From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 13:33:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D4F61065673; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30738FC1F; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:33:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A9414D5AE4; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:33:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id cYndrarhB-Yf; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:33:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-231-64.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3D9F314D5AA7; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:33:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A194CB7.4080605@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:33:43 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:33:53 -0000 Wojciech Puchar escribió: >> >> I'm about to buy a netbook, which: >> - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) >> - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) >> - has a normal HDD not an SSD > > point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway > in order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those > really "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. > Yes, but buying anything is always about compromises. Recent HDD models are pretty good and I don't need the most hi-end model with an extreme battery life, just a reasonable uptime with HDD. I think I'll go for the Acer Aspire ONE. I haven't got comments from these lists about that model in particular but I googled a bit and it seems mostly everything works with it. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 13:37:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F341065670 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BFBC8FC13 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:37:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9704A14D5AE5; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Ls0BjfuRsM8x; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-231-64.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C2E8714D5AA7; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A194D9F.1020309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:37:35 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "A.J. \"Fonz\" van Werven" References: <200905231632.n4NGWLOC005409@satellite.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <200905231632.n4NGWLOC005409@satellite.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:37:43 -0000 A.J. "Fonz" van Werven escribió: > Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > > >> I'm about to buy a netbook, which: >> - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) >> > > It would be nice if the builtin card works with FreeBSD but if not, there > are USB WiFi adapters that do. > That's what I want to avoid. :) Nowadays, you can buy almost anything as an external USB accessories but what's the point in integrated goodies then? :) > >> - has a normal HDD not an SSD >> > > Speaking of disks, what is the typical HDD size range of netbooks > nowadays? > I've seen model with ~120-160 GB. That's enough for me. I'll buy a netbook mainly because of the good mobility. Browsing, reading mail, coding, ... I think it'll be fine for these requirements. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 13:44:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D81106564A; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4132B8FC12; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:44:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1954E14D5AE6; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:44:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vjg3KF1GzN1R; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:43:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-231-64.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BBA014D5AA7; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:43:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A194F19.9070106@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:43:53 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <1243112254.1200.11.camel@RabbitsDen> In-Reply-To: <1243112254.1200.11.camel@RabbitsDen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Sean Cavanaugh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:44:02 -0000 Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko escribió: > I did not run FreeBSD on it, so I apologize for slight OT, but my wife's > Samsung NC10 (2.8 lbs, 10.2" screen, 160GB 5400RPM HDD) is pushing 6 > hours of the battery life with the wireless on and memory upgraded to > 2GB. This is under Windows XP HOME ULCPC though. > > Wireless card (as reported by Windows) is Atheros AR5007EG, so you might > need to ask around whether it is supported by ath driver. > Thanks, that Samsung model seems pretty nice, as well, but it's significantly more expensive in Hungary than the Aspire ONE, while the specs are mainly the same. So I think I'll go for the Acer netbook if someone doesn't convince me quickly not to do so... -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 13:52:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F739106564A; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:52:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21338FC14; Sun, 24 May 2009 13:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp-93-104-111-67.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.111.67]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA01F185184ED; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:52:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4ODqUDk003429; Sun, 24 May 2009 15:52:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:52:29 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Gabor Kovesdan Message-ID: <20090524135229.GA3410@current.Sisis.de> References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <1243112254.1200.11.camel@RabbitsDen> <4A194F19.9070106@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A194F19.9070106@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: Wojciech Puchar , Sean Cavanaugh , Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:52:33 -0000 El día Sunday, May 24, 2009 a las 03:43:53PM +0200, Gabor Kovesdan escribió: > Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko escribió: > >I did not run FreeBSD on it, so I apologize for slight OT, but my wife's > >Samsung NC10 (2.8 lbs, 10.2" screen, 160GB 5400RPM HDD) is pushing 6 > >hours of the battery life with the wireless on and memory upgraded to > >2GB. This is under Windows XP HOME ULCPC though. > > > >Wireless card (as reported by Windows) is Atheros AR5007EG, so you might > >need to ask around whether it is supported by ath driver. > > > Thanks, that Samsung model seems pretty nice, as well, but it's > significantly more expensive in Hungary than the Aspire ONE, while the > specs are mainly the same. So I think I'll go for the Acer netbook if > someone doesn't convince me quickly not to do so... I have a real netbook, an EeePC 900 with 20 GByte SSD, Wifi, 1024x600 9" display and an attached USB Huawei E220 dongel for UMTS. I have installed 8-CURRENT and all works as it should, only the inbuild cam is not supported, but I don't neet this at the moment (maybe later when Skype for FreeBSD can do video as well). matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 17:27:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA90106566C; Sun, 24 May 2009 17:27:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (mail1.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.39.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2ED8FC2A; Sun, 24 May 2009 17:27:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meta@club.kyutech.ac.jp) Received: from smtp.vmeta.jp (attsi1-src.asahi-net.or.jp [220.157.253.2]) by mail1.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E4A76067; Mon, 25 May 2009 02:06:19 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.0.128] (unknown [192.168.0.128]) by smtp.vmeta.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2DFAEC65; Mon, 25 May 2009 02:06:17 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4A197E77.2060500@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 02:05:59 +0900 From: Koichiro IWAO User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor Kovesdan References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:27:33 -0000 Hi. Gabor Kovesdan ????????: > Hello, > > I'm about to buy a netbook, which: > - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) > - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) > - has a normal HDD not an SSD I don't know about that you are going to buy, but I have Dell Inspiron mini 12. One of the big problem with FreeBSD is the video Driver. Most of netbooks have Intel Atom Z series CPU. Atom Z series have integrated chipset and video chip. The integrated video chip Intel GMA 500 is not a original Intel product. So X11 does not work with Intel driver and the driver is still unavailable. VESA is the only available driver. If you want use X11, do not forget to choose Atom N series. -- Iwao, Koichiro From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 24 18:09:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2412106566C; Sun, 24 May 2009 18:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from server.mypc.hu (server.mypc.hu [87.229.73.