programs. There is no > (at least as of a few months ago) K3B for KDE-4 and no FreeBSD port of > Ktorrent for KDE-4. I tried the linux port but had lots of problems. > I ultimately changed back to the 3.5.9(?) version from packages. I am > using an intel quad core running amd64 FreeBSD 7.0 Release We had a similar experience and for this reason patched the kernel, using instructions found here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2008-March/000217.html Then have set up a jail with an updated kde-4 installed there. Every once in a while, we copy over the home dirs and run the jailed version, so that configs on the host system are untouched, but we still get a full experience test. > Also, to start you need to give an explicit path, something like > /usr/local/kde-4/bin/startkde in the .xinitrc file. (at least I could > never get anything else to work) This is easily worked around by adding /usr/local/kde4/bin and /usr/local/kde4/sbin to your PATH in .profile, /etc/profile or /etc/login.conf. Lastly another annoyance is having to click the app menu for it to move to the next category, but I'm sure that's configurable somewhere (I hope). -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 18:33:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F98A106567A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:33:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3K=fed1ab1b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024C58FC1A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:33:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3K=fed1ab1b@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63901648BB for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:17:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2E2D05B1 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:17:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:17:13 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081103181713.1c251963@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20081103062153.GA12804@icarus.home.lan> References: <513F7DF0-642B-4D58-B533-A49FEBD2E2AF@sentex.net> <20081103062153.GA12804@icarus.home.lan> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: MySQL not restarted after portupgrade X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:33:41 -0000 On Sun, 2 Nov 2008 22:21:53 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:52:53AM -0500, Andrew Berry wrote: > > For some reason, after running portupgrade > > databases/mysql51-server, MySQL is brought down, but not restarted. > > It's not a huge issue, as I just have to remember to run the rc.d > > script after upgrading, but I was wondering if anyone else had seen > > this? portupgrade seems to work fine with other daemons such as > > Apache and Courier IMAP. > > This is a per-port thing, unless portupgrade provides some form of > rc.subr script restarting itself. There is no "standard" for this. You can setup BEFOREDEINSTALL and/or AFTERINSTALL in pkgtools.conf to run rc.d scripts per port. Portmanager has a similar feature. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 18:51:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC971065675 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:51:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spap13@googlemail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C1C8FC2F for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:51:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spap13@googlemail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c21so1855407ika.3 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:51:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=TyBLKuxzkq/X4ntGbAxbHve8qOcIudS1ky76TMivacU=; b=fsB9BJXVBPsTEhxz+cG0NG+ImkOShupjdomMSkCCUzgqDlYgrWEWq2WVLbSzNBAluS kENkm4qnCqodB7hDs03b/iKmXo1gy+2lXPVKtX6Bf6Pvde6mYmdob/pMM+QADCkBuIN1 wyd7d8RwRGsAjOx/ujCbwCrVjoRs36pXXuxQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=srwhVsIBsxctOPtNGGUzMn1GQCC0wxl3eTX76pioTYUAGkbtjVzD72tZx1PxeHT8j8 HjV1Ez7UCS+iWa5ntFYRvdLwE+3frvdohSSs4d3Tmx13z2dM/7uWqj8R2b7ZwusrR2VB T8PV9shWUilf8Dwg1MRAwWCRjzdMkONh4pjBw= Received: by 10.86.68.2 with SMTP id q2mr415054fga.3.1225736794506; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.86.99.6 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:26:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:26:34 +0100 From: "Spiros Papadopoulos" To: "freebsd mailing list" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Java and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:51:58 -0000 Hi, It is now more than eight months that i am not able to use FreeBSD. FreeBSD version 6.1 was the last. Back then trying to work with Eclipse and java on FreeBSD was quite tricky. Can anyone please tell me what the current status is? For example can i use ports to install everything and start working with Eclipse straight away...? Or is Linux a better option? What versions of FreeBSD and Eclipse would you recommend? Please feel free to provide with as much information as you want. Thanks in advance Spiros P. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 18:53:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2701065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s11.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s11.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.211]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495828FC08 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:53:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.247]) by bay0-omc3-s11.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:53:55 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:53:55 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:53:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: jerrymc@msu.edu Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:53:52 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 18:53:55.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[8575BA20:01C93DE5] Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:53:55 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: >On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:01:21PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: > >>Dear Support: >> I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let >>me >>know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? >> >>And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. >> >>Thanks in advance. >> > >All of this is well documented on the FreeBSD website (www.freebsd.org) > >For informatino on the mailing lists, go to: > http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html >or > http://lists.FreeBSD.org/mailman/listinfo and look around. > >The version setup in FreeBSD can be a little confusing for newcomers >because the terms stable and current are used in very specific ways - >formally defined rather than in the more loose general conversation >way we often use them. > >Current is the bleeding edge of development work - nothing is guaranteed >and stable is the development branch that is actually intended to >eventually >become the next new version -- rather than current being the official >present version out or stable being the most reliable version as one might >guess from just the words before studying the documentation.. >Check this part of the handbook: > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html > >If you are a FreeBSD beginning, what you want is a RELEASE version. >The latest at the moment are 6.3 and 7.0 In the present form of >the web page, the latest RELEASEs plus the next two are listed right >there on the first page. > >Other information on upcoming releases can be found on the Release >Engineering page: > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html > >By the way, "releng" stands for Release Engineering here and when >you track a version for security updates you track a RELENG version. > >So, if you installed FreeBSD 7.1, then in your csupfile you would put: > > *default tag=RELENG_7_1 > >That would get you the security updates for FreeBSD 7.1 > >If you wanted to jump up to stable you would put: > > *default tag=RELENG_7 > >and that would be the stable version of the FreeBSD 7 branch. >But, the funny thing about it is that the STABLE line is not mean >that it is actually stable. They try to assure that it compiles >and builds. And, usually it is pretty good. But it hasn't gone >through all the official builds and been run against all the known >problem sets as has a RELEASE when it is 'released'. > >So, for now, just install a RELEASE - probably 7.1 if you can wait >or 7.0 right now and track the security fixes by csup-ing to RELENG_7_1 >or RELENG_7_0 > >Have fun, > >////jerry If using a release, can he not use freebsd-update to keep current on fixes rather than rebuilding everything? On a slow system, the more binary the better. -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 18:57:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02C01065676 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.204]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5FE8FC26 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:57:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.247]) by bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:57:15 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:57:15 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:57:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:57:10 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2008 18:57:15.0265 (UTC) FILETIME=[FCAB2710:01C93DE5] Cc: alasdair@iprimus.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: updating from 6.3 to 7, mirror problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:57:15 -0000 (-K JohnNy wrote: >>Ok I see. How do I update from 6.3 STABLE to 7.0 STABLE ? I imagine there >>is a tool for that? Short of down loading the iso files and doing it from >>discs. > >Don't know if there is a tool for this, but the usual way is to make a >RELENG-7 supfile, csup the 7-STABLE sources and build them. More on >this subject in the handbook. >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html > >>Thanks for your patience!! >> >>Regards, >> >>Alasdair This is correct. The tool freebsd-update may be used to update between releases (and release candidates) with binaries, but not between the development trees. -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 19:12:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1971065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE898FC1C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C7A16C0014; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:12:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA3JCIBG002064; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:12:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:12:17 +0100 From: Polytropon To: "Steven Susbauer" Message-Id: <20081103201217.4c78a822.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:12:21 -0000 On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:53:52 -0600, "Steven Susbauer" wrote: > If using a release, can he not use freebsd-update to keep current on > fixes rather than rebuilding everything? On a slow system, the more > binary the better. Of course he can, I mean, that's what freebsd-update is intended for. At least, it's very useful if you want to follow the RELEASE path and only install the various security patches, so you don't have 7-STABLE, but, for example, 7.1-RELEASE-p5. This is a situation you will usually find on servers. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 19:28:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76B0106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 918A98FC57 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:28:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 68496 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Nov 2008 19:28:10 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=zGPxgFhUU2hakDtxAhDeuwH0gzQML/ooFpI4YPHYyonlbY2MFocmukCqKZ60chS6WPmQE+TPX5ZI3vUbls8Bx+yLaK5Pf6/ugV2ukYGuWLWq+MaA+6aHldWP/2H4wbCTQL2pcZWD7xRUQYusoG7CbmDaERgngf8y6pNDFn9QQpQ=; X-YMail-OSG: M8_1EHMVM1kJmXeZvpr1ANnVbSUTr7YVJSqdCM655SiBDHK45jEcgMvrPqOmmk75.Fu.SG8EHmhXFv5UPaVWa4ducqWcclILby_gXgYn3qQ9v77Xi8e68cAG9jk3L7RHUxk6pA_t8ROCMo1zxZfXaQmVMg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:28:10 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:28:10 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: freebsd mailing list , Spiros Papadopoulos In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <410306.67693.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Java and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:28:12 -0000 --- On Mon, 11/3/08, Spiros Papadopoulos wrote: > From: Spiros Papadopoulos > Subject: Java and FreeBSD > To: "freebsd mailing list" > Date: Monday, November 3, 2008, 1:26 PM > Hi, > > It is now more than eight months that i am not able to use > FreeBSD. FreeBSD > > version 6.1 was the last. > > Back then trying to work with Eclipse and java on FreeBSD > was quite tricky. > > Can anyone please tell me what the current status is? For > example can i use > > ports to install everything and start working with Eclipse > straight away...? > Or > > is Linux a better option? > > What versions of FreeBSD and Eclipse would you recommend? > Please feel free > > to provide with as much information as you want. My advice is to install the following ports in the following order: java/jdk16 java/eclipse-devel eclipse-devel worked much better for me than did java/eclipse. I also had trouble without getting jdk16 installed first. It's been a while now, so I'm not exactly sure what all, but I think if you install those ports in that order, Eclipse will work for you. You may also want to make a symlink from /usr/local/eclipse to /usr/local/eclipse-devel - this allows the Eclipse plugin ports to install properly. Without it, they will not. I've got several (Perl, Ruby, and a couple of others) installed from ports against eclipse-devel and they work fine once that symlink is in place. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 19:29:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95ACB1065672 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB0C8FC1D for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:29:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optiksecurite.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from [31.33.7.200] ([69.70.93.206]) by VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-4.01 (built Aug 3 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0K9R0050IVGFKRM0@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:29:03 -0500 (EST) Message-id: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:28:50 -0500 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Images-only webserver, lighttpd vs NginX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:29:38 -0000 Hi everyone, I posted last week about my webserver hitting the kernel's max process allowed (error : "collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing PMAP_SHPGPERPROC"). As a part of the solution, I decided to build a jail with a light webserver dedicated to images requests, the biggest part of the requests the server have to process. Most of the websites hosted on the server have approximately 200 small images with a size between 1k and 32k each. I'm currently hesitating between NginX and lighttpd, which both seems to offer similar benchmarks for this job. The questions : Is someone doing something similar to this with one of the two ? Which one do you suggest and why ? I've read about a memory leak in lighttpd, is anyone is having issues with this under FreeBSD ? Any ideas regarding our situation is appreciated, Thanks ! Francis Dube R & D Optik Securite www.optiksecurite.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 19:41:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8F91065676 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4D68FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA3JcULc031308; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:38:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA3JcURG031307; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:38:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:38:30 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Steven Susbauer Message-ID: <20081103193830.GB31025@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: jerrymc@msu.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question: the stable edition of Freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:41:54 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 12:53:52PM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > Jerry McAllister wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:01:21PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: > > > >>Dear Support: > >> I'm a newcomer and want to install FreeBSD for study. Could you pls let > >>me > >>know which the stable edition of FreeBSD now? > >> > >>And let me know how to subscribe the Q&A list that I prefer. > >> > >>Thanks in advance. > >> > > > >All of this is well documented on the FreeBSD website (www.freebsd.org) > > > >For informatino on the mailing lists, go to: > > http://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html > >or > > http://lists.FreeBSD.org/mailman/listinfo and look around. > > > >The version setup in FreeBSD can be a little confusing for newcomers > >because the terms stable and current are used in very specific ways - > >formally defined rather than in the more loose general conversation > >way we often use them. > > > >Current is the bleeding edge of development work - nothing is guaranteed > >and stable is the development branch that is actually intended to > >eventually > >become the next new version -- rather than current being the official > >present version out or stable being the most reliable version as one might > >guess from just the words before studying the documentation.. > >Check this part of the handbook: > > > >http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html > > > >If you are a FreeBSD beginning, what you want is a RELEASE version. > >The latest at the moment are 6.3 and 7.0 In the present form of > >the web page, the latest RELEASEs plus the next two are listed right > >there on the first page. > > > >Other information on upcoming releases can be found on the Release > >Engineering page: > > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html > > > >By the way, "releng" stands for Release Engineering here and when > >you track a version for security updates you track a RELENG version. > > > >So, if you installed FreeBSD 7.1, then in your csupfile you would put: > > > > *default tag=RELENG_7_1 > > > >That would get you the security updates for FreeBSD 7.1 > > > >If you wanted to jump up to stable you would put: > > > > *default tag=RELENG_7 > > > >and that would be the stable version of the FreeBSD 7 branch. > >But, the funny thing about it is that the STABLE line is not mean > >that it is actually stable. They try to assure that it compiles > >and builds. And, usually it is pretty good. But it hasn't gone > >through all the official builds and been run against all the known > >problem sets as has a RELEASE when it is 'released'. > > > >So, for now, just install a RELEASE - probably 7.1 if you can wait > >or 7.0 right now and track the security fixes by csup-ing to RELENG_7_1 > >or RELENG_7_0 > > > >Have fun, > > > >////jerry > If using a release, can he not use freebsd-update to keep current on > fixes rather than rebuilding everything? On a slow system, the more > binary the better. As far as I know. But, somehow I feel cleaner doing the whole thing. I haven't found the builds to take all that long. This system is not blindingly fast but, I suppose there are others that are much slower. ////jerry > > -Steve > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 19:47:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D039106567E for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF238FC17 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:47:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA3Jllw1036178 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:47:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:47:22 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081103194718.GA35402@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: Bizarre:: blank screen [on KVM] refuses to come back... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:47:28 -0000 A couple of things may be related to this behavior. When I have left my keyboard for more than a few hours, FreeBSD with X11 running KDE3 remains blan=7Fck/blank. No amount of moving my mouse of tapping keys will bring back the display. (I'm writing=20 this ssh'd in my via Ubuntu [KDE?].) I noticed--via top--that the system was loaded at above 2.00=20 while otherwise "idle"; I've killed off a bunch of processes but cannot get the load below 1.00. I'm running 7.0, on a Dell-8200, 1G RAM. =20 So: any suggestions how to get my screen back? Has anybody seen this before? Why the heavy load:: any ideas? And, is there any way I can turn off screen blanking *completely*? I almost always turn off the display anyway if I'm gone for > 15-20 minutes. thanks for any clues. i hate to keep rebooting. ... gary --=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 20:00:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61544106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75668FC19 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:00:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA3K01rq074167; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:00:09 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mA3K01rq074167 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1225742410; bh=cKqRtfRyZ7larQ 7sGOwL0ueB96YMR64Hi/g0ESaZXJ4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<490F583C.6040806@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Mon,=2 003=20Nov=202008=2019:59:56=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=3DE9?=3D=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Imag es-only=20webserver,=20lighttpd=20vs=20NginX|References:=20<490F50F 2.5050706@optiksecurite.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<490F50F2.5050706@optik securite.com>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipar t/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"applicatio n/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enigFECEC8705C4 D1F281796E763"; b=czTuaspvWAf44PlYdMy+MKXHQModfnwx9xPTmOQiSLaioDj0/ BfzMVvhHsLSZPRDDnzBTkR+H59PL9cDyZ+0LwT7tZr9Pa7N98mVQoQXW0WzAbUPgsyr QsqqxdBSbjXfRCTJ9SSut0d2h55g+ZXcBmSuHVRCbi0rwL4RyxnbbHg= Message-ID: <490F583C.6040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:59:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= References: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> In-Reply-To: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigFECEC8705C4D1F281796E763" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:00:10 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8559/Mon Nov 3 16:41:26 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Images-only webserver, lighttpd vs NginX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:00:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFECEC8705C4D1F281796E763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Francis Dub=E9 wrote: > As a part of the solution, I decided to build a jail with a light=20 > webserver dedicated to images requests, the biggest part of the request= s=20 > the server have to process. Most of the websites hosted on the server=20 > have approximately 200 small images with a size between 1k and 32k each= =2E=20 > I'm currently hesitating between NginX and lighttpd, which both seems t= o=20 > offer similar benchmarks for this job. The questions : >=20 > Is someone doing something similar to this with one of the two ? I've had very good results with nginx for doing this sort of thing. > Which one do you suggest and why ? I originally chose nginx because it did what I wanted and it didn't confl= ict with Apache (ie. by installinga binary called 'httpd') on the=20 same machine. However I wasn't aware of lighttpd at that point. By=20 the time I did find out about lighttpd, there was no compelling reason=20 to change from nginx. I think you'll find either is adequate to your needs. Unless you're trying to squeeze the absolute last drop of performance out of your=20 hardware, consider other things than raw speed. Do you find the=20 configuration files easy to understand and deal with? Can you strip=20 down the server to the absolute minimum necessary to serve your needs,=20 and if so which of the two is smaller? Which server name do you find=20 easier to type? > I've read about a memory leak in lighttpd, is anyone is having issues=20 > with this under FreeBSD ? Hmmmm... That would disqualify it from serious contention straight=20 away. But http://www.lighttpd.net/security/lighttpd_sa_2008_07.txt shows the memleak bug fixed in the latest version 1.4.20, which is in ports. Haven't had any stability problems ever with nginx. > Any ideas regarding our situation is appreciated, I think either of these packages will probably serve you well. If you really can't choose between them, then toss a coin. =20 Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigFECEC8705C4D1F281796E763 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkPWEEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSsACfaVOOlAy2ZmEji15fGzaCmyl2 Mc0AnA8De923uWefuIWIdqpUyp6i75do =bA9/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFECEC8705C4D1F281796E763-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 20:27:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD439106567C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA768FC24 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA3KRR2T012118; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:27:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA3KROjJ012115; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:27:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:27:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081103212713.M12114@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: copying 'holey' files ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:27:36 -0000 > > I have a disk img for qemu that is 4G, but disk usage is only 650M ... due to > how the image is created, it will grow to 4G, but only uses as much as it needs > ... but, if I run a simple 'cp' on the file, it goes from: tar have options for that > > image: debian.img > file format: raw > virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) > disk size: 652M > > to: > > image: dtc.img > file format: raw > virtual size: 4.0G (4294967296 bytes) > disk size: 4.0G > > Is there a way of moving things around such that it *maintains* the holes, > instead of fills them in? > > Thx > > > - -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkPKWEACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNJIwCeOTgfxMEf/g/7bnFehXlDZAva > dCwAoJL8sNsCD+h3PnJAAzebAQFsHhfa > =fcAm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 20:48:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E14B1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296F48FC16 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:48:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-146-137-87.bna.bellsouth.net[70.146.137.87]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20081103204853H010012mjfe>; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:48:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.146.137.87] Message-ID: <490F63A0.3000002@datapipe.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:48:32 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= References: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> In-Reply-To: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Images-only webserver, lighttpd vs NginX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:48:54 -0000 Francis Dubé wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I posted last week about my webserver hitting the kernel's max process > allowed (error : "collecting pv entries -- suggest increasing > PMAP_SHPGPERPROC"). > > As a part of the solution, I decided to build a jail with a light > webserver dedicated to images requests, the biggest part of the > requests the server have to process. Most of the websites hosted on > the server have approximately 200 small images with a size between 1k > and 32k each. I'm currently hesitating between NginX and lighttpd, > which both seems to offer similar benchmarks for this job. The > questions : > > Is someone doing something similar to this with one of the two ? > Which one do you suggest and why ? > I've read about a memory leak in lighttpd, is anyone is having issues > with this under FreeBSD ? > > Any ideas regarding our situation is appreciated, > > Thanks ! > > > Francis Dube > R & D > Optik Securite > www.optiksecurite.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" They are both good static content servers. You can easily max out a GiGe link using either. We use lighttpd more extensively than nginx, however we do use both. Quite frankly, it's truthfully up to you. Performance wise, they are on par with once another. ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 20:55:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26F21065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [207.115.11.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA458FC0A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:55:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-146-137-87.bna.bellsouth.net[70.146.137.87]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20081103205549H010011954e>; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:55:50 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.146.137.87] Message-ID: <490F6541.3010702@datapipe.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:55:29 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Sam Fourman Jr." References: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> <490F63A0.3000002@datapipe.com> <11167f520811031252i3cb5940cw8e395ecbf1320f15@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <11167f520811031252i3cb5940cw8e395ecbf1320f15@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Images-only webserver, lighttpd vs NginX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:55:50 -0000 Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: >> They are both good static content servers. You can easily max out a GiGe >> link using either. We use lighttpd more extensively than nginx, however we >> do use both. Quite frankly, it's truthfully up to you. Performance wise, >> they are on par with once another. >> >> ~Paul >> > at the risk of being slightly OT > > is there a recent toutorial that anyone knows of for lighthttpd on > FreeBSD 7, I have used Google and > I can't turn up anything recent > > Sam Fourman Jr. > Fourman Networks > What kind of tutorial are you looking for? Their documentation is quite extensive. ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 21:04:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94BD1065941 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (fed1rmmtao107.cox.net [68.230.241.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9847F8FC12 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:04:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo02.cox.net ([70.169.32.72]) by fed1rmmtao107.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081103210422.KIYR29505.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net>; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:04:22 -0500 Received: from asus386 ([98.176.32.63]) by fed1rmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id al4P1a00A1MjGMu04l4PHv; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:04:23 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gTI-GwdHAAAA:8 a=nGG82nTgpPnLh0BaetUA:9 a=hjof6sr9s3XNnJrzCVAA:7 a=MI6qVjKptQlko2ehLfeqWLNYfqcA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 13:04:18 -0800 From: Robert To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com Message-ID: <20081103130418.790b7ee7@asus386> In-Reply-To: <4904C0F6.1020306@gmail.com> References: <20081020103839.369884cf@asus64> <20081025105151.0e689dc6@asus64> <4904C0F6.1020306@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disappearing mouse pointer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:04:23 -0000 On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:11:50 -0400 Bryant Eadon wrote: > Robert wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:38:39 -0700 > > Robert wrote: > > > >> Greetings FreeBSD > >> > >> When running XFCE4 I will lose the mouse pointer at times. This > >> will only happen when I have the driver set to "nv" in xorg.conf. > >> The mouse will still work as I can see where it is when I pass > >> over icons and watch them highlight. If I can stop on an icon, I > >> can click and it works. > >> > >> If I drop out of the XFCE4 using ctl-alt-backspace, the mouse > >> pointer appears and all is well. If I restart the XFCE4, there is > >> no pointer. If I change the driver to "vesa" and restart then I > >> have a pointer again. The only way I have found to regain the > >> pointer using "nv" is to reboot. > >> > >> All ports are up to date and I am running amd64 RELENG_7 as of last > >> Saturday. > >> > >> uname -a > >> FreeBSD asus64.shasta204.local 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD > >> 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Sat Oct 18 13:31:00 PDT 2008 > >> root@asus64.shasta204.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > >> > >> If I should have posted to a different list please let me know. I > >> have also attached my xorg.conf. > >> > >> TIA > >> > >> Robert > > > > Five days and no responses, so maybe more information. On this > > computer I have on board GeForce 6100. > > > > vgapci0@pci0:0:5:0: class=0x030000 card=0x81bf1043 > > chip=0x024210de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' > > device = 'GeForce 6100' > > class = display > > subclass = VGA > > > > I have the same exact release and ports running on a different > > computer equipped with a GeForce 6800 XT in an AGP slot without a > > problem. The big difference is that other computer is running > > i386. It is using "nv" driver without any problems. > > > > Can anyone point me in the right direction. Feel free to tell me > > where to go. :-) > > > > Thanks > > Robert > > > > This seems like a very strange problem. Let's try focusing on XFCE > first. > > Are any processes conflicting with drawing something on the screen, > from your description it seems like XFCE is a problem, but do other > window managers do the same thing ? > > If it's not wm specific then I'd try chasing down the developers of > xf86-video-nv . Here is a starting point : > http://www.t2-project.org/packages/xf86-video-nv.html > > Does the driver support any sort of 'debug' mode that you could log > to file ? > > .... > > Taking a walk through xf86-video-nv, it looks like there are a few > bitshift and & operators that use pointer and move things to and > fro. ( in 64-bit land that maybe these moves should be handled > differently ? Or are these magic numbers? ) > > Take a look into the source, nv_cursor.c > > Examining these lines : > #if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN > if ( m & 0x80000000) > *dst = ( b & 0x80000000) ? pNv->curFg : pNv->curBg; > else > *dst = TRANSPARENT_PIXEL; > > This case draws the pixel transparently if it fails the test -- which > seems to coincide with what you're seeing. This is just a wild > guess, it could be used elsewhere though with the same affect. > > > But then again, since this is working at all, then it may point to > 1. the wm > 2. Xorg may have a problem reporting it to the wm > > Hope it helps. Report back if you have any progress. > > > Later, > Bryant I waited to answer so that I could do further testing. I first moved .xinitrc out of the way so I would load the default wm, "twm". It only took a couple of days and I lost the mouse cursor. I had a spare slice on a separate disk, so I installed the i386 version of 7 Beta 2 from CD. I updated it to stable and installed most of my packages, including XFCE4. I made the mistake of copying over all of my config files from the AMD64 version and the problem recurred. I then cleaned all of my packages with pkg_delete *. I cleaned out my home directory and /usr/local. I then reinstalled all of the necessary packages. It took a few says but it happened again. I moved my .xinitrc out of the way and was using "twm" since last Friday. About an hour ago I returned to my computer and the mouse cursor was missing. Evidently, the problem is something to do with my hardware that the "nv" driver does not like. I guess we can close this out as weird hardware problems. For the record, here is what I have: A8N-VM motherboard with 2 Gig of RAM (4x500) CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ (2009.16-MHz 686-class CPU) On board video is GeForce 6100 Wireless mouse and keyboard through a PS2 KVM (happened before the kvm installed) If anyone needs more information I will be happy to provide it but for me, I will just live with it. Thanks Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 21:11:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72E41065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: from ourbrains.org (c-76-116-4-190.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [76.116.4.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24F238FC19 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:11:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan-freebsd-questions@ourbrains.org) Received: (qmail 5288 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2008 20:44:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (192.168.0.4) by 192.168.0.1 with QMQP; 3 Nov 2008 20:44:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:44:42 -0500 From: Dan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081103204442.GA42571@ourbrains.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> <490F583C.6040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <490F583C.6040806@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Re: Images-only webserver, lighttpd vs NginX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:11:32 -0000 Matthew Seaman(m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk)@2008.11.03 19:59:56 +0000: > Francis Dub? wrote: > > >Which one do you suggest and why ? nginx. Lighttpd has remote security holes once in a while. nginx has better security design and is more modular and faster. It happens to also be feature-rich, which is not easy to do in a fast and secure server. Lighttpd had one recent remote hole as of .18. IIRC nginx had none. -- "But oftentimes I'm asked: Why? Why do you care what happens outside of America?" Washington, D.C., June 26, 2008 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 21:13:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8BD1065673 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10698FC25 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sfourman@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so1891291rne.12 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SeDfXQzuK2q6FgkjJt4oNVUxScHd15kk9HfhhIam9M4=; b=ssxifhTQ1A5Nf+bXhWvCRP9CcsFJf4dqbUxO+QFzy01OrHXkK8CCa1rMJc4nb1q2+b fMeoqGZyp5JNV+SFzQr6FRUlphVKogIrTGwHmHJJNDI+4A7ypHY5Ih+gzrfT6bPbgSZY ezF7dhX+8UWwHv/k0AvXAq4c4mHNClFIYf3TA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Zd2+ucOgDAv7RbMREOXnc9o6GutsNFmoknjfdmYyXVbtmTZ6U2u9D63P4gjZH14V8l 7+lVP5xCLjIpYf1akVTj0BdiKjKhQYN3IWV41sPMWVO0E9/yycwlLe6rMxO53Extr8Ut CqEtf1Ai9SwExm9xS8BtyhwqdzJ4NKTYFMYvs= Received: by 10.64.196.9 with SMTP id t9mr641644qbf.66.1225745547159; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.119.8 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:52:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <11167f520811031252i3cb5940cw8e395ecbf1320f15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:52:27 -0600 From: "Sam Fourman Jr." To: "Paul A. Procacci" In-Reply-To: <490F63A0.3000002@datapipe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <490F50F2.5050706@optiksecurite.com> <490F63A0.3000002@datapipe.com> Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Francis_Dub=E9?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Images-only webserver, lighttpd vs NginX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:13:36 -0000 > They are both good static content servers. You can easily max out a GiGe > link using either. We use lighttpd more extensively than nginx, however we > do use both. Quite frankly, it's truthfully up to you. Performance wise, > they are on par with once another. > > ~Paul at the risk of being slightly OT is there a recent toutorial that anyone knows of for lighthttpd on FreeBSD 7, I have used Google and I can't turn up anything recent Sam Fourman Jr. Fourman Networks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 22:34:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898B4106564A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0E08FC18 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7B111A2CE2; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:34:02 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33733-09; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:34:02 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 766C611A2CE1; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:34:00 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:33:57 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, Thorsten Glaser , Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de, general@desktopbsd.net, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org Message-ID: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:41:54 +0000 Cc: Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:34:03 -0000 As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 17 454 hosts FreeBSD 5 526 hosts DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts NetBSD 86 hosts MirBSD 21 hosts OpenBSD 55 hosts DragonFly 26 hosts MidnightBSD 26 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 6 082 Russian Federation 1 836 Germany 1 586 Australia 1 341 Ukraine 997 France 930 Japan 898 United Kingdom 791 Canada 767 Brazil 729 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 22:44:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44ABD1065672 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:44:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederic.perrin@resel.fr) Received: from maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr (maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr [192.44.76.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19208FC1B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:44:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederic.perrin@resel.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847F819D3E; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:44:37 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at resel.fr Received: from maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mercure.adm.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LymWz2V7FaJd; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:44:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr (chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr [172.22.209.241]) (Authenticated sender: fperrin) by maisel-gw.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A46619D48; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:44:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 558EDB826; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:44:28 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric_Perrin?= To: Fred Condo Organization: =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9seau?= des =?utf-8?B?w4lsw6h2ZXM=?= References: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> <6F644950-947E-4D7E-85D7-E992E2A80A8D@quinn.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:44:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6F644950-947E-4D7E-85D7-E992E2A80A8D@quinn.com> (Fred Condo's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:27:37 -0700") Message-ID: <86abcga0qc.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Behaviour of su(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:44:39 -0000 Le Vendredi 31 =C3=A0 20:27, Fred Condo a =C3=A9crit : > Use this syntax (both equivalent): > su - root > su -l root > > You do have to specify the user with -l. Perhaps the man page could > clarify that. I read the first line that says "The su utility requests appropriate user credentials via PAM and switches to that user ID (the default user is the superuser)" as "'su -' and 'su - root' are equivalent". su -l root as the expected behaviour (resetting $LOGNAME to $USER), thanks a lot. > On Oct 31, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Perrin wrote: >> As a side question, is it considered bad practice to set root's shell >> and locales to something else than the default ? --=20 Fred From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 23:08:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A288B106567B for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728D88FC0A for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:08:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1BAAFCF21; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 14:08:24 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:08:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> In-Reply-To: <86mygklilz.fsf@chameau.maisel.enst-bretagne.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811040008.23196.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: =?utf-8?q?Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric_Perrin?= Subject: Re: Behaviour of su(1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:08:25 -0000 On Friday 31 October 2008 19:33:44 Fr=C3=A9d=C3=A9ric Perrin wrote: > As a side question, is it considered bad practice to set root's shell > and locales to something else then the default ? By some (most?) yes. If you decide to change the default shell, to one that= 's=20 not in the base system (i.e., a ksh/zsh/bash port), then it's highly=20 recommended to make a static version that installs into /bin. This will save you a number of headaches, when a library dependency is=20 (unsuccessfully or partially) upgraded or /usr is not accessable. However, when reporting bugs and you only slightly suspect it to be shell=20 related, you should be able to reproduce it on csh for the purpose of=20 reporting and adjust the bugreport if you can not. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 23:13:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26E31065675 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFF38FC14 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:13:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA3NDr5k037658 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:13:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:13:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:13:29 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081103231328.GA3956@thought.org> References: <20081103194718.GA35402@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20081103194718.GA35402@thought.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE,URIBL_BLACK autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Subject: Re: Bizarre:: blank screen [on KVM] refuses to come back... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:13:35 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:47:22AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > A couple of things may be related to this behavior. When I have > left my keyboard for more than a few hours, FreeBSD with X11 > running KDE3 remains blan=7Fck/blank. No amount of moving my > mouse of tapping keys will bring back the display. (I'm writing=20 > this ssh'd in my via Ubuntu [KDE?].) >=20 > I noticed--via top--that the system was loaded at above 2.00=20 > while otherwise "idle"; I've killed off a bunch of processes but > cannot get the load below 1.00. I'm running 7.0, on a > Dell-8200, 1G RAM. =20 >=20 > So: any suggestions how to get my screen back? Has anybody seen > this before? Why the heavy load:: any ideas? And, is there any > way I can turn off screen blanking *completely*? I almost always > turn off the display anyway if I'm gone for > 15-20 minutes. >=20 > thanks for any clues. i hate to keep rebooting. ... >=20 > gary Finally found (possible) solutions on a usenet forums site: xset s off; xset -dpms; Then in /etc/X11.org, comment the DPMS option, e.g.: #Option "DPMS" See if this works. =20 --=20 Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 23:31:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C155106564A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from witt@cylogistics.com) Received: from outbound.sentinare.net (outbound.sentinare.net [207.158.33.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 780718FC0C; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from witt@cylogistics.com) Received: from Donlaptop (78.sub-75-211-232.myvzw.com [75.211.232.78]) by mail.sentinare.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0C768682A; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:12:51 +0000 (GMT) From: "Don Witt" To: "'Marc G. Fournier'" , , , , , "'Thorsten Glaser'" , "'Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez'" , , , , , References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:12:46 -0800 Organization: Cylogistics Message-ID: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack+CGyiOdxOpPe0Q9G0mOZX/8XUfQAASSBQ Content-Language: en-us X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:46:23 +0000 Cc: Subject: RE: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: witt@cylogistics.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:31:43 -0000 This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers accurate? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser; Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de; general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 17 454 hosts FreeBSD 5 526 hosts DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts NetBSD 86 hosts MirBSD 21 hosts OpenBSD 55 hosts DragonFly 26 hosts MidnightBSD 26 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top 10 being: United States 6 082 Russian Federation 1 836 Germany 1 586 Australia 1 341 Ukraine 997 France 930 Japan 898 United Kingdom 791 Canada 767 Brazil 729 Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org Project Objective: "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy and marketing of the *BSD operating systems." PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to enabled, while the rest have to be enabled manually. For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to set things up. If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the report script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are 100% optional ... For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the word, we need more ... If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 _______________________________________________ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 3 23:49:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25321065670 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534478FC0C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:49:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2380155fgb.35 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:49:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6x9EH10vH9mqrWMumWcaO2k9DVqAyfQNqe5dP84JAgE=; b=NB1IvdkkqImi2BJbu80KwmRNuscheHk5/UFBUPlJ8TlPrPpAwOrvXUjQULiUF7PdlQ 2gPYhukme4fP3dJSKXfRQ6u/tBG6hoK/6dgry7kHUwf9t52+c0AlNYqOi3PjY6gs3vxF g5zXohlQhni9pzTymKHKA7/2mTjdU/kIKY9Ss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=LagpAEbX1mTUet1NJmv6Nh8eCXmfZXPuP+Ejkx/OGH3dnDvd9QjC+s+tu3oUBc96r+ g+jbnDQ4P6Rkfl4oBsPQ1ZtimTko2I/EMZoEHBwVxtcp7+2AHFSATjJDkyDS6Am+miFi AHhnfpus1opAUfVYXVnDS7tfHLAYwZAuOUCRA= Received: by 10.187.204.12 with SMTP id g12mr155631faq.107.1225756152723; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:49:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811031549i23b816a8k7cb1ce1ab14c672@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:49:12 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: witt@cylogistics.com In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:53:31 +0000 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org, midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, general@desktopbsd.net, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, "Marc G. Fournier" , Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , Thorsten Glaser , users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:49:15 -0000 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Don Witt wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? As far as I know, these numbers can only be accurate if the administrator enables (installs?) stats reporting. You can add 1 to FreeBSD, because I don't allow stats reporting. :) -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 00:23:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CF0106567A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66508FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:23:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murray@stokely.org) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2694034rvf.43 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.141.16 with SMTP id o16mr426910rvd.209.1225756868422; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:01:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.151.6 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:01:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a7894eb0811031601h3ed4c41flf0bc90679da62ecd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:01:08 -0800 From: "Murray Stokely" To: witt@cylogistics.com In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:31:43 +0000 Cc: "Marc G. Fournier" Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:23:48 -0000 [BCCed others] On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Don Witt wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? These numbers represent the number of people that have installed a program to report usage, and are almost completely uncorrelated with actual usage rates. There needs to be a big warning at the top of these very misleading reports. Also, the massive spam to many different lists is not ideal. Any guess at actual "usage" numbers would be many orders of magnitude larger, and PC-BSD would be a rounding error to other BSDs used in large hosting environments (nothing against the great work being done by PC-BSD, just a fact based on desktop vs server focus). I continue to believe that sending out these numbers which massively undercount all operating systems is very counter-productive, but I've said that before. If you want to get better numbers you could try to survey all web servers on the internet, identify the host operating systems by server responses, tcp/ip timing characteristics, or other heuristics. You could alternatively mine google analytics / webserver log data for large websites if you want client numbers, or countless other data sources that would give you far more data than this self reporting mechanism, and with a much better sample than the very biased mechanism used for these numbers. - Murray From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 00:38:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCCD1065672; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:38:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from bombadil.ibest.com.br (bombadil.ibest.com.br [200.140.126.97]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FAC8FC14; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:38:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp3.brturbo.com.br (smtp3.brte.com.br [200.199.201.175]) by bombadil.ibest.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43891B758D; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:27:39 -0300 (BRT) Received: from lobo (unknown [189.70.97.38]) by smtp3.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7598533E6D; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:17:24 -0200 (BRST) From: Mario Lobo Organization: DigiArt Systems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:23:37 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200810302253.m9UMrXdF014739@saturn.kn-bremen.de> In-Reply-To: <200810302253.m9UMrXdF014739@saturn.kn-bremen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811031923.38317.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, Juergen Lock Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:38:56 -0000 On Thursday 30 October 2008 19:53:33 Juergen Lock wrote: > In article <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> you write: > >Juergen Lock wrote: > >> Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: > >> (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on > >> -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup to > >> this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) > >> > >> 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC > >> (the relevant MFC commits are: > >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 > >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 > >> - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs > >> patches for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter > >> commit can't be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, > >> so flash9 probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP > >> you probably should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP > >> you also need to use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not > >> supported with 4BSD. linprocfs patches for 6: > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch > >> > >> 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC > >> (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html > >> ) > >> > >> 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . > >> > >> 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and > >> dependencies are installed and up to date(!). (the default > >> emulators/linux_base-fc4 should work, if you want to use a later one > >> don't forget to set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and > >> OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT to whichever version you use in make.conf. > >> Note however that on 6, only the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 > >> really works.) > >> > >> 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run > >> nspluginwrapper -i > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so and restart > >> firefox. > >> > >> 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of > >> flash9, > >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e00 > >>0016.html (if you use portaudit you need to `make > >> -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' to be able to install the port), and fc4 > >> seems to be eol'd too, so you probably want to install something like > >> the noscript firefox extension, > >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 > >> and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on > >> sites you trust... > >> > >> And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even > >> on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want > >> to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump > >> (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying > >> specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever > >> signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin > >> needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about > >> it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. > >> If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last > >> few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... > >> > >> You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: > >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so and > >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd > >> /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin (if you see `not > >> found' in there you know something is wrong) - although that doesn't > >> show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. > > > >Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in native > >Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional thing I had > >to do was copy > >/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so into > >~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. > > Yeah I forgot to note that you want to run nspluginwrapper -i > as the user that will run the native browser, not as root, then the > wrapper will go into ~/.mozilla/plugins/... > > > After that > >Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, > >but slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so lucky > >and still has problems with flash9 locking up FF. > > Hmm, lockups I haven't seen yet here. > > HTH, > Juergen > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" It works almost perfectly for me ! Thanks for this, Juergen !. I had to say "almost perfectly" because in myspace, for instance, it takes a while for the "flashies" to start. One thing I noticed is that if I terminate FF, npviewer.bin remains loaded and I have to kill it. Here is what I've got: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz (3199.66-MHz 686-class CPU) real memory = 2146304000 (2046 MB) nvidia0: on vgapci0 FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #3: Wed Oct 29 18:37:07 BRT 2008 (i386) kern.ipc.shmmax: 33554432 -> 1036870912 kern.ipc.shmall: 8192 -> 261072 compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 -> 2.6.16 firefox-3.0.3,1 AND 2.0.0.17 (both work!) linux_base-fc-4_10 nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 The mtv site worked fine all the way !! Great oldie stuff ! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 00:58:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF896106568A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805C78FC14 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:58:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id y22so11096284pof.3 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:58:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=5yOI/iDxarGmdGY2B5NQcluSXtx0iGUmHc4JQCIer1c=; b=Hn/F682u6iZ0m0anzAHhyZvTUorj6UYKr5O6rUaoi5220fsERZR1pGF5lkzCYcMRSb S0dWKcLq4VYAgSMBbi2ObL/fqEMUTPAAHAggnuUXGIz4gvrUKLrejdgNw9BgKJfHMc7O j6rVTkclxBfxufIxW7LjLb58OObciR1M4okVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DQHjspif11qwq/lI/lI9Tir7tSQLa1HF75AeGKA+UA1+L1iJnNWlNjZSQQ4t7HY7JI TMTwBX3KSeMeOSYFn2/Rc6/mkx1QmQn1iPX++L22sqyaazLKxXMCpW1/na8fzblvHw5t aNWPqQrEZWJJX9VwR38HQavuA0HRQQGMhdkaQ= Received: by 10.141.177.10 with SMTP id e10mr463776rvp.72.1225759432816; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.174.19 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 16:43:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:43:52 -0200 From: "J MPZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:58:24 -0000 Hi guys, I have some problem with my FreeBSD server. I have this: ######### ########### ######### # Linux1 # -> ASA -> Internet -> # FreeBSD # -> # Linux2 # ######### ########### ######### If I run a ssh for Linux1 to FreeBSD, my connection freeze when the return of some command is a big text. Example: I make a ssh connection in the from the Linux1 to FreeBSD server, then, I execute some commands, like: 'pwd', 'whoami', 'ls /'... this work perfectly. But, if I run some command that return a big text, like as: 'ls /dev/', or top, my connection freeze. In other terminal, the tcpdump continues showing packets in this connection that was freeze. If I try to access the Linux2, throught FreeBSD (redirect port on natd or redirect port with rinetd), the same thing happens. Is this a problem with FreeBSD? Someone know how I can fix it? Some sysctl? Regards, J. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:18:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFF16106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp1.brturbo.com.br (smtp1.brte.com.br [200.199.201.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612EC8FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:18:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from lobo (unknown [189.70.97.38]) by smtp1.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738BC3402 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:17:32 -0200 (BRST) From: Mario Lobo Organization: DigiArt Systems Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:18:31 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200811032218.32267.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Subject: Qemu network question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:18:02 -0000 Hi: Please use a fixed font to see the diagram bellow: FBSD HOST(7.1-PRERELEASE) +-----------------+ | 10.10.10.1 |=20 LAN -+----- re0 |=20 | |=20 | +-----+ | +---+----+tap0 | | =20 | ++----+tap1 | |=20 | || +-----+ | =20 | || bridge0 | (if_bridge) | || 192.168.100.254 | =20 | |+-----------------+ | | | | QEMU GUEST 1 (linux Fedora core 5) | | +-----------------+ | | | | | +---+---- eth0 |=20 | | 192.168.100.1 |=20 | | |=20 | +-----------------+=20 | QEMU GUEST 2 (windows XP) | +-----------------+ | | | +------+--- realtek |=20 | 192.168.100.2 |=20 | |=20 +-----------------+=20 It's working like a charm !=20 I turned my FBSD desktop into a router/gateway, put pf to nat everything an= d=20 set up an independent smb server on the host. Pings travel on any direction= !.=20 The guests have access to ALL the host's files and vice versa, BOTH guests= =20 have internet access and best of all, I can access the linux guest through = an=20 ssh shell and the windows guest through vncviewer, and, of course, the 2=20 guests see each other ! Imagine how happy I am ! I tried this without turning my desktop into a gateway. The guests had=20 internet access but the host was invisible to them and I got tired of tryin= g=20 to make qemu's -smb option work, so I adapted this "a-bit radical" approach= I=20 saw on a how-to for Sun OS I found on the net. I'm really impressed with qemu performance !. I=B4ve compiled kernels, buil= t=20 RPMs and the reduction in performance from doing these things in a separate= =20 machine is really endurable. My question is: If I don't put re0 into promiscous mode, all of this falls= =20 apart ! The network goes totally down for the host<->guests, but the host=20 retains its internet conectivity. I discovered that by chance! I was trying= =20 to find out what was happening with conectivity so I tried pinging the host= =20 from the linux guest. As soon as I started tcpdump on the host, the pings=20 went through so I found out what I needed from there. Is this normal or is there something wrong with my NIC? setup? Thanks, =2D-=20 Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br =46reeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FRE= E) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:28:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840AB1065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost01.isp.att.net (fmailhost01.isp.att.net [204.127.217.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7014D8FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:28:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-146-137-87.bna.bellsouth.net[70.146.137.87]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc01) with ESMTP id <20081104012823H010012gube>; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:28:24 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [70.146.137.87] Message-ID: <490FA51F.7010901@datapipe.com> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:27:59 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: J MPZ References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:28:25 -0000 J MPZ wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have some problem with my FreeBSD server. I have this: > > ######### ########### ######### > # Linux1 # -> ASA -> Internet -> # FreeBSD # -> # Linux2 # > ######### ########### ######### > > If I run a ssh for Linux1 to FreeBSD, my connection freeze when the return > of some command is a big text. Example: > > I make a ssh connection in the from the Linux1 to FreeBSD server, then, I > execute some commands, like: 'pwd', 'whoami', 'ls /'... this work perfectly. > But, if I run some command that return a big text, like as: 'ls /dev/', or > top, my connection freeze. > > In other terminal, the tcpdump continues showing packets in this connection > that was freeze. > > If I try to access the Linux2, throught FreeBSD (redirect port on natd or > redirect port with rinetd), the same thing happens. > > Is this a problem with FreeBSD? Someone know how I can fix it? Some sysctl? > > Regards, > J. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > The tcpdump that you say continues showing packets......are the packets leaving the freeBSD machine or arriving at the FreeBSD machine. My guess is you meant leaving the FreeBSD destined for your linux machine. If this is the case, then the problem most likely lies with the ASA. If you monitor the ASA's external interface during your testing, do you see packets arriving? If so, do you see packets leaving the internal interface going back to your Linux1 machine? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:30:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3091065679 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF098FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aove1a00R0QkzPwA5pWBXV; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:30:11 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id apWA1a00Y2P6wsM8NpWAEh; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:30:10 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=UoZAhUqrA34_LYlti18A:9 a=9bDlY0DdxSP9XRw2qgUA:7 a=2pSKbg1qpDfqfQoxqPRi_ajmR9UA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2FD2AC9419; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:30:10 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: J MPZ Message-ID: <20081104013010.GA34643@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:30:13 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:43:52PM -0200, J MPZ wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have some problem with my FreeBSD server. I have this: > > ######### ########### ######### > # Linux1 # -> ASA -> Internet -> # FreeBSD # -> # Linux2 # > ######### ########### ######### > > If I run a ssh for Linux1 to FreeBSD, my connection freeze when the return > of some command is a big text. Example: > > I make a ssh connection in the from the Linux1 to FreeBSD server, then, I > execute some commands, like: 'pwd', 'whoami', 'ls /'... this work perfectly. > But, if I run some command that return a big text, like as: 'ls /dev/', or > top, my connection freeze. > > In other terminal, the tcpdump continues showing packets in this connection > that was freeze. Does the FreeBSD machine run a firewall at all, e.g. pf(4)? If so, you probably have some rules which are broken. (I've seen this problem on FreeBSD 6.x when using rules which are not correctly configured to match initiate state). Also, if a firewall is in use and you're blocking all forms of ICMP, that would impact path MTU discovery. Naughty. You might also try disabling TCP extensions on the FreeBSD box to see if it makes any difference. Note that this can impact performance (large TCP window sizes won't be negotiated), but it's worth disabling for a test case. sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0 > If I try to access the Linux2, throught FreeBSD (redirect port on natd or > redirect port with rinetd), the same thing happens. > > Is this a problem with FreeBSD? Someone know how I can fix it? Some sysctl? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:39:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749AF1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (aristotle.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EFF28FC22 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA41dpSu038625 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:39:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:39:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:39:26 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081104013924.GA21577@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: source for dict? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:39:31 -0000 Is the source file/database for dict in ports? I *thought* I had it at one time. tia, gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 02:11:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184231065687 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:11:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D4F8FC2E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl20-3.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.147.3]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mA42AtKA003226 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:11:00 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA42AsJq004393; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:10:54 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA42Aqib004392; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:10:52 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Gary Kline References: <20081104013924.GA21577@thought.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:10:52 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20081104013924.GA21577@thought.org> (Gary Kline's message of "Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:39:26 -0800") Message-ID: <87wsfkqlzn.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mA42AtKA003226 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.853, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.55, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: source for dict? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:11:05 -0000 On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:39:26 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > Is the source file/database for dict in ports? I *thought* I had it > at one time. tia, Maybe. There are a few '*dict*' matches, but without more context it is a bit hard to really know which dict program you are looking for. % pwd /usr/ports % ls -d1 */dict* chinese/dictd-database misc/diction net/dictd net/dictd-database textproc/dict textproc/dictem textproc/dictem-xemacs21-mule textproc/dictfmt textproc/dictionary % From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 02:16:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE9F1065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE8B8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1049426ywe.13 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:16:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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b=RMO9tl883HWgQ2lB05QCmDMylq3ezsF1qZacU8edhnsSsf4N9IXUAKIlOccdisEsCG BxYetMkUwDXCUtitCWzsfysWbyhzmnnpynNcyieIJ6mwvzm/Xgwrzpm7PqReVnAF+BMm N5qstxP5TGCW7dK/31t4baU0AOdnL+Amnf5PI= Received: by 10.141.137.6 with SMTP id p6mr492269rvn.279.1225765823950; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sniper (71-221-173-15.bois.qwest.net [71.221.173.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm496114rvb.8.2008.11.03.18.30.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:30:20 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Falanga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:29:46 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 References: <200810311652.38230.af300wsm@gmail.com> <20081101014600.GA37453@chateau.d.lf> In-Reply-To: <20081101014600.GA37453@chateau.d.lf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811031929.46308.af300wsm@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:30:24 -0000 > > >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive > >debug1: Next authentication method: publickey > >debug1: Trying private key: /home/andy/.ssh/identity > >debug1: Offering public key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa > >debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply > >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive > > It seems OpenSSH (on your dad's box) hasn't recognized your private key, so > how about checking permissions of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and ~/.ssh on his > box. Or how about enabling verbose logging on his box, using 'LogLevel' > parameter in sshd_config. > > HTH > Ashish Shukla Following onto the e-mail I made before, apparently that little permissions difference for the directory, .ssh, was the problem. Changing it to 644 has, apparently, fixed the problem. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 02:36:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF0E106574B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4908FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aqEM1a01L0cQ2SLA5qcUAp; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:36:28 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aqbq1a00S2P6wsM8WqbqRz; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:35:51 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=5m97uzuMlRgA:10 a=pcveRBxBSV8A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=UdH8zR-vUcdkwgTk9kYA:9 a=cbOjla392h2lLD69T5LOqZvO9D0A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 62C32C9419; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:35:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 18:35:50 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Andrew Falanga Message-ID: <20081104023550.GA35893@icarus.home.lan> References: <200810311652.38230.af300wsm@gmail.com> <20081101014600.GA37453@chateau.d.lf> <200811031929.46308.af300wsm@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200811031929.46308.af300wsm@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:36:29 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 07:29:46PM -0700, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > > > > >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive > > >debug1: Next authentication method: publickey > > >debug1: Trying private key: /home/andy/.ssh/identity > > >debug1: Offering public key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa > > >debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply > > >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive > > > > It seems OpenSSH (on your dad's box) hasn't recognized your private key, so > > how about checking permissions of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and ~/.ssh on his > > box. Or how about enabling verbose logging on his box, using 'LogLevel' > > parameter in sshd_config. > > > > HTH > > Ashish Shukla > > > Following onto the e-mail I made before, apparently that little permissions > difference for the directory, .ssh, was the problem. Changing it to 644 has, > apparently, fixed the problem. Which doesn't make sense for two reasons: 1) Directories must have the execute bit set (644 lacks that), 2) ~/.ssh should be 700 for security reasons. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:38:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B948D106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.224]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908738FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the.real.david.allen@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2726593rvf.43 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:38:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=NvNxDRqZNi8710dvYh0VxdMzguCtE7iBDWVk/ATnYuQ=; b=xnB1JkbxOZSEAxsPrAXlYMx9Ab5vgK2mQngbzeP2rIRLeeUBoQxMezJuLeaHFV/rfM GVxikdtKTR2r0FLUIn/CAHrKpji6+HglYkZdmWObc6F0wcT9Kl2HEsvl77HcM8XDuhG1 wJkihEp6OamHx5jyp/6k8m7C1/qmbKUllKBE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=t5cTcI1B0MdhCIsWZAGXESDaosVmPiEg00abUJUFBmadlhgxDK0Mazqjg5ml8e0MJk p8TBdcelPz73Y5sgQPKpcKgpWSZ2cjMETqufJRzi3qSdDVcqWtSTl6mBQqPLXmYsVpNy Yt3Xnv2SQprfvMDZ8njZSEaKfiXo/H3lit5/g= Received: by 10.142.210.4 with SMTP id i4mr446432wfg.240.1225762708142; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.18.2 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:38:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2daa8b4e0811031738q759d34f4q274a676957ad379e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:38:28 -0800 From: "David Allen" To: "FreeBSD Question" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:00:11 +0000 Subject: Using csup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:38:28 -0000 I'd like to move to using csup(1) and there's an error in the manpage that's raising some questions for me: OPTIONS base=base The default base directory is /usr/local/etc/csup. FILES /usr/local/etc/cvsup Default base directory. sup Default collDir subdirectory. base/collDir/collection/checkouts* List files. Assuming that the default 'base' directory is /usr/local/etc/cvsup, would the following three files be sufficient for csup to work? # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/standard-supfile *default tag=RELENG_7_0 *default host=cvsup10.us.FreeBSD.org *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress src-all # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/doc-supfile doc-all # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile ports-all tag=. # usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/refuse [contents of global refusefile] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 03:19:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A551065692 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224E98FC0C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA43K1uO039248; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:19:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:19:37 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-ID: <20081104031937.GA24625@thought.org> References: <20081104013924.GA21577@thought.org> <87wsfkqlzn.fsf@kobe.laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87wsfkqlzn.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: source for dict? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:19:44 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 04:10:52AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:39:26 -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > Is the source file/database for dict in ports? I *thought* I had it > > at one time. tia, > > Maybe. There are a few '*dict*' matches, but without more context it is > a bit hard to really know which dict program you are looking for. > > % pwd > /usr/ports > % ls -d1 */dict* > chinese/dictd-database > misc/diction > net/dictd > net/dictd-database > textproc/dict > textproc/dictem > textproc/dictem-xemacs21-mule > textproc/dictfmt > textproc/dictionary > % > Super, it's it net/dictd-database. I'm trying to reduce as much bandwidth as I can. thanks much! gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 03:28:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878DE106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF5A8FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:28:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32181905E; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:28:02 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:28:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 19:27:49 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: Bruce Cran Message-ID: <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <20080904202402.0c245ed2@tau.draftnet> References: <20080904202402.0c245ed2@tau.draftnet> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Joey Mingrone , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: garmin forerunner 305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:28:04 -0000 On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:24:02 +0100 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:51:33 -0300 > "Joey Mingrone" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Has anyone had any success collecting data from a Garmin Forerunner > > 305? > > > > When I connect the device I see the kernel messages: > > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x091e product > > 0x0003 bus uhub1 > > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm kernel: ugen0: > class 255/255, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2> on uhub1 > > > > The documentation for the port astro/GPSMan seems to indicate it > > supports this model, but I haven't had any luck. > > > > % uname -a > > FreeBSD xxx.xxx 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 #3: Thu Jun 12 > > 18:47:50 ADT 2008 root@xxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386 > > Unfortunately Garmin use their own protocol for communicating between > the GPS and the PC. Under Linux it's supported by the garmin_gps > driver but there's no equivalent for FreeBSD yet. > Sorry, it turns out that's wrong: the gpsbabel developers recommend not using garmin_gps because apparently it often doesn't work. Instead they recommend using gpsbabel's 'garmin' input/output format. It interfaces to the device using libusb - which, fortunately for us runs on FreeBSD! I've just successfully read back GPS data into a GPX file using gpsbabel on FreeBSD 8-CURRENT and the 'usb2' usb stack. I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to make a change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 04:26:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270B41065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:26:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956B48FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wahjava@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1534809tid.3 for ; Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:26:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:subject :organization:references:x-face:x-uptime:x-url:x-openpgp-id :x-openpgp-fingerprint:x-os:x-mailer:x-mail-morse:x-attribution:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:face:mime-version:content-type :sender; 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boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: =?UTF-8?B?4KSG4KS24KWA4KS3IOCktuClgeCkleCljeCksiBBc2hpc2ggU2h1a2xh?= Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:26:41 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Andrew Falanga writes: >> >> >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive >> >debug1: Next authentication method: publickey >> >debug1: Trying private key: /home/andy/.ssh/identity >> >debug1: Offering public key: /home/andy/.ssh/id_rsa >> >debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply >> >debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,keyboard-interactive >> >> It seems OpenSSH (on your dad's box) hasn't recognized your private key, so >> how about checking permissions of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and ~/.ssh on his >> box. Or how about enabling verbose logging on his box, using 'LogLevel' >> parameter in sshd_config. >> >> HTH >> Ashish Shukla > Following onto the e-mail I made before, apparently that little permissions > difference for the directory, .ssh, was the problem. Changing it to 644 has, > apparently, fixed the problem. Cool :) . I learnt this from my first SSH public-key authentication configuration ;) Ashish -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ·-- ·- ···· ·--- ·- ···- ·- ·--·-· --· -- ·- ·· ·-·· ·-·-·- -·-· --- -- % dig +short cname cdac.in @::1 ms.gov.in --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPzuYACgkQHy+EEHYuXnQ3kgCgx0zqQ3rk8EMl5GZ6t04P3Ai1 uuEAn0xDR+4fSKMpqqZhcxhuZHmvA03U =LMyc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 04:50:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF651065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the-ghost@inbox.ru) Received: from mx45.mail.ru (mx45.mail.ru [194.67.23.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7631F8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from the-ghost@inbox.ru) Received: from f54.mail.ru (f54.mail.ru [194.67.57.89]) by mx45.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id B8A82E000D06 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:17:37 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail by f54.mail.ru with local id 1KxAY3-000Kn4-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:17:35 +0300 Received: from [79.111.88.156] by win.mail.ru with HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:17:35 +0300 From: The Ghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: [79.111.88.156] Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:17:35 +0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK Subject: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The Ghost List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:50:07 -0000 Hello, I migrated to freensd-7.0-release and noticed that I can't switch to the virtual consoles by pressing Alt+Fx once I've started X ! I guess the key combination has changed in the nre version of Xorg implemented in FreeBSD 7.0, so I took a look at the online handbook, but I haven't found anything about the new way to switch to the virtual consoles... Could anyone please point me at what do I miss?.. The Ghost From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 05:21:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4711065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274E18FC1C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:21:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.243]) by bay0-omc3-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:21:05 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:21:05 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:21:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: the-ghost@inbox.ru Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:21:02 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2008 05:21:05.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[22B69CD0:01C93E3D] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:21:06 -0000 The Ghost wrote: >Hello, > > >I migrated to freensd-7.0-release and noticed that I can't switch to the >virtual consoles by pressing Alt+Fx once I've started X ! I guess the key >combination has changed in the nre version of Xorg implemented in FreeBSD >7.0, so I took a look at the online handbook, but I haven't found anything >about the new way to switch to the virtual consoles... Could anyone please >point me at what do I miss?.. > > > > The Ghost > Have you tried Ctrl+Alt+Fx? Alt alone has never gone to a virtual console from X for me, on any system. -Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:12:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F4610656A3; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:12:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274BA8FC08; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:12:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A73A11A2CF8; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:12:13 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 71335-10; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:12:11 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E1C6811A2CF7; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:12:09 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:12:06 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: witt@cylogistics.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, 'Thorsten Glaser' , 'Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez' , midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de, general@desktopbsd.net, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org Message-ID: <6C6C117AAA26FCE12662F014@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <02fb01c93e09$b011e3c0$1035ab40$@com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:45:12 +0000 Cc: Subject: RE: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:12:14 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Its a voluntary reporting ... I know with both PC-BSD, reporting is on by default .. with FreeBSD, its a simple 'make install' in ports ... with NetBSD/OpenBSD, I suspect its purely manual, so a bit more work involved ... Both NetBSD / OpenBSD #s have been increasing though, just not as fast as the others ... - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 15:12:46 -0800 Don Witt wrote: > This is very cool. What is up with NetBSD and OpenBSD. Are these numbers > accurate? > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Marc G. Fournier > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:34 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org; > users@lists.dragonflybsd.org; netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org; Thorsten Glaser; > Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez; > midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org; miros-discuss@66h.42h.de; > general@desktopbsd.net; announce@lists.pcbsd.org; public@lists.pcbsd.org > Subject: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In > > > As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ > hosts > reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > PC-BSD 17 454 hosts > FreeBSD 5 526 hosts > DesktopBSD 1 919 hosts > NetBSD 86 hosts > MirBSD 21 hosts > OpenBSD 55 hosts > DragonFly 26 hosts > MidnightBSD 26 hosts > GNU/kFreeBSD 2 hosts > > We currently have hosts being reported in from 135 countries, with the top > 10 > being: > > United States 6 082 > Russian Federation 1 836 > Germany 1 586 > Australia 1 341 > Ukraine 997 > France 930 > Japan 898 > United Kingdom 791 > Canada 767 > Brazil 729 > > Project URL: http://www.bsdstats.org > > Project Objective: > > "The mission of this site is to compile semi-accurate numbers for advocacy > and > marketing of the *BSD operating systems." > > > PC-BSD, to the best of our knowledge, is the only one that defaults to > enabled, > while the rest have to be enabled manually. > > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats to > set > things up. > > If you aren't participating, we very much encourage you to start ... the > report > script is a shell script, so you can scan it to figure out what, exactly, is > > being sent in .. and there is only one level of reporting that is required, > > and that is Operating System + Version ... Device and Ports reporting are > 100% > optional ... > > For those that are participating ... once more, thank you ... and spread the > word, we need more ... > > > If you have any questions, please feel free to email me ... > > -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-advocacy-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPoWYACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNjvACeJvROm9YrnENUroh5EF1BsGKw 0YsAoMIQoRnBnkFwGTcZG2cv/4KlkDmF =blyH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 01:20:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E03A106564A; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE5B8FC12; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A2B11A2D04; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:20:57 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73654-07; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:20:54 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DF87F11A2D03; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 21:20:52 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:20:49 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <05F153A016EF18681BD5E93E@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <490F92DA.3040609@bah.homeip.net> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <490F92DA.3040609@bah.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:45:48 +0000 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org, midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, general@desktopbsd.net, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , Thorsten Glaser , users@crater.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:20:57 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 01:10:02 +0100 Bernt Hansson wrote: > Marc G. Fournier skrev: >> As of November 3rd, 2008, the project has hit a new milestone of 25 000+ >> hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: > > There are errors on your homepage > > 6,072 is a lot less then 500. Pardon? I don't see either # on the home page .. *puzzled look* - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPo3EACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvP3CwCeOE++67wohEqs0ahwWyMtFPpo UgAAn2vgaNlYDqSba42ztrSg8CtSyc8/ =s18z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 02:38:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15F51065670; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79C148FC1C; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E70F11A2D03; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:38:24 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88040-08; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:38:23 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9B34B11A2D00; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:38:22 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:38:19 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Al Plant Message-ID: <402926769294954ABF59EF33@ganymede.hub.org> In-Reply-To: <490FAD05.1050001@hdk5.net> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <490FAD05.1050001@hdk5.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:20:19 +0000 Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, public@lists.pcbsd.org, midnightbsd-users@stargazer.midnightbsd.org, general@desktopbsd.net, netbsd-advocacy@netbsd.org, announce@lists.pcbsd.org, Gonzalo Martinez - Sanjuan Sanchez , Thorsten Glaser , users@lists.dragonflybsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, miros-discuss@66h.42h.de Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:38:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Monday, November 03, 2008 16:01:41 -1000 Al Plant wrote: > > Aloha, > > I have 10 FreeBSD servers and desktops in use here in Hawaii. > > These are not on the list as I only have 4 servers that are up 24/7 and they > are fire walled off with pf. > > The 6 others are on a lan behind a Linux Freesco Firewall. Only 2 on 24/7 the > rest are on an as used boot up basis. > > How can I get them Listed? Using FreeBSD as a reference point, the port, when it installs, allows you to enable two methods of reporting: monthly (out of periodic) and on reboot ... so that covers the 4 that aren't up 24/7 ... Next, the reporting is not based on your IP ... in fact, to try and address security concerns, we do not store any information such as IP or hostname ... when you run the stats the first time, it generates a distinct key that is used for reporting and is stored on your host for future reporting to identify you ... Finally, for those dealing with firewalls, the script was written to make use of a PROXY server for reporting, so that no holes have to be opened up for an individual host to connect to the rver ... - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkPtZsACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNo4wCeJ3diXiZkazxtM1t9wLTb5tc7 uvgAoIxbMIEG2w3V6uvQBMW+dY7i7nn5 =MUtC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 07:12:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C113F1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6D28FC18 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:12:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id mA47CjA6077428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:12:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id mA47CjK7077427; Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02317; Mon, 3 Nov 08 23:06:31 PST Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:11:04 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: joompz@gmail.com Message-Id: <490ff588.HP9wzhb2S+STWuym%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:12:46 -0000 > I have some problem with my FreeBSD server. I have this: > > ######### ########### ######### > # Linux1 # -> ASA -> Internet -> # FreeBSD # -> # Linux2 # > ######### ########### ######### > > If I run a ssh for Linux1 to FreeBSD, my connection freeze when > the return of some command is a big text. Example: > > I make a ssh connection in the from the Linux1 to FreeBSD server, > then, I execute some commands, like: 'pwd', 'whoami', 'ls /'... > this work perfectly. But, if I run some command that return a big > text, like as: 'ls /dev/', or top, my connection freeze. ... > If I try to access the Linux2, throught FreeBSD (redirect port on > natd or redirect port with rinetd), the same thing happens. > > Is this a problem with FreeBSD? Someone know how I can fix it? Some > sysctl? One possible cause of this behavior is an MTU problem. If something in the Linux1 <==> FreeBSD path is dropping packets larger than X (where X is something lower than the endpoints are expecting) you'll see exactly this sort of symptom. While the real solution is to fix whatever is dropping the packets, it may be easier to restrict the MTU. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 07:44:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6087E1065678 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D848FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:44:33 -0800 From: "joeb" To: "Steven Susbauer" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:45:28 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2008 07:44:33.0600 (UTC) FILETIME=[2DA79400:01C93E51] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:44:56 -0000 When I am in xorg/xfce and do Ctrl+Alt+Fx it does in fact open the selected virtual console. But I can not find any way to return to the xorg/xfce desktop running in the virtual console I left from. Alt+Fx does take me to the virtual console where x11/xfce is suppose to be, but puts me in command line mode. The command ps ax shows xorg/xfce is still running. How do I get back to the xorg/xfce desktop running in the virtual console I left from? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Steven Susbauer Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:21 PM To: the-ghost@inbox.ru Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release The Ghost wrote: >Hello, > > >I migrated to freensd-7.0-release and noticed that I can't switch to the >virtual consoles by pressing Alt+Fx once I've started X ! I guess the key >combination has changed in the nre version of Xorg implemented in FreeBSD >7.0, so I took a look at the online handbook, but I haven't found anything >about the new way to switch to the virtual consoles... Could anyone please >point me at what do I miss?.. > > > > The Ghost > Have you tried Ctrl+Alt+Fx? Alt alone has never gone to a virtual console from X for me, on any system. -Steve _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 08:00:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0EC1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:00:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F058FC21 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:00:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2873306rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:00:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=x48meOrf/N4FFDKdtefWEc4J7Zmor/N2/Ky51pHC7WY=; b=yEAsnT/c5nYA7oYa61Nr/aA+m0lHhQL7G3mzeQVL2HI3VYOBewOLpokmVU1ELoD0h8 EHfdnNcBP2RtK4U0e8i3DHCkcdbWM7ioHJWBBP0cUpGV+GZUBCrEYJieyMTxeCBSk/Qs j/n+XQKUaBlo6pVIiouchfZd7KB3YdZVBh6aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=g/11Vx3+FE3XGqu4oHiXRRJATIaDdmeAjQdypjTZZa81pwhlPqPLtCQZTxiUkonbwG PbdSAkpYcw0rS485JzRQH0rf6NwbDdaU7j2WfB7onEkTjIvL8YbQsaoXw5N9QSHeZcU/ 3m/G2AiXndj4vz8UZSj/4puahJQkwiscQAZ74= Received: by 10.141.49.6 with SMTP id b6mr663342rvk.223.1225785624735; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:00:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:00:24 +0200 From: "Roey D" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Default file permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:00:25 -0000 I have a server running Azureus to download torrent files. The Azureus directory is accessible to other computers using samba. Azureus dumps it's completed files with the 644 permissions, making them writable only for the owner. As far as I looked, Azureus cannot be configured to dump it's files with different permissions. Is there any way to apply a "Inherited file permissions" on a specific directory? (i.e all files created on this folder will have a specific permission set, unless specifically changed by some application) I prefer doing this with the classic permission system, rather then using ACLs. Thanks, Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 08:21:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD501065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C098D8FC1F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:21:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id awKJ1a00D0x6nqcA9wMhwm; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:21:41 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id awMg1a0062P6wsM8YwMgXZ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:21:41 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=NvpsxX41gUKO30R-alAA:9 a=HsUnKvjsR2b2_fYekG8A:7 a=aF4dVVzmdH5s6lUvcWmrnFr1N10A:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5DE57C9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:21:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:21:40 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Roey D Message-ID: <20081104082140.GA42248@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default file permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:21:41 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 10:00:24AM +0200, Roey D wrote: > I have a server running Azureus to download torrent files. The Azureus > directory is accessible to other computers using samba. > Azureus dumps it's completed files with the 644 permissions, making > them writable only for the owner. > As far as I looked, Azureus cannot be configured to dump it's files > with different permissions. > Is there any way to apply a "Inherited file permissions" on a specific > directory? (i.e all files created on this folder will have a specific > permission set, unless specifically changed by some application) > I prefer doing this with the classic permission system, rather then using ACLs. See umask(2), which is also a command-line utility. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 08:49:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB925106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F93B8FC1E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2892464rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:49:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=16E94yviLVUvYIt9dAW1QEO8e32VreyYZAUchpEaGPM=; b=W4qRrs6MRLPPZZ03FZoTGxwD6h5xp4NqItUHR/GtFZoMHJfD/eMJCt01xNRoESkw13 JesldEKCZD4jawC9IYxflv4kpYS4UB5lQUzyR71Vt5R+AnLHXUOMswoLEKD/bsrs5qrj 2D/Hg9MCvrn6Y+9swDh6d+nB9rGSwLDdccRgg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=q9Hu9R9yFSqU7OVEpX5cU288fPW5p4SZdn7N71/RxPbM6ArZ9ufEpywpA2PUoQNGHI I0cgH2GUbPJn6lfB3g5D57zM5wEt6XWTCCEKixsGkG47DsUniNA9yxKvDufKD3UmeA7V rZd5wMOuVKrpnwlzUs79OY83vzhrQnMN29Dfk= Received: by 10.141.168.7 with SMTP id v7mr704800rvo.95.1225788550890; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:49:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:49:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:49:10 +0200 From: "Roey D" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <894806.41766.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <894806.41766.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Default file permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:49:11 -0000 2008/11/4 D=E1nielisz L=E1szl=F3 : > Roey, you can do a chron to chmod the downloaded directory. > Did you mean using cron? I'm not very familiar with that, but as far as I know cron jobs can run at specifc times, not on specifc events. Creating a cron job that runs every 5 minutes for chmod sounds a bit like a waste of CPU, and the effect will occur every 5 minutes, not immidietly when a file is downloaded. umask command seems to do the trick. Thanks. Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:34:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E848B1065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.202.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E328FC19 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:34:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.202.236]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA4BDLju002073 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:13:23 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:13:21 +0000 (GMT) From: AN To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8562/Tue Nov 4 02:34:27 2008 on neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: help with MY Book external drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:34:23 -0000 I just purchased a WD MY Book external USB disk, I reformatted in UFS and created a filesystem with sysinstall. I was able to put data on it successfully, however overnite I had a power failure. Now I am unable to mount the drive. The blue light is on, so it seems to be getting power but the computer does not see it when I plug in the USB cable. I can not run fsck because the system says /dev/da0s1d no such file or directory. I tried da0s1, da0s1c, and da0s1d no luck. I also tried to plug the disk into another machine, same thing the disk is not recognized. Is it totally gone? Any help to recover this disk would be really appreciated. TIA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:39:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627B1106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from pih-relay08.plus.net (pih-relay08.plus.net [212.159.14.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BBE8FC0C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay08.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1KxKFW-00056H-OD for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:39:06 +0000 Message-ID: <05524CE8E23A4A0EA6C5E51F612CC9D7@main> From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20081103185727.B57B81065769@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: f79f542be6f996e94fc2a3a715661766 Subject: Backup Winserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:39:09 -0000 Hi All, Is there anyone using Rsync on windows to backup to a Linux or FreeBSD server? Are the Windows Rsync implementations reliable? Or, how are people doing this? [ftp etc?] Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:42:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075E61065677 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:42:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D288FC31 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id azWQ1a00L0cQ2SLA2ziHwd; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:42:17 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aziG1a0042P6wsM8WziGlZ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:42:17 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=e9zZnptHNXMA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=x6cexuSLFzNpFGbvUcIA:9 a=dnFObU_g82MPjoCOHSIAId6zPKAA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9243EC9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:42:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:42:16 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: AN Message-ID: <20081104114216.GA46686@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with MY Book external drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:42:18 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:13:21AM +0000, AN wrote: > I just purchased a WD MY Book external USB disk, I reformatted in UFS and > created a filesystem with sysinstall. I was able to put data on it > successfully, however overnite I had a power failure. Now I am unable to > mount the drive. The blue light is on, so it seems to be getting power > but the computer does not see it when I plug in the USB cable. I can not > run fsck because the system says /dev/da0s1d no such file or directory. > I tried da0s1, da0s1c, and da0s1d no luck. I also tried to plug the disk > into another machine, same thing the disk is not recognized. Is it > totally gone? Any help to recover this disk would be really > appreciated. Possibly, especially if you plug it into another machine and experienced the same problem. When you plug the drive in, does the FreeBSD kernel output anything? If so, what all does it output? