From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 00:09:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6A81065671; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eilko@bos-zuidema.nl) Received: from hobbes.brasapen.org (tafkam.xs4all.nl [82.95.217.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369F88FC28; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eilko@bos-zuidema.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hobbes.brasapen.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D4218984; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:51:33 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bos-zuidema.nl Received: from hobbes.brasapen.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wilma.brasapen.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gXumdABVwpS6; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:50:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.home.brasapen.org (webmail.home.brasapen.org [172.20.1.10]) by hobbes.brasapen.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F555189B8; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:50:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail.home.brasapen.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 97D7B1CC2B; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:50:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:50:49 +0100 From: Eilko Bos To: Michael Haro Message-ID: <20080308235049.GA74522@webmail.home.brasapen.org> References: <479BAC09.7040505@freebsd.se> <20080126223750.GA8397@marshal.spacemarines.us> <479BC21D.10607@skyrush.com> <4cd036390801270001u72363b72v84231956b173bf73@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4cd036390801270001u72363b72v84231956b173bf73@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Remco van Bekkum , Joe Peterson , Nikolaj Farrell , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:09:41 -0000 >From the keyboard of Michael Haro, written on Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:01:03AM -0800: > > Can anyone else using 7.0 who hasn't already (especially those using ZFS) > > check his/her /var/log/messages for disk TIMEOUTs or other disk error > > messages? If this is widespread, I think the chances re slim that it is a > > hardware problem in every case. > > I've had this problem with Hitachi sata drives using a promise sata controller. I am using 2 160Gb Maxtor disks in geom_mirror. With 6.3 it runs fine. I upgraded to 7.0-RELEASE and after install problems started. Disk TIMEOUTs freezed the box as soon as I initiated a lot of disk activity (e.g. make buildworld of building a kernel). I 'downgraded' the box to 6.3 again (had to rebuild the mirror because it was touched by a newer gmirror) and now the problems have gone again. I have the strong impression it is not hardware bot rather 7.0-RELEASE related. Actually I want to get rid of the box at home (want to carry it to a datacenter) but if it can be helpfull I am willing to have it for another week or two at home to upgrade/downgrade/etc. with it. My dmesg (6.3 again): -------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 root@dessler.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel Pentium III (1000.04-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x68a Stepping = 10 Features=0x383fbff real memory = 1610592256 (1535 MB) avail memory = 1564733440 (1492 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 3 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 0 ioapic0 irqs 0-15 on motherboard ioapic1 irqs 16-31 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0xe408-0xe40b on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 cpu1: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 fxp0: port 0xd800-0xd83f mem 0xfe000000-0xfe000fff,0xfd800000-0xfd8fffff at device 2.0 on pci0 miibus0: on fxp0 inphy0: on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fxp0: Ethernet address: 00:e0:18:47:01:35 em0: port 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xfd000000-0xfd01ffff,0xfc800000-0xfc81ffff irq 17 at device 4.0 on pci0 em0: Ethernet address: 00:07:e9:3e:e7:90 pci0: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) isab0: port 0xe800-0xe80f at device 15.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xb800-0xb80f at device 15.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata1: on atapci0 ohci0: mem 0xfa000000-0xfa000fff irq 9 at device 15.2 on pci0 ohci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (0x1166) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered pcib1: on acpi0 pci1: on pcib1 sym0: <1010-33> port 0xb400-0xb4ff mem 0xf9800000-0xf98003ff,0xf9000000-0xf9001fff irq 24 at device 5.0 on pci1 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym0: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. sym0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sym1: <1010-33> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xf8800000-0xf88003ff,0xf8000000-0xf8001fff irq 25 at device 5.1 on pci1 sym1: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-80, LVD, parity checking sym1: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym1: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. sym1: handling phase mismatch from SCRIPTS. sym1: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: port 0x378-0x37f,0x778-0x77a irq 7 drq 3 on acpi0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FAST] fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xc97ff,0xcc000-0xcc7ff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. (noperiph:sym1:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. ad0: 152627MB at ata0-master UDMA33 ad1: 152627MB at ata0-slave UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master PIO4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Rebuilding the mirror: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0 created (id=24929696). GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad0 activated. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider mirror/gm0 launched. GEOM_MIRROR: Kernel module is too old to handle metadata from ad1. SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a em0: link state changed to UP GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: provider ad1 detected. GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0: rebuilding provider ad1. Grtz, -- Eilko Bos. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 02:03:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F054E1065671 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from yertle.kcilink.com (thingy.kcilink.com [74.92.149.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ACD8FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vivek@khera.org) Received: from cocoa.khera.org (unknown [192.168.135.91]) by yertle.kcilink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62028A03A for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:02:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: From: Vivek Khera To: FreeBSD Stable List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:02:59 -0500 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: Re: RELEASE discs & ISO images (for future) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:03:01 -0000 On Mar 7, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Vadim Goncharov wrote: > But now release announcement says that for LiveFS I need TWO disks - > both > disc1 and livefs disk. WHY? Why not to pack they both to a single > disc1, > this was very comfortable. I discovered that the livefs disk is bootable and can do a full install of freebsd as well. there just are no packages on it, which suits me just fine. this is the disk i will keep handy for new installs + emergency repairs. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 02:05:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B941065670 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lstewart@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.150]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4758C8FC22 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lstewart@freebsd.org) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ag0IAM/N0kfSVCQt/2dsb2JhbACMH4Ypl2s X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,468,1199631600"; d="scan'208";a="189938324" Received: from unknown (HELO newbox.caia.swin.edu.au) ([210.84.36.45]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out4.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Mar 2008 10:36:15 +0900 Message-ID: <47D33F0D.70205@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:36:13 +1100 From: Lawrence Stewart User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (X11/20070625) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dirk Meyer , Gil Bidon References: <2de9b4690802201459y7d916bc9i3a0d5548d3025327@mail.gmail.com> <47BF74AB.6040001@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <47BF74AB.6040001@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.3 update and process freeze X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:05:59 -0000 Lawrence Stewart wrote: > Dirk Meyer wrote: >> Gil Bidon schrieb:, >> >>> Since i've updated my machine to FreeBSD 6.3 some process randomly start >>> using 100% CPU or are locked to STOP state (in top). >>> >>> Is there a known solution / patch ? Except the rollback :) >> >> I see this for mail/antivirus-milter too. >> But I have not been able to trace it down, >> the machine is remote and locks up fully. >> On normal load it runs fine, >> Maybe an resource-limit is not enforced? >> >> It looks similar to the nagios thread problem. >> > > To add another data point, I've been seeing similar problems as reported > in this thread on a server I upgraded 2 weeks ago from 6.2-RELEASE-p10 > to 6.3-RELEASE. > > I run the spamass-milter-0.3.1_3 port with sendmail and since the > upgrade, spamass-milter processes would randomly wedge and spin using > 100% CPU. > > I used GDB to attach to a spinning process and got the following backtrace: > > (gdb) backtrace > 0 0x281a8198 in pthread_sigmask () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 > 1 0x281a8148 in sigprocmask () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 > 2 0x281b260c in pthread_mutexattr_init () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 > 3 0x281a52db in fork () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 > 4 0x0804d944 in ?? () > 5 0x0804e0cf in ?? () > 6 0x28089d31 in mi_engine () from /usr/lib/libmilter.so.3 > 7 0x28089427 in mi_engine () from /usr/lib/libmilter.so.3 > 8 0x28088c15 in mi_handle_session () from /usr/lib/libmilter.so.3 > 9 0x2808833b in mi_opensocket () from /usr/lib/libmilter.so.3 > 10 0x281ac3c9 in pthread_create () from /lib/libpthread.so.2 > 11 0x2826a837 in _ctx_start () from /lib/libc.so.6 > > Some time on google found these seemingly related links: > > http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/stable/2008-01/msg00570.html > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119920 > > My understanding of the way spamass-milter works is that it forks a > child for each email it processes, which does make it seem plausible I'm > seeing the pthread fork problem. Assuming this is true, the solution I'm > currently testing might solve the problem i.e using /etc/libmap.conf to > globally map libpthread to libthr using the following line: > > libpthread.so.2 libthr.so.2 > > You of course have to restart all the processes that link against > libpthread.so.2 in order for the libmap.conf change to take effect. > > I only made the change and restarted the processes a couple of days ago > so I won't know for a week or two whether it has fixed the problem. So > far everything is working as it did before so nothing appears to have > regressed since the change. For archival reference, I have not seen this problem appear since making the switch to using libthr instead of libpthread, so I think it is safe to say that it has solved the issue for me. Others who are experiencing symptoms similar to those described in this thread should probably give the libmap trick a go. Cheers, Lawrence From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 02:44:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A0F1065671 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FCA8FC13 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:44:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A22F11CC033; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Torfinn Ingolfsen Message-ID: <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <200803071059.48837.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200803070913.12978.jhb@freebsd.org> <20080308131610.43b57ee6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <47D29352.5050503@andric.com> <20080308222145.68b284e9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080308222145.68b284e9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:44:51 -0000 On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 10:21:45PM +0100, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:23:30 +0100 > Dimitry Andric wrote: > > > No, update it to 1.45 (=HEAD) and then apply the patch, that's much > > easier. > > Yes, that worked better - the patch applied cleanly, amd I could > rebuild the loader. > > Here is how I did the rebuilding (all this done on another machine, > which have no troubles booting from usb): > I booted the machine from usb (da0), replaced btx.S with revision 1.45 > and did: > cd /usr/src > patch -p6 < .../btx_real.patch > cd sys/boot/i386 > make > Then I copied the files to the hard drive: > boot0cfg -B -b /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot0/boot0 da0 > cp -v /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader/loader /boot > > Is this the correct way to do build and update the files? To quote lolcats: "yr doin it wrong". The Handbook goes over how to rebuild the bootblocks. See Section 24.6.5.2, which is for Serial Console. You can skip the obvious steps (items 1-3, and item 5). Patch the source *before* doing item 4, obviously: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html There's a lot of pieces involved when it comes to BTX; all stages (boot0, boot1, boot2/loader) appear to use the BTX library in src/sys/boot/i386/btx/lib. Thus, following the procedure above is the right way to do things. Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I don't use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 02:49:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18BA106566C for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD1A8FC18 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 02:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B8601CC033; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:49:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:49:32 -0800 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Eilko Bos Message-ID: <20080309024932.GB92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <479BAC09.7040505@freebsd.se> <20080126223750.GA8397@marshal.spacemarines.us> <479BC21D.10607@skyrush.com> <4cd036390801270001u72363b72v84231956b173bf73@mail.gmail.com> <20080308235049.GA74522@webmail.home.brasapen.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080308235049.GA74522@webmail.home.brasapen.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Remco van Bekkum , Joe Peterson , Nikolaj Farrell , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Michael Haro Subject: Re: ad8: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors UFS 7.0-RC1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:49:32 -0000 On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:50:49AM +0100, Eilko Bos wrote: > >From the keyboard of Michael Haro, written on Sun, Jan 27, 2008 at 12:01:03AM -0800: > > > Can anyone else using 7.0 who hasn't already (especially those using ZFS) > > > check his/her /var/log/messages for disk TIMEOUTs or other disk error > > > messages? If this is widespread, I think the chances re slim that it is a > > > hardware problem in every case. > > > > I've had this problem with Hitachi sata drives using a promise sata controller. > > I am using 2 160Gb Maxtor disks in geom_mirror. With 6.3 it runs fine. I > upgraded to 7.0-RELEASE and after install problems started. Disk TIMEOUTs > freezed the box as soon as I initiated a lot of disk activity (e.g. make > buildworld of building a kernel). > > I 'downgraded' the box to 6.3 again (had to rebuild the mirror because it was > touched by a newer gmirror) and now the problems have gone again. I have the > strong impression it is not hardware bot rather 7.0-RELEASE related. > Actually I want to get rid of the box at home (want to carry it to a datacenter) > but if it can be helpfull I am willing to have it for another week or two at > home to upgrade/downgrade/etc. with it. You should consider posting the SMART stats for both /dev/ad0 and /dev/ad1 (because you didn't disclose which disk is showing problems; I assume ad0 though). You can get these by installing ports/sysutils/smartmontools and using "smartctl -a ad0" (same for ad1). This can help narrow down the problem. Confirming it's *not* a disk issue is helpful. More importantly: if the problem is easily reproducable for you under RELENG_7, you should contact Scott Long, who has offered to help track this problem down. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 10:19:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06651065670 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from window@ttk.ru) Received: from mail.ttk.ru (mail.ttk.ru [82.138.20.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F098FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:19:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from window@ttk.ru) Received: from mail.ttk.ru (localhost.ttk.ru [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ttk.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0991B28C4 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:59:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [10.10.10.3] (window.ttk.ru [82.138.24.32]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.ttk.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710951B0542 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:59:08 +0300 (MSK) From: Oleg Sidorkin Organization: ttk.ru To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:56:26 +0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803080201.51851.window@ttk.ru> <20080308112129.GW57756@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20080308112129.GW57756@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803091256.26279.window@ttk.ru> X-Virus-Scanned: Onyx-2 Subject: Re: [Panic] Removing of the Palm during select syscall causes panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:19:05 -0000 On Sat, Mar 08, 2008, Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 02:01:51AM +0300, Oleg Sidorkin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm running 7.0-Stable on the ASUS P5K-VM + Intel Q6600 box. > > If Palm device is disconnected after synchronization, system crashes with > > following stacktrace: > > > > #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 > > #1 0x0000000000000004 in ?? () > > #2 0xffffffff802bea49 in boot (howto=260) > > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 > > #3 0xffffffff802bee4d in panic (fmt=0x104
) > > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:563 > > #4 0xffffffff804ccc84 in trap_fatal (frame=0xffffff0041595350, > > eva=18446742974491038824) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:724 > > #5 0xffffffff804cd055 in trap_pfault (frame=0xffffffffaf7607d0, > > usermode=0) at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:641 > > #6 0xffffffff804cd998 in trap (frame=0xffffffffaf7607d0) > > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:410 > > #7 0xffffffff804b35fe in calltrap () > > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:169 > > #8 0xffffffff8028d842 in giant_poll (dev=0xffffff000ddf6600, events=64, > > td=0xffffff0041595350) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_conf.c:385 > > #9 0xffffffff8025474e in devfs_poll_f (fp=Variable "fp" is not > > available. ) at /usr/src/sys/fs/devfs/devfs_vnops.c:845 > > #10 0xffffffff802f61f6 in kern_select (td=0xffffff0041595350, nd=11, > > fd_in=0x7fffffbfea90, fd_ou=0x0, fd_ex=0x0, tvp=Variable "tvp" is not > > available. > > ) at file.h:277 > > #11 0xffffffff802f6611 in select (td=0xffffff0041595350, > > uap=0xffffffffaf760be0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:663 > > #12 0xffffffff804cd2d7 in syscall (frame=0xffffffffaf760c70) > > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:852 > > #13 0xffffffff804b380b in Xfast_syscall ()stable@freebsd.org > > at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:290 > > #14 0x0000000804579d6c in ?? () > > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > I posted the patch several days ago, see > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2008-March/084076.html I applied this patch and it seems working for me. I removed device few times and there were no panics. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 10:40:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA1B106567C for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:40:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jo.lindqvist@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E998FC21 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:40:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jo.lindqvist@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so1237172hub.8 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:40:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zOj2z6gkJWiPom6gsMLzoVi5uFiBbvnSLdTCB+Dvl3Y=; b=Jd1yDXY0/7rSlwgKF5emdZwImUmjeVNEvhUY652o//nSMoLhUiGqVUmGb3FIDu6XTdnLWaoN2SBFIZG/+Y0k3u016Zi4PE+anfvVanToWaTKm13EHjUwSFHkFh+alOqZuMvz3vbRExtSXWmWuGvpCVaoH9Hdqb6ywLMaoWDT+d0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VaeKFo+TFjFSU4aNN+gZeUgCb5v5cQMO/SlqsJafK9GqQEyrnFrB7t7fmPhtfbO3Cpse1mEDl2/DIMimgqOjR+bFtzmP/RaZQrdgjO+FM4EShDeSJnAO0Dhvv9Q9HGlVudxXclbdQM4Fl3Do6l4ekt7w/vji498n4iLJQ59PddA= Received: by 10.66.237.14 with SMTP id k14mr2981804ugh.72.1205058286332; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.11.11? ( [85.226.138.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23sm26110148ugd.56.2008.03.09.03.24.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47D3BAE3.8030008@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:24:35 +0100 From: Jan-Olof Lindqvist User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Penner References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd segfaults on run - was advised that it's an issue with the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:40:37 -0000 Ross Penner wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently run the upgrade gamut and moved from 6.3 to 7.0. I've > had a few hick ups but this one I can't resolve. I used musicpd > (http://www.freshports.org/audio/musicpd/) on 6.3 to stream to a > shoutcast server. When I start mpd on 7.0, it immediately has a > segmentation fault and dumps its core. > > I discussed the issue in the musicpd irc channel and I was advised > that it seemed like it was an issue with the system, not with musicpd. > Since upgrading to 7.0, I've reinstalled all my ports and since > discovering the problem, I've reinstalled musicpd specifically. The > backtrace from gdb is as follows: > > #0 0x28140b15 in pthread_setcancelstate () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > #1 0x281388ac in open () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > #2 0x286ac269 in __stack_chk_fail () from /lib/libssp.so.0 > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () > #4 0xbfbfe6a8 in ?? () > #5 0x28084ead in _rtld_thread_init () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > > Any help or direction I can get to finding the solution to this > problem would be greatly appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hi, I am the maintainer of musicpd and have been running it on 7.0 since RC1 with amd64 arch. maybe there's something in the configuration file. Tried loading mpd with a simpler configuration? -- Jan-Olof Lindqvist http://www.jail.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 12:10:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D411065672 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jo.lindqvist@gmail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745E08FC18 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:10:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jo.lindqvist@gmail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so1284448hub.8 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:10:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7M6al58zPtijlxZwUNs+fZ9lGJUc8IVkrDCj4q0XudQ=; b=SfQEgdJctj9XfhfAKTNHFJLIEEBNSvMl7Twwvc7K3fc4fiauxoKtle6p+nL2EXl6uoPPuvxiD2sWiiZmKTv2y5rFHcTaOVfGkaDM2LmI8PQvTxEFvfl3E/hUGqH31kXB5Sv6SvJ2RpqTeWRncx6WF/HVK912egTg/EQabz0Ad6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RvOgXSSEfzl5aKrqhcUlyhYGxGQVLpCLsnQOvRe+Mt/ATZJRvka0g96JC6XdakVIHuz14T+IdFcXLma8yTCnN8kysB630S4VcVJ9YrzSFG1yVtjehesDugRHNwdNoGxGgTksNO6VGGWHksRmoFeaRxwtvojuFEhLdOl1oLNNI78= Received: by 10.78.189.5 with SMTP id m5mr9922222huf.74.1205064629588; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.11.11? ( [85.226.138.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j1sm26342065ugf.74.2008.03.09.05.10.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47D3D3B0.6090605@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:10:24 +0100 From: Jan-Olof Lindqvist User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080227) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ross Penner References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd segfaults on run - was advised that it's an issue with the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:10:32 -0000 Ross Penner wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently run the upgrade gamut and moved from 6.3 to 7.0. I've > had a few hick ups but this one I can't resolve. I used musicpd > (http://www.freshports.org/audio/musicpd/) on 6.3 to stream to a > shoutcast server. When I start mpd on 7.0, it immediately has a > segmentation fault and dumps its core. > > I discussed the issue in the musicpd irc channel and I was advised > that it seemed like it was an issue with the system, not with musicpd. > Since upgrading to 7.0, I've reinstalled all my ports and since > discovering the problem, I've reinstalled musicpd specifically. The > backtrace from gdb is as follows: > > #0 0x28140b15 in pthread_setcancelstate () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > #1 0x281388ac in open () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > #2 0x286ac269 in __stack_chk_fail () from /lib/libssp.so.0 > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () > #4 0xbfbfe6a8 in ?? () > #5 0x28084ead in _rtld_thread_init () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > > Any help or direction I can get to finding the solution to this > problem would be greatly appreciated. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Hmmm, it looks like the update for 0.13.1 does core dump on 7.0 no matter the config. 0.13.0 still works. -- Jan-Olof Lindqvist http://www.jail.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 12:17:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B96E106566B for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:17:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15128FC14 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 12:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0JXG00J09Q5AMDE0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:17:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.173.59]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0JXG007DZQ59A800@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:17:34 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:17:31 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080309131731.4f7a82db.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <200803071059.48837.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200803070913.12978.jhb@freebsd.org> <20080308131610.43b57ee6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <47D29352.5050503@andric.com> <20080308222145.68b284e9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:17:36 -0000 On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > To quote lolcats: "yr doin it wrong". Thanks for confirming that. :-) > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html Well, I followed the right steps to rebuild the boot blocks, installed them and verfifie that they did work on the machine tha can boot from usb without problems. Unfortunately, that Acer laptop still have the same problems: I get the F1, F2 menu, and as soon as I press F1 or F2, the screen starts scrolling register dumps forever. > Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I don't > use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). I'll try that one as well, but I don't have high hopes of success now. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 13:07:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D86C01065672 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B498FC31 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:07:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0JXG00LVTSFTJZ10@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.173.59]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0JXG004ANSFRXYN0@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:07:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:07:03 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080309140703.a18c53a6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <200803071059.48837.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200803070913.12978.jhb@freebsd.org> <20080308131610.43b57ee6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <47D29352.5050503@andric.com> <20080308222145.68b284e9.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:07:06 -0000 On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I don't > use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). I used 'fdisk -B da0' to install /boot/mbr to the disk for testing. When I now boot the disk on the Acer laptop, it just displays one register dump followed by "BTX halted". -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 13:42:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B67106566C for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:42:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FB238FC19 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:42:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 09 Mar 2008 13:16:00 -0000 Received: from i5387482C.versanet.de (EHLO tower) [83.135.72.44] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 09 Mar 2008 14:16:00 +0100 X-Authenticated: #171259 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19j7WEsL3Jj6bCBZY7IUi/vSqGz1kNXB7SdDoyzvS bzZ/WH3/6tB+3z From: Mark Nowiasz To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:15:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:42:42 -0000 Hi all, There appears to be a small and vexing bug in devfs. I've got the following devfs.rules: [system=10] add path 'da0*' mode 660 group wheel user mark add path 'da1*' mode 600 group wheel user mark add path 'usb*' group cups add path 'usb*' mode 0666 add path 'ugen*' group cups add path 'ugen*' mode 0666 add path 'cd*' mode 660 group wheel user mark add path 'pass0' mode 660 group wheel user mark All entries except the pass0 are working fine: tower# ls -la /dev/pass0 crw------- 1 root operator 0, 107 9 Mär 13:57 /dev/pass0 After /etc/rc.d/devfs restart tower# ls -la /dev/pass0 crw-rw-rw- 1 mark wheel 0, 107 9 Mär 13:57 /dev/pass0 Do you have any ideas what's wrong? I'm using 7.0-STABLE/amd64 Regards, Mark -- Every four seconds a woman has a baby. Our problem is to find this woman and stop her. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 13:40:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F27A106566B for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46F18FC18 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:39:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from balgaa@micom.mn) Received: from [203.91.112.54] (helo=engineer) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JYLhf-000CB7-0Y for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:39:51 +0800 Message-ID: <003301c881ea$99841640$6501a8c0@engineer> From: "Balgansuren Batsukh" To: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:36:34 +0800 Organization: Personal Email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8822D.A5B52330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:50:16 +0000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 6.2/6.3/7.0 install CD boot panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Balgansuren Batsukh List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:40:18 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8822D.A5B52330 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hello, > > I tried to install FreeBSD-6.2/6.3/7.0 on Dell E520. > > When it get boot install CD, ask me language selection then panic. I mean > keyboard, mouse no response, only can power off. > > Dell hasn't any serial port for debug. > > Only I use digital camera to capture screen. > > I tried to all boot options 1,2,3,4,5. When I try to boot using without > ACPI > and got general proctection fault. > > Please find attached screen. > > Regards, > Balgaa > ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C8822D.A5B52330-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 15:27:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDDA106566C for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:27:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A918FC23 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:27:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from darcsis@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so1397403qbd.7 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:27:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:cc:subject:references:from:organization:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PD3V9BucoZRPWeulEWUE90ZVJLD6QWBAzWIdsP+PhDg=; b=R2HoutRHb2YyaVGT0//pWqgcYE5bl6zBslrQzVgsmf2tWl1NDPd7zduamF1SMmD5YXnD+Nf3cARnZrn0DG+ndH2D4v93eGpALXiO5v/avUJA18C4acJJxF0g8dh/2e4qXmpe5g3CcXF/raLApUQEEmUDzjiIZ8Vk/X70Cwydzyg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:cc:subject:references:from:organization:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pYruoSJ1n4mBQ+oekAyho+fPHZhDvPYHJL8ioS3aXV8pOW/fEevdFRALsCzM4RgoILDY1Ih/HdhMkvs8zR3XlP/tCEkZIMqQWJ5fGw5bHHly0JPDU4gtlYwFtkiWpG0fxZEcL0a32e4ksUIIhQ9OgoIiL74jFOIKyUc4z6BwsuU= Received: by 10.65.126.16 with SMTP id d16mr6594219qbn.84.1205075510902; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluton.xbsd.name ( [123.117.35.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i34sm12638265wxd.15.2008.03.09.08.11.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Mark Nowiasz References: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> From: darcsis@gmail.com (Denise H. G.) Organization: Terra Firma Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:11:39 +0800 In-Reply-To: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> (Mark Nowiasz's message of "Sun\, 9 Mar 2008 14\:15\:58 +0100") Message-ID: <864pbg7x04.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:27:31 -0000 Mark Nowiasz writes: > Hi all, > > There appears to be a small and vexing bug in devfs. I've got the followi= ng=20 > devfs.rules: > > [system=3D10] > add path 'da0*' mode 660 group wheel user mark > add path 'da1*' mode 600 group wheel user mark > add path 'usb*' group cups > add path 'usb*' mode 0666 > add path 'ugen*' group cups > add path 'ugen*' mode 0666 > add path 'cd*' mode 660 group wheel user mark > add path 'pass0' mode 660 group wheel user mark > > All entries except the pass0 are working fine: > > tower# ls -la /dev/pass0 > crw------- 1 root operator 0, 107 9 M=E4r 13:57 /dev/pass0 > > After /etc/rc.d/devfs restart > > tower# ls -la /dev/pass0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 mark wheel 0, 107 9 M=E4r 13:57 /dev/pass0 > > Do you have any ideas what's wrong? try to write like this: add path `pass*` mode 660=20 there is no problem with my 7-STABLE/amd64. > > I'm using 7.0-STABLE/amd64 >=20=20 > Regards, > Mark > --=20 > Every four seconds a woman has a baby. Our problem is to find this woman= and=20 > stop her. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" --=20 Denise H. G. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 16:19:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A790106566B for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ross.penner@gmail.com) Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60528FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ross.penner@gmail.com) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so1408476qbd.7 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WNTr2CYapZa528byJeGQqQ2Nvth1thP8z+38ZJ+d1l0=; b=JysRMRxvFGi1iDnMxlKH3p6gEzIv3BIGvNeSW1ZW6+8yWcoiL6U8ZNCephgAksY9ty7EQFQMRYbSDE62PXwjOgCxg4uB2h7/d2eYDxfL2Z1m9sJb/o1SrOtbsicL+2FabbuNVkAagkVf0wLMqD5DfiXMek0X+loY7v9HOkVXyOY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qvbFsWVF9A5dIj3DzRP2IRB1TaCk6myn3dwa6d62dGPI5J9FxPrdk23VKCZSsiLBArNohnXcwgnHhoox4oXG1wpVi+97NRIyQuvUGlq1s4R/QQjbDgAbZLJh81RTiF9L7jkEJFfBk2sglhXV1MaPFavn0pRAubgisicx2jiPcuY= Received: by 10.142.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr1399657wfv.121.1205079561154; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.242.20 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:19:21 -0600 From: "Ross Penner" To: "Jan-Olof Lindqvist" In-Reply-To: <47D3D3B0.6090605@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47D3D3B0.6090605@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd segfaults on run - was advised that it's an issue with the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:19:23 -0000 On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 6:10 AM, Jan-Olof Lindqvist wrote: > > Ross Penner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've recently run the upgrade gamut and moved from 6.3 to 7.0. I've > > had a few hick ups but this one I can't resolve. I used musicpd > > (http://www.freshports.org/audio/musicpd/) on 6.3 to stream to a > > shoutcast server. When I start mpd on 7.0, it immediately has a > > segmentation fault and dumps its core. > > > > I discussed the issue in the musicpd irc channel and I was advised > > that it seemed like it was an issue with the system, not with musicpd. > > Since upgrading to 7.0, I've reinstalled all my ports and since > > discovering the problem, I've reinstalled musicpd specifically. The > > backtrace from gdb is as follows: > > > > #0 0x28140b15 in pthread_setcancelstate () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > > #1 0x281388ac in open () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > > #2 0x286ac269 in __stack_chk_fail () from /lib/libssp.so.0 > > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () > > #4 0xbfbfe6a8 in ?? () > > #5 0x28084ead in _rtld_thread_init () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > > > > > Any help or direction I can get to finding the solution to this > > problem would be greatly appreciated. > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Hmmm, it looks like the update for 0.13.1 does core dump on 7.0 no > matter the config. 0.13.0 still works. > > > > -- > Jan-Olof Lindqvist > http://www.jail.se > I've posted this problem on www.musicpd.com in this thread: http://www.musicpd.org/forum/index.php?topic=1586.0 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 16:43:31 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92F5106566B; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518D28FC1D; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:43:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m29GhTHg075987; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:43:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m29GhTxt075986; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:43:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:43:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803091643.m29GhTxt075986@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vadim_nuclight@mail.ru In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-current User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:43:30 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: RELEASE discs & ISO images (for future) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:43:32 -0000 Vadim Goncharov wrote: > 7.0-RELEASE images came out with FIVE disks - disc 1 to 3 and separate LiveFS > and docs. What do they contain? - The small "bootonly" CD contains only sysinstall. It can be used if you want to install from the network. - Disk 1 contains everything you need to install the base FreeBSD system, as well as a few useful packages. - Disk 2 and 3 just contain more packages. - The "docs" CD only contains documentation: Handbook, FAQ and articles in various languages. These are also available online, so there's rarely a need to download this CD. - The "livefs" CD contains the usual "fixit" live file system. It is bootable on its own, so you do _not_ need to download disk1 if you only want the livefs CD. By the way, you can combine disk1 and the livefs image into a single ISO image and write it onto a DVD-R. It won't fit on a CD-R disk, though, and that's the reason why the lifefs went onto a separate ISO image. > I suspect this separation is due to sizes od docs etc. - but CD drives can now > handle even 700 MBs of data, and disc1 for i386 occupies only 509M, though > disc2 is 694M, yes. As you can see, disk1 + livefs is larger than 700 MB. The docs CD is separate anyway, which is a good thing because many people won't need it. > May be it is desirable to compress docs and other base system parts with > bzip2 -9 instead of gzip? What exactly would you propose to compress? Compressing the docs isn't a good idea, because then you wouldn't be able to read them directly from the CD. Also, as mentioned above, the docs are already on a separate CD. > P.S. And may be it is good also to resurrect miniinst disk for > Depenguinator project? :) Do you mean the "bootonly" CD? It's already there. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Life is short (You need Python)" -- Bruce Eckel, ANSI C++ Comitee member, author of "Thinking in C++" and "Thinking in Java" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 17:14:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBABC1065685 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A65E8FC1E for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m29HEYQo077133; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:14:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m29HEYBc077132; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:14:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:14:34 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803091714.m29HEYBc077132@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no In-Reply-To: <20080306230625.5c6df098.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:14:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:14:39 -0000 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Kevin Oberman wrote: > > You don't set up an IPv6 network. You simply have end nodes that will > > use IPv6 when/if it is available by just making a one-line change in > > rc.conf as opposed to a kernel re-build. > > But to make it (an ip v6 network) useful, I (as an end user) would need > a dns domain for the machines I control, preferable a zone that *I* have > control over. Yes, that's preferable. > In other words; if I have machines with ipv6 adresses that I can reach > globally, but don't have a dns name for them, the usefulness is very > limited. > > Is that challenge solved somehow with ipv6? > It doesn't look like dyndns.org supports ipv6 in their free service. Why use dyndns.org? Your IPv6 address isn't dynamic. Usually you get a static /64 subnet assigned, and the reverse DNS is delegated to you, so you have full control. My home ISP doesn't support native IPv6 yet (though they say they're working on it), but they host a SixXS node, so I registered with sixxs.org. (Everybody can register with them, even if your ISP doesn't have its own node.) Once you have registered, you can request a tunnel, and then you can get a static /64 subnet assigned, including reverse DNS delegation. Works fine for me. Now I can start to assign IPv6 addresses to my LEGO bricks. :-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing."         -- Mother Teresa From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 17:17:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E74771065672 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BA4A8FC14 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 17:17:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from nbc.matik.com.br (nbc.matik.com.br [200.152.88.34] (may be forged)) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m29HH87b064785; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:17:08 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:19:33 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <20080306192408.4C1864500E@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20080306192408.4C1864500E@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803062019.33435.joao@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 17:17:18 -0000 On Thursday 06 March 2008 16:24:08 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Agreed. =A0But at this stage I can't justify the effort to do anything > > more than have a very cursory glance it at. =A0What benefit would I > > derive from setting up an IPv6 network and attempting to experiment > > with it? =A0My ISP won't support IPv6 and I'm reasonably certain my > > cable-modem doesn't either so IPv6 connectivity would entail some > > sort of tunnel. > > You don't set up an IPv6 network. You simply have end nodes that will > use IPv6 when/if it is available by just making a one-line change in > rc.conf as opposed to a kernel re-build. > > If you have a Windows Vista box (and I'm told several people do, even > though I have never used one), it has IPv6, it is always enabled, and it > REALLY, REALLY tries to use it using several mechanisms including Toredo > tunnels (which are either very cool or the spawn of Satan, depending on > who you talk to). eventually this few lines show why this thread goes so far ...