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536158FC16; Sun, 24 May 2009 18:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gabor@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CFC14D5AFD; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:09:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at t-hosting.hu Received: from server.mypc.hu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (server.mypc.hu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 1EGFM-8sCB+p; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (catv-80-98-231-64.catv.broadband.hu [80.98.231.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by server.mypc.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B5C2F14D5AA7; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:09:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A198D5F.1090405@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:09:35 +0200 From: Gabor Kovesdan User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Koichiro IWAO References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <4A197E77.2060500@club.kyutech.ac.jp> In-Reply-To: <4A197E77.2060500@club.kyutech.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:09:47 -0000 Koichiro IWAO escribió: > The integrated video chip Intel GMA 500 is not a original Intel product. > So X11 does not work with Intel driver and the driver is still > unavailable. VESA is the only available driver. > > If you want use X11, do not forget to choose Atom N series. Uh, thanks a lot, I almost chose the 751h model, but now I decided to take the 531. It comes with Intel 945GM. -- Gabor Kovesdan FreeBSD Volunteer EMAIL: gabor@FreeBSD.org .:|:. gabor@kovesdan.org WEB: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gabor .:|:. http://kovesdan.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 14:30:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21C2106564A; Mon, 25 May 2009 14:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864D38FC15; Mon, 25 May 2009 14:30:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (adsl-156-5-72.bna.bellsouth.net [70.156.5.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4PETu6F023100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 May 2009 10:29:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: Gabor Kovesdan In-Reply-To: <4A198D5F.1090405@FreeBSD.org> References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <4A197E77.2060500@club.kyutech.ac.jp> <4A198D5F.1090405@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Iyp7DERrnM544YYCaZWP" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:29:00 -0500 Message-Id: <1243261740.1787.1033.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Koichiro IWAO Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:30:07 -0000 --=-Iyp7DERrnM544YYCaZWP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 20:09 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > Koichiro IWAO escribi=F3: > > The integrated video chip Intel GMA 500 is not a original Intel product= . > > So X11 does not work with Intel driver and the driver is still=20 > > unavailable. VESA is the only available driver. Does anyone have the pci ids for this? I have some patches around here for an "IGD" device that I think is a G41 but afaik was un-released at the time that I created that patch. robert. > > If you want use X11, do not forget to choose Atom N series. > Uh, thanks a lot, I almost chose the 751h model, but now I decided to=20 > take the 531. It comes with Intel 945GM. --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-Iyp7DERrnM544YYCaZWP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkoaqywACgkQM4TrQ4qfRONL/gCbBgzbB4QQYC6oj+eEnGhY9qCV HioAoIEaOdeQNJIDayrVWLwQB3nm04hp =ft+d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Iyp7DERrnM544YYCaZWP-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 25 22:58:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92B41065670; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AC18FC12; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) Received: from localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com ([98.150.187.245]) by hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20090525222109572.HBFQ9828@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com>; Mon, 25 May 2009 22:21:09 +0000 Received: from holstein.holy.cow (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.hawaii.res.rr.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDFA32F1; Mon, 25 May 2009 12:22:14 -1000 (HST) Received: (from parv@localhost) by holstein.holy.cow (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n4PMMCNh003603; Mon, 25 May 2009 12:22:12 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from parv@pair.com) X-Authentication-Warning: holstein.holy.cow: parv set sender to parv@pair.com using -f Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:22:12 -1000 From: parv@pair.com To: Matthias Apitz Message-ID: <20090525222212.GA1445@holstein.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Gabor Kovesdan , Wojciech Puchar , Sean Cavanaugh , Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <1243112254.1200.11.camel@RabbitsDen> <4A194F19.9070106@FreeBSD.org> <20090524135229.GA3410@current.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090524135229.GA3410@current.Sisis.de> Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Sean Cavanaugh , Gabor Kovesdan , Wojciech Puchar , Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:58:41 -0000 in message <20090524135229.GA3410@current.Sisis.de>, wrote Matthias Apitz thusly... > > > Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko escribió: > > >I did not run FreeBSD on it, so I apologize for slight OT, but > > >my wife's Samsung NC10 (2.8 lbs, 10.2" screen, 160GB 5400RPM > > >HDD) is pushing 6 hours of the battery life with the wireless > > >on and memory upgraded to 2GB. This is under Windows XP HOME > > >ULCPC though. ... > I have a real netbook, an EeePC 900 with 20 GByte SSD, Wifi, > 1024x600 9" display and an attached USB Huawei E220 dongel for > UMTS. I have installed 8-CURRENT and all works as it should, only > the inbuild cam is not supported, but I don't neet this at the > moment (maybe later when Skype for FreeBSD can do video as well). Matthias, What kind of battery life do you get (with and without WIFI use)? - Parv -- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 01:09:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E4610656B2; Tue, 26 May 2009 01:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F42358FC1C; Tue, 26 May 2009 01:09:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4Q19jtK042608; Tue, 26 May 2009 03:09:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n4Q19imp042605; Tue, 26 May 2009 03:09:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 03:09:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: parv@pair.com In-Reply-To: <20090525222212.GA1445@holstein.holy.cow> Message-ID: References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <1243112254.1200.11.camel@RabbitsDen> <4A194F19.9070106@FreeBSD.org> <20090524135229.GA3410@current.Sisis.de> <20090525222212.GA1445@holstein.holy.cow> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Matthias Apitz , freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Sean Cavanaugh , Gabor Kovesdan , Alexandre Sunny Kovalenko , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:09:52 -0000 >> 1024x600 9" display and an attached USB Huawei E220 dongel for >> UMTS. I have installed 8-CURRENT and all works as it should, only >> the inbuild cam is not supported, but I don't neet this at the >> moment (maybe later when Skype for FreeBSD can do video as well). > > Matthias, > > What kind of battery life do you get (with and without WIFI use)? > and with/without Huawei E220. it's realy heavy battery drainer, takes much more than WiFi - i have this UMTS interface. 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18:07:34 +0400 (MSD) Received: from vova by vbook.fbsd.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1M8xJU-000IvQ-Hy; Tue, 26 May 2009 18:07:32 +0400 From: Vladimir Grebenschikov To: acpi@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: SWsoft Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 18:07:32 +0400 Message-Id: <1243346852.2384.62.