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:43:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D874A1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1A48FC0C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2965704rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:43:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mmgsYtXfydsHFa1/VTTDwEeMSPfl/dOAIlI3X2Hj/7I=; b=UCCrnObEaT59WJmhDp21522thxyhAJxy5M/WTqhQlQrq9MZJ5GxxcHbrf7oD4sANXI dY1Kl/uF2E2g97kKtyu86vd+SgPESg50ArNjy/Nwon+jb2Oii7bPhHcH2/sfwS6xTAJA 0MMOC49VaiIzc5qlzYPZyx/8U0hBXV89t13cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=r8u5RdbWeKE5731qC1tcsy/egSeobFHfvwSE2OVNOvmAKd7Wzzq0RV6ZHEXrE0k99o dKck+qa+mddO3Xt7jtCL0aafoWPmgAME6yee3qgoJCPYW8ym6p6+EWiTgfQj3R1vR/y4 u3ToVRcNPDfJvBaQLz5MxDtKTny9HmiGSc1No= Received: by 10.141.113.6 with SMTP id q6mr803551rvm.36.1225799003755; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:43:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:43:23 +0200 From: "Roey D" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <05524CE8E23A4A0EA6C5E51F612CC9D7@main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081103185727.B57B81065769@hub.freebsd.org> <05524CE8E23A4A0EA6C5E51F612CC9D7@main> Subject: Re: Backup Winserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:43:24 -0000 2008/11/4 Graham Bentley : > Hi All, > > Is there anyone using Rsync on windows to backup to a Linux or FreeBSD > server? > > Are the Windows Rsync implementations reliable? > I used to do that, the windows rsync client (runs on the top of cygwin) worked well for me. You can use this package: http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp which provides cygwin rsync plus GUI. The only issue I had is with files with non-latin characters in their names, in my case, Hebrew. Once I downloaded the Cygwin UTF-8 dll, which can be found here: http://www.okisoft.co.jp/esc/utf8-cygwin/ everything seemed to work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:45:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8B71065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722888FC20 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:45:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.247]) by bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:45:15 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:45:15 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 207.46.10.254 by by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:45:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com From: "Steven Susbauer" To: joeb@a1poweruser.com Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:45:12 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2008 11:45:15.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD883760:01C93E72] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:45:15 -0000 joeb wrote: > When I am in xorg/xfce and do Ctrl+Alt+Fx it does in fact open the >selected >virtual console. >But I can not find any way to return to the xorg/xfce desktop running in >the >virtual console I left from. > Alt+Fx does take me to the virtual console where x11/xfce is suppose to >be, >but puts me in command line mode. >The command ps ax shows xorg/xfce is still running. > >How do I get back to the xorg/xfce desktop running in the virtual console I >left from? > You should be able to get back into Xorg with Alt F7 or F8. Does this not work? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:48:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC911065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDC88FC21 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:48:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1238039nfh.33 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:48:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received :x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=WaYXXY3Uz8fnSQExmWNLhbhyrV7T4ARA124K+bh26Tw=; b=jNLm6ZxC5qUHvDyFNj7MMQ0uU7Nm1fq6Amu1iP3TbjvBog7aIOazJzq7iDQLyxeiVX lzsxSoNSC2wQf9fnrPaliQvrtb0VPx9QMTCv81qylrhEmSHWiFQfjCV9aDs7WLdvsxD7 CrIe2y0+O1F9Wl710hOMeZGlaIXoTRUXx+wzA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=R/KheW1+hfk/ACQzFl0hXsG7KROtWWPD4aaTKEpO4sEAZ5DcXcBKfWCAa4+GTPYsu3 pt04X76Ky36cCB1TVZtjHnYU93SxMLWQBtYCB+Ol53S3B21EThZRfPMicCjw71GH6Cn7 w+jwpllZsCnPHb3ID97Zd1L395NP2FS6cdZTA= Received: by 10.210.12.18 with SMTP id 18mr1549071ebl.42.1225799326079; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org ([85.175.24.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm16867420gve.9.2008.11.04.03.48.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org (yuri@darklight.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA4Bmf0D014261; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:48:41 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA4BmfaJ014260; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:48:41 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.homeunix.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:48:41 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Steven Susbauer Message-ID: <20081104114841.GA1339@darklight.homeunix.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: joeb@a1poweruser.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:48:47 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 05:45:12AM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > joeb wrote: >> When I am in xorg/xfce and do Ctrl+Alt+Fx it does in fact open the >> selected >> virtual console. >> But I can not find any way to return to the xorg/xfce desktop running >> in the >> virtual console I left from. >> Alt+Fx does take me to the virtual console where x11/xfce is suppose >> to be, >> but puts me in command line mode. >> The command ps ax shows xorg/xfce is still running. >> >> How do I get back to the xorg/xfce desktop running in the virtual console I >> left from? >> > You should be able to get back into Xorg with Alt F7 or F8. Does this > not work? > > Steve X usually runs on ttyv8, so it should be Alt+F9. HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:57:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F155A106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E348FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:57:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KxKX4-0005IZ-QQ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:57:14 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KxKX4-0000Pv-Bu; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:57:14 +0300 To: Bruce Cran References: <20080904202402.0c245ed2@tau.draftnet> <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:57:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> (Bruce Cran's message of "Mon\, 3 Nov 2008 19\:27\:49 -0800") Message-ID: <80794437@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: garmin forerunner 305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:57:17 -0000 Bruce Cran writes: > I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping > version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to make a > change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. Can you submit a patch? Thanks! WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 11:58:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F071065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wribjr@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87E48FC24 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wribjr@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so2972658rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:58:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=nwEKTqCmHgs97juYCf6yIkf9fan1BUtUF0z3yDUFVso=; b=LVmww1er1U0kTgJlxOnxFV5/y+L0Js7ftujDWxJAmn35xZh1PrHzuPLkkupkN5MSJe kL6xnBeHSHUkEz32ZfhBi4lleP8JFwDJHAa6CmrhCREBQURGUof3E1SXlBse3xjvvPmL nuEoaoqkJlUGDjaXwNdwFqJG78uSNER3TffrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=T7yXvg55kQwGoQ8b9aSCZtwJyGDR89rKmlXijZ26n9vEezqaAolGIdXXr9Y5KNLNlZ FGKPcZJWmh1jO9xWzOltBhforUqp9gz2w8CAghkEUrndGole0rF4VkM0D/wOIRIZmyVd edprJCBSOjMYDuDCtPkmTxaczGQuW9i79hgGU= Received: by 10.141.23.7 with SMTP id a7mr796948rvj.5.1225798063721; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.52.20 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 03:27:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <740646d0811040327v6a289819t2ef01527fb83b130@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:27:43 -0200 From: "Wilson Ribeiro" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Wireless Nic rtl8187se X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:58:45 -0000 Hi people, i recently bought a MSI Wind U100x and couldnt configure my wireless nic because it was not identified, how can i identify my wireless nic? thanks, Wilson Ribeiro Consultor de Tecnologia da Informa=E7=E3o e-mail: wribjr@gmail.com phone: 55 21 34117748 mobile: 55 21 82424280 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 12:06:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19B71065677 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.202.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86138FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:06:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andy@neu.net) Received: from neu.net (neu.net [199.237.202.236]) by neu.net (8.13.6.20060614/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA4C63Mi022326 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:06:05 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:06:03 +0000 (GMT) From: AN In-Reply-To: <20081104114216.GA46686@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: References: <20081104114216.GA46686@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 1.10 (BSF 962 2008-03-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8563/Tue Nov 4 11:08:19 2008 on neu.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: help with MY Book external drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:06:07 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:13:21AM +0000, AN wrote: >> I just purchased a WD MY Book external USB disk, I reformatted in UFS and >> created a filesystem with sysinstall. I was able to put data on it >> successfully, however overnite I had a power failure. Now I am unable to >> mount the drive. The blue light is on, so it seems to be getting power >> but the computer does not see it when I plug in the USB cable. I can not >> run fsck because the system says /dev/da0s1d no such file or directory. >> I tried da0s1, da0s1c, and da0s1d no luck. I also tried to plug the disk >> into another machine, same thing the disk is not recognized. Is it >> totally gone? Any help to recover this disk would be really >> appreciated. > > Possibly, especially if you plug it into another machine and experienced > the same problem. When you plug the drive in, does the FreeBSD kernel > output anything? If so, what all does it output? > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > Hi Jeremy: No messages from the kernel, nothing when I plug it in. It is not making any 'clicking' sounds that you usually get when a drive dies. I just don't get it. Maybe a power spike crushed it, but if so why is the light on? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 12:19:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3E3C1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F998FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id azxH1a00L1HpZEsA70K38v; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:19:03 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b0K21a0042P6wsM8a0K2L9; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:19:03 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=e9zZnptHNXMA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=QErLn-Gxmu59K1dZfhcA:9 a=auxm_ohA0dfMVBe4IY8A:7 a=xzkVJe-jkRizPwBSKR8j7uCfQzMA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 799B2C9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:19:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 04:19:02 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: AN Message-ID: <20081104121902.GA47280@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081104114216.GA46686@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: help with MY Book external drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:19:03 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:06:03PM +0000, AN wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:13:21AM +0000, AN wrote: >>> I just purchased a WD MY Book external USB disk, I reformatted in UFS and >>> created a filesystem with sysinstall. I was able to put data on it >>> successfully, however overnite I had a power failure. Now I am unable to >>> mount the drive. The blue light is on, so it seems to be getting power >>> but the computer does not see it when I plug in the USB cable. I can not >>> run fsck because the system says /dev/da0s1d no such file or directory. >>> I tried da0s1, da0s1c, and da0s1d no luck. I also tried to plug the disk >>> into another machine, same thing the disk is not recognized. Is it >>> totally gone? Any help to recover this disk would be really >>> appreciated. >> >> Possibly, especially if you plug it into another machine and experienced >> the same problem. When you plug the drive in, does the FreeBSD kernel >> output anything? If so, what all does it output? >> >> -- >> | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | >> | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | >> | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | >> | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | >> > > Hi Jeremy: > > No messages from the kernel, nothing when I plug it in. Then chances are the ATA-to-USB or SATA-to-USB controller that is internal to the hard disk enclosure is dead. > It is not making any 'clicking' sounds that you usually get when a > drive dies. "Clicking" is in no way shape or form "usual" for a drive failure; it's just one of the hundred ways a drive can fail. Most drives I've seen in the past 5 years fail silently. > I just don't get it. Maybe a power spike crushed it, but if so why > is the light on? This is really something you should be asking Western Digital. :-) What makes you think the power LED is at all related to the hard disk being functional? The power LED could be directly wired to the AC power supply, in which case it just indicates the PSU works, and tells you nothing about the status of the drive, or the controller that interfaces with the drive. Your options as I see them: 1) Call Western Digital and get a replacement MyBook; you will very likely get a new MyBook, and your old hard disk/data will be gone permanently, 2) Purchase a replacement MyBook. Open it up, open yours up, and swap the hard disks (e.g. your hard disk inside of the new MyBook enclosure). This will void your warranty on *both* MyBook products, but will help determine if just the ATA/SATA-to-USB controller is shot, or if the hard disk is shot, 3) Open your MyBook up, and remove the hard disk. Attempt to hook the disk directly to your PC via ATA or SATA; if it's an ATA 2.5" disk, you may need to buy an adapter to make it work with standard 40 or 80-pin IDE ribbon cables (make sure you note which is pin 1! Some of those adapters are non-keyed, so you could end up sticking pin 40 where pin 1 is, and destroy the PCB entirely) I hope this situation has introduced you to the world of backups, and why they need to be performed regularly. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 08:08:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86A41065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7587E8FC1F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:08:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 46795 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 08:08:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gsKXX1QhEeUYFtZXuaCO8EZUudvOSZlD/1Nyxl5xk+1XXa73HS1V08dTi49t5gd0b6dHCKTtdBOZp/EQXlIn3dwCynf/iGeAW/LaTLuWl3rCYzgN4hp+mrw/X9xyC9HClXJ5HHxv35za/ZllGjMqPdBaeBvYTFMbRcRpQNTpwgI=; X-YMail-OSG: hIERplwVM1mcBTi5nNqWhSAQppBmeu3HzRGAhAtm5okNWPMFXQumeTnsVsNiyeSi72.p0Y5N1YcKlN0I6zNhFfqdGIhiWjv0.RCSd7Lht7N6XqBzDa_JAcbBnoiSDGlZge6njqQvu6a26l9UfZvcuQu8sw-- Received: from [213.157.180.252] by web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:08:34 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:08:34 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Roey D , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <894806.41766.qm@web30801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:22:53 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Default file permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:08:35 -0000 Roey, you can do a chron to chmod the downloaded directory.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_= _______________________________=0AFrom: Roey D = =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:00= :24 AM=0ASubject: Default file permissions=0A=0AI have a server running Azu= reus to download torrent files. The Azureus=0Adirectory is accessible to ot= her computers using samba.=0AAzureus dumps it's completed files with the 64= 4 permissions, making=0Athem writable only for the owner.=0AAs far as I loo= ked, Azureus cannot be configured to dump it's files=0Awith different permi= ssions.=0AIs there any way to apply a "Inherited file permissions" on a spe= cific=0Adirectory? (i.e all files created on this folder will have a specif= ic=0Apermission set, unless specifically changed by some application)=0AI p= refer doing this with the classic permission system, rather then using ACLs= .=0A=0AThanks,=0ARoey=0A_______________________________________________=0Af= reebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailma= n/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-qu= estions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 09:55:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F011065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9302E8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77739 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 09:55:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=W8wAu68EHG+PSYxNczUE180ozBAp7O55uIAIBW7SUfDDvitXRwnK14DfkGM7keS1IrfWjxgNrOaWL1cMN6S9yhNiISpqqtS3JxvF1yZPrLZm3kYjzmLKWVWfMRWjN+SOtJvVRKcE0ff4wPtkbWyMXy2lUXBQ4cpWXZ2YEfw2NLs=; X-YMail-OSG: SyY.E.IVM1mU50OTgO4W3F_F2lwugcdewFkPLCS0AtkfsJmzucub7q7yEWwKVpJGZg-- Received: from [213.157.180.252] by web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:55:55 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: Roey D , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <997366.77664.qm@web30804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:24:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Default file permissions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:55:56 -0000 Yeah, I meant, cron.=0AMay umask sound better, if you find out the best sol= ution for your issue please let us know :)=0A=0AThank you!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__= ______________________________=0AFrom: Roey D = =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ASent: Tuesday, November 4, 2008 9:49= :10 AM=0ASubject: Re: Default file permissions=0A=0A2008/11/4 D=E1nielisz L= =E1szl=F3 :=0A> Roey, you can do a chron to chm= od the downloaded directory.=0A>=0A=0ADid you mean using cron?=0AI'm not ve= ry familiar with that, but as far as I know cron jobs can=0Arun at specifc = times, not on specifc events.=0ACreating a cron job that runs every 5 minut= es for chmod sounds a bit=0Alike a waste of CPU, and the effect will occur = every 5 minutes, not=0Aimmidietly when a file is downloaded.=0Aumask comman= d seems to do the trick. Thanks.=0A=0ARoey=0A______________________________= _________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lis= ts.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send an= y mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 10:52:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD7C1065677 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:52:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@txnet.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 113E08FC22 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@txnet.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so970644eyi.7 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.227.13 with SMTP id e13mr590801mur.49.1225794671484; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 02:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.103.211.10 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:31:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:31:11 +0200 From: "Alexander Renn" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:24:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Webcam X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:52:20 -0000 Hi guys, Anyone tried to get the Acer Crystal webcam (SuYin) [0xa103:0x064e] working? I build the gspca port but it does not support this webcam. I found that linux UVC driver supports this webcam so I tried to build the UVC driver using the linux-kmod-compat-20080408 and here is what I got: [root@purevil /home/hyperwizard/uvc/trunk]# svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/linux-uvc/linux-uvc/trunk [root@purevil /home/hyperwizard/uvc/trunk]# make -f Makefile.kld Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/home/hyperwizard/uvc/trunk cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -DUSB_DEBUG -DGSPCA_ENABLE_DEBUG -DGSPCA_ENABLE_COMPRESSION -DCONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MODULE=1 -DVID_HARDWARE_GSPCA=0xFF -DGSPCA_VERSION=\"01.00.20\" -D__KERNEL__ -DDRIVER_NAME=uvc -DDEV_NAME=\"video\" -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -std=c99 -nostdinc -ISunplus -ISunplus-jpeg -ISonix -IConexant -IVimicro -Idecoder -I/usr/local/share/linux-kmod-compat/linux_compat -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq -finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common -mno-align-long-strings -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -mno-mmx -mno-3dnow -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -ffreestanding -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign -fformat-extensions -c uvc_ctrl.c uvc_ctrl.c:19:27: error: linux/uaccess.h: No such file or directory In file included from uvc_ctrl.c:27: uvcvideo.h:473: warning: declaration does not declare anything uvc_ctrl.c: In function 'uvc_entity_match_guid': uvc_ctrl.c:629: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c: In function 'uvc_ctrl_get': uvc_ctrl.c:928: error: 'struct v4l2_ext_control' has no member named 'value' uvc_ctrl.c:934: error: 'struct v4l2_ext_control' has no member named 'value' uvc_ctrl.c:935: error: 'struct v4l2_ext_control' has no member named 'value' uvc_ctrl.c: In function 'uvc_ctrl_set': uvc_ctrl.c:949: error: 'struct v4l2_ext_control' has no member named 'value' uvc_ctrl.c: In function 'uvc_xu_ctrl_query': uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1031: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c: In function 'uvc_ctrl_init_device': uvc_ctrl.c:1326: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1327: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'extension' uvc_ctrl.c:1329: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'processing' uvc_ctrl.c:1330: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'processing' uvc_ctrl.c:1332: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'camera' uvc_ctrl.c:1333: error: 'struct uvc_entity' has no member named 'camera' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/home/hyperwizard/uvc/trunk. I'd be very grateful for any help. Best regards, Zander. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 12:59:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9308F106567A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B38FC27 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mA4CxQFv082958; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:59:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:59:25 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20081103185727.B57B81065769@hub.freebsd.org> <05524CE8E23A4A0EA6C5E51F612CC9D7@main> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811040759.25518.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Roey D Subject: Re: Backup Winserver X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:59:28 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008 06:43:23 am Roey D wrote: > 2008/11/4 Graham Bentley : > > Is there anyone using Rsync on windows to backup to a Linux or > > FreeBSD server? > > > > Are the Windows Rsync implementations reliable? > > I used to do that, the windows rsync client (runs on the top of > cygwin) worked well for me. > You can use this package: > http://www.aboutmyip.com/AboutMyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp > which provides cygwin rsync plus GUI. > The only issue I had is with files with non-latin characters in their > names, in my case, Hebrew. > Once I downloaded the Cygwin UTF-8 dll, which can be found here: > http://www.okisoft.co.jp/esc/utf8-cygwin/ > everything seemed to work. I've done this as well without problem. Look for cwrsync if you don't want to bother installing Cygwin yourself. It comes with the rsync tools and ssh all ready to go. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:10:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4081065680 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D168FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id y22so11639560pof.3 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:10:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=N007yy4A2BFoAM433SefUjhvJuat00tW5orbp1ET3p4=; b=lJHz/3kTgSOCgpfarWTm41YCmd1KjCVio+O+qV4oF2vEcM+JuRkjd/dpJD7Vpu+fCc lnbGR7TRUWBg6PFTP3UOpiOmC3FyLpl/hkzVyWXk01byp+v+bziJzQUNniU9F3M7SjUU 4BvWomk7WDA4VTyNoIFEURxK0cBll7YcvBTro= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nCrpWLY9BI7swn25Q4r6ZTyBrXC02rHn+2HZyoNBhnKLJUHX7GUHNLjdfGkcwTqfah xytvW3d7zBZgNfALdcrqKX3d5/6/us9p/iulPehqmaIZTGkG72pCSakNnlnuFKSeDCbM 716a7deRbLoIuCxfu9ZkHeCO8iFtIfKVYopdU= Received: by 10.141.206.13 with SMTP id i13mr833837rvq.211.1225804225991; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.174.19 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:10:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:10:25 -0200 From: "J MPZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <490FA51F.7010901@datapipe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <490FA51F.7010901@datapipe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:10:26 -0000 Hi Paul, When my connections freeze, I open the tcpdump in other terminal. If I type something, type "Enter", on the terminal frozen, the tcpdump show packets, like that: 11:18:45.526256 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 651, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 193:241(48) ack 0 win 15136 11:18:45.625839 IP (tos 0x10, ttl 64, id 23438, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) 201.57.5.2.2264 > 189.21.230.195.20787: ., cksum 0x4d03 (correct), 1664:1664(0) ack 241 win 65535 11:18:45.707825 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 652, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 241:289(48) ack 0 win 15136 11:18:45.807839 IP (tos 0x10, ttl 64, id 23493, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) 201.57.5.2.2264 > 189.21.230.195.20787: ., cksum 0x4b4b (correct), 1664:1664(0) ack 289 win 65535 11:18:45.867181 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 653, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 289:337(48) ack 0 win 15136 11:18:45.966840 IP (tos 0x10, ttl 64, id 23529, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) 201.57.5.2.2264 > 189.21.230.195.20787: ., cksum 0x49b5 (correct), 1664:1664(0) ack 337 win 65535 When I executed 'ls' on the terminal frozen, returns this on tcpdump: 11:19:35.738788 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 654, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 337:385(48) ack 0 win 15136 11:19:35.788428 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 655, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 385:433(48) ack 0 win 15136 11:19:35.788483 IP (tos 0x10, ttl 64, id 34519, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) 201.57.5.2.2264 > 189.21.230.195.20787: ., cksum 0xc3d4 (correct), 1664:1664(0) ack 433 win 65535 11:19:36.229773 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 656, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 433:481(48) ack 0 win 15136 11:19:36.328854 IP (tos 0x10, ttl 64, id 34621, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: TCP (6), length: 52) 201.57.5.2.2264 > 189.21.230.195.20787: ., cksum 0xbf5c (correct), 1664:1664(0) ack 481 win 65535 I'm using: tcpdump -nvvv -i ste0 host REMOTE_IP 2008/11/3, Paul A. Procacci : > > J MPZ wrote: > >> Hi guys, >> >> I have some problem with my FreeBSD server. I have this: >> >> ######### ########### ######### >> # Linux1 # -> ASA -> Internet -> # FreeBSD # -> # Linux2 # >> ######### ########### ######### >> >> If I run a ssh for Linux1 to FreeBSD, my connection freeze when the return >> of some command is a big text. Example: >> >> I make a ssh connection in the from the Linux1 to FreeBSD server, then, I >> execute some commands, like: 'pwd', 'whoami', 'ls /'... this work >> perfectly. >> But, if I run some command that return a big text, like as: 'ls /dev/', or >> top, my connection freeze. >> >> In other terminal, the tcpdump continues showing packets in this >> connection >> that was freeze. >> >> If I try to access the Linux2, throught FreeBSD (redirect port on natd or >> redirect port with rinetd), the same thing happens. >> >> Is this a problem with FreeBSD? Someone know how I can fix it? Some >> sysctl? >> >> Regards, >> J. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > The tcpdump that you say continues showing packets......are the packets > leaving the freeBSD machine or arriving at the FreeBSD machine. > My guess is you meant leaving the FreeBSD destined for your linux machine. > If this is the case, then the problem most likely lies with the ASA. > If you monitor the ASA's external interface during your testing, do you see > packets arriving? If so, do you see packets leaving the internal interface > going back to your Linux1 machine? > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:11:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47861065678 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3BC98FC28 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:11:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id y22so11640179pof.3 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:11:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wBjDFzxoiZz2YodQslAO69d8lLc74g2a6sq0H1sFTjU=; b=XQa9oo9XAogy2rC6y8Y7RaSKM5t4LL1ccq+bSXqVw+Ce2obIuU3f+XqUdIsBMJfCsT 3HMmQzSg7x0JcFxR97r0Z/VAjiV+XuYNP2pXykNelpf/hl151ShdiSLB5EfOVWAePeG6 QrbpyMJeA+D5Sb0w3hWo9dXqxA7Skj696QB6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=q/hxqdV3Ivg54sbNBkxYh/4vBKD5wYTLcVs4fNy1spUOpfK9zCRN2BSiRnxG3uv8gC OkZlz+d/ByF6/7GVCd4PP0qIwpTQjZOCjLGtuX1ZeSdLtka1EXAV1Met+3EhNQzsQIOb xZ4jh5bWuCaZsKyHGFb+Wxo6gq0qdPZDdNDJg= Received: by 10.141.204.16 with SMTP id g16mr826434rvq.275.1225804275204; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.174.19 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:11:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:11:15 -0200 From: "J MPZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081104013010.GA34643@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081104013010.GA34643@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:11:15 -0000 Hi Jeremy, I tried without none rules on ipfw FreeBSD (just "allow ip from any to any") and error continues occurring. How I can disable the TCP extensions? I tried to set this value on this sysctl (sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0) but not work. 2008/11/3, Jeremy Chadwick : > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 10:43:52PM -0200, J MPZ wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I have some problem with my FreeBSD server. I have this: > > > > ######### ########### ######### > > # Linux1 # -> ASA -> Internet -> # FreeBSD # -> # Linux2 # > > ######### ########### ######### > > > > If I run a ssh for Linux1 to FreeBSD, my connection freeze when the > return > > of some command is a big text. Example: > > > > I make a ssh connection in the from the Linux1 to FreeBSD server, then, I > > execute some commands, like: 'pwd', 'whoami', 'ls /'... this work > perfectly. > > But, if I run some command that return a big text, like as: 'ls /dev/', > or > > top, my connection freeze. > > > > In other terminal, the tcpdump continues showing packets in this > connection > > that was freeze. > > Does the FreeBSD machine run a firewall at all, e.g. pf(4)? > > If so, you probably have some rules which are broken. (I've seen this > problem on FreeBSD 6.x when using rules which are not correctly > configured to match initiate state). Also, if a firewall is in use and > you're blocking all forms of ICMP, that would impact path MTU discovery. > Naughty. > > You might also try disabling TCP extensions on the FreeBSD box to see if > it makes any difference. Note that this can impact performance (large > TCP window sizes won't be negotiated), but it's worth disabling for a > test case. > > sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0 > > > If I try to access the Linux2, throught FreeBSD (redirect port on natd or > > redirect port with rinetd), the same thing happens. > > > > Is this a problem with FreeBSD? Someone know how I can fix it? Some > sysctl? > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:16:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BD7106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81488FC14 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b19V1a0040cQ2SLA41GR9X; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:16:25 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b1GP1a00A2P6wsM8W1GPp5; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:16:24 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=BIM4ywW0yac_WYPgdm0A:9 a=BBraJEwkVFyAYPKF-pqOZr-uq0UA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 71869C9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:16:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:16:23 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: J MPZ Message-ID: <20081104131623.GA48594@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081104013010.GA34643@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:16:25 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:11:15AM -0200, J MPZ wrote: > Hi Jeremy, > > I tried without none rules on ipfw FreeBSD (just "allow ip from any to any") > and error continues occurring. Then I have no idea. > How I can disable the TCP extensions? > > I tried to set this value on this sysctl (sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0) but > not work. Setting the sysctl to 0 disables TCP extesnsions. But by "not work" do you mean "it didn't solve the problem", or "setting the sysctl failed"? I think you mean "it didn't solve the problem", in which case, it's not the source of the problem. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:18:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0933106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEAE8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:18:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id y22so11645836pof.3 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:18:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=i1gO7As6S9cMEG/ot1LWFkOeqxnlGII2EoaJ7IvTJyc=; b=w83c8eWcscaDCcU+3nK0jfSzpnB6pAgnxfAnwL9TNNCnfYceKVgRVvidHk9QZ6oi0x 7LwL4o1CDMd3geILQw0q1Nnv66eCafOhEAmctIuZgUA1SZNuyE4QL+p3sZitxygvwJ3u YhaSbLWUegpLmwKEpMvMd7fe9aqhfNt2a3iaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nMQK3R4Xk2oj8ef6PJPRBLKJrsvy/MWRow13pXW4FbTsdcBRBDvegqhbSMyn4XfTlA 889aTLGDJN2UnJAA+ulaAxvGv4KQfdLtjSzm2qsknc1qPKkn0VSZPBQKMv6LHkU2b/Ut avC0RDbEQ6qvDzkN3jadGe4VGsIXYBGT4e/Ek= Received: by 10.141.132.1 with SMTP id j1mr858206rvn.64.1225804705244; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.174.19 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:18:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:18:25 -0200 From: "J MPZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081104131623.GA48594@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081104013010.GA34643@icarus.home.lan> <20081104131623.GA48594@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:18:25 -0000 Jeremy, 2008/11/4, Jeremy Chadwick : > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 11:11:15AM -0200, J MPZ wrote: > > Hi Jeremy, > > > > I tried without none rules on ipfw FreeBSD (just "allow ip from any to > any") > > and error continues occurring. > > Then I have no idea. > > > How I can disable the TCP extensions? > > > > I tried to set this value on this sysctl (sysctl net.inet.tcp.rfc1323=0) > but > > not work. > > Setting the sysctl to 0 disables TCP extesnsions. > > But by "not work" do you mean "it didn't solve the problem", or "setting > the > sysctl failed"? I think you mean "it didn't solve the problem", in > which case, it's not the source of the problem. It didn't solve the problem. :-/ -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:31:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD6F1065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:31:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3162D8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-000001a000000220-18-49104ea04ba6 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:31:12 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:28:05 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: garmin forerunner 305 Thread-Index: Ack+LVYWx1fA6uvbQ2u3sNs+7UaSuQAUtAgg References: <20080904202402.0c245ed2@tau.draftnet> <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Bruce Cran" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: garmin forerunner 305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:31:02 -0000 On Behalf Of Bruce Cran > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:24:02 +0100 > Bruce Cran wrote: >=20 >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:51:33 -0300 >> "Joey Mingrone" wrote: >>=20 >> > Has anyone had any success collecting data from a Garmin Forerunner >> > 305? >> >=20 >> > When I connect the device I see the kernel messages: >> > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x091e product >> > 0x0003 bus uhub1 >> > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm kernel: ugen0: > > class 255/255, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2> on uhub1 >> >=20 >> > The documentation for the port astro/GPSMan seems to indicate it >> > supports this model, but I haven't had any luck. >> >=20 >> > % uname -a >> > FreeBSD xxx.xxx 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 #3: Thu Jun 12 >> > 18:47:50 ADT 2008 root@xxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386 >>=20 >> Unfortunately Garmin use their own protocol for communicating between >> the GPS and the PC. Under Linux it's supported by the garmin_gps >> driver but there's no equivalent for FreeBSD yet. >>=20 >=20 > Sorry, it turns out that's wrong: the gpsbabel developers recommend not > using garmin_gps because apparently it often doesn't work. Instead > they recommend using gpsbabel's 'garmin' input/output format. It > interfaces to the device using libusb - which, fortunately for us runs > on FreeBSD! I've just successfully read back GPS data into a GPX file > using gpsbabel on FreeBSD 8-CURRENT and the 'usb2' usb stack.=20 >=20 > I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping > version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to make a > change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. The best way to help fix these problems are: A) Submit a patch for the changes you made. B) Contact the maintainers and provide them with all of the details, what you found, what didn't work, what you modified and the final results. If you have traces or data captures, they may want to see them. They can't fix problems they don't understand. If they don't have access to that hardware, or something similar, they might even ask you to do some experiments for them to extend their knowledge. All of that will help them improve the quality of future releases. Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:44:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFB91065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87618FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:44:16 -0800 From: "joeb" To: "Yuri Pankov" , "Steven Susbauer" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:45:12 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20081104114841.GA1339@darklight.homeunix.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2008 13:44:17.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E6E73A0:01C93E83] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:44:41 -0000 I logon from F2 as root and then startx. I believe F9 only works if you use the xorg logon session control. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Yuri Pankov Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:49 PM To: Steven Susbauer Cc: joeb@a1poweruser.com; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 05:45:12AM -0600, Steven Susbauer wrote: > joeb wrote: >> When I am in xorg/xfce and do Ctrl+Alt+Fx it does in fact open the >> selected >> virtual console. >> But I can not find any way to return to the xorg/xfce desktop running >> in the >> virtual console I left from. >> Alt+Fx does take me to the virtual console where x11/xfce is suppose >> to be, >> but puts me in command line mode. >> The command ps ax shows xorg/xfce is still running. >> >> How do I get back to the xorg/xfce desktop running in the virtual console I >> left from? >> > You should be able to get back into Xorg with Alt F7 or F8. Does this > not work? > > Steve X usually runs on ttyv8, so it should be Alt+F9. HTH, Yuri _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:51:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0F51065753 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B93158FC14 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:51:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl20-3.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.147.3]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mA4DpA7m012721 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:51:17 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA4Dp9nc092962; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:51:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA4Dp6bg092961; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:51:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: AN References: Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:51:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: (AN's message of "Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:13:21 +0000 (GMT)") Message-ID: <87r65rvbud.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mA4DpA7m012721 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.853, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.55, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with MY Book external drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:51:22 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:13:21 +0000 (GMT), AN wrote: > I just purchased a WD MY Book external USB disk, I reformatted in UFS > and created a filesystem with sysinstall. I was able to put data on > it successfully, however overnite I had a power failure. Now I am > unable to mount the drive. The blue light is on, so it seems to be > getting power but the computer does not see it when I plug in the USB > cable. I can not run fsck because the system says /dev/da0s1d no such > file or directory. I tried da0s1, da0s1c, and da0s1d no luck. I also > tried to plug the disk into another machine, same thing the disk is > not recognized. Is it totally gone? Any help to recover this disk > would be really appreciated. Do you see _anything_ in `/var/log/messages' when you attach the disk to your FreeBSD system? When I attach a local MyBook I have with a USB cable, `/var/log/messages' shows: kernel: umass0: on uhub6 root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x1058 product 0x1102 bus uhub6 kernel: umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED) kernel: uhid0: on uhub6 kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers kernel: da0: 476940MB (976773168 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 60801C) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:52:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D4A1065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex34live@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507EF8FC1D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex34live@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d27so1691958tid.3 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:52:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole :thread-index; bh=dmxTEgx5LAjD0+plFOT5ae3FHf2ZTOo0qw1NWH2WibA=; b=kNPKesiv5s1x/o62tqfLqhHe7JLYArwGSIpzdmAmVfjW7vvF/2mFFZz+3mLt5tTrmu 5I4MfOZzjrh+YcUDB4kn8O5a7jrlc3DdZAXKoAzr0hnshxBNkKdK7NP/2Jzk4KGLqaO0 2vIApuRf4oANYcx9CuScfYtlKuuVAQC8n1aDo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :x-mimeole:thread-index; b=RG6+sQSImUKu0WP5vYmtpgMTWWrexFNoxgOysb4XpQQrsfMyZ8ZeXWxy5uBxBH7n7v KKOXA/6nlO3DjWmeOvXNCgdJnoTwDhmpvrrwWZDM5yC7kyYSUQy8zhUQNUH1BgfXiNWL 4iwuL/VUyGc0dXpvB+cwAA/6ONTaxKGxq7u6Y= Received: by 10.110.41.17 with SMTP id o17mr1430836tio.27.1225806745257; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from inb ([221.220.248.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y5sm1053962tia.15.2008.11.04.05.52.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:52:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Alex Zhang" To: "Questions" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:52:20 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Ack+hI6qjKj6BqnnQ4KP+A2JewfGSA== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: how much memory can be support in FreeBSD system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:52:26 -0000 Hi buddy. I'm a new comer and want to configure a Virtual server base on UNIX. The safe, steady and easy for maintenance is needed. Approximately 8GB memory will be mounted. Can anyone tell me how much memory can be supported in FreeBSD? Thanks. BR Alex From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:53:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E5A1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C158D8FC22 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.174.103]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:52:51 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:53:47 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2008 13:52:51.0842 (UTC) FILETIME=[A13BB620:01C93E84] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: xfce decktop time display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:53:14 -0000 Using Xfce4 and the time is displayed in military time 2200. Want to change this to regular AM/PM displayed time. 10pm Been through the manual and all the menus and can not find knob to change the time setting. Thanks for any help you can give. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 13:57:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC91106568D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD918FC2C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:57:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b1nZ1a01E0EPchoA71xh2d; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:57:41 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b1xg1a00D2P6wsM8M1xg6D; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:57:40 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xxItaQ_nTDsA:10 a=cYCDB_SSkBgA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=QlI0C7bW_xFoicBh44YA:9 a=WpBsuXQhQeQigkVBmONf-xI_p2MA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E5AFC9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:57:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 05:57:40 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Alex Zhang Message-ID: <20081104135740.GA49361@icarus.home.lan> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Questions Subject: Re: how much memory can be support in FreeBSD system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:57:41 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 09:52:20PM +0800, Alex Zhang wrote: > I'm a new comer and want to configure a Virtual server base on UNIX. The > safe, steady and easy for maintenance is needed. > > Approximately 8GB memory will be mounted. Can anyone tell me how much memory > can be supported in FreeBSD? On 64-bit FreeBSD (what's called "amd64", but is not specific to AMD CPUs; don't let the name mislead you), you should be able to use up to 1TB of memory. On 32-bit FreeBSD (what's called i386), you can use up to 4GB (but once you surpass ~3GB, you'll only see ~3.25GB usable; this is not a FreeBSD problem, it's an x86 design thing). On 32-bit FreeBSD, you can use what's called PAE mode to increase that 4GB limit to 64GB, but there are repercussions to using PAE (read the Wikipedia article). There are also numerous drivers on FreeBSD which do not work in PAE mode. If at all possible, make sure your processor works in 64-bit mode and go with amd64. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:02:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104831065680 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89948FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3027664rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:02:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=ZBho0e2O5pdFn3kOb0aUVjkeAKKNJwCFSxtDEzkOOpE=; b=VKc6tNmoMcTq8TrbnMEBY05WPvdpn8Lhb0CCjVBORzCEqdwNlE7JD/H4MkWBQgZf/D eXX5CVRXmXCRsm/BkeYUomG9/p83OT9p40AKiXBoTistbai4esJAYh/3yWoBar9BvZo+ Rdmfy8Sw81iNC4XF6rt1zK6EMPZX/G64szttU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nTMi8shj84zU7Ro1okAXfL6U5+cKHLTC/H3PT9wKT9E52fN/+ymn/RrAQaZPVL6G1U wYRhzGSzXLI8Zfz15kg/xeorOWlwptNUgxzhy1zI+blk1VDvtuArF3Ih2teo3rCmxlZH YxisABgOo0P/rQ87Lnj+m1+pe0oBY2HGxaKkg= Received: by 10.140.201.15 with SMTP id y15mr887663rvf.33.1225807345624; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:02:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:02:25 +0200 From: "Roey Dror" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: GDM login without using a password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:02:26 -0000 I've searched around the internet for a way to allow a user to login into GDM without using a password. I know that GDM has an automatic login feature, but that's not what I'm looking. I really do not wish to create a user with an empty password, in order not to compromise the entire system security. I found a mini-HOWTO which suggests using the pam_filelist module. Unfortunately, I couldn't find this module in the ports system. Is there any other way to allow this user to login without using a password only using GDM? -- Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:12:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3614E1065676; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:12:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0638B8FC18; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3187014wfg.7 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:12:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=KUmDQ3FXeZvb2yhTNqP7yncRFyOiRl4n9ffNlY71y+Y=; b=fVBeLbkYrpNEnzHd+OF2ereednRkbWNuK+AP24yP4ZxkCQbJbWwZ3Wacb/ylK8m87u zZdkyU/lIvuxvfu5c6jS0qylslDJKDWhPNcaWwCeLEIzgXXUQYPLhtDwkSo6qHAww+ep FXDf1KTgto5WDLAI061pTH/FAZp77n5CcqbY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=xtjyxuB/fl8Uv65HcAhVgF5w26jI77yMqRD0fwtEQ2amrhQcqUJTcXA8QSLY20LH+a dBG0kYh6wwJnMWKQLulvFT9+tio9wF1t2ljOx29g8Bxo3QqzN9HJ5We6eV0/Gx22A+e0 utRQgVyyEQQPbjnhAnA1+ADxdmIJBHgHKkzOA= Received: by 10.142.226.3 with SMTP id y3mr812588wfg.56.1225807971575; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.158.11 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:12:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:12:51 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Subject: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:12:52 -0000 Hello, I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well as the amount of 'em is just the same. How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" or "disktop" tool or something alike? Its a mail server. I have pop3, imap, I also have maildrop and sometimes, httpd, working around the busiest mount point. I have also started AUDIT, however all I can get are the top PIDs which issue read/write requests. Not the requests which take longer to perform (the busiest ones), or should I look for some special audit class or event other than open, read and write? Thank you in advance. -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:16:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC911065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:16:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7A268FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 99558 invoked by uid 98); 4 Nov 2008 14:15:20 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. 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(192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2008 14:15:19 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Roey Dror In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:16:32 +0000 Message-Id: <1225808192.3407.16.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GDM login without using a password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:16:38 -0000 On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:02 +0200, Roey Dror wrote: > I've searched around the internet for a way to allow a user to login > into GDM without using a password. > I know that GDM has an automatic login feature, but that's not what I'm looking. > I really do not wish to create a user with an empty password, in order > not to compromise the entire system security. > I found a mini-HOWTO which suggests using the pam_filelist module. > Unfortunately, I couldn't find this module in the ports system. > > Is there any other way to allow this user to login without using a > password only using GDM? > AFAIK the automatic login feature allows you to nominate a user to automatically log in as... it doesn't ask for the password but I think one can be set (so it doesn't need to be empty). Automatic login is a security risk in its self, the cracker is already one step closer. It is all controlled through gdmsetup. Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:22:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3197D1065677 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: from viefep18-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740D98FC29 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:22:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4711@chello.at) Received: from edge05.upc.biz ([192.168.13.212]) by viefep15-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081104142210.CIBI2686.viefep15-int.chello.at@edge05.upc.biz>; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:22:10 +0100 Received: from matrix010.matrix.net ([84.114.137.224]) by edge05.upc.biz with edge id b2N81a05K4qgHo4052N9yk; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:22:10 +0100 X-SourceIP: 84.114.137.224 From: Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:22:05 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: 9K^F42eGrHAbAe?%/Jn(.sAeg9d{Ur6`x<[+LZ46Plx#sTFr]9_>|#(?~v6X,=?utf-8?q?2=7EBeL=23=3A7kxV8=23s=3BUP=0A=09=7C?=>X.=B,VvQ"}!^Zb}AGD:Um.+; P=%U6W Cc: Subject: Re: xfce decktop time display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:22:13 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote: > Using Xfce4 and the time is displayed in military time 2200. > Want to change this to regular AM/PM displayed time. 10pm > Been through the manual and all the menus and can not find knob to change > the time setting. > > Thanks for any help you can give. Maybe the clock.rc file is from an old installation/version. You can remove ande re-add the clock via gui or edit the clock.rc file by hand. Simply set the military option to value false. HTH! $ cat ~/.config/xfce4/panel/clock*.rc mode=1 military=false ampm=true secs=true show_frame=false Cheers, ch -- Christian Hiris <4711@chello.at> | OpenPGP KeyID 0x1A9BE943 OpenPGP-Key at hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net and http://pgp.mit.edu From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:27:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D30A1065687 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E40AB8FC26 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3194090wfg.7 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=BEqw0ysp/3lGvKpUyDL02Ycc/+y8j2YisDWPixXHcsk=; b=DwvMy+7nkBSAdVYdSh77kab1xb5flFSI1M/OYbvOAzRSmNZcUd7FBSmjSpXyQyZoAY yZySZcdL0CPzI5UQMLjc/4mVvkxX6MYy4PiMFwWgTsb789Cfe5HbtNujfo0+wzarUBJ3 W/hd2SMAXnDPdPnTmPrC0C8mwBywo9dTY9bBQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CrX1pXAzO4aa9K3gMGGYJNVj03wIgqN1sJGxTGw31WACQ/Rgc0xMeNEubjxXH3y3Pv usg6+Oz4OO3+FJx5YF3UauvH5y4nNJAjJj5JjHbQqSAm8919WTRcDdt+P//hh5KALQ5I WJXN+9nMMTVATUVecPz5XL7Yt3SzOhT+tNNUU= Received: by 10.143.8.17 with SMTP id l17mr814967wfi.106.1225808856655; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.158.11 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:27:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:27:36 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20081104091801.ff0297b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081104091801.ff0297b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:27:37 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : >> >> I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk >> usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and >> iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around >> 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending >> requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). >> >> fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well >> as the amount of 'em is just the same. >> >> How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" >> or "disktop" tool or something alike? > > top -m io -o total Great, thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you a lot Mr Moran. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:32:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8321B1065678 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556638FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:32:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3041428rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:32:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Vj3wRJGrtqVh4Af3oNqjMQdZe8MVrEa8qlDA5rBFTBQ=; b=Nni06xFA/j42Xp88tRUWNdPwKFO2X9BVVJ8spKj1IESbxkpu/reTtRIjo9OdYWNnIs muzKQnv0m4JZ23qmQ47WsLTjm20FrwjQlSHVS9MRTiF9JlmhQ7mdbw3yOHcJ5NwB5RTE viP/i+UCT2UnLzDReCsnZMAA/9cZbV9rxGRgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=DNmtObg9w39SLoUFe+6JkC4M9GugoWICAfitLLIyglwzbHxvpDQNUG8CehMd2cXkK4 5jIU+trCbI3lXhee7mBta4DA6Lr4NoVQMnYTrg46z806XH/4oQj9iKMLUsF5zzNW7TR+ DF15pFxaeYGBBCIALl2z/crksqYb0adY6HANM= Received: by 10.141.13.13 with SMTP id q13mr908221rvi.11.1225809149932; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:32:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:32:29 +0200 From: "Roey Dror" To: "Craig Butler" In-Reply-To: <1225808192.3407.16.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1225808192.3407.16.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GDM login without using a password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:32:30 -0000 > AFAIK the automatic login feature allows you to nominate a user to > automatically log in as... it doesn't ask for the password but I think > one can be set (so it doesn't need to be empty). As I said, the automatic login feature is not what I'm looking for. I need to set up more than one user that is able to login without a password. The computer is a home computer, so local security is not an issue. -- Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:36:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D438106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:36:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24CEB8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:36:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA4EaofC032930 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:36:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:36:51 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 Thread-Index: Ack+isbTZFgpE30IRdOzwCovsdPuYQ== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:36:53 -0000 Hello all I have a small issue when i switch between my console=92s on a proliant = DL160 G5 machine. It has a time gap from around 1 to 2 seconds and then it will switch to = the next console after pressing ALT - F2 =20 Do I need to set something in my loader.conf or sysctl.conf? =20 I use 7.1-PRERELEASE as of today. I installed 7.1 Beta2 and it has this from the start. =20 =20 Regards, Johan Hendriks =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:37:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35B591065677 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:37:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065358FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 43924EBC09; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:18:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:18:01 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Eduardo Meyer" Message-Id: <20081104091801.ff0297b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:37:57 -0000 In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : > > I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk > usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and > iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around > 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending > requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). > > fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well > as the amount of 'em is just the same. > > How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" > or "disktop" tool or something alike? top -m io -o total -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:42:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8BC106567A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062248FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:42:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl20-3.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.147.3]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mA4Eg30N016066 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:10 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA4Eg2xP093574; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA4Eg2Nj093573; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:02 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "J MPZ" References: <490FA51F.7010901@datapipe.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:42:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: (J. MPZ's message of "Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:10:25 -0200") Message-ID: <87mygfv9hi.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mA4Eg30N016066 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.853, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.55, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:42:16 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:10:25 -0200, "J MPZ" wrote: > Hi Paul, > > When my connections freeze, I open the tcpdump in other terminal. If I type > something, type "Enter", on the terminal frozen, the tcpdump show packets, > like that: > > 11:18:45.526256 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 651, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: > TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 193:241(48) > ack 0 win 15136 {1428:1664}> [...] > I'm using: tcpdump -nvvv -i ste0 host REMOTE_IP Can you try capturing the connection setup packets, so we can look at the TCP MSS negotiation values? Starting TCPDUMP *before* one of the connections that stall is made should capture that. There may be an intermediate router or firewall that blocks ICMP and ends up breaking path MTU discovery. I've seen TCP connections 'stall' when path-mtu was broken by a setup like this and one of the intermediate routers started dropping TCP packets that were too large for one of its interfaces. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:42:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407F61065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:42:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF35C8FC2C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by QMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id azYQ1a0090SCNGk562iDVz; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:42:13 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b2im1a00L2P6wsM3V2in0U; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:42:47 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=m19SymEod5gA:10 a=Q-Mlv7CZpQ4A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=Dh5jnQWItHBKTTWyTtgA:9 a=c3zM--vnGhh8VBv_76e6asoANksA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 240D7C9424; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:42:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:42:46 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Johan Hendriks Message-ID: <20081104144246.GA50265@icarus.home.lan> References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:42:50 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:36:51PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: > Hello all > I have a small issue when i switch between my console?s on a proliant DL160 G5 machine. > It has a time gap from around 1 to 2 seconds and then it will switch to the next console after pressing ALT - F2 > > Do I need to set something in my loader.conf or sysctl.conf? Chances are you're using a USB keyboard. Place the following in /boot/loader.conf and reboot the machine: hint.kbdmux.0.disabled="1" -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:48:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3471065670; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:48:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F4E8FC0A; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA4EmtZT023644; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:48:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:48:57 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE208@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 Thread-Index: Ack+jAIFp8Ddnjc7QwyLVEwDwH0EWgAABnqA References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104144246.GA50265@icarus.home.lan> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:48:58 -0000 >>Onderwerp: Re: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:36:51PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: >> Hello all >> I have a small issue when i switch between my console?s on a proliant = DL160 G5 machine. >> It has a time gap from around 1 to 2 seconds and then it will switch = to the next console after pressing ALT - F2 >>=20 >> Do I need to set something in my loader.conf or sysctl.conf? >Chances are you're using a USB keyboard. Place the following in >/boot/loader.conf and reboot the machine: > >hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=3D"1" No i have a normal ps/2 keyboard connected to it. Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1765 - Release Date: = 3-11-2008 16:59 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:49:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB25D1065686 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA0C8FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1134818ywe.13 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RpS3XJAiHvWP0gZsYNlyW8gPZ+N+xCwsaHsnGhtzMyM=; b=dSPbNh3ZI+IJ+r3PjtrBXrt0w0n6PKQ4zkoJBr40KRL2hGEzkO7vsMmsmkZqelaQgA rGoFg4YslQmWidxeeUO9By7zb5+NCk2J2piXKphK3A7Gs3D2UfqmXyTssYcQVfoUCJaP 8JUoeBBvHtXQ5ls5sh0x1ZtXrtbuZUewSug/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hPv/qISGxkpz+0Kw+dDGUNbglfDQ8cllFGui2FPfkIIUz0NS78GpFvARR8GPOgQSOz 0TFnEBhuakAigVbrI9H0rHZPjqLG56ei+nTghuAL6J4ypG8satK1071NKEO9BCXa68wY qwvklXTBRrmvZqUuxFvBOgOxDPTMkp5VxPPOQ= Received: by 10.142.43.7 with SMTP id q7mr831978wfq.11.1225810181267; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.158.11 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:49:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:49:41 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081104091801.ff0297b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:49:43 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Eduardo Meyer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Bill Moran wrote: >> In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : >>> >>> I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk >>> usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and >>> iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around >>> 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending >>> requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). >>> >>> fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well >>> as the amount of 'em is just the same. >>> >>> How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" >>> or "disktop" tool or something alike? >> >> top -m io -o total > > Great, thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you a lot Mr Moran. I see syncer (40%) and bufaemon (10%) and after that, imapd. The first ones are kernel PIDs (36 and 37). PID USERNAME VCSW IVCSW READ WRITE FAULT TOTAL PERCENT COMMAND 36 root 2 2 0 31 0 31 40.79% bufdaemon 37 root 2 2 0 16 0 16 21.05% syncer 71501 vmail 4 0 0 0 0 0 12.00% imapd I guess it a symptom of some hardware problems, kernel itself is not supposed to do this many I/O, right? Sometimes PID 39, softdepflush, is always on top 3. -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:53:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B6DB1065686 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6293D8FC28 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:53:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 1866 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2008 14:53:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.136.88) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 4 Nov 2008 14:53:44 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 99FC5170CB; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:53:43 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:53:43 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: "Marc G. Fournier" Message-ID: <20081104145343.GA84440@ozzmosis.com> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:53:48 -0000 On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier (scrappy@hub.org) wrote: > For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats > to set things up. I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to ignore it. Regards Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:55:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFD51065678 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B04E8FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A96C3EBC09; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:55:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:55:08 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Eduardo Meyer" Message-Id: <20081104095508.f231a7e2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20081104091801.ff0297b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:55:10 -0000 In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Eduardo Meyer wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > >> In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : > >>> > >>> I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk > >>> usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and > >>> iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around > >>> 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending > >>> requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). > >>> > >>> fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well > >>> as the amount of 'em is just the same. > >>> > >>> How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" > >>> or "disktop" tool or something alike? > >> > >> top -m io -o total > > > > Great, thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you a lot Mr Moran. > > I see syncer (40%) and bufaemon (10%) and after that, imapd. The first > ones are kernel PIDs (36 and 37). > > PID USERNAME VCSW IVCSW READ WRITE FAULT TOTAL PERCENT COMMAND > 36 root 2 2 0 31 0 31 40.79% bufdaemon > 37 root 2 2 0 16 0 16 21.05% syncer > 71501 vmail 4 0 0 0 0 0 12.00% imapd > > I guess it a symptom of some hardware problems, kernel itself is not > supposed to do this many I/O, right? > > Sometimes PID 39, softdepflush, is always on top 3. Off the top of my head, it looks like you're exceeding what the hardware can do. What kind of disks do you have in that system? It may be time to get faster disks or expand to a high-performance RAID setup. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 14:55:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4DC106568C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:55:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126EF8FC1E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by QMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b0A31a00B0S2fkCA92vasW; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:55:34 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b2vZ1a00T2P6wsM8V2vZDp; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:55:34 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=m19SymEod5gA:10 a=Q-Mlv7CZpQ4A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=TRpJAAx7vah10EkHhS4A:9 a=KhGpiBPGjahNWogM6ZmI6-o-DXcA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5E6FC9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:55:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:55:33 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Johan Hendriks Message-ID: <20081104145533.GA50581@icarus.home.lan> References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104144246.GA50265@icarus.home.lan> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE208@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE208@w2003s01.double-l.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:55:35 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:48:57PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: > > > >>Onderwerp: Re: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:36:51PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: > >> Hello all > >> I have a small issue when i switch between my console?s on a proliant DL160 G5 machine. > >> It has a time gap from around 1 to 2 seconds and then it will switch to the next console after pressing ALT - F2 > >> > >> Do I need to set something in my loader.conf or sysctl.conf? > > >Chances are you're using a USB keyboard. Place the following in > >/boot/loader.conf and reboot the machine: > > > >hint.kbdmux.0.disabled="1" > > > No i have a normal ps/2 keyboard connected to it. Try the above anyway. There are known problems (and LORs) in kbdmux. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:02:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2820310656B1 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDD98FC35 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dudu.meyer@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3210687wfg.7 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:02:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=f3fFVcGJJFwRCv1NPKqPWN7O7l68iYQn4d4ubbLgF/g=; b=ov7oVJ0F1jz/epajeQWrbc/tYLiTTE5jrq02TpsYSKM1QSDdeDqIvtaXbqGVg/P8Ka XQBEbodSL7XxskjTn8RXu0N6mm80uqA58t3eLUnalAz9/W+fXKKrnDGkdzunHrNhkPbN YBgaIkMTeuGvno3qysSCT/XiCVghgRI4qZvB0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=DfX3hPV71ohuJgib4y9AnA3Dv7q8S+yLWR0a1fdvgdJxNSIMcaaCNqYihVoh9zlvc0 zNrtQ0FldbDepIfwiD1m4gTVpumEbGfASwZy3/mmZ1hLmJiqO2zQaV4YtZ1O2uYH1m6m i/YIkuGtv9pqxhYi1+JYOfUPD3Y/rNHO0L8dU= Received: by 10.142.81.7 with SMTP id e7mr814661wfb.320.1225810929243; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.158.11 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:02:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:02:09 -0200 From: "Eduardo Meyer" To: "Bill Moran" In-Reply-To: <20081104095508.f231a7e2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081104091801.ff0297b0.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <20081104095508.f231a7e2.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:02:10 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Eduardo Meyer wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Bill Moran wrote: >> >> In response to "Eduardo Meyer" : >> >>> >> >>> I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk >> >>> usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and >> >>> iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around >> >>> 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending >> >>> requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). >> >>> >> >>> fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well >> >>> as the amount of 'em is just the same. >> >>> >> >>> How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" >> >>> or "disktop" tool or something alike? >> >> >> >> top -m io -o total >> > >> > Great, thats exactly what I was looking for, thank you a lot Mr Moran. >> >> I see syncer (40%) and bufaemon (10%) and after that, imapd. The first >> ones are kernel PIDs (36 and 37). >> >> PID USERNAME VCSW IVCSW READ WRITE FAULT TOTAL PERCENT COMMAND >> 36 root 2 2 0 31 0 31 40.79% bufdaemon >> 37 root 2 2 0 16 0 16 21.05% syncer >> 71501 vmail 4 0 0 0 0 0 12.00% imapd >> >> I guess it a symptom of some hardware problems, kernel itself is not >> supposed to do this many I/O, right? >> >> Sometimes PID 39, softdepflush, is always on top 3. > > Off the top of my head, it looks like you're exceeding what the hardware > can do. What kind of disks do you have in that system? It may be time > to get faster disks or expand to a high-performance RAID setup. Its a: Master: ad4 Serial ATA II I still think its a hw (disk or controller) problem. I have raised the following: kern.filedelay=90 kern.dirdelay=90 kern.metadelay=90 Now, my disk usage is back to 30% > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > -- =========== Eduardo Meyer pessoal: dudu.meyer@gmail.com profissional: ddm.farmaciap@saude.gov.br From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:03:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E6C106567B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4C58FC1A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6454727 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:03:28 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:03:31 -0000 Hi, don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) and the installation hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. I see acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config and so on. Any clues? -- Christoph Kukulies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:06:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A10D21065679 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:06:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABB698FC0C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:06:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 9657 invoked by uid 98); 4 Nov 2008 15:05:37 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 6.327289 secs); 04 Nov 2008 15:05:37 -0000 Received: from main.lerwick.hopto.org (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 4 Nov 2008 15:05:30 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Roey Dror In-Reply-To: References: <1225808192.3407.16.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:06:42 +0000 Message-Id: <1225811203.3802.4.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GDM login without using a password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:06:55 -0000 On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:32 +0200, Roey Dror wrote: > > AFAIK the automatic login feature allows you to nominate a user to > > automatically log in as... it doesn't ask for the password but I think > > one can be set (so it doesn't need to be empty). > > As I said, the automatic login feature is not what I'm looking for. > I need to set up more than one user that is able to login without a password. > The computer is a home computer, so local security is not an issue. > OK the pam stuff that is talked about online is found in /etc/pam.d/gdm. I have seen a few suggestions to change the auth to optional instead of required. However there would be nothing to stop some one logging in as root through gdm. Maybe there is some way of fudging gnome to accept more than one passwordless user account.... good luck finding it Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:11:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A9A106567C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFCC8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:11:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KxNYs-00055z-Vs for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:11:18 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:11:18 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:11:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:11:05 +0200 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> <48FD9091.8000809@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081001 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <48FD9091.8000809@telus.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:11:25 -0000 Carl wrote: >>> So how do I achieve per-slice journaling instead of per-partition? >> The docs only says this: "gjournal only supports UFS2". It does not >> specifically say that you cannot have per-slice journaling. However, >> since you could have other filesystems on your slice, I bet that slice >> based journaling is not supported. > > I thought I read somewhere that because gjournal is block based and not > really part of the filesystem, that it could easily be extended for any > other filesystem. My imagination said that gjournal was probably > therefore only temporarily limited to a slice full of UFS partitions. > Anyone know for sure? gjournal needs to know what what data is actually metadata. In case of UFS the -J flag given to newfs tells system that using this fs we should mark metadata for gjournal use. >> Another tricky question: why would you journal a SWAP partition? > > Well, I don't really want to, but how big does a partition like /var > have to be before it's no longer ill-advised to journal it individually? > A fair bit of writing can occur in /var and the scenario my server will > occupy has me concerned about inglorious shutdowns. > > What are the actual reasons for why journaling a small partition is > considered a bad idea? Journal needs to bee big enough to amass all modifications. By default it's 1G. Just compare this to the size of your /var. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:16:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8E8106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f17.google.com (mail-gx0-f17.google.com [209.85.217.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96058FC23 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:16:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so344945gxk.13 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:16:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=p81SzYzPNnZsYcVpdjsAEb+r+4fyVl/wj9MvmQAr59k=; b=H7Jt2EUbhriX8n88iIhD0NtebIZ3fO+RZcukralMK83Vh6D0LZxVaz4RkLz3UkoUBp dslHqQXEVin8YbffKoQiRUo9TP1G7Rt+bCtThiKC25Wr0akR6uwnvmn0QUwZP8tNGgNI k60NNXokelMy2tDHVC2NGOe/UEHTqSUJJHjrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=lRfWUavaVjFFjMWpsUMCMda5Rs2j3bx4D5Ovlax7xg4/BaRg/kUqmu2tmP4wTQoFsI DzmXQKy6GIjPnx3ErWfY2Dzk/gzvOXiXIuxXXNmv5ag8Fglz8cp6sF8Ig897ZARYMag/ OppHA+qKtXbv8HCoiabpV/bcA5oeTtM+l/ADg= Received: by 10.151.148.2 with SMTP id a2mr2576126ybo.56.1225810483040; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.182.18 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:54:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540811040654sdff4decxbad97265f0983b45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:54:43 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: "Alex Zhang" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: Questions Subject: Re: how much memory can be support in FreeBSD system? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:16:07 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Alex Zhang wrote: > Hi buddy. > > > > I'm a new comer and want to configure a Virtual server base on UNIX. The > safe, steady and easy for maintenance is needed. > > Approximately 8GB memory will be mounted. Can anyone tell me how much memory > can be supported in FreeBSD? > > Thanks. > > > > BR > > Alex > > See http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/compatibility-memory.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:17:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13266106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:17:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C928FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brucec@muon.cran.org.uk) Received: by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0F4BB19268; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:58:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:58:08 -0500 From: Bruce Cran To: Bob McConnell Message-ID: <20081104145807.GA12700@muon.cran.org.uk> References: <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Bruce Cran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: garmin forerunner 305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:17:08 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:28:05AM -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: > On Behalf Of Bruce Cran > > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 20:24:02 +0100 > > Bruce Cran wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:51:33 -0300 > >> "Joey Mingrone" wrote: > >> > >> > Has anyone had any success collecting data from a Garmin Forerunner > >> > 305? > >> > > >> > When I connect the device I see the kernel messages: > >> > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x091e product > >> > 0x0003 bus uhub1 > >> > Sep 4 11:39:22 jrm kernel: ugen0: >> > class 255/255, rev 1.10/0.01, addr 2> on uhub1 > >> > > >> > The documentation for the port astro/GPSMan seems to indicate it > >> > supports this model, but I haven't had any luck. > >> > > >> > % uname -a > >> > FreeBSD xxx.xxx 7.0-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p1 #3: Thu Jun > 12 > >> > 18:47:50 ADT 2008 root@xxx.xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386 > >> > >> Unfortunately Garmin use their own protocol for communicating between > >> the GPS and the PC. Under Linux it's supported by the garmin_gps > >> driver but there's no equivalent for FreeBSD yet. > >> > > > > Sorry, it turns out that's wrong: the gpsbabel developers recommend > not > > using garmin_gps because apparently it often doesn't work. Instead > > they recommend using gpsbabel's 'garmin' input/output format. It > > interfaces to the device using libusb - which, fortunately for us runs > > on FreeBSD! I've just successfully read back GPS data into a GPX file > > using gpsbabel on FreeBSD 8-CURRENT and the 'usb2' usb stack. > > > > I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping > > version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to make a > > change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. > > The best way to help fix these problems are: > > A) Submit a patch for the changes you made. > > B) Contact the maintainers and provide them with all of the details, > what you found, what didn't work, what you modified and the final > results. If you have traces or data captures, they may want to see them. > They can't fix problems they don't understand. If they don't have access > to that hardware, or something similar, they might even ask you to do > some experiments for them to extend their knowledge. All of that will > help them improve the quality of future releases. > It looks like it may be a bug in libusb20 or the usb2 stack. I've sent an email to Hans and freebsd-usb@ and will see what they think. I very much suspect it's not a bug in gpsbabel itself because USB_ENDPOINT_ADDRESS_MASK must exist for a reason, and removing the masking was just a hack to get things working just now. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:28:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249B01065670; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C328FC18; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:28:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr7.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA4FS5rA066068; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:28:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:28:07 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE209@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 Thread-Index: Ack+jdOsSe3quvhFSmC1zJFEVuPenAAA+Bfg References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104144246.GA50265@icarus.home.lan> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE208@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104145533.GA50581@icarus.home.lan> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:28:07 -0000 >> >>Onderwerp: Re: Slow swith between console (ALT - Fx) proliant DL160 >>=20 >> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 03:36:51PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: >> >> Hello all >> >> I have a small issue when i switch between my console?s on a = proliant DL160 G5 machine. >> >> It has a time gap from around 1 to 2 seconds and then it will = switch >to the next console after pressing ALT - F2 >> >>=20 >> >> Do I need to set something in my loader.conf or sysctl.conf? >>=20 >> >Chances are you're using a USB keyboard. Place the following in >> >/boot/loader.conf and reboot the machine: >> > >> >hint.kbdmux.0.disabled=3D"1" >>=20 >>=20 >> No i have a normal ps/2 keyboard connected to it. >Try the above anyway. There are known problems (and LORs) in kbdmux. Well i did try the setting and it works! Thank you very much. Regards Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1765 - Release Date: = 3-11-2008 16:59 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:33:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F7E106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:33:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBB68FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:33:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA4FX5E1025791 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:33:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:33:08 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE20A@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes Thread-Index: Ack+jdOsSe3quvhFSmC1zJFEVuPenAABHNBg References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104144246.GA50265@icarus.home.lan> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE208@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104145533.GA50581@icarus.home.lan> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:33:08 -0000 Is it wise to set the WITHOUT_PROFILE to yes Some say it is, some not, and what does it do exactly? regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.6/1765 - Release Date: = 3-11-2008 16:59 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:43:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784FF1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:43:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC71F8FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:43:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KxO3b-0006DY-Ji for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:43:03 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:43:03 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:43:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:42:50 +0200 Lines: 135 Message-ID: References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> <48FE6C64.7060606@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081001 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <48FE6C64.7060606@telus.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:43:07 -0000 Carl wrote: > Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: > >> I have some setups were gjournal was put on device rather the on >> partition, i.e.: >> >> [umgah] ~> gmirror status >> Name Status Components >> mirror/umgah0 COMPLETE ad0 >> ad1 >> [umgah] ~> gjournal status >> Name Status Components >> mirror/umgah0.journal N/A mirror/umgah0 >> [umgah] ~> glabel status >> Name Status Components >> ufs/umgah0root N/A mirror/umgah0.journala >> label/umgah0swap N/A mirror/umgah0.journalb >> ufs/umgah0usr N/A mirror/umgah0.journald >> ufs/umgah0var N/A mirror/umgah0.journale > > Does the above suggest that you've ended up with individual journal > providers for each partition anyway? If so, where are they and have you > really achieved anything functionally different? Are they at the end of > their individually associated partitions or all together somewhere else? > Has the ill-advised journaled small partition issue been successfully > overcome through what you've done? First, there is only one journal - for /dev/mirror/umgah0 and it is named /dev/mirror/umgah0.journal. Anything else is just a bsdlabel partitions, there are four of 'em. > >> [umgah] ~> mount >> /dev/ufs/umgah0root on / (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) >> devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >> /dev/md0 on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local) >> /dev/ufs/umgah0var on /var (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) >> /dev/ufs/umgah0usr on /usr (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) >> devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) >> >> And yes, mirror autosynchronization is turned off, gjournal takes care >> of that too. >> >> It's not stated in manual, but gjournal is typically transparent for >> any type of access, just in case of UFS file system is marked as >> journaled so any metadata writes can be distinguished from data >> writes. Without that gjournal does literally nothing. > > And what does this mean for your swap partition? Just nothing, it's just swap. It can't be journaled. > Laszlo Nagy wrote earlier: >> Another tricky question: why would you journal a SWAP partition? > > Volodymyr, does your assertion that gjournal does nothing when a file > system is not UFS mean that there is no penalty with regard to your swap > partition despite the existence of "mirror/umgah0.journalb"? I haven't seen any perfomance decrease in this configuration. And according to manual and articles about gjournal it should work this way. > Any chance you'd like to share your command sequence for constructing > your gmirror'd and gjournal'd filesystem, Volodymyr? :-) If we have two disks (ad0, ad1) it should look like this: > gmirror label -b load -n umgah0 ad1 We are getting all drive gmirrored without synchronization (we don't need it - journal would take care of any discrepancies) and with load balance (load was fixed not so long ago in stable and should be fine to go with). > gjournal label mirror/umgah0 We are creating a journal on top of our gmirror. It eats 1G from the end of the disks and gives us the rest to use. > bsdlabel -wB mirror/umgah0.journal We are writing the standard bsdlabel to the disk and making it bootable. After that we will get one partition 'a'. Yes, no fdisk. I don't think this old piece of rough junk is ever needed on machine running FreeBSD solely. It just takes space, it requires compatibility to forgotten-and-abandoned standards and gives nothing more. You have your server dual-booting Windows or Linux? This is the only case you need fdisk for. > bsdlabel -e mirror/umgah0.journal Now we are splitting our journal to some partitions. I did it this way: # /dev/mirror/umgah0.journal: 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 524288 16 4.2BSD b: 16777216 * swap c: 779325614 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't edit d: 33554432 * 4.2BSD e: * * 4.2BSD After that we can format this filesystems: > newfs -J -L umgah0root /dev/mirror/umgah0.journala > newfs -J -L umgah0var /dev/mirror/umgah0.journald > newfs -J -L umgah0usr /dev/mirror/umgah0.journale And label the swap: > glabel label umgah0swap /dev/mirror/umgah0.journalb You can skip all this glabel thing, I just prefer to have slim fstab, as slim as possible. /dev/label/umgah0swap none swap sw 0 0 md /tmp mfs rw,-s1024m,-S,-oasync 0 0 /dev/ufs/umgah0root / ufs rw,async,noatime 0 1 /dev/ufs/umgah0var /var ufs rw,async,noatime 0 2 /dev/ufs/umgah0usr /usr ufs rw,async,noatime 0 2 There's a lot more here to describe from moving system to newly created partitions to inserting and rebuilding our first disk to gmirror. All this issues are described in handbook or other articles found on the net. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:46:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEBB1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:46:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C0B8FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:46:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C96B1905E; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:46:40 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:46:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 07:46:23 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: Boris Samorodov Message-ID: <20081104074623.25f51f27@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <80794437@bs1.sp34.ru> References: <20080904202402.0c245ed2@tau.draftnet> <20081103192749.2f35701b@tau.draftnet> <80794437@bs1.sp34.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Hans, Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Petter Selasky Subject: Re: garmin forerunner 305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:46:42 -0000 On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:57:14 +0300 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Bruce Cran writes: > > > I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping > > version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to > > make a change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. > > Can you submit a patch? Thanks! Having just read about endpoint addresses I'm not sure who's wrong. gpsbabel truncates the address to the first 4 bytes using USB_ENDPOINT_ADDRESS_MASK from libusb20 while the stack clearly wants the rest, including the top 'direction' bit. In fact in /sys/dev/usb2/core/usb2_device.c line 114 it masks out the reserved bits but still keeps the direction bit. usb2_get_pipe_by_addr was failing when passed address 1 because the full endpoint address is 0x81 (endpoint 1, direction IN). It looks as though by changing EA_MASK to be just the endpoint number would fix the problem, but I'm not sure if that's correct. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 15:51:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA203106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:51:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) Received: from mxin.vub.ac.be (mxin.vub.ac.be [134.184.129.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14438FC28 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:51:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jcigar@ulb.ac.be) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgABAE/xD0mkD30E/2dsb2JhbAAIyxGDUw Received: from bebif01.ulb.ac.be (HELO [10.0.0.194]) ([164.15.125.4]) by smtp.vub.ac.be with ESMTP; 04 Nov 2008 16:51:30 +0100 From: Julien Cigar To: Christoph Kukulies In-Reply-To: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:51:39 +0100 Message-Id: <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:51:34 -0000 I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Hi, > > don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the > motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. > Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) and > the installation > hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. > > I see > > acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 > run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config > run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config > run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config > > and so on. > > Any clues? > > -- > Christoph Kukulies > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform http://www.biodiversity.be Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) Campus de la Plaine CP 257 Bâtiment NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) Boulevard du Triomphe, entrée ULB 2 B-1050 Bruxelles Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 Tel : 02 650 57 52 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:23:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9274F1065747 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642538FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3676F1905E; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:23:53 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:23:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:23:41 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: "Johan Hendriks" Message-ID: <20081104082341.6614d723@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE20A@w2003s01.double-l.local> References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE207@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104144246.GA50265@icarus.home.lan> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE208@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081104145533.GA50581@icarus.home.lan> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE20A@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /etc/src.conf WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:23:54 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:33:08 +0100 "Johan Hendriks" wrote: > Is it wise to set the WITHOUT_PROFILE to yes > Some say it is, some not, and what does it do exactly? All it does is prevent building the profiled versions of the libraries: look in /usr/lib and you'll see for example libc.so and libc_p.so - the _p version is the profiled version. The only problem I can see with disabling it using WITHOUT_PROFILE is that unless you remove the _p libraries they'll become stale over time. -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:27:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8B5106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE328FC2C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3094450rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:27:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+r7BTlSh/Mrbv4tCWmqSb4PNXaw29xenddbE9NaqryM=; b=gUGQs37AjxLiTeTuSwNTnRCAw8u6CO7z8sx8uIAOLtDfohh1Gz4qtKP/sAbfpxaWaj BbzIwRLt9RCyKwpRY1FYxeOpP+qfDi50gnCwtISJpekYKKz0w8hvgixtJm44IfQ1zwbp W/kdHNQfjDImNQNmFFeKczHLfJdsa7C8jbEj4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Ay5npMkxW8/2ADUCZ8+kEyHtHxE+6iUIjRMbIjWzSHJWPlzqEuE8nxq+ayYECDKZZT PoUIh57jQmg5vJHQBBRXziUEqBH5JEteLXvmvbzUKE1t6JM9izCvk12FEZ+7pTjkhCfj IX2XjWV+FYV0RAUFe5NiAPPenoFBDwgdjgbmA= Received: by 10.140.147.5 with SMTP id u5mr960006rvd.274.1225816069695; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:27:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:27:49 +0200 From: "Roey Dror" To: "Craig Butler" In-Reply-To: <1225811203.3802.4.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1225808192.3407.16.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <1225811203.3802.4.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GDM login without using a password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:27:50 -0000 > > OK the pam stuff that is talked about online is found in /etc/pam.d/gdm. > I have seen a few suggestions to change the auth to optional instead of > required. However there would be nothing to stop some one logging in as > root through gdm. > Is there any other pam module which can supply a passwordless login? maybe pam_guest? -- Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:27:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E97FD1065721 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivervbk@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9324E8FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivervbk@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 70591 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 16:01:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=CuZcYHItNiS0o10gFDY5/CeXBmvpIXOqjZ8KzboU5UTYI54cLHTo7nFX7NRiUUfxD9Le6t6DXbgRzQ69V+vX7lQa1Xs/IBNO7FFQmWWnbQvVIcxoYP/ngm4Nv/mGGAhxNKiXdu1AQpv+ZpWhI1itSbhZB08Q84P+TGoTkmY0bbw=; X-YMail-OSG: HRmicoAVM1nwKqcTwXixwM4kW2GzZZ9L6bmxRtiScE97EdYb0dhJ3X_TUAp4vEOHnQ7XtOpiZ7ZR0625tYFJkXoN5DhAFfQj4h5ZiGF1ziEcL048YR89ovpZUkNr4NMjERckMnVT6LmTdEPS_E2uEP_H9VOvtZi3XSvXSH3iG4_Mc_m67t5aJQ6duYRb Received: from [146.164.70.235] by web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:01:17 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:01:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Oliver v.B.K." To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <969715.65514.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Question: Howto Cvsup mirror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0000 Hi,=0AI've been trying to setup a freebsd7.0 mirror on my network for my ne= eds. The ftp mirror is working great(used a repository with cobbler) =0Abut= with the cvsup mirror I'm quite lost.=0A=0AI read in the freebsd handbook = what cvsup does and how it works but I didn't find anywhere=0Aexplaining ho= w to create a mirror.=0A=0ASince the mirror server on the network runs cent= os5.2 I tried running csup instead of compiling cvsup with modula3.=0AI tri= ed it out with the supfiles I use on the freebsd7.0 machines and it worked = pretty well I guess...=0A=0ANow... what kind of server should I use ? is th= ere a cvsupd I can use? or a normal CVS server should be enough ?=0A=0AThan= ks=0A=0A =0AOliver vBK=0A=0A=0A=0A Novos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que = voc=C3=AA conhece. Crie um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketm= ail.com.=0Ahttp://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:30:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC83D106568B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC4A8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:30:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 6so1041674eyi.7 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:30:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received :x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=f+XOjJYH8AXffQ7WsFvOiOYbKEaMy9hkCYbT2lSbT9E=; b=a7lase8kb/+U018GnB1kXousu836vPmecyrJ5VvoOcC/OFxyVOEKrlBehnIsoW5RS/ oIX0PtkNL/LgUWrGeSWOWPK2e5859LYgDGJE4pU1sE77FEsTa+per0eX0W+RsUlLrGeP Mn2X9uYO02Peq1hjfqai6bezQOPK71RYW+t2Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=uEFxNSWypg5Bq2wLA+M0a1tsDjzUY86pEmiOeTVlKywWy/nlyBp7CNxBiTS89n86GQ RyIe0KbMDzH3e6sPMFKDr5i3WJS0UOPGKlTQbab83GFBj6DT2zV2hyYHso301DM2mAI6 mrdZLMvOmYOI5oj0rkNUmwM68dGVFb/8b3T88= Received: by 10.210.87.19 with SMTP id k19mr1870114ebb.109.1225816252166; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org ([85.175.24.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g11sm2711197gve.8.2008.11.04.08.30.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org (yuri@darklight.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA4GUl7f001392; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:30:47 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA4GUlMF001391; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:30:47 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.homeunix.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:30:47 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: "Oliver v.B.K." Message-ID: <20081104163047.GA1203@darklight.homeunix.org> References: <969715.65514.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <969715.65514.qm@web65709.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question: Howto Cvsup mirror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:30:54 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:01:17AM -0800, Oliver v.B.K. wrote: > Hi, > I've been trying to setup a freebsd7.0 mirror on my network for my needs. The ftp mirror is working great(used a repository with cobbler) > but with the cvsup mirror I'm quite lost. > > I read in the freebsd handbook what cvsup does and how it works but I didn't find anywhere > explaining how to create a mirror. > > Since the mirror server on the network runs centos5.2 I tried running csup instead of compiling cvsup with modula3. > I tried it out with the supfiles I use on the freebsd7.0 machines and it worked pretty well I guess... > > Now... what kind of server should I use ? is there a cvsupd I can use? or a normal CVS server should be enough ? > > Thanks > > > Oliver vBK Check /usr/ports/net/cvsup-mirror HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:36:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DC41065678 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from smtprelay09.ispgateway.de (smtprelay09.ispgateway.de [80.67.29.23]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EE28FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de) Received: from [88.153.0.16] (helo=localhost) by smtprelay09.ispgateway.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KxOsy-0002bk-Op for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:36:08 +0100 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:35:59 +0100 From: Fabian Keil To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081104173559.2901b14e@fabiankeil.de> In-Reply-To: <20081030192026.GA5498@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081030195105.1b5a154d@fabiankeil.de> <20081030192026.GA5498@rebelion.Sisis.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) X-PGP-KEY-URL: http://www.fabiankeil.de/gpg-keys/freebsd-listen-2008-08-18.