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boundary="Sig_/0aPDJvzf1wlPlgfsObv03vJ"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:14:33 -0000 --Sig_/0aPDJvzf1wlPlgfsObv03vJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:26:57 +0100 Bernt Hansson wrote: [snip] >It doesn't really matter much what they say in their eula. If i bought >a copy then i can do/install whatever I want since there isn't any=20 >agreement between apple and me. For the agreement to be binding I must=20 >sign a contract with apple. That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the EULA. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com According to my best recollection, I don't remember. Vincent "Jimmy Blue Eyes" Alo --Sig_/0aPDJvzf1wlPlgfsObv03vJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmp02EACgkQBvaKIJWWCO0nxgCgixZso6wUsxpRt9R+3Px873tC VmwAn2oEmPW9IasBDyMXcdjZMmXsECPn =kL0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/0aPDJvzf1wlPlgfsObv03vJ-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 00:17:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427CC1065678 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:17:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F114C8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:17:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LdZMd-0003dq-IB for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:17:03 +0000 Received: from mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net ([82.237.75.54]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:17:03 +0000 Received: from gilles.ganault by mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:17:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gilles Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:16:51 +0100 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <49A9749E.4000304@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mar92-9-82-237-75-54.fbx.proxad.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783 Sender: news Subject: Re: [6.3] MySQL server doesn't start X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:17:07 -0000 On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:30:06 +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote: >> # cat /etc/rc.conf >> #BAD? mysql-server="YES" >> mysql_server="YES" >The /etc/rc.conf variable should be: > >mysql_enable="YES" > >It will start then ;) Makes sense :-/ Thanks for the prompt reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 28 21:43:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7D2106564A for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdnewb@yahoo.com) Received: from n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com (n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.123]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 813BA8FC16 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:43:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdnewb@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.230.29] by n10.bullet.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 21:29:50 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.83] by t2.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 21:29:50 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.105] by t3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 21:29:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 21:29:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 440947.61703.bm@omp109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 59433 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2009 21:29:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235856590; bh=3uV/nrRteXRXvED4GkSuA+YGe73Kcbbu8tlcrzLGtNI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UkQNsHRsjhI99ou+UHUoqbDIdSvgIFSxAjhgzqeHV/FT8Xy2ZJ4S7y14VLVtp5k/OQUgM8o3hdiatsUOaOVX1baFwZ0j7G5YHZI8tGHy+5TmWbd10kJBOXcam5pWjgG8JyhoJKH62xiqf7PO0IK8JGq9dhoEOXdpzFQ1WjvHP4M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xhj4Z25P6QgmYfM7pSUuNFXTf4g/SVT5OiUz9FDFQBWswrravQAgCzALe6gwjDov7Kmww9mI6C3/+WlSnjjcWFTqr2NEdyL/mJx6W5mgOM8lqPvAPZRZ8LiCuzFyO5C4L9lMQoNEaHP/pvoklvv6qIMeFhmR0xtcLtOc3SepI8Y=; Message-ID: <329160.57918.qm@web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3Ug9.XYVM1k.y3sJpQm6tsgYfVtLonWdN5INBcXRsv1YK757PfSVCMRpM49D9Hbjs0ntv7kQ9NB2NuAKgI.xgxTJY6c.1c1x.Ar_ie5O9Gv9LRl8_WSSrOGz0SQWguUJHimzqqyXIx4lRGxyVSR7wpA1g21_MrxuYOCodIX6Uq5_71jwVJK1Xk4JFIqAD.oNO2LePMfXip4E4Q3N_Zz1DvrfprAuy6cDAzYLVPRk_4WrY_hRRPOLzGZGPZxfMnry Received: from [68.196.21.252] by web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:29:50 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:29:50 -0800 (PST) From: Monty Pyth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:37:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:43:23 -0000 Does anybody know what file Apache reads to get the time zone offset for the httpd-access.log? 68.10.25.173 - - [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0500] "GET /apache_pb.gif HTTP/1.0" 200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "Mozilla/4.08 [en] (Win98; I ;Nav)" Where does Apache get the -0500 from? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 00:02:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5AE106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdnewb@yahoo.com) Received: from n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com (n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.237.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A3718FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:02:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsdnewb@yahoo.com) Received: from [68.142.230.28] by n2.bullet.mail.re3.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 23:49:52 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.81] by t1.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 23:49:52 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.104] by t1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 23:49:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2009 23:49:52 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 504384.82700.bm@omp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38405 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2009 23:49:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235864991; bh=gJ01zM4sHCKXjXwRXbA9N2G4dPrP+OxKmPqPhiUXpmA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wwZnAAiidp3IQRBvk5UHJpAuvIefy0jml4OfU3lZ/4rFNfMljPLOl3SIkDmy5kItzPNG3VVJCAo1SvYuhOe76GhKLIo7RlkdCKjZfmOmwRVaAVEYKawj4CMZtWxl3/LaxhCmKmT604ia/Qzzbtt40kUQXb2RzEozcN/b6aEVq/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lwILd7V0UWcmqMzpc1YogseXM2xHBAubQCJIHWZvP38/cF284VATwWqXz+t1noMSSrGpQTPayQKyfkzN70TUfX1U5SxBFt5qfr48lAw7hNaqbwFi5stReLycrE/QzOsDsN2bjhdYPRL1pPE2ajB4pPDGaxSXDQHuk3ab6I1GvCQ=; Message-ID: <886535.35573.qm@web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: j4vW3iwVM1lJPrF5he4owkEZZD6Ibe0qBAlXyvE.zpIuJE.EG7UNmxt6nYO80vBNr1iVQj1sdL9QI6tqXiY7d6lqS0rnoVS3YhnMjuYptqRqTnRUiGxL0i06HLQ6650qQ6bc1sCiNGuzXASQqfrwBAr.DOcIvSZ7yzLC__26MAPdpthqy8cPMGDcOEZT3r5clhEQBQK9qMTF0EZcBUD2nd08JfMOLqAvFO64kx1JwqZzhNnDIrK9Y9hsdYMPUUmE Received: from [68.196.21.252] by web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:49:51 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:49:51 -0800 (PST) From: Monty Pyth To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:59:33 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:02:30 -0000 Does anyone know what file Apache checks to get the time zone offset for ht= tpd-access.log? =0A=0A65.223.44.56=A0- frank [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0500] "= GET /apache_pb.gif HTTP/1.0" 200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "= Mozilla/4.08 [en] (Win98; I ;Nav)"=0A=A0=0AWhere does Apache get the -0500 = from? I know many people say the system clock, but what file is it checking= for that?=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 01:48:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FA810656DB for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:48:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E848FC13 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:48:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n211mpIp073571 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:48:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n211mpM2073570; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA10945; Sat, 28 Feb 09 17:46:03 PST Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:45:45 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: utisoft@gmail.com Message-Id: <49a9e8c9.CBWySza0InGAcO8i%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <49A98FE5.7000404@hotmail.com> <49A9A52C.2010507@bah.homeip.net> <49A9ACBC.30506@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:48:54 -0000 Chris Rees wrote: > That passage says that any agreement with the knowledge of the > relationship in good faith is valid. > > Where does it mention the difference between a click-through > licence and an oral agreement? With apologies to a certain former U.S. President, that may depend on the definitions of the terms. Does someone who simply clicks "yes", without actually reading the license first, have "knowledge of the relationship"? Does someone who clicks "yes", while having no intention to comply with the terms, act "in good faith"? For that matter, does Apple -- having never met the "clicker" in person or even on line -- have "knowledge of the relationship"? > Though a test case would be nice. Has anyone been lunatic > enough to try taking it to court? Given the nature of the situation, I'd think the only party likely to take it to court would be Apple. You seem to be saying that they would be crazy to do so. I suspect the OP would agree :) > Otherwise a clicked "Yes" counts as an agreement made in good faith. Are you qualified to give legal advice concerning Swedish law? I am not, but I would guess that you could well be right *if* Sweden has adopted something similar to DMCA; otherwise I am not so sure. (I don't suppose the U.S. would have adopted DMCA unless it had been thought to produce substantially different results than the previous copyright law.) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 01:50:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3E9106572E for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:50:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: from wave.radel.com (wave.radel.com [216.143.151.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ADE8FC20 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:50:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jon@radel.com) Received: by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.1.6) with PIPE id 8422592; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:50:31 -0500 Received: from [192.168.43.221] (account jon@radel.com HELO braeburn.local) by wave.radel.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 8422585; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:50:12 -0500 Message-ID: <49A9E9D3.8030400@radel.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:50:11 -0500 From: Jon Radel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monty Pyth References: <886535.35573.qm@web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <886535.35573.qm@web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms040305040205060306050108" X-Radel.com-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Jon for more information X-Radel.com-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro CLI mailer Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:50:32 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms040305040205060306050108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Monty Pyth wrote: > Does anyone know what file Apache checks to get the time zone offset for httpd-access.log? > > 65.223.44.56 - frank [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0500] "GET /apache_pb.gif HTTP/1.0" 200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "Mozilla/4.08 [en] (Win98; I ;Nav)" > > Where does Apache get the -0500 from? I know many people say the system clock, but what file is it checking for that? Why must it be getting it from a file? See, for example, man 2 gettimeofday which is a call in the standard C library that returns the time in GMT *and* the time zone the system clock is set to. Now, if you were to tell us that your system isn't set to EST (or current equivalent), then this becomes a more interesting conversation.... 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owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 02:49:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550D8106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 326EF8FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 3E63716B542; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:49:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.73]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D70DF16B56E; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:49:07 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:47:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:47:41 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Monty Pyth In-Reply-To: <329160.57918.qm@web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090228185015.P92507@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <329160.57918.qm@web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:49:11 -0000 On Sat, 28 Feb 2009, Monty Pyth wrote: > Does anybody know what file Apache reads to get the time zone offset for > the httpd-access.log? Just a shot in the dark, but why would it get this info from a file instead of date? (Which in turn depends on the TZ environmenal variable if it is set and info from the system clock and kernel variables. Date can set the kernel values or the system clock, or you can use the Configure>>Time Zone option in /usr/bin/sysinstall. > 68.10.25.173 - - [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0500] "GET /apache_pb.gif > HTTP/1.0" 200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "Mozilla/4.08 [en] > (Win98; I ;Nav)" > Where does Apache get the -0500 from? See what date '+%z' gets you. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 02:49:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD617106567C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955908FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A363CC1C; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 03:49:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n212nZnR003226; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 03:49:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 03:49:35 +0100 From: Polytropon To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-Id: <20090301034935.eaf6d7d0.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49a9e8c9.CBWySza0InGAcO8i%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <49A98FE5.7000404@hotmail.com> <49A9A52C.2010507@bah.homeip.net> <49A9ACBC.30506@bah.homeip.net> <49a9e8c9.CBWySza0InGAcO8i%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:49:59 -0000 I don#t want to interrupt. I just like to say that this kind of discussion already took place. On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:45:45 -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Does someone who simply clicks > "yes", without actually reading the license first, have "knowledge > of the relationship"? "Can Your Cat Agree to an EULA?" http://www.osnews.com/comments/21010 -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 02:57:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F7C106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:57:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ds@hacked.com.br) Received: from mail.hacked.com.br (mail.hacked.com.br [66.197.215.149]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE9298FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:57:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ds@hacked.com.br) Received: (qmail 13234 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2009 02:30:16 +0000 Received: from 189-18-76-18.dsl.telesp.net.br (HELO ?192.168.0.104?) (ds@hacked.com.br@189.18.76.18) by mail.hacked.com.br with SMTP; 1 Mar 2009 02:30:16 +0000 Message-ID: <49A9F30C.8020802@hacked.com.br> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:29:32 -0300 From: Vinicius Vianna User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Monty Pyth References: <886535.35573.qm@web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <886535.35573.qm@web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:57:10 -0000 Monty Pyth escreveu: > Does anyone know what file Apache checks to get the time zone offset for httpd-access.log? > > 65.223.44.56 - frank [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0500] "GET /apache_pb.gif HTTP/1.0" 200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "Mozilla/4.08 [en] (Win98; I ;Nav)" > > Where does Apache get the -0500 from? I know many people say the system clock, but what file is it checking for that? > Maybe you should take a look at /etc/localtime, if you wanna change the timezone just copy some zone from /usr/share/zoneinfo to /etc/localtime. Your question was about this right? if apache is getting other timezone than 'date' there's something wrong there. HTH From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 04:03:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93882106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 04:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C22A8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 04:03:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1089252yxl.13 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:03:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t5lGM5NbQD9OECkpV7jMuYAtf63OXhbmJxIFxaj2dvw=; b=nMZO2jJRcL3oaW+DgXy1c+nTemGwYyaFh1EVrCg16ABw+L39feik47P+DcQXzx5TYa bgoJ80Viaz8nbPzs4Yz3yQ3TPOrTUK4TyQFEj3FSB7t4m6p9ABt/Y2rBRwH5++G+sv0c xPxuoxa85DHtW2YID/JvZfPvRhQf7rVmctoJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=khPB7J2BK5LrZ4BtvzlnQyrCsH8nkGVhDXn31ijUcUfuWIcl3IPt7gzxjJHyWxuuab 4ThAet2XTA1NMiRGtqdEU0ED/i7EvRZah2b3PwLdlrQF+RzZIgcTazpP7hGfy3CSLF1Q xjTi7LfPiV/9xZ9ojMtpuIerOHtaXaU7d8e+c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.93.10 with SMTP id t10mr1360689vcm.107.1235880206711; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:03:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49A8D664.1020802@a1poweruser.com> References: <49A8D664.1020802@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:03:26 -0500 Message-ID: <28283d910902282003p7212ea1dqb7ad5f9585490eb4@mail.gmail.com> From: matt donovan To: Fbsd1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Xorg package update X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:03:27 -0000 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Fbsd1 wrote: > When is the the X-Org mega package going to be recreated so it contains all > the fixes caused by 7.1 release as detailed in /usr/ports/UPDATEING? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" it's been getting remade almost every day or so From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 05:48:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88812106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 05:48:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DC68FC13 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 05:48:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glyn@millingtons.org) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,283,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="74555460" Received: from unknown (HELO glynthebearded.millingtons.org) ([82.152.120.109]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 05:19:57 +0000 Received: by glynthebearded.millingtons.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 69BEF5DAE; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 05:12:43 +0000 (GMT) To: ipfreak@yahoo.com References: <519648.29931.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Organization: Central Church, Torquay, U.K. X-Now-Playing: There's a deathly hush in the close tonight! X-Liturgical-Date: Sunday: First Sunday of Lent, A.D. 2009 From: Glyn Millington Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:12:43 +0000 In-Reply-To: <519648.29931.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (gahn's message of "Sat\, 28 Feb 2009 15\:10\:10 -0800 \(PST\)") Message-ID: <86sklxn7w4.fsf@nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: xi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glyn@millingtons.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:48:49 -0000 gahn writes: > Hi all: > > I am rebuilding those ports and run into some problems. one of those > is: > > checking for XINPUT... configure: error: Package requirements (x11 xext > xi >= 1.2 inputproto >= 1.5) were not met: > > Requested 'xi >= 1.2' but version of Xi is 1.1.3 > > searching for a while and can't find this "xi". how could I upgrade > this "xi"? /usr/ports/X11/libXi would be my guess :-) You may need to update your ports tree. atb Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 06:37:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3D0106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494368FC19 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:37:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so1891634rvb.43 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=BIrnHqaiZaNDdlfMF0eHGs/hg2nSqelN61DJQ5Hwtpw=; b=RTRxkldTNJIoA6j5m8U4hJL6WF5v5TdFqfJ5t575bWBTus7oqiRPCRxoIeo7wiq7ZT BlQbFZGEdc7lm0LQLMnPd5LoTspg5poc1JHWfEAF/I8T7Ed2UvXEemJMdZIIUJ7Rcsbq 7OTi6eX04Y6d8osqBzrfciZ11nq/F84RiKt9U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=QUNznL/sMLb9ChUiRU0bjU1p2DcRYuDv+UKnkZJ7X+tVVqE1Z02k3IVw53K179bexf 828BPzvJNCNB5/mq3cGn2hRMVJVK+mtGIoH2HKN8LHjtgNUs8YaYz1OE+8dU1k8Aya9r x/OTQAZzy/TixNh/tNg63vVk/hku45hOlCEUU= Received: by 10.140.133.10 with SMTP id g10mr2199283rvd.113.1235889454920; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (pool-71-112-33-77.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.33.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm5012970rvb.6.2009.02.28.22.37.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:33 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Oppermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:37:26 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:37:35 -0000 > > That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply > > open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the > > EULA. > > Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is presented and must be agreed to before use. I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and ill-advised. Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their license agreements in order to prevent it. > If you are under 18 you can't make any > legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or guardians are usually held responsible. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 07:23:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87F9106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6208FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:23:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so1858571wfd.7 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:23:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Ya301M192akxCrS4Pb5h9nXr1GJRUlBjs4douV9HSio=; b=c2vy8nTwuL32Q2Mf77eC4eRpIeY4zHLg0w9eZj2U37cSO5BQ8uJ1XP9bv6UFghD8WB 7mdPjoykZrjsctmSfNs8wO05aqPxvy0ymqJM1TVeulAQo4mgni5WAbZ4daKNEy0/QRMa FavoLpPTaFBltw56CZX1auH2I3sK+5vDArMBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sZwDfYTXoDaG/r4W3vJQdYWwSxfCAQ4mP6vssNv75gAwC7xdHFCw5IornYfbZgpwWJ wPQ9j+yz/oensnyt8+Q4Hb61NKeKcUaCL/UPytfBWAmVbxOdv0a8Ujfbrfilr/hRlrkj 8aTKxCF7ixG9B/vBKzkKJQGQvs4IhYoVHkGHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.166.2 with SMTP id o2mr2284655wfe.58.1235890543703; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:55:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:55:43 +0800 Message-ID: From: lacalling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: A problem about pkg_deinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:23:37 -0000 I have some problems about pkg_deinstall. pkg_deinstall -R deletes packages depended recursively. but it seems to crashes some other packages. for example,i installed pkg A,it depends on pkg b,c,d. pkg_deinstall -R will deletes A,b,c,d. but if b is depended by some other pkg X which i use,X probably will crash. i read man pkg_deinstall,but got no further info. could anyone kindly help me to find out how to delete pkgs only depended by A? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 07:35:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA64106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251BC8FC13 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:35:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8634D1173C4D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:35:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49AA3AAE.1040400@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:35:10 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:35:42 -0000 Charles Oppermann wrote: >>> That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply >>> open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the >>> EULA. >>> >> Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. >> > > That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X > license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: > > http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf > > There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line > translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; > use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not > agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail > materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is > presented and must be agreed to before use. > > I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements > and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in > violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a > handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and > ill-advised. > > Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply > weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from > occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't > enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. > > ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their > license agreements in order to prevent it. > > >> If you are under 18 you can't make any >> legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. >> This list is great for many reasons. This thread is not one of them. Trying to convince people to use Hackintosh is about as ridiculous as using on-line translation tool to deliver a rendition on Swedish law. Surely there is a better forum to debate this? Like off-list... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 07:36:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA737106568C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AFC8FC28 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LdgDb-0000nd-GI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:36:11 +0000 Received: from pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.62.79]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:36:11 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:36:11 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 02:36:53 -0500 Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: A problem about pkg_deinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:36:13 -0000 lacalling wrote: > I have some problems about pkg_deinstall. > > pkg_deinstall -R deletes packages depended recursively. > > but it seems to crashes some other packages. > > for example,i installed pkg A,it depends on pkg b,c,d. > > pkg_deinstall -R will deletes A,b,c,d. > > but if b is depended by some other pkg X which i use,X probably will > crash. > > i read man pkg_deinstall,but got no further info. > > could anyone kindly help me to find out how to delete pkgs only depended > by A? -r --recursive Deinstall all those packages depending on the given packages as well. -R --upward-recursive Deinstall all those packages required by the given packages as well. Makes a difference on whether the "R" is upper or lower case. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 07:47:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594AE1065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:47:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0178FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A661AFC1FE; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:47:33 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:47:22 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282247.22739.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: lacalling Subject: Re: A problem about pkg_deinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:47:34 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 21:55:43 lacalling wrote: > I have some problems about pkg_deinstall. > > pkg_deinstall -R deletes packages depended recursively. > > but it seems to crashes some other packages. > > for example,i installed pkg A,it depends on pkg b,c,d. > > pkg_deinstall -R will deletes A,b,c,d. > > but if b is depended by some other pkg X which i use,X probably will crash. Aside what Michael pointed out, ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves is much easier for this task. It will only delete leaves, so if b is still needed by X, it will not come up on the next iteration. And you get to see the short description of the package, so may decide to keep it anyway... -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:06:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF6C106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1388FC1A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.51]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:05:56 -0800 Message-ID: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:06:10 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 08:05:56.0678 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CC27E60:01C99A44] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:06:11 -0000 I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such am application available? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:12:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95115106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65FB08FC1A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:12:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B659DAFC1FE; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:12:05 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:12:05 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <886535.35573.qm@web111204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49A9E9D3.8030400@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <49A9E9D3.8030400@radel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282312.05400.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Monty Pyth , Jon Radel Subject: Re: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:12:06 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 16:50:11 Jon Radel wrote: > Monty Pyth wrote: > > Does anyone know what file Apache checks to get the time zone offset for > > httpd-access.log? > > > > 65.223.44.56 - frank [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0500] "GET /apache_pb.gif > > HTTP/1.0" 200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "Mozilla/4.08 [en] > > (Win98; I ;Nav)" > > > > Where does Apache get the -0500 from? I know many people say the system > > clock, but what file is it checking for that? > > Why must it be getting it from a file? See, for example, > > man 2 gettimeofday > > which is a call in the standard C library that returns the time in GMT > *and* the time zone the system clock is set to. It's still a file....../etc/localtime. Yes, gettimeofday gets it from there, really. See the Note: timezone is no longer used; this information is kept outside the kernel. Also see, tzsetup(8), specifically the FILES and BUGS section. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:19:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978E21065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682C68FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:19:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF97EAFC1FE; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:19:11 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, glyn@millingtons.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:19:11 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <519648.29931.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <86sklxn7w4.fsf@nowhere.org> In-Reply-To: <86sklxn7w4.fsf@nowhere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282319.11605.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: ipfreak@yahoo.com Subject: Re: xi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:19:12 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 20:12:43 Glyn Millington wrote: > gahn writes: > > Hi all: > > > > I am rebuilding those ports and run into some problems. one of those > > is: > > > > checking for XINPUT... configure: error: Package requirements (x11 xext > > xi >= 1.2 inputproto >= 1.5) were not met: > > > > Requested 'xi >= 1.2' but version of Xi is 1.1.3 > > > > searching for a while and can't find this "xi". how could I upgrade > > this "xi"? > > /usr/ports/X11/libXi would be my guess :-) The long answer: - this is an error from pkg-config - pkg-config stores version information in .pc files - xorg uses descriptive names for these modules, which don't always match the capitalization or lib prefix of the port, but sometimes does. - /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.xorg.mk maps the .pc files to the port directories Therefore, to find out: $ grep xi.pc /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.xorg.mk xi_LIB_PC_DEPENDS= ${LOCALBASE}/libdata/pkgconfig/xi.pc: ${PORTSDIR}/x11/libXi -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:22:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071A3106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:22:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FBE8FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:22:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFT007NAJ8VQU70@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n218M65B024432; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:22:06 -0500 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:22:06 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd1 Message-id: <49AA45AE.8040702@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:22:09 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on the > package system instead of the port system. Is there such am > application available? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > portupgrade has an option to install packages if current with the port version From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:32:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A222106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC418FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:32:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A65AFC1FE; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:32:00 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:32:00 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282332.00368.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Roy Stuivenberg Subject: Re: screensaver blanktime in the kernel X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:32:01 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 08:24:52 Roy Stuivenberg wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to set screensaver blanktime in the kernel. > I have daemon_saver set in the kernel also, and all the needed components > in kernel. > When I set blanktime in rc.conf, it's not working. > After reboot, daemon_saver starts at the spot, but it's not returning > anymore. Weird, works for me, but haven't compiled it in the kernel. daemon_saver is loaded as kernel module on request. blanktime="300" saver="daemon" in /etc/rc.conf works on a GENERIC kernel. Try taking it out of the kernel config, recompile/install kernel and see if it works then. Note that without sysmouse, you will have to press a key to clear the screensaver. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:37:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49CA1065675 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914E28FC2B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:37:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.51]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:37:25 -0800 Message-ID: <49AA4954.7010700@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:37:40 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 08:37:25.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[F2900F60:01C99A48] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Xorg mouse and massive error log messages problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:37:40 -0000 Just installed Xorg package from parkages-current hoping to get environment containing all the fixes. Still have the no mouse curser movement on xfce desktop. Adding Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" statement to ServerLayout section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf got the mouse curser moving. But I still get the the mouse error messages in the X11 log. {EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device "PS/2 Mouse" (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed Is there some other correct solution? I am receiving massive flooding of the Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" with the follow messages Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0" I found a post in the questions archives where the person was saying these messages are meaningless and can be ignored. It's not a problem the ignore them, but my log get massive in size and consumes my free disk space. I know i can configure to rotate the log at a given size. But that is not the solution. I need to know how to stop these messages from being issued in the first place. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:38:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9144F1065675 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BAE8FC1B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:38:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14041AFC1FE; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:38:26 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:38:25 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49A95AF8.2060608@gmail.com> <49A969A1.90001@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49A969A1.90001@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282338.25799.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Andrei Brezan Subject: Re: Odd problem with DNS and IP change. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:38:26 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 07:43:13 Andrei Brezan wrote: > Andrei Brezan wrote: > > "ping mail.domain.com" it tries to get to 10.1.1.1 the old ip and gets > > time to live exceeded fro an ip along the route. When i try to ping > > domain.com it gets all ok as it pings the new ip. > Disregard my noise. It was a file called hosts in /etc, changed there > the ip for mail.domain.com and now ping works ok. > Sorry about that. As a rule, only use /etc/hosts for hosts that cannot be resolved by DNS (i.e.: local network) or NFS hosts that provide critical filesystems (because the resolver might not be reachable at /etc/rc.d/mountcritremote time). -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:44:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6BE1065674 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E678FC2B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:44:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFT008PUK9FDRE0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n218i2YV039822; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:44:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:44:02 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <49AA4954.7010700@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd1 Message-id: <49AA4AD2.8030908@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <49AA4954.7010700@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Xorg mouse and massive error log messages problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:44:05 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > Just installed Xorg package from parkages-current hoping to get > environment containing all the fixes. Still have the no mouse curser > movement on xfce desktop. > > Adding > Option "AllowEmptyInput" "Off" > statement to ServerLayout section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf > got the mouse curser moving. > But I still get the the mouse error messages in the X11 log. > > {EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0 Device busy. > (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "PS/2 Mouse" > (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed > > Is there some other correct solution? > > > I am receiving massive flooding of the Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" > with the follow messages > > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0" > > I found a post in the questions archives where the person was saying > these messages are meaningless and can be ignored. It's not a problem > the ignore them, but my log get massive in size and consumes my free > disk space. I know i can configure to rotate the log at a given size. > But that is not the solution. I need to know how to stop these > messages from being issued in the first place. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Under xorg 7.4 you need to gave both dbus and hald running... as to the error message there is not much you can do until every X app is upgraded to support 7.4 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:44:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB50E106568A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A238FC26 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:44:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.51]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:44:44 -0800 Message-ID: <49AA4B0A.8080507@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:44:58 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> <49AA45AE.8040702@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49AA45AE.8040702@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 08:44:44.0444 (UTC) FILETIME=[F83765C0:01C99A49] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:44:59 -0000 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Fbsd1 wrote: >> I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on the >> package system instead of the port system. Is there such am >> application available? >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > portupgrade has an option to install packages if current with the port > version > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I don't do ports if at all possible. I even do the package of the dependents of the ports I am forced to do. So portupgrade is useless to me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 08:59:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29F1106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865E28FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:59:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D411FAFC1FE; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:59:24 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:59:24 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> In-Reply-To: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200902282359.24584.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Fbsd1 Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:59:25 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote: > I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on the > package system instead of the port system. Is there such am application > available? Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 09:00:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7951065689 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0402F8FC25 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:00:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.51]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:00:13 -0800 Message-ID: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:00:27 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 09:00:13.0660 (UTC) FILETIME=[221281C0:01C99A4C] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: link to dos2unix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:00:28 -0000 I use the dos2unix console command all the time. I am tried to typing in that long name. I tried to do a hard link on it. ln /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u This command is accepted without error, but when it execute it d2u xxxx.txt I get message ==oops you renamed me using unix2dos instead. I also tried ln -s /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u and got same results. ls -l does not show dos2unix as linked all ready. What am I doing wrong here? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 09:03:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A851065672 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DF78FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:03:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257D3AFC1FE; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:03:37 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:03:36 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3dd203290902261433y11745fe5n7bb2b0876b264fbe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903010003.36906.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , utisoft@gmail.com Subject: Re: ZFS + Samba = nicely X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:03:38 -0000 On Saturday 28 February 2009 06:23:52 Sean Cavanaugh wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Chris Rees" > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:35 AM > To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" > Subject: Re: ZFS + Samba = nicely > > > 2009/2/26 Brad Pitney : > >> Hi > >> > >> can anyone help me? > >> > >> I am trying to setup a home file server with FreeBSD -CURRENT along with > >> Samba > >> > >> Basically I have followed the wiki for ZFS and done the usual things > >> for Samba like I have before with UFS. > >> > >> Basically my problem is that when I go to create a file or folder, the > >> file server locks up, but I am able to switch terminals with ALT+Fn > >> keys, everything else is locked solid > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Brad > > > > Why are you running an unstable distribution with an unstable > > filesystem for production servers?? > > > > Chris > > Since when are home servers considered production level? Since they put the Ho in SoHo? ;) @Brad: you'll have more luck on freebsd-current mailing list. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 09:06:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9C1065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF668FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFT008F5L9NEZE0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2195k5V055778; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:05:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:05:46 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <49AA4B0A.8080507@a1poweruser.com> To: Fbsd1 Message-id: <49AA4FEA.9080005@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> <49AA45AE.8040702@gmail.com> <49AA4B0A.8080507@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:06:44 -0000 Fbsd1 wrote: > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> Fbsd1 wrote: >>> I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works on >>> the package system instead of the port system. Is there such am >>> application available? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >>> >> portupgrade has an option to install packages if current with the >> port version >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >> > I don't do ports if at all possible. I even do the package of the > dependents of the ports I am forced to do. > So portupgrade is useless to me. > Actually (I have not read the man page in detail) there seems to be a way to say to use packages only.... now there is good reasons for using ports not packages in that god knows when the package was compiled and under what conditions (i.e. it is rolling the dice to weither or not it will work) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 09:08:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CB71065696 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:08:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E0DA8FC28 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:08:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from p28.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-100.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n1SNUH8v006222; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:30:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20090228173013.02810f18@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:30:39 -0600 To: Andrei Brezan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <49A95AF8.2060608@gmail.com> References: <49A95AF8.2060608@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090228-0, 02/28/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2-exp/9057/Sat Feb 28 07:56:20 2009 on betty.computinginnovations.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n1SNUH8v006222 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Odd problem with DNS and IP change. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:08:11 -0000 At 09:40 AM 2/28/2009, Andrei Brezan wrote: >Hello list, > > I have a strange problem and I don't know what to relate it to. > My ISP >changed my IP from (eg) 10.1.1.1 to 15.1.1.1. I have changed my zone >files to reflect that change. > >"dig -t mx domain.com" results in mail.domain.com 3600 IN A 15.1.1.1 >(the new ip). However when i try: > >"ping mail.domain.com" it tries to get to 10.1.1.1 the old ip and gets >time to live exceeded fro an ip along the route. When i try to ping >domain.com it gets all ok as it pings the new ip. I've also tried dig >@(forwarders in named.conf) and they to got the correct mx dns entry for >domain.com. > In rc.conf i have hostname="mail.domain.com" (eg), i haven't changed >it, i'm thinking it's something related to hostid or hostuid but i don't >know where to search for this topic. > If anyone has a clue what to try or where to look upon this behavior >please shed some light. > >Thank you. > Check /etc/hosts which is used before DNS. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 09:56:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4C1106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:56:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 294C88FC1E for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:56:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n219uTKi033102; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:56:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n219uSqW033099; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:56:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:56:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Fbsd1 In-Reply-To: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: References: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: link to dos2unix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:56:41 -0000 > long name. I tried to do a hard link on it. > ln /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u > This command is accepted without error, but when it execute it > d2u xxxx.txt > I get message ==oops you renamed me using unix2dos instead. > I also tried > ln -s /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u > and got same results. ls -l does not show dos2unix as linked all ready. > > What am I doing wrong here? it HAS to be called dos2unix - this program reacts on the name it was called as because dos2unix and unix2dos are the same binary. if called as d2u - it doesn't know what to do. use shell aliases From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 09:58:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5A7106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:58:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.borsatino@alice.it) Received: from smtp-out114.alice.it (smtp-out114.alice.it [85.37.17.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01928FC25 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.borsatino@alice.it) Received: from FBCMMO01.fbc.local ([192.168.68.195]) by smtp-out114.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:46:44 +0100 Received: from FBCMST11V01.fbc.local ([192.168.171.17]) by FBCMMO01.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:46:38 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: libpthread not found Thread-Index: AcmaUfTwySuuWVrdRAOmZUfMlKzfcw== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 09:46:38.0621 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E09D4D0:01C99A52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:58:45 -0000 Hi. I've installed netbeans from ports without error messages. when I = started the program I got an error like this: "libpthread.so.2 needed by = java not found". I've verified that there is a libpthread.so.20 in = /usr/local/lib/pth. I've done a rough attempt making a soft link; after = that I've restarted netbeans; now the error message is: = "/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required by = "java", also present but with version libc.so.7. the same think happen with netbeans 6.1 and with netbeans 6.4 either = installed from ports or packages and also using a binaries.=20 have I done a mistake? how can I fix it? thanks for any idea. Marco. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:02:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928E9106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280458FC19 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:02:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr4.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n21A21vN075804; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:02:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EABD7BAA4; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:02:00 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:02:00 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Fbsd1 Message-ID: <20090301100200.GA36922@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: link to dos2unix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:02:05 -0000 --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 05:00:27PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > I use the dos2unix console command all the time. I am tried to typing in= =20 > that long name. I tried to do a hard link on it. > ln /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u > This command is accepted without error, but when it execute it > d2u xxxx.txt > I get message =3D=3Doops you renamed me using unix2dos instead. > I also tried > ln -s /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u > and got same results. ls -l does not show dos2unix as linked all ready. >=20 > What am I doing wrong here? Usually, programs like this perform dos2unix or unix2dos translations depending on how they are called. So renaming them won't work. Try adding an alias to your favorite shell. That should work. E.g.put 'alias d2u dos2unix' and 'alias u2d unix2dos' in your .cshrc. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmqXRgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUnqACfWNnH1KdEC/LtJqLdLvn5FYIW GR8AoJ47lAk6rbNs5niybUgQAGyoXONE =XR0b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W/nzBZO5zC0uMSeA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:02:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB7C1065677 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D338FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:02:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFT004MENWUC9H0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21A2qP7096506; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:02:53 -0500 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:02:52 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> To: m.borsatino@alice.it Message-id: <49AA5D4C.3070901@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:02:56 -0000 m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: > Hi. > I've installed netbeans from ports without error messages. when I started the program I got an error like this: "libpthread.so.2 needed by java not found". I've verified that there is a libpthread.so.20 in /usr/local/lib/pth. I've done a rough attempt making a soft link; after that I've restarted netbeans; now the error message is: "/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required by "java", also present but with version libc.so.7. > the same think happen with netbeans 6.1 and with netbeans 6.4 either installed from ports or packages and also using a binaries. > have I done a mistake? how can I fix it? > thanks for any idea. > Marco. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > You may want to look at libmap.conf(5) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:15:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAD81065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0818FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:15:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCE2508F2 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:15:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DE850877 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:15:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AA6060.60604@webrz.net> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:16:00 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: MySQL / php differ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:15:58 -0000 | FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE Just upgraded my MySQL server/client to v5.0.77 and php version to php5-5.2.8 but something struck my eye when opening phpmyadmin, saying: 'Your PHP MySQL library version 4.0.27 differs from your MySQL server version 5.0.77. This may cause unpredictable behavior'. I obviously have my php MySQL library running wrong version. Can you tell me How could I solve this matter in a quick way? thanks, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:27:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9031065677 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E59D8FC21 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFT00NAMP1F4YG0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21AREl6006772; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:27:14 -0500 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 05:27:14 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <49AA6060.60604@webrz.net> To: Jos Chrispijn Message-id: <49AA6302.2000408@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <49AA6060.60604@webrz.net> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: MySQL / php differ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:27:16 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > | FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE > > Just upgraded my MySQL server/client to v5.0.77 and php version to > php5-5.2.8 but something struck my eye when opening phpmyadmin, saying: > > 'Your PHP MySQL library version 4.0.27 differs from your MySQL server > version 5.0.77. This may cause unpredictable behavior'. > > I obviously have my php MySQL library running wrong version. Can you > tell me How could I solve this matter in a quick way? > > thanks, > Jos Chrispijn > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > portmaster -rf database/phpmyadmin From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:31:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5303D1065674 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:31:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.borsatino@alice.it) Received: from smtp-out114.alice.it (smtp-out114.alice.it [85.37.17.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0DEB8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:31:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.borsatino@alice.it) Received: from FBCMMO02.fbc.local ([192.168.68.196]) by smtp-out114.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:31:32 +0100 Received: from FBCMST11V01.fbc.local ([192.168.171.17]) by FBCMMO02.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:31:31 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:26:41 +0100 Message-ID: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FB@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: libpthread not found Thread-Index: AcmaVDuyFtqJ4sZTS4CjluMbLCUNjwAAyZ3G References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> <49AA5D4C.3070901@gmail.com> From: To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 10:31:31.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2F052D0:01C99A58] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:31:28 -0000 thanks ... but ... how? now I don't get the first message; but the second tells me that a = library is missing, but it is present. anyway I' prepared a very simple /etc/libmap.conf like this: # /etc/libmap.conf # # candidate mapping # libc.so.6 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 but clearly this is not enough. should I restart the system or use a = program to make the change accepted? Marco -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Aryeh M. Friedman [mailto:aryeh.friedman@gmail.com] Inviato: dom 01/03/2009 11.02 A: m.borsatino@alice.it Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Oggetto: Re: libpthread not found =20 m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: > Hi. > I've installed netbeans from ports without error messages. when I = started the program I got an error like this: "libpthread.so.2 needed by = java not found". I've verified that there is a libpthread.so.20 in = /usr/local/lib/pth. I've done a rough attempt making a soft link; after = that I've restarted netbeans; now the error message is: = "/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libc.so.6" not found, required by = "java", also present but with version libc.so.7. > the same think happen with netbeans 6.1 and with netbeans 6.4 either = installed from ports or packages and also using a binaries.=20 > have I done a mistake? how can I fix it? > thanks for any idea. > Marco. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > =20 You may want to look at libmap.conf(5) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:41:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FDF1065675 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:41:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Bordo@ozcevikmobilya.com.tr) Received: from smtp2.tr.net (smtp2.tr.net [195.155.1.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F40C8FC1D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:41:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Bordo@ozcevikmobilya.com.tr) Received: from bb-1a0b594f9be5 (unknown [81.214.158.208]) by smtp2.tr.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DF32887CA for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:10:20 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4127-2200930110101947@bb-1a0b594f9be5> From: "=?windows-1254?Q?=D6z=E7evik_Mobilya_/_Ankara_/Siteler?=" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:10:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: ankara mobilyasi X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:41:45 -0000 Merhaba, iyi gunler=2E =20 Ben Ibrahim Cevik, Ankara siteler b=F6lgesinde mobilya ureticisiyim =20 Oncelikle, verdigim rahatsizliktan dolayi kusura bakmayiniz=2E Sizlere urunlerimi tanitmak, mobilya ihtiyaciniz oldugunda yardimci olmak = istiyorum=2E Urun se=E7eneklerimi www=2Eozcevikmobilya=2Ecom=2Etr web sayf= ami ziyaret ederek inceleyebilirsiniz=2E =20 Ayrica isteginize bagli olarak, kisiye ozel uretim de yapiyorum=2E Ankara siteler bolgesine yolunuz dustugunde sizi showroomumuza konuk etmek= ten ve bir fincan kahve ikram etmektan gurur duyarim=2E Bu vesile ile web = sayfamda yer almayan daha farkli urunlerimi de gorebilirsiniz=2E =20 En icten saygilarimla =20 IIbrahim Cevik Ozcevik Mobilya Tasarim Dekorasyon Imalat Ticaret Ltd Akbal Sk No 8 Siteler Ankara T: +90 312 350 69 75 F: +90 312 348 21 78 Gsm: +90 533 739 84 67 www=2Eozcevikmobilya=2Ecom=2Etr =20 Not: Birden fazla yolladigim elektronik postalar icin, pesinen ozur dileri= m=2E From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 10:52:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC58106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3978FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:52:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.51]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 02:52:32 -0800 Message-ID: <49AA68FB.6010007@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:52:43 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roland Smith References: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> <20090301100200.GA36922@slackbox.xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: <20090301100200.GA36922@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 10:52:33.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[D327EB80:01C99A5B] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: link to dos2unix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:52:48 -0000 Roland Smith wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 05:00:27PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: >> I use the dos2unix console command all the time. I am tried to typing in >> that long name. I tried to do a hard link on it. >> ln /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u >> This command is accepted without error, but when it execute it >> d2u xxxx.txt >> I get message ==oops you renamed me using unix2dos instead. >> I also tried >> ln -s /usr/local/bin/dos2unix /usr/local/bin/d2u >> and got same results. ls -l does not show dos2unix as linked all ready. >> >> What am I doing wrong here? > > Usually, programs like this perform dos2unix or unix2dos translations > depending on how they are called. So renaming them won't work. > > Try adding an alias to your favorite shell. That should work. E.g.put > 'alias d2u dos2unix' and 'alias u2d unix2dos' in your .cshrc. > > Roland Thank you. That worked. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 11:00:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51958106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AAF68FC1D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LdjPZ-0008CJ-BQ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:00:45 +0000 Received: from pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.62.79]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:00:45 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:00:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:01:28 -0500 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> <49AA5D4C.3070901@gmail.com> <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FB@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:00:48 -0000 m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: > thanks ... but ... how? > now I don't get the first message; but the second tells me that a library > is missing, but it is present. anyway I' prepared a very simple > /etc/libmap.conf like this: > > # /etc/libmap.conf > # > # candidate mapping > # > libc.so.6 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 Change to: libc.so.6 libc.so.7 > but clearly this is not enough. should I restart the system or use a > program to make the change accepted? > No need, it is picked up the next time the libmap.conf file is parsed. What is occurring is the java binary was built against libc.so.6, which is what you would find on a FreeBSD 6.x box. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 11:19:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22D71065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.borsatino@alice.it) Received: from smtp-out114.alice.it (smtp-out114.alice.it [85.37.17.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C88F8FC1B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:19:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.borsatino@alice.it) Received: from FBCMMO02.fbc.local ([192.168.68.196]) by smtp-out114.alice.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:19:22 +0100 Received: from FBCMST11V01.fbc.local ([192.168.171.17]) by FBCMMO02.fbc.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:19:21 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:14:32 +0100 Message-ID: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FC@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: libpthread not found Thread-Index: AcmaXuWi1KssQ7FxQ0qfuMjT0kwxrA== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 11:19:21.0999 (UTC) FILETIME=[9211F1F0:01C99A5F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:19:18 -0000 amm ... when I change the 'candidate' something strange begins to = happen: bash doesn't work anymore, saying that it does not find the = library. this happens as soon as I do the change, showing what you've = explained to me. Marco > thanks ... but ... how? > now I don't get the first message; but the second tells me that a = library > is missing, but it is present. anyway I' prepared a very simple > /etc/libmap.conf like this: >=20 > # /etc/libmap.conf > # > # candidate mapping > # > libc.so.6 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 Change to: libc.so.6 libc.so.7 =20 > but clearly this is not enough. should I restart the system or use a > program to make the change accepted? >=20 No need, it is picked up the next time the libmap.conf file is parsed. What is occurring is the java binary was built against libc.so.6, which = is=20 what you would find on a FreeBSD 6.x box.=20 -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 11:20:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DFD1065691 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:20:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053DD8FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:20:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.51]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 03:20:10 -0800 Message-ID: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:20:21 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 11:20:10.0551 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF026470:01C99A5F] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: bsdstats not working in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:20:25 -0000 bsdstats is now in the base system. Have bsdstats_enable="YES" is rc.conf Worked this way in 7.0. What am I missing here??? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 11:24:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E565106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA85A8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21BO272015210; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:24:02 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n21BO272015210 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1235906643; bh=cNDnCCLTS2XiVIK9VAUGu1acyfNzpxRw5PpmeObuB0M=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49AA704C.8060309@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2001=20Mar=202009=2011:23:56=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090218)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Polytropon=20|CC:=20Steve=20Ber trand=20,=20Tim=20Judd=20,=20= 0D=0A=20"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=20,=0D=0A=20"Vasadi=20I.=20Claudiu=20Florin"=20|Subject:=20Re:=20kernel=20#4|References:=20=20<49A95459.7090708@ibctech.ca>=09=09<49A994C F.90201@ibctech.ca>=20<20090228215859.6e728cab.freebsd@edvax.de>|I n-Reply-To:=20<20090228215859.6e728cab.freebsd@edvax.de>|X-Enigmai l-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3 Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0 D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig8FCDD4B5F2235A4CC26D9D1B"; b=xbThBV4YrnfYPPrdX8/LO7n2lcb90YWISMcfivnaintuws3o1NzOWfhbHcIoxVZAu AHZPOV7dcu34TKpuB0+iGbVXnoQEDR9u5vG18bbfBetDXCELEKl2KHWC37+ZH25PRE pThthQv+CDoTdrm0fYfv+1f0FHlv2HKfMbCamLRA= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49AA704C.8060309@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:23:56 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090218) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <49A95459.7090708@ibctech.ca> <49A994CF.90201@ibctech.ca> <20090228215859.6e728cab.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090228215859.6e728cab.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig8FCDD4B5F2235A4CC26D9D1B" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:24:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9059/Sun Mar 1 09:05:32 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Tim Judd , Steve Bertrand , "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: kernel #4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:24:21 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig8FCDD4B5F2235A4CC26D9D1B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Polytropon wrote: > On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:47:27 -0500, Steve Bertrand w= rote: >> Tim Judd wrote: >>> Actually this is the 5th time --- computers start counting at zero. >> Wow, what a nice technicality you have found! >> >> If "computers start counting at zero", and if the system-installed >> kernel starts at zero, how many times has the user taken the bus? >=20 > And how does the computer count more than 1 (which is 2) when > he does only understand 0 and 1? :-) >=20 Same way people from count to 20 -- it takes its shoes off. Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig8FCDD4B5F2235A4CC26D9D1B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkmqcFIACgkQ8Mjk52CukIzHpQCgjVFMqp6u0Nmy2KwllrJCefMc IjoAnjU1e+io7Ay9AbvfNGTyx9VjMZHX =o5jy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig8FCDD4B5F2235A4CC26D9D1B-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 11:39:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C8D106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A0848FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:39:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFT00ARCSECDS11@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21BdkbX038076; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:39:47 -0500 Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:39:46 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FC@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> To: m.borsatino@alice.it Message-id: <49AA7402.8070509@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FC@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:39:50 -0000 Then you will need to limit it to diablo only by placing it in the exec path in []'s m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: > amm ... when I change the 'candidate' something strange begins to happen: bash doesn't work anymore, saying that it does not find the library. this happens as soon as I do the change, showing what you've explained to me. > > Marco > > >> thanks ... but ... how? >> now I don't get the first message; but the second tells me that a library >> is missing, but it is present. anyway I' prepared a very simple >> /etc/libmap.conf like this: >> >> # /etc/libmap.conf >> # >> # candidate mapping >> # >> libc.so.6 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 >> > > Change to: > > libc.so.6 libc.so.7 > > >> but clearly this is not enough. should I restart the system or use a >> program to make the change accepted? >> >> > > No need, it is picked up the next time the libmap.conf file is parsed. > > What is occurring is the java binary was built against libc.so.6, which is > what you would find on a FreeBSD 6.x box. > > -Mike > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 11:54:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AFC106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:54:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52E98FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:54:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LdkFm-0001ja-6D for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:54:42 +0000 Received: from pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net ([72.75.62.79]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:54:42 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:54:42 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:55:25 -0500 Lines: 46 Message-ID: References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FC@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-72-75-62-79.washdc.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:54:44 -0000 m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: [snip] >> thanks ... but ... how? >> now I don't get the first message; but the second tells me that a library >> is missing, but it is present. anyway I' prepared a very simple >> /etc/libmap.conf like this: >> >> # /etc/libmap.conf >> # >> # candidate mapping >> # >> libc.so.6 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 > > Change to: > > libc.so.6 libc.so.7 > >> but clearly this is not enough. should I restart the system or use a >> program to make the change accepted? >> > > No need, it is picked up the next time the libmap.conf file is parsed. > > What is occurring is the java binary was built against libc.so.6, which is > what you would find on a FreeBSD 6.x box. > >> amm ... when I change the 'candidate' something strange begins to happen: >> bash doesn't work anymore, saying that it does not find the library. this >> happens as soon as I do the change, showing what you've explained to me. I am beginning to wonder if the problem isn't a little more involved. Did you upgrade the machine from FreeBSD 6.x to 7.x without rebuilding all your ports? With bash breaking it sounds like it was built for a 6.x box as well, which leads me to wonder how many other ports are the same way. What you also might look into is installing the misc/compat6x port. However, in any event, we need to get down to the bottom of what happened to create the situation. The most obvious thing I can think of is an upgrade of the system from 6 to 7 without a corresponding rebuild or reinstall of all ports. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 12:26:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A04F1065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0184A8FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from games-fd ([192.168.2.138]) by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LdkkY-000NV0-JK for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:26:31 +0000 Message-ID: <49AA7F0E.3060301@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:26:54 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cf.bluelight.org.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I get this error using vexim which is a php front end for exim ( I have mailed there list ) I am running it in a jail and when I goto add a new domain I get Error getting UID/GID. All existing domains and accounts are fine ( these come from another server and have been moved into the jail ) and I can add users to existing domains with out a problem. I get the same error with apache or lighttpd. All joomla sites are working fine so I assume every thing is ok php wise. Nothing gets shown in the web server logs. The uid and gid are set in variables.php but you can also change them if you wish when adding a domain I am just wondering would it be some sort of jail related issue ? But I can not see a sysctl that it maybe [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Subject: Error getting UID/GID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:26:39 -0000 I get this error using vexim which is a php front end for exim ( I have mailed there list ) I am running it in a jail and when I goto add a new domain I get Error getting UID/GID. All existing domains and accounts are fine ( these come from another server and have been moved into the jail ) and I can add users to existing domains with out a problem. I get the same error with apache or lighttpd. All joomla sites are working fine so I assume every thing is ok php wise. Nothing gets shown in the web server logs. The uid and gid are set in variables.php but you can also change them if you wish when adding a domain I am just wondering would it be some sort of jail related issue ? But I can not see a sysctl that it maybe sysctl -a | grep jail security.jail.jailed: 0 security.jail.mount_allowed: 0 security.jail.chflags_allowed: 0 security.jail.allow_raw_sockets: 0 security.jail.enforce_statfs: 2 security.jail.sysvipc_allowed: 0 security.jail.socket_unixiproute_only: 1 security.jail.set_hostname_allowed: 1 7.1-RELEASE ,PHP 5.2.8 (cli) Just looking for some pointers where to look really Thanks Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 12:47:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38801065673 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796538FC1C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:47:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id CAE8C16B4F9; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:46:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.98]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 50B0916B4AA; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:46:58 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:45:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:45:26 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Fbsd1 In-Reply-To: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: <20090301064520.Y95262@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <49AA4EAB.8080009@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: link to dos2unix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:47:05 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009, Fbsd1 wrote: > I get message ==oops you renamed me using unix2dos instead. Someone else has already replied that the binary only knows what to do by checking the name used to call it. The way to do what you want is to use an alias in your shell. In BASH this would be alias d2u='dos2unix' in .profile. Then run source .profile, or log out and log in. This may vary according to which shell you use. Consult the man for your shell. The reason this works is that the shell resolves the alias before it calls the command, so the command never knows what you really typed. A number of applications are like this. Aliasing is the right way to make shortcut names, rather than creating links. If you want the alias to work system-wide, edit the system confifuration file for the particular shell. If users use several different shell, you do have to add the alias to each distinct configuration file. -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 12:52:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D0D106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:52:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBBA28FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21CqW9e016317; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:52:33 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n21CqW9e016317 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1235911954; bh=8DcoS8aaiUnJSgCW5iND4dgRbUHtSpVUr9EBhJOVUp4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49AA850A.6020105@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2001=20Mar=202009=2012:52:26=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090218)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20"Aryeh=20M.=20Friedman"=20|CC:=20Jos=20Chrispijn=20,=20=0D=0A=20FreeBSD=20 Questions=20|Subject:=20Re:=20MySQL =20/=20php=20differ|References:=20<49AA6060.60604@webrz.net>=20<49 AA6302.2000408@gmail.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<49AA6302.2000408@gmail.c om>|X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed= 3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-si gnature"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig6CA22CC53E2365C489 B859FA"; b=us0uaTnfHZJRsHtcmcg0WcvvMXLQjP/7TcU3z1PESxvJwZUos/7YIY8isAYF6jWkB eouGMdLTr6SJV4Cb+9gwZVnZ87/93tEkouB7BNjNLDZFqJEyxEvQwUnNy+sVMBtCvM QjUHuRo5c/o9ZvchosBRq2q07ryNf2YAeEmryFbM= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49AA850A.6020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:52:26 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090218) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" References: <49AA6060.60604@webrz.net> <49AA6302.2000408@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49AA6302.2000408@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig6CA22CC53E2365C489B859FA" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:52:34 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9059/Sun Mar 1 09:05:32 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Jos Chrispijn , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: MySQL / php differ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:52:41 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig6CA22CC53E2365C489B859FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > Jos Chrispijn wrote: >> | FreeBSD 6.4-STABLE >> >> Just upgraded my MySQL server/client to v5.0.77 and php version to=20 >> php5-5.2.8 but something struck my eye when opening phpmyadmin, saying= : >> >> 'Your PHP MySQL library version 4.0.27 differs from your MySQL server = >> version 5.0.77. This may cause unpredictable behavior'. >> >> I obviously have my php MySQL library running wrong version. Can you=20 >> tell me How could I solve this matter in a quick way? >> >> thanks, >> Jos Chrispijn > portmaster -rf database/phpmyadmin Actually, you may only need to recompile databases/php5-mysql (possibly p= lus some=20 dependencies) and then restart apache. If your DB is on the same machine = as where=20 you're running phpMyAdmin, then you will have the 5.0.77 client libraries= already=20 installed and recompiling that one package should fix the observed proble= m. =20 If not, then you may need to update the mysql client libraries and anythi= ng that links to them on the phpMyAdmin machine. You can check what php5-mys= ql depends on like so: % pkg_info -rx php5-mysql Information for php5-mysql-5.2.8: Depends on: Dependency: expat-2.0.1 Dependency: openssl-0.9.8j_1 Dependency: perl-5.8.9_1 Dependency: pkg-config-0.23_1 Dependency: pcre-7.8 Dependency: mysql-client-5.0.77 Dependency: db46-4.6.21.3 Dependency: cyrus-sasl-2.1.22_2 Dependency: openldap-sasl-client-2.4.15 Dependency: libiconv-1.11_1 Dependency: libxml2-2.7.3 Dependency: apache-2.2.11_3 Dependency: php5-5.2.8 You won't get exactly the same list -- the important bit is the 'mysql-cl= ient' line. If you aren't using 5.0.77 client then: # portupgrade -o databases/mysql50-client -fr mysql-client-X.X.XX (fill in the version number of the client libraries you actually do have installed). You may also see output for php5-mysqli if you have that module installed: the portupgrade command above should fix both modules. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig6CA22CC53E2365C489B859FA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkmqhRAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyIXwCggFZ9mIu53V69aKyB7+NaOf2F FIMAoI3FvxRQwYVIq/87VHmNIBqwd1QW =ZkFC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig6CA22CC53E2365C489B859FA-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 12:55:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EF801065672 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:55:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from cf.bluelight.org.uk (bluelight.org.uk [80.229.144.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F988FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:55:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from terry@bluelight.org.uk) Received: from games-fd ([192.168.2.138]) by cf.bluelight.org.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LdlCP-000NZR-DZ for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:55:18 +0000 Message-ID: <49AA85CD.9030809@bluelight.org.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:55:41 +0000 From: Terry User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "cf.bluelight.org.uk", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: all sorted at some point I had over looked the group id which was wrong when I added the user I all ways fix these things after asking for help :( Thanks Terry [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Subject: re:Error getting UID/GID X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:55:24 -0000 all sorted at some point I had over looked the group id which was wrong when I added the user I all ways fix these things after asking for help :( Thanks Terry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 14:28:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDEC10656E4 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:28:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DACB8FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:28:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 09:28:07 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id POG63661; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 09:28:05 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18858.39797.40001.573615@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:28:05 -0500 To: Mel In-Reply-To: <200902282247.22739.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> References: <200902282247.22739.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lacalling Subject: Re: A problem about pkg_deinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:28:08 -0000 Mel writes: > Aside what Michael pointed out, ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves is much > easier for this task. It will only delete leaves, so if b is > still needed by X, it will not come up on the next iteration. And > you get to see the short description of the package, so may > decide to keep it anyway... I'd like to suggest a better solution is not auto-deleting in either direction. Even if the code were perfect - of which there is no evidence - the people are not, Unless you're (generic "you") planning to wipe out something huge (e.g. X11, or Gnome/KDE) and know _exactly_ what you're doing ... it's like hanging a "Kick me!" sign around your neck. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 14:32:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8312106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8858FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:32:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from valerio.daelli@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so710293fgb.35 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:32:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G+RRknY/MLapwau4mQOU/uIMYUe7w9w6+gqrtT7V/Hc=; b=FK/M1lSnEMujW9vw496h+09i4Ne3FSvDrOxF2/SYPwAl7K/kBFHNQesLD8Z4ZZfdIq wZxjbOzPAO1y7qdOHz9/1C5AYgNSjogwWHeO++kNGUEMiS6cSt0aJTaBk3iUMVvYW3sf 0cSkqtdexOMYz6D/c8RYjM3Hgz2kcUjpyJKxY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ddelh9EX22kBJXKnET2a6MKlzNlyWJZ3jlMrGHHedRJ3m4Z0xEdx3mlRPwMB/KdPT7 X7hMU+zYwUakUCqev9pEfUpNiFTSrl75MdCEt0j06VhjOFlUE+Si6YI6eMfBcp8EWi/E h6cS8XcRQLartkl9E0SCsBoMR5+9peDWIyysg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.95.20 with SMTP id s20mr2714699fgb.40.1235916219910; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:03:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:03:39 +0100 Message-ID: <27dbfc8c0903010603g32e1640fo49f8c55f652a28d9@mail.gmail.com> From: Valerio Daelli To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Port of perl 5.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:32:50 -0000 Hi is there anyone working on a port of perl5.10? I can only see ports of 5.8 and 5.6. I can make a port of 5.10, it seems to compile flawlessly on FreeBSD 7. Have a good day Valerio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 14:52:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B2C106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8521E8FC1D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 09:52:46 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id POG65669; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 09:52:01 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18858.41232.35075.455290@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:52:00 -0500 To: Valerio Daelli In-Reply-To: <27dbfc8c0903010603g32e1640fo49f8c55f652a28d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <27dbfc8c0903010603g32e1640fo49f8c55f652a28d9@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: User Questions Subject: Port of perl 5.10 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 14:52:47 -0000 Valerio Daelli writes: > is there anyone working on a port of perl5.10? > I can only see ports of 5.8 and 5.6. > I can make a port of 5.10, it seems to compile flawlessly on > FreeBSD 7. _Many_ ports depend on perl, and each must be tested (and if broken hopefully fixed) before such an ungrade happens. I believe the recent jump from 5.8.8 to 5.8.9 took weeks of behind-the-scenes work. Now imagine what moving to 5.10 will likely involve .... Experienced help is always appreciated, and I commend the 20090113 entry of ports/UPDATING as having a contact point. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 15:18:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F002C106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kkiller@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 830828FC13 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:18:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kkiller@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1629661fxm.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:18:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=niTv+GK334QvGEZS3yN60EdJ4Wm4Za2zUf5IOQPz58c=; b=XG95yY+hzkSfvS4Rzt5DrGVzsXXXLySUcELXaCqP4NKS5AY0qwKy70NUeDuCSKm9/d V5AqweVWhgPkjP+QgOVzpuVk5B8oLYThteLhLKYsp5QxqO6BPEPUo28zY1FxtBXFXsDi kPMQELsWaZa0rAULNIhW/sQqIwnsv1X/R/sW4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mJUgFZcDWrvmJIy2YVI1Ks16Uf6TD6f8K7iqjpC3+hGzpdVsw5QygmkbgiQGaSJlxi yA75uARABFSBGXqf02ykKK3oB+b+NnH8etlvE7SI4Lk+9X8Gtb8EU4c/JaSFw0fV1uGs SsWUegijZGM8DwefGDBgc+nH8b/1TLpAkY3u4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.246.1 with SMTP id y1mr2404949mur.116.1235919029315; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:50:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:50:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: Sniper To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:18:39 -0000 Hi! I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea, also programing in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for root user ? Regards, Jurif From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 15:27:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417591065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71818FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so818598fka.11 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:27:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UdTSePq0CvfzTu4YE8BCt2golcJDoURYV/EYsKzZnpM=; b=vlaMOIbyIb4eg6yfoILwwhQEVEZwkrBfFkbz6YGTY2CPbg/3LxiB09Vwg9BBOz1YTm QLnjNcSavFvHwhWILU3eDE153NxgdjX9GYAZUbKSToKIB0nqRJ9x//PL8gCaL4tNADPm 7XQy3fxg1qA68V5rCWy9qCvAcKwLc2n1CJN7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HMeGiFlpXI+yODqXXN3b03sD+3WUpJ5vNeuDtfhmUS8ZFxEoyv5KvV7niJPRZWn175 iIVnk3v3O4u4WEgLYu//9iP2P8lLoDOY6Kj/7DPADWHaPwWEcBxNW1SLXed6L+x9dTt/ eDhJlCqbHMkmX1pxsgPVTH0P0ijKPGBJYf2Ug= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.115.193 with SMTP id j1mr5089732faq.98.1235921235870; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 07:27:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903010727r2611c7b0xd91ee80c5064d154@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Sniper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:27:17 -0000 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Sniper wrote: > Hi! > > I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea, also programing > in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for > root user ? > /bin/csh -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 15:59:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBE91065672 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C948FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldo4r-0000cr-Rn; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:59:41 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n21FxfqO000705; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:59:41 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D9060FCA4DB; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:59:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:59:35 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Fbsd1 Message-ID: <20090301155935.GA15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Fbsd1 , FreeBSD Questions References: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:59:41 +0000 (GMT) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: bsdstats not working in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:59:47 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:20:21PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > > bsdstats is now in the base system. On what? > Have bsdstats_enable="YES" is rc.conf > Worked this way in 7.0. > What am I missing here??? $ pkg_info -D bsdstats* Still in a port (sysutils/bsdstats) on: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2 amd64 Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:04:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 258CB1065675 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:04:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.eu [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA2D8FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:04:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-63-16.51-151.net24.it [151.51.16.63]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21FTo4B025196 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:29:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n21FYGcD040347 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:34:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:30:36 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 212.31.247.179 Subject: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:04:32 -0000 Hello. Has anyone been using the above (either USB or SATA)? Do they work with FreeBSD? Care to share your experience? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:09:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBFAC106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from op@trekdanne.se) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC9E8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from op@trekdanne.se) Received: from c83-251-38-111.bredband.comhem.se ([83.251.38.111]:53591 helo=localhost) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldnz9-0001OQ-91 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:53:48 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:55:32 +0100 From: Daniel Lannstrom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.251.38.111 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Ldnz9-0001OQ-91. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Ldnz9-0001OQ-91 18f8cb7eca4b31801e3c820c80955115 Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:09:13 -0000 Why is this not a good idea? The only reason I can think of it that you want your root shell on the root hard drive. As many system use a separate partition for /usr and that bash installs to /usr/local/bin per default I can see how that can cause troubles. But are there any other reasons? Unstability in bash? Unexpected behaivor causing more harm in a root shell? On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Sniper wrote: > I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:11:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB34106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:11:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94048FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1611335bwz.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:11:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y4lRfhMb8xoUIIl/++JYZl4GeikTOR260UCU6qHsmk4=; b=JR5SAeUUVV39lS7S7Q+Z/jFPHI8V0Xi4NrqBXi6LeQRVQDqCNSMBp3Pp22g/4Z/ad/ DGI6QLUHKw4cqYGsi4uRptQ3rc4v6a/tjO2ICxIrzPfkEn24wZ7RsGgeun9btI2cRzb/ cF6FhDMSptLszsBa9KDR+y55c958GmTg48dvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H7BFu70vZ9CXnzyMt5DiGNTE8ALuch6IpI6ge1aOmrLyGIyEsECkTRkdqyV9ZRSBYk o+eW5P+D9v7doudwYHiNMYbv1OPp3PDZU/Ogmf8YpqgMkGmnHroS58yosOD0pq4+Dyh6 2QlIs93smlHv6+Vw3RBHavLrl3AUNn4LfRXjQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.116.77 with SMTP id l13mr5118209faq.106.1235923916150; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:11:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> References: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:11:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903010811o47b77f04y7976819e101b881b@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Daniel Lannstrom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:11:58 -0000 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Daniel Lannstrom wrote: > Why is this not a good idea? The only reason I can think of it that you > want your root shell on the root hard drive. As many system use a > separate partition for /usr and that bash installs to /usr/local/bin per > default I can see how that can cause troubles. But are there any other > reasons? Unstability in bash? Unexpected behaivor causing more harm in a > root shell? > This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:16:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9266106567E for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C3FC8FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdoLX-00034q-OM; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:16:55 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n21GGtEO025374; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:55 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4B29AFCA4DB; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:50 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Sniper Message-ID: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Sniper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:16:55 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:16:57 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Sniper wrote: > > Hi! > > I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea, also programing > in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for > root user ? > I changed my root shell to pdksh with no ill-effects. I just copied it from /usr/local/bin to /bin and added it to /etc/shells. Then vipw. pdksh is statically linked and I don't know if bash is. If it's not you wont be able to use it in single user mode but you can always use /bin/sh instead. Another option is to use the toor account rather than messing around with root. I think programming with csh is deprecated nowadays - a shell guru could tell you if that's true. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:25:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 316BD106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B558FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21GPaES019232; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:25:37 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n21GPaES019232 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1235924737; bh=INcFlQayecj9sUkjUOcZzvbd/y9JyWmHkOlcp1j1nQA=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49AAB6FA.3030204@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20S un,=2001=20Mar=202009=2016:25:30=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman= 20|Organization:=20Infracaninophi le|User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090218)|MIME-Vers ion:=201.0|To:=20Sniper=20,=20freebsd-questions @freebsd.org|Subject:=20Re:=20Root=20shell|References:=20=20<2009030116 1650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>|In-Reply-To:=20<20090301 161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk>|X-Enigmail-Version:=20 0.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=20micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3 B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature"=3B=0D=0A=20bounda ry=3D"------------enig48AF288AB55771C0656DC8DD"; b=P4a+wMmGQimG0Z9vDd2ZC6npHCdQeJ0tejKr3RFOd5qwEuetbYrCfZLUfKEqI3FkU RZF3paoIeUA9zSoXvoFRmHGcAkNLQYHwOi9HzXI1ZxpsVkOOcIpli4J14svSVbZuj7 usNtP9CRZRK16IPunRsX51kGePzd/KLKFiv0kjMg= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49AAB6FA.3030204@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:25:30 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090218) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sniper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig48AF288AB55771C0656DC8DD" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:25:37 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9059/Sun Mar 1 09:05:32 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:25:59 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig48AF288AB55771C0656DC8DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank Shute wrote: =20 > I think programming with csh is deprecated nowadays - a shell guru > could tell you if that's true. Sure csh is deprecated for programming, and has been for a long time[*]. But this is not about shell programming. It's about what interactive she= ll root should have. That's a very different thing, and [t]csh is just fine for interactive use. Cheers, Matthew [*] Anyone with any sense will write posix compliant scripts using /bin/s= h for maximum portability. --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig48AF288AB55771C0656DC8DD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkmqtwAACgkQ8Mjk52CukIyDWACdFmA/ji65iec9T5xwYj2TwJ0x GjQAoIbO6ltEqBpvzZFbpj5S1fTBVil7 =V6l5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig48AF288AB55771C0656DC8DD-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:42:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426211065679 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:42:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from op@trekdanne.se) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33BA8FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:42:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from op@trekdanne.se) Received: from c83-251-38-111.bredband.comhem.se ([83.251.38.111]:56132 helo=localhost) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldojx-0001nA-4J for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:42:09 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:43:55 +0100 From: Daniel Lannstrom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301164355.GA29675@haruhi> References: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> <4ad871310903010811o47b77f04y7976819e101b881b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903010811o47b77f04y7976819e101b881b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.251.38.111 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Ldojx-0001nA-4J. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1Ldojx-0001nA-4J 8a86c2b397acabb2f0f4e827f966daa7 Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:42:14 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT Yes that's exactly what I meant. Is there any other reason except for that? As I see it that problem can easily be solved by copying bash to the root file system. Also many systems today have the root and /usr on the same file system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 16:47:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 800CD106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:47:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2E88FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1618801bwz.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:47:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=djrDtmVciidGwuUu6VvZDt+zG/rQyV6d9Kir5A3L7yc=; b=THFdddQ8F9yVTrNs1wIRTCu1uSFJ71QU/4uJ9YMZbUJ11AoTpJXJDAHYvdscXistnR ZUt0SUjnn8U3DT6lhcvXR5y1RmWQKYCjIeaVrRcsLkIyYJcHkcbJTH0Hxm6r+CVY2u+7 ebVNK4BQfIvl0vSXydz3ivt/MWPq4VwUtcDx4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DPk/1bN/PLVQxNX4LDvUPaQ1ZIETDAjFbt3g/Ugrgaxb1EcKOHIwHQgH8UsQbbYDAP QJg1bleKWhydpcO5COg8with0VCSXGpANCdiZ7AICz6PfjBAidpjiRBpD5e+BtHBlCcR l6BnNTqJh3yw7e1dg7zi1CNVvNaqlhlO82e6k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.9 with SMTP id y9mr5166914fap.61.1235926064832; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:47:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090301164355.GA29675@haruhi> References: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> <4ad871310903010811o47b77f04y7976819e101b881b@mail.gmail.com> <20090301164355.GA29675@haruhi> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:47:44 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903010847w7542b038w6f7787bb231d0bef@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Daniel Lannstrom Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:47:46 -0000 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel Lannstrom wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: >> This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT > > Yes that's exactly what I meant. Is there any other reason except for > that? As I see it that problem can easily be solved by copying bash to > the root file system. Also many systems today have the root and /usr > on the same file system. You'd have to also copy more than just the binary file. It's more complex than that, and generally is a Bad Idea(tm). -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 17:20:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96231065687 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@slohall.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984468FC1A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@slohall.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so1965514wfd.7 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.144.16 with SMTP id r16mr2481344wfd.349.1235926204149; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from icarus.slohall.com (24-205-231-169.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com [24.205.231.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm15942887rvb.1.2009.03.01.08.50.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:50:48 -0800 From: James To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090301085048.2a5d6f3d.james@slohall.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: freebsd-update patch not being applied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:20:13 -0000 For some reason when i type uname -a on my desktop, which is running 7.1, all I see is this: $ uname -a FreeBSD me 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 08:58:24 UTC 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 But if i run freebsd-update fetch i get this $ sudo freebsd-update fetch Password: Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.1-RELEASE-p3. Everytime the application has said there are new updates i installed them with `freebsd-update install`, and eventually i got around to restarting, but when I log back in and type `uname -a` I get the same message as above: `7.1-RELEASE #0` Now on a seperate system running 7.0 I have a similar problem where uname -a always reports `7.0-RELEASE-p7 #0` even though freebsd-update reports Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. No updates needed to update system to 7.0-RELEASE-p10. Now I'm new to the BSD world, but i do have a fair amount of experience with Linux. What I am trying to figure out here, is why uname -a reports a different patch number than it should. Thanks James -- James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 17:35:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2511106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grimjow.espada@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.226]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89138FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:35:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grimjow.espada@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2087674rvb.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=mHMhEpbBa9vHPM6KCe6H3iVuJCeRd2V//zKP1Ujbxoo=; b=rV+TdmOB4oAZh6LQR+O5k4w0i4oz450F2qWJYQJ8tO+bQM6/HH6BAdR/JopuM/6rGH 3EbSaYnjxk2JhHr6LJheq+0zmCMQrAoVkFdmlRCIm7/yHkWLOH+8VHQlvgrc67DPyy8I YUO87O4n74tMfOFW7ynVoXf3k6HHkWEVNaJ9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pKvfWoRzvRrgqboxwo2tZw3b2jnL8gIG8hkdUMaF63ReM9fLTs/IG6baZ2Iix7N8t8 PFJ6+7CRVxc/uKrZQH+NZA8q6n1dJFt+4nWPNiXfcViKbyLyTf3n/7isdgciyQzgkzEP QooYyvT0yODuSmkF1xycItP69NnOaRj17UIS4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.195.19 with SMTP id s19mr2239068waf.10.1235928927382; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:35:27 +0800 Message-ID: <9ef7e7380903010935i30c5dbd0g93eb8566cffaaa4@mail.gmail.com> From: GrimJow Espada To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: is there a microsoft one note counterpart for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:35:28 -0000 is there a microsoft one note counterpart for freebsd? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 17:46:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5EE1065678 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59C48FC20 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danielby@slightlystrange.org) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20090301174631.JWYY2989.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:31 +0000 Received: from catflap.slightlystrange.org ([82.21.101.171]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.2.02.00.01 201-2161-120-102-20060912) with ESMTP id <20090301174631.PYQK21638.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@catflap.slightlystrange.org> for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:31 +0000 Received: by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix, from userid 106) id 28E9E66E3; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from torus.slightlystrange.org (torus.slightlystrange.org [10.1.3.50]) by catflap.slightlystrange.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 688C1613B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: by torus.slightlystrange.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:27 +0000 From: "Daniel Bye" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:27 +0000 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301174626.GA1643@torus.slightlystrange.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090301085048.2a5d6f3d.james@slohall.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090301085048.2a5d6f3d.james@slohall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-PGP-Fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE i386 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=qK7LnxbYhQYA:10 a=ehNlctqhnw0A:10 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=OanrbVeNVYQLgoc8DqAA:9 a=ehb76dh2zZsRnPjaohgRU0YVYvwA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 a=-aUmRFDV-aEJ5CoO:21 a=JJ5SVG6jw3wukBeH:21 a=j5n6qnI6rP7Y34MobewA:9 a=2rDsFyivzHoZFcuqMyAnTfH90fkA:4 a=rPt6xJ-oxjAA:10 Subject: Re: freebsd-update patch not being applied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Bye List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:46:33 -0000 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 08:50:48AM -0800, James wrote: > For some reason when i type uname -a on my desktop, which is running 7.1,= all I see is this: >=20 > $ uname -a > FreeBSD me 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 08:58:24 UTC 2= 009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >=20 > But if i run freebsd-update fetch i get this >=20 > $ sudo freebsd-update fetch > Password: > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... = done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. >=20 > No updates needed to update system to 7.1-RELEASE-p3. >=20 > Everytime the application has said there are new updates i installed them= with `freebsd-update install`, > and eventually i got around to restarting, but when I log back in and typ= e `uname -a` I get the same message > as above: `7.1-RELEASE #0` >=20 > Now on a seperate system running 7.0 I have a similar problem where uname= -a always reports `7.0-RELEASE-p7 #0` > even though freebsd-update reports > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... = done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. >=20 > No updates needed to update system to 7.0-RELEASE-p10. >=20 > Now I'm new to the BSD world, but i do have a fair amount of experience w= ith Linux. What I am trying to figure > out here, is why uname -a reports a different patch number than it should. This is the normal behaviour for freebsd-update. The patch level number will only bump if an update affects the kernel. The most recent updates for 7.1 didn't touch the kernel, so you still see the previous (somewhat confusing) version number. However, if the next update requires that the kernel be replaced, then you'll see the patch level number increase. Hope this makes sense... Dan --=20 Daniel Bye _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmqyfIACgkQixf5fBYiFmp70wCdGoYGiYNd9IRSmyCkVSOGcxei 7SMAn07uBhl9yXYFFK9tjj/cYJ/OSkYE =OeTU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 17:52:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518D0106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@slohall.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D26E8FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:52:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james@slohall.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2093023rvb.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.20.6 with SMTP id x6mr2465982rvi.159.1235929927699; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from icarus.slohall.com (24-205-231-169.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com [24.205.231.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm5195629rvf.1.2009.03.01.09.52.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:52:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 09:52:51 -0800 From: James To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090301095251.52c4de64.james@slohall.com> In-Reply-To: <20090301174626.GA1643@torus.slightlystrange.org> References: <20090301085048.2a5d6f3d.james@slohall.com> <20090301174626.GA1643@torus.slightlystrange.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; amd64-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Daniel Bye Subject: Re: freebsd-update patch not being applied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:52:08 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:46:27 +0000 "Daniel Bye" wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 08:50:48AM -0800, James wrote: > > For some reason when i type uname -a on my desktop, which is running 7.1, all I see is this: > > > > $ uname -a > > FreeBSD me 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 08:58:24 UTC 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > > > But if i run freebsd-update fetch i get this > > > > $ sudo freebsd-update fetch > > Password: > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. > > Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. > > Fetching metadata index... done. > > Inspecting system... done. > > Preparing to download files... done. > > > > No updates needed to update system to 7.1-RELEASE-p3. > > > > Everytime the application has said there are new updates i installed them with `freebsd-update install`, > > and eventually i got around to restarting, but when I log back in and type `uname -a` I get the same message > > as above: `7.1-RELEASE #0` > > > > Now on a seperate system running 7.0 I have a similar problem where uname -a always reports `7.0-RELEASE-p7 #0` > > even though freebsd-update reports > > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. > > Fetching metadata signature for 7.0-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. > > Fetching metadata index... done. > > Inspecting system... done. > > Preparing to download files... done. > > > > No updates needed to update system to 7.0-RELEASE-p10. > > > > Now I'm new to the BSD world, but i do have a fair amount of experience with Linux. What I am trying to figure > > out here, is why uname -a reports a different patch number than it should. > > This is the normal behaviour for freebsd-update. The patch level number will > only bump if an update affects the kernel. The most recent updates for 7.1 > didn't touch the kernel, so you still see the previous (somewhat confusing) > version number. However, if the next update requires that the kernel be > replaced, then you'll see the patch level number increase. > > Hope this makes sense... > > Dan > > -- > Daniel Bye > _ > ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > - against HTML, vCards and X > - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ > Makes perfect sense, thanks for replying, i appreciate the help James -- James From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:14:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725331065686 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:14:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: from smtp.mel.people.net.au (smtp.mel.people.net.au [218.214.17.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C45538FC0A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mail@ozzmosis.com) Received: (qmail 5898 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2009 17:47:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO blizzard.dnsalias.org) (218.215.137.221) by smtp.mel.people.net.au with SMTP; 1 Mar 2009 17:47:35 -0000 Received: by blizzard.dnsalias.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EE982171A0; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:47:38 +1100 (EST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:47:38 +1100 From: andrew clarke To: James Message-ID: <20090301174738.GA93504@ozzmosis.com> References: <20090301085048.2a5d6f3d.james@slohall.