From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 06:51:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E73F1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:51:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135A08FC14 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n9D6ZbsV084524 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:35:36 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:51:08 -0000 I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to work on FreeBSD failed. There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with mixed results. Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2. Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? Yuri From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 09:29:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA1106568F for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars.engels@0x20.net) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D718FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.0x20.net (mail.0x20.net [217.69.67.217]) by mail.0x20.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8138D398B1 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:10:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from i011-63.fin-nrw.de (i011-63.fin-nrw.de [193.109.238.130]) by 0x20.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:10:41 +0200 Message-ID: <20091013111041.duynuo10gkk04c0w@0x20.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:10:41 +0200 From: Lars Engels To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=_2xd4a81xf084"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:29:20 -0000 This message is in MIME format and has been PGP signed. --=_2xd4a81xf084 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quoting Yuri : > I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi > wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to > work on FreeBSD failed. > There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with > mixed results. > Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? > > I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2. > > Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? There's a Laptop compat list at http://laptop.bsdgroup.de Perhaps you can find some Netbooks there, too. --=_2xd4a81xf084 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: PGP Digital Signature Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAkrURBEACgkQKc512sD3afgBcACgj0ioWZgVZdSkyF+dNi3pK7PF gAQAn0TeSMWsxopFu8m+Q2VCcSj50nFG =M6K9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=_2xd4a81xf084-- From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 10:07:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C301065676 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:07:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@braisel.com) Received: from jehuda.cx2.org (jehuda.cx2.org [85.214.71.246]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54978FC0C for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:07:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (one.0x53.net [88.198.154.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jehuda.cx2.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5241BB4D; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:14:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:45:21 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= To: Yuri Message-ID: <20091013094520.GC32268@trashbin.glave.lan> References: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> X-XMPP-ID: ka@braselmann.org X-PGP-URI: https://cx2.org/kabkey.asc X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII PDF - *NO* MS Office Files! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 10:07:58 -0000 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35:36PM -0700, Yuri wrote: > Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? The problem is that the chipsets and components are changing rapidly. Especially for wlan. Always cheaper,cheaper,cheaper. Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and you'll see. Or buy a 3 year old X32 for 200 Euro, new hdd, some ram, and you've 12" and EVERYTHING works out of the box. André -- O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 14:00:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898BB1065670 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:00:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1548FC0A for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n9DDb8CV067979; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:37:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n9DDb8XO067976; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:37:08 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:37:08 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Yuri In-Reply-To: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> Message-ID: References: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.2 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 07:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:00:30 -0000 On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Yuri wrote: > I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi wouldn't be > supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to work on FreeBSD > failed. The Atheros AR5007 (802.11b/g) works well with FreeBSD 8. That card comes with the Acer Aspire One AOA150 and I think some models of Asus netbooks. There was a Broadcom in an Acer notebook that had never worked with FreeBSD, and replacing that with another AR5007 worked fine. These mini-PCIe cards are easy to replace, at least if the physical design of the computer makes them accessible. A later model of Atheros, the AR5008X (AR5416), did not quite work with FreeBSD: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2009-September/011768.html > There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with > mixed results. They have a good group effort there. Some of the information applies to other brands of netbook, and it would be nice to see that expanded to cover them. > Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? Possibly. The Aspire One does pretty well except for suspend/resume, and I think that's a problem with FreeBSD on most or all SMP notebooks. > I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2. http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5902 > Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 18:19:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C760106566B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri@rawbw.com) Received: from shell.rawbw.com (shell.rawbw.com [198.144.192.