From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 15 12:22:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8611C106568B for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:22:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FA78FC1C for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E3AD4809A for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [82.230.142.222]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E1CD4804E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A461CD7E for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:11 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <511CEEC9-7721-4E51-AD7C-A98E59299F07@patpro.net> From: Patrick Proniewski To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4AFDBBA7.8010505@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-807670678; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:24 +0100 References: <1258136580.00183277.1258123203@10.7.7.3> <4AFDBAEB.2020903@FreeBSD.org> <4AFDBBA7.8010505@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:22:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1-807670678 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13 nov. 2009, at 21:03, Alexander Motin wrote: > Alexander Motin wrote: >> Patrick Proniewski wrote: >>> Any PCIe card suggestion is appreciated. >> >> FreeBSD 6.x is already legacy. If you are building something new, you >> should look forward. What I have tested: >> - SiI3124-based - fast and functional. It is actually PCI-X one, but >> there are many boards with built-in PCIe bridges. >> - two SiI3132-based (Adaptec 1420SA and many others) - as cheap =20 >> PCIe x1 > > Oops, I meant Adaptec 1220SA here ^^^. > >> alternative (max 150MB/s per card). These two better supported with =20= >> new >> siis(4) driver on 8.0, but should work on 7.x with ata(4), haven't >> looked lower. >> - First generation of SiI chips (SiI3114). They are quite old - SATA1 >> and PCI, but they are long-time supported and they take all possible >> from PCI bus, and in 66MHz PCI-X slot can give even more. But I have >> heard some negative comments about them. >> - Supermicro SAT2-MV8 on Marvell - recently tested it on 8.0, =20 >> supported >> in 7.x and probably before. Adaptec 1420SA is from the same series. =20= >> But >> they are PCI-X (tested it in PCI). >> - Adaptec 1430SA - PCIe, based on newer Marvell chip. Added basic >> support recently to 8-STABLE. Not supported before. >> - most of chipset-integrated controllers (Intel, NVidia) are really =20= >> not >> bad when working in AHCI mode (they are not limited by bus speed). >> - JMicron-based PCIe x1 adapters. They are cheap, AHCI-compatible and >> not so bad, but limited by bus speed at about 180MB/s per card. I've just found this: Does anybody has given this card a try? Unfortunately I can't find the brand of the chip they are using=85 pat= --Apple-Mail-1-807670678-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 15 15:39:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19191106566B for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:39:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mavbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3518FC13 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so5168505fxm.3 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:39:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=t7N7ClI0ixlHPz+I/d0Ln9MW7da0TkMzILaJwZoikvQ=; b=Nb3459ezu8fpdkbeSqEIHxZYR46VcMk5Jdv5GQIdxfo2s+s3fbZw2Q+jD8MPr1T4nj 6+zZlpZwJcumOUapETE32aBjtO/asH/gU27/+3ODG4PmLpQFo6ZgzT6TCh98TnV+z363 LUgW0CaAqYRTE5wA0Q/kZ8W9IfJ0Xlpd/b+AY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w4yLb5Zmvp3ZXQ2mnzboII0/hs5y81GojTGTX1z/VH9p2OSWWNYRqU0vq9ABbzCcMy WmgEheSjYqNt1GtY6gVljqJ23322j8Gd0IHpwzdc1j/JQmJua9QwezTAWVHDlTwvNWRg wN3l5LdVSrgxFzuA6SIrTM3HtJ1qYDfichBHM= Received: by 10.204.148.88 with SMTP id o24mr2484775bkv.182.1258299541505; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua (pc.mavhome.dp.ua [212.86.226.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm465724fxm.7.2009.11.15.07.39.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:39:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <4B002091.4010609@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:38:57 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090901) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Proniewski References: <1258136580.00183277.1258123203@10.7.7.3> <1258154582.00183317.1258143002@10.7.7.3> <1258154581.00183318.1258143002@10.7.7.3> <1258298591.00183715.1258288202@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1258298591.00183715.1258288202@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 15:39:03 -0000 Patrick Proniewski wrote: > On 13 nov. 2009, at 21:03, Alexander Motin wrote: > >> Alexander Motin wrote: >>> Patrick Proniewski wrote: >>>> Any PCIe card suggestion is appreciated. >>> >>> FreeBSD 6.x is already legacy. If you are building something new, you >>> should look forward. What I have tested: >>> - SiI3124-based - fast and functional. It is actually PCI-X one, but >>> there are many boards with built-in PCIe bridges. >>> - two SiI3132-based (Adaptec 1420SA and many others) - as cheap PCIe x1 >> >> Oops, I meant Adaptec 1220SA here ^^^. >> >>> alternative (max 150MB/s per card). These two better supported with new >>> siis(4) driver on 8.0, but should work on 7.x with ata(4), haven't >>> looked lower. >>> - First generation of SiI chips (SiI3114). They are quite old - SATA1 >>> and PCI, but they are long-time supported and they take all possible >>> from PCI bus, and in 66MHz PCI-X slot can give even more. But I have >>> heard some negative comments about them. >>> - Supermicro SAT2-MV8 on Marvell - recently tested it on 8.0, supported >>> in 7.x and probably before. Adaptec 1420SA is from the same series. But >>> they are PCI-X (tested it in PCI). >>> - Adaptec 1430SA - PCIe, based on newer Marvell chip. Added basic >>> support recently to 8-STABLE. Not supported before. >>> - most of chipset-integrated controllers (Intel, NVidia) are really not >>> bad when working in AHCI mode (they are not limited by bus speed). >>> - JMicron-based PCIe x1 adapters. They are cheap, AHCI-compatible and >>> not so bad, but limited by bus speed at about 180MB/s per card. > > I've just found this: > > > Does anybody has given this card a try? > Unfortunately I can't find the brand of the chip they are using… Looking on picture, I would surmise it can be SiI3132, but price is twice bigger then I would expect from that chip. SiI3132-based ST-Lab A-410 controller in my city costs $29. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 15 21:55:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328061065676; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:55:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03028FC13; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337BDD4804C; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:54:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [82.230.142.222]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28FB6D48094; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:54:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0441CD7E; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:54:56 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <68FCEA9F-3785-4C90-91A2-7B5BAD811EB2@patpro.net> From: Patrick Proniewski To: Alexander Motin In-Reply-To: <4B002091.4010609@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-842022775; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:54:56 +0100 References: <1258136580.00183277.1258123203@10.7.7.3> <1258154582.00183317.1258143002@10.7.7.3> <1258154581.00183318.1258143002@10.7.7.3> <1258298591.00183715.1258288202@10.7.7.3> <4B002091.4010609@FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:55:07 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2-842022775 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15 nov. 2009, at 16:38, Alexander Motin wrote: >> I've just found this: >> = > > >> >> Does anybody has given this card a try? >> Unfortunately I can't find the brand of the chip they are using=85 > > Looking on picture, I would surmise it can be SiI3132, but price is > twice bigger then I would expect from that chip. SiI3132-based ST-Lab > A-410 controller in my city costs $29. Thank you Alexander! By the way, I'm not sure I can trust Belkin here. The "Overview" part =20= is about 120 words longer than the "Specs" part. I'm expecting more =20 specs and less nonsense. pat= --Apple-Mail-2-842022775-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 05:58:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BFE1065670 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-98-108-131-11.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [98.108.131.