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090301085048.2a5d6f3d.james@slohall.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-update patch not being applied X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:14:22 -0000 On Sun 2009-03-01 08:50:48 UTC-0800, James (james@slohall.com) wrote: > For some reason when i type uname -a on my desktop, which is running 7.1, all I see is this: > > $ uname -a > FreeBSD me 7.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 08:58:24 UTC 2009 root@driscoll.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > But if i run freebsd-update fetch i get this > > $ sudo freebsd-update fetch > Password: > Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 2 mirrors found. > Fetching metadata signature for 7.1-RELEASE from update2.FreeBSD.org... done. > Fetching metadata index... done. > Inspecting system... done. > Preparing to download files... done. > > No updates needed to update system to 7.1-RELEASE-p3. > > Everytime the application has said there are new updates i installed them with `freebsd-update install`, > and eventually i got around to restarting, but when I log back in and type `uname -a` I get the same message > as above: `7.1-RELEASE #0` This is (probably) normal. uname -a shows the kernel version, however often freebsd-update will patch other (non-kernel) parts of the base system, leaving the kernel alone. eg. the recent bug involving telnetd on 7.x systems only required patching the telnetd binary. AFAIK, each time a patch is required, /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh is updated. $ sudo freebsd-update fetch No updates needed to update system to 6.4-RELEASE-p3. $ uname -a FreeBSD blizzard.phoenix 6.4-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p1 #0: Sun Dec 21 07:56:41 UTC 2008 root@i386-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 $ grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 TYPE="FreeBSD" REVISION="6.4" BRANCH="RELEASE-p3" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:17:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9BB51065677 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from fmmailgate02.web.de (fmmailgate02.web.de [217.72.192.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB4C48FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:17:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ilikefbsd@web.de) Received: from smtp07.web.de (fmsmtp07.dlan.cinetic.de [172.20.5.215]) by fmmailgate02.web.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74089FB2FD7E for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:17:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [85.178.40.181] (helo=[192.168.1.118]) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (WEB.DE 4.110 #277) id 1LdqET-0001yK-00 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:17:45 +0100 Message-ID: <49AAD148.3040805@web.de> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:17:44 +0100 From: Marco User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090110) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Sender: ilikefbsd@web.de X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IAHuFohIGCCJBn7oy0FC49KdB4vFQle8FU4fk IVLTysbApIuDMG/3wjrd+562+GUKuzf9C9bTr7H7IZ/stBkUZC vyI6ZNfFQ= Subject: badblocks on sata drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:17:47 -0000 hej list, during dd tests i encounter hardware problems with my harddisk. is there a way to mark parts of the hdd as "bad" so those are not used anymore? best regards, marco From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:23:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548AA106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:23:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E068FC08 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:23:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21INfqZ043140; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:23:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21INeFw043137; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:23:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:23:40 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Marco In-Reply-To: <49AAD148.3040805@web.de> Message-ID: References: <49AAD148.3040805@web.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: badblocks on sata drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:23:56 -0000 > > during dd tests i encounter hardware problems with my harddisk. is there > a way to mark parts of the hdd as "bad" so those are not used anymore? not much. you may label it the way it will skip that part. anyway - sata/IDE drives has in-hardware bad block remapping. if you see bad blocks there is already out of space for remapping. OR - just something was recorded badly some time ago. clear whole drive with zeros and then retest. there is high change problem will go out. if not - don't use that drive for anything valuable at all From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:25:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C071065736 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:25:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC47C8FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:24:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21IOrjo043156; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:24:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21IOr6l043153; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:24:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:24:53 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: GrimJow Espada In-Reply-To: <9ef7e7380903010935i30c5dbd0g93eb8566cffaaa4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <9ef7e7380903010935i30c5dbd0g93eb8566cffaaa4@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is there a microsoft one note counterpart for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:25:01 -0000 no idea what's microsoft one note (i don't use their products), but - as usual - try to find unix program(s) that will accomplish your task, not equivalents. or try wine From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2263510657A5 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:25:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3C78FC0C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21IPSQk043167; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:25:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21IPSBp043164; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:25:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:25:28 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Sniper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:25:36 -0000 > I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea from whom? use what you like the most. >, also programing > in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for > root user ? anything you like. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:26:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E35210658D4 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:26:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2B8FC29 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:26:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21IQVo7043178; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:26:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21IQVVF043175; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:26:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:26:31 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Daniel Lannstrom In-Reply-To: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> Message-ID: References: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:26:40 -0000 > Why is this not a good idea? The only reason I can think of it that you > want your root shell on the root hard drive. As many system use a > separate partition for /usr and that bash installs to /usr/local/bin per yes it may be a reason, but there is always /rescue directory. and - at least me - prefer to have as little partition as possible to not make things complicated. most cases swap+/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:27:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01224106575D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from op@trekdanne.se) Received: from ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.212]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50B28FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from op@trekdanne.se) Received: from c83-251-38-111.bredband.comhem.se ([83.251.38.111]:53346 helo=localhost) by ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LdqNM-0007yv-4B for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:26:56 +0100 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:28:44 +0100 From: Daniel Lannstrom To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301182844.GA30055@haruhi> References: <49AAD148.3040805@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AAD148.3040805@web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.251.38.111 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1LdqNM-0007yv-4B. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp01.sth.basefarm.net 1LdqNM-0007yv-4B 0ad5358b6f3db5057c2e67984999f50c Subject: Re: badblocks on sata drive X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:23 -0000 If a modern hard drive begins to let bad blocks through it's internal block relocation mechanics have failed. I recommend to take backup on everthing on that disk because this is usually a sign that the disk will die shortly. On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:17:44PM +0100, Marco wrote: > hej list, > > during dd tests i encounter hardware problems with my harddisk. is there > a way to mark parts of the hdd as "bad" so those are not used anymore? > > best regards, > marco > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:27:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA1910657F6 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4CF8FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21IRhGF043194; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:27:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21IRhgT043191; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:27:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:27:43 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> Message-ID: References: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:27:54 -0000 > Hello. > Has anyone been using the above (either USB or SATA)? > Do they work with FreeBSD? i don't see a reason it should not. anyway - it's cardridges are more expensive than ordinary hard disks - doesn't make sense. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:37:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA5B106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:37:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1B58FC21 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d21so261850nfb.33 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:37:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=caslLx2r5SwnFzdrtmoQe0cfTncxH7mg+dj7MaiQjW8=; b=Uox95wrVW2YPLjRyCIgLvVXkruFIY/sU6x4/oe9tjgfcSgVcojxMoALbXCfX9gFOlE Y2v1hHi8VsqO8errznsuvn8yea1yKfQpqkzsQ9Hdb1UighooMqXiTKfOBpMh1Z2tw63w PjGxAl9u9HOXLGiHpzTXJ9fCEvelhVemoNBh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vOYuXTiXjfuR4CRCQUc87D4s/Sbix9mN2cHo1FeADXrRyD0oddkwGz5iwNdS7W2B53 gu48yEywmGTAc9hk9Iw/6l6s9b/6VhHASG0K51EyhnImTr17WoXsJ7FynpbXLTjpz1yJ C9T6OtIX8gVMOS1TAXwYSm4f6aTfku0KTxaX8= Received: by 10.210.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr2709090ebb.23.1235932649728; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q9sm15256897gve.3.2009.03.01.10.37.27 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:37:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:37:15 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301183715.5b1571db@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:37:31 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:50 +0000 Frank Shute wrote: > pdksh is statically linked and I don't know if bash is. It's a build option. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:40:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370101065673 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:40:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0331D8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:40:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gfritz@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so1023361wah.27 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:40:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=2i1wTAPK7MhEz7BbW3gsXnkqEWVqbrS9GJxXYCQ0VFc=; b=dNQzhzw86MLMm9UeLNmHbZ3fJmwGD888s5VOp3zbHYOyWkGXs3edxpzihA55Tvaht2 Y9Ers9VwjknWDGoQPSAuPmg2UTiTzUs5ZUkLpBsebg9WhO3M07xNbUTiycJoL6vejVSy YIneAzRX79DDrh1rBYpdK9xAgluFinhO89J1s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=r0MYf3amphDN5J2D98MX9p50oUWcKAEQKFd5EZQVaSVu/tdko7WYGhc8nxI9bS88L3 AMNfnH/2tHpymL46pVQKy27dHdTbtsPB0Mo6qpA77XADa3EKksUD8L88ev3Alk5x5lyh puJUDZU4h7FYwFn5pUZooQP0K+R8bjLEav+Gg= Received: by 10.115.75.14 with SMTP id c14mr2251180wal.86.1235932818591; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dev.null (181-175-174-206.cust.wirelessbeehive.com [206.174.175.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a8sm13183189poa.19.2009.03.01.10.40.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by dev.null (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8084A15B7; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:40:16 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:40:16 -0700 From: Geoff Fritz To: Sniper , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301184016.GA61100@dev.null> References: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:40:20 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 04:16:50PM +0000, Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Sniper wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea, also programing > > in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for > > root user ? > > > > I changed my root shell to pdksh with no ill-effects. I just copied it > from /usr/local/bin to /bin and added it to /etc/shells. Then vipw. > > pdksh is statically linked and I don't know if bash is. If it's not > you wont be able to use it in single user mode but you can always use > /bin/sh instead. I, too, like pdksh for my root accounts. If I have a system where /usr/local does not share the / device, I will copy it over. There's the WITH_STATIC_BASH knob to make bash a static binary, as well. As noted by someone in the archives, ksh-alikes have issues allocating a tty when used in a jail accessed via jexec, so beware of that. As system shell scripts have their correctly defined #! shell (/bin/sh), it really doesn't matter what you use for an interactive shell so long as you trust the source distribution of that shell (which should be an obvious conclusion, since the FreeBSD team is oly responsible for those shells that come packaged with the base OS). Purists will note that root's choice of shell is of no consequence since nobody should be using the root account for any serious long-term interactive use in the first place. Except for environments where there's an assumed lack of trust in the admins (use sudo), delegation of root-like powers to lesser admins (use sudo), or strict audit/logging requirements (use sudosh or more serious auditing mechanisms), I personally feel that hobbling an admin with a non-root account is of dubious value. In any case, there's no functional reason to not use the shell of your choice. However, individuals or organizations will stronly differ in their admin philosophy. -- Geoff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:43:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B289F1065674 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dc@dcoder.net) Received: from ns2.dcoder.net (207-126-122-62.ip.openhosting.com [207.126.122.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6148FC1C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:43:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dc@dcoder.net) Received: by ns2.dcoder.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id B9C9A13301E7; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:17:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:17:08 -0500 From: dacoder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301181708.GF7007@mail2.dcoder.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: ipfilter, ipnat, and if driver ath: what's just changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:43:27 -0000 updating my system friday from the feb 7 version of 7.1 to the latest broke tcp and udp (but *not* icmp) over ipnat, which had worked forever with my current ipfilter rules and ipnat mapping rules, which are pretty simple. what has changed? /etc/ipnat.rules: map age0 10.0.0.0/24 -> /32 @ the top of /etc/ipf.rules: pass out quick on age0 proto tcp/udp from any to any keep state keep frags pass out quick on age0 proto icmp from any to any keep state keep frags that used to work. now it doesn't, witness ipmon: 01/03/2009 13:07:46.274707 age0 @0:28 b 74.125.93.102,80 -> 10.0.0.253,2914 PR tcp len 20 48 -AS IN NAT what's changed? ipf? ipnat? age? am i using an obsolete & therefore unworkable set of ipfilter rules? icmp still works, btw. i'd be grateful for any help. thx. david coder network engineer emeritus ntt/verio From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 18:54:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E891065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD518FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n21IpWJG052475; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:51:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n21IpWNM052474; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:51:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:51:32 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Sniper Message-ID: <20090301185131.GA52432@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:54:26 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Sniper wrote: > Hi! > > I heard that changing root shell to bash is not good idea, also programing > in any C shell not applicable. So which shell is the most appropriate for > root user ? You can get your tail in a crack if you boot to single user or another file system like /usr is not available. /bin/csh (which on FreeBSD is the same as tcsh) is always available and a few things are written so they expect it. So, leave root alone. If you must lower yourself to bash, make another account and set its shell to bash. You can even make an alternate root and make it bash if you really must work in root. USe vipw and copy the toor line in the passwd file and change the name to something you like and the shell to bash and the home directory to /root/whatever. Then set the password for this account As root do: passwd whatever follow prompts. You must put the id name on the passwd command or it will change root instead. I am not necessarily recommending all this, but it is better tham changing the actual root account's shell. ////jerry > > > Regards, > > Jurif > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:00:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BF61065673 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:00:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05CF8FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:00:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d21so262596nfb.33 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:00:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1KsTarqqydUNuOdKA7KsgjI98kZVF5LRKdPMUlICFmU=; b=u09HfCBt4V0kUUTj3563Cx/laaGDsvnq7nfsLvxYRR7Kt4a1/Yrm3u1TWhn8YBoEiB bE6+DdLTDq/ygAlHI0P6gTYdUxWnHNDc5eS980yTHW5KOghpQffWjfBCdqVq5+GpCdtr SkyuOWZCXOsSQkSEkpSpT82uzjlQXFz/6c3io= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZtUj0zQkwSU1udK5dadPto8EKHIykfH/8Bx7d6UMcE1r35q1lV5BDEBlxkIMgkmtt6 qFH7mYB2FEM9837iRnu4yTF8lyd6U2hO8dbhhW4NWffcEKbJml1nvYNLPoUBJgRgedUL aNvQIjYs2wfYRjIKpDi/t+pqi/X4zOPU2vXH0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr1367063ebc.20.1235934031766; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:00:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49AA7BBE.4010201@bah.homeip.net> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> <49AA7BBE.4010201@bah.homeip.net> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:00:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Bernt Hansson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:00:34 -0000 2009/3/1 Bernt Hansson : > > Charles Oppermann skrev: >>>> That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply >>>> open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the >>>> EULA. >>> Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. >> > > http://www.google.se/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=sv&q=%22Negativ+avtalsbindning%22&meta=&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Ordering software then breaking the seal on a software packaging is not a negative contract agreement. The customer ordering the product requested the contract. How is this even relevant? -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:07:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C712106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:07:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07918FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:07:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d21so262825nfb.33 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:07:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UxuAT9A0phaNnF+vFIFS8TyI2HhCeuJWssmdpkElEz0=; b=TUuE3cHBL3s/FPSxGinttWmwph+MhPpKiGB3Vs30S0cdZdgphRzY2vjtRCTaae/39C NaKfOMuI29JuR/nUHvLyEO56OC6zbAWNHWGSpB1KRPBnyfjWL0s4xZL3prNdtc+D5kvs 8m7tqHvOCrorbot90bdtPJGiOuOfJ/nyhWMwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=f9pbo0lLjFaUxblgkem+iQjW1dsJIrTs60hCbeYk+K39Vlg6KjuFX4teYS9JmlFtzx gPKC954/aHTr669ECFVMKKpPFDTqAen71QRSwKItZBzsvUqKM93a1dg5mfUCeIvzyeO4 9iODiyXIRLnLFxbnoTLaTWcsY+CHxrD7KObBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.34.19 with SMTP id h19mr2741346ebh.89.1235934440709; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:07:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9ef7e7380903010935i30c5dbd0g93eb8566cffaaa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:07:20 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: is there a microsoft one note counterpart for freebsd? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:07:22 -0000 2009/3/1 Wojciech Puchar : > no idea what's microsoft one note (i don't use their products), but - as > usual - try to find unix program(s) that will accomplish your task, not > equivalents. > > or try wine > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_notetaking_software At a glance, Jarnal looks useful... Chris -- R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:21:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90704106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:21:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318578FC1B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd5ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.164]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 12:21:56 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=n5v6Yh_2LbXM5jiN3QEA:9 a=jbHOrDkXuNtaiFfWBaGrUMCp5GIA:4 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd5ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 12:21:56 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED5917060 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:21:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:21:54 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301112154.4b4af511@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <20090301185131.GA52432@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090301185131.GA52432@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:21:57 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:51:32 -0500 Jerry McAllister wrote: > I am not necessarily recommending all this, but it is better tham > changing the actual root account's shell. > besides, you don't really need to, do you? i just log in with su -m and get to use my own account's aliases etc, but as root. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:24:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6881065766 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dc@dcoder.net) Received: from ns2.dcoder.net (207-126-122-62.ip.openhosting.com [207.126.122.62]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69DB38FC1F for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:24:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dc@dcoder.net) Received: by ns2.dcoder.net (Postfix, from userid 500) id E2FCF1330198; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:24:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:24:07 -0500 From: dacoder To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090301192407.GG7007@mail2.dcoder.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090301181708.GF7007@mail2.dcoder.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090301181708.GF7007@mail2.dcoder.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: ipfilter, ipnat, and if driver ath [should have been age]: what's just changed? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:24:09 -0000 +++ dacoder [01/03/09 13:17 -0500]: >updating my system friday from the feb 7 version of 7.1 to the latest broke >tcp and udp (but *not* icmp) over ipnat, which had worked forever with my >current ipfilter rules and ipnat mapping rules, which are pretty simple. >what has changed? > >/etc/ipnat.rules: > > map age0 10.0.0.0/24 -> /32 > >@ the top of /etc/ipf.rules: > > pass out quick on age0 proto tcp/udp from any to any keep state keep > frags > pass out quick on age0 proto icmp from any to any keep state keep > frags > >that used to work. now it doesn't, witness ipmon: > >01/03/2009 13:07:46.274707 age0 @0:28 b 74.125.93.102,80 -> 10.0.0.253,2914 >PR tcp len 20 48 -AS IN NAT > >what's changed? ipf? ipnat? age? am i using an obsolete & therefore >unworkable set of ipfilter rules? icmp still works, btw. > >i'd be grateful for any help. > >thx. > >david coder >network engineer emeritus >ntt/verio > >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" i meant, of course, age, not ath in my subject line. sorry for the confusion. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:26:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ABD106568E for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:26:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp125.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp125.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0FF698FC20 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:26:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 82010 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2009 18:59:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=xs9fHtySCwLovX3B/frTcfsAUQOdIioHrdCCJp6d00l97BtJBCkCToW79jnhimfS8BhmRBwhI5VseL76R++WlX0OLQTOMTuT3yZ8v8YDvMCgHhL2a8GPUcrqily41rkjOvFM7n7uoskbBTFlAETg4dalRZjQB6KAxXrvubwPAWM= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@99.224.60.234 with login) by smtp125.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Mar 2009 18:59:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 9nUcGTIVM1lkV6zCZHAw_8W43VwuWRi_VirawAPRQ1S2_oZqqIESrxqy8qizPuDGMw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Tamouh Hakmi" To: "'FreeBSD'" Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:59:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acman9wH0HWOhUPQSKigdUmCYTODaw== Subject: ata-raid.c patch for ICH7 RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:26:09 -0000 Hi, Has anyone had experience applying this patch to their FreeBSD 6.x = setup? http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(I= CH7)-td16179257.html I've couple of machines using ICH8/ICH9 which seem to exhibit the same = problems and would be interested in applying the patch. But want to = avoid any complications that may result from it. Any feedback is appreciated, do you know if FBSD 6.4 has the patch = already implemented? Thanks, Tamouh Hakmi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:45:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC699106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.113]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 940BC8FC1D for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:45:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 92928 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2009 19:45:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235936709; bh=63gr1vMEb8SrFMfpqdCFEj2Wyg6q3nJiFPfTgfzaLk8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cVXGnnpeoJG5rBE53QAfpnreuQ2biGYTK7scIIxWTSembzCiTqRuHTa5A7ATEd3DDDMS5+b3zPnLKYVZHj/gCP0xrdtsCnoS6Il8BuKNIjTajJRKMmJOWge0b8tEGPTMh39Lbb7HwqbMp8X7hqIg2mTxlAF0EFUnRu5dhID1mQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=en2yISlaVWTKDdb0GDwKDkp0M+DcemKC9YA0fNHpJY+3hNQCa+mJa1ZIEk0C9fuZZtCvHukDX7ieRXWKhxcjw87Cmh9vLyfHTfjw05q4J0qM1xwJ83ibyqa1adoLCAimgRse7ntYTxjDncUXwBgcJ1PUOALw6pgaFaMnluKq6rI=; Message-ID: <179425.90889.qm@web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: z4WbtVwVM1mFRkhtkQJutCWB9.9zYhc0LPRFWWqn0Jmsca4RIe5_HMBsWOVKQuA6kpZsSFGlalNlClNSyf4sJzv5MvNhH9DwszhCiHh_Z8MMZQT9O4C76rfRY8WDiwho4Yl.C5geLGlYz39C30UBNTRVnwOZhC23GFgc8WZUFJFl8qSEazoNR_3DFfDOpQKkHaZ_zNoX6JaclExP7lHpxsLP89GJ89CjTDs.u9q9iwymFz0LIKHq Received: from [98.169.13.4] by web52110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:45:09 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:45:09 -0800 (PST) From: gahn To: glyn@millingtons.org In-Reply-To: <86sklxn7w4.fsf@nowhere.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: xi? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:45:11 -0000 Thanks. --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Glyn Millington wrote: > From: Glyn Millington > Subject: Re: xi? > To: ipfreak@yahoo.com > Cc: "freebsd general questions" > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 9:12 PM > gahn writes: > > > Hi all: > > > > I am rebuilding those ports and run into some > problems. one of those > > is: > > > > checking for XINPUT... configure: error: Package > requirements (x11 xext > > xi >= 1.2 inputproto >= 1.5) were not met: > > > > Requested 'xi >= 1.2' but version of Xi is > 1.1.3 > > > > searching for a while and can't find this > "xi". how could I upgrade > > this "xi"? > > /usr/ports/X11/libXi would be my guess :-) > > > You may need to update your ports tree. > > > atb > > Glyn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:55:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6BE10657BE for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:55:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.114]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CB858FC18 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:55:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 47734 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2009 19:55:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235937357; bh=YxRq6qvL+EqFJop4OkifgTfzTuxLNNIUs+ccmopbk40=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=omp1QgZic7TwaaMWTluxJ83s7gYmfAt3d9H2ij+/nX896kPk16q6fjTbb080VRTg+1P5ZnnDkfv8Yicu7xvgyw+Wcbv2SfY6EgA6Wo6DirDIJ6FDvTUOLehfyVAx51wkV+bffuSn3MUiGmYfLm/wgMPwx1P4WhTUL5+zPE5/pGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xehj1kEH6822iVISTMUk1KBtu789agvIdeXZteRCf2ScJUWQRwVVXWX8yqyjexfhkYs44BFtlkW9MRF5KnHk6SgUWFy6plUrrvqqNGQNgqVDE69UtnoRKj0WkI2PWW6kBJhPuKhnpbP2Qgghe+hcI3ARIEGvo6UdXZCGceFnqiI=; Message-ID: <266194.45782.qm@web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mOnl4xEVM1kUuGYglDquFLQxDbc40Cv6YawV4y2LkRwL19uhaiuQcQu7sPEUQDd6XTFY6_wLD5QgLTiBBs4jQD_3oI5fMTb7sAnzrLGO6GYM2xAcFWZ5c18UMuuibvxDReG2_coFvQxPszA8QtSIarErEgTZjxTDfMmmO4ke.S0F5KtGcFeuWRFUTVrR Received: from [98.169.13.4] by web52111.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:55:57 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: libgtkhtml-3.14 >= 3.23.5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:56:00 -0000 Hi all: I have problems to compile mail/evolution: "checking for GTKHTML... configure: error: Package requirements (libgtkhtml-3.14 >= 3.23.5) were not met: Requested 'libgtkhtml-3.14 >= 3.23.5' but version of libgtkhtml is 3.18.3 Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix." under www/libgtkhtml, it is version of 2.11.1, and www.gtkhtml is version 1.xx something. where is the version >= 3.23.5? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 19:56:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336DF1065783 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:56:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4058FC17 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:56:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2133409rvb.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:56:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5e7v0AftPZidtSuewQIntwjTqN4HOBl4iXIaS0JXn+c=; b=juC9nvo3wwzY1+bHt/JpLBQ7/czjyUsjUYF0mNn5Lzr2C85GGFjB9Bsz5OY7t4Bgvn BwN1GKSOBPL3mOYhp9TSUWJaHzDPnr5l5ne6ZrJ+uAh4FSObay2qCiJ0AvjqRHgKDQqv 2CuIko4QyCsVLeecSuFr/4mXN3HMTCaLs8e6M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TObiXJgRju401BbVWqegMVsT1X0Xq74sTSERsQkS4h58WtCIqsUoa+oYiwvNykwH+8 kFNRhmq51awUtj1jJKQ/EX8I4l6+ntE/prTWUYe+FTCpT3h7drHugPgiN9w2zezixicS ivxcujFRMpzRJ6cgA6GM7CM6FzyflUQRyEyGk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.242.8 with SMTP id p8mr2565860wfh.60.1235935488088; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:24:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:24:47 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:56:16 -0000 Cron is not sending output as emails. I noticed this when I stopped seeing the output of a backup script in my daily email. I thought there was a problem with the backup script - but no, it's cron not sending the emails. I had this problem before on 6.1, which I never found a solution to. I gave up on it, and eventually I upgraded to 7.1. After the upgrade, cron worked perfectly. However, I just noticed that it stopped working again. I have no idea what changed (It's a production server, I haven't been playing with config files). User www's mail is redirected to root, which is redirected to a @gmail account via /etc/aliases. This is on 7.1-RELEASE-p3 running a custom kernel. Any solution to this problem would be fantastic. I use the emails from cron on a daily basis, and it really messes me up to have it not working. ##### # User www's crontab # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail ##### MAILTO=root # m h dom mon dow cmd * * * * * echo "Hello" #### # /var/log/cron #### Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22627]: (operator) CMD (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, group_compat, setgrent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, group_compat, endgrent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, passwd_compat, endpwent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22628]: (www) CMD (echo "Hello") Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, group_compat, setgrent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, group_compat, endgrent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, passwd_compat, endpwent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, group_compat, setgrent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, group_compat, endgrent, not found Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, passwd_compat, endpwent, not found #### # /var/log/maillog #### Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant sendmail[22630]: n21JM0Gl022630: from=www, size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, msgid=<200903011922.n21JM0Gl022630@youcant.tastetherainbow.ws>, relay=www@localhost From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 20:31:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82346106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:31:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.eu [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9AD8FC1A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:31:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-63-16.51-151.net24.it [151.51.16.63]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21KUvnd046573 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:31:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n21KZMnS083978; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:35:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <49AAF0AC.6080704@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:31:40 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 212.31.247.179 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:31:56 -0000 Wojciech Puchar ha scritto: >> Hello. >> Has anyone been using the above (either USB or SATA)? >> Do they work with FreeBSD? > > i don't see a reason it should not. Although they are HD, they are sold as tape replacement. I was told they are seen as tapes and last time I checked only SCSI tapes were supported by FreeBSD. The whole thing might however not hold and they could be seen for what they are: just hard disks. This is another good question... > anyway - it's cardridges are more expensive than ordinary hard disks - > doesn't make sense. On the cost you are right; they justify this with higher reliability. Whether this is true or not, I don't know. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 21:40:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375F5106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:40:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) Received: from relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net [212.159.7.36]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB1938FC19 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:40:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from admin@cpcnw.co.uk) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AloSADuIqknUnw4S/2dsb2JhbACBU4hMg2bGaAeEEwaEMA Received: from pih-relay05.plus.net ([212.159.14.18]) by relay.ptn-ipout02.plus.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 21:11:23 +0000 Received: from [81.174.174.115] (helo=main) by pih-relay05.plus.net with smtp (Exim) id 1LdswV-0008Ly-C4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:11:23 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Graham Bentley" To: References: <20090301190734.B119910656D3@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:11:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Plusnet-Relay: 01065b5ca2a4aa004a97e248adce8d94 Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Graham Bentley List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:40:58 -0000 I installed one of these recently under CentOS and it worked exactly as a SATA disc. Its more convenient than plugging data / power every day and looks more professional when used for customers servers. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 22:00:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EB0106564A for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5DE8FC13 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:59:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21LxnZt044067; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:59:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21LxndM044064; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:59:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:59:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <49AAF0AC.6080704@netfence.it> Message-ID: References: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> <49AAF0AC.6080704@netfence.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:00:01 -0000 >> >> i don't see a reason it should not. > > Although they are HD, they are sold as tape replacement. > I was told they are seen as tapes and last time I checked only SCSI tapes > were supported by FreeBSD. > > The whole thing might however not hold and they could be seen for what they > are: just hard disks. > > This is another good question... > > > > >> anyway - it's cardridges are more expensive than ordinary hard disks - >> doesn't make sense. > > On the cost you are right; they justify this with higher reliability. > Whether this is true or not, I don't know. for sure not. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 22:01:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598F11065673 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:01:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0368FC20 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:01:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21M0nN5044092; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:00:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21M0ndN044089; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:00:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:00:49 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Graham Bentley In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20090301190734.B119910656D3@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:01:03 -0000 > worked exactly as a SATA disc. Its more convenient > than plugging data / power every day and looks more ^^^^^^ the only true argument. if they like to pay more and You sell it - very good. for SATA disks - use e-SATA connectors or USB-SATA bridges From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 22:37:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B495D106566C for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from parrot.aev.net (parrot.aev.eu [212.31.247.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF608FC16 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.ventu (adsl-ull-63-16.51-151.net24.it [151.51.16.63]) (authenticated bits=128) by parrot.aev.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21MaXD3055546 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:36:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.ventu [10.1.2.18]) by soth.ventu (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n21MewAA007520; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:40:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Message-ID: <49AB0E1C.50604@netfence.it> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:37:16 +0100 From: Andrea Venturoli User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wojciech Puchar References: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> <49AAF0AC.6080704@netfence.it> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.64 on 212.31.247.179 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:37:30 -0000 Wojciech Puchar ha scritto: >> On the cost you are right; they justify this with higher reliability. >> Whether this is true or not, I don't know. > > for sure not. Well, they say they resist a lot better to accidental falling; I never looked into them first hand, so I'm not able to tell if this is a myth or not. bye av. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 23:13:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56B371065670 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB298FC12 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n21ND5vN069068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n21ND5T0069067; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA15310; Sun, 1 Mar 09 15:02:38 PST Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:02:19 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net Message-Id: <49ab13fb.s7xXxGuXI7v/zFQ3%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> <200902282359.24584.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200902282359.24584.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:13:08 -0000 Mel wrote: > On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote: > > I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works > > on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such > > am application available? > > Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what > software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the > INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers. ... which may not be much of a stretch for those who are prepared to download and trust the packages themselves, from the same place. portupgrade -PP manages somehow. BTW, the OP may not realize that "the package system" is a subset of "the port system", rather than an alternative. Packages are generated using the port system. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 23:14:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4AC10656F5 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:14:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4718A8FC15 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:14:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n21NEIvu044523; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:14:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n21NEISh044520; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:14:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:14:18 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Andrea Venturoli In-Reply-To: <49AB0E1C.50604@netfence.it> Message-ID: References: <49AAAA1C.4080804@netfence.it> <49AAF0AC.6080704@netfence.it> <49AB0E1C.50604@netfence.it> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tandberg RDX QuikStor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:14:24 -0000 >> >> for sure not. > > Well, they say they resist a lot better to accidental falling; I never looked you seriously underestimate normal cheap hard disks :) of course they will fail when hit WHILE WORKING, but when turned off they can stand REALLY a lot. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 1 23:30:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCB7106566B for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:30:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smallhand@crawblog.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175AC8FC14 for ; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:30:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smallhand@crawblog.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so1802751qwe.7 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:30:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.73.193 with SMTP id r1mr2739937qcj.53.1235948662031; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:04:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:04:22 -0600 Message-ID: <919383240903011504r52936d5y9ce45977ded15826@mail.gmail.com> From: Edward Ruggeri To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Linux binary wants GLIBC_2.4, GLIBCXX_3.4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:30:13 -0000 I am using FreeBSD 7.0 Stable. I want to run the Linguistica project Linux binary. However, after loading the Linux kernel module, when I try to run the binary the system replies: ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) Besides asking the Linguistica developers whether they actually must require such recent versions of the GNU C, C++ libraries, I tried to install a more recent linux_base. However, everything beyond linux_base-fc4 does not support Linux kernel 2.4.2. Is there a module for a newer version of the linux kernel that I can build so as to install a newer linux_base? Or is there a way to use the same 2.4.2 module but use more recent GNU C libraries? I am not an expert in this area; is there something I haven't thought of? Thanks! Sincerely, -- E Ruggeri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 00:12:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB08010656BD for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org (mho-02-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3818FC28 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from [65.102.233.117] (helo=www.schnarff.com) by mho-02-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldufr-0000AJ-HJ for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 23:02:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 69296 invoked by uid 80); 1 Mar 2009 23:00:06 -0000 Received: from alex-fios (alex-fios [173.79.6.3]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:00:06 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 65.102.233.117 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18iNgmN5efFbKHtJjJDfiZUMmZIqLzjqn8= Message-ID: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:00:06 -0500 From: Alex Kirk To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Cc: Subject: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:12:33 -0000 First off, I realize that this may be more of a lower-level hardware =20 question than is appropriate to ask here, but I'm at a real loss, and =20 have no idea who else to ask...so I apologize in advance if I'm being =20 a pest. That said: I've got a FreeBSD 7.0/stable box that is used as the =20 development server for a live system I administer. It recently crapped =20 out on me (the dev box), and I realized that its power supply had =20 kicked the bucket. After going out and replacing the power supply, it =20 booted right back up, I ssh'd in, and when I ran my first userland =20 command - "w", FWIW - it froze up solid. I got one more SSH session in =20 attempting to figure out WTF was going on before it wouldn't even log =20 me in any more. After a couple of hard reboots, I decided to attach a monitor to it to =20 see what was going on. It turns out that the RAID5 array on the system =20 had really lost its mind - all four devices that were part of the =20 array were listed as being offline, which of course meant that the =20 system could no longer boot (as it was booting off of the RAID). The =20 controller is an integrated Intel Matrix DHC7R, built onto the =20 motherboard. I looked around the web a bit to try to figure out how to fix this, =20 and ran across a couple of forum posts (which I can unfortunately no =20 longer seem to find) suggesting that this particular controller was =20 prone to an issue where hard power-downs would sometimes make the =20 drives go offline, and that I needed to boot from CD to re-initialize =20 them into their previous state. I tried first with an Ubuntu Linux CD =20 I had handy - which promptly freaked out and dropped me into an =20 emergency shell - and then the FreeBSD 7.0 boot-only disc. The latter =20 was a bit more helpful, because I got this diagnostic: ar0: WARNING - parity protection lost, RAID5 array in DEGRADED mode ar0: 715418MB status: DEGRADED ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master ar0: disk1 READY using ad8 at ata4-master ar0: disk2 READY using ad6 at ata3-master ar0: disk3 DOWN no device found for this subdisk ar1: 715418MB status: BROKEN ar1: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk ar1: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk ar1: disk2 DOWN no device found for this subdisk ar1: disk3 READY using ad10 at ata5-master Now I can see that my problem is that I've somehow got *two* RAID =20 devices, both improperly configured, whereas I'd only had one before. Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while retaining =20 my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd really prefer not =20 to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. Thanks, Alex Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 00:36:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B632106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:36:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1F28FC1A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:36:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working (pool-72-95-226-5.pitbpa.ftas.verizon.net [72.95.226.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FAE5EBC0A; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:36:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:36:33 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Ming Tang" Message-Id: <20090301193633.c9ed3807.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20090227145716.9e3bdc3c.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ClamAV execusion died without error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:36:36 -0000 "Ming Tang" wrote: > > Bill, > > Thank you for the response. > > I tried and did not figure out where is the problem. I am attaching the > command line prompts and clamd.log and freshclam.log content here. > > ns1# > ns1# ./clamav-clamd.sh status > clamav_clamd is not running. > ns1# ./clamav-clamd.sh start > Starting clamav_clamd. > LibClamAV Warning: ************************************************** > LibClamAV Warning: *** The virus database is older than 7 days! *** > LibClamAV Warning: *** Please update it as soon as possible. *** > LibClamAV Warning: ************************************************** > ns1# ./clamav-clamd.sh status > clamav_clamd is not running. > ns1# > > ns1# cat clamd.log > +++ Started at Sat Feb 28 10:43:36 2009 > clamd daemon 0.94.1 (OS: freebsd5.4, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) > Running as user clamav (UID 1#, GID 1#) > Log file size limited to 1048576 bytes. > Reading databases from /var/db/clamav > Not loading PUA signatures. > Loaded 455125 signatures. > LOCAL: Removing stale socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock > LOCAL: Unix socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock > LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 15 > Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600 bytes. > Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes. > Limits: Recursion level limit set to 16. > Limits: Files limit set to 10000. > Archive support enabled. > Algorithmic detection enabled. > Portable Executable support enabled. > ELF support enabled. > Mail files support enabled. > OLE2 support enabled. > PDF support enabled. > HTML support enabled. > Self checking every 1800 seconds. > > ...... > > ns1# > ns1# ./clamav-freshclam.sh status > clamav_freshclam is not running. > ns1# ./clamav-freshclam.sh start > Starting clamav_freshclam. > ns1# ./clamav-freshclam.sh status > clamav_freshclam is not running. > ns1# > > ns1# cat freshclam1.log > -------------------------------------- > freshclam daemon 0.94.1 (OS: freebsd5.4, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) That's certainly strange. Try starting the processes manually instead of using the rc scripts, and see if they exit with an error of some sort. Also, I seem to remember having difficult with permissions under some circumstances, where the processes couldn't write to directories they needed -- check that both clamd and freshclam are running as the same user/group. See if you're getting core files anywhere (check /var/log/messages for coredump messages). Audit your config files and make sure nothing is out of sorts. Sorry I can't give you any more specific information, but I've not seen the problem you're having. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 00:40:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 196EC106567F for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from whiskey.ihavefire.com (orange.ihavefire.com [204.246.77.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69318FC1B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from orange.ihavefire.com (orange.ihavefire.com [204.246.77.201]) by whiskey.ihavefire.com (8.14.2/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n220StEp052773; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:28:55 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:28:55 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie X-X-Sender: jamie@whiskey.ihavefire.com To: Alex Kirk In-Reply-To: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> Message-ID: References: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:40:55 -0000 >Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while retaining my >data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd >really prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. >Thanks, >Alex Kirk I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in there the OS isn't going to be able to fix anything. - Jamie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 00:56:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658C3106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF0E8FC16 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:56:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1188598yxl.13 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Y8tn17vyC0RJ9IiXnPfB1iE84ApoDSVFWI162tHmNHQ=; b=G9K4efavGgy2j07X05nDWdeYPdbuGlk8ZGnYu9rh+tA0dOdeY70CBCY2lUZcozkHwf /RwMxgjn6Ibx/SUHPnnPafk1TERKIbk6U6Xhdz3cXg4xk2uiNH2+AyDe/p6mkFTj1Lry qLvnS2a0bc/PrnzxPV7WfX3tN8/nzDf2KQVeo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WH16tZBPnAtLw02rZPsHqK7INMpt+csfeZ2fjuG7Hpm+IkA41IC12OWQHQ9rZgYf5a TJMRsUcoKtPf6Ieh4ZXYznDNTNZkxSPBI1WhSUjM82VW/RKP3JMngjEfspLp3vgalztU mfGtzr3bQc2PxbZKnxlhQRvhQtmcV7iGPSvDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.91.148 with SMTP id n20mr1502056vcm.68.1235955388395; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:56:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49AA4AD2.8030908@gmail.com> References: <49AA4954.7010700@a1poweruser.com> <49AA4AD2.8030908@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:56:28 -0500 Message-ID: <28283d910903011656pebcfb6esd977249b38380ed7@mail.gmail.com> From: matt donovan To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions , Fbsd1 Subject: Re: Xorg mouse and massive error log messages problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:56:29 -0000 Xorg 7.4 has some major problems on FreeBSD my Xorg shows my cards bios screen when booting but yeah you need dbus and hal running unless you add the option that is in /usr/ports/UPDATING to your ServerLayout From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 01:22:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B312F106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org (mho-02-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F68FC18 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:22:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from [65.102.233.117] (helo=www.schnarff.com) by mho-02-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LdwrJ-0006dP-Ab for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:22:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 72170 invoked by uid 80); 2 Mar 2009 01:20:04 -0000 Received: from alex-fios (alex-fios [173.79.6.3]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:20:04 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 65.102.233.117 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX18R0LrTgh+bGFPRk+2neYrwQSY17BAJLLY= Message-ID: <20090301202004.19264ty2m0sdne4g@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:20:04 -0500 From: Alex Kirk To: Jamie References: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:22:19 -0000 >> Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while =20 >> retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd >> really prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. > >> Thanks, >> Alex Kirk > > > > > I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what =20 > containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in there =20 > the OS isn't going to be able to fix anything. > > > - Jamie > Sorry, should have already gone over this. The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are "Create Array", "Delete =20 Array", "Reset Disk States", and "Exit". It shows only the one array, =20 but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just =20 concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state table (or =20 whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed =20 up and the data will be unrecoverable. Alex ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 01:35:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5215106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:35:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from mx.utwente.nl (mx3.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1965C8FC13 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:35:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by mx.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n221Z8IS024912; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:35:08 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:35:07 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <919383240903011504r52936d5y9ce45977ded15826@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <919383240903011504r52936d5y9ce45977ded15826@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903020235.07985.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: Edward Ruggeri Subject: Re: Linux binary wants GLIBC_2.4, GLIBCXX_3.4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:35:15 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009, Edward Ruggeri wrote: > I am using FreeBSD 7.0 Stable. I want to run the Linguistica project > Linux binary. However, after loading the Linux kernel module, when I > try to run the binary the system replies: > > ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not > found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) > ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version > `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) > > Besides asking the Linguistica developers whether they actually must > require such recent versions of the GNU C, C++ libraries, I tried to > install a more recent linux_base. However, everything beyond > linux_base-fc4 does not support Linux kernel 2.4.2. > > Is there a module for a newer version of the linux kernel that I can > build so as to install a newer linux_base? Or is there a way to use > the same 2.4.2 module but use more recent GNU C libraries? I am not > an expert in this area; is there something I haven't thought of? You can "upgrade" the linux compatibility layer by setting the sysctl: compat.linux.osrelease=2.6.18 For example in /etc/sysctl.conf. Then you should be able to install a newer version of linux_base. -- Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 01:40:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C197C106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from mho-01-bos.mailhop.org (mho-01-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F2E8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:40:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from [65.102.233.117] (helo=www.schnarff.com) by mho-01-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Ldx9J-0009tE-Kq for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:40:53 +0000 Received: (qmail 72571 invoked by uid 80); 2 Mar 2009 01:38:40 -0000 Received: from alex-fios (alex-fios [173.79.6.3]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:38:40 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 65.102.233.117 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX188nQ2Lp5DjxFbOuGBvFyi1BSWUvNKvIoE= Message-ID: <20090301203840.130430myl3cd81wk@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:38:40 -0500 From: Alex Kirk To: Tamouh Hakmi References: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> <20090301202004.19264ty2m0sdne4g@mail.schnarff.com> <106485CFDFE44C7DBD441994EE990916@tamouh> In-Reply-To: <106485CFDFE44C7DBD441994EE990916@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:40:55 -0000 This is why I love open-source mailing lists - you never know what =20 sort of awesome you'll find! My question at this point, though, is how in the world I could =20 actually apply this patch, seeing as how the system is in a =20 non-bootable state. Is this something that's already been included in =20 a development branch that I could go download? Or do I need to do =20 something else? Thanks, Alex > Alex, > > This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets. =20 > There is a patch for it: > > http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(IC= H7)-td16179257.html > > I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted earlier =20 > today asking if anyone had tried out that patch. > > Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online. > > Thanks, > > Tamouh > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk >> Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM >> To: Jamie >> Cc: questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two >> >> >> Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while >> >> retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but >> I'd really >> >> prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. >> > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alex Kirk >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what >> > containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in >> there the >> > OS isn't going to be able to fix anything. >> > >> > >> > - Jamie >> > >> >> Sorry, should have already gone over this. >> >> The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are "Create Array", "Delete >> Array", "Reset Disk States", and "Exit". It shows only the >> one array, >> but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just >> concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state >> table (or >> whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed >> up and the data will be unrecoverable. >> >> Alex >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 01:53:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61D9106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:53:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: from smtp127.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp127.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.53.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88BEC8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:53:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from hakmi@rogers.com) Received: (qmail 97867 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2009 01:26:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=S83LbUghv8d8VyLdqYY02DRhAaNrWB7b2wsrQ5OjHAwyhZ/mPNMchn4c9pBy0NWJYaGAbVO2tzsPC8N6sFwbVyhnUbBx4RU5HO/20biMd1XW9NW9UgPjAER9RZ/xjEKZAjGnqGVsMTYi7oEYYJtma64cX9P/ynf++wYdhEug9dE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO tamouh) (hakmi@99.224.60.234 with login) by smtp127.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2009 01:26:45 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 01irR2QVM1keVAy7WSRFLSzHYsY.e48aqSdIipU3ZLwnnTfW93afy9YDRzKRcobdjQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Tamouh Hakmi" To: "'Alex Kirk'" , "'Jamie'" References: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> <20090301202004.19264ty2m0sdne4g@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:26:53 -0500 Message-ID: <106485CFDFE44C7DBD441994EE990916@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20090301202004.19264ty2m0sdne4g@mail.schnarff.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: Acma1WKdrEwaIJunSjGRb6Set3N+fQAAGuFg Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:53:28 -0000 Alex, This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets. There = is a patch for it: http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(I= CH7)-td16179257.html I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted earlier today = asking if anyone had tried out that patch. Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online. Thanks, Tamouh=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=20 > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk > Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM > To: Jamie > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two >=20 > >> Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while=20 > >> retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but=20 > I'd really=20 > >> prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. > > > >> Thanks, > >> Alex Kirk > > > > > > > > > > I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what=20 > > containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in=20 > there the=20 > > OS isn't going to be able to fix anything. > > > > > > - Jamie > > >=20 > Sorry, should have already gone over this. >=20 > The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are "Create Array", "Delete =20 > Array", "Reset Disk States", and "Exit". It shows only the=20 > one array, =20 > but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just =20 > concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state=20 > table (or =20 > whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed =20 > up and the data will be unrecoverable. >=20 > Alex >=20 >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to=20 > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 01:55:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0446A1065676 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7578FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1392816C0082; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:55:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n221tAbJ001617; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:55:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:55:09 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Daniel Lannstrom Message-Id: <20090302025509.100163c4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090301164355.GA29675@haruhi> References: <20090301155532.GA29514@haruhi> <4ad871310903010811o47b77f04y7976819e101b881b@mail.gmail.com> <20090301164355.GA29675@haruhi> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:55:18 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:43:55 +0100, Daniel Lannstrom wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > > This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT > > Yes that's exactly what I meant. Is there any other reason except for > that? As I see it that problem can easily be solved by copying bash to > the root file system. Also many systems today have the root and /usr > on the same file system. I wouldn't rely on the "many systems today" assumption. As an addition, I'd like to mention that there are "two root shells": First is the system's standard scripting shell /bin/sh which is usually invoked first when entering maintenance mode (single user mode). As well as FreeBSD's standard dialog shell /bin/csh it resides on the / partition. Maybe it can be seen as an "unwritten law", or at least as a kind of well intended suggestion to use /bin/csh for root's dialog shell as well as /bin/sh for scripting. It may be considered "old fashion", but it has served well to follow this suggestion over the years. Just as a very individual example, I haven't found any need to install BASH on any system I've done so far. But it's completely okay to have BASH as a user's dialog shell when the system is up and running well. Furthermore, I don't think copying the bash* binary is sufficient to have BASH in SUM in a problem situation (which is: / is mounted ro, nothing else mounted). Reason: % which bash | xargs ldd /usr/local/bin/bash: libncurses.so.7 => /lib/libncurses.so.7 (0x280ff000) libintl.so.8 => /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.8 (0x2813d000) libiconv.so.3 => /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 (0x28146000) libc.so.7 => /lib/libc.so.7 (0x2823b000) There are library dependencies on /usr partition. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 02:02:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E671065670 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D5A8FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:02:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C4416C0080; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:02:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2222VDm001756; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:02:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:02:31 +0100 From: Polytropon To: prad Message-Id: <20090302030231.26d42cda.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090301112154.4b4af511@gom.home> References: <20090301185131.GA52432@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20090301112154.4b4af511@gom.home> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:02:39 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:21:54 -0800, prad wrote: > besides, you don't really need to, do you? > i just log in with su -m and get to use my own account's aliases etc, > but as root. Furthermore, since the introduction of the sudo command (which is installabe by ports / package) prefixing commands with "sudo" seems to be okay for most tasks. And as you said, Prad, using FreeBSD's su command (su -m) will usually do just fine. Another "wisdom" about this topic: "If you see that you're spending so much time as 'root' that you feel you need to change the root shell to BASH, you're obviously doing something wrong." :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 02:03:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF04106574A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:03:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1078FC18 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:03:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LdxVO-0003SK-Lv; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:03:42 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2223gMK007700; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:03:42 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8C2BFCA4DB; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:03:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:03:36 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: APseudoUtopia Message-ID: <20090302020336.GA18386@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: APseudoUtopia , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:03:42 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:03:48 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 02:24:47PM -0500, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Cron is not sending output as emails. I noticed this when I stopped > seeing the output of a backup script in my daily email. I thought > there was a problem with the backup script - but no, it's cron not > sending the emails. > > I had this problem before on 6.1, which I never found a solution to. I > gave up on it, and eventually I upgraded to 7.1. After the upgrade, > cron worked perfectly. However, I just noticed that it stopped working > again. I have no idea what changed (It's a production server, I > haven't been playing with config files). > > User www's mail is redirected to root, which is redirected to a @gmail > account via /etc/aliases. > This is on 7.1-RELEASE-p3 running a custom kernel. > > Any solution to this problem would be fantastic. I use the emails from > cron on a daily basis, and it really messes me up to have it not > working. > > ##### > # User www's crontab > # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail > ##### > MAILTO=root > # m h dom mon dow cmd > * * * * * echo "Hello" > > > #### > # /var/log/cron > #### > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22627]: (operator) CMD > (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, setgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, endgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > passwd_compat, endpwent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22628]: (www) CMD (echo "Hello") > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, setgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, endgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > passwd_compat, endpwent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, setgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, endgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > passwd_compat, endpwent, not found > > > > #### > # /var/log/maillog > #### > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant sendmail[22630]: n21JM0Gl022630: from=www, > size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, > msgid=<200903011922.n21JM0Gl022630@youcant.tastetherainbow.ws>, > relay=www@localhost It looks like you're using user: www for your crontab. Unfortunately, from /etc/passwd: www:*:80:80:World Wide Web Owner:/nonexistent:/usr/sbin/nologin i.e user www can't do much without a shell. Create a crontab as a user with a shell, MAILTO to your gmail account. The user may want to be a member of a group with privileges. Or use sudo. Don't forget to add him to /var/cron/allow as per manpage for crontab(1). You could set SHELL in your crontab for www (might work) but I'd use a different user who's a member of group operator maybe. Hope that helps. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 03:14:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF07106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: from web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.110]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C6168FC13 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:14:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ipfreak@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 8444 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2009 03:14:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235963657; bh=m3rD4qyZ2lNb8t7GhQEtGqAVnTZUijI4gB/zWg7LemQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W2SgYUXS0NEVQIIu6XMP2ZMha7kIe/zpTU6LxQi1ldqC/vPpK2kNJ3x0vpCclpcJnZ+ICpORkXkSIMtM46fmIgR6OtUhFpDkxq0vmyqUbmWoC5mx+yWqwVa0UIGh5XHxfdSH/HwHIv7TO572kMFb8KAeVGoRnlESiLybFMcGIbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zp3mUAjtXVaXk4tHzTt8I3Id6HIsaHJPNsIgc2GXmp6Qwko5ZIj6WX/nL0o+cdkCcHxwf8ynu4q6akVsbSt9lM7eXfNxQOEydNUmlvqnuur8Jq3IjHjn/qu9hd0TTOQk1m6AEcnq8drVIeSBnt54PMMFbJMiYF828OhmyMIuvRY=; Message-ID: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: URcqyXEVM1m9iqOAKAeVLsp2Shvrr4LSzrSBPGvJeJg4kzr.mcN4ZaJ.qrXuKOBLDt4NVBToxlWXB3KA43D3hs4msDIvTQWAo1ge.cqoEbDRl2k5QJdByEpef76TosoiLm3fWPdo_pCPbQ_3KqksDE6gZqPEEoviTZqBCiKxolbh5KKQxjpkbNgaWHCI Received: from [98.169.13.4] by web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:14:17 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) From: gahn To: freebsd general questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: rc.conf and starting scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ipfreak@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:14:19 -0000 Hi all: I have some starting scripts under some other directories other than /etc/rc.d. How could I utilize the rc.conf file to start them when the system boots up? The default location for rc.conf is /etc/rc.d only and the knob "local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d" doesn't seem to be working for me for some reasons From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 03:18:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15EA7106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9218FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 22:18:14 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id POH57887; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:18:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 01 Mar 2009 22:18:12 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18859.20467.977510.981661@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 22:18:11 -0500 To: ipfreak@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: rc.conf and starting scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:18:15 -0000 gahn writes: > The default location for rc.conf is /etc/rc.d only and the knob > "local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d" doesn't seem to be working > for me for some reasons Your best bet is to figure out why the latter is true, and fix it. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 03:41:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BEB91065670 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:41:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BA788FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:41:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n223Umfq062968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:30:48 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n223XfXv040533; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:33:41 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:33:41 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903020333.n223XfXv040533@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: ipfreak@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> (message from gahn on Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:14:17 -0800 (PST)) References: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf and starting scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:41:09 -0000 Hi, > The default location for rc.conf is /etc/rc.d only and the knob > "local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d" doesn't seem to be working for > me for some reasons Syntax? on my machines it's: local_startup="/usr/local/etc/rc.d" with quotes around the path, not around the full line. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 03:54:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480E0106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f166.google.com (mail-ew0-f166.google.com [209.85.219.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98898FC17 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:54:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy10 with SMTP id 10so1714405ewy.43 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:54:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mJrr+GX43ciVj4jDvpbWS8H9KSr9p7dqa99Zbz2xU34=; b=M0yD0USqut7mMes6rp4M1lPg/VLUS0255aEYBI4Q3NxOPvMq+3DvpFEYO4GGhsuyRK 6ZyVuIrYKeazC27r8+dye25Jn7Fhhkt283I57h0hA7VrbnCh10W0UVh9KnpAPssl4Eyr SVGs9Urg8GNqpQbmtH2ynsVG43djBr3C9HKok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U5C9tgClGJU0sm9SJxtoRWOSqHITBnrKFfs7ICVVd45D4G3YAn2A9mUlO+ZJMhtBv6 wWzasTLGCgy/vuTqH0So35EjQavisobn6Da4mGcc19xcC8g1raOQ6HufrPyU6A/tHXPo d235GakeYK7u37DgWFjDOaSbC1TvbTWqhMw8Q= Received: by 10.210.51.10 with SMTP id y10mr4367982eby.62.1235966046686; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5sm8108480gve.34.2009.03.01.19.53.57 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 01 Mar 2009 19:54:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:53:24 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090302035324.2b4e4a09@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: rc.conf and starting scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:54:08 -0000 On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:14:17 -0800 (PST) gahn wrote: > > Hi all: > > I have some starting scripts under some other directories other > than /etc/rc.d. How could I utilize the rc.conf file to start them > when the system boots up? > > The default location for rc.conf is /etc/rc.d only and the knob > "local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d" doesn't seem to be working for me > for some reasons /usr/local/etc/rc.d is the default for local scripts, that's where package put their scripts, but there are some rules. - they should either be proper RCNG scripts or they should end in a .sh extension - local RCNG scripts are ignored if they order themselves before the early-late divider. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 04:41:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C4B106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094EE8FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7C616C003F; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:41:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n224f5QZ001688; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:41:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:41:05 +0100 From: Polytropon To: RW Message-Id: <20090302054105.21f48c93.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090302035324.2b4e4a09@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090302035324.2b4e4a09@gumby.homeunix.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rc.conf and starting scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:41:13 -0000 Allow me an addition: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:53:24 +0000, RW wrote: > /usr/local/etc/rc.d is the default for local scripts, that's where > package put their scripts, but there are some rules. > > - they should either be proper RCNG scripts or they should end in a .sh > extension I'm not sure if this is valid anymore, but I think it's also neccessary that a *.sh script is chmod +x, or it won't be executed at startup. These scripts are located in /usr/local/etc. The rc-style scripts ("foo { start | stop | restart | status }") are located in the rc.d/ subdirectory, just like in /etc. They usually have a corresponging enable setting ("foo_enable") in /etc/rc.conf or /etc/rc.conf.local (see "man rc.conf"), as well as means to set parameters ("foo_flags" or something specific). -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 04:52:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82088106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:52:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.alestock@yahoo.com) Received: from web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.110.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E6488FC21 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:52:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.alestock@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 23690 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2009 04:25:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235967944; bh=V2zxdhNKHh9DJ03eTaq1Hi6oNxDJb0STg8x1sqXrZxY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O3cQElMOzEhX8uHF4a4is1/Pb4uZKtprigmiTSK7veyVVfA9WFM2QKgBNz3VMgi+t9RpXQ2IHizmhWBz95k6NXtpSypjMuZzxEBfj2F6qjN8I/2Ynm1I3QKUlMdpPaCcdYEGG6eb/YInOvPMPRzNwoExoV+08MJc1YIWIEBVang= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JSgVyQHmM1oNC2r9XRg1+OkFyU2LZiN/YOm28pxr38TmEOI7tYG+wEW8GNA7Uq6WggybLNcVdfadtxSfTJQdSmPDuxvIhuA2GTb8roGlNf7IvquGc8Y5JfT+x2Hs1vFzrUBPMufDcEu9n/TdoudtrHUeIr/66WtH5A7b5p7VRMU=; Message-ID: <526674.23467.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: t.U20FoVM1ldAFHYj.2o_MWUgcy.BZjwnVvfRQ2ZZ9vEClbCJGU- Received: from [12.146.0.130] by web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:25:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:25:44 -0800 (PST) From: "\"Michael A. Alestock\"" To: questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Subject: ACPI issue on my Toshiba laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:52:26 -0000 Hi all, As you're already aware, there've been known issues with ACPI running on some laptops. For instance, mine is a Toshiba Satellite A105-S2051. When I first installed FreeBSD v6.3 I would get the following error... *** ACPI-0370: Error - No installed handler for fixed event *** >From here, I wouldn't be able to use my built-in LAN or Atheros 5212 wireless because of constant WATCHDOG: DEVICE TIMEOUT error messages. However, I later found out that by disabling the ACPI by placing two lines in your /boot/device.hints or /boot/loader.conf files, hint.apic.0.disabled="1" hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" you would be able to use both the wireless and LAN without the ACPI running. This has been the case for me for a while, and everything was going great until lastnight.... I went to go do my monthly source update. While rebooting I couldn't get back into FreeBSD. I would get this dreadful message at the very beginning of the scrolling boot up messages.... ioapic0: Assuming intbase of 0 *panic: Bogus interrupt flags* >From here I only had two options, either shut down or reboot, but would get the same message no matter what. In other words, FreeBSD won't let me fully boot up unless I have ACPI "enabled" or select the boottime option to run with it enabled. Booting up would let me back into FreeBSD, but then I'd start getting the awful, "Watchdog: Device Timeout" messages, and my LAN and wireless connections would be useless. I'm assuming there was something added in the source update that altered the ACPI again?? Does anyone know how to get around this?? It's driving me nuts! FreeBSD is basically useless if I can't use any Internet connection. :( Thank You in advance.... -Frustrated FreeBSD user. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 05:08:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442351065672 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:08:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C7E8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimitar.vassilev@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so1218887ywt.13 for ; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:08:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mk5oD3YRgXZhEBmQ2TKFmOdGdivMBQCqT1SoJm95IeA=; b=dnSmdUsTFzFG7qgGD8BD0hiZ7vwJU6dMGddp4yImXwOsqwBV+gpr1Icd4XRnbGFOQa wpIW8S60pBB39ZVWDn53ZLqyseMizhr4Hep43rNbK9ZVB6yjmozrk5tqdBO8SahB1Yh+ anh/TYv1MrtO7VgB9R3S5+iNxxXtQYwNj0b10= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jlLzuLVEvG62WZ1dExHZGDDs8UTH/DHYT0AMMu4pag0NjC24Cs+xtyIq7LVk//0aDF Zf9AqLZo+ljhZJdolfSMfNFIAxjKQ3uNlIHHZJZ0mtkMu6SzU4x4+8FNCyAUscReBh2m bo78STk40+Lf5wR8sig5h70lKI2AKL+iB+pAA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.57.17 with SMTP id f17mr9629972yba.118.1235970496342; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:08:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090301203840.130430myl3cd81wk@mail.schnarff.com> References: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> <20090301202004.19264ty2m0sdne4g@mail.schnarff.com> <106485CFDFE44C7DBD441994EE990916@tamouh> <20090301203840.130430myl3cd81wk@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:08:16 +0200 Message-ID: <59adc1a0903012108o77fa8c9fl45b9977069b91799@mail.gmail.com> From: Dimitar Vasilev To: Alex Kirk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:08:17 -0000 2009/3/2 Alex Kirk : > This is why I love open-source mailing lists - you never know what sort of > awesome you'll find! > > My question at this point, though, is how in the world I could actually > apply this patch, seeing as how the system is in a non-bootable state. Is > this something that's already been included in a development branch that I > could go download? Or do I need to do something else? > What I'd do is: make a distribution with the patch included in the source tree on another machine with your current KERNCONF, etc if you have backups of them. Then try reinstalling the machine and if backups are on your side all should be OK. I don't follow -current and -hackers much to advise if it has been fixed upstream. If you have another machine where you can check-out current tree and see if patch has been merged there - good. Regards, Dimitar From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 05:23:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50644106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@me.com) Received: from asmtpout024.mac.com (asmtpout024.mac.com [17.148.16.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC608FC19 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 05:23:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@me.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [10.200.0.197] ([64.142.54.201]) by asmtp024.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFV00MBJ2V95560@asmtp024.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:50 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> From: Andrew Moran To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:23:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:23:54 -0000 Hey guys, After having lots of problems with memory and 7.1/ZFS, I first switched everything to 64-bit (amd64), and then I had a new problem, so I eventually gave up and switched back to UFS (saying on amd64 distro/ports), but I'm still having memory issues. My current one is that SpamAssassin seems to be periodically eating up all my memory, causing the server to slow to a crawl until the kernel kills the process and then I have enormous amounts of free memory. Rinse, repeat. I thought maybe it had something to do with the fact that I was using multithreaded perl (which I wasn't before I jumped into 7.1/ZFS), but rebuilding perl (and all its' dependencies) without threads didn't help. I have 8GB of physical memory and 16GB of swap memory. Here is a line from top showing perl taking 21 gigs of memory: 6035 0 1 76 0 21190M 791M pfault 0 1:20 4.69% perl5.8.9 The error messages I get when this is happening look like: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed pid 6035 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space Obviously I have a memory leak somewhere, but I can't tell where. I upgraded to the latest port (synced and compiled today). I spent the day doing the "portupgrade -f R r p5-Mail-SpamAssassin" to make sure everything was rebuilt. But alas, the problem persists. Has anyone heard of this? Or any pointers on what I can do to figure out what is causing it? Your advice is much appreciated. --Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 07:53:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB4E106567C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s17.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s17.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F488FC19 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:53:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W30 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s17.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:53:38 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.7] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: , FreeBSD Questions , Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:53:38 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 07:53:38.0697 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF4D4790:01C99B0B] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:53:39 -0000 Hi=2C=20 I am not sure but as per some internet guide=2C I have configured the bridg= e on Freebsd(7) Machine with two LAN cards on it =20 I have compiled my KERNEL with (device if_bridge)=20 =20 and then added code to rc.conf =20 cloned_interfaces=3D"bridge0" ifconfig_bridge0=3D"addm sk0 addm sk1 up" ifconfig_sk0=3D"up" ifconfig_sk1=3D"up" I connected two linux PCs with these two interfaces (s= k0 and sk1) and tried to ping between them but didnt get any success.config= uration seems to be ok=2C but still no traffice is being passed. Can any on= e give any sugestion ? Regards!!!!! =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 08:24:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BDE10656C3 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B20F8FC14 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 24B171173C4D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:24:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49AB978C.4070701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:23:40 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:24:18 -0000 Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure but as per some internet guide, I have configured the bridge on Freebsd(7) Machine with two LAN cards on it > > > > I have compiled my KERNEL with (device if_bridge) > > > > and then added code to rc.conf > > > cloned_interfaces="bridge0" > ifconfig_bridge0="addm sk0 addm sk1 up" > ifconfig_sk0="up" > ifconfig_sk1="up" I connected two linux PCs with these two interfaces (sk0 and sk1) and tried to ping between them but didnt get any success.configuration seems to be ok, but still no traffice is being passed. Can any one give any sugestion ? Regards!!!!! > > > What does ifconfig show? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 08:28:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36091065670 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F8A8FC27 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:28:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n228PIUc074215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:25:18 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n228SAN7080657; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:28:10 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:28:10 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: faizi62@hotmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Faizan ul haq Muhammad on Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:53:38 +0000) References: X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:28:18 -0000 Hi, > I connected two linux PCs with these two interfaces (sk0 and sk1) > and tried to ping between them but didnt get any > success.configuration seems to be ok, but still no traffice is being > passed. Can any one give any sugestion ? Stupid question, but if you connect the 2 Linux boxes directly (without the FreeBSD bridge in between) can they ping eachother? Are you using properly crossed cables? On the FreeBSD box, you can tcpdump(8) and see the packets moving: tcpdump -i sk0 and tcpdump -i sk1 and you will see the pick request and ping echo packets. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 08:34:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55079106567F for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345138FC1D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:34:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2223076wfd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:34:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.42.7 with SMTP id u7mr2893416wfj.99.1235982383094; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:26:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:26:23 -0800 Message-ID: <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> From: Paige Thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:34:10 -0000 Also I wanted to note how I got to this problem: [root@ /usr/src]# make buildkernel config=GENERIC 2> error.log [root@ /usr/src]# uname -a FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 [root@ /usr/src]# I also wanted to mention that I tried this with the "LINT" configuration and had the same result. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Paige Thompson wrote: > [root@ /usr/src]# head error.log > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:35:23: error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file > or directory > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: error: expected declaration > specifiers or '...' before string constant > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: warning: data definition has no type > or storage class > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: warning: type defaults to 'int' in > declaration of '__FBSDID' > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: warning: function declaration isn't a > prototype > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:42:23: error: sys/param.h: No such file > or directory > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:43:23: error: sys/systm.h: No such file > or directory > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:44:23: error: sys/assym.h: No such file > or directory > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:45:21: error: sys/bio.h: No such file or > directory > /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:46:21: error: sys/buf.h: No such file or > directory > [root@ /usr/src]# > > > [root@ /usr/src]# cat sys/i386/i386/genassym.c | grep "cdefs.h" > #include > > [root@ /usr/src]# ls -lah /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h > -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 18K Feb 24 2008 /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h > [root@ /usr/src]# > > wat wat wat???? Not sure what I'm missing here o.O > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 08:45:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A50A1065674 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:45:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from jasper.secsrv.net (jasper.secsrv.net [66.98.138.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82D48FC20 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:45:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from [145.102.113.76] (helo=nannerl.std.ahk.nl) by jasper.secsrv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le3mV-0003HU-Tu; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:45:48 -0500 Message-Id: <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> From: FBSD UG To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:45:14 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa><87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jasper.secsrv.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rgbaz.eu X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:45:50 -0000 On 28 feb 2009, at 17:26, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Sean Cavanaugh said the following on 2009-02-28 16:25: >> ------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Bernt Hansson" >> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:32 AM >> To: "FBSD UG" >> Cc: "freebsd-questions" >> Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook >>> FBSD UG said the following on 2009-02-28 10:50: >>>> >>>> On 27 feb 2009, at 13:39, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: >>>> >>>>> Em Sex, 2009-02-27 =E0s 14:45 +0300, zaa@zaa.pp.ru escreveu: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 03:04:09PM +0530, Nataraj S Narayan =20 >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hear that Mac OS X and later ones are based on FreeBSD. My =20 >>>>>>> wife is >>>>>>> planning to get a Macbook , which I don't quite approve. Mainly >>>>>>> because we need to pay for any upgrade or new add ons. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I use a free version of the Leopard based on darwin (freebsd6) =20 >>>>> named >>>>> "hackintosh" it is the google, >>>>> it is free, and just works... >>>>> >>>>> You can even buy a "standard" notebook, and install. I will =20 >>>>> transform >>>>> the notebook in an >>>>> apple leopard 10. >>>> >>>> Tha's, ehm, quite illegal to say the least... >>> >>> Of course it isn't illegal. You can run any system you like on =20 >>> your own hardware. >> unless you actually READ the licensing on OSX that says It can only =20= >> be installed on apple brand hardware > > It doesn't really matter much what they say in their eula. If i =20 > bought a copy then i can do/install whatever I want since there =20 > isn't any agreement between apple and me. For the agreement to be =20 > binding I must sign a contract with apple. > You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one =20 Apple computer. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 08:49:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEC0A10656CA for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B2E88FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2227869wfd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:49:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.82.13 with SMTP id f13mr2883197wfb.290.1235982076742; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:21:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:21:16 -0800 Message-ID: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> From: Paige Thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:49:49 -0000 [root@ /usr/src]# head error.log /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:35:23: error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: error: expected declaration specifiers or '...' before string constant /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: warning: data definition has no type or storage class /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: warning: type defaults to 'int' in declaration of '__FBSDID' /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:36: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:42:23: error: sys/param.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:43:23: error: sys/systm.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:44:23: error: sys/assym.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:45:21: error: sys/bio.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:46:21: error: sys/buf.h: No such file or directory [root@ /usr/src]# [root@ /usr/src]# cat sys/i386/i386/genassym.c | grep "cdefs.h" #include [root@ /usr/src]# ls -lah /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 18K Feb 24 2008 /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h [root@ /usr/src]# wat wat wat???? Not sure what I'm missing here o.O From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 09:08:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6160106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc1-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.45]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7708FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W4 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:08:37 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.7] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:08:36 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 09:08:37.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[788556C0:01C99B16] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:08:37 -0000 =20 > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 15:28:10 +0700 > From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > To: faizi62@hotmail.com > CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.org= =3B fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) >=20 > Hi=2C >=20 > > I connected two linux PCs with these two interfaces (sk0 and sk1) > > and tried to ping between them but didnt get any > > success.configuration seems to be ok=2C but still no traffice is being > > passed. Can any one give any sugestion ? >=20 > Stupid question Yess it is =2C but if you connect the 2 Linux boxes directly > (without the FreeBSD bridge in between) can they ping eachother? Yes they can >=20 > Are you using properly crossed cables? Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. >=20 > On the FreeBSD box=2C you can tcpdump(8) and see the packets moving: > tcpdump -i sk0 and tcpdump -i sk1 and you will see the pick request > and ping echo packets. >=20 it says arp: who has 192.168.0.4 tell 192.168.0.5 > Olivier _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_03200= 9= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 09:13:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6FA6106568A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589C68FC22 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:13:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Le4Df-0006ft-GI for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:13:51 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-19-16.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.19.16]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:13:51 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-19-16.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:13:51 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:14:36 -0500 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-19-16.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:14:05 -0000 Paige Thompson wrote: > Also I wanted to note how I got to this problem: > > [root@ /usr/src]# make buildkernel config=GENERIC 2> error.log > [snip] cd /usr/obj and rm -rf usr before trying again. Then cd /usr/src and do: make buildkernel KERNCONF=nameofsomeconffile another example: make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC If you have an unadulterated GENERIC conf file present and you just issue make buildkernel by itself it will select GENERIC as default. Try correct procedure first, and hope there is no problem. -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 09:22:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57211106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:22:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305DA8FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFV000ETGPTUJF0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n229Meh0000715; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:22:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:22:40 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" To: freebsd general questions Message-id: <49ABA560.8050308@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Subject: OT: what is the X11 equiv of /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:22:43 -0000 I often want to run applications from my PC (actually the dual boot partition on my desktop 7.1) on one of the X11 capable 7.1 machine at work (identical configs except for dual booting) and want to be able to open applications (like deluge) on the work machine that require a X11 server... I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target the X11 equiv of /dev/null ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 09:28:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F3B106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82818FC23 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:28:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so2470524rvb.43 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:28:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.162.21 with SMTP id k21mr2836282rve.191.1235986139298; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:28:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:28:59 -0800 Message-ID: <5061b39c0903020128i63f81812ne7699dedb4e4b8a5@mail.gmail.com> From: Paige Thompson To: nightrecon@verizon.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:29:00 -0000 Mike, I think you misread what I sent, however I noticed that you used 'KERNELCONF' instead of 'config' (as I noted) but I still get the same error. I want to say the issue must have something to do with the fact that there's no environment variables that specify the include directories. FWIW here's what I have in my env: [root@ /usr/src]# env TERM=xterm SHELL=/usr/local/bin/bash SSH_CLIENT=192.168.23.1 2436 22 SSH_TTY=/dev/ttyp0 USER=erratic ENV=/home/erratic/.shrc PAGER=more FTP_PASSIVE_MODE=YES PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/home/erratic/bin MAIL=/var/mail/erratic BLOCKSIZE=K PWD=/usr/src EDITOR=vi SHLVL=1 HOME=/root LOGNAME=erratic SSH_CONNECTION=192.168.23.1 2436 192.168.23.249 22 _=/usr/bin/env OLDPWD=/usr/obj [root@ /usr/src]# On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Michael Powell wrote: > Paige Thompson wrote: > > > Also I wanted to note how I got to this problem: > > > > [root@ /usr/src]# make buildkernel config=GENERIC 2> error.log > > > [snip] > > cd /usr/obj and rm -rf usr before trying again. Then cd /usr/src and do: > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=nameofsomeconffile another example: > > make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > > If you have an unadulterated GENERIC conf file present and you just issue > make buildkernel by itself it will select GENERIC as default. Try correct > procedure first, and hope there is no problem. > > -Mike > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 09:35:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95428106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:35:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A78A8FC22 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:35:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n229WeSx076936 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:32:40 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n229ZXXo090477; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 (ICT) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: faizi62@hotmail.com In-reply-to: (message from Faizan ul haq Muhammad on Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:08:36 +0000) References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:35:46 -0000 Hi, > > Are you using properly crossed cables? > Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your FreeBSD bridge and each of your Linux boxes. As someone suggested, what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD box? You should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else it means you have a cable problem. An example of ifconfig for a bridge (FreeBSD 4.xx): fxp0: flags=89c3 mtu 1500 ether 00:07:e9:xx:xx:xx media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active fxp1: flags=89c3 mtu 1500 ether 00:07:e9:yy:yy:yy media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active Once you make sure that both interfaces on your FreeBSD box are up and running, you can procced to the next step: > > On the FreeBSD box=2C you can tcpdump(8) and see the packets moving: > > tcpdump -i sk0 and tcpdump -i sk1 and you will see the pick request > > and ping echo packets. > it says arp: who has 192.168.0.4 tell 192.168.0.5 You'd need to give more information about your connection; something like: Linux 192.168.0.4 <---> sk0 FreeBSD sk1 <---> Linux 192.168.0.5 And you should also specify if ou where tcpdump'ing on interface sk0 or sk1. Once your bridge is working, you will get the same thing for tcpdump on both interfaces. Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 09:43:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664F91065672 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:43:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172AC8FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:43:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF4F3C914; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:43:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n229hbhf034266; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:43:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:43:37 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Paige Thompson Message-Id: <20090302104337.d06b2b63.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5061b39c0903020128i63f81812ne7699dedb4e4b8a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020128i63f81812ne7699dedb4e4b8a5@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nightrecon@verizon.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:43:53 -0000 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:28:59 -0800, Paige Thompson wrote: > Mike, > > I think you misread what I sent, however I noticed that you used > 'KERNELCONF' instead of 'config' (as I noted) but I still get the same > error. Correct is KERNCONF= as parameter for buildkernel and installkernel targets. Allthough the "old way" using config && make depend && make is still supported. Don't miss the "make depend". > I want to say the issue must have something to do with the fact that > there's no environment variables that specify the include directories. As far as I know, there are system defaults that apply. When building from updated sources, the files within the source tree are used (in /usr/src). There's nothing that should be in the env output. I'd suggest to follow the already given advice to work exactly "by manual", at least for the first time. Have a look at the comments /usr/src/Makefile, they're explaining the most obvious mistakes one could make. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 10:09:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC41106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:09:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from jasper.secsrv.net (jasper.secsrv.net [66.98.138.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140F98FC20 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:09:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from [145.102.113.76] (helo=nannerl.std.ahk.nl) by jasper.secsrv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Le3w8-0005SJ-Sm; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 03:55:45 -0500 Message-Id: <89992418-C56E-4969-864C-798105B17F3A@rgbaz.eu> From: FBSD UG To: Charles Oppermann In-Reply-To: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:55:24 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jasper.secsrv.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rgbaz.eu X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:09:13 -0000 On 1 mrt 2009, at 07:37, Charles Oppermann wrote: >>> That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, >>> simply >>> open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of >>> the >>> EULA. >> >> Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in >> Sweden. > > That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The > Mac OS X > license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: > > http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf > > There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on- > line > translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been > stated; > use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you > do not > agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the > retail > materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy > that is > presented and must be agreed to before use. > > I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license > agreements > and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may > not be in > violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is > not a > handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and > ill-advised. > > Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements > simply > weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from > occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't > enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying > business. > > ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change > their > license agreements in order to prevent it. > >> If you are under 18 you can't make any >> legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. > > That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or > guardians > are usually held responsible. > _______________________________________________ it's probably why this is happening in Sweden: http://www.ukfast.co.uk/internet-news/pirate-bay-court-case-starts.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 10:45:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518A4106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBB58FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:45:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2265435wfd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:45:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.102.5 with SMTP id z5mr2936061wfb.334.1235990728735; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:45:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5061b39c0903020243j64dd9739ua26277d639834d27@mail.gmail.com> References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020128i63f81812ne7699dedb4e4b8a5@mail.gmail.com> <20090302104337.d06b2b63.freebsd@edvax.de> <5061b39c0903020159m44d36a19m60a5079f43564193@mail.gmail.com> <20090302112443.5a08f565.freebsd@edvax.de> <5061b39c0903020243j64dd9739ua26277d639834d27@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: <5061b39c0903020245u1fbd668bgb0022e3ec37cdfb6@mail.gmail.com> From: Paige Thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:45:29 -0000 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Paige Thompson wrote: > You're right, my source tree is incomplete: > > # pwd > /usr/src/sys > # cd sys > sys: No such file or directory. > # > > Thank you that helps a lot actually, it probably has something to do > with the source archives that I downloaded not being extracted > properly. I'm not a big fan of sysinstall, I prefer to work without > it. You know the whole thing seems like its setup to try and force me > to use sysinstall. Even the ftp client gives me a lot of flack about > how I use mget (IE: mget ssys.* not being a valid way to just fetch > all of the files) so of course i'm left to go through and fetch each > of them individually :(( > > and for whatever reason, Im not having any luck with ncftp which I'm > sure I could figure it out but I really don't think that I should have > to install an additional FTP client just so I can fetch the kernel > source ._. it kind of negates the whole minimalist aspect of having > multiple archive files in the first place. > > Am I right? > > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Polytropon wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:59:43 -0800, Paige Thompson wro= te: >>> I have followed the manual, line for line or I wouldn't have gotten >>> this far. I'm sorry but >>> >>> # cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar -xzvf - >>> # cat /cdrom/src/sbase.[a-d]* | tar -xzvf - >>> >>> isn't typical archiving practice by today's standards (geez was it >>> ever?) >> >> I'd thought that you've simply used sysinstall to install the >> distribution "src-all", would be much easier. :-) >> >> Maybe you can try this again, but prior to this try, be sure to >> eliminate everything that might be interfering: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# rm -r /usr/src >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# rm -r /usr/obj >> >> >> >>> As per your suggestion to check in the Makefile, I have found nothing >>> that really eludes me as to why file cdefs.h actually does >>> exist in /usr/include/sys yet the compiler does not see it probably >>> because the compiler is not being given the correct include path or an >>> include path at all for that matter. >> >> As I mentioned, I think the compile process first generates a >> subtree in /usr/obk according to /usr/src and uses this for the >> compile process. I'm not sure if the system files will then be >> looked at... >> >> >>> Reiteration: >>> >>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC fails due to the following: >>> >>> # head error.log >>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:35:23: error: sys/cdefs.h: No such >>> file or directory >>> >>> when viewing the code /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c on line 35 I fi= nd: >>> >>> #include >>> >>> (please note the following carefully) >>> Note that sys/cdefs.h is enclosed in <> as opposed to "" quotations. >>> In C this indicates that the header should be included from an include >>> path that's passed as an argument to the compiler-- *how ever and >>> where ever that is done is what I would like to know.* >> >> Exactly. While "..." refers to $CWD, <...