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On 2008-11-07, at 12:17 , Ken Smith wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 00:00 -0500, Rory Arms wrote:
>> Well, if I can assist with further debugging, let me know.
>
> The person who followed up with a list of things that *may* have made
> the problem go away mentioned one of the things was disabling powerd.
> Do you have that enable, and if yes would you mind disabling it to see
> if that's the culprit?

Ken,

Ok, guess something is amiss with the CD-ROM drive on this notebook,  
as in GNOME, it flashes an icon of a CD on the desktop from time to  
time, as if it has detected a disc in the drive. But of course there  
is no disc in the drive. I believe it did the same with 6.3 though,  
but as said before didn't ever panic due to this issue.

So, some anecdotal info, after running RC2 for a few days now. It  
seems the pattern is that it seems to always panic a few minutes after  
a first cold boot, but then seems to remain stable after the second  
boot. Odd, as with 6.3 this didn't happen. So, I happened to catch a  
panic while working in the syscons console after one of these cold  
boots. As far as I can tell,  the panic does have something to do with  
the the CD-ROM drive, as right after I saw this message on the  
console, it immediately paniced:

acd0: WARNING - PREVENT_ALLOW read data overrun 18>0

and then the panic is as follows:

kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address			= 0x78
fault code				= supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer			= 0x20:0xc06d39b9
stack pointer				= 0x28:0xca865c10
frame pointer				= 0x28:0xca865c14
code segment				= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
					= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags			= resume, IOPL = 0
current process				= 19 (swi6: task queue)
trap number				= 12
panic: page fault
Uptime: 1h9m7s
Physical memory: 179MB
Dumping 43MB: 28 12
Dump complete

This is also the computer, as you may recall, that I can't ever get  
kgdb(1) to open the core dump file. Note the uptime on that particular  
boot was 1h because I pretty much let it sit idle after booting. So,  
gdm loaded and then I switched to syscons, logged in, and then pretty  
much let it idle, till it paniced.

Hope that helps,

- rory

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Lorenzo Perone wrote:

Hi,

> I've been experiencing problems with one of the machines running FreeBSD 
> 7.1-PRERELEASE #2: Thu Oct 16 20:23:09 CEST 2008 with the multi-ip patch 
> bz_jail7-20080920-01-at150161.diff, and I'm wondering if it possibly related 
> to the patch - in any case, any advice would be very welcome.

bottom line is that most of this looks less likely to be a jail
problem.


> It happens that mysql (tried both 4.0 and 5.1, in 2 separate jails), at some 
> time stop responding to connections, and mysql gets stuck in sbwait state. It 
> is only killable with kill -9 <pid>

Yeah, I had been seeing mysql hang or go to 99% CPU for years once in
a while; it's been more rare the last months. I have seen it in- and
outside of jails, with or without patches.

You could try to see if you can get backtraces of those processes.


> each of the two mysqlds is running in a jail on one private IP, serving 
> connections to a webserver nearby - the latter having one public and one 
> private IP, communicating with the other jail via the private network.
>
> I also experienced two complete system hangs (which must not be necessarily 
> related to the mysql problem) both during a shutdown -r now. one was a panic, 
> in another case the machine was still pingable but did not shut down 
> completely. I could only reset it over the DRAC. here's a screenshot I made 
> over the Dell RAC: http://lorenzo.yellowspace.net/stuck.png

Looking at your image I see more problems before the shutdown so this
as well is most likely not a jail problem.


> Since I'm also using zfs there and the kernel has been built with the DTRACE 
> options.
>
> any advice (also about which more details that I should/could provide) would 
> be very welcome...

I am Cc:ing the answer to stable@ and setting reply-to: to move the discussion there.


/bz

-- 
Bjoern A. Zeeb              Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game.

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>Ok, guess something is amiss with the CD-ROM drive on this notebook,  
>as 
in GNOME, it flashes an icon of a CD on the desktop from time to  
>time, as if 
it has detected a disc in the drive. But of course there  
>is no disc in the 
drive. I believe it did the same with 6.3 though,  
>but as said before didn't 
ever panic due to this issue.
>
>So, some anecdotal info, after running RC2 for 
a few days now. It  
>seems the pattern is that it seems to always panic a few 
minutes after  
>a first cold boot, but then seems to remain stable after the 
second  
>boot. Odd, as with 6.3 this didn't happen. So, I happened to catch 
a  
>panic while working in the syscons console after one of these cold  

>boots. As far as I can tell,  the panic does have something to do with  
>the 
the CD-ROM drive, as right after I saw this message on the  
>console, it 
immediately paniced:
>
>acd0: WARNING - PREVENT_ALLOW read data overrun 18>0
>

>and then the panic is as follows:
>
>kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
>

>Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>fault virtual address			= 0x78

>fault code				= supervisor read, page not present
>instruction pointer			= 
0x20:0xc06d39b9
>stack pointer				= 0x28:0xca865c10
>frame pointer				= 0x28:
0xca865c14
>code segment				= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>					= DPL 0, 
pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>processor eflags			= resume, IOPL = 0
>current process	
			= 19 (swi6: task queue)
>trap number				= 12
>panic: page fault
>Uptime: 
1h9m7s
>Physical memory: 179MB
>Dumping 43MB: 28 12
>Dump complete

Hi Rory,

did you see my replies or are you missing them for any reason?

Your panics and 
some aspects about how they happens look like mine to me, look here:
http:
//lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-October/045865.html


Unfortunately I got no answer about that and I've had no comment in the pr I've 
filed http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128076
I wonder if someone had 
the time to look at it.



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On 2008-11-16, at 7:24 , Barbara wrote:

>
>
>
>> Ok, guess something is amiss with the CD-ROM drive on this notebook,
>> as
> in GNOME, it flashes an icon of a CD on the desktop from time to
>> time, as if
> it has detected a disc in the drive. But of course there
>> is no disc in the
> drive. I believe it did the same with 6.3 though,
>> but as said before didn't
> ever panic due to this issue.
>>
>> So, some anecdotal info, after running RC2 for
> a few days now. It
>> seems the pattern is that it seems to always panic a few
> minutes after
>> a first cold boot, but then seems to remain stable after the
> second
>> boot. Odd, as with 6.3 this didn't happen. So, I happened to catch
> a
>> panic while working in the syscons console after one of these cold
>
>> boots. As far as I can tell,  the panic does have something to do  
>> with
>> the
> the CD-ROM drive, as right after I saw this message on the
>> console, it
> immediately paniced:
>>
>> acd0: WARNING - PREVENT_ALLOW read data overrun 18>0
>>
>
>> and then the panic is as follows:
>>
>> kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled
>>
>
>> Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
>> fault virtual address			= 0x78
>
>> fault code				= supervisor read, page not present
>> instruction pointer			=
> 0x20:0xc06d39b9
>> stack pointer				= 0x28:0xca865c10
>> frame pointer				= 0x28:
> 0xca865c14
>> code segment				= base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b
>> 					= DPL 0,
> pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
>> processor eflags			= resume, IOPL = 0
>> current process	
> 			= 19 (swi6: task queue)
>> trap number				= 12
>> panic: page fault
>> Uptime:
> 1h9m7s
>> Physical memory: 179MB
>> Dumping 43MB: 28 12
>> Dump complete
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> did you see my replies or are you missing them for any reason?

Yes, I have seen your replies. I must have missed the PR you mentioned  
last time, sorry.
>
>
> Your panics and
> some aspects about how they happens look like mine to me, look here:
> http:
> //lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-October/045865.html

Yes, indeed. That looks very similar to the issue I'm running into  
with 6.4-RC2 as well. Sounds like it might be a regression in ata(4).  
At least you were able to open the core dump. Are you still able to  
open core dumps with RC2?

>
>
>
> Unfortunately I got no answer about that and I've had no comment in  
> the pr I've
> filed http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128076
> I wonder if someone had
> the time to look at it.
>


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> > Hi Rory,
> >
> > did you see my replies or are you missing them for any reason?
> 
> Yes, I have seen your replies. I must have missed the PR you mentioned =
 
> last time, sorry.

No problem!

> > Your panics and
> > some aspects about how they happens look like mine to me, look here:
> > http:
> > //lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-October/045865.html=

> 
> Yes, indeed. That looks very similar to the issue I'm running into  
> with 6.4-RC2 as well. Sounds like it might be a regression in ata(4).  =

> At least you were able to open the core dump. Are you still able to  
> open core dumps with RC2?
> 

I'm not sure. I'm running STABLE and I had no panics after the branch has=
 changed to RC2. It seems that my panics are not frequent as yours.
Anyway my box freezed a couple of times after last newvers.sh and the sym=
ptoms looked like the same, with messages about acd0. I was able to ping =
it but it won't let me ssh in, like it was using all the cpus.

About kgdb...
I never used freebsd-update, so sorry if I'm saying something stupid, but=
 could it be the case that the kernel has been built without debugging sy=
mbols or something like that? Does freebsd-update provide a kernel.debug?=

I've seen that you are not using shiny quad-core, but could you try build=
ing a kernel by yourself? I think that you could do it using a different,=
 more powerful, freebsd box if you have it, or even on qemu. I could help=
 if you wish.




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On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:22:11PM +0100, Claus Guttesen wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I'm looking at a qlogic qle2462 hba for my dl360 g5. The thread
> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-stable@freebsd.org/msg99497.html
> mentions a deadlock when system is loaded. Has this issue been
> resolved? Are there other PCI Express hba's which are known to work
> with freebsd stable and dl360 g5?


Hello,

no, the issue has not been resolved. The system still deadlocks
regardless the value of tag openings (even when set to the minimum
value of 2) and the filesystem gets corrupted or totally destroyed. 

I am still looking for a solution and willing to do any tests.

Regards,
Panagiotis

-- 
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On 2008-11-16, at 17:28 , barbara wrote:

>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> did you see my replies or are you missing them for any reason?
>>
>> Yes, I have seen your replies. I must have missed the PR you  
>> mentioned
>> last time, sorry.
>
> No problem!
>
>>> Your panics and
>>> some aspects about how they happens look like mine to me, look here:
>>> http:
>>> //lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2008-October/ 
>>> 045865.html
>>
>> Yes, indeed. That looks very similar to the issue I'm running into
>> with 6.4-RC2 as well. Sounds like it might be a regression in ata(4).
>> At least you were able to open the core dump. Are you still able to
>> open core dumps with RC2?
>>
>
> I'm not sure. I'm running STABLE and I had no panics after the  
> branch has changed to RC2. It seems that my panics are not frequent  
> as yours.
> Anyway my box freezed a couple of times after last newvers.sh and  
> the symptoms looked like the same, with messages about acd0. I was  
> able to ping it but it won't let me ssh in, like it was using all  
> the cpus.
>
> About kgdb...
> I never used freebsd-update, so sorry if I'm saying something  
> stupid, but could it be the case that the kernel has been built  
> without debugging symbols or something like that? Does freebsd- 
> update provide a kernel.debug?

I haven't had to use a the kernel.debug file in the obj dir in a long  
time. As far as I know, these days, the GENERIC kernel includes debug  
symbols. And in cases when there aren't any debug symbols, that  
shouldn't prevent kgdb from loading, I wouldn't think.

- rory

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Philip Murray wrote:
> Anyway, I stopped running 3dmd (or 3dm2 I think it's called now) to
> monitor it, and the crashes went away. It's had hundreds of days
> uptime since.


We have never used 3dm2, and the 9500 units have been rock solid for us.

> I've never been game enough to try newer versions of 3dm, but a
> cronjob of tw_cli allows me to monitor it now without the lockups.
> Might not be your problem, but it's worth a shot if all else fails.

The driver logs all useful stuff, and the SEC logfile surfer does a  
good job of notifying you quickly.   I can send you an SEC  
configuration for that if you want.

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On Nov 12, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Philip Murray wrote:
> I just installed sysutils/tw_cli from ports, and it sets up some  
> 'periodic' scripts for you. To be precise it puts 407.status-3ware- 
> raid in /usr/local/etc/periodic/daily


Don't use that.   It's a very old version of the code.  Use the binary  
version of tw_cli that matches the firmware on your controller.

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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 08:54:53PM +0300, Panagiotis Christias wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 09:44:15AM +0400, Oleg Sharoiko wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 01:23 +0300, Panagiotis Christias wrote:
> > 
> > > However, when we connect them to the CX3-40, create and mount a new
> > > partition and then do something as simple as "tar -C /san -xf ports.tgz"
> > > the system panics and deadlocks. We have tried several FreeBSD versions
> > > (6.3 i386/adm64, 7.0 i386/adm64, 7.1 i386/adm64 and lastly 7-STABLE i386
> > > - we also tried the latest 8-CURRENT snapshot but it panicked too soon).
> > > The result is always the same; panic and deadlock.
> > 
> > Try reducing the number of "tagged openings" with 'camcontrol tags' down
> > to 46. If it doesn't work try reducing it further to 2. Also be advised
> > that I've seen panics with geom_multipath in FreeBSD-7, unfortunately I
> > had no time to test it in -current.
> 
> 
> Hm.. that would probably explain the fact that I was unable to panic the
> system when I had set the hint.isp.0.debug="0x1F" in /boot/device.hints.
> 
> Currently I am stress testing the server with the tagged openings set to
> 44 (first value tested). Until now there is no panic or deadlock. I am
> trying concurrent tar extractions and rsync copies. The filesystem looks
> ok till now according to fsck. I will let it write/copy/delete overnight
> and tomorrow I will try different tagged opening values.
> 
> Thank you for the hint! I am wondering what is the performance penalty
> with decreased tagged openings. Also, is there anything else I could try
> in order to get more useful debug output? I have at least three servers
> that I could use for any kind of tests and I am willing to spend as much
> time I can get to help solving the problem.
> 
> Finally, the only output in the logs is:
> 
> Expensive timeout(9) function: 0xc06f4210(0xc67e1200) 0.059422635 s
> Expensive timeout(9) function: 0xc08d4fd0(0) 0.060676147 s
> 
> I suppose that is related to the CAMDEBUG kernel config options.

For the record, I have done many tests using several stressing tools
in parallel, different FreeBSD versions (up to 7.1beta2), various
filesystem configurations (plain ufs2 with softupdates, ufs2 and
gjournal, zfs) and various tag openings values (down to 2).

Regardless of the configuration, the system deadlocks, panics or the
filesystem gets awfully corrupted within seconds, minutes or a few hours.

The only configuration that seems to work without problems(?) but with
a unacceptable *severe* performance penalty is when tag openings are set
to minimum value of 2 (that is more or less same as disabling tagged
command queueing at all).

All tests ran using a 500 GB RAID5 LUN on an EMC Clariion CX340:

da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: <DGC RAID 5 0326> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-4 device 
da0: Serial Number CK200083100148
da0: 400.000MB/s transfers
da0: Command Queueing Enabled
da0: 512000MB (1048576000 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 65270C)

Previously, a Sun StorEdge T3 was tested which worked flawlessly but
it had a 1 Gbps fibre channel interface, instead of a 4 Gbps that
Clariion has, was recognized as a SCSI-3 device and had 2 tags openings
(no surprise) by default:

da1 at isp1 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da1: <SUN T300 0302> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device 
da1: 100.000MB/s transfers
da1: 241724MB (495050752 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 30815C)

As I mentioned before, I am willing to spend time or/and provide
access to the system for testing and debugging.

Regards,
Panagiotis

-- 
Panagiotis J. Christias    Network Management Center
P.Christias@noc.ntua.gr    National Technical Univ. of Athens, GREECE

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George Hartzell writes:
 > 
 > I have an HP DL360 with a pair of 1TB seagate disks that's been
 > running -STABLE with a ZFS root partition set up using the tools
 > available here:
 > 
 >   http://yds.coolrat.org/zfsboot.shtml
 > 
 > It's been working great.  As part of trying to understand what's going
 > on, I csup'ed to -RELENG earlier today and rebuilt/installed the
 > kernel and world whilst running on the DL360, so everything should be
 > current.
 > 
 > I tried to move the disks into an HP DL320 G4 and it fails to boot
 > because it can't find /dev/mirror/boot (which it wants to mount onto
 > /strap and then parts get nullfs'ed onto /boot and /rescue).  It gives
 > me the opportunity to start a shell, and from that shell I can do a
 > zfs mount -a and get all of the zfs filesystems mounted, but there's
 > nothing in /dev/mirror.  No gmirror status and list are silent.
 > 
 > I can move the disks back into the older machine and they work fine.
 > 
 > I've run fdisk -s ad4 and bsdlabel -A /dev/ad4s1a and diffed the
 > output from the two machines and they're identical.
 > 
 > I've booted with kern.geom.mirror.debug=2 and the DL320G4 tastes
 > /dev/ad4s1a (along with everything else) but doesn't do anything with
 > it.
 > 
 > Any ideas?
 > 

[for the archives]

Solved.  gmirror had been set up with -h specifying the device, and
although the newer server used the same device names for its disks
(ad[46]) it assigned them to different hot swap bays.  Once I switched
the disks everything came up fine.

g.

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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:29 -0000, hartzell wrote:

> George Hartzell writes:
> >
> > I have an HP DL360 with a pair of 1TB seagate disks that's been
> > running -STABLE with a ZFS root partition set up using the tools
> > available here:
> >
> >   http://yds.coolrat.org/zfsboot.shtml
> >
> > It's been working great.  As part of trying to understand what's going
> > on, I csup'ed to -RELENG earlier today and rebuilt/installed the
> > kernel and world whilst running on the DL360, so everything should be
> > current.
> >
> > I tried to move the disks into an HP DL320 G4 and it fails to boot
> > because it can't find /dev/mirror/boot (which it wants to mount onto
> > /strap and then parts get nullfs'ed onto /boot and /rescue).  It gives
> > me the opportunity to start a shell, and from that shell I can do a
> > zfs mount -a and get all of the zfs filesystems mounted, but there's
> > nothing in /dev/mirror.  No gmirror status and list are silent.
> >
> > I can move the disks back into the older machine and they work fine.
> >
> > I've run fdisk -s ad4 and bsdlabel -A /dev/ad4s1a and diffed the
> > output from the two machines and they're identical.
> >
> > I've booted with kern.geom.mirror.debug=2 and the DL320G4 tastes
> > /dev/ad4s1a (along with everything else) but doesn't do anything with
> > it.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
>
> [for the archives]
>
> Solved.  gmirror had been set up with -h specifying the device, and
> although the newer server used the same device names for its disks
> (ad[46]) it assigned them to different hot swap bays.  Once I switched
> the disks everything came up fine.
>
> g.

Wouldn't it be more feasible in this situation to just glabel the disks
and mount them from /dev/<fstype>/<label> instead. Might make your life 
easier in the future for swapping disks.

Example:
/dev/ufs/tmp on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local, gjournal)
/dev/ufs/usr on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
/dev/ufs/var on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)


-- 

  Sincerely,    -- Jason H.  ;;  Networked Systems Engineering.
    The Command Line Kid.    ;;  Multi-user Systems Advocate.
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At 02:16 AM 11/10/2008, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>In message <200811040143.mA41hjaa029665@lava.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writes:
>
> >I tried changing the config so that there is only the fifo log being
> >written to and disabled newsyslog so that syslogd is not getting a
> >HUP signal.  The strange thing is that reading from it gives
> >different results?!?
> >
> >Sometimes doing
> >[ps0278]# fifolog_reader all.fifo | wc
> >>From    0 Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969
> >To      1225760679 Mon Nov  3 20:04:39 2008
> >Read from 1d800
> >       59     413    3068
> >0[ps0278]#
> >
> >and a exactly for 1min it will show the correct results
> >
> >0[ps0278]# fifolog_reader all.fifo | wc
> >>From    0 Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969
> >To      1225760538 Mon Nov  3 20:02:18 2008
> >Read from 0
> >    10765   75995  556816
> >0[ps0278]#
>
>I could fear that you have two fifologs running at the same time,
>possibly as a result of syslogd doing something strange on sighup...

There is nothing really strange about the config.  Any idea on how to resolve?

         ---Mike 


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> The driver logs all useful stuff, and the SEC logfile surfer does a  
> good job of notifying you quickly.   I can send you an SEC  
> configuration for that if you want.

Hm - what is SEC?

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Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Robert Noland wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>>>>> Also just using gre's without the
>>>>> underlying ipsec tunnels seems to
>>>>> work properly.
> 
> The reason for this to my knowledge is:
> http://www.kame.net/dev/cvsweb2.cgi/kame/freebsd2/sys/netinet/ip_icmp.c#rev1.4 
> 
> 
> or looking at recent freebsd code:
> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/netinet/ip_icmp.c#L164
> Look for M_DECRYPTED.
> 
> Now what happens in your case:
> 
> you receive an IPSec ESP packet, which gets decryped, that sets
> M_DECRYPTED on the mbuf passes through various parts, gets up to gre,
> gets decapsulated is an IP packet (again) gets to ip_input, TTL
> expired, icmp_error and it's still the same mbuf that originally got
> the M_DECRYPTED set. Thus the packets is just freed and you never see
> anything.
> 
> So thinking about this has nothing to do with gre (or gif for example
> as well) in first place. It's arguably that passing it on to another
> decapsulation the flag should be cleared when entering gre() for
> example.
> 
> The other question of course is why we do not send the icmp error back
> even on plain ipsec? Is it because we could possibly leak information
> as it's not caught by the policy sending it back?
> 
> /bz
> 
Hi Bjoern,

Thanks for you insight. I see in the ip_icmp.c code what you are talking about.

Thanks,
Steve

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I believe I typed/copied it correctly, but I could be wrong,
and it probably is a typo.

The problem started during the install of a new system build using
the Friday AM CVS bits, and I can't get on the system in any
mode.

Thanks

Jim


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>  > /lib/ld-elf.so.1: /lib/libc.so.7: Undefined symbol _nyssin.
>  
>  I don't recognize and can't find that symbol in my (older) 7-STABLE
>  sources so I'm not sure what might have triggered it.  However,
>  I don't have ld-elf.so.1 in /lib - it's in /libexec.  Is that a
>  typo on your part?
>  
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> Further datapoint.  The system used to run with untuned loader.conf, and
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> The system is running FreeBSD/amd64 7.1-PRERELEASE equipped with 8GB of
> RAM with GENERIC kernel.

With new ZFS I get:

Memory allocation failed:: Cannot allocate memory

Is this expected?

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Hello,
I manage a www (apache), database (postgresql) and e-mail (qmail) with
about 100 Internet domains.
We recently purchased  a DELL MD3000i server with data access through
ISCSI protocol.
I installed  a new server with FreeBSD 7.0 compiled kernel with ISCSI
(v. 2.1) and SCHED_ULE scheduler.
The server's local disk configuration is:
512 MB /
1024 MB SWAP
254 MB / var
2048MB / var/ qmail
512 MB /tmp
~ 70 GB /usr

The apache data (/usr/local/www), postgre (/usr/local/pgsql) and qmail
(/usr/local/vpopmail) are instead on the partition on ISCSI. After
installing all the necessary softwares I tested the machine as mail
server for a one domain and everything worked fine for 2-3 days.
I wanted to test the correct functioning of qmail and of the
reading/writing on ISCSI. On the end of testing I  decided to transfer
all of data (www, DB and e-mail) on the FreeBSD 7.0. I compressed all
the data on the original server (on tar.gz format). I transferred them
on the new server and started to decompress the files. Www data have
been decompressed correctly on the ISCSI disk. But while the messages
were being decompressed (~80GB of tar.gz) and all the DB were being
restored, the server crashed.
The error shown was:

swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 31, size: 4096

This message repeated every 30 seconds.
While restarting with the single user mode I checked there wasn't any
message after the crash in /var/log/messages.

I think 1GB of swap should be enough, since with this configuration on
FreeBSD 5.5 everything worked for over 270 days without reboot.
The local disks are 2 of ~80GB in RAID 1 (mirror) with Gmirror
before installing FreeBSD I tested the 2 disks with the badblocks
software on Slackware which didn't find any r/w error.

Can somebody help me understand why the system crashed this way or how
to avoid future crash?
It's a production server and I can't afford an out-of-service or data loss.

Thank you very much and kind regards.

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Paul B. Mahol wrote:
> On 11/17/08, Sossi Andrej <asossi@dotcom.ts.it> wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>> I manage a www (apache), database (postgresql) and e-mail (qmail) with
>> about 100 Internet domains.
>> We recently purchased  a DELL MD3000i server with data access through
>> ISCSI protocol.
>> I installed  a new server with FreeBSD 7.0 compiled kernel with ISCSI
>> (v. 2.1) and SCHED_ULE scheduler.
>> The server's local disk configuration is:
>> 512 MB /
>> 1024 MB SWAP
>> 254 MB / var
>> 2048MB / var/ qmail
>> 512 MB /tmp
>> ~ 70 GB /usr
>>
>> The apache data (/usr/local/www), postgre (/usr/local/pgsql) and qmail
>> (/usr/local/vpopmail) are instead on the partition on ISCSI. After
>> installing all the necessary softwares I tested the machine as mail
>> server for a one domain and everything worked fine for 2-3 days.
>> I wanted to test the correct functioning of qmail and of the
>> reading/writing on ISCSI. On the end of testing I  decided to transfer
>> all of data (www, DB and e-mail) on the FreeBSD 7.0. I compressed all
>> the data on the original server (on tar.gz format). I transferred them
>> on the new server and started to decompress the files. Www data have
>> been decompressed correctly on the ISCSI disk. But while the messages
>> were being decompressed (~80GB of tar.gz) and all the DB were being
>> restored, the server crashed.
>>     
>
> Which application were used for decompression?
>   
I use this command:
tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz (for file decompression as root)
and
psql -f filename.sql postgres (for restore all databases)
>> The error shown was:
>>
>> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 31, size: 4096
>>     
>
> I believe this can happen any time when to much of swap partition is used.
> If this sort of thing happens often, review memory management of application(s)
> that is causing such scenario, if that is application fault - you have
> two choices:
> get more RAM (this may not always help) or use another application.
> Increasing swap partition will not help much ....
>   
During decompression i sometimes monitor the system with command top and 
I don't see the system use swap at all, but I didn't monitor constantly.
If the problem is caused by tar, what choices do i have to transport 
files from original server to another quickly?
>> This message repeated every 30 seconds.
>> While restarting with the single user mode I checked there wasn't any
>> message after the crash in /var/log/messages.
>>
>> I think 1GB of swap should be enough, since with this configuration on
>> FreeBSD 5.5 everything worked for over 270 days without reboot.
>> The local disks are 2 of ~80GB in RAID 1 (mirror) with Gmirror
>> before installing FreeBSD I tested the 2 disks with the badblocks
>> software on Slackware which didn't find any r/w error.
>>
>> Can somebody help me understand why the system crashed this way or how
>> to avoid future crash?
>> It's a production server and I can't afford an out-of-service or data loss.
>>
>> Thank you very much and kind regards
Thank for your reply.

-- 
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-------------------------
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:18:33PM +0100, Sossi Andrej wrote:
> Hello,
> I manage a www (apache), database (postgresql) and e-mail (qmail) with
> about 100 Internet domains.
> We recently purchased  a DELL MD3000i server with data access through
> ISCSI protocol.
> I installed  a new server with FreeBSD 7.0 compiled kernel with ISCSI
> (v. 2.1) and SCHED_ULE scheduler.
> The server's local disk configuration is:
> 512 MB /
> 1024 MB SWAP
> 254 MB / var
> 2048MB / var/ qmail
> 512 MB /tmp
> ~ 70 GB /usr
>
> The apache data (/usr/local/www), postgre (/usr/local/pgsql) and qmail
> (/usr/local/vpopmail) are instead on the partition on ISCSI. After
> installing all the necessary softwares I tested the machine as mail
> server for a one domain and everything worked fine for 2-3 days.
> I wanted to test the correct functioning of qmail and of the
> reading/writing on ISCSI. On the end of testing I  decided to transfer
> all of data (www, DB and e-mail) on the FreeBSD 7.0. I compressed all
> the data on the original server (on tar.gz format). I transferred them
> on the new server and started to decompress the files. Www data have
> been decompressed correctly on the ISCSI disk. But while the messages
> were being decompressed (~80GB of tar.gz) and all the DB were being
> restored, the server crashed.
> The error shown was:
>
> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 31, size: 4096
>
> This message repeated every 30 seconds.

Is this of any help?

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003383.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-scsi/2008-February/003387.html

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| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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On 11/17/08, Sossi Andrej <asossi@dotcom.ts.it> wrote:
> Hello,
> I manage a www (apache), database (postgresql) and e-mail (qmail) with
> about 100 Internet domains.
> We recently purchased  a DELL MD3000i server with data access through
> ISCSI protocol.
> I installed  a new server with FreeBSD 7.0 compiled kernel with ISCSI
> (v. 2.1) and SCHED_ULE scheduler.
> The server's local disk configuration is:
> 512 MB /
> 1024 MB SWAP
> 254 MB / var
> 2048MB / var/ qmail
> 512 MB /tmp
> ~ 70 GB /usr
>
> The apache data (/usr/local/www), postgre (/usr/local/pgsql) and qmail
> (/usr/local/vpopmail) are instead on the partition on ISCSI. After
> installing all the necessary softwares I tested the machine as mail
> server for a one domain and everything worked fine for 2-3 days.
> I wanted to test the correct functioning of qmail and of the
> reading/writing on ISCSI. On the end of testing I  decided to transfer
> all of data (www, DB and e-mail) on the FreeBSD 7.0. I compressed all
> the data on the original server (on tar.gz format). I transferred them
> on the new server and started to decompress the files. Www data have
> been decompressed correctly on the ISCSI disk. But while the messages
> were being decompressed (~80GB of tar.gz) and all the DB were being
> restored, the server crashed.

Which application were used for decompression?

> The error shown was:
>
> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 31, size: 4096

I believe this can happen any time when to much of swap partition is used.
If this sort of thing happens often, review memory management of application(s)
that is causing such scenario, if that is application fault - you have
two choices:
get more RAM (this may not always help) or use another application.
Increasing swap partition will not help much ....

> This message repeated every 30 seconds.
> While restarting with the single user mode I checked there wasn't any
> message after the crash in /var/log/messages.
>
> I think 1GB of swap should be enough, since with this configuration on
> FreeBSD 5.5 everything worked for over 270 days without reboot.
> The local disks are 2 of ~80GB in RAID 1 (mirror) with Gmirror
> before installing FreeBSD I tested the 2 disks with the badblocks
> software on Slackware which didn't find any r/w error.
>
> Can somebody help me understand why the system crashed this way or how
> to avoid future crash?
> It's a production server and I can't afford an out-of-service or data loss.
>
> Thank you very much and kind regards.
>
> --
> Sossi Andrej
> -------------------------
> DotCom Information technology
>
> Via Biancospino, 9
> 34151 - Opicina (TS)
> Italy
>
> tel: +39 040 2158191
> fax: +39 040 0641954
> E-mail: asossi@dotcom.ts.it
> ----------------------------
>
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CmdLnKid writes:
 > On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:29 -0000, hartzell wrote:
 > 
 > > George Hartzell writes:
 > > >
 > > > I have an HP DL360 with a pair of 1TB seagate disks that's been
 > > > running -STABLE with a ZFS root partition set up using the tools
 > > > available here:
 > > >
 > > >   http://yds.coolrat.org/zfsboot.shtml
 > > >
 > > > It's been working great.  As part of trying to understand what's going
 > > > on, I csup'ed to -RELENG earlier today and rebuilt/installed the
 > > > kernel and world whilst running on the DL360, so everything should be
 > > > current.
 > > >
 > > > I tried to move the disks into an HP DL320 G4 and it fails to boot
 > > > because it can't find /dev/mirror/boot (which it wants to mount onto
 > > > /strap and then parts get nullfs'ed onto /boot and /rescue).  It gives
 > > > me the opportunity to start a shell, and from that shell I can do a
 > > > zfs mount -a and get all of the zfs filesystems mounted, but there's
 > > > nothing in /dev/mirror.  No gmirror status and list are silent.
 > > >
 > > > I can move the disks back into the older machine and they work fine.
 > > >
 > > > I've run fdisk -s ad4 and bsdlabel -A /dev/ad4s1a and diffed the
 > > > output from the two machines and they're identical.
 > > >
 > > > I've booted with kern.geom.mirror.debug=2 and the DL320G4 tastes
 > > > /dev/ad4s1a (along with everything else) but doesn't do anything with
 > > > it.
 > > >
 > > > Any ideas?
 > > >
 > >
 > > [for the archives]
 > >
 > > Solved.  gmirror had been set up with -h specifying the device, and
 > > although the newer server used the same device names for its disks
 > > (ad[46]) it assigned them to different hot swap bays.  Once I switched
 > > the disks everything came up fine.
 > >
 > > g.
 > 
 > Wouldn't it be more feasible in this situation to just glabel the disks
 > and mount them from /dev/<fstype>/<label> instead. Might make your life 
 > easier in the future for swapping disks.
 > 
 > Example:
 > /dev/ufs/tmp on /tmp (ufs, asynchronous, local, gjournal)
 > /dev/ufs/usr on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
 > /dev/ufs/var on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)

Yep, something like that would definitely be an improvement, but the
situation's a bit different.  The failure was caused by trying to
mount /dev/mirror/boot on /strap (Yarema's naming choice), since
gmirror couldn't assemble /dev/ad[46]s1a into the mirror there *was*
no /dev/mirror/boot.  I think one could build a mirror using -h and
glabeled devices, alternately I'm almost certain that just not using
-h would have results in gmirror finding the slices regardless of the
device number they got.

I set this system up as an experiment to play with zfs on a root
filesystem, and in it's most recent configuration used a set of
scripts by Yarema, found here:

   http://yds.coolrat.org/zfsboot.shtml

When I asked Pawel about the gmirror funny business (at meetBSD over
the weekend) he asked me if the mirror had been set up with -h and I
had to sheepishly confess that I didn't know, since I'd just run
Yarema's stuff.

None of my dual-disk boot from gmirror'ed disks systems (based on
Ralf's approach, http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/) use -h and
I'd completely forgotten about it.

Having posted the question as a "mystery", I just thought it'd be
worth posting the outcome.

g.

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I believe there "may be" a regression in the behaviour of ifconfig or
possibly just something I've never experienced before.

Basically when changing the IP of one of our machines, it suddenly
became inaccessible. After some investigation it turned out the machine
was inaccessible from anything other than the local VLAN and continued
diagnostics determined that the process of changing the IP had also
removed the default route.

This was clearly unexpected behaviour as the new IP was on the same
VLAN as the old IP and hence no routing table updates should be
required.

I don't have any older machines to test this on but I believe we have
done this procedure in the past without any such issues so wanted to
raise it here to see if anyone else has had experience with it.

Even if this isn't a regression it may well be something worth fixing
as its quite unexpected behaviour which could render a machine totally
inaccessible.