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354CF8FC0A for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 4DAC9B64F; Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id FAA00360; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:42:40 GMT Message-Id: <200911160542.FAA00360@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:00:43 +0200." <4AFDBAEB.2020903@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:42:40 +0000 From: Dieter Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:42 -0000 >> - SiI3124-based - fast and functional. It is actually PCI-X one, but >> there are many boards with built-in PCIe bridges. Do any of these fit in a x1 slot? >> - two SiI3132-based (Adaptec 1420SA and many others) - as cheap PCIe x1 >> alternative (max 150MB/s per card). These two better supported with new >> siis(4) driver on 8.0, but should work on 7.x with ata(4), haven't >> looked lower. I have the Masscool XWT-PCIE10 (USD20.99 plus shipping from newegg) 3132 card. Works fine on FreeBSD/amd64 7.1. Has both internal and external connectors with jumpers to select which are active. Only 2 drives per card though. :-( >> - First generation of SiI chips (SiI3114). They are quite old - SATA1 >> and PCI, but they are long-time supported and they take all possible >> from PCI bus, and in 66MHz PCI-X slot can give even more. But I have >> heard some negative comments about them. I have a 3512 card in a NetBSD box and it is slow but otherwise works fine. I have read various complaints about 1st gen SiL chips with FreeBSD, so do your homework before getting one for a FreeBSD box. Perhaps the new drivers in 8.0 will fix these problems? >> - JMicron-based PCIe x1 adapters. They are cheap, AHCI-compatible and >> not so bad, but limited by bus speed at about 180MB/s per card. I have a couple of Syba JMB363 cards and they have been trouble from day 1. If I plug them into the 2 PCIe x1 slots the box hangs in firmware. Moving 1 to the x16 slot allows the machine to boot. After a few months both cards have lost a SATA port. The JMB363 provide a PATA channel in addition to the 2 SATA ports. The PATA will connect at UDMA100, and reads fine at that speed, but writes fail unless downgraded to UDMA66. (Yes with the correct length 80 wire ribbon cable.) When rebooting, sometimes one of the cards doesn't show up. Is there some way for FreeBSD to force a proper full init of expansion cards when rebooting? I've also seen a PCI firewire card not get completely reinited when rebooting. Has anyone had good luck with a JMB363 card? I might consider a JMB363 on a different brand card. Last time I searched, I couldn't find any PCIe x1 cards that supported 4 (or more) SATA drives. The closest thing I could find was the JMB363 with 2 SATA plus 2 PATA. (and of course PATA has various fundamental problems) Has anyone found such a card? Yes I know that an x1 slot doesn't have enough bandwidth to run 4 drives at full speed, but x1 is what I have. They make PCI cards with at least 4 SATA ports and PCI slots have even less bandwidth. Port multipliers have the same problem. >> What's about changing SATA1 with SATA2 - I think you won't notice any >> difference. Most of disks are not so fast to congest SATA1, while Conventional rotating disks are approaching 150. Supposedly the SSDs are already saturating 300. 600 is out, but not common yet. The higher speeds would be very useful with port multipliers. I haven't heard of any PMs with 600 yet though. >> other bonuses like NCQ are not supported by 6.4 any way. > oh crap. No NCQ ? 7.x doesn't support NCQ either. :-( I'm waiting impatiently for 8.0 to come out. as I need NCQ. Speaking of which, I've read that some controller/disk combinations have problems with NCQ? Is there a way to turn NCQ on/off on a per-disk basis? From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 07:17:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABF01065698 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2058FC08 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B19AD48056; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:16:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [82.230.142.222]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDA8D4807B; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:16:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECF01CD7E; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:16:55 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <7322FA5F-ABC2-4402-9B25-9BFD20B9C2FD@patpro.net> From: Patrick Proniewski To: Dieter In-Reply-To: <200911160542.FAA00360@sopwith.solgatos.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-875741303; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:16:55 +0100 References: <200911160542.FAA00360@sopwith.solgatos.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:17:05 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4-875741303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 15 nov. 2009, at 22:42, Dieter wrote: > 7.x doesn't support NCQ either. :-( I'm waiting impatiently for > 8.0 to come out. as I need NCQ. Speaking of which, I've read that > some controller/disk combinations have problems with NCQ? Is there > a way to turn NCQ on/off on a per-disk basis? Are you sure 8.0 will support NCQ? I've searched for "NCQ" on the freebsd web site (using google), and found nothing about it's implementation in the system. Wikipedia states that "FreeBSD fully supports AHCI and NCQ since version 8.0" but gives no reference. pat --Apple-Mail-4-875741303-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 13:29:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F79106566B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:29:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0E78FC1B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua [212.40.38.101]) by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id PAA16048; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:15:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua) Message-ID: <4B015086.4050403@icyb.net.ua> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:15:50 +0200 From: Andriy Gapon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090825) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Proniewski References: <200911160542.FAA00360@sopwith.solgatos.com> <7322FA5F-ABC2-4402-9B25-9BFD20B9C2FD@patpro.net> In-Reply-To: <7322FA5F-ABC2-4402-9B25-9BFD20B9C2FD@patpro.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dieter , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:29:06 -0000 on 16/11/2009 09:16 Patrick Proniewski said the following: > On 15 nov. 2009, at 22:42, Dieter wrote: > >> 7.x doesn't support NCQ either. :-( I'm waiting impatiently for >> 8.0 to come out. as I need NCQ. Speaking of which, I've read that >> some controller/disk combinations have problems with NCQ? Is there >> a way to turn NCQ on/off on a per-disk basis? > > Are you sure 8.0 will support NCQ? I've searched for "NCQ" on the > freebsd web site (using google), and found nothing about it's > implementation in the system. > Wikipedia states that "FreeBSD fully supports AHCI and NCQ since version > 8.0" but gives no > reference. See ahci(4) on relevant system. -- Andriy Gapon From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 15:59:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6917106566B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mavbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672988FC1B for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so6160602fxm.3 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:59:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kGT6wThOV+MuOGpGgOmQvvKO4skOu5rFRbeuaurPaHc=; b=SpcExJCEU5SQQkVqjL+iwl3WGeyMt5dGTmKIScKlFdaNWMdW2QIckPfDnSH5zX+ImY 0KLLLLhfnLRBd6c6if11f1pP+XP40BQoLamBubTYMyp67ucQ9Dn5dG1Qa4EbYsUoJRFs R/QiHO21+mdmZVXV5SsBBhd2oX+BaSne3NBaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=A8hc0sI33uW4EbTsmJOhw1AHPLL2GSuPB07Rq498G8OmOA/Xh9rZUlOtTHoNITaevG igpEuOnPECXZ2c16+oSraLVCJlDSXqSrhJ1QasSCEn/w+eXEvzspZD/frWdfJKhwAeUV inFmK2KMhP+xh5wCpV1WwgUQs1kgLFwgD7/bY= Received: by 10.204.24.17 with SMTP id t17mr4098864bkb.142.1258387180739; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:59:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua (pc.mavhome.dp.ua [212.86.226.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 14sm2083903fxm.15.2009.11.16.07.59.