=20 your computer will or better CAN use ipv6 when it is on a ipv6 network and= =20 nothing else, ipv6 WILL NOT come eventually available on your ipv4 network= =20 (unless it's address space change ...) this has nothing to do with vista or dawn, this is a routing issue and as l= ong=20 as you are NOT on a ipv6 network you do NOT need ipv6 on our machine, still= =20 beeing able to access ipv6 networks ... as weel as ipv6 networls can access= =20 ipv4 networlks guys, if not so all this ipv[4|6] stuff wouldn't make any=20 sense ... as long as you talk in endpoints you also can access any rfc1918 address as= =20 long as you have some setup (VPN?) for that, so what you say here is not=20 exactly true, either for windows nor for unix, the OS at the end has=20 absolutelty NOTHING to do with ipv6 neither with ipv4 ... so final point here is that you need ipv6 on your machine when you are on a= =20 ipv6 network or want by any means connect directly to a remote ipv6 endpoin= t,=20 similare as you do a VPN connection to a rfc1918 network wether this are=20 tunnels or whatever provided by either satans or daemons ... guys please ... =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. 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> > my xorg.conf > > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen "Screen0" LeftOf "Screen1" > Screen "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > RgbPath "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" > ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" > FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > Load "extmod" > Load "record" > Load "dbe" > Load "glx" > Load "GLcore" > Load "xtrap" > Load "dri" > Load "freetype" > Load "type1" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > #DisplaySize 520 330 # mm > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "DEL" > ModelName "DELL 2405FPW" > ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: > HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 > VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > #DisplaySize 520 330 # mm > Identifier "Monitor1" > VendorName "DEL" > ModelName "DELL 2405FPW" > ### Comment all HorizSync and VertRefresh values to use DDC: > HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0 > VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 > Option "DPMS" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "SWcursor" # [] > #Option "HWcursor" # [] > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "ShadowFB" # [] > #Option "UseFBDev" # [] > #Option "Rotate" # [] > #Option "VideoKey" # > #Option "FlatPanel" # [] > #Option "FPDither" # [] > #Option "CrtcNumber" # > #Option "FPScale" # [] > #Option "FPTweak" # > #Option "DualHead" # [] > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nv" > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > BoardName "NV41GL [Quadro FX 1400]" > BusID "PCI:5:0:0" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen1" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor1" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > EndSubSection > EndSection > > > # X -config xorg.conf.multi > > X.Org X Server 1.4.0 > Release Date: 5 September 2007 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE amd64 > Current Operating System: FreeBSD iseasa.gddsn.org.cn 7.0-PRERELEASE > FreeBSD 7.0-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Jan 11 02:33:37 CST 2008 > root@iseasa.gddsn.org.cn:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/IBM01 amd64 > Build Date: 11 January 2008 04:35:47AM > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Module Loader present > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed Jan 16 17:26:47 2008 > (++) Using config file: "xorg.conf.multi" > (WW) NV: More than one matching Device section for instances > (BusID: PCI:5:0:0) found: Card0 > (II) Module "i2c" already built-in > (II) Module "ddc" already built-in > (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 10. Server aborting > > Abort (core dumped) > > #gdb -c Xorg.core /usr/local/bin/X > GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] > Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. > GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are > welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain > conditions. > Type "show copying" to see the conditions. > There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. > This GDB was configured as "amd64-marcel-freebsd"...(no debugging > symbols found)... > > warning: core file may not match specified executable file. > Core was generated by `Xorg'. > Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXfont.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfontenc.so.1 > Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.4 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpixman-1.so.9 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libhal.so.1 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdbus-1.so.3 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 > Reading symbols from /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.4...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/librpcsvc.so.4 > Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.5 > Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.7...(no debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.7 > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libxtrap.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libxtrap.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libdrm.so.2 > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so...(no debugging > symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libfreetype.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/fonts//libtype1.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nv_drv.so > Reading symbols from > /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libvgahw.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so > Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so...(no > debugging symbols found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules//libxaa.so > Reading symbols from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1...(no debugging symbols > found)...done. > Loaded symbols for /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > #0 0x00000008018359dc in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 Have you been able to do something about this? I see frequent Xorg crashes. Sometimes when I'm working on :1 the screen gets black and :0 dies with all it's programs (:0 is fine!). I have a geforce 6600GT and use the latest nvidia blob from ports for dual head dual X setup. Here is some more backtrace. How do I get debugging symbols into the other libs and the Xorg executable? % sudo gdb -c /Xorg.core /usr/local/bin/Xorg GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] [snip] (gdb) bt #0 0x2855d017 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.7 #1 0x2855cf76 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.7 #2 0x2855bb8a in abort () from /lib/libc.so.7 #3 0x080a1e4d in ddxGiveUp () #4 0x081b2028 in FreeAuditTimer () #5 0x081b2576 in AuditF () #6 0x080bf783 in xf86SigHandler () #7 #8 0x293191b4 in _nv000373X () from /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia #9 0x2a573480 in ?? () #9 0x2a573480 in ?? () #10 0x28624400 in ?? () #11 0xbfbfe904 in ?? () #12 0xbfbfe908 in ?? () #13 0x081d5dd0 in ?? () #14 0x28653170 in ?? () #15 0xbfbfe918 in ?? () #16 0x081640b0 in DamageExtensionInit () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) - Skalla From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 19:17:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AACA1065674 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDE48FC23 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:17:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0JXH000V79LU71D0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:17:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.173.59]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0JXH00DKN9LS7SW0@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:17:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:17:51 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080309201751.5d77e2b6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <200803091714.m29HEYBc077132@lurza.secnetix.de> References: <20080306230625.5c6df098.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <200803091714.m29HEYBc077132@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:17:56 -0000 On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:14:34 +0100 (CET) Oliver Fromme wrote: > Why use dyndns.org? Your IPv6 address isn't dynamic. You are correct, of course. It shows that l I haven't got my head around the whole ipv6 issue, right? > My home ISP doesn't support native IPv6 yet (though they > say they're working on it), but they host a SixXS node, > so I registered with sixxs.org. (Everybody can register > with them, even if your ISP doesn't have its own node.) > Once you have registered, you can request a tunnel, and > then you can get a static /64 subnet assigned, including > reverse DNS delegation. Works fine for me. I wonder: does this tunnel thing work even if you have a dynamic ip on the public side of your broadband modem / router? I my case, my FreeBSD gateway and firewall sits behind the broadband router, and have private ip's on both interaces (internal and external). Do I need a public ip on my gateway in order to use a tunnel? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 20:10:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8023106567D for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devel@support.netroad.ru) Received: from mail.netroad.ru (mail.netroad.ru [83.234.224.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719CA8FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from devel@support.netroad.ru) Received: by mail.netroad.ru (Postfix, from userid 65534) id C7C1114AC97; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:46:21 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail.netroad.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.netroad.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C6014A48A for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:46:21 +0300 (MSK) Received: from support.netroad.ru (support.netroad.ru [83.234.224.5]) by mail.netroad.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EE314A3FF for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:46:21 +0300 (MSK) Received: by support.netroad.ru (Postfix, from userid 999) id 1FFFB25621A; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:46:21 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:46:21 +0300 From: Lenar Tukhvatullin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080309194620.GA48035@support.netroad.ru> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-AntiVirus: ClamAV at mail.netroad.ru Subject: How to build profiled libraries on RELENG_7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:10:33 -0000 I need profiled versions of system libraries. I put WITHOUT_PROFILE=NO in /etc/src.conf (/etc/make.conf not present) With fresh source tree (RELENG_7 cvsup'ed today) i do: make buildworld && make DESTDIR=/usr/test installworld but can't find profiled libraries in /usr/test/usr/lib (libc_p.* for example) How to build profiled libraries correctly? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 20:21:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC71A106566B for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:21:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2519E8FC24 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m29KLcKe084475; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:21:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m29KLcAW084474; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:21:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:21:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803092021.m29KLcAW084474@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no In-Reply-To: <20080309201751.5d77e2b6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:21:39 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:21:43 -0000 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > Why use dyndns.org? Your IPv6 address isn't dynamic. > > You are correct, of course. > It shows that l I haven't got my head around the > whole ipv6 issue, right? Well, if you've never worked with IPv6 before, it takes a little time to get used to it. It took me a little time, too, and I certainly don't know everything about IPV6 yet. > > My home ISP doesn't support native IPv6 yet (though they > > say they're working on it), but they host a SixXS node, > > so I registered with sixxs.org. (Everybody can register > > with them, even if your ISP doesn't have its own node.) > > Once you have registered, you can request a tunnel, and > > then you can get a static /64 subnet assigned, including > > reverse DNS delegation. Works fine for me. > > I wonder: does this tunnel thing work even if you have a dynamic ip on > the public side of your broadband modem / router? Yes, it does. In fact I _do_ have a dynamic IP (v4). I have a normal DSL line at home, with a dynamic IPv4 address assigned by my ISP. When I re-dial, I usually get a different IPv4 address. That doesn't affect the IPv6 tunnel at all, though. My static v6 subnet is routed to me on my dynamic v4 address (using a gif(4) interface). The sixxs.org people provide a small utility (it's in the ports collection, too) that sets up the tunnel and everything automatically. You only need to configure the address of the sixxs node that you connect to (i.e. the other end of your tunnel). Of course, there are other ways to get IPv6 connectivity. I chose sixxs.org because my ISP hosts one of their nodes, so connectivity is very good. If you're lucky, your ISP provides native IPv6. Only few do right now, but the number is constantly growing. > I my case, my FreeBSD gateway and firewall sits behind the broadband > router, and have private ip's on both interaces (internal and external). > Do I need a public ip on my gateway in order to use a tunnel? In my case, my FreeBSD gateway and firewall _is_ my DSL router. I don't have an external router box, only the DSL modem. Well, maybe the DSL modem could be used as a router, I don't know, for me it's working as a modem only. My FreeBSD gateway machine has a public, dynamic IP address. I think in your situation there would be two options: First, disable the routing and NAT functionality on your DSL box, and do the routing/NAT on your FreeBSD machine, if possible (like I do). The second option would be to use a protocol called AYIYA which can be used to establish a tunnel even behind one or multiple NAT routers. This is supported by SixXs: http://www.sixxs.net/tools/ayiya/ Basically, everyone can have IPv6 connectivity. There is no excuse. ;-) Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "The most important decision in [programming] language design concerns what is to be left out." -- Niklaus Wirth From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 20:22:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507AF1065670 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C6D8FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:22:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88F631CC068; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 13:22:19 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080309202219.GA26872@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <20080309194620.GA48035@support.netroad.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080309194620.GA48035@support.netroad.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Subject: Re: How to build profiled libraries on RELENG_7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:22:20 -0000 On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:46:21PM +0300, Lenar Tukhvatullin wrote: > I need profiled versions of system libraries. > > I put WITHOUT_PROFILE=NO in /etc/src.conf (/etc/make.conf not present) A couple things: The value you pass to WITH/WITHOUT/NO variables in src.conf(5) or make.conf(5) rarely has purpose. The make.conf(5) manpage documents this fact: The following lists provide a name and short description for each vari- able you can use during the indicated builds. The values of variables flagged as bool are ignored; the variable being set at all (even to ``FALSE'' or ``NO'') causes it to be treated as if it were set. Thus, the following lines are all synonymous in functionality (disabling profiled libraries): WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes WITHOUT_PROFILE=true WITHOUT_PROFILE=no WITHOUT_PROFILE=aphuvudet WITHOUT_PROFILE="the ape is watching" However... I don't quite understand the profiling framework for src/. There are numerous variables referenced, such as MK_PROFILE, and I also see a couple references to NO_PROFILE (which should be a RELENG_6 and below thing?). I also see this in src/Makefile.inc1, which makes me wonder if profiling support is broken altogether: 391 _libraries: 392 @echo 393 @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" 394 @echo ">>> stage 4.2: building libraries" 395 @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" 396 ${_+_}cd ${.CURDIR}; \ 397 ${WMAKE} -DNO_FSCHG -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO -DNO_LINT \ 398 -DWITHOUT_MAN -DWITHOUT_NLS -DWITHOUT_PROFILE libraries Note the unconditional use of the -DWITHOUT_PROFILE flag. Anyone familiar with this framework who can comment on what the state of things is? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 20:23:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7671065672 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from tensor.andric.com (cl-327.ede-01.nl.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:7b8:2ff:146::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F788FC1A for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:23:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:2d03:e9b6:b0fa:452c] (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:2d03:e9b6:b0fa:452c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1223E for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:23:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47D4472C.6080602@andric.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:23:08 +0100 From: Dimitry Andric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Windows/20080308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20080309194620.GA48035@support.netroad.ru> In-Reply-To: <20080309194620.GA48035@support.netroad.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: How to build profiled libraries on RELENG_7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 20:23:07 -0000 On 2008-03-09 20:46, Lenar Tukhvatullin wrote: > I need profiled versions of system libraries. > > I put WITHOUT_PROFILE=NO in /etc/src.conf (/etc/make.conf not present) This is incorrect, read src.conf(5): The values of variables are ignored regardless of their setting; even if they would be set to ``FALSE'' or ``NO''. Just the existence of an option will cause it to be honoured by make(1). So, do NOT specify the WITHOUT_PROFILE option anywhere, and you should get profiled libs. :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 21:11:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036461065678; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com (relay03.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C558FC1A; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:11:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from [212.82.216.226] (helo=skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JYSn8-0004yt-To; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:10:55 +0200 Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m29LARMu036643 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:10:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m29LADPq060303; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:10:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m29LA9YY060302; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:10:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:10:09 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20080309211009.GD10374@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <200803071059.48837.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200803070913.12978.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sXc4Kmr5FA7axrvy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803070913.12978.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Scanner-Signature: a96565856d7d777f03ae631b61e05b17 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: kostikbel@gmail.com X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2374 [Mar 9 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release Cc: Vincent Mialon , tech@gitoyen.net, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:11:02 -0000 --sXc4Kmr5FA7axrvy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 09:13:12AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 06 March 2008 07:29:40 pm Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Vincent Mialon wrote: > > > I tested various options in boot0cfg with no sucess. I also tested > > > the howto from > > > http://typo.submonkey.net/articles/2006/04/13/installing-freebsd-on-u > > >sb-stick-episode-2 with a 6.3 FreeBSD release which boots on my pc but > > > doesn't boot on my supermicro server. > > > > > > Do you have any idea or pointer that may help me find the way to boot > > > this usb drive ? I may file a bug report if you want. > > > > I wanted to make a USB flash drive based installer for FreeBSD but > > unfortunately BTX seems to have issues that make it difficult to do > > reliably :( > > > > Here are 2 patches I tried.. > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/realbtx > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/btx_crx.patch >=20 > Try this instead: >=20 > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/btx_real.patch >=20 > (btx_crx has been in the base system for a while FWIW). This is somewhat= =20 > similar to kib's patch but fixes at least one bug I found in kib's patch = (and=20 > uses some slightly different approaches in a few places). I updated the realbtx patch with the fix for the bug John pointed out. Most likely, this patch is going to be dropped due to John' work, but let it die without bugs. http://people.freebsd.org/~kib/realbtx/realbtx.3.patch Also, I updated loader etc. binaries on the site. --sXc4Kmr5FA7axrvy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfUUjAACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4hmsQCfVmnAwIcWVMdDCbYcJCTgBqMs QT4AoKuPY9/1f/z26Fysk/WidQ8sEuFG =EHdL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sXc4Kmr5FA7axrvy-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 21:19:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B27B106566B for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:19:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from tomjudge.vm.bytemark.co.uk (tomjudge.vm.bytemark.co.uk [80.68.91.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08098FC15 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:19:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tom@tomjudge.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tomjudge.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898D93422E; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:19:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tomjudge.vm.bytemark.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tomjudge.vm.bytemark.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A1lK8p-sC-UC; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:19:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.255.6] (unknown [192.168.255.6]) by tomjudge.vm.bytemark.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A7C34221; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:19:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47D45453.5020100@tomjudge.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:19:15 -0500 From: Tom Judge User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: d@delphij.net References: <47D1668E.1070007@tomjudge.com> <47D1D2F2.6070204@delphij.net> In-Reply-To: <47D1D2F2.6070204@delphij.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "David E. O'Brien" Subject: Re: RELENG_7_0 buildworld failure on read only source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:19:04 -0000 Xin LI wrote: > Tom Judge wrote: >> Hi, >> >> We have been building RELENG_6_x source trees from read only NFS file >> systems for well over a year now with out any problems. However I >> have just tried to do "make buildworld" on a RELENG_7_0 source tree >> from yesterday and it failed to build with the following error: >> > [error snipped] >> >> Should it be possible to build RELENG_7_0 with a read only source tree? > > This can be worked around, I think touching the Makefile would do the > trick. IIRC David (cc'ed) has fixed the Makefile at some point this > January while he is updating the base cvs(1) for this exact issue, maybe > we should MFC the changeset to RELENG_7? > > Cheers, Thanks for the response, it was indeed just a case of touching /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/contrib/Makefile. Do you have the information about the relevent change sets that fix this? Then I can merge this fix to my local tree. Thanks Tom From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 21:26:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D2C106566C for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from mail.cksoft.de (mail.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A5E8FC1D for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CE941C795; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:26:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cksoft.de Received: from mail.cksoft.de ([62.111.66.27]) by localhost (amavis.str.cksoft.de [192.168.74.71]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tgqsejxv0jfz; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:26:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id B458941C770; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:26:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net (maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net [10.111.66.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0168F44487F; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:26:00 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net To: Tom Judge In-Reply-To: <47D45453.5020100@tomjudge.com> Message-ID: <20080309212353.J50685@maildrop.int.zabbadoz.net> References: <47D1668E.1070007@tomjudge.com> <47D1D2F2.6070204@delphij.net> <47D45453.5020100@tomjudge.com> X-OpenPGP-Key: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, d@delphij.net, "David E. O'Brien" Subject: Re: RELENG_7_0 buildworld failure on read only source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:26:09 -0000 On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Tom Judge wrote: > Xin LI wrote: >> Tom Judge wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> We have been building RELENG_6_x source trees from read only NFS file >>> systems for well over a year now with out any problems. However I have >>> just tried to do "make buildworld" on a RELENG_7_0 source tree from >>> yesterday and it failed to build with the following error: >>> >> [error snipped] >>> >>> Should it be possible to build RELENG_7_0 with a read only source tree? >> >> This can be worked around, I think touching the Makefile would do the >> trick. IIRC David (cc'ed) has fixed the Makefile at some point this >> January while he is updating the base cvs(1) for this exact issue, maybe we >> should MFC the changeset to RELENG_7? >> >> Cheers, > > > Thanks for the response, it was indeed just a case of touching > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/contrib/Makefile. Do you have the information about > the relevent change sets that fix this? Then I can merge this fix to my > local tree. I think it was this change: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200801130945.m0D9jsgf040114 -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT Software is harder than hardware so better get it right the first time. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 21:44:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044DE106566B for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:44:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from queueout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (queueout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4D48FC17 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:44:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scott@fishballoon.org) Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080309212551.FIGZ27871.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:25:51 +0000 Received: from llama.fishballoon.org ([81.101.131.46]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20080309212630.CBVQ219.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@llama.fishballoon.org> for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:26:30 +0000 Received: from scott by llama.fishballoon.org with local (Exim 4.66 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JYSzM-000Oxn-0x for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:23:24 +0000 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:23:23 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080309212322.GA93340@llama.fishballoon.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE-p9 i386 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: Scott Mitchell Subject: OpenOffice.org package for 7.0/i386? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:44:36 -0000 Hi all, Does anyone know where I can find an OpenOffice.org package for 7.0R on i386? I can only find amd64 packages on ftp.freebsd.org and good-day.net. I will try building it myself but I'm stuck on an old machine with limited RAM at the moment, I don't think I've ever had an oo.org build succeed on this box... :-( Thanks, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID | "Eagles may soar, but weasels Cambridge, England | 0x54B171B9 | don't get sucked into jet engines" scott at fishballoon.org | 0xAA775B8B | -- Anon From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 9 23:41:56 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8481065671 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=f3dc634b5d6d05a41cec9c9d08babc83d465a512=635=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:14:3::6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D46DA8FC16 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:41:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=f3dc634b5d6d05a41cec9c9d08babc83d465a512=635=es.net=oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id PAY90551; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:41:51 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id CB8044500F; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:41:51 -0700 (PDT) To: JoaoBR In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:19:33 -0300." <200803062019.33435.joao@matik.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1205106111_51045P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:41:51 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20080309234151.CB8044500F@ptavv.es.net> X-Sender-IP: 198.128.4.29 X-Sender-Domain: es.net X-Recipent: ; ; ; X-Sender: X-To_Name: JoaoBR X-To_Domain: matik.com.br X-To: JoaoBR X-To_Email: joao@matik.com.br X-To_Alias: joao Cc: Peter Jeremy , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:41:56 -0000 --==_Exmh_1205106111_51045P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline > From: JoaoBR > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:19:33 -0300 > > On Thursday 06 March 2008 16:24:08 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Agreed.  But at this stage I can't justify the effort to do anything > > > more than have a very cursory glance it at.  What benefit would I > > > derive from setting up an IPv6 network and attempting to experiment > > > with it?  My ISP won't support IPv6 and I'm reasonably certain my > > > cable-modem doesn't either so IPv6 connectivity would entail some > > > sort of tunnel. > > > > You don't set up an IPv6 network. You simply have end nodes that will > > use IPv6 when/if it is available by just making a one-line change in > > rc.conf as opposed to a kernel re-build. > > > > If you have a Windows Vista box (and I'm told several people do, even > > though I have never used one), it has IPv6, it is always enabled, and it > > REALLY, REALLY tries to use it using several mechanisms including Toredo > > tunnels (which are either very cool or the spawn of Satan, depending on > > who you talk to). > > eventually this few lines show why this thread goes so far ... > > your computer will or better CAN use ipv6 when it is on a ipv6 network and > nothing else, ipv6 WILL NOT come eventually available on your ipv4 network > (unless it's address space change ...) I'm unclear on the last sentence. I can assure you that IPv6 WILL come to your IPv4 network. It's not 'if' but 'when'. I am regularly amazed to see the number of people who bury their heads in the sand and claim it won't. > this has nothing to do with vista or dawn, this is a routing issue and > as long as you are NOT on a ipv6 network you do NOT need ipv6 on our > machine, still beeing able to access ipv6 networks ... as weel as ipv6 > networls can access ipv4 networlks guys, if not so all this ipv[4|6] > stuff wouldn't make any sense ... Whether you need to or not, you WILL have it if you run Vista. Read up on Teredo tunnels. You can turn this off on Vista, but it is on by default and every Vista system not configured to turn it off WILL run IPv6 regardless of what network it is connected to. Whether you need IPv6 is debatable. If you want to see the Kame dancing turtle, you will need IPv6. There are a very few specialized locations that are IPv6-only, but they are of little or no general interest. None the less, if you have Vista up and running or FreeBSD with the appropriate setup (6to4), your can reach them even if your network connection is IPv4 only. I'm afraid I couldn't parse the latter part of this paragraph. (Still, your English is far better than my Portuguese.) > as long as you talk in endpoints you also can access any rfc1918 address as > long as you have some setup (VPN?) for that, so what you say here is not > exactly true, either for windows nor for unix, the OS at the end has > absolutelty NOTHING to do with ipv6 neither with ipv4 ... > > so final point here is that you need ipv6 on your machine when you are > on a ipv6 network or want by any means connect directly to a remote > ipv6 endpoint, similare as you do a VPN connection to a rfc1918 > network wether this are tunnels or whatever provided by either satans > or daemons ... Please learn a bit about IPv6 and modern implementations of tunnels before making assertions about how networks have to work. FWIW, I run a full production IPv6 network and have been working with IPv6 since it was still being developed by the IETF. It's far from perfect and, in fact, I am quite disappointed on how it came out, but it is what it is and, as of today, it is the only game in town that can move us to beyond the end of IPv4 address space availability. Live with it or live in the expensive past. (IPv4 addresses will soon get very expensive as the supply runs out.) -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 --==_Exmh_1205106111_51045P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 06/03/2002 iD8DBQFH1HW/kn3rs5h7N1ERAkbnAKCuhfbAbilAqyItMVo5LVUy2YIADACeKFWI Qw0BbDibfa9T1p8DaCKe91s= =EkOk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1205106111_51045P-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 00:45:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AA7106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6155C8FC22 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (ppp121-45-46-4.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net [121.45.46.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2A0iu0E070298 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:15:03 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:14:29 +1030 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080309140703.a18c53a6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20080309140703.a18c53a6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8609578.z110PHoxNM"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200803101114.31425.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -2.212 () BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 203.31.81.10 Cc: Torfinn Ingolfsen Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:45:10 -0000 --nextPart8609578.z110PHoxNM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I > > don't use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). > > I used 'fdisk -B da0' to install /boot/mbr to the disk for testing. > When I now boot the disk on the Acer laptop, it just displays one > register dump followed by "BTX halted". You need to re-install the bootblocks (bsdlabel) and the loader (I think=20 you can just cp it into /boot after rebuilding it). =2D-=20 Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C --nextPart8609578.z110PHoxNM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBH1IRv5ZPcIHs/zowRAituAJ9uoTxyRDavpyrLxHmmCrmDCGCB6gCdH+xg L7zlz0bVxKO4ePrYkSHQquI= =v4Rg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8609578.z110PHoxNM-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 05:13:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E801106566C for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@vintners.net) Received: from vinifera.vintners.net (vinifera.vintners.net [207.229.65.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9988FC13 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:13:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@vintners.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (brix.vintners.net [209.162.136.18]) by vinifera.vintners.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2A4sDQT091982 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@vintners.net) Message-ID: <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:53:21 -0700 From: Mike Lempriere User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> In-Reply-To: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-46.3 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, MISSING_HEADERS, RGX_BDY_LOCAL_AREA_CODE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on vinifera.vintners.net Subject: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:13:47 -0000 I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? -- Mike Lempriere- Home: mike@vintners.net Phone: 206-780-2146 Cellphone: 206-200-5902; text pager: mlemp@tmail.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 06:36:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FC71065676 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFDB8FC20 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:36:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so533025anc.13 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.171.10 with SMTP id t10mr10431908ane.100.1205131003920; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.8.6 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:36:43 -0800 From: "Peter Wemm" To: "Mike Lempriere" In-Reply-To: <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:36:45 -0000 On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: > I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating > this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? I for one would like this too. On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email addresses, but there is an easy way around that. What you do is subscribe twice, and go to the options page and turn off email for one of them. That way you can (for example) email with your normal address and receive email from the list on unique addresses for sorting or whatever. We do this on other lists for freebsd.org. However, we need to have mailman be a little smarter about it. Right now, it holds the messages for moderation. Instead, it needs to immediately bounce the email with instructions about what to do. Otherwise we have the situation where somebody emails and gets i the queue, then sends with the right address and it goes through. Later on, the message is approved and we get a duplicate on the list. -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 09:17:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE3C1065673 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from cascavel.ensmp.fr (cascavel.ensmp.fr [194.214.158.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63388FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:17:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from [10.3.5.5] (minho [10.3.5.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by cascavel.ensmp.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/JMMC-23/Mar/2006) with ESMTP id m2A93Z42016758 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:03:35 +0100 (MET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.2 cascavel.ensmp.fr m2A93Z42016758 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ensmp.fr; s=default; t=1205139815; bh=F8pmF1UR64l4fiZh3cKBIt+qiOdduL6RH2dDPcGFHFs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC: Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LTNSy+CUqfnR3MCY8Q9DfJaIzoo7F93W2PnfU YATb1QQId2Srpdji9PIUTXnldnp5/J4uHN24DyyYvsOur2fncG6ZltYeR9GqFxdg+0f yibHxiRZZypWPDtBZ8YIJiwRdSA4R4kzcXlXmPvP8Tm3DrxJ9oGyoco1Fg8VibpzNsU = Message-ID: <47D4F967.2070507@ensmp.fr> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:03:35 +0100 From: Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080208 Fedora/1.1.8-1.fc7 SeaMonkey/1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at cascavel with ID 47D4F967.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 47D4F967.000 on cascavel : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 Cc: Mike Lempriere , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:17:12 -0000 Peter Wemm wrote: > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: >> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating >> this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? > > I for one would like this too. > > On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email > addresses, but there is an easy way around that. What you do is > subscribe twice, and go to the options page and turn off email for one > of them. That way you can (for example) email with your normal > address and receive email from the list on unique addresses for > sorting or whatever. Sympa (http://www.sympa.org) is a mailing list manager which allows you to define all your alternative addresses (in a single subscription). Also it has some number of integrated anti-spam features already integrated or being integrated into it. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 10:41:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF681065671 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:41:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5318FC16 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2034095fka.11 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:40:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=xEU9v4twnDEk/B63h+Xkr/nLWuElDDx0YZ8VbuBviuQ=; b=gNktKWqy9X8KO6cqI8fW6tcbaHfDzcBX/ptzQYtaM8gg+N0Cj9q+4ztV26wUnKR70HXPzwKzDsKI1qHoF1GaIBgOh8gqQct9xHzqVpTIPqO6Mfs69Klrfe3Aq0c5Fhyk69h4KEF5EpRqVhv6VNqtXtfREMzvfd8IJXO6dCVDneU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=V3ABGniTM0Vg1AAoRcnWDkHoBO+gWUpz+h/KNT+eX6Y+3gByOrDSGwBxKmafh6rk5L55HXuGzuMytLJC4LpQfBRmQSFJ3U+a1KIX/fMZFYEGt6CWXUxANbO2CSF5OVgSEsYeyhaiQdO6Iwcu83byihsDbAY6lQhmw8AK1bykuCA= Received: by 10.82.121.15 with SMTP id t15mr12747584buc.8.1205145658914; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [217.206.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t2sm13271662gve.3.2008.03.10.03.40.56 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:40:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: Ross Penner In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-6+/SfnwtNovlIVZFmDIN" Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:40:55 +0000 Message-Id: <1205145655.2126.249.