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096108FC3D for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eagle.syrec.org (c-24-6-221-126.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.221.126]) (authenticated bits=0) by shell.rawbw.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n9DIIxCi028571; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AD4C492.3070105@rawbw.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 11:18:58 -0700 From: Yuri User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090824) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block References: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: yuri@rawbw.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:19:00 -0000 Hello Warren, Thank you for your very informative reply. Warren Block wrote: >> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? > > Possibly. The Aspire One does pretty well except for suspend/resume, > and I think that's a problem with FreeBSD on most or all SMP notebooks. Will probably have to get Aspire One. >> I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2. > > http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=5902 This is really strange that FreeBSD has problems on S10-2 since Ubuntu seems to work there with only minor problems: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Linux-Discussion/Does-Ubuntu-have-full-dirver-for-S10-2/td-p/157074 Yuri From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 13 21:19:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB8D106568B for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ivakras1@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f218.google.com (mail-ew0-f218.google.com [209.85.219.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39BB8FC13 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy18 with SMTP id 18so4216838ewy.43 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:19:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:from:reply-to :organization:date:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id; bh=1dDcIvnfMbfNSW9Teaf+gi9I/oLwp4NQ/amMp0tNNWQ=; b=sV3rmuo+ct/CP/JS33+lhgQtV1eC4Odc8T+KNlLadXL8yAtsQ9Mai7YAcjfTAZCttN nVn2aKBBSzB99+JQTIF4tiobdkNFKz6hF7Cyj+DFykiJ+ndeQLlh7i4mtTPwXkVRYjB+ z5Oqmq3NksC1wtG+VHroRjZFDb6xY9ICFu1Sk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:from:reply-to:organization:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; b=PBK3X2cXO1KlJLtnfKjlJM8y2aZhsgbCJBYsH7sDhj+ncPke5VMoN8qN4DRouHjY4s VTV96KA8s/boQ/MVWQ+bgLuhfA/EsR9pGLhn+z7ok4SGwXG+EOjx0Yk5t9D7v128dAGC UvajRVq0yIL35IW1P34AEmBd7aWyZz+zJzTbU= Received: by 10.216.86.65 with SMTP id v43mr2667915wee.118.1255467448938; Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx_hp.dhcp.loc ([92.50.244.67]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm170246eyz.8.2009.10.13.13.57.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:57:26 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Dmitry Kolosov Organization: Home Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:57:24 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200910140057.24723.ivakras1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ivakras1@gmail.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:19:22 -0000 > Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and > you'll see. > That was the way i bought my HP Pavilion dv6849er laptop. Just after taking it home i have replaced Intel wifi mini-pcie card, wich was very poorly supported (till novadays), with another one based on Atheros. Thats all, everything works fine (except camera), and i'm become a happy freebsd user. From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 15 00:05:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41791065695 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:05:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from osp@aloha.com) Received: from relay.pixi.com (relay.pixi.com [206.127.224.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8AE68FC23 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from leka.aloha.com (leka.aloha.com [206.127.224.85]) by relay.pixi.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n9F050Yt006233 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:05:00 -1000 (HST) Received: from [66.248.53.18] (01-018.169.popsite.net [66.248.53.18]) by leka.aloha.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.12.11) with SMTP id n9F04sPP006186 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:04:56 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <200910150004.n9F04sPP006186@leka.aloha.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:03 -1000 From: "Gary Dunn" To: "freebsd-mobile" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Newton Mail V/5.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:05:04 -0000 On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 Andr wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35:36PM -0700, Yuri wrote: > >> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? > > The problem is that the chipsets and components are changing rapidly. > Especially for wlan. Always cheaper,cheaper,cheaper. > Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and > you'll see. Is there a FreeBSD live cd? Or do you imply using, say, Ubuntu? -- Gary Dunn, Honolulu osp@aloha.com http://openslate.net/ http://e9erust.blogspot.com/ Sent from a Newton 2100 via Mail V From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 15 00:12:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BEB21065670 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:12:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mattjeet@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vw0-f180.google.com (mail-vw0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C423F8FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws10 with SMTP id 10so173298vws.7 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:12:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IgRtQ7IoTgC6eYqIG5mqepEcvMczfFZUPV9xzLFzW3M=; b=l1LGOTSxJEvWudx3aa4rTmRGQyAgbfAFB0RoEEGvvnBey/60J57iR5DS1MFFdEHB/R pxOHiGe/GN08OihvyRpmcYyMoBrSnp5nNlaoYA8bb+aHjA0khfa64nnDNJMkslmiTpMj 6flzTBEzZG1j4zaVr1m2nGTgGFxCHXdZLEM0g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=XwIc1TWX7hgFIemYtFTZOLAhnfditdMv9Of+8SNZzoRV8C6UIqAhCeV67V7urujax+ So0QSlpFAxJSARBBPRKv2+V7yxEQDnKiVYUDIJgt0jDyznmh29s3vBJYejxrCBLGZzwF +BRW03TD+Le++SwwGzFywbBzgKbLnJ87kd+4g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mattjeet@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.104.212 with SMTP id q20mr13770319vco.107.1255565554963; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:12:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <200910150004.n9F04sPP006186@leka.aloha.com> References: <200910150004.n9F04sPP006186@leka.aloha.