From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 17 07:19:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C80106564A; Sun, 17 May 2009 07:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 309298FC08; Sun, 17 May 2009 07:19:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp-93-104-126-3.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.126.3]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4778183FB7F4; Sun, 17 May 2009 09:19:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4H9JlCp003017; Sun, 17 May 2009 09:19:47 GMT (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 09:19:47 +0000 From: Matthias Apitz To: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <20090517091947.GA2887@current.Sisis.de> References: <1242469381.00112742.1242456003@10.7.7.3> <4A0F31F0.8090601@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A0F31F0.8090601@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT && HDA Driver Revision: 20090401_0132 && no recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 07:19:45 -0000 El da Sunday, May 17, 2009 a las 12:36:48AM +0300, Alexander Motin escribi: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > >I can't get to work recording in environment -CURRENT && HDA Driver > >Revision: 20090401_0132 > > > >the sound output is fine in KDE, but as well the KDE mixer does > >not control it; only with mixer(1) command I can change the volume for > >example; I've already tried all values for setting > > > >$ mixer =rec rdev > > > >but nothing helps switching on the micro. The man page of snd_hda(4) > >explains a lot of device.hints(5) options, but understanding all this is > >out of my control; I'm attaching a 'dmesg | fgrep hdac'. > > > >Any idea how to get recording switched on? I need this for business for > >Skype... This is the last blocking point to switch over to my new Dell > >M4400 btw: I have now already moved all my userland to the M4400; > > You have 3 recording sources available via 2 pcm devices. As I can see, > your built-in mic assigned to pcm1 device. Have you tried to record from > pcm1? It was even more simple. I was only thinking that recording was not working because I could not hear my own voice while speaking in the headset (what I can hear for example in the EeePC 900 using snd_hda too); that's why I did not tried the Echo Service of Skype; later on I did tried it and it records fine from 'mic': # mixer Mixer vol is currently set to 83:83 Mixer pcm is currently set to 100:100 Mixer speaker is currently set to 100:100 Mixer mix is currently set to 100:100 Mixer rec is currently set to 100:100 Recording source: mic > > PS: `dmesg | fgrep pcm` is also interesting. # dmesg | fgrep pcm pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 The last (non blocking) problem is to get support for the Wifi card: EMEA Intel Pro Wireless WI-FI 5100 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n) or replace it by some other card (the card is a plug-in card and can be changed by the user in the laptop). Thanks for your reply in any case. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 17 14:50:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B697106566B for ; Sun, 17 May 2009 14:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sarawgi.aditya@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBF18FC1A for ; Sun, 17 May 2009 14:50:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sarawgi.aditya@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id l9so848471rvb.3 for ; Sun, 17 May 2009 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=ifMA3nOvJxiBMb9YUm5c+w7mHN+Fe9iZROQT5533eQw=; b=UOBHESqamyOZsCcyboTWS4b5HUfEwGdbDQGmYLH7Sr2x+F+VzfDyJSh28siY3LDZ1J zvcZv5UBLPPiW9X7xYWkQNYMgp2kOUeQTS6835zOt+/gRanQFU/maIPTbn1sG9Oosi0E sw4c/8mi3o7NvWu7ITj5rx63tmZm3LdTKKGXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=NJjHtXI61oIcpGklCBt2XFzecx28KZDYwtlkJ5wpnR9BU0P4paBjUeW3ELyiPsMGXD uQHPWR/6plFfJITzf0RrHeTtNBTAaF2/fONwJxBzW3KQdan4IcxaV8EWS9EYFPKD5IrB TykmGCMYUq4fIF1uqI6O3Wfz8P9eBIrKx4XL4= Received: by 10.141.142.15 with SMTP id u15mr2039127rvn.16.1242571854105; Sun, 17 May 2009 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([123.50.179.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g22sm10249682rvb.26.2009.05.17.07.50.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 17 May 2009 07:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:50:46 +0530 From: Aditya Sarawgi To: Saifi Khan Message-ID: <4a10244d.16538c0a.06a6.5982@mx.google.com> References: <20090427004318.GB2185@aditya> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Dell Studio 15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:50:54 -0000 On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 08:22:19PM +0000, Saifi Khan wrote: > On Mon, 27 Apr 2009, Aditya Sarawgi wrote: > > > I'm getting Dell Studio 15 and Dell Vostro 1510 (same config) in around the same price. The main > > difference being Studio 15 has a ATI radeon HD 4570 and Vostro 1510 has nvidia 8400 GS. So for which one > > should I go for ? > > How about purchasing the components and assembling > a good system yourself ? > > Let me know if you need help with that. > > > thanks > Saifi. I bought a Dell Vostro 1510 and I'm pretty happy with it, most of the things work out of the box on freebsd. So maybe next time. Cheers, Aditya Sarawgi