From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 27 03:13:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6704106566B; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:13:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7E08FC13; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:13:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (linimon@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8R3DTDF015416; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:13:29 GMT (envelope-from linimon@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from linimon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8R3DTfO015412; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:13:29 GMT (envelope-from linimon) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:13:29 GMT Message-Id: <200909270313.n8R3DTfO015412@freefall.freebsd.org> To: linimon@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: linimon@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/139165: gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and lib X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 03:13:29 -0000 Synopsis: gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and lib Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: linimon Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 27 03:13:00 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: reassign to docs. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=139165 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 28 11:06:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F301065692 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F73A8FC0C for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8SB66VP063097 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8SB665D063093 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:06 GMT (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <200909281106.n8SB665D063093@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: gnats set sender to owner-bugmaster@FreeBSD.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Cc: Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:06:07 -0000 (Note: an HTML version of this report is available at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?category=doc .) The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. S Tracker Resp. Description -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o docs/139165 doc gssapi.3 man page out of sync with between crypto and o docs/139161 doc [handbook] partial updating and synchronisation with t o docs/139153 doc the hier(7) man page needs to be updated o docs/139095 doc new article on creating an internal FreeBSD Update Ser o docs/139018 doc translation of submitting.sgml from docproj/submitting o docs/138887 doc manpage ports(7) incorrect o docs/138845 doc Exceeding kern.ipc.maxpipekva refers to tuning(7) whic o docs/138663 doc system(3) man page confuses users about "return value o docs/138485 doc bpf(4) and ip(4) man pages missing important corner ca o docs/138206 doc [patch] ntp(1): not enabled function, and false manual o docs/138204 doc invalid reference in manual less(1) o docs/137762 doc [handbook] proposed: mention "make delete-old" in sec o docs/137171 doc [patch] replacement of k8temp(4) by amdtemp(4) isn't r o docs/136918 doc [patch] grammar fixes to locking.9 o docs/136712 doc [handbook] [patch] draft new section on gmirror per pa o docs/136666 doc [handbook] Configure serial port for remote kernel deb o docs/136100 doc change FreeBSD Ports distfiles survey's url to portsco o docs/136035 doc ftpchroot(5) omits an important option p docs/136029 doc MALLOC_PRODUCTION knob should be mentioned somewhere, o docs/135999 doc Netgear GS105v3 should be added to list of switches th o docs/135676 doc FAQ About The FreeBSD Mailing Lists doesn't mention ma o docs/135516 doc pax(1) manual not mentioning chflags unawareness o docs/135475 doc [patch] jot(1) manpage and behaviour differ o docs/135165 doc [patch] make(1) fixes: punctuation, typos, tweaks o docs/134376 doc pthread(3): pthread manpages don't mention that PTHREA o docs/134226 doc /usr/share/examples/ftpd/ftpd.conf does not exist. o docs/134222 doc installation failure of japanese docs o docs/134123 doc The RUNQUEUE(9) man page is out of date o docs/134074 doc [patch] locking.9 man page slight enhancements o docs/133567 doc [patch] doc/Makefile switch to csup o docs/133245 doc french handbook 27.3.5 amd.map amd.conf o docs/133228 doc handbook 23.3.5 screenmap section is confusing o docs/133186 doc [patch] powerd(8) man page errors o docs/133118 doc [patch] Error in getopt (1) manual EXAMPLES section o docs/132959 doc [patch] description mismatches on xterm/termcap, fortu o docs/132884 doc [request] No manpage for SYSINIT and SYSUNINIT o docs/132839 doc [patch] Fix example script in ldap-auth article o docs/132718 doc [handbook] Information about adding a new mirror is ou o docs/132525 doc [PATCH] Fix documentation for atapicam(4) and umass(4) o docs/132311 doc [patch] man5/nsmb.conf.5 o docs/132260 doc dhcpd(8) pid not stored in documented location o docs/132193 doc [patch] description in the malo(4) manpage incorrect o docs/132190 doc EPERM explanation for send(2), sendto(2), and sendmsg( o docs/132113 doc [handbook] Update handbook jails creation o docs/131918 doc [patch] Fixes for the BPF(4) man page o docs/131684 doc [patch] articles/linux-comparison: replace Addenda by o docs/131590 doc [patch] whitespace-only change of developers-handbook/ o docs/130895 doc [patch] No man page installed for padlock(4) on amd64 o docs/130742 doc [patch] articles/geom-class: russian translation is mi o docs/130364 doc Man page for top needs explanation of CPU states o docs/130238 doc nfs.lockd man page doesn't mention NFSLOCKD option or o docs/129671 doc New TCP chapter for Developer's Handbook (from rwatson o docs/129095 doc ipfw(8): Can not check that packet originating/destine o docs/128524 doc No