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd segfaults on run - was advised that it's an issue with the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:41:01 -0000 --=-6+/SfnwtNovlIVZFmDIN Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 23:07 -0700, Ross Penner wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I've recently run the upgrade gamut and moved from 6.3 to 7.0. I've > had a few hick ups but this one I can't resolve. I used musicpd > (http://www.freshports.org/audio/musicpd/) on 6.3 to stream to a > shoutcast server. When I start mpd on 7.0, it immediately has a > segmentation fault and dumps its core. >=20 > I discussed the issue in the musicpd irc channel and I was advised > that it seemed like it was an issue with the system, not with musicpd. > Since upgrading to 7.0, I've reinstalled all my ports and since > discovering the problem, I've reinstalled musicpd specifically. The > backtrace from gdb is as follows: >=20 > #0 0x28140b15 in pthread_setcancelstate () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > #1 0x281388ac in open () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > #2 0x286ac269 in __stack_chk_fail () from /lib/libssp.so.0 > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () > #4 0xbfbfe6a8 in ?? () > #5 0x28084ead in _rtld_thread_init () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) >=20 >=20 > Any help or direction I can get to finding the solution to this > problem would be greatly appreciated. musicpd doesn't really like playing with libthr. I find remapping libthr using /etc/libmap.conf is an adequate workaround on 7.0. [/usr/local/bin/mpd] libthr.so.3 libpthread.so.2 FYI, with this setup, mpd plays nicely with icecast on 7.0 Tom --=-6+/SfnwtNovlIVZFmDIN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBH1RAslcRvFfyds/cRAi0eAJ9TQBFcmYAO7j6Yr3W8w+/3He/yVACfRyM+ DzQ7ETA36K03S/eKAdkwvDk= =aZS7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-6+/SfnwtNovlIVZFmDIN-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 12:03:07 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F4C1065724 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:03:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A98BF8FC17 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:03:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2008 12:03:04 -0000 Received: from i538752B4.versanet.de (EHLO tower) [83.135.82.180] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2008 13:03:04 +0100 X-Authenticated: #171259 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19aNO5Vt1taSBBBcfQZfGJd6rVvtKNx2T8UwE7Itx fL/YhqtCKnrTsx From: Mark Nowiasz To: "Denise H. G." Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:03:03 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> <864pbg7x04.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> In-Reply-To: <864pbg7x04.fsf@pluton.xbsd.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803101303.03633.buckaroo@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:03:08 -0000 Am Sonntag, 9. März 2008 16:11:39 schrieb Denise H. G.: > try to write like this: > > add path `pass*` mode 660 Nope, won't do: tower# ls -la /dev/pass0 crw------- 1 root operator 0, 107 Mar 10 12:35 /dev/pass0 > there is no problem with my 7-STABLE/amd64. Well, all the other entries in devfs.rules are correctly applied, for example: add path 'cd*' mode 660 group wheel user mark tower# ls -la /dev/cd* crw-rw---- 1 mark wheel 0, 109 Mar 10 12:35 /dev/cd0 crw-rw---- 1 mark wheel 0, 110 Mar 10 12:35 /dev/cd1 I'ts just that /dev/pass0 is being ignored at startup time... Regards, Mark -- If *I* had a hammer, there'd be no more folk singers. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 12:21:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C363C106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF578FC1A for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:21:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B3746B4B; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:21:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:21:32 +0100 (BST) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Peter Wemm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080310132013.R45443@fledge.watson.org> References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Mike Lempriere , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:21:32 -0000 On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Peter Wemm wrote: > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: >> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating this >> list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? > > I for one would like this too. > > On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email addresses, > but there is an easy way around that. What you do is subscribe twice, and > go to the options page and turn off email for one of them. That way you can > (for example) email with your normal address and receive email from the list > on unique addresses for sorting or whatever. > > We do this on other lists for freebsd.org. However, we need to have mailman > be a little smarter about it. Right now, it holds the messages for > moderation. Instead, it needs to immediately bounce the email with > instructions about what to do. Otherwise we have the situation where > somebody emails and gets i the queue, then sends with the right address and > it goes through. Later on, the message is approved and we get a duplicate on > the list. If we're going to go that route, what I'd like to see is a message-free freebsd-posters list I can join once using a posting address that is then authorized to post to any list. That way I don't have to talk the 80+ mailing lists and re-subscribe to each one a second time, disabling receipt of messages, etc. This would also allow us to expempt things like gnats, etc, easily. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 12:31:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E231E1065672 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from msrv.matik.com.br (msrv.matik.com.br [200.152.83.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788688FC14 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) Received: from anb.p.matik.com.br (anb.p.matik.com.br [200.152.83.34] (may be forged)) by msrv.matik.com.br (8.14.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m2ACVdVR050228; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:31:39 -0300 (BRT) (envelope-from joao@matik.com.br) From: JoaoBR Organization: Infomatik To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:31:15 -0300 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080309234151.CB8044500F@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20080309234151.CB8044500F@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803100931.15596.joao@matik.com.br> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on msrv.matik.com.br X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:31:44 -0000 On Sunday 09 March 2008 20:41:51 Kevin Oberman wrote: > > From: JoaoBR > > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:19:33 -0300 > > > > your computer will or better CAN use ipv6 when it is on a ipv6 network > > and nothing else, ipv6 WILL NOT come eventually available on your ipv4 > > network (unless it's address space change ...) > > I'm unclear on the last sentence. I can assure you that IPv6 WILL come > to your IPv4 network. It's not 'if' but 'when'. I am regularly amazed to > see the number of people who bury their heads in the sand and claim it > won't. > Hi I am not saying that ipv6 is not coming but I am saying that as long as you= r=20 network is ipv4 you do not need to care > > this has nothing to do with vista or dawn, this is a routing issue and > > as long as you are NOT on a ipv6 network you do NOT need ipv6 on our > > machine, still beeing able to access ipv6 networks ... as weel as ipv6 > > networls can access ipv4 networlks guys, if not so all this ipv[4|6] > > stuff wouldn't make any sense ... > > Whether you need to or not, you WILL have it if you run Vista. Read up > on Teredo tunnels. You can turn this off on Vista, but it is on by > default and every Vista system not configured to turn it off WILL run > IPv6 regardless of what network it is connected to. well, fedora and FreeBSD also but you do not need it, windows does install= =20 netbeui netbios and simlare things by default which you do not neeed either= =20 on the internet and probably will disable or uninstall them > > Whether you need IPv6 is debatable. If you want to see the Kame dancing > turtle, you will need IPv6. There are a very few specialized locations > that are IPv6-only, but they are of little or no general interest. None > the less, if you have Vista up and running or FreeBSD with the > appropriate setup (6to4), your can reach them even if your network > connection is IPv4 only. I am not sure if this correct, ipv4 to ipv6 and viceversa is be done by TRT= =20 (RFC3142) routers which are supposed to run on the border of such networks = or=20 by whom provides both protocols, as enduser you do not need to care about=20 connectivity to each protocol=20 > > I'm afraid I couldn't parse the latter part of this paragraph. (Still, > your English is far better than my Portuguese.) :) then let's stay with it=20 I think it is very easy, you need ipv6 when you are on or connected to an i= pv6=20 network, otherwise not > > FWIW, I run a full production IPv6 network and have been working with > IPv6 since it was still being developed by the IETF. It's far from > perfect and, in fact, I am quite disappointed on how it came out, but it > is what it is and, as of today, it is the only game in town that can > move us to beyond the end of IPv4 address space availability. Live with > it or live in the expensive past. (IPv4 addresses will soon get > very expensive as the supply runs out.) well, I guess the question is not if it works or not but when and where you= =20 need it =2D-=20 Jo=E3o A mensagem foi scaneada pelo sistema de e-mail e pode ser considerada segura. Service fornecido pelo Datacenter Matik https://datacenter.matik.com.br From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 12:38:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FAC4106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from cascavel.ensmp.fr (cascavel.ensmp.fr [194.214.158.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B7C8FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:38:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from [10.3.5.5] (minho [10.3.5.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by cascavel.ensmp.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/JMMC-23/Mar/2006) with ESMTP id m2ACbxdB018004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:37:59 +0100 (MET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.2 cascavel.ensmp.fr m2ACbxdB018004 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ensmp.fr; s=default; t=1205152679; bh=wCLzJbBirGCpTt7Q3Sq6qqkjMzLvOmBB3a93xlQregM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC: Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=pkjwYGF/BQNAn3VZcd2rogX4YSHX0Lxw0rYgk fyunV1Q7A25YYtu2EFQhIy8QaeD8vNBqpkzdYXsQCmhroE3QmB3V5MNMKwwIPI6tf0k PnFjibhhXt7R3hPIFVRHpfvpeERXJ6+8/VoDB790e5nGZQLuK8jeb/ojyr73oHerqBs = Message-ID: <47D52BA7.3030904@ensmp.fr> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:37:59 +0100 From: Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080208 Fedora/1.1.8-1.fc7 SeaMonkey/1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: aumont References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> <20080310132013.R45443@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20080310132013.R45443@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Miltered: at cascavel with ID 47D52BA7.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 47D52BA7.001 on cascavel : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:38:02 -0000 Ooooooppssssss... La discussion fait rage. Mais sa suggestion n'est pas interessante ? Avoir un nombre de listes pour lesquelles on peut poster à partir du moment où l'on existe dans des bases ? Ceci peut être interessant, pour eux, mais pour nous à l'ecole des mines et pour d'autres aussi. Actuellement, nous avons un tas de listes intranet (tous_paris, tous...) et on peut poster à partir du moment où l'expéditeur est dans le domaine ensmp.fr, mais on n'empeche pas l'usurpation d'adresse bidon. Si vous avez la possibilité de faire un truc du genre... Robert Watson wrote: > On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Peter Wemm wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: >>> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of >>> moderating this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? >> >> I for one would like this too. >> >> On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email >> addresses, but there is an easy way around that. What you do is >> subscribe twice, and go to the options page and turn off email for one >> of them. That way you can (for example) email with your normal >> address and receive email from the list on unique addresses for >> sorting or whatever. >> >> We do this on other lists for freebsd.org. However, we need to have >> mailman be a little smarter about it. Right now, it holds the >> messages for moderation. Instead, it needs to immediately bounce the >> email with instructions about what to do. Otherwise we have the >> situation where somebody emails and gets i the queue, then sends with >> the right address and it goes through. Later on, the message is >> approved and we get a duplicate on the list. > > If we're going to go that route, what I'd like to see is a message-free > freebsd-posters list I can join once using a posting address that is > then authorized to post to any list. That way I don't have to talk the > 80+ mailing lists and re-subscribe to each one a second time, disabling > receipt of messages, etc. This would also allow us to expempt things > like gnats, etc, easily. > > Robert N M Watson > Computer Laboratory > University of Cambridge > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Marcio MARTINS DA CRUZ http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr Ecole des Mines de Paris 60, bd Saint Michel 75272 - PARIS CEDEX 06 mailto:Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 13:33:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B3D106566C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDBA8FC22; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:33:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2ADXbDu024161; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2ADXb0L024160; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:37 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803101333.m2ADXb0L024160@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, rwatson@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@wemm.org In-Reply-To: <20080310132013.R45443@fledge.watson.org> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:42 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:33:44 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Peter Wemm wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: > > > I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating this > > > list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? > > > > I for one would like this too. > > > > On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email addresses, > > but there is an easy way around that. What you do is subscribe twice, and > > go to the options page and turn off email for one of them. That way you can > > (for example) email with your normal address and receive email from the list > > on unique addresses for sorting or whatever. > > > > We do this on other lists for freebsd.org. However, we need to have mailman > > be a little smarter about it. Right now, it holds the messages for > > moderation. Instead, it needs to immediately bounce the email with > > instructions about what to do. Otherwise we have the situation where > > somebody emails and gets i the queue, then sends with the right address and > > it goes through. Later on, the message is approved and we get a duplicate on > > the list. > > If we're going to go that route, what I'd like to see is a message-free > freebsd-posters list I can join once using a posting address that is then > authorized to post to any list. Yes, please. I'm not subsribed to the lists because I'm reading them through a one-way NNTP gateway ( and I guess I'm not the only one). I certainly wouldn't want to manage several dozens subscriptions just to be able to post to the lists. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 14:06:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7E0106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3843B8FC13 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2008 14:06:41 -0000 Received: from i538752B4.versanet.de (EHLO tower) [83.135.82.180] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2008 15:06:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #171259 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19KZ1J9xLNKA+sa0qMofb2fP4j9OjUO8PPCIKNCM6 cXqwTquvTBBEyO From: Mark Nowiasz To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:06:39 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> <200803101303.03633.buckaroo@gmx.de> <3a142e750803100659s1fea54e9xabbd8fa0e0be9e49@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750803100659s1fea54e9xabbd8fa0e0be9e49@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803101506.39452.buckaroo@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:06:42 -0000 Am Montag, 10. März 2008 14:59:17 schrieb Paul B. Mahol: > What's output of etc/devfs.conf ? own speaker root:wheel perm speaker 0660 perm /dev/cuaa1 0666 own cd0 mark:wheel perm cd0 0666 own cd1 mark:wheel perm cd1 0666 perm xpt0 0666 own pass0 mark:wheel perm pass0 0666 own pass1 mark:wheel perm pass1 0666 own da0 mark:wheel perm da0 0660 perm devstat 0444 devfs.rules will be applied during boot time (please not the different permission: for example cd0/1: 0666 in devfs.conf, 0600 in devfs.rules, cd0/1 have got 0600 permissions), just the last entry (add path 'pass*' mode 660 group wheel user mark) will be ignored - but only at boot time, when restarting devfs, pass0/1 will have the correct permissions/ownership. Regards, Mark -- If *I* had a hammer, there'd be no more folk singers. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 14:23:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40ADF106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0909C8FC13 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:23:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so883023ele.12 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:23:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pKX5er8de5NLHmB4kcF9jnljZKLSok7YilMlPdalU0Y=; b=yBuiXj1rTZ3LJgMNzPuarbVFs7/iw5/aFOtmOO26op1F9OhoQMTyaXrSRSGeedeu7WbOY5U0/ESQF2iC+1F4O8IGTnNPZ5dmKf6YqHoFxt+HWHiIb4qYQO0+R86CnslpEQqO6j4DmILl3GfQs4RaaDjpaRZW9MORiD9NJU5pHTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oTZV97L60BcmvNjXOiCLMMU7CL3UwFnN49WfOEXc6ISIMKZGfL270niQHkXu2nlj5jF6a/bY7IwL6sifJhOaiB7WJURDtOetAM8Shi44rP2XUnOfpWHdjU6a52oGIjl+6VHryAPLO2d5LmOU+yZ0U0P2YSD9AQvOwe7CMLrJc0w= Received: by 10.142.237.20 with SMTP id k20mr1636106wfh.174.1205157557314; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.178.11 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3a142e750803100659s1fea54e9xabbd8fa0e0be9e49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:59:17 +0100 From: "Paul B. 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Mahol" To: "Mark Nowiasz" In-Reply-To: <200803101506.39452.buckaroo@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> <200803101303.03633.buckaroo@gmx.de> <3a142e750803100659s1fea54e9xabbd8fa0e0be9e49@mail.gmail.com> <200803101506.39452.buckaroo@gmx.de> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:24:03 -0000 SSBjb3VsZCBub3QgcmVwcm9kdWNlIGl0IG9uIGkzODYuCkkgbW92ZWQgcGFzcyBlbnRyeSBpbiBk ZXZmcy5ydWxlcyBvbiBsYXN0IGxpbmUgYW5kIGNvbW1lbnRlZCBwYXNzCmVudHJ5IGluIGRldmZz LmNvbmYgYW5kIHJlYm9vdGVkLgpDb3VsZCB5b3UgcGxhY2UgcGFzczAvKiBlbnRyeSBpbiBub25s YXN0IGxpbmUgb2YgZGV2ZnMucnVsZXMgYW5kIGZpbmQKYW55IGRpZmZlcmVuY2UuCgpPbiAzLzEw LzA4LCBNYXJrIE5vd2lhc3ogPGJ1Y2thcm9vQGdteC5kZT4gd3JvdGU6Cj4gQW0gTW9udGFnLCAx MC4gTcOkcnogMjAwOCAxNDo1OToxNyBzY2hyaWViIFBhdWwgQi4gTWFob2w6Cj4gPiBXaGF0J3Mg b3V0cHV0IG9mIGV0Yy9kZXZmcy5jb25mID8KPgo+IG93biAgICAgc3BlYWtlciByb290OndoZWVs Cj4gcGVybSAgICBzcGVha2VyIDA2NjAKPiBwZXJtICAgIC9kZXYvY3VhYTEgICAgICAwNjY2Cj4K PiBvd24gICAgIGNkMCAgICAgbWFyazp3aGVlbAo+IHBlcm0gICAgY2QwICAgICAwNjY2Cj4KPiBv d24gICAgIGNkMSAgICAgbWFyazp3aGVlbAo+IHBlcm0gICAgY2QxICAgICAwNjY2Cj4gcGVybSAg ICB4cHQwICAgIDA2NjYKPgo+IG93biAgICAgcGFzczAgICBtYXJrOndoZWVsCj4gcGVybSAgICBw YXNzMCAgIDA2NjYKPgo+IG93biAgICAgcGFzczEgICBtYXJrOndoZWVsCj4gcGVybSAgICBwYXNz MSAgIDA2NjYKPgo+IG93biAgICAgZGEwICAgICBtYXJrOndoZWVsCj4gcGVybSAgICBkYTAgICAg IDA2NjAKPiBwZXJtICAgIGRldnN0YXQgMDQ0NAo+Cj4gZGV2ZnMucnVsZXMgd2lsbCBiZSBhcHBs aWVkIGR1cmluZyBib290IHRpbWUgKHBsZWFzZSBub3QgdGhlIGRpZmZlcmVudAo+IHBlcm1pc3Np b246IGZvciBleGFtcGxlIGNkMC8xOiAwNjY2IGluIGRldmZzLmNvbmYsIDA2MDAgaW4gZGV2ZnMu cnVsZXMsCj4gY2QwLzEKPiBoYXZlIGdvdCAwNjAwIHBlcm1pc3Npb25zKSwganVzdCB0aGUgbGFz dCBlbnRyeSAoYWRkIHBhdGggJ3Bhc3MqJyBtb2RlIDY2MAo+IGdyb3VwIHdoZWVsIHVzZXIgbWFy aykgd2lsbCBiZSBpZ25vcmVkIC0gYnV0IG9ubHkgYXQgYm9vdCB0aW1lLCB3aGVuCj4gcmVzdGFy dGluZyBkZXZmcywgcGFzczAvMSB3aWxsIGhhdmUgdGhlIGNvcnJlY3QgcGVybWlzc2lvbnMvb3du ZXJzaGlwLgo+Cj4gUmVnYXJkcywKPiBNYXJrCj4gLS0KPiBJZiAqSSogaGFkIGEgaGFtbWVyLCB0 aGVyZSdkIGJlIG5vIG1vcmUgZm9sayBzaW5nZXJzLgo+IF9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCj4gZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmcgbWFp bGluZyBsaXN0Cj4gaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLmZyZWVic2Qub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZnJl ZWJzZC1zdGFibGUKPiBUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSwgc2VuZCBhbnkgbWFpbCB0byAiZnJlZWJzZC1z dGFibGUtdW5zdWJzY3JpYmVAZnJlZWJzZC5vcmciCj4K From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 14:43:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3558F1065674 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 919078FC23 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from buckaroo@gmx.de) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2008 14:43:44 -0000 Received: from i538752B4.versanet.de (EHLO tower) [83.135.82.180] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2008 15:43:44 +0100 X-Authenticated: #171259 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18kU4oNf1skx9AWmxEDKQmVe87M79B6xs5CzGJSH4 ta4w8N3VHwwUBM From: Mark Nowiasz To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:43:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803091415.59328.buckaroo@gmx.de> <200803101506.39452.buckaroo@gmx.de> <3a142e750803100723r169392c3r840ada9a9dc4da65@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750803100723r169392c3r840ada9a9dc4da65@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803101543.43742.buckaroo@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Subject: Re: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:47 -0000 Am Montag, 10. März 2008 15:23:59 schrieb Paul B. Mahol: > I could not reproduce it on i386. > I moved pass entry in devfs.rules on last line and commented pass > entry in devfs.conf and rebooted. > Could you place pass0/* entry in nonlast line of devfs.rules and find > any difference. Hah - I've found the bug! devfs.rules has to end with an empty line, otherwise the last entry is being ignored at boot time (but strangely enough, not when doing an /etc/rc.d/devfs restart): An entry like add path 'pass*' mode 660 group wheel user mark will be ignored, whereas add path 'pass*' mode 660 group wheel user mark\n will be honoured. Well, this bug should be easy to fix - but as stated above, it's quite odd that a restart works. Regards, Mark -- Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes. -- Dr. Warren Jackson, Director, UTCS From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 15:02:01 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5271A106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:02:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F508FC14 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from [128.206.184.213] (cauchy.math.missouri.edu [128.206.184.213]) by math.missouri.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m2AEmiRF091478; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:48:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Message-ID: <47D54A4C.7080007@math.missouri.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:48:44 -0500 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080308 SeaMonkey/1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Lempriere References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> In-Reply-To: <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88/6191/Mon Mar 10 05:45:33 2008 on math.missouri.edu X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:02:01 -0000 Mike Lempriere wrote: > I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating > this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? > I have the opposite experience. I am amazed at how little spam this list gets. So far today, only one piece of spam - from the ports list. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 15:30:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E38106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED808FC27 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JYjxS-0001jL-4J for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:34 +0000 Received: from murdoc.gwi.net ([207.5.142.8]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:34 +0000 Received: from jcoombs by murdoc.gwi.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:34 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Joshua Coombs Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:30:26 -0400 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <1204313564l.249966l.0l@psu.edu> <7E228F3A-DFE0-4071-8694-14A012CC21E1@gothic.net.au> <1204575279l.807074l.0l@psu.edu> <47D1735D.60007@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: murdoc.gwi.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:30:38 -0000 As a follow up: I setup a fresh 7.0 install in a VM and played with it. Using my make.conf, I showed cc1 using 130MB when compiling insn-attrtab.c. I tweaked the VM conf down to 32MB of RAM and redid the compile, and other than taking forever due to swapping, it again churned past insn-attrtab.c using 130MB successfully. My next test is going to be simulating the swap setup I've got on my 386. Rather than one 384MB swap partition, I have three 128MB swap partitions, one per drive. My theory was I'd see some small boost when swapping by spreading the work load. Turns out it doesn't help, I bottleneck on the ISA bus, transferring 1.5MB/sec max no matter how I spread the work across the drives. When I re-partition I'll just pick one drive to hold all swap. That said, given how I butted up against a limit suspiciously close to the size of my swap partitions, rather than the 512MB data size limit reports, thats my next guess as to the cause, swap isn't allowing single processes to page into multiple swap pools? Josh C From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 16:03:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 190661065676 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from paris.ensmp.fr (paris-1.ensmp.fr [194.214.158.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02708FC25 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from [194.214.158.176] (saci [194.214.158.176]) by paris.ensmp.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/JMMC-04/Apr/2007) with ESMTP id m2AG2wcY026179; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:02:58 +0100 (MET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.3 paris.ensmp.fr m2AG2wcY026179 Message-ID: <47D55BB2.7050002@ensmp.fr> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:02:58 +0100 From: Jose Marcio Martins da Cruz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20070606 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> <20080310132013.R45443@fledge.watson.org> <47D52BA7.3030904@ensmp.fr> In-Reply-To: <47D52BA7.3030904@ensmp.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Miltered: at paris.ensmp.fr with ID 47D55BB2.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 47D55BB2.003/194.214.158.176/saci/[194.214.158.176]/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 47D55BB2.003 on paris-1 : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.004 -> S=0.004 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Cc: Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:03:02 -0000 Sorry, I mistakenly replied this to the list instead of only forwarding it to sympa authors, and I'm sorry about that. IMHO, sympa can be an interesting alternative to solve this problem, as it includes all features of mailman (and much more)..., but surely implies changing the MLM. Either way, sympa does what was suggested by Robert. I'm sorry JM Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: > > > Ooooooppssssss... > > La discussion fait rage. > > Mais sa suggestion n'est pas interessante ? Avoir un nombre de listes > pour lesquelles on peut poster à partir du moment où l'on existe dans > des bases ? > > Ceci peut être interessant, pour eux, mais pour nous à l'ecole des mines > et pour d'autres aussi. Actuellement, nous avons un tas de listes > intranet (tous_paris, tous...) et on peut poster à partir du moment où > l'expéditeur est dans le domaine ensmp.fr, mais on n'empeche pas > l'usurpation d'adresse bidon. > > Si vous avez la possibilité de faire un truc du genre... > > Robert Watson wrote: > >> >> >> If we're going to go that route, what I'd like to see is a >> message-free freebsd-posters list I can join once using a posting >> address that is then authorized to post to any list. That way I don't >> have to talk the 80+ mailing lists and re-subscribe to each one a >> second time, disabling receipt of messages, etc. This would also >> allow us to expempt things like gnats, etc, easily. >> >> Robert N M Watson >> Computer Laboratory >> University of Cambridge ` From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 16:39:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE331065675 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50ED8FC1D for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:39:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2AGdfns033306; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:39:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2AGdfRu033305; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:39:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:39:41 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803101639.m2AGdfRu033305@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, buckaroo@gmx.de In-Reply-To: <200803101543.43742.buckaroo@gmx.de> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:39:42 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: devfs ignores pass0 entry at boot time X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, buckaroo@gmx.de List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:39:44 -0000 Mark Nowiasz wrote: > Hah - I've found the bug! > > devfs.rules has to end with an empty line, No. It has to end with a newline, because it is a text file. In UNIX, a valid text file is a concatenation of zero or more lines, where each line *must* end with a newline, including the last line. If it doesn't, then it's not a valid text file, leading to undefined behaviour. For example, wc(1) doesn't count the last line if it's not properly terminated. Also, a shell loop (like "while read line; do") will skip such illegal lines. On the other hand, some tools accept such lines, and some even silently add a newline if one is missing (e.g. "sed valid" will add the missing newline). You should always make valid text files, so you can be sure that there won't be any problems. If you use a standard UNIX text editor such as ed or vi to create and edit text files, they will automatically make sure that every line is properly terminated, so there won't be any problem. > An entry like > > add path 'pass*' mode 660 group wheel user mark > > will be ignored, whereas > > add path 'pass*' mode 660 group wheel user mark\n > > > will be honoured. > > Well, this bug should be easy to fix There is no bug. I would expect the above behaviour. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Clear perl code is better than unclear awk code; but NOTHING comes close to unclear perl code" (taken from comp.lang.awk FAQ) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 16:55:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7538C106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585308FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@ayn.mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161476895001D; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:32:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id pEZS7vnoNbZn; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id EB91D68609E32; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:32:45 -0700 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080310163245.GA30642@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 OpenPKG/2.5 Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:55:53 -0000 On Sun, Mar 09, 2008, Peter Wemm wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: >> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating >> this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? > >I for one would like this too. > >On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email >addresses, but there is an easy way around that. What you do is >subscribe twice, and go to the options page and turn off email for one >of them. That way you can (for example) email with your normal >address and receive email from the list on unique addresses for >sorting or whatever. We host several Mailman mailing lists, and have very few problems with spam getting through to the lists, nor are there huge numbers of messages forwarded to the moderators for approval. Our lists are generally not moderated (other than an announcement list which isn't open for discussions), but only list members can post to the lists. Non-member postings are forwarded for approval, and the moderator may add non-subscribed address to a list of acceptable posters. We are using spamassassin with Mailman, and anything that exceeds the SA score is forwarded to the moderator for approval. This is the largest source of moderator requests. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a hundred lawyers proving that freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty license; and they will define and define freedom out of existence. - Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 17:00:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69515106566C for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@vintners.net) Received: from vinifera.vintners.net (vinifera.vintners.net [207.229.65.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8548FC1F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@vintners.net) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (brix.vintners.net [209.162.136.18]) by vinifera.vintners.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2AH16qx006101 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@vintners.net) Message-ID: <47D5691F.20708@vintners.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:00:15 -0700 From: Mike Lempriere User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> <20080310163245.GA30642@ayn.mi.celestial.com> In-Reply-To: <20080310163245.GA30642@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-46.8 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, RGX_BDY_FREE,RGX_BDY_HUGE,RGX_BDY_LOCAL_AREA_CODE,RGX_BDY_SOFTWARE, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on vinifera.vintners.net Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:00:12 -0000 That's all that I could ask -- I'll shut up now. Bill Campbell wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008, Peter Wemm wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Mike Lempriere wrote: >> >>> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating >>> this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? >>> >> I for one would like this too. >> >> On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email >> addresses, but there is an easy way around that. What you do is >> subscribe twice, and go to the options page and turn off email for one >> of them. That way you can (for example) email with your normal >> address and receive email from the list on unique addresses for >> sorting or whatever. >> > > We host several Mailman mailing lists, and have very few problems with spam > getting through to the lists, nor are there huge numbers of messages > forwarded to the moderators for approval. > > Our lists are generally not moderated (other than an announcement list > which isn't open for discussions), but only list members can post to the > lists. Non-member postings are forwarded for approval, and the moderator > may add non-subscribed address to a list of acceptable posters. > > We are using spamassassin with Mailman, and anything that exceeds the SA > score is forwarded to the moderator for approval. This is the largest > source of moderator requests. > > Bill > -- > INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC > URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way > FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 > > Make no laws whatever concerning speech and, speech will be free; so soon as > you make a declaration on paper that speech shall be free, you will have a > hundred lawyers proving that freedom does not mean abuse, nor liberty > license; and they will define and define freedom out of existence. > - Voltarine de Cleyre (1866-1912) > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- Mike Lempriere- Home: mike@vintners.net Phone: 206-780-2146 Cellphone: 206-200-5902; text pager: mlemp@tmail.com From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 17:06:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856C21065674 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ross.penner@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B678FC1B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ross.penner@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 25so1941563wfa.7 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:06:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lFO+LzUI26Pp/mFttyUjS+LK0u5h1O6zRZ6qLU8XMGw=; b=DX5/BuLPdcaC8/YnvneHy6SsEDs7Q725g6KTPqnwUfI9Trhc4ZAecDRjFm9Rf3v+Z5yUKqv6rkN2zDiqRkAfz2x9lg5AdaDvxeL9olOh+Tfnv02YbK848Ms4jxMk5N1hZkvt+GAb7rl6fBx4jnUnwjsgzlbQXmmHLJbL1otk944= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h7cwIyhPWQBqNUb0mvm+lFG/q5xUv2KXrgWcsnsxFjCOOdmT4Kj6sGp2f2rULRx6HygI7OTiXGNPax4mJAUejEX0l/9bosSGDLVyuRzVS+HV4Xy4Ajr/fRredJWxHy9BDQlI0wSpXXbOkaeXDV0fg5pwpeeHrXjrhdQDP3i1RlE= Received: by 10.142.171.6 with SMTP id t6mr1929389wfe.173.1205168772900; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.242.20 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:06:12 -0600 From: "Ross Penner" To: "Tom Evans" In-Reply-To: <1205145655.2126.249.camel@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1205145655.2126.249.camel@localhost> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd segfaults on run - was advised that it's an issue with the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:06:13 -0000 On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Tom Evans wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 23:07 -0700, Ross Penner wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've recently run the upgrade gamut and moved from 6.3 to 7.0. I've > > had a few hick ups but this one I can't resolve. I used musicpd > > (http://www.freshports.org/audio/musicpd/) on 6.3 to stream to a > > shoutcast server. When I start mpd on 7.0, it immediately has a > > segmentation fault and dumps its core. > > > > I discussed the issue in the musicpd irc channel and I was advised > > that it seemed like it was an issue with the system, not with musicpd. > > Since upgrading to 7.0, I've reinstalled all my ports and since > > discovering the problem, I've reinstalled musicpd specifically. The > > backtrace from gdb is as follows: > > > > #0 0x28140b15 in pthread_setcancelstate () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > > #1 0x281388ac in open () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > > #2 0x286ac269 in __stack_chk_fail () from /lib/libssp.so.0 > > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () > > #4 0xbfbfe6a8 in ?? () > > #5 0x28084ead in _rtld_thread_init () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > > > > > Any help or direction I can get to finding the solution to this > > problem would be greatly appreciated. > > musicpd doesn't really like playing with libthr. I find remapping libthr > using /etc/libmap.conf is an adequate workaround on 7.0. > > [/usr/local/bin/mpd] > libthr.so.3 libpthread.so.2 > > FYI, with this setup, mpd plays nicely with icecast on 7.0 > > Tom > I'm trying this and I'm getting a problem with libmap: > > #0 0x28140b15 in pthread_setcancelstate () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > > #1 0x281388ac in open () from /lib/libthr.so.3 > > #2 0x286ac269 in __stack_chk_fail () from /lib/libssp.so.0 > > #3 0x00000000 in ?? () > > #4 0xbfbfe6a8 in ?? () > > #5 0x28084ead in _rtld_thread_init () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 > > Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) > > > > > > Any help or direction I can get to finding the solution to this > > problem would be greatly appreciated. > > musicpd doesn't really like playing with libthr. I find remapping libthr > using /etc/libmap.conf is an adequate workaround on 7.0. > > [/usr/local/bin/mpd] > libthr.so.3 libpthread.so.2 > > FYI, with this setup, mpd plays nicely with icecast on 7.0 > > Tom > I'm trying this and I'm getting a problem with libmap. rosbox# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd start Starting musicpd. /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libpthread.so.2: version FBSD_1.0 required by /usr/local/bin/mpd not found I'm not sure how to proceed to fix this problem. Thanks for the help, Ross From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 19:23:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F908106566B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C56368FC15 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.8s) with ESMTP id 234979258-1834499 for multiple; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:39 -0400 Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2AJMvTW088673; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:22:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:08:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <47D1C705.5030604@andric.com> <20080307234004.GA47764@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20080307234004.GA47764@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803101508.43299.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:23:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/6192/Mon Mar 10 10:54:00 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Vincent Mialon , tech@gitoyen.net, Jeremy Chadwick , Dimitry Andric Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:11 -0000 On Friday 07 March 2008 06:40:04 pm Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 11:51:49PM +0100, Dimitry Andric wrote: > > On 2008-03-07 15:13, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Try this instead: > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/patches/btx_real.patch > > > > Hi John, > > > > I've encounted way too many machines already with BIOSes that clash with > > the regular btx loader... :( > > Have we considered sgetting rid of BTX and using a different bootloader > altogether on FreeBSD? There's got to be some open-source, non-GPL > bootloaders which work better than our current. > > The reason I mention this is because the number of problem reports with > BTX continue to rise, and debugging them is very painful since due to > the way the crash is reported, no one can easily report a full register > dump. I suppose if the latter was addressed, the former could be solved > quicker. BTX is actually quite small. BTX is just a small kernel that lets us write /boot/loader (and all of libstand) in C w/o worrying about real mode segmentation, etc. In one sense this patch _does_ get rid of BTX in that it now runs the BIOS in real mode rather than virtual 86 mode. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 19:23:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B2D1065721 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD308FC1B for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.8s) with ESMTP id 234979271-1834499 for multiple; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:45 -0400 Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2AJMvTX088673; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:23:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:09:51 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080309140703.a18c53a6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20080309140703.a18c53a6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803101509.52118.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:23:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/6192/Mon Mar 10 10:54:00 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Torfinn Ingolfsen Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:24 -0000 On Sunday 09 March 2008 09:07:03 am Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I don't > > use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). > > I used 'fdisk -B da0' to install /boot/mbr to the disk for testing. > When I now boot the disk on the Acer laptop, it just displays one > register dump followed by "BTX halted". You haven't updated boot2 (via bsdlabel -B) which sits in between boot0/mbr and /boot/loader. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 19:23:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E3F1065728 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0F28FC25 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.8s) with ESMTP id 234979277-1834499 for multiple; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:24:48 -0400 Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2AJMvTY088673; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:23:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:12:44 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803080201.51851.window@ttk.ru> <20080308112129.GW57756@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> In-Reply-To: <20080308112129.GW57756@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803101512.44835.