> refers to the -I parameter >> of cc. This parameter is set by Makefile. >> >> Be sure that your sources are complete. >> >> >> >>> Now furthermore, /usr/local/include has *nothing* and I'm almost >>> willing to bet you anything that if I copied * from /usr/include to >>> /usr/local/include that would fix the issue except I don't think >>> that's how this was intended to work. >> >> No. /usr/local does ONLY contain things that do not belong to the >> operating system, such as things installed by ports or packages. >> >> We're talking about the operating system (and its kernel) itself, >> so we're completely outside of /usr/local. >> >> In such a situation, cdefs.h can be found in different places: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0% locate cdefs.h >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/src/sys/sys/cdefs.h >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/lp.cdefs.= h >> >> The first one is the system one's. The second one belongs to the >> compiling process, generated by the sources. The third and forth >> one ARE the sources for this. >> >> >> >>> Based on what I have read here: >>> >>> http://www.nabble.com/What-is-CPP%27s-real-default-include-path--td1705= 7087.html >>> (and from that please note:) >>> >>> > =C2=A0 GCC looks in several different places for headers. =C2=A0On a = normal Unix >>> > =C2=A0 system, if you do not instruct it otherwise, it will look for = headers >>> > =C2=A0 requested with `#include ' in: >>> > >>> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/local/include >>> >>> I came across this thread by googling: "FreeBSD Include Path" >> >> As I said, that is a "Linux-ism". :-) >> >> For inclusion, first come the system's directories /usr/include, then >> the local additions /usr/local/include. The last ones are not of >> any value regarding the kernel and system compilation process. >> >> >> >> To be sure, ABSOLUTELY sure, use sysinstall to get the sources from >> the CD, deleting any previous existence of them. Then, >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# cd /usr/src >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC >> >> By the way, omitting KERNCONF loads GENERIC automatically. >> >> I think - and that's a quite wild guess - your problem is caused by >> incomplete sources. >> >> A final question: Are you using the sources from the CD "as is" >> (which release?) or do you update them (how?) before starting the >> compilation process? >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Polytropon >> From Magdeburg, Germany >> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 10:45:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D048D106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2168FC2D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:45:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erratic@devel.ws) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2265435wfd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:45:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.31.4 with SMTP id i4mr2947115wfj.102.1235990751600; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:45:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5061b39c0903020244v773db23bt66313dab71f1e223@mail.gmail.com> References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020128i63f81812ne7699dedb4e4b8a5@mail.gmail.com> <20090302104337.d06b2b63.freebsd@edvax.de> <5061b39c0903020159m44d36a19m60a5079f43564193@mail.gmail.com> <20090302112443.5a08f565.freebsd@edvax.de> <5061b39c0903020243j64dd9739ua26277d639834d27@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020244v773db23bt66313dab71f1e223@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:45:51 -0800 Message-ID: <5061b39c0903020245n4c718599w5f4be03b35f995b9@mail.gmail.com> From: Paige Thompson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:45:53 -0000 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Paige Thompson wrote: > PS: it seems just straight up mget * works x.x > k! satisfactory enough... > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Paige Thompson wrote: >> You're right, my source tree is incomplete: >> >> # pwd >> /usr/src/sys >> # cd sys >> sys: No such file or directory. >> # >> >> Thank you that helps a lot actually, it probably has something to do >> with the source archives that I downloaded not being extracted >> properly. I'm not a big fan of sysinstall, I prefer to work without >> it. You know the whole thing seems like its setup to try and force me >> to use sysinstall. Even the ftp client gives me a lot of flack about >> how I use mget (IE: mget ssys.* not being a valid way to just fetch >> all of the files) so of course i'm left to go through and fetch each >> of them individually :(( >> >> and for whatever reason, Im not having any luck with ncftp which I'm >> sure I could figure it out but I really don't think that I should have >> to install an additional FTP client just so I can fetch the kernel >> source ._. it kind of negates the whole minimalist aspect of having >> multiple archive files in the first place. >> >> Am I right? >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 01:59:43 -0800, Paige Thompson wr= ote: >>>> I have followed the manual, line for line or I wouldn't have gotten >>>> this far. I'm sorry but >>>> >>>> # cat /cdrom/src/ssys.[a-d]* | tar -xzvf - >>>> # cat /cdrom/src/sbase.[a-d]* | tar -xzvf - >>>> >>>> isn't typical archiving practice by today's standards (geez was it >>>> ever?) >>> >>> I'd thought that you've simply used sysinstall to install the >>> distribution "src-all", would be much easier. :-) >>> >>> Maybe you can try this again, but prior to this try, be sure to >>> eliminate everything that might be interfering: >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# rm -r /usr/src >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# rm -r /usr/obj >>> >>> >>> >>>> As per your suggestion to check in the Makefile, I have found nothing >>>> that really eludes me as to why file cdefs.h actually does >>>> exist in /usr/include/sys yet the compiler does not see it probably >>>> because the compiler is not being given the correct include path or an >>>> include path at all for that matter. >>> >>> As I mentioned, I think the compile process first generates a >>> subtree in /usr/obk according to /usr/src and uses this for the >>> compile process. I'm not sure if the system files will then be >>> looked at... >>> >>> >>>> Reiteration: >>>> >>>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC fails due to the following: >>>> >>>> # head error.log >>>> /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c:35:23: error: sys/cdefs.h: No such >>>> file or directory >>>> >>>> when viewing the code /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/genassym.c on line 35 I f= ind: >>>> >>>> #include >>>> >>>> (please note the following carefully) >>>> Note that sys/cdefs.h is enclosed in <> as opposed to "" quotations. >>>> In C this indicates that the header should be included from an include >>>> path that's passed as an argument to the compiler-- *how ever and >>>> where ever that is done is what I would like to know.* >>> >>> Exactly. While "..." refers to $CWD, <...> refers to the -I parameter >>> of cc. This parameter is set by Makefile. >>> >>> Be sure that your sources are complete. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Now furthermore, /usr/local/include has *nothing* and I'm almost >>>> willing to bet you anything that if I copied * from /usr/include to >>>> /usr/local/include that would fix the issue except I don't think >>>> that's how this was intended to work. >>> >>> No. /usr/local does ONLY contain things that do not belong to the >>> operating system, such as things installed by ports or packages. >>> >>> We're talking about the operating system (and its kernel) itself, >>> so we're completely outside of /usr/local. >>> >>> In such a situation, cdefs.h can be found in different places: >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0% locate cdefs.h >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/sys/cdefs.h >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/src/sys/sys/cdefs.h >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/lp.cdefs= .h >>> >>> The first one is the system one's. The second one belongs to the >>> compiling process, generated by the sources. The third and forth >>> one ARE the sources for this. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Based on what I have read here: >>>> >>>> http://www.nabble.com/What-is-CPP%27s-real-default-include-path--td170= 57087.html >>>> (and from that please note:) >>>> >>>> > =C2=A0 GCC looks in several different places for headers. =C2=A0On a= normal Unix >>>> > =C2=A0 system, if you do not instruct it otherwise, it will look for= headers >>>> > =C2=A0 requested with `#include ' in: >>>> > >>>> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0/usr/local/include >>>> >>>> I came across this thread by googling: "FreeBSD Include Path" >>> >>> As I said, that is a "Linux-ism". :-) >>> >>> For inclusion, first come the system's directories /usr/include, then >>> the local additions /usr/local/include. The last ones are not of >>> any value regarding the kernel and system compilation process. >>> >>> >>> >>> To be sure, ABSOLUTELY sure, use sysinstall to get the sources from >>> the CD, deleting any previous existence of them. Then, >>> >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# cd /usr/src >>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0# make buildkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC >>> >>> By the way, omitting KERNCONF loads GENERIC automatically. >>> >>> I think - and that's a quite wild guess - your problem is caused by >>> incomplete sources. >>> >>> A final question: Are you using the sources from the CD "as is" >>> (which release?) or do you update them (how?) before starting the >>> compilation process? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Polytropon >>> From Magdeburg, Germany >>> Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 >>> Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... >>> >> > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 10:59:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B33106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E228FC16 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:59:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 524BF16C002D; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:59:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n22AxDT3038045; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:59:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:59:13 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Paige Thompson Message-Id: <20090302115913.f4a6ca3e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <5061b39c0903020243j64dd9739ua26277d639834d27@mail.gmail.com> References: <5061b39c0903020021t311f69c8va16b425e13f80eeb@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020026u7ad4d422w8f572f35bb27f9d1@mail.gmail.com> <5061b39c0903020128i63f81812ne7699dedb4e4b8a5@mail.gmail.com> <20090302104337.d06b2b63.freebsd@edvax.de> <5061b39c0903020159m44d36a19m60a5079f43564193@mail.gmail.com> <20090302112443.5a08f565.freebsd@edvax.de> <5061b39c0903020243j64dd9739ua26277d639834d27@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Kernel Compile issue X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:59:21 -0000 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:43:01 -0800, Paige Thompson wrote: > You're right, my source tree is incomplete: > > # pwd > /usr/src/sys > # cd sys > sys: No such file or directory. > # I had a similar problem some years ago and couldn't find out what the reason was - the magic of this mailing list didn't open up to me that time yet. :-) > Thank you that helps a lot actually, it probably has something to do > with the source archives that I downloaded not being extracted > properly. This should be followed by an error message, either by ftp for an incomplete archive or by tar for a defective (and also incomplete) one. > I'm not a big fan of sysinstall, I prefer to work without > it. >From my experience, it's quite handy at install time. This usually is the time when I get the sources from the CD. After that, I don't use sysinstall anymore. FreeBSD brings excellent tools for the system administration as well as for installing software. When sources and ports tree are in place, I usually update them using cvsup (old fashioned, I know). Then everything should be up to date, ready for a "make" run in /usr/src. > You know the whole thing seems like its setup to try and force me > to use sysinstall. In any case, you should get proper results without using sysinstall. All the tools are there. > Even the ftp client gives me a lot of flack about > how I use mget (IE: mget ssys.* not being a valid way to just fetch > all of the files) so of course i'm left to go through and fetch each > of them individually :(( + On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 02:44:27 -0800, Paige Thompson wrote: > PS: it seems just straight up mget * works x.x > k! satisfactory enough... Don't forget to unset "prompt". :-) But as I said, I prefer getting the sources from the CD (is much faster). > and for whatever reason, Im not having any luck with ncftp which I'm > sure I could figure it out but I really don't think that I should have > to install an additional FTP client just so I can fetch the kernel > source ._. It's FreeBSD, you don't have to do such stupid things. :-) You even don't need to install cvsup in order to update the sources, FreeBSD brings its own csup today. > it kind of negates the whole minimalist aspect of having > multiple archive files in the first place. > > Am I right? I'm not sure why the archive is split into multiple volumes... maybe historical reasons? -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 12:19:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0E5C1065670 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:19:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E69A8FC13 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:19:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from reddvinylene@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so1882146bwz.43 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:19:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=OrmWso2vWQ/DqYKeQAwNHUP8mz/VgQWJrEbidoExDTQ=; b=fwTpXL9radq2G0U6g0iYj7DOq3ZhCO5lp/f5EL7QjYfWr7qNn36IN7zJQgXqoYxYij eSVclCukPSCco2995V+n4aywxJKtl/ye1YG7wSlHHjNxvD/QSJuczWrlLM5L0N4UH1Lx ETcPchbTEMqMeyfYqI/u+4ELD0vFzaSc2FU5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=XreNmaKU46jiDwS+t4kUo8ZzO6ntb56DieQFbWc0/q84o106nfTOEEFu+IDRYBvw7H /uXsatXs9a8j5O8m4+KraUWgFCC8adv4ZkoMmGN1mIrVIJCvv+umAKRhmdy5fpSELrog 4cE1WlHBetVxMKdoTkL7upb1FTsm3vYTgwnXs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.238.4 with SMTP id p4mr2910451mur.68.1235996361762; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:19:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:19:21 +0100 Message-ID: From: Redd Vinylene To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: FreeBSD and Xen in paravirtualized mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:19:24 -0000 Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen in paravirtualized mode? Imagine the increase in ISPs being able to offer FreeBSD to its customers. I just got my heart broken today: http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=3191/ -- http://www.myspace.com/soultanisyourfriend From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 12:21:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7921065672 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25208FC21 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:21:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W39 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:21:53 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.7] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:21:53 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 12:21:53.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[78789140:01C99B31] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com, FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:21:54 -0000 =20 > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 > From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > To: faizi62@hotmail.com > CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.org= =3B fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) >=20 > Hi=2C >=20 > > > Are you using properly crossed cables? > > Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. >=20 > Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your FreeBSD > bridge and each of your Linux boxes. Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC to PC connect= ivity.=20 > As someone suggested=2C what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD box? You > should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else it means > you have a cable problem. sk0: flags=3D8943= metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3Db) status: active =20 =20 sk1: flags=3D8943= metric 0 mtu 1500 options=3Db) status: active =20 here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: bridge0: flags=3D8943 metri= c 0 mtu 1500 options=3Db=20 > An example of ifconfig for a bridge (FreeBSD 4.xx): >=20 > fxp0: flags=3D89c3 mtu 1500 > ether 00:07:e9:xx:xx:xx > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active > fxp1: flags=3D89c3 mtu 1500 > ether 00:07:e9:yy:yy:yy > media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) > status: active >=20 > Once you make sure that both interfaces on your FreeBSD box are up and > running=2C you can procced to the next step: >=20 > > > On the FreeBSD box=3D2C you can tcpdump(8) and see the packets moving= : > > > tcpdump -i sk0 and tcpdump -i sk1 and you will see the pick request > > > and ping echo packets. > > it says arp: who has 192.168.0.4 tell 192.168.0.5 >=20 > You'd need to give more information about your connection=3B something > like: >=20 > Linux 192.168.0.4 <---> sk0 FreeBSD sk1 <---> Linux 192.168.0.5 >=20 > And you should also specify if ou where tcpdump'ing on interface sk0 > or sk1. Once your bridge is working=2C you will get the same thing for > tcpdump on both interfaces. ok here is the detail: =20 Linux 192.168.0.5 <---> sk0 FreeBSD sk1 <---> Linux 192.168.0.4 ping from 192.168.0.5 to 192.168.0.4 tcpdump (on freeBSD) tcpdump -i sk0 RESULT arp: who has 192.168.0.4 tell 1= 92.168.0.5 ping from 192.168.0.4 to 192.168.0.5 tcpdump (on freeBSD) tcpdump -i sk1 RESULT arp: who has 192.168.0.5 tell 1= 92.168.0.4 tcpdump -i bridge0 gives nothing... > Olivier _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to m= eet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 12:44:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DA5106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julianwissmann@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5708FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julianwissmann@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so792130fgb.35 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:44:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=/eBs9FuL7mH5R1tZjMrYKFndSD007P+OpSQhEzq3HPE=; b=s8PjViDihirwXiTuAcAFoSNtP3TnpWA0/bHxF4iIJCdLdShLdgjYjnjsVSVJUIrCP3 Va7nKSclYtFaTvEte1nZzT2mBiwiWWJsV2dFM3ibUOEeZHgrz09S76q9vDGrpLyBM0d6 zqEa2VDw/Z97xVoBJO6HxQXiFhrqLhnemQUGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=wixPwP8no7py9H4765JRTwTv4kO4CsI/VouGDBpbsFc2Kn0cFUB6AfeOQ4xCTqU0fZ 7ZXFQR/VCm7ghOjfiM2R0RLCxfk01OEok/1Xwi+xmNTp4EFnd9KFUcMxivZiMGw6mMOr 1MhYHnCrvpguytPOtuJL/cE8cZ1jypAtYZYZQ= Received: by 10.86.66.19 with SMTP id o19mr6428203fga.7.1235996155767; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.178.34? (p54ACFC77.dip.t-dialin.net [84.172.252.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm267625fgb.41.2009.03.02.04.15.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:15:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <110F293A-E09B-40D2-9B8C-38E1D8C6D1B2@gmail.com> From: Julian Wissmann To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <49AB98C2.80900@bah.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:15:55 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <49A98FE5.7000404@hotmail.com> <49A9A52C.2010507@bah.homeip.net> <49A9ACBC.30506@bah.homeip.net> <49AB98C2.80900@bah.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:44:19 -0000 Oh, that didn't go to the list, did it. I should actually read where I send stuff to, well, anyway. Suse was bought by Novell a while back as you probably know, but as =20 far as I know the Suse team still is located in Nuernberg over here in =20= Germany. They're programmers/geeks whichever you prefer to call it, not lawyers. So chances are they didn't know about this either when they started =20 out, but considering that Yast was closed source for a while they =20 probably found out soon. Am 02.03.2009 um 09:28 schrieb Bernt Hansson: > Julian Wissmann skrev: >> An EULA actually in nearly all European Countries and probably most >> other countries in the World is not binding. > > That's my point. An EULA is just, that. An EULA. > >> Even in the US it is not >> quite clear if an EULA is a valid license agreement. > > Can't comment on that. > >> Also EULAs and >> many Licenses actually only apply to US Law, so basically they're not >> worth anything anywhere else. > > Yes. US law apply to us only. > >> You couldn't enforce a GPL in Germany or >> some other european countries for example, because it is built atop >> another legal system with different ideas of how things work. > > Interesting! Suse comes to mind, but is suse linux still based in =20 > germany? > >> Same >> thing applies to EULAs. I read a very interesting article on German =20= >> iX >> magazine recently wich was covering this. Don't have access to it >> right now though cause I'm on a trip home, so I can't really say much >> more about it, but if you want specific details I can post them in a >> bout a week. > > Take your time. This kind of discussion's come and go. > > > >> >> Am 28.02.2009 um 22:29 schrieb Bernt Hansson: >> >>> Chris Rees skrev: >>>> 2009/2/28 Bernt Hansson : >>>>> Lord Blackadder skrev: >>>>>> Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>>>> Sean Cavanaugh skrev: >>>>>> I'm sorry to disappoint you, Bernt, but under Swedish law any >>>>>> kind of >>>>>> agreement is legally binding. Even just a handshake. >>>>> Yes. But clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement >>>>> acording to Swedish law. >>> >>>> Again, back it up? You're just expecting us to believe your >>>> interpretation of the law. >>> Who's interpretation are you in comfort with? Your own? Sombody >>> else, a >>> lawyer? A pornstar? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>> " >> >> >> > > --=20 > Varning! E-post till och fr=E5n Sverige, eller som passerar servrar i > Sverige, avlyssnas av F=F6rsvarets Radioanstalt, FRA. > > WARNING! E-mail to and from Sweden, or via servers in Sweden, is > monitored by the National Defence Radio Establishment. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 12:52:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B841065677 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:52:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0308FC12 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:52:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Le7dV-0006E0-Cn for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:52:45 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:52:45 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:52:45 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:52:18 +0100 Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig49A0B3A1EF60D95833E28CC1" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Xen in paravirtualized mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:52:47 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig49A0B3A1EF60D95833E28CC1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Redd Vinylene wrote: > Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen in paravirtualized mode? Imagine the > increase in ISPs being able to offer FreeBSD to its customers. >=20 > I just got my heart broken today: > http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=3D3191/ Perhaps you could help fund the development of FreeBSD support for Xen? AFAIK lack of funding is what's keeping the development slow, though it does go on: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen --------------enig49A0B3A1EF60D95833E28CC1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJq9aIldnAQVacBcgRAqWIAKC8+1K5L6vurnJXWyP8TM+OZ0zVyACg3ZDO DXnNt3/r9cOwbQBlYVsnSLc= =f/u5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig49A0B3A1EF60D95833E28CC1-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 13:03:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77B291065670 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488818FC18 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from outbackdingo@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so5449506rvb.3 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:03:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=V7jMvrHP0Sz7s0lyqz13HiH3CA64BP8SKiWhUg/uT6M=; b=mi1DywKPqKR8MF7oIFBSEx6DKmANk57BQE0rRN7ibeBjzc8zPokDNF6uU7+vp9W8GW J49iiUAT7FiajPnViw/zIieT/cXERAIHERCRwFduS1nBMdBmXBFrGIOKFcrgCeoevsGj slC78U4ANL+RoATycV24HUDFsjCbhWo/DEkVs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Wi+yd/hf6DrVUxjPBGEXdhGpLfjZtI9oTa7UZyRSv1eOHe2PWE3YpkcmjCSlsb4joL h8Vfc7SVrmlq/IWQlckmxzlharsw95mt7IfHRj0mUEcwsxxrNR/x+kLpcmOv1jaxyPCO 3OcokC4otCyDYYh2f62aShhJDUBrE6BuQ/hvo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.115.6 with SMTP id s6mr2904183rvm.186.1235999023691; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:03:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:03:43 +0700 Message-ID: <5635aa0d0903020503n335111d5ib230ad12f0b5be96@mail.gmail.com> From: Outback Dingo To: Ivan Voras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Xen in paravirtualized mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:03:44 -0000 see http://www.rootbsd.net slicehost is uhmmm well i wount comment. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ivan Voras wrote: > Redd Vinylene wrote: > > Why doesn't FreeBSD support Xen in paravirtualized mode? Imagine the > > increase in ISPs being able to offer FreeBSD to its customers. > > > > I just got my heart broken today: > > http://forum.slicehost.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=3191/ > > Perhaps you could help fund the development of FreeBSD support for Xen? > > AFAIK lack of funding is what's keeping the development slow, though it > does go on: http://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/Xen > > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 13:45:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0660D106568A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33A58FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from omerfsen@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1262926yxl.13 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:45:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7lRPhKqJdezYEocJU/rpGx+wuBUdgu0uTOKRA5UNp6U=; b=orfM2aX8ioz3uTigqaJxVgv2HIyltCaJSsvxc5bQwtzr3ZVTphWK9LeVbwqxlybyUk GUmPu3OgOo2ThTrSHm3DXjikiVVjDTkzvh4SWUhojq2vNZv0as9VO7hd79GRL5i3uJhz bxmbT+mFc6j3jqnxuq8VsfF7EDptmQCnjrmM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JDKynfgfmldg+rFxoMt37xCEY7TKCrpIot0O+ln0IISJ6iwyvodSozCmgFtqsjGroG hahIZi2NTPLMTU+CFbi6AJmHsnrkPcXKMTvkUobsCGX5i/hoJji7j9sDOdvJok/Txnvx i4huItGBKUv9MmhOENxFHBqRZgcxCTiAsEEKQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.15.74 with SMTP id j10mr3260273iba.10.1236001542632; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 05:45:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:45:42 +0200 Message-ID: <75a268720903020545m36db92bby35e663ef6b55050d@mail.gmail.com> From: Omer Faruk Sen To: Tamouh Hakmi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: ata-raid.c patch for ICH7 RAID1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:45:44 -0000 I can't actually apply this patch to FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE. It seems ataraid is something not to be used in FreeBSD so I have started to use gmirror instead. Only downside of it is there are 2 disks shown in boot loader not one so if F1 (first disk goes) goes you have to manually select other disk just for one time. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Tamouh Hakmi wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone had experience applying this patch to their FreeBSD 6.x setup? > > http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(ICH7)-td16179257.html > > I've couple of machines using ICH8/ICH9 which seem to exhibit the same problems and would be interested in applying the patch. But want to avoid any complications that may result from it. > > Any feedback is appreciated, do you know if FBSD 6.4 has the patch already implemented? > > Thanks, > > Tamouh Hakmi > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 13:49:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317111065687 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040CD8FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:49:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2CA801173C40 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:49:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:48:40 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:49:10 -0000 Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 >> From: on@cs.ait.ac.th >> To: faizi62@hotmail.com >> CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; fbsd1@a1poweruser.com >> Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) >> >> Hi, >> >> >>>> Are you using properly crossed cables? >>>> >>> Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. >>> >> Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your FreeBSD >> bridge and each of your Linux boxes. >> > Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC to PC connectivity. > >> As someone suggested, what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD box? You >> should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else it means >> you have a cable problem. >> > > sk0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=b ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > status: active > > > > > > sk1: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=b ether 00:0a:5e:1a:67:ee > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > status: active > > > > here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: > > bridge0: flags=8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > options=b ether 0a:54:d7:7e:aa:66 > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priortiy 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > I think ifconfig bridge0 should list member interfaces. Did you add them? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 13:58:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B604106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from msa.vap.navalradio.cl (smtp.vap.navalradio.cl [201.236.67.147]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C822F8FC14 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Received: from [172.18.80.120] ([172.18.80.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by msa.vap.navalradio.cl (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n22DwP7Y003318; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:58:26 GMT (envelope-from mikhailg@webanoide.org) Message-ID: <49ABE5FC.40009@webanoide.org> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:58:20 -0300 From: Mikhail Goriachev Organization: Webanoide User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Moran References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> In-Reply-To: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:58:29 -0000 Andrew Moran wrote: [...] > Has anyone heard of this? Or any pointers on what I can do to figure > out what is causing it? > > Your advice is much appreciated. As an alternative: You could try mail/mimedefang. It calls spamassassin to evaluate an e-mail but without having it running all the time. This can solve your problem of running out of memory. For instance, sendmail could be the first line of defence with its own rules (rDNS, noMX, RBLs and what not). Then mimedefang with a set of rules to further reject dodgy e-mails (helo/ehlo, spoofings, SPF and so on). After that, spamassassin comes into play (controlled by mimedefang), but only at the end as a last line of defence. By the time it gets to the end, a lion's share has already been rejected and that means less work for spamassassin. I hope this helps. Regards, Mikhail. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:02:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79ADE1065673 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.79]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2F58FC1A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W81 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s4.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 06:01:59 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.7] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:01:59 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 14:01:59.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[749E0DD0:01C99B3F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:02:00 -0000 > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 07:48:40 -0600 > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) >=20 > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > =20 > > > > > > =20 > >> Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 > >> From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > >> To: faizi62@hotmail.com > >> CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net=3B freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg=3B fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > >> Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled= ) > >> > >> Hi=2C > >> > >> =20 > >>>> Are you using properly crossed cables? > >>>> =20 > >>> Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. > >>> =20 > >> Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your FreeBSD > >> bridge and each of your Linux boxes. > >> =20 > > Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC to PC con= nectivity.=20 > > =20 > >> As someone suggested=2C what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD box? Yo= u > >> should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else it means > >> you have a cable problem. > >> =20 > > > > sk0: flags=3D8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > options=3Db > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > > status: active > > > > =20 > > > > =20 > > > > sk1: flags=3D8943 metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > options=3Db > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:67:ee > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) > > status: active > > > > =20 > > > > here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: > > > > bridge0: flags=3D8943 m= etric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > options=3Db > ether 0a:54:d7:7e:aa:66 > > > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priortiy 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > =20 > I think ifconfig bridge0 should list member interfaces. Did you add them= ? ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up ifconfig sk0 up ifconfig sk1 up this configuration exists in rc.conf > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:05:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C936106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:05:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211BC8FC14 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D96741173C49 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:05:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49ABE795.1070306@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:05:09 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:05:40 -0000 Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:48:40 -0600 > > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) > > > > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 > > >> From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > > >> To: faizi62@hotmail.com > > >> CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > > >> Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is > enabled) > > >> > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> > > >>>> Are you using properly crossed cables? > > >>>> > > >>> Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. > > >>> > > >> Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your FreeBSD > > >> bridge and each of your Linux boxes. > > >> > > > Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC to > PC connectivity. > > > > > >> As someone suggested, what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD box? You > > >> should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else it means > > >> you have a cable problem. > > >> > > > > > > sk0: flags=8943 > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > options=b > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX flag2>) > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sk1: flags=8943 > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > options=b > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:67:ee > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX flag2>) > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: > > > > > > bridge0: flags=8943 metric > 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > options=b > > ether 0a:54:d7:7e:aa:66 > > > > > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priortiy 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > > > > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > > > > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > > > > I think ifconfig bridge0 should list member interfaces. Did you add > them? > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up > ifconfig sk0 up > ifconfig sk1 up > > this configuration exists in rc.conf > > if ifconfig doesn't print out something like this: bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 ether 4a:be:26:65:75:06 id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 member: sk0 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 member: sk1 flags=143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 Then you need to add the member interfaces. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:16:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820991065675 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA4B8FC13 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:16:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tfcheng@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so5365759gxk.19 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:16:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BgHj3vdT4WvC27Zpazp7ghendLPibKKgXui1P/7svxU=; b=Qefq6RcAX7zN+51dFw/7C1hKLetwCaOiG76ajZt2F/gcIXFpavM0FsxVfqYHQ6fG8H R5m5kY+br4mVsEcAqbLcHPeq6MkQP1kQbzB/iT7z5DQq1obtbwO89J9lSH2ek9LmDNAZ BvbCBhu25JkSQxNM8ECpYBsg7HjKe5jRHo/dY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bN2c7nYTZI40TiclUBy/TrjDBGF6zNWLdYVzhzZ3DrOh32wwz+pochhJHHIgcxg50P u7VAxeKo7ai3BnV7KLmRnhRJX4sJcXc6AqNC3oZ+1P+bjZuuWAXh6LQPSZ0zu0MjpN9s ENuZ0/D+XLrIblz51zF+3KWIfVnINROJik6To= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.73.210 with SMTP id r18mr1574609vcj.33.1236003362657; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:16:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:16:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Tsu-Fan Cheng To: FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:16:04 -0000 Hi all, I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:21:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3951B1065686 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.89]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBA8B8FC13 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:21:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W18 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s14.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 06:21:17 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.7] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:21:17 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49ABE795.1070306@gmail.com> References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> <49ABE795.1070306@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 14:21:17.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[26C2D7A0:01C99B42] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:21:19 -0000 > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 08:05:09 -0600 > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) >=20 > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 07:48:40 -0600 > > > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > > > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enable= d) > > > > > > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 > > > >> From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > > > >> To: faizi62@hotmail.com > > > >> CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net=3B=20 > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=3B fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > > > >> Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is=20 > > enabled) > > > >> > > > >> Hi=2C > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>>> Are you using properly crossed cables? > > > >>>> > > > >>> Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each other.. > > > >>> > > > >> Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your Free= BSD > > > >> bridge and each of your Linux boxes. > > > >> > > > > Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC to=20 > > PC connectivity. > > > > > > > >> As someone suggested=2C what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD box= ? You > > > >> should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else it me= ans > > > >> you have a cable problem. > > > >> > > > > > > > > sk0: flags=3D8943=20 > > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > options=3Db > > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX > flag2>) > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sk1: flags=3D8943=20 > > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > options=3Db > > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:67:ee > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX > flag2>) > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: > > > > > > > > bridge0: flags=3D8943 metric=20 > > 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > options=3Db > > > ether 0a:54:d7:7e:aa:66 > > > > > > > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > > > > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priortiy 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > > > > > > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > > > > > > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > > > > > > I think ifconfig bridge0 should list member interfaces. Did you add=20 > > them? > > > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up > > ifconfig sk0 up > > ifconfig sk1 up > > > > this configuration exists in rc.conf > > > > =20 > if ifconfig doesn't print out something like this: >=20 > bridge0: flags=3D8843 met= ric 0 mtu=20 > 1500 > ether 4a:be:26:65:75:06 > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > member: sk0 flags=3D143= =20 > ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > member: sk1 flags=3D143 > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 >=20 > Then you need to add the member interfaces. i noted that=2C following information is missing member: sk0 flags=3D143 =20 ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 member: sk1 flags=3D143 ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 Now i need to know how to add the interfaces..? Any command do u knw and can help me..? Regards!!! > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:28:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2506D1065680 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D5A8FC1D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB04D1173C4E for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:28:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49ABECF1.9070900@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:28:01 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> <49ABE795.1070306@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:28:32 -0000 Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:05:09 -0600 > > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) > > > > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:48:40 -0600 > > > > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > > > > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is > enabled) > > > > > > > > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 > > > > >> From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > > > > >> To: faizi62@hotmail.com > > > > >> CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net; > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > > > > >> Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is > > > enabled) > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>>> Are you using properly crossed cables? > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each > other.. > > > > >>> > > > > >> Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your > FreeBSD > > > > >> bridge and each of your Linux boxes. > > > > >> > > > > > Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC to > > > PC connectivity. > > > > > > > > > >> As someone suggested, what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD > box? You > > > > >> should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else > it means > > > > >> you have a cable problem. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > sk0: flags=8943 > > > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > > > options=b > > > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX flag1, > > > flag2>) > > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sk1: flags=8943 > > > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > > > options=b > > > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:67:ee > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX flag1, > > > flag2>) > > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: > > > > > > > > > > bridge0: flags=8943 > metric > > > 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > > > options=b > > > > ether 0a:54:d7:7e:aa:66 > > > > > > > > > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > > > > > > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priortiy 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > > > > > > > > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > > > > > > > > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > > > > > > > > I think ifconfig bridge0 should list member interfaces. Did you add > > > them? > > > > > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up > > > ifconfig sk0 up > > > ifconfig sk1 up > > > > > > this configuration exists in rc.conf > > > > > > > > if ifconfig doesn't print out something like this: > > > > bridge0: flags=8843 metric 0 > mtu > > 1500 > > ether 4a:be:26:65:75:06 > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > member: sk0 flags=143 > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > > member: sk1 flags=143 > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 > > > > Then you need to add the member interfaces. > > i noted that, following information is missing > member: sk0 flags=143 > ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > member: sk1 flags=143 > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 > > Now i need to know how to add the interfaces..? > Any command do u knw and can help me..? > > Regards!!! > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up ifconfig sk0 up ifconfig sk1 up From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:39:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF7C106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:39:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.109]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2118FC1D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W5 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 2 Mar 2009 06:39:11 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.21] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:39:11 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49ABECF1.9070900@gmail.com> References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> <49ABE795.1070306@gmail.com> <49ABECF1.9070900@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 14:39:11.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[A68623A0:01C99B44] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:39:12 -0000 > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 08:28:01 -0600 > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) >=20 > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 08:05:09 -0600 > > > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > > > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enable= d) > > > > > > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 07:48:40 -0600 > > > > > From: amvandemore@gmail.com > > > > > CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > > > > > Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is=20 > > enabled) > > > > > > > > > > Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 16:35:33 +0700 > > > > > >> From: on@cs.ait.ac.th > > > > > >> To: faizi62@hotmail.com > > > > > >> CC: fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net=3B > > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=3B fbsd1@a1poweruser.com > > > > > >> Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is > > > > enabled) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi=2C > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>>> Are you using properly crossed cables? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> Isnt it enough check for the that two linux can ping each=20 > > other.. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> Yes and no. You must used crossed Ethernet cable between your= =20 > > FreeBSD > > > > > >> bridge and each of your Linux boxes. > > > > > >> > > > > > > Frankly i am not sure about the cables type but they works PC t= o > > > > PC connectivity. > > > > > > > > > > > >> As someone suggested=2C what is ifconfig saying on the FreeBSD= =20 > > box? You > > > > > >> should see that both sk0 and sk1 have a status: active. Else=20 > > it means > > > > > >> you have a cable problem. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > sk0: flags=3D8943 > > > > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > > > > > options=3Db > > > > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:69:25 > > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX > flag1=2C > > > > flag2>) > > > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sk1: flags=3D8943 > > > > metric 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > > > > > options=3Db > > > > > ether 00:0a:5e:1a:67:ee > > > > > > media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX > flag1=2C > > > > flag2>) > > > > > > status: active > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here is the ifconfig output for the bridge interface: > > > > > > > > > > > > bridge0: flags=3D8943=20 > > metric > > > > 0 mtu 1500 > > > > > > > > > > > > options=3Db > > > > > ether 0a:54:d7:7e:aa:66 > > > > > > > > > > > > inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 > > > > > > > > > > > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priortiy 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > > > > > > > > > > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > > > > > > > > > > I think ifconfig bridge0 should list member interfaces. Did you a= dd > > > > them? > > > > > > > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up > > > > ifconfig sk0 up > > > > ifconfig sk1 up > > > > > > > > this configuration exists in rc.conf > > > > > > > > > > > if ifconfig doesn't print out something like this: > > > > > > bridge0: flags=3D8843= metric 0=20 > > mtu > > > 1500 > > > ether 4a:be:26:65:75:06 > > > id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 > > > maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto rstp maxaddr 100 timeout 1200 > > > root id 00:00:00:00:00:00 priority 32768 ifcost 0 port 0 > > > member: sk0 flags=3D143 > > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > > > member: sk1 flags=3D143 > > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 > > > > > > Then you need to add the member interfaces. > > > > i noted that=2C following information is missing > > member: sk0 flags=3D143 > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > > member: sk1 flags=3D143 > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 > > > > Now i need to know how to add the interfaces..? > > Any command do u knw and can help me..? > > > > Regards!!! > > > > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up > ifconfig sk0 up > ifconfig sk1 up Thanks a lot dear.. it worked. but i m still confused that i have the alternative configuration= in rc.conf as per guideline here on this page: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html it should have worked=2C but it did not. and here with these commands=2C it= is working.. I am able to get reply to ping Thanks a lot /Faizan >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Contacts: Organize your contact list.=20 http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-= cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:41:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192061065672 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [24.214.63.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC028FC20 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@Grumpy.DynDNS.org) Received: (qmail 15715 invoked by uid 0); 2 Mar 2009 14:41:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Grumpy.DynDNS.org) (75.76.211.79) by smtp1.knology.net with SMTP; 2 Mar 2009 14:41:10 -0000 Received: by Grumpy.DynDNS.org (Postfix, from userid 928) id 3E37528425; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:41:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:41:10 -0600 From: David Kelly To: Tsu-Fan Cheng Message-ID: <20090302144110.GB25087@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:41:16 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi all, > I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it > over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't > read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility > that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! The easiest way to do what you are attempting is to format the disk FAT. Then to preserve file attributes write your files in a tar archive. MacOS X knows UFS but might not know how to decipher a FreeBSD disk label. I haven't honestly tried. What I did do once was move a couple of drives previously used as a vinum striped RAID to MacOS X. Was frustrated that the MacOS Drive Utility would not allow me to create another striped volume on those drives. What I found out was that the drives had a Microsoft compatible disk label written by FreeBSD which MacOS was happily honoring. Would happily put an HFS+ partition on the drives. But MacOS X RAID had to be established at a lower level using a Macintosh disk label. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:54:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64B7106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5A38FC16 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22EsMiw005180 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:54:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id n22EsLcl005177 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:54:21 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:54:21 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: port / portupgrade hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:54:24 -0000 Sometimes (not often) when installing ports from the ports collection or upgrading ports (via portupgrade -R) when fetching some needed tar.gz file, the fetch hangs, just like now: => rdiff-backup-1.2.6.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. => Attempting to fetch from http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/rdiff-backup/. fetch: http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/rdiff-backup/rdiff-backup-1.2.6.tar.gz: Moved Temporarily => Attempting to fetch from http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/. rdiff-backup-1.2.6.tar.gz 43% of 191 kB 107 kBps This is now immobile for over an hour ... Up to now when such a hang occured, I just waited and waited and eventually it would continue and finish the job. But, is there a safe way to do a retry? I dare not just do a Ctrl-C and issue # portupgrade -R rdiff-backup again, since I have no no clue what could go wrong if one does that ... Or is it save to do Ctrl-C and try again? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 14:55:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5662106570D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCEB8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:55:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2348908wfd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:55:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=YynoeNWDzF+tM8kzgvFEeue74XRVEHI36HDmD5KkYDw=; b=smiklBcbkDkdyff7R39xwvgRE8c9Kl0azqoRq3oLdirN2xoUusljQWB4u/aqcEbwSy +sZgmXOw+g3P6G0Zg9wtJ0OnLpPVVq9bW9rbksBFSlXYHJsJyDYv3ZjKW7KGCe8yzF0u ZM22S5E7zoqVxf1OcuuqagIePSA6evRPONq6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xNIFyvWUwmM+NMtjp7e+tc7vTZsn4pnbGQ3fW1jdWwEwXeZSxx6dFBbMpUsranY0v2 Rkze2FFmAfln4XvsQ8tE1EmfXPuqRO1BVCKcAS++JgZiRYGfyvQkxR90D7WX6nTlqIJA bTBPmWpGZU18tFVAX2VtKSgw5zsjt5h6En4Hk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.221.11 with SMTP id t11mr3036427wfg.238.1236005729962; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 06:55:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:55:29 +0800 Message-ID: From: lacalling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How to repeat playing mp3 with mpg123 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:55:31 -0000 Since mpg123 does not support repeat model, i tried to write a script to play mp3 repeatedly. I tried bash like this for((;;)) do mpg123 [mp3] & done but it keeps running new mpg123 in background . but mpg123 [mp3] in foreground cant be terminated by control C Could anyone provide more ideas. thank you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 15:38:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81CD1065672 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from smtp.owt.com (smtp.owt.com [66.119.213.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FCE8FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:38:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from kstewart2.owt.com (kstewart2.owt.com [64.146.237.228]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.owt.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22FPg02004684; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:25:42 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=owt.com; s=default; t=1236007543; bh=sj7xXneTH2m1lGwMr7zt1QpEJHUpxCJ279X20cJ9ang=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id; b=Tum+qatp1GAPB gXwA7jQepa/hsVUYox39bHmi1GJt3D4aF/mP3OzA+qWgmqc6qXt3DIexkXO5Pa8MTJr Mi4Oog1c8DZVOH7KuraNH2FHFjJQsOtRBQOSkqyus8BwCd0RK4ob6cPeAuRxPrCAoDm 16L0xNW8PAZy0vlH5fk82noo= From: Kent Stewart To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Pieter Donche Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:25:41 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903020725.41765.kstewart@owt.com> Cc: Subject: Re: port / portupgrade hangs X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:38:59 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 06:54:21 am Pieter Donche wrote: > Sometimes (not often) when installing ports from the ports collection or > upgrading ports (via portupgrade -R) when fetching some needed tar.gz > file, the fetch hangs, just like now: > > => rdiff-backup-1.2.6.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in > /usr/ports/distfiles/. > => Attempting to fetch from > http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/rdiff-backup/. > fetch: > http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/rdiff-backup/rdiff-backup-1.2.6.t >ar.gz: Moved Temporarily > => Attempting to fetch from > http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/. > rdiff-backup-1.2.6.tar.gz 43% of 191 kB 107 kBps > > This is now immobile for over an hour ... > > Up to now when such a hang occured, I just waited and waited and > eventually it would continue and finish the job. > > But, is there a safe way to do a retry? > I dare not just do a Ctrl-C and issue > # portupgrade -R rdiff-backup > again, since I have no no clue what could go wrong if one does that ... > > Or is it save to do Ctrl-C and try again? It should be safe to do the Ctrl-c. You are doing a fetch. What can go wrong? If you only have a partial distfile, and portupgrade can't handle that, at the worst, you cd /usr/ports/distfiles, remove the partial file, and try again. Things only get messy if you kill a job during an install. Since nothing has been added to the port database, you can probably just install it again. I did a portupgrade -FN rdiff-backup-1.2.6,1 and was able to download the distfile. I only saw 18KBps, which I assume means there are a other people doing a fetch from that site. Kent -- kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 15:56:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C33110656C3 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE54B8FC1B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:55:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n22Fr307056203; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:53:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n22Fr3JI056202; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:53:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:53:03 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: gahn Message-ID: <20090302155303.GA56093@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <798008.8114.qm@web52107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: rc.conf and starting scripts X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:56:00 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:14:17PM -0800, gahn wrote: > > Hi all: > > I have some starting scripts under some other directories other > than /etc/rc.d. How could I utilize the rc.conf file to start them > when the system boots up? > > The default location for rc.conf is /etc/rc.d only and the > knob "local_startup=/usr/local/etc/rc.d" doesn't seem to be working > for me for some reasons The way the question is put implies some possible misunderstanding about how rc.conf works. /etc/rc.conf itself is not executed. It is read up by the various scripts in etc/rc.d and /usr/local/etc/rc.d to get values for constants that are defined there. Some of those constants are things like linux_enable="YES" or lpd_enable="YES" or hostname="fred.cheeze.org" and many other possible things. the /etc/rc.conf files does nothing active. It just sets there like a bunch of passive data waiting to be looked at. The rc system goes through the rc.d directories and, according to its rules checks the script files in those directories and executes those scripts that merit execution in an order determined by its protocol. It used to be strictly alphabetical, but is more sophisticated now. See man rc and man rcorder. The scripts read up /etc/rc.conf and check for constants that interest them, such as one to enable or run something. If the file name ends in 'd', the convention is that it is a daemon. But other things could be run to check stuff or set up some files, or whatever. Besides telling a script to run or exit without doing anything, the constants also set conditions for things, such as that hostname setting. But, it is up to the scripts - most or all in one of the rc.d directories - to do anything about what is in /etc/rc.conf. Just putting something in the rc.conf file does nothing. One or more of the scripts are what looks for the stuff you put in rc.conf and does/do all the work. The scripts in the rc.d directories have to have execute permission. There is a protocol set up for them to determine at which point in the boot process they run (most can also be run manually after the system is up, though doing them out of order can produce unpleasant results in some cases). So, put your script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Include the appropriate protocol in the script (see man rc.d, man rc.conf and other related man pages) and make sure it reads /etc/rc.conf if it needs constants set or needs to decide whether or not to start something. ////jerry > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 16:09:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91745106566B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from imedmobility.com (host-50.216-16-29.iw.net [216.16.29.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C2888FC1F for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:09:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amvandemore@gmail.com) Received: from midco.net (host-47-73-107-208.midco.net [208.107.73.47]) by imedmobility.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 603B21173C6B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:09:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <49AC048B.7000109@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:08:43 -0600 From: Adam Vande More User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081225) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: FreeBSD Questions References: <200903020828.n228SAN7080657@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <200903020935.n229ZXXo090477@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <49ABE3B8.1010801@gmail.com> <49ABE795.1070306@gmail.com> <49ABECF1.9070900@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Bridging-(How to test and verify that bridging is enabled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:09:14 -0000 Faizan ul haq Muhammad wrote: > > > > > > > i noted that, following information is missing > > > member: sk0 flags=143 > > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 1 priority 128 path cost 2000000 > > > member: sk1 flags=143 > > > ifmaxaddr 0 port 2 priority 128 path cost 200000 > > > > > > Now i need to know how to add the interfaces..? > > > Any command do u knw and can help me..? > > > > > > Regards!!! > > > > > > > > > ifconfig bridge0 addm sk0 addm sk1 up > > ifconfig sk0 up > > ifconfig sk1 up > > Thanks a lot dear.. > it worked. but i m still confused that i have the alternative > configuration in rc.conf as per guideline here on this page: > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/network-bridging.html > it should have worked, but it did not. and here with these commands, > it is working.. I am able to get reply to ping > Make sure you got the full config in there adjusted to your settings: cloned_interfaces="bridge0" ifconfig_bridge0="addm fxp0 addm fxp1 up" ifconfig_fxp0="up" ifconfig_fxp1="up" And that you've rebooted. Assuming you've done those steps correctly, it should work. Generally issue's like that are rooted in typo's and misconfigurations. As your typo count gets incremented, you will learn humility. ;) Least that's how it was for me. Another good rule of thumb is if you're following the handbook and it's still doesn't work then you're not following the handbook. Glad it works for you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 16:20:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563F5106568D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:20:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A67B8FC17 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:20:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n22GKlKq054396; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:20:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n22GKk6u054393; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:20:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:20:46 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: lacalling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to repeat playing mp3 with mpg123 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:20:56 -0000 > I tried bash like this > for((;;)) > do > mpg123 [mp3] & > done > but it keeps running new mpg123 in background . while true;do mpg123 filename;done From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 17:06:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A9B106573D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from ey-out-2122.google.com (ey-out-2122.google.com [74.125.78.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCF58FC1B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:06:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id d26so400660eyd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:06:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dxdsIw0cl1dMtHj2+nOk9whykflvQzTXydbt8aGQrkQ=; b=lUIftyCXK2U2V3fTsI1CM3FFXUP2FL2AYPz+SE6Im8lYEKssfT4NPoj8GbXDW0a/cX rknXg2jhgQwJxSYfq58lvfY1pWUBIoUn/zGACqtkiA6jGBimPmJPkUOnqS8X1ILK+un5 yCOmH23X99G+hiPYv5rJmS07xjop7v+u2IdSs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NmM7arpdXRJQzGMSAB0Jnm+v7VUj+vGh1eyitQlcnZ4/Mvh/XQKUaERJHw5SSnN8r+ WINX2cR65N49NjP7G+T7JeO28zHY5rTchsQMiBxnTwxCzwOFumeqrWt2JIwJ2qbDwuR/ Qen3xunY11Y3bAAFykk+WIAtxlw4bPPum8Iaw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.65.2 with SMTP id n2mr3385811eba.26.1236013608656; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:06:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <508fd0770903020130i734276d7o25c64493e9d3b5ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <508fd0770902280049y1f31721fp306f1fc65383f76c@mail.gmail.com> <508fd0770903012329l44b8852atbd44b4c2a87f12ee@mail.gmail.com> <508fd0770903020130i734276d7o25c64493e9d3b5ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:06:48 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: RAMASUBRAMANIAN VENKITESWARAN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: Regarding DVD/CD request X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:06:52 -0000 2009/3/2 RAMASUBRAMANIAN VENKITESWARAN : > SIr, > =A0 =A0 Thank You very much > Ah, meant to ask you. Do you want the 32-bit version or the 64-bit? If you want to use accelerated graphics, Java, or flash you're better off with the 32-bit version. If you're happy with the 32-bit version (should be fine for anything really) I'll send you FreeBSD-7.1-RELEASE. Chris --=20 R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 17:36:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36C5106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 760948FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:36:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeC4F-0003FI-Fd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:36:39 -0800 Message-ID: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:36:39 -0800 (PST) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com Subject: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:36:40 -0000 Hi, We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the install. Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar method to installation? Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22292723.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 17:40:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E15110657CA for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12C48FC1B for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2044331fxm.43 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:40:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q15mm9wAgKj540kxBpIffMIJgj2GQa+Y33m5YlItm58=; b=FlF1D44zaXrvZyiwqYHPUpOrxCl7m70/fQLfakKwwI5IeZfMcRX5OcmupC1DABb64T FymkWKY2ZsfVxzQ7nbl1fy5flGIE2KF0JwcKRAgQwYQCosaHz+2V6gaLDo6Y64FzbmA/ GktzRVCVy/R3+ijsEbCHnql8/w3A8qL944gwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UWy1rfN+Y5kwVMONj0aKnKFb10YTyrIECcXDLbHlm5XGp4JkO1/GJRZdlld3NqiFm1 VcTslvUKlHtlh+C9D5QeL6ZUowmPPp32GbIPx93RvJ8zHJPXVbuEpbTR6VPGz/8UpBTU g9CajcmV0XAlBEq/rSJ4F9RsH5hXfPJJCHuAU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.5.14 with SMTP id h14mr3035255mui.108.1236013709383; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:08:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49ABA560.8050308@gmail.com> References: <49ABA560.8050308@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:08:29 -0700 Message-ID: <64c038660903020908k285b3cbcr4dd810a51a94dcec@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd general questions Subject: Re: OT: what is the X11 equiv of /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:40:23 -0000 >> I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target the X11 equiv of /dev/null ? ...what? What problem are you trying to solve, exactly? -Modulok- On 3/2/09, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > I often want to run applications from my PC (actually the dual boot > partition on my desktop 7.1) on one of the X11 capable 7.1 machine at > work (identical configs except for dual booting) and want to be able to > open applications (like deluge) on the work machine that require a X11 > server... I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target > the X11 equiv of /dev/null ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 17:47:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7D11065677 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653508FC1D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:47:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (pc-fa-vieira.critical.pt [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20AA2283D3; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:47:39 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:47:47 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: new_guy References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:47:42 -0000 new_guy wrote: > Hi, > > We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. > Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by > downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the install. > Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar method to > installation? > > Thanks! As far as I know OpenBSD advises on binary upgrades so I'd say you're probably looking for freebsd-update as it provides binary updates. This utility is great for binary updates to both kernel and world. Do take a look at FreeBSD's Handbook. To update third party applications e.g. ports read this: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/ports.html If you want to compile a custom kernel: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html Update and upgrade methods are described here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading.html Have fun, Ricardo Jesus. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 17:55:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049F71065673 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:55:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C844A8FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:55:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeCMd-000472-Of for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:55:39 -0800 Message-ID: <22293187.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:55:39 -0800 (PST) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20090301183715.5b1571db@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com References: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090301183715.5b1571db@gumby.homeunix.com> Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:55:41 -0000 RW-15 wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:50 +0000 > Frank Shute wrote: > >> pdksh is statically linked and I don't know if bash is. > > It's a build option. > > Seems root should have a static shell always... otherwise, all bets are off as some of the shared libs may be inaccessible or damaged. So long as bash is statically linked and properly located, there should not be an issue. But most folks (linux users) aren't aware of the implications of dynamic linking and such. So it's probably best to 'just say no' to the OP's question. Leave root's shell alone unless you know what you're doing and bash is built appropriately. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Root-shell-tp22274005p22293187.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:02:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029081065680 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:02:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AC18FC25 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:02:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeCTB-0004g4-99 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:02:25 -0800 Message-ID: <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:02:25 -0800 (PST) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:02:26 -0000 You misunderstand. I want to install FreeBSD from a ramdisk image (bsd.rd). Is that possible? It's basically a small kernel that boots the machine, formats the hard drive, setups root and installs the operating system over ftp. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22293310.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:15:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38D01065692 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4E98FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:15:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n22ICiIf056767; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n22ICiGc056766; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:44 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: new_guy Message-ID: <20090302181244.GA56706@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:15:42 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:36:39AM -0800, new_guy wrote: > > Hi, > > We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. > Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by > downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the install. > Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar method to > installation? Hmmm. Having a CD drive makes it so easy. It might be worthwhile to run out and get an external one you can plug in. Installs can also be done from a pair of floppies if you have a floppy drive. The floppy just has the boot and sysinstall stuff. Everything else downloads over the net or can be loaded on some other media such as tape or external disk and installed from there. You can create almost any kind of media if you can make it bootable and put stuff on it and boot from it and bring up sysinstall. But, I do not think you can put that on the slice you want to install to and then do a complete install there. Now, if you have FreeBSD running, you can upgrade it in place. Update and csup are all useful tools to learn for that. But, an initial install wants to be on some media other than where it will be installed. That is mostly because you build your disk filesystem as part of the installation. ////jerry > > Thanks! > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22292723.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:16:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C03C1065680 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:16:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F3D8FC26 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:16:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n22IE0R4056782; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:14:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n22IE02S056781; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:14:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:14:00 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: new_guy Message-ID: <20090302181400.GB56706@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090301161650.GB15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090301183715.5b1571db@gumby.homeunix.com> <22293187.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22293187.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:16:59 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:55:39AM -0800, new_guy wrote: > > > RW-15 wrote: > > > > On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:16:50 +0000 > > Frank Shute wrote: > > > >> pdksh is statically linked and I don't know if bash is. > > > > It's a build option. > > > > > > Seems root should have a static shell always... otherwise, all bets are off > as some of the shared libs may be inaccessible or damaged. So long as bash > is statically linked and properly located, there should not be an issue. But > most folks (linux users) aren't aware of the implications of dynamic linking > and such. So it's probably best to 'just say no' to the OP's question. Leave > root's shell alone unless you know what you're doing and bash is built > appropriately. Well put. ////jerry > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Root-shell-tp22274005p22293187.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:19:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287EF10656C4 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1CA88FC16 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (pc-fa-vieira.critical.pt [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB10F228407; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:19:49 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49AC234D.9040403@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:19:57 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: new_guy References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:19:53 -0000 new_guy wrote: > You misunderstand. I want to install FreeBSD from a ramdisk image (bsd.rd). > Is that possible? It's basically a small kernel that boots the machine, > formats the hard drive, setups root and installs the operating system over > ftp. > If that's what you want I definitely misunderstood. Maybe someone of the list can give a hand and help you out. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:24:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291991065688 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:24:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFDEE8FC21 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so835657fgb.35 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:24:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BqjEqjF626odCXhzHUzr8uXo+XIg+43JBIJ/ZpaqQyE=; b=H1p1TzTnu0aK8QHeKR7EfXYShn/dCOa+4ezTVo5UaVEzN0adqa4V1N7WjeDcbeUWwi U6tJvqxa7eKW7ne9b8bxGMDumOF6AKyV3ucOpf5kYtZF4bKZTi33ozhqtnRyIdzlsuIp wTGosBKmZNqjFG/k81UpN+MrFS6sGcKtX2MLs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=SG7hM/4QctFIB1aUrSMcS/rBVcfu+oQ5Aco7DnPHP+CcqUUsAlKJ3jNhFCr6KO9+F4 Qd6wpFEUxDHXqd6sSKuOigIcX3mRToK1TBpcltfE0pssex3FDH+yOuokAj0fatlbE0O1 OVv45hDg6a6PcwfsnPd4S0Gd4xD7fJnDI05Ac= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.53.8 with SMTP id b8mr6992645fga.58.1236018241589; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:24:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:24:01 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0903021024q54225574hc36661eaa29a057@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: load average and some built-in monitoring mechanism X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:24:03 -0000 Hi there, My machine has recently been taken down by (most likely) runaway java process. The box had to be rebooted as there was no remote access to it but I am not able to find anything useful in logs to confirm whether it was java. Is there a tool that would enable me to automatically turn on verbose logging of top processes to some file once the load average is greater than the specified value? This way, once the storm is over, I would be able to see which process(es) went nuts. I guess a tool like that may simply already exist in which case I'd appreciate links/more information. How are you dealing with such issues when/if they happen to you? Many thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:28:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72672106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:28:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB0B8FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n22IPWgH056860; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n22IPWw3056859; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:32 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com Message-ID: <20090302182532.GD56706@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> <49AC234D.9040403@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AC234D.9040403@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: new_guy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:28:32 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 06:19:57PM +0000, Ricardo Jesus wrote: > new_guy wrote: > >You misunderstand. I want to install FreeBSD from a ramdisk image (bsd.rd). > >Is that possible? It's basically a small kernel that boots the machine, > >formats the hard drive, setups root and installs the operating system over > >ftp. > > > If that's what you want I definitely misunderstood. Maybe someone of the > list can give a hand and help you out. Wel, that is what a fixit image is - a boot to a ramdisk image. They call it md (memory disk) in FreeBSD land. Check man pages and some more stuff online at various sources. The only problem is that I don't know if the fixit includes sysinstall. You could try it. I would guess that the install image is build in memory too and runs from there rather than from the CD. So, it should be possible with some tinkering - if you have enough memory to run a sysinstall completely from memory. You would then pretty much need to do an install over the net - which you would probably do anyway. So, your big problem, if that works, is figuring out how to create that image booted in to the memory disk without some external media to start it with. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:33:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC1B10656FA for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CD58FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n22IUVxC056888; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:30:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n22IUVvb056887; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:30:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:30:31 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: new_guy Message-ID: <20090302183031.GE56706@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:33:30 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:02:25AM -0800, new_guy wrote: > > You misunderstand. I want to install FreeBSD from a ramdisk image (bsd.rd). That is called md (memory disk) in FreeBSD land. > Is that possible? It's basically a small kernel that boots the machine, > formats the hard drive, setups root and installs the operating system over > ftp. That is what sysinstall is, plus the boot. It is a program that builds the filesystems, sets up the system and loads everything on the disk. The big problem is how to boot and bring it up without any external media. I think some people have done it from network and second Hard drive boots as well as floppy and CD boots. ////jerry > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22293310.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:35:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6109F1065780 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABD28FC13 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:35:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B048C50944; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:35:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91EC750877; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:35:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AC26E5.9060805@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:35:17 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <49AA6060.60604@webrz.net> <49AA6302.2000408@gmail.com> <49AA850A.6020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49AA850A.6020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: MySQL / php differ X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:35:14 -0000 Matthew Seaman wrote: > Actually, you may only need to recompile databases/php5-mysql > (possibly plus some dependencies) and then restart apache. If your DB > is on the same machine as where you're running phpMyAdmin, then you > will have the 5.0.77 client libraries already installed and > recompiling that one package should fix the observed problem. > thanks, I will try as Areyeh's solution unfortunately didn't solve the problem. Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:37:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09A510657E9 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625A98FC23 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:37:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22IbdBW044771; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:37:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8E7BDBA8C; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:37:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:37:39 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Tsu-Fan Cheng Message-ID: <20090302183739.GB89715@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:37:44 -0000 --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > Hi all, > I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it > over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't > read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility > that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! Macs use GUID partition tables. These are supported by the GENERIC FreeBSD kernel (at least in 7.1). You'll need the gpt(8) program to make them. The following link is a kind of HOWTO: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-1305.html Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmsJ3MACgkQEnfvsMMhpyUQmgCfV25bOdhWjc9IvQjCM8vrmfNa P3UAoK1q/7puEFllwM9cVlNM/am9L9JH =y0a/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/WwmFnJnmDyWGHa4-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:44:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8501065987 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:44:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240958FC1E for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (pc-fa-vieira.critical.pt [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22473228431; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:44:12 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49AC2904.1070309@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:44:20 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <49AC1BC3.8050107@gmail.com> <22293310.post@talk.nabble.com> <20090302183031.GE56706@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090302183031.GE56706@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: new_guy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:44:22 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:02:25AM -0800, new_guy wrote: > >> You misunderstand. I want to install FreeBSD from a ramdisk image (bsd.rd). > > That is called md (memory disk) in FreeBSD land. > >> Is that possible? It's basically a small kernel that boots the machine, >> formats the hard drive, setups root and installs the operating system over >> ftp. > > That is what sysinstall is, plus the boot. It is a program that > builds the filesystems, sets up the system and loads everything on > the disk. The big problem is how to boot and bring it up without > any external media. I think some people have done it from network > and second Hard drive boots as well as floppy and CD boots. > > ////jerry > >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22293310.html >> Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > One approach could be using an existing install like described here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/article.html Or even going the nanoBSD way: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/nanobsd/article.html But this defeats the OP's originial intent, e.g., ramdisk From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:49:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B3B106567A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:49:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 105E28FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:49:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d21so321374nfb.33 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:48:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sfzj+e4zn2OkC7gG04itzxS5l6si+Os7rDYQk4vWpjQ=; b=OYJ0ERb163n8R+90GcWO1BAZDSZvuIj0GEGn/QrZDDtXxcrDYvoxX9ZNe5k6fnUC+u 3DlG8kORXHsrOoOtjDLFyeH3lBVQJVglpOfnTtOp/1eWSG8QvgDqyokJYNtiaHFyGiFN yp5tWjwJIS4LjOLIPUnQHwt8MWSuqjCXXW/jI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KTdNa0eKlpimkEFS3w1FyUJFukL6rd4hcpKj8nrM0JCK3uu+AiU76nnOAFauEEVbN0 kVXiR47gkjsrByFZk8QRVdqrVOFDrJaDF/B5YWCMLN/jnq9se8E5FnmttNaEEhp2b/L6 OGDyS5fys/7/b3QN6Lt/bX6ldwVl1WVCphxIs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.88.3 with SMTP id l3mr3669094ebb.11.1236019739765; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:48:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <110F293A-E09B-40D2-9B8C-38E1D8C6D1B2@gmail.com> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <49A98FE5.7000404@hotmail.com> <49A9A52C.2010507@bah.homeip.net> <49A9ACBC.30506@bah.homeip.net> <49AB98C2.80900@bah.homeip.net> <110F293A-E09B-40D2-9B8C-38E1D8C6D1B2@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:48:59 +0000 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: bernt@bah.homeip.net, FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: utisoft@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:49:02 -0000 2009/3/2 Julian Wissmann : > Oh, that didn't go to the list, did it. > I should actually read where I send stuff to, well, anyway. > > Suse was bought by Novell a while back as you probably know, but as far a= s I > know the Suse team still is located in Nuernberg over here in Germany. > They're programmers/geeks whichever you prefer to call it, not lawyers. > So chances are they didn't know about this either when they started out, = but > considering that Yast was closed source for a while they probably found o= ut > soon. > > > Am 02.03.2009 um 09:28 schrieb Bernt Hansson: > >> Julian Wissmann skrev: >>> >>> An EULA actually in nearly all European Countries and probably most >>> other countries in the World is not binding. >> >> That's my point. An EULA is just, that. An EULA. >> >>> Even in the US it is not >>> quite clear if an EULA is a valid license agreement. >> >> Can't comment on that. >> >>> Also EULAs and >>> many Licenses actually only apply to US Law, so basically they're not >>> worth anything anywhere else. >> >> Yes. US law apply to us only. >> >>> You couldn't enforce a GPL in Germany or >>> some other european countries for example, because it is built atop >>> another legal system with different ideas of how things work. >> >> Interesting! Suse comes to mind, but is suse linux still based in german= y? >> >>> Same >>> thing applies to EULAs. I read a very interesting article on German iX >>> magazine recently wich was covering this. Don't have access to it >>> right now though cause I'm on a trip home, so I can't really say much >>> more about it, but if you want specific details I can post them in a >>> bout a week. >> >> Take your time. This kind of discussion's come and go. >> >> >> >>> >>> Am 28.02.2009 um 22:29 schrieb Bernt Hansson: >>> >>>> Chris Rees skrev: >>>>> >>>>> 2009/2/28 Bernt Hansson : >>>>>> >>>>>> Lord Blackadder skrev: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sean Cavanaugh skrev: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry to disappoint you, Bernt, but under Swedish law any >>>>>>> kind of >>>>>>> agreement is legally binding. Even just a handshake. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes. But clicking yes or no is not a handshake or oral agreement >>>>>> acording to Swedish law. >>>> >>>>> Again, back it up? You're just expecting us to believe your >>>>> interpretation of the law. >>>> >>>> Who's interpretation are you in comfort with? Your own? Sombody >>>> else, a >>>> lawyer? A pornstar? >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >>>> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >>>> " >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Varning! E-post till och fr=E5n Sverige, eller som passerar servrar i >> Sverige, avlyssnas av F=F6rsvarets Radioanstalt, FRA. >> >> WARNING! E-mail to and from Sweden, or via servers in Sweden, is >> monitored by the National Defence Radio Establishment. > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > In all fairness, you are posting on a mailing list about software originating in the US, written in English, with the original post being a guy from India, and the disputed one being made from a guy in Spain. How is Swedish law relevant to this discussion, whether it says what you claim or not? Chris --=20 R< $&h ! > $- ! $+ $@ $2 < @ $1 .UUCP. > (sendmail.cf) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 18:52:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C41065710 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1298FC14 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:52:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd6ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.163]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2009 11:52:59 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=7_iz1KXIDnG5xs21eBwA:9 a=kbW99dCB2WIk3C8ces0X6zHMwLEA:4 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd6ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2009 11:52:58 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6806C17060 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:52:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:52:58 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:53:01 -0000 i'm trying to install fbsd71 on a ibm thinkpad i1200 via cdrom. it boots fine from the cd, but then when i choose cd for media it says No CD/DVD devices found! huh?? how so? what can be done? (i can install through nfs so it is not a lost cause by any means, but what's going on here?) -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:07:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59B481065692 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:07:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13BCD8FC18 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:07:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8D050865; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:07:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D35550858; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:07:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AC2E6A.8000303@webrz.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:07:22 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <49AA6060.60604@webrz.net> <49AA6302.2000408@gmail.com> <49AA850A.6020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49AA850A.6020105@infracaninophile.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: MySQL / php differ | Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:07:20 -0000 Problem solved. What I did is: - using Matthew's pkg_info -rx php5-mysql - after that Aryeh's solution on the php5-mysql port thanks for your help, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:13:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B3C106568F for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:13:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 290618FC1C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:13:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n22JAgpJ057050; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n22JAgS9057049; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:42 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Jerry McAllister Subject: backup msdos slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:13:40 -0000 Hi, I hate to start this potential storm, but... I have a machine with both an MS and FreeBSD slices on it. I can easily back up and recover the FreeBSD slices using dump(8)/restore(8) But, that won't work for the MS slice (which happens to be FAT32 on this machine) because there is no superblock and inode structure. So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do using restore on a dump file. I suspect that tar might not keep enough meta information to be right for this job. Is that a valid concern? Recovered files should still work in MS-Win. Is there anything worthwhile out there that can do this and not go through some the rigamarole that some MS backup systems seem to want to put one through? Basically, I want to back up the MSDOS slice (I know MS calls it a primary partition) from the FreeBSD side of things. I can read and write the slice nicely from FreeBSD, but not dump/restore. I would appreciate any suggestions. ////jerry From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:20:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59C1106597D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:20:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smallhand@crawblog.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8BA8FC19 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:20:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smallhand@crawblog.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2063269qwe.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:20:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.83.138 with SMTP id f10mr3374185qcl.17.1236021635659; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:20:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200903020235.07985.pieter@degoeje.nl> References: <919383240903011504r52936d5y9ce45977ded15826@mail.gmail.com> <200903020235.07985.pieter@degoeje.nl> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:20:35 -0600 Message-ID: <919383240903021120m68bb889fh56154721a87ee86@mail.gmail.com> From: Edward Ruggeri To: Pieter de Goeje Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux binary wants GLIBC_2.4, GLIBCXX_3.4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:20:44 -0000 Thanks very much! Will this actually change behavior of the Linux kernel module, or is it just supposed to trick new versions of linux_base to build? -- Ned Ruggeri On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > On Monday 02 March 2009, Edward Ruggeri wrote: >> I am using FreeBSD 7.0 Stable. =A0I want to run the Linguistica project >> Linux binary. =A0However, after loading the Linux kernel module, when I >> try to run the binary the system replies: >> >> ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not >> found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) >> ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version >> `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) >> >> Besides asking the Linguistica developers whether they actually must >> require such recent versions of the GNU C, C++ libraries, I tried to >> install a more recent linux_base. =A0However, everything beyond >> linux_base-fc4 does not support Linux kernel 2.4.2. >> >> Is there a module for a newer version of the linux kernel that I can >> build so as to install a newer linux_base? =A0Or is there a way to use >> the same 2.4.2 module but use more recent GNU C libraries? =A0I am not >> an expert in this area; is there something I haven't thought of? > > You can "upgrade" the linux compatibility layer by setting the sysctl: > > =A0compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.6.18 > > For example in /etc/sysctl.conf. Then you should be able to install a new= er > version of linux_base. > > -- > Pieter de Goeje > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:25:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56441065A05 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=305fc59d5@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811B28FC1A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:25:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=305fc59d5@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,290,1233554400"; d="scan'208";a="7262327" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2009 12:57:21 -0600 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 431A48945 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:57:21 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:57:21 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Subject: Anyone know SunFire hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:25:50 -0000 We have FreeBSD installed on a SunFire box running two AMD Opteron processors. I was upgrading to 7.1 STABLE on Friday, and after installing the kernel I rebooted. Now the box is completely unusable. Does anyone know how to get a SunFire box to boot from the CD ROM? Any changes I make to the BIOS seem to be completely ignored. When I get to the FreeBSD boot loader, I lose keyboard, so I can't even go to single user mode. Not being able to boot off the CD is a royal pita. I've done some Googling, and the most common answer seems to be "hit STOP+A", but there is no STOP key on an Intel keyboard. Is there a magic incantation that will work? Maybe the entrails of a young goat? -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:38:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A40D1065C8D for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:38:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC498FC1A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:38:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n22JbxLq054880; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:37:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n22JbxCK054877; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:37:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:37:59 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Jerry In-Reply-To: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Message-ID: References: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: backup msdos slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:38:12 -0000 > > So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice > to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that > I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do > using restore on a dump file. I suspect that tar might not > keep enough meta information to be right for this job. Is that > a valid concern? Recovered files should still work in MS-Win. only tar i think From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:43:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C426F106599F for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@windstream.net) Received: from ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net (ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672318FC17 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:43:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@windstream.net) Received: from ispmxaamta05-gx.windstream.net ([67.206.60.171]) by ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20090302192541.HTSY21050.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@ispmxaamta05-gx.windstream.net> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:41 -0600 Received: from ext-b14-171.omhq.uprr.com ([67.206.60.171]) by ispmxaamta05-gx.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20090302192541.HUJK4102.ispmxaamta05-gx.windstream.net@ext-b14-171.omhq.uprr.com> for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:41 -0600 From: Tyson Boellstorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:36 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903021325.36211.perlcat@windstream.net> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tKWQxE5K+cbbCdjCI5hqog==:17 a=KI3TXxjDDf5BZdhjI8UA:9 a=poVD2vJHSCx0yYD-Ee92xcMP90AA:4 a=LY0hPdMaydYA:10 Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:43:28 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 12:52:58 prad wrote: > i'm trying to install fbsd71 on a ibm thinkpad i1200 via cdrom. > > it boots fine from the cd, but then when i choose cd for media it says > No CD/DVD devices found! > > huh?? how so? > what can be done? > (i can install through nfs so it is not a lost cause by any means, but > what's going on here?) I did. I am in ur howse steelin ur 1's. perlcat. srsly, what does dmesg and /dev say? CD's can be mounted through the USB bus or a different bus. My guess is that your CD isn't connected internally via PCI, and you're just missing a driver. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 19:46:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE65D10656F1 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:46:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686248FC1F for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2059495bwz.43 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:46:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SR6KPUke7Pyn5l8MD8t8s7LH0vt0dHWNIp0JjBsIudw=; b=nzNsgHG04h/vH9t42zxqLT3j1u/LfQCWxVte78auuSoZXiXpNR4f2/moGX2L31d+oa 5VAgdDGBcSlILK1Bg6T0Goh079lKioUEHRG/e4z7cfm0N7wBhWyuDSc4BZ7Mk+xQ4YyG OEYUNrnGvQ8n+CJLsRlxJJb94O/FUIaSgI7vM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RdFYKtfdbvcblegAUBYoNttNj/TiTZxekN+xlCJUEZ5RVGwnQRC4qQjd1APAaaZAMo diwH7Zr1c8iv4A0NgpHdUacrA9EIosKPSDT9vKCRDm/Nl6Q01jSBqR9gh9RT3FKg2C98 lJhzM/9YiRevrLihdDgTEekkN1F5sCFYyw3Uo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.114.74 with SMTP id d10mr6278491faq.87.1236023187971; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:46:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903021146j30cd2dby4a644362b4420d11@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: prad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions @ freebsd. org" Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:46:30 -0000 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM, prad wrote: > i'm trying to install fbsd71 on a ibm thinkpad i1200 via cdrom. > > it boots fine from the cd, but then when i choose cd for media it says > No CD/DVD devices found! > > huh?? how so? > what can be done? > (i can install through nfs so it is not a lost cause by any means, but > what's going on here?) > Try the atapicam kernel module. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 20:30:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A175810656D7 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:30:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D2B38FC28 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:30:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n22KUHZo090113; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:30:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 171BABA8D; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:30:17 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:30:17 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Jerry Message-ID: <20090302203017.GB92315@slackbox.xs4all.nl> References: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: backup msdos slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:30:20 -0000 --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 02:10:42PM -0500, Jerry wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I hate to start this potential storm, but... >=20 > I have a machine with both an MS and FreeBSD slices on it. > I can easily back up and recover the FreeBSD slices using dump(8)/restore= (8) > But, that won't work for the MS slice (which happens to be FAT32 on this > machine) because there is no superblock and inode structure. >=20 > So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice > to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that > I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do > using restore on a dump file. =20 > I suspect that tar might not keep enough meta information to be right > for this job. Is that a valid concern? Just mount the FAT32 fs, and use any achiver you like, e.g. zip, tar, cpio. All can save all metadata that FAT32 has. If you use zip, you can even use winzip on windows to extract files from it, if that is important to you. Some time ago I wrote a utility called dosrestore (available on my website) that could extract files from backup floppies made with MS-DOS 5 or thereabouts. I haven't tested it beyond my own backup floppies, though. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkmsQdgACgkQEnfvsMMhpyWPEgCfflYSqZdMZkt8NAFsY4RXEQna Hf4AnicLAK19rAmG2kSjOaRwznfBzoM4 =CCQT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UHN/qo2QbUvPLonB-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 21:25:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837641065673 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:25:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9C98FC15 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:25:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12699336A2; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:25:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:25:39 +0100 From: cpghost To: lacalling Message-ID: <20090302212539.GA46243@phenom.cordula.ws> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to repeat playing mp3 with mpg123 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:25:39 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:55:29PM +0800, lacalling wrote: > Since mpg123 does not support repeat model, i tried to write a script to > play mp3 repeatedly. > > I tried bash like this > for((;;)) > do > mpg123 [mp3] & > done > but it keeps running new mpg123 in background . You asked for it to run in the background (with '&'). In fact, you're spawning many mpg123 processes here... > but mpg123 [mp3] in foreground cant be terminated by control C Not too familiar with mpg123 (I'm using mplayer), but in such close loops, Ctrl-C usually works, but not as intended: it stops one mpg123 process (unless mpg123 sets its signal mask in such a way as to block or ignore SIGINT?), but the next one resumes almost immediately thereafter. To Ctrl-C the loop itself is not easy, because the time slice between the end of one mpg123 process and the start of the next one (when the shell is in the foreground) is pretty tiny. Try adding a 'sleep 1' or something like that after mpg123, and it will be easier. > Could anyone provide more ideas. > thank you. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 22:06:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0322B106564A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from kuber.nabble.com (kuber.nabble.com [216.139.236.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C668FC14 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bounces@nabble.com) Received: from isper.nabble.com ([192.168.236.156]) by kuber.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeGH5-000807-1E for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:06:11 -0800 Message-ID: <22297874.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:06:11 -0800 (PST) From: new_guy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-From: byte8bits@gmail.com References: Subject: Re: Anyone know SunFire hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:06:12 -0000 Paul Schmehl-2 wrote: > > I've done some Googling, and the most common answer seems to be "hit > STOP+A", > but there is no STOP key on an Intel keyboard. Is there a magic > incantation > that will work? Maybe the entrails of a young goat? > Ctrl + Break I'm sticking with OpenBSD... BTW. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Anyone-know-SunFire-hardware-tp22294904p22297874.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 22:28:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18951065815 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640AB8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:28:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n22MRg2J037106; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:28:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jGL3yPs1tCsf; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:28:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n22MSEi2038483; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:28:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <49AC5D7E.8040208@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:28:14 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Modulok References: <49ABA560.8050308@gmail.com> <64c038660903020908k285b3cbcr4dd810a51a94dcec@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <64c038660903020908k285b3cbcr4dd810a51a94dcec@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "Aryeh M. Friedman" , freebsd general questions Subject: Re: OT: what is the X11 equiv of /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:28:55 -0000 Modulok wrote: >>> I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target the X11 equiv of /dev/null ? > > ...what? What problem are you trying to solve, exactly? > -Modulok- I'd have to assume he wants to call a remote X program from his terminal and not have the program's output clutter it up. My usual workaround is: 1. "xterm &" in Terminal one. 2. "appname &" in the new Xterm, then CTL-D. I also have a couple of buttons in XFCE that simply call "ssh $somehost $someapp". I've no idea where it puts the stderror/stdout, but I never see it. Kevin Kinsey -- Surely you cant be serious." "I am serious, and dont call me Shirley. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 23:22:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F5F10656FB for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C46E8FC15 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:22:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd6ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.160]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2009 16:22:14 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=tcVhz_NQvo-dNx6RqY4A:9 a=zPChD4dAx0-DzAei7l8A:7 a=mavpXkamfO_BrfN4ygyg0OeCxIMA:4 a=LMLaTN543VoA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=TlnOPt13aEMA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd6ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 02 Mar 2009 16:22:13 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988F21701E for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:22:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:22:13 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090302152213.703cfcbd@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903021146j30cd2dby4a644362b4420d11@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> <4ad871310903021146j30cd2dby4a644362b4420d11@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:22:15 -0000 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 Glen Barber wrote: > Try the atapicam kernel module. > i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did boot atapicam but got elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i load atapicam then it just boots acpi.ko On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:25:36 -0600 Tyson Boellstorff wrote: > I did. > > I am in ur howse steelin ur 1's. > i will count the cats we have. if catcount == catcount + 1: print "perlous catastrophe" -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 23:31:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1095010656C0 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB758FC0C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n22NVDF4082125 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:31:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n22NVCCk074761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:31:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n22NVBmP074705; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:31:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:31:11 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: Michael Powell Message-ID: <20090302233111.GB78542@dan.emsphone.com> References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> <49AA5D4C.3070901@gmail.com> <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FB@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:31:13 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:31:15 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 01), Michael Powell said: > m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: > > thanks ... but ... how? > > now I don't get the first message; but the second tells me that a library > > is missing, but it is present. anyway I' prepared a very simple > > /etc/libmap.conf like this: > > > > # /etc/libmap.conf > > # > > # candidate mapping > > # > > libc.so.6 /usr/compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 > > Change to: > > libc.so.6 libc.so.7 No, definitely do not do this. The version of a shared library is bumped when incompatible changes are made. If libc.so.7 was compatible with libc.so.6, why wasn't it called libc.so.6? :) libmap.conf is only meant to exchange ABI-compatible libraries (primarily the older threads libraries libc_r, libthr, and libpthread). You want to install the compat6x port, which will install FreeBSD 6.x libraries, including libc.so.6. -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 23:40:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8F5106566C for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:40:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E811E8FC22 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:40:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so2562157wfd.7 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:40:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nnxYYHdqwVNfUKU2Rbt88o5WrRnsUcLq9uzo4i4QtQU=; b=UGc/T2Elq71sJxzizwfv1SJU43qTg7kS18OPZI9q0KgFbvqcD8A2r8CGaUbFlwF/2H k3AS+/h/uRQs5mk9XETywYGKMQXdrg6++4XvLBMioa1z8BziWxQShLTthIC+OP4lLpAP V4vTvU1W4diudd+FMawj812yE2FiGWuqHCjGM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aQR1Z4M+mXwVY0f1pf8mjnTGPStWJDC/vuvutUqSukW+Jkrq/AdZ/iSysfwqu+PQPJ 6WBzY0cxfueL9XX3bMyr4hzjcvXy1FMqDMPigCiTtIVQ/b1hLpsyjhbLgaFNvPdQYSLB 9ySbLE14ECvLXEaQ5rSiaB0GE6A/y37Lw6Pz4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.115.10 with SMTP id n10mr3276714wfc.89.1236037208371; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:40:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090302020336.GA18386@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <20090302020336.GA18386@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:40:08 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903021540h2a4d9178vd0ec0a47c8124fb8@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:40:09 -0000 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 02:24:47PM -0500, APseudoUtopia wrote: >> >> Cron is not sending output as emails. I noticed this when I stopped >> seeing the output of a backup script in my daily email. I thought >> there was a problem with the backup script - but no, it's cron not >> sending the emails. >> >> I had this problem before on 6.1, which I never found a solution to. I >> gave up on it, and eventually I upgraded to 7.1. After the upgrade, >> cron worked perfectly. However, I just noticed that it stopped working >> again. I have no idea what changed (It's a production server, I >> haven't been playing with config files). >> >> User www's mail is redirected to root, which is redirected to a @gmail >> account via /etc/aliases. >> This is on 7.1-RELEASE-p3 running a custom kernel. >> >> Any solution to this problem would be fantastic. I use the emails from >> cron on a daily basis, and it really messes me up to have it not >> working. >> >> ##### >> # User www's crontab >> # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail >> ##### >> MAILTO=3Droot >> # m =C2=A0 =C2=A0 h =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 dom =C2=A0 =C2=A0 mon =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 dow =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cmd >> * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 echo "Hello" >> >> >> #### >> # /var/log/cron >> #### >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22627]: (operator) CMD >> (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> group_compat, setgrent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> group_compat, endgrent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> passwd_compat, endpwent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22628]: (www) CMD (echo "Hel= lo") >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> group_compat, setgrent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> group_compat, endgrent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> passwd_compat, endpwent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> group_compat, setgrent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> group_compat, endgrent, not found >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): n= is, >> passwd_compat, endpwent, not found >> >> >> >> #### >> # /var/log/maillog >> #### >> Mar =C2=A01 19:22:00 youcant sendmail[22630]: n21JM0Gl022630: from=3Dwww= , >> size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, >> msgid=3D<200903011922.n21JM0Gl022630@youcant.tastetherainbow.ws>, >> relay=3Dwww@localhost > > It looks like you're using user: www for your crontab. > > Unfortunately, from /etc/passwd: > > www:*:80:80:World Wide Web Owner:/nonexistent:/usr/sbin/nologin > > i.e user www can't do much without a shell. > > Create a crontab as a user with a shell, MAILTO to your gmail account. > > The user may want to be a member of a group with privileges. Or use > sudo. > > Don't forget to add him to /var/cron/allow as per manpage for > crontab(1). > > You could set SHELL in your crontab for www (might work) but I'd use a > different user who's a member of group operator maybe. > > Hope that helps. > > Regards, > > -- > > =C2=A0Frank > > > =C2=A0Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html > > Thanks for the suggestions. The backup script I have in the crontab still runs perfectly fine - there's just no output. So cron itself is working, just not any email output. I'll try playing around with the MAILTO and the SHELL and such to try and get it working. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 23:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2223710656C2 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D6F8FC08 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A234AFC1FE; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:40:21 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:39:54 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> In-Reply-To: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903021439.55092.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Andrew Moran Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:40:22 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 19:23:33 Andrew Moran wrote: > Hey guys, > > After having lots of problems with memory and 7.1/ZFS, I first > switched everything to 64-bit (amd64), and then I had a new problem, > so I eventually gave up and switched back to UFS (saying on amd64 > distro/ports), but I'm still having memory issues. > > My current one is that SpamAssassin seems to be periodically eating > up all my memory, causing the server to slow to a crawl until the > kernel kills the process and then I have enormous amounts of free > memory. Rinse, repeat. I thought maybe it had something to do with > the fact that I was using multithreaded perl (which I wasn't before I > jumped into 7.1/ZFS), but rebuilding perl (and all its' dependencies) > without threads didn't help. > > I have 8GB of physical memory and 16GB of swap memory. Here is a > line from top showing perl taking 21 gigs of memory: > > 6035 0 1 76 0 21190M 791M pfault 0 1:20 4.69% > perl5.8.9 This is hard to debug, but I'd first toggle the PERL_MALLOC option in the configuration dialog for the perl port. If this doesn't solve the problem, then you'd have to get a ktrace to get some indication of what is allocating the memory. What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play with kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a usable state at all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give enough time for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 2 23:42:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB3910656C5 for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:42:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F638FC0A for ; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:42:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KFW0099VKIT1570@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:42:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n22NgQ9o000955; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:42:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:42:26 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <49AC5D7E.8040208@daleco.biz> To: Kevin Kinsey Message-id: <49AC6EE2.1050601@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <49ABA560.8050308@gmail.com> <64c038660903020908k285b3cbcr4dd810a51a94dcec@mail.gmail.com> <49AC5D7E.8040208@daleco.biz> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Cc: freebsd general questions , Modulok Subject: Re: OT: what is the X11 equiv of /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:42:32 -0000 Kevin Kinsey wrote: > Modulok wrote: >>>> I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target the >>>> X11 equiv of /dev/null ? >> >> ...what? What problem are you trying to solve, exactly? >> -Modulok- > > I'd have to assume he wants to call a remote X program from his terminal > and not have the program's output clutter it up. > > My usual workaround is: > > 1. "xterm &" in Terminal one. > 2. "appname &" in the new Xterm, then CTL-D. > > I also have a couple of buttons in XFCE that simply call > "ssh $somehost $someapp". I've no idea where it puts > the stderror/stdout, but I never see it. > > Kevin Kinsey Not quite what I want is to have it so no graphic (non-virtual) output is sent From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 00:09:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132D8106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:09:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from smtp.utwente.nl (smtp1.utsp.utwente.nl [130.89.2.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0C98FC13 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pieter@degoeje.nl) Received: from lux.student.utwente.nl (lux.student.utwente.nl [130.89.170.81]) by smtp.utwente.nl (8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id n2309iUQ012558; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:09:46 +0100 From: Pieter de Goeje To: Edward Ruggeri Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:09:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <919383240903011504r52936d5y9ce45977ded15826@mail.gmail.com> <200903020235.07985.pieter@degoeje.nl> <919383240903021120m68bb889fh56154721a87ee86@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <919383240903021120m68bb889fh56154721a87ee86@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030109.44240.pieter@degoeje.nl> X-UTwente-MailScanner-Information: Scanned by MailScanner. Contact servicedesk@icts.utwente.nl for more information. X-UTwente-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-UTwente-MailScanner-From: pieter@degoeje.nl X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux binary wants GLIBC_2.4, GLIBCXX_3.4.9 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:09:55 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009, Edward Ruggeri wrote: > Thanks very much! Will this actually change behavior of the Linux > kernel module, or is it just supposed to trick new versions of > linux_base to build? Yes, it changes behaviour. It enables a couple of features new in the Linux= =20 2.6 kernel. Glibc expects these features based on the advertised version of= =20 the compatibility layer. =2D Pieter > > -- Ned Ruggeri > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Pieter de Goeje wrote: > > On Monday 02 March 2009, Edward Ruggeri wrote: > >> I am using FreeBSD 7.0 Stable. =A0I want to run the Linguistica project > >> Linux binary. =A0However, after loading the Linux kernel module, when I > >> try to run the binary the system replies: > >> > >> ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not > >> found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) > >> ./lxa-ubuntu-325: /usr/lib/obsolete/linuxthreads/libc.so.6: version > >> `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./lxa-ubuntu-325) > >> > >> Besides asking the Linguistica developers whether they actually must > >> require such recent versions of the GNU C, C++ libraries, I tried to > >> install a more recent linux_base. =A0However, everything beyond > >> linux_base-fc4 does not support Linux kernel 2.4.2. > >> > >> Is there a module for a newer version of the linux kernel that I can > >> build so as to install a newer linux_base? =A0Or is there a way to use > >> the same 2.4.2 module but use more recent GNU C libraries? =A0I am not > >> an expert in this area; is there something I haven't thought of? > > > > You can "upgrade" the linux compatibility layer by setting the sysctl: > > > > =A0compat.linux.osrelease=3D2.6.18 > > > > For example in /etc/sysctl.conf. Then you should be able to install a > > newer version of linux_base. > > > > -- > > Pieter de Goeje From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 00:10:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0236106567F for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967D68FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:10:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1430314yxl.13 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:10:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5ewFSoauClffLpfxbkNzgRH47hoqchjR/0SZtUttOK0=; b=gPLQ/xJOGyazKW89QkS5XW9xpHJ9sDveJeMi2m09wRKcXC/1sAQhBsNq0yFpKJMxBv fwhJiLEV2BS3Sqgqu8JrA02pt0VU4z4/jsT+9CMXOHbCaTuIJgO4a1F5krMyCX2onypK mPVJhUkh08AMzS7cbPWVb74uzxg/V7KVdwFAo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GFpeCYZcrxt/DqS3c/Bg9IWbUqgZy7UntqCYoCFDBqQqPLNQX4GePzba/hz4QVRPy7 b2XvTiSGC4u6vg1qQGEAlT/qrb2cjm4pEU/9E4CRwNbPN4S1Zs9LD6F7yh8AgDh/i9eA lI3r0Z85glz7O5LNjdGCk0apUy3W6FGC8jnSc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.134.16 with SMTP id h16mr5332062and.94.1236039037738; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:10:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:10:37 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:10:39 -0000 I think. My linux packages stopped working. Anyone else experienced/verified/fixed this behavior? "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libuuid.so.1: ELF file OS ABI invalid" portupgrade *linux* gives ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) - devel/linux-glib2 (port directory error) No doubt the source of the issue. Does a fix exist? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 00:17:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5A7106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:17:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5BF8FC19 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:17:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eitanadlerlist@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so5993197gxk.19 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:17:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4A3koXGuc7gACoQI6oLBsMbSvmcSkDFYm3rjjsa5MLg=; b=Ez7tDAre4l8YoJW+cjgElt47+zp7L6GX1LXjSC7yFMr5MCrVfWo1GgUUCxKoENTF1o rQs/t6c4LpWvjMD48iznYGp3nq/z+w3ZdA5FNK34SmO+DIVijJGLPH/dk1Kzwep59lK9 tVD+v03HbaLyNLAYhG8cTT4wGNMmfXkRDybLI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HQr47X3WZygT1HZyG9s5MByKyC6ojlJdJit2oJxxxNNOuuAOHuA9FNJgy+p6UhwP8n MgU01aCin8dt5cwPAQLDiw/+AGgE+7EmVdTUeCTSI3BiqE7sMmG3uxIkroK0cS9dI1LI nzrFuJztC9/KiLAJOEsyyEHgQSN7GmHk2V/rg= Received: by 10.142.234.16 with SMTP id g16mr3293470wfh.107.1236039477020; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from aargh.lan (ool-182fcc8b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.204.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm13735316wfc.4.2009.03.02.16.17.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:17:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:18:20 -0500 From: Eitan Adler User-Agent: Mozilla (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; ) Gecko Thunderbird Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bahamasfranks@gmail.com References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 OpenPGP: id=E9C2CCD1; url=pgp.mit.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:17:58 -0000 20090121: AFFECTS: users of devel/linux-glib2, emulation/linux_base-f4 AUTHOR: bsam@FreeBSD.org Glib2 now is incorporated to emulation/linux_base-fc4 (it has always been a part of more recent linux base ports). All users should deinstall devel/linux-glib2 and then deinstall/reinstall emulation/linux_base-f4. read UPDATING next time Steve Franks wrote: > I think. My linux packages stopped working. Anyone else > experienced/verified/fixed this behavior? > > "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/X11R6/lib/libuuid.so.1: > ELF file OS ABI invalid" > > portupgrade *linux* gives > > ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed) > - devel/linux-glib2 (port directory error) > > No doubt the source of the issue. Does a fix exist? > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > -- Eitan Adler "Security is increased by designing for the way humans actually behave." -Jakob Nielsen From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 00:42:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078881065677 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:42:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA97B8FC18 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:42:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7195AFC1FE; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:42:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:42:43 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <526674.23467.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <526674.23467.qm@web56307.mail.re3.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903021542.43422.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: "\"Michael A. Alestock\"" Subject: Re: ACPI issue on my Toshiba laptop X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:42:45 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 19:25:44 "Michael A. Alestock" wrote: > Hi all, > > As you're already aware, there've been known issues with ACPI running on > some laptops. For instance, mine is a Toshiba Satellite A105-S2051. > When I first installed FreeBSD v6.3 I would get the following error... > > *** ACPI-0370: Error - No installed handler for fixed event *** > > >From here, I wouldn't be able to use my built-in LAN or Atheros 5212 > > wireless because of constant WATCHDOG: DEVICE TIMEOUT error messages. > However, I later found out that by disabling the ACPI by placing two > lines in your /boot/device.hints or /boot/loader.conf files, > > hint.apic.0.disabled="1" > hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" > > you would be able to use both the wireless and LAN without the ACPI > running. This has been the case for me for a while, and everything was > going great until lastnight.... That's the drawback of work-arounds: bugs don't get fixed. Your best bet is to post relevant information [1] to freebsd-acpi list and possibly -mobile with respect to ath. [1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/acpi-debug.html -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 01:56:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED25106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:56:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4A18FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:56:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7279F3CF18; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:56:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n231uJZD009170; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:56:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:56:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <20090303025619.ed4d63c4.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090302144110.GB25087@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> References: <20090302144110.GB25087@Grumpy.DynDNS.org> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David Kelly , FreeBSD , Tsu-Fan Cheng Subject: Re: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:56:43 -0000 I don't want to be impolite, but your solution suggestion is unneccessarily complicated, involving something that isn't needed at all. Let me explain: On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:41:10 -0600, David Kelly wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: > > Hi all, > > I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it > > over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't > > read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility > > that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! > > The easiest way to do what you are attempting is to format the disk FAT. > Then to preserve file attributes write your files in a tar archive. Hey hey, not so complicated. :-) The easiest way is to follow this advice WITHOUT the FAT part. The tar "filesystem" has been serving as the best data exchange format among UNIXes and Linusi over the years. The only thing needed on the Macbook is the tar utility. So, on the FreeBSD machine, you first put the files onto the external HDD using tar - note that you're using it DIRECTLY, you're NOT creating any files on a file system: % tar cvf /dev/da0 Then, on the Macbook, you simply extract from the external disk, using MacOSX's tar command: $ tar xvf /dev/da0 Done! Usually, tar will preserve your file names and file attributes. No need to look for character translation tables, no need for chmod -x for the files, no need for the uppercase / lowercase trouble. Of course, you cannot read such a hard disk with "Windows", but this wasn't part of the question anyway. There is no need to pollute a hard disk with MICROS~1 FAT when you're using UNIXens only. And yes, it is that simple. :-) Simple. Useful. UNIX. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 02:20:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1416E1065673 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92F18FC1A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631793CE54; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:20:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n232KJOr009528; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:20:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:20:19 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Jerry Message-Id: <20090303032019.c2ccc614.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20090302191042.GA56989@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: backup msdos slice X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:20:31 -0000 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:10:42 -0500, Jerry wrote: > So, what I would like is something that would dump the MS slice > to a FreeBSD file or media written in the FreeBSD world and that > I could then pick out files and directories somewhat like I do > using restore on a dump file. There should be a simple way: Just dd the FAT partition into a file. You can then backup this file in FreeBSD (by any way you want). In order to access files inside the dd image you can simply mount it using the md (memory disk) facility. An example (not verified, I don't have any MICROS~1 around); I'll assume that /dev/ads2c is the FAT file system in question (again, I do admit that I don't know how FAT partitions occur as device files in FreeBSD). % dd if=/dev/ads2c of=fat.dd bs=1m 12345678+1 records in 12345678+1 records out Now you've got fat.dd. You can backup this file or just backup content parts of it. % sudo mdconfig -a -t vnode -u 10 -f fat.dd % mount -t msdosfs -o ro /dev/md10 /mnt You now can access the files in fat.dd from the /mnt subtree. Be sure to check % man mount_msdosfs for additional options you might need (character conversion, large, longnames, mask, ... - I don't exactly know what to use). Now you can partwise plusgood backup files from within /mnt, using your favourite backup method (tar to tape, rsync to remote machine or what you prefer). > Basically, I want to back up the MSDOS slice (I know MS calls it > a primary partition) from the FreeBSD side of things. I can read > and write the slice nicely from FreeBSD, but not dump/restore. Now you can. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 02:21:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB031065726 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout017.mac.com (asmtpout017.mac.com [17.148.16.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B068FC1B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:21:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from cenarius.apple.com ([17.228.13.75]) by asmtp017.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFW0069EP4HHW40@asmtp017.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:53 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <19C0CCFC-CBD5-4822-8838-4F10C4792C23@mac.com> From: Andrew Moran To: Mel In-reply-to: <200903021439.55092.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:53 -0800 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> <200903021439.55092.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:21:54 -0000 On Mar 2, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Mel wrote: > > This is hard to debug, but I'd first toggle the PERL_MALLOC option > in the > configuration dialog for the perl port. If this doesn't solve the > problem, > then you'd have to get a ktrace to get some indication of what is > allocating > the memory. > Thank you for your suggestion. I'll try compiling Perl and it's dependencies without using PERL_MALLOC. > What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play > with > kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? > If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a > usable state at > all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give > enough time > for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. > Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 02:24:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C6C106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:24:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48E38FC1C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-52-176.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.52.176]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8654F3CE89; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:24:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n232ONRT009545; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:24:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:24:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bernt Hansson Message-Id: <20090303032422.9490d9eb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , FBSD UG , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:24:30 -0000 On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:22:50 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > FBSD UG skrev: > > > > You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one > > Apple computer. > > Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" to > install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not > have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any other > brand or non brand. I think an important point is that you loose support from Apple if you're not installing Mac OS X on Apple brand hardware. As for the license agreement, if you buy Mac OS X from the shelf (for example), you've not confirmed any contract-like agreement with Apple yet, but you've purchased some rights already, for example the right to burn the whole package (not a nice example but I'm sure you get the idea); the EULA mentions nothing about this (legally possible) behavior. The Mac OS X versions sold along with the "Hackintosh" are no illegally pirated copies, they're "boxes" from the shelf. It's up to the customer what to do with it. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 03:02:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB38106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B241B8FC21 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:02:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1460345yxl.13 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:02:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qKmADmWbgmdQ5lMPUOuuk0Z/w3ZYL36jAwoiyyzA/h8=; b=JPfU44IWlrOfhvXdMtOlfLQ1AjWf2tUr7BAcGvkWMqEOOjlAXUVJ8s96S32IARckuz 1+1FRQvp0FXCj/AR9Uql9d3Md0ALGs0cgNgLO3GU2OQTKSF4BW5m7bZyDjAX00/Vcpgx c3axij9R5QkZqwABv+Lybkmf3G1ViZA+r6C4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Eosr5mRbTliyNwgK+mYFmRxxUV3DWZxzc2dDtxMWZfO2+MCJ+O8Qrp+Nr7N/5yvplY aUHeaCusfsh7O+5sSXAaI6gXppcHzLs48+2GykMTt1XQOsdOPwtwMPBHsmnEzrHGHmKT lS7dAaUaLSUJlHHxbR6Vv4b8XszzmULdTKs/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.140.15 with SMTP id n15mr5482176and.17.1236049326713; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:02:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:02:06 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:02:08 -0000 > read UPDATING next time Were I about to run buildkernel/buildworld, I would read UPDATING. I don't recall there being an UPDATING in /usr/ports. Perhaps the documentation regarding this should be updated. One tries not to rely on the mailing list, but when all knowledge is tribal, what recourse does one have? Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 03:05:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F72106568B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C7D8FC19 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:05:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeKwP-0000iB-SO; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:05:09 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n23359jX012966; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:05:09 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 179E9FCA4DB; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:05:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:05:03 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: APseudoUtopia Message-ID: <20090303030503.GA23476@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: APseudoUtopia , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:05:09 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:05:15 -0000 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 02:24:47PM -0500, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > Cron is not sending output as emails. I noticed this when I stopped > seeing the output of a backup script in my daily email. I thought > there was a problem with the backup script - but no, it's cron not > sending the emails. > > I had this problem before on 6.1, which I never found a solution to. I > gave up on it, and eventually I upgraded to 7.1. After the upgrade, > cron worked perfectly. However, I just noticed that it stopped working > again. I have no idea what changed (It's a production server, I > haven't been playing with config files). > > User www's mail is redirected to root, which is redirected to a @gmail > account via /etc/aliases. > This is on 7.1-RELEASE-p3 running a custom kernel. > > Any solution to this problem would be fantastic. I use the emails from > cron on a daily basis, and it really messes me up to have it not > working. > > ##### > # User www's crontab > # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail > ##### > MAILTO=root > # m h dom mon dow cmd > * * * * * echo "Hello" PATH is not set or binary not called with it's path. > > > #### > # /var/log/cron > #### > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22627]: (operator) CMD > (/usr/libexec/save-entropy) > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, setgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, endgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22627]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > passwd_compat, endpwent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant /usr/sbin/cron[22628]: (www) CMD (echo "Hello") > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, setgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, endgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22628]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > passwd_compat, endpwent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, setgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > group_compat, endgrent, not found > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant cron[22630]: NSSWITCH(nss_method_lookup): nis, > passwd_compat, endpwent, not found > > Heh! I misread your original post. I didn't realise that "youcant" was your hostname. It confused me ;) A few ideas: Make MAILTO in cron point to your gmail account. If not you'll need an alias for www in aliases(5) to point to that gmail account and you have to remember to rebuild it with newaliases(1) after you've edited it. > > #### > # /var/log/maillog > #### > Mar 1 19:22:00 youcant sendmail[22630]: n21JM0Gl022630: from=www, > size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, > msgid=<200903011922.n21JM0Gl022630@youcant.tastetherainbow.ws>, > relay=www@localhost This has got a few problems. It's saying the size of the message is 0 (probably because you've not set your PATH) & the number of recipients is 0 and it seems to be relaying it to www@localhost rather than delivering it to your gmail account (newaliases not run). Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 03:14:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922E6106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:14:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1F98FC1A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:14:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2185003bwz.43 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:14:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Q1Ggjb6xm9YYMUnEcOVMmuZPc7UnyT0jqxBv04rzgUw=; b=Rxh+U0UHb+pBDFjGd89BJklCXSeSSvPCv2cnjZgd5wp4RmKfO4dvG3EobZfc5smfW6 BKeq4nSNpGaxPBg2/mkOi/IwlUlx8iNR95z1e7aI9qmGEAj0IXYsXJA7HqasRNMxcHJ9 krOnTBGR66JUTxagiRz8/Nykx2Xq7NUf2lpx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ha8aMUbpNPzA2mIxv1WWv9HoDzmPgq3NDltVtJQrtSgmDQngnCZGy9yhpiITBrTS5P KUkDp42y5YryLBdp6BaE+Lz50aab7NlTCKsNYTwi76kNF4xPSkOk3z2Nt5jd/sRS4ZHr jpOQ9tL74P6NtMdz55C8GXvP7YiU24Dts6qgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.107.19 with SMTP id z19mr794696fao.27.1236050058951; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:14:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:14:18 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:14:20 -0000 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, APseudoUtopia wro= te: [snip] > > ##### > # User www's crontab > # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail > ##### > MAILTO=3Droot > # m =A0 =A0 h =A0 =A0 =A0 dom =A0 =A0 mon =A0 =A0 dow =A0 =A0 cmd > * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 ech= o "Hello" > > [snip] 1.) You are not using the full path to /bin/echo, which is why it is faili= ng. 2.) This is a poor designed way to test cron's mail output. A Better(tm) way would be something like: MAILTO=3Droot */5 * * * * /bin/ping -c1 localhost >/dev/null which would mail to root on success or failure. Regards, --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 03:43:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683B6106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:43:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187808FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:43:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kitchetech@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so1547655ana.13 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:43:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yltvx7Vg89WR5gb4FBEkuxYXKc/UbtxKDz5eP/ddufU=; b=ttSgXwzA3m5Eh/U8s4MW8tgEMJcaiRAyj8pAJQ/9oz+HxsYvm9eaw6Y10B+4Cfzxad /Nvv6rIWW1zTPFaRvyaq9a8XWnhMyt+qfW4nbKJ9Zu2vEvVNHAAKXmW5X3j9vjaJWDRJ tA5+kSiqZxLavweTE+6Dp69k8jLhCayiButPA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=iMIBUNN/EDfpYXx3Wza/R3M/PmqUXYskYNN5g6C/yzO3uFbDBKbNw2OT1Qmu7VQSP5 0RdhrXvYjLvfPP1AcVV2CCwTGAd455ACxB4et5Q8rtBpzS1VciLxO9IZ5o4Iepwt4cLB iUnEponGn/4XcG3mSa43S+lXtH/HNRSPdHWAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.45.208 with SMTP id g16mr2090719vcf.111.1236051803291; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:43:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <28283d910903021943j511daba3n8b6f4cb4b4a2d74e@mail.gmail.com> From: matt donovan To: Steve Franks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:43:24 -0000 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Steve Franks wrote: > > read UPDATING next time > > Were I about to run buildkernel/buildworld, I would read UPDATING. I > don't recall there being an UPDATING in /usr/ports. Perhaps the > documentation regarding this should be updated. One tries not to rely > on the mailing list, but when all knowledge is tribal, what recourse > does one have? > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 04:06:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B7D106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 04:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB87C8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 04:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2345w37077702; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:05:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n2345wme077699; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:05:58 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:05:58 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Steve Franks In-Reply-To: <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:05:58 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:06:00 -0000 On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Steve Franks wrote: >> read UPDATING next time > > Were I about to run buildkernel/buildworld, I would read UPDATING. I > don't recall there being an UPDATING in /usr/ports. Perhaps the > documentation regarding this should be updated. Section 4.5.4 seems to cover it: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 05:21:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B36106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDBF8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:21:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bahamasfranks@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1477547yxl.13 for ; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:21:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5W1dC3jFCcoJtobBgYkue/2S8nF+pE+EflKCUsqHOd0=; b=eXvb0uM4vPpbYBGhP0XU06MZKfR4qJv1GZ9z1xVtNxzM2/gNpgB7cbrGUR5NzeS+Qd EZ7jTZ3Xjt+jPbEOK3YLk+GYuAPjKr3nAA95N40ffWYx2FghDn8aBk9oBdiiJ7FVlXVc 1Mo0CBBfRkcjCuNcFpOf/UJ5NT/Bq6/c/HNAM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PkReISPM0KrfJc/bcoiIAeKD2MiD9brwSwDtxWjcTC03pEJrw6KQDgUOsPi94kf6KD mrTMhoFQNK0GnkOO1TsGyhJldj7UnJ28U3AmujeZbMPluFIvmuoa0MbgdO/kmpimGA0g MA29l7wGyk4UmDLVPlWkuGBJBBuofMHNe8fKs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.111.5 with SMTP id j5mr5462066anc.54.1236057681970; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:21:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <28283d910903021943j511daba3n8b6f4cb4b4a2d74e@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> <28283d910903021943j511daba3n8b6f4cb4b4a2d74e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Franks To: matt donovan Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:21:23 -0000 > There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is > when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD Well, I'll be d###'ed. So there is. Makes sense, I guess. Wonder how many other "UPDATING"'s are floating around the system... Steve From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 07:03:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143C61065670 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7148FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeOfQ-0004J9-TR; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:03:52 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2373qKs003330; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:03:52 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5CA24FCA4DB; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:03:47 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:03:47 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20090303070347.GA24927@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Steve Franks , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> <28283d910903021943j511daba3n8b6f4cb4b4a2d74e@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:03:52 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:03:55 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:21:21PM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > > > There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is > > when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD > > Well, I'll be d###'ed. So there is. Makes sense, I guess. Wonder > how many other "UPDATING"'s are floating around the system... There's only the two. /usr/ports/UPDATING to be read before upgrading/installing ports. /usr/src/UPDATING to be read when updating base and/or kernel. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 08:25:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E15106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from jasper.secsrv.net (jasper.secsrv.net [66.98.138.37]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5438FC1F for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:25:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@rgbaz.eu) Received: from [82.161.18.200] (helo=[10.0.1.104]) by jasper.secsrv.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LePw7-0004m2-KX; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:25:12 -0500 Message-Id: From: FBSD UG To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:25:03 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa><87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jasper.secsrv.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - rgbaz.eu X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:25:13 -0000 On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: > FBSD UG skrev: >> >> You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one >> Apple computer. > > Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" to > install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not > have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any > other > brand or non brand. > > did you sign all Swedish laws then? How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 08:46:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C34F106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:46:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201888FC1B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:46:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:46:16 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n238kFJV002780; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:46:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:46:15 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: FBSD UG Message-ID: <20090303084615.GA2473@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 08:46:17.0098 (UTC) FILETIME=[8444C6A0:01C99BDC] Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:46:20 -0000 El día Tuesday, March 03, 2009 a las 09:25:03AM +0100, FBSD UG escribió: > > On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: > > >FBSD UG skrev: > >> > >>You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one > >>Apple computer. > > > >Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" to > >install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not > >have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any > >other > >brand or non brand. > > > > > did you sign all Swedish laws then? > > How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? Could you please chat this off-topic issues off-list? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 10:47:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D425106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:47:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81868FC1A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:47:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (pc-fa-vieira.critical.pt [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF84522839B; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:47:06 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49AD0AA9.2010604@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:47:05 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Gerzo References: <20081229124558.43cefc56@gumby.homeunix.com> <200812292039.43242.masoom.shaikh@gmail.com> <20081229105904.523e3494.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> <20090104070842.3b85806f@scorpio> <69337310.20090104182846@rulez.sk> In-Reply-To: <69337310.20090104182846@rulez.sk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: local copy of handbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:47:08 -0000 Daniel Gerzo wrote: > Hello Jerry, > >>> For more information see http://docsnap.sk.freebsd.org/ and possibly >>> the rsync manual page. > >> I was having a problem reaching that URL; however, I found that this >> one: http://www.oook.cz/bsd/docsnap.html did seem to work. In any case, >> I am unable to get the 'rsync' command to work. This is the output of >> one such attempt. > >> ~ $ sudo rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc/ >> rsync: failed to connect to docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org: Operation timed out >> (60) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) >> [receiver=3.0.5] > >> This has happened continually for the past few days. I am not sure if >> it is a temporary problem or or permanent one. > > The docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org (as well as ftp.sk and cvsup.sk) server is > currently offline due to some problems after its update. > > Unfortunately it's been a vacations period here and we were unable to get > personally to the box and fix it. However I have been told that the > issue should be resolved tommorrow, so I would recommend you to try > tommorrow or a bit later. > I tried to update my doc with DocSnap but it seems the is no docsnap rsync module in the server. flumen# rsync -rltvz docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org::docsnap /usr/share/doc rsync: failed to connect to docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org: Connection refused (61) rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) [receiver=3.0.5] flumen# ping docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org PING sk.FreeBSD.org (81.89.56.57): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=67.247 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=68.471 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=2 ttl=243 time=68.076 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=3 ttl=243 time=72.538 ms 64 bytes from 81.89.56.57: icmp_seq=4 ttl=243 time=67.705 ms ^C --- sk.FreeBSD.org ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 67.247/68.807/72.538/1.909 ms flumen# rsync docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org rsync: link_stat "/usr/ports/net/rsync/docsnap.sk.FreeBSD.org" failed: No such file or directory (2) rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1040) [sender=3.0.5] Any news regarding the server's availability? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 10:55:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD89106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from fw.farid-hajji.net (fw.farid-hajji.net [213.146.115.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3411F8FC15 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:55:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cpghost@cordula.ws) Received: from phenom.cordula.ws (phenom [192.168.254.60]) by fw.farid-hajji.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E9932C05; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:55:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:55:40 +0100 From: cpghost To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" Message-ID: <20090303105540.GA1015@phenom.cordula.ws> References: <49ABA560.8050308@gmail.com> <64c038660903020908k285b3cbcr4dd810a51a94dcec@mail.gmail.com> <49AC5D7E.8040208@daleco.biz> <49AC6EE2.1050601@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AC6EE2.1050601@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: what is the X11 equiv of /dev/null X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:55:43 -0000 On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 06:42:26PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: > >>>> I was thinking is there someway to direct a X11 app to target the > >>>> X11 equiv of /dev/null ? > > Not quite what I want is to have it so no graphic (non-virtual) output > is sent How about setting up an X server on another machine (or another console), and redirect the output of your X11 app to it by setting DISPLAY accordingly? Something like: % env DISPLAY=mynullhost:10.0 myxapp % env DISPLAY=:1.0 myxapp Or, if you start your app from within X and just want to hide its windows, you could also try to configure your favorite window manager to automatically hide all windows from a particular application (if your wm allows it and if your X11 app tells its name in an X11 resource (check out RESOURCES in X(7), and -xrm)). -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 11:33:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356781065670 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:33:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97558FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:33:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d21so364860nfb.33 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:33:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SrTcHlsxzowC1jQGj/DDyUmWChoLAy1EE0DkeIOHdZQ=; b=snlnSSeycRiz3W2fc4c0O7LjsNbTMjRdLXSrAyvNRpdvyLQpqQv5Fl7OL6j2LNhp9D hZT9ObSU5Z/Ex2ZZ5CBY3TwTAzuppjH7FBle1XhNmZ3VXGbDht1Pyhqf3FhOmHQ3BsiK /l1S3T64Nz6Z4eyAn6b5uCcEARgH2U6sFv7h8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CuznD6DzaLQhsO/BGAkd7LJnpajNbUl/YWXAXf4Rgr9i8aFZ9oVJ+LnTUUFG5zarXx NZspts26q/zPClsQnD9O1yBuTm5fyEZyThEkH27YqW2iAZP0p52QxCkoVT2tXY7xo7z6 QkO87FTcyfXo2vGgUuLsoWj9Ic5S//bXNxHi8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.90.20 with SMTP id n20mr5612023ebb.72.1236079996675; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:33:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090302152213.703cfcbd@gom.home> References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> <4ad871310903021146j30cd2dby4a644362b4420d11@mail.gmail.com> <20090302152213.703cfcbd@gom.home> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:33:16 +0100 Message-ID: <3a142e750903030333o20e58c1evb4af9fd8c83fbd4d@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: prad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:33:18 -0000 On 3/3/09, prad wrote: > On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 > Glen Barber wrote: > >> Try the atapicam kernel module. >> > i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did > boot atapicam > but got > > elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel > > which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't > load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i > load atapicam > then it just boots acpi.ko Normal behaviour. You need to load kernel too. lsmod is useful command to list loaded modules. -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 11:35:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB8A810656CB for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E7A38FC23 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.192] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6CC5C2E686 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:36:25 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:34:57 +1000 Message-Id: <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:35:01 -0000 On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 20:04 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Sean Cavanaugh skrev: > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Bernt Hansson" > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:26 AM > > To: "Sean Cavanaugh" > > Cc: "freebsd-questions" > > Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook > > > >> Sean Cavanaugh said the following on 2009-02-28 16:25: > >>> ------------------------------------------------- > >>> From: "Bernt Hansson" > >>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:32 AM > >>> To: "FBSD UG" > >>> Cc: "freebsd-questions" > >>> Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook > >> > > > > > read the license. > > > > "PLEASE READ THIS SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT ("LICENSE") CAREFULLY BEFORE > > USING THE SOFTWARE. BY USING THE SOFTWARE, YOU ARE AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY > > THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE." > > NO. I'm not in any way binded by that eula. Those kind of non agreements > is not legaly binding in Sweden. I MUST SIGN AN AGREEMENT to be binded > by it. > > > http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html > > They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. > Cool country... :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 11:40:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430551065676 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9808FC1C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from localhost (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6F495 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:40:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id C3sCr2-OO+xh for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:40:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from snifi.localnet (87-204-241-35.ip.netia.com.pl [87.204.241.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1DE4037 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:40:16 +0100 (CET) From: Maciej Milewski To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:40:12 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (Linux/2.6.28-ARCH; KDE/4.2.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> <20090302152213.703cfcbd@gom.home> <3a142e750903030333o20e58c1evb4af9fd8c83fbd4d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750903030333o20e58c1evb4af9fd8c83fbd4d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200903031240.12908.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:40:23 -0000 Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:33:16 Paul B. Mahol napisa=B3(a): > On 3/3/09, prad wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 > > > > Glen Barber wrote: > >> Try the atapicam kernel module. > > > > i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did > > boot atapicam > > but got > > > > elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel > > > > which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't > > load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i > > load atapicam > > then it just boots acpi.ko > > Normal behaviour. You need to load kernel too. > lsmod is useful command to list loaded modules. Isn't lsmod a linux utility? I always thought FreeBSD has kldstat? Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 11:41:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C82C10656C9 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:41:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026A08FC1F for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:41:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.192] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476B05C2F125 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:42:42 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200902282333.01134.frank.wissmann41@web.de> References: <200902281949.16966.frank.wissmann41@web.de> <200902282208.45359.frank.wissmann41@web.de> <20090228213926.GA16933@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200902282333.01134.frank.wissmann41@web.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:41:11 +1000 Message-Id: <1236080471.99160.1.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: How to use portmanager/portmaster? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:41:18 -0000 On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 23:33 +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: > Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 22:39:26 schrieb Roland Smith: > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:08:45PM +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: > > > Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 21:42:35 schrieb Roland Smith: > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 07:49:16PM +0100, Frank Wißmann wrote: > > > > > Hi, list! > > > > > I have a problem using the above mentioned programs because > > > > > there doesn't seem to be a manpage installed. Can anybody give > > > > > me a clue on how to get help? > > > > > > > > Both do have manpages. What kind of error do you get when you try > > > > e.g. 'man portmaster'? It might be that your manual pages setup > > > > is broken. > > > > > > I get the message "No manual entry for portmaster", but using your > > > command I can read it. "man man" e. g. works perfectly. > > > > That sounds to me that the configuration for the man command is > > broken. If you give the 'manpath' command, does the output include > > /usr/local/man? If not, add the following lines to > > /etc/manpath.config: > > > > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > > > > Roland > > "manpath" does show correct settings AFAIK meaning that the answer to > your question is "yes". > > Frank > Try a rehash. $ rehash From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:09:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1151065698 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:09:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.25]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA828FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:09:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2228677qwe.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:09:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4uypfSKaFMttTfQ4yGAKs/+i3PwfyLHxoFmA2Xy+HeQ=; b=NwXMxqfw1h5o7duoJBfoTNf6pbHKuFK6mSprEg10G232nWf5Ic2+X3F4znevMdB/NW /sgCryh+/eUCK1Ta33pWflY3EzEelJOqvp/ALGAgq+SAxpY6tgbbYJ/6U+57L9ygJFgc viRLI7CEYQThZ+Z1Xg2pz0XKTWOWQxHL1Ed0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CXoJ8aXoGNyWWJ2Md/XODduQh5zZncC0jYeIzTpSmS9fBMtlORypFJl5PMjREggLfP Oyf3QrV7XdKreFIWuVcwdEiqtOkHliZaVEtrms4JliPGfUmOmqn/HqtepI35M+Zj/bcn R5MWz7emqZNhRw0dHr24Rs7qAzkSCjSGPIjMw= Received: by 10.224.2.138 with SMTP id 10mr9422735qaj.299.1236082140349; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:09:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.67? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 8sm1980774ywg.14.2009.03.03.04.08.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:08:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AD1DCE.7@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:08:46 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maciej Milewski References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> <20090302152213.703cfcbd@gom.home> <3a142e750903030333o20e58c1evb4af9fd8c83fbd4d@mail.gmail.com> <200903031240.12908.milu@dat.pl> In-Reply-To: <200903031240.12908.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:09:04 -0000 Maciej Milewski wrote: > Tuesday 03 March 2009 12:33:16 Paul B. Mahol napisa³(a): > >> On 3/3/09, prad wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:46:27 -0500 >>> >>> Glen Barber wrote: >>> >>>> Try the atapicam kernel module. >>>> >>> i pushed 6 to get loader prompt and there did >>> boot atapicam >>> but got >>> >>> elf32_loadfile: can't load module before kernel >>> >>> which i thought was weird since in the help boot it says if you don't >>> load the module, it will boot it instead of the default. if i >>> load atapicam >>> then it just boots acpi.ko >>> >> Normal behaviour. You need to load kernel too. >> lsmod is useful command to list loaded modules. >> > Isn't lsmod a linux utility? > I always thought FreeBSD has kldstat? > the loader has lsmod > Maciej Milewski > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:13:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF3510656D6 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738AC8FC15 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:13:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.192] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1C95C2F19B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:14:46 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:13:19 +1000 Message-Id: <1236082399.99160.6.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:13:25 -0000 On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 22:37 -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: > > > That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply > > > open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the > > > EULA. > > > > Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. > > That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X > license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: > > http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf > > There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line > translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; > use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not > agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail > materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is > presented and must be agreed to before use. > > I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements > and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in > violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a > handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and > ill-advised. > > Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply > weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from > occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't > enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. > I don't see how one could assume that software piracy (copying software illegally in this context) would be suddenly legal based simply on the eula being invalid. EULA's are for the USE of software- not the copying and selling of those copies of it. > ...and if that happened, I would expect software companies to change their > license agreements in order to prevent it. > > > If you are under 18 you can't make any > > legally binding agreements without your legal guardians permission. > > That might be true, but at least in the United States, parents or guardians > are usually held responsible. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:18:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E13106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE8A8FC21 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.86.51] (c80-217-86-51.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.86.51]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n23CI8qi052057; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:18:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:18:03 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:18:15 -0000 Da Rock said the following on 2009-03-03 12:34: >>> http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html >> They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. >> > > Cool country... :) It is. Now it's +3 degrees. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:18:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850571065676 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:18:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from gate.criticalsoftware.com (gate.criticalsoftware.com [212.13.37.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6C8FC22 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:18:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ricardo.meb.jesus@gmail.com) Received: from [192.168.1.195] (pc-fa-vieira.critical.pt [192.168.1.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gate.criticalsoftware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103602283D3; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:18:14 +0000 (WET) Message-ID: <49AD2005.5010601@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:18:13 +0000 From: Ricardo Jesus User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <200902281949.16966.frank.wissmann41@web.de> <200902282208.45359.frank.wissmann41@web.de> <20090228213926.GA16933@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <200902282333.01134.frank.wissmann41@web.de> <1236080471.99160.1.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1236080471.99160.1.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to use portmanager/portmaster? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: ricardo.m.jesus@criticalsoftware.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:18:16 -0000 Da Rock wrote: > On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 23:33 +0100, Frank Wi=DFmann wrote: >> Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 22:39:26 schrieb Roland Smith: >>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 10:08:45PM +0100, Frank Wi=DFmann wrote: >>>> Am Samstag 28 Februar 2009 21:42:35 schrieb Roland Smith: >>>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 07:49:16PM +0100, Frank Wi=DFmann wrote: >>>>>> Hi, list! >>>>>> I have a problem using the above mentioned programs because >>>>>> there doesn't seem to be a manpage installed. Can anybody give >>>>>> me a clue on how to get help? >>>>> Both do have manpages. What kind of error do you get when you try >>>>> e.g. 'man portmaster'? It might be that your manual pages setup >>>>> is broken. >>>> I get the message "No manual entry for portmaster", but using your >>>> command I can read it. "man man" e. g. works perfectly. >>> That sounds to me that the configuration for the man command is >>> broken. If you give the 'manpath' command, does the output include >>> /usr/local/man? If not, add the following lines to >>> /etc/manpath.config: >>> >>> OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/man >>> MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man >>> >>> Roland >> "manpath" does show correct settings AFAIK meaning that the answer to=20 >> your question is "yes". >> >> Frank >> >=20 > Try a rehash. >=20 > $ rehash >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" >=20 Do a Da Rock said. Do notice that both portmaster and portmanager are third party=20 applications and need to be installed. cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmaster/; make install clean; rehash cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portmanager/; make install clean; rehash From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:25:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D861E106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:25:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549418FC14 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:25:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.86.51] (c80-217-86-51.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.86.51]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n23CPQVF052223; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:25:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <49AD21B1.6020208@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:25:21 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Polytropon References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> <20090303032422.9490d9eb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090303032422.9490d9eb.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , FBSD UG , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:25:44 -0000 Polytropon said the following on 2009-03-03 03:24: > On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:22:50 +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: >> FBSD UG skrev: >>> You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one >>> Apple computer. >> Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" to >> install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not >> have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any other >> brand or non brand. > > I think an important point is that you loose support from Apple > if you're not installing Mac OS X on Apple brand hardware. That may be. But i'm not talking about apple specificly. > As for the license agreement, if you buy Mac OS X from the shelf > (for example), you've not confirmed any contract-like agreement > with Apple yet, but you've purchased some rights already, for > example the right to burn the whole package (not a nice example > but I'm sure you get the idea); the EULA mentions nothing about > this (legally possible) behavior. Well, you have the right to make a backup. Is it that? > The Mac OS X versions sold along with the "Hackintosh" are no > illegally pirated copies, they're "boxes" from the shelf. It's > up to the customer what to do with it. Yes. Like with any digital file/s From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:29:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A126106567D for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A2F8FC2B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:29:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.86.51] (c80-217-86-51.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.86.51]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n23CTg82052238; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:29:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <49AD22B1.8060505@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:29:37 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FBSD UG References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa><87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:29:45 -0000 FBSD UG said the following on 2009-03-03 09:25: > > On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> FBSD UG skrev: >>> >>> You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one >>> Apple computer. >> >> Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" to >> install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not >> have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any other >> brand or non brand. > did you sign all Swedish laws then? Kind of way, yes, since I voted in the election 2006 > How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? They have the copyright laws, as I stated before. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:37:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A936A106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from feeder.usenet4all.se (1-1-1-38a.far.sth.bostream.se [82.182.32.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E66C8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:37:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Received: from [80.217.86.51] (c80-217-86-51.bredband.comhem.se [80.217.86.51]) by feeder.usenet4all.se (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n23CbCio052431; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:37:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from bernt@bah.homeip.net) Message-ID: <49AD2473.5080904@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:37:07 +0100 From: Bernt Hansson User-Agent: slrn/1.0.8 (FreeBSD) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Da Rock References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090228191416.2421e88a@scorpio> <49AA19F4.2060408@bah.homeip.net> <200902282237.26322.chuckop@gmail.com> <1236082399.99160.6.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: <1236082399.99160.6.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:37:17 -0000 Da Rock said the following on 2009-03-03 13:13: > On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 22:37 -0800, Charles Oppermann wrote: >>>> That depends on where you are domiciled. Under certain scenarios, simply >>>> open the box, or installing the software constitutes acceptance of the >>>> EULA. >>> Yes I'm aware of that, but that kind of agreement isn't valid in Sweden. >> That would be tantamount to allowing software piracy in Sweden. The Mac OS X >> license agreements are contained in a PDF file here: >> >> http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/macosx105.pdf >> >> There is a Swedish language agreement for sales in Sweden. Using on-line >> translation tools, it appears to be similar to what's already been stated; >> use of the software consistutes acceptance of the agreement. If you do not >> agree, you are requested to return the software. Presumably, the retail >> materials contain this agreement, and I'm sure there is digital copy that is >> presented and must be agreed to before use. >> >> I'm sure that Apple has very good lawyers who drafted the license agreements >> and are aware of Swedish law. While what you are doing may or may not be in >> violation of any licenses, your position that "clicking yes or no is not a >> handshake or oral agreement acording to Swedish law" seems dubious and >> ill-advised. >> >> Consider what you're suggesting: If EULA's and license agreements simply >> weren't valid in Sweden, then what would prevent massive piracy from >> occuring? I would assume that if license agreements in Sweden weren't >> enforcable, someone would be setting up their own software copying business. > I don't see how one could assume that software piracy (copying software > illegally in this context) would be suddenly legal based simply on the > eula being invalid. EULA's are for the USE of software- not the copying > and selling of those copies of it. Exactly! EULAs is for the use of programs. BUT you can NOT make an agreement like MS or apples EULAs or any EULA that reads "doing this you agree to that" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:51:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B909E1065673 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:51:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from jab.dat.pl (dat.pl [80.51.155.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE3A8FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:51:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from milu@dat.pl) Received: from localhost (jsrv.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B56BC4; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:51:12 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dat.pl Received: from jab.dat.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jab.dat.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DkjWai2zNR5I; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:51:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from snifi.localnet (87-204-241-35.ip.netia.com.pl [87.204.241.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by jab.dat.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B8FCC1; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:51:09 +0100 (CET) From: Maciej Milewski To: michael Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:51:08 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.11.0 (Linux/2.6.28-ARCH; KDE/4.2.0; x86_64; ; ) References: <20090302105258.098a4be3@gom.home> <200903031240.12908.milu@dat.pl> <49AD1DCE.7@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49AD1DCE.7@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <200903031351.08560.milu@dat.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: who took my cd drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:51:15 -0000 Tuesday 03 March 2009 13:08:46 michael napisa=B3(a): > the loader has lsmod Ahh. OK. My fault. I haven't got any problems with loader so even not used = it=20 too much. Pozdrawiam, Maciej Milewski From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 12:58:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0822D1065670 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:58:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luigi@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860738FC17 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:58:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luigi@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from dyn100.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (dyn100.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.100]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC088700D487; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:40:37 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <761DDE93-C707-456F-BA01-AF10E5D57B57@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> From: Luigi Iannone To: Bernt Hansson In-Reply-To: <49AD22B1.8060505@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:40:37 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa><87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> <49AD22B1.8060505@bah.homeip.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , FBSD UG , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:58:29 -0000 The EULA states: "This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of California,.." Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this specific case the law of California applies. L. On Mar 3, 2009, at 13:29 , Bernt Hansson wrote: > FBSD UG said the following on 2009-03-03 09:25: >> On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>> FBSD UG skrev: >>>> >>>> You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one >>>> Apple computer. >>> >>> Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" >>> to >>> install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does >>> not >>> have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any >>> other >>> brand or non brand. > > >> did you sign all Swedish laws then? > > Kind of way, yes, since I voted in the election 2006 > >> How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? > > They have the copyright laws, as I stated before. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 13:15:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4301106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (smtp3.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556248FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:15:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk) Received: from smtp2.yhgfl.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Email Security Appliance) with SMTP id 4B7321BC0513_9AD2827B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (eca.yhgfl.net [89.207.208.91]) by smtp2.yhgfl.net (Sophos Email Appliance) with ESMTP id E46C21BC0506_9AD2826F for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:52:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from horbury.wakefield.sch.uk ([10.126.96.34]) by smtp3-wak.yhgfl.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n23CrD1g005334 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:53:14 GMT Received: from ITTEAM02 [10.126.96.253] by horbury.wakefield.sch.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.07) id A82ECE800C8; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:53:02 +0000 From: "Marc Coyles" To: References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:52:59 -0000 Message-ID: <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acmb/jRosM2nd9e/Q3CAb1yGCFT+ZgAAC6QQ Content-Language: en-gb X-YHGfL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the YHGfL Foundation for more information X-YHGfL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-YHGfL-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 0.5) X-YHGfL-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-MailScanner-From: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk Subject: RE: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:15:42 -0000 > >>> http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html > >> They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time" So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write "APPLE" on it in black marker. That PC is now labelled "Apple" and you can therefore use their software on it legally... (?) O_o Marci From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 13:21:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25DD1065673 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) Received: from mail1.firstbhph.com (65.105.102.163.ptr.us.xo.net [65.105.102.163]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9538FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:21:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dyioulos@firstbhph.com) Received: from [192.168.100.52] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail1.firstbhph.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n23D1JN5014385 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:01:25 -0500 From: Dimitri Yioulos Organization: First 1 Financial Corporation To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:01:23 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <22297874.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <22297874.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030801.24149.dyioulos@firstbhph.com> X-Synonym: Copied by Synonym (http://www.modulo.ro/synonym) to: archive@firstbhph.com X-First1-MailScanner-Information: Please contact First 1 Financial Corporation for more information X-First1-MailScanner-ID: n23D1JN5014385 X-First1-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-First1-MailScanner-MCPCheck: MCP-Clean, MCP-Checker (score=0, required 1) X-MailScanner-From: dyioulos@firstbhph.com X-MailScanner-To: archive@firstbhph.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-First1-MailScanner-Watermark: 1236690086.6976@z7L0NV1HCyhyKFktP+tD9A Subject: Re: Anyone know SunFire hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: dyioulos@firstbhph.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:21:06 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 5:06 pm, new_guy wrote: > Paul Schmehl-2 wrote: > > I've done some Googling, and the most common answer seems to be "hit > > STOP+A", > > but there is no STOP key on an Intel keyboard. Is there a magic > > incantation > > that will work? Maybe the entrails of a young goat? > > Ctrl + Break > > I'm sticking with OpenBSD... BTW. > > -- Hopefully that works for you, and in the process spares that poor young goat. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 13:33:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB468106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6725B8FC1C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:33:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michael.copeland@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so2242119qwe.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:33:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AF3PbL+I1cyZxypEjg7YZv/7qN7lBRgIVfy4u4ONmXE=; b=HHQnvvLuGRe2D49FhlNHaDZAX0skTHNmaSOS6Y9MV5T9xaBDfmkEz4OFclFpZYZgHP AnUWV9x9SC2d6cz12bL0hGTvkqnsyEJ5gJpk9q0J7LIy1Lhki/byJZ4CiikuQt02l4/T pV3PsdU1kJoqa7hLRsu9hpBOSv1cBxK4eVW6I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=k9UjN79ItU0wybmAFvr8aZETXDnqCyTwEpa+48ylwk47X97wPiX51AJEvfbL3SNUzg H3VIJOOAKdQRbr3UD3O+anoWp4mjZJ3XJimOxIca8lA13u7pABXX9sbTSScM2EB+QgbZ adfNoSd8a5NCEEHAChh79kxfBx7O7VB12GerE= Received: by 10.224.28.129 with SMTP id m1mr9556045qac.273.1236087204649; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.67? (adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2660472ywl.58.2009.03.03.05.33.23 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:33:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AD31A4.5050000@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:33:24 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> In-Reply-To: <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:33:26 -0000 Marc Coyles wrote: >>>>> http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html >>>>> >>>> They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. >>>> > > "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple > Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time" > > So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write "APPLE" on it > in black marker. That PC is now labelled "Apple" and you can therefore > use their software on it legally... (?) O_o > > Marci > playing the semantics game has gotten people in trouble before. on a side note, Sweden is a member of Interpol, and therefore subject to international laws. #this is specifically to our Swedish friend "http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/Members/default.asp" "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol" In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries,^[2] or in any political, military, religious, or racial crimes.^[3] Its work focuses primarily on public safety, terrorism , organized crime , war crimes , illicit drug production, drug trafficking , weapons smuggling , human trafficking , money laundering , child pornography , white-collar crime , computer crime , intellectual property crime and corruption . violating laws of more than one member state, in this case the united states and anywhere that a stolen copy transfers to in the member states constitutes a crime. that being digital or physical media. people have already been prosecuted in countries for doing exactly this and arguing that their own laws say its not forbidden. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 14:02:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12941065673 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910D38FC16 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.192] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2EA5C2EEB0 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:03:49 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:02:21 +1000 Message-Id: <1236088941.1134.29.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:02:24 -0000 On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 12:52 +0000, Marc Coyles wrote: > > >>> http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html > > >> They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. > > "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple > Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time" > > So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write "APPLE" on it > in black marker. That PC is now labelled "Apple" and you can therefore > use their software on it legally... (?) O_o > > Marci This will be my last comment on this matter as the topic is long overdrawn. Until crazy people in the US (not all- just the some who insist on stupid policies) step out of their topsy turvy virtual realities and into the real world there are going to be semantics like this. This should be a simple thing (and I believe the BSD license presents this- I'll check again to be sure): respect the authors ownership to the software as a writer, don't come whinging when it doesn't work like you think it should. MS and other whack job fools (in an effort to maximise their control and obtain as much money as they can without much effort) come up with these stupid, crazy licenses and "agreements" which in reality can't be enforced and expect people to live by them. GPL is not much different here- its only free in a purchasing sense. Licenses limit peoples use of the software; intellectual property should be honoured (and is through copyright), but limits are limits and should not be fettered on good people. (I will point out that I have done ethics studies at uni and I do understand the ramifications of my comments here) Something you can't hold in your hands shouldn't be sellable- time on the other hand should (and can) be. Look at the absolute shambles of the current situation with the plethora of licenses and the conflicting agreements between them all, the confusion for the average user and the minefield for the sysadmins. What happens when someone does click no and attempts a refund? The stores will not honour that refund and money is lost by the customer. In Australia, there is legal precedent that negates a corporation's use of size and force against a smaller client - currently this being used against banks and credit card companies, but it would apply here: the EULA's essentially state "say yes or your money will have been wasted". Not to mention that you pay money for the crappy software full of bugs and a security nightmare, then pay again for someone to come out and fix the problems you find! I personally would rather pay for the fix and skip the initial costs... RIAA and DMCA and any other acronym against the small single users need to get a life! Instead of fighting the current go with the flow- it seems that of late the tide might be finally turning with the subscription services offered: a step in the RIGHT direction. Now if only MS and others would take the hint and get a clue as to how the real world works... Thats my rant... I'm out of breath :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 14:06:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AE9E1065677 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:06:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3758FC2E for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:05:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2362326bwz.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:05:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vbeMU8q5lsKc73zztj8bZu0o0be7XjGMf6gZtnBy3Z0=; b=xu+Vplfq7GMcyZi0aCQvy1gBAR9QZAkkKxPRTtlAmUZHjfYVRhC4fmc+PFca/rnK/k vXDdlMAX/K9hcqxGPPffijT+n1pu6cF6HiQatdxvbEClSGrlreAzozsoHYfTyGs5HemQ HM6VJU6uf6zYvVF17s1goQRQn3hotSDy+wSVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=SApCgqgwW7PSWc0AHgX/y9/dFa2wquKoPmKTaoRiKtktcMWoun0x6vjZySkvD98YxL A2q/3wzxBikxOJedzCuzd4KqBLhfoG2a2J9vNEdjQOzEHL3cbg2grey8yXGb79ySGWjv ZOju0aa5rFRw5YkDuTVeQZszPMsOIE99dFR0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.223.2 with SMTP id a2mr3574193mur.88.1236089158521; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:05:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49AD31A4.5050000@gmail.com> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <49AD31A4.5050000@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:05:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: michael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: mcoyles@horbury.wakefield.sch.uk, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:06:01 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael wrote: > Marc Coyles wrote: > >> http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/macosx.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> They can write whatever they want. I'm not binded by it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple >> Software on a single *Apple-labeled* computer at a time" >> >> So, in theory, apply white lx tape to any PC, write "APPLE" on it >> in black marker. That PC is now labelled "Apple" and you can therefore >> use their software on it legally... (?) O_o >> >> Marci >> >> > playing the semantics game has gotten people in trouble before. > on a side note, Sweden is a member of Interpol, and therefore subject to > international laws. > > #this is specifically to our Swedish friend > > "http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/Members/default.asp" > "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol" > In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's > constitution forbids its > involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries,^[2] < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#cite_note-1> or in any political, > military, religious, or racial crimes.^[3] < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpol#cite_note-2> Its work focuses > primarily on public safety, terrorism < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism>, organized crime < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime>, war crimes < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes>, illicit drug < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illicit_drug> production, drug trafficking < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_trafficking>, weapons smuggling < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_smuggling>, human trafficking < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking>, money laundering < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering>, child pornography < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography>, white-collar crime < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-collar_crime>, computer crime < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_crime>, intellectual property crime > and corruption < > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption>. > > violating laws of more than one member state, in this case the united > states and anywhere that a stolen copy transfers to in the member states > constitutes a crime. that being digital or physical media. people have > already been prosecuted in countries for doing exactly this and arguing that > their own laws say its not forbidden. > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 14:16:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0135A106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2CCD8FC15 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luizbcampos@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1533524yxl.13 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:16:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jFpOnbbWXDdsI9rGggYpw3M3oWA4+o7QYbq0taxPsM8=; b=kVnB4IvNfquptHIBKM7FYC+u0HAPV987AEeXMqXQj8Haq7YWSjKg08Rvg/dUFp7l6y TZcV9CfwyUdmDET6Uxv1cO40xo2hi8UO2w6iP+u7xjIIpdQGSxW7pI8kiSOv1MX4TurX AM3JyBvEkGOcr2mrfp/ik0boZH4pWemFjM/LE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iuOAb97k04l5n2OacAAAldhpipQYO3ltmxpahdlez5Ew3nP8hdozvR8M+zMxSfUVoL 4iJuza0fTJgGIXS/RP2kChfzPJl+N7xH8HkGSUbiHe5hY33cY2/OIUb3+yAb/9bYwiWh NC/xkLMe1TehXG1Qj14aJ0vYRUjDMp8WXH3B4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.205.15 with SMTP id c15mr1347936ang.148.1236088336382; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:52:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:52:16 -0300 Message-ID: From: luizbcampos To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: installing i386.rpm files on fbsd-amd64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:16:51 -0000 I need to put my printer to work and its driver finishes as i386.rpm files. I've already installed linux_base-fc4 but when I type "/compat/linux/bin rpm -ivh --root=/usr/compat/linux/rpmfile.rpm" I got permission denied as root From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 14:20:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0091065786 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:20:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julianwissmann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B9C8FC37 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:20:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julianwissmann@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2367678bwz.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:20:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=KYUFo3APYCJvhBCQTbrcCT9SJqR17pjAjAzHqVP8ag4=; b=S93TZH8hto8IQWpm5VEBYB4Gj244hbEOESKjmqieGJmJTn1F0aBOVAcbf8KZowE042 QzukE+pibzyuKbM1O0y6DQip1C5W5zmetLq/67gHS/Cy2I7dhSR5L6x8Dy4sWy393zY/ PwNIkGN9r+DHrA87m2O2KaI6/arA8QJXtgc24= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=P9ob+i/QXUuFkMpVv+d+F/0WmlYw+nNBCFByCPS+J4KuxxplgyAMHbHUlXNqRUsEoB n2QH5HYU/G6oWZa3jq2eybxjxlULRgSMJYLCcyMSq9rx3Gmk319aIs+xSfHjUEnKKMK4 UdNSXUAx0WTd5VjUIz5I7sV7BnHsEJhpIaAPA= Received: by 10.86.83.2 with SMTP id g2mr4556175fgb.21.1236090010208; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:20:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.178.34? (p54ACF6CD.dip.t-dialin.net [84.172.246.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm858605mum.7.2009.03.03.06.20.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:20:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <368DA1EB-A7C5-4CEA-AC5B-3C8591D54ED6@gmail.com> From: Julian Wissmann To: Tsu-Fan Cheng In-Reply-To: <20090302183739.GB89715@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:20:07 +0100 References: <20090302183739.GB89715@slackbox.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: read BSD format disk from Mac OSX X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:20:13 -0000 Am 02.03.2009 um 19:37 schrieb Roland Smith: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 09:16:02AM -0500, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote: >> Hi all, >> I format a ext disk (UFS) and transfer some files into it, hand it >> over to my friend who has a macbook. He complained the macbook can't >> read it. I don't have a mac on hand, I wonder if there is any utility >> that will help a mac to read a BSD, thanks!! > > Macs use GUID partition tables. These are supported by the GENERIC > FreeBSD kernel (at least in 7.1). You'll need the gpt(8) program to > make > them. The following link is a kind of HOWTO: > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-1305.html > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much > appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: > C321A725) Formatting the Disk GUID is a start. Your friend could use FUSE as well though. It's available for OS X (see http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/) . Or you could format the FreeBSD disk with UFS1! which is afaik supported by OS X. Julian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 14:28:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1681110656E8 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:28:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from mho-02-bos.mailhop.org (mho-02-bos.mailhop.org [63.208.196.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90AD8FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alex@schnarff.com) Received: from [65.102.233.117] (helo=www.schnarff.com) by mho-02-bos.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1LeVbt-000Aqo-9z for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:28:41 +0000 Received: (qmail 28854 invoked by uid 80); 3 Mar 2009 14:26:26 -0000 Received: from sf-nat.sourcefire.com (sf-nat.sourcefire.com [64.214.53.2]) by mail.schnarff.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:26:26 -0500 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 65.102.233.117 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/mailhop/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1+uSWpOxzK7x24YpBdHrPbyiXyAjSNBGZw= Message-ID: <20090303092626.92985p31097h8s4c@mail.schnarff.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:26:26 -0500 From: Alex Kirk To: Tamouh Hakmi References: <20090301180006.19402mvtopuv9go4@mail.schnarff.com> <20090301202004.19264ty2m0sdne4g@mail.schnarff.com> <106485CFDFE44C7DBD441994EE990916@tamouh> In-Reply-To: <106485CFDFE44C7DBD441994EE990916@tamouh> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-7.0 Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:28:45 -0000 What branch is this patch supposed to apply against? I've tried =20 7.0-RELEASE and 7.1-RELEASE, and judging by the dates involved, it's =20 somewhere in between the two. Or should I be asking this on the freebsd-hackers list, where that =20 patch was originally posted? Alex > Alex, > > This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets. =20 > There is a patch for it: > > http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(IC= H7)-td16179257.html > > I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted earlier =20 > today asking if anyone had tried out that patch. > > Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online. > > Thanks, > > Tamouh > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk >> Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM >> To: Jamie >> Cc: questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two >> >> >> Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while >> >> retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but >> I'd really >> >> prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt. >> > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Alex Kirk >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what >> > containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in >> there the >> > OS isn't going to be able to fix anything. >> > >> > >> > - Jamie >> > >> >> Sorry, should have already gone over this. >> >> The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are "Create Array", "Delete >> Array", "Reset Disk States", and "Exit". It shows only the >> one array, >> but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just >> concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state >> table (or >> whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed >> up and the data will be unrecoverable. >> >> Alex >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. 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(adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm9244693ywo.37.2009.03.03.07.00.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:00:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AD4602.3030005@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:00:18 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <49AD31A4.5050000@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:00:19 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael wrote: > >>> >>> *snip* > ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. > > Andrew > ethics is like latin, few care. but i agree with you in entirety. michael From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 15:26:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253571065708 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BBD8FC1A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:26:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFD7AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:26:28 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:26:27 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <28283d910903021943j511daba3n8b6f4cb4b4a2d74e@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030626.28527.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Steve Franks , matt donovan , Eitan Adler Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:26:30 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 20:21:21 Steve Franks wrote: > > There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is > > when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD > > Well, I'll be d###'ed. So there is. Makes sense, I guess. Wonder > how many other "UPDATING"'s are floating around the system... There's even a pkg_updating(1), allthough it's matching is flakey at times. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 15:34:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA969106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747668FC1B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:34:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LeWdJ-0007kz-5Q for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:34:13 +0000 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:34:13 +0000 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:34:13 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:33:51 +0100 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: <94136a2c0903021024q54225574hc36661eaa29a057@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig200C85A7F5A78C8B1F58B8B3" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0903021024q54225574hc36661eaa29a057@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Sender: news Subject: Re: load average and some built-in monitoring mechanism X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:34:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig200C85A7F5A78C8B1F58B8B3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > My machine has recently been taken down by (most likely) runaway java > process. The box had to be rebooted as there was no remote access to > it but I am not able to find anything useful in logs to confirm > whether it was java. Is there a tool that would enable me to > automatically turn on verbose logging of top processes to some file > once the load average is greater than the specified value? This way, > once the storm is over, I would be able to see which process(es) went > nuts. >=20 > I guess a tool like that may simply already exist in which case I'd > appreciate links/more information. How are you dealing with such > issues when/if they happen to you? I don't think something like that already exists in base. You can use "top -d1" to get a snapshot from top and a small shell script (or a script in your chosen language) to test if the load average (you can get it from sysctl vm.loadavg) gets unreasonable. --------------enig200C85A7F5A78C8B1F58B8B3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJrU3fldnAQVacBcgRAgq2AKDrrmrqwCFOo81gtKcI/jLy2bxT5wCdHdS3 z/z79LfALj44iwwQrZ1UBCs= =PeQC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig200C85A7F5A78C8B1F58B8B3-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 15:35:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD08E106570D for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=3064c9043@tx.rr.com) Received: from ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu (ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu [129.110.20.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E09B8FC2B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:35:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prvs=pschmehl_lists=3064c9043@tx.rr.com) X-Group: RELAYLIST X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,296,1233554400"; d="scan'208";a="7315352" Received: from smtp3.utdallas.edu ([129.110.20.110]) by ip-relay-002.utdallas.edu with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2009 09:05:38 -0600 Received: from utd65257.utdallas.edu (utd65257.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp3.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 291CC8DDC; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:05:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:05:37 +0000 From: Paul Schmehl To: Steve Franks , matt donovan Message-ID: <0635D3383AF4AA31D6465241@utd65257.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> References: <539c60b90903021610j53138295jfa0d11b8caff30fa@mail.gmail.com> <49AC774C.2060701@gmail.com> <539c60b90903021902p41a7a57m4c81e003133f045b@mail.gmail.com> <28283d910903021943j511daba3n8b6f4cb4b4a2d74e@mail.gmail.com> <539c60b90903022121o152a8512s43083525f4033c17@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.6 (Linux/x86) X-Munged-Reply-To: Figure it out MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Cc: Eitan Adler , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: unhappy XOrg upgrade ate the linux version of libuuid.so.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Paul Schmehl List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:35:30 -0000 --On Monday, March 02, 2009 23:21:21 -0600 Steve Franks wrote: > >> There has always been a /usr/ports/UPDATING atleast as far back as 6.0 is >> when I noticed itbut that's when I started using FreeBSD > > Well, I'll be d###'ed. So there is. Makes sense, I guess. Wonder > how many other "UPDATING"'s are floating around the system... > That's easy. pauls@utd65257# locate UPDATING /usr/ports/UPDATING /usr/src/UPDATING -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* Check the headers before clicking on Reply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 15:40:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B828A10656CC for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858228FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:40:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A59AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:40:25 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:40:25 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> <200903021439.55092.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <19C0CCFC-CBD5-4822-8838-4F10C4792C23@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <19C0CCFC-CBD5-4822-8838-4F10C4792C23@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030640.25554.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Andrew Moran Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:40:27 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: > > What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play > > with > > kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? > > If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a > > usable state at > > all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give > > enough time > > for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. > > Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic > DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because > I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks like it's 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. echo 'kern.maxdsiz="8G"' >> /boot/loader.conf echo 'kern.defdsiz="4G"' >> /boot/loader.conf would set it to 4G soft limit, 8G hard limit. The difference between soft and hard is, that the limits(1) program can be used to run a process with more then 4G allocatable memory and nothing can run with more then 8G, until loader tunable is changed and a reboot is done. I really have no idea why on amd64 this default is so high, surely 32G for a process is an extreme circumstance, for which one would require 4 physical CPU's to begin with. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 15:54:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49EBF106568D for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:54:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC908FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:54:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1316AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:54:30 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:54:30 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> In-Reply-To: <3B419C0DD853DC47AA4FA65D0FC92B5FE5C8FA@FBCMST11V01.fbc.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030654.30799.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: m.borsatino@alice.it Subject: Re: libpthread not found X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:54:32 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 00:41:54 m.borsatino@alice.it wrote: > I've installed netbeans from ports without error messages. when I started > the program I got an error like this: "libpthread.so.2 needed by java not > found". I've verified that there is a libpthread.so.20 in > /usr/local/lib/pth. Did you upgrade your machine to 6.x to 7.x recently and not recompile your ports? That's the only way I can think of that would "install netbeans without error messages". Your java was compiled on 6.x and used libpthread.so.2 and libc.so.6 from there. If you installed diablo-jdk15 on your 7.x system the compat6x port should have been installed automatically. The other case that could explain this, would be that you modified ldconfig_paths in /etc/rc.conf and removed /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg. Either way, if you have: diablo-jdk-1.5.* in /var/db/pkg, you should do what Dan said and install misc/compat6x. libmap.conf is a bad idea. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 16:02:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A8C1065718 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA5C8FC18 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:02:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [10.200.0.197] ([64.142.54.201]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFX001DSTV7B350@asmtp030.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:02:10 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <9B2E2AAB-0866-4D91-9A4A-4E2D81A342E6@mac.com> From: Andrew Moran To: Mel In-reply-to: <200903030640.25554.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:01:54 -0800 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> <200903021439.55092.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <19C0CCFC-CBD5-4822-8838-4F10C4792C23@mac.com> <200903030640.25554.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:02:25 -0000 In Mar 3, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Mel wrote: > On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: > >>> What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play >>> with >>> kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? >>> If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a >>> usable state at >>> all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give >>> enough time >>> for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. >> >> Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic >> DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings because >> I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. > > Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks > like it's > 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. > echo 'kern.maxdsiz="8G"' >> /boot/loader.conf > echo 'kern.defdsiz="4G"' >> /boot/loader.conf Thank you for helping me. The earlier suggestion of toggling Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new kernel and new world which is what I did lsat night. As for kernel settings, I don't have anything in my loader.conf, and I'm not entirely sure how to show things that aren't sysctls, as this one doesn't seem to be: celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxdsiz celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.defdsiz celebrian# (Btw, using Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new kernel and new world.) I'm going to try your settings in loader.conf and see if they work for me. --Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 16:26:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C18106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@me.com) Received: from asmtpout027.mac.com (asmtpout027.mac.com [17.148.16.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8488FC17 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:26:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@me.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [10.200.0.197] ([64.142.54.201]) by asmtp027.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFX00DP7UZEPW80@asmtp027.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:26:18 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <649E6643-413F-41B4-AEFA-D94CFC809D00@me.com> From: Andrew Moran To: Mel In-reply-to: <9B2E2AAB-0866-4D91-9A4A-4E2D81A342E6@mac.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:26:02 -0800 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> <200903021439.55092.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <19C0CCFC-CBD5-4822-8838-4F10C4792C23@mac.com> <200903030640.25554.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <9B2E2AAB-0866-4D91-9A4A-4E2D81A342E6@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:26:38 -0000 On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Andrew Moran wrote: > > In Mar 3, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Mel wrote: > >> On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: >> >>>> What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play >>>> with >>>> kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? >>>> If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a >>>> usable state at >>>> all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give >>>> enough time >>>> for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. >>> >>> Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic >>> DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings >>> because >>> I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. >> >> Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks >> like it's >> 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. >> echo 'kern.maxdsiz="8G"' >> /boot/loader.conf >> echo 'kern.defdsiz="4G"' >> /boot/loader.conf > > > Thank you for helping me. The earlier suggestion of toggling > Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new > kernel and new world which is what I did lsat night. > > As for kernel settings, I don't have anything in my loader.conf, > and I'm not entirely sure how to show things that aren't sysctls, as > this one doesn't seem to be: > > celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxdsiz > celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.defdsiz > celebrian# > Ok sadly that didn't seem to do much: celebrian# cat /boot/loader.conf kern.maxdsiz="8G" kern.defdsiz="4G" celebrian# I rebooted, but still see my memory being chewed up. Almost immediately after booting, one of my spamassassin processes spun out of control. Here's the top with it eating 16 gigs of memory: PID UID THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 1611 1030 1 68 0 15062M 818M CPU2 2 0:44 20.65% perl5.8.9 and from dmesg: swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed pid 1611 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space The computer gets pretty unresponsive during this, unless swapoff my swap, then the process eats the memory faster and gets killed faster. Did I type in the wrong variables? --Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 16:47:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA6D106567F for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:47:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ravikumar.bhattiprolu@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA9D8FC12 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:47:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ravikumar.bhattiprolu@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so1577832ywt.13 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:47:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=eIg/8zrJmvNiQk9eXcn1aOXy/0YycEkS7zAnd83uBt0=; b=cuUCyo4i8Ps6592fNf6/rEtGSUDr/n8IxNJnhl4hac8Ah0OWV8NNeXs1ck/LKyCw/6 KVjyFx7aWrEaQzKSqP99U2ksoEo3DJz2Ud3WWovpZkt9Ll5qTPGUSBaF5XexxiUVJ9+B XJ9TSu5NNq8JEh2Fwc60390ThFoeCO+QdVPPk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CLo/V1tg9rwqxjpv0Byx+WhV5GSKzx+LW1i0Xl4GcoxwHdDCen70h36owTFcJf+GJA ou2U9TQgiEtSor6JKwT8QtO8+BUSRbIvBZ7jeBEZrwUtzO7jrgXI7FDBbm8Yaoj5hbBd 6FTsMkDoF/6mnBgteJ5brhh1vNK6lsL55b9As= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.177.5 with SMTP id z5mr3678067wfe.90.1236097618149; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:26:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:56:58 +0530 Message-ID: <7c23a55d0903030826s5c5f873fp8c0c070b809dffab@mail.gmail.com> From: Bhattiprolu RaviKumar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Cross Compile Tools on Linux X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:47:17 -0000 Hi All, I have a Xeon based server box running FreeBSD 7.1. We do not want to use this machine to run any compilation/build jobs. We want to build our software on a Linux based build machine and transfer the final binary to server. Are there any cross compile tools available on Linux which will create FreeBSD targets? I looked at crosstool and crosstool-ng and they do not have FreeBSD as one of the targets. Any information on this will be of great help to me. thanks and regards, Ravi From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 16:55:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55964106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:55:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E808FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:55:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:39:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E41B4@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: <20090224181452.68c1a342@gumby.homeunix.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: desktop app/config Thread-Index: AcmWq/+83QXc8H2gQVmgd3YYTBc0twFcjgBA From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "RW" , Cc: Subject: RE: desktop app/config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:55:22 -0000 "Jean-Paul Natola" wrote: > Ok so I left the machine running over the weekend to install KDE, >=20 > And when I got in this morning it said that my disk was out of space- > I loaded nothing but the basic freebsd os and nothing other than kde > (granted its only a 10 gig drive) but that should be enough for a kde > desktop no?=20 >>>It may be that you need to clean-out the workspaces with=20 >>>rm -rf /usr/ports/*/*/work, and start again. >>>BTW I'd go for KDE3 rather than KDE4. The latter still seems to be = very >>>fragile to me, and it needs a fairly up-to-date machine, with and a = well >>>supported 3-d graphics card if you want the effects. _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" So I followed the instructions above, and after a few days I wount up = again with my 6 gig slice filling up before kde3 could install- I must be doing something wrong if I cant install kde 3 on a 6 gig = slice? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:00:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A923B1065698 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.80]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937AA8FC29 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:00:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BAY120-W53 ([207.46.9.216]) by bay0-omc1-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:48:55 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [194.237.142.7] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:48:54 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 16:48:55.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0ED42D0:01C99C1F] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:00:56 -0000 Hi all=2CI am trying to use Dummynet on a modified FreeBSD 7=20 kernel. I haveloaded Dummynet in to the kernel when I add pipes=2C but pipe config returns thefollowing error:#=20 ipfw pipe 1 config delay 100msipfw:=20 setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail=AE= .=20 http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=3DTXT_MS= GTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:05:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC951106574B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:05:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866388FC13 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:05:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE10AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:05:31 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:05:31 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090301164355.GA29675@haruhi> <4ad871310903010847w7542b038w6f7787bb231d0bef@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903010847w7542b038w6f7787bb231d0bef@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030805.31189.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Daniel Lannstrom , Glen Barber Subject: Re: Root shell X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:05:35 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 07:47:44 Glen Barber wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Daniel Lannstrom wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:11:56AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > >> This explains one of the reasons not to change root's shell: > >> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/security.html#TOOR-ACCOUNT > > > > Yes that's exactly what I meant. Is there any other reason except for > > that? As I see it that problem can easily be solved by copying bash to > > the root file system. Also many systems today have the root and /usr > > on the same file system. > > You'd have to also copy more than just the binary file. True, that's why ports respect PREFIX. > It's more > complex than that, and generally is a Bad Idea(tm). FUD. Just use: make -C /usr/ports/shells/bash -DWITH_STATIC_BASH PREFIX=/ (or PREFIX=/opt or PREFIX=/static or whatever, just as long as it resides on the root partition). If something isn't working that should work (f.e. rc.d scripts), it's easy to chsh -s /bin/csh, relog and see if it works then. I've seen one case where a startup script didn't work because root shell was zsh. Judging from that case, zsh thought it was running interactively or PROMPTS set in .zlogin rather then .zshrc and various tty related commands screwed things up. Also, zsh is more aggressive on correcting command line arguments. All this ammounts to "know your shell" which is an argument *for* changing root's shell to something you're familiar with, rather leaving it at csh out of unfounded paranoia. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:07:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B45C410657A6 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1615E8FC1E for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:06:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2477067fxm.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:06:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=y/bq/jpfD+Ku1F+1SXXAKAThGhooOFV20NSIEsHHYEE=; b=xIvUxUYL5vl96RyzKoZP1JLBfEv/ERsQM6ErtFlf/NKfBUazkDP5/T4uNcpKqJhcn8 PBhcrWuxHR4VFf9PvjfmcMT6e/nIFb/xzPdcFQJZGENpNrE/W2Ei8g/Bl3XcsGVnWKR+ 2T5vbd0Ewlm7b6PSjOMHTT017qB+e4i/BsLtI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ZSZdYwEOEOwNq6jzQCekmhRRIjodsqcAXN8nOwKk7L1mEEh5Rg4DT4SPM11fk0xk8+ detvsg87/m2fRhFnCc6301kz5goKM4N36Y11U6V6RZnPVjvndKJl1Sf+bvYqXzk5lNaX 9QyXt/LWwDVtFsnSjggK+Dhm3TKqJaztvy1Tw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.40.5 with SMTP id s5mr3664560muj.48.1236100018705; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:06:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49AD4602.3030005@gmail.com> References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <49AD31A4.5050000@gmail.com> <49AD4602.3030005@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:06:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: michael Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:07:02 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, michael wrote: > Andrew Gould wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> *snip* >>>> >>> ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. >> >> Andrew >> >> > > ethics is like latin, few care. but i agree with you in entirety. > > michael > > At least you didn't make a "dead language" analogy. ;-) Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:19:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15389106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:19:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6F08FC20 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:19:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D76AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:19:15 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:19:14 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> In-Reply-To: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030819.15001.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: new_guy Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:19:18 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 08:36:39 new_guy wrote: > We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. > Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by > downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the > install. Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar > method to installation? You can use nanobsd (toolt/tools/nanobsd) on a flash card and possibly through PXE, but I'd never tried that. You'd still have to circumvent the bootstrap of making that image, unless someone on the list wants to share his nanobsd image. If the machines have floppies, there are downloadable floppy images. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:32:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 655E51065679 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF4C8FC17 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7367AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:32:10 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:32:10 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49AA41F2.9060801@a1poweruser.com> <200902282359.24584.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ab13fb.s7xXxGuXI7v/zFQ3%perryh@pluto.rain.com> In-Reply-To: <49ab13fb.s7xXxGuXI7v/zFQ3%perryh@pluto.rain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030832.10672.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:32:13 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 14:02:19 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > Mel wrote: > > On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote: > > > I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works > > > on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such > > > am application available? > > > > Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what > > software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the > > INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers. > > ... which may not be much of a stretch for those who are prepared > to download and trust the packages themselves, from the same place. It is a stretch in practice. The INDEX is based on /usr/ports, which is ahead of the packages that are actually compiled on the buildservers. > portupgrade -PP manages somehow. Not somehow, but because it works with /usr/ports. Try renaming your ports directory and see how that goes. Also, -PP wastes a lot of bandwidth. Just look at the ammount of packages that are downloaded which aren't actually installed, because the version is older or equal then installed. > BTW, the OP may not realize that > "the package system" is a subset of "the port system", rather than > an alternative. Packages are generated using the port system. It's an alternative way to install the same software. One can in fact use packages without having /usr/ports present at all. I'm using my own tools, using a custom INDEX format on the build server. But there's still too many raw edges that I'd like the tools released into the wild. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:36:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39FA10656C0 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80E2C8FC1B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:36:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E09AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:36:17 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:36:17 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <200902282247.22739.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <18858.39797.40001.573615@jerusalem.litteratus.org> In-Reply-To: <18858.39797.40001.573615@jerusalem.litteratus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030836.17672.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Robert Huff , lacalling Subject: Re: A problem about pkg_deinstall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:36:20 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 05:28:05 Robert Huff wrote: > Mel writes: > > Aside what Michael pointed out, ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves is much > > easier for this task. It will only delete leaves, so if b is > > still needed by X, it will not come up on the next iteration. And > > you get to see the short description of the package, so may > > decide to keep it anyway... > > I'd like to suggest a better solution is not auto-deleting in > either direction. Even if the code were perfect - of which there is > no evidence - the people are not, Unless you're (generic "you") > planning to wipe out something huge (e.g. X11, or Gnome/KDE) and > know _exactly_ what you're doing ... it's like hanging a "Kick me!" > sign around your neck. pkg_cutleaves is interactive by default. Asks confirmation for each port, then only deletes at the end of the run. Unless you explicitedly tell it to be not interactive... Really should check it out. My only beef with it is that it writes "kept" packages as package names, rather then origin, so keeping autoconf-2.56 will result in all autoconf packages to be kept next run. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 17:37:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E647910657BF for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B338FC22 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:37:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355C9AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:37:15 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsdnewb@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:37:14 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <62141.87733.qm@web111211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <62141.87733.qm@web111211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903030837.15016.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Subject: Re: Apache X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:37:17 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:26:46 Monty Pyth wrote: > It is Apache 2.2. There is no /etc/localtime and no /etc/wall_cmos_clock. > For right now I am trying to figure out why the httpd-access.log is showing > +0000. As I stated three weeks ago I saved several files from the server to > my PC at home. Both my PC(running windows XP Pro, NTFS) and the server were > both in the EST time zone. The files on my PC showed the file created and > modified dates of 02/10/2009 17:33:00. The access log shows me accessing > those files [10/Feb/2009 17:33:00 +0000]. Where is the +0000 coming from > when the time 17:33:00 is the same time my PC was set to? When I ran the > BIOS is was set to the correct date and time. Run tzsetup. Then restart apache. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. 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(adsl-074-245-053-043.sip.jax.bellsouth.net [74.245.53.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 9sm9328343ywf.36.2009.03.03.09.57.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 09:57:07 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AD6F72.9040906@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:57:06 -0500 From: michael User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gould References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <49A98ADB.2010107@bah.homeip.net> <1236080097.99160.0.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <49AD1FFB.4010008@bah.homeip.net> <001601c99bfe$fb6b6e10$f2424a30$@wakefield.sch.uk> <49AD31A4.5050000@gmail.com> <49AD4602.3030005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:57:09 -0000 Andrew Gould wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, michael > wrote: > > Andrew Gould wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:33 AM, michael > > wrote: > > > > *snip* > > ...and legalities aside, let's not forget the question of ethics. > > Andrew > > > > ethics is like latin, few care. but i agree with you in entirety. > > michael > > > At least you didn't make a "dead language" analogy. ;-) > > Andrew I was tempted to, but when i considered it, i came to the conclusion that it would just lead this thread down another rabbit trail. wrong is wrong, no matter your country. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 18:07:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D2D106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:07:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCF68FC16 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so1541419wah.27 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=zD/z+eM7GKrkAuA8859mfgsEqjCNXg69iPtcrLJBchU=; b=Gwa1F5SvB8rBcm1yoF/gOTpIXeZ0uF2wbgE8KO38TrVz6ytWq66DKjLAkU6zaDYyxY MMV2D3lmlsAYc1D+VCEpsom5TN1AYLWLxXvb9VDXbCNPSHffOBtXpDoOhvdATjZUEmJ+ YO3GnHTQZZQe0op/RSqijZ40r96B5ha7Eobp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=bH5JCgi7XqptWUwUbGoZ3UU6QmXLbBUKyN8MlXoWvHUdEJmdhSKAQFF/4FXssnYLeT uqEGPmLeX+1A+G+kW4RQ7+T8Tc8BSZ/LcDv+1j0Zej7LbBxpy2GQ3/t2kc/lSNC+P66U 6iqiPTr5D5p9ipCG5oSVbkOA7uHGm8iPrpf/4= Received: by 10.114.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr3531419wae.19.1236103644359; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (pool-71-112-33-77.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.33.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l27sm37097waf.67.2009.03.03.10.07.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:07:16 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Oppermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:07:12 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49AD22B1.8060505@bah.homeip.net> <761DDE93-C707-456F-BA01-AF10E5D57B57@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <761DDE93-C707-456F-BA01-AF10E5D57B57@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903031007.12791.chuckop@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:07:25 -0000 On Tue March 3 2009 4:40:37 am Luigi Iannone wrote: > The EULA states: > "This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with the > laws of the State of California,.." > Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial > agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the > Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this > specific case the law of California applies. In a previous message, I posted the link to the license agreements Apple uses for Mac OS. There is a Swedish language version for Sweden which appears basically the same as the United States version, but says that the laws of Sweden would apply. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 18:41:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164CC10656C2 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:41:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FAD8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so1699566ana.13 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:41:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8oEsOcfLiOyvnSngefan+r8gfYciB8YTvrLaQATGZjg=; b=vBYlFxWgUmVm6wP1waLMQITiRyHnD1bb9qhWWWY+m1VN7QR3qskR/Wr0YMjmofG+Rl uD9kdVvL1/p6Jtm+7/DTfpBIiKVSrpwrEWFpL54Fo2GNV52eOgeVhJx3bBVEZR5M2UeD 0u0TSKZlvn2qn/bayOWUpCGZUkFBMgDEWTvjI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=RXt6UGuWQlkjdLnJcIfaU3K0JSxu1nlvJIjelELNinABlcV1AntB9zZxvjrFbSJU3g bfg9n8+/GqGMq1r+7ZRW6xEpTsDvmAX4S20aQcGRd8sC9AoS9t7LRbCpaxobdwDa3uuT 6eDbekDIbaqbUL4dzE1JdRdVRiqqM76fUavLk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.83.149 with SMTP id f21mr2475151vcl.34.1236105712405; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:41:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:41:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: new_guy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:41:55 -0000 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, new_guy wrote: > > Hi, > > We normally use OpenBSD, but would like to try FreeBSD on a test system. > Usually, when updating from one OpenBSD release to another, we do so by > downloading the latest bsd.rd and booting from that to complete the > install. > Our machines have no optical drives. Does FreeBSD have a similar method to > installation? > > Thanks! > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/bsd.rd-for-FreeBSD-install-tp22292723p22292723.html > Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > Being relatively familiar with both, let me input my advice. first of all, Open and Free use different DOS-partition partition IDs, OpenBSD being A6, and FreeBSD being A5. This would be the first road block to overcome. Second, there isn't a produced single file to boot FreeBSD in a ramdisk image from the FreeBSD folks. There is one out there called mfsbsd that does that. Creating a ramdisk based kernel would work, and you'd need to shove what's in the bootonly CD into that kernel image. I doubt you'll be able to produce a kernel for FreeBSD on OpenBSD. Haven't tried it, but I bet the pmake syntax for FreeBSD will give OpenBSD problems. Running a PXE/NFS/DHCP boot server would be the first thing I'd go into to do a completely CD/DVD-less system. But you have to start from somewhere... You have to boot FreeBSD from external medium so you can prepare a hard drive. Is it a problem to float a USB CD/DVD drive around to install? would a bootserver help you in your efforts? There's just so many ways to approach this, your initial post isn't helping me to lean one way or another. Can you provide your factors why your systems are CD/DVD-less? Do these systems boot from PXE/network? when you answer these questions, something might come into mind that would benefit you most... but the different partition IDs is going to become a hurlde without a external boot medium. Let me know, --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 18:47:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7221065672 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869988FC20 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:47:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from faizi62@hotmail.com) Received: from BLU149-W69 ([65.55.111.135]) by blu0-omc4-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:47:48 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [213.100.138.217] From: Faizan ul haq Muhammad To: FreeBSD Questions Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:47:48 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 18:47:48.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CAF6D00:01C99C30] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: RE: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:47:50 -0000 =20 > From: faizi62@hotmail.com > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Date: Tue=2C 3 Mar 2009 16:48:54 +0000 > Subject: ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument >=20 >=20 > Hi all=2CI am trying to use Dummynet on a modified FreeBSD 7=20 > kernel. I haveloaded Dummynet in to the kernel > when I add pipes=2C but pipe config returns thefollowing error:#=20 > ipfw pipe 1 config delay 100msipfw:=20 > setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument > _________________________________________________________________ > Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail= =AE.=20 > http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=3DTXT_= MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme______________________________________= _________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe=2C send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd= .org" It worked when i deleted and rewrote the dummynet option in KERNEL and rebu= ild it... =20 /Regards!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to m= eet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 18:48:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EC41065746 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luigi@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BD88FC17 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:48:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luigi@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from dyn100.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (dyn100.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.100]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61B7700D487; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:17:56 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <2BCB4933-4E0F-4661-875F-0F08F422FBFA@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> From: Luigi Iannone To: Charles Oppermann In-Reply-To: <200903031007.12791.chuckop@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:17:56 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <49AD22B1.8060505@bah.homeip.net> <761DDE93-C707-456F-BA01-AF10E5D57B57@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> <200903031007.12791.chuckop@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:48:29 -0000 On Mar 3, 2009, at 19:07 , Charles Oppermann wrote: > On Tue March 3 2009 4:40:37 am Luigi Iannone wrote: >> The EULA states: >> "This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with >> the >> laws of the State of California,.." >> Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial >> agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the >> Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this >> specific case the law of California applies. > > In a previous message, I posted the link to the license agreements > Apple uses > for Mac OS. There is a Swedish language version for Sweden which > appears > basically the same as the United States version, but says that the > laws of > Sweden would apply. Strange, in the english version is clearly stated that translations are provided in the sake of clarity but legally only the english one count. Luigi > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 19:55:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1544106571C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from mx1.bjare.net (mx1.bjare.net [212.31.160.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4CB8FC18 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:55:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from leslie@eskk.nu) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FA65E308 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:33:58 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mx1.bjare.net X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.177 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.177 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.423, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from mx1.bjare.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.bjare.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id H2uf3nwV-C2Y for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:33:56 +0100 (CET) X-BN-MX1: ja X-BN-MailInfo: BjareNet Received: from blj01.no-ip.org (c-195-216-040-164.static.bjare.net [195.216.40.164]) by mx1.bjare.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA145E127 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:33:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:33:55 +0100 From: Leslie Jensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Configuring default router per NIC! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:55:03 -0000 I'm considering a Squid box serving two different networks, both with their own Internet access. Access from network 1 to default router on network 1 and Access from network 2 to default router on network 2 How do one set default router per NIC? Thanks /Leslie From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 20:07:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D927B106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:07:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julianwissmann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3139A8FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:07:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julianwissmann@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2548049fxm.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:07:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=D76n5XYBWW/ob+LZ7O8rgUgtgr54nKzDhf+UIu1hAJY=; b=LIKtMr1RhKf5BCO7/AJwMS/JQECUl2WnMuLlpEU/9XH0k1aDvFZkc0vMpf/XPldqWW njaa11Q13249rhfmzdvkU5pTm0Ag/F9VV2wvxaWRPqS+HM9PdNzFrxa5ytU7oZR1SqFz psv+MR9njxuidUfpeBRAwIq1mQa5K75u4wAoA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=RrvJKATVlikLUSLoTPPjCvXNWf524BAK0JDx89vMqrbb7eeNEnKpGyNCAG87BymCgU uxhc6NQ1xNOmZrNwtZOchf6jMOz2ER4zSodQVIoGEE5skTAcIZ7KZleo2p9ONBnF3Jpa jlnDBx3hRTTEv53HE3ltFv5OqYx599AsObKb8= Received: by 10.86.92.7 with SMTP id p7mr289095fgb.24.1236110838102; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.178.34? (p54ACE8EA.dip.t-dialin.net [84.172.232.234]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm2355629muh.52.2009.03.03.12.07.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 12:07:17 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <53BFE9BF-C901-4B6E-894F-825C235EE49A@gmail.com> From: Julian Wissmann To: Luigi Iannone In-Reply-To: <761DDE93-C707-456F-BA01-AF10E5D57B57@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:07:15 +0100 References: <630286c70902270134u18505882xbabf547190ae8747@mail.gmail.com> <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa><87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> <49AD22B1.8060505@bah.homeip.net> <761DDE93-C707-456F-BA01-AF10E5D57B57@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:07:20 -0000 Am 03.03.2009 um 13:40 schrieb Luigi Iannone: This is not right. The US doesn't recognize the judging of any other country according to proskauerguide, nor do any other countries have to recognize US law or judging. You are saying that basically every country that has signed Internation Commercial Agreement basically subordinates their own laws which is not the case. Their own laws come first. > The EULA states: > > "This License will be governed by and construed in accordance with > the laws of the State of California,.." > > Since I assume that Sweden has signed international commercial > agreements with the USA, I think that it odes not matter what the > Swedish law says about signing or not a license agreement, in this > specific case the law of California applies. > > L. > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 13:29 , Bernt Hansson wrote: > >> FBSD UG said the following on 2009-03-03 09:25: >>> On 2 mrt 2009, at 20:22, Bernt Hansson wrote: >>>> FBSD UG skrev: >>>>> >>>>> You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one >>>>> Apple computer. >>>> >>>> Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's >>>> "legal" to >>>> install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does >>>> not >>>> have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or >>>> any other >>>> brand or non brand. >> >> >>> did you sign all Swedish laws then? >> >> Kind of way, yes, since I voted in the election 2006 >> >>> How is Apple going to prevent illegal copying? >> >> They have the copyright laws, as I stated before. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org >> " > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org > " From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 20:09:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE354106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18E18FC1D for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E029AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:09:45 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:09:44 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> In-Reply-To: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903031109.44812.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Leslie Jensen Subject: Re: Configuring default router per NIC! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:09:46 -0000 On Tuesday 03 March 2009 10:33:55 Leslie Jensen wrote: > I'm considering a Squid box serving two different networks, both with > their own Internet access. > > Access from network 1 to default router on network 1 > and > Access from network 2 to default router on network 2 > > > How do one set default router per NIC? One can't as the default router is per IP stack (per machine). One can however use different routing tables per process, using setfib(1) on FreeBSD 7.1 and above. -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 20:13:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB63A106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkarapet@nd.edu) Received: from mta-3.cc.nd.edu (mta-3.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.238]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648F18FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:13:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkarapet@nd.edu) Received: from mx-p2.cc.nd.edu (mx-p2.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.58]) by mta-3.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.3.0/Switch-3.3.0) with ESMTP id n23K2gZE022461 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:02:42 -0500 Received: from mta-2.cc.nd.edu (mta-2.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.37]) by mx-p2.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.3.0/Switch-3.3.0) with ESMTP id n23K3n18010923 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:03:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (vagrant.math.nd.edu [129.74.203.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by mta-2.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.3.0/Switch-3.3.0) with ESMTP id n23K2ddO009357 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:02:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:02:39 -0500 From: David Karapetyan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090303200239.GA363@vagrant.nomad.nd.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Source-IP: 129.74.250.37 X-ND-MTA-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:03:50 EST Subject: Server encryption X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:13:34 -0000 Hello, I was wondering if it was a worthwhile endeavor to encrypt a backup hard drive on a server that I currently have in my office at school (I am a graduate student). I do have sensitive data on it (backups of my mail, as well as an msmtprc file that contains the password to a gmail account of mine). I am not particularly worried about theft of my server, but you never know. Am I simply being paranoid, or is there a considerable risk when one does not encrypt? On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:33:55PM +0100, Leslie Jensen wrote: > > I'm considering a Squid box serving two different networks, both with > their own Internet access. > > Access from network 1 to default router on network 1 > and > Access from network 2 to default router on network 2 > > > How do one set default router per NIC? > > Thanks > > /Leslie > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- -- Best, David Karapetyan http://davidkarapetyan.com University of Notre Dame Department of Mathematics 255 Hurley Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618 Phone: 574-631-5706 Cell: 202-460-5173 Fax: 574-631-6579 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 20:19:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64ED51065675 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342798FC1D for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 095A0EBC0A; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:18:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:18:57 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: David Karapetyan Message-Id: <20090303151857.3624e24b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <20090303200239.GA363@vagrant.nomad.nd.edu> References: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> <20090303200239.GA363@vagrant.nomad.nd.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server encryption X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:19:01 -0000 In response to David Karapetyan : > Hello, I was wondering if it was a worthwhile endeavor to encrypt a > backup hard drive on a server that I currently have in my office at > school (I am a graduate student). I do have sensitive data on it > (backups of my mail, as well as an msmtprc file that contains the > password to a gmail account of mine). I am not particularly worried > about theft of my server, but you never know. Am I simply being > paranoid, or is there a considerable risk when one does not encrypt? If you don't encrypt the data and the server is stolen, the thief has your data if he wants it. If you do encrypt it, the thief has to go to considerable length to steal the system without powering it down, and even then it's difficult to get the actual data. Most thieves don't care about your data. The value of the hardware is enough, and they'll probably reformat the HDD with a bootleg Windows Vista install anyway. You have to decide for yourself whether you feel the risk justifies the effort. Keep in mind that if you encrypt the drive, you'll have to enter the password any time the system is rebooted (such as after a power outage). Hope this helps. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 20:31:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80F61065687 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC738FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F1CAFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:31:22 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:31:22 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> <9B2E2AAB-0866-4D91-9A4A-4E2D81A342E6@mac.com> <649E6643-413F-41B4-AEFA-D94CFC809D00@me.com> In-Reply-To: <649E6643-413F-41B4-AEFA-D94CFC809D00@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903031131.22493.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Andrew Moran Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:31:24 -0000 On Tuesday 03 March 2009 07:26:02 Andrew Moran wrote: > On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:01 AM, Andrew Moran wrote: > > In Mar 3, 2009, at 7:40 AM, Mel wrote: > >> On Monday 02 March 2009 16:21:53 Andrew Moran wrote: > >>>> What's even weirder is that the process gets that far. Did you play > >>>> with > >>>> kern.maxdsiz loader tuneable? > >>>> If so, set it lower, so you can at least have the machine in a > >>>> usable state at > >>>> all times. 4G should be enough for any process and should give > >>>> enough time > >>>> for you to spot the leak and get a ktrace. > >>> > >>> Nope, I haven't tweaked any kernel settings, just using the generic > >>> DEFAULT amd64 kernel. I've been way about tweaking settings > >>> because > >>> I don't fully understand what the 'correct' values for my setup are. > >> > >> Could you show kenv kern.maxdsiz and if unset limits -H -d? Looks > >> like it's > >> 32G on my 6.x amd64, in which case setting it is a good idea. > >> echo 'kern.maxdsiz="8G"' >> /boot/loader.conf > >> echo 'kern.defdsiz="4G"' >> /boot/loader.conf > > > > Thank you for helping me. The earlier suggestion of toggling > > Perl Malloc didn't work, nor did syncing sources and installing new > > kernel and new world which is what I did lsat night. > > > > As for kernel settings, I don't have anything in my loader.conf, > > and I'm not entirely sure how to show things that aren't sysctls, as > > this one doesn't seem to be: > > > > celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.maxdsiz > > celebrian# sysctl -a | grep kern.defdsiz > > celebrian# > > Ok sadly that didn't seem to do much: > > celebrian# cat /boot/loader.conf > kern.maxdsiz="8G" > kern.defdsiz="4G" > celebrian# Can you show limits -H -d? > I rebooted, but still see my memory being chewed up. Almost > immediately after booting, one of my spamassassin processes spun out > of control. Here's the top with it eating 16 gigs of memory: > > PID UID THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU > COMMAND > 1611 1030 1 68 0 15062M 818M CPU2 2 0:44 20.65% > perl5.8.9 At this point, have your cd to a partition large enough to hold a few 100 megs, and type: ktrace -p 1611 where 1611 is the PID of the perl process. You may want to be a bit earlier then this point. After a few seconds, type ktrace -C. Then kdump|less. There should be plenty of allocations there (*alloc* functions). > > and from dmesg: > > > swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(3): failed > swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed > pid 1611 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space > > > The computer gets pretty unresponsive during this, unless swapoff my > swap, then the process eats the memory faster and gets killed > faster. Did I type in the wrong variables? Nope, I'm now reading up myself, I would think this works on amd64. You can see defaults in /boot/defaults/loader.conf. Maybe it only works on what top shows as RES memory (truely used memory, so overallocation is possible). In that case, set kern.defdsiz to 512M, perl should bug out earlier and probably doesn't affect normal operations (busy MySQL server might). I do hope this feature isn't obsolete on amd64, I kinda like knowing there's a guard against my programming errors ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 20:32:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA478106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkarapet@nd.edu) Received: from mx-p1.cc.nd.edu (mx-p1.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 743798FC16 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:32:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkarapet@nd.edu) Received: from osgood.cc.nd.edu (osgood.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.227]) by mx-p1.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.3.0/Switch-3.3.0) with ESMTP id n23KVOW8020639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:31:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (vagrant.math.nd.edu [129.74.203.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by osgood.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.2.2/Switch-3.2.2) with ESMTP id n23KWD3N021359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:32:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:32:13 -0500 From: David Karapetyan To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20090303203213.GC363@vagrant.nomad.nd.edu> Mail-Followup-To: Bill Moran , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <49AD8623.6050007@eskk.nu> <20090303200239.GA363@vagrant.nomad.nd.edu> <20090303151857.3624e24b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090303151857.3624e24b.wmoran@potentialtech.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Source-IP: 129.74.250.227 X-ND-MTA-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:31:25 EST Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Server encryption X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:32:19 -0000 Yes, having to enter the password in after reboot is a bit of a pain. That is not all; the encrypted drive must be fsck'd as well, which is a bit annoying. At present, I encrypt secure documents on my laptop, and leave my server unencrypted; thanks to your input, I will continue to do so. Thank you. On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 03:18:57PM -0500, Bill Moran wrote: > In response to David Karapetyan : > > > Hello, I was wondering if it was a worthwhile endeavor to encrypt a > > backup hard drive on a server that I currently have in my office at > > school (I am a graduate student). I do have sensitive data on it > > (backups of my mail, as well as an msmtprc file that contains the > > password to a gmail account of mine). I am not particularly worried > > about theft of my server, but you never know. Am I simply being > > paranoid, or is there a considerable risk when one does not encrypt? > > If you don't encrypt the data and the server is stolen, the thief > has your data if he wants it. > > If you do encrypt it, the thief has to go to considerable length to > steal the system without powering it down, and even then it's difficult > to get the actual data. > > Most thieves don't care about your data. The value of the hardware is > enough, and they'll probably reformat the HDD with a bootleg Windows > Vista install anyway. > > You have to decide for yourself whether you feel the risk justifies > the effort. Keep in mind that if you encrypt the drive, you'll have > to enter the password any time the system is rebooted (such as after > a power outage). > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Bill Moran > http://www.potentialtech.com > http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ -- -- Best, David Karapetyan http://davidkarapetyan.com University of Notre Dame Department of Mathematics 255 Hurley Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618 Phone: 574-631-5706 Cell: 202-460-5173 Fax: 574-631-6579 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 21:07:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10F1106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0518FC1A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:07:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arthurbarlow@earthlink.net) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=rA0jzcVtRc4euiYVVoXXDk7V0zdnCUokZEBX8W2t5qo5GmbfOAxUhpUb7c5ZA/Dw; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [66.77.101.6] (helo=[10.11.11.64]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lebpj-00035l-LC for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 16:07:23 -0500 Message-ID: <49AD9C0A.4050109@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:07:22 -0800 From: Arthur Barlow User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060003020000070000060402" X-ELNK-Trace: 0bd0885458bbffc5a6d650fed495db8b4d2b10475b5711209b0ed999e0aca27f5c683fdfd3775e6912dea94491bad710350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.77.101.6 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Xorg is now broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:07:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060003020000070000060402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using Freebsd 7.1 and everything had been working fine, until I noticed there were upgrades for Xorg. I went ahead and used portupgrade to upgrade the packages and now I get a server error 11. I'm including the Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf for you to examine. I'm running an older PIII based Gateway PC that uses a Premedia video card, which in turn uses the "xf86-video-glint" driver. All suggestions are welcome. --------------060003020000070000060402 Content-Type: text/plain; name="xorg.conf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="xorg.conf" Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath "/usr/local/share/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" FontPath "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "GLcore" Load "dbe" Load "dri" Load "extmod" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "xtrap" Load "freetype" # Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "Monitor Model" HorizSync 30.00 - 81.00 EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "ShadowFB" # [] #Option "DefaultRefresh" # [] #Option "ModeSetClearScreen" # [] Identifier "Card0" Driver "glint" VendorName "Texas Instruments" BoardName "TVP4020 [Permedia 2]" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Modes "1024x768" Viewport 0 0 Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Modes "1024x768" Viewport 0 0 Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Modes "1024x768" Viewport 0 0 Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Modes "1024x768" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Modes "1024x768" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --------------060003020000070000060402-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 21:10:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0E1106566C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF15B8FC18 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:10:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3050227wfd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:10:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gm2+xRt0UVvW0S2ObRK6NRKtz6IJYG7myAI4Ke3cP+o=; b=hHx4yJQ17FPWgjosJkRlm/Q1qU9874ffiJ9w9W95Fawl3NRz/Q6rSsa7iylvP/wkEe RvJPxqVH3TGHqsLXuWyTmcZvb/fqQQYEV9YvqaUU8GdlJvLKRXKHK73Tz5EL7BXefqbb WyzydOLiqgyFJKGMOjZceYnxDY3AbblVjb8Yk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=m5VPJzTVZ9ZS5GBF+CNlGB5YKRfUajwT24fWv+1C/a9zH4YcWrtWlFxip7r3CNDP7P SDKlPWegRkmaZlZlL6WZF2hcfiY0z6DMYbGJvO768dHdCC71M0GuoD26fk1vS1/2fPX6 Fd2/DfoM30NXzxbNa3Ap2vaiiv7PmrtPkCDpM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.237.19 with SMTP id k19mr3780725wfh.209.1236114634150; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:10:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:10:35 -0000 On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Glen Barber wrot= e: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 2:24 PM, APseudoUtopia w= rote: > [snip] >> >> ##### >> # User www's crontab >> # Note, I also tried removing the MAILTO to no avail >> ##### >> MAILTO=3Droot >> # m =C2=A0 =C2=A0 h =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 dom =C2=A0 =C2=A0 mon =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 dow =C2=A0 =C2=A0 cmd >> * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 echo "Hello" >> >> > [snip] > > 1.) =C2=A0You are not using the full path to /bin/echo, which is why it i= s failing. > > 2.) This is a poor designed way to test cron's mail output. > > A Better(tm) way would be something like: > MAILTO=3Droot > */5 * * * * /bin/ping -c1 localhost >/dev/null > > which would mail to root on success or failure. > > Regards, > > -- > Glen Barber > Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a daily basis): SHELL=3D/bin/sh MAILTO=3Dmy_email_account@gmail.com * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the following output: Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=3Dwww, size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, msgid=3D<200903032110.n23LA0td086797@subdomain.domain.tld>, relay=3Dwww@localhost From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 21:17:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0189A106566B for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:17:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829868FC12 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:17:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2572862fxm.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:17:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eaYLH+g4J4qYnc9q+UaYYUKLIsOSNjQ50UBimWabFIg=; b=E/3u/yzwxwk4arr923mjsoVQ20vtfWCC4OYyT9fDoxEDZGbJfiqszhjhgVot5MShrC 8FcJQ2/0LXzbuugrK/m+M5eoIpq1/pia1ZTk2EhPMRvZbJ7T9WYlxXt4OTHJKlpCAjrU 7aDAiBVxO1pm7Ls5XqGZc77o2sDQNroQrRw3I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aOghfcjr50hRF9OZeR3cZI/6HS9cXgBatTb/BzTibbYVU6jw+zcBpGPM1dgv//N2Hr gAiejpcaGROomRukLPjzIKMqlqTKPaJbZxt6dGDhkhCP1x9sRRlzR+xr2fSgdIlu7w++ WgLprwKptvk9zBPnbLxahG00fl8+u06CUktS0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.72 with SMTP id s8mr6596192fao.9.1236115070442; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:17:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:17:52 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia wro= te: > Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user > account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a > daily basis): > > SHELL=3D/bin/sh > MAILTO=3Dmy_email_account@gmail.com > * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 * =A0 =A0 =A0 /sb= in/ping -c4 localhost > > I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the > following output: > > Mar =A03 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=3Dwww, > size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, > msgid=3D<200903032110.n23LA0td086797@subdomain.domain.tld>, > relay=3Dwww@localhost > You've replaced a problem with another problem. Have you tried to send the mail locally first? --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 21:52:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C955F1065670 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE6A8FC1D for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:52:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49A540400027EC3A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:52:18 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvJTANI1rUlV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBToc8g0cPhmCBHQEBAQE1swkIj0uCTgiBMAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,297,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="493031851" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 03 Mar 2009 22:52:06 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n23Lq5VP073099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:52:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:52:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=F6m?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:52:20 -0000 Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: >> Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user >> account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a >> daily basis): >> >> SHELL=/bin/sh >> MAILTO=my_email_account@gmail.com >> * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost >> >> I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the >> following output: >> >> Mar 3 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=www, >> size=0, class=0, nrcpts=0, >> msgid=<200903032110.n23LA0td086797@subdomain.domain.tld>, >> relay=www@localhost Isn't "www@localhost" a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really resolve that into an IP address? /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 22:29:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69F3106564A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF198FC08 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:29:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so1674484ywt.13 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:29:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bb/42TsySMoauO9Hx3aF+c3lnlPQDwq/IbWt6lMN3Qo=; b=t3C6eF4r1xSdee8e1RNmOejJKxYjRQbPhwfPQ1rS6ssCjwQx6oHVfHVtBc0P75347a 3kV8UGd4AC/DqO489Z/jaRWmk6PFICI7hLJt5EaAf0PgBd71HnzSL+wVXRU0gYKjjPBt muZECEGTTGGrsYnqTy9Gb329BhRn7MIQ7LayI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CasJYxU+97FM/rxyfoF+AmZpLQZPB18dj3DdP+7YJML+BDqe5dMcN0Oxw8xBWfPGIx oSwuqWGcdoCK9mY4dOkeIXfSKatvc7Vjvun2YeHlJ5IngIsjjgvo4upMQ/QYx7776Beq 6/xEgxZtkisu+6ARaxVPu/mRaWllTauhz/um0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.107.5 with SMTP id f5mr943657wfc.130.1236119342216; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:29:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:29:02 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903031429ldb69344hcbff8fe4eb6a4a91@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:29:03 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Glen Barber wrote= : > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia w= rote: >> Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user >> account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a >> daily basis): >> >> SHELL=3D/bin/sh >> MAILTO=3Dmy_email_account@gmail.com >> * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /sbin/ping -c4 localhost >> >> I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the >> following output: >> >> Mar =C2=A03 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=3Dwww, >> size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, >> msgid=3D<200903032110.n23LA0td086797@subdomain.domain.tld>, >> relay=3Dwww@localhost >> > > You've replaced a problem with another problem. =C2=A0Have you tried to > send the mail locally first? > > -- > Glen Barber > I have tested it - and sending mail manually from command line to the gmail account works fine without any problems. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 22:38:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D011065670 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565D08FC12 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n23McWR4062990; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:38:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n23McUw1062987; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:38:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:38:30 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Arthur Barlow In-Reply-To: <49AD9C0A.4050109@earthlink.net> Message-ID: References: <49AD9C0A.4050109@earthlink.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg is now broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:38:50 -0000 > I'm using Freebsd 7.1 and everything had been working fine, until I noticed > there were upgrades for Xorg. I went ahead and used portupgrade to upgrade > the packages and now I get a server error 11. I'm including the Xorg.0.log > and xorg.conf for you to examine. > good lesson to not change things that are working :) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 22:44:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB42C1065674 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB57A8FC15 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:44:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3084236wfd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:44:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hDw87umY/4n124hfRI7ptHp1CIRaFJVDtm0w00Xnsts=; b=K4nGXie+ZapIVN1pBqpIqs6DlwbTQmL51p3sKRLcdsRiZEbH0W1tzTgP8lApmX/foQ HnyYLjSw69Ea5BexJyZX67KCKHWUCNCIF4hVVyijwrbXuoSSQhEDSuHJ5gx8Mp1XxCG7 dZHlheUF3O9lL7Aac+2OIb68IQ0EtjqLT215g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=p7vDrFoIWEuNtQgGJCjgMBigaL5i89PPyzQWkdOmsg9LDvzneb/U9kaFVGW1NytUhv RNmRIe9P/ivN7QG90lELq7S+gPCknNegzR3Pj96o94z0bmt4E4kfRen3vQ4JM2zv/ClW /RWD1PseVZj0yutlnKkR+tyPgT5pXDDjhI3RM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.12.14 with SMTP id 14mr3829792wfl.21.1236120274294; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:44:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:44:34 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:44:35 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m wrote: > > Glen Barber wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia = wrote: >>> Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user >>> account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a >>> daily basis): >>> >>> SHELL=3D/bin/sh >>> MAILTO=3Dmy_email_account@gmail.com >>> * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /sbin/ping -c4 localhost >>> >>> I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the >>> following output: >>> >>> Mar =C2=A03 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=3Dwww= , >>> size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, >>> msgid=3D<200903032110.n23LA0td086797@subdomain.domain.tld>, >>> relay=3Dwww@localhost > > Isn't "www@localhost" a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really > resolve that into an IP address? > /Morgan Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 22:44:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD211065677 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:44:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDBA8FC17 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2600028fxm.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:44:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pl81ua8PVNfUlRoFHqloluaPsyIQIC6cDSoKdLCcG/k=; b=TeZ3FdxL0qriX4uRyNrA5UI/+E9g6mFYiThWdxU3y/pthd9dcdJol7YmxpPVosB9YJ /Nr4mhpgRIQCk319NlnGbZ6kbcq4w7lON2FT7VclULM6SdLY7vfNeXpmhJWftk83EF8l leFuVnjMIQtdi59DM5laqxVzv58TTtlEZ567I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IZZhVwaZoRVo5j4fDqy/aObPGlougfJOKMqVxpwN4GwqMQFWkZWVh4FOm5aI4LGV9O 1bI4ajaZtua+I3DkGtBBbMI3/dw87qd0oPxRCgqtg2C6DIn2GmFJ65XeMrRHHCFirD+m bbndZdLlr3WO3NfZ2PBKedMPrSiyijdh04b9I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.108.15 with SMTP id d15mr7490912fap.105.1236120280585; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:44:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903031429ldb69344hcbff8fe4eb6a4a91@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031429ldb69344hcbff8fe4eb6a4a91@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903031444w16e20744j2f8f148f6289363c@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: APseudoUtopia Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:44:42 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, APseudoUtopia wrote: > > I have tested it - and sending mail manually from command line to the > gmail account works fine without any problems. > What I'm saying is that you changed two of the variables without actually verifying one or the other work first. Change the MAILTO back to root and retest. -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 22:49:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2079410656C2 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:49:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.173]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ED68FC1C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:49:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3085894wfd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:49:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/0zeTuxbGLUpGBRdqZFLg7HPhJcKXZvfq1FANUyiz3A=; b=sVTW2fp+Z6wKqqIwFmJVzS30ep2dgoDSqpDP3VNZIdM6I1X1NAVzzhSaGiphySKuJa aw5YeCoRFC5x2TTmJKBll3hD6WZu06q1KHT/UHqlGZt5J1mWqxkzQ5M6RJgjL/pqKl1N QPZZvtS+I4uLKdkhHr2KXIhMKF2ZL4u8YMlz4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NNsDrGormzQBfF3BJPUmVWxonHdMlhUFJLk4Laa1HQM4ustjiHvdxKy15iq/hBw8OO p40pnQuQUrBn7TN6/qu7B21N00vBijxSKA6QwXBXZUUENxK7NWUeA4/WxG1m6P8G1W0Q NSm8IGQFL8DnzgyF13DWlTSoELNYB+mcwBP/Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.8.17 with SMTP id l17mr3830897wfi.173.1236120548259; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:49:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903031444w16e20744j2f8f148f6289363c@mail.gmail.com> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903021914q647d6a40ncdb0bb9d8a3582c9@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031310u6d7956u830938f27ea535c6@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903031317q353395edh401700f8d4ce9b4c@mail.gmail.com> <27ade5280903031429ldb69344hcbff8fe4eb6a4a91@mail.gmail.com> <4ad871310903031444w16e20744j2f8f148f6289363c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:49:08 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903031449w698a14f7xbf932a4b768023@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: Glen Barber Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:49:11 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Glen Barber wrote= : > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:29 PM, APseudoUtopia w= rote: >> >> I have tested it - and sending mail manually from command line to the >> gmail account works fine without any problems. >> > > What I'm saying is that you changed two of the variables without > actually verifying one or the other work first. =C2=A0Change the MAILTO > back to root and retest. > > > -- > Glen Barber > SHELL=3D/bin/sh #MAILTO=3Dstaff@tastetherainbow.ws MAILTO=3Droot * * * * * /sbin/ping -c4 localhost Still no email. Same message in the maillog: Mar 3 22:48:00 youcant sendmail[92113]: n23Mm0vP092113: from=3Dwww, size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, msgid=3D<200903032248.n23Mm0vP092113@youcant.tastetherainbow.ws>, relay=3Dwww@localhost This is driving me crazy :-\ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 23:09:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380C01065674 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B9B8FC17 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:09:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB940AFC1FE; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:09:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:09:43 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Morgan =?utf-8?q?Wesstr=C3=B6m?= , APseudoUtopia Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:09:45 -0000 On Tuesday 03 March 2009 13:44:34 APseudoUtopia wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m > > wrote: > > Glen Barber wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:10 PM, APseudoUtopia =20 wrote: > >>> Thanks for the tips. I've put the following line in my normal user > >>> account's crontab (This account does have a shell, it's one I use on a > >>> daily basis): > >>> > >>> SHELL=3D/bin/sh > >>> MAILTO=3Dmy_email_account@gmail.com > >>> * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 * =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /sbin/ping -c4 localhost > >>> > >>> I'm getting no emails at all. In /var/log/maillog, I'm getting the > >>> following output: > >>> > >>> Mar =C2=A03 21:10:00 domain sendmail[86797]: n23LA0td086797: from=3Dw= ww, > >>> size=3D0, class=3D0, nrcpts=3D0, > >>> msgid=3D<200903032110.n23LA0td086797@subdomain.domain.tld>, > >>> relay=3Dwww@localhost > > > > Isn't "www@localhost" a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really > > resolve that into an IP address? > > /Morgan > > Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is > set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through > localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers? If grep 'n23LA0td086797' /var/log/maillog only yields one entry, then=20 something is wrong with your email setup. There should at least be one more= =20 entry from the spooler to pickup final destination. And yes, the=20 relay 'www@localhost' seems odd, but since I gave up sendmail for postfix=20 years ago, I'm not current with how it spits things into syslog. =2D-=20 Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 23:11:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622A71065676 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:11:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6E958FC19 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:11:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2607334fxm.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:11:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Dk+VPb4y0t+DPItRaBpYjwiQ5H9ttjiSJCkdTIF8zIM=; b=SeZsjm6SQ+6ruhzi5XDSdThxFWB5QLsZVGvhs9yeFiLXpDH9hmrV6cSJ9AmeBCQf/R 1/nntM2KNXTRWkeZf1Tm4hyDOifP8kcBt0EP4PAGJzhpu9YCKdfRbUyzxyoKQ/8z1TCt YkH8mUfD/XNxn9QTVwbKtyt+QyFQ25eTSWDvc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pK8HqWciEyCJiOh51ky2QGWCf7FWGhpeUts9e1HzxMum5P04GsptI0ggg/u4TJA87F Jl1qTJF4WAOW0KfP4xbZQPygLO1MpiQF7G0SWK3rJB//AIoMivI23z5TsoRH/WpZF1jy 9n7KLeQYFITZJre8h1SbMMoqcuZOuEk+OOJSY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.9 with SMTP id y9mr7528884fap.61.1236121885875; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:11:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <49AD9C0A.4050109@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903031511m20abcee2v7ae0f6471b1958cf@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: Arthur Barlow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg is now broken X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:11:28 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: something useless, again. I don't see your Xorg.0.log attached. Did you read /usr/ports/UPDATING regarding the X11 upgrade? -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 23:15:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2415106567A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C47EA8FC0A for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.lan.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1C6AFC208; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:15:03 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Frank Shute Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:15:03 -0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> <20090301155935.GA15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20090301155935.GA15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903031415.03176.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: Fbsd1 Subject: Re: bsdstats not working in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:15:04 -0000 On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:59:35 Frank Shute wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:20:21PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > > bsdstats is now in the base system. > > On what? In PC-BSD since forever, maybe OP is confuzzled a bit ;) -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 3 23:48:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6126D1065673 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:48:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B2F8FC0C for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:48:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49A54040002856E7 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:48:28 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: At9eALtQrUlV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBTpISgR0BAQEBNcINhAgG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,297,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="493048107" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 00:48:28 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n23NmRDg075147 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:48:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49ADC1CA.5090703@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:48:26 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:48:30 -0000 >>>>> relay=www@localhost >>> Isn't "www@localhost" a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you really >>> resolve that into an IP address? >>> /Morgan >> Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is >> set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through >> localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers? > > If grep 'n23LA0td086797' /var/log/maillog only yields one entry, then > something is wrong with your email setup. There should at least be one more > entry from the spooler to pickup final destination. And yes, the > relay 'www@localhost' seems odd, but since I gave up sendmail for postfix > years ago, I'm not current with how it spits things into syslog. > In my case I only see either "local" there or my smart host as defined in /var/mail/{hostname}.mc Can you provide a "diff -u" between /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and /etc/mail/{hostname}.mc ? /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 00:15:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66740106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A478FC17 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:15:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.173.15]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:15:10 -0800 Message-ID: <49ADC81F.7000707@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:15:27 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 00:15:10.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[48111DF0:01C99C5E] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: purpose of /etc/wall_cmos_clock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:15:30 -0000 What is /etc/wall_cmos_clock used for and how is it created? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 00:22:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96A8A106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803888FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:22:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.173.15]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:21:39 -0800 Message-ID: <49ADC9A4.2020207@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:21:56 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jean-Paul Natola References: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E41B4@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E41B4@www.fcimail.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 00:21:40.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[30373380:01C99C5F] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Cc: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: desktop app/config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:22:00 -0000 Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > "Jean-Paul Natola" wrote: > > >> Ok so I left the machine running over the weekend to install KDE, >> >> And when I got in this morning it said that my disk was out of space- >> I loaded nothing but the basic freebsd os and nothing other than kde >> (granted its only a 10 gig drive) but that should be enough for a kde >> desktop no? > >>>> It may be that you need to clean-out the workspaces with >>>> rm -rf /usr/ports/*/*/work, and start again. > >>>> BTW I'd go for KDE3 rather than KDE4. The latter still seems to be very >>>> fragile to me, and it needs a fairly up-to-date machine, with and a well >>>> supported 3-d graphics card if you want the effects. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > So I followed the instructions above, and after a few days I wount up again > with my 6 gig slice filling up before kde3 could install- > > I must be doing something wrong if I cant install kde 3 on a 6 gig slice? > > You would be better off to install the package version of kde. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 01:01:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8DF1065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:01:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: from mail.team1internet.com (mail.team1internet.com [216.110.13.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7A58FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:01:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lars@larseighner.com) Received: by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix, from userid 12346) id 6619B16B534; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:01:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from larseighner.com (unknown [216.110.13.73]) by mail.team1internet.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 16EFA16B52C; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:01:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by larseighner.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1001 lars@larseighner.com; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:59:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:59:46 -0600 (CST) From: Lars Eighner X-X-Sender: lars@debranded.6dollardialup.com To: Fbsd1 In-Reply-To: <49ADC81F.7000707@a1poweruser.com> Message-ID: <20090303185255.M51873@qroenaqrq.6qbyyneqvnyhc.pbz> References: <49ADC81F.7000707@a1poweruser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Sanitizer: Anomy and SpamAssassin mail filter - see http://www.6dollardialup.com/support/spaminfo.html Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: purpose of /etc/wall_cmos_clock X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:01:16 -0000 On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Fbsd1 wrote: > What is /etc/wall_cmos_clock used for and how is it created? I thought we covered this last time. If the zero-length file exits, it indicates the hardware (cmos) clock keeps local time. If it is absent, UCT is assumed. See man 8 adjkerntz (and numerous SEE ALSOs). -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 01:19:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF59D106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF808FC13 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:19:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3142673wfd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:19:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=I6k7Q+2N1JpJZz4V9JS+PXK1v+hpK/3i01dXfCmIVVc=; b=Zp/wfpiB/3aPBFC+dc11ClUNjl/MlFqpwiPQX93f8NC9oUrAmGZsY45U6u61oYXvfQ uJZbjK7+8hCPTH3xWci/7a/R5kRbwhDAGo7uXeKTmldPMFD89LMmoenR/SS55IwQRysa dZ8bgywlGAu3kvtNxgd/+F/XCCuGzS6TaNy/I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I6/mOWLyRtKj1NJRSJ10a3BXF3Oi01mab7W+pBiPomPsepquQBWGWJ7spvJCFpsAxg h093q+qCR2wZV6pHQkj6VFUcM/ZWCzNTDDaKi/E5ycXTSFk1KbUU83bDMiPblFwAC/OS QCZB00aY72BjF88LzsNc0eCxh7T2QNL/oQCh0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.58.5 with SMTP id g5mr3899741wfa.170.1236129546125; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:19:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49ADC1CA.5090703@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ADC1CA.5090703@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903031719j60679b72r23e3f8fa41a9e86e@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:19:06 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m wrote: >>>>>> relay=3Dwww@localhost >>>> Isn't "www@localhost" a very weird hostname for a relay? Can you reall= y >>>> resolve that into an IP address? >>>> /Morgan >>> Hm, I'm not sure where it's getting that from. The MAILTO variable is >>> set in the crontab, so it shouldn't be going to or relaying through >>> localhost at all, right? It should go directly to gmail's servers? >> >> If grep 'n23LA0td086797' /var/log/maillog only yields one entry, then >> something is wrong with your email setup. There should at least be one m= ore >> entry from the spooler to pickup final destination. And yes, the >> relay 'www@localhost' seems odd, but since I gave up sendmail for postfi= x >> years ago, I'm not current with how it spits things into syslog. >> > > In my case I only see either "local" there or my smart host as defined > in /var/mail/{hostname}.mc > Can you provide a "diff -u" between /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and > /etc/mail/{hostname}.mc ? > > /Morgan I'd switch over to postfix, but I'm only using this to send output from cron and the daily security run scripts. I don't receive any mail over the network, so I think it'd be pointless to go through the effort of switching and configuring another MTA. Here's the diff. I figured it was too long to include in the email (word wrap will make it hard to read :-P) http://pastebin.ca/1352338 Here's the full contents of /etc/mail/{hostname}.mc http://pastebin.ca/1352340 Thanks for the help. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 02:36:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8CE106564A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 02:36:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410CC8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 02:36:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n242a58W063219; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:36:05 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:36:04 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Mel In-Reply-To: <20090303173238.5E43010656EE@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090304124451.P71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090303173238.5E43010656EE@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: Re: portmanager/portmaster like application for packages? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:36:12 -0000 On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:32:10 -0900 Mel wrote: > On Sunday 01 March 2009 14:02:19 perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Mel wrote: > > > On Saturday 28 February 2009 23:06:10 Fbsd1 wrote: > > > > I am looking for software like portmanager/portmaster but works > > > > on the package system instead of the port system. Is there such > > > > am application available? > > > > > > Not (yet). Without /usr/ports it's impossible to find out what > > > software needs updating, or you'd have to download and trust the > > > INDEX-7 on the FreeBSD package servers. > > > > ... which may not be much of a stretch for those who are prepared > > to download and trust the packages themselves, from the same place. > > It is a stretch in practice. The INDEX is based on /usr/ports, which is ahead > of the packages that are actually compiled on the buildservers. Well, sometimes by a day or two, so I guess if you're portupgrading daily or whatever. For larger portupgrades after a while (as I tend :) I very rarely miss finding all the latest packages, ie as perryh said: > > portupgrade -PP manages somehow. > > Not somehow, but because it works with /usr/ports. Try renaming your ports > directory and see how that goes. Also, -PP wastes a lot of bandwidth. Just > look at the ammount of packages that are downloaded which aren't actually > installed, because the version is older or equal then installed. I don't get your latter point, Mel. Assuming the ports tree is up to date (I can't comment on using just an INDEX without a ports tree) then the package versions obtained using -PP match those in the ports tree; I don't recall it ever downloading older packages than the ports versions? > > BTW, the OP may not realize that > > "the package system" is a subset of "the port system", rather than > > an alternative. Packages are generated using the port system. > > It's an alternative way to install the same software. One can in fact use > packages without having /usr/ports present at all. I'm using my own tools, > using a custom INDEX format on the build server. But there's still too many > raw edges that I'd like the tools released into the wild. Fair enough, but I think perryh's point stands; many people appear to believe that ports and packages are separate systems. We've even seen people say "you shouldn't mix the two methods" which is utter nonsense. For a large (likely overdue :) portupgrade session, after updating the tree I start with portupgrade -anPP which fetches all available packages to /usr/ports/packages, without updating anything yet. Sometimes some regional mirrors aren't quite up to date, so I might need to finish off with a visit to somewhere closer to (ultimately) ftp.freebsd.org. Then portupgrade -aP uses the (now local) packages, builds any ports for which there is no package for licence etc reasons, sometimes grabbing a few more dependent packages along the way, but my poor lil' ol' laptop doesn't need to spend days compiling Xorg, KDE, openoffice if you use it, and a bunch of other big ports; it only takes quite a few hours :) and a little extra bandwidth saving days of building is fine by me .. The only largish port that always needs (re)building here is PHP, where the default options and thus the built package - weirdly, in my view - doesn't include mod_php, though I bet most PHP users wanted it for that. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 03:26:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F40106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 03:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628D38FC17 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 03:26:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n243NJrN083464 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:23:20 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n243QHY1041181; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:26:17 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:26:17 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Subject: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:26:20 -0000 Hi, I have a couple of new Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 16GB RAM and I found the following issue when trying to install FreeBSD. FreeBSD i386 6.4_RELENG ======================= 8 GB RAM: OK except "acpi_alloc_makeop_handler: can't alloc wake memory" corrected with PR 120515 16GB RAM: panic: "pmap_mapdev: could'n allocate kernel vistual memory" when loading miibus 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads, cannot read the error message (several pages) FreeBSD i386 7.1 ================ Plain distribution, I have not yet upgraded to RELENG. It reports for each CPU, on GENERIC and PAE kernel: cpu0: on acpi0 est0: on cpu0 est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471b471b0600471b 8 GB RAM: OK 16GB RAM: OK 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads I got the 32GB RAM by combining the memory from both servers. I'd prefer using legacy kernel (6.4) but I beleive 7.1 is OK too. One of the server will not be installed for a while and I could run test on it if I am directed what to doo. I can repost to a more appropriate list if I am told what list would be the best. TIA, Olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 04:05:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B28A1065672 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:05:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4388FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:05:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LeiMY-0001YL-Pb; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:05:42 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n2445fiL007766; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:05:42 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D446FFCA4DB; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:05:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:05:35 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Mel Message-ID: <20090304040535.GA29767@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Mel , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 References: <49AA6F75.2080602@a1poweruser.com> <20090301155935.GA15344@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <200903031415.03176.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200903031415.03176.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:05:42 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Fbsd1 Subject: Re: bsdstats not working in 7.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:05:48 -0000 On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 02:15:03PM -0900, Mel wrote: > > On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:59:35 Frank Shute wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 07:20:21PM +0800, Fbsd1 wrote: > > > bsdstats is now in the base system. > > > > On what? > > In PC-BSD since forever, maybe OP is confuzzled a bit ;) Ah! That confuzzled me too! For the OP's benefit: $ pkg_info -D bsdstats* Information for bsdstats-5.4_2: Install notice: This script, meant to be run monthly, submits statistics anonymously to a central checkin server (http://bsdstats.org), in an attempt to generate reasonably accurate demographics of both *BSD usage, as well as devices in use. Steps have been taken to make eliminate security concerns brought up in earlier releases of this, including, but not limited to, not storing anything in the database that has been deemed as 'sensitive' (ie. IP of the reporting server, and hostname). ******************** To enable monthly reporting, edit or create /etc/periodic.conf and add this line: monthly_statistics_enable="YES" To enable boottime reporting, edit or create /etc/rc.conf and add this line: bsdstats_enable="YES" To enable device reporting, add this line: monthly_statistics_report_devices="YES" To enable ports reporting, add this line: monthly_statistics_report_ports="YES" To run it manually the first time, just run it as: ${LOCALBASE}/etc/periodic/monthly/300.statistics -nodelay To view current statistics, go to: http://www.bsdstats.org ******************** So it looks like the OPs system is just reporting on boot. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 04:40:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D221065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.229]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD1B8FC15 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:40:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so3571393rvb.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:40:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=jkRvoDvUSyWXFWu3NDoJXzj511AX8uOmc9Vhcae1sNM=; b=a+o1KDbRiHFbd647CT2PknqkouQRkBS4+AE5IhKeZap8qyfoAZ/3kueZAfbAtG0T7L WzyMcczc2CcrhUklc+fMTeuh4kFtXLzc1BtS3NnckRH68cB8WTF83I0pl1reUhh2LNIt obxGL4zi+pEV1UkjDFqEaF6pm0FfUJnSrtjLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=gl4OdW21pWXlrYczFZF434Sk+fUrWK6RzwlcdPGo5j2jjh7B6vTFcvPEx9QKDyWzGv RHabQjG0idFBoV1WTAw4pCDoCEjq1c4LBalrRiB4xh3Z22or29IHSRR2VbF5dxrkldr/ JdjEc/RzqDtMhgy7ZrrKHmsw9mTF2CszgM61s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.100.1 with SMTP id x1mr3979834wfb.256.1236141654752; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:40:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:40:54 +0800 Message-ID: From: lacalling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:40:55 -0000 I forget to change shell before I deinstalled bash. A errer occurs when i try to login with my user or root. And it returns to login. I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few tools are provided. How can I change my shell to sh without logining? I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda ,it says no such device. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 04:49:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7C7106566C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:49:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from mail.cs.ait.ac.th (mail.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FA68FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from on@cs.ait.ac.th) Received: from banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (banyan.cs.ait.ac.th [192.41.170.5]) by mail.cs.ait.ac.th (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n244kO01087045 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:46:24 +0700 (ICT) (envelope-from on@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th) Received: (from on@localhost) by banyan.cs.ait.ac.th (8.14.2/8.12.11) id n244nLMc052523; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:49:21 +0700 (ICT) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:49:21 +0700 (ICT) Message-Id: <200903040449.n244nLMc052523@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> From: Olivier Nicole To: lacalling@gmail.com In-reply-to: (message from lacalling on Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:40:54 +0800) References: X-Virus-Scanned: on CSIM by amavisd-milter (http://www.amavis.org/) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:49:25 -0000 Hi, > How can I change my shell to sh without logining? You cannot! But what you can: - boot in singkle user mode - mount all your s=disks: mount -a - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor Bests, olivier From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 04:57:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE2C106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26288FC19 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 04:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so7306727gxk.19 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:57:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qO9Pcfezh3mAjcqSbiAV5vbsx4OWpVONDMh5ikV74fs=; b=dbey5UsyLF5XwSfDLXOxBaZhX9bI57zcdxy7b57zU3EGfldzg9lisehFnqw3+LsLt9 34Vq7nqr3zBGoCzUd8U1MoVqMj53QcSHhFZ3UlxskA4ItAVlYYYfJOY5NaQZR9S3VYiw Dl8rmjvObAlvShOck4mRKrQUlOICV/7crFpRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SEZWMHkGKrPx833Mv1FtkfVWAzjoTOVUkUTNdJjO9C/fnBb7nTmGtonG3cOdk+N94M Qm3mqQ7YHFqFfgfJ4kgDM55IZZzXr4tnur+stNxyH5A4nL2r5238zqPED9sqO4qibUwh DJtTmXPQTT2dyhKdt5pnMYajItjHGJPpxm+uE= Received: by 10.150.140.6 with SMTP id n6mr13935935ybd.69.1236142666062; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p27sm20559246ele.18.2009.03.03.20.57.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:57:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AE0A42.8010506@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:57:38 -0500 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lacalling References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:57:47 -0000 lacalling wrote: > I forget to change shell before I deinstalled bash. > A errer occurs when i try to login with my user or root. And it returns to > login. > > I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few > tools are provided. > > How can I change my shell to sh without logining? > > I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda > ,it says no such device. > > Thanks. Have you tried 'chsh -s /bin/sh' ? mount /usr, it's in /usr/bin/chsh by default. This is one of the reasons to leave the root shell at a safe default. Alternatively, a different super-user account could be created to avoid this problem -- leaving root with it's mostly stock (safe) setup. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 05:01:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2D7106564A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37CF8FC16 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:01:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bryant.eadon@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so1740517ywt.13 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:01:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jmPwauogkK8uPdKYuMZSRWP0c/rHnRqRw9ju35Dyx4Y=; b=u/6j2kL7OnlZ5uogtCePE3nM47YYiog7oNYKRditlo8SumlQgtjpbYYyi2XkphU0p7 LEaldajNdqIFXgPc05GOzM0kZ103dGT8AvthLTFbE3eN0M48+chmbeJF/aZlAvuozrwj SBZNCRGFIRmw/S6RIpfjZenNG7pvOzMtzRkH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PMONizJGSM3qLJh3ipGO8gsRFm0DKZbTQvH99h0zmUQTJVwsa3WpnnnXZXrH5u4yTn QqOqFYsK/Igf0gFoPK+b2lmgvMTipbzBu4abl4VVIxa0KDwzubzbCkiSE2pQYcjG1XGq Pm0kg20jpEpPsNA7HJWmQldJgLHjeuN235KVk= Received: by 10.150.122.18 with SMTP id u18mr1591673ybc.20.1236142886781; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.4? (itsf207.itsnpt.com [64.119.85.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n26sm19184252ele.2.2009.03.03.21.01.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:01:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49AE0B1F.7000704@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:01:19 -0500 From: Bryant Eadon User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lacalling References: <49AE0A42.8010506@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49AE0A42.8010506@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bryant.eadon@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:01:28 -0000 Bryant Eadon wrote: > lacalling wrote: >> I forget to change shell before I deinstalled bash. >> A errer occurs when i try to login with my user or root. And it >> returns to >> login. >> >> I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few >> tools are provided. >> >> How can I change my shell to sh without logining? >> >> I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount >> /dev/hda >> ,it says no such device. >> >> Thanks. > > Have you tried 'chsh -s /bin/sh' ? > mount /usr, it's in /usr/bin/chsh by default. > > This is one of the reasons to leave the root shell at a safe default. > Alternatively, a different super-user account could be created to avoid > this problem -- leaving root with it's mostly stock (safe) setup. > I should note that you'll need to be logged in as single user. And according to the man pages it should go something like this : /usr/bin/chsh -s /bin/sh root (not tested) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 05:02:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EBB1065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DADB8FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:02:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so7308988gxk.19 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:02:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ItM/StrGq/4lVUevr3Uf/9f1Gq9HUjvFxPxF0s3XNQI=; b=nK9GWOPK6wgcE54HCvIj6EfcQiJGb8c42u7ya3h0x555Vjm9TsdKh9jhgYj3dGT3j+ Ccqa+3+Ta4x/u2/01wgi075bwPQit3sxJGT56Kn6dq8iPaheTp8PlvWkq3+MLHHcRCCd u359ORzxPhH+jRaCP16F3Cih3w6vQDyf6hlQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=fry4oFag/Sp4ZfUzAcocPJIh7REbGclw8YyZpWECTOwBV+QtVEpsMODT4z8BD8v1yW bII+gLATK0P1TBx9F1rgoZcrQGoj31vbMGdd/KdNkrczE76uaOU6ot37siDLRYPRnEJ9 ghjr68McpYirCA1OTlP7Q+4NKjEw64Ke+vIZc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.76.132 with SMTP id c4mr2663187vck.94.1236142934686; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:02:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200903040449.n244nLMc052523@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200903040449.n244nLMc052523@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:02:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lacalling@gmail.com Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:02:16 -0000 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > > How can I change my shell to sh without logining? > > You cannot! > > But what you can: > > - boot in singkle user mode > - mount all your s=disks: mount -a > - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor > > Bests, > > olivier WRONG! DO NOT EDIT /etc/passwd DIRECTLY!!! vipw, or change your EDITOR environment variable to use something else other than vi. Otherwise correct. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 05:49:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2722A106564A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:49:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.174]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC26B8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3246527wfd.7 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:49:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EQwjXelBrfr0y2ffMmGoc0g4HbtULl5UKmVoYJSg9C8=; b=V/RqhDIfRqHzaR5yTkzTPUGbm+R5EWVFw54VHxMVq/o/kS/QojNVhXnzZsinDXMkUg 09f3RQnriI8lXQcq8Y+PGvZVaijM8OB5o09pgFh0piTuoTvBrR7wJJzNhYAyKWkwpPl4 Fg+q+0VmQFELi/Cy+RYeBAlhiCif9HTOmRg84= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ow+tycLXSa8c5/EbjDFzCb36kc/84gv/o1wy3KDZ54UwvIgzn5s0XeFrfIcOym5M5y kkWrEOL5nIpmeJrmXlmYo9kTVh67l8eebbGfjLOzNsLezoqumcPDZdrPRf27Uj9U5R8i pC20DFmLCTbt19L6DU4mVE2o3zRmf0DbIT68Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.101.17 with SMTP id y17mr4019366wfb.69.1236145771640; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:49:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <200903040449.n244nLMc052523@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:49:31 +0800 Message-ID: From: lacalling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:49:32 -0000 I tried to vi /etc/passwd and change the path of shell to sh from bash. it did not work coz it is encrypted? anyway i suceessed with chsh finally. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> > How can I change my shell to sh without logining? >> >> You cannot! >> >> But what you can: >> >> - boot in singkle user mode >> - mount all your s=disks: mount -a >> - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor >> >> Bests, >> >> olivier > > > > WRONG! > > DO NOT EDIT /etc/passwd DIRECTLY!!! > vipw, or change your EDITOR environment variable to use something else > other than vi. > > Otherwise correct. > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 06:44:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECBF106564A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:44:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6178FC14 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:44:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.173.15]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:44:00 -0800 Message-ID: <49AE2341.9070303@a1poweruser.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:44:17 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 06:44:00.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[99C27280:01C99C94] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: autoconf262 package error X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:44:20 -0000 When doing a pkg_add for autoconf262 it does not do auto package add for its dependents like other packages do. Some thing is wrong with the autoconf262 package on 7.1. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 07:04:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E73E1065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:04:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D081B8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:04:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2649092bwz.43 for ; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+9Q5ItXwGJLo2z8btURrO8kk9Vq2gyGimDu/mIUzDnw=; b=Uqes1YyJClxxTtM1QBLSNeK7qkANKX7JsipR0h4LrUCMT394jgEMOgGuKkUPOv4hx6 jdAy1tddMD8BxqbDBbgwGyBpzLhmO6jmCuwwjSzmFqXobbeZBmAcczBQSv5OjDeftU/d du2OIohuu0Id8tJAxG/iT52Yw74nYQ65G0W5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=OLvuryFKUrfWC/w3DnLarHQueq2yQfo1lFs/BrWd0ToLl/RgivprE6V3X0GNW0Byq/ 5uop7cdEVjOYzhzg2uFT/AkvHfoaNiuxHJS/rSyodUfFaPkiOBfx8W0+DnNrfgSSVGkv TaKHvM5q9EY1UI+Z1AyjWB6r/T64AU2FukNWc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.109.198 with SMTP id k6mr7823315fap.46.1236150285757; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:04:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> References: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:04:45 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Olivier Nicole Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:04:47 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Hi, > > I have a couple of new Dell PowerEdge 2950 with 16GB RAM and I found > the following issue when trying to install FreeBSD. > > FreeBSD i386 6.4_RELENG > ======================= > > 8 GB RAM: OK except "acpi_alloc_makeop_handler: can't alloc wake > memory" corrected with PR 120515 > > 16GB RAM: panic: "pmap_mapdev: could'n allocate kernel vistual memory" > when loading miibus > > 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads, cannot read the error > message (several pages) > > FreeBSD i386 7.1 > ================ > > Plain distribution, I have not yet upgraded to RELENG. > > It reports for each CPU, on GENERIC and PAE kernel: > > cpu0: on acpi0 > est0: on cpu0 > est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized. > est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 471b471b0600471b > > 8 GB RAM: OK > > 16GB RAM: OK > > 32GB RAM: panic as soon as the kernel loads > > I got the 32GB RAM by combining the memory from both servers. > > I'd prefer using legacy kernel (6.4) but I beleive 7.1 is OK too. > > One of the server will not be installed for a while and I could run > test on it if I am directed what to doo. > > I can repost to a more appropriate list if I am told what list would > be the best. > Hmm, while not adding any value, I thank God you started off this thread. I have two of those I should be installing any time now. However, I am going to use 7.1-STABLE on them. I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your motivation towards thaat angle? I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if anything changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word from the dedicated developers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 08:20:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AA11065678 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:20:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.26.172.34]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44958FC20 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:20:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (66@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id n248KbeE016265 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perryh@pluto.rain.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.13.1/8.12.9/Submit) with UUCP id n248KbxG016264 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from fbsd61 by pluto.rain.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-pluto-M2060407) id AA02710; Wed, 4 Mar 09 00:13:42 PST Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:13:17 -0800 From: perryh@pluto.rain.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <49ae381d.MijmLnhnQSqk66ur%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <200903030819.15001.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> In-Reply-To: <200903030819.15001.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> User-Agent: nail 11.25 7/29/05 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:20:38 -0000 > If the machines have floppies, there are downloadable floppy > images. Is anyone aware of a simple method to construct a bootable zip-drive image from the floppy images and/or bootonly.iso? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 08:52:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736851065674 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:52:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from aristotle.thought.org (ns1.thought.org [209.180.213.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A228FC13 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:52:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by aristotle.thought.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n248MrTX066568; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:22:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:21:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:21:55 -0800 From: Gary Kline To: Bernt Hansson Message-ID: <20090304082155.GC15637@thought.org> References: <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> <20090303032422.9490d9eb.freebsd@edvax.de> <49AD21B1.6020208@bah.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49AD21B1.6020208@bah.homeip.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 22 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=3.6 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on aristotle.thought.org Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , FBSD UG , Polytropon , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:52:35 -0000 On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:25:21PM +0100, Bernt Hansson wrote: > Polytropon said the following on 2009-03-03 03:24: > >On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:22:50 +0100, Bernt Hansson > >wrote: > >>FBSD UG skrev: > >>>You're not buying the software, you buy a license to use it on one > >>>Apple computer. > > >>Mostly semantics, if I name my computer "APPLE" Then it's "legal" to > >>install. Crap, if I buy it I can install it on ANY computer. Does not > >>have to be a computer named "APPLE" it could be "IBM", "HP" or any other > >>brand or non brand. > > > >I think an important point is that you loose support from Apple > >if you're not installing Mac OS X on Apple brand hardware. > > That may be. But i'm not talking about apple specificly. > > >As for the license agreement, if you buy Mac OS X from the shelf > >(for example), you've not confirmed any contract-like agreement > >with Apple yet, but you've purchased some rights already, for > >example the right to burn the whole package (not a nice example > >but I'm sure you get the idea); the EULA mentions nothing about > >this (legally possible) behavior. > > Well, you have the right to make a backup. Is it that? > > >The Mac OS X versions sold along with the "Hackintosh" are no > >illegally pirated copies, they're "boxes" from the shelf. It's > >up to the customer what to do with it. > > Yes. Like with any digital file/s If this were only true! ...But as I understand it, corporations like the RIAA forbid me from making a backup of a CD or DVD that I *own*. (E.g, a 6-CD set of Shostokovich). Admittedly, it's getting OT to ask if it wasn't corporate greed that's causing the Global meltdown, but we come back to the point if we ask two straightforward questions: 1. What is ethical? 2. How much is too much? gary > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 2.23a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 09:46:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BDF106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3A38FC30 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n249k4a4067076; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n249k4NN067073; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:04 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: lacalling In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:46:15 -0000 > login. > > I can only login in with single user mode which freebsd proovide, but few > tools are provided. > > How can I change my shell to sh without logining? > run chsh on single user > I have a debian cd which can bring me to its shell,but when i mount /dev/hda > ,it says no such device. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 09:46:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616E11065673 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944218FC20 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n249jfiE067069; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:45:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n249jdJo067066; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:45:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:45:39 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "\"Remorque\"" In-Reply-To: <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:46:31 -0000 > > I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your motivation > towards thaat angle? > > I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if anything > changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word > from the dedicated developers. > > > -- why not simply use /amd64? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 09:46:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0CB106567A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAACC8FC27 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:46:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n249kVKE067083; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n249kVpU067080; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:31 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Olivier Nicole In-Reply-To: <200903040449.n244nLMc052523@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> Message-ID: References: <200903040449.n244nLMc052523@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, lacalling@gmail.com Subject: Re: I cannot login coz bash is deinstalled X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:46:52 -0000 > > - boot in singkle user mode > - mount all your s=disks: mount -a > - edit /etc/passwd with your favourite editor it won't work. databases must be rebuild, you have to use chsh or vipw From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 09:53:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38C2106566C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 879508FC0C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:53:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so163505fgb.35 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:53:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=T0r83luA+TtmTb9QDDYla4LS1i/3QGBhPBlNfLhemUs=; b=NGQP0a4Uyhv1W0sZJMNXlJgGqVtMXWX5GSr0cpX8+dNE6arC5t/2riWqAMjJd2yb1X qnBFr85YhQES15oPeKzBzrR3Ipak6HJQH8OUVgpfnO9Pi/VXIlXIf9cQIz122VEK4Qnv 00rImfRb6NvmARpEuDyHbgMSg7hrFpMssovyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GSiZ1StTG9ad1i3157fPO9MVuqsLyEZrWmJqLJNU/GMhBpUjWNu5adusMKt65XKV6J 1/GI4Y+nNn0+yg+rfvpmrpzMHODJfG+oWU+5Xf3CpnaEtUBCKaEj0QIWhJoTBUR8IC9z wHfsd9Ud6Uh/O3tPYSVz/9Y/ERs0GxERKFKLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.74.15 with SMTP id w15mr2213647fga.60.1236160416653; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:53:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:53:36 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0903040153l7844c353k81769342c424f62@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: tool to determine server stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:53:38 -0000 Hello, I am not sure if it was upgrade to perl 5.8.9 which started my problem, but anyway I am spotting a strange server behaviour. It will usually last about 5 minutes during which the system becomes unresponsive. Top tells me there are two perl processes run by user www both of which use 100% of a CPU%. The server has four CPUs so that's ok. What is strange, though is that during such a storm the outgoing bandwidth is all taken up and this is the reason server becomes unresponsive. Normally, it does happen that the bandwidth is taken almost completely by remote backup job but I have priority queueing with pf and it has never been a problem. A site will be served fast even though the bandwidth is taken up, because httpd traffic has higher priority. Also, in this particular case, backup job is not involved (especially that the perl processes are run by user www) so it must be something else. I have looked through apache's logs but I cannot seem to find anything strange (normal traffic without any type of DoS activity, etc.). I have turned on debugging in HotSanic which I use for traffic/system measurement but it would not generate outgoing traffic. I guess I am looking for advice how to debug this. I often spot the problem when it is about to end so I do not have enough time to start some a more detailed monitoring (also I am not sure which tool would be best to use). I'd appreciate any advice on how to troubleshoot and find out the source of the problem. Today, I have managed to run netstat during the outage (the ssh session was on so I was able to continue, otherwise I wouldn't get to the server). I can provide its output if it is of any use. I have never had anything like this before so I am in the dark here. I use FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p9 #3. Many thanks in advance! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 10:36:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980C6106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy3.bredband.net (proxy3.bredband.net [195.54.101.73]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A62E8FC1B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:36:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport.bredband.com (195.54.101.120) by proxy3.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49A54040002AEE6A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:36:35 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmtQAOjnrUlV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBTosUhwCBHAEBAQE1wU2ECAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,299,1233529200"; d="scan'208";a="493138756" Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport1.bredband.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 11:36:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n24AaXIf087123 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:36:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49AE59B1.4030406@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:36:33 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ADC1CA.5090703@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031719j60679b72r23e3f8fa41a9e86e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903031719j60679b72r23e3f8fa41a9e86e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:36:37 -0000 APseudoUtopia wrote: >> In my case I only see either "local" there or my smart host as defined >> in /var/mail/{hostname}.mc >> Can you provide a "diff -u" between /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and >> /etc/mail/{hostname}.mc ? >> >> /Morgan > > I'd switch over to postfix, but I'm only using this to send output > from cron and the daily security run scripts. I don't receive any mail > over the network, so I think it'd be pointless to go through the > effort of switching and configuring another MTA. > > Here's the diff. I figured it was too long to include in the email > (word wrap will make it hard to read :-P) > http://pastebin.ca/1352338 > I'm no expert on Sendmail but you are aware that "dnl" is Sendmail's way of commenting out a line, aren't you? In your config you have disabled pretty much every configuration file in /etc/mail, especially /etc/mail/access which defines who can relay mail through the local MTA. I'm pretty sure this isn't a good idea. Apart from this I couldn't see any major differences between your config and FreeBSD's default. Why not try to use the default config and make sure to populate /etc/mail/access with at least "127.0.0.1 RELAY" and try again? /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 10:38:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EABF106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:38:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089CD8FC25 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:38:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from odhiambo@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so2759455fxm.43 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:38:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=kdPIBDhXjXrurAI2iYtE4nr4edli24xgU4zfC8Chne8=; b=GC7AYG66VZyrJT4DNCt9k6r4GYI2lY5qxDS4DDwSG2alHldxWOGCGw67W9JTHoxSVy fUcUTHiKdGnIQn12B1LRP/LZkkVPmPJKMh4pHyO0EtAimAtVh+LmEaiQPe5o6LOQFnbJ zKs5VbVQ3QhuUuTnCMFy/BMcAggJGvPiK5Kqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=vK6nRoggOynLQHxekB+pC00vHQsL6cFkJJE1xo1htHtDHBR3pytWRm5zaFhuAMzUXi IiXJlhIqqle8HnMQDXPGsr9pib5acBIcRPlSmxIyClqHLBBsKCwGNkvpLe72X8fXh2WC SYVyPUDwvD0gFlu2y8+RgtIqDFoGHtHG/Fyd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.1 with SMTP id a1mr5442047fas.52.1236163104199; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:38:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:38:24 +0300 Message-ID: <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> From: "\"Remorque\"" To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:38:26 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar < wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > >> I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your >> motivation >> towards thaat angle? >> >> I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if >> anything >> changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word >> from the dedicated developers. >> >> >> -- >> > why not simply use /amd64? You mean he changes the CPU? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a baby." - Natalie Wood From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 11:17:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30154106566C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:17:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from angel.comcen.com.au (angel.comcen.com.au [203.23.236.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBB58FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:17:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rock_on_the_web@comcen.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.192] (unknown [202.172.126.254]) by angel.comcen.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A485C2F21C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:18:30 +1100 (EST) From: Da Rock To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1235619755.47624.18.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <1235619755.47624.18.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:17:02 +1000 Message-Id: <1236165423.6517.21.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ldap cn=config/slapd.d querying X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:17:05 -0000 On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 13:42 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > This may be a stupid question, but I haven't been able to alight on the > answer to this. > > I'm investigating using dynamic configuration (cn=config or slapd.d > system- whichever term you like) for an ldap service, but as far as I > could see there is no way to change the setting on the fly through the > ldap itself: is this correct? > > Is it dynamic in that you can adjust the config manually correcting the > ldif files in the slapd.d directory knowing that the ldap server will > pick up the changes immediately? Or is there a way that an ldap client > (ldapmodify, luma, diradm, whatever) can access the config and change it > that way? > > Thanks in advance for humouring my dementia... :) Ok, so it did turn out to be a stupid question: the config is in a separate database, what is the real stopper to changing the config through ldap tools is the suffix. This limits the access to only the database not the config. So the answer to this is that the config MUST be changed via the ldif files in the directory (on the fly, that is). An interesting observation though: ldap can use SASL (gssapi = kerberos) to auth user access, and kerberos can use ldap as a backend... chicken and egg- slapd needs to auth with kerberos on startup as a service and kerberos could need to access ldap to reach the keys :) (if setup to use the ldap to store them of course) So what happens in a case like that? Does ldap startup enough to allow kerberos to access the backend? Or does slapd keep retrying to auth until it can? Or do we end up in an endless loop? :) I could probably keep coming up with more (my research into both these has turned up some interesting information)... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 11:22:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7D11065673 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:22:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537598FC16 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:22:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2732393bwz.43 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:22:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9LuJtdvWyiZjXTdSWRj2RGLW1nEGn+4ixdw0rW7A5ow=; b=UoUL8uytFhyqLKOEU33F9r/Kbp6PbK2VcRQRB9rqP3kHggAzmZIWCRNf1SePveUu+I Z+z0Nosc5brVxj9ywCjM2XgQYHgLmf6Mc1qveOzfykUf81SHyEYN7F0n5NpgUD1I/L/n YCOUK012BJs8zwHdo7Sa/kgmrfmlQtS2I9KZc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BAS5btkZ8k5m+9d8AUagPkvG6Mi3Ckhjan4/CuQwut28GX9JEnrxAq8q9ZDEPU21e2 qKDGrPy9EVUxGGCQ9AieocU027RDHHBy4PXvcOdaJCzYvhD6zZKQnV9P+NpkMs9G+Ed6 78cC+Rnw9ldEC7ocnfwnb74CR3MDKBDGCG/5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr3207503fgb.17.1236165763860; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:22:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0903040153l7844c353k81769342c424f62@mail.gmail.com> References: <94136a2c0903040153l7844c353k81769342c424f62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:22:43 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0903040322s75077f3ajd83bc9bf22c3f1dd@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: tool to determine server stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:22:46 -0000 Hi there, > I am not sure if it was upgrade to perl 5.8.9 which started my > problem, but anyway I am spotting a strange server behaviour. It will I am continuing my searches for the problem and just have been able to find out this: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND www 44888 100.0 0.2 5976 3644 ?? R 11:46AM 2:35.18 /usr/sbin/httpd (perl5.8.9) root 14 96.3 0.0 0 8 ?? RL Fri08AM 7161:12.89 [idle: cpu0] www 44887 96.3 0.2 5976 3644 ?? R 11:46AM 2:34.58 /usr/sbin/httpd (perl5.8.9) The process dies as soon as it ends. But this is strange: $ l /usr/sbin/httpd ls: /usr/sbin/httpd: No such file or directory So it looks like these two processes made the machine unresponsive and generated a lot of outgoing traffic. However, the file does not exist. Any hint as to how to debug it further? I am determined to find the culprit. Thanks! -- Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 12:05:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A1F10656C7 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.170]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CDD8FC19 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:05:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from apseudoutopia@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3378066wfd.7 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:05:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZLTrWrupXFVt+/JuKqAtHzif+jRx5L9xGFOCMIB7AhY=; b=qfLMLCEqWu/tiZHcpZyLV1iyDCBlUVgQ5yxuc9Sxu59WtMKitiwtqR5xXLSTnCNBar M5TQnKxMpn71BIcT0T8yOW5JTfUEcBL31jVJenya9fbmrjkDoNgBCvTJJ1pEGVeHjy90 zefQwmRXHU5qHyAbSXb/sAm/RcKnMDVKb4M8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=IQtd9R75DWaqDTXPF/q34KwD8BaDfOpReOaBzvZcQGaSNFrdGxU/FL9OXM5t2xg/Jw 7pIqr9J3rp5GmAUQxqYAid87KKjHuxREDE2v0x0HkyA1EQevEisLkhDS/fBmjYlCnTBB BrnVGGLOolU9IqQg3cg/wd3/ynT+tR0c8xVTc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.234.16 with SMTP id g16mr4174561wfh.107.1236168326761; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 04:05:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49AE59B1.4030406@pp.dyndns.biz> References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ADC1CA.5090703@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031719j60679b72r23e3f8fa41a9e86e@mail.gmail.com> <49AE59B1.4030406@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:05:26 -0500 Message-ID: <27ade5280903040405m74a9eb75y7869d0e2163d16fa@mail.gmail.com> From: APseudoUtopia To: =?UTF-8?Q?Morgan_Wesstr=C3=B6m?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:05:39 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Morgan Wesstr=C3=B6m wrote: > APseudoUtopia wrote: >>> In my case I only see either "local" there or my smart host as defined >>> in /var/mail/{hostname}.mc >>> Can you provide a "diff -u" between /etc/mail/freebsd.mc and >>> /etc/mail/{hostname}.mc ? >>> >>> /Morgan >> >> I'd switch over to postfix, but I'm only using this to send output >> from cron and the daily security run scripts. I don't receive any mail >> over the network, so I think it'd be pointless to go through the >> effort of switching and configuring another MTA. >> >> Here's the diff. I figured it was too long to include in the email >> (word wrap will make it hard to read :-P) >> http://pastebin.ca/1352338 >> > > > I'm no expert on Sendmail but you are aware that "dnl" is Sendmail's way > of commenting out a line, aren't you? In your config you have disabled > pretty much every configuration file in /etc/mail, especially > /etc/mail/access which defines who can relay mail through the local MTA. > I'm pretty sure this isn't a good idea. Apart from this I couldn't see > any major differences between your config and FreeBSD's default. Why not > try to use the default config and make sure to populate /etc/mail/access > with at least "127.0.0.1 RELAY" and try again? > /Morgan Yeah, I am aware what "dnl" does. The reason I commented that stuff out is because I have no use for any of it - all those files (access, local-host-names, mailertable, virtusertable, etc) are all empty by default and I had no reason to add anything to them. I'll try going back to the default config and putting the RELAY line in the access file. Thanks once again for the help. I really do appreciate the time. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 12:41:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AE91065673 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:41:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D958FC1E for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 07:41:49 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id KRT74695; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 07:41:49 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18862.30476.351969.153598@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:41:48 -0500 To: Zbigniew Szalbot In-Reply-To: <94136a2c0903040322s75077f3ajd83bc9bf22c3f1dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <94136a2c0903040153l7844c353k81769342c424f62@mail.gmail.com> <94136a2c0903040322s75077f3ajd83bc9bf22c3f1dd@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: User Questions Subject: Re: tool to determine server stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:41:51 -0000 Zbigniew Szalbot writes: > The process dies as soon as it ends. But this is strange: > > $ l /usr/sbin/httpd > ls: /usr/sbin/httpd: No such file or directory On my system: huff@> whereis httpd httpd: /usr/local/sbin/httpd /usr/local/man/man8/httpd.8.gz Someone's looking in the wrong place. (Unless you've twiddled /all/ the settings.) Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 12:31:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9441065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:31:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88EA78FC0A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id n24BY1dY055969; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B7756427; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.86]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA50756420; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.212.18]) by tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n24BXuW3064365; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:33:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 281DBD025C; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Df63sD+q1iJN; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [193.48.255.208] (vanparys.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.208]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00132D0096; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:34:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49AE672D.3080905@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:34:05 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Micha=EBl_Gr=FCnewald?