geom documentation for loading gjournal(8) o docs/128356 doc [request] add Firefox plugin for FreeBSD manual pages o docs/127908 doc [patch] readdir(3) error documentation s docs/127844 doc Example code skeleton_capture_n.c in meteor(4) manpage o docs/126590 doc [patch] Write routine called forever in Sample Echo Ps o docs/126484 doc libc function res-zonscut2 is not documented o docs/125921 doc lpd(8) talks about blocks in minfree while it is KB in o docs/125751 doc man 3 pthread_getschedparam section ERRORS incomplete f docs/122052 doc minor update on handbook section 20.7.1 o docs/121952 doc Handbook chapter on Network Address Translation wrong o docs/121871 doc ftpd does not interpret configuration files as documen o docs/121585 doc [handbook] Wrong multicast specification o docs/121565 doc dhcp-options(5) manpage incorrectly formatted omitting s docs/121541 doc [request] no man pages for wlan_scan_ap o bin/121424 doc [patch] [ipfw] Rectify ambiguous English in manual o docs/121312 doc RELNOTES_LANG breaks release if not en_US.ISO8859-1 o docs/121173 doc [patch] mq_getattr(2): mq_flags mistakenly described a s docs/120917 doc [request]: Man pages mising for thr_xxx syscalls o docs/120539 doc Inconsistent ipfw's man page o docs/120456 doc ath(4) needs to specify requirement on wlan_scan_sta o docs/120125 doc [patch] Installing FreeBSD 7.0 via serial console and o docs/120024 doc resolver(5) and hosts(5) need updated for IPv6 o docs/119545 doc books/arch-handbook/usb/chapter.sgml formatting a docs/119536 doc a few typos in French handbook (basics) o docs/118902 doc [patch] wrong signatures in d2i_RSAPublicKey man pages o docs/118332 doc man page for top does not describe STATE column wait e o docs/118214 doc close(2) error returns incomplete o docs/118020 doc ipfilter(4): man pages query for man 4 ipfilter return o docs/117747 doc 'break' system call needs a man page o docs/116480 doc sysctl(3) description of kern.file no longer applies s o docs/116116 doc mktemp (3) re/move note o docs/115065 doc [patch] sync ps.1 with p_flag and keywords o docs/114371 doc [patch] [ip6] rtadvd.con(5) should show how to adverti o docs/114184 doc [patch] [ndis]: add info to man 4 ndis o docs/114139 doc mbuf(9) has misleading comments on M_DONTWAIT and M_TR o docs/113194 doc [patch] [request] crontab.5: handling of day-in-month o docs/112804 doc groff(1) command should be called to explicitly use "p o docs/112682 doc Handbook GEOM_GPT explanation does not provide accurat o docs/111425 doc Missing chunks of text in historical manpages o docs/111265 doc [request] Clarify how to set common shell variables o docs/111147 doc hostapd.conf is not documented o docs/110999 doc carp(4) should document unsupported interface types o docs/110692 doc wi(4) man page doesn't say WPA is not supported o docs/110376 doc [patch] add some more explanations for the iwi/ipw fir o docs/110253 doc [patch] rtprio(1): remove processing starvation commen o docs/110062 doc [patch] mount_nfs(8) fails to mention a failure condit o docs/110061 doc [patch] tuning(7) missing reference to vfs.read_max o docs/109981 doc No manual entry for post-grohtml o docs/109977 doc No manual entry for ksu o docs/109973 doc No manual entry for c++filt o docs/109972 doc No manual entry for zless/bzless f docs/109226 doc [request] No manual entry for sntp o docs/109201 doc [request]: manual for callbootd a docs/108980 doc list of missing man pages o docs/108101 doc /boot/default/loader.conf contains an incorrect commen o docs/106135 doc [request] articles/vinum needs to be updated o docs/105608 doc fdc(4) debugging description staled o docs/104879 doc Howto: Listen to IMA ADPCM .wav files on FreeBSD box o docs/102719 doc [patch] ng_bpf(4) example leads to unneeded promiscuos o docs/101464 doc sync ru_RU.KOI8-R/articles/portbuild/article.html with o docs/100196 doc man login.conf does explain not "unlimited" o docs/99506 doc FreeBSD Handbook addition: IPv6 Server Settings o docs/98974 doc Missing tunables in loader(8) manpage o docs/98759 doc [patch] sbp_targ(4) man page missing reference to devi o docs/98115 doc Missing parts after rendering handbook to RTF format o docs/96207 doc Comments of a sockaddr_un structure could confuse one o docs/94625 doc [patch] growfs man page -- document "panic: not enough o docs/92626 doc jail manpage should mention disabling some periodic sc o docs/91506 doc ndis(4) man page should be more specific about support o docs/91174 doc [REQUEST] Handbook: Addition of Oracle 9i installation o docs/91149 doc read(2) can return EINVAL for unaligned access to bloc o docs/88512 doc [patch] mount_ext2fs(8) man page has no details on lar o docs/87936 doc Handbook chapter on NIS/YP lacks good information on a o docs/87857 doc ifconfig(8) wireless options order matters o docs/86342 doc bikeshed entry of Handbook is wrong o docs/85128 doc [patch] loader.conf(5) autoboot_delay incompletly desc o docs/84956 doc [patch] intro(5) manpage doesn't mention API coverage o docs/84932 doc new document: printing with an Epson ALC-3000N on Free o docs/84670 doc [patch] tput(1) manpage missing ENVIRONMENT section wi o docs/84317 doc fdp-primer doesn't show class=USERNAME distinctively o docs/84271 doc [patch] compress(1) doesn't warn about nasty link hand o docs/83820 doc getino(3) manpage not installed o docs/78480 doc Networked printer setup unnecessarily complex in handb o docs/63570 doc [patch] Language cleanup for the Handbook's DNS sectio o docs/61605 doc [request] Improve documentation for i386 disk geometry o docs/61301 doc [patch] Manpage patch for aue(4) to enable HomePNA fun o docs/59835 doc ipfw(8) man page does not warn about accepted but mean o docs/59477 doc Outdated Info Documents at http://docs.freebsd.org/inf o docs/59044 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk does not properly handle a sour s docs/54752 doc bus_dma explained in ISA section in Handbook: should b o docs/53751 doc bus_dma(9) incorrectly