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:12:34 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 676a39305605c240 Message-ID: <9740caf0910141712r558d4a47s17e97b48ff592df@mail.gmail.com> From: Matt Olander To: Gary Dunn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-mobile Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: matt@ixsystems.com List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:12:36 -0000 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Gary Dunn wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 Andr =A0 wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:35:36PM -0700, Yuri wrote: >> >>> Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? >> >> The problem is that the chipsets and components are changing rapidly. >> Especially for wlan. Always cheaper,cheaper,cheaper. >> Take a live CD, go to the shop, boot from an external CD Rom and >> you'll see. > > Is there a FreeBSD live cd? Or do you imply using, say, Ubuntu? The latest PC-BSD alpha is now a live DVD. It's based on 8-RC1 and would be good for testing potential systems for compatibility. -matt From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 15 03:36:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85951065676 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from takash-i@sophia.ac.jp) Received: from rockliff.cc.sophia.ac.jp (rockliff.cc.sophia.ac.jp [133.12.140.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FED48FC12 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heuvers.cc.sophia.ac.jp (heuvers.cc.sophia.ac.jp [133.12.138.37]) by rockliff.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A1FE8AB86A for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from koetoi.cc.sophia.ac.jp (koetoi.cc.sophia.ac.jp [133.12.138.216]) by heuvers.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936E4B34049 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:33 +0900 (JST) X-AuditID: 850c8ad9-a7ed3bb000000e49-9a-4ad69489366a Received: from heuvers.cc.sophia.ac.jp (heuvers.cc.sophia.ac.jp [133.12.138.37]) by koetoi.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4F1894DC002 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from nagara.cc.sophia.ac.jp (nagara.cc.sophia.ac.jp [133.12.140.76]) by heuvers.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47C03B34049 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:33 +0900 (JST) Received: from [192.168.1.129] (het01.ph.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.104.44]) by nagara.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 359FCB57E87 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4AD6946C.2070308@sophia.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:18:04 +0900 From: Takashi Inoue User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAhFDF1oRREzD Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:36:40 -0000 > I am thinking about buying a netbook. But I am afraid that WiFi > wouldn't be supported. And all my previous attempts to make NDIS to > work on FreeBSD failed. > There is a page about Asus Eee: http://wiki.freebsd.org/AsusEee with > mixed results. > Does this mean that Asus Eee are the best supported/known machines? > > I was thinking about Lenovo S10-2. I wonder why you choose FreeBSD because ATOM N270 has a Hyper-threading and hence support a parallel processing. However, on FreeBSD with SMP kernel, ACPI suspend/resume is not possible. For netbook, suspend/resume shold be important. Most of popular OS except for FreeBSD, support a suspend/resume with parallel processing, eg. Windows, Linux. I recomend you to reconsider. Cheers, T.I. > > Is there a hardware compatibility list for FreeBSD? > > Yuri > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mobile > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mobile-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 15 05:34:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD96106566C for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from sysmon.tcworks.net (sysmon.tcworks.net [65.66.76.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8598FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:34:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from sysmon.tcworks.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sysmon.tcworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n9F5YjSH066082 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:34:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: (from lambert@localhost) by sysmon.tcworks.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id n9F5YikE066081 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:34:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) X-Authentication-Warning: sysmon.tcworks.net: lambert set sender to lambert@lambertfam.org using -f Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:34:44 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20091015053444.GA76271@sysmon.tcworks.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <4AD41FB8.2040309@rawbw.com> <4AD6946C.2070308@sophia.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4AD6946C.2070308@sophia.ac.jp> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: Netbooks good for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:34:48 -0000 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:18:04PM +0900, Takashi Inoue wrote: > I wonder why you choose FreeBSD because ATOM N270 has a > Hyper-threading and hence support a parallel processing. However, on > FreeBSD with SMP kernel, ACPI suspend/resume is not possible. For > netbook, suspend/resume shold be important. Most of popular OS except > for FreeBSD, support a suspend/resume with parallel processing, > eg. Windows, Linux. I recomend you to reconsider. Things may have changed since the last time you tried. Suspend resume works fine on my 64bit, core2duo, Acer Travelmate, FreeBSD 8 with a GENERIC kernel. SMP is enabled. The only thing that doesn't work well in my Acer is the iwn driver. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org