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.0 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Sender: Vladimir Grebenschikov Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vova@fbsd.ru List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:27:45 -0000 Hi Does anybody managed to make FreeBSD successfully suspend and resume on Lenovo T60 ? FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May 22 15:30:36 MSD 2009 root@vbook:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VBOOK Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (1995.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) avail memory = 2097184768 (2000 MB) ACPI APIC Table: ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or length: 0 102C/0 [20070320] ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard netsmb_dev: loaded kbd1 at kbdmux0 acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed I've tried but it does not resumes after sleep, so looking for hints. -- Vladimir B. Grebenschikov vova@fbsd.ru From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 21:00:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9E3106567C; Tue, 26 May 2009 21:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from mail-px0-f106.google.com (mail-px0-f106.google.com [209.85.216.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644AF8FC20; Tue, 26 May 2009 21:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: by pxi4 with SMTP id 4so3542534pxi.3 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:00:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:cc:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=0OPiVOZ4T3OtlqhPRUkiiplkKmqUPqbDU5xNlvUyn14=; b=ITh+XJMQBn8Fvp3v5mDB+CPuO3fJs9Xf18PjYJVLOvb/bglr4UHUfMjs+auT46Z6Ty FeP2RpnQloJYg8P9RunGnVKp7VoWPEdtFh8o/EU/WAeQ754Gehi6tNCenaVmiLzZPPqK Z85LPJkMxv6VqnzA0W6lZ1bsV4hZMgO8U5erM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:organization :message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=UxP7GReuWbsR6fqY8NGcKThw+/VPp8IJQdMSSEG/3MNR/H3l6Em+M0XvIsMCJJwsjf 1GxLUtmfvTustDr0yJveYOjMewPakPEvM1irfJFWQVxoNscKwtbXKyixoW/+l+VKcxgt 0M20BE2ore5hYf5hkUSEw3TktOwuJGOT9vxa0= Received: by 10.114.72.17 with SMTP id u17mr7144653waa.41.1243370125497; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Emma (pool-71-112-39-31.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.39.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l37sm17524456waf.5.2009.05.26.13.35.22 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 26 May 2009 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Charles Oppermann" To: , References: <1243346852.2384.62.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1243346852.2384.62.camel@localhost> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 13:35:21 -0700 Organization: Copper Software Message-ID: <004601c9de41$81107630$83316290$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcneDisNavsD4itPQ6elZABUuvqPuQAMC8kg Content-Language: en-us Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:00:21 -0000 > Does anybody managed to make FreeBSD successfully suspend and resume on > Lenovo T60 ? Funny, because I was about to ask the same question regarding the T61p. I have heard that SMP prevents suspending entirely, but turning off the second CPU via BIOS doesn't help. I have been using acpiconf -s3 to test. Each time I get a console message saying that suspend event failed. Never does it suspend, nor does it seem to bother the current state. I can continue working normally. > ACPI APIC Table: > ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or > length: 0 102C/0 [20070320] > ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 > ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard > netsmb_dev: loaded > kbd1 at kbdmux0 > acpi0: on motherboard > acpi0: [ITHREAD] > acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 > acpi0: Power Button (fixed) > acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed > acpi0: reservation of 100000, 7ff00000 (3) failed I get the same ACPI warnings and "failed" as you. My acpi0 has though. I'd be happy to provide more information or do some spelunking if need be. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 26 21:13:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CCF0106566C; Tue, 26 May 2009 21:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.76]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28958FC19; Tue, 26 May 2009 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-216-167.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.216.167]) by mail36.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4QLD1dX028428 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 27 May 2009 07:13:02 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4QLD0Ij016440; Wed, 27 May 2009 07:13:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4QLD0IX016439; Wed, 27 May 2009 07:13:00 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 07:13:00 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Gabor Kovesdan Message-ID: <20090526211300.GA13700@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <4A194CB7.4080605@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AqsLC8rIMeq19msA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4A194CB7.4080605@FreeBSD.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:13:06 -0000 --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-May-24 15:33:43 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: >Acer Aspire ONE. I haven't got comments from these lists about that=20 >model in particular but I googled a bit and it seems mostly everything=20 >works with it. I have the SSD version and everything except the webcam and suspend/ resume works out of the box. With WiFi and camera turned off, I can get over 3 hrs on the std battery doing things like locally reading mail. I have a USB 3G dongle and it's quite power-hungry (1/4 to 1/3 of total power consumption). --=20 Peter Jeremy --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkocW1wACgkQ/opHv/APuIfnxgCeN9CahtPmq07J5PVONImQBm55 MAQAn2LoL++owKkCsvTUFWRJ5ZEXlbhT =0YxT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 08:02:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8192210656A3; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@honeyguide.net) Received: from jail0064.vps.exonetric.net (jail0064.vps.exonetric.net [82.138.248.239]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 458BD8FC1B; Wed, 27 May 2009 08:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlists@honeyguide.net) Received: from tmo-044-142.customers.d1-online.com (tmo-044-142.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.44.142]) by jail0064.vps.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95F3C94B1; Wed, 27 May 2009 07:47:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <1C1EA0CA-FC01-4B68-A94F-198376772C80@honeyguide.net> From: Stephan Lichtenauer To: Peter Jeremy In-Reply-To: <20090526211300.GA13700@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 09:47:24 +0200 References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <4A194CB7.4080605@FreeBSD.org> <20090526211300.GA13700@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 08:02:48 -0000 Peter, Am 26.05.2009 um 23:13 schrieb Peter Jeremy: > On 2009-May-24 15:33:43 +0200, Gabor Kovesdan > wrote: >> Acer Aspire ONE. I haven't got comments from these lists about that >> model in particular but I googled a bit and it seems mostly >> everything >> works with it. > > I have the SSD version and everything except the webcam and suspend/ > resume works out of the box. What FreeBSD version are you using? Best regards Stephan From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 13:58:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08781106566B; Wed, 27 May 2009 13:58:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D828FC20; Wed, 27 May 2009 13:58:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so4722303bwz.43 for ; Wed, 27 May 2009 06:58:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PCnvx3wf72U81e01kcyHAdcstYMxW8plqt2tYUhfHHo=; b=BoIKqzu9H+Zk7MeNvWdYD/+UWe6oCsbqESWfWFCIdaJ2bRVLZvx2GgNKuLzUQFteZC BgKsnZtH7O4BgJE0EZe8ZcXgJoooiuWwcFMlW0JmH0eWUc4kDXp5jmzw1mSj71VIlHLV 5EKdTPMC5RoqrdSuipjRY+JLGkmnO9tFGPAhg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QHuq6UrWZrZ/pcMXBX0OzSYOox2H6TZdedW50FA917NpgpP18n91Qw06z9AdIhNMXw lM2JmouyMx9rKT5Fut0nGYx/XbVKKR653ZWtJAhFiKWmKoZMiXWu6P3B4zNlc87CZkGS IPu6qUFt0Jp/EtVjPIoNo8jkdCNqvRfVyPxHg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.117.142 with SMTP id r14mr9347633bkq.197.1243431322185; Wed, 27 May 2009 06:35:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 14:35:02 +0100 Message-ID: To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:58:22 -0000 2009/5/23 Wojciech Puchar : >> >> I'm about to buy a netbook, which: >> - is compatible with FreeBSD (wifi is especially important) >> - has a good battery life (at least 4 hours) >> - has a normal HDD not an SSD > > point 2 and 3 is somehow incompatible - HDD takes more power. anyway in > order of few watts, compared to CPUs taking 20-50W, excluding those really > "mobile". so >4 hours on battery&HDD seems possible. > http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=SSD+versus+hard+drive+power&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 Will you PLEASE start checking what you say before posting! Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 27 18:50:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8231065670; Wed, 27 May 2009 18:50:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD2438FC17; Wed, 27 May 2009 18:50:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-216-167.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.216.167]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n4RIolN4024094 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 28 May 2009 04:50:48 +1000 X-Bogosity: Ham, spamicity=0.000000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4RIokIS038006; Thu, 28 May 2009 04:50:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4RIokTC038005; Thu, 28 May 2009 04:50:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 04:50:46 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Stephan Lichtenauer Message-ID: <20090527185046.GA1331@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <4A17FFAF.4010400@FreeBSD.org> <4A194CB7.4080605@FreeBSD.org> <20090526211300.GA13700@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <1C1EA0CA-FC01-4B68-A94F-198376772C80@honeyguide.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1C1EA0CA-FC01-4B68-A94F-198376772C80@honeyguide.net> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, Gabor Kovesdan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: netbooks vs FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:50:52 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2009-May-27 09:47:24 +0200, Stephan Lichtenauer wrote: >>> Acer Aspire ONE. I haven't got comments from these lists about that >> I have the SSD version and everything except the webcam and suspend/ >> resume works out of the box. > >What FreeBSD version are you using? FreeBSD 8-current. --=20 Peter Jeremy --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkodi4YACgkQ/opHv/APuIfcHgCfSXAfG+JbbvfoqhMutAzYUHmw IHcAnidivIVi8WNiD6pOLs78f2jUtx++ =xdxs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 09:45:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D886B106566B; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taku@tackymt.homeip.net) Received: from basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:3e0:577:0:20d:61ff:fecc:2253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5884C8FC08; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taku@tackymt.homeip.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5C110748; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:45:53 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tackymt.homeip.net Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basalt.tackymt.homeip.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a0LIazJdXayh; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:45:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from biotite (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:148:301:216:cfff:febc:1472]) by basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:45:40 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:45:37 +0900 From: "YAMAMOTO, Taku" To: vova@fbsd.ru Message-Id: <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <1243346852.2384.62.camel@localhost> References: <1243346852.2384.62.camel@localhost> Organization: Trans New Technology, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_18_45_37_+0900_vTiVoHcAFd4HRcme" Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:45:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_18_45_37_+0900_vTiVoHcAFd4HRcme Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Vladimir, I have an X60 running 8.0-current/i386 as of Apr. 29, 2009 which can successfully suspend and resume, though things may be a bit different from your case. There were a couple of pitfalls which I ran into: 0. Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply unofficial patch floating around. 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify!) Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. 2. Disable the USB while suspending; otherwise NMI parity error occurs on resume. (usb2 stack only; the old USB stack didn't have this problem) In rc.suspend (the magic to turn the root hubs off): usbconfig -a 1 set_config 255 In rc.resume (the magic to turn the root hubs on again): usbconfig -a 1 set_config 0 Cheers, -- -|-__ YAMAMOTO, Taku | __ < - A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs. - --Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_18_45_37_+0900_vTiVoHcAFd4HRcme Content-Type: text/plain; name="dmesg-biotite.log" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg-biotite.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. 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FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #181: Thu May 7 08:46:45 JST 2009 yamamoto@biotite:/home/yamamoto/work/build/biotite/usr/src/sys/BIOTITE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (1995.02-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x6f6 Stepping = 6 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0xe3bd AMD Features=0x20100000 AMD Features2=0x1 TSC: P-state invariant real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) avail memory = 1032323072 (984 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 2 core(s) cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ACPI Warning (tbfadt-0505): Optional field "Gpe1Block" has zero address or length: 0 102C/0 [20070320] ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 1 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard no match for ZwOpenKey no match for IoOpenDeviceRegistryKey no match for ZwCreateKey no match for ZwDeleteKey acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi_ec0: port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, 3ff00000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_hpet0: iomem 0xfed00000-0xfed003ff on acpi0 Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 1100 acpi_lid0: on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: port 0x1800-0x1807 mem 0xee100000-0xee17ffff,0xd0000000-0xdfffffff,0xee200000-0xee23ffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 7932k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 256M drm0: on vgapci0 vgapci0: child drm0 requested pci_enable_busmaster info: [drm] AGP at 0xd0000000 256MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 vgapci1: mem 0xee180000-0xee1fffff at device 2.1 on pci0 hdac0: mem 0xee240000-0xee243fff irq 17 at device 27.0 on pci0 hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20090401_0132 hdac0: [ITHREAD] pcib1: irq 20 at device 28.0 on pci0 pci2: on pcib1 em0: port 0x2000-0x201f mem 0xee000000-0xee01ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci2 em0: Using MSI interrupt em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:16:d3:2f:f4:65 pcib2: irq 21 at device 28.1 on pci0 pci3: on pcib2 ndis0: <11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Mini-PCI Express Adapter> mem 0xedf00000-0xedf0ffff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3 ndis0: [ITHREAD] ndis0: NDIS API version: 5.1 pcib3: irq 22 at device 28.2 on pci0 pci4: on pcib3 pcib4: irq 23 at device 28.3 on pci0 pci12: on pcib4 uhci0: port 0x1820-0x183f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [ITHREAD] usbus0: on uhci0 uhci1: port 0x1840-0x185f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [ITHREAD] usbus1: on uhci1 uhci2: port 0x1860-0x187f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [ITHREAD] usbus2: on uhci2 uhci3: port 0x1880-0x189f irq 19 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [ITHREAD] usbus3: on uhci3 ehci0: mem 0xee444000-0xee4443ff irq 19 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [ITHREAD] usbus4: EHCI version 1.0 usbus4: on ehci0 pcib5: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci21: on pcib5 cbb0: mem 0xe4300000-0xe4300fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci21 cardbus0: on cbb0 pccard0: <16-bit PCCard bus> on cbb0 cbb0: [FILTER] pci21: at device 0.1 (no driver attached) sdhci0: mem 0xe4301800-0xe43018ff irq 18 at device 0.2 on pci21 sdhci0: 1 slot(s) allocated sdhci0: [ITHREAD] isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x1810-0x181f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0x18d0-0x18d7,0x18c4-0x18c7,0x18c8-0x18cf,0x18c0-0x18c3,0x18b0-0x18bf mem 0xee444400-0xee4447ff irq 16 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: AHCI called from vendor specific driver atapci1: AHCI Version 01.10 controller with 4 ports PM not supported ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ichsmb0: port 0x18e0-0x18ff irq 23 at device 31.3 on pci0 ichsmb0: [ITHREAD] smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 