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:59:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <4B0176E7.7080204@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:59:35 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090901) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dieter References: <1258363380.00183909.1258351203@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1258363380.00183909.1258351203@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:59:42 -0000 Dieter wrote: >>> - SiI3124-based - fast and functional. It is actually PCI-X one, but >>> there are many boards with built-in PCIe bridges. > > Do any of these fit in a x1 slot? I was surprised, but yes. And as expected, bus limits it performance badly. But it is still works much faster then 3132 at the same bus. >>> - First generation of SiI chips (SiI3114). They are quite old - SATA1 >>> and PCI, but they are long-time supported and they take all possible >>> from PCI bus, and in 66MHz PCI-X slot can give even more. But I have >>> heard some negative comments about them. > > I have a 3512 card in a NetBSD box and it is slow but otherwise works fine. > I have read various complaints about 1st gen SiL chips with FreeBSD, > so do your homework before getting one for a FreeBSD box. Perhaps the > new drivers in 8.0 will fix these problems? I haven't seen original chip errata to be sure, but ata(4) driver now includes some workarounds for this chip. Same time, there is no such quirks for 3114. > 7.x doesn't support NCQ either. :-( I'm waiting impatiently for > 8.0 to come out. as I need NCQ. Speaking of which, I've read that > some controller/disk combinations have problems with NCQ? Is there > a way to turn NCQ on/off on a per-disk basis? It is already possible in HEAD to write quirks for specific device models and firmware revisions. Also to control NCQ usage. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 18:29:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8611065679 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0E88FC24 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-232-83.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.232.83]) by mail35.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAGITQnN011418 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:29:27 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAGITOlL070497; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:29:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAGITOQU070493; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:29:24 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:29:24 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: hardware@freebsd.org, David Wolfskill Message-ID: <20091116182924.GA30969@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20091111173747.GA1150@albert.catwhisker.org> <20091112062708.GA16648@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20091112125903.GA1631@albert.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091112125903.GA1631@albert.catwhisker.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Subject: Re: 7.2-STABLE i386 box crashing -- clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:29:32 -0000 --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-Nov-12 04:59:03 -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: >Yes; the machine is configured to start xdm on transition to >multi--user, as my spouse used to use it as a desktop. Does the problem still appear if you don't start X? Is it running anything unusual when it crashes? >> At this stage, my suggestion would be to try swapping the PSU. > >Thanks. I'll discuss it with the "family CFO." You can't swap it with another of your systems? Even if it doesn't fit neatly into the case, a temporary swap would give you some confidence as to whether it was really faulty or not (especially if the random reboots move to the other system). --=20 Peter Jeremy --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksBmgQACgkQ/opHv/APuId92wCggsgWnh0OE1rVoWLaaDnkDZsW 3GAAn2O+Ru4f3XAbaGu+KtpRTXbsNqLI =/gfQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2fHTh5uZTiUOsy+g-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 19:04:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C891065670 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC188FC15 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAGJ4AWn002763; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAGJ4AFL002762; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:04:10 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20091116190410.GA1589@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20091111173747.GA1150@albert.catwhisker.org> <20091112062708.GA16648@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20091112125903.GA1631@albert.catwhisker.org> <20091116182924.GA30969@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20091116182924.GA30969@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.2-STABLE i386 box crashing -- clues? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:04:14 -0000 --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 05:29:24AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > ... > >Yes; the machine is configured to start xdm on transition to > >multi--user, as my spouse used to use it as a desktop. >=20 > Does the problem still appear if you don't start X? I haven't tried that yet.... > Is it running anything unusual when it crashes? Not that I can tell, no. Though I did just notice that the whines about icmp unreach responses is actually coming from the machine that's crashing ("albert") vs. the firewall box (which is configured to log everything to albert). > >> At this stage, my suggestion would be to try swapping the PSU. > > > >Thanks. I'll discuss it with the "family CFO." >=20 > You can't swap it with another of your systems? Even if it doesn't > fit neatly into the case, a temporary swap would give you some > confidence as to whether it was really faulty or not (especially if > the random reboots move to the other system). I think it's more a matter of "at all" rather than "neatly." :-} I tend to have a variety of hardware, but each machine tends to be from a different era or have other differences that cause each to be a one-off. But I'll see what I can find. In the mean time. tyhe machine crashed this morning after I got in to work -- but wonder of wonders, it came back up again this time. And the typescript file that's capturing the serial console activity showed: fxp0: link state changed to UP Limiting icmp unreach response from 234 to 200 packets/sec FreeBSD/i386 (albert.catwhisker.org) (ttyd0) login: drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xf0000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 drm0: [ITHREAD] Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec Limiting icmp unreach response from 201 to 200 packets/sec panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: c3983000 cpuid =3D 0 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self_wrapper(c0bf0330,e7d168f8,c082cae9,c0c1237c,0,...) at 0xc049e= 9a6 =3D db_trace_self_wrapper+0x26 kdb_backtrace(c0c1237c,0,c0c07dfe,e7d16904,0,...) at 0xc085a239 =3D kdb_bac= ktrace+0x29 panic(c0c07dfe,c3983000,2,e7d169fc,e7d169ec,...) at 0xc082cae9 =3D panic+0x= 119 vm_fault(c1471000,c3983000,2,0,e7d16a7c,...) at 0xc0a6ec88 =3D vm_fault+0x1= 78 trap_pfault(c0d4de20,e7d16ac4,c0b2b675,0,c660cb00,...) at 0xc0b3f60e =3D tr= ap_pfault+0x20e trap(e7d16b3c) at 0xc0b400b5 =3D trap+0x445 calltrap() at 0xc0b22dbb =3D calltrap+0x6 --- trap 0xc, eip =3D 0xc0b37648, esp =3D 0xe7d16b7c, ebp =3D 0xe7d16b88 --- pmap_try_insert_pv_entry(c08b14c4,c63c0cf0,c63c0cf0,e7d16bbc,c08b4b17,...) = at 0xc0b37648 =3D pmap_try_insert_pv_entry+0x48 pmap_copy(c6cd2d74,c69dd350,33f7d000,f4000,33f7d000,...) at 0xc0b3c1e8 =3D = pmap_copy+0x2e8 vmspace_fork(c69dd2c4,0,2,e7d16c5c,bfbfc824,...) at 0xc0a7698b =3D vmspace_= fork+0x42b fork1(c63c3b40,14,0,e7d16c78,0,...) at 0xc08051ee =3D fork1+0x30e fork(c63c3b40,e7d16cfc,c,8001550d,369e99,...) at 0xc0806b79 =3D fork+0x29 syscall(e7d16d38) at 0xc0b3f9c5 =3D syscall+0x335 Xint0x80_syscall() at 0xc0b22e20 =3D Xint0x80_syscall+0x20 --- syscall (2, FreeBSD ELF32, fork), eip =3D 0x340cde4b, esp =3D 0xbfbfc7c= c, ebp =3D 0xbfbfc858 --- Uptime: 3d4h1m43s Physical memory: 2033 MB Dumping 179 MB: 164 148 132 116 100 84 68 52 36 20 4 Dump complete Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Rebooting... Taking a quick look at vmcore.1, I see: albert(7.2-S)[5] kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel vmcore.1 GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] =2E.. [above stuff...] =2E.. #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 196 pcpu.h: No such file or directory. in pcpu.h (kgdb) bt #0 doadump () at pcpu.h:196 #1 0xc082c817 in boot (howto=3D260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:4= 18 #2 0xc082cb22 in panic (fmt=3DVariable "fmt" is not available. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:574 #3 0xc0a6ec88 in vm_fault (map=3D0xc1471000, vaddr=3D3281530880,=20 fault_type=3D2 '\002', fault_flags=3D0) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_fault.c:2= 77 #4 0xc0b3f60e in trap_pfault (frame=3D0xe7d16b3c, usermode=3D0, eva=3D3281= 531764) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:852 #5 0xc0b400b5 in trap (frame=3D0xe7d16b3c) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.