    Regards
    Steve

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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:11:50PM -0000, Steven Hartland wrote:
> I believe there "may be" a regression in the behaviour of ifconfig or
> possibly just something I've never experienced before.
>
> Basically when changing the IP of one of our machines, it suddenly
> became inaccessible. After some investigation it turned out the machine
> was inaccessible from anything other than the local VLAN and continued
> diagnostics determined that the process of changing the IP had also
> removed the default route.
>
> This was clearly unexpected behaviour as the new IP was on the same
> VLAN as the old IP and hence no routing table updates should be
> required.
>
> I don't have any older machines to test this on but I believe we have
> done this procedure in the past without any such issues so wanted to
> raise it here to see if anyone else has had experience with it.
>
> Even if this isn't a regression it may well be something worth fixing
> as its quite unexpected behaviour which could render a machine totally
> inaccessible.

I can try to reproduce this if you'd like, on a VMware session.

One case where the default route could be (I haven't checked) removed:
some NIC drivers in the past, when changing the "primary IP" (first IP
shown in ifconfig for an interface), would actually bring down the
entire interface (e.g. ifconfig XXX down) then back up again a second or
two later.  dmesg on your machine would be able to confirm whether or
not this is happening.

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| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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From: "Jeremy Chadwick" <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
> I can try to reproduce this if you'd like, on a VMware session.
>
> One case where the default route could be (I haven't checked) removed:
> some NIC drivers in the past, when changing the "primary IP" (first IP
> shown in ifconfig for an interface), would actually bring down the
> entire interface (e.g. ifconfig XXX down) then back up again a second or
> two later.  dmesg on your machine would be able to confirm whether or
> not this is happening.


Thanks Jeremy, no such down up here is show so I believe this is not
the case, here anyway. The interface in question was em0 details:-
em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.3> port 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xfea60000-0xfea7ffff,0xfea40000-0xfea5ffff irq 
23 at device 8.0 on pci1
em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:71:b6:b7
em0: [FILTER]

FreeBSD test 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 
root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

Would be most interested in the results of you vm test if you would
be so kind.

    Regards
    Steve 


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Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Robert Noland wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>>>>> Also just using gre's without the
>>>>> underlying ipsec tunnels seems to
>>>>> work properly.
> 
> The reason for this to my knowledge is:
> http://www.kame.net/dev/cvsweb2.cgi/kame/freebsd2/sys/netinet/ip_icmp.c#rev1.4 
> 
> 
> or looking at recent freebsd code:
> http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/netinet/ip_icmp.c#L164
> Look for M_DECRYPTED.
> 
> Now what happens in your case:
> 
> you receive an IPSec ESP packet, which gets decryped, that sets
> M_DECRYPTED on the mbuf passes through various parts, gets up to gre,
> gets decapsulated is an IP packet (again) gets to ip_input, TTL
> expired, icmp_error and it's still the same mbuf that originally got
> the M_DECRYPTED set. Thus the packets is just freed and you never see
> anything.
> 
> So thinking about this has nothing to do with gre (or gif for example
> as well) in first place. It's arguably that passing it on to another
> decapsulation the flag should be cleared when entering gre() for
> example.
> 
> The other question of course is why we do not send the icmp error back
> even on plain ipsec? Is it because we could possibly leak information
> as it's not caught by the policy sending it back?
> 
> /bz
> 
Update:

Adding this code in ip_icmp.c makes the traceroute work.
	case IPPROTO_GRE:
		hlen += sizeof(struct gre_h);

+        m->m_flags &= ~(M_DECRYPTED);


Steve

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On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 08:45:43PM -0000, Steven Hartland wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Chadwick" <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
>> I can try to reproduce this if you'd like, on a VMware session.
>>
>> One case where the default route could be (I haven't checked) removed:
>> some NIC drivers in the past, when changing the "primary IP" (first IP
>> shown in ifconfig for an interface), would actually bring down the
>> entire interface (e.g. ifconfig XXX down) then back up again a second or
>> two later.  dmesg on your machine would be able to confirm whether or
>> not this is happening.
>
>
> Thanks Jeremy, no such down up here is show so I believe this is not
> the case, here anyway. The interface in question was em0 details:-
> em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.3> port 
> 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xfea60000-0xfea7ffff,0xfea40000-0xfea5ffff irq 23 at 
> device 8.0 on pci1
> em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:71:b6:b7
> em0: [FILTER]
>
> FreeBSD test 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 
> 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
>
> Would be most interested in the results of you vm test if you would
> be so kind.

No problem.  I'm testing on VMware Workstation 6.5.0 build 118116,
RELENG_7 amd64 (world/kernel dated 2008/10/23).


rc.conf (showing DHCP is not in use):

ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.1.190 netmask 255.255.255.0"
defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"

em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM>
        ether 00:0c:29:0a:c9:37
        inet 192.168.1.190 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
        status: active

Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
default            192.168.1.1        UGS         0        0    em0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0
192.168.1.0/24     link#1             UC          0        0    em0
192.168.1.1        link#1             UHLW        2        0    em0
192.168.1.51       00:30:48:d2:22:d0  UHLW        2       50    em0   1107


Command executed: ifconfig em0 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
Aftermath:

em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM>
        ether 00:0c:29:0a:c9:37
        inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
        status: active

Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
10.0.0.0/8         link#1             UC          0        0    em0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0


Command executed: route add default 10.0.0.128
Aftermath:

Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
default            10.0.0.128         UGS         0        0    em0
10.0.0.0/8         link#1             UC          0        0    em0
10.0.0.128         link#1             UHLW        2        0    em0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0

Command executed: ifconfig em0 inet 10.10.10.10 netmask 255.0.0.0
Aftermath:

em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
        options=9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM>
        ether 00:0c:29:0a:c9:37
        inet 10.10.10.10 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
        status: active

Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
10.0.0.0/8         link#1             UC          0        0    em0
127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0


Summary: confirmed.  Above two tests show that even if changing the IP
to something else within the same network block, the default route is
removed and not put back.

This is pretty major, if you ask me.

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> Jo Rhett wrote:
>> The driver logs all useful stuff, and the SEC logfile surfer does a
>> good job of notifying you quickly.   I can send you an SEC
>> configuration for that if you want.

On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
> Hm - what is SEC?


Simple Event Correlator
http://kodu.neti.ee/~risto/sec/
and
/usr/ports/sysutils/sec

Best damn logsurger evar! *giggle*

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This is a bug in my mind, but it's not a regression.  FreeBSD has done  
this for at least 10 years now.  If you are changing the IP of an  
interface, you *must* do a semicolon chained command to a route add  
default.  It's been true for as long as I can remember.

On Nov 17, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Steven Hartland wrote:
> I believe there "may be" a regression in the behaviour of ifconfig or
> possibly just something I've never experienced before.
>
> Basically when changing the IP of one of our machines, it suddenly
> became inaccessible. After some investigation it turned out the  
> machine
> was inaccessible from anything other than the local VLAN and continued
> diagnostics determined that the process of changing the IP had also
> removed the default route.
>
> This was clearly unexpected behaviour as the new IP was on the same
> VLAN as the old IP and hence no routing table updates should be
> required.
>
> I don't have any older machines to test this on but I believe we have
> done this procedure in the past without any such issues so wanted to
> raise it here to see if anyone else has had experience with it.
>
> Even if this isn't a regression it may well be something worth fixing
> as its quite unexpected behaviour which could render a machine totally
> inaccessible.
>
>   Regards
>   Steve
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Thanks for the confirmation on that its not a regression Jo. It really
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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> Summary: confirmed.  Above two tests show that even if changing the IP
> to something else within the same network block, the default route is
> removed and not put back.
> 
> This is pretty major, if you ask me.

I've encountered similar issues before, and typically just added ";
/etc/rc.d/routing restart" or "&& /etc/rc.d/routing restart" after the
ifconfig statement just to be safe.

Typically I had adjusted rc.conf, then used "/etc/rc.d/netif restart;
/etc/rc.d/routing restart"

Jim


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> Thanks for the confirmation on that its not a regression Jo. It really
> is a nasty little bug so I'll raise a PR for it, hopefully someone
> with the power will then fix it :)

This leads to the question - what do people *want* with respect to
static routes? I know what *I* want: The static route behavior that
Cisco, Juniper and other big router vendors have, i.e.

- A configured static route exists in the routing table as long as
the nexthop IP address is valid. If the nexthop becomes invalid (for
instance if you lose link on an Ethernet interface), the static
route is also removed from the routing table.

- But (and here's the big difference) - *if the nexthop comes back*,
for instance because your Ethernet interface gets link again, the
configured static route is inserted into the routing table again.

Note that with this behavior, changing the IP address of an interface
would not result in the default route being deleted, as long as the
nexthop for the default route remained valid.

Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
descriptions too...

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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On 2008-Nov-17 23:36:19 +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
>Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
>descriptions too...

Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:58:35 +0800,Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@freebsd.org>  
wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 06:53:41PM -0800, Xin LI wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Xin LI wrote:
>> > Hi, Pawel,
>> >
>> > We can still reproduce the ZFS crash (threading+heavy I/O load) on a
>> > fresh 7.1-STABLE build, in a few minutes:
>> >
>> > /usr/local/bin/iozone -M -e -+u -T -t 128 -S 4096 -L 64 -r 4k -s 30g  
>> -i
>> > 0 -i 1 -i 2 -i 8 -+p 70 -C
>> >
>> > I have included a backtrace output from my colleague who has his hands
>> > on the test environment.  Should there is more information necessary
>> > please let us know and we wish to provide help on this.
>>
>> Further datapoint.  The system used to run with untuned loader.conf, and
>> my colleague just reported that with the following loader.conf, the
>> problem can be triggered sooner:
>>
>> vm.kmem_size_max=838860800
>> vm.kmem_size_scale="2"
>>
>> The system is running FreeBSD/amd64 7.1-PRERELEASE equipped with 8GB of
>> RAM with GENERIC kernel.
>
> With new ZFS I get:
>
> Memory allocation failed:: Cannot allocate memory
>
> Is this expected?
>

At first, Congratulations to you, thanks to your works, well done!

I used this command on a FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 box with 8GB mem,  
isn't got output like that, but kernel panic.
Maybe you should lower the threads and file size, for example:

/usr/local/bin/iozone -M -e -+u -T -t 64 -S 4096 -L 64 -r 4k -s 2g -i 0 -i  
1 -i 2 -i 8 -+p 70 -C

Actually, we had used this command to test a 8-current with zfs v12 patch  
on July, there is no more panic. So we hope
zfs v13 can MFC as soon as possible, because we really need it now.
-- 
The Power to Serve

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> >Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
> >descriptions too...
> 
> Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
> If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.

It is not what I want.

On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
associate a description string with each interface - where interface 
can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
description string is useful to document things like

- what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
- what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
- what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
- what is this port used for

etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):

interface GigabitEthernet0/12
 description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
 switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536

showing the first three points I mentioned above.

Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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This has now been raised as PR:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=128954

    Regards
    Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Chadwick" <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>

> On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 08:45:43PM -0000, Steven Hartland wrote:
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Chadwick" <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
>>> I can try to reproduce this if you'd like, on a VMware session.
>>>
>>> One case where the default route could be (I haven't checked) removed:
>>> some NIC drivers in the past, when changing the "primary IP" (first IP
>>> shown in ifconfig for an interface), would actually bring down the
>>> entire interface (e.g. ifconfig XXX down) then back up again a second or
>>> two later.  dmesg on your machine would be able to confirm whether or
>>> not this is happening.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Jeremy, no such down up here is show so I believe this is not
>> the case, here anyway. The interface in question was em0 details:-
>> em0: <Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 6.7.3> port 
>> 0xd400-0xd43f mem 0xfea60000-0xfea7ffff,0xfea40000-0xfea5ffff irq 23 at 
>> device 8.0 on pci1
>> em0: Ethernet address: 00:30:48:71:b6:b7
>> em0: [FILTER]
>>
>> FreeBSD test 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 
>> 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
>>
>> Would be most interested in the results of you vm test if you would
>> be so kind.
> 
> No problem.  I'm testing on VMware Workstation 6.5.0 build 118116,
> RELENG_7 amd64 (world/kernel dated 2008/10/23).
> 
> 
> rc.conf (showing DHCP is not in use):
> 
> ifconfig_em0="inet 192.168.1.190 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> defaultrouter="192.168.1.1"
> 
> em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
>        options=9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM>
>        ether 00:0c:29:0a:c9:37
>        inet 192.168.1.190 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
>        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
>        status: active
> 
> Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
> default            192.168.1.1        UGS         0        0    em0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0
> 192.168.1.0/24     link#1             UC          0        0    em0
> 192.168.1.1        link#1             UHLW        2        0    em0
> 192.168.1.51       00:30:48:d2:22:d0  UHLW        2       50    em0   1107
> 
> 
> Command executed: ifconfig em0 inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0
> Aftermath:
> 
> em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
>        options=9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM>
>        ether 00:0c:29:0a:c9:37
>        inet 10.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
>        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
>        status: active
> 
> Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
> 10.0.0.0/8         link#1             UC          0        0    em0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0
> 
> 
> Command executed: route add default 10.0.0.128
> Aftermath:
> 
> Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
> default            10.0.0.128         UGS         0        0    em0
> 10.0.0.0/8         link#1             UC          0        0    em0
> 10.0.0.128         link#1             UHLW        2        0    em0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0
> 
> Command executed: ifconfig em0 inet 10.10.10.10 netmask 255.0.0.0
> Aftermath:
> 
> em0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
>        options=9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM>
>        ether 00:0c:29:0a:c9:37
>        inet 10.10.10.10 netmask 0xff000000 broadcast 10.255.255.255
>        media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX <full-duplex>)
>        status: active
> 
> Destination        Gateway            Flags    Refs      Use  Netif Expire
> 10.0.0.0/8         link#1             UC          0        0    em0
> 127.0.0.1          127.0.0.1          UH          0        0    lo0
> 
> 
> Summary: confirmed.  Above two tests show that even if changing the IP
> to something else within the same network block, the default route is
> removed and not put back.
> 
> This is pretty major, if you ask me.


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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > >Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
> > >descriptions too...
> > 
> > Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
> > If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
> 
> It is not what I want.
> 
> On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
> associate a description string with each interface - where interface 
> can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
> description string is useful to document things like
> 
> - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
> - what is this port used for
> 
> etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
> 
> interface GigabitEthernet0/12
>  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
>  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
> 
> showing the first three points I mentioned above.
> 
> Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.

Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.

Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:

  /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data

and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
How long should this field be at most?

> Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, cpghost wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
>>>> Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
>>>> descriptions too...
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
>>> If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
>>
>> It is not what I want.
>>
>> On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
>> associate a description string with each interface - where interface
>> can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
>> description string is useful to document things like
>>
>> - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
>> - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
>> - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
>> - what is this port used for
>>
>> etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
>>
>> interface GigabitEthernet0/12
>>  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
>>  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
>>
>> showing the first three points I mentioned above.
>>
>> Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.
>
> Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
> boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.
>
> Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:
>
>  /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data
>
> and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
> How long should this field be at most?

This is nothing the really belongs in the kernel.

Add an "interface" to set/get the information per interface (index,
name, ...) and store the actual data in a file maybe.
Make the format extensible to store other meta data that
people may want to think along with it in the future.

After all you want the information to be peristent over a reboot so
you have to write it out somehow anyway.

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On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 12:38 +0100, cpghost wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > > >Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
> > > >descriptions too...
> > > 
> > > Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
> > > If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
> > 
> > It is not what I want.
> > 
> > On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
> > associate a description string with each interface - where interface 
> > can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
> > description string is useful to document things like
> > 
> > - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> > - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> > - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
> > - what is this port used for
> > 
> > etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
> > 
> > interface GigabitEthernet0/12
> >  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
> >  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
> > 
> > showing the first three points I mentioned above.
> > 
> > Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.
> 
> Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
> boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.
> 
> Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:
> 
>   /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data
> 
> and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
> How long should this field be at most?

Patches already existfor one method of implementing this, see PR
kern/83622.

Gavin

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:48:06PM +0000, Gavin Atkinson wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 12:38 +0100, cpghost wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > > > >Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
> > > > >descriptions too...
> > > > 
> > > > Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
> > > > If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
> > > 
> > > It is not what I want.
> > > 
> > > On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
> > > associate a description string with each interface - where interface 
> > > can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
> > > description string is useful to document things like
> > > 
> > > - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> > > - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> > > - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
> > > - what is this port used for
> > > 
> > > etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
> > > 
> > > interface GigabitEthernet0/12
> > >  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
> > >  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
> > > 
> > > showing the first three points I mentioned above.
> > > 
> > > Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.
> > 
> > Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
> > boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.
> > 
> > Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:
> > 
> >   /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data
> > 
> > and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
> > How long should this field be at most?
> 
> Patches already existfor one method of implementing this, see PR
> kern/83622.
> 
> Gavin

Ah yes, that was exactly what I was thinking of!

Thank you for the hint!

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:07:32PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, cpghost wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> >>>> Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
> >>>> descriptions too...
> >>>
> >>> Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
> >>> If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
> >>
> >> It is not what I want.
> >>
> >> On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
> >> associate a description string with each interface - where interface
> >> can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
> >> description string is useful to document things like
> >>
> >> - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> >> - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> >> - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
> >> - what is this port used for
> >>
> >> etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
> >>
> >> interface GigabitEthernet0/12
> >>  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
> >>  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
> >>
> >> showing the first three points I mentioned above.
> >>
> >> Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.
> >
> > Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
> > boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.
> >
> > Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:
> >
> >  /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data
> >
> > and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
> > How long should this field be at most?
> 
> This is nothing the really belongs in the kernel.
> 
> Add an "interface" to set/get the information per interface (index,
> name, ...) and store the actual data in a file maybe.
> Make the format extensible to store other meta data that
> people may want to think along with it in the future.
> 
> After all you want the information to be peristent over a reboot so
> you have to write it out somehow anyway.

Yes, but some interfaces are created on-the-fly, and you never
know in advance which name they'll get (think of tunN, ngN etc...).

If those interfaces are meant to be queried frequently (every few
minutes or so) by an snmpd, wouldn't it be more inefficient to check
an external file than get the meta data from the kernel?

Some network management apps could also decide to use the description
field as a repository for more dynamic data; data that could be queried
by applications running on the hosts. Here too, would'nt it be more
efficient if descr. were in-kernel?

For persistence, an /etc/rc.d script could always set the static
interface descriptions via ifconfig calls any way it likes, including
reading those definitions from a config file. Everything else will
probably be set remotely via the network management software, which
itself has its own persistence store (usually a database).

> Just my 0.02CAD
> 
> /bz
> 
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:23:05PM +0100, cpghost wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:07:32PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, cpghost wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
> > >>>> Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
> > >>>> descriptions too...
> > >>>
> > >>> Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
> > >>> If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
> > >>
> > >> It is not what I want.
> > >>
> > >> On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
> > >> associate a description string with each interface - where interface
> > >> can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
> > >> description string is useful to document things like
> > >>
> > >> - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> > >> - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
> > >> - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
> > >> - what is this port used for
> > >>
> > >> etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
> > >>
> > >> interface GigabitEthernet0/12
> > >>  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
> > >>  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
> > >>
> > >> showing the first three points I mentioned above.
> > >>
> > >> Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.
> > >
> > > Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
> > > boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.
> > >
> > > Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:
> > >
> > >  /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data
> > >
> > > and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
> > > How long should this field be at most?
> > 
> > This is nothing the really belongs in the kernel.
> > 
> > Add an "interface" to set/get the information per interface (index,
> > name, ...) and store the actual data in a file maybe.
> > Make the format extensible to store other meta data that
> > people may want to think along with it in the future.
> > 
> > After all you want the information to be peristent over a reboot so
> > you have to write it out somehow anyway.
> 
> Yes, but some interfaces are created on-the-fly, and you never
> know in advance which name they'll get (think of tunN, ngN etc...).
> 
> If those interfaces are meant to be queried frequently (every few
> minutes or so) by an snmpd, wouldn't it be more inefficient to check
> an external file than get the meta data from the kernel?
> 
> Some network management apps could also decide to use the description
> field as a repository for more dynamic data; data that could be queried
> by applications running on the hosts. Here too, would'nt it be more
> efficient if descr. were in-kernel?
> 
> For persistence, an /etc/rc.d script could always set the static
> interface descriptions via ifconfig calls any way it likes, including
> reading those definitions from a config file. Everything else will
> probably be set remotely via the network management software, which
> itself has its own persistence store (usually a database).

Another reason you want to avoid using a file for this: what about
appliances that run as dedicated routers and boot from a flash-based
read-only filesystem? How would you change the interface description
(remotely or on the console) if you can't write to a file?

> > Bjoern A. Zeeb              Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game.

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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, cpghost wrote:

Hi,

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:23:05PM +0100, cpghost wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:07:32PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, cpghost wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:34:24AM +0100, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh yeah, since we're in wishful thinking mode, I want interface
>>>>>>> descriptions too...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you looked at the 'name' and 'group' keywords in ifconfig(8)?
>>>>>> If this isn't what you want, please expand on your wish.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not what I want.
>>>>>
>>>>> On routers, switches and lots of other boxes from most vendors you can
>>>>> associate a description string with each interface - where interface
>>>>> can be a physical port, or for instance a VLAN based interface. This
>>>>> description string is useful to document things like
>>>>>
>>>>> - what is the box at the other end of the cable connected to this port
>>>>> - what is the port at the other end of the cable connected to this port
>>>>> - what is the circuit id for the circuit this port is connected to
>>>>> - what is this port used for
>>>>>
>>>>> etc. Typical example, from one of our switches (Cisco syntax):
>>>>>
>>>>> interface GigabitEthernet0/12
>>>>>  description TO: fs1.td  ID: BTN-11510092  TXT: gi1/0/7 EoSDH 50 Mbps
>>>>>  switchport trunk allowed vlan 123,770,1024,1500,1504,1528,1536
>>>>>
>>>>> showing the first three points I mentioned above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such a description string is can normally be retrieved using SNMP.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that's a very useful addition. I'm administering a lot of Cisco
>>>> boxes, and this desc field has been extremely useful over the years.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe an ifi_desc field could be added to:
>>>>
>>>>  /usr/src/sys/net/if.h:struct if_data
>>>>
>>>> and some glue so that ifconfig(8) can read and write to it?
>>>> How long should this field be at most?
>>>
>>> This is nothing the really belongs in the kernel.
>>>
>>> Add an "interface" to set/get the information per interface (index,
>>> name, ...) and store the actual data in a file maybe.
>>> Make the format extensible to store other meta data that
>>> people may want to think along with it in the future.
>>>
>>> After all you want the information to be peristent over a reboot so
>>> you have to write it out somehow anyway.
>>
>> Yes, but some interfaces are created on-the-fly, and you never
>> know in advance which name they'll get (think of tunN, ngN etc...).
>>
>> If those interfaces are meant to be queried frequently (every few
>> minutes or so) by an snmpd, wouldn't it be more inefficient to check
>> an external file than get the meta data from the kernel?
>>
>> Some network management apps could also decide to use the description
>> field as a repository for more dynamic data; data that could be queried
>> by applications running on the hosts. Here too, would'nt it be more
>> efficient if descr. were in-kernel?
>>
>> For persistence, an /etc/rc.d script could always set the static
>> interface descriptions via ifconfig calls any way it likes, including
>> reading those definitions from a config file. Everything else will
>> probably be set remotely via the network management software, which
>> itself has its own persistence store (usually a database).
>
> Another reason you want to avoid using a file for this: what about
> appliances that run as dedicated routers and boot from a flash-based
> read-only filesystem? How would you change the interface description
> (remotely or on the console) if you can't write to a file?

So how would you make it persistent across a reboot if you cannot write
it anywhere?


Regards,
Bjoern

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Hello
Got strange problem with high system "%system load" and very slow user level
programs (apache+php+mysql) behavior
gstat shows 1.5-4% hard disk busy load but system shows about 20-30% load
while user load is max 5%.
vmstat shows from 2 to 35 process  in "b" state.
Now use 7.0-RELEASE-p5 , but the same problem was with 7.0-RELEASE.
And have no idea what to do with this.



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#top

last pid: 47964;  load averages:  1.26,  1.62,  1.75                 up
0+19:17:13  17:11:06
287 processes: 10 running, 277 sleeping
CPU states:  2.2% user,  0.0% nice, 28.3% system,  0.2% interrupt, 69.3%
idle
Mem: 1286M Active, 1729M Inact, 478M Wired, 131M Cache, 214M Buf, 302M Free
Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free
-------------------------------------------------------------------
#vmstat 5

procs      memory      page                    disks     faults      cpu
 r b w     avm    fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr  sr ad4 ad6   in   sy   cs us
sy id
 1 24 0 4357672 419648 10598   1   0   0 10648  34   0   0  558 25212 9072
6 15 80
 1 29 0 4365116 414892  3060   0   0   0  2780   0   0   0  975 12270 11501
3 29 68
 1 25 0 4392488 408596 14142   0   0   0 13903   0   0   0  526 16696 10389
6 30 64
-------------------------------------------------------------------
#ps ax | grep " [DLW] "
45585  ??  D      0:04.68 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
45975  ??  D      0:04.92 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
45981  ??  D      0:29.91 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
45995  ??  D      0:23.99 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46019  ??  D      0:26.76 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46160  ??  D      0:18.89 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46287  ??  D      0:19.88 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46303  ??  D      0:05.14 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46307  ??  D      0:29.15 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46398  ??  D      0:09.18 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46617  ??  D      0:02.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46767  ??  D      0:05.26 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46771  ??  D      0:02.07 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46803  ??  D      0:30.51 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46807  ??  D      0:01.34 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
46889  ??  D      0:01.35 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
47659  ??  D      0:01.54 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
47711  ??  D      0:00.92 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
47849  ??  D      0:01.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
47877  ??  D      0:00.40 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
-------------------------------------------------------------------
#dmesg
All buffers synced.
Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
        The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Mon Nov 10 19:49:07 MSK 2008
    root@i.x00.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL-4BSD
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (2400.10-MHz K8-class
CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6fb  Stepping = 11

Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
  Features2=0xe3bd<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM>
  AMD Features=0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
  AMD Features2=0x1<LAHF>
  Cores per package: 4
usable memory = 4283449344 (4085 MB)
avail memory  = 4134977536 (3943 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <022108 APIC2247>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Nov 10 2008 19:48:39)
acpi0: <022108 RSDT2247> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 100000, eff00000 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
p4tcc0: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu0
cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
est1: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu1
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
p4tcc1: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu1
cpu2: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
est2: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu2
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
device_attach: est2 attach returned 6
p4tcc2: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu2
cpu3: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
est3: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu3
est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
device_attach: est3 attach returned 6
p4tcc3: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu3
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0
pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
bge0: <Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev. 0x4201> mem
0xfeaf0000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
miibus0: <MII bus> on bge0
brgphy0: <BCM5750 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1f:c6:48:c8:9b
bge0: [ITHREAD]
pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.5 on pci0
pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
bge1: <Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev. 0x4201> mem
0xfebf0000-0xfebfffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci4
miibus1: <MII bus> on bge1
brgphy1: <BCM5750 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus1
brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
1000baseT-FDX, auto
bge1: Ethernet address: 00:1f:c6:48:ca:b7
bge1: [ITHREAD]
pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem
0xf8000000-0xfbffffff,0xfe9c0000-0xfe9fffff at device 4.0 on pci1
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel ICH7 UDMA100 controller> port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
ata0: [ITHREAD]
ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
ata1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1: <Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller> port
0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f mem
0xfe8ffc00-0xfe8fffff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
atapci1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1: AHCI called from vendor specific driver
atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
ata3: [ITHREAD]
ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
ata4: [ITHREAD]
ata5: <ATA channel 3> on atapci1
ata5: [ITHREAD]
pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
sio0: [FILTER]
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding disabled,
default to accept, logging limited to 5 packets/entry by default
hptrr: no controller detected.
acd0: DVDR <MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-860S/1.00> at ata0-master UDMA33
ad4: 476940MB <Seagate ST3500320NS SN05> at ata2-master SATA300
ad6: 476940MB <Seagate ST3500320NS SN05> at ata3-master SATA300
ad10: 476940MB <Seagate ST3500320NS SN05> at ata5-master SATA300
ar0: 476937MB <Intel MatrixRAID RAID1> status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a
bge0: link state changed to UP


-------------------------------------------------------------------
 cat ./KERNEL-4BSD | grep -v "^#"

cpu             HAMMER
ident           KERNEL-4BSD


options         SCHED_4BSD              # 4BSD scheduler
options         PREEMPTION              # Enable kernel thread preemption
options         INET                    # InterNETworking
options         INET6                   # IPv6 communications protocols
options         SCTP                    # Stream Control Transmission
Protocol
options         FFS                     # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options         SOFTUPDATES             # Enable FFS soft updates support
options         UFS_ACL                 # Support for access control lists
options         UFS_DIRHASH             # Improve performance on big
directories
options         UFS_GJOURNAL            # Enable gjournal-based UFS
journaling
options         MD_ROOT                 # MD is a potential root device
options         MSDOSFS                 # MSDOS Filesystem
options         CD9660                  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options         PROCFS                  # Process filesystem (requires
PSEUDOFS)
options         PSEUDOFS                # Pseudo-filesystem framework
options         GEOM_PART_GPT           # GUID Partition Tables.
options         GEOM_LABEL              # Provides labelization
options         COMPAT_43TTY            # BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP THIS!]
options         COMPAT_IA32             # Compatible with i386 binaries
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD4         # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD5         # Compatible with FreeBSD5
options         COMPAT_FREEBSD6         # Compatible with FreeBSD6
options         SCSI_DELAY=5000         # Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options         KTRACE                  # ktrace(1) support
options         SYSVSHM                 # SYSV-style shared memory
options         SYSVMSG                 # SYSV-style message queues
options         SYSVSEM                 # SYSV-style semaphores
options         _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time
extensions
options         KBD_INSTALL_CDEV        # install a CDEV entry in /dev
options         ADAPTIVE_GIANT          # Giant mutex is adaptive.
options         STOP_NMI                # Stop CPUS using NMI instead of IPI
options         AUDIT                   # Security event auditing


options         SMP                     # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel

options         IPFIREWALL
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=5
options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT

options         QUOTA

device          cpufreq

device          acpi
device          pci

device          fdc

device          ata
device          atadisk         # ATA disk drives
device          ataraid         # ATA RAID drives
device          atapicd         # ATAPI CDROM drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
options         AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
device          ahd             # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices
options         AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in debug
                                        # output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
device          amd             # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
device          hptiop          # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series
device          isp             # Qlogic family
device          mpt             # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion
device          sym             # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those
of `ncr')
device          trm             # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters

device          adv             # Advansys SCSI adapters
device          adw             # Advansys wide SCSI adapters
device          aic             # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters,
AIC-6[23]60.
device          bt              # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI adapters


device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device          ch              # SCSI media changers
device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
device          cd              # CD
device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)
device          ses             # SCSI Environmental Services (and SAF-TE)

device          amr             # AMI MegaRAID
device          arcmsr          # Areca SATA II RAID
device          ciss            # Compaq Smart RAID 5*
device          dpt             # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES for
options
device          hptmv           # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x
device          hptrr           # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23xx,
25xx
device          iir             # Intel Integrated RAID
device          ips             # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID
device          mly             # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
device          twa             # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID

device          aac             # Adaptec FSA RAID
device          aacp            # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires CAM)
device          ida             # Compaq Smart RAID
device          mfi             # LSI MegaRAID SAS
device          mlx             # Mylex DAC960 family
device          twe             # 3ware ATA RAID

device          atkbdc          # AT keyboard controller
device          atkbd           # AT keyboard
device          psm             # PS/2 mouse

device          kbdmux          # keyboard multiplexer

device          vga             # VGA video card driver

device          splash          # Splash screen and screen saver support

device          sc

device          agp             # support several AGP chipsets


device          sio             # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports
device          uart            # Generic UART driver



device          de              # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
device          em              # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit Ethernet
Card
device          ixgb            # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card
device          le              # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet
device          txp             # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
device          vx              # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')

device          miibus          # MII bus support
device          bce             # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit Ethernet
device          bfe             # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet
device          bge             # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet
device          dc              # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
device          fxp             # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
device          lge             # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet
device          msk             # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit
Ethernet
device          nfe             # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet
device          nge             # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet
device          pcn             # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence over
'le')
device          re              # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S
device          rl              # RealTek 8129/8139
device          sf              # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
device          sis             # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS
7016
device          sk              # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit
Ethernet
device          ste             # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
device          ti              # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit
Ethernet
device          tl              # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
device          tx              # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
device          vge             # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet
device          vr              # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
device          wb              # Winbond W89C840F
device          xl              # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')



device          loop            # Network loopback
device          random          # Entropy device
device          ether           # Ethernet support
device          sl              # Kernel SLIP
device          ppp             # Kernel PPP
device          tun             # Packet tunnel.
device          pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
device          md              # Memory "disks"
device          gif             # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
device          faith           # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
device          firmware        # firmware assist module

device          bpf             # Berkeley packet filter

device          uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
device          ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
device          ehci            # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
device          usb             # USB Bus (required)
device          ugen            # Generic
device          uhid            # "Human Interface Devices"
device          ukbd            # Keyboard
device          umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device          ums             # Mouse


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Igor Lyapin wrote:
> Hello
> Got strange problem with high system "%system load" and very slow user =
level
> programs (apache+php+mysql) behavior
> gstat shows 1.5-4% hard disk busy load but system shows about 20-30% lo=
ad
> while user load is max 5%.
> vmstat shows from 2 to 35 process  in "b" state.
> Now use 7.0-RELEASE-p5 , but the same problem was with 7.0-RELEASE.
> And have no idea what to do with this.

Where is the system busy? For start, try to collect information about
what are your processes doing - for example from top(1).