acpi_dock0: on acpi0 acpi_tz0: on acpi0 acpi_tz1: on acpi0 atrtc0: port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 battery0: on acpi0 acpi_acad0: on acpi0 acpi_ibm0: on acpi0 cpu0: on acpi0 coretemp0: on cpu0 est0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 coretemp1: on cpu1 est1: on cpu1 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xcf000-0xcffff,0xd0000-0xd0fff,0xdc000-0xdffff,0xe0000-0xeffff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <12 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0 at vga0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec usbus0: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus1: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus2: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus3: 12Mbps Full Speed USB v1.0 usbus4: 480Mbps High Speed USB v2.0 ad0: 114473MB at ata2-master SATA150 hdac0: HDA Codec #0: Analog Devices AD1981HD hdac0: HDA Codec #1: Conexant (Unknown) pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 ugen0.1: at usbus0 uhub0: on usbus0 ugen1.1: at usbus1 uhub1: on usbus1 ugen2.1: at usbus2 uhub2: on usbus2 ugen3.1: at usbus3 uhub3: on usbus3 ugen4.1: at usbus4 uhub4: on usbus4 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! Root mount waiting for: usbus4 usbus3 usbus2 usbus1 usbus0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Root mount waiting for: usbus4 Root mount waiting for: usbus4 Root mount waiting for: usbus4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a ugen3.2: at usbus3 WARNING: TMPFS is considered to be a highly experimental feature in FreeBSD. --Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_18_45_37_+0900_vTiVoHcAFd4HRcme-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 09:56:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FF8106566C; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:56:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Received: from sana.init-main.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:28::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C838FC13; Thu, 28 May 2009 09:56:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Received: from ns.init-main.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sana.init-main.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4S9q8bS065093; Thu, 28 May 2009 18:52:08 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@ns.init-main.com) Message-Id: <200905280952.n4S9q8bS065093@sana.init-main.com> To: "YAMAMOTO, Taku" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 2009 18:45:37 JST." <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:52:08 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:56:47 -0000 In message <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>, "YAMAMOTO, Taku" wrote: >Hi Vladimir, > >I have an X60 running 8.0-current/i386 as of Apr. 29, 2009 >which can successfully suspend and resume, though things may be a bit >different from your case. > >There were a couple of pitfalls which I ran into: > > 0. Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. > We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply > unofficial patch floating around. > > 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify!) > Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. > > 2. Disable the USB while suspending; otherwise NMI parity error occurs > on resume. (usb2 stack only; the old USB stack didn't have this problem) > In rc.suspend (the magic to turn the root hubs off): > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 255 > In rc.resume (the magic to turn the root hubs on again): > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 0 > Is the SMP/i386 patch applied cleanly? Lazy author does not tried that since then. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 10:13:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC3C106566B; Thu, 28 May 2009 10:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taku@tackymt.homeip.net) Received: from basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:3e0:577:0:20d:61ff:fecc:2253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B4888FC12; Thu, 28 May 2009 10:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taku@tackymt.homeip.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E1C410749; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:13:15 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tackymt.homeip.net Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basalt.tackymt.homeip.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tj-cqKYK--QI; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:13:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from biotite (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:148:301:216:cfff:febc:1472]) by basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:13:12 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:13:11 +0900 From: "YAMAMOTO, Taku" To: Takanori Watanabe Message-Id: <20090528191311.b68ab3b7.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <200905280952.n4S9q8bS065093@sana.init-main.com> References: <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> <200905280952.n4S9q8bS065093@sana.init-main.com> Organization: Trans New Technology, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:13:17 -0000 On Thu, 28 May 2009 18:52:08 +0900 Takanori Watanabe wrote: > In message <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>, "YAMAMOTO, Taku" > wrote: > >Hi Vladimir, > > > >I have an X60 running 8.0-current/i386 as of Apr. 29, 2009 > >which can successfully suspend and resume, though things may be a bit > >different from your case. > > > >There were a couple of pitfalls which I ran into: > > > > 0. Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. > > We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply > > unofficial patch floating around. > > > > 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify!) > > Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. > > > > 2. Disable the USB while suspending; otherwise NMI parity error occurs > > on resume. (usb2 stack only; the old USB stack didn't have this problem) > > In rc.suspend (the magic to turn the root hubs off): > > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 255 > > In rc.resume (the magic to turn the root hubs on again): > > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 0 > > > > Is the SMP/i386 patch applied cleanly? > Lazy author does not tried that since then. No, it requires slight modifications to apply, but that's it. Would it be worth to have it available somewhere? -- -|-__ YAMAMOTO, Taku | __ < - A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs. - From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 10:27:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678D31065674; Thu, 28 May 2009 10:27:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Received: from sana.init-main.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:240:28::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0481E8FC1C; Thu, 28 May 2009 10:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takawata@init-main.com) Received: from ns.init-main.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sana.init-main.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n4SAMdxr065296; Thu, 28 May 2009 19:22:39 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from takawata@ns.init-main.com) Message-Id: <200905281022.n4SAMdxr065296@sana.init-main.com> To: "YAMAMOTO, Taku" In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 28 May 2009 19:13:11 JST." <20090528191311.b68ab3b7.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 19:22:39 +0900 From: Takanori Watanabe Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 10:27:18 -0000 In message <20090528191311.b68ab3b7.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>, "YAMAMOTO, Taku" wrote: >On Thu, 28 May 2009 18:52:08 +0900 >Takanori Watanabe wrote: > >> In message <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>, "YAMAMOTO, Tak >u" >> wrote: >> >Hi Vladimir, >> > >> >I have an X60 running 8.0-current/i386 as of Apr. 29, 2009 >> >which can successfully suspend and resume, though things may be a bit >> >different from your case. >> > >> >There were a couple of pitfalls which I ran into: >> > >> > 0. Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. >> > We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply >> > unofficial patch floating around. >> > >> > 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify! >) >> > Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. >> > >> > 2. Disable the USB while suspending; otherwise NMI parity error occurs >> > on resume. (usb2 stack only; the old USB stack didn't have this problem >) >> > In rc.suspend (the magic to turn the root hubs off): >> > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 255 >> > In rc.resume (the magic to turn the root hubs on again): >> > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 0 >> > >> >> Is the SMP/i386 patch applied cleanly? >> Lazy author does not tried that since then. > >No, it requires slight modifications to apply, but that's it. >Would it be worth to have it available somewhere? Yes, please. I want to review it. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 11:18:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC3610656D0; Thu, 28 May 2009 11:18:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taku@tackymt.homeip.net) Received: from basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:3e0:577:0:20d:61ff:fecc:2253]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F040A8FC0A; Thu, 28 May 2009 11:18:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from taku@tackymt.homeip.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF7C10749; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:18:50 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at tackymt.homeip.net Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basalt.tackymt.homeip.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Edkw1E6BOJiI; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:18:45 +0900 (JST) Received: from biotite (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:148:301:216:cfff:febc:1472]) by basalt.tackymt.homeip.net (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 28 May 2009 20:18:45 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:18:44 +0900 From: "YAMAMOTO, Taku" To: Takanori Watanabe Message-Id: <20090528201844.7df2e164.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <200905281022.n4SAMdxr065296@sana.init-main.com> References: <20090528191311.b68ab3b7.taku@tackymt.homeip.net> <200905281022.n4SAMdxr065296@sana.init-main.com> Organization: Trans New Technology, Inc. X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.16.1; i386-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_20_18_44_+0900_2JXH5XYx0UfrcBzn" Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:18:53 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_20_18_44_+0900_2JXH5XYx0UfrcBzn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll attach the patch in a Triaez fashion :) though I don't think this is the way to go. # We need to implement suspend_cpus() for i386 and utilize it. On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:22:39 +0900 Takanori Watanabe wrote: > In message <20090528191311.b68ab3b7.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>, "YAMAMOTO, Taku" > wrote: > >On Thu, 28 May 2009 18:52:08 +0900 > >Takanori Watanabe wrote: > > > >> In message <20090528184537.b2ac4798.taku@tackymt.homeip.net>, "YAMAMOTO, Tak > >u" > >> wrote: > >> >Hi Vladimir, > >> > > >> >I have an X60 running 8.0-current/i386 as of Apr. 29, 2009 > >> >which can successfully suspend and resume, though things may be a bit > >> >different from your case. > >> > > >> >There were a couple of pitfalls which I ran into: > >> > > >> > 0. Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. > >> > We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply > >> > unofficial patch floating around. > >> > > >> > 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify! > >) > >> > Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. > >> > > >> > 2. Disable the USB while suspending; otherwise NMI parity error occurs > >> > on resume. (usb2 stack only; the old USB stack didn't have this problem > >) > >> > In rc.suspend (the magic to turn the root hubs off): > >> > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 255 > >> > In rc.resume (the magic to turn the root hubs on again): > >> > usbconfig -a 1 set_config 0 > >> > > >> > >> Is the SMP/i386 patch applied cleanly? > >> Lazy author does not tried that since then. > > > >No, it requires slight modifications to apply, but that's it. > >Would it be worth to have it available somewhere? > > Yes, please. I want to review it. -- -|-__ YAMAMOTO, Taku | __ < - A chicken is an egg's way of producing more eggs. - --Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_20_18_44_+0900_2JXH5XYx0UfrcBzn Content-Type: text/x-diff; name="takawata-mpresume-r189903.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="takawata-mpresume-r189903.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: sys/i386/acpica/acpi_wakeup.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/acpica/acpi_wakeup.c,v retrieving revision 1.47 diff -u -r1.47 acpi_wakeup.c --- sys/i386/acpica/acpi_wakeup.c 16 Mar 2008 10:58:03 -0000 1.47 +++ sys/i386/acpica/acpi_wakeup.c 13 May 2008 09:12:18 -0000 @@ -35,6 +35,8 @@ __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/acpica/ #include #include #include +#include /* sys/memrange.h requires MALLOC_DECLARE XXX */ +#include #include #include @@ -49,6 +51,11 @@ __FBSDID("$FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/acpica/ #include #include +#include +#include +#include +#include +#include #include "acpi_wakecode.h" @@ -71,6 +78,11 @@ static uint32_t __used r_eax, r_ebx, r_ecx, r_ static uint16_t __used r_cs, r_ds, r_es, r_fs, r_gs, r_ss, r_tr; static uint32_t __used r_esp; +#ifdef SMP +extern void *bootstacks[]; +static char *bootSTK; +void restore_sub(void); +#endif static void acpi_printcpu(void); static void acpi_realmodeinst(void *arg, bus_dma_segment_t *segs, int nsegs, int error); @@ -80,6 +89,9 @@ static void acpi_alloc_wakeup_handler(v /* XXX shut gcc up */ extern int acpi_savecpu(void); extern int acpi_restorecpu(void); +#ifdef SMP +extern void acpi_kicksub(void); +#endif #ifdef __GNUCLIKE_ASM __asm__(" \n\ @@ -104,6 +114,18 @@ acpi_restorecpu: \n\ movl %eax,(%esp) \n\ xorl %eax,%eax \n\ ret \n\ + \n" +#ifdef SMP +" .text \n\ + .p2align 2, 0x90 \n\ + .type acpi_kicksub, @function \n\ +acpi_kicksub: \n\ + .align 4 \n\ + movl bootSTK,%esp \n\ + jmp restore_sub \n\ + ret \n" +#endif /* SMP */ + "\ \n\ .text \n\ .p2align 2, 0x90 \n\ @@ -150,6 +169,29 @@ acpi_savecpu: \n\ "); #endif /* __GNUCLIKE_ASM */ +#ifdef SMP +int acpi_cpu_resumed[MAXCPU]; +int acpi_curcpu; +extern int switch_debug; + +void restore_sub() +{ + ACPI_DISABLE_IRQS(); + /*printf("RESTORE_SUB\n");*/ + lapic_disable(); + pmap_init_pat(); + /*printf("LAPIC_SETUP\n");*/ + lapic_setup(0); + if (bootverbose) + lapic_dump("RESTORE_SUB"); + /*printf("RESTORE_SUB2\n");*/ + ACPI_ENABLE_IRQS(); + + acpi_cpu_resumed[acpi_curcpu]= 1; + acpi_restorecpu(); +} +#endif /* SMP */ + static void acpi_printcpu(void) { @@ -187,6 +234,120 @@ acpi_stop_beep(void *arg) outb(0x61, inb(0x61) & ~0x3); } +#ifdef SMP +int resume_other_cpu(struct acpi_softc *sc, int cpu); +int resume_other_cpu(struct acpi_softc *sc, int cpu) +{ + int ms; + int apic_id = cpu_apic_ids[cpu]; + int gsel_tss; + + gsel_tss = GSEL(GPROC0_SEL, SEL_KPL); + acpi_curcpu = cpu; + bootSTK= (char *)bootstacks[cpu] + KSTACK_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE - 4; + /*printf("%p\n", bootSTK); */ + p_gdt = (struct region_descriptor *) + (sc->acpi_wakeaddr + physical_gdt); + saved_gdt.rd_limit = NGDT * sizeof(gdt[0]) -1; + saved_gdt.rd_base = (int )&gdt[cpu*NGDT]; + p_gdt->rd_limit = saved_gdt.rd_limit; + p_gdt->rd_base = vtophys(saved_gdt.rd_base); + r_esp = stoppcbs[cpu].pcb_esp; + r_ebp = stoppcbs[cpu].pcb_ebp; + r_esi = stoppcbs[cpu].pcb_esi; + r_edi = stoppcbs[cpu].pcb_edi; + r_efl = stoppcbs[cpu].pcb_psl; + ret_addr = stoppcbs[cpu].pcb_eip; + WAKECODE_FIXUP(physical_esp, uint32_t, vtophys(bootSTK) ); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_cr0, uint32_t, r_cr0); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_cr2, uint32_t, r_cr2); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_cr3, uint32_t, r_cr3); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_cr4, uint32_t, r_cr4); + + WAKECODE_FIXUP(resume_beep, uint32_t, 0); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(reset_video, uint32_t, 0); + + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_tr, uint16_t, gsel_tss); + WAKECODE_BCOPY(previous_gdt, struct region_descriptor, saved_gdt); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_ldt, uint16_t, saved_ldt); + WAKECODE_BCOPY(previous_idt, struct region_descriptor, saved_idt); + + WAKECODE_FIXUP(where_to_recover, void *, acpi_kicksub); + + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_ds, uint16_t, r_ds); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_es, uint16_t, r_es); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_fs, uint16_t, r_fs); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_gs, uint16_t, 0); + WAKECODE_FIXUP(previous_ss, uint16_t, r_ss); + + /* do an INIT IPI: assert RESET */ + lapic_ipi_raw(APIC_DEST_DESTFLD | APIC_TRIGMOD_EDGE | + APIC_LEVEL_ASSERT | APIC_DESTMODE_PHY | APIC_DELMODE_INIT, apic_id); + + /* wait for pending status end */ + lapic_ipi_wait(-1); + + /* do an INIT IPI: deassert RESET */ + lapic_ipi_raw(APIC_DEST_ALLESELF | APIC_TRIGMOD_LEVEL | + APIC_LEVEL_DEASSERT | APIC_DESTMODE_PHY | APIC_DELMODE_INIT, 0); + + /* wait for pending status end */ + DELAY(10000); /* wait ~10mS */ + lapic_ipi_wait(-1); + /* + * next we do a STARTUP IPI: the previous INIT IPI might still be + * latched, (P5 bug) this 1st STARTUP would then terminate + * immediately, and the previously started INIT IPI would continue. OR + * the previous INIT IPI has already run. and this STARTUP IPI will + * run. OR the previous INIT IPI was ignored. and this STARTUP IPI + * will run. + */ + + /* do a STARTUP IPI */ + lapic_ipi_raw(APIC_DEST_DESTFLD | APIC_TRIGMOD_EDGE | + APIC_LEVEL_DEASSERT | APIC_DESTMODE_PHY | APIC_DELMODE_STARTUP | + ((sc->acpi_wakephys >>12)&0xff), apic_id); + lapic_ipi_wait(-1); + DELAY(200); /* wait ~200uS */ + + /* + * finally we do a 2nd STARTUP IPI: this 2nd STARTUP IPI should run IF + * the previous STARTUP IPI was cancelled by a latched INIT IPI. OR + * this STARTUP IPI will be ignored, as only ONE STARTUP IPI is + * recognized after hardware RESET or INIT IPI. + */ + + lapic_ipi_raw(APIC_DEST_DESTFLD | APIC_TRIGMOD_EDGE | + APIC_LEVEL_DEASSERT | APIC_DESTMODE_PHY | APIC_DELMODE_STARTUP | + ((sc->acpi_wakephys >>12)&0xff), apic_id); + lapic_ipi_wait(-1); + DELAY(200); /* wait ~200uS */ + + /* Wait up to 5 seconds for it to start. */ + for (ms = 0; ms < 5000; ms++) { + if(acpi_cpu_resumed[cpu]){ + acpi_cpu_resumed[cpu]= 0; + return 0; + } + DELAY(1000); + } + return -1; /* return FAILURE */ + +} +int resume_other_cpus(struct acpi_softc *sc); +int resume_other_cpus(struct acpi_softc *sc) +{ + int i; + + *((volatile u_short *) 0x467) = 0; + *((volatile u_short *) 0x468) = (sc->acpi_wakephys&0xffff0)>>4; + + for(i = 1; i < mp_ncpus; i++){ + resume_other_cpu(sc, i); + } + return 0; +} +#endif /* SMP */ int acpi_sleep_machdep(struct acpi_softc *sc, int state) { @@ -200,6 +360,9 @@ acpi_sleep_machdep(struct acpi_softc *sc if (sc->acpi_wakeaddr == 0) return (0); +#ifdef SMP + stop_cpus(PCPU_GET(other_cpus)); +#endif AcpiSetFirmwareWakingVector(sc->acpi_wakephys); ef = read_eflags(); @@ -270,12 +436,22 @@ acpi_sleep_machdep(struct acpi_softc *sc if (bootverbose) { acpi_savecpu(); acpi_printcpu(); } + pmap_init_pat(); +#ifdef SMP + resume_other_cpus(sc); + if (bootverbose) + lapic_dump("MAIN"); +#endif } - out: +#ifdef SMP + restart_cpus(stopped_cpus); +#endif load_cr3(cr3); write_eflags(ef); + if (mem_range_softc.mr_op && mem_range_softc.mr_op->reinit) + mem_range_softc.mr_op->reinit(&mem_range_softc); /* If we beeped, turn it off after a delay. */ if (acpi_resume_beep) Index: sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.286 diff -u -r1.286 mp_machdep.c --- sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c 10 Apr 2008 18:38:31 -0000 1.286 +++ sys/i386/i386/mp_machdep.c 13 May 2008 07:08:29 -0000 @@ -1299,10 +1299,11 @@ int cpu = PCPU_GET(cpuid); int cpumask = PCPU_GET(cpumask); - savectx(&stoppcbs[cpu]); - - /* Indicate that we are stopped */ - atomic_set_int(&stopped_cpus, cpumask); + if(savectx(&stoppcbs[cpu])){ + /* Indicate that we are stopped */ + wbinvd(); + atomic_set_int(&stopped_cpus, cpumask); + } /* Wait for restart */ while (!(started_cpus & cpumask)) Index: sys/i386/i386/swtch.s =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/i386/swtch.s,v retrieving revision 1.156 diff -u -r1.156 swtch.s --- sys/i386/i386/swtch.s 22 Aug 2007 05:06:14 -0000 1.156 +++ sys/i386/i386/swtch.s 9 May 2008 15:16:03 -0000 @@ -413,6 +413,6 @@ 1: popfl #endif /* DEV_NPX */ - + movl $1, %eax ret END(savectx) Index: sys/i386/include/pcb.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/include/pcb.h,v retrieving revision 1.56 diff -u -r1.56 pcb.h --- sys/i386/include/pcb.h 29 Dec 2005 13:23:48 -0000 1.56 +++ sys/i386/include/pcb.h 24 Apr 2008 06:46:59 -0000 @@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ struct trapframe; void makectx(struct trapframe *, struct pcb *); -void savectx(struct pcb *); +int savectx(struct pcb *); #endif #endif /* _I386_PCB_H_ */ --Multipart=_Thu__28_May_2009_20_18_44_+0900_2JXH5XYx0UfrcBzn-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 28 22:03:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C669106566C for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debt@officehlp4u.com) Received: from officehlp4u.com (ip-67-205-67-141.static.privatedns.com [67.205.67.141]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC498FC12 for ; Thu, 28 May 2009 22:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debt@officehlp4u.com) Message-ID: <20090528180334.494C891441F59B67@officehlp4u.com> From: debt@officehlp4u.com To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Date: 28 May 2009 18:03:34 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Your Payment X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:03:46 -0000 The following = message is for Homeowners who thought they could not refinance the= ir homes or who cannot afford their current payments:= Tired of being told no by the = banks? 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Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. > We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply > unofficial patch floating around. > > 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify!) > Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. Do you mean in BIOS? I've been fighting with resume issues on my T43 and I suspect that this may be at least a part of the problem. Thanks! -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751 From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 05:23:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663C7106566B; Fri, 29 May 2009 05:23:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Juergen.Dankoweit@t-online.de) Received: from mailout05.t-online.de (mailout05.t-online.de [194.25.134.82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD748FC08; Fri, 29 May 2009 05:23:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Juergen.Dankoweit@t-online.de) Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 1M9uKA-0008OW-04; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:08:10 +0200 Received: from routerdeluxe.juergendankoweit.net (ZkgrDoZYYhAa6iW5SQoR0JYq2+gnwOb6sVKiU5mcoJMeWozii+FG2MNyw5mYQ9aQfr@[87.174.232.198]) by fwd02.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1M9uK4-2Ioyum0; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:08:04 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by routerdeluxe.juergendankoweit.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC89322A80; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:08:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from t43.juergendankoweit.net (t43.juergendankoweit.net [192.168.1.194]) by routerdeluxe.juergendankoweit.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id F22FD229D9; Fri, 29 May 2009 07:07:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4A1F6DAF.1080108@FreeBSD-Onkel.de> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 07:07:59 +0200 From: Juergen.Dankoweit@t-online.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=FCrgen_Dankoweit?=) User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Oberman References: <20090529034156.BBDA51CC09@ptavv.es.net> In-Reply-To: <20090529034156.BBDA51CC09@ptavv.es.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-ID: ZkgrDoZYYhAa6iW5SQoR0JYq2+gnwOb6sVKiU5mcoJMeWozii+FG2MNyw5mYQ9aQfr X-TOI-MSGID: 1b49c166-18f2-41c4-b8f1-041c857441cc Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, "YAMAMOTO, Taku" , mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Any success with Lenovo T60 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Juergen.Dankoweit@FreeBSD-Onkel.de List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 05:23:31 -0000 Hello Kevin, Kevin Oberman schrieb: >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 18:45:37 +0900 >> From: "YAMAMOTO, Taku" >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> >> Hi Vladimir, >> >> I have an X60 running 8.0-current/i386 as of Apr. 29, 2009 >> which can successfully suspend and resume, though things may be a bit >> different from your case. >> >> There were a couple of pitfalls which I ran into: >> >> 0. Pristine kernels for i386 SMP don't support the resume yet. >> We can either use amd64 ones, stick on i386 UP kernels or apply >> unofficial patch floating around. >> >> 1. DO NOT DISABLE the built-in modem! (It took almost 2 weeks to identify!) >> Disabling it ends up with hanging machine on resume. > > Do you mean in BIOS? > > I've been fighting with resume issues on my T43 and I suspect that this > may be at least a part of the problem. > > Thanks! with my T43 I had similar problems. After disabling APIC (not ACPI!) everything works perfect. Also look here: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_FreeBSD_7_on_a_ThinkPad_T43 Best regards Juergen From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 10:48:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CADE1065675 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:48:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E92E08FC19 for ; Fri, 29 May 2009 10:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922B0184FD3C1; Fri, 29 May 2009 12:48:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4TAlxCe001941; Fri, 29 May 2009 12:47:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:47:59 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090529104758.GA1854@current.Sisis.de> References: <20090428083627.GA3621@rebelion.Sisis.de> <49F715F6.8020603@freebsd.org> <49F71E49.7090001@aol.com> <20090429111016.GA7546@rebelion.Sisis.de> <49F85387.8000201@bahnhofbredband.