From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 1 13:01:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C3110656C6 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:01:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from flat.berklix.org (flat.berklix.org [83.236.223.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B488FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:01:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A7FA8.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.127.168]) (authenticated bits=0) by flat.berklix.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n11CaF1U000857 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:36:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n11Ca5Vo025701 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:36:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n11CZaHR090343 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2009 13:35:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200902011235.n11CZaHR090343@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: "Julian Stacey" Organization: http://berklix.com BSD Unix Linux Consultancy, Munich Germany User-agent: EXMH on FreeBSD http://berklix.com/free/ X-URL: http://berklix.com In-reply-to: Your message "Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:22:16 +0100." <436c7eda0901291622v35f9d80ewb778d8ca7efb114e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:35:36 +0100 Sender: jhs@berklix.org Subject: Re: Suggestion for "moderation" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:01:09 -0000 Hi, Reference: > From: Jonas Lund > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:22:16 +0100 > Message-id: <436c7eda0901291622v35f9d80ewb778d8ca7efb114e@mail.gmail.com> Jonas Lund wrote: > I've had enough of spam and crackpot-newsletters now. And i'm on the > verge of unsubscribing as i guess instituting full moderation wouldn't > be very practical (i'm sure most people don't get paid for sitting > here) > > Altho just leaving and complaining won't help anybody (and i do love freebsd). > > So.... > Isn't there some kind of auto-moderation system that could be placed > in (Plugin or whatever)? Like delaying the mails for an hour for all > newly subscribed users (so kicking people off the list will force them > to re-list) and then just sending the mail in advance to "moderators" NO. No human censors Please, Latin approx: Quis Custodes Custodiensis. English: Who guards us from the guardians "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely" (I have observed such corruption on a non BSD list) > that would have simple link that would remove the mail from the queue. > (Maybe one hit on the link would delay the mail futher and several > clicks within the timespan would kill it). > > This way message will get through by default but annoying stuff > wouldn't affect everybody. > > Just another 2C Best thing is to first look at which tools & config freebsd.org currently use for their lists. Then look at what other full automatic anti spam tools are ready & available to integrate. ie this whol topic does not belong on hardware@, its a generic background to all lists, so should be discussed with the FreeBSD postmaster team. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail plain ASCII text. HTML & Base64 text are spam. www.asciiribbon.org