= c:541 #6 0xc0b22dbb in calltrap () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s:166 #7 0xc0b37648 in pmap_try_insert_pv_entry (pmap=3D0xc6cd2d74, va=3D8721408= 00,=20 m=3D0xc2be5110) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c:2229 #8 0xc0b3c1e8 in pmap_copy (dst_pmap=3D0xc6cd2d74, src_pmap=3D0xc69dd350,= =20 dst_addr=3D871878656, len=3D999424, src_addr=3D871878656) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/pmap.c:3677 #9 0xc0a7698b in vmspace_fork (vm1=3D0xc69dd2c4) at /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2552 #10 0xc08051ee in fork1 (td=3D0xc63c3b40, flags=3DVariable "flags" is not a= vailable. ) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:288 #11 0xc0806b79 in fork (td=3D0xc63c3b40, uap=3D0xe7d16cfc) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_fork.c:107 #12 0xc0b3f9c5 in syscall (frame=3D0xe7d16d38) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:1101 #13 0xc0b22e20 in Xint0x80_syscall () at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/exception.s= :262 #14 0x00000033 in ?? () Previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) If there is an issue with the PSU, I'm not sure there's much to be gained by spending much time on that dump -- I understand that there's not much information to trust if the PSU is flaky. Thanks for your help! Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksBoikACgkQmprOCmdXAD3h+wCfRMXcxH7UUqleSYnMMiHoRI0A tg0An2+iZqnyBzgEYu89l96nJUY4sS1T =TLek -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 16 21:31:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48921065670 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:31:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EBB8FC1A for ; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 03AC046EAE; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:31:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from jhbbsd.hudson-trading.com (unknown [209.249.190.8]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 05EDC8A020; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:31:09 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, David Wolfskill Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:38:26 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20091114052429.GF1649@albert.catwhisker.org> In-Reply-To: <20091114052429.GF1649@albert.catwhisker.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200911161538.26899.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:31:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.1 at bigwig.baldwin.cx X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=4.2 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bigwig.baldwin.cx Cc: Subject: Re: Msg: no prefetched decode (going from stable/6 -> stable/7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:31:10 -0000 On Saturday 14 November 2009 12:24:29 am David Wolfskill wrote: > I admit that I don't know what "no prefetched decode" means in this > context, or what I can or should do about it. > > But the same hardware running stable/6 does not issue that whine, and > the laptop in question does see the additional PCI devices on the > docking station when running stable/6, but issues the above whine, and > fails to "see" the additional PCI devices in the docking station running > any of stable/7, stable/8, or head (9.0-CURRENT). > > And while there are certainly advances in many respects in going to > newer versions of FreeBSD, I'm a little hard-pressed to understand how > this qualifies. :-} > > A bit of background: > > My laptop is parts from 3 Dell laptops -- 2 Inspiron 8200s and 1 > Latitude C840. I use the FreeBSD bootloader, and have 4 distinct > bootable slices on the disk. At this time: > > * slice 1: / and /usr for stable/6 > * slice 2: / and /usr for stable/7 > * slice 4: / and /usr for stable/8 > * slice 4: / and /usr for head (9.0-CURRENT); also swap, as well as a > few other partitions (e.g., /var) that are mounted to the > same place regardless of which slice is booted. > > For last night's BAFUG meeting, Julian had volunteered to demonstrate > vimage. He needed access to a machine running stable/8 or head with > multiple NICs. > > I volunteered the use of my laptop, as it has a couple of NICs in its > chassis, and I recalled that when I had run stable/6, FreeBSD saw the > wired NIC in the docking station. > > So I brought a couple of PCI NICs to stick in the dockinig station, > figuring that would give us 5 NICs (not counting Firewire -- or > anything I could shove in a PCCard slot), which should be adequate. > > But as I was building stable/8 (running stable/7 at teh time), I noticed > that "ifconfig" output didn't show the additional 3 NICs. > > So this evening, I booted each of the slices in turn to single user > mode, then (in each case) entered: > > * fsck -p && mount -a > * csh > * uname -a >/var/tmp/pciconf.N > * pciconf -lv >>!$ > * dmesg >/vat/tmp/dmesg.N > > (where "N" was one of "6", "7", "8", or "9", according to the version of > FreeBSD being run at the time). > > I've attached the resulting files. > > Here's the tail end of diff -u pciconf.{6,7}: > > ... > -iwi0@pci2:3:0: class=0x028000 card=0x27218086 chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 > +iwi0@pci0:2:3:0: class=0x028000 card=0x27218086 chip=0x42208086 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 > vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > - device = 'MPCI3B driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG' > + device = 'driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG (MPCI3B)' > class = network > -pcib3@pci2:12:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00221011 rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 > +pcib3@pci0:2:12:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00221011 rev=0x04 hdr=0x01 > vendor = 'Digital Equipment Corporation' > - device = '21150-AA PCI to PCI Bridge' > + device = 'PCI-PCI Bridge (DC21150-AA)' > class = bridge > subclass = PCI-PCI > -xl1@pci3:1:0: class=0x020000 card=0x905510b7 chip=0x905510b7 rev=0x30 hdr=0x00 > - vendor = '3COM Corp, Networking Division' > - device = '3C905-TX Fast Etherlink 10/100 PCI TX NIC' > - class = network > - subclass = ethernet > -dc0@pci3:2:0: class=0x020000 card=0xf0041385 chip=0x000211ad rev=0x20 hdr=0x00 > - vendor = 'Lite-On Communications Inc' > - device = 'KNE110TX Kingston EtheRx KNE110TX PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter' > - class = network > - subclass = ethernet > -atapci0@pci3:5:0: class=0x01018f card=0x06461095 chip=0x06461095 rev=0x07 hdr=0x00 > - vendor = 'Silicon Image Inc (Was: CMD Technology Inc)' > - device = 'PCI-0646 EIDE Adapter (Single FIFO)' > - class = mass storage > - subclass = ATA > -ahc0@pci3:7:0: class=0x010000 card=0x78809004 chip=0x80789004 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 > - vendor = 'Adaptec Inc' > - device = 'AIC-7880P Ultra/Ultra Wide SCSI Chipset' > - class = mass storage > - subclass = SCSI > -xl2@pci3:8:0: class=0x020000 card=0x00a81028 chip=0x920010b7 rev=0x6c hdr=0x00 > - vendor = '3COM Corp, Networking Division' > - device = '3C905 CX-TX-M Fast EtherLink for PC Management NIC' > - class = network > - subclass = ethernet > > And here's the part of the output from "diff -u dmesg.{6,7}" that > inspired the Subject: > > ... > @@ -381,172 +412,34 @@ > iwi0: bpf attached > iwi0: bpf attached > iwi0: [MPSAFE] > +iwi0: [ITHREAD] > iwi0: 11b rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps > iwi0: 11g rates: 1Mbps 2Mbps 5.5Mbps 11Mbps 6Mbps 9Mbps 12Mbps 18Mbps 24Mbps 36Mbps 48Mbps 54Mbps > pcib3: at device 12.0 on pci2 > +pcib3: domain 0 > pcib3: secondary bus 3 > pcib3: subordinate bus 3 > pcib3: I/O decode 0xf000-0xffff > pcib3: memory decode 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff > -pcib3: prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.5.INTA at func 0: 11 > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.1.INTA at func 0: 11 > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.2.INTA at func 0: 11 > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.7.INTA at func 0: 11 > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.8.INTA at func 0: 11 > +pcib3: no prefetched decode In this case, newer message is just more correct. Notice that in the old printf the ending address is less than the starting address for the prefetch range. 