documents BUS_DMA_ALLOCNOW o docs/53596 doc Updates to mt(1) manual page o docs/53271 doc bus_dma(9) fails to document alignment restrictions o docs/50211 doc [patch] doc.docbook.mk: fix textfile creation o docs/48101 doc [patch] add documentation on the fixit disk to the FAQ o docs/43823 doc [patch] update to environ(7) manpage o docs/41089 doc pax(1) -B option does not mention interaction with -z o docs/40423 doc Keyboard(4)'s definition of parameters to GETFKEY/SETF o docs/38982 doc [patch] developers-handbook/Jail fix o docs/38556 doc EPS file of beastie, as addition to existing examples s docs/35678 doc docproj Makefiles for web are broken for paths with sp s docs/33589 doc [patch] to doc.docbook.mk to post process .tex files. a docs/30008 doc [patch] French softupdates document should be translat o docs/27605 doc [patch] Cross-document references () o docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings o docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) s docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags in the sourc 160 problems total. From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 07:40:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9575C1065670 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:40:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731C28FC17 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8T7e5QL066629 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:40:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8T7e5Z0066628; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:40:05 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:40:05 GMT Resent-Message-Id: <200909290740.n8T7e5Z0066628@freefall.freebsd.org> Resent-From: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org (GNATS Filer) Resent-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Resent-Reply-To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, pluknet Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F998106566C for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:32:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: from www.freebsd.org (www.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::21]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE038FC15 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from www.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8T7W27J084466 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:32:02 GMT (envelope-from nobody@www.freebsd.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n8T7W2cG084465; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:32:02 GMT (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200909290732.n8T7W2cG084465@www.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:32:02 GMT From: pluknet To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-3.1 Cc: Subject: docs/139230: mknod(8) references /sys/conf/majors X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:40:06 -0000 >Number: 139230 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mknod(8) references /sys/conf/majors >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 29 07:40:05 UTC 2009 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: pluknet >Release: 7.2-RELEASE-p3 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The mknod(8) manpage still references /sys/conf/majors removed before 6.x: /usr/src/sbin/mknod/mknod.8:.Pa /usr/src/sys/conf/majors . >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: What about this patch? Index: sbin/mknod/mknod.8 =================================================================== --- sbin/mknod/mknod.8 (revision 197608) +++ sbin/mknod/mknod.8 (working copy) @@ -74,9 +74,7 @@ .It Ar major The major device number is an integer number which tells the kernel which device driver entry point to use. -To learn what -major device number to use for a particular device, check -.Pa /usr/src/sys/conf/majors . +This is a compatibility shim and should be left zero. .It Ar minor The minor device number tells the kernel which subunit the node corresponds to on the device; for example, >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 29 13:45:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D4C1065672 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:45:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6181E8FC1D for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lightning.wonkity.com (lightning.wonkity.com [10.0.0.8]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TDLLpO042775 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:21:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@lightning.wonkity.com) Received: from lightning.wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lightning.wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8TDLLZa024318 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:21:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@lightning.wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by lightning.wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n8TDLKZC024315 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:21:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@lightning.wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:21:20 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [10.0.0.1]); Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:21:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Subject: uath(4) Web doc problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:45:45 -0000 Web version of 8-CURRENT release notes on uath(4) http://www.freebsd.org/relnotes/CURRENT/hardware/article.html has a couple of problems: 1. Each list item has an extra "li" in it: * Li Compex WLU108AG * Li Compex WLU108G * Li D-Link DWL-G132 2. Link to uath(4) web man page is correct, but the online man page doesn't exist: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=uath&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+8-current&format=html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 07:09:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C494106568B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au) Received: from mail1.riverwillow.net.au (mail1.riverwillow.net.au [203.58.93.