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I already sent # top head in my first mail
that's all non idle top process

last pid: 56920;  load averages:  2.90,  2.25,  1.72                 up
0+22:10:12  20:04:05
210 processes: 2 running, 207 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU states:  8.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.5% system,  0.3% interrupt, 58.9%
idle
Mem: 1268M Active, 1904M Inact, 479M Wired, 154M Cache, 214M Buf, 125M Free
Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free

  PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
COMMAND
55546 www              1  -4    0   198M 24912K ufs    1   0:25 29.39% httpd
55986 www              1  -4    0   198M 23228K ufs    2   0:08 21.39% httpd
56030 www              1  -4    0   199M 23400K ufs    1   0:05 11.23% httpd
56033 www              1  96    0   198M 23760K select 0   0:31  5.86% httpd
55134 www              1  -4    0   199M 29864K ufs    1   0:19  5.37% httpd
  711 mysql           26  96    0  1545M   641M ucond  1 165:53  5.08%
mysqld
56001 www              1   4    0   198M 24060K accept 0   0:31  3.76% httpd
55928 www              1  96    0   198M 24184K select 0   0:31  2.29% httpd
56070 www              1  -4    0   199M 25620K ufs    2   0:02  2.20% httpd
56020 www              1  -4    0   198M 20684K ufs    1   0:22  2.15% httpd
55970 www              1  97    0   198M 23996K select 0   0:01  1.51% httpd
55898 www              1  96    0   199M 25724K select 0   0:02  1.46% httpd
56009 www              1   4    0   199M 26564K accept 1   0:03  1.32% httpd
56058 www              1  96    0   199M 25040K select 2   0:01  1.27% httpd
56914 www              1  96    0   198M 20720K select 0   0:00  1.24% httpd
56912 www              1  96    0   198M 20688K select 0   0:00  1.15% httpd
56149 www              1  96    0   199M 25204K select 0   0:01  1.12% httpd
56918 www              1  96    0   198M 20692K select 0   0:00  1.12% httpd
55901 www              1   4    0   199M 25176K accept 0   0:02  1.07% httpd
56018 www              1   4    0   199M 25680K accept 3   0:02  0.93% httpd
56073 www              1   4    0   199M 24960K accept 1   0:02  0.93% httpd
56880 www              1   4    0   198M 20720K accept 2   0:00  0.89% httpd
56671 www              1   4    0   198M 20708K accept 0   0:01  0.79% httpd
55979 www              1   4    0   199M 24176K accept 2   0:03  0.78% httpd
55843 www              1  96    0   199M 27756K select 2   0:01  0.78% httpd
55779 www              1  96    0   199M 27420K select 0   0:03  0.73% httpd
56881 www              1   4    0   198M 22300K accept 0   0:01  0.69% httpd
55933 www              1   4    0   199M 24952K accept 0   0:02  0.68% httpd
55926 www              1  96    0   199M 26324K select 1   0:02  0.68% httpd
55969 www              1   4    0   199M 25128K accept 0   0:02  0.68% httpd
56892 www              1  96    0   199M 24084K select 3   0:01  0.67% httpd
56907 www              1  96    0   198M 20692K select 3   0:00  0.65% httpd
56874 www              1  96    0   199M 23300K select 1   0:01  0.64% httpd
56125 www              1  96    0   199M 24004K select 0   0:02  0.63% httpd

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> wrote:

> Igor Lyapin wrote:
> > Hello
> > Got strange problem with high system "%system load" and very slow user
> level
> > programs (apache+php+mysql) behavior
> > gstat shows 1.5-4% hard disk busy load but system shows about 20-30% load
> > while user load is max 5%.
> > vmstat shows from 2 to 35 process  in "b" state.
> > Now use 7.0-RELEASE-p5 , but the same problem was with 7.0-RELEASE.
> > And have no idea what to do with this.
>
> Where is the system busy? For start, try to collect information about
> what are your processes doing - for example from top(1).
>
>

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 01:58:09PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote:
> >> Some network management apps could also decide to use the description
> >> field as a repository for more dynamic data; data that could be queried
> >> by applications running on the hosts. Here too, would'nt it be more
> >> efficient if descr. were in-kernel?
> >>
> >> For persistence, an /etc/rc.d script could always set the static
> >> interface descriptions via ifconfig calls any way it likes, including
> >> reading those definitions from a config file. Everything else will
> >> probably be set remotely via the network management software, which
> >> itself has its own persistence store (usually a database).
> >
> > Another reason you want to avoid using a file for this: what about
> > appliances that run as dedicated routers and boot from a flash-based
> > read-only filesystem? How would you change the interface description
> > (remotely or on the console) if you can't write to a file?
> 
> So how would you make it persistent across a reboot if you cannot write
> it anywhere?

This would be done remotely by the network management system (NMS) The
NMS will notice that the node rebooted, and will send to its snmpd the
description of its interfaces. snmpd runs on the node, and will call
an ifconfig ioctl to store this description in kernel memory. From
then on, you could ssh to the box, and look around by calling
ifconfig(8) manually: you'all immediately know what each interface is
intended for. If you have hundreds of nodes, you'll appreciate the
convenience!

The presistence occurs at the NMS site: it is merely mirrored onto the
nodes.

So why store this on the nodes at all, as it is redundant and already
persistently available in the NMS?

Well, in practice, NMS can and do break down every now and then for
all kinds of reasons (database problems, server problems, network
problems to the NMS server, ...). But a NOC can't afford to wait for
the NMS be available again to reconfigure some important nodes on a
backbone.

Even when the NMS is down, you'll still have to manually ifconfig(8)
some interfaces on crucial backbone nodes. When the NMS is available
again, it will poll all the snmpd of its managed hosts, and will
update its own database if things changed in the mean time on the
nodes. That's the easiest way to synchronize the NMS database back
with the manual changes at the nodes that occured while the NMS was
down.

  (Sure, there's a little time window where information can be lost:
  that's just after the manual ifconfig(8) and the polling of the
  snmpd by the NMS. But, hey, if THIS happened, you could still use
  some logfile (script(1)?) of your manual changes to catch this.
  The normal workflow is to manage at the NMS and to push the data
  to the nodes, the reverse workflow is for emergencies only.)

The point I'm trying to make, is that diskless systems, or systems
with read-only filesystems should still be configurable, remotely and
manually; and the configuration data (in this case it's the
description strings of its interfaces) will have to be stored in
memory.

For something as trivial as description strings, kernel memory seems
like a good idea. If user memory is preferred and absolutely needed,
one could always write an ifconfigd daemon and store it there; but
*that* seems like overkill for such a simple change.

> Bjoern A. Zeeb              Stop bit received. Insert coin for new game.

-cpghost.

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:04:41PM +0300, Igor Lyapin wrote:
> I already sent # top head in my first mail
> that's all non idle top process
> 
> last pid: 56920;  load averages:  2.90,  2.25,  1.72                 up
> 0+22:10:12  20:04:05
> 210 processes: 2 running, 207 sleeping, 1 zombie
> CPU states:  8.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.5% system,  0.3% interrupt, 58.9%
> idle
> Mem: 1268M Active, 1904M Inact, 479M Wired, 154M Cache, 214M Buf, 125M Free
> Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free
> 
>   PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
> COMMAND
> 55546 www              1  -4    0   198M 24912K ufs    1   0:25 29.39% httpd
> 55986 www              1  -4    0   198M 23228K ufs    2   0:08 21.39% httpd
> 56030 www              1  -4    0   199M 23400K ufs    1   0:05 11.23% httpd
> 56033 www              1  96    0   198M 23760K select 0   0:31  5.86% httpd
> 55134 www              1  -4    0   199M 29864K ufs    1   0:19  5.37% httpd
>   711 mysql           26  96    0  1545M   641M ucond  1 165:53  5.08%
> mysqld
> 56001 www              1   4    0   198M 24060K accept 0   0:31  3.76% httpd
> 55928 www              1  96    0   198M 24184K select 0   0:31  2.29% httpd
> 56070 www              1  -4    0   199M 25620K ufs    2   0:02  2.20% httpd
> 56020 www              1  -4    0   198M 20684K ufs    1   0:22  2.15% httpd
> 55970 www              1  97    0   198M 23996K select 0   0:01  1.51% httpd
> 55898 www              1  96    0   199M 25724K select 0   0:02  1.46% httpd
> 56009 www              1   4    0   199M 26564K accept 1   0:03  1.32% httpd
> 56058 www              1  96    0   199M 25040K select 2   0:01  1.27% httpd
> 56914 www              1  96    0   198M 20720K select 0   0:00  1.24% httpd
> 56912 www              1  96    0   198M 20688K select 0   0:00  1.15% httpd
> 56149 www              1  96    0   199M 25204K select 0   0:01  1.12% httpd
> 56918 www              1  96    0   198M 20692K select 0   0:00  1.12% httpd
> 55901 www              1   4    0   199M 25176K accept 0   0:02  1.07% httpd
> 56018 www              1   4    0   199M 25680K accept 3   0:02  0.93% httpd
> 56073 www              1   4    0   199M 24960K accept 1   0:02  0.93% httpd
> 56880 www              1   4    0   198M 20720K accept 2   0:00  0.89% httpd
> 56671 www              1   4    0   198M 20708K accept 0   0:01  0.79% httpd
> 55979 www              1   4    0   199M 24176K accept 2   0:03  0.78% httpd
> 55843 www              1  96    0   199M 27756K select 2   0:01  0.78% httpd
> 55779 www              1  96    0   199M 27420K select 0   0:03  0.73% httpd
> 56881 www              1   4    0   198M 22300K accept 0   0:01  0.69% httpd
> 55933 www              1   4    0   199M 24952K accept 0   0:02  0.68% httpd
> 55926 www              1  96    0   199M 26324K select 1   0:02  0.68% httpd
> 55969 www              1   4    0   199M 25128K accept 0   0:02  0.68% httpd
> 56892 www              1  96    0   199M 24084K select 3   0:01  0.67% httpd
> 56907 www              1  96    0   198M 20692K select 3   0:00  0.65% httpd
> 56874 www              1  96    0   199M 23300K select 1   0:01  0.64% httpd
> 56125 www              1  96    0   199M 24004K select 0   0:02  0.63% httpd

What version of Apache is this, and exactly what options did you build
it with?

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For what's worth it, I have similar problems on a comparable system =20
(amd64/8GB,
7.1-PRERELEASE #3: Sun Nov 16 13:39:43), which I wouldn't call
heavilly threaded yet (as there is only one mysql51 running,
and courier-mta/imap, max 15 users now).
Perhaps worth a note: Bjoern's multi-IP jail patches are applied on
this system.

The setup is so that one zfs filesystem is mounted into a jail handling
only mail (and for that: just the root of the mail files), and a =20
script on
the main host rotates snapshots hourly (making a new one, and
destroying the oldest).

After about 8-24 hours of production:

- mysqld is stuck in sbwait state;
- messages start filling up with
   kernel: vm_thread_new: kstack allocation failed
- almost any attempt to fork a process fails with
   Cannot allocate memory.

No panic so far, at least since I've introduced =20
vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D"1".
Before that, I experienced several panics upon shutdown.

If I still have an open shell, I can send around some -TERMs and
-KILLs and halfway get back control; after that, if I zfs umount -a
kernel memory usage drastically drops down, and I can resume
the services. However, not for long. After about 1-2 hrs of production
it starts whining again in the messages about kstack allocation failed,
and soon thereafter it all repeats. Only rebooting gives back another
12-24hrs of operation.

What I've tracked down so far:
- zfs destroy'ing old snapshots definitively makes those failures
pop up earlier
- I've been collecting some data shortly around the memory
problems, which I post below.

Since this is a production machine (I know, I shoudn't - but hey,
you made us lick blood and now we ended up wanting more! So,
yes, I confirm, you definitively _are_ evil! ;)), I'm almost
ready to move that back to UFS.

But if it can be useful for debugging, I would be willing to set up a =20=

zabbix
agent or such to track whichever values could be useful over time for =20=

a day or two.
If on the other hand these bugs (leaks, or whatever) are likely to
be solved in the recent commit, I'll just move back to UFS until
they're ported to -STABLE.

Here follows some data about memory usage (strangely, I never
saw this even halfway reaching 1.5 GB, but it's really almost
voodoo to me so I leave the analysis up to others):

TEXT=3D`kldstat | tr a-f A-F | awk 'BEGIN {print "ibase=3D16"}; NR > 1 =20=

{print $4}' | bc | awk '{a+=3D$1}; END {print a}'`
DATA=3D`vmstat -m | sed 's/K//' | awk '{a+=3D$3}; END {print a*1024}'`
TOTAL=3D`echo $DATA $TEXT | awk '{print $1+$2}'`

TEXT=3D13102280, 12.4953 MB
DATA=3D470022144, 448.248 MB
TOTAL=3D483124424, 460.743 MB

vmstat -m | grep vnodes
kern.maxvnodes: 100000
kern.minvnodes: 25000
vfs.freevnodes: 2380
vfs.wantfreevnodes: 25000
vfs.numvnodes: 43982

As said, the box has 8 GB of RAM, the following loader.conf,
and at the time of the lockups there were about 5GB free
userland memory available.

my loader.conf:
vm.kmem_size=3D"1536M"
vm.kmem_size_max=3D"1536M"
vfs.zfs.arc_min=3D"512M"
vfs.zfs.arc_max=3D"768M"
vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=3D"1"

as for the filesystem, I only changed the recordsize and
the mountpoint, the rest is default:

[horkheimer:lopez] root# zfs get all hkpool/mail
NAME         PROPERTY       VALUE                  SOURCE
hkpool/mail  type           filesystem             -
hkpool/mail  creation       Fri Oct 31 13:28 2008  -
hkpool/mail  used           5.50G                  -
hkpool/mail  available      386G                   -
hkpool/mail  referenced     4.33G                  -
hkpool/mail  compressratio  1.05x                  -
hkpool/mail  mounted        yes                    -
hkpool/mail  quota          none                   default
hkpool/mail  reservation    none                   default
hkpool/mail  recordsize     4K                     local
hkpool/mail  mountpoint     /jails/mail/mail       local
hkpool/mail  sharenfs       off                    default
hkpool/mail  checksum       on                     default
hkpool/mail  compression    on                     local
hkpool/mail  atime          on                     default
hkpool/mail  devices        on                     default
hkpool/mail  exec           on                     default
hkpool/mail  setuid         on                     default
hkpool/mail  readonly       off                    default
hkpool/mail  jailed         off                    local
hkpool/mail  snapdir        hidden                 default
hkpool/mail  aclmode        groupmask              default
hkpool/mail  aclinherit     secure                 default
hkpool/mail  canmount       on                     default
hkpool/mail  shareiscsi     off                    default
hkpool/mail  xattr          off                    temporary
hkpool/mail  copies         1                      default

the pool is using a partition on a hardware RAID1:

[horkheimer:lopez] root# zpool status
   pool: hkpool
  state: ONLINE
  scrub: none requested
config:

         NAME        STATE     READ WRITE CKSUM
         hkpool      ONLINE       0     0     0
           da0s1f    ONLINE       0     0     0



Regards and thanx a lot for bringing on zfs,

Lorenzo



On 18.11.2008, at 10:20, Chao Shin wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:58:35 +0800=EF=BC=8CPawel Jakub Dawidek =
<pjd@freebsd.o=20
> rg> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 06:53:41PM -0800, Xin LI wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> Xin LI wrote:
>>> > Hi, Pawel,
>>> >
>>> > We can still reproduce the ZFS crash (threading+heavy I/O load) =20=

>>> on a
>>> > fresh 7.1-STABLE build, in a few minutes:
>>> >
>>> > /usr/local/bin/iozone -M -e -+u -T -t 128 -S 4096 -L 64 -r 4k -s =20=

>>> 30g -i
>>> > 0 -i 1 -i 2 -i 8 -+p 70 -C
>>> >
>>> > I have included a backtrace output from my colleague who has his =20=

>>> hands
>>> > on the test environment.  Should there is more information =20
>>> necessary
>>> > please let us know and we wish to provide help on this.
>>>
>>> Further datapoint.  The system used to run with untuned =20
>>> loader.conf, and
>>> my colleague just reported that with the following loader.conf, the
>>> problem can be triggered sooner:
>>>
>>> vm.kmem_size_max=3D838860800
>>> vm.kmem_size_scale=3D"2"
>>>
>>> The system is running FreeBSD/amd64 7.1-PRERELEASE equipped with =20
>>> 8GB of
>>> RAM with GENERIC kernel.
>>
>> With new ZFS I get:
>>
>> Memory allocation failed:: Cannot allocate memory
>>
>> Is this expected?
>>
>
> At first, Congratulations to you, thanks to your works, well done!
>
> I used this command on a FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE amd64 box with 8GB =20
> mem, isn't got output like that, but kernel panic.
> Maybe you should lower the threads and file size, for example:
>
> /usr/local/bin/iozone -M -e -+u -T -t 64 -S 4096 -L 64 -r 4k -s 2g -=20=

> i 0 -i 1 -i 2 -i 8 -+p 70 -C
>
> Actually, we had used this command to test a 8-current with zfs v12 =20=

> patch on July, there is no more panic. So we hope
> zfs v13 can MFC as soon as possible, because we really need it now.
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# apachectl -V
Server version: Apache/2.2.9 (FreeBSD)
Server built:   Oct 17 2008 13:31:54
Server's Module Magic Number: 20051115:15
Server loaded:  APR 1.3.0, APR-Util 1.3.0
Compiled using: APR 1.3.0, APR-Util 1.3.0
Architecture:   64-bit
Server MPM:     Prefork
  threaded:     no
    forked:     yes (variable process count)
Server compiled with....
 -D APACHE_MPM_DIR="server/mpm/prefork"
 -D APR_HAS_SENDFILE
 -D APR_HAS_MMAP
 -D APR_HAVE_IPV6 (IPv4-mapped addresses enabled)
 -D APR_USE_FLOCK_SERIALIZE
 -D APR_USE_PTHREAD_SERIALIZE
 -D SINGLE_LISTEN_UNSERIALIZED_ACCEPT
 -D APR_HAS_OTHER_CHILD
 -D AP_HAVE_RELIABLE_PIPED_LOGS
 -D DYNAMIC_MODULE_LIMIT=128
 -D HTTPD_ROOT="/usr/local"
 -D SUEXEC_BIN="/usr/local/bin/suexec"
 -D DEFAULT_PIDLOG="/var/run/httpd.pid"
 -D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD="/var/run/apache_runtime_status"
 -D DEFAULT_LOCKFILE="/var/run/accept.lock"
 -D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG="/var/log/httpd-error.log"
 -D AP_TYPES_CONFIG_FILE="etc/apache22/mime.types"
 -D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE="etc/apache22/httpd.conf"


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 08:04:41PM +0300, Igor Lyapin wrote:
> > I already sent # top head in my first mail
> > that's all non idle top process
> >
> > last pid: 56920;  load averages:  2.90,  2.25,  1.72                 up
> > 0+22:10:12  20:04:05
> > 210 processes: 2 running, 207 sleeping, 1 zombie
> > CPU states:  8.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.5% system,  0.3% interrupt, 58.9%
> > idle
> > Mem: 1268M Active, 1904M Inact, 479M Wired, 154M Cache, 214M Buf, 125M
> Free
> > Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free
> >
> >   PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
> > COMMAND
> > 55546 www              1  -4    0   198M 24912K ufs    1   0:25 29.39%
> httpd
> > 55986 www              1  -4    0   198M 23228K ufs    2   0:08 21.39%
> httpd
> > 56030 www              1  -4    0   199M 23400K ufs    1   0:05 11.23%
> httpd
> > 56033 www              1  96    0   198M 23760K select 0   0:31  5.86%
> httpd
> > 55134 www              1  -4    0   199M 29864K ufs    1   0:19  5.37%
> httpd
> >   711 mysql           26  96    0  1545M   641M ucond  1 165:53  5.08%
> > mysqld
> > 56001 www              1   4    0   198M 24060K accept 0   0:31  3.76%
> httpd
> > 55928 www              1  96    0   198M 24184K select 0   0:31  2.29%
> httpd
> > 56070 www              1  -4    0   199M 25620K ufs    2   0:02  2.20%
> httpd
> > 56020 www              1  -4    0   198M 20684K ufs    1   0:22  2.15%
> httpd
> > 55970 www              1  97    0   198M 23996K select 0   0:01  1.51%
> httpd
> > 55898 www              1  96    0   199M 25724K select 0   0:02  1.46%
> httpd
> > 56009 www              1   4    0   199M 26564K accept 1   0:03  1.32%
> httpd
> > 56058 www              1  96    0   199M 25040K select 2   0:01  1.27%
> httpd
> > 56914 www              1  96    0   198M 20720K select 0   0:00  1.24%
> httpd
> > 56912 www              1  96    0   198M 20688K select 0   0:00  1.15%
> httpd
> > 56149 www              1  96    0   199M 25204K select 0   0:01  1.12%
> httpd
> > 56918 www              1  96    0   198M 20692K select 0   0:00  1.12%
> httpd
> > 55901 www              1   4    0   199M 25176K accept 0   0:02  1.07%
> httpd
> > 56018 www              1   4    0   199M 25680K accept 3   0:02  0.93%
> httpd
> > 56073 www              1   4    0   199M 24960K accept 1   0:02  0.93%
> httpd
> > 56880 www              1   4    0   198M 20720K accept 2   0:00  0.89%
> httpd
> > 56671 www              1   4    0   198M 20708K accept 0   0:01  0.79%
> httpd
> > 55979 www              1   4    0   199M 24176K accept 2   0:03  0.78%
> httpd
> > 55843 www              1  96    0   199M 27756K select 2   0:01  0.78%
> httpd
> > 55779 www              1  96    0   199M 27420K select 0   0:03  0.73%
> httpd
> > 56881 www              1   4    0   198M 22300K accept 0   0:01  0.69%
> httpd
> > 55933 www              1   4    0   199M 24952K accept 0   0:02  0.68%
> httpd
> > 55926 www              1  96    0   199M 26324K select 1   0:02  0.68%
> httpd
> > 55969 www              1   4    0   199M 25128K accept 0   0:02  0.68%
> httpd
> > 56892 www              1  96    0   199M 24084K select 3   0:01  0.67%
> httpd
> > 56907 www              1  96    0   198M 20692K select 3   0:00  0.65%
> httpd
> > 56874 www              1  96    0   199M 23300K select 1   0:01  0.64%
> httpd
> > 56125 www              1  96    0   199M 24004K select 0   0:02  0.63%
> httpd
>
> What version of Apache is this, and exactly what options did you build
> it with?
>
> --
> | Jeremy Chadwick                                jdc at parodius.com |
> | Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
> | UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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Hello,

I have a kind big tcpdump file, which has data from the last week. I
want to dump information based on date. Can I do it without generating
a full output and later parse the headers?

Say, I want to filter by date in the <expression> filter and not with

tcpdump -r dumpfile | awk '{<some-black-magic-here}'

Because sometimes I want o search the full packet content (-vvv, -XX,
-T, ...) by date, and as its a huge file, dumpling everthing and
parsing it later on run-time wound consume too much memory (its a
couple of GBs file).

Thank you all, but I could not find a "date" keyword for filtering expression.

However, counting by packets sequence would also fit my needs because
the need is to, say, "analyse until a certain point" and later
"continue analysing from where I stopped", so, lets say

tcpdump -r dumpfile -c 10000

Would allow me to read the first 10000 packets from the dumpfile.
Later I would need to keep doing my job from packet 10001 to 20000.
The "date" question is because I can check the precise epoch timestamp
of the last packet I have read and later, ask tcpdump to print -c
<count> number of packets starting from the epoch-formatted date I
have paused my work later.

Sometimes I will also need this for pflog files, so, I would
appreciate any tips to do this with tcpdump custom files or pflog
generated files if there is anything would fit for one situation but
not for another.

Thank you all in advance.



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[Cross-post to -questions elided, since I saw the message on -stable,
and I'd like to discourage gratuitous cross-posting.  dhw]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:30:39PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> I have a kind big tcpdump file, which has data from the last week. I
> want to dump information based on date. Can I do it without generating
> a full output and later parse the headers?

See the port net/tcpslice.

Here's an excerpt from its man page:

DESCRIPTION
       Tcpslice  is  a  program  for extracting portions of packet-trace fi=
les
       generated using tcpdump(l)'s -w flag.  It can also  be  used  to  me=
rge
       together several such files, as discussed below.
=2E..
       There  are  a number of ways to specify times.  The first is using U=
nix
       timestamps of the form sssssssss.uuuuuu (this is the  format  specif=
ied
       by  tcpdump's -tt flag).  For example, 654321098.7654 specifies 38 s=
ec-
       onds and 765,400 microseconds after 8:51PM PDT, Sept. 25, 1990.

> ...

Peace,
david
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Has anyone see the 'df' command just hang after an upgrade?
 From another terminal, I saw df in the 'D' state when running ps.

I tried 'df &' in my new terminal, and that too just hung out in the 
background.
typing 'reboot' fixed the problem.  =)

This box had been up for a while, no problems.  The only thing I changed 
was a 7.0 to 7.1 upgrade.
(Haven't rebuilt all the ports to match the new OS, yet....)

 > uname -v
FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Nov 13 19:14:42 PST 2008     
root@example.monkeybrains.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONKEY
  (MONKEY is pretty close to generic, just some ethernet and scsi stuff 
left out)

 > kldstat
Id Refs Address    Size     Name
 1    7 0xc0400000 4d39fc   kernel
 2    1 0xc08d4000 164e8    geom_mirror.ko
 3    1 0xc3e93000 9000     if_bridge.ko
 4    1 0xc3e9c000 6000     bridgestp.ko
 5    1 0xc3f78000 5000     if_tap.ko
 6    1 0xc3fdd000 3000     daemon_saver.ko

 > df -h
Filesystem            Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad4s1a           248M    213M     14M    94%    /
devfs                 1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
procfs                4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /proc
/dev/mirror/gm0s1d    989M    200M    710M    22%    /var
/dev/mirror/gm0s1e    496M    1.7M    454M     0%    /tmp
/dev/ad4s1f           2.9G    1.4G    1.3G    52%    /usr
/dev/mirror/gm0s1g    268G    105G    142G    42%    /data
/dev/ad4s1h           180G    391M    166G     0%    /data2
devfs                 1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /var/named/dev



- Rudy

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Are there 'broken' (lost connection without being umounted) NFS mounts
by any chance ?
That would cause df to wait for eternity (or till the host comes back up).

-- Jille

Rudy schreef:
> 
> Has anyone see the 'df' command just hang after an upgrade?
> From another terminal, I saw df in the 'D' state when running ps.
> 
> I tried 'df &' in my new terminal, and that too just hung out in the
> background.
> typing 'reboot' fixed the problem.  =)
> 
> This box had been up for a while, no problems.  The only thing I changed
> was a 7.0 to 7.1 upgrade.
> (Haven't rebuilt all the ports to match the new OS, yet....)
> 
>> uname -v
> FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Nov 13 19:14:42 PST 2008    
> root@example.monkeybrains.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONKEY
>  (MONKEY is pretty close to generic, just some ethernet and scsi stuff
> left out)
> 
>> kldstat
> Id Refs Address    Size     Name
> 1    7 0xc0400000 4d39fc   kernel
> 2    1 0xc08d4000 164e8    geom_mirror.ko
> 3    1 0xc3e93000 9000     if_bridge.ko
> 4    1 0xc3e9c000 6000     bridgestp.ko
> 5    1 0xc3f78000 5000     if_tap.ko
> 6    1 0xc3fdd000 3000     daemon_saver.ko
> 
>> df -h
> Filesystem            Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad4s1a           248M    213M     14M    94%    /
> devfs                 1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
> procfs                4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /proc
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1d    989M    200M    710M    22%    /var
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1e    496M    1.7M    454M     0%    /tmp
> /dev/ad4s1f           2.9G    1.4G    1.3G    52%    /usr
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1g    268G    105G    142G    42%    /data
> /dev/ad4s1h           180G    391M    166G     0%    /data2
> devfs                 1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /var/named/dev
> 
> 
> 
> - Rudy
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Jille Timmermans wrote:
> Are there 'broken' (lost connection without being umounted) NFS mounts
> by any chance ?
> That would cause df to wait for eternity (or till the host comes back up).
>   

Doh!  I have the FreeBSD source on one  server and mount over NFS for 
builds.  I thought I'd already rebooted into the new kernel thus 
unmounting /usr/src, but I must have remounted (maybe when I ran 
mergemaster (or something!))!!!

Thanks,

Rudy

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Is there anything NFS related to the box? If yes, then it could be
because of some hung mounts.

Thanks
Subhro

On 11/19/08, Rudy <crapsh@monkeybrains.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone see the 'df' command just hang after an upgrade?
>  From another terminal, I saw df in the 'D' state when running ps.
>
> I tried 'df &' in my new terminal, and that too just hung out in the
> background.
> typing 'reboot' fixed the problem.  =)
>
> This box had been up for a while, no problems.  The only thing I changed
> was a 7.0 to 7.1 upgrade.
> (Haven't rebuilt all the ports to match the new OS, yet....)
>
>  > uname -v
> FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Thu Nov 13 19:14:42 PST 2008
> root@example.monkeybrains.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONKEY
>   (MONKEY is pretty close to generic, just some ethernet and scsi stuff
> left out)
>
>  > kldstat
> Id Refs Address    Size     Name
>  1    7 0xc0400000 4d39fc   kernel
>  2    1 0xc08d4000 164e8    geom_mirror.ko
>  3    1 0xc3e93000 9000     if_bridge.ko
>  4    1 0xc3e9c000 6000     bridgestp.ko
>  5    1 0xc3f78000 5000     if_tap.ko
>  6    1 0xc3fdd000 3000     daemon_saver.ko
>
>  > df -h
> Filesystem            Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad4s1a           248M    213M     14M    94%    /
> devfs                 1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
> procfs                4.0K    4.0K      0B   100%    /proc
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1d    989M    200M    710M    22%    /var
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1e    496M    1.7M    454M     0%    /tmp
> /dev/ad4s1f           2.9G    1.4G    1.3G    52%    /usr
> /dev/mirror/gm0s1g    268G    105G    142G    42%    /data
> /dev/ad4s1h           180G    391M    166G     0%    /data2
> devfs                 1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /var/named/dev
>
>
>
> - Rudy
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Hi,

I have a weird situation here on 7-PRERELEASE since a longer time. When
I enable IPv6, syslogd tries to start before the network is being
initialised and I get the following output:


Mounting local file systems:.
hw.snd.default_unit: 0 -> 1
Setting hostname: zelda.local.
Creating and/or trimming log files:.
Starting syslogd.
Nov 18 16:01:27  syslogd: bind: Can't assign requested address
Nov 18 16:01:27  syslogd: bind: Can't assign requested address
syslogd: child pid 226 exited with return code 1
Checking for core dump on /dev/ad0s1b.eli...
savecore: error reading last dump header at offset 8589930496
in /dev/ad0s1b.eli : Invalid argument
savecore: no dumps found
Initial amd64 initialization:.
Additional ABI support: linux.
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: no link ....re0: link state changed to UP
 got link
re0: link state changed to DOWN
DHCPREQUEST on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
re0: link state changed to UP
DHCPACK from 192.168.0.1
re0: link state changed to DOWN
re0: link state changed to UP
bound to 192.168.0.12 -- renewal in 180000 seconds.
lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
        inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
        inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
re0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu
1500
options=389b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_UCAST ,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC>
        ether xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        inet6 xxxxxxxxxxxxx%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
        inet 192.168.0.12 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255
        media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
        status: active
Starting pflog.
pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled
Enabling pf.

[...]


At the moment, I'm using a workaround and start syslogd once again
in /etc/rc.local.


Here my rc.conf:
pf_enable="YES"
pflog_enable="YES"
pflog_logfile="/var/log/pflog"

hostname="xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
defaultrouter="192.168.0.1"
ipv6_enable="YES"
ipv6_defaultrouter="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
ipv6_ifconfig_re0="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
nfs_client_enable="YES"
ifconfig_re0="DHCP"
amd_enable="YES"
amd_flags="-d xxxxxxxxxx -a /.amd_mnt -l syslog /net /etc/amd.map"

keymap="german.iso"
keyrate="fast"
font8x14="iso15-8x14"
font8x16="iso15-8x16"
font8x8="iso15-8x8"

gdm_enable="YES"
hald_enable="YES"
cupsd_enable="YES"
dbus_enable="YES"
linux_enable="YES"
moused_ums0_enable="YES"
ntpd_enable="YES"
ntpd_config="/etc/ntp.conf"
polkitd_enable="YES"
smartd_enable="YES"
sshd_enable="YES"
hcsecd_enable="YES"
sdpd_enable="YES"

geli_devices="ad0s1g"
dumpdev="/dev/ad0s1b.eli"

bsdstats_enable="YES"


Is it a bug in the rc start script sequence or wrong configuration?

--
Martin

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Hello All,

I have my client system running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 with 4 GB of RAM. This morning i have the following errors popping up on the console log - 

postfix/qmgr[94057]: fatal: socket: Too many open files

Googling for this error, I found this is someway related to the kernel parameter kern.maxflies and increasing this value can have errors go away. The present value of this parameter is 24000. I also found this also depends of the RAM we have on the system.

what would the appropriate value for kern.maxfiles for a system having 2GB RAM, a system having 4 GB and a system having 16GB of RAM. Please help

-Ram



      

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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Ramesh Ayyagari
<rameshayyagari@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have my client system running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 with 4 GB of RAM. This morning i have the following errors popping up on the console log -
>
> postfix/qmgr[94057]: fatal: socket: Too many open files
>
> Googling for this error, I found this is someway related to the kernel parameter kern.maxflies and increasing this value can have errors go away. The present value of this parameter is 24000. I also found this also depends of the RAM we have on the system.
>
> what would the appropriate value for kern.maxfiles for a system having 2GB RAM, a system having 4 GB and a system having 16GB of RAM. Please help
>

The Xorg meta-package recommends 'kern.maxfiles="25000"' for a desktop
system.  This is a situation where it really depends on what you're
using your system for.

HTH

-- 
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show you how it's done."
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Hi,

Few hours ago I have updated my machine to latest RELENG_7.
daemon% uname -an
FreeBSD daemon.micom.mng.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #6: 
Tue Nov 18 02:05:57 ULAT 2008 
tsgan@daemon.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GDAEMON  i386
daemon%

When I try to issue command shutdown -p now, system paniced.
...
(kgdb) where
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
#1  0xc062ba67 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
#2  0xc062bd72 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
#3  0xc06ab8b3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2202
#4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e59b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
#5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2939
#6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
#7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
#8  0xc08171f5 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
#9  0xc07fd710 in Xint0x80_syscall () at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
#10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
(kgdb)
...

Is this known issue?

thanks,

Ganbold

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I don't know whether or not this has been fixed, but I found that I had to
recompile tcpslice and/or tcpdump to deal with files larger than 4 gig (or
maybe 2 gig).  I suppose it's a better situation than wireshark.  After a
few million packets, it falls over because it makes the widgets in the
scroller window for every packet in the file that's visible with the current
filter.  The memory from these widgets gets big fast.  On a 64 bit machine
... you can analyze a larger file --- and suck down a lot of swap... but on
a 32 bit machine, you run out of address space quickly.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org>wrote:

> [Cross-post to -questions elided, since I saw the message on -stable,
> and I'd like to discourage gratuitous cross-posting.  dhw]
>
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:30:39PM -0200, Eduardo Meyer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a kind big tcpdump file, which has data from the last week. I
> > want to dump information based on date. Can I do it without generating
> > a full output and later parse the headers?
>
> See the port net/tcpslice.
>
> Here's an excerpt from its man page:
>
> DESCRIPTION
>       Tcpslice  is  a  program  for extracting portions of packet-trace
> files
>       generated using tcpdump(l)'s -w flag.  It can also  be  used  to
>  merge
>       together several such files, as discussed below.
> ...
>       There  are  a number of ways to specify times.  The first is using
> Unix
>       timestamps of the form sssssssss.uuuuuu (this is the  format
>  specified
>       by  tcpdump's -tt flag).  For example, 654321098.7654 specifies 38
> sec-
>       onds and 765,400 microseconds after 8:51PM PDT, Sept. 25, 1990.
>
> > ...
>
> Peace,
> david
> --
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> Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil.
>
> See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg<http://www.catwhisker.org/%7Edavid/publickey.gpg>for my public key.
>

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Hi,

I've made a mistake in the subject line. Sorry.