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:23:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/6192/Mon Mar 10 10:54:00 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Kostik Belousov , Oleg Sidorkin Subject: Re: [Panic] Removing of the Palm during select syscall causes panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:23:24 -0000 On Saturday 08 March 2008 06:21:29 am Kostik Belousov wrote: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 02:01:51AM +0300, Oleg Sidorkin wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm running 7.0-Stable on the ASUS P5K-VM + Intel Q6600 box. > > If Palm device is disconnected after synchronization, system crashes with > > following stacktrace: > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > I posted the patch several days ago, see > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2008-March/084076.html So this axes the Giant trick stuff, is this because there are race with the cdevsw pointer itself? -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 20:02:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3338B106566B; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com (relay03.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3548FC16; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:02:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from [212.82.216.226] (helo=skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JYoC2-000GqS-1o; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:02:02 +0200 Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2AK24dc074189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:02:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2AK1oGO009208; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:01:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2AK1oWx009207; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:01:50 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:01:50 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20080310200150.GE10374@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: <200803080201.51851.window@ttk.ru> <20080308112129.GW57756@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <200803101512.44835.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200803101512.44835.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Scanner-Signature: f2683d8df775da069012ccac6e6e6321 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: kostikbel@gmail.com X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2374 [Mar 9 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release Cc: Oleg Sidorkin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Panic] Removing of the Palm during select syscall causes panic X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:02:04 -0000 --7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 03:12:44PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Saturday 08 March 2008 06:21:29 am Kostik Belousov wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2008 at 02:01:51AM +0300, Oleg Sidorkin wrote: > > > Hello, > > >=20 > > > I'm running 7.0-Stable on the ASUS P5K-VM + Intel Q6600 box. > > > If Palm device is disconnected after synchronization, system crashes = with=20 > > > following stacktrace: > > >=20 > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > >=20 > > I posted the patch several days ago, see > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2008-March/084076.ht= ml >=20 > So this axes the Giant trick stuff, is this because there are race with t= he=20 > cdevsw pointer itself? There is a separate race with cdevsw being uninitialized while device is created that is fixed in the patch. The panic reported is caused by the dereference of the cdev->si_devsw in the giant_trick wrappers without holding the dev_mtx. In fact, dropping dev_mtx in dev(vn)_refthreads and then dereferencing the si_devsw. The destroy_devl() routine zeroes out si_devsw before waiting for si_threadcount to settle to zero. This works as a barrier for dev_refthread. Dereferencing si_devsw afterward requires either the same check or returning giant_trick from dev_refthread or axing gianttrick (dev_refthread returns cdevsw). I choose the later. --7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfVk60ACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4jvDgCgpLmsYj0p/lz2KKYrZMATBb+z WdsAoKei8xy0OUaQI8vcYOsWDa7Nvid0 =gtN8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7CZp05NP8/gJM8Cl-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 20:34:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E7E106566C for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from papelhigienico@gmail.com) Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F7E8FC2C for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from papelhigienico@gmail.com) Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id b35so1148951ika.3 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:34:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=3vPVCJ2sq/bUwIU0zjjA0wEt3Ujn+9x11beH74Vui4s=; b=OQhjBA40prdU+Z15kIIk+EjUUxzYJmly+PKHUVXvRNlR+EldRqnbKZWjLhynfa+VfNF3RNqpnJhAkOMH90/uZv9edphHT99CzLI70eAAFax4HSGAGxMp0bU9dz3pHOyVWn2T6fZp1iyTxavn4+ituAXsJxYqeQPwnDD+7BWmB5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BV+yR+J/tdQ2w60NlyTtYCcXEO4oqR1RdwiZZzoG/XLs+6TA+F3SVDD+X34tf3iBA6bWk6bzSXhXM+AX2+MWrJKxaIDlq7gwHbVtYKvdOrj1ZtXA22oiD1/ihfK8RBcKCkPoF9hDivk6O9tmZ/h4peVZmMH91CMSSP7mwEkNzqY= Received: by 10.142.226.2 with SMTP id y2mr2225002wfg.75.1205179692118; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.187.19 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:08:12 -0300 From: "papelhigienico@gmail.com" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: sem_timedwait in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:34:49 -0000 Hi all! The function sem_timedwait exist in FreeBSD? Which version? I see something in this list, but dated of 2004, and the manual pages don't show nothing... Fabio Luis Girardi From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 22:22:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45852106568F for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA15F8FC27 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0JXJ00CUGCSRBUB0@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:22:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.173.59]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0JXJ00LEYCSQGAR2@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:22:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:22:02 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080310232202.46018dac.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: <200803101509.52118.jhb@freebsd.org> References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <20080309024450.GA92566@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080309140703.a18c53a6.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <200803101509.52118.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:22:05 -0000 On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:09:51 -0400 John Baldwin wrote: > You haven't updated boot2 (via bsdlabel -B) which sits in between > boot0/mbr and /boot/loader. That was it - nice! Booting from usb now works, even on my troublesome Acer laptop[1] (Aspire 5672). I put up a dmesg output[2]. Thanks to everybody for providing insight into this matter. References: 1) http://tingox.googlepages.com/aceraspireas5672andfreebsd 2) http://tingox.googlepages.com/as5672-dmesg-7.0-stable-20080310.txt -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 10 23:27:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928701065671 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:27:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A5D8FC1D for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JYrOo-0002bD-Hc for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:27:18 +0000 Received: from adsl-69-234-227-52.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.227.52]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:27:18 +0000 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-227-52.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:27:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: walt Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:28:15 -0700 Lines: 29 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-227-52.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 3.0a1pre (X11/2008031004) Sender: news Subject: [7.0] /bin/sh segfaulting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:27:26 -0000 I'm now running RELENG_7 on three x86 machines, but (only) one of them is behaving badly during bootup. Once the rc.d scripts start to run, I see /bin/sh crashing dozens of times before I finally see the login prompt. A few of the normal processes actually start okay, like ppp and named (this is my home firewall), but many normal daemons like syslogd and sendmail are not running. The backtrace for sh.core isn't very helpful because there were no debugging symbols (but I'm recompiling now). I found an old statically-linked sh from 2001 still on the machine, so I substituted it for the current /bin/sh and everything works perfectly. Even the current sh which crashes during boot seems to work fine after I log in -- I can use it to run the rc.d scripts manually with no problems. Any ideas why /bin/sh would crash when being invoked by init, but works fine otherwise? This particular machine is old -- a Cyrix (i486) cpu and only 64MB of RAM -- but it's still stable as a rock. I've already rebuilt world and kernel twice with no problems at all (which took almost a week). Any diagnostic experiments I could try? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 01:16:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC00106566B for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2EB8FC19 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:16:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from spork@bway.net) Received: (qmail 61308 invoked by uid 0); 11 Mar 2008 00:50:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO white.nat.fasttrackmonkey.com) (spork@216.220.116.154) by smtp.bway.net with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 11 Mar 2008 00:50:00 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Sprickman X-X-Sender: spork@hotlap.local To: Mike Lempriere In-Reply-To: <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> Message-ID: References: <000e0cd28bfc044804ee5227d22ecd@google.com> <47D4BEC1.5000704@vintners.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:16:42 -0000 On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Mike Lempriere wrote: > I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating this > list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? I have a humble suggestion that perhaps the FreeBSD Foundation could handle... Seeing as Cisco recently bought a company that builds an anti-spam appliance that runs FreeBSD, perhaps it would be worthwhile to ping someone at cisco about a donation of one of these boxes. If it's as nice as the Barracuda, it would give the mailing list maintainers time to focus on everything else beyond the spam. Some links: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jobs/2007-December/000548.html http://www.ironport.com/products/ Just a random thought... Charles > -- > Mike Lempriere- Home: mike@vintners.net Phone: 206-780-2146 > Cellphone: 206-200-5902; text pager: mlemp@tmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 01:25:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B781065673 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bermejator@hotmail.com) Received: from blu139-omc2-s2.blu139.hotmail.com (blu139-omc2-s2.blu139.hotmail.com [65.55.175.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFADE8FC24 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:25:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bermejator@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU118-W15 ([65.55.162.185]) by blu139-omc2-s2.blu139.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:13:18 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [83.61.11.151] From: Ruben Lara To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:13:18 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2008 01:13:18.0925 (UTC) FILETIME=[1757EFD0:01C88315] Subject: 6.3 to 7.0 release out of memory allocating error X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:25:20 -0000 Hi all! I'm trying to buildworld from 6.3 release to 7.0. All ok, but when system is building world, i get cc1: out of memory allocat= ing 97582896 bytes error I goolge it and get response in a forum: > >Check /etc/make.conf for CFLAGS, and if present remove it.=20 O remove CFLAGS ande installation can continue a seconds more, but then: cc1: out of memory allocating 15133360 bytes I don't know what can i do Thank you very much Rub=E9n Lara _________________________________________________________________ MSN Video.=20 http://video.msn.com/?mkt=3Des-es= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 07:36:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8605D1065670 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidxu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB278FC24; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:36:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from davidxu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from apple.my.domain (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2B7aZTL096962; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:36:36 GMT (envelope-from davidxu@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <47D636D2.10608@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:37:54 +0800 From: David Xu User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071211) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "papelhigienico@gmail.com" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: sem_timedwait in FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:36:38 -0000 papelhigienico@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all! > > The function sem_timedwait exist in FreeBSD? Which version? I see something > in this list, but dated of 2004, and the manual pages don't show nothing... > > > Fabio Luis Girardi I am working on it. Regards, David Xu From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 07:48:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01661065672 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:48:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04788FC1E; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47D63958.3040706@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:48:40 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben Lara References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 6.3 to 7.0 release out of memory allocating error X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:48:41 -0000 Ruben Lara wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm trying to buildworld from 6.3 release to 7.0. > > All ok, but when system is building world, i get cc1: out of memory allocating 97582896 bytes error > I goolge it and get response in a forum: >> Check /etc/make.conf for CFLAGS, and if present remove it. > > O remove CFLAGS ande installation can continue a seconds more, but then: > cc1: out of memory allocating 15133360 bytes > > I don't know what can i do Set CFLAGS=-O (i.e. reduce optimization level, which has high memory requirements with gcc 4.x). Kris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 09:31:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DB11065707 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2848FC31 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2645641fka.11 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:31:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=/9ihRnMd9YTWXLainmD+Y0vxV3Bhi65uNIHwEODnJQM=; b=FhlbQlWpjLX/nQPUSbkaEuxqO62xNbeQyABkLPN1mzzDddnP7VhUqbIatJ5gsQz1OAzeiJN9lTgjEk6pRhnVlwoBc6CWvJL3LpZvZYjfiLViXYs0nRXM44B0uFhg2OkIsSzUG3LXV7/26ifoL4pmal1Cmke8Ex/J1jBSHjZOroU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=DpIv/Jsran1oTqBRyVmj/Dnx5nX46Tfot/GlIF2REIHJhTCNFQTdbUjIKJMohoAUwuCDdFm9AlzbNkclAS0dzNfn3eSPoFw4OrJm/O01xb201qffMgxBDmYVr81DJznLMMpeIG0cDr10bwEF5fPdJ0q9XXn7U0Zk6XGiXCnOZMw= Received: by 10.82.149.8 with SMTP id w8mr15861802bud.29.1205227879814; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [217.206.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j8sm1277194gvb.7.2008.03.11.02.31.18 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:31:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: Ross Penner In-Reply-To: References: <1205145655.2126.249.camel@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-rYPHrMj8ryBWB9eKTNT9" Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:17 +0000 Message-Id: <1205227877.75559.4.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: musicpd segfaults on run - was advised that it's an issue with the system X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:31:22 -0000 --=-rYPHrMj8ryBWB9eKTNT9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 11:06 -0600, Ross Penner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:40 AM, Tom Evans wro= te: > > > > musicpd doesn't really like playing with libthr. I find remapping libt= hr > > using /etc/libmap.conf is an adequate workaround on 7.0. > > > > [/usr/local/bin/mpd] > > libthr.so.3 libpthread.so.2 > > > > FYI, with this setup, mpd plays nicely with icecast on 7.0 > > > > Tom > > >=20 > I'm trying this and I'm getting a problem with libmap. >=20 > rosbox# /usr/local/etc/rc.d/musicpd start > Starting musicpd. > /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libpthread.so.2: version FBSD_1.0 required > by /usr/local/bin/mpd not found >=20 > I'm not sure how to proceed to fix this problem. >=20 > Thanks for the help, >=20 > Ross Ah lovely, I guess this is non-supported behaviour I am relying on! I'm still running 7.0-PRERELEASE, having tracked CURRENT and RELENG_7 since it's branch, so it is possible this library is different on my system than it is supposed to be -or possibly vice versa - my /lib/libpthread.so.2 certainly does have version FBSD_1.0 (tested with the ever reliable strings and grep..). Can anyone advise here? Who has the wrong libs? :) Tom --=-rYPHrMj8ryBWB9eKTNT9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBH1lFhlcRvFfyds/cRAnxIAKCqMdJmmeTRFg/rIbbzOO0fkSn3MACgsUvt OSWqPHDyUa59PS7HWuf5DRg= =poC2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-rYPHrMj8ryBWB9eKTNT9-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 10:48:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF771106566C for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:48:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D928FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:48:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2BAmnMl077562; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:48:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2BAmn4f077561; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:48:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:48:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803111048.m2BAmn4f077561@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, w41ter@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:48:49 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: [7.0] /bin/sh segfaulting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, w41ter@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:48:51 -0000 walt wrote: > I'm now running RELENG_7 on three x86 machines, but (only) one of > them is behaving badly during bootup. > > Once the rc.d scripts start to run, I see /bin/sh crashing dozens of > times before I finally see the login prompt. A few of the normal > processes actually start okay, like ppp and named (this is my home > firewall), but many normal daemons like syslogd and sendmail are > not running. Last time I had symptoms like that, it turned out to be bad RAM. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Passwords are like underwear. You don't share them, you don't hang them on your monitor or under your keyboard, you don't email them, or put them on a web site, and you must change them very often. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 11:20:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCB3106566B for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2728A8FC27 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZ2XD-000162-Qi for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:43 +0000 Received: from 195.208.174.178 ([195.208.174.178]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:43 +0000 Received: from vadim_nuclight by 195.208.174.178 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:43 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Vadim Goncharov Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Nuclear Lightning @ Tomsk, TPU AVTF Hostel Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <20080310132013.R45443@fledge.watson.org> <200803101333.m2ADXb0L024160@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.208.174.178 X-Comment-To: Oliver Fromme User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (FreeBSD) Sender: news Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vadim_nuclight@mail.ru List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:20:48 -0000 Hi Oliver Fromme! On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:33:37 +0100 (CET); Oliver Fromme wrote about 'Re: list spam': >>>> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of moderating this >>>> list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? >>> >>> I for one would like this too. >>> >>> On one hand, it is inconvenient for people with multiple email addresses, >>> but there is an easy way around that. What you do is subscribe twice, and >>> go to the options page and turn off email for one of them. That way you can >>> (for example) email with your normal address and receive email from the list >>> on unique addresses for sorting or whatever. >>> >>> We do this on other lists for freebsd.org. However, we need to have mailman >>> be a little smarter about it. Right now, it holds the messages for >>> moderation. Instead, it needs to immediately bounce the email with >>> instructions about what to do. Otherwise we have the situation where >>> somebody emails and gets i the queue, then sends with the right address and >>> it goes through. Later on, the message is approved and we get a duplicate on >>> the list. >> >> If we're going to go that route, what I'd like to see is a message-free >> freebsd-posters list I can join once using a posting address that is then >> authorized to post to any list. > Yes, please. I'm not subsribed to the lists because I'm > reading them through a one-way NNTP gateway ( and I guess > I'm not the only one). I certainly wouldn't want to manage > several dozens subscriptions just to be able to post to the > lists. Yes, me too, but I'm using two-way NNTP-server - gmane.org. Please keep it allowing to still post. -- WBR, Vadim Goncharov. ICQ#166852181 mailto:vadim_nuclight@mail.ru [Moderator of RU.ANTI-ECOLOGY][FreeBSD][http://antigreen.org][LJ:/nuclight] From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 12:09:40 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3F3106566B for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:09:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickchan@hangsengbank.com) Received: from mout3.freenet.de (mout3.freenet.de [IPv6:2001:748:100:40::2:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF6A8FC1D for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:09:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patrickchan@hangsengbank.com) Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout3.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1JZ3IY-0008DU-Vi for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:09:38 +0100 Received: from [41.220.70.3] (port=15287 helo=KAY) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID Little.Tom@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #12) id 1JZ3IW-0000Ql-BP for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:09:38 +0100 From: "Patrick Chan" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:09:36 +0000 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential Message-ID: <2368650673591240@mx.freenet.de> Content-Type: text/plain ; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Reply Me ASAP!!! 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E-mail: chanpatrick_hs@yahoo.com.hk From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 12:52:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AF41065672 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grafan@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2526D8FC14 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grafan@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so2744062fka.11 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=uOBSxMPMxl21lORllchn46vwaXnkBkHqu60ifEo5zio=; b=neFLKX9UUor0PNKrs31StY09tOb3eJsRGVyeDQUeDSrBLhOSTH2d8ay0xHiKpy0hXCFPNqLZj+OepzJkH1dVHc8rsZlk1OvdgipVGsXRX5DgvXOMM6PvvObtsT1iZsQeTwkLqFe4ztUdfuUkOAedYGVzJ4wQgMow4jJ1bpJtMS0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=lWnbs1eOdE0b1Q5JybnrdtXKwOddgOHISAQbkGMrc/ioq57oCkIJY+OMXpgym5xNv/iIYSuVMZO8wInjQChDNu+LFHSqzWzrfLjAAuaTYOUAcMHELsPx8ssICJMnM3I8qUnK3wpkXZBqh/4bhWPrAqr07M+bazix30WjdyNCtZ8= Received: by 10.82.188.15 with SMTP id l15mr16262858buf.15.1205239966638; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.11 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6eb82e0803110552t21ce6b30w7124a585cba78f39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:52:43 +0800 From: "Rong-en Fan" To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: panic: locking against myself on 7.0-R X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:52:49 -0000 It's 7.0-RELEASE amd64, GENERIC modulo some devices, using 4BSD, IPSEC, and IPFW. The backtrace seems related to softupdate code. This box is just a NFS server that serves ~25 6.x + Linux clients. Any ideas? Regards, Rong-En Fan panic: lockmgr: locking against myself cpuid = 1 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2a panic() at panic+0x17a _lockmgr() at _lockmgr+0x85a getblk() at getblk+0x149 breadn() at breadn+0x3f bread() at bread+0x1e indir_trunc() at indir_trunc+0x11f indir_trunc() at indir_trunc+0x287 indir_trunc() at indir_trunc+0x287 handle_workitem_freeblocks() at handle_workitem_freeblocks+0x2aa process_worklist_item() at process_worklist_item+0x293 softdep_process_worklist() at softdep_process_worklist+0xed softdep_flush() at softdep_flush+0x12a fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x11f fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe --- trap 0, rip = 0, rsp = 0xffffffffb91f1d30, rbp = 0 --- Uptime: 8d15h33m46s Physical memory: 3064 MB Dumping 470 MB: 455 439 423 407 391 375 359 343 327 311 295 279 263 247 231 215 199 183 167 151 135 119 103 87 71 55 39 23 7 #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 194 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:194 #1 0xffffffff802b1ad8 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:409 #2 0xffffffff802b1f37 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:563 #3 0xffffffff802a258a in _lockmgr (lkp=0xffffffffa65f1c38, flags=0, interlkp=Variable "interlkp" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_lock.c:366 #4 0xffffffff80319dc9 in getblk (vp=0xffffff000151e7c0, blkno=21058528, size=16384, slpflag=0, slptimeo=0, flags=Variable "flags" is not available. ) at buf.h:301 #5 0xffffffff8031aa8f in breadn (vp=0xffffff000151e7c0, blkno=Variable "blkno" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:786 #6 0xffffffff8031abae in bread (vp=Variable "vp" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_bio.c:734 #7 0xffffffff803e897f in indir_trunc (freeblks=0xffffff009c6db600, dbn=21058528, level=0, lbn=6303756, countp=0xffffffffb91f1b10) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2866 #8 0xffffffff803e8ae7 in indir_trunc (freeblks=0xffffff009c6db600, dbn=Variable "dbn" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2892 #9 0xffffffff803e8ae7 in indir_trunc (freeblks=0xffffff009c6db600, dbn=Variable "dbn" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2892 #10 0xffffffff803e8f0a in handle_workitem_freeblocks ( freeblks=0xffffff009c6db600, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2746 #11 0xffffffff803ea473 in process_worklist_item (mp=0xffffff000159d978, flags=Variable "flags" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:963 #12 0xffffffff803eb4cd in softdep_process_worklist (mp=0xffffff000159d978, full=0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:847 #13 0xffffffff803ed42a in softdep_flush () at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:758 #14 0xffffffff802924bf in fork_exit ( callout=0xffffffff803ed300 , arg=0x0, frame=0xffffffffb91f1c80) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:781 #15 0xffffffff8043170e in fork_trampoline () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/exception.S:415 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 15:47:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519BF1065673 for ; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable During heavy postgresql load (pgbench), /var/log/messages registers (multiple times) the following message: "Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl" I'm increasing both, but no matter what I increase them to, after a short time they again get increased by the system (???). The values are currently: vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 1134 vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 8000000 But the last sysctl setting, verified by retrieving it from my shell command line history, is that I set vm.pmap.shpgperproc to 800. Is this normal, and what are the common settings for these values? The machine is 2x4-core, currently 4 GB RAM (which will increase to at least 6 GB), amd64, running postgresql, php and apache. --------------enig526DE873EF681C583AFA92BA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH1qp+ldnAQVacBcgRAh7HAKCBCpa/5y/6wMztLQqa8buKei55OgCgge66 MxMxTvjS73S0CDSOqY4+Ky0= =hJaW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig526DE873EF681C583AFA92BA-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 20:20:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257FF1065672 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:20:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from outK.internet-mail-service.net (outK.internet-mail-service.net [216.240.47.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046E78FC25 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:20:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from mx0.idiom.com (HELO idiom.com) (216.240.32.160) by out.internet-mail-service.net (qpsmtpd/0.40) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:08:17 -0700 Received: from julian-mac.elischer.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by idiom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929E12D600F for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <47D6E687.4020609@elischer.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:07:35 -0700 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: PCBSD & X11 ugh X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:20:15 -0000 So, I tried out PCBSD on a Dell "DHP" (what ever that is) (made feb '05). it installs great but when I run boot it, (FreeBSD comes up fine) teh X server goes into an infinite loop somewhere. 168 root 1 0 0 148M 6976K rdnrel 0:57 93.85% Xorg and the screen stays black. the fan goes onto "tornado" mode and it just sits there. attempting to send a signal -9 to the x server has no effect so its stuck in the kernel somewhere. does anyone have any X11 foo (or PCBSD foo) to let me know how to get the damed server to do what it did in install, when it was just fine. possibly I need to disable some kernel extension feature.. I'm not really sure what info I need to send. every 4 years I get hit by some X11 thing like this.. just far enough appart that I've forgotten all I knew, and the whole X11 landscape has changed since I last looked at it.. maybe I'll try desktopBSD.. hmm another download.. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 21:23:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60A11065670 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bermejator@hotmail.com) Received: from blu139-omc2-s7.blu139.hotmail.com (blu139-omc2-s7.blu139.hotmail.com [65.55.175.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EEC8FC1B for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:23:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bermejator@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU118-W18 ([65.55.162.186]) by blu139-omc2-s7.blu139.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:23:51 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [83.61.11.151] From: Ruben Lara To: Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:23:51 +0000 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2008 21:23:51.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[33E59D10:01C883BE] Subject: "Implicit declaration of built-in function" upgrading to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:23:52 -0000 Hi! I solved problem with memory, but now, make buildworld crash with next erro= r: .... /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:238: warning: incom= patible implicit declaration of built-in function =B4abort=B4 /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:In function =B4_Unw= ind_Resume_or_Rethrow=B4: /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:263: warning: incom= patible implicit declaration of built-in function =B4abort=B4 *** Error code 1 ..... Anybody can help me=BF=BF? Thank you in advance Rub=E9n Lara _________________________________________________________________ La vida de los famosos al desnudo en MSN Entretenimiento http://entretenimiento.es.msn.com/= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 11 21:28:23 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920C1065672 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:28:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from weak.local (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0118FC2D; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:28:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <47D6F973.8040509@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:28:19 +0100 From: Kris Kennaway User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben Lara References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Implicit declaration of built-in function" upgrading to 7.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:28:23 -0000 Ruben Lara wrote: > Hi! > > I solved problem with memory, but now, make buildworld crash with next error: > > .... > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:238: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ´abort´ > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:In function ´_Unwind_Resume_or_Rethrow´: > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc/../../../contrib/gcc/unwind.inc:263: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function ´abort´ > *** Error code 1 > ..... > > Anybody can help me¿¿? Probably because you set CFLAGS= (no optimization). Note that no-one told you to do that :-) Kris From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 10:53:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 363251065676 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:53:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lozenetz.org) Received: from mail.webreality.org (mailserver.webreality.org [217.75.141.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26F78FC4A for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:53:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@lozenetz.org) Received: from [10.0.1.101] (unknown [87.121.18.230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.webreality.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01A9FFE3B9 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:36:25 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:36:19 +0200 From: Anton - Valqk User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-HostIT-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-HostIT-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-HostIT-MailScanner-From: lists@lozenetz.org Cc: Subject: Help choosing a good PCI PIDE controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:53:15 -0000 Hi there group, I have a P 233MHZ machine running as rouer, I have attached a second drive for a storage but the IDE controller on the mother board is very old and slow (UDMA33). The disk is new and have 16MB cache, but the IDE is very slow and have very bad performace - about 1.3MB/s. I want to attach a PCI PATA IDE controller (I'm running 6.3) that will be rock solid. can you please recommend me a good card? Thank you! cheers, Anton. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:03:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADB71065721 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vincent@netaktiv.com) Received: from caracas.brainstorm.fr (reverse-41.fdn.fr [80.67.176.41]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394188FC1D for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vincent@netaktiv.com) Received: from spyker.local (unknown [192.168.0.80]) by caracas.brainstorm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661C61AF558 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:03:40 +0100 (CET) From: Vincent Mialon To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:04:56 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.9 References: <200803061742.34291.vincent@netaktiv.com> <200803101509.52118.jhb@freebsd.org> <20080310232202.46018dac.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-Reply-To: <20080310232202.46018dac.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803121204.57110.vincent@netaktiv.com> Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:03:43 -0000 I generated an USB key with NanoBSD using the last btx.S 1.46 from current.= I=20 tested it on 2 brand new supermicro servers that did not boot with the=20 revision 1.44.=20 It works perfectly !! Thank you very much !=20 It now works also on a Lenovo Thinkpad T61p. Excellent job ! Le Monday 10 March 2008 23:22:02 Torfinn Ingolfsen, vous avez =E9crit=A0: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:09:51 -0400 > > John Baldwin wrote: > > You haven't updated boot2 (via bsdlabel -B) which sits in between > > boot0/mbr and /boot/loader. > > That was it - nice! > Booting from usb now works, even on my troublesome Acer laptop[1] > (Aspire 5672). I put up a dmesg output[2]. > > Thanks to everybody for providing insight into this matter. > > References: > 1) http://tingox.googlepages.com/aceraspireas5672andfreebsd > 2) http://tingox.googlepages.com/as5672-dmesg-7.0-stable-20080310.txt From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:09:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC381065765 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654428FC40 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA07D46411 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:52:26 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cJnGZyN1t3mm for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:52:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3531CD4644E for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:52:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:52:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Subject: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:21 -0000 Hello! Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, =20= which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random =20 hangups, crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) =20= and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. I've googled and looked through the list archives trying to find =20 success stories/problem reports using FreeBSD on this box, but haven't =20= found very much.. Only thing was = http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html=20 which says "Functional" which isnt very informative ;) So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i)? Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with =20 6.3... Load will be a couple of jails mainly running apache + php + =20 mysql (or at least thats where the load will be). Thanks! -- Johan Str=F6m Stromnet johan@stromnet.se http://www.stromnet.se/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:09:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969CA1065672 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8643E8FC23 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6597D1CC068; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:09:54 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Anton - Valqk Message-ID: <20080312110954.GA22374@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help choosing a good PCI PIDE controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:09:54 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:36:19PM +0200, Anton - Valqk wrote: > Hi there group, > I have a P 233MHZ machine running as rouer, > I have attached a second drive for a storage but the IDE controller on the > mother board is very old and slow (UDMA33). > The disk is new and have 16MB cache, but the IDE is very slow and have very > bad performace - about 1.3MB/s. > I want to attach a PCI PATA IDE controller (I'm running 6.3) that will be > rock solid. > can you please recommend me a good card? Many people have had good success (while within a limited budget) with PATA and SATA cards from Promise Technologies. For PATA: http://www.promise.com/product/pd_l3.asp?Product_Layer_ID=PRLA20060911012 For SATA: http://www.promise.com/product/pd_l3.asp?Product_Layer_ID=PRLA20060911010 Two things: 1) Their RAID controllers *also* do JBOD (non-RAID), which means you can use them as a standard non-RAID disks (they'll appear in FreeBSD as adX disks) 2) Their Ultra133 TX2 card works fine on 33MHz PCI bus machines; don't worry about the card being 66MHz, it will downthrottle correctly. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:15:04 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354D51065671 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0F68FC1B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZOvF-0000cA-Qw for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:01 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:01 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:01 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:19:24 +0100 Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD5F7BF94E10243CC5363832A" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:15:04 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD5F7BF94E10243CC5363832A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Johan Str=C3=B6m wrote: > So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i)= ? >=20 > Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with 6.3..= =2E > Load will be a couple of jails mainly running apache + php + mysql (or > at least thats where the load will be). It's not an exact match but ML 370 G5 with the same RAID card works fine under 7.0, for almost the same load, after flashing the latest BIOS for everything. --------------enigD5F7BF94E10243CC5363832A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH17w8ldnAQVacBcgRAv2iAJ9kzCAq4P9mdd7PNnoF+Ufd8eG5SQCg0dKb /60t5tLdbis486YpVDaEASI= =4HTy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD5F7BF94E10243CC5363832A-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:16:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BD461065674 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail5out.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2958FC1D for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail5out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 667ED2218A63; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:16:49 +1100 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <47D7BBA1000071E0E417F5@BarNet> Received: from mail5auth.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail5auth.barnet.com.au", Issuer "*.barnet.com.au" (verified OK)) by mail5.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0921B206C; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:16:49 +1100 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (k7.mavetju.org [10.251.1.18]) by mail5auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7F922189E2; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:16:48 +1100 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7410FA8; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:16:48 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:16:48 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Johan Str?m Message-ID: <20080312111648.GE2964@k7.mavetju> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Johan Str?m , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:16:51 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:52:44AM +0100, Johan Str?m wrote: > Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, > which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random > hangups, crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. Try the -proliant mailinglist at freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org. For what it is worth, we have a nice batch of DL380s here in the racks, all running 6.3 now and that is a nice improvement over the <6.3 ones. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:20:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A59106566C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9909D8FC23 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZP06-0000oH-QT for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:02 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:02 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:22:14 +0100 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig752C29205A124E3BE019899F" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig752C29205A124E3BE019899F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ivan Voras wrote: > Johan Str=C3=B6m wrote: >=20 >> So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i= )? >> >> Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with 6.3.