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Sl37_ADLVUDZNaobOHu3fM3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Df-Sender: 775067 Subject: Re: tangoGPS && FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:36:10 -0000 --Sig_/Sl37_ADLVUDZNaobOHu3fM3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Thursday, October 30, 2008 a las 07:51:05PM +0100, Fabian Keil e= scribi=F3: >=20 > > Matthias Apitz wrote: > >=20 > > > Is anybody aware of a port of tangoGPS > > > http://www.tangogps.org/gps/cat/About to FreeBSD 7.0? It runs it in my > > > Linux based cellphone Openmoko FreeRunner and it would be nice to have > > > it as well in my eeePC (just for having better capacity for cached ma= ps > > > of OpenStreetMap and a bigger display). What kind of USB based GPS > > > devices could be used in this eeePC with FreeBSD 7.0? > >=20 > > Using your FreeRunner seems like an obvious choice to me. > >=20 > > I got one as well, but I'm not aware of a tangoGPS port > > for FreeBSD and haven't looked into how much effort > > porting it would take either. >=20 > tangoGPS compiled and works just fine in FreeBSD, just the usual way: >=20 > ./configure > make > make install Good to know. Are you already working on a port? > it needs a gps daemon which is in the ports, and you need some GPS > device RS232 or USB based and the web pages of gpsd have a long list > of compatibel devices, for sure not all tested with FreeBSD; will see if > I could check some out in the near future; I was thinking about running tangoGPS on FreeBSD and connecting it to the gpsd already running on the Freerunner. Fabian --Sig_/Sl37_ADLVUDZNaobOHu3fM3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkQee8ACgkQBYqIVf93VJ3hrwCeN+iln4iIlbqdIOiiQW0EjEXZ wRQAn31Q/EBTsny35yZwFUoZRo6TKrlz =IDY+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Sl37_ADLVUDZNaobOHu3fM3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:38:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC1E1065687 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:38:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EEE8FC0C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:38:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6454786; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:38:27 +0100 Message-ID: <49107A75.9020500@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:38:13 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Cigar References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:38:28 -0000 Julien Cigar schrieb: > I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've > found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor > What I've found is enable/disable IDE Master in the BIOS settings. I disabled it to no avail. Just bought a SATA CD/DVD burner hoping to get along with this. -- Christoph Kukulies > (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) > > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) and >> the installation >> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >> >> I see >> >> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config >> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config >> >> and so on. >> >> Any clues? >> >> -- >> Christoph Kukulies >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:42:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64BA1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivervbk@yahoo.com.br) Received: from web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.9.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C1B18FC27 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivervbk@yahoo.com.br) Received: (qmail 48452 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 16:42:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.br; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QG6U/gSOzH+brSPezfDjXwI4LWBcFecrRs4WW+Jw3IaPw2tucn3I5SZSDlHZ1Hf8uEx9f69/tryfPpqFABabStXvnn/V0rMPr3CEhd6SNHfdDWc/Al8h4j2qT1pWe7DK2jNfdx1l06L5Q9unZqcoQXQqEuOTMArERE513kEtqFE=; X-YMail-OSG: vckkXDwVM1lT5oEaJzyHv7o9Y0uStEve1UIo92Xs6jUFnbG1H8zHvZRHQGbEOgHazUuZcI0oMqYOOS7ym2b6FJ4yxTQvwhNuQikhT9_zqJ6XKdeAjsLw5lSc4b.583x8_vNGck3kT3JxCgaQLolyL1JXL2AHW_ANarNYws2qiFJ0BbLs6nCCJQ38tKAg Received: from [146.164.70.235] by web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:42:07 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Oliver v.B.K." To: Yuri Pankov MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <845853.48094.qm@web65712.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Res: Question: Howto Cvsup mirror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:42:09 -0000 Yes, I know that this package exists... but I'm trying to setup a cvsup ser= ver on a CENTOS 5.2 machine. =0ADoes the cvsup client understands only this= cvsup-mirror server or is there any other cross-platform(centos) server I = can use ? for example a CVS server ?=0A=0Athanks=0A=0A =0AOliver vBK=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADe: Yuri Pankov =0APara: Oliver v.B.K. =0ACc: freebsd-quest= ions@freebsd.org=0AEnviadas: Ter=C3=A7a-feira, 4 de Novembro de 2008 14:30:= 47=0AAssunto: Re: Question: Howto Cvsup mirror?=0A=0AOn Tue, Nov 04, 2008 a= t 08:01:17AM -0800, Oliver v.B.K. wrote:=0A> Hi,=0A> I've been trying to se= tup a freebsd7.0 mirror on my network for my needs. The ftp mirror is worki= ng great(used a repository with cobbler) =0A> but with the cvsup mirror I'm= quite lost.=0A> =0A> I read in the freebsd handbook what cvsup does and ho= w it works but I didn't find anywhere=0A> explaining how to create a mirror= .=0A> =0A> Since the mirror server on the network runs centos5.2 I tried ru= nning csup instead of compiling cvsup with modula3.=0A> I tried it out with= the supfiles I use on the freebsd7.0 machines and it worked pretty well I = guess...=0A> =0A> Now... what kind of server should I use ? is there a cvsu= pd I can use? or a normal CVS server should be enough ?=0A> =0A> Thanks=0A>= =0A> =0A> Oliver vBK=0A=0ACheck /usr/ports/net/cvsup-mirror=0A=0A=0AHTH,= =0AYuri=0A=0A=0A=0A Novos endere=C3=A7os, o Yahoo! que voc=C3=AA conhe= ce. Crie um email novo com a sua cara @ymail.com ou @rocketmail.com.=0Ahttp= ://br.new.mail.yahoo.com/addresses From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:42:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 151771065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECB08FC1D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA4GdTBR035081; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA4GdT1W035080; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:39:28 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: David Allen Message-ID: <20081104163928.GA35005@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <2daa8b4e0811031738q759d34f4q274a676957ad379e@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811031738q759d34f4q274a676957ad379e@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: FreeBSD Question Subject: Re: Using csup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:42:56 -0000 On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 05:38:28PM -0800, David Allen wrote: > I'd like to move to using csup(1) and there's an error in the manpage > that's raising some questions for me: > > OPTIONS > base=base The default base directory is /usr/local/etc/csup. > > FILES > /usr/local/etc/cvsup Default base directory. > sup Default collDir subdirectory. > base/collDir/collection/checkouts* List files. > > Assuming that the default 'base' directory is /usr/local/etc/cvsup, would > the following three files be sufficient for csup to work? I have mine all in one file and pull all the updates at once. You can name the supfile on your csup command line. Then put it anywhere you want. Mine is in /etc. ////jerry > > # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/standard-supfile > *default tag=RELENG_7_0 > *default host=cvsup10.us.FreeBSD.org > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > src-all > > # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/doc-supfile > doc-all > > # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile > ports-all tag=. > > # usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/refuse > [contents of global refusefile] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 16:51:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F8F1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (fed1rmmtao101.cox.net [68.230.241.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A0A8FC1C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:51:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao101.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081104165110.YKLB6175.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from asus64 ([98.176.32.63]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id b4r91a00K1MjGMu044r926; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:51:09 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=e9zZnptHNXMA:10 a=n1ex6jiLdprbalXFTEYA:9 a=Pi1PYa8GgKA9l2SRtHC29vMYhKAA:4 a=UTHjzJaHNTUA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:51:04 -0800 From: Robert To: AN Message-ID: <20081104085104.53c4f498@asus64> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with MY Book external drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:51:10 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:13:21 +0000 (GMT) AN wrote: > I just purchased a WD MY Book external USB disk, I reformatted in UFS > and created a filesystem with sysinstall. I was able to put data on > it successfully, however overnite I had a power failure. Now I am > unable to mount the drive. The blue light is on, so it seems to be > getting power but the computer does not see it when I plug in the USB > cable. I can not run fsck because the system says /dev/da0s1d no > such file or directory. I tried da0s1, da0s1c, and da0s1d no luck. > I also tried to plug the disk into another machine, same thing the > disk is not recognized. Is it totally gone? Any help to recover > this disk would be really appreciated. > > TIA I have a bit of experience with MyBook. I had a friend ask me to look at two of hers that did the same thing yours is doing. It was a 500G that was out of warranty. I was able to open it up and found a standard 3.5 inch SATA hard drive. I directly connected it to a computer and the drive was totally dead. If the drive was connect to one of the first four physical drives that bios checked, then bios would halt and freeze. If it was connected through an add-on SATA card, then it bios would not recognize it. I purchased a replacement 500G SATA drive from NewEgg that was on sale and was able to install it in the original MyBook box. It is working perfectly. The drive I purchased carries a 3 year warranty as an added benefit whereas the MyBook is only a year. The controller is what make the front light operate and has nothing to do with the drive. The other thing you might want to check it the power adapter. The other MyBook failed in the exact same way but when I changed the adapter it was just fine. I hope this helps but YMMV Good luck Robert From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:02:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48834106567B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19C98FC18 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6454803; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:01:52 +0100 Message-ID: <49107FF1.1080900@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:01:37 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Cigar References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <49107A75.9020500@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49107A75.9020500@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:09 -0000 Christoph Kukulies schrieb: > Julien Cigar schrieb: >> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor >> > > What I've found is enable/disable IDE Master in the BIOS settings. I > disabled it to no avail. > Just bought a SATA CD/DVD burner hoping to get along with this. > Pitfall - SATA CDROM drive is not seen by the BIOS so I cannot boot from it or is there a way to get around this? Any other method to boot from? This motherboard isn't one of the newest, in contrary, quite old. Doesn't seem to support boot from USB device, so I depend on getting the system booted from CDROM. -- Christoph Kukulies > -- > Christoph Kukulies >> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >> >> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >>> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) >>> and the installation >>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>> >>> I see >>> >>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for >>> xpt_config >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for >>> xpt_config >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for >>> xpt_config >>> >>> and so on. >>> >>> Any clues? >>> >>> -- >>> Christoph Kukulies From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:02:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7C1106567C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:02:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) Received: from swip.net (mailfe10.swipnet.se [212.247.155.33]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3398FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hselasky@c2i.net) X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=d6BVkb5LuPPVEe4iNQMLyA==:17 a=SvBKbF2r-Qai6NR0jUYA:9 a=fwipAer_VuWxVy2JeHUA:7 a=DERtoPPVWl7d8ENQQxKiokMogH0A:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: from [62.113.135.6] (account mc467741@c2i.net [62.113.135.6] verified) by mailfe10.swip.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTPA id 969535923; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:05 +0100 From: Hans Petter Selasky To: Bruce Cran Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:04:08 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <80794437@bs1.sp34.ru> <20081104074623.25f51f27@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <20081104074623.25f51f27@tau.draftnet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811041704.09463.hselasky@c2i.net> Cc: Boris Samorodov , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: garmin forerunner 305 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:02:09 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:57:14 +0300 > > Boris Samorodov wrote: > > Bruce Cran writes: > > > I don't know if it'll work with the usb stack that's in shipping > > > version of FreeBSD though, and even with the new stack I had to > > > make a change to libgpsusb.c in gpsbabel to get it working. > > > > Can you submit a patch? Thanks! > > Having just read about endpoint addresses I'm not sure who's wrong. > gpsbabel truncates the address to the first 4 bytes using > USB_ENDPOINT_ADDRESS_MASK from libusb20 while > the stack clearly wants the rest, including the top 'direction' bit. In > fact in /sys/dev/usb2/core/usb2_device.c line 114 it masks out the > reserved bits but still keeps the direction bit. usb2_get_pipe_by_addr > was failing when passed address 1 because the full endpoint address is > 0x81 (endpoint 1, direction IN). It looks as though by changing EA_MASK > to be just the endpoint number would fix the problem, but I'm not > sure if that's correct. Hi, I'm going to fix this in libusb20. In the callbacks in libusb20 we know the direction and I will simply just fix it there. The applications I tested so far passed the correct endpoint value. --HPS int usb_bulk_write(usb_dev_handle * dev, int ep, char *bytes, int size, int timeout) { return (usb_std_io(dev, ep, bytes, size, timeout, 0)); } int usb_bulk_read(usb_dev_handle * dev, int ep, char *bytes, int size, int timeout) { return (usb_std_io(dev, ep, bytes, size, timeout, 0)); } int usb_interrupt_write(usb_dev_handle * dev, int ep, char *bytes, int size, int timeout) { return (usb_std_io(dev, ep, bytes, size, timeout, 1)); } int usb_interrupt_read(usb_dev_handle * dev, int ep, char *bytes, int size, int timeout) { return (usb_std_io(dev, ep, bytes, size, timeout, 1)); } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:03:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88E5106564A; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA6D8FC2F; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25A1B71FD2D; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:47:32 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at egr.msu.edu Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xWtZtZusDQgN; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from [35.9.44.65] (daemon.egr.msu.edu [35.9.44.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mcdouga9) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0346D71FD2B; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:47:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <49107CA1.5090309@egr.msu.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:47:29 -0500 From: Adam McDougall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080926) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eduardo Meyer References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: stable@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk top usage PIDs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:03:47 -0000 Eduardo Meyer wrote: > Hello, > > I have some serious issue. Sometimes something happens and my disk > usage performance find its limit quickly. I follow with gstat and > iostat -xw1, and everything usually happens just fine, with %b around > 20 and 0 to 1 pending i/o request. Suddely I get 30, 40 pending > requests and %b is always on 100% (or more than this). > > fstat and lsof gives me no hint, because the type of programs as well > as the amount of 'em is just the same. > > How can I find the PID which is hammering my disk? Is there an "iotop" > or "disktop" tool or something alike? > > Its a mail server. I have pop3, imap, I also have maildrop and > sometimes, httpd, working around the busiest mount point. > > I have also started AUDIT, however all I can get are the top PIDs > which issue read/write requests. Not the requests which take longer to > perform (the busiest ones), or should I look for some special audit > class or event other than open, read and write? > > Thank you in advance. > > top -mio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:15:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 034EE1065688 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:15:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DA58FC16 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnemmi@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so2211646rne.12 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:15:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=dspp0PK4jm74VQNW10zQalGtTQZOKqC82F6A8pTYF+E=; b=Vde1J8Ue9AL2NVyLDLM7zgBOf7vc5CPz8QX2397GdQrEaeWgNY07HlqHv5QWj2+cUL TTbmyle9oOvUQlja3bhNCVmXHE2W3R5ME0lhR0jW8qQuZbdJftYiLQkBy9p3Clzsa9Tn r12OTGMYh6crqOKfjo5b6jJyG3aUslXrS9HkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=GSXXO64sxjgOaoo18myG9jaCL8moUnLk/CXiDm75oevLUFZ8OBneC8LL0HpOmhQs7p OmCO+4vJxET6wXpxpndWUIeolMxThH7pqJHinzJ3VBcPBlwfBvoGrcpU4+Nvny+AY89x Nxl8KZqTUa6Y2HtCCN5jmKMtNmg3Zkqvw8sLs= Received: by 10.90.100.17 with SMTP id x17mr1275753agb.75.1225818453593; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ([190.177.218.74]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm11624999aga.10.2008.11.04.09.07.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:07:33 -0800 (PST) From: Gonzalo Nemmi To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:07:24 -0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811041507.25049.gnemmi@gmail.com> Subject: Question about /dev/sequencer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:15:17 -0000 [gonzalo@inferna ~]% uname -a FreeBSD inferna.inferna.com.ar 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Jul 20 03:44:42 ART 2008 root@inferna.inferna.com.ar:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INFERNA i386 My soundcar is already configured and running properly, kmid complains about /dev/sequencer being used by another app ... I checked on dev but there's no /dev/sequencer at all.. Any hints on how to configure my sound card to create it? [gonzalo@inferna ~]% grep pcm0 /var/log/messages Nov 4 13:40:31 inferna kernel: pcm0: port 0xd880-0xd89f irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci4 Nov 4 13:40:31 inferna kernel: pcm0: Nov 4 13:40:31 inferna kernel: pcm0: [ITHREAD] [gonzalo@inferna ~]% cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm: 32bit 2007061600/i386) Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0xd880 irq 16 [MPSAFE] (4p:1v/2r:1v channels duplex default) [gonzalo@inferna ~]% As a side effect of that, Fretsonfire can't play the mid songs .. so it plays the ogg but the mids are missing == unplayable :( I found this: # cd /dev # sh MAKEDEV snd0 on http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/sound-setup.html and gave it a shot just in case but it didn't work ... Any hint will be greatly aprecciated Thanks in advanced Regards -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:19:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E98CE1065680 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F468FC21 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:19:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802411A2C84; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:19:55 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 61234-05; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:19:54 -0400 (AST) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id A182111A2878; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:19:54 -0400 (AST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A4A11A2876; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:19:54 -0400 (AST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:19:54 -0400 (AST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: andrew clarke In-Reply-To: <20081104145343.GA84440@ozzmosis.com> Message-ID: <20081104131728.M52930@hub.org> References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <20081104145343.GA84440@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:19:56 -0000 On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: > On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier (scrappy@hub.org) wrote: > >> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats >> to set things up. > > I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too > long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had > bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats > was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the > bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am > going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just > a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the > router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going > on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to > ignore it. There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original script only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they would be counted also ... And you are correct, just change: bsdstats_enable="YES" to bsdstats_enable="NO" And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at a minimum, you just need: monthly_statistics_enable="YES" in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the devices/ports reports ... ---- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:21:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCFB1065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (fed1rmmtao106.cox.net [68.230.241.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309C98FC14 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:21:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from traveling08@cox.net) Received: from fed1rmimpo03.cox.net ([70.169.32.75]) by fed1rmmtao106.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20081104172136.FCCH8615.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:21:36 -0500 Received: from asus64 ([98.176.32.63]) by fed1rmimpo03.cox.net with bizsmtp id b5Mb1a00L1MjGMu045Mbs9; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:21:35 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=d_ms9U5TlvwDU8oKF90A:9 a=vdSE2KMP4B22muNccNFWWdRGKc4A:4 a=nLNdtIfjiDMA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:21:30 -0800 From: Robert To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Message-ID: <20081104092130.6e3d60fe@asus64> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: xfce decktop time display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:21:36 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:53:47 +0800 "FBSD1" wrote: > Using Xfce4 and the time is displayed in military time 2200. > Want to change this to regular AM/PM displayed time. 10pm > Been through the manual and all the menus and can not find knob to > change the time setting. > > Thanks for any help you can give. > Right click the time display and uncheck 24 hours From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:25:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD692106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF308FC14 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3121480rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=c3ZLFkIoigLl+8psVZQ5MxzlLpSCM0SQRqvTksmOYao=; b=BlyMKso75HgiWfefw4p5wx2kGFDPumnf1jVv2J2InwDh5Zoz9ageMIM5YZOCnFu9lq kPgvXXikLfw0Bf/BjBAfxANDgUv/E0mI2TTRxgAcugI/y0Y6H25FC8yeueAHTBsJDL7b RXj8M8kBENMIjZUri6t31Lohiu9V4NOHQ8ZLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MzLqaaq1Jx/3scOEkBPOOlmFImLnpNVYoclqDl11XcR2H8Tm5zxhX2wQ1CexeffSpU quAZ7lM/vPuMKg8TEWgf/xo5Kf6DqJrphvU6HlVA9Z5XRaSmTcISkf8neWa3Gz9Hjakw Jrz3LlcoYlUAkFyPHiQUK/bE5d0ick0bJwtMc= Received: by 10.141.163.12 with SMTP id q12mr1003951rvo.260.1225819539361; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:25:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:25:39 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <20081104131728.M52930@hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <47BB6151991A555176831AB5@ganymede.hub.org> <20081104145343.GA84440@ozzmosis.com> <20081104131728.M52930@hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:25:40 -0000 When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? Thanks Gabriel 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier > On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: > > On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier (scrappy@hub.org) >> wrote: >> >> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats >>> to set things up. >>> >> >> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too >> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had >> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats >> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the >> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am >> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just >> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the >> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going >> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to >> ignore it. >> > > There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original script > only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using > laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they would > be counted also ... > > And you are correct, just change: > > bsdstats_enable="YES" > > to > > bsdstats_enable="NO" > > And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at a > minimum, you just need: > > monthly_statistics_enable="YES" > > in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the > devices/ports reports ... > > ---- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org > ) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:52:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901451065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688718FC23 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 24206 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2008 17:52:50 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 4 Nov 2008 17:52:49 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id D6C6A5083E; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:52:46 -0500 (EST) To: Warren Liddell References: <490CF0C9.8080207@maydias.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:52:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <490CF0C9.8080207@maydias.com> (Warren Liddell's message of "Sun\, 02 Nov 2008 10\:14\:01 +1000") Message-ID: <447i7jpedt.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Error trying to fetch kdebase-workspace-4.1.3.tar.bz2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:52:50 -0000 Warren Liddell writes: > Does anyone have s ite where i can manually d/l > kdebase-workspace-4.1.3.tar.bz2 as all the addies in the freebsd ports > list for the file arent working for myself. I don't see any signs of it being built according to the build cluster: http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=&portname=kdebase4-workspace&wildcard= but that's obviously missing real data, because I found the package in my local package mirror: ftp://ftp5.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7-stable/All/kdebase-workspace-4.1.1.tbz -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 17:55:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461E3106567E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19478FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:55:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3135545rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:55:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TL43w4rHnBqnTHGbxOQwKTlgsC91SOBCP9NrPOyNc5U=; b=RMt8iZfCSgI05gzughj2C09KmuG3fLmrqEQTu+r+XRRfDXY9yVC3hK4+z5KgTadRas PoEFug51J22fYl0NjEssppu95dNsij36pcpj/xFQCy6uMETUauswouKCJuGMrfntvvFy Fdp6xa5m0Ki3URYbrmHdA/1vIpra+UDKbXXeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Hrj1nPqsMzzKa5+AEDy9rW1MJK6hSIaG7MnMdcv/F5agWPlqQLTlZGuMIouOucIHB0 0UaGidB22GV5cqM53KBJIKRvLYzH8FpNNlOdTOAr3sh+/trFqTZbn54IzLSiR0kH+YUM ndMgkHBtt5cVKXeCY+82acboYNTTPggIUk7SQ= Received: by 10.140.178.17 with SMTP id a17mr1040528rvf.156.1225821356545; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:55:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:55:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:55:56 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Volodymyr Kostyrko" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> <48FE6C64.7060606@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:55:57 -0000 Hello, I built a similar setup last weekend on a new home server with two 500GB drives. I didn't want to only put gmirror and have full drives rebuild on power failure/reset on the system. I was told that putting bsdlabels on a gjournal provider wasn't a good idea but I have yet to have an answer about why... I went with this setup anyway and I made some reset tests to see what happens on reboot and everything always went fine. When building this setup I got one big problem. If the root filesystem (/) was on a gjournal provider, an unclean shutdown when data was being written on the disk rendered the system completely unbootable. I got this message: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm launched (2/2) GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3672855181: mirror/gma contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3672855181: mirror/gma contains journal. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3868799910: mirror/gmd contains data. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3868799910: mirror/gmd contains journal. GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal mirror/gmd consistent. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm.journal Manual root filesystem specification: : Mount using filesystem eg. ufs:da0s1a ? List valid disk boot devices Abort manual input mountroot> ? List of GEOM managed disk devices: mirror/gmd.journal mirror/gmd mirror/gmc mirror/gma mirror/gm ad10s1c ad10s1b ad8s1c ad8s1b ad10s2 ad10s1 ad8s1 ad10 ad8 acd0 As you can see, in the proposed list of disk devices devices to boot on, "mirror/gm.journala" is absent. As I and Ivan Voras, that I contacted about this problem, found, the GEOM_JOURNAL thread that is supposed to mark the journal consistent takes too much time to do it with the root filesystem's provider and the kernel try to mount a device that doesn't yet exist. A bug report has been opened about this problem. For my final setup I decided to put the root filesystem on a separate mirrorred slice of 1GB. Since this slice isn't often written on, not many rebuilds should occur in case of power failure. And I made my "power failure" test by hitting the reset button while writing data on this filesystem and the rebuild on 1GB doesn't takes too much time (at most 20-30 seconds). Now I have the question. Why the "load" algorith wasn't recommended? Is it fixed in 7.0-RELEASE-p5? Here is my complete setup that seems to boot correctly every times I made my reset tests while writing data on each filesystems. The 2GB gjournal provider is directly on the mirror provider for all mirrored filesystems exept the root one and I made my bsd labels on the gjournal provider, instead of creating a journal for every filesystem. [root@headless ~]# cat /etc/fstab # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad10s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad8s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/mirror/root / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ufs/usr /usr ufs rw,async 2 2 /dev/ufs/var /var ufs rw,async 2 2 /dev/ufs/tmp /tmp ufs rw,async 2 2 /dev/ufs/home /home ufs rw,async 2 2 /dev/ufs/data /mnt/data ufs rw,async 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 [root@headless ~]# mount /dev/mirror/root on / (ufs, local, soft-updates) devfs on /dev (devfs, local) /dev/ufs/usr on /usr (ufs, asynchronous, local, gjournal) /dev/ufs/var on /var (ufs, asynchronous, local, gjournal) /dev/ufs/tmp on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local, gjournal) /dev/ufs/home on /home (ufs, asynchronous, local, acls, gjournal) /dev/ufs/data on /mnt/data (ufs, asynchronous, local, acls, gjournal) [root@headless ~]# glabel status Name Status Components ufs/usr N/A mirror/data.journald ufs/var N/A mirror/data.journale ufs/tmp N/A mirror/data.journalf ufs/home N/A mirror/data.journalg ufs/data N/A mirror/data.journalh [root@headless ~]# gjournal list Geom name: gjournal 372943514 ID: 372943514 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/data.journal Mediasize: 495810966528 (462G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r5w5e11 Consumers: 1. Name: mirror/data Mediasize: 497958450688 (464G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 497958450176 Jstart: 495810966528 Role: Data,Journal [root@headless ~]# gmirror list Geom name: data State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: split Slice: 4096 Flags: NOFAILSYNC GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 990032118 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/data Mediasize: 497958450688 (464G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad8s2 Mediasize: 497958451200 (464G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: HARDCODED GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 235591066 2. Name: ad10s2 Mediasize: 497958451200 (464G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: HARDCODED GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 2007880058 Geom name: root State: COMPLETE Components: 2 Balance: split Slice: 4096 Flags: NONE GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 4098555256 Providers: 1. Name: mirror/root Mediasize: 1073022976 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: ad8s1a Mediasize: 1073023488 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: HARDCODED GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 3394521634 2. Name: ad10s1a Mediasize: 1073023488 (1.0G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 State: ACTIVE Priority: 0 Flags: HARDCODED GenID: 0 SyncID: 1 ID: 3774466459 Gabriel 2008/11/4 Volodymyr Kostyrko > Carl wrote: > >> Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: >> >> I have some setups were gjournal was put on device rather the on >>> partition, i.e.: >>> >>> [umgah] ~> gmirror status >>> Name Status Components >>> mirror/umgah0 COMPLETE ad0 >>> ad1 >>> [umgah] ~> gjournal status >>> Name Status Components >>> mirror/umgah0.journal N/A mirror/umgah0 >>> [umgah] ~> glabel status >>> Name Status Components >>> ufs/umgah0root N/A mirror/umgah0.journala >>> label/umgah0swap N/A mirror/umgah0.journalb >>> ufs/umgah0usr N/A mirror/umgah0.journald >>> ufs/umgah0var N/A mirror/umgah0.journale >>> >> >> Does the above suggest that you've ended up with individual journal >> providers for each partition anyway? If so, where are they and have you >> really achieved anything functionally different? Are they at the end of >> their individually associated partitions or all together somewhere else? Has >> the ill-advised journaled small partition issue been successfully overcome >> through what you've done? >> > > First, there is only one journal - for /dev/mirror/umgah0 and it is named > /dev/mirror/umgah0.journal. Anything else is just a bsdlabel partitions, > there are four of 'em. > > >> [umgah] ~> mount >>> /dev/ufs/umgah0root on / (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) >>> devfs on /dev (devfs, local) >>> /dev/md0 on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local) >>> /dev/ufs/umgah0var on /var (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) >>> /dev/ufs/umgah0usr on /usr (ufs, asynchronous, local, noatime, gjournal) >>> devfs on /var/named/dev (devfs, local) >>> >>> And yes, mirror autosynchronization is turned off, gjournal takes care of >>> that too. >>> >>> It's not stated in manual, but gjournal is typically transparent for any >>> type of access, just in case of UFS file system is marked as journaled so >>> any metadata writes can be distinguished from data writes. Without that >>> gjournal does literally nothing. >>> >> >> And what does this mean for your swap partition? >> > > Just nothing, it's just swap. It can't be journaled. > > Laszlo Nagy wrote earlier: >> >>> Another tricky question: why would you journal a SWAP partition? >>> >> >> Volodymyr, does your assertion that gjournal does nothing when a file >> system is not UFS mean that there is no penalty with regard to your swap >> partition despite the existence of "mirror/umgah0.journalb"? >> > > I haven't seen any perfomance decrease in this configuration. And according > to manual and articles about gjournal it should work this way. > > Any chance you'd like to share your command sequence for constructing your >> gmirror'd and gjournal'd filesystem, Volodymyr? :-) >> > > If we have two disks (ad0, ad1) it should look like this: > > > gmirror label -b load -n umgah0 ad1 > > We are getting all drive gmirrored without synchronization (we don't need > it - journal would take care of any discrepancies) and with load balance > (load was fixed not so long ago in stable and should be fine to go with). > > > gjournal label mirror/umgah0 > > We are creating a journal on top of our gmirror. It eats 1G from the end of > the disks and gives us the rest to use. > > > bsdlabel -wB mirror/umgah0.journal > > We are writing the standard bsdlabel to the disk and making it bootable. > After that we will get one partition 'a'. > > > Yes, no fdisk. I don't think this old piece of rough junk is ever needed on > machine running FreeBSD solely. It just takes space, it requires > compatibility to forgotten-and-abandoned standards and gives nothing more. > You have your server dual-booting Windows or Linux? This is the only case > you need fdisk for. > > > > bsdlabel -e mirror/umgah0.journal > > Now we are splitting our journal to some partitions. I did it this way: > > # /dev/mirror/umgah0.journal: > 8 partitions: > # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] > a: 524288 16 4.2BSD > b: 16777216 * swap > c: 779325614 0 unused 0 0 # "raw" part, don't > edit > d: 33554432 * 4.2BSD > e: * * 4.2BSD > > After that we can format this filesystems: > > > newfs -J -L umgah0root /dev/mirror/umgah0.journala > > newfs -J -L umgah0var /dev/mirror/umgah0.journald > > newfs -J -L umgah0usr /dev/mirror/umgah0.journale > > And label the swap: > > > glabel label umgah0swap /dev/mirror/umgah0.journalb > > You can skip all this glabel thing, I just prefer to have slim fstab, as > slim as possible. > > > /dev/label/umgah0swap none swap sw 0 0 > > md /tmp mfs rw,-s1024m,-S,-oasync 0 0 > > /dev/ufs/umgah0root / ufs rw,async,noatime 0 1 > /dev/ufs/umgah0var /var ufs rw,async,noatime 0 2 > /dev/ufs/umgah0usr /usr ufs rw,async,noatime 0 2 > > > There's a lot more here to describe from moving system to newly created > partitions to inserting and rebuilding our first disk to gmirror. All this > issues are described in handbook or other articles found on the net. > > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:12:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535131065686 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:12:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from po-out-1718.google.com (po-out-1718.google.com [72.14.252.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230BF8FC1C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by po-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id y22so11884150pof.3 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=L9yzKmQ577hx9smAhB0nc/XMrFQv/HnMY1qlJHubbwg=; b=bu/BXzDvRzVWdxKlfiXbjm0lycPXoyRLIUrZsaME1jABJGJutJqjlQosr/eZ2NqClD h9MLDTl/dBTPTFP6Nao7fHSUJ+g4ZBl21w591WeczxBNwFA8Pv5nQasR1YR5XtDRo33T cTMYQ2+L+NjEKJtQNLSxGnr2U4p/8MEOYe9JU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bjH5Hh5t3w7pvTjBav0te2z5UtOj7KCjd2BvRqEK70ZLkXJVvV/Xz0kP+bNcQb8CL/ 1hmCEh1QQjJsDSA02L5do4bmAr5TLhINJmRa8fS9m9WBTIidGgXDWB+Cv/aLYCSoOAEH +6/Wr5pMQJQqpzWb0kJJi44fG9q7vh2dOC0X4= Received: by 10.141.76.21 with SMTP id d21mr1044201rvl.242.1225822362753; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.210.2 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:12:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:12:42 +0200 From: "Roey Dror" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1225808192.3407.16.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <1225811203.3802.4.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Subject: Re: GDM login without using a password X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:12:43 -0000 > > Is there any other pam module which can supply a passwordless login? > maybe pam_guest? > I figured it out. Adding this line: auth sufficient pam_guest.so guests=username nopass to /etc/pam.d/gdm did the trick. -- Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:13:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888C2106568F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592DF8FC18 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:13:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333465C5A; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 08:16:25 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:13:34 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julien Cigar References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:13:36 -0000 Julien Cigar wrote: > I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've > found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor > (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) > > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >> Hi, >> >> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) and >> the installation >> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >> >> I see >> >> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config >> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config >> >> and so on. >> >> Any clues? >> >> -- >> Christoph Kukulies >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" ############ Aloha, I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf #boot/loader.conf hw.ata.ata-dma=0 hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 This makes the HD and CD to work for me after the install. The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I have used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:19:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46CE41065680 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:19:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97C438FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37880 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 18:19:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=CHoZcURJMp76/bKb0CGj96WswlQUrUXhrHI54KAfTuxYS9e/2LAfW7FZOs25h2ZGvmd/iHWnclG9+LPmd/kYpQxUHgdGMOOuhYW1K3GGQFZEIcezS0TGFa5exBRnEbwbppky9ea+u7sUAVBo+kAvAY/rUmdJe48nMd/wqAWlDwc=; X-YMail-OSG: Mg9ZhqsVM1m0XKo8f_.2O2nyVwMg5GqCCUl6ay5K2Wfohm25Jqzv_EQ8mZQ6gWKIB4dSZINXhkSgnMvMPFtQ93QR4x_F5X7G5AWrameUbmtpW2zjnO6.oB7MnWKr78i7.wKiHwnXINLLsUvJrmbL_cViDeoZj4LOS5_RKFHcYzRB2O5Bh8Qd_1jixbkmkvWMOw-- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:19:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:19:44 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports-bugs@freebsd.org, gnome@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <974071.37488.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: yelp install error on amd64 running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:19:46 -0000 Dear freebsd people, who is able to help me with this problem I have on my machine (a amd64 system running freebsd 6.3). I can't install yelp and am at a dead end. The error message I get is (from the script output which I captured in a file): Script started on Tue Nov 4 19:00:35 2008 # pwd /usr/ports/x11/yelp # make install clean yelp is using firefox for gecko support, but you can change that by defining WITH_GECKO to the following values: firefox xulrunner => yelp-2.22.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2. => Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/ftp.gnome.org/sources/yelp/2.22/. yelp-2.22.1.tar.bz2 0% of 972 kB 0 Bpsyelp-2.22.1.tar.bz2 73% of 972 kB 1113 kBpsyelp-2.22.1.tar.bz2 100% of 972 kB 1211 kBps ===> Extracting for yelp-2.22.1_1 => MD5 Checksum OK for gnome2/yelp-2.22.1.tar.bz2. => SHA256 Checksum OK for gnome2/yelp-2.22.1.tar.bz2. ===> Patching for yelp-2.22.1_1 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for yelp-2.22.1_1 ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/ice.pc - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/intltool-extract - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-mime-data-2.0.pc - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on executable: pkg-config - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on file: /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig/gnome-doc-utils.pc - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: dbus-glib-1.2 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: rarian.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: intl - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: esd.2 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: atk-1.0.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gailutil.18 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gconf-2.4 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: glib-2.0.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gnomevfs-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gtk-x11-2.0.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: art_lgpl_2.5 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: bonobo-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: bonoboui-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: glade-2.0.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gnome-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gnomecanvas-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: gnomeui-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: IDL-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: xml2.5 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: xslt.2 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: ORBit-2.0 - found ===> yelp-2.22.1_1 depends on shared library: pango-1.0.0 - found ===> Configuring for yelp-2.22.1_1 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether gmake sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for intltool >= 0.35.0... 0.35.0 found checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl checking for XML::Parser... ok checking for iconv... /usr/local/bin/iconv checking for msgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for msgmerge... /usr/local/bin/msgmerge checking for xgettext... /usr/local/bin/xgettext checking for gconftool-2... /usr/local/bin/gconftool-2 Using config source xml:merged:/usr/local/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults for schema installation Using $(sysconfdir)/gconf/schemas as install directory for schema files checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for gcc... cc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking for style of include used by gmake... GNU checking dependency style of cc... gcc3 checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether c++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of c++... gcc3 checking for gcc... (cached) cc checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes checking whether cc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking for cc option to accept ANSI C... (cached) none needed checking dependency style of cc... (cached) gcc3 checking for strerror in -lcposix... no checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking build system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd6.3 checking host system type... amd64-portbld-freebsd6.3 checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /usr/bin/sed checking for ld used by cc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... c++ -E checking for g77... no checking for f77... f77 checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... yes checking whether f77 accepts -g... yes checking the maximum length of command line arguments... (cached) 262144 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from cc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc static flag -static works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the cc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.3 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes configure: creating libtool appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking for ld used by c++... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking for c++ option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if c++ PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if c++ static flag -static works... yes checking if c++ supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the c++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.3 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate appending configuration tag "F77" to libtool checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for f77 option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if f77 PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if f77 static flag -static works... yes checking if f77 supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the f77 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd6.3 ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config checking pkg-config is at least version 0.7... yes checking for GLIB - version >= 2.0.0... yes (version 2.16.5) checking whether gcc understands -Wno-sign-compare... yes checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking what warning flags to pass to the C++ compiler... -Wall -Wno-unused checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C++ compiler... checking locale.h usability... yes checking locale.h presence... yes checking for locale.h... yes checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes checking libintl.h usability... yes checking libintl.h presence... yes checking for libintl.h... yes checking for ngettext in libc... no checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... yes checking for ngettext in -lintl... yes checking for dgettext in -lintl... yes checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... yes checking for msgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for dcgettext... yes checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for xgettext... /usr/local/bin/xgettext checking for YELP... yes checking for gsed... /usr/bin/sed checking for X... libraries /usr/local/lib, headers /usr/local/include checking for gethostbyname... yes checking for connect... yes checking for remove... yes checking for shmat... yes checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes checking for YELP_SEARCH... no checking for gawk... (cached) gawk checking which gecko to use... firefox checking for compiler -fshort-wchar option... yes checking whether to enable C++ RTTI... no checking whether we have a gtk 2 gecko build... yes checking whether we have a gecko debug build... no checking for gecko version... 1.8.1 checking for MOZILLA_COMPONENT... yes checking for gzopen in -lz... yes checking for lzmadec_open in -llzmadec... yes checking for bzread in -lbz2... no checking for BZ2_bzread in -lbz2... yes configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating src/Makefile config.status: creating stylesheets/Makefile config.status: creating stylesheets/db2html.xsl config.status: creating stylesheets/db-title.xsl config.status: creating data/Makefile config.status: creating data/icons/Makefile config.status: creating data/ui/Makefile config.status: creating po/Makefile.in config.status: creating yelp.desktop.in config.status: creating config.h config.status: executing intltool commands config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status: executing default-1 commands config.status: executing po/stamp-it commands yelp-2.22.1: prefix: /usr/local source code location: . compiler: cc Debug enabled: no Search backend: auto - basic Mozilla version: firefox ===> Building for yelp-2.22.1_1 gmake all-recursive gmake[1]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/yelp/work/yelp-2.22.1' Making all in src gmake[2]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/yelp/work/yelp-2.22.1/src' gmake all-am gmake[3]: Entering directory `/usr/ports/x11/yelp/work/yelp-2.22.1/src' if c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -I/usr/local/include/firefox -I/usr/local/include/firefox/xpcom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -fno-rtti -fshort-wchar -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-Yelper.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-Yelper.Tpo" -c -o yelp-Yelper.o `test -f 'Yelper.cpp' || echo './'`Yelper.cpp; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-Yelper.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-Yelper.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-Yelper.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-base.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-base.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-base.o `test -f 'yelp-base.c' || echo './'`yelp-base.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-base.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-base.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-base.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-bookmarks.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-bookmarks.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-bookmarks.o `test -f 'yelp-bookmarks.c' || echo './'`yelp-bookmarks.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-bookmarks.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-bookmarks.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-bookmarks.Tpo"; exit 1; fi yelp-bookmarks.c: In function `yelp_bookmarks_add': yelp-bookmarks.c:310: warning: null format string if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-debug.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-debug.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-debug.o `test -f 'yelp-debug.c' || echo './'`yelp-debug.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-debug.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-debug.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-debug.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-error.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-error.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-error.o `test -f 'yelp-error.c' || echo './'`yelp-error.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-error.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-error.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-error.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -I/usr/local/include/firefox -I/usr/local/include/firefox/xpcom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -fno-rtti -fshort-wchar -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.o `test -f 'yelp-gecko-utils.cpp' || echo './'`yelp-gecko-utils.cpp; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -I/usr/local/include/firefox -I/usr/local/include/firefox/xpcom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -fno-rtti -fshort-wchar -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-html.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-html.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-html.o `test -f 'yelp-html.cpp' || echo './'`yelp-html.cpp; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-html.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-html.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-html.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-io-channel.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-io-channel.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-io-channel.o `test -f 'yelp-io-channel.c' || echo './'`yelp-io-channel.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-io-channel.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-io-channel.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-io-channel.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-settings.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-settings.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-settings.o `test -f 'yelp-settings.c' || echo './'`yelp-settings.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-settings.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-settings.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-settings.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-utils.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-utils.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-utils.o `test -f 'yelp-utils.c' || echo './'`yelp-utils.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-utils.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-utils.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-utils.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-window.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-window.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-window.o `test -f 'yelp-window.c' || echo './'`yelp-window.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-window.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-window.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-window.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-marshal.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-marshal.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-marshal.o `test -f 'yelp-marshal.c' || echo './'`yelp-marshal.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-marshal.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-marshal.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-marshal.Tpo"; exit 1; fi yelp-marshal.c:58: warning: no previous prototype for 'yelp_marshal_VOID__POINTER_BOOLEAN' yelp-marshal.c:99: warning: no previous prototype for 'yelp_marshal_VOID__STRING_INT' yelp-marshal.c:138: warning: no previous prototype for 'yelp_marshal_BOOLEAN__POINTER_BOOLEAN' if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-main.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-main.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-main.o `test -f 'yelp-main.c' || echo './'`yelp-main.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-main.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-main.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-main.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 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-DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-page.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-page.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-page.o `test -f 'yelp-page.c' || echo './'`yelp-page.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-page.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-page.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-page.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-transform.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-transform.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-transform.o `test -f 'yelp-transform.c' || echo './'`yelp-transform.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-transform.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-transform.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-transform.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -I/usr/local/include/firefox -I/usr/local/include/firefox/xpcom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -fno-rtti -fshort-wchar -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor 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-I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-document.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-document.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-document.o `test -f 'yelp-document.c' || echo './'`yelp-document.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-document.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-document.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-document.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" 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-I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-toc.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-toc.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-toc.o `test -f 'yelp-toc.c' || echo './'`yelp-toc.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-toc.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-toc.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-toc.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx 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-I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-docbook.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-docbook.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-docbook.o `test -f 'yelp-docbook.c' || echo './'`yelp-docbook.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-docbook.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-docbook.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-docbook.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-db-print.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-db-print.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-db-print.o `test -f 'yelp-db-print.c' || echo './'`yelp-db-print.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-db-print.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-db-print.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-db-print.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-man-parser.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-man-parser.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-man-parser.o `test -f 'yelp-man-parser.c' || echo './'`yelp-man-parser.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-man-parser.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-man-parser.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-man-parser.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-man.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-man.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-man.o `test -f 'yelp-man.c' || echo './'`yelp-man.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-man.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-man.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-man.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-info.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-info.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-info.o `test -f 'yelp-info.c' || echo './'`yelp-info.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-info.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-info.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-info.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-info-parser.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-info-parser.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-info-parser.o `test -f 'yelp-info-parser.c' || echo './'`yelp-info-parser.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-info-parser.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-info-parser.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-info-parser.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-gtkentryaction.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-gtkentryaction.Tpo" -c -o yelp-gtkentryaction.o `test -f 'gtkentryaction.c' || echo './'`gtkentryaction.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-gtkentryaction.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-gtkentryaction.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-gtkentryaction.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-search.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-search.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-search.o `test -f 'yelp-search.c' || echo './'`yelp-search.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-search.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-search.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-search.Tpo"; exit 1; fi if cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I.. -I../src -I/usr/local/include/firefox/. -I/usr/local/include/firefox/commandhandler -I/usr/local/include/firefox/content -I/usr/local/include/firefox/docshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/dom -I/usr/local/include/firefox/fastfind -I/usr/local/include/firefox/find -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gtkembedmoz -I/usr/local/include/firefox/gfx -I/usr/local/include/firefox/layout -I/usr/local/include/firefox/necko -I/usr/local/include/firefox/pref -I/usr/local/include/firefox/string -I/usr/local/include/firefox/uriloader -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webbrwsr -I/usr/local/include/firefox/webshell -I/usr/local/include/firefox/widget -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Yelp\" -DPREFIX=\""/usr/local"\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\""/usr/local/etc"\" -DDATADIR=\""/usr/local/share"\" -DLIBDIR=\""/usr/local/lib"\" -DIMAGEDIR=\""/usr/local/share/images/yelp"\" -DSERVERDIR=\"/usr/local/libexec\" -DBINDIR=\""/usr/local/bin"\" -DSHAREDIR=\""/usr/local/share/yelp"\" -DMOZILLA_HOME=\""/usr/local/lib/firefox\"" -DGDU_ICON_PATH=\"/usr/local/share/gnome-doc-utils/icons\" -I/usr/local/include -DORBIT2=1 -D_REENTRANT -D_THREAD_SAFE -I/usr/local/include/gconf/2 -I/usr/local/include/orbit-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/gtk-unix-print-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include/freetype2 -I/usr/local/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/usr/local/include/libglade-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libxml2 -I/usr/local/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libart-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gnome-keyring-1 -I/usr/local/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/local/include/gail-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/startup-notification-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/local/include/rarian -Wall -Wno-uninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith -Wno-sign-compare -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -MT yelp-yelp-search-parser.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/yelp-yelp-search-parser.Tpo" -c -o yelp-yelp-search-parser.o `test -f 'yelp-search-parser.c' || echo './'`yelp-search-parser.c; \ then mv -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-search-parser.Tpo" ".deps/yelp-yelp-search-parser.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/yelp-yelp-search-parser.Tpo"; exit 1; fi /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link c++ -fno-rtti -fshort-wchar -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -L/usr/local/lib -o yelp -R/usr/local/lib/firefox yelp-Yelper.o yelp-yelp-base.o yelp-yelp-bookmarks.o yelp-yelp-debug.o yelp-yelp-error.o yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.o yelp-yelp-html.o yelp-yelp-io-channel.o yelp-yelp-settings.o yelp-yelp-utils.o yelp-yelp-window.o yelp-yelp-marshal.o yelp-yelp-main.o yelp-yelp-print.o yelp-yelp-page.o yelp-yelp-transform.o yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o yelp-yelp-document.o yelp-yelp-toc.o yelp-yelp-docbook.o yelp-yelp-db-print.o yelp-yelp-man-parser.o yelp-yelp-man.o yelp-yelp-info.o yelp-yelp-info-parser.o yelp-gtkentryaction.o yelp-yelp-search.o yelp-yelp-search-parser.o -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lglade-2.0 -lgnomeui-2 -lSM -lICE -lbonoboui-2 -lgnomevfs-2 -lgnomecanvas-2 -lgnome-2 -lpopt -lbonobo-2 -lbonobo-activation -lORBit-2 -lart_lgpl_2 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lXext -lXrender -lXinerama -lXi -lXrandr -lXcursor -lXcomposite -lXdamage -lcairo -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lX11 -lXfixes -lgconf-2 -lgthread-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lexslt -lxslt -lz -lm -lgcrypt -lgpg-error -lxml2 -lstartup-notification-1 -ldbus-glib-1 -ldbus-1 -lgobject-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -liconv -lrarian -lz -lbz2 -llzmadec -lSM -lICE -L/usr/local/lib -lX11 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/lib/firefox -pthread -L/usr/local/lib/firefox -L/usr/local/lib -lgtkembedmoz -lxpcom -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 mkdir .libs c++ -fno-rtti -fshort-wchar -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Wall -Wno-unused -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -o yelp yelp-Yelper.o yelp-yelp-base.o yelp-yelp-bookmarks.o yelp-yelp-debug.o yelp-yelp-error.o yelp-yelp-gecko-utils.o yelp-yelp-html.o yelp-yelp-io-channel.o yelp-yelp-settings.o yelp-yelp-utils.o yelp-yelp-window.o yelp-yelp-marshal.o yelp-yelp-main.o yelp-yelp-print.o yelp-yelp-page.o yelp-yelp-transform.o yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o yelp-yelp-document.o yelp-yelp-toc.o yelp-yelp-docbook.o yelp-yelp-db-print.o yelp-yelp-man-parser.o yelp-yelp-man.o yelp-yelp-info.o yelp-yelp-info-parser.o yelp-gtkentryaction.o yelp-yelp-search.o yelp-yelp-search-parser.o -pthread -Wl,-rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib/firefox -pthread -L/usr/local/lib /usr/local/lib/libglade-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libgnomeui-2.so /usr/local/lib/libgio-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libgnome-keyring.so /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so /usr/local/lib/libbonoboui-2.so /usr/local/lib/libgnomecanvas-2.so /usr/local/lib/libgailutil.so /usr/local/lib/libgnome-2.so /usr/local/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so -lssl -lcrypto -lutil /usr/local/lib/libesd.so /usr/local/lib/libaudiofile.so /usr/local/lib/libpopt.so /usr/local/lib/libbonobo-2.so /usr/local/lib/libbonobo-activation.so /usr/local/lib/libORBitCosNaming-2.so /usr/local/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so /usr/local/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libatk-1.0.so /usr/local/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so /usr/local/lib/libXinerama.so /usr/local/lib/libXi.so /usr/local/lib/libXrandr.so /usr/local/lib/libXcursor.so /usr/local/lib/libXcomposite.so /usr/local/lib/libXext.so /usr/local/lib/libXdamage.so /usr/local/lib/libcairo.so /usr/local/lib/libglitz.so -lpng /usr/local/lib/libxcb-render-util.so /usr/local/lib/libxcb-render.so /usr/local/lib/libxcb.so /usr/local/lib/libpthread-stubs.so /usr/local/lib/libXrender.so /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so /usr/local/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so /usr/local/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/local/lib/libfontconfig.so /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so /usr/local/lib/libexpat.so /usr/local/lib/libXfixes.so /usr/local/lib/libgconf-2.so /usr/local/lib/libORBit-2.so /usr/local/lib/libgthread-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libexslt.so /usr/local/lib/libxslt.so /usr/local/lib/libgcrypt.so /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so -lm /usr/local/lib/libstartup-notification-1.so /usr/local/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so -pthread /usr/local/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so -licui18n /usr/local/lib/libintl.so /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so /usr/local/lib/librarian.so -lz -lbz2 /usr/local/lib/liblzmadec.so /usr/local/lib/libSM.so /usr/local/lib/libICE.so /usr/local/lib/libX11.so /usr/local/lib/libXau.so /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so -lrpcsvc -L/usr/local/lib/firefox -lgtkembedmoz -lxpcom -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib/firefox yelp-Yelper.o(.text+0x26d): In function `Yelper::Find(char const*)': : undefined reference to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0x631): In function `PrintListener::SetPrintSettings(_YelpPrintInfo*, int, nsIPrintSettings*)': : undefined reference to `NS_StringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0x6f4): In function `PrintListener::SetPrintSettings(_YelpPrintInfo*, int, nsIPrintSettings*)': : undefined reference to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0x8fd): In function `PrintListener::SetPrintSettings(_YelpPrintInfo*, int, nsIPrintSettings*)': : undefined reference to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0x9cf): In function `PrintListener::SetPrintSettings(_YelpPrintInfo*, int, nsIPrintSettings*)': : undefined reference to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0xa1e): In function `PrintListener::SetPrintSettings(_YelpPrintInfo*, int, nsIPrintSettings*)': : undefined reference to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0xa6d): In function `PrintListener::SetPrintSettings(_YelpPrintInfo*, int, nsIPrintSettings*)': : undefined reference to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' yelp-yelp-gecko-services.o(.text+0xabc): more undefined references to `NS_CStringContainerInit2' follow /usr/local/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so: undefined reference to `NS_InitXPCOM3' gmake[3]: *** [yelp] Error 1 gmake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/yelp/work/yelp-2.22.1/src' gmake[2]: *** [all] Error 2 gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/yelp/work/yelp-2.22.1/src' gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/ports/x11/yelp/work/yelp-2.22.1' gmake: *** [all] Error 2 *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/yelp. # exit Script done on Tue Nov 4 19:02:44 2008 Hope someone can help me. Is it advicable to report this bug to the upstream developers themselves eg should I contact the Gnome developers about this or will the port maintainer take care of that? Thanks Dino From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:27:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1426106568C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:27:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2CB8FC1D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:27:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6454858; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:27:22 +0100 Message-ID: <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:27:21 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Plant References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> In-Reply-To: <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:27:37 -0000 Hi Al, thanks for pointing me to safe mode install. That I will probably try tomorrow. The day ended up in havoc: I tried to boot a floppy to do an ASUS BIOS upgrade and somehow messed with the power cable. A big flash occurred originating from the power supply. I opened the power supply, found a blown fuse, ran to the electronics store, bought a new fuse (+ one in reserve), inserted the fuse, tried the power supply, with connections off and a firework, prematurely - your presidential elections aren't finished yet - , developed in front of my face. Will continue tomorrow, when America has a new president. -- Christoph Al Plant schrieb: > Julien Cigar wrote: >> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor >> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >> >> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >>> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) >>> and the installation >>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>> >>> I see >>> >>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for >>> xpt_config >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for >>> xpt_config >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for >>> xpt_config >>> >>> and so on. >>> >>> Any clues? >>> >>> -- >>> Christoph Kukulies >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ############ > > Aloha, > > I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. > > If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf > > #boot/loader.conf > hw.ata.ata-dma=0 > hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 > > This makes the HD and CD to work for me after the install. > > The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I have > used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. > > ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 > + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + > + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + > < email: noc@hdk5.net > > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:29:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DD5106567F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558EC8FC26 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b3Ch1a0021HpZEsA46VYPU; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:29:32 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id b6VX1a00T2P6wsM8a6VXn9; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:29:32 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qww_42MyOAgA:10 a=QrKowp_NS8wA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=qXn8vqQhV3fQnEews24A:9 a=ERRjNRYhh0bamlZS2XwA:7 a=Ip-xrTQoREOWobeMAEt1TfwmiFgA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 97AE4C9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:29:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:29:31 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Al Plant Message-ID: <20081104182931.GA54773@icarus.home.lan> References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Christoph Kukulies , Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:29:33 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:13:34AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Julien Cigar wrote: >> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor >> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >> >> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >>> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) >>> and the installation >>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>> >>> I see >>> >>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config >>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config >>> >>> and so on. >>> >>> Any clues? >>> >>> -- >>> Christoph Kukulies >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > ############ > > Aloha, > > I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. > > If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf > > #boot/loader.conf > hw.ata.ata-dma=0 > hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 There is no hw.ata.ata-dma tunable. I think you mean hw.ata.ata_dma (note: underscore, not hyphen). If you really are using hw.ata.ata-dma, it does nothing. :-) Also folks, please remember that "ATA DMA" is for hard disks, and "ATAPI DMA" is for ATAPI devices (CD/DVD drives). Error messages from xpt_* functions are from by the ATAPI-to-CAM emulation layer (think: SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices), but are likely signs of underlying compatibility problems between the CD/DVD drive and FreeBSD, and not the fault of atapicam(4). I'm not sure if there's a loader hint to disable xpt. > The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I have > used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. The "READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR" often indicates that the CD/DVD drive does not support a specific read operation mode; some CD/DVD manufacturers don't implement this command for various reasons. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:32:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4D55106567D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779118FC33 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696CDAFC1C6; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:32:32 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dino_vliet@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:32:30 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <974071.37488.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <974071.37488.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811041932.31274.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: yelp install error on amd64 running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:32:33 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008 19:19:44 Dino Vliet wrote: > Dear freebsd people, > who is able to help me with this problem I have on my machine (a amd64 > system running freebsd 6.3). What did you do back in April, when you had the exact same problem? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:35:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9C61065675 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB4E8FC22 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:35:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F404616C009A; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:35:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA4IZ3rj001731; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:35:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:35:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: The Ghost Message-Id: <20081104193503.8d0e639b.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:35:06 -0000 On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:17:35 +0300, The Ghost wrote: > Hello, > > > I migrated to freensd-7.0-release and noticed that I can't switch > to the virtual consoles by pressing Alt+Fx once I've started X ! > I guess the key combination has changed in the nre version of > Xorg implemented in FreeBSD 7.0, so I took a look at the online > handbook, but I haven't found anything about the new way to switch > to the virtual consoles... Could anyone please point me at what do I miss?.. Well, this hasn't something to do with FreeBSD 7. From my own experience, virtual console switching has always been the same since 4.0 with XFree86. When you're inside X, you need to add the Control key to the key combination, e. g. Ctrl-Alt-PF1. So you leave X (on its VT, usually PF9, see /etc/ttys) and get to the 1st virtual console. As long as you're in text mode, you can switch around with Alt+PF1 ... Alt+PF9 as you mentioned correctly. The functions of Alt+PF1 ... Alt+PF12 inside X depends on the window manager / desktop environment you're running, it can, for example, be used to switch virtual desktops. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:39:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907BF106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCF98FC1F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C68016C01C7; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:39:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA4IdjWU001740; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:39:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:39:45 +0100 From: Polytropon To: joeb@a1poweruser.com Message-Id: <20081104193945.9c599645.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Steven Susbauer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:39:47 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:45:28 +0800, "joeb" wrote: > How do I get back to the xorg/xfce desktop running in the virtual console I > left from? You could try to press the Pause / SysRq key as many times as needed until you're on your X screen again. Have a look into /etc/ttys where the correct terminal should be specified, e. g. ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure ^^ So X will be on ttyv8 which is number 9 (Alt+PF9). May I ask how you initiate your X (XFCE) session? This could give a hint why console switching doesn't work as intended. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:45:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DCC1065679 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D12E8FC20 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3157978rvf.43 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZjW+ZCpUfwGw0FNR/9JLCLBlZ0NsgjYZlTY9JS99ddg=; b=G+FFbtli82XymmXey1+vKdKPTIF9NmNSPvrVaaK5bsaA3kNrClUQPp2HKZ1fFUHQSi QQFrJH62+0yO5YU9dGMR1PHPI2xIFPfCsvbUqH1ITwI/xzkb6+I0kBo3Q40H86ho0cIQ 4wJ24DBKh7V4AE+Yxgo0OCiZGEWVEBxmP9p2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=nRtu+VltO84DllzAkiJeJtPWKb5NhT4wAFYNQhcdm+GqXFb++acS7dPJM965ACY548 e2t7BVngS5G3l850NDHcUq4or/06kas7t3LbTieAKGtEJWUdWFZnZbahFuDEGNBBzoJd g9/RBcqaUJjJ1lusJxk5LpNA6z7pKZl0Ulipc= Received: by 10.140.204.7 with SMTP id b7mr1075880rvg.175.1225824349148; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:45:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:45:49 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Volodymyr Kostyrko" In-Reply-To: <25ae98a90811041035s57f84718tf1ea3c8ffd9c6fa4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> <48FE6C64.7060606@telus.net> <25ae98a90811041035s57f84718tf1ea3c8ffd9c6fa4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:45:49 -0000 2008/11/4 Volodymyr Kostyrko > 2008/11/4 Gabriel Lavoie : > > When building this setup I got one big problem. If the root filesystem > (/) > > was on a gjournal provider, an unclean shutdown when data was being > written > > on the disk rendered the system completely unbootable. I got this > message: > > > > GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm launched (2/2) > > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3672855181: mirror/gma contains data. > > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3672855181: mirror/gma contains journal. > > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3868799910: mirror/gmd contains data. > > > > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3868799910: mirror/gmd contains journal. > > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal mirror/gmd consistent. > > Just one thing - you have two separate journaled partitions, one > journal per one partition. Yes, this is the test setup I made with one journal for / and one journal for /usr. Only an unclean journal on / rendered the journal unbootable. An unclean journal on /usr gave me no problem. If I put the journal on the slice level, with the root filesystem over the journal. Resetting the system while writing data on any filesystem causes the problem as the journal is shared to the root filesystem too. > > > > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm.journal > > > > Manual root filesystem specification: > > : Mount using filesystem > > > > eg. ufs:da0s1a > > ? List valid disk boot devices > > Abort manual input > > > > > > mountroot> ? > > > > List of GEOM managed disk devices: > > > > mirror/gmd.journal mirror/gmd mirror/gmc mirror/gma mirror/gm > ad10s1c > > ad10s1b ad8s1c ad8s1b ad10s2 ad10s1 ad8s1 ad10 ad8 acd0 > > > > As you can see, in the proposed list of disk devices devices to boot on, > > "mirror/gm.journala" is absent. As I and Ivan Voras, that I contacted > about > > this problem, found, the GEOM_JOURNAL thread that is supposed to mark the > > journal consistent takes too much time to do it with the root > filesystem's > > provider and the kernel try to mount a device that doesn't yet exist. A > bug > > report has been opened about this problem. For my final setup I decided > to > > put the root filesystem on a separate mirrorred slice of 1GB. Since this > > slice isn't often written on, not many rebuilds should occur in case of > > power failure. And I made my "power failure" test by hitting the reset > > button while writing data on this filesystem and the rebuild on 1GB > doesn't > > takes too much time (at most 20-30 seconds). > > Good to hear it, i've fallen for that too, but the machine isn't > powercycled at all and runs on guaranteed power. I had the similar > problems with described setup on virtual test machine too, yet > entering anything at mountroot> prompt gave gjournal a chance to keep > up and needed partition comes up eventually... I didn't reported that, > thought it was a virtual machine issue. > Same thing here, I had a backup installation on another slice and when I gave this one on the prompt, as soon as I hit Enter, GEOM_JOURNAL was marking the journal consistent. I'm happy to hear that I'm not the only one that had this problem. As for my setup. I put / on its own 1GB mirrored slice with auto-synchronization and soft-updates and I put the other filesystems (/home /usr /var /tmp) on a second fully mirrored/journalised slice (with the journal at the slice level), with auto-synchronization on power failure turned off and "async" mount option. As for the bug report, I consider this is an easily reproductible bug and I hope it will be solved soon! :) > > > Now I have the question. Why the "load" algorith wasn't recommended? Is > it > > fixed in 7.0-RELEASE-p5? > > Nope... > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113885 > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. > Gabriel -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:46:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67DE106568D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765DF8FC14 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:46:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1D750F30; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:46:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA4IkfOa001805; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:46:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:46:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: joeb@a1poweruser.com Message-Id: <20081104194641.fd0b5c11.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20081104114841.GA1339@darklight.homeunix.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Yuri Pankov , Steven Susbauer , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: virtual consoles on freebsd-7.0-release X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:46:46 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:45:12 +0800, "joeb" wrote: > I logon from F2 as root and then startx. As root? No good idea. You should run from a !root user account. > I believe F9 only works if you use the xorg logon session control. No, it works when you startx from after a "normal" login, too. I do know that, it's my setting at the moment. :-) So if you would create a normal user account and add these files: 1. ~/.xsession #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc 2. ~/.xinitc #!/bin/sh exec xfwm Give them +x permissions. The first file allows you to inherit your settings from the C shell (~/.cshrc) into your X session when started from XDM or another display manager. After login, you can use the % startx command to run your XFCE session. But in fact, running as root can't be the reason why console switching doesn't seem to work correctly, I believe... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 18:57:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD0410656E4 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1668FC29 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2730270fgb.35 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:57:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=+CxOWpaBW+WM2OU8/qj8Ajfq8iM5g3+51Jj9OFROizM=; b=MSCtR7ZpxJHssfK9gdpn2OV6wJFP7/yyVSVCIh9ZvcEgoLa5T3BgY6FsGBWCZ6VHJ5 JChKShrubBjbA8qa9u8LEd77wuTa3HX8RMNOSlHggy+as/UuhhJvNT2aDbrsmJdfLRUl 7sqWmT4ZeTSipzyXSQzvNuaPegR34dr4XdS/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=pcu8i31EO2szRUikW+EYfoJQ/Uufx9/dNGyvp6cm9TElqQM9kIjWwi63lT0AULxo46 zBoHEn+I7EwZcRxw+MBiNxzL9e48n6jXtuwMFMvU9OTBxlrorW2YdeIxDgc98G6PgCf7 jhoBezght4xclB7sfzKTDpK9wwYt+zwfGrgFY= Received: by 10.181.145.7 with SMTP id x7mr436437bkn.159.1225825022989; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.219.10 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:57:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:57:02 +0100 From: "Popof Popof" Sender: popofnewslists@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 523ac03f404cf872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:57:05 -0000 Hi, I recently tried to update my FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 7.0. I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always booting on the 6.0 kernel. The problem is that I have an error during boot process: mount option is unknown > mount: /dev/ad0s2a : Invalid argument > Mounting root filesystem rw failed, startup aborted > Boot interrupted Its seems that tools have correctly upgraded (man mount let me see that I use the FreeBSD 7 version of mount) but not the kernel. Does someone has an idea to allow me to use my filesystem in read write mode ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 19:02:35 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA7310656B3 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F298FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:02:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.kworr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1347189nfh.33 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:02:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UOisUqZ/nU3w8RGzEV9ISWPV2lhwcIvjmrUMwpkkcdc=; b=YVuURdP25Qd0oRXCTp0sv2mtFODKxS5FGQ7OQBvFa66BlmDbfUTUwVaNJ28+D1uMjG qjnqco+oASpsDSgZMOvDEM53EPvnUxVFjSEH7pLEfWZ3n9LFsSRPks6Gt5AVo04aA9VH OphYdWaVpf4jAG9UgeJlxtGDJ5NU4sA/Sk3Wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=uLBPQMmuxyWgfF+GEgQ1bQUSOYgyFAiqSfiXLV7irShpfD1V75Cvg5zMxlloz2hPEu DCYqM0mBzPJjvSFH8L2pEzI2dQiJ912pidBqkXWAkLZyGF+ONBVrsL2BCXKMzMBaI3Jd /vYLx6BlJ2C5pYogBQq4/g9KXopuAvr3gJ4P8= Received: by 10.210.58.13 with SMTP id g13mr2004013eba.183.1225823708731; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:35:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.12.4 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 10:35:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <25ae98a90811041035s57f84718tf1ea3c8ffd9c6fa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:35:08 +0200 From: "Volodymyr Kostyrko" To: "Gabriel Lavoie" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48FD6665.5000102@telus.net> <48FD6803.7080802@shopzeus.com> <48FE6C64.7060606@telus.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gjournal: journaled slices vs. journaled partitions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:02:35 -0000 2008/11/4 Gabriel Lavoie : > When building this setup I got one big problem. If the root filesystem (/) > was on a gjournal provider, an unclean shutdown when data was being written > on the disk rendered the system completely unbootable. I got this message: > > GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm launched (2/2) > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3672855181: mirror/gma contains data. > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3672855181: mirror/gma contains journal. > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3868799910: mirror/gmd contains data. > > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal 3868799910: mirror/gmd contains journal. > GEOM_JOURNAL: Journal mirror/gmd consistent. Just one thing - you have two separate journaled partitions, one journal per one partition. > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm.journal > > Manual root filesystem specification: > : Mount using filesystem > > eg. ufs:da0s1a > ? List valid disk boot devices > Abort manual input > > > mountroot> ? > > List of GEOM managed disk devices: > > mirror/gmd.journal mirror/gmd mirror/gmc mirror/gma mirror/gm ad10s1c > ad10s1b ad8s1c ad8s1b ad10s2 ad10s1 ad8s1 ad10 ad8 acd0 > > As you can see, in the proposed list of disk devices devices to boot on, > "mirror/gm.journala" is absent. As I and Ivan Voras, that I contacted about > this problem, found, the GEOM_JOURNAL thread that is supposed to mark the > journal consistent takes too much time to do it with the root filesystem's > provider and the kernel try to mount a device that doesn't yet exist. A bug > report has been opened about this problem. For my final setup I decided to > put the root filesystem on a separate mirrorred slice of 1GB. Since this > slice isn't often written on, not many rebuilds should occur in case of > power failure. And I made my "power failure" test by hitting the reset > button while writing data on this filesystem and the rebuild on 1GB doesn't > takes too much time (at most 20-30 seconds). Good to hear it, i've fallen for that too, but the machine isn't powercycled at all and runs on guaranteed power. I had the similar problems with described setup on virtual test machine too, yet entering anything at mountroot> prompt gave gjournal a chance to keep up and needed partition comes up eventually... I didn't reported that, thought it was a virtual machine issue. > Now I have the question. Why the "load" algorith wasn't recommended? Is it > fixed in 7.0-RELEASE-p5? Nope... http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113885 -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 19:12:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86391065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:12:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198C18FC24 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A5235D89; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:12:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:13:54 +0100 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:12:43 -0000 How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? This won't work: $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - because tail doesn't start at the right location. Using a blocksize (-b) with tail may also not be right, because the captured packets are not the same size. This seems to work: $ tcpdump -n -s 116 -i pflog0 but now, both tcpdump and pflogd are competing for the same interface pflog0. I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be EITHER logged by pflogd XOR displayed by tcpdump. Is that so? If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears on the pflog0 interface? How? Thanks -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 19:21:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13DF106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669408FC0A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:21:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA4JKm7R033879; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:20:50 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.7.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk mA4JKm7R033879 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1225826450; bh=TZhlPmnTqr9ebL QQxfa7wstsIG9a2sF47aIr/oo/yrs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version: To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type: Date:From:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Mes sage-ID:=20<4910A08A.6050204@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Tue,=2 004=20Nov=202008=2019:20:42=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20|Organization:=20Infracaninophile|User -Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.17=20(X11/20080929)|MIME-Version:=201 .0|To:=20cpghost=20|CC:=20freebsd-questions@fre ebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Watching=20/var/log/pflog=20grow|Referenc es:=20<20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws>|In-Reply-To:=20<200 81104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6| Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A= 20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"--- ---------enigD785781B1BF03AF468BB6783"; b=cjWRs/5Kts/MBb/rAg6nUowUH BEsZ3W39XmbZ+stOmduW9pFHiF0tiDBH2gyqgOml3YctT4N/5+uBUdGObTVIKW+Gu0y fQsYqGa45PouoAT8OtKujHC7RhDTjyge1ay9L7dr9jmgy32nfBhFgsx6udS/r8n95y5 soG1vI/SwpZE= Message-ID: <4910A08A.6050204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:20:42 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080929) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cpghost References: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> In-Reply-To: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD785781B1BF03AF468BB6783" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:20:50 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8567/Tue Nov 4 14:24:07 2008 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:21:12 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD785781B1BF03AF468BB6783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cpghost wrote: > How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? >=20 > This won't work: > $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - > because tail doesn't start at the right location. >=20 > Using a blocksize (-b) with tail may also not be right, > because the captured packets are not the same size. >=20 > This seems to work: > $ tcpdump -n -s 116 -i pflog0 > but now, both tcpdump and pflogd are competing for the same > interface pflog0. >=20 > I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be > EITHER logged by pflogd > XOR displayed by tcpdump. > Is that so? >=20 > If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets > would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before > pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. >=20 > Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while > still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears > on the pflog0 interface? How? >=20 Running tcpdump against the pflog0 pseudo-interface no more stops pflogd recording the traffic than running tcpdump on your network interface blocks traffic from the net. tcpdump -vv -i pflog0 really is the way to go if you want to see what your firewall is logging in real time. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigD785781B1BF03AF468BB6783 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkkQoJAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyFkQCfUvXTAiCFLA0zNPKJwCplEI0u f0cAni1mC+JL58T6hV6tPHelwAzHMgOR =epFr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD785781B1BF03AF468BB6783-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 19:48:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A680106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: from web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 470CE8FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:48:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dino_vliet@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 36342 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 19:48:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=o714Tf0FgGdOi7nrcmwnqxIyOTsqCG7rBi7Jlq5VjWVmxnSFq8AgsbWA0c/fZnAd7QPymA98N4hhL6oZkxB6vJzxBMaw988FHtF6DmuUqhbeE8j9kdU1upNSNU+1fdIOF36FGRGQwStkFI+DOgVmt2Le9dHjHCAclaZ/uxrFYKQ=; X-YMail-OSG: HLKYsioVM1nORGGA3mLh2NkvY9cXx1MfZoodmJLJDmwhEJRN0.FzxZut9mEllyG6sYO8mdbq4rk1J3i8LMfWtIFSJ.VrexWsjcXWRYrK5aQmD60nJQfduZL2fim3hWmuNzT4UMUDJAmu_bc0jd3PQatqYeqwFwaIlm8kQn1ZsbQ.S0Tdhe8433x2N8Q- Received: from [82.136.213.253] by web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:48:16 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:48:16 -0800 (PST) From: Dino Vliet To: bsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <714627.35071.qm@web51109.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: yelp install error on amd64 running freebsd 6.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dino_vliet@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:48:17 -0000 Forwarded Message: Re: yelp install error on amd64 running = freebsd 6.3 =20 =20 =20 =20 Tuesday, November 4, 2008 7:32 PM =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From:=20 =20 "Mel" =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 To: =20 =20 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, dino_vliet@yahoo.com = =20 =20 On Tuesday 04 November 2008 19:19:44 Dino Vliet wrote: > Dear freebsd people, > who is able to help me with this problem I have on my machine (a amd64 > system running freebsd 6.3). What did you do back in April, when you had the exact same problem? --=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules =A0 =A0 and never get to the software part. ************************************** I moved:-) No seriously, I never solved it,=A0 because I relocated and didn't have int= ernet access for a long time, I didn't look into it anymore. I tried to res= olve it though in april, but the resolutions given to me didn't bring me cl= oser to a solution.=A0=20 Have any thoughts? =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 19:49:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864DF1065670 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:49:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0818FC20 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:49:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2743100fgb.35 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:49:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZG+RBdzm9FuCM0+zycMl+Rhl7MlPr89nDCrluVMLgOM=; b=ffkLoV2jnO3Zi9NK6S5eTJzCPOdMcStFR1u1zJ/vWJdXwp9vSOgrFj3xl6LrQLyMW6 U2VooxoPr/gQ3wLB7M0GiDvQqEKyyr2x7M+vykPRGJYzxWzldTjj6JKj5cKzJ/KONjzd wWT55rMZnI9uCvRKE0PooQpRCyLo3J0J6NTjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jNa3TjthxCoEKX73GpDzqqDYpSOP1yN0gdT3+5qtFBPCP5SBJ1SZUR+FryGDiS23mr tWeupoHaOk1QdHbfk4x+LpkpDV0mgqdqJpwyBIlohdTaNn6s6uyk+qgWFt4uyVJ1WmE9 0OeV7PVvTPKnxorUsw72Wh269XfFzLfQCvTE8= Received: by 10.180.213.14 with SMTP id l14mr458335bkg.107.1225828181583; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.54.11 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:49:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:49:41 +0200 From: "Roey Dror" To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:49:50 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Popof Popof wrote: > I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always booting on the 6.0 > kernel. Are you using the GENERIC kernel or a custom one? -- Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 20:10:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF661065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2DAC58FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:10:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 37579 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Nov 2008 20:10:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=eO7yhqX7Qvx5tah1WDMIrcdo2a8wNRTzk/Lb+H4lEpiywtf+kI1+nJo0Xv/rvG3YwWs8C/j+WYBBGFPs0wI6m9/rjiTtf5XlWj2D/dpitu3zJE1TWgZf6VeZl9DIwiw801DGDMzBDKddadT8LkjobqYqCYTrpL4FQGsyo+i8sUQ=; X-YMail-OSG: BrBOpS4VM1mbE3qyxYmkKJuD8BSOLPqzMO4_HIWL3HWVaT0FAJYVTJHlaUQTPl6LWNnRRQJvALczSmHwMddbK9154232htS8A7MQGEeWCZdhrJp63uISYH2ZCL5gPmhRQ5JL908d8awAb1zlPZwrcVSnOg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:10:25 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:10:25 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: FreeBSD Questions , Popof Popof In-Reply-To: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <584820.36562.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:10:26 -0000 --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Popof Popof wrote: > From: Popof Popof > Subject: Unable to mount / in read - write mode > To: "FreeBSD Questions" > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 1:57 PM > Hi, > I recently tried to update my FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 7.0. > I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always > booting on the 6.0 > kernel. > The problem is that I have an error during boot process: > > mount option is unknown > > mount: /dev/ad0s2a : Invalid argument > > Mounting root filesystem rw failed, startup aborted > > Boot interrupted > > > Its seems that tools have correctly upgraded (man mount let > me see that I > use the FreeBSD 7 version of mount) but not the kernel. > > Does someone has an idea to allow me to use my filesystem > in read write mode > ? This seems to be a problem with the mount command. Why do you feel the kernel may be at fault? If the kernel can get to mount, then it has obviously already mounted / (though possibly in read-only mode, which is something you should let us know...) There is also not necessarily a corrolation between a man page and the actual binary. Check the binary's modification time and such for better detail here. Beyond that, try running the mount command manually from the command line after booting from a CD or in single-user mode, if single-user mode works. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 20:39:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714151065678 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DBF8FC2B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:39:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id b20so1766921rvf.31 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:39:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.135.1 with SMTP id i1mr3354wad.27.1225831176650; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:39:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <001636417a85d6c0f0045ae30fbf@google.com> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:39:36 -0800 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: =?UTF-8?B?QXNoaXNoIFNodWtsYSDgpIbgpLbgpYDgpLcg4KS24KWB4KSV4KWN4KSy?= , Andrew Falanga , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:39:37 -0000 > > > > Following onto the e-mail I made before, apparently that little permissions > > > difference for the directory, .ssh, was the problem. Changing it to 644 has, > > > apparently, fixed the problem. > > > > Cool :) . I learnt this from my first SSH public-key authentication > > configuration ;) > > > > Ashish > > -- > Of course I meant to say that changing the perms to 755 fixed it, not 644. I'm still reviewing the docs but I think that this directory could be made 700, is that correct? Or, at the least, 750? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 20:43:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E99106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:43:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2426A8FC1D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so1390041nfh.33 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:43:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received :x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=kPJ1G7gLW51ZwK4ph62uo5NDgX12bVaw8Mr/XR4rKKc=; b=gpeHYWkFw0X5EEHjka3lrMIUqos6nIteO3TaKPg79YlJuGopOhtREKEB+SXfTrDq9g 7ECrGTQRSOCCHMPwRkKHaiqqsbQw3yrZ6t9ek4p3dZjIkeyZ4VCvTqKBM4RiMdwQtWJO UBRmyGIw9Ys2xN2g2vg6Iq8YNPbAqa3jz8dJA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=owSXhUbk9zf5BgmhnBYuzwMY0JS/7qyKFXBYoVG8mSw9u97L9TkfikLM9rPyMcb+9F a990fjqqQ7Su9bXggaFFyaI4CiBC3nEGy3Gve4VT/F+xEFuZLUBJdMkiHhguUUWZpOl5 RkqpkQ/mKPVwWd3jy0OUwBFqJXmU+sbz5oOlU= Received: by 10.210.133.2 with SMTP id g2mr30595ebd.99.1225831415190; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org ([85.175.24.53]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm12637767eyh.2.2008.11.04.12.43.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org (yuri@darklight.