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I have recently been pointed to the u3g driver and gave it a try,
because UBSA works very unreliable for me.

- In combination with PF-NAT I get kernel panics under high load.
- I have to hack some buffer sizes in the driver to get the full
  3G speed.
- Often my USB-3G stick is not detected, sometimes I spent several
  minutes plugging it in and out until it is detected.
- It doesn't let me use the card reader in the stick.

The u3g driver has NONE of these problems. Everything just works
for me.

So obviously I would like to have u3g in stable and chose for
myself or even take support for devices out of ubsa that work
better with u3g.

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Dag-Erling Smørgrav pisze:
> Andrew Snow <andrew@modulus.org> writes:
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>> [...] I would wait until it has been considered stable and moved into
>> the 7-STABLE tree before deploying a production server.
>>     
>
> ZFS has been in 7 for over a year.
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> DES
>   
Yes, it's in STABLE, however zfs module says:

    This module (opensolaris) contains code covered by the
    Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL)
    see http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/
    *WARNING: ZFS is considered to be an experimental feature in FreeBSD.*

So ZFS in 7.X should not be considered as STABLE for now.

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I have only one CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
(2400.10-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin =3D "GenuineIntel"  Id =3D 0x6fb  Stepping =3D 11
  Features=3D0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,

This is from systat -v  and this behavior is not the same as yours, CSW
during problems could be from normal 8k -11k CSW some time rise to 57k for =
a
1-2 sec but system load ~30% in system and 10-20 process in block state
process.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
------------------------
    3 users    Load  1.45  1.95  1.77                  Nov 19 11:58

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                       VN PAGER   SWAP
PAGER
        Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free           in   out     in
out
Act 1363876   17076  4175592    31032  273076  count
All 1412996   20628  8683036    74448          pages
Proc:                                                            Interrupts
  r   p   d   s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt     44 cow    9096 total
  1      19 251       14k  13k  29k 1100  272  12k  12707 zfod        ata0
irq14
                                                          ozfod   210
atapci1 19
29.5%Sys   0.6%Intr  5.1%User  0.0%Nice 64.8%Idle        %ozfod  2012 cpu0:
time
|    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |       daefr   890 bge0
256
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D>>>                           =
         353 prcfr  2012 cpu1:
time
                                       162 dtbuf    12807 totfr  1986 cpu3:
time
Namei     Name-cache   Dir-cache    100000 desvn          react  1986 cpu2:
time
   Calls    hits   %    hits   %     80638 numvn          pdwak
   99564   99060  99     308   0     25001 frevn          pdpgs
                                                          intrn
Disks   ad4   ad6  ad10   ar0                      505820 wire
KB/t   0.00  0.00  0.00 12.46                     1359456 act
tps       0     0     0    53                     1880952 inact
MB/s   0.00  0.00  0.00  0.65                      115104 cache
%busy     0     0     0     7                      157972 free

---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Tomas Randa <randa@blueboard.cz> wrote:

> I think that ULE from 7.0 is not good enough...
> My problem was at 2x quad xeon (total 8 CPUS), where sometime system load
> increased to number 100-150 (normal was 1-4). When I look at systat -v,
> there was many CSW (about 300k, instead od 10k at normal).
> I tried many things -
>
> move from i386 to amd64 - same behaviour
> upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1BETA1 - better behaviour, but another problems..
> when I switched from ULE to 4BSD, situation get worse.
> So I tried remove one CPU and it helps!...
> My opinion is, that FeeBSD scheduler in some situations (apache/php) do
> some cycle, which rapidly increase CSW.
>
> Try to look at CSW, when your problem occurs and write me a message
>
> Regards
>
> Tom=E1=9A Randa, Hosting Blueboard.cz
> ----------------------------------
> Jabber: ares@jabber.cz
> ICQ: 100956181
> Tel: +420 245 008 678
> GSM: +420 775 086 575
>
>
>
>
>
> Igor Lyapin wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Tomas Randa - Hosting Blueboard CZ <
>> tomas@blueboard.cz> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I have similar problem... what HW are you using? Some quad core xeon? O=
ne
>>> or two CPUS?
>>> I think it is scheduler based problem. Try to look at systat -v and wat=
ch
>>> CSW value at normal state and then if problem occurs..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  Context switches do not rise and in problem and normal state is about
>> 8000-
>> 12000
>>
>>
>>
>>> Are you using 4BSD, aren`t you? Did you try ULE?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I try ULE and 4BSD problem steel exists.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Send dmesg...
>>>
>>>
>>
>>  #dmesg
>> All buffers synced.
>> Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project.
>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>>       The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>> FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
>> FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Mon Nov 10 19:49:07 MSK 2008
>>   root@i.x00.net:/usr/obj/usr/
>>
>>
>>> src/sys/KERNEL-4BSD
>>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
>>> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (2400.10-MHz
>>> K8-class
>>> CPU)
>>>  Origin =3D "GenuineIntel"  Id =3D 0x6fb  Stepping =3D 11
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Features=3D0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,=
PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
>>>  Features2=3D0xe3bd<SSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,P=
DCM>
>>>  AMD Features=3D0x20100800<SYSCALL,NX,LM>
>>>  AMD Features2=3D0x1<LAHF>
>>>  Cores per package: 4
>>> usable memory =3D 4283449344 (4085 MB)
>>> avail memory  =3D 4134977536 (3943 MB)
>>> ACPI APIC Table: <022108 APIC2247>
>>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
>>>  cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
>>>  cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
>>>  cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
>>>  cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
>>> ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
>>> kbd1 at kbdmux0
>>> hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Nov 10 2008 19:48:39)
>>> acpi0: <022108 RSDT2247> on motherboard
>>> acpi0: [ITHREAD]
>>> acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
>>> acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed
>>> acpi0: reservation of 100000, eff00000 (3) failed
>>> Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
>>> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
>>> cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
>>> est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
>>> est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
>>> est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
>>> device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
>>> p4tcc0: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu0
>>> cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
>>> est1: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu1
>>> est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
>>> est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
>>> device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
>>> p4tcc1: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu1
>>> cpu2: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
>>> est2: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu2
>>> est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
>>> est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
>>> device_attach: est2 attach returned 6
>>> p4tcc2: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu2
>>> cpu3: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
>>> est3: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu3
>>> est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
>>> est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 928092806000928
>>> device_attach: est3 attach returned 6
>>> p4tcc3: <CPU Frequency Thermal Control> on cpu3
>>> pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
>>> pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
>>> pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 1.0 on pci0
>>> pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
>>> pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.0 on pci0
>>> pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
>>> pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 16 at device 28.4 on pci0
>>> pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
>>> bge0: <Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev. 0x4201=
>
>>> mem
>>> 0xfeaf0000-0xfeafffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci3
>>> miibus0: <MII bus> on bge0
>>> brgphy0: <BCM5750 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus0
>>> brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
>>> 1000baseT-FDX, auto
>>> bge0: Ethernet address: 00:1f:c6:48:c8:9b
>>> bge0: [ITHREAD]
>>> pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 17 at device 28.5 on pci0
>>> pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
>>> bge1: <Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Controller, ASIC rev. 0x4201=
>
>>> mem
>>> 0xfebf0000-0xfebfffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci4
>>> miibus1: <MII bus> on bge1
>>> brgphy1: <BCM5750 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> PHY 1 on miibus1
>>> brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT,
>>> 1000baseT-FDX, auto
>>> bge1: Ethernet address: 00:1f:c6:48:ca:b7
>>> bge1: [ITHREAD]
>>> pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
>>> pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
>>> vgapci0: <VGA-compatible display> port 0xec00-0xec7f mem
>>> 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff,0xfe9c0000-0xfe9fffff at device 4.0 on pci1
>>> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
>>> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
>>> atapci0: <Intel ICH7 UDMA100 controller> port
>>> 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci=
0
>>> ata0: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
>>> ata0: [ITHREAD]
>>> ata1: <ATA channel 1> on atapci0
>>> ata1: [ITHREAD]
>>> atapci1: <Intel ICH7 SATA300 controller> port
>>> 0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f m=
em
>>> 0xfe8ffc00-0xfe8fffff irq 19 at device 31.2 on pci0
>>> atapci1: [ITHREAD]
>>> atapci1: AHCI called from vendor specific driver
>>> atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports detected
>>> ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci1
>>> ata2: [ITHREAD]
>>> ata3: <ATA channel 1> on atapci1
>>> ata3: [ITHREAD]
>>> ata4: <ATA channel 2> on atapci1
>>> ata4: [ITHREAD]
>>> ata5: <ATA channel 3> on atapci1
>>> ata5: [ITHREAD]
>>> pci0: <serial bus, SMBus> at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
>>> acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
>>> orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
>>> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
>>> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
>>> kbd0 at atkbd0
>>> atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>>> atkbd0: [ITHREAD]
>>> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
>>> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=3D0x300>
>>> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>>> sio0: port may not be enabled
>>> sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>>> sio0: port may not be enabled
>>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
>>> sio0: type 8250 or not responding
>>> sio0: [FILTER]
>>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>>> sio1: port may not be enabled
>>> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on is=
a0
>>> Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
>>> ipfw2 (+ipv6) initialized, divert loadable, rule-based forwarding
>>> disabled,
>>> default to accept, logging limited to 5 packets/entry by default
>>> hptrr: no controller detected.
>>> acd0: DVDR <MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-860S/1.00> at ata0-master UDMA33
>>> ad4: 476940MB <Seagate ST3500320NS SN05> at ata2-master SATA300
>>> ad6: 476940MB <Seagate ST3500320NS SN05> at ata3-master SATA300
>>> ad10: 476940MB <Seagate ST3500320NS SN05> at ata5-master SATA300
>>> ar0: 476937MB <Intel MatrixRAID RAID1> status: READY
>>> ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master
>>> ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master
>>> SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
>>> SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
>>> SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
>>> Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a
>>> bge0: link state changed to UP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tomas Randa
>>>
>>>
>>> Igor Lyapin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>> Got strange problem with high system "%system load" and very slow user
>>>> level
>>>> programs (apache+php+mysql) behavior
>>>> gstat shows 1.5-4% hard disk busy load but system shows about 20-30%
>>>> load
>>>> while user load is max 5%.
>>>> vmstat shows from 2 to 35 process  in "b" state.
>>>> Now use 7.0-RELEASE-p5 , but the same problem was with 7.0-RELEASE.
>>>> And have no idea what to do with this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> #uname -a
>>>> FreeBSD i.x00.net 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Mon Nov 10
>>>> 19:49:07 MSK 2008     root@i.x00.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERNEL-4BSD
>>>>  amd64
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> #top
>>>>
>>>> last pid: 47964;  load averages:  1.26,  1.62,  1.75                 u=
p
>>>> 0+19:17:13  17:11:06
>>>> 287 processes: 10 running, 277 sleeping
>>>> CPU states:  2.2% user,  0.0% nice, 28.3% system,  0.2% interrupt, 69.=
3%
>>>> idle
>>>> Mem: 1286M Active, 1729M Inact, 478M Wired, 131M Cache, 214M Buf, 302M
>>>> Free
>>>> Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> #vmstat 5
>>>>
>>>> procs      memory      page                    disks     faults      c=
pu
>>>>  r b w     avm    fre   flt  re  pi  po    fr  sr ad4 ad6   in   sy   =
cs
>>>> us
>>>> sy id
>>>>  1 24 0 4357672 419648 10598   1   0   0 10648  34   0   0  558 25212
>>>> 9072
>>>> 6 15 80
>>>>  1 29 0 4365116 414892  3060   0   0   0  2780   0   0   0  975 12270
>>>> 11501
>>>> 3 29 68
>>>>  1 25 0 4392488 408596 14142   0   0   0 13903   0   0   0  526 16696
>>>> 10389
>>>> 6 30 64
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> #ps ax | grep " [DLW] "
>>>> 45585  ??  D      0:04.68 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 45975  ??  D      0:04.92 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 45981  ??  D      0:29.91 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 45995  ??  D      0:23.99 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46019  ??  D      0:26.76 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46160  ??  D      0:18.89 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46287  ??  D      0:19.88 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46303  ??  D      0:05.14 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46307  ??  D      0:29.15 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46398  ??  D      0:09.18 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46617  ??  D      0:02.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46767  ??  D      0:05.26 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46771  ??  D      0:02.07 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46803  ??  D      0:30.51 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46807  ??  D      0:01.34 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 46889  ??  D      0:01.35 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 47659  ??  D      0:01.54 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 47711  ??  D      0:00.92 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 47849  ??  D      0:01.00 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> 47877  ??  D      0:00.40 /usr/local/sbin/httpd
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>  cat ./KERNEL-4BSD | grep -v "^#"
>>>>
>>>> cpu             HAMMER
>>>> ident           KERNEL-4BSD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> options         SCHED_4BSD              # 4BSD scheduler
>>>> options         PREEMPTION              # Enable kernel thread
>>>> preemption
>>>> options         INET                    # InterNETworking
>>>> options         INET6                   # IPv6 communications protocol=
s
>>>> options         SCTP                    # Stream Control Transmission
>>>> Protocol
>>>> options         FFS                     # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
>>>> options         SOFTUPDATES             # Enable FFS soft updates
>>>> support
>>>> options         UFS_ACL                 # Support for access control
>>>> lists
>>>> options         UFS_DIRHASH             # Improve performance on big
>>>> directories
>>>> options         UFS_GJOURNAL            # Enable gjournal-based UFS
>>>> journaling
>>>> options         MD_ROOT                 # MD is a potential root devic=
e
>>>> options         MSDOSFS                 # MSDOS Filesystem
>>>> options         CD9660                  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
>>>> options         PROCFS                  # Process filesystem (requires
>>>> PSEUDOFS)
>>>> options         PSEUDOFS                # Pseudo-filesystem framework
>>>> options         GEOM_PART_GPT           # GUID Partition Tables.
>>>> options         GEOM_LABEL              # Provides labelization
>>>> options         COMPAT_43TTY            # BSD 4.3 TTY compat [KEEP
>>>> THIS!]
>>>> options         COMPAT_IA32             # Compatible with i386 binarie=
s
>>>> options         COMPAT_FREEBSD4         # Compatible with FreeBSD4
>>>> options         COMPAT_FREEBSD5         # Compatible with FreeBSD5
>>>> options         COMPAT_FREEBSD6         # Compatible with FreeBSD6
>>>> options         SCSI_DELAY=3D5000         # Delay (in ms) before probi=
ng
>>>> SCSI
>>>> options         KTRACE                  # ktrace(1) support
>>>> options         SYSVSHM                 # SYSV-style shared memory
>>>> options         SYSVMSG                 # SYSV-style message queues
>>>> options         SYSVSEM                 # SYSV-style semaphores
>>>> options         _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time
>>>> extensions
>>>> options         KBD_INSTALL_CDEV        # install a CDEV entry in /dev
>>>> options         ADAPTIVE_GIANT          # Giant mutex is adaptive.
>>>> options         STOP_NMI                # Stop CPUS using NMI instead =
of
>>>> IPI
>>>> options         AUDIT                   # Security event auditing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> options         SMP                     # Symmetric MultiProcessor
>>>> Kernel
>>>>
>>>> options         IPFIREWALL
>>>> options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE
>>>> options         IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=3D5
>>>> options         IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT
>>>>
>>>> options         QUOTA
>>>>
>>>> device          cpufreq
>>>>
>>>> device          acpi
>>>> device          pci
>>>>
>>>> device          fdc
>>>>
>>>> device          ata
>>>> device          atadisk         # ATA disk drives
>>>> device          ataraid         # ATA RAID drives
>>>> device          atapicd         # ATAPI CDROM drives
>>>> options         ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering
>>>>
>>>> device          ahc             # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
>>>> options         AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in
>>>> debug
>>>>                                       # output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
>>>> device          ahd             # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx
>>>> devices
>>>> options         AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT    # Print register bitfields in
>>>> debug
>>>>                                       # output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
>>>> device          amd             # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
>>>> device          hptiop          # Highpoint RocketRaid 3xxx series
>>>> device          isp             # Qlogic family
>>>> device          mpt             # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion
>>>> device          sym             # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets +
>>>> those
>>>> of `ncr')
>>>> device          trm             # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters
>>>>
>>>> device          adv             # Advansys SCSI adapters
>>>> device          adw             # Advansys wide SCSI adapters
>>>> device          aic             # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters,
>>>> AIC-6[23]60.
>>>> device          bt              # Buslogic/Mylex MultiMaster SCSI
>>>> adapters
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> device          scbus           # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
>>>> device          ch              # SCSI media changers
>>>> device          da              # Direct Access (disks)
>>>> device          sa              # Sequential Access (tape etc)
>>>> device          cd              # CD
>>>> device          pass            # Passthrough device (direct SCSI
>>>> access)
>>>> device          ses             # SCSI Environmental Services (and
>>>> SAF-TE)
>>>>
>>>> device          amr             # AMI MegaRAID
>>>> device          arcmsr          # Areca SATA II RAID
>>>> device          ciss            # Compaq Smart RAID 5*
>>>> device          dpt             # DPT Smartcache III, IV - See NOTES f=
or
>>>> options
>>>> device          hptmv           # Highpoint RocketRAID 182x
>>>> device          hptrr           # Highpoint RocketRAID 17xx, 22xx, 23x=
x,
>>>> 25xx
>>>> device          iir             # Intel Integrated RAID
>>>> device          ips             # IBM (Adaptec) ServeRAID
>>>> device          mly             # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID
>>>> device          twa             # 3ware 9000 series PATA/SATA RAID
>>>>
>>>> device          aac             # Adaptec FSA RAID
>>>> device          aacp            # SCSI passthrough for aac (requires
>>>> CAM)
>>>> device          ida             # Compaq Smart RAID
>>>> device          mfi             # LSI MegaRAID SAS
>>>> device          mlx             # Mylex DAC960 family
>>>> device          twe             # 3ware ATA RAID
>>>>
>>>> device          atkbdc          # AT keyboard controller
>>>> device          atkbd           # AT keyboard
>>>> device          psm             # PS/2 mouse
>>>>
>>>> device          kbdmux          # keyboard multiplexer
>>>>
>>>> device          vga             # VGA video card driver
>>>>
>>>> device          splash          # Splash screen and screen saver suppo=
rt
>>>>
>>>> device          sc
>>>>
>>>> device          agp             # support several AGP chipsets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> device          sio             # 8250, 16[45]50 based serial ports
>>>> device          uart            # Generic UART driver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> device          de              # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
>>>> device          em              # Intel PRO/1000 adapter Gigabit
>>>> Ethernet
>>>> Card
>>>> device          ixgb            # Intel PRO/10GbE Ethernet Card
>>>> device          le              # AMD Am7900 LANCE and Am79C9xx PCnet
>>>> device          txp             # 3Com 3cR990 (``Typhoon'')
>>>> device          vx              # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
>>>>
>>>> device          miibus          # MII bus support
>>>> device          bce             # Broadcom BCM5706/BCM5708 Gigabit
>>>> Ethernet
>>>> device          bfe             # Broadcom BCM440x 10/100 Ethernet
>>>> device          bge             # Broadcom BCM570xx Gigabit Ethernet
>>>> device          dc              # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalik=
es
>>>> device          fxp             # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557,
>>>> 82558)
>>>> device          lge             # Level 1 LXT1001 gigabit Ethernet
>>>> device          msk             # Marvell/SysKonnect Yukon II Gigabit
>>>> Ethernet
>>>> device          nfe             # nVidia nForce MCP on-board Ethernet
>>>> device          nge             # NatSemi DP83820 gigabit Ethernet
>>>> device          pcn             # AMD Am79C97x PCI 10/100 (precedence
>>>> over
>>>> 'le')
>>>> device          re              # RealTek 8139C+/8169/8169S/8110S
>>>> device          rl              # RealTek 8129/8139
>>>> device          sf              # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
>>>> device          sis             # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/S=
iS
>>>> 7016
>>>> device          sk              # SysKonnect SK-984x & SK-982x gigabit
>>>> Ethernet
>>>> device          ste             # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
>>>> device          ti              # Alteon Networks Tigon I/II gigabit
>>>> Ethernet
>>>> device          tl              # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
>>>> device          tx              # SMC EtherPower II (83c170 ``EPIC'')
>>>> device          vge             # VIA VT612x gigabit Ethernet
>>>> device          vr              # VIA Rhine, Rhine II
>>>> device          wb              # Winbond W89C840F
>>>> device          xl              # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'',
>>>> ``Cyclone'')
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> device          loop            # Network loopback
>>>> device          random          # Entropy device
>>>> device          ether           # Ethernet support
>>>> device          sl              # Kernel SLIP
>>>> device          ppp             # Kernel PPP
>>>> device          tun             # Packet tunnel.
>>>> device          pty             # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
>>>> device          md              # Memory "disks"
>>>> device          gif             # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
>>>> device          faith           # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)
>>>> device          firmware        # firmware assist module
>>>>
>>>> device          bpf             # Berkeley packet filter
>>>>
>>>> device          uhci            # UHCI PCI->USB interface
>>>> device          ohci            # OHCI PCI->USB interface
>>>> device          ehci            # EHCI PCI->USB interface (USB 2.0)
>>>> device          usb             # USB Bus (required)
>>>> device          ugen            # Generic
>>>> device          uhid            # "Human Interface Devices"
>>>> device          ukbd            # Keyboard
>>>> device          umass           # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus
>>>> and
>>>> da
>>>> device          ums             # Mouse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


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>>> [...] I would wait until it has been considered stable and moved into
>>> the 7-STABLE tree before deploying a production server.
>>
>> ZFS has been in 7 for over a year.
>>
>> DES
>
> Yes, it's in STABLE, however zfs module says:
>
>   This module (opensolaris) contains code covered by the
>   Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL)
>   see http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/
>   *WARNING: ZFS is considered to be an experimental feature in FreeBSD.*
>
> So ZFS in 7.X should not be considered as STABLE for now.

Install a server with zfs and test it. Then let it handle tasks that
are not critical. And if it works for you proceed and deploy it. It's
somewhat difficult to say that it works for your particular workload.
Some have rather positive experience and others are very reluctant.

I use it as an internal samba-server and the issues I have are related
to the external sas-cabinet rather than zfs itself.

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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:04:10PM +0300, Igor Lyapin wrote:
> I have only one CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
> (2400.10-MHz K8-class CPU)
>   Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x6fb  Stepping = 11
>   Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,
> 
> This is from systat -v  and this behavior is not the same as yours, CSW
> during problems could be from normal 8k -11k CSW some time rise to 57k for a
> 1-2 sec but system load ~30% in system and 10-20 process in block state
> process.
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     3 users    Load  1.45  1.95  1.77                  Nov 19 11:58
> 
> Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                       VN PAGER   SWAP
> PAGER
>         Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free           in   out     in
> out

Can you please fix whatever mail client you're using to not wrap lines?
The data you've sent is impossible to read because of this.

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> Can you please fix whatever mail client you're using to not wrap lines?
> The data you've sent is impossible to read because of this.
>
Sorry
   3 users    Load  1.91  1.87  1.89                  Nov 19 12:26

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                       VN PAGER   SWAP
PAGER
       Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free           in   out     in   out
Act 1369324   17144  4197332    31032  227288  count
All 1419348   21020  8714160    73828          pages
Proc:                                                            Interrupts
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irq14
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:28:59PM +0300, Igor Lyapin wrote:
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>    3 users    Load  1.91  1.87  1.89                  Nov 19 12:26
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> Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                       VN PAGER   SWAP
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>        Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free           in   out     in   out
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> All 1419348   21020  8714160    73828          pages
> Proc:                                                            Interrupts
>  r   p   d   s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt    506 cow    9684 total
>  2      11 268       13k 9371  18k 1684  231 9151   8413 zfod        ata0
> irq14
>                                                          ozfod    48 atapci1
> 19
> 28.9%Sys   0.5%Intr  4.3%User  0.0%Nice 66.4%Idle        %ozfod  2011 cpu0:
> time
> |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |       daefr  1636 bge0
> 256
> ==============+>>                                     839 prcfr  2011 cpu1:
> time
>                                       324 dtbuf     8455 totfr  1989 cpu3:
> time
> Namei     Name-cache   Dir-cache    100000 desvn          react  1989 cpu2:
> time
>   Calls    hits   %    hits   %     82598 numvn          pdwak
>   73493   72895  99     399   1     25001 frevn          pdpgs
>                                                          intrn
> Disks   ad4   ad6  ad10   ar0                      508592 wire
> KB/t   0.00  0.00  0.00 15.85                     1366208 act
> tps       0     0     0    13                     1916668 inact
> MB/s   0.00  0.00  0.00  0.21                      152104 cache
> %busy     0     0     0     1                       74912 free
>                                                   219632 buf

These are still hard-wrapped.

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In message <200811170603.mAH63Q54011870@lava.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writes:

>>I could fear that you have two fifologs running at the same time,
>>possibly as a result of syslogd doing something strange on sighup...
>
>There is nothing really strange about the config.  Any idea on how to resolve?

Not right now, there is nothing that rings a bell here and I have not
seen it on any of my systems.

As I said, I would fear that the SIGHUB to syslog results in some
weird config where two writers are competing or something like that
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Hello Ivan,


> Where is the system busy? For start, try to collect information about
> what are your processes doing - for example from top(1).

    4 users    Load  1.43  1.46  1.27                  Nov 19 13:14

Mem:KB    REAL            VIRTUAL                       VN PAGER   SWAP PAG=
ER
        Tot   Share      Tot    Share    Free           in   out     in   o=
ut
Act 1367684   15208  4447732    27660  201372  count
All 1424692   26352  9032876   107292          pages
Proc:                                                            Interrupts
  r   p   d   s   w   Csw  Trp  Sys  Int  Sof  Flt    467 cow    9218 total
  2       9 282       13k 7775  36k 1218  350 7386   6832 zfod        ata0 =
irq14
                                                          ozfod   286 atapc=
i1 19
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Claus Guttesen pisze:
>>>> [...] I would wait until it has been considered stable and moved into
>>>> the 7-STABLE tree before deploying a production server.
>>>>         
>>> ZFS has been in 7 for over a year.
>>>
>>> DES
>>>       
>> Yes, it's in STABLE, however zfs module says:
>>
>>   This module (opensolaris) contains code covered by the
>>   Common Development and Distribution License (CDDL)
>>   see http://opensolaris.org/os/licensing/opensolaris_license/
>>   *WARNING: ZFS is considered to be an experimental feature in FreeBSD.*
>>
>> So ZFS in 7.X should not be considered as STABLE for now.
>>     
>
> Install a server with zfs and test it. Then let it handle tasks that
> are not critical. And if it works for you proceed and deploy it. It's
> somewhat difficult to say that it works for your particular workload.
> Some have rather positive experience and others are very reluctant.
>
> I use it as an internal samba-server and the issues I have are related
> to the external sas-cabinet rather than zfs itself.
>
>   
Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box 
(RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's 
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Igor Lyapin wrote:
> I already sent # top head in my first mail
> that's all non idle top process
>=20
> last pid: 56920;  load averages:  2.90,  2.25,  1.72                 up=

> 0+22:10:12  20:04:05
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>   PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
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> 55546 www              1  -4    0   198M 24912K ufs    1   0:25 29.39% =
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> 55986 www              1  -4    0   198M 23228K ufs    2   0:08 21.39% =
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> 56030 www              1  -4    0   199M 23400K ufs    1   0:05 11.23% =
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Ok, high sys load in "ufs" state for me was often caused by PHP session
storage. By default, PHP will store all session records in a single
directory, which can grow to monstruous sizes. If this is also your
case, here are some things to try:

a) increase vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem to 10 MB or something like that (look
at vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem to see if you're hitting the limit and if so,
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Yeah

I thought also about bios bug... it`s pretty new piece of HW with modern 
chipset (Q45). I believe that the next release of BIOS comes soon.

But what about those atapicd problems? Is it related to SATA interface 
of DVD/CD drive? Maybe also the LG drive has buggy FW :).

Best regards

Jeremy Chadwick napsal(a):
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:55:34AM +0100, Jan Sebosik wrote:
>> Allright, I`ve played again with an HPET in BIOS little bit.
>>
>> Results ->
>>
>> HPET disabled:
>>
>>   kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(-100) ACPI-fast(1000) i8254(0)  
>> dummy(-1000000)
>>   kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast
>>
>> HPET enabled:
>>
>>   kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(-100) HPET(900) ACPI-fast(1000) i8254(0)  
>> dummy(-1000000)
>>   kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast
>>
>>
>> But now FreeBSD boots also with HPET enabled (really don`t understand  
>> what`s going on).
>>
>> When I was trying to mount cd with "mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 /mnt/cd0",  
>> mount works as expected (atapicd module not loaded).
>>
>> Then I`ve kldload-ed atapicd, "mouunt -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt/cd0"  
>> (acd0, not cd0), but this ended with messages like this:
>> unknown: FAILURE - READ_BIG timeout (retry count 0)
>>
>> Temporary I`ve disabled HPET in BIOS (Linux got problems too-> he  
>> created gigabytes of log messages in /var/log/messages :D).
>>
>> Best regards, Jan
>>
>> Jeremy Chadwick napsal(a):
>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:19:37AM +0100, Jan Sebosik wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I`ve tested it 2 times (switching it in BIOS). To me it seems 
>>>> bit  mysterious, why there is a relationship between HPET setting and 
>>>> acd/cd  problems in FreeBSD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy Chadwick napsal(a):
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:08:34AM +0100, Jan Sebosik wrote:
>>>>>> Hi again
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so it seems to be a problem with HPET timer which is onboard and 
>>>>>> was  enabled. If I turned him off, (acd | cd) problems went away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan Sebosik napsal(a):
>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OS: Freebsd 7-STABLE from CVS of today
>>>>>>> Problematic HW: Intel DQ45CB  (Q45 chipset, ICH10, SATA in 
>>>>>>> native mode, but not AHCI), LG SATA DVD-RW GH20NS15
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Problem: if I run freebsd without LG DVD connected to any SATA 
>>>>>>> port  onboard everything works allright. When I connect SATA 
>>>>>>> DVD to board,  then freebsd refuses to boot with messages 
>>>>>>> similar to those:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> acd0: FAILURE-READ_BIG timed out
>>>>>>> unknown: FAILURE-READ_BIG timed out
>>>>>>> cddone: goit error 0x5 back
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Messages are repeating forever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anybody knows where should be a bug?
>>>>>>> Temporary I`ve disconnected LG SATA burner from system board.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Are you ***absolutely 100% certain*** this is true?  The time counter
>>>>> selected shouldn't have anything to do with the errors you see.
>>>>> Please thoroughly test this.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd CC jhb@ to get confirmation of my statement, but I've promised
>>>>> myself I wouldn't bother him until 2009.  :-)
>>> This is very bizarre.  The errors being returned from acd0 are that an
>>> ATAPI/ATA command (READ_BIG, whatever the code for that is) did not
>>> receive a response from the controller or device within 5 seconds
>>> (assuming the ata(4) timeout values here; it could be something larger
>>> for ATAPI, I don't know).  Maybe some a BIOS bug...
>>>
>>> Can you show us output from the following two commands?
>>>
>>> sysctl kern.timecounter.choice
>>> sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware
>>>
>>> Soren, do you know how/if the HPET time counter could cause this oddity?
>>> All of my systems use ACPI-fast, so I can't test this.
> 
> What this proves is that disabling HPET in the BIOS makes absolutely no
> change to FreeBSD as far as the timecounter goes.  It's still using
> ACPI-fast no matter if HPET is disabled or not.  Disabling HPET does
> show up in FreeBSD (as you can tell), but the ATA/ATAPI stuff *should
> not* have some direct tie-in to HPET.
> 
> I'm left believing you've found a BIOS bug.  Please bring this up with
> your motherboard or system vendor.
> 

-- 
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Opps,

bad mailing-list... excuse me.