From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 17 14:58:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C53191065675; Sun, 17 May 2009 14:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E68FC16; Sun, 17 May 2009 14:58:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) X-Spam-Flag: SKIP X-Spam-Yversion: Spamooborona-2.1.0 Received: from [212.86.226.226] (account mav@alkar.net HELO mavbook.mavhome.dp.ua) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTPSA id 243010659; Sun, 17 May 2009 17:58:43 +0300 Message-ID: <4A10261B.5040601@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 17:58:35 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090405) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <1242469381.00112742.1242456003@10.7.7.3> <4A0F31F0.8090601@FreeBSD.org> <20090517091947.GA2887@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090517091947.GA2887@current.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT && HDA Driver Revision: 20090401_0132 && no recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:58:45 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > El da Sunday, May 17, 2009 a las 12:36:48AM +0300, Alexander Motin escribi: >> You have 3 recording sources available via 2 pcm devices. As I can see, >> your built-in mic assigned to pcm1 device. Have you tried to record from >> pcm1? > > It was even more simple. I was only thinking that recording was not > working because I could not hear my own voice while speaking in the > headset (what I can hear for example in the EeePC 900 using snd_hda > too); that's why I did not tried the Echo Service of Skype; later on I > did tried it and it records fine from 'mic': Some codecs (like mine ALC268) just unable to do echo in hardware. For some others, with recording from playback mixer, snd_hda just unable to configure such echo. Last could probably be fixed by adding some more logic to the parser, but I just don't see good reason for this, except probably just singing karaoke, which I don't like. :) -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 18 01:56:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867AE106566C for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 01:56:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@orni.to) Received: from mta-gw9.infomaniak.ch (mta-gw9.infomaniak.ch [84.16.68.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162E58FC12 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 01:56:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from webmaster@orni.to) Received: from gmu2.infomaniak.ch (gmu2.infomaniak.ch [84.16.83.5]) by mta-gw9.infomaniak.ch (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n4I1hfKN004744 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:43:41 +0200 Received: from gmu2.infomaniak.ch (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gmu2.infomaniak.ch (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n4I1hfGo001875 for ; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:43:41 +0200 Received: (from httpd@localhost) by gmu2.infomaniak.ch (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n4I1heB7001874; Mon, 18 May 2009 03:43:40 +0200 To: mobile@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 03:43:40 +0200 From: jonnie2 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: PHPMailer [version 1.72] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (mta-gw9.infomaniak.ch [84.16.68.125]); Mon, 18 May 2009 03:43:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Antivirus: Dr.Web (R) for Mail Servers on mta-spa3 host X-Antivirus-Code: 100000 X-Infomaniak-Spam: ham X-Spam-Score: 0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset = "utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: An e-card from jonnie2 for you X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 01:56:58 -0000 An e-card from jonnie2 for you ========================================= To view the ecard, copy and paste this url into your browser's address bar:: http://www.orni.to/cartes/displayecard.php?data=YTo5OntzOjI6InJuIjtzOjc6Impvbm5pZTIiO3M6Mjoic24iO3M6Nzoiam9ubmllMiI7czoyOiJzZSI7czoxODoibW9iaWxlQGZyZWVic2Qub3JnIjtzOjE6InAiO3M6NTY6Imh0dHA6Ly93d3cub3JuaS50by9jYXJ0ZXMvYWxidW1zL3VzZXJwaWNzLzEwMDAxLzIwMDYuanBnIjtzOjE6ImciO3M6OToiVnRwSmxZRGdNIjtzOjE6Im0iO3M6MTA6ImNvbW1lbnQzLCAiO3M6MzoicGlkIjtpOjE3MTtzOjI6InB0IjtzOjE5OiJIaXJvbmRlbGxlIHJ1c3RpcXVlIjtzOjI6InBjIjtzOjc0OiJIaXJvbmRlbGxlIHJ1c3RpcXVlICg8aT5IaXJ1bmRvIHJ1c3RpY2E8L2k%2BKTxiciAvPg0KKHBob3RvOiBNYXJjIERlbHNhbGxlKSI7fQ%3D%3D VtpJlYDgM comment3, jonnie2 (mobile@freebsd.org) ----------------------------------------- View more pictures !: http://www.orni.to/cartes/ From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 19 02:27:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00980106564A for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6008FC1D for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 02:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-216-167.