7 is just smart enough to print this out more correctly. I do wonder if 7 does better if you disable ACPI? I'm curious if ACPI somehow thinks that the PCI device is not enabled. Presumably it would not have made it this far though if that were the case. Can you do something like 'pciconf -r pci0:3:1:0 0x0:0x40' under a working (6) and broken (7+) kernel with the docking station attached? -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 17 04:06:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744F7106566B; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:06:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8588FC19; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAH467xo005387; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAH4673x005386; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:06:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:06:07 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20091117040607.GG1589@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20091114052429.GF1649@albert.catwhisker.org> <200911161538.26899.jhb@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9Iq5ULCa7nGtWwZS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200911161538.26899.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Msg: no prefetched decode (going from stable/6 -> stable/7) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, David Wolfskill List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:06:08 -0000 --9Iq5ULCa7nGtWwZS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 03:38:26PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: > ... > > Here's the tail end of diff -u pciconf.{6,7}: > >=20 > > ... > > -iwi0@pci2:3:0: class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x27218086 chip=3D0x42208086 re= v=3D0x05=20 > hdr=3D0x00 > > +iwi0@pci0:2:3:0: class=3D0x028000 card=3D0x27218086 chip=3D0x422= 08086=20 > rev=3D0x05 hdr=3D0x00 > > vendor =3D 'Intel Corporation' > > - device =3D 'MPCI3B driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG' > > + device =3D 'driverIntel PRO/Wireless 2200BG (MPCI3B)' > > class =3D network > > -pcib3@pci2:12:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 chip=3D0x002= 21011=20 > rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x01 > > +pcib3@pci0:2:12:0: class=3D0x060400 card=3D0x00000000 chip=3D0x002= 21011=20 > rev=3D0x04 hdr=3D0x01 > > vendor =3D 'Digital Equipment Corporation' > > - device =3D '21150-AA PCI to PCI Bridge' > > + device =3D 'PCI-PCI Bridge (DC21150-AA)' > > class =3D bridge > > subclass =3D PCI-PCI > > -xl1@pci3:1:0: class=3D0x020000 card=3D0x905510b7 chip=3D0x905510b7 re= v=3D0x30=20 > hdr=3D0x00 > > - vendor =3D '3COM Corp, Networking Division' > > - device =3D '3C905-TX Fast Etherlink 10/100 PCI TX NIC' > > - class =3D network > > - subclass =3D ethernet > > ... > > pcib3: memory decode 0xfa000000-0xfbffffff > > -pcib3: prefetched decode 0xfff00000-0xfffff > > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.5.INTA at func 0: 11 > > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.1.INTA at func 0: 11 > > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.2.INTA at func 0: 11 > > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.7.INTA at func 0: 11 > > -ACPI: Found matching pin for 3.8.INTA at func 0: 11 > > +pcib3: no prefetched decode >=20 > In this case, newer message is just more correct. Notice that in the old= =20 > printf the ending address is less than the starting address for the prefe= tch=20 > range. 7 is just smart enough to print this out more correctly. I do wo= nder=20 > if 7 does better if you disable ACPI? I'm curious if ACPI somehow thinks= =20 > that the PCI device is not enabled. Presumably it would not have made it= =20 > this far though if that were the case. OK; I haven't yet tried disabling ACPI. > Can you do something like 'pciconf -r=20 > pci0:3:1:0 0x0:0x40' under a working (6) and broken (7+) kernel with the= =20 > docking station attached? Can do, thanks! So, first, running: FreeBSD g1-108.catwhisker.org 6.4-STABLE FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE #700 r199014: S= at Nov 7 04:28:00 PST 2009 root@g1-101.catwhisker.org:/common/S1/obj/u= sr/src/sys/CANARY i386 I issued: sudo pciconf -r pci2:12:0 0x0:0x40 sudo pciconf -r pci3:1:0 0x0:0x40 (The first was the address of the PCI-PCI bridge; the second, that of the xl1 NIC.) Result: 00221011 02900107 06040004 00012008 00000000 00000000 20030302 2280f1f1=20 fbf0fa00 0001fff1 00000000 00000000 00000000 000000dc 00000000 02060000=20 02000000=20 905510b7 02100117 02000030 00002008 0000fc81 fafffc00 00000000 00000000=20 00000000 00000000 00000000 905510b7 fb000000 000000dc 00000000 0a0a010b=20 00000000=20 Then, running: FreeBSD g1-110.catwhisker.org 7.2-STABLE FreeBSD 7.2-STABLE #9 r199319: Mon= Nov 16 06:04:38 PST 2009 root@g1-108.catwhisker.org:/common/S2/obj/usr= /src/sys/CANARY i386 I first tried the same commands as above, and got: 00221011 82900107 06040004 00012008 00000000 00000000 20030302 2280f1f1=20 fbf0fa00 0001fff1 00000000 00000000 00000000 000000dc 00000000 06060000=20 02000000=20 pciconf: ioctl(PCIOCREAD): Operation not supported by device Then I realized that the designation of the PCI-PCI bridge was different under stable/7 than it was under stable/6, so I tried: sudo pciconf -r pci0:2:12:0 0x0:0x40 sudo pciconf -r pci0:3:1:0 0x0:0x40 and got: 00221011 82900107 06040004 00012008 00000000 00000000 20030302 2280f1f1=20 fbf0fa00 0001fff1 00000000 00000000 00000000 000000dc 00000000 06060000=20 02000000=20 pciconf: ioctl(PCIOCREAD): Operation not supported by device Was that useful? It appears that "pci2:12:0 0x0:0x40" looks quite a bit like "pci0:2:12:0 0x0:0x40". Coincidence? Aliases? Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Depriving a girl or boy of an opportunity for education is evil. See http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --9Iq5ULCa7nGtWwZS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksCIS4ACgkQmprOCmdXAD2CBwCfSPOZFymb/5T6JFLHO7EPRGyw z3sAn0gA/IWAxUjgNgjv4Ov18AP0+ys/ =5ggg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9Iq5ULCa7nGtWwZS-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 17 05:20:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3669C106566C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-98-108-131-11.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [98.108.131.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864FD8FC0A for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 0EC79B650; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:15:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id UAA02994; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:46:11 GMT Message-Id: <200911162046.UAA02994@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:59:35 +0200." <4B0176E7.7080204@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:46:11 PST From: Dieter Cc: Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:20:56 -0000 In message <4B0176E7.7080204@FreeBSD.org>, Alexander Motin writes: > >>> - SiI3124-based - fast and functional. It is actually PCI-X one, but > >>> there are many boards with built-in PCIe bridges. > > > > Do any of these fit in a x1 slot? > > I was surprised, but yes. My google-fu fails me. Any make/model, URLs, or keywords? > And as expected, bus limits it performance > badly. But it is still works much faster then 3132 at the same bus. Hmmm, I must not have tested both disks at once before on the 3132: One at a time: dd if=/dev/ad18 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null 1048576000 bytes transferred in 8.807009 secs (119061534 bytes/sec) dd if=/dev/ad20 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null 1048576000 bytes transferred in 8.800526 secs (119149243 bytes/sec) Two at once: dd if=/dev/ad18 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null & dd if=/dev/ad20 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null 1048576000 bytes transferred in 13.766050 secs (76171160 bytes/sec) 1048576000 bytes transferred in 13.799268 secs (75987799 bytes/sec) so 152 MB/s total rather than the expected ~238. PCIe x1 slot is supposed to be good for 250 MB/s, so it ought to be able to max out both disks at once, or at least get close. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 17 05:20:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551E11065670 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@sopwith.solgatos.com) Received: from sopwith.solgatos.com (pool-98-108-131-11.ptldor.fios.verizon.net [98.108.131.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9674E8FC0C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by sopwith.solgatos.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id 3864AB651; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:15:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sopwith.solgatos.com (8.8.8/6.24) id VAA03618; Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:14:59 GMT Message-Id: <200911162114.VAA03618@sopwith.solgatos.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 15 Nov 2009 13:22:24 +0100." <511CEEC9-7721-4E51-AD7C-A98E59299F07@patpro.