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA4KhVKK001870; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:43:31 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA4KhVnd001869; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:43:31 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.homeunix.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:43:31 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: af300wsm@gmail.com Message-ID: <20081104204331.GB1801@darklight.homeunix.org> References: <001636417a85d6c0f0045ae30fbf@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <001636417a85d6c0f0045ae30fbf@google.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:43:41 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:39:36PM -0800, af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> > Following onto the e-mail I made before, apparently that little > permissions >> >> > difference for the directory, .ssh, was the problem. Changing it to >> 644 > has, >> >> > apparently, fixed the problem. >> >> >> >> Cool :) . I learnt this from my first SSH public-key authentication >> >> configuration ;) >> >> >> >> Ashish >> >> -- >> > > Of course I meant to say that changing the perms to 755 fixed it, not > 644. I'm still reviewing the docs but I think that this directory could > be made 700, is that correct? Or, at the least, 750? >From ssh(1): ~/.ssh/ This directory is the default location for all userâ€specific con†figuration and authentication information. There is no general requirement to keep the entire contents of this directory secret, but the recommended permissions are read/write/execute for the user, and not accessible by others. So 700 is not only possible, but also recommended. :-) Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 21:52:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DFA1065676 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: from hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (hal.Rescomp.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.70.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118228FC19 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ccowart@rescomp.berkeley.edu) Received: by hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu (Postfix, from userid 1225) id 4F0AD3C047A; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:52:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:52:00 -0800 From: Christopher Cowart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081104215200.GA37896@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: RSSP-IT, UC Berkeley User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Increasing the datasize limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:52:09 -0000 --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have a large data-crunching job once a week that needs some more heap space. How do I go about increasing the datasize limit for a process? Here's what I've tried: | $ sudo su - | crunch# limits | Resource limits (current): | cputime infinity secs | filesize infinity kB | datasize 524288 kB | stacksize 65536 kB | coredumpsize infinity kB | memoryuse infinity kB | memorylocked infinity kB | maxprocesses 5547 | openfiles 11095 | sbsize infinity bytes | vmemoryuse infinity kB | crunch# limit datasize 1048576 | crunch# limits | Resource limits (current): | cputime infinity secs | filesize infinity kB | datasize 524288 kB | stacksize 65536 kB | coredumpsize infinity kB | memoryuse infinity kB | memorylocked infinity kB | maxprocesses 5547 | openfiles 11095 | sbsize infinity bytes | vmemoryuse infinity kB | crunch# grep -C 8 '^[^#].*datasize' /etc/login.conf | default:\ | :passwd_format=3Dmd5:\ | :copyright=3D/etc/COPYRIGHT:\ | :welcome=3D/etc/motd:\ | :setenv=3DMAIL=3D/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=3DK,FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=3DYES= :\ | :path=3D/sbin /bin /usr/sbin /usr/bin /usr/games /usr/local/sbin = /usr/local/bin /usr/X11R6/bin ~/bin:\ | :nologin=3D/var/run/nologin:\ | :cputime=3Dunlimited:\ | :datasize=3Dunlimited:\ | :stacksize=3Dunlimited:\ | :memorylocked=3Dunlimited:\ | :memoryuse=3Dunlimited:\ | :filesize=3Dunlimited:\ | :coredumpsize=3Dunlimited:\ | :openfiles=3Dunlimited:\ | :maxproc=3Dunlimited:\ | :sbsize=3Dunlimited:\ According to setrlimit(2), "Only the super-user may raise the maximum limits," but apparently, I can't even increase the limit as the superuser. What am I missing? --=20 Chris Cowart Network Technical Lead Network & Infrastructure Services, RSSP-IT UC Berkeley --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBAwAGBQJJEMQAAAoJEIGh6j3cHUNP7bkQAJK/AebakLJRQYudUjgudhsb CnRC1Y9iV134YXLNc9lyPEoK38R3l54R5egL7FkdNvR9To91ydKCujBeJlBaYhVb Q8h0qa0j44ZMvRh9gEczr1VRV3p9Cp46FDmwt0uiwcBrXkPHMSUxAEFhn7YsRPuu u8p9gmy54Ql1wjmp3jwbhIx2YsN6IQFIZpOsZ8cfIn49HoO3JupWZq5j8v3LZnF6 wqIq/lHXRIHtCgJiRaHUV6++2mwqjdvBzd5eNGXlcyTj9LAo7C5mE60JUYDwskTz Wy9uMb7MNiGqucpOvZUmA7oj+8UxIjoN2vzVv6W45DEbqxL0+DHwvXb0nYsOW+B9 m+EwNsrQaMuNi4/nzFJMAtfNkC8EI8CcECvqC2bIsTt51feL3FHOJ3R4mAoIKmk7 Yj7+Jif8aQQHnXWgTPTcuNDyfWj/vE90Hvu9DhcbrlA3Y+hQ1UPzgO7GHnG02NID jC/1lN4m05n/I2LE3r+Sj3VZpIv1JXXYedVtSU+F+FJkSuazKWv0q7kj61QP84/t XUHu8xiRIL3qy1wZrcpgJqR7Jlsn1c7dJ/H/ZRsWYmFXNALYz6KaKX3+Ip94Xmlu xzyGUrSqwI8GYZwcRJC3ba2CfjTRxysiPdWOdZzW/2CEzz3O+M7KJQcV4VwXzuVg SMxKg+EoR+CQiDPmqOcv =qFS2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 21:59:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093E2106567E; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:59:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7086C8FC1C; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:59:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so3987580fkk.11 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:59:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EW3lw5cI/ECIedx1Ela0LsDJLALLsV9suGyza2FUHnU=; b=L5hLhHsaj0F5jc4d9pLbyyLyQcseWfDruXDCdDqDPpLvaEOXJRqO7TDHkZ39TOzVEU i7iYQriVQ/fVFgQmtuVUCz9T0PrsiMzwN0gems77BnFrb1Lst9bS9B8/HqB58ZzZSEPT xNHvT0JrfZapoSdYOrKNcBNiHSqXN1vn3H0pU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=iXKmWZRxFAqLlJ/N5n5qTG2IB6UIMOXQwD/SuND8dWsuPUO/9up4GNnavQ0U5Hg4nS 6t1jZcotROB5yh65Ufaf7XuSi9YsipS2moFHQxuL1ppEHgpkpnd55OJB5UoTmnZJx6BD L0f39Z//UvLrG6LIoQyTOQF9JF9JIlp8TX+sU= Received: by 10.181.158.3 with SMTP id k3mr23614bko.182.1225835979900; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:59:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.36.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:59:39 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910811041359obffe74auf0ee5b05b3a4eb6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:59:39 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Mario Lobo" In-Reply-To: <200811031923.38317.mlobo@digiart.art.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200810302253.m9UMrXdF014739@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <200811031923.38317.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Juergen Lock Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:59:47 -0000 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Thursday 30 October 2008 19:53:33 Juergen Lock wrote: > > In article <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> you write: > > >Juergen Lock wrote: > > >> Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: > > >> (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on > > >> -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup > to > > >> this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) > > >> > > >> 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC > > >> (the relevant MFC commits are: > > >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 > > >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 > > >> - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs > > >> patches for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter > > >> commit can't be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, > > >> so flash9 probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP > > >> you probably should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP > > >> you also need to use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not > > >> supported with 4BSD. linprocfs patches for 6: > > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch > > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch > > >> > > >> 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 > UTC > > >> (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: > > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html > > >> ) > > >> > > >> 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . > > >> > > >> 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and > > >> dependencies are installed and up to date(!). (the default > > >> emulators/linux_base-fc4 should work, if you want to use a later one > > >> don't forget to set compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and > > >> OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT to whichever version you use in make.conf. > > >> Note however that on 6, only the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 > > >> really works.) > > >> > > >> 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run > > >> nspluginwrapper -i > > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so and restart > > >> firefox. > > >> > > >> 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of > > >> flash9, > > >> > http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e00 > > >>0016.html (if you use portaudit you need to `make > > >> -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' to be able to install the port), and > fc4 > > >> seems to be eol'd too, so you probably want to install something like > > >> the noscript firefox extension, > > >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 > > >> and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on > > >> sites you trust... > > >> > > >> And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even > > >> on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably > want > > >> to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using > linux_kdump > > >> (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying > > >> specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever > > >> signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin > > >> needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about > > >> it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. > > >> If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last > > >> few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... > > >> > > >> You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: > > >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd > > >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so and > > >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd > > >> /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin (if you see > `not > > >> found' in there you know something is wrong) - although that doesn't > > >> show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. > > > > > >Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in native > > >Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional thing I had > > >to do was copy > > >/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so into > > >~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. > > > > Yeah I forgot to note that you want to run nspluginwrapper -i > > as the user that will run the native browser, not as root, then the > > wrapper will go into ~/.mozilla/plugins/... > > > > > After that > > >Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, > > >but slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so lucky > > >and still has problems with flash9 locking up FF. > > > > Hmm, lockups I haven't seen yet here. > > > > HTH, > > Juergen > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > It works almost perfectly for me ! Thanks for this, Juergen !. > > I had to say "almost perfectly" because in myspace, for instance, it takes > a > while for the "flashies" to start. One thing I noticed is that if I > terminate > FF, npviewer.bin remains loaded and I have to kill it. > > Here is what I've got: > > CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz (3199.66-MHz 686-class CPU) > real memory = 2146304000 (2046 MB) > nvidia0: on vgapci0 > FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #3: Wed Oct 29 18:37:07 BRT 2008 (i386) > > kern.ipc.shmmax: 33554432 -> 1036870912 > kern.ipc.shmall: 8192 -> 261072 > compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 -> 2.6.16 > > firefox-3.0.3,1 AND 2.0.0.17 (both work!) > linux_base-fc-4_10 > nspluginwrapper-1.0.0 > linux-flashplugin-9.0r124_2 > > The mtv site worked fine all the way !! Great oldie stuff ! > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Mario try linux_base_fc7 it should stop the freezing. but myself I m having issues with audio and can't figure out why. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:05:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E13FC106568A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp3.brturbo.com.br (smtp3.brte.com.br [200.199.201.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981AA8FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from lobo (unknown [189.70.118.69]) by smtp3.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702C433E65 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:59:33 -0200 (BRST) From: Mario Lobo Organization: DigiArt Systems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:05:52 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811031923.38317.mlobo@digiart.art.br> <28283d910811041359obffe74auf0ee5b05b3a4eb6a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28283d910811041359obffe74auf0ee5b05b3a4eb6a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811041905.52423.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:05:22 -0000 > Mario try linux_base_fc7 it should stop the freezing. but myself I m having > issues with audio and can't figure out why. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" Matt : I have no audio issues. I have linux_base_fc4 and I just installed linux_base_fc7. How do I disable fc4 and enable fc7?? -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:10:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBCF106567C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FA78FC1F for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:10:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so3992432fkk.11 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:10:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=i4x5PRphha0TkIBbaCVuXjulJpMyWthd7sN8mtP3jMk=; b=TeqBWcx3lbwHRdBIgMnpBaG1vgr0kSiKWYrkzS6EnuQOUhdwQCFlto5IS5CgAjBTLH vDsBRltWcuUPbDTAYlxGd9ZGsyJEmqRhLZEaRlJ6LhS7cuSvJDDQbvvgG+MdojcLYhFG 1O7HKPPkM5lazSgoNamTysCyUjZaLE5Z4dU/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Ssc+lEdR2En0opWrCnd2FpAW7MzFa+2Rdxwhdu3LGPx8Z5qswGtITpFp/CgFPsbIYU S5+zb9NOQcjwWp5+R1EBjSVS3CkaGVauuZbdpPWXi53A2d0q2Hhc/ppxs1yTvyTSgMbo VrGCqeM1qS+YwAxmX+5kbuBZ5yWmp/zt4Pp6o= Received: by 10.180.252.8 with SMTP id z8mr28738bkh.158.1225836655690; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:10:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.36.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:10:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910811041410x5080a7ffw884226281d1091ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:10:55 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Mario Lobo" In-Reply-To: <200811041905.52423.mlobo@digiart.art.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811031923.38317.mlobo@digiart.art.br> <28283d910811041359obffe74auf0ee5b05b3a4eb6a@mail.gmail.com> <200811041905.52423.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:10:58 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > Mario try linux_base_fc7 it should stop the freezing. but myself I m > having > > issues with audio and can't figure out why. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Matt : > > I have no audio issues. > > I have linux_base_fc4 and I just installed linux_base_fc7. How do I disable > fc4 and enable fc7?? > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > they get installed in the same place, but you need fc4 for ports still so I would keep it installed just so that the ports will think you have it in use. They will still work though From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:12:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D771065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0868FC21 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CABAAFC1C6; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:12:33 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:12:31 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081104215200.GA37896@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081104215200.GA37896@hal.rescomp.berkeley.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811042312.32089.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Christopher Cowart Subject: Re: Increasing the datasize limit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:12:34 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008 22:52:00 Christopher Cowart wrote: > According to setrlimit(2), "Only the super-user may raise the maximum > limits," but apparently, I can't even increase the limit as the > superuser. > > What am I missing? The hardcoded default of 512Meg. Adjust in /boot/loader.conf like: kern.defdsiz="768M" kern.maxdsiz="768M" See tuning(7) for more info. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:16:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0C71065676 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp1.brturbo.com.br (smtp1.brte.com.br [200.199.201.162]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EED8FC22 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from lobo (unknown [189.70.118.69]) by smtp1.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CEDA3408; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:16:17 -0200 (BRST) From: Mario Lobo Organization: DigiArt Systems To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:17:24 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811041905.52423.mlobo@digiart.art.br> <28283d910811041410x5080a7ffw884226281d1091ae@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28283d910811041410x5080a7ffw884226281d1091ae@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811041917.24654.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Cc: matt donovan Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:16:51 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008 19:10:55 matt donovan wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > Mario try linux_base_fc7 it should stop the freezing. but myself I m > > > > having > > > > > issues with audio and can't figure out why. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Matt : > > > > I have no audio issues. > > > > I have linux_base_fc4 and I just installed linux_base_fc7. How do I > > disable fc4 and enable fc7?? > > > > -- > > Mario Lobo > > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows > > FREE) _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > they get installed in the same place, but you need fc4 for ports still so I > would keep it installed just so that the ports will think you have it in > use. They will still work though Do I have to recompile the flash plugin with OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=fc7? How do I know which fc the pligin is using? Thanks for helping, Matt ! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:22:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2089B106570C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:22:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from numail.brianwhalen.net (numail.brianwhalen.net [66.93.34.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F204D8FC12 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 79B0D284B2; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:22:56 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on numail.brianwhalen.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (numail.brianwhalen.net [192.168.15.25]) by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B532847E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:22:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4910CB3F.4050707@brianwhalen.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:22:55 -0800 From: Brian Whalen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <2daa8b4e0811031738q759d34f4q274a676957ad379e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2daa8b4e0811031738q759d34f4q274a676957ad379e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Using csup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:22:58 -0000 David Allen wrote: > I'd like to move to using csup(1) and there's an error in the manpage > that's raising some questions for me: > > OPTIONS > base=base The default base directory is /usr/local/etc/csup. > > FILES > /usr/local/etc/cvsup Default base directory. > sup Default collDir subdirectory. > base/collDir/collection/checkouts* List files. > > Assuming that the default 'base' directory is /usr/local/etc/cvsup, would > the following three files be sufficient for csup to work? > > # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/standard-supfile > *default tag=RELENG_7_0 > *default host=cvsup10.us.FreeBSD.org > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress > src-all > > # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/doc-supfile > doc-all > > # /usr/local/etc/cvsup/ports-supfile > ports-all tag=. > > # usr/local/etc/cvsup/sup/refuse > [contents of global refusefile] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I like running this script. It requires the port/package fastest-cvsup, it will test for the fastest one then use that. Any server statement in your file is disregarded. You'll the the script still calls csup as you desire. #!/bin/sh if SERVER=`/usr/local/bin/fastest_cvsup -q -c us`; then /usr/bin/csup -g -L 1 -h $SERVER /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile fi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:27:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473ED1065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A8D8FC13 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so4000461fkk.11 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:26:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EIzTxyyvSNFVff5WptcnAdqttQBbgtmQcGJ0X1tSA0A=; b=iZgKwUJN55hFhrTqT86EXGy9pDJpbQvIt4altZSLwrA/H0pYwJV+kR89C4JiI0uNIt y85tBLQpP7hSafLFMB2ioyu7l+lsohzecSIwmfYtiITievdI3CyOUjnW2elxTl7Haq0j sX5+Dhl6UmzYGJX2+IHapVEtSGimjGpF4WUtc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cpIQ7PUE+ueGXLXDAMqSoExi2ttUPWsnWbFOBeNX23tijwwI7MFibepyc+mQdhYoUv ec5A7OEtjyIaVe041dWGjf1rogDTb8isuhLlAmM51y1QD0wlnsvJBgAVs90dpVztRpW6 R2lpmmtY28sTL+5VaX++8hmmpcKiOnEicpQ3c= Received: by 10.181.226.5 with SMTP id d5mr36729bkr.116.1225837616783; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.36.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:26:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910811041426o3a033629o84ff03cddf2b75e0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:26:56 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Mario Lobo" In-Reply-To: <200811041917.24654.mlobo@digiart.art.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811041905.52423.mlobo@digiart.art.br> <28283d910811041410x5080a7ffw884226281d1091ae@mail.gmail.com> <200811041917.24654.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:27:00 -0000 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > On Tuesday 04 November 2008 19:10:55 matt donovan wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > > Mario try linux_base_fc7 it should stop the freezing. but myself I m > > > > > > having > > > > > > > issues with audio and can't figure out why. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > Matt : > > > > > > I have no audio issues. > > > > > > I have linux_base_fc4 and I just installed linux_base_fc7. How do I > > > disable fc4 and enable fc7?? > > > > > > -- > > > Mario Lobo > > > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > > > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows > > > FREE) _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > they get installed in the same place, but you need fc4 for ports still so > I > > would keep it installed just so that the ports will think you have it in > > use. They will still work though > > Do I have to recompile the flash plugin with OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=fc7? > How > do I know which fc the pligin is using? > > Thanks for helping, Matt ! > > -- > Mario Lobo > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) > you shouldn't have to but it wouldn't hurt. since if you mess that up you can just uninstall and reinstall flash9 as usual From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:29:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E485E1065675 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: from numail.brianwhalen.net (numail.brianwhalen.net [66.93.34.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873F88FC1E for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brian@brianwhalen.net) Received: by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 381CE28522; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:28:58 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on numail.brianwhalen.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (numail.brianwhalen.net [192.168.15.25]) by numail.brianwhalen.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805682850B for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:28:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4910CCA8.4020704@brianwhalen.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:28:56 -0800 From: Brian Whalen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490FA51F.7010901@datapipe.com> <87mygfv9hi.fsf@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <87mygfv9hi.fsf@kobe.laptop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:29:35 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:10:25 -0200, "J MPZ" wrote: > >> Hi Paul, >> >> When my connections freeze, I open the tcpdump in other terminal. If I type >> something, type "Enter", on the terminal frozen, the tcpdump show packets, >> like that: >> >> 11:18:45.526256 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 651, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: >> TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P 193:241(48) >> ack 0 win 15136 > {1428:1664}> >> > [...] > > >> I'm using: tcpdump -nvvv -i ste0 host REMOTE_IP >> > > Can you try capturing the connection setup packets, so we can look at > the TCP MSS negotiation values? Starting TCPDUMP *before* one of the > connections that stall is made should capture that. > > There may be an intermediate router or firewall that blocks ICMP and > ends up breaking path MTU discovery. I've seen TCP connections > 'stall' when path-mtu was broken by a setup like this and one of the > intermediate routers started dropping TCP packets that were too large > for one of its interfaces. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Since the result set is so big, something else to try may be invoking the ssh connection with compression on, -C is the flag. THis will allow us to see if it really isnt working or is just slower than you'd like. Brian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:37:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8931065673 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:37:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from smtp2.brturbo.com.br (smtp2.brte.com.br [200.199.201.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2278FC1C for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mlobo@digiart.art.br) Received: from lobo (unknown [189.70.118.69]) by smtp2.brturbo.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id D289F340C; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:36:59 -0200 (BRST) From: Mario Lobo Organization: DigiArt Systems To: "matt donovan" Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:38:15 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811041917.24654.mlobo@digiart.art.br> <28283d910811041426o3a033629o84ff03cddf2b75e0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <28283d910811041426o3a033629o84ff03cddf2b75e0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811041938.15321.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:37:43 -0000 On Tuesday 04 November 2008 19:26:56 matt donovan wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 November 2008 19:10:55 matt donovan wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > > > Mario try linux_base_fc7 it should stop the freezing. but myself I > > > > > m > > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > > issues with audio and can't figure out why. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > > > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > Matt : > > > > > > > > I have no audio issues. > > > > > > > > I have linux_base_fc4 and I just installed linux_base_fc7. How do I > > > > disable fc4 and enable fc7?? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mario Lobo > > > > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > > > > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows > > > > FREE) _______________________________________________ > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > they get installed in the same place, but you need fc4 for ports still > > > so > > > > I > > > > > would keep it installed just so that the ports will think you have it > > > in use. They will still work though > > > > Do I have to recompile the flash plugin with > > OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT=fc7? How > > do I know which fc the pligin is using? > > > > Thanks for helping, Matt ! > > > > -- > > Mario Lobo > > http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br > > FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows > > FREE) > > you shouldn't have to but it wouldn't hurt. since if you mess that up you > can just uninstall and reinstall flash9 as usual Now i'm having audio issues ! no sound at all :-(. I'll revert to fc4 for now. At least the slow downs/freezes were random. Thanks Matt ! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since version 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio.... YET!!] (99,7% winedows FREE) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:41:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A41065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.156]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21EC48FC08 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so2795270fgb.35 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:41:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qIhkATbOkp42K9fUUl632114s5JTU0wYmETBQFg56pg=; b=yHVop8uW22ycIe2wnH0nH1RB4fpD8ocj1z3ZIIy+SXcnLhFulR9S7w9k+Ps862dTYD PfP0LWziLiwSYYKoQqnLVEa50q32EZatstkppkrXw2O/H+tfH6EzMW7ZuTIh7UqhgT9c lrZuUEITITkyMm/dzzJsmSX1cV7o7Cx/mfezY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZbwSAZ3gXvX3pWmv0+gIoGX9K/8VWo+JCpeNfTVgCh6vtly8J0idRsA2k4CbWBnFWb qMJEOcw6g23eT1dht9NpMpV1/iqAIpwZnJ2OOIwKsRd5Zlf1xTFIwYWco4fHtbxgZ7/C GjJJ1OVMUavnvXFn0r5oj7/pSNNhknkHielQc= Received: by 10.181.145.7 with SMTP id x7mr41667bkn.96.1225838478835; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.36.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 14:41:18 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910811041441v68eb57bbqd889c4abb12fcd3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:41:18 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Mario Lobo" In-Reply-To: <200811041938.15321.mlobo@digiart.art.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811041917.24654.mlobo@digiart.art.br> <28283d910811041426o3a033629o84ff03cddf2b75e0@mail.gmail.com> <200811041938.15321.mlobo@digiart.art.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:41:20 -0000 well you just answered my question as well :) figured it was fc7 that made me not have sound but I knew no one that used it as well From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 22:46:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2041065674 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2DC8FC19 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 22:46:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8298C5C22; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 12:49:33 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4910D0D3.4020402@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:46:43 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <20081104182931.GA54773@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081104182931.GA54773@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Christoph Kukulies , Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:46:44 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:13:34AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: >> Julien Cigar wrote: >>> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >>> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor >>> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >>> >>> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >>>> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) >>>> and the installation >>>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>>> >>>> I see >>>> >>>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config >>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config >>>> >>>> and so on. >>>> >>>> Any clues? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christoph Kukulies >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> ############ >> >> Aloha, >> >> I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. >> >> If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf >> >> #boot/loader.conf >> hw.ata.ata-dma=0 >> hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 > > There is no hw.ata.ata-dma tunable. I think you mean hw.ata.ata_dma > (note: underscore, not hyphen). If you really are using hw.ata.ata-dma, > it does nothing. :-) > > Also folks, please remember that "ATA DMA" is for hard disks, and > "ATAPI DMA" is for ATAPI devices (CD/DVD drives). > > Error messages from xpt_* functions are from by the ATAPI-to-CAM > emulation layer (think: SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices), but are > likely signs of underlying compatibility problems between the CD/DVD > drive and FreeBSD, and not the fault of atapicam(4). > > I'm not sure if there's a loader hint to disable xpt. > >> The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I have >> used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. > > The "READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR" often indicates that the CD/DVD drive does > not support a specific read operation mode; some CD/DVD manufacturers > don't implement this command for various reasons. > Aloha Jeremy, Thanks for catching the - vs _ . I hear you, but I have to do the hw settings like above or the servers wont boot they stick at a db> or mountroot> error I think the 7 and 8 series OS are looking for SATA and dont like the IDE drives I use. I know the atapi setting is for CD's and These are brand new DVD/CD RW burners fwiw. A month or so back there were several people on line complaining about this. Maybe one of the FreeBSD comitters will have a look and see if something is wrong. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 23:07:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC81106564A for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:07:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63C88FC1D for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:07:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so4020774fkk.11 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=8gDqMbU0Fb2iawWc3eAUuwYKjpp2kca7WfuUSczgwAw=; b=M4vrInUdfyZyPV7u/7tSJPkLFpe3TFZA/BlQ3gCIW0OKTrz7iZG7jWGzM4uzS5ZMSb HRcJD0BXAHQTzPUyd/mO8jb34zNjjd6V/fzXdUTrOdelSod2IhvxccGRjJU0F0CVDX4c vu1mQ3ghFR7M64Rl0FKT0gEfiCFIbghJ+41l0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=AWrBNoFDRrgPXryNy8AFWzA2ssXMaSIqttvk8Ml3lQCgbQz2o8eJ7jwfyBwiA2bIf7 8+PkFKp/vezunDb8eb84cHxNOyWV14FQPND1F1/fd2xXZ06RYW0Ym1ss7QuzJMFMEpVh DaPUzS3MdEP7kQ6IgoxNNQjVnvZB0rV1/0wzA= Received: by 10.181.139.10 with SMTP id r10mr51764bkn.64.1225840068441; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.219.10 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:07:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9196e72b0811041507l1714614fw7b4bc8c2b901c763@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:07:48 +0100 From: "Popof Popof" Sender: popofnewslists@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <584820.36562.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> <584820.36562.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90649b6cf1cf2360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:07:50 -0000 The kernel used is a GENERIC one from 6.0. / is mounted but in read-only mode and I can use it in single user mode. The mount command has been created on October 26 2008 and I hadn't start my laptop since one year so I'm sure that this comes from my update. Using mount command manually failed: > #mount -w /dev/ad0s2a / > mount option is unknown > mount: /dev/ad0s2a My fstab file contains /dev/ad0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 > but ad0s2a is in ro mode as show mount output /dev/ados2a on / (ufs, local, read-only) > 2008/11/4 mdh > --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Popof Popof wrote: > > From: Popof Popof > > Subject: Unable to mount / in read - write mode > > To: "FreeBSD Questions" > > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 1:57 PM > > Hi, > > I recently tried to update my FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 7.0. > > I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always > > booting on the 6.0 > > kernel. > > The problem is that I have an error during boot process: > > > > mount option is unknown > > > mount: /dev/ad0s2a : Invalid argument > > > Mounting root filesystem rw failed, startup aborted > > > Boot interrupted > > > > > > Its seems that tools have correctly upgraded (man mount let > > me see that I > > use the FreeBSD 7 version of mount) but not the kernel. > > > > Does someone has an idea to allow me to use my filesystem > > in read write mode > > ? > > This seems to be a problem with the mount command. Why do you feel the > kernel may be at fault? If the kernel can get to mount, then it has > obviously already mounted / (though possibly in read-only mode, which is > something you should let us know...) > There is also not necessarily a corrolation between a man page and the > actual binary. Check the binary's modification time and such for better > detail here. Beyond that, try running the mount command manually from the > command line after booting from a CD or in single-user mode, if single-user > mode works. > > - mdh > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 4 23:14:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD131065672 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C88FC17 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:14:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joompz@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so1655458rvb.7 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:14:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=y9nhKp0CcTzKWyPV+T7D7yt3K/P0WU1M2pZd7UT6hmc=; b=srh3pSLC6JzJUYzP/dM12C8+UB+Gn7p3JY3YijJKl+1lQQL4tWW5oYs7Tl5/BrREP/ SMIYoexU9lJVsrGG1dySiHz38DHSbGHRTKoSRRtfT8zE7voQOf1Js5QDjxd/xLgbEyWx PNumYrXz7dI3BNkz1u2poPLJb+YbOqIVYuJk0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=yDfdD9stgpN+9tfBu4nL/62lhzUDoxXD4chqbZA4pInr5SxlDiZdbGI4+/vSN0kEg3 +LkiXpbSAjhNIS+3H38cMreFtUxB7Ein0Kmd2BQZt+uNNx+nBzEak4BQhEqyHn+bQO1x 3konvr3cp4uUgU3U1uY+cVDuRiVmhHDA8EHvQ= Received: by 10.140.191.14 with SMTP id o14mr110122rvf.78.1225840442070; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.174.19 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:14:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:14:02 -0200 From: "J MPZ" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4910CCA8.4020704@brianwhalen.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <490FA51F.7010901@datapipe.com> <87mygfv9hi.fsf@kobe.laptop> <4910CCA8.4020704@brianwhalen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:14:02 -0000 YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! It's work! With the -C option work fine! :-) Now, what I need to do to use it without -C? Do I need to change some option? The ssh was executed on Linux: Linux (ssh -C host) -> ASA <- Internet -> FreeBSD Thanks! 2008/11/4 Brian Whalen > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > >> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 11:10:25 -0200, "J MPZ" wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> When my connections freeze, I open the tcpdump in other terminal. If I >>> type >>> something, type "Enter", on the terminal frozen, the tcpdump show >>> packets, >>> like that: >>> >>> 11:18:45.526256 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 51, id 651, offset 0, flags [DF], >>> proto: >>> TCP (6), length: 112) 189.21.230.195.20787 > 201.57.5.2.2264: P >>> 193:241(48) >>> ack 0 win 15136 >> {1428:1664}> >>> >>> >> [...] >> >> >> >>> I'm using: tcpdump -nvvv -i ste0 host REMOTE_IP >>> >>> >> >> Can you try capturing the connection setup packets, so we can look at >> the TCP MSS negotiation values? Starting TCPDUMP *before* one of the >> connections that stall is made should capture that. >> >> There may be an intermediate router or firewall that blocks ICMP and >> ends up breaking path MTU discovery. I've seen TCP connections >> 'stall' when path-mtu was broken by a setup like this and one of the >> intermediate routers started dropping TCP packets that were too large >> for one of its interfaces. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > Since the result set is so big, something else to try may be invoking the > ssh connection with compression on, -C is the flag. THis will allow us to > see if it really isnt working or is just slower than you'd like. > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 00:16:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333911065686 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:16:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com [67.222.38.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3FBD8FC26 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 29028 invoked by uid 0); 5 Nov 2008 00:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2008 00:16:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=DlX2xaUHm591jC/HTSIWF3ezuwPG3jD8J1z5WZjdJBhUHvxhCmYoXvBLzBe41TH8/aN6KxgsFMqAw1O/sF02WUncVwsCD17IcVMG3BwroCbjc/Dd0oQf+UTeoIvv7Ojr; Received: from frcc-gw1.colostate.edu ([129.19.1.130] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxW4J-0005cK-Pc for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:16:20 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:16:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:16:53 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105001653.GA2742@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490CADB3.4070902@lazlarlyricon.com> <120974.86441.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <120974.86441.qm@web56801.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 129.19.1.130 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:16:22 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 01:09:18PM -0700, mdh wrote: > --- On Sat, 11/1/08, Rolf G Nielsen wrote: > >=20 > > If I need to (re)configure the behaviour of som app or part > > of the system, I edit the appropriate config file, which > > takes about a minute or two... >=20 > Unless you've never modified the configs for that app before, in which ca= se you have to learn the configuration format. It also sometimes occurs th= at these formats and locations and whatnot are changed between released by = the developers. Above and beyond that, some apps have good configuration d= ocumentation and are a breeze. Others, less so. =20 >=20 > I'm not advocating a user interface for configuring everything, but for c= ertain things which are inherently extremely complex, such as window manage= r layout and behavior, it's my opinion that it really is a time-saver. =20 >=20 For heavy-weight GUI environments like KDE and GNOME, and even "feature-rich" but kinda medium-weight alternatives like WindowMaker (possibly with GNUstep to make it a complete "desktop environment"), I agree: a GUIfied configuration utility is a dire necessity. For something at the lightweight end of the spectrum (assuming halfway decent design), such as AHWM or wmii, such a tool would just get in the way. > >=20 > > If a user of some fancy desktop with lots of whistles and > > bells wants to do the same, he/she has to browse through an > > extensive hierarchy of categories and subcategories to get > > to the setting he/she wants to change. That hierarchy is > > more than often far from intuitive, so that very same task > > may take ten minutes or more. >=20 > I find KDE's configuration interface to be intuitive and generally quite = sane. GNOME's isn't lacking in that area either, imho, it's just lacking a= lot of options that I feel ought to be tunable parameters (most of which a= re, but require extensive config file hacking...) =20 >=20 My very vague recollection of KDE 3 is that it was much easier to find what I needed for configuration purposes than it is with KDE 4. Version 4 seems to either lack a lot of configuration options or hide them really well for some perverse reason. > The simple fact is that I can configure my KDE desktop quicker than someo= ne can, seeking the same granularity of modification, configure something w= hich has no UI for configuration. =20 > This isn't too big a deal for me, or you, or likely many of the folks on = this list, but for someone who is new to FreeBSD and has never hacked a win= dow manager config file before, it likely is. They'd have to spend quite s= ome time learning the format and locations, and finally doing the tweaking = to get what they actually want from their system. =20 >=20 You make a good point here. Maybe, if I ever get around to picking up AHWM maintenance (since its creator abandoned it), I'll create a GUI configurator. Of course, I don't really have much need for it -- but it would be absurdly easy to do, I think. > Part of the reason a lot of folks use FreeBSD is for its flexibility. On= e can do a great deal with a FreeBSD system. It doesn't have to be taxing.= There's no sense in giving out "hardcore points" to people who expend tim= e and energy doing something that can be done more efficiently through a UI= and without the learning curve. =20 >=20 "More efficiently" and "without the learning curve" are not correlated, in my experience. In fact, I find that usually they each get in the other's way. Exceptions include things like Web page design. There's a far more significant learning curve for basic use of wmii than for KDE, for instance, but once one gets past the learning curve wmii is a far better productivity enhancer than KDE for many types of activity. The same goes for Vim vs. Notepad, tcsh vs. DOS, and Mutt vs. Outlook Express. > >=20 > > In what way is the latter easier than the first? I see > > none... >=20 > The fact is that your opinion (and mine, for that matter) are fairly subj= ective. I've done things both ways - I was using FreeBSD before KDE and GN= OME were at all widely used, and if you wanted a decent looking desktop tha= t functioned the way you wanted to be most productive, you had to hack a co= nfig file. =20 > That said, I just don't see how KDE's configuration system (as this is th= e topic at hand in this thread) is at all counterintuitive. =20 My memory of KDE 3 is pretty sketchy, so I'll stick with KDE 4 on this one: I found KDE's configuration interface(s) very unintuitive recently. So called "intuitive" design is, to a significant degree, predicated upon assumptions of familiarity. Given a lack of familiarity, the time spent finding the options I needed to customize the configuration of a KDE4 GUI last week by stumbling around clicking on various things to see if that's how I find the way to adjust behavior foo was at least comparable to, if not greater than, the time I spent learning how to hack AHWM's configuration file. In fact, I'd say that "easy" is much less subjective than "intuitive". It's "easy" to create a new keyboard shortcut in AHWM's configuration file using Vim, even if I had to get past an initial learning curve before it became easy -- and I find hacking configuration files quite intuitive, though part of the reason for that is, of course, the simple fact that I do it a lot. >=20 > As far as KDE4 being untested, I'd send you over to the KDE folks to let = them set you straight on that. The short of it is that you're just flat-ou= t wrong. =20 It may be heavily tested, but in my experience, it is not *thoroughly* tested. It was . . . problematic, trying to get things to work properly, in my case. Turning off the desktop folder view was the only way to work around the display problems with that widget last week, for example. I, personally, don't like desktop icons anyway -- but the computer I was working with was for someone else, and the lack of desktop icons would be kind of a burden on the person for whom the computer was intended. Since the folder view thing is KDE4's official way to do the desktop icon thing, this seems like kind of a big deal to me. I've never had problems of that kind with KDE's version 3, nor with MS Windows. Of course, I'd never trade that problem for the kinds of problems I have had with MS Windows -- but this seems like just one more piece of evidence of a step backwared from version 3. For my purposes, KDE4 is beta software. >=20 > At the end of the day, when you find bugs in closed-source software, you = call the vendor and file a ticket. With open-source software, since you ar= en't paying anything, you ought to deal with bugs through the community. B= ug trackers for KDE exist. So do mailing lists. There's a community there= with people - usually unpaid volunteers - who are willing to help debug th= e software, just as commercial software vendors have paid support staff for= such issues. If you don't like free UNIX-like systems, you can buy a nice= Sun box and get Solaris support from Sun. In fact, Sun's support has been= really good in my vast experience, so I'd even go so far as to recommend t= his if what you want is that level of support. Even Sun releases bugs some= times though. This is why they, like those of us in the open-source world,= release patches. =20 >=20 Indeed. I agree with that -- as far as it goes. KDE4 seems to have some bigger bug problems than what I'd expect from supposedly release-worthy software, though. > This whole argument just strikes me as a lot of meaningless complaining i= n lieu of actually productively trying to identify and fix bugs. =20 If you want to get involved in bug fixing, using a beta version is a great idea. If you don't have the time or inclination, a supposed release version that feels like beta test software is not the answer. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Nat Torkington, on Perl internals: ". . . an interconnected mass of livers and pancreas and lungs and little sharp pointy things and the occasional exploding kidney." --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkQ5fUACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXZeQCfRQyXuSV20ix8MJ+XYIOxPMYh CAwAoO471EQY8oDMKOmhNMPfyhWt0vTY =wOmx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 00:23:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971501065694 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-126.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-126.bluehost.com [67.222.38.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 62B078FC1A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 7232 invoked by uid 0); 5 Nov 2008 00:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2008 00:23:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=dfAxSyh4nCN3CnUQiaN4m94KK9Ngp4EIVJ0kRPPoLPDhuVJxyrgJelwWf4onZIPg63iIoG9/VjlPP7R+Y8DtS7tJNExoUsklKxSyrJSs5wwXW+XZUl/Rqa/8r7lv0ADD; Received: from frcc-gw1.colostate.edu ([129.19.1.130] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxWAv-00080g-4o for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:23:09 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:23:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:23:43 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105002343.GB2742@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081101160415.GB14218@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081101174556.L11029@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <490C955C.2010201@rawbw.com> <490CE7FE.807@hdk5.net> <20081102004812.4faecd38.freebsd@edvax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081102004812.4faecd38.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 129.19.1.130 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:23:11 -0000 --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 12:48:12AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:36:30 -1000, Al Plant wrote: > > Aloha, > > Try XFCE 3 or 4 for an excellent OS window manager. >=20 > XFCE 3 can be turned into a CDE lookalike if it's desired. > It's very lightweight and still features all the nice things > you know from a UNIX X environment. Zsers coming from CDE > will feel comfortable, if you take the time to tweak the > settings a little bit. Correction: XFCE is very lightweight *compared to KDE and GNOME*. It's pretty hefty compared to a lot of other options -- many of which are comparable, in terms of popularity, to XFCE. >=20 > In my opinion - and that's very individual, you know - WindowMaker > is one of the best window managers around. Fast, lightweight, > easy to configure, excellent keyboard support (that's where the > other ones are lacking), ah, and did I mention it's fast? You > can provide a useful (!) system even on a P1 150 MHz system > with it. No joke. In the medium-to-heavy weight class, WindowMaker is definitely in my top five window managers. There's also a complete "desktop environment" for it comparable to KDE, GNOME, and XFCE desktop environments, in the form of the GNUstep framework and all those applications built on it. It manages to be significantly lighter on resources and better performing than KDE, GNOME, and XFCE. It's quite a bit less "intuitive" to people coming from MS Windows or MacOS, of course, because it emulates NeXTSTEP rather than those other OSes, but if that doesn't bother you, it's an excellent choice in my opinion. It was the first window manager I discovered that did more to stay the heck out of my way than it did to try to help me do things the way someone else decided they should be done. >=20 > If the magic of the tiling window managers opens up to you, > you will even be more productive. Allthough I tried several > of them, their magic wouldn't open up to me... :-) I find wmii to be quite easy to pick up, in general, among tiling window managers. It also allows floating window management, and can even be configured to do that by default rather than the tiling thing, if you so desire. It's currently my second choice window manager, after AHWM (which is *not* a tiling window manager). --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Bill McKibben: "The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to yield." --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkQ548ACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXt2QCgivZ9nHusezJW3lDgTnign46P TR4AoIKj4Ehk4/8g+VeoSZmxe6dritci =Im6b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --QKdGvSO+nmPlgiQ/-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 00:28:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711B11065678 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-144.bluehost.com [67.222.38.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D6578FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:28:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 11540 invoked by uid 0); 5 Nov 2008 00:28:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2008 00:28:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=i8dOyzO8GjflV2S4iyZYE9bHfv0i7dl2N0nCk3J4r7v90cDvN++V6AKCLIk85kiQRiUHduQkI3RUxjYVXoLqCIjdofNj/8qhceMdEG9JjYLfp/yXbNn8C/icjEzI8qD5; Received: from frcc-gw1.colostate.edu ([129.19.1.130] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KxWG1-0001N0-55 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:28:25 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:28:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:28:56 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105002856.GC2742@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <490C0159.3000908@rawbw.com> <20081101163322.B10508@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081102164309.GE3366@georg.localdomain> <20081102183212.G18776@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081102102117.0818f271@tau.draftnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081102102117.0818f271@tau.draftnet> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 129.19.1.130 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:28:27 -0000 --IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 02, 2008 at 10:21:17AM -0800, Bruce Cran wrote: >=20 > And what about OS X? To me it seems it's a combination of the > user-friendliness of Windows with the power of *NIX. And lots of > people have moved over to using it. Unix is *very* user friendly. It's just picky about who it considers friends. I don't remember who said that first, but I find it accurate. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Malaclypse the Younger: "'Tis an ill wind that blows no minds." --IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkQ6MgACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWlhACg8IAcNBopEcYM5sNFmNppVwq9 I0YAoJVyx3nZcCvQBwEPSt6jAz+8DZx4 =MuAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IpbVkmxF4tDyP/Kb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 00:07:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326A7106564A; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:07:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E6CC8FC22; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so4047108fkk.11 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:07:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=RU75imssDaRkzTkjLwM62RdJ02e4kq8jFnMDs2zPmf0=; b=vN9HPw891+yuyuiWxH9me/J/qo4zMr30wPkqdgXij7DILbrIp8gNW+W7OfDYN96ycS wl8G6QKhHQCYZyfbXIfAP4E/LLpQbk5k9FL2y7D4o0z0wPMH1rfBq1thG/ASTIAX3Zgb 0UY38XNskuSincpJjfHIxS9V+1SD5tUYpXnbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RNFoK4ehxxPkaQkgBUqoGLXlQ8R4EKq1icu7EPOyy4qIrdTLHrtBfI9H+O8q8RfkEI 1wdNN5MFfDC4kZGLWCekiH7OrQjhScVCX/uJMo1evzNbCQghkmlT01vYPCMq80RTD1gQ YOvddRQFH+VGb/jsATcc0MDNxXR9t6R3zf1no= Received: by 10.181.203.13 with SMTP id f13mr58213bkq.168.1225843662929; Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.36.5 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:07:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <28283d910811041607s3611e2fdp21501f5df5666fbc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:07:42 -0500 From: "matt donovan" To: "Juergen Lock" In-Reply-To: <28283d910810301834sa165d13p4fbb2c43859e3444@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <1225293355.1683.75.camel@localhost> <49088643.2080504@aldan.algebra.com> <20081029190551.7f06a204@ernst.jennejohn.org> <20081029190232.GA81068@dchagin.dialup.corbina.ru> <200810302314.m9UNE40j015122@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <28283d910810301834sa165d13p4fbb2c43859e3444@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:52:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Mikhail Teterin , freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org, Steve Polyack , dchagin@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:07:45 -0000 On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:34 PM, matt donovan wrote: > Since I had linux_base-fc4 installed npviewer.bin kept hogging all CPU > power until I killed it for native firefox3. Well I installed linux_base-fc7 > and now flash9 and npviewer.bin works fine in native firefox3. > > ok I tried this for the ones that have firefox3 native installed. > > install linux_base-fc7 and npviewer.bin should stop hogging all the cpu > along with firefox3 freezing up until npviewer.bin is killed. > > I do not use extensions in my firefox3 so the flashblock issue before was > not an issue for me. > > > ok it seems fc7 might be missing a dependency so I upgraded to fc8 for ff3 and now I have sound, since there have been reports that linux_base_f4 does not like ff3 that much I had to upgrade my linux_base From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 01:14:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35451065675 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8028FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.51]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bCwg1a00216LCl057DDyK6; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:13:58 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bDES1a0092P6wsM3SDESZQ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:14:27 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qww_42MyOAgA:10 a=QrKowp_NS8wA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=dEtWVTSfZ4hqJVhRqVsA:9 a=_E--43VMvPNvFps0DuUA:7 a=zflNK8BXtvdjf3eeoYZ3p6f1q6QA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF1E5C9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:14:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:14:25 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Al Plant Message-ID: <20081105011425.GA62321@icarus.home.lan> References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <20081104182931.GA54773@icarus.home.lan> <4910D0D3.4020402@hdk5.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4910D0D3.4020402@hdk5.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Julien Cigar , Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:14:28 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:46:43PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:13:34AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: >>> Julien Cigar wrote: >>>> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >>>> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor >>>> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >>>> >>>> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or >>>>> the motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>>>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD >>>>> (7.1-BETA2) and the installation >>>>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>>>> >>>>> I see >>>>> >>>>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config >>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config >>>>> >>>>> and so on. >>>>> >>>>> Any clues? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christoph Kukulies >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> ############ >>> >>> Aloha, >>> >>> I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. >>> >>> If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf >>> >>> #boot/loader.conf >>> hw.ata.ata-dma=0 >>> hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 >> >> There is no hw.ata.ata-dma tunable. I think you mean hw.ata.ata_dma >> (note: underscore, not hyphen). If you really are using hw.ata.ata-dma, >> it does nothing. :-) >> >> Also folks, please remember that "ATA DMA" is for hard disks, and >> "ATAPI DMA" is for ATAPI devices (CD/DVD drives). >> >> Error messages from xpt_* functions are from by the ATAPI-to-CAM >> emulation layer (think: SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices), but are >> likely signs of underlying compatibility problems between the CD/DVD >> drive and FreeBSD, and not the fault of atapicam(4). >> >> I'm not sure if there's a loader hint to disable xpt. >> >>> The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I >>> have used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. >> >> The "READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR" often indicates that the CD/DVD drive does >> not support a specific read operation mode; some CD/DVD manufacturers >> don't implement this command for various reasons. >> > Aloha Jeremy, > > Thanks for catching the - vs _ . > > I hear you, but I have to do the hw settings like above or the servers > wont boot they stick at a db> > or mountroot> Those are two very different things. A db> prompt indicates you're hitting a kernel panic, while a mountroot> prompt indicates the OS can't find your root filesystem. > I think the 7 and 8 series OS are looking for SATA and dont like the IDE > drives I use. I understand, but what I'm saying is that "hw.ata.ata-dma=0" (note the hyphen) is not fixing/solving anything, because it contains a typo. > I know the atapi setting is for CD's and These are brand new DVD/CD RW > burners fwiw. > > A month or so back there were several people on line complaining about > this. > > Maybe one of the FreeBSD comitters will have a look and see if > something is wrong. The "I get dropped to a mountroot prompt" problem has been reported many times, and so far there haven't been any indications what causes it to happen for people. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 01:16:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D06106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F02D8FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:16:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bCx31a00A0QkzPwA5DG01z; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:16:00 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bDFx1a0062P6wsM8NDFxwz; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:15:58 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=V7y7WvOlJO5FHsGduE0A:9 a=vdwqQobrsNGeZeypku6iaszH9msA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7609CC9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:15:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:15:57 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: cpghost Message-ID: <20081105011557.GB62321@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:16:02 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:13:54PM +0100, cpghost wrote: > How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? > > This won't work: > $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - > because tail doesn't start at the right location. > > Using a blocksize (-b) with tail may also not be right, > because the captured packets are not the same size. > > This seems to work: > $ tcpdump -n -s 116 -i pflog0 > but now, both tcpdump and pflogd are competing for the same > interface pflog0. > > I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be > EITHER logged by pflogd > XOR displayed by tcpdump. > Is that so? > > If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets > would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before > pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. > > Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while > still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears > on the pflog0 interface? How? Please post this to freebsd-pf, where you can get better help. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 01:17:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 315F4106568C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABDA48FC1D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bD5j1a0030Fqzac51DHwgG; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:17:56 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bDHu1a00D2P6wsM3UDHueJ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:17:55 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Pfwp9ct7y7IA:10 a=vSN4N9KOxSAA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=eGuwx5rg478pu0Rp6aUA:9 a=q5S2YqzC_r-g7tOBvO3wAZAINrEA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4F9E4C9419; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:17:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:17:54 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: af300wsm@gmail.com Message-ID: <20081105011754.GC62321@icarus.home.lan> References: <001636417a85d6c0f0045ae30fbf@google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <001636417a85d6c0f0045ae30fbf@google.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Re: Authentication with SSH using public keys X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:17:58 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:39:36PM -0800, af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> > Following onto the e-mail I made before, apparently that little > permissions >> >> > difference for the directory, .ssh, was the problem. Changing it to >> 644 > has, >> >> > apparently, fixed the problem. >> >> >> >> Cool :) . I learnt this from my first SSH public-key authentication >> >> configuration ;) >> >> >> >> Ashish >> >> -- >> > > Of course I meant to say that changing the perms to 755 fixed it, not > 644. I'm still reviewing the docs but I think that this directory could > be made 700, is that correct? Or, at the least, 750? The ~/.ssh directory should be 700. Remember, sshd runs as root, which means the permissions shouldn't really matter (sans the execute bit, which as I said is needed for directories). You don't want 750 unless you ***really*** intend for members of the same group to have read access to your ~/.ssh/ directory. Based on the OP's description of the setup, he does not need this. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 01:47:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6C31065675; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517048FC0A; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 01:47:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05DFC5C22; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 15:50:16 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4910FB2E.1060709@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:47:26 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <20081104182931.GA54773@icarus.home.lan> <4910D0D3.4020402@hdk5.net> <20081105011425.GA62321@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081105011425.GA62321@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Julien Cigar , Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:47:27 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 12:46:43PM -1000, Al Plant wrote: >> Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:13:34AM -1000, Al Plant wrote: >>>> Julien Cigar wrote: >>>>> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >>>>> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very poor >>>>> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or >>>>>> the motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>>>>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD >>>>>> (7.1-BETA2) and the installation >>>>>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>>>>> >>>>>> I see >>>>>> >>>>>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config >>>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for xpt_config >>>>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for xpt_config >>>>>> >>>>>> and so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any clues? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Christoph Kukulies >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>>> ############ >>>> >>>> Aloha, >>>> >>>> I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. >>>> >>>> If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf >>>> >>>> #boot/loader.conf >>>> hw.ata.ata-dma=0 >>>> hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 >>> There is no hw.ata.ata-dma tunable. I think you mean hw.ata.ata_dma >>> (note: underscore, not hyphen). If you really are using hw.ata.ata-dma, >>> it does nothing. :-) >>> >>> Also folks, please remember that "ATA DMA" is for hard disks, and >>> "ATAPI DMA" is for ATAPI devices (CD/DVD drives). >>> >>> Error messages from xpt_* functions are from by the ATAPI-to-CAM >>> emulation layer (think: SCSI emulation for ATAPI devices), but are >>> likely signs of underlying compatibility problems between the CD/DVD >>> drive and FreeBSD, and not the fault of atapicam(4). >>> >>> I'm not sure if there's a loader hint to disable xpt. >>> >>>> The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I >>>> have used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. >>> The "READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR" often indicates that the CD/DVD drive does >>> not support a specific read operation mode; some CD/DVD manufacturers >>> don't implement this command for various reasons. >>> >> Aloha Jeremy, >> >> Thanks for catching the - vs _ . >> >> I hear you, but I have to do the hw settings like above or the servers >> wont boot they stick at a db> >> or mountroot> > > Those are two very different things. A db> prompt indicates you're > hitting a kernel panic, while a mountroot> prompt indicates the OS can't > find your root filesystem. > >> I think the 7 and 8 series OS are looking for SATA and dont like the IDE >> drives I use. > > I understand, but what I'm saying is that "hw.ata.ata-dma=0" (note the > hyphen) is not fixing/solving anything, because it contains a typo. > >> I know the atapi setting is for CD's and These are brand new DVD/CD RW >> burners fwiw. >> >> A month or so back there were several people on line complaining about >> this. >> >> Maybe one of the FreeBSD comitters will have a look and see if >> something is wrong. > > The "I get dropped to a mountroot prompt" problem has been reported many > times, and so far there haven't been any indications what causes it to > happen for people. > _____________ Aloha Jeremy, The - was not in the installs. I typed it correctly in the several cases where it was used. It will be interesting to see if anybody can find a solution to these issues. I am not a coder just a long time user of FreeBSD, (since 3.*) I think it was. It is such a rock solid system that most of us are curious when something like this happens and its hard to find out why. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 02:22:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C31E106567A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:22:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5818FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:22:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10A55C79 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:23:47 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1225851825; bh=kzaPlzaoyDhk3N9o2T1itsVBn905 mWLV+KMYtXv91vU=; b=BD+MyvzxjRBzWaE/hitbSNQWAEUdCVTrcodt9E3nNGER gzayggRNkIVfk3BuZ9MzyJK7FNjmhcwVWFqOq889vo+I7Aj1BBgPJ24cb97gabFf hRrbDI6FhVUnt3DOhe0PyktVEhXuIUhtJbIIGFHoKloHd7jsFz8aqfWigu6llkU= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id sTdVYC2sDli6 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:23:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:22:42 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105022242.GA1178@shepherd> References: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:22:47 -0000 cpghost wrote: > How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? > > This won't work: > $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - > because tail doesn't start at the right location. [...] > I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be > EITHER logged by pflogd > XOR displayed by tcpdump. > Is that so? > > If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets > would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before > pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. > > Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while > still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears > on the pflog0 interface? How? According to pflogd(8): Display the logs in real time (this does not interfere with the operation of pflogd): # tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 03:04:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9761065676 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490688FC1C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 03:04:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.173.139]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 4 Nov 2008 19:04:23 -0800 From: "joeb" To: "Robert" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:05:20 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20081104092130.6e3d60fe@asus64> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2008 03:04:23.0249 (UTC) FILETIME=[34515410:01C93EF3] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: xfce decktop time display X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 03:04:48 -0000 Right click on the pgm launcher does not open the drop down menu. Reading the xfce4 user guide says alternate way to open the pgm launcher drop down menu is to use Ctrl + left mouse click. This works. I have a two button mouse. Is this a Bug? By the way, once the pgm launcher drop down menu opens changing the clock time display format was easy. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 1:22 AM To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: xfce decktop time display On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:53:47 +0800 "FBSD1" wrote: > Using Xfce4 and the time is displayed in military time 2200. > Want to change this to regular AM/PM displayed time. 10pm > Been through the manual and all the menus and can not find knob to > change the time setting. > > Thanks for any help you can give. > Right click the time display and uncheck 24 hours _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 04:15:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA909106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3708FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:15:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0E111A2D00; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:15:53 -0400 (AST) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86664-10; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:15:53 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (blk-224-204-104.eastlink.ca [24.224.204.104]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B42F111A2CFF; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:15:52 -0400 (AST) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:15:51 -0400 From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Gabriel Lavoie Message-ID: <6325A1EC2612A377A50F6576@ganymede.hub.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:15:54 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Gabriel Lavoie wrote: > When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? real-time ... and they aren't "for all time", the #s are based on systems reporting in over the past 60 days, so you will periodically see a bit of back tracking, depending on when in the cycle hosts reported in ... if I reload the page a few times, I may see it go from 25 013 -> 25 103 -> 25 143 -> 25 140 ... but the overall is an upward increase in numbers ... > > Thanks > > Gabriel > > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier > >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: >> >> On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier (scrappy@hub.org) >>> wrote: >>> >>> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats >>>> to set things up. >>>> >>> >>> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too >>> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had >>> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats >>> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the >>> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am >>> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just >>> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the >>> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going >>> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to >>> ignore it. >>> >> >> There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original script >> only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using >> laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they would >> be counted also ... >> >> And you are correct, just change: >> >> bsdstats_enable="YES" >> >> to >> >> bsdstats_enable="NO" >> >> And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at a >> minimum, you just need: >> >> monthly_statistics_enable="YES" >> >> in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the >> devices/ports reports ... >> >> ---- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org >> ) >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > > -- > Gabriel Lavoie > glavoie@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - -- Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkRHfcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMP1gCfWcuWqCGNWSR5HuGSO4vgRwLb Y0EAn3+Pi3/1+eM/mxmKFrF7AFTMQBbv =yRDb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 05:22:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4AB106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CD38FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36D234BD9; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:19:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:22:01 +0100 From: cpghost To: Matthew Seaman Message-ID: <20081105052200.GC2277@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> <4910A08A.6050204@infracaninophile.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4910A08A.6050204@infracaninophile.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:22:05 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 07:20:42PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > cpghost wrote: > > How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? > > > > This won't work: > > $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - > > because tail doesn't start at the right location. > > > > Using a blocksize (-b) with tail may also not be right, > > because the captured packets are not the same size. > > > > This seems to work: > > $ tcpdump -n -s 116 -i pflog0 > > but now, both tcpdump and pflogd are competing for the same > > interface pflog0. > > > > I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be > > EITHER logged by pflogd > > XOR displayed by tcpdump. > > Is that so? > > > > If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets > > would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before > > pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. > > > > Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while > > still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears > > on the pflog0 interface? How? > > > > Running tcpdump against the pflog0 pseudo-interface no more stops > pflogd recording the traffic than running tcpdump on your network > interface blocks traffic from the net. Ah, okay. pflog0 therefore delivers a *copy* of the packets to all subscribers. That's good to know! > tcpdump -vv -i pflog0 > > really is the way to go if you want to see what your firewall is > logging in real time. Yep, will do. Thanks for helping. -cpghost. > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > Kent, CT11 9PW -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 05:27:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F47A1065691 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:27:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB0B8FC22 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968CE35ECA; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:24:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:27:11 +0100 From: cpghost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105052710.GD2277@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> <20081105022242.GA1178@shepherd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105022242.GA1178@shepherd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:27:15 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 09:22:42PM -0500, Sahil Tandon wrote: > cpghost wrote: > > > How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? > > > > This won't work: > > $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - > > because tail doesn't start at the right location. > > [...] > > > I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be > > EITHER logged by pflogd > > XOR displayed by tcpdump. > > Is that so? > > > > If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets > > would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before > > pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. > > > > Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while > > still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears > > on the pflog0 interface? How? > > According to pflogd(8): > > Display the logs in real time (this does not interfere with the > operation of pflogd): > > # tcpdump -n -e -ttt -i pflog0 EOUTOFCAFFEINE I actually read the man page, but I didn't pay attention to this. Sorry for the noise and thanks for pointing it out. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 05:30:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE78F1065688 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5421F8FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from epia-2.farid-hajji.net (epia-2 [192.168.254.11]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A8735E9B; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:28:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:30:41 +0100 From: cpghost To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081105053040.GE2277@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> References: <20081104191354.GA1819@phenom.cordula.ws> <20081105011557.GB62321@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105011557.GB62321@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Watching /var/log/pflog grow X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:30:45 -0000 On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 05:15:57PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 08:13:54PM +0100, cpghost wrote: > > How can I watch /var/log/pflog grow with tcpdump, "tail -f" style? > > > > This won't work: > > $ tail -f /var/log/pflog | tcpdump -n -s 116 -r - > > because tail doesn't start at the right location. > > > > Using a blocksize (-b) with tail may also not be right, > > because the captured packets are not the same size. > > > > This seems to work: > > $ tcpdump -n -s 116 -i pflog0 > > but now, both tcpdump and pflogd are competing for the same > > interface pflog0. > > > > I'm afraid that in the latter case, every packet will be > > EITHER logged by pflogd > > XOR displayed by tcpdump. > > Is that so? > > > > If yes, /var/log/pflog would be incomplete, because some packets > > would have been snatched away from pflog0 by tcpdump, before > > pflogd ever got a chance to read them out. > > > > Is there a way to watch /var/log/pflog grow, while > > still making sure that pflogd logs EVERY packet that appears > > on the pflog0 interface? How? > > Please post this to freebsd-pf, where you can get better help. Thank you, but the problem seems solved (pflog0 delivers copies of packets). I'll test this tomorrow and should I miss some packets in the log file, I'll surely raise the question again. Thanks you all for helping, on and off list. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 06:33:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543D11065677 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:33:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86AB8FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:33:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA56Xk5N027920 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:33:46 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:33:45 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105170631.O70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Subject: Apache environment variables - logical AND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:33:49 -0000 I know this isn't FreeBSD specific - but I am, so crave your indulgence. Running Apache 1.3.27, using a fairly extensive access.conf to beat off the most rapacious robots and such, using mostly BrowserMatch[NoCase] and SetEnvIf to moderate access to several virtual hosts. No problem. OR conditions are of course straighforward: SetEnvIf somevar SetEnvIf somevar SetEnvIf !somevar What I can't figure out is how to set a variable3 if and only if both variable1 AND variable2 are set. Eg: SetEnvIf Referer "^$" no_referer SetEnvIf User-Agent "^$" no_browser I want the equivalent for this (invalid and totally fanciful) match: SetEnvIf (no_browser AND no_referer) go_away Any clues? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 07:27:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994E21065677 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:27:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4506B8FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bKRA1a0050QuhwU59KTun7; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:27:54 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bKTt1a0062P6wsM3NKTt1g; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:27:54 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DpYL8BXZZmYA:10 a=hTXgk7_0KgIA:10 a=D58XV3euAAAA:8 a=yuk-rqkyAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=GAcX4u8q0yL7CmJsUrwA:9 a=TzEJ67Ijp-oi7zNd700VHlSEoAIA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E87D8C9439; Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:27:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 23:27:52 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20081105072752.GA4079@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081105170631.O70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105170631.O70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache environment variables - logical AND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:27:55 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:33:45PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > I know this isn't FreeBSD specific - but I am, so crave your indulgence. > > Running Apache 1.3.27, using a fairly extensive access.conf to beat off > the most rapacious robots and such, using mostly BrowserMatch[NoCase] > and SetEnvIf to moderate access to several virtual hosts. No problem. > > OR conditions are of course straighforward: > > SetEnvIf somevar > SetEnvIf somevar > SetEnvIf !somevar > > What I can't figure out is how to set a variable3 if and only if both > variable1 AND variable2 are set. Eg: > > SetEnvIf Referer "^$" no_referer > SetEnvIf User-Agent "^$" no_browser > > I want the equivalent for this (invalid and totally fanciful) match: > > SetEnvIf (no_browser AND no_referer) go_away Sounds like a job for mod_rewrite. The SetEnvIf stuff is such a hack. This is what we use on our production servers (snipped to keep it short): RewriteEngine on RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^XXXX: [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.somethingawful.com/ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.fark.com/ [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Alexibot [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^asterias [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BackDoorBot [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Black.Hole [NC,OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WWWOFFLE [OR] RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Xaldon.WebSpider RewriteRule ^.* - [F,L] You need to keep something in mind however: blocking by user agent is basically worthless these days. Most "leeching" tools now let you spoof the user agent to show up as Internet Explorer, essentially defeating the checks. If you're that concerned about bandwidth (which is why a lot of people do the above), consider rate-limiting. It's really, quite honestly, the only method that is fail-safe. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 08:28:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DFB106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577D98FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:28:50 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id mA58Sl3K003140; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:28:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:28:47 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Fabian Keil Message-ID: <20081105082847.GA2900@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20081029092516.GA3095@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081030195105.1b5a154d@fabiankeil.de> <20081030192026.GA5498@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20081104173559.2901b14e@fabiankeil.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20081104173559.2901b14e@fabiankeil.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2008 08:28:50.0219 (UTC) FILETIME=[878937B0:01C93F20] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tangoGPS && FreeBSD 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:28:52 -0000 El día Tuesday, November 04, 2008 a las 05:35:59PM +0100, Fabian Keil escribió: > > tangoGPS compiled and works just fine in FreeBSD, just the usual way: > > > > ./configure > > make > > make install > > Good to know. Are you already working on a port? I could and will do that by the end of the year in my free days around the change of the year; > > it needs a gps daemon which is in the ports, and you need some GPS > > device RS232 or USB based and the web pages of gpsd have a long list > > of compatibel devices, for sure not all tested with FreeBSD; will see if > > I could check some out in the near future; > > I was thinking about running tangoGPS on FreeBSD and > connecting it to the gpsd already running on the Freerunner. Yes, this works very nice; but for folks without a FR there should be choices as well, i.e. a small list of GPS gadgets which work with FreeBSD USB drivers; Concerning gpsd running on the FR, I encounter that tangoGPS tries to connect to 127.0.0.1 and not to the configured host 192.168.0.202; you have to press the GPSD button in tangoGPS config page to make it connect to the remote host; will check the sources for this bug/feature... matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 08:58:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E7310656DD for ; 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Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.245.3 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:58:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:58:33 +0700 From: "fire jotawski" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: cvsup: local X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:58:34 -0000 hi sirs, i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip, that cvsup-ed files from repository into it. it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect files. now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files from the one mentioned above. my trial was cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup for box, 10.3.1.25 ip, and for other machine cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file what i got was 'Server message: Unknown collection "src-all" ' message. and later on Running Skipping collection src-all/cvs Skipping collection doc-all/cvs Shutting down connection to server Finished successfully very strange indeed. any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be appreciated. with best regards, psr From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 09:24:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44641065677; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387C08FC20; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA59OGMR033222; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:24:16 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:24:16 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081105072752.GA4079@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081105194002.N70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081105170631.O70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081105072752.GA4079@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Apache environment variables - logical AND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:24:19 -0000 On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:33:45PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > I know this isn't FreeBSD specific - but I am, so crave your indulgence. > > > > Running Apache 1.3.27, using a fairly extensive access.conf to beat off > > the most rapacious robots and such, using mostly BrowserMatch[NoCase] > > and SetEnvIf to moderate access to several virtual hosts. No problem. > > > > OR conditions are of course straighforward: > > > > SetEnvIf somevar > > SetEnvIf somevar > > SetEnvIf !somevar > > > > What I can't figure out is how to set a variable3 if and only if both > > variable1 AND variable2 are set. Eg: > > > > SetEnvIf Referer "^$" no_referer > > SetEnvIf User-Agent "^$" no_browser > > > > I want the equivalent for this (invalid and totally fanciful) match: > > > > SetEnvIf (no_browser AND no_referer) go_away > > Sounds like a job for mod_rewrite. The SetEnvIf stuff is such a hack. It may be a hack, but I've found it an extremely useful one so far. > This is what we use on our production servers (snipped to keep it > short): > > RewriteEngine on > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^XXXX: [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.somethingawful.com/ [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.fark.com/ [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Alexibot [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^asterias [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BackDoorBot [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Black.Hole [NC,OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WWWOFFLE [OR] > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Xaldon.WebSpider > RewriteRule ^.* - [F,L] > > You need to keep something in mind however: blocking by user agent is > basically worthless these days. Most "leeching" tools now let you > spoof the user agent to show up as Internet Explorer, essentially > defeating the checks. While that's true, I've found most of the more troublesome robots are too proud of their 'brand' to spoof user agent, and those that do are a) often consistent enough in their Remote_Addr to exclude by subnet and/or b) often make obvious errors in spoofed User_Agent strings .. especially those pretending to be some variant of MSIE :) > If you're that concerned about bandwidth (which is why a lot of people > do the above), consider rate-limiting. It's really, quite honestly, the > only method that is fail-safe. Thanks Jeremy. Certainly time to take the time to have another look at mod_rewrite, especially regarding redirection, alternative pages etc, but I still tend to glaze over about halfway through all that section. And unless I've completely missed it, your examples don't address my question, being how to AND two or more conditions in a particular test? If I really can't do this with mod_setenvif I'll have to take that time. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 10:17:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBBF1065691 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:17:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8C8E8FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:17:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by QMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bNDx1a0061GhbT857NGL8p; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:16:20 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bNGR1a0082P6wsM3TNGSgu; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:16:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=DpYL8BXZZmYA:10 a=hTXgk7_0KgIA:10 a=D58XV3euAAAA:8 a=yuk-rqkyAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=MF8n0YqrfFzN_X-rveUA:9 a=8g2mXkMZ2R4m8VW8WlwA:7 a=vqzFtL_qmZMyC6O8vyPWbIsufsAA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6199BC943C; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:16:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 02:16:25 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Ian Smith Message-ID: <20081105101625.GA6494@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081105170631.O70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081105072752.GA4079@icarus.home.lan> <20081105194002.N70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105194002.N70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Apache environment variables - logical AND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:17:03 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 08:24:16PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:33:45PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > > I know this isn't FreeBSD specific - but I am, so crave your indulgence. > > > > > > Running Apache 1.3.27, using a fairly extensive access.conf to beat off > > > the most rapacious robots and such, using mostly BrowserMatch[NoCase] > > > and SetEnvIf to moderate access to several virtual hosts. No problem. > > > > > > OR conditions are of course straighforward: > > > > > > SetEnvIf somevar > > > SetEnvIf somevar > > > SetEnvIf !somevar > > > > > > What I can't figure out is how to set a variable3 if and only if both > > > variable1 AND variable2 are set. Eg: > > > > > > SetEnvIf Referer "^$" no_referer > > > SetEnvIf User-Agent "^$" no_browser > > > > > > I want the equivalent for this (invalid and totally fanciful) match: > > > > > > SetEnvIf (no_browser AND no_referer) go_away > > > > Sounds like a job for mod_rewrite. The SetEnvIf stuff is such a hack. > > It may be a hack, but I've found it an extremely useful one so far. > > > This is what we use on our production servers (snipped to keep it > > short): > > > > RewriteEngine on > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^XXXX: [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.somethingawful.com/ [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.fark.com/ [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Alexibot [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^asterias [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BackDoorBot [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Black.Hole [NC,OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WWWOFFLE [OR] > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Xaldon.WebSpider > > RewriteRule ^.* - [F,L] > > > > You need to keep something in mind however: blocking by user agent is > > basically worthless these days. Most "leeching" tools now let you > > spoof the user agent to show up as Internet Explorer, essentially > > defeating the checks. > > While that's true, I've found most of the more troublesome robots are > too proud of their 'brand' to spoof user agent, and those that do are a) > often consistent enough in their Remote_Addr to exclude by subnet and/or > b) often make obvious errors in spoofed User_Agent strings .. especially > those pretending to be some variant of MSIE :) I haven't found this to be true at all, and I've been doing web hosting since 1993. In the past 2-3 years, the amount of leeching tools which spoof their User-Agent has increased dramatically. But step back for a moment and look at it from a usability perspective, because this is what really happens. A user tries to leech a site you host, using FruitBatLeecher, which your Apache server blocks based on User-Agent. The user has no idea why the leech program doesn't work. Does the user simply give up his quest? Absolutely not -- the user then goes and finds BobsBandwidthZilla which pretends to be Internet Explorer, Firefox, or lynx, and downloads the site. Now, if you're trying to block robots/scrapers which aren't honouring robots.txt, oh yes, that almost always works, because those rarely spoof their User-Agent (I think to date I've only seen one site which did that, and it was some Russian search engine). If you feel I'm just doing burn-outs arguing, a la "BSD style", let me give you some insight to how often I deal with this problem: daily. We host a very specific/niche site that contains over 20 years of technical information on the Famicom / Nintendo Entertainment System. The site has hundreds of megabytes of information, and a very active forum. Some jackass comes along and decides "Wow, this has all the info I want!" and fires off a leeching program against the entire domain/vhost. Let's say the program he's using is blocked by our User-Agent blocks; there is a 6-7 minute delay as the user goes off to find another program to leech with, installs it, and attempts it again. Pow, it works, and we find nice huge spikes in our logs for the vhost indicating someone got around it. I later dig through our access_log and find that he tried to use FruitBatLeecher, which got blocked, but then 6-7 minutes later came back with a leeching client that spoofs itself as IE. And it gets worse. Many of these leeching programs get stuck in infinite loops when it comes to forum software, so they sit there pounding on the webserver indefinitely. It requires administrator intervention to stop it; in my case, I don't even bother with Apache ACLs, because ~70% of the time the client ignores 403s and keeps bashing away (yes really!) -- I go straight for a pf-based block in a table called . These guys will hit that block for *days* -- that should give you some idea how long they'll let that program run. But it gets worse -- again. Recently, I found two examples of very dedicated leechers. One was an individual out of China (or using Chinese IPs -- take your pick), and another was at an Italian university. These individuals got past the User-Agent blocks, and I caught their leeching software stuck in a loop on the site forum. I blocked their IPs with pf, thinking it would be enough, then went to sleep. I woke up the following evening to find they were back at it again. How? The Chinese individual literally got another IP somehow, in a completely different netblock; possibly a DHCP release/renew, possibly some friend of his, whatever. The Italian university individual was successful in his leech attempts exactly 50% of the time -- because their university used a transparent HTTP proxy that was balanced between two IPs. I had only blocked one of them. Starting to get the picture now? :-) The only effective way to deal with all of this is rate-limiting. I do not advocate "queues" or "buckets", or "dynamic buckets" where each IP is allocated X number of simultaneous sockets, and if they exceed that, they get rate-limited. I also do not advocate "shared queues", where if there are X number of sockets, allow Z amount of bandwidth, but if X is more than, say, 200 sockets, allow Z/2 amount of bandwidth. The tuning is simply not worth it -- people will go to great lengths to screw you. And if your stuff is in a 95th-percentile billing environment, believe me, you DO NOT want to wake up one morning to find that someone has cost you thousands of dollars. Also, I recommend using ipfw dummynet or pf ALTQ for rate-limiting. The few Apache bandwidth-limiting modules I've tried have bizarre side effects. Here's a forum post of mine (on the above site) explaining why we moved away from mod_cband and went with pf ALTQ. http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=4184 > > If you're that concerned about bandwidth (which is why a lot of people > > do the above), consider rate-limiting. It's really, quite honestly, the > > only method that is fail-safe. > > Thanks Jeremy. Certainly time to take the time to have another look at > mod_rewrite, especially regarding redirection, alternative pages etc, > but I still tend to glaze over about halfway through all that section. Yeah, I agree, the mod_rewrite documentation is overwhelming, and that turns a lot of people off. The examples I gave you should allow you to look up each piece of the directive at a time, and once you do that, it'll all make sense. > And unless I've completely missed it, your examples don't address my > question, being how to AND two or more conditions in a particular test? > > If I really can't do this with mod_setenvif I'll have to take that time. You can't do it with mod_setenvif. You can do it with mod_rewrite, because all mod_rewrite rules default to an operator type of "AND". The [OR] you see in my rules is an explicit override for obvious reasons. Open the Apache 1.3 mod_rewrite docs and search for "implicit AND". It'll all make sense then. :-) I hope some of what I've said above gives you something to think about. Hosting environments are a real pain in the ass; when it's "just you and your own personal box" it's easy, but when it's larger scale and involves users (customers or friends, doesn't matter), it's a totally different game. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 12:23:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEE8106567C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rihad@mail.ru) Received: from mx28.mail.ru (mx28.mail.ru [194.67.23.67]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB01C8FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:23:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rihad@mail.ru) Received: from mx34.mail.ru (mx34.mail.ru [194.67.23.200]) by mx28.mail.ru (mPOP.Fallback_MX) with ESMTP id 6CBA277A762 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:13:17 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [217.25.27.27] (port=46291 helo=[217.25.27.27]) by mx34.mail.ru with asmtp id 1KxgK3-000AW0-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:13:15 +0300 Message-ID: <49117FCA.5030107@mail.ru> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:13:14 +0400 From: rihad User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.14eol (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam: Not detected X-Mras: OK Subject: Asynchronous pipe I/O X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rihad@mail.ru List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:23:09 -0000 Imagine this shell pipeline: sh prog1 | sh prog2 As given above, prog1 blocks if prog2 hasn't yet read previously written data (actually, newline separated commands) or is busy. What I want is for prog1 to never block: sh prog1 | buffer | sh prog2 I first thought that the aptly named misc/buffer port would do exactly what I wanted: buffering prog1 output for prog2 to read it at its earliest convenience. That way prog1 would never block (unless it hit buffer's memory limits). Alas, misc/buffer was originally designed for tape backups, and despite its author's stating its applicability to other uses: "This is a program designed initially to speed up writing tapes on remote tape drives, but may be used as a general pipe buffering utility." buffer never starts writing unless the limit given by -s is crossed, which is 10 kbytes by default and cannot be less than 496 bytes, which is too much for me. Ideally I want it to start writing immediately, whenever new data hits its pools. Unfortunately, the -p 0 option doesn't work either: -s size Size in bytes of each block. The default blocksize is 10k to match the normal output of the tar(1) program. -p percentage Only start a write when the given percentage of the internal queue is full. A percentage around 75 often proves best. Defaults to zero. Wouldn't such an intermediary tool be a great way to boost performance for certain types of solutions? Thanks for any tips (Sorry if this was an inappropriate place to ask) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 12:23:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23801065687 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:23:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) Received: from mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au (mx05.syd.iprimus.net.au [210.50.30.