Jan Sebosik napsal(a):
> Yeah
> 
> I thought also about bios bug... it`s pretty new piece of HW with modern 
> chipset (Q45). I believe that the next release of BIOS comes soon.
> 
> But what about those atapicd problems? Is it related to SATA interface 
> of DVD/CD drive? Maybe also the LG drive has buggy FW :).
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Jeremy Chadwick napsal(a):
>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:55:34AM +0100, Jan Sebosik wrote:
>>> Allright, I`ve played again with an HPET in BIOS little bit.
>>>
>>> Results ->
>>>
>>> HPET disabled:
>>>
>>>   kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(-100) ACPI-fast(1000) i8254(0)  
>>> dummy(-1000000)
>>>   kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast
>>>
>>> HPET enabled:
>>>
>>>   kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(-100) HPET(900) ACPI-fast(1000) 
>>> i8254(0)  dummy(-1000000)
>>>   kern.timecounter.hardware: ACPI-fast
>>>
>>>
>>> But now FreeBSD boots also with HPET enabled (really don`t 
>>> understand  what`s going on).
>>>
>>> When I was trying to mount cd with "mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0 
>>> /mnt/cd0",  mount works as expected (atapicd module not loaded).
>>>
>>> Then I`ve kldload-ed atapicd, "mouunt -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /mnt/cd0"  
>>> (acd0, not cd0), but this ended with messages like this:
>>> unknown: FAILURE - READ_BIG timeout (retry count 0)
>>>
>>> Temporary I`ve disabled HPET in BIOS (Linux got problems too-> he  
>>> created gigabytes of log messages in /var/log/messages :D).
>>>
>>> Best regards, Jan
>>>
>>> Jeremy Chadwick napsal(a):
>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:19:37AM +0100, Jan Sebosik wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, I`ve tested it 2 times (switching it in BIOS). To me it seems 
>>>>> bit  mysterious, why there is a relationship between HPET setting 
>>>>> and acd/cd  problems in FreeBSD.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy Chadwick napsal(a):
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:08:34AM +0100, Jan Sebosik wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so it seems to be a problem with HPET timer which is onboard and 
>>>>>>> was  enabled. If I turned him off, (acd | cd) problems went away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jan Sebosik napsal(a):
>>>>>>>> Hi all
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OS: Freebsd 7-STABLE from CVS of today
>>>>>>>> Problematic HW: Intel DQ45CB  (Q45 chipset, ICH10, SATA in 
>>>>>>>> native mode, but not AHCI), LG SATA DVD-RW GH20NS15
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Problem: if I run freebsd without LG DVD connected to any SATA 
>>>>>>>> port  onboard everything works allright. When I connect SATA DVD 
>>>>>>>> to board,  then freebsd refuses to boot with messages similar to 
>>>>>>>> those:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> acd0: FAILURE-READ_BIG timed out
>>>>>>>> unknown: FAILURE-READ_BIG timed out
>>>>>>>> cddone: goit error 0x5 back
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Messages are repeating forever.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anybody knows where should be a bug?
>>>>>>>> Temporary I`ve disconnected LG SATA burner from system board.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any idea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Are you ***absolutely 100% certain*** this is true?  The time counter
>>>>>> selected shouldn't have anything to do with the errors you see.
>>>>>> Please thoroughly test this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd CC jhb@ to get confirmation of my statement, but I've promised
>>>>>> myself I wouldn't bother him until 2009.  :-)
>>>> This is very bizarre.  The errors being returned from acd0 are that an
>>>> ATAPI/ATA command (READ_BIG, whatever the code for that is) did not
>>>> receive a response from the controller or device within 5 seconds
>>>> (assuming the ata(4) timeout values here; it could be something larger
>>>> for ATAPI, I don't know).  Maybe some a BIOS bug...
>>>>
>>>> Can you show us output from the following two commands?
>>>>
>>>> sysctl kern.timecounter.choice
>>>> sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware
>>>>
>>>> Soren, do you know how/if the HPET time counter could cause this 
>>>> oddity?
>>>> All of my systems use ACPI-fast, so I can't test this.
>>
>> What this proves is that disabling HPET in the BIOS makes absolutely no
>> change to FreeBSD as far as the timecounter goes.  It's still using
>> ACPI-fast no matter if HPET is disabled or not.  Disabling HPET does
>> show up in FreeBSD (as you can tell), but the ATA/ATAPI stuff *should
>> not* have some direct tie-in to HPET.
>>
>> I'm left believing you've found a BIOS bug.  Please bring this up with
>> your motherboard or system vendor.
>>
> 

-- 
Jan Sebosik, Slovakia
sebosik@demax.sk

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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:43:09AM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote:
> Igor Lyapin wrote:
> > I already sent # top head in my first mail
> > that's all non idle top process
> > 
> > last pid: 56920;  load averages:  2.90,  2.25,  1.72                 up
> > 0+22:10:12  20:04:05
> > 210 processes: 2 running, 207 sleeping, 1 zombie
> > CPU states:  8.3% user,  0.0% nice, 32.5% system,  0.3% interrupt, 58.9%
> > idle
> > Mem: 1268M Active, 1904M Inact, 479M Wired, 154M Cache, 214M Buf, 125M Free
> > Swap: 8192M Total, 8192M Free
> > 
> >   PID USERNAME       THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU
> > COMMAND
> > 55546 www              1  -4    0   198M 24912K ufs    1   0:25 29.39% httpd
> > 55986 www              1  -4    0   198M 23228K ufs    2   0:08 21.39% httpd
> > 56030 www              1  -4    0   199M 23400K ufs    1   0:05 11.23% httpd
> 
> Ok, high sys load in "ufs" state for me was often caused by PHP session
> storage. By default, PHP will store all session records in a single
> directory, which can grow to monstruous sizes. If this is also your
> case, here are some things to try:
> 
> a) increase vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem to 10 MB or something like that (look
> at vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem to see if you're hitting the limit and if so,
> monitor it to see what your dirhash_maxmem limit should be)
> b) configure PHP to use "sharded" directory structure for sessions.

Good catch, Ivan!

Also, I recommend tuning the session.gc_* php.ini variables to expire
sessions more often (less files laying around means less CPU due to
readdir()).  The defaults PHP uses are absurd.

I also hate how the session files end up in /var/tmp, making a gigantic
mess.  I made a separate directory for them, with specific perms (1777)
for security:

drwxrwxrwt  2 root  wheel  1024 Nov 19 03:33 /var/tmp/php_sessions/

The piece of php.ini we use on our production web servers:

[session]
session.save_path = "/var/tmp/php_sessions"
session.gc_maxlifetime = 900
session.gc_probability = 25
session.gc_divisor = 100

See the PHP documentation for what these variables do.

-- 
| Jeremy Chadwick                                jdc at parodius.com |
| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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hail,

I have an old AthlonXP 1700+ running 7-STABLE:

FreeBSD xxx 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Nov 13 23:54:59
BRT 2008 root@xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386

where I have two 750GB Seagate SATA Disks. They are divided as two slices,
around the first 120GB are gathered in gmirror, and what left is in
gstripe. so that's whats going on. if the machine locks, and fsck comes to
make its job, the box just gets slower and slower till I have to reset it
the hard way. to make it not lock after just 5 minutes I have to boot and
umount the "arrays", and then run fsck_ufs on them. so this way I can have
the box running again.

as I can't count on no power outage till the end of days, what can I do ?

i just recompiled stable to make it stop this, but no go here ...

this is an AthlonXP as said, running on EPoX kt600 based board, sata I is
from via southbridge and 1GB of RAM. just another 40GB disk to the system.

thanks,

matheus


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Hello Ivan,
Thank's Ivan you quite right this was problem with php session. Programmer =
set up in
script's 2 years of session life. It was about 460k files in /var/tmp.


>> COMMAND
>> 55546 www              1  -4    0   198M 24912K ufs    1   0:25 29.39% h=
ttpd
>> 55986 www              1  -4    0   198M 23228K ufs    2   0:08 21.39% h=
ttpd
>> 56030 www              1  -4    0   199M 23400K ufs    1   0:05 11.23% h=
ttpd

> Ok, high sys load in "ufs" state for me was often caused by PHP session
> storage. By default, PHP will store all session records in a single
> directory, which can grow to monstruous sizes. If this is also your
> case, here are some things to try:

> a) increase vfs.ufs.dirhash_maxmem to 10 MB or something like that (look
> at vfs.ufs.dirhash_mem to see if you're hitting the limit and if so,
> monitor it to see what your dirhash_maxmem limit should be)
> b) configure PHP to use "sharded" directory structure for sessions.




--=20
Best regards,
 Igor                    =20


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Nenhum_de_Nos pisze:
> hail,
>
> I have an old AthlonXP 1700+ running 7-STABLE:
>
> FreeBSD xxx 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Nov 13 23:54:59
> BRT 2008 root@xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386
>
> where I have two 750GB Seagate SATA Disks. They are divided as two slices,
> around the first 120GB are gathered in gmirror, and what left is in
> gstripe. so that's whats going on. if the machine locks, and fsck comes to
> make its job, the box just gets slower and slower till I have to reset it
> the hard way. to make it not lock after just 5 minutes I have to boot and
> umount the "arrays", and then run fsck_ufs on them. so this way I can have
> the box running again.
>   
Did you mean that machine slows down while doing background fsck? If 
yes, problem is probably related to snapshot which is created, and 
background fsck is done on snapshot.

> as I can't count on no power outage till the end of days, what can I do ?
>
>   
You may just disable background fsck and do it manually in single user 
mode in that case just by typing fsck -y.
> i just recompiled stable to make it stop this, but no go here ...
>
> this is an AthlonXP as said, running on EPoX kt600 based board, sata I is
> from via southbridge and 1GB of RAM. just another 40GB disk to the system.
>
> thanks,
>
> matheus
>   
If I am correct, your problem is old known and mksnap_ffs related. 
Jeremy Chadwick wrote a lot about it:
http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues

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Sossi Andrej schrieb:
> swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 31, size: 4096
> 
> Can somebody help me understand why the system crashed this way or how
> to avoid future crash?

This happens when it takes more than 20 seconds to swap out a page 
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/troubleshoot.html#INDEFINITE-WAIT-BUFFER).

I had the same problem some time ago with FreeBSD 6.0 when making 
Backups (so the disks were busy). For me it helped to increase the 
timeout from 20 to 40 seconds in vm/swap_pager.c 
(http://fxr.watson.org/fxr/source/vm/swap_pager.c?v=FREEBSD60#L1103)

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Peter,

At this point, I've reinstalled the system, so I can't say.

Jim

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On Wed, November 19, 2008 10:39 am, Bartosz Stec wrote:
> Nenhum_de_Nos pisze:
>> hail,
>>
>> I have an old AthlonXP 1700+ running 7-STABLE:
>>
>> FreeBSD xxx 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #1: Thu Nov 13
>> 23:54:59
>> BRT 2008 root@xxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/xxx i386
>>
>> where I have two 750GB Seagate SATA Disks. They are divided as two
>> slices,
>> around the first 120GB are gathered in gmirror, and what left is in
>> gstripe. so that's whats going on. if the machine locks, and fsck comes
>> to
>> make its job, the box just gets slower and slower till I have to reset
>> it
>> the hard way. to make it not lock after just 5 minutes I have to boot
>> and
>> umount the "arrays", and then run fsck_ufs on them. so this way I can
>> have
>> the box running again.
>>
> Did you mean that machine slows down while doing background fsck? If
> yes, problem is probably related to snapshot which is created, and
> background fsck is done on snapshot.

I can say for slow down, as I can't do anything on it. ping to it responds
really slow, and if I plug an usb keyboard and try to use the machine, the
keyborad just is able to change consoles (from tty1 to tty2, and so on),
but I can't even login to the machine, as nothing I type gets to the
terminal. so I can't say its slow or locked.

>> as I can't count on no power outage till the end of days, what can I do
>> ?
>>
>>
> You may just disable background fsck and do it manually in single user
> mode in that case just by typing fsck -y.

ok, but this makes me have to be there every reboot, if it wasn't a reboot
from a command sent by me. and this makes my life hard, as I can't be
allways there (this is a home server, nfs+pf+postfix+webmail+dns), I just
want to put fsck_y on rc.conf ...

>> i just recompiled stable to make it stop this, but no go here ...
>>
>> this is an AthlonXP as said, running on EPoX kt600 based board, sata I
>> is
>> from via southbridge and 1GB of RAM. just another 40GB disk to the
>> system.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> matheus
>>
> If I am correct, your problem is old known and mksnap_ffs related.
> Jeremy Chadwick wrote a lot about it:
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/Commonly_reported_issues

gonna read :)

thanks

matheus

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On Wed, November 19, 2008 6:05 am, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
> I have recently been pointed to the u3g driver and gave it a try,
> because UBSA works very unreliable for me.
>
> - In combination with PF-NAT I get kernel panics under high load.
> - I have to hack some buffer sizes in the driver to get the full
>   3G speed.
> - Often my USB-3G stick is not detected, sometimes I spent several
>   minutes plugging it in and out until it is detected.
> - It doesn't let me use the card reader in the stick.
>
> The u3g driver has NONE of these problems. Everything just works
> for me.
>
> So obviously I would like to have u3g in stable and chose for
> myself or even take support for devices out of ubsa that work
> better with u3g.
> _______________________________________________

same for me. I'm looking forward to see u3g in STABLE.

matheus

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I upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 p5 last night. Upon rebooting, the second disk i=
n the mirror is missing.=0A=0A# atacontrol status ar0=0Aar0: ATA RAID1 stat=
us: DEGRADED=0A subdisks:=0A   0 ad0  ONLINE=0A   1 ---- MISSING=0A=0A# gre=
p ata /var/run/dmesg.boot=0Aad0: 238475MB <WDC WD2500AVJB-63UDA0 00.02C01> =
at ata0-master UDMA100=0Aad1: 238475MB <WDC WD2500AVJB-63UDA0 00.02C01> at =
ata0-slave UDMA100=0Aar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad0 at ata0-master=0Aa=
r1: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad1 at ata0-slave=0A=0AI am unsure how to re=
-add the disk, or if this is a bug. I noticed a number of fixes for atacont=
rol.c beyond the current version in 6.3 (1.36.2.6)=0Ahttp://www.freebsd.org=
/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/atacontrol/atacontrol.c=0A=0AObviously it won't re=
build=0A# atacontrol rebuild ar0=0Aatacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDREBUILD): In=
put/output error=0A=0ADo I do?=0Aatacontrol detach ata0-slave=0A&& atacontr=
ol attach ata0-slave && atacontrol addspare ad1 ar0 =0A&& atacontrol rebuil=
d ar0=0A=0A(not sure what channel I am supposed to be using) Or is this som=
ething that requires atacontrol.c to be patched?=0A=0AI am not sure where t=
o start, so I thought I would ask here first before trying anything.=0A=0Ab=
tw, its Intel ICH5:=0Aatapci1: <Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller> port 0xc000-=
0xc007,0xc400-0xc403,0xc800-0xc807,0xcc00-0xcc03,0xd000-0xd00f irq 18 at de=
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 09:15:12AM -0800, Mark Sams wrote:
> I upgraded from 6.2 to 6.3 p5 last night. Upon rebooting, the second disk in the mirror is missing.
> 
> # atacontrol status ar0
> ar0: ATA RAID1 status: DEGRADED
>  subdisks:
>    0 ad0  ONLINE
>    1 ---- MISSING
> 
> # grep ata /var/run/dmesg.boot
> ad0: 238475MB <WDC WD2500AVJB-63UDA0 00.02C01> at ata0-master UDMA100
> ad1: 238475MB <WDC WD2500AVJB-63UDA0 00.02C01> at ata0-slave UDMA100
> ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad0 at ata0-master
> ar1: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad1 at ata0-slave
> 
> I am unsure how to re-add the disk, or if this is a bug. I noticed a number of fixes for atacontrol.c beyond the current version in 6.3 (1.36.2.6)
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/atacontrol/atacontrol.c
> 
> Obviously it won't rebuild
> # atacontrol rebuild ar0
> atacontrol: ioctl(IOCATARAIDREBUILD): Input/output error
> 
> Do I do?
> atacontrol detach ata0-slave
> && atacontrol attach ata0-slave && atacontrol addspare ad1 ar0 
> && atacontrol rebuild ar0
> 
> (not sure what channel I am supposed to be using) Or is this something that requires atacontrol.c to be patched?
> 
> I am not sure where to start, so I thought I would ask here first before trying anything.
> 
> btw, its Intel ICH5:
> atapci1: <Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller> port 0xc000-0xc007,0xc400-0xc403,0xc800-0xc807,0xcc00-0xcc03,0xd000-0xd00f irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0

You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away from
this immediately, your data is at risk.

http://wiki.freebsd.org/JeremyChadwick/ATA_issues_and_troubleshooting

The problem you're experiencing is documented there.

There is no solution, as far as I know.  The problems still exist on
RELENG_7 also.

I recommend you back up (off-load) all of your data onto a disk or
system somewhere else, and use gmirror(8) instead.  Please, stay away
from Intel MatrixRAID on FreeBSD.

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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:29:19AM -0800, Mark Sams wrote:
> > From: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
> > You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away from
> > this immediately, your data is at risk.
> 
> Ummm... I don't think so. It is just a standard RAID 1 mirror using the
> built in ICH5 chip. It has been running fine for a over a year now on
> the other builds of FreeBSD 6.x.  It is not RAID 0+1 or whatever the
> Matrix RAID thing is.

The built-in ICH5 == Intel MatrixRAID.  It's BIOS-level RAID under an
Intel ICH chip.  It's called MatrixRAID.

I have no personal problem with Intel MatrixRAID.  What I'm telling you
is that FreeBSD's support for it is horribly, horribly broken.  You
*will* lose your data.  Read my Wiki entries in full.

I'm only going to say this once more: please reconsider.  You very
likely are not going to be able to recover that failed array.  The last
person who had this problem had to boot a Linux LiveCD and attempt to
use Linux tools to repair it.

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> Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box 
> (RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's 
> stable. Unfortunately ZFS crashed next week ;)

Tune your system for ZFS and the crashes will go away.
Read this:  http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide

A running system with ZFS caches a lot of disk access (making it really 
fast for some applications).  WHen you run the 'top' command, you will 
see that WIRED amount of ram is higher than a system without ZFS.
 
  Mem: 161M Active, 114M Inact, 639M Wired, 1084K Cache, 199M Buf, 1086M 
Free

What applications will benefit from ZFS?  Read this article on MySQL and 
ZFS:
 http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/mysql-zfs.html
It proposed that you allocate less ram to MySQL in your my.cnf and let 
ZFS take care of caching.

Here are my loader.conf settings.

zfs_load="YES"
# ZFS tunings
vm.kmem_size="800M"
vm.kmem_size_max="800M"
# http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide
vfs.zfs.arc_max="160M"
vfs.zfs.vdev.cache.size="5M"

# and I have my root on zfs...
vfs.root.mountfrom="zfs:tank/root"


- Rudy

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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:32:42AM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:29:19AM -0800, Mark Sams wrote:
> > > From: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
> > > You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away from
> > > this immediately, your data is at risk.
> > 
> > Ummm... I don't think so. It is just a standard RAID 1 mirror using the
> > built in ICH5 chip. It has been running fine for a over a year now on
> > the other builds of FreeBSD 6.x.  It is not RAID 0+1 or whatever the
> > Matrix RAID thing is.
> 
> The built-in ICH5 == Intel MatrixRAID.  It's BIOS-level RAID under an
> Intel ICH chip.  It's called MatrixRAID.

No, it is not.  MatrixRAID was not introduced until with the ICH6R
controller.  Earlier Intel ICH chips (including the ICH5) may well have
supported some kind of BIOS-level RAID, but it was not MatrixRAID.

(This is not to say that their earlier RAID implementations was any more
or less reliable - I have no data on that.)


> 
> I have no personal problem with Intel MatrixRAID.  What I'm telling you
> is that FreeBSD's support for it is horribly, horribly broken.  You
> *will* lose your data.  Read my Wiki entries in full.
> 
> I'm only going to say this once more: please reconsider.  You very
> likely are not going to be able to recover that failed array.  The last
> person who had this problem had to boot a Linux LiveCD and attempt to
> use Linux tools to repair it.



-- 
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> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:29:19AM -0800, Mark Sams wrote:
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> > > > You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away from
> > > > this immediately, your data is at risk.
> > > 
> > > Ummm... I don't think so. It is just a standard RAID 1 mirror using the
> > > built in ICH5 chip. It has been running fine for a over a year now on
> > > the other builds of FreeBSD 6.x.  It is not RAID 0+1 or whatever the
> > > Matrix RAID thing is.
> > 
> > The built-in ICH5 == Intel MatrixRAID.  It's BIOS-level RAID under an
> > Intel ICH chip.  It's called MatrixRAID.
> 
> No, it is not.  MatrixRAID was not introduced until with the ICH6R
> controller.  Earlier Intel ICH chips (including the ICH5) may well have
> supported some kind of BIOS-level RAID, but it was not MatrixRAID.
> 
> (This is not to say that their earlier RAID implementations was any more
> or less reliable - I have no data on that.)

This is news to me.  I'll spend some time tonight at Intel's site
reading old chipset specifications.  :-)

The ataraid(4) man page only mentions MatrixRAID with regards to Intel,
which is why I'm wondering what exactly the ICH5 offers.  I wonder if
it's a very primitive RAID type which ataraid(4) simply handles under
the MatrixRAID code (which would explain the problems he's having with
getting the array back in order).

Thanks for the education lesson!  Always appreciated.  :-)

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| Parodius Networking                       http://www.parodius.com/ |
| UNIX Systems Administrator                  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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>
> Ram
>

1.) Please don't top-post.

2.) I gave you an example.  You obviously know what your server is
doing, so you need to adjust the tunable accordingly.  You can always
set the number "too high", then slim it down from there after testing
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On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Ramesh Ayyagari
<rameshayyagari@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have my client system running FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 with 4 GB of RAM. This morning i have the following errors popping up on the console log -
>
> postfix/qmgr[94057]: fatal: socket: Too many open files
>
> Googling for this error, I found this is someway related to the kernel parameter kern.maxflies and increasing this value can have errors go away. The present value of this parameter is 24000. I also found this also depends of the RAM we have on the system.
>
> what would the appropriate value for kern.maxfiles for a system having 2GB RAM, a system having 4 GB and a system having 16GB of RAM. Please help
>

The Xorg meta-package recommends 'kern.maxfiles="25000"' for a desktop
system.  This is a situation where it really depends on what you're
using your system for.

HTH

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> > > > You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away fro=
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 03:43:02PM -0800, Mark Sams wrote:
> > > > > You're using Intel MatrixRAID, aren't you?  Please migrate away from
> 
> > > > > this immediately, your data is at risk.
> 
> Although I am not using Matrix RAID, I guess I will switch to gmirror to be safe. Does the following approach seem valid?
> 

You are missing one very important step that you should make regardless of
which approach you use:

 0) Make a backup of any and all data that you don't want to lose (and check
    that you can restore data from the backup while you still have the
    original data.)

> 
> 1) Break the mirror (ar0)
> 2) Reboot using ad0
> 3) (from the link
> http://lantech.geekvenue.net/chucktips/jason/chuck/1175552464/index_html ):
> 
>   Step 1: Use sysctl to allow the mounted disk to be modified
>   Step 2: Create the mirror (gm0) using ad0 with gmirror
>   Step 3: Modify /boot/loader.conf to load gmirror on startup
>   Step 4: Replace ar0 with gm0 in /etc/fstab
>   Step 6: Use gmirror insert command to add ad1 to gm0
>   Step 7: Check the mirroring status with gmirror statusShould I just call the mirror ar0 instead of gm0 and save doing step4? Any problem with that?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Mark

(Somebody else will have to answer if the above can be expected to work or
not, but I suspect that it would be easier and less errorprone to do as
follow:
1) Make backups of all data
2) Delete the old RAID array.
3) Create a new array from scratch
4) Restore data from backups)



-- 
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Erik Trulsson
ertr1013@student.uu.se

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Ganbold wrote:
> #3  0xc06ab8b3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at 
> /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2202
> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e59b30, flags=524288, 
> td=0xc3b31d20) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2939
> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at 
> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at 
> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
> #8  0xc08171f5 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at 
> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
> #9  0xc07fd710 in Xint0x80_syscall () at 
> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
> (kgdb)
> ..
I was able to reproduce the panic. I plugged in external ZFS/GELI HDD 
via USB
and used 'zpool import' to import disk and did some 'ls' and then used 
'zpool export' to umount disk.
Then I detached the disk from desktop and tried to "shutdown -p now". 
This way panic is
reproduced 2 times.

More info:

daemon% uname -an
FreeBSD daemon.micom.mng.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #8 
r185085M: Thu Nov 20 12:50:33 ULAT 2008     
tsgan@daemon.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GDAEMON  i386
daemon%


<118>.
<118>Writing entropy file:
<118>.
<118>Terminated
<118>.
<118>Nov 20 14:30:12 daemon syslogd: exiting on signal 15
rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 2
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...) 
at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,2,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8b6
exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
--- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp = 
0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...) 
at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8c3
exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
--- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp = 
0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done
Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...
Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...2 1 0 0 done
All buffers synced.
rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55ba8,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...) 
at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,c3b31d20,eef55ba8,...) at 
kdb_backtrace+0x29
vrele(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vrele+0x83
dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x491
vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
--- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp = 
0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
panic: vput: negative ref cnt
cpuid = 0
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55b68,c062bd39,c08832ea,0,...) at 
db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c08832ea,0,c086fac1,eef55b74,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
panic(c086fac1,eef55ba8,c06abcd0,c3d11ac8,eef55b90,...) at panic+0x119
vput(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vput+0xf3
dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x4a6
vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
--- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp = 
0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
Uptime: 7m3s
Physical memory: 1013 MB
Dumping 54 MB: 39 23 7
(kgdb) where
#0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
#1  0xc062ba67 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
#2  0xc062bd72 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
#3  0xc06ab8e3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2211
#4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
#5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2948
#6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
#7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at 
/usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
#8  0xc0817245 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
#9  0xc07fd760 in Xint0x80_syscall () at 
/usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
#10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
(kgdb) frame 4
#4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20) 
at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
1288            vput(fsrootvp);
(kgdb) p *mp
$1 = {mnt_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_type = 
0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_flags = 70844416, lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {
          stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock = 
0xc0956fa8, lk_flags = 1310720, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0, 
lk_exclusivecount = 1,
    lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock = 
0x0}, mnt_mtx = {lock_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx",
      lo_type = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx", lo_flags = 16973824, 
lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, 
mtx_lock = 4,
    mtx_recurse = 0}, mnt_gen = 1, mnt_list = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev 
= 0xc091c224}, mnt_op = 0xc0926080, mnt_vfc = 0xc0926040, 
mnt_vnodecovered = 0x0,
  mnt_syncer = 0x0, mnt_ref = 736, mnt_nvnodelist = {tqh_first = 
0xc3d11ac8, tqh_last = 0xc67fd350}, mnt_nvnodelistsize = 736, 
mnt_writeopcount = 1,
  mnt_kern_flag = 553648137, mnt_flag = 20480, mnt_noasync = 0, mnt_opt 
= 0xc3c4cc90, mnt_optnew = 0x0, mnt_maxsymlinklen = 120, mnt_stat = {
    f_version = 537068824, f_type = 1, f_flags = 20480, f_bsize = 2048, 
f_iosize = 16384, f_blocks = 2538519, f_bfree = 2339932, f_bavail = 
2136851,
    f_files = 659454, f_ffree = 651413, f_syncwrites = 0, f_asyncwrites 
= 0, f_syncreads = 0, f_asyncreads = 0, f_spare = {0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 
0, 0, 0},
    f_namemax = 255, f_owner = 0, f_fsid = {val = {1149777033, 
1944990175}}, f_charspare = '\0' <repeats 79 times>,
    f_fstypename = "ufs", '\0' <repeats 12 times>, f_mntfromname = 
"/dev/ad4s1a", '\0' <repeats 76 times>, f_mntonname = "/", '\0' <repeats 
86 times>},
  mnt_cred = 0xc3e52700, mnt_data = 0xc3e52600, mnt_time = 1227162073, 
mnt_iosize_max = 131072, mnt_export = 0x0, mnt_label = 0x0,
  mnt_hashseed = 2358371174, mnt_markercnt = 0, mnt_holdcnt = 0, 
mnt_holdcntwaiters = 0, mnt_secondary_writes = 0, 
mnt_secondary_accwrites = 2874,
  mnt_gjprovider = 0x0, mnt_explock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f23c 
"explock", lo_type = 0xc086f23c "explock", lo_flags = 70844416, 
lo_witness_data = {
        lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock 
= 0xc0956fc0, lk_flags = 0, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0,
    lk_exclusivecount = 0, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = 
0xffffffff, lk_newlock = 0x0}}
(kgdb) p fsrootvp             
$2 = (struct vnode *) 0xc3d11ac8
(kgdb) p *fsrootvp
$3 = {v_type = VDIR, v_tag = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", v_op = 0xc0926280, v_data 
= 0xc3e5d000, v_mount = 0xc3e56b30, v_nmntvnodes = {tqe_next = 0xc3d119b4,
    tqe_prev = 0xc3e56b98}, v_un = {vu_mount = 0x0, vu_socket = 0x0, 
vu_cdev = 0x0, vu_fifoinfo = 0x0, vu_yield = 0}, v_hashlist = {le_next = 
0x0,
    le_prev = 0xc3d09da0}, v_hash = 2, v_cache_src = {lh_first = 0x0}, 
v_cache_dst = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11af8}, v_dd = 0x0, 
v_cstart = 0,
  v_lasta = 0, v_lastw = 0, v_clen = 0, v_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 
0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_type = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_flags = 70844416,
      lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 
0x0}}, lk_interlock = 0xc0956510, lk_flags = 262208, lk_sharecount = 0,
    lk_waitcount = 0, lk_exclusivecount = 1, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 51, 
lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock = 0x0}, v_interlock = 
{lock_object = {
      lo_name = 0xc086fb51 "vnode interlock", lo_type = 0xc086fb51 
"vnode interlock", lo_flags = 16973824, lo_witness_data = {lod_list = 
{stqe_next = 0x0},
        lod_witness = 0x0}}, mtx_lock = 3283295520, mtx_recurse = 0}, 
v_vnlock = 0xc3d11b20, v_holdcnt = 2, v_usecount = 0, v_iflag = 0, 
v_vflag = 1,
  v_writecount = 0, v_freelist = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0x0}, 
v_bufobj = {bo_mtx = 0xc3d11b50, bo_clean = {bv_hd = {tqh_first = 
0xe3d02594,
        tqh_last = 0xe3d025cc}, bv_root = 0xe3d02594, bv_cnt = 1}, 
bo_dirty = {bv_hd = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11b9c}, bv_root = 
0x0,
      bv_cnt = 0}, bo_numoutput = 0, bo_flag = 0, bo_ops = 0xc091ae00, 
bo_bsize = 16384, bo_object = 0xc106183c, bo_synclist = {le_next = 0x0,
      le_prev = 0x0}, bo_private = 0xc3d11ac8, __bo_vnode = 0xc3d11ac8}, 
v_pollinfo = 0x0, v_label = 0x0, v_lockf = 0x0}
(kgdb) p rootvnode
$4 = (struct vnode *) 0x0
(kgdb) p *rootvnode
Cannot access memory at address 0x0
(kgdb)


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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:50:46PM +0800, Ganbold wrote:
> Ganbold wrote:
>> #3  0xc06ab8b3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2202
>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e59b30, flags=524288,  
>> td=0xc3b31d20) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2939
>> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
>> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
>> #8  0xc08171f5 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
>> #9  0xc07fd710 in Xint0x80_syscall () at  
>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
>> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
>> (kgdb)
>> ..
> I was able to reproduce the panic. I plugged in external ZFS/GELI HDD  
> via USB
> and used 'zpool import' to import disk and did some 'ls' and then used  
> 'zpool export' to umount disk.
> Then I detached the disk from desktop and tried to "shutdown -p now".  
> This way panic is
> reproduced 2 times.

Are we sure that the problem isn't the well-known "do not yank a device
out from underneathe the rest of the OS" problem, e.g. removing
removable devices while filesystems are still mounted?  If so, this
problem is very well-known, documented on my Wiki, and work is being
done in CURRENT to fix it (official ETA is 2009/02).

I see geli(8) has a "detach" option, which you might need to do after
the "zpool export", being as the GEOM provider is still attached to
the USB HDD.  I would recommend trying that first.