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081125) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Kline References: <20090227114529.GC91411@orion.ulstu.ru> <1235738361.6496.4.camel@lenzix.cwb.casa> <87DB90C7-3537-41A4-ABBF-C7682F0EE5F0@rgbaz.eu> <49A94AF0.7080603@bah.homeip.net> <49A965D1.7080309@bah.homeip.net> <78FFD3B7-837D-4AC4-8550-7719C3BF738C@rgbaz.eu> <49AC320A.5070203@bah.homeip.net> <20090303032422.9490d9eb.freebsd@edvax.de> <49AD21B1.6020208@bah.homeip.net> <20090304082155.GC15637@thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20090304082155.GC15637@thought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:55:14 +0000 Cc: Sean Cavanaugh , FBSD UG , Polytropon , freebsd-questions , Bernt Hansson Subject: Re: Ports on Macbook X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:31:15 -0000 Gary Kline a écrit : > If this were only true! ...But as I understand it, corporations like > the RIAA forbid me from making a backup of a CD or DVD that I *own*. > (E.g, a 6-CD set of Shostokovich). While this thread is off-list and is probably annoying many people here, I cannot refrain to point out that this kind of discussion is void unless it is studied in a given legal system. For example in France, a court may decide that a given clause in a EULA is void because it is unfairly restrictive, or because the customer was not properly informed, oe because it contradicts current usage, or whatever. Companies and particulars can write everything they want, this does not make a law. BTW I would like to point out that the question of validity of EULA is the same than the problem of validity of other software licences such as BSD or GPL: any of them will only be given a definitive answer in the front of a court. -- Cheers, Michaël From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 13:14:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F07D106564A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAED18FC1D for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:14:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3402358wfd.7 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:14:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=lCk86sNtPI6fr7Yp7FU7zrlnyENtlqKK9GvjbqbaWFg=; b=tNk7DaPLjIqSEwjm7baTwqNuYs0Z6WSE5z3HanzaFtekOcsYVOOX04/bH07GtqlaDj 3fZEHOzjIQIx+fiaxoBlHgDoqGiyKe9XJnHNjjOBVOoTbwuBasJMCwwrSEQMFdkrlYkn G+g1bhLonmtzowIgzbu9ZNdWszYpNpir5bavk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=bn8R1urfnVYB28MmRf4VYScOEa06GXqp01krMmxDQ7UK+1YSpwuBL+j9VZx4IVxvSN QJNtsLYTiMRWmrxm70E+yd2yPATHnYLOP6MFluIr/YbHKXaq/cUoLXfV/7+SbQd50wh1 WA7jv4dFik1hYD3a1VhiV7HorUp/e/oHOYrpA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.13.17 with SMTP id q17mr4192265wfi.222.1236172465943; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:14:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:14:25 +0800 Message-ID: From: lacalling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001636e0a7feb6b44504644ad418 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: libX11 configure failed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:14:27 -0000 --001636e0a7feb6b44504644ad418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to install KDE4 on a freebsd which has few pkg installed. 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(wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8308FC21 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n24DZgDi067396; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:35:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n24DZf1X067393; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:35:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:35:41 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "\"Remorque\"" In-Reply-To: <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:36:08 -0000 > anything > changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic word > from the dedicated developers. > > > -- > > why not simply use /amd64? > > > You mean he changes the CPU? > it's that CPU 64-bit capable? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 13:46:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D85106566C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@www.evolva.ro) Received: from www.evolva.ro (www.evolva.ro [86.55.0.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134AC8FC12 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:46:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from www@www.evolva.ro) Received: by www.evolva.ro (Postfix, from userid 80) id BD492C66057; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:31:27 +0200 (EET) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: Evolva Telecom MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090304133127.BD492C66057@www.evolva.ro> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:31:27 +0200 (EET) Cc: Subject: Mentenance work for mirrors.evolva.ro 04.03.2008 16 - 19 PM GMT+2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:46:30 -0000 Hello, Today mirrors.evolva.ro will be down 2-3 hours for mentenance work. The actual server will be replaced with a new one, more powerfull. We thank you for understanding. Have a great day. -- Daniel TOMUTA Junior System Administrator Evolva Telecom t: +4-021-9394 t: +4-021-200.93.94 t: +4-073-112.38.85 t: +4-074-616.06.05 f: +4-021-200.94.01 e: daniel.tomuta@evolva.ro GPG: http://www.evolva.ro/g/dt.gpg ---- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 13:43:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6321065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james.knoll@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0910.google.com (an-out-0910.google.com [209.85.132.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386088FC1D for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from james.knoll@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id d17so3182373and.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:43:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.68 with SMTP id o4mr279316ibo.12.1236172789403; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 05:19:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0022152d62f1fe548804644ae7d8@google.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:19:49 +0000 From: james.knoll@gmail.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:01:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: console display freezes at boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:43:37 -0000 I have a problem with my pc booting up. About 70% of the time, the console display freezes at the boot menu. The system still boots and I can ssh into the box and it will still serve web pages. I assume it is a problem with my hardware. I have tried an ubuntu live cd and it behaves similarly. Does anyone have any ideas? My problem now is I changed my sshd port to port 80 (please don't make fun of me) , but I forgot to shutdown lighttpd and so now I cannot ssh into the box. I appreciate any help you can give me. Jim From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 14:04:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32A6106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A58C8FC1A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:04:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1792443yxl.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:04:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=udBCEWw5Qld4ku2GmELjOHIxrP4UcqGmUkd56xMpgn8=; b=Y7QMFJF5vA3LGjUNnXXF2MjF4VhgooSJaNNGonBN/l+fTzdi3EkvjtGoyjPlWhJPBL CmlboY6WcYhAcSFVEr73XOEOVTiV2gh98ek9xk/Ct3v4Dxc4FAq3pbIA7SygxOE6YqGN v1x9xiVE9ZweQoQq349Ui3TpV16MI5KgBvFRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GDfkWQgFIAi2w8k6m8Gs+9RVNhfbUjrx9JtX8BMyf9/G+PYqworgYsEZZy1q0ZPTaH ph8VFnME6VghnG78n1hqEgVn/e+fnGnZ/1qpTjYOlgtcYGhlMH3BWcdGyUhu2SGcX1Um g15QEcCvEWqp0rXejoFvseOTrTQ7yfMeeg6K0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.72.139 with SMTP id m11mr2729438vcj.32.1236175441745; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:04:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20090228173013.02810f18@mail.computinginnovations.com> References: <49A95AF8.2060608@gmail.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20090228173013.02810f18@mail.computinginnovations.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:04:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Derek Ragona Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Andrei Brezan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd problem with DNS and IP change. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:04:03 -0000 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Derek Ragona < derek@computinginnovations.com> wrote: > At 09:40 AM 2/28/2009, Andrei Brezan wrote: > >> Hello list, >> >> I have a strange problem and I don't know what to relate it to. My >> ISP >> changed my IP from (eg) 10.1.1.1 to 15.1.1.1. I have changed my zone >> files to reflect that change. >> >> "dig -t mx domain.com" results in mail.domain.com 3600 IN A 15.1.1.1 >> (the new ip). However when i try: >> >> "ping mail.domain.com" it tries to get to 10.1.1.1 the old ip and gets >> time to live exceeded fro an ip along the route. When i try to ping >> domain.com it gets all ok as it pings the new ip. I've also tried dig >> @(forwarders in named.conf) and they to got the correct mx dns entry for >> domain.com. >> In rc.conf i have hostname="mail.domain.com" (eg), i haven't >> changed >> it, i'm thinking it's something related to hostid or hostuid but i don't >> know where to search for this topic. >> If anyone has a clue what to try or where to look upon this >> behavior >> please shed some light. >> >> Thank you. >> >> > Check /etc/hosts which is used before DNS. > > -Derek > Depends on your nsswitch.conf(5) setup. If dns is specified before files, DNS will be checked before /etc/hosts will be. It's all configurable and it's important to know the difference From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 14:55:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2FE5106566C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B758FC1A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:55:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lacalling@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3442263wfd.7 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:55:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1xzYGSMy6AvaagqDprShZ0k4jty7ktBrvLyn12SEe/4=; b=TfFR/S/36hTduVB01t7Fk4sUiRTPu2R1kC2bD5l/S6N9buQXm9Z5ti0/IMOnDDsY/l qHUUDHVe9S5a8mFAdKnw3TvCjv0ZbgUB4nw7XAhlxchtZMXPDGIplqWUuiPWZMXlOac5 1qPPZ2nsIHfjaBRmuO/YiiVlFnb+MsSkC6LiQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fTBt3pXRDKfWPFdprKk/kkO7M/YHwc2fLPUFUxoMwIFg5nihVn8XKBR11Gqw3KeleT t7xQHj1FETOa8RWTfVx95ZV3Sro5uW0sJM4o2Oog21VS0ITuHy+pus30g1Mt1Ttr4Y94 L4pcNBZj9lqMPstoeiGbqvaeeeDSDMFB2Kbps= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.186.15 with SMTP id j15mr4225179wff.271.1236178513294; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 06:55:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:55:13 +0800 Message-ID: From: lacalling To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: libX11 configure failed. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:55:14 -0000 libX11 configuration suggest that xcb doesnt meet require. I try to make xcb , but it requires to build libX11. Then I pkg_add -r xcb and portupgrade -a it failed again when configuring for libX11,which suggests again " Package requirements (xextproto xtrans xcb >= 1.1.92) were not met". how can i upgrade libX11 then? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:14 PM, lacalling wrote: > I tried to install KDE4 on a freebsd which has few pkg installed. > > But configration aborted in libX11 > > that's the config.log in /usr/ports/libX11/.. > and the output of make. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 15:08:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE03E106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A518FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:08:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from marge.bs.l (e180035035.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.35.35]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML21M-1LeshY1Ruv-0000uz; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:08:04 +0100 Received: from bsch by marge.bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LeshX-00080l-TF for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:08:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:08:03 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/rgCl0A5AmNciDHHadl0suT68D+lvjFi8CbmX XmERWnuTiD58n4btA17P2ZtjUul0wFVRqK4VhjmvZ3kziI2Hzs /o79Dz6aiL9FqZO0znSQhZPDBmRsnEuFFby0muKiV8= Subject: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:08:06 -0000 Hi, from "man sh": Invocation [...] When first starting, the shell inspects argument 0, and if it begins with a dash (`-'), the shell is also consid- ered a login shell. This is normally done automatically by the system when the user first logs in. A login shell first reads commands from the files /etc/profile and then .profile in a user's home directory, if they exist. [...] I use Slim (X login manager) which calls exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc I first wondered why none of my commands in "/etc/profile" and "~/.profile" got executed. Finally, I modified "/usr/src/bin/sh/main.c" to trace what files are read, recompiled the "sh" command and: the only file that is executed is "~/.shrc". I just cannot believe that FreeBSD has such a severe bug. What is going wrong here? Thanks in advance, Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 15:38:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868C61065670 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:38:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from proxy1.bredband.net (proxy1.bredband.net [195.54.101.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38F538FC08 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Received: from ironport2.bredband.com (195.54.101.122) by proxy1.bredband.net (7.3.139) id 49A3D1A300401249 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:38:38 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AudLALAurklV4jp1PGdsb2JhbACBTosVhneBHgEBAQE1wnyECAY Received: from c-753ae255.107-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz) ([85.226.58.117]) by ironport2.bredband.com with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 16:38:38 +0100 Received: from [192.168.69.67] (phobos [192.168.69.67]) by gatekeeper.pp.dyndns.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n24FcaON092270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:38:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@pp.dyndns.biz) Message-ID: <49AEA07C.7000904@pp.dyndns.biz> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:38:36 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TW9yZ2FuIFdlc3N0csO2bQ==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090127) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <27ade5280903011124v4d6d9fdq2071d5ab44a37ca9@mail.gmail.com> <49ADA685.9060702@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031444i3df88842ub6087e1e3855b4c1@mail.gmail.com> <200903031409.43484.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ADC1CA.5090703@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903031719j60679b72r23e3f8fa41a9e86e@mail.gmail.com> <49AE59B1.4030406@pp.dyndns.biz> <27ade5280903040405m74a9eb75y7869d0e2163d16fa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <27ade5280903040405m74a9eb75y7869d0e2163d16fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cron Not Sending Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:38:40 -0000 > Yeah, I am aware what "dnl" does. The reason I commented that stuff > out is because I have no use for any of it - all those files (access, > local-host-names, mailertable, virtusertable, etc) are all empty by > default and I had no reason to add anything to them. I'll try going > back to the default config and putting the RELAY line in the access > file. > > Thanks once again for the help. I really do appreciate the time. Sendmail is not an open relay by default so you need at least one RELAY entry in /etc/mail/access for it to forward mail externally. I'm still curious of where it picks up that www@localhost but chances are it will disappear as soon as you have a valid access config. /Morgan From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 16:44:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA25106566C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amie@advice2all.com) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321EC8FC30 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:44:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amie@advice2all.com) Received: from Amie (24-148-14-170.prk-bsr1.chi-prk.il.cable.rcn.com [24.148.14.170]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1Leu133Xjr-000Tiv; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:32:19 -0500 From: "Amie" To: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: 4 MAR 09 10:32:11 -0600 X-Mailer: NetMail Message-Id: <200903041032.23w9r9A@advice2all.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/nvXlrmUhZm8aXOaukR0FRCX5TbZmLruSY1po PWED6pC+bs003O8UfOkO3DCGFtrDmQZ693e9/qHyFTfMIG5K7D y5t8K7b8kiX75BVZStkTtbuJ/FRjVIa Cc: Subject: Simple Sites Make Me 137.00 Daily! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: amie@advice2all.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:44:51 -0000 You Are About To See How A Simple Little Three Page Website Makes Me Over $137 In PROFIT Each And Every Day... And It Only Took Me 45 Minutes To Build!" Yes... Unlike The 'Other Guys' I Am Actually Gonna Let You See It! My Simple Sites Have Generated Over $2,298,443 In Revenue Over The Past 4 Years. Not To Mention My Students Who Generated Over $1,000,000 Last Year Alone! Copy the URL into your browser for a free video http://www.advice.ne1.net/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 17:38:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF82C1065673 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:38:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D736F8FC1A for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:38:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n24HRb60067765 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:27:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n24HRb1Y067762 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:27:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:27:37 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200903041032.23w9r9A@advice2all.com> Message-ID: References: <200903041032.23w9r9A@advice2all.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Subject: Re: Simple Sites Make Me 137.00 Daily! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:38:50 -0000 > You Are About To See How A Simple Little Three Page Website Makes Me Over $137 In PROFIT Each And Every Day... And It Only Took Me 45 Minutes To Build!" > Yes... Unlike The 'Other Guys' I Am Actually Gonna Let You See It! > My Simple Sites Have Generated Over $2,298,443 In Revenue Over The Past 4 Years. > Not To Mention My Students Who Generated Over $1,000,000 Last Year Alone! > Copy the URL into your browser for a free video http://www.advice.ne1.net/ > unbelievable how many people still believe money comes from heavens. couldn't the mailsystem be changed to allow posting from addresses only from registered users? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 17:54:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98BBA106570B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5007A8FC24 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:54:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id n24HoqGa071221; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:50:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id n24HoqYK071220; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:50:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:50:52 -0500 From: Jerry McAllister To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090304175052.GA71179@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <200903041032.23w9r9A@advice2all.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple Sites Make Me 137.00 Daily! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:54:13 -0000 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 06:27:37PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >You Are About To See How A Simple Little Three Page Website Makes Me Over > >$137 In PROFIT Each And Every Day... And It Only Took Me 45 Minutes To > >Build!" > >Yes... Unlike The 'Other Guys' I Am Actually Gonna Let You See It! > >My Simple Sites Have Generated Over $2,298,443 In Revenue Over The Past 4 > >Years. > >Not To Mention My Students Who Generated Over $1,000,000 Last Year Alone! > >Copy the URL into your browser for a free video http://www.advice.ne1.net/ > > > unbelievable how many people still believe money comes from heavens. > > couldn't the mailsystem be changed to allow posting from addresses only > from registered users? That discussion has been had numerous times before. I think that in general the conclusion is always that since the questions list provides a primary point of support for FreeBSD users, and that many have reasons that they cannot subscribe or that it would be a problem for them to subscribe, that the annoyance from these trash messages is less than the benefit of leaving the list open. It is not hard to hit 'd' for delete or click on that box if you use a gui email reader. I suspect that the choice won't change now either. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 18:29:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E287D1065678 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout017.mac.com (asmtpout017.mac.com [17.148.16.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C018FC1B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:29:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sneepre@mac.com) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from cenarius.apple.com ([17.228.13.75]) by asmtp017.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KFZ00HGVVCYIF60@asmtp017.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:29:23 -0800 (PST) Message-id: <7CA8D1F9-5756-4113-B83F-6FF09B05D712@mac.com> From: Andrew Moran To: Mel In-reply-to: <200903031131.22493.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:29:21 -0800 References: <8806A36E-A839-481A-8E59-9F79DEB6B51A@me.com> <9B2E2AAB-0866-4D91-9A4A-4E2D81A342E6@mac.com> <649E6643-413F-41B4-AEFA-D94CFC809D00@me.com> <200903031131.22493.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:29:53 -0000 On Mar 3, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Mel wrote: > On Tuesday 03 March 2009 07:26:02 Andrew Moran wrote: >>> >>> >> >> Ok sadly that didn't seem to do much: >> >> celebrian# cat /boot/loader.conf >> kern.maxdsiz="8G" >> kern.defdsiz="4G" >> celebrian# > > Can you show limits -H -d? > [root@celebrian ~]# limits -H -d Resource limits (current): datasize 8388608 kB [root@celebrian ~]# >> I rebooted, but still see my memory being chewed up. Almost >> immediately after booting, one of my spamassassin processes spun out >> of control. Here's the top with it eating 16 gigs of memory: >> >> PID UID THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU >> COMMAND >> 1611 1030 1 68 0 15062M 818M CPU2 2 0:44 20.65% >> perl5.8.9 > > At this point, have your cd to a partition large enough to hold a > few 100 > megs, and type: > ktrace -p 1611 > > where 1611 is the PID of the perl process. You may want to be a bit > earlier > then this point. After a few seconds, type ktrace -C. Then kdump| > less. There > should be plenty of allocations there (*alloc* functions). I'll try to do this if I can catch it in the act. I've mitigated the problem by turning off swap completely, which means my system doesn't get bogged down but then it's less obvious when it's happening. I do seem to be seeing a lot of other processes dying as well: pid 53393 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space pid 53415 (sendmail), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space pid 53401 (imap-login), uid 143, was killed: out of swap space pid 53400 (imap-login), uid 143, was killed: out of swap space pid 53399 (imap-login), uid 143, was killed: out of swap space pid 53417 (procmail), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space pid 47702 (sendmail), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space pid 53418 (perl5.8.9), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space pid 53416 (procmail), uid 1030, was killed: out of swap space pid 971 (dovecot), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) This morning i had to restart many of my services. The mystery continues. --Andy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 19:34:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F6C1065673 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: from outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-158.bluehost.com [67.222.39.38]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AA108FC14 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:34:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from list1@gjunka.com) Received: (qmail 11538 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2009 19:05:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host79.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.79) by outboundproxy5.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2009 19:05:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=gjunka.com; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Identified-User; b=noti6mLPQNEn7ZWFtEyV6jOQQ3QbDYC1GRUVijMeIIIpnk9zA7UdDQT9VE8OMuogplTCZMLcuRt+inx8Zj/8Fuveb7wVLqdZsiGYVcXhHZjQMofgS0iAmZdQqScqkHcu; Received: from host-84-9-59-118.dslgb.com ([84.9.59.118] helo=[192.168.1.66]) by host79.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LewRu-00075j-1d; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:08:10 -0700 Message-ID: <49AED1A2.5020906@gjunka.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:08:18 +0000 From: Grzegorz Junka User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <200903041032.23w9r9A@advice2all.com> <20090304175052.GA71179@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <20090304175052.GA71179@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {630:host79.hostmonster.com:gjunkaco:gjunka.com} {sentby:smtp auth 84.9.59.118 authed with list1+gjunka.com} Cc: Wojciech Puchar , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simple Sites Make Me 137.00 Daily! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:34:51 -0000 Jerry McAllister wrote: > On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 06:27:37PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > >>> You Are About To See How A Simple Little Three Page Website Makes Me Over >>> $137 In PROFIT Each And Every Day... And It Only Took Me 45 Minutes To >>> Build!" >>> Yes... Unlike The 'Other Guys' I Am Actually Gonna Let You See It! >>> My Simple Sites Have Generated Over $2,298,443 In Revenue Over The Past 4 >>> Years. >>> Not To Mention My Students Who Generated Over $1,000,000 Last Year Alone! >>> Copy the URL into your browser for a free video http://www.advice.ne1.net/ >>> >>> >> unbelievable how many people still believe money comes from heavens. >> >> couldn't the mailsystem be changed to allow posting from addresses only >> from registered users? >> > > That discussion has been had numerous times before. > I think that in general the conclusion is always that since the > questions list provides a primary point of support for FreeBSD users, > and that many have reasons that they cannot subscribe or that it > would be a problem for them to subscribe, that the annoyance from > these trash messages is less than the benefit of leaving the list open. > It is not hard to hit 'd' for delete or click on that box if you > use a gui email reader. > > I suspect that the choice won't change now either. > > ////jerry > > > I can't send emails to the address which I used to sign up to the list, and from which I am receiving emails from the list. The mailing list server simply rejects these emails. I don't know if this is a configuration problem, but I am glad that as long as such problems occur I can post messages using a different address. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 20:49:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B602106566B for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:49:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D898FC17 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:49:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 31so1909212yxl.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:49:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Lap642M6PE06TTPHRj69QnKjKmT6ediTrsdesQfaVoY=; b=Z3oCV/Fh/+C8pM6d0Dyqb07YKD8+PRSkrM707p7YtyYSWbq+2Vig+k5SP2EtiZzPcy YoXfBlJKcm4ytweu1a4MrnPlqGUSOK7DFg1lXad3DnL2UqNT4vfvRHlS8/lNlNU+CzkY k7OA8gDfktjSV12Ep44hkKA+a6qCVqJAMjF5w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=q9arpcI0oxKvM7kDRMdVtUrMG3+XV6GRV4UBEiOp1hGCszH/bkjExt+o9oTe4GPRFn xY5QitaiVVAJEgbVnlIvGEbgbMoQraDPZAO3XrA1P90OtfFJ3/jHwzdFgMCFU4KDLWCM nhdzBvFO0AmBjdl51L5fZoWVF10UOw0jEh0g0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.75.19 with SMTP id w19mr149821vcj.110.1236199773972; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:49:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> References: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:49:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Remorque Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:49:35 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Remorque wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar < > wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > > > > >> I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your > >> motivation > >> towards thaat angle? > >> > >> I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if > >> anything > >> changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic > word > >> from the dedicated developers. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > why not simply use /amd64? > > > You mean he changes the CPU? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a > baby." > - Natalie Wood > All CPUs generally shipped from Dell anymore are 64bit capable. Do you have the original specs (take the service tag, go to dell support -> warranty -> original system config) and paste that. It gives chip IDs that we can use online to see if it's amd64 capable. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 20:49:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4991610656C4 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED55F8FC24 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so2839837ele.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:49:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NpDwY8HtRC7p0ACksU/IywMGBTG+4iquvpSCOoaBXY4=; b=ue+ZnZ3jQhXOxDaPueNdhNuVdv1Wamp2dWDxdJB9GUNwtsYNN6U4Y/muT/KHwE7hIw vjQ0C9e6hLro0ExV9yKCZFThMdZwVS2vQzJFpV+sRNFHiqb+OJxsaxCWiU66+JbLgnkt 5mV5pyc0axaLhT9nTxzRenMtQL3y19RaqfV6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=VHtPKvV3l49rlq02hljALFtSLjPMn+ykA9ZlpgAZzpTvD+Q3qyq5NiTp6WK1WfhqWZ pVyEPZIHLzHRJ4ax2Lr9/CB8MfLmlQ06f1AY0DmMYIefATzqN5yMhZwK+ckxYOEaLWQO Y+CKniNMImYRHzl5SyAlvxg2Kce0Ge+Z1mojA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.134 with SMTP id o6mr94664iba.53.1236199795974; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:49:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> References: <200903040326.n243QHY1041181@banyan.cs.ait.ac.th> <991123400903032304p7409c4ecvb76a6c6946b82920@mail.gmail.com> <991123400903040238r5c196b80jb5e6799b56974703@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:49:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Remorque Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Olivier Nicole , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAE kernel problem on Dell PowerEdge 2950 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:49:57 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Remorque wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wojciech Puchar < > wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote: > > > > >> I see no reason why you should run 6.4 at all though. What's your > >> motivation > >> towards thaat angle? > >> > >> I suggest you install the 7.1 and update it to -STABLE then see if > >> anything > >> changes as regards the CPU (est message), while we wait for the magic > word > >> from the dedicated developers. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > > why not simply use /amd64? > > > You mean he changes the CPU? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Odhiambo WASHINGTON, > Nairobi,KE > +254733744121/+254722743223 > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > "The only time a woman really succeeds in changing a man is when he is a > baby." > - Natalie Wood > All CPUs generally shipped from Dell anymore are 64bit capable. Do you have the original specs (take the service tag, go to dell support -> warranty -> original system config) and paste that. It gives chip IDs that we can use online to see if it's amd64 capable. Good luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 21:08:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BA4106567C for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EB58FC26 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:08:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so2021003ana.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:08:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PqQSs2Vjq/8qPqA568I0IhB4kBCtKSRfRJcl/QfWf5o=; b=KSQgSAB/j16vgZZp3K2Ij8YBeeImSFaJbVXGhV5+YyX07KsG5AR+l2vYP09C17KOYg Q8th0XW2T8L4OY+fgFTtZQDYX+E2fw+uCsyo7pIvNuV3kSPe5G9KyWXhmDLKSxGva4wG UCaeNPLR8oeAUgHBY+yqomtjYmuHYsT+YLyy0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=AdPeXTWD270QQ73HYuGK5hsLyUj55TMQ7W66Gw/D9k2czaGhZCDLZ1ivZUUqpe6rr8 +a+zeQ0aeibkdEg3KO8a08yxrclYY1MsXkvqzR8lAjzguEa5OFvPh5bP0vJDKy0D33HF 15kIi+3qaEc/PoeOBDDW6BhAQdbJC5Hj1n1eU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.12.138 with SMTP id x10mr114441ibx.16.1236200901422; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:08:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49ae381d.MijmLnhnQSqk66ur%perryh@pluto.rain.com> References: <22292723.post@talk.nabble.com> <200903030819.15001.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <49ae381d.MijmLnhnQSqk66ur%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:08:21 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bsd.rd for FreeBSD install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:08:23 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 1:13 AM, wrote: > > If the machines have floppies, there are downloadable floppy > > images. > > Is anyone aware of a simple method to construct a bootable > zip-drive image from the floppy images and/or bootonly.iso? problem is to create the zip disk bootable. Never tried this, would be COMPLETELY BIOS dependant, and I know of no sure-fire way to make it work. But the process would be the same. Install a bootloader on the zip disk, either install a bsd system, or copy the bootonly directories and files to the zip disk... then the zip would act as a bootonly cd... I've been shipped, by Iomega, a 750MB zip drive in wrong exchange by Iomega of a 2TB USB drive. I'm a little torqued. --TJ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 4 22:19:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41841065689 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from ns1.jnielsen.net (ns1.jnielsen.net [69.55.238.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B90F28FC14 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:19:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [192.168.213.128] (jn@stealth.jnielsen.net [74.218.226.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns1.jnielsen.net (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id n24MJmVF056144; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:19:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) From: John Nielsen To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Paul Schmehl Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:19:47 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903041719.48213.lists@jnielsen.net> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.88.4, clamav-milter version 0.88.4 on ns1.jnielsen.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: Subject: Re: Anyone know SunFire hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:19:51 -0000 On Monday 02 March 2009 01:57:21 pm Paul Schmehl wrote: > We have FreeBSD installed on a SunFire box running two AMD Opteron > processors. I was upgrading to 7.1 STABLE on Friday, and after > installing the kernel I rebooted. Now the box is completely unusable. > Does anyone know how to get a SunFire box to boot from the CD ROM? Any > changes I make to the BIOS seem to be completely ignored. When I get > to the FreeBSD boot loader, I lose keyboard, so I can't even go to > single user mode. Not being able to boot off the CD is a royal pita. > > I've done some Googling, and the most common answer seems to be "hit > STOP+A", but there is no STOP key on an Intel keyboard. Is there a > magic incantation that will work? Maybe the entrails of a young goat? I've been working on an X2100 recently. Unfortunately it is running Linux but I was able to boot from both a FreeBSD CD (in an external USB CD drive) and a USB stick without issue. Keyboard was USB as well. F2 should take you to the BIOS setup screen, make sure you save your changes before exiting.. pretty standard AWARD-type BIOS. There's one screen where you can set the boot order between cdrom, hard drive, etc. and another submenu where you can set the hard drive boot priority. HTH, JN From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 00:06:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D8F1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:06:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E2A8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:06:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2993491bwz.43 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:06:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from :content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :user-agent; bh=HKaDfC2Na0OGFk4wuQEQjPGecHbghhQScM37I5DPB9Q=; b=CWfZeb3fo5XSp5mCzNqJjsO2PY8uT095kuJRjvbsrx0d2pUkUPG+WCXAMq0wuRh6+V NwrfCHbML5S5RyNpwlN/wKF6BlcxwCWOsov5p0sY9YRkJzuhkpXxReKSn7J8bIQCkZxl yWGeUaVn3nVAxPxMAV+7gU6a11iKYKg5hMUu0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:user-agent; b=P+NUOsHJEJ1HbQnr3G2NcvdVJHpRhfFZuMDHcTFUz2PTWWm3X+oYZU5HPl/ZBlGnYx CZ4DnXUeKtUD7gSsk6c7+s+I1x6CBGXfDEjEQqRgXyQjpeE1SwP9/nqpgQZeuYdVlF4J TGPkdnyeA6M1D352LNoytXm2vHlf9qjiNjYvc= Received: by 10.223.107.76 with SMTP id a12mr437534fap.23.1236211610693; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.14.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm847772mue.46.2009.03.04.16.06.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:06:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:01:55 +0200 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) Subject: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:06:52 -0000 Hell-o, Ever wondered about the "yes" command? Well, I have. If one does "yes" into a terminal one get's an infinit output of "y" on a new line each time. What's the deal here? I saw the same thing on linux, but you only had to type "y" (those cheap blokes :P) So... what's going on ? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 00:09:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD88106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E358FC24 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:09:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2993987bwz.43 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:09:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PUlQ1Bz6PtugfRQNjZyfedZTA5nEC1LP4u/c63O0LYE=; b=ILEMo3HZwQ9p/fPqR4waYHgxGQzC4jqD1Q4Rg1ibyV7OfZlRVVhuOtm6V+zZ/jDiK2 ciG6mwPYK8w+8D8b48N+klumS1/pjIEf+BCeXpx+kgrh+S+4HU1VUgg9YPjDZ7frI3OJ GDe4XaIcLCyDZ8KgmW7aTGrg1bYoTussEdfRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VcRJrRRORp9j17oXrDa3AW96QGGVvwLO1UMTRJF2Z8/CxRaDHg+CAui0k62mv3PZ6V scOTbkfjuI61HiPPFAFnuI4p8/arNF2sky42YMjZVjbOCvBTTwmpML139VKtwWT7i1TZ pUOP1cLWlE9qjUJJLp/voq29LhY82bliT8LEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.10 with SMTP id a10mr440322fas.17.1236211780178; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:09:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:09:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28e2@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:09:42 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > Hell-o, > > Ever wondered about the "yes" command? Well, I have. If one does "yes" into > a terminal one get's an infinit output of "y" on a new line each time. > What's the deal here? > > I saw the same thing on linux, but you only had to type "y" (those cheap > blokes :P) > > So... what's going on ? man yes -- Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 00:11:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC0110657C6 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:11:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8928FC18 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:11:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so2994410bwz.43 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:11:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=zbw4UWmWvNFodAWO8t2oEmOJs9i/i4SkWjsxo4xwnu4=; b=jgIAaPgHsXB4ybtJc6I3Wjxmg6T2bL3xEiMKYCIFzX1PUsHbQEa8Qs9pubJITJ0afP DLx/0EXE/eW6Q+iYttKTSLytz797qXwez78L41a0QwbAfwct/Mhl6bfRMtJrLBeYCTD/ PhU0pMnAKEwbHFgmU6xQxPwG1CJhBwngYI+Ac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=LRWIcu6w56IQ/BYC1hXezvJc5MeG4iqvRIA4urGcvPqxHV6UQvR5TOBeyo0jVRLcqI J5K1r2dZsQk36qlxAjs209bbrJ65mBaq6JdQEhdM+mWsntEXRFatncxoxfo/CLo69ad4 9qQ7NzelWz/dF2NBLneRzwIo/VJoBRQKjeCsk= Received: by 10.103.246.1 with SMTP id y1mr216971mur.116.1236211913864; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:11:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.14.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm708358mue.33.2009.03.04.16.11.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:11:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:06:58 +0200 To: "Glen Barber" From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28e2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28e2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:11:56 -0000 Well , I noticed that, but it's a bit odd now isn't it. I mean, what's the sense of having some darn letter printer out forever ? I found it kind of silly If you ask me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 00:15:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3776E106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:15:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3468FC1A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so3669314wfd.7 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:15:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+LTrwkaEQdF3J0D4Z7be1ZE40dhR2uMOmF74kfNU9cg=; b=F9sEMn9JBKB+s+hTNfRXO4Zfowb4LuQWOn9fTwVwKf7KRPJIMRuhtOhg6/kczHZqK6 CE/ARcgxUtxVOR4In0/yqzxAX7veEjVe/6LO6kRkiNGtZQV77joX+XJItukFZsY3qeQ/ FVx8/lgGp+Viro1aDZPunDcWVa4rZCOfdQJxI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nx2GsKjErmyBZLLWdrnhLjjxcmpLgin6mVyPNBSv5v7p0ooW25WqpY8Bh9VZsY3Jzi huaJ2APubOarLTxJM29IfKrGh7mS04+0bZPg3UpUM8kImnYlp4zid0tvfwOBv3QIXLJO PoLPgKvU451UCFS+Al3osuW+pqimGCy3eg5vc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.241.10 with SMTP id o10mr217796wfh.23.1236212135491; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:15:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:15:35 -0800 Message-ID: From: Kurt Buff To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:15:36 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 16:06, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > Well , I noticed that, but it's a bit odd now isn't it. I mean, what's the > sense of having some darn letter printer out forever ? I found it kind of > silly If you ask me. But, incredibly useful if you actually write shell scripts - many programs want a 'y' for input from the stdin, and this will do that for you. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 00:17:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8751065678 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com (dorsai-02.celestial.com [192.136.111.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8734F8FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:17:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bill@mi.celestial.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AC352072B09 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at celestial.com Received: from dorsai-02.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (dorsai-02.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DkfTcBZhvs3V for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com (hayek.celestial.com [192.136.111.12]) by dorsai-02.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED422072250 for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F60F68BBC5CA; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mi.celestial.com Received: from ayn.mi.celestial.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ayn.mi.celestial.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QJjZC1DdlOSY; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by ayn.mi.celestial.com (Postfix, from userid 203) id 61DA868BBC565; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:17:47 -0800 From: Bill Campbell To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305001747.GA13774@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 OpenPKG/% (2009-01-05) Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd@celestial.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:17:49 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > Hell-o, > > Ever wondered about the "yes" command? Well, I have. If one does "yes" > into a terminal one get's an infinit output of "y" on a new line each > time. What's the deal here? The ``yes'' command is designed to automate interactive scripts that expect a repetitive string typed manually (e.g. something like fsck but without the ``-y'' option). One would use something like: yes | somecommand It takes a single string argument so if you had a program that always expected the string ``greblefarf'' one could use: yes greblefarf | yourcommand > I saw the same thing on linux, but you only had to type "y" (those cheap > blokes :P) I don't know what you're talking about here. To the best of my knowledge, the yes command works the same on every version of *nix I have used which goes as far back as Radio Shack Xenix in 1982 (the last real OS that Microsoft was responsible for :-). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@celestial.com Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820 Fax: (206) 232-9186 The pinnacle of open systems is: when moving from vendor to vendor, the design flaws stay the same. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 00:30:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747F91065675 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F411A8FC1C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:30:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id f40so1514289fka.11 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:30:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:date :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=3r/NqLCJi9Yq91RrQDcybQcCSzp9ZPLQUSnN9OxdOWs=; b=RhtqAnbDAsz9MGfHfrCmCtjKaYNLqDuPenAD+oOR5DNdjkF43KT5dXxGqYca2qFRxT Wup5CoNmHMiZ9XIHGFKlDIy4IhSpsqI5vsaSoJP5GMaRzk/AfoZjWyf2OxpGz8kyl6uV Ol0i7sSSCvaR8Y7ikw9IQpE6IXvRAw380DFxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=f5LH+nyL1/Pm27oXAH+o20TJlunbd0X5BljY7tsa9RG7hJB9sp77B2+dtULybmsi8B u7jlZTQab8yW1wpdEAu5apDHUifXKGstaZwOXyVbB/xPFKy7L7RZa/e6dM+eWnhfCpyn Hq0XYYuT4oByjHooTwbK66hGt/DmRkITx+MhY= Received: by 10.103.217.5 with SMTP id u5mr240857muq.42.1236213025022; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:30:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.14.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6sm3560030mug.57.2009.03.04.16.30.24 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:30:24 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd@celestial.com From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090305001747.GA13774@ayn.mi.celestial.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:25:29 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20090305001747.GA13774@ayn.mi.celestial.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:30:26 -0000 thx Bill, got the picture now. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 02:09:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C0431065705 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E718FC18 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:09:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KG00066TGO1SIJ0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:09:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2529V6W002935; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:09:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:09:31 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" To: freebsd general questions Message-id: <49AF345B.7030000@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090228) Subject: OT: saving thunderbird in mbox format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:09:46 -0000 I am looking for someway to "export" my thunderbird mail boxs From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 02:28:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B9B106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119F38FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd4ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.141]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 19:28:51 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=hDhP0nOMAAAA:8 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=mqrJeWew3rJfIzSuVyIA:9 a=f9bhdzXRc3Bh59rZeo8A:7 a=6zxOmHOnwW69VtTYPhuWc0wnAkIA:4 a=1oR-LLLarbgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=RFGhmxrzAL8A:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd4ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 04 Mar 2009 19:28:51 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249201701E for ; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:28:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:28:50 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090304182850.7e77e2cb@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <49AF345B.7030000@gmail.com> References: <49AF345B.7030000@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: OT: saving thunderbird in mbox format X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 02:28:52 -0000 On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:09:31 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman" wrote: > I am looking for someway to "export" my thunderbird mail boxs > if i recall correctly, these are already in mbox format which is readable by other email clients: http://support.detto.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=12 -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 03:42:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F501065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amin.scg@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F1F8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:42:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from amin.scg@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so2096485ana.13 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:42:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=uM5YI3MUlpbNV0UGaLASLlS2ceRpPCxgcadbVO58jg4=; b=m3ZUyFCEh4b8Y6jlFbvvOzsqcMB/paarYwt4TH/nyDVNOrzU8IpaA/Oq6qF3XRWl1u efT8k4nEzMVe/nZgCBqeMWR0gPyZZEZn/3z1fQ6H/7YzePt3TqEfUAieigqeQz1KvN1w a+AwYGIL46XWzZW8jarMTgqaPDGrwclRe282Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=KpS8Lddtef/riIjObIjUVPZFOLzAxH8JMwhbJvCwXE3eTWqSc8CdobgL+Xx0i2xhgH MWcwUAQugZfIvMxdtDVg2BFCWsUmAzddX8l044CH+eJiAYMmXhp5MHNUcUk3bUNhQJWP ECESnQiU2eBWtr3+2OVSoQ3GTugzrnoXcCJfU= Received: by 10.142.156.2 with SMTP id d2mr283563wfe.179.1236222783989; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from AminuddinPC ([219.95.177.171]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm7102032wfd.26.2009.03.04.19.13.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:13:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Aminuddin Abdullah" To: References: <20090304222006.AEB18106567C@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20090304222006.AEB18106567C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:12:46 +0800 Message-ID: <49af433f.16048e0a.1d9f.fffffc09@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmdF3341Mb1EcGfTfmI2FE1NqojcQAJKTYg Content-Language: en-my Subject: FreeBSD 6.4+ PF Binat =>Degraded traffic after few hours hours. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:42:48 -0000 I have 2 servers running FreeBSD 6.4P#1 with standard SMP and each server has multiple IP alias bind to the bge1, Dell R200. # ifconfig -a bge0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 options=1b ether 00:19:b9:fa:0a:9f media: Ethernet autoselect (none) status: no carrier bge1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 options=1b inet x.x.72.23 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.72.255 inet x.x.72.73 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.72.255 inet x.x.72.74 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.72.255 inet x.x.72.75 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.72.255 inet x.x.72.76 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.72.255 inet x.x.72.77 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast x.x.72.255 ether 00:19:b9:fa:0a:a0 media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 pflog0: flags=141 mtu 33208 tun0: flags=8051 mtu 1500 inet 10.10.10.1 --> 255.255.0.0 netmask 0xffffffff Opened by PID 1224 x.x.72.23 is the main IP and the rest are alias. Tun0 is the address created by openvpn. Following is the pf rules. EXT_IF= "bge1" INT_IF= "tun0" # Configured Networks EXT= "x.x.72.0/24" INT= "10.10.0.0/16" DMZ= "10.10.12.0/24" FW= "x.x.72.23" # DMZ Servers IP Addresses user1="10.10.12.2" user2="10.10.12.6" user3="10.10.12.10" user4="10.10.12.14" user5="10.10.12.18" #External IP Pool Mapping WEB_EXT1= "x.x.72.73" WEB_EXT2= "x.x.72.74" WEB_EXT3= "x.x.72.75" WEB_EXT4= "x.x.72.76" WEB_EXT5= "x.x.72.77" ######################################################### # NAT: Bi-directional NAT (one-to-one mapping) binat on $EXT_IF inet from $user1 to any -> $WEB_EXT1 binat on $INT_IF inet from $user1 to any -> $WEB_EXT1 binat on $EXT_IF inet from $user2 to any -> $WEB_EXT2 binat on $INT_IF inet from $user2 to any -> $WEB_EXT2 binat on $EXT_IF inet from $user3 to any -> $WEB_EXT3 binat on $INT_IF inet from $user3 to any -> $WEB_EXT3 binat on $EXT_IF inet from $user4 to any -> $WEB_EXT4 binat on $INT_IF inet from $user4 to any -> $WEB_EXT4 binat on $EXT_IF inet from $user5 to any -> $WEB_EXT5 binat on $INT_IF inet from $user5 to any -> $WEB_EXT5 rdr pass on $EXT_IF proto {tcp, udp} from any to $WEB_EXT1 port 1024:65000 -> $user1 rdr pass on $EXT_IF proto {tcp, udp} from any to $WEB_EXT2 port 1024:65000 -> $user2 rdr pass on $EXT_IF proto {tcp, udp} from any to $WEB_EXT3 port 1024:65000 -> $user3 rdr pass on $EXT_IF proto {tcp, udp} from any to $WEB_EXT4 port 1024:65000 -> $user4 rdr pass on $EXT_IF proto {tcp, udp} from any to $WEB_EXT5 port 1024:65000 -> $user5 pass all pass out on $EXT_IF proto {tcp,udp,icmp} from any to any keep state ------------------------------- It's a very simple pf.rules with no block rules. Main purpose to map vpn user to dedicated public IP. It was working great the last few months but lately it has been giving a terrible performance after a few hours of running the servers. SSH is not accessible, traffic and routing is very slow. Is the anything wrong with above configuration or 6.4 kernel with regards to PF and OpenVPN? The servers are not having any custom setting sysctl.conf or loader.conf or rc.conf except the enabling openvpn, firewall and sshd. Restarting sshd will provide remote access again or rebooting the server. Is there any known memory leaked for pf in this configuration? Is there a better and efficient way of doing this in PF or is it better to use ipfw? When this happen (no ssh), all ping to the alias IPs resulted in timeout. Only the main IP will respond. Server RAM is 1GB and during this issue, top shows ---------------top------------ last pid: 4163; load averages: 0.36, 0.29, 0.21 up 0+21:10:26 11:11:58 21 processes: 1 running, 20 sleeping CPU: 2.3% user, 0.0% nice, 6.0% system, 3.9% interrupt, 87.8% idle Mem: 15M Active, 233M Inact, 241M Wired, 76K Cache, 111M Buf, 503M Free Swap: 1951M Total, 1951M Free -------------------------- Anyone? TIA. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 04:15:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05284106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864EA8FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:15:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Lf4zH-0005qj-1a for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:15:11 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n254FALj013855 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:15:10 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 50DC6FCA4DB; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:15:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 04:15:05 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305041505.GA35138@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:15:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:15:16 -0000 On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:08:03PM +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > Hi, > > from "man sh": > > Invocation > [...] When first starting, the shell inspects > argument 0, and if it begins with a dash (`-'), the shell is also consid- > ered a login shell. This is normally done automatically by the system > when the user first logs in. A login shell first reads commands from the > files /etc/profile and then .profile in a user's home directory, if they > exist. [...] > > I use Slim (X login manager) which calls > > exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc Usually ~/.xinitrc is parsed by the X server when it starts (startx is just a Bourne shell script) and you exec the last command (the window manager) in your ~/.xinitrc I've never before seen the syntax you've used and I think it comes from a misunderstanding of the manpage for sh and/or it's a bashism or a typo. E.g: /bin/sh -c somecommand (login shell - arg 0 starts with a dash) /bin/sh somecommand (not a login shell) > > I first wondered why none of my commands in "/etc/profile" and > "~/.profile" got executed. Finally, I modified > "/usr/src/bin/sh/main.c" to trace what files are read, recompiled > the "sh" command and: the only file that is executed is "~/.shrc". > > I just cannot believe that FreeBSD has such a severe bug. What is > going wrong here? > > Thanks in advance, > > Bertram > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 06:36:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBE9106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2763B8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:36:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n256ZsHZ071275; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:35:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n256ZrKa071272; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:35:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:35:53 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:36:03 -0000 if you have program that do too much questions like (are you sure), and you are sure then you do yes|program On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin wrote: > Hell-o, > > Ever wondered about the "yes" command? Well, I have. If one does "yes" into a > terminal one get's an infinit output of "y" on a new line each time. What's > the deal here? > > I saw the same thing on linux, but you only had to type "y" (those cheap > blokes :P) > > So... what's going on ? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 07:19:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED98B1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (gate6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679DC8FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:19:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk (localhost [IPv6:::1]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n257JEBn030520; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:19:22 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk n257JEBn030520 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=200708; t=1236237562; bh=WFcMxEEOcQZKjz1+MQ24Q5u5ZOwm5PfM6o9NhIk5MC8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Type:Date:From:In-Reply-To: Message-ID:Mime-Version:References:To; z=Message-ID:=20<49AF7CEB.90901@infracaninophile.co.uk>|Date:=20Thu ,=2005=20Mar=202009=2007:19:07=20+0000|From:=20Matthew=20Seaman=20 |Organization:=20Infracaninophile |User-Agent:=20Thunderbird=202.0.0.19=20(X11/20090218)|MIME-Versio n:=201.0|To:=20Kurt=20Buff=20|CC:=20"Vasadi=2 0I.=20Claudiu=20Florin"=20,=20=0D=0A=20" freebsd-questions@freebsd.org"=20|S ubject:=20Re:=20the=20"yes"=20comand|References:=20=09<4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28 e2@mail.gmail.com>=09=20|In-Reply-To :=20| X-Enigmail-Version:=200.95.6|Content-Type:=20multipart/signed=3B=2 0micalg=3Dpgp-sha256=3B=0D=0A=20protocol=3D"application/pgp-signat ure"=3B=0D=0A=20boundary=3D"------------enig47C097CCBBFC87EBE82407 30"; b=CVYdpfOgUAg0eNnxlx3FH842Vaab0NkpcLvjoKts45kx+l7mKyIPMpn1ZDM+wNZtG 0dlKHjCaILJQ/p+/1P3yvMVCjt0eimT/jT9VxdJpa83QVrScKHBPwDIc67AUEjGonB XKQ+nH0gpfZeoex4cbknBbH1yZaea6GLdeil+djk= X-Authentication-Warning: happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk: Host localhost [IPv6:::1] claimed to be happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Message-ID: <49AF7CEB.90901@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:19:07 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090218) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kurt Buff References: <4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28e2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig47C097CCBBFC87EBE8240730" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:19:22 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9070/Thu Mar 5 04:32:34 2009 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VERIFIED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:19:28 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig47C097CCBBFC87EBE8240730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kurt Buff wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 16:06, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin > wrote: >> Well , I noticed that, but it's a bit odd now isn't it. I mean, what's= the >> sense of having some darn letter printer out forever ? I found it kind= of >> silly If you ask me. >=20 > But, incredibly useful if you actually write shell scripts - many > programs want a 'y' for input from the stdin, and this will do that > for you. Here's an example. When upgrading FreeBSD, especially over a large delta= in version numbers, you will frequently need to delete old files etc. tha= t are no longer part of the base system. You are provided with a mechanism= to do that, viz: # cd /usr/src # make check-old=20 {prints out all old files, directories and libraries to be deleted}= # make delete-old {prompts you to delete anything apart from shlibs which it won't to= uch} However 'make delete-old' will ask you whether you want to delete each and every individual file, which is tedious. If you decide from your inspection of the 'make check-old' output that you don't want any of the old files, you can just run: # yes | make delete-old Job done. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig47C097CCBBFC87EBE8240730 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEAREIAAYFAkmvfPEACgkQ8Mjk52CukIykMACfQ0Nd7DS4msSJafPXuDsrp3P1 RnYAn1A1ZsAk4SkpITsqbAM/FlO+3z+4 =p0IG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig47C097CCBBFC87EBE8240730-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 07:29:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B736F106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D198FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:29:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zszalbot@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so3124572fxm.43 for ; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:29:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=p26VA8YsH8i3nOGBMg6dLBGSHvE82i9XtmFNvBFHTNc=; b=Me2QQctcXUqN2UkboO1pPBA0R+23W88HVr8nzDsD+Kubpm13yZ/2hcBq75qrp+kypy V48XwlE+CdFKkEGqt68IkFCDVobJLB/T8vvGWX2iKAuRbQuJNL2yoS1Q3cLe0VrENA4T Ato1EMwWbAyXl3YZbbUuGa3L1MUUVPkhVEgXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XDQbdxmLZ74KD1fc6BYKV+K38itC22fM4wejEw7OgjGsyPkHmS9i92cyTjGFd5o5M3 B1Qjo0mVXEAt0ZuFmhWUzxSRrHWqUsZqAb+e2R20409Zy72mNnNUn+8fMjNofvF9QBWr YL8SFGlotHLGJeoPbHGQshD6skmv+b3l797Gw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.98.18 with SMTP id v18mr709988fgb.46.1236238151345; Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:29:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <18862.30476.351969.153598@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <94136a2c0903040153l7844c353k81769342c424f62@mail.gmail.com> <94136a2c0903040322s75077f3ajd83bc9bf22c3f1dd@mail.gmail.com> <18862.30476.351969.153598@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: <94136a2c0903042329o16bf07f4y8b31fa6550dd4f68@mail.gmail.com> From: Zbigniew Szalbot To: User Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: tool to determine server stability issues X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:29:13 -0000 Hello, On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 13:41, Robert Huff wrote: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0On my system: > > huff@> whereis httpd > httpd: /usr/local/sbin/httpd /usr/local/man/man8/httpd.8.gz > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Someone's looking in the wrong place. =A0(Unless you've tw= iddled > /all/ the settings.) Thank you Robert and some information for the rest. It turns out these two prcoesses looking for /usr/sbin/httpd were zombies so to say (and they were the cause of my problems). Someone used a php script vulnarability and placed a script in /tmp. Apart from looking for security holes in php scripts, I am going to monitor /tmp. I am embarrased to say I haven't done that so far. I am writing it to warn people like myself. All the best, --=20 Zbigniew Szalbot www.slowo.pl www.fairtrade.net.pl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 08:14:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4109106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4728FC24 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:14:14 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n258ECPF002452; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:14:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:14:07 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 08:14:14.0375 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F100770:01C99D6A] Subject: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:14:17 -0000 Hello, I've just bought a new USB key. The label claims "8 GByte" which is the first lying; it shows up as only ~7.5 GByte in /var/log/messages, but there seems to be another bigger problem: Mar 5 08:48:32 rebelion root: Unknown USB device: vendor 0x1307 product 0x0165 bus uhub4 Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: umass0: on uhub4 Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: 7712MB (15794176 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 983C) Mar 5 08:48:35 rebelion kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0 is msdosfs/pen disk. # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt Mar 5 08:50:18 rebelion kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label msdosfs/pen disk removed. # df -kh /mnt Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0 7.5G 48K 7.5G 0% /mnt # ls -lh file total 3745826 -r--r--r-- 1 guru wheel 1,7G 16 may 2007 file # time cat file file file > /mnt/big cat: stdout: No space left on device 0.194u 13.064s 8:46.32 2.5% 10+1100k 33429+65536io 0pf+0w # ls -lh /mnt/big -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4,0G 5 mar 09:01 /mnt/big # df -kh /mnt Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0 7.5G 7.5G 0B 100% /mnt How is this possible that ls(1) shows 4G while df(1) 7.5G used? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 08:15:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D681065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5158FC14 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:15:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd5ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.164]) by pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2009 01:15:34 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=0bdGHIs__EcrYttfOZoA:9 a=iYG1h0CSvoASje3TMNYA:7 a=ojUytkL6K-TM-TQPzFkpmEod05gA:4 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd5ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2009 01:15:34 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C0151701E for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:15:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:15:31 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305001531.75f2495b@gom.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: backup files from editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:15:35 -0000 editors can produce backup files - eg emacs adds a ~ to the backup file. the backup file keeps getting changed as you make changes to the original so you i'm wondering what the point of them is. i turn off backups (so my directory doesn't fill up with ~ files), but then i also don't space things properly and occasionally use cryptic names when programming (from what my son tells me), so i figure i should change some of these bad habits. how do people make use of the backup feature when they program? -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 08:28:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7871065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:28:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkarapet@nd.edu) Received: from mx-p1.cc.nd.edu (mx-p1.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49F48FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:28:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkarapet@nd.edu) Received: from pickering.cc.nd.edu (pickering.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.225]) by mx-p1.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.3.0/Switch-3.3.0) with ESMTP id n258Rsi3012838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:27:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-98-228-123-204.hsd1.in.comcast.net [98.228.123.204]) (authenticated bits=0) by pickering.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.2.2/Switch-3.2.2) with ESMTP id n258Skll011508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:28:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:28:46 -0500 From: David Karapetyan To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305082846.GF2705@vagrant.math.nd.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Source-IP: 129.74.250.225 X-ND-MTA-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:27:54 EST Subject: Quirk with latex-suite] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:28:51 -0000 Hello; I am having a funny little problem with latex-suite. When I press , and am prompted with a list of environments to insert, no matter which I choose, it is inserted with a superfluous " that appears right before the cursor. So, for example, \begin{equation} "cursor_is_here \end{equation} Does latex-suite do this by default? What file do I need to edit to change this setting (I'd like to get rid of the quote mark). -- -- Best, David Karapetyan http://davidkarapetyan.com University of Notre Dame Department of Mathematics 255 Hurley Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-4618 Phone: 574-631-5706 Cell: 202-460-5173 Fax: 574-631-6579 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 08:36:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A426106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C23F8FC13 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:36:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n258ZxmN074289; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:35:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n258ZxjK074286; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:35:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:35:58 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:36:07 -0000 > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: umass0: on uhub4 > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: 40.000MB/s transfers > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: 7712MB (15794176 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 983C) > Mar 5 08:48:35 rebelion kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider da0 is msdosfs/pen disk. > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > Mar 5 08:50:18 rebelion kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label msdosfs/pen disk removed. > > # df -kh /mnt > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0 7.5G 48K 7.5G 0% /mnt > > # ls -lh file > total 3745826 > -r--r--r-- 1 guru wheel 1,7G 16 may 2007 file > > # time cat file file file > /mnt/big > cat: stdout: No space left on device > 0.194u 13.064s 8:46.32 2.5% 10+1100k 33429+65536io 0pf+0w > msdosfs bug or strangely made msdos filesystem on that pendrive. if you use it FreeBSD only, clear first 4kB with dd, then do newfs and use as UFS if not - use newfs_msdos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 08:37:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CC6106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:37:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD3E8FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:37:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n258avQI074300; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:36:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n258avhV074297; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:36:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:36:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: David Karapetyan In-Reply-To: <20090305082846.GF2705@vagrant.math.nd.edu> Message-ID: References: <20090305082846.GF2705@vagrant.math.nd.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quirk with latex-suite] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:37:02 -0000 > Hello; I am having a funny little problem with latex-suite. When I press > , and am prompted with a list of environments to insert, no matter > which I choose, it is inserted with a superfluous " that appears right > before the cursor. So, for example, > > \begin{equation} > "cursor_is_here > \end{equation} > > Does latex-suite do this by default? What file do I need to edit to > change this setting (I'd like to get rid of the quote mark). it's really NTG. ask on some TeX support groups. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 09:09:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54937106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:09:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.237]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ADD8FC16 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chuckop@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so4303481rvb.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:09:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; bh=+8QWvUe+JIeqAY/s/uNALZspJSyu3+JCu0dQjc459q0=; b=kbMn6BcqcsqWgbBsjPwCVqwy/6/rlWfbwuJtpQajFFDqFU7WNqaOhD71hG0BovztUN FaluTmRWq9ALi55Hiu1fXi1RW9BM2lbsvhBYwOl2k16yLDz3wqQrgUZ+YLqFXRp9D9pL QoTzMuknYZiVRQXlUpmZ4AXBU+1HVqSHZhEes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :message-id; b=cSSL6bOrTdxy6AEVcCEoJ0ULsR6Bf3auZ8RKZO8u3IsdgggDx1DdrYU4kgVkyGbtHx 0kuAVSsXhzO72zjrqAqofvq/+arkLGPi9vFOjaF2dGkSj1kZVzKfZjBAQ1QTgyWkOymz bxi/NwaDLYxJrHBneZsjpLzEhkc9nYWWQfjnA= Received: by 10.140.140.3 with SMTP id n3mr519673rvd.111.1236244171543; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? (pool-71-112-33-77.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net [71.112.33.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f42sm13654275rvb.3.2009.03.05.01.09.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:09:30 -0800 (PST) From: Charles Oppermann To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:09:27 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:09:32 -0000 > > 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 5 > > 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: Removable > > Direct Access SCSI-2 device Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: > > 40.000MB/s transfers > > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: 7712MB (15794176 512 byte sectors: > > 255H 63S/T 983C) Mar 5 08:48:35 rebelion kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for > > provider da0 is msdosfs/pen disk. > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > msdosfs bug or strangely made msdos filesystem on that pendrive. > if you use it FreeBSD only, clear first 4kB with dd, then do newfs and > use as UFS > if not - use newfs_msdos Wouldn't it be /dev/da0s1? Is it possible that the drive hasn't been formatted properly? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 09:32:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62A681065676 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:32:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09DD8FC18 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:32:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:32:10 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n259W81D004432; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:32:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:32:08 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Charles Oppermann Message-ID: <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 09:32:10.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[425A2BF0:01C99D75] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:32:12 -0000 El día Thursday, March 05, 2009 a las 01:09:27AM -0800, Charles Oppermann escribió: > > > > 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Mar 5 > > > 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: Removable > > > Direct Access SCSI-2 device Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: > > > 40.000MB/s transfers > > > Mar 5 08:48:33 rebelion kernel: da0: 7712MB (15794176 512 byte sectors: > > > 255H 63S/T 983C) Mar 5 08:48:35 rebelion kernel: GEOM_LABEL: Label for > > > provider da0 is msdosfs/pen disk. > > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > > > msdosfs bug or strangely made msdos filesystem on that pendrive. > > if you use it FreeBSD only, clear first 4kB with dd, then do newfs and > > use as UFS > > if not - use newfs_msdos > > Wouldn't it be /dev/da0s1? Is it possible that the drive hasn't been > formatted properly? I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0; maybe I should do # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 ??? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 09:48:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11064106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:48:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A95598FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:48:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n259lwDJ074503; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:47:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n259lvVg074500; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:47:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:47:57 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:48:07 -0000 >> formatted properly? > > I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0; > maybe I should do > > # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 yes. anyway - windoze at least XP no more needs partitions on such devices. > > ??? > > Thx > > matthias > -- > Matthias Apitz > Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH > Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany > t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 > e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 09:48:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DA910656E6 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:48:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03EFA8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:48:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n259mr9A074515; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:48:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n259mqEG074512; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:48:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:48:52 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Matthias Apitz In-Reply-To: <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> Message-ID: References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:49:00 -0000 >> formatted properly? > > I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0; > maybe I should do > > # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > > ??? to be sure do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 before to clean anything from beginning, if any mess is there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 09:52:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202AF106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:52:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from mail-03.name-services.com (mail-03.name-services.com [69.64.155.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2888FC1E for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:52:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd1@a1poweruser.com) Received: from [10.0.10.6] ([202.69.172.108]) by mail-03.name-services.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:52:32 -0800 Message-ID: <49AFA0F4.2050400@a1poweruser.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:52:52 +0800 From: Fbsd1 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 09:52:32.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[1AC8BF90:01C99D78] X-Sender: fbsd1@a1poweruser.com Subject: php5 changes in release 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:52:54 -0000 Having problems installing php5 in 7.1 so tried 8.0 and see that in release 8.0 php5 in defaulting to apache 22 when apache interface is selected from the make config menu. The config menu should give option to select apache 13 or apache 22 not force apache 22 on the user community. Is the maintainer going to change the config menu before php5 8.0 is released for production? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 10:32:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07DCA1065672 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:32:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from col0-omc4-s7.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc4-s7.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD16D8FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:32:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from COL106-W27 ([65.55.34.199]) by col0-omc4-s7.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:20:34 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [218.248.24.18] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:20:34 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 10:20:34.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[05420C90:01C99D7C] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: password protection for RewriteRule X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:32:34 -0000 List=3B I am using apache2.2 =20 I need to do a password protected access to a website eg www.mydoma= in.com I have this Vhost configuration in my httpd-Vhost.conf =20 ServerName mydomain.com RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://127.0.0.1:8081/VirtualHostBase/http/www.mydomain.= com:80/site1/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L=2CP] ErrorLog /var/log/apache/mysite.com/error_log CustomLog /var/log/apache/mysite.com/access.log combined Now anybody in their browse type www.mydomain.com they = can view my site =2C but I want to make them to enter a username & pa= ssword to view the site . How can I do a password protected access to my site for this Rewrit= eRule based Vhost=20 ( I know that I can do .htaccess & .htpasswd based authentication for = directories in apache . ) But for RewriteRule is it possible ? How ? I appreciate very much for your valuable suggestions & hints to how to d= o that . Thanks in advance=20 Dhanesh. _________________________________________________________________ So many new options=2C so little time. Windows Live Messenger. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 10:49:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E49106568A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:49:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064018FC1E for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1LfB8r-0000r3-2f>; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:49:29 +0100 Received: from telesto.geoinf.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.86.198]) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1LfB8r-0003LS-1T>; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:49:29 +0100 Message-ID: <49AFADCE.9050606@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:47:42 +0000 From: "O. Hartmann" Organization: Freie =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Universit=E4t_Berlin?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 130.133.86.198 Subject: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE/amd64: pkg_delete core dumps X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:49:32 -0000 Since several weeks now /usr/sbin/pkg_delete core dumps whenever I try to delete an obsolete package or portupgrade tries to do so. The box is a Quad Core most recent FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE box as built world of today's sources. Regards, Oliver From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 11:44:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FAB1106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:44:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FA58FC1E for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:44:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id n25AG3Qs035743; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA1275641A; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0100 (CET) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABD745642F; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.212.18]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n25AG1Zp072349; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelgrunewald@yahoo.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628C6D2C0C; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TTxqKWl+vvtC; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from ifpoolext1.ujf-grenoble.fr (ifpoolext1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.244]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A81DD0085; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gr=FCnewald_Micha=EBl?= To: prad In-Reply-To: <20090305001531.75f2495b@gom.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:15:40 +0100 References: <20090305001531.75f2495b@gom.home> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: backup files from editor X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:44:41 -0000 Hi prad, Le 5 mars 09 =E0 09:15, prad a =E9crit : > editors can produce backup files - eg emacs adds a ~ to the backup > file. the backup file keeps getting changed as you make changes to the > original so you i'm wondering what the point of them is. Please refer to the Emacs manual (info m Emacs) to learn about the =20 precise rule governing backup files. Just like you, I do not like to =20 have all of these backup files springing off everywhere in my =20 filesystem. Instead of turning backup off, I tell emacs to put them in the `.emacs.d/backup' I created for this purpose: (setq backup-directory-alist '((".*" . "~/.emacs.d/backup"))) You can get a finer control on backup location, read documentation for =20= the bariable `backup-directory-alist' to discover how. Note that this setup tends to produce super long file named in =20 `~/.emacs.d/backup' which may break some fragile systems (e.g. I =20 encountered problems when preparing ISO filesystems not supporting =20 these long names). > i turn off backups (so my directory doesn't fill up with ~ files), but > then i also don't space things properly and occasionally use cryptic > names when programming (from what my son tells me), so i figure i =20 > should change some of these bad habits. > > how do people make use of the backup feature when they program? Note that basic functionalities of RCS systems are well integrated in =20= Emacs (see the Tools menu), and I systematically use SVN (in the =20 ports) as a sophisticated backup system when I edit files that count. Note that the FreeBSD wiki features an intereting comparison of the =20 various RCS systems available, so if you are interested with this =20 approach, you can look for this comparison and make your choice. You can also use RCS without the (moderate) hassle to set up a =20 repository, Emacs has support for an `immediate' RCS system, doubling =20= the files you want to keep track of with a `,v' companion file, =20 containing revision history. (IIRC, this RCS system is the ancestor of =20= CVS, but I cannot find again the name, sorry about this.) --=20 All the best, Micha=EBl From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 12:40:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED221065677 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2648FC1F for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E3D27EBC0A; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:40:05 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:40:04 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Fbsd1 Message-Id: <20090305074004.f2437571.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <49AFA0F4.2050400@a1poweruser.com> References: <49AFA0F4.2050400@a1poweruser.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: php5 changes in release 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:40:08 -0000 In response to Fbsd1 : > Having problems installing php5 in 7.1 so tried 8.0 and see that in > release 8.0 php5 in defaulting to apache 22 when apache interface is > selected from the make config menu. The config menu should give option > to select apache 13 or apache 22 not force apache 22 on the user > community. Is the maintainer going to change the config menu before php5 > 8.0 is released for production? If you want a different version of Apache, all you have to do is install Apache first, then PHP will use the version you have installed. It's always been that way. It's just that up till now the default was 1.3. It's _LOOONG_ past time when the default should have moved to 2.X. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 13:24:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5071065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC77B8FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:24:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@bertram-scharpf.de) Received: from marge.bs.l (e180051013.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.51.13]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKv1o-1LfDYH19Tr-000DBO; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:23:53 +0100 Received: from bsch by marge.bs.l with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDYG-0002J2-QA; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:23:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:23:52 +0100 From: Bertram Scharpf To: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305132352.GA8574@marge.bs.l> Mail-Followup-To: Frank Shute , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> <20090305041505.GA35138@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: <20090305041505.GA35138@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Sender: Bertram Scharpf X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18k6cVXEueOv8uQ0Ubr6csY0/vVfUB+Zd3ic3y KYFIpjNP6UeXPbUB1HZeG106mnwHsDnOfTBiGHYOBDYvaGDDfu lAxq0ju8k7zpNKcr2MBmgjIRqKedGe1 Cc: Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:24:02 -0000 Hi Frank, Am Donnerstag, 05. M=E4r 2009, 04:15:05 +0000 schrieb Frank Shute: > On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:08:03PM +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > from "man sh": > >=20 > > Invocation > > [...] the shell inspects > > argument 0, and if it begins with a dash (`-'), the shell is also = consid- > > ered a login shell. [...] A login shell first reads commands from= the > > files /etc/profile and then .profile in a user's home directory, i= f they > > exist. [...] > >=20 > > I use Slim (X login manager) which calls > >=20 > > exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc >=20 > I've never before seen the syntax you've used and I think it comes > from a misunderstanding of the manpage for sh and/or it's a bashism or > a typo. It's the original FreeBSD port. > E.g: >=20 > /bin/sh -c somecommand (login shell - arg 0 starts with a dash) Sorry, this doesn't call /etc/profile either. $ uname -v FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffa= lo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Bertram --=20 Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 13:53:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3A0106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DED88FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:53:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 78193 invoked by uid 89); 5 Mar 2009 13:54:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 5 Mar 2009 13:54:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Marketcircle-Dmi-Agent: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> From: John Almberg Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:53:45 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Battery powered, SBC that can run BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:53:50 -0000 Hope this isn't too off topic... And I'm not sure of my terminology... I'm looking for a small, single board computer that can run for a week or two on batteries (so very low power drain), topped up by solar cells when the sun is out, and that can run some sort of unix... preferably one of the BSDs. No hard drive, obviously, or any other power draining peripherals. The user interface would be a low powered LCD display plus some buttons. The application is for a custom measuring instrument that would run in a marine environment. I've been Googling for it for the last hour, but can't find what I'm looking for. Any ideas much appreciated. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:04:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9301065674 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7EF8FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:04:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 61F39EBC0A; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:18 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "Ming Tang" Message-Id: <20090305090418.fd23b85f.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <51E3D55451E04BFC97DDD30607FE1B58@Ming> References: <20090301193633.c9ed3807.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <51E3D55451E04BFC97DDD30607FE1B58@Ming> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ClamAV execusion died without error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:04:21 -0000 In response to "Ming Tang" : > I did not find any other error messages in log files. The following lines > appeared in the section for "kernel log messages" in daily email message for > Security Run Output. > > > pid 840 (freshclam), uid 1#: exited on signal 11 This is a "segmentation violation". It means the program is trying to access memory that it never allocated (i.e., it's trying to access memory belonging to another process). This generally happens in 1 of 3 cases: 1) The program is a virus, etc trying to steal data from other programs. 2) The program was written poorly and has memory management bugs. 3) Your hardware (RAM) is buggy and memory bits are flipping by accident causing unpredictable memory access. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_violation > > pid 875 (clamd), uid 1#: exited on signal 10 This is a more unusual error, but still related to memory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_error This error is more difficult to create using software than a segfault. My theory at this point is that you either a) downloaded precompiled packages that are not supported by your hardware. b) built these from ports with funky CFLAGS settings My recommendation would be to start out by deinstalling clam, and rebuilding it from ports, ensuring that your /etc/make.conf settings are all set to defaults. If the problem persists, install a program like memtest86, or use some other RAM tester to ensure that your hardware is solid. HTH -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 13:50:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C7B1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:50:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtang17@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4118FC14 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:50:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtang17@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PRLG1b0070b6N64AARqbLj; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:50:35 +0000 Received: from Ming ([98.212.133.166]) by OMTA03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id PRqZ1b0063baCMu8PRqaUh; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:50:34 +0000 From: "Ming Tang" To: "'Bill Moran'" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:50:29 -0600 Message-ID: <51E3D55451E04BFC97DDD30607FE1B58@Ming> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090301193633.c9ed3807.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Thread-Index: AcmazvKMtanYgNp4RhiL5PqRDPWh0wCyR/Ag X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:06:34 +0000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: ClamAV execusion died without error messages X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:50:40 -0000 I did not find any other error messages in log files. The following = lines appeared in the section for "kernel log messages" in daily email message = for Security Run Output. > pid 840 (freshclam), uid 1#: exited on signal 11 > pid 875 (clamd), uid 1#: exited on signal 10 I am not sure what they mean exactly. Thanks. - Ming =20 -----Original Message----- From: Bill Moran [mailto:wmoran@potentialtech.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:37 PM To: Ming Tang Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ClamAV execusion died without error messages "Ming Tang" wrote: > > Bill, >=20 > Thank you for the response. >=20 > I tried and did not figure out where is the problem. I am attaching=20 > the command line prompts and clamd.log and freshclam.log content here. >=20 > ns1# > ns1# ./clamav-clamd.sh status > clamav_clamd is not running. > ns1# ./clamav-clamd.sh start > Starting clamav_clamd. > LibClamAV Warning: ************************************************** > LibClamAV Warning: *** The virus database is older than 7 days! *** > LibClamAV Warning: *** Please update it as soon as possible. *** > LibClamAV Warning: ************************************************** > ns1# ./clamav-clamd.sh status > clamav_clamd is not running. > ns1# >=20 > ns1# cat clamd.log > +++ Started at Sat Feb 28 10:43:36 2009 > clamd daemon 0.94.1 (OS: freebsd5.4, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) Running as = > user clamav (UID 1#, GID 1#) Log file size limited to 1048576 bytes. > Reading databases from /var/db/clamav > Not loading PUA signatures. > Loaded 455125 signatures. > LOCAL: Removing stale socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock > LOCAL: Unix socket file /var/run/clamav/clamd.sock > LOCAL: Setting connection queue length to 15 > Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600 bytes. > Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes. > Limits: Recursion level limit set to 16. > Limits: Files limit set to 10000. > Archive support enabled. > Algorithmic detection enabled. > Portable Executable support enabled. > ELF support enabled. > Mail files support enabled. > OLE2 support enabled. > PDF support enabled. > HTML support enabled. > Self checking every 1800 seconds. >=20 > ...... >=20 > ns1# > ns1# ./clamav-freshclam.sh status > clamav_freshclam is not running. > ns1# ./clamav-freshclam.sh start > Starting clamav_freshclam. > ns1# ./clamav-freshclam.sh status > clamav_freshclam is not running. > ns1# >=20 > ns1# cat freshclam1.log > -------------------------------------- > freshclam daemon 0.94.1 (OS: freebsd5.4, ARCH: i386, CPU: i386) That's certainly strange. Try starting the processes manually instead of using the rc scripts, and = see if they exit with an error of some sort. Also, I seem to remember = having difficult with permissions under some circumstances, where the processes couldn't write to directories they needed -- check that both clamd and freshclam are running as the same user/group. See if you're getting = core files anywhere (check /var/log/messages for coredump messages). Audit = your config files and make sure nothing is out of sorts. Sorry I can't give you any more specific information, but I've not seen = the problem you're having. --=20 Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:12:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D14C1065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143C08FC14 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:12:18 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n25ECHUH011988; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:12:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:12:17 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Wojciech Puchar Message-ID: <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 14:12:18.0712 (UTC) FILETIME=[64B9B180:01C99D9C] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:12:21 -0000 El día Thursday, March 05, 2009 a las 10:48:52AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar escribió: > >>formatted properly? > > > >I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0; > >maybe I should do > > > ># newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > > > >??? > > to be sure do > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 > > before to clean anything from beginning, if any mess is there. to end this threat, I did: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt # time cat file file file > /mnt/big cat: stdout: File too large 0.276u 19.421s 14:36.63 2.2% 11+1180k 33887+65536io 0pf+0w # df -kh /mnt Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0 7.5G 4.0G 3.5G 53% /mnt i.e. it writes the maximal file size of 4G in FAT32 and 3.5G are left as free; the write speed is 4294963200 in 14:36.63 minutes, i.e. 4902926 per sec; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:12:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C5D1065672 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:12:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from mail.optimis.net (mail.optimis.net [69.104.191.124]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0664A8FC16 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (marvin.optimis.net [192.168.1.3]) by mail.optimis.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n25ECK21002155 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: from marvin.optimis.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n25ECKWg003183 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Received: (from george@localhost) by marvin.optimis.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id n25ECKN2003182 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@optimis.net) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:12:20 -0800 From: George Davidovich To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305141220.GA2423@marvin.optimis.net> References: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: Battery powered, SBC that can run BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:12:21 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:53:45AM -0500, John Almberg wrote: > I'm looking for a small, single board computer that can run for a > week or two on batteries (so very low power drain), topped up by > solar cells when the sun is out, and that can run some sort of > unix... preferably one of the BSDs. No hard drive, obviously, or any > other power draining peripherals. > > The user interface would be a low powered LCD display plus some > buttons. > > The application is for a custom measuring instrument that would run > in a marine environment. soekris.com -- George From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:26:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0263106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:26:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EFF8FC20 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from onemda@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3216384bwz.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:26:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9O4Zs2SsTrNVyCSicktmUdtHN8NzCcNmsv6CplRwol4=; b=Et0J4P+skpy2hfxmnkwSuUYYJ0IxJ1iZ8BQDkWRegUKleT1q9h8OBFDVljPIGpd7X/ Mjdq9dDidistBJTqxDgFbjJN2YdY90QiZ0nSt7I88eJocMdRa0SijnK7XVUAv0YKOwAI vkwe5/h4rpSM/qLMXanMCTVAauEnD4+Ax4lC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JVS0BHdluMt89QP7uYDU81ipGjhjyYU9V9TvKaAFHbu8K5kSrtXsJpBoS5ZOCR/zBT Nw10kq3Kn8TiYdNSuSvPIQhw0QT2LbgJFnC/m75jp9lk7D2G7yHv9cixSQP4psDlXdLe gpWfdT+i2UOG3mSsLDkb/RcMXWd1mucyMabBI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.75 with SMTP id s11mr1025240fao.4.1236263172946; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:26:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:26:12 +0100 Message-ID: <3a142e750903050626p43c6c96ao79cecddef70fed99@mail.gmail.com> From: "Paul B. Mahol" To: Matthias Apitz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:26:15 -0000 On 3/5/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El dia Thursday, March 05, 2009 a las 10:48:52AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar > escribio: > >> >>formatted properly? >> > >> >I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0; >> >maybe I should do >> > >> ># newfs_msdos /dev/da0 >> > >> >??? >> >> to be sure do >> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 >> >> before to clean anything from beginning, if any mess is there. > > to end this threat, I did: > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 > # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > # time cat file file file > /mnt/big > cat: stdout: File too large > 0.276u 19.421s 14:36.63 2.2% 11+1180k 33887+65536io 0pf+0w > > # df -kh /mnt > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0 7.5G 4.0G 3.5G 53% /mnt > > i.e. it writes the maximal file size of 4G in FAT32 and 3.5G are left as > free; > > the write speed is > 4294963200 in 14:36.63 minutes, i.e. 4902926 per sec; should'nt you first try to measure with dd(1) how da0 is big before we start blaming msdosfs: # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/null bs=1m ? -- Paul From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:37:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAAF6106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:37:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from mail.pica.nl (mail.pica.nl [192.87.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5035C8FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:37:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@oclc.org) Received: from rebelion.Sisis.de ([10.0.1.29]) by mail.pica.nl with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:37:05 +0100 Received: (from guru@localhost) by rebelion.Sisis.de (8.14.2/8.13.8/Submit) id n25Eb5at012768; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:37:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from matthias.apitz@oclc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: rebelion.Sisis.de: guru set sender to matthias.apitz@oclc.org using -f Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:37:05 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Paul B. Mahol" Message-ID: <20090305143705.GB12530@rebelion.Sisis.de> References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> <3a142e750903050626p43c6c96ao79cecddef70fed99@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3a142e750903050626p43c6c96ao79cecddef70fed99@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE (i386) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2009 14:37:05.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB356400:01C99D9F] Cc: Wojciech Puchar , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Matthias Apitz List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:37:08 -0000 El día Thursday, March 05, 2009 a las 03:26:12PM +0100, Paul B. Mahol escribió: > On 3/5/09, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > El dia Thursday, March 05, 2009 a las 10:48:52AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar > > escribio: > > > >> >>formatted properly? > >> > > >> >I did a 'ls -l /dev/da*' after key insert and there was only /dev/da0; > >> >maybe I should do > >> > > >> ># newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > >> > > >> >??? > >> > >> to be sure do > >> > >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 > >> > >> before to clean anything from beginning, if any mess is there. > > > > to end this threat, I did: > > > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 > > # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > > # time cat file file file > /mnt/big > > cat: stdout: File too large > > 0.276u 19.421s 14:36.63 2.2% 11+1180k 33887+65536io 0pf+0w > > > > # df -kh /mnt > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/da0 7.5G 4.0G 3.5G 53% /mnt > > > > i.e. it writes the maximal file size of 4G in FAT32 and 3.5G are left as > > free; > > > > the write speed is > > 4294963200 in 14:36.63 minutes, i.e. 4902926 per sec; > > > should'nt you first try to measure with dd(1) how da0 is big > before we start blaming msdosfs: > > # dd if=/dev/da0 of=/dev/null bs=1m ? I've not blamed anybody; please check the full thread; I've reported a problem with a lot of details and got help; the device is around 7.7G but wasn't useable like that as it was formated by the factory; nothing more; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:45:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB74F106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjk32@cam.ac.uk) Received: from ppsw-1.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-1.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.131]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7AE8FC13 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:45:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjk32@cam.ac.uk) X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from nat2.cjkey.org.uk ([88.97.163.221]:47894 helo=[192.168.2.58]) by ppsw-1.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.151]:465) with esmtpsa (PLAIN:cjk32) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) id 1LfEW0-0000Lt-3b (Exim 4.70) for questions@freebsd.org (return-path ); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:25:36 +0000 Message-ID: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:25:35 +0000 From: Christopher Key User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Subject: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:45:58 -0000 Hello, I'm looking to substantially expand the storage on my FreeBSD 6.3 home media server. With regards hardware, the simplest way to attach large numbers of drives seem to be to use SATA port multipliers, but I've been unable to find any consensus on their level of support in FreeBSD. I'm currently looking at a RocketRAID 2314 and SiI3726 based port multipliers. Has any had any experience with this combination? Regards, Christopher Key From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 14:46:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECDD1065677 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: from mx1.identry.com (on.identry.com [66.111.0.194]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B786D8FC20 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:46:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jalmberg@identry.com) Received: (qmail 84197 invoked by uid 89); 5 Mar 2009 14:47:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.110?) (jalmberg@75.127.142.66) by mx1.identry.com with ESMTPA; 5 Mar 2009 14:47:09 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20090305141220.GA2423@marvin.optimis.net> References: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> <20090305141220.GA2423@marvin.optimis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <42E3F74B-1D4A-4016-83F1-CA658279A5FD@identry.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Marketcircle-Dmi-Agent: <42E3F74B-1D4A-4016-83F1-CA658279A5FD@identry.com> From: John Almberg Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:46:42 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: Battery powered, SBC that can run BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:46:45 -0000 On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:12 AM, George Davidovich wrote: > soekris.com Nice. Thanks. -- John From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 15:15:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C19106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:15:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@xroff.net) Received: from xroff.net (xroff.net [200.46.208.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9218FC1B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:15:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emorras@xroff.net) Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643904FE126; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from xroff.net ([200.46.208.231]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03210-09; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:59:27 -0400 (AST) Received: from INV-011.xroff.net (unknown [83.175.204.210]) by xroff.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8DAD84FE0DE; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:59:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:58:47 +0100 To: John Almberg From: Eduardo Morras In-Reply-To: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> References: <6D3F2653-0D19-492F-8989-253413D2641E@identry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20090305145918.8DAD84FE0DE@xroff.net> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Battery powered, SBC that can run BSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:15:45 -0000 At 14:53 05/03/2009, you wrote: >Hope this isn't too off topic... And I'm not sure of my terminology... > >I'm looking for a small, single board computer that can run for a >week or two on batteries (so very low power drain), topped up by >solar cells when the sun is out, and that can run some sort of >unix... preferably one of the BSDs. No hard drive, obviously, or any >other power draining peripherals. > >The user interface would be a low powered LCD display plus some buttons. > >The application is for a custom measuring instrument that would run >in a marine environment. > >I've been Googling for it for the last hour, but can't find what I'm >looking for. Any ideas much appreciated. pcengines.ch I've got an ALIX2d3 working as=20 router for the Internet connection and no problems. HTH >-- John ------------------------------------------------- Useful Acronyms: GPL =3D Greedy Peng=FCin Licence=20 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 15:49:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E415106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:49:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@binary-front.com) Received: from eastrmpop111.cox.net (eastrmpop111.cox.net [68.230.240.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F3F8FC0C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:49:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@binary-front.com) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao104.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090305144910.YFUH3752.eastrmmtao104.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:49:10 -0500 Received: from reaktor.binary-front.com ([68.97.70.90]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id PSp91b0061wrrdg02Sp9kj; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:49:09 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XE5zA2ZHIQIA:10 a=7RoxqCOrGCWgax-QoBEA:9 a=O3fku4vOmgMtW1uekecA:7 a=OvBsZZKY7WNl3XY3xqNJJTHUZHcA:4 a=I2EqgwFF2xUA:10 a=DBdQyVBzhW2hcUTjcg4A:7 a=dakWD0t5Zx6QLguCn9e7oGKqxlYA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:51:19 -0600 Message-ID: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB thumbdrive keeps automatically remounting Thread-Index: AcmdodfQ7VvzuGa9SGiwS6Ed1OnbWg== From: "Mark A. Maupin" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: USB thumbdrive keeps automatically remounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:49:42 -0000 I am running freebsd 7.1, with Gnome. I have gnome_enable=3D"yes" and dbus_enable=3D"yes" in my rc.conf and my = usb key gets auto-mounted when i plug it in. My problem is, when i unmount the drive (either by right clicking the = icon on the desktop, or by umount command) the drive immediately remounts, and the window showing files on the = drive pops up again. The only way i can remove the drive is by killing hald, remove the = drive, and restart hald. This DOES NOT happen with any other usb drives i have used on this = system, including mp3 players. The only difference i can find (other than size) between this usb device = and others I've used, is that this one shows up as /dev/da0(s1) AND /dev/msdosfs/LEXAR, whereas the others only = show up as /dev/da0(s1). All get mounted in /media/ I've been looking into this on and off since December (got it for = Xmas), and have yet to find a solution... Does anyone have any insight as to what could be causing this problem on = this particular device? I've tried reading up on hald to see if i could find anything to help but I'm stumped. I tried = one suggestion on creating/editing an fdi file i had found on a forum, but to no avail.=20 Asking for help is really a last resort for me, this is the first time = that patience, persistence, and a good deal of googling/man page reading = hasn't solve a problem for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 15:49:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6998210656E5 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@binary-front.com) Received: from eastrmpop111.cox.net (eastrmpop111.cox.net [68.230.240.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6338FC13 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@binary-front.com) Received: from eastrmimpo01.cox.net ([68.1.16.119]) by eastrmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090305144847.UFHG11476.eastrmmtao103.cox.net@eastrmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:48:47 -0500 Received: from reaktor.binary-front.com ([68.97.70.90]) by eastrmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id PSon1b00H1wrrdg02SonCv; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:48:47 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=XE5zA2ZHIQIA:10 a=7RoxqCOrGCWgax-QoBEA:9 a=O3fku4vOmgMtW1uekecA:7 a=OvBsZZKY7WNl3XY3xqNJJTHUZHcA:4 a=I2EqgwFF2xUA:10 a=DBdQyVBzhW2hcUTjcg4A:7 a=dakWD0t5Zx6QLguCn9e7oGKqxlYA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:50:57 -0600 Message-ID: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB thumbdrive keeps automatically remounting Thread-Index: Acmdocre6Crfr6MRRVSV8lM2OGhZ0w== From: "Mark A. Maupin" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: USB thumbdrive keeps automatically remounting X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:49:52 -0000 I am running freebsd 7.1, with Gnome. I have gnome_enable=3D"yes" and dbus_enable=3D"yes" in my rc.conf and my = usb key gets auto-mounted when i plug it in. My problem is, when i unmount the drive (either by right clicking the = icon on the desktop, or by umount command) the drive immediately remounts, and the window showing files on the = drive pops up again. The only way i can remove the drive is by killing hald, remove the = drive, and restart hald. This DOES NOT happen with any other usb drives i have used on this = system, including mp3 players. The only difference i can find (other than size) between this usb device = and others I've used, is that this one shows up as /dev/da0(s1) AND /dev/msdosfs/LEXAR, whereas the others only = show up as /dev/da0(s1). All get mounted in /media/ I've been looking into this on and off since December (got it for = Xmas), and have yet to find a solution... Does anyone have any insight as to what could be causing this problem on = this particular device? I've tried reading up on hald to see if i could find anything to help but I'm stumped. I tried = one suggestion on creating/editing an fdi file i had found on a forum, but to no avail.=20 Asking for help is really a last resort for me, this is the first time = that patience, persistence, and a good deal of googling/man page reading = hasn't solve a problem for me. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 16:32:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8431065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:32:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1CF8FC15 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:32:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from pd5ml1no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.166]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2009 09:32:16 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=y7L6scWrvZDgGOvAvYkA:9 a=ybVFG_ht9sK4U_qCitm5FiMs9fcA:4 a=FC1De1sp-U4A:10 a=YaUzsf7C9dIA:10 Received: from s010600121729c74c.vc.shawcable.net (HELO proven.lan) ([24.85.241.34]) by pd5ml1no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2009 09:32:16 -0700 Received: from proven.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n25GWGCx073210 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:32:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by proven.lan (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n25GWFJi073209 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:32:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from npapke@acm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: proven.lan: npapke set sender to npapke@acm.org using -f From: Norbert Papke Organization: Archaeological Filing To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:32:15 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903050832.15869.npapke@acm.org> Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:32:18 -0000 On March 5, 2009, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d=EDa Thursday, March 05, 2009 a las 10:48:52AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar= > to=20 end this threat, I did: > > # dd if=3D/dev/zero of=3D/dev/da0 bs=3D64k count=3D1 > # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > # time cat file file file > /mnt/big > cat: stdout: File too large > 0.276u 19.421s 14:36.63 2.2% 11+1180k 33887+65536io 0pf+0w > > # df -kh /mnt > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0 7.5G 4.0G 3.5G 53% /mnt > > i.e. it writes the maximal file size of 4G in FAT32 and 3.5G are left as > free; Seems to work as it should. The maximum allowed file size on a FAT32 file= =20 system is 4GB (-1 byte). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#FAT32 Cheers, =2D- Norbert Papke. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 16:52:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A566106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:52:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9598FC17 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:52:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfGny-0003BW-Nv for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:52:18 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n25GqHHh020388 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:52:18 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5364BFCA4DB; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:52:12 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305165212.GA36902@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> <20090305041505.GA35138@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> <20090305132352.GA8574@marge.bs.l> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090305132352.GA8574@marge.bs.l> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:52:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:52:24 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 02:23:52PM +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > Hi Frank, Hi Bertram, > > Am Donnerstag, 05. Mär 2009, 04:15:05 +0000 schrieb Frank Shute: > > On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 04:08:03PM +0100, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > > from "man sh": > > > > > > Invocation > > > [...] the shell inspects > > > argument 0, and if it begins with a dash (`-'), the shell is also consid- > > > ered a login shell. [...] A login shell first reads commands from the > > > files /etc/profile and then .profile in a user's home directory, if they > > > exist. [...] > > > > > > I use Slim (X login manager) which calls > > > > > > exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc > > > > I've never before seen the syntax you've used and I think it comes > > from a misunderstanding of the manpage for sh and/or it's a bashism or > > a typo. > > It's the original FreeBSD port. I suggest you take up your problem with the maintainer. (Mentioned at top of /usr/ports/x11/slim/Makefile). It should "just work" if that's the case. > > > E.g: > > > > /bin/sh -c somecommand (login shell - arg 0 starts with a dash) > > Sorry, this doesn't call /etc/profile either. You're right. This is what my investigations reveal: $ /bin/sh date date: Can't open date: No such file or directory Not reading /etc/profile or ~/.profile $ /bin/sh -c date Thu Mar 5 16:33:17 GMT 2009 Reading ~/.profile but not /etc/profile I'm afraid I'm not a shell guru so I don't understand that particular weirdness. I think we need a shell wizard to explain it to us - these shells and sub-shells etc. are notoriously weird in my experience and half the time I just sacrifice goats to make it work. It could be that the manpage is wrong and the shell is just meant to read ~/.profile (or I'm reading it wrong). If nobody replies on this list, I suggest you post with your problem to hackers@ > > $ uname -v > FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jan 1 14:37:25 UTC 2009 root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC $ uname -v FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p2 #0: Wed Jan 28 21:45:37 GMT 2009 root@orange.esperance-linux.co.uk:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ORANGE_MP2 BTW, my user shell is ksh. > > Bertram > Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 17:07:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D63106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:07:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55CE8FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:07:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n25H7GDI014108; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:07:16 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ptHZxmrjcP9c; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:06:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n25H6dPX014104; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:06:40 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <49B0069F.4030106@daleco.biz> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:06:39 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthias Apitz References: <20090305081407.GA2242@rebelion.Sisis.de> <200903050109.27668.chuckop@gmail.com> <20090305093208.GA4342@rebelion.Sisis.de> <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> In-Reply-To: <20090305141217.GA11424@rebelion.Sisis.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB key with 7.5 GByte but no space left on device after 4 GByte written X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:07:28 -0000 Matthias Apitz wrote: > to end this threat, I did: > > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=64k count=1 > # newfs_msdos /dev/da0 > # mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0 /mnt > # time cat file file file > /mnt/big > cat: stdout: File too large > 0.276u 19.421s 14:36.63 2.2% 11+1180k 33887+65536io 0pf+0w > > # df -kh /mnt > Filesystem Size Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/da0 7.5G 4.0G 3.5G 53% /mnt > > i.e. it writes the maximal file size of 4G in FAT32 and 3.5G are left as > free; > > the write speed is > 4294963200 in 14:36.63 minutes, i.e. 4902926 per sec; > > matthias Probably I'm just making more noise; you didn't give any hardware details. Some manufacturers (I have a SanDisk Cruzer) are now putting multiple partitions on a flash stick; the Cruzer has one which, on Windows,emulates a CD-ROM drive (dunno why a CD emulation would take up 3.5 GB, tho). Kevin Kinsey -- It is sweet to let the mind unbend on occasion. -- Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace) From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 17:35:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10131065672 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og115.obsmtp.com (exprod7og115.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F6A08FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:35:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.198.235]) by exprod7ob115.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSbANeQ8p5xFtN824+TNitnT3spWPurND@postini.com; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:53 PST Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so27361rvb.45 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.42.10 with SMTP id u10mr760245rvj.61.1236274548727; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k41sm323083rvb.6.2009.03.05.09.35.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:35:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:35:31 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Steele To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <12446074.821236274528605.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <27757053.721236272524668.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: What's the best way to destroy a geom mirror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:35:54 -0000 I've created a USB boot disk that is used to clone itself onto the systems hard drives, setting up mirrored file systems in the process. The main difficulty I'm having is reimaging a system with an existing OS whose drives are already configured in a mirror. I want of course to destroy the mirror and create a complete new one, but I can't find the right process to accomplish this reliably. I am doing the following: # Cycle through each /dev/adNN drive and clean it. This has to be # done before the geom_mirror driver is loaded. disks=(`ls /dev/ad* | grep -v "s" | sed -e "s|/dev/||" -e "s|ad||" | sort -g`) for ((i = 0 ; i < ${#disks[@]} ; i++)); do disk=ad${disks[i]} dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/${disk} bs=512 count=79 done # Partition the drives as needed ... # Create the mirror, starting with the first drive in the list gmdisk=ad${disks[0]} gmirror load gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0 ${gmdisk}s1 This is where the problem occurs. If there was already a mirrored file system previously active on the system being reimaged, the label operation complains that it can't store the metadata on the indicated drive: gmirror: Can't store metadata on ad4s1: Operation not permitted. If I make sure the existing mirrors are torn down first by iterating through the drives and doing a "remove" operation, this can solve the problem, but in some cases the mirror is in a suspect state and I've seen the "gmirror load" command hang idefiinitely. So I don't want to do a load command before I destroy the old mirrors, but I can't seem to find a way to reliably destroy the old mirrors. Can anyone suggest a way to do this? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 17:44:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52DD1065673 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:44:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@binary-front.com) Received: from eastrmmtao102.cox.net (eastrmmtao102.cox.net [68.230.240.8]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7BF8FC0C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:44:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@binary-front.com) Received: from eastrmimpo02.cox.net ([68.1.16.120]) by eastrmmtao102.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20090305174417.WBQO8735.eastrmmtao102.cox.net@eastrmimpo02.cox.net> for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:44:17 -0500 Received: from reaktor.binary-front.com ([68.97.70.90]) by eastrmimpo02.cox.net with bizsmtp id PVkE1b0031wrrdg02VkEZk; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:44:16 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rwQAVkB4B0mqOK1F0zMA:9 a=c1T5nblyp1_aHzjy4cAA:7 a=6FazJ4AsWXFwqGD1-evfmdWDsUcA:4 a=oqs56FR1YJwA:10 a=KKNzj6kNmOLgVfUt4ekA:9 a=qoLWgAhbzFr2KVXCvTQA:7 a=I3t9WPEsfYRznjNHBL-bz4qSRUYA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:46:24 -0600 Message-ID: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Double Post Thread-Index: Acmduk1F2EwsTeJ3Q42F9wOyxniM7A== From: "Mark A. Maupin" To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Double Post X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:44:18 -0000 Sorry for the double posting there guys.... My session timed out and i didnt think the 1st message sent. I don't remember re-sending it, but i was in the middle of my=20 morning coffee at the time, so not sure what happened there. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 18:15:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36441065672 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:15:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E63F8FC20 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:15:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so45130bwz.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:15:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to :content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VEWkSqlTO/8GSpNETtIfJRE8vLr2FIzOi+2a7ovu21I=; b=Mf2QNlT3RRG4GT4HOwlc9bxHgnXwlYiw0aM+v6fXjX1bb5+d07AA5Fb+wo+flcU+3Q VOqcpVGMz8ACxGjwdTsem2g0jojVe6DL18SEJ1WOAmwmhmFzWHBLCd0z6LE6BnURGMxA Qf+fk5yoa5TU5FiNR4NJQp+4cIT/9dErc6uYY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=UfYLJT6eFKAPyKZ1n8zICgVG490lGsvT/ReXm584rqI5CU82hAGQ21XrU5Xx0vYZy5 JviDpXfqEeKoRll5Qb267cl3t8Ww2gamf7H0FGv/KspLSrMQV2l4Iz7RjEjsKN1PEtui G6Nn+wwrq6rNS3DYQRgE8N2XxSYmnm7FdTn9o= Received: by 10.103.49.12 with SMTP id b12mr656354muk.98.1236275227348; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.30.1.145? (vpn-or.studi-planet.com [78.47.172.52]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b9sm388184mug.2.2009.03.05.09.47.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:47:06 -0800 (PST) From: Mister Olli To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:46:08 +0100 Message-Id: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Monitoring geom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mister.olli@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:15:27 -0000 Hi hi... What is the best way to monitor geom software raids (gmirror & gvinum raid5)??? The solution I'm searching for should be a kind of script which checks the status, and drops me an email if something is wrong. I found a nagios plugin, but currently I'm unable to invest enough time to get nagios up and running for the customer... Thanks a lot... greetz Olli From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 18:41:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2EC1065678 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from mail1.etv.net (mail1.etv.net [66.111.113.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93C88FC0C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:41:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from efinleywork@efinley.com) Received: from efinley04.etv.net ([74.214.237.51]) by mail1.etv.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LfHoO-000Lgo-Vn; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:56:50 -0700 Message-ID: <49B01261.5010200@efinley.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:56:49 -0700 From: Elliot Finley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Key References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:41:57 -0000 Christopher Key wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking to substantially expand the storage on my FreeBSD 6.3 home > media server. With regards hardware, the simplest way to attach large > numbers of drives seem to be to use SATA port multipliers, but I've been > unable to find any consensus on their level of support in FreeBSD. I'm > currently looking at a RocketRAID 2314 and SiI3726 based port > multipliers. Has any had any experience with this combination? Why not just upgrade to 7-Stable and then use these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 they cost less than port multipliers. They don't do RAID, but then if you're on 7-Stable, you can use ZFS zraid. Elliot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 19:11:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAE7106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianf@ozemail.com.au) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.107]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CE28FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ianf@ozemail.com.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgBAASsr0l8qBnK/2dsb2JhbAAI2GWECAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,308,1233500400"; d="scan'208";a="446216006" Received: from unknown (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([124.168.25.202]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 06 Mar 2009 03:41:57 +0900 Message-ID: <49B01CED.6080804@ozemail.com.au> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:41:49 +1100 From: Ian Fitzgerald User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090305-0, 05/03/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Free Pascal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:11:11 -0000 Can anyone point me to a method of installing Free Pascal Compiler? I am running FBSD 7.1, with KDE4. The last attempt deleted a file used by X-windows (and perhaps others), but I had no specific instructions as a guide. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 20:23:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DFE106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:23:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6128FC13 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:23:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n25KMRr1075969; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:22:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n25KMRiP075966; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:22:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:22:27 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Elliot Finley In-Reply-To: <49B01261.5010200@efinley.com> Message-ID: References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> <49B01261.5010200@efinley.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: questions@freebsd.org, Christopher Key Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:23:17 -0000 > Why not just upgrade to 7-Stable and then use these: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 > > they cost less than port multipliers. They don't do RAID, but then if you're > on 7-Stable, you can use ZFS zraid. > or use geom based RAIDs and UFS thanks for URL, anyway new machines usually don't have PCI-X From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 20:23:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E1E106564A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo1so.shaw.ca [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55BA48FC16 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:23:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd2ml1so-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.141.139]) by pd4mo1so-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2009 13:23:50 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=UZO-i8GdXS56Ej3N3OgA:9 a=w3RI_Q6B4mLk1vb3Axmwf0B1_4IA:4 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd2ml1so-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Mar 2009 13:23:50 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38781701E for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:23:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:23:48 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090305122348.6a466e20@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <49B01CED.6080804@ozemail.com.au> References: <49B01CED.6080804@ozemail.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Free Pascal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:23:51 -0000 On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:41:49 +1100 Ian Fitzgerald wrote: > Can anyone point me to a method of installing Free Pascal Compiler? > /usr/ports/lang/fpc or pkg_add -r fpc we use gpc (gnu pascal compiler): /usr/ports/lang/gpc or pkg_add -r gpc -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 21:30:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519A21065688 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from out4.smtp.messagingengine.com (out4.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285A28FC16 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:30:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jeffrey@goldmark.org) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6306F2E5CE7; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:30:25 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: 6kvWN4T1sfYi1/9LJZ05xdhrfR01kByq6o8J5S4BvRPm 1236288625 Received: from hagrid.ewd.goldmark.org (n114.ewd.goldmark.org [72.64.118.114]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E50AD26B93; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:30:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4486FE43-8F97-4226-A63F-7B715A705798@goldmark.org> From: Jeffrey Goldberg To: David Karapetyan In-Reply-To: <20090305082846.GF2705@vagrant.math.nd.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:30:23 -0600 References: <20090305082846.GF2705@vagrant.math.nd.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quirk with latex-suite] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:30:26 -0000 On Mar 5, 2009, at 2:28 AM, David Karapetyan wrote: > Hello; I am having a funny little problem with latex-suite. Is that the name of the port? I don't see anything by that name in my ports tree. Googling around, I see that latex-suite is a plug-in for vim. > When I press > , and am prompted with a list of environments to insert, no matter > which I choose, it is inserted with a superfluous " that appears right > before the cursor. So, for example, > > \begin{equation} > "cursor_is_here > \end{equation} One thing to check is whether your version of latex-suite is appropriate for your version of vim. It may be that move to vim 7 broke something. > Does latex-suite do this by default? What file do I need to edit to > change this setting (I'd like to get rid of the quote mark). I'm afraid I've never used it (on any platform, though I think I might give it a try). If you don't get any useful help on the FreeBSD list, try joining https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/vim-latex-devel Also the Usenet group comp.text.tex is remarkably helpful. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 22:38:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9081106566C for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiellenon@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740108FC0A for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:38:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aiellenon@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so106726ywt.13 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:38:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Jj6DovW8K4q1dCBqLX4qM2U9oH4yD7ThaMlbTKhkS0w=; b=Zpc3oPb+ebdDg0ai80bgvkIqLtjFfYoxsUTGkCv+UPEtgvji3szZWHnQds1MZKM2Cd Y0mnnzeocgKqB+jOob+n2C4NAXj3lB8LUto40rLAhVZK9NRyrZFYPvsf5+r7Gq788w7d 3YVF1K1VmXnXMtlVSPVnnpYVxXhECex/qv7D8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=O76x9lGYpl642G3Gat0mR30KhRlOuq8Na9YY2hLm/CI1xUw1CREd15nOpTqJI6k+Xb yeCddjUDOJIt94rzRqfW1+8Zdgz7GZg94rjg2ThYynByyWrLs8SZwBxcxfnDox4iR7+T Y1SKdUk2+uOErT1CWPeY49zf8fr5v8tDFzwE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: aiellenon@gmail.com Received: by 10.90.70.6 with SMTP id s6mr502530aga.38.1236290888356; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:08:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:08:08 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: db91df704297404d Message-ID: <14d354f60903051408w4e89eee5y2f2885cd3e10ca1b@mail.gmail.com> From: joel perry To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: 7.1-release and KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:38:40 -0000 Attempting to pkg_add kde4 fails because the lame3.97_1.tgz is not located in the latest ftp location. I and many others would appreciate it if you would add lame to latest folder so that this package will install. It was previously available in the 7.0 release. -- Joel Perry SBSC Registered Microsoft Partner 803.800.5650 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 23:24:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1F31065670 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F2D8FC19 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:24:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from modulok@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so151731fxm.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:24:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=0szwfBzriw/3bPTTTXXXsKClg6DDjueUux/cyuTHQoY=; b=w1kx57Hmhr20H4ogOT9p6neN78VHj/RTzGFaptovhWKwhYBFCw4ioYgfkw0PVXJ79p 4r8xNynDoYCdvj5XET/Pe7PtaTsOYJY70b4hm3rsOUzWD8bGQmZUpbDRBgprDe08SzJY QeePNbhetCJa18zcDDgvNeg2pPrtd75q5RdvA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tVZiRU6hbwFQBu/SUGlCsrbwiuTYvxnTtE7jQVClTe6CaCVy4Vgn//RpLb5Fzw7aWx M3k65sL/z5uNbjMy6CCCS5JJY7qVRXkTQrE4sCGoz0Ulc25BC9jQO4AThFAlKHvsYSLy BLLya97F/432jlSM4vC6T5e+ZyNAshyC/gAgM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.93.18 with SMTP id v18mr783187mul.111.1236295455188; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:24:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> References: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:24:15 -0700 Message-ID: <64c038660903051524l71ecead9i321ccb71257d6a9a@mail.gmail.com> From: Modulok To: mister.olli@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring geom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:24:17 -0000 I'm not sure what the 'best' way to monitor a geom is but this should, in theory, work. I wrote it while eating lunch, so obviously it hasn't been tested much and probably contains bugs. If someone, perhaps here on the list, could offer suggested changes (or a better way), that'd be great! Hopefully the indentation won't get screwed up too badly in transit. If so, ask and I can email it as a plain-text attachment. # Script below: #!/bin/sh # DESCRIPTION: # Heartbeat script to check the status of geoms. If a geom is degraded, # This script will email the administrator. # # USAGE: # Place this script in a directory which will be writable by the UID who will # be executing this script via cron. Setup a cron job to execute it at # regular intervals. # # BUGS: # THIS SCRIPT HAS NOT BEEN TESTED! USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! # admin="you@example.com" host=`hostname` subject="Gmirror is degraded on $host" output=`gmirror status` count=`gmirror status | grep -i -c "degraded"` stateFile="gmirror.emailSent" if [ $count -gt 0 ] then # The geom is degraded. if [ ! -w "$stateFile" ] then # Send an email and remember that we sent an email: gmirror status | mail -s "$subject" "$admin" touch "$stateFile" fi fi # The geom is fine, remove the email state file. if [ $count -eq 0 ] then if [ -w "$stateFile" ] then rm "$stateFile" fi fi # End Script It's a thought, anyway. -Modulok- On 3/5/09, Mister Olli wrote: > Hi hi... > > What is the best way to monitor geom software raids (gmirror & gvinum > raid5)??? > > The solution I'm searching for should be a kind of script which checks > the status, and drops me an email if something is wrong. > > I found a nagios plugin, but currently I'm unable to invest enough time > to get nagios up and running for the customer... > > Thanks a lot... > > greetz > Olli > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 23:40:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020EA10656CC for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:40:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4968FC12 for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:40:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-109-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.109.64]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D66916C00E1; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:40:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n25Ne3Ex001572; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:40:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:40:03 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Bertram Scharpf Message-Id: <20090306004003.99091e42.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> References: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:40:11 -0000 Good evening Betram et al. I've read the discussion thread as far as it went and would like to share my own solution to a similar problem, mapped onto the sh topic. Maybe it works. A little background: First of all, because my standard dialog shell is the system's C shell, the files important are /etc/cshrc with the settings, such as setenv, alias and path, furthermore /etc/csh.login to be executed after login, and /etc/csh.logout, executed after logout. Local to the user exist ~/.cshrc, ~/.login and ~/.logout which are used if present. In order to make X work properly with these settings, I have a kind of "two stages mechanism" which consists of the files ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession. The first one is used by X (xdm) to determine what to do after successful user login, e. g. start some programs and then exec the window manager / desktop environment. Note that both files are chmodded executable: % ll .xsession .xinitrc -rwxr-xr-x 1 poly pgm 807 Mar 3 02:46 .xinitrc* -rwxr-xr-x 1 poly pgm 43 Apr 27 2006 .xsession* The ~/.xsession doesn't do anything besides first incorporate settings from ~/.cshrc and then execute ~/.xinitrc. #!/bin/csh source ~/.cshrc exec ~/.xinitrc It is shebanged with the shell I want to use, which is the C shell. If ~/.xsession is called, it's last action is to execute ~/.xinitrc. If ~/.xsession is NOT called, ~/.xinitrc will be executed anyway. It does the following: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.xmodmaprc ] && xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc xrandr --size 1400x1050 & xrandr --fb 1400x1050 & xsetroot -solid rgb:3b/4c/7a # ... your initializations 'n stuff here ... exec wmaker Note that this script is shebanged for sh again. Any X terminals started now (with csh inside) have the settings from ~/.cshrc. Mapped onto the initial sh problem, I'd suggest to create the two files mentioned as follows: ~/.xsession: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.shrc ] && . ~/.shrc [ -f ~/.profile ] && . ~/.profile exec ~/.xinitrc ~/.xinitrc: #!/bin/sh [ -f ~/.shrc ] && . ~/.shrc [ -f ~/.profile ] && . ~/.profile my_init_stuff_1 my_init_stuff_2 my_init_stuff_3 exec my_wm_startup Now any instance of sh started should be aware of the settings. Finally, please note that I'm not a guru for sh (or bash) because I do use sh only for scripting, and bash never. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 23:45:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB26106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:45:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B755A8FC1B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:45:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from arab@tangerine-army.co.uk) Received: from [172.23.170.137] (helo=anti-virus01-08) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LfMyH-0004tb-4k; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:27:21 +0000 Received: from [92.238.154.32] (helo=Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1LfMyG-0003vT-6D; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:27:20 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:29:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295652@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <49B01261.5010200@efinley.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) thread-index: AcmdwnyU9VhnvyBbRYqqaMOzbKRTFgAJy+0g References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> <49B01261.5010200@efinley.com> From: "Graeme Dargie" To: "Elliot Finley" , "Christopher Key" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:45:56 -0000 -----Original Message----- From: Elliot Finley [mailto:efinleywork@efinley.com]=20 Sent: 05 March 2009 17:57 To: Christopher Key Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) Christopher Key wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I'm looking to substantially expand the storage on my FreeBSD 6.3 home > media server. With regards hardware, the simplest way to attach large > numbers of drives seem to be to use SATA port multipliers, but I've been=20 > unable to find any consensus on their level of support in FreeBSD. I'm=20 > currently looking at a RocketRAID 2314 and SiI3726 based port=20 > multipliers. Has any had any experience with this combination? Why not just upgrade to 7-Stable and then use these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16815121009 they cost less than port multipliers. They don't do RAID, but then if=20 you're on 7-Stable, you can use ZFS zraid. Elliot _______________________________________________ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I had utter hell with a belkin pci sata card which used a silicon image chipset. The main problem would show up when writing a large amount of data to the drives which were in a zfs array. I even tried this card on 3 different motherboards with various combinations of sata hard disks and the result was the same when writing a large amount of data, a drive would randomly disconnect from the system. I understand from reading sata controllers based on a promise chipset are much better under freebsd 7. In then end I trumped for a new motherboard with 6 sata ports on it and it is running 6 x 500gb drives in a ZFS array just perfectly. Regards Graeme From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 5 23:56:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31B8106566B for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BFBC8FC1D for ; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:56:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LfNQV-0004HR-Pd for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:56:31 +0000 Received: from pool-70-21-13-242.res.east.verizon.net ([70.21.13.242]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:56:31 +0000 Received: from nightrecon by pool-70-21-13-242.res.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:56:31 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Powell Followup-To: gmane.os.freebsd.questions Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:57:18 -0500 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <49AFA0F4.2050400@a1poweruser.com> <20090305074004.f2437571.wmoran@potentialtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-70-21-13-242.res.east.verizon.net User-Agent: KNode/0.99.01 Sender: news Subject: Re: php5 changes in release 8.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: nightrecon@verizon.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:56:35 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > In response to Fbsd1 : > >> Having problems installing php5 in 7.1 so tried 8.0 and see that in >> release 8.0 php5 in defaulting to apache 22 when apache interface is >> selected from the make config menu. The config menu should give option >> to select apache 13 or apache 22 not force apache 22 on the user >> community. Is the maintainer going to change the config menu before php5 >> 8.0 is released for production? > > If you want a different version of Apache, all you have to do is install > Apache first, then PHP will use the version you have installed. > > It's always been that way. It's just that up till now the default was > 1.3. It's _LOOONG_ past time when the default should have moved to 2.X. > Could always try APACHE_PORT= www/apache13 in /etc/make.conf, or somesuch, whichever incantation is used these days. Ref: /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.apache.mk -Mike From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 00:03:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C68106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Daan@vehosting.nl) Received: from VM01.VEHosting.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f14:32d::1:140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9700F8FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Daan@vehosting.nl) Received: from [192.168.2.223] (205-244.ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl [88.159.244.205] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by VM01.VEHosting.nl (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2603Zcr087928; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:03:36 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Daan@vehosting.nl) From: Daan Vreeken Organization: VEHosting - Vitsch Electronics Hosting To: Christopher Key Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:03:16 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903060103.16752.Daan@vehosting.nl> x-ve-auth-version: mi-1.0.3 2008-05-30 - Copyright (c) 2008 - Daan Vreeken - VEHosting x-ve-auth: authenticated as 'pa4dan' on VM01.VEHosting.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:03:36 -0000 Hi Christopher, On Thursday 05 March 2009 15:25:35 Christopher Key wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking to substantially expand the storage on my FreeBSD 6.3 home > media server. With regards hardware, the simplest way to attach large > numbers of drives seem to be to use SATA port multipliers, but I've been > unable to find any consensus on their level of support in FreeBSD. I'm > currently looking at a RocketRAID 2314 and SiI3726 based port > multipliers. Has any had any experience with this combination? The Sil3726 works very well if you run a recent enough version of FreeBSD. = We=20 use the device in a custom storage appliance. I don't know the RocketRAID=20 2314 though. You need a SATA 2.0 controller for Port Multipliers to work. =46reeBSD has (experimental) support for Port Multipliers since the followi= ng=20 commit : On Thursday 10 April 2008 15:05:05 S=F8ren Schmidt wrote: > sos 2008-04-10 13:05:05 UTC > > FreeBSD src repository =2E.. > Log: > Add experimental support for SATA Port Multipliers > > Support is working on the Silicon Image SiI3124/3132. > Support is working on some AHCI chips but far from all. > > Remember this is WIP, so test reports and (constructive) suggestions are > welcome! Regards, =2D-=20 Daan Vreeken VEHosting http://VEHosting.nl tel: +31-(0)40-7113050 / +31-(0)6-46210825 KvK nr: 17174380 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 00:43:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49974106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:43:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BD08FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:43:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrewlylegould@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so165103bwz.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:43:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nr40bJXJwvpio4kULICR1R2xwHLkz7V7M7PlY0WFdu8=; b=RX/+Tb2Aje7/O0ajd/EQs9kkhZG+S8+ov40+yfUaR5fSsI5EtmFB3ClQtOAkWrks6o jjfZAYIn24PO5PzKUCuO/xaKfL1F+FqTHkNTvDRuoP2WKy285CD86PoG0GnlCw1whdZw Wc290l9UGEdX7J0duqdI7sg8Xc6NdXohy3gRk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WP/RWZdkcqR7qG/Ei4uZJx9S3Sdv4riBZLQgiTyQ6FqnDGvmRlpARaysZCofuWMnOe objF3FHZ92OaB5kReSCyIZh9yUyXzx1cIlgxui81yd8EpQpFfqSybHmtD4DZYntzJ75s pVd6rwTF6weRqEdkmErwLdVWxngFsOE7AZpzI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.220.18 with SMTP id x18mr800933muq.135.1236300222588; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:43:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <14d354f60903051408w4e89eee5y2f2885cd3e10ca1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <14d354f60903051408w4e89eee5y2f2885cd3e10ca1b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:43:42 -0600 Message-ID: From: Andrew Gould To: joel perry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-release and KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:43:45 -0000 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:08 PM, joel perry wrote: > Attempting to pkg_add kde4 fails because the lame3.97_1.tgz is not located > in the latest ftp location. I and many others would appreciate it if you > would add lame to latest folder so that this package will install. It was > previously available in the 7.0 release. > > -- > Joel Perry > SBSC Registered Microsoft Partner > 803.800.5650 > > Lame was available on the ftp site? Are you sure? I thought lame was one of the packages that couldn't be distributed in binary form due to license restrictions. 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The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --728547764-98663346-1236301147=:5288 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi all, We´re looking for good hosting services that offer instalations of FreeBSD in dedicated servers. Any one could point some? Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few with FreeBSD. The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just a simple custom partition modification, cannot be done. Thank you, - Marcelo --728547764-98663346-1236301147=:5288-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 01:01:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EC8106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:01:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEA38FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:01:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glen.j.barber@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so167907bwz.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:01:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TtpoF019uOt90/CseqfqMn8uepoaJsoN/94GrGXhOOo=; b=lw1xV7FJLvJi3/RovBlwigk6QIxCQn1q0VtNHHrXp+Sq9IGLc9YieT+ryqYinPdkMa iXPDzoXTAt0WRDmTkWvaYFhuJp/BaibRCIsoUN92CDYTbaMEAUYI7VU+bVt1iVMRPpRI BAa0yV3TIi0fzWCo2kgMdFn1RyrThYqVxCKcc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gOeKC/gVP141Aw7Ck4Cvaj5xvHXGvriX0kTfJYoRfd84QWQkoVvJW3Yh5Vo3+gr3WN 26/JaM7wsY270Tn2ScW7yc53YKVVHtkzVS/wmzLvRF5aVsNv5DA3e0ziSX4J5qEmWFcz Wb9GWBJyd0Xl29pXiGha/zHsXuTRh+ghaIsbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.113.200 with SMTP id b8mr1499495faq.84.1236301269004; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:01:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:01:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4ad871310903051701x21cd06cbs2b6fb1d5fa9603e1@mail.gmail.com> From: Glen Barber To: scuba@centroin.com.br Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:01:11 -0000 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:59 PM, wrote: > Hi all, > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0We=B4re looking for good hosting services that offer insta= lations of > FreeBSD in dedicated servers. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Any one could point some? > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only fe= w with > FreeBSD. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Jus= t a simple > custom partition modification, cannot be done. > http://www.google.com/search?hl=3Den&q=3Dfreebsd+dedicated+server&btnG=3DGo= ogle+Search&aq=3D0&oq=3Dfreebsd+dedicated&safe=3Dimages --=20 Glen Barber From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 01:02:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7ED10656E8 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:02:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D4F8FC1C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:02:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-109-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.109.64]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9693CD22; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:02:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n2612R31001898; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:02:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:02:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Andrew Gould Message-Id: <20090306020227.deb5cecb.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <14d354f60903051408w4e89eee5y2f2885cd3e10ca1b@mail.gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: joel perry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 7.1-release and KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:02:45 -0000 On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:43:42 -0600, Andrew Gould wrote: > I thought lame was one of the packages that couldn't be distributed in > binary form due to license restrictions. In the past, it really was. But I think it was possible to add it via pkg_add. It's some time ago, but memory serves me right, I did pkg_add -r lame because it was possible... if there was a way to find out if some software has been installed via port OR package, I could find this out. :-) Because of the few dependencies, it's no problem to use the port to install it first, then pkg_add -r the KDE 4 packages. Maybe install nasm prior to make. The Makefile of lame still states: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ If licensing problems are still present, there may be no way to put a precompiled package onto the FTP server. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 01:05:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C2A106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571948FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:05:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from claudiu.vasadi@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so168605bwz.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:05:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:cc :content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=2NW6Y2tz7fFrw2KcChEhB0QTDTRzNnJm7NtCHLa2r24=; b=HOEfKHODGrarfeR2izWg2MNEy7m7w0YZbF3fSO4uNjwmdg+tOlXDnXoIKuJzdPVDst YCYy22/aRf+x7u4U3w95vUUFny/2sgMMJhXCJ7NjfKvkr2DOFb35GRIxNkSwyqqzckMT ngnY8JHu7a+u9KcEgSWBncn0Msz0376E3Yc0A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:to:subject:from:cc:content-type:mime-version:references :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=cR8XMv++MdXtON4lMqS8TrkKKywwCxUdvgRCEtJob1+3dh7QmXu7rTMZ/eKZm6NEj0 4PkNEaKJHmYQsNBQyd2N9Oew6309wmMH9P8N9klnH6eGNQClY0ciwDZHpNRLHvqXhgmf hbSDgKpJLe27+wZtRL+Mm3o6rPMl5poAFIcQk= Received: by 10.223.127.8 with SMTP id e8mr1501601fas.80.1236301542146; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from da1-desktop-x64 ([79.113.14.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k29sm935122fkk.36.2009.03.05.17.05.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:05:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:00:47 +0200 To: scuba@centroin.com.br From: "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.63 (Win32) Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:05:45 -0000 also calpop @ calpop.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 01:09:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8ED106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:09:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9008FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:09:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nlandys@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so547954gxk.19 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:09:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WCUNDReXea0Vo1HeVnVq2bDg3kbZUvWQ6LdfoL34rUg=; b=jP+W60I/0t0H2oi2hQHkt0sBMOKqUYfmtBGI/Jcy472IBMzhLMUw63JxKbKQMDjmkG 8Ti/Teumd5H4pxANnlHmcdCCSNq248VyARD05n2R8NsPdmGD3Ktfn+m0/FCBJbIStf0E 5Amx8Px4n7Nv79N/NlPliMTzVWJTVwH4T9nls= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Hkpkuxfl3JGs+CvgFknstzGPn273xMyVKBOM9kvw1WSDGecBoPpJ1+7zWnc73L2PeX 3GcqvYFggRAs27reJ5h/CE+na971Ax2hqXtJeAKuRAPVQcuSObUbdpBaK4cz3lf8Ru8S zoaAT81caI4pX2nLvQe2gKpCEMykUNmKjW63s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.74.3 with SMTP id s3mr643261vcj.54.1236301742513; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:09:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:09:02 -0800 Message-ID: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> From: Nerius Landys To: scuba@centroin.com.br Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:09:03 -0000 > We=B4re looking for good hosting services that offer instalations = of > FreeBSD in dedicated servers. > Any one could point some? > Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few with > FreeBSD. > The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just a simp= le > custom partition modification, cannot be done. There is (believe it or not) a webpage on the freebsd.org website that lists some commercial businesses that offer colocation and/or dedicated servers: http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html My server is colocated with m5hosting.com (halfway down on that page) in San Diego. I'm very happy with them. I'm running 5 video game servers for the free game Urban Terror on my server. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 02:02:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D09F106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:02:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-fx0-f158.google.com (mail-fx0-f158.google.com [209.85.220.158]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB4E8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:02:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j65nko@gmail.com) Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so182036fxm.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:02:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=quAgvYtoMcbIMmQV03EuguEzsT4mopmG7egdO7FicbY=; b=Mw7RTWbLld8DFEb03NNyolv02BKmwcO2CMufonWYgNBytrLz60E7eG8jSoLxKWN4K3 2WR3/CyV7QZ2xNdtv/1bftUCB1cpWLoHwcZE3I8q9wynl9XApPt5fuYJ1RNAmBl3UFhr 8klf7Tk+Qk98/9P0xrFlyUa6GOLA9ibIyaQo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UiebwhwuMaYsMwI0RHw3W23ECMYl9M8N0CV3EJkfDk3OM4am4gYZOH8HDdcusD8TFe aCggSfYR54Etpjbm9lxiw6NO+GX9KPjdYuwL6IHKFWcGIzAY7+R7BfYs46mKxDWiLVsi r91yHszKsvoNUCdpOulKw/DERMaxF/GfhEXpU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.181.206.7 with SMTP id i7mr587719bkq.126.1236303704079; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:41:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> References: <20090304150803.GA30617@marge.bs.l> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:41:44 +0100 Message-ID: <19861fba0903051741t58c7c622q12bd4619eda7f4bb@mail.gmail.com> From: J65nko To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:02:36 -0000 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > Hi, > > from "man sh": > > Invocation > [...] When first starting, the shell inspects > argument 0, and if it begins with a dash (`-'), the shell is also consid- > ered a login shell. This is normally done automatically by the system > when the user first logs in. A login shell first reads commands from the > files /etc/profile and then .profile in a user's home directory, if they > exist. [...] > > I use Slim (X login manager) which calls > > exec /bin/sh - ~/.xinitrc > > I first wondered why none of my commands in "/etc/profile" and > "~/.profile" got executed. Finally, I modified > "/usr/src/bin/sh/main.c" to trace what files are read, recompiled > the "sh" command and: the only file that is executed is "~/.shrc". > > I just cannot believe that FreeBSD has such a severe bug. What is > going wrong here? > Put the following in a file called ".Xresources" : XTerm*loginShell: true =Adriaan= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 02:11:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC3E1065673 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og102.obsmtp.com (exprod7og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.157]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B30C8FC24 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:11:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.200.171]) by exprod7ob102.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSbCGWL81xxXFJ17RnEn0gYFsRtlO4LdX@postini.com; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:11:37 PST Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 28so246490wfa.11 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.164.21 with SMTP id m21mr445593wfe.306.1236305496645; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm1000161wff.2.2009.03.05.18.11.35 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:11:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:11:18 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Steele To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <31137799.01236305475066.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <20090306004003.99091e42.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:11:38 -0000 >I first wondered why none of my commands in "/etc/profile" and >"~/.profile" got executed. Finally, I modified >"/usr/src/bin/sh/main.c" to trace what files are read, recompiled >the "sh" command and: the only file that is executed is "~/.shrc". > >I just cannot believe that FreeBSD has such a severe bug. What is >going wrong here? I have a similar problem, but with bash. I have both my personal account and root set to use bash instead of sh and when I login the .bashrc file is not read. My system does not have an X environment, it's plain old BSD. How can I get it to load .bashrc when I login? I'm using a 7.0 binary release. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 02:18:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DBE91065672 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:18:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carl@chave.us) Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E178FC13 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:18:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carl@chave.us) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so211782qwe.7 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:18:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.94.148 with SMTP id z20mr1140766qcm.106.1236304415858; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:53:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> References: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:53:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Carl Chave To: mister.olli@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring geom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:18:55 -0000 >From Michael Lucas' Absolute FreeBSD book page 550: FreeBSD can include a status check of your mirrored disks in its daily periodic(8) run. Just add the line daily_status_gmirror_enable="YES" to /etc/periodic.conf. Not sure about other raid types beyond mirrors. On 3/5/09, Mister Olli wrote: > > Hi hi... > > What is the best way to monitor geom software raids (gmirror & gvinum > raid5)??? > > The solution I'm searching for should be a kind of script which checks > the status, and drops me an email if something is wrong. > > I found a nagios plugin, but currently I'm unable to invest enough time > to get nagios up and running for the customer... > > Thanks a lot... > > greetz > Olli > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 02:22:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02C59106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:22:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DF68FC19 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:22:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-109-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.109.64]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8906716C0239; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:22:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n262LxNB002475; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:21:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:21:59 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Peter Steele Message-Id: <20090306032159.12ea365a.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <31137799.01236305475066.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> References: <20090306004003.99091e42.freebsd@edvax.de> <31137799.01236305475066.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:22:07 -0000 On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:11:18 -0800 (PST), Peter Steele wrote: > I have a similar problem, but with bash. I have both my personal > account and root set to use bash instead of sh and when I login > the .bashrc file is not read. My system does not have an X > environment, it's plain old BSD. How can I get it to load .bashrc > when I login? I'm using a 7.0 binary release. I read from the manpage bash-3.2.25 according to the FILES section: /etc/profile The systemwide initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bash_profile The personal initialization file, executed for login shells ~/.bashrc The individual per-interactive-shell startup file When the shell is the login shell (prefixed with - in the process list), it seems that it needs to read ~/.bash_profile (and not the ~/.bashrc file). So you could put . ~/.bashrc into ~/.bash_profile to get a workaround. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 02:27:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DF61065670 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:27:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from mailout.zetnet.co.uk (mailout.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.231]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C017F8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:27:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank@esperance-linux.co.uk) Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk) by mailout.zetnet.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LfPmK-0002c3-0a; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:27:12 +0000 Received: from melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (54-144.adsl.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.54.144]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.14.1/8.14.1/Debian-9) with ESMTP id n262RBBl008653; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:27:11 GMT Received: by melon.esperance-linux.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 74B85FCA6A0; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:27:06 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:27:06 +0000 From: Frank Shute To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090306022706.GA38428@melon.esperance-linux.co.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Steele , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20090306004003.99091e42.freebsd@edvax.de> <31137799.01236305475066.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <31137799.01236305475066.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Face: *}~{PHnDTzvXPe'wl_-f%!@+r5; VLhb':*DsX%wEOPg\fDrXWQJf|2\,92"DdS%63t*BHDyQ|OWo@Gfjcd72eaN!4%NE{0]p)ihQ1MyFNtWL X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.4-RELEASE-p2 i386 X-Organisation: 'http://www.shute.org.uk/' X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.1.7 (zetnet.co.uk [194.247.46.1]); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:27:11 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /bin/sh does not read profile X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Shute List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:27:17 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 06:11:18PM -0800, Peter Steele wrote: > > >I first wondered why none of my commands in "/etc/profile" and > >"~/.profile" got executed. Finally, I modified > >"/usr/src/bin/sh/main.c" to trace what files are read, recompiled > >the "sh" command and: the only file that is executed is "~/.shrc". > > > >I just cannot believe that FreeBSD has such a severe bug. What is > >going wrong here? > > I have a similar problem, but with bash. I have both my personal > account and root set to use bash instead of sh and when I login the > .bashrc file is not read. My system does not have an X environment, > it's plain old BSD. How can I get it to load .bashrc when I login? > I'm using a 7.0 binary release. You should be able to put: source $HOME/.bashrc in ~/.bash_profile That's if $HOME is set. Otherwise use the full path. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 03:24:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B87D106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:24:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262E98FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xxjack12xx@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so154280ywt.13 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:24:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y9s7y89y4FJ9MqvZTtD0XFcZBmheglWMki+F/a4nOpM=; b=RZ8Ci3P9Nso5g5bWvpIVT0paYoSP5RQo2WRzMNWvxlYHHvwA2pzO9ykJf9LWECc3su 7Lb6/cOI4t2BuSw43x18CgxWCmt6puGSBR5IQ81uZqMXS0AHlDQmMplRMIhqIxukljCl FR/UuQqM2a8pLx3r5a8QogTe98aSgkEGe8X8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aqPW+pneT/4aVuDoxc6dku1tMQW/N6NFa2TWLifRj/M8jwOhUugIR4ODKfvJp8GO0J YrhXCFqkZZt63w06mEvEKcM/rDexrZlWFhFYYdT0ztV4ncx6tzoRKaLwD8wDa3imu+O2 nyhT4DOvubrwHQaEmMzhg3m/UIP+dr1JMReQY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.158.2 with SMTP id k2mr3466874ybo.119.1236308216307; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:56:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 18:56:56 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Jack L." To: Nerius Landys Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: scuba@centroin.com.br, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:24:49 -0000 I provide that hosting and sharktech does as well. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: >> We=C2=B4re looking for good hosting services that offer instalati= ons of >> FreeBSD in dedicated servers. >> Any one could point some? >> Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few with >> FreeBSD. >> The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just a sim= ple >> custom partition modification, cannot be done. > > There is (believe it or not) a webpage on the freebsd.org website that > lists some commercial businesses that offer colocation and/or > dedicated servers: > > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html > > My server is colocated with m5hosting.com (halfway down on that page) > in San Diego. I'm very happy with them. I'm running 5 video game > servers for the free game Urban Terror on my server. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 03:51:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEAB106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=zTVU56=7F=shell.siscom.net=vogelke@siscom.net) Received: from lamorack.siscom.net (lamorack.siscom.net [209.251.2.116]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEA68FC2A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:51:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from SRS0=zTVU56=7F=shell.siscom.net=vogelke@siscom.net) Received: from shell.siscom.net ([209.251.2.80]) by lamorack.siscom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1LfQhv-0004ku-Ok for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:26:43 -0500 Received: by shell.siscom.net (Postfix, from userid 2198) id 8F7B5115529; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:26:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil (Postfix, from userid 32768) id E0AB2B7C5; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:42:48 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19C0CCFC-CBD5-4822-8838-4F10C4792C23@mac.com> (message from Andrew Moran on Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:53 -0800) Organization: Oasis Systems Inc. X-Disclaimer: I don't speak for the USAF or Oasis. X-GPG-ID: 1024D/711752A0 2006-06-27 Karl Vogel X-GPG-Fingerprint: 56EB 6DBF 4224 C953 F417 CC99 4C7C 7D46 7117 52A0 Message-Id: <20090306014248.E0AB2B7C5@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:42:48 -0500 (EST) From: vogelke+software@pobox.com (Karl Vogel) Subject: Re: SpamAssassin/Perl eating enormous amounts of memory? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: vogelke+software@pobox.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:51:26 -0000 >> On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:21:53 -0800, >> Andrew Moran said: A> Thank you for your suggestion. I'll try compiling Perl and it's A> dependencies without using PERL_MALLOC. I've had similar memory problems using Hyperestraier to index collections exceeding 1,000,000 documents. The indexer would run without complaint under Solaris, but die periodically on FreeBSD with "out of memory" errors. Since I had around 6 Gb of RAM, I was pretty sure memory wasn't the problem, so I recompiled using a version of Doug Lea's malloc and the problem went away. The most recent malloc sources are here: ftp://gee.cs.oswego.edu/pub/misc/malloc-2.8.3.c ftp://gee.cs.oswego.edu/pub/misc/malloc-2.8.3.h Here's a Makefile suitable for building and installing the library with GCC. I'm sure the tabs have been mangled: CC = gcc CPLUS = g++ LIBS = libmalloc.a libcppmalloc.a DEST = /usr/local/lib INC = /usr/local/include all: $(LIBS) clean: rm -f $(LIBS) *.o cppmalloc.o: malloc.c $(CPLUS) -O -c -I. malloc.c -o cppmalloc.o install: $(LIBS) cp $(LIBS) $(DEST) cp -p malloc.h $(INC) ranlib $(DEST)/libcppmalloc.a ranlib $(DEST)/libmalloc.a libcppmalloc.a: cppmalloc.o rm -f libcppmalloc.a ar q libcppmalloc.a cppmalloc.o libmalloc.a: malloc.o rm -f libmalloc.a ar q libmalloc.a malloc.o malloc.o: malloc.c $(CC) -O -c -I. malloc.c To build something using configure and this library, change the configure commands to include these environment variables: LDFLAGS="-L/usr/local/lib -lmalloc" CPPFLAGS="-I/usr/local/include" -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company Why are they called apartments, when they're all stuck together? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 05:45:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B51106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from col0-omc4-s16.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc4-s16.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6208F8FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:45:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dhaneshkk@hotmail.com) Received: from COL106-W75 ([65.55.34.200]) by col0-omc4-s16.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 5 Mar 2009 21:45:43 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [203.129.255.180] From: dhaneshk k To: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:45:42 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2009 05:45:43.0469 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA296DD0:01C99E1E] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Any BSDians hands on with apache-2.2 webserver, X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:45:43 -0000 .htpasswd Failure .. htpasswd recreation also not working=20 I added a for restricting access to my web site URL = . I used Basic Authentication module.. I created #htpasswd -c .htpasswd test=20 password : test =20 =20 =20 and restarted apache . The path to AuthUserFile is absolutely the = system path no error in that .. but when I tried to access mysites URL it showing the Authenticat= ion Dialogue =2C I entered username : test=20 password : test =2C but its not loging in ..) I recreated the password many times with other user names and passwor= ds .. but still I can't login .. what may be the issue ? how can I fix the issue ? This is the setup .... [root@sun /usr/local/www/testblock]# ls -al total 6 drwxr-xr-x 2 www www 512 Mar 5 19:13 . drwxr-xr-x 11 root wheel 512 Mar 5 16:10 .. -rw-r-xr-x 1 www www 19 Mar 6 09:52 .htpasswd [root@sun /usr/local/www/testblock]# cat .htpasswd=20 test:Nkw3seTaTE16I [root@sun /usr/local/www/testblock]#=20 ServerName mysite.com AuthType Basic AuthName "Auth" AuthUserFile "/usr/local/www/testblock/. htpasswd" Require valid-user RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://127.0.0.1:8081/VirtualHostBase/http/mysite.com:80= /site1/VirtualHostRoot/$1 [L=2CP] ErrorLog /var/log/apache/site1/error_log CustomLog /var/log/apache/site2/access.log combined Any hints most welcome Thanks in advance=20 KK _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger. Multitasking at its finest. http://www.microsoft.com/india/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx= From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 05:57:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D128106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:57:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (exfesmq01.datapipe-corp.net [64.106.130.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C728B8FC16 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (192.168.128.24) by EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (64.106.130.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:47:43 -0500 Message-ID: <49B0B8F2.5000405@datapipe.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:47:30 -0600 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack L. References: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: scuba@centroin.com.br, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nerius Landys Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:57:54 -0000 DataPipe also provides (optional: managed) hosting as well. They are a bit pricey, but you get what you pay for. Jack L. wrote: > I provide that hosting and sharktech does as well. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: > >>> We=C2=B4re looking for good hosting services that offer instalat= ions of >>> FreeBSD in dedicated servers. >>> Any one could point some? >>> Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few with >>> FreeBSD. >>> The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just a si= mple >>> custom partition modification, cannot be done. >>> >> There is (believe it or not) a webpage on the freebsd.org website that >> lists some commercial businesses that offer colocation and/or >> dedicated servers: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html >> >> My server is colocated with m5hosting.com (halfway down on that page) >> in San Diego. I'm very happy with them. I'm running 5 video game >> servers for the free game Urban Terror on my server. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > This message may contain confidential or privileged information. If you ar= e not the intended recipient, please advise us immediately and delete this = message. See http://www.datapipe.com/emaildisclaimer.aspx for further info= rmation on confidentiality and the risks of non-secure electronic communica= tion. If you cannot access these links, please notify us by reply message a= nd we will send the contents to you. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 05:58:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319DD10656D5 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:58:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (exfesmq01.datapipe-corp.net [64.106.130.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0A78FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 05:58:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@datapipe.com) Received: from [10.5.21.122] (192.168.128.24) by EXFESMQ01.datapipe-corp.net (64.106.130.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.336.0; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:50:54 -0500 Message-ID: <49B0B9B2.8080609@datapipe.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:50:42 -0600 From: Paul Procacci User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jack L. References: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: scuba@centroin.com.br, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Nerius Landys Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:58:04 -0000 Jack L. wrote: > I provide that hosting and sharktech does as well. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: > >>> We=C2=B4re looking for good hosting services that offer instalat= ions of >>> FreeBSD in dedicated servers. >>> Any one could point some? >>> Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few with >>> FreeBSD. >>> The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just a si= mple >>> custom partition modification, cannot be done. >>> >> There is (believe it or not) a webpage on the freebsd.org website that >> lists some commercial businesses that offer colocation and/or >> dedicated servers: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html >> >> My server is colocated with m5hosting.com (halfway down on that page) >> in San Diego. I'm very happy with them. I'm running 5 video game >> servers for the free game Urban Terror on my server. >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.= org" >> >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.o= rg" > > Double post (sorry). 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 06:36:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30390106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:36:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D238FC18 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:36:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so729462gxk.19 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:36:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+dsJBhVdCsk6N8AFDF2n/MjysroD0Idk1d8sg+BmsjU=; b=pAe+pPyiDIaA+0Fvwh+rrXHKfzvuWeoS2k67jMcJAdjmWrUkD6sVFs0FmbWmlNBgT4 cyQRtUWapGQNwSA99oIUGYOsn3bdzmNBwqeUUAFU61VqNls7DsgtTxWTP77ulARlbdar I1JoPI/mUviRC6rrq+TAheG5mZTQp/FdKxTbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aLOPczvhUCRfJ3KePZyIks60adQ7XX+l0w07gf5mVyAduMxzeOBK+T9ODdSE9l2MvV nfn428VU76lNdcvI6AAI3pnRlucPYK9Z1/x37yYQiBnxBE4ygPzLhE5WBd8oNJfNfROq 0Zm92TsDYEvPjiy7WRJOx/kGEIMK9JbHOaMW0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.129 with SMTP id o1mr600830iba.47.1236321375348; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:36:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:36:15 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Vasadi I. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 06:37:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8401106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (progress.isafeelin.org [84.244.146.92]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890F98FC0A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:37:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frederique@isafeelin.org) Received: from progress.isafeelin.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E710130D2F; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:21:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl [85.145.154.3]) (using SSLv3 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by progress.isafeelin.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31827130D2E; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:21:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (unknown [192.168.1.15]) by s55919a03.adsl.wanadoo.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4339581C; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:22:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B0C0DD.80803@isafeelin.org> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:21:17 +0100 From: Frederique Rijsdijk User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mister.olli@googlemail.com References: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> In-Reply-To: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring geom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:37:22 -0000 Mister Olli wrote: > Hi hi... > > What is the best way to monitor geom software raids (gmirror & gvinum > raid5)??? > > The solution I'm searching for should be a kind of script which checks > the status, and drops me an email if something is wrong. > > I found a nagios plugin, but currently I'm unable to invest enough time > to get nagios up and running for the customer... > > Thanks a lot... > > greetz > Olli > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" I monitor some machines with geom mirrors via Nagios/SNMP. In nagios: -------------------------------------------------------------- define service{ use generic-service host_name host.name.com service_description gmirror check_command check_snmp!1!0!UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1 } On the machine in snmpd.conf (net-snmp): -------------------------------------------------------------- exec gmirror /usr/local/sbin/checkgmirror The script: -------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh mirrorstate=`/sbin/gmirror list | /usr/bin/grep ^State |\ /usr/bin/awk '{print $2}'` if [ $mirrorstate != "COMPLETE" ] then echo "1" else echo "0" fi Besides crafthing something of your own, there is also: /usr/ports/net-mgmt/nagios-geom This is a small Nagios plugin written in PERL and designed to monitor the state of FreeBSD GEOM devices (specifically mirrors and striped volumes) from Nagios. WWW: http://www.geocities.com/ntb4real/proj/geom.htm To use in Nagios: In checkcommands.cfg: -------------------------------------------------------------- define command{ command_name check_geom command_line $USER1$/check_geom $ARG1$ $ARG2$ } In your host.cfg: -------------------------------------------------------------- define service{ use local-service host_name host.name.conf service_description mirror check_command check_geom!mirror!gm0 } From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 07:29:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BE6106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f166.google.com (mail-ew0-f166.google.com [209.85.219.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1AC8FC1A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:29:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by ewy10 with SMTP id 10so131060ewy.43 for ; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:29:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received :x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=GBYHdPIFzcZXGKEW2S+tNVL0vJ7aWIpnToKlvHBWgB4=; b=r+L8ciM0MIP68XuOsZSe/vCLKGMVwFf7SnUL91M/+yT6ZRYTWhlvJoQEbzPTuRis6o 6FbTJZ/X/ExoZ1WogO21+L8fZhgO1EkYMn/6WHycDReH/S1DyYGY/6Fg/uKHaUwM/LJ7 MOGAA7CK4o3OF7yc3SkuACbcOmglXWMF7gmVY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=ODdCfI2U5mGtbPyRvM7BUPIlvAq98fd5bBiUhH0xLJVY19E/uBsL4DPSOtJ0cR8Abv WafklCJeenrAnDcNp2VL67zp4NbmK/gmzBDO+Xk6O8MLVL/0qasc8CYyPT39ZlMMAHJe RHlmG57P7/rszX3V69mcBbYAd82LO+rI8+knQ= Received: by 10.210.136.10 with SMTP id j10mr837819ebd.37.1236324570376; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org ([85.175.25.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm1326638eyg.37.2009.03.05.23.29.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org (darklight.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n267TQ3Q038437; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:29:27 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n267TQ2H038436; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:29:26 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.homeunix.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:29:25 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090306072925.GA38402@darklight.homeunix.org> References: <27757053.721236272524668.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> <12446074.821236274528605.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12446074.821236274528605.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's the best way to destroy a geom mirror? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:29:32 -0000 On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 09:35:31AM -0800, Peter Steele wrote: > > I've created a USB boot disk that is used to clone itself onto the systems hard drives, setting up mirrored file systems in the process. The main difficulty I'm having is reimaging a system with an existing OS whose drives are already configured in a mirror. I want of course to destroy the mirror and create a complete new one, but I can't find the right process to accomplish this reliably. I am doing the following: > > # Cycle through each /dev/adNN drive and clean it. This has to be > # done before the geom_mirror driver is loaded. > disks=(`ls /dev/ad* | grep -v "s" | sed -e "s|/dev/||" -e "s|ad||" | sort -g`) > for ((i = 0 ; i < ${#disks[@]} ; i++)); do > disk=ad${disks[i]} > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/${disk} bs=512 count=79 > done > > # Partition the drives as needed > ... > > # Create the mirror, starting with the first drive in the list > gmdisk=ad${disks[0]} > gmirror load > gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0 ${gmdisk}s1 > > This is where the problem occurs. If there was already a mirrored file system previously active on the system being reimaged, the label operation complains that it can't store the metadata on the indicated drive: > > gmirror: Can't store metadata on ad4s1: Operation not permitted. > > If I make sure the existing mirrors are torn down first by iterating through the drives and doing a "remove" operation, this can solve the problem, but in some cases the mirror is in a suspect state and I've seen the "gmirror load" command hang idefiinitely. So I don't want to do a load command before I destroy the old mirrors, but I can't seem to find a way to reliably destroy the old mirrors. Can anyone suggest a way to do this? Have you tried using 'clear' keyword? HTH, Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 08:37:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93629106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mx1.esiee.fr (mx1.esiee.fr [147.215.1.35]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5730F8FC1A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:37:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from f.bonnet@esiee.fr) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (mail.esiee.fr [147.215.1.3]) by mx1.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A0A136876 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.esiee.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VAMS.dummy (Postfix) with SMTP id 8110A3AF79 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:37:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from lisa.esiee.fr (lisa.esiee.fr [147.215.1.21]) by mail.esiee.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FDA3AF79 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:37:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B0E0E1.8090801@esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:37:53 +0100 From: Frank Bonnet User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081003) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: FreeBSD + Samba + OpenLDAP + iSCSI +Netapp , anyone ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:37:54 -0000 Hello All is in the subject :-) Does anyone has setup such server configuration A server running FreeBSD and supporting Samba server software with OpenLDAP backend and using iSCSI as disk access protocol to a Netapp filer for Samba volumes ? I plan this so passed experiences are welcome ! Thanks a lot From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 09:03:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681A51065674 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:03:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5BB98FC1A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:03:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so248849bwz.43 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:03:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kvG8KfybCNUpfu6oaWorg6OT3K5haDXOE1SLQg8DPOA=; b=XG6tL3sV4f70YTkhzSVtldTQKznbyRcSfXxvHJSCcLn+BYyzqQiQ9H0IOAf0nFfWK9 obsw4HBxA8rX6LMmy8RzXlTbVpezroeb14E+1buN4IBvdqIUP/weOKIs2x408EWBCnyJ 0dJWl69gVIs3bJylB8Bku9IS7pCMM7fTdcWng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=agbYubLXp7g70DdJgSxjW5jxK6TMRUG/gVKaLKG/NvY4c5l26zpL5OtQ+gD3D7EUgq OmC+ThNLvVECCtarcAF1FnYBOhCCeOrNZzLLHL/E+uGw+tJ/qWCn+XKB/uBJ0GNeMP2s +AXF/zh1/kGzmSvU+vnkujMcfyZArNoQIKW6M= Received: by 10.223.127.8 with SMTP id e8mr1776118fas.80.1236330231196; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?80.187.238.77? ([80.187.238.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 31sm1378278fkt.2.2009.03.06.01.03.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:03:50 -0800 (PST) From: Mister Olli To: Carl Chave In-Reply-To: References: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:02:42 +0100 Message-Id: <1236330162.4395.3.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring geom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mister.olli@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:03:53 -0000 Hi Carl, Thanks a lot for that tip. When I had a look a periodic.conf(8) there are quite some more options for monitoring raid/ geom devices... unfortunately there's no option for monitoring raid5 vinum devices... greetz olli Am Donnerstag, den 05.03.2009, 20:53 -0500 schrieb Carl Chave: > From Michael Lucas' Absolute FreeBSD book page 550: > > FreeBSD can include a status check of your mirrored disks in its daily > periodic(8) run. Just add the line daily_status_gmirror_enable="YES" > to > /etc/periodic.conf. > > Not sure about other raid types beyond mirrors. > > On 3/5/09, Mister Olli wrote: > Hi hi... > > What is the best way to monitor geom software raids (gmirror & > gvinum > raid5)??? > > The solution I'm searching for should be a kind of script > which checks > the status, and drops me an email if something is wrong. > > I found a nagios plugin, but currently I'm unable to invest > enough time > to get nagios up and running for the customer... > > Thanks a lot... > > greetz > Olli > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 09:07:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC821065678 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:07:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9868FC25 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:07:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mister.olli@googlemail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so249931bwz.43 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:07:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:reply-to:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YWh5uqTrfVvMAJzn0pziRt+1beYQUEPpyynJnjaHSZ8=; b=K2Ug2FtxiLnEFR7oGDyQPS6HGElwVwVA49n/wXUaR51I6wgk1ctZlYw2NNS3AfgNvy OFhM6xEAgC4wZLsFGE1pNS4UkcXKJ/Si947HjrM+9bMmH4E8y8dTEyl6DX5yKaO2fwnd q5n6xPFmQbKvpXHFQImcjHmEwSQAXvIZW71R4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:reply-to:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type :date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=OkKduOidB2GZkkU+nirhVAH6Lq+MrDirttjsK0zOWWQLynlHov4x0jWOmTyk4kbW31 RtDV6thGS7xuZUeGXHAbjMe12Qg0VgZW484CPWITfrf3alYnJh/rDNmLz6n0LP96TArh qfRtwcmOWgkdKexaNXbzcGPkTeK5k3TXXU3BM= Received: by 10.103.11.7 with SMTP id o7mr938549mui.103.1236330429076; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:07:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?80.187.238.77? ([80.187.238.77]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm1275157muh.52.2009.03.06.01.07.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:07:08 -0800 (PST) From: Mister Olli To: Frederique Rijsdijk In-Reply-To: <49B0C0DD.80803@isafeelin.org> References: <1236275168.16526.73.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> <49B0C0DD.80803@isafeelin.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:05:59 +0100 Message-Id: <1236330359.4395.7.camel@phoenix.blechhirn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Monitoring geom X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: mister.olli@googlemail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:07:12 -0000 Hi, thanks for the tip, but somehow nagios is completly overdosed for the customer I'm installing this thing for... Seems like there's no way than coding it myself... greetz olli Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 07:21 +0100 schrieb Frederique Rijsdijk: > Mister Olli wrote: > > Hi hi... > > > > What is the best way to monitor geom software raids (gmirror & gvinum > > raid5)??? > > > > The solution I'm searching for should be a kind of script which checks > > the status, and drops me an email if something is wrong. > > > > I found a nagios plugin, but currently I'm unable to invest enough time > > to get nagios up and running for the customer... > > > > Thanks a lot... > > > > greetz > > Olli > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > I monitor some machines with geom mirrors via Nagios/SNMP. > > In nagios: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > define service{ > use generic-service > host_name host.name.com > service_description gmirror > check_command check_snmp!1!0!UCD-SNMP-MIB::extOutput.1 > } > > > On the machine in snmpd.conf (net-snmp): > -------------------------------------------------------------- > exec gmirror /usr/local/sbin/checkgmirror > > > The script: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > #!/bin/sh > > mirrorstate=`/sbin/gmirror list | /usr/bin/grep ^State |\ > /usr/bin/awk '{print $2}'` > > if [ $mirrorstate != "COMPLETE" ] > then > echo "1" > else > echo "0" > fi > > > Besides crafthing something of your own, there is also: > /usr/ports/net-mgmt/nagios-geom > > This is a small Nagios plugin written in PERL and designed to monitor > the state of FreeBSD GEOM devices (specifically mirrors and striped > volumes) from Nagios. > > WWW: http://www.geocities.com/ntb4real/proj/geom.htm > > > To use in Nagios: > > In checkcommands.cfg: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > define command{ > command_name check_geom > command_line $USER1$/check_geom $ARG1$ $ARG2$ > } > > > In your host.cfg: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > define service{ > use local-service > host_name host.name.conf > service_description mirror > check_command check_geom!mirror!gm0 > } > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 09:58:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48433106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:58:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murthyvc.83@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.172]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F67A8FC1C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:58:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murthyvc.83@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 27so409795wfd.7 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:58:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=9vkIkeJja7rNxuAe9u8azwrTzYBubsrTpwjAdmUZaAs=; b=N88mG6Qs9fFK8DAZfHu06daGam0nycPiXvI6h3f7upajl4AFyDsCV3CmoB2c83TEef wc441y3fz/Sq5f/rc99TRAqs7xzSx4o00VC/MP3JRJpP+lF5N9cubKif4Nmf5JgHCiTq mwpRyufu6vLOA9eDHr9JIA3P+1n/6OJBOh9dg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=N6ptYdUIXNXKkDzq1yq2rTSkFs/GCpKcgMX5PywJm2QsjlPGwQLB9JUEDmvvSkDIBK dbP5raSqKsYkemdsvkbqcU0hg3igDKlZ+OPlJsWtWTVxaVbkNlfq8KsW/lIgIUkggTdC VX8Jr9W63h1WV6jSUYOdjzJjcz5OeJkkHHkwE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.191.5 with SMTP id o5mr1017382wff.53.1236331856796; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:30:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:00:56 +0530 Message-ID: From: Rudra murthy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 Install error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:58:17 -0000 Hi all, I am new to this chain. I have a problem while installing the FreeBSD 7.1 release on the Pentium-4 machine. While installing, the installation hangs in "*md0: Preloaded image *". I have searched in the net. I didn't get any usefull information. Please give some suggestion., Thanks in advance. Rudramurthy From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 10:41:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17C81065670 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.220.252]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4397A8FC17 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:41:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from anubis.getmyip.com (anubis.getmyip.com [78.46.33.178]) by mail.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C0A700D496 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:20:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from 62.206.221.107 (SquirrelMail authenticated user smellmann) by anubis.getmyip.com with HTTP; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:20:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4594.62.206.221.107.1236334837.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:20:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Sebastian Mellmann" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: ipfw: Can't see other flows in pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: sebastian.mellmann@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:41:50 -0000 Hi everyone! I've got the following ipfw rules: cmd="ipfw" webclient_upload_bandwidth="1024kbit/s" webclient_download_bandwidth="6144Kbit/s" bottleneck_bandwidth="100Mbit/s" client_rtt_delay=10 queue=50 client1_subnet="192.168.5.0/26" server1_subnet="192.168.7.0/24" $cmd pipe 100 config mask all bw $webclient_upload_bandwidth queue queue_size delay $client_rtt_delay $cmd pipe 200 config mask all bw $webclient_download_bandwidth queue queue_size delay $client_rtt_delay $cmd add pipe 100 all from $client1_subnet to $server1_subnet in recv $in_if $cmd add pipe 200 all from $server1_subnet to $client1_subnet out xmit $in_if $cmd pipe 500 config bw $bottleneck_bandwidth $cmd add pipe 500 all from any to any via $in_if $cmd pipe 510 config bw $bottleneck_bandwidth $cmd add pipe 510 all from any to any via $out_if For testing purposes I've got 4 concurrent downloads via scp from the server1_subnet to the client1_subnet. ipfw pipe show gives me the following: 00510: 100.000 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 0 tcp 192.168.5.4/47753 192.168.7.1/22 610244 609078476 2 104 1 00100: 1.024 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 4 queues (64 buckets) droptail mask: 0xff 0xffffffff/0xffff -> 0xffffffff/0xffff BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 18 tcp 192.168.5.4/47753 192.168.7.1/22 15067 820472 0 0 0 29 tcp 192.168.5.1/59724 192.168.7.1/22 64519 3512539 0 0 0 34 tcp 192.168.5.2/58805 192.168.7.1/22 64035 3481423 0 0 0 54 tcp 192.168.5.3/40995 192.168.7.1/22 66705 3633640 0 0 0 00305: unlimited 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) droptail 00310: unlimited 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) droptail 00200: 6.144 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 4 queues (64 buckets) droptail mask: 0xff 0xffffffff/0xffff -> 0xffffffff/0xffff BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 2 tcp 192.168.7.1/22 192.168.5.2/58805 121901 182399179 29 43124 234 47 tcp 192.168.7.1/22 192.168.5.3/40995 126392 189093880 43 64124 241 51 tcp 192.168.7.1/22 192.168.5.1/59724 122550 183349839 34 50624 251 60 tcp 192.168.7.1/22 192.168.5.4/47753 28565 42735852 0 0 55 00315: unlimited 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) droptail 00500: 100.000 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes Pkt/Byte Drp 0 tcp 192.168.5.4/47753 192.168.7.1/22 609337 607754332 2 1552 0 00300: unlimited 0 ms 50 sl. 0 queues (1 buckets) droptail Why do I only see ONE connection inside the 500/510 pipe? I thought I could see any connection going through that pipe. Regards, Sebastian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 11:12:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251291065670 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: from web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.151]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE4678FC19 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:12:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from laszlo_danielisz@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 45397 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2009 10:45:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236336326; bh=9X6+Dq/dYEDFR8ZTvz5addEJe9wV2skVtibYjKxgiGw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Mc0UYB8Xv8rbNAekeKFfMYvgaz9JXqGA7EDfQLRCKgvaqbjyGKZnRZUztMuVGq408CoR5xz1i8a7eRep9PMnXgE060kvkFx/XHLdPIonvlggSUH/2NFZD7MpX0lvmswp5Ja0XwFmX8jpPznGBGsQcckxss7+S+A1950xmIU0LoY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LUzryc1Tc8UESPR5qOcFSjgTB1xpngXishnRSsD1+Uh5+XyXfpCHSn/Xovg+8PaptaiRTIgXpHNL88CPyZ3E2mTqAzHi4yPph5T2zUH+5+SKjUs/bmuWHVrdQtN5nZxAJ0oKgzf6jYwiTAzLuw4YNiHs52l2OP5DYzdiyfmKVbo=; Message-ID: <236659.45033.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: S41X49MVM1mxmSTYuKsDpwXerG3JyMcrzhfyjXw2itXN3unz8UTj6Eu8YW2xuEccWAoGnGC1oh4LpdKz318q2ifYCaQwZLiwCJ8PH78Ugpm6A3urmMcppfbDoqgIpKrP0ebxBceawFzWV5HxogSzqxnArohsBJL6sEYl6hAHxJSY44kSSBDnLdi01VARyhhF1Hj.cPAXyF4ljSbppqFiAMmQvObE Received: from [213.157.180.252] by web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:45:25 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 02:45:25 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Install error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:12:09 -0000 Did you tried to disable ACPI?=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: Rudra murthy =0ATo: freebsd-questions@freeb= sd.org=0ASent: Friday, March 6, 2009 10:30:56 AM=0ASubject: FreeBSD 7.1 Ins= tall error.=0A=0AHi all,=0A=0AI am new to this chain. I have a problem whil= e installing the FreeBSD 7.1=0Arelease on the Pentium-4 machine.=0A=0AWhile= installing, the installation hangs in "*md0: Preloaded image=0A*". I have searched in the net. I didn't get any usefull=0Ainformation.= =0A=0APlease give some suggestion.,=0A=0AThanks in advance.=0ARudramurthy= =0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd-questions@free= bsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-qu= estions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@f= reebsd.org"=0A=0A=0A=0A From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 12:15:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC321065679 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjk32@cam.ac.uk) Received: from ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.136]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675D68FC1E for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:15:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjk32@cam.ac.uk) X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from nat0.cjkey.org.uk ([88.97.163.219]:1090 helo=[192.168.2.58]) by ppsw-6.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.156]:465) with esmtpsa (PLAIN:cjk32) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) id 1LfYxw-0002wW-K3 (Exim 4.70) (return-path ); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:15:48 +0000 Message-ID: <49B113F3.3050406@cam.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:15:47 +0000 From: Christopher Key User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Graeme Dargie References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> <49B01261.5010200@efinley.com> <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295652@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> In-Reply-To: <01FB8F39BAD0BD49A6D0DA8F789739295652@Mercury.galaxy.lan.lcl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:15:53 -0000 Graeme Dargie wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Elliot Finley [mailto:efinleywork@efinley.com] > Why not just upgrade to 7-Stable and then use these: > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815121009 > > they cost less than port multipliers. They don't do RAID, but then if > you're on 7-Stable, you can use ZFS zraid. > > > > In then end I trumped for a new motherboard with 6 sata ports on it and > it is running 6 x 500gb drives in a ZFS array just perfectly. > > Regards > > Graeme > > Thanks all, I probably should have given a little more background. My current setup involves a 6xSATA port motherboard, with 5 media storage drives in a http://www.icydock.com/product/mb455spf.html. 2x500Gb gmirrored for music, photos and homedirs; 3x1Gb with indepdent filesystems overlayed using symlinks for dvds. There isn't really any space in left in the case for many external drives, and certainly not to make them externally available, hence I was looking at external storage solutions. There's one PCIe x16 port,and one PCIe x1 port, and I don't think that an additional 8 drives will prove sufficient in the long term, hence the use of port multipliers quite appealed, giving me a potential total of 20 drives. I would probably go for something like, http://www.starmount.co.uk/productversion/591.html, with 4x the aforementioned devices installed, and unless I'm missing something, the port multipliers themselves seem quite cheap: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/Lycom-ST-126RM-SATA-II-3Gbps-1-To-5-Port-Multiplier-bridge-board-(for-Rack-Mount). I was always intending to use software raid, although I've yet to decide over ZFS, or multiple graid5s (groups of 5 disks) gconcated together as I buy additional sets of disks. If sufficiently stable, ZFS does quite appeal. Regards, Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 12:22:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84D6D106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:22:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from mail.olivent.com (mail.olivent.com [69.31.85.206]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D17A8FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:22:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mikel.king@olivent.com) Received: from [172.16.1.8] ([68.195.158.255]) (authenticated user mikel@olivent.com) by mail.olivent.com (Kerio MailServer 6.6.2) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)); Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:52:26 -0500 References: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: <7AA2D72B-77C1-4939-87E2-D924E48A4968@olivent.com> From: Mikel King To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 06:50:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: scuba@centroin.com.br, Nerius Landys Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:22:41 -0000 On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Jack L. wrote: > I provide that hosting and sharktech does as well. > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Nerius Landys =20 > wrote: >>> We=B4re looking for good hosting services that offer =20 >>> instalations of >>> FreeBSD in dedicated servers. >>> Any one could point some? >>> Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few =20= >>> with >>> FreeBSD. >>> The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just =20= >>> a simple >>> custom partition modification, cannot be done. >> >> There is (believe it or not) a webpage on the freebsd.org website =20 >> that >> lists some commercial businesses that offer colocation and/or >> dedicated servers: >> >> http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html >> >> My server is colocated with m5hosting.com (halfway down on that page) >> in San Diego. I'm very happy with them. I'm running 5 video game >> servers for the free game Urban Terror on my server. >> I missed the original post and since it's been snip I am not sure who =20= started the thread. In any event if a VPS or JAIL will meet your needs I know of some =20 options here in NY. Physical servers are also available but not likely =20= at a super low price point. Feel free to contact me off list and I'll see if I can point you in =20 those directions.... Regard, Mikel King From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 13:00:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B1A1065670 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjk32@cam.ac.uk) Received: from ppsw-7.csi.cam.ac.uk (ppsw-7.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.137]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3C88FC17 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:00:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cjk32@cam.ac.uk) X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-SpamDetails: not scanned X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ Received: from nat1.cjkey.org.uk ([88.97.163.220]:6782 helo=[192.168.2.58]) by ppsw-7.csi.cam.ac.uk (smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.157]:465) with esmtpsa (PLAIN:cjk32) (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) id 1LfZOq-0003hj-No (Exim 4.70) (return-path ); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:43:36 +0000 Message-ID: <49B11A77.2040801@cam.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:43:35 +0000 From: Christopher Key User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daan Vreeken References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> <200903060103.16752.Daan@vehosting.nl> In-Reply-To: <200903060103.16752.Daan@vehosting.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:00:18 -0000 Daan Vreeken wrote: > Hi Christopher, > > On Thursday 05 March 2009 15:25:35 Christopher Key wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking to substantially expand the storage on my FreeBSD 6.3 home >> media server. With regards hardware, the simplest way to attach large >> numbers of drives seem to be to use SATA port multipliers, but I've been >> unable to find any consensus on their level of support in FreeBSD. I'm >> currently looking at a RocketRAID 2314 and SiI3726 based port >> multipliers. Has any had any experience with this combination? >> > > The Sil3726 works very well if you run a recent enough version of FreeBSD. We > use the device in a custom storage appliance. I don't know the RocketRAID > 2314 though. You need a SATA 2.0 controller for Port Multipliers to work. > > I'm pretty sure the RocketRAID 2314 is a SATA 2.0 controller. I've references in places to it supporting port multipliers, but have been unable to to find any further details on quite what this means. To be honest, I don't fully understand how the ATA system fits together. HighPoint offer a FreeBSD driver, but I don't know whether this replaces functionality within FreeBSD, or is an additional requirement. Nor do I know whether port multiplier support is the responsibility of the ATA driver, the ATA controller, both or either, nor whether the ATA controller being a RAID card in JBOD mode affects anything. I was thinking that for the RR2314 to work with port multipliers whilst it was doing hardware RAID, it must fully understand how to address drives behind a port multiplier and might do the same in JBOD mode, simply presenting the ATA driver with a list of drives. Whether this is valid reasoning, I've no idea. > FreeBSD has (experimental) support for Port Multipliers since the following > commit : > > On Thursday 10 April 2008 15:05:05 Søren Schmidt wrote: > >> sos 2008-04-10 13:05:05 UTC >> >> FreeBSD src repository >> > ... > >> Log: >> Add experimental support for SATA Port Multipliers >> >> Support is working on the Silicon Image SiI3124/3132. >> Support is working on some AHCI chips but far from all. >> >> Remember this is WIP, so test reports and (constructive) suggestions are >> welcome! >> Thanks, I've found the relevent revision in SVN, http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revision&revision=178067 I'll read through the diffs to see if I can get a better idea of how everything works. Kind Regards, Christopher Key From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 13:10:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEB1106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:10:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Daan@vehosting.nl) Received: from VM01.VEHosting.nl (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:1f14:32d::1:140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE4C8FC0A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Daan@vehosting.nl) Received: from [192.168.72.10] (124-54.bbned.dsl.internl.net [92.254.54.124]) (authenticated bits=0) by VM01.VEHosting.nl (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n26DAqtt001960; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:10:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Daan@vehosting.nl) From: Daan Vreeken Organization: VEHosting.nl - Vitsch Electronics Hosting To: Christopher Key Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:10:34 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <49AFE0DF.9000003@cam.ac.uk> <200903060103.16752.Daan@vehosting.nl> <49B11A77.2040801@cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <49B11A77.2040801@cam.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200903061410.35051.Daan@vehosting.nl> x-ve-auth-version: mi-1.0.3 2008-05-30 - Copyright (c) 2008 - Daan Vreeken - VEHosting x-ve-auth: authenticated as 'pa4dan' on VM01.VEHosting.nl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SATA Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (6.3) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:10:54 -0000 On Friday 06 March 2009 13:43:35 Christopher Key wrote: > Daan Vreeken wrote: > > Hi Christopher, > > > > On Thursday 05 March 2009 15:25:35 Christopher Key wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm looking to substantially expand the storage on my FreeBSD 6.3 home > >> media server. With regards hardware, the simplest way to attach large > >> numbers of drives seem to be to use SATA port multipliers, but I've be= en > >> unable to find any consensus on their level of support in FreeBSD. I'm > >> currently looking at a RocketRAID 2314 and SiI3726 based port > >> multipliers. Has any had any experience with this combination? > > > > The Sil3726 works very well if you run a recent enough version of > > FreeBSD. We use the device in a custom storage appliance. I don't know > > the RocketRAID 2314 though. You need a SATA 2.0 controller for Port > > Multipliers to work. > > I'm pretty sure the RocketRAID 2314 is a SATA 2.0 controller. I've > references in places to it supporting port multipliers, but have been > unable to to find any further details on quite what this means. To be > honest, I don't fully understand how the ATA system fits together. > HighPoint offer a FreeBSD driver, but I don't know whether this replaces > functionality within FreeBSD, or is an additional requirement. Nor do I > know whether port multiplier support is the responsibility of the ATA > driver, the ATA controller, both or either, nor whether the ATA > controller being a RAID card in JBOD mode affects anything. I was > thinking that for the RR2314 to work with port multipliers whilst it was > doing hardware RAID, it must fully understand how to address drives > behind a port multiplier and might do the same in JBOD mode, simply > presenting the ATA driver with a list of drives. Whether this is valid > reasoning, I've no idea. If the RR2314 controller really does RAID in hardware, then the OS would on= ly=20 see the resulting big 'disks', without needing to know where they came from= =20 and if they are behind Port Multipliers or not. I suspect (but I'm not sure here) that RAID on the RR2314 is implemented by= =20 the driver instead of the hardware. In that case, the OS (or at least the vendor's own driver) needs to know ho= w=20 to handle Port Multipliers. The current state of Port Multipliers in FreeBSD (at least, in the version= =20 we're using on our appliance here) is that it is working very well, but lac= ks=20 some features. Hot-plugging disks for example doesn't work. All disks need = to=20 be present when the system is power up. For us this isn't a problem. > > FreeBSD has (experimental) support for Port Multipliers since the > > following commit : =2E.. > > On Thursday 10 April 2008 15:05:05 S=F8ren Schmidt wrote: > >> sos 2008-04-10 13:05:05 UTC > > Thanks, I've found the relevent revision in SVN, > http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D178067 > > I'll read through the diffs to see if I can get a better idea of how > everything works. I you would like to know more about the technical details, I would recommen= d=20 reading the 'Port Multiplier' part of the SATA 2 spec, which can be found=20 here : http://cvs.codeyard.net/svn/SiI24/doc/pm_1_1_Gold.pdf Or you could read this summary on sata-io.org : http://www.sata-io.org/portmultiplier.asp Regards, =2D-=20 Daan Vreeken VEHosting http://VEHosting.nl tel: +31-(0)40-7113050 / +31-(0)6-46210825 KvK nr: 17174380 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 13:27:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BFE1065677; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:27:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DEC8FC12; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:27:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n26DRVlc089666; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:27:32 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:27:31 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Sebastian Mellmann In-Reply-To: <5431.62.206.221.107.1236336345.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> Message-ID: <20090306234700.F71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <5431.62.206.221.107.1236336345.squirrel@anubis.getmyip.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw: Can't see other flows in pipe X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:27:36 -0000 On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Sebastian Mellmann wrote: [.. after merciless snippage ..] > $cmd pipe 500 config bw $bottleneck_bandwidth > $cmd add pipe 500 all from any to any via $in_if > > $cmd pipe 510 config bw $bottleneck_bandwidth > $cmd add pipe 510 all from any to any via $out_if > ipfw pipe show gives me the following: > > 00510: 100.000 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 > BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes > Pkt/Byte Drp > 0 tcp 192.168.5.4/47753 192.168.7.1/22 610244 609078476 2 > 104 1 > 00500: 100.000 Mbit/s 0 ms 50 sl. 1 queues (1 buckets) droptail > mask: 0x00 0x00000000/0x0000 -> 0x00000000/0x0000 > BKT Prot ___Source IP/port____ ____Dest. IP/port____ Tot_pkt/bytes > Pkt/Byte Drp > 0 tcp 192.168.5.4/47753 192.168.7.1/22 609337 607754332 2 > 1552 0 > Why do I only see ONE connection inside the 500/510 pipe? > I thought I could see any connection going through that pipe. With no masking specified, all flows use the same bucket (0) so totals shown are of all packets through that pipe. src/dest addr/ports shown are those of the first packet using that bucket, not the most recent. You may also find http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ip_dummynet/ helpful. cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 14:58:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52547106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1161F8FC1A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:58:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB2C29AC7 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:58:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.2 (20081215) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 8t9ynzrRz8c5 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:58:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.25] (tc.realitism.com [82.66.245.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: grego03) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D177429AB7 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:58:33 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: bsd To: Liste FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:58:33 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Subject: Login local2 to a log file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:58:35 -0000 Hello, How can I log messages sent to local2 to a given log file ? Which file do I have to update in order to achieve that? Thanks for your support. =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 15:04:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811961065674 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:04:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be [143.129.75.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007358FC16 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:04:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Pieter.Donche@ua.ac.be) Received: from hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n26F4Bc8015622 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:04:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (pdon@localhost) by hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id n26F4Bih015619 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:04:11 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be: pdon owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:04:11 +0100 (CET) From: Pieter Donche X-X-Sender: pdon@hmacs.cmi.ua.ac.be To: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD and UPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Pieter Donche List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:04:14 -0000 The vendor of our new server, tells me that an APC Smart-UPS 2200VA or APC Smart-UPS 3000VA does not have software for automatic shutdown when power is lost, which is compatible with FreeBSD, it is only compatible with Windows and Linux. Is this true? Has someone experience with that? From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 15:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33831065679 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8404F8FC1D for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:10:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from vanquish.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3879AEBC0A; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:10:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:10:16 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: Pieter Donche Message-Id: <20090306101016.8a5971d3.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:10:20 -0000 In response to Pieter Donche : > The vendor of our new server, tells me that an APC Smart-UPS 2200VA > or APC Smart-UPS 3000VA does not have software for automatic shutdown when > power is lost, which is compatible with FreeBSD, it is only compatible > with Windows and Linux. > > Is this true? Has someone experience with that? It's probably true. However, just because APC doesn't supply software officially supported by FreeBSD, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I've had good success with ports/sysutils/apcupsd/ -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/ From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 15:10:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D261065680 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from newmail.rmm.fr (newmail.rmm.fr [87.98.206.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A558FC1F for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:10:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd@todoo.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A5C29ACD; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:10:45 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.6.2 (20081215) at rmm.fr Received: from newmail.rmm.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (newmail.rmm.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 22SXdZxrHiSL; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:10:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.25] (tc.realitism.com [82.66.245.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: grego03) by newmail.rmm.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8155E29AB7; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:10:45 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: From: bsd To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:10:44 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:10:47 -0000 Yes ! There is a very good soft called apcupsd. I am working in Angola and have had a lot of problems with =20 electricity // until I have discovered this soft. It works perfectly with the apc network card (It came as an option on =20= my APC 1500). I have setup apcupsd to use snmp (this seems to be the most stable use). I was very surprised because the soft did shutdown the server =20 automatically when the UPS went out of battery=85 and I had not tested =20= that (lack of time). So the soft even went beyond my expectations=85 Port: apcupsd-3.14.5 Path: /usr/ports/sysutils/apcupsd Info: Set of programs for controlling APC UPS Maint: itetcu@FreeBSD.org B-deps: gettext-0.17_1 gmake-3.81_3 libiconv-1.11_1 net-snmp-5.4.2.1_2 =20= perl-5.8.9_2 R-deps: net-snmp-5.4.2.1_2 perl-5.8.9_2 WWW: http://www.apcupsd.com Le 6 mars 09 =E0 16:04, Pieter Donche a =E9crit : > The vendor of our new server, tells me that an APC Smart-UPS 2200VA > or APC Smart-UPS 3000VA does not have software for automatic =20 > shutdown when power is lost, which is compatible with FreeBSD, it is =20= > only compatible with Windows and Linux. > > Is this true? Has someone experience with that? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org=20 > " =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Gregober ---> PGP ID --> 0x1BA3C2FD bsd @at@ todoo.biz =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF P "Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing =20 this e-mail" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 15:59:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D19B106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from email1.allantgroup.com (email1.emsphone.com [199.67.51.115]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EAC8FC19 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:59:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by email1.allantgroup.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id n26Fwxaa026041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:58:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (smmsp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26FwxC9057073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:58:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n26FwweH057072; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:58:58 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:58:57 -0600 From: Dan Nelson To: bsd Message-ID: <20090306155857.GB3398@dan.emsphone.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 7.1-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.1, clamav-milter version 0.94.1 on email1.allantgroup.