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527E18FC1D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alasdair@iprimus.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAAkfEUk6svw+/2dsb2JhbADBGQGLJoJYAXo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,550,1220191200"; d="scan'208";a="153493829" Received: from 62.146.dsl.syd.iprimus.net.au (HELO localhost) ([58.178.252.62]) by smtp05.syd.iprimus.net.au with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 23:23:36 +1100 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:25:14 +1100 From: Alasdair Reed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105112514.GB104@paxpc1.localhost.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: X session over LAN errors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:23:39 -0000 --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am trying to open an X session over a LAN, the connection via ssh works f= ine however I get an error message when I try to open an X application on= the remote machine debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA debug1: Authentication succeeded (publickey). debug1: channel 0: new [client-session] debug1: Entering interactive session. debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing. Last login: Wed Nov 5 10:29:41 2008 from 192.168.0.6 NetBSD 3.0.1 (GENERIC) #0: Thu Jul 13 23:43:47 UTC 2006 Welcome to NetBSD! $ xclock -d debug1: client_input_channel_open: ctype x11 rchan 3 win 65536 max 16384 debug1: client_request_x11: request from ::1 65447 debug1: channel 1: new [x11] debug1: confirm x11 X Error of failed request: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id in failed request: 0x5c Serial number of failed request: 1 Current serial number in output stream: 3 debug1: channel 1: FORCE input drain debug1: channel 1: free: x11, nchannels 2 The client machine, 192.168.0.6 has the following version of X installed X -version X.Org X Server 1.4.0 Release Date: 5 September 2007 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE i386=20 Current Operating System: FreeBSD localhost 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #= 0: Sun Aug 24 09:27:22 EST 2008 alasdair@localhost:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys= /MYKERNELIPFW i386 Build Date: 01 April 2008 04:41:15PM =20 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present The server machine, 192.168.0.3 has this installed $ X -version XFree86 Version 4.5.0 Release Date: 16 March 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System:NetBSD/i386 3.0.1 - The NetBSD Foundation, Inc. Current Operating System: NetBSD paxpc1.localhost.net 3.0.1 NetBSD 3.0.1 (G= ENERIC) #0: Thu Jul 13 23:43:47 UTC 2006 builds@b3.netbsd.org:/home/builds= /ab/netbsd-3-0-1-RELEASE/i386/200607131826Z-obj/home/builds/ab/netbsd-3-0-1= -RELEASE/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC i386 Build Date: 13 July 2006 Before reporting problems, check http://www.XFree86.Org/ to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Command line: X -version Searching the error messages was not very helpful, it seemed like X could g= ive out these messages for quite a number of reasons none of the available = posts seemed to fit my problem. My windows manager is xmonad-0.7_2=20 Any clues? Thanks in advance, Alasdair --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (NetBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkRgpkACgkQ2U0fMC9WKh6XzQCfR9F+TGtjyrzmWSsJZulk49Gc LWEAn1w2DxA0gPRlaBK7XN2LalzYzmCp =R3iS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 12:44:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C72EA106567B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephenf22@googlemail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C0448FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:44:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephenf22@googlemail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so3781042wfg.7 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:44:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=4l6byvQD9+TO8f3ZY9dq+cokSD2CkXcX/SDhk1JKm5g=; b=FFEdwSMpHmLLwL73eNa5113SmLoFbYRypnL3dhHCD9SguMvetRv9wFI0cXX8H1wOG6 M56jGpDzPXL7b39YXxLuIj830VHhEO5ah353kZPAZG0fMtr68Etyqtph6E4Hydk7KOF8 OPTnLbuzYYb7DpLpKVNTEx1UwzRXB+WkV48Eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=GZgM7pk83RTVVPHoBMFDmd2IuSHtcmL+bjjqNF1FiScIzn8IGmWeENsiPv5qo6Qpj1 emmeJ0Mt7f5iGAiFq9N9gIssxpnCCwXi1bstQdkwTe0qPv8F29fgvMMUWufholX9uk8/ TUBiqLWR2IYIZBaV3vvv0cgz4jbv9hY9tqduU= Received: by 10.142.179.7 with SMTP id b7mr419986wff.128.1225887690541; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 04:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.239.5 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 04:21:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41b6ede20811050421u76ec9a1bjb5da897090f20fc4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:21:30 +0000 From: "stephen farrell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: uhub0: device problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:44:31 -0000 Hi, first off I'm new to FreeBSD so be gentle! :) I seem to be having problems with a HP 7260 usb printer. Cups is installed and setup correctly following the Handbook method but i'm finding that the uhub is getting disabled, stalling and timing out. I have reproduced the same results on my other system. Both systems are running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE & GENERIC kernel. The error message from dmesg is: uhub0: device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 1 I do not have any issues with usb mouse or keyboards. Is this a known issue or can i rectify the problem at all. Would be grateful for some help as i am new to this level of configuration. Gratefully Stephen. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 12:53:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4F81065691 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F298FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:53:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 22430 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2008 12:53:25 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail4.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Nov 2008 12:53:25 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF48C5083C; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id BC25E1CFCB; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:20 -0500 (EST) To: "Popof Popof" References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> <584820.36562.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <9196e72b0811041507l1714614fw7b4bc8c2b901c763@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:53:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9196e72b0811041507l1714614fw7b4bc8c2b901c763@mail.gmail.com> (Popof Popof's message of "Wed\, 5 Nov 2008 00\:07\:48 +0100") Message-ID: <44skq69vwf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:53:26 -0000 "Popof Popof" writes: > The kernel used is a GENERIC one from 6.0. > > / is mounted but in read-only mode and I can use it in single user mode. > The mount command has been created on October 26 2008 and I hadn't start my > laptop since one year so I'm sure that this comes from my update. Yes, you do seem to have made a mess of your system, all right. If you hadn't used the machine lately anyway, you might find it easier to start from "scratch" (wipe out the installation and start over). But hopefully not. > Using mount command manually failed: > > >> #mount -w /dev/ad0s2a / >> mount option is unknown >> mount: /dev/ad0s2a > > > My fstab file contains > > /dev/ad0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 >> > > but ad0s2a is in ro mode as show mount output > > /dev/ados2a on / (ufs, local, read-only) At least the device names seem to be the same. This might be something silly and minor. You can boot from CD (or floppy, flash drive, etc.) to edit the file, and try to edit the file. Remember that you need a newline at the end of the fstab file, and strange characters can confuse it. > > 2008/11/4 mdh > >> --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Popof Popof wrote: >> > From: Popof Popof >> > Subject: Unable to mount / in read - write mode >> > To: "FreeBSD Questions" >> > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 1:57 PM >> > Hi, >> > I recently tried to update my FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 7.0. >> > I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always >> > booting on the 6.0 >> > kernel. >> > The problem is that I have an error during boot process: >> > >> > mount option is unknown >> > > mount: /dev/ad0s2a : Invalid argument >> > > Mounting root filesystem rw failed, startup aborted >> > > Boot interrupted >> > >> > >> > Its seems that tools have correctly upgraded (man mount let >> > me see that I >> > use the FreeBSD 7 version of mount) but not the kernel. >> > >> > Does someone has an idea to allow me to use my filesystem >> > in read write mode >> > ? >> >> This seems to be a problem with the mount command. Why do you feel the >> kernel may be at fault? If the kernel can get to mount, then it has >> obviously already mounted / (though possibly in read-only mode, which is >> something you should let us know...) >> There is also not necessarily a corrolation between a man page and the >> actual binary. Check the binary's modification time and such for better >> detail here. Beyond that, try running the mount command manually from the >> command line after booting from a CD or in single-user mode, if single-user >> mode works. >> >> - mdh >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 13:02:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E780106567D for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5878FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:02:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robin@reportlab.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so1898672ugs.39 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.27.3 with SMTP id e3mr3524539ugj.74.1225890147610; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:02:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.3? (host-82-44-127-245.static.telewest.net [82.44.127.245]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o24sm4746379ugd.31.2008.11.05.05.02.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:02:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49119963.5070104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:02:27 +0000 From: Robin Becker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: gcc 3.4.4 -fno-gcse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:02:29 -0000 I'm trying to do some benchmarks for a new/improved version of CPython and would like to know if gcc 3.4.4 as distributed with FreeBSD 6.1 handles the -fno-gcse option reasonably. I looked in the man page, but don't see that option explicitly so perhaps the main thrust of the optimisation approach is going wrong. -- Robin Becker From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 13:06:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E8021065673 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.232]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB408FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so3600205rvf.43 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:06:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KjNxTJKUmr5j81bP1TOrai1sm6OpRR5CHBMBJyij1B0=; b=BCmVzQmzsxGvkMoLaoPCBezCEcTcYETPFb6EJncE5mEIrZPerpSgPGDsz6jfpS+/OP nwdi0xp2FFXVKZWts17ShSFvJsSSRZHCSLtIkIVFxW8dxj6SmWa9oncr885uiJiZLpAI h7Ua7U9R44Ejx9eVejoQbHCVoP4lz8nHbtZzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=UT+Pt6AgaENJ4EWJm5ehCXLgQqJmoB2GCQQN6B3l1RRbZzV92D3fVhYQQOwwmNW+HL PkD+rjEceCBJVUmsUAVE2Z04huxWcqSJVhawfnOmB3UWSU0i75Ht6ogBPNNC+ervMKk7 qN8fObA3qsFkuLANCkXSAibo6mIHPqfmPAUPE= Received: by 10.141.179.5 with SMTP id g5mr383940rvp.53.1225890374845; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:06:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:06:14 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: <6325A1EC2612A377A50F6576@ganymede.hub.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6325A1EC2612A377A50F6576@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:06:15 -0000 That's strange, because I enabled the reporting on my system but its CPU that wasn't on the list didn't appear. Gabriel 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Gabriel Lavoie > wrote: > > > When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? > > real-time ... and they aren't "for all time", the #s are based on systems > reporting in over the past 60 days, so you will periodically see a bit of > back > tracking, depending on when in the cycle hosts reported in ... if I reload > the > page a few times, I may see it go from 25 013 -> 25 103 -> 25 143 -> 25 140 > ... > but the overall is an upward increase in numbers ... > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gabriel > > > > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier > > > >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: > >> > >> On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier (scrappy@hub.org > ) > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install > /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats > >>>> to set things up. > >>>> > >>> > >>> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too > >>> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had > >>> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats > >>> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the > >>> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am > >>> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just > >>> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the > >>> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going > >>> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to > >>> ignore it. > >>> > >> > >> There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original > script > >> only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using > >> laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they > would > >> be counted also ... > >> > >> And you are correct, just change: > >> > >> bsdstats_enable="YES" > >> > >> to > >> > >> bsdstats_enable="NO" > >> > >> And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at > a > >> minimum, you just need: > >> > >> monthly_statistics_enable="YES" > >> > >> in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the > >> devices/ports reports ... > >> > >> ---- > >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services ( > http://www.hub.org > >> ) > >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . > scrappy@hub.org > >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Gabriel Lavoie > > glavoie@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > - -- > Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org > ) > Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . scrappy@hub.org > Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) > > iEYEARECAAYFAkkRHfcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMP1gCfWcuWqCGNWSR5HuGSO4vgRwLb > Y0EAn3+Pi3/1+eM/mxmKFrF7AFTMQBbv > =yRDb > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 13:24:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F901065687 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:24:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from mail.callooh.com (chello062178170039.13.14.vie.surfer.at [62.178.170.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F948FC41 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) Received: from jadzia.intern.creative.co.at (fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.callooh.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA5DOVhd071021 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:24:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tequnix@frogmi.net) X-Authentication-Warning: lyekka.home.callooh.com: Host fw2.creative.co.at [193.81.98.66] claimed to be jadzia.intern.creative.co.at Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:24:31 +0100 From: tequnix@frogmi.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105142431.5e18d988@jadzia.intern.creative.co.at> In-Reply-To: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> References: <200811031138.38016.tabthorpe@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-DCC-EATSERVER-Metrics: lyekka.home.callooh.com 1166; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94/8571/Wed Nov 5 12:25:50 2008 on lyekka.home.callooh.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (mail.callooh.com [62.178.170.39]); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:24:33 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Is KDE4 usable on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:24:36 -0000 Am Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:38:30 -0400 schrieb Thomas Abthorpe : > I submit to the court of pulic opinion that KDE4 *IS* stable on FreeBSD. I > would encourage you to check out the following resources while it may be supposed to be stable - it is, in my opinion, unusable. i tried to use it for several months now, and yesterday got happily divorced - our cohabitation did last for more than 8 years - and turned to xfce4. most annoying behaviour was: - used to freeze the desktop, panels, window-manager completely after ldap-server went away, no matter how long it was unreachable (i.e. a restart was enough). i think this has something to do with nsswitch.conf/libnss_ldap and dbus .. but xfce also use dbus, and here are no freezes .. - on my old (pentium3 i think) workstation at work, it used to freeze desktop etc. completely, as soon as the system load went above ~1.5, due to compiling e.g., now with xfce there is a notable slowdown, but it is still possible to work - after starting a java swing or applet application, desktop etc. freezes for several minutes - after browser hung due to flash/npviewer.bin problem, desktop etc. freezes for several minutes - startup took as long as it usually only takes for windoze systems (several minutes) conclusion: it was no longer possible to work, that is why i regard kde4 as completely unusable, at least on older systems. br, reinhard -- Save yourself! 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 13:50:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50291065679 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:50:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FEE8FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:50:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so4467736fkk.11 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:50:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=SbVPdnp+t1iIITeLoy/jvY/c7ByNujif4sc1PX54WwU=; b=sfJwPp/L6knl7U9MDBACPQeCHUlgnZkQ6d3bQQjYMdWOitW3P3nrB63uP79RO1TnAi 4+Bxv2U8KfHwQnMz2xUUje6BkR/L/xGBW8ltvnOlRZSrz90lrfec//7rXazPyv/KBfmK jrDhLu/JNMzMbQKYhGxu2C9k673SxzV+y5gGQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QwIghqxrtyFPrdrWxExcmAGEjcqyfdvgkg9VPP3wZ3Wmye64h/duB7K9hPGF68W8HS i7cX0eLVGsZ8tG+HYowPxVYPR1IlJcLa+GOkRJYimLGRcLeQ9kic6b+1kunswG7g/iz+ CLolL3gd5IcgiQ4cYUPvODTZ0eBpgDATccVZ0= Received: by 10.180.214.13 with SMTP id m13mr269339bkg.157.1225893005513; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.219.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:50:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9196e72b0811050550l57360e0fj7e66bf75ce3dda9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:50:05 +0100 From: "Popof Popof" Sender: popofnewslists@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <44skq69vwf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> <584820.36562.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <9196e72b0811041507l1714614fw7b4bc8c2b901c763@mail.gmail.com> <44skq69vwf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 92df56e092670d21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:50:08 -0000 I can't install FreeBSD 7 from scratch because this is a laptop and the CD drive is dead. Also as this is a laptop I don't have any floopy drive. I have found this thread talking about the same problem: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/current/2006-01/msg00095.html But the /rescue/mount command didn't help me. Does fstab file for a FreeBSD 6.0 and 7.0 are different ? I think yes because before upgrading there were no problem to boot. I also tried to use the mount command in order to get my drive in write mode but it's failed. Is there something to do in order to mount it correctly just one time in order to modify my fstab file ? 2008/11/5 Lowell Gilbert > "Popof Popof" writes: > > > The kernel used is a GENERIC one from 6.0. > > > > / is mounted but in read-only mode and I can use it in single user mode. > > The mount command has been created on October 26 2008 and I hadn't start > my > > laptop since one year so I'm sure that this comes from my update. > > Yes, you do seem to have made a mess of your system, all right. > If you hadn't used the machine lately anyway, you might find it easier > to start from "scratch" (wipe out the installation and start over). > But hopefully not. > > > Using mount command manually failed: > > > > > >> #mount -w /dev/ad0s2a / > >> mount option is unknown > >> mount: /dev/ad0s2a > > > > > > My fstab file contains > > > > /dev/ad0s2a / ufs rw 1 1 > >> > > > > but ad0s2a is in ro mode as show mount output > > > > /dev/ados2a on / (ufs, local, read-only) > > At least the device names seem to be the same. > > This might be something silly and minor. You can boot from CD (or > floppy, flash drive, etc.) to edit the file, and try to edit the > file. Remember that you need a newline at the end of the fstab file, > and strange characters can confuse it. > > > > > 2008/11/4 mdh > > > >> --- On Tue, 11/4/08, Popof Popof wrote: > >> > From: Popof Popof > >> > Subject: Unable to mount / in read - write mode > >> > To: "FreeBSD Questions" > >> > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 1:57 PM > >> > Hi, > >> > I recently tried to update my FreeBSD 6.0 to FreeBSD 7.0. > >> > I don't know where but I made a mistake and I am always > >> > booting on the 6.0 > >> > kernel. > >> > The problem is that I have an error during boot process: > >> > > >> > mount option is unknown > >> > > mount: /dev/ad0s2a : Invalid argument > >> > > Mounting root filesystem rw failed, startup aborted > >> > > Boot interrupted > >> > > >> > > >> > Its seems that tools have correctly upgraded (man mount let > >> > me see that I > >> > use the FreeBSD 7 version of mount) but not the kernel. > >> > > >> > Does someone has an idea to allow me to use my filesystem > >> > in read write mode > >> > ? > >> > >> This seems to be a problem with the mount command. Why do you feel the > >> kernel may be at fault? If the kernel can get to mount, then it has > >> obviously already mounted / (though possibly in read-only mode, which is > >> something you should let us know...) > >> There is also not necessarily a corrolation between a man page and the > >> actual binary. Check the binary's modification time and such for better > >> detail here. Beyond that, try running the mount command manually from > the > >> command line after booting from a CD or in single-user mode, if > single-user > >> mode works. > >> > >> - mdh > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area > http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:00:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25C0106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) Received: from smssmtp.cbord.com (mx1.cbord.com [24.39.174.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803088FC21 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:00:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rvm@CBORD.com) X-AuditID: ac1f0165-00000ff800000220-19-4911a7126af3 Received: from Email.cbord.com ([10.1.1.100]) by smssmtp.cbord.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:00:50 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:00:00 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9196e72b0811050550l57360e0fj7e66bf75ce3dda9f@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Unable to mount / in read - write mode Thread-Index: Ack/TUuYesaeTzQgQCG0erPc6JqoCgAAStog References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com><584820.36562.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com><9196e72b0811041507l1714614fw7b4bc8c2b901c763@mail.gmail.com><44skq69vwf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9196e72b0811050550l57360e0fj7e66bf75ce3dda9f@mail.gmail.com> From: "Bob McConnell" To: "Popof Popof" , "FreeBSD Questions" X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: Subject: RE: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:00:57 -0000 On Behalf Of Popof Popof > I can't install FreeBSD 7 from scratch because this is a > laptop and the CD drive is dead. > Also as this is a laptop I don't have any floopy drive. Any chance you have a docking station for that laptop with a NIC that supports PXE? Could you do a network boot and install? Bob McConnell From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:12:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75994106567E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AB28FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:12:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21206AFC1C6; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 05:12:14 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:11:47 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> <44skq69vwf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9196e72b0811050550l57360e0fj7e66bf75ce3dda9f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9196e72b0811050550l57360e0fj7e66bf75ce3dda9f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811051511.48613.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Popof Popof Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:12:15 -0000 On Wednesday 05 November 2008 14:50:05 Popof Popof wrote: > I can't install FreeBSD 7 from scratch because this is a laptop and the CD > drive is dead. Is it possible you installed the base system (make installworld), without having installed the kernel (make installkernel)? If that's the case, without an external drive or backups, your options to get a working system again are very very slim. The only two things I can think of that would work, is an usb memory card with the 6.x mount command on it, that you'd run to remount / rw and take it from there. Or a bootable memory card with 7.x kernel. However, it would help a lot if you could give a bit more information: - how does the kernel identify your disk (drive letters and numbers)? - Can you capture anything like a verbose boot or dmesg? - Output of `mount -a -d -v' command - How you determined your upgrade went wrong and you "run 6.x". -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187FF1065675 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B704B8FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bSb71a0020xGWP854Sbllq; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:35:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bSbM1a00m4Mx3R23YSbal3; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:35:43 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=pQs5aej7AAAA:8 a=H1wYKUEtKR-fyYCwARwA:9 a=v834ufeY9Y5JsuhdG9cA:7 a=AZJ5skkZ7HvQPrWMtMU94M4ssQEA:4 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=ufO146cb3fEA:10 Message-ID: <4911AF29.6070707@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:35:21 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mikhail Teterin , questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.org References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <20081028181731.GA30591@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:35:46 -0000 Steve Polyack wrote: > Juergen Lock wrote: >> >> Preliminary checklist for getting flash9 to work in native firefox: >> (flash10 needs more ports work, I shall post about that seperately on >> -emulation...) If you have additions to this please post a followup to >> this thread, keeping the Cc: (I'm not on -questions...) >> >> 1. You need RELENG_7 from at least Mon Oct 20 11:15:57 2008 UTC >> (the relevant MFC commits are: >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=183819 >> http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=184075 >> - a recent HEAD should also work of course.) There are linprocfs >> patches >> for RELENG_6 too (merging the former commit), but the latter commit >> can't >> be merged to 6 (and 7.0) since they lack the cpuset bits, so flash9 >> probably won't work on SMP there. (Although if you have SMP you >> probably >> should be running 7 anyway. :) Oh and if you do have SMP you also >> need to >> use the ULE scheduler, the cpuset syscalls are not supported with 4BSD. >> linprocfs patches for 6: >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.3.patch >> http://people.freebsd.org/~nox/linprocfs-6.4.patch >> >> 2. Your portstree needs to be from at least Sun Oct 19 17:37:28 2008 UTC >> (the last www/linux-flashplugin9 commit is: >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2008-October/158404.html >> >> ) >> >> 3. Make sure linprocfs is mounted to /compat/linux/proc . >> >> 4. Make sure www/nspluginwrapper, www/linux-flashplugin9 and >> dependencies >> are installed and up to date(!). (the default emulators/linux_base-fc4 >> should work, if you want to use a later one don't forget to set >> compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.16 in sysctl.conf and >> OVERRIDE_LINUX_BASE_PORT >> to whichever version you use in make.conf. Note however that on 6, only >> the default compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2 really works.) >> >> 5. If the plugin doesnt show up in firefox' about:plugins, run >> nspluginwrapper -i >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> and restart firefox. >> >> 6. And remember there's a security advisory for the current version of >> flash9, >> http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/78f456fd-9c87-11dd-a55e-00163e000016.html >> >> (if you use portaudit you need to `make -DDISABLE_VULNERABILITIES ...' >> to be able to install the port), and fc4 seems to be eol'd too, so you >> probably want to install something like the noscript firefox extension, >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722 >> and only allow plugins (and scripts, tho thats a different problem) on >> sites you trust... >> >> And finally, if you still get crashes after following the above even >> on pages that are reported to work now (like youtube) you probably want >> to run `ktrace -di firefox...' and look at the output using linux_kdump >> (thats the devel/linux_kdump port, you want to use a package), paying >> specific attention to the lines above `PSIG SIGSEGV' (or whichever >> signal you got), maybe there are still shlibs missing that the plugin >> needs (NAMI ...something.so...), and if this is the case tell us about >> it so the appropriate dependencies can be added to the relevant ports. >> If you can't figure it out I guess it doesn't hurt to post the last >> few 100 lines of the dump up to the relevant PSIG on -emulation... >> >> You may also want to check linked shlibs like this: >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd >> /usr/local/lib/npapi/linux-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so >> and >> /compat/linux/bin/sh /compat/linux/usr/bin/ldd >> /usr/local/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin >> (if you see `not found' in there you know something is wrong) - although >> that doesn't show libs that may be dlopen()d at runtime. >> >> > Thanks for this. I was able to get linux-flashplugin9 working in > native Firefox 3.0.3 on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386. The only additional > thing I had to do was copy > /usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so into > ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for Firefox to recognize the plugin. After that > Youtube, google video, and google maps (incl. street view) work fine, > but slow. A friend of mine with a very similar setup was not so lucky > and still has problems with flash9 locking up FF. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > So I've done some more testing of this with various linux_base-* installs. Youtube and most things (google maps) work with sound just fine for a few seconds, but after trying to interact or letting them go for a few minute they begin to rapidly eat up main memory. npviewer.bin's usage will top out somewhere around 300-450MB before it core dumps: pid 77684 (npviewer.bin), uid 1042: exited on signal 11 (core dumped). This is on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386 (as of Tue Oct 28) with native Firefox 3.0.3 still. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:37:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42BB8106567B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:37:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A6628FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 27922 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2008 14:37:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.136.88) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 5 Nov 2008 14:37:36 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4DF971704A; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 01:37:36 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 01:37:36 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Robin Becker Message-ID: <20081105143736.GA2880@ozzmosis.com> References: <49119963.5070104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49119963.5070104@chamonix.reportlab.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gcc 3.4.4 -fno-gcse X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:37:40 -0000 On Wed 2008-11-05 13:02:27 UTC+0000, Robin Becker (robin@reportlab.com) wrote: > I'm trying to do some benchmarks for a new/improved version of CPython > and would like to know if gcc 3.4.4 as distributed with FreeBSD 6.1 > handles the -fno-gcse option reasonably. I looked in the man page, but > don't see that option explicitly so perhaps the main thrust of the > optimisation approach is going wrong. I don't know about FreeBSD 6.1's gcc 3.4.4, but the info page for gcc 3.4.6 (supplied with FreeBSD 6.3) explicitly mentions -fno-gcse. It's under the section "3.10 Options That Control Optimization". $ info gcc option will also find it. Not sure if that helps you at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:43:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BC4106567B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:43:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (www.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1058FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:43:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: (qmail 53042 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2008 14:16:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.22?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@222.165.35.106) by www.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2008 14:16:58 -0000 Message-ID: <4911AADB.3060202@extracktor.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:16:59 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [mod_mono] how to install from freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:43:34 -0000 Hi guys, I'm sorry if this isn't the best place to ask the question, but it's the most active freebsd mailing list, so I hope to try my luck here. I'm using 7.0, and I've installed mono and apache22 from the packages (pkg_add -r xxx). Now I need to find mod_mono to complete the pieces. Trouble is, I don't see it available from the ports tree. Can any kind soul assist? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:52:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C0A106568B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA4EF8FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:52:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id b20so11001rvf.31 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr158660wai.4.1225896726343; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0016e64bddfee7b2b6045af25294@google.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to upgrade to KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:52:06 -0000 Hi, I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-p11 (yes, I've got to update). A couple days ago I updated my ports tree and went to update kde 3.5.6. At first I did a portupgrade on the KDE meta-port but, ironically, the only thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). I should also say that I first looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING and there weren't any particular instructions (that I could find) for updating KDE. I opened the file in vim and searched for "kde" and "KDE." On both searches, nothing regarding the specific update of 3.5.x to 4.x was mentioned. I'm having some problems updating the kdebase package now (since the meta-port didn't update the whole thing, I'm updating individually to 3.5.10). It's having some compile time issues, something about an identifier not existing in a particular namespace or some-such error, I've got to look into it further. However, since I'm going through this loathsome process anyway, would it be advisable to just do a "deinstall" of the kde system and cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde (I think that's where it is) and install 4.x (if that's even how to do it)? I would really prefer to run 4.x. Thanks for any help, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:56:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259E8106567A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:56:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB918FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from popofnewslists@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so25018fgb.35 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:56:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=LMlerkt8e+mNNBIsM2Zumip2ti2d+pSlJfdteR2xfDc=; b=k882xP7gkTBSbpitwjx362Nr9Fkcwbmoo//HGPbamgRksIdqM4tV1Sp9zfHPDpvDfa UBGHjMQx9sQH21ifWvPubyc7AE+ZrBxqIXQJbee/VT42n+Qw8+9OqiMPLRj2h2x2xDbQ FkvVgG4AMfeHEmC7UmYjvhT9vxe2XgLE3+vZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=yHd3i162NQ9VmR2KdTGBzzHV27imlnJura0aLpH91LvTshkPSObzl5GvTgMbPQvcSH A+HFmrO5QZzbXu25iaCE3Nd4ojKqZMtAooDs6nRAAL7eoUFf3EugtAbXNZoKo4D0Hpbi 1qENr3q8WRle6+zIrjUi9+1cio8Hv4VTG4qLA= Received: by 10.181.52.14 with SMTP id e14mr298016bkk.47.1225896974170; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:56:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.219.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:56:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9196e72b0811050656l345793b9j4ca4b3e7cb0ed3ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:56:14 +0100 From: "Popof Popof" Sender: popofnewslists@gmail.com To: "FreeBSD Questions" In-Reply-To: <200811051511.48613.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9196e72b0811041057m7d33e3fap9a15246def6eb3a2@mail.gmail.com> <44skq69vwf.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> <9196e72b0811050550l57360e0fj7e66bf75ce3dda9f@mail.gmail.com> <200811051511.48613.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e8740a0f017838e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Unable to mount / in read - write mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:56:16 -0000 My laptop has a bootable NIC but I would like to avoid a network installation. I think that I forget to make the installkernel step. I can say that I'm using kernel 6.0 thanks to the output at the start of boot process. I have another old box with a FreeBSD 6.0 kernel so I'll try tonight to get the mount command from it to an usb key and try to use it with my laptop. I'll also try to provide dmesg if I can use this usb key in write mode. 2008/11/5 Mel > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 14:50:05 Popof Popof wrote: > > I can't install FreeBSD 7 from scratch because this is a laptop and the > CD > > drive is dead. > > Is it possible you installed the base system (make installworld), without > having installed the kernel (make installkernel)? > If that's the case, without an external drive or backups, your options to > get > a working system again are very very slim. > The only two things I can think of that would work, is an usb memory card > with > the 6.x mount command on it, that you'd run to remount / rw and take it > from > there. Or a bootable memory card with 7.x kernel. > > However, it would help a lot if you could give a bit more information: > - how does the kernel identify your disk (drive letters and numbers)? > - Can you capture anything like a verbose boot or dmesg? > - Output of `mount -a -d -v' command > - How you determined your upgrade went wrong and you "run 6.x". > > -- > Mel > > Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules > and never get to the software part. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 14:37:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C24106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB948FC23 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.173.139]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Nov 2008 06:37:04 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:38:03 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Nov 2008 14:37:05.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[F92162C0:01C93F53] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:58:17 +0000 Cc: Subject: irc & usenet clients for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:37:31 -0000 What irc, pop mail, and usenet clients from gmone or kde or x would you recommend to use on xfce? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 15:22:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3081C106568C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:22:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B5C8FC40 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alive@dienub.org) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id j71so36487rne.12 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.110.9 with SMTP id n9mr1029608ybm.149.1225898520724; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.143.17 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:22:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:22:00 +0100 From: "Rada alive" To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: irc & usenet clients for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:22:02 -0000 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM, FBSD1 wrote: > What irc, pop mail, and usenet clients from gmone or kde or x would you > recommend to use on xfce? > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I suggest irssi or Xchat for IRC, mutt or Thunderbird for mail (The latter for usenet also, idk if mutt supports usenet). irssi and mutt if you like CLI, Xchat and Thunderbird if you like GUI's. But best of all to use is whatever _you_ would recommend somebody to use. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 15:24:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39FF106567C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0188B8FC26 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so23098nfh.33 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:24:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L5ZvMJmI46GADstscl1j80WZwgq4P0/5yWQAjKo6E/o=; b=C5ilxWJ4W5lwS1shxzeUGzlUj1lRCB8L9eNYdz0BtvzGbGyZe9szjYBw8GoSIdHgce zB1aFAaKOlQUMZ72a87ti4TejJPegds6WrETv/UjMIv94TG+bG5maDdIruzkzkUBZQ7v uF7aUSbgOJJxOkALbr3pO9xZTC4MMbgY+g7To= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dnlAnFeZWy6d5eT0rhxVsJABkZjs+AMNgPRKYEPWSf6ME5T4ASPe1MykHk/mpRdW1u oxH+t1CBgX52QjbyGX7czHd2Zaf6Azn9XgTOEqa8HMyzI938mxwRPeo2FH6SXx7se+Qp 4kEUVKpPh01EbFsWE0bsSzJhuEjLxKu39TNlM= Received: by 10.210.72.14 with SMTP id u14mr1080046eba.173.1225898645782; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:24:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-311367.home.otenet.gr [85.72.71.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm51943958nfu.9.2008.11.05.07.24.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:24:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4911BA91.90406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:24:01 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: af300wsm@gmail.com References: <0016e64bddfee7b2b6045af25294@google.com> In-Reply-To: <0016e64bddfee7b2b6045af25294@google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:24:09 -0000 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-p11 (yes, I've got to update). A couple days ago > I updated my ports tree and went to update kde 3.5.6. At first I did a > portupgrade on the KDE meta-port but, ironically, the only thing that > updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). I should also > say that I first looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING and there weren't any > particular instructions (that I could find) for updating KDE. I opened > the file in vim and searched for "kde" and "KDE." On both searches, > nothing regarding the specific update of 3.5.x to 4.x was mentioned. > > I'm having some problems updating the kdebase package now (since the > meta-port didn't update the whole thing, I'm updating individually to > 3.5.10). It's having some compile time issues, something about an > identifier not existing in a particular namespace or some-such error, > I've got to look into it further. However, since I'm going through > this loathsome process anyway, would it be advisable to just do a > "deinstall" of the kde system and cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde (I think > that's where it is) and install 4.x (if that's even how to do it)? I > would really prefer to run 4.x. > > Thanks for any help, > Andy The Handbook has been recently updated with instructions on installing / running KDE4: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html It is also possible to keep both versions installed (since KDE4 installs in a different directory). If you decide to go along this path, I would advise you to set your PATH so that /usr/local/kde4/bin is before /usr/local/bin (when running KDE4). This will prevent inadvertently running kde3.x executables in 4.x. There has been some discussion on the list concerning the usability of KDE4. FWIW, it worked for me but I am not a KDE person anyway (and have only used 3.X a couple of times) and don't need most of the features of such a desktop. YMMV. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 15:29:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A721106567A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:29:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381B18FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:29:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so38217rvf.43 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:29:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3i6H0CuGRAOxLvaUUre1ZQlLV65mIgp4HUVYT/9M5Tw=; b=avcrrVVkWEXPlzPN+sI/xmw4kbRtczVSHQ47+5WifTxgb1kIfqmDdH8g7UWPK9LIaY tYNB9W2K0H4b/v49VwL/4H9v4rh9F/J4mpTWRc3Jt239KXf5MOUaMyw1R2gDCjZEznzP LZZtG5JF3QQd8cMznFKpNmcgYjkqCX8bdhCkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aEUVIfCbXHw5QM8IgbSh60Vuq8yHA0Na10nz4tAA7nbwCO5eeGSeYrElGkaSMPJR/c RTOUT9jgnrcJ7G+vvktoicHW5W/eZc6NP3DobcIRYnhZrYqS4Btt5JU6TeA+FWtB6HkN yWzhb8ofPVpdyEwIop1CQhURc4Kv7QXvKd2is= Received: by 10.140.250.14 with SMTP id x14mr472953rvh.278.1225898980772; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:29:40 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:29:40 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Marc G. Fournier" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6325A1EC2612A377A50F6576@ganymede.hub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDstats: New High Water Mark: 25 000+ Hosts Reporting In X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:29:41 -0000 Good, my system finally appeared. Gabriel 2008/11/5 Gabriel Lavoie > That's strange, because I enabled the reporting on my system but its CPU > that wasn't on the list didn't appear. > > > Gabriel > > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> - --On Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:25:39 -0500 Gabriel Lavoie >> wrote: >> >> > When are the stats updated on bsdstats.org? >> >> real-time ... and they aren't "for all time", the #s are based on systems >> reporting in over the past 60 days, so you will periodically see a bit of >> back >> tracking, depending on when in the cycle hosts reported in ... if I reload >> the >> page a few times, I may see it go from 25 013 -> 25 103 -> 25 143 -> 25 >> 140 ... >> but the overall is an upward increase in numbers ... >> >> >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Gabriel >> > >> > 2008/11/4 Marc G. Fournier >> > >> >> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, andrew clarke wrote: >> >> >> >> On Mon 2008-11-03 18:33:57 UTC-0400, Marc G. Fournier ( >> scrappy@hub.org) >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> For FreeBSD users, you just need to install >> /usr/ports/sysutils/bsdstats >> >>>> to set things up. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> I stopped using bsdstats after it caused my FreeBSD router to take too >> >>> long to boot up after a reboot. If I recall correctly, I had >> >>> bsdstats_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and after the reboot bsdstats >> >>> was called before ppp was able to start, so it couldn't connect to the >> >>> bsdstats server. On the other hand this was a while ago and I am >> >>> going by memory, so I may be wrong about what happened or it was just >> >>> a coincidence. At the time I was more interested in getting the >> >>> router running so I didn't really care for debugging what was going >> >>> on. I realise this is a bit of a vague bug report, so feel free to >> >>> ignore it. >> >>> >> >> >> >> There is an optional flag for 'reporting on reboot' ... the original >> script >> >> only did reporting monthly, out of periodic, but some ppl (ie. using >> >> laptops) suggesting an optional flag so that when they rebooted, they >> would >> >> be counted also ... >> >> >> >> And you are correct, just change: >> >> >> >> bsdstats_enable="YES" >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> bsdstats_enable="NO" >> >> >> >> And 'on reboot' will eb disabled, and only periodic will be used ... at >> a >> >> minimum, you just need: >> >> >> >> monthly_statistics_enable="YES" >> >> >> >> in /etc/periodic.conf, wich will only report OS/version and skip the >> >> devices/ports reports ... >> >> >> >> ---- >> >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services ( >> http://www.hub.org >> >> ) >> >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . >> scrappy@hub.org >> >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Gabriel Lavoie >> > glavoie@gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> >> >> - -- >> Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. ( >> http://www.hub.org) >> Email . scrappy@hub.org MSN . >> scrappy@hub.org >> Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org ICQ . 7615664 >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAkkRHfcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvMP1gCfWcuWqCGNWSR5HuGSO4vgRwLb >> Y0EAn3+Pi3/1+eM/mxmKFrF7AFTMQBbv >> =yRDb >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> > > > -- > Gabriel Lavoie > glavoie@gmail.com > -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 15:34:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F72106567E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmrueda@diatel.upm.es) Received: from edison.ccupm.upm.es (edison.ccupm.upm.es [138.100.4.49]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FCE8FC0C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmrueda@diatel.upm.es) Received: from smtp.euitt.upm.es (acherontia2.euitt.upm.es [138.100.52.79]) by edison.ccupm.upm.es (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA5FEZNG007148 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:14:36 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.euitt.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D8F565C0 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:14:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.euitt.upm.es ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.euitt.upm.es [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 11124) with ESMTP id 0-0GMaeEYL9M for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:14:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from aurora.diatel.upm.es (aurora.diatel.upm.es [138.100.49.70]) (Authenticated sender: jmrueda) by smtp.euitt.upm.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1AE3565BE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:14:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from aurora.diatel.upm.es (aurora.gridat.rpv [172.20.20.6]) by aurora.diatel.upm.es (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA5FEXQC067161 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:14:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jmrueda@diatel.upm.es) Message-ID: <4911B859.6080304@diatel.upm.es> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:14:33 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_Mart=EDn_Rueda?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080514) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4911AADB.3060202@extracktor.com> In-Reply-To: <4911AADB.3060202@extracktor.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [mod_mono] how to install from freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:34:48 -0000 Foo JH wrote: > I'm using 7.0, and I've installed mono and apache22 from the packages > (pkg_add -r xxx). Now I need to find mod_mono to complete the pieces. > Trouble is, I don't see it available from the ports tree. > > I have these notes from some mod_mono installation I did some time ago. I hope they are still valid: I installed mono from the ports. It was just a standard install, so installing from packages should be the same. XSP === * fetch http://go-mono.com/sources/xsp/xsp-1.2.3.tar.gz * configure && gmake && gmake install * Test: mono /usr/local/lib/mono/2.0/xsp2.exe. Open http://myserver:8080 (it will say it cannot find /) * Test 2: copy a web application and open it. It should work. MOD_MONO ======== * fetch http://go-mono.com/sources/mod_mono/mod_mono-1.2.1.tar.gz * configure && gmake && gmake install * mv /usr/local/etc/apache22/mod_mono.conf /usr/local/etc/apache22/Includes * Edit mod_mono.conf and add this: MonoServerPath /usr/local/bin/mod-mono-server2 MonoPath /usr/local/lib/mono/2.0 * Install test application in /somewhere/website and create /usr/local/etc/apache22/Includes/prueba.conf: Alias /prueba "/somewhere/website" MonoApplications "/prueba:/somewhere/website" Allow from all Open http://myserver/prueba and it should work. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 15:35:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33EA7106567C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:35:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B8E8FC27 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:35:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEALBEEUlR93Sx/2dsb2JhbACBd8pyg1M Received: from 177.116-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.247.116.177]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:06:35 +0100 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA5F6T48013545; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:06:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:06:28 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <4911AF29.6070707@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4911AF29.6070707@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811051606.29361.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Steve Polyack Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:35:55 -0000 On Wednesday 05 November 2008 15:35:21 Steve Polyack wrote: > So I've done some more testing of this with various linux_base-* > installs. Youtube and most things (google maps) work with sound just > fine for a few seconds, but after trying to interact or letting them go > for a few minute they begin to rapidly eat up main memory. > npviewer.bin's usage will top out somewhere around 300-450MB before it > core dumps: pid 77684 (npviewer.bin), uid 1042: exited on signal 11 > (core dumped). This is on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386 (as of Tue Oct 28) with > native Firefox 3.0.3 still. Do you have this with linux-firefox? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 15:39:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAACE1065674 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0304.google.com (rv-out-0304.google.com [209.85.198.215]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5B38FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:39:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0304.google.com with SMTP id b20so23704rvf.31 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:39:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.254.1 with SMTP id b1mr169529wai.4.1225899582173; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:39:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0016e64bddfe2035d0045af2fd17@google.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:39:42 -0800 From: af300wsm@gmail.com To: Manolis Kiagias , af300wsm@gmail.com, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:39:42 -0000 On Nov 5, 2008 8:24am, Manolis Kiagias wrote: > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm using FreeBSD 6.2-p11 (yes, I've got to update). A couple days ago I updated my ports tree and went to update kde 3.5.6. At first I did a portupgrade on the KDE meta-port but, ironically, the only thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). I should also say that I first looked in /usr/ports/UPDATING and there weren't any particular instructions (that I could find) for updating KDE. I opened the file in vim and searched for "kde" and "KDE." On both searches, nothing regarding the specific update of 3.5.x to 4.x was mentioned. > > > > I'm having some problems updating the kdebase package now (since the meta-port didn't update the whole thing, I'm updating individually to 3.5.10). It's having some compile time issues, something about an identifier not existing in a particular namespace or some-such error, I've got to look into it further. However, since I'm going through this loathsome process anyway, would it be advisable to just do a "deinstall" of the kde system and cd to /usr/ports/x11/kde (I think that's where it is) and install 4.x (if that's even how to do it)? I would really prefer to run 4.x. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > Andy > > > > > The Handbook has been recently updated with instructions on installing / running KDE4: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11-wm.html > > > > It is also possible to keep both versions installed (since KDE4 installs in a different directory). > > If you decide to go along this path, I would advise you to set your PATH so that /usr/local/kde4/bin is before /usr/local/bin (when running KDE4). This will prevent inadvertently running kde3.x executables in 4.x. > > > > There has been some discussion on the list concerning the usability of KDE4. FWIW, it worked for me but I am not a KDE person anyway (and have only used 3.X a couple of times) and don't need most of the features of such a desktop. YMMV. > That is fantastic, thanks. Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 16:06:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B88D1065691 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:06:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8788FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:06:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6455362; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4911C46A.7020401@kukulies.org> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:06:02 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Al Plant References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Julien Cigar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:06:21 -0000 Christoph Kukulies schrieb: > Hi Al, > > thanks for pointing me to safe mode install. That I will probably try > tomorrow. > The day ended up in havoc: I tried to boot a floppy to do an ASUS BIOS > upgrade and somehow messed with the power cable. > A big flash occurred originating from the power supply. I opened the > power supply, found a blown fuse, ran to the electronics store, bought > a new fuse (+ one in reserve), inserted the fuse, tried the power > supply, with connections off and a firework, prematurely - your > presidential elections aren't finished yet - , developed in front of > my face. Will continue tomorrow, when America has a new president. > Back at the problem: I chose 3. safe mode to no avail. Still get this acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config I even changed the CDROM drive to a very old slow one. I changes IDE busses (first vs. second IDE) to no avail. I'm now gonna burn another medium. No luck yet installing 7.1 BETA2. I'm also a long time FreeBSD user btw, from times where it was called "386bsd" :-) -- Christoph > > -- > Christoph > > Al Plant schrieb: >> Julien Cigar wrote: >>> I've this problem too on almost all my machines. The only solution I've >>> found is to disable DMA (atapi_dma), but then performances are very >>> poor >>> (and I'm still unable to burn a CD/DVD) >>> >>> On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 16:03 +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> don't know whether it's the CDROM drive (a Creative 52x mx) or the >>>> motherboard (ASUS P4S8X) or what. >>>> Anyway, I tried to install a recent version of FreeBSD (7.1-BETA2) >>>> and the installation >>>> hangs right in the boot process of the installation CD disc1. >>>> >>>> I see >>>> >>>> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 >>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for >>>> xpt_config >>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 120 seconds for >>>> xpt_config >>>> run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 180 seconds for >>>> xpt_config >>>> >>>> and so on. >>>> >>>> Any clues? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christoph Kukulies >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> ############ >> >> Aloha, >> >> I have had similiar happen on 7 and 8 Freebsd installs recently. >> >> If you install using safe mode it will work. Then in /boot/loader.conf >> >> #boot/loader.conf >> hw.ata.ata-dma=0 >> hw.ata.atapi_dma=0 >> >> This makes the HD and CD to work for me after the install. >> >> The error that comes up when you burn a CD seems to be bogus as I >> have used the CD's with out error for installing on other boxes. >> From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 16:12:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082F4106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:12:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from edu-smtp-01.edutel.nl (edu-smtp-01.edutel.nl [88.159.1.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 968708FC20 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from Rena.FStaals.net (unknown [88.159.208.104]) by edu-smtp-01.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2187913E239; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:51:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4911C113.4090506@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:51:47 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rada alive References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: irc & usenet clients for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:12:23 -0000 Rada alive wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:38 PM, FBSD1 wrote: > > >> What irc, pop mail, and usenet clients from gmone or kde or x would you >> recommend to use on xfce? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > I suggest irssi or Xchat for IRC, mutt or Thunderbird for mail (The latter > for usenet also, idk if mutt supports usenet). > irssi and mutt if you like CLI, Xchat and Thunderbird if you like GUI's. > I have been using irssi (+bitlbee) for my IRC/IM needs for ages now, works like a charm for me. And thunderbird has been my mail client ever since 0.2. so I'd agree they are nice choises. I haven't used thunderbird for usenet stuff though; I only used usenet for downloading purposes. Used pan as a desktop-solution. Worked fine in my opinion. For a more server-like solution you may want to take a look at SabNZBd. > But best of all to use is whatever _you_ would recommend somebody to use. > _______________________________________________ > > Yep, feel free to try out some stuff but choose whatever *you* think works nice Good luck, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 16:27:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7711065676 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045CB8FC1A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6455388 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:26:52 +0100 Message-ID: <4911C93E.4090803@kukulies.org> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:26:38 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> <4911C46A.7020401@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <4911C46A.7020401@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:27:08 -0000 Christoph Kukulies schrieb: > Christoph Kukulies schrieb: >> Hi Al, >> >> thanks for pointing me to safe mode install. That I will probably try >> tomorrow. >> The day ended up in havoc: I tried to boot a floppy to do an ASUS >> BIOS upgrade and somehow messed with the power cable. >> A big flash occurred originating from the power supply. I opened the >> power supply, found a blown fuse, ran to the electronics store, >> bought a new fuse (+ one in reserve), inserted the fuse, tried the >> power supply, with connections off and a firework, prematurely - your >> presidential elections aren't finished yet - , developed in front of >> my face. Will continue tomorrow, when America has a new president. >> > > Back at the problem: I chose 3. safe mode to no avail. Still get this > > acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 I now tried with a 7.0 BETA Boot CD (which I had laying around from possibly another fruitless attempt in the past to update that system from 5.1 or something to 7.x). Same picture. Hangs on this acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x21 ascq=0x00 (asc=0x21 at this time FWIW). Please help me in getting FreeBSD onto this machine iin whatever way. -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 16:42:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328881065674 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F1B8FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:42:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from korvus@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bUH11a00A0cQ2SLA2UYDXG; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:32:13 +0000 Received: from [192.168.2.164] ([206.210.89.202]) by OMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bURw1a0064Mx3R28WURzho; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:26:07 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=u-HlfQ0Z21QFUSFFwEEA:9 a=W1kgEZEXXFjRt2pTKpUA:7 a=MqVcYvrAcHXjaY05Ia6b5onS2kUA:4 a=9hlq2oIkD8gA:10 Message-ID: <4911C914.1010705@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:25:56 -0500 From: Steve Polyack User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081006) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tijl Coosemans References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <49086F1A.2090500@comcast.net> <4911AF29.6070707@comcast.net> <200811051606.29361.tijl@ulyssis.org> In-Reply-To: <200811051606.29361.tijl@ulyssis.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:42:17 -0000 Tijl Coosemans wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2008 15:35:21 Steve Polyack wrote: > >> So I've done some more testing of this with various linux_base-* >> installs. Youtube and most things (google maps) work with sound just >> fine for a few seconds, but after trying to interact or letting them go >> for a few minute they begin to rapidly eat up main memory. >> npviewer.bin's usage will top out somewhere around 300-450MB before it >> core dumps: pid 77684 (npviewer.bin), uid 1042: exited on signal 11 >> (core dumped). This is on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386 (as of Tue Oct 28) with >> native Firefox 3.0.3 still. >> > > Do you have this with linux-firefox? > > Yes, I have the same behavior when using linux-firefox 2.0.17 from ports. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 16:51:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AFC1065674 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31868FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:51:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bTLY1a0040FhH24A8Urp9f; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:51:49 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bUro1a00L2P6wsM8UUroLJ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:51:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qww_42MyOAgA:10 a=QrKowp_NS8wA:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=Kp3Cr0e4yPQLf1aphbkA:9 a=5VNR5BgEHLqZVW1W4ykA:7 a=Jd1MvC7SupL_9djIViyGhsKfnSoA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 34335C9439; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:51:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:51:48 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081105165148.GA15560@icarus.home.lan> References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> <4911C46A.7020401@kukulies.org> <4911C93E.4090803@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4911C93E.4090803@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:51:50 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:26:38PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Christoph Kukulies schrieb: >> Christoph Kukulies schrieb: >>> Hi Al, >>> >>> thanks for pointing me to safe mode install. That I will probably try >>> tomorrow. >>> The day ended up in havoc: I tried to boot a floppy to do an ASUS >>> BIOS upgrade and somehow messed with the power cable. >>> A big flash occurred originating from the power supply. I opened the >>> power supply, found a blown fuse, ran to the electronics store, >>> bought a new fuse (+ one in reserve), inserted the fuse, tried the >>> power supply, with connections off and a firework, prematurely - your >>> presidential elections aren't finished yet - , developed in front of >>> my face. Will continue tomorrow, when America has a new president. >>> >> >> Back at the problem: I chose 3. safe mode to no avail. Still get this >> >> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x11 ascq=0x00 > I now tried with a 7.0 BETA Boot CD (which I had laying around from > possibly another fruitless attempt in the past to > update that system from 5.1 or something to 7.x). Same picture. Hangs on > this > > acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x21 ascq=0x00 > (asc=0x21 at this time FWIW). This won't help you get FreeBSD installed any quicker, but it will give you some insight to what the error messages mean. ATAPI essentially uses SCSI commands but over an ATA bus, which is why atapicam(4) exists (which is what's giving you the xpt_* errors). The problem is that not all drives are created equal, so some behave differently to certain commands than others. ASC and ASCQ are, in layman's terms, "error codes" with added degrees of granularity. ASC = Additional Sense Code, ASCQ = Additional Sense Code Qualifier. These are fairly well-documented all over the web, and per T10 specifications. Looking at a chart, specifically noting errors that are for CD (MMC) devices, we find: ASC 0x11, ASCQ 0x00 == Unrecovered Read Error ASC 0x21, ASCQ 0x00 == Logical Block Address (LBA) Out of Range Your first reaction will be "So does this mean I have a bad CD?", and the answer is "not necessarily". It could be that the drive does not support the commands FreeBSD expects available to read a CD in this particular fashion. But it could also be a badly burned CD, or a CD burned with buggy software. If at all possible, try another CD drive of some kind. Get one from a friend, borrow one, or buy one. People have had good experiences with Plextor and Pioneer drives, while recent Samsung drives have been hit-or-miss. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 17:13:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860C91065692 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:13:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phocking@fsklaw.com) Received: from thor-new.fsklaw.com (thor-new.fsklaw.com [64.174.116.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375F08FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:13:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phocking@fsklaw.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thor-new.fsklaw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE91C21A1A0B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor-new.fsklaw.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08282-05 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:41:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.61.171] (drybook.fsklaw.com [192.168.61.171]) by thor-new.fsklaw.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C98421A19EA for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:41:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4911CCCB.7030908@fsklaw.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:41:47 -0800 From: Phillip Hocking User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at fsklaw.com Subject: Kernel Panic on 7.0-REL X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:13:03 -0000 Hello all, I keep getting a kernel panic every Saturday night, so I figured I would go through the core dump. # uname -a FreeBSD xx.fsklaw.com 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #1: Wed Apr 23 08:01:10 PDT 2008 xx@xx.fsklaw.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TEST amd64 # kgdb kernel.symbols /var/crash/vmcore.2 [GDB will not be able to debug user-mode threads: /usr/lib/libthread_db.so: Undefined symbol "ps_pglobal_lookup"] GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd". Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1; apic id = 01 fault virtual address = 0x250 fault code = supervisor read data, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xffffffff80482a5d stack pointer = 0x10:0xffffffffb184b570 frame pointer = 0x10:0xffffff003f9cf6a0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 37920 (bsdtar) trap number = 12 panic: page fault cpuid = 1 Uptime: 7d2h23m33s Physical memory: 2034 MB Dumping 415 MB: 400 384 368 352 336 320 304 288 272 256 240 224 208 192 176 160 144 128 112 96 80 64 48 32 16 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 194 __asm __volatile("movq %%gs:0,%0" : "=r" (td)); (kgdb) where #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 #1 0x0000000000000004 in ?? () #2 0xffffffff8048e0d9 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #3 0xffffffff8048e4dd in panic (fmt=0x104
) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:563 #4 0xffffffff80786f44 in trap_fatal (frame=0xffffff003f9cf6a0, eva=18446742975518566608) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:724 #5 0xffffffff80787315 in trap_pfault (frame=0xffffffffb184b4c0, usermode=0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:641 #6 0xffffffff80787c58 in trap (frame=0xffffffffb184b4c0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:410 #7 0xffffffff8076d88e in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:169 #8 0xffffffff80482a5d in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xffffff009662c410, tid=18446742975265175200, opts=Variable "opts" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:335 #9 0xffffffff804f5978 in vfs_vmio_release (bp=0xffffffff9a329220) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:1530 #10 0xffffffff804f77f4 in getnewbuf (slpflag=0, slptimeo=0, size=Variable "size" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:1847 #11 0xffffffff804f8801 in getblk (vp=0xffffff000b71c5d0, blkno=294994, size=16384, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0, flags=Variable "flags" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:2602 #12 0xffffffff806a3d5b in ffs_balloc_ufs2 (vp=0xffffff000b71c5d0, startoffset=Variable "startoffset" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_balloc.c:844 #13 0xffffffff806bf6e5 in ffs_write (ap=0xffffffffb184ba10) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c:720 #14 0xffffffff807e04e5 in VOP_WRITE_APV (vop=0xffffffff80a6b0e0, a=0xffffffffb184ba10) at vnode_if.c:691 #15 0xffffffff8051ae41 in vn_write (fp=0xffffff00284771e0, uio=0xffffffffb184bb00, active_cred=Variable "active_cred" is not available. ) at vnode_if.h:373 #16 0xffffffff804c6468 in dofilewrite (td=0xffffff003f9cf6a0, fd=3, fp=0xffffff00284771e0, auio=0xffffffffb184bb00, offset=Variable "offset" is not available. ) at file.h:254 #17 0xffffffff804c676e in kern_writev (td=0xffffff003f9cf6a0, fd=3, auio=0xffffffffb184bb00) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:401 #18 0xffffffff804c67ec in write (td=0xffffff009662c410, uap=0xffffff003f9cf6a0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:317 #19 0xffffffff80787597 in syscall (frame=0xffffffffb184bc70) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:852 #20 0xffffffff8076da9b in Xfast_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:290 #21 0x0000000800a66d3c in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) (kgdb) up 8 #8 0xffffffff80482a5d in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xffffff009662c410, tid=18446742975265175200, opts=Variable "opts" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_mutex.c:335 335 owner = (struct thread *)(v & ~MTX_FLAGMASK); (kgdb) p owner $1 = (volatile struct thread *) 0xfffffffffffffff8 (kgdb) p v $2 = 18446744073709551615 Note the uptime, this happens every Saturday for the last three weeks. I have a cronjob that tar/bzips a drive and scps it to another box, but that runs nightly at midnight on the cronjob, and this happens weekly but only on Saturday, same cronjob same data. I figured if it happened again, I would hit up the mailing list. Hopefully you all can suggest what to upgrade to or how to further troubleshoot this issue. Thanks a bundle y'all, love the beastie! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 17:30:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F5F1065679; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) Received: from mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be (mailrelay009.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.6.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B26B8FC1B; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) X-Belgacom-Dynamic: yes X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAJllEUlR93Sx/2dsb2JhbACBd8tfg1M Received: from 177.116-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (HELO kalimero.kotnet.org) ([81.247.116.177]) by relay.skynet.be with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 18:30:55 +0100 Received: from kalimero.kotnet.org (kalimero.kotnet.org [127.0.0.1]) by kalimero.kotnet.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA5HSNWt014864; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:28:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tijl@ulyssis.org) From: Tijl Coosemans To: Steve Polyack Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:28:21 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200810280859.24048@aldan> <200811051606.29361.tijl@ulyssis.org> <4911C914.1010705@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <4911C914.1010705@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811051828.23041.tijl@ulyssis.org> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flash9 checklist X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:30:57 -0000 On Wednesday 05 November 2008 17:25:56 Steve Polyack wrote: > Tijl Coosemans wrote: >> On Wednesday 05 November 2008 15:35:21 Steve Polyack wrote: >>> So I've done some more testing of this with various linux_base-* >>> installs. Youtube and most things (google maps) work with sound just >>> fine for a few seconds, but after trying to interact or letting them go >>> for a few minute they begin to rapidly eat up main memory. >>> npviewer.bin's usage will top out somewhere around 300-450MB before it >>> core dumps: pid 77684 (npviewer.bin), uid 1042: exited on signal 11 >>> (core dumped). This is on FreeBSD 7-STABLE i386 (as of Tue Oct 28) with >>> native Firefox 3.0.3 still. >> >> Do you have this with linux-firefox? > > Yes, I have the same behavior when using linux-firefox 2.0.17 from ports. Ok, so it's not a problem with npviewer.bin then. It's possible that when it's eating memory it's already coredumping. I've noticed that coredumps are generally a LOT bigger with 2.6.16 emulation compared to 2.4.2. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 19:45:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF36B1065687 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B13AB8FC18 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA5JjZCO056542 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:45:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:45:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 11:45:10 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081105194506.GA18676@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: console locked again:: load over 2.00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:45:18 -0000 Hey guys, Any ideas *why* my load is so high when my desktop wasn't touched for 9, 10 hours? I was running mostly KDE3 konsoles, and had a few other processes going, the apps iconisized. The server is still running; I've killed everything I can think of to reduce the load. It may be that the screen won't come back if the load is > 1.00. I'm upgrading my kernel to see if *that* has any effect. O/wise, I'm out of ideas. Anybody?? gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 19:52:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E48106567E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244588FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0AE95EBC43; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:52:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:52:36 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20081105145236.dcce93dd.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20081105194506.GA18676@thought.org> References: <20081105194506.GA18676@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: console locked again:: load over 2.00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:52:39 -0000 In response to Gary Kline : > > Any ideas *why* my load is so high when my desktop wasn't touched for 9, 10 hours? > I was running mostly KDE3 konsoles, and had a few other processes going, the > apps iconisized. The server is still running; I've killed everything I can think of > to reduce the load. It may be that the screen won't come back if the load is > > 1.00. I'm upgrading my kernel to see if *that* has any effect. O/wise, I'm out of > ideas. Doesn't sound right at all. I've seen my load avgs go much higher than 2 on my desktop and not had much difficulty logging in. Generally, slow logins are a symptom of IO starvation, as an inability to get to a disk page is more of a show stopper than contention for CPU resources. How much of your swap is in use? What are the pagein/ pageout statistics during this? Are you sure the disk isn't dying? -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 19:53:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D155106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:53:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D94F8FC1C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 19:53:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA5JrKbQ095085; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47099BA9E; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:53:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:53:20 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Gary Kline Message-ID: <20081105195320.GA35044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081105194506.GA18676@thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105194506.GA18676@thought.org> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: console locked again:: load over 2.00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:53:23 -0000 --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: >=20 > Hey guys, >=20 > Any ideas *why* my load is so high when my desktop wasn't touched for > 9, 10 hours? I was running mostly KDE3 konsoles, and had a few other > processes going, the apps iconisized. The server is still running; > I've killed everything I can think of to reduce the load. It may be > that the screen won't come back if the load is > 1.00. I'm upgrading > my kernel to see if *that* has any effect. O/wise, I'm out of ideas. Try leaving 'top -SI' running in a console window. That should tell you what the culprit is. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkR+bAACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWylQCffAWxvQ75MkcEQhlivWF/mCU6 c2wAoJ5Ssj8/yoQQw8HkyG+hSuAntNgr =dzr0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZPt4rx8FFjLCG7dd-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 20:27:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED3B1065679 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A568FC29 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 20:27:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA5KRwpB008182 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:27:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA5KRweC008179 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:27:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:27:58 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105202758.GA12666@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Subject: Method to mirror a single partition across the net. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:27:59 -0000 I've the Handbook's chapter on GEOM, gmirror(1), geom(8), ggated(8), and ggatec(8), and I've search the web for a solution to the following issue. I would like to mirror a single partition on system A to a a partition on system B. It would appear a combination of gmirror and ggated would work, but I haven't found any example on setting up two systems. To be specific, /etc/fstab on the 2 systems is # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad4s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad4s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad4s1e /data ufs rw 2 2 /dev/ad4s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 I want to mirror 192.168.0.20:/dev/ad4s1e to 192.168.0.21:/dev/ad4s1e Anyone have a pointer to a howto or tutorial on setting this up? -- Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 21:01:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 656A61065676 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09F88FC14 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:01:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA5L1PA7020473; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:01:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA5L1OZf020470; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:01:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:01:24 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Steve Kargl In-Reply-To: <20081105202758.GA12666@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20081105220050.A20422@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081105202758.GA12666@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Method to mirror a single partition across the net. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:01:37 -0000 > following issue. > > I would like to mirror a single partition on system A to a > a partition on system B. It would appear a combination of > gmirror and ggated would work, but I haven't found any > example on setting up two systems. you are right. just create device with ggatec and insert it to the mirror. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 21:11:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F511065674; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:11:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406BA8FC1F; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:11:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [88.78.210.49] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.2.105]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6455495; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:11:15 +0100 Message-ID: <49120BE4.7010009@kukulies.org> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:11:00 +0100 From: kuku User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Chadwick References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> <4911C46A.7020401@kukulies.org> <4911C93E.4090803@kukulies.org> <20081105165148.GA15560@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20081105165148.GA15560@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation on ASUS P4S8X fails BIG MEDIUM ERROR X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:11:33 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick schrieb: > >> >> acd0: FAILURE - READ BIG MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x21 ascq=0x00 >> (asc=0x21 at this time FWIW). >> > > This won't help you get FreeBSD installed any quicker, but it will give > you some insight to what the error messages mean. > > ATAPI essentially uses SCSI commands but over an ATA bus, which is why > atapicam(4) exists (which is what's giving you the xpt_* errors). The > problem is that not all drives are created equal, so some behave > differently to certain commands than others. > > ASC and ASCQ are, in layman's terms, "error codes" with added degrees of > granularity. ASC = Additional Sense Code, ASCQ = Additional Sense Code > Qualifier. These are fairly well-documented all over the web, and per > T10 specifications. Looking at a chart, specifically noting errors that > are for CD (MMC) devices, we find: > > ASC 0x11, ASCQ 0x00 == Unrecovered Read Error > ASC 0x21, ASCQ 0x00 == Logical Block Address (LBA) Out of Range > > Your first reaction will be "So does this mean I have a bad CD?", and > the answer is "not necessarily". It could be that the drive does not > support the commands FreeBSD expects available to read a CD in this > particular fashion. But it could also be a badly burned CD, or a > CD burned with buggy software. > > If at all possible, try another CD drive of some kind. Get one from a > friend, borrow one, or buy one. People have had good experiences with > Plextor and Pioneer drives, while recent Samsung drives have been > hit-or-miss. > I'm now at home at a different burner but I probably don't have a different CD recording software other than cdrecord available. that's Windows XP BTW, under which I burnt that CDs. I could prbably boot an older (4.x) FreeBSD on that machine but that would be CD record, too. Medium is also a 80 min 700 MB CD. Weren't they 650 MB in earlier times actually? Earlier times I mean, when I still had my FreeBSD subscription and got each release in a neat CD set :-) Oh well, I will give it another try and see how it works out. Later -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 21:36:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25920106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 063778FC1C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA5LaA4O002679; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA5LaA5L002678; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:36:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 13:36:10 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081105213610.GA29688@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20081105202758.GA12666@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20081105220050.A20422@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105220050.A20422@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Method to mirror a single partition across the net. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:36:11 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 10:01:24PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >following issue. > > > >I would like to mirror a single partition on system A to a > >a partition on system B. It would appear a combination of > >gmirror and ggated would work, but I haven't found any > >example on setting up two systems. > you are right. > > just create device with ggatec and insert it to the mirror. Thanks for the reply. Perhaps, I'm missing an important detail, but gmirror(8) seems to suggest that it operates on an entire disk. Note, in my original email I used the word partition but showed a disk slice. I really do mean a partition within a slice. Does the following work where I want to mirror only 192.168.0.20:/dev/ad4s1e to 192.168.0.21:/dev/ad4s1e? On 192.168.0.21: # umount /dev/ad4s1e # echo "192.168.0.21/24 RW /dev/ad4s1e" > /etc/gg.exports # ggated On 192.168.0.20: # ggatec create -o rw 192.168.0.21 /dev/ad4s1e # gmirror label data /dev/ad4s1e # gmirror insert data /dev/ggate0 and /etc/fstab becomes # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ad4s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/ad4s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ad4s1d /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/mirror/data /data ufs rw 2 2 -- Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 22:42:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68349106567B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3M=a8b01d77@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D9368FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3M=a8b01d77@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44914163E00 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:26:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452A1D05A8 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:26:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:26:06 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105222606.76ca14f2@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <0016e64bddfee7b2b6045af25294@google.com> References: <0016e64bddfee7b2b6045af25294@google.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:42:42 -0000 On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800 af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: the only > thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). Aside from the fact that there are separate kde meta-ports, portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and everything that depends on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends on. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 22:47:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300E71065678 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:47:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-108.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-108.bluehost.com [69.89.22.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB4368FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 30948 invoked by uid 0); 5 Nov 2008 22:47:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2008 22:47:07 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=iXTraEkfdA4O9UiWDxdBExt3QFesNHDC3Yi+A3/IK++0mllqPzqXHn4yN1iApL140Bz/aHTlzatWfPofk5K1GlriFjB15ZfnCtrjS+FCSaj5+EgYPnUTXNMpZe1Ffa8+; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kxr9W-000631-WF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:47:07 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:47:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:47:39 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd mailing list Message-ID: <20081105224739.GB2663@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd mailing list References: <410306.67693.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8GpibOaaTibBMecb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <410306.67693.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Java and FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:47:09 -0000 --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:28:10AM -0800, mdh wrote: >=20 > My advice is to install the following ports in the following order: =20 >=20 > java/jdk16 > java/eclipse-devel Does licensing BS still require out-of-band agreement to EULAs on the Sun website in 7.x, or has that finally changed for the better? --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Albert Camus: "An intellectual is someone whose mind watches itself." --8GpibOaaTibBMecb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkSIosACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKW/zwCdGHjdPLz3TqkU2+/JeOyZ082n TxAAoNdWXb8BQ9U7o2Uip1rGMhToCPaP =gVUA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8GpibOaaTibBMecb-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:19:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600E31065688 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38ACF8FC16 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.139]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:19:09 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=FP58Ms26AAAA:8 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=KzcXgRT_i74R1HTf2zEA:9 a=VgO5W2eWBqcrmvxa9wwA:7 a=3GP8pPsNMDL8jzxG2AfoAAFgiucA:4 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd2ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:19:09 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C621701E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:19:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:19:05 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: running linux programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:19:10 -0000 if i want to run a linux program that is not offered in the linux-* collection, can i compile it so that it will be run through the emulator rather than as a freebsd program? for instance, i want to run chessdb (a maintained version of scid which is in the ports) and there is a tarball for unix: ChessDB-3.6.18.tar.gz UNIX/Linux tarball. (http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/downloads/) but it doesn't seem to compile properly on freebsd. i was wondering if i could compile it in linux, but there doesn't seem to be any compiler present in /compat/linux ... -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:03:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012491065675 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: from web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E9948FC19 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 48054 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2008 22:36:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=aBBjuaDSvdzw/oSiC0/GTemwqCn56L3c+ywMV+Qd9ObSBwcPFjcZy+IiNveKTmF+HsM1Vp4XQjDjZmfjXsXwHtMz+GBMdQwe75smAmlDOpkp1PRfwqgzxRR6dHPkmlX+cQHmkN/eN5PP+It73Ea11IHlEO9sH/hPtyavkhQm4sU=; X-YMail-OSG: FS_7ycQVM1n5JidyZEMz332AnSl99aLhGiy0JWMqlFwEynC7j5hHaYlaw4pWysQXqM18dBJDiuxy1e_qujF8MCa2KsT944nbxGec_OjTWteYKyiVcZ1Dw5jUQouyFapSJomH Received: from [216.137.132.193] by web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:36:47 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: david mellick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <274247.47475.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:23:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:03:29 -0000 how long does it normally take GNOME to install? Thanks Dave From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:30:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5AB106568C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7378FC13 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so237559fkk.11 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mXp1VJs0dopueiZkHWScmG53t6K48pIyqRvoUoZnTwY=; b=K2eKgz1fS6CVb7NnhMp8HGk018OImolxtPpEduPPdynNhhrRg4eZ4kEcFEDZkHD1Fi qLAEkJ+B3wt20rwkiaXomoxZJr/KAlz9RDmUUN0gUT0KSUAAOYoLjNyOu8+80pFrhQDr uu6Ao1t+zaApYTo7Lf8yZSJ51ypfuvQOlZ08U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IlT5QmbpMyOhQ5VNWg8Oiw6QeSky3Wnn2vp3CaSV3yjHBU8Sh7wymIU0x/+b9WPrul F5fadeLCoF4EoM2xz5+9kgWyZbtct70AU0HrAWy8ikh2L6D9UmwmqX/BEmKNFq2jpuc5 tLEMdDxDIQNmUUVixPccj8XMKxyl53/pjAQc0= Received: by 10.187.187.20 with SMTP id o20mr348886fap.63.1225927804225; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:30:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811051530m675e06dq387fca6d4c39dc90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:30:04 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: prad In-Reply-To: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running linux programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:30:06 -0000 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:19 PM, prad wrote: > if i want to run a linux program that is not offered in the linux-* > collection, can i compile it so that it will be run through the > emulator rather than as a freebsd program? > You could use linux binary compatability. > for instance, i want to run chessdb (a maintained version of scid which > is in the ports) and there is a tarball for unix: > > ChessDB-3.6.18.tar.gz UNIX/Linux tarball. > (http://chessdb.sourceforge.net/downloads/) > > but it doesn't seem to compile properly on freebsd. > What errors do you get? What `./configure' options do you give it? > i was wondering if i could compile it in linux, but there doesn't seem > to be any compiler present in /compat/linux ... > -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:30:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3008B1065686 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:30:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D5F8FC1A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:30:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so162251fgb.35 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cxuTxTxE5sffF9WRF3rqEeFpvoRKhAPJkF5Nh5+gJGk=; b=RJ8FTiZ1qmubwLPxC6tyueEQKn+TzNDP+m1AWBJibh0Db+HKwbJR2oaVHDoYb5+49Q t/TMJplRWsQSP29Sp8I2upoqX6+CNO/sEUQwaM0PDOd1/uU5jx2P9uaYO/dv2X29TfCm rtOJvioBK0/Mv8yc9f0Jp0ae90TIk5NLEmKC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AObI3KuKe8C++5gvoN8MGpSGNQ5FL3mqVOUIxm7R9KYmGubr/IpzXXnMEu55GiylbL DxYhHUqxtIx4u9oRyvhntH0l42zxVZQ0RZiiZNtBmNfc/fdn+JGEe7ajD8e5pc61J5Oi tyRlNNtlxeTWvmAgO6yzFWsKQVHxRzyJXq5W0= Received: by 10.187.210.3 with SMTP id m3mr349120faq.59.1225927841474; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:30:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:30:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811051530j6967068ftd67c91cf4475024e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:30:41 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <274247.47475.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <274247.47475.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:30:43 -0000 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM, david mellick wrote: > how long does it normally take GNOME to install? > Your question is extremely vague. Install *how*? Ports or from pkg_add? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:33:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85DD106564A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957998FC1B for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-1-209-225.bna.bellsouth.net[65.1.209.225]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20081105233316H0500cgvm7e>; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:33:17 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.1.209.225] Message-ID: <49122D2E.4040903@datapipe.com> Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:33:02 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com References: <274247.47475.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <274247.47475.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:33:17 -0000 david mellick wrote: > how long does it normally take GNOME to install? > > > > Thanks > Dave > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > This is quite an open-ended question that has lots of variables. The answer is, it depends on your system in which no one will be able to provide any specifics; more or less. ~Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:41:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0481065675 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:41:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01348FC22 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:41:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so165435fgb.35 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kG+WVMPcP6SmpY59/QSK34dM+YbK7uqPy4NJR/bUvwM=; b=DkLtbYJBF1HEmoQeZ1D+6Ci7TnpsTye9JXxZedqBSkyxXlDNSK7fyzHM75Vi3gt3sA xlzJfgHAsAvesjR3i2zsDMtzgzCplzeayv8Gx5CufA5KizSmjcBkfU3WGwlARhVJO69f JqDJeg2Lhr1hkHX5bASlMx5q3ABOqcbc6j1E0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m8gReAiWNlkJopMtlqTWIak6MHdkopc+wW/u0Cm0eVvPdlZwbgE5dsJraUSw9vh/zZ bmpllSH/C/Y4FnUlu7wMn7bZ4b1E/lNriH9eVNh7vkaapjoKrkwcZQQEOe+2t6R51bJj g40TqgIB8UsgeyuJ6nmPAiGaAG/mKkrPBbiyI= Received: by 10.187.186.16 with SMTP id n16mr345970fap.94.1225928462656; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:41:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811051541i636056c0rde76ed8ba11d2e1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:41:02 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <58369.91275.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ad871310811051530j6967068ftd67c91cf4475024e@mail.gmail.com> <58369.91275.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:41:04 -0000 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, david mellick wrote: > yeah i should be more specific on a pentium VIA ports > > But this no longer matters apparently I ran out of space I guess the schools > systems are ancient 5.1 Gigs > You should have made sure ample space was available in the first place. > so any advice on cleaning up the mess. deinstall wont work since it did not > completely install. > `make distclean` should do it. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:43:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DFD1065676 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746798FC12 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:43:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so166696fgb.35 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:43:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=K9SQ0pCjxZ4XyCimSlQLAb7pyO0wEBmWRTTZhT16vak=; b=IMvoGM2AmkO9VH7VtrVXo63DbO4ME26v2RVGgSQaiTH4S9yteZ1i6W5BBNrWZnZwwq wWwpJmMA4DatdD7eDRLL0umZVQytvTbTK3hsLNCbSSDikbs6GoBWhkQBS9D+gwDiDODx Q7d+I9O1npDnIzscIlippdgHXzI/re6105cb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Ol6SnOtz9bp152vz5IE/aE0SAL6izvwtQFMvNzIwFVDSYsqhSLIEn8rPFEntK1e5lE 1vPdeXNbuM+J9Rraz426dsBsP92CvNYNLa40NA/lc94CjaQaLW3x0D85tbrLWtvh+eKe hZqeXZYJPK0UVTcI/aWGNgD0uA5K2fc5AjKwo= Received: by 10.187.195.7 with SMTP id x7mr351616fap.45.1225928599258; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:43:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811051543y516bc273s536d9ac7f633c1e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:43:19 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <4ad871310811051541i636056c0rde76ed8ba11d2e1f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ad871310811051530j6967068ftd67c91cf4475024e@mail.gmail.com> <58369.91275.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4ad871310811051541i636056c0rde76ed8ba11d2e1f@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:43:21 -0000 You could also do `rm -rf /usr/ports/x11/gnome2/work' -- Glen Barber 570.328.0318 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:52:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEC01065670 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:52:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0188FC08 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:52:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd5ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.166]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:52:10 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=4adcvrI9ZudngOYzD8YA:9 a=46FJFsKL7CWDXqrStaPrrvhBlJoA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd5ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 16:52:10 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CB01701E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:52:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:52:05 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105155205.2364f921@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310811051530m675e06dq387fca6d4c39dc90@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> <4ad871310811051530m675e06dq387fca6d4c39dc90@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: running linux programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:52:11 -0000 On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 18:30:04 -0500 "Glen Barber" wrote: > > but it doesn't seem to compile properly on freebsd. > > > > What errors do you get? What `./configure' options do you give it? > i think i've solved the problem. there were certain alterations to the Makefile i had to do and twiddle with a couple of other things, but it works now compiled on freebsd. however, can i compile a linux program within the linux emulator instead of using the gcc in freebsd? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:39:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A401065673 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: from web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C6F08FC0A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:39:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 91816 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2008 23:39:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=hrTW4uShjGAFW1KMHsUJwGjYmADpO4KG0HsLsHz5evNOtQJCY4Tb0baoRr4+kPReBK2rNJp8RndwiHlPIRa7I9mCY/PQfkET9Co7gq5cDNZTW34dNqFtubBFrrS60lo2syd39cXKZERgXekj4AhYU9+2n2YOds2qkSqk3E7nnec=; X-YMail-OSG: Blfi2vkVM1nAfb5XYjjW8onMfFsN5bse2IpjTyvQ0TxrsomW9jsn3fyhqMIUEStgney3BOkIgdbxD.reFXoJwO2kLoiAgAa_C2LnNje.oTCjRu8zejlVQwXOinyKuMOws2zzsWh9BuGWzZos3SzBmxciig-- Received: from [216.137.132.193] by web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:39:46 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:39:46 -0800 (PST) From: david mellick To: Glen Barber In-Reply-To: <4ad871310811051530j6967068ftd67c91cf4475024e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <58369.91275.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:01:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:39:47 -0000 yeah i should be more specific on a pentium VIA ports But this no longer matters apparently I ran out of space I guess the school= s systems are ancient 5.1 Gigs so any advice on cleaning up the mess.