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:14:59 PST From: Dieter Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 05:20:56 -0000 In message <511CEEC9-7721-4E51-AD7C-A98E59299F07@patpro.net>, Patrick Proniewski writes: > I've just found this: > > > Does anybody has given this card a try? > Unfortunately I can't find the brand of the chip they are using=85 All I get is: "The system is encountering an unusual condition. Please try later." It was doing this yesterday also. Wonder what they mean by later. I guess I should not buy any web servers from Belkin. :-) From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 17 10:34:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC508106566B for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:34:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mavbsd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f220.google.com (mail-bw0-f220.google.com [209.85.218.220]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585438FC16 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz20 with SMTP id 20so6720165bwz.14 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:34:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=bamM6cISmfrDNJaVHh9Az0Vz7G28s8hEEOEjU3Wl7zc=; b=VeOuS3eEob3oh3X2La/ZS4MpPqYjfqBQ81YiAvlznh2k94ZKiTWH3jdxsx3RVNj4FV BnjoHhzS48yRsTlDhq15StWnNF44dNLjzqAkny78BDsUPHSEwK703OkDhqceCWBI0/kx TlxHmKmY8/J5eH3Q/HNbkCALs9bKqoocXD6Cg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=g4PoBLgIch7p8q6TTmPbwuXQ8/9iFbEMJCCmNGLlT0Ahf5i0PU3vrOMTaC7jxxsxnB SjcAjzoGfBSXhMEiHVOSCbibxD/I3JEF6l8SeeDgIPHwG7MXgncYs4XPApGy0ZuZIV3k xcuRV19Ksp8O71aqqKKrNvJiU48c/LQBFBFEc= Received: by 10.204.48.194 with SMTP id s2mr5652602bkf.210.1258454082375; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua (pc.mavhome.dp.ua [212.86.226.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm325214fxm.10.2009.11.17.02.34.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:34:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <4B027C3E.7020700@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:34:38 +0200 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090901) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dieter References: <1258446183.00184282.1258435802@10.7.7.3> In-Reply-To: <1258446183.00184282.1258435802@10.7.7.3> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 1405 on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:34:44 -0000 Dieter wrote: > In message <4B0176E7.7080204@FreeBSD.org>, Alexander Motin writes: >>>>> - SiI3124-based - fast and functional. It is actually PCI-X one, but >>>>> there are many boards with built-in PCIe bridges. >>> Do any of these fit in a x1 slot? >> I was surprised, but yes. > > My google-fu fails me. Any make/model, URLs, or keywords? Syba PCI Express SATA II 4 x Ports RAID Controller Card SY-PEX40008 http://www.amazon.com/Syba-Express-Ports-Controller-SY-PEX40008/dp/B002R0DZWQ/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1258452902&sr=1-22 >> And as expected, bus limits it performance >> badly. But it is still works much faster then 3132 at the same bus. > > Hmmm, I must not have tested both disks at once before on the 3132: > > One at a time: > > dd if=/dev/ad18 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null > 1048576000 bytes transferred in 8.807009 secs (119061534 bytes/sec) > > dd if=/dev/ad20 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null > 1048576000 bytes transferred in 8.800526 secs (119149243 bytes/sec) > > Two at once: > > dd if=/dev/ad18 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null & dd if=/dev/ad20 bs=1m count=1000 of=/dev/null > 1048576000 bytes transferred in 13.766050 secs (76171160 bytes/sec) > 1048576000 bytes transferred in 13.799268 secs (75987799 bytes/sec) > > so 152 MB/s total rather than the expected ~238. PCIe x1 slot is supposed to > be good for 250 MB/s, so it ought to be able to max out both disks at once, > or at least get close. I have close numbers. 250MB/s is actually performance of the physical level. Logical level also creates overhead of somewhere about 30-40 bytes per transfer. As soon as most of desktop chipsets limited with 128bytes transfers, it also shouldn't be forgotten. The interesting fact I have seen yesterday, SiI3132 is able to read 150MB/s, but write 170MB/s. I am not PCIe expert, but looks like transfer capabilities could be asymmetric. Also, and as soon as PCIe is duplex, I've also seen 110MB/s read from one drive, plus 100MB/s write to another, running at the same time. -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 01:32:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE6E106566C for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:32:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171C78FC22 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 22so4708eye.9 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:32:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=uRhuORGBOPJGCilQsBvRT+JBNkAlZih4+H0dKmfHtro=; b=q0rNV/PQZnCna93lCMj2Ybkm8Hbr18y8EhkishJayqf/W9q9pJoV0NKIcJK1MyDkIX u5o7ErqqxEVQTsLDKwPBISGqIM/33w6uF5ySepRx+RPVxChl3dY2wFyKhXk0VKcHnMSe rPegInKRVXjZ2hAnXKeGKD7OnXf/TteEy+fV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=xSLVvvlpW2ra9IrYJgQFI7rgv/EBuQ5pqbgEM3Ya4dL4Vp3OCSTSM8vSgPSsP800ff XB4wdB5cc4QvznJLEHs+5xy7ucqAtBnggghteg/P9NWvfdgjkDRAAqsE0KCeBiJSctm1 ZlsX93Xwg2FCJyOcZoiiUmFwCorUqjnuB5Y9k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.109.148 with SMTP id j20mr1600946ebp.2.1258507946107; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:32:26 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:32:06 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:32:27 -0000 Hello all, A project I'm working on requires a really small box (at most 15x9x3cm in size, but ideally smaller) that's capable of running one of the four BSDs. The catch is that it must have its own battery supply capable of powering the system for at least 5 hours. The other major requirements are one RS-232 and at least one USB ports. The battery should be recharged through the USB port. If there is a separate power cord, I will have to somehow join it and the usb cable into a single non-usb connector (which I'd like to avoid if at all possible). Finally, it must support some kind of removable storage (e.g. CF card). This system will essentially be a portable translator of one type of communication protocol to another with data flowing between the RS-232 and USB ports. Obviously, I don't need any video output or any kind of input. Just need a tiny box with two cables coming out of it. Do you know of anything that might work? - Max From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 09:37:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC94F1065698 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Jiri.Smejkal@cnw.cz) Received: from mail.cnw.cz (mail.cnw.cz [88.86.103.51]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A76C8FC18 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:37:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [193.179.199.36] (helo=fw.cnw.cz) by mail.cnw.cz with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NAgxl-000OGv-Iv for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:36:33 +0100 Received: from SRVEX.cnw.local ([fe80::c8f3:3e98:e3cb:22f9]) by SRVEX.cnw.local ([fe80::c8f3:3e98:e3cb:22f9%10]) with mapi; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:36:55 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Ji=F8=ED_Smejkal?= To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:36:56 +0100 Thread-Topic: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD Thread-Index: Acpn7wfguOvaB0usR4+gavmJkDJAQAAQSeHA Message-ID: <0FFC914A57259D4EBB4C448E8A8ECF15201B47DE46@SRVEX.cnw.local> References: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: cs-CZ Content-Language: cs-CZ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: cs-CZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:37:07 -0000 Hi Maxim, What about ALIX 3D board www.pcengines.ch - 160x100x25mm, 500MHz AMD Geode = LX2. I'm using it with FBSD 6,7,8. Single power supply 7-20V - ideal for Pb= accu. Jiri Smejkal -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@fre= ebsd.