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <49F85387.8000201@bahnhofbredband.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: Carl Johan Gustavsson Subject: Re: laptop Dell M4400 with -CURRENT? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:48:06 -0000 El día Wednesday, April 29, 2009 a las 03:17:59PM +0200, Carl Johan Gustavsson escribió: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > >Yes, the configurator at dell.com let me select between: > > > >--EMEA Intel Pro Wireless WI-FI 5100 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n 1X2) MiniCard for > >Centrino 2 Label > >--EMEA Intel Pro Wireless 5300 (802.11a/g/ Draft-n 3x3) MiniCard for > >Centrino 2 Label > >--EMEA Dell Wireless 1510 (802.11a/b/g/n 2X3) MiniCard for Core 2 Duo Label > > > >are the two Intel cards supported? and by which module? thx > > > > matthias > The two Intel cards are not supported at the moment but I have seen > that there are some work in progress on them (OpenBSD have a driver for > them). The Dell branded card has a Broadcom chipset it seems, > (bcm94312hmg) and thats not supported either AFAIK. > > One option is to order it without WiFi and put in some Atheros card > yourself (which I did). > > Carl Just to close this thread: I've ordered an Atheros Wifi smallPCI card as well, inserted it into the laptop into the empty WWAN slot (btw: Dell's HTML and picture documentation about how to open the box and do replacements is *very* good); the biggest issue was to connect the two micro antenna plugs onto the card; but after this all is fine now: $ dmesg | fgrep ath ath0: mem 0xf1ff0000-0xf1ffffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci11 ath0: [ITHREAD] ath0: AR2425 mac 14.2 RF5424 phy 7.0 $ ifconfig ath0 ath0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 2290 ether 00:22:43:29:22:cd media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect mode 11g status: associated $ ifconfig wlan0 wlan0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 00:22:43:29:22:cd inet 10.0.1.222 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet OFDM/18Mbps mode 11g status: associated ssid XXXXXXXXXX channel 7 (2442 Mhz 11g) bssid 00:04:e2:a1:76:0b regdomain 96 indoor ecm authmode WPA privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF TKIP 2:128-bit txpower 20 bmiss 7 scanvalid 450 bgscan bgscanintvl 300 bgscanidle 250 roam:rssi 7 roam:rate 5 protmode CTS wme burst roaming MANUAL Carl, thanks again for your hint. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 13:49:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6986710657CF; Fri, 29 May 2009 13:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2455F8FC26; Fri, 29 May 2009 13:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (cazador.sisis.de [193.31.11.193]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53076184FD3C2; Fri, 29 May 2009 15:49:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4TDnpGN003162; Fri, 29 May 2009 15:49:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:49:51 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: Alexander Motin Message-ID: <20090529134950.GA3146@current.Sisis.de> References: <1242469381.00112742.1242456003@10.7.7.3> <4A0F31F0.8090601@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4A0F31F0.8090601@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT && HDA Driver Revision: 20090401_0132 && no recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:49:59 -0000 El día Sunday, May 17, 2009 a las 12:36:48AM +0300, Alexander Motin escribió: > Matthias Apitz wrote: > >I can't get to work recording in environment -CURRENT && HDA Driver > >Revision: 20090401_0132 > > > >the sound output is fine in KDE, but as well the KDE mixer does > >not control it; only with mixer(1) command I can change the volume for > >example; I've already tried all values for setting > > > >$ mixer =rec rdev > > > >but nothing helps switching on the micro. The man page of snd_hda(4) > >explains a lot of device.hints(5) options, but understanding all this is > >out of my control; I'm attaching a 'dmesg | fgrep hdac'. > > > >Any idea how to get recording switched on? I need this for business for > >Skype... This is the last blocking point to switch over to my new Dell > >M4400 > > You have 3 recording sources available via 2 pcm devices. As I can see, > your built-in mic assigned to pcm1 device. Have you tried to record from > pcm1? > > PS: `dmesg | fgrep pcm` is also interesting. As said already, recording from the mic jack for the headset works fine (even without local echo to headset or loudspeaker). How could I record from the built-in mic, i.e. without the headset plug'ed in into the mic jack? I'm attaching 'dmesg | fgrep pcm' as well. Thanks for a hint. matthias pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 29 13:55:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720601065674; Fri, 29 May 2009 13:55:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cmail.optima.ua (cmail.optima.ua [195.248.191.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E2B8FC1A; Fri, 29 May 2009 13:55:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mav@FreeBSD.org) Received: from orphanage.alkar.net (account mav@alkar.net [212.86.226.11] verified) by cmail.optima.ua (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTPA id 244334046; Fri, 29 May 2009 16:55:32 +0300 Message-ID: <4A1FE953.90309@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 16:55:31 +0300 From: Alexander Motin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <1242469381.00112742.1242456003@10.7.7.3> <4A0F31F0.8090601@FreeBSD.org> <20090529134950.GA3146@current.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090529134950.GA3146@current.Sisis.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT && HDA Driver Revision: 20090401_0132 && no recording X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 13:55:39 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > As said already, recording from the mic jack for the headset works fine > (even without local echo to headset or loudspeaker). How could I record > from the built-in mic, i.e. without the headset plug'ed in into the mic > jack? Have you tried to use pcm1/dsp1/mixer1 devices? > I'm attaching 'dmesg | fgrep pcm' as well. Thanks for a hint. > > pcm0: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm1: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 > pcm2: at cad 0 nid 1 on hdac0 This is not verbose output! Real verbose output `|grep pcm` includes several pages! -- Alexander Motin From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 30 14:03:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A45106564A for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 14:03:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from dd12710.kasserver.com (dd12710.kasserver.com [85.13.134.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BEC8FC15 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from localhost.my.domain (ppp-93-104-110-94.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.110.94]) by dd12710.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF40F1842F7A8 for ; Sat, 30 May 2009 16:03:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n4UE3ZUh004584 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 30 May 2009 16:03:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 16:03:35 +0200 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090530140335.GA4500@current.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT (i386) Subject: X.org nv driver (xf86-video-nv-2.1.13) && Quadro FX 770M && dual screens X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 14:03:38 -0000 Hello I'd like to use the external display of my Dell M4400 as a second X display screen, with lower resolution, to connect a beamer to it and to be able to direct X applications to use it with ... -display :0.1 or even just to drag the application to the second display. I have no idea how to configure this. Anyone has any pointer for me where to start reading about this? Is this possible at all with the Quadro FX 770M and the xf86-video-nv driver? The main display on LCD runs with 1920x1200 and I don't have a beamer supporting this resolution. Thanks in advance. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ People who hate Microsoft Windows use Linux but people who love UNIX use FreeBSD.