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.216.167]) by mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4J2RAXe015699 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 19 May 2009 12:27:12 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4J2RAs8097144; Tue, 19 May 2009 12:27:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4J2R9rQ097143; Tue, 19 May 2009 12:27:09 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:27:09 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Dan Langille Message-ID: <20090519022709.GA97109@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <4A0DE5C1.3070808@langille.org> <44a99a465da3d2724e186d159984e679.squirrel@10.1.1.10> <3a142e750905160502v53c3891bq2fd852c1aafd2f1e@mail.gmail.com> <4A0EDB58.8050809@langille.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A0EDB58.8050809@langille.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: "Paul B. 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I do this with 'hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D"1"' in my loader.conf and then use moused and xf86-input-mouse - I have full tap and scroll support (though the button handling is somewhat dodgy). 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Log onto: [1]w= ww.usaloanmod.com = References 1. =3D"http://www.usaloanmod.com/" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 23 14:11:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4649F1065672; Sat, 23 May 2009 14:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DD18FC0A; Sat, 23 May 2009 14:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB60D14D5A55; Sat, 23 May 2009 15:52:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Rd3hJwBTnrlQ; Sat, 23 May 2009 15:52:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-231-64.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67DDB14D5A2C; Sat, 23 May 2009 15:52:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 15:52:47 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 14:11:58 -0000 Hello, I'm about to buy a netbook, which: - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) - has a normal HDD not an SSD I was told that the new 6 cell Acer Aspire ONEs aren't bad. Could you share your experiences about the following models, please? Or of course, if you have other suggestions, I'm open to them. Acer Aspire one D250-1B Acer Aspire one D150-1B MSI WIND U100-029HU (this one is very tempting because of the 2GB RAM and the 2-year warranty) Thanks in advance, -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 23 16:09:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4062810656AA; Sat, 23 May 2009 16:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C7C8FC1C; Sat, 23 May 2009 16:09:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4NG9eve025110; Sat, 23 May 2009 18:09:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4NG9eH8025107; Sat, 23 May 2009 18:09:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 18:09:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Gabor Kovesdan In-Reply-To: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 16:09:50 -0000 > > I'm about to buy a netbook, which: > - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) > - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) > - has a normal HDD not an SSD point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 23 17:10:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053141065672; Sat, 23 May 2009 17:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx2.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775BC8FC0C; Sat, 23 May 2009 17:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl) Received: from satellite.xs4all.nl (vpn105147.vpn.utwente.nl [130.89.105.147]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n4NGWMLP021111; Sat, 23 May 2009 18:32:23 +0200 Received: from satellite.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by satellite.xs4all.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4NGWL8h005413; Sat, 23 May 2009 18:32:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fonz@satellite.xs4all.nl) Received: (from fonz@localhost) by satellite.xs4all.nl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4NGWLOC005409; Sat, 23 May 2009 18:32:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fonz) From: "A.J. \"Fonz\" van Werven" Message-Id: <200905231632.n4NGWLOC005409@satellite.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> To: Gabor Kovesdan Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 18:32:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL124c (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: a.j.werven@student.utwente.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:10:54 -0000 Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > I'm about to buy a netbook, which: > - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) It would be nice if the builtin card works with FreeBSD but if not, there are USB WiFi adapters that do. > - has a normal HDD not an SSD Speaking of disks, what is the typical HDD size range of netbooks nowadays? Alphons -- All right, that does it Bill [Donahue]. I'm pretty sure that killing Jesus is not very Christian. -- Pope Benedict XVI, Southpark season 11 episode 5 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 23 17:43:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349DD106564A; Sat, 23 May 2009 17:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B9A8FC15; Sat, 23 May 2009 17:43:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from millenia2000@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY126-DS3 ([65.55.131.30]) by bay0-omc2-s19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 23 May 2009 10:31:48 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [69.243.68.197] X-Originating-Email: [millenia2000@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: "Sean Cavanaugh" To: "Wojciech Puchar" , "Gabor Kovesdan" References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:31:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2009 17:31:48.