=A0 deinstall wont work since it did = not completely install. --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Glen Barber wrote: From: Glen Barber Subject: Re: a quick? To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 6:30 PM On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:36 PM, david mellick wrote: > how long does it normally take GNOME to install? > Your question is extremely vague. Install *how*? Ports or from pkg_add? --=20 Glen Barber =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 5 23:53:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE2C106568A for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: from web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 919618FC1C for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cactushugger1@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 1668 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Nov 2008 23:53:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=c2lf5O5kkvzY5hvmZqSTx8SMKckPi7JPb6+Iba2Vrvyp9/+TA690F79bS/5cW/53xhlu0Rkp6187E4vZ9vZDmSKDxzQqqbHlWE4PBrZf1W/Y+Ib3Z+vVGVgFAD5Y7wMzFdPirdbEIY7Hl+A6uG5HT2/5rJwxUnpq5CLSkG7nqYM=; X-YMail-OSG: Qm_UZlcVM1kkF4ZmFwLIN0nrYWg7cbLG0AmQvAkwe8SLOtEmghWZmXh9o8GvfNhB33cM.E07.L2krwxszs6BXg.I491aV8rGYWDb1XzUR_MCg3nLoqeQwUA5IyvqoDm70GpE.Geo4oj3Ey9NID0uGbJesA-- Received: from [216.137.132.193] by web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:53:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:53:36 -0800 (PST) From: david mellick To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4ad871310811051541i636056c0rde76ed8ba11d2e1f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <151070.1030.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:07:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: a quick? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:53:36 -0000 The decision to check for ample space was ignored because the guide lines w= ere install 2 modules and a project.=A0 so surely more the 5 gigs was avail= able in an age of 90 dollar TB, that was my logic. Thanks for the help --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Glen Barber wrote: From: Glen Barber Subject: Re: a quick? To: cactushugger1@yahoo.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 6:41 PM On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, david mellick wrote: > yeah i should be more specific on a pentium VIA ports > > But this no longer matters apparently I ran out of space I guess the schools > systems are ancient 5.1 Gigs > You should have made sure ample space was available in the first place. > so any advice on cleaning up the mess. deinstall wont work since it did not > completely install. > `make distclean` should do it. --=20 Glen Barber _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" =0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 02:15:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4591065672 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4D38FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 02:15:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl92-78.kln.forthnet.gr [77.49.59.78]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mA62FK9B016726 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:15:29 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA62FK1o004859; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:15:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA62FI5Z004858; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:15:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com References: Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:15:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (fbsd1@a1poweruser.com's message of "Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:38:03 +0800") Message-ID: <87skq5r45l.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mA62FK9B016726 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.854, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.55, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: irc & usenet clients for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:15:38 -0000 On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:38:03 +0800, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com wrote: > What irc, pop mail, and usenet clients from gmone or kde or x would > you recommend to use on xfce? My setup is a bit `unusual' for those who like holistic approaches to the desktop, like GNOME and KDE, but I use GNU Emacs for email, news and IRC (sometimes for web browsing too). Gnus, running inside a separate Emacs instance, is a very good email & news reader. It supports MIME, PGP encryption, email filtering and archival; it can connect through POP or IMAP; it supports authentication methods like POP+SSL; it can read email from Unix mailboxes, MH-folders, or Maildirs; it can fetch & cache email from multiple sources; it can score Usenet messages with customizable rules, so you only have to read what you prefer instead of everything, and so on... The feature list is just too huge to include here. The ERC module (included in the latest Emacs 22.X releases) is a quite flexible and nice IRC client. It integrates well with the rest of Emacs, so you get the full power of a magnificent editor in all your IRC windows; it can connect to multiple servers; it can use Bitlbee as a back-end for instant messaging; but most importantly it can be tuned, customized and extended right there from within Emacs, like any other Emacs Lisp application. If you have used GNU Emacs and you feel comfortable working with it, these two (Gnus and ERC) can probably be a very useful and powerful combo. More information about them (and many other Emacs modules) is available online at the Emacs Wiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/CategoryGnus http://www.emacswiki.org/ERC These two aren't exactly XFCE-specific, but I consider this a huge advantage, instead of a short-coming :-) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 03:11:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19CF1065676 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (www.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4614A8FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: (qmail 10221 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 03:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.200?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@203.123.20.158) by www.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2008 03:11:28 -0000 Message-ID: <49126063.6090108@extracktor.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:11:31 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Javier_Mart=EDn_Rueda?= References: <4911AADB.3060202@extracktor.com> <4911B859.6080304@diatel.upm.es> In-Reply-To: <4911B859.6080304@diatel.upm.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [mod_mono] how to install from freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:11:24 -0000 Hello Javier, Thanks for the tip. They have released new versions since then, but I'll give it a try and see how it goes. By the way, what is your assessment of mono on FreeBSD? I don't see a lot of support for this platform. Even for Linux there's too much emphasis on SuSe. What is going on? Javier Martín Rueda wrote: > Foo JH wrote: >> I'm using 7.0, and I've installed mono and apache22 from the packages >> (pkg_add -r xxx). Now I need to find mod_mono to complete the pieces. >> Trouble is, I don't see it available from the ports tree. >> >> > I have these notes from some mod_mono installation I did some time ago. > I hope they are still valid: > > I installed mono from the ports. It was just a standard install, so > installing from packages should be the same. > > XSP > === > > * fetch http://go-mono.com/sources/xsp/xsp-1.2.3.tar.gz > * configure && gmake && gmake install > * Test: mono /usr/local/lib/mono/2.0/xsp2.exe. Open http://myserver:8080 > (it will say it cannot find /) > * Test 2: copy a web application and open it. It should work. > > MOD_MONO > ======== > > * fetch http://go-mono.com/sources/mod_mono/mod_mono-1.2.1.tar.gz > * configure && gmake && gmake install > * mv /usr/local/etc/apache22/mod_mono.conf /usr/local/etc/apache22/Includes > * Edit mod_mono.conf and add this: > > MonoServerPath /usr/local/bin/mod-mono-server2 > MonoPath /usr/local/lib/mono/2.0 > > * Install test application in /somewhere/website and create > /usr/local/etc/apache22/Includes/prueba.conf: > > Alias /prueba "/somewhere/website" > MonoApplications "/prueba:/somewhere/website" > > > Allow from all > > > > Open http://myserver/prueba and it should work. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 05:30:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C196A106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8280A8FC1E for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF9416C006A; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:30:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA65U4Ig001713; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:30:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:30:04 +0100 From: Polytropon To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Message-Id: <20081106063004.e5a4991e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: irc & usenet clients for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:30:07 -0000 On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:38:03 +0800, "FBSD1" wrote: > What irc, pop mail, and usenet clients from gmone or kde or x would you > recommend to use on xfce? On a XFCE 4 system, XChat-2 for IRC, Sylpheed for POP mail would give you a good setup that does not involve too much dependencies. On the other hand, using Firefox + Thunderbird would be usable, too. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 05:34:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0184110656A5 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:34:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (muon.cran.org.uk [66.246.138.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76608FC08 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:34:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bruce@cran.org.uk) Received: from muon.cran.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99A81905E; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 00:34:53 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muon X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 Received: from tau.draftnet (unknown [66.45.161.67]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by muon.cran.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 00:34:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 21:34:40 -0800 From: Bruce Cran To: "stephen farrell" Message-ID: <20081105213440.46f03432@tau.draftnet> In-Reply-To: <41b6ede20811050421u76ec9a1bjb5da897090f20fc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <41b6ede20811050421u76ec9a1bjb5da897090f20fc4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: uhub0: device problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:34:56 -0000 On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 12:21:30 +0000 "stephen farrell" wrote: > Hi, first off I'm new to FreeBSD so be gentle! :) > > I seem to be having problems with a HP 7260 usb printer. Cups is > installed and setup correctly following the Handbook method but i'm > finding that the uhub is getting disabled, stalling and timing out. > I have reproduced the same results on my other system. > > Both systems are running FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE & GENERIC kernel. > > The error message from dmesg is: > uhub0: device problem (IOERROR), disabling port 1 > > I do not have any issues with usb mouse or keyboards. Is this a > known issue or can i rectify the problem at all. Would be grateful > for some help as i am new to this level of configuration. I've seen problems like this on my old PC, which is running an Asus A7V333 motherboard from 2002. Its EHCI controller is reported as adhering to the 0.95 standard, which according to the update document from http://www.intel.com/technology/usb/ehcispec.htm was finished in 2000. I've assumed that since it's so ancient it's no surprise that it struggles with modern USB devices. Unfortunately I don't know of any solutions - or even if that's the problem. The first step would probably be to let people see what sort of hardware you have: could you post the output of the dmesg command please? -- Bruce Cran From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 06:47:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF24A1065672 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B52D8FC29 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1KxyeS-0005kq-H4; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:47:32 +0300 To: prad References: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> <4ad871310811051530m675e06dq387fca6d4c39dc90@mail.gmail.com> <20081105155205.2364f921@gom.home> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:47:21 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20081105155205.2364f921@gom.home> (prad@towardsfreedom.com's message of "Wed\, 5 Nov 2008 15\:52\:05 -0800") Message-ID: <02218086@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running linux programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:47:34 -0000 prad writes: > however, can i compile a linux program within the linux emulator > instead of using the gcc in freebsd? emulators/linux_dist-gentoo-stage* are used for this. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 06:58:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4FB01065672 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6688FC2D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:58:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2ml2so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.134]) by pd2mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 23:58:54 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=XaKplFIdD653VSrl-dwA:9 a=0UQk21SZ9jMUkn_Zzo-4ny4aIiAA:4 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd2ml2so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Nov 2008 23:58:54 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BBF1701E for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 22:58:49 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081105225849.43bb047f@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <02218086@bb.ipt.ru> References: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> <4ad871310811051530m675e06dq387fca6d4c39dc90@mail.gmail.com> <20081105155205.2364f921@gom.home> <02218086@bb.ipt.ru> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: running linux programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:58:54 -0000 On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:47:21 +0300 Boris Samorodov wrote: > emulators/linux_dist-gentoo-stage* are used for this. > so what i should do then is install one of the 3 dist-gentoo-stages? or do these work the same way as the gentoo stages - i seem to recall i just did gentoo from stage 2 or 3 many years ago. will this give me the gentoo emerge environment? will this be a separate /compat/linux directory from what i got when i simply put on linux-opera? is there a wiki on linux emulation anywhere? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 07:29:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D611065687 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from services.ipt.ru (services.ipt.ru [194.62.233.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602BE8FC1A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from bb.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.89]) by services.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.54 (FreeBSD)) id 1KxzIw-0006JH-F8; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:29:22 +0300 To: prad References: <20081105151905.4b7e0925@gom.home> <4ad871310811051530m675e06dq387fca6d4c39dc90@mail.gmail.com> <20081105155205.2364f921@gom.home> <02218086@bb.ipt.ru> <20081105225849.43bb047f@gom.home> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:29:11 +0300 In-Reply-To: <20081105225849.43bb047f@gom.home> (prad@towardsfreedom.com's message of "Wed\, 5 Nov 2008 22\:58\:49 -0800") Message-ID: <70055576@bb.ipt.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running linux programs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:29:23 -0000 prad writes: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:47:21 +0300 > Boris Samorodov wrote: > >> emulators/linux_dist-gentoo-stage* are used for this. >> > so what i should do then is install one of the 3 dist-gentoo-stages? Chroot to linux directory and compile the needed program. > or do these work the same way as the gentoo stages - i seem to recall i > just did gentoo from stage 2 or 3 many years ago. > > will this give me the gentoo emerge environment? > > will this be a separate /compat/linux directory from what i got when i > simply put on linux-opera? > > is there a wiki on linux emulation anywhere? You'd have better chances if you ask those questions at freebsd-emulation@ ML. WBR -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 08:18:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E371065676 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.tymkow@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EE88FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:18:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.tymkow@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so227967nfh.33 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:18:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=X5HvZcjArAoahAcUJSFkiKrO22y3gRsXQHXGchc6B9Y=; b=O95FdWxZc+lrCq+7phCa6Evr41qBvHbrX94IQE62PlOc2Z42bEoOQOZyErBLYDNvwb OOqnZ2oqGriajNTF1VwtgYReJ5eU9XRk+Je8/uZqMmr9D1pa+uaUJsueFcO48GYcq2hi oquuHtQZIR9lvlqac1zVMbgEjFUSQdRDspK9o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=b9Ae4E87zAntu7pqwEc4jnhAnjGVqwj34/A77QaAX4UzhdAMIUJ2WkL9Ongzx7hFjj O5yJ+l3REe/1kx4lJte7Lhj8JRHkn3/w/fI/qQ+DJxtS5Y3RB3tCnICc9+btBAKrUX0U fhgVlQsTLlVHI0gzV5QVeJ3xkwqdYjHRU3i1A= Received: by 10.210.29.11 with SMTP id c11mr1987585ebc.8.1225959508737; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.57.20 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 00:18:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <692660060811060018m7122c5c6k57f22431a2e8cd8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:18:28 +0100 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_Tymk=F3w?=" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <692660060811031405t334a1a2cq876913d4b801b180@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <835F48BA-494E-44A0-8D2B-D9F139AB2125@identry.com> <94136a2c0810010201y6d561828lb125419de1613aee@mail.gmail.com> <81F44C16-59C8-4A44-AE2A-B9F233834383@identry.com> <692660060810010933t6ada2c85g18b3e0e60d2cf02d@mail.gmail.com> <48E484B6.7090502@infracaninophile.co.uk> <692660060811031405t334a1a2cq876913d4b801b180@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Best way to back up mysql database X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:18:30 -0000 Hello, Yes you're right but what I meant was something like this ;)) http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2006/08/21/using-lvm-for-mysql-backup-and-replication-setup/ It's simple, safe and faster than mysqldump. On 3 GB database it takes only 3-5 seconds. Best regards, Sebastian Tymkow From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 10:15:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3491065679 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35C08FC2C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ky1u7-0005yH-Fx for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:15:55 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:15:55 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:15:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:15:47 +0200 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081001 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: gmirror + gjournal setup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:15:58 -0000 Gabriel Lavoie wrote: > Hello, > I would like to know what is the best way to setup gmirror + gjournal, > on a slice level on two hard drives. Do I set up a mirrored journal > partition + mirrored journalized slice (gmirror on top of gjournal) on which > I create my labels with bsdlabels (will create /dev/mirror/name.journal, > /dev/mirror/name.journala, /dev/mirror/name.journalb). Or I setup a > journalized slice on both hard drive and then I mirror /dev/ad0s1.journal > and /dev/ad1s1.journal (gjournal on top of gmirror)? I have hard time to > figure out what would be the best, if I want to avoid mirror rebuild on > power failure and I want fast fsck. I'd also like to make this setup on my > 1st slice (which contains the root filesystem). man gjournal: ... When gjournal is configured on top of gmirror(8) or graid3(8) providers, it also keeps them in a consistent state, thus automatic synchronization on power failure or system crash may be disabled on those providers. ... I think journaling a mirrored partition can be much better. -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 10:22:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C0D1065675 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EBA8FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from subbsd@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 30so2193131ugs.39 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:22:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:reply-to:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=+bjW/dYE2+gBk8z+CsAxBfoFIJ0nd224tGWvtcTAI1A=; b=m8yIETFkEfzcTJbSdmZI5N99QFM0AUzXSFdW0UPXMq6N9zjkOHUCwCy+nmYbPhlo2Y vLZ9lSz6jGWQgEyE6Ip+ztCeV0FPKE+wbp5ck4sdm7s6HXrvlq09fbTz3sg/Wp/SuctF R/5MvWq9/kLcdeE6K9tvoAd7VzHglqnrJD84o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:reply-to:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=e5LQznTSDWBqE0K9egPALRKjPKa0Y5dYC3eYlw7xWMK0rQXfL85ke0v299O2vSf78Z j1vD3kScy9ZDUzSYcID/5lPiSWpXqvws8LQwwoAkHVLCi359NelMjrrktYVCqlm2Q4mJ Fn0ZqUmw+yctpc1o5EZEoVYOKeXvjIz8kTlT4= Received: by 10.210.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr2214755eba.106.1225966941175; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from oleg.net.nevosoft.ru ([195.182.128.54]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 3sm1225283eyj.3.2008.11.06.02.22.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:22:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:22:18 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (FreeBSD/7.1-PRERELEASE; KDE/4.1.1; i386; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811061322.19218.subbsd@gmail.com> Subject: documentation for sysctl MIB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: subbsd@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:22:23 -0000 Hello maillist, I have to small question - Where i can get documentation for description some "base" sysctl variables? - And, what the diffrence between sysctl hw.machine hw.machine_arch ? For example, i extract i386 installation, but my hardware is EM64T and supporting AMD64 distribution correctly. Both variable get i386 value. One of them must be amd64? Thanks for your time From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 10:25:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154691065691 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:25:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26328FC2F for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:25:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ky22w-0006MX-Hb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:25:02 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:25:02 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:25:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:20:30 +0200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081001 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> Sender: news Subject: Re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:25:04 -0000 Carl wrote: > What are the considerations in choosing between "load", "prefer", > "round-robin", and "split" balance algorithms? "load" is currently not good at high loads, pr's pending... -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 10:28:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56851106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:28:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from unsane.co.uk (unsane-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f08:110::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25E28FC2B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Received: from sysaduse.the.namesco.net (sysaduse.the.namesco.net [85.233.163.128] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by unsane.co.uk (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id mA6ASh5d020576 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:28:44 GMT (envelope-from vince@unsane.co.uk) Message-ID: <4912C6D6.9040901@unsane.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:28:38 +0000 From: Vincent Hoffman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: subbsd@gmail.com References: <200811061322.19218.subbsd@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200811061322.19218.subbsd@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: documentation for sysctl MIB X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:28:41 -0000 Ole wrote: > Hello maillist, > > I have to small question > - Where i can get documentation for description some "base" sysctl variables? > - And, what the diffrence between > sysctl hw.machine hw.machine_arch > ? > > try sysctl -d $oid for example: jhary@crab (10:23:56 <~>) 0 $ sysctl -d hw.machine hw.machine_arch hw.machine: Machine class hw.machine_arch: System architecture jhary@crab (10:24:12 <~>) 0 $ sysctl hw.machine hw.machine_arch hw.machine: amd64 hw.machine_arch: amd64 > For example, i extract i386 installation, but my hardware is EM64T and > supporting AMD64 distribution correctly. Both variable get i386 value. One of > them must be amd64? > > > Thanks for your time > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 10:44:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E159C106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B538FC14 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.117]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPSA id 6455668 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:44:14 +0100 Message-ID: <4912CA7C.9050108@kukulies.org> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:44:12 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49106440.4010906@kukulies.org> <1225813899.2734.1.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <491090CE.1090900@hdk5.net> <49109409.8030601@kukulies.org> <4911C46A.7020401@kukulies.org> <4911C93E.4090803@kukulies.org> <20081105165148.GA15560@icarus.home.lan> <49120BE4.7010009@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: <49120BE4.7010009@kukulies.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 7.1-BETA2 installation from floppies - has anyone tried lately? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:44:17 -0000 In the vein of getting a way to install FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 onto my SATA IDE drive (otherwise still running 5.2.1. from IDE drives) I found in the seek of other methods to bootstrap myself, that the boot floppy hangs after asking for kern1 floppy. Could that be just bad media or could it have another cause. In other words: Has anyone tried to boot from a 7.1-BETA2 floppy set recently? Other suggestion of how to bootstrap me from 5.2.1 to 7.1 are welcome: Doing a cvs-sup ? (Is there still this method of updating FreeBSD? - I've been a while off from the front) Making my SATA drive (/dev/ar0) bootable and putting the contents of the distribution into it? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 10:45:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37271065674 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7278FC1D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:45:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6AW4LY029213 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:32:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6AW440029210 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:32:04 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:32:04 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: raid tool ZFS RAID-Z2 (RAID6) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:45:54 -0000 raidz is available for Freebsd through the file system format ZFS and is similar to RAID-5. Is that in FreeBSD 7.0 Production release? But there is also RAID-Z2 which uses two forms of parity to achieve results similar to RAID6: the ability to sustain up to two drive failures without losing data.. Does Freebsd 7.0 production release also support raid-z2? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 11:03:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E29106572C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0197a7f0d9=Ludovit_Koren@tempest.sk) Received: from mx2.tempest.sk (mx2.tempest.sk [195.28.127.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2438A8FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0197a7f0d9=Ludovit_Koren@tempest.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.tempest.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BFCE807A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:48:40 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tempest.sk Received: from mx2.tempest.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (igw2.tempest.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O7C4r77k1nsF for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:48:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tempest.sk (unknown [195.28.100.45]) by mx2.tempest.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:48:39 +0100 (CET) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from lk107.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.37]) by mail.tempest.sk (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0K9W00KYWRD3P1A0@mail.tempest.sk> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:48:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: koren@tempest.sk) by lk107.tempest.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B86911CC20; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:48:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:48:46 +0100 (CET) Message-id: <20081106.114846.107247756.koren@tempest.sk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ludovit Koren X-Mailer: Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Subject: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:03:56 -0000 Hi, I am using iwi0: mem 0xfafef000-0xfafeffff irq 9 at device 3.0 on pci2 # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0 which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets. I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file: source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile I am using kismet_server and kismet_client commands but I cannot see any received data (networks, packets, ...) I tried source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,ipw2200 as well with no success. Anyone was able to succeed with kismet? Is the Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200BG working with kismet at all? Any hints greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance. Regards, lk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 12:12:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700461065675 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:12:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f13.google.com (mail-gx0-f13.google.com [209.85.217.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D428FC2B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:12:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by gxk6 with SMTP id 6so398050gxk.19 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:12:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8kwh/WaYEuDEUS0svzHzCLMGJVQQAlnl7Xlilq+jt0A=; b=NLt4Mc+1vQjQu920jaOVTryB1h9BZxsOBlfXfsHj4cDvTif8STyRPavFEj0U7CHfJB 4bvYX/qBiAPrjrI/t+hnfLaQz0hYrEPCimBPL16CoF2eT33ycrR/qoYGI7t4HhCekgDk aF4guzAK1QYghH8brX1u8axQmV1Ywz6epalkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=StMtpS5Pcl8/+IQsNJfP0L/lWezb7lMnRa0/UUjIQOXjVhkFakw26dzcrio4P27dL9 RDygzmiApDoTpGOMR5XsqE6mm5+GYRmjRGWQVATWokLl+rc9QLl80+L2rYek7NJEpK4v poD3xKLJyxREMJCHSv2a0OsNG1UvSjDN9Qss0= Received: by 10.65.212.17 with SMTP id o17mr2165527qbq.60.1225973543794; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.216.9 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:12:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3a142e750811060412q4e145d93le221f46e1df9f3a8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:12:23 +0100 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Ludovit Koren" In-Reply-To: <20081106.114846.107247756.koren@tempest.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081106.114846.107247756.koren@tempest.sk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:12:26 -0000 On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren wrote: > > > Hi, > > I am using > > iwi0: mem 0xfafef000-0xfafeffff irq 9 at > device 3.0 on pci2 > > > # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko > # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0 > > which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When > I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets. > > I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file: > > source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile It should be: source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,iwi0 More information is required. Can you put iwi0 into monitor mode and use tcpdump instead? ifconfig iwi0 monitor From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 12:40:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4731065673 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:40:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ganbi@yahoo.com) Received: from web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.201.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15B168FC1B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:40:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ganbi@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 16218 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2008 12:13:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mGhbifsOD9uZYw31L8MtzwKNEcnYsaQzETSGhk9KDCpg3CohP0vewRgzcJFti9BY174JumtoIz+eF/u5gesU79SQc22vx3fN4nPpusVgOeD6ndL1avWoxeDhumUvIAgwYMWBLSPO2XLqRqarl44GsCh80KG/s6Utv/uxslDZtwA=; X-YMail-OSG: k3.TueAVM1n9beR2TizxzKmWHq8ospeUh3Qs0IItMpKzMqVrnwPSrjiJwNNOX.UakAKumr69JvW1jstljv2DJoyY60utiKHhM5H9zeCmvv0Uc0umQvKUWXTxJamfEhb0bJznDx4vlaoCRXdESA3sy0kUESRYKqPmtIYwg1U- Received: from [202.3.112.9] by web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:13:36 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 04:13:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ganesh kamath To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <877581.16197.qm@web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:45:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Geom multipath X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 12:40:17 -0000 Hi, I am trying to get multipath running in freebsd version 7. Are there any configuration files that i can tweak with geom multipath?. The paths are active/passive to the storage array and i dont seem to have control of what path the IO takes, so i was wondering if there are any tweaks thati could do to control the flow of IO to a specific path. Also, the IO doesnt resume when i try to do some cable pulls and plug them back. thanks! Gak From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 13:06:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF871065689 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:06:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116A28FC30 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:06:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me@janh.de) Received: from janh.freebsd (f054097186.adsl.alicedsl.de [78.54.97.186]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu8) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML31I-1Ky4ZC1ZE5-0003Gx; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:06:30 +0100 Message-ID: <4912EBD6.8070805@janh.de> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:06:30 +0100 From: Jan Henrik Sylvester User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080927) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludovit Koren References: 20081106.114846.107247756.koren@tempest.sk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19XHQBprSAQrSlqgCL5pMyd6XoGjPuRn4zu44Q 73994BK5Rza1T9/ZEBaJRDiHsURbZYaLj/6vu8G64OVR7YkU1g YTGzs7PBgDI2finOza9wg== Cc: questions-list freebsd Subject: Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:06:39 -0000 Ludovit wrote: > iwi0: mem 0xfafef000-0xfafeffff irq 9 > at device 3.0 on pci2 Monitor is broken on iwi on FreeBSD 7. I did report it during the 7.0-BETA, but there was at least one more report in the meantime. With exactly the same setup, I can use kismet with ural (ok), zyd (many broken packages), ral (ok), and ath (good, but see below). I do not receive a single package with iwi. I did replace my iwi miniPCI device by an ath one, which is more reliable anyhow. (iwi, as all Intel cards, occasionally dies and cannot reload firmware because of too little dma memory. That was reported a few times, too.) ath can monitor, even for longer periods of time, but if I do channel hopping in kismet, it often eventually stops receiving packages after a few minutes. Restarting kismet always fixes that. (I have had that with different ath cards.) iwi monitoring did work on 6.2, but often the card would not do regular networking after that until reboot and the problem with the firmware mentioned above was already present, although it was much better than on 6.1. For monitoring, you should either get a different card or try 6.X, 6-STABLE, or maybe 8-CURRENT. (I have no experience with the latter.) Cheers, Jan Henrik From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 13:22:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06303106567B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:22:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.225]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC37B8FC0A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:22:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so597464rvf.43 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:22:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IHWcbxsmsXizfutea5HjezV60qmOUVnRfZu5zPk5hLk=; b=Ssazi5XWFHp/fhreStzVUNis+bAwzX9o6ksnC2pc6n2Ko1THbIH9+kY4oKrg63F8F4 QQCblM6yPKEHosFSIFmw4jQOpvNthtSHwsimgbmEMUJTa2flFbVDjcPzAvvscnbrtoLp osIRRyXoy0EPhoaR9yP8Z+Oi5Tt+81DPR4ZVU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=j+9JdLOUgjOD1eWsVkp+YvUmhkzPZtMG7c1/WjkbntKucSkZh3QlJyZdwxUjNXK4aq NQN64I61ZQysO+K70C6JZ5yiOcoy/TngOAw1s/JzD8mgREZEmeTNMYknG3MCYjGo9kIS QA3k3lO7BsvTomaY+0qt1eFBwWeW9AOag2Ebs= Received: by 10.141.4.3 with SMTP id g3mr1177091rvi.284.1225977773132; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:22:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:22:53 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Volodymyr Kostyrko" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:22:54 -0000 As I asked in another thread, what is the problem with the "load" algorith? Thanks 2008/11/6 Volodymyr Kostyrko > Carl wrote: > > What are the considerations in choosing between "load", "prefer", >> "round-robin", and "split" balance algorithms? >> > > "load" is currently not good at high loads, pr's pending... > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 13:24:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E124C1065670 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E728FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glavoie@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so598107rvf.43 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:24:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=MFvQareFVZrQ/sJ51Fpw7J6pQ5QsaI0YG7ydfRF4vHg=; b=Oc4M3Loc1ETzTFJIAeYEG3Og2mU+lcoZ8ZFU0Bw6JvLpfP4CLCJgq7/gc0znwtHcJD uestkZ4z/9elAP+FnYD/VE3HM0xG8kSFoVeVWxGcdRTHPQV6RD5lKd2VcWcjxZXUpoTX Tdl91uBpYolYpGSVz/HY1nFo8XtyBJWAEUi98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=QYV5ID/xkT4MStQwH3A/KSoJ090mk6zwU2da7gVyZXADgmbpKZe1DFTTMMihMQrjUI IYlVowSXu8YZIlC3FbAxG8eNFXPz5yELcIAbUjUb2wkkzm6bpBdO03VreLboUS2UK5nH 8Gs7iXRpe3yAbMMnq/yJ/wn0i1KFHMPwxPLKU= Received: by 10.141.79.12 with SMTP id g12mr1179956rvl.0.1225977861187; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 05:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.146.8 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 05:24:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 08:24:21 -0500 From: "Gabriel Lavoie" To: "Volodymyr Kostyrko" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gmirror + gjournal setup question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:24:22 -0000 Thanks for your reply. I finally understood that with the "power failure" tests I made. Gabriel 2008/11/6 Volodymyr Kostyrko > Gabriel Lavoie wrote: > >> Hello, >> I would like to know what is the best way to setup gmirror + gjournal, >> on a slice level on two hard drives. Do I set up a mirrored journal >> partition + mirrored journalized slice (gmirror on top of gjournal) on >> which >> I create my labels with bsdlabels (will create /dev/mirror/name.journal, >> /dev/mirror/name.journala, /dev/mirror/name.journalb). Or I setup a >> journalized slice on both hard drive and then I mirror /dev/ad0s1.journal >> and /dev/ad1s1.journal (gjournal on top of gmirror)? I have hard time to >> figure out what would be the best, if I want to avoid mirror rebuild on >> power failure and I want fast fsck. I'd also like to make this setup on my >> 1st slice (which contains the root filesystem). >> > > man gjournal: > ... > When gjournal is configured on top of gmirror(8) or graid3(8) > providers, > it also keeps them in a consistent state, thus automatic > synchronization > on power failure or system crash may be disabled on those providers. > ... > > I think journaling a mirrored partition can be much better. > > -- > Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Gabriel Lavoie glavoie@gmail.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 13:27:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4CB1065676 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C408FC28 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 13:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ky4tC-0004un-3r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from utwig.xim.bz ([195.184.197.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:27:10 +0000 Received: from c.kworr by utwig.xim.bz with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:27:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Volodymyr Kostyrko Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:26:59 +0200 Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: utwig.xim.bz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; ru-RU; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20081001 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:27:17 -0000 Gabriel Lavoie wroted: > As I asked in another thread, what is the problem with the "load" algorith? I've already pointed you in the other tread to http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113885 :) -- Sphinx of black quartz judge my vow. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 14:32:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6183E106568C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from creddym@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6678FC35 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:32:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from creddym@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so321803nfh.33 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:32:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4s0i0SYRW/G7uSny99L/lGUYrv6bO/UbTcPj7JEHgPE=; b=DymRZJmkSEktlIYoVWe9xRVd/JufcwRnGct03N3u6i+pLiS54khfrhTSwKdoXdzi6x fZfrQFYzCzAbXIGJleQIk9iQe73KM7DStSZw86KQ9btqtT9FENPhf+sBEXxdipPv/c9a zneqMzyRRRFM8sRidVwvWR+1dc1bXUZgIXuk8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=PIMzUSXfik9d6yOa7xVfJqXaH6mbUJkifG8UzGtR6TJHWzend01Qh74/AZ9amJAPE/ ZKedymi7qQg9ZU/0V+InWUHRur1ZeseDm/dNJ0ZINzm7hzeziT/DVmut+WlkzOJyZf3L GVU6iXuwiI3eYyEdXRv1Li5QAwF+d7mpEbNng= Received: by 10.210.24.12 with SMTP id 12mr2475777ebx.31.1225980336255; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.210.115.4 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:05:36 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3f95d3db0811060605i652967dbmd22d5239471ca6d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:35:36 +0530 From: "chandra reddy" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3f95d3db0811060603lfee9e56g4ddcf348e7213713@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3f95d3db0811060603lfee9e56g4ddcf348e7213713@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Assmbler Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:32:16 -0000 Hi, I am building FreeBSD kernel with gcc 4.1.1. I can see the foloowing assembler error: My assemler version is GNU assembler 2.17 ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s: Assembler messages: ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s:362: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s:379: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' ../../../../../src/bsd/sys/i386/i386/locore.s:397: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' *** Error code 1 (continuing) The code in lcore.s is : movl UC_GS(%eax),%gs /* restore %gs */ movl UC4_GS(%eax),%gs /* restore %gs */ movl SC_GS(%eax),%gs /* restore %gs */ What is the patch for this problem? what should I use mov/movw? The same errors for bsd/sys/i386/i386/swtch.s movl %gs,PCB_GS(%edx) movl PCB_GS(%edx),%gs movl %gs,PCB_GS(%ecx) bsd/sys/i386/include/cpufunc.h __asm __volatile("movl %%gs,%0" : "=rm" (sel)); __asm __volatile("mov %0,%%fs" : : "rm" (sel)); __asm __volatile("movl %0,%%gs" : : "rm" (sel)); Thanks Chandra -- "debugging a buggy debugger with a cross buggy debugger leads to a buggy life " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 14:35:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1108D1065676 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:35:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from werkwelt.de (post.werkwelt.de [91.194.85.74]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F1A8FC32 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kuku@kukulies.org) Received: from [87.79.34.228] (account kuku@kukulies.org HELO [192.168.1.114]) by werkwelt.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.13) with ESMTPA id 6455740 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:35:38 +0100 Message-ID: <4913008F.6010106@kukulies.org> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:34:55 +0100 From: Christoph Kukulies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: hit some FS/slice size limit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:35:43 -0000 I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive under the FreeBSD 7.1 sysinstall (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached to USB on my notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for the / partition (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I know, one should granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got told that it could not create the slice (too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size? -- Christoph From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 14:53:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 804E11065674 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF358FC1E for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:53:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:51890 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ky6EZ-0002NJ-3L for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:53:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 19405 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 15:53:16 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 6 Nov 2008 15:53:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 35427 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Nov 2008 15:53:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:53:16 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Christoph Kukulies Message-ID: <20081106145316.GA35387@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <4913008F.6010106@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4913008F.6010106@kukulies.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Ky6EZ-0002NJ-3L. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Ky6EZ-0002NJ-3L 04c79dbb757c6363de07c71c1e5900ec Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hit some FS/slice size limit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:53:20 -0000 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 03:34:55PM +0100, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive under the FreeBSD 7.1 > sysinstall (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached > to USB on my notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for > the / partition (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I > know, one should > granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got > told that it could not create the slice > (too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size? There is a limit on FreeBSD slice size, but it is larger than that. No, I suspect you just got caught out by different definitions of 'GB' Segate (like all other harddisk manufacturers) uses the SI-prefixes correctly and has 'G' mean one billion (1000,000,000). So your disk is 500,000,000,000 bytes large (actually slightly more than that.) This is about equal to 465*1024*1024*1024 or 465 of what FreeBSD (and many other OSs) calls a 'GB'. I.e. the 472 GB slice you tried to create is larger than the disk is. ( See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix for much information about the different meanings of 'GB' and resulting confusion. ) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 14:55:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0921065672 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8A48FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:55:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 469 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 14:55:41 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2008 14:55:40 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 7A6C15084F; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:55:38 -0500 (EST) To: "Wilson Ribeiro" References: <740646d0811040327v6a289819t2ef01527fb83b130@mail.gmail.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:55:38 -0500 In-Reply-To: <740646d0811040327v6a289819t2ef01527fb83b130@mail.gmail.com> (Wilson Ribeiro's message of "Tue\, 4 Nov 2008 09\:27\:43 -0200") Message-ID: <44abccj445.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wireless Nic rtl8187se X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:55:42 -0000 "Wilson Ribeiro" writes: > Hi people, > > i recently bought a MSI Wind U100x and couldnt configure my wireless nic > because it was not identified, how can i identify my wireless nic? Was it probed on boot at all? -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 14:59:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086401065677 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:59:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72958FC23 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 30795 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 14:59:27 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail8.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2008 14:59:27 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id CEA055084F; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 09:59:25 -0500 (EST) To: "fire jotawski" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:59:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: (fire jotawski's message of "Wed\, 5 Nov 2008 15\:58\:33 +0700") Message-ID: <4463n0j3xu.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup: local X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:59:28 -0000 "fire jotawski" writes: > i have my small box, 10.3.1.25 ip, that cvsup-ed files from repository into > it. it use cvs-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ to collect files. > now that i want my other machine to cvsup 6.2-release source files from the > one mentioned above. > > my trial was > > cvsupd -b /var/db -c sup > > for box, 10.3.1.25 ip, and for other machine > > cvsup -g -L 2 -h 10.3.1.25 sup-file > > what i got was 'Server message: Unknown collection "src-all" ' message. > and later on > > Running > Skipping collection src-all/cvs > Skipping collection doc-all/cvs > Shutting down connection to server > Finished successfully > > very strange indeed. > > any helps and hints in setting cvsup server would highly be appreciated. To run cvsupd, you need the whole cvs tree for the collections you're handling, not just the checked-out files. Assuming these machines are attached by a protected network, a better approach (easier, anyway) would probably be to cvsup the changes to just one machine, then NFS-mount that machine's ports tree from the other machine. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 15:02:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9299B1065678 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9538FC1C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:02:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 11251 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 15:02:56 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail1.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 6 Nov 2008 15:02:56 -0000 Received: by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 2DC175084F; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:02:56 -0500 (EST) To: "Gian Paolo Buono" References: From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:02:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Gian Paolo Buono's message of "Mon\, 3 Nov 2008 11\:23\:56 +0100") Message-ID: <441vxoj3rz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:02:57 -0000 "Gian Paolo Buono" writes: > from web ports I have see ( > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=nagios-3&stype=all&sektion=all) > that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my system > the version nagios-3.0.3. > > Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands: > > cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex > > When the upgrade is finished, i run: > portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios > > but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present. > > This is my /etc/make.conf file: > > #############make.conf################# > CPUTYPE= i686 > CFLAGS= -O -pipe > INSTALL= install -C > SUP_UPDATE= yes > SUP= /usr/local/bin/cvsup > SUPFLAGS= -g -L 2 > SUPHOST= cvsup18.FreeBSD.org > SUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile > PORTSSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile > DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile > WRKDIRPREFIX= /var/tmp > WITHOUT_GNOME= true > WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES= true > MAKE_IDEA= YES > WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS= yes > PERL_ARCH= mach > NOPERL= yo > NO_PERL= yo > NO_PERL_WRAPPER= yo > #############make.conf################# > > > cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ? cvsup18 has the latest. You're obviously having trouble with the index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date. Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing the new version. -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 15:06:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07667106567D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:06:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1B88FC20 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:06:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mA6F6EFv003204; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:06:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:06:13 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <877581.16197.qm@web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <877581.16197.qm@web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811061006.13445.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Ganesh kamath Subject: Re: Geom multipath X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:06:16 -0000 On Thursday 06 November 2008 07:13:36 am Ganesh kamath wrote: > I am trying to get multipath running in freebsd version 7. Are there > any configuration files that i can tweak with geom multipath?. The > paths are active/passive to the storage array and i dont seem to have > control of what path the IO takes, so i was wondering if there are any > tweaks thati could do to control the flow of IO to a specific path. Read the manpage. Thoroughly. gmultipath(8). :) There is only one active path to any device, and it is the first in the list of devices. You specify the device list when you create the provider and it is updated if errors occur and when gmultipath labeled devices reappear. I would guess/hope that the order would be preserved across a reboot but I'm not sure. That type of question might be suitable for the freebsd-geom@ mailing list. > Also, the IO doesnt resume when i try to do some cable pulls and plug > them back. If you're not using an mpt or isp disk controller then you have to initiate a rescan manually for the device to reappear. See camcontrol and/or atacontrol. When the device _does_ reappear it will be inserted at the end of the list, so I/O will continue across the alternate path which is still first in the list. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 15:20:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE9A106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:20:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51D78FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:20:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr15.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6FKCod086210 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:20:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:20:13 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE222@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1 Thread-Index: AclAIUEz28e9T+DxTKWvkgTYYkRVQQAAWOwg References: <441vxoj3rz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: RE: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:20:18 -0000 >> from web ports I have see ( >> = http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=3Dnagios-3&stype=3Dall&sektion= =3Dall) >> that is relased the version nagios-3.0.4_1 of nagios but I have on my = system >> the version nagios-3.0.3. >> >> Now if i try to update nagios from cvsup I run the follow comands: >> >> cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex >> >> When the upgrade is finished, i run: >> portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios >> >> but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present. >> >> This is my /etc/make.conf file: >> >> #############make.conf################# >> CPUTYPE=3D i686 >> CFLAGS=3D -O -pipe >> INSTALL=3D install -C >> SUP_UPDATE=3D yes >> SUP=3D /usr/local/bin/cvsup >> SUPFLAGS=3D -g -L 2 >> SUPHOST=3D cvsup18.FreeBSD.org >> SUPFILE=3D /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile >> PORTSSUPFILE=3D /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile >> DOCSUPFILE=3D /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile >> WRKDIRPREFIX=3D /var/tmp >> WITHOUT_GNOME=3D true >> WANT_OPENSSL_MANPAGES=3D true >> MAKE_IDEA=3D YES >> WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=3D yes >> PERL_ARCH=3D mach >> NOPERL=3D yo >> NO_PERL=3D yo >> NO_PERL_WRAPPER=3D yo >> #############make.conf################# >> >> >> cvsup18.FreeBSD.org has not yet updated ? Have you an idea ? >cvsup18 has the latest. You're obviously having trouble with the >index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what >portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date. >Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing >the new version. I had the same thing, the makefile has the latest, butpkg_version did = not detect the new nagios. What I did was going to /usr/port/net-mgmt/nagios And did a: make FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=3Dyes install clean It installed nagios 3.0.4 Regards, Johan Hendriks No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: = 6-11-2008 7:58 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 15:27:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0B5106568A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0197a7f0d9=Ludovit_Koren@tempest.sk) Received: from mx1.tempest.sk (mx1.tempest.sk [195.28.127.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E50A8FC29 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=0197a7f0d9=Ludovit_Koren@tempest.sk) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.tempest.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E898B100A8 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:27:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tempest.sk Received: from mx1.tempest.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (igw1.tempest.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3rXit-HJPLzX for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:27:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.tempest.sk (unknown [195.28.100.45]) by mx1.tempest.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:27:50 +0100 (CET) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Received: from lk107.tempest.sk ([195.28.109.37]) by mail.tempest.sk (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-6.03 (built Mar 14 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0K9X005S64AEIW00@mail.tempest.sk> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:27:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: koren@tempest.sk) by lk107.tempest.sk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DF7E41CC20; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:28:01 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:27:58 +0100 (CET) Message-id: <20081106.162758.241905169.koren@tempest.sk> To: "Paul B. Mahol" From: Ludovit Koren In-reply-to: <3a142e750811060412q4e145d93le221f46e1df9f3a8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081106.114846.107247756.koren@tempest.sk> <3a142e750811060412q4e145d93le221f46e1df9f3a8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: xcite1.57> Mew version 6.1 on Emacs 22.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:27:54 -0000 >>>>> On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:12:23 +0100 >>>>> onemda@gmail.com("Paul B. Mahol") said: > > On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am using > > > > iwi0: mem 0xfafef000-0xfafeffff irq 9 at > > device 3.0 on pci2 > > > > > > # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko > > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko > > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko > > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko > > # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0 > > > > which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When > > I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets. > > > > I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file: > > > > source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile > > It should be: > > source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,iwi0 I tried it even with this, no success > > More information is required. Can you put iwi0 into monitor mode and > use tcpdump instead? > > ifconfig iwi0 monitor > I cannot capture any packet. lk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 15:36:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1E7106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6B48FC16 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:36:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC32AFC1C6; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 06:36:20 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:36:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <441vxoj3rz.fsf@be-well.ilk.org> <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE222@w2003s01.double-l.local> In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE222@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811061636.04593.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Johan Hendriks Subject: Re: CVSup update nagios-3.0.4_1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:36:21 -0000 On Thursday 06 November 2008 16:20:13 Johan Hendriks wrote: > >> cd /usr/ports/ ; make update ; make fetchindex > >> > >> When the upgrade is finished, i run: > >> portversion -l '<' -v | grep nagios > >> > >> but nagios-3.0.4_1 is not present. [cut make.conf] > >cvsup18 has the latest. You're obviously having trouble with the > >index file, because that (or a database derived therefrom) is what > >portversion is looking at to determine what's out of date. > > > >Check the ports-mgmt/nagios/Makefile to be sure it is in fact showing > >the new version. > > I had the same thing, the makefile has the latest, butpkg_version did not > detect the new nagios. What I did was going to /usr/port/net-mgmt/nagios > And did a: > make FORCE_PKG_REGISTER=yes install clean > It installed nagios 3.0.4 Lowell is correct. You need to run `portsdb -uU' after any modification of the ports tree for the portupgrade tools to see new versions. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 15:54:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221C1065687 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from hs-out-0708.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.240]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B798FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by hs-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id 54so283584hsz.11 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:54:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=K7ZH8P/ypyLLmWDAqA/dolBrmPbOmQlB/wVGazZUpP4=; b=UYphi3a0kgPnOnbSXUp7mUNT4wbGYCTm2Mt+3m+VIFspO5kjhSu/IjctsFv0UIKSVM isSDfE7A18MU3+uAnZv/Ivi71QAw0/HLZziKQSmnWFXbkInxqXHGOzNWy2IdNNJaRpqX +CVV6D5p/cBGEvHPkdR2Dr+F61wIWbUijX5wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AM/Uw0DMEKg7FsopeG9SP3wxWhEfgfU9V2wrY3xXVTEXuPK2fE+QAzE9DeOUGz9Ha/ DK8Xk0oacNkFd+288Wih1ArfI+zfErxs/LIGjW6/PP85QJ5NbaqT2coFb1+traBxqLez 4b6kjGDXO3Wpmpyq2cJ+89U60NfNLdlA9Aj0g= Received: by 10.65.233.16 with SMTP id k16mr2431322qbr.40.1225986862028; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.216.9 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:54:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3a142e750811060754s37ec0ef2v4babbf2420757d0e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:54:21 +0100 From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: "Ludovit Koren" In-Reply-To: <20081106.162758.241905169.koren@tempest.sk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081106.114846.107247756.koren@tempest.sk> <3a142e750811060412q4e145d93le221f46e1df9f3a8@mail.gmail.com> <20081106.162758.241905169.koren@tempest.sk> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kismet on FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:54:26 -0000 On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:12:23 +0100 >>>>>> onemda@gmail.com("Paul B. Mahol") said: >> >> On 11/6/08, Ludovit Koren wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I am using >> > >> > iwi0: mem 0xfafef000-0xfafeffff irq 9 at >> > device 3.0 on pci2 >> > >> > >> > # kldload /boot/kernel/if_iwi.ko >> > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_bss.ko >> > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_ibss.ko >> > # kldload /boot/kernel/iwi_monitor.ko >> > # /etc/rc.d/wpa_supplicant start iwi0 >> > >> > which is working fine when I am using it connecting to WiFi net. When >> > I am using wpa_cli scan and scan_results I can see different nets. >> > >> > I have the following configuration line in the kismet.conf file: >> > >> > source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,pcapfile >> >> It should be: >> >> source=radiotap_bsd_ab,iwi0,iwi0 > > I tried it even with this, no success > >> >> More information is required. Can you put iwi0 into monitor mode and >> use tcpdump instead? >> >> ifconfig iwi0 monitor >> > > I cannot capture any packet. Then it is iwi driver problem. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 16:03:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0996C106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:03:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946F28FC1B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:03:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6G333T001692 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:03:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6G337o001689 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:03:03 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:03:03 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:03:05 -0000 Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive. If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD? How can you make the added disk-space available for FreeBSD. Can this be done without shutting down the system? How?? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 16:10:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3FF106567D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: from mail.nexlabs.com (www.nexlabs.com [210.193.32.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6BA8FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:10:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhfoo-ml@extracktor.com) Received: (qmail 73248 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2008 16:10:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.22?) (jhfoo@nexlabs.com@222.165.35.106) by www.nexlabs.com with SMTP; 6 Nov 2008 16:10:34 -0000 Message-ID: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:10:41 +0800 From: Foo JH User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:10:41 -0000 Hi there, Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 16:35:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D461065676 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC868FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA6GVZtM044128; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:31:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA6GVZeK044127; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:31:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:31:34 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Foo JH Message-ID: <20081106163134.GD43844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:35:12 -0000 On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:10:41AM +0800, Foo JH wrote: > Hi there, > > Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I > may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono > on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. > > To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: > 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? > 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? > 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it > better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? FreeBSD suppports just about any programming language that has been created. If you go to /usr/ports/lang/ you will see a large list of them that you can install. As for the most common, well, C and C++, Shells such as SH, CSH/TCSH and Perl are very common, plus in conjunction with web servers such as Apache, PHP, Python, Ruby and a number of others are common. If you are doing number crunching, you can use FORTRAN and if you are in to historical business environments, there is even Cobol. As for being optimized for a language, it is more likely the other way around. Are there any languages that have good optimization for running on FreeBSD. Maybe. Someone else may know more about that, than I do. ////jerry > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 16:36:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7612D1065697 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from kanga.honeypot.net (kanga.honeypot.net [IPv6:2001:470:a80a:1:21f:d0ff:fe22:b8a8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCB98FC25 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:36:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kirk@strauser.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D07F944FD4 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:36:47 -0600 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at honeypot.net Received: from kanga.honeypot.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kanga.honeypot.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XfY0hsLbqP90 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:36:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from athena.localnet (athena.daycos.com [IPv6:2001:470:c054:1:221:9bff:fe00:de3f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by kanga.honeypot.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28F7C944FBB for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:36:45 -0600 (CST) From: Kirk Strauser To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:36:26 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.10.1 (Linux/2.6.27-7-generic; KDE/4.1.2; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811061036.26693.kirk@strauser.com> Subject: Ideal SCSI adapter for me? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:36:48 -0000 I have a FreeBSD 7/amd64 system with a newly incompatible SCSI adapter (see kern/128452 for details). I want to switch to a card that's still supported but don't want to spend an arm and a leg since its whole purpose in live will be to connect my UW-SCSI tape drive. Any recommendations for cheap, minimal cards that are known to work well with recent FreeBSD releases? -- Kirk Strauser From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 17:21:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910AE106567A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547368FC20 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-106-204.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.106.204]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3592650B3A; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:21:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA6HLeZl001541; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:21:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:21:40 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Kirk Strauser Message-Id: <20081106182140.b5b3be9a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <200811061036.26693.kirk@strauser.com> References: <200811061036.26693.kirk@strauser.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ideal SCSI adapter for me? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:21:43 -0000 On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:36:26 -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I have a FreeBSD 7/amd64 system with a newly incompatible SCSI adapter (see > kern/128452 for details). I want to switch to a card that's still supported > but don't want to spend an arm and a leg since its whole purpose in live will > be to connect my UW-SCSI tape drive. Any recommendations for cheap, minimal > cards that are known to work well with recent FreeBSD releases? I had used an Adaptec 2940 U/W PCI SCSI controller to connect a tape drive, no problems; the ahc driver (from vers. 4 up to 7) worked well. It would even run a scanner, a JAZ drive, a CD-ROM drive and a PD drive (if anyone still knows what this is), as well as different hard disks. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 17:28:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE53106564A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB4E8FC1A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr1.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA6HSIbm071640; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:28:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 127FEBAA1; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:28:18 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:28:18 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Foo JH Message-ID: <20081106172818.GA39709@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:28:23 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:10:41AM +0800, Foo JH wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I > may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono > on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. As a re-implementation of microsofts .NET, I personally wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Although some parts are an ECMA "standard", as a developer you can never be sure that microsoft won't hit you with a patent lawsuit if they perceive you as treading on their turf. Experience has taught the microsoft cannot be trusted. > To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: > 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? See all the ports in /usr/ports/lang. For systems programming or if speed is of the essence, I use C. For scripting the standard Bourne Shell (sh) is still OK. For massaging large quantities of text, Perl still works very well, and there is a huge number of modules (libraries) available. Lua is becoming a new personal favorite of mine for scripts. It is fast, small and easy.=20 > 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? No. Performance of scripting languages is usually not a big problem anymore because of the increased speed of new computers. And it depends more on the interpreter of the language in question than on the host OS. Of course compiled languages can run faster than interpreted ones. > 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it > better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? There is no big difference between FreeBSD and Linux here. Pretty much everything that runs on Linux runs on FreeBSD as well. Both are a pretty popular development platforms, e.g. for web apps. Think PHP, Ruby on Rails etc.=20 Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkTKTEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUtvACgpSDpcSz4CbaSrN1LOgUnX33V L/gAn3tIl22h4VN88QGQ4rldvAocPPwA =emFc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 18:13:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3477C10656A7 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:13:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay01.plus.net (ptb-relay01.plus.net [212.159.14.145]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAEDF8FC22 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay01.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1Ky9MX-00072H-Vf for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:13:46 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ky9MX-00046R-BU for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:13:45 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:13:45 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: adb1f5172bb0ce287fa953a838948ddc Subject: Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:13:48 -0000 I've installed en-openoffice.org-GB-3.0.0 from ports on my 6.4-RC1 system. The install, using the command portinstall -m "LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB -DWITH_KDE" editors/openoffice.org-3, appeared to complete OK and I can run /usr/local/bin/openoffice.org-3.0.0-swriter but attempts to check spelling in a document with known spelling errors always fail to find any errors. The "Available language modules" section in Tools - Options - Language Settings - Writing Aids" is empty, unlike my copy of Openoffice 2.3 which has 3 entries in this section. Should the language modules have been installed or have I missed anything when installing the port? -- Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 18:28:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D68D106567B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:28:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B3BC8FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:28:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 2315 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Nov 2008 18:28:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=krpuSQv7fjmHbOevnBS5FMc0qD4QY/LWahUx/FaHGDckQ2AdtTzQdGpXu2/j9WpSMTR2/8ewthir6s8E4T148TLWsXRrVC3azm2lLZ2Nq+0LiWG/ouowwjt9jJFbCSDp0c5sfbkloToDsh8JWzOyHO/N2b1/D9v1MGJuR67GMMk=; X-YMail-OSG: zBKw5VwVM1lgozWZ4kN05owDLp51dH_CN91siUmuqTfg5ERPTVMek1dt180rT2vVPZ5DfCRiejiNG4gCtfSRbyWS9ZPkXHf5B9Fs0xq38BvxJmR6k.6yvC_7kgFoFrbnx9XE5V5dTp3KCI.aDBIWfYuQUvAu2SYwRZu8.B.syF.IQXzv_4I0EzMAJk4DOg-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:28:00 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:28:00 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Foo JH In-Reply-To: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <380823.1926.qm@web56806.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:28:01 -0000 --- On Thu, 11/6/08, Foo JH wrote: > From: Foo JH > Subject: what is your programming language on freebsd? > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 11:10 AM > Hi there, > > Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on > FreeBSD. I > may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression > is that mono > on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. I am not sure what leads you to believe that. Mono in general isn't as popular as, say, GNU's compiler collection. That said, it runs just fine on FreeBSD. There are motivated folks working to get more ports added, such as for monodevelop. There's a google group for this, though, it's called bsd-sharp. You may want to try there if you have problems related to Mono on FreeBSD and there aren't any helpful answers forthcoming on the seemingly-appropriate freebsd.org list. > > To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD > community: > 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? I've worked with C, Perl, C# (mono), and Ruby. There are very few programming languages that you can't use to write code that is intended to run on FreeBSD. Most of these are anachronistic languages that no longer serve a useful purpose on any reasonably modern system, having been defunct for 20 or more years. > 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any > particular language? No more than any other OS. Some languages may be better optimized than others, but you can't really optimize an OS to a language. > 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development > platform, or is it > better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS > server)? FreeBSD is a fine development platform. In fact, it offers some things that developers like that other systems don't have. kqueue is very nice, and there are also little things such as the reallocf() function that are helpful as well. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 20:56:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E708A1065670 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110DA8FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6KtvM3028090; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:55:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6KtuG3028087; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:55:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:55:56 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Kirk Strauser In-Reply-To: <200811061036.26693.kirk@strauser.com> Message-ID: <20081106215515.N28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <200811061036.26693.kirk@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ideal SCSI adapter for me? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:56:07 -0000 > I have a FreeBSD 7/amd64 system with a newly incompatible SCSI adapter (see > kern/128452 for details). I want to switch to a card that's still supported > but don't want to spend an arm and a leg since its whole purpose in live will > be to connect my UW-SCSI tape drive. Any recommendations for cheap, minimal > cards that are known to work well with recent FreeBSD releases? any used adaptec or symbios logic will work for sure. in Poland UW-SCSI adapters are for <20$ used :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 21:01:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62081065674 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:01:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB2A8FC13 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:01:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6L1dtS028134; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6L1duH028131; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:01:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:01:46 -0000 > Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a > hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, what is "RAID5 of RAID6"??? > > To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive. > > If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra > disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and > add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD? FreeBSD will see larger drive. you then have to fix partition table (use bsdlabel -e) fix c partition to be actually sized of whole drive, and then a) add new partition(s) for new space b) extend the size of last partition and use growfs > How can you make the added disk-space available for FreeBSD. > Can this be done without shutting down the system? How?? i don't think FreeBSD can be told to reget device info from controller when partitions of that device are mounted. but i may be wrong From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 21:03:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEBB106568B for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:03:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F23B18FC17 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:03:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6L35PB028147; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:03:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6L339Y028144; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:03:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:03:03 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Foo JH In-Reply-To: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> Message-ID: <20081106220151.N28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:03:16 -0000 > may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono > on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. > > To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: > 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? whatever i need. i personally use mostly C. > 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? i don't think so. > 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it > better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? i don't know how popular it is for what tasks. but it works excellent for all you specified. it's unix anyway. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 21:06:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA2C1065674 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:06:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0AE8FC19 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:06:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6L6F87028172; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:06:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6L6Ftl028169; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:06:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:06:15 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20081106172818.GA39709@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20081106220335.Q28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> <20081106172818.GA39709@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Foo JH , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:06:28 -0000 >> on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. > > As a re-implementation of microsofts .NET, I personally wouldn't touch > it with a ten foot pole. Although some parts are an ECMA "standard", as > a developer you can never be sure that microsoft won't hit you with a > patent lawsuit if they perceive you as treading on their > turf. Experience has taught the microsoft cannot be trusted. as all "portable" things microsoft created will actually work completely only in windows. anyway - i don't see any sense in using it if you are not forced to use windows. if you are - it would be better to use windows for that. >> 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? > > No. Performance of scripting languages is usually not a big problem > anymore because of the increased speed of new computers. And it depends scripting language are not made to be fast running, but to "mix" many other programs to get result fast and easy. > more on the interpreter of the language in question than on the host > OS. Of course compiled languages can run faster than interpreted ones. as on every OS. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 21:09:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE059106568D for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:09:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D76F98FC16 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6L9Pas028185; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:09:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6L9PQg028182; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:09:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:09:25 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Christoph Kukulies In-Reply-To: <4913008F.6010106@kukulies.org> Message-ID: <20081106220731.B28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <4913008F.6010106@kukulies.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hit some FS/slice size limit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:09:33 -0000 > I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive under the FreeBSD 7.1 sysinstall > (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached to USB on my > notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for the / partition > (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I know, one should no - it's actually the best choice - one partition+swap, or no swap on modern machines with many GB RAM. > granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got told > that it could not create the slice > (too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size? no idea. i don't use slices because my FreeBSD drives doesn't need to interoperate with DOS/Windoze. i never use sysinstall too :), simply use disklabel without making slices, make partitions and go on. my largest "drive" (gstripe) was 3TB, works fine with bsdlabel and UFS From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 21:10:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F5C1065688 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:10:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919098FC20 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:10:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6LATIu028199; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:10:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA6LASA3028196; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:10:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:10:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Volodymyr Kostyrko In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081106221010.J28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <48FE709D.9080907@telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up gmirror X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:10:36 -0000 > >> What are the considerations in choosing between "load", "prefer", >> "round-robin", and "split" balance algorithms? > > "load" is currently not good at high loads, pr's pending... > so change it to round-robin? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 21:28:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7561065670 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADAE8FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:28:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F3FAFC1C6; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 12:28:28 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:28:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811062228.27821.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Pieter Donche Subject: Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:28:30 -0000 On Thursday 06 November 2008 22:01:39 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a > > hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, > > what is "RAID5 of RAID6"??? 'of' is 'or' in dutch, common typo for dutch or flemish people. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 22:15:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34F3106567C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B308FC0C for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:15:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA6MBXED045642; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:11:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA6MBXTa045641; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:11:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:11:33 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081106221133.GB45532@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <4913008F.6010106@kukulies.org> <20081106220731.B28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081106220731.B28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Christoph Kukulies , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hit some FS/slice size limit? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:15:08 -0000 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:09:25PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >I partitioned my Seagate 500 GB Sata drive under the FreeBSD 7.1 > >sysinstall (booted from the install CD while having the drive attached to > >USB on my notebook). When creating the filesystems I chose 472 G for the / > >partition (wanted to put everything into one partition - yeah, I know, one > >should > > no - it's actually the best choice - one partition+swap, or no swap on > modern machines with many GB RAM. Remember, "best" depends on cirsumstance and need. It is definitely not best for all. But, it works well for some. It is usually good to separate OS from services and data, but not always. It is also often helpful to divide things in to manageable sized chunks, but that is not always meaningful. ////jerry > > >granulate this finer, but I didn' t want to bother right now). I got told > >that it could not create the slice > >(too big? it said). Hmm, is there some limit on a FreeBSD slice size? > > no idea. i don't use slices because my FreeBSD drives doesn't need to > interoperate with DOS/Windoze. > > i never use sysinstall too :), simply use disklabel without making slices, > make partitions and go on. > > my largest "drive" (gstripe) was 3TB, works fine with bsdlabel and UFS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 22:31:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFD1106567E for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harm@weites.com) Received: from hellfish.weites.com (hellfish.weites.com [194.50.163.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71308FC16 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from harm@weites.com) Received: from cc1295437-a.zlr1.dr.home.nl ([212.120.94.226] helo=[10.0.0.100]) by hellfish.weites.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KyCvy-00067D-Vh for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:02:35 +0100 From: Harm Weites To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:18:29 +0100 Message-Id: <1226006309.3180.27.camel@laptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 (2.22.3.1-1.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use Antivirus software Subject: flexible install.cfg url from kernel parameters X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: harm@weites.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:31:54 -0000 Hi all, in an effort to create a jumpstart/kickstart-like environment for easy OS deployment i, ofcourse, ran into install.cfg for FreeBSD. It works great, but since it requires a modified image (with an inserted install.cfg file) it's not a great option. It even needs a BSD box or CentOS with plus kernel to access the ufs filesystem inside the image... Is there any effort beeing done to allow for a more convenient way to load the install.cfg? Say, like linux does with kickstart/preseed files? Just fill in some weblocation as kernel parameter and you're done :) I would suspect this beeing coded in sysinstall somewhere, or perhaps init? Any suggestions/help is appreciated. Regards Harm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 23:10:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF332106567E for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584198FC18 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:10:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0772C35FA3; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:07:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:12:01 +0100 From: cpghost To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081106231201.GA54707@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> <20081106172818.GA39709@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20081106220335.Q28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081106220335.Q28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:10:45 -0000 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:06:15PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >> 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? > > > > No. Performance of scripting languages is usually not a big problem > > anymore because of the increased speed of new computers. And it depends > > scripting language are not made to be fast running, but to "mix" many > other programs to get result fast and easy. Most scripting languages can be used in hybrid environments, and will be pretty fast if they call compiled functions for CPU-intensive tasks. As an example: in Python, you can call compiled functions in dynamic libraries directly with the ctypes module; no need to recompile anything directly. Alternatively or in addition to this, just write your own extension module in C/Python either manually, or with code generators like SWIG to optimize CPU bottlenecks or call into / link against other compiled code. Hybrid systems are usually very fast to set up, yet don't significantly sacrifice speed. Ever used numpy, scipy etc. with optimized C and FORTRAN libraries (ATLAS, FFTW3 etc.) in Python for big numeric computations? Works like a charm and is pretty fast too. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 23:56:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A95C106567A for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:56:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14958FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 23:56:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA6NumsK009608; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:56:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:56:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 15:56:24 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20081106235624.GA15686@thought.org> References: <20081105194506.GA18676@thought.org> <20081105195320.GA35044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081105195320.GA35044@slackbox.xs4all.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: console locked again:: load over 2.00 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:56:33 -0000 On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 08:53:20PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:45:10AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: > > > > Hey guys, > > > > Any ideas *why* my load is so high when my desktop wasn't touched for > > 9, 10 hours? I was running mostly KDE3 konsoles, and had a few other > > processes going, the apps iconisized. The server is still running; > > I've killed everything I can think of to reduce the load. It may be > > that the screen won't come back if the load is > 1.00. I'm upgrading > > my kernel to see if *that* has any effect. O/wise, I'm out of ideas. > > Try leaving 'top -SI' running in a console window. That should tell you what > the culprit is. > Looks like gnome-xscreensaver went nutso after several hours. This morning I found my FreeBSD screen about a third full of green and yellow "fuzz" or "blur." This time, I KVM'd over to ubuntu and did a shutdown and reboot at once; then killed the screen saver after getting back into KDE3. I was just listening to KMplayer and watching sites with required kde-gnash. When I Closed[*] the sites and killed the newscast, my load was still > 1.50 so I did a killall of the kde-gnash. Needs to be some way of controlling the number of kde-gnashes that are spawned. After the killall, xload shows my load back down to practically nothing. --Still having trouble with *firefox* + flash, but that's another rat's nest..... gary [*] iconizied > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 6 22:12:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456FB1065762 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:12:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from smtp.po.exetel.com.au (pecan.exetel.com.au [220.233.0.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1089B8FC12 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shinjii@maydias.com) Received: from 196.43.96.58.exetel.com.au ([58.96.43.196] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by smtp.po.exetel.com.au with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KyD5K-0001Xb-GW; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:12:14 +1100 Message-ID: <49136BDA.6070204@maydias.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:12:42 +1000 From: Warren Liddell User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081016) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kopete-devel@kde.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:05:35 +0000 Cc: Subject: Kopete + MSN X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:12:17 -0000 Im using FreeBSD7.1-PreRelease & KDE 4.1.3, with Kopete 0.60.3 Wondering when the MSN protocol is going to work again along with yahoo? Im presently having to run 2 seperate ports to connect to both of these when Kopete generally is meant to do both. Any ideas//suggestions welcome. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 01:05:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C63106567D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathfinder07@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5E18FC23 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:05:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathfinder07@embarqmail.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1226018708; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Nw1S2i3kK6u2ElhEcSd9VDmn6Sk=; b=kmg4z3VmcJ8At/oFHa0ZneamVqaLFzv/BM5m1yw4bSvw9SQCKKL6e0PcDZjsTnPQ vqbMUDv3VoHTXb4XcGD/kkTr7aQDkkm83cWOnPu19akGygG/L2Ujzmna76toecB8; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=1JTD6f7GAcsA:10 a=4SGSk-UbcMywOm6CCNEA:9 a=tb63pO83W2vMrFE17awA:7 a=_pkZbP6ApAsevGx9f2U3-yZPdlQA:4 a=SKpDKCWXRSQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=pathfinder07@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [67.232.183.202] ([67.232.183.202:11737] helo=[192.168.2.2]) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.33 r(25932/25934)) with ESMTPA id FC/2E-23713-49F83194; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:45:08 -0500 Message-ID: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:45:07 -0500 From: SAM HAYNES Organization: PATHFINDERS 2008 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:35:52 +0000 Cc: Subject: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: pathfinder07@embarqmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:05:10 -0000 Greetings, O Learned Ones from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to download it. So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the current economic crisis. My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products over a hundred or more websites. All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some suggestions back at me.. Thanks, Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 02:09:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB248106567B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B90F8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id mA726KAw046689; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:06:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id mA726KK7046688; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:06:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:06:20 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: SAM HAYNES Message-ID: <20081107020620.GA46646@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:09:56 -0000 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 07:45:07PM -0500, SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP > would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part > company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without > a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. > > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year > old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to > download it. > > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife > of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that > I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the > current economic crisis. > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to > promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from > that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products > over a hundred or more websites. > > All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. > > I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd > appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some > suggestions back at me.. Well, you have to judge if your product has legs for the market place. But, FreeBSD would be a very good platform to host your server if you choose to go ahead with doing this. FreeBSD is quite different from MS-Win stuff. I would advise finding some space on a machine and installing and using it for a bit to get past the initial learning curve - which can be quite steep for a person whose main background is in MS-Win. But, once you get the hang of it you will begin to see the advantages. FreeBSD expects you to actually manage it. It is not a handholding or keep-its-distance-from-the-user type of system like MS-Win or even MAC-OSen. You can get right down to the bits if you want or need. But, there are very good tools and documentation (once you get used to the stule) that will make it all work just fine. ////jerry > > Thanks, > > Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 02:34:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C301065674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:34:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: from smtp121.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp121.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CF918FC12 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:34:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike.jeays@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 81353 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2008 02:07:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id; b=Q8u/BnNFJxswPyy2/yznANPKyBHh/vnhWNvxZ4SHJORAl7YhYgf9tEndMXnM5CuEEhecIRfFLwIBm9vmcxUOwdpWRQ0xGDmD+zFl1m9ja6Mzhx6lZfljlNcNEM2Q3pQra0N7SydgobEdomkfzpGR6yKquje9kPfQ6Nllro8mAyk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO napoleon.local) (mike.jeays@99.224.75.182 with login) by smtp121.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 02:07:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: I1Do86cVM1k3LYT3ZlExT3_WW6ZxoUzPKfeXovu8tsAtRes5ppLfboH7A1Ixv6QSjw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: Mike Jeays To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:07:58 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811062107.58367.mike.jeays@rogers.com> Cc: Subject: Firewire problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:34:41 -0000 I bought a PCI/Firewire card and cable, and used it to connect my Sony PV-GS80 camcorder, which uses MiniDV tapes and has a Firewire socket. I get the following messages in /var/log/messages, which suggest the Firewire card may be a bad one. # Turn camera on Nov 6 20:40:00 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: txd err= 0 No stat Nov 6 20:40:00 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 Nov 6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: unrecoverable error Nov 6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: BUS reset Nov 6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: node_id=0x8800ffc0, gen=3, non CYCLEMASTER mode Nov 6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: txd err= 0 No stat Nov 6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 Nov 6 20:40:01 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: unrecoverable error # Try running kino Nov 6 20:40:56 pcbsd kernel: pid 8206 (kino), uid 1001: exited on signal 11 # Turn camera off Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: too many cycle lost, no cycle master presents? Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: BUS reset Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=4, CYCLEMASTER mode Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fwohci0: unrecoverable error Nov 6 20:46:21 pcbsd kernel: fw_xfer_free FWXF_START Kino segfaults when I press the 'Capture' button. This is with PC-BSD 7.0 on a test machine. I have a similar lack of success on a Linux machine, with the same card. Should I buy a new card, or is there anything else worth trying first? -- Mike Jeays http://www.jeays.ca From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 01:39:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9741065680 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94638FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:39:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.172.215]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 17:39:10 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:40:13 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2008 01:39:10.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1C5B900:01C94079] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:48:27 +0000 Cc: Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:39:39 -0000 Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in ms/word format. Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 02:50:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6361065678 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:50:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE1C18FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 77698 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2008 02:50:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kSyfRAkJ0G3EnYmsvg+FpCOylmYWiNJSZNsx5N/tG7AvL48iJER32lWwMztVMud9z0L8xf831gse29xBwsM3iOnejehx+Bx0gbK1XKdsnepoKTo+lXHi74UCEKbtA0rTOumMj+fL3RtRDOoxKrqC4KwYtTKG2FE4ZWrnOr3tqvI=; X-YMail-OSG: CSZh9dwVM1kdaFjuZdl4Tk9DEymgbvVV5ZlVJuM6dj.ZCphBnqOOUdTNi6GKkamwiSkXeIzzPo5MerJERLE6KpdEETZmB9QQR8jy.CVnlzKLolcRcXmDJwUcxt_c73wYppRHXpeua_Lf4Hmard_pB6fEng-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:50:12 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 18:50:12 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <185614.77634.