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67B58FC14 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au [172.25.24.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail1.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9279MMP015214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:09:22 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=riverwillow.com.au; s=m1001; t=1254467362; bh=h93k2c6pz6CUraVorU7rR6ZDuPzf2YBcXp4AHIa99M8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=RVYv/R5eCkGg5uKkE2ZCyGjv5sqauDdgU9lsqLpt/vuPZ6p3OrDLlAHzss1ny+M1j 3U5lQNwIc0LgcbwiPoGtQUjT2Gye1YIErmiyVnj7SHafumGlqRxrkLqfxJD0w76pPB pRQspmfWWYFZAUqExxqtfyMSn+MswbN4PBI3z2is= Received: from rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9279MF0058559 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:09:22 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from john.marshall@riverwillow.com.au) Received: (from john@localhost) by rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9279Mt5058558 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:09:22 +1000 (AEST) (envelope-from john) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:09:22 +1000 From: John Marshall To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091002070921.GK37304@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YkJPYEFdoxh/AXLE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i OpenPGP: id=A29A84A2; url=http://pki.riverwillow.net.au/pgp/johnmarshall.asc Subject: Maintenance of FreeBSD 8.0 Release Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:09:32 -0000 --YkJPYEFdoxh/AXLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who looks after the FreeBSD Release Documentation (Release Notes, etc.) and what is the proper way for submitting update suggestions? Since I started testing FreeBSD 8.0 back in July, I have been bitten three times (HARD) by different changes in Kerberos (Heimdal went from 0.6.3 to 1.1.0). I have been reporting my questions, findings and patches to -current@ but that doesn't address the documentation. I would think that the Release Notes would be the appropriate place to give at least a summary of some of the changes included in the release. If I look at there is not even any mention of the Kerberos (Heimdal) upgrade: the OpenSSH upgrade is mentioned but the upgrade version number is wrong. So, what should I do? or is posting this email all that I need to do? I have not been able to find the 8.0 Release Notes source in CVS. Thank you. --=20 John Marshall --YkJPYEFdoxh/AXLE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkrFpyEACgkQw/tAaKKahKL8EwCcC7RK3vkGGruorPxV8tc9LYI4 Q+gAmgMMBh6Z5KjgdwKCpT+94oEIywD/ =2Dmk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YkJPYEFdoxh/AXLE-- From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 12:38:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304C61065670; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:38:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B088FC19; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 12:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A593346B2D; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.hudson-trading.com (unknown [209.249.190.8]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EEF618A020; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:42:23 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20091002070921.GK37304@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> In-Reply-To: <20091002070921.GK37304@rwpc12.mby.riverwillow.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200910020742.23691.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Fri, 02 Oct 2009 08:38:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Hiroki Sato , John Marshall Subject: Re: Maintenance of FreeBSD 8.0 Release Documentation X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:38:05 -0000 On Friday 02 October 2009 3:09:22 am John Marshall wrote: > Who looks after the FreeBSD Release Documentation (Release Notes, etc.) > and what is the proper way for submitting update suggestions? > > Since I started testing FreeBSD 8.0 back in July, I have been bitten > three times (HARD) by different changes in Kerberos (Heimdal went from > 0.6.3 to 1.1.0). I have been reporting my questions, findings and > patches to -current@ but that doesn't address the documentation. > > I would think that the Release Notes would be the appropriate place to > give at least a summary of some of the changes included in the release. > If I look at > > there is not even any mention of the Kerberos (Heimdal) upgrade: the > OpenSSH upgrade is mentioned but the upgrade version number is wrong. > > So, what should I do? or is posting this email all that I need to do? > I have not been able to find the 8.0 Release Notes source in CVS. I believe that the current maintainer tends to do a flurry of release note updates during the end of the release cycle. I think hrs@ is the current maintainer of the release notes. The live in the source tree under src/release/doc IIRC. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 15:38:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE92B106568B for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kama@pvp.se) Received: from ms1.as.pvp.se (mail.pvp.se [213.64.187.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9367D8FC1A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ms1.as.pvp.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E0446B4; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:08:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms1.as.pvp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF2CB3; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:08:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:08:38 +0200 (CEST) From: kama X-X-Sender: kama@ns1.as.pvp.se To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091002165602.Q37424@ns1.as.pvp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: acpi doc misconfusion... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:38:40 -0000 Hi, there are a lot of different errors in various document regarding acpi that are wrong. In 'man acpi' it says that 'hint.acpi.0.disabled' should be placed in loader.conf. ------------- LOADER TUNABLES Tunables can be set at the loader(8) prompt before booting the kernel or stored in /boot/loader.conf. Many of these tunables also have a matching sysctl(8) entry for access after boot. ... hint.acpi.0.disabled Set this to 1 to disable all of ACPI. If ACPI has been disabled on your system due to a blacklist entry for your BIOS, you can set this to 0 to re-enable ACPI for testing. ... ------------- In 'man loader' it says: ------------- acpi_load Unset this to disable automatic loading of the ACPI module. See also hint.acpi.0.disabled in device.hints(5). ------------- In 'man device.hints' ------------- The following example disables the ACPI driver: hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" ------------- http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/laptop/article.html page also states that it should be in device.hints. Well, these are the ones I have found. There are a lot of misconfusion in various forums what to put where and how its done. Maybe its accurate on both places, but then that should be noted somewhere. /Bjorn From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 15:44:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D1B1065672 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:44:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amarat@ksu.ru) Received: from mx.kzn.ru (mx.kzn.ru [194.85.243.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F8D8FC0A for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 15:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: iout.kzn.ru; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=193.232.252.56; receiver=iout.kzn.ru; envelope-from="amarat@ksu.ru"; x-sender="amarat@ksu.ru"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=193.232.252.56; receiver=iout.kzn.ru; envelope-from="amarat@ksu.ru"; x-sender="amarat@ksu.ru"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=193.232.252.56; receiver=iout.kzn.ru; envelope-from="amarat@ksu.ru"; x-sender="postmaster@ruby.ksu.ru"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsAEANm5xUrCVfWh/2dsb2JhbACBUdZWgmqBQgSCJoFw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,494,1249243200"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="5169376" Received: from mail.ksu.ru (HELO ruby.ksu.ru) ([193.232.252.56]) by iout.kzn.ru with ESMTP; 02 Oct 2009 19:34:02 +0400 X-Pass-Through: Kazan State University Network Received: from zealot.ksu.ru ([194.85.245.161]) by ksu.ru (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n92EYIEW018980; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 14:34:18 GMT Received: from zealot.ksu.ru (localhost.lnet [127.0.0.1]) by zealot.ksu.ru (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n92FUwDS013718; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:30:59 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from amarat@ksu.ru) Message-ID: <4AC61CB2.3050801@ksu.ru> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:30:58 +0400 From: "Marat N.Afanasyev" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090922 SeaMonkey/1.1.18 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kama References: <20091002165602.Q37424@ns1.as.pvp.se> In-Reply-To: <20091002165602.Q37424@ns1.as.pvp.se> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms090000080309070405070801" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi doc misconfusion... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:44:10 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms090000080309070405070801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kama wrote: > Hi, > > there are a lot of different errors in various document regarding acpi > that are wrong. > > In 'man acpi' it says that 'hint.acpi.0.disabled' should be placed in > loader.conf. > > ------------- > LOADER TUNABLES > Tunables can be set at the loader(8) prompt before booting the kernel > or > stored in /boot/loader.conf. Many of these tunables also have a > matching > sysctl(8) entry for access after boot. > ... > hint.acpi.0.disabled > Set this to 1 to disable all of ACPI. If ACPI has been > disabled > on your system due to a blacklist entry for your BIOS, you > can > set this to 0 to re-enable ACPI for testing. > ... > ------------- > > > > In 'man loader' it says: > ------------- > acpi_load > Unset this to disable automatic loading of the ACPI module. > See also hint.acpi.0.disabled in device.hints(5). > ------------- > > In 'man device.hints' > ------------- > The following example disables the ACPI driver: > > hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > ------------- > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/laptop/article.html page also > states that it should be in device.hints. > > > Well, these are the ones I have found. There are a lot of misconfusion in > various forums what to put where and how its done. Maybe its accurate on > both places, but then that should be noted somewhere. > > /Bjorn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > I was told that there's no difference between loader.conf and device.hints, so you can place this option in either file -- SY, Marat --------------ms090000080309070405070801 Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIII8zCC AtQwggI9oAMCAQICEHpsMo6nkbUVegxjAzzxYCkwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwYjELMAkGA1UE BhMCWkExJTAjBgNVBAoTHFRoYXd0ZSBDb25zdWx0aW5nIChQdHkpIEx0ZC4xLDAqBgNVBAMT I1RoYXd0ZSBQZXJzb25hbCBGcmVlbWFpbCBJc3N1aW5nIENBMB4XDTA5MDQwMTE5MTUxOFoX 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09:05:45 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 49DB61CC0E; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:05:43 -0700 (PDT) To: "Marat N.Afanasyev" In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:30:58 +0400." <4AC61CB2.3050801@ksu.ru> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 09:05:43 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20091002160543.49DB61CC0E@ptavv.es.net> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-10-02_08:2009-09-29, 2009-10-02, 2009-10-02 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0910020083 Cc: kama , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi doc misconfusion... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:05:47 -0000 > Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:30:58 +0400 > From: "Marat N.Afanasyev" > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > kama wrote: > > Hi, > > > > there are a lot of different errors in various document regarding acpi > > that are wrong. > > > > In 'man acpi' it says that 'hint.acpi.0.disabled' should be placed in > > loader.conf. > > > > ------------- > > LOADER TUNABLES > > Tunables can be set at the loader(8) prompt before booting the kernel > > or > > stored in /boot/loader.conf. Many of these tunables also have a > > matching > > sysctl(8) entry for access after boot. > > ... > > hint.acpi.0.disabled > > Set this to 1 to disable all of ACPI. If ACPI has been > > disabled > > on your system due to a blacklist entry for your BIOS, you > > can > > set this to 0 to re-enable ACPI for testing. > > ... > > ------------- > > > > > > > > In 'man loader' it says: > > ------------- > > acpi_load > > Unset this to disable automatic loading of the ACPI module. > > See also hint.acpi.0.disabled in device.hints(5). > > ------------- > > > > In 'man device.hints' > > ------------- > > The following example disables the ACPI driver: > > > > hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > > ------------- > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/laptop/article.html page also > > states that it should be in device.hints. > > > > > > Well, these are the ones I have found. There are a lot of misconfusion in > > various forums what to put where and how its done. Maybe its accurate on > > both places, but then that should be noted somewhere. > > > > /Bjorn > > > I was told that there's no difference between loader.conf and > device.hints, so you can place this option in either file This is sort of correct. Hints may be placed in either place with the same results. But there is a difference on how the files, themselves are handled. /boot/loader.conf is never touched by a FreeBSD update, even for major versions. /boot/device.hints is subject to modification between versions. It is not automatically updated, but a new version is included in the /sys/ARCH/conf directory and an update may be required as drivers change. This will delete any custom hints. (E.g. The sio to uart transition on 8.0.) This is why I generally but any hints that really need to survive in /boot/loader.conf. (In my case, I have to disable APIC on my laptop.) -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 17:23:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8BC1065694; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kama@pvp.se) Received: from ms1.as.pvp.se (mail.pvp.se [213.64.187.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF05E8FC1B; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ms1.as.pvp.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4159876; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:23:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ms1.as.pvp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAEE71; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:23:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:23:29 +0200 (CEST) From: kama X-X-Sender: kama@ns1.as.pvp.se To: Kevin Oberman In-Reply-To: <20091002160543.49DB61CC0E@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: <20091002192133.R37424@ns1.as.pvp.se> References: <20091002160543.49DB61CC0E@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "Marat N.Afanasyev" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi doc misconfusion... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:23:31 -0000 On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:30:58 +0400 > > From: "Marat N.Afanasyev" > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > > > kama wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > there are a lot of different errors in various document regarding acpi > > > that are wrong. > > > > > > In 'man acpi' it says that 'hint.acpi.0.disabled' should be placed in > > > loader.conf. > > > > > > ------------- > > > LOADER TUNABLES > > > Tunables can be set at the loader(8) prompt before booting the kernel > > > or > > > stored in /boot/loader.conf. Many of these tunables also have a > > > matching > > > sysctl(8) entry for access after boot. > > > ... > > > hint.acpi.0.disabled > > > Set this to 1 to disable all of ACPI. If ACPI has been > > > disabled > > > on your system due to a blacklist entry for your BIOS, you > > > can > > > set this to 0 to re-enable ACPI for testing. > > > ... > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > In 'man loader' it says: > > > ------------- > > > acpi_load > > > Unset this to disable automatic loading of the ACPI module. > > > See also hint.acpi.0.disabled in device.hints(5). > > > ------------- > > > > > > In 'man device.hints' > > > ------------- > > > The following example disables the ACPI driver: > > > > > > hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > > > ------------- > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/laptop/article.html page also > > > states that it should be in device.hints. > > > > > > > > > Well, these are the ones I