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Khitrov Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:32 AM To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD Hello all, A project I'm working on requires a really small box (at most 15x9x3cm in size, but ideally smaller) that's capable of running one of the four BSDs. The catch is that it must have its own battery supply capable of powering the system for at least 5 hours. The other major requirements are one RS-232 and at least one USB ports. The battery should be recharged through the USB port. If there is a separate power cord, I will have to somehow join it and the usb cable into a single non-usb connector (which I'd like to avoid if at all possible). Finally, it must support some kind of removable storage (e.g. CF card). This system will essentially be a portable translator of one type of communication protocol to another with data flowing between the RS-232 and USB ports. Obviously, I don't need any video output or any kind of input. Just need a tiny box with two cables coming out of it. Do you know of anything that might work? - Max _______________________________________________ freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hardware To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hardware-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 11:20:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0F81065670 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:20:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mkhitrov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f227.google.com (mail-fx0-f227.google.com [209.85.220.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A498FC22 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:20:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fxm27 with SMTP id 27so1086137fxm.3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:20:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EiwG7Bb6YPaRKEXVFGQBPPxv5mAL+vsNr4tt0+20qx0=; b=rPcaTf/T7DORcPc3jpSuWlJLfqH4vjpViC7yuH/+pONSWPuPMt9QEtOs7sqvE9JRs6 DcBomroMgVQZEJEUDoeHzKoIBrFhqIrb4Cfuc7TMQyiktjw2gxtBAZGrxLwk1BmC7sds fh6ABfx0Ms4I68UmnlEfEHRoDvirAZb5mEAzk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kw3Q0Yomgyk8vcOHqgmG1t1QnRrdX+R1OcOmf8skh1inIMIGgAA1LCFpqcv5o4jmgf 6VoLxs/eTfMejKtrRuBpy2RVaZIxeqtvb47k8k+l0Za3AeZbYu4dlWSNMRymfu7KqxNI BBxUEDtxm0KqVOd4mywkzhcMWVaH7rP2w2aoU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.23.155 with SMTP id r27mr1738018ebb.28.1258543239113; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:20:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0FFC914A57259D4EBB4C448E8A8ECF15201B47DE46@SRVEX.cnw.local> References: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> <0FFC914A57259D4EBB4C448E8A8ECF15201B47DE46@SRVEX.cnw.local> From: Maxim Khitrov Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:20:19 -0500 Message-ID: <26ddd1750911180320l574714fdv54f4dda76703ad1a@mail.gmail.com> To: =?UTF-8?B?SmnFmcOtIFNtZWprYWw=?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:20:41 -0000 2009/11/18 Ji=C5=99=C3=AD Smejkal : > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@f= reebsd.org] On Behalf Of Maxim Khitrov > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:32 AM > To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org > Subject: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD > > Hello all, > > A project I'm working on requires a really small box (at most 15x9x3cm > in size, but ideally smaller) that's capable of running one of the > four BSDs. > > The catch is that it must have its own battery supply capable of > powering the system for at least 5 hours. The other major requirements > are one RS-232 and at least one USB ports. The battery should be > recharged through the USB port. If there is a separate power cord, I > will have to somehow join it and the usb cable into a single non-usb > connector (which I'd like to avoid if at all possible). Finally, it > must support some kind of removable storage (e.g. CF card). > > This system will essentially be a portable translator of one type of > communication protocol to another with data flowing between the RS-232 > and USB ports. Obviously, I don't need any video output or any kind of > input. Just need a tiny box with two cables coming out of it. Do you > know of anything that might work? > > - Max > > Hi Maxim, > > What about ALIX 3D board www.pcengines.ch - 160x100x25mm, 500MHz AMD Geod= e LX2. I'm using it with FBSD 6,7,8. Single power supply 7-20V - ideal for = Pb accu. > > Jiri Smejkal These weren't designed for use with a battery. That's the most difficult part of finding what I need. There are plenty boards out there that have all the right features, but so far I couldn't find anything that can work for a few hours without an AC power source. - Max From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 17:53:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076F61065694 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:53:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beckman@angryox.com) Received: from nog.angryox.com (nog.angryox.com [70.164.19.87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A1A8FC12 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nog.angryox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nog.angryox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AEE2C3D00; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:35:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=angryox.com; h=date:from :to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type; s=powerfulgood; bh=0HTS6Np7DANhrwbtntv5QzgtpyI=; b= pax1nytojg/7CWEk4YpEgyVde5cq+bbGREJmsJ7U8u8xVDE8TKGRx9Fv0XfcrMqg 0Hd5h5zOYWENO22yg51z9l6w6itiagbIjGKgIEBpPtgPpaqxfortnOC29JUqjzfH Lnu/rkRiyIcw6JpzAx/04MMoNd3R6i0HGgsiDo/TYDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=angryox.com; h=date:from:to :cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=powerfulgood; b=IMZw+KsGzMdMLQVqu02gmvej 5TtQqyU1eQYjirAQIYQaujpDCU6UJkn6qv22C/bZHvO0BHBo/z3+6A5ncLclZSWW mXHDnBamoM1uWtZ7zET3aO0dqTpEv06lpJMkn/to9Wpp90efEjPY+ambn1oGpfoY Mkl6npQGVAmOKG7ymS8= Received: by nog.angryox.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6ED6C2C3CFE; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nog.angryox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DD312C3CF8; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:08 -0500 From: Peter Beckman To: Maxim Khitrov In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750911180320l574714fdv54f4dda76703ad1a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> <0FFC914A57259D4EBB4C448E8A8ECF15201B47DE46@SRVEX.cnw.local> <26ddd1750911180320l574714fdv54f4dda76703ad1a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , =?UTF-8?Q?Ji=C5=99=C3=AD_Smejkal?= Subject: Re: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:53:30 -0000 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > These weren't designed for use with a battery. That's the most > difficult part of finding what I need. There are plenty boards out > there that have all the right features, but so far I couldn't find > anything that can work for a few hours without an AC power source. Don't look for a whole computer that meets your needs, start looking for computers that meet your needs and then look for a PSU that can accept a battery input. http://www.epn-online.com/page/35052/130w-battery-backup-psu.html Not sure if Google uses a PSU from a commercial manufacturer or rolls their own, but their PSU's have a built in battery for each racked computer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Beckman Internet Guy beckman@angryox.com http://www.angryox.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 18:51:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537121065676 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EBE8FC1B for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:51:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7298F7E9F2; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAIIWWi8020678; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:32:32 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Peter Beckman From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:35:08 EST." Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:32:32 +0000 Message-ID: <20677.1258569152@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: Maxim Khitrov , =?UTF-8?Q?Ji=C5=99=C3=AD_Smejkal?