= =2E. >> Load will be a couple of jails mainly running apache + php + mysql (or= >> at least thats where the load will be). >=20 > It's not an exact match but ML 370 G5 with the same RAID card works fin= e > under 7.0, for almost the same load, after flashing the latest BIOS for= > everything. One more addition: I needed to use sys/extipl boot loader instead of the standard one. --------------enig752C29205A124E3BE019899F Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH17znldnAQVacBcgRAk7XAKC8hdVyXH18ZorskYrkGovY73pcxQCggqHK 3cbcQc8nNJ5kdiPMqWNvZFY= =qKq5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig752C29205A124E3BE019899F-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:20:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1291065674 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4B48FC13 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AEDC01CC068; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:20:42 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Edwin Groothuis , Johan Str?m , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080312112042.GA22657@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <20080312111648.GE2964@k7.mavetju> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080312111648.GE2964@k7.mavetju> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:20:42 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:16:48PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:52:44AM +0100, Johan Str?m wrote: > > Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, > > which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random > > hangups, crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. > > Try the -proliant mailinglist at freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org. > > For what it is worth, we have a nice batch of DL380s here in the > racks, all running 6.3 now and that is a nice improvement over the > <6.3 ones. I'm curious -- do these machines behave similarly to Sun and others, where you're forced to use disks that come directly from HP rather than being able to buy your own and use them? -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:22:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124A1106567C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:22:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2568FC47 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:22:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:57454 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JZOnK-0000ZA-5r for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:06:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 19087 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2008 12:06:48 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2008 12:06:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 58120 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Mar 2008 12:06:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:06:48 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Anton - Valqk Message-ID: <20080312110648.GA58063@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Anton - Valqk , stable@freebsd.org References: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JZOnK-0000ZA-5r. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JZOnK-0000ZA-5r a5e933a027176b05a0a4e69731f31ac1 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help choosing a good PCI PIDE controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:22:05 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:36:19PM +0200, Anton - Valqk wrote: > Hi there group, > I have a P 233MHZ machine running as rouer, > I have attached a second drive for a storage but the IDE controller on the > mother board is very old and slow (UDMA33). > The disk is new and have 16MB cache, but the IDE is very slow and have very > bad performace - about 1.3MB/s. > I want to attach a PCI PATA IDE controller (I'm running 6.3) that will be > rock solid. > can you please recommend me a good card? I have had good experiences with the Promise Ultra100 TX2. The Promise Ultra133 TX2 should be even better, but I have no personal experience with it. (Apart from the slightly higher speed, the Ultra133 should be able to handle large disks out of the box, while the Ultra100 needed a firmware update to handle disks larger than 128GiB.) -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:26:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD681065670; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:26:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: from mail5out.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464AF8FC18; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:26:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from edwin@mavetju.org) Received: by mail5out.barnet.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6A162218A67; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:08 +1100 (EST) X-Viruscan-Id: <47D7BDD000007CF051EE13@BarNet> Received: from mail5auth.barnet.com.au (mail5.barnet.com.au [202.83.178.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail5auth.barnet.com.au", Issuer "*.barnet.com.au" (verified OK)) by mail5.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3B021B20AA; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:08 +1100 (EST) Received: from k7.mavetju (k7.mavetju.org [10.251.1.18]) by mail5auth.barnet.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661972218A62; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:08 +1100 (EST) Received: by k7.mavetju (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 376B21A0; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:08 +1100 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:08 +1100 From: Edwin Groothuis To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20080312112608.GF2964@k7.mavetju> Mail-Followup-To: Edwin Groothuis , Jeremy Chadwick , Johan Str?m , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20080312111648.GE2964@k7.mavetju> <20080312112042.GA22657@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080312112042.GA22657@eos.sc1.parodius.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Johan Str?m Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:26:10 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:20:42AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:16:48PM +1100, Edwin Groothuis wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:52:44AM +0100, Johan Str?m wrote: > > > Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, > > > which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random > > > hangups, crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. > > > > Try the -proliant mailinglist at freebsd-proliant@freebsd.org. > > > > For what it is worth, we have a nice batch of DL380s here in the > > racks, all running 6.3 now and that is a nice improvement over the > > <6.3 ones. > > I'm curious -- do these machines behave similarly to Sun and others, > where you're forced to use disks that come directly from HP rather than > being able to buy your own and use them? Honest answer: we buy everything from HP for them. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis | Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org edwin@mavetju.org | Weblog: http://www.mavetju.org/weblog/ From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:26:48 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B8E1065676 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F1A8FC2E for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:26:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41BEBEF6D; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:26:46 +0200 (EET) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 39638-04; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:26:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52869BEF0E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:26:45 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D7BDF3.9030508@bulinfo.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:26:43 +0200 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:26:48 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Johan Ström wrote: > Hello! > > Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, > which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random hangups, > crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. > What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) > and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. I have some DL360 G5 (3.0GHz E53xx) with 8G, 4x146G SAS and P400i and they work perfect with 7.0 (amd64) and sched ULE! > I've googled and looked through the list archives trying to find success > stories/problem reports using FreeBSD on this box, but haven't found > very much.. Only thing was Try to find "Performance!" thread on this list > http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html which says > "Functional" which isnt very informative ;) > > So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i)? > Yes, P400i works fine with ciss(4) driver > Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with 6.3... > Load will be a couple of jails mainly running apache + php + mysql (or > at least thats where the load will be). 7.0 with sched ULE is fine. > > Thanks! > > -- > Johan Ström > Stromnet > johan@stromnet.se > http://www.stromnet.se/ > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFH173zxJBWvpalMpkRAvCrAJ43HYhR+BKHvSw5obFPbEk5dfljsACgrxpL K7kwfSf9kRAFSz04Saemojw= =wwMg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:35:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E924106567B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from angel.ticketswitch.com (angel.ticketswitch.com [IPv6:2002:57e0:1d4e::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AF48FC17 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from [10.50.50.2] (helo=smaug.rattatosk) by angel.ticketswitch.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JZPFI-0007d3-P6; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:44 +0000 Received: from dilbert.rattatosk ([10.50.50.6] helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by smaug.rattatosk with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JZPFI-0001Xl-Mo; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:44 +0000 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JZPFI-000Diz-Ml; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:44 +0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, johan@stromnet.se In-Reply-To: Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:44 +0000 Cc: Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:35:46 -0000 > What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) > and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. ... > So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i)? We have around 20 machines like that and they work beautifully. We run 7.0/amd64 on the machines now, but we have run 6.2/i386 in the past and that work fine - though you will only be able to use the first 3.5 gig of RAM. > Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with We run 7.0 on these machines and it works fine - I always prefer 7.0 to 6.3 on SMP machines as it performs better. Also 7.0 works well with the iLO on these machines - I seem to recall when I installed 6.X that it didn't work too well and I had to use boot floppy images. I'd say go for 7.0 and amd64 if you can. -pete. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 11:57:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A036D1065670 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:57:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E278FC1C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:57:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2CBTkSC010603; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:29:46 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m2CBTkmm010602; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:29:46 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:29:46 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: Anton - Valqk , stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080312112946.GA10519@svzserv.kemerovo.su> References: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> <20080312110648.GA58063@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080312110648.GA58063@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Help choosing a good PCI PIDE controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:57:20 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:06:48PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > I have had good experiences with the Promise Ultra100 TX2. > The Promise Ultra133 TX2 should be even better, but I have no personal > experience with it. (Apart from the slightly higher speed, the Ultra133 > should be able to handle large disks out of the box, while the Ultra100 > needed a firmware update to handle disks larger than 128GiB.) My copy of Ultra100 TX2 handles such larger disks out of the box pretty well. Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 12:04:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4506010656E8 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09DE8FC22 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:04:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-253-25-183.bredband.comhem.se ([83.253.25.183]:62897 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JZPhD-0008Ro-65 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:04:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 19574 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2008 13:04:33 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 12 Mar 2008 13:04:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 58556 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Mar 2008 13:04:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:04:33 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <20080312120433.GA58516@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Eugene Grosbein , Anton - Valqk , stable@freebsd.org References: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> <20080312110648.GA58063@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20080312112946.GA10519@svzserv.kemerovo.su> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080312112946.GA10519@svzserv.kemerovo.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Originating-IP: 83.253.25.183 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1JZPhD-0008Ro-65. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1JZPhD-0008Ro-65 7923888586dfc5d0d16c6005deace419 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Anton - Valqk Subject: Re: Help choosing a good PCI PIDE controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:04:37 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 06:29:46PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 12:06:48PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > I have had good experiences with the Promise Ultra100 TX2. > > The Promise Ultra133 TX2 should be even better, but I have no personal > > experience with it. (Apart from the slightly higher speed, the Ultra133 > > should be able to handle large disks out of the box, while the Ultra100 > > needed a firmware update to handle disks larger than 128GiB.) > > My copy of Ultra100 TX2 handles such larger disks out of the box pretty well. It is probably the case that older Ultra100-TX2 units needed the firmware update, while those manufactured at a later date shipped with the newer firmware already installed. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 12:07:54 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E65D106566C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8218FC14 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kometen@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so877796anc.13 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:07:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9R4yaGx6mOUAcoHbDomcYed5OuxpxQNczFyyyOs/YqM=; b=sTD0RcJbkaJlYF9fYqQEoRcIZ+0HFTDiDP0TJSjmVJXp+SppE0WlEN1a0wofyqjjwN2ptoRsVie7Kd5rCOqLQ3CaNL6w51gXMTwBZuYOEMdq8cyKbeAuAvOQO3VGIi9OOB9AyMWQQIc4/7kzZjEKXKBbH+aDF9EIuGTLnmYTymI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UgicuIe0d1a5jmREFpOyX7n/8NOAZXyfKvJ0hcGPLh0aJDEEPXjBXrp+vpJhOhno4HNijWx1JYrUze8c67byaTTg82YnBGImM6tSYdWjOlAUqAn06Ggh7CxuyDTRfzV8nVQ1AsOuvevPeGLuxlzXMxTGDw3M5jPehKh9QLEPRHc= Received: by 10.100.48.16 with SMTP id v16mr16086921anv.67.1205322042780; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.228.15 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:40:42 +0100 From: "Claus Guttesen" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?=" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:07:54 -0000 > What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) > and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. > I've googled and looked through the list archives trying to find > success stories/problem reports using FreeBSD on this box, but haven't > found very much.. Only thing was http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html > which says "Functional" which isnt very informative ;) > > So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i)? > > Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with > 6.3... Load will be a couple of jails mainly running apache + php + > mysql (or at least thats where the load will be). Works like a charm. I have one DL360 with 2 x quad-core (E5345) with 16 GB ram and one p400i- and one p800-controller. This is running FreeBSD 7.0 release. This is running postgresql 8.3. I have another DL360 with 8 GB ram and one p400i-controller runnning apache. No hassles with the server. I also have a DL380 which ran 7.0 beta2 without problems. -- regards Claus When lenity and cruelty play for a kingdom, the gentlest gamester is the soonest winner. Shakespeare From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 12:36:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 260E2106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6EB8FC12 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 9908 invoked by uid 1001); 12 Mar 2008 13:36:02 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:36:02 +0100 Message-ID: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:36:12 -0000 Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't find any docs in man fdisk or boot0cfg. -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 12:46:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F00106566C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7818FC17 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZQLd-0005a3-Jc for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:21 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:21 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:21 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:50:37 +0100 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1ACF1401B471E0EFD37309EF" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:46:25 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1ACF1401B471E0EFD37309EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marko Lerota wrote: > Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. > How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't=20 > find any docs in man fdisk or boot0cfg. You mean the "F1 prompt" is garbled? You could, technically, remove the loader but I don't think there's a tool for it; you can replace it with something else, or mark the partition non-active. In any case you'll need to boot from a live / fixit CD, then either use fdisk, boot0cfg or some other way (I had nice experiences with sysutils/extipl) to replace the boot loader. --------------enig1ACF1401B471E0EFD37309EF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH19GildnAQVacBcgRAv7AAKCRyH6fhwX/6WjjmVzZzu4jfMzrFgCgg3+/ b3kfxJiar46ZVBlzFVCzP/g= =nKe4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1ACF1401B471E0EFD37309EF-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 12:49:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD541065675 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from cascavel.ensmp.fr (cascavel.ensmp.fr [194.214.158.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25808FC17 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr) Received: from [10.3.5.5] (minho [10.3.5.5]) (authenticated bits=0) by cascavel.ensmp.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/JMMC-23/Mar/2006) with ESMTP id m2CCnTOe025264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:49:29 +0100 (MET) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.4.2 cascavel.ensmp.fr m2CCnTOe025264 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ensmp.fr; s=default; t=1205326170; bh=PgSiW7w5y1YDgWaDGuWB4fPj53Ctn44IpREWR7imqfs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC: Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qOBddK6AwdVIFCOfyD6XffIvrnxsK6fiHkFYE AjOTd4m5M+eXiZ5l6x9mpReJJx5xyP0+nvlLZLMTy46s4TtBPuRxXVpI2RKYuV2GpvF y7yv53MF3TBPvwQW1HDlMARljyHsC8vuzjrMDcdSNTpXcm2dWWq0bMN1DhvHB/qsyD8 = Message-ID: <47D7D159.3060100@ensmp.fr> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:49:29 +0100 From: Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080208 Fedora/1.1.8-1.fc7 SeaMonkey/1.1.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marko Lerota References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> In-Reply-To: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Miltered: at cascavel with ID 47D7D159.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail . ensmp . fr)! X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 47D7D159.000 on cascavel : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Jose-Marcio.Martins@ensmp.fr List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:49:32 -0000 Marko Lerota wrote: > Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. > How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't > find any docs in man fdisk or boot0cfg. > Some years ago, you could do that booting from a MS-DOS disk and launching : fdisk /mbr Don't know if this hint still works. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 13:00:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136F2106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34548FC13 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:00:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZQYv-0006Hd-Dc for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:00:05 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:00:05 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:00:05 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:25 +0100 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <47D7D159.3060100@ensmp.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig87059FFA0E8E9F46064D1FE5" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <47D7D159.3060100@ensmp.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:00:10 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig87059FFA0E8E9F46064D1FE5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: > Marko Lerota wrote: >> Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. >> How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't find any docs >> in man fdisk or boot0cfg. >> >=20 > Some years ago, you could do that booting from a MS-DOS disk and > launching : >=20 > fdisk /mbr >=20 > Don't know if this hint still works. Wouldn't this replace the boot loader with the one from MS-DOS? --------------enig87059FFA0E8E9F46064D1FE5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFH19TZldnAQVacBcgRAjqYAKDihkwqU7LIH+BJxtn/4lHnVqALXACg2B4y WcgdFjoozhaIaqM4H807OEE= =ro3H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig87059FFA0E8E9F46064D1FE5-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 13:22:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDA31065673 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48C88FC27 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A06D11CC06A; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:22:22 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Marko Lerota Message-ID: <20080312132222.GA25157@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:22:23 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 01:36:02PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: > Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. > How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't > find any docs in man fdisk or boot0cfg. You want "boot0cfg -b /boot/mbr ", where is something like ad4, da0, etc.. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 13:33:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0233C106566C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail.irbisnet.ru (mail.irbisnet.ru [IPv6:2001:470:1f09:aa:203:baff:fe18:f4c1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7865B8FC14 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:33:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([85.172.11.31]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.irbisnet.ru (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2CDXLmB075459 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:33:23 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Message-ID: <47D7DB73.6010907@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:32:35 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <20080312132222.GA25157@eos.sc1.parodius.com> In-Reply-To: <20080312132222.GA25157@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:33:25 -0000 Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 01:36:02PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: >> Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. >> How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't >> find any docs in man fdisk or boot0cfg. > > You want "boot0cfg -b /boot/mbr ", where is something like > ad4, da0, etc.. > boot0cfg can't install `mbr', you need to use fdisk for that as shown in boot0cfg(8) manpage, EXAMPLES section. Yuri From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 14:56:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F93106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (www.svzserv.kemerovo.su [213.184.65.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467FD8FC13 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: from www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2CEud5M030317; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:56:39 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen@www.svzserv.kemerovo.su) Received: (from eugen@localhost) by www.svzserv.kemerovo.su (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m2CEud1v030316; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:56:39 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from eugen) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:56:39 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein To: Anton - Valqk , stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080312145639.GA30033@svzserv.kemerovo.su> References: <47D7B223.6080108@lozenetz.org> <20080312110648.GA58063@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20080312112946.GA10519@svzserv.kemerovo.su> <20080312120433.GA58516@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080312120433.GA58516@owl.midgard.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: Subject: Re: Help choosing a good PCI PIDE controller X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:56:44 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 01:04:33PM +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > > > I have had good experiences with the Promise Ultra100 TX2. > > > The Promise Ultra133 TX2 should be even better, but I have no personal > > > experience with it. (Apart from the slightly higher speed, the Ultra133 > > > should be able to handle large disks out of the box, while the Ultra100 > > > needed a firmware update to handle disks larger than 128GiB.) > > > > My copy of Ultra100 TX2 handles such larger disks out of the box pretty well. > It is probably the case that older Ultra100-TX2 units needed the firmware > update, while those manufactured at a later date shipped with the newer > firmware already installed. Yes :-) My controlled had firmware version newer that on-site one when it came. Eugene Grosbein From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 15:12:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BDB106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33938FC14 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:12:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2CEZDLe024909; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m2CEZ43k024898; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:35:04 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Tom Judge Message-ID: <20080312143504.GA24765@dragon.NUXI.org> References: <47D1668E.1070007@tomjudge.com> <47D1D2F2.6070204@delphij.net> <47D45453.5020100@tomjudge.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47D45453.5020100@tomjudge.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, d@delphij.net Subject: Re: RELENG_7_0 buildworld failure on read only source tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:12:52 -0000 On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 04:19:15PM -0500, Tom Judge wrote: > Thanks for the response, it was indeed just a case of touching > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/contrib/Makefile. Do you have the information > about the relevent change sets that fix this? Then I can merge this fix to > my local tree. You need to add .POSIX: to the top of /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cvs/contrib/Makefile. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 16:05:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CC6106566C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1028FC19 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2CG5a7k052121; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:05:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2CG5Z6q052120; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:05:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:05:35 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803121605.m2CG5Z6q052120@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, johan@stromnet.se In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:05:37 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, johan@stromnet.se List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:05:38 -0000 Johan Ström wrote: > What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) > and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. We have exactly that combination. You can find dmesg, pciconf, DMI etc. here: http://www.secnetix.de/olli/dmesg/hp-dl360g5/ Those machines work very well with both FreeBSD 6 and 7. If you install FreeBSD 7, remember to enable ULE instead of the default BSD scheduler. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "To this day, many C programmers believe that 'strong typing' just means pounding extra hard on the keyboard." -- Peter van der Linden From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 16:58:15 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52BA1065673 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) Received: from osl1smout1.broadpark.no (osl1smout1.broadpark.no [80.202.4.58]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667B28FC1B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:58:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Received: from osl1sminn1.broadpark.no ([80.202.4.59]) by osl1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0JXM006WUN4K0K00@osl1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:57:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.173.59]) by osl1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-3.01 (built Jul 12 2007; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0JXM007K5N4K5N01@osl1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:57:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:57:55 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <20080312175755.80371176.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> In-reply-to: References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <47D7D159.3060100@ensmp.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq; m"_0v; ~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:58:15 -0000 On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:04:25 +0100 Ivan Voras wrote: > Wouldn't this replace the boot loader with the one from MS-DOS? Yes, it will. But unless the OP wants the specific boot loader from and MS-DOS disk, he can get the same effect _without_ usinf non-FreeBSD tools by using fdisk -B as explained by a few others in this thread. Obviously, the OP might have to boot from a livefs CD if he can't boot the system otherwise. -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 18:47:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96256106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559388FC25 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZVz0-0007YB-CT for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:22 +0000 Received: from murdoc.gwi.net ([207.5.142.8]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:22 +0000 Received: from jcoombs by murdoc.gwi.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:22 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Joshua Coombs Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:47:16 -0400 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <1204313564l.249966l.0l@psu.edu> <7E228F3A-DFE0-4071-8694-14A012CC21E1@gothic.net.au> <1204575279l.807074l.0l@psu.edu> <47D1735D.60007@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: murdoc.gwi.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7 buildworld error X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:47:24 -0000 Joshua Coombs wrote: > As a follow up: > > I setup a fresh 7.0 install in a VM and played with it. Using my > make.conf, I showed cc1 using 130MB when compiling insn-attrtab.c. I > tweaked the VM conf down to 32MB of RAM and redid the compile, and other > than taking forever due to swapping, it again churned past > insn-attrtab.c using 130MB successfully. > > My next test is going to be simulating the swap setup I've got on my > 386. Rather than one 384MB swap partition, I have three 128MB swap > partitions, one per drive. My theory was I'd see some small boost when > swapping by spreading the work load. Turns out it doesn't help, I > bottleneck on the ISA bus, transferring 1.5MB/sec max no matter how I > spread the work across the drives. When I re-partition I'll just pick > one drive to hold all swap. > > That said, given how I butted up against a limit suspiciously close to > the size of my swap partitions, rather than the 512MB data size limit > reports, thats my next guess as to the cause, swap isn't allowing single > processes to page into multiple swap pools? > > Josh C I can now confirm, using two 128MB swap partitions, plus a third 2GB partition, with 32MB of ram configured results in buildworld's failing, just using a 2GB swap partition works. Josh C From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 19:04:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BAC91065675 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D378FC2E for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.8s) with ESMTP id 235218636-1834499 for multiple; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:02:32 -0400 Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2CJ4L2E016962; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:04:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:52:07 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803121452.07780.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:04:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/6212/Wed Mar 12 12:26:20 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Ivan Voras Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:04:32 -0000 On Wednesday 12 March 2008 07:22:14 am Ivan Voras wrote: > Ivan Voras wrote: > > Johan Str=F6m wrote: > >=20 > >> So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i= )? > >> > >> Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with 6.3.= =2E. > >> Load will be a couple of jails mainly running apache + php + mysql (or > >> at least thats where the load will be). > >=20 > > It's not an exact match but ML 370 G5 with the same RAID card works fine > > under 7.0, for almost the same load, after flashing the latest BIOS for > > everything. >=20 > One more addition: I needed to use sys/extipl boot loader instead of the > standard one. That should be fixed with the latest BTX btw. =2D-=20 John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 19:28:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26BD1065678 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBC48FC31 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivoras@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id c49so2399525wra.19 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:28:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=wmNMAgUrVqHlX8jFCYJSA2C+8G+YllVdyedY/m2RABs=; b=bNEdgTbtjCSB2MQ06sX3f/ljETcJIletg5RLAsR0nP2J3xn0KVzIKDWBvpuUWz10Lf+1D3yyPRH/sqt3OIWZKB0Wgehgy6Rv/zL2aDx6RYdVSBo8LLfXL0JTs4pxTln0e9rMANLnCc7i6ZOdC54jXAdJhNCG64dKWL+tqobfxV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PPlowc0wJIGW0bzd2q8phjMqr31Wn40L0ieuinwA1IvNmf2ueS8z9pJ7o2uFDWpXQ70WpfGJhiq7/kirxOue8K1HeB6a5OGwj5WB9H+ISu9/T3HikM8FD1NrDA9zv9/jKfkDFqMGPIbBULtq+7bKfVTZjNtoEgMBzRug3ftKd5I= Received: by 10.140.208.14 with SMTP id f14mr5385004rvg.204.1205350131755; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.212.1 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9bbcef730803121228y11e57774s9fa35d4bfebef79e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:28:51 +0100 From: "Ivan Voras" Sender: ivoras@gmail.com To: "John Baldwin" In-Reply-To: <200803121452.07780.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803121452.07780.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d70f41d7646dd09e Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:28:53 -0000 On 12/03/2008, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2008 07:22:14 am Ivan Voras wrote: > > One more addition: I needed to use sys/extipl boot loader instead of the > > standard one. > > That should be fixed with the latest BTX btw. I haven't followed the BTX thread closely, but from what I remember it was about not crashing in BTX (with a register-dump) when calling BIOS from vm86 mode (or the other way around). This is not the problem I had with two of my Proliant machines - my problems were that the BTX couldn't locate the next-stage loader - choosing "F1" at the prompt would result in a "beep" signal and a loop back to the F1 prompt. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 20:29:21 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4C010656C3; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CCC8FC20; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.8s) with ESMTP id 235230193-1834499 for multiple; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:27:14 -0400 Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2CKT0sA017578; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: "Ivan Voras" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:13:56 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200803121452.07780.jhb@freebsd.org> <9bbcef730803121228y11e57774s9fa35d4bfebef79e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730803121228y11e57774s9fa35d4bfebef79e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803121613.56472.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:29:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/6218/Wed Mar 12 15:07:21 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:29:21 -0000 On Wednesday 12 March 2008 03:28:51 pm Ivan Voras wrote: > On 12/03/2008, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 March 2008 07:22:14 am Ivan Voras wrote: > > > > One more addition: I needed to use sys/extipl boot loader instead of the > > > standard one. > > > > That should be fixed with the latest BTX btw. > > I haven't followed the BTX thread closely, but from what I remember it > was about not crashing in BTX (with a register-dump) when calling BIOS > from vm86 mode (or the other way around). This is not the problem I > had with two of my Proliant machines - my problems were that the BTX > couldn't locate the next-stage loader - choosing "F1" at the prompt > would result in a "beep" signal and a loop back to the F1 prompt. Ah. The machine I was thinking of is a DL 185 that had a BTX fault that now works ok. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 21:57:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44BEA1065670 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C07C8FC1F for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:57:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 9315D1A4D8B; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:56:24 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Ivan Voras Message-ID: <20080312215624.GR67856@elvis.mu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Approaching the limit on PV entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:57:18 -0000 * Ivan Voras [080311 08:46] wrote: > During heavy postgresql load (pgbench), /var/log/messages registers > (multiple times) the following message: > > "Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the > vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl" > > I'm increasing both, but no matter what I increase them to, after a > short time they again get increased by the system (???). > > The values are currently: > > vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 1134 > vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 8000000 > > But the last sysctl setting, verified by retrieving it from my shell > command line history, is that I set vm.pmap.shpgperproc to 800. > > Is this normal, and what are the common settings for these values? The > machine is 2x4-core, currently 4 GB RAM (which will increase to at least > 6 GB), amd64, running postgresql, php and apache. > try setting: sysctl kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 -- - Alfred Perlstein From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 21:57:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76311065670 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A811B8FC22 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F18CD4640F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f52hi7WSmW9q; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9251D46414; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:13 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: Pete French In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:57:41 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:57:46 -0000 First of all, nice with all these positive answers! Thank you all (without responding to each and every post:))! On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Pete French wrote: >> What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) >> and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. > ... >> So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / >> P400i)? > > We have around 20 machines like that and they work beautifully. We > run 7.0/amd64 on the machines now, but we have run 6.2/i386 in the > past > and that work fine - though you will only be able to use the first > 3.5 gig of RAM. I don't have any plans on running i368, running amd64 on the supermicro box now without any problems (that I can relate to that at least). How long have you run 7.0 (before release)? From all the other responses it seems lots of ppl use 7.0 on these without any problems at all. > > >> Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with > > We run 7.0 on these machines and it works fine - I always prefer 7.0 > to 6.3 on SMP machines as it performs better. Also 7.0 works well with > the iLO on these machines - I seem to recall when I installed 6.X that > it didn't work too well and I had to use boot floppy images. I'd say > go for 7.0 and amd64 if you can. This is where I'm a bit curious. What OS interaction does iLO do? That needs to be "compatible" i mean. On my current box I got a IPMI card that gives me (when its working..) SOL capabilities.. To what degree can I remote control with iLO? If I've understood correct, I get the exact console as on screen with kb access, over web/ssh/telnet. Is this working good? This is one of my important points for changing since its so crappy on my current box, and when the box is a couple of miles away its quite nice to have it working flawlessly.. iLO over internet? Possible, impossible? Encryption? (yes i know, not exactly freebsd related questions but.. ) Another thing, how is it with physical monitoring? Temperatures/ fanspeeds/voltage? Thank you (all)! :) -- Johan From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 22:03:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2041065671 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122C08FC15 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:03:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0646D46411; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K468zbUC3twe; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF3ED4640F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:07 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5A19EFD5-7286-41A7-84F9-F11319D6FBA4@stromnet.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: Krassimir Slavchev In-Reply-To: <47D7BDF3.9030508@bulinfo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:03:34 +0100 References: <47D7BDF3.9030508@bulinfo.