> More info:
>
> daemon% uname -an
> FreeBSD daemon.micom.mng.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #8  
> r185085M: Thu Nov 20 12:50:33 ULAT 2008      
> tsgan@daemon.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GDAEMON  i386
> daemon%
>
>
> <118>.
> <118>Writing entropy file:
> <118>.
> <118>Terminated
> <118>.
> <118>Nov 20 14:30:12 daemon syslogd: exiting on signal 15
> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 2
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...)  
> at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,2,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
> fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8b6
> exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
> sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
> syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp =  
> 0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...)  
> at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
> fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8c3
> exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
> sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
> syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp =  
> 0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done
> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done
> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...
> Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...2 1 0 0 done
> All buffers synced.
> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55ba8,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...)  
> at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,c3b31d20,eef55ba8,...) at  
> kdb_backtrace+0x29
> vrele(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vrele+0x83
> dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x491
> vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
> boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
> reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
> syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp =  
> 0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
> panic: vput: negative ref cnt
> cpuid = 0
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55b68,c062bd39,c08832ea,0,...) at  
> db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c08832ea,0,c086fac1,eef55b74,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> panic(c086fac1,eef55ba8,c06abcd0,c3d11ac8,eef55b90,...) at panic+0x119
> vput(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vput+0xf3
> dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x4a6
> vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
> boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
> reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
> syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp =  
> 0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
> Uptime: 7m3s
> Physical memory: 1013 MB
> Dumping 54 MB: 39 23 7
> (kgdb) where
> #0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
> #1  0xc062ba67 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
> #2  0xc062bd72 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
> ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
> #3  0xc06ab8e3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2211
> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20)  
> at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2948
> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at  
> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at  
> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
> #8  0xc0817245 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at  
> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
> #9  0xc07fd760 in Xint0x80_syscall () at  
> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
> (kgdb) frame 4
> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20)  
> at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
> 1288            vput(fsrootvp);
> (kgdb) p *mp
> $1 = {mnt_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_type =  
> 0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_flags = 70844416, lo_witness_data = {lod_list = 
> {
>          stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock =  
> 0xc0956fa8, lk_flags = 1310720, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0,  
> lk_exclusivecount = 1,
>    lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock =  
> 0x0}, mnt_mtx = {lock_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx",
>      lo_type = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx", lo_flags = 16973824,  
> lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}},  
> mtx_lock = 4,
>    mtx_recurse = 0}, mnt_gen = 1, mnt_list = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 
> 0xc091c224}, mnt_op = 0xc0926080, mnt_vfc = 0xc0926040, mnt_vnodecovered 
> = 0x0,
>  mnt_syncer = 0x0, mnt_ref = 736, mnt_nvnodelist = {tqh_first =  
> 0xc3d11ac8, tqh_last = 0xc67fd350}, mnt_nvnodelistsize = 736,  
> mnt_writeopcount = 1,
>  mnt_kern_flag = 553648137, mnt_flag = 20480, mnt_noasync = 0, mnt_opt = 
> 0xc3c4cc90, mnt_optnew = 0x0, mnt_maxsymlinklen = 120, mnt_stat = {
>    f_version = 537068824, f_type = 1, f_flags = 20480, f_bsize = 2048,  
> f_iosize = 16384, f_blocks = 2538519, f_bfree = 2339932, f_bavail =  
> 2136851,
>    f_files = 659454, f_ffree = 651413, f_syncwrites = 0, f_asyncwrites = 
> 0, f_syncreads = 0, f_asyncreads = 0, f_spare = {0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 
> 0, 0},
>    f_namemax = 255, f_owner = 0, f_fsid = {val = {1149777033,  
> 1944990175}}, f_charspare = '\0' <repeats 79 times>,
>    f_fstypename = "ufs", '\0' <repeats 12 times>, f_mntfromname =  
> "/dev/ad4s1a", '\0' <repeats 76 times>, f_mntonname = "/", '\0' <repeats  
> 86 times>},
>  mnt_cred = 0xc3e52700, mnt_data = 0xc3e52600, mnt_time = 1227162073,  
> mnt_iosize_max = 131072, mnt_export = 0x0, mnt_label = 0x0,
>  mnt_hashseed = 2358371174, mnt_markercnt = 0, mnt_holdcnt = 0,  
> mnt_holdcntwaiters = 0, mnt_secondary_writes = 0,  
> mnt_secondary_accwrites = 2874,
>  mnt_gjprovider = 0x0, mnt_explock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f23c  
> "explock", lo_type = 0xc086f23c "explock", lo_flags = 70844416,  
> lo_witness_data = {
>        lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock = 
> 0xc0956fc0, lk_flags = 0, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0,
>    lk_exclusivecount = 0, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder =  
> 0xffffffff, lk_newlock = 0x0}}
> (kgdb) p fsrootvp             $2 = (struct vnode *) 0xc3d11ac8
> (kgdb) p *fsrootvp
> $3 = {v_type = VDIR, v_tag = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", v_op = 0xc0926280, v_data  
> = 0xc3e5d000, v_mount = 0xc3e56b30, v_nmntvnodes = {tqe_next = 
> 0xc3d119b4,
>    tqe_prev = 0xc3e56b98}, v_un = {vu_mount = 0x0, vu_socket = 0x0,  
> vu_cdev = 0x0, vu_fifoinfo = 0x0, vu_yield = 0}, v_hashlist = {le_next =  
> 0x0,
>    le_prev = 0xc3d09da0}, v_hash = 2, v_cache_src = {lh_first = 0x0},  
> v_cache_dst = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11af8}, v_dd = 0x0,  
> v_cstart = 0,
>  v_lasta = 0, v_lastw = 0, v_clen = 0, v_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name =  
> 0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_type = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_flags = 70844416,
>      lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness =  
> 0x0}}, lk_interlock = 0xc0956510, lk_flags = 262208, lk_sharecount = 0,
>    lk_waitcount = 0, lk_exclusivecount = 1, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 51,  
> lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock = 0x0}, v_interlock =  
> {lock_object = {
>      lo_name = 0xc086fb51 "vnode interlock", lo_type = 0xc086fb51 "vnode 
> interlock", lo_flags = 16973824, lo_witness_data = {lod_list =  
> {stqe_next = 0x0},
>        lod_witness = 0x0}}, mtx_lock = 3283295520, mtx_recurse = 0},  
> v_vnlock = 0xc3d11b20, v_holdcnt = 2, v_usecount = 0, v_iflag = 0,  
> v_vflag = 1,
>  v_writecount = 0, v_freelist = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0x0},  
> v_bufobj = {bo_mtx = 0xc3d11b50, bo_clean = {bv_hd = {tqh_first =  
> 0xe3d02594,
>        tqh_last = 0xe3d025cc}, bv_root = 0xe3d02594, bv_cnt = 1},  
> bo_dirty = {bv_hd = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11b9c}, bv_root =  
> 0x0,
>      bv_cnt = 0}, bo_numoutput = 0, bo_flag = 0, bo_ops = 0xc091ae00,  
> bo_bsize = 16384, bo_object = 0xc106183c, bo_synclist = {le_next = 0x0,
>      le_prev = 0x0}, bo_private = 0xc3d11ac8, __bo_vnode = 0xc3d11ac8},  
> v_pollinfo = 0x0, v_label = 0x0, v_lockf = 0x0}
> (kgdb) p rootvnode
> $4 = (struct vnode *) 0x0
> (kgdb) p *rootvnode
> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
> (kgdb)
>
>
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> significant job that has so far been given to them.
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Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:50:46PM +0800, Ganbold wrote:
>   
>> Ganbold wrote:
>>     
>>> #3  0xc06ab8b3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at  
>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2202
>>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e59b30, flags=524288,  
>>> td=0xc3b31d20) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>>> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2939
>>> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at  
>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
>>> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at  
>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
>>> #8  0xc08171f5 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at  
>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
>>> #9  0xc07fd710 in Xint0x80_syscall () at  
>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
>>> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
>>> (kgdb)
>>> ..
>>>       
>> I was able to reproduce the panic. I plugged in external ZFS/GELI HDD  
>> via USB
>> and used 'zpool import' to import disk and did some 'ls' and then used  
>> 'zpool export' to umount disk.
>> Then I detached the disk from desktop and tried to "shutdown -p now".  
>> This way panic is
>> reproduced 2 times.
>>     
>
> Are we sure that the problem isn't the well-known "do not yank a device
> out from underneathe the rest of the OS" problem, e.g. removing
> removable devices while filesystems are still mounted?  If so, this
> problem is very well-known, documented on my Wiki, and work is being
> done in CURRENT to fix it (official ETA is 2009/02).
>
> I see geli(8) has a "detach" option, which you might need to do after
> the "zpool export", being as the GEOM provider is still attached to
> the USB HDD.  I would recommend trying that first.
>   

Thanks for suggestion :) In my zfs_mount and zfs_umount scripts I have:

zfs_mount.sh
#!/bin/sh
geli attach -k /root/da0.key /dev/da0s1e
zpool import tank1
zpool import tank2

zfs_umount.sh
#!/bin/sh
zpool export tank1
zpool export tank2
geli detach da0s1e.eli

I hope that answers what you meant :)

Ganbold

>   
>> More info:
>>
>> daemon% uname -an
>> FreeBSD daemon.micom.mng.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #8  
>> r185085M: Thu Nov 20 12:50:33 ULAT 2008      
>> tsgan@daemon.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GDAEMON  i386
>> daemon%
>>
>>
>> <118>.
>> <118>Writing entropy file:
>> <118>.
>> <118>Terminated
>> <118>.
>> <118>Nov 20 14:30:12 daemon syslogd: exiting on signal 15
>> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 2
>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...)  
>> at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,2,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
>> vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
>> fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8b6
>> exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
>> sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
>> syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>> --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp =  
>> 0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
>> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...)  
>> at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
>> vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
>> fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8c3
>> exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
>> sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
>> syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>> --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp =  
>> 0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
>> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done
>> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done
>> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...
>> Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...2 1 0 0 done
>> All buffers synced.
>> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55ba8,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...)  
>> at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,c3b31d20,eef55ba8,...) at  
>> kdb_backtrace+0x29
>> vrele(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vrele+0x83
>> dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x491
>> vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
>> boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
>> reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
>> syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>> --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp =  
>> 0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
>> panic: vput: negative ref cnt
>> cpuid = 0
>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55b68,c062bd39,c08832ea,0,...) at  
>> db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>> kdb_backtrace(c08832ea,0,c086fac1,eef55b74,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
>> panic(c086fac1,eef55ba8,c06abcd0,c3d11ac8,eef55b90,...) at panic+0x119
>> vput(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vput+0xf3
>> dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x4a6
>> vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
>> boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
>> reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
>> syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>> --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp =  
>> 0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
>> Uptime: 7m3s
>> Physical memory: 1013 MB
>> Dumping 54 MB: 39 23 7
>> (kgdb) where
>> #0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
>> #1  0xc062ba67 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
>> #2  0xc062bd72 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
>> ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
>> #3  0xc06ab8e3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2211
>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20)  
>> at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2948
>> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
>> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
>> #8  0xc0817245 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at  
>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
>> #9  0xc07fd760 in Xint0x80_syscall () at  
>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
>> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
>> (kgdb) frame 4
>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, td=0xc3b31d20)  
>> at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>> 1288            vput(fsrootvp);
>> (kgdb) p *mp
>> $1 = {mnt_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_type =  
>> 0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_flags = 70844416, lo_witness_data = {lod_list = 
>> {
>>          stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock =  
>> 0xc0956fa8, lk_flags = 1310720, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0,  
>> lk_exclusivecount = 1,
>>    lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock =  
>> 0x0}, mnt_mtx = {lock_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx",
>>      lo_type = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx", lo_flags = 16973824,  
>> lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}},  
>> mtx_lock = 4,
>>    mtx_recurse = 0}, mnt_gen = 1, mnt_list = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 
>> 0xc091c224}, mnt_op = 0xc0926080, mnt_vfc = 0xc0926040, mnt_vnodecovered 
>> = 0x0,
>>  mnt_syncer = 0x0, mnt_ref = 736, mnt_nvnodelist = {tqh_first =  
>> 0xc3d11ac8, tqh_last = 0xc67fd350}, mnt_nvnodelistsize = 736,  
>> mnt_writeopcount = 1,
>>  mnt_kern_flag = 553648137, mnt_flag = 20480, mnt_noasync = 0, mnt_opt = 
>> 0xc3c4cc90, mnt_optnew = 0x0, mnt_maxsymlinklen = 120, mnt_stat = {
>>    f_version = 537068824, f_type = 1, f_flags = 20480, f_bsize = 2048,  
>> f_iosize = 16384, f_blocks = 2538519, f_bfree = 2339932, f_bavail =  
>> 2136851,
>>    f_files = 659454, f_ffree = 651413, f_syncwrites = 0, f_asyncwrites = 
>> 0, f_syncreads = 0, f_asyncreads = 0, f_spare = {0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 
>> 0, 0},
>>    f_namemax = 255, f_owner = 0, f_fsid = {val = {1149777033,  
>> 1944990175}}, f_charspare = '\0' <repeats 79 times>,
>>    f_fstypename = "ufs", '\0' <repeats 12 times>, f_mntfromname =  
>> "/dev/ad4s1a", '\0' <repeats 76 times>, f_mntonname = "/", '\0' <repeats  
>> 86 times>},
>>  mnt_cred = 0xc3e52700, mnt_data = 0xc3e52600, mnt_time = 1227162073,  
>> mnt_iosize_max = 131072, mnt_export = 0x0, mnt_label = 0x0,
>>  mnt_hashseed = 2358371174, mnt_markercnt = 0, mnt_holdcnt = 0,  
>> mnt_holdcntwaiters = 0, mnt_secondary_writes = 0,  
>> mnt_secondary_accwrites = 2874,
>>  mnt_gjprovider = 0x0, mnt_explock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f23c  
>> "explock", lo_type = 0xc086f23c "explock", lo_flags = 70844416,  
>> lo_witness_data = {
>>        lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock = 
>> 0xc0956fc0, lk_flags = 0, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0,
>>    lk_exclusivecount = 0, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder =  
>> 0xffffffff, lk_newlock = 0x0}}
>> (kgdb) p fsrootvp             $2 = (struct vnode *) 0xc3d11ac8
>> (kgdb) p *fsrootvp
>> $3 = {v_type = VDIR, v_tag = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", v_op = 0xc0926280, v_data  
>> = 0xc3e5d000, v_mount = 0xc3e56b30, v_nmntvnodes = {tqe_next = 
>> 0xc3d119b4,
>>    tqe_prev = 0xc3e56b98}, v_un = {vu_mount = 0x0, vu_socket = 0x0,  
>> vu_cdev = 0x0, vu_fifoinfo = 0x0, vu_yield = 0}, v_hashlist = {le_next =  
>> 0x0,
>>    le_prev = 0xc3d09da0}, v_hash = 2, v_cache_src = {lh_first = 0x0},  
>> v_cache_dst = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11af8}, v_dd = 0x0,  
>> v_cstart = 0,
>>  v_lasta = 0, v_lastw = 0, v_clen = 0, v_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name =  
>> 0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_type = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_flags = 70844416,
>>      lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness =  
>> 0x0}}, lk_interlock = 0xc0956510, lk_flags = 262208, lk_sharecount = 0,
>>    lk_waitcount = 0, lk_exclusivecount = 1, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 51,  
>> lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock = 0x0}, v_interlock =  
>> {lock_object = {
>>      lo_name = 0xc086fb51 "vnode interlock", lo_type = 0xc086fb51 "vnode 
>> interlock", lo_flags = 16973824, lo_witness_data = {lod_list =  
>> {stqe_next = 0x0},
>>        lod_witness = 0x0}}, mtx_lock = 3283295520, mtx_recurse = 0},  
>> v_vnlock = 0xc3d11b20, v_holdcnt = 2, v_usecount = 0, v_iflag = 0,  
>> v_vflag = 1,
>>  v_writecount = 0, v_freelist = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0x0},  
>> v_bufobj = {bo_mtx = 0xc3d11b50, bo_clean = {bv_hd = {tqh_first =  
>> 0xe3d02594,
>>        tqh_last = 0xe3d025cc}, bv_root = 0xe3d02594, bv_cnt = 1},  
>> bo_dirty = {bv_hd = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11b9c}, bv_root =  
>> 0x0,
>>      bv_cnt = 0}, bo_numoutput = 0, bo_flag = 0, bo_ops = 0xc091ae00,  
>> bo_bsize = 16384, bo_object = 0xc106183c, bo_synclist = {le_next = 0x0,
>>      le_prev = 0x0}, bo_private = 0xc3d11ac8, __bo_vnode = 0xc3d11ac8},  
>> v_pollinfo = 0x0, v_label = 0x0, v_lockf = 0x0}
>> (kgdb) p rootvnode
>> $4 = (struct vnode *) 0x0
>> (kgdb) p *rootvnode
>> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
>> (kgdb)
>>
>>
>> -- 
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 03:18:10PM +0800, Ganbold wrote:
> Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:50:46PM +0800, Ganbold wrote:
>>   
>>> Ganbold wrote:
>>>     
>>>> #3  0xc06ab8b3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at   
>>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2202
>>>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e59b30, flags=524288,   
>>>> td=0xc3b31d20) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>>>> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2939
>>>> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at   
>>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
>>>> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at   
>>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
>>>> #8  0xc08171f5 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at   
>>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
>>>> #9  0xc07fd710 in Xint0x80_syscall () at   
>>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
>>>> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
>>>> (kgdb)
>>>> ..
>>>>       
>>> I was able to reproduce the panic. I plugged in external ZFS/GELI HDD 
>>>  via USB
>>> and used 'zpool import' to import disk and did some 'ls' and then 
>>> used  'zpool export' to umount disk.
>>> Then I detached the disk from desktop and tried to "shutdown -p now". 
>>>  This way panic is
>>> reproduced 2 times.
>>>     
>>
>> Are we sure that the problem isn't the well-known "do not yank a device
>> out from underneathe the rest of the OS" problem, e.g. removing
>> removable devices while filesystems are still mounted?  If so, this
>> problem is very well-known, documented on my Wiki, and work is being
>> done in CURRENT to fix it (official ETA is 2009/02).
>>
>> I see geli(8) has a "detach" option, which you might need to do after
>> the "zpool export", being as the GEOM provider is still attached to
>> the USB HDD.  I would recommend trying that first.
>>   
>
> Thanks for suggestion :) In my zfs_mount and zfs_umount scripts I have:
>
> zfs_mount.sh
> #!/bin/sh
> geli attach -k /root/da0.key /dev/da0s1e
> zpool import tank1
> zpool import tank2
>
> zfs_umount.sh
> #!/bin/sh
> zpool export tank1
> zpool export tank2
> geli detach da0s1e.eli
>
> I hope that answers what you meant :)


Thanks -- it does.  I was worried the detach was missing and might
explain the anomaly.  It doesn't.  I hope others can help...


>>> More info:
>>>
>>> daemon% uname -an
>>> FreeBSD daemon.micom.mng.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #8 
>>>  r185085M: Thu Nov 20 12:50:33 ULAT 2008       
>>> tsgan@daemon.micom.mng.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GDAEMON  i386
>>> daemon%
>>>
>>>
>>> <118>.
>>> <118>Writing entropy file:
>>> <118>.
>>> <118>Terminated
>>> <118>.
>>> <118>Nov 20 14:30:12 daemon syslogd: exiting on signal 15
>>> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 2
>>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...) 
>>>  at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>>> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,2,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
>>> vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
>>> fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8b6
>>> exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
>>> sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
>>> syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
>>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>>> --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp =   
>>> 0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
>>> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
>>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,f2c6bbac,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...) 
>>>  at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>>> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,b,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
>>> vrele(c3d11ac8,c3e6f690,0,0,0,...) at vrele+0x83
>>> fdfree(c3e6f690,c3e8f000,48077bf0,f2c6bc80,c062ccfe,...) at fdfree+0x8c3
>>> exit1(c3e6f690,0,f2c6bd2c,c0817245,c3e6f690,...) at exit1+0x5e9
>>> sys_exit(c3e6f690,f2c6bcfc,4,c3e6f690,f2c6bd2c,...) at sys_exit+0x1d
>>> syscall(f2c6bd38) at syscall+0x335
>>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>>> --- syscall (1, FreeBSD ELF32, sys_exit), eip = 0x4810ed2f, esp =   
>>> 0xbfbfe6bc, ebp = 0xbfbfe6c8 ---
>>> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `vnlru' to stop...done
>>> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...done
>>> Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...
>>> Syncing disks, vnodes remaining...2 1 0 0 done
>>> All buffers synced.
>>> rootvp 0xc3d11ac8 v_usecount 1
>>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55ba8,c06abb23,c086faa8,c3d11ac8,...) 
>>>  at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>>> kdb_backtrace(c086faa8,c3d11ac8,1,c3b31d20,eef55ba8,...) at   
>>> kdb_backtrace+0x29
>>> vrele(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vrele+0x83
>>> dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x491
>>> vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
>>> boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
>>> reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
>>> syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
>>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>>> --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp =   
>>> 0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
>>> panic: vput: negative ref cnt
>>> cpuid = 0
>>> KDB: stack backtrace:
>>> db_trace_self_wrapper(c086b1ee,eef55b68,c062bd39,c08832ea,0,...) at   
>>> db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
>>> kdb_backtrace(c08832ea,0,c086fac1,eef55b74,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
>>> panic(c086fac1,eef55ba8,c06abcd0,c3d11ac8,eef55b90,...) at panic+0x119
>>> vput(c3d11ac8,2,eef55bf0,c3b31d20,0,...) at vput+0xf3
>>> dounmount(c3e56b30,80000,c3b31d20,e3b61aec,0,...) at dounmount+0x4a6
>>> vfs_unmountall(c0869007,0,c086906b,117,eef55c50,...) at vfs_unmountall+0x33
>>> boot(c3b31d20,8,0,fffffffe,c3b31d20,...) at boot+0x444
>>> reboot(c3b31d20,eef55cfc,4,8048290,9e7c9054,...) at reboot+0x67
>>> syscall(eef55d38) at syscall+0x335
>>> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
>>> --- syscall (55, FreeBSD ELF32, reboot), eip = 0x8050bb3, esp =   
>>> 0xbfbfe8ec, ebp = 0xbfbfe9b8 ---
>>> Uptime: 7m3s
>>> Physical memory: 1013 MB
>>> Dumping 54 MB: 39 23 7
>>> (kgdb) where
>>> #0  doadump () at pcpu.h:196
>>> #1  0xc062ba67 in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:418
>>> #2  0xc062bd72 in panic (fmt=Variable "fmt" is not available.
>>> ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574
>>> #3  0xc06ab8e3 in vput (vp=0xc3d11ac8) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2211
>>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, 
>>> td=0xc3b31d20)  at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>>> #5  0xc06aa493 in vfs_unmountall () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:2948
>>> #6  0xc062b7f4 in boot (howto=16392) at   
>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:400
>>> #7  0xc062bc17 in reboot (td=0xc3b31d20, uap=0xeef55cfc) at   
>>> /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:172
>>> #8  0xc0817245 in syscall (frame=0xeef55d38) at   
>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1090
>>> #9  0xc07fd760 in Xint0x80_syscall () at   
>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:255
>>> #10 0x00000033 in ?? ()
>>> (kgdb) frame 4
>>> #4  0xc06a69e6 in dounmount (mp=0xc3e56b30, flags=524288, 
>>> td=0xc3b31d20)  at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_mount.c:1288
>>> 1288            vput(fsrootvp);
>>> (kgdb) p *mp
>>> $1 = {mnt_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f234 "vfslock", 
>>> lo_type =  0xc086f234 "vfslock", lo_flags = 70844416, lo_witness_data 
>>> = {lod_list = {
>>>          stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, lk_interlock =   
>>> 0xc0956fa8, lk_flags = 1310720, lk_sharecount = 0, lk_waitcount = 0,  
>>> lk_exclusivecount = 1,
>>>    lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock 
>>> =  0x0}, mnt_mtx = {lock_object = {lo_name = 0xc086f223 "struct mount 
>>> mtx",
>>>      lo_type = 0xc086f223 "struct mount mtx", lo_flags = 16973824,   
>>> lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, 
>>>  mtx_lock = 4,
>>>    mtx_recurse = 0}, mnt_gen = 1, mnt_list = {tqe_next = 0x0, 
>>> tqe_prev = 0xc091c224}, mnt_op = 0xc0926080, mnt_vfc = 0xc0926040, 
>>> mnt_vnodecovered = 0x0,
>>>  mnt_syncer = 0x0, mnt_ref = 736, mnt_nvnodelist = {tqh_first =   
>>> 0xc3d11ac8, tqh_last = 0xc67fd350}, mnt_nvnodelistsize = 736,   
>>> mnt_writeopcount = 1,
>>>  mnt_kern_flag = 553648137, mnt_flag = 20480, mnt_noasync = 0, 
>>> mnt_opt = 0xc3c4cc90, mnt_optnew = 0x0, mnt_maxsymlinklen = 120, 
>>> mnt_stat = {
>>>    f_version = 537068824, f_type = 1, f_flags = 20480, f_bsize = 
>>> 2048,  f_iosize = 16384, f_blocks = 2538519, f_bfree = 2339932, 
>>> f_bavail =  2136851,
>>>    f_files = 659454, f_ffree = 651413, f_syncwrites = 0, 
>>> f_asyncwrites = 0, f_syncreads = 0, f_asyncreads = 0, f_spare = {0, 
>>> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0},
>>>    f_namemax = 255, f_owner = 0, f_fsid = {val = {1149777033,   
>>> 1944990175}}, f_charspare = '\0' <repeats 79 times>,
>>>    f_fstypename = "ufs", '\0' <repeats 12 times>, f_mntfromname =   
>>> "/dev/ad4s1a", '\0' <repeats 76 times>, f_mntonname = "/", '\0' 
>>> <repeats  86 times>},
>>>  mnt_cred = 0xc3e52700, mnt_data = 0xc3e52600, mnt_time = 1227162073, 
>>>  mnt_iosize_max = 131072, mnt_export = 0x0, mnt_label = 0x0,
>>>  mnt_hashseed = 2358371174, mnt_markercnt = 0, mnt_holdcnt = 0,   
>>> mnt_holdcntwaiters = 0, mnt_secondary_writes = 0,   
>>> mnt_secondary_accwrites = 2874,
>>>  mnt_gjprovider = 0x0, mnt_explock = {lk_object = {lo_name = 
>>> 0xc086f23c  "explock", lo_type = 0xc086f23c "explock", lo_flags = 
>>> 70844416,  lo_witness_data = {
>>>        lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness = 0x0}}, 
>>> lk_interlock = 0xc0956fc0, lk_flags = 0, lk_sharecount = 0, 
>>> lk_waitcount = 0,
>>>    lk_exclusivecount = 0, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 0, lk_lockholder =  
>>> 0xffffffff, lk_newlock = 0x0}}
>>> (kgdb) p fsrootvp             $2 = (struct vnode *) 0xc3d11ac8
>>> (kgdb) p *fsrootvp
>>> $3 = {v_type = VDIR, v_tag = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", v_op = 0xc0926280, 
>>> v_data  = 0xc3e5d000, v_mount = 0xc3e56b30, v_nmntvnodes = {tqe_next 
>>> = 0xc3d119b4,
>>>    tqe_prev = 0xc3e56b98}, v_un = {vu_mount = 0x0, vu_socket = 0x0,   
>>> vu_cdev = 0x0, vu_fifoinfo = 0x0, vu_yield = 0}, v_hashlist = 
>>> {le_next =  0x0,
>>>    le_prev = 0xc3d09da0}, v_hash = 2, v_cache_src = {lh_first = 0x0}, 
>>>  v_cache_dst = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11af8}, v_dd = 0x0,  
>>> v_cstart = 0,
>>>  v_lasta = 0, v_lastw = 0, v_clen = 0, v_lock = {lk_object = {lo_name 
>>> =  0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_type = 0xc0864e51 "ufs", lo_flags = 70844416,
>>>      lo_witness_data = {lod_list = {stqe_next = 0x0}, lod_witness =   
>>> 0x0}}, lk_interlock = 0xc0956510, lk_flags = 262208, lk_sharecount = 
>>> 0,
>>>    lk_waitcount = 0, lk_exclusivecount = 1, lk_prio = 80, lk_timo = 
>>> 51,  lk_lockholder = 0xc3b31d20, lk_newlock = 0x0}, v_interlock =   
>>> {lock_object = {
>>>      lo_name = 0xc086fb51 "vnode interlock", lo_type = 0xc086fb51 
>>> "vnode interlock", lo_flags = 16973824, lo_witness_data = {lod_list = 
>>>  {stqe_next = 0x0},
>>>        lod_witness = 0x0}}, mtx_lock = 3283295520, mtx_recurse = 0},  
>>> v_vnlock = 0xc3d11b20, v_holdcnt = 2, v_usecount = 0, v_iflag = 0,   
>>> v_vflag = 1,
>>>  v_writecount = 0, v_freelist = {tqe_next = 0x0, tqe_prev = 0x0},   
>>> v_bufobj = {bo_mtx = 0xc3d11b50, bo_clean = {bv_hd = {tqh_first =   
>>> 0xe3d02594,
>>>        tqh_last = 0xe3d025cc}, bv_root = 0xe3d02594, bv_cnt = 1},   
>>> bo_dirty = {bv_hd = {tqh_first = 0x0, tqh_last = 0xc3d11b9c}, bv_root 
>>> =  0x0,
>>>      bv_cnt = 0}, bo_numoutput = 0, bo_flag = 0, bo_ops = 0xc091ae00, 
>>>  bo_bsize = 16384, bo_object = 0xc106183c, bo_synclist = {le_next = 
>>> 0x0,
>>>      le_prev = 0x0}, bo_private = 0xc3d11ac8, __bo_vnode = 
>>> 0xc3d11ac8},  v_pollinfo = 0x0, v_label = 0x0, v_lockf = 0x0}
>>> (kgdb) p rootvnode
>>> $4 = (struct vnode *) 0x0
>>> (kgdb) p *rootvnode
>>> Cannot access memory at address 0x0
>>> (kgdb)
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> They are called computers simply because computation is the only   
>>> significant job that has so far been given to them.
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Hi all,

I'm upgrading a FreeBSD amd64 box from 6.2p9 to 7.0p5.
After update the sources amd make world with success, I get this error:

[...]
newfs.lo(.text+0x659): In function `main':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
newfs_msdos.lo(.text+0x13): In function `mklabel':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
restore.lo(.text+0xc60): In function `mkentry':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
restore.lo(.text+0xa6d6): In function `rmthost':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
sysctl.lo(.text+0xf9f): more undefined references to `__mb_sb_limit' follow
tar.lo(.text+0x28f4): In function `read_archive':
: undefined reference to `archive_read_support_compression_program'
tar.lo(.text+0x3a81): In function `yes':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
tar.lo(.text+0x432a): In function `safe_fprintf':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
tar.lo(.text+0x6156): In function `tar_mode_c':
: undefined reference to `archive_write_set_compression_program'
vi.lo(.text+0x2f80): In function `cut':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
vi.lo(.text+0x2fb0): In function `cut':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
vi.lo(.text+0x311e): In function `cut':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
vi.lo(.text+0x5c29): In function `v_key_name':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
vi.lo(.text+0x5cf3): In function `v_key_name':
: undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
vi.lo(.text+0x63b8): more undefined references to `__mb_sb_limit' follow
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/rescue.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

after try the classical kernel compilation ( cd /usr/src && make 
-DINSTALL_NODEBUG KERNCONF=MYKERNEL)

I've not found any related info in the net. Anyones knows about? Last 
week I upgraded two others 6.2 amd boxes without problem.

PD1. I use the "classical" method over "new" binary method because of my 
kernel is customized.
PD2. I use -DINSTALL_NODEBUG flag because of my / partition is so small 
and need to preserve the maximum space.

-- 
Thanks,
Jordi Espasa Clofent

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John, I can ship you one of these machines for your own testing if you  
like.  Or send me a public key and I can give you SSH access to the  
console serial port, whichever would be easiest for you to get what  
you need.

Let me know how I can help.

On Nov 5, 2008, at 3:41 PM, Jo Rhett wrote:
> On Oct 27, 2008, at 8:51 AM, John Baldwin wrote:
>> On Friday 24 October 2008 02:48:13 pm Jo Rhett wrote:
>>> So I booted up by CD and used Fixit mode to switch the system to  
>>> boot
>>> via serial (keyboard detached), but this gathered me even less.
>>>
>>> /boot.config: -Dh
>>> Consoles: internal video/keyboard  serial port
>>> BIOS drive A: is disk0
>>> BIOS drive C: is disk1
>>> BIOS drive D: is disk2
>>> BIOS 639kB/4062144kB available memory
>>>
>>> FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
>>> (root@dessler.cse.b
>>>
>>> Plugging back in the monitor after lockup showed only a single char
>>> more:
>>> (root@dessler.cse.bu
>>
>> This confirms it is hanging in one of the two BIOS routines to  
>> output a
>> character.  One thing you can do would be to boot up and do the  
>> following:
>>
>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=0x400 count=1 of=idt.out
>> dd if=/dev/mem bs=64k iseek=15 count=1 of=bios.out
>>
>> Then place those files some place I can fetch them.
>
> Both files are at http://support.netconsonance.com/freebsd/
>
> FYI, this is notable -- the keyboard does not respond at the boot  
> prompt.  I mean the menu where you can escape to the loader prompt,  
> with the fat freebsd ascii art.  No keyboard presses are observed  
> here.  This is also true for the boot menu on the 6.4 installation  
> CD too.
>
> No problems with 6.2 or 6.3
>
> -- 
> Jo Rhett
> Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source  
> and other randomness
>
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Bartosz Stec wrote:
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> Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box 
> (RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's 
> stable. Unfortunately ZFS crashed next week ;)
> 

How did it crash ?  Just the system went down or did you lose any data ?

I'm planning to build new home server and put all my valuable data on 
ZFS but after reading all the mailing lists I'm not so sure about it. :(

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Hi,

I'm running my RELENG_7 kernel with WITNESS and there's always a LOR
when pf(4) is enabled:

lock order reversal:
 1st 0xc09ca828 ifnet (ifnet) @ /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:849
 2nd 0xc45d604c pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @ /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf_if.c:916
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,fb671764,c0630e8e,c08e1c96,c45d604c,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c08e1c96,c45d604c,c45d3b1c,c45d3b1c,c45d379e,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
witness_checkorder(c45d604c,9,c45d379e,394,c08e9058,...) at witness_checkorder+0x6de
_mtx_lock_flags(c45d604c,0,c45d379e,394,fb6717dc,...) at _mtx_lock_flags+0xbc
pfi_attach_group_event(0,c4450000,c08e9058,374,c44a920c,...) at pfi_attach_group_event+0x4e
if_addgroup(c441c000,c08f70d6,4,0,0,...) at if_addgroup+0x2c7
if_clone_createif(0,0,c08e9563,87,0,...) at if_clone_createif+0x81
if_clone_create(fb671943,4,0,44,180,...) at if_clone_create+0x8c
tunclone(0,c461e400,fb671943,4,fb67195c,...) at tunclone+0x17a
devfs_lookup(fb6719d0,fb6719d0,fb671b7c,c418de04,2,...) at devfs_lookup+0x50e
VOP_LOOKUP_APV(c0928f40,fb6719d0,c412f230,c08e77ef,2a9,...) at VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0xa5
lookup(fb671b7c,c08e77ef,c6,bf,c461e92c,...) at lookup+0x58e
namei(fb671b7c,c412f230,fb671a74,246,c0983774,...) at namei+0x34b
vn_open_cred(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c461e400,c4460558,...) at vn_open_cred+0x2c9
vn_open(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c4460558,c05e807d,...) at vn_open+0x33
kern_open(c412f230,80a0f18,0,3,808ecfa,...) at kern_open+0xe7
open(c412f230,fb671cfc,c,c08e28c3,c092c0b8,...) at open+0x30
syscall(fb671d38) at syscall+0x2b3
Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
--- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x2835a65b, esp = 0xbfbfeafc, ebp = 0xbfbfeb38 ---


And there are these LORs when I shut down my external firewire attached
disk:

fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 1 (me)
uma_zalloc_arg: zone "16" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
exclusive sleep mutex sbp r = 0 (0xc402f7ac) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:2203
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,f93a931c,c0630007,c08dfb5a,f93a9330,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c08dfb5a,f93a9330,4,1,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
witness_warn(5,0,c0901ae5,c08c59ce,86,...) at witness_warn+0x1d7
uma_zalloc_arg(c1472960,0,2,2,f93a93e0,...) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x34
malloc(b,c09308c0,2,c05be59a,c08d7a2c,...) at malloc+0xd2
notify(c4150a00,4,c08d7856,34f,c05be4ea,...) at notify+0x49
destroy_devl(f93a9410,c046a6ce,c4150a00,0,c3f18370,...) at destroy_devl+0x236
destroy_dev(c4150a00,0,c3f18370,c3f69000,f93a9690,...) at destroy_dev+0x10
passcleanup(c3f69000,c08b50c7,0,0,0,...) at passcleanup+0x2e
camperiphfree(c3f69000,0,f93a96b0,c04568dd,c3f69000,...) at camperiphfree+0xbb
cam_periph_invalidate(c3f69000,c0983774,f93a96e4,c046a5ea,c3f69000,...) at cam_periph_invalidate+0x3e
cam_periph_async(c3f69000,100,c418a260,0,f93a96e0,...) at cam_periph_async+0x2d
passasync(c3f69000,100,c418a260,0,c42f8c00,...) at passasync+0xca
xpt_async_bcast(0,4,c08b53c5,11a5,c404d280,...) at xpt_async_bcast+0x32
xpt_async(100,c418a260,0,89b,0,...) at xpt_async+0x194
sbp_cam_detach_sdev(c402f45c,0,c402f418,0,f93a982c,...) at sbp_cam_detach_sdev+0xa4
sbp_cam_detach_target(c14729a8,c14729a8,c08250c6,c7373b40,10,...) at sbp_cam_detach_target+0x5b
sbp_post_explore(c402f400,f93a9ce8,f93a9ce4,675,0,...) at sbp_post_explore+0xa2
fw_bus_probe_thread(c404f000,f93a9d38,c08d8d0f,31c,c402b570,...) at fw_bus_probe_thread+0x69b
fork_exit(c0513500,c404f000,f93a9d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
--- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xf93a9d70, ebp = 0 ---
(da0:sbp0:0:0:0): lost device
(da0:sbp0:0:0:0): removing device entry
cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device pass1 rejected
passasync: Unable to attach new device due to status 0x6: CCB request was invalid
cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device da1 rejected
daasync: Unable to attach to new device due to status 0x6
fwohci0: BUS reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
uma_zalloc_arg: zone "16" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
exclusive sleep mutex sbp r = 0 (0xc402f7ac) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:2203
KDB: stack backtrace:
db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,f93a931c,c0630007,c08dfb5a,f93a9330,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
kdb_backtrace(c08dfb5a,f93a9330,4,1,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
witness_warn(5,0,c0901ae5,c08c59ce,86,...) at witness_warn+0x1d7
uma_zalloc_arg(c1472960,0,2,2,f93a93e0,...) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x34
malloc(b,c09308c0,2,c05be59a,c08d7a2c,...) at malloc+0xd2
notify(c4150d00,4,c08d7856,34f,c05be4ea,...) at notify+0x49
destroy_devl(f93a9410,c046a6ce,c4150d00,0,c3f18370,...) at destroy_devl+0x236
destroy_dev(c4150d00,0,c3f18370,c42c6700,f93a9690,...) at destroy_dev+0x10
passcleanup(c42c6700,c08b50c7,c09eff00,4,c08db41b,...) at passcleanup+0x2e
camperiphfree(c42c6700,0,f93a96b0,c04568dd,c42c6700,...) at camperiphfree+0xbb
cam_periph_invalidate(c42c6700,c0983774,f93a96e4,c046a5ea,c42c6700,...) at cam_periph_invalidate+0x3e
cam_periph_async(c42c6700,100,c418a250,0,f93a96e0,...) at cam_periph_async+0x2d
passasync(c42c6700,100,c418a250,0,c42f8a00,...) at passasync+0xca
xpt_async_bcast(0,4,c08b53c5,11a5,c404d280,...) at xpt_async_bcast+0x32
xpt_async(100,c418a250,0,89b,0,...) at xpt_async+0x194
sbp_cam_detach_sdev(c402f4c8,0,c402f484,1,f93a982c,...) at sbp_cam_detach_sdev+0xa4
sbp_cam_detach_target(c14729a8,c14729a8,c08250c6,c44263f0,10,...) at sbp_cam_detach_target+0x5b
sbp_post_explore(c402f400,f93a9ce8,f93a9ce4,675,0,...) at sbp_post_explore+0xa2
fw_bus_probe_thread(c404f000,f93a9d38,c08d8d0f,31c,c402b570,...) at fw_bus_probe_thread+0x69b
fork_exit(c0513500,c404f000,f93a9d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
--- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xf93a9d70, ebp = 0 ---
(da1:sbp0:0:1:0): lost device
(da1:sbp0:0:1:0): removing device entry

I reckon these problems should appear in -STABLE ...