= , "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:51:55 -0000 In message , Peter Beckman writes: >On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > http://www.epn-online.com/page/35052/130w-battery-backup-psu.html For the effects we are talking about, this is much more relevant: http://www.mini-box.com/DC-DC -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 19 13:46:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1AD10656A4 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEA18FC0C for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:46:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC5ED48015 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:46:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [82.230.142.222]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100D5D4806C for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:46:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664B21CCCD for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:45:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <8DEEC192-6A98-4487-A6D2-5367649F4C2D@patpro.net> From: Patrick Proniewski To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--989187115; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:46:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: what is the good geometry for disk WD10EADS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:46:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1--989187115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I've just added a WD10EADS disk in my FreeBSD box () My mother board is few years old and supports only SATA I, so the drive is recognized as SATA150 (which is fine): ad6: 953869MB at ata3-master SATA150 Unfortunately, I'm unable to find the right geometry in order to format/label the disk. Using sysintall interface to handle the new disk yields to this kind of alerts: (1st alert) WARNING: A geometry of 1938021/16/63 for ad6 is incorrect ... (2nd alert) WARNING: A geometry of 121601/255/63 for ad6 is incorrect ... (3rd alert) WARNING: A geometry of 121601/255/63 for ad6 is incorrect ... (ad lib) So, the software tries to guess the right geometry, but fails and stick with wrong numbers (121601/255/63) I have this: # diskinfo -v ad6 ad6 512 # sectorsize 1000204886016 # mediasize in bytes (932G) 1953525168 # mediasize in sectors 1938021 # Cylinders according to firmware. 16 # Heads according to firmware. 63 # Sectors according to firmware. But fdisk thinks it's not good. And mounting the formated disk fails (121601/255/63): # mount /dev/ad6s1c /backup mount: /dev/ad6s1c on /backup: incorrect super block I don't know where to look, the BIOS says nothing about the geometry (unless I've missed something). It's on LBA mode. patpro --Apple-Mail-1--989187115-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 19 14:10:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A6A106566C for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:10:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from patpro@patpro.net) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (smtp5-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516238FC12 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp5-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2676D480AB for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:10:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from boleskine.patpro.net (boleskine.patpro.net [82.230.142.222]) by smtp5-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B093D480BB for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:10:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by boleskine.patpro.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA77B1CCCD for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:10:04 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: Patrick Proniewski To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <8DEEC192-6A98-4487-A6D2-5367649F4C2D@patpro.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--987718601; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:10:38 +0100 References: <8DEEC192-6A98-4487-A6D2-5367649F4C2D@patpro.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: what is the good geometry for disk WD10EADS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:10:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--987718601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit few more info: On 19 nov. 2009, at 14:46, Patrick Proniewski wrote: > And mounting the formated disk fails (121601/255/63): > > # mount /dev/ad6s1c /backup > mount: /dev/ad6s1c on /backup: incorrect super block This is obviously wrong, 'c' partition represents the slice, and should not be available for mounting. I've messed up with fdisk/ disklabel (forgot to quit sysinstall between the two steps). I've found a japanese site that states that the correct geometry for WD10EADS could be 16383/16/63 (if the google translation is ok). I've tried, and so far the disk properly mounts. I'm still interested in a way to get the right geometry on FreeBSD, for this drive. patpro --Apple-Mail-2--987718601-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 20 07:59:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA341065672 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:59:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@acm.org) Received: from fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEDB8FC15 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAK6pxQ5002568 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:51:59 +1100 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-232-83.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.232.83]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nAK6psse011618 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:51:56 +1100 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAK6psjN050097; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:51:54 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAK6psWV050096; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:51:54 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:51:54 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Maxim Khitrov Message-ID: <20091120065154.GB49534@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <26ddd1750911171732p356f2af5rcb6321397aa9e70d@mail.gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Looking for a tiny embedded system that supports *BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:59:43 -0000 --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-Nov-17 20:32:06 -0500, Maxim Khitrov wrote: >A project I'm working on requires a really small box (at most 15x9x3cm >in size, but ideally smaller) that's capable of running one of the >four BSDs. > >The catch is that it must have its own battery supply capable of >powering the system for at least 5 hours. The other major requirements >are one RS-232 and at least one USB ports. If (as I read it), the battery needs to be inside the 15x9x3cm box, the 5hr battery requirement is going to make this very difficult using x86 hardware. You probably need to look at something ARM based or maybe something like gumstix.com (though I don't know if the latter is supported by any *BSD). > The battery should be >recharged through the USB port. This implies quite a low power consumption since USB 2 is restricted to 500mA per port - or 2.5W to charge the battery and presumably power the device. Is there a specific requirement for BSD? Based on what you've said, it would be far easier to meet the physical dimension and power requirements using something like a PIC or Atmel microcontroller. --=20 Peter Jeremy --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAksGPIoACgkQ/opHv/APuIdlZQCfcIYqa5ZmvNenUujyPyemhaKw hNcAoLSw9J2jrP6+u2zV+XOwyJjhTWbU =Oel5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EuxKj2iCbKjpUGkD-- From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 20 21:46:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CF6106566B for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cowens@greatbaysoftware.com) Received: from portcityhosting.com (bayringfw.portcityweb.com [64.140.243.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87328FC1D for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([173.14.128.81]) by portcityhosting.com with MailEnable ESMTP; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:46:27 -0500 X-WatchGuard-Mail-Exception: Allow Message-ID: <4B070F07.8010600@greatbaysoftware.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:49:59 -0500 From: Charles Owens MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030607050402000001060406" X-WatchGuard-AntiVirus: part scanned. clean action=allow X-ME-Bayesian: 0.000000 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: USB keyboard flaky with PAE kernel, 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:46:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030607050402000001060406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-WatchGuard-AntiVirus: part scanned. clean action=allow Howdy, I'm still digging into it, put preliminary testing is showing that with a PAE-enabled 7.1-RELEASE-p8 kernel a USB keyboard functions only occasionally, if you're lucky. This flakiness is being seen with several different server models that we support (HP and IBM, all Xeon based). If we boot a non-PAE kernel then the USB keyboard is rock solid. For what it's worth (probably little) I can run the same PAE kernel on an old Pentium II system and a USB keyboard works fine. What is the best way to dig into this? Any and all assistance greatly appreciated. I can provide remote access to a testbed of these systems if useful. Charles (And, yes, I do know that amd64 is better than PAE for various obvious reasons. ;-) ) -- **Charles Owens** *Great Bay Software**|** ***www.GreatBaySoftware.com**** --------------030607050402000001060406--