From owner-freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 21 03:24:14 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22ED3106567C; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:24:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E7A8FC19; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:24:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.2/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8L3OAbl086910; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:24:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 21:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20080920.212458.1649778615.imp@bsdimp.com> To: rink@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20080920171021.GA42549@rink.nu> References: <200809201505.07947.hselasky@c2i.net> <20080920171021.GA42549@rink.nu> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: intron@intron.ac, freebsd-usb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [usb2] new usb stack and suser in CURRENT X-BeenThere: freebsd-usb@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD support for USB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 03:24:14 -0000 In message: <20080920171021.GA42549@rink.nu> Rink Springer writes: : On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 09:59:09PM +0800, Intron is my alias on the Internet wrote: : > How soon will the new USB stack be committed to the main source tree? : > Since it can peacefully co-exist with the old one in a source tree, : > why not commit it at once? : > For a driver writer/porter, a "standard" version of the new USB stack : > is needed for compiling/debugging. : : The main problem was that the new stack would be imported just days : after the new TTY layer was committed, which caused a lot of resistance : (which makes sense, as debugging problems would become much harder). I : believe Alfred, who would be doing the import, went on vacation a few : weeks after. This timeline isn't quite right. The concerns over the new TTY drivers and usb weren't relevant. There were a number of other issues that ran out the clock for Alfred's free time to commit this before his vacation. After he got back, he hasn't had the time to commit. I personally said I'd deal with the new TTY layer and usb (at least ucom). I fixed a few nits that ed overlooked in a couple devices he didn't have in the old stack. : Personally, since we have the new TTY layer for some time now, I think : it would be good if Alfred (CC'ed) would attempt to request this import : again, if his time permits. I'd like to see this. I know he's very busy at work, but hope he has some time to cope with this. I'd do it, but all my FreeBSD time these days is booked up with MIPS, ARM and a paper for EuroBSDCon. Warner