From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 31 17:31:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573EF106566B for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:31:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (it.buh.tecnik93.com [81.196.204.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB05F8FC17 for ; Sun, 31 May 2009 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from itetcu@FreeBSD.org) Received: from it.buh.tecnik93.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by it.buh.tecnik93.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1479B2C50D09; Sun, 31 May 2009 20:15:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 20:15:53 +0300 From: Ion-Mihai Tetcu To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090531201553.3aac4b82@it.buh.tecnik93.com> In-Reply-To: References: <200905281030.n4SAUXdA046386@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200905280847.12966.kirk@strauser.com> <200905280904.44025.kirk@strauser.com> <20090528183801.82b36bbb.freebsd@edvax.de> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE2@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <70C0964126D66F458E688618E1CD008A0793EDE6@WADPEXV0.waddell.com> <4A1EF742.7030606@otenet.gr> <4A2041ED.4010003@telenix.org> <4A218A98.4@telenix.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/56DgJ4JSYfQuNE=ufhuMKlm"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Gary Gatten , Chuck Robey , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is this forum for? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:31:57 -0000 --Sig_/56DgJ4JSYfQuNE=ufhuMKlm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 30 May 2009 22:09:04 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: [ .. ] > > dealing with humans) is a very unfair tactic in trying to justify > > any view. > > What you want to look for is a solution that causes the least > > problems, and respecting the list rules does that. >=20 > Where are this rules defined? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/etique= tte.html http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ > best with moderation BUT EVEN WITHOUT, but with clearly defined rules > on webpage it could be efficient. Let's make a test case: please compare your emails with the rules and suggestions in above two articles. We spend a few hours per day *working* on improving FreeBSD, doing also moderating is just to much. Besides, we expect people to behave intelligently and politely. Life keeps contradicting us it seems :-[ > the more clear - the more efficient. possibly some most-common > examples to make it even clearer. >=20 > > It won't fix all problems, but it does > > keep the noise level on our lists to a minimum, and maximizes the > > amount of help that can be passed on our lists. >=20 > Help at all or help about FreeBSD. if at all - then let it be about=20 > everything. >=20 > >> Another question - some of you said that "outdated" hardware is > >> welcome too as gifts for FreeBSD team. > >> > >> I actually have lots of them, and NON-typical things, that would be > >> useful. I prepared a list, and can make photos. > >> > >> I already sent a mail to one developer but got no response. Maybe > >> he is just busy or absent, anyway what's the best address for this. Please contact donations@ > just got this after a day: >=20 > --- > Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 23:47:08 +0400 > From: Boris Samorodov > To: Wojciech Puchar > Subject: Re: sponsoring >=20 > On Fri, 29 May 2009 22:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: >=20 > > you said that "outdated hardware" are very welcome. >=20 > No, I had never said it. Please, stop spamming me. >=20 >=20 > --- >=20 >=20 > OK so fuck off Boris, but we were talking some time ago about dumping=20 > potential sponsors ;) Watch you language please. > anyone want to see my mail(s) it was a reply to? No. Really not. Given the way you behaved in this thread you're one step away from my killfile. Maybe you should take a few days and think if all the people disagreeing here with you are wrong. --=20 IOnut - Un^d^dregistered ;) FreeBSD "user" "Intellectual Property" is nowhere near as valuable as "Intellect" FreeBSD committer -> itetcu@FreeBSD.org, PGP Key ID 057E9F8B493A297B --Sig_/56DgJ4JSYfQuNE=ufhuMKlm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkoiu0kACgkQJ7GIuiH/oeX8UwCfbst98wcukbzRT8wbu0376V27 7UkAnjqyg+glxZ7jTSDyn972LaWN56IO =2Qwa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/56DgJ4JSYfQuNE=ufhuMKlm--