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (email1.allantgroup.com [199.67.51.78]); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 09:58:59 -0600 (CST) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.45 Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: Login local2 to a log file X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:59:02 -0000 In the last episode (Mar 06), bsd said: > How can I log messages sent to local2 to a given log file ? Which file do > I have to update in order to achieve that? /etc/syslog.conf local2.* /var/log/local2 See the syslog.conf manpage for more options -- Dan Nelson dnelson@allantgroup.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 16:35:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681A210656D6 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:35:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962678FC1F for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26GZALH081098; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:35:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n26GZ9SV081095; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:35:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:35:09 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Pieter Donche In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "mail.list freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:35:20 -0000 install apcupsd from ports On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Pieter Donche wrote: > The vendor of our new server, tells me that an APC Smart-UPS 2200VA > or APC Smart-UPS 3000VA does not have software for automatic shutdown when > power is lost, which is compatible with FreeBSD, it is only compatible with > Windows and Linux. > > Is this true? Has someone experience with that? > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 16:36:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE16F10656C2 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:36:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17818FC12 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:36:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26GaHuq081109; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:36:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n26GaHFu081106; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:36:17 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:36:17 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: bsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Pieter Donche , Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: FreeBSD and UPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:36:25 -0000 > > I am working in Angola and have had a lot of problems with electricity // > until I have discovered this soft. > It works perfectly with the apc network card (It came as an option on my APC > 1500). > > I have setup apcupsd to use snmp (this seems to be the most stable use). > > > I was very surprised because the soft did shutdown the server automatically > when the UPS went out of battery? and I had not tested that (lack of time). > So the soft even went beyond my expectations? > it is important too to make sure BIOS settings are set to automatically power up computer when power is present. by default it will not until you press a button From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 18:15:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BFB61065672 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdpete@thechristies.net) Received: from mail.thechristies.net (mail.thechristies.net [96.57.218.205]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57FF8FC18 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsdpete@thechristies.net) Received: from int.thechristies.net (corsair.thechristies.net [10.0.2.2]) by mail.thechristies.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26HkcOL081699 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:46:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bsdpete@thechristies.net) Message-ID: <49B1617D.2040901@thechristies.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:46:37 -0500 From: bsdpete User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (X11/20081220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Serial port config.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: bsdpete@thechristies.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:15:14 -0000 trying to get FreeBSD 7.1R to recognize a 2 port serial pci card.. have added device puc and options COM_MULTIPORT to the kernel.. have tried various settings in device.hints.. the mainboard has sio0.. dmesg says.. Copyright (c) 1992-2009 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE #2: Thu Mar 5 20:25:15 EST 2009 root@int.thechristies.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/INT Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2992.71-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf34 Stepping = 4 Features=0xbfebfbff Features2=0x441d Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1333198848 (1271 MB) avail memory = 1291911168 (1232 MB) ACPI APIC Table: FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2 ioapic0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) acpi0: on motherboard acpi0: [ITHREAD] acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a0000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 100000, f00000 (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 1000000, 4e770000 (3) failed Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0 acpi_button0: on acpi0 pcib0: port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: on pcib0 vgapci0: port 0xed98-0xed9f mem 0xe8000000-0xefffffff,0xfeb80000-0xfebfffff irq 16 at device 2.0 on pci0 agp0: on vgapci0 agp0: detected 8060k stolen memory agp0: aperture size is 128M uhci0: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0 uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci0: [ITHREAD] usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: on usb0 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xff60-0xff7f irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0 uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci1: [ITHREAD] usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: on usb1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2: port 0xff40-0xff5f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0 uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci2: [ITHREAD] usb2: on uhci2 usb2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2: on usb2 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3: port 0xff20-0xff3f irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0 uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED] uhci3: [ITHREAD] usb3: on uhci3 usb3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3: on usb3 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0: mem 0xffa80800-0xffa80bff irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0 ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ehci0: [ITHREAD] usb4: EHCI version 1.0 usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3 usb4: on ehci0 usb4: USB revision 2.0 uhub4: on usb4 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered pcib1: at device 30.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at device 7.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 9.0 (no driver attached) pci1: at device 10.0 (no driver attached) em0: port 0xdf40-0xdf7f mem 0xfeae0000-0xfeafffff irq 18 at device 12.0 on pci1 em0: [FILTER] em0: Ethernet address: 00:0d:56:d7:97:28 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xffa0-0xffaf mem 0xfeb7fc00-0xfeb7ffff irq 18 at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: on atapci0 ata0: [ITHREAD] ata1: on atapci0 ata1: [ITHREAD] atapci1: port 0xfe00-0xfe07,0xfe10-0xfe13,0xfe20-0xfe27,0xfe30-0xfe33,0xfea0-0xfeaf irq 18 at device 31.2 on pci0 atapci1: [ITHREAD] ata2: on atapci1 ata2: [ITHREAD] ata3: on atapci1 ata3: [ITHREAD] pci0: at device 31.3 (no driver attached) pci0: at device 31.5 (no driver attached) atkbdc0: port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED] atkbd0: [ITHREAD] psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED] psm0: [ITHREAD] psm0: model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: [FILTER] cpu0: on acpi0 p4tcc0: on cpu0 cpu1: on acpi0 p4tcc1: on cpu1 pmtimer0 on isa0 orm0: at iomem 0xc0000-0xca7ff,0xca800-0xcbfff pnpid ORM0000 on isa0 ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold ppbus0: on ppc0 ppbus0: [ITHREAD] plip0: on ppbus0 plip0: WARNING: using obsoleted IFF_NEEDSGIANT flag lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] ppc0: [ITHREAD] sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1: configured irq 16 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: port may not be enabled sio2: configured irq 16 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio2: port may not be enabled vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec ad0: 38182MB at ata0-master UDMA100 ad1: 19092MB at ata0-slave UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/CARD07C. Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a em0: link state changed to UP drm0: on vgapci0 info: [drm] AGP at 0xe8000000 128MB info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 drm0: [ITHREAD] ================================================= sio1/2 not showing up at irq16, is the stuff at pci1 anything? it's a dual boot box with winXP, from there I get COM 4 - i/o DEB0-DEB7 - irq 16 COM 5 - i/o DE8A-DEAF - irq 16 using driver wch.cn any ideas/help much appreciated .. Pete C From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 19:01:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FDE1065679 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57F518FC0A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DDD50B52 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:01:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BE650B48 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:01:08 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:01:09 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Apache 1.3.41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:01:12 -0000 For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might have to do something with it. httpd-error.log is empty on this if I give the command triton# apachectl restart /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd not running, trying to start /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd started and look with 'top' it isn't started and I can give the command again: triton# apachectl restart /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd not running, trying to start /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd started without having it started. Looks like half way the start Apache is stopping and bypassing every log output. Can some tell me what I am overlooking here? Does it have something to do with the php-5 portupgrade? my httpd.conf: ## ## httpd.conf ## ### Section 1: Global Environment ServerRoot "/usr/local/" #LockFile /var/run/httpd.lock PidFile /var/run/httpd.pid ScoreBoardFile /var/run/httpd.scoreboard Timeout 300 KeepAlive On MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 KeepAliveTimeout 15 MinSpareServers 5 MaxSpareServers 10 StartServers 5 MaxClients 150 MaxRequestsPerChild 0 LoadModule mmap_static_module libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so LoadModule vhost_alias_module libexec/apache/mod_vhost_alias.so LoadModule env_module libexec/apache/mod_env.so LoadModule config_log_module libexec/apache/mod_log_config.so LoadModule mime_magic_module libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so LoadModule mime_module libexec/apache/mod_mime.so LoadModule negotiation_module libexec/apache/mod_negotiation.so LoadModule status_module libexec/apache/mod_status.so LoadModule info_module libexec/apache/mod_info.so LoadModule includes_module libexec/apache/mod_include.so LoadModule autoindex_module libexec/apache/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule dir_module libexec/apache/mod_dir.so LoadModule cgi_module libexec/apache/mod_cgi.so LoadModule asis_module libexec/apache/mod_asis.so LoadModule imap_module libexec/apache/mod_imap.so LoadModule action_module libexec/apache/mod_actions.so LoadModule speling_module libexec/apache/mod_speling.so LoadModule userdir_module libexec/apache/mod_userdir.so LoadModule alias_module libexec/apache/mod_alias.so LoadModule rewrite_module libexec/apache/mod_rewrite.so LoadModule access_module libexec/apache/mod_access.so LoadModule auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth.so LoadModule anon_auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth_anon.so LoadModule db_auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth_db.so LoadModule digest_module libexec/apache/mod_digest.so LoadModule proxy_module libexec/apache/libproxy.so LoadModule cern_meta_module libexec/apache/mod_cern_meta.so LoadModule expires_module libexec/apache/mod_expires.so LoadModule headers_module libexec/apache/mod_headers.so LoadModule usertrack_module libexec/apache/mod_usertrack.so LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so LoadModule setenvif_module libexec/apache/mod_setenvif.so LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache/libphp5.so ClearModuleList AddModule mod_mmap_static.c AddModule mod_vhost_alias.c AddModule mod_env.c AddModule mod_log_config.c AddModule mod_mime_magic.c AddModule mod_mime.c AddModule mod_negotiation.c AddModule mod_status.c AddModule mod_info.c AddModule mod_include.c AddModule mod_autoindex.c AddModule mod_dir.c AddModule mod_cgi.c AddModule mod_asis.c AddModule mod_imap.c AddModule mod_actions.c AddModule mod_speling.c AddModule mod_userdir.c AddModule mod_alias.c AddModule mod_rewrite.c AddModule mod_access.c AddModule mod_auth.c AddModule mod_auth_anon.c AddModule mod_auth_db.c AddModule mod_digest.c AddModule mod_proxy.c AddModule mod_cern_meta.c AddModule mod_expires.c AddModule mod_headers.c AddModule mod_usertrack.c AddModule mod_unique_id.c AddModule mod_so.c AddModule mod_setenvif.c AddModule mod_php5.c ### Section 2: 'Main' server configuration Port 80 User www Group www ServerAdmin xx@xxxx.xxx ServerName xxxx.xxxx.xxx DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www" Options FollowSymLinks AllowOverride None Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI Includes AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options FileInfo Order allow,deny Allow from all UserDir public_html DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm DirectoryIndex index.html AccessFileName .htaccess Order allow,deny Deny from all Satisfy All UseCanonicalName On TypesConfig /usr/local/etc/apache/mime.types DefaultType text/plain MIMEMagicFile /usr/local/etc/apache/magic HostnameLookups Off ErrorLog /var/log/httpd-error.log LogLevel debug LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" combined LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log combined ServerSignature On Alias /icons/ "/usr/local/www/icons/" Options Indexes MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all Alias /manual/ "/usr/local/share/doc/apache/" Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews AllowOverride None Order allow,deny Allow from all ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/www/cgi-bin/" AllowOverride None Options None Order allow,deny Allow from all IndexOptions FancyIndexing AddIconByEncoding (CMP,/icons/compressed.gif) x-compress x-gzip AddIconByType (TXT,/icons/text.gif) text/* AddIconByType (IMG,/icons/image2.gif) image/* AddIconByType (SND,/icons/sound2.gif) audio/* AddIconByType (VID,/icons/movie.gif) video/* AddIcon /icons/binary.gif .bin .exe AddIcon /icons/binhex.gif .hqx AddIcon /icons/tar.gif .tar AddIcon /icons/world2.gif .wrl .wrl.gz .vrml .vrm .iv AddIcon /icons/compressed.gif .Z .z .tgz .gz .zip AddIcon /icons/a.gif .ps .ai .eps AddIcon /icons/layout.gif .html .shtml .htm .pdf AddIcon /icons/text.gif .txt AddIcon /icons/c.gif .c AddIcon /icons/p.gif .pl .py AddIcon /icons/f.gif .for AddIcon /icons/dvi.gif .dvi AddIcon /icons/uuencoded.gif .uu AddIcon /icons/script.gif .conf .sh .shar .csh .ksh .tcl AddIcon /icons/tex.gif .tex AddIcon /icons/bomb.gif core AddIcon /icons/back.gif .. AddIcon /icons/hand.right.gif README AddIcon /icons/folder.gif ^^DIRECTORY^^ AddIcon /icons/blank.gif ^^BLANKICON^^ DefaultIcon /icons/unknown.gif ReadmeName README HeaderName HEADER IndexIgnore .??* *~ *# HEADER* README* RCS CVS *,v *,t AddEncoding x-compress Z AddEncoding x-gzip gz tgz AddLanguage da .dk AddLanguage nl .nl AddLanguage en .en AddLanguage et .ee AddLanguage fr .fr AddLanguage de .de AddLanguage el .el AddLanguage he .he AddCharset ISO-8859-8 .iso8859-8 AddLanguage it .it AddLanguage ja .ja AddCharset ISO-2022-JP .jis AddLanguage kr .kr AddCharset ISO-2022-KR .iso-kr AddLanguage nn .nn AddLanguage no .no AddLanguage pl .po AddCharset ISO-8859-2 .iso-pl AddLanguage pt .pt AddLanguage pt-br .pt-br AddLanguage ltz .lu AddLanguage ca .ca AddLanguage es .es AddLanguage sv .sv AddLanguage cz .cz AddLanguage ru .ru AddLanguage zh-tw .tw AddLanguage tw .tw AddCharset Big5 .Big5 .big5 AddCharset WINDOWS-1251 .cp-1251 AddCharset CP866 .cp866 AddCharset ISO-8859-5 .iso-ru AddCharset KOI8-R .koi8-r AddCharset UCS-2 .ucs2 AddCharset UCS-4 .ucs4 AddCharset UTF-8 .utf8 LanguagePriority en da nl et fr de el it ja kr no pl pt pt-br ru ltz ca es sv tw AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .php3s AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps AddType application/x-tar .tgz AddType image/x-icon .ico AddHandler cgi-script .cgi AddHandler cgi-script .pl BrowserMatch "Mozilla/2" nokeepalive BrowserMatch "MSIE 4\.0b2;" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0 BrowserMatch "RealPlayer 4\.0" force-response-1.0 BrowserMatch "Java/1\.0" force-response-1.0 BrowserMatch "JDK/1\.0" force-response-1.0 ### Section 3: Virtual Hosts NameVirtualHost * include /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.sites -=- thanks for your reply, Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 19:10:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAE71065673 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:10:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from raptor.centroin.com (raptor.centroin.com [64.251.27.168]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4301E8FC20 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:10:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Received: from trex.centroin.com.br (trex.centroin.com.br [200.225.63.136]) (authenticated bits=0) by raptor.centroin.com (8.14.3/8.14.2/CIP SMTP HOST) with ESMTP id n26KsOhi071633 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:54:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from scuba@centroin.com.br) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:54:20 -0300 (BRT) From: scuba@centroin.com.br Sender: mpsouza@trex.centroin.com.br To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <7AA2D72B-77C1-4939-87E2-D924E48A4968@olivent.com> Message-ID: References: <560f92640903051709ua6aa09we801b4c4c6522fb5@mail.gmail.com> <7AA2D72B-77C1-4939-87E2-D924E48A4968@olivent.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="728547764-1700438720-1236365665=:70214" Subject: Re: [OT] Server hosting with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:10:43 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --728547764-1700438720-1236365665=:70214 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi All, Thank you for the indications. I'll analyse those options. On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Mikel King wrote: | |On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:56 PM, Jack L. wrote: | |> I provide that hosting and sharktech does as well. |> |> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Nerius Landys wrote: |> > > We´re looking for good hosting services that offer installations of |> > > FreeBSD in dedicated servers. |> > > Any one could point some? |> > > Most of the companies offer Linux and Windows, but only few with |> > > FreeBSD. |> > > The one thar we use today, only install a fixed image. Just a simple |> > > custom partition modification, cannot be done. |> > |> > There is (believe it or not) a webpage on the freebsd.org website that |> > lists some commercial businesses that offer colocation and/or |> > dedicated servers: |> > |> > http://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp.html |> > |> > My server is colocated with m5hosting.com (halfway down on that page) |> > in San Diego. I'm very happy with them. I'm running 5 video game |> > servers for the free game Urban Terror on my server. |> > | | |I missed the original post and since it's been snip I am not sure who started |the thread. | |In any event if a VPS or JAIL will meet your needs I know of some options here |in NY. Physical servers are also available but not likely at a super low price |point. | |Feel free to contact me off list and I'll see if I can point you in those |directions.... | |Regard, |Mikel King | | | |_______________________________________________ |freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list |http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions |To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" - Marcelo --728547764-1700438720-1236365665=:70214-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 19:25:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ACF41065680 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:25:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlilly@gmail.com) Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.177]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E563B8FC1D for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:25:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsdlilly@gmail.com) Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id r27so408848ele.13 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:25:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lcs28zVMoTt9lgkDduY6jB8wGR/Qlneg/8Um7wZ6tX0=; b=QtruUliDXxbR5SM0z9ppn4W6E7MGuYPmSFFoa1hBZLghtQNGjtnv+ZrNM9oW5Dcc8E cx5L+IowG9VtURUlLBu4vLWu+nlwboiIm5OzAw9USUR3Yc9Pm0OMSFDCTxqbGOCEoKpp wz3QqW0DixZrXkYHZJIUIM+IKsx20Wim8A35M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=lNra1xN1+bm+KcofUWAMMUWbs4LZpNWfMd29f2azgya4gY3S83aOVqyziNjxAzmHi2 d7b4facsQ07Q7WrGrQa8/IM/e+R+ZEdrb/F5hcjgU137XSrPz5ZZHU38kVAbFvdDGHpA WoOAufQtrwTEndmXFfN4at7HuvVKb8jPRpMuI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.99.205 with SMTP id v13mr1023010vcn.105.1236367531062; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:25:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> References: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:25:30 -0800 Message-ID: From: mojo fms To: Jos Chrispijn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:25:33 -0000 I had a problem similar to this when I first built a 7.1 server a few weeks ago. I tried to install php5 with apache and gallery and httpd would not start. It was segfaulting every time, php5's module was causing it but I never narrowed it down to exactly why. I ended up uninstalling php5, cleaning the work dir and the downloaded files and rebuilt and installed it. I also ended up rebuilding apache to be on the safe side and it started working again. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Jos Chrispijn wrote: > For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports > upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might have to > do something with it. > > httpd-error.log is empty on this > > if I give the command > > triton# apachectl restart > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd not running, trying to start > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd started > > and look with 'top' it isn't started and I can give the command again: > > triton# apachectl restart > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd not running, trying to start > /usr/local/sbin/apachectl restart: httpd started > > without having it started. > Looks like half way the start Apache is stopping and bypassing every log > output. > > Can some tell me what I am overlooking here? Does it have something to do > with the php-5 portupgrade? > > my httpd.conf: > > ## > ## httpd.conf > ## > > ### Section 1: Global Environment > > ServerRoot "/usr/local/" > #LockFile /var/run/httpd.lock > PidFile /var/run/httpd.pid > ScoreBoardFile /var/run/httpd.scoreboard > Timeout 300 > KeepAlive On > MaxKeepAliveRequests 100 > KeepAliveTimeout 15 > MinSpareServers 5 > MaxSpareServers 10 > StartServers 5 > MaxClients 150 > MaxRequestsPerChild 0 > > LoadModule mmap_static_module libexec/apache/mod_mmap_static.so > LoadModule vhost_alias_module libexec/apache/mod_vhost_alias.so > LoadModule env_module libexec/apache/mod_env.so > LoadModule config_log_module libexec/apache/mod_log_config.so > LoadModule mime_magic_module libexec/apache/mod_mime_magic.so > LoadModule mime_module libexec/apache/mod_mime.so > LoadModule negotiation_module libexec/apache/mod_negotiation.so > LoadModule status_module libexec/apache/mod_status.so > LoadModule info_module libexec/apache/mod_info.so > LoadModule includes_module libexec/apache/mod_include.so > LoadModule autoindex_module libexec/apache/mod_autoindex.so > LoadModule dir_module libexec/apache/mod_dir.so > LoadModule cgi_module libexec/apache/mod_cgi.so > LoadModule asis_module libexec/apache/mod_asis.so > LoadModule imap_module libexec/apache/mod_imap.so > LoadModule action_module libexec/apache/mod_actions.so > LoadModule speling_module libexec/apache/mod_speling.so > LoadModule userdir_module libexec/apache/mod_userdir.so > LoadModule alias_module libexec/apache/mod_alias.so > LoadModule rewrite_module libexec/apache/mod_rewrite.so > LoadModule access_module libexec/apache/mod_access.so > LoadModule auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth.so > LoadModule anon_auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth_anon.so > LoadModule db_auth_module libexec/apache/mod_auth_db.so > LoadModule digest_module libexec/apache/mod_digest.so > LoadModule proxy_module libexec/apache/libproxy.so > LoadModule cern_meta_module libexec/apache/mod_cern_meta.so > LoadModule expires_module libexec/apache/mod_expires.so > LoadModule headers_module libexec/apache/mod_headers.so > LoadModule usertrack_module libexec/apache/mod_usertrack.so > LoadModule unique_id_module libexec/apache/mod_unique_id.so > LoadModule setenvif_module libexec/apache/mod_setenvif.so > LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache/libphp5.so > > ClearModuleList > AddModule mod_mmap_static.c > AddModule mod_vhost_alias.c > AddModule mod_env.c > AddModule mod_log_config.c > AddModule mod_mime_magic.c > AddModule mod_mime.c > AddModule mod_negotiation.c > AddModule mod_status.c > AddModule mod_info.c > AddModule mod_include.c > AddModule mod_autoindex.c > AddModule mod_dir.c > AddModule mod_cgi.c > AddModule mod_asis.c > AddModule mod_imap.c > AddModule mod_actions.c > AddModule mod_speling.c > AddModule mod_userdir.c > AddModule mod_alias.c > AddModule mod_rewrite.c > AddModule mod_access.c > AddModule mod_auth.c > AddModule mod_auth_anon.c > AddModule mod_auth_db.c > AddModule mod_digest.c > AddModule mod_proxy.c > AddModule mod_cern_meta.c > AddModule mod_expires.c > AddModule mod_headers.c > AddModule mod_usertrack.c > AddModule mod_unique_id.c > AddModule mod_so.c > AddModule mod_setenvif.c > AddModule mod_php5.c > > ### Section 2: 'Main' server configuration > > Port 80 > User www > Group www > ServerAdmin xx@xxxx.xxx > ServerName xxxx.xxxx.xxx > DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www" > > > Options FollowSymLinks > AllowOverride None > > > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI Includes > AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options FileInfo > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > > > UserDir public_html > > > > > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html > > > DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html > > > > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm > > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm > > > DirectoryIndex index.html > > > > > AccessFileName .htaccess > > > Order allow,deny > Deny from all > Satisfy All > > > UseCanonicalName On > > > TypesConfig /usr/local/etc/apache/mime.types > > > DefaultType text/plain > > > MIMEMagicFile /usr/local/etc/apache/magic > > > HostnameLookups Off > ErrorLog /var/log/httpd-error.log > LogLevel debug > LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\"" > combined > LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b" common > LogFormat "%{Referer}i -> %U" referer > LogFormat "%{User-agent}i" agent > CustomLog /var/log/httpd-access.log combined > ServerSignature On > > > Alias /icons/ "/usr/local/www/icons/" > > > Options Indexes MultiViews > AllowOverride None > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > Alias /manual/ "/usr/local/share/doc/apache/" > > Options Indexes FollowSymlinks MultiViews > AllowOverride None > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/usr/local/www/cgi-bin/" > > AllowOverride None > Options None > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > > > > IndexOptions FancyIndexing > AddIconByEncoding (CMP,/icons/compressed.gif) x-compress x-gzip > > AddIconByType (TXT,/icons/text.gif) text/* > AddIconByType (IMG,/icons/image2.gif) image/* > AddIconByType (SND,/icons/sound2.gif) audio/* > AddIconByType (VID,/icons/movie.gif) video/* > > AddIcon /icons/binary.gif .bin .exe > AddIcon /icons/binhex.gif .hqx > AddIcon /icons/tar.gif .tar > AddIcon /icons/world2.gif .wrl .wrl.gz .vrml .vrm .iv > AddIcon /icons/compressed.gif .Z .z .tgz .gz .zip > AddIcon /icons/a.gif .ps .ai .eps > AddIcon /icons/layout.gif .html .shtml .htm .pdf > AddIcon /icons/text.gif .txt > AddIcon /icons/c.gif .c > AddIcon /icons/p.gif .pl .py > AddIcon /icons/f.gif .for > AddIcon /icons/dvi.gif .dvi > AddIcon /icons/uuencoded.gif .uu > AddIcon /icons/script.gif .conf .sh .shar .csh .ksh .tcl > AddIcon /icons/tex.gif .tex > AddIcon /icons/bomb.gif core > > AddIcon /icons/back.gif .. > AddIcon /icons/hand.right.gif README > AddIcon /icons/folder.gif ^^DIRECTORY^^ > AddIcon /icons/blank.gif ^^BLANKICON^^ > DefaultIcon /icons/unknown.gif > ReadmeName README > HeaderName HEADER > IndexIgnore .??* *~ *# HEADER* README* RCS CVS *,v *,t > > > > AddEncoding x-compress Z > AddEncoding x-gzip gz tgz > AddLanguage da .dk > AddLanguage nl .nl > AddLanguage en .en > AddLanguage et .ee > AddLanguage fr .fr > AddLanguage de .de > AddLanguage el .el > AddLanguage he .he > AddCharset ISO-8859-8 .iso8859-8 > AddLanguage it .it > AddLanguage ja .ja > AddCharset ISO-2022-JP .jis > AddLanguage kr .kr > AddCharset ISO-2022-KR .iso-kr > AddLanguage nn .nn > AddLanguage no .no > AddLanguage pl .po > AddCharset ISO-8859-2 .iso-pl > AddLanguage pt .pt > AddLanguage pt-br .pt-br > AddLanguage ltz .lu > AddLanguage ca .ca > AddLanguage es .es > AddLanguage sv .sv > AddLanguage cz .cz > AddLanguage ru .ru > AddLanguage zh-tw .tw > AddLanguage tw .tw > AddCharset Big5 .Big5 .big5 > AddCharset WINDOWS-1251 .cp-1251 > AddCharset CP866 .cp866 > AddCharset ISO-8859-5 .iso-ru > AddCharset KOI8-R .koi8-r > AddCharset UCS-2 .ucs2 > AddCharset UCS-4 .ucs4 > AddCharset UTF-8 .utf8 > > LanguagePriority en da nl et fr de el it ja kr no pl pt pt-br ru ltz > ca es sv tw > > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 > AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .php3s > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > AddType application/x-tar .tgz > AddType image/x-icon .ico > AddHandler cgi-script .cgi > AddHandler cgi-script .pl > > > > BrowserMatch "Mozilla/2" nokeepalive > BrowserMatch "MSIE 4\.0b2;" nokeepalive downgrade-1.0 force-response-1.0 > BrowserMatch "RealPlayer 4\.0" force-response-1.0 > BrowserMatch "Java/1\.0" force-response-1.0 > BrowserMatch "JDK/1\.0" force-response-1.0 > > > ### Section 3: Virtual Hosts > > NameVirtualHost * > > include /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.sites > > -=- > > thanks for your reply, > Jos > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 19:29:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FDC1065670 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432A08FC17 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CFC5097D; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:29:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5957D50967; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:29:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B179AD.3050606@webrz.net> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:29:49 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mojo fms References: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:29:49 -0000 mojo fms wrote: > I had a problem similar to this when I first built a 7.1 server a few weeks > ago. I tried to install php5 with apache and gallery and httpd would not > start. It was segfaulting every time, php5's module was causing it but I > never narrowed it down to exactly why. I ended up uninstalling php5, > cleaning the work dir and the downloaded files and rebuilt and installed > it. I also ended up rebuilding apache to be on the safe side and it started > working again. > Can you tell me which php5 module that was? I have rebuilt Apache but yet no result. thanks for sharing, Jos Chrispijn From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 19:36:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939E3106566C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:36:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4213A8FC08 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:36:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n26Ja6xe037181; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:36:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daleco.biz Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ezekiel.daleco.biz [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id j5Pl7xpeo-Q9; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:36:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from archangel.daleco.biz (ezekiel.daleco.biz [66.76.92.18]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n26JZo3v037166; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:35:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <49B17B16.4050401@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:35:50 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080719 SeaMonkey/1.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jos Chrispijn References: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:36:14 -0000 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports > upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might have > to do something with it. [snip] > Looks like half way the start Apache is stopping and bypassing every log > output. > > Can some tell me what I am overlooking here? Does it have something to > do with the php-5 portupgrade? High probability that you're correct. It could be possible that running a quick PHP command at the CLI (of course, that assumes that PHP has installed a CLI version) would get the error out in the open. Likely one of the modules isn't compatible? I'd comment out the entire /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini file and see if HTTPD starts. If it does, enable half the extensions and try again, etc., until you find which one causes the problem. In all likelihood, to really sort things out permanently, you'll need to rebuild all the extensions. HTH, Kevin Kinsey -- Our business in life is not to succeed but to continue to fail in high spirits. -- Robert Louis Stevenson From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 20:12:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D7A1065677 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:12:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8268FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:12:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26KC6nB081516; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:12:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n26KC5iO081513; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:12:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:12:05 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: bsdpete In-Reply-To: <49B1617D.2040901@thechristies.net> Message-ID: References: <49B1617D.2040901@thechristies.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Serial port config.. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:12:19 -0000 > ad0: 38182MB at ata0-master UDMA100 > ad1: 19092MB at ata0-slave UDMA100 > acd0: CDROM at ata1-master UDMA33 > SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! > GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider acd0 is iso9660/CARD07C. > Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a > em0: link state changed to UP > drm0: on vgapci0 > info: [drm] AGP at 0xe8000000 128MB > info: [drm] Initialized i915 1.5.0 20060119 > drm0: [ITHREAD] i don't see any "puc" line in your config. looks like not supported, but usually all support is a matter of adding few lines to code or maybe just PCI data From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 20:41:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F50106566B for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ibonny@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38AB28FC14 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:41:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ibonny@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 2so323184ywt.13 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:41:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=v+tCcOjQOWljaKt0mcq0AoYw4Dgir9ptjLnU8lXfRGs=; b=BlXY2AUylgFi3x+hF1z/uIYMjECGVLGhDvXTzjFTNyNezw7z3sFAp8nxjCqjAZzf6G Fhl8U/blvVNyiEofVk6MwNOTTtyZ6LTjc8vw0eVySrm0Y6zFgIpwsKhKnS3pjIfCXZ0U /94EAhm1Orc93lCgJX5eTAchB7uJya0pV5M78= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=P1p0G9n42EhhujIbMbxWiLuRLvtsqHCEHoPz/IArfzLPbRyOcYBk7JFdP/OHLNJcs+ KD9mvMv3HjrzMJmoSJq6UAEGO19Op8BiaOF5iuagdZI1YUPJt90JJfaZLQj7BXVh/oV7 h3tGWucckqopM091fTlDW0iHupb2lPnXPOzj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.135.16 with SMTP id i16mr2096779and.99.1236370346226; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:12:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Ian Bonnycastle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How do I determine the FreeBSD "world" revision/version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:41:42 -0000 Good afternoon everyone, I'm asking this question here because I honestly don't know where to turn to otherwise. I've looked through forums, Google search results and the FreeBSD handbook without a specific answer. I understand the concept that FreeBSD is actually an OS, which is a combination of the kernel and the "world". Ports are the extraneous userland which is not mandatory for a working system. Now, in order to explain my question, I have to use an analogy: In Linux, you can have a kernel version, a distribution version and software versions. If you're running kernel 2.6.20, CentOS (as an example) 5.1, and bash (another example) 3.2, you know that upgrading can occur at any of those levels. My actual question is this: Is there a way to tell what version of the FreeBSD world you're running outside of "uname -a", which tells you what *kernel* version you're running? I do know that any of these can be patched to different levels outside of what you've installed from scratch (or upgraded to at any particular level), but with Linux, when you run the respective commands, you get the *base* revision you started from. In FreeBSD, "uname -a" gives you the kernel "base", and "pkg_info" will give you the software revision base for a particular port/package. If I have a particular FreeBSD system, and know its a modified kernel, how can I tell what base was originally on it? I've often updated the kernel on a 7.1-RELEASE to 7-STABLE to get more recent updates to the kernel, but the base as been left at 7.1-RELEASE. Now, it could have been 7.0-RELEASE or 7.x-RELEASE and after upgrading the kernel, is this informaiton stored anywhere? Also, if this *is* explained somewhere, and I've missed, I honestly apologize in advance. Thanks, Ian -- So drop on the deck and flop like a fish. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 20:49:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB64106566C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from whiskey.ihavefire.com (orange.ihavefire.com [204.246.77.201]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEA48FC18 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Received: from orange.ihavefire.com (orange.ihavefire.com [204.246.77.201]) by whiskey.ihavefire.com (8.14.2/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26KnvYm008568; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:49:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jamie@gnulife.org) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:49:57 -0600 (CST) From: Jamie X-X-Sender: jamie@whiskey.ihavefire.com To: Ian Bonnycastle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I determine the FreeBSD "world" revision/version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:49:57 -0000 Ian, You can do a: "less /var/run/dmesg.boot" and near the beginning of the output it displays your system build: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p3 #3: Wed Jul 16 14:51:34 CDT 2008 james@example.foo.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BSNI This says 6.3 RELEASE, and it will also give the patchlevel (p3) - Jamie ------------------------------------------------------------- "Wherever you go, there you are!" On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Ian Bonnycastle wrote: > Good afternoon everyone, > > I'm asking this question here because I honestly don't know where to turn to > otherwise. I've looked through forums, Google search results and the FreeBSD > handbook without a specific answer. I understand the concept that FreeBSD is > actually an OS, which is a combination of the kernel and the "world". Ports > are the extraneous userland which is not mandatory for a working system. > Now, in order to explain my question, I have to use an analogy: In Linux, > you can have a kernel version, a distribution version and software versions. > If you're running kernel 2.6.20, CentOS (as an example) 5.1, and bash > (another example) 3.2, you know that upgrading can occur at any of those > levels. > > My actual question is this: Is there a way to tell what version of the > FreeBSD world you're running outside of "uname -a", which tells you what > *kernel* version you're running? I do know that any of these can be patched > to different levels outside of what you've installed from scratch (or > upgraded to at any particular level), but with Linux, when you run the > respective commands, you get the *base* revision you started from. In > FreeBSD, "uname -a" gives you the kernel "base", and "pkg_info" will give > you the software revision base for a particular port/package. If I have a > particular FreeBSD system, and know its a modified kernel, how can I tell > what base was originally on it? I've often updated the kernel on a > 7.1-RELEASE to 7-STABLE to get more recent updates to the kernel, but the > base as been left at 7.1-RELEASE. Now, it could have been 7.0-RELEASE or > 7.x-RELEASE and after upgrading the kernel, is this informaiton stored > anywhere? > > Also, if this *is* explained somewhere, and I've missed, I honestly > apologize in advance. > > Thanks, > > Ian > > -- > So drop on the deck and flop like a fish. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 20:52:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2521065759 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FFA78FC16 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rambiusparkisanius@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so435648wah.27 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:52:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hRMtEJ73hev2xIDOKPrvwHHw/6NBBUhyLq9v8y02s/4=; b=dH5Nmurvi5gfQS/hxaAwbztaJP74R0rSCoH2tkoi+FX8NYD/eAa5VEJIUJMtYFUBrK RGyu5llqbfk3/gd6Om/Iw3gWtVL/2JMu8iY3akiRIR7E1JSFmfVOo41NJCOjxXZKD3HC 7StVJY0gz1awabpHzhbMGLggzwFu5tlThZmyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QM2UtiNO8WhYSkI+9BTPsDlcGIjH2OD2WaecDsi7OKq6NTLGfgY3AD6fIzGCoHlSOo dXU2IxOFb3X/DTpzL01I8E5TP9Q6+jscwzWvCop9nvam6uRPjT8eTF3HmdpNv+AmmvuB EWI94H/VlPjBuwNmyF2IepiSEHftstokRyNvk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.110.1 with SMTP id n1mr1747683wam.102.1236372751681; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:52:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:52:31 -0500 Message-ID: <89ce7f740903061252i2359af83v1cf612be28afad16@mail.gmail.com> From: "Ivan \"Rambius\" Ivanov" To: Ian Bonnycastle Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I determine the FreeBSD "world" revision/version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:52:32 -0000 Hello, On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Ian Bonnycastle wrote: > If I have a > particular FreeBSD system, and know its a modified kernel, how can I tell > what base was originally on it? Actually, why would you want to know this and how do you define base? I have a laptop on which I installed years ago FreeBSD 5.5. Then I upgraded the sources using cvsup to 6.0 and rebuilt it, than again to 6.1, 6.2 and up to 7.1. So what is the base in this case? Regards Rambius -- Tangra Mega Rock: http://www.radiotangra.com From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 20:54:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3B310656BD for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net (ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net [80.76.149.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB308FC0C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:54:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from erikt@midgard.homeip.net) Received: from c83-255-48-78.bredband.comhem.se ([83.255.48.78]:65102 helo=falcon.midgard.homeip.net) by ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfh3U-0007BH-6r for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:54:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 22287 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2009 21:54:02 +0100 Received: from owl.midgard.homeip.net (10.1.5.7) by falcon.midgard.homeip.net with ESMTP; 6 Mar 2009 21:54:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 59147 invoked by uid 1001); 6 Mar 2009 21:54:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:54:02 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Ian Bonnycastle Message-ID: <20090306205402.GA59135@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Originating-IP: 83.255.48.78 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Lfh3U-0007BH-6r. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp02.sth.basefarm.net 1Lfh3U-0007BH-6r 6a0c1fe004bcf2fb755d315791322ef7 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I determine the FreeBSD "world" revision/version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:54:09 -0000 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 03:12:26PM -0500, Ian Bonnycastle wrote: > Good afternoon everyone, > > I'm asking this question here because I honestly don't know where to turn to > otherwise. I've looked through forums, Google search results and the FreeBSD > handbook without a specific answer. I understand the concept that FreeBSD is > actually an OS, which is a combination of the kernel and the "world". Ports > are the extraneous userland which is not mandatory for a working system. > Now, in order to explain my question, I have to use an analogy: In Linux, > you can have a kernel version, a distribution version and software versions. > If you're running kernel 2.6.20, CentOS (as an example) 5.1, and bash > (another example) 3.2, you know that upgrading can occur at any of those > levels. > > My actual question is this: Is there a way to tell what version of the > FreeBSD world you're running outside of "uname -a", which tells you what > *kernel* version you're running? I do know that any of these can be patched > to different levels outside of what you've installed from scratch (or > upgraded to at any particular level), but with Linux, when you run the > respective commands, you get the *base* revision you started from. In > FreeBSD, "uname -a" gives you the kernel "base", and "pkg_info" will give > you the software revision base for a particular port/package. If I have a > particular FreeBSD system, and know its a modified kernel, how can I tell > what base was originally on it? I've often updated the kernel on a > 7.1-RELEASE to 7-STABLE to get more recent updates to the kernel, but the > base as been left at 7.1-RELEASE. Now, it could have been 7.0-RELEASE or > 7.x-RELEASE and after upgrading the kernel, is this informaiton stored > anywhere? No, there is no such information. The version stored in the kernel applies to both kernel and userland. If you do 'mix-and-match' where different parts of your system come from different versions of FreeBSD you will have to keep track of this yourself. 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Regards, 1001 Postcards http://www.postcards.org/postcards/ References 1. http://83.96.231.108/~test/E-Greetings.exe From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 21:33:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE58106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:33:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from dns.msk.asap.bg (dns.msk.asap.bg [78.90.206.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBCB48FC0C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:33:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from smtp.msk.asap.bg (87-126-9-51.btc-net.bg [87.126.9.51]) by mskns1.supportsite.ws (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA5439854 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:40:47 +0200 (EET) Received: from [10.30.1.106] (unknown [10.30.1.106]) by smtp.msk.asap.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907A86FE6F for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:26:45 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:26:39 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RAID-5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:33:30 -0000 hello, What is the easiest way to achieve RAID-5 in freebsd aprt for Vinum ? I plan to use 1 x 250 GB (no mirroring) + 3 x 1.5 TB in RAID 5 Is there any tutorial about it ? Handbook does not look very promising :-) Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 22:21:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E88C1065673 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:21:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og111.obsmtp.com (exprod7og111.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.175]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 365CA8FC1E for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:21:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.198.246]) by exprod7ob111.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSbGhzlx54Ivjrxl5HbVYkG7ZhktwyuJu@postini.com; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:21:03 PST Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c5so768617rvf.56 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.68.21 with SMTP id v21mr1494507rvk.273.1236378060269; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm2617583rvf.1.2009.03.06.14.20.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:20:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:20:40 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Steele To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <5600293.831236378037376.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <24302594.811236377623848.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: One USB drive boots, the other doesn't... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:21:03 -0000 I have a process with creates bootable USB disks with FreeBSD 7.0. The creation of the USB disks is pretty straightforward. We have a master OS image saved as a tarball, and when we want to create a new USB disk, we simply create a single bootable UFS partition on the target USB drive and then extract and copy the tarball image onto the USB disk. We just got a bunch of new 4GB USB disks from a different manufacturer than we had been using and when we try to boot a system with this disk the BIOS reports a "missing operating system" error. Well, the OS is definitely not missing, so I assume that the BIOS can't read the boot info from the USB drive for some reason. Is there a way around this? Surely there must be away to get a bootable OS onto a USB drive, regardless of it's brand. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 22:39:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA9C106566C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:39:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038078FC1D for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:39:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26MdIHc081856; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n26MdIM0081853; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:39:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:39:18 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Peter In-Reply-To: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> Message-ID: References: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: RAID-5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:39:33 -0000 search geom_raid5 in google. i don't know why it's not yet integrated in FreeBSD. it works On Fri, 6 Mar 2009, Peter wrote: > hello, > > What is the easiest way to achieve RAID-5 in freebsd aprt for Vinum ? > > I plan to use 1 x 250 GB (no mirroring) + 3 x 1.5 TB in RAID 5 > > Is there any tutorial about it ? Handbook does not look very promising :-) > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 22:53:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD49106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:53:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from dns.msk.asap.bg (dns.msk.asap.bg [78.90.206.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6A78FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [10.30.4.100] (unknown [78.90.167.18]) by dns.msk.asap.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCB43985D for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:53:17 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <49B1A957.8090309@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:53:11 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAID-5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:53:19 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > search geom_raid5 in google. > > i don't know why it's not yet integrated in FreeBSD. > I did search even earlier today, but all I got was wikipedia article + some forums posts with some patches(nothing like ports or anything). any tutorial, howto, help will be highly appreciated...Even a small without details step by step action plan will do it :-)) Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 23:05:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BABC106566C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:05:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from honeysuckle.london.02.net (honeysuckle.london.02.net [87.194.255.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AA38FC0A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:05:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cwhiteh@onetel.com) Received: from [192.168.1.75] (93.97.24.219) by honeysuckle.london.02.net (8.5.016.1) id 497A2AF000C8077D; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:05:10 +0000 Message-ID: <49B1AC25.3000700@onetel.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:05:09 +0000 From: Chris Whitehouse User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090113) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Steele References: <5600293.831236378037376.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <5600293.831236378037376.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One USB drive boots, the other doesn't... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:05:16 -0000 Peter Steele wrote: > I have a process with creates bootable USB disks with FreeBSD 7.0. > The creation of the USB disks is prettystraightforward. We have a > master OS image saved as a tarball, and when we want to create a new > USB disk, we simply create a single bootable UFS partition on the > target USB drive and then extract and copy the tarball image onto the > USB disk. > > We just got a bunch of new 4GB USB disks from a different > manufacturer than we had been using and when we try to boot a system > with this disk the BIOS reports a "missing operating system" error. > Well, the OS is definitely not missing, so I assume that the BIOS > can't read the boot info from the USB drive for some reason. Is there > a way around this? Surely there must be away to get a bootable OS > onto a USB drive, regardless of it's brand. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Shot in the dark but are they by any chance U3 devices? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3 Chris From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 23:16:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C58106564A for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:16:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C868FC15 for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:16:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n26NFt5l082005; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:15:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n26NFsWn082002; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:15:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:15:54 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Peter In-Reply-To: <49B1A957.8090309@aboutsupport.com> Message-ID: References: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> <49B1A957.8090309@aboutsupport.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: RAID-5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:16:07 -0000 unpack tar.gz, compile, load kernel module and use graid5 tool :) On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Peter wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> search geom_raid5 in google. >> >> i don't know why it's not yet integrated in FreeBSD. >> > I did search even earlier today, but all I got was wikipedia article + > some forums posts with some patches(nothing like ports or anything). > > any tutorial, howto, help will be highly appreciated...Even a small > without details step by step action plan will do it :-)) > > Peter > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 23:27:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134DD106566C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og113.obsmtp.com (exprod7og113.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.179]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A9AC08FC0C for ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:27:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.198.251]) by exprod7ob113.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSbGxSzY4nfpYsKZkkTEW2fkTo33eD2Wc@postini.com; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:27:07 PST Received: by rv-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id k29so708895rvb.34 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.108.2 with SMTP id g2mr1302499wfc.259.1236382026873; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g14sm688166rvb.0.2009.03.06.15.27.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:27:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:26:47 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Steele To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <27998819.871236382003017.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <49B1AC25.3000700@onetel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: One USB drive boots, the other doesn't... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:27:08 -0000 >Shot in the dark but are they by any chance U3 devices? > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3 There is no indication of that. They mount fine and can be formatted as UFS and have files copied to them. They are just basic 4GB USB flash drives, on sale at our local Frys. HP brand (but I don't know if someone else is the OEM)... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 02:34:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF73106566C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 02:34:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f176.google.com (mail-gx0-f176.google.com [209.85.217.176]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E158FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 02:34:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by gxk24 with SMTP id 24so1634484gxk.19 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:34:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MaPxGolN9ej+PN29e9bkpdVmCR4AWJvm2jm1iUWE66c=; b=dIh5i6EpXVn2xoHMVMlN7HWK78s6H3fJOrOr6ebzx1U+t66ilAMAdoyzp1hkuizjqY +H9fh1soIVIFEYzafYOUfamcu7Okq9YTcrySTHBxlBYWgLUQE3Vr+tgQ+yS7nJIU9nq5 HD9xy4MQtAEfx4La22Yz6SEi0+RuePNzbtUh4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=PInOOPC0uQa0I8ssi/+fTNJUP/B26FZbKhy+P91Nly0+7R7xQ1ZQ0qLm855Z/JwzEP rCifIfmqcbVBP0NSC7Dr704kjU1OIoOFFW4hQWoJUEVuNPH8q4f6rq9Y1+RgwhrVVL7m 0Jtbhe2SwymJww8loh+Lt2MBEqDyEWS3T0mzo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.20.65 with SMTP id e1mr906932ibb.1.1236393266928; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:34:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49B0E0E1.8090801@esiee.fr> References: <49B0E0E1.8090801@esiee.fr> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:34:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Frank Bonnet Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD + Samba + OpenLDAP + iSCSI +Netapp , anyone ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:34:28 -0000 On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:37 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > All is in the subject :-) Does anyone has setup such server configuration > > A server running FreeBSD and supporting Samba server software with OpenLDAP > backend and using iSCSI as disk access protocol > to a Netapp filer for Samba volumes ? > > I plan this so passed experiences are welcome ! > > Thanks a lot I've done the Samba+OpenLDAP -- I have an install still running off that. iSCSI isn't hard to add into it, but I've never heard or ran Netapp. So I'd offer my help with OpenLDAP+Samba. iSCSI is easy (keeping in mind the ACL built into iSCSI); and maybe someone else can help with Netapp. Good Luck. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 02:39:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97247106564A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 02:39:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackoroses@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f164.google.com (mail-bw0-f164.google.com [209.85.218.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82308FC12 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 02:39:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jackoroses@gmail.com) Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so554025bwz.43 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:39:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mr/mh53OYPqu6g+TrHgt5NJYs6DBC0h7iO/PiuSNYcg=; b=ew932RvZTtqPCZAS7dFTfabd/UGKJOwdRM4qZHlGvEqTrl69Vr9TiZfTcQ3mgdhf0a IG2mQDH6yKp8U7E0ACgJ0AddW5pDZTzRbt5sXTmWNdBRwPT1UYjsuFB86PryQWkU07qB pvSj0hrCTW3vWo5VG914rEYJ9trpjjis6am98= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=e4Kq4Z67hs3p92UlUqVOSkg8QrL4/D4YftbG0aniMz6E5kMgkxh8qFPJs5OcvTuQKo gvAoQ0BzzVzj+zchnvaKwC8U7qUfzQFfxQ77iZf7VCiOEewFyHMHc/Q0ODQWcF9jiyov Cul9R1hgcRQQygqhzXtEjdV1EgPZqTNKRPq1E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.244.10 with SMTP id w10mr1364957mur.71.1236392056075; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:14:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27998819.871236382003017.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> References: <49B1AC25.3000700@onetel.com> <27998819.871236382003017.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:14:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1d001f850903061814k2577f3ccs94be86bcc87b9efd@mail.gmail.com> From: Mike L To: Peter Steele Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One USB drive boots, the other doesn't... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jacko@gmail.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:39:26 -0000 from what I understand it's widely known there is not a standard for implementing USB bios boot. I can take a flash drive make it bootable with grub4dos and my board will not see it. Take that same drive implement normal grub or syslinux and my board will now boot that flash drive. Take that bootable flash drive put it in another board and that board won't boot it unless you change the boot option to USB floppy... It could just be the board doesn't like the new drive you are using now. I could be wrong on all this but that is how I understand it as of now.. You might be able to make a work around by booting to a dos environment and load USB drivers. That is unfamiliar territory to me and probably not a work around you wish to use. reply to list please reply to is a spam catch. On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Peter Steele wrote: > >Shot in the dark but are they by any chance U3 devices? > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U3 > > There is no indication of that. They mount fine and can be formatted as UFS > and have files copied to them. They are just basic 4GB USB flash drives, on > sale at our local Frys. HP brand (but I don't know if someone else is the > OEM)... > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 03:23:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993741065676 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og104.obsmtp.com (exprod7og104.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 487038FC1E for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.200.170]) by exprod7ob104.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSbHolFD+7xD5Z0csBu21JRdjJw4yInY8@postini.com; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:02 PST Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 23so830494wfg.25 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.234.16 with SMTP id g16mr1382416wfh.264.1236396180609; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k37sm1848001rvb.1.2009.03.06.19.22.59 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:23:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:22:40 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Steele To: jacko@gmail.com Message-ID: <5831124.1041236396158363.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> In-Reply-To: <13789940.1021236395573848.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: One USB drive boots, the other doesn't... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:23:02 -0000 >from what I understand it's widely known there is not a standard for implementing USB bios boot. > >I can take a flash drive make it bootable with grub4dos and my board will not see it. >Take that same drive implement normal grub or syslinux and my board will now boot that flash drive. Take that >bootable flash drive put it in another board and that board won't boot it unless you change the boot option to USB >floppy... It could just be the board doesn't like the new drive you are using now. >I could be wrong on all this but that is how I understand it as of now.. >You might be able to make a work around by booting to a dos environment and load USB drivers. >That is unfamiliar territory to me and probably not a work around you wish to use. I've certainly seen in even the Windows world that if you make a bootable disk on one system it will not necessarily boot on another system, especially if the BIOS is different. If everything is identical though--disk type and BIOS--a bootable disk should be able to be moved from system to system. I've done this many times. I would think the same would hold true for Unix and USB. In this case we are preparing the USB flash disks on the same systems that they will be used to boot from. So there is no issue with BIOS incompatibilities or anything like that. From a BIOS perspective in fact I doubt it would even recognize that it is booting from a USB disk per se. It would just be another disk device. So I puzzled with what's going on here. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 03:32:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFD81065676 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from exprod7og101.obsmtp.com (exprod7og101.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.155]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D7CBA8FC1C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:32:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from psteele@maxiscale.com) Received: from source ([209.85.198.226]) by exprod7ob101.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKSbHqxf9XBlH6lNgRjHwYvgjnEy20A+pt@postini.com; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:32:21 PST Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g9so886288rvb.3 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.141.50.11 with SMTP id c11mr1639959rvk.139.1236396741216; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([76.231.178.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l31sm5527823rvb.5.2009.03.06.19.32.20 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:32:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:32:01 -0800 (PST) From: Peter Steele To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <19609751.1081236396720852.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: How do I install the standard boot manager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:32:22 -0000 How do I install the standard boot manager on a disk using a command line tool? I believe boot0cfg -B /dev/adN installs the FreeBSD boot manager, but I want the standard boot manager that matches the option in sysinstall. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 03:45:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DD3106564A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:45:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f166.google.com (mail-ew0-f166.google.com [209.85.219.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153298FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:45:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: by ewy10 with SMTP id 10so301814ewy.43 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:45:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:received :x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=JYnKBJCh/jSiEE0tz2PU2mkszjjjBnIcU8vsUwREI4s=; b=HXbOq12yBbi0idFeuxYuQroa/vnFmOZeHjdyd7JV6uMFi9LdU7jYv/gzksglRrDa52 gkzQJDe34B6FW1NdawWUyhCxA+JF1scvTguPF1pl71Xm0YRAPDob0o98sFE7xHjRsFao tdHem3s6kL2mbph9rD9arQlRyw8nvLd9gX4HU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=x-authentication-warning:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=JPchka83Pvj7J040DW/cZkeoAYXwioFvThnmZyLzmW9RKyuDgTMmiqQN9O/j3X/RGt LdZtiNWPLWLCfMrz+MsH/bdO7Nosoz5RQ5t4sKmQ3REC3KOwzMxuZS4MJItxP5DqBNlY sEch55kO2NNDsKoyySMbelmtfZC8Rn6dXmxqQ= Received: by 10.210.112.1 with SMTP id k1mr1586885ebc.20.1236397502149; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org ([85.175.25.104]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm2019768eyz.10.2009.03.06.19.45.01 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from darklight.homeunix.org (darklight.homeunix.org [127.0.0.1]) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n273iwXM012487; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 06:44:59 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) Received: (from yuri@localhost) by darklight.homeunix.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n273iwNi012486; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 06:44:58 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from yuri.pankov@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: darklight.homeunix.org: yuri set sender to yuri.pankov@gmail.com using -f Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 06:44:57 +0300 From: Yuri Pankov To: Peter Steele Message-ID: <20090307034457.GA1090@darklight.homeunix.org> References: <19609751.1081236396720852.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <19609751.1081236396720852.JavaMail.HALO$@halo> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I install the standard boot manager? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:45:04 -0000 On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 07:32:01PM -0800, Peter Steele wrote: > How do I install the standard boot manager on a disk using a command line tool? I believe > > boot0cfg -B /dev/adN > > installs the FreeBSD boot manager, but I want the standard boot manager that matches the option in sysinstall. fdisk -B /dev/adN (check EXAMPLES section in boot0cfg manpage). Yuri From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 04:15:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC091065687 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 04:15:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from sola.nimnet.asn.au (paqi.nimnet.asn.au [220.233.188.227]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D2A8FC23 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 04:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sola.nimnet.asn.au (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n274FG0Y022105; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:15:17 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:15:16 +1100 (EST) From: Ian Smith To: Jos Chrispijn In-Reply-To: <20090306230528.EEB72106574F@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: <20090307141250.O71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090306230528.EEB72106574F@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:15:20 -0000 On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:01:09 +0100 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports > upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might have > to do something with it. Could well be. Others offered good suggestions re rebuilding and order in extensions.ini, but I did spot a couple of things in your config: > httpd-error.log is empty on this Nothing in /var/log/messages either? > my httpd.conf: [..] > LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache/libphp5.so [..] > AddModule mod_php5.c [..] > DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www" [..] > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI Includes > AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options FileInfo > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > Shouldn't that be ie DocumentRoot? > > UserDir public_html > As advised by Apache docs re security, it's worth adding here: UserDir disabled root Ok, annotating this section: > TRUE > FALSE > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html > > > DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html > > > TRUE > FALSE > DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm > > TRUE > DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm > > TRUE !!! so overriding previous > DirectoryIndex index.html > > > The section should come last, after !mod_php4.c, or index.php isn't treated as a DirectoryIndex. I don't know if php5 install sticks it in there or what, but I've had to fix it here before. [..] > [..] > > AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 > AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .php3s > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > Looks right here. > NameVirtualHost * > > include /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.sites Presumably unchanged/ok? cheers, Ian From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 04:35:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838BC1065670 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 04:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murthyvc.83@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.228]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CF38FC14 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 04:35:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from murthyvc.83@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f6so832570rvb.43 for ; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:35:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=lil6WbiLcwiraRkbMCMMpIZqySifjPblCKgPCny/ZBk=; b=Px98KJRXRz1WLZ+sA8s8P28ZOTsGlJNi+3LkArWCr2b3PS4kqJa8b5yalUVuCCW0vs sdyvopWY5QvSnj6WzbR0lbiGWxdzSJFh5BDaiTOCgqQqFO3MVgZEYk71LGGTkCT2fNYS +0cIN12Jq0GGPWsWYsxZOV1Pu/2QCxpCnwhQs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QkXoVOiS4ctEesv1fDtpxJZMxTzdW1OaxQVLViJiEQ7aPNAr2F3+wreQEgvPMVuhKR Fl9IB4nhhI7+DeX8MTjbHvWFgqQ1Z/kJH6VxIVVlW3IUvHX/clqPWWEFFEfD0qGSmELn GZaJF/PW9FYITtsQsD7RSYViG8PYUtjc1+WPc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.231.7 with SMTP id d7mr1407017wfh.318.1236400534230; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:35:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <236659.45033.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <236659.45033.qm@web30808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:05:34 +0530 Message-ID: From: Rudra murthy To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E1nielisz_L=E1szl=F3?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Install error. X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:35:35 -0000 Hi, I tried the installation with all the options. Then also I am getting hange= d in the same stage... Thanks, Rudramurthy On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:15 PM, D=C3=A1nielisz L=C3=A1szl=C3=B3 wrote: > Did you tried to disable ACPI? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rudra murthy > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 10:30:56 AM > Subject: FreeBSD 7.1 Install error. > > Hi all, > > I am new to this chain. I have a problem while installing the FreeBSD 7.1 > release on the Pentium-4 machine. > > While installing, the installation hangs in "*md0: Preloaded image > *". I have searched in the net. I didn't get any usefull > information. > > Please give some suggestion., > > Thanks in advance. > Rudramurthy > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > --=20 =E0=B2=A8=E0=B2=BF=E0=B2=AE=E0=B3=8D=E0=B2=AE .. =E0=B2=B0=E0=B3=81=E0=B2=A6=E0=B3=8D=E0=B2=B0=E0=B2=AE=E0=B3=82=E0=B2=B0=E0= =B3=8D=E0=B2=A4=E0=B2=BF From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 06:44:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FC1106566C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 06:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4871A8FC17 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 06:44:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-109-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.109.64]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9293CE54 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:44:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n276iOi4009956 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:44:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:44:23 +0100 From: Polytropon To: FreeBSD Questions Message-Id: <20090307074423.640ec208.freebsd@edvax.de> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Status field STATE in top(1) interactive mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 06:44:44 -0000 Hi list, in order to find out why Opera often keeps hanging (doing nothing), often for several minutes, I checked its top(1) output. Reading "man top", I found the following explaination: [...] STATE is the current state (one of "START", "RUN" (shown as "CPUn" on SMP systems), "SLEEP", "STOP", "ZOMB", "WAIT", "LOCK" or the event on which the process waits) [...] When Opera just hangs(TM) :-), it is in one of the states "ucond" or "umtxn" - and sucking up to 100% WCPU. Here is my question: Is there an explainative list that gives a clue about what this state indicates? Where are these "event[s] on which the process waits" documented? When I could guess, then I'd say that "ucond" means "unconditioned", "in no condition" (which would be a very strage state - the absense of any state), and "umtxn"... um... USB mass storage transmit number? No idea. Other states that I see have a more descriptive name, such as "pause", "select" or "getblk" and even "kqread". Setting: I have opera-9.63.20081215_1 on OS 7-STABE from August 2008. Thank you! -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 07:16:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108921065670 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:16:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C385A8FC15 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:16:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-109-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.109.64]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD15C3CCB6; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:16:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n277FvkT010152; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:15:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:15:57 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Erik Trulsson Message-Id: <20090307081557.53795235.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20090306205402.GA59135@owl.midgard.homeip.net> References: <20090306205402.GA59135@owl.midgard.homeip.net> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ian Bonnycastle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I determine the FreeBSD "world" revision/version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:16:20 -0000 Just an addition: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 21:54:02 +0100, Erik Trulsson wrote: > No, there is no such information. The version stored in the kernel applies > to both kernel and userland. This is correct for the sources which usually are updated both (running "make update" in /usr/src). > If you do 'mix-and-match' where different parts of your system come from > different versions of FreeBSD you will have to keep track of this yourself. Such differences can occur if you 1st - make update 2nd - build and install world and kernel 3rd - make update again 4th - build and install kernel only It can as well happen if you "make install" for a certain part of the OS (from the /usr/src tree) only. An indication of the current version of any part of the OS or the kernel can be obtained from the $FreeBSD$ CVS tag on a per-file basis. But note that these don't refer to a RELEASE or STABLE notation. -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 07:33:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B78A106566C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:33:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787578FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:33:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DEAEB5466; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:10:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C6A4509B; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:10:10 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sXt4HwBJXJE4; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:10:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl158-175.kln.forthnet.gr [62.1.61.175]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EF545088; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:10:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n277A9aV002714; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:10:09 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n277A8b6002713; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Polytropon References: <20090307074423.640ec208.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090307074423.640ec208.freebsd@edvax.de> (Polytropon's message of "Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:44:23 +0100") Message-ID: <87bpsdkdv3.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Status field STATE in top(1) interactive mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:33:28 -0000 On Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:44:23 +0100, Polytropon wrote: > Hi list, > > in order to find out why Opera often keeps hanging (doing nothing), > often for several minutes, I checked its top(1) output. > > Reading "man top", I found the following explaination: > > [...] STATE is the current state (one of "START", "RUN" > (shown as "CPUn" on SMP systems), "SLEEP", "STOP", "ZOMB", > "WAIT", "LOCK" or the event on which the process > waits) [...] > > When Opera just hangs(TM) :-), it is in one of the states "ucond" > or "umtxn" - and sucking up to 100% WCPU. > > Here is my question: Is there an explainative list that gives a > clue about what this state indicates? Where are these "event[s] > on which the process waits" documented? > > When I could guess, then I'd say that "ucond" means "unconditioned", > "in no condition" (which would be a very strage state - the absense of > any state), and "umtxn"... um... USB mass storage transmit number? No > idea. > > Other states that I see have a more descriptive name, such as "pause", > "select" or "getblk" and even "kqread". "umtx lock", "umtx", "umtxn", "umtxpi" and "umtxpp" are internal kernel strings that are used to identify particular locks and wait conditions where a process may block while running inside the kernel. A recent FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT kernel shows: keramida@kobe:/usr/src/sys$ fgrep -r '"umtx' . ./kern/kern_umtx.c:static MALLOC_DEFINE(M_UMTX, "umtx", "UMTX queue memory"); ./kern/kern_umtx.c:SYSCTL_NODE(_debug, OID_AUTO, umtx, CTLFLAG_RW, 0, "umtx debug"); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: umtx_pi_zone = uma_zcreate("umtx pi", sizeof(struct umtx_pi), ./kern/kern_umtx.c: mtx_init(&umtxq_chains[i][j].uc_lock, "umtxql", NULL, ./kern/kern_umtx.c: mtx_init(&umtx_lock, "umtx lock", NULL, MTX_SPIN); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: msleep(uc, &uc->uc_lock, 0, "umtxqb", 0); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: error = umtxq_sleep(uq, "umtx", timo); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: error = umtxq_sleep(uq, "umtx", timo); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: error = umtxq_sleep(uq, "umtxn", timo); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: "umtxpi", timo); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: error = umtxq_sleep(uq, "umtxpp", timo); ./kern/kern_umtx.c: error = umtxq_sleep(uq, "umtxpp", 0); ./kern/subr_witness.c: { "umtx lock", &lock_class_mtx_spin }, keramida@kobe:/usr/src/sys$ AFAIK, there is no automated way of generating a list of kernel wait states for all possible locks and wait conditions in the kernel, and even if there was it would be a bit tricky to update the top(1) manpage to automagically include all of them. One of the reasons why this is a relatively Sisyphean effort is that you can run often run an old top(1) binary with both a matching kernel *and* a kernel that is a few snapshots newer. When this happens the new kernel may support wait states that are not included in the top(1) manpage at all. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 07:49:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02767106564A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:49:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx02.qsc.de (mx02.qsc.de [213.148.130.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60B88FC1C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:49:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r55.edvax.de (port-92-196-109-64.dynamic.qsc.de [92.196.109.64]) by mx02.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDA316C0105; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:49:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from r55.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r55.edvax.de (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id n277nRsv010392; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:49:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:49:27 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Giorgos Keramidas Message-Id: <20090307084927.72c9cb0c.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <87bpsdkdv3.fsf@kobe.laptop> References: <20090307074423.640ec208.freebsd@edvax.de> <87bpsdkdv3.fsf@kobe.laptop> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Status field STATE in top(1) interactive mode X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:49:37 -0000 On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:10:08 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > "umtx lock", "umtx", "umtxn", "umtxpi" and "umtxpp" are internal kernel > strings that are used to identify particular locks and wait conditions > where a process may block while running inside the kernel. Okay, this makes things more clear to me. > A recent FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT kernel shows: [...] Having a look at various source files makes me believe that the problem described has something to do with memory access of Opera "through" the kernel (mutex -> mtx). It furthermore explains the "hanging" - a sleep command in the kernel. For the "uncond" state, I found nothing as informative as the above. Maybe it's a "don't know" placeholder. :-) PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU COMMAND 9774 poly 3 101 0 145M 115M ucond 0:00 11.08% opera Furthermore, I think top(1) gets the text for the locks from somewhere else, they're not part of the top(1) sources. At least, /usr/src/usr.bin/top is very dry and doesn't contain much more when in /usr/obj. :-) -- Polytropon >From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 08:25:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF4A1065673 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:25:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from home.awdcomp.net (ppp234-119.static.internode.on.net [203.122.234.119]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7892E8FC1C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:25:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from awd@awdcomp.net) Received: from getafix.abdulla ([192.168.202.99] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by home.awdcomp.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LfrOL-000K7f-4k; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:26:26 +1030 Message-ID: <49B2288F.2040501@awdcomp.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:25:59 +1030 From: Andrew User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Smith References: <20090306230528.EEB72106574F@hub.freebsd.org> <20090307141250.O71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> In-Reply-To: <20090307141250.O71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "gateway.abdulla", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see The administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi all, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:01:09 +0100 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > > For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports > > upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might have > > to do something with it. > > Could well be. Others offered good suggestions re rebuilding and order > in extensions.ini, but I did spot a couple of things in your config: [...] Content analysis details: (-1.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.4 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP X-Spam-Score: -13 (-) Cc: Jos Chrispijn , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.41 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:25:35 -0000 Hi all, Ian Smith wrote: > On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:01:09 +0100 Jos Chrispijn wrote: > > > For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports > > upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might have > > to do something with it. > > Could well be. Others offered good suggestions re rebuilding and order > in extensions.ini, but I did spot a couple of things in your config: I don't believe the config for apache has anything to do with it. I believe it is the order of the modules in the extensions.ini, which has been plaguing bsd for a while now. There is a nice little script that reorders the config for you. http://www.pingle.org/files/fixphpextorder.sh see http://www.pingle.org/2007/09/22/php-crashes-extensions-workaround However just running it doesn't appear to work (well not in my case) I had to portupgrade -A /pathtoscript/fixphpextorder.sh php5-\* I haven't had problem since, on 18 different webservers. HTH Cheers cya Andrew > > > httpd-error.log is empty on this > > Nothing in /var/log/messages either? > > > my httpd.conf: > [..] > > LoadModule php5_module libexec/apache/libphp5.so > [..] > > AddModule mod_php5.c > [..] > > DocumentRoot "/usr/local/www" > [..] > > > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews ExecCGI Includes > > AllowOverride AuthConfig Limit Indexes Options FileInfo > > Order allow,deny > > Allow from all > > > > Shouldn't that be ie DocumentRoot? > > > > > UserDir public_html > > > > As advised by Apache docs re security, it's worth adding here: > UserDir disabled root > > Ok, annotating this section: > > > TRUE > > FALSE > > > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.php3 index.html > > > > > > DirectoryIndex index.php3 index.html > > > > > > > TRUE > > FALSE > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm > > > > TRUE > > DirectoryIndex index.php index.html index.htm > > > > TRUE !!! so overriding previous > > DirectoryIndex index.html > > > > > > > > The section should come last, after !mod_php4.c, > or index.php isn't treated as a DirectoryIndex. I don't know if php5 > install sticks it in there or what, but I've had to fix it here before. > > [..] > > > [..] > > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 > > AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .php3s > > > > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > > > > AddType application/x-httpd-php .php > > AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps > > > > Looks right here. > > > NameVirtualHost * > > > > include /usr/local/etc/apache/httpd.sites > > Presumably unchanged/ok? > > cheers, Ian > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 08:38:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B274106564A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:38:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from dns.msk.asap.bg (dns.msk.asap.bg [78.90.206.101]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261768FC0A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:38:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterpub2@aboutsupport.com) Received: from [10.30.4.100] (unknown [78.90.167.18]) by dns.msk.asap.bg (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AB639836 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:38:32 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <49B2327E.1060809@aboutsupport.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:38:22 +0200 From: Peter User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" References: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> <49B1A957.8090309@aboutsupport.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: RAID-5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:38:32 -0000 Wojciech Puchar wrote: > unpack tar.gz, compile, load kernel module and use graid5 tool :) > I was going to say initially "I feel like I am back in Linux - no ports, download compile, test :-))", However looking at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html, I started to think that maybe for the first time I hit a problem which is better documented in Linux. Very strange...:-) Anyway, thanks for all your help :-) Peter From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 08:39:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BFF10656E8 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:39:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [IPv6:2001:4070:101:2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001938FC16 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n278dXjv089107; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:39:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id n278dXRW089104; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:39:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:39:33 +0100 (CET) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Peter In-Reply-To: <49B2327E.1060809@aboutsupport.com> Message-ID: References: <49B1167F.8000801@aboutsupport.com> <49B1A957.8090309@aboutsupport.com> <49B2327E.1060809@aboutsupport.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: RAID-5 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:39:46 -0000 just because it's not part of FreeBSD. why - i don't know On Sat, 7 Mar 2009, Peter wrote: > Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> unpack tar.gz, compile, load kernel module and use graid5 tool :) >> > > I was going to say initially "I feel like I am back in Linux - no ports, > download compile, test :-))", However looking at > http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html, I started to think that > maybe for the first time I hit a problem which is better documented in > Linux. Very strange...:-) > > Anyway, thanks for all your help :-) > > Peter > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 09:55:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F40106566B for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135F8FC08 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABF250A65 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:55:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E95250A64 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:55:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B24487.7010404@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:55:19 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions References: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> In-Reply-To: <49B172F5.20903@webrz.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.41 | Solved X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:55:19 -0000 Problem solved; we deinstalled everything PHP5 related and built up from scratch. I would like to thank everyone that has responded on this thread. Jos Chrispijn wrote: > For some reason, Apache isn't starting anymore after having my ports > upgraded today. That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might > have to do something with it. > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 10:13:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07236106564A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:13:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (webrz.xs4all.nl [82.95.248.216]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9E68FC1E for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:13:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jos@webrz.net) Received: from webrz.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED75C50A65 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:13:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.10.10.71] (unknown [10.10.10.71]) by webrz.xs4all.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D157C50A64 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:13:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B248E2.6060307@webrz.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:13:54 +0100 From: Jos Chrispijn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP @triton.webrz.net Subject: PHP5-extensions Setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 10:13:54 -0000 I had some related issues to this with Apache 1.3.41. What I noticed allready for quite some time is this: If I want to add an extension to my php5 allready installed ones, I go to /usr/ports/lang/php5-extensions make config and add an extention to be added later. But the other way around doesn't work; to deactivate one should think to run the same 'make config' and delete the X that indicates the extension is active, thus making it inactive. After quiting setup there would be an update (uninstall of the unchecked extension) and that would be it. In present situation, nothing happens though. Do I overlook something here? What would be the right procedure if I uncheck an extension from the setup parameter screen in order to physically delete all deactivated extension's related links and programs and update the /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini file? Jos From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 11:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA48106566B for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.66]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2198FC15 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 11:29:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Lfuj1-00088L-PG>; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:29:51 +0100 Received: from e178060189.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.60.189] helo=thor.walstatt.dyndns.org) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.69) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with esmtpsa (envelope-from ) id <1Lfuj1-00044Q-MT>; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:29:51 +0100 Message-ID: <49B25AB8.3040900@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:30:00 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090202) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 85.178.60.189 Subject: Qt4 apllications are missing button-icons X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:29:53 -0000 We use some Qt4 applications from the USGS forscientific purposes and after I compiled and installed them on several FreeBSD boxes these applications are missing their icons for the buttons. I also see this happening to several other KDE applications, like ktorrent on my private FreeBSD box. Neither Gnome nor KDE is used in any case, so I suspect missing widget-sets or some graphical sets for supporting shiny icons for buttons. Maybe someone can give me a hint (without installing KDE or Gnome). Thanks in advance, Oliver P.S. Please send me email alos, du to the fact I'm not getting this list. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 12:45:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EF71106566C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:45:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geekounet@poildetroll.net) Received: from tritus.poildetroll.net (tritus.poildetroll.net [81.93.245.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D298FC0C for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 12:45:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from geekounet@poildetroll.net) Received: from Korriban.poildetroll.net (kashyyyk.poildetroll.net [88.162.190.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tritus.poildetroll.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E5538F9; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:29:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <49B26889.2010006@poildetroll.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:28:57 +0100 From: Pierre Guinoiseau Organization: Poil de Troll User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (X11/20090131) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Seaman References: <4ad871310903041609n1542132es793320cb9e0a28e2@mail.gmail.com> <49AF7CEB.90901@infracaninophile.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49AF7CEB.90901@infracaninophile.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig1E315367F6EAFBB512AD02CF" Cc: Kurt Buff , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , "Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin" Subject: Re: the "yes" comand X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:45:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1E315367F6EAFBB512AD02CF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matthew Seaman wrote: > Kurt Buff wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 16:06, Vasadi I. Claudiu Florin >> wrote: >>> Well , I noticed that, but it's a bit odd now isn't it. I mean, >>> what's the >>> sense of having some darn letter printer out forever ? I found it >>> kind of >>> silly If you ask me. >> >> But, incredibly useful if you actually write shell scripts - many >> programs want a 'y' for input from the stdin, and this will do that >> for you. >=20 > Here's an example. When upgrading FreeBSD, especially over a large del= ta > in version numbers, you will frequently need to delete old files etc. t= hat > are no longer part of the base system. You are provided with a mechani= sm > to do that, viz: >=20 > # cd /usr/src > # make check-old {prints out all old files, directories and > libraries to be deleted} > # make delete-old > {prompts you to delete anything apart from shlibs which it won't > touch} >=20 > However 'make delete-old' will ask you whether you want to delete each > and every individual file, which is tedious. If you decide from your > inspection of the 'make check-old' output that you don't want any of th= e > old files, you can just run: >=20 > # yes | make delete-old >=20 > Job done. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 Or you can also do: # make BATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES=3DYES delete-old ;) --------------enig1E315367F6EAFBB512AD02CF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmyaI8ACgkQJikNJSAyef/k7gCgk7H8Dq4Bf+//gHJwsXNtBOL2 Ig8An3GGCDdCKX8G9x6KjA3nAeo6Dfji =m2eK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1E315367F6EAFBB512AD02CF-- From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 14:31:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D4010656D3 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:31:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CD28FC1A for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:31:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2009 09:31:46 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.4-GA) with ESMTP id POS60921; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:31:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 07 Mar 2009 09:31:36 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18866.34114.6261.671875@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:31:30 -0500 To: Polytropon In-Reply-To: <20090307081557.53795235.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20090306205402.GA59135@owl.midgard.homeip.net> <20090307081557.53795235.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: Ian Bonnycastle , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do I determine the FreeBSD "world" revision/version? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:32:00 -0000 Polytropon writes: > > If you do 'mix-and-match' where different parts of your system > > come from different versions of FreeBSD you will have to keep > > track of this yourself. > > Such differences can occur if you > 1st - make update > 2nd - build and install world and kernel > 3rd - make update again > 4th - build and install kernel only > > It can as well happen if you "make install" for a certain part of > the OS (from the /usr/src tree) only. I would consider these wearing a giant karmic "Kick Me!" sign. I've done it, but only rarely, with parts that don't change much, and with code bases that are _at most_ a few days apart. Robert Huff From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 14:59:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162E21065673 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:59:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67988FC12 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:59:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lfy0G-000054-QS for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:59:52 +0000 Received: from ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net ([68.230.160.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:59:52 +0000 Received: from jvk-list by ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:59:52 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Joe Kraft Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:59:12 -0500 Lines: 27 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Sender: news Subject: kde/kdm + nsswitch + ldap = nologon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:59:54 -0000 I'm trying to implement SSO using Samba-3.2.4 with an LDAP backend. The intent is to use ldap directly for FBSD clients and Samba for MS Windows clients. The LDAP server (openldap 2.4.11) is running on a FBSD 6.3 server and is setup and seems to be working fine, I can log in locally or through SSH using the ldap accounts. I'm working on the first client which is a FBSD 7.1 machine. I can use ldap to login on this machine, but I'm having issues with logging in using kdm. I can see all the users both from local files and from ldap, but I can't log in using either. Even when kdm won't allow a login, I can and get a normal login shell and login with local or ldap accounts. The ldap lines are included in my /etc/pam.d/kde file. If I remove ldap from the nsswitch.conf file it will start working with local logins on kdm again. I ran into a bug report from last summer that appears to still be open with exactly the same issue (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124321). Does anyone know a workaround or have a patch for the issue? I can provide config files and such if anyone thinks it might help. Thanks, Joe. From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 16:05:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92173106567D for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:05:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB898FC14 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:05:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lfz23-0002gs-Of for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:05:48 +0000 Received: from ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net ([68.230.160.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:05:47 +0000 Received: from jvk-list by ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:05:47 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Joe Kraft Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:07:09 -0500 Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 Sender: news Subject: Re: kde/kdm + nsswitch + ldap = nologon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jvk-list@thekrafts.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 16:05:52 -0000 I guess it's probably worth mentioning that I'm working with KDE 3.5.10 right now. Is this something likely solved in KDE 4.2 so I've hit my reason to upgrade? Joe. Joe Kraft wrote: > I'm trying to implement SSO using Samba-3.2.4 with an LDAP backend. The > intent is to use ldap directly for FBSD clients and Samba for MS Windows > clients. > > The LDAP server (openldap 2.4.11) is running on a FBSD 6.3 server and is > setup and seems to be working fine, I can log in locally or through SSH > using the ldap accounts. > > I'm working on the first client which is a FBSD 7.1 machine. I can use > ldap to login on this machine, but I'm having issues with logging in > using kdm. I can see all the users both from local files and from ldap, > but I can't log in using either. Even when kdm won't allow a login, I > can and get a normal login shell and login with local or > ldap accounts. The ldap lines are included in my /etc/pam.d/kde file. > > If I remove ldap from the nsswitch.conf file it will start working with > local logins on kdm again. > > I ran into a bug report from last summer that appears to still be open > with exactly the same issue > (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124321). > > Does anyone know a workaround or have a patch for the issue? I can > provide config files and such if anyone thinks it might help. > > Thanks, > Joe. 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That was a major php5 upgrade and I think it might >> have to do something with it. >> > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > I'll add a "me too" to that. After portupgrading to php5 (and all the -r extentions), yesterday, every site I had that used php5 broke. (I'm using apache 2.0.63). After commenting out scads of extentions and juggling the order in extension.ini, I gave up, pkg_deleted everything php5 or php5-* and rebuilt it all from scratch. That and a restart of apache restored all of my sites. Most of my sites were squirrelmail. serendipity and moodle based, but they are all back, now. I haven't re-enabled eaccelerator on my Moodle, sites, yet, because I know that needs to be rebuilt anytime php's version is bumped at all. I know that one of the conflicts in portupgrading was that the version of tidy that docproj uses and the php5 version of tidy won't play nice, together, but I suspect there is more to it than that. I've been installing and upgrading php* for years and this was the most trouble I've ever had with an upgrade. All of the systems are 7.1 -STABLE builds, 3 are i386 and 2 are AMD64; they've all been built from sources within the past week. I didn't see any caveats in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this upgrade. 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Copy the URL into your browser for a free video From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 17:57:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D801C1065672 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.248]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 944B98FC27 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:57:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b38so474336ana.13 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:57:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=peLEwprEhMoPvVouRwnB+DZU0/eBxKuq0aeckZptQEs=; b=rIorT3rVRdI1LO2bffu/xOfzpm1C5Nb90mNIEbguH0KgiqKoH/Vn/nJ8oFr1/h0+gI 8/1dzK6GXlt1Rz5KW6vuApDkwi1xN42OSUwpVcNkUEdXATsJJFgJZF9IlM0juOzrF9Ss cBcqWwYvAjrc5l2CLrbobQfF++BbnoysWZT0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=oa2u6C5Cw1ZjdfV0nBD+NYM6dWzOf8NUJFeGmUOPQKYVBXB12bTsK0eYNvBzfb7zQF gxHzlYoCPARgDSGO6uW93imnzcP/HIDCuA18ZgzvREtjgbStemNxdgqV8Tfbv1nhM0Ro 4wcyvdqaVJg0w7ji4JtunDQZBV1IGMppUjoqg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.10.140 with SMTP id p12mr1054231ibp.12.1236448657511; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:57:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:57:37 -0700 Message-ID: From: Tim Judd To: Joe Kraft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kde/kdm + nsswitch + ldap = nologon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:57:39 -0000 On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Joe Kraft wrote: > I'm trying to implement SSO using Samba-3.2.4 with an LDAP backend. The > intent is to use ldap directly for FBSD clients and Samba for MS Windows > clients. > > The LDAP server (openldap 2.4.11) is running on a FBSD 6.3 server and is > setup and seems to be working fine, I can log in locally or through SSH > using the ldap accounts. > > I'm working on the first client which is a FBSD 7.1 machine. I can use > ldap to login on this machine, but I'm having issues with logging in using > kdm. I can see all the users both from local files and from ldap, but I > can't log in using either. Even when kdm won't allow a login, I can > and get a normal login shell and login with local or ldap > accounts. The ldap lines are included in my /etc/pam.d/kde file. > > If I remove ldap from the nsswitch.conf file it will start working with > local logins on kdm again. > > I ran into a bug report from last summer that appears to still be open with > exactly the same issue (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124321 > ). > > Does anyone know a workaround or have a patch for the issue? I can provide > config files and such if anyone thinks it might help. > > Thanks, > Joe. > True SSO is accomplished by Kerberos. Your LDAP implementation is re-authenticating/re-authorizing on every service. I'm by NO means an expert with pam -- it confuses me, but there are some basic concepts that I think there might be missing in your setup. First question I've got is shouldn't you need to create the rules for kdm in a file called 'kdm' in pam? Second is that some options/arguments that pam can use such as USE_FIRST_PASS would probably help you here. Third is whether the sufficient/required column in the pam file is there. Now we have to deal weather kdm uses pam or nsswitch. And if it uses nsswitch, then we have to go through all that troubleshooting all over again. Or maybe it doesn't even have any concept to use alternate auth mechanisms other than just the local files... I'm only providing an insight to something your eyes may have overlooked. I hope this triggers something to get it working. 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Und dann bin ich baden gegangen – – – und habe stundenlang im Grase gelegen; und während die weißen Wolken durch den Himmel segelten und der Fluß geruhig durch Schilfduft und Ried und schwatzendes Vogelvolk hinströmte, habe ich das Ding an sich, den Intellekt und den Willen verlacht und mir ein Ich-weiß-nicht-was? gewünscht. Gegen Abend entstiegen Schwärme von Eintagsfliegen dem Fluß, an den Gräsern, Halmen und Pfosten kletterten sie hoch und warfen aus der Hülle sich in die Luft zum kurzen Hochzeitsleben. Die Luft war weiß über den Wassern von den auf und nieder tanzenden Massen – und die sinkende Sonne in dem Höhenrauch, den der Nordwind gebracht hatte, rot wie ein Rubin: das hätte mich fast bezwungen, daß ich schon begann, die stundenkurze Existenz der Imago zu beklagen und daran sentimentale Folgerungen zu knüpfen – aber da hörte ich den Enzian läuten und ich lachte: Das Tier freut sich jahrelang seines Räuberlebens, und dieser Liebesflug ist sein taumelnder Höhepunkt. Es lebe das Leben und seine ewige Brücke: Venus genetrix! Vor acht Tagen hätte ich ihr geflucht und geklagt: Was ist das Leben? So ist das Leben: es fließt dahin wie Wellenschaum, kommt u From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 7 23:09:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2950D1065670 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:09:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A58AC8FC14 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:09:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Lg5di-0008PW-F0 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:09:06 +0000 Received: from ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net ([68.230.160.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:09:06 +0000 Received: from jvk-list by ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:09:06 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Joe Kraft Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 18:10:32 -0500 Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-160-176.mc.at.cox.net User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 Sender: news Subject: Re: kde/kdm + nsswitch + ldap = nologon X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jvk-list@thekrafts.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 23:09:11 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Joe Kraft wrote: > >> I'm trying to implement SSO using Samba-3.2.4 with an LDAP backend. The >> intent is to use ldap directly for FBSD clients and Samba for MS Windows >> clients. >> >> The LDAP server (openldap 2.4.11) is running on a FBSD 6.3 server and is >> setup and seems to be working fine, I can log in locally or through SSH >> using the ldap accounts. >> >> I'm working on the first client which is a FBSD 7.1 machine. I can use >> ldap to login on this machine, but I'm having issues with logging in >> using >> kdm. I can see all the users both from local files and from ldap, but I >> can't log in using either. Even when kdm won't allow a login, I can >> and get a normal login shell and login with local or ldap >> accounts. The ldap lines are included in my /etc/pam.d/kde file. >> >> If I remove ldap from the nsswitch.conf file it will start working with >> local logins on kdm again. >> >> I ran into a bug report from last summer that appears to still be open >> with exactly the same issue >> (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=124321 ). >> >> Does anyone know a workaround or have a patch for the issue? I can >> provide config files and such if anyone thinks it might help. >> >> Thanks, >> Joe. >> > > > True SSO is accomplished by Kerberos. Your LDAP implementation is > re-authenticating/re-authorizing on every service. > > I'm by NO means an expert with pam -- it confuses me, but there are some > basic concepts that I think there might be missing in your setup. > > First question I've got is shouldn't you need to create the rules for kdm > in a file called 'kdm' in pam? > > Second is that some options/arguments that pam can use such as > USE_FIRST_PASS would probably help you here. > > Third is whether the sufficient/required column in the pam file is there. > > Now we have to deal weather kdm uses pam or nsswitch. And if it uses > nsswitch, then we have to go through all that troubleshooting all over > again. Or maybe it doesn't even have any concept to use alternate auth > mechanisms other than just the local files... > > > > I'm only providing an insight to something your eyes may have overlooked. > > I hope this triggers something to get it working. G'luck Thanks for the thoughts, I had Kerberos set up once when I was going the other way...with all clients working through an AD domain. I'm trying to go the other way now and get everything working through a Samba Domain. I might look into it again in the future once I get the basics working. I thought maybe I had it when you mentioned creating rules for kdm instead of kde in pam. Unfortunately it didn't work. kdm seems to use nsswitch to get the names, because if I use the line "passwd: files ldap" in nsswitch.conf kdm shows me all the ldap users as well as the local users with their icons down the left side of the login window. I just can't use them to login, no matter what I do it tells me my password is invalid. I can't even get it to login with a local account from 'files'. What I can do is drop to one of the other ttys and use an accounts with the same password that failed in kdm to login. I'm using the same pam file for login as I am for kde (and now kdm). All I have to do is change the line to "passwd: files" and I can login again with the local accounts through kdm again. Certainly doesn't make sense to me right now... Joe.