From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 1 00:32:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218551065670 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 00:32:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.236]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52548FC18 for ; Thu, 1 Jan 2009 00:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so7122036rvf.43 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:32:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fAbaeltdGBiUfYSBD13FlXlPGWgCwWa/w1wzXeHgEho=; b=XdrdLg8TOxkP61q6xqcrBrSt4Tj99NWgthN3fcc4LRSOXEDVNuAy8/HRfvMJzAYtDt S777I/Yrx8mog5EQ7iK8boeLo7LwPEZLZslSaPy8fIpkXK1ikXPuhmdmDAtHAKUrUvWi U+7yHzgRtT/kxvxxSBTuIxQ/qK0NakMgJ+A/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=v+HeNe9u8G37wjJlUOE45AQ6kEtG101oSOMD4e0ZBUSABUOVi3IgvMZV6ZrF7JjD/H YrycxLfCNbixugfAxUxJB7WzG+kqXKfxadQwlFinEXoy6l3xOz3kqR5UVpKsFw8NXqW0 SQDgTNaVaWwCgrvbSwgVMO3ymOD03JieRxMgI= Received: by 10.140.165.21 with SMTP id n21mr8048005rve.240.1230769921682; Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.4.70? (c-76-113-34-1.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [76.113.34.1]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm20005201rvf.0.2008.12.31.16.31.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:32:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <495C0F02.6020000@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:32:02 -0700 From: Tim Judd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Keith References: <20081231120905.B77789@pop.citytel.net> In-Reply-To: <20081231120905.B77789@pop.citytel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dell 1950 RAID 1 Drives. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:32:02 -0000 Keith wrote: > Have the above server, drive 0 failed. No onsite spares left. Ordered > replacement drives a week ago but they are still on route and wont be here > till Jan 5 or 6. > > All I have is a test server of the same make/model in my test rack > configured and running a slightly different version of FBSD. > > If I pull a drive from this test server that is already configured to a > RAID contoller and put it into the server with the bad drive, how will > the machine deal with it as it already has a valid config on it? Will I > just be able to go to the RAID Bios and rebuild? > > Or wipe the config on the test server so the drive has no config on it > before installing it into the server with the failed drive? > > Are the SAS drives in a Dell 1950 hot swap by chance? > > Have not had a drive go like this with no spares around before. > > Thanks. Better to ask Dell weather they're hot swap or not as an absolute answer. When I asked, the tech at the time said "the newer PERC controllers are all hotswap, as long as the RAID controller isn't talking to the drive anymore". Given the 2nd system is actively using it, I don't think it's hotswap. As for the config, you'd have to force an integrity/rebuild on the first. Clearing the config on the 2nd shouldn't be necessary. In fact, the second may see a missing drive and panic as is. The PERC6 controllers I deal with at work have a "feature" that I would call a bug. A missing physical disk causes the RAID controller to waste/dump/ignore/forget it's onboard config. You may be dead in the water on the 2nd system until you get a drive to put in. Backup server 1 and 2. And wait for the drive to come. No other good way to solve this problem.