Cheers,
Ulrich Spoerlein
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Ulrich Spoerlein <uspoerlein@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm running my RELENG_7 kernel with WITNESS and there's always a LOR
> when pf(4) is enabled:
>
> lock order reversal:
>  1st 0xc09ca828 ifnet (ifnet) @ /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:849
>  2nd 0xc45d604c pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @
> /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf_if.c:916
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,fb671764,c0630e8e,c08e1c96,c45d604c,...) at
> db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c08e1c96,c45d604c,c45d3b1c,c45d3b1c,c45d379e,...) at
> kdb_backtrace+0x29
> witness_checkorder(c45d604c,9,c45d379e,394,c08e9058,...) at
> witness_checkorder+0x6de
> _mtx_lock_flags(c45d604c,0,c45d379e,394,fb6717dc,...) at
> _mtx_lock_flags+0xbc
> pfi_attach_group_event(0,c4450000,c08e9058,374,c44a920c,...) at
> pfi_attach_group_event+0x4e
> if_addgroup(c441c000,c08f70d6,4,0,0,...) at if_addgroup+0x2c7
> if_clone_createif(0,0,c08e9563,87,0,...) at if_clone_createif+0x81
> if_clone_create(fb671943,4,0,44,180,...) at if_clone_create+0x8c
> tunclone(0,c461e400,fb671943,4,fb67195c,...) at tunclone+0x17a
> devfs_lookup(fb6719d0,fb6719d0,fb671b7c,c418de04,2,...) at
> devfs_lookup+0x50e
> VOP_LOOKUP_APV(c0928f40,fb6719d0,c412f230,c08e77ef,2a9,...) at
> VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0xa5
> lookup(fb671b7c,c08e77ef,c6,bf,c461e92c,...) at lookup+0x58e
> namei(fb671b7c,c412f230,fb671a74,246,c0983774,...) at namei+0x34b
> vn_open_cred(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c461e400,c4460558,...) at
> vn_open_cred+0x2c9
> vn_open(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c4460558,c05e807d,...) at vn_open+0x33
> kern_open(c412f230,80a0f18,0,3,808ecfa,...) at kern_open+0xe7
> open(c412f230,fb671cfc,c,c08e28c3,c092c0b8,...) at open+0x30
> syscall(fb671d38) at syscall+0x2b3
> Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x2835a65b, esp = 0xbfbfeafc,
> ebp = 0xbfbfeb38 ---
>
>
>
Are you using user or group rules in your pf.conf? IIRC there is still a
known LOR in the socket layer with rules using the user or group filters.



-Proto

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I'm writing to encourage an MFC for src/Makefile.inc1, rev. 1.614.

I tested it for the committer.  :-}  And if we're to make use of
amd64 arch "build" machines at $WORK, we'll need that change.
(Symptoms prior to the commit are that 32-bit executables that use
crypto libraries will fail to run because the 32-bit crypto libraries
won't be found.  And since the version of CVS that our developers use
is linked against crypto libraries (as that's the default), that's just
one example of a fairly basic bit of infrastructure that would be
broken.)

It's been in CURRENT for over a week --and as obrien@ noted, we've been
building the libraries all along; the install32 target just didn't
include them, so we weren't installing them.

Please?  Thanks!

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>
> And there are these LORs when I shut down my external firewire attached
> disk:
>
> fwohci0: BUS reset
> fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode
> firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me)
> firewire0: bus manager 1 (me)
> uma_zalloc_arg: zone "16" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
> exclusive sleep mutex sbp r = 0 (0xc402f7ac) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:2203
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,f93a931c,c0630007,c08dfb5a,f93a9330,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c08dfb5a,f93a9330,4,1,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> witness_warn(5,0,c0901ae5,c08c59ce,86,...) at witness_warn+0x1d7
> uma_zalloc_arg(c1472960,0,2,2,f93a93e0,...) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x34
> malloc(b,c09308c0,2,c05be59a,c08d7a2c,...) at malloc+0xd2
> notify(c4150a00,4,c08d7856,34f,c05be4ea,...) at notify+0x49
> destroy_devl(f93a9410,c046a6ce,c4150a00,0,c3f18370,...) at destroy_devl+0x236
> destroy_dev(c4150a00,0,c3f18370,c3f69000,f93a9690,...) at destroy_dev+0x10
> passcleanup(c3f69000,c08b50c7,0,0,0,...) at passcleanup+0x2e
> camperiphfree(c3f69000,0,f93a96b0,c04568dd,c3f69000,...) at camperiphfree+0xbb
> cam_periph_invalidate(c3f69000,c0983774,f93a96e4,c046a5ea,c3f69000,...) at cam_periph_invalidate+0x3e
> cam_periph_async(c3f69000,100,c418a260,0,f93a96e0,...) at cam_periph_async+0x2d
> passasync(c3f69000,100,c418a260,0,c42f8c00,...) at passasync+0xca
> xpt_async_bcast(0,4,c08b53c5,11a5,c404d280,...) at xpt_async_bcast+0x32
> xpt_async(100,c418a260,0,89b,0,...) at xpt_async+0x194
> sbp_cam_detach_sdev(c402f45c,0,c402f418,0,f93a982c,...) at sbp_cam_detach_sdev+0xa4
> sbp_cam_detach_target(c14729a8,c14729a8,c08250c6,c7373b40,10,...) at sbp_cam_detach_target+0x5b
> sbp_post_explore(c402f400,f93a9ce8,f93a9ce4,675,0,...) at sbp_post_explore+0xa2
> fw_bus_probe_thread(c404f000,f93a9d38,c08d8d0f,31c,c402b570,...) at fw_bus_probe_thread+0x69b
> fork_exit(c0513500,c404f000,f93a9d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
> fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
> --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xf93a9d70, ebp = 0 ---
> (da0:sbp0:0:0:0): lost device
> (da0:sbp0:0:0:0): removing device entry
> cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device pass1 rejected
> passasync: Unable to attach new device due to status 0x6: CCB request was invalid
> cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device da1 rejected
> daasync: Unable to attach to new device due to status 0x6
> fwohci0: BUS reset
> fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode
> firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
> firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
> uma_zalloc_arg: zone "16" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
> exclusive sleep mutex sbp r = 0 (0xc402f7ac) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:2203
> KDB: stack backtrace:
> db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,f93a931c,c0630007,c08dfb5a,f93a9330,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> kdb_backtrace(c08dfb5a,f93a9330,4,1,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> witness_warn(5,0,c0901ae5,c08c59ce,86,...) at witness_warn+0x1d7
> uma_zalloc_arg(c1472960,0,2,2,f93a93e0,...) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x34
> malloc(b,c09308c0,2,c05be59a,c08d7a2c,...) at malloc+0xd2
> notify(c4150d00,4,c08d7856,34f,c05be4ea,...) at notify+0x49
> destroy_devl(f93a9410,c046a6ce,c4150d00,0,c3f18370,...) at destroy_devl+0x236
> destroy_dev(c4150d00,0,c3f18370,c42c6700,f93a9690,...) at destroy_dev+0x10
> passcleanup(c42c6700,c08b50c7,c09eff00,4,c08db41b,...) at passcleanup+0x2e
> camperiphfree(c42c6700,0,f93a96b0,c04568dd,c42c6700,...) at camperiphfree+0xbb
> cam_periph_invalidate(c42c6700,c0983774,f93a96e4,c046a5ea,c42c6700,...) at cam_periph_invalidate+0x3e
> cam_periph_async(c42c6700,100,c418a250,0,f93a96e0,...) at cam_periph_async+0x2d
> passasync(c42c6700,100,c418a250,0,c42f8a00,...) at passasync+0xca
> xpt_async_bcast(0,4,c08b53c5,11a5,c404d280,...) at xpt_async_bcast+0x32
> xpt_async(100,c418a250,0,89b,0,...) at xpt_async+0x194
> sbp_cam_detach_sdev(c402f4c8,0,c402f484,1,f93a982c,...) at sbp_cam_detach_sdev+0xa4
> sbp_cam_detach_target(c14729a8,c14729a8,c08250c6,c44263f0,10,...) at sbp_cam_detach_target+0x5b
> sbp_post_explore(c402f400,f93a9ce8,f93a9ce4,675,0,...) at sbp_post_explore+0xa2
> fw_bus_probe_thread(c404f000,f93a9d38,c08d8d0f,31c,c402b570,...) at fw_bus_probe_thread+0x69b
> fork_exit(c0513500,c404f000,f93a9d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
> fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
> --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xf93a9d70, ebp = 0 ---
> (da1:sbp0:0:1:0): lost device
> (da1:sbp0:0:1:0): removing device entry
>
> I reckon these problems should appear in -STABLE ...
>
> Cheers,
> Ulrich Spoerlein
>   
You are able to make this happen simply by powering off your Firewire 
Hard Drive?  What about pulling the cable out?

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martinko wrote:
> Bartosz Stec wrote:
>>>   
>> Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box 
>> (RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's 
>> stable. Unfortunately ZFS crashed next week ;)
>>
> 
> How did it crash ?  Just the system went down or did you lose any data ?

Read my previous email on tuning your system so ZFS doesn't crash.

> I'm planning to build new home server and put all my valuable data on 
> ZFS but after reading all the mailing lists I'm not so sure about it. :(

I've been using it on a shared machine with hundreds of customers for over 8 months.  It has worked 
flawlessly.  People who complain about the crashes often have not searched the net for: "freebsd zfs 
tuning".

Speaking of losing data on a ZFS system, I haven't yet (knock on wood) had a disk failure.  Anyone 
have a disk failure occur and have an easy/hard time replacing the bad disk?

Rudy

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Rudy wrote:
> Speaking of losing data on a ZFS system, I haven't yet (knock on wood) 
> had a disk failure.  Anyone have a disk failure occur and have an 
> easy/hard time replacing the bad disk?

On a system with AHCI, I can literally yank the SATA disks, zfs keeps 
working after a pause, and when I replace them, it rebuilds without 
intervention.

However with the latest 8-current this stopped working and now the 
system crashes when I try this without using "atacontrol". But it seems 
related to ATA code and not ZFS.

- Andrew

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Rudy wrote:

> martinko wrote:
>> Bartosz Stec wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box 
>>> (RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's stable. 
>>> Unfortunately ZFS crashed next week ;)
>>> 
>> 
>> How did it crash ?  Just the system went down or did you lose any data ?
>
> Read my previous email on tuning your system so ZFS doesn't crash.
>
>> I'm planning to build new home server and put all my valuable data on ZFS 
>> but after reading all the mailing lists I'm not so sure about it. :(
>
> I've been using it on a shared machine with hundreds of customers for over 8 
> months.  It has worked flawlessly.  People who complain about the crashes 
> often have not searched the net for: "freebsd zfs tuning".
>
> Speaking of losing data on a ZFS system, I haven't yet (knock on wood) had a 
> disk failure.  Anyone have a disk failure occur and have an easy/hard time 
> replacing the bad disk?

I had a Samsung drive fail on me a few months back. Samsung does not do 
"advance shipment" like Seagate or WD. I had to run a raidz one drive 
short for about a week. The replacement was as simple as you'd expect - 
"zpool replace ..."

Note, I will not be purchasing any more Samsung drives :)


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martinko pisze:
> Bartosz Stec wrote:
>>>   
>> Well it's not simple indeed. I use ZFS on my home (not critical) box 
>> (RAIDZ1). After 4 weeks uptime with varied workload I assumed it's 
>> stable. Unfortunately ZFS crashed next week ;)
>>
>
> How did it crash ?  Just the system went down or did you lose any data ?
>
> I'm planning to build new home server and put all my valuable data on 
> ZFS but after reading all the mailing lists I'm not so sure about it. :(
>
> M.
I didn't loose any data , and system was up (ping and packet filter did 
still working), but filesystem was unaccesible so any kind of process 
which need hdd acces didn't work correctly (like ssh shell or mail 
server). Hard reboot was one and only solution ;)
Feel free to test ZFS for yourself. Good tuning should made it stable 
enough for you. You also shouldn't worry for your data, ZFS problems are 
mainly related to kernel memory exhaustion, not a data corruption 
(Backups however are always recomended before tasks like this). Check 
the ZFS tuning guide http://wiki.freebsd.org/ZFSTuningGuide and good luck.

My home system is i386 with 1,5GB of memory and tuned with:

KERNEL:

    options         KVA_PAGES=512

loader.conf:

    vm.kmem_size="1024M"
    vm.kmem_size_max="1024M"

It's a very simple tuning, just for tests. My system probably needs ARC 
settings or vfs.zfs.prefetch_disable=1 to be (more) stable. I'll do more 
tests, but you probably should do your own - there's no one good tuning 
solution for every system configuration. Just search this list - there's 
a lot of examples and hints. Jeremy Chadwick explained a lot of those 
settings too.

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I'm running 7.0-RELEASE-i386 on Jetway's NC92-N230 mainboard. The board has
one integrated RTL8168/8111 gigabit NIC as well as an expansion board with
three RTL8168/8111 NICs. Why would the three NICs work while the onboard NIC
does not? 

none2@pci0:1:0:0:       class=0x020000 card=0x816810ec chip=0x816810ec
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
    device     = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
    class      = network
    subclass   = ethernet
re0@pci0:2:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
    device     = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
    class      = network
    subclass   = ethernet
re1@pci0:2:6:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
    device     = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
    class      = network
    subclass   = ethernet
re2@pci0:2:7:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
    device     = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
    class      = network
    subclass   = ethernet


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Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
> On Wed, November 19, 2008 6:05 am, Dominic Fandrey wrote:
>> I have recently been pointed to the u3g driver and gave it a try,
>> because UBSA works very unreliable for me.
>>
>> - In combination with PF-NAT I get kernel panics under high load.
>> - I have to hack some buffer sizes in the driver to get the full
>>   3G speed.
>> - Often my USB-3G stick is not detected, sometimes I spent several
>>   minutes plugging it in and out until it is detected.
>> - It doesn't let me use the card reader in the stick.
>>
>> The u3g driver has NONE of these problems. Everything just works
>> for me.
>>
>> So obviously I would like to have u3g in stable and chose for
>> myself or even take support for devices out of ubsa that work
>> better with u3g.
>> _______________________________________________
> 
> same for me. I'm looking forward to see u3g in STABLE.
> 
> matheus
> 


Do you know about anyone pushing this? I think it's not even in
CURRENT!

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Do any of the firewall products on FreeBSD provide support
for a natted ftp server sitting behind the FreeBSD FW.

Without having the ftp server advertise the external address
in its passive mode packet, in other words have the firewall
product look inside the packet and change the internal address
in the data portion of the packet to the external address.

Thanks,
Steve

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Stephen Clark pisze:
> Do any of the firewall products on FreeBSD provide support
> for a natted ftp server sitting behind the FreeBSD FW.
>
> Without having the ftp server advertise the external address
> in its passive mode packet, in other words have the firewall
> product look inside the packet and change the internal address
> in the data portion of the packet to the external address.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
pf + ftp-proxy

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I wasn't sure where this belongs, so writing here.
This is stable/7 on Intel DG33TL:

$ pciconf -lv
...
atapci0@pci0:3:0:0:     class=0x01018f card=0x610111ab chip=0x610111ab
rev=0xb2 hdr=0x00
    vendor     = 'Marvell Semiconductor (Was: Galileo Technology Ltd)'
    device     = '6101 SATA2 Controller'
    class      = mass storage
    subclass   = ATA
...

This is actually a PATA controller (SATA is provided by ICH9).
lspci is more correct:
$ lspci -v
...
03:00.0 IDE interface: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6101
single-port PATA133 interface (rev b2) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO
PriP PriO])
        Subsystem: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6101 single-port
PATA133 interface
...

ATA driver is also cool:
atapci0: <Marvell 88SX6101 UDMA133 controller>

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I have a couple of boxes here which make daily snapshots
of their filesystems. One just makes a snapshot at 7am, called '7am'
which it does by deleting the previous days and making a new one called
'7am'. The other has snapshots called 'today', 'yesterday', '2daysago'
etc, up to a week. It does this by deleting the '5daysago' snapshot,
renaming all the others to shuffle them down by one, and then creating
a new snapshot for 'today'.

On the box with the snapshots being created every day with the same
name I quickly end up with unavailable snapshots, and the error
message: 'Bad file descriptor'. On the machine which is creating
dailys which do not have the same name this does not happen.

Interesting - and unexpected. The machines are running identical
kernels, being 7-STABLE form a few days ago.

-pete.

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It seems that smbmsg is another victim in "Great SMBus Slave Address
Confusion" - there are two schools: one that think that slave address is
(addr >> 1) and there other thinks that slave address is (addr & ~0x1).
It seems that smb driver in FreeBSD takes the first approach, but smbmsg
is keen on the second.

smbmsg.c:
...
/*
 * The I2C specs say that all addresses below 16 and above or equal
 * 240 are reserved.  Address 0 is the global address, but we do not
 * care for this detail.
 */
#define MIN_I2C_ADDR    16
#define MAX_I2C_ADDR    240
.
.
.
static void
probe_i2c(void)
{
...
        for (addr = MIN_I2C_ADDR; addr < MAX_I2C_ADDR; addr += 2) {
...

And sample output on my machine (releng/7 amd64):
$ mbmsg -p
Probing for devices on /dev/smb0:
Device @0x44: rw
Device @0x50: rw
Device @0x52: rw
Device @0x80: rw
Device @0x88: w
Device @0xc4: rw
Device @0xd0: rw
Device @0xd2: rw

Now:

(0x44 << 1) & 0xff == (0xc4 << 1) & 0xff = 0x88 (looks like RTC)
(0x50 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd0 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa0 (well known SPD addr)
(0x52 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd2 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa4 (well known SPD addr)
(0x80 << 1) & 0xff = 0x0 (mentioned above "global address")
(0x88 << 1) & 0xff == MIN_I2C_ADDR = 0x10 (something weird)

I think that this demonstrates that FreeBSD smb driver expects slave
addresses in range 0x0-0x7f.

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:39:20 +0000 Pete French
<petefrench@ticketswitch.com> wrote about Curious failure of ZFS snapshots:

PF> On the box with the snapshots being created every day with the same
PF> name I quickly end up with unavailable snapshots, and the error
PF> message: 'Bad file descriptor'. On the machine which is creating
PF> dailys which do not have the same name this does not happen.
PF> 
PF> Interesting - and unexpected. The machines are running identical
PF> kernels, being 7-STABLE form a few days ago.

I have a similar setup (creating daily.0 every night and rotating the
rest) for some home directories here...
Right now 3 of them are fine, and one is showing the same problem you
described:

mclane# ll /tank/home/pt/.zfs/
ls: snapshot: Bad file descriptor
total 0


Note that zfs still thinks the snapshots are there:

mclane# zfs list -r tank/home/pt
NAME                    USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
tank/home/pt            454M  1.78T   262M  /tank/home/pt
tank/home/pt@weekly.1  32.5M      -   260M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.6   29.6M      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@weekly.0  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.5   45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.4   28.2M      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.3   28.7M      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.2   27.8M      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.1    374K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.7  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.6  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.5  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.4  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@daily.0   45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.3  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.2  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.1  45.3K      -   262M  -
tank/home/pt@hourly.0  45.3K      -   262M  -


I even do autoamtic incremental backups via send/receive. There are no
errors (up to today) and the snapshots are accessible on the backup
machine.

I am a bit troubled by unaccessible snapshots. Does anyone else here have
the same problem (or can even offer a solution)?


cu
  Gerrit

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Bartosz Stec wrote:
> Stephen Clark pisze:
>> Do any of the firewall products on FreeBSD provide support
>> for a natted ftp server sitting behind the FreeBSD FW.
>>
>> Without having the ftp server advertise the external address
>> in its passive mode packet, in other words have the firewall
>> product look inside the packet and change the internal address
>> in the data portion of the packet to the external address.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steve
>>
> pf + ftp-proxy
> 
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ftp-proxy&sektion=8&manpath=OpenBSD+4.4 
> 
> 
Thanks,

this seems to do the trick on 6.3 - unfortunately it doesn't work on FreeBSD 
4.9. We have a number of installations which are still running on 4.9 :(

Steve

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on 21/11/2008 15:55 Andriy Gapon said the following:
> It seems that smbmsg is another victim in "Great SMBus Slave Address
> Confusion" - there are two schools: one that think that slave address is
> (addr >> 1) and there other thinks that slave address is (addr & ~0x1).
> It seems that smb driver in FreeBSD takes the first approach, but smbmsg
> is keen on the second.

Patch and new output:
diff --git a/usr.sbin/smbmsg/smbmsg.c b/usr.sbin/smbmsg/smbmsg.c
index 425b782..f2b8139 100644
--- a/usr.sbin/smbmsg/smbmsg.c
+++ b/usr.sbin/smbmsg/smbmsg.c
@@ -68,8 +68,8 @@ static unsigned short oword, iword;
  * 240 are reserved.  Address 0 is the global address, but we do not
  * care for this detail.
  */
-#define MIN_I2C_ADDR	16
-#define MAX_I2C_ADDR	240
+#define MIN_I2C_ADDR	8
+#define MAX_I2C_ADDR	120

 static int	do_io(void);
 static int	getnum(const char *s);
@@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ probe_i2c(void)

 	printf("Probing for devices on %s:\n", dev);

-	for (addr = MIN_I2C_ADDR; addr < MAX_I2C_ADDR; addr += 2) {
+	for (addr = MIN_I2C_ADDR; addr < MAX_I2C_ADDR; addr++) {
 		c.slave = addr;
 		flags = 0;
 		if (ioctl(fd, SMB_RECVB, &c) != -1)

$ smbmsg -p
Probing for devices on /dev/smb0:
Device @0x08: w
Device @0x44: rw
Device @0x50: rw
Device @0x52: rw
Device @0x69: rw

The only thing I am hesitant about - which address format is to present
to user? (addr >> 1) as above or (addr & ~0x1) as conventional for linux
folk.

-- 
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:15:18 +0100 Gerrit K=FChn
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GK> Right now 3 of them are fine, and one is showing the same problem you
GK> described:
GK>=20
GK> mclane# ll /tank/home/pt/.zfs/
GK> ls: snapshot: Bad file descriptor
GK> total 0

[...]

One addition: I just tried to unmount tank/home/pt (in the hope the after
a remount everything would be fine again). This paniced the kernel, even
the coredump did not finish. After rebooting everything came back fine,
though. Now the snapshots are accessible again.


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> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:15:18 +0100 Gerrit K=FChn
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> snapshots:
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> GK> Right now 3 of them are fine, and one is showing the same =20
> problem you
> GK> described:
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>
> [...]
>
> One addition: I just tried to unmount tank/home/pt (in the hope the =20=

> after
> a remount everything would be fine again). This paniced the kernel, =20=

> even
> the coredump did not finish. After rebooting everything came back =20
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I've experienced this problem in the past : =
http://markmail.org/message/tmle6lqmkfit46ho

But the machine I was having these issues are no longer operational so =20=

I can't test again.
I hope the new ZFS import will fix this...


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ND> I've experienced this problem in the past :
ND> http://markmail.org/message/tmle6lqmkfit46ho

Yes, that looks quite the same (even the panic).

ND> But the machine I was having these issues are no longer operational
ND> so I can't test again.
ND> I hope the new ZFS import will fix this...

I'm a bit worried about moving from -stable to -current with this machine.
Does anyone know (Pawel? :-) when the patches will arrive in -stable, and
if this issue is expected to be fixed then?


cu
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>
> Speaking of losing data on a ZFS system, I haven't yet (knock on wood) had a 
> disk failure.  Anyone have a disk failure occur and have an easy/hard time 
> replacing the bad disk?

I had a bad cable and also a bad disk.  zpool scrub would whine about
checksum errors, but I did NOT lose any data.  Replaced the drive
and still got the checksum errors.  Replaced the cable, and it's 
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> GK>
> GK> mclane# ll /tank/home/pt/.zfs/
> GK> ls: snapshot: Bad file descriptor
> GK> total 0

Which shell are you using?  I've seen quite a few=20
different "non-existent"/"invalid directory" errors when using tcsh to=20
navigate through the .zfs/ hierarchy.  Can do "cd ..", "ls .", or tab=20
completion when in anything under .zfs/

Using sh or zsh, these errors don't occur.

Just curious if this is the same kind of thing.

=2D-=20
=46reddie Cash
fjwcash@gmail.com

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As Andriy Gapon wrote:

> Now:
> 
> (0x44 << 1) & 0xff == (0xc4 << 1) & 0xff = 0x88 (looks like RTC)
> (0x50 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd0 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa0 (well known SPD addr)
> (0x52 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd2 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa4 (well known SPD addr)
> (0x80 << 1) & 0xff = 0x0 (mentioned above "global address")
> (0x88 << 1) & 0xff == MIN_I2C_ADDR = 0x10 (something weird)
> 
> I think that this demonstrates that FreeBSD smb driver expects slave
> addresses in range 0x0-0x7f.

Well, the machine I've been writing smbmsg(8) on has been a Sun E450 I
don't have access to any longer, so I cannot post a live example
output.  However, I could swear the output did make sense on that
machine, i. e. the typical 0xa0 etc. addresses were populated there.
Basically, the 0xa0 example you can find in the EXAMPLES section of
the man page has been tailored after an actual session transcript made
on said Sun E450.  (I'm not completely sure about the 0x70 example
anymore, this could be a hypothetical one.)

So could that be a backend driver issue, so various backend drivers
use different addressing formats? *shudder*

-- 
cheers, J"org               .-.-.   --... ...--   -.. .  DL8DTL

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On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 17:16 +0100, Joerg Wunsch wrote:
> As Andriy Gapon wrote:
> 
> > Now:
> > 
> > (0x44 << 1) & 0xff == (0xc4 << 1) & 0xff = 0x88 (looks like RTC)
> > (0x50 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd0 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa0 (well known SPD addr)
> > (0x52 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd2 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa4 (well known SPD addr)
> > (0x80 << 1) & 0xff = 0x0 (mentioned above "global address")
> > (0x88 << 1) & 0xff == MIN_I2C_ADDR = 0x10 (something weird)
> > 
> > I think that this demonstrates that FreeBSD smb driver expects slave
> > addresses in range 0x0-0x7f.
> 
> Well, the machine I've been writing smbmsg(8) on has been a Sun E450 I
> don't have access to any longer, so I cannot post a live example
> output.  However, I could swear the output did make sense on that
> machine, i. e. the typical 0xa0 etc. addresses were populated there.
> Basically, the 0xa0 example you can find in the EXAMPLES section of
> the man page has been tailored after an actual session transcript made
> on said Sun E450.  (I'm not completely sure about the 0x70 example
> anymore, this could be a hypothetical one.)
> 
> So could that be a backend driver issue, so various backend drivers
> use different addressing formats? *shudder*

I believe this is the case, yes.  See for example, PR kern/100513.  It
appears that some frivers treat the adfdress one way, and others treat
it the other.

Gavin

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Folks having problems with ath on releng7 should try the attached patch.

    Sam


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Index: ieee80211_freebsd.h
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/ncvs/src/sys/net80211/ieee80211_freebsd.h,v
retrieving revision 1.15.2.1
diff -u -r1.15.2.1 ieee80211_freebsd.h
--- ieee80211_freebsd.h	11 Nov 2007 17:44:35 -0000	1.15.2.1
+++ ieee80211_freebsd.h	21 Nov 2008 03:32:42 -0000
@@ -197,9 +197,10 @@
 #define	M_LINK0		M_PROTO1		/* WEP requested */
 #define	M_PWR_SAV	M_PROTO4		/* bypass PS handling */
 #define	M_MORE_DATA	M_PROTO5		/* more data frames to follow */
-#define	M_FF		0x20000			/* fast frame */
-#define	M_TXCB		0x40000			/* do tx complete callback */
-#define	M_80211_TX	(0x60000|M_PROTO1|M_WME_AC_MASK|M_PROTO4|M_PROTO5)
+#define	M_FF		M_PROTO6		/* fast frame */
+#define	M_TXCB		M_PROTO7		/* do tx complete callback */
+#define	M_80211_TX \
+	(M_LINK0|M_WME_AC_MASK|M_PWR_SAV|M_MORE_DATA|M_FF|M_TXCB)
 
 /* rx path usage */
 #define	M_AMPDU		M_PROTO1		/* A-MPDU processing done */

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Here is the reason in net80211/ieee80211_freebsd.h:

/* tx path usage */
#define M_LINK0         M_PROTO1                /* WEP requested */
#define M_PWR_SAV       M_PROTO4                /* bypass PS handling */
#define M_MORE_DATA     M_PROTO5                /* more data frames to 
follow */
#define M_FF            0x20000                 /* fast frame */
#define M_TXCB          0x40000                 /* do tx complete 
callback */
#define M_80211_TX      (0x60000|M_PROTO1|M_WME_AC_MASK|M_PROTO4|M_PROTO5)

M_FF and M_TXCB overlay M_PROMISC and M_NOFREE.  Please try reverting 
your change and then set M_FF to M_PROTO6 and M_TXCB M_PROTO7.

    Sam

Guy Coleman wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR kern/123552; it has been noted by GNATS.
>
> From: Guy Coleman <gtc@mm.st>
> To: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
> Cc:  
> Subject: Re: kern/123552: [ath] [panic] kernel panic during network activity
>  on ath0
> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:51:37 +0000
>
>  I've found that partially reverting revs 1.181.2.2 and 1.181.2.4 of 
>  sys/net/bpf.c stops the panic from happening. I have no idea why.
>  
>  --- bpf.c.bak	2008-11-09 19:46:55.000000000 +0000
>  +++ bpf.c	2008-11-16 22:37:10.000000000 +0000
>  @@ -85,6 +85,8 @@
>  
>    #define PRINET  26			/* interruptible */
>  
>  +#define	M_SKIP_BPF	M_SKIP_FIREWALL
>  +
>    /*
>     * bpf_iflist is a list of BPF interface structures, each 
>  corresponding to a
>     * specific DLT.  The same network interface might have several BPF 
>  interface
>  @@ -653,7 +655,7 @@
>    			mc->m_pkthdr.rcvif = ifp;
>    		/* Set M_PROMISC for outgoing packets to be discarded. */
>    		if (d->bd_direction == BPF_D_INOUT)
>  -			m->m_flags |= M_PROMISC;
>  +			m->m_flags |= M_SKIP_BPF;
>    	} else
>    		mc = NULL;
>  
>  @@ -1358,9 +1360,8 @@
>    	int gottime;
>    	struct timeval tv;
>  
>  -	/* Skip outgoing duplicate packets. */
>  -	if ((m->m_flags & M_PROMISC) != 0 && m->m_pkthdr.rcvif == NULL) {
>  -		m->m_flags &= ~M_PROMISC;
>  +	if (m->m_flags & M_SKIP_BPF) {
>  +		m->m_flags &= ~M_SKIP_BPF;
>    		return;
>    	}
>  
>  @@ -1413,9 +1414,8 @@
>    	int gottime;
>    	struct timeval tv;
>  
>  -	/* Skip outgoing duplicate packets. */
>  -	if ((m->m_flags & M_PROMISC) != 0 && m->m_pkthdr.rcvif == NULL) {
>  -		m->m_flags &= ~M_PROMISC;
>  +	if (m->m_flags & M_SKIP_BPF) {
>  +		m->m_flags &= ~M_SKIP_BPF;
>    		return;
>    	}
>  
>  
>
>
>   



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on 21/11/2008 18:48 Gavin Atkinson said the following:
> On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 17:16 +0100, Joerg Wunsch wrote:
>> As Andriy Gapon wrote:
>>
>>> Now:
>>>
>>> (0x44 << 1) & 0xff == (0xc4 << 1) & 0xff = 0x88 (looks like RTC)
>>> (0x50 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd0 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa0 (well known SPD addr)
>>> (0x52 << 1) & 0xff == (0xd2 << 1) & 0xff = 0xa4 (well known SPD addr)
>>> (0x80 << 1) & 0xff = 0x0 (mentioned above "global address")
>>> (0x88 << 1) & 0xff == MIN_I2C_ADDR = 0x10 (something weird)
>>>
>>> I think that this demonstrates that FreeBSD smb driver expects slave
>>> addresses in range 0x0-0x7f.
>> Well, the machine I've been writing smbmsg(8) on has been a Sun E450 I
>> don't have access to any longer, so I cannot post a live example
>> output.  However, I could swear the output did make sense on that
>> machine, i. e. the typical 0xa0 etc. addresses were populated there.
>> Basically, the 0xa0 example you can find in the EXAMPLES section of
>> the man page has been tailored after an actual session transcript made
>> on said Sun E450.  (I'm not completely sure about the 0x70 example
>> anymore, this could be a hypothetical one.)
>>
>> So could that be a backend driver issue, so various backend drivers
>> use different addressing formats? *shudder*
> 
> I believe this is the case, yes.  See for example, PR kern/100513.  It
> appears that some frivers treat the adfdress one way, and others treat
> it the other.

Darn it! Thank you!
I also started to have doubts and almost came to conclusion that this is
6.X vs 7.X issue, because on my 6.X machine everything worked
reasonably. But I now see that my 6.X machine has nfsmb and 7.X machines
have ichsmb.

PR link for convenience:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=100513

We have to settle to one addressing scheme or the other.