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:03:42 -0000 On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Johan Str=F6m wrote: >> Hello! >> >> Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, >> which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random =20 >> hangups, >> crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. >> What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) >> and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. > > I have some DL360 G5 (3.0GHz E53xx) with 8G, 4x146G SAS and P400i and > they work perfect with 7.0 (amd64) and sched ULE! > >> I've googled and looked through the list archives trying to find =20 >> success >> stories/problem reports using FreeBSD on this box, but haven't found >> very much.. Only thing was > > Try to find "Performance!" thread on this list Found it, but the main point seemed to be dont compile postgres stuff =20= with incompatible threadsafeness? Or did I miss something? http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg92787.html > > >> http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html which says >> "Functional" which isnt very informative ;) >> >> So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / =20 >> P400i)? >> > > Yes, P400i works fine with ciss(4) driver Can i offline/online drives, rebuild arrays etc from the OS? Thank you! From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 22:27:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD1471065670 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from angel.ticketswitch.com (angel.ticketswitch.com [IPv6:2002:57e0:1d4e::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D658FC20 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from [10.50.50.2] (helo=smaug.rattatosk) by angel.ticketswitch.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JZZPk-000IKk-F9; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:12 +0000 Received: from dilbert.rattatosk ([10.50.50.6] helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by smaug.rattatosk with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JZZPk-0009pU-CB; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:12 +0000 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JZZPk-0001oc-Bz; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:12 +0000 To: johan@stromnet.se In-Reply-To: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:12 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:13 -0000 > How long have you run 7.0 (before release)? From all the other > responses it seems lots of ppl use 7.0 on these without any problems > at all. I've been running it since last september - never had any problem with it, and am pretty convinced it is stable. > This is where I'm a bit curious. What OS interaction does iLO do? That > needs to be "compatible" i mean. Booting from the CD - I had one FreeBSD/iLO combination which would noit boot from the emulated CD. I needed to use the floppies and do a network install. That was painful - I can't remember the version though. Certainly I have had no such probelsm with 7.0 and the latest iLO. > SOL capabilities.. To what degree can I remote control with iLO? If It acts as a complete console - just as if you were sitting in front of the machine. You can see the screen, use keyboard and mouse, and attack images as CD's or floppies. > iLO over internet? Possible, impossible? Encryption? (yes i know, not > exactly freebsd related questions but.. ) iLO runs over https so is encrypted. It does run better from a Windows client than anything else sadly - but I keep a wWindows box around for this purpose. Have just installed a set of machines somewhere in Louisianna remotely, whilst sitting in bed in London with a cup of tea : using an OSX laptop :-) I love iLO... -pete. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 22:32:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF27106566C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from tensor.andric.com (cl-327.ede-01.nl.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:7b8:2ff:146::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573708FC22 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitry@andric.com) Received: from [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:e948:e92a:e16e:f3f3] (unknown [IPv6:2001:7b8:3a7:0:e948:e92a:e16e:f3f3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FB83E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:32:47 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <47D85A10.7090403@andric.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:32:48 +0100 From: Dimitry Andric User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.13pre (Windows/20080308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Yuri Pankov References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <20080312132222.GA25157@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <47D7DB73.6010907@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <47D7DB73.6010907@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:32:49 -0000 On 2008-03-12 14:32, Yuri Pankov wrote: > boot0cfg can't install `mbr', you need to use fdisk for that as shown in > boot0cfg(8) manpage, EXAMPLES section. He'll probably need to enable geom footshooting too... :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 22:37:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D891065670 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@osoft.us) Received: from mail.osoft.us (osoft.us [67.14.192.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866C58FC14 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@osoft.us) Received: from [10.0.2.105] (adsl-65-67-81-98.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net [65.67.81.98]) by mail.osoft.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432E833C8E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:37:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:37:27 -0500 From: Joe Koberg User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> In-Reply-To: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:37:39 -0000 The iLO is a completely separate management processor with its own network port. It runs its own OS and has its own IP address. It runs an SSL webserver for access. The iLO is accessible over the network any time the machine is plugged into power. I am not sure about IPMI access to it. The "normal" iLO option will give you exact textual console screen output and keyboard control from the moment of power-on. It will also let you toggle power and hit the reset button. I believe it uses a java applet in the browser. The "advanced" iLO option, which is license-key-unlocked, also provides graphical remote console, and virtual media. You can upload a CD or floppy image and then boot the server from it. I suspect the compatibility issue appears here - the virtual media probably emulates USB mass storage, and the OS must be able to boot from it. It has full reporting of hardware state and management log details, and the "home page" is a big summary with any faults outlined in red. In this data center we probably have 1500 HP machines with iLO. I find it an effective and reliable remote access method. We definitely prefer it using it to our Avocent IP KVMs. Joe Koberg joe at osoft dot us Johan Ström wrote: > First of all, nice with all these positive answers! Thank you all > (without responding to each and every post:))! > > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:35 PM, Pete French wrote: > >>> What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) >>> and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. >> ... >>> So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / >>> P400i)? >> >> We have around 20 machines like that and they work beautifully. We >> run 7.0/amd64 on the machines now, but we have run 6.2/i386 in the past >> and that work fine - though you will only be able to use the first >> 3.5 gig of RAM. > > I don't have any plans on running i368, running amd64 on the > supermicro box now without any problems (that I can relate to that at > least). > > How long have you run 7.0 (before release)? From all the other > responses it seems lots of ppl use 7.0 on these without any problems > at all. > >> >> >>> Furthermore, anyone run 7.0 on this? Or should I still stick with >> >> We run 7.0 on these machines and it works fine - I always prefer 7.0 >> to 6.3 on SMP machines as it performs better. Also 7.0 works well with >> the iLO on these machines - I seem to recall when I installed 6.X that >> it didn't work too well and I had to use boot floppy images. I'd say >> go for 7.0 and amd64 if you can. > > This is where I'm a bit curious. What OS interaction does iLO do? That > needs to be "compatible" i mean. > On my current box I got a IPMI card that gives me (when its working..) > SOL capabilities.. To what degree can I remote control with iLO? If > I've understood correct, I get the exact console as on screen with kb > access, over web/ssh/telnet. Is this working good? This is one of my > important points for changing since its so crappy on my current box, > and when the box is a couple of miles away its quite nice to have it > working flawlessly.. > iLO over internet? Possible, impossible? Encryption? (yes i know, not > exactly freebsd related questions but.. ) > > > Another thing, how is it with physical monitoring? > Temperatures/fanspeeds/voltage? > > Thank you (all)! :) > > -- > Johan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 22:41:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ADC106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A088FC1C for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:41:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86952D4640F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:18 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3x-kH4qTULef; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F024D46414; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:16 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <116832FE-25A5-4A35-A7B8-82EA104BCFF5@stromnet.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: Pete French In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:43 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:41:48 -0000 On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Pete French wrote: >> How long have you run 7.0 (before release)? From all the other >> responses it seems lots of ppl use 7.0 on these without any problems >> at all. > > I've been running it since last september - never had any problem with > it, and am pretty convinced it is stable. Sounds good :) > > >> This is where I'm a bit curious. What OS interaction does iLO do? >> That >> needs to be "compatible" i mean. > > Booting from the CD - I had one FreeBSD/iLO combination which would > noit > boot from the emulated CD. I needed to use the floppies and do a > network > install. That was painful - I can't remember the version though. > Certainly > I have had no such probelsm with 7.0 and the latest iLO. I see.. well if i ever need to boot from cd (reinstall) this box i'll probably do it with local access anyway.. > > >> SOL capabilities.. To what degree can I remote control with iLO? If > > It acts as a complete console - just as if you were sitting in front > of the machine. You can see the screen, use keyboard and mouse, and > attack images as CD's or floppies. > > >> iLO over internet? Possible, impossible? Encryption? (yes i know, not >> exactly freebsd related questions but.. ) > > iLO runs over https so is encrypted. It does run better from a Windows > client than anything else sadly - but I keep a wWindows box around > for this purpose. Have just installed a set of machines somewhere in > Louisianna remotely, whilst sitting in bed in London with a cup of > tea : > using an OSX laptop :-) I love iLO... Just what I thought then. Thanks :) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 23:24:32 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56442106566B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:24:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71848FC14 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:24:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210B8D46427; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:24:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pPvOOA61B4Kt; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:23:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB9AD46405; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:23:59 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: Joe Koberg In-Reply-To: <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:24:27 +0100 References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:24:32 -0000 On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:37 PM, Joe Koberg wrote: > The iLO is a completely separate management processor with its own =20 > network port. It runs its own OS and has its own IP address. It runs =20= > an SSL webserver for access. The iLO is accessible over the network =20= > any time the machine is plugged into power. I am not sure about =20 > IPMI access to it. Okay, kind of what I "expected" (havent read up very much on it yet). > > > The "normal" iLO option will give you exact textual console screen =20 > output and keyboard control from the moment of power-on. It will =20 > also let you toggle power and hit the reset button. I believe it =20 > uses a java applet in the browser. > > The "advanced" iLO option, which is license-key-unlocked, also =20 > provides graphical remote console, and virtual media. You can upload =20= > a CD or floppy image and then boot the server from it. I suspect =20 > the compatibility issue appears here - the virtual media probably =20 > emulates USB mass storage, and the OS must be able to boot from it. I see... So for a box that is going to run fbsd in console mode, and =20 hopefully never need to boot from CD after install, it sounds like the =20= normal mode will work splendid. But.. = http://bizsupport.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00553302/c0= 0553302.pdf=20 seems to tell me that in basic mode I can only access BIOS (pre-OS) =20= using the Remote Console feature, and that after POST I have to have =20 the advanced licensed option? "iLO 2 displays this information through the remote console applet =20 while in the server pre-operating system state, enabling a non-licensed iLO 2 to observe and interact with the =20= server during POST activities. A non- licensed iLO 2 cannot use remote console access after the server =20 completes POST and begins to load the operating system. The iLO 2 Advanced License enables access to the =20 remote console at all times." So.. Then what? I have to configure FreeBSD to use a serial console =20 and continue with using serial console instead? Later in the same doc: =95 iLO 2 Standard (unlicensed:) NOTE: The features annotated with an asterisk (*) are not supported =20 on all systems. o Virtual Power and Reset control o Remote serial console through POST only ... o Serial access* Am i missing something here or will I only be able to access the =20 console during post, unless i configure the box to use a serial =20 console? Hope you can shed some light here :) > > > It has full reporting of hardware state and management log details, =20= > and the "home page" is a big summary with any faults outlined in red. Yes, that was what I expected. But can i retreive the data some other =20= way? IPMI, SNMP or something? Would like to gather the stats to a =20 central management site. Further investigation in the manual seems to =20= indicate that no SNMP access is available, but there is some XML =20 "RIBCL" interface I can use (yes this is in standard mode too :)) Thank you! -- Johan= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 23:41:00 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180241065672 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@osoft.us) Received: from mail.osoft.us (osoft.us [67.14.192.59]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DB18FC19 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from joe@osoft.us) Received: from [10.0.2.105] (adsl-65-67-81-98.dsl.ltrkar.swbell.net [65.67.81.98]) by mail.osoft.us (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3941B33C45; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:40:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <47D86A01.8070500@osoft.us> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:40:49 -0500 From: Joe Koberg User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061104) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1252?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:00 -0000 Johan Ström wrote: > But.. > http://bizsupport.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00553302/c00553302.pdf seems > to tell me that in basic mode I can only access BIOS (pre-OS) using > the Remote Console feature, and that after POST I have to have the > advanced licensed option? > I don't do the purchasing and we get all Advanced iLO, so I will take your word for it. The older generations supported text console (i have a 360G2 that does so). We use the HP Management agents under Windows for all SNMP reporting so I can't comment on the reporting method under other OS's. Joe From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 12 23:41:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5C91065670 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2D18FC1B for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609C0D46427; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:41:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X351FJ8ZuUty; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:41:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CC7D46405; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:41:25 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <67DB8948-8B91-4563-8D21-FAA88AB5AAD0@stromnet.se> From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: Joe Koberg In-Reply-To: <47D86A01.8070500@osoft.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:41:53 +0100 References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> <47D86A01.8070500@osoft.us> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:58 -0000 On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Joe Koberg wrote: > Johan Str=F6m wrote: >> But.. = http://bizsupport.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00553302/c0= 0553302.pdf=20 >> seems to tell me that in basic mode I can only access BIOS (pre-=20 >> OS) using the Remote Console feature, and that after POST I have to =20= >> have the advanced licensed option? >> > > I don't do the purchasing and we get all Advanced iLO, so I will =20 > take your word for it. The older generations supported text console =20= > (i have a 360G2 that does so). We use the HP Management agents =20 > under Windows for all SNMP reporting so I can't comment on the =20 > reporting method under other OS's. > I see. Can anyone else maybe shed some light here? Thanks= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 02:14:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C011065682 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9845C8FC1B for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:14:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2ADF71CC06E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:14:47 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Yuri Pankov Message-ID: <20080313021447.GA56671@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <20080312132222.GA25157@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <47D7DB73.6010907@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47D7DB73.6010907@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:14:47 -0000 On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 04:32:35PM +0300, Yuri Pankov wrote: > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 01:36:02PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: >>> Insted of F1 I get F-| on boot menu and system won't boot. >>> How do I remove FreeBSD boot manager from MBR? I didn't find any docs in >>> man fdisk or boot0cfg. >> >> You want "boot0cfg -b /boot/mbr ", where is something like >> ad4, da0, etc.. >> > > boot0cfg can't install `mbr', you need to use fdisk for that as shown in > boot0cfg(8) manpage, EXAMPLES section. Oops -- yep, you're right! Guess I missed that part. :-) -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 07:14:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD15106566B for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C8C8FC17 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:14:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167DDD4640F; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:13:43 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rbJPWvB-JYUb; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:13:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC91D46405; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:13:40 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <4B137563-3F0C-4E93-82C2-D34FFCA2A448@stromnet.se> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: Sean Winn In-Reply-To: <4356DD9F-7620-4551-A06D-EB6E690A844F@gothic.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:14:07 +0100 References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> <47D86A01.8070500@osoft.us> <67DB8948-8B91-4563-8D21-FAA88AB5AAD0@stromnet.se> <4356DD9F-7620-4551-A06D-EB6E690A844F@gothic.net.au> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:14:12 -0000 On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Sean Winn wrote: > For using HP blades and standard iLO (no licensed advance features), =20= > it works perfectly well, installing both FreeBSD 5 and 6 on the =20 > blades I've tried, using a remote install CD from the Java applet =20 > (there's one for remote devices like disks, and one for remote =20 > console); there's only text mode but that's plenty to install the OS =20= > and enable it to the point of using SSH to manage it from there on =20 > in. I'd hope the iLO hardware/software is relatively common to all =20 > the HP range :) > > text mode access continues at all times - the iLO interface is just =20= > a remote screen/keyboard onto it, even POST BIOS boot. The external =20= > devices are USB mass storage ones, but I didn't have problems =20 > booting off the CD and installing it for 6.2. Well.. The blades seems to be an exception: =95 iLO 2 Standard Blade Edition (unlicensed blade server): o Remote Console and IRC This is not listed under "iLO 2 Standard (unlicensed:)"... I guess =20 that means I'm out of luck unless I want to bang up another $400 =20 (listing price).. Which I'd rather not :) Anyone running those 360G5's using serial console on a normal licensed =20= iLO? > > > The iLO web interface nominally requires/is tested only on Windows/=20 > IE setup, but I do my work from a Mac running Safari, and have no =20 > problems to date. > > On 13/03/2008, at 10:41 AM, Johan Str=F6m wrote: > >> On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:40 AM, Joe Koberg wrote: >> >>> Johan Str=F6m wrote: >>>> But.. = http://bizsupport.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c00553302/c0= 0553302.pdf=20 >>>> seems to tell me that in basic mode I can only access BIOS (pre-=20= >>>> OS) using the Remote Console feature, and that after POST I have =20= >>>> to have the advanced licensed option? >>>> >>> >>> I don't do the purchasing and we get all Advanced iLO, so I will =20 >>> take your word for it. The older generations supported text =20 >>> console (i have a 360G2 that does so). We use the HP Management =20= >>> agents under Windows for all SNMP reporting so I can't comment on =20= >>> the reporting method under other OS's. >>> >> >> I see. Can anyone else maybe shed some light here? >> >> Thanks_______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 >> " >> > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 09:30:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C369106567B for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from cs1.cs.huji.ac.il (cs1.cs.huji.ac.il [132.65.16.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD368FC1E for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@cs.huji.ac.il) Received: from pampa.cs.huji.ac.il ([132.65.80.32]) by cs1.cs.huji.ac.il with esmtp id 1JZjlT-000P9o-Uk; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:30:19 +0200 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 To: John Baldwin In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:09:51 -0400 . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:30:19 +0200 From: Danny Braniss Message-ID: Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:22 -0000 > On Sunday 09 March 2008 09:07:03 am Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > > > > Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I don't > > > use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). > > > > I used 'fdisk -B da0' to install /boot/mbr to the disk for testing. > > When I now boot the disk on the Acer laptop, it just displays one > > register dump followed by "BTX halted". > > You haven't updated boot2 (via bsdlabel -B) which sits in between boot0/mbr > and /boot/loader. > think you can apply the same magic to pxeldr? danny From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 09:30:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4AD1065678 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net (mx.bulinfo.net [193.194.156.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369C58FC1F for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCCB17AE2C; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:30:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from mx.bulinfo.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx.bulinfo.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 78492-09; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:30:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from [192.168.2.188] (pythia.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.5]) by mx.bulinfo.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A748B17AE24; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:30:19 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <47D8F427.8070406@bulinfo.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:30:15 +0200 From: Krassimir Slavchev User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071122) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= References: <47D7BDF3.9030508@bulinfo.net> <5A19EFD5-7286-41A7-84F9-F11319D6FBA4@stromnet.se> In-Reply-To: <5A19EFD5-7286-41A7-84F9-F11319D6FBA4@stromnet.se> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mx.bulinfo.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:30:24 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Johan Ström wrote: > On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Johan Ström wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> Im looking into getting a new server box to replace a Supermicro box, >>> which unfortunately have a bunch of problems with heat, random hangups, >>> crappy IPMI/remote admin capabilities etc.. >>> What I'm looking at is a DL360 G5, probably with one E5335 (quad 2.0) >>> and 4G of RAM and 4x 146Gb SAS disks on the Smart Array P400i card. >> >> I have some DL360 G5 (3.0GHz E53xx) with 8G, 4x146G SAS and P400i and >> they work perfect with 7.0 (amd64) and sched ULE! >> >>> I've googled and looked through the list archives trying to find success >>> stories/problem reports using FreeBSD on this box, but haven't found >>> very much.. Only thing was >> >> Try to find "Performance!" thread on this list > > Found it, but the main point seemed to be dont compile postgres stuff > with incompatible threadsafeness? Or did I miss something? > > http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg92787.html Yes, the main point is differ but the hardware is as yours and 7.0 works without issues. > >> >> >>> http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/amd64/motherboards.html which says >>> "Functional" which isnt very informative ;) >>> >>> So.. Does anyone have any experience with this combo (DL360 G5 / P400i)? >>> >> >> Yes, P400i works fine with ciss(4) driver > > Can i offline/online drives, rebuild arrays etc from the OS? You don't need to do anything from the OS, just pull out the drive an plug a new one or the same drive and arrays will be rebuilt automatically (without rebooting or power on/off! The system doesn't affected by this operation while running). I have never tested camcontrol(8) utility but it should work. Best Regards > > Thank you! > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFH2PQnxJBWvpalMpkRAru5AKCH4Kxcaf8Q7cQU8DTIq15m0JKraACcCQTQ SkCJTms5zKSO3KwyJusJ4Xg= =zvEW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 09:57:46 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F0EC106566B; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com (relay03.kiev.sovam.com [62.64.120.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BD78FC1A; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from [212.82.216.226] (helo=skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JZkBx-000L8G-M9; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:57:44 +0200 Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (root@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua [10.1.1.148]) by skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2D9v6MC083345 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:57:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (kostik@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2D9ur2w090789; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:56:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: (from kostik@localhost) by deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m2D9ur3S090788; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:56:53 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:56:53 +0200 From: Kostik Belousov To: Danny Braniss Message-ID: <20080313095653.GO10374@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xn9xNsWbHJd/50IB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.91.2, clamav-milter version 0.91.2 on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on skuns.kiev.zoral.com.ua X-Scanner-Signature: 669e5d776fa0e81a52da9f410dfff76f X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: kostikbel@gmail.com X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2396 [Mar 12 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, John Baldwin Subject: Re: BTX on USB pen drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:57:46 -0000 --xn9xNsWbHJd/50IB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 11:30:19AM +0200, Danny Braniss wrote: > > On Sunday 09 March 2008 09:07:03 am Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:44:50 -0800 > > > Jeremy Chadwick wrote: > > >=20 > > > > Your boot0cfg line to reinstall the boot0 MBR looks fine, but I don= 't > > > > use boot0 myself (I prefer to go right into boot2/loader). > > >=20 > > > I used 'fdisk -B da0' to install /boot/mbr to the disk for testing. > > > When I now boot the disk on the Acer laptop, it just displays one > > > register dump followed by "BTX halted". > >=20 > > You haven't updated boot2 (via bsdlabel -B) which sits in between boot0= /mbr=20 > > and /boot/loader. > >=20 >=20 > think you can apply the same magic to pxeldr? Pxeloader is the BTX client too, and real-mode btx is used by it automatically. --xn9xNsWbHJd/50IB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkfY+mQACgkQC3+MBN1Mb4gh+QCfSoNrNrSkZsd2tNUEptFfpEG0 /oYAnRmv42XWpuwwjxBhzRNkaXRZToiH =r4qo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xn9xNsWbHJd/50IB-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 12:36:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F02EA1065672 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Stephen.Clark@seclark.us) Received: from smtpout10.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD5CB8FC1D for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Stephen.Clark@seclark.us) Received: (qmail 28694 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2008 12:10:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (24.144.77.185) by smtpout10-04.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.238) with ESMTP; 13 Mar 2008 12:10:01 -0000 Message-ID: <47D91998.9030607@seclark.us> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:10:00 -0400 From: Stephen Clark User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080226) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein References: <20080312215624.GR67856@elvis.mu.org> In-Reply-To: <20080312215624.GR67856@elvis.mu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Approaching the limit on PV entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:36:43 -0000 Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Ivan Voras [080311 08:46] wrote: > >> During heavy postgresql load (pgbench), /var/log/messages registers >> (multiple times) the following message: >> >> "Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the >> vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl" >> >> I'm increasing both, but no matter what I increase them to, after a >> short time they again get increased by the system (???). >> >> The values are currently: >> >> vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 1134 >> vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 8000000 >> >> But the last sysctl setting, verified by retrieving it from my shell >> command line history, is that I set vm.pmap.shpgperproc to 800. >> >> Is this normal, and what are the common settings for these values? The >> machine is 2x4-core, currently 4 GB RAM (which will increase to at least >> 6 GB), amd64, running postgresql, php and apache. >> >> > > try setting: > > sysctl kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 > > > > Could you please explain what that does and why? Also could someone point me to where all these sysctls are documented other than in the source code - which lots of time has no explanation. It would really help the average sys admin/ user if these were documented. Thanks, Steve -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Ben Franklin) "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." (Thomas Jefferson) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 14:36:29 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E23D1065671 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@jellydonut.org) Received: from mail3.secureworks.net (mail3.secureworks.net [65.114.32.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46ED88FC4C for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:36:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mike@jellydonut.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail3.secureworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76FB619E3E8; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:36:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at secureworks.net Received: from mail3.secureworks.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail3.secureworks.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id scKx7q3eYyNp; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:36:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.23.35] (mole1.secureworks.net [63.239.86.3]) by mail3.secureworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C4419E3E1; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:36:28 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <47D93BEC.8000802@jellydonut.org> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:36:28 -0400 From: Michael Proto User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080227 Thunderbird/2.0.0.12 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us References: <20080312215624.GR67856@elvis.mu.org> <47D91998.9030607@seclark.us> In-Reply-To: <47D91998.9030607@seclark.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Approaching the limit on PV entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:36:29 -0000 Stephen Clark wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> * Ivan Voras [080311 08:46] wrote: >> >>> During heavy postgresql load (pgbench), /var/log/messages registers >>> (multiple times) the following message: >>> >>> "Approaching the limit on PV entries, consider increasing either the >>> vm.pmap.shpgperproc or the vm.pmap.pv_entry_max sysctl" >>> >>> I'm increasing both, but no matter what I increase them to, after a >>> short time they again get increased by the system (???). >>> >>> The values are currently: >>> >>> vm.pmap.shpgperproc: 1134 >>> vm.pmap.pv_entry_max: 8000000 >>> >>> But the last sysctl setting, verified by retrieving it from my shell >>> command line history, is that I set vm.pmap.shpgperproc to 800. >>> >>> Is this normal, and what are the common settings for these values? The >>> machine is 2x4-core, currently 4 GB RAM (which will increase to at least >>> 6 GB), amd64, running postgresql, php and apache. >>> >>> >> >> try setting: >> >> sysctl kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 >> >> >> >> > Could you please explain what that does and why? > > Also could someone point me to where all these sysctls are documented > other than in the source code - which lots > of time has no explanation. It would really help the average sys admin/ > user if these were documented. > > Thanks, > Steve > tuning(7) is a good place to start. -Proto From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 16:24:16 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C1A61065675 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@speco.com) Received: from bonechip.speco.com (bonechip.speco.com [68.79.213.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAEDB8FC18 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@speco.com) Received: (qmail 70293 invoked by uid 89); 13 Mar 2008 15:57:34 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.1.0 ppid: 70284, pid: 70287, t: 4.4584s scanners: attach: 1.1.0 clamav: 0.92.1 /m: spam: 3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on bonechip.speco.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.4 Received: from unknown (HELO ?68.79.213.169?) (david@speco.com@68.79.213.169) by bonechip.speco.com with ESMTPA; 13 Mar 2008 15:57:29 -0000 Message-ID: <47D94EE5.7050003@speco.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:57:25 -0500 From: David Schutt User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?windows-1252?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> <47D86A01.8070500@osoft.us> <67DB8948-8B91-4563-8D21-FAA88AB5AAD0@stromnet.se> <4356DD9F-7620-4551-A06D-EB6E690A844F@gothic.net.au> <4B137563-3F0C-4E93-82C2-D34FFCA2A448@stromnet.se> In-Reply-To: <4B137563-3F0C-4E93-82C2-D34FFCA2A448@stromnet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:24:16 -0000 Johan Ström wrote: > On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Sean Winn wrote: > >> For using HP blades and standard iLO (no licensed advance features), >> it works perfectly well, installing both FreeBSD 5 and 6 on the blades >> I've tried, using a remote install CD from the Java applet (there's >> one for remote devices like disks, and one for remote console); >> there's only text mode but that's plenty to install the OS and enable >> it to the point of using SSH to manage it from there on in. I'd hope >> the iLO hardware/software is relatively common to all the HP range :) >> >> text mode access continues at all times - the iLO interface is just a >> remote screen/keyboard onto it, even POST BIOS boot. The external >> devices are USB mass storage ones, but I didn't have problems booting >> off the CD and installing it for 6.2. > > > Well.. The blades seems to be an exception: > > • iLO 2 Standard Blade Edition (unlicensed blade server): > o Remote Console and IRC > > This is not listed under "iLO 2 Standard (unlicensed:)"... I guess that > means I'm out of luck unless I want to bang up another $400 (listing > price).. Which I'd rather not :) > > Anyone running those 360G5's using serial console on a normal licensed iLO? > Yes. We have one DL360 G5, and I was able to get serial console working using information I found in this thread -- http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-proliant/2007-October/000303.html Only downside is that the physical COM1 becomes unavailable, which caused some consternation when trying to monitor a UPS :-) FreeBSD 7 amd64 (still BETA4) acting as a Samba file server, works very well for us. -- David Schutt Speco, Inc "When all you have is a screwdriver handle, 3946 Willow St everything looks like a nail" Schiller Park, IL 60176 From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 16:40:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEB31065673 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC258FC27 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-stable@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZqTt-00084a-BF for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:37 +0000 Received: from adsl-69-234-220-238.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.220.238]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:37 +0000 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-220-238.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: walt Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:42:00 -0700 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <200803111048.m2BAmn4f077561@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-220-238.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 3.0a1pre (X11/2008031307) In-Reply-To: <200803111048.m2BAmn4f077561@lurza.secnetix.de> Sender: news Subject: Re: [7.0] /bin/sh segfaulting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:40:44 -0000 Oliver Fromme wrote: > walt wrote: > > I'm now running RELENG_7 on three x86 machines, but (only) one of > > them is behaving badly during bootup. > > > > Once the rc.d scripts start to run, I see /bin/sh crashing dozens of > > times before I finally see the login prompt. A few of the normal > > processes actually start okay, like ppp and named (this is my home > > firewall), but many normal daemons like syslogd and sendmail are > > not running. > > Last time I had symptoms like that, it turned out to > be bad RAM. I suspected the same, so I ran memtest86 overnight with no errors. I compiled sh with debugging symbols -- and it won't crash so I still can't get a backtrace. Very frustrating. But at least I have a working sh :o) From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 17:18:30 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A95C106566B for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from pi.codefab.com (pi.codefab.com [199.103.21.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB28FC2E for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E385CFF; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:02:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at codefab.com Received: from pi.codefab.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pi.codefab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tPi-zCRupTaZ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cswiger1.apple.com (unknown [17.214.13.96]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pi.codefab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F3FD5C3C; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5EA4E7F3-6F25-4B41-A123-082E250E3D19@mac.com> From: Chuck Swiger To: Stephen.Clark@seclark.us In-Reply-To: <47D91998.9030607@seclark.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:02:49 -0700 References: <20080312215624.GR67856@elvis.mu.org> <47D91998.9030607@seclark.us> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: Approaching the limit on PV entries X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:18:32 -0000 On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:10 AM, Stephen Clark wrote: >> sysctl kern.ipc.shm_use_phys=1 >> > > Could you please explain what that does and why? % sysctl -d kern.ipc.shm_use_phys kern.ipc.shm_use_phys: Enable/Disable locking of shared memory pages in core Basically, this sysctl can force SysV shared memory regions to be unpageable aka "locked down" or "wired down". > Also could someone point me to where all these sysctls are > documented other than in the source code - which lots of time has no > explanation. It would really help the average sys admin/ user if > these were documented. "sysctl -ad" will show a one-line description for most of them. Not all of these are intended for normal usage or tuning, however...some reflect purely debugging interfaces which only do make sense in the context of the associated source code. -- -Chuck From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 17:48:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5931065718 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:48:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eilko@bos-zuidema.nl) Received: from hobbes.brasapen.org (tafkam.xs4all.nl [82.95.217.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7368FC18 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:48:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eilko@bos-zuidema.nl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hobbes.brasapen.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0894C195BE; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:48:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bos-zuidema.nl Received: from hobbes.brasapen.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wilma.brasapen.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6yHTBRXrd4cm; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:47:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.home.brasapen.org (webmail.home.brasapen.org [172.20.1.10]) by hobbes.brasapen.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B8E195BC; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:47:48 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail.home.brasapen.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7CA3C1CC56; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:47:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:47:48 +0100 From: Eilko Bos To: walt Message-ID: <20080313174748.GA669@webmail.home.brasapen.org> References: <200803111048.m2BAmn4f077561@lurza.secnetix.