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[59A114F0:01C9DBCC] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:43:49 -0000 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Wojciech Puchar" Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:09 PM To: "Gabor Kovesdan" Cc: ; Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD >> >> I'm about to buy a netbook, which: >> - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) >> - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) >> - has a normal HDD not an SSD > > point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in > order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really > "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. > I respectfully disagree. As much as I hate Apple as a company, I currently have a MacBook Pro that gets over 4 hours of battery life and has a 200+gig HDD in it. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 23 20:40:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD9D106564A; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:40:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76238FC13; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:40:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4NKeaQe027189; Sat, 23 May 2009 22:40:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4NKeZ1c027186; Sat, 23 May 2009 22:40:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 22:40:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Sean Cavanaugh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:40:44 -0000 >> >> point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in >> order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really >> "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. >> > > I respectfully disagree. As much as I hate Apple as a company, I currently > have a MacBook Pro that gets over 4 hours of battery life and has a 200+gig > HDD in it. > i wrote "somehow incompatible" :) your macbook pro would run even more hours on the same battery with flash drive. i don't know how much your CPU gets power, and ... how oversized battery it has From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 23 20:58:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0E27106564A for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533688FC12 for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 20:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gaijin.k@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so1452304ywe.13 for ; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:57:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SN1iPFmxFhv/HMUzzImUuUrLVHULBeBDUqnDnXdpA3Y=; b=pMvLVr4j+v76aZ6mDXeJorHDf7kQc0vrJal5bQ3+MUUsaEp1Dobx8584pwrnfU3NDW sTdrwOU2Cq+GKfARlt4C3pR3nW8ZE7SYW6ozTivy/t7pBcZfZMIWkJmOo7MhWz+LRE/H 0arYGf7/wwvpCkQ1BN5ClyjjWy3RBA1aJsaA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=ntKCd29dLDi3BLqQC2qx72tftKWrdB3EO3zEMLv4YI+FgvgANN6pdr9D/CbEIgI5x7 Wns4AimJzIKVaSwATRH8tKX9rTcVTC/Dfca9XW1OScpffFmLkItfxHJB7kniVdlePQPo 0TLKuyWfsPRsYvU7EoWB+3jmLWIXsGSJsdjZI= Received: by 10.100.241.17 with SMTP id o17mr9491100anh.134.1243112279566; Sat, 23 May 2009 13:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.3.231? (pool-70-111-1-160.nwrk.east.verizon.net [70.111.1.160]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b14sm7068104ana.16.2009.05.23.13.57.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 23 May 2009 13:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" To: Sean Cavanaugh In-Reply-To: References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 16:57:34 -0400 Message-Id: <1243112254.1200.11.camel@RabbitsDen> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 20:58:00 -0000 On Sat, 2009-05-23 at 13:31 -0400, Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Wojciech Puchar" > Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 12:09 PM > To: "Gabor Kovesdan" > Cc: ; > Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD > > >> > >> I'm about to buy a netbook, which: > >> - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) > >> - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) > >> - has a normal HDD not an SSD > > > > point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in > > order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really > > "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. > > > > I respectfully disagree. As much as I hate Apple as a company, I currently > have a MacBook Pro that gets over 4 hours of battery life and has a 200+gig > HDD in it. > I did not run FreeBSD on it, so I apologize for slight OT, but my wife's Samsung NC10 (2.8 lbs, 10.2" screen, 160GB 5400RPM HDD) is pushing 6 hours of the battery life with the wireless on and memory upgraded to 2GB. This is under Windows XP HOME ULCPC though. Wireless card (as reported by Windows) is Atheros AR5007EG, so you might need to ask around whether it is supported by ath driver. HTH, -- Alexandre Kovalenko (Олександр Коваленко)