-- 
Andriy Gapon

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On Thu, 20.11.2008 at 17:56:07 -0500, Michael Proto wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Ulrich Spoerlein <uspoerlein@gmail.com>wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm running my RELENG_7 kernel with WITNESS and there's always a LOR
> > when pf(4) is enabled:
> >
> > lock order reversal:
> >  1st 0xc09ca828 ifnet (ifnet) @ /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:849
> >  2nd 0xc45d604c pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @
> > /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf_if.c:916
> > KDB: stack backtrace:
> > db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,fb671764,c0630e8e,c08e1c96,c45d604c,...) at
> > db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> > kdb_backtrace(c08e1c96,c45d604c,c45d3b1c,c45d3b1c,c45d379e,...) at
> > kdb_backtrace+0x29
> > witness_checkorder(c45d604c,9,c45d379e,394,c08e9058,...) at
> > witness_checkorder+0x6de
> > _mtx_lock_flags(c45d604c,0,c45d379e,394,fb6717dc,...) at
> > _mtx_lock_flags+0xbc
> > pfi_attach_group_event(0,c4450000,c08e9058,374,c44a920c,...) at
> > pfi_attach_group_event+0x4e
> > if_addgroup(c441c000,c08f70d6,4,0,0,...) at if_addgroup+0x2c7
> > if_clone_createif(0,0,c08e9563,87,0,...) at if_clone_createif+0x81
> > if_clone_create(fb671943,4,0,44,180,...) at if_clone_create+0x8c
> > tunclone(0,c461e400,fb671943,4,fb67195c,...) at tunclone+0x17a
> > devfs_lookup(fb6719d0,fb6719d0,fb671b7c,c418de04,2,...) at
> > devfs_lookup+0x50e
> > VOP_LOOKUP_APV(c0928f40,fb6719d0,c412f230,c08e77ef,2a9,...) at
> > VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0xa5
> > lookup(fb671b7c,c08e77ef,c6,bf,c461e92c,...) at lookup+0x58e
> > namei(fb671b7c,c412f230,fb671a74,246,c0983774,...) at namei+0x34b
> > vn_open_cred(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c461e400,c4460558,...) at
> > vn_open_cred+0x2c9
> > vn_open(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c4460558,c05e807d,...) at vn_open+0x33
> > kern_open(c412f230,80a0f18,0,3,808ecfa,...) at kern_open+0xe7
> > open(c412f230,fb671cfc,c,c08e28c3,c092c0b8,...) at open+0x30
> > syscall(fb671d38) at syscall+0x2b3
> > Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> > --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x2835a65b, esp = 0xbfbfeafc,
> > ebp = 0xbfbfeb38 ---
> >
> >
> Are you using user or group rules in your pf.conf? IIRC there is still a
> known LOR in the socket layer with rules using the user or group filters.

No, I'm aware of the problems with pf(4) and user/group rules. This LOR
is in combination with rules on tun(4) devices, as you can see from the
backtrace. I wonder what tunclone() is doing in there, though.

Cheers,
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On Thu, 20.11.2008 at 15:22:04 -0800, Sean Bruno wrote:
> > And there are these LORs when I shut down my external firewire attached
> > disk:
> >
> > fwohci0: BUS reset
> > fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode
> > firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me)
> > firewire0: bus manager 1 (me)
> > uma_zalloc_arg: zone "16" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
> > exclusive sleep mutex sbp r = 0 (0xc402f7ac) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:2203
> > KDB: stack backtrace:
> > db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,f93a931c,c0630007,c08dfb5a,f93a9330,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> > kdb_backtrace(c08dfb5a,f93a9330,4,1,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> > witness_warn(5,0,c0901ae5,c08c59ce,86,...) at witness_warn+0x1d7
> > uma_zalloc_arg(c1472960,0,2,2,f93a93e0,...) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x34
> > malloc(b,c09308c0,2,c05be59a,c08d7a2c,...) at malloc+0xd2
> > notify(c4150a00,4,c08d7856,34f,c05be4ea,...) at notify+0x49
> > destroy_devl(f93a9410,c046a6ce,c4150a00,0,c3f18370,...) at destroy_devl+0x236
> > destroy_dev(c4150a00,0,c3f18370,c3f69000,f93a9690,...) at destroy_dev+0x10
> > passcleanup(c3f69000,c08b50c7,0,0,0,...) at passcleanup+0x2e
> > camperiphfree(c3f69000,0,f93a96b0,c04568dd,c3f69000,...) at camperiphfree+0xbb
> > cam_periph_invalidate(c3f69000,c0983774,f93a96e4,c046a5ea,c3f69000,...) at cam_periph_invalidate+0x3e
> > cam_periph_async(c3f69000,100,c418a260,0,f93a96e0,...) at cam_periph_async+0x2d
> > passasync(c3f69000,100,c418a260,0,c42f8c00,...) at passasync+0xca
> > xpt_async_bcast(0,4,c08b53c5,11a5,c404d280,...) at xpt_async_bcast+0x32
> > xpt_async(100,c418a260,0,89b,0,...) at xpt_async+0x194
> > sbp_cam_detach_sdev(c402f45c,0,c402f418,0,f93a982c,...) at sbp_cam_detach_sdev+0xa4
> > sbp_cam_detach_target(c14729a8,c14729a8,c08250c6,c7373b40,10,...) at sbp_cam_detach_target+0x5b
> > sbp_post_explore(c402f400,f93a9ce8,f93a9ce4,675,0,...) at sbp_post_explore+0xa2
> > fw_bus_probe_thread(c404f000,f93a9d38,c08d8d0f,31c,c402b570,...) at fw_bus_probe_thread+0x69b
> > fork_exit(c0513500,c404f000,f93a9d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
> > fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
> > --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xf93a9d70, ebp = 0 ---
> > (da0:sbp0:0:0:0): lost device
> > (da0:sbp0:0:0:0): removing device entry
> > cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device pass1 rejected
> > passasync: Unable to attach new device due to status 0x6: CCB request was invalid
> > cam_periph_alloc: attempt to re-allocate valid device da1 rejected
> > daasync: Unable to attach to new device due to status 0x6
> > fwohci0: BUS reset
> > fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode
> > firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
> > firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
> > uma_zalloc_arg: zone "16" with the following non-sleepable locks held:
> > exclusive sleep mutex sbp r = 0 (0xc402f7ac) locked @ /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:2203
> > KDB: stack backtrace:
> > db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,f93a931c,c0630007,c08dfb5a,f93a9330,...) at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> > kdb_backtrace(c08dfb5a,f93a9330,4,1,0,...) at kdb_backtrace+0x29
> > witness_warn(5,0,c0901ae5,c08c59ce,86,...) at witness_warn+0x1d7
> > uma_zalloc_arg(c1472960,0,2,2,f93a93e0,...) at uma_zalloc_arg+0x34
> > malloc(b,c09308c0,2,c05be59a,c08d7a2c,...) at malloc+0xd2
> > notify(c4150d00,4,c08d7856,34f,c05be4ea,...) at notify+0x49
> > destroy_devl(f93a9410,c046a6ce,c4150d00,0,c3f18370,...) at destroy_devl+0x236
> > destroy_dev(c4150d00,0,c3f18370,c42c6700,f93a9690,...) at destroy_dev+0x10
> > passcleanup(c42c6700,c08b50c7,c09eff00,4,c08db41b,...) at passcleanup+0x2e
> > camperiphfree(c42c6700,0,f93a96b0,c04568dd,c42c6700,...) at camperiphfree+0xbb
> > cam_periph_invalidate(c42c6700,c0983774,f93a96e4,c046a5ea,c42c6700,...) at cam_periph_invalidate+0x3e
> > cam_periph_async(c42c6700,100,c418a250,0,f93a96e0,...) at cam_periph_async+0x2d
> > passasync(c42c6700,100,c418a250,0,c42f8a00,...) at passasync+0xca
> > xpt_async_bcast(0,4,c08b53c5,11a5,c404d280,...) at xpt_async_bcast+0x32
> > xpt_async(100,c418a250,0,89b,0,...) at xpt_async+0x194
> > sbp_cam_detach_sdev(c402f4c8,0,c402f484,1,f93a982c,...) at sbp_cam_detach_sdev+0xa4
> > sbp_cam_detach_target(c14729a8,c14729a8,c08250c6,c44263f0,10,...) at sbp_cam_detach_target+0x5b
> > sbp_post_explore(c402f400,f93a9ce8,f93a9ce4,675,0,...) at sbp_post_explore+0xa2
> > fw_bus_probe_thread(c404f000,f93a9d38,c08d8d0f,31c,c402b570,...) at fw_bus_probe_thread+0x69b
> > fork_exit(c0513500,c404f000,f93a9d38) at fork_exit+0xb8
> > fork_trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0x8
> > --- trap 0, eip = 0, esp = 0xf93a9d70, ebp = 0 ---
> > (da1:sbp0:0:1:0): lost device
> > (da1:sbp0:0:1:0): removing device entry
> >
> > I reckon these problems should appear in -STABLE ...

"shouldn't"

> You are able to make this happen simply by powering off your Firewire 
> Hard Drive?  What about pulling the cable out?

Pulling the cable is exactly the same as removing power to the device,
so I dont see how this should make a difference.

It is also very clear, that this code is violating locking restraints
if xpt_async() is calling into uma (as it obviously does).

sys/dev/firewire/sbp.c:
2202         if (sdev->path) {
2203                 SBP_LOCK(sdev->target->sbp);
2204                 xpt_release_devq(sdev->path,
2205                                  sdev->freeze, TRUE);
2206                 sdev->freeze = 0;
2207                 xpt_async(AC_LOST_DEVICE, sdev->path, NULL);
2208                 xpt_free_path(sdev->path);
2209                 sdev->path = NULL;
2210                 SBP_UNLOCK(sdev->target->sbp);
2211         }


Cheers,
Ulrich Spoerlein
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I've got a Tandberg TS 400 LTO-2 drive in a Dell PE1800 which is
wedging ahc(4) after writing about 5 GB of data.

I've attached dmesg.boot.

uname -a:

FreeBSD phoenix.simons-rock.edu 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #0: Fri Oct 17 23:17:38 EDT 2008     root@phoenix.simons-rock.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PHOENIXPCL  i386

I put in a tape, and mt -f /dev/sa0 status gives the following kernel
message:

Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Sending PPR bus_width 1, period 9, offset 7e, ppr_options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Received PPR width 1, period 9, offset 7e,options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: Filtered to width 1, period 9, offset 7e, options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): error 6
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Unretryable Error
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Sending PPR bus_width 1, period 9, offset 7e, ppr_options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Received PPR width 1, period 9, offset 7e,options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: Filtered to width 1, period 9, offset 7e, options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): error 6
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Unretryable Error
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Sending PPR bus_width 1, period 9, offset 7e, ppr_options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Received PPR width 1, period 9, offset 7e,options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel:
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: Filtered to width 1, period 9, offset 7e, options 2
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): error 6
Nov 21 12:06:28 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Unretryable Error
Nov 21 12:07:30 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Sending PPR bus_width 1, period 9, offset 7e, ppr_options 2
Nov 21 12:07:30 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Received PPR width 1, period 9, offset 7e,options 2
Nov 21 12:07:30 phoenix kernel: Filtered to width 1, period 9, offset 7e, options 2
Nov 21 12:07:30 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Retrying Command

but it returns ok at the end:

Mode      Density              Blocksize      bpi      Compression
Current:  0x42                 variable       0        0x1
---------available modes---------
0:        0x42                 variable       0        0x1
1:        0x42                 variable       0        0x1
2:        0x42                 variable       0        0x1
3:        0x42                 variable       0        0x1
---------------------------------
Current Driver State: at rest.
---------------------------------
File Number: 0  Record Number: 0   Residual Count 0

I am using star bs=32k -no-fifo to write to the tape. ahc(4) crashes
regardless of setting the blocksize on the hardware (to 32k) or not:

Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: ahc0: Recovery Initiated
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: ahc0: Dumping Card State while idle, at SEQADDR 0x8
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Card was paused
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: ACCUM = 0x4, SINDEX = 0x67, DINDEX = 0x27, ARG_2 = 0x3b
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: HCNT = 0x0 SCBPTR = 0x0
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCSIPHASE[0x0] SCSISIGI[0x0] ERROR[0x0] SCSIBUSL[0x0]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: LASTPHASE[0x1]:(P_BUSFREE) SCSISEQ[0x12]:(ENAUTOATNP|ENRSELI)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SBLKCTL[0xa]:(SELWIDE|SELBUSB) SCSIRATE[0x0] SEQCTL[0x10]:(FASTMODE)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SEQ_FLAGS[0xc0]:(NO_CDB_SENT|NOT_IDENTIFIED) SSTAT0[0x0]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SSTAT1[0x0] SSTAT2[0x0] SSTAT3[0x0] SIMODE0[0x8]:(ENSWRAP)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SIMODE1[0xa4]:(ENSCSIPERR|ENSCSIRST|ENSELTIMO) SXFRCTL0[0x80]:(DFON)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: DFCNTRL[0x0] DFSTATUS[0x89]:(FIFOEMP|HDONE|PRELOAD_AVAIL)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: STACK: 0x0 0x164 0x179 0x3
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCB count = 254
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Kernel NEXTQSCB = 247
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Card NEXTQSCB = 247
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: QINFIFO entries:
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Waiting Queue entries:
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Disconnected Queue entries: 0:238
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: QOUTFIFO entries:
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Sequencer Free SCB List: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Sequencer SCB Info:
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 0 SCB_CONTROL[0x44]:(DISCONNECTED|DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x67]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCB_LUN[0x0] SCB_TAG[0xee]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 1 SCB_CONTROL[0x0] SCB_SCSIID[0xff]:(TWIN_CHNLB|OID|TWIN_TID)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCB_LUN[0xff]:(SCB_XFERLEN_ODD|LID) SCB_TAG[0xff]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 2 SCB_CONTROL[0x0] SCB_SCSIID[0xff]:(TWIN_CHNLB|OID|TWIN_TID)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCB_LUN[0xff]:(SCB_XFERLEN_ODD|LID) SCB_TAG[0xff]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 3 SCB_CONTROL[0x0] SCB_SCSIID[0xff]:(TWIN_CHNLB|OID|TWIN_TID)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCB_LUN[0xff]:(SCB_XFERLEN_ODD|LID) SCB_TAG[0xff]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 4 SCB_CONTROL[0x0] SCB_SCSIID[0xff]:(TWIN_CHNLB|OID|TWIN_TID)
...
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 31 SCB_CONTROL[0x0] SCB_SCSIID[0xff]:(TWIN_CHNLB|OID|TWIN_TID)
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: SCB_LUN[0xff]:(SCB_XFERLEN_ODD|LID) SCB_TAG[0xff]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Pending list:
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: 238 SCB_CONTROL[0x40]:(DISCENB) SCB_SCSIID[0x67] SCB_LUN[0x0]
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Kernel Free SCB list: 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 248 249 250 251 252 253 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Untagged Q(6): 238
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel:
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Dump Card State Ends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): SCB 0xee - timed out
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: sg[0] - Addr 0x21706000 : Length 4096
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: sg[1] - Addr 0x217aa000 : Length 4096
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: sg[2] - Addr 0x2183b000 : Length 4096
...
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: sg[7] - Addr 0x221f6000 : Length 4096
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Queuing a BDR SCB
Nov 21 08:58:15 phoenix kernel: Infinite interrupt loop, INTSTAT = 0ahc0: Timedout SCBs already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning.
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: Infinite interrupt loop, INTSTAT = 0ahc0: Recovery Initiated
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dump Card State Begins <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: Dumping Card State while idle, at SEQADDR 0x18
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: Card was paused
...
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): no longer in timeout, status = 24b
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: target 6 using 8bit transfers
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: target 6 using asynchronous transfers
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Command timed out
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): error 5
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: (sa0:ahc0:0:6:0): Retries Exausted
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: Timedout SCBs already complete. Interrupts may not be functioning.
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Sending PPR bus_width 1, period 9, offset 7e, ppr_options 2
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: (ahc0:A:6:0): Received PPR width 1, period 9, offset 7e,options 2
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: Filtered to width 1, period 9, offset 7e, options 2
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: target 6 using 16bit transfers
Nov 21 08:58:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: target 6 synchronous at 80.0MHz DT, offset = 0x7e
Nov 21 09:02:17 phoenix kernel: ahc0: Recovery Initiated
...
until shutdown.

A shutdown -r will still leave the controller wedged until a fullblow
powercycle is done without the tape in the drive.

Reading from tapes work just fine though. Also this identical hardware
work just fine under Linux.

Please help. Thanks!
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On Friday 21 November 2008 18:39:33 Ulrich Spoerlein wrote:
> On Thu, 20.11.2008 at 17:56:07 -0500, Michael Proto wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Ulrich Spoerlein 
<uspoerlein@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm running my RELENG_7 kernel with WITNESS and there's always a LOR
> > > when pf(4) is enabled:
> > >
> > > lock order reversal:
> > >  1st 0xc09ca828 ifnet (ifnet) @ /usr/src/sys/net/if.c:849
> > >  2nd 0xc45d604c pf task mtx (pf task mtx) @
> > > /usr/src/sys/modules/pf/../../contrib/pf/net/pf_if.c:916
> > > KDB: stack backtrace:
> > > db_trace_self_wrapper(c08df797,fb671764,c0630e8e,c08e1c96,c45d604c,...)
> > > at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26
> > > kdb_backtrace(c08e1c96,c45d604c,c45d3b1c,c45d3b1c,c45d379e,...) at
> > > kdb_backtrace+0x29
> > > witness_checkorder(c45d604c,9,c45d379e,394,c08e9058,...) at
> > > witness_checkorder+0x6de
> > > _mtx_lock_flags(c45d604c,0,c45d379e,394,fb6717dc,...) at
> > > _mtx_lock_flags+0xbc
> > > pfi_attach_group_event(0,c4450000,c08e9058,374,c44a920c,...) at
> > > pfi_attach_group_event+0x4e
> > > if_addgroup(c441c000,c08f70d6,4,0,0,...) at if_addgroup+0x2c7
> > > if_clone_createif(0,0,c08e9563,87,0,...) at if_clone_createif+0x81
> > > if_clone_create(fb671943,4,0,44,180,...) at if_clone_create+0x8c
> > > tunclone(0,c461e400,fb671943,4,fb67195c,...) at tunclone+0x17a
> > > devfs_lookup(fb6719d0,fb6719d0,fb671b7c,c418de04,2,...) at
> > > devfs_lookup+0x50e
> > > VOP_LOOKUP_APV(c0928f40,fb6719d0,c412f230,c08e77ef,2a9,...) at
> > > VOP_LOOKUP_APV+0xa5
> > > lookup(fb671b7c,c08e77ef,c6,bf,c461e92c,...) at lookup+0x58e
> > > namei(fb671b7c,c412f230,fb671a74,246,c0983774,...) at namei+0x34b
> > > vn_open_cred(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c461e400,c4460558,...) at
> > > vn_open_cred+0x2c9
> > > vn_open(fb671b7c,fb671c78,ce8,c4460558,c05e807d,...) at vn_open+0x33
> > > kern_open(c412f230,80a0f18,0,3,808ecfa,...) at kern_open+0xe7
> > > open(c412f230,fb671cfc,c,c08e28c3,c092c0b8,...) at open+0x30
> > > syscall(fb671d38) at syscall+0x2b3
> > > Xint0x80_syscall() at Xint0x80_syscall+0x20
> > > --- syscall (5, FreeBSD ELF32, open), eip = 0x2835a65b, esp =
> > > 0xbfbfeafc, ebp = 0xbfbfeb38 ---
> >
> > Are you using user or group rules in your pf.conf? IIRC there is still a
> > known LOR in the socket layer with rules using the user or group filters.
>
> No, I'm aware of the problems with pf(4) and user/group rules. This LOR
> is in combination with rules on tun(4) devices, as you can see from the
> backtrace. I wonder what tunclone() is doing in there, though.

This LOR is believed to be harmless.  There should be an easy fix, even.  I'll 
have to take a look over the weekend.

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Jordi Espasa Clofent <jespasac@minibofh.org> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm upgrading a FreeBSD amd64 box from 6.2p9 to 7.0p5.
> After update the sources amd make world with success, I get this error:
>
> [...]
> newfs.lo(.text+0x659): In function `main':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> newfs_msdos.lo(.text+0x13): In function `mklabel':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> restore.lo(.text+0xc60): In function `mkentry':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> restore.lo(.text+0xa6d6): In function `rmthost':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> sysctl.lo(.text+0xf9f): more undefined references to `__mb_sb_limit' follow
> tar.lo(.text+0x28f4): In function `read_archive':
> : undefined reference to `archive_read_support_compression_program'
> tar.lo(.text+0x3a81): In function `yes':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> tar.lo(.text+0x432a): In function `safe_fprintf':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> tar.lo(.text+0x6156): In function `tar_mode_c':
> : undefined reference to `archive_write_set_compression_program'
> vi.lo(.text+0x2f80): In function `cut':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> vi.lo(.text+0x2fb0): In function `cut':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> vi.lo(.text+0x311e): In function `cut':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> vi.lo(.text+0x5c29): In function `v_key_name':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> vi.lo(.text+0x5cf3): In function `v_key_name':
> : undefined reference to `__mb_sb_limit'
> vi.lo(.text+0x63b8): more undefined references to `__mb_sb_limit' follow
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/rescue/rescue.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/rescue/rescue.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src/rescue.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/src.
>
> after try the classical kernel compilation ( cd /usr/src && make
> -DINSTALL_NODEBUG KERNCONF=MYKERNEL)
>
> I've not found any related info in the net. Anyones knows about? Last
> week I upgraded two others 6.2 amd boxes without problem.
>
> PD1. I use the "classical" method over "new" binary method because of
> my kernel is customized.

Neither of those methods seem to be the officially supported source
update method, which includes (in order, but with some other steps left
out) 
  
   make buildworld
   make buildkernel
   make installkernel
   <REBOOT into single-user>
   make installworld

Is that actually what you did?
If not, what did you mean when you said you did "make world"?

> PD2. I use -DINSTALL_NODEBUG flag because of my / partition is so
> small and need to preserve the maximum space.

That should be fine, and doesn't seem to be related to the symptoms.

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Sam Leffler wrote:

> Folks having problems with ath on releng7 should try the attached
> patch.

It fixed the panic when SuperG was activated on the wireless router for
me.  Thank you!

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On 2008-Nov-21 00:07:26 -0800, hamtilla <tangel@gmail.com> wrote:
>I'm running 7.0-RELEASE-i386 on Jetway's NC92-N230 mainboard. The board has
>one integrated RTL8168/8111 gigabit NIC as well as an expansion board with
>three RTL8168/8111 NICs. Why would the three NICs work while the onboard N=
IC
>does not?=20
>
>none2@pci0:1:0:0:       class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x816810ec chip=3D0x816810=
ec
>rev=3D0x02 hdr=3D0x00
>    vendor     =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor'
>    device     =3D 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
>    class      =3D network
>    subclass   =3D ethernet
>re0@pci0:2:4:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x10ec16f3 chip=3D0x816710ec rev=
=3D0x10
>hdr=3D0x00
>    vendor     =3D 'Realtek Semiconductor'
>    device     =3D 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
>    class      =3D network
>    subclass   =3D ethernet
=2E..

The on-board NIC is a different type to your expansion cards (note the
different 'chip=3D' values.  Looking at the code, it appears that only
some variants of the RTL8168 are supported in 7.x.  Unfortunately, pciconf
doesn't report the actual hardware revision, so you can't tell from the
pciconf output whether it's supported or not.

Can you report the output of 'pciconf -r pci0:1:0:0 0x40' (which should
report the hw revision) and 'pciconf -r pci0:2:4:0 0x40' (which gives
me a double-check).

You could try booting -current and see if the on-board NIC works there -
the range of supported NICs has changed.

--=20
Peter Jeremy
Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement
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On 2008-11-22 08:09:31AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2008-Nov-21 00:07:26 -0800, hamtilla <tangel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I'm running 7.0-RELEASE-i386 on Jetway's NC92-N230 mainboard. The board has
> >one integrated RTL8168/8111 gigabit NIC as well as an expansion board with
> >three RTL8168/8111 NICs. Why would the three NICs work while the onboard NIC
> >does not? 
> >
> >none2@pci0:1:0:0:       class=0x020000 card=0x816810ec chip=0x816810ec
> >rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
> >    vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
> >    device     = 'RTL8168/8111 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
> >    class      = network
> >    subclass   = ethernet
> >re0@pci0:2:4:0: class=0x020000 card=0x10ec16f3 chip=0x816710ec rev=0x10
> >hdr=0x00
> >    vendor     = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
> >    device     = 'RTL8169/8110 Family Gigabit Ethernet NIC'
> >    class      = network
> >    subclass   = ethernet
> ...
> 
> The on-board NIC is a different type to your expansion cards (note the
> different 'chip=' values.  Looking at the code, it appears that only
> some variants of the RTL8168 are supported in 7.x.  Unfortunately, pciconf
> doesn't report the actual hardware revision, so you can't tell from the
> pciconf output whether it's supported or not.
> 
> Can you report the output of 'pciconf -r pci0:1:0:0 0x40' (which should
> report the hw revision) and 'pciconf -r pci0:2:4:0 0x40' (which gives
> me a double-check).
> 
> You could try booting -current and see if the on-board NIC works there -
> the range of supported NICs has changed.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Jeremy
> Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement
> an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour.

Yes, 7.0-R is pretty old in terms of re(4) work. I believe yongari@
is still working on this driver. 7.1 is close enough for patching
with patches from http://people.freebsd.org/~yongari/re/

Currently development is stifled because he has to basically guess
the appropriate magic values for various PHY permutations in these 
8111C/8168C gigabit cards everyone seems to be putting in their
motherboards these days.

-- 
===========================================================
Peter C. Lai                 | Bard College at Simon's Rock
Systems Administrator        | 84 Alford Rd.
Information Technology Svcs. | Gt. Barrington, MA 01230 USA
peter AT simons-rock.edu     | (413) 528-7428
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In several of the recent ZFS posts, multiple people have asked when this
will be MFC'd to 7.x.  This query has been studiously ignored as other
chatter about whatever ZFS issue is discussed.

So in a post with no other bug report or discussion content to distract us,
when is it intended that ZFS be MFC'd to 7.x?

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On 11/22/08, Zaphod Beeblebrox <zbeeble@gmail.com> wrote:
> In several of the recent ZFS posts, multiple people have asked when this
> will be MFC'd to 7.x.  This query has been studiously ignored as other
> chatter about whatever ZFS issue is discussed.
>
> So in a post with no other bug report or discussion content to distract us,
> when is it intended that ZFS be MFC'd to 7.x?

Once no new bugs appear any more, and old one are fixed.

-- 
Paul

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On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Paul B. Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 11/22/08, Zaphod Beeblebrox <zbeeble@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > chatter about whatever ZFS issue is discussed.
> >
> > So in a post with no other bug report or discussion content to distract
> us,
> > when is it intended that ZFS be MFC'd to 7.x?
>
> Once no new bugs appear any more, and old one are fixed.


That's a pretty cop-out answer.  Considering the the version of ZFS in 7.x
has significant issues and the ZFS patches havn't shown any propensity to
affect non-ZFS systems when ZFS is not running or loaded, the benefit of
importing the new code seems to outweigh any caution you might feel.  I can
understand an answer such as "not in 7.1, but immediately after" ... given
the standards we apply to release branches ... but a vague "when no bugs
seem to appear" applies much less to a system like ZFS (still in flux) than,
say, the new USB stack.

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Sean C. Farley wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Sam Leffler wrote:
>
>> Folks having problems with ath on releng7 should try the attached
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> It fixed the panic when SuperG was activated on the wireless router for
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Guy Coleman gets any credit; I just recognized what the root cause was.

    Sam


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Hi,

On 22 Nov 2008, at 1:20, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:

> That's a pretty cop-out answer.  Considering the the version of ZFS  
> in 7.x
> has significant issues and the ZFS patches havn't shown any  
> propensity to
> affect non-ZFS systems when ZFS is not running or loaded, the  
> benefit of

Please, give them some time.... zfs v13 has just ended up in -current  
after a long time and hard workmanship. I think everyone likes to see  
it up in RELENG_7 someday, but until that happens I'll be just  
patient. It definitely needs the time to settle before people can even  
think about mfc'ing it, which is not a trivial task either.

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Hi all

I'm using FreeBSD RELENG_7 on i386 and noted with rtprio(2) the priority for root and other normal users is "normal priority" with 65504 as the priority value (rtp.prio). 

Please note, this is not the latest RELENG_7, my system is compiled somewhere on May.

I checked the program flow from /usr/src/usr.bin/su/su.c to /usr/src/lib/libutil/login_class.c and found setusercontext() is setting the priority right but the moment it come out from the setusercontext() call in su.c, the priority has already turn to 65504.

It looks like this is a bug. I had a quite thorough look but did not see any error. I'm not sure by now is it been fixed. Do others experience it? 

Best regards
Unga






      

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Le 14/11/2008  17:13, Herve Boulouis a écrit:
> Le 06/11/2008  16:05, Herve Boulouis a écrit:
> > Le 06/11/2008  11:29, Herve Boulouis a écrit:
> > 
> > I just tried to reboot one of the boxes without kern.ipc.maxpipekva=104857600 to check for kva problems
> > but crashes persists, though the stack is completely different now. This time I included all the corrupt
> > parts of the stack that I had stripped in my original email but they are similar (from frame 18 to end).
> > 
> > Any ideas ?
> 
> We just found the same kind of crash with a 7.0-STABLE i386 from August so there is a serious bug in the kernel making
> varnish with file backend totaly unusable on FreeBSD 7.

Found the culprit: removing ZERO_COPY_SOCKETS from kernel config allows varnish to run happily with mmap'ed backend.
(at least no crash in the past 17 hours)

Tested on amd64 only.

-- 
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Hi.

I have running firewall, just simple NAT with pf at the moment.
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Hi,

> How should I configure my FreeBSD box to achieve this, what tools I should 
> use?

You can only proxy traffic that the proxyserver itself understands. I 
suppose that proxyserver from your ISP is an http proxy, so you have to 
adjust your browser. You cannot proxy smtp or pop3, sip or whatever 
through, let's say, squid. It doesn't understand any protocol other than 
http (and ftp). Natting all outbound traffic to that proxyserver will not 
work as you expect. There is ofcourse other proxyserver software that do 
understand pop3, smtp, sip, etc etc but I don't think your ISP will 
offer that service. Otherwise, give them a call and find out.

Hth.

Regards,
Robert

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Subject: Re: can't write dvd (interrupt storm)
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 09:29:01AM +0200, Oleg Kozheltsev wrote:
> Hello,
>=20
> yesterday I buy new motherboard INTEL DP43TF and now I can't write dvd=20
> disks in any format (on PATA dvd-drive). but still can read any dvd and=
=20
> cd. cd write and blank procedure for dvd-rw done well too. when I start=
=20
> write dvd by growisofs (/dev/cd0 - atapicam), in log I get:
>=20
> Nov 14 08:28:06 <kern.crit> gx kernel: acd0: FAILURE - RESERVE_TRACK=20
> ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=3D0x30 ascq=3D0x05
> Nov 14 08:28:06 <kern.crit> gx kernel: interrupt storm detected on=20
> "irq4:"; throttling interrupt source
> Nov 14 08:28:50 <kern.crit> gx last message repeated <many> times
> Nov 14 08:31:07 <kern.crit> gx kernel: acd0: FAILURE - WRITE_BIG timed out
>=20
> if I use burncd (/dev/acd0. with, or without atapicam in kernel), then I=
=20
> get only second string in log.
Does cdrecord works for you when writing CD-ROM or CD-RW ?
I got the same motherboard, and so far I had no problems with cd.
pooma% camcontrol devlist
<SONY DVD-ROM DDU1612 DYS3>        at scbus0 target 0 lun 0 (pass0,sg0,cd0)
<Optiarc DVD RW AD-7170A 1.02>     at scbus0 target 1 lun 0 (pass1,sg1,cd1)

I have no blank dvd at the hands now to verify growisofs operations.
>=20
> before upgrade, I had 6.3-RELEASE-p3, update to 7.0-RELEASE-p5, and=20
> after to 7.1-PRELEASE #5, it doesn't change anything. drive=20
> configuration in BIOS - too (change only SATA controller ICH10/AHCI).=20
> this IRQ is also used by USB and COM. turning off both in BIOS and/or=20
> kernel change IRQ map, but drive still not work correctly. present or=20
> not ACPI module - doesn't matter too. by the way, COM port I also can't=
=20
> reach (/dev/cuad0), but without interrupt storm in log's (through APCI=20
What do you mean by "cannot reach" ?

> or ISA. even if USB and atapicd is turned off).
>=20
> someone had the same problem?... thanks for attention :)
>=20
>=20
> system info:
>=20
> FreeBSD gx.dnepr.net 7.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-PRERELEASE #3: Thu Nov=20
> 13 16:23:09 EET 2008     root@gx.dnepr.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KERN  i386
>=20
> pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> irq 4 at device 28.3 on pci0
> pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
>=20
> atapci0: <JMicron JMB368 UDMA133 controller> port=20
> 0xd040-0xd047,0xd030-0xd033,0xd020-0xd027,0xd010-0xd013,0xd000-0xd00f=20
> irq 4 at device 0.0 on pci3
> atapci0: [ITHREAD]
> ata2: <ATA channel 0> on atapci0
> ata2: [ITHREAD]
>=20
> usb4: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> on uhci3
> usb4: USB revision 1.0
> uhub4: <Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1> on usb4
> uhub4: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> uhci4: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xf060-0xf07f irq 4 at=20
> device 29.1 on pci0
> uhci4: [GIANT-LOCKED]
> uhci4: [ITHREAD]
>=20
> sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on=
=20
> acpi0
> sio0: type 16550A
>=20
> acd0: DVDR <NEC DVD RW ND-3550A/1.05> at ata2-<master or slave> UDMA33
> cd0 at ata2 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
> cd0: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A 1.05> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
> cd0: 33.000MB/s transfers
> cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present
>=20
> (if media present in boot time - interrupt storm again)
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When ever I try try to mount any burned CD/DVD media I get the error
below.

mount_cd9660 -v /dev/cd0 /mnt
using starting sector 0
mount_cd9660: /dev/cd0: Input/output error
Exit 1

Which in dmesg results in...

g_vfs_done():cd0[READ(offset=3D-2207623839744, length=3D2048)]error =3D 5

This is odd because if I unplug the USB CD drive and plug it into my
netbook running a old RELENG 7.0-STABLE it works. On the machine that
it errors on it has been doing this for any burned CD/DVD media in
either the DVD drive in it or on the USB one I've been testing with.

I know the disk is good as I can mount it on other machines I've
tested it on with the same drive and different drives.

Any one have any ideas?

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