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [7.0] /bin/sh segfaulting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:48:12 -0000 >From the keyboard of walt, written on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:42:00AM -0700: > Oliver Fromme wrote: >> walt wrote: >> > I'm now running RELENG_7 on three x86 machines, but (only) one of >> > them is behaving badly during bootup. >> > >> > Once the rc.d scripts start to run, I see /bin/sh crashing dozens of >> > times before I finally see the login prompt. A few of the normal >> > processes actually start okay, like ppp and named (this is my home >> > firewall), but many normal daemons like syslogd and sendmail are >> > not running. >> >> Last time I had symptoms like that, it turned out to >> be bad RAM. I've also seen this problem when upgrading from 6.3 -> 7.0, booting from half a mirror. I could not find the exact cause of it, reinstall of 7.0 fixed the problem. Grtz, -- Eilko. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 19:56:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01CC91065671 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:56:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BABF8FC16 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:56:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2DJu6vA023805; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:56:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2DJu6Er023804; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:56:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:56:06 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803131956.m2DJu6Er023804@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, w41ter@gmail.com In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:56:07 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: [7.0] /bin/sh segfaulting during boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, w41ter@gmail.com List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:56:09 -0000 walt wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > walt wrote: > > > I'm now running RELENG_7 on three x86 machines, but (only) one of > > > them is behaving badly during bootup. > > > > > > Once the rc.d scripts start to run, I see /bin/sh crashing dozens of > > > times before I finally see the login prompt. A few of the normal > > > processes actually start okay, like ppp and named (this is my home > > > firewall), but many normal daemons like syslogd and sendmail are > > > not running. > > > > Last time I had symptoms like that, it turned out to > > be bad RAM. > > I suspected the same, so I ran memtest86 overnight with no errors. That's not a guarantee for no RAM problems (though it's a strong indication). > I compiled sh with debugging symbols -- and it won't crash so I > still can't get a backtrace. Very frustrating. But at least I > have a working sh :o) Maybe a bit toggled on your disk inside the sh binary, and the disk failed to detect and/or report the error. GELI and ZFS are supposed to detect such silent disk corruption, so maybe you might want to use one of them. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "Python is an experiment in how much freedom programmers need. Too much freedom and nobody can read another's code; too little and expressiveness is endangered." -- Guido van Rossum From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 20:00:43 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47271065670; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1138FC1A; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:00:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2DK0eEf024010; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:00:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2DK0eGI024009; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:00:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:00:40 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200803132000.m2DK0eGI024009@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ivoras@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730803121228y11e57774s9fa35d4bfebef79e@mail.gmail.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.2-STABLE-20070808 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:00:40 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, ivoras@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:00:43 -0000 Ivan Voras wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: > > Ivan Voras wrote: > > > One more addition: I needed to use sys/extipl boot loader instead of the > > > standard one. > > > > That should be fixed with the latest BTX btw. > > I haven't followed the BTX thread closely, but from what I remember it > was about not crashing in BTX (with a register-dump) when calling BIOS > from vm86 mode (or the other way around). This is not the problem I > had with two of my Proliant machines - my problems were that the BTX > couldn't locate the next-stage loader - choosing "F1" at the prompt > would result in a "beep" signal and a loop back to the F1 prompt. That sounds like a problem with the boot0 manager, not with BTX itself. Why do you use it? I don't assume you have installed multiple operating systems on the server so you would need a boot manager. I suggest you remove the boot0 manager with "fdisk -B". I've never had any problems to boot the DL360 machines with FreeBSD's stock boot blocks. No need for sys/extipl or anything else. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd I suggested holding a "Python Object Oriented Programming Seminar", but the acronym was unpopular. -- Joseph Strout From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 13 22:14:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F441065674 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C098FC12 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF79B2EB939 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:57:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at egr.msu.edu Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qvDxe47Uoxke for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [35.9.44.65] (daemon.egr.msu.edu [35.9.44.65]) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889CC2EB902 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <47D9A355.8010102@egr.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:57:41 -0400 From: Adam McDougall User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080311) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: How to debug or explain slow gjournal writes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:14:24 -0000 I am evaluating using gjournal on my servers. This one test system is running 7.0-RELEASE at the moment on a Dell PE2650 with dual 2ghz xeon, ahc0: , and some seagate 36g 10k disks. I had the opportunity to try placing the journal consumer device on a dedicated disk. Whether or not I use a separate journal consumer device from the data consumer, I can expect the overall write speed to be slower because it is effectively writing everything twice. However when I watch it write just to the journal consumer device, the MB/sec it writes to the journal consumer device never seems to exceed around 50% of the speed that the disk is capable of. Its almost as if it is competing with IO being written to the provider, but that might be a coincidence. When I see it flush the journal consumer to the data consumer, it seems to read from a memory cache and write speed to the data consumer is full speed. Comparing with a more modern system with a mpt0: and two FUJITSU MAY2073RCSUN72G 0401 in a gmirror, I see journal write speed approx 40M/sec but data write speed of approx 45M/sec, which is a lot closer together, but still shows a difference. I'm fairly sure a single drive on its own could transfer faster than that, but I haven't tested it recently. I could if it would be helpful. Example with data,journal together just so I can put the terminology together with the device listing below: Writing to da2.journal shows input at approx 35M/sec and writes to the da2 journal at approx 35M/sec for a few seconds. Then the journal switches, input speed to da2.journal drops to 0, and apparently an in-memory journal gets copied to the data consumer on da2 at 65M/sec. Then it goes back to 35M/sec in and 35M/sec to the journal, repeating as expected. It seems to avoid writing to the data and journal at the same time, which is probably intentional to avoid head thrashing, especially if the journal fits in memory. Due to the slow journal write speed, and the expected double-writing of data, I only see a resulting write speed to da2.journal of approximately 16-22MB/sec. There is no improvement in the journal consumer write speed if I put it on a separate disk. The overall write speed is also the same. Additionally, when I have the journal on a gmirror (the data is too), the journal write speed is variable between 8 and 35MB/sec, it fluxuates pretty wildly second to second. As soon as I deactivate one side of the mirror, or get rid of the mirror under the journal, it is a consistent 35MB/sec. I'm looking for input on debugging, tuning, questions, bonehead errors, etc because I would like to get the most out of this setup if possible and not just settle for an inconsistent 16-22MB/sec. Thanks. Geom name: gjournal 170802896 ID: 170802896 Providers: 1. Name: da2.journal Mediasize: 35346332672 (33G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: da2 Mediasize: 36420075008 (34G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 36420074496 Jstart: 35346332672 Role: Data,Journal From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 01:48:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BFD106566C for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [35.9.37.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A244C8FC12 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:48:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu) Received: from localhost (localhost.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D62E32EB92E for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:48:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at egr.msu.edu Received: from mx.egr.msu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (surfnturf.egr.msu.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id THrZbRNW4P+N for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (daemon.egr.msu.edu [35.9.44.65]) by mx.egr.msu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 951852EB905 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 21281) id 805A9759; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:48:39 -0400 From: Adam McDougall To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080314014839.GI63968@egr.msu.edu> References: <47D9A355.8010102@egr.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47D9A355.8010102@egr.msu.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Subject: Re: How to debug or explain slow gjournal writes? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:48:41 -0000 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 05:57:41PM -0400, Adam McDougall wrote: I am evaluating using gjournal on my servers. This one test system is running 7.0-RELEASE at the moment on a Dell PE2650 with dual 2ghz xeon, ahc0: , and some seagate 36g 10k Additionally, when I have the journal on a gmirror (the data is too), the journal write speed is variable between 8 and 35MB/sec, it fluxuates pretty wildly second to second. As soon as I deactivate one side of the mirror, or get rid of the mirror under the journal, it is a consistent 35MB/sec. You know, the more I probe, the more it seems to unravel to an issue I have seen on at least 3 FreeBSD 7.x systems so far: SOMETIMES writes have inconsistent speed if they have been used in some sort of raid. Key words are "sometimes" and "have been". It seems like a disk is more likely to misbehave or just be consistently slow if it used to be in a raid like a gmirror. Sometimes I could deactivate a disk from a mirror and use it independantly (like for a journal) but it would stay slow. Other times, with a more fresh setup, it would perform fine. - On my brand new desktop, I setup a zfs mirror, my writes went into the toilet. I could hear the writes getting interrupted every few seconds while the disk heads seeked. I deactivated the mirror, and the writes would go to the first disk with full speed again. And when I formatted the second disk with whatever FS I wanted, it would give me full speed. But mirror them, and performance would drop back down by several factors. Somehow I avoided this by switching my desktop install to amd64 freebsd and re-setting up the mirror with zfs, but I think that was chance. - On a friend's home server, sometimes when I would setup a multidisk raid (using different zfs methods, or geom raids), I would run gstat and watch the performance bounce all around between the disks in the raid. It would continue to bounce between 8M/sec and something more reasonable for his ata disks like 40M/sec. If I still had the opportunity to experiment with that again, I would try to reproduce it and look at it more closely with gstat -I 100000 or so. I bet it was completely stalling out when I saw it be slow on a one-second average. I found a combination of sata controllers that gave fair and consistent (but not impressive) performance and called it good because it exceeded what his 1Gbit network could likely push or pull to it for a file server. - On this Dell 2650, I keep setting up different zfs mirrors, raidz, gmirror, gstripe, and sometimes the write speed is fine, sometimes it keeps bouncing around or stalling out for brief periods. Not always every drive at the same time. Its too loud in the server room to hear if this one is seeking while its slow. I can never see anything obvious in top -S, gstat, systat -vmstat that might cause a spike. I know the scsi bus on this one is capped at 160 so I don't expect to see 3-4 drives run at the same time and get full performance. But ALWAYS if you use dd to write directly to a drive, even multiple drives, or put a filesystem on a single drive, write speed was fine. I'm looking for input on debugging, tuning, questions, bonehead errors, etc because I would like to get the most out of this setup if possible and not just settle for an inconsistent 16-22MB/sec. Thanks. Geom name: gjournal 170802896 ID: 170802896 Providers: 1. Name: da2.journal Mediasize: 35346332672 (33G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Consumers: 1. Name: da2 Mediasize: 36420075008 (34G) Sectorsize: 512 Mode: r1w1e1 Jend: 36420074496 Jstart: 35346332672 Role: Data,Journal _______________________________________________ freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 01:51:25 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8A6106566C for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (mail.1command.com [75.160.109.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C36368FC16 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from mail.1command.com (localhost.1command.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id m2E1pGu2094442 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by mail.1command.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id m2E1pG3H094441 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris#@1command.com) Received: from hitme.hitometer.net (hitme.hitometer.net [75.160.109.235]) by webmail.1command.com (H.R. 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Communications Internet Messaging System (HCIMS) 4.1 Professional (not for redistribution) / FreeBSD-5.5 Subject: Re: list spam X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:51:25 -0000 Quoting Stephen Montgomery-Smith : > Mike Lempriere wrote: >> I've had it with the list spam -- is the any possibility of >> moderating this list, or changing it to must-be-subscriber-to-post? >> > > > I have the opposite experience. I am amazed at how little spam this > list gets. So far today, only one piece of spam - from the ports > list. I'd have to agree. I'm subscribed to several of the FBSD lists. Yet in any 30 day period, the most I've received is less than 4. 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Details and a ktrace in PR bin/121684. Is anyone else experiencing this? -- Greg From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 11:03:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97644106566C for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:03:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: from zid.claresco.hr (zid.claresco.hr [85.114.42.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9A88FC2C for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:03:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marko.lerota@claresco.hr) Received: (qmail 2598 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Mar 2008 12:03:01 +0100 To: Torfinn Ingolfsen Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEWgnbRLVpRNVY9jMRPh s21jSlEyNVX45Mv4zI+sbUclFAtMVpT8V0lFAAACZ0lEQVR4nG3Tv2vbQBQHcFMogWyeNeVK BLXGl5j6xnABOaNTuXFGmWpwtw519yj4soW6AatT4GKD3+aDZrl/rt/Tr9qlGiz7Pn7v3bsf HVc/NrIiSfElqH53GgijcCqzk/+AmBF5cN0DsFlIRGMh/oHuqxkTM6VlzB4EoZEs2aSZOASb EQJYZpweQshE697GTDndBXtgp9LIT9+OpDGHEfb9knk+nx+jfN1JCVZMCl6XwFm0a2EXztZD 3s4fj47ZbKI2VeBmJImeEfGLJ+M9sDPilX7IB5rN6sdfcGhuoHU+LC4nxfnI7YOJtdb95Gb+ fbgJ2uJ2ZgaA++f5ZzBqNCCYfMTd5q0BfBVNqm7I8gUjQ+YtXotRW6PH9AEj+dKs/KuNQAl5 o/NY+QkonW8aQAl0oXMYPvRiXIM4pRJifbXytnhTA8alBx/jefG2ar3DBlt34/PXz9M+nMVN iNaPUdCApJc2ItejOmLGoK1qQLV9pJmXBnL10DYoBA5aHNfj8ZNwZa5O4CzgTJeilKJmrQJs IHIt1/7/Sg2p3iq/Hz0/5W05rq4M9aN2B5FLohUP4ylVyfxhEIjAs8J4PhIJ9U+CEroogib5 BXAf7bB4vkfAzgPFt1tM9sJZAOH+lCexhwswuNtim4QTZdokqo4o89LkH7V6iFxICeqfp+Wh fmUuGPunLj2Meti6Cn4DjJ/UReROqR+aqawAi/JkfgKE64rrfkhjU8MtT8ivR4S5n6Yo08A7 HvgAlHDWRSGlNSDxwK9HtXy4FS2I60EdUIJM+Ut9OZNJG4CpbEQW1VBQoQoPuBw2EVa4P0u0 TgzQF+VoAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <20080312175755.80371176.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> (Torfinn Ingolfsen's message of "Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:57:55 +0100") References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <47D7D159.3060100@ensmp.fr> <20080312175755.80371176.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> Organization: *BSD Users - Fanatics Dept. From: Marko Lerota Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:03:01 +0100 Message-ID: <86prtxwot6.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:03:13 -0000 Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > But unless the OP wants the specific boot loader from and MS-DOS disk, > he can get the same effect _without_ usinf non-FreeBSD tools by using > fdisk -B I used the FreeBSD livefs fixit mode and executed this fdisk -B /dev/ad4 it complained that "no geom found" but it worked -- One cannot sell the earth upon which the people walk Tacunka Witco From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 12:06:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162CD106566B for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: from mx01.sc1.parodius.com (mx01.sc1.parodius.com [72.20.106.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124F28FC17 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jdc@parodius.com) Received: by mx01.sc1.parodius.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E96E71CC070; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:06:04 -0700 From: Jeremy Chadwick To: Marko Lerota Message-ID: <20080314120604.GA9877@eos.sc1.parodius.com> References: <86abl43yrx.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> <47D7D159.3060100@ensmp.fr> <20080312175755.80371176.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> <86prtxwot6.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <86prtxwot6.fsf@zid.claresco.hr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: Torfinn Ingolfsen , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken MBR X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:05 -0000 On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:03:01PM +0100, Marko Lerota wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > > > But unless the OP wants the specific boot loader from and MS-DOS disk, > > he can get the same effect _without_ usinf non-FreeBSD tools by using > > fdisk -B > > I used the FreeBSD livefs fixit mode and executed this > > fdisk -B /dev/ad4 > it complained that "no geom found" but it worked I think this might go away if you do sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 prior to the fdisk. -- | Jeremy Chadwick jdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 15:08:12 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899A41065670 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:08:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36EC98FC24 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:08:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 95245 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Mar 2008 14:41:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=HjcA448pzPa8yh+jraGDu9sRIBU4/7Csum4OqrDMnwQ1TO+zqSs76o45pRs67XGIeXSOhhHnBAVo/dXcLSwOqaMcY7meJX5shZmcmvvJy7jixLgLXknIfPtjuRyrsitM6QQd3/+jW6g3JMo8DrQhL7IiHq87b9OL6RRHiWEa8pc=; X-YMail-OSG: VyLMPR8VM1lb6DLaeyGFqpQFKss9vuqPPLEpdMHJqAgrlKEOG_nMyHctrMHta_IJAUHkev_Qkbq43mByJGudr8FVcnr2QcglnxNc3vk.GaQHX8OpDVwq.dqTNKNMeMYQ7eiQSqVn4Cq9o.JIdsurOTnTQZ9j_IdQd.8c45o- Received: from [165.21.154.92] by web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:41:30 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:08:12 -0000 Hi all Is the following book still relevant to FreeBSD 7.X and upcoming FreeBSD 8.X? Is there a 2nd edition coming soon? The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System By Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil Published Aug 2, 2004 by Addison Wesley Professional. 1st. Edition ISBN-10: 0-201-70245-2 http://www.informit.com/title/0201702452 Many thanks in advance. Kind regards Unga ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 15:58:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316F3106566B for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:58:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from hu-out-0506.google.com (hu-out-0506.google.com [72.14.214.230]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CE78FC17 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by hu-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 28so2867264hub.8 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:58:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=/cYYkllhyKME7eas2X4XaTseNIJYKKjhhAg2edPTNQA=; b=W7+P9SNkhwXrKg8ev1XLS+3ntuqSbrmBGZ8oIe1WWpYrNoVrmOc2LBfnmIzDjw0MqApSRyPE9HQkaCP7MO2vE5x1Ia+ZyEahwU+N4ZTWN0ygWmLC1Uj0AW+3x8ephE4qCHny2uXnk/usZ4IcspRpYwdw3/LOz7wJ/ygVnKzQ/t0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=qi/uWXyFl9sUiNezY7zJdP3iEx3CqLDaJZ1kfAMv5g+EfLvct9Ru7PU7DO7/4oGWJvmkMJ8hebeOco5Egxy/Ezlfmwtqdy5YVy6bj5+L0dILa4XhurSQ+bXq5nHx69iSihECDnek5Du0LkWs4YdFsVXCM4mbxlSxR6pOrxpD+HI= Received: by 10.78.134.6 with SMTP id h6mr31140652hud.69.1205510286915; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [217.206.187.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i6sm6580055gve.5.2008.03.14.08.58.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:58:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: Unga In-Reply-To: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/KHTNAKhBn9qzjzn2Oa+" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:57:50 +0000 Message-Id: <1205510270.75559.29.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:58:18 -0000 --=-/KHTNAKhBn9qzjzn2Oa+ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2008-03-14 at 07:41 -0700, Unga wrote: > Hi all >=20 > Is the following book still relevant to FreeBSD 7.X > and upcoming FreeBSD 8.X? Is there a 2nd edition > coming soon? >=20 > The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating > System > By Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil > Published Aug 2, 2004 by Addison Wesley Professional.=20 > 1st. Edition > ISBN-10: 0-201-70245-2 > http://www.informit.com/title/0201702452 >=20 > Many thanks in advance. >=20 > Kind regards > Unga >=20 >=20 It isn't completely up-to date, as it covers FreeBSD 5, but 5 marked the introduction of the smp-ng code, so it is not hugely incorrect. I recently acquired it and am finding it very useful and informative. Cheers Tom --=-/KHTNAKhBn9qzjzn2Oa+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBH2qB6lcRvFfyds/cRAt53AJ0aQyVvbJVWRgue3Jt4omOKk0ndbACfQHHD ZSOZUxuDHbXCKUcYJjGl1pg= =rvg2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/KHTNAKhBn9qzjzn2Oa+-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 16:35:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D6D1065671 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46CA8FC31 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:35:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from vpn-04.vindaloo.com (vpn-04.vindaloo.com [172.24.144.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0645D88; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme In-Reply-To: <200803121605.m2CG5Z6q052120@lurza.secnetix.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:14:52 -0400 References: <200803121605.m2CG5Z6q052120@lurza.secnetix.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: Subject: SchedULE vs BSD scheduler - Was: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:35:05 -0000 On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Those machines work very well with both FreeBSD 6 and 7. > If you install FreeBSD 7, remember to enable ULE instead > of the default BSD scheduler. > What's the advantage of ULE / disadvantage of the default? Is it specific to this hardware? From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 16:40:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37011106567F for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:40:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mspitzer@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.244]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36578FC33 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mspitzer@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c14so1227122anc.13 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mZilN99NIcsSpH+ZpagHoWBBPACjjBqf/97Xupr+itc=; b=kHdC+PoI9MXBm0sjAo8nX/xR9RI1yqdL/vWs+Lvq7hGbNJFm6FMXkdq4lSu2vL5QBB8X6Eg6pdaDHEJ1qZiIoxXvJrNaepuuQRKY/K66JZ5RiA6uGx53oIHfLMalLa2BSd7zYq6SFSK56ExJsY2EE1YBDSLjIDdDChjAEvfjtOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=B5LXFmDqbmT/ERT7vvYWCkBvCyawd2KkakCGTt5f7pjQ6z4tNM0Hwc9lrIo68/tdA7igvOnZvHvIyRa7T7y3SVuy0GupXV2E12MyWn5dZ1YOQzvm3k2TZ4zGASNWBC7IVBkjKylOHRQhUwiwgF7N663MZ+gK1uUaV+ug/m/1/o4= Received: by 10.101.1.7 with SMTP id d7mr23283443ani.40.1205511343529; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ( [74.72.168.252]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm22953547agb.12.2008.03.14.09.15.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:14:39 -0400 From: Marc spitzer To: Unga Message-Id: <20080314121439.1a2ff0f5.mspitzer@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.8 (GTK+ 2.12.8; i386-portbld-freebsd6.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:40:59 -0000 On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Unga wrote: > Hi all > > Is the following book still relevant to FreeBSD 7.X > and upcoming FreeBSD 8.X? Is there a 2nd edition > coming soon? > > The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating > System > By Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil > Published Aug 2, 2004 by Addison Wesley Professional. > 1st. Edition > ISBN-10: 0-201-70245-2 > http://www.informit.com/title/0201702452 According to George V. Neville-Neil yes it is, I asked him that exact question at a unigroup meeting yesterday. marc XS-- Marc spitzer From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 16:43:53 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B8B1065675 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (unknown [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7A68FC38 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:43:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m2EGhmiN074506; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:43:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m2EGhmmF074504; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:43:48 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <200803141643.m2EGhmmF074504@lurza.secnetix.de> To: chris@vindaloo.com (Christopher Sean Hilton) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:43:48 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:43:51 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SchedULE vs BSD scheduler X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:43:53 -0000 Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Those machines work very well with both FreeBSD 6 and 7. > > If you install FreeBSD 7, remember to enable ULE instead > > of the default BSD scheduler. > > What's the advantage of ULE / disadvantage of the default? > Is it specific to this hardware? I generally recommend to use ULE on FreeBSD 7 because it behaves better for interactive use, especially on SMP systems (but it seems to improve interactivity on UP systems, too). It's not specific to this hardware. Note that SCHED_ULE is now the default in 7-stable, and will be the default in 7.1-RELEASE. The change was done shortly after 7.0-RELEASE. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd With Perl you can manipulate text, interact with programs, talk over networks, drive Web pages, perform arbitrary precision arithmetic, and write programs that look like Snoopy swearing. From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 16:47:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C4481065671 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:47:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grafan@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBC18FC28 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:47:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grafan@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b27so4814830fka.11 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:47:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=izENGxlpAodmpwkafGO1wBlxtszIGfGO4hT4NY8qRDo=; b=QEEiwHwuPyVH0TCXOOnIkIwTxJGYvLSPUGoWThZ7D0ww+YS5YfWA7PYoz4eGSruYlHrGpcaBzzc5Dac1nhN6jmmo2UVEX2sdYMfwDbRCJhlij21+WYuGUVpJ+3+ksx89igaPPwkskcWmPljbiM4PcLpN/fierB2K+V2HllyXOFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=lPNO7HF7Kkuj8ut/2mDhPjnDDAvzv8R6p11GFyYixZEfasXnLo0rdbcyERmzLrPCMC3QdIYlS9MXveeH2wbecsr3DCCoTnUK0H8f4htp/fE/majPHU6xreWbrzN9sbcFA20lgiEquPzCIUE38JtT9+C7H5aTnluwoxE1jnElubU= Received: by 10.82.116.15 with SMTP id o15mr6241229buc.11.1205513220711; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.115.11 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6eb82e0803140947q1d6b0fa3kc8eac475263a5c74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:47:00 +0800 From: "Rong-en Fan" To: "Christopher Sean Hilton" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803121605.m2CG5Z6q052120@lurza.secnetix.de> Cc: Oliver Fromme , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SchedULE vs BSD scheduler - Was: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:47:02 -0000 On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > Those machines work very well with both FreeBSD 6 and 7. > > If you install FreeBSD 7, remember to enable ULE instead > > of the default BSD scheduler. > > > > What's the advantage of ULE / disadvantage of the default? Is it > specific to this hardware? It gives you better performance. You may want to check Kris's slides http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20and%20beyond.pdf Regards, Rong-En Fan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 18:26:26 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562C5106566B for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:26:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: from xena.bway.net (xena.bway.net [216.220.96.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73498FC2A for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:26:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mrkvrg@acm.org) Received: (qmail 86504 invoked by uid 0); 14 Mar 2008 17:59:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gecko3.bs.net) (216.220.115.179) by smtp.bway.net with SMTP; 14 Mar 2008 17:59:44 -0000 From: mv To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:59:39 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20080314121439.1a2ff0f5.mspitzer@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20080314121439.1a2ff0f5.mspitzer@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803141359.41616.mrkvrg@acm.org> Subject: Re: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:26:26 -0000 Hello Marc, Does "yes it is" mean the book is - still relevant; or - a second edition is coming soon. As a newbie I'm also interested in this book. Assuming the second edition covers FreeBSD 7 or 8, I would rather wait for it rather than purchase the first edition. Thanks, Mark On Fri, 14 March 2008 12:14:39 Marc spitzer wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) > > Unga wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Is the following book still relevant to FreeBSD 7.X > > and upcoming FreeBSD 8.X? Is there a 2nd edition > > coming soon? > > > > The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating > > System > > By Marshall Kirk McKusick, George V. Neville-Neil > > Published Aug 2, 2004 by Addison Wesley Professional. > > 1st. Edition > > ISBN-10: 0-201-70245-2 > > http://www.informit.com/title/0201702452 > > According to George V. Neville-Neil yes it is, I asked him that exact > question at a unigroup meeting yesterday. > > marc > XS-- > Marc spitzer > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 19:50:38 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3071065670 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from razor@dataxnet.ro) Received: from mail.dataxnet.ro (datax28.mediasat.ro [80.96.28.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 788388FC19 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from razor@dataxnet.ro) Received: (qmail 6365 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Mar 2008 21:23:59 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:23:59 +0200 From: Alex Popa To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080314192359.GA4677@dataxnet.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zhXaljGHf11kAtnf" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Lock Order Reversal on 7.0-STABLE with pf and ipfw / dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:50:38 -0000 --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline World was cvsupped on March 6th, around 18:00 GMT. Built and installed kernel + world, with options WITNESS and WITNESS_SKIPSPIN. Short background: 7.0-RELEASE had excellent performance on the machine, but it would randomly lock up after some hours (usually over 10 hours). The lockups were hard, meaning nothing seemed to work (NumLock didn't toggle the keyboard LED, no replies to ping, no disk activity). We changed the motherboard and RAM and had the same behaviour. 6.2-REL is rock solid on this machine (had over 50 days uptime), but upgrading to 6.3-REL made it lock up just like 7.0 (so we put 6.2 back and accepted the lower performance for the time being). The LOR messages from dmesg of 7.0-STABLE are as follows: lock order reversal: 1st 0xffffffffb19e0680 pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @ /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf.c:6729 2nd 0xffffff00042ea0f0 radix node head (radix node head) @ /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:147 lock order reversal: 1st 0xffffffff80938508 PFil hook read/write mutex (PFil hook read/write mutex) @ /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:73 2nd 0xffffffff80938c48 tcp (tcp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:400 More details about the machine in the attached dmesg. It's a SMP with 4GB of RAM, 3 gigabit cards (em0, em1 and, depending on the motherboard we used, either bge0 or msk0). Only em0 is linked to a gigabit port, the others are 100Mbits/s My setup has in-kernel IPFIREWALL, IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE, IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, DUMMYNET. I have commented out INET6, SCTP and the wireless interfaces. WITNESS and WITNESS_SKIPSPIN were only added in the hope of figuring out what locks it up, and they did signal these 2 LORs. pf and pflog are loaded as modules (pf_enable and pflog_enable set to yes in rc.conf). - The ipfw/dummynet side: I use net.link.ether.ipfw = 1 for MAC address checking, ipfw + dummynet for traffic shaping (4 queues at 95Mbits/s for the 2 external interfaces in/out, and 4 more queues for traffic that goes outside the AS group for which we have fast access). Deciding which queue traffic goes in depends on its source address and whether its destination is in ipfw tables 1, 2 or none. These tables are synchronized from pf tables via a custom script in crontab, which runs every 3 minutes. The pf tables used as source for these are controlled by OpenBGPD. - The pf side: Filtering is done here, as is policy routing. Filtering also contains redirecting to a transparent squid proxy of traffic destined to port 80 but not bound for networks received via BGP and saved to tables and . Metro and special port 80 traffic goes directly to the destination server. Traffic from net1 and net2 is routed via the "other" external interface, which doesn't contain the default route... with the exception of traffic to pf table (from BGP, same as table 2 in ipfw). Traffic to is routed via fastroute in pf (meaning using the default route). Attached are full dmesg and the kernel config. I still have access to the hard drive with 7.0-STABLE on it, but not the motherboard/CPU and the network cards... they are running off the hard drive with 6.2 on it. -- "Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes" -- E. W. Dijkstra --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="KERNEL.txt" # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC,v 1.484.2.2.2.1 2008/02/06 03:24:28 scottl Exp $ cpu HAMMER ident GENERIC # To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints "GENERIC.hints" # Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g # Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options WITNESS options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN options SCHED_4BSD # 4BSD scheduler options PREEMPTION # Enable kernel thread preemption options INET # InterNETworking #options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols #options SCTP # Stream Control Transmission Protocol options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories options UFS_GJOURNAL # Enable gjournal-based UFS journaling options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT # Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER # Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT # NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options NTFS # NT File System options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 # ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS # Pseudo-filesystem framework options GEOM_PART_GPT # GUID Partition Tables. options GEOM_LABEL # Provides labelization options COMPAT_43TTY # BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_IA32 # Compatible with i386 binaries options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4 options COMPAT_FREEBSD5 # Compatible with FreeBSD5 options COMPAT_FREEBSD6 # Compatible with FreeBSD6 options SCSI_DELAY=5000 # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE # ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options ADAPTIVE_GIANT # Giant mutex is adaptive. options STOP_NMI # Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI options AUDIT # Security event auditing options DUMMYNET options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT # Make an SMP-capable kernel by default options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel # CPU frequency control device cpufreq # Bus support. device acpi device pci # Floppy drives device fdc # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device ataraid # ATA RAID drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID # Static device numbering # SCSI Controllers device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT # Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T)) device hptiop # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series device isp # Qlogic family #device ispfw # Firmware for QLogic HBAs- normally a module device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr') device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60. device bt # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required for SCSI) device ch # SCSI media changers device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) device ses # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem device amr # AMI MegaRAID device arcmsr # Areca SATA II RAID device ciss # Compaq Smart RAID 5* device dpt # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for options device hptmv # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x device hptrr # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23xx, 25xx device iir # Intel Integrated RAID device ips # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID device twa # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID # RAID controllers device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID device aacp # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM) device ida # Compaq Smart RAID device mfi # LSI MegaRAID SAS device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #XXX pointer/int warnings #device pst # Promise Supertrak SX6000 device twe # 3ware ATA RAID # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse device kbdmux # keyboard multiplexer device vga # VGA video card driver device splash # Splash screen and screen saver support # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc device agp # support several AGP chipsets # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # PCMCIA and cardbus bridge support device cbb # cardbus (yenta) bridge device pccard # PC Card (16-bit) bus device cardbus # CardBus (32-bit) bus # Serial (COM) ports device sio # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports device uart # Generic UART driver # Parallel port device ppc device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # If you've got a "dumb" serial or parallel PCI card that is # supported by the puc(4) glue driver, uncomment the following # line to enable it (connects to sio, uart and/or ppc drivers): #device puc # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device em # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet Card device ixgb # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card device le # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet device txp # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'') device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device bce # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet device bfe # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet device bge # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device lge # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet device msk # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit Ethernet device nfe # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet device nge # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet #device nve # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet Networking device pcn # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over 'le') device re # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 device sk # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit Ethernet device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) device ti # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit Ethernet device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vge # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. pccard NICs included. device cs # Crystal Semiconductor CS89x0 NIC # 'device ed' requires 'device miibus' device ed # NE[12]000, SMC Ultra, 3c503, DS8390 cards device ex # Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ device ep # Etherlink III based cards device fe # Fujitsu MB8696x based cards device sn # SMC's 9000 series of Ethernet chips device xe # Xircom pccard Ethernet ## Wireless NIC cards #device wlan # 802.11 support #device wlan_wep # 802.11 WEP support #device wlan_ccmp # 802.11 CCMP support #device wlan_tkip # 802.11 TKIP support #device wlan_amrr # AMRR transmit rate control algorithm #device wlan_scan_ap # 802.11 AP mode scanning #device wlan_scan_sta # 802.11 STA mode scanning #device an # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. #device ath # Atheros pci/cardbus NIC's #device ath_hal # Atheros HAL (Hardware Access Layer) #device ath_rate_sample # SampleRate tx rate control for ath #device awi # BayStack 660 and others #device ral # Ralink Technology RT2500 wireless NICs. #device wi # WaveLAN/Intersil/Symbol 802.11 wireless NICs. # Pseudo devices. device loop # Network loopback device random # Entropy device device ether # Ethernet support device sl # Kernel SLIP device ppp # Kernel PPP device tun # Packet tunnel. device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) device md # Memory "disks" device gif # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling device faith # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) device firmware # firmware assist module # The `bpf' device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! # Note that 'bpf' is required for DHCP. device bpf # Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device ehci # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0) device usb # USB Bus (required) #device udbp # USB Double Bulk Pipe devices device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse #device ural # Ralink Technology RT2500USB wireless NICs device urio # Diamond Rio 500 MP3 player device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires miibus device aue # ADMtek USB Ethernet device axe # ASIX Electronics USB Ethernet device cdce # Generic USB over Ethernet device cue # CATC USB Ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB Ethernet device rue # RealTek RTL8150 USB Ethernet # FireWire support device firewire # FireWire bus code device sbp # SCSI over FireWire (Requires scbus and da) device fwe # Ethernet over FireWire (non-standard!) device fwip # IP over FireWire (RFC 2734,3146) device dcons # Dumb console driver device dcons_crom # Configuration ROM for dcons --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg.txt" Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE #0: Fri Mar 7 01:31:39 EET 2008 root@censored.censored.ro:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2810.56-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf44 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x641d AMD Features=0x20100800 Cores per package: 2 usable memory = 4282994688 (4084 MB) avail memory = 4129546240 (3938 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Mar 7 2008 01:31:23) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, dff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900 cpu0: on acpi0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 p4tcc1: on cpu1 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 uhci0: port 0xa800-0xa81f irq 16 at device 26.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xa880-0xa89f irq 21 at device 26.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xac00-0xac1f irq 18 at device 26.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xfbbffc00-0xfbbfffff irq 18 at device 26.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb3: EHCI version 1.0 usb3: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3: on ehci0 usb3: USB revision 2.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib1: irq 17 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci5: on pcib1 pcib2: irq 18 at device 28.2 on pci0 pci4: on pcib2 em0: port 0xec00-0xec1f mem 0xfbfe0000-0xfbffffff,0xfbfc0000-0xfbfdffff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0e:73:3d em0: [FILTER] pcib3: irq 19 at device 28.3 on pci0 pci3: on pcib3 em1: port 0xdc00-0xdc1f mem 0xfbee0000-0xfbefffff,0xfbec0000-0xfbedffff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci3 em1: Using MSI interrupt em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0e:74:14 em1: [FILTER] pcib4: irq 17 at device 28.4 on pci0 pci2: on pcib4 atapci0: port 0xcc00-0xcc07,0xc880-0xc883,0xc800-0xc807,0xc480-0xc483,0xc400-0xc40f mem 0xfbdffc00-0xfbdffdff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 atapci0: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci0 ata2: [ITHREAD] pcib5: irq 16 at device 28.5 on pci0 pci1: on pcib5 mskc0: port 0xb800-0xb8ff mem 0xfbcfc000-0xfbcfffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci1 msk0: on mskc0 msk0: Ethernet address: 00:1e:8c:5d:48:4b miibus0: on msk0 e1000phy0: PHY 0 on miibus0 e1000phy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX-FDX, auto mskc0: [FILTER] uhci3: port 0xa080-0xa09f irq 23 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb4: on uhci3 usb4: USB revision 1.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci4: port 0xa400-0xa41f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci4: [ITHREAD] usb5: on uhci4 usb5: USB revision 1.0 uhub5: on usb5 uhub5: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci5: port 0xa480-0xa49f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci5: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci5: [ITHREAD] usb6: on uhci5 usb6: USB revision 1.0 uhub6: on usb6 uhub6: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci1: mem 0xfbbff800-0xfbbffbff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci1: [ITHREAD] usb7: EHCI version 1.0 usb7: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb4 usb5 usb6 usb7: on ehci1 usb7: USB revision 2.0 uhub7: on usb7 uhub7: 6 ports with 6 removable, self powered pcib6: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci6: on pcib6 vgapci0: mem 0xfd000000-0xfdffffff at device 1.0 on pci6 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci1: port 0x9000-0x9007,0x8c00-0x8c03,0x8880-0x8887,0x8800-0x8803,0x8480-0x848f,0x8400-0x840f irq 22 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] ata4: on atapci1 ata4: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) atapci2: port 0xa000-0xa007,0x9c00-0x9c03,0x9880-0x9887,0x9800-0x9803,0x9480-0x948f,0x9400-0x940f irq 22 at device 31.5 on pci0 atapci2: [ITHREAD] ata5: on atapci2 ata5: [ITHREAD] ata6: on atapci2 ata6: [ITHREAD] acpi_button0: on acpi0 fdc0: port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0 fdc0: [FILTER] sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0: port may not be enabled sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xca7ff on isa0 ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ipfw2 initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to accept, logging unlimited hptrr: no controller detected. ad4: 76319MB at ata2-master UDMA100 ad6: 70910MB at ata3-master SATA150 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1a is ufs/root64. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1d is ufs/var64. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1e is ufs/tmp64. GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider ad6s1f is ufs/usr64. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ufs/root64 msk0: link state changed to UP em0: link state changed to UP lock order reversal: 1st 0xffffffffb19e0680 pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @ /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf.c:6729 2nd 0xffffff00042ea0f0 radix node head (radix node head) @ /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:147 lock order reversal: 1st 0xffffffff80938508 PFil hook read/write mutex (PFil hook read/write mutex) @ /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:73 2nd 0xffffffff80938c48 tcp (tcp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:400 msk0: Rx FIFO overrun! msk0: Rx FIFO overrun! --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kldstat.txt" Id Refs Address Size Name 1 3 0xffffffff80100000 984658 kernel Contains modules: Id Name 1 cam 2 probe 3 xpt 4 cd 5 ch 6 da 7 pass 8 sa 9 ses 10 aac/aacp 11 aac/aacd 12 pci/aacch 13 pci/aac 14 nexus/acpi 15 acpi/acpi_acad 16 acpi/acpi_button 17 acpi/acpi_cmbat 18 acpi/cpu 19 acpi/acpi_ec 20 acpi/acpi_hpet 21 acpi/acpi_isab 22 acpi/acpi_lid 23 pcib/acpi_pci 24 acpi/acpi_pci_link 25 acpi/acpi_pcib 26 pci/acpi_pcib 27 cpu/acpi_perf 28 acpi/acpi_sysresource 29 acpi/acpi_smbat 30 acpi/acpi_tz 31 cpu/acpi_throttle 32 acpi/acpi_timer 33 pci/adv 34 pci/adw 35 pccard/aic 36 isa/ahc_isa 37 cardbus/ahc_pci 38 pci/ahc_pci 39 cardbus/ahd 40 pci/ahd 41 ahd 42 ahc 43 pci/amd 44 amr/amrd 45 pci/amr 46 ata 47 pccard/ata 48 ata/ad 49 isa/ata 50 atapci/ata 51 pci/atapci 52 ataraid 53 ad/subdisk 54 ata/acd 55 ata/afd 56 ata/ast 57 bce/miibus 58 pci/bce 59 bfe/miibus 60 pci/bfe 61 bge/miibus 62 pci/bge 63 isa/bt 64 pci/bt 65 cbb/cardbus 66 pci/ciss 67 pci/ichss_pci 68 cpu/ichss 69 isa/cs 70 pccard/cs 71 dc/miibus 72 pci/dc 73 cardbus/dc 74 miibus/dcphy 75 miibus/pnphy 76 firewire/dcons_crom 77 dcons 78 pci/de 79 pci/dpt 80 ed/miibus 81 pccard/ed 82 pci/ed 83 pci/em 84 isa/ep 85 pccard/ep 86 isa/ex 87 pccard/ex 88 exca 89 pccard/fe 90 fwohci/firewire 91 cardbus/fwohci 92 pci/fwohci 93 firewire/fwe 94 firewire/fwip 95 firewire/sbp 96 fxp/miibus 97 cardbus/fxp 98 pci/fxp 99 ida/idad 100 pci/ida 101 pci/iir 102 ips/ipsd 103 pci/ips 104 pci/isp 105 pci/if_ixgb 106 kbdmux 107 pci/le 108 lge/miibus 109 pci/lge 110 g_md 111 mem 112 pci/mfi 113 mfi/mfid 114 miibus/acphy 115 miibus/amphy 116 miibus/bmtphy 117 miibus/brgphy 118 miibus/ciphy 119 miibus/e1000phy 120 miibus/xlphy 121 miibus/gentbi 122 miibus/icsphy 123 miibus/inphy 124 miibus/ip1000phy 125 miibus/lxtphy 126 miibus/mlphy 127 miibus/nsgphy 128 miibus/nsphy 129 miibus/nsphyter 130 miibus/pnaphy 131 miibus/qsphy 132 miibus/rgephy 133 miibus/rlphy 134 miibus/ruephy 135 miibus/tdkphy 136 miibus/tlphy 137 miibus/ukphy 138 miibus/xmphy 139 mlx/mlxd 140 pci/mlx 141 pci/mly 142 mpt_core 143 mpt_cam 144 pci/mpt 145 mpt_raid 146 msk/miibus 147 mskc/msk 148 pci/mskc 149 nge/miibus 150 pci/nge 151 null 152 cbb/pccard 153 pcic/pccard 154 isa/cbb 155 pci/cbb 156 pci/fixup_pci 157 pci/hostb 158 pci/ignore_pci 159 pci/isab 160 pcib/pci 161 pci/pcib 162 pci/vgapci 163 ppbus/plip 164 ppbus/lpt 165 ppc/ppbus 166 ppbus/ppi 167 acpi/ppc 168 isa/ppc 169 pci/ppc 170 random 171 re/miibus 172 cardbus/re 173 pci/re 174 sk/miibus 175 skc/sk 176 pci/skc 177 isa/sn 178 pccard/sn 179 pci/sym 180 pci/ti 181 pci/trm 182 pci/twa 183 twe/twed 184 pci/twe 185 tx/miibus 186 pci/tx 187 pci/txp 188 acpi/uart 189 isa/uart 190 pccard/uart 191 cardbus/uart 192 pci/uart 193 cardbus/ehci 194 pci/ehci 195 aue/miibus 196 uhub/aue 197 axe/miibus 198 uhub/axe 199 uhub/cdce 200 uhub/cue 201 uhub/kue 202 rue/miibus 203 uhub/rue 204 cardbus/ohci 205 pci/ohci 206 uhub/ugen 207 cardbus/uhci 208 pci/uhci 209 uhub/uhid 210 uhub/uhub 211 usb/uhub 212 uhub/ukbd 213 uhub/ulpt 214 uhub/umass 215 uhub/ums 216 uhub/urio 217 slhci/usb 218 ehci/usb 219 uhci/usb 220 ohci/usb 221 uhub/uscanner 222 vge/miibus 223 cardbus/vge 224 pci/vge 225 pci/vx 226 watchdog 227 pccard/xe 228 devfs 229 msdosfs 230 ntfs 231 procfs 232 pseudofs 233 g_bsd 234 g_dev 235 g_disk 236 g_mbrext 237 g_mbr 238 g_vfs 239 g_label 240 g_part 241 eisab/isa 242 isab/isa 243 isa/isahint 244 isa/orm 245 cd9660 246 elf64 247 shell 248 cpu/cpufreq 249 rootbus 250 firmware 251 sysvmsg 252 msgrcv 253 msgsnd 254 msgget 255 msgctl 256 msgsys 257 sysvsem 258 semop 259 semget 260 __semctl 261 semsys 262 sysvshm 263 shmget 264 shmdt 265 shmctl 266 shmat 267 shmsys 268 ether 269 if_faith 270 if_firewire 271 if_gif 272 loop 273 if_ppp 274 if_sl 275 if_tun 276 dummynet 277 ipfw 278 nfs4 279 nfs 280 nfslock 281 nfsserver 282 pcn/miibus 283 pci/pcn 284 rl/miibus 285 cardbus/rl 286 pci/rl 287 sf/miibus 288 pci/sf 289 sis/miibus 290 pci/sis 291 ste/miibus 292 pci/ste 293 tl/miibus 294 pci/tl 295 vr/miibus 296 pci/vr 297 wb/miibus 298 pci/wb 299 xl/miibus 300 pci/xl 301 cardbus/xl 302 ufs 303 g_class 304 acpi/fpupnp 305 nexus/apic 306 pci/ioapic 307 legacy/cpu 308 nexus/legacy 309 isa/sysresource 310 nexus/ram 311 root/nexus 312 acpi/attimer 313 isa/attimer 314 legacy/isa 315 acpi/atdma 316 isa/atdma 317 isa/pcibus_pnp 318 legacy/pcib 319 pci/arcmsr 320 atkbdc/atkbd 321 acpi/atkbdc 322 isa/atkbdc 323 acpi/psmcpnp 324 isa/psmcpnp 325 atkbdc/psm 326 isa/ed 327 io 328 fdc/fd 329 acpi/fdc 330 isa/fdc 331 pccard/fdc 332 pci/hptmv 333 pci/hptrr 334 nfe/miibus 335 pci/nfe 336 acpi/sio 337 isa/sio 338 pccard/sio 339 cardbus/sio 340 pci/sio 341 scterm-sc 342 scrndr-vga 343 isa/sc 344 isa/vga 345 hostb/agp_amd64 346 vgapci/agp_i810 347 hostb/agp_intel 348 elf32 349 cpu/powernow 350 cpu/est 351 cpu/p4tcc 2 1 0xffffffffb19bb000 912 pflog.ko Contains modules: Id Name 353 pflog 3 1 0xffffffffb19bc000 25abc pf.ko Contains modules: Id Name 352 pf --zhXaljGHf11kAtnf-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 19:52:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F04781065674 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75A1B8FC13 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:52:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.8s) with ESMTP id 235515675-1834499 for multiple; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:50:25 -0400 Received: from localhost.corp.yahoo.com (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m2EJq8vC044156; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:52:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:46:10 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200803141546.10569.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (server.baldwin.cx [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:52:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/6234/Fri Mar 14 14:12:40 2008 on server.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on server.baldwin.cx Cc: Greg Rivers Subject: Re: bin/121684: dump frequently hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:52:19 -0000 On Friday 14 March 2008 12:53:22 am Greg Rivers wrote: > I'm seeing dump hang frequently on RELENG_7 i386. Details and a ktrace in > PR bin/121684. Is anyone else experiencing this? jeff@ just fixed this in HEAD with the latest patch to sys/kern/subr_sleepqueue.c. The patch should apply directly to RELENG_7. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 20:08:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBC31065671 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huubsch@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF288FC21 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:08:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from huubsch@xs4all.nl) Received: from [192.168.1.198] (a213-84-65-193.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.65.193]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr14.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m2EK8Mhu075062 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:08:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from huubsch@xs4all.nl) From: Huub Schuurmans To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080218120043.B7A4316A4C7@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20080218120043.B7A4316A4C7@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:08:21 +0100 Message-Id: <1205525301.9118.16.camel@sirius> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3-1.2mdv2008.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: interrupt storms with AR5414 on 6.3 RELEASE X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:08:25 -0000 .... >> I have a problem running the Atheros AR5414 wireless mini-pci-card >> (Compex model WLM54AGP23) with FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE (GENERIC i 386) on a >> Soekris 4521. > Problem with the ath driver appears to have been solved after I > installed a custom kernel replacing the GENERIC kernel. Update for those interested: The problems with the Atheros card reappeared after some 4 - 5 days. I have replaced this card with a Senao NM that has the Prism chip and uses the wi driver. This has now been running for some weeks without problems (same software, same hardware). Note that there are three wireless cards in the Soekris. Now all wi driven. Huub From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 20:48:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC041065677 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.vladis@gmail.com) Received: from rn-out-0910.google.com (rn-out-0910.google.com [64.233.170.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345D68FC19 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mr.vladis@gmail.com) Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id e11so2898913rng.7 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=CEeWjJ2VGB3+ehX5iHWZickbsUF0BV4EuhCwYm94XcA=; b=bhM9EiFwZcImeeKGBmGWYPFDRN3WlODo40EbUGYcnOdnP0jpVhe9ceHQvdWH2wiH0LrKvB0RntGFzGPrUXq4sfh/zWtJ1lQ9w0gtTmBYGmfr8YE/OfVfXZ9cxFyDqvoJ0G5vca5orNB4W0wbFFzlsQIonCBuGtc0wh/yF3EaqAQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=esw8QRV878XWSpYQ/eotz/KhVvIDzzC+/TqGAZ7rWcZojUsz4zTlvY+qIYYl1kuKtaX3smVD+tJTdIHvxw+1tVDeCQt14Shvn6HoVbzh+o8JyFIAgNdRmWH1rbki8wQ6D5lv7LseFHHFULoO7BZMymJmoIRl6TCYdpg9N8BmOZQ= Received: by 10.150.203.8 with SMTP id a8mr6577505ybg.146.1205527693173; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.206.3 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:48:13 +0200 From: "=?KOI8-R?B?98zBxMnTzMHXIO7FxM/TxcvJzg==?=" To: "Mike Tancsa" In-Reply-To: <200803051631.m25GVBIU002198@lava.sentex.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200803051631.m25GVBIU002198@lava.sentex.ca> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Could Not open some sites from Windows Vista and Server 2008 when using FreeBSD as gw X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:48:14 -0000 Hi, I have found what lines in pf.conf are bloking acess. When I disable this lines pass out on $int_if tagged Q1 keep state queue q1_in pass out on $int_if tagged Q2 keep state queue q2_in pass out on $int_if tagged Q3 keep state queue q3_in pass out on $int_if tagged Q4 keep state queue q4_in It goes very well May be some one could explain this situation. With best regards Vladislav 2008/3/5, Mike Tancsa : > At 03:49 AM 3/5/2008, =?KOI8-R?B?98zBxMnTzMHXIO7FxM/TxcvJzg==?= wrote: > >We are using FreeBSD as GateWay with PF. > >And the problem is that some web-sites as Gmail.com or Msn.com are > >unavailable from machines with Vista or Server 2008 installed. > >If use external or internal proxy (Kerio WinRoute, wich also goes through > >the same FreeBSD gw) they are opening correctly. > >Also in 6.1 version were problems with skype from such machines. > > > Its hard to say without seeing your pf rules. But I seem to recall > issues with Vista where pf rules did not have keep state enabled. > > > ---Mike > > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 21:24:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907E91065672 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from core.stromnet.se (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D698FC12 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:24:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johan@stromnet.se) Received: from localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.131]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002B3D46416; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:23:48 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at stromnet.se Received: from core.stromnet.se ([83.218.84.131]) by localhost (core.stromnet.se [83.218.84.135]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LASz2vj41RPN; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:23:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from johan-mp.stromnet.se (90-224-172-102-no129.tbcn.telia.com [90.224.172.102]) by core.stromnet.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2016D46411; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:23:41 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Johan_Str=F6m?= To: David Schutt In-Reply-To: <47D94EE5.7050003@speco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:24:09 +0100 References: <89A232E0-CB36-4EE0-B66D-DCA4AB6F20DD@stromnet.se> <47D85B27.1000006@osoft.us> <47D86A01.8070500@osoft.us> <67DB8948-8B91-4563-8D21-FAA88AB5AAD0@stromnet.se> <4356DD9F-7620-4551-A06D-EB6E690A844F@gothic.net.au> <4B137563-3F0C-4E93-82C2-D34FFCA2A448@stromnet.se> <47D94EE5.7050003@speco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:24:19 -0000 On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:57 PM, David Schutt wrote: > Johan Str=F6m wrote: >> On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Sean Winn wrote: >>> For using HP blades and standard iLO (no licensed advance =20 >>> features), it works perfectly well, installing both FreeBSD 5 and =20= >>> 6 on the blades I've tried, using a remote install CD from the =20 >>> Java applet (there's one for remote devices like disks, and one =20 >>> for remote console); there's only text mode but that's plenty to =20 >>> install the OS and enable it to the point of using SSH to manage =20 >>> it from there on in. I'd hope the iLO hardware/software is =20 >>> relatively common to all the HP range :) >>> >>> text mode access continues at all times - the iLO interface is =20 >>> just a remote screen/keyboard onto it, even POST BIOS boot. The =20 >>> external devices are USB mass storage ones, but I didn't have =20 >>> problems booting off the CD and installing it for 6.2. >> Well.. The blades seems to be an exception: >> =95 iLO 2 Standard Blade Edition (unlicensed blade server): >> o Remote Console and IRC >> This is not listed under "iLO 2 Standard (unlicensed:)"... I guess =20= >> that means I'm out of luck unless I want to bang up another $400 =20 >> (listing price).. Which I'd rather not :) >> Anyone running those 360G5's using serial console on a normal =20 >> licensed iLO? > > Yes. We have one DL360 G5, and I was able to get serial console =20 > working using information I found in this thread -- > > = http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-proliant/2007-October/000303.ht= ml > > Only downside is that the physical COM1 becomes unavailable, which =20 > caused some consternation when trying to monitor a UPS :-) That is probably not a big deal for me. Then I guess this should work =20= fine.. I've just played around some on 7.0 with serial console on a =20 regular port (not HP box though), and it seems to work fine. =46rom what I could tell i can just SSH to iLO and enter 'vps' and I =20= get the serial port, and that this works very good = (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-proliant/2007-August/000292.ht= ml=20 ). If anyone thinks opposite, I'd appreciate a line. :) Thanks!= From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 14 23:58:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3E9106566B for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from virtual.micronet.sk (smtp.micronet.sk [84.16.32.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBD78FC14 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:58:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B6E10E80F; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:57:32 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at virtual.micronet.sk Received: from virtual.micronet.sk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (virtual.micronet.sk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nUlAWdmOysFH; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:57:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from DANGER-PC (danger.mcrn.sk [84.16.37.254]) by virtual.micronet.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88ACC10E736; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:57:26 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:00:34 +0100 From: Daniel Gerzo X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.99.3) Professional Organization: The FreeBSD Project X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <261208584.20080315010034@rulez.sk> To: mv In-Reply-To: <200803141359.41616.mrkvrg@acm.org> References: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20080314121439.1a2ff0f5.mspitzer@gmail.com> <200803141359.41616.mrkvrg@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:58:52 -0000 Hello mv, Friday, March 14, 2008, 6:59:39 PM, you wrote: > Hello Marc, > Does "yes it is" mean the book is > - still relevant; or > - a second edition is coming soon. > As a newbie I'm also interested in this book. Assuming the second > edition covers FreeBSD 7 or 8, I would rather wait for it rather than > purchase the first edition. +1; -- Best regards, Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 15 00:00:39 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415771065679 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C1E8FC18 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 596FD1A4D82; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:59:36 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Daniel Gerzo Message-ID: <20080314235936.GZ67856@elvis.mu.org> References: <945136.92642.qm@web57010.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <20080314121439.1a2ff0f5.mspitzer@gmail.com> <200803141359.41616.mrkvrg@acm.org> <261208584.20080315010034@rulez.sk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <261208584.20080315010034@rulez.sk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, mv Subject: Re: Re[2]: The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:00:39 -0000 * Daniel Gerzo [080314 16:58] wrote: > Hello mv, > > Friday, March 14, 2008, 6:59:39 PM, you wrote: > > > Hello Marc, > > > Does "yes it is" mean the book is > > > - still relevant; or > > > - a second edition is coming soon. > > > As a newbie I'm also interested in this book. Assuming the second > > edition covers FreeBSD 7 or 8, I would rather wait for it rather than > > purchase the first edition. > > +1; Waiting is likely going to be a while, also, waiting pushes the number of sales down so that the likelyhood of the book being funded is lower. Get the current book, it's worth it. the next one will be worth it too. > > -- > Best regards, > Daniel mailto:danger@FreeBSD.org > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- - Alfred Perlstein From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 15 02:52:51 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE232106566C for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jroberson@chesapeake.net) Received: from webaccess-cl.virtdom.com (webaccess-cl.virtdom.com [216.240.101.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB4B8FC16 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:52:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jroberson@chesapeake.net) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (cpe-24-94-75-93.hawaii.res.rr.com [24.94.75.93]) (authenticated bits=0) by webaccess-cl.virtdom.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m2F2qjua003560; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:52:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jroberson@chesapeake.net) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:54:00 -1000 (HST) From: Jeff Roberson X-X-Sender: jroberson@desktop To: Rong-en Fan In-Reply-To: <6eb82e0803140947q1d6b0fa3kc8eac475263a5c74@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080314164730.F1091@desktop> References: <200803121605.m2CG5Z6q052120@lurza.secnetix.de> <6eb82e0803140947q1d6b0fa3kc8eac475263a5c74@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Oliver Fromme , Christopher Sean Hilton , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SchedULE vs BSD scheduler - Was: HP ProLiant DL360 G5 success stories? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:52:51 -0000 On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Rong-en Fan wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Christopher Sean Hilton > wrote: >> >> On Mar 12, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Oliver Fromme wrote: >> >> > >> > Those machines work very well with both FreeBSD 6 and 7. >> > If you install FreeBSD 7, remember to enable ULE instead >> > of the default BSD scheduler. >> > >> >> What's the advantage of ULE / disadvantage of the default? Is it >> specific to this hardware? > > It gives you better performance. You may want to check Kris's slides > > http://people.freebsd.org/~kris/scaling/7.0%20and%20beyond.pdf We have found a couple of small performance problems since 7.0 in ULE that will be addressed for 7.1. ULE in CURRENT has already diverged too seriously to backport entirely. In general you'll get better performance for things like databases, network servers, etc. However, you may not get better performance for buildworld/kernel, or user-space heavy computationally intensive things like setiathome. Since the fixes that are going into 7.1 (not yet in RELENG_7), I do not believe we've found a workload where 4BSD outperforms ULE by more than a couple of percent if that. And there are many where ULE wins by over 30%. It was not made default for 7.0 because the stability came too late. It ended up being plenty stable so we recommend users try it now. We just didn't have enough experience with it at the time. Thanks, Jeff > > Regards, > Rong-En Fan > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 15 03:01:41 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B366F106567A; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B1B8FC16; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:01:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@elvis.mu.org) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id ECF0C1A4D82; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:41:14 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein To: stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20080315024114.GD67856@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: smp@freebsd.org Subject: timeout/untimeout race conditions/crash [patch] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:01:41 -0000 --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline We think we tracked down a defect in timeout/untimeout in FreeBSD. We have reduced the problem to the following scenario: 2+ cpu system, one cpu is running softclock at the same time another thread is running on another cpu which makes use of timeout/untimeout. CPU 0 is running "softclock" CPU 1 is running "driver" with Giant held. softclock: mtx_lock_spin(&callout_lock) softclock: CACHES the callout structure's fields. softclock: sees that it's a CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC softclock: executes this code: if (c->c_flags & CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC) { c->c_func = NULL; c->c_flags = CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC; SLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&callfree, c, c_links.sle); curr_callout = NULL; } else { NOTE: that c->c_func has been set to NULL and curr_callout is also NULL. softclock: mtx_unlock_spin(&callout_lock) driver: calls untimeout(), the following sequence happens: mtx_lock_spin(&callout_lock); if (handle.callout->c_func == ftn && handle.callout->c_arg == arg) callout_stop(handle.callout); mtx_unlock_spin(&callout_lock); NOTE: untimeout() sees that handle.callout->c_func is not set to the function so it does NOT call callout_stop(9)! driver: free's backing structure for c->c_arg. softclock: executes callout. softclock: likely crashes at this point due to access after free. I have a patch I'm trying out here, but I need feedback on it. The way the patch works is to treat CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC (timeout/untimeout) callouts the same as ~CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC allocs, and moves the freelist manipulation to the end of the callout dispatch. Some light testing seems to have the system work. We are doing some testing in-house to also make sure this works. Please provide feedback. See attached delta. -- - Alfred Perlstein --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP Content-Type: text/x-diff; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="kern_timeout.diff" Index: kern_timeout.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvs/ncvs/src/sys/kern/kern_timeout.c,v retrieving revision 1.97.2.2 diff -u -r1.97.2.2 kern_timeout.c --- kern_timeout.c 26 Sep 2005 19:49:12 -0000 1.97.2.2 +++ kern_timeout.c 15 Mar 2008 02:28:48 -0000 @@ -241,17 +241,8 @@ c_arg = c->c_arg; c_mtx = c->c_mtx; c_flags = c->c_flags; - if (c->c_flags & CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC) { - c->c_func = NULL; - c->c_flags = CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC; - SLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&callfree, c, - c_links.sle); - curr_callout = NULL; - } else { - c->c_flags = - (c->c_flags & ~CALLOUT_PENDING); - curr_callout = c; - } + c->c_flags &= ~CALLOUT_PENDING; + curr_callout = c; curr_cancelled = 0; mtx_unlock_spin(&callout_lock); if (c_mtx != NULL) { @@ -310,6 +301,12 @@ mtx_unlock(c_mtx); mtx_lock_spin(&callout_lock); done_locked: + if (c->c_flags & CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC) { + c->c_func = NULL; + c->c_flags = CALLOUT_LOCAL_ALLOC; + SLIST_INSERT_HEAD(&callfree, c, + c_links.sle); + } curr_callout = NULL; if (wakeup_needed) { /* --F8dlzb82+Fcn6AgP-- From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 15 12:37:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA8C106564A for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:37:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from razor@dataxnet.ro) Received: from mail.dataxnet.ro (datax28.mediasat.ro [80.96.28.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8610D8FC14 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:37:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from razor@dataxnet.ro) Received: (qmail 9765 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Mar 2008 14:37:10 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:37:10 +0200 From: Alex Popa To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20080315123710.GA6773@dataxnet.ro> References: <20080314192359.GA4677@dataxnet.ro> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080314192359.GA4677@dataxnet.ro> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Subject: Re: Lock Order Reversal on 7.0-STABLE with pf and ipfw / dummynet (extra details) X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:37:14 -0000 Extra details: The machine shows no problems when running 6.2-RELEASE-p7 / i386. Upgrading to 6.3-RELEASE / i386 caused the machine to start randomly locking up, much faster than 7.0 (about 4 hours versus 12+) Have tried 7.0-RELEASE/i386, 7.0-RELEASE/amd64, both with SMP support. I've also tried 7.0-RELEASE/i386 without SMP support. All of them exhibited the lockups (amd64 with SMP locked up after most time, the others were much faster to lock up but this isn't statistically proven). Alex -- "Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes" -- E. W. Dijkstra From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 15 20:36:42 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965AB106564A for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569338FC12 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:36:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B778B46B28; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:36:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Alex Popa In-Reply-To: <20080314192359.GA4677@dataxnet.ro> Message-ID: <20080315203121.I42065@fledge.watson.org> References: <20080314192359.GA4677@dataxnet.ro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: mlaier@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Lock Order Reversal on 7.0-STABLE with pf and ipfw / dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:36:42 -0000 On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Alex Popa wrote: > World was cvsupped on March 6th, around 18:00 GMT. > > Built and installed kernel + world, with options WITNESS and > WITNESS_SKIPSPIN. > > Short background: 7.0-RELEASE had excellent performance on the machine, but > it would randomly lock up after some hours (usually over 10 hours). The > lockups were hard, meaning nothing seemed to work (NumLock didn't toggle the > keyboard LED, no replies to ping, no disk activity). We changed the > motherboard and RAM and had the same behaviour. 6.2-REL is rock solid on > this machine (had over 50 days uptime), but upgrading to 6.3-REL made it > lock up just like 7.0 (so we put 6.2 back and accepted the lower performance > for the time being). > > The LOR messages from dmesg of 7.0-STABLE are as follows: > > lock order reversal: > 1st 0xffffffffb19e0680 pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @ /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf.c:6729 > 2nd 0xffffff00042ea0f0 radix node head (radix node head) @ /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:147 > lock order reversal: > 1st 0xffffffff80938508 PFil hook read/write mutex (PFil hook read/write mutex) @ /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:73 > 2nd 0xffffffff80938c48 tcp (tcp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:400 Dear Alex, Thanks for this report, and sorry about the problem. It could well be that the lock order warning from WITNESS is related to the hang, and might reflect a recursion-related bug in the pf policy routing code. I'm not sure to what extent you can tolerate further downtime, but it would be useful to gather some more information about the hang itself to try and confirm the involvement of lock order. In particular, if it's feasible, it would be very helpful if you could boot back to the 7-STABLE kernel (keeping the 6.2-STABLE userspace should be fine, I think), and when the hang occurs, use the console debuggger (ideally hooked up to serial or firewire) to run the following debugging commands: show pcpu show allpcpu trace alltrace show allocks show witness show lockedvnods show uma show malloc A shot-in-the-dark guess is that something about pf's interactions with the protocol stack is involved here, but unfortunately I suspect we'll need some more information to track it down. Also, could you confirm if you're using any credential-related firewall rules with either ipfw or pf? These would be uid/gid/jail matching rules. Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge > > More details about the machine in the attached dmesg. It's a SMP with > 4GB of RAM, 3 gigabit cards (em0, em1 and, depending on the motherboard > we used, either bge0 or msk0). Only em0 is linked to a gigabit port, > the others are 100Mbits/s > > My setup has in-kernel IPFIREWALL, IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE, > IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, DUMMYNET. I have commented out INET6, > SCTP and the wireless interfaces. WITNESS and WITNESS_SKIPSPIN were > only added in the hope of figuring out what locks it up, and they did > signal these 2 LORs. > > pf and pflog are loaded as modules (pf_enable and pflog_enable set to > yes in rc.conf). > > - The ipfw/dummynet side: > > I use net.link.ether.ipfw = 1 for MAC address checking, ipfw + dummynet > for traffic shaping (4 queues at 95Mbits/s for the 2 external interfaces > in/out, and 4 more queues for traffic that goes outside the AS group for > which we have fast access). Deciding which queue traffic goes in > depends on its source address and whether its destination is in ipfw > tables 1, 2 or none. These tables are synchronized from pf tables via a > custom script in crontab, which runs every 3 minutes. The pf tables > used as source for these are controlled by OpenBGPD. > > - The pf side: > > Filtering is done here, as is policy routing. Filtering also contains > redirecting to a transparent squid proxy of traffic destined to port 80 > but not bound for networks received via BGP and saved to tables > and . Metro and special port 80 traffic goes directly to > the destination server. > > Traffic from net1 and net2 is routed via the "other" external interface, > which doesn't contain the default route... with the exception of traffic > to pf table (from BGP, same as table 2 in ipfw). Traffic to > is routed via fastroute in pf (meaning using the default > route). > > Attached are full dmesg and the kernel config. > > I still have access to the hard drive with 7.0-STABLE on it, but not the > motherboard/CPU and the network cards... they are running off the hard > drive with 6.2 on it. > > -- > "Computer science is no more about computers > than astronomy is about telescopes" -- E. W. Dijkstra > From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 15 21:30:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EE78106566B for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B198FC1E for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from amd64.laiers.local (dslb-088-066-008-052.pools.arcor-ip.net [88.66.8.52]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKxQS-1Jadjh0Wfe-000320; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:16:13 +0100 From: Max Laier Organization: FreeBSD To: Alex Popa Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:16:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20080314192359.GA4677@dataxnet.ro> <20080315203121.I42065@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20080315203121.I42065@fledge.watson.org> X-Face: ,,8R(x[kmU]tKN@>gtH1yQE4aslGdu+2]; R]*pL,U>^H?)gW@49@wdJ`H<=?utf-8?q?=25=7D*=5FBD=0A=09U=5For=3D=5CmOZf764=26nYj=3DJYbR1PW0ud?=>|!~,,CPC.1-D$FG@0h3#'5"k{V]a~.<=?utf-8?q?mZ=7D44=23Se=7Em=0A=09Fe=7E=5C=5DX5B=5D=5Fxj?=(ykz9QKMw_l0C2AQ]}Ym8)fU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1488400.EEhlPe4bs8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200803152217.02568.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/hVzp6XCqshOeeUNc4ROpAXeKA3/qZDgkjs0e AqQWtnXP4jIqNnsBgwq6nCnyFTj2ysMWZ80vNVksJs2TxiZOyF s/aK743pUTmxzZeELkZcidSGKYQuVmuYS550ZRtQLw= Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Robert Watson Subject: Re: Lock Order Reversal on 7.0-STABLE with pf and ipfw / dummynet X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:30:18 -0000 --nextPart1488400.EEhlPe4bs8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Saturday 15 March 2008, Robert Watson wrote: > On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, Alex Popa wrote: > > World was cvsupped on March 6th, around 18:00 GMT. > > > > Built and installed kernel + world, with options WITNESS and > > WITNESS_SKIPSPIN. > > > > Short background: 7.0-RELEASE had excellent performance on the > > machine, but it would randomly lock up after some hours (usually over > > 10 hours). The lockups were hard, meaning nothing seemed to work > > (NumLock didn't toggle the keyboard LED, no replies to ping, no disk > > activity). We changed the motherboard and RAM and had the same > > behaviour. 6.2-REL is rock solid on this machine (had over 50 days > > uptime), but upgrading to 6.3-REL made it lock up just like 7.0 (so > > we put 6.2 back and accepted the lower performance for the time > > being). > > > > The LOR messages from dmesg of 7.0-STABLE are as follows: > > > > lock order reversal: > > 1st 0xffffffffb19e0680 pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @ > > /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf.c:6729 2nd > > 0xffffff00042ea0f0 radix node head (radix node head) @ > > /usr/src/sys/net/route.c:147 I haven't seen this one before, can you obtain the trace for this, please? = =20 You might need KDB & DDB for that - not sure. > > lock order reversal:=20 > > 1st 0xffffffff80938508 PFil hook read/write mutex (PFil hook > > read/write mutex) @ /usr/src/sys/net/pfil.c:73 2nd 0xffffffff80938c48 > > tcp (tcp) @ /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:400 This one is most certainly harmless and can be ignored. It is caused by=20 user/group rules, but a LOR with the read instance of a rwlock will not=20 lead to a deadlock. > Dear Alex, > > Thanks for this report, and sorry about the problem. It could well be > that the lock order warning from WITNESS is related to the hang, and > might reflect a recursion-related bug in the pf policy routing code.=20 > I'm not sure to what extent you can tolerate further downtime, but it > would be useful to gather some more information about the hang itself > to try and confirm the involvement of lock order. In particular, if > it's feasible, it would be very helpful if you could boot back to the > 7-STABLE kernel (keeping the 6.2-STABLE userspace should be fine, I you'll need at least a new pfctl, because the ioctl interface to /dev/pf=20 has changed. > think), and when the hang occurs, use the console debuggger (ideally > hooked up to serial or firewire) to run the following debugging > commands: > > show pcpu > show allpcpu > trace > alltrace > show allocks > show witness > show lockedvnods > show uma > show malloc > > A shot-in-the-dark guess is that something about pf's interactions with > the protocol stack is involved here, but unfortunately I suspect we'll > need some more information to track it down. > > Also, could you confirm if you're using any credential-related firewall > rules with either ipfw or pf? These would be uid/gid/jail matching > rules. > > Robert N M Watson > Computer Laboratory > University of Cambridge > > > More details about the machine in the attached dmesg. It's a SMP > > with 4GB of RAM, 3 gigabit cards (em0, em1 and, depending on the > > motherboard we used, either bge0 or msk0). Only em0 is linked to a > > gigabit port, the others are 100Mbits/s > > > > My setup has in-kernel IPFIREWALL, IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE, > > IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT, DUMMYNET. I have commented out INET6, > > SCTP and the wireless interfaces. WITNESS and WITNESS_SKIPSPIN were > > only added in the hope of figuring out what locks it up, and they did > > signal these 2 LORs. > > > > pf and pflog are loaded as modules (pf_enable and pflog_enable set to > > yes in rc.conf). > > > > - The ipfw/dummynet side: > > > > I use net.link.ether.ipfw =3D 1 for MAC address checking, ipfw + > > dummynet for traffic shaping (4 queues at 95Mbits/s for the 2 > > external interfaces in/out, and 4 more queues for traffic that goes > > outside the AS group for which we have fast access). Deciding which > > queue traffic goes in depends on its source address and whether its > > destination is in ipfw tables 1, 2 or none. These tables are > > synchronized from pf tables via a custom script in crontab, which > > runs every 3 minutes. The pf tables used as source for these are > > controlled by OpenBGPD. > > > > - The pf side: > > > > Filtering is done here, as is policy routing. Filtering also > > contains redirecting to a transparent squid proxy of traffic destined > > to port 80 but not bound for networks received via BGP and saved to > > tables and . Metro and special port 80 traffic goes > > directly to the destination server. > > > > Traffic from net1 and net2 is routed via the "other" external > > interface, which doesn't contain the default route... with the > > exception of traffic to pf table (from BGP, same as table 2 > > in ipfw). Traffic to is routed via fastroute in pf > > (meaning using the default route). That's quite a complex setup. It would really be interesting to get the=20 trace for the first LOR in order to figure out which code path we are=20 looking at. I have a feeling that it might be the dummynet entry point,=20 but w/o the trace this is only speculation. > > Attached are full dmesg and the kernel config. > > > > I still have access to the hard drive with 7.0-STABLE on it, but not > > the motherboard/CPU and the network cards... they are running off the > > hard drive with 6.2 on it. =2D-=20 /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News --nextPart1488400.EEhlPe4bs8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBH3DzOXyyEoT62BG0RAh02AJ9hiDNrJqYSk9CkSGQFhKHakG5XDwCdHICn vy+CLMkO02wlNUYqjhRxD9k= =NmmE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1488400.EEhlPe4bs8--