have found. There are a lot of misconfusion in > > > various forums what to put where and how its done. Maybe its accurate on > > > both places, but then that should be noted somewhere. > > > > > > /Bjorn > > > > > I was told that there's no difference between loader.conf and > > device.hints, so you can place this option in either file > > This is sort of correct. Hints may be placed in either place with the > same results. But there is a difference on how the files, themselves are > handled. > > /boot/loader.conf is never touched by a FreeBSD update, even for major > versions. /boot/device.hints is subject to modification between > versions. It is not automatically updated, but a new version is included > in the /sys/ARCH/conf directory and an update may be required as drivers > change. This will delete any custom hints. (E.g. The sio to uart > transition on 8.0.) > > This is why I generally but any hints that really need to survive in > /boot/loader.conf. (In my case, I have to disable APIC on my laptop.) But shouldnt this be mentioned somewhere then? To ease the confusion? /Bjorn From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 2 17:35:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27E7106568B; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:35:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9720E8FC14; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n92HZnHw032719 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:35:50 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id A341E1CC0E; Fri, 2 Oct 2009 10:35:48 -0700 (PDT) To: kama In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:23:29 +0200." <20091002192133.R37424@ns1.as.pvp.se> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:35:48 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20091002173548.A341E1CC0E@ptavv.es.net> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-10-02_08:2009-09-29, 2009-10-02, 2009-10-02 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0910020097 Cc: "Marat N.Afanasyev" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: acpi doc misconfusion... X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 17:35:52 -0000 > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 19:23:29 +0200 (CEST) > From: kama > > > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:30:58 +0400 > > > From: "Marat N.Afanasyev" > > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > > > > > kama wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > there are a lot of different errors in various document regarding acpi > > > > that are wrong. > > > > > > > > In 'man acpi' it says that 'hint.acpi.0.disabled' should be placed in > > > > loader.conf. > > > > > > > > ------------- > > > > LOADER TUNABLES > > > > Tunables can be set at the loader(8) prompt before booting the kernel > > > > or > > > > stored in /boot/loader.conf. Many of these tunables also have a > > > > matching > > > > sysctl(8) entry for access after boot. > > > > ... > > > > hint.acpi.0.disabled > > > > Set this to 1 to disable all of ACPI. If ACPI has been > > > > disabled > > > > on your system due to a blacklist entry for your BIOS, you > > > > can > > > > set this to 0 to re-enable ACPI for testing. > > > > ... > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 'man loader' it says: > > > > ------------- > > > > acpi_load > > > > Unset this to disable automatic loading of the ACPI module. > > > > See also hint.acpi.0.disabled in device.hints(5). > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > In 'man device.hints' > > > > ------------- > > > > The following example disables the ACPI driver: > > > > > > > > hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > > > > ------------- > > > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/laptop/article.html page also > > > > states that it should be in device.hints. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, these are the ones I have found. There are a lot of misconfusion in > > > > various forums what to put where and how its done. Maybe its accurate on > > > > both places, but then that should be noted somewhere. > > > > > > > > /Bjorn > > > > > > > I was told that there's no difference between loader.conf and > > > device.hints, so you can place this option in either file > > > > This is sort of correct. Hints may be placed in either place with the > > same results. But there is a difference on how the files, themselves are > > handled. > > > > /boot/loader.conf is never touched by a FreeBSD update, even for major > > versions. /boot/device.hints is subject to modification between > > versions. It is not automatically updated, but a new version is included > > in the /sys/ARCH/conf directory and an update may be required as drivers > > change. This will delete any custom hints. (E.g. The sio to uart > > transition on 8.0.) > > > > This is why I generally but any hints that really need to survive in > > /boot/loader.conf. (In my case, I have to disable APIC on my laptop.) > > But shouldnt this be mentioned somewhere then? To ease the confusion? Sounds like a good idea. Feel free to submit patches/text to the FreeBSD doc folks. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 09:24:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55051065670 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jan.oppolzer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587EA8FC0C for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so1828740fxm.36 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:24:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :message-id; bh=lHiMtW71t0W2CUoDqaEcxokhnntUOfa6L9nOw2nDiGM=; b=ZKFacUoiqzYUH+R0/vaJjWen/ltcJ96PZVIHpyaBJjqrtoii0IG2OccLl3GkJmukGG 9N0apO2LXnDRVyrZUMh8UdsaQ7sPRpZxjU2mdY/CM/UCxg0rk9yaGpleOg4ZL+B2l0NL HCiOVn6MIrhIwFqwUNehnVrOC7EKcep265sLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=Enr6C1N/g3yVLanQ6EESx8KtS3XNXuM/LYjDRUi30JakGg4WCyL3t6e9NG+MDmoH+M VaWR3H6XWEzueWtcfeVW9qS2gJRXHqmuCzmJZfXgK5zPTZl6MVh04c2XfTmjq7vXOSUQ +gTxgpvs/7/gil2rsUrkeAd7O3DQQPwPFIl60= Received: by 10.86.184.35 with SMTP id h35mr3252990fgf.18.1254560204615; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frigg.localnet (frigg.sin.cvut.cz [147.32.107.