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:53:40 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:50:14 -0000 OpenOffice.org 3. There's a port. - mdh --- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 wrote: > From: FBSD1 > Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM > Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output > document in > ms/word format. > > Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:01:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B60106564A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4CB8FC23 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:01:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.172.215]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:00:48 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:01:50 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <185614.77634.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2008 03:00:48.0628 (UTC) FILETIME=[09384340:01C94085] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: Subject: RE: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:01:17 -0000 I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port. -----Original Message----- From: mdh [mailto:mdh_lists@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:50 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG; fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce OpenOffice.org 3. There's a port. - mdh --- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 wrote: > From: FBSD1 > Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM > Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output > document in > ms/word format. > > Thanks for your help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:08:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F3A1065689 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162048FC19 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1158695fkk.11 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:08:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RBO0F33Fz/dspG6nNaeBjlEELcHHRtTYIMdR/oTmBYc=; b=daBqz1LOR6U3iKJSBnYehjziu/POEB9IHMujaA5PmZp2HnL0BeZEzv7EGVHHMmjHdR JbunuzmOpWZEz1o1sM0mWg2KuhSeTLvLtMLHh4/nYGZqDmGU+nHHEqUXp+zwGpP7UV7m 0zJe40DmUBPTDVRgjIkCsjPujorDfPmGxeHTc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=ShmtbB9RpHNlPLk5lEUklps2qKwBnPh8i8tXjHxKM63uDS4n4ByBgcqvP70OvTXUMY fqBj16MK9cnXGC7nTy6d8FNJL16hnEa5wn98uFH44307f77d7XRZPk1xMY2IotF22N5M NnvOfJnU7vuJTmvO0844HjocpipyBh5+F7TTo= Received: by 10.187.247.15 with SMTP id z15mr570603far.80.1226027289716; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:08:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811061908w1189f2a7ja0d922bd6ecc4ab5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:08:09 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <185614.77634.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:08:11 -0000 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, FBSD1 wrote: > I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release > 6 stable. > It takes a very very long time to compile this port. There is a package available. I installed it yesterday. Look at the ftp site. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:08:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE051065748 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from mail.monochrome.org (b4.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4268FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([192.168.1.11]) by mail.monochrome.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA738Qr7018015; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:08:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@monochrome.org) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:08:26 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Hill To: SAM HAYNES In-Reply-To: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> Message-ID: <20081106204145.Q3811@tripel.monochrome.org> References: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:08:28 -0000 On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal > server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that > XP would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to > part company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but > without a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. It depends on what you consider essential. I have been using FreeBSD as my daily desktop for maybe 10 years now. The only complaint I have is that Adobe steadfastly refuses to let us run a useable Flash player. Even that is Adobe's fault, not FreeBSD's. > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three > year old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just > how to download it. If you should decide to give FreeBSD a shot, all you need is the "disc1" image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/7.1/ -Well, also of course, a suitable machine on which to install. FreeBSD is a *lot* less resource-hungry than Windows in my experience. 7.1 is in beta right this minute, but it seems that release is imminent. There should be an announcement on the website when the time comes. Anyway, the idea is to download the ISO file, burn it to a CD, and boot the CD. If you're in the learing/experimenting phase, I would strongly suggest not doing the experiment on your only computer. You'll probably appreciate having a working web browser, email, etc. during the process. If you're used to Windows, this will be quite different. I like that FreeBSD does what you tell it to, not what it thought you might have wanted. Of course, that's a double-edged sword. > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a > wife of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong > belief that I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing > despite the current economic crisis. Good. You have been building PCs -and- doing wiring a lot longer than I have been doing either. Nobody needs to tell you what an IRQ is, or why a "loose neutral" might be a problem. > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp > to promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds > from that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' > products over a hundred or more websites. I have no business sense, and can't comment on the model. But I can say that you'd be hard-pressed to find a better server platform than FreeBSD. HTH, and good luck with the plan. -- Chris Hill chris@monochrome.org ** [ Busy Expunging <|> ] From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:17:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE2D1065680 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from aegis.hamla.org (aegis.hamla.org [206.251.255.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B97F8FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sahil@tandon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aegis.hamla.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB405C78 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:18:54 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=tandon.net; h= x-virus-scanned:in-reply-to:content-disposition:content-type :mime-version:references:reply-to:message-id:subject:from:date: received; s=aegis; t=1226027932; bh=A20sC67ffhbIme+HWKWZDY5c4aNg +8NrMdJibq1mTFY=; b=fMG9ikfcaiEWfZrzudrUxvX03focTErHAJPmaUBOThob aqIYTJ5ex/3b61eIJr6WeLoNqnmz01WwNP7NocKxiomN1SN+enq/O3Sfd4KPETtp eZa1wnQyek95RZ1fsxTQulsnhBxrWZSCCDy5NnjICUNDt+UtSCGeoj4cVXzERiY= Received: from aegis.hamla.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (aegis.hamla.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10027) with LMTP id Hd5ybTWs5JcI for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:18:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:17:46 -0500 From: Sahil Tandon To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> References: <185614.77634.qm@web56805.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on aegis.hamla.org X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:17:52 -0000 FBSD1 wrote: > I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release > 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port. Please don't top-post. OpenOffice packages are available via the FreeBSD FTP sites. -- Sahil Tandon From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:24:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2071E106567B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:24:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044E08FC0A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from insp.local (rrcs-74-218-226-253.se.biz.rr.com [74.218.226.253]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id mA73OhFt055933; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:24:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:24:36 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: X-Face: #X5#Y*q>F:]zT!DegL3z5Xo'^MN[$8k\[4^3rN~wm=s=Uw(sW}R?3b^*f1Wu*.<=?utf-8?q?of=5F4NrS=0A=09P*M/9CpxDo!D6?=)IY1w<9B1jB; tBQf[RU-R<,I)e"$q7N7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811062224.37120.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:24:45 -0000 > --- On Thu, 11/6/08, FBSD1 wrote: > > From: FBSD1 > > Subject: recommendation word processer for xfce > > To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" > > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 8:40 PM > > Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output > > document in > > ms/word format. > > On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote: > I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd > release 6 stable. > It takes a very very long time to compile this port. Take a look at abiword. JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:31:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341981065678 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:31:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D36E8FC08 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:31:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.172.215]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:31:04 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: "Glen Barber" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:32:06 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310811061908w1189f2a7ja0d922bd6ecc4ab5@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2008 03:31:04.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[43BEBA40:01C94089] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: RE: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:31:33 -0000 Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7 .1-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access) Where did you get the package from or what name did you use for the package? -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Glen Barber Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:08 AM To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:01 PM, FBSD1 wrote: > I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release > 6 stable. > It takes a very very long time to compile this port. There is a package available. I installed it yesterday. Look at the ftp site. -- Glen Barber _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:34:03 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF7210656A6 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E048FC19 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1170363fkk.11 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:34:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZtXXlzac/OoBLOgY0rqzbUQwZOfnHi6XpY4qKj0wQDM=; b=PzPqTUQ1SOoqi7MP87+4RNmcLxgmA4X8+omdx7pf/d6Z8dcgZXrGpIwygqlRYvsfl1 mPTUqTLgHSfar0i6Tu98LMichgM1YbGaHDGmd1xitMhUlauSgJ1eRrjGGRozgQmYCxXT QDTicsTm93t/VnLRgpXvPbYCDQUDXVij7vlTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Kc1lnwtKHV4lNe1/NJCX3bVFKJuFZ3S4NNdlNnR9LYXo5GTxQIYVzTLb5MeGUYhjtG MstWu4CvtC3BB9n+AOhvggzxb8kgmUGx9bgDNCt4iYJo+hbwh6sLvc+nGTx00+7th4y2 /a5YuOBqTxgzdhWQC9Y+0iM/4J6iQvLfZ0504= Received: by 10.187.183.6 with SMTP id k6mr575526fap.62.1226028841717; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:34:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:34:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811061934i7910e25dlc71f6e64d2cd8e8b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:34:01 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4ad871310811061908w1189f2a7ja0d922bd6ecc4ab5@mail.gmail.com> Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com, "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:34:03 -0000 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:32 PM, FBSD1 wrote: > Error: FTP Unable to get > ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-7 > .1-release/Latest/openoffice.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no > access) > > Where did you get the package from or what name did you use for the package? > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.4-release/All/openoffice.org-2.4.1_2.tbz -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:34:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73386106568D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2088FC1B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:34:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.172.215]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:33:37 -0800 From: "FBSD1" To: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:34:40 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2008 03:33:37.0989 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F0CE750:01C94089] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: RE: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:34:06 -0000 Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about it. sorry -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sahil Tandon Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:18 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce FBSD1 wrote: > I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd release > 6 stable. It takes a very very long time to compile this port. Please don't top-post. OpenOffice packages are available via the FreeBSD FTP sites. -- Sahil Tandon _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:37:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5551065677 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:37:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F738FC12 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:37:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so750772fgb.35 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:37:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=MBWxHdLDlGLla+IzwHBetptvbbV0jy3FunJha9hgl80=; b=QmYswtRGAVjVAGGB5BRCpNTvpfn3lyb7OtesBW2KEL9V1+/+tUVxh+/T/ubztkMt3o wJuI1VrpGVD6xQiImMrKyNCoqWJtxJyOd9aQK71mWcuYJKYcgbbFU2YOnVK0F1UQ8YR4 hrtQfE+XAfFR3dahqeOEAHuayeOZ3pEBuZglE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=AYDq40c59/Dj9KzR7fcW03iUm3yPemdGoHdDmapmQo+mMXMu53ha/+w+/HJ/J7ST2l aSFY4ZAuVg3l/oBIcNr3ICig9SM0jESlRgqdMBl1hQEmIyn0CC7jP1Jj9mUQu3qaHrIX J4GBRsqrS52R1ZNBZ3GgHsogi/BAC1dmdqsus= Received: by 10.187.210.3 with SMTP id m3mr575951faq.59.1226029029604; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:37:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.187.194.10 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:37:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4ad871310811061937v2eb5db1an739dfb09c9f08569@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:37:09 -0500 From: "Glen Barber" To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:37:11 -0000 On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, FBSD1 wrote: > Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about it. > sorry > You could disable "include original message". Or use better software. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:39:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41E31065693 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2988FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joeb@a1poweruser.com) Received: from laptop ([202.69.172.215]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 6 Nov 2008 19:38:44 -0800 From: "joeb" To: "John Nielsen" , Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:39:46 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200811062224.37120.lists@jnielsen.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2008 03:38:44.0421 (UTC) FILETIME=[55B2B750:01C9408A] X-Sender: joeb@a1poweruser.com Cc: mdh_lists@yahoo.com Subject: RE: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: joeb@a1poweruser.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:39:13 -0000 > > On Thursday 06 November 2008, FBSD1 wrote: > I looked at OpenOffice but there is no package of it since freebsd > release 6 stable. > It takes a very very long time to compile this port. Take a look at abiword. *************************************************************** I installed abiword but it has bug on start up wanting to access some server. Gives popup window about error contacting some server. After clicking on OK button it works ok. But can't have error every time on startup From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 03:40:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8727106564A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from daisy2.compar.com (mail1.compar.com [216.208.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6AB8FC12 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 03:40:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost.compar.com [127.0.0.1]) by daisy2.compar.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8CA13C425; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:40:51 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at compar.com Received: from unknown by localhost (amavisd-new, unix socket) id T2IjkGDyN0Kz; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:40:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from hermes (CPE00062566c7bb-CM001ac3584898.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.255.62.215]) by daisy2.compar.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 67DF013C41A; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:40:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <60642CE3F85245349E2872A9C4EA0645@hermes> From: "Matt Emmerton" To: "Glen Barber" , References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <4ad871310811061937v2eb5db1an739dfb09c9f08569@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:40:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:19:53 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:40:52 -0000 > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:34 PM, FBSD1 wrote: >> Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about >> it. >> sorry >> > > You could disable "include original message". > > Or use better software. Or just scroll down the to bottom of the message before typing anything. -- Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 04:36:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DCB106568B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:36:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 884198FC26 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id mA74ace4064107 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:36:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id mA74ac3C064106 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 20:36:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA12369; Thu, 6 Nov 08 20:29:55 PST Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:34:22 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <4913c54e.Uzkn2xbou95tGOOs%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <200811062228.27821.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200811062228.27821.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:36:39 -0000 > On Thursday 06 November 2008 22:01:39 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a > > > hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, > > > > what is "RAID5 of RAID6"??? > > 'of' is 'or' in dutch, common typo for dutch or flemish people. For Americans also, due to "f" and "r" being adjacent on a US-English keyboard. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 04:43:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B81106567E; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:43:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD688FC26; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:43:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so509292ele.13 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:43:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:cc:subject:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=BFE9dAJtGcENW2srpXVvK7gPab6lCuMzTPEE6mF7X+M=; b=HTzvQCvxObrg4vqB33Y8nIkYVVOFPDTE9+6MOqm84Pc4sR/3gRTWiffzzTwOvpqKZJ favJ3vfkPCTJHn8Mq3ON86IfI1kNldNDNSZ72Y/4XPHOruNAVpRFONmqdn9u3ogqu1ol 4Zye2CQMnq2A5T/JJMuoEOpAfkPBe379UNShw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :from; b=vGrHor7LvZZ8++SqDbQfF3fQtFUE3pHrWzHaGkXOhZ2UXI8qRcfI6FmycoNp1/ZH9e Q5HqwCE8LYQf8EDXyndNYpLNO3baS25pjHOQLiM5LChwWc1LZ7xxgWccSyS0CtgYQ6mK v+ZGEeybvLsctwkOpJ1CJiL65EjGn7UzeXy2A= Received: by 10.90.97.18 with SMTP id u18mr2661955agb.35.1226032980202; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:43:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? (ool-182d26f3.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.38.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm2672155agd.21.2008.11.06.20.42.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:42:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4913C74C.80606@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:42:52 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eitan Adler Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: spell check - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:43:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [cc to -questions as it might be a general question] I'm looking to do a full spell check/fix on the handbook. I found "make spellcheck-txt" which apparently removed certain items that would not go well through a spell checker - however I don't know how to actually run the spellcheck itself. I have aspell installed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkTx0wACgkQtl8kq+nCzNHfcACeLHva5seuXKoCX8GT4JBTJfwx lTgAn2RjPnpyU1KkoR51O+hQ1MJLIYGD =ISoq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 05:58:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644B51065672 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:58:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4DF8FC18 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 05:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl202-73.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.15.73]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mA75wbFj010984 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:58:42 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA75wbV7012204; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:58:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA75wb05012203; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:58:37 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@freebsd.org) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Eitan Adler References: <4913C74C.80606@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:58:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4913C74C.80606@gmail.com> (Eitan Adler's message of "Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:42:52 -0500") Message-ID: <87d4h884c3.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MailScanner-ID: mA75wbFj010984 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.072, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.33, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@freebsd.org X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spell check - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:58:48 -0000 On Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:42:52 -0500, Eitan Adler wrote: > [cc to -questions as it might be a general question] Hi Eitan :-) > I'm looking to do a full spell check/fix on the handbook. I found > "make spellcheck-txt" which apparently removed certain items that > would not go well through a spell checker - however I don't know how > to actually run the spellcheck itself. > > I have aspell installed. You will probably have to tweak the ISPELLOPTS to use aspell. The current spellcheck targets use a default ISPELLOPTS with a value of: %%% doc/el/share/mk/doc.project.mk:ISPELL?= ispell doc/el/share/mk/doc.project.mk:ISPELLOPTS?= -l -p /usr/share/dict/freebsd ${ISPELLFLAGS} %%% The -l option is not supported by aspell, so the following spellcheck run fails: : % pwd : /ws/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributing : % env ISPELL=aspell make FORMATS=txt spellcheck : Spellcheck article.txt : Error: You must specify a parameter for "-l". : *** Error code 1 : But you can set ISPELL and ISPELLOPTS in the runtime environment to pass aspell-compatible options: : % env ISPELL=aspell ISPELLOPTS='list' make FORMATS=txt spellcheck : Spellcheck article.txt : jcamou : IEEE : ... Unfortunately, the wordlist at `/usr/share/dict/freebsd' is not usable with aspell right now, so if you try to use it you will get errors like: : env ISPELL=aspell \ : ISPELLOPTS='-p /usr/share/dict/freebsd ${ISPELLFLAGS}' \ : ISPELLFLAGS='list' make FORMATS=txt spellcheck : Spellcheck article.txt : Error: The file "/usr/share/dict/freebsd" is not in the proper format. : *** Error code 1 The main drawback of being unable to use the `freebsd' wordlist is that you will get many false positives for words that are perfectly valid for FreeBSD documentation but are not standard English words. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 06:51:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD48C1065696 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E55F8FC1C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:51:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abalour@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 9so664547qwb.7 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=e3BqSlOJ5caRCAQP1zt8HJP8zrtUjSaBj+bLH5Xa9I4=; b=HHvXiLwuPTXYSbbsOUso8S81Lp1XhX4CYsv8bho2FEwPpX2HmCOEGRv5H3uDewVzpT qBJZrqni8Cvf5Yyy92PNgM5QHiHaFKDkxj/rZxsgOm3eiv9oQmsdHuEKXLey9CAuYN5+ 0a5lWANtFUbAvF6jczfpLNBZQLY0Wkiu2VfPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to :mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bsEx5S1Ghbp6cVLoewEhXsfSUpsgBp5p7duqombdW7UfPUDpzn+4Pc7Sd4T8QR7oUi jYlvoYxB+ibftwxmk21zcAL2VwSm5O3bo8Q57g42nxBrVhw86LrKqsdPrnvmDAmiER22 t08EvES6sCLVSou+LD0e0WCX0r6kqwK0+K/k8= Received: by 10.214.43.11 with SMTP id q11mr3538283qaq.132.1226040666607; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.215.41.2 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Nov 2008 22:51:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <35f70db10811062251v7df8c7d2y69112e1768dc0cf4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:51:06 +0200 From: "Ross Cameron" Sender: abalour@gmail.com To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c61171951185d7a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ross.cameron@linuxpro.co.za List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:51:07 -0000 On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 wrote: > Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about > it. > sorry Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 08:40:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 572111065673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@s21sec.com) Received: from s21sec.com (mail.s21sec.com [88.84.65.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189578FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@s21sec.com) Received: from inv-008.s21sec.com (unknown [83.175.204.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by s21sec.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7981E2560C4 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:21:24 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:25:56 +0100 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Eduardo Morras Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20081107082124.7981E2560C4@s21sec.com> Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:40:44 -0000 At 17:10 06/11/2008, you wrote: >Hi there, > >Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I >may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono >on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. > >To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: >1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? Pascal and ObjectPascal with FreePascal Compiler and Lazarus for my programs. C with GCC for play with FreeBSD source code. >2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? Don't know. >3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it >better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? Depends. For me it's THE development platform. >Thanks. L --------------------------------------------------------------- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 09:06:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1739106567B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B648FC26 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:06:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id mA795vLP003964; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chris Hill" , "SAM HAYNES" Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 01:07:02 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 In-Reply-To: <20081106204145.Q3811@tripel.monochrome.org> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:05:58 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject)) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:06:02 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chris Hill > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:08 PM > To: SAM HAYNES > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Replace XP with FreeBSD (was Re: (no subject)) > > > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, SAM HAYNES wrote: > > > > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a > > wife of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong > > belief that I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing > > despite the current economic crisis. > > Good. You have been building PCs -and- doing wiring a lot longer than I > have been doing either. Nobody needs to tell you what an IRQ is, or why > a "loose neutral" might be a problem. > > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp > > to promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds > > from that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' > > products over a hundred or more websites. > > I have no business sense, and can't comment on the model. I do and can. We have customers doing this. However it is going to take you many years to get this up and going and there's a huge amount of competition. You have a LOT to learn. And it will never pay much. Your most profitable bet is to visit your local IBEW office and get your license current, then start going around to all of the local builders and giving them your card. There's a big need for people who can do small electrical jobs under permit. If this is out, and your dead-set on doing something on the Internet, then go to some classes, learn how to write a decent website, and spend a few years doing websites for people. There's not a lot of money in that either, but there's more than trying to do what you think you want to do. And, you will never be able to do what you think you want to do until you are intimately familiar with HTML. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 09:09:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4281065673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9B58FC1A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD731130DCA; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:09:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id B5F9F2E714; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:09:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from privftp.esiee.fr (privftp.esiee.fr [147.215.1.190]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25E42E714; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:09:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: bonnetf) by privftp.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CF053981A; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:09:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <491405E0.5080809@esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:09:52 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pieter Donche References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:09:54 -0000 Pieter Donche wrote: > Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a > hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, > > To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive. > > If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra > disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and > add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD? > > How can you make the added disk-space available for FreeBSD. > Can this be done without shutting down the system? How?? > I think this would be possible using vinum, but I've never tested it. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 09:35:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3971065673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064898FC14 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:35:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA79ZdQU026882; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id mA79ZdB9026878; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:35:39 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: Wojciech Puchar In-Reply-To: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Message-ID: References: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:35:42 -0000 On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a >> hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, >> To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive. > > what is "RAID5 of RAID6"??? RAID5 or RAID6 (sorry, typing error) >> If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra >> disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and >> add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD? > FreeBSD will see larger drive. With what command can you see that FreeBSD had 'seen' it ? Or is the the bsdlabel command? Is bsdlabel a partition management program (such as GParted, Partition Magic)? > you then have to fix partition table (use bsdlabel -e) > fix c partition to be actually sized of whole drive, and then > a) add new partition(s) for new space > b) extend the size of last partition and use growfs I guess here you mean 2 alternatives: a) using the new space for new partition(s) leaving the existing as they are or b) create no new partitions but extend the last partition to include the new space, by using the growfs command ? >> How can you make the added disk-space available for FreeBSD. >> Can this be done without shutting down the system? How?? > i don't think FreeBSD can be told to reget device info from controller when > partitions of that device are mounted. but i may be wrong Hmm, man growfs says: Currently growfs CAN ONLY ENLARGE UNMOUNTED FILE SYSTEMS. DO NOT TRY ENLARGING A MOUNTED FILE SYSTEM, YOUR SYSTEM WILL PANIC AND YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE FILE SYSTEM ANY LONGER. If your FreeDSB only has swap and a / file system (with all users inside /usr/home) or you set up FreeBSD with a swap, /, /var and /usr filesystems (with users in /usr/home) and you want to grow a file system (e.g. /usr to give the extra space to users) (scenario b)) then, I guess, you will need to go into single-user mode and boot from CD with a FreeBSD in RAM to be able extend the (unmounted) file system /usr Can scenario a) (making new file system for new space) be done in multi-user mode, or only in single-user mode, will it need a reboot ?? Is there any document (besides the manual pages bsdlabel, growfs, ..) that describes step-by-step what to do to grow an existing file system of to add a new file system on newly added disk space ? Pieter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 09:57:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320601065689 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pdegoeje@service2media.com) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FEA8FC21 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:57:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pdegoeje@service2media.com) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id mA79WYij016852; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:37 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:32:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> <20081106163134.GD43844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20081106163134.GD43844@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: Service2Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811071032.34327.pdegoeje@service2media.com> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pdegoeje@service2media.com X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Jerry McAllister , Foo JH Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:57:59 -0000 On Thursday 06 November 2008, Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:10:41AM +0800, Foo JH wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Earlier I was asking for some help getting XSP/ mod_mono on FreeBSD. I > > may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono > > on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. > > > > To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: > > 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? > > 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? > > 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it > > better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? > > FreeBSD suppports just about any programming language that has > been created. If you go to /usr/ports/lang/ you will see > a large list of them that you can install. > > As for the most common, well, C and C++, Shells such as SH, CSH/TCSH > and Perl are very common, plus in conjunction with web servers such > as Apache, PHP, Python, Ruby and a number of others are common. > If you are doing number crunching, you can use FORTRAN and if you > are in to historical business environments, there is even Cobol. > > As for being optimized for a language, it is more likely the other > way around. Are there any languages that have good optimization > for running on FreeBSD. Maybe. Someone else may know more about > that, than I do. > > ////jerry And don't forget Java. Eclipse-devel + jdk16 make an excellent development environment on FreeBSD. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 10:06:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E711065690 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24748FC14 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 10:06:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cA2i1a0030xGWP859A6qvt; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:06:50 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cA6n1a0082P6wsM3YA6obU; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:06:49 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gDos0kX76BEA:10 a=tWmolMFHfhMA:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=x4uUgcpHUNeuCcu5CB8A:9 a=X9wY_EeQV1QUlyEeSrAA:7 a=nhOcXDZk1xYVsGW6uamPzbDw5GAA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD32B5C19; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:06:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 02:06:47 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Pieter Donche Message-ID: <20081107100647.GA2064@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081106215647.A28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hardware Raid + hot-replace failed disk X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:06:51 -0000 On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:35:39AM +0100, Pieter Donche wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >>> Suppose you have a system with multiple disks managed by a >>> hardware RAID controller in a RAID5 of RAID6 configuration, >>> To FreeBSD it will look like e.g. a single large drive. >> >> what is "RAID5 of RAID6"??? > RAID5 or RAID6 (sorry, typing error) > >>> If you want to extend your disk space by plugging in an extra >>> disk, the hardware RAID controller will probably detect it and >>> add it in his management, but will it be seen by FreeBSD? >> FreeBSD will see larger drive. > > With what command can you see that FreeBSD had 'seen' it ? The answer is: "it depends". The below applies to SATA, SAS, and SCSI only; you cannot hot-swap PATA disks. If you have a hot-swap enclosure or a hot-swap backplane, and are using a hardware RAID controller (and I do mean *real* hardware RAID, not BIOS-level RAID like Intel MatrixRAID or Adaptec HostRAID), then the FreeBSD controller driver should report the disk falling off the bus (if a disk is removed), or a disk appearing on the bus (if a disk is added). If the driver does not handle this natively, you will have to rely on command-line utilities from the RAID card vendor to manage this. If you have a hot-swap enclosure or a hot-swap backplane, and are using software/OS-based RAID (such as gvinum, ccd, or ZFS), then it depends on the underlying type of disk you're using. With SATA disks, you rely on the FreeBSD ata(4) layer. You are at the whim of the ata(4) layer and its support for your motherboard chipset, assuming that's what you're using (there are exceptions; see below). Removal of a SATA disk should show the disk falling off the bus, and you will need to perform "atacontrol detach " to ensure the kernel knows the disk has been removed (this is not done automatically, despite what you see on the console; I recommend you do the "detach" prior to disk removal). Addition of a SATA disk will require you to perform "atacontrol attach ", and hopefully you will see the disk make and model show up moments later. With SCSI or SAS disks, you rely on the FreeBSD da(4) layer, backed by the FreeBSD CAM(4) layer. This layer is proven reliable, and even some SATA RAID controllers use it (such as Areca controllers; yes, they're SATA disks on a hardware RAID controller, but the FreeBSD driver for the Areca card uses da(4) and CAM(4)). Removal of a SCSI disk should show the disk falling off the bus. You can use "camcontrol" to examine the state of things; you may need to use start/stop (it's been a while since I've used camcontrol). Addition of a SCSI disk might require "camcontrol rescan"; again, it's been a while since I've used camcontrol. In general, there is no easy way to describe every single scenario under the sun. It greatly depends upon what hardware you're using, and what kind of disk you're using. If you choose to use a hardware RAID card, the card user manual should describe *exactly* how to accomplish additions and removals. Chances are you're talking about generic SATA disks hooked up to your generic motherboard. You should be aware that FreeBSD is somewhat "flaky" in this regard. I've recently written about a disk swap gone bad (while using a Promise TX4310 controller), which should give you some idea of the chaos that can happen as a result of shoddy driver support: http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ZFS_disk_upgrade_gone_bad This article is followed-up by a fully-working example when using an Intel ICH-based board with Intel AHCI enabled (meaning, everything worked flawlessly and exactly how it should've): http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ZFS_disk_upgrade_gone_bad_part_2 I'm still in the process of writing the details that make up Part 2. > Or is the the bsdlabel command? bsdlabel(8) is what creates filesystems. To format filesystems, you use newfs(8). > Is bsdlabel a partition management program (such as GParted, Partition > Magic)? No, that's fdisk(8). FreeBSD calls these "slices", not "partitions", but they're the same thing. If you want to "keep it simple", I recommend you use sade(8), which is the text-based interface for partitioning and filesystem creation that you see when you install FreeBSD. If you don't have the "sade" command, just run "sysinstall" and choose post-configuration. > Is there any document (besides the manual pages bsdlabel, growfs, ..) > that describes step-by-step what to do to grow an existing file system > of to add a new file system on newly added disk space ? What everyone else is telling you is sending you on a wild goose chase. I'm sitting here imagining you clicking your mouse at 6000 clicks per second, eyeballs rolling around, sweating profusely. :-) I wish FreeBSD mailing list people wouldn't do this to new folks, because all it's doing is confusing you. The simple answer is this: on FreeBSD, there is not a reliable way to grow an existing filesystem without taking the machine down, bringing it into single-user, or rebooting it. In fact, I would go so far to say there is not a reliable way on FreeBSD to grow a filesystem at all; you are generally forced to back up all of your data, then recreate the filesystem. ZFS doesn't make this any easier, by the way -- you cannot "grow" a zpool. You can add disks in real-time (no rebooting/single-user) to a separate zpool (think: separate filesystem), but you cannot add disks to an existing zpool. Yes, I am aware Linux has LVM, which provides all of this capability for you, without having to reboot. If you're really wanting something like a end-user NAS, which allows you to remove/add disks as you please, and the filesystem shrinks/grows with it, then you need to be looking at a product from Data Robotics called Drobo. Note that Drobo does not work under FreeBSD, as far as I know (it probably shows up as a umass/da device, but if you remove/add disks, I'm absolutely certain the filesystem does not grow. Linux Drobo users have been dealing with that problem for quite some time too, and Data Robotics is *just now* getting around to addressing it) Hope this helps. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 11:29:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6441065674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC1A8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KyPWM-0003Hv-UV for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:28:58 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.174.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:28:58 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:28:58 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:28:07 -0500 Lines: 117 Message-ID: References: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:29:00 -0000 SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP > would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part > company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without > a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. > > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year > old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to > download it. > > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife > of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that > I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the > current economic crisis. > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to > promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from > that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products > over a hundred or more websites. > > All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. > > I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd > appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some > suggestions back at me.. > [snip] Just some ideas from the $.02 department: As far as replacing XP with something else to be used as a desktop machine, ala the GUI route, my own personal preference is the KDE desktop. I've been using it so many years now it is second nature, but there are just "useability" patterns which I've become so accustomed to that make it so I don't want to use XP any longer. I just like KDE as a GUI instead of the XP interface. It is also, imho an easier transition from Windows for someone with little or no Unix experience. I used KDE on FreeBSD as my main desktop for many years, but I finally gave in to openSUSE 10.3 on my workstation as I really found a need for Virtualbox and being able to run virtual machines. I have three Linux browsers, a VM with Windows XP SP2 and IE6, and a Windows XP SP3 VM with IE7, Opera, Firefox, and Safari. I confirm that all xhtml-transitional web pages I write look the same in all of these. And I can do this with no rebooting the machine. If you are totally new to Linux/Unix and have zero experience and just want an easy, out of the box "something other" than XP you might try the latest incarnation of Kubuntu. I know in a FreeBSD list these comments are sacrilege, but the broader picture is what your needs truly are. Now on the server side things are much different. In spite of the steep learning curve associated with being a newbie to Unices, I still feel FreeBSD makes a better server platform. You just need to recondition your expectations to administrating it largely via command line, as most sysadmins who operate FreeBSD servers do not install any GUI software on them. I know I don't. You will find maintaining a FreeBSD server much less aggravating than Linux. It is coherent, clean, well documented, a well thought out and very complete operating system. Performance is pretty good too. Especially when you factor in what you payed for it! :-) As far as setting up server(s) at your home, this is a good way for learning. It is also a test platform for any web sites you may be running. Keep a mirror at home to make and evaluate changes thoroughly _before_ uploading them to your active site(s). Never make changes that you haven't tested out first. Now running a real live "Web" presence out of your house is probably not really a good idea if it has anything to do with business. A personal blog can go down for indefinite periods and no harm done, but a business site is a different story. First, the reason for having your servers located in a data center is they are sitting directly on the "fat pipes" of the Internet. Second, these data centers are "multi homed" in their peerage to other backbones. If one connection path develops a problem your site is still going to be accessible via one of the other paths. You simply will never have the kind of connectivity found in a real data center at home. I do not approve of HTML WYSIWYG editing abominations such as Dreamweaver and their ilk. They make it seem like anyone can write a Web page but in reality what they output isn't standards compliant. Over the years I've looked at a few, and found they all output crap. The only way to write technically proficient Web sites is to know the material. It does initially take quite a bit of time, but is easily helped along by all the example content you have to look at in the process. And all the standards and info you need starts right here: http://www.w3.org/ This sounds like a lot, and it truly is. So carve it up into bite sized chunks. Set up a beginner's network at home. One box for FreeBSD as your server, and a second box as your workstation. Begin by learning how to sysadmin your server. The Handbook is priceless: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Now this is long enough already so I'll quit at this point. There is much more to what you're going after, but if done a piece at a time in an orderly fashion you can get there. Best wishes for good luck - Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 12:36:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E876C1065673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:36:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from viefep18-int.chello.at (viefep18-int.chello.at [213.46.255.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8FF8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:36:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gandalf@shopzeus.com) Received: from edge02.upc.biz ([192.168.13.237]) by viefep17-int.chello.at (InterMail vM.7.08.02.00 201-2186-121-20061213) with ESMTP id <20081107123654.XORH21520.viefep17-int.chello.at@edge02.upc.biz> for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:36:54 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.103] ([89.134.230.13]) by edge02.upc.biz with edge id cCcr1a04H0Hzgy102CcsMH; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:36:54 +0100 X-SourceIP: 89.134.230.13 Message-ID: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:36:51 +0100 From: Laszlo Nagy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: eps to jpg conversion - which program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:36:57 -0000 Hi, I need to convert eps files into jpeg files in batch mode. Gimp works perfectly, except that I cannot use an X display. I tried eps2png with no success: %file test.eps test.eps: DOS EPS Binary File Postscript starts at byte 30 length 566887 TIFF starts at byte 566917 length 4741 %eps2png -jpg -width 1000 -verbose -output test.jpg test.eps Producing jpg (jpeg) image. Not EPS file: test.eps, skipped What port should I use to convert EPS into JPG? I would like to use a program that shares the same library with Gimp, because we know that Gimp works great for this task. Thanks, Laszlo From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 09:07:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C761065672 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avasek@yahoo.com) Received: from n60.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n60.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 14ACC8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avasek@yahoo.com) Received: from [216.252.122.217] by n60.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2008 08:53:32 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.169] by t2.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2008 08:53:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp504.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Nov 2008 08:53:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 421043.49865.bm@omp504.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4237 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2008 08:53:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=cUA3ErwTV/pSjZgFg9kMP7CBM+/xplB3JPV9lG2BVFKKvzVvF8iHMPX90cyx0yfbP0lm9ye15AhuKcNu9MvWOU7Oa9i3wXGPYHWNl5Rwmbl/FdBMuFw3kDYLzwMM1x1cwrENCfEA39cqK2ORMYZBj0iSLO9vDkeNIHJzBA2Mqik=; X-YMail-OSG: 5AULfe4VM1mV4dPk39NYjiGwczYzGfaJkOXJRDND2JEgwizW8VQ4nQM7HsXQ1eYsgPdl4fmipsRw6prHT3dPJdJGpixwYGjOOSNNOnkPnhSCnH9XrefPQRSSX6nelvMUk4ESMZDjbsESNwuiPqD0jhkUrGMa Received: from [202.3.112.9] by web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:53:31 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 References: <877581.16197.qm@web31702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200811061006.13445.lists@jnielsen.net> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:53:31 -0800 (PST) From: My Myself To: John Nielsen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-geom@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <225776.3467.qm@web46108.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:47:30 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Ganesh kamath Subject: Re: Geom multipath X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:07:11 -0000 Thanks!. I did know that there would be only one active path, but path switching doesnt seem to happen when one path fails. The behaviour is intermittent, so i was wondering if there are any kernel tunables that i could play with, like timeout variables etc. ________________________________ From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Ganesh kamath Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 8:36:13 PM Subject: Re: Geom multipath On Thursday 06 November 2008 07:13:36 am Ganesh kamath wrote: > I am trying to get multipath running in freebsd version 7. Are there > any configuration files that i can tweak with geom multipath?. The > paths are active/passive to the storage array and i dont seem to have > control of what path the IO takes, so i was wondering if there are any > tweaks thati could do to control the flow of IO to a specific path. Read the manpage. Thoroughly. gmultipath(8). :) There is only one active path to any device, and it is the first in the list of devices. You specify the device list when you create the provider and it is updated if errors occur and when gmultipath labeled devices reappear. I would guess/hope that the order would be preserved across a reboot but I'm not sure. That type of question might be suitable for the freebsd-geom@ mailing list. > Also, the IO doesnt resume when i try to do some cable pulls and plug > them back. If you're not using an mpt or isp disk controller then you have to initiate a rescan manually for the device to reappear. See camcontrol and/or atacontrol. When the device _does_ reappear it will be inserted at the end of the list, so I/O will continue across the alternate path which is still first in the list. JN _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 13:14:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F551065674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:14:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AF68FC14 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2008 08:14:54 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id PFJ26457; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:14:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Nov 2008 08:14:54 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18708.16205.131542.449645@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:14:53 -0500 To: Giorgos Keramidas In-Reply-To: <87d4h884c3.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <4913C74C.80606@gmail.com> <87d4h884c3.fsf@kobe.laptop> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spell check - how to? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:14:55 -0000 Giorgos Keramidas writes: > The main drawback of being unable to use the `freebsd' wordlist > is that you will get many false positives for words that are > perfectly valid for FreeBSD documentation but are not standard > English words. I have a script which does something similar, using ispell. It's based on the Perl script - found on-line - appended below. I pseudo-fixed that running the output through sort and starting with least frequent hits. Attempts to build a project-specific dictionary proved too confusing and it was ultimatly not worth the effort. Robert Huff #!/usr/local/bin/perl -W # WordFreq.pl -- Count word frequency in a text file $ver = "v1.0"; # 05-Dec-2001 JP Vossen {jp@jpsdomain.org> # Basics from 8.3, page 280 of _Perl_Cookbook_ # Added stop words (($myname = $0) =~ s/^.*(\/|\\)|\..*$//ig); # remove up to last "\" or "/" and after any "." $Greeting = ("$myname $ver Copyright 12001 JP Vossen (http://www.jpsdomain.org/)\n"); $Greeting .= (" Licensed under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE:\n"); $Greeting .= (" See http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html for full text and details.\n"); # Version and copyright info %seen = (); # Create the hash # Define the stopwords @stopwords = ("a", "an", "and", "are", "as", "at", "be", "but", "by", "does", "for", "from", "had", "have", "her", "his", "if", "in", "is", "it", "not", "of", "on", "or", "that", "the", "this", "to", "was", "which", "with", "you"); if (("@ARGV" =~ /\?/) || (@ARGV > 5) || (@ARGV < 0)) { #if wrong # of args, or a ? in args - die print STDERR ("\n$Greeting\n\tUsage: $myname -i {infile} [-s]\n"); print STDERR ("\nIf -s is used, the list of stop words will NOT be used.\n"); print STDERR ("The stopwords currently defined are:\n\n "); foreach $stopword (@stopwords) { print STDERR ("$stopword "); } # end of foreach stopword die ("\n"); } use Getopt::Std; # User Perl5 built-in program argument handler getopts('i:o:s'); # Define possible args. if (! $opt_i) { $opt_i = "-"; } # If no input file specified, use STDIN if (! $opt_o) { $opt_o = "-"; } # If no output file specified, use STDOUT open (INFILE, "$opt_i") || die "$myname: error opening $opt_i $!\n"; open (OUTFILE, ">$opt_o") || die "$myname: error opening $opt_o $!\n"; print STDERR ("\n$Greeting\n"); while () { # Read the input file while ( /(\w['\w-]*)/g ) { # If we have a "word" $seen{lc $1}++; # Count it in the hash } # end of while words } # end of while input if (! $opt_s) { # If we're using stopwords foreach $stopword (@stopwords) { # for each stopword delete($seen{$stopword}); # Remove it from the hash } # end of foreach stopword # This way we only test once for each } # end of if using stopwords stopword, rather than in a loop! # Print the results, sorted most frequent words at the top foreach $word ( sort { $seen{$b} <=> $seen{$a} } keys %seen) { printf OUTFILE ("%6d %s\n", $seen{$word}, $word); } # end of foreach word From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 13:26:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2B81065674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589FE8FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so619003nfh.33 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:26:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kOqZxQHxDJkw8Vd9k0MATVFp2Y99Y4It2d1S6hDgtc4=; b=jsw2NtUbfFU2gmw6qJTAQcXhHc83LnQ8zxUEJJbuX6BxlxH3VitlI11Jx/jvU7PDzd hYMSXQjeXXL/HKW3vTXxe7BX8F4Fi6+cEjOp+0oLjZaB+nb3QerD+i6QqlK22PMCS/cT djoAELDNMIMY6Fx8BTDidtJEHzQRZZbm5QDrc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tsa2eRfpis2UilWWyVrjrcD4JV1d1OHLSE7F5Y4pwyyrtNk/qs31bl5tSL75kxtE2j MmtqSC8PpjFc2O87VppCUnf2QTs+ijIKLF8KYUS0mN6KgCkc8el8tMGv6V6vIyD9qp4V GNcA57DprcGNTNHtlHql+Tmkfvp3td/1TgEt0= Received: by 10.210.71.11 with SMTP id t11mr3942013eba.57.1226064385147; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from atlantis.dyndns.org (athedsl-311367.home.otenet.gr [85.72.71.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c4sm13717868nfi.13.2008.11.07.05.26.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:26:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <491441FE.1090708@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:26:22 +0200 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081011) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo Nagy References: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: eps to jpg conversion - which program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:26:26 -0000 Laszlo Nagy wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to convert eps files into jpeg files in batch mode. Gimp works > perfectly, except that I cannot use an X display. I tried eps2png with > no success: > > > %file test.eps > test.eps: DOS EPS Binary File Postscript starts at byte 30 length > 566887 TIFF starts at byte 566917 length 4741 > %eps2png -jpg -width 1000 -verbose -output test.jpg test.eps > Producing jpg (jpeg) image. > Not EPS file: test.eps, skipped > > What port should I use to convert EPS into JPG? I would like to use a > program that shares the same library with Gimp, because we know that > Gimp works great for this task. > > Thanks, > > Laszlo > How about using 'convert' from graphics/ImageMagick? It would be as simple as convert myfile.eps myfile.jpg and there are myriads of options to fiddle if you wish. I've been using it with great success for quite some time now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 14:13:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7B21065677 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timm@ticore.de) Received: from businessbox4.server-home.net (businessbox4.server-home.net [195.137.212.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AC48FC12 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:13:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from timm@ticore.de) Received: from [192.168.1.73] (ip-97-18.travedsl.de [85.233.18.97]) by businessbox4.server-home.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE30AA5AE; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:41:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49144596.9000500@ticore.de> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:41:42 +0100 From: Timm Wimmers User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laszlo Nagy References: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> In-Reply-To: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: eps to jpg conversion - which program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:13:53 -0000 Laszlo Nagy schrieb: > I need to convert eps files into jpeg files in batch mode. Gimp works > perfectly, except that I cannot use an X display. I tried eps2png with > no success: > > > %file test.eps > test.eps: DOS EPS Binary File Postscript starts at byte 30 length 566887 > TIFF starts at byte 566917 length 4741 > %eps2png -jpg -width 1000 -verbose -output test.jpg test.eps > Producing jpg (jpeg) image. > Not EPS file: test.eps, skipped > > What port should I use to convert EPS into JPG? I would like to use a > program that shares the same library with Gimp, because we know that > Gimp works great for this task. Take a look on GhostScript, a PostScript interpreter. -- Timm From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 14:17:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5C51065679 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:17:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6D4C8FC1A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 19742 invoked by uid 98); 7 Nov 2008 14:16:15 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. 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(192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 14:16:14 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Mike Clarke In-Reply-To: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:17:25 +0000 Message-Id: <1226067445.1360.11.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:17:47 -0000 On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 18:13 +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: > I've installed en-openoffice.org-GB-3.0.0 from ports on my 6.4-RC1 > system. The install, using the command > portinstall -m "LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB -DWITH_KDE" > editors/openoffice.org-3, appeared to complete OK and I can > run /usr/local/bin/openoffice.org-3.0.0-swriter but attempts to check > spelling in a document with known spelling errors always fail to find > any errors. > > The "Available language modules" section in Tools - Options - Language > Settings - Writing Aids" is empty, unlike my copy of Openoffice 2.3 > which has 3 entries in this section. > > Should the language modules have been installed or have I missed > anything when installing the port? > Hi Mike, Don't think ya missed anything, I am in the same boat... I also compiled with the LOCALIZED_LANG=en-GB flag. Anybody with a solution ? my spelling isn't that good so would need to spell check my documents. Regards Craig B From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 14:25:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51EF1065679 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:25:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE7B8FC0A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:25:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA7EPPIi018624 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:25:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:25:30 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE23A@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pkg_delete delete files even if md5 check fails Thread-Index: AclA5K+wUPEd9Ju5RQ6rpAnhtTKD/A== From: "Johan Hendriks" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: pkg_delete delete files even if md5 check fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:25:27 -0000 How can i tell pkg_delete to delete all files of a package even if the = md5 checks fail? =20 Regards, Johan Hendriks =20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 14:27:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112491065689 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F988FC0C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:27:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cELQ1a00A0mv7h058ETMuh; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:27:21 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cETo1a00y2P6wsM3XETpoL; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:27:50 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=zF_jHubfC2MA:10 a=emDfXLPHkU4A:10 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=6KNBxtUasNkA1_TdPQkA:9 a=SR6MSvYTt61HsVUBQ0FPVMCIDIQA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BBEEF5C19; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:27:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:27:48 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Johan Hendriks Message-ID: <20081107142748.GA7201@icarus.home.lan> References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE23A@w2003s01.double-l.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE23A@w2003s01.double-l.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pkg_delete delete files even if md5 check fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:27:51 -0000 On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 03:25:30PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: > How can i tell pkg_delete to delete all files of a package even if the md5 checks fail? Does the -f flag do this? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 14:41:50 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C2091065673; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.22]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381F78FC17; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Received: from w2003s01.double-l.local (double-l.xs4all.nl [80.126.205.144]) by smtp-vbr2.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA7EfmX3079086; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:41:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Johan@double-l.nl) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:41:53 +0100 Message-ID: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE23C@w2003s01.double-l.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pkg_delete delete files even if md5 check fails Thread-Index: AclA5WpFnYrn/3vKTNet+MK8QHzsjQAAVWjg References: <57200BF94E69E54880C9BB1AF714BBCB5DE23A@w2003s01.double-l.local> <20081107142748.GA7201@icarus.home.lan> From: "Johan Hendriks" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: pkg_delete delete files even if md5 check fails X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:41:50 -0000 Yes off course it does! I thought it only deleted the package even if other packages depends on = it. Sorry for the somewhat stupid question. Regards, Johan Hendriks -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jeremy Chadwick [mailto:koitsu@FreeBSD.org]=20 Verzonden: vrijdag 7 november 2008 15:28 Aan: Johan Hendriks CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Onderwerp: Re: pkg_delete delete files even if md5 check fails On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 03:25:30PM +0100, Johan Hendriks wrote: > How can i tell pkg_delete to delete all files of a package even if the = md5 checks fail? Does the -f flag do this? --=20 | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: = 6-11-2008 20:23 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: = 6-11-2008 20:23 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 14:49:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8001065686 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64AE8FC21 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 14:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so504368yxb.13 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:49:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UK57SQoCfkuqlv7AuIl9yhLJxtMy2WGGf0pB7Z0CKXE=; b=yC81afWBMTbbl34nPlmfbCEZTJqyxp236ZJjXp5x9I/86J1Rh84nWiHG8jrWx+5Mcb sP9SeI+MTtbEsxhVPhiG3xFosB6iO+lofUCh0C+3Z7p0zFtVxxUcZHEcwIo0yWT+UNM3 A91YjFzwTDTahLbGLH8yErsa1hHZMNnxBInzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=W3OW/5u65OmOB1f/HXeJKoRx+fSHyCXNk/zoL6GrLoojuS29DkmDF+5kd5Vs3DZdqM Rjmtpz8Lr57Z0699vkeCYhkdulmGmS6IKPvFpPwBy4hQUPhh0MSze2hlNoJwLs9i3A0y H++Up6UJPsJq7ZGegUm3fPEFFQ+LOr7GUWDdE= Received: by 10.151.156.1 with SMTP id i1mr3654169ybo.228.1226069360169; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:49:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.6.13 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 06:49:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <340a29540811070649r503324ek29a42c23f67d8be5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:49:20 -0700 From: "Andrew Falanga" To: RW In-Reply-To: <20081105222606.76ca14f2@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0016e64bddfee7b2b6045af25294@google.com> <20081105222606.76ca14f2@gumby.homeunix.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:49:21 -0000 On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, RW wrote: > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800 > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > the only >> thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a portupgrade -r too). > > Aside from the fact that there are separate kde meta-ports, > portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and everything that depends > on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends on. Thanks for the clarification. I think I had things backwards. Also, as I'd like to go to KDE 4, should I do a make deinstall in kdebase, or perhaps pkg_delete for the kde packages before installing? I know that the first respondent said the two versions could be run in tandem, and while I've got plenty of disk space for this, it also seems quite error prone. What would be the recommended course? Andy -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 15:35:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334E5106567A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E580B8FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:35:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1KyT26-0004ny-GY>; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:13:58 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1KyT26-0001KS-FX>; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:13:58 +0100 Message-ID: <49145AA5.2040507@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:11:33 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080927) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: FreeBSD 7/CURRENT and AutoFS or AMD (automounter) with OpenLDAP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:35:18 -0000 Hello out there, I run into trouble. When looking for AutoFS in the net I find a lot about AutoFS on Linux and, surprisingly, for FreeBSD 6.X, but those messages are dated to the year 2004/2006. I'm running FreeBSD 7.X and FreeBSD 8.0-CUR boxes and tried to find something about AutoFS, but I'm still stuck with the 'well known AMD or Berkeley AutoMounterDaemon. What happened to AutoFS? I'm stuck with amd (from FreeBSD's contrib) and I need to keep my maps in OpenLDAP, but when searching for how to map amd.map-files into the right shape of an OpenLDAP object (I borrowed the RedHat automount.ldif-schema, OpenLDAP 2.4.11 seems to lack in an apropriate schema), I only find Linux-Howtos reflecting AutoFS in Linux (and that is different from amd). Is help possible? Thanks, in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 16:24:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6601065677 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA3E8FC21 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:24:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1KyU8Z-0004bc-3H>; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:24:43 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1KyU8Z-0004kd-2E>; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:24:43 +0100 Message-ID: <49146B3A.7060307@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:22:18 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080927) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: FreeBSD 7/8 and AMD/automounter with LDAP support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:24:44 -0000 Just sneaked through the /usr/src/contrib/amd code base of the amd automounter and found amd is naturally not built with LDAP support. Well, how can I configure 'make world' to automatically build 'amd' with LDAP support (as I can do this with sendmail being build with cyrus-sasl-support via some knobs in /etc/make.conf)? I did not understood whether amd has full LDAP support or is lacking in some code, so I appreciate any hint or help. Thanks in advance, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 17:01:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C711C106564A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D408FC17 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darwinian.empire@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k31so1571740fkk.11 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:01:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=lfWcOuiVp1yVx2fP3ylTNKs/fClD7c2pAoTV0yodjlg=; b=Y700/a8bcNn4vzanAuBRG+z1uwwdnWFF+Zjwjks2uguNSBsEGMyb3FanuutphlMR+u TC9noJeObn9ESPe0fDj0kqxqy03BRpNN+0EJJ33bZW53CbVm6QVai4uN9lfHYg9L0APA KZZB2X8TOGTp8XvP3q5Ihwo3XVNB3l1wsjrrA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=rgrVmVRZXio7VT2yx1WxQFaD4vRH2IJgdTRSyT+EstGXpAvOpykKvLlXli1Lkvcy4R UX4OqSxU9NseiResD3rTPPi84X1KWab7oJudh+MzyQ37xpDhYPCS6ymNJ6PA13brBV5R 24LxTyVmLL8d5l8cgQfvBHvykmLeHG6/gTm9w= Received: by 10.181.153.12 with SMTP id f12mr1105133bko.132.1226077288893; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:01:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.181.207.5 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:01:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:01:28 +0200 From: "Roey Dror" To: "FreeBSD Questions" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Preserving X forwarded applications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:01:30 -0000 I'm looking for a solution similar to the screen utility, but for X11. I want, for example, to burn a cd on a remote computer using some GUI application. If, for any reason, the network goes down while burning, I suppose I lose the whole thing. Same thing goes when editing a document. I know that I can launch a VNC/NX server, but X forwarding is a much more comfortable solution. Is there any way to make sure a X forwarded application won't die when my session is disconnected? Also, I would like to be able to "reconnect" the window when logging back in. -- Roey From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 17:10:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8A91065674 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:10:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFC98FC27 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:10:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD2CBAFC1C6; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:10:21 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:10:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811071810.18274.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Roey Dror Subject: Re: Preserving X forwarded applications X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:10:23 -0000 On Friday 07 November 2008 18:01:28 Roey Dror wrote: > Is there any way to make sure a X forwarded application won't die when > my session is disconnected? > Also, I would like to be able to "reconnect" the window when logging back > in. Of course you can try to fiddle with X forwarding to do this, but net/x11vnc, especially the -shared option is made for this. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 17:18:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E31F1065678 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 371AC8FC21 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 27782 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2008 17:18:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=INWZM/0BqUN2FLWnb3v71cRS4zmpXrld+4FW/Gi/N3S/qY+cdlztV01oEsxiTbyUpguumomHI53e/UTlMenG7zM2NgYK3SanhwlBsFPzShoeXsg0kwZ8SZW1oy5sf60WAFmGj2Lrgh4tB/497ODRNPULTYHdfvCjBDE63Bj6fB4=; X-YMail-OSG: DlbXlhIVM1mLFoaaY505IePE9vXgB_nWXeuXflX7_dETvfDLUxG4QRe9UXdsesm1fPUSlijH9b1VIlXlMlrWxlTJUo4.cWW9FhNGJEWaunbcEuMlZtNf3GvpyXtDHwKR9d4fbDnrVd1iJJFxCA52fhIIdA-- Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:18:42 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:18:42 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: Andrew Falanga In-Reply-To: <340a29540811070649r503324ek29a42c23f67d8be5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <529605.26842.qm@web56807.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:18:43 -0000 --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Andrew Falanga wrote: > From: Andrew Falanga > Subject: Re: How to upgrade to KDE4 > To: "RW" > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 9:49 AM > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:26 PM, RW > wrote: > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:52:06 -0800 > > af300wsm@gmail.com wrote: > > the only > >> thing that updated was the meta-port (I did a > portupgrade -r too). > > > > Aside from the fact that there are separate kde > meta-ports, > > portupgrade -r kde... updates the metaport and > everything that depends > > on the metaport, not everything the metaport depends > on. > > Thanks for the clarification. I think I had things > backwards. > > Also, as I'd like to go to KDE 4, should I do a make > deinstall in > kdebase, or perhaps pkg_delete for the kde packages before > installing? > I know that the first respondent said the two versions > could be run > in tandem, and while I've got plenty of disk space for > this, it also > seems quite error prone. What would be the recommended > course? KDE3 and KDE4 co-habitate just fine. You'll likely need KDE3 installed for some apps which don't use KDE4 libs yet. I am pretty sure ktorrent is what installed kde3 on my system when I upgraded recently. There are plenty of others, though. KDE4 installs under /usr/local/kde4, while KDE3 installs under /usr/local at this time (assuming you haven't changed port bases yourself.) Because of this, you'll likely want to remember to add /usr/local/kde4/{bin,sbin} to your shell search paths, and remember to use kdm from KDE4 as your login manager (this tricked me at first, and I was wondering for a bit why I was still getting a KDE3 login manager until I realized that KDE4 went under /usr/local/kde4/). I would not say that it is error prone at all. Everything has, so far, worked out of the box just fine save a couple of KDE4 bugs I've tweaked, none of which are bad enough to prevent me from working normally in KDE4 or to make me want to dump KDE4. - mdh From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 17:23:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6374A1065676 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3D88FC0A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD299C080 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A09F164A57 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:23:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:23:46 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Confused About Linux Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:23:53 -0000 I am attempting to install a Linux RPM of Legato's Networker Backup Client on FBSD 7.1 I do not know if this is possible but I hope so. :) I have followed instructions in the Handbook and http://www.linux.com/articles/53055. I am at the point of installing an appropriate linux_base port and linux_base-f8 seemed like the most recent/reasonable. However when I attempt to install, I get this output: ** Port marked as IGNORE: emulators/linux_base-f8: compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - emulators/linux_base-f8 Further Google searches suggest that compat.linux.osrelease is a sysctl setting. I've seen reference to setting it to 2.6.16 but also that this is experimental. I found http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel but this leaves me confused as well. Bottom line, what linux_base port should I install and do I need to set this sysctl to something? I'm confused... Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 17:45:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0077106567E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76208FC21 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1885C22; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 07:48:15 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <49147EAE.7080302@hdk5.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:45:18 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:45:19 -0000 FBSD1 wrote: > Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in > ms/word format. > > Thanks for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, I use ABIword from ports. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 18:37:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166C81065673 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:37:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from edu-smtp-01.edutel.nl (edu-smtp-01.edutel.nl [88.159.1.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19E38FC1C for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:37:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frankstaals@gmx.net) Received: from Rena.FStaals.net (unknown [88.159.208.104]) by edu-smtp-01.edutel.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B0D67809; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:37:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49148AE1.7010601@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:37:21 +0100 From: Frank Staals User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:37:24 -0000 FBSD1 wrote: > Looking for word processer that runs on xfce and can output document in > ms/word format. > > Thanks for your help. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Well not realy solution for the problem you mentioned. But if you have a bit of a programming background you may want to take a look at TeX/LaTeX for you documents. I know it may be like using a cannon to kill a fly but I prefer writing my documents in my basic-text editor using TeX much rather than in a a word-like application. Besides that it looks a lot better IMO. Might be something to look into if you are not realy satisfied with word-processors. Good luck, -- - Frank From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 19:18:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5781065672 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: from web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D4228FC1F for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:18:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mdh_lists@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 95355 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Nov 2008 19:18:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XXPYPzhC6PIdm4Qa+/BlfprkStRaIfDwEW+RXQzk6BN3JJHKfe0c40REvYnkm/TtzTd6AceTKbbfMrvKvaWf5K9MLC7Mie5rfiF88Y2E8qUGAANKGynFkVj4WwOwxQgwMARCpBUWMnbgKX1Se2IuxFTLraM294v7s8eFhhi9u5c=; X-YMail-OSG: ox_KKFgVM1nc8afGpb3ctvrWwgdkEzmV3Un6e_UnUVHMDi76GhotDfp6Hb97EDbwO9QktSL6asd8B.gzQfFFkzl_NvIMgTZmOVSSa8NtPWlP3czOz2eSMekOklm9z9yLTBu6 Received: from [71.61.220.126] by web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:18:01 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:18:01 -0800 (PST) From: mdh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <602990.94226.qm@web56802.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: host -6 failure X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mdh_lists@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:18:03 -0000 Howdy folks, I'm having a little trouble understanding a problem that the `host` command in RELENG_7_0 (very recent) is having. This is by and large my first time working with IPv6, which I've been meaning to learn for some time. First off, I've got my zone file configured to return a AAAA record for x1.mydomain and named isn't complaining. However, when I run `host -6 x1.mydomain`, host returns the following output: (root@rapier) [/etc/namedb]: host -6 x1.mydomain /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: ::ffff:127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: ::ffff:IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: ::ffff:127.0.0.1#53: Invalid argument /usr/src/lib/bind/isc/../../../contrib/bind9/lib/isc/unix/socket.c:1179: internal_send: ::ffff:IP.IP.IP.8#53: Invalid argument ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached IP.IP.IP.8 is my ISP's DNS server, and is a third option just in case the localhost DNS server crashes or goes batty while I'm out drinking or somesuch. Here's my resolv.conf, which shows ::1 listed as the second nameserver entry - however, it seems host -6 never even tries it. domain mydomain search mydomain nameserver 127.0.0.1 nameserver ::1 nameserver IP.IP.IP.8 The DNS server running on localhost is authoritative for mydomain. I can ping it via localhost using both v4 and v6, and I can also ping the external v4 and v6 addresses just fine remotely. As I said, I'm new to IPv6, but this behavior seems to be counterintuitive. Am I just doing it wrong? Thanks, Matt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 19:19:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98FE1065672 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0968FC1D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:19:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-88-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.88.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776D45134F; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:19:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA7JJs8J003259; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:19:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:19:53 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Laszlo Nagy Message-Id: <20081107201954.5d7e4993.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> References: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: eps to jpg conversion - which program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:19:57 -0000 On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:36:51 +0100, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to convert eps files into jpeg files in batch mode. Gimp works > perfectly, except that I cannot use an X display. I tried eps2png with > no success: You can use the convert command from ImageMagick: convert A batch solution is simple: #!/bin/sh for f in *eps; do convert ${f} `basename ${f} .eps`.jpg done You can add [ ! -f `basename ${f} .eps`.jpg ] && infront of the convert command to avoid repeated conversions. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 19:34:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAC61065686 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:34:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDC08FC1E for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-88-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.88.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731B6511BB; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:34:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA7JY9kU003307; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:34:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:34:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Frank Staals Message-Id: <20081107203409.6857c714.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49148AE1.7010601@gmx.net> References: <49148AE1.7010601@gmx.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" , fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:34:16 -0000 On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:37:21 +0100, Frank Staals wrote: > Well not realy solution for the problem you mentioned. But if you have a > bit of a programming background you may want to take a look at TeX/LaTeX > for you documents. I know it may be like using a cannon to kill a fly > but I prefer writing my documents in my basic-text editor using TeX > much rather than in a a word-like application. A big advantage is that LaTeX source files are plain text, so they can be transferred between systems without problems. Furthermore, you don't need a particular program to read a file. > Besides that it looks a > lot better IMO. >From the standpoint of typography LaTeX is superior to any WYSIWYG word processor. Why? Because it's a professional typesetting system. Hyphenation, paragraph setting, picture adjustment and other things tha are important are handled correctly. The support for other languages (e. g. German) is excellent. > Might be something to look into if you are not realy > satisfied with word-processors. An alternative to use the power of LaTeX without needing to know about the macros is to use LyX. But using LaTeX itself is much easier. The difference between LaTeX and the usual wprd processors is like the difference between HTML (created by hand) and the crap that comes out of authoring systems and CMSs. I'm doing most of my stuff with LaTeX: Letters (dinbrief class), technical documentation, statistics (in combination with gnuplot), books (stories), lists and forms. When you're familiar with LaTeX, you won't want to miss it, because you can work faster *and* get better results than anyone with the usual "Word" skills, clickity click, nyak nyak, blah blah. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 19:39:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B001065676 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: from av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA998FC1A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 240olofsson@telia.com) Received: by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 319E738118; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:39:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net [81.228.9.101]) by av8-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE08C37F18 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:39:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.31] (90-230-141-139-no41.tbcn.telia.com [90.230.141.139]) by smtp3-1-sn3.vrr.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB50F37E46 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:39:51 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49149984.8050108@telia.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:39:48 +0100 From: Roger Olofsson <240olofsson@telia.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> <20081106220151.N28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081106220151.N28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: raggen@raggens.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:39:53 -0000 Wojciech Puchar skrev: >> may be asking in the wrong mailing list, but my impression is that mono >> on FreeBSD is generally not a popular idea. >> >> To pose my questions to the developers in the FreeBSD community: >> 1. What programming language(s) do you deploy on FreeBSD? > > whatever i need. i personally use mostly C. > >> 2. Is FreeBSD more optimised in performance for any particular language? > > i don't think so. > >> 3. Is FreeBSD even a popular choice as a development platform, or is it >> better suited as a special-purpose OS (eg. mail server, DNS server)? > > i don't know how popular it is for what tasks. but it works excellent > for all you specified. it's unix anyway. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1771 - Release Date: 2008-11-06 07:58 > IMHO there are only three alternatives left these days when creativity seems to be fading.... C - the prince among languages and Eclipse + Java - the future already today. And - For learning purposes - the highly underrated Pascal by Niklaus Wirth. In my mind C was created as a tool needed to create UNIX....Where did creativity like this vanish? (does anyone still use the word homepage?) (cm.bell-labs.com/~dmr) /Roger From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 19:58:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DE4106567D for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:58:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: from m.nyi.net (m.nyi.net [66.111.12.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB9CF8FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:58:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darek@nyi.net) Received: (qmail 90335 invoked by uid 79); 7 Nov 2008 19:32:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.50.50.200?) (darek@nyi.net@64.147.100.2) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 19:32:03 -0000 Message-ID: <491497B1.80507@nyi.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:32:01 -0500 From: "Darek M." User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: sudo, LDAP, and Kerberos X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:58:47 -0000 I'm setting up a centralized Kerberos/LDAP authentication system and trying to get sudo to use a) Kerberos for the password, and b) LDAP for a non-local user's group. Locally on a client system "/etc/sudoers" specifies %sysadmin to be able to sudo to root. I don't need to move "sudoers" to LDAP just yet. I've had success on some machines compiling sudo from source with --enable-kerb5 and --enable-ldap. But on many other systems sudo segfaults, or returns bus errors, and overall gave me nothing but grief. So I'm looking for alternate ways of supplying sudo with a user's group. Is it possible to compile sudo (without kerberos and ldap support) and configure a pam.d file (/etc/pam.d/sudo) to interact with kerberos and LDAP? I created a sudo file with auth sufficient pam_opie.so no_warn no_fake_prompts auth requisite pam_opieaccess.so no_warn allow_local auth sufficient pam_krb5.so warn try_first_pass ... and running sudo (compiled with only a ./configure, no other options) as a non-local user I successfully authenticate, but then sudo has no idea of the group this user belongs to and says "not in the sudoers file". Is it possible to use PAM as a go-between for sudo and the remote LDAP system to provide sudo with the user's group info? How has everyone else set up a central auth system? Seems to me sudo's configure script has some flaws and I don't want to rely on it. Maybe there's a better way, but aside from sudo acting up, the above would be a fine set up for me. Any pointers appreciated. - Darek From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 20:01:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9411065670 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:01:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7452D8FC1B for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA7K1KuR036912; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:01:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA7K1KDV036909; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:01:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:01:20 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: raggen@raggens.net In-Reply-To: <49149984.8050108@telia.com> Message-ID: <20081107210038.X36895@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <49131701.9020208@extracktor.com> <20081106220151.N28070@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <49149984.8050108@telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: what is your programming language on freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:01:33 -0000 > IMHO there are only three alternatives left these days when creativity seems > to be fading.... C - the prince among languages and Eclipse + Java - the > future already today. it's very sad that such crap like java have to be the future. unfortunately already it's popular. 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(ool-182d26f3.dyn.optonline.net [24.45.38.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q20sm6160344pog.22.2008.11.07.12.22.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:22:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4914A389.3070404@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:22:33 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> In-Reply-To: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eitan Adler Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Confused About Linux Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:22:45 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Drew Tomlinson wrote: > Bottom line, what linux_base port should I install and do I need to set > this sysctl to something? I'm confused... If you have a recent 7-STABLE changing the linux kernel version to 2.6.16 and running -f8 should not be a problem. If your running 6-* or 7-RELEASE stick with linux base fc4. - -- GNU Key fingerptrint: 2E13 BC16 5F54 0FBD 62ED 42B6 B65F 24AB E9C2 CCD1 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkUo4kACgkQtl8kq+nCzNELmACdG92S7vBswh/33vKxt8n3EBeB AnYAnREzk7Jj+1+NdWT4F31ZTKwqGorJ =01rY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 20:34:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183991065679 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from mail.ipt.ru (mail.ipt.ru [194.62.233.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51528FC18 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 20:34:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsam@ipt.ru) Received: from sp34.ipt.ru ([194.62.233.107] helo=bs1.sp34.ru) by mail.ipt.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.62 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KyY1u-0009ph-Qj; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:34:06 +0300 Received: from bsam by bs1.sp34.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KyY1u-0000LT-LE; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:34:06 +0300 To: Drew Tomlinson References: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> From: Boris Samorodov Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:34:06 +0300 In-Reply-To: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> (Drew Tomlinson's message of "Fri\, 07 Nov 2008 09\:23\:46 -0800") Message-ID: <46837793@bs1.sp34.ru> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Confused About Linux Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:34:09 -0000 Drew Tomlinson writes: > I am attempting to install a Linux RPM of Legato's Networker Backup > Client on FBSD 7.1 I do not know if this is possible but I hope so. > :) > > I have followed instructions in the Handbook and > http://www.linux.com/articles/53055. I am at the point of installing > an appropriate linux_base port and linux_base-f8 seemed like the most > recent/reasonable. However when I attempt to install, I get this > output: > > ** Port marked as IGNORE: emulators/linux_base-f8: > compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - emulators/linux_base-f8 > > Further Google searches suggest that compat.linux.osrelease is a > sysctl setting. I've seen reference to setting it to 2.6.16 but also > that this is experimental. I found > http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel but this leaves me confused as > well. > > Bottom line, what linux_base port should I install and do I need to > set this sysctl to something? I'm confused... Current default (i.e. well tested and supported) linux base port is linux_base-fc4 with compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2. This should be your first try. If you get any further questions a better mailing list (to look for additional information as well as asking questions) is freebsd-emulation@. Cheers, -- Boris Samorodov (bsam) Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & Internet SP FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 21:05:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FCD1065677 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:05:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Received: from anthesphoria.net (anthesphoria.net [200.46.204.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328728FC1A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 21:05:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.1 anthesphoria.net mA7L5lxg006296 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anthesphoria.net; s=phero; t=1226091953; bh=HanXTZ588R6knIFQXGpH+QZOqNSsNEV88IPOY6eC2 2k=; l=3010; h=X-Bogosity:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:X-Face:X-Operating-System: X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint:X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=hPO4k1fd0tZWL0V7/tTKNz7g zTUXPJc7RWaa/4xwkLLxWRgBNrRdyFZjHfDnl+vMmElDAx1+brnwbweUFRzMnQyJTwH l/fsaP2G6spBCS8qIgKYcRChUmrG9Z/9zqfB5ZDpguvU8LchJzYxYZCM9nn+dAQgDn1 Uymg40HhX9vDk= Received: from anthesphoria.net (adsl-200-199.eunet.yu [213.198.200.199]) (authenticated bits=0) by anthesphoria.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA7L5lxg006296 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:05:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nikola.lecic@anthesphoria.net) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:02:33 +0100 From: Nikola =?UTF-8?B?TGXEjWnEhw==?= To: Craig Butler , Mike Clarke Message-ID: <20081107220233.62215f62@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <1226067445.1360.11.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> References: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <1226067445.1360.11.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) X-Face: pbl6-.[$G'Fi(Ogs2xlXP-V6{3||$Y[LOYs&~GJoikj'cVjcFC[V7du;;0~6nO= [Vi2?uU1Pq~,=Adj@,T:|"`$AF~il]J.Nz#2pU',Y7.{B;m/?{#sO^Dvo$rnmY6] X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE/i386 X-OpenPGP-Fingerprint: FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B X-OpenPGP-Preferred-Keyserver: x-hkp://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:05:56 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:17:25 +0000 Craig Butler wrote: =20 > On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 18:13 +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: > > I've installed en-openoffice.org-GB-3.0.0 from ports on my 6.4-RC1=20 > > system. The install, using the command =20 > > portinstall -m "LOCALIZED_LANG=3Den-GB -DWITH_KDE"=20 > > editors/openoffice.org-3, appeared to complete OK and I can=20 > > run /usr/local/bin/openoffice.org-3.0.0-swriter but attempts to > > check spelling in a document with known spelling errors always fail > > to find any errors. > >=20 > > The "Available language modules" section in Tools - Options - > > Language Settings - Writing Aids" is empty, unlike my copy of > > Openoffice 2.3 which has 3 entries in this section. > >=20 > > Should the language modules have been installed or have I missed=20 > > anything when installing the port? > >=20 >=20 > Hi Mike, >=20 > Don't think ya missed anything, I am in the same boat... > I also compiled with the LOCALIZED_LANG=3Den-GB flag. >=20 > Anybody with a solution ? my spelling isn't that good so would need to > spell check my documents. I have sr-openoffice.org-3.1.20081009/, i.e. openoffice.org-3-devel compiled with 'editors/openoffice*' =3D> [ 'LOCALIZED_LANG=3Dsr', 'WITHOUT_CUPS=3Dyes', 'WITH_SYSTEM_FREETYPE=3Dyes', 'WITH_SYSTEM_ICU=3Dyes', ] on FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Sun Oct 12 (i386) and I have all 3 sections in Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Writing Aids. The OpenOffice.org dictionaries page says: IMPORTANT NOTE: From OpenOffice.org 3.0 on the dictionary wizard is not longer available -- Dictionaries are now available via the extensions repository. [http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries] So, the OpenOffice.org-3 users are supposed to download .oxt files and run them. However, I experienced the 'bad transfer url' problem with all extension files; this was reported on FreeBSD mailing lists in the past with no available solution. Happily, the instruction from the same page (DictOOo-Wizard, intended for OpenOffice.org-2) worked just fine in my OpenOffice-3. I downloaded http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionarie= s/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw and it worked like a charm, installing Hunspell Spellchecker module and dictionary files. Hope this helps. - --=20 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 =3D =D0=9D=D0=B8=D0=BA=D0=BE=D0=BB=D0=B0 =D0=9B=D0= =B5=D1=87=D0=B8=D1=9B fingerprint : FEF3 66AF C90E EDC3 D878 7CDC 956D F4AB A377 1C9B ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iJwEAQEDAAYFAkkUrO0ACgkQ/MM/0rYIoZigygQAoaoye0FYqsGtJzCBTZyXRC3M M9WnvgbNKM5rtN8C4MCtdrtUf0yh9hckFdCd1HsQg6IiqCu0qw2iY8VpYp3++D6H xeTYLqMV6Rs5WdsdUpZZUSvA4YfeGhkKK0J4nHNG884XKzx3moqDc3OZISN08zX3 +byFpVnii7CIFxdmFeU=3D =3DRK8z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 22:01:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CCE106578A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from ptb-relay03.plus.net (ptb-relay03.plus.net [212.159.14.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F1F8FC0A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk) Received: from [84.92.153.232] (helo=curlew.milibyte.co.uk) by ptb-relay03.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1KyZOV-0004OI-Dq; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:01:31 +0000 Received: by curlew.milibyte.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KyZOU-0005SX-TO; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:01:31 +0000 From: Mike Clarke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:01:30 +0000 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <1226067445.1360.11.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <20081107220233.62215f62@anthesphoria.net> In-Reply-To: <20081107220233.62215f62@anthesphoria.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811072201.30766.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on curlew.milibyte.co.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Plusnet-Relay: 23deab808efbdfd57a938c398af0507f Cc: Craig Butler , Nikola =?utf-8?q?Le=C4=8Di=C4=87?= Subject: Re: Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:01:41 -0000 On Friday 07 November 2008, Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 wrote: > Happily, the instruction from the same page (DictOOo-Wizard, intended > for OpenOffice.org-2) worked just fine in my OpenOffice-3. I > downloaded > > =C2=A0 > http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/diction >aries/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw > > and it worked like a charm, installing Hunspell Spellchecker module > and dictionary files. > > Hope this helps. Thanks for your help Nikola. I downloaded and ran DictOOo-Wizard and it=20 worked perfectly. =2D-=20 Mike Clarke From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 23:27:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A60801065670 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-112.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-112.bluehost.com [69.89.24.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 723B68FC1A for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:27:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 4153 invoked by uid 0); 7 Nov 2008 23:27:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 23:27:36 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=WWp/jWHC3WFnjhudlqhqOXYL+f9Zx76ye8urTfYIyolDf4gZ8vBVsvqjHVu8tT8vLuB52BOqKGNNAW3sBWe47nMce04698+ROrF/tHRItiPq0qxLNlNSpuqdyeZ4jKgP; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kyajo-0002KA-4X for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:27:36 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <35f70db10811062251v7df8c7d2y69112e1768dc0cf4@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ftEhullJWpWg/VHq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <35f70db10811062251v7df8c7d2y69112e1768dc0cf4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:27:38 -0000 --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 08:51:06AM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 wrote: >=20 > > Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do abo= ut > > it. > > sorry >=20 > Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or =2E . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll to the end before typing. It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "You can never entirely stop being what you once were. That's why it's important to be the right person today, and not put it off till tomorrow." --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkUzwAACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKXUDACg+qyA27Z93zu9fTDIvd6LeA2N 3I0Anjj1bRdB8/6rG4JzuWZP4hLdPan4 =K/iX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ftEhullJWpWg/VHq-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 23:45:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2C71065676 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: from wattres.watt.com (wattres.watt.com [66.93.133.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689E48FC13 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:45:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: from wattres.watt.com (localhost.watt.com [127.0.0.1]) by wattres.watt.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA7ND4v1010220 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:13:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@wattres.watt.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.watt.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mA7ND30I010219 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:13:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:13:03 -0800 From: Steve Watt To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Callsign: KD6GGD X-Archived: 1226099584.087553700@wattres.Watt.COM X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wattres.watt.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:13:04 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Steve Watt List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:45:04 -0000 ( Please cc: me on replies, as I can't keep up with traffic on -questions ) I did the following: % cd /tmp % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur % ls -ld */dir1/new drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ % System is: FreeBSD wattres.Watt.COM 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #9: Tue May 13 16:06:34 PDT 2008 root@wattres.Watt.COM:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATTRES i386 Source was probably updated a few hours before the kernel build time. Shell doesn't seem to matter (have tried both tcsh and bash). My cygwin installation seems to get it right. Known issue? A quick glance for "glob" in gnats didn't show anything promising. -- Steve Watt KD6GGD PP-ASEL-IA ICBM: 121W 56' 57.5" / 37N 20' 15.3" Internet: steve @ Watt.COM Whois: SW32-ARIN Free time? There's no such thing. It just comes in varying prices... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 7 23:48:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22AD1065676 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from outbound-mail-121.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-121.bluehost.com [67.222.38.21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 801588FC14 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 23:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: (qmail 17664 invoked by uid 0); 7 Nov 2008 23:48:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box183.bluehost.com) (69.89.25.183) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2008 23:48:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Buz3+RGgsC0ER5ks+Ndi4bahYv8fzZ/E2eIeuzhJnQGUg2/JFChWfC1mgyDp7vTsIYCi5ZiNrFAn9m/yhQOkW+jyiyO38Twg/idFPOCpCG3GAdG3kR1emfP4e5L7FL9C; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kokopelli.hydra) by box183.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Kyb4L-0007eb-RE for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:48:50 -0700 Received: by kokopelli.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:49:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:49:14 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081107234914.GC5725@kokopelli.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {737:box183.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:48:52 -0000 --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:28:07AM -0500, Michael Powell wrote: >=20 > If you are totally new to Linux/Unix and have zero experience and just wa= nt > an easy, out of the box "something other" than XP you might try the latest > incarnation of Kubuntu. I know in a FreeBSD list these comments are > sacrilege, but the broader picture is what your needs truly are. I'd suggest PC-BSD instead, and not only because it's a FreeBSD spin-off. It also provides PBI for software management, which will surely provide a gentler transition for people used to the Microsoft way of installing software, and doesn't make a lot of the design mistakes I see in Ubuntu and its spin-offs. DesktopBSD is a pretty good choice along those lines, too. Still better than Ubuntu, in my opinion. Furthermore . . . they both use KDE by default, and you don't have to use a red-headed stepchild or second-hand citizen like Kubuntu to get it. >=20 > Now running a real live "Web" presence out of your house is probably not > really a good idea if it has anything to do with business. A personal blog > can go down for indefinite periods and no harm done, but a business site = is > a different story. First, the reason for having your servers located in a > data center is they are sitting directly on the "fat pipes" of the > Internet. Second, these data centers are "multi homed" in their peerage to > other backbones. If one connection path develops a problem your site is > still going to be accessible via one of the other paths. You simply will > never have the kind of connectivity found in a real data center at home. Make sure the colocation facility of your choice is multi-homed before simply assuming it is. Some aren't. --=20 Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Larry Wall: "Just don't create a file called -rf." --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkU0/oACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKWPGACg8uWPnlBAa1Ac3ScknID9eP5e CHgAn2dugy/b+Y4jK8CA2ceX7APKuyPc =tWTN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 00:02:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFDD1065678 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D640B8FC14 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:02:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-88-233.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.88.233]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A7650913; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:02:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id mA8028jg004188; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:02:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:02:08 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Steve Watt Message-Id: <20081108010208.213ecadf.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> References: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:02:12 -0000 On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 15:13:03 -0800, Steve Watt wrote: > ( Please cc: me on replies, as I can't keep up with traffic on -questions ) > > I did the following: > > % cd /tmp > % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur > % ls -ld */dir1/new > drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ > % Really strange... I did use C Shell on FreeBSD 7-STABLE. % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur % ls -ld */dir1/new drwxr-xr-x 2 poly staff 512 Nov 8 00:57 a/dir1/new/ drwxr-xr-x 2 poly staff 512 Nov 8 00:57 b/dir1/new/ drwxr-xr-x 2 poly staff 512 Nov 8 00:57 c/dir1/new/ > Shell doesn't seem to matter (have tried both tcsh and bash). I did try BASH too, with same result as above - works. The calls to mkdir and ls refer to programs, not to shell internal commands. The only problem could be the * wildcard that the shell would have to expand before calling the actual ls program... -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 00:19:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74E8C106564A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:19:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E13C8FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:19:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@koitsu.dyndns.org) Received: from OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cQ8j1a00s16AWCUA2QKoRu; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:19:48 +0000 Received: from koitsu.dyndns.org ([69.181.141.110]) by OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cQKo1a0042P6wsM8SQKokH; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:19:48 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=QycZ5dHgAAAA:8 a=oFcvRmTIl_Bdlu3sEywA:9 a=iYvFMg5a-1JKaICA60AqqnAh_RsA:4 a=EoioJ0NPDVgA:10 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Received: by icarus.home.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F15CC5C34; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:19:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:19:47 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Steve Watt Message-ID: <20081108001947.GA2913@icarus.home.lan> References: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:19:49 -0000 On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 03:13:03PM -0800, Steve Watt wrote: > ( Please cc: me on replies, as I can't keep up with traffic on -questions ) > > I did the following: > > % cd /tmp > % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur > % ls -ld */dir1/new > drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ > % > > System is: > FreeBSD wattres.Watt.COM 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #9: Tue May 13 16:06:34 PDT 2008 root@wattres.Watt.COM:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATTRES i386 > > Source was probably updated a few hours before the kernel build time. > > Shell doesn't seem to matter (have tried both tcsh and bash). > > My cygwin installation seems to get it right. > > Known issue? A quick glance for "glob" in gnats didn't show anything promising. I can't reproduce this on any of the systems I have access to: 8.0-CURRENT amd64 (build: 2008/11/07) 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 (build: 2008/10/02) 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 (build: 2008/10/12) 7.0-STABLE i386 (build: 2008/04/19) 6.4-PRERELEASE i386 (build: 2008/10/02) 6.4-PRERELEASE i386 (build: 2008/10/02; different box) 6.2-STABLE i386 (build: 2007/08/02) 4.8-RC i386 (build: 2003/03/18) P.S. -- You're playing with Maildir, aren't you? :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 00:40:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1DF106567B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:40:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: from lerwick.hopto.org (81-178-20-70.dsl.pipex.com [81.178.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CD718FC13 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 00:40:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from craig001@lerwick.hopto.org) Received: (qmail 39265 invoked by uid 98); 8 Nov 2008 00:38:54 +0000 Received: from 192.168.0.2 by polaris.lerwick.hopto.org (envelope-from , uid 82) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/1789. hbedv: 7.1.1.11/6.35.1.178. f-prot: 4.6.6/3.16.14. spamassassin: 3.1.4. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.2):. Processed in 6.016991 secs); 08 Nov 2008 00:38:54 -0000 Received: from main.lerwick.hopto.org (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (192.168.0.2) by lerwick.hopto.org with SMTP; 8 Nov 2008 00:38:47 +0000 From: Craig Butler To: Mike Clarke In-Reply-To: <200811072201.30766.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> References: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <1226067445.1360.11.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <20081107220233.62215f62@anthesphoria.net> <200811072201.30766.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:40:01 +0000 Message-Id: <1226104801.4037.0.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Nikola =?iso-8859-2?Q?Le=E8i=E6?= , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:40:29 -0000 On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 22:01 +0000, Mike Clarke wrote: > On Friday 07 November 2008, Nikola Leèiæ wrote: > > > Happily, the instruction from the same page (DictOOo-Wizard, intended > > for OpenOffice.org-2) worked just fine in my OpenOffice-3. I > > downloaded > > > > > > http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/diction > >aries/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw > > > > and it worked like a charm, installing Hunspell Spellchecker module > > and dictionary files. > > > > Hope this helps. > > Thanks for your help Nikola. I downloaded and ran DictOOo-Wizard and it > worked perfectly. > also worked like a charm here, thanks a million. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 01:00:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC6641065678 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: from wattres.watt.com (wattres.watt.com [66.93.133.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA7F8FC1D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:00:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: from wattres.watt.com (localhost.watt.com [127.0.0.1]) by wattres.watt.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA810aN3014469; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:00:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@wattres.watt.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.watt.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id mA810ahl014468; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:00:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:00:36 -0800 From: Steve Watt To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081108010036.GA14193@wattres.Watt.COM> References: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> <20081108001947.GA2913@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081108001947.GA2913@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Callsign: KD6GGD X-Archived: 1226106036.766623242@wattres.Watt.COM X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (wattres.watt.com [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:00:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Steve Watt List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:00:37 -0000 On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 04:19:47PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 03:13:03PM -0800, Steve Watt wrote: > > ( Please cc: me on replies, as I can't keep up with traffic on -questions ) > > > > I did the following: > > > > % cd /tmp > > % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur > > % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur > > % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur > > % ls -ld */dir1/new > > drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ > > % > > > > System is: > > FreeBSD wattres.Watt.COM 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #9: Tue May 13 16:06:34 PDT 2008 root@wattres.Watt.COM:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATTRES i386 > > > > Source was probably updated a few hours before the kernel build time. > > > > Shell doesn't seem to matter (have tried both tcsh and bash). > > > > My cygwin installation seems to get it right. > > > > Known issue? A quick glance for "glob" in gnats didn't show anything promising. > > I can't reproduce this on any of the systems I have access to: Interesting. The cvsup was 13 May, about 21Z. I can't reproduce it on a 7.1-PRE box (build: 2008-Oct-15) either. The 6.3-STABLE box has been well-behaved since, so I haven't had a lot of reason to futz with it. Maybe I'll run it up to the top of 6-STABLE tonight. > 8.0-CURRENT amd64 (build: 2008/11/07) > 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 (build: 2008/10/02) > 7.1-PRERELEASE i386 (build: 2008/10/12) > 7.0-STABLE i386 (build: 2008/04/19) > 6.4-PRERELEASE i386 (build: 2008/10/02) > 6.4-PRERELEASE i386 (build: 2008/10/02; different box) > 6.2-STABLE i386 (build: 2007/08/02) > 4.8-RC i386 (build: 2003/03/18) > > P.S. -- You're playing with Maildir, aren't you? :-) Hmm... Wonder what tipped you off? :) I switched over to dovecot in Maildir mode for some of my users who seem to have excessively large mailboxes. Performance is much better for them, and I'm trying to adapt myself. Anyone know of patches for mush to use maildir or imap? (Antique finger neurons that really don't want to be retrained.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 01:07:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAC11065670 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB448FC14 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:07:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dannyman@toldme.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1388128rvf.43 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:07:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.143.42.6 with SMTP id u6mr1162869wfj.121.1226104593850; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:36:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.87.13 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:36:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2a5241e00811071636x6307da42pc36a9fb08914a3f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:36:33 -0800 From: "Daniel Howard" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <35f70db10811062251v7df8c7d2y69112e1768dc0cf4@mail.gmail.com> <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:07:56 -0000 On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 08:51:06AM +0200, Ross Cameron wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:34 AM, FBSD1 wrote: >> >> > Top posting is how Microsoft outlook works. Nothing I can do about >> > it. >> > sorry >> >> Ditch Outlook and use Evolution or Thunderbird or KMail or > > . . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll to > the end before typing. It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook. Press the END key. -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 01:19:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82701065674 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from fmailhost05.isp.att.net (fmailhost05.isp.att.net [204.127.217.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AB68FC1C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (adsl-1-209-225.bna.bellsouth.net[65.1.209.225]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc05) with ESMTP id <20081108010840H0500ccm6ee>; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:08:41 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [65.1.209.225] Message-ID: <4914E67A.40409@datapipe.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:08:10 -0600 From: "Paul A. Procacci" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Watt References: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> In-Reply-To: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:19:44 -0000 Steve Watt wrote: > ( Please cc: me on replies, as I can't keep up with traffic on -questions ) > > I did the following: > > % cd /tmp > % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur > % ls -ld */dir1/new > drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ > % > > System is: > FreeBSD wattres.Watt.COM 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #9: Tue May 13 16:06:34 PDT 2008 root@wattres.Watt.COM:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATTRES i386 > > Source was probably updated a few hours before the kernel build time. > > Shell doesn't seem to matter (have tried both tcsh and bash). > > My cygwin installation seems to get it right. > > Known issue? A quick glance for "glob" in gnats didn't show anything promising. > I too can't reproduce this on any of my machines: nat# mkdir -p {a,b,c}/dir/{cur,new} nat# ls -ld */dir/* drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 7 19:07 a/dir/cur drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 7 19:07 a/dir/new drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 7 19:07 b/dir/cur drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 7 19:07 b/dir/new drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 7 19:07 c/dir/cur drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 7 19:07 c/dir/new Awefully strange indeed. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 01:20:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28EE31065690 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A228FC20 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA81KYFM020869; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:20:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:20:10 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: FreeBSD Mailing List Message-ID: <20081108012007.GA62941@thought.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_SECURITYSAGE autolearn=no version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Subject: new idea: requiring php and java; maybe other ports... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:20:15 -0000 Yesterday while I was trying to read a newspaper article online using firefox yet-another idea struck me. This may/may not work with FreeBSD ... or is might be crafted for FBSD 1st and later ported to every other operating system. To avoid flames, I'll just mention this. Any interested hackers, please write me offlist. gary -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 01:57:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A20106567B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:57:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E94F8FC18 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D448B9BEF6; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8AACD164CE0; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:57:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4914F214.40507@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:57:40 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eitan Adler References: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> <4914A389.3070404@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4914A389.3070404@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Confused About Linux Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:57:48 -0000 Eitan Adler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Drew Tomlinson wrote: > > >> Bottom line, what linux_base port should I install and do I need to set >> this sysctl to something? I'm confused... >> > If you have a recent 7-STABLE changing the linux kernel version to > 2.6.16 and running -f8 should not be a problem. If your running 6-* > or 7-RELEASE stick with linux base fc4. > Thank you for your reply. I am running 7.1-PRERELEASE. I plan to update to 7.1-RELEASE as soon as I can get to the console, probably within the next month or so. Is 7.1-PRERELEASE recent enough for -f8? It was built Oct. 9th. Is there any big advantage of -f8 over -fc4? I guess I just *feel* like -f8 would be more "updated" and less hassle in the long run. However I know that with software, newer isn't always better. :) Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 01:59:33 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647ED1065674 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:59:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from smtpauth.surewest.net (smtpauth.surewest.net [66.60.130.153]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CFE8FC22 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:59:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from drew@mykitchentable.net) Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (unknown [69.62.230.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtpauth.surewest.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07F89BF2C; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (bigdaddy.mykitchentable.net [192.168.1.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB211164CE0; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 17:59:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4914F27D.5040201@mykitchentable.net> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:59:25 -0800 From: Drew Tomlinson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Samorodov References: <491479A2.20406@mykitchentable.net> <46837793@bs1.sp34.ru> In-Reply-To: <46837793@bs1.sp34.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Confused About Linux Compatibility X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:59:33 -0000 Boris Samorodov wrote: > Drew Tomlinson writes: > > >> I am attempting to install a Linux RPM of Legato's Networker Backup >> Client on FBSD 7.1 I do not know if this is possible but I hope so. >> :) >> >> I have followed instructions in the Handbook and >> http://www.linux.com/articles/53055. I am at the point of installing >> an appropriate linux_base port and linux_base-f8 seemed like the most >> recent/reasonable. However when I attempt to install, I get this >> output: >> >> ** Port marked as IGNORE: emulators/linux_base-f8: >> compat.linux.osrelease: 2.4.2 is not supported >> ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) >> - emulators/linux_base-f8 >> >> Further Google searches suggest that compat.linux.osrelease is a >> sysctl setting. I've seen reference to setting it to 2.6.16 but also >> that this is experimental. I found >> http://wiki.freebsd.org/linux-kernel but this leaves me confused as >> well. >> >> Bottom line, what linux_base port should I install and do I need to >> set this sysctl to something? I'm confused... >> > > Current default (i.e. well tested and supported) linux base port is > linux_base-fc4 with compat.linux.osrelease=2.4.2. This should be your > first try. If you get any further questions a better mailing list (to > look for additional information as well as asking questions) is > freebsd-emulation@. Thanks for your reply and the suggestion of freebsd-emulation@. Cheers, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 02:37:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DF11065695 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 02:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F508FC33 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 02:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.185] (unknown [192.168.0.185]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5E406C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:37:43 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:37:58 +1000 Message-Id: <1226111879.1220.9.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Messenger servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:37:22 -0000 I haven't checked the list for around a week- I'm still catching up! :) I'm trying to sort out a messenger server for work purposes, and although I've found a few I'm hoping some input from sysadmins who have deployed these might help our decision. I've found Gale, Jabberd2, OpenFire, and SJECS (Sun Java Communication Suite). Our requirements are for collaboration (multiple users simultaneous chatting together- with audio/video if possible), realtime audio/video (with a preference for audio; ergo video can go to the dogs to maintain audio quality, although a means to adjust this- on the fly if possible- would be useful), and chat. Tall order, eh? Ease of admin would be good, but my main concern is stability and reliability (I'll make up a software solution to administrate if needs be). Thanks guys. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 02:52:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FB1106564A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 02:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25518FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 02:52:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.185] (unknown [192.168.0.185]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF3F406C; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:52:58 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: pathfinder07@embarqmail.com In-Reply-To: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> References: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:53:14 +1000 Message-Id: <1226112794.1220.20.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:52:37 -0000 On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 19:45 -0500, SAM HAYNES wrote: > Greetings, O Learned Ones > from: Sam Haynes, Pathfinders 2008 > > I haven't the foggiest as to how you came to be in my favorites list, > other than that I probably tagged you in an ongoing search for both or > either something to replace Win XP and or build my own personal server. > > I have been usining XP for several years now. Recently, I tried to > install XP from my OEM cd and was notified by Gates and Company that XP > would no longer be supported. Bummer! So what else is new? Time to part > company with Bill? Vista was tha final straw. > > I need something that will replace XP in all the essentials but without > a useless bag full of coverups for poor performance.. > > Debian was the first encouraging encounter. It was recommended as a > cheap entry into the personal server concept, using a two to three year > old PC chassis. Sounded good but I could never figure out just how to > download it. > > So, FreeBSD appears in my fave list and server appears in the same > paragraph as operating system. Here is my plan. > > I am 76, a retired Master Electrician, PC builder since '87, have a wife > of 40 plus years, debilitating medical problems and a strong belief that > I can milk a living out of internet affiliate marketing despite the > current economic crisis. > > My current model is to generate a basic website, use my existing isp to > promote two consistent converting products, bootstrap the proceeds from > that into building my own dedicated server to market 'how-to' products > over a hundred or more websites. > > All using ready to serve apps and a WYSIWYG HTML generator. > > I appreciate your time reading this over long monologue... I'd > appreciate it even more if you could take some time to throw some > suggestions back at me.. > > Thanks, > > Sam I Am, PATHFINDERS 2008 Perhaps you should try the linux distros first to get a bit of a feel of *nix variants? FreeBSD can be daunting to the first time user, but is one hell of a production system once you know how to handle it properly. Maybe start with Ubuntu rather than Debian straight off (I never quite worked out how to download Debian either... wierd bunch that :) ), it is a bit like a half way house for new users, and helps out with some of the usual administrative tasks. Fedora is another good one, but the support is better with ubuntu, plus the Ubuntu is more forgiving admin wise. In any case I'd say you'll be in for a steep learning curve, but at least the gradient is not as sharp when you start with Ubuntu. Keep watching this list, it'll answer any questions you have (no matter how silly they may seem to experienced users, and without most of the condescension you'll find on a lot of lists- Ubuntu support is similar to this list), and read the handbook, and eventually you'll be able to tame one of the most powerful operating systems in the computing world and put it to work for you. Some servers have been going for months and even years without stopping (depending on security required and experience of the admin), so it is rock solid. Good luck! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 03:30:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB85C1065673 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 03:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B438FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 03:30:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stupendoussteve@hotmail.com) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.46.10.139]) by bay0-omc2-s34.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:30:20 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:30:20 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 68.225.143.90 by BAY122-DAV1.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:30:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [68.225.143.90] X-Originating-Email: [stupendoussteve@hotmail.com] X-Sender: stupendoussteve@hotmail.com Message-ID: <491507C6.7040509@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:30:14 -0600 From: Steven Susbauer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081106) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <1226111879.1220.9.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1226111879.1220.9.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC3469F650E872800A2AC95A1" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2008 03:30:20.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[53A6BDD0:01C94152] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Messenger servers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:30:20 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC3469F650E872800A2AC95A1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020801080700000003080407" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020801080700000003080407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Da Rock wrote: > I haven't checked the list for around a week- I'm still catching up! :)= >=20 > I'm trying to sort out a messenger server for work purposes, and > although I've found a few I'm hoping some input from sysadmins who have= > deployed these might help our decision. I've found Gale, Jabberd2, > OpenFire, and SJECS (Sun Java Communication Suite). >=20 > Our requirements are for collaboration (multiple users simultaneous > chatting together- with audio/video if possible), realtime audio/video > (with a preference for audio; ergo video can go to the dogs to maintain= > audio quality, although a means to adjust this- on the fly if possible-= > would be useful), and chat. >=20 > Tall order, eh? Ease of admin would be good, but my main concern is > stability and reliability (I'll make up a software solution to > administrate if needs be). >=20 > Thanks guys. >=20 I would avoid OpenFire, some pretty gnarly vulnerabilities were announced today, and the vendor doesn't seem to be in a hurry to fix them= =2E http://www.andreas-kurtz.de/advisories/AKADV2008-001-v1.0.txt Good luck! -Steve --------------020801080700000003080407 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="signature.asc" LS0tLS1CRUdJTiBQR1AgU0lHTkFUVVJFLS0tLS0KVmVyc2lvbjogR251UEcgdjIuMC45IChH TlUvTGludXgpCkNvbW1lbnQ6IFVzaW5nIEdudVBHIHdpdGggTW96aWxsYSAtIGh0dHA6Ly9l bmlnbWFpbC5tb3pkZXYub3JnCgppRVlFQVJFQ0FBWUZBa2tWQjJRQUNna1EyaTNZWXpiRHQw K0x0d0NmVTQrTEx5SjJSRGN1VG53YnVYQjZQUlhnClJEb0FvTXpLUlp2TzkwOXNiTk9IWHJo Z0djLzVRTm5sCj04ODE2Ci0tLS0tRU5EIFBHUCBTSUdOQVRVUkUtLS0tLQoK --------------020801080700000003080407-- --------------enigC3469F650E872800A2AC95A1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkVB8YACgkQ2i3YYzbDt09kzwCfVMMfX2ram+OZe0XtpMkskd6f /5MAmQHtGtTXRkW4Y83sjYkSBQwzUxyF =J/PP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC3469F650E872800A2AC95A1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 03:48:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5C21065676 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 03:48:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88B498FC19 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 03:48:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 5730 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2008 03:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.187.12) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 8 Nov 2008 03:21:59 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5F8A91706A; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:21:58 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:21:58 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: Steve Watt Message-ID: <20081108032158.GB70575@ozzmosis.com> References: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:48:43 -0000 On Fri 2008-11-07 15:13:03 UTC-0800, Steve Watt (steve@Watt.COM) wrote: > % mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur > % mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur > % ls -ld */dir1/new > drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ What file system are you using? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 02:38:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46AFB1065677 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 02:38:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from servco50@yahoo.com) Received: from web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.108]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C715F8FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 02:38:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from servco50@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70737 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2008 02:11:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XoGshYsxUi8y0PhJ6ISC0U1y6mxRFdY032z4N8HPg6ntg+zLR4B0iIZAdjSyYYs+iynaJsz7UpTzKerElI2/c/GjPRMGPgijUAkGZ6zheNzY/a27DnRUAdEPAraBUYl7JU3/lbs3h5zTme94UreY9aZZPq0DFUp/yGtw3ZfzUXk=; X-YMail-OSG: DyC8YGgVM1mmekSb1kHEBNIcL16VIchKyJVjYpGknBpmbg1oBVRw09QMYMyBCGGikqEjzmth12YJSGd2BeVlbvqyutWKmZ91KRjRcIIU_xyAyXeqBD1K5PmJgFr.WqeXRPUSglLeVup_eRZ7YCavYOatZAPJeXZ25FGHiE8v Received: from [64.60.33.244] by web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:11:56 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:11:56 -0800 (PST) From: S C To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <117.70694.qm@web57004.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:52:51 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: install on Dell SMT-116B X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:38:38 -0000 I'm trying to install 7.0-RELEASE from cd on a Dell SMT-116B, but it is hanging on GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/FreeBSD_INSTALL. Is this computer just incompatible with FreeBSD, or is there something I can do to get it working? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 07:25:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B051065670 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 07:25:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bipolor@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498F38FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 07:25:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bipolor@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so1474642rvf.43 for ; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:25:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=fmuNJM5pvF6NaO3vP6v/jRb37UhMtbM2YhwHBD/UxOA=; b=EVbm+ZtdVMwhl8jVccKWgqbqKn+R3R6ws2LN7PE+thJxtxN6RsU3va72teDAbVBMv2 +33MY1ReaNcGffCvwIFm+/YS39skP8Fzft45Wbq201/UiHCFxQ0qlfRTKajTO1kNw9u5 RHQFr0cxPG1YoZMkom5UhdSVqam+fBbComfDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tJ9BpNSw4NpsMlCPp6HnWU24+3CNlPnWg0up/xq+90voufRr33YjWU43LbFcsckKvF rjkN4bYrwVEtcBr0B74bDfaxrAC6lgIDGxbkEuWWtWMvWOeLMdBGa1RFgO+nf5AqbCrY QTCZdhJZY9nfAw8tVnnxONF93/9caLB/BTM6o= Received: by 10.142.70.16 with SMTP id s16mr1295032wfa.151.1226127128804; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:52:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.169.11 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:52:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 22:52:08 -0800 From: "Mike Price" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:25:21 -0000 Hello guys, Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. Thanks, DEK From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 08:12:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4E21065672 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32EC48FC16 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:12:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA88CXFF005118; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:12:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D5B83BA9B; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:12:29 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:12:29 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Mike Price Message-ID: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:12:38 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: > Hello guys, >=20 > Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? > I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkVSe0ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWCOgCfT2j55obV5/5JBzrHZQVleRtC 7JIAn1vrhfSSQJBhHoyUi+aa8U7DgvA/ =5lFt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 08:33:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74677106567A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:33:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1F48FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA88XcD8042720; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:33:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA88Xas8042717; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:33:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:33:36 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Roland Smith In-Reply-To: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Mike Price , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:33:46 -0000 > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: >> Hello guys, >> >> Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? >> I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. > > You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating > vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports. > i have a friend that do offset printing. he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't support editing CMYK images From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 09:22:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC1E1065673 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209DE8FC0A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.185] (unknown [192.168.0.185]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C874057 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:23:18 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:23:35 +1000 Message-Id: <1226136215.1220.27.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:22:56 -0000 On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 09:33 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: > >> Hello guys, > >> > >> Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? > >> I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. > > > > You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating > > vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports. > > > i have a friend that do offset printing. > > he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't > support editing CMYK images Actually it does have limited support. I do printing myself, and I refuse to use M$ crap. To be able to do the job I use Gimp for some editing (making sure to use the CMYK ICC) and it will save in a RGB format. I then use scribus with the same ICC to save in CMYK and final layout. It works very well in fact. Consider Gimp like Photoshop and Scribus like Illustrator. For help and tips try meet the gimp, he offers an podcast in tips and tricks in Gimp (and sometimes compares them to Photoshop methods). Good luck :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 09:27:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF941065676 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB908FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr8.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA89QrL6041898; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:26:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3F219BA9B; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:26:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:26:53 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20081108092653.GA4438@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Mike Price , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:27:00 -0000 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:33:36AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: > >> Hello guys, > >> > >> Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? > >> I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. > > > > You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating > > vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports. > > > i have a friend that do offset printing. >=20 > he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't= =20 > support editing CMYK images Nobody has ever said that the gimp was suitable for all purposes. But it seems that most users of gimp (and photoshop) don't need it. Most of the gimp users seem to use it for editing photos or making web graphics, where RGB is fine. Adding and testing CMYK capabilities is both time-consuming and costly because you need access to pre-press equipment to do meaningfull testing, see: http://rants.scribus.net/2006/06/03/why-no-cmyk-in-gimp-is-a-good-thing-now/ However, there is a gimp plug-in for exporting CMYK images:=20 http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate.html Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkVW10ACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVJFACeLlm3/Ygaj6YVWX8LjlprnvJc tpgAnA9BuR01bnPKOyIoV8Q/HcZnptT1 =nS1h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 09:56:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385F7106567C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C57D08FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:56:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 24846 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2008 09:56:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=jBYQEYn4CqHmmtHv96taKi1KDAMizHzHPLShC4nupFAGhqLtT9tAZ+O+YOzkwe85dzBk928PV9tK32to5CO+SBYjjh6bFVn2VlQKLBFt0Hs+t/GZqWJnCL1nOzHL4rL38KJUENmSxl4x9D8bZoQKsV+FmIS8FHcmgtlgPkOHJxY=; X-YMail-OSG: lFmp_mUVM1nX.5.y6hVGUuvdZHTIjRk99CcfeAvKLgc3FzIR7o5hH8pIIH60MPpyCsKVRuv5rDHCHXVOVAwoo6ZMPl.twf3hacT3LZ1Qr8KjQKxdnHJBW3le8ODxDirVho3YUUqGk24tLIZtk04irWGZb_ohdNf8DjDpk9fd1XnmTh4EZVERAXmCZaya53jpFS5mrlKyK7OIY8A- Received: from [220.255.7.132] by web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:56:40 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 01:56:40 -0800 (PST) From: Unga To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <181618.24843.qm@web57006.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Subject: No pam_module.so found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:56:42 -0000 Hi all I have built FreeBSD 7.0 with openpam (ver. 20071221) on (i386). Now I cannot login through the console, it gives following error message: login: in openpam_load_module(): no pam_self.so found login: pam_start(): system error But I can login remotely using ssh. In both cases I tried only root account. After ssh into the system, when I try to login as another user, it gives following error on the console: su -l test su: in openpam_load_module(): no pam_rootok.so found su: pam_start: system error All my pam modules reside in /usr/lib/ and the version number of pam modules match the version number of the libpam (/usr/lib/libpam.so.2). Eg. pam_self.so.2 and pam_rootok.so.2 are available in /usr/lib/. My first question is, is suffix 2 in this case, the Module Version number? Second question, what do you guys think, why pam cannot find pam modules? Kind regards Unga From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 10:42:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0A5106567C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 746798FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:42:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KylGj-0002Gx-3O for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net ([141.156.174.77]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:42:17 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:42:17 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:36:55 -0500 Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <49138F93.3040300@embarqmail.com> <20081107234914.GC5725@kokopelli.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-141-156-174-77.esr.east.verizon.net Sender: news Subject: Re: (no subject) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:42:22 -0000 Chad Perrin wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 06:28:07AM -0500, Michael Powell wrote: >> >> If you are totally new to Linux/Unix and have zero experience and just >> want an easy, out of the box "something other" than XP you might try the >> latest incarnation of Kubuntu. I know in a FreeBSD list these comments >> are sacrilege, but the broader picture is what your needs truly are. I take that back - I just examined the latest Kubuntu. It is the simplest to install of just about anything I've seen, but once installed is just so excruciatingly annoying! Ease of install doesn't make up for the short sightedness of Canonical. > I'd suggest PC-BSD instead, and not only because it's a FreeBSD spin-off. > It also provides PBI for software management, which will surely provide a > gentler transition for people used to the Microsoft way of installing > software, and doesn't make a lot of the design mistakes I see in Ubuntu > and its spin-offs. > > DesktopBSD is a pretty good choice along those lines, too. Still better > than Ubuntu, in my opinion. > > Furthermore . . . they both use KDE by default, and you don't have to use > a red-headed stepchild or second-hand citizen like Kubuntu to get it. > Yes, I like this suggestion better - I've just never used either one but rather just built KDE out from ports. I just took some brief looks at Kubuntu 8.10 in a VirtualBox VM and it still annoys me no end. I had used it some time in the past and needed reminding why I quit. Fedora 9 looks a trifle better, and the openSUSE 11.1 Beta is a train wreck. So my desktop will probably stay openSUSE 10.3 as this allows me to get work done. If none of the "newer, improved and advanced" Linuxes get their act together soon I will probably be returning to KDE on FreeBSD in the not very distant future. I just can't spend all my time screwing around with b***cr**. >> >> Now running a real live "Web" presence out of your house is probably not >> really a good idea if it has anything to do with business. A personal >> blog can go down for indefinite periods and no harm done, but a business >> site is a different story. First, the reason for having your servers >> located in a data center is they are sitting directly on the "fat pipes" >> of the Internet. Second, these data centers are "multi homed" in their >> peerage to other backbones. If one connection path develops a problem >> your site is still going to be accessible via one of the other paths. You >> simply will never have the kind of connectivity found in a real data >> center at home. > > Make sure the colocation facility of your choice is multi-homed before > simply assuming it is. Some aren't. > I wouldn't want one with less than 3 peerages, and I'm in favor of full mesh arrangements. But at this stage of the game I think the OP is better served by learning how it all works before he starts co-locating or leasing dedicated boxen. Baby steps first, so to speak. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 10:56:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA6C1065672 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:56:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694C58FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA89xffF076770 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:59:42 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:12:46 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <49143663.9070804@shopzeus.com> <20081107201954.5d7e4993.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20081107201954.5d7e4993.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?iso-8859-1?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=3B=7E!42HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?iso-8859-1?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.399 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: eps to jpg conversion - which program? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:56:36 -0000 On Friday 07 November 2008 21:19, Polytropon wrote: > On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:36:51 +0100, Laszlo Nagy wrote: > A batch solution is simple: > > #!/bin/sh > for f in *eps; do > convert ${f} `basename ${f} .eps`.jpg > done You can also save yourself repeated calls to basename by using for f in *eps; do convert ${f%.eps}.jpg done Look under parameter expansion in the manpage for sh(1) (or bash(1) if you have bash installed). As far as I can tell csh/tcsh doesn't support this useful feature. Essentially, a Bourne-type shell with parameter expansion expands ${variable#prefix} or ${variable%suffix} to $variable with the prefix or suffix, respectively, removed. Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 11:05:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6871065670 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (202-172-126-254.cpe.qld-1.comcen.com.au [202.172.126.254]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1A78FC1E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.185] (unknown [192.168.0.185]) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26C24057 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:06:01 +1000 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20081108092653.GA4438@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081108092653.GA4438@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:06:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1226142379.1220.32.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-5.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:05:39 -0000 On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 10:26 +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 09:33:36AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:52:08PM -0800, Mike Price wrote: > > >> Hello guys, > > >> > > >> Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? > > >> I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. > > > > > > You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating > > > vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports. > > > > > i have a friend that do offset printing. > > > > he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp doesn't > > support editing CMYK images > > Nobody has ever said that the gimp was suitable for all purposes. But it > seems that most users of gimp (and photoshop) don't need it. > > Most of the gimp users seem to use it for editing photos or making web > graphics, where RGB is fine. Adding and testing CMYK capabilities > is both time-consuming and costly because you need access to pre-press > equipment to do meaningfull testing, see: > http://rants.scribus.net/2006/06/03/why-no-cmyk-in-gimp-is-a-good-thing-now/ > > However, there is a gimp plug-in for exporting CMYK images: > http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate.html Actually I've checked that out and it isn't much chop unless you specifically want to create colour sep plates. Gimp can handle CMYK palettes because they're a subset of the RGB palette. Just use the right ICC, import into scribus, and save as a pdf (or whatever). From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 11:56:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3DD61065673 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A2138FC13 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:56:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 65084 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2008 11:56:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=kAvo0vdM8kJq2bz0AOQSJHGYSLtcgzu9IjLSLxdjXOFVhbFCWZAcq1x4Qx6VLctO7HOvVhK6wxspW4hAvbcgLRJJ8Heu6+dEMg5DK42XZpynSo6fA5p0wUXS0kxyFe30OLIeC7qbNlLTY0kBD8lMLtcbVhFLbHTpgrbc8H6KMW8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp105.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2008 11:56:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6Tmqs.QVM1kBZrN966Oy8jvoaJjI0ZbdXhTdQqiYyqQYnbD061GFI2yjDPolAGm38E_FVlJwMJO1befIl.H1Ov4iEiOwQne6cBrtDAXGJOfi40NvsuErUVID5brm0NTskz4cyFU04Rdg8mnu4FZXMco6PDRAFDbPyLI1daJbTMmn4nGOu7UK6YKRfg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 06:55:58 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081108065558.060024b3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <35f70db10811062251v7df8c7d2y69112e1768dc0cf4@mail.gmail.com> <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/Qwl8Lt5qBnWwGupnJaeq+tK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:26:50 +0000 Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:56:13 -0000 --Sig_/Qwl8Lt5qBnWwGupnJaeq+tK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700 Chad Perrin wrote: >. . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll >to the end before typing. It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook. works like a charm also. It is amazing what people will bitch at. The same people who will spend days attempting to get a video card fully functional will find placing the cursor at the end of an email message too daunting of a task. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Sex discriminates against the shy and ugly. --Sig_/Qwl8Lt5qBnWwGupnJaeq+tK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkVfloACgkQBvaKIJWWCO27FgCeJ92bmO2lYayk6nTBiQQ/tyUw m3UAn0VBIjcUVAI3g1x1NAXVmm9+9ju3 =WGeZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Qwl8Lt5qBnWwGupnJaeq+tK-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 13:22:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13FE61065673 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from hermes.hst.org.za (onix.hst.org.za [209.203.2.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3748FC18 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:22:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) Received: from [10.1.11.1] ([10.1.11.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by hermes.hst.org.za (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id mA8DC5GG080850 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:12:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za) From: Jonathan McKeown To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:25:12 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> <20081108065558.060024b3@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081108065558.060024b3@scorpio> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?iso-8859-15?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l?= =?iso-8859-15?q?=3B=7E!42HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?iso-8859-15?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Spam-Score: -4.399 () ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.61 on 209.203.2.133 Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:22:23 -0000 On Saturday 08 November 2008 13:55, Jerry wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 16:28:00 -0700 > > Chad Perrin wrote: > >. . . or, as someone else pointed out, one could just learn to scroll > >to the end before typing. It's not that difficult -- even in Outlook. > > works like a charm also. It is amazing what people will > bitch at. The same people who will spend days attempting to get a video > card fully functional will find placing the cursor at the end of an > email message too daunting of a task. The best response to the issue of Outlook and top-posting I've seen recently was on the London Perlmongers mailing list - although I should warn that some may find this offensive. ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... "The last I checked, cursor keys worked in Outlook just fine without any third-party hacks, so there is no reason for top-posting just because the cursor happens to be there. It's a bit like crapping in your pants because that's where your arse happens to be." -- Peter Corlett, london.pm Jonathan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 14:56:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD43106568E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:56:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: from mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE438FC0C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:56:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions-local@be-well.ilk.org) Received: (qmail 6912 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2008 14:56:30 -0000 Received: from dsl092-078-145.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO be-well.ilk.org) ([66.92.78.145]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Nov 2008 14:56:30 -0000 Received: from lowell-desk.lan (lowell-desk.lan [172.30.250.6]) by be-well.ilk.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14D35083C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by lowell-desk.lan (Postfix, from userid 1147) id 734091CE3C; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 09:56:25 -0500 (EST) To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <200811061813.45150.jmc-freebsd2@milibyte.co.uk> <1226067445.1360.11.camel@main.lerwick.hopto.org> <20081107220233.62215f62@anthesphoria.net> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:56:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20081107220233.62215f62@anthesphoria.net> ("Nikola =?utf-8?B?TGXEjWnEhyIncw==?= message of "Fri\, 7 Nov 2008 22\:02\:33 +0100") Message-ID: <44r65mfequ.fsf@lowell-desk.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Openoffice 3.0.0 - spellchecker not functioning X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:56:31 -0000 Nikola Le=C4=8Di=C4=87 writes: > The OpenOffice.org dictionaries page says: > > IMPORTANT NOTE: From OpenOffice.org 3.0 on the dictionary wizard > is not longer available -- Dictionaries are now available via > the extensions repository. > > [http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries] > > So, the OpenOffice.org-3 users are supposed to download .oxt files and > run them. However, I experienced the 'bad transfer url' problem with all > extension files; this was reported on FreeBSD mailing lists in the past > with no available solution. > > Happily, the instruction from the same page (DictOOo-Wizard, intended > for OpenOffice.org-2) worked just fine in my OpenOffice-3. I downloaded > > http://ftp.services.openoffice.org/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/dictionar= ies/dicooo/DicOOo.sxw > > and it worked like a charm, installing Hunspell Spellchecker module and > dictionary files. I had the same experience. Note that to install the dictionaries for all users, I needed write access to=20 /usr/local/openoffice.org-3.0.0/openoffice.org/basis3.0/share/dict/ooo and to some of the files inside of it. --=20 Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 13:38:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461B8106568A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:38:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.bena@yahoo.fr) Received: from web25604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 849318FC14 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from d.bena@yahoo.fr) Received: (qmail 57555 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Nov 2008 13:11:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; 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X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:38:41 -0000 Hi,=0A=0AWe have just install our FreeBSD and we try naturally to update ou= r system.=0A$ uname -a=0AFreeBSD pinky.e-cac.fr 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD=0A7.= 0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 =0Aroot@i386-builder.daemo= nology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386=0A=0ABut each time we compile= softs, ports or world, we have errors with the headers not found or wrong = headers like that :=0A" /usr/include/sys/param.h:63:23: error: sys/types.h:= No such file or directory "=0A" /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/f= ile.h:50:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory "=0A" chkproc.c:= 61:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory "=0A" /usr/src/sys/sys= /types.h:169: error: two or more data types in declaration specifiers "=0A"= /usr/src/sys/sys/types.h:169: warning: useless type name in empty declarat= ion "=0A=0AWe think : "Hmmm ... il seems that includes are wrong ... try to= add some includes folders"=0ASo we precise the CFLAGS : CFLAGS=3D'-I/usr/s= rc/sys -I/usr/include -I/sys'=0AUnfortunately, we have always some errors i= n the compilation...=0A=0AExample :=0A# make buildworld=0A[...]=0A/usr/src/= lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/file.h:336: error: expected '=3D', ',', ';'= , 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'sread'=0AIn file included from /usr/src/= lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/apprentice.c:37:=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:51= 0: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'vm_offset_t'=0A/= usr/include/unistd.h:528: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' b= efore 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:528: error: expected declaration spe= cifiers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:528: error: expect= ed declaration specifiers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:= 546: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'u_long'=0A/usr= /include/unistd.h:546: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' befo= re 'u_long'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:550: error: expected ')' before '...' t= oken=0AIn file included from /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/funcs= .c:27:=0A/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/file.h:50:23: error: sys/= types.h: No such file or directory=0AIn file included from /usr/src/lib/lib= magic/../../contrib/file/funcs.c:27:=0A/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/= file/file.h:336: error: expected '=3D', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' = before 'sread'=0AIn file included from /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/= file/magic.c:28:=0A/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/file.h:50:23: e= rror: sys/types.h: No such file or directory=0AIn file included from /usr/s= rc/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/magic.c:28:=0A/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../.= ./contrib/file/file.h:336: error: expected '=3D', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__att= ribute__' before 'sread'=0AIn file included from /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../.= ./contrib/file/magic.c:33:=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:510: error: expected dec= laration specifiers or '...' before 'vm_offset_t'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:5= 28: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/usr/= include/unistd.h:528: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' befor= e 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:528: error: expected declaration specifi= ers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:546: error: expected d= eclaration specifiers or '...' before 'u_long'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:546:= error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'u_long'=0A/usr/inc= lude/unistd.h:550: error: expected ')' before '...' token=0AIn file include= d from /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/print.c:32:=0A/usr/src/lib/= libmagic/../../contrib/file/file.h:50:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file = or directory=0AIn file included from /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/fi= le/print.c:32:=0A/usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/file.h:336: error= : expected '=3D', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before 'sread'=0AIn fi= le included from /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/print.c:39:=0A/us= r/include/unistd.h:510: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' bef= ore 'vm_offset_t'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:528: error: expected declaration = specifiers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:528: error: exp= ected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/usr/include/unistd= .h:528: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before 'fd_set'=0A/= usr/include/unistd.h:546: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' b= efore 'u_long'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:546: error: expected declaration spe= cifiers or '...' before 'u_long'=0A/usr/include/unistd.h:550: error: expect= ed ')' before '...' token=0A*** Error code 1=0A=0A=0AWe don't understand wh= y it lacks some headers files like /usr/include/sys/types.h ?=0AAnd google,= our best friend, doesn't want to explain us...=0A=0AIf you need more infor= mation, tell us, we'll be glad to answer.=0A=0A--=0AThree poor french guys,= very happy to discover FreeBSD but little disturb...=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 16:15:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704781065673 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3EC8FC14 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ansarm@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so870650ele.13 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 08:15:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date 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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:15:22 -0500 Message-ID: <0c3801c941bd$343b0f80$9cb12e80$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AclBvTL1TSvo/e6eSfi2ZfQX45I+qA== Content-Language: en-ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: automatic creation of home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:15:26 -0000 Hello all, I have users logging in via Kerberos (authn) and LDAP (authz) on FreeBSD to Active Directory. I don't like having to manually create their home directory. Is there some way to have the login process automatically create the home directory on login? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 16:51:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF62106567A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3P=3090643a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from fallback-in1.mxes.net (fallback-out1.mxes.net [216.86.168.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C06238FC1A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:51:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd06+3P=3090643a@mlists.homeunix.com) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) by fallback-in1.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7323164883 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (unknown [87.81.140.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24307D051E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:40:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:40:13 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081108164013.5d74790d@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <200811081525.12583.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> <20081108065558.060024b3@scorpio> <200811081525.12583.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:51:43 -0000 On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 15:25:12 +0200 Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Saturday 08 November 2008 13:55, Jerry wrote: > > The best response to the issue of Outlook and top-posting I've seen > recently was on the London Perlmongers mailing list > ... > "The last I checked, cursor keys worked in Outlook just fine without > any third-party hacks, so there is no reason for top-posting just > because the cursor happens to be there. Some people argue that the cursor should start-off at the top because you should start by removing superfluous quoted text before bottom posting. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 17:02:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51F61065670; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:02:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5868FC13; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:02:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA8H2HLP090770; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 04:02:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 04:02:17 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jeremy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <20081105101625.GA6494@icarus.home.lan> Message-ID: <20081109012957.R70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20081105170631.O70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081105072752.GA4079@icarus.home.lan> <20081105194002.N70117@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20081105101625.GA6494@icarus.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: [SOLVED] Apache environment variables - logical AND X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:02:20 -0000 On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 08:24:16PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:33:45PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: > > > > I know this isn't FreeBSD specific - but I am, so crave your indulgence. > > > > > > > > Running Apache 1.3.27, using a fairly extensive access.conf to beat off > > > > the most rapacious robots and such, using mostly BrowserMatch[NoCase] > > > > and SetEnvIf to moderate access to several virtual hosts. No problem. > > > > > > > > OR conditions are of course straighforward: > > > > > > > > SetEnvIf somevar > > > > SetEnvIf somevar > > > > SetEnvIf !somevar > > > > > > > > What I can't figure out is how to set a variable3 if and only if both > > > > variable1 AND variable2 are set. Eg: > > > > > > > > SetEnvIf Referer "^$" no_referer > > > > SetEnvIf User-Agent "^$" no_browser > > > > > > > > I want the equivalent for this (invalid and totally fanciful) match: > > > > > > > > SetEnvIf (no_browser AND no_referer) go_away > > > > > > Sounds like a job for mod_rewrite. The SetEnvIf stuff is such a hack. That's true. Thanks for your considered and helpful tutorial. I do use ipfw+dummynet for bandwidth limiting, and ipfw table 80 to house bogons. But I finally figured out how to make such a hack work .. it just kept on bugging me until I woke up remembering some very basic logic; quite embarrassing really .. # 9/11/8: preset env vars to be tested by value SetEnvIf Referer ".*" no_ref=0 no_bro=0 both=1 SetEnvIf Referer "^$" no_ref=1 SetEnvIf User-Agent "^$" no_bro=1 # duh, logic 101: a AND b = NOT ( (NOT a) OR (NOT b) ) SetEnvIf no_ref 0 both=0 SetEnvIf no_bro 0 both=0 SetEnvIf both 1 go_away It's a bit round about and awkward but seems to work fine, and this was just one example of several combination conditions I'd like to test. cheers, Ian > > It may be a hack, but I've found it an extremely useful one so far. > > > > > This is what we use on our production servers (snipped to keep it > > > short): > > > > > > RewriteEngine on > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^XXXX: [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.somethingawful.com/ [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://forums.fark.com/ [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Alexibot [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^asterias [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^BackDoorBot [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Black.Hole [NC,OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^WWWOFFLE [OR] > > > RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} ^Xaldon.WebSpider > > > RewriteRule ^.* - [F,L] > > > > > > You need to keep something in mind however: blocking by user agent is > > > basically worthless these days. Most "leeching" tools now let you > > > spoof the user agent to show up as Internet Explorer, essentially > > > defeating the checks. > > > > While that's true, I've found most of the more troublesome robots are > > too proud of their 'brand' to spoof user agent, and those that do are a) > > often consistent enough in their Remote_Addr to exclude by subnet and/or > > b) often make obvious errors in spoofed User_Agent strings .. especially > > those pretending to be some variant of MSIE :) > > I haven't found this to be true at all, and I've been doing web hosting > since 1993. In the past 2-3 years, the amount of leeching tools which > spoof their User-Agent has increased dramatically. > > But step back for a moment and look at it from a usability perspective, > because this is what really happens. > > A user tries to leech a site you host, using FruitBatLeecher, which your > Apache server blocks based on User-Agent. The user has no idea why the > leech program doesn't work. Does the user simply give up his quest? > Absolutely not -- the user then goes and finds BobsBandwidthZilla which > pretends to be Internet Explorer, Firefox, or lynx, and downloads the > site. > > Now, if you're trying to block robots/scrapers which aren't honouring > robots.txt, oh yes, that almost always works, because those rarely spoof > their User-Agent (I think to date I've only seen one site which did > that, and it was some Russian search engine). > > If you feel I'm just doing burn-outs arguing, a la "BSD style", let me > give you some insight to how often I deal with this problem: daily. > > We host a very specific/niche site that contains over 20 years of > technical information on the Famicom / Nintendo Entertainment System. > The site has hundreds of megabytes of information, and a very active > forum. Some jackass comes along and decides "Wow, this has all the info > I want!" and fires off a leeching program against the entire > domain/vhost. Let's say the program he's using is blocked by our > User-Agent blocks; there is a 6-7 minute delay as the user goes off to > find another program to leech with, installs it, and attempts it again. > Pow, it works, and we find nice huge spikes in our logs for the vhost > indicating someone got around it. I later dig through our access_log and > find that he tried to use FruitBatLeecher, which got blocked, but then > 6-7 minutes later came back with a leeching client that spoofs itself > as IE. > > And it gets worse. > > Many of these leeching programs get stuck in infinite loops when it > comes to forum software, so they sit there pounding on the webserver > indefinitely. It requires administrator intervention to stop it; in my > case, I don't even bother with Apache ACLs, because ~70% of the time > the client ignores 403s and keeps bashing away (yes really!) -- I go > straight for a pf-based block in a table called . These > guys will hit that block for *days* -- that should give you some idea > how long they'll let that program run. > > But it gets worse -- again. > > Recently, I found two examples of very dedicated leechers. One was an > individual out of China (or using Chinese IPs -- take your pick), and > another was at an Italian university. These individuals got past the > User-Agent blocks, and I caught their leeching software stuck in a loop > on the site forum. I blocked their IPs with pf, thinking it would be > enough, then went to sleep. I woke up the following evening to find > they were back at it again. How? > > The Chinese individual literally got another IP somehow, in a completely > different netblock; possibly a DHCP release/renew, possibly some friend > of his, whatever. > > The Italian university individual was successful in his leech attempts > exactly 50% of the time -- because their university used a transparent > HTTP proxy that was balanced between two IPs. I had only blocked one > of them. > > Starting to get the picture now? :-) > > The only effective way to deal with all of this is rate-limiting. I do > not advocate "queues" or "buckets", or "dynamic buckets" where each IP > is allocated X number of simultaneous sockets, and if they exceed that, > they get rate-limited. I also do not advocate "shared queues", where > if there are X number of sockets, allow Z amount of bandwidth, but if > X is more than, say, 200 sockets, allow Z/2 amount of bandwidth. > > The tuning is simply not worth it -- people will go to great lengths > to screw you. And if your stuff is in a 95th-percentile billing > environment, believe me, you DO NOT want to wake up one morning to > find that someone has cost you thousands of dollars. > > Also, I recommend using ipfw dummynet or pf ALTQ for rate-limiting. The > few Apache bandwidth-limiting modules I've tried have bizarre side > effects. Here's a forum post of mine (on the above site) explaining > why we moved away from mod_cband and went with pf ALTQ. > > http://nesdev.parodius.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=4184 > > > > > If you're that concerned about bandwidth (which is why a lot of people > > > do the above), consider rate-limiting. It's really, quite honestly, the > > > only method that is fail-safe. > > > > Thanks Jeremy. Certainly time to take the time to have another look at > > mod_rewrite, especially regarding redirection, alternative pages etc, > > but I still tend to glaze over about halfway through all that section. > > Yeah, I agree, the mod_rewrite documentation is overwhelming, and that > turns a lot of people off. The examples I gave you should allow you to > look up each piece of the directive at a time, and once you do that, > it'll all make sense. > > > And unless I've completely missed it, your examples don't address my > > question, being how to AND two or more conditions in a particular test? > > > > If I really can't do this with mod_setenvif I'll have to take that time. > > You can't do it with mod_setenvif. You can do it with mod_rewrite, > because all mod_rewrite rules default to an operator type of "AND". The > [OR] you see in my rules is an explicit override for obvious reasons. > > Open the Apache 1.3 mod_rewrite docs and search for "implicit AND". > It'll all make sense then. :-) > > I hope some of what I've said above gives you something to think about. > Hosting environments are a real pain in the ass; when it's "just you and > your own personal box" it's easy, but when it's larger scale and > involves users (customers or friends, doesn't matter), it's a totally > different game. > > -- > | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | > | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | > | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | > | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 17:26:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D37106564A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francesco.malvezzi@unimore.it) Received: from spostino.sms.unimo.it (smtp2.sms.unimo.it [155.185.44.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6148FC1E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:26:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from francesco.malvezzi@unimore.it) Received: from net-93-147-49-205.t2.dsl.vodafone.it ([93.147.49.205] helo=[192.168.1.4]) by spostino.sms.unimo.it with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Kyqv2-0001oi-IS; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:44:16 +0100 From: Francesco Malvezzi To: Ansar Mohammed In-Reply-To: <0c3801c941bd$343b0f80$9cb12e80$@com> References: <0c3801c941bd$343b0f80$9cb12e80$@com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:27:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1226161623.8251.1.camel@piopio> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: automatic creation of home directories X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:26:56 -0000 Il giorno sab, 08/11/2008 alle 11.15 -0500, Ansar Mohammed ha scritto: > Hello all, > > I have users logging in via Kerberos (authn) and LDAP (authz) on FreeBSD to > Active Directory. > > I don't like having to manually create their home directory. Is there some > way to have the login process automatically create the home directory on > login? Have you already checked pam_mkhomedir? I have a simpler setup (pam_ldap only), but it solved my issue. Regards, Francesco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 17:41:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A4A106567A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:41:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1166F8FC1B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:41:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF759AFC1C7; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 08:41:26 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:32:27 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <927777.56615.qm@web25604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <927777.56615.qm@web25604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811081832.28741.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: d bena Subject: Re: Compile : Always missing headers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:41:28 -0000 On Saturday 08 November 2008 14:11:59 d bena wrote: > Hi, > > We have just install our FreeBSD and we try naturally to update our system. > $ uname -a > FreeBSD pinky.e-cac.fr 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD > 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Wed Oct 1 10:10:12 UTC 2008 > root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 > > But each time we compile softs, ports or world, we have errors with the > headers not found or wrong headers like that : " > /usr/include/sys/param.h:63:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or > directory " " /usr/src/lib/libmagic/../../contrib/file/file.h:50:23: error: > > We don't understand why it lacks some headers files like > /usr/include/sys/types.h ? Only you can tell that. Is the file present or not? Maybe an fsck couldn't restore it? Or something went wrong during install? Do you have a /usr/src populated with the OS and kernel sources? -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 18:39:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B381065674 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:39:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A818FC14 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:39:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id mA8Id43N013308 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:39:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:40:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:39:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Question on creating a video server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:39:06 -0000 Hi All, OK, I'm just asking for opinions here on some application software. Like most people we have a nice big 21" TV set that will be obsolete in Feb. I have been thinking about replacing this with a big screen TV set but the prices on them are still way, way way out of my budget (I just can't see spending $500 for a TV set, sorry!!!!) I can pick up really high quality, large, old-style video monitors from a computer surplus place near here for next to nothing. I'd like to setup a PC and put a HDTV tuner card in it for over-the-air HDTV broadcasts, and use that as a TV. We also have a ton of DVD's and I'd like to rip these to video files and put them on the PC. Then when anyone wants to watch a movie they just watch it off the PC. I've already started doing this under Windows and it works great - it's even better since I can remove all those movie previews that the studio wants to force you to watch. Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get and what software works with it? PREFERABLY cheap - since ultimately we likely will get a big screen TV set once the prices fall. Ted From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 18:51:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38741106568B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: from wattres.watt.com (wattres.watt.com [66.93.133.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A942F8FC22 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:51:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@Watt.COM) Received: from wattres.watt.com (localhost.watt.com [127.0.0.1]) by wattres.watt.com (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA8IpGv3001981 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@wattres.watt.com) Received: (from steve@localhost) by wattres.watt.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) id mA8IpG38001980 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:51:16 -0800 From: Steve Watt To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20081108185116.GA1898@wattres.Watt.COM> References: <20081107231303.GA9804@wattres.Watt.COM> <4914E67A.40409@datapipe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4914E67A.40409@datapipe.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Callsign: KD6GGD X-Archived: 1226170276.068121559@wattres.Watt.COM X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wattres.watt.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:51:16 -0800 (PST) Cc: Subject: Re: Glob error? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Steve Watt List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:51:17 -0000 On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 07:08:10PM -0600, Paul A. Procacci wrote: > Steve Watt wrote: > >( Please cc: me on replies, as I can't keep up with traffic on -questions ) > > > >I did the following: > > > >% cd /tmp > >% mkdir -p a/dir1/new a/dir1/cur > >% mkdir -p b/dir1/new b/dir1/cur > >% mkdir -p c/dir1/new c/dir1/cur > >% ls -ld */dir1/new > >drwxrwxr-x 2 steve wheel 512 Nov 7 15:10 a/dir1/new/ > >% > > > >System is: > >FreeBSD wattres.Watt.COM 6.3-STABLE FreeBSD 6.3-STABLE #9: Tue May 13 > >16:06:34 PDT 2008 root@wattres.Watt.COM:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WATTRES > >i386 > > > >Source was probably updated a few hours before the kernel build time. > > > >Shell doesn't seem to matter (have tried both tcsh and bash). > > > >My cygwin installation seems to get it right. > > > >Known issue? A quick glance for "glob" in gnats didn't show anything > >promising. > > > > I too can't reproduce this on any of my machines: Well, it went away with my update to 6.4-PRE. Must've been a bad time to grab a -stable snapshot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 18:52:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311191065686 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:52:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF28F8FC17 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd6ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.163]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2008 11:52:54 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=7KNaUeF9bx3E7TJBtb8A:9 a=rAkeIwJ3UzUSItejxS0A:7 a=EWLvI2u2JVIeuUYCODgufjhTkpMA:4 a=fXKQn17K0WYA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd6ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 08 Nov 2008 11:52:53 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316E41701E for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:52:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:52:48 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081108105248.71766c93@gom.home> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Question on creating a video server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:52:55 -0000 On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:40:26 -0800 "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source > software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get > and what software works with it? > we found it awkward to do it on freebsd so used kubuntu. we tried lifeview flyvideo 2000 tv card which worked fine with mythtv and kdetv, but couldn't pick up the cable station we think due to our location in canada. for ripping we used perl's dvd::rip. our harddrive can't hold too many shows so we just use the dvd player on the computer now to play them. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 19:14:08 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95807106564A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2448FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:14:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-DS1 ([65.55.131.28]) by bay0-omc3-s23.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:14:08 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [69.243.66.105] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: In-Reply-To: From: "Sean Cavanaugh" To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" X-Unsent: 1 References: Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:14:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2008 19:14:08.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C94DD10:01C941D6] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on creating a video server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:14:08 -0000 > > Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source > software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get > and what software works with it? Look up MythTV. it's the opensource alternative to Windows Media Center and has a lot of nice functionality. It is in FreeBSD ports too. -Sean From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 19:47:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC21065678 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from lancer.b1c1l1.com (lancer.b1c1l1.com [72.13.86.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC258FC1F for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ben@b1c1l1.com) Received: from supra.b1c1l1.com (c-24-7-82-201.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.7.82.201]) by lancer.b1c1l1.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A4D595C21; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:47:57 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4915ECDF.3070407@b1c1l1.com> Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:47:43 -0800 From: Benjamin Lee User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081008) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Cavanaugh References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig91BE3A6704576C4E9E7BF433" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Question on creating a video server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:47:58 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig91BE3A6704576C4E9E7BF433 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/08/08 11:14, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: >> >> Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source >> software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get >o> and what software works with it? >=20 > Look up MythTV. it's the opensource alternative to Windows Media Center= > and has a lot of nice functionality. It is in FreeBSD ports too. Although MythTV is available in ports, there are significant disadvantages to running MythTV on FreeBSD. First, most TV tuner cards don't have corresponding FreeBSD kernel modules. Second, MythTV uses the Video4Linux API, which of course doesn't exist on FreeBSD -- instead, you hack the kernel to emulate V4L. Third, there is terribly limited LIRC (Linux Infrared Remote Control) support, and most people will want to use their remotes with their MythTV installations. I love FreeBSD, but running a PVR solution that is so closely tied to Linux (V4L, LIRC) is a bit of a hack. Don't get me wrong -- I tried it and discovered that the community has made significant progress towards getting it to work. But at the end of the day, I wanted a fully-functional PVR, not months of writing drivers and hacking V4L into the FreeBSD kernel. That's why I eventually made the decision to run MythTV on Linux, even though I'd *much* rather administer a machine running FreeBSD. --=20 Benjamin Lee --------------enig91BE3A6704576C4E9E7BF433 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJJFezpAAoJEN/n9makEYThvJkP/3/7ro6l6IyBBjnOZfGOBDoB RCsnM7HBBQvRk0kD6tKScsxGsuI3maXK2LpchF/imoHRe9L4CoTPFTe8RSDXx831 BS7akpOmHSj/M9b3PqZCBap25y2SIctFMDoyAx853j21T6ZYAsAWzX1gpW8hXqvx S9wxgmHq/qLqiHVdvf5vG0zrZfqvqkJkBGoLM+vWbeTjJ0UxjhF2HRPtUxD+06AX 4tQl1NhGFSkZ9lY68Kep6NqRyxN24LRJdiC/edckaImYK/tnnZDz0e3PX1MZPTbx lFnCY50pzZeOz3lfOh9cqzOWbUa0xGUqsZ4r20QTUY3nS9nM8LE5cDuLSX5vLrEH 0Vbtj0yFYOA9hi+6BdwWSUfRHzUN5umXCE+DBhuFp2lyR9nzKJ/XzsbwKL/OJRow SKAO95fPIWmvSu/x+++0tJmhJ+/FfWjjRBFDslOM4ZSxrEEV0GCACmulmGGbvhyU 3DbCxbVIxqk8TNA6J4JDrC3GjffUV5nR1b6uN1V56ApQ1PPIaRtLbo9kssB3vBxU c6mpzyy/oOMla4A6tkXmS/AiPckQmjdOz/f74ykptLPxKR1kEMUF67vfAElj1def pvvvvyg4yueqBmGDPJjxKLBpnOCIkpRxWKTDN/1ijyVg3LcXEi5TgEyyXQznP3Yv bTKwVBmsrJdW94drW8kB =GfB4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig91BE3A6704576C4E9E7BF433-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 19:02:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5596D106567C for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:02:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D248FC12 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:02:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EF728BDE for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:44:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.1 (20080629) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id evjXsLqNZ--t for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:44:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (unknown [41.223.156.242]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: grego03) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D979E28B53 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:44:08 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <4B1A9F30-B8BC-4C48-A85F-3697C6AB3B7B@todoo.biz> From: bsd To: Liste FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:43:52 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:48:03 +0000 Subject: scripting text replacement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:02:13 -0000 Sorry for this cross posting, but I can not find a good "bash" mailing =20= list=85 I am certain FreeBSD gurus will provide me with a fast and reliable =20 answer to this little question. Here is the deal: ----------------- I have a file containing a list of items like that: line1item1 line1item2 line1item3 line2item1 line2item2 line2item3 =85400 times I need to insert this into another text file using printf() items =20 should be converted into variable looping=85 like that: printf "Bla bla bla $1 bla bla $2 bla bla $3 bla bla $2" The main thing is that I can not get $1 $2 $3 to correspond to =20 line1item1 line1item2 line1item3 Any good idea or example will be welcome. =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 20:48:34 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56942106564A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 20:48:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC88FC16 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 20:48:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id mA8KmUY2074833 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id mA8KmUUr074832; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA17748; Sat, 8 Nov 08 12:39:40 PST Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 12:44:04 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl, bipolor@gmail.com Message-Id: <4915fa14.vqtg7f7qnYuMLvRh%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <20081108081229.GA3176@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> In-Reply-To: <20081108093248.J42716@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rsmith@xs4all.nl, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Port Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 20:48:34 -0000 > >> Is there a port like Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator for FreeBSD? > >> I would like to move to FreeBSD as soon as possible. > > > > You could try the gimp for manipulating bitmap images. For creating > > vector images, try either inkscape or xaralx. They're all in ports. > > i have a friend that do offset printing. > > he have to use windoze and photoshop for only one reason - gimp > doesn't support editing CMYK images If all else fails, one could try running the Windows versions of Photoshop and Illustrator under wine. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 21:09:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB711065687 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD928FC23 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:09:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id mA8L9l67045886; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:09:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.2/Submit) with ESMTP id mA8L9j1S045882; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:09:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:09:45 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081108220925.C45863@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on creating a video server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:09:58 -0000 > Has anyone done this with FreeBSD and open source > software, and has recommendations on what hardware to get > and what software works with it? mplayer play video files fine. no idea about HDTV tunes > > PREFERABLY cheap - since ultimately we likely will get > a big screen TV set once the prices fall. > > Ted > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 21:36:28 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBE61065679 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8A98FC16 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 21:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from af300wsm@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so955098wag.27 for ; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:36:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:message-id; bh=liqmdweYRLP43Exjhb+RfhfUwCno63uWjrygPeYYR9k=; b=Ut7wBv9oHNb96w/2J+dZJnsfafhaUlX6oLIaiE3i3ijGnTClhhrcgCuh+9WDDozLwG LQ9KjUoTSdTh2mYRI/+ubZR6CDS8Xb9QkPZwG+WxualZvdAq5/WCuJYnm6V4eYLI2OG9 vcCsRj23qNT2ByodJTXTmp70Sab4Zh93QFvAw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=WbrkAzW2kneg8rs+IZmMlkDYcfWfPGchl3z+fFOujpurb7/4wPu+nEfkmZvxidYEju SjvCzo3NXLaZHjRE29RIi2ZRhdbIT+ujo0osUeT+w7pi9dz8jb0lSMWQGpPdvyf/GVBL TfwvNQ9AVsqVO4y04MtAWzvTJCGX7BMHCD1aM= Received: by 10.115.91.2 with SMTP id t2mr2627314wal.224.1226180188072; Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sniper (71-221-163-108.bois.qwest.net [71.221.163.108]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n20sm7069330pof.27.2008.11.08.13.36.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:36:27 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Falanga To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 14:35:39 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200811081435.39732.af300wsm@gmail.com> Subject: How long does it take to compile KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:36:28 -0000 Hi I'm trying to install in KDE 4 and it's been stuck on Generating k3iconviewsearchline.moc for about 4 hours now. My box is a an amd64 (running amd64 kernel) 1.8ghz w/1gb RAM. I know that this request is quite "relative" based on hard hardware and such, but from those who have installed KDE4 from ports, can you give me the times it took you to compile? There are two reasons I haven't stopped the process yet. First, it's not acting like it's stuck, e.g. top shows that the system is 0.0% idle and the process, automoc4, isn't steady on a specific number it keeps going from ~92% - ~98% WCPU usage. This would seem to indicate that it's not stuck in a loop doing the same thing over and over but is really doing some work. Second, I've been around long enough to know that sometimes you just have to wait . . . a long time. Any ideas on time to compile would be good. Thanks, Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 22:02:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C16A1065679 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from igloo.linux.gr (igloo.linux.gr [62.1.205.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CF48FC1A for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:02:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl202-73.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.15.73]) (authenticated bits=128) by igloo.linux.gr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id mA8M2DJO012310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 9 Nov 2008 00:02:19 +0200 Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id mA8M2DMH066505; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 00:02:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id mA8M2BcH066445; Sun, 9 Nov 2008 00:02:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: bsd References: <4B1A9F30-B8BC-4C48-A85F-3697C6AB3B7B@todoo.biz> Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:02:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4B1A9F30-B8BC-4C48-A85F-3697C6AB3B7B@todoo.biz> (bsd@todoo.biz's message of "Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:43:52 +0100") Message-ID: <87skq1yizg.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-ID: mA8M2DJO012310 X-Hellug-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Hellug-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.058, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, AWL 0.34, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-Hellug-MailScanner-From: keramida@ceid.upatras.gr X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: scripting text replacement X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:02:22 -0000 On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 19:43:52 +0100, bsd wrote: > Sorry for this cross posting, but I can not find a good "bash" mailing > list=E2=80=A6 > I am certain FreeBSD gurus will provide me with a fast and reliable > answer to this little question. > > Here is the deal: > ----------------- > > I have a file containing a list of items like that: > > line1item1 line1item2 line1item3 > line2item1 line2item2 line2item3 > =E2=80=A6400 times > > I need to insert this into another text file using printf() items should > be converted into variable looping=E2=80=A6 like that: > > printf "Bla bla bla $1 bla bla $2 bla bla $3 bla bla $2" > > The main thing is that I can not get $1 $2 $3 to correspond to > line1item1 line1item2 line1item3 A little more detail about the "Bla bla" part may be important in our effort to help you effectively. What you seem to describe above may be trivial to do with awk(1): ,----------------------------------------------------------------------- | $ cat /tmp/inputfile | line1item1 line1item2 line1item3 | line2item1 line2item2 line2item3 | $ awk '{ | printf "Bla bla bla %s bla bla %s bla bla %s bla bla %s\n", | $1, $2, $3, $2; | }' /tmp/inputfile | Bla bla bla line1item1 bla bla line1item2 bla bla line1item3 bla bla line= 1item2 | Bla bla bla line2item1 bla bla line2item2 bla bla line2item3 bla bla line= 2item2 | $ `----------------------------------------------------------------------- or with a short script in sed(1) or Perl: ,----------------------------------------------------------------------- | $ perl \ | -pe 's/(\S+)\s+(\S+)\s+(\S+)/Bla bla bla $1 bla bla $2 bla bla $3 bla b= la $2/' \ | /tmp/inputfile | Bla bla bla line1item1 bla bla line1item2 bla bla line1item3 bla bla line= 1item2 | Bla bla bla line2item1 bla bla line2item2 bla bla line2item3 bla bla line= 2item2 | $ `----------------------------------------------------------------------- More complex substitutions can be scripted in almost any scripting language you prefer. HTH, Giorgos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 22:15:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9241B106567D for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.93]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B60F8FC19 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 22:15:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 19739 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2008 22:15:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:X-Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Y1d21gV23FlWUYzUqxlm5FaxDyJV+bYwwwAg/p30g9lWj/i28ucQjsq6yzB3td9/uWMccno+9+Y+y+hQsBe1duk1Y2ADiUIP7ZAN1PorzEmKwOnPdqEKNW1UKKB2uWxLSKvBOXhCBT1lOa8wZ+h6IvH2xhnNZPHUB/VXsmRHBI4= ; Received: from unknown (HELO scorpio) (gesbbb@76.23.177.172 with login) by smtp110.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2008 22:15:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 3TXwl7cVM1kaFGIUoKQxRg5p6g74EsNfcDRlBpya.coqZV9_ixohGTY7pTdCAA5EvvSGqNi6IIGOud_Q1rWpyd3nUZE8QIqdpB6D6MKWb67Qx7ziXSHvtE0EZd19nW61qcn6AwTlp6pYr6vHGq_CKYIxCqNvQiohoBaKz03ERrqJbEU6eq_AO3YI_g-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 17:15:31 -0500 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081108171531.2893ad08@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20081108164013.5d74790d@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <20081107031744.GA7088@shepherd> <20081107232800.GB5725@kokopelli.hydra> <20081108065558.060024b3@scorpio> <200811081525.12583.jonathan+freebsd-questions@hst.org.za> <20081108164013.5d74790d@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/UTsM++GgMcLEmCoX/9uW+qc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: recommendation word processer for xfce X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:15:44 -0000 --Sig_/UTsM++GgMcLEmCoX/9uW+qc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 16:40:13 +0000 RW wrote: [snip] >Some people argue that the cursor should start-off at the top because >you should start by removing superfluous quoted text before bottom >posting. If only that were true. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Did you know that for the price of a 280-Z you can buy two Z-80's? P. J. Plauger --Sig_/UTsM++GgMcLEmCoX/9uW+qc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkWD4wACgkQBvaKIJWWCO0NZgCgpOBurkEChFeRusSRQIz9ixIb xaEAn0fIb080g4bNg3+ZhYfXOh+FuIVw =uNHb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UTsM++GgMcLEmCoX/9uW+qc-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 8 23:38:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E67106568B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 23:38:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1D48FC1B for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2008 23:38:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 81664 invoked by uid 89); 8 Nov 2008 23:38:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 8 Nov 2008 23:38:21 -0000 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <542F28AE-3461-4530-B6AC-07FCEEEE6716@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Almberg Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 18:38:19 -0500 To: Ted Mittelstaedt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on creating a video server X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:38:23 -0000 On Nov 8, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Hi All, > > OK, I'm just asking for opinions here on some application > software. > > Like most people we have a nice big 21" TV set that will be > obsolete in Feb. I have been thinking about replacing this with a > big screen TV set but the prices on them are still way, way > way out of my budget (I just can't see spending $500 for > a TV set, sorry!!!!) > Why not just get a digital converter and keep using your nice TV? https://www.dtv2009.gov/