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 12sm1426060fgg.23.2009.10.03.01.56.42 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Oppolzer To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 10:57:02 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.1 (Linux/2.6.31-gentoo; KDE/4.3.1; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910031057.03060.jan.oppolzer@gmail.com> Cc: Subject: A misunderstanding in FreeBSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:24:15 -0000 Hello, in my opinion, there's a little mistake in FreeBSD Handbook in section 24.3 Portsnap: A Ports Collection Update Tool [1] which can confuse mainly newcomers in FreeBSD. If portsnap was run previously then after 'portsnap fetch' should be executed 'portsnap update' (as noted in 'man portsnap') instead of 'portsnap extract' which is said in the handbook. At the end there's written to execute 'portsnap fetch update' to run both processes consecutively, but it was stated to run 'fetch' and then 'extract'. Which is misleading. I guess it'd be a good idea to mention differences in "extract" and "update" or at least mention they exist and to read manual page for more information which one to use and when. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading- portsnap.html Best regards, Jan Oppolzer From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 09:31:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BF3106566B for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:31:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sonic2000gr@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f209.google.com (mail-ew0-f209.google.com [209.85.219.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D328FC18 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 09:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy5 with SMTP id 5so828655ewy.36 for ; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:31:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b1KR5BHaAIWt/sCdF/yG8HpT+bi5lNbVzHnou6HpY7s=; b=S2xwZHmZvQioUNS/L6MzK6nyMXf8BUjFvB2y1XES9Rqx8qPe+TdVGeswOdHVyJqtzE gQkLlr0te+IiAVqu+BboAP7ZBGWy8xSj/Urfk8FGSQYqHan1Ve3wHiRiOSQKeBhHHjNh fH6KC2a9Uwtavxe2IjFpRfri8q6qMOJJ1P7Tk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=a8kjaWYVRgHnvRD29/MRfsOkB+JY1ZyyzQcJ677F80SVkWXq/eqenScYohK/j3Vv5m allFztsDpgB/MZuO0JkojAmqyjdZQy7TsXsBrElO9VRl4pUBDJla7wSoH51V2L67l+/c vKhZyncB5/Hk8zB7YB51ED1S2bzhLhRV/kmeM= Received: by 10.210.9.12 with SMTP id 12mr4426075ebi.3.1254562284364; Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pulstar.local (athedsl-4464757.home.otenet.gr [94.71.96.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm1388526eyh.0.2009.10.03.02.31.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AC719EA.2030400@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:31:22 +0300 From: Manolis Kiagias User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Oppolzer References: <200910031057.03060.jan.oppolzer@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200910031057.03060.jan.oppolzer@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A misunderstanding in FreeBSD Handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:31:26 -0000 Jan Oppolzer wrote: > Hello, > > in my opinion, there's a little mistake in FreeBSD Handbook in section 24.3 > Portsnap: A Ports Collection Update Tool [1] which can confuse mainly > newcomers in FreeBSD. > > If portsnap was run previously then after 'portsnap fetch' should be executed > 'portsnap update' (as noted in 'man portsnap') instead of 'portsnap extract' > which is said in the handbook. > > At the end there's written to execute 'portsnap fetch update' to run both > processes consecutively, but it was stated to run 'fetch' and then 'extract'. > Which is misleading. > > I guess it'd be a good idea to mention differences in "extract" and "update" or > at least mention they exist and to read manual page for more information which > one to use and when. > > [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading- > portsnap.html > > > Best regards, > Jan Oppolzer > Hi Jan, You are right, the Handbook does not differentiate between extract (which should be used the first time only) and update (to be used on subsequent runs). I'll have a try at rewording this today to get it in line with the man page. Thanks! From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 3 16:17:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F161065692; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:17:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gavin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA028FC19; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gavin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n93GHZRp002929; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:17:35 GMT (envelope-from gavin@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n93GHZmY002925; Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:17:35 GMT (envelope-from gavin) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2009 16:17:35 GMT Message-Id: <200910031617.n93GHZmY002925@freefall.freebsd.org> To: gavin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: gavin@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/139336: ZFS documentation suggestion X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:17:35 -0000 Old Synopsis: a humble suggestion New Synopsis: ZFS documentation suggestion Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: gavin Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Oct 3 16:05:16